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Welcome to Trail TMZ, the spicy trail running news breakdown you didn't know you needed. I'm Jeff Garmire, and this week I dive into the carnage at Western States—Jim Walmsley and Hayden Hawks are out, and so is the “Unbreakable 2” film project (yes, really). I give my unfiltered take on why that matters, how storytelling in our sport is being fumbled, and why it's time for trail films to embrace the chaos instead of bailing when stars drop.Then, things heat up with Camille Herron's cryptic Instagram post—where she dubs herself a sports whistleblower. What's the truth? What's hearsay? I break it down and talk about the real harm of social media call-outs in a sport that needs clarity more than confusion.Next up, we've got controversy at Black Canyon 100K involving Aravaipa Running, unauthorized aid, course-cutting, and a 20-minute penalty that turned into a full DQ. Is it a conflict of interest if a team athlete breaks the rules? I was there filming and have thoughts.And finally, we talk about how college athletics might implode thanks to SEC Football drama—and what that means for the future of running programs and the next generation of trail and ultra athletes.This episode has drama, nuance, hot takes, and just enough sarcasm to get me in trouble again.Chapters00:00 Western States Controversies and Unbreakable 204:16 Camille Herron: The Sports Whistleblower10:01 Aravaipa Running: Cheating Allegations and Controversy15:24 The Future of College Sports and Its Impact on RunningSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

I sit down with Coree Woltering—pro athlete for Merrell, Janji, and Smartwool—for a raw and hilarious conversation about his redemption at the Cocodona 250. From being the very first person to drop out of the inaugural race to finishing it five years later, Coree shares the highs, lows, and muddy middle miles of his journey.We talk about impromptu race entries (Venmoed Southern States 200), wild hallucinations, ankle weirdness, and what happens when your crew gets stranded with a flat tire halfway through a 250-mile race. Coree also opens up about finding joy in ultra-distance running, managing a team for Merrell, and his ambitious upcoming plans—including an Appalachian Trail FKT attempt and maybe even Moab 240.Follow Coree online: https://www.instagram.com/coreewolteringChapters00:00 Corey Woltering's Journey Begins02:45 Redemption at Cocodona06:01 Lessons from Southern States08:52 The Start of Cocodona 202312:07 Navigating Challenges and Embracing Adventure15:05 The Pacer Experience18:01 Unexpected Setbacks21:08 The Descent into Jerome24:09 The Hangover Trail Experience34:40 The Journey of Social Media in Ultra Running37:37 Experiencing the Highs and Lows of Endurance Racing39:29 The Breakdown: Mental and Physical Challenges42:44 Crew Dynamics and Support in Ultra Events45:37 Navigating the Final Stretch: The Last Marathon49:41 The Finish Line Experience: Quiet Triumphs53:47 Reflections on Future Races and Goals56:38 The Evolution of an Ultra Runner: From Triathlons to Ultra Events01:00:36 Athlete Management: Bridging Experience and Brand NeedsShop at our sponsors: Janji.com, garagegrowngear.com, and csinstant.coffeeSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Today's episode starts off with something I might just turn into a regular segment: Trail TMZ. We dig into the controversy surrounding William Goodge's run across Australia and the data that has people wondering—from heart rate anomalies to 55 mph GPS spikes. Then we take a brief detour into the Camille Herron Wikipedia saga and my lingering sadness that she never came on the show.But the real highlight is a deep conversation with Aaron Fleisher, a fellow five-time Cocodona 250 finisher. We talk about his journey from stage racing and thru-hiking into the world of 200s, and how he found success (and beer) on trail. We get into hallucination stories, racing strategies, sleep theories, and the evolution of Cocodona over the past five years. Plus, Aaron breaks down his experience at Tour de Géants and what it's like to compete in a race that makes U.S. ultras look like casual jogs.We wrap up with some trail name lore (“Food Boobs,” and "Loophole") and ponder how Cocodona became the most community-embraced ultra in the U.S. Oh, and yes—there might be a bumper sticker involved that says "Cocodona sucks, tell your friends."Follow Aaron online: https://www.instagram.com/mittenmadness/Follow and shop at out sponsors: Janji.com, Garagegrowngear.com, and Csinstant.coffeeChapters00:00 – Trail TMZ: Goodge, Cockrell & the Controversy03:30 – Camille Herron, Wikipedia & Podcast Rejections06:00 – Introducing Aaron Fleisher & Cocodona Beginnings10:00 – Beer, Sandals & Surviving the Inaugural Year14:00 – Sleep, Strategy & Hallucinations at 200 Milers19:00 – Through-Hiking Mentality in Ultras23:00 – Tour des Géants: Europe's Wildest Ultra28:00 – Cultural Clash & Why Tour Felt Life-Changing32:00 – Cocodona's Future & Becoming a Community Race36:00 – Trail Names, Reflections & Last Person StandingSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutsideKeywordsCocodona 250, ultrarunning, trail running, 200 mile race, Jeff Garmire, Aaron Fleisher, Free Outside Podcast, thru hiking, Tour des Geants, Tour de Glaciers, ultramarathon, trail TMZ, William Gooch, running across Australia, watchmuling, heart rate zone, hallucinations ultrarunning, beer mile, food boobs, trail names, Aravaipa Running, Cocodona recap, trail race strategy, sleep in ultras, ultra running controversy, elite trail running, long distance running, through hiker mindset, adventure racing, Grand to Grand, 200 milers, ultra endurance, running gossip

I sit down with Kevin Russ—board game designer, iPhone photography legend, thru hiker, and freshly minted Cocodona 250 finisher. We dive into Kevin's wild journey from shooting landscapes with just his phone to creating successful board games, and now, tackling 200+ mile races. He opens up about the physical and mental toll of Cocodona, the moments that tested him most, and the role his crew played in getting him to the finish. We also explore how creativity overlaps with endurance and what's next for Kevin in both ultra running and game design.Check out Kevin on the internet: Website: https://www.kevinruss.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinruss/Check out his board Game: https://amzn.to/3ZpJ0HTSupport our sponsors:Janji.comGaragegrowngear.comCsinstant.coffee00:00 The Rise of an iPhone Photographer04:03 From Photography to Through Hiking06:26 Transitioning to Ultra Running09:19 Preparing for Cocodona 25012:05 Training Challenges and the Chipotle Challenge14:45 Cocodona 250: The Race Begins17:26 Weather Challenges and Mindset Shifts20:23 The Role of Crew and Support22:53 Capturing the Journey on Camera24:14 Navigating Sleep Deprivation26:57 Injuries and Mental Resilience29:18 The Role of Pacers and Crew Support30:27 Facing Challenges in the Final Stretch35:18 Reflections on the Race Experience37:14 Future Plans and Training Insights39:46 Hallucinations and the Nature of Endurance41:09 Underrated Natural Beauty in the U.S.43:04 The Journey into Board Game Design45:48 Launching a Board Game48:28 The Board Game Convention ExperienceSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Today we have one of the most inspiring runners I know—Jennie Chisholm. She's a mom of four boys, a Triple Crowner, and a two-time Cocodona 250 finisher. But she didn't find ultrarunning the usual way. She stumbled into it—literally—on a whim while thru-hiking the Arizona Trail.She tells the incredible story of how her family went from watching Cocodona as curious hikers to toeing the start line with hand-me-down running vests and brand-new shoes. We talk about how her sons became ultrarunners, what it's like racing 250 miles while constantly worrying about your kids (who are also racing), and the chaos of coordinating multiple crews and pacers as a full-on family affair.She shares the highs and heartbreaking lows from this year's Cocodona—dealing with sickness, hypothermia, and emotional breakdowns on the trail, all while pushing through to the finish herself. We also dive into training, nutrition (or the lack thereof), trail names, and how thru-hiking helped shape her kids into some of the toughest young runners in the sport.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Jenny Chisholm's Journey03:10 The Accidental Entry into Cocodona05:59 Family Dynamics in Ultra Running09:06 Logistics of Racing as a Family11:52 Challenges Faced During the Race15:05 The Emotional Toll of DNFing17:56 Finding Focus Amidst Chaos21:00 The Role of Family Support23:52 Reflections on the Race Experience39:33 The Emotional Roller Coaster of Racing48:12 Navigating Nutrition and Training Challenges55:02 Building Confidence Through Thru-Hiking01:01:08 The Future of Family Adventures01:09:31 Embracing the Journey and Lessons LearnedSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

This week, I scrapped the pre-recorded episode I had ready to go and decided to hit record and talk live—from the post-Cocodona haze. After five finishes at Cocodona 250, I figured it was time to finally answer the question: Should you sign up for Cocodona? I break down what it really takes to toe that start line, what happens in the mid-pack where most of us live for days on end, and why finishing should always mean more than your pace chart or Instagram recap.This year, things went sideways. COVID showed up early (for me and, unfortunately, my whole crew), and I had to go deep into my why just to keep moving. I talk about that, how my mindset has shifted, the myth of “self-supported” Cocodona, and how this race is more about soul-searching than splits.There's also some advice on how to register, a behind-the-scenes look at Golden Hour, a possibly meth-themed aid station (yep), and what keeps me coming back year after year. I also rant (gently) about influencer culture, read some of your reviews, and shout out my amazing crew, my favorite Janji gear, and the community that makes this wild desert dream possible.If you're on the fence about Cocodona, this is the episode for you. It's raw, it's real, and it's my fifth year of running straight into the unknown.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Cocodona 25002:53 The Mindset Behind Endurance Racing06:11 Strategies for Signing Up and Preparing08:52 The Reality of Support in Ultra Running12:09 The Adventure of Cocodona 25014:57 Golden Hour and the Emotional Finish17:47 Reflections on the Experience21:02 Closing Thoughts and EncouragementSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

The crazy story of my fifth finish at Cocodona 250. This year was full of surprises — I ran with a sickness, hallucinated witches and aliens, battled rain, hail, and mud, and somehow kept going with the help of an incredible crew.I break down the highs and lows, from brain fog and rolled ankles to a bobcat sighting, and even the odd gear fix that saved the day (hint: Vagisil).If you're into ultrarunning, trail running, or just want to hear about pushing through 250 miles of chaos, this episode is full of stories, lessons, and plenty of humor.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Cocodona 250 Experience03:00 Race Day Preparations and Crew Dynamics05:51 The Struggles Begin: Weather and Physical Challenges09:10 Hallucinations and Mental Battles12:10 Navigating Through Adversity: The Role of Crew14:52 The Mid-Race Shift: Coping with Illness17:49 Finding Momentum: The Power of Music21:02 Celebrating Small Victories24:03 The Final Push: Overcoming the Last Hurdles26:56 The Finish Line: Reflections and RevelationsSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I break down my full race plan for the 2025 Cocodona 250, the massive 250-mile ultra across Arizona. I walk you through how I'm approaching the unusually cold weather, the new technical course changes, and the long stretches without pacers. I explain why I'm planning to go out more aggressively this year, how I'm dialing in my carbs, salt, and hydration, and where I'll rely on my crew and pacers the most. I share my split predictions, the key sections I'm watching for, and some honest reflections on how far I've come as a runner and a podcaster. Whether you're following Cocodona or just curious about what it takes to line up for something this big, this episode gives you an inside look at my mindset and strategy heading into race week.Chapters00:00 Cocadona 250 Race Strategy03:09 Course Navigation and Aid Stations05:55 Pacing and Nutrition Strategy09:07 Self-Sufficiency and Crew Dynamics11:57 Reflections on Podcasting and GrowthSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

On today's episode of the Free Outside Show, I'm joined by runner, ultimate frisbee enthusiast, and Cocodona crewing expert Allison Mercer. We relive wild stories from the inaugural Cocodona 250 — from cactus naps and glass-covered descents to heckling runners mid-race. We talk predictions for this year's showdown, the “Courtney effect,” and whether European pros will shift the ultra scene. We debate mind games, pacing strategies, why volunteering matters, and why Cocodona is basically ultrarunning's March Madness. Follow Allison online: https://www.instagram.com/onewomandancepartyFollow our sponsors: Janji, Garage Grown Gear Chapters00:00 Introduction to Allison Mercer and Cocodona02:50 The Inaugural Cocodona Experience06:08 Crew Dynamics and Race Strategy08:46 The Evolution of Cocodona and Its Popularity11:59 The Role of Volunteers in Ultra Running14:58 Pacing and the Emotional Journey17:58 The Impact of Weather on Race Performance20:56 The Influence of Social Media and Celebrity Runners23:50 The Future of Cocodona and Its Competitors27:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts46:08 The Evolving Landscape of Ultra Running52:39 Courtney's Dominance and the Competitive Field56:58 Mindset and Strategy in Ultra Racing01:01:55 The Future of Cocodona and Race DynamicsSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

On this wild episode of the Free Outside Podcast, we talk with filmmaker Derrick Lytle and into everything Cocodona 250 — from race predictions and course changes to the strength-versus-speed debate heating up in the ultra scene. But first? We take on the internet's most absurd hypothetical: could 100 men beat a silverback gorilla? (Spoiler: probably not.) We trade predictions on Courtney Dauwalter, Ryan Sandes, Mike McKnight, and more while roasting obstacle racers, dissecting mud strategies, and dreaming up the ultimate post-race media blitz. Expect hot takes, cold-weather prep, and plenty of laughs in this pre-race breakdown of one of the most exciting 200-milers of the year.Check out Derrick's Youtube Channel: @TheJuniperLab Chapters00:00 Introduction and Light Banter03:00 The Gorilla Debate: Humans vs. Nature06:01 Cocodona 250: Anticipation and Excitement08:53 The Impact of the Courtney Effect12:03 Women in Ultra Running: Breaking Barriers15:07 Course Changes and Challenges in Cocodona18:01 Weather and Its Influence on Performance21:01 The Evolution of Ultra Running Competitors23:57 CrossFit vs. High Rocks: A Lighthearted Comparison25:25 Transitioning from CrossFit to Endurance Sports26:26 Mike McKnight's Preparation for Cocodona29:11 The Debate on Strength Training for Runners30:25 DJ Fox: The Obstacle Course Racer's Edge31:47 Predictions for Cocodona 25033:27 Weather and Logistics Impacting Race Performance35:51 The Competitive Landscape of Cocodona 25038:10 Emerging Athletes and Dark Horses40:06 Nutrition Strategies for Ultra Runners42:23 Broadcasting Challenges at Cocodona 250Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

On today's episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by outdoor filmmaker Drew Darby, and we cover everything from his unexpected start filming inside prisons to becoming one of the most exciting filmmakers in ultrarunning. We dive into how working in sensitive environments shaped his storytelling, the chaos (and comedy) of filming 100-mile races, and why long-form content is making a comeback. Drew shares his thoughts on building a career in the outdoor film industry, what it's like to turn passion into a full-time job, and the importance of telling deeper stories beyond the race results. Plus, we brainstorm a "Media Mile" race, swapping cameras instead of trophies. It's an episode packed with filmmaking mishaps, creative advice, and a whole lot of laughs.Follow Drew Darby online: https://www.instagram.com/drewbdarbyChapters00:00 From Prisons to Filmmaking: Drew's Unique Journey04:35 The Intersection of Politics and Filmmaking09:06 Short Form vs Long Form: The Filmmaker's Dilemma17:27 The Pressure of Timely Storytelling21:53 Navigating Brand Relationships in Filmmaking28:58 Transitioning to Ultra Sports Filmmaking38:35 Overcoming Physical Limitations39:30 Transitioning to Freelance Filmmaking42:12 Navigating Brand Collaborations44:09 Life Beyond Filmmaking47:18 The Challenges of Travel49:26 Filmmaker Nightmare Stories53:39 Advice for Aspiring Filmmakers01:01:25 The Importance of Storytelling in FilmmakingSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

I sit down with Doc, the voice behind Hiker Trash Radio—a podcast that's interviewed over 450 adventurers from thru-hikers to Barkley Marathons legends. We dive deep into Doc's wild behind-the-scenes experience covering the 2024 Barkley Marathons as a first-time invited media member. From nearly camping in the wrong forest to building trust at the Yellow Gate, he shares how he captured the stories of runners, crews, and chaos at one of the world's most mysterious races.Check out the Barkley Marathons Bonus Episodes: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5KrLfLJn9Joy6PwwX3uEFR?si=88778974ca8d44f4We talk about John Kelly's fun run finish, the brutal new Ball Bearing Hill, and the unglamorous truth about nap-induced DNFs. Plus, we explore the evolution of Hiker Trash Radio, the art of giving trail names, and why Doc's doctorate turned into a trail moniker.Check out Hiker Trash Radio YouTube: ⁨@hikertrashradio⁩ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gvi6HyY4wdQ7u8wWdSnkx?si=db514a5572e34e34Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hikertrashradioWhether you love the Appalachian Trail, John Muir Trail, Continental Divide Trail, or just thrive on tales of ultrarunning pain and perseverance, this one's got something for every dirtbag dreamer.support our sponsors:Janji.comGarageGrownGear.comCsinstant.coffeeChapters00:00 Introduction to the Barkley Marathons02:48 Doc's Journey to Cover the Barkley06:07 The Anticipation of Race Day08:49 Interviews and Insights from Runners11:53 The Race Begins: Expectations vs. Reality15:01 The Challenges of the Barkley Course17:58 The Atmosphere During the Race20:57 Reflections on the Race Experience24:04 The Aftermath: No Finishers This Year30:57 The Final Moments of the Race32:01 Reflections on Race Difficulty33:30 Media Coverage and Content Creation36:01 The Evolution of the Podcast37:48 The Journey into Backpacking46:00 Trail Names and Their Stories51:01 The Magic of Thru-Hiking55:16 Exploring Adventure StoriesSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF

I sit down with Tim and Renee—better known as Simply the ⁨@reneeandtim⁩ . These two have thru-hiked the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) and Continental Divide Trail (CDT), set a Fastest Known Time (FKT), and built a massive online audience with their content on backpacking, ultrarunning, and dehydrated trail meals.Follow the Thru Hikers on the internetInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thruhikers/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thruhikers?Website: https://thruhikers.co/We talk about their full-time careers in plant genetics and engineering to outdoor influencers, the pressure of going viral on TikTok, and what it's like filming content while hiking thousands of miles. Renee shares the story behind her self-supported Oregon FKT and how spreadsheets, heatwaves, and stubborn fire seasons played a role.Check out The Barkley Bonus Episodes: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5KrLfLJn9Joy6PwwX3uEFR?si=cb96d5bf10ca48f3Support our sponsors Janji.com, Garagegrowngear.com and Csinstant.coffeePlus, we dive into:-The realities of turning hiking into a career-Dehydrated food experiments gone wrong (bibimbap, we're looking at you)Trail name origins ("Blue Man" and "Sausage")-How to prep for your first long-distance hike (spoiler: you don't need to be an expert)-Their book combining backpacking recipes and advice-And why trail running has become their go-to between big hikesThis episode is perfect for aspiring thru-hikers, FKT nerds, trail chefs, and anyone wondering how to turn a love of the outdoors into a lifestyle.Chapters00:00 Adventuring with an Audience03:06 Balancing Careers and Adventures05:59 The Journey to FKTs09:00 The Transition to Ultra Running11:56 Navigating Social Media Growth15:04 The Process of Writing a Book34:51 The Journey of Publishing a Book36:44 Wildlife Encounters and Adventure Stories41:05 The Art of Dehydrating Food for Hiking50:29 Preparing for a Thru-Hike Adventure55:40 Trail Names and Their StoriesSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comKeywordsThruhiking, Ultra Running, FKT, Adventure, Social Media, Content Creation, Hiking, Outdoor Activities, Balancing Work and Adventure, Recipe Book, hiking, adventure, wildlife encounters, thru-hiking, book publishing, dehydrating food, trail names, outdoor stories, FKT, hiking tips

I sit down with Peter Mortimer, the champion of the inaugural Arizona Monster 300-miler. Just hours after finishing, Pete was back at work—because ultrarunning is expensive and PTO is a myth. We talk about his strategy for managing sleep, how he trains for 200+ mile races, and what it's like to hallucinate a jaguar that turns out to be an actual cow.Follow Pete Mortimer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pjmortimer/We also dive into Pete's “finish it once” race mentality, his plans to take on the Triple Crown of 200s, and his alter ego as a culinary legend known as Pete's Meats, feeding hallucinating runners brisket on mountain summits. Plus, the ridiculous story of how we first met—at the Barkley Marathons, where Pete forgot his bib number and everything went sideways from there.Support us by supporting our sponsors: Janji: Janji.comGarage Grown Gear: GarageGrownGear.comCS Coffee: Csinstant.coffeeIf you like stories of long-distance suffering, sleep deprivation, racing horses at Man Against Horse, and the sheer absurdity of ultra culture, this episode is for you.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Arizona Monster03:06 Experiencing the Arizona Trail06:01 Race Strategy and Pacing08:51 Training for the 300-Mile Challenge12:03 Mental Challenges During the Race15:02 Post-Race Reflections and Future Plans24:41 The Barkley Marathons Experience29:04 Cocadona Training and Connections31:30 Pete's Meats and Community Engagement36:11 Philosophy of Racing and Travel38:57 Unique Racing Experiences: Man Against Horse42:54 Eight More Miles Coaching PhilosophyKeywordsArizona Monster, ultra running, endurance races, race strategy, training, mental challenges, Peter Mortimer, Jeff Garmire, 300-mile race, pacing, Barkley Marathons, Cocadona, ultra running, Pete's Meats, community, racing philosophy, Man Against Horse, coaching, endurance sports, running experiences

I'm recording live (well, semi-live) while running through mossy, Jurassic Park-like trails outside Portland. Just minutes in, I round a corner and meet a man with a blood-covered hand telling me someone stabbed his dog with a switchblade. So naturally... I kept running.Support our sponsors, janji.com, garagegrowngear.com, and Csinstant.coffeeIn this chaotic on-foot monologue, I dive into the Gorge Waterfalls 100K, which just happened to be the USA Trail Team selection race for the Mountain Ultra Trail World Championships. I talk through the carnage (the race kind), recap the course records smashed by Adam Peterman, Shea Aquilano, and others, and reflect on how trail running might be entering a new competitive era.Then, I join up with Derek Lytle post-race to break it all down: the athletes, the coverage, the waterfalls, and the fact that every race we've filmed has somehow produced course records. Coincidence? Probably. But we're claiming it anyway.Also... there's a very old cat named Blackberry.Chapters00:00 A Run Through the Unexpected03:03 Trail Running Championships and Team USA05:50 Gorge Waterfalls Race Recap09:01 Record-Breaking Performances11:56 Looking Ahead: Future Races and CompetitionsSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comKeywordstrail running, Gorge Waterfalls, USA Trail Team, championships, record-breaking, running safety, outdoor adventures, race recap, competitive running, athlete insights

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I talk with Connor “Jackrabbit” Chapdelaine, who's attempting the Calendar Year Triple Crown—thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Continental Divide Trail all in a single year. We break down how the idea got planted during a hike on the AT, what it takes to train for 8,000 miles, and why he's bringing a pillow, a stove, and maybe even a thermos.Follow Connor/Jackrabbit online: https://www.instagram.com/JackrabbitHikes/Connor shares his strategy for navigating snow in the Sierra, reroutes on the PCT, and fires on the CDT—plus his plan to survive town stops without spending his entire budget. We also get into ultralight gear hacks, and his favorite trail meals. Connor breaks down his food tier list (spoiler: mushroom Knorr = trail exile) and how his dad is helping run the back-end logistics with a label maker and full “dad command center.”Support us by supporting our sponsors: CS Coffee: https://www.csinstant.coffee/Janji: https://janji.com/Garage Grown Gear: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/If you've ever been curious about the logistics, gear, food, and mindset needed to thru-hike the PCT, CDT, and AT in one year, this episode is packed with real insight and ridiculous stories—including tuna and peanut butter wraps, dry-scooped coffee, and a thru-hiker potluck that no one asked for.Chapters04:00 The Aspiration of the Calendar Year Triple Crown10:30 Overcoming Obstacles in the Journey13:51 Planning and Timing for Success19:25 Budgeting for the Adventure24:20 Family Support and Logistics25:12 Training for High Mileage31:29 Food Choices on the Trail37:58 The Quirks of Trail Humor38:51 Trail Food Favorites and Disasters40:56 Resupply Strategies and Bargain Finds41:59 The Art of Coffee on the Trail43:46 The Triple Crown Experience45:38 Friendships Formed on the Trail47:59 The Emotional Connection to Hiking50:04 Gear Essentials for Long Trails56:14 The Importance of Comfort Items59:34 Post-Hike Plans and Future Goals01:05:15 Memorable Trail Names and Their StoriesSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

I sit down with pro ultrarunner Alyssa Clark to talk about racing at the highest level, dealing with self-worth and performance, and why hallucinating pandas might be a sign you're doing something right.Follow Alyssa online:Substack: https://substack.com/@alyssaclark3Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theory_in_motion/Alyssa just won the legendary Hurt 100 and holds the Supported FKT on the Pinhoti Trail, but her journey to the top has been anything but easy. We dive into her start in ultras (skipping the marathon entirely), the challenges of racing in Europe, the reality of going pro, and the game-changing impact of working with a mental coach.We also get into the weeds on topics like hydration strategy, sleep deprivation, why pacers and crew can be tricky, and how Strava sometimes kills the vibe. Alyssa opens up about running 95 marathons in 95 days, starting her Substack "Theorizing in Motion," and building a life around motion—both literally and creatively.Support our Sponsors: CS Coffee: https://www.csinstant.coffee/Garage Grown Gear: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/Janji: https://janji.com/Whether you're into 200 milers, mental performance, or just love hearing real talk from someone who's been through the highs and lows of this sport, this one's packed with insight, humor, and straight-up honesty.

In this episode, I dive into the recent controversy surrounding the Arizona Monster trail race, where a failed live stream led to a very public clash between the race director and the live stream operator. I break down what happened, explore how social media amplified the drama, and share some thoughts on how these kinds of disputes can be handled more constructively. Along the way, I also talk about what I've been learning in my recent training camp and reflect on the importance of keeping conflict resolution behind the scenes whenever possible—for the good of the sport and the people involved.Support our sponsors:-www.janji.com-www.garagegrowngear.com-https://www.csinstant.coffee/Sound Bites"We sprain news, we don't break it.""This is going to be a tricky subject.""Stay elite, my friends."Chapters00:00 The Arizona Monster Controversy04:37 Social Media Warfare in Trail Running09:22 Escalation of the Dispute11:43 Lessons Learned from the Drama12:32 Upcoming Events and Personal UpdatesKeywordsArizona Monster, trail running, social media, live stream, controversy, public disputes, race director, live streaming, community, drama

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with the voice of Cocodona and one of the most passionate people in trail running media—Chris Worden. With over 150 races on UltraSignup and years of experience in both radio and accounting, Chris shares the wild journey from small-town sports broadcasting to being the emotional anchor of ultrarunning's most epic live streams.Follow Chris on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/clword77/We talk about what goes into calling a multi-day race like Cocodona, the behind-the-scenes chaos (including some live broadcast bloopers), how Aravaipa has become the gold standard in race coverage, and why accessibility and storytelling are fueling the sport's explosion. Plus, Chris opens up about getting into Western States this year after six years of lottery heartbreak—and what it means.If you've ever gotten sucked into the Cocodona livestream chat, dreamed of finishing your first ultra, or wondered how the heck someone commentates for 100 hours straight, this episode is for you.And yes... I made Chris call my 2025 Cocodona finish before I've even toed the line. So, technically I've already won.Support our sponsors Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.comChapters00:00 Introduction to Trail Running and Commentary03:00 The Journey into Live Streaming and Broadcasting06:07 Memorable Events and Personal Experiences in Commentary08:50 The Evolution of Ultra Running and Accessibility11:59 The Future of Ultra Running Events14:52 Pre-Production and Storytelling in Broadcasting21:03 The Impact of Broadcasting on the Community24:14 Challenges and Learning Experiences in Commentary27:54 Navigating Live Broadcasts and Viewer Engagement30:14 The Evolution of Live Streaming in Ultra Running33:10 Engagement Through Chat: The Double-Edged Sword36:45 The Importance of Experience and Dedication39:50 The Future of Ultra Running Coverage47:38 Chris's Journey to Western States56:14 The Emotional Connection of Trail RunningSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com

This one's a little different—no guests, no live race calls—just me sharing the full story of how I went from a bullied high school runner to a thru-hiker to an ultra runner trying to get comfortable being uncomfortable.I talk about quitting school to hike the Pacific Crest Trail, building a monster endurance base through FKTs and 8,000-mile slogs, and how I've had to completely rewire my brain and body to embrace faster, higher-effort racing. We hit on pacing, fueling, treadmill hiking, crew control issues (yes, I admit it), and why I “Jeff” everything in life.Plus, I talk about my weird obsession with making my own drink mix, being risk-averse in ultras, and how training for Cocodona (year 5!) is going. There's a bunch of insight here—especially if you're a thru-hiker looking at ultras, or an ultra runner wondering what lessons the long trails can teach.Oh—and we start by breaking some actual running news: Des Linden is coming for the 50-mile world record at Tunnel Hill. So yeah, this episode really has it all.Support our sponsors Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.comStay elite, my friends.takeawaysDes Linden is making waves in ultra running.Pacing strategies are crucial for ultra marathons.Nutrition needs differ between ultra running and thru-hiking.Sleep and recovery are vital for performance.Problem-solving is key in unsupported races.The importance of adapting training for specific events.The balance between endurance and speed is essential.Chapters00:00 Breaking News in Ultra Running01:11 Jeff's Journey to Ultra Running06:25 Pacing Strategies for Ultra Races12:10 Nutrition: Fueling for Performance20:13 Sleep, Recovery, and Problem Solving Mindset

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with the multi-talented and wildly entertaining Chad Lubinski. Chad is one of the most well-rounded people I've ever met—he's a thru-hiker, ultra runner, backcountry skier, climber, jujitsu practitioner, and full-time content creator. If you've been listening for a while, you may recognize him as the guy who once interviewed me—and now he's back for his third appearance.Follow Chad on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/chadahooche_/https://www.youtube.com/ChadLubinski⁩ Also support us by joining our patreon: www.patreon.com/freeoutside And shopping at our sponsors: garagegrowngear.com and Janji.com-We kick off the conversation with the unexpected burden of being named Chad in the age of TikTok stereotypes, but quickly dive into topics like:-Why thru-hikers should give trail running and ultra running a shot-The underrated magic of fastpacking and why it's the life hack for outdoor lovers with limited time-Chad's story of going from a probation officer to full-time content creator-What it really takes to build a career around your outdoor passions-Working with brands, avoiding the red flags, and learning how to say no-The art of storytelling in adventure documentaries—and why gear isn't everything-Why filming your adventures doesn't ruin the experience (and may actually make it better)-The best kind of suffering (and how Chad would design the ultimate sufferfest race)Whether you're curious about building a career in the outdoors, documenting your adventures, or just wondering what it takes to live an unconventional life, this one's packed with inspiration, hard truths, and plenty of laughs.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Chad Lubinsky03:00 The Impact of Names and Identity05:51 Exploring Thru-Hiking and Ultra Running09:12 Fast Packing: A New Approach to Hiking12:01 The Transition from Hiking to Content Creation14:59 Overcoming Adversity on the John Muir Trail17:56 Taking the Leap: From Job Security to Content Creation20:52 Building a Brand and Monetizing Content23:57 Navigating Brand Partnerships and Content Creation29:54 Navigating Brand Partnerships39:04 The Art of Storytelling in Adventure Filmmaking50:56 Capturing Authentic Experiences56:57 Creating Unique Adventure ChallengesKeywords: Chad Lubinsky, thru-hiking, ultra running, fast packing, content creation, outdoor adventure, John Muir Trail, brand partnerships, hiking tips, outdoor lifestyle, brand partnerships, storytelling, adventure filmmaking, influencer marketing, content creation, authenticity, YouTube, adventure challenges, outdoor experiences, video production

The Barkley Marathons is an ultra-endurance race that challenges participants both physically and mentally. Originating from a prison break, the race is notorious for its difficulty, secretive entry process, and unique navigation requirements. Only a handful of runners have completed the race, which is designed to push competitors to their limits. The conversation explores the race's history, structure, and the community surrounding it, highlighting the mental toughness required to participate and the inspiration it provides to runners.Support our sponsors: garagegrowngear.com and janji.comtakeawaysThe Barkley Marathons was inspired by a prison break.It took 10 years for the first finisher to complete the race.The race is designed to be on the verge of possible.Only one person completed a fun run this year.The entry process is secretive and unique.Runners must navigate without GPS, using only a map and compass.Mental toughness is crucial for success in the race.The race fosters a strong sense of community among participants.The race's difficulty increases as more people finish it.The Barkley Marathons inspires runners to push their limits.Chapters00:00 The Origins of the Barkley Marathons02:51 The Challenge and Difficulty of the Race05:47 The Unique Entry Process and Race Structure08:50 Navigating the Course: Skills and Strategies12:09 Mental Toughness and the Experience of Running15:04 The Community and Culture of the Barkley Marathons18:11 Inspiration and the Future of the Barkley Marathonskeywords: Barkley Marathons, ultra running, endurance race, Laz Lake, mental toughness, navigation skills, running community, race history, outdoor challenges, extreme sports

I just ran in circles for 12 hours—and somehow, I had a blast. In this episode, I break down my experience at a fixed-time ultra, a 12-hour race on a looped course in Boise. Why did I do it? To test my fueling, sodium, and hydration strategies ahead of Cocodona 250. I dive into the numbers, what worked, what didn't, and the mental lessons I took away—including how I let the course record change my race plan (oops). I also talk about my pre-race anxiety, dealing with mid-race curveballs, and how a simple gear change solved an unexpected issue. Plus, a ridiculous drive home involving a blizzard and a detour. If you're into race strategy, mindset, or just love hearing about long, grueling efforts, this one's for you. Stay elite, my friends.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Journey02:52 Building Confidence Through Racing05:48 Nutrition Strategy and Preparation09:12 Race Day Experience and Challenges11:59 Mental Resilience and Goal Setting14:50 Lessons Learned and Future PlansSupport the show by supporting our sponsors:Garagegrowngear.comjanji.comTakeawaysI needed a confidence builder this year.Nutrition strategy is crucial for long races.Gut training is essential for endurance events.Mental resilience plays a key role in racing.Always have a plan and stick to it.Adjusting to race day conditions is important.Communication with race officials can be challenging.Learning from each race helps improve future performance.Support from friends and family is invaluable.Setting clear goals can enhance performance.Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideKeywordsultramarathon, nutrition, race strategy, mental resilience, goal setting, endurance running, Cocodona, Jeff Garmire, running tips, training

On this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with long-time friend and outdoor entrepreneur Luke Pearsall, the founder of Trail Goods Co, a new freeze-dried camping meal brand. Luke shares his winding path from working on major Hollywood productions like Lost and Entourage, to becoming an adventure guide in South America, and ultimately, to launching his own freeze dried food company.Check out Trail Goods Co at trailgoods.co!And on Instagram: instagram.com/trailgoodscompanyWe dive into:The persistence it takes to break into TV and film (including hilarious celeb stories)What it's like to guide 8-week tours through South AmericaHow hunting, hiking, and conservation are deeply connectedThe realities of starting a food business, from product development to retailThe influencer culture, sponsorship requests, and the right way to pitch a brandMine and Luke's chaotic pandemic-era Instagram show, Tuesdays at 2With plenty of laughs, insights, and industry secrets, this episode is for anyone who loves adventure, business, and wild career pivots. Support our sponsors: Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.comChapters00:00 Introduction to Luke Pearsall and Trail Goods Company02:54 The Journey of Outdoor Passion and Early Experiences06:06 Transitioning from TV to Outdoor Guiding09:11 Life Lessons from the Film Industry11:50 The Impact of Relationships and Networking15:01 Guiding Adventures in South America18:02 The Role of Food in Outdoor Experiences21:01 Building Trail Goods Company24:03 Navigating Challenges in Business27:01 The Importance of Persistence and Connection32:49 From Layoff to Launch: A Year of Transformation41:31 Navigating the Challenges of Entrepreneurship52:58 The Art of Freeze-Drying: Quality vs. Cost01:03:06 Building a Brand in a Crowded Market01:06:16 The Art of Influencer Marketing01:09:11 The Role of AI in Influencer Marketing01:10:07 Creative Meal Options for Outdoor Adventures01:12:00 Celebrity Encounters and Storytelling01:14:07 Nostalgia and the Birth of 'Tuesdays at 2'01:17:03 Personal Style and IdentityKeywordsLuke Pearsall, Trail Goods Company, outdoor adventure, hiking, food, film industry, networking, entrepreneurship, guiding, South America, entrepreneurship, freeze-dried meals, outdoor industry, business launch, networking, persistence, brand building, food industry, scaling, influencer marketing, influencer marketing, AI, outdoor meals, celebrity stories, social media, Tuesdays at 2, personal branding, hiking, food, storytelling

In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I share a series of thrilling and humorous animal encounters from his extensive outdoor adventures. From close calls with moose and grizzly bears to unexpected interactions with goats and mice, I recount my experiences with wildlife while hiking and trail running. I also touches on human interactions in the wild and share rapid-fire stories of various animal encounters, culminating in his recent trail work experience. This episode captures the essence of outdoor adventure and the unpredictability of nature.Support us by shopping at Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.comTakeawaysJeff has had numerous animal encounters while hiking.Moose can be surprisingly aggressive when startled.Grizzly bears are intimidating but can be managed with bear spray.Goats are territorial and can act aggressively over resources.Mice can invade your space if you're not careful with food storage.Human interactions in the wild can be unpredictable and alarming.Animals like coyotes can be intimidating when they surround your camp.Unexpected wildlife encounters can lead to humorous stories.Trail work is a rewarding way to give back to the outdoor community.Every outdoor adventure comes with its own set of challenges and surprises.Sound Bites"I had to run from a moose.""I just got charged by a grizzly.""Goats are surprisingly territorial.""I woke up to a mouse in my tent.""Coyotes circled my tent at night.""I carried a heavy cable for trail work."Chapters00:00 Introduction to Animal Encounters02:53 Moose Encounters: A Close Call06:11 Grizzly Bear Stories: Facing Fear09:09 Goat Encounters: Unexpected Territoriality12:00 Mice and Other Small Creatures14:51 Human Interactions in the Wild18:08 Rapid Fire Animal Encounters21:02 Trail Work and Community EngagementKeywordsanimal encounters, hiking stories, outdoor adventures, wildlife experiences, grizzly bears, moose, goats, trail running, nature, Jeff Garmire

In this episode, I break down my complete training approach for the Cocodona 250, one of the toughest ultramarathons out there. I dive into my background in trail running, FKTs, and endurance racing, sharing how I structure my training using a polarized model to maximize performance and longevity. I outline my weekly training schedule, how I manage injuries and recovery, and the nutrition and fueling strategies that keep me going strong in multi-day races. I also discuss the importance of heart rate monitoring and how I train my mindset for the grueling 250-mile challenge. Whether you're training for your first ultra or looking to refine your strategy for an epic endurance race, this episode is packed with insights to help you push your limits on the trail.Support us by shopping at Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.com and telling them I sent youFollowFreeoutside.substack.comInstagram.com/freeoutsidepodcastPatreon.com/FreeoutsideTakeawaysCocodona 250 is a 250-mile race that requires extensive training.A polarized training model is effective for endurance athletes.Injury management is crucial for long-distance training.Nutrition and fueling strategies can significantly impact performance.Heart rate monitoring helps in understanding training intensity.Mental strategies are important for overcoming challenges during races.Specific race preparation includes practicing with gear and nutrition.Flexibility in training schedules can aid recovery and performance.Building a strong base is essential for ultramarathon success.Community support and social running can enhance the training experience.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Personal Background02:49 Training Philosophy and Approach06:14 Polarized Training Model09:05 Weekly Training Schedule11:54 Injury Management and Recovery15:13 Nutrition and Fueling Strategies18:05 Heart Rate Monitoring and Training Zones20:54 Specific Race Preparation23:49 Mindset and Mental Strategies26:46 Conclusion and Future PlansKeywordsCocodona 250, ultramarathon training, polarized training, nutrition, heart rate monitoring, injury recovery, mental strategies, running schedule, endurance racing, athlete mindset

This episode is pure storytelling chaos. I sat down with Joe "Stringbean" McConaughy, and we covered everything from FKTs gone wrong to ultra running hallucinations and how his dog literally ate his golden ticket. We relive our worst gear failures, talk about what it really takes to push through a 200-miler, and debate whether burping is the key to ultra success (yes, seriously). Joe shares his journey from setting the Pacific Crest Trail record to coaching and racing at the highest level, and we swap war stories about the Arizona Trail, John Muir Trail, and why we both seem to choose the absolute worst conditions for FKTs. If you're into absurd ultra running tales, bad decisions, and lessons learned the hard way, this one's for you.This episode is brought to you by: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/https://janji.com/So tell them I sent you! Follow Joe online: https://www.instagram.com/thestring.bean/And my sister's knitting account: https://www.instagram.com/knitted.with.grace/TakeawaysJoe is not a vegan athlete, despite misconceptions.He emphasizes the importance of a well-rounded diet.His first FKT experience was filled with overconfidence.Trusting technology can lead to unexpected challenges.Hallucinations can occur during extreme endurance events.Mental challenges are as significant as physical ones.The John Muir Trail inspired Joe to pursue FKTs.Caffeine and sleep management are crucial for performance.Hallucinations can lead to dangerous situations.The psychological aspect of running is multifaceted. Survival situations often involve extreme conditions and mental challenges.Gear failures can significantly impact performance in ultra running.It's important to invest in reliable gear for long-distance events.Coaching requires continuous learning and adaptation to athletes' needs.Sleep strategies are crucial for endurance races, but they vary by individual.Being selfish in races can enhance performance and personal experience.Self-supported racing fosters independence and self-reliance.The journey into coaching can be both rewarding and challenging.Understanding one's body and its responses is key to successful racing.The golden ticket symbolizes achievement but comes with its own challenges.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Veganism and Misconceptions03:05 First FKT Experiences and Overcoming Fears05:54 Challenges on the Arizona Trail08:58 The John Muir Trail: Inspiration and Aspirations11:55 Experiences on Mount Whitney14:56 Hallucinations and Mental Challenges in Ultra Running18:10 The Psychological Aspects of Endurance Running23:49 Survival and Extreme Conditions25:37 Lessons from Gear Failures28:32 The Burping Dilemma31:57 The Journey into Coaching36:27 Navigating Sleep Strategies39:30 The Importance of Selfishness in Racing43:25 Golden Ticket TalesSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

I've spent years hiking, running, and living on public lands. I've slept on BLM land when I didn't have a home, hiked trails maintained by crews that just got laid off, and even worked for the federal government myself. So when I see massive funding cuts to the National Park Service, the BLM, and the U.S. Forest Service, I'm worried what's at stake—and it's not just a few overgrown trails.These cuts mean fewer rangers, fewer fire crews, fewer trail maintenance teams, and fewer resources to keep the places we love open and accessible. Roads to trailheads won't be graded. Bridges will rot. Outhouses will be locked. When trails go too long without maintenance, they don't just get rough—they disappear.And it's not just the land that's being affected. The people who dedicate their lives to public service, often choosing passion over a bigger paycheck, are being thrown out of work. Trail crews—many of which give young people a foot in the door to outdoor careers—are being gutted. The people who protect and preserve these spaces are being fired while the richest man in the world brags about playing with a chainsaw.If you care about trails, outdoor spaces, or even just the ability to drive to a trailhead without destroying your car, now's the time to pay attention. You don't have to be an activist, but you should at least know what's happening to the land that makes trail running, hiking, and adventuring possible. Because if we don't fight to keep these places funded and protected, we're going to wake up one day and realize they're gone.We are supported by Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.comChapters:00:00 The State of Public Lands and Job Cuts09:53 Community Engagement and Local Initiatives20:09 Trail Maintenance and Environmental Impact25:49 Lighthearted Moments and Listener Questions

I talk with Helen Mino Faulkner, a professional trail runner who recently placed fourth at the Tarwera 100k. We discuss her decision to turn down a golden ticket to Western States 100, her experiences racing in New Zealand, and the challenges of training through winter in Truckee. Helen shares her journey back to running after a hiatus, the importance of excitement in racing, and how living in a seasonal environment contributes to success. We also explore her path to becoming a professional athlete, the role of yoga, and the differences she has experienced racing in Europe compared to the U.S. In this conversation, Helen Mino Faukner and I discuss various aspects of trail running, including the vibrant community in Europe, the realities of ultra running, and the challenges of nutrition during races. We also explore Helen's aspirations for future races, her experiences with the Tahoe to Yosemite route, and her approach to creating engaging content for her YouTube channel. The conversation highlights the excitement and challenges of the trail running lifestyle, as well as the importance of community support and personal goals.Follow Helen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/helenredcloud/Follow Helen on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ @helenminofaukner TakeawaysHelen turned down the golden ticket after careful consideration.She enjoys racing in diverse environments, like New Zealand.Training in winter involves cross-country skiing and lower mileage.Excitement and positivity are key to her racing mindsetHelen's journey back to running was inspired by friends and community.Living in Truckee allows for seasonal variety in training.She values the community found in both running and yogaHelen's path to professional running was unexpected but fulfilling.Yoga helps her maintain balance and prevent injuries.Racing in Europe offers a different experience with well-maintained trails. There's a vibrant trail running community in Europe.Aid stations often lack the variety of food expected.Ultra running is more about speed than socializing at aid stations.Planning for long runs requires careful consideration of conditions.Helen's dream of running from Tahoe to Yosemite remains on her list.Creating YouTube content involves spontaneity and personal experiences.The importance of community support in trail running is evident.Nutrition strategies in ultra running can be quite unique.Future goals include various challenging trails and races.Helen enjoys the thrill of competitive races close to home.Chapters00:00 Turning Down the Golden Ticket03:03 Racing in New Zealand06:00 Training Through Winter09:14 The Importance of Excitement in Racing12:09 The Journey Back to Running14:55 Living in Truckee: The Value of Seasons17:54 Becoming a Professional Athlete20:55 The Role of Yoga in Running23:54 The Differences in Racing in Europe29:40 Trail Running Community in Europe31:34 The Reality of Ultra Running32:52 Aid Stations and Nutrition in Races34:11 Dreams and Aspirations in Trail Running37:53 Planning the Tahoe to Yosemite Route41:56 Future Trail Running Goals and Aspirations43:40 Creating Engaging YouTube Content49:39 Upcoming Races and Personal GoalsSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside

In this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I chat with thru-hiker and content creator Stella Hikes, who is preparing for one of the biggest challenges in long-distance hiking—the Calendar Year Triple Crown. Stella shares her hiking background, the inspiration behind attempting this ambitious feat, and the intense planning process required to hike the Appalachian Trail (AT), Pacific Crest Trail (PCT), and Continental Divide Trail (CDT) in a single year.We dive into her experience on the long trails, her approach to efficiency and nutrition, her strategy for tackling snow and weather challenges, and the importance of storytelling and content creation on the trail. I also shares insights from my own Calendar Year Triple Crown in 2016, including snow struggles, gear choices, and the evolution of thru-hiking.

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, we welcome Will Murray, a math teacher, coach, and elite runner who recently punched his ticket to Western States 100. Will shares his unique journey from growing up in Georgia as a baseball player to rediscovering running after college, transitioning from cycling to trail racing, and ultimately shocking the ultra world with a Golden Ticket win at Black Canyon 100K.Our Black Canyon Coverage: https://youtu.be/SO-6YkxWczM?si=IXEDglz96vCwI6p7Support me by shopping at Janji.com and Garage Grown GearTopics:

I sit down with Kelly Newlon—runner, chef, agent, Nuggets fan, and all-around community builder. Kelly shares the journey of founding RAD (Real Athlete Diets), a business that blends her love for trail running and cooking, and how she went from feeding friends training for races to fueling elite athletes on FKTs and multi-day expeditions. We dive into what it takes to support endurance athletes, the challenges of meal planning for unpredictable cravings, and her work as an agent helping athletes navigate sponsorships and contracts. Kelly also shares insights into the outdoor industry, the growth of trail running, and the lessons she's learned from working with both brands and athletes.Find Kelly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/radboulder/If you're curious about the intersection of performance, fueling, and the business of professional trail running, this episode is for you!Support us by checking out Janji.com and telling them we sent you TakeawaysKelly Newlon combines her passions for cooking and running.The idea for Rad, Real Athlete Diets came from a personal need.Entrepreneurship requires saying yes to many opportunities at first.Nutrition plays a crucial role in supporting FKTs and athletes.Flexibility and adaptability are key in meal planning for athletes.Building relationships with athletes and brands is essential.Kelly emphasizes the importance of emotional growth for young athletes.She prefers a retainer system over a percentage-based payment model.Understanding both athlete and brand perspectives is vital in representation.Kelly aims to empower athletes to manage their own careers. Brands prioritize community, marketing, and performance.Understanding a brand's ethos is crucial for athletes.Performance metrics directly influence sales.Athletes should highlight their sponsors in their content.The trail running community is growing rapidly.New brands are emerging, creating competition.Live streaming is changing the landscape of races.Athletes need to maintain a day job for stability.The sport allows for various levels of participation.Respecting the history of the sport is essential.Chapters00:00 Finding Community and Passion03:09 The Birth of Rad, Real Athlete Diets05:57 Navigating the Challenges of Entrepreneurship08:56 Supporting FKTs: The Role of Nutrition12:02 The Chef's Approach to Athlete Support15:13 The Transition to Athlete Representation18:00 Navigating Relationships in Athlete Management33:38 Understanding Brand Values in Sports Sponsorship42:51 The Growth and Evolution of Trail Running50:47 Challenges and Opportunities in the Trail Running Industry01:00:39 The Realities of Being a Professional Athlete

In this solo episode of The Free Outside Show, I'm answering some of the biggest running questions I've been getting lately—especially around heat training, endurance nutrition, speed work, Ketones, Sodium Bicarbonate, and recovery. I break down the best strategies for sauna sessions, heat adaptation, and passive heat training, plus how to avoid overdoing it.subscribe to the podcast, patreon, and substack!I also dive into race-day and ultra running nutrition, covering carbs, hydration, and gut training so you can perform your best without bonking. And of course, I tackle the big question of speed work—how often should you do it, why social media makes it seem like everyone is always running fast, and how to actually train smarter (not just harder).What I Cover in This Episode:

We're back with the most requested guest of the Free Outside Podcast—except it's just me requesting him. For his third appearance, Derrick Lytle joins the show to break down the Black Canyon 100K with the most in-depth, possibly inaccurate, but definitely entertaining preview out there. We discuss the dreamers and receivers of golden tickets, the state of ultra running rivalries (hint: we just ignited one), and why Hayden Hawks could still win this race from New Zealand. We also cover influencer participation (or lack thereof), how to look good for the live stream, and public domain excuses you can use if your race goes sideways. Other highlights include:

On today's episode of the Free Outside Show, we're joined by Grant Barnette—a thru-hiker turned Pro ultrarunner who has tackled some of the toughest races in the world. Grant has hiked the Appalachian Trail and Pacific Crest Trail, holds the DC Peaks 50 course record, placed 2nd at Grindstone 100, 5th at Speedgoat 50K, and was the third American at CCC at UTMB. Most recently, he signed a pro contract with Craft. Follow Grant online: https://www.instagram.com/runwithgrant/ We dive into how he transitioned from carrying a heavy pack on the PCT to discovering Angeles Crest 100 in middle of a thru-hike, his nomadic lifestyle living out of his truck while chasing FKTs, and his journey through ski mountaineering and backcountry adventures in Utah. He shares his take on training with a job, fueling strategies, sponsorships, and the challenges of race selection for the US Trail Team. Plus, we discuss the controversial selection process for the World Trail Running Championships, how social media and live-streaming influence race prestige, and what it's like lining up next to Jim Walmsley at UTMB. Takeaways Grant Barnett has a rich background in trail running and ultra events. The transition from through-hiking to competitive running can be inspired by encounters on the trail. Living in a truck and pursuing a passion for running can lead to unexpected opportunities. Ski mountaineering offers a unique training method for ultra running. The importance of mentorship in outdoor sports is highlighted through Grant's relationship with Joey Campanelli. Media coverage significantly influences race popularity and athlete opportunities. Qualifying races for championships may not always reflect true mountain running skills. The culture of ski resorts can mirror the lifestyle of through-hikers. Nutrition and hydration strategies change drastically in winter sports. Community support and shared experiences are vital in the outdoor sports world. Wasatch 100 is a historic race but lacks hype. Experiencing a DNF can be deeply embarrassing. Bouncing back from a DNF is crucial for growth. The bond between twin athletes can be unique and supportive. Modern running science is complex and ever-evolving. Finding what works for your body is essential in fueling. Crew support can significantly impact race performance. The emotional toll of racing can be challenging to navigate. The evolution of race formats keeps the sport dynamic. Shoes and gear have advanced significantly in recent years. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Grant Barnett and His Achievements 02:55 The Journey to Trail Running 06:04 Life Changes and New Beginnings in Salt Lake City 09:05 Trail Names and Film Appearances 12:05 Ski Mountaineering and Training Techniques 15:02 World Championship Disappointments and Race Qualifiers 26:09 The Legacy of Wasatch 100 29:11 The Evolution of Golden Ticket Races 32:57 The Emotional Toll of DNF 35:31 Bouncing Back: Success at DC Peaks 37:20 The Unique Bond of Twin Athletes 39:11 Navigating Modern Running Science 44:17 The Importance of Crew Support Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside

I'm joined by Ken Seals, the creator of The Ultra Minute on Substack, for an exciting and wide-ranging episode of the podcast! Fun fact: a hurricane is what led Ken to running. We dive into the trends we hope to see emerge in 2025, bold predictions for the future of ultrarunning, and some of the key happenings during the sport's so-called “off season.” Find the Ultra Minute on Substack: https://ultraminute.substack.com/ This conversation covers a little bit of everything: the rise of longer races like Cocodona and their growing appeal, what we can expect at Western States this year (and why it might be one of the most exciting editions yet), and the evolution of ultrarunning media. Ken also shares insights into his own journey, from thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail to starting The Ultra Minute. We talk about the impact of sustainability and technology on gear, how science and data are changing the way athletes train and recover, and why platforms like Substack and YouTube are becoming essential tools for athletes to tell their stories and connect with fans. Takeaways Ken Seals transitioned from mountain biking to ultra running after losing his bike in a hurricane. The Ultra Minute newsletter was created to provide concise updates on ultra running for busy fans. Substack is gaining popularity among ultra runners as a platform for storytelling and community engagement. David Roach's rise in the ultra running scene is creating a compelling narrative for the sport. The importance of unbiased reporting in sports journalism is emphasized in the context of ultra running. Athletes are beginning to use Substack to share their personal journeys and connect with fans. Nutrition and recovery are becoming increasingly important topics in ultra running performance. The conversation highlights the potential for science to improve training and recovery in ultra running. The dynamics of team structures in ultra running differ significantly from cycling, impacting athlete support. The discussion suggests that the future of ultra running may involve more athlete-driven content and storytelling. Personal stories in ultra running can inspire others to share their journeys. Content creation around races can elevate the sport's visibility. Emerging competitors bring fresh narratives to the ultra running scene. Longer distances are gaining popularity and changing the competitive landscape. Athletes are increasingly using their platforms for advocacy and social issues. The dynamics of competition are shifting with new athletes entering the field. The storytelling aspect of races can enhance viewer engagement. Sustainability and product longevity are becoming key focuses for brands. The rise of AI and tailored training plans may change how athletes prepare. The potential for betting on ultra running could reshape the sport's audience. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Ultra Running and Substack 09:14 The Rise of Substack in Ultra Running 36:14 David Roach vs. The World: A New Rivalry in Ultra Running 39:52 The Impact of Personal Stories in Ultra Running 43:40 The Future of Content Creation in Ultra Running 47:40 Emerging Competitors and Storylines in Ultra Running 53:35 The Rise of Longer Distances in Ultra Running 57:17 Hot Takes and Predictions for the Upcoming Season keywords: ultrarunning, Substack, David Roach, trends 2025, ultra running news, athlete stories, heat training, nutrition, supplements, community, Ultra Running, Western States, David Roach, Content Creation, Emerging Competitors, Long Distance Running, Predictions, Athlete Stories, Trail Running, Race Coverage

In this episode, I sit down with Brooke Bjorge, the owner of Grit Sports Nutrition and an athlete herself, to dive into the critical role of sodium in endurance sports. We cover everything from the dangers of hyponatremia and how to avoid cramping in an ultramarathon, to the differences between sodium citrate and sodium chloride and why it matters for performance. Brooke also shares insights on sweat testing, building personalized hydration plans, and navigating the high-carb fueling trends in endurance racing. Whether you're training for a thru-hike, tackling a 100-miler, or just want to optimize your performance, this conversation is packed with practical tips and science-backed strategies. Follow Brooke: https://www.gritsportsnutrition.com/ takeaways Sodium is crucial for muscle contraction and cognitive function. Hyponatremia is more common than hypernatremia among athletes. Sodium citrate is better absorbed than sodium chloride. Athletes should aim to replace 60-90% of sodium losses during events. Sweat rate testing is essential for developing hydration protocols. Sodium intake can be adjusted based on environmental conditions. Recovery nutrition should include protein, carbs, and fats. Weight loss goals should not compromise athletic performance. Carbohydrate intake should be individualized based on athlete size and needs. Post-exercise hydration is critical for recovery. Sound Bites "Most people run the risk of consuming too little." "Sodium is in charge of so many essential functions." "Sodium citrate is much better absorbed by the body." "You want to replace 60 to 90% of sodium losses." "You don't want to go overboard either." "You can only right the ship to a certain extent." "Not everybody needs more carbs." "Recovery fueling and hydration is huge." Chapters 00:00 The Importance of Sodium in Athletics 03:08 Types of Sodium and Their Absorption 06:05 Sweat Rate and Sodium Replacement 09:13 Developing a Hydration Protocol 12:06 Methods of Sodium Ingestion 15:01 Addressing Sodium Deficiency During Events 17:52 Carbohydrate Intake and Performance 21:00 Navigating Weight Loss and Performance 23:49 Post-Run Recovery Strategies keywords: sodium, sports nutrition, endurance athletes, hydration, sweat rate, sodium replacement, electrolyte balance, carbohydrate intake, weight loss, recovery

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with Matthew Shepard—better known as Shep—to talk all things trail running, ultra-endurance racing, and his incredible journey in the outdoors. From growing up wandering the wilderness with a rifle in hand to becoming a standout competitor in backyard ultras and the Director of Field Operations at Sinister Sports, Shep's story is nothing short of inspiring. Follow Shep online: https://www.instagram.com/go_shep/ We dive into the unique dynamics of backyard ultras, Shep's strategies for enduring multi-day races, and some of his wildest encounters in the Canadian Rockies—like finding a fresh moose carcass and rerouting trails to avoid bears. He shares how he balances racing with his role at Sinister Sports, including the behind-the-scenes work of creating epic 200-mile races. We also discuss the mindset it takes to embrace failure, the joy of pushing boundaries, and how challenges like these make life richer. Shep talks about his plans for the Wild Horse 200 in Wales, while I reflect on my adventures, including the Pacific Northwest Trail and Great Western Loop. takeaways -Shep has been passionate about the outdoors since childhood. -Wildlife encounters can be both fascinating and challenging during races. -The backyard ultra format allows for a unique pacing strategy. -Camaraderie among racers is crucial in long-distance events. -Mental challenges are a significant aspect of racing. -Visualization techniques can enhance performance in races. -Failure is an essential part of the racing experience. -Crew support is vital for success in long-distance events. -Shep emphasizes the importance of adaptability during races. -The trail running community is growing rapidly, with exciting new events Chapters 00:00 The Roots of a Trail Runner 14:00 Wildlife Encounters in the Outdoors 17:04 The Journey into Trail Racing 20:14 Understanding the Backyard Format 23:01 World Team Championship Explained 26:06 Camaraderie in Competition 29:00 Mental Challenges and Strategies 32:00 The Social Aspect of Racing 35:08 Navigating the Last Two 37:56 Hallucinations and Sleep Deprivation 41:02 Crew Dynamics and Support 44:58 The Struggle of Pushing Limits 50:29 Mindset and Visualization in Racing 53:01 Exploring Backyard Races 53:17 Joining Sinister Sports 56:09 Planning New Races and Routes 01:00:34 Challenges of Organizing 200-Mile Races 01:01:39 Future Plans and Upcoming Races 01:03:11 Life in Extreme Cold 01:05:07 Reflections on Adventure and Accomplishment keywords: trail running, backyard ultra, wildlife encounters, mental challenges, camaraderie, Sinister Sports, long-distance racing, Shep, World Team Championship, racing strategies

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, I'm joined by Pete Deneen, a climate scientist, award-winning writer, and the Chief Executive of the Keep Sespe Wild Foundation. Together, we dive into the wildfires that have devastated California, including the recent LA firestorm, one of the most costly and destructive disasters in U.S. history. Find Keep Sespe Wild online Pete brings his deep knowledge of climate science and his personal experience living in the fire-prone Sespe wilderness to the conversation. We break down what makes these fires so intense, the factors fueling them, and the role of climate change in doubling extreme fire weather days. From the science behind Santa Ana winds to the surprising impacts of fire retardants like Foscheck, this episode is packed with insights you won't find in headlines. Find Pete Deneen online We also explore the balance between living with fire and managing it, and the importance of community, conservation, and education in protecting our wildlands. Whether you're an outdoor enthusiast, a trail runner, or just curious about the forces shaping our environment, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about fire, nature, and how we live in these landscapes. Support us at Janji.com and tell them we sent you takeaways -California wildfires are among the most destructive in U.S. history. -The interplay of wet and dry years significantly affects fire risks. -Santa Ana winds can exacerbate wildfire conditions. -Climate change has increased the frequency of fire weather days. -Defensible space around homes is crucial for fire survival. -Foscheck is a useful tool in firefighting but has environmental impacts. -Post-fire recovery can lead to ecological resilience in certain areas. -Community engagement is vital for effective fire management. -Misconceptions about wildfires often oversimplify complex issues. -Nonprofits play a key role in environmental education and stewardship. Sound Bites "These areas have evolved to burn." "Foscheck is an effective tool." "We have to coexist with fire." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Wildfires in California 04:57 Current Situation of the Fires 07:32 Factors Contributing to Fire Risk 12:34 Understanding Santa Ana Winds 18:02 Fire Spread and Containment Challenges 21:32 Impact of Firefighting Techniques 25:52 Post-Fire Recovery and Environmental Impact 31:02 Future Mitigation and Prevention Strategies 32:46 Coexisting with Nature: A Journey with Native Plants 32:51 Hardening Communities Against Wildfires 33:27 Understanding Historical Fire Regimes 38:21 The Era of Fire Suppression and Its Consequences 39:53 Predictive Tools for Fire Awareness 43:52 Debunking Misconceptions About Wildfires 50:32 The Role of Nonprofits in Conservation and Education keywords: California wildfires, climate change, Santa Ana winds, fire management, environmental impact, community engagement, wildfire recovery, firefighting techniques, ecological resilience, wildfire misconceptions

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I'm sharing all about my recent trip to Big Bend National Park—a week packed with hiking, backpacking, and adventure. From spotting javelinas to scrambling up Emory Peak at sunset, I dive into how this trip fits into my training for FKTs and ultra races like the Cocodona 250 and Big Horn 100. patreon.com/freeoutside I also break down my plans for 2025, including a self-supported southbound Appalachian Trail FKT attempt and exciting interviews I've lined up with top athletes, calendar year Triple Crowners, and more. Along the way, I talk gear tips, training insights, and even some funny moments about ghost towns, dehydrated meals, and my love for rocks.

In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I share my journey from ideas to goals, discussing my plans for the Appalachian Trail record and the importance of creativity in trail running. I reflect on the impact of COVID on past goals, explore the role of ketones in endurance sports, and emphasize the growth of his podcast and personal development. I also delve into fueling strategies for endurance events, highlighting the need for balance and experimentation in training. Support this content patreon.com/freeoutside takeaways -Ideas can evolve into dreams and then into actionable goals. -COVID impacted many athletes' plans, including mine. -Creativity is abundant in today's world, especially in trail running. -Content creation is a vital part of sharing my journey. -Ketones can aid mental sharpness during extreme fatigue. -The podcast has significantly contributed to my personal growth. -Communication skills are essential for connecting with others. -Fueling strategies need to be tailored to individual needs. -The ultra running community is still developing and experimenting. -It's important to stay elite and committed to your goals. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Big Announcement 05:38 Planning for the Appalachian Trail Record 10:52 Capturing the Journey: Content Creation Plans 20:59 Reflections on the New Year and Podcast Growth 27:48 Fueling Strategies for Endurance Events Keywords: trail running, Appalachian Trail, goals, creativity, ketones, endurance, podcasting, personal growth, FKT, planning

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I dive into one of the hottest (and coldest) topics sweeping the endurance sports world: passive heat exposure and cold plunging. Whether you're a runner, cyclist, triathlete, or just curious about optimizing recovery and performance, this episode has you covered. Support the podcast at Patreon.com/freeoutside I explore the science, benefits, and potential downsides of cold plunges—discussing how they reduce inflammation, build mental toughness, and help with rapid recovery, but might blunt long-term training adaptations. Then, I shift gears to heat training, unpacking how saunas, hot baths, and even layering up during workouts can improve blood plasma volume, VO₂ max, and heat tolerance while boosting overall endurance. With a mix of personal experience, coaching insights, studies, and more, I help you understand when and how to use these tools for maximum benefit. Plus, I outline how I integrate them into my own training schedule. Should you heat things up or chill out? Tune in to learn how to adapt these strategies for your goals—and avoid the bro-culture traps along the way. takeaways Cold plunges can reduce muscle inflammation and soreness. Heat exposure improves cardiovascular efficiency and VO2 max. Cold plunging may blunt training adaptations if used too frequently. Sauna use can enhance mental resilience and recovery. Heat training can be beneficial year-round, not just pre-race. Cold plunges are effective for injury recovery and inflammation. Both cold and heat exposure have unique physiological benefits. Training should be structured to incorporate both cold and heat methods. Mental toughness can be developed through discomfort in cold plunges. Everything in life contributes to overall training stress. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Endurance Sports Trends 10:12 Understanding Heat Exposure: Methods and Science 19:56 Comparing Cold and Heat Training: Pros and Cons

In this conversation, Katie Gunvalson shares her journey attempting the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) Fastest Known Time (FKT) in 2024. She discusses her long-standing dream of hiking the PCT, her training and preparation, the challenges she faced including fire closures, and how she found motivation despite setbacks. Katie reflects on the intrinsic value of her experience, the highs and lows of the trail, and her determination to push through to the end, culminating in a remarkable final push to complete the trail. In this conversation, Katie shares her experiences and insights from her journey on the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) while attempting a Fastest Known Time (FKT). She discusses her food strategies, the meticulous planning involved in her FKT attempt, and the emotional challenges she faced, including reflections on failure and the importance of perseverance. Katie also touches on her identity transformation through hiking, the significance of her trail name, and her passion for adventure and art. takeaways Katie had been dreaming about the PCT for over 10 years. The goal was to achieve the southbound record or hike as fast as possible. Katie transitioned from road running to trail running during the pandemic. Her first real thru-hike was the Arizona Trail, which helped her prepare for the PCT. She faced significant challenges with fire closures right at the start of her hike. Despite the setbacks, Katie remained committed to completing the trail. She learned to find joy in the journey, not just the destination. Katie's motivation shifted from achieving a record to personal fulfillment. The experience taught her the importance of intrinsic motivation in outdoor adventures. Katie completed the last 140 miles in a continuous push, demonstrating her resilience. I structured my day to have very limited breaks. I was cold soaking the good old Talenty jar. I had a spreadsheet and a lot of help from previous record holders. I had a very long time to think about failure. You don't have to be the person who gets the thing for it to matter. It's a puzzle and I want to figure it out. Can you turn around and do it again? It's okay to fail and you can find success in anything. I think more women just need to get out there and try it. Failure is not as scary as it sounds when you're starting something. Sound Bites "I was devastated. I didn't even get to try." "This means nothing, but it can matter to me." "I did a couple of 45s, a bunch of 40s." "I finished delirious. Yeah, losing my mind." "I tried to allow myself to sleep." "I was cold soaking the good old Talenty jar." "I had a spreadsheet and a lot of help." "It's a puzzle and I want to figure it out." "Can you turn around and do it again?" "It's okay to fail and you can find success." "Failure is not as scary as it sounds." Chapters 00:00 Setting the Stage for the PCT FKT Attempt 06:02 Training and Preparation for the Trail 12:09 Facing Challenges: Fires and Record Attempts 18:10 Finding Motivation Amidst Adversity 23:52 The Final Push: A Race Against Time 26:05 Fueling the Journey: Food Strategies on the Trail 36:04 Planning for Success: The FKT Strategy 41:15 Reflections on Failure: Lessons Learned from the Trail 45:43 Post-Trail Emotions: Coping with Disappointment 50:36 Identity and Transformation: The Meaning of Trail Names 52:29 The Art of Adventure: Balancing Passion and Reality

In this special episode, Jeff Garmire and Derrick Lytle bring the laughs with The Jeffrey Awards—trail running's greatest trophy! Join us as we hilariously crown winners in outrageous categories celebrating the best, worst, and downright weirdest moments of the trail running and ultra community. Support us on Patreon. Patreon.com/freeoutside

I'm taking you along on a six-day, 150-mile adventure through Los Padres National Forest. It was a trip filled with poison oak, endless bushwhacking, and some questionable decision-making—like losing my hiking partner for a whole night. I'll share everything, from battling overgrown trails to soaking in clothing-optional sespe hot springs, hitchhiking with a pigeon-loving driver, and trying not to let poison oak ruin the whole thing. This episode's a bit experimental with trail audio clips mixed in, but hey, that's how we roll. Support the show on patreon! Patreon.com/freeoutside takeaways -Backpacking is a challenging yet rewarding experience. -Getting lost in the wilderness can be both scary and enlightening. -Resupplying in remote areas can lead to unexpected adventures. -Nature can be harsh, with obstacles like poison oak and rough trails. -The beauty of the outdoors often comes with its own set of challenges. -Camaraderie in hiking can make tough situations more bearable. -Planning is essential, but flexibility is key in outdoor adventures. -Experiencing hot springs after a long hike is a unique reward. -The journey is as important as the destination in backpacking. -Every adventure teaches valuable lessons about nature and oneself. Sound Bites "We actually lost each other." "I got poison oak." "This is such a rough trail." "We hitchhiked into Ojai." "Thanks for listening." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Adventure 02:52 Day One: The Journey Begins 05:55 Day Two: Lost in the Wilderness 09:08 Resupply Challenges and Unexpected Turns 12:04 Climbing and Nature's Obstacles 15:00 The Thorn Point Lookout Tower 18:05 Hot Springs and Final Days 21:13 Conclusion and Reflections

This week on the Free Outside podcast, I continue my epic journey through the month of Jeff with an extraordinary guest: Jeff Jenkins, professional traveler, TV host, and all-around inspiring human. We dive into Jeff's journey from taking his first flight at 20 years old to becoming a globe-trotting storyteller featured in Forbes and the New York Times. We talk about his first transformative experience in Japan, his approach to capturing content that inspires others, and how he's opening up the travel world for plus-size adventurers. Jeff shares behind-the-scenes insights into his Nat Geo TV show, his strategies for manifesting big dreams, and what it takes to build a brand that's authentic, inclusive, and impactful. Whether you're a dreamer, a traveler, or just love hearing about chasing the impossible, this episode will leave you motivated to live boldly. Support the Free Outside Podcast: Patreon.com/freeoutside Follow Jeff Jenkins on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/chubbydiaries/?hl=en takeaways -Travel can be daunting, but the right destination can inspire courage. -Experiencing a new culture can broaden one's perspective. -Building a brand is more important than just being an influencer. -Daily affirmations can help manifest dreams and goals. -Traveling for content can sometimes overshadow the joy of exploration. -Shooting a TV show involves a rigorous schedule and preparation. -Authenticity in relationships is crucial amidst growing fame. -Inclusivity in travel accommodations is essential for all body types. -Persistence is key to success in content creation. -Travel teaches us that despite cultural differences, we are all fundamentally the same. Sound Bites "The travel bug bit me there." "I love Korean barbecue." "I want to go to Antarctica." Chapters 00:00 The Journey Begins: Jeff Jenkins' Early Travel Experiences 07:43 Building a Brand: From Influencer to Professional Traveler 13:44 Culinary Adventures: Memorable Meals from Around the World 19:55 Behind the Scenes: The Reality of Shooting a TV Show 25:55 Lessons from Travel: Common Humanity and Connections 32:08 Future Aspirations: Bucket List Destinations and Content Creation 38:05 Advocacy for Inclusivity: Changing the Travel Industry for All keywords: travel, content creation, Jeff Jenkins, Nat Geo, travel experiences, cultural discoveries, travel advice, travel industry, personal growth, inclusivity

Welcome to another epic installment of The Month of Jeff! In this episode, I'm joined by the one and only Jeff Hester, a trailblazing adventurer who's done it all—from hiking the John Muir Trail 30 years apart to founding the Six Pack of Peaks Challenge and SoCalHiker.net . Find Jeff Hester on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/jeffhester/ Jeff shares incredible stories about thru-hiking in the 1980s (hello, mimeographed itineraries and DIY dehydrated meals!) and how his love for the outdoors evolved into building a vibrant hiking community. We dive deep into the magic of the John Muir Trail, the challenges of the Lost Coast Trail, and how Jeff turned his passion for adventure into a movement inspiring thousands of hikers every year. Support us on Patreon: Patreon.com/freeoutside takeaways -Hiking can be a transformative experience that builds confidence. -Planning and preparation are crucial for successful long hikes. -Resupply strategies can make or break a hiking trip. -Community and social connections enhance the hiking experience. -The evolution of hiking culture reflects broader societal changes. -Documenting hiking experiences can inspire others to explore the outdoors. -Physical maps and traditional navigation offer a different adventure than GPS. -The Lost Coast Trail presents unique challenges and rewards. -Building a community requires consistency and genuine interaction. -The joy of hiking lies in the experience, not just the documentation. Sound Bites "It's a whole different experience than nowadays." "I would go back and do that one again." "You just never know how that's going to end up." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jeff Hester and the John Muir Trail 09:30 Resupply Strategies and Trail Cuisine in 1980 15:39 Life Changes and the Decision to Hike Again 25:12 Growth of the Six Pack of Peaks Challenge 32:55 The 2010 JMT Hike Experience 38:12 Comparing Hiking Experiences: 1980 vs 2010 44:32 The Lost Coast Trail Adventure 53:01 Backpacking Then and Now: A Reflection keywords: John Muir Trail, SoCal Hiker, hiking community, outdoor adventure, backpacking, trail cuisine, resupply strategies, Lost Coast Trail, Six Pack of Peaks, endurance sports

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with filmmaker, fast-packer, and trail runner Jeff Pelletier to explore the intersection of storytelling and adventure. Jeff shares his journey from marathons to the trails, how he balances racing with creating stunning films, and the meticulous planning that goes into his multi-day fast-packing projects and race documentaries. Support us: patreon.com/freeoutside We dive into the art of capturing a narrative while on the move, his experiences with stage races, the challenges of gear and logistics, and how he's carved out a career as a creator in the trail running world. Whether you're curious about filmmaking, fast-packing, or just looking for inspiration to tackle your next big adventure, this conversation is packed with insight and enthusiasm. Find Jeff Pelletier on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/jpelletier/?hl=en takeaways -Fast packing combines hiking and trail running for a unique experience. -Adventure filmmaking requires careful planning and storytelling. -Filming during races presents challenges but can enhance the narrative. -The community aspect of trail running is vital for personal growth. -Sponsorships can evolve from athletic support to creative partnerships. -Creating a YouTube channel requires defining your niche and audience. -Adventure travel can inspire confidence in participants. -Long-form content fosters deeper connections with audiences. -The future of adventure filmmaking includes exploring new niches and stories. -Building a sustainable media company involves diversifying income streams. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Fast Packing 09:34 Trail Running and Race Strategy 15:40 YouTube and Storytelling 21:45 Experiencing the European Hut-to-Hut Style 27:49 Location Scouting and Filmmaking 33:32 Future Aspirations and Goals 39:46 The Shift from Short Form to Long Form Content 44:56 The Evolution of a Media Company 49:48 Navigating Sponsorships and Brand Relationships 59:50 Advice for Aspiring Creators keywords: fast packing, trail running, adventure filmmaking, storytelling, ultra running, YouTube, sponsorship, outdoor community, adventure travel, filmmaking tips

A dynamic conversation with the legendary Jeff Browning on the Free Outside Podcast. With over 200 ultra marathons, 40 wins, and a record-breaking career spanning decades, Jeff shares invaluable insights on longevity in ultrarunning, mindset training, and his approach to coaching. We dive into the evolution of the sport, gear innovations, nutrition strategies, and some wild stories, including his adventures in 200-mile races and the Colorado Trail. This episode is packed with inspiration, laughter, and actionable takeaways for runners of all levels. Don't miss this deep dive into the world of ultrarunning! Follow Jeff on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/gobroncobilly/ takeaways -Jeff Browning has completed nearly 200 ultra marathons and has over 40 wins. -The impact of pregnancy on athletic contracts is significant and groundbreaking. -Coaching plays a crucial role in ultra running, providing personalized training plans. -Nutrition and recovery are key components for success in ultra running. -The transition to 200-mile races presents unique challenges and requires a -different approach. -Mindset is essential for overcoming obstacles during long races. -Chafing management is a critical aspect of ultra running that can affect performance. -The future of trail running may see more specialization among athletes. -Individualized nutrition strategies are important for optimal performance. -Fast packing can be a viable alternative to racing for enjoying the experience. Sound Bites "I need to update them." "I want to appreciate it more." "Bronco Billy has superpowers." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jeff Browning's Achievements 11:54 The Role of Coaching in Ultra Running 17:55 The Evolution of Ultra Running and Training Methods 23:49 Influences and Resources in Training Philosophy 30:23 Training Insights from Elite Runners 36:42 Tracking Training: The Evolution of Technology 43:44 The Shift in Running Shoe Philosophy 49:08 Lessons from Multi-Day Races 54:29 Reflections on Endurance and Motivation 01:00:14 Chafing Challenges and Creative Solutions 01:07:37 Understanding Hydration and Nutrition in Ultra Running 01:17:01 Introduction to Contract Season in Trail Running 01:17:02 The Future of Trail Running and Athlete Negotiations keywords: ultra running, Jeff Browning, coaching, nutrition, trail running, 200-mile races, mindset, athletic contracts, recovery, training methods

In this special "Month of Jeff" episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by the multi-talented Jeffrey James Binney—a comedian, filmmaker, ultra runner, and all-around adventurer. We dive into some deeply relatable topics like imposter syndrome, navigating failure, and finding joy in unexpected hobbies. Jeffrey shares his journey from performing on stage to running 100-mile races and thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, offering insights on embracing discomfort, the power of persistence, and even how comedy shaped his resilience. Support the podcast at patreon.com/freeoutside We discuss the challenges of public success, the unpredictability of trail life, and the lessons learned from pursuing big, scary goals—whether it's finishing an ultra marathon or creating a feature-length film. Plus, there are plenty of laughs as we explore quirky hobbies, share tales of trail mishaps, and unpack the wisdom behind knowing when to quit. Follow Jeffrey James Binney online takeaways Imposter syndrome is common, but everyone is winging it. Failure is a gift that teaches valuable lessons. It's normal to feel unmotivated at times. Stand-up comedy offers a unique sense of ownership. The journey of trail running is filled with unexpected challenges. Finding a coach can provide essential support and guidance. Creativity often stems from a desire to experience everything. Social media fame comes with its own set of challenges. Mental health is crucial in managing public expectations. Embrace the courage it takes to perform in front of an audience. Sound Bites "Nobody knows what they're doing." "I got so bored by the end." "You can do anything you want." Chapters 00:00 Navigating Imposter Syndrome 11:47 The Journey of Comedy and Performance 17:15 The Highs and Lows of Stand-Up 23:14 The Transition to Ultra Running 28:59 Finding a Coach and Training for Success 33:59 Post-Trail Reflections and Future Goals 42:08 The Challenge of Writing a Book 47:15 The Journey of Solitude to Community 55:30 Navigating Expectations and Pressures keywords: Jeffrey James Binney, imposter syndrome, motivation, failure, stand-up comedy, ultra running, creativity, social media, mental health