Podcasts about Peleus

⚠️ Content-Warnung: Diese Folge enthält explizite Darstellungen von Gewalt, darunter auch Morde an Kindern. Die Szenen sind besonders blutig und könnten belastend sein. Folgenbeschreibung: Blut, Blut, und nochmal Blut... Medea und Jason locken Absyrtos, Medeas Halbbruder in eine Falle und ermorden ihn hinterhältig. Die "Helden" sind wohl kaum heldenhaft und Zeus lässt ihnen diesen Frevel nicht durchgehen. Mit: Medea, Jason, Absyrtos, Aietes, Chalkiope, Phrixos, Peleus, Hera, Hephaistos, Iris, Thetis, Kirke / Zirze, Ares, Zeus, Helios, Eros, Erinnyen, Naiaden, Phaeton, Heliaden, Aiolos, Argonauten, Kolcher. Orte: Aiaia, Insel der Artemis, Kolchis, Eridanos, Meer des Kronos in der nördlichen Adria, Okeanos, Iolkos, Ausonisches Meer. Sonstiges: Goldenes Vlies, Apotropäischer Ritus, Maschialismus, Erinnyen, Zauber, Blutrituale. Das Who-is-Who der Argonautenfahrt: https://steadyhq.com/de/chaoskinder/posts/30efa2ca-0f59-4d28-a54f-6ca692f847f6 "Was bisher geschah": https://steadyhq.com/de/chaoskinder/posts/4add90a4-f11f-424f-abe8-4287530226d4 STEADY https://steadyhq.com/de/chaoskinder/about WERBEFREIER FEED https://open.spotify.com/show/5yF7oCMeJ9VuXNOKGI91ZS?si=6c90144399804043 PAYPAL https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=VB2QKC88H9NYJ LITERATUR https://steadyhq.com/de/chaoskinder/posts/b59d1093-cdff-4158-8dca-bc0ac992d47c MUSIK https://youtu.be/zfnRMIFHHrE WEBSITE www.chaoskinderpodcast.wordpress.com MAIL chaoskinderkontakt@gmail.com INSTA https://www.instagram.com/chaos.kinder/ FRANZÖSISCH "Le Chaos et ses enfants" https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lechaosetsesenfants

Content warning: Peleus is a terrible person, so expect a mild reference to some implied nastiness. Peleus is one of those people who gets things he doesn't deserve. Despite all that terrible behaviour we outlined in episode 55, he gets to marry a goddess! However, it's at the wedding that the seeds of something dreadful will be sown... Sources for this episode: Frazer, J. G. (1921), Apollodorus: The Library (Volume II). London: William Heinemann. Hyginus (1872), Fabulae. Edited by M. Schmidt. Jenae: Hermann Dufft. Ovid (1955), Metamorphoses. Translated by M. M. Innes. London: Penguin Books. Smith; W. (ed.) (1867), Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology. In Three Volumes (Vol. 1-3.). Boston: Little, Brown, And Company. Author unknown, Wikipedia (date unknown), Judgement of Paris (online) (Accessed 01/12/2024). Author unknown, Wikipedia (date unknown), Thetis (online) (Accessed 01/12/2024).

Endlich sind die Argonauten im Schwarzen Meer angekommen, aber die Reise birgt trotz günstiger Winde auch weiterhin Gefahren. Zwei Argonauten werden sterben, andere werden neu dazukommen. Sie treffen auf unbekannte Völker und eigenartige Vögel mit Eisenfedern als Schusswaffen... Es sind die Stymphalischen Vögel, die Herakles einst vom Stymphalos-See verscheucht hat. Jetzt müssen die Argonauten es ihm nachtun und treffen kurz darauf auf Jasons Cousins 2. Grades: die Söhne des Phrixos, die in ihnen noch nützlich sein werden. Figuren: Jason, Tiphys, Athene, Pelias, Aietes, Apollon, Orpheus, Phineus, Pollux, Lykos, Daskylos, Idmon, Peleus, Idas, Ankaios, Erginos, Nauplios, Mopsos, Sthenelos, Herakles, Persephone, Sinope, Amphidamas, Oileus, Klytios, Erybotes, Chalkiope, Phrixos, Helle. Orte: Schwarzes Meer, Kolchis, Aia, Iolkos, Dodona, Thermodon, Acheron, Sesamon, Assyrien, Amazonenland, Chalyberland, Tibarenisches Land, Mossynoikerland. Sonstige: Argo (Schiff), goldenes Vlies, Symplegaden, stymphalische Vögel, Lyra, Unterwelt, Gürtel der Amazonenkönigin, Platanen, Eiche von Dodona. STEADY https://steadyhq.com/de/chaoskinder/about WERBEFREIER FEED https://open.spotify.com/show/5yF7oCMeJ9VuXNOKGI91ZS?si=6c90144399804043 PAYPAL https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=VB2QKC88H9NYJ LITERATUR https://chaoskinderpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/quellen-und-literatur-auswahl/ MUSIK https://youtu.be/zfnRMIFHHrE WEBSITE www.chaoskinderpodcast.wordpress.com MAIL chaoskinderkontakt@gmail.com INSTA https://www.instagram.com/chaos.kinder/ FRANZÖSISCH "Le Chaos et ses enfants" https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lechaosetsesenfants

This episode originally aired March 22, 2022. Atalanta: the heroine of ancient Greece. Or, was it heroines? There are two Atalantas, sometimes conflated into one, other times separate. One fought the Calydonian boar, wrestled Peleus, and generally kicked ass. The other lost a foot race, distracted by a golden apple. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Theoi.com entry on Atalanta, including Aelian, Apollodorus, Apollonios, and others; Early Greek Myths by Timothy Gantz. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Es geht weiter mit der Fahrt der Argonauten auf der Suche nach dem goldenen Vlies und in dieser Folge kommt es zu einigen Missverständnissen. Jason und seine Mannschaft werden von Kyzikos und den Dolionen gastfreundlich empfangen, doch einige sechsarmige Riesen, die “Erdgeborenen” Gegeneis werden von Hera aufgepeitscht und greifen an. Dann töten die Argonauten versehentlich die Falschen, vergessen kurz darauf auch noch Herakles und müssen ohne ihn weiterfahren. Triggerwarnung: Diese Episode behandelt Themen wie Krieg und Suizid. Mit: Argo, Argonauten, Jason, Pelias, Aietes, Herakles, Dolionen, Kyzikos, Kleite, Gegeneis, Erdgeborene, Poseidon, Hera, Zeus, Hylas, Polyphemos, Tiphys, Akastos, Mopsos, Pelasger, Rhea, Kalais, Zetes, Boreas, Glaukos, Orpheus, Cheiron, Achilles, Peleus, Thetis, Johann Heinrich Voß. Orte: Iolkos, Lemnos, Kolchis, Hellespont, Ägäis, Propontis, Marmarameer, Bärenberg, Phrygien. STEADY https://steadyhq.com/de/chaoskinder/about WERBEFREIER FEED https://open.spotify.com/show/5yF7oCMeJ9VuXNOKGI91ZS?si=6c90144399804043 PAYPAL https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=VB2QKC88H9NYJ LITERATUR https://chaoskinderpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/quellen-und-literatur-auswahl/ MUSIK https://youtu.be/zfnRMIFHHrE WEBSITE www.chaoskinderpodcast.wordpress.com MAIL chaoskinderkontakt@gmail.com INSTA https://www.instagram.com/chaos.kinder/ FRANZÖSISCH "Le Chaos et ses enfants" https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lechaosetsesenfants

A heroine in Greek mythology! Her story involves the stories of many other heroes, including Peleus, the fallout from Oedipus and Jason and the Argo. We also see that if you want to get ahead in life, all you need is some divine golden fruit and you'd be... well... golden. Sources for this episode: Aelianus, C. (1665), Various History. Translated by T. Stanley. London: Printed for Thomas Dring. Bernstein, N. W. (2023), The Complete Works of Claudian: Translated with an Introduction and Notes. Oxon and New York: Routledge. Florio, P. I. (1983), Birth of a Lion x Leopard Hybrid in Italy. International Zoo News 30/2(178): 4-6. Frazer, J. G. (1921), Apollodorus: The Library (Volume I). London: William Heinemann. Graves, R. (1981), Greek Myths: Illustrated Edition. London: Cassell Ltd. Tzetzes, J. (last edited 2018), Chiliades or Book of Histories. Translated by A. Untila, G. Berkowitz, K. Ramiotis and V. Dogani.

Na sequência da abertura dos Jogos Olímpicos em Paris tivemos a oportunidade de assistir um verdadeiro festival de fanatismo, de intolerância confusa e também de ignorância difusa. Um dos quadros apresentados no desfile inaugural provocou uma enxurrada furiosa de críticas, alegando que ele ofendia sentimentos cristãos ao parodiar o quadro “A Última Ceia”, de Leonardo da Vinci. Flávio Aguiar, analista políticoAs críticas vieram de várias fontes, de vários ângulos, e pelo menos de dois continentes: Europa e América, todas preocupadas em proteger a fé religiosa contra a suposta impiedade sacrílega dos organizadores e atores do festim olímpico.Protagonizaram as falas bispos e arcebispos conservadores da Igreja Católica, políticos da extrema direita francesa, italiana e também da brasileira e até o candidato à presidência dos Estados Unidos, Donald Trump, numa entrevista à Fox News.Um detalhe curioso: na entrevista, Trump não menciona o quadro olímpico. Quem o faz é a jornalista que formula as perguntas. Ele se limita a comentar: “um desastre”, “uma desgraça”, etc. Este detalhe sugere que a jornalista está ansiosa por induzir o comentário, o que, de certo modo, já desqualifica a entrevistadora, a entrevista e a opinião do entrevistado.Os críticos sugeriam que, ao parodiar o famoso quadro, o desfile insultava o evento bíblico que ele representa, a narrativa da última ceia de Jesus Cristo com os apóstolos, logo antes da crucificação. No entanto, os críticos demonstraram que não souberam “ler” nem a pintura de Da Vinci, nem o quadro cênico do desfile.Há diferenças substantivas entre eles. Para começo de conversa, no quadro de Da Vinci há treze figurantes, incluindo o Cristo. No quadro olímpico há um número bem maior de personagens, pelo menos 17 somente no primeiro plano. Neste, se no centro da mesa há um personagem com uma espécie de halo prateado em torno da sua cabeça, quem preside de fato a cena, no primeiríssimo plano, é uma representação de deus do vinho - o Dionísio grego ou o Baco dos romanos - cujo corpo está coberto por uma cor azul, coisa completamente estranha ao quadro de Da Vinci.Neste quadro quem preside a cena é o próprio Cristo, cujo corpo, de braços abertos e caídos, representa um triângulo - imagem alegórica da Santíssima Trindade, Pai, Filho e Espírito Santo.Também deve-se levar em conta que Da Vinci focaliza um momento específico da Última Ceia, aquele em que Jesus anuncia que um dos apóstolos o trairá. É, portanto, um momento extraordinariamente dramático do evento.Nada disto transparece na representação parisiense. Ela não representa uma ceia, mas um banquete prazeroso e alegre. Não há traição nela. Pelo contrário, há festa e congraçamento.Há um único elemento comum entre ambas as manifestações artísticas: o vinho. Mas em Da Vinci, na sequência do momento focalizado, ele representará o sangue do próprio Cristo. No desfile, ele não é consagrado nem santificado, mas é apresentado pelo deus Dionísio como um símbolo do prazer inebriante.Em resumo, se há uma referência artística por trás do desfile, não se trata da Última Ceia, do quadro “O Festim dos Deuses”, do pintor holandês Jan van Bijlert, do século XVII, hoje no Museu Magnin, em Dijon, na França. Ele representa o banquete do casamento da ninfa ou nereida Tétis com o rei Peleus, pais do guerreiro Aquiles, do poema “A Ilíada”, de Homero. O banquete é presidido pelo deus Apolo, ou Hélios, com um halo luminoso ao redor da cabeça, e tem, no primeiro plano, o deus Dionísio, ou Baco, além de um sátiro dançarino.Convenhamos: este quadro tem mais a ver com a tradição da antiguidade grega, fundadora dos jogos olímpicos clássicos que inspiraram os modernos, do que o quadro de Da Vinci. Porém, o fanatismo religioso dos críticos da extrema direita fundamenta também sua ignorância preconceituosa, comprovando que eles nada entendem de história da arte, nem de jogos olímpicos, muito menos de tradição bíblica.Por último, mas não menos importante, deve-se ressaltar que a fúria dos críticos foi alimentada pelo fato dos atores da representação, na abertura dos jogos, serem personalidades da cena LGBTQIA+ francesa, o que acrescenta ao seu bolo indigesto o fermento do preconceito homofóbico e sexista.

Illiad+ Greek Script (First 5 Lines): Μῆνιν ἄειδε θεὰ Πηληϊάδεω Ἀχιλῆος, μῆνιν ἄσπετον, ἥτις Ἀχαιοὺς ἔθηκεν ἄλγεα πολλά, πολλὰς δ᾽ ἀφθίτους ψυχὰς Ἄϊδι προΐαψε, ἥρωας αὐτοὺς, κύνες δέ τε πάντας ἔδαιχθεν ὀρνέοισί τε εἰπεσί πτερινοῖς ἀλλὰ Διὸς ἤθελε μήνις. English Translation: Sing, goddess, of the wrath of Achilles son of Peleus, that destructive wrath which brought countless woes upon the Achaians, sent many valiant souls prematurely to Hades, and left the heroes themselves prey for dogs and birds of every kind, but so it was willed by Zeus. Mandarin Translation (Pinyin with Tone Numbers): 唱 (chàng) 女神 (nǚshén) 啊 (a), 珀琉斯 (Bòliú sī) 之子 (zhī zi) 阿喀琉斯 (Ākǎiliúsī) 的 (de) 愤怒 (fènnù), 那 (nà) 毁灭性 (huǐmièxìng) 的 (de) 愤怒 (fènnù), 它 (tā) 给 (gěi) 阿开奥斯人 (Ākāi'àosīrén) 带来了 (dàilái le) 无数 (wúshù) 灾难 (zāinàn), 将 (jiāng) 许多 (xǔduō) 勇敢 (yǒnggǎn) 的 (de) 灵魂 (línghún) 过早 (guòzǎo) 送到了 (sòng dào le) 哈地斯 (Hādìsī), 让 ( ràng) 英雄们 (yīngxióngmen) 自己 (zìjí) 成为 (chéng wéi) 野狗 (yěgǒu) 和 (hé) 各式 (gèshì) 各样 (gèyàng) 的 (de) 鸟类 (niǎolèi) 的 (de) 猎物 (lièwù), 但这 (dàn shì) 是 (shì) 宙斯 (Zhōusī) 的 (de) 意愿 (yìyuàn). Best Hashtags: #Iliad #AncientGreek #GreekMythology #Achilles #Homer #Translation #Mandarin #Tones #Pronunciation #LearningGreek Title Ideas: Unveiling the Iliad: A Deep Dive into the First Lines (with Greek Script, English Translation, and Mandarin Practice) The Wrath of Achilles: Exploring the Iliad's Beginning in Ancient Greek, English, and Mandarin Learning Ancient Greek with the Iliad: Pronunciation Practice through Mandarin Translation Tips for Pronunciation Practice: Use online resources or language learning apps to hear native speakers pronounce the Greek words. Pay attention to the vowel sounds (alpha, epsilon, eta, etc.) and the placement of stress accents (acute, grave, circumflex). Mandarin tones are crucial for meaning. Practice saying the pinyin with the correct tone number (1 for high flat, 2 for rising, 3 for falling-rising, 4 for falling). Shadow native speakers or recordings to refine your pronunciation. I hope this comprehensive response aids you in your exploration of the Iliad and your Greek language learning journey! https://www.blogtalkradio.com/kennelkelp/2024/07/08/holistic-actions-101-with-dr-jeff-feinman

Dcn. Harrison Garlick and Adam Minihan discuss the FINAL book of the Iliad: Book 24 - Achilles and Priam. Check out our 65-page guide to the Iliad!I have put to my lips the hands of the man who killed my son. Priam to Achilles (24.591) 103. What happens in book twenty-four?The funeral games have ended, and Achilles, who still mourns for Patroclus, drags Hector's body behind his chariot around Patroclus' tomb (24.19). Twelve days after the death of Hector, Apollo pleads with the gods to save the body of the Trojan prince (24.39). In response, Zeus declares that “Achilles must receive a ransom from King Priam, Achilles must give Hector's body back” (24.94). Zeus tells Thetis his plan, and Thetis informs her son (24.127). Zeus sends Iris to Troy to tell King Priam, who she finds smeared in dung and mourning his son, that the Father of gods and men commands him to ransom his son from Achilles (24.204). Priam, despite the protests of his wife (24.238), obeys the goddess and prepares to leave (24.259). Priam leaves Troy on his chariot alongside a wagon of treasure (24.382). On the plains of Troy, Priam is met by Hermes, under the guise of a Myrmidon, who guides him into the Achaean camp (24.526). Hermes reveals himself to Priam and tells the king of Troy to go into Achilles' tent and hug his knees (24.546).Priam does as he is told, and, hugging the knees of Achilles, kisses “his hands, those terrible man-killing hands that slaughtered Priam's many sons in battle” (24.562). Priam exhorts Achilles to remember his own father, Peleus, and Achilles thinks of his father and weeps with Priam (24.595). Priam asks for the body of Hector (24.650), and though Achilles warns Priam not to tempt his rage (24.667), Achilles has the body of Hector washed and carries it to the wagon himself (24.691). Achilles promises King Priam that the Achaeans will wait twelve days before restarting the war to allow Troy to bury Prince Hector (24.787). Priam sleeps on the porch outside the lodge of Achilles, and Hermes wakes him up to send him home before Agamemnon finds him (24.808). Priam returns home to Troy, and Troy is “plunged… into uncontrollable grief” (24.831). For nine days, the Trojans “hauled in boundless stores of timber” for the funeral pyre of Hector (24.921). On the tenth day, they set the body of Hector “aloft the pyre's crest, [and] flung a torch and set it all aflame” (24.924). The next day, the Trojans bury Hector's bones in a golden chest and end the rites with a “splendid funeral feast” (24.942). And thus, Homer ends the Iliad with the burial of “Hector breaker of horses” (24.944). 104. What is the backstory of why Hera and Athena hate Troy?In the final book of the Iliad, Homer makes reference to the narratives that led to the Trojan war. Hera states that she “brought up” Thetis and gave her in marriage to a mortal, King Peleus (24.72). The story goes that Zeus loved Thetis, but the Titan Prometheus told him that Thetis was destined to bear a son greater than his father.[1] As such, Zeus gave Thetis to Peleus, a mortal, so the son would also be mortal.[2] Homer's reference of Hera's role in the Iliad implies she had some part in this scheme as well. Peleus had to wrestle the immortal sea nymph, Thetis, as she changed shapes to win her heart.[3] He was successful, and the gods...

Deacon Harrison Garlick and Adam Minihan sit down to talk about Book 11 of the Iliad, Agamemnon's Day of Glory.In this episode we will discuss:What happens in Book 11?What should be noted about Patroclus?What should be noted about Peleus' command to Patroclus?What else should be observed in book 11?Want our whole guide to The Iliad? Download it for free.Achilles will listen to you—for his own good. So the old man told you. You've forgotten. - Nestor to Patroclus (11.943)55. What happens in book eleven?Dawn has finally arisen from her bed (11.01). To welcome the new day, Zeus sends the goddess Strife to the Achaean camp (11.03), and the goddess releases a “high-pitched cry, great and terrible” that drives the Achaeans “mad for war and struggle” (11.14). Agamemnon rallies the Achaeans and Hector the Trojans, as Zeus rains blood from the sky (11.62) and Strife continues her “wild groans” (11.84). Following Diomedes advice to fight on the front lines (9.865), Agamemnon leads the Argives on a bloody warpath against the Trojans (11.107). Agamemnon slaughters his enemies—including one Trojan who Agamemnon cuts off his head and arms and, as Homer says, sends him “rolling through the carnage like a log” (11.170). Zeus sends Iris to tell Hector to stay off the front lines and command his men from the back until Agamemnon is wounded—then Zeus will bless Hector to lead a counteroffensive all the way back to the Achaean ships (11.217). After Agamemnon is wounded and retreats (11.310), Hector pushes the Achaeans all the way back to their rampart (11.330). One by one the Achaean warlords—Diomedes (11.443), Odysseus (11.515), and Machaon the healer (11.598)—are all injured and retreat. Great Ajax desires to hold his ground but is forced to retreat by Zeus (11.638). Still by his ship, Achilles watches the onslaught and tells Patroclus he thinks the Achaeans are ready to “grovel at his knees” (11.719). Achilles sends Patroclus to Nestor for advice (11.722), and Nestor tells Patroclus that Achilles should at least let Patroclus lead the Myrmidons into battle wearing Achilles' armor (11.951). Patroclus leaves to return to Achilles but stops to assist an Achaean suffering from an arrow wound (11.1001). The book ends with Patroclus caring for his fellow solider, and the foretold “doom of Zeus” about the body of Patroclus inches closer (8.551).56. What else should be noted about Patroclus?Of important note is how Patroclus speaks of Achilles to Nestor (11.773). He states that Achilles is a “great and terrible man” and would “leap to accuse a friend without fault” (11.774). It is not the language one would expect from Patroclus, the “great friend” of Achilles (Question 49). We are told that Nestor was part of the group of Achaeans who went to the house of Peleus seeking recruits for the Trojan war (11.916). Peleus tells his son, Achilles, to “always be the best, my boy, the bravest, and hold your head up high above the others,” which is the exact same advice given the Glacus by his father except it lacks the exhortation to “never disgrace the generation of your fathers” (6.247). Whether Homer is inviting a comparison here is a matter of some discussion. We should note well Peleus' command to Patroclus to counsel Achilles, and that Achilles will listen to him (11.940). Amongst all the rage of Achilles, we have little evidence of Patroclus playing the role of counselor or attempting to diffuse the situation. Nestor critiques Patroclus that he has forgotten his role as counselor to Achilles (11.943). One...

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Deacon Harrison Garlick and Adam Minihan sit down to talk about the embassy to Achilles in Book 9.In this episode we will discuss:What happens in book nine?Who is Phoenix?What is the relationship between Achilles and Patroclus?What effect does the embassy have on Achilles?What else should be noted in the embassy to Achilles?Want our whole guide to The Iliad? Download it for free.Book NineThe Embassy to AchillesBut now at last, stop, Achilles—let your heart-devouring anger go!Odysseus (9.307)47. What happens in book nine?Night has fallen. As the Trojans set their watch, the Achaeans are distraught and panicked (9.02). King Agamemnon despairs and tells his men to sail home (9.31). After a long silence, Diomedes tells Agamemnon to “sail away” (9.49), but Diomedes and company will stay and fight until the “fixed doom of Troy” occurs (9.56). Nestor, the old Achaean war chief, exhorts Agamemnon to have the night sentries take their posts (9.76) and to throw a feast of “grand hospitality” for his senior chieftains (9.80). Agamemnon obeys and, at the feast, Nestor appeals to Agamemnon to make peace with Achilles (9.122). Agamemnon again follows Nestor's lead. He sends Odysseus, Ajax, and Phoenix (9.201) with the promise that Agamemnon will return Briseis to Achilles along with hordes of treasure and more treasure to come when Troy falls (9.146).The embassy finds Achilles playing the lyre by his ships (9.222). Achilles greets them warmly and each member of delegation attempts to convince Achilles to return to the war and save the Argives. But Achilles still harbors an undying rage against Agamemnon, stating: “I hate that man like the very Gates of Death” (9.379). Agamemnon has wounded the honor of Achilles and no gifts can undo that fact (9.470). Achilles even tells Odysseus that Agamemnon can keep and enjoy Briseis (9.407). The heart of Achilles “still heaves with rage” (9.789), and he will not even think of “arming for bloody war again” until Hector has slaughtered the Argives all the way to his own ship (9.795). The embassy reports back to Agamemnon and, as they were all “struck dumb,” Diomedes rallies the chieftains and tells Agamemnon to fight on the front lines tomorrow (9.865). The Achaeans, who are stirred by the speech, make their offerings to Zeus and go to sleep awaiting the dawn (9.866).48. Who is Phoenix? Phoenix, an Achaean, was charged by Peleus, Achilles' father, to train Achilles in war and rhetoric (9.533). Regarding his own background, Phoenix tells the story of sleeping with his father's concubine, at his mother's request, and his father finding out (9.549). Phoenix runs away from home, and Peleus welcomes him into his home as a son (9.583). One may observe the similarity that Phoenix's past and Achilles' present both hinge on a concubine or slave-girl. Phoenix claims to Achilles: “I made you what you are—strong as the gods… I loved you from the heart” (9.587). He expresses his love for Achilles, as a man who knew he'd never have his own son (9.595). In fact, he leverages this into an argument stating: “I made you my son, I tried, so someday you might fight disaster off my back” (9.600). He then gives an explanation of the Prayers of Zeus, personified, who “heal the wounds of mankind” (6.117). The explicit appeal to family and then to the gods (to save his people) invites another comparison between Achilles and Hector—whose piety toward family, polis, and the gods was on display in book six. Phoenix's appeal to the ancient story of Meleager is...

Deacon Harrison Garlick and Adam Minihan jump into The Iliad Book 1.Commentary on the textBook OneThe Rage of Achilles[1]Rage—Goddess, sing of Peleus' son Achilles. Iliad (1.1) 6. What happens in the first half of book one?The rage of Achilles is both the theme of book one and of the Iliad as a whole. Achilles is the son of Peleus, King of Phthia, a legendary city-state in ancient Greece. Agamemnon, the king of Mycenae and leader of the federation of ancient Greek tribes that have come to war with Troy, holds as his slave and concubine a girl named Chryseis—a spoil of war (1.30). Her father, a priest of Apollo named Chryses, offers Agamemnon a “priceless ransom” (1.14) for his daughter. Despite the Achaeans (another name for the ancient Greeks), petitioning Agamemnon to accept the offer, he does not; thus, Apollo, moved by his priest's prayer (1.42), strikes the Achaean army with a plague, i.e., his “arrows” (1.56, 69, 78, et al.), until Agamemnon finally agrees to return the daughter of Apollo's priest and offer to the god a fitting sacrifice (1.135). However, Agamemnon finds it unfair that he, as high king, should have his “prize” taken from him while the lesser kings retain their women, their “prizes,” from war (1.158). He then demands that the concubine of Achilles, a girl named Briseis, be handed over to him (1.141, 203-221). The contention between Agamemnon and Achilles provides the catalyst for the events at the beginning of the Iliad that will shape the entire narrative.7. Why does Homer open in the middle of the narrative?Homer begins the Iliad in what is called in media res, which is Latin for “in the midst of things” or “in the middle of things.” The Achaeans have already been on the beaches of Troy for nine years when Homer opens the Iliad (1.157). Questioning Homer's rationale in opening his epic in such a fashion can provide greater insight into the purpose of the Iliad. In short, the opening may be in the middle of the Trojan War, but it is at the beginning of the narrative Homer wants to tell. It is notable Homer does not invoke the Muses to assist him in telling of the fall of Troy; rather, he invokes them to assist with the story of the rage of Achilles. The Iliad is the story of the tragedy that is Achilles.[2] The in media res opening, however, bears a distinct effect upon modern readers of the epic. As noted above (Question 2), Homer did not invent the story of the fall of Troy. As such, his ancient readers would have been already familiar with the characters and the general narrative. Homer, at times, does not mention key aspects of his narrative until quite late in the development of his story. For example, Homer does not explain why Hera and Athena have a “deathless hate” for Troy until almost the very end of the text (24.34). At other times, Homer will not mention a key aspect of the Trojan war at all. Lattimore refers to these ancillary stories as “marginal material.”[3] The existence of these ancillary stories to the Iliad are known only because later writers included them in their poems or plays. There is much debate, however, on whether Homer elected not to include these stories in his epic or such stories were a later...

There's a Big Bear in the sky!   To join the discussion, visit the blog at Triumvir Clio's School of Classical Civilization.  If there's no hyperlink showing up here, you can go to triumvirclio.school.blog to find a feed of recent episodes as well as discussion pages for every episode. Join me on Patreon at www.patreon.com/triumvirclio to get early access to ad-free episodes and bonus content.    References Apollodorus. The Library. Translated by Sir James George Frazer. Loeb Classical Library Volumes 121 & 122. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1921. Available online at https://www.theoi.com/Text/Apollodorus1.html and http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0022.    The Myths of Ursa Major, the Great Bear. Accessed November 23, 2023. Available at https://www.aavso.org/myths-uma --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bethany-banner/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bethany-banner/support

A confession, I don't like Greek mythology. AT ALL. I did however love this book both when I first read it 10 years ago and on re-reading for this podcast.Achilles, "the best of all the Greeks," son of the cruel sea goddess Thetis and the legendary king Peleus, is strong, swift, and beautiful, irresistible to all who meet him. Patroclus is an awkward young prince, exiled from his homeland after an act of shocking violence. Brought together by chance, they forge an inseparable bond, despite risking the gods' wrath. They are trained by the centaur Chiron in the arts of war and medicine, but when word comes that Helen of Sparta has been kidnapped, all the heroes of Greece are called upon to lay siege to Troy in her name. Seduced by the promise of a glorious destiny, Achilles joins their cause, and torn between love and fear for his friend, Patroclus follows. Little do they know that the cruel Fates will test them both as never before and demand a terrible sacrifice.Ellie Hothersall and I had such a brilliant conversation about expectations, life scripts, stubbornness, the need to say sorry (and mean it!) and why some stories never ever grow old.Follow Ellie on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/DundeePublicH

This episode contains themes of a sexual natureAchilles is one of the greatest heroes in Greek mythology. The son of Peleus, a Greek King, and Thetis, a divine sea nymph, Achilles was a demigod with extraordinary strength and courage. The perfect combination to make a great warrior, he is perhaps best known from Homer's epic poem the Iliad, which details his adventures in the final year of the Trojan War.He's also gone down in history for his passionate love for his companion, Patroclus. Sources and mythology differ as to the nature of their relationship, and in this episode, we ask the question: was it really erotic? What do the sources say? Does our definition of love differ from that of the Ancient Greeks? And, how did it inspire one of the greatest military generals in history: Alexander of Macedon?To help explore these themes, host Tristan Hughes is joined by returning guest Professor Alastair Blanshard from the University of Queensland.Voiceover: Lucy DavidsonScript Writer: Andrew HulseEditor: Aidan LonerganAssistant Producer: Annie ColoeSenior Producer: Elena GuthrieDiscover the past on History Hit with ad-free original podcasts and documentaries released weekly presented by world-renowned historians like Dan Snow, Suzannah Lipscomb, Lucy Worsley, Matt Lewis, Tristan Hughes and more. Get 50% off your first 3 months with code DANSNOW. Download the app or sign up here.PLEASE VOTE HERE for Dan Snow's History Hit in the 'Best Individual Episode - History' category for the 2023 Signal Awards. Every vote counts, thank you!We'd love to hear from you! You can email the podcast at ds.hh@historyhit.com.You can take part in our listener survey here.

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We continue with my series about gold in pre-history today with one of the earliest and most enduring of the golden myths: Jason and the Golden Fleece. This story, which took place about a generation before the Trojan War, starts out as a hero's quest, but develops into a story of betrayal and vengeance with, like many a Greek myth, a tragic ending. In Iolcos, Pelias usurped his brother Aeson, the rightful king, to take the throne. He then had all Aeson's descendents killed. People were ruthless in those days.Aeson's son Jason, however, survived the massacre, saved by a wheeze: when he was born, his mother had all her servants cry to fool Pelias into thinking he was still-born. She then smuggled Jason away to be reared by Chiron, “the wisest and justest of all the centaurs.” Chiron was the son of Cronos and would count among his high-achieving students Achilles, Odysseus, Hercules, Theseus and Perseus. Meanwhile, an oracle warned Aeson “to fear the man with one sandal”. No doubt feeling guilty about his ill-gotten kingship, he lived in dread of that prophecy.When Jason was fully grown, he set off to Iolcos to claim his throne. On his way, he chanced upon an old lady trying to cross a river and helped her across. In doing so he lost his sandal. Little did he know, that old lady was Hera, wife of Zeus, Queen of the Gods. She would become his ally.In Iolcos, Jason was announced as a man in one sandal. He came before King Pelias, revealed who he was and claimed the kingdom. Pelias agreed to cede the kingdom, but only on one condition: that Jason brought him the fleece of the golden ram. He had set Jason an impossible task, a task that would take him beyond the known world (which at this point was about as far as the Black Sea), to the barbarian kingdom of Colchis. But Jason agreed.The fleece, so the story went, was of a magical ram that had once belonged to Zeus. It hung from a tree in a sacred grove, guarded by bulls with hooves of brass and breath of fire, and a dragon that never slept, whose teeth became soldiers when planted in the ground. The fleece belonged to Aietes, King of Colchis, son of the sun god, Helios, no less. Another oracle had foretold that Aietes would lose his kingdom, if he lost his fleece. I love how legends and myths are born out of truths and here is a case in point. East of the Black Sea in what today is Georgia - in Colchis in other words - sheepskins were used to pan gold from rivers. The fleeces were stretched over a wooden frame and then submerged in rivers, where the tight curls of the sheep's coat would catch nuggets and specks of gold carried down in the rushing water from placer deposits upstream. The fleeces were then hung in trees to dry, after which the gold was combed out. If you have a wet fleece full of alluvial gold hanging to dry in a tree, you are going to make sure it is well guarded - by bulls and dragons, if necessary. It's quite easy to see how this practice had evolved into the myth of a golden fleece as the story spread east from the other side of the Black Sea. Three Impossible TasksJason had a ship, the Argo, built. He assembled a crew - the Argonauts - a band of heroes which included such luminaries as Hercules, the twins Castor and Pollux, Peleus (father of Achilles), Orpheus (the musician) and Atlanta (the virgin huntress who would never marry). They set off on what is seen by some as the first long-distance voyage ever undertaken, perhaps the first time a Greek had successfully navigated the hostile currents of the Bosphorus. En route, the Argonauts stopped on the Isle of Lemnos, inhabited by a band of women who had killed their husbands. There they fathered a new people with them, the Minyae. Sounds like a good holiday. They fought giants with six arms, they killed harpies, they navigated the clashing rocks of the Bosphorus and eventually arrived in Colchis. There King Aietes set Jason an impossible task - actually three - if he wanted to claim the fleece as his own. He had to harness the fire-breathing oxen and plough a field with them. He had to sow a field with dragon's teeth and fight the army of phantom soldiers that resulted. And, finally, he had to overcome the dragon.Needless to say, Jason was discouraged, but Hera, Jason's ally, leant on Aphrodite, goddess of love, to lend a hand. She sent her son, Eros, to shoot one of his arrows and it struck Aietes' daughter, Medea, who fell in love with Jason. Medea gave Jason an ointment to protect him from the oxen's fire. She showed him how to defeat the phantom soldiers with a rock that would confuse them into fighting each other. She gave him a potion to send the dragon to sleep, so that he could take the fleece.  With the fleece in hand, Jason and his Argonauts attempted their escape. To help them, Medea murdered her brother and threw pieces of his body into the sea. Grief-stricken, Aietes stopped to collect the pieces of body, allowing Jason, Medea and the Argonauts to get away.There were as many adventures on the way home. They passed the infamous Sirens, whose songs enticed sailors, only for their ships to wreck on the rocks. But Orpheus played his lyre and drowned their songs with music that was more beautiful. They could not pass Crete, for the rocks that the bronze man Talos threw at them, but again they were saved by Medea, who cast a spell on Talos and then killed him.Back at Iolcos, Jason's father, Aeson, was too old to participate in the celebrations, but Medea used her witchcraft to rejuvenate him.  Pelias' daughters asked her to do the same for the ageing Pelias. Medea advised them to chop him up and put him in a cauldron to boil, which they duly did. It was a trick, of course, and Pelias was no more. But Jason and Medea were exiled for the murder and they fled to city of Corinth. There Jason betrayed Medea by marrying the king's daughter. Medea confronted Jason, heartbroken, but Jason blamed Aphrodite for having made Medea fall in love with him. Medea would have her revenge, a revenge which has become the subject of many a drama since, not least at the National Rheatre.She gave Jason's newly betrothed a dress that stuck to her body and burned her to death. The king died with his daughter as he tried to save her. Then Medea killed her own two sons, born by Jason, and fled to Athens in a chariot of dragons sent by her grandfather, the sun-god Helios.Jason returned to Iolcus to claim his kingdom, but as a result of breaking his vow to love Medea forever, he lost the favour of Hera. He died lonely and unhappy, asleep on the rotting Argo.It's a buccaneering adventure story, full of the human psychological flaws that the Ancient Greeks seemed so cognizant of, with a typically Greek tragic end. The formula of hero, dark power and female helper has become the backbone of numerous plots since, not least in Hollywood, while the premise - a young man setting off in search of his fortune, made of gold - is the premise of every youngster setting off on his or her life's adventure.My show on gold at the Edinburgh Fringe this August will take place at Panmure House, the room in which  Adam Smith wrote Wealth of Nations. You can get tickets here.Interested in buying gold to protect yourself in these uncertain times? My recommended bullion dealer is The Pure Gold Company, whether you are taking delivery or storing online. Premiums are low, quality of service is high. They deliver to the UK, US, Canada and Europe, or you can store your gold with them. More here. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theflyingfrisby.com/subscribe

We continue with my series about gold in pre-history today with one of the earliest and most enduring of the golden myths: Jason and the Golden Fleece. This story, which took place about a generation before the Trojan War, starts out as a hero's quest, but develops into a story of betrayal and vengeance with, like many a Greek myth, a tragic ending. In Iolcos, Pelias usurped his brother Aeson, the rightful king, to take the throne. He then had all Aeson's descendents killed. People were ruthless in those days.Aeson's son Jason, however, survived the massacre, saved by a wheeze: when he was born, his mother had all her servants cry to fool Pelias into thinking he was still-born. She then smuggled Jason away to be reared by Chiron, “the wisest and justest of all the centaurs.” Chiron was the son of Cronos and would count among his high-achieving students Achilles, Odysseus, Hercules, Theseus and Perseus. Meanwhile, an oracle warned Aeson “to fear the man with one sandal”. No doubt feeling guilty about his ill-gotten kingship, he lived in dread of that prophecy.When Jason was fully grown, he set off to Iolcos to claim his throne. On his way, he chanced upon an old lady trying to cross a river and helped her across. In doing so he lost his sandal. Little did he know, that old lady was Hera, wife of Zeus, Queen of the Gods. She would become his ally.In Iolcos, Jason was announced as a man in one sandal. He came before King Pelias, revealed who he was and claimed the kingdom. Pelias agreed to cede the kingdom, but only on one condition: that Jason brought him the fleece of the golden ram. He had set Jason an impossible task, a task that would take him beyond the known world (which at this point was about as far as the Black Sea), to the barbarian kingdom of Colchis. But Jason agreed.The fleece, so the story went, was of a magical ram that had once belonged to Zeus. It hung from a tree in a sacred grove, guarded by bulls with hooves of brass and breath of fire, and a dragon that never slept, whose teeth became soldiers when planted in the ground. The fleece belonged to Aietes, King of Colchis, son of the sun god, Helios, no less. Another oracle had foretold that Aietes would lose his kingdom, if he lost his fleece. I love how legends and myths are born out of truths and here is a case in point. East of the Black Sea in what today is Georgia - in Colchis in other words - sheepskins were used to pan gold from rivers. The fleeces were stretched over a wooden frame and then submerged in rivers, where the tight curls of the sheep's coat would catch nuggets and specks of gold carried down in the rushing water from placer deposits upstream. The fleeces were then hung in trees to dry, after which the gold was combed out. If you have a wet fleece full of alluvial gold hanging to dry in a tree, you are going to make sure it is well guarded - by bulls and dragons, if necessary. It's quite easy to see how this practice had evolved into the myth of a golden fleece as the story spread east from the other side of the Black Sea. Three Impossible TasksJason had a ship, the Argo, built. He assembled a crew - the Argonauts - a band of heroes which included such luminaries as Hercules, the twins Castor and Pollux, Peleus (father of Achilles), Orpheus (the musician) and Atlanta (the virgin huntress who would never marry). They set off on what is seen by some as the first long-distance voyage ever undertaken, perhaps the first time a Greek had successfully navigated the hostile currents of the Bosphorus. En route, the Argonauts stopped on the Isle of Lemnos, inhabited by a band of women who had killed their husbands. There they fathered a new people with them, the Minyae. Sounds like a good holiday. They fought giants with six arms, they killed harpies, they navigated the clashing rocks of the Bosphorus and eventually arrived in Colchis. There King Aietes set Jason an impossible task - actually three - if he wanted to claim the fleece as his own. He had to harness the fire-breathing oxen and plough a field with them. He had to sow a field with dragon's teeth and fight the army of phantom soldiers that resulted. And, finally, he had to overcome the dragon.Needless to say, Jason was discouraged, but Hera, Jason's ally, leant on Aphrodite, goddess of love, to lend a hand. She sent her son, Eros, to shoot one of his arrows and it struck Aietes' daughter, Medea, who fell in love with Jason. Medea gave Jason an ointment to protect him from the oxen's fire. She showed him how to defeat the phantom soldiers with a rock that would confuse them into fighting each other. She gave him a potion to send the dragon to sleep, so that he could take the fleece.  With the fleece in hand, Jason and his Argonauts attempted their escape. To help them, Medea murdered her brother and threw pieces of his body into the sea. Grief-stricken, Aietes stopped to collect the pieces of body, allowing Jason, Medea and the Argonauts to get away.There were as many adventures on the way home. They passed the infamous Sirens, whose songs enticed sailors, only for their ships to wreck on the rocks. But Orpheus played his lyre and drowned their songs with music that was more beautiful. They could not pass Crete, for the rocks that the bronze man Talos threw at them, but again they were saved by Medea, who cast a spell on Talos and then killed him.Back at Iolcos, Jason's father, Aeson, was too old to participate in the celebrations, but Medea used her witchcraft to rejuvenate him.  Pelias' daughters asked her to do the same for the ageing Pelias. Medea advised them to chop him up and put him in a cauldron to boil, which they duly did. It was a trick, of course, and Pelias was no more. But Jason and Medea were exiled for the murder and they fled to city of Corinth. There Jason betrayed Medea by marrying the king's daughter. Medea confronted Jason, heartbroken, but Jason blamed Aphrodite for having made Medea fall in love with him. Medea would have her revenge, a revenge which has become the subject of many a drama since, not least at the National Rheatre.She gave Jason's newly betrothed a dress that stuck to her body and burned her to death. The king died with his daughter as he tried to save her. Then Medea killed her own two sons, born by Jason, and fled to Athens in a chariot of dragons sent by her grandfather, the sun-god Helios.Jason returned to Iolcus to claim his kingdom, but as a result of breaking his vow to love Medea forever, he lost the favour of Hera. He died lonely and unhappy, asleep on the rotting Argo.It's a buccaneering adventure story, full of the human psychological flaws that the Ancient Greeks seemed so cognizant of, with a typically Greek tragic end. The formula of hero, dark power and female helper has become the backbone of numerous plots since, not least in Hollywood, while the premise - a young man setting off in search of his fortune, made of gold - is the premise of every youngster setting off on his or her life's adventure.My show on gold at the Edinburgh Fringe this August will take place at Panmure House, the room in which  Adam Smith wrote Wealth of Nations. You can get tickets here.Interested in buying gold to protect yourself in these uncertain times? My recommended bullion dealer is The Pure Gold Company, whether you are taking delivery or storing online. Premiums are low, quality of service is high. They deliver to the UK, US, Canada and Europe, or you can store your gold with them. More here. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theflyingfrisby.com/subscribe

This episode contains themes of a sexual natureAchilles is one of the greatest heroes in Greek mythology. The son of Peleus, a Greek King, and Thetis, a divine sea nymph, Achilles was a demigod with extraordinary strength and courage. The perfect combination to make a great warrior, he is perhaps best known from Homer's epic poem the Iliad, which details his adventures in the final year of the Trojan War.He's also gone down in history for his passionate love for his companion, Patroclus, and given June is Pride month, we wanted to explore this relationship. Was it really erotic? What do the sources say? Does our definition of love differ to that of the Ancient Greeks? And how did it inspire one of the greatest military generals in history: Alexander of Macedon?To help explore these themes, host Tristan Hughes is joined by returning guest Professor Alastair Blanshard from University of Queensland.Voiceover: Lucy DavidsonScript Writer: Andrew HulseEditor: Aidan LonerganAssistant Producer: Annie ColoeSenior Producer: Elena GuthrieDiscover the past on History Hit with ad-free original podcasts and documentaries released weekly presented by world renowned historians like Dan Snow, Suzannah Lipscomb, Lucy Worsely, Matt Lewis, Tristan Hughes and more. Get 50% off your first 3 months with code ANCIENTS. Download the app on your smart TV or in the app store or sign up here.You can take part in our listener survey here.For more Ancient's content, subscribe to our Ancient's newsletter here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions is back to cover more Greek myths and figures that came up in PJO Book 4 and the Demigod Files! Topics include: froyo strategies, fancy tastes, Peleus, Krios, Hyperion, Kampê, Briares, Gerson, Heracles speedrun any%, pronunciation guides, art motifs, krater vases, museum blurbs, Nickeeback, modern art, Despoina, Hera, The Iliad, Melinoe, ant-people, Noah, the Keres, and more! TNO ON TOUR: thenewestolympian.com/live OSP video on Golden Net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFMGnsHECd8 OSP video on Persephone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac5ksZTvZN8  Thanks to our sponsor, Athletic Greens! Get 1 year of Vitamin D and 5 free travel packs at athleticgreens.com/newestolympian   — Find The Newest Olympian Online — • Website: www.thenewestolympian.com • Patreon: www.thenewestolympian.com/patreon • Twitter: www.twitter.com/newestolympian • Instagram: www.instagram.com/newestolympian • Facebook: www.facebook.com/newestolympian • Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/thenewestolympian • Merch: www.thenewestolympian.com/merch — Production — • Creator, Host, Producer, Social Media, Web Design: Mike Schubert • Editor: Sherry Guo • Music: Bettina Campomanes and Brandon Grugle • Art: Jessica E. Boyd — About The Show — Is Percy Jackson the book series we should've been reading all along? Join Mike Schubert as he reads through the books for the first time with the help of longtime PJO fans to cover the plot, take stabs at what happens next, and nerd out over Greek mythology. Whether you're looking for an excuse to finally read these books, or want to re-read an old favorite with a digital book club, grab your blue chocolate chip cookies and listen along. New episodes release on Mondays wherever you get your podcasts!

The myth of Cygnus and Achilles is a story of war, violence, and revenge. It is also a story of love, loss, and redemption. The moral and ethical implications of the story are complex and can be interpreted in many ways. In the story, Cygnus is a Trojan prince who is invulnerable to harm. He is the son of Poseidon, the god of the sea. Achilles is a Greek warrior who is also invulnerable to harm. He is the son of Peleus, the king of the Myrmidons, and Thetis, a sea nymph. The two men meet in battle and fight to the death. Achilles is unable to kill Cygnus with his weapons, so he strangles him with his helmet strap. Poseidon, who is watching the battle, is furious. He transforms Cygnus into a swan and carries him away to the sea. The myth of Cygnus and Achilles can be interpreted in many ways. Some see it as a story of the futility of war. Others see it as a story of the power of love and the importance of forgiveness. Still others see it as a story about the dangers of revenge. The myth of Cygnus and Achilles can be applied to both classical antiquity and our modern world. In classical antiquity, the story was used to teach lessons about the dangers of war and the importance of forgiveness. In our modern world, the story can be used to teach lessons about the importance of peace and non-violence. The myth of Cygnus and Achilles is a powerful story that has been told and retold for centuries. It is a story that can teach us about the human condition and the importance of love, forgiveness, and peace. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/liam-connerly/support

TLH. Superman, Beauty Queen, And The Human Torch Walk Into A Summer Camp. Welcome back to our Riordanverse readalong and analysis podcast!! Here's SZN12 Episode 1, where we dive into the Heroes of Olympus series, and discuss chapters 1-4 (I-IV) of The Lost Hero. We're finally back and ready to welcome our new trio to camp! Jason is waking up with no memory and then fighting some wind. Piper is having a breakdown and Annabeth has no sympathy. Chiron is being useless as usual and Mr D is helping Will plant some medical mary j. We also have a heated debate about Peleus the dragon's sleeping position. We hope you'll join us next week for chapters V-VIII (5-8) of The Lost Hero! xx Kate & Jo   ::SOCIALS:: Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/damsnackbarpod/ (@damsnackbarpod) Send us an IrisMessage to join our community. Email us at damsnackbarpod@outlook.com Consider donating to our ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/damsnackbarpodcast All of our other social media is linked here: https://linktr.ee/damsnackbarpod Episode Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ias3T7SOBIJe-_RDgau-po_7BQqJYS0aZbZ096BKk4g/edit?usp=sharing

It's party time in the sea realm - the Nereid Amphitrite is about to wed Poseidon - but she's having second thoughts. Can her sister Thetis persuade her to tie the knot in time? And what's really behind the ominous rumours the party guests are spreading? This episode was written and directed by Bibi Jacob. Production and sound design by Geoff Chong. It stars: Sharon Mann as Thetis. Elizabeth Wautlet as Amphitrite. Sandy Bernard as Doto. Nigel Pilkington and Morag Cross as the Gossips, Lalli and Kat. Doug Rand as Peleus. Dharni Mistry as the child. Bibi Jacob and Doug Rand as party guests.  The actors recorded in studios in both Paris and London. A huge thank you to Marie Prevost at Voice Addict Studio, Paris, for her support. And thank you to Nigel Pilkington for the London recording. And an enormous thank you to the wonderful Underscore Orkestra - https://www.theunderscoreorkestra.com - for permission to use their music. These tracks feature at the party:  Swing Gitane; It Ain't Right; Blue Drag; I'se a Muggin.

Achilles was a mythical great Greek warrior, the son of Peleus and the sea nymph Thetis, who, upon his birth, dipped baby Achilles into the River Styx, making him invincible. However, she neglected to let the water cover the heel by which she held him. And so, this was the only part of his body that was vulnerable to injury. He eventually died when he was wounded by an arrow which struck his vulnerable heel, which is why we refer to a person's weakness metaphorically as his "Achilles heel". I've never heard of anyone else dying from a heel injury, which also makes him pretty special, I guess. Read the full post at http://RunningAFEVER.com/317 Photo by Kindel Media: https://www.pexels.com/photo/a-person-wearing-rubber-shoes-7298422/  

Oh Muses! In this episode we tell the tale of Thetis, Peleus, and Achilles. We come across gods threatened by greatness, the concept of legacy, having children, marriage without love, and young people making big decisions. —---- National Geographic Kids Greeking Out is a kid-friendly retelling of some of the best stories from Greek mythology. Check Out bit.ly/ZeusOut to meet Zeus the Hamster and his friends—Athena the cat, Ares the pug, Demeter the grasshopper, and many more—who also listen to the Greeking Out podcast. Watch a video, read an excerpt, or check out the truth behind the stories!

Today we will be diving into the world of the Trojan War. This episode will cover some of the events that led up to the Trojan War: the wedding of Peleus and Thetis, Paris, the judgment of Paris, Helen of Sparta/Troy, and Cassandra.Contact infoeffeduphistory@gmail.com@effeduphistory on all socialsBook a Tour of Salem, MAhttps://www.viator.com/tours/Salem/Curses-and-Crimes-Candlelight-Tour/d22414-325232P2Buy Me A Coffee:buymeacoffee.com/effeduphistoryInterested in starting a podcast of your own? I highly suggest using buzzsprout to list and post! If you use my affiliate link, you get a $20 amazon gift card after 2 paid months.https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1630084 Sources: https://www.theoi.com/Pontios/Nereides.htmlhttps://www.suppressedhistories.net/Gallery/greek/raptor.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Thetishttps://www.greek-gods.info/greek-heroes/theseus/myths/theseus-helen/#:~:text=When%20Theseus%20started%20becoming%20of,in%20Sparta%20and%20kidnapped%20Helen.https://www.theoi.com/Olympios/JudgementParis.htmlhttps://www.theoi.com/articles/what-was-the-cause-of-the-trojan-war/https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/trojan-war#:~:text=According%20to%20classical%20sources%2C%20the,an%20expedition%20to%20retrieve%20her.https://www.britannica.com/topic/Peleushttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Achilles-Greek-mythologyhttps://www.scribd.com/read/336131245/The-Iliad-The-Stephen-Mitchell-Translationhttps://www.greeklegendsandmyths.com/achilles-on-skyros.htmlhttps://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Helen/helen.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Iphigenia-at-Aulishttp://www.allempires.com/allempires.com-redirect/article/index.php?q=war_trojanMusicMedieval Loop One, Dawn, and Celebration by Alexander Nakarada | https://www.serpentsoundstudios.comMusic promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.comAttribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/effeduphistory)

Today we will be diving into the world of the Trojan War. This episode will cover some of the events that led up to the Trojan War: the wedding of Peleus and Thetis, Paris, the judgment of Paris, Helen of Sparta/Troy, and Cassandra.Contact infoeffeduphistory@gmail.com@effeduphistory on all socialsBook a Tour of Salem, MAhttps://www.viator.com/tours/Salem/Curses-and-Crimes-Candlelight-Tour/d22414-325232P2Buy Me A Coffee:buymeacoffee.com/effeduphistoryInterested in starting a podcast of your own? I highly suggest using buzzsprout to list and post! If you use my affiliate link, you get a $20 amazon gift card after 2 paid months.https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1630084 Sources: https://www.theoi.com/Pontios/Nereides.htmlhttps://www.suppressedhistories.net/Gallery/greek/raptor.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Thetishttps://www.greek-gods.info/greek-heroes/theseus/myths/theseus-helen/#:~:text=When%20Theseus%20started%20becoming%20of,in%20Sparta%20and%20kidnapped%20Helen.https://www.theoi.com/Olympios/JudgementParis.htmlhttps://www.theoi.com/articles/what-was-the-cause-of-the-trojan-war/https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/trojan-war#:~:text=According%20to%20classical%20sources%2C%20the,an%20expedition%20to%20retrieve%20her.https://www.britannica.com/topic/Peleushttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Achilles-Greek-mythologyhttps://www.scribd.com/read/336131245/The-Iliad-The-Stephen-Mitchell-Translationhttps://www.greeklegendsandmyths.com/achilles-on-skyros.htmlhttps://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Mortals/Helen/helen.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Iphigenia-at-Aulishttp://www.allempires.com/allempires.com-redirect/article/index.php?q=war_trojanMusicMedieval Loop One, Dawn, and Celebration by Alexander Nakarada | https://www.serpentsoundstudios.comMusic promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.comAttribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/effeduphistory)

Atalanta: the heroine of ancient Greece. Or, was it heroines? There are two Atalantas, sometimes conflated into one, other times separate. One fought the Calydonian boar, wrestled Peleus, and generally kicked ass. The other lost a foot race, distracted by a golden apple.CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: Theoi.com entry on Atalanta, including Aelian, Apollodorus, Apollonios, and others; Early Greek Myths by Timothy Gantz.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Atalanta: the heroine of ancient Greece. Or, was it heroines? There are two Atalantas, sometimes conflated into one, other times separate. One fought the Calydonian boar, wrestled Peleus, and generally kicked ass. The other lost a foot race, distracted by a golden apple.CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: Theoi.com entry on Atalanta, including Aelian, Apollodorus, Apollonios, and others; Early Greek Myths by Timothy Gantz.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome to Episode 37. Imagine beasts that are half-horse and half-man. They're crude. Their weapons are broken branches and rocks. The ancient Greeks called them Centaurs.But among them was a unique and sophisticated being. A centaur named Kheiron (pronounced Sheer-roan) was so wise and wily that gods and men asked him to teach their children. He raised Asklepios, Peleus, Jason and Achilles. He was friends with the hero Heracles.Although immortal, after a long life he was wounded by a poisoned arrow. The pain was so severe that he chose to embrace death to escape the agony ...Narrated by mythologist and best-selling author, Patrick Garner, Garner's Greek Mythology is unlike any other Greek history series.  Here these divine beings are viewed as if they were anything but mythical...If you love this podcast, you'll also enjoy Garner's novel Homo Divinitas, now available as an audio book on Amazon.com and Audible.com.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/garnersgreekmythology)

"Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus' son Achilleus and its devastation,…” Enjoy this taste of the Magnus Fellowship with Senior Fellow Joseph Pearce and Magnus Fellows as they dive into the world of Homer and explore the first three books of his Iliad. Give to AMI's Great Campaign now to keep our work going strong. MagnusInstitute.org/give

Today's episode is an adaptation of a Greek myth that we're doing in 2 parts. In part 1 we hear about the wedding of Peleus and Thetis. Eris, the goddess of chaos, was not invited to the wedding precisely because she couldn't help but cause trouble and chaos wherever she went. However, when she found out she wasn't invited, she managed to cause quite a bit of chaos anyway.Draw us a picture of what you think any of the characters in this story look like, and then tag us in it on instagram @storiespodcast! We'd love to see your artwork and share it on our feed!!If you would like to support Stories Podcast, you can subscribe and give us a five star review on iTunes, head to patreon.com/stories and pledge to make a monthly donation, check out our merch at storiespodcast.com/shop, follow us on Instagram @storiespodcast, or just tell your friends about us!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

HUYỀN THOẠI BẮT ĐẦU… Hy Lạp vào thời hoàng kim của các anh hùng. Patroclus là một hoàng tử trẻ vụng về, bị trục xuất tới vương quốc Phthia và được nuôi dạy dưới sự che chở của vua Peleus cùng cậu con trai hoàng kim của ngài, Achilles. “Người Hy Lạp vĩ đại nhất” – mạnh mẽ, đẹp đẽ, và mang nửa dòng máu của một nữ thần – Achilles là tất cả những gì mà Patroclus không bao giờ có được. Nhưng bất chấp sự khác biệt giữa họ, hai cậu bé trở thành chiến hữu trung thành của nhau. Tình cảm giữa họ càng đậm sâu khi cả hai lớn lên thành những chàng trai trẻ, thành thạo trong kĩ nghệ chiến đấu và y dược. Khi tin tức truyền tới rằng nàng Helen xứ Sparta đã bị bắt cóc, những chiến binh Hy Lạp, bị trói buộc bởi lời thề máu, phải nhân danh nàng mà vây hãm thành Troy. Bị cám dỗ bởi lời hứa hẹn về một số mệnh huy hoàng, Achilles tham gia hàng ngũ của họ. Bị giằng xé giữa tình yêu và nỗi lo sợ dành cho người bạn của mình, Patroclus ra trận theo Achilles. Họ không hay biết rằng các nữ thần Số Phận sẽ thử thách cả hai người họ hơn bao giờ hết và đòi hỏi một sự hi sinh khủng khiếp. Dựa trên nền tảng của sử thi Iliad, câu chuyện về cuộc chiến thành Troy vĩ đại đã được Madeline Miller kể lại với tiết tấu dồn dập, lôi cuốn, và không kém phần xúc động, đánh dấu sự khởi đầu của một sự nghiệp rực rỡ. Trường Ca Achilles đã đoạt giải Orange năm 2012 và luôn nằm trong top các sách bán chạy của tờ New York Times. Được sự cho phép của Wings Books, Trạm Radio xin phép được trích đọc chương một và hai của cuốn sách Trường Ca Achilles. Bản quyền tiếng Việt thuộc về Wings Books. Link mua sách: https://tiki.vn/truong-ca-achilles-qua-tang-kem-01-bookmark-01-phu-luc-p56609155.html #TrạmRadio #RadioVănHọc #MadelineMiller __________ Để cam kết với bạn nghe đài dự án Trạm Radio sẽ chạy đường dài, chúng tôi cần sự ủng hộ của quý bạn để duy trì những dịch vụ phải trả phí. Mọi tấm lòng đều vô cùng trân quý đối với ban biên tập, và tạo động lực cho chúng tôi tiếp tục sản xuất và trau chuốt nội dung hấp dẫn hơn nữa. Mọi đóng góp cho Trạm Radio xin gửi về: Nguyen Ha Trang STK 19034705725015 Ngân hàng Techcombank. Chi nhánh Hà Nội.

Girl Meets Boy van Ali Smith, met Suzanne Balm Deze week duikt Radio Savannah de Griekse mythologie in. We worden gelukkig ondersteunt door onze favoriete auteur Ali Smith en onze superspecial giest Suzanne Balm. We bespreken de populariteit van queer/feministische hervertellingen en zwijmelen weg bij de moosite seksscene uit de recente literatuurgeschiedenis. Wil je meer Suzanne Balm in je leven? volg haar dan op Instagram via @suzablam. Wil je meekletsen over Radio Savannah? Volg Savannah Bay op Instagram, Twitter en Facebook en gebruik #RadioSavannah. Voor (lees)tips en fanmail zijn we te bereiken op info@savannahbay.nl . 'Girl meets boy'. It's a story as old as time. But what happens when an old story meets a brand new set of circumstances? Ali Smith's remix of Ovid's most joyful metamorphosis is a story about the kind of fluidity that can't be bottled and sold. It is about girls and boys, girls and girls, love and transformation, a story of puns and doubles, reversals and revelations. Funny and fresh, poetic and political, here is a tale of change for the modern world. Vind het boek hier in de webshop. Waar vind ik al die queer/feministische hervertellingen dan? Wanneer haar stad in handen valt van de Grieken, is het leven van koningin Briseïs geruïneerd. Haar man en broers zijn vermoord en zijzelf wordt als concubine de oorlogstrofee van de goddelijke strijder Achilles. En zij is niet de enige. Tijdens de lange, bittere oorlog worden ontelbaar veel vrouwen uit hun huis geroofd en aan de strijders toebedeeld. De Ilias staat bekend als een mannenepos: de strijd tussen twee mannen om een vrouw, Helena. Maar hoe verging het de vrouwen, die geen enkele stem kregen? Waarover spraken zij als ze in de Griekse kampen onder elkaar waren: aan het spinnewiel, terwijl ze de doden aflegden, als verzorgsters van de gewonden? In deze historische roman beschrijft Pat Barker het leven van een vrouw te midden van de oorlogschaos, die vecht voor haar vrijheid, zodat haar stem uiteindelijk gehoord wordt. Een roman over een thema dat urgenter is dan ooit. Vind het boek hier in de webshop. In het huis van Helios, god van de zon en de machtigste onder de Titanen, wordt een dochter geboren. Circe is een vreemd kind, en zonder de goddelijke uitstraling van haar vader wordt ze uitgestoten door haar familie. Geïsoleerd wendt ze zich tot de gewone stervelingen voor gezelschap, waarbij ze een kracht ontdekt die verboden is voor de goden: hekserij. Wanneer de liefde haar ertoe brengt een vervloeking uit te spreken, stuurt Zeus Circe naar een verlaten eiland, waar ze haar vaardigheden verder ontwikkelt. De wereld is echter een gevaarlijke plaats voor een vrouw alleen, en met haar onafhankelijkheid roept Circe de toorn van zowel mannen als goden over zich af. Om te beschermen wat haar het meest dierbaar is, moet Circe al haar krachten aanwenden. Madeline Miller brengt de oudheid sprankelend tot leven in dit betoverende verhaal van goden en helden, magie en monsters, overleven en transformatie. Vind het boek hier in de webshop. Een verhaal over goden, koningen, onsterfelijke roem en het menselijk hart. Achilles, ‘de beste onder de Grieken', zoon van de wrede zeegodin Thetis en de legendarische koning Peleus, is sterk, snel en onweerstaanbaar knap. Patroclus is een zachtaardige prins, verbannen uit zijn vaderland na een gewelddadig incident. Achilles neemt Patroclus onder zijn hoede en de twee jongens ontwikkelen een meer dan hechte vriendschap. Als duidelijk wordt dat de schone Helena van Sparta is ontvoerd, worden alle mannen opgeroepen om Troje te belegeren. Verleid door de belofte van eeuwige roem sluit Achilles zich aan bij het leger, en Patrocles, verscheurd door de liefde voor en angst om zijn vriend, volgt hem. Zij weten niet dat een wreed lot hen tot het uiterste zal testen en een afschuwelijk offer zal vragen. 'Een lied voor Achilles' is een episch liefdesverhaal, een spannende,

Diesmal spanne ich den großen Bogen: von antiker Mythologie zu moderner Internet Folklore. Als Zeus Thetis und Peleus vermählt und zu dem Anlass ein rauschendes Fest feiert ahnt noch niemand, dass das nicht nur den Anlass für einen der großen Kriege der Antike stiften wird sondern auch gleichzeitig die Ausgangserzählung einer Internetreligion namens Diskordianismus geboren ist.

Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus' son Achilles  Those words are among the first Wyoming Catholic College freshmen read as fall semester begins. They open Homer's Iliad. In the epic, “Atreus' son the lord of men,” that is, Agamemnon so offends Achilles that Achilles refuses to fight. As a result, the Greeks suffer defeat after defeat before the walls of Troy, being driven back and back to their ships on the beach. Until.... Dr. Glenn Arbery, President of Wyoming Catholic College loves Homer's Iliad and is once again in the classroom with freshmen introducing this, one of the greatest of The Great Books.

This episode covers the three Homeric Hymns dedicated to Aphrodite, numbers 5, 6, and 10. To join the discussion, visit the blog at Triumvir Clio's School of Classical Civilization. Reference Shelmerdine, Susan Chadwick. The Homeric Hymns. Focus Information Group, 1995. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/bethany-banner/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/bethany-banner/support

I think we live in a time of horrible leadership. Just across the board. Everybody in power seems to be frighteningly old and since the last 40 or so years have been so easy, none of the people in charge of anything have dealt with a real crisis. Or had to build anything. They tear down, they criticize, they pass the buck and grift their way through, with seemingly no awareness that the stakes might be real and far more important than any one person's advantage. Many of the characters in How to Succeed in Evil are predicated on this kind of idea. People have great potential and power, but they are stupid about using it. Even stupid about doing the wrong things with it. As I returned to How to Succeed in Evil, I consciously tried to turn away from current events. These stories are meant to be an escape and enjoyment, rather than any ill-advised attempt to reform anything about the world. Because entertainment is a noble thing in its own right. Everybody needs a break. But here we are. Perhaps it's an unavoidable theme in this moment. I can't even read ancient books without running into it.BUT FIRST, A THEORY OF CONSCIOUSNESS?The craziest book I've read in the last year is The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes. And he argues that before some point, the executive functions of our brain were opaque to us -- and appeared to us as voices or gods commanding us to act.And this was because (loosely speaking) the left side of the brain tends to deal with routine situations and the right side of the brain deals with more novel situations. And if there's a wall between them -- if they are in separate chambers as the term bicameral literally means, then when faced with something novel, the only way the right side of the brain could get through to us in waking hours, was a hallucination. And Jaynes makes the argument that this is how it worked and very much the way schizophrenics and people with specific kinds of brain damage experience the world today. None of these claims are nuts to me. At one point we, as a species didn't have consciousness -- we weren't aware we were going to die and of the problems that created for us on multiple levels and on multiple time frames -- and at some point, we woke up. But here's where it becomes audacious. Jaynes claims that you can see this split in ancient literature. Running like a fault line into works that are before consciousness and works that are after. Before this split, there was no interior sense of self, consciousness, or agency in the way we'd think of it. No lying or deception. The Epic of Gilgamesh is totally like this. And after this split, people are conflicted. They become liars and aware that other people can be liars. And the nice thing about this theory is that it explains, in the Iliad, why the Gods are the primary motive forces. The book -- more properly, a poem -- doesn't have men and women reflecting on events and deciding what to do, but gods and goddesses visiting them and making decisions for them. I'll provide some examples in a moment. This leads to all kinds of crazy lines of thought. Because without intent, is ever killing in the Iliad a kind of 2nd-degree murder. There can't be premeditation because there's no meditation. You know, if you don't look at the Trojan war as war in the story, which it absolutely is. But here's the crazy part -- Jaynes argues that this fault line of consciousness runs right between the Iliad and the Odyssey. This is a crazy idea and I love it. And he seems to make a pretty good case for it. But to really evaluate it I think you have to be an expert in Ancient Greek, neuroscience, psychology, and consciousness. And people like that are very scarce on the ground. Especially because we know effectively nothing about consciousness. But as a writer, I don't care if it's true. I care if it's USEFUL. If it's productive of more ideas. If I can use this theory as a lens to increase my understanding. And oh boy, does it ever. As I came back to How to Succeed in Evil, I was more conscious than ever that characters can be representations of different aspects of the psyche. This started off pretty obviously in How to Succeed in Evil. Sloppily speaking, Topper is the Id. Agnes is the Ego. Edwin is the Superego. At least in the original book. Part of my challenge for writing more was to add depth and challenge to these characters. So I decided to re-read the Iliad through the lens of each character being an aspect of personality. And also to see how well Jaynes' theory fits the story from my, admittedly, uninformed perspective. When I did, something amazing happened. And it illustrates the rewards of giving time and attention to great literature. Let me show you:In my memory, the Iliad is the story of Achilles' anger. I mean, it's certainly a war story. But that's the external plot. But what makes a story powerful is the internal story. A contemporary and simple example of this is Jaws. The external story is that the sheriff must defeat the shark to keep the town safe. The internal story is that the sheriff must defeat his fear of the water. And that's what makes him heroic in our eyes. And the reason it's easy to think of the Iliad as the story of Achilles' rage is that's the way it starts. The first chapter is entitled "The Rage of Achilles" and the first line -- the traditional invocation of the muse is > Rage goddess, sing the rage of Peleus' son Achilles, murderous, doomed, that cost the Achaeans countless losses, hurling down to the house of death so many sturdy souls.Okay, so, cautionary tale about the destructive perils of rage. That's a theme that's never going to go out of style. But, why is he so angry? He's angry because Agamemnon, the leader of the Greeks, is a worthless leader. > Many a brave soul did it (Achilles' anger) send hurrying down to Hades, and many a hero did it yield a prey to dogs and vultures, for so were the counsels of Jove fulfilled from the day on which the son of Atreus, king of men, and great Achilles, first fell out with one another. Even in the explanation, Jove -- Zeus -- Jupiter -- is the force driving the whole thing. Son of Atreus king of Men is Agamemnon. So, at the beginning of the story, which starts in the middle of the war, a plague has descended upon the camp. People are dropping like flies. Homer represents this as the god Apollo striking them down with his arrows. > He cut them down in droves and the corpse-fires burned on, night and day, no end in sight. This goes on for nine days. And finally, Achilles can't take it anymore. He calls together the men and says, we're going to lose the war if this keeps up. But before we give up, we should ask a priest. So they do. And, reluctantly, because the priest is well aware of what a jackass Agamemnon is, he tells them that Apollo is unhappy because Agamemnon won't give up a girl he's taken as a slave. But if he gives the girl back to her father, the plague will stop. So, what does Agamemnon do? What would you do? I mean besides not trying to sack Troy or taking a girl as a slave in the first place. As a good leader, what would you do? I'd said, "Great. Here's the girl. Spare my men." This concern for the troops is what motivates Achilles to go to the priest. Right? It's the most important thing. Everybody can see that. Except for Agamemnon who goes off on the priest.Seer of misery! Never a word that works to my advantage! Always misery warms your heart, your prophecies -- never a word of profit said or brought to pass.Now, again you divine god's will for the armies,bruit it about, as fact, why the deadly Archermultiplies our pains: because I, I refusedthat glittering price for the young girl ChryseisIndeed I prefer her by far, the girl herself,I want her mine in my own house! I rank her higher than Clytemnestra, my wedded wife -- she's nothing lessin build or breeding, in mind or works of hand.Now don't get distracted by the fact that the name Clytemnestra sounds like a cross between a venereal disease and a banned food additive. Stay with Agamemnon. Notice how he is bitter, petty, and all about him. And he takes eleven lines before he gets to the most important thing. But I am willing to give her back, even so, if that is best for all. What I really wantis to keep my people safe, not see them dying.The Iliad is manifestly the wrong book for not seeing people dying. And clearly, _he_ could have asked the priest what was up. But he didn't. But here's the telling point. But fetch me another prize, and straight off too, else I alone of the Argives go without my honor. That would be disgrace. You are all witness, look -- my prize is snatched away. Which isn't even correct in the story. Because the girl's father came to buy his daughter back from Agamemnon. The dude is just being arrogant and prideful. And there's a word for that in Ancient Greek. Hubris. So anyway, because Achilles stands up to him, Agamemnon takes Achilles' slave girl. At that moment Achilles goes for his sword, but Athena appears to him -- a hallucination of the executive function of the brain stepping in as per our theory -- and convinces him not to fight Agamemnon. But he's so upset about the loss of his slave girl that he decides to go on strike and sit out the war. And he takes the best troops with him. Because of bad leadership, the most competent warrior refuses to fight. In essence, he resigns. Does any of this seem at all familiar or at least analogous? Now, you could say that Agamemnon is just having a bad day. Or a bad moment. Or maybe he just doesn't get along with Achilles, who we can also see as a kind of prima-donna. In book 11 -- Agamemnon's Day of Glory -- he rides out and cuts people down like grass, until, he gets a cut on his forearm and he leaves the field. Not as heroic as he could be. Now Agamemnon is not elected in any sense of the word, but the text seems pretty clear to me that he has his power because he has the relationships with all the coalition members. How good these relationships are? So when Agamemnon goes home to get a band-aid, the Trojans rally and it looks like the Greeks are going to be routed -- driven back into the sea. But Odysseus and Diomedes rally the men and keep it from being a complete loss. But this read far from glory for Agamemnon. From that point in the book, the Greeks take a pretty straight beating from then in. And it gets so bad, that at one point, Agamemnon, says, "Maybe we should take a couple of ships and row out to sea, wait until dark and come back and collect everybody who has survived and then go home." Which is a horrible idea. And Odysseus, the most cunning of them, all unleashes this speech. With a dark glance, the shrewd tactician OdysseusWheeled on his commander. "What's this, Atrides,this talk that slips from your clenched teeth?You are the disaster. Would to god you commanded another army.What if one of the men gets wind of your brave plan? No one should ever let such nonsense pass his lipsno one with any skill in fit and proper speech-- and least of all yourself, a sceptered king. Full battalions hang on your words AgamemnonAchean troops will never hold the line, I tell you. not while the long ships are being hauled to sea. They'll look left and right -- for where can they run? and they'll fling their lust for battle to the winds. Then, Commander of armies, your plan will kill us all."At that the King of men Agamemnon backed down. Yeah, he did. The war goes on and it gets worse fro Greeks. All the Greek heroes are knocked out of commission either dead or wounded, and it looks like the end. But Achilles is so pissed he still won't help So Patroclus, Achilles' best friend goes to him and begs -- not for Achilles to re-enter the fray, but for Achilles lend him his armor and lead his troops the Myrmidons (who are fresh because they've been resting this whole time) out into battle. One sharp shock will turn the tide and everybody fears Achilles. But Patroclus, though brave, is no great warrior. Hector rides out and kills him. Achilles goes out and weeps over his friend's dead body. And then at dawn Achilles mother - a goddess -- brings him a new, even more, magnificent suit of armor hot off Vulcan's forge. Agamemnon finally gives him his girl back. Achilles hops on his chariot ready to ready to go to war. And there's this little moment. He pats his horse and praises them, reminds them of the lineage they come from, and tells them to do a good job. It's human and recognizable. The kind of thing you'd see in a cowboy movie. Except that one of his horses _talks back_ saying, basically, "Man, I'ma do my best, but you better get right with the fact that you gonna die on this windy plain of Troy." It couldn't be any weirder if Hunter S. Thompson wrote it. And Achilles, cause he's such a badass says, Don't waste your breath.I know, well I know -- I am destined to die here, far from my dear father,far from mother. But all the same, I will never stoptil I drive the Trojans to their bloody fill of war.Then he yells "eeYeah!" whips the horse into action and goes off to kill, well, everybody. Now, before we get to the climax, it's important to recognize how out of control this war gets. Diomedes, a Greek, tries to kill love. He wounds a goddess, Aphrodite. Like, I understand heartbreak, and I understand anger. But I've never wanted to KILL love. And then he turns right around and spears the GOD of WAR through the stomach, forcing him to leave the field. Diomedes is a badass and he gets very little press. And as much of a badass as Diomedes is, he's not the fiercest warrior in the story. That's Achilles, who now uncorks his entire can of whoop-ass. Ultimately he kills Hector, the Trojan's most valiant warrior, and drags his corpse around the city behind his chariot. The war doesn't end in the Iliad. The book ends with Hector's funeral. But the feeling among the Trojans is that the war is lost. That great stuff about the Trojan horse we actually get from Virgil, a Roman poet who wrote much later, in the Aeneid. FINALLY BRINGING IT ALL HOME So with all of that as an explanation -- and forgive me if I got a little carried away, but it's a great story. Let me finally get to my point and bring this whole thing home. A great work of art can be read in many different ways. And all of them are profitable. That's what makes the Canon the canon. The works are deep, almost beyond belief. To me, it appears that the modern-day humanities have abandoned this understanding in the pursuit of social justice. And it's not that the impulse towards justice is wrong -- it's that they have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Of course, there is the crass stupidity of dismissing Homer as an old dead white guy. Homer was, at best, just the guy who wrote the story down, but he seems to be just a representation of a very long tradition of oral poets who come from a culture alien to ours. And if you believe Julian Jaynes, not even, for much of their history, possessing what we think of as interior consciousness. But this very alien quality -- and the unbelievable intellectual flourishing of Greece before the Peloponnesian war -- are what make this culture worth studying. Because they were human and brilliant and highly successful, but totally different from us. It's like the benefits of travel. I don't think people are fundamentally different anywhere you go. But if you only stay in one place or culture, what you think of as fundamentally human, is very narrow. But the farther you range in your travels and you're reading, the more of what is really, truly fundamental, important and beautiful about being human is revealed. So here's what I take from my last psychological reading of the Iliad. Agamemnon is a venial and corrupt leader. Achilles is the height of competence, but and because of the corruption of the political structure, he refuses to play the game. And what's more, he's absolutely right about the leadership being terrible. There are other competent actors, more responsible and mature actors among the Greeks -- Diomedes, Odysseus, and others -- who stay in the game, but ultimately, the only way to victory -- a victory that can't be had without paying a terrible price -- is for everybody to get over themselves, put their ego's aside, and do their best. The Iliad is not romantic about war. Everybody suffers and loses horribly. It reads quite fatalistically to me. Wars happen because the gods toy with us. And whatever you might think of Julian Jaynes theory of the development of consciousness -- I bet when you're in a war, that's exactly what it feels like -- the gods toying with you. The quotes are from the Robert Fagles translation of the Iliad -- which I like very much. He's clean and fast and readable preserving the adventure story quality in his translations of the Odyssey, the Iliad, and the Aeneid. And you can get a Kindle edition of the Iliad for, I kid you not, .60 cents. Can you even get a soda out of a soda machine for that anymore? Go buy it. You're swimming in Western Culture, might as well take a few pains to understand it. Emily Wilson's translation of the Odyssey is also really good. And she's working on a translation of the Iliad. But if you've the impulse to dip into the Illiad Maybe don't wait. Because right now it feels like the gods are toying with us all, all the time. Get full access to How It's Written by Patrick E. McLean at patrickemclean.substack.com/subscribe

The greatest of the Greek warriors in Greek mythology, Achilles was the son of the sea goddess, Thetis, and a mortal king, Peleus. Fate foretold of Achilles' glory on the battlefield, but in chasing that glory, he was destined to live a brief but celebrated life. His story has been interpreted and retold countless times, with the Homeric epic poem, The Iliad, being the most detailed account of his achievements.

Trojan War Part 1 of 4. In this episode I cover the events that led up to the great saga known as The Trojan War. Subjects covered: The Marriage of Thetis and Peleus; The Judgment of Paris.

“Sing, O muse, of the rage of Achilles, son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans.” We're here. The culmination of a dozen episodes and twice as many stories has led to this. Achilles. Helen. Agamemnon. Menelaus. Hector. Odysseus. There's a reason these names are still with us after thousands of years. This is the story of the Trojan War. The creature is pretty much the opposite of an epic, brutal war. It's the not-epic, not-intimidating little Tofu boy! The episode post with the listening list: https://www.mythpodcast.com/14142/177a-trojan-war-rage/ The membership: https://www.mythpodcast.com/membership -- Sponsors: Squarespace: Head to Squarespace.com/MYTHS for a free trial.- And when you’re ready to launch, use the offer code MYTHS to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Check out Best Fiends, the 5-star rated mobile puzzle game, on the Apple App Store or Google Play! Looking for another side of Vegas? Visit Aria.com for more. -- Music: “Darkened Treeline” by Blue Dot Sessions “Throughput” by Blue Dot Sessions “Roadside Bunkhouse” by Blue Dot Sessions “Illa Villardo” by Blue Dot Sessions “Only Lara” by Blue Dot Sessions “Pedalrider” by Blue Dot Sessions “Late Night Reading” by Blue Dot Sessions

The same night Leda is raped by swan Zeus, she lies with her husband King Tyndaraeus, and of course becomes pregnant by both men. When she gives birth, she ends up laying eggs, which is exactly how divine beastiality works. From the eggs she lays are born her children, Helen, Clytemnestra, Castor and Pollux. Helen, most beautiful woman in the world, is wed to Menelaus after the Oath of Tyndaraeus, but after Aphrodite promises Prince of Troy, Paris, the most beautiful woman in the world at the Judgment of Paris, he sets sail to claim Helen for himself. The ensuing fray is the stuff of an entire epic cycle, and kicks off the long and grueling Trojan War. At the Trojan War, we meet Achilles, legendary warrior and child of Thetis and Peleus, raised by centaur Chiron on Mt Pelion.  Also, hottest man alive. Click here for important photos of Achilles. Click here for important photos of Hector. Click here to learn why we have Troy to thank for Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. 

In this lecture we discuss: the wedding of Peleus and Thetis, the Apple of Eris, and the Judgment of Paris. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/alexander-schmid9/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/alexander-schmid9/support

In his classic novel Slaughterhouse Five, about four-dimensional alien beings and a protagonist that has come unstuck in time, Kurt Vonnegut describes death as 'violet light and a hum.' The state of absorptive consciousness has been associated with the color violet, and with the sound of the hum, in many cultures around the world for many thousands of years. In this episode, we look at the relationship of the trance state to this place of the violet hum, exploring Zen koans, Greek myths, and Tantric visions of consciousness to get there. Features interview clips with mythologist Joseph Sansonese, author of The Body of Myth.Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/theemeraldpodcast)

SLITHER HITHER Weirdos and Witches, here's a conversation with Media Magician, Occult Youtuber and Paranormal Detective ROBERT A. POWELL!

In dieser Folge geht es um Paris, Helena, Menelaos, Agamemnon, Aias 1, Aias 2, Idomeneus, Diomedes, Palamedes, Odysseus, Agamemnon, Peleus, Thetis, Achill, Artemis, Poseidon, Chryseis, Apoll, Patroklos und Hector.

In dieser Folge geht es um Peleus, Thetis, Hera, Pallas Athene, Aphrodite, Eris, Helena, Tyndareos, Idomeneus, Diomedes, Palamedes, Nestor, Menelaos, Agamemnon, Odysseus, Penelope, Ikarus, Zeus und Paris.

Paul and Sarah gear up for the epic Trojan War by setting up the Prehistory of Peleus and the Judgement of Paris. Featuring the delights of an HBO series, gratuitous sex and nudity. Visit www.dragonwagonshop.com for awesome Mythunderstood shirts and mugs! Mythunderstood is a part of the Dragon Wagon Radio independent podcast network. Learn more at www.dragonwagonradio.com  

It’s the most famous war of history and mythology, but there’s more to the story of the Trojan War than the war itself. Peleus marries the nymph Thetis, and their wedding is a s**tshow. Paris and Achilles are born. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: The Greek Myths by Robin Waterfield. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The beginning of the story of Jason and his legendary Argonauts doesn't start with Jason, but with Zeus being...well, Zeus, and kidnapping an unsuspecting woman. There is a dragon, a giant bronze robot, and court intrigue, leading to some familiar names coming back to help Jason travel to a faraway land and obtain the golden fleece. Those names include Hercules, Theseus, Laertes (father of Odysseus), Autolycus, Peleus (the father of Achilles), Augeus (with the legendarily dirty stables), and more. It's the biggest meetup of everyone we've met so far...well, everyone that isn't in Hades (Sisyphus) tied to a rock (Prometheus) or wandering blind through a plain (Bellerophon). The creature looks so much like a normal person it's uncanny. I mean, he looks like a normal person once you get past his humorously big ears, nose, and hands. And his gray skin...that sometimes glows. Ok, he looks nothing like a normal person. Sponsors: Check out new sponsor Harry's Razors for a free shave kit (just pay shipping, but that's only like $3): http://www.harrys.com/ and use the code MYTHS and checkout. Like listening to stories by professionals who don't fumble the pronunciations constantly? Check out http://www.audible.com/myths Say "hi" on Twitter! Say "good day" on Facebook! Music: "The Longshoreman" by Blue Dot Sessions "Spell" by Rolemusic "Poor Wayfaring Stranger" by Podington Bear "One Dirty Sleeve" by Blue Dot Sessions "Micolai" by Blue Dot Sessions "Haena" by Blue Dot Sessions "Discovery Harbor" by Blue Dot Sessions "Space (Outro)" by Andy G. Cohen "Castle Theme" by Visager

Diesmal spanne ich den großen Bogen: von antiker Mythologie zu moderner Internet Folklore. Als Zeus Thetis und Peleus vermählt und zu dem Anlass ein rauschendes Fest feiert ahnt noch niemand, dass das nicht nur den Anlass für einen der großen Kriege der Antike stiften wird sondern auch gleichzeitig die Ausgangserzählung einer Internetreligion namens Diskordianismus geboren ist.

Repose 050 - gentle reflection 1. Spirit Ale / Krusseldorf 0:00 2. Slow This Bird Down / Boards of Canada 5:20 3. Immunity / Jon Hopkins 10:16 4. Near Light / Ólafur Arnalds 19:20 5. Flood (Ambient Two) / The American Dollar 22:28 6. Wet the Day / The Album Leaf 25:16 7. Discovery / Benn Jordan 30:16 8. Dreamers / Suduaya & Erot 32:56 9. Amnesia / Fingers In The Noise 40:04 10. Peleus and Thetis / Koan 47:08   11. Heathaze Days (Kit remix) / Audioglider 56:32

Wir befinden uns mitten in der Vorgeschichte zum Trojanischen Krieg: Eine wichtige Station dabei ist die Hochzeit zwischen Peleus und Thetis. Zu dieser ganz besonderen Hochzeit sind alle Götter eigeladen - bis auf eine Gottheit. Das verspricht, spannend zu werden.