Podcasts about women in politics

Women have been shaping American politics since its beginning — organizing movements, expanding rights, and redefining leadership at every turn. But over the past decade, that long struggle has collided with a new wave of visibility and backlash. ⁠Emerge is now recruiting the class of 2026⁠ From the raw sexism of 2016, to the record-breaking “pink wave” of 2018, to the post-2024 debate over whether women are even electable, the story of women in politics reveals how deeply gender still defines power in America. In this episode, A'shanti Gholar, President and CEO of Emerge, traces that arc — and explains why women aren't stepping back. She calls it the Kamala Effect: the surge of women still running, organizing, and leading despite unprecedented hostility. We talk about what that resilience looks like — from local campaigns and judicial races to the national fight for representation — and what it means to “lock in” as we head into the next wave of elections. Emerge came directly out of Kamala Harris' first run for office in the early 2000s. Watch ⁠here⁠. If you've ever wondered whether women can still change the direction of American democracy, this episode is both a roadmap and a signal to lock in. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Tudor sits down with Steve Hilton to break down how decades of Democrat dominance have driven California into decline—from skyrocketing homelessness and stifling regulations to election integrity concerns and failed disaster recovery. Hilton explains why California’s collapse is a warning for the rest of America and outlines how conservatives can fight back, rebuild communities, and make the Golden State thrive again. They also discuss the growing influence of women in politics and why grassroots Republican engagement is key to real change. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com Learn more about Steve Hilton's Campaign Check out the sponsors for this episode Luma Nutrition Ruff GreensSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Someone's front running the markets. We take a look at the Dems Bench of female politicians. Gaza peace deal and more. Lots of porches coming up. www.porchtour.com SPONSORS: Sheath.com Yokratom.com

Someone's front running the markets. We take a look at the Dems Bench of female politicians. Gaza peace deal and more. Lots of porches coming up. www.porchtour.comSPONSORS:Sheath.comYokratom.com

As Canada's environment minister in 2015, Catherine McKenna emerged as a leading voice in the climate debate. She also faced some of the unprecedented and disturbing abuse that was aimed at public officials, and became an advocate for the voice of women in politics. McKenna is still a force at the centre of Canada's climate discussion and the global one. She talks to Wonk host Amanda Lang about the urgent economics of climate change, her new memoir and why Canada needs to deal with rising polarization.

Catherine McKenna joined me in person for a live recording of this episode at the Naval Club of Toronto here in our east end. We discussed her new book ‘Run Like a Girl', lessons learned from her six years in federal politics, the reality of political harassment, the tension between party loyalty and telling it like it is, and why we should be wary of “grand bargains” on climate with oil and gas companies.Catherine served as Environment and Climate Change Minister from 2015-2019 and Infrastructure Minister from 2019-2021. She's now the founder and CEO of Climate and Nature Solutions and chairs a UN expert group advising the Secretary General on net zero commitments.Read further:Run Like A Girl - Catherine McKenna (2025)https://www.catherinemckenna.caChapters:00:00 Introduction & Run Like A Girl Book05:32 Lessons from Politics: Hard Work & Balance08:52 Climate Barbie & Political Harassment15:26 Running for Office in Ottawa Centre23:17 Being a Team Player vs. Speaking Truth32:05 Leaving Politics40:30 Climate Policy & the Oil & Gas “Grand Bargain”48:24 Supporting Others in Politics52:56 Carbon Pricing Communication Failures59:13 Gender Balance, Feminism & Cabinet01:04:04 Final Thoughts & ClosingTranscript:Nate Erskine-Smith00:02 - 00:38Well, thank you everyone for joining. This is a live recording of the Uncommon's podcast, and I'm lucky to be joined by Catherine McKenna, who has a very impressive CV. You will know her as the former Environment Minister. She is also the founder and CEO of Climate and Nature Solutions, a consultancy focused on all things environment and nature protection. And you may or may not know, but she's also the chair of a UN expert group that gives advice to the Secretary General on net zero solutions. So thank you for coming to Beaches East York.Catherine McKenna00:38 - 00:56It's great to be here. Hello, everyone. And special shout out to the guy who came from, all the way from Bowmanville. That's awesome. Anyone from Hamilton, that's where I'm originally found. All right. Nice, we got a shout out for Hamilton. Woo-hoo.Nate Erskine-Smith00:57 - 01:19So I ran down a few things you've accomplished over the years, but you are also the author of Run Like a Girl. I was at, you mentioned a book launch last night here in Toronto, but I attended your book launch in Ottawa. And you can all pick up a book on the way out. But who did you write this book for?Catherine McKenna01:21 - 02:58So, I mean, this book has been a long time in the making. It's probably been five years. It was a bit of a COVID project. And you'll see, it's good, I've got my prop here, my book. But you'll see it's not a normal kind of book. So it has a lot of images of objects and of, you know, pictures, pictures of me getting ready to go to the state visit dinner that was hosted by Obama while I'm trying to finalize the text on climate. So it's got like random things in it, but it's intended for a much broader audience. It's really intended to inspire women and girls and young people. And I think that's particularly important right now because I work on climate and I think it's really hard. Do people here care about climate? Yes, I imagine here you care about climate. I mean, I actually think most Canadians do because they understand the wildfires and they see the smoke and people are being evacuated from communities and you can't get insurance if you're in a flood zone. But I do think in particular we need to bolster spirits. But also it's a book, it's really about how to make change. It's not like people think it's like a political memoir. So I think, you know, fancy people in politics will look at the end of the book to see if their name is there and maybe be disappointed if it isn't. But it's not really that kind of book. It's like I was a kid from Hamilton. I didn't want to be a politician. That wasn't my dream when I grew up. I wanted to go to the Olympics for swimming. And spoiler alert, I did not make the Olympic team, but I went to Olympic trials.Nate Erskine-Smith02:59 - 02:59You're close.Catherine McKenna03:00 - 04:05I was, well, closest, closest, but, but it wasn't, I mean, you know, life is a journey and that wasn't, it wasn't sad that I didn't make it, but I think it's just to hopefully for people to think I can make change too. Like I didn't come as a fully formed politician that was, you know, destined to be minister for the environment and climate change. So in particular for women and young people who are trying to figure out how to make change, I think it's a little bit my story. I just tried to figure it out. And one day I decided the best way to make change was to go into politics and get rid of Stephen Harper. That was my goal. He was my inspiration, yes, because we needed a new government. And yeah, so I really, really, really am trying to reach a much broader audience because I think we often are politicians talking to a very narrow group of people, often very partisan. And that's not my deal. My deal is we need everyone to be making change in their own way. And I want people who are feeling like maybe it's a bit hard working on climate or in politics or on democracy or human rights that you too can make change.Nate Erskine-Smith04:06 - 05:17And you were holding it up. I mean, it's a bit of a scrapbook. You've described it. And it's also honest. I mean, there was some media coverage of it that was sort of saying, oh, you said this about Trudeau, calling him a loofer. And there's a certain honesty about I've lived in politics and I'm going to call it like it is. But what I find most interesting is not the sort of the gotcha coverage after the fact. It's when you go to write something, you said you're not a writer at the launch that I saw in Ottawa, but you obviously sat down and were trying to figure out what are the lessons learned. You've had successes, you've had failures, and you're trying to impart these lessons learned. You mentioned you sort of were going down that road a little bit of what you wanted to impart to people, but you've had six years in politics at the upper echelon of decision-making on a really important file. I want to get to some of the failures because we're living through some of them right now, I think. Not of your doing, of conservative doing, unfortunately. But what would you say are the lessons learned that you, you know, as you're crystallizing the moments you've lived through, what are those lessons?Catherine McKenna05:19 - 07:12It's funny because the lessons I learned actually are from swimming in a way that actually you got to do the work. That, you know, you set a long-term goal and, you know, whatever that goal is, whatever you hope to make change on. And then you get up and you do the work. And then you get up the next morning and you do the work again. And sometimes things won't go your way. But you still get up the next morning. And I think it's important because, like, you know, look, I will talk, I'm sure, about carbon pricing. We lost the consumer carbon price. There's a chapter. It's called Hard Things Are Hard. I'm also, like, really into slogans. I used to be the captain of the U of T swim team. So I feel like my whole life is like a Nike ad or something. Hard things are hard. We can do it. But yeah, I mean, I think that the change is incremental. And sometimes in life, you're going to have hard times. But the other thing I want people to take from it is that, you know, sometimes you can just go dancing with your friends, right? Or you can call up your book club. I would sometimes have hard days in politics. And I was like, oh, gosh, that was like, what? happened. So I'd send an email, it would say to my book club. So if you have book clubs, book clubs are a good thing. Even if you don't always read the book, that would be me. But I would be SOS, come to my house. And I'd be like, all I have is like chips and wine, but I just need to hang out with regular people. And I think that's also important. Like, you know, life is life. Like, you know, you got to do the work if you're really trying to make change. But some days are going to be harder and sometimes you're just trying to hang in there and I had you know I had I have three kids one of them they're older now one of them is actually manning the the booth selling the books but you know when you're a mom too like you know sometimes you're going to focus on that so I don't know I think my my lessons are I I'm too gen x to be like you've got to do this and INate Erskine-Smith07:12 - 07:16learned this and I'm amazing no that's not writing a graduation speech I'm not I'm not writing aCatherine McKenna07:16 - 08:43graduation speech and I don't know that you know the particular path I took is what anyone else is going to do I was going to I went to Indonesia to do a documentary about Komodo dragons because my roommate asked me to so that led me to go back to Indonesia which led me to work for UN peacekeeping and peacekeeping mission in East Timor but I think it's also like take risks if you're a young person Like, don't, people will tell you all the time how you should do things. And I, you know, often, you know, doubted, should I do this, or I didn't have enough confidence. And I think that's often, women often feel like that, I'll say. And, you know, at the end, sometimes you are right. And it's okay if your parents don't like exactly what you're doing. Or, you know, people say you should stay in corporate law, which I hated. Or, you know, so I don't know if there's so many lessons as a bit as, you know, one, you got to do the work to, you know, listen to what you really want to do. That doesn't mean every day you're going to get to do what you want to do. But, you know, if you're really passionate about working human rights, work on human rights, like figure out a way to do it and then also have some fun. Like life can feel really heavy. And I felt that during COVID. I think sometimes now after, you know, looking at, you know, social media and what Donald Trump has done or threatened to do, it can feel hard. So I think it's also OK to to just check out and have fun.Nate Erskine-Smith08:44 - 08:46I like it. Well, there aren't lessons, but here are three important lessons.Catherine McKenna08:48 - 08:50I am a politician. It's good. Well, it's OK.Nate Erskine-Smith08:50 - 09:57You mentioned a few times really writing this book in a way to young people and specifically to young women to encourage them to to make a difference and to get involved. and yet politics, we were both drawn to politics, I think for similar reasons, and it is one of the most important ways to make a difference, and I wanna get to you. There are other ways to make a difference, of course, but there's a bit of a tension, I think, in what you're writing, because you're writing this encouragement to make a difference, and politics is so important, and on the flip side, you document all sorts of different ways that politics has been truly awful, the absurdity of, I knew the ridiculous idiocy of Climate Barbie, but I didn't actually appreciate that you had these bizarre men coming to your house to take selfies in front of your house. That's just a next-level awfulness. And so how do you, when you're talking to young people, to encourage them on the one hand, but also you don't want to shield them from the awfulness, and we all want to make politics a more civil, better place, but these are problematic tensions.Catherine McKenna09:58 - 10:42Yeah, I mean, look, I thought a lot about what I wanted to say about like the hate and abuse that I got, but also my staff got. I mean, they come to my office and start screaming. And of course, everything's videotaped. So and, you know, there were incidents at my house. And so I first of all, I believe in being honest. Like, I just believe in it. I believe that people deserve the truth. But also in this case, I wasn't looking for sympathy. I'm out of politics. I don't need sympathy, but we need change. And so I think the only way, one of the only ways we get changed, and you know how hard it is to get policy, like online harm legislation. We still have not gotten online harm. In a way, it's kind of unfathomable that we can't just get it. Like, we know that online.Nate Erskine-Smith10:42 - 10:43C5 happened real quick, though. Don't worry.Catherine McKenna10:43 - 10:43Okay.Catherine McKenna10:44 - 10:48Well, luckily, I'm not in politics anymore. I'm not in politics anymore.Catherine McKenna10:48 - 11:48I just do my thing. But I do think that by documenting this, I'm hoping that people will read it and say, well, wait a minute, that's not OK, because that's how we will get the support to get legislation to make sure that we hold social media platforms accountable. that's the way that we will be able to get people to say to politicians, you cannot go and do personal attacks and then go spread them online to get to get clicks. And that we can get proper protection for politicians, which I don't love, but actually we need that sometimes. So I think that it is important to say that I don't want people to feel down because I have multiple purposes in the book. Like people are talking about this. And I've had a number of my female politician friends saying thank you for stepping up because now people are taking it more seriously because they're like wow that was bad like climate barbie sounds kind of quaint now but climate barbie led to a whole bunch of things that led to a bunch of things that led to rcmp finally being outside my house whichNate Erskine-Smith11:49 - 12:05wasn't amazing but at least i felt safe but it's one thing to say quaint but it normalizes a misogyny that is that is awful right yeah so it's and it might it might not be a direct threat it might not be taking a selfie outside of your home which is an implicit threat but it is it's normalizing an awfulness in our politics.Catherine McKenna12:06 - 12:10Yeah, I mean, it is. From other politicians. It was a former minister in Harper's CabinetNate Erskine-Smith12:10 - 12:11who started it, right?Catherine McKenna12:11 - 12:21It was, or at least amplified it. We'll go there, like the climate Barbie. Okay, so climate Barbie is, it's quite weird because now my kids are like, well, Barbie went to the moon.Catherine McKenna12:21 - 12:22Barbie was an asteroid.Catherine McKenna12:23 - 14:57Quinn is here, like, you know, Barbies are, like, you know, not that big a deal. The thing is, if you are my age, if anyone here is 50 or over, I think you're pretty clear when someone who's 50 or over calls you climate barbie there's a lot going on in that and i said nothing like i was actually baptized climate barbie very early on um by a rage farming alt-right outlet they are not media and that's what they do this is their game they go after progressives to make money actually um for clickbait but i didn't do anything for so long um and i guess my team was lovely and i had a lot of really awesome women and they're like just don't do it because you'll they'll know that you know they can go after you um and so i'm at the un actually it's like seven years ago i was just at the un last week yes i heard donald trump but i was there to work on climate but it was the same thing it was the end of a really long day i was going back to the hotel i was actually in the hotel lobby some crabby hotel with my team and i look at my phone i was like why is my twitter exploded what has happened and then i see the climate barbie tweet and i said to my team. I said, okay, I'm sorry. I'm just going to have to deal with this situation. And they knew, like, I'm, when I say I'm dealing with it, I'm going to deal with it. And so I, I, you know, I'm a lawyer by training. So I, you know, try, I am Irish. I've got the hot headed side and then I've got the lawyer rational side. So I was like, okay, what am I going to say? There's going to call it out, but in a way that isn't falling into the trap of just calling names. So I said, it's in this book. I'm not going to get exactly right, but it was something like, would you use that kind of language with your girlfriend, wife, mother? You're not chasing women out of politics. Your sexism is going to chase women, whatever it was. And what was so interesting about this, and this is why in this book, I do the same thing, is that it went viral. And I wasn't trying to do this. I was trying to shame him so he would stop. And people like would stop me in the streets. And it would be, you know, conservative men, they'd be like, I'm a conservative, I'm ashamed. This is not acceptable. And I really appreciate this. This is how you stand up to bullies. And I thought, oh, this is important that we do this every once in a while, because often as a woman, you're kind of supposed to take it because otherwise you look a bit weak. And I realized actually the power is other people saying that this is not okay. So I actually appreciate that you call it out. You will see in my book. I will just let me see if I can find it. I also, like, kind of bizarrely, a bunch of, like, men would send me Barbies with really mean notes.Catherine McKenna14:57 - 15:04So they'd go to a store, buy a Barbie, then go and find the address of my constituency office or my ministerial office,Catherine McKenna15:05 - 15:32and then send it with a note that they personally addressed. Like, that's kind of weird. So anyway, the funny thing is, I guess, is it funny? I don't know. It's just it. There's a Barbie. This is actually a picture of one of the Barbies that was sent. We would normally put our Barbies in the Christmas toy drive. I guess we figured might as well give it to, you know, kids that would like the Barbie. But I found one when I was cleaning up my office. And I was like, oh, I'm going to just keep that. I'm going to like, you know, just keep that. So you can...Nate Erskine-Smith15:32 - 15:33No one's sending you Barbies.Catherine McKenna15:33 - 15:38I have a book of just... No one's sending you Barbies. Glorious things that people have sent, like written notes that people have sent over the yearsNate Erskine-Smith15:38 - 16:33where you're just like, this is the most bizarre thing to have received. And, you know, in 10 years in politics, the scrapbook grows. So speaking of, you mentioned Harper being an inspiration of sorts. You also have said, I'm just a regular person who wanted to make a change. And politics, you also said, I didn't want to be a politician. I want to be an Olympian. But you also document Sheila Copps as someone you looked up to. You mentioned your dad being very political. And Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the person in politics who was a bit of an inspiration for your dad and family. And so Harper, obviously, a motivating force for me as well in the lead up to 2015. I think there's a whole class of us in the lead up to 2015 that wanted a different kind of politics. How did you get on the ballot, though? It was you were a lawyer and you thought, no, this is this particular moment. Were people tapping on the shoulder and saying, come on, Catherine, now's the time?Catherine McKenna16:37 - 18:52Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a funny story because women often have to be asked multiple times. The thing is, I'd already been asked before 2015. And it's kind of funny because I saw my friend last night who's part of the story. So when Stéphane Dion was running, I went back to Hamilton. So that's where my parents, my dad passed away. But that's where my parents lived. And I was walking up my street. And the head of the riding association was like, would you like to run? So the election, I think, was already called. I'm pregnant. I live in Ottawa. And so I was like, oh, maybe I should think about that. So I asked my friend. He's like, well, I guess you won't have to knock on doors. So that was my first time getting asked. I did not run then. But I ran a charity that did human rights, rule of law, and good governance. I'd started this charity after having lived abroad with a friend. And, I mean, it was like banging your head on a wall in the pre-Harper times. We were trying to support human rights. We were working with indigenous youth in Canada focused on reconciliation. I cared about climate change. I was like, all of these things I'm trying to do outside of the system are a complete and utter waste of time. So I thought, OK, we've got to get rid of the government. So that's my theory of change now. My theory of change was create this charitable organization, and it's just not getting the impact. So I decided I was going to run, but I was in Ottawa Centre. So I don't know if many of you know Ottawa Centre. It's actually where Parliament's located, so it's great. It's a bike ride to work. But it was Paul Dewar, who was a really beloved NDP member of parliament. His mother had been mayor. And I really like Paul, too. But the reality is you've got to win, right? So you've got to win enough seats so you can form government. So I ran for two years. And it's interesting because I just decided to run. I canvassed, and so maybe the woman, this will maybe resonate a little bit. So I was like, okay, I really want to run, but I kind of need permission. I don't know why I thought I needed permission, but I did. So I went the rounds. And I like the Liberal Party, but it can be like an inside club. And I wasn't from Ottawa Centre. And so I think people were like a bit perplexed. They're like, we're kind of keeping this riding for a star candidate. And I was like, okay, what the heck? Who's a star?Catherine McKenna18:52 - 18:53Like, what's a star candidate?Catherine McKenna18:53 - 19:07Is that like a male lawyer who gives a lot of money to the Liberal Party? Like, I was like, seriously, what is a star candidate? Yeah, that's what it is. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. I don't know. You are a male. I ran when I was 29 and had no money.Nate Erskine-Smith19:07 - 19:09That was a setup. That was a setup.Catherine McKenna19:09 - 20:15No, it wasn't. Okay. Anyway, we'll just blow by that one. You're a little bit unusual. Okay. So we'll take you out of that. But anyway, it's quite funny because then I was like, and then people were like, actually, you should just get the party to go get you another riding that's winnable. So I was like, okay, on the one hand, you need a star candidate here for this great riding that, but on the flip side, no one can win. So I was like, okay, I don't really know. So I looked at, like, you know, I'm not a fool. I was a competitive swimmer. I want to win. So I looked at the numbers, and I realized, like, you know, if Justin Trudeau was then leader, if we did super well, we were in third place, and it was two years out. But if I worked really hard and we did super well, there was a shot at winning. So I just decided I'm going to run. And I got the chapters called The New Girls Club. And then I had men supporting me. It was fine. But I literally had a lot of women who were just like, I don't know if you can win. This is kind of bonkers. You're doing it. But I'm going to step up and give you some money. I'm going to go help sell nominations. And at that point, you had to sell them. And no one wanted to buy a nomination.Catherine McKenna20:15 - 20:20People are like, I don't want to be a party. I want to join a party, especially a liberal party.Catherine McKenna20:22 - 21:04And so those of you who are thinking about politics, how do you win a nomination? I was trying to sell memberships and people weren't buying them. I was like, oh gosh, every night I'm going out, I've got these kids and I'm going out and talking to people. And I'm spending two hours and getting one or two nominations, people signing up. So I actually realized it was my kids' friends' mothers whose names I didn't know. I just knew their kids. And I think they were like, wow, we don't really know anyone that would go into politics. But we actually think you'd be pretty good. And your kids would kind of nice. And I don't know. I'll just sign up. I don't care.Catherine McKenna21:04 - 21:06And so it was actually really heartening.Catherine McKenna21:07 - 23:15And I will say, like, for all the bad of politics, and there is some bad for sure. And you will read about it in my book. That campaign for two years, like, we knocked on more than 100,000 doors. We had the highest voter turnout in the country. We had, I had my own rules. Like, I was like, we're going to do this in the way that I believe in. and you know some like some of it was following the bomb a snowflake model like you know we wanted to run hard but we also engaged kids and it wasn't like we had just like a kid area we would have kid canvases and I just felt important to me and we went to low income parts of the riding where some people said they're not going to vote or we went to university we went to university residents they're like they're not going to vote actually they turned out in strong numbers and I got a ton of volunteers who, and people that knew my name, because like someone who knows someone who knows someone. So it was great. But I will say like, that's the one thing about getting involved in politics. You may be here. I met a couple of you who said younger people who said you'd like to run. You can do it. You don't need permission. You're gonna have to hustle. You're gonna have to build your team. But this isn't an in club. And I do sometimes worry that politics feels like an in club and it shouldn't be that like we need everyone who wants to step up and get involved in however they want to get involved to be able to do that and so that's my lesson read that chapter hopefully you feel quite inspired and when I knocked on the last door I didn't know if I would win or not but I knew we'd left it all on the ice and I felt great like I was like we also have another woman who has run here it's Kelly is it Kelly who's run a couple times you know what it's like like you build a team. Now you were in a super hard riding. I do hope you run again. But it, it's just this feeling of doing something that matters and bringing people together in a common cause that is bigger than yourself. And it's about believing you can improve lives and you can tackle climate change. So that was a great I hope you read it and feel like you can do it too, if you want to run because you can, I will say you got to work hard. That is one of the most important thing doors gotNate Erskine-Smith23:15 - 23:36got a knock on doors well so i want to get back to though you were emphasizing one this idea of an insider culture but at the same time the need to have a really local presence and it was people who who were on the ground in the community who who ultimately helped get you over the finish line the nomination i mean here you know sandy's working the bar i went to high school with his kids andCatherine McKenna23:36 - 23:41he signed up in the nomination you got sandy and he got us a beer and and you got claire and fredNate Erskine-Smith23:41 - 24:44here who again i went i went to high school with their kids and they signed up in the nomination probably for joining the Liberal Party for the first time. And you go down the list, and there are people who are behind you locally. And in part, I think when you get started, now you go, okay, well, I know this person in the party, I know that person in the party, I've lived in the party for 12, 13 years. But I was 29 when I was starting to run the nomination. No one was tapping me on the shoulder and going, like, you're a star candidate, whatever that means, as you say. And so it does require that desire to say, no one has to ask me. I'm going to go do it and I'm going to build my own local team. But it also gets, I think, at another tension of who is your team? Because you say at one point, sometimes you need to be on the outside so you can push the inside to do more. And so you're on the outside now and you can be probably more honest in your assessment of things and more critical. I have tried, though, at times over the 10 years to play that same role in caucus.Catherine McKenna24:46 - 24:49What? Nate? I thought you were always all in on everything. Yeah, all in on everything.Nate Erskine-Smith24:50 - 25:32But it does get to this idea of team. It's like, be a team player, be a team player, be a team player. And the answer back is, well, who's your team? And yeah, sure, of course the team is the Liberal caucus, but the team is also people in Beaches of East York, the people who are knocking doors with the nomination, people who are knocking doors in the election. And they also want accountability. They also want the party and the government to be the best version of itself. And so do you find you were when you think back at the six years that you were in. I mean, cabinet's a different level of solidarity, obviously. But do you think it's possible to navigate that, you know, critical accountability role inside the tent? Or do you think it's essential as you are now to be outside to play that, you know, that that truth function?Catherine McKenna25:34 - 25:46I mean, that's a that's a really hard question because I mean, I'm a team person. I just sound like I was captain of a swim team. But that doesn't team. So it's different. Like, I'll just have to distinguish like being in cabinet.Catherine McKenna25:47 - 25:52Like you do have cabinet solidarity. But in cabinet, let me tell you, like I spoke up.Catherine McKenna25:52 - 26:50I like everyone didn't didn't always like it, but I felt like I had an obligation to just say things. And that was as much to myself as it was to anyone else. But then once you do that, you know, there is this view that then you stand with the team or else you leave cabinet. That is hard. That is hard. But it's probably less hard than being in caucus where you feel like you might have less influence on the issues. The one time I felt this was actually when I was out, but it was hard to do. And this is when I spoke up and I said I felt it was time for Justin Trudeau to step down, like to like have a leadership race to allow someone new to come in. And it was funny because I got like all these texts like and I was out. Right. So you think not such a big deal. But I got texts from people and like saying, who do you think you are? Like, you know, we're a liberal team. And I was like, OK, this is weird because I get team, but team doesn't equal cult.Nate Erskine-Smith26:52 - 26:52Welcome to my world.Catherine McKenna26:56 - 28:06Nate and me, are we exactly the same? Probably not exactly the same, but no, no. but I think it's true because I was like, well, wait a minute. We also owe it to, in that case, it was also like, we got to win. Are we going to just go? Is this the way it's going? We're just going to allow us to go down even though it's clear that the wheels have come off the cart. And that was hard. But I thought about it, and I was just so worried about the other option. Like Pierre Paulyab, that was too much. And I was like, okay, if I can make a bit of a difference, I will take a hit. It's fine. But I like, look, there is it is really hard to navigate that. And I mean, obviously, if it's super chaotic and no one's supporting things, I mean, the government will fall and you can't get agendas through. There does have to be some leeway to say things like that is important. It's that line and the tension. And I know you've you've felt it. And, you know, we haven't always been on the same side of those things, probably. But that is hard. That is hard. And I don't know that there's any easy answer to that because you can't always be in opposition because you can't govern.Catherine McKenna28:07 - 28:09So I would actually put that to you, Nate.Catherine McKenna28:10 - 28:38No, but I think it's an interesting question for you because, as I said, I was in cabinet, so it was a little bit easier. I mean, you literally have to vote with the government. But for you, there were times that you decided to, you know, be your own voice and not necessarily, well, not when I say not necessarily, not support, you know, the government's position. like how did you make decisions on that like how do you decide this is the moment i'm going to do that sometimes i care but i don't care as much or maybe i've done it you know a few times and iNate Erskine-Smith28:38 - 31:51should stay together like how did you how do you make that choice so i i think that uh trudeau and running for his leadership one thing that drew me to him actually he was calling for generational renewal at the time which which appealed to me but he was also talking about doing politics differently and whether that promise was entirely realized or not you know you lived around the cabinet table you you know more than me in some ways but I would say the promise of freer votes was incredibly appealing to me as the kind of politics that I that I want to see because I do think you you want that grassroots politics you want people to be it sounds trite now but that idea of being voices for the community in Ottawa not the other way around but there is a there's a truth to that. And so how do you get there and also maintain unity? And I think they navigated that quite well when in the leadership and then it became part of our platform in 2015, he articulated this idea of, well, we're going to have whipped votes on platform promises. Do I agree with everything in the platform? No, but I'll bite my tongue where I disagree and I'll certainly vote with the government. Two, on charter rights and human rights issues. And then three, and this is more fraught but on confidence matters more fraught i say because there were moments where they made certain things confidence matters that i didn't think they should have but you know that was that was the deal and that was the deal that you know you make with constituents it's the deal that you make with with members of the liberal party beyond that i think it's more about how you go about disagreeing and then it's making sure that you've given notice making sure that you've explained your reasons i i've i've uh i've joked i've been on many different whips couches but uh andy leslie i thought was the best whip in part because he would say why are you doing this and you'd run through the reasons he goes well have you have you engaged with them like do they know yeah well have they tried to convince you otherwise yeah and but here are the reasons okay well sounds like you thought about it kid get in my office and it was a there was a you could tell why he was an effective general because he he built respect as between you uh whereas you know the other approach is you have to vote with us. But that's not the deal, and here's why. And it's a less effective approach from a whip. But I would say how you, you know, I've used the example of electoral reform. I wasn't going and doing media saying Justin Trudeau is an awful person for breaking this promise, and, you know, he's, this is the most cynical thing he could have possibly have done, and what a bait and switch. I wasn't burning bridges and making this personal. I was saying, you know, he doesn't think a referendum is a good idea. Here's why I think there's a better forward and here's why I think we here's a way of us maintaining that promise and here's why I don't think we should have broken the promise and you know different people in the liberal party of different views I think the way we go about disagreeing and creating space for reasonable disagreement within the party outside the party but especially within the party really matters and then sometimes you just have to say there's an old Kurt Vonnegut line it's we are who we pretend to be so be careful who you pretend to be and I think it's double each room politics and so you know you want to wake up after politics and think I did the thing I was supposed to do when I was there. And sometimes that means being a good team player, and other times it means standing up and saying what you think. Okay, but back to questions for you.Catherine McKenna31:52 - 31:57Do you like that one? That was pretty good. Just put Nate on the hot speed for a little bit.Nate Erskine-Smith31:59 - 33:01You can ask me questions, too. Okay, so I was going to ask you why not politics, but you've sort of said, I've heard you say you felt that you were done, and you did what you came to do. But I want to push back on that a little bit, because you did a lot of things, especially around climate. First climate plan, you put carbon pricing in place, a number of measures. I mean, that gets all the attention, and we can talk about the walk back on it. But there's stringent methane rules, there were major investments in public transit, there's clean electricity. You run down the list of different things that we've worked towards in advance. And then we talk about consumer carbon pricing, but the industrial carbon piece is huge. Having said that, do you worry you left at a time when the politics were toxic, but not as toxic as they are today around climate and certainly around carbon pricing? And do you feel like you left before you had made sure the gains were going to be protected?Catherine McKenna33:02 - 33:11I think the lesson I learned, you can never protect gains, right? Like, you're just going to always have to fight. And, like, I can't, like, when am I going to be in politics? So I'm, like, 120?Catherine McKenna33:12 - 33:12Like, sorry.Catherine McKenna33:14 - 34:43And it is really true. Like, when I, the weird thing, when, so I'd been through COVID. I had three teenagers, one who, as I mentioned, is here. And I really thought hard. Like, I turned 50. And, like, I'm not someone who's, like, big birthdays. It's, like, this existential thing. I wasn't sad. It was, like, whatever. But I was, like, okay, I'm 50 now. Like, you know, there's what do I want to do at 50? I really forced myself to do it. And I really felt like, remember, I got into politics to make change. So I just thought, what is the best way to make change? And I really felt it wasn't, I felt personally for myself at this point, it wasn't through politics. I really wanted to work globally on climate because I really felt we'd done a lot. And I did think we kind of landed a carbon price. and we'd gone through two elections and one at the Supreme Court. So I felt like, okay, people will keep it. We will be able to keep it. So I just felt that there were other things I wanted to do, and I'd really come when I – you know, I said I would leave when I had done what I'd come to do, and that was a really important promise to myself. And I really want to spend time with my kids. Like, you give up a lot in politics, and my kids were going off to university, and I'd been through COVID, and if any parents – anyone been through COVID, But if you're a parent of teenage kids, that was a pretty bleak time. I'd be like, do you guys want to play another game? And they're like, oh my God.Audience Q34:43 - 34:44As if, and then they go to their bed.Catherine McKenna34:44 - 35:15They'd be like, I'm doing school. And I'd be like, as if you're doing school, you're online. Probably playing video game. But what am I going to do, right? Let's go for another walk. They're like, okay, we'll go for a walk if we can go get a slushie. And I was like, I'm going to rot their teeth. And my dad was a dentist. So I was like, this is bad. But this is like, we're engaging for 20 minutes. Like it was really hard. And so I actually, when I made the decision, like, but the counter, the funny thing that is so hilarious now to me is I almost, I was like, I'm not going to leave because if I leave, those haters will thinkCatherine McKenna35:15 - 35:16they drove me out.Nate Erskine-Smith35:16 - 35:18So I was like, okay, I'm going to stay.Catherine McKenna35:18 - 35:20And like, it was bizarre. I was like, okay.Nate Erskine-Smith35:20 - 35:21I don't want to stay when I'm staying. I don't want to stay.Catherine McKenna35:21 - 35:46I don't think this is the most useful point of my, like, you know, part of what I, you know, this is this useful, but I'm going to stay because these random people that I don't care about are actually going to say, ha ha, I chased her out. So then I was like, okay, well, let's actually be rational here and, you know, an adult. So I made the decision. And I actually felt really zen. Like, it was quite weird after I did it, where it was actually politicians who would do it to me. They'd be like, are you okay?Catherine McKenna35:47 - 35:49And I'd be like, I'm amazing.Catherine McKenna35:49 - 36:05What are you talking about? And, like, you know, it was as if leaving politics, I would not be okay. And then people would say, like, is it hard not to have stuff? I was like, I'm actually free. I can do whatever I want. I can go to a microphone now and say whatever. Probably people will care a lot less. But I don't.Nate Erskine-Smith36:05 - 36:07You can do that in politics sometimes too.Catherine McKenna36:08 - 36:08Yes, Nate.Nate Erskine-Smith36:09 - 36:09Yes, Nate.Catherine McKenna36:09 - 39:32We know about that. Yeah, it was just. So anyway, I left politics. I was not. I do think that what I always worried about more than actually the haters thinking they won. It was that women and women and girls would think I love politics because of all the hate. And once again, I'll just repeat it because it's very important to me. The reason I say the things that happened to me in the book is not because I need sympathy. I don't. We do need change. And I felt when I left, I said I would support women and girls in politics. One of the ways I am doing it is making sure that it is a better place than what I had to put up with. Now, sadly, it's not because it's actually worse now. I hear from counselors. I hear from school board trustees. I hear from all sorts of women in politics, but also men, however you identify. Like, it's bad out there. And it's not just online. It is now offline. People think they can shout at you and scream at you and take a video of it, like put it in the dark web or wherever that goes. So, you know, that's bad. But I feel like, you know, people are like, oh, we got to stop that. And that's what's important. There's a nice letter here. So as I said, I have like random things in here. But there's this lovely gentleman named Luigi. I haven't talked about Luigi yet, have I? So I was at the airport and this gentleman came over to me. And I still get a little nervous when people, because I don't know what people are going to do. Like I probably 99% of them are very nice, but it only takes one percent. So I always get like slightly nervous. And I don't mean to be because I'm actually, as you can see, quite gregarious. I like talking to people, but never exactly sure. And he hands me a note and walks away. And I'm like, oh, God, is this like an exploding letter? Who knows? And I open it and it's in the book. So I'll read you his letter because it actually, I put it towards the end because I think it's really important. because you can see I asked Luigi if I could put his note so his note is here so Ms. McKenna I did not want to disturb you as I thought so I thought I would write this note instead because I identify as a conservative in all likelihood we probably would disagree on many issues I find it quite disturbing the level of abuse that you and many other female politicians must endure. It is unfortunate and unacceptable, and I make a point of speaking out when I see it. I hope that you take consolation in the fact that you and others like you are making it easier for the next generation of women, including my three daughters, Luigi. And I was like, this is like the nicest note. And I think that's also what I hope for my book like I hope people are like yeah we can be we can actually disagree but be normal and you know okay with each other and probably most people are um most people are like Luigi are probably not paying attention but there are people that aren't doing that and I think they're also fed sometimes by politicians themselves um who you know really ratchet things up and attack people personally and And so that's a long answer to I can't even remember the question. But I mean, I left politics and I was done. And that's not related to Luigi, but Luigi is a nice guy.Nate Erskine-Smith39:34 - 41:21It's a I think I've got those are my questions around the book. But I do have a couple of questions on climate policy because you're living and breathing that still. And although it's interesting, you comment about politicians. I mean, there's a deep inauthenticity sometimes where politicians treat it as a game. And there's these attacks for clicks. Or in some cases, especially when the conservatives were riding high in the polls, people were tripping over themselves to try and prove to the center that they could be nasty to and that they could score points and all of that. And so they all want to make cabinet by ratcheting up a certain nastiness. But then cameras get turned off and they turn human beings again to a degree. And so that kind of inauthenticity, I think, sets a real nasty tone for others in politics more generally. But on climate policy, I was in Edmonton for our national caucus meeting. I think I texted you this, but I get scrummed by reporters and they're asking me all climate questions. And I was like, oh, this is nice. I'm getting asked climate questions for a change. this is good. This is put climate back on the radar. And then a reporter says, well, are you concerned about the Carney government backtracking on climate commitments? And I said, well, backtracking on climate commitments. I mean, if you read the book Values, it'd be a very odd thing for us to do. Do you worry that we are backtracking? Do you worry that we're not going to be ambitious enough? Or do you think we're still, we haven't yet seen the climate competitiveness strategy? I mean, you know, here's an opportunity to say we should do much more. I don't know. But are you concerned, just given the dynamic in politics as they're unfolding, that we are not going to get where we need to get?Catherine McKenna41:22 - 42:31I mean, look, I'm like you. You know, first of all, I did get into politics. I wasn't an expert on climate, but I cared about climate because I have kids. Like, we have this truck that's coming for our kids, and I'm a mother, so I'm going to do everything I can. I was in a position that I learned a lot about climate policy, and climate policy is complicated, and you've got to get it right. But look, I mean, you know, Mark Carney knows as much about, you know, climate as an economic issue as anyone. And so, I mean, I'm certainly hopeful that you can take different approaches, but at the end of the day, your climate policy requires you to reduce emissions because climate change isn't a political issue. Of course, it's very political. I'm not going to understate it. I know that as much as anyone. But in the end, the science is the science. We've got to reduce our emissions. And you've probably all heard this rant of mine before, but I will bring up my rant again. I sometimes hear about a grand bargain with oil and gas companies. We did a grand bargain with oil and gas companies.Catherine McKenna42:31 - 42:31How did that work out?Catherine McKenna42:31 - 42:32Yeah.Catherine McKenna42:32 - 42:33How did that work out? Tell us. How did that work out?Catherine McKenna42:33 - 47:27Let me tell you how that worked out. So we were working really hard to get a national climate plan. And I saw it as an obligation of mine to work with provinces to build on the policies they had. The Alberta government had stood, so it was the government of Rachel Notley, but with Murray Edwards, who's the head of one of the oil and gas companies, with environmentalists, with economists, with indigenous peoples, saying, okay, this is the climate plan Alberta's going to do. A cap on emissions from oil and gas. a price on pollution, tough methane regs, and, you know, some other things. And so then we were pushed, and it was really hard. I was the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, where we had a climate emergency one day, and then we had a pipeline. The next, I talk about that. That was hard. But the reality is, we felt like that, you know, the Alberta government, we needed to support the NDP Alberta, you know, the NDP government at the time early on. And so then what did we get? Like, where are we right now? We basically, none of the, either those policies are gone or not effective. We got a pipeline at massive taxpayer costs. It's like 500% over. We have oil and gas companies that made historic record profits, largely as a result of Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. What did they do with those profits? They said that they were going to invest in climate solutions. They were going to reduce their emissions. They were all in. But instead, they give their CEOs massive, massive historic bonuses. I'm from Hamilton. That's not a thing when you get these massive historic record bonuses. At the same time, they gave the money back to shareholders who were largely Americans. While they demanded more subsidies to clean up their own pollution, while we are in a climate crisis that is a fossil fuel climate crisis. I now feel taken for a fool because I believed that the oil and gas, like in particular, the oil sands would live up to their end of the bargain. You will see in the book also, I don't know, I probably can't find the page fast enough. I did pinky promises with kids because all these kids came up to me all the time and they said, like, I'm really working hard on climate change. You know, I've got a water bottle. I'm riding my bike. I'm doing like a used clothing drive, whatever it was. And I said, you know what? I'm doing my part, too. Let's do a pinky promise like a pinky swear. And we will promise to continue doing our part. Well, we all did our part. By the way, basically everyone in all sectors have done their part except for oil and gas when they had massive historic record profits. And I wrote a report for the UN Secretary General on greenwashing. And they were exhibit A, exhibit A on what greenwashing looks like, like saying you're doing things that you are not doing and while you're lobbying to kill every policy. So I just hope that people aren't taken for fools again. Like the grand bargain should be they should live up with their end of the bargain. Like that is what bargains are. You got to do what you say you were going to do. And they didn't do it. And as a result, it's extremely hard for Canada to meet our target because they are 30% and growing of our emissions. So I also think like, why are we paying? Why would taxpayers pay? So, look, I don't know. Hard things are hard, as my mug says that I was given by my team because I said it every single day, about 12 times a day. You have to make very tough decisions in government. And we're in a trade war. And also defending our we have to absolutely stand up and defend our sovereignty against the Trump regime, which is very dangerous and very destabilizing. but at the same time we can't not act on climate climate is a here and now problem it's not this fire problem like all these people were evacuated from communities the cost of climate change is massive people are not going to be able to be insured that's already happening and so i just think you gotta walk and chew gum you gotta like figure out how to you know build and grow the economy but you also need to figure out how to tackle climate change and reduce your emissions and to be honest, hold the sector that is most responsible for climate change accountable for their actions and also for their words because they said they were going to act on climate and they supported these policies and they are now still fighting to kill all these policies. You almost can't make it up. And I just don't think Canadians should be taken for fools and I think you've got to make a lot of choices with tax dollars. But I'm not in government And I think, you know, we have, you know, Mark Carney, he's very smart. He's doing a great job of defending Canada. You know, I think like everyone, I'm waiting to see what the climate plan is because it's extremely important. And the climate plan is an economic plan as much as anything else.Nate Erskine-Smith47:28 - 48:23And on that, I would say not just an economic plan, but when you talk about national resiliency, there's a promise in our platform to become a clean energy superpower. There's a promise in our platform to create an east-west transmission grid. And just in Ontario, when you look at the fact that not only are they doubling down on natural gas, but they're also importing natural gas from the United States. When solar, wind, storage is actually more cost effective, investments in east-west transmission grid and in clean energy would make a lot more sense, not only for the climate, not only for the economy, but also as a matter of resiliency and energy independence as well. Okay, those are my questions. So thank you for... Give a round of applause for Calvin. Thank you for joining. With the time that we've got left, Christian, we've got, what, 10, 15 minutes? What time is it? Okay, great. Okay, so does anyone have questions for Ms. McKenna?Audience Q48:25 - 49:09It's a question for both of you, actually. You guys have both been trailblazers in your own right, I think, inside and inside of politics. And you talk a lot about building your community and building your team, whether it's swimming or local politics, and also demanding space in those places to be competitive, all the way up from your local team up to the prime minister. But I'm curious on the other side of that, what does it look like to be a good teammate inside and inside of politics, and how do we support more people, for those of us that might not be running, but trying to get more people like you? Or maybe as an example, somebody that supported you in your run?Catherine McKenna49:11 - 49:56well i mean look i'm trying to do my part and so what i did and it's like what most of you did you go support people that you think are good that are running so i in the last election i went and i supported people that i thought were serious about climate including in ridings that we had never won before um and i also well probably especially those writings um and i also supported women candidates that was just a choice I mean but I think everyone getting involved in politics is a great way to do it but also you know when you think there's someone good that might be good to run you know you know talk to them about it and as I said for women they need to be asked often seven times I think is it so like for women maybe just start asking and if we get to the seventh time maybeNate Erskine-Smith49:56 - 51:38really good women will run and I would add I suppose just on locally I have found one, going into schools and talking politics and encouraging people to think about politics as an opportunity has translated into our youth council. It's then translated into our young liberals internship over the summer where we make sure people are able to be paid to knock on doors and just maintain involvement. And then a number of those people come through either our office and then they're working in politics in the minister's office or in the prime minister's office or they're going to law school or they're adjacent to politics and helping other people and just encouraging people to at least be close to politics so that they see politics as a way to make a difference, there will then be people that will want to run from that or help encourage other people to run. The second thing, and I'll use Mark Holland as an example, when I was running the nomination and I didn't have contacts in the party, but I had someone who knew Mark Holland and he gave me advice to think about it like concentric circles when you're running a nomination where you have people who are close to you and then the people who are close to you will have 10 people that are close to them that maybe they can sign them up for you or maybe they just are they open the door and I you know if so if someone opens the door to a conversation with me I feel pretty confident that I can close the sale but if the door is closed in my face I'm not gonna I'm not gonna even have an opportunity to and so just that idea of building out you start with your your home base and you build out from there build out from there so I just think I have in the last week had conversations with two people who want to run for office at some point, they're both under the age of 30, and I've given that same kind of advice of, here's what worked for me. It may work for you, it may not, it depends, but find where your home base is, and then just grow from there. And so I think just spending time, likeAudience Q51:39 - 52:30giving one's time to give advice like that is really important. Yeah. Building on that, that's, I wanted to, because I think that does nicely into what you said earlier, Catherine, about and really encouraging young women in particular to get into politics. But it's not just, it's all the peripheral people, people that are peripheral to politics, your concentric circles, so that you don't necessarily have to run for an office. And I appreciate what you've done for girls. But I also want you to know that, I mean, I'm older than you, and still you are a role model to me. Not only that, though, I have sons in their mid to late 20s. and I've made sure you're a role model and women like you are a role model to them because I think that's how change begins.Nate Erskine-Smith52:32 - 52:34This was entirely planted just for you, by the way.Catherine McKenna52:35 - 52:37No, but I think that's...Nate Erskine-Smith52:37 - 52:40So I do think that's important, right?Catherine McKenna52:40 - 53:26My book is not... Run Like a Girl, I'm a woman, I identify as a woman and there's a story about how I was told I ran like a girl and so it really bugged me. So it's kind of a particular thing. But I think that is important. Like, you know, this isn't exclusive. Although, you know, there are, you know, certain different barriers, at least that I'm aware of, you know, that if you're a woman, if you're LGBTQ2+, if you're racialized or indigenous, there could be different barriers. But I hear you. And I think, you know, we do have to inspire each other in a whole range of ways. So that is very nice. I hope that, I mean, I'm not, you know, looking to, you know, you know, for kudos. I really, but it is nice to hear that you can inspire people in a whole different way, you know, range of ways.Audience Q53:26 - 53:47It's really, yeah, it's really not about kudos. It's about, you know, it's not that my intent is not just to applaud you. It's just, it's to, it's to recognize you. And that's different, like being seen, holding place, holding space for people to be involved. And so I do have one actual question of this.Catherine McKenna53:48 - 53:50You can ask a question after that.Audience Q53:51 - 53:57Regarding pricing, carbon pricing, how would you communicate the rollout differently?Catherine McKenna53:58 - 54:43Well, I would actually fund it. So hard things at heart, I'm like, okay, well, first of all, we know the Conservatives were terrible. They lied about it. They misled. They didn't talk about the money going back. The problem is, like, we hampered ourselves too. And it was really quite weird because I was like, okay, well, we need an advertising budget because clearly this is a bit of a complicated policy. But the most important thing I need people to know is that we're tackling climate change and we're doing it in a way that we're going to leave low income and middle income people better off. You're going to get more money back. That's very, very important. The second part of the message is as important because I knew the conservatives were going to be like, you're just increasing the price of everything. But we were told we couldn't advertise. And I was like, why? And they said, well, because we're not like conservatives because they had done the, what was the plan?Nate Erskine-Smith54:43 - 54:51The economic action plan. The signs everywhere. They basically, what Ford does now, they were doing it.Catherine McKenna54:51 - 57:40So that sounds really good, except if you're me. Because I was like, well, no one really knows about it. So I'm like one person. And we got some caucus members, not all of them. But Nate will go out and talk about it. Some people will talk about it. But I said, people are entitled to know what government policy is, especially in this particular case, where you've literally got to file your taxes to get the rebate. Because that was the second mistake we made. I was told that we couldn't just do quarterly checks, which would be much more obvious to people, even if it was automatically deposited, you actually named it properly, which was another problem. But, you know, all of these things that are just normal things. And instead, we were told, I was told by the folks in the Canada Revenue Agency, there's no way we could possibly do quarterly checks. after COVID, when we did everything, we blew everything up, then they were like, oh, actually, and this was after me, but they were like, we can do quarterly chaps. I was like, well, that's really helpful. Like, that would have been nice, like a little bit longer, you know, like the beginning of this. And so I think like, we do need to be sometimes very tough, like, don't do things that sound great and are not, are really hampering your ability to actually deliver a policy in a way that people understand. So like, it's just a hard policy. Like, you know, people say, would you have done, what would you have done differently? Yes, I would have communicated it differently. I tried. Like, I was out there. I went to H&R Block because I saw a sign, and they were like, climate action incentive. Oh, by the way, we couldn't call it a rebate because the lawyers told us injustice. We couldn't do that, and I'm a lawyer. I was like, what? And so I should have fought that one harder too, right? Like, I mean, there's so many fights you can have internally as well, but, you know, there I am. I was like, oh, H&R Block, they're doing free advertising for us because they wanted people to file their taxes, so then I would make, I said to all caucus members, you need to go to your HR block and get a family. I don't even want to see you necessarily. I want a family to be sitting down being told they're getting money back. And, and so like, look, I think it's just a hard policy. And, and what happened though, I mean, read hard things are hard, but the chapter, but it's, um, and people will be like, I'm definitely not reading that chapter. You can skip chapters. This book is like, go back and forth, rip things out. I don't, you don't have to read it in chronological order or read particular chapters. But was if the price is going to go up every year, every year you better be ready to fight for it because every year you're literally creating this conflict point where conservatives are like, they're on it. They're like spending so much tax dollars to mislead people. Remember the stickers on the pump that fell off? That was quite funny. They actually fell off. But you're going to have to fight for it. And so we just, it's a hard, it's a very hard policy. I did everything I could. And I don't live with life with regrets. I think it was really important. And by the way, it's a case study outside of Canada.Catherine McKenna57:41 - 57:42Everyone's like, Canada.Catherine McKenna57:42 - 57:52I was like, oh, yeah, there is like a little different ending than you might want to know about what happened. But they're like, yes, this is, of course, how we should do it. Should be a price on pollution. Give the money back.Nate Erskine-Smith57:52 - 58:38I went to a movie at the Beach Cinema with my kids. And there was an ad. This is years ago. But there was an ad. So we were advertising. But it was advertising about the environment climate plan. and it was like people in canoes. And I was like, what is this trying to, like we're spending how much money on this to tell me what exactly? And I went to, Stephen was the minister, and I went, Stephen, can we please advertise Carbon Pricing Works, it's 10 plus percent of our overall plan, and 80% of people get more money back or break even. Just tell people those three things, I don't need the canoe. and then he was like oh we can't we we they tell it they tell us we can't do it no no and that'sCatherine McKenna58:38 - 58:55what you're often told like it is kind of weird internally the amount of times you're told no like on advertising it is a particular thing because like and so then you're like having a fight about comms i was like oh my gosh can we don't think the canoe is going to win this carbon and it didn't turns out i love canoeing by the way so maybe it would have convinced me if i wasNate Erskine-Smith58:55 - 59:01i think last question we'll finish with that with maryland hi i'm maryland and i also happen to beAudience Q59:01 - 01

Licia Heath is the CEO of Women for Election and she's on the show today to talk many things politics, women in politics and the future of women in politics. Despite being in a context where slowly slowly incrementalism at best seems to be the political program at the moment - from a middling 2035 emissions target to housing to gender violence to tax reform to indicating support for the theft of creative intellectual property, it can be difficult to remember that just six years ago the federal political landscape was radically different to what we see today. Licia's theory of change for our political system lies in changing the individual faces of the people who sit at all three levels of government, and she's here today to share much more about this.When I first came across Women for Election and Licia, I was reminded about one of my favourite documentaries - Knock Down the House. That documentary, set in the now-utopian-level times of 2018 follows four women seeking Democratic Party pre-selection for their congressional district elections at the US midterms. The documentary goes behind the scenes in how grassroots campaigning and the creation of new power in communities is possible, away from the vested interests of existing politicians and a two party system that offered little to no chance of delivering much needed structural reform in many areas of our society and economy. I love the potential that new power is possible just by showing up, by getting involved and being active in and with others nearby - not the inaccessible over there toxicity politicians is easily portrayed and perceived as. With that in mind, I wanted to get Licia on, and this didn't disappoint.We cover the origins and evolution of Women for Election, the particular barriers and challenges different groups of women face in pursuing representation, the importance of civility and custodianship as virtues to help drive change, and Licia's own remarkable transformation from 20 year finance professional to the ups and downs of re-making her career, future and identity. This episode has something for everyone, but what has stayed with me since is the vital role of just showing up, being involved and having the willingness to put your hand up and take on a role you never thought was possible, and what's possible once you do accept that role.Events are live and more are coming - follow on Humanitix.Follow on LinkedIn, Substack and Instagram.Today's show is delivered with Altiorem. Use code FindingNature25 to get 25% off an annual subscription.Today's show is delivered with Regenerate Talent. Reference Finding Nature for 10% off their career advisory support program.Today's show is delivered with Econome. Reference Finding Nature for 10% off their climate stream and seed programs.Send me a messageThanks for listening. Follow Finding Nature on Instagram

In this engaging conversation, Sierra and Sharelle discuss their recent Black Movie Night, sharing insights on films like 'Set It Off', 'Dead Presidents', and 'Waiting to Exhale'. They reflect on the cultural significance of these films and their impact on personal experiences. The discussion then shifts to current events, including recent lynchings in Mississippi and the media's portrayal of race and violence. The hosts express their frustrations with political narratives surrounding white supremacy and women's rights, culminating in a critical commentary on the state of politics in America. In this episode, the hosts delve into various pressing topics, including the challenges faced by trans women in politics, the complexities of the justice system, and the evolving definitions of masculinity. They discuss the implications of recent legal cases, the cultural fascination with criminals, and the impact of media narratives on public perception. The conversation also touches on Nick Cannon's family dynamics and DaBaby's controversial music video, highlighting the fine line between artistic expression and insensitivity. Throughout, the hosts emphasize the importance of mental health discussions and the need for deeper conversations about societal expectations and personal choices. TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Black Movie Night Revelations 8:08 - Intro 9:24 - What Can't You Wrap Your Head Around? 19:00 - Two Men Lynched in Mississippi 24:19 - DOJ removes study that proves Far Right Extremism is Terrorism/ Charlie Kirk Recap 33:10 - Marjorie Taylor Green and Nancy Mace w/ the Switch Up 42:53 - Luigi Mangione State Terrorism Charges Dismissed 50:50 - Dame Dash Calls Charlamagne Tha God Gay… 1:06:55 - Nick Cannon Says He Had 12 Kids Due to Trauma 1:14:53 - DaBaby Uses Charlotte Stabbing For Creative Music Video 1:24:07 - End of Show -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please be sure to follow us on all our social media: Cashapp: $Headwrappod Bluesky: @headwrappod Instagram: @headwrapsandlipsticks TikTok: @headwrapsandlipsticks Facebook: Headwraps And Lipsticks: The Podcast Website: www.headwrapsandlipstick.com Email: hosts@headwrapsandlipsticks.com

Episode Summary: This week on The City Girl Empower Hour, we're joined by the extraordinary Rhonda Foxx—strategist, political powerhouse, and founder of PERSIST., a movement redefining what it means to lead as a woman in today's world. Rhonda takes us behind the scenes of her work with the Biden/Harris campaign, where she mobilized over 500,000 women, hosted a record-breaking event with half a million viewers, and raised $1.8 million. We also explore her time in Congress and the corporate world, where she shaped public policy and founded initiatives that continue to drive equity and inclusion nationwide. We talk about: Building the largest women's coalition in campaign history How PERSIST. is creating a political home for women ready to lead Her journey from Chief of Staff to Congressional candidate The hard conversations around careers vs. children Why women's networks are the ultimate power source ✨ Whether you're a changemaker, community builder, or just a woman who's done waiting—this episode will light a fire in you. Subscribe & listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite platform. Guest Info:

Today's guest is no stranger to making waves – both inside and outside the House of Commons. Melissa Lantsman, Member of Parliament for Thornhill and Deputy Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, is known for her straight talk, quick wit, and unflagging energy. Before stepping into the political spotlight, Melissa was a powerhouse behind the scenes, shaping national conversations as a top political strategist and noted communications expert. In this episode, we dive into her journey in politics and leadership – but also explore the Melissa beyond the politics.

"Hardly will you hear a man in politics being insulted for what they wear, or how they look" - Joyce Bawah Mogtari, [Presidential Advisor]

Possible Utopia is the podcast where we explore the intersection of politics, gender, and leadership to imagine a better world. From addressing challenges of safety and well-being in public life to uncovering the motivations that drive individuals, we look at the stories behind those shaping our societies. Together, we take on difficult questions, confront systemic barriers, and reimagine a more inclusive and just political landscape.This is not just a conversation about policy and gender; it is a journey toward possibility, a utopia we can begin building today. Let's explore it togetherMeet our host of Possible Utopia, Kanksshi Agarwal, Founder of NETRI Foundation, India's first incubator for women in politics, featured in LiveMint's 100 Women Shaping India, TEDx speaker, and Cyril Shroff Scholar at University of Oxford.About the Episode with Kartik DesaiIn this episode, we welcome Kartikeya N. Desai, an investing and development finance expert and Founder of Desai & Associates.Kartik Desai, an impact investor at leading Indian funds and advisor to foundations and policymakers on blended and outcome finance, explains how capital can advance gender and climate goals.

From the newsroom to the Senate to rebuilding her life after divorce and illness, Kathleen O'Meara has lived through it all and come back stronger.From her early days in journalism to serving as a Senator in Ireland, Kathleen has spent decades fighting for change, women's representation, and social justice. But behind the scenes, she navigated divorce, financial crises, and chronic illness. Experiences that forced her to rediscover independence, rebuild her identity, and embrace her power as a woman and leader.Kathleen's story is one of courage, creativity, and reinvention. She opens up about the lessons of pain, the liberation of starting over in her 40s, her work training women in rural Ireland to enter politics, and her late-in-life return to writing where she has found new passion and expression.This episode is a reminder that true leadership is not about titles, but about honesty, connection, and showing up again and again for what matters.In This Episode You'll Learn:

In this reflection show, WDDT hosts Stephanie and Myrrhanda highlight audience feedback and discuss important themes from their conversation with farmer, mother, speaker and federal politics hopeful, Megz Reynolds. Hear how a can-do attitude influences your ability to take risks, what it's like behind the scenes in politics, and why we need more women elected.Comment at womendontdothat.com. We love your questions and feedback.Stuff we mention in this episode:Rebecca from Winnipeg @ConfessionsofasleepdeprivedmomLearn more about Equal Voice here: https://www.equalvoice.ca/Listen to the No Second Chances podcast here: https://nosecondchances.ca/Check out Myrrhanda's article, The many reasons women don't take risks and why it's important we do: https://www.womendontdothat.com/blog/the-many-reasons-women-don-t-take-risks-and-why-it-s-important-we-do.Check out Stephanie's article, Do something: How sexism in politics inspired me to speak out: https://www.womendontdothat.com/blog/do-something-how-sexism-in-politics-inspired-me-to-speak-outConnect with us during the week!Instagram @MyrrhandaInstagram @StephanieMittonTwitter @StephanieMittonProduced by Myrrhanda Novak

This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Dr. Helen Baxendale of Great Hearts Academies interview longtime public education champion and Learning Curve co-host Alisha Searcy. Alisha joins the show as a guest to share her story and insights into K-12 public education reform. Herself a product of public-school choice, she discusses how those early experiences shaped her belief in accessible, high‑quality schooling for all students. Elected to the Georgia House at age 23, Alisha spent six terms crafting key education reform laws and policies, including the intradistrict transfer law and the charter school authorizer amendment, that sought to put students at the center of school reform efforts. She then transitioned into school leadership, serving as superintendent of a network of charter public schools in metro Atlanta, where she led dramatic academic improvement and operational turnaround. Drawing on both her legislative and schoolhouse experience, Alisha now leads an ambitious effort like Center for Strong Public Schools (CSPS) and CSPS Action, to support center-left state policymakers in navigating education challenges and designing student‑first public schools. In closing, she explains why the current moment presents unique opportunities to strengthen K-12 public education, especially in Southern states that are facing both pressing achievement needs and prospective school innovations.

Iain Dale is joined by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel Reeves, live from the Edinburgh Fringe Festival - they discuss women in politics, the challenges of being a Chancellor, and bad hair days!

In this solo episode, Stephanie shares what's new behind the scenes—from summer plans with her daughters to what's ahead for Women Don't Do That. She reflects on big moments, gives a personal update on managing ADHD and work-life balance, and highlights powerful episodes you may have missed.✨ Episodes Mentioned:Ep. 196: Grief, Advocacy & Resilience with Kyla ThompsonEp. 194: Life in Politics & Motherhood with Jordan LeichnitzEp. 161: Vault Episode with Chi Nguyen (Now MP)Ep. 108: Vault Episode with Leslie Church (Now MP)Ep. 195: Cameron Rogers, Olympian & World MedalistStephanie also shares what's coming this fall and how you can stay connected over the summer. Don't forget—slowing down isn't falling behind.

In this upbeat episode, Indypodcasters Fiona and Marlene speak with Fatima Joji, a member of the National Executive of Women for Independence (WFI), about the organisation's bold relaunch on International Women's Day . WFI played a vital role in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum, building a respected and influential grassroots network of women-led local groups. But over the last decade, momentum has slowed and some groups have gone quiet. Fatima shares her vision for re-energising WFI, the outcome of their first Annual General Meeting, and how women's voices are still crucial to shaping an independent Scotland.

In this empowering conversation, Luzy and Diana Maldonado discuss the importance of Latinas running for office, sharing Diana's personal journey from a border town in Texas to becoming the first Latina elected in Williamson County. They explore the challenges faced by women in politics, including financial barriers and self-doubt, while emphasizing the significance of education, advocacy, and community support. Episode Highlights: Empowering Latinas to Run for Office 03:27 Diana's Journey: Education and Advocacy 07:29 Breaking Barriers: First Latina in Office 12:11 Overcoming Fears and Self-Doubt 15:28 Navigating Financial Challenges in Politics 18:54 The Importance of Money in Politics 24:46 Founding a Candidacy School for Latinas 29:12 Skills for Success: Communicating Effectively 34:28 Defining Wealth and Its Impact About Diana: Former Texas state representative and best-selling author, Diana Maldonado is the founder of Candidate School, where she helps women to public office with lessons and advise knew when she ran for office. Candidate School helps you answer key questions, gain essential knowledge, feeling empowered in becoming a winning candidate. Connect with Diana on her website. Ready to increase your net worth by $20K or more? Join The Say Hola Wealth Academy — our signature program where we help first-gen wealth builders grow their wealth through salary negotiations, career pivots, mindset coaching, and smart investing. ✨ If you're ready to rewrite your money story and step into your financial power, this is for you. Join today at https://sayholawealth.com/academy   ✨ Enjoyed this episode? Don't forget to subscribe to the channel, leave a comment with your biggest takeaway, and share this video with another poderosa Latina ready to launch her dream.  

Join us for the special episode in partnership with UN Women to commemorate the International Day of Women in Diplomacy. This conversation on gender equality in diplomacy features insights from the Director of UN Women in Geneva, Sofia Calltorp, and Dr. Sarah Chehab, a Senior Research Fellow at the Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy, in Abu Dhabi. Dr. Chehab shares the journey of founding the Women in Diplomacy Research Program and provides the stark statistics on gender representation from the Women in Diplomacy Index. With compelling data, Dr. Chehab discusses the pressing need to bridge the gap in senior diplomatic roles and sparks discussion on the importance of feminist foreign policy. Also joining the conversation, Sofia Calltorp, Director of UN Women in Geneva, shares her extensive experience in diplomacy and humanitarian affairs. She offers insights into UN Women's global efforts and highlights key developments in gender-responsive foreign policies. This episode navigates through the challenges and triumphs of women's representation in diplomacy, emphasizing the crucial role of gender equality in achieving sustainable and inclusive peace and governance on a global scale. Tune in for an engaging dialogue on the future of diplomacy and the critical steps needed to ensure equal representation for all. Resources: Ask a Librarian! The UN Secretary General's report on the 30-year review and appraisal of the Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action - https://docs.un.org/E/CN.6/2025/3 CSW 69 Political Declaration- https://docs.un.org/E/CN.6/2025/L.1 Women in Politics: 2025- https://www.unwomen.org/en/digital-library/publications/2025/03/women-in-politics-map-2025 Women in Diplomacy research programme, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy: https://www.agda.ac.ae/research/publications-multimedia-events/women-in-diplomacy Where to listen to this episode  Apple podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy YouTube: https://youtu.be/Nn7Z6YolbXc Content    Guests: Dr. Sara Chehab, Senior Researcher, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy, United Arab Emirates Ms. Sofia Calltorp, Director, UN Women Geneva Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva 

Is the choice for women just farm or corner office?Join Ariana Guajardo on The Sweet Tea Series as she dives into the 10th annual Young Women's Leadership Summit hosted by Turning Point USA in Grapevine, Texas. Ariana reflects on the evolving role of women in the conservative movement, exploring cultural shifts, motherhood, and the balance between career and family. She breaks down speeches from Dana Loesch, Charlie Kirk, Erika Kirk, and Brett Cooper, and discusses key topics like Second Amendment rights for women, the tension in modern dating, and the dangers of rigid traditionalism. Ariana also challenges stereotypes, advocating for a conservatism that empowers women to shape society through family, community, and policy engagement. She explores what it means to be a conservative woman today, the importance of civic education, and how women can reclaim social institutions to strengthen America's future. Follow @spillingsweettea on Instagram and subscribe to the Texas Public Policy Foundation's YouTube channel for more episodes!Link to socials & more: https://linktr.ee/sweetteaseriesKeywords: Conservative women, Young Women's Leadership Summit, Turning Point USA, TPUSA, Dana Loesch, Second Amendment, motherhood, traditionalism, conservative movement, women in politics, cultural issues, civic education, Texas Public Policy Foundation.

In this episode of My Simplified Life, host Michelle Glogovac interviews Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action and author of Fired Up: A Story of Resilience & the Power of Community. Shannon shares her inspiring journey from stay-at-home mom to national leader in the gun violence prevention movement. They dive into the founding of Moms Demand Action, the ongoing fight for gun safety legislation, and the critical role women play in activism and politics. Shannon also opens up about balancing motherhood with advocacy work, the strength of grassroots organizing, and even touches on her passion for astrology. This empowering conversation highlights why women's voices matter in both personal and political spaces—and how following your passion can create meaningful change. What We're Talking About... Shannon Watts founded Moms Demand Action after the Sandy Hook tragedy. Activism can be a catalyst for personal transformation. Women often overlook their own abilities and desires. The importance of community support in activism. Women only hold about 25% of elected positions in the U.S. Finding one's voice is crucial for empowerment. Balancing family life with activism is challenging but rewarding. Astrology can provide insights into personal growth. Rituals, like enjoying champagne, can enhance daily life. It's never too late to pursue your passions. Chapters 00:00 Friendship and Connection 03:41 The Birth of a Movement 06:52 Activism and Personal Growth 13:09 Balancing Family and Advocacy 16:29 Transformative Experiences in Advocacy 21:42 The Importance of Women in Politics 24:01 Astrology and Personal Insights 27:48 Future Aspirations and Reflections 31:50 Celebrating Community and Inspiration 32:18 Finding Your Passion and Building Connections Links Mentioned Fired Up by Shannon Watts https://www.firedupbook.com

On this Happy Hour, Michael and Anna sit down with Democratic Congresswoman Yassamine Ansari (AZ-3), the youngest women in the House of Representatives! They discuss her tireless work championing climate change policy, her new bill tackling Extreme Heat in her Phoenix area district, and discuss how, given her age, she still pinches herself when she walks the halls of Congress to remind her this is all real. But first on the episode, the gang discuss the latest spate of videos depicting immigration arrests and deportations, and how a growing number of Trump supporters are saying this isn't what they voted for.[00:00] Introduction to the Podcast and Guests[02:01] Discussion on Extreme Heat and Climate Change[04:59] Immigration Issues in Arizona[08:01] Personal Stories of Immigration Enforcement[10:45] Empathy and Public Perception of Immigration[13:37] Political Implications of Immigration Policies[16:38] Women in Politics and Immigration[19:18] Transition to Interview with Representative Ansari[20:09 ]Introduction and Background of Congresswoman Ansari[22:56] The Impact of Youth in Politics[25:51] Climate Change: A Core Passion[28:25 ]Economic Perspectives on Climate Change[31:28 ]Addressing Extreme Heat in Arizona[34:22] Bipartisan Efforts and Legislative Strategies[37:01] Proactive Measures Against Climate Challenges[39:57] Mentorship and Support in Congress[42:40] Building Relationships Across the Aisle[45:41] Conclusion and Future Aspirations

In this episode of the Happy Women Podcast, hosts Jen Horn and Katie Gorka are joined by TPUSA's Morgonn McMichael and they discuss the tragic shooting of two Israeli embassy staff members in Washington, D.C., linking it to the rising antisemitism on college campuses. They explore the influence of socialism and Marxism among students, the importance of empowering young women in politics through events like the Young Women's Leadership Summit, and the significant shift in Gen Z's political engagement. The conversation also touches on the recent passing of the Take It Down Act, aimed at protecting individuals from AI deepfakes and non-consensual content online. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of the Happy Women Podcast, hosts Jen Horn and Katie Gorka are joined by TPUSA's Morgonn McMichael and they discuss the tragic shooting of two Israeli embassy staff members in Washington, D.C., linking it to the rising antisemitism on college campuses. They explore the influence of socialism and Marxism among students, the importance of empowering young women in politics through events like the Young Women's Leadership Summit, and the significant shift in Gen Z's political engagement. The conversation also touches on the recent passing of the Take It Down Act, aimed at protecting individuals from AI deepfakes and non-consensual content online. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm excited to welcome my friend, Dr. Joelle Davis Carter to be this week's podcast episode guest! Dr. Davis Carter is a Contributing Faculty Member in the Riley College of Education at Walden University. With more than 20 years of experience in higher education, Dr. Carter has maintained a robust research agenda that includes topics surrounding women in leadership, diversity and case study teaching strategies. As a higher education administrator and community advocate, she has been involved with organizations such as the American Association of University Women (AAUW), SisterMentors and the Girl Scouts focusing on ways to increase the presence of girls and women in STEM education as well as leadership. Be sure to tune in!..Forbes Article: https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbescoachescouncil/2023/09/26/20-big-misconceptions-that-continue-to-hold-women-leaders-back/..Be a Guest: https://forms.gle/NtccnhVn2PVn9nSQ6..#doneapologizingpodcast #doneapologizingforbeingme #doneapologizing #womenempowerment #womensupportingwomen #badassbabes #podcasting #podcastinglife #podcastersofinstagram  #podcastersofLinkedIn #politics #womeninpolitics 

What if one of the most powerful tools to boost voter turnout isn't a flashy campaign or a new voting law—but being randomly forced to work the polls?In this episode, we explore a surprising study of women in 1930s Spain who were randomly assigned to serve as poll workers—just after they gained the right to vote. The results? A massive, 30-point increase in future voting behavior. Is this just a historical curiosity—or a window into how habit, exposure, and civic experience shape democracy?We speak with researcher Toni Rodon about his paper Working for Democracy: Poll Officers and the Turnout Gender Gap, and unpack what this unexpected experiment teaches us about gender, political culture, and the power of participation.

The votes are still being counted but when the new parliament is formed there will be more female MPs than ever before.But fewer than 10 will be on the Coalition benches. Labor continues to get more women elected and put them into senior roles. Polling suggests Peter Dutton also had a major problem attracting votes from women during the campaign. Today, the ABC's Annabel Crabb on whether the Coalition can ever win back the female vote.Featured: Annabel Crabb, ABC political journalist

Newcomer Abdul Muhaimin Abdul Malik joins his experienced teammates on the couch. Synopsis: The Usual Place now moves to a half-hour daily livestream at noon from April 24 till May 1 - a day before Cooling-off Day - with Singapore's general election on May 3. Host and ST correspondent Natasha Ann Zachariah invites candidates, analysts and hunts for new perspectives on issues that matter to young people. Joining her on the couch are Ms He Ting Ru, 41; Associate Professor Jamus Lim, 49; and Mr Louis Chua, 37, who are contesting Sengkang GRC again – this time with newcomer Abdul Muhaimin, 36. As first-term MPs, they had to navigate both constituency work and team dynamics after winning Sengkang GRC in GE2020 with 52.13 per cent of the vote – the biggest upset of the election then. The WP took 60,136 votes, while the PAP got 55,214 votes. Since then, have there been any growing pains, and how has their working relationship evolved? How do they split roles in the team? Natasha asks them how they feel about winning Sengkang in the last election, and what they’re learning so far during campaigning for GE2025. Highlights (click/tap above): 0:59 One theme from the ground that needs to be examined beyond GE2025 6:33 Being yourself - new candidate Mr Muhaimin on advice he gets from his teammates during campaigning 12:20 How they react to party leaders’ statements on WP fielding its strongest slate in many years13:40 Ms He on women in politics 19:20 The quartet on valuable advice coming from senior WP leaders that they still hold dear today 24:15 Prof Lim on advice given to new candidate Michael Thng for the recent national TV roundtable discussion? 33:34 “Such language was not used in volunteer chat groups or with residents”: Mr Chua on Mr Andre Low’s leaked Telegram messages from a private chat among his business school classmates 41:01 Game Time! What are some apps they wish they would use less on the phone Host: Natasha Zachariah (natashaz@sph.com.sg) Read Natasha’s articles: https://str.sg/iSXm Follow Natasha on her IG account and DM her your thoughts on this episode: https://str.sg/8Wav Follow Natasha on LinkedIn: https://str.sg/v6DN Filmed by: Studio+65 ST Podcast producers: Teo Tong Kai & Eden Soh Shorts edited by: ST Video Executive producers: Ernest Luis, Danson Cheong and Lynda Hong Follow The Usual Place Podcast and get notified for new episode drops: Channel: https://str.sg/5nfm Apple Podcasts: https://str.sg/9ijX Spotify: https://str.sg/cd2P YouTube: https://str.sg/wEr7u Feedback to: podcast@sph.com.sg --- Follow more ST podcast channels: All-in-one ST Podcasts channel: https://str.sg/wvz7 ST Podcasts website: http://str.sg/stpodcasts ST Podcasts YouTube: https://str.sg/4Vwsa --- Get The Straits Times app, which has a dedicated podcast player section: The App Store: https://str.sg/icyB Google Play: https://str.sg/icyX #tup #tuptrSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melinda French Gates is a businesswoman and philanthropist, as well as an advocate for women and girls both in the U.S. and abroad. And over the past few years, she's also become a force in Democratic politics. Kara and Melinda talk about her new memoir The Next Day, which takes readers through some of the most important transitions in her life, including her very public divorce with Bill Gates and her decision to leave the Gates Foundation; how she is working to offset the impact of cuts to programs like USAID on the health of women and children around the world; where political lobbying works (and it's not in the White House); and why she thinks it's essential to get more girls into A.I. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On Thursday's show: In a vote early this morning that followed hours of debate, the Texas House gave initial approval to a billion-dollar private school voucher bill that stands to transform education in Texas in the years to come along with a $7.7 billion public school funding package.Also this hour: We talk with Houstonians supporting women who run for office, regardless of party. And we meet Dr. Jennifer Feltman, an expert on medieval art and architecture, who was one of only a handful of Americans who worked to help restore the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris after it was damaged by fire in 2019. She recently spoke at an event with Archaeology Now Houston.

Welcome to the Today is the Day Changemakers podcast. This is part two of the conversation with DemocraShe, Executive Director and Founder, Sarah Jakle, as we continue to explore how the organization is transforming leadership opportunities for young women across the country.In this episode, we're joined by two powerful new voices—Hanna and Makaela, high school students who are part of the DemocraShe program. They share how being involved has helped them discover their “inner best friend,” build confidence, and begin shaping what it looks like to step into leadership as young women in politics.Through the program, they are developing key skills like empathy, compassion, and civic engagement, while preparing to use their voices in college and beyond to create meaningful change. Their stories reflect how DemocraShe isn't just raising awareness—it's raising the floor for an entire generation.Available online and across multiple U.S. states, DemocraShe also offers stipends to its participants, removing financial barriers and making civic leadership more accessible than ever.This conversation is heartfelt, empowering, and exactly what the world needs right now.Visit www.democracyshe.org to learn more and share this opportunity with a future changemaker.About Today is the Day:Today is the Day is more than just a podcast—it's a global platform that connects, supports, and amplifies changemakers from around the world. Founded and hosted by Jodi Grinwald, an award-winning leadership strategist, speaker, transformational architect, and nonprofit CEO, the platform is rooted in authentic connection and continuous growth.Through her work, Jodi supports entrepreneurs, nonprofit professionals, executives, and teams in aligning with their purpose, reaching financial, professional, and personal goals, navigating imposter syndrome, and mastering public speaking, and much more. Her personalized coaching and consulting model helps individuals and organizations reconnect to what matters most—leading with clarity, confidence, and creating real and sustainable impact.Jodi also provides sales training through a connection-first approach—because we're not just selling a product, service, or mission. We're sharing our authentic connection to it. That's what truly resonates and drives action. Her fundraising strategy is grounded in “friend-raising”—cultivating relationships that lead to meaningful, long-term support.Coming soon: The Changemakers ConnectiveA new membership experience designed for changemakers, leaders, nonprofit professionals, and entrepreneurs who want to grow through real connection. The Changemakers Connective will offer expert-led workshops, strategic support sessions, curated business and mission-building tools, visibility opportunities, and a powerful global network focused on collaboration and impact.To learn more, visit todayisthedayliveit.com and follow us @todayisthedayliveit on Facebook and Instagram.We've now been streamed in 913 cities and 76 countries—thank you for helping us bring these voices and missions to the world.Have a great week!

In this episode of the Happy Women Podcast, hosts Jen and Katie discuss recent political events, focusing on voter security and election integrity. They explore the implications of the SAVE Act, California's push for voter ID, and the importance of accountability in politics. The conversation also touches on the challenges women face in political representation and the significance of loyalty in leadership. The hosts reflect on the current political landscape and the evolving role of women in politics, emphasizing the need for a focus on substance over appearance. Visit today's sponsor: www.myphdweightloss.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this week's episode of Political Contessa, Jennifer examines the significant yet often overlooked role of women in the Republican Party's history. Bringing her expertise and passion to the forefront, Jennifer explores women's impactful contributions to the GOP from its inception to the present day. Jennifer sheds light on the long-standing involvement of women in the GOP, challenging the narrative that the Democratic Party is the sole champion of women's issues. She highlights key milestones, from women attending the first Republican meeting in 1854, the introduction of the 19th amendment, and the endorsement of an Equal Rights Amendment in 1940. This episode delves into the accomplishments of notable women in the party's history and emphasizes the importance of acknowledging and supporting women in politics. Jennifer calls on women to be proud of their political engagement and urges them to continue breaking barriers and making history within the GOP. "Yep, I said it. I said it right here. 1940, the Republican Party, first major political party to endorse an equal rights amendment for women in its platform." - Jennifer Nassour This week on Political Contessa: Women's historical involvement in the Republican Party The GOP's foundation with women's participation A Republican senator introduced 19th Amendment The GOP's 1940 endorsement of the Equal Rights Amendment Women serving as officials and appointees in the GOP Republican women's milestones in elected offices Encouragement for GOP women to financially support political causes Importance of women recognizing and embracing their political power Awaken Your Inner Political Contessa Thanks for tuning into this week’s episode of Political Contessa. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts. Spotify I Stitcher I Apple Podcasts I iHeart Radio I TuneIn I Google Podcasts Be sure to share your favorite episodes on social media. And if you’ve ever considered running for office – or know a woman who should – head over to politicalcontessa.com to grab my quick guide, Secrets from the Campaign Trail. It will show you five signs to tell you you’re ready to enter the political arena.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of the Happy Women Podcast, hosts Jen and Katie discuss recent political events, focusing on voter security and election integrity. They explore the implications of the SAVE Act, California's push for voter ID, and the importance of accountability in politics. The conversation also touches on the challenges women face in political representation and the significance of loyalty in leadership. The hosts reflect on the current political landscape and the evolving role of women in politics, emphasizing the need for a focus on substance over appearance. Visit today's sponsor: www.myphdweightloss.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From Curiosity to a Career in Foreign AffairsPayton Arbuthnot's story began in Springfield, Colorado, where she found herself captivated by the news often as a curious young girl. It wasn't just the stories — it was the fact that through the news, she could know what was happening all over the world. She'd sit by the radio, her small fingers tracing the words in her schoolbooks as the voices from the news anchors painted a bigger picture of life beyond her small town.What really grabbed her attention, though, was the presence of strong women in politics. Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, the Iron Lady herself, became a particular hero. Payton admired how Thatcher stood her ground in a man's world. “If Margaret can do it,” she thought, “I can do it too.”That's when Payton knew she was going to lead with integrity in a world where prominent female voices were still few and far between.In high school, Payton's interest grew into a passion, and by the time she was looking at colleges, Cedarville University in Ohio called her name. The school's commitment to faith and its strong political science program, with an opportunity for a semester in Washington D.C., seemed like the perfect fit. She packed her bags, said goodbye to her family, and made the long trek eastward, her heart set on the path ahead.At Cedarville, Payton thrived. She connected with people and grew closer to God. By the fall of 2023, Payton found herself in D.C., interning at the U.S. Department of State. The work wasn't glamorous, but she took every opportunity to learn, serving with a heart of excellence.Now, with graduation approaching quickly, Payton's eyes are set on the Rangel Fellowship Program, which could open doors to a life of service in embassies and consulates around the world. But she knows this is just one step in the journey. Payton is confident that God is guiding her, and she's ready for whatever comes next.Hear more of Payton's journey of growth and faith on this week's episode of the Cedarville Stories podcast.https://share.transistor.fm/s/f7514447https://youtu.be/Z4X3q4kkGIk

**Meet the New Leaders of California's 12th District:** Newly elected Democrat Lateefah Simon joins veteran Congresswoman Barbara Lee in a powerful conversation about minority representation and the fight for reproductive rights, housing, and immigration reform—how will they inspire change in a Republican-controlled Congress?This show is made possible by you! To become a sustaining member go to https://LauraFlanders.org/donate Thank you for your continued support!Description:  If anyone can inspire the public about the role of the minority in Congress, the women of California's 12th district can. In this charming conversation, newly-elected Democrat, Lateefah Simon, joins the indomitable veteran Barbara Lee, whose congressional seat Simon will be taking when the new Congress convenes. Republicans will control the House and Senate, the White House, and dominate the Supreme Court, but Simon says she's fired up to “fight for what we've fought for” in the areas of reproductive rights, low and middle-income housing, public safety, immigration and more. And that's no wonder. Simon's following Lee — whose historic 26-year career in the legislature included often being in the minority, and once standing alone against granting the president unlimited war powers after 9/11. Like Lee, Simon began her activism as a single mother at Mills College, and that's not all they have in common. Lee says Simon's already made her proud. This episode will delight everyone interested in the role of African American women in politics, or how legacies are built and power is passed on. All that, plus a commentary from Laura on how not to stay tired.Guests:• Barbara Lee, Congresswoman, California 12th District• Lateefah Simon, Congresswoman-Elect, California 12th District RESOURCES:Watch the broadcast episode cut for time at our YouTube channel and airing on PBS stations across the country Related Laura Flanders Show Episodes:• Transportation is a Human Right. Watch /  Download Podcast• To Save The Progressives: U.S. Reps Pramila Jayapal, Mark Pocan, Barbara Lee, Yvette Clark. WatchRelated Articles and Resources:• Lateefah Simon, on Track to Be a New house Dem: “I've Never Shied Away From Any Fight”, by Samantha Michaels, November 6, 2024, Mother Jones•  Shirley Chisolm's Legacy Still Looms Large, Time Magazine•  ‘The point is to be there for the fight':  incoming congresswoman arrives in D.C., Erika Ryan, Ari Shapiro, Patrick Jarenwattananon, November 25, 2024, NPR Full Episode Notes are located HERE. Full Conversation Release: While our weekly shows are edited to time for broadcast on Public TV and community radio, we offer to our members and podcast subscribers the full uncut conversation. These audio exclusives are made possible thanks to our member supporters. Become a supporting member at https://LauraFlanders.org/Donate Laura Flanders and Friends Crew: Laura Flanders, along with Sabrina Artel, Jeremiah Cothren, Veronica Delgado, Janet Hernandez, Jeannie Hopper, Sarah Miller, Nat Needham, David Neuman, and Rory O'Conner. FOLLOW Laura Flanders and FriendsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraflandersandfriends/Blueky: https://bsky.app/profile/lfandfriends.bsky.socialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/LauraFlandersAndFriends/Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lauraflandersandfriendsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFLRxVeYcB1H7DbuYZQG-lgLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lauraflandersandfriendsPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/lauraflandersandfriendsACCESSIBILITY - The broadcast edition of this episode is available with closed captioned by clicking here for our YouTube Channel

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Fully 53 percent of Pew Research Center respondents said there were too few American women in politics. What do you think? What's clear is that there are too few women holding Republican Party offices. When you look at the data and break down the figures, whether it's federal, state or municipal offices, fact is Democrats outnumber Republicans when it comes to women office-holders. This trend needs to change. Rep. Lisa McClain is the House Republican Conference chair and the highest ranking woman in House Republican leadership, and she has quite a bit to say about the state of the nation, the state of Democrats, the state of the leftist attacks on President Donald Trump and more — and all in time for Women's History Month.

In a small town where Burger King's arrival was once celebrated as progress, Travelers Rest now stands as a remarkable anomaly in American governance - with women holding the positions of mayor, city administrator, and majority of the city council. How did this Greenville County community not only transform itself from a "pass-through town" to a coveted destination, but also defy national trends in which women hold just over 20% of chief local government positions? Mayor Brandy Amidon (who began her political journey at age 27) and City Administrator Shannon Herman reveal the surprising role older residents played in championing female leadership, the unexpected mentorship dynamics that shaped their careers, and the leadership principles that have created TR's unique "heartbeat" - a vibrant community where 85% of downtown businesses are now female-owned. Their insights challenge conventional wisdom about who builds thriving communities and how. Links: Brandy Amidon Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandy-amidon-701a7220/ Shannon Herman Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-herman-03a31ba/ International City-County Managers Association on Women in Leadership: https://icma.org/articles/pm-magazine/looking-back-fifty-years-aspirations-women-public-administration?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwY2xjawJNjRxleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHVxLAE8zFHn61hg73_zl-cgNJQ8wu6MOCuU5x-IwIYakMHox0Wd2TP5sbw_aem_-LftpE057alspwn62YFECA Center for Women in Politics on Women in Leadership: https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/current-numbers _ Produced by Podcast Studio X. Simple Civics: Greenville County is a project of Greater Good Greenville. Get in touch. Support Simple Civics with a tax-deductible contribution. Sign up for the Simple Civics newsletter.

Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company In this insightful episode of Negotiate Anything, host Kwame Christian invites Sarah JanTausch to share her extensive experience in politics and how it connects to negotiating through fear. With years of involvement at local, state, and national levels, Sarah delves into stories and strategies that women in politics often face, highlighting the role of negotiation. They explore the psychological aspects of negotiation, combating impostor syndrome, and how incentive structures from economics can be applied to everyday negotiations. This conversation offers practical advice for building confidence and approaching difficult conversations with clarity and purpose. Bullet points of what will be covered: Techniques to negotiate through fear both internally and externally. Insights into how impostor syndrome and fear manifest in negotiation. Strategies for successful political fundraising through negotiation principles. Bullet points of what listeners will learn: How to apply incentive structures in negotiations to understand all parties involved. The importance of acknowledging and overcoming perfectionism to enhance negotiation skills. Effective approaches to asking for money in political campaigns, ensuring alignment with personal and campaign values. Follow Sarah on LinkedIn Contact ANI Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn The Ultimate Negotiation Guide Click here to buy your copy of How To Have Difficult Conversations About Race! Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!

Senator Natasha Hadiza Akpoti-Uduaghan, born on December 9, 1979, is a Nigerian lawyer, social entrepreneur, and politician representing Kogi Central Senatorial District in the 10th National Assembly since 2023. She is notably the first elected female senator from Kogi State. Akpoti-Uduaghan gained prominence through her advocacy for the revival of the Ajaokuta Steel Mill and her commitment to industrialization in Nigeria.  In March 2025, Akpoti-Uduaghan accused Senate President Godswill Akpabio of sexual harassment. Subsequently, she faced a six-month suspension from the Senate, officially cited for violations of Senate Standing Rules. This suspension has sparked national and international debates, with women's rights groups condemning the action and organizing protests under the banner “We are all Natasha.” Akpoti-Uduaghan has challenged the suspension's legality, asserting it as an attempt to silence her and an assault on democracy.  The situation has drawn attention to issues of gender inequality within Nigerian politics, where female representation remains significantly low. The controversy continues to unfold, highlighting the challenges faced by women in leadership positions in Nigeria.In this episode, Babah Kay describes the implications of her suspension on Injustice to women all across Nigeria and the effect of women in politics in Nigeria.Thanks for listening... visit our website at https://www.battabox.com

Last week Nigerian lawmakers suspended senator Natasha Akpoti-Uduaghan for six months after she alleged being sexually harassed by the senate president, Godswill Akpabio. He strongly denies the allegations. Natasha Akpoti-Uduaghan has now made an impassioned plea at the UN, calling for better treatment of women in politics. What's it like for women in politics in Nigeria?Also what's the controversial story behind the JesusMinistries hashtag in Kenya? And whilst the world grapples with democracy in decline, we'll look at how this is playing out on the continentPresenter: Audrey Brown Technical Producer: Philip Bull Producers: Charles Gitonga in Nairobi, Blessing Aderogba in Lagos and Yvette Twagiramariya, Sunita Nahar, Bella Hassan and Stefania Okereke in London Senior Journalist: Karnie Sharp Editors: Andre Lombard and Alice Muthengi

Jann Arden welcomes Canadian politician Chrystia Freeland to the show. The discussion covers Freeland's motivations for entering politics and running for Prime Minister, her experiences negotiating with Donald Trump, the challenges of public service, and the importance of pushing issues such as housing and food insecurity to the forefront. Prompted by Caitlin, Freeland gives us a 'pep talk,' emphasizing the need for Canadians to recognize their strengths and the importance of collaboration in leadership. They also touch on defense spending, the role of women in politics and the importance of self-care amidst the pressures of public life. More About Chrystia Freeland: Chrystia was first elected as the Member of Parliament for Toronto Centre in 2013. She was elected as Member of Parliament for University—Rosedale in 2015 and re-elected in 2019 and 2021. ​From 2015 to 2017, Chrystia served as Minister of International Trade, overseeing the successful negotiation of free trade with the European Union. From January, 2017, to November, 2019, she served as Minister of Foreign Affairs, leading the successful renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). ​ In November, 2019, Chrystia was appointed Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, where she helped lead Canada's united response to the COVID-19 pandemic. She was appointed Minister of Finance in August, 2020 becoming the first woman in Canadian history to hold the position. ​ An esteemed journalist and author, Chrystia was born in Peace River, Alberta. She was educated at Harvard University before continuing her studies on a Rhodes Scholarship at the University of Oxford. https://www.chrystiafreeland.ca/ Leave us a voicenote! https://jannardenpod.com/voicemail/ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: https://patreon.com/JannArdenPod Order ONLYJANNS Merch: https://cutloosemerch.ca/collections/jann-arden Connect with us: www.jannardenpod.com www.instagram.com/jannardenpod www.facebook.com/jannardenpod (00:00) Introduction to Chrystia Freeland (01:34) Inspiration for Entering Politics (04:32) The Impact of Donald Trump on Canada (07:34) Understanding Trump's Intentions (10:58) Coping with Political Vitriol (15:17) A Pep Talk for Canadians (20:35) Addressing Housing and Food Insecurity (25:48) Concerns of Aging and Retirement (28:02) Defense Spending and Canadian Security (29:00) Defending Canada: A New Approach to Defense Spending (31:57) Facing External Threats: The Canadian Perspective (34:14) Leadership in Challenging Times: Unifying Canada (36:59) The Role of Women in Politics: A Personal Perspective ( 44:57) Self-Care and Resilience: Balancing Personal and Public Life Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1965 Margaret Crane was a young designer creating packaging for a pharmaceutical company. Looking at the rows of pregnancy tests she thought, “Well, women could do that at home!” and so she made it a reality for potentially pregnant people to be able to know about and take control of their own lives and bodies.  But while the design of the prototype was simple, Crane faced the issues we continue to fight when it comes to reproductive rights and the health and autonomy of people who give birth: an uphill battle to convince the pharmaceutical companies, the medical community and conservative social leaders that at-home pregnancy testing was safe and necessary. After all this, Crane is only now receiving credit for her contributions to the industry. Featuring: Margaret Crane – Graphic designer and inventor of the first home pregnancy test Wendy Kline – Dema G. Seelye Chair in the History of Medicine, History Faculty Purdue University Jesse Olszynko-Gryn – Head of the Laboratory for Oral History and Experimental Media at Max Planck Institute for the History of Science  Arthur Kover – Emeritus Professor of Marketing, Fordham University Alexandra Lord – Chair, Division of Medicine and Science at the National Museum of American History Credits: Host: Amy Gastelum Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang Executive Director: Jina Chung Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong Engineer: Jeff Emtman  Digital Media Marketing: Anubhuti Kumar   Music Credits: Podington Bear, Rhythm and Strings Learn More: National Museum of American History: https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/nmah_1803285 A Woman's Right to Know, Pregnancy Testing in 20th Century Britain: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262544399/a-womans-right-to-know/ Predictor by Jennifer Blackmer: https://newplayexchange.org/plays/348156/predictor   Making Contact is an award-winning, nationally syndicated radio show and podcast featuring narrative storytelling and thought-provoking interviews. We cover the most urgent issues of our time and the people on the ground building a more just world.

Meghan and Miranda kick off the episode with the latest on Onijah Robinson in Dubai and the UAE's strict laws. They also dissect Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively's awkward appearance at SNL's 50th anniversary. Then, Sage Steele joins for a candid and compelling conversation on women supporting each other in politics, her emotional experience backing Tulsi Gabbard, and the hard lessons she's learned about standing up for her beliefs. From motherhood to the controversy surrounding Tom Hanks' portrayal of a Trump supporter, no topic is off-limits!

In this episode, Riley speaks with Senator Katie Britt about the recent passage of the Laken Riley Act, which aims to enhance public safety by mandating detention for illegal immigrants with criminal records. They discuss the significance of this legislation, the challenges faced during its passage, and the broader implications for immigration policy. The conversation also touches on the ongoing Senate confirmation hearings, the role of women in politics, and Senator Britt's future legislative priorities, including childcare affordability and youth mental health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of the Happy Women podcast, hosts Jennifer Horn and Katie Gorka reflect on their Thanksgiving experiences and transition into discussing political issues, particularly the recent pardon of Hunter Biden by President Joe Biden. They explore the implications of this pardon, the cultural shift towards spirituality as evidenced by rising Bible sales, and the changing dynamics of women in politics. The conversation also touches on the growing distrust in government and Gavin Newsom's political strategies in California.Support the show: https://www.sebgorka.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.