Podcasts about Colorado Trail

Phred is Back, BIGTIME and he finally reels in his “white whale” guest longtime friend and ultrarunning enigma Steven Tursi. Steven and Phred blab about running streaks, hashing adventures, body image, and a lifelong evolution of what it means to be a runner and a friend. Was Steve the original Johnny Appleseed for Cultra? Enjoy this fabulous Bootleg Cultra (Think Grateful Dead Barton Hall, Cornell University, May 8, 1977)    Episode Highlights: Running Streaks and Ultramarathons Steven shares insights into his nearly 15-year daily running streak (over 5,200 days!)—and the debates surrounding the “continuous mile” rule. Fred and Steven unpack the motivations, sunk cost psychology, and mental games behind long streaks. Recap of Steven's recent race at altitude in the Great Divide 100, and how Colorado elevation humbled him despite living at 5,300 feet. Hashing Culture 101 What exactly is hashing? Steven breaks down the beer-fueled, trail-marked tradition of this global, irreverent running subculture. Stories about hash names (spoiler: “Hot Schweddy Balls”), flour trail controversies, beer stops, and inclusivity in the hashing world. On Body Image and Identity Steven gets candid about his weight, body perception, and running while heavier than most—highlighting his incredible feat of running a sub-24-hour 100-miler at ~275 lbs. Friendship in Adulthood A heartfelt and humorous discussion about how men form (and define) friendships as adults. Fred and Steven reflect on their 15+ year bond, running together at events like Ancient Oaks, TGNY, and Umstead, and how group chats now serve as lifelines for long-distance friendships. The Shift to Journey Runs Steven talks about moving away from racing for results and leaning into slower, more meaningful runs—including a planned 50-mile adventure on the Colorado Trail for his 50th birthday. Memories of the Four Pass Loop, the Manitou Incline “stunt hike,” and past multi-day efforts like Milwaukee to Chicago. Bonus Nuggets Why Steven ran a 24-hour race just to bail at 20 miles and watch football. How rocket launches, mistaken finishes, and sandbagging for friendship make ultra memories. Reflections on The Fair, Starbucks runs after Rocky's, and the joy of repeat traditions.    Tune In If You Like: Not listening to AFB! The human side of ultra running Thoughtful conversations on consistency, identity, and connection A couple of old friends talking about life, beer, streaks, and everything in between   Referenced Events & Topics: Palmer Lake Ultra • Ancient Oaks • Umstead 100 • TGNY • Great Divide 100K • Manitou Incline • Colorado Trail • Hash House Harriers • Running Streaks • Journey Runs • Four Pass Loop • Sub-24 100-milers • Group chats & friendship Get your official Cultra Clothes and other Cultra TRP PodSwag at our store! Outro music by Nick Byram Become a Cultra Crew Patreon Supporter  basic licker.  If you lick us, we will most likely lick you right back Cultra Facebook Fan Page Go here to talk shit and complain and give us advice that we wont follow Cultra Trail Running Instagram Don't watch this with your kids Sign up for a race at Live Loud Running and feel better Buy Fred's Book Running Home More Information on the #CUT112   

In this brutally honest solo episode, I unpack what's been the most stressful month of my life—losing my apartment, unresolved medical issues, financial pressure, and trying to prep for a 100-miler I haven't even packed for. Oh yeah, and I'm attempting a self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT in less than a month. No big deal.But it's not all chaos. I reflect on the finite nature of miles, what "best" really means, and why shared suffering for the wrong reasons is never worth it. I read from Mike Versteeg's powerful Colorado Trail FKT post and explore how ego, purpose, and community collide in our outdoor pursuits. If you've ever questioned the "why" behind your adventures—or what you're asking others to carry for your dreams—this one's worth a listen.Mike Versteeg's Colorado Trail: https://satisfyrunning.com/blogs/possessed/colorado-trail-fkt-field-notesChapters00:00 Navigating Life's Challenges01:30 The Finite Nature of Miles06:08 Lessons from Failure and Community09:44 Embracing Adventure Amidst Uncertainty

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by coach, ultra runner, and creator Justin Andreas—aka Running in Stash. We talk about his wild transformation from jacked military bodybuilder to golden hour 100-miler finisher and trail coach. We dive deep into his life in Alaska, where training includes moose dodging, sub-zero treadmill marathons, and running in negative 49 degrees… in a singlet.We cover everything from his Bighorn 100 tips (mud. lots of mud.) to racing in sandals, brushing teeth mid-ultra, taper meltdowns, and why the golden hour might be the most inspiring part of the sport. We even dish out spicy takes on Spring Energy, toothbrush resets, and how coaching is more about emotional support than the perfect workout.Whether you're a mid-pack legend or an aspiring 200-mile cowboy, this episode brings wisdom, laughs, and plenty of stories from the far north. Also, stay for Justin's mantra: “Don't be a hero in the first half. Don't be a b*tch in the second.”Chapters00:00 From Bodybuilding to Ultra Running: A Journey of Transformation02:59 Preparing for the Bighorn 100: Insights and Experiences05:58 The Unique Culture of Ultra Running: Community and Support08:50 Training in Extreme Conditions: The Alaska Experience11:57 Wildlife Encounters: Running with Nature's Challenges15:01 The Golden Hour: Celebrating Every Finish18:05 Learning from Experience: Coaching and Personal Growth20:55 Mindset Matters: Mantras and Mental Resilience29:57 Running Rituals and Playful Competition30:56 The Joy of Running in Sandals32:49 Camaraderie in Racing33:22 Physical Fitness Tests in the Air Force34:33 Lessons from Nutrition Mistakes38:00 The Magic of Teeth Brushing During Races40:31 Embracing the Taper44:47 The Freedom of Trail Running48:33 The Value of Having a Coach51:37 Excitement for Upcoming RacesSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Send us a textNote: Audio Version only, see YouTube for Video VersionCraig the Natural Medic shares his comprehensive day hiking gear setup for 2025, highlighting essential items that ensure safety and comfort on southwestern trails. His experience as a paramedic and a former park ranger provides these practical recommendations for hikers of all experience levels.• Sun protection strategy includes the Outdoor Vitals sun hoodie with thumb holes and hood coverage• Convertible pants offer versatility for changing weather conditions• North Face Rincon backpack purchased from a thrift store for only $10• Two-liter Platypus water bladder with drinking tube for convenient hydration• Various snacks including freeze-dried strawberries, nuts, and harvest snap peas• Compact but warm Outdoor Vitals Ventus hoodie for insulation• Comprehensive emergency kit with fire starters, signaling mirror, and emergency blanket• Dedicated "poop kit" with trowel, bags, and sanitizer for proper waste disposal• First aid supplies, including a blister treatment kit• Platypus water filter system for accessing natural water sources• Element raspberry salt electrolyte powder for maintaining proper hydrationPlease send us a message with your comments or questions!Support the show

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I dive into a topic that every endurance athlete eventually wrestles with: What's your why?I unpack what it really means to chase big goals in the era of social media, external validation, and highlight reels. From the pressure of performance posts to the value of community and joy in the moment, this is an unfiltered look at what keeps us coming back to these wild endurance events—even when nobody's watching.Topics include:-Why social media can distort your motivation-The difference between intrinsic and extrinsic goals-Lessons from my worst FKTs and best trail moments-The underrated power of fun, struggle, and shared experience-Why Cocodona doesn't “make” anyone—and why you do-Encouragement for media, volunteers, and the mid-pack majority-And how the ultra/trail community is more diverse than it looksWhether you're a front-runner, back-of-the-packer, or just love long miles, this episode is a reminder to step back and ask: Why am I really doing this?Chapters00:00 Exploring the Intrinsic Why06:58 The Three Pillars of Motivation10:12 The Role of Community in Endurance SportsSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Jamie Lambert. We learn why Jamie doesn't have a trail name, and why it's definitely not Strap On, what it's like to thru-hike with your sister- which she did on the PCT in 2018, what it is about thru-hiking that makes it so addictive for her- having taken on long hikes every year over the last 8 seasons, what it's like to become social media famous, and much more. We wrap the show with an overview from day one of Trail Days, some new legislation that could result in finally completing the CDT, why a section of the PCT has been closed for MYLFs, our BS TED talks, and the triple crown of words we'll never pronounce correctly. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKSPRING15” at topoathletic.com. Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  Ombraz: Use code “BACKPACKER30” for $30 off at ombraz.com/discount/backpacker30. Betterment: Learn more at betterment.com/trek. [divider] Interview with Jamie Lambert Jamie's Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:05:00 - Trail Days Day 1 Recap 00:11:00 - Introducing Jamie 00:14:00 - How did you decide to hike the PCT with your sister? 00:18:45 - What's it like working for an orthodontist? 00:23:18 - What was it like to hike with your sister? 00:30:00 - Discussion about the Colorado Trail 00:35:08 - What is it about thru-hiking that you love? 00:37:45 - Have you hit a fork in the road feeling about thru-hiking? 00:41:10 - If you had to settle somewhere, where would you choose? 00:45:15 - What's the brief overview of the Tour du Mont Blanc? 00:47:15 - Why do people hike counter clockwise? 00:51:20 - Discussion about lodging and towns along the TMB 00:53:00 - Are there places along the trail where you could stay a few days? 00:55:10 - Discussion about guiding services on the TMB 00:56:51 - What time of year would you recommend? 01:00:30 - What changes in items did you carry? 01:01:45 - When did you know you wanted to hike the CDT too? 01:05:22 - Discussion about hiking the AT third 01:08:40 - How do you handle people fangirling around you? 01:11:02 - What's been the highlight of the AT for you so far? 01:12:05 - What's the most embarrassing thing that's happened to you while hiking? 01:14:05 - What's the scariest thing that's happened to you while hiking? 01:18:00 - Do you have any advice for solo female backpackers? 01:22:25 - What's your biggest beginner blunder? 01:24:44 - What do your resupplies look like these days? 01:30:00 - What shoes are you using? 01:33:30 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance enhancing or backpacking hack? 01:35:25 - Reminders: Take our survey! Listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon and apply to blog for the Trek! Segments Trek Propaganda:  47 Years Later, the CDT Still Isn't Complete — New Legislation in Congress Aims To Change That by Katie Jackson This Section of the PCT Has Been Closed for 20 Years. The Reason? MYLFs by Kelsey Nannini QOTD:  If you had to give a TED Talk on something you're not a real expert on—but could fake it—what topic would you choose? Triple Crown of words you'll never pronounce correctly Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Sign up for the Trek's newsletter Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Lauren F, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.

Kate Pallardy joins the Free Outside Podcast to talk about longevity in ultrarunning, balancing motherhood with elite racing, and how her mindset has evolved over the years. From 100-mile podiums to navigating the chaos of parenting and training, Kate shares how she's learned to stay present, resilient, and grounded—even when everything feels out of control.We dive into:-The reality of training with toddlers and unpredictability-How mindset work and self-awareness changed her racing-What she learned from big DNFs—and big wins-Recovery, sleep, and why less can be more-And her unique approach to nutrition and fuelingThis one's honest, inspiring, and packed with hard-earned wisdom from one of the most thoughtful voices in the sport.Follow Kate online: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katepallardyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuOTtH5LZojo8uZ-hmuosCgSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutsideChapters00:00 Introduction to Kate Palardy03:05 The Unique Challenge of 100-Mile Races05:54 Pacing and Shared Experiences in Ultra Running08:56 Transitioning from Triathlons to Ultra Running11:51 The Joy of Simplicity in Ultra Running15:00 Training Differences: Marathons vs. 100-Mile Races17:56 Life Hacks for Running with Kids20:54 How Family Life Influences Training23:57 The Journey to Becoming a Pro Triathlete27:02 The Process of Earning a Pro Card33:40 The Evolution of Triathlon35:02 Rediscovering the Joy of Racing36:57 Family Dynamics and Racing40:22 Balancing Family and Athletic Goals43:33 The Journey of Motherhood and Running51:06 A Life-Changing 27-Mile Run59:34 Finding Purpose in Running

This week host Ace McKay, checks in with the “Catholic Conversation” Fr. John Nepil joins Steve and Becky to explore how to connect with God, with nature and each other. His book is To Height Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail. Also, “Adventures in Imperfect Living” reflects on why it's a great time to be Catholic.

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I share my full game plan for 2025—including how I'm building from Cocodona 250 to the Appalachian Trail self-supported FKT attempt this August. I break down how I'm training, recovering, testing gear, and optimizing logistics for what could be a once-in-a-lifetime record shot.We cover:-How Cocodona fits into my 2025 plan-Why I'm racing Bighorn 100 as an FKT-style training run-Nutrition experiments and how I'm training my gut for endurance-Gear strategy: headlamps, socks, resupply boxes, portable charging-My flexible (but spreadsheet-heavy) approach to planning FKTs-The impact of trail damage from hurricanes and federal cuts to trail crews-And why I think “just eat more” is still the most revolutionary ultra strategy out there-This is a behind-the-scenes look at what it actually takes to prep for a 2,000+ mile FKT. Plus, I shout out a few sponsors that help make it all possible and give a sneak peek of a secret June project.

Fr. John set out on a month long adventure to walk the Colorado Trail. He share his insight from the journey in his new book, "To Heights and Unto Depths."Subscribe to the Morning Blend on your favorite podcast platform.Find this show on the free Hail Mary Media App, along with a radio live-stream, prayers, news, and more.Look through past episodes or support this podcast.The Morning Blend is a production of Mater Dei Radio in Portland, Oregon.

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by Allison Powell, who turned her Cocodona 250 into a full-blown cinematic universe—with costumes, movie soundtracks, and a race plan inspired by Galaxy Quest, Dune, Game of Thrones, Mad Max, Star Wars, and Doctor Who. But when hail, hypothermia, and mud rivers entered the plot, the script changed fast.We dive into Allison's brilliant and brutal journey through sleep-deprivation, pacer therapy sessions, medical alerts, and the art of holding hands on trail. This is one of the most insightful, entertaining, and emotionally raw Cocodona 250 recaps out there. Whether you're chasing 250 miles or just curious how a Dune mindset breaks down in a thunderstorm, this one's a wild ride.We talk about:-How movie themes shaped her race mindset-The sleep deprivation spiral and when it became dangerous-Her learning curve with layering, eating, and letting go of rigid plans-The power of responsive crew support-Why she's going back for more—and doing it for public landsFollow Alison's writing: AllisonHardingPowell.substack.comSupport her Runners for Public Lands fundraiser for 2026 Cocodona!Follow Allison on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allisonhpowellSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutsideChapters00:00 Race Planning and Themes01:05 The Race Begins: Galaxy Quest and Dune03:47 Crown King and the Importance of Mindset06:28 Game of Thrones: Nighttime Challenges09:38 Mingus Mountain: The Struggles of Sleep Deprivation12:19 Jerome and the Quest for Rest15:00 Sedona: The Turning Point18:03 The Final Stretch: Overcoming Obstacles27:05 The Struggles of the Hangover Trail30:15 Facing Exhaustion and Frustration33:27 Medical Concerns and Hypothermia36:35 The Importance of Sleep in Ultra Running41:33 Lessons Learned from the Race44:33 The Final Push to the Finish Line48:06 Reflections and Future Plans

Welcome to Trail TMZ, the spicy trail running news breakdown you didn't know you needed. I'm Jeff Garmire, and this week I dive into the carnage at Western States—Jim Walmsley and Hayden Hawks are out, and so is the “Unbreakable 2” film project (yes, really). I give my unfiltered take on why that matters, how storytelling in our sport is being fumbled, and why it's time for trail films to embrace the chaos instead of bailing when stars drop.Then, things heat up with Camille Herron's cryptic Instagram post—where she dubs herself a sports whistleblower. What's the truth? What's hearsay? I break it down and talk about the real harm of social media call-outs in a sport that needs clarity more than confusion.Next up, we've got controversy at Black Canyon 100K involving Aravaipa Running, unauthorized aid, course-cutting, and a 20-minute penalty that turned into a full DQ. Is it a conflict of interest if a team athlete breaks the rules? I was there filming and have thoughts.And finally, we talk about how college athletics might implode thanks to SEC Football drama—and what that means for the future of running programs and the next generation of trail and ultra athletes.This episode has drama, nuance, hot takes, and just enough sarcasm to get me in trouble again.Chapters00:00 Western States Controversies and Unbreakable 204:16 Camille Herron: The Sports Whistleblower10:01 Aravaipa Running: Cheating Allegations and Controversy15:24 The Future of College Sports and Its Impact on RunningSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Fr. John Nepil joins Steve and Becky to explore how to connect with God, with nature and each other. His book is To Height Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail.

Fr. John Nepil, priest and mountaineer, joins the podcast to discuss his book To Heights and Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail. Topics discussed include: The modern view of "nature" vs. God's creation A morally responsible approach to risk-taking The modern origins of hiking as a secular activity "Wilderness" vs. "garden" - Catholic attitudes toward the wild places To Heights and Unto Depths https://ignatius.com/to-heights-and-unto-depths-thudp/ DONATE to make this show possible! http://catholicculture.org/donate/audio SIGN UP for Catholic Culture's newsletter: https://www.catholicculture.org/newsletters

5/27/25 - We're joined by Fr. John Nepil, priest, theologian, and mountaineer, as he reflects on his new book To Heights and unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail. Written during a 486-mile pilgrimage through the Colorado Rockies with fellow priests and Catholic young adults, the book offers a profound spiritual meditation on nature, suffering, and divine encounter. Fr. Nepil draws deeply from the Catholic intellectual tradition, especially the insights of Luigi Giussani, Dietrich von Hildebrand, and Hans Urs von Balthasar, to explore how the wilderness becomes a school of the Incarnation where God speaks through the silence of creation. Purchase the book at https://ignatius.com/to-heights-and-unto-depths-thudp/

I sit down with Coree Woltering—pro athlete for Merrell, Janji, and Smartwool—for a raw and hilarious conversation about his redemption at the Cocodona 250. From being the very first person to drop out of the inaugural race to finishing it five years later, Coree shares the highs, lows, and muddy middle miles of his journey.We talk about impromptu race entries (Venmoed Southern States 200), wild hallucinations, ankle weirdness, and what happens when your crew gets stranded with a flat tire halfway through a 250-mile race. Coree also opens up about finding joy in ultra-distance running, managing a team for Merrell, and his ambitious upcoming plans—including an Appalachian Trail FKT attempt and maybe even Moab 240.Follow Coree online: https://www.instagram.com/coreewolteringChapters00:00 Corey Woltering's Journey Begins02:45 Redemption at Cocodona06:01 Lessons from Southern States08:52 The Start of Cocodona 202312:07 Navigating Challenges and Embracing Adventure15:05 The Pacer Experience18:01 Unexpected Setbacks21:08 The Descent into Jerome24:09 The Hangover Trail Experience34:40 The Journey of Social Media in Ultra Running37:37 Experiencing the Highs and Lows of Endurance Racing39:29 The Breakdown: Mental and Physical Challenges42:44 Crew Dynamics and Support in Ultra Events45:37 Navigating the Final Stretch: The Last Marathon49:41 The Finish Line Experience: Quiet Triumphs53:47 Reflections on Future Races and Goals56:38 The Evolution of an Ultra Runner: From Triathlons to Ultra Events01:00:36 Athlete Management: Bridging Experience and Brand NeedsShop at our sponsors: Janji.com, garagegrowngear.com, and csinstant.coffeeSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Today's episode starts off with something I might just turn into a regular segment: Trail TMZ. We dig into the controversy surrounding William Goodge's run across Australia and the data that has people wondering—from heart rate anomalies to 55 mph GPS spikes. Then we take a brief detour into the Camille Herron Wikipedia saga and my lingering sadness that she never came on the show.But the real highlight is a deep conversation with Aaron Fleisher, a fellow five-time Cocodona 250 finisher. We talk about his journey from stage racing and thru-hiking into the world of 200s, and how he found success (and beer) on trail. We get into hallucination stories, racing strategies, sleep theories, and the evolution of Cocodona over the past five years. Plus, Aaron breaks down his experience at Tour de Géants and what it's like to compete in a race that makes U.S. ultras look like casual jogs.We wrap up with some trail name lore (“Food Boobs,” and "Loophole") and ponder how Cocodona became the most community-embraced ultra in the U.S. Oh, and yes—there might be a bumper sticker involved that says "Cocodona sucks, tell your friends."Follow Aaron online: https://www.instagram.com/mittenmadness/Follow and shop at out sponsors: Janji.com, Garagegrowngear.com, and Csinstant.coffeeChapters00:00 – Trail TMZ: Goodge, Cockrell & the Controversy03:30 – Camille Herron, Wikipedia & Podcast Rejections06:00 – Introducing Aaron Fleisher & Cocodona Beginnings10:00 – Beer, Sandals & Surviving the Inaugural Year14:00 – Sleep, Strategy & Hallucinations at 200 Milers19:00 – Through-Hiking Mentality in Ultras23:00 – Tour des Géants: Europe's Wildest Ultra28:00 – Cultural Clash & Why Tour Felt Life-Changing32:00 – Cocodona's Future & Becoming a Community Race36:00 – Trail Names, Reflections & Last Person StandingSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutsideKeywordsCocodona 250, ultrarunning, trail running, 200 mile race, Jeff Garmire, Aaron Fleisher, Free Outside Podcast, thru hiking, Tour des Geants, Tour de Glaciers, ultramarathon, trail TMZ, William Gooch, running across Australia, watchmuling, heart rate zone, hallucinations ultrarunning, beer mile, food boobs, trail names, Aravaipa Running, Cocodona recap, trail race strategy, sleep in ultras, ultra running controversy, elite trail running, long distance running, through hiker mindset, adventure racing, Grand to Grand, 200 milers, ultra endurance, running gossip

I sit down with Kevin Russ—board game designer, iPhone photography legend, thru hiker, and freshly minted Cocodona 250 finisher. We dive into Kevin's wild journey from shooting landscapes with just his phone to creating successful board games, and now, tackling 200+ mile races. He opens up about the physical and mental toll of Cocodona, the moments that tested him most, and the role his crew played in getting him to the finish. We also explore how creativity overlaps with endurance and what's next for Kevin in both ultra running and game design.Check out Kevin on the internet: Website: https://www.kevinruss.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinruss/Check out his board Game: https://amzn.to/3ZpJ0HTSupport our sponsors:Janji.comGaragegrowngear.comCsinstant.coffee00:00 The Rise of an iPhone Photographer04:03 From Photography to Through Hiking06:26 Transitioning to Ultra Running09:19 Preparing for Cocodona 25012:05 Training Challenges and the Chipotle Challenge14:45 Cocodona 250: The Race Begins17:26 Weather Challenges and Mindset Shifts20:23 The Role of Crew and Support22:53 Capturing the Journey on Camera24:14 Navigating Sleep Deprivation26:57 Injuries and Mental Resilience29:18 The Role of Pacers and Crew Support30:27 Facing Challenges in the Final Stretch35:18 Reflections on the Race Experience37:14 Future Plans and Training Insights39:46 Hallucinations and the Nature of Endurance41:09 Underrated Natural Beauty in the U.S.43:04 The Journey into Board Game Design45:48 Launching a Board Game48:28 The Board Game Convention ExperienceSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Today we have one of the most inspiring runners I know—Jennie Chisholm. She's a mom of four boys, a Triple Crowner, and a two-time Cocodona 250 finisher. But she didn't find ultrarunning the usual way. She stumbled into it—literally—on a whim while thru-hiking the Arizona Trail.She tells the incredible story of how her family went from watching Cocodona as curious hikers to toeing the start line with hand-me-down running vests and brand-new shoes. We talk about how her sons became ultrarunners, what it's like racing 250 miles while constantly worrying about your kids (who are also racing), and the chaos of coordinating multiple crews and pacers as a full-on family affair.She shares the highs and heartbreaking lows from this year's Cocodona—dealing with sickness, hypothermia, and emotional breakdowns on the trail, all while pushing through to the finish herself. We also dive into training, nutrition (or the lack thereof), trail names, and how thru-hiking helped shape her kids into some of the toughest young runners in the sport.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Jenny Chisholm's Journey03:10 The Accidental Entry into Cocodona05:59 Family Dynamics in Ultra Running09:06 Logistics of Racing as a Family11:52 Challenges Faced During the Race15:05 The Emotional Toll of DNFing17:56 Finding Focus Amidst Chaos21:00 The Role of Family Support23:52 Reflections on the Race Experience39:33 The Emotional Roller Coaster of Racing48:12 Navigating Nutrition and Training Challenges55:02 Building Confidence Through Thru-Hiking01:01:08 The Future of Family Adventures01:09:31 Embracing the Journey and Lessons LearnedSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

This week, I scrapped the pre-recorded episode I had ready to go and decided to hit record and talk live—from the post-Cocodona haze. After five finishes at Cocodona 250, I figured it was time to finally answer the question: Should you sign up for Cocodona? I break down what it really takes to toe that start line, what happens in the mid-pack where most of us live for days on end, and why finishing should always mean more than your pace chart or Instagram recap.This year, things went sideways. COVID showed up early (for me and, unfortunately, my whole crew), and I had to go deep into my why just to keep moving. I talk about that, how my mindset has shifted, the myth of “self-supported” Cocodona, and how this race is more about soul-searching than splits.There's also some advice on how to register, a behind-the-scenes look at Golden Hour, a possibly meth-themed aid station (yep), and what keeps me coming back year after year. I also rant (gently) about influencer culture, read some of your reviews, and shout out my amazing crew, my favorite Janji gear, and the community that makes this wild desert dream possible.If you're on the fence about Cocodona, this is the episode for you. It's raw, it's real, and it's my fifth year of running straight into the unknown.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Cocodona 25002:53 The Mindset Behind Endurance Racing06:11 Strategies for Signing Up and Preparing08:52 The Reality of Support in Ultra Running12:09 The Adventure of Cocodona 25014:57 Golden Hour and the Emotional Finish17:47 Reflections on the Experience21:02 Closing Thoughts and EncouragementSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

In today's episode, I'm joined by Ms. Ellie Penner, an art historian whose work has taken her across the globe—from studying Himalayan art forms in Nepal and Ladakh to exploring ancient sculptures at Ajanta and Ellora, and observing masterpieces in the museums of the U.S. But beyond her deep love for centuries-old art, Ellie is an adventurer at heart. Raised in Colorado, she's an outdoors enthusiast who jumps at any chance to head into the mountains.And that's exactly what she did—on a 32-day, 483-milethru-hike on the breathtaking Colorado Trail, accompanied by two of her best friends. What followed was a trail full of stories: hitchhiking into nearby towns, camping under the stars, weathering hailstorms, naming each other with quirky trail nicknames, dodging wildlife, and pushing through sore,blistered feet—all while laughing nonstop.This episode is full of warmth, adventure, and some seriously hilarious moments. I don't consider myself a hiker, but after talking to Ellie, I found myself itching to plan a trip like this with my best friends. Come along for the ride—you'll laugh as much as I did.Tune in and get inspired—whether you're an art lover, anaspiring hiker, or just here for the wild stories.---------------------------------------------Follow Ellie on Instagram ---------------------------------------------To buy yourself a copy of the travel journal, click here: Travel Journal (currently shipping within India only)---------------------------------------------To support our team and donate generously, please click ⁠⁠⁠⁠SUPPORT ⁠⁠⁠⁠.Like our work? Follow, Like & Subscribe to our podcast from wherever you are listening in. We would also love to hear from you, so do write to us at:Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠misadventuresofasneaker@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@misadventuresofasneaker⁠⁠⁠⁠Blog: misadventuresofasneaker.substack.com-------------------------------------------------Episodes referred to in the episode:Episode on Spain: S02 Ep12

The crazy story of my fifth finish at Cocodona 250. This year was full of surprises — I ran with a sickness, hallucinated witches and aliens, battled rain, hail, and mud, and somehow kept going with the help of an incredible crew.I break down the highs and lows, from brain fog and rolled ankles to a bobcat sighting, and even the odd gear fix that saved the day (hint: Vagisil).If you're into ultrarunning, trail running, or just want to hear about pushing through 250 miles of chaos, this episode is full of stories, lessons, and plenty of humor.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Cocodona 250 Experience03:00 Race Day Preparations and Crew Dynamics05:51 The Struggles Begin: Weather and Physical Challenges09:10 Hallucinations and Mental Battles12:10 Navigating Through Adversity: The Role of Crew14:52 The Mid-Race Shift: Coping with Illness17:49 Finding Momentum: The Power of Music21:02 Celebrating Small Victories24:03 The Final Push: Overcoming the Last Hurdles26:56 The Finish Line: Reflections and RevelationsSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Tim Mason (out of Arkansas) lost his right eye in High School. But that hasn't kept him from pursuing his goals and dreams in life. He has backpacked part of the JMT and peaked 14'ers in Colorado, but his last big excursion was thru-hiking the Colorado Trail. He has documented many of these adventures in his new book, Losing Sight, Gaining Vision and we visit with Tim to get to get to know him better and gain background into his life and book.For more visit www.the-overland-podcast.comThank you for listening!

Join Fr. Edward as he interviews Fr. John Nepil from the Archdiocese of Denver about his new book To Heights and Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail. In this powerful conversation, they explore the deep spiritual lessons Fr. Nepil learned while hiking the 500-mile Colorado Trail—from mountain beauty and solitude to failure, fatherhood, and faith.

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I break down my full race plan for the 2025 Cocodona 250, the massive 250-mile ultra across Arizona. I walk you through how I'm approaching the unusually cold weather, the new technical course changes, and the long stretches without pacers. I explain why I'm planning to go out more aggressively this year, how I'm dialing in my carbs, salt, and hydration, and where I'll rely on my crew and pacers the most. I share my split predictions, the key sections I'm watching for, and some honest reflections on how far I've come as a runner and a podcaster. Whether you're following Cocodona or just curious about what it takes to line up for something this big, this episode gives you an inside look at my mindset and strategy heading into race week.Chapters00:00 Cocadona 250 Race Strategy03:09 Course Navigation and Aid Stations05:55 Pacing and Nutrition Strategy09:07 Self-Sufficiency and Crew Dynamics11:57 Reflections on Podcasting and GrowthSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

On today's episode of the Free Outside Show, I'm joined by runner, ultimate frisbee enthusiast, and Cocodona crewing expert Allison Mercer. We relive wild stories from the inaugural Cocodona 250 — from cactus naps and glass-covered descents to heckling runners mid-race. We talk predictions for this year's showdown, the “Courtney effect,” and whether European pros will shift the ultra scene. We debate mind games, pacing strategies, why volunteering matters, and why Cocodona is basically ultrarunning's March Madness. Follow Allison online: https://www.instagram.com/onewomandancepartyFollow our sponsors: Janji, Garage Grown Gear Chapters00:00 Introduction to Allison Mercer and Cocodona02:50 The Inaugural Cocodona Experience06:08 Crew Dynamics and Race Strategy08:46 The Evolution of Cocodona and Its Popularity11:59 The Role of Volunteers in Ultra Running14:58 Pacing and the Emotional Journey17:58 The Impact of Weather on Race Performance20:56 The Influence of Social Media and Celebrity Runners23:50 The Future of Cocodona and Its Competitors27:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts46:08 The Evolving Landscape of Ultra Running52:39 Courtney's Dominance and the Competitive Field56:58 Mindset and Strategy in Ultra Racing01:01:55 The Future of Cocodona and Race DynamicsSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

On this wild episode of the Free Outside Podcast, we talk with filmmaker Derrick Lytle and into everything Cocodona 250 — from race predictions and course changes to the strength-versus-speed debate heating up in the ultra scene. But first? We take on the internet's most absurd hypothetical: could 100 men beat a silverback gorilla? (Spoiler: probably not.) We trade predictions on Courtney Dauwalter, Ryan Sandes, Mike McKnight, and more while roasting obstacle racers, dissecting mud strategies, and dreaming up the ultimate post-race media blitz. Expect hot takes, cold-weather prep, and plenty of laughs in this pre-race breakdown of one of the most exciting 200-milers of the year.Check out Derrick's Youtube Channel: @TheJuniperLab Chapters00:00 Introduction and Light Banter03:00 The Gorilla Debate: Humans vs. Nature06:01 Cocodona 250: Anticipation and Excitement08:53 The Impact of the Courtney Effect12:03 Women in Ultra Running: Breaking Barriers15:07 Course Changes and Challenges in Cocodona18:01 Weather and Its Influence on Performance21:01 The Evolution of Ultra Running Competitors23:57 CrossFit vs. High Rocks: A Lighthearted Comparison25:25 Transitioning from CrossFit to Endurance Sports26:26 Mike McKnight's Preparation for Cocodona29:11 The Debate on Strength Training for Runners30:25 DJ Fox: The Obstacle Course Racer's Edge31:47 Predictions for Cocodona 25033:27 Weather and Logistics Impacting Race Performance35:51 The Competitive Landscape of Cocodona 25038:10 Emerging Athletes and Dark Horses40:06 Nutrition Strategies for Ultra Runners42:23 Broadcasting Challenges at Cocodona 250Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

On today's episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by outdoor filmmaker Drew Darby, and we cover everything from his unexpected start filming inside prisons to becoming one of the most exciting filmmakers in ultrarunning. We dive into how working in sensitive environments shaped his storytelling, the chaos (and comedy) of filming 100-mile races, and why long-form content is making a comeback. Drew shares his thoughts on building a career in the outdoor film industry, what it's like to turn passion into a full-time job, and the importance of telling deeper stories beyond the race results. Plus, we brainstorm a "Media Mile" race, swapping cameras instead of trophies. It's an episode packed with filmmaking mishaps, creative advice, and a whole lot of laughs.Follow Drew Darby online: https://www.instagram.com/drewbdarbyChapters00:00 From Prisons to Filmmaking: Drew's Unique Journey04:35 The Intersection of Politics and Filmmaking09:06 Short Form vs Long Form: The Filmmaker's Dilemma17:27 The Pressure of Timely Storytelling21:53 Navigating Brand Relationships in Filmmaking28:58 Transitioning to Ultra Sports Filmmaking38:35 Overcoming Physical Limitations39:30 Transitioning to Freelance Filmmaking42:12 Navigating Brand Collaborations44:09 Life Beyond Filmmaking47:18 The Challenges of Travel49:26 Filmmaker Nightmare Stories53:39 Advice for Aspiring Filmmakers01:01:25 The Importance of Storytelling in FilmmakingSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Tate Dobson, known on trail as Pyro. Tate is a certified wildcard. It's not just that he's hiked the PCT, AT, Long Trail, and Te Araroa, but how he's done it, including hiking the Appalachian Trail and Long Trail spending $1,000 (alongside Quadzilla), hiking long stretches with carrying a Jansport pack, another stretch using tote bag, hiking the R2R2R eating only Motts Fruit snacks and the 100-Mile Wilderness consuming only maple syrup and a jar of peanut butter. He's run a pair of ultramarathons around a roundabout, he's run a beer mile with his mom, and has accomplished another mile consuming four shots of tequila and a tube of toothpaste. In other words, strap in.  We wrap the show with some bucket list hikes you can do over a long weekend, the triple crown of stuipd word spellings, a listener poop story, and more. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. 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[divider] Interview with Tate “Pyro” Dobson Tate's Instagram Tate's Trek page Time stamps & Questions 00:06:34 - Reminders: Check out The Trek and Backpacker Radio on Youtube, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon, and apply to blog for the Trek! 00:9:40 - Introducing Tate 00:11:40 - How do Chaunce and Tate know each other? 00:14:20 - How did you get into the outdoors? 00:15:11 - What trajectory led to dropping out of high school and college and how did you start thru-hiking? 00:18:25 - Tell us about your 2019 PCT hike? 00:20:55 - What's your perspective on continuous footpaths? 00:22:53 - Where was your head at when you got off the PCT? 00:24:03 - When did you next get on trail? 00:25:37 - Are you a known figure in Durango? 00:28:00 - How did you get on the Colorado Trail? 00:31:22 - Any standout stories from the Colorado Trail? 00:31:51 - Do you have any poop stories? 00:35:40 - How was the Sierra High Route? 00:42:00 - Tell us about the PCT in 2022 00:44:45 - When did things start to get weird? 00:53:15 - Did you hike the whole trail in sandals? 00:54:20 - What other weird things did you do on the PCT? 00:56:10 - Where did you get your marathon idea? 00:59:40 - Did you feel any asymmetric pain afterwards? 01:01:07 - Tell us about your beer mile 01:02:50 - What is the toothpaste and tequila mile? 01:05:45 - Did you see any interesting people during the roundabout run? 01:07:45 - Tell us about your other impractical backpacks 01:11:40 - Tell us about your TA hike 01:18:07 - What's your favorite mom story? 01:19:27 - How'd you clean off the mud? 01:22:50 - How do you keep losing toothbrushes? 01:24:36 - Tell us about starting the AT last year 01:26:35 - What was the budget challenge you did? 01:28:30 - What tips do you have for hiking on a budget? 01:33:24 - What'd you do while Quadzilla was in the hospital? 01:34:30 - What's the craziest story from the AT? 01:39:30 - When did you stop carrying the tote bag? 01:42:05 - Any fun stories from the Long Trail? 01:48:20 - Tell us about the Rim to Rim to Rim 01:51:40 - What plans do you have for the CDT? 01:53:20 - Stay Salty Question: What's your hottest take in the world of backpacking? 01:54:55 - What's your dream sponsor? 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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we're joined by Maytal Agasi, known on trail as Carrot Top. In this episode, we learn how a road trip in a mid-size SUV with her two brothers sparked Carrot Top's entry into the world of thru-hiking. She shares how she benefitted massively from both solo and group thru-hikes.  We chat about her time on the JMT, Colorado Trail, and PCT, and we take a deeper dive into her most recent trek on the Camino de Costa Rica, covering standout cultural elements, landscape highlights, the incredibly muggy weather, rich wildlife (including venomous snakes and sloths), managing language barriers, unique logistical challenges, and more. A quick note: I made a big time dumb guy mistake. About 30 minutes into the interview, I realized our audio recorder wasn't rolling. The first 36 minutes of the interview have lower audio quality than usual. That portion still offers important context about Maytal's journey into the outdoors, but if it's too distracting, the audio quality improves at the 36-minute mark of the interview. Trigger warning: This interview includes discussion of suicide. If this is a sensitive topic for you, we recommend skipping ahead to the point where the audio improves—again 36 minutes into the interview. We wrap the show with another clue about our super secret special guest for the upcoming live podcast in Austin, what ridiculous outfit we'd hike in forever, the Triple Crown of Colorado stereotypes, and a disturbing story of an international hiker who was detained, deported, and banned from the U.S. on her way to hike the Arizona Trail. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKWINTER15” at topoathletic.com. Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  Vaer Watches: Check out Vaer Watches at vaerwatches.com. AG1: Get your free $79 gift at drinkag1.com/backpacker. [divider] Interview with Maytal “Carrottop” Agasi Maytal's Instagram Camino de Costa Rica Time stamps & Questions 00:06:10 - Reminders: Sign up for the Trek's newsletter, join us for our live show in Austin, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon, and apply to blog for the Trek! 00:10:00 - Audio note 00:12:10 - Introducing Maytal 00:15:30 - How did you get your trail name? 00:16:05 - What does a garden educator do? 00:17:24 - What is the best plant? 00:19:40 - How did you get into hiking? 00:21:23 - Why don't you fight with your siblings? 00:24:00 - Discussion about Maytal's roadtrip 00:25:23 - Are your parents hippie-adjacent? 00:27:08 - What's your favorite on-trail meal to make? 00:30:50 - Do you taste the meals before dehydrating them? 00:32:44 - How did you decide to hike the JMT? 00:34:10 - What happened to your dad? 00:38:30 - How do you process things as well as enjoy the trail while hiking? 00:40:50 - Was it intimidating to hike mostly solo on your first hike? 00:46:17 - Are there any fats that are safe to dehydrate? 00:46:55 - Did you know right away you wanted to do more hikes? 00:49:45 - Have you butt heads with anyone on trail? 00:52:00 - How did you get your gear dialed in for the JMT? 00:55:00 - Discussion about stool sample tests 00:57:45 - Were you happy to hike the CT with a friend or did you ever want space? 01:00:50 - What did you like about Salida? 01:03:03 - When did you decide to hike the PCT? 01:05:30 - Tell us about almost falling off a mountain 01:10:35 - What was it like to go through the Sierra twice? 01:12:45 - How did you learn about the Camino de Costa Rica? 01:15:57 - Are guides required? 01:16:50 - How long is the trail and what is the mileage like each day? 01:20:30 - Do you pay the host families? 01:23:40 - How did you communicate that you were vegetarian? 01:24:50 - Did you have cell service? 01:26:00 - Do you know how many people have hiked this trail? 01:28:30 - What was the weather like? 01:30:25 - What were the landscape highlights of the trail? 01:38:00 - Discussion about wildlife 01:41:05 - Were there other opportunities to eat in town? 01:42:12 - What are the biggest cultural differences? 01:45:55 - What would you like to relay to the listeners of Backpacker Radio? 01:47:38 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda 20 Trek Bloggers You Should Be Following in 2025 by Jess A German Thru-Hiker Has Been Detained, Deported, and Banned From the US Without a Hearing: Here's What You Need To Know by Caitlin Hardee QOTD:  If you could only hike in one ridiculous outfit for the rest of your life, what would it be? Triple Crown of Colorado stereotypes Thing of the Week Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Sign up for the Trek's newsletter Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Eathan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Alsop, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I talk with Connor “Jackrabbit” Chapdelaine, who's attempting the Calendar Year Triple Crown—thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Continental Divide Trail all in a single year. We break down how the idea got planted during a hike on the AT, what it takes to train for 8,000 miles, and why he's bringing a pillow, a stove, and maybe even a thermos.Follow Connor/Jackrabbit online: https://www.instagram.com/JackrabbitHikes/Connor shares his strategy for navigating snow in the Sierra, reroutes on the PCT, and fires on the CDT—plus his plan to survive town stops without spending his entire budget. We also get into ultralight gear hacks, and his favorite trail meals. Connor breaks down his food tier list (spoiler: mushroom Knorr = trail exile) and how his dad is helping run the back-end logistics with a label maker and full “dad command center.”Support us by supporting our sponsors: CS Coffee: https://www.csinstant.coffee/Janji: https://janji.com/Garage Grown Gear: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/If you've ever been curious about the logistics, gear, food, and mindset needed to thru-hike the PCT, CDT, and AT in one year, this episode is packed with real insight and ridiculous stories—including tuna and peanut butter wraps, dry-scooped coffee, and a thru-hiker potluck that no one asked for.Chapters04:00 The Aspiration of the Calendar Year Triple Crown10:30 Overcoming Obstacles in the Journey13:51 Planning and Timing for Success19:25 Budgeting for the Adventure24:20 Family Support and Logistics25:12 Training for High Mileage31:29 Food Choices on the Trail37:58 The Quirks of Trail Humor38:51 Trail Food Favorites and Disasters40:56 Resupply Strategies and Bargain Finds41:59 The Art of Coffee on the Trail43:46 The Triple Crown Experience45:38 Friendships Formed on the Trail47:59 The Emotional Connection to Hiking50:04 Gear Essentials for Long Trails56:14 The Importance of Comfort Items59:34 Post-Hike Plans and Future Goals01:05:15 Memorable Trail Names and Their StoriesSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Many feel God's presence while spending time outdoors, and Father Dave welcomes Father John Nepil to discuss his faith connection to hiking the Colorado Trail. Father John is an avid hiker and mountaineer, and he has celebrated Mass atop all 54 of Colorado's highest peaks. His new book is called “To Heights and Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail.”

We're live with Deacon Frank, permanent deacon in the US and involved in the Eucharistic Revival dives into the truth about Mary's Perpetual Virginity, Jaclyn Warren and Joseph Ruli, Catholic author and illustrator, talk about the book "Giovanni and the Fava Beans: The Story of the St. Joseph's Altar" and Fr. John Nepil, priest in the Archdiocese of Denver, talks about the book "To Height and Unto Depths Letters from the Colorado Trail".

In this episode of the Gotta Be Saints podcast, I sit down with Fr. John Nepil to explore the profound spiritual lessons that come from journeying through the wilderness—literally and figuratively. A priest of the Archdiocese of Denver and member of the Companions of Christ, Fr. John shares stories from his 486-mile trek along the Colorado Trail and the reflections that led to his new book, To the Heights and Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail.We talk about how pilgrimage shapes our understanding of faith, the beauty of silence and solitude, and how adventure in the outdoors can act as a powerful metaphor for the interior life. Fr. John explains why the wilderness is a privileged space for Catholic formation and how community, challenge, and even suffering are vital to encountering Christ in a deeper way.Whether you're an outdoor enthusiast, someone feeling spiritually restless, or just curious about the intersection of nature, faith, and discipline, this conversation will inspire you to consider the road less traveled—especially during this Lenten season.Topics Covered:How pilgrimage cultivates hope and detachmentWhy the mountains offer a unique setting for formationThe spiritual importance of silence, stillness, and solitudeNavigating the tension between comfort and sacrificeBuilding authentic community on the journey to holiness

Send us a textIn this episode we talk with Tara Dower about:Nutrition before, during and post FKTs vs UltramarathonsHow working with a nutritionist can take the guesswork out of race prepTara Dower is a professional ultrarunner, who you probably also know for crushing the overall FKT on the Appalachian Trail in late 2024. Next up for Tara in 2025 is the iconic Western States 100 as a result of her Golden Ticket 2nd place performance at Black Canyon 100k. Tara also recently signed a record-breaking deal with Altra, a stunning example of her incredible rise in the sport. Tara has an incredible list of results and accolades, and says her favorite distance to tackle is the 100 miler, because it presents so many possibilities for adventure, but she's no stranger to setting FKTs, with records on the Mountains-to-Sea Trail, Benton MacKaye Trail and the Colorado Trail. Please note that this podcast is created strictly for educational purposes and should never be used for medical diagnosis and treatment.Connect w/ Tara: IG: instagram.com/tara.dowerYouTube: youtube.com/@taratreksDNF Diaries: audacy.com/podcast/dnf-diaries-06c3a/episodesMentioned:First Endurance Ultragen: amzn.to/3DSSmV9Injinji Socks: amzn.to/420h6CKSaltStick: amzn.to/3Fyi55GPH Salt Capsules: amzn.to/42103ACSIS Gels: amzn.to/42d1ihnSIS BetaFuel Chews: amzn.to/42edvCvMaurten BiCarb: Shop The Feed Tara's Favorite Gear from the AT FKT: youtube.com/watch?v=cX_67jICdfkMore about caffeine:Episode 101 w/ Dr. Bryan Saunders: Caffeine, Genetics & Athletic Performance: nutritional-revolution.com/podcasts/caffeine-supplementation-exercise-performance-genetics/Can Caffeine Help Sleep Deprived Runners? nutritional-revolution.com/can-caffeine-help-sleep-deprived-runners/Does Caffeine Improve Performance? nutritional-revolution.com/does-caffeine-really-improve-performance/MORE NR New customers save 10% off all products on our website with the code NEWPOD10 If you would like to work with our practitioners, click here: https://nutritional-revolution.com/work-with-us/ Save 20% on all supplements at our trusted online source: https://us.fullscript.com/welcome/kchannell Join Nutritional Revolution's The Feed Club to get $20 off right away with an additional $20 Feed credit drop every 90 days.: https://thefeed.com/teams/nutritional-revolution If you're interested in sponsoring Nutritional Revolution Podcast, shoot us an email at nutritionalrev@gmail.com.

In this episode of Ultra Buds Unleashed from the Trail Life podcast, guest host Izzy B interviews Chris Raupp, a U.S. Army veteran and founder of the Warrior Trail Foundation. Chris shares his inspiring journey from discovering ultra running in his early 50s to completing some of the toughest 200-mile races. Chris discusses the mission of the Warrior Trail Foundation, which provides recreational therapy, coaching, and mental health services for veterans and their families. The conversation covers how trail running has been transformative for Chris and others dealing with PTSD, MST, and physical disabilities, offering a new sense of purpose and community. Chris also recounts the experience of supporting elite runner Jeff Browning's FKT on the Colorado Trail as a fundraiser for the foundation and outlines upcoming events and ways people can support the cause.Instragram: @warriortrailfoundationWebsite: Warrior Trail Foundation00:00 Introduction to Ultra Buds Unleashed01:29 Chris Raupp's Journey into Ultra Running08:46 The Birth of the Warrior Trail Foundation15:48 Challenges and Growth of the Foundation20:04 Jeff Browning's Colorado Trail FKT25:42 Reflecting on an Unforgettable Week26:08 Behind the Scenes: Social Media and Teamwork26:46 Scott Jurek's Surprising Snack27:47 The Power of Community Support28:41 Announcing the Foundation's Mission30:02 Expanding Coaching Programs32:25 Challenges Faced by Veterans34:52 The Wander Project Partnership36:34 Upcoming Fundraising Events43:45 Race Schedule and Veteran Participation47:24 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J. is back for his weekly segment with Teresa, “Cultural Connection.” Fr. John Nepil is the author of “To Heights and Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail.”

This episode is pure storytelling chaos. I sat down with Joe "Stringbean" McConaughy, and we covered everything from FKTs gone wrong to ultra running hallucinations and how his dog literally ate his golden ticket. We relive our worst gear failures, talk about what it really takes to push through a 200-miler, and debate whether burping is the key to ultra success (yes, seriously). Joe shares his journey from setting the Pacific Crest Trail record to coaching and racing at the highest level, and we swap war stories about the Arizona Trail, John Muir Trail, and why we both seem to choose the absolute worst conditions for FKTs. If you're into absurd ultra running tales, bad decisions, and lessons learned the hard way, this one's for you.This episode is brought to you by: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/https://janji.com/So tell them I sent you! Follow Joe online: https://www.instagram.com/thestring.bean/And my sister's knitting account: https://www.instagram.com/knitted.with.grace/TakeawaysJoe is not a vegan athlete, despite misconceptions.He emphasizes the importance of a well-rounded diet.His first FKT experience was filled with overconfidence.Trusting technology can lead to unexpected challenges.Hallucinations can occur during extreme endurance events.Mental challenges are as significant as physical ones.The John Muir Trail inspired Joe to pursue FKTs.Caffeine and sleep management are crucial for performance.Hallucinations can lead to dangerous situations.The psychological aspect of running is multifaceted. Survival situations often involve extreme conditions and mental challenges.Gear failures can significantly impact performance in ultra running.It's important to invest in reliable gear for long-distance events.Coaching requires continuous learning and adaptation to athletes' needs.Sleep strategies are crucial for endurance races, but they vary by individual.Being selfish in races can enhance performance and personal experience.Self-supported racing fosters independence and self-reliance.The journey into coaching can be both rewarding and challenging.Understanding one's body and its responses is key to successful racing.The golden ticket symbolizes achievement but comes with its own challenges.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Veganism and Misconceptions03:05 First FKT Experiences and Overcoming Fears05:54 Challenges on the Arizona Trail08:58 The John Muir Trail: Inspiration and Aspirations11:55 Experiences on Mount Whitney14:56 Hallucinations and Mental Challenges in Ultra Running18:10 The Psychological Aspects of Endurance Running23:49 Survival and Extreme Conditions25:37 Lessons from Gear Failures28:32 The Burping Dilemma31:57 The Journey into Coaching36:27 Navigating Sleep Strategies39:30 The Importance of Selfishness in Racing43:25 Golden Ticket TalesSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Join Fr. John and Fr. Sean for the final episode of their podcast series on Fr. John's new book, To Heights and Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail. In this episode, they delve into several chapters of the book, touching on manhood and Mary's fiat.

Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J. is back for his weekly segment with Teresa, “Cultural Connection.” Fr. John Nepil is the author of “To Heights and Unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail.”

In this episode, Fr. John and Fr. Sean revisit Fr. John's transformative experience along the Colorado Trail. Fr. John shares how his encounter with creation opened a deeper connection to God, allowing him to more fully participate in God's being.

This week Mother Natalia reflects on her recent poustinia, where the Lord placed the idea of rest on her heart. She talks about the ways she can rest in her monastic life allowing God to take charge in her life. She talks about how we are all called to rest, despite labor also being important to the rest of our lives. Mother Natalia also talks about the importance of recognizing beauty in the world, and how that beauty reflects back to God.References:Fire of Mercy, Heart of the Word: Meditations on the Gospel According to St. Matthew by Erasmo Leiva-Merikakis To Heights and unto Depths: Letters from the Colorado Trail by Fr. John NepilPilgrimage:We're going on pilgrimage! You can find all the details including dates, itinerary, and cost at the 206tours website. Want to hear this directly from Fr. Michael and Mother Natalia? Check out our announcement video.Follow and Contact Us!Follow us on Instagram and FacebookWe're on YouTube!Join our Goodreads GroupFr. Michael's TwitterChrist the Bridegroom MonasteryOur WebsiteOur NonprofitSend us a textSupport the show

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Demetri Coupounas, aka Coup, the founder of GoLite and MyTrail Company. Coup might just be the most interesting man in the world. This conversation takes us through his incredible journey, from his work balancing the federal budget in the '80s and '90s to becoming the first person to complete unsupported hikes of the Colorado Trail and the Long Trail, and how he stumbled upon the once underground world of ultralight backpacking.  We also dive into the history of GoLite, from its role in popularizing Ray Jardine's ultralight designs to its meteoric rise with more than 20 retail stores nationwide—without taking any investor money—and its eventual downfall, leading to bankruptcy just a few years later. Coup shares the story of MyTrail Co, his follow-up venture, and how he applied the lessons learned from GoLite while stripping away what didn't work, and how that eventually failed to achieve launch.  This episode is an insightful history lesson on GoLite and the world of ultralight backpacking, as well as a fascinating case study on business successes and failures.  We wrap up the show with a new 2-ounce device that could replace your Garmin InReach, what we consider a satisfactory number of steps in a typical day, and the ultimate Triple Crown of best smells. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  [divider] Interview with Demetri “Coup” Coupounas Coup's Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:10:20 - Reminders: Join us for our live show in Austin, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon, and apply to vlog for the Trek! 00:12:40 - Introducing Coup 00:15:15 - What are your favorite backpacking Youtube channels? 00:16:25 - How did you get into politics? 00:28:10 - How fucked are we currently and what's your take on DOGE? 00:34:44 - How did you get into backpacking? 00:42:00 - How would you walk a first time hiker through packing their backpack? 00:51:22 - Do you think fun correlates directly with the weight on your back? 00:53:40 - Why did you take on unsupported hikes? 00:56:35 - Are you pursuing novel experiences or challenging experiences? 00:59:30 - How do you decide what food to bring? 01:05:20 - Tell us about the early days of GoLite 01:10:30 - Did you ever make your own gear? 01:12:02 - Did you have a personal relationship with Ray Jardine? 01:14:55 - Was Ray an owner in the business? 01:17:17 - What were the biggest initial sellers? 01:21:15 - How much effort was involved in convincing people to go lighter? 01:27:02 - What were the first 12 products? 01:38:15 - What did your typical customer look like? 01:46:00 - What was the process of scaling GoLite? 01:55:00 - Why didn't selling direct work well? 02:01:20 - What happened in 2013 and 2014? 02:10:00 - Why didn't you seek investors when money was running out? 02:17:00 - Discussion about the transition to My Trail Co 02:20:24 - What do you keep from the business when going through bankruptcy? 02:26:12 - What is My Trail Co and did you raise as much money as you expected? 02:30:02 - How many products did you offer? 02:32:31 - When did My Trail Co go out of business? 02:38:16 - Why didn't My Trail work? 02:42:45 - Did My Trail investors earn dividends? 02:45:00 - How much of the growth of the cottage industry was to blame? 02:53:07 - What are your plans for the future? 03:01:50 - Stay Salty Question: What is your hottest take in the backpacking world? Segments Trek Propaganda: Could This 2-Ounce Device Replace Your Garmin inReach? By Katie Jackson QOTD:  What is a satisfactory number of steps for your average day? Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Ben Love, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Mud Tom, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Bonnie Ackerman, Chris Pyle, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Katharine Rudzitis, Lauren Cain, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek and brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Sarah “Mellow” Berkeley, founder of Symbiosis Gear, a pack-making company designed specifically for people with boobs. Sarah shares insights into her unique upbringing in a small log cabin in rural Colorado, her adventures on the Long Trail, PCT, Colorado Trail, and half of the CDT, and her journey to creating a backpack tailored for primarily women. We dive into the inspiration behind her patented S-shaped shoulder strap, the challenges of starting a business with no prior industry experience, the help she's received from fellow members of the cottage industry, her plans for future expansion, and much more.  We wrap the show with the announcement of the 2025 Badger Sponsorship, news of a hiker found dead near Mt. Whitney, a debate on when poop officially starts to smell like poop, and the Triple Crown of middle-aged happiness. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKWINTER15” at topoathletic.com. Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  [divider] Interview with Sarah Berkeley New Symbiosis Gear Survey Symbiosis Gear on Instagram Symbiosis Gear Website Time stamps & Questions 00:05:15 - Reminders: Apply for the 2025 Badger Sponsorship, join us for our live show in Austin, apply to blog for the Trek, and listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon! 00:09:07 - Introducing Sarah 00:10:33 - What's your trail name origin story? 00:11:32 - Tell us about building a log cabin with your family 00:16:27 - How did you end up on the Long Trail? 00:17:50 - Did you bring any simple recipes from the wood stove to backpacking? 00:18:30 - Are you happy your parents created that experience for you? 00:20:30 - Was it psychologically easy for you to adjust to backpacking? 00:22:30 - What was the motivation to move to Leadville? 00:26:20 - Walk us through the early stages of getting into backpacking 00:29:35 - How did you manage the Long Trail with a dog? 00:31:45 - What caused you to stick with thru-hiking? 00:34:35 - Did you solve any gear problems going from the Long Trail to the PCT? 00:37:06 - Were you crafty at that point? 00:40:15 - What do you customize for your packs? 00:43:55 - What does the S-strap do? 00:47:15 - Is chafing a common issue? 00:50:00 - Discussion about the pack design 00:52:27 - Are other brands making female-specific packs? 00:56:10 - What are some common sizing questions? 00:58:45 - Who is your ideal customer? 01:04:30 - What do you see as the next way to open up the product offering? 01:08:00 - Discussion about Chaunce's bags 01:12:00 - When did the lightbulb for this pack go off for you? 01:14:28 - What's been the most intimidating part of this effort to tackle? 01:17:05 - What is the fabric on the pack? 01:18:05 - What's it like to go from being new to having some reviews to support the product? 01:20:00 - Did you hike with Double Dip? 01:21:54 - Did you have other CDT hikers using your pack? 01:23:30 - Are the packs coming from a manufacturer? 01:26:05 - Have you connected with other manufacturers in the cottage industry? 01:27:30 - Do you have investors? 01:28:40 - What other frustrations do you have with female gear? 01:31:35 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance enhancing hack? Segments Trek Propaganda:  Missing Hiker Found Dead on Mount Whitney by Katie Jackson REI Announces Mass Layoffs and an End to a Beloved Program by Katie Jackson The Best Backpacking Tents for Thru-Hiking in 2025 by the Editors QOTD:  At what point does poop actually start smelling like shit? Triple Crown of middle aged happiness Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Ben Love, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Mud Tom, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Bonnie Ackerman, Chris Pyle, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Katharine Rudzitis, Lauren Cain, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.

Send us a textJoin us as we welcome the legendary Dan Vega, a towering figure in the Colorado Springs running community, known for his enduring passion and iconic races such as the Pikes Peak Ascent and the Leadville 100. With anecdotes spanning from his early days in California to his significant influence in the Mountain West, Dan shares his rich tapestry of experiences. From his college years at Adams State to forging deep connections with fellow running greats like Matt Carpenter, Dan's journey offers fascinating insights into the camaraderie and competition that fuel the spirit of trail running.Dan's stories reveal the grit and determination required to tackle the tough terrains of ultra-marathons, including strategic insights from the Leadville Trail 100. The episode unfolds with humorous recollections and personal encounters that capture the essence of the ultra-running community, painting a vivid picture of the mental and physical fortitude required to succeed in these grueling races. We also celebrate the vibrant running culture in Colorado Springs, offering a glimpse into the playful challenges and community bonds strengthened through Strava segments.Discover the evolution of trail racing through Dan's eyes, as we navigate topics like training methodologies, the sponsorship landscape, and the changing dynamics of competitive running. Dan's reflections on personal milestones, including the birth of his son, underscore the profound impact of mental shifts on running performance. Whether recounting victories at events like the San Juan Solstice or discussing the balance of work and racing commitments, Dan's journey in trail running is one of resilience, growth, and unwavering passion.Dan Vega Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dan190301/

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Jared “Snackbox” Champion. Snackbox is s a hiker, father, and Youtuber who, in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the Colorado Trail, hiked it almost exclusively with 50 year old gear.  We talk about the process of sourcing this gear, the hardest items to acquire, the least backpacker-friendly items of the bunch, which gear hasn't advanced as much, and how his appreciation for gear has changed in light of this experience. Jared also shares the story of bonding with his now-wife over their shared love of the Colorado Trail, life as a professor, managing ADHD on trail, and much more.  We wrap the show with a last call for Trek Vlogger applications, Chaunce and I share our take on cowboy (and cowgirl) camping, how thin a pancake can be before it's a crepe, and the triple crown of things we've changed our minds on. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  Timeline: Get 33% off your first order at timeline.com/backpacker33. [divider] Interview with Jared “Snackbox” Champion Jared's Instagram Jared's Youtube Time stamps & Questions 00:05:10 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon, get tickets to our live show in Austin on April 17, and apply to vlog for the Trek! 00:07:45 - Introducing Jared 00:08:15 - What's your trail name origin story? 00:09:50 - What's your favorite dad joke? 00:10:14 - Tell us about your hiking resume 00:11:45 - Tell us about meeting your wife on trail 00:16:34 - Tell us about hiking the Dodson Loop in Big Bend 00:18:33 - Sell Zach on the Collegiate Loop 00:21:50 - Where did this CT hike idea come from? 00:24:30 - Discussion about being a professor 00:27:00 - Discussion about finding sponsors 00:30:55 - Discussion about choosing the shoes 00:32:30 - What pack did you use? 00:35:40 - What tent did you use? 00:38:00 - How did you determine what gear you could cheat on a bit? 00:41:30 - What sleeping bag did you use? 00:44:37 - What did you bring for apparel? 00:45:50 - What was the weight of your pack and how did your mileage change? 00:48:50 - What's your overarching thesis about the hike? 00:52:45 - Do you appreciate ultralight gear more now? 00:55:12 - When does the documentary come out? 00:56:50 - How does ADHD interface with your backpacking experience? 01:03:07 - What fun Colorado Trail history facts do you have? 01:05:02 - Do you know what your next project will be? 01:07:30 - Do you think thru-hiking has curbed any negative symptoms of ADHD? 01:08:40 - Stay Salty Question: What's your hottest take in the world of backpacking? Segments Trek Propaganda Be Honest. Do Any of You Actually Like Cowboy Camping? By Kelly Floro 12,000 Miles and Counting: Peg Leg's Backpacking Gear That Survived the Triple Crown and Beyond by Peg Leg QOTD: How thin can a pancake be before it becomes a crepe? Triple Crown of things you've changed your mind on Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Ben Love, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Mud Tom, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Bonnie Ackerman, Chris Pyle, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Katharine Rudzitis, Lauren Cain, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.

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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by thru-hiker and Trek Writer, Katie Jackson, known on trail as Double Dip. Katie gives us an in depth breakdown of her recent thru-hike of the Continental Divide Trail, including why she advocates that hikers not take the Creede cutoff, her experience of a wild storm so intense that lightning struck and killed nearby cows, the challenge of losing her hiking partner early on, hiking on an injured foot for hundreds of miles- and how it was miraculously healed in some hot springs, waking up to grizzles in her camp, and much more. Katie also gives some of her backpacking hot takes, including how the Colorado Trail is superior to the JMT. We wrap the show with whether it'll be possible to thru-hike the AT in 2025, the incredible phenomenon that is Frito feet, my new depressing thing of the week, and the triple crown of places where a long trail should exist. Gossamer Gear: Use code “SNUGGLEBUG” for 20% off shelters at gossamergear.com.  Trailbrush: Use code “TREK20” for 20% off trailbrush.com.  [divider] Interview with Katie “Double Dip” Jackson Katie's Trek author page Katie's Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:02:46 - Reminders: Help us make Jabba shave his beard, support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, join us in Denver on December 7th and apply to be a 2025 blogger! 00:07:55 - Introducing Katie 00:08:40 - What's your outdoors origin story? 00:11:15 - What's your 9 to 5? 00:14:24 - Would you recommend consulting to people interested in thru-hiking? 00:16:05 - How does your engineering brain manifest while hiking? 00:18:37 - Did you plan anything on the Colorado Trail that you did not plan for the CDT? 00:19:30 - How many boxes did you send yourself on the CDT? 00:21:35 - What other regrets do you have from hiking the Colorado Trail? 00:27:07 - How did your eating strategy evolve over the CT? 00:31:00 - Discussion about the Cochetopa section of the CT 00:36:12 - What led you to the John Muir Trail in 2023? 00:38:02 - Which trail is better between the CT and JMT? 00:40:00 - Why didn't you love the Winds? 00:41:18 - Was your dad okay with you doing the CDT in 2024? 00:42:10 - Did you ever have any issues with satellite messages not going through? 00:43:35 - How was New Mexico? 00:44:40 - Tell us about losing your hiking partner early on 00:49:54 - Would you feel comfortable starting the CDT alone now? 00:52:45 - How was the water in New Mexico? 01:02:45 - How would you rate New Mexico 1 out of 10? 01:05:00 - How much snow did you encounter? 01:08:10 - When did you use your ice axe? 01:10:30 - Were most people getting beaten up? 01:14:30 - What advice do you have to avoid silly mistakes? 01:18:35 - What were your top 5 snacks? 01:21:20 - Discussion about Katie's backpack 01:23:25 - Tell us about the next stretch of trail and your foot injury 01:26:45 - What was the diagnosis from the doctor? 01:28:35 - Story about stopping in Granby 01:33:00 - How did your foot eventually heal? 01:35:40 - Tell us about taking the cutoff around Rocky Mountain National Park 01:36:50 - If you did the CDT again, would you do any different alternates? 01:38:45 - Did you experience judgment because you hadn't done another long trail before? 01:42:00 - Discussion about unsolicited advice 01:43:30 - How was the mental aspect of the trail compared to your expectations? 01:45:00 - Tell us about Wyoming and adding whimsy to the trail 01:48:25 - Why didn't you love the Winds? 01:49:27 - Tell us about the Idaho-Montana border 01:51:50 - Would you do the trail again SOBO? 01:53:05 - Tell us about almost getting hit by lightning 02:01:20 - What was the best trail magic of the CDT? 02:05:05 - Tell us about the Montana section 02:06:37 - How did you manage your long distance relationship? 02:08:10 - Did Montana meet your expectations? 02:11:50 - Did you see any grizzlies? 02:14:47 - What was it like to get to the terminus? 02:17:36 - Kumo Question: What is your favorite book and why? 02:20:17 - Where can people follow you? Segments Trek Propaganda Will It Even Be Possible To Thru-Hike the AT in 2025? by Kelly Floro Why I'm NEVER Hiking in a Dress Again by Kelly Floro QOTD:  Do you know about Frito feet? Depressing Thing of the Week Triple Crown of where a long trail should be Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Ben Love, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Mud Tom, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Bonnie Ackerman, Chris Pyle, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Katharine Rudzitis, Lauren Cain, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we're joined by Tara Dower, the new holder of overall Fastest Known Time on the Appalachian Trail. Tara gives us the low down on every aspect of her recent record-breaking trek, including how she fell wildly behind pace after the first two states, her nutrition, her sleep habits (or lack thereof), how vital her crew was in her success, the criticism she's faced for "hiking too fast", running a 100-mile race just a few weeks prior to the attempt, and much more. Tara also goes into more depth on her backpacking and FKT background and we subject her to a pair of brutally awkward fornicate, marry, kill questions. Fun times all around.   We wrap the show with our triple crown of guilty pleasure songs, a stupid thing of the week (Zach hurts himself again), and the most unrealistic thing we thought we could be when we were kids. Raise $10,000 and the Real Hiking Viking Will Do the Unthinkable… Topo Athletic: Use code “THETREK15” at topoathletic.com. Gossamer Gear: Use code “SNUGGLEBUG” for 20% off shelters at gossamergear.com.  LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. [divider] Interview with Tara “Candy Mama” Dower Tara's Instagram Tara's Website Tara's Youtube Time stamps & Questions 00:05:55 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, join us in Denver on December 7th and apply to be a 2025 blogger! 00:07:55 - Introducing Tara 00:09:29 - Are you still recovering? 00:10:45 - What mantras did you have? 00:13:00 - What was your origin story in the outdoors? 00:17:12 - When did you decide to pursue the Mountains to Sea Trail FKT? 00:19:00 - Did you impress yourself at that moment? 00:21:30 - Tell us about getting off the AT because of anxiety 00:23:05 - How do you manage anxiety during an FKT attempt? 00:24:25 - Were you tough growing up? 00:26:45 - What inspired you to want to continue pursuing FKTs? 00:29:55 - Tell us about the John Muir Trail 00:31:20 - What part of running do you dislike the most? 00:32:30 - Tell us about the Benton MacKaye Trail FKT 00:34:40 - Tell us about the Colorado Trail FKT 00:36:20 - Discussion about support classifications 00:40:25 - How do you deal with critics? 00:44:30 - How did the Colorado Trail change your outlook on future FKTs? 00:46:00 - When did you decide to go after the AT FKT? 00:48:38 - Did you initially plan to beat the overall record? 00:50:08 - Were you intimidated by others who tried and failed to beat the record? 00:51:30 - Did you notice a transition in social media as you were running? 00:55:18 - Why did your anxiety influence which direction you went? 00:57:20 - How long before you started was the Hard Rock? 01:00:00 - What was it like going through Mahoosuc Notch at FKT pace? 01:01:44 - Tell us about being behind pace at first 01:05:27 - How did your crew chief motivate you? 01:07:03 - Did you ever disagree about decisions? 01:08:00 - How much of a trail was solo or with a pacer? 01:09:50 - What was your adjustment like after the FKT? 01:12:45 - How has your nutrition changed over the years? 01:18:55 - Did you have any near injuries? 01:19:40 - Can you pinpoint a low moment? 01:23:30 - Did you hallucinate? 01:26:45 - Tell us about your average mileage and sleep during the FKT 01:30:40 - Is Rascal's position a paid position? 01:31:34 - Did you have any paid sponsorship during this run? 01:32:26 - When did you know you had it? 01:35:02 - Did you conceptualize how big of a deal it was going to be? 01:36:35 - Tell us about raising money for Girls on the Run 01:38:20 - Fuck Marry Kill: thru-hiking, FKTs, ultraracing 01:39:31 - Fuck Marry Kill: Outside Magazine, Washington Post, The Trek 01:40:34 - Kumo Question: What's something you've always wanted to try but haven't had the courage to do yet? Segments Trek Propaganda: Tara Dower Sets Overall Fastest Known Time on Appalachian Trail by Kelly Floro QOTD:  What is the most unrealistic thing you thought you could be when you were a kid? Stupid Thing of the Week Triple Crown of guilty pleasure songs Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Ben Love, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Old Man Murph's Coffee Roasters, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Bonnie Ackerman, Chris Pyle, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Katharine Rudzitis, Lauren Cain, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.