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Catherine McKenna joined me in person for a live recording of this episode at the Naval Club of Toronto here in our east end. We discussed her new book ‘Run Like a Girl', lessons learned from her six years in federal politics, the reality of political harassment, the tension between party loyalty and telling it like it is, and why we should be wary of “grand bargains” on climate with oil and gas companies.Catherine served as Environment and Climate Change Minister from 2015-2019 and Infrastructure Minister from 2019-2021. She's now the founder and CEO of Climate and Nature Solutions and chairs a UN expert group advising the Secretary General on net zero commitments.Read further:Run Like A Girl - Catherine McKenna (2025)https://www.catherinemckenna.caChapters:00:00 Introduction & Run Like A Girl Book05:32 Lessons from Politics: Hard Work & Balance08:52 Climate Barbie & Political Harassment15:26 Running for Office in Ottawa Centre23:17 Being a Team Player vs. Speaking Truth32:05 Leaving Politics40:30 Climate Policy & the Oil & Gas “Grand Bargain”48:24 Supporting Others in Politics52:56 Carbon Pricing Communication Failures59:13 Gender Balance, Feminism & Cabinet01:04:04 Final Thoughts & ClosingTranscript:Nate Erskine-Smith00:02 - 00:38Well, thank you everyone for joining. This is a live recording of the Uncommon's podcast, and I'm lucky to be joined by Catherine McKenna, who has a very impressive CV. You will know her as the former Environment Minister. She is also the founder and CEO of Climate and Nature Solutions, a consultancy focused on all things environment and nature protection. And you may or may not know, but she's also the chair of a UN expert group that gives advice to the Secretary General on net zero solutions. So thank you for coming to Beaches East York.Catherine McKenna00:38 - 00:56It's great to be here. Hello, everyone. And special shout out to the guy who came from, all the way from Bowmanville. That's awesome. Anyone from Hamilton, that's where I'm originally found. All right. Nice, we got a shout out for Hamilton. Woo-hoo.Nate Erskine-Smith00:57 - 01:19So I ran down a few things you've accomplished over the years, but you are also the author of Run Like a Girl. I was at, you mentioned a book launch last night here in Toronto, but I attended your book launch in Ottawa. And you can all pick up a book on the way out. But who did you write this book for?Catherine McKenna01:21 - 02:58So, I mean, this book has been a long time in the making. It's probably been five years. It was a bit of a COVID project. And you'll see, it's good, I've got my prop here, my book. But you'll see it's not a normal kind of book. So it has a lot of images of objects and of, you know, pictures, pictures of me getting ready to go to the state visit dinner that was hosted by Obama while I'm trying to finalize the text on climate. So it's got like random things in it, but it's intended for a much broader audience. It's really intended to inspire women and girls and young people. And I think that's particularly important right now because I work on climate and I think it's really hard. Do people here care about climate? Yes, I imagine here you care about climate. I mean, I actually think most Canadians do because they understand the wildfires and they see the smoke and people are being evacuated from communities and you can't get insurance if you're in a flood zone. But I do think in particular we need to bolster spirits. But also it's a book, it's really about how to make change. It's not like people think it's like a political memoir. So I think, you know, fancy people in politics will look at the end of the book to see if their name is there and maybe be disappointed if it isn't. But it's not really that kind of book. It's like I was a kid from Hamilton. I didn't want to be a politician. That wasn't my dream when I grew up. I wanted to go to the Olympics for swimming. And spoiler alert, I did not make the Olympic team, but I went to Olympic trials.Nate Erskine-Smith02:59 - 02:59You're close.Catherine McKenna03:00 - 04:05I was, well, closest, closest, but, but it wasn't, I mean, you know, life is a journey and that wasn't, it wasn't sad that I didn't make it, but I think it's just to hopefully for people to think I can make change too. Like I didn't come as a fully formed politician that was, you know, destined to be minister for the environment and climate change. So in particular for women and young people who are trying to figure out how to make change, I think it's a little bit my story. I just tried to figure it out. And one day I decided the best way to make change was to go into politics and get rid of Stephen Harper. That was my goal. He was my inspiration, yes, because we needed a new government. And yeah, so I really, really, really am trying to reach a much broader audience because I think we often are politicians talking to a very narrow group of people, often very partisan. And that's not my deal. My deal is we need everyone to be making change in their own way. And I want people who are feeling like maybe it's a bit hard working on climate or in politics or on democracy or human rights that you too can make change.Nate Erskine-Smith04:06 - 05:17And you were holding it up. I mean, it's a bit of a scrapbook. You've described it. And it's also honest. I mean, there was some media coverage of it that was sort of saying, oh, you said this about Trudeau, calling him a loofer. And there's a certain honesty about I've lived in politics and I'm going to call it like it is. But what I find most interesting is not the sort of the gotcha coverage after the fact. It's when you go to write something, you said you're not a writer at the launch that I saw in Ottawa, but you obviously sat down and were trying to figure out what are the lessons learned. You've had successes, you've had failures, and you're trying to impart these lessons learned. You mentioned you sort of were going down that road a little bit of what you wanted to impart to people, but you've had six years in politics at the upper echelon of decision-making on a really important file. I want to get to some of the failures because we're living through some of them right now, I think. Not of your doing, of conservative doing, unfortunately. But what would you say are the lessons learned that you, you know, as you're crystallizing the moments you've lived through, what are those lessons?Catherine McKenna05:19 - 07:12It's funny because the lessons I learned actually are from swimming in a way that actually you got to do the work. That, you know, you set a long-term goal and, you know, whatever that goal is, whatever you hope to make change on. And then you get up and you do the work. And then you get up the next morning and you do the work again. And sometimes things won't go your way. But you still get up the next morning. And I think it's important because, like, you know, look, I will talk, I'm sure, about carbon pricing. We lost the consumer carbon price. There's a chapter. It's called Hard Things Are Hard. I'm also, like, really into slogans. I used to be the captain of the U of T swim team. So I feel like my whole life is like a Nike ad or something. Hard things are hard. We can do it. But yeah, I mean, I think that the change is incremental. And sometimes in life, you're going to have hard times. But the other thing I want people to take from it is that, you know, sometimes you can just go dancing with your friends, right? Or you can call up your book club. I would sometimes have hard days in politics. And I was like, oh, gosh, that was like, what? happened. So I'd send an email, it would say to my book club. So if you have book clubs, book clubs are a good thing. Even if you don't always read the book, that would be me. But I would be SOS, come to my house. And I'd be like, all I have is like chips and wine, but I just need to hang out with regular people. And I think that's also important. Like, you know, life is life. Like, you know, you got to do the work if you're really trying to make change. But some days are going to be harder and sometimes you're just trying to hang in there and I had you know I had I have three kids one of them they're older now one of them is actually manning the the booth selling the books but you know when you're a mom too like you know sometimes you're going to focus on that so I don't know I think my my lessons are I I'm too gen x to be like you've got to do this and INate Erskine-Smith07:12 - 07:16learned this and I'm amazing no that's not writing a graduation speech I'm not I'm not writing aCatherine McKenna07:16 - 08:43graduation speech and I don't know that you know the particular path I took is what anyone else is going to do I was going to I went to Indonesia to do a documentary about Komodo dragons because my roommate asked me to so that led me to go back to Indonesia which led me to work for UN peacekeeping and peacekeeping mission in East Timor but I think it's also like take risks if you're a young person Like, don't, people will tell you all the time how you should do things. And I, you know, often, you know, doubted, should I do this, or I didn't have enough confidence. And I think that's often, women often feel like that, I'll say. And, you know, at the end, sometimes you are right. And it's okay if your parents don't like exactly what you're doing. Or, you know, people say you should stay in corporate law, which I hated. Or, you know, so I don't know if there's so many lessons as a bit as, you know, one, you got to do the work to, you know, listen to what you really want to do. That doesn't mean every day you're going to get to do what you want to do. But, you know, if you're really passionate about working human rights, work on human rights, like figure out a way to do it and then also have some fun. Like life can feel really heavy. And I felt that during COVID. I think sometimes now after, you know, looking at, you know, social media and what Donald Trump has done or threatened to do, it can feel hard. So I think it's also OK to to just check out and have fun.Nate Erskine-Smith08:44 - 08:46I like it. Well, there aren't lessons, but here are three important lessons.Catherine McKenna08:48 - 08:50I am a politician. It's good. Well, it's OK.Nate Erskine-Smith08:50 - 09:57You mentioned a few times really writing this book in a way to young people and specifically to young women to encourage them to to make a difference and to get involved. and yet politics, we were both drawn to politics, I think for similar reasons, and it is one of the most important ways to make a difference, and I wanna get to you. There are other ways to make a difference, of course, but there's a bit of a tension, I think, in what you're writing, because you're writing this encouragement to make a difference, and politics is so important, and on the flip side, you document all sorts of different ways that politics has been truly awful, the absurdity of, I knew the ridiculous idiocy of Climate Barbie, but I didn't actually appreciate that you had these bizarre men coming to your house to take selfies in front of your house. That's just a next-level awfulness. And so how do you, when you're talking to young people, to encourage them on the one hand, but also you don't want to shield them from the awfulness, and we all want to make politics a more civil, better place, but these are problematic tensions.Catherine McKenna09:58 - 10:42Yeah, I mean, look, I thought a lot about what I wanted to say about like the hate and abuse that I got, but also my staff got. I mean, they come to my office and start screaming. And of course, everything's videotaped. So and, you know, there were incidents at my house. And so I first of all, I believe in being honest. Like, I just believe in it. I believe that people deserve the truth. But also in this case, I wasn't looking for sympathy. I'm out of politics. I don't need sympathy, but we need change. And so I think the only way, one of the only ways we get changed, and you know how hard it is to get policy, like online harm legislation. We still have not gotten online harm. In a way, it's kind of unfathomable that we can't just get it. Like, we know that online.Nate Erskine-Smith10:42 - 10:43C5 happened real quick, though. Don't worry.Catherine McKenna10:43 - 10:43Okay.Catherine McKenna10:44 - 10:48Well, luckily, I'm not in politics anymore. I'm not in politics anymore.Catherine McKenna10:48 - 11:48I just do my thing. But I do think that by documenting this, I'm hoping that people will read it and say, well, wait a minute, that's not OK, because that's how we will get the support to get legislation to make sure that we hold social media platforms accountable. that's the way that we will be able to get people to say to politicians, you cannot go and do personal attacks and then go spread them online to get to get clicks. And that we can get proper protection for politicians, which I don't love, but actually we need that sometimes. So I think that it is important to say that I don't want people to feel down because I have multiple purposes in the book. Like people are talking about this. And I've had a number of my female politician friends saying thank you for stepping up because now people are taking it more seriously because they're like wow that was bad like climate barbie sounds kind of quaint now but climate barbie led to a whole bunch of things that led to a bunch of things that led to rcmp finally being outside my house whichNate Erskine-Smith11:49 - 12:05wasn't amazing but at least i felt safe but it's one thing to say quaint but it normalizes a misogyny that is that is awful right yeah so it's and it might it might not be a direct threat it might not be taking a selfie outside of your home which is an implicit threat but it is it's normalizing an awfulness in our politics.Catherine McKenna12:06 - 12:10Yeah, I mean, it is. From other politicians. It was a former minister in Harper's CabinetNate Erskine-Smith12:10 - 12:11who started it, right?Catherine McKenna12:11 - 12:21It was, or at least amplified it. We'll go there, like the climate Barbie. Okay, so climate Barbie is, it's quite weird because now my kids are like, well, Barbie went to the moon.Catherine McKenna12:21 - 12:22Barbie was an asteroid.Catherine McKenna12:23 - 14:57Quinn is here, like, you know, Barbies are, like, you know, not that big a deal. The thing is, if you are my age, if anyone here is 50 or over, I think you're pretty clear when someone who's 50 or over calls you climate barbie there's a lot going on in that and i said nothing like i was actually baptized climate barbie very early on um by a rage farming alt-right outlet they are not media and that's what they do this is their game they go after progressives to make money actually um for clickbait but i didn't do anything for so long um and i guess my team was lovely and i had a lot of really awesome women and they're like just don't do it because you'll they'll know that you know they can go after you um and so i'm at the un actually it's like seven years ago i was just at the un last week yes i heard donald trump but i was there to work on climate but it was the same thing it was the end of a really long day i was going back to the hotel i was actually in the hotel lobby some crabby hotel with my team and i look at my phone i was like why is my twitter exploded what has happened and then i see the climate barbie tweet and i said to my team. I said, okay, I'm sorry. I'm just going to have to deal with this situation. And they knew, like, I'm, when I say I'm dealing with it, I'm going to deal with it. And so I, I, you know, I'm a lawyer by training. So I, you know, try, I am Irish. I've got the hot headed side and then I've got the lawyer rational side. So I was like, okay, what am I going to say? There's going to call it out, but in a way that isn't falling into the trap of just calling names. So I said, it's in this book. I'm not going to get exactly right, but it was something like, would you use that kind of language with your girlfriend, wife, mother? You're not chasing women out of politics. Your sexism is going to chase women, whatever it was. And what was so interesting about this, and this is why in this book, I do the same thing, is that it went viral. And I wasn't trying to do this. I was trying to shame him so he would stop. And people like would stop me in the streets. And it would be, you know, conservative men, they'd be like, I'm a conservative, I'm ashamed. This is not acceptable. And I really appreciate this. This is how you stand up to bullies. And I thought, oh, this is important that we do this every once in a while, because often as a woman, you're kind of supposed to take it because otherwise you look a bit weak. And I realized actually the power is other people saying that this is not okay. So I actually appreciate that you call it out. You will see in my book. I will just let me see if I can find it. I also, like, kind of bizarrely, a bunch of, like, men would send me Barbies with really mean notes.Catherine McKenna14:57 - 15:04So they'd go to a store, buy a Barbie, then go and find the address of my constituency office or my ministerial office,Catherine McKenna15:05 - 15:32and then send it with a note that they personally addressed. Like, that's kind of weird. So anyway, the funny thing is, I guess, is it funny? I don't know. It's just it. There's a Barbie. This is actually a picture of one of the Barbies that was sent. We would normally put our Barbies in the Christmas toy drive. I guess we figured might as well give it to, you know, kids that would like the Barbie. But I found one when I was cleaning up my office. And I was like, oh, I'm going to just keep that. I'm going to like, you know, just keep that. So you can...Nate Erskine-Smith15:32 - 15:33No one's sending you Barbies.Catherine McKenna15:33 - 15:38I have a book of just... No one's sending you Barbies. Glorious things that people have sent, like written notes that people have sent over the yearsNate Erskine-Smith15:38 - 16:33where you're just like, this is the most bizarre thing to have received. And, you know, in 10 years in politics, the scrapbook grows. So speaking of, you mentioned Harper being an inspiration of sorts. You also have said, I'm just a regular person who wanted to make a change. And politics, you also said, I didn't want to be a politician. I want to be an Olympian. But you also document Sheila Copps as someone you looked up to. You mentioned your dad being very political. And Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the person in politics who was a bit of an inspiration for your dad and family. And so Harper, obviously, a motivating force for me as well in the lead up to 2015. I think there's a whole class of us in the lead up to 2015 that wanted a different kind of politics. How did you get on the ballot, though? It was you were a lawyer and you thought, no, this is this particular moment. Were people tapping on the shoulder and saying, come on, Catherine, now's the time?Catherine McKenna16:37 - 18:52Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a funny story because women often have to be asked multiple times. The thing is, I'd already been asked before 2015. And it's kind of funny because I saw my friend last night who's part of the story. So when Stéphane Dion was running, I went back to Hamilton. So that's where my parents, my dad passed away. But that's where my parents lived. And I was walking up my street. And the head of the riding association was like, would you like to run? So the election, I think, was already called. I'm pregnant. I live in Ottawa. And so I was like, oh, maybe I should think about that. So I asked my friend. He's like, well, I guess you won't have to knock on doors. So that was my first time getting asked. I did not run then. But I ran a charity that did human rights, rule of law, and good governance. I'd started this charity after having lived abroad with a friend. And, I mean, it was like banging your head on a wall in the pre-Harper times. We were trying to support human rights. We were working with indigenous youth in Canada focused on reconciliation. I cared about climate change. I was like, all of these things I'm trying to do outside of the system are a complete and utter waste of time. So I thought, OK, we've got to get rid of the government. So that's my theory of change now. My theory of change was create this charitable organization, and it's just not getting the impact. So I decided I was going to run, but I was in Ottawa Centre. So I don't know if many of you know Ottawa Centre. It's actually where Parliament's located, so it's great. It's a bike ride to work. But it was Paul Dewar, who was a really beloved NDP member of parliament. His mother had been mayor. And I really like Paul, too. But the reality is you've got to win, right? So you've got to win enough seats so you can form government. So I ran for two years. And it's interesting because I just decided to run. I canvassed, and so maybe the woman, this will maybe resonate a little bit. So I was like, okay, I really want to run, but I kind of need permission. I don't know why I thought I needed permission, but I did. So I went the rounds. And I like the Liberal Party, but it can be like an inside club. And I wasn't from Ottawa Centre. And so I think people were like a bit perplexed. They're like, we're kind of keeping this riding for a star candidate. And I was like, okay, what the heck? Who's a star?Catherine McKenna18:52 - 18:53Like, what's a star candidate?Catherine McKenna18:53 - 19:07Is that like a male lawyer who gives a lot of money to the Liberal Party? Like, I was like, seriously, what is a star candidate? Yeah, that's what it is. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. I don't know. You are a male. I ran when I was 29 and had no money.Nate Erskine-Smith19:07 - 19:09That was a setup. That was a setup.Catherine McKenna19:09 - 20:15No, it wasn't. Okay. Anyway, we'll just blow by that one. You're a little bit unusual. Okay. So we'll take you out of that. But anyway, it's quite funny because then I was like, and then people were like, actually, you should just get the party to go get you another riding that's winnable. So I was like, okay, on the one hand, you need a star candidate here for this great riding that, but on the flip side, no one can win. So I was like, okay, I don't really know. So I looked at, like, you know, I'm not a fool. I was a competitive swimmer. I want to win. So I looked at the numbers, and I realized, like, you know, if Justin Trudeau was then leader, if we did super well, we were in third place, and it was two years out. But if I worked really hard and we did super well, there was a shot at winning. So I just decided I'm going to run. And I got the chapters called The New Girls Club. And then I had men supporting me. It was fine. But I literally had a lot of women who were just like, I don't know if you can win. This is kind of bonkers. You're doing it. But I'm going to step up and give you some money. I'm going to go help sell nominations. And at that point, you had to sell them. And no one wanted to buy a nomination.Catherine McKenna20:15 - 20:20People are like, I don't want to be a party. I want to join a party, especially a liberal party.Catherine McKenna20:22 - 21:04And so those of you who are thinking about politics, how do you win a nomination? I was trying to sell memberships and people weren't buying them. I was like, oh gosh, every night I'm going out, I've got these kids and I'm going out and talking to people. And I'm spending two hours and getting one or two nominations, people signing up. So I actually realized it was my kids' friends' mothers whose names I didn't know. I just knew their kids. And I think they were like, wow, we don't really know anyone that would go into politics. But we actually think you'd be pretty good. And your kids would kind of nice. And I don't know. I'll just sign up. I don't care.Catherine McKenna21:04 - 21:06And so it was actually really heartening.Catherine McKenna21:07 - 23:15And I will say, like, for all the bad of politics, and there is some bad for sure. And you will read about it in my book. That campaign for two years, like, we knocked on more than 100,000 doors. We had the highest voter turnout in the country. We had, I had my own rules. Like, I was like, we're going to do this in the way that I believe in. and you know some like some of it was following the bomb a snowflake model like you know we wanted to run hard but we also engaged kids and it wasn't like we had just like a kid area we would have kid canvases and I just felt important to me and we went to low income parts of the riding where some people said they're not going to vote or we went to university we went to university residents they're like they're not going to vote actually they turned out in strong numbers and I got a ton of volunteers who, and people that knew my name, because like someone who knows someone who knows someone. So it was great. But I will say like, that's the one thing about getting involved in politics. You may be here. I met a couple of you who said younger people who said you'd like to run. You can do it. You don't need permission. You're gonna have to hustle. You're gonna have to build your team. But this isn't an in club. And I do sometimes worry that politics feels like an in club and it shouldn't be that like we need everyone who wants to step up and get involved in however they want to get involved to be able to do that and so that's my lesson read that chapter hopefully you feel quite inspired and when I knocked on the last door I didn't know if I would win or not but I knew we'd left it all on the ice and I felt great like I was like we also have another woman who has run here it's Kelly is it Kelly who's run a couple times you know what it's like like you build a team. Now you were in a super hard riding. I do hope you run again. But it, it's just this feeling of doing something that matters and bringing people together in a common cause that is bigger than yourself. And it's about believing you can improve lives and you can tackle climate change. So that was a great I hope you read it and feel like you can do it too, if you want to run because you can, I will say you got to work hard. That is one of the most important thing doors gotNate Erskine-Smith23:15 - 23:36got a knock on doors well so i want to get back to though you were emphasizing one this idea of an insider culture but at the same time the need to have a really local presence and it was people who who were on the ground in the community who who ultimately helped get you over the finish line the nomination i mean here you know sandy's working the bar i went to high school with his kids andCatherine McKenna23:36 - 23:41he signed up in the nomination you got sandy and he got us a beer and and you got claire and fredNate Erskine-Smith23:41 - 24:44here who again i went i went to high school with their kids and they signed up in the nomination probably for joining the Liberal Party for the first time. And you go down the list, and there are people who are behind you locally. And in part, I think when you get started, now you go, okay, well, I know this person in the party, I know that person in the party, I've lived in the party for 12, 13 years. But I was 29 when I was starting to run the nomination. No one was tapping me on the shoulder and going, like, you're a star candidate, whatever that means, as you say. And so it does require that desire to say, no one has to ask me. I'm going to go do it and I'm going to build my own local team. But it also gets, I think, at another tension of who is your team? Because you say at one point, sometimes you need to be on the outside so you can push the inside to do more. And so you're on the outside now and you can be probably more honest in your assessment of things and more critical. I have tried, though, at times over the 10 years to play that same role in caucus.Catherine McKenna24:46 - 24:49What? Nate? I thought you were always all in on everything. Yeah, all in on everything.Nate Erskine-Smith24:50 - 25:32But it does get to this idea of team. It's like, be a team player, be a team player, be a team player. And the answer back is, well, who's your team? And yeah, sure, of course the team is the Liberal caucus, but the team is also people in Beaches of East York, the people who are knocking doors with the nomination, people who are knocking doors in the election. And they also want accountability. They also want the party and the government to be the best version of itself. And so do you find you were when you think back at the six years that you were in. I mean, cabinet's a different level of solidarity, obviously. But do you think it's possible to navigate that, you know, critical accountability role inside the tent? Or do you think it's essential as you are now to be outside to play that, you know, that that truth function?Catherine McKenna25:34 - 25:46I mean, that's a that's a really hard question because I mean, I'm a team person. I just sound like I was captain of a swim team. But that doesn't team. So it's different. Like, I'll just have to distinguish like being in cabinet.Catherine McKenna25:47 - 25:52Like you do have cabinet solidarity. But in cabinet, let me tell you, like I spoke up.Catherine McKenna25:52 - 26:50I like everyone didn't didn't always like it, but I felt like I had an obligation to just say things. And that was as much to myself as it was to anyone else. But then once you do that, you know, there is this view that then you stand with the team or else you leave cabinet. That is hard. That is hard. But it's probably less hard than being in caucus where you feel like you might have less influence on the issues. The one time I felt this was actually when I was out, but it was hard to do. And this is when I spoke up and I said I felt it was time for Justin Trudeau to step down, like to like have a leadership race to allow someone new to come in. And it was funny because I got like all these texts like and I was out. Right. So you think not such a big deal. But I got texts from people and like saying, who do you think you are? Like, you know, we're a liberal team. And I was like, OK, this is weird because I get team, but team doesn't equal cult.Nate Erskine-Smith26:52 - 26:52Welcome to my world.Catherine McKenna26:56 - 28:06Nate and me, are we exactly the same? Probably not exactly the same, but no, no. but I think it's true because I was like, well, wait a minute. We also owe it to, in that case, it was also like, we got to win. Are we going to just go? Is this the way it's going? We're just going to allow us to go down even though it's clear that the wheels have come off the cart. And that was hard. But I thought about it, and I was just so worried about the other option. Like Pierre Paulyab, that was too much. And I was like, okay, if I can make a bit of a difference, I will take a hit. It's fine. But I like, look, there is it is really hard to navigate that. And I mean, obviously, if it's super chaotic and no one's supporting things, I mean, the government will fall and you can't get agendas through. There does have to be some leeway to say things like that is important. It's that line and the tension. And I know you've you've felt it. And, you know, we haven't always been on the same side of those things, probably. But that is hard. That is hard. And I don't know that there's any easy answer to that because you can't always be in opposition because you can't govern.Catherine McKenna28:07 - 28:09So I would actually put that to you, Nate.Catherine McKenna28:10 - 28:38No, but I think it's an interesting question for you because, as I said, I was in cabinet, so it was a little bit easier. I mean, you literally have to vote with the government. But for you, there were times that you decided to, you know, be your own voice and not necessarily, well, not when I say not necessarily, not support, you know, the government's position. like how did you make decisions on that like how do you decide this is the moment i'm going to do that sometimes i care but i don't care as much or maybe i've done it you know a few times and iNate Erskine-Smith28:38 - 31:51should stay together like how did you how do you make that choice so i i think that uh trudeau and running for his leadership one thing that drew me to him actually he was calling for generational renewal at the time which which appealed to me but he was also talking about doing politics differently and whether that promise was entirely realized or not you know you lived around the cabinet table you you know more than me in some ways but I would say the promise of freer votes was incredibly appealing to me as the kind of politics that I that I want to see because I do think you you want that grassroots politics you want people to be it sounds trite now but that idea of being voices for the community in Ottawa not the other way around but there is a there's a truth to that. And so how do you get there and also maintain unity? And I think they navigated that quite well when in the leadership and then it became part of our platform in 2015, he articulated this idea of, well, we're going to have whipped votes on platform promises. Do I agree with everything in the platform? No, but I'll bite my tongue where I disagree and I'll certainly vote with the government. Two, on charter rights and human rights issues. And then three, and this is more fraught but on confidence matters more fraught i say because there were moments where they made certain things confidence matters that i didn't think they should have but you know that was that was the deal and that was the deal that you know you make with constituents it's the deal that you make with with members of the liberal party beyond that i think it's more about how you go about disagreeing and then it's making sure that you've given notice making sure that you've explained your reasons i i've i've uh i've joked i've been on many different whips couches but uh andy leslie i thought was the best whip in part because he would say why are you doing this and you'd run through the reasons he goes well have you have you engaged with them like do they know yeah well have they tried to convince you otherwise yeah and but here are the reasons okay well sounds like you thought about it kid get in my office and it was a there was a you could tell why he was an effective general because he he built respect as between you uh whereas you know the other approach is you have to vote with us. But that's not the deal, and here's why. And it's a less effective approach from a whip. But I would say how you, you know, I've used the example of electoral reform. I wasn't going and doing media saying Justin Trudeau is an awful person for breaking this promise, and, you know, he's, this is the most cynical thing he could have possibly have done, and what a bait and switch. I wasn't burning bridges and making this personal. I was saying, you know, he doesn't think a referendum is a good idea. Here's why I think there's a better forward and here's why I think we here's a way of us maintaining that promise and here's why I don't think we should have broken the promise and you know different people in the liberal party of different views I think the way we go about disagreeing and creating space for reasonable disagreement within the party outside the party but especially within the party really matters and then sometimes you just have to say there's an old Kurt Vonnegut line it's we are who we pretend to be so be careful who you pretend to be and I think it's double each room politics and so you know you want to wake up after politics and think I did the thing I was supposed to do when I was there. And sometimes that means being a good team player, and other times it means standing up and saying what you think. Okay, but back to questions for you.Catherine McKenna31:52 - 31:57Do you like that one? That was pretty good. Just put Nate on the hot speed for a little bit.Nate Erskine-Smith31:59 - 33:01You can ask me questions, too. Okay, so I was going to ask you why not politics, but you've sort of said, I've heard you say you felt that you were done, and you did what you came to do. But I want to push back on that a little bit, because you did a lot of things, especially around climate. First climate plan, you put carbon pricing in place, a number of measures. I mean, that gets all the attention, and we can talk about the walk back on it. But there's stringent methane rules, there were major investments in public transit, there's clean electricity. You run down the list of different things that we've worked towards in advance. And then we talk about consumer carbon pricing, but the industrial carbon piece is huge. Having said that, do you worry you left at a time when the politics were toxic, but not as toxic as they are today around climate and certainly around carbon pricing? And do you feel like you left before you had made sure the gains were going to be protected?Catherine McKenna33:02 - 33:11I think the lesson I learned, you can never protect gains, right? Like, you're just going to always have to fight. And, like, I can't, like, when am I going to be in politics? So I'm, like, 120?Catherine McKenna33:12 - 33:12Like, sorry.Catherine McKenna33:14 - 34:43And it is really true. Like, when I, the weird thing, when, so I'd been through COVID. I had three teenagers, one who, as I mentioned, is here. And I really thought hard. Like, I turned 50. And, like, I'm not someone who's, like, big birthdays. It's, like, this existential thing. I wasn't sad. It was, like, whatever. But I was, like, okay, I'm 50 now. Like, you know, there's what do I want to do at 50? I really forced myself to do it. And I really felt like, remember, I got into politics to make change. So I just thought, what is the best way to make change? And I really felt it wasn't, I felt personally for myself at this point, it wasn't through politics. I really wanted to work globally on climate because I really felt we'd done a lot. And I did think we kind of landed a carbon price. and we'd gone through two elections and one at the Supreme Court. So I felt like, okay, people will keep it. We will be able to keep it. So I just felt that there were other things I wanted to do, and I'd really come when I – you know, I said I would leave when I had done what I'd come to do, and that was a really important promise to myself. And I really want to spend time with my kids. Like, you give up a lot in politics, and my kids were going off to university, and I'd been through COVID, and if any parents – anyone been through COVID, But if you're a parent of teenage kids, that was a pretty bleak time. I'd be like, do you guys want to play another game? And they're like, oh my God.Audience Q34:43 - 34:44As if, and then they go to their bed.Catherine McKenna34:44 - 35:15They'd be like, I'm doing school. And I'd be like, as if you're doing school, you're online. Probably playing video game. But what am I going to do, right? Let's go for another walk. They're like, okay, we'll go for a walk if we can go get a slushie. And I was like, I'm going to rot their teeth. And my dad was a dentist. So I was like, this is bad. But this is like, we're engaging for 20 minutes. Like it was really hard. And so I actually, when I made the decision, like, but the counter, the funny thing that is so hilarious now to me is I almost, I was like, I'm not going to leave because if I leave, those haters will thinkCatherine McKenna35:15 - 35:16they drove me out.Nate Erskine-Smith35:16 - 35:18So I was like, okay, I'm going to stay.Catherine McKenna35:18 - 35:20And like, it was bizarre. I was like, okay.Nate Erskine-Smith35:20 - 35:21I don't want to stay when I'm staying. I don't want to stay.Catherine McKenna35:21 - 35:46I don't think this is the most useful point of my, like, you know, part of what I, you know, this is this useful, but I'm going to stay because these random people that I don't care about are actually going to say, ha ha, I chased her out. So then I was like, okay, well, let's actually be rational here and, you know, an adult. So I made the decision. And I actually felt really zen. Like, it was quite weird after I did it, where it was actually politicians who would do it to me. They'd be like, are you okay?Catherine McKenna35:47 - 35:49And I'd be like, I'm amazing.Catherine McKenna35:49 - 36:05What are you talking about? And, like, you know, it was as if leaving politics, I would not be okay. And then people would say, like, is it hard not to have stuff? I was like, I'm actually free. I can do whatever I want. I can go to a microphone now and say whatever. Probably people will care a lot less. But I don't.Nate Erskine-Smith36:05 - 36:07You can do that in politics sometimes too.Catherine McKenna36:08 - 36:08Yes, Nate.Nate Erskine-Smith36:09 - 36:09Yes, Nate.Catherine McKenna36:09 - 39:32We know about that. Yeah, it was just. So anyway, I left politics. I was not. I do think that what I always worried about more than actually the haters thinking they won. It was that women and women and girls would think I love politics because of all the hate. And once again, I'll just repeat it because it's very important to me. The reason I say the things that happened to me in the book is not because I need sympathy. I don't. We do need change. And I felt when I left, I said I would support women and girls in politics. One of the ways I am doing it is making sure that it is a better place than what I had to put up with. Now, sadly, it's not because it's actually worse now. I hear from counselors. I hear from school board trustees. I hear from all sorts of women in politics, but also men, however you identify. Like, it's bad out there. And it's not just online. It is now offline. People think they can shout at you and scream at you and take a video of it, like put it in the dark web or wherever that goes. So, you know, that's bad. But I feel like, you know, people are like, oh, we got to stop that. And that's what's important. There's a nice letter here. So as I said, I have like random things in here. But there's this lovely gentleman named Luigi. I haven't talked about Luigi yet, have I? So I was at the airport and this gentleman came over to me. And I still get a little nervous when people, because I don't know what people are going to do. Like I probably 99% of them are very nice, but it only takes one percent. So I always get like slightly nervous. And I don't mean to be because I'm actually, as you can see, quite gregarious. I like talking to people, but never exactly sure. And he hands me a note and walks away. And I'm like, oh, God, is this like an exploding letter? Who knows? And I open it and it's in the book. So I'll read you his letter because it actually, I put it towards the end because I think it's really important. because you can see I asked Luigi if I could put his note so his note is here so Ms. McKenna I did not want to disturb you as I thought so I thought I would write this note instead because I identify as a conservative in all likelihood we probably would disagree on many issues I find it quite disturbing the level of abuse that you and many other female politicians must endure. It is unfortunate and unacceptable, and I make a point of speaking out when I see it. I hope that you take consolation in the fact that you and others like you are making it easier for the next generation of women, including my three daughters, Luigi. And I was like, this is like the nicest note. And I think that's also what I hope for my book like I hope people are like yeah we can be we can actually disagree but be normal and you know okay with each other and probably most people are um most people are like Luigi are probably not paying attention but there are people that aren't doing that and I think they're also fed sometimes by politicians themselves um who you know really ratchet things up and attack people personally and And so that's a long answer to I can't even remember the question. But I mean, I left politics and I was done. And that's not related to Luigi, but Luigi is a nice guy.Nate Erskine-Smith39:34 - 41:21It's a I think I've got those are my questions around the book. But I do have a couple of questions on climate policy because you're living and breathing that still. And although it's interesting, you comment about politicians. I mean, there's a deep inauthenticity sometimes where politicians treat it as a game. And there's these attacks for clicks. Or in some cases, especially when the conservatives were riding high in the polls, people were tripping over themselves to try and prove to the center that they could be nasty to and that they could score points and all of that. And so they all want to make cabinet by ratcheting up a certain nastiness. But then cameras get turned off and they turn human beings again to a degree. And so that kind of inauthenticity, I think, sets a real nasty tone for others in politics more generally. But on climate policy, I was in Edmonton for our national caucus meeting. I think I texted you this, but I get scrummed by reporters and they're asking me all climate questions. And I was like, oh, this is nice. I'm getting asked climate questions for a change. this is good. This is put climate back on the radar. And then a reporter says, well, are you concerned about the Carney government backtracking on climate commitments? And I said, well, backtracking on climate commitments. I mean, if you read the book Values, it'd be a very odd thing for us to do. Do you worry that we are backtracking? Do you worry that we're not going to be ambitious enough? Or do you think we're still, we haven't yet seen the climate competitiveness strategy? I mean, you know, here's an opportunity to say we should do much more. I don't know. But are you concerned, just given the dynamic in politics as they're unfolding, that we are not going to get where we need to get?Catherine McKenna41:22 - 42:31I mean, look, I'm like you. You know, first of all, I did get into politics. I wasn't an expert on climate, but I cared about climate because I have kids. Like, we have this truck that's coming for our kids, and I'm a mother, so I'm going to do everything I can. I was in a position that I learned a lot about climate policy, and climate policy is complicated, and you've got to get it right. But look, I mean, you know, Mark Carney knows as much about, you know, climate as an economic issue as anyone. And so, I mean, I'm certainly hopeful that you can take different approaches, but at the end of the day, your climate policy requires you to reduce emissions because climate change isn't a political issue. Of course, it's very political. I'm not going to understate it. I know that as much as anyone. But in the end, the science is the science. We've got to reduce our emissions. And you've probably all heard this rant of mine before, but I will bring up my rant again. I sometimes hear about a grand bargain with oil and gas companies. We did a grand bargain with oil and gas companies.Catherine McKenna42:31 - 42:31How did that work out?Catherine McKenna42:31 - 42:32Yeah.Catherine McKenna42:32 - 42:33How did that work out? Tell us. How did that work out?Catherine McKenna42:33 - 47:27Let me tell you how that worked out. So we were working really hard to get a national climate plan. And I saw it as an obligation of mine to work with provinces to build on the policies they had. The Alberta government had stood, so it was the government of Rachel Notley, but with Murray Edwards, who's the head of one of the oil and gas companies, with environmentalists, with economists, with indigenous peoples, saying, okay, this is the climate plan Alberta's going to do. A cap on emissions from oil and gas. a price on pollution, tough methane regs, and, you know, some other things. And so then we were pushed, and it was really hard. I was the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, where we had a climate emergency one day, and then we had a pipeline. The next, I talk about that. That was hard. But the reality is, we felt like that, you know, the Alberta government, we needed to support the NDP Alberta, you know, the NDP government at the time early on. And so then what did we get? Like, where are we right now? We basically, none of the, either those policies are gone or not effective. We got a pipeline at massive taxpayer costs. It's like 500% over. We have oil and gas companies that made historic record profits, largely as a result of Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. What did they do with those profits? They said that they were going to invest in climate solutions. They were going to reduce their emissions. They were all in. But instead, they give their CEOs massive, massive historic bonuses. I'm from Hamilton. That's not a thing when you get these massive historic record bonuses. At the same time, they gave the money back to shareholders who were largely Americans. While they demanded more subsidies to clean up their own pollution, while we are in a climate crisis that is a fossil fuel climate crisis. I now feel taken for a fool because I believed that the oil and gas, like in particular, the oil sands would live up to their end of the bargain. You will see in the book also, I don't know, I probably can't find the page fast enough. I did pinky promises with kids because all these kids came up to me all the time and they said, like, I'm really working hard on climate change. You know, I've got a water bottle. I'm riding my bike. I'm doing like a used clothing drive, whatever it was. And I said, you know what? I'm doing my part, too. Let's do a pinky promise like a pinky swear. And we will promise to continue doing our part. Well, we all did our part. By the way, basically everyone in all sectors have done their part except for oil and gas when they had massive historic record profits. And I wrote a report for the UN Secretary General on greenwashing. And they were exhibit A, exhibit A on what greenwashing looks like, like saying you're doing things that you are not doing and while you're lobbying to kill every policy. So I just hope that people aren't taken for fools again. Like the grand bargain should be they should live up with their end of the bargain. Like that is what bargains are. You got to do what you say you were going to do. And they didn't do it. And as a result, it's extremely hard for Canada to meet our target because they are 30% and growing of our emissions. So I also think like, why are we paying? Why would taxpayers pay? So, look, I don't know. Hard things are hard, as my mug says that I was given by my team because I said it every single day, about 12 times a day. You have to make very tough decisions in government. And we're in a trade war. And also defending our we have to absolutely stand up and defend our sovereignty against the Trump regime, which is very dangerous and very destabilizing. but at the same time we can't not act on climate climate is a here and now problem it's not this fire problem like all these people were evacuated from communities the cost of climate change is massive people are not going to be able to be insured that's already happening and so i just think you gotta walk and chew gum you gotta like figure out how to you know build and grow the economy but you also need to figure out how to tackle climate change and reduce your emissions and to be honest, hold the sector that is most responsible for climate change accountable for their actions and also for their words because they said they were going to act on climate and they supported these policies and they are now still fighting to kill all these policies. You almost can't make it up. And I just don't think Canadians should be taken for fools and I think you've got to make a lot of choices with tax dollars. But I'm not in government And I think, you know, we have, you know, Mark Carney, he's very smart. He's doing a great job of defending Canada. You know, I think like everyone, I'm waiting to see what the climate plan is because it's extremely important. And the climate plan is an economic plan as much as anything else.Nate Erskine-Smith47:28 - 48:23And on that, I would say not just an economic plan, but when you talk about national resiliency, there's a promise in our platform to become a clean energy superpower. There's a promise in our platform to create an east-west transmission grid. And just in Ontario, when you look at the fact that not only are they doubling down on natural gas, but they're also importing natural gas from the United States. When solar, wind, storage is actually more cost effective, investments in east-west transmission grid and in clean energy would make a lot more sense, not only for the climate, not only for the economy, but also as a matter of resiliency and energy independence as well. Okay, those are my questions. So thank you for... Give a round of applause for Calvin. Thank you for joining. With the time that we've got left, Christian, we've got, what, 10, 15 minutes? What time is it? Okay, great. Okay, so does anyone have questions for Ms. McKenna?Audience Q48:25 - 49:09It's a question for both of you, actually. You guys have both been trailblazers in your own right, I think, inside and inside of politics. And you talk a lot about building your community and building your team, whether it's swimming or local politics, and also demanding space in those places to be competitive, all the way up from your local team up to the prime minister. But I'm curious on the other side of that, what does it look like to be a good teammate inside and inside of politics, and how do we support more people, for those of us that might not be running, but trying to get more people like you? Or maybe as an example, somebody that supported you in your run?Catherine McKenna49:11 - 49:56well i mean look i'm trying to do my part and so what i did and it's like what most of you did you go support people that you think are good that are running so i in the last election i went and i supported people that i thought were serious about climate including in ridings that we had never won before um and i also well probably especially those writings um and i also supported women candidates that was just a choice I mean but I think everyone getting involved in politics is a great way to do it but also you know when you think there's someone good that might be good to run you know you know talk to them about it and as I said for women they need to be asked often seven times I think is it so like for women maybe just start asking and if we get to the seventh time maybeNate Erskine-Smith49:56 - 51:38really good women will run and I would add I suppose just on locally I have found one, going into schools and talking politics and encouraging people to think about politics as an opportunity has translated into our youth council. It's then translated into our young liberals internship over the summer where we make sure people are able to be paid to knock on doors and just maintain involvement. And then a number of those people come through either our office and then they're working in politics in the minister's office or in the prime minister's office or they're going to law school or they're adjacent to politics and helping other people and just encouraging people to at least be close to politics so that they see politics as a way to make a difference, there will then be people that will want to run from that or help encourage other people to run. The second thing, and I'll use Mark Holland as an example, when I was running the nomination and I didn't have contacts in the party, but I had someone who knew Mark Holland and he gave me advice to think about it like concentric circles when you're running a nomination where you have people who are close to you and then the people who are close to you will have 10 people that are close to them that maybe they can sign them up for you or maybe they just are they open the door and I you know if so if someone opens the door to a conversation with me I feel pretty confident that I can close the sale but if the door is closed in my face I'm not gonna I'm not gonna even have an opportunity to and so just that idea of building out you start with your your home base and you build out from there build out from there so I just think I have in the last week had conversations with two people who want to run for office at some point, they're both under the age of 30, and I've given that same kind of advice of, here's what worked for me. It may work for you, it may not, it depends, but find where your home base is, and then just grow from there. And so I think just spending time, likeAudience Q51:39 - 52:30giving one's time to give advice like that is really important. Yeah. Building on that, that's, I wanted to, because I think that does nicely into what you said earlier, Catherine, about and really encouraging young women in particular to get into politics. But it's not just, it's all the peripheral people, people that are peripheral to politics, your concentric circles, so that you don't necessarily have to run for an office. And I appreciate what you've done for girls. But I also want you to know that, I mean, I'm older than you, and still you are a role model to me. Not only that, though, I have sons in their mid to late 20s. and I've made sure you're a role model and women like you are a role model to them because I think that's how change begins.Nate Erskine-Smith52:32 - 52:34This was entirely planted just for you, by the way.Catherine McKenna52:35 - 52:37No, but I think that's...Nate Erskine-Smith52:37 - 52:40So I do think that's important, right?Catherine McKenna52:40 - 53:26My book is not... Run Like a Girl, I'm a woman, I identify as a woman and there's a story about how I was told I ran like a girl and so it really bugged me. So it's kind of a particular thing. But I think that is important. Like, you know, this isn't exclusive. Although, you know, there are, you know, certain different barriers, at least that I'm aware of, you know, that if you're a woman, if you're LGBTQ2+, if you're racialized or indigenous, there could be different barriers. But I hear you. And I think, you know, we do have to inspire each other in a whole range of ways. So that is very nice. I hope that, I mean, I'm not, you know, looking to, you know, you know, for kudos. I really, but it is nice to hear that you can inspire people in a whole different way, you know, range of ways.Audience Q53:26 - 53:47It's really, yeah, it's really not about kudos. It's about, you know, it's not that my intent is not just to applaud you. It's just, it's to, it's to recognize you. And that's different, like being seen, holding place, holding space for people to be involved. And so I do have one actual question of this.Catherine McKenna53:48 - 53:50You can ask a question after that.Audience Q53:51 - 53:57Regarding pricing, carbon pricing, how would you communicate the rollout differently?Catherine McKenna53:58 - 54:43Well, I would actually fund it. So hard things at heart, I'm like, okay, well, first of all, we know the Conservatives were terrible. They lied about it. They misled. They didn't talk about the money going back. The problem is, like, we hampered ourselves too. And it was really quite weird because I was like, okay, well, we need an advertising budget because clearly this is a bit of a complicated policy. But the most important thing I need people to know is that we're tackling climate change and we're doing it in a way that we're going to leave low income and middle income people better off. You're going to get more money back. That's very, very important. The second part of the message is as important because I knew the conservatives were going to be like, you're just increasing the price of everything. But we were told we couldn't advertise. And I was like, why? And they said, well, because we're not like conservatives because they had done the, what was the plan?Nate Erskine-Smith54:43 - 54:51The economic action plan. The signs everywhere. They basically, what Ford does now, they were doing it.Catherine McKenna54:51 - 57:40So that sounds really good, except if you're me. Because I was like, well, no one really knows about it. So I'm like one person. And we got some caucus members, not all of them. But Nate will go out and talk about it. Some people will talk about it. But I said, people are entitled to know what government policy is, especially in this particular case, where you've literally got to file your taxes to get the rebate. Because that was the second mistake we made. I was told that we couldn't just do quarterly checks, which would be much more obvious to people, even if it was automatically deposited, you actually named it properly, which was another problem. But, you know, all of these things that are just normal things. And instead, we were told, I was told by the folks in the Canada Revenue Agency, there's no way we could possibly do quarterly checks. after COVID, when we did everything, we blew everything up, then they were like, oh, actually, and this was after me, but they were like, we can do quarterly chaps. I was like, well, that's really helpful. Like, that would have been nice, like a little bit longer, you know, like the beginning of this. And so I think like, we do need to be sometimes very tough, like, don't do things that sound great and are not, are really hampering your ability to actually deliver a policy in a way that people understand. So like, it's just a hard policy. Like, you know, people say, would you have done, what would you have done differently? Yes, I would have communicated it differently. I tried. Like, I was out there. I went to H&R Block because I saw a sign, and they were like, climate action incentive. Oh, by the way, we couldn't call it a rebate because the lawyers told us injustice. We couldn't do that, and I'm a lawyer. I was like, what? And so I should have fought that one harder too, right? Like, I mean, there's so many fights you can have internally as well, but, you know, there I am. I was like, oh, H&R Block, they're doing free advertising for us because they wanted people to file their taxes, so then I would make, I said to all caucus members, you need to go to your HR block and get a family. I don't even want to see you necessarily. I want a family to be sitting down being told they're getting money back. And, and so like, look, I think it's just a hard policy. And, and what happened though, I mean, read hard things are hard, but the chapter, but it's, um, and people will be like, I'm definitely not reading that chapter. You can skip chapters. This book is like, go back and forth, rip things out. I don't, you don't have to read it in chronological order or read particular chapters. But was if the price is going to go up every year, every year you better be ready to fight for it because every year you're literally creating this conflict point where conservatives are like, they're on it. They're like spending so much tax dollars to mislead people. Remember the stickers on the pump that fell off? That was quite funny. They actually fell off. But you're going to have to fight for it. And so we just, it's a hard, it's a very hard policy. I did everything I could. And I don't live with life with regrets. I think it was really important. And by the way, it's a case study outside of Canada.Catherine McKenna57:41 - 57:42Everyone's like, Canada.Catherine McKenna57:42 - 57:52I was like, oh, yeah, there is like a little different ending than you might want to know about what happened. But they're like, yes, this is, of course, how we should do it. Should be a price on pollution. Give the money back.Nate Erskine-Smith57:52 - 58:38I went to a movie at the Beach Cinema with my kids. And there was an ad. This is years ago. But there was an ad. So we were advertising. But it was advertising about the environment climate plan. and it was like people in canoes. And I was like, what is this trying to, like we're spending how much money on this to tell me what exactly? And I went to, Stephen was the minister, and I went, Stephen, can we please advertise Carbon Pricing Works, it's 10 plus percent of our overall plan, and 80% of people get more money back or break even. Just tell people those three things, I don't need the canoe. and then he was like oh we can't we we they tell it they tell us we can't do it no no and that'sCatherine McKenna58:38 - 58:55what you're often told like it is kind of weird internally the amount of times you're told no like on advertising it is a particular thing because like and so then you're like having a fight about comms i was like oh my gosh can we don't think the canoe is going to win this carbon and it didn't turns out i love canoeing by the way so maybe it would have convinced me if i wasNate Erskine-Smith58:55 - 59:01i think last question we'll finish with that with maryland hi i'm maryland and i also happen to beAudience Q59:01 - 01

In this episode we dive into a raw and unfiltered conversation about the support men need in relationships and why it so often gets overlooked. This is a conversation about language, gender, balance and responsibility. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Australia's workforce is almost evenly split between men and women, yet fewer than one in four Australians work in a gender balanced occupation. But why does it matter? Turns out, it's bad for workers, businesses and the economy. In this podcast episode, host Kat Clay is joined by Jessica Geraghty to discuss her latest research on why fixing the gender balance matters. Read the article: https://grattan.edu.au/news/fixing-the-workforce-gender-balance-is-in-everyones-interest/

Live from Diriyah Art Futures in Riyadh, we're joined by Haytham Nawar, the director of Diriyah Art Futures, and Ala Younis who co-curated its latest exhibition, which delves into the New Media Art scene in the Arab world. They explore the lack of recognition for Arab names in global media art history, discuss the significance of the word "archeology" in the exhibition's subtitle "Maknana: An Archaeology of New Media Art in the Arab World", and highlight contributions by artists like Lucien Samaha, the first person to click a digital image. The conversation also covers the generational and geographical aspects of New Media Art in the Arab world, and the challenges of curating such an exhibition. The episode provides an in-depth look at the themes, artists, and historical context behind the pioneering Diriyah Art Futures project. 00:00 Introduction 01:47 Exploring the Exhibition's Themes and Research04:30 Historical Context and Artist Contributions10:43 Curatorial Approach and Challenges27:31 Defining the Arab World in Art30:48 Misunderstood and Favorite Art Pieces31:23 Curatorial Challenges and Artwork Highlights33:58 More Artworks and Multiple Interpretations39:03 The Role of New Media in Telling the Arab World's Story41:46 Audience Questions and Curatorial Insights49:54 Gender Balance and Artist Selection Criteria51:50 New Media Art and Public Sphere59:11 Future Iterations and Ongoing Research Ala Younis is an artist, with curatorial, film and publishing projects. Using objects, film and printed matter, she often seeks instances where historical and political events collapse into personal ones. She holds a BSc in Architecture from University of Jordan and MRes in Visual Cultures from Goldsmiths, University of London. She co-curated Diriyah Art Futures' exhibition "Maknana: An Archaeology of New Media Art in the Arab World."Connect with Ala Younis

What if the key to transforming entrepreneurship lies in who gets to be an investor? In this episode of The Angel Next Door Podcast, host Marcia Dawood invites us to consider the power of opening up investment opportunities to more women and how it could change the face of business leadership.Our guest, Patricia Lizarraga, is a trailblazing finance expert who created the Hypatia Women CEO ETF (WCEO ETF) after realizing the unique strengths women bring to executive roles. Her fund allows anyone—with as little as $30—to invest in every U.S. public company run by a woman CEO, breaking down traditional barriers and shifting perceptions of who can be an investor.Listeners will gain insights into how the WCEO ETF is outperforming industry benchmarks and why initiatives like the “100 Shares for Women” campaign are critical to advancing gender equity. This episode is essential listening for anyone curious about making an impact through investing, expanding their financial confidence, or supporting more women at the helm of big business. To get the latest from Patricia Lizarraga, you can follow her below!https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricializarraga/https://www.hypatianation.com Sign up for Marcia's newsletter to receive tips and the latest on Angel Investing!Website: www.marciadawood.comLearn more about the documentary Show Her the Money: www.showherthemoneymovie.comAnd don't forget to follow us wherever you are!Apple Podcasts: https://pod.link/1586445642.appleSpotify: https://pod.link/1586445642.spotifyLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/angel-next-door-podcast/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theangelnextdoorpodcast/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marciadawood

In this episode of the Elevate Women in Tech podcast, host Kellie Kwarteng engages with cybersecurity professionals Lisa Ventura MBE FCIIS (founder of Cybersecurity Unity), Richard Wilson (Group Head of Information Security at Spirax Group), and Amelia Hewitt (founder of Hewett Partnerships Limited and Cybaid) to explore the critical importance of genderDiversity in cybersecurity.Key Topics Covered:The Business Case for Diversity: Statistics show cybersecurity teams with above-average gender diversity are 35% more likely to identify novel attack vectors and 21% more effective at detecting security incidents before significant damage occurs. Recruitment Challenges: With women making up just 22% of the UK cybersecurity workforce and only 19% of FTSE 100 CISOs, the panel discusses the substantial skills gap in the industry and explores how to attract diverse talent through skill-based hiring rather than focusing solely on traditional qualifications.Early Education Misconceptions: Amelia shares how career perceptions form as early as age seven, emphasising the need to introduce cybersecurity concepts in primary education and challenge stereotypes about required skills for the profession.AI and Diverse Teams: The panel examines how diverse teams create more resilient security solutions by challenging assumptions, avoiding groupthink, and spotting blind spots in systems - particularly vital when developing AI security measures.Retention Strategies: The conversation highlights the importance of retention through inclusive policies like caregiver allowances, flexible working arrangements, and benefits that support all employees' needs, not just parents.Featured Insights:The myth that cybersecurity requires a strong technical background prevents many talented individuals from applyingAI bias in recruitment tools may be filtering out qualified candidates from underrepresented groupsThe cybersecurity threat landscape is evolving, requiring diverse perspectives to anticipate and counter new attack vectorsCreating truly inclusive workplaces requires understanding what different employees actually want, not making assumptionsWhy Listen:This episode delivers practical advice for organisations seeking to address the cybersecurity skills gap by attracting and retaining diverse talent. For individuals considering a career in cybersecurity, the panel offers encouragement to look beyond traditional pathways and recognise the value of varied skills and perspectives in the industry.Listen now to discover how gender diversity creates stronger cybersecurity teams and what actions you can take to break the binary in your organisation.Keywords:Gender equity, cybersecurity, diversity, recruitment, retention, women in tech, skills, talent attraction, neurodiversity, AI in cybersecurity, career pathways, inclusive workplace, skills gap

Emma meets Frances Palmer, Associate Director at Gleeds; Dave Corbin FAPM, Head of Client Accounts at Gleeds; and leadership and culture coach Anita Phagura, who previously worked in infrastructure project management.Frances and Dave helped set up APM's Built Environment Interest Network last year. With a special focus on diversity and inclusion for the week of International Women's Day, our guests explore how the construction sector can become more diverse and inclusive, what actions really work and how change can be accelerated.Find Anita's research at: https://anitaphagura.com/raise-the-bar Contact us: apmpodcast@thinkpublishing.co.uk 

India has one of the largest youth populations in the world, yet digital accessibility remains a challenge—only 54% of households have computers, and nearly 40% lack access to one. However, with 88% of the population using smartphones, mobile technology presents an opportunity to bridge this gap.In this episode, The Rise of Gen Z Girls in Tech, we sit down with Mayank, the visionary behind Coding Pro, to explore how AI-driven learning and innovative mobile applications are ensuring equal access to coding education for students, regardless of their background.We discuss the impact of social norms on STEM careers, the challenges of parental hesitation and cultural expectations, and how AI-powered tools are helping families embrace digital education. Mayank shares how Coding Pro's scholarships and mentorship programs are supporting underprivileged girls, fostering a future where young women take the lead in tech.We also explore Iraaj, India's first humanoid robot, and its role in equipping students with real-world skills, as well as the emergence of AI-powered universities and Techno Schools that will redefine learning over the next decade.This conversation is about breaking barriers, reshaping education, and preparing India's youth—especially Gen Z girls—for the digital revolution.

In this episode, we sit down with Sunita R. Cherian, Senior Vice President – Group Human Resources at Wipro Limited, to explore how the company is leading the way in Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging (DEIB) in the tech industry.  With over two decades of expertise in Human Capital Strategy, Sustainability, and Diversity & Inclusion, Sunita has played a key role in shaping Wipro's DEI initiatives, including the Women of Wipro platform. As a former Chair of NASSCOM's National D&I Council, she has been a driving force behind inclusion efforts at Wipro and beyond.  Wipro is recognized as a DEI Lighthouse by the World Economic Forum, setting industry benchmarks through impactful policies, leadership programs, and gender diversity initiatives. In this conversation, we discuss:  - What it means to be a DEI Lighthouse and how Wipro has set itself apart in advancing diversity in tech  - How Wipro integrates DEI into its core business strategy, ensuring it goes beyond corporate rhetoric  - The company's efforts to accelerate women's leadership in tech through mentorship, sponsorship, and leadership programs  - How Wipro designs inclusive hiring and talent development programs to support women and underrepresented groups  - The policies and programs that have driven intersectionality, supporting cultural, socio-economic, and neurodiverse inclusion  - How Wipro is leveraging AI and technology to advance diversity and inclusion  - Key lessons for Nordic companies and how they can adopt best practices from Wipro's DEI journey  - Sunita's top action for individuals and organizations to create sustainable gender diversity in the workplace  Tune in to gain valuable insights from one of the leading voices in DEI in tech and learn how companies can build more inclusive and equitable workplaces.  Listen now.

India has built one of the world's strongest pipelines for women in STEM and technology, yet in the Nordics, where gender equality is a global benchmark, female representation in IT and tech leadership remains a challenge.  In this episode, Sunita Mohanty, Senior Vice President and Chief Investment Officer at Invest India, shares insights on what's driving India's success and what the Nordics can learn. With experience leading diversity and workforce transformation at Google Singapore, Sunita discusses the key policies, corporate initiatives, and cultural shifts that have shaped India's growing female tech workforce.  We explore:  - How India became a global leader in female STEM graduates  - The role of government policies like Vigyan Jyoti and WISE-KIRAN in bridging gender gaps in tech  - Lessons from India's structured digital skilling programs and corporate-government partnerships  - The future of women in AI, quantum computing, biotech, and emerging tech fields  - Sunita's personal journey and the impact of mentorship and leadership in creating lasting change  This conversation highlights the importance of mentorship, policy support, and workplace inclusion in building a more diverse and innovative tech sector.  Listen now to understand how gender diversity in technology can be strengthened worldwide.  The Nordic Council of Ministers supports this podcast.

In this episode of Good Morning Liberty, hosts Nate Thurston and Charles Chuck Thompson discuss various absurdities and controversies, including the ranking of the third tallest libertarian, Elon Musk-related hysteria, and irrational claims about the NBA trade deadline being akin to slavery. They also dive into Elizabeth Warren's defense of vaccine manufacturers, the DNC's gender-balancing rules, Idris Elba's proposal to redesign kitchen knives, and a noteworthy incident involving Apple's user privacy under threat from the UK's government. Tune in for an in-depth look at the week's most nonsensical news stories and listener-submitted 'dumb bleeps'. (02:43) Musk Freakout (18:44) DOGE (20:54) Tax Loopholes and Government Spending (26:13) Aviation Safety and Elon Musk's Involvement (30:41) Legos and Gender (34:13) Airline Seatbelts (38:27) Racism and Historical Oppression (40:32) NBA Trade Deadline and Modern Slavery (43:49) Elizabeth Warren and Vaccine Manufacturers (46:59) DNC Leadership and Gender Balance (51:14) UK's Knife Ban (55:42) Trump's Gaza Strip Proposal   Links:   https://gml.bio.link/   YOUTUBE:   https://bit.ly/3UwsRiv   RUMBLE:   https://rumble.com/c/GML   Check out Martens Minute!   https://martensminute.podbean.com/   Follow Josh Martens on X:   https://twitter.com/joshmartens13   Join the private discord & chat during the show!   joingml.com   Bank on Yourself bankonyourself.com/gml   Get FACTOR Today! FACTORMEALS.com/gml50   Good Morning Liberty is sponsored by BetterHelp! Rediscover your curiosity today by visiting Betterhelp.com/GML (Get 10% off your first month)     Protect your privacy and unlock the full potential of your streaming services with ExpressVPN. Get 3 more months absolutely FREE by using our link EXPRESSVPN.com/GML  

Aldagh McDonagh, Chair of Women for Election, discusses her disappointment at the number of women in Cabinet and appointed junior ministers

Is Dáil disruption Sinn Féin's key tactic as it looks ahead to five more years in opposition? And does Mary Lou have an eye on the Áras? Host: Kevin Doyle Guests: Louise O'Reilly and Gabija GataveckaiteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For our first Talking Europe interview with the new crop of EU Commissioners, we host Hadja Lahbib, who is in charge of preparedness and crisis management, as well as equality. Lahbib, a former foreign minister of Belgium, talks about the challenges of her extremely broad portfolio, covering Ukraine, Gaza, Syria, Afghanistan and Sudan. A common thread is the difficulties faced by women and girls in crisis situations around the world – something that links up with Lahbib's efforts to promote gender balance and women's rights in the EU itself.

From Cruise CEO to World Cup Chair, Lisa Lutoff-Perlo shares her remarkable journey breaking barriers as Celebrity Cruises' first female CEO and now leading the 2026 FIFA World Cup host committee. In this candid conversation, she opens up about navigating the male-dominated cruise industry, leading through COVID-19's unprecedented challenges, championing gender diversity, and orchestrating major transformations. Lisa reveals powerful leadership lessons learned over her 40-year career - from starting as a door-to-door sales rep to becoming a trailblazing executive. She discusses building high-performing teams, turning setbacks into motivation, and her mission to create opportunities for women in leadership. Whether you're an aspiring leader or seasoned executive, Lisa's insights on resilience, authenticity and embracing new challenges will inspire you to dream bigger and believe in yourself.CHAPTERS:00:00 - Lisa Lutoff-Perlo's Backstory02:06 - Gender Balance in the Cruise Industry07:01 - Leading Through COVID-1911:35 - Lessons Learned from the Pandemic15:37 - FIFA World Cup 2026 Preparation18:47 - Current Ramp-Up for the World Cup22:10 - Gender Diversification in Leadership29:07 - Advocating for Yourself in the Workplace37:25 - Building Your Personal Brand40:00 - The Strength in Asking for Help42:25 - Future Plans for Julie43:59 - Embracing New Opportunitieshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-lutoff-perlo/https://lisalutoffperlo.com/ABOUT OUR HOST:Ken Eslick is an Entrepreneur, Author, Podcaster, Tony Robbins Trainer, Life Coach, Husband of 35+ Years, and Grandfather. Ken currently spends his time as the President & Founder of The Leaders Lab where he and his team focus on Leadership Talent Acquisition. They get founders the next level C-Suite Leaders they need to go from being an Inc. Magazine 5000 fastest growing company to $100,000,000 + in revenue.  #seattlesports #worldcuporganizingcommittee #pressconference #seattleLisa Lutoff-Perlo is President & CEO of the FIFA World Cup 2026™ Miami Host Committee, overseeing strategy, fundraising, fan activations, and operations for Miami's seven matches in the tournament. A recognized leader in global business, hospitality, and sports, she was honored with the South Florida Business Journal and Forbes Travel Guide Lifetime Achievement Award.Previously, Lisa was Vice Chairman, External Affairs for Royal Caribbean Group, and from 2014 to 2023, served as President & CEO of Celebrity Cruises, becoming the first woman to lead a Royal Caribbean brand. She is credited with transforming Celebrity Cruises through bold innovations in ship design, service, and digital strategy, and for driving the company's post-pandemic recovery.Lisa is a trailblazer in diversity and inclusion, making history with the first all-female bridge crew and significantly increasing the percentage of women in leadership roles. Under her leadership, Celebrity Cruises became the first brand to earn Forbes Travel Guide's star ratings for its ships.She serves on the Board of AutoNation and chairs the Hornblower Group, and is the author of the best-selling leadership book Making Waves: A Woman's Rise to the Top Using Smarts, Heart and Courage.You can learn more about Ken and his team attheleaderslab.coListen to more episodes on Mission Matters:https://missionmatters.com/author/ken-eslick/

Malcolm Byrne, Fianna Fáil TD for Wicklow-Wexford; Thomas Gould, Sinn Féin TD for Cork North Central; Siona Cahill, Activist and Communications Consultant; Dr. Jennifer Kavanagh, Lecturer in Law at the South East Technological University; Christina Finn, Political Editor with TheJournal.ie

Clare's first female TD has condemned what she's called the "extraordinary slowness" of achieving fair gender representation in Irish politics. The upcoming General Election will be the first in which all parties are required to field 40% female candidates to receive full State funding. Eight women have declared for the General Election in Clare so far which is the highest number ever in the county and makes it the first time more women than men have run here. Kilkee native Madeleine Taylor-Quin, who became Clare's first female TD when elected for Fine Gael in 1981, says given the lack of progress on gender balance in the Dáil, she fully supports gender quotas.

Is Your Podcast Ready for the Spotify Purge? Spotify abruptly removed 500 music-centric podcasts, such as study playlists and sound machines. What could this mean for creators who incorporate podsafe music into their shows? We're also buzzing about the persistent gender imbalance in the industry and YouTube's exciting new 'Hype' feature. Tune in for the details on these developments and learn what this could mean for your podcast. Episode Highlights: [3:27] AI and ChatGPT Advanced Voice Feature [6:40] Spotify's Removal of Music Podcast Episodes [24:40] Discussion on Spotify's Music Policy [25:17] YouTube's New Feature for Emerging Creators [36:10] Gender Imbalance in Podcasting [37:55] Solutions to Address Gender Imbalance [52:28] Walk for CMT Links & Resources: The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podpage.com/pmc PodNews: www.PodNews.net Reversing the Algorithm: soundsprofitable.com/article/reversing-the-algorithm/ Spotify's Music Podcast Purge covered by The Feed start at 19:00: open.spotify.com/episode/1XPxCRohEO7YZ2GhAR85nt?si=b9e799e1cf654e29 The Feed:  www.thefeed.libsyn.com Contribute to Marc Ronick's 4th Annual Lansing Michigan Walk For CMT: https://bit.ly/pmccmt⁠ Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow  and continue to bring valuable content to our community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w Brought to you by ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠ and ⁠NextGenPodcaster.com⁠ Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at: https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/ or marc@ironickmedia.com

Show host Gene Tunny interviews Russell Harrison, CEO of Spartans Boxing Club. They discuss the rise of boutique boxing gyms, the benefits of boxing for fitness and mental health, and the challenges of expanding a fitness franchise globally. Russell describes how Spartans uses technology to enhance the member experience and how boxing training can benefit corporate executives and employees. Hear from Russell about Spartans' "White Collar Boxing" events, where high-performing corporate executives and professionals undergo 12 weeks of boxing training, culminating in a black-tie gala event. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please email us at contact@economicsexplored.com  or send a voice message via https://www.speakpipe.com/economicsexplored. What's covered in EP252Introduction (0:00)Ensuring Safety in Boxing (3:13)Fitness Benefits of Boxing (6:01)Training and Techniques at Spartans Boxing Clubs (8:32)Expansion into the Australian Market (10:20)Boutique Fitness Market and Franchise Model (13:43)Gender Balance and Market Demographics (35:03)Corporate Wellness and Holistic Health (35:20)White Collar Boxing (43:10)Final Thoughts and Future Plans (45:16)TakeawaysCommunity-Driven Gyms: Spartans Boxing Club focuses on creating accessible, community-oriented gyms that cater to a wide demographic, including families and professionals.Franchise Success: Spartans Boxing's franchise model is designed to be mutually beneficial, with a focus on providing value and support to franchisees.Holistic Wellness: Beyond physical fitness, Spartans Boxing integrates mental health programs, showing the importance of a holistic approach to well-being.Global Expansion: Spartans Boxing has successfully expanded into multiple countries by adapting its business model to local markets and regulations.Boutique Fitness Trends: The rise of boutique gyms like Spartans Boxing reflects a shift towards more personalised, community-focused fitness experiences.Links relevant to the conversationSpartans Boxing Club:https://spartansboxing.com/A study reporting “Boxing appears to be an effective treatment for persons with Parkinson's disease”:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9837687/Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee's Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED 

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How can we change the gender balance in traditionally male dominated fields? The tech industry is one that's been known to be male dominated. I have a lot of clients in the tech industry, and some of them feel very daunted by this problem, often wondering if they'll ever get a chance to get the recognition they deserve. So I'm so excited to have this conversation with a leader in tech that's been a change agent in this way, and to learn more about what's happened to help her be more successful in her career. 01:41 — What Sumi did to bring more gender balance to the leadership team at Microsoft 09:59 — The role Sumi's network has played in her ability to develop a high-performing team 12:32 — How she has navigated to senior leadership levels in a competitive industry 16:20 — The biggest changes she's had to navigate to succeed in a senior leadership role

This week, we're talking about marriage! Sociology Professor LaToya Council joins the pod this week to help us navigate Black couple's marital waters.. and Samantha hangs in there as Remoy walks us through the complicated history of wedding traditions before her upcoming I Dos.Remoy takes us back to the first wedding ever, which took place in China. Find out what a man had to do to win the hand of the king's daughter. At this wedding, the bride didn't wear white. Remoy puts us on game about the painting that started it all. LaToya and Samantha react to the infamous painting of women being auctioned off at a marriage market.

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One year ago, a chance meeting at the South Summit in Spain sparked a conversation that would inspire this very episode of the Darin Olien Show. My guest Robyn O'Brien is the definition of unstoppable, successful, and unbelievably interesting.   Robyn truly is a multifaceted human which leads us to have a multifaceted conversation where we discuss about the transformative journeys of resilience and leadership, the complexities of physical and mental healing, the personal courage required to challenge systemic issues, the importance of authenticity, female empowerment, and balancing high achievement with self-care, the potential for a more conscious and values-driven approach to leadership and finance, and so much more.    Robyn O'Brien is a best selling author, most recently of Seeding Innovation, on leadership and courage, and she is a Partner at Montcalm, an impact investment platform, redefining the financial system with a deep commitment to transparency, diversification, sustainability and performance. She is a Fulbright scholar, author, investor, advocate and keynote speaker on leadership, courage and global food systems. In 2020, she was recognized on Forbes Impact 50 List for her work at the intersection of agriculture and climate.    What we discuss:  (00:02) Injury Recovery and Reflections (04:41) Unhealthy Truth (13:33) Corporate Agriculture, Operating System, and Resilience (18:59) Journey of Courage and Love (28:30) The Power of Authenticity and Support (41:53) Facing Inherited Systems and Innovations (46:39) Alchemy of Emotions in Leadership (01:02:05) Exploring Shame, Activism, and Gender Balance (01:14:51) Empowering Female Leadership and Finance (01:19:36) Seeding Innovation and Atomic Courage   …and more!   Don't forget:   You can order now by heading to darinolien.com/fatal-conveniences-book or order now on Amazon.   Thank you to our sponsors: Bite: Go to trybite.com/DARIN20 or use code DARIN20 for 20% off your first order. Fatty15 : Get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to fatty15.com/DARIN and using code DARIN at checkout. Therasage: Go to www.therasage.com and use code DARIN at checkout for 15% off TruNiagen: Go to www.truniagen.com and use code Darin20 for 20% off   Find more from Darin: Website: https://darinolien.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/Darinolien/ Book: https://darinolien.com/fatal-conveniences-book/ Down to Earth: https://darinolien.com/down-to-earth/   Find more from Robyn O'Brien: Website: https://robynobrien.com/  Book: Seeding Innovation Instagram: @robynobrienusa

I chat with Mark Morris, a husband, father, and advocate for equity and inclusion with a special interest in gender equality.  Mark shares his personal commitment to social justice and gender equality, highlighting his decision to take his wife's surname and his active efforts to promote fairness in the workplace and at home. Mark passionately speaks about the importance of challenging gender stereotypes from a young age, sharing insights on societal pressures, the impact of early messaging on children, and what we can do to change the perceptions. We discuss the importance of having blunt, in-your-face conversations about gender biases to call out bad behaviour, and the need for more visible advocacy in public spaces, from billboards to social media. Don't miss this episode if you're passionate about making a tangible difference in gender equality. Mark's practical suggestions and hopeful outlook will inspire you to take small yet impactful steps towards a more balanced and fair society. How to Connect with Mark: LinkedIn: Mark Morris Email: mark@mark-morris.me Connect with Carina and Working Mumma Follow us on Instagram @workingmummacommuity for regular inspiration and tips on working mum life or connect with Carina on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/carina-obrien.  Join the Working Mumma Village and find your community of support to help you navigate the juggle of work/mum life 

Regina Curry, chief diversity officer at Franklin Templeton, joins Emma McGarthy, head of the Sustainable Policy Institute at OMFIF, to discuss the importance of gender balance in financial institutions. They examine the necessary benchmarks, key indicators and information required to retain and encourage women in leadership positions as well as how to foster inclusive cultures and overcome barriers. 

How essential is gender balance for business success? Does your workplace view challenges as growth opportunities? After a health crisis, Kathy Coleman shifted from a “just get on with it” mindset to valuing the vital role of emotional intelligence and gender balance in thriving organisations. Now through her work in gender balance and corporate transformation, Kathy emphasises the importance of balanced leadership traits for success, happiness, and well-being. Challenging the status quo and redefining workplace dynamics to foster a more fulfilling professional life, Kathy pioneers a different approach to gender balance: one that delivers transformational change for individuals, organisations and bottom-line profit.   KEY TAKEAWAY ‘A more feminine approach is not just let's be clear about why we want to do this, but also let's enjoy the journey of getting there, and let's make it mean something for people, not just for profit.'   ABOUT KATHY Kathy Coleman spent over three decades delivering transformative change programmes on behalf of CapGemini, Deloitte and EY. Conforming to the traditional masculine characteristics of leadership took its toll and Kathy suffered a severe health scare. Inspired by her own journey and recovery Kathy now champions a paradigm shift that allows women (and men) to embrace their feminine leadership traits and find success, happiness and wellbeing from a more balanced and authentic place.   CONNECT WITH KATHY   https://www.linkedin.com/in/counter-culture https://www.instagram.com/kathycolemancoaching?igsh=eGVqdWJiNmFhajZn https://www.counter-culture.co.uk/ kathy@kathycoleman.co.uk   RESOURCE Hofstede research - https://www.hofstede-insights.com/   BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS* You Can Heal Your Life by Louise Hay - https://amzn.eu/d/dzhjd7S   Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez - https://amzn.eu/d/1feWQdc   ABOUT THE HOST - AMY ROWLINSON Amy is a Life Purpose Coach, Podcast Strategist, Top 1% Global Podcaster, Speaker and Mastermind Host. Amy works with individuals to improve productivity, engagement and fulfilment, to banish overwhelm, underwhelm and frustration and to welcome clarity, achievement and purpose.   WORK WITH AMY Amy inspires and empowers entrepreneurial clients to discover the life they dream of by assisting them to focus on their WHY with clarity uniting their passion and purpose with a plan to create the life they truly desire. If you would to focus on your WHY and discuss purpose coaching or you want to launch a purposeful podcast, then please book a free 30 min call via www.calendly.com/amyrowlinson/enquirycall   KEEP IN TOUCH WITH AMY Sign up for the weekly Friday Focus - https://www.amyrowlinson.com/subscribe-to-weekly-newsletter   CONNECT WITH AMY https://linktr.ee/AmyRowlinson   HOSTED BY: Amy Rowlinson   DISCLAIMER The views, thoughts and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to the host and guest speakers. Please conduct your own due diligence. *As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

This episode of the Privilege Eruption podcast discusses the evolution of breakthrough thinking around power, privilege, and purpose in the workplace. It highlights the challenges faced by women in the construction industry, with historical context and recent statistics showing progress towards gender parity. The episode aims to inspire leaders to create a culture of inclusion and belonging for all employees. KEY TAKEAWAYS The construction industry has historically struggled with gender balance, but progress is being made towards achieving equal representation. Setting bold goals and having genuine leadership support are crucial for driving systemic change towards diversity and inclusion. Creating a culture of collaboration and inclusivity requires not only focusing on individual women but also on transforming the entire organisational ecosystem. Having sponsors who advocate for and support women's career growth is essential for achieving gender balance in leadership roles. Embracing flexible and agile working practices can help attract and retain diverse talent in traditionally male-dominated industries like construction. BEST MOMENTS "You want to create success through connection and belonging, and you're unsure about how to make it happen." - Ishreen Bradley "The big driver for the business was having the best talent around the table, to have cognitive thinking around the table, and encouraging the best talent to come through the door." - Kate Jansen "One woman on a board can be more destructive than no women at all if I'm honest." - Kate Jansen "The beauty of a complementary team is where you don't have the skills, you build the people around you that do." - Kate Jansen "It doesn't take a lot for them to be able to step back, gain the confidence and let go." - Ishreen Bradley VALUABLE RESOURCES Privilege Survey  https://intelligentlinking261447.typeform.com/to/SNkQvD0v Website: https://belongingpioneers.com/privilege-research-and-podcast Email: equitychampions@belongingpioneers.com Useful links: https://linktr.ee/BelongingPioneers ABOUT THE GUEST Kate Jansen, FCIPD, Director of Organisation Development & Learning for Willmott Dixon Ltd. Kate has been with Willmott Dixon for over 18 years, always in a people focused role, developing and protecting the culture that evolves from the deeply laid roots of the company's family values. In her latest role, Kate is responsible for developing a learning environment that supports technical advancements and modern leadership methods, developing talent and succession for the future. In 2022, Kate led the campaign that awarded Willmott Dixon as the ‘Best Large Company' to work for in the UK and introduced the Willmott Dixon University. Kate has a passion for early careers and women in construction, both of which she leads as an Industry advocate and mentor. ABOUT THE HOSTS Ishreen Bradley, a Strategic Pioneer, excels in guiding Professional Leaders through complex challenges with clarity, confidence, and courage. She focuses on cultivating inclusive cultures and authentic leadership, offering senior leaders advice, consultancy, training, and coaching. Kami Nuttall, a workplace culture expert with over 20 years of experience, delves into governance, risk management, and the human experience in organizations. Trained by the Anti-Discrimination Foundation and a qualified hypnotherapist, she's passionate about fostering psychologically safe, inclusive workplace cultures. Kami champions accountability, believing organizations should prioritize both employees and customers, creating environments grounded in inclusivity and trust. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaminuttall-cultureguru-cultureauditor/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/ishreenbradley/Privilege, Eruption, Culture, Diversity, inclusion, Equity, diverse, cultural, impact, power: https://privilege-eruption.com

We're delighted to welcome Denise Wilson OBE to the podcast. Denise is the former chief executive of the FTSE Women Leaders Review and has led the UK's business task force to increase the number of women on boards and in leadership positions. She has made a significant contribution to gender equality in British business and is passionate about empowering women.We discuss:How the UK made such massive strides in closing the gender gap at board levelWhat still needs to change for gender equalityHow to get to an Exec Director positionWhy as a parent everything doesn't need to be perfect but “good enough”We hope you enjoy the conversation.This episode is part of the future of work series, where we explore how work will change in the future to help everyone thrive and progress their careers equitably regardless of circumstances.Show Notes:Connect with Denise Wilson OBE on LinkedIn.Download the latest FTSE Women Leaders ReviewDownload the Leaders Plus Mental Load ChecklistFind out more about the Leaders Plus Senior Directors Fellowship

This week we look at a North Korean TikTok hit; Milel's Argentina; Country of the week - Sudan;  Kate Forbes becomes Deputy First Minister;  Pete Wishart speaks in Mosque; Gender Balance and the Garrick Club; the too macho Australian Army;  NSW Council bans Same Sex Parenting Book;  Astra Zeneca Vaccine Withdrawn;  Michael Palin's Nigeria; Trans Darts; Dog ice cream; Islamic Housing in London;  Church of Scotland on 'cusp of revival';  and Breathless.....with music from Planxty, Ahla Minik, Mason Williams, Marcello,  Bach and Nick Cave....

Sitting down with the female version of me, this conversation was non stop knowledge bombs:Why it's important to balance your masculine and feminine energy How personal development makes you a better partnerWhy discipline and grit is important in promoting true change How a community focused on accountability is unwaveringAnd SO MUCH MORE!Follow Dijana here: https://www.instagram.com/dijanadjukicc/https://www.coreyboutwell.net/speaksoon Join the masterclass here: https://masterclass.coreyboutwell.net/ascendregistration The Next Level Tickets Here: https://thenextlevel.coreyboutwell.net/2024signupSupport the show►Work with me: Book In A Call Here

Following the FAI's commitment to reforms as a condition of a 2020 bailout, a recent report highlights the extension granted for achieving gender balance on its board. Thomas Byrne, Minister for Sport, shares insights on the progress and challenges faced by the FAI.

ENVISIONing Gender Authenticity with Jean Malpas. Jean Malpas is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Licensed Mental Health Counselor, founder of the Gender Family Project, at the Ackerman Institute for the Family in NY. He was born in Belgium. With a radio and TV news editor father; and a social worker mother, in a family where divorce, chronic illness, developmental disabilities, and differences of identities and opinions gave him his earliest and most valuable training in family dynamics and problem-solving. He knew early on that he was gay and, after experiencing gender expression-based bullying in middle and high school, he moved to Brussels to attend college and open his horizons. There He discovered a vibrant academic and professional life and the thrill and beauty of queer communities. With the support of the Belgian American Education Foundation (BAEF) scholarship, he moved to New York City for a postgraduate year of research and study at NYU. What was supposed to be a year abroad turned out to be the beginning of his career and life in the big city. Twenty years later, he is proud to call NYC his home. Jean's site  |  IG  Here is the link for the NEW BEGINNING workshop. https://www.auroramorfin.com/new-beginning-workshop-self A self-paced recorded workshop, with an open community during the course, including a live call midway and another at the end. Last year, I received many requests for different times, days, and languages. I heard YOU, and with the location of my wide audience being miles apart, I wanted to find a solution. Latinos, Americans, Europeans, or else, it doesn't matter where you are; what matters is that you want to live life differently! That you want to give space to yourself! You want to keep your cup full to be able to lovingly give to the chaotic world! We need US to live life in a way our hearts know is possible. If you are looking for change a NEW BEGINNING may be for you. In peace and in love gorgeous visionaries!

In this episode of ATP, Saurabh Todi and Pranav Gupta talk about rise in women representation in bureaucracy, its reasons and implications. They also discuss why similar rise hasn't been seen in electoral representation. Do check out Takshashila's public policy courses: https://school.takshashila.org.in/courses We are @‌IVMPodcasts on Facebook, Twitter, & Instagram. https://twitter.com/IVMPodcasts https://www.instagram.com/ivmpodcasts/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/ivmpodcasts/ You can check out our website at https://shows.ivmpodcasts.com/featured Follow the show across platforms: Spotify, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, JioSaavn, Gaana, Amazon Music Do share the word with your folksSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're diving into 2024 with Rachel Locke, the Director of the Violence, Inequality, and Power Lab at the Kroc Institute for Peace and Justice at the University of San Diego. She's here to untangle the connections between societal violence and inequality. It's more important than ever, especially at the start of a wild election year.We tackle the challenges caused by the power plays that keep violence and unfairness going. We're not buying into simple stories – we know real solutions come from understanding the complicated mix of issues causing conflicts. Our talk reveals the tough reality of these problems and how the VIP Lab is committed to making real changes in a world that's loudly calling for reform.Finally, we shine a light on the difficulties women and women of color face in politics. The rise in harassment against public figures makes us wonder about where inclusive governance is headed. We discuss what recent studies say about how this kind of bullying challenges mental health and political involvement.(0:00:08) - Exploring Workplace Inclusion and Humanitarian WorkPersonal updates, Felicia's purple hair, and an interview with Rachel Locke on her career journey and creating a better world. (0:08:13) - Exploring Violence, Inequality, and PowerNature's violence and inequality are intertwined, highlighting the importance of addressing power dynamics in the VIP Lab's interdisciplinary approach to applied research. (0:20:39) - Recognizing Complexity in Power DynamicsPower dynamics, complex issues, and binary thinking hinder social justice efforts in addressing violence and promoting change. (0:32:04) - Threats and Harassment Against Public OfficialsNature's alarming increase in threats and harassment towards local officials, particularly women and women of color, may undermine gender balance in political representation. (0:36:21) - Harassment's Impact on Officials' Mental HealthPublic officials face gender-based harassment and threats, cope with limited support, and find therapeutic value in sharing their struggles. (0:55:51) - Amplifying Voices and Embracing PossibilityNature's joy, partnerships for change, personal growth, and the upcoming election year's potential for our future. Visit us at shegeeksout.com to stay up to date on all the ways you can make the workplace work for everyone!

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Lee Chambers is a British psychologist, entrepreneur, male ally and speaker. He is the founder of PhenomGames and Essentialise Workplace Wellbeing. Chambers was inducted as a Kavli Fellow of the National Academy of Sciences in 2023. He has been interviewed by Vogue, The Guardian and Newsweek, and is known for analyzing the psychological aspects of the workplaces, wellbeing and intersectionality. He is one of the UK's leading voices on male allyship and gender equity. He was named as a Marie Claire Future Shaper 2022, alongside Harry Styles and Tom Daley, and was inducted into the Black Cultural Archives in 2022 for services to Business and Health. He is trusted by publications such as Medical News Today, the BBC and Healthline, and recently featured as an expert in IKEA's docuseries, “It won't feel like home, ‘til it feels like you.” Lee won the Professional Service Startup of the Year at the National Startup Awards, and has also been awarded the Service Entrepreneur of the Year at the Great British Entrepreneur Awards. He was named as an Exceptional Entrepreneur by the Startups 100 Index and a Man for Gender Balance at the Rising Star Awards. Based in the North West, and working globally, he is passionate about conscious leadership, equality of health opportunity and menopause awareness.   In this episode Alicia and Lee discuss: How he founded, built and sold a business before 30  Life challenges and successes as a autistic adult  Understanding the strengths of autism The idea that everyone is on the spectrum  The reality of having an autistic black son Late Neurodiverse diagnosis - the importance of being diagnosed  What motivated him to be a wellbeing consultant  See more about Lee here - https://leechambers.org/

On Thursday's Rugby Daily, Cathal Mullaney brings you news of Andy Farrell's contract extension with the IRFU. The IRFU has also achieved its gender balance target on its Union Committee. Eddie Jones has been speaking about his return as Japan's head coach. Keith Wood has his say on Ulster's recent struggles. And a Welsh player has been forced to retire due to injury.

Are you a female founder with an amazing business, but struggling to raise capital? Or are you an investor who is serious about investing in female founders? For all the incredible female founders out there seeking to secure investment, elevate your networking skills, and make your business shine, this episode is a must-watch! Timestamps: 0:00 - Trailer and Introduction 01:13 - Why do Female Founders Receive Less in Venture Funding? 07:13 - How to Empower Yourself with Skills for Raising Investment 12:09 - Why There's a Low Success Rate for Funding 16:53 - How to Find the Right Investors 19:01 - How to Network 19:36 - Are Women Bad at Networking? 21:31 - How to Approach Conversations with Potential Investors 24:50 - What Should Investors be Thinking About When it Comes to Funding Female Founders? 25:19 - How Can We Speed up the Process of Achieving Diversity in Investment Firms? 29:07 - How Can Female Founders Assert their Power when Pitching to Investment Firms? 33:03 - The Importance of Gender Balance in Business 35:20 - Supporting the Underdog: Julia's Personal Experience as a Female Founder 37:26 - How Julia Started Upper Street 38:08 - Taking Inspiration from Bespoke Shoe-making in Hong Kong 42:28 - Funding Challenges in the Footwear Industry 45:36 - What Makes Founders Investable? 01:07:25 - Building a Sustainable Business and the Role of Co-founders ​​Introducing Julia Elliott Brown, a serial entrepreneur with a passion for empowering female founders. She's behind successful ventures like Upper Street, UpMyStreet.com, and is currently the CEO and Founder of Enter The Arena, which helps female founders fly through offering investment expertise and business coaching. Julia is not only a business expert but also a compelling keynote speaker and host of the "Fundraising Stories with Female Founders" podcast. Her book, "RAISE: The Female Founders Guide To Securing Investment," is making waves with a 2023 Business Book Awards nomination. Julia Elliott Brown: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/juliaelliottbrown X: https://twitter.com/juliaelliottb?lang=en Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0o2pNa2BqPaxowewAjSBOF Website: enterthearena.co.uk Books: Eldest Daughter Effect: How First Born Women like Oprah Winfrey, Sheryl Sandberg, JK Rowling and Beyoncé Harness their Strengths - Lisette Schuitemaker and Wies Enthoven https://amzn.to/3Qwr3lJ Maria Hvorostovsky: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariahvo/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mariahvo/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maria_hvo X: https://twitter.com/mhvorostovsky HVO Search: https://www.hvosearch.com/ Podcast filmed, edited and produced by: https://www.londonbeautyphotographer.com Need help HIRING – ⁠http://www.hirewithmaria.com⁠ LEAVE A REVIEW: If you're listening on Apple Podcasts make sure to Follow, Rate, and leave a REVIEW.

Ahead of International Men's Day on 19th November 2023, Sharon joins us to share her work in helping organisations build gender balance. Recognising the importance of gender equality for women, men and non-binary people, Sharon notes that on the current trajectory we're 140 years away from achieving gender balance at manager level.    Describing strategies that don't work as well as those that do, Sharon provides an overview of five foundations that enable sustained progress, three structural and two behavioural, and discusses the challenges with, yet importance of, data.   Sharon shares thoughts on the role of men at work, and the pressures they face, as well as practical steps we can take to include men in the work to build gender balance, including ideas you can implement ahead of this year's International Men's Day...    Topics this episode:   ·        What doesn't work in building gender balance ·        Five foundations for building gender balance ·        Delivering Gender Equality through ESG – APPG report ·        Challenges with and the importance of data ·        Gender Equality for everyone – the role of and impacts for men ·        Practical steps to include men in gender balance work ·        Dismantling stereotypes: tiny steps in your day-to-day life Referenced Resources ·        APPG on ESG: Delivering Gender Equality through ESG, October 2023   ·        Shape Talent   ·        Specialist in helping organisations support working men: Elliot Rae How HR Leaders Change the World - Live! 15 November 2023 Join us to learn and discuss: ·        How connecting your HR work to ESG helps you achieve your goals ·        Measuring your HR impact - what investors and CEOs are keen to hear from you on ·        Positioning your impact - how best to showcase your HR function's impact leadership, to all your stakeholders and in your EVP ·        Demystifying psychological safety - how to embed culture that drives innovation and change Learn from actionable examples shared by pioneering C-Suite HR Leaders, that you can implement at your company too. Alongside the CHRO speakers and the brilliant community of HR Changemakers you'll be part of, we're delighted to announce that Sir Lenny Henry CBE is this year's inspiring keynote. Find out more and don't miss your UN Global Goals Week special offer: (Offer ends 6pm BST 31Oct23) Join us In Person or via Live Stream; enter code: GlobalGoals to get 10% off your place Thank you to our event partner, Well by CircleIn Well knows that psychological safety is a key priority for companies, with 97% customers telling them that they plan to invest in it over the next 12 months. Enter Well – a practical and cost-effective solution that gives your entire workforce the skills they need to level up and lead with care. Well is a risk management tool, that tackles psychosocial hazards in the workplace. Importantly, they're reimagining learning to meet the needs of emerging leaders and how they learn. They've partnered with Microsoft to deliver this tool in the flow of work where employees are ‘doing the work'. It aligns to ISO guidelines, as Well's content is created by experts and backed by science so that organisations can easily align with new and incoming psychological safety standards. Their blissfully bite-sized video content is highly engaging, fits into busy schedules, and delivered with tangible takeaways to turn learning into action. Well keeps it real, promotes empathy, encourages self-improvement, and builds stronger teams. The result? Increased productivity, engagement, and happiness in your organisation. Find out more about Well here. Linkedin: @FromBabieswithLove Email: hrleaders@frombabieswithlove.org Website: https://frombabieswithlove.org How HR Leaders Change the World is brought to you by social enterprise, From Babies with Love. Across Moments that Matter, we provide employee engagement gift services to global HR functions and donate 100% of our profit to orphaned and abandoned children around the world. We transform commonly existing gift spend in to strategic, efficient and inclusive tools in your People Strategy, delivering Exceptional Employee Experience, and at the same time, ESG results.  

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Gender-balanced representation among the decision-makers of the European Union is an important step towards full realisation of the principle of equality between women and men enshrined in the EU Treaties. The Union has made steady and significant progress, starting from a very low presence of women among EU Commissioners and Members of the European Parliament at the time when those institutions were created. The European Parliament is today one of the world's most gender-balanced representative assemblies, but there are still significant divergences between EU countries. - Original publication on the EP Think Tank website - Subscription to our RSS feed in case your have your own RSS reader - Podcast available on Deezer, iTunes, TuneIn, Stitcher, YouTube Source: © European Union - EP

Businesses are increasingly implementing more gender diversity measures, yet still fail to generate the change they want. In this episode, we interviewed Cécile Kossoff and Marie-Christine Maheas, diversity and inclusion experts at Mazars, who reflect on ‘Myths and barriers preventing the progression of women', a study developed by Mazars in partnership with the Observatory for Gender Balance. In their reflection, they analyse the eight most common and persistent myths holding back women in their careers and offer solutions on how to overcome them.

Marcela Pumarino, people manager at Banco Central de Chile, joins Arunima Sharan, senior research analyst at OMFIF, to discuss the ways in which central banks can work improve gender balance in leadership positions within the financial sector. They delve into some of the specific policies that Banco Central de Chile has adopted to promote gender equality, and the importance of having diversity in leadership roles more broadly in the financial sector.

Female representation on the boards of ASX300 companies has reached a record high so Rhayna Bosch speaks with Dean Paatsch from Ownership Matters to find out why more work still needs to be done + SBS Finance Editor Ricardo Gonçalves speaks with David Scutt from City Index for a wrap of the markets.

Recruitment entrepreneurship can be immensely rewarding, but also brings the risk of burnout and overwhelm. New entrepreneurs can be vulnerable to workaholism, which can lead to negative consequences on physical and mental health, as well as personal relationships. We need to recognize the signs of workaholism and take steps to maintain a healthy work-life balance   My special guest, Tina Hazlett, founder of Spectrum Recruiting Solutions, shares her tips for success while maintaining a work-life balance. She gave at least four intentional steps that she took to overcome burnout, and I am sure you will find value in exploring the same steps.   Tina also shared the journey of how she transitioned from being a recruiter to a business owner, and how she navigated unpredictable market conditions. She also walked me through her advocacy of addressing the gender gap in her industry, and the steps they took to be successful in taking small steps forwards.   Tina has 22 years of experience in recruitment and started her own firm, Spectrum Recruiting Solutions, in 2018. They've since grown to a team of 14, based in the Salt Lake City area, Spectrum supports engineering and manufacturing companies in Utah through a combination of Direct-hire recruitment, RPO, and Consulting. Episode Outline and Highlights   [01:30] Tina Shares the Beginnings of Her Career in Recruitment. [03:57] Tina's One-Year Sabbatical Journey Before Launching Her Recruitment Firm. [10:33] Envisioning a Business Founded on Inclusivity and Remote Work Opportunities. [15:59] Addressing the Challenge of Hiring and Training Individuals Without Recruiting Experience [17:54] Tina's Four Steps to Overcoming Burnout as a New Entrepreneur. [24:34] The Evolution of Team Growth Throughout Tina's Entrepreneurial Journey. [28:30] Cultivating Camaraderie in a Remote Work Environment. [29:42] Discussing Gender Balance and Diversity in Utah's Engineering Industry. [37:00] Navigating Challenges in an Unconventional Market. [40:56] Insights into Tina's Business Development Strategies. [48:20] Establishing Career Paths and Succession Plans for the Team. [49:20] Tina's Approach to Transforming Solid Planning into Effective Execution. [51:48] Recognizing the Right Time to Expand and Grow Your Team.   Overcoming Burnout as a New Entrepreneur   New entrepreneurs can be vulnerable to workaholism for various reasons: passion and drive, new responsibilities, and adjusting to the learning curve of managing a new business. This was exactly how Tina felt when she founded Spectrum.    “If I'm being very honest about a couple years into starting spectrum, I hit a wall and I hit it hard and was so super burned out. And there was about at least a three-week period that I struggled to get out of bed. I was so tired.”   If you are feeling the same way, do not just ignore it. Workaholism leading to burnout can have many negative consequences. Tina was well aware of this fact, so she took action in order to build herself back up. We discussed the four steps she took to overcome overwhelm:   Realigning her priorities and making the most of her support system. She took concrete steps like scheduling dedicated family time on her calendar Creating a space for herself to take care of her mental health by doing yoga. Walking away from adversarial clients.   Gender Balance and Diversity Within the Engineering & Manufacturing Field in Utah   Tina talked me through her advocacy when she was planning to launch her recruitment firm. She said, “We really struggle in terms of our reputation and women's rights. That's one thing that I really wanted to promote. Where we focus on engineering and manufacturing in Utah, there's not a ton of representation for females out here, especially when it comes to equality, politically and professionally. Our goal was to really make sure women have a seat at the table.”   Her team took intentional steps to reach their objectives. They created channel partnerships and pipelines of candidates. They go beyond social media platforms through face-to-face networking.  She elaborated on how they would align with a group with similar mission and values for mutual support. This resulted in having females in 41% of their placement, which is an astonishing feat in their industry.   Business Development Strategies   We also discussed Tina's most influential business development strategy. How are they able to develop their client base? She explains, “Through a lot of our networking events is our number one way to do it where we can get in front of people. For example, we just did a hosted roundtable with the Utah Outdoor Association which does a lot of product development for outdoors like kayaks, canoes, tables, and that type of thing. So if we can get in and present, be the experts, be that resource, then we have people coming to us with questions that evolve into those strategic conversations. And what's been the most successful for us is getting that FaceTime. We're not cold callers.”   This strategy of hosting and speaking at events builds the credibility of Tina and her team. This gives them the opportunity to have a consultative approach instead of just selling.    Our Sponsors   This podcast is proudly sponsored by i-intro    i-intro® is an end-to-end retained recruitment platform. Their technology and methodology allow recruiters to differentiate themselves from the competition, win more retained business, bigger fees, and increase their billings. Their software combined with world-class training enables you to transition from transactional, contingency recruiter to consultative, retained recruiter. Instead of being perceived as a “me too” vendor, you'll be positioned as a “me only” solutions provider. Be sure to mention Mark Whitby or The Resilient Recruiter. Book your free, no-obligation consultation here: https://recruitmentcoach.com/retained   Tina Hazlett Bio and Contact Info   Tina started Spectrum Recruiting Solutions in 2018 after serving 17 years in the Talent Acquisition industry.  A professional sabbatical and personal desire to travel helped to provide the mental space she needed to create her vision of the ideal Talent Acquisition Firm. She and her entire family spent a full year traveling across the United States in a Winnebago, on purpose.  She fulfilled her soul as well as her contractual non-compete agreement.    With sheer determination and a dream, she built a successful recruiting, consulting & outplacement company that is thriving today. Amongst historic levels of economic uncertainty and geopolitical turmoil, she began a recruiting revolution!     When she's not putting her blood, sweat, and tears into Spectrum, she is active in the community fighting for gender pay equality and managing her family's annual "Backpack Project" which provides basic necessities to underprivileged kids within our community. Somehow Tina still finds time to continue exploring her soul and her world, traveling, hiking, biking, teaching yoga, and living life to the absolute fullest with her AMAZING family.   Tina on LinkedIn Spectrum Recruiting Solutions website link Spectrum on Facebook Spectrum on Instagram Spectrum on YouTube Spectrum on Twitter   People and Resources Mentioned   Foram Brown on LinkedIn Emily Rushton on LinkedIn   Connect with Mark Whitby Get your FREE 30-minute strategy call Mark on LinkedIn Mark on Twitter: @MarkWhitby Mark on Facebook Mark on Instagram: @RecruitmentCoach   Related Podcast You Might Enjoy   TRR#155 How to Grow a Recruitment Agency from Start-Up to $3M Profit in Two Years, with Emily Rushton Subscribe to The Resilient Recruiter   If you've been enjoying the podcast, please take two minutes to leave a review. Your review is greatly appreciated because it helps us attract a bigger audience and help more recruiters.  “Support the podcast and leave a review here”.  

Diversity and gender balance is an important part of the bigger picture in medicine. This piece looks at the facts. Monty Mythen and Desiree Chappell have an important conversation with Kate Leslie, Honorary Professor, Monash University, Melbourne, Australia, Specialist Anaesthetist, The Royal Melbourne Hospital & North Western Mental Health and Non-Executive Director, Australian Medical Council and Claire Stewart, Anaesthetist, Westmead Hospital. This year TopMedTalk is proud to be providing exclusive coverage of the annual Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists (ANZCA) conference, the professional body responsible for the specialties of anaesthesia and pain medicine in Australia and New Zealand. For more on ANZCA go here: https://www.anzca.edu.au/ And join in the conversation by checking out their socials here: instagram.com/the_anzca/ https://facebook.com/ANZCA1992 https://youtube.com/AnzcaEduAu

In this episode you will hear:   (22:50) Susan and Mark discuss an article written by Charlotte West of the Hechinger Report: An unnoticed result of the decline of men in college: It's harder for women to get in  (01:01:10) Lisa and Mark discuss a Speakpipe question from Esther from Tennessee about how and when your student should let a college know that they are not accepting their admission offer   (01:16:38) We continue with our interview with Ronne Turner, the Vice Provost of Enrollment at Washington University in St. Louis. Topic: Understanding Wash U, 3 of 3       Preview of Part 3 o   Ronne discusses how the school the student is coming from is evaluated. o   Ronne explains what they look for in student when they read a file. o   Ronne talks about how they were using Demonstrated Interest in their application evaluation and why they made the decision no longer use demonstrated interest the way they were before. Ronne is transparent s she shares  o   Ronne discusses some institutional priorities wash U has when she discusses the “Here and Next” campaign o   Ronne discusses What Wash U can do better?     (01:25:50) Mark shares our recommended resource, which is mefa.org's cost calculator:   (01:40:30) Mark shares his enthusiasm for the University of Redlands for the College Spotlight. This in-depth Spotlight will air over two episodes, Part 2 of 2     We now have set up audio recordings in your own voice for any question you send in for our “question from a listener” segment. In order to send us an audio message, just go to speakpipe.com/YCBK. 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What role should men play in the quest for gender equality at work? In today's episode, Emilie speaks with David Smith, an associate professor at the Johns Hopkins Carey Business School and co-author of Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace, all about the impact true allyship has on achieving gender equity at work.Related Links:Learn more about David's work here Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the  Workplace Enroll in Level Up, our leadership accelerator Iris Bonet: What Works: Gender Equality by Design Ep 03: How to Get a Male MentorEp 263: How to Command your Story in an InterviewEp 249: How to be a Concise, Compelling, and Cogent CommunicatorEp 347: How to Reset Your Inner Narrative and Reclaim Your ConfidenceEmilie's LinkedIn Learning Course: Becoming a Male Ally at WorkJoin us in the Bossed Up Courage Community on FacebookGot a boss move to share? Schedule a call to chat with EmilieGot a career conundrum you want us to cover on the podcast? Leave a voicemail at 910-668-BOSS(2677) or shoot us an email at info@bossedup.org.