Podcast appearances and mentions of Peter Thomas

Så tänker investerare när de kliver in i B2B SaaS-bolag – med Erik Syrén från Monterro Hur resonerar en investerare när de utvärderar ett B2B SaaS-bolag? Och vad händer egentligen efter att investeraren har gått in som ägare? I det här avsnittet av Sälj- och Marknadspodden pratar Anders Hermansson med Erik Syrén, tidigare entreprenör och vd på Lime Technologies och idag verksam på Monterro, där han bland annat sitter i investeringskommittén och är ordförande i flera portföljbolag. Samtalet handlar om vad som kännetecknar starka mjukvarubolag, varför nöjda kunder och låg churn är så centralt, hur ägarresan ser ut efter en investering och varför pengar sällan är den viktigaste produkten en investerare erbjuder. De pratar också om AI:s påverkan på SaaS-branschen, skillnaden mellan lättkopierade funktioner och verklig defensibility, samt varför affärskritisk mjukvara med hög stickiness fortfarande kan vara mycket starka bolag även i en AI-driven värld. Läs transkribering Anders Hermansson (00:06) Hej och hjärtligt välkomna till Sälj och marknadsbådde från Business Reflex. Jag heter Anders Hermansson. Tack för att lyssnar. Idag tar vi vi pratar om hur investerare resonerar när de tittar på bolag att investera i. Och vi pratar även om hur investerare agerar när de väl är inne i bolaget. Svaren på de här frågorna är såklart väldigt olika beroende på vilken typ av investerare man är. Och idag ska jag intervjua en av Sveriges tyngsta entreprenör inom B2B-planbara. Han sitter i en lång rad styrelser och arbetar idag på Montero där han sitter i deras investment board. Montero, för er som inte vet, är ett bolag som investerar i Scalapse, alltså ett bolag som har tagit sig en bit på sin resa men vill komma vidare därifrån. Personen i fråga heter Erik Syrén och han kommer inledningsvis att berätta om sin väldigt intressanta resa från studentrummet till framgångsrikt entreprenör och till investerare. Så häng med nu på en mycket intressant intervju om ur ägarperspektivet. Anders Hermansson (01:16) Erik Syrén, hjärtligt välkommen till Sälj marknadsbotten! Erik (01:20) Tackandes. Anders Hermansson (01:22) Grunt att ha det här jätteroligt med en sådan erfaren tungviktare inom SAS-branschen i podden. Erik (01:29) Vi får se om det blir något innehåll som är värt att lyssna på. Det håller vi tummarna för. Anders Hermansson (01:32) Ja, du är ödmjuk också. Han är Ödmuk också. Det är fantastiskt. Ja, vad roligt. Vi ska ju prata om, titta på det här lite grann ur investerarperspektivet idag och prata om kanske två aspekter. Dels hur det är bolag som du representerar när Montero, hur ni gör när ni tittar efter bolag som ni kan tänka er att in i och sedan även prata lite grann om hur ni agerar när ni väl har gått in i ett bolag. Erik (01:36) Och glimtar i ögat. Anders Hermansson (02:00) Men du har ju en rik och intressant historia inom det här gebitet. Kan inte du berätta lite grann om din resa och så fram till nu? Erik (02:10) Absolut. Så jag i slutet av 90-talet så pluggade jag i Lund och jag satt på ekonomihögskolan i Lund och så tittade ut genom fönstret och utanför dörrarna så hade vi Framtidsfabriken, hade Bord.com, vi hade Ericsson Mobile, vi hade Axis, vi hade Klick och så vidare. Så väldigt fina tech- och mjukvaruföretag och för mig som student Där och då kändes som att jag satt i huvudstaden i dotcom. Allt bara bubblar. fanns alla möjligheter. Medan jag kände själv att jag inte kollade egentligen på vad var på it och it bolag och jag kunde inte se skillnad på ett it konsultbolag eller mjukvaruföretag eller e-commerce bolag utan för mig var det bara en blandning av av det jag lärt mig efteråt är att det ingen annan som kunde det heller på slut 90 talet. De blandade ihop de här typen av bolag men men. Anders Hermansson (03:05) Nej. Erik (03:08) Då blev jag väldigt inspirerad och kände att det där vill jag hålla på med. Jag vill lära mig mer om tech och det kändes som att det hände någonting. En revolution som jag vill vara med på. Så när jag var klar med studierna så letade jag jobb på något litet mindre mjukföretag som jag kunde vara med och driva. Träffade på ett bolag som hette Lundalogik på den tiden. som utvecklar och säljer CRM-system hade de börjat fokusera mer och mer mot. Det var fem, sex stycken i Lund som drev det här företaget. Och tänkte väldigt mycket när de drev bolaget som ett litet mer traditionellt mjukvaruvare. Som ett traditionellt bolag med lönsam tillväxt. När vi har pengar så kan vi växa. Det passade väldigt bra med min småländska bakgrund. Den där typen av bolag känner igen. Anders Hermansson (04:04) Just bootstrapping. Erik (04:05) Ja, numera bootstrappingen. Så jag hoppade på det jobbet, började driva det där bolaget, blev delägare och drev detta med mina kompisar, kollegor, vänner. Och vi drev bolaget fram till 2008, då mina kollegor ville göra något annat i livet. De är lite äldre, så de kände att det kanske är värt att… att titta på en mer strukturerad process och kanske sälja bolaget. Så vi sålde 100 % av bolaget till Bisnode och ingick i ett konglomerat med över 4 000 anställda, en data provider, numera är det ju Danner Bradstreet. De köpte mjukvaruföretag för de kände att priset på data går ner. Det är inte värd så mycket att sälja personlig information, elektritinformation eller företagsinformation. Anders Hermansson (04:47) Ahoj! Erik (05:03) som de hade haft monopol på och varit väldigt starka på att kunna diktera priserna hela tiden. Men nu kände de att det blev mer och mer än… Ja, priserna gick ner och det blev mer än standardvara med uppgift. Så då ville de tänka om att om vi kan ta hand och hålla det i mjukvara inkluderat, då kan vi också skapa större värde för kunderna och därmed kan vi ta högre pris. Så det var tanken att man köpte lite mjukvaruföretag. Anders Hermansson (05:18) Mm. Erik (05:31) Men att vara ett snabbväxande mjukvaruförtag och komma in i ett konglomerat med massa olika bolag, olika varumärken, olika kulturer var helt fel för oss. Där och då ett entreprenörs drivet snabbväxande mjukvaruförtag. Så efter ett par tre år i den strukturen så landade jag tillsammans med management i Bisner och att det är bättre att gå skilda vägar. Så vi gick ut i en strukturerad process. Anders Hermansson (05:41) Mm. Erik (05:57) träffade vi kanske 30 olika private equity bolag, investerare i mjukvaruföretag. Där och då var min känsla när jag sprang runt mellan de här bolagen att jag fick utbilda dem, mer eller mindre, hur det är att riva ett mjukvaruföretag. Och framför allt hur det är att konkurrera med Salesforce och Microsoft som var de stora giganterna på serien marknaden. Och hur man kan, trots att de är stora, globala, så kan man hitta Anders Hermansson (06:15) Mm. Erik (06:26) vatikaler, nischer lokalt där man kan bli marknadsledare och man kan marknaden så pass stor som man kan bli ett stort bolag ändå. Och man kan hitta nya sätt att positionera och differentiera sig. Alla såg bara risker med att konkurrera med de här stora aktörerna. Efter några månader in i den här processen så träffade jag en helt ny spelare på marknaden som heter Montero. Tre stycken. Anders Hermansson (06:35) Mm. Erik (06:54) killar, två stycken med liknande bakgrund som mig som operatörer som har drivit mjukvaruföretag själva och en kille som kommer från Cobrids Finance och Bankvärlden. Och redan i första mötet så hittar vi väldigt väldigt väl. Istället för att prata risken med att konkurrera med Salesforce Microsoft så pratar vi möjligheten att konkurrera och hur vi kunde ta en helt unik position på en lokal marknad. Anders Hermansson (07:03) Mm. Erik (07:23) Så känslan hos mig var ju att vi byggde upp. Vi började diskutera strategier och affärsplanen i första mötet. Och efter mötet så landade vi i att vi gör management buyout tillsammans med Montero. Vi landade där att vi köper bolaget tillsammans. Som hette då Lime Technologies. Efter ett halvår in i den processen så satt jag och Peter, min ordförande, och satt och diskuterade. Anders Hermansson (07:36) Mmm, okej. Erik (07:52) Både högt och lågt. Efter ett och tre landar vi in i hur ett framtida ägande av Lime, hur skulle det kunna se ut? Vad hade varit en bra ägare efter Montero? Och där och då kände jag att jag hade ägt bolaget med mina kollegor, mina partners. Jag hade ingått i ett konglomerat med 4 000 anställda och jag var PE-ägt där och då. För mig fanns det en sak kvar att jag hade velat pröva och det var att notera bolaget. Så då sa vi att låt oss driva ett projekt och en tanke mot att en dag ska vi kunna först notera Lime. Hur skulle bolaget se ut då? Då kan man ju tänka att det är mycket med IFRS och rapportering och policies och sådana saker. Det vi pratade om var mycket mer hur bolaget vilken karaktär på bolaget ska ha vilka marknader ska vi vara på hur mycket recurring revenue hur mycket mycket revenue ska vara utomlands vilka marknader ska vi vara på i så fall hur ska management se ut vilken funktionalitet måste vi ha i produkten vad kan vi göra organiskt vad kan vi göra inorganiskt och sen la vi på rapportering och policies på det och vi jobbade med det ifrån 2014 Anders Hermansson (09:15) Öster. Erik (09:20) fram till 2018 i december. Anders Hermansson (09:23) Vad var drivkraften att notera bolaget? Erik (09:29) Dels så det ju så att om du har en ägare som är private equity så ingår det i spelet att de köper, de utvecklar och de säljer. för en private equity aktör så är det ju att deras syfte är ju att skapa returns till sina investerare. Och gör man driver man ett bolag med en ägarstruktur med majoritetsägare som är PE så kommer du vara till salu. Någon gång när det är en bra avkastning för investerarna. Så syftet var egentligen att skapa att vi behöver göra en ägarförändring och montera och ville sälja. är stora syftet och det stora syfte för min sida var ju att då kan jag gå upp som huvudägare i bolaget. Jag kan fortsätta jag på att sälja någonting. Jag kan fortsätta vara ägare i bolaget i en noterad miljö. Anders Hermansson (10:14) Ja, och tack. Erik (10:27) Och våra anställda kan vara ägare så vi kan äga bolaget tillsammans. Och sen tyckte jag också att fin tanke att då kan vi bygga en Evergreen som kan verka länge länge länge. För det är väldigt stor och viktig del i mitt liv, Lime. Och det vi har byggt tillsammans är det företaget. Så vi gjorde noteringen 2018. Anders Hermansson (10:32) Mm. Mm. Jag fattar. Erik (10:54) Den 6 december och om man vill titta tillbaka på den tiden så var det lite turbulent på aktiemarknaden även då. Under andra halvåret var det lite räntorop marknaden och den dagen vi noterade var den sämsta dagen på Stockholmsbösen det året. Så då fick man ju lite vänta vad vi gjort. Hela Asien föll när vi gick upp och ringde klockan. Sen så blev det väldigt väldigt bra. Hela noteringen och Anders Hermansson (11:10) ⁓ okej. Nej. Erik (11:24) 2019 och sen kom 2020 pandemin. Det har hänt mycket under de här åren men noteringen blev väldigt bra. Det ingick också i planen att när jag var klar med det operativa på Lime så skulle jag joinna Montero. Det hade vi i P1 och jag pratat om länge. Jag hade varit med som rådgivare, investerare och har varit med som bolgplank till många av våra Montero-investeringar vi gjort genom åren. Anders Hermansson (11:30) Alla kan. Erik (11:54) Så jag tyckte det var väldigt spännande att det skulle kunna vara en möjlighet för mig på nästa steg. Sen så kom ju pandemin. Min långväga kollega Nils Olsson som var försäljningschef väldigt länge på Lime, också vice vd och CEO på Lime. Han börjar bli mogen för att ta över. Så när vi såg ljuset tundan efter pandemin 2021 så lämnade jag över staffettpinnen till Nils. och hoppade på Montero fem och ett halvt år sedan ungefär. På Montero så är min roll att jag är ordförande i sex av våra bolag. Jag kan komma in på det vad det betyder men vi är väldigt mycket hands on. Vi jobbar väldigt nära våra management team och våra ledningsgrupper. Så det är min huvudsakliga uppgift. Sen sitter jag på investeringskommittén. Där vi går igenom alla kris och alla investeringar vi gör och vilka bolag vi investerar i. Och sen sitter jag vår styrelse. Så det är min roll på mot här. Anders Hermansson (13:02) Vad saknar du mest från vd-rollen? Erik (13:09) Mm? Dels saknar jag fokuset att vara delaktig i någonting där man känner att man kan bli mätbar varje dag. Det vill säga att blir lite svart, alltså ett och nolla, blir lite svart och vitt. Det vill säga att när man gör affärer går bra, man rekryterar lite folk, man känner att man har releasat några funktioner som varit bra och uppskattade av våra kunder. Anders Hermansson (13:23) Mm. Erik (13:39) Man har skapat ett kundvärde och nöjda användare ute hos på marknaden. Då får man rätt god feeling och en sån här feedback som man bara känner. Det här funkar. Det är bäst. Den är väldigt direkt och å andra sidan så är den ju också lika tung när man tappar en medarbetare som slutar hos dig eller du tappar en affär. Då är vi inte världens bästa CRM-system längre. Vi är inte världens bästa arbetsgivare längre och då mår du lite dåligt. Det blir lite en kris. Anders Hermansson (13:49) Den är direkt. Erik (14:09) Så då kommer du dina dippa också. Men just den där att vara företagsledare, levande med ditt bolag och entreprenör hela tiden. Du blir lite manu-depressiv brukar jag säga. Det går lite upp och ner. Alla duktiga entreprenörer har varit psykolog på något sätt. Eller någon gång. Ibland ligger man under skrivbordet och gråter lite grann och tänker nu gick det åt helsike. Och det kan jag sakna. Anders Hermansson (14:11) Tack Just det. Mm, exakt. Jag med. Exakt. Erik (14:38) Jag saknar de här kickarna när det går jäkligt bra och när man känner att man levererar högt kundvärde och medarbetarna utvecklas eller när man gör en stor affär. Samtidigt kan jag sakna de här dipparna när man bara känner att det gick åt helsike. Det har jag på Montero också för vi driver i vår låda vårt företag. Men vi är så många fler. Anders Hermansson (14:48) Pista. Så man får ta tag i det igen. Mm. Erik (15:05) som delar på den där manor depressiva. har 30, 33, 34 bolag idag som vi är majoritetsägare i. Vi gör mycket add-on förvärv, alltså tilläggsförvärv till våra bolag. Jag har sex, jag är ordförande i. Jag har väl en tre till som jag sitter i styrelsen i. När man ringer runt och tar mina fredagsamtal med alla bolagen. Det är alltid något som går bra, något som går dåligt. Man kan glädjas. Så det jämnar ute lite mer. Så jag får inte likt. Anders Hermansson (15:35) Just det. Men det kanske är lite mer som att på styrelsenivå är det mer som ett sju-punktsmedel än att vara en direkt siffra på varje. Erik (15:45) Ja, men så är det. Så det finns lite för- nackdelar med de här två uppläggen, men jag har kul på jobbet. Det är det viktiga. Anders Hermansson (15:47) Lite smodare kurva på något sätt. Ja, det är väldigt viktigt. väldigt viktigt. Ja, men grymt. Vi kanske skulle komma in lite grann på det här med då kopplat till Investeringskommittén och det här. Hur tittar ni på saker? Och jag måste säga, alltså det är ju nästan fånigt, men det finns väl… Vi har ju faktiskt lyckats prata nu i några minuter utan att nämna AI, men nu kommer det liksom. Det här med att titta på bolag och deras förmåga att skapa värde och sådana saker. Hur gör Montero och du och ni när ni tittar på bolag och också ur perspektivet om det har påverkat ert perspektiv över huvud taget med AI? Erik (16:34) Det enkla svaret är absolut. Vi lever med det här och känner både lugnet och stressen varje dag. Vi insåg väldigt snabbt att det här är en extremt stor möjlighet för våra portföljbolag. Många av de här sakerna vi sitter och kämpar med, att man sitter med en tech… Anders Hermansson (16:37) Ja, eller hur? Erik (17:00) skuld i man sett i produkten eller man behöver migrera en kundbas och behöver lägga in en produkt i harves mode eller man behöver utveckla ny funktionalitet. Länge har ju utvecklingsordning inom bit by software varit en flaskhals. Vi har ju haft långa roadmaps där det har varit diskussioner hur vi ska prioritera roadmapen. Där vi har kommit till ett läge där vi kan åstadkomma väldigt mycket. Mycket mer effektivt och öka produktiviteten i våra utvecklingsavdelningar. Och då gäller det att fånga de här möjligheterna. Fånga den här förändringen. nu kommer vi tillbaka igen till 90-talet här. Det är nästan som jag känner att jag kommer tillbaka till. Då kom eran i slut 90-talet med internet. och alla möjligheter som uppstår med mjukvara, internet och att alla fick en PC på skrivbordet. Och samma känsla har jag här och nu att vi är i en sån stor omställning och jag befinner mig mitt i den omställningen tillsammans med mina bolag. Och stressen är ju att alla bolag Anders Hermansson (18:11) Mm. Hmm. Erik (18:28) måste känna vilka möjligheter som finns här ute och ta vara på den. Samtidigt kan jag inte säga till dem vad best practice är. För vad har hänt sedan november, december med Claude och Claude Cowork till exempel. Alltså det har ju hänt extremt mycket och när det är optimalt Anders Hermansson (18:38) Nej, nej, exter. Erik (18:53) Hur ska jag bygga mitt utvecklingsteam? Hur ska jag jobba inom product management? Hur ska jag jobba med QA inom inom inom inom R &D? Hur ska jag jobba med releaserna och övriga avdelningar? Marketing, sälj, customer support, etc. etc. Så det här förändrar ju hela sättet hur vi driver våra bolag och det skapar sådana möjligheter. Och så var det ju alla de här transformeringarna jag varit inne i. Anders Hermansson (19:08) Exakt. Mm. Erik (19:22) mobil, internet och så vidare så har det alltid uppstått nya möjligheter för nya aktörer. Så det kommer ju att dyka upp nya spelare på marknaden som kan wipe code, kan göra någonting väldigt väldigt snabbt. Det är en enorm möjlighet för nya entreprenörer, för våra barn och ungdomar att driva bolag. De kan ju ta fram en produkt såhär snabbt, alltså mjukvaran i produkten. Anders Hermansson (19:30) Mm. Jag har faktiskt, jag har senaste tre veckorna så har byggt en SaaS-plattform själv. Den tog 30 år att bygga, konstaterar jag. För det är 30 år, 29 år och 11 månaders erfarenheter som på en månad nu är en SaaS-plattform för hela go-to-market-processen inom B2B. Erik (20:06) Du ser där vilka möjligheter nu och jag menar det är också intressant. är ju att precis där du sa 29 30 års erfarenhet domain expertis alla de saker för ofta får man höra här. Vi kodade över konkurrenten då som kommer upp som nytt. Ja men då kanske de kan konkurrera ut Lime eller Pythagoras eller Planema eller Pir. Jo men det man inte får glömma bort är ju att många av här bolagen har levt i 20 år 30 år. Anders Hermansson (20:18) Mm. Erik (20:36) Det är inte bara kod de har genererat. kanske är 20 procent av personalkosten är kod. Det andra handlar ju väldigt mycket om integration, nätverk, att vara compliant, supporten, implementation, domänexpertis. Allt det där är 80-90 procent av övriga erbjudandet som gör att du differentierar dig. Och då gäller det ju att dra nytta av möjligheten att kan göra med kod, att generera bra Anders Hermansson (20:38) Det ses. Erik (21:05) mjukvara och kombinerar det med övriga produkter dutehandhållen. Så i alla de här förändringarna kommer det uppstå nya nya aktörer. Det kommer vara existerande som inte hoppar på tåget som inte förstår förändringen som inte orkar med att göra förändringen som kommer bli utkonkurrerade och det kommer vara en rad befintliga som fattar möjligheten och kommer bli mycket mycket större i morgon. Tack vare AI och de möjligheterna som dyker upp. Och min stress och möjlighet är ju att hjälpa de här bolagen att göra transformationen. Att bli mjukvaruföretag som drar nytta av AI som verktyg och i sina produkter. Det svåra i det här är ju att veta exakt hur ska en utvecklingsavdelning se ut? Hur är den optimal? Vi har inga best practice. Det enda vi gett är att vi måste anamma förändringen. Vi måste vara på de här sakerna. Vi måste utveckla de första funktionerna. Jag kanske inte vet hur ett gränsligt AI-gränssnitt ska se ut optimalt i mjukvaran. Det kanske är så att det ska vara en chat där man chatta och en agent gör saker och ting i mjukvaran. Eller så kan det vara en kombination av det gamla gränssnittet eller något helt nytt. Det enda jag vet är att vi måste vara på det här och om vi gör det så lär vi oss väldigt mycket av våra portföljbolag. Vi träffar ju extremt mycket bit och software bolag. Samtidigt så kan vi ta med oss den erfarenheten in i nya bolag hela tiden. Så det finns väldigt få aktörer som i och att vi fokuserar på bit och software så bygger vi upp mycket erfarenhet kunskap och vi bygger upp en best practice över tid. Om vi bara är på den förändringen. Anders Hermansson (22:53) Och höjst är. Hur är det med bolagen i Köfir? Jag har varit med i många, dels själv i vissa startups men också delaktigt som en marknadspartner till startups. Då har alltid varit att vd måste lägga mycket energi på att leta pengar. och ringer vd-arna runt med hjälp av kassinstytet så att de andas och leta pengar. Står folk i kö utanför Montero och knackar på vill komma eller hur funkar det? Scoutar ni efter bolag på något sätt eller hur ser det ut just nu? Erik (23:33) Man önskar ju det var en kö utanför med de finaste bolagen som står här utanför och säger kom igen hjälp oss. Men men faktum är att vi har blivit större och större och vi har ett ganska bra brand i Norden. Hur har det kommit sig då? Jo men det är ju att vi har långvariga. Vi har vatt på den här marknaden sedan 2012. Anders Hermansson (23:39) Ha Erik (24:03) Det vi gör är väldigt mycket likt ett mjukvaruföretag. Vi är ute och gör olika event. Vi har det som kallas Nordic Software Summit i augusti, den 20 augusti, där vi samlar 1500 entreprenörer och C-level-nivåer i mjukvaruföretag inom B2B Software i en stor summit under en hel dag. Där vi nätverkar, Vi har bra presentatörer som kommer att presentera olika viktiga topics, till exempel AI eller pricing eller liknande ämnen. Och hela syftet är inte att de ska känna att vi säljer till dem, utan hela syftet är att bygga ett varumärke där vi är relevanta inom BTP-software. Sen gör vi på liknande sätt så sätter vi upp en turné, Nordic Software Tour, där vi åker runt i hela Norden. Anders Hermansson (24:51) Mm. Erik (24:58) ut till alla de lokala återna i Oslo, Stavanger, Trondheim, Nordra Finland, södra Danmark och så vidare för att träffa mjukvårdföretagen på sin hemmaplats eller hemmaarena. Vi gör poddar i det här forumet, väldigt viktigt för oss. Vi skriver mjukvårdförebycker, vi frukost och luncher för att hitta forum där vi kan visa vår erfarenhet och kunskap. Anders Hermansson (25:02) Mm. Erik (25:25) Vi kan ge vår erfarenhet kunskap till mjukfart företagen, även nystattade startups. För vi vet att lyckas dem så kommer de växa in i vår ICPA, i vår målgrupp. Våra sellitprocesser varar kanske två till fem år. Det vill säga vi ska träffas ett antal gånger både hos dig och hos oss för att lära känna varandra. Dela med oss av idéer och Anders Hermansson (25:36) Mm. Mm. Erik (25:54) problem vi har utbyta dem. Lite gå tillbaka till 2012 när jag träffade Peter Thomas första gången. I mötena ska vi diskutera strategi och affärsplan och bygga upp saker och ting tillsammans för att kvalificera varandra om vi vill göra någonting tillsammans. Det man kan säga är att många bolag när de träffar oss står inför inflection point där de där de känner att. Men vänta nu. Anders Hermansson (26:03) Mm. Mm. Mm. Erik (26:23) Jag saknar kunskapen att lägga till ett kontor eller gå in på en ny marknad eller hur ska jag göra här pricing projektet eller nu ska jag ta och flytta upp och skapa en ny produkt. Hur gör jag det när man står inför de där skifterna och man tycker att man saknar erfarenhet och kunskap. Det är ofta då vi kommer in och hjälper de här entreprenörerna hjälper management teamet med den erfarenheten och blir. Anders Hermansson (26:50) Okej, det är väldigt långt ifrån dumma pengar låter det som såklart. Erik (26:54) Vi egentligen så här, du behöver ha dumma pengar och behöver ha minoritetsägare där du vet exakt hur du ska driva ditt bolag. Då ska du inte gå med oss, ska du inte, då ska du inte, ska inte vi vara där. Ofta är inte ditt, bolagen vi investerar i är inte perfekta. Det finns inga perfekta bolag som vi investerar i utan ofta har de några stycken röda lampor och gula lampor så någon måste ha hjälp med. Men man kommer ofta tillbaka till att det vi vill ha och det vi söker det är Anders Hermansson (26:58) Mm. ⁓ Nej. Erik (27:24) Nöjda kunder, det är en väldigt bra grej. Och att churn rates är låga. Alla bolag som ligger på över 10 procent och inte riktigt satt den här product market fitten. De försöker vi nog undvika vanligtvis. Nummer två så är det också viktigt med produkterna. Att det är stabila, fina, bra produkter. Anders Hermansson (27:25) Just det. Mm. Erik (27:53) som har en tydlig differensering och då produkter pratar jag både mjukvara men så pratar jag också de andra sakerna runt omkring som differensierar företaget mot sina konkurrenter. Och sen så det tredje det är ju att det finns en kultur ett DNA i bolaget där man är värderingsstyret att vi kan stå för vad bolaget är. Och då kommer man ofta tillbaka till grunderna och entreprenörerna, vilka de är och vilken bakgrund de har och vilken filosofi de har. Och hur de driver bolag helt enkelt. Anders Hermansson (28:22) Mm. Ja, jag fattar. Det låter som att det kan man inte få reda på i pitchdäcket. Det är processen att lära känna varandra som säkerställer det. låter som att är väldigt annorlunda, en lång process som bygger på kvalitet och dialog istället. Erik (28:52) Ja, och tittar du på processen när vi lär känna ett bolag så är det väldigt mycket möten, olika event, olika mötesplatser. Det kan vara på event och kan vara webbinarie och det kan vara fysiska möten på vårt kontor och deras kontor för att lära känna varandra och hitta varandra. Så att absolut, och den ser ju väldigt likt ut. Anders Hermansson (28:57) Hmm. Mm. Erik (29:22) ett vanligt mjuk, alltså om du säljer enterprise mjukvara i en lång komplicerad process, då är det ungefär så. Och vi gör ju det här, vi är fullt medvetna om att entreprenörerna gör ju det här väldigt sällan. Så vårt jobb i den här är att hålla dem i handen och skapa tryggheten i att ja, men det här gör vi tillsammans. Vi hittar det här partnerskapet tillsammans. Och komma tillbaka till det, pengarna. Anders Hermansson (29:29) Mm. Just det. Erik (29:52) Nej, det är det. Det är inte vår produkt. Vår produkt är att vi sitter på massa erfarenheter och kunskap. Att vi har 35 andra bolag i ett nätverk som vi delar kunskapen och erfarenheter med mellan varandra hela tiden. Jag tänkte själv att du har… Ja, istället för att du sitter som CTO i ett bolag så kan du alltid ringa till 35 andra CTO’er och bolla din utmaning. Det är ju en enorm möjlighet. Anders Hermansson (30:17) Mm. Just det. Ja, verkligen. Annars kan man bli lite ensam. Jag fattar. Vad heter det? Behöver man vara lönsam också, Erik (30:29) Det måste man inte alltid vara. Det måste finnas en underliggande lönsamhet. Vanligtvis tittar vi på bolag som har hittat en product market fit. Vi investerar inte i startups utan vi investerar i det vi kallar scale-ups till tillväxtbolag. Om det ligger någonstans mellan 20-30 miljoner i återkommande intäkter upp till 400-500 miljoner i återkommande intäkter. Det är någonstans ett bolag vi investerar i. Och sen har vi då skapat en playbook eller en process eller en metod hur vi driver våra bolag under sju till åtta års tid som är ungefär genomsnittstiden som vi är ägare i våra bolag. Och då har vi lite olika faser och i de här olika faserna så finns det olika delkomponenter vi kan använda. Det kan vara så att du har behov av hjälp med pricing, rekrytering, gå till nymarknad, konvertera dina räkenskaper till IFRS eller ta fram en transfer pricing modell. Alla avdelningarna du har är ett mjukvaruföretag, support, sälj, finans, utveckling, AI. Så alla de specialistområdena har vi också på Montero. Och under de specialistområdena så har du delkomponenter som vi till hand och hålla som vi försöker standardisera. Så vi kan hela tiden plocka från den verktygslådan. så säger vi om okej, nu har vi problem med pricing. Då tar vi in de här två experterna som är duktiga på det och som kan hjälpa er att driva den typen av projekt. Om ni vill det. så, men det viktiga i alla de här i de här projekten är det att Anders Hermansson (32:14) Mm. Mm. Erik (32:21) att man har ägandeskapet, att ägandeskapet ligger hos bolagen. Det får aldrig bli att vi körlar eller att vi håller för mycket bolagen i handen, utan ägandeskapet måste alltid ligga i bolaget. Och det är alltid management som ansvarar för driften av företagen. Och sen blir det att… Anders Hermansson (32:38) För fråga, man tänker så här, de första 100 dagarna, finns det någon sådan liksom, vad händer? Erik (32:45) Vi kommer från en värld där vi säger att de första hundra dagarna måste vi tillsammans med bolaget lära känna varandra och tillsammans bygga upp budget eller vad heter det, affärsplan och strategi för att hitta det här. För bolaget sitter ju på DNA1, sitter ju på marknadskunskapen, de sitter på domänexpertisen, medan vi kommer ju med erfarenheten från från att driva BTP-software. Ibland så har vi lite domänexpertis men inom det området de är inom men framförallt så är det bolag som sitter på det unika där. Och det gäller ju att det smälter samman. Vår erfarenhet och bakgrund tillsammans med deras domänexpertis och bolagsexpertis är det som skapar det här unika. Vi kan ju ha hypoteser när vi köper ett bolag men det Ofta tar det några månader att lära sig och sätta alla de där blocken på plats. Nu är det så att vi träffar i bolagen så länge, alltså två till tre, fyra, fem år innan. Och vi har ju ett antal möter där vi sitter och diskuterar budget eller affärsplan och strategi. Vilket gör ju att ibland får vi lite snabbare stadt. Så vi kan påbörja det här förändringsarbetet redan. dag ett, dag två. Så det beror lite på hur situationen är och vilket bolag vi kommer in i. Likadant så är det så här att vissa bolag måste ha mycket mer action i. Det vill säga att där måste vi kanske göra management komplettering eller förändringar dag ett. Vi kanske måste rekrytera säljare, vi kanske måste bygga en marketingorganisation och då vet vi det. Och då är handlade tiden väldigt viktigt att Anders Hermansson (34:09) Jag fattar. Mm. Mm. Erik (34:37) att agera på det snabbt. andra bolag så kan ju bolagen vara mer mogna. Det kanske redan ha en organisation med 150 anställda och har kommit en bit på vägen. Då handlar det mycket mer om att justera och kanske mer fokusera på några stora grepp. Kanske göra &A eller gå till ny marknad. Så jag tycker det är viktigt att man anpassar sig efter de olika bolagens situation. Anders Hermansson (35:02) Hur ofta? Erik (35:07) Man läser de där, men vi har blivit, om man tittar på de senaste tiden så har blivit mycket mer metodiska även under de första 100 dagarna. Hur vi onbordar och skapar en struktur i bolaget för att kunna växa. Det vill säga att vi sätter många av de här grundinvesteringarna, det är ER, PSS, TIEM eller sätter olika managementfunktioner på plats. Sätter rapporteringen på plats. Ofta de där sakerna måste vi göra de första 100-200 dagarna. Anders Hermansson (35:07) Öster. Just det. Erik (35:38) så att vi kan gasa på skalningen sen med tillväxt. Anders Hermansson (35:41) Jag tänkte fråga lite om styrmodell och sånt där. Har ni en som ni då tycks ha så här? Nu gör vi så här. För det kan ju vara en chock för en vd, en entreprenör som har drivit sin egen låda och sen kommer man P.E. ägd och så smäller det till med rapportering och sånt på ett betydligt mer strukturerat sätt än man kanske gjort förut. Erik (36:02) Det jag lärde mig 2012 när jag ute i min första eller den strukturerade processen där jag träffade 30 olika private equity spelare. var att jag var en entreprenör som körde väldigt mycket på. Jag jobbade ju väldigt mycket i marknaden och bland mina medarbetare, mina kolleger och hade ju väldigt mycket anekdoter. Jag tog ju mycket på kundinformation och medarbetare information. Jag hade full koll på marknaden, men jag hade inte lika bra koll. Anders Hermansson (36:29) Mm. Erik (36:32) Jag var inte lika datadriven, intent. Jag var väldigt fokuserad på kassaflödet och förutom faktura och de där bitarna och det brukar vara så på entreprenörer. Jag hamnade i en dd-process med en private equity och då boomade jag en forecast mitt i det arbetet. Och där jag boomade en del saker jag hade sagt med på anekdotstadie och magkänsla. Och där och då på sommaren svod jag att jag inte skulle hamna i den situationen igen. Så då skapade jag det, jag gick tillbaka och jobbade med mina rådgivare vid den tidpunkten. Jag gjorde modeller, gjorde bottom-up-analyser och gjorde ett ordentligt modellarbete för att ta fram affärsplan. Och det jag landade i var ett fullständigt rapportpaket på alla avdelningar. Så jag blev datadriven. Och det jag lärde mig där och då, det var att… Att kombinera den här kundnärheten, medarbetarnärheten, marknadsnärheten ihop med datan. var det som skapade dynamiken. Det det som skapade margin. Och det är nödvändigt för att ta de här bolagen till nästa nivå. Och ibland kan det vara en liten chock när man kommer in med en rapportpaket och säger, men det här måste vi plocka fram. Det är viktigt att… Men de… Nästan alla säger tack, god gul, att vi gjorde det här. att vi satt den här CIFO på plats, att vi skapade den här styremodellen och vi blev datadrivna. För två år senare när det har jämförelsetalen, du kan verkligen bli datadriven, du kan fatta besluten tillsammans med marknadskunskapen. Det där skapar margin och det skapar en stort värde för de här tillväxtbolagen. Och du måste göra det. Om du ska gå från startup till en scale-up. Du måste ta det steget. Det är en tydlig inflection point. Anders Hermansson (38:32) Just det. Ja, jag fattar. Bra poäng där. Det är väl många som vill bli datadrivna men man behöver nog en extern påverkan för att orka ta steget. För man känner ju att man kanske har örat mot marken i sin egen verksamhet. Det inte riktigt det som prioriteras då. Hur mycket styr och mycket coachar ni? Jag fattar inte situationsdrivet men det måste väl finns någon… Erik (38:54) som brukar vara. Anders Hermansson (39:01) Någon filosofi sådär. Erik (39:04) Jo, men det är väldigt mycket coaching. Jag har ju samtal med alla mina vd-ar flera gånger i veckan, men jag ett strukturerat, inbokat samtal med alla där vi har en tydlig agenda där vi går igenom. Och då är det ju, då kan man tycka att det är väldigt operativa frågor i mångt och mycket vi diskuterar. Men det små bolag, det går inte att säga hur många procent jobbar strategiskt, hur många procent jobbar operativt. Det där blandas hela tiden upp och ner i de här två frågorna. För att kunna vara… Jag brukar säga att lång sikt byggs upp av väldigt många kortsikt. Du måste dela upp det där och leverera mot dina kopier eller datapunkter varje dag. Och ska du få till den här strategiska förändringen så måste du få det hända kortsiktiga. Så att det handlar ju väldigt mycket om att det är mycket coachande där vi bollar saker och ting. Jag hamnat i den här kunds situationen. Vad tycker du? Hur ska vi göra? Lite erfarenhet i kunskap i den. Vi funderar på den här typen av funktionalitet i våra produkter. Hade skapat det här värdet för våra kunder? Ska vi göra det organiskt, inorganiskt? Hur ska vi skapa den förändringen? Och ibland handlar det om som en vd. med det här manodepressivet jag pratade om tidigare. Och för mig som ordförande handlar det ju väldigt mycket om att vara psykologen ibland. Ibland ska jag ju pusha när de känner sig för bekväma och ibland ska jag lugna ner dem när de är stressade. Och hela tiden var den där personliga, anledning till coachen som de kan hålla i handen. Som sitter på erfarenhet och kunskap. Anders Hermansson (40:51) Hmm. Just det. Erik (40:58) Nej, men jag tycker nog att det är extremt mycket kortskning där vi driver ett bolag tillsammans. Den här vi känslan är ju det viktiga. har ju inga tjänstemän som driver våra bolag i management, utan de har instrument, de är delägare i våra bolag. Vi sitter i samma båt, så går det bra för bolaget, så går det bra för dem och det går bra för oss. båtprincipen är jätteviktig för oss att vi gör det här tillsammans. Anders Hermansson (41:05) Mm. Mm. Mm. Erik (41:28) En. Anders Hermansson (41:30) Det är en ganska stor grej ju. De entreprenörer som jag har kontakt med och sådär. Att ge upp majoriteten till någon annan. Hur tänker ni och pratar ni om det där med… Erik (41:46) Det som jag har respekt för, för det är ju ens baby som man har levt med och man har skapat över många många år. Det är inte helt enkelt att överge den frågan. Det som är viktigt i det tycker jag är just det här att det tar tid att vilja känna varandra. Att en sån här process är en kvalificering för båda parter. Anders Hermansson (42:01) Nåååå Erik (42:12) Därför är viktigt att vårt renomi, vårt varumärke ute på marknaden är extremt viktigt för att entreprenörer ska våga släppa in oss i företaget, att lämna nycklarna till oss att vara med och driva det här företaget. sen är det så här, det funkar inte så. Det inte så att en entreprenör lämnar nycklarna till oss, för då har vi nästan failat hela det här. Utan vill inte management och entreprenörer vara med och driva det här bolaget tillsammans. Anders Hermansson (42:24) Mm. Erik (42:41) Då är inte vi heller med, utan det här är väldigt, väldigt mycket ömsesidigt att vi gör någonting tillsammans. Vi driver bolaget i partnerskap tillsammans och därför är så viktigt med den här dynamiken tillsammans så att. Antiponörerna och management de sitter ju på det jag pratar om tidigare. sitter på erfarenheten, domäne, expertisen, kundkontakten, medarbetarna. Allt det som är värdet i bolaget sitter de ju på. Sen. Anledningen till att vi måste ha majoritet är ju framför allt för att vi vill ha en koncentrerad, vi kan inte äga 150 bolag i vår portfölj. För vi har inte en organisation för att hantera det. Jag kan hantera sex bolag som ordförande, jag kan inte hantera fler. Vilket innebär att jag måste ha fler, eller vi måste ha fler liknande profiler som mig hela tiden. Så köper vi två bolag till så måste vi ha en som kan hantera de här två bolagen. På det sättet är inte vår modell särskilt skalbar. Det vill säga att vi måste anställa människor som bygger på det här. Bygger det här företaget. Och det som händer då, det är just den här dynamiken att de sitter på extremt mycket makt trots att de är minoritetsägare. Så det optimala vi söker är att vi äger någonstans mellan 55 till 80 procent. Anders Hermansson (43:50) Mm. Erik (44:09) Och så sitter management och entreprenörerna kvar med stor del. Det viktiga i det är ju att som jag pratade om båtprincipen, men ofta är ju exiten i nästa steg när vi säljer bolaget. När vi har tagit bolaget till 3, 4, 500 miljoner och vi vet hur man säljer ett bolag av den size till. Och vi har byggt upp ett nätverk med massa olika private equity spelare, strategiska köpare. Anders Hermansson (44:28) Mm. Erik (44:39) så knackar på dörren och tittar på våra bolag hela tiden. Vi tror oss veta att vi kan få bättre betalt för den typen av bolag än många andra. Så det är ju ett värde vi också levererar till våra entreprenörer och våra management team. Att man krokar arm och gör en resa tillsammans. Exiten i steg nummer två är minst lika viktig som exiten i steg nummer ett. Och vill man, man… Anders Hermansson (44:50) Mm. Jästän. Mm. Ja. Erik (45:07) Det viktiga är att man lär känna varandra över tiden. Anders Hermansson (45:10) Jag fattar. Om man nu är entreprenör och har sitt bolag och som du säger, hittade lite olika triggersteg inflection points där man började ta ett lite större, så att säga, okänt steg som en tydlig signal på att det kan vara smart att utvärdera i alla fall någon som Montero. Men vad skulle du säga? Vad skulle du ge för tips till en entreprenörer som då kanske äger mycket stor del av sin bolag tillsammans med övrigt management när de börjar tänka på det här med att ta in externa ägare. Erik (45:50) Till att börja med så ska du inte ens innan du börjar tänka tanken så tror jag du ska ändå kanske ta lite luncher och vara på din del event och lära känna lite av de här potentiella köparna som du tänker det hade kunnat vara en bra partner för lite. Kommer tillbaka till det jag sa. Det är en kvalificering för båda parter. Det inte så att du får göra det sex månader innan eller tolv månader innan utan du kan ha en dialog med många. Anders Hermansson (46:08) Mm. Erik (46:20) av oss, även mina kollegor i branschen, två, tre, fyra år och ta lite tips och råd på vägen. det är lite vår grej helt enkelt. Vi delar gärna med oss vår erfarenhet och kunskap för då får man testa lite det här, vilket värde vi levererar, vilket värde vi kan skapa för ditt bolag. Så det är det ena att vara lite mer långsiktig och kvalificera. Sen så tror jag att Anders Hermansson (46:27) Mm. Mm. Erik (46:50) Det låter kanske enkelt att men jag tror att kvalificera vad är det för någonting de kan leverera förutom pengar. För pengar är ganska lätt att få om du har ett fint bolag och det är lätt att lockas av vem som sätter högst prislapp på företaget. Men ofta är ju bolaget mer viktigt än så. Det vill säga Anders Hermansson (47:05) Mm. Ja, ja. Erik (47:20) Vad vill du att bolaget ska ta vägen? Vad vill du att medarbetarna ska ta vägen? Hur vill du att det ska utvecklas? Vill du vara med på resan framåt? Och hur kommer då bolagets andra exit eller hur ska bolaget utvecklas och ta vägen? Att bygga upp den planen tillsammans med en potentiell investerare. Det tror jag är en smart grej att göra. Anders Hermansson (47:35) Mm, jävlar. Just det, så att man inte ser Montero, vad heter det, intåget som ett slutstation, så att säga, utan det är ett steg på vägen någonstans. Erik (47:58) Exakt. Och att värderingarna mellan dig och en potentiell investerare är de är hyfsat likvärdiga och att ni kan funka bra tillsammans. Sen tror jag att ett misstag jag ser väldigt många är att de raisar pengar lite löpande, de tar in lite affärsänglar och så tar du in en affärsängel som köper 5 procent och så tar du in en som köper 7 procent och en 10 procent. Anders Hermansson (48:12) Mm. Ja, exakt. Erik (48:26) Och så VIP så har du en cap table med 60 namn där det inte betyder någonting för dem. Du kanske har fortfarande kontrollen över bolaget. Du kanske har sålt 30 procent eller 40 procent. Men det enda du måste göra är att hantera en massa aktieägavtal och du måste hantera en massa olika affärsänglar. Ska du göra det? Försök göra den här ägarlistan så kort som möjligt och göra det rejält. Det är också någonting jag tror på. Anders Hermansson (48:32) Ja precis. Mm. Mm. Erik (48:56) Återigen, gå inte bara på pengarna eller värderingen utan gå på det långsiktiga. Det kommer att vara värdeskapande för företaget över tid. Anders Hermansson (49:01) Mm. Det är jäkla bra avslutning men jag måste få ta ett varv till runt AI-grejen här. Det finns ju dom som säger att AI då är liksom… vad kallar man för? Sa… Sa… Sa… Gaddon eller någonting. liksom hela… Nej nej, varför ska vi hålla på köra på appar? Jag kan ju som vanlig användare bara promta fram det jag själv vill ha, att säga. Erik (49:17) Mm, stämmer. Anders Hermansson (49:26) Hur ser ni på… Vi pratade mycket om AI. När vi pratade tidigare så är AI en stor möjlighet i form av produktivitetsökning som är helt galen. Jag har ju pratat med andra mjukhårdbolag som säger att vi har slut på idéen nu. Den här product roadmapen åts upp i natt av mina 190 klådagenter som bara tuggar i sig den. Det är ena sidan av det. Fantastiskt. Med den följer ju… Då är en konkurrens situation när andra kan göra likadant om de har huvud på skraft. Men det här med liksom hur ser du att det påverkar möjligheterna för hela SAS-branschen vad det gäller att uppfinna värdeskapande bolag helt enkelt när så mycket av värdet numera inom olika områden kan pluppa ut ur chatgrippet till heliklod. Erik (50:19) Jag tror så här att man ska vara lite försiktig att klumpa B2B-software och SAS och sätta alla i en kamm. Det är väldigt stor skillnad mellan SAP och ett mjukfaderföretag som gör någon form av dashboard. Om man går tillbaka fem till tio år så var det ganska coolt att driva ett SAS-bolag som var Low Touch eller No Touch. Anders Hermansson (50:46) Mm. Erik (50:47) Du marknadsförande på webben, kunde betala mjukvaran med ett kreditkort och så bara drog du den. Och sen så en product led growth modell. Ja, tittar man lite på de bolagen idag som har kanske inte så affärskritiska. De kanske har lite svagt usage. De kanske inte har så många integrationspunkter. Stickiness är ganska lågt. jag pluggade i Lund, om vi går tillbaka till Lundatiden igen, så pratade man om bindningar. Tekniska bindningar, juridiska bindningar, sociala bindningar mellan företag. Antalet bindningar gör ju att man bygger stickiness. S och P, vi kan ta ett exempel med Lime egentligen. 2005 försökte jag sälja till Göteborgs energi. Anders Hermansson (51:26) Mm. Erik (51:41) Vi fick inte göra det. Vi omsatte 30 miljoner. Vi var för små och vi hade inte de processerna och policy som behövdes. 2012 försökte vi sälja till Göteborgsenergi igen. Det gick inte. Vi omsatte 100 miljoner. Vi hade inte isosatveringar eller liknande ITIL-processer på plats. 2026, för ett par månader sen, sålde vi till Göteborgsenergi. Nu omsätter vi över 800 miljoner, 550 anställda och har alla de där sakerna på plats. Att implementera Göteborgsenergi, att sälja till Göteborgsenergi tar flera år. Att implementera produkterna hos dem, alltså mjukvaran, kommer ta tolv månader kanske, 18 månader. Både Microsoft och Salesforce har gått bet på denna implementation, de misslyckats med denna implementation. Samma sak i ett energibolag nere i Tyskland. tar väldigt lång tid, är svåra implementationer, krävs mycket integrationer, mycket folk som är involverade. Och då det inte bara att ta data och migrera data eller att integrera, utan det handlar ju om en förändringsledning. få det här företaget att anamma ett förändringsarbetssätt, processer och rutiner. Och det är ju en jäkla skillnad på det företaget och den typen av produkter. Jämfört med Low Touch produkt. Så när vi sitter och tittar på investeringar och tittar på så försöker vi undvika den här typen av mjukvara som är mycket Low Touch, liten usage, hög könnivå som är lätt att kopiera och när de differenserar sig så pratar de om funktioner i produkten. Ja men funktioner i produkten har aldrig varit lättare att ersätta, att kopiera. Däremot Anders Hermansson (53:19) Mm. Mm. Hej då! Erik (53:37) att konkurrera med den andra delen om du har jobbat med enterprise och implementation, support, att du har andra saker som gör att du differentierar dig. De är ju mycket större mots, mycket större valggrava, mycket svårare att konkurrera mot. Så den typen av affärskritisk mjukvara med många antal bindningar och hög stickiness, den typen av bolag gillar vi. Anders Hermansson (53:51) Mm. Mm. Mm. Jastu. Erik (54:06) och som är affärskritiskt och hög användande i grad i bolagen. Anders Hermansson (54:10) Just det. Och där har man inte utsatt för att bli satt Erik (54:15) Det kommer ta mycket längre tid i alla fall att bygga den typen av företag för att komma tillbaka till det. Du måste bygga upp den erfarenheten kunskapen. måste ha kundreferenserna. Du måste bygga upp de där processerna. Du måste bygga en organisation. Det handlar om att bygga ett bolag och då räcker det inte med att min son sitter hemma och webcoda ett CRM system. Och det kommer det vara en del mindre företag. Anders Hermansson (54:24) Ja. Erik (54:40) kommer ha någon student inne eller någon duktig medarbetare som kan göra ett enkelt CRM system. Ja, och det kan man ju funka för en eller två eller tre användare. Men jag tror att de flesta företag inser att… Tittar du på trenden de senaste 30 åren så har vi gått ifrån att göra egenutvecklade mjukvaror till att köpa standardiserade mjukvara ifrån en leverantör för man vill ha någon som… Alltså så kan man hålla ansvarig för implementation, support, uppgradering och så vidare. Sen så jag tror inte den förändringen kommer svänga tillbaka. Jag tror inte bankerna kommer börja skriva egen ut med egen mjukvara, utan de vill ha en standardleverantör. Däremot kan det vara mindre bolag som lockas och det där för att spara lite pengar. Men jag tror över tid kommer det kosta mer pengar att förvalta den mjukvaran och jag tror att alla bolag Anders Hermansson (55:24) Mm. Erik (55:36) som har en sund affärsidé i grund och botten så kommer det vara mer lönsamt att driva sitt bolag och fokusera på den saken än att göra allt annat som en stödssystem till ens företag. Anders Hermansson (55:48) Ja, just det. Ja, men grymt. Erik, tack så jättemycket för alla bra insikter och inspel här. Det här är jätteinspirerande och jag hoppas att våra lyssnare uppskattar all din klogskap också. Tack så jättemycket för att du var med i Sälj Marknadspodden, måste jag säga. Erik (56:04) Tack Andes och tack alla ni som lyssnade. Anders Hermansson (56:07) Ja, grymt! Ha det så fint! Erik (56:10) Det samma. Anders Hermansson (56:11) Det var allt vi hade att bjuda på från Sälj och marknadspodden för den här gången. Jag hoppas verkligen att ni tyckte det var lika intressant och inspirerande som jag att lyssna på Erik. Det är alltid härligt med en person som har en så otroligt tung och gedigen erfarenhet och samtidigt är så villig att dela med sig av den. Både the good and the bad and the ugly. att säga. Underbart. Vi vill bara avsluta med vårt ständiga tips som kanske gäller nu mer än någonsin i dessa AI-tider. Vad ni gör där ute så ska ni vara relevanta. Hejdå! The post Podd #251 – Erik Syrén om att investera i bolag appeared first on Business Reflex.

In the latest episode of Digital Health Unplugged, host Jordan Sollof is joined at NHS ConfedExpo 2026 by Dr Peter Thomas and Kate Warriner for a deep dive into the proposed NHS single patient record (SPR). The government's NHS Modernisation Bill includes a requirement for all NHS providers to share patient data to create a SPR, which it says will help join up fragmented health information and improve access to patient records across care settings. Dr Thomas, director of digital development and consultant ophthalmologist at Moorfields Eye Hospital NHS Foundation Trust and Warriner, chief transformation and digital officer at Alder Hey Children's NHS Foundation Trust, discuss how a SPR could help both clinicians and patients. With concerns around the legislation forcing providers to share patient data, the pair explain how the NHS should balance easier access to information with patients' expectations around consent and control, before stressing the importance of leadership and governance to the success of the SPR. Finally, the guests highlight the technical barriers that still need to be overcome before a SPR can be created and set out what needs to have happened for the SPR programme to be considered a success five years from now. Guests: Dr Peter Thomas, director of digital development and consultant ophthalmologist at Moorfields Eye Hospital NHS Foundation Trust Kate Warriner, chief transformation and digital officer at Alder Hey Children's NHS Foundation Trust  

Tayne, host of Altar Call MAFS podcast, joins me to talk about all things Summer House! We also chat about the reality show that Peter Thomas is doing with the ex-husbands of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, the trailers for Next Gen NYC and McBee Dynasty and more! ACCESS AD-FREE, BONUS AND VIDEO EPISODES BY BECOMING A PATRON HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Tayne on⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ and listen to her⁠⁠⁠ ⁠podcast⁠⁠⁠ Follow me on⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Support the show⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The crew dug into reality‑TV tea around a rumored “Ex‑Husbands of Atlanta” spinoff tied to Todd Tucker, with chatter that familiar former husbands (including names like Apollo Nida and Peter Thomas) could be part of an intentionally “messy” post‑divorce spotlight—complete with talk of potential added drama if Simon Guobadia ever joins. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kicking off with the big headlines, the show covered Donald Trump flat‑out rejecting Iran’s latest response to a U.S. proposal to end the war, calling it “totally unacceptable,” while Benjamin Netanyahu warned the broader conflict isn’t truly “over” as long as key issues like enriched uranium and missile capabilities remain unresolved. On the entertainment and culture side, the crew dug into reality‑TV tea around a rumored “Ex‑Husbands of Atlanta” spinoff tied to Todd Tucker, with chatter that familiar former husbands (including names like Apollo Nida and Peter Thomas) could be part of an intentionally “messy” post‑divorce spotlight—complete with talk of potential added drama if Simon Guobadia ever joins. They also debated the latest Beyoncé speculation—on air it was framed as a near‑term new single/album rumor, but outside reporting notes her team has pushed back on claims of an imminent “Act III” rollout tied to the Met Gala buzz. And comedy fans got a big moment: Netflix’s live “Roast of Kevin Hart” was a star‑stacked spectacle—plus multiple reports highlight that Hart and Katt Williams used the night to publicly bury their long‑running feud. Website: https://www.urban1podcasts.com/rickey-smiley-morning-show See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

WhatsApp: Du kannst Alexander und Claus direkt auf ihre Handys Nachrichten schicken! Welche Ecke Englands sollten die beiden mal besuchen? Zu welchen Themen wünschst Du Dir mehr Folgen? Warst Du schon mal in Great Britain und magst ein paar Fotos mit Claus und Alexander teilen? Probiere es gleich aus: +49 8152 989770 - einfach diese Nummer einspeichern und schon kannst Du BRITPOD per WhatsApp erreichen. BRITPOD – England at its best. Ein ALL EARS ON YOU Original Podcast.„Hallo, hier spricht Edgar Wallace.“ Kaum ein Satz hat sich so tief in das deutsche Kinogedächtnis eingebrannt wie diese berühmte Stimme aus den Edgar Wallace Filmen der 1960er Jahre. Für eine ganze Generation wurde das neblige London mit Scotland Yard, düsteren Herrenhäusern und geheimnisvollen Verbrechern zum Sinnbild eines faszinierenden, gefährlichen und zugleich zutiefst britischen Englands. Ausgerechnet ein britischer Krimiautor entwickelte sich damals zu einem der größten Kultphänomene des deutschen Kinos. In dieser Folge BRITPOD – England at its best sprechen Alexander Klaus Stecher und Claus Beling gemeinsam mit Journalist und Filmkenner Thomas Voigt über Edgar Wallace, die legendären deutschen Wallace Verfilmungen und die besondere Faszination, die von diesen Filmen bis heute ausgeht. Warum traf ausgerechnet ein britischer Krimiautor den Nerv der deutschen Nachkriegsgesellschaft? Weshalb wurden Joachim Fuchsberger, Heinz Drache oder Eddie Arent zu Ikonen eines scheinbar britischen Kinos? Und warum funktionierte die Mischung aus Grusel, Humor und Ordnung so perfekt? Die Reise führt zurück in eine Zeit, in der Deutschland von England träumte. London wurde zur Projektionsfläche für Eleganz, Gefahr und Abenteuer, während Produzenten, Regisseure und Schauspieler in Berlin eine eigene britische Schattenwelt erschufen. Es geht um Klaus Kinski, um die legendäre Musik von Peter Thomas, um schwarz weiße Ästhetik, künstlichen Nebel und die erstaunliche Kreativität einer Filmreihe, die mit begrenzten Mitteln Kultstatus erreichte. Auch Edgar Wallace selbst steht im Mittelpunkt dieser Geschichte. Der Sohn einer Schauspielerin, aufgewachsen im Londoner East End, arbeitete als Journalist und Kriegsberichterstatter und schrieb mehr als 170 Romane. Seine Geschichten voller Tempo, Spannung und skurriler Figuren machten ihn zu einem der erfolgreichsten Autoren seiner Zeit und Jahrzehnte später in Deutschland zu einer beinahe mythischen Figur der Popkultur. Warum wirken die alten schwarz weißen Wallace Filme bis heute atmosphärischer als viele moderne Thriller? Weshalb wurde aus der Spree die Themse? Und was erzählen diese Filme über die deutsche Sehnsucht nach dem geheimnisvollen England der Nachkriegszeit? WhatsApp: Du kannst Alexander und Claus direkt auf ihre Handys Nachrichten schicken! Welche Ecke Englands sollten die beiden mal besuchen? Zu welchen Themen wünschst Du Dir mehr Folgen? Warst Du schon mal in Great Britain und magst ein paar Fotos mit Claus und Alexander teilen? Probiere es gleich aus: +49 8152 989770 - einfach diese Nummer einspeichern und schon kannst Du BRITPOD per WhatsApp erreichen. BRITPOD – England at its best. Ein ALL EARS ON YOU Original Podcast.

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Hot topics episode! I talk about last week's Southern charm episode, Denise Richards divorce updates, Peter Thomas being released from prison, some upcoming shows that I'm excited about, something I'm not proud of, and more! CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE ON PATREON! AD-FREE, BONUS AND VIDEO EPISODES BY BECOMING A PATRON HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me on⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The legend of Chris from Alabama continues as the man himself calls in to apologize for his epic rant—only to receive nothing but love and respect from the entire Packer Nation community. Callers from Tennessee, Minnesota, South Carolina, and beyond phone in just to thank Chris for saying what everyone was feeling, proving that sometimes the most unfiltered moments create the strongest connections. Liz from New York delivers a passionate takedown of Caleb Williams, calling out his arrogance and questioning whether the Bears' success has anything to do with his actual quarterback play Deep dive into new backup QB Kyle McCord's college stats, including his 90 PFF grade at Syracuse and what development under Matt LaFleur's quarterback coaching could look like Daniel from California sparks a transparency debate about the Packers organization keeping fans in the dark on coaching decisions and personnel moves DC search analysis covering concerns about Gannon's cringy motivation style and why Raheem Morris feels like recycled coaching all over again Jim Leonard interview mystery explored—why haven't the Packers done a virtual interview when they easily could? The calls keep rolling in as Peter Thomas announces a new baby, Nico from Idaho gets fired up, and the whole community rallies around what might be the greatest rant in show history. This episode is brought to you by PrizePicks! Use code PACKDADDY to get started with America's #1 fantasy sports app. https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/PACKDADDY To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/packernetpodcast Help keep the show growing and check out everything I'm building across the Packers and NFL world: Support: Patreon: www.patreon.com/pack_daddy Venmo: @Packernetpodcast CashApp: $packpod Projects: Grade NFL Players ➜ fanfocus-teamgrades.lovable.app Packers Hub ➜ packersgames.com Create NFL Draft Big Boards ➜ nfldraftgrades.com Watch Draft Prospects ➜ draftflix.com Screen Record ➜ pause-play-capture.lovable.app Global Economics Hub ➜ global-economic-insight-hub.lovable.app            

The legend of Chris from Alabama continues as the man himself calls in to apologize for his epic rant—only to receive nothing but love and respect from the entire Packer Nation community. Callers from Tennessee, Minnesota, South Carolina, and beyond phone in just to thank Chris for saying what everyone was feeling, proving that sometimes the most unfiltered moments create the strongest connections. Liz from New York delivers a passionate takedown of Caleb Williams, calling out his arrogance and questioning whether the Bears' success has anything to do with his actual quarterback play Deep dive into new backup QB Kyle McCord's college stats, including his 90 PFF grade at Syracuse and what development under Matt LaFleur's quarterback coaching could look like Daniel from California sparks a transparency debate about the Packers organization keeping fans in the dark on coaching decisions and personnel moves DC search analysis covering concerns about Gannon's cringy motivation style and why Raheem Morris feels like recycled coaching all over again Jim Leonard interview mystery explored—why haven't the Packers done a virtual interview when they easily could? The calls keep rolling in as Peter Thomas announces a new baby, Nico from Idaho gets fired up, and the whole community rallies around what might be the greatest rant in show history. This episode is brought to you by PrizePicks! Use code PACKDADDY to get started with America's #1 fantasy sports app. https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/PACKDADDY To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/packernetpodcast Help keep the show growing and check out everything I'm building across the Packers and NFL world: Support: Patreon: www.patreon.com/pack_daddy Venmo: @Packernetpodcast CashApp: $packpod Projects: Grade NFL Players ➜ fanfocus-teamgrades.lovable.app Packers Hub ➜ packersgames.com Create NFL Draft Big Boards ➜ nfldraftgrades.com Watch Draft Prospects ➜ draftflix.com Screen Record ➜ pause-play-capture.lovable.app Global Economics Hub ➜ global-economic-insight-hub.lovable.app            

RHOSLC is headed toward its reunion and reunion tea is spreading like wildfire in what seems to really be the last season for one of our snowflake holders. Crystal Kung Minkoff has a lot of theories about RHOBH this season but is anyone listening? West and Ciara grow closer. Carl and Venita grow closer. Ashley and Charrisse go another round. Peter Thomas slams Cynthia Bailey. Erika demands that Kyle be left alone. Sutton suffers a big loss. LVP stands by the new VPR cast. Kyle and Amanda's mess gets even dirtier. Last, but not least, Kathy Hilton weighs in on Kyle/ Erika's feud w/ Dorit.  @behindvelvetrope @davidyontef BONUS & AD FREE EPISODES Available at - www.patreon.com/behindthevelvetrope  BROUGHT TO YOU BY: MOMENTOUS - livemomentous.com (Use Code VELVET For 35% Off Your First Order on Creatine, Protein, Omega-3 Or Any Momentous Products) PROGRESSIVE - www.progressive.com (Visit Progressive.com To See If You Could Save On Car Insurance) ADVERTISING INQUIRIES - Please contact David@advertising-execs.com MERCH Available at - https://www.teepublic.com/stores/behind-the-velvet-rope?ref_id=13198 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gary & Shannon kick off with #SwampWatch, tackling the growing affordability crisis and how Democrats may use economic frustration as a weapon in the 2026 midterms — while questioning whether the media is downplaying how tough things really feel. They then check in with Heather Brooker and Michael Monks, reporting live from the iHeart holiday party that Gary & Shannon are, once again, missing out on. Marc Saltzman joins for #TechTalk to break down Time’s Person of the Year — the Architects of AI — and why their innovations are reshaping the future. The hour closes with a look at why so many people find unexpected comfort in the Forensic Files podcast, thanks in part to narrator Peter Thomas’s calming voice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Selbst George Clooney setzte bei seinem Regiedebüt auf die Klänge von Komponist Peter Thomas, geboren 1925. Ob Krimi, Komödie, Horror oder Western: Für jedes Genre hatte der Komponist den passenden Sound. Seine Soundtracks trenden heute noch auf Tiktok. Biermann, Ulrich www.deutschlandfunk.de, Kalenderblatt

Be Great: The Five Foundations of an Extraordinary Life in Business - and Beyond by Peter H. Thomas https://www.amazon.com/Be-Great-Foundations-Extraordinary-Business/dp/0615302572 https://www.instagram.com/peterhthomas_/ Peter Thomas has lived a tremendously successful and fulfilling life, despite personal tragedy and occasionally grave financial circumstances. He founded and built Century 21 Real Estate into the largest real estate network in Canada, and profitably spearheaded dozens of large-scale real estate developments all over North America. He has founded several more wildly successful businesses, the not-for-profit organizations LifePilot and the Todd Thomas Institute for Values-Based Leadership, flown a helicopter, dived to 850 feet in a submarine, and raced motorcycles. So why him? Peter Thomas doesn't believe he is a particularly gifted person or any smarter than the average man or woman in the street, but his achievements in business and philanthropy are world class. So what is the secret to building an exceptional life? The answer is that there are many paths to success, but what they all have in common is being true to the people on them, and you get to have to pick your own. Thomas shares his life, experience, and wisdom with you to illustrate his Five Foundations for achieving the life you want: Values: Clarify your personal values and live them. Focus: Understand the power of focus and how to apply it. Visualization: If you can picture your goal, you can work towards it. Inspiration: Celebrate the genius within you. Reflection: Tap into positive forces you control. For Peter Thomas, learning and applying these principles has brought him fame and fortune, aligned with a resolute conviction to help the less fortunate. There is no limit to what we are capable of achieving. Be Great is a manual for unlocking human potential.

It’s #TrueCrimeThursday in the Kingdom, and we’re back with another RealiTEA Crime Stories episode! This week, Carlos and Courtney dive into RHOA’s Peter Thomas... Unpacking the fraud allegations and why he’s currently in jail. From failing to pay employees to skipping out on the IRS, this one is as juicy as it gets. The bar tabs might have closed, but the consequences stay open!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Laci welcomes Eli Gonzalez (Bosch: Legacy, St. Denis Medical) to lie down and get cozy in a bed of TikTok lies. Eli shares his travel hack that Laci could've used during her restaurant employee days, they reminisce on taking improv classes together, and expose Peter Thomas, a former Real Housewives of Atlanta cast member and ex-owner of Bar One Baltimore. Finally, they dig into the conspiracy of med beds going viral on TikTok, costing people thousands for sci-fi-like life force energy. Stay schemin'! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAGKeep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at ScamGoddessPod@gmail.com.  Follow on Instagram:Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspodLaci Mosley: @divalaciEli Gonzalez: @eli_gonzzz Research by Kathryn Doyle  SOURCEShttps://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-64070190https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-qanon-conspiracy-involves-a-magical-bed-for-zombie-jfk/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/us/politics/far-right-miracle-cure-medbed.htmlhttps://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/comments/1f59dn1/how_did_medbeds_become_a_thing/https://www.yahoo.com/news/qanon-conspiracy-involves-magical-bed-084947430.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIwADEcUY9qM8gaeyUSJ-KgjbBgeOCeWkNtnjXdbFXDDf101h9-IAWhf2bYsRC1gjfEdZDknxU0fPTZhMr6AdAq1obsfW3v9NuXo_hUQINbod5SQG-94ZXB7ta-KX27UB1NnbyHDqHB3NIc26CFQvUr-wVflw9QMt83SNY4Yx10Z Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Scam Goddess ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

This week Kendrick Tucker joins me for a silly chat about Kendra (TikTok woman who fell in love with her psychiatrist), Trick Daddy, Love Island UK, Orleans Parish prison, Peter Thomas, Real Housewives of Miami reunion seating chart, literally one thing from Real Housewives of Orange County and more! The extended episode includes a chat about Big Brother and Joseline's Cabaret. ⁠ACCESS THE EXTENDED AND VIDEO VERSION OF THIS EPISODE BY BECOMING A PATRON HERE⁠⁠⁠ Follow me on⁠⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ Follow Kendrick on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and listen to his ⁠⁠podcast⁠⁠!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Every record collector has a secret stash of weird LPs, a bizarre stack of wax tucked away for safe keeping. The return of Lightning Licks Radio brings those strange selections out of the darkness of the basement and into the brightness of our turntables. Special guest Licker Jordan Pries, coproprietor of our local record store of choice Electric Kitsch, brings some stunning sonic oddities to the discussion. Let's get weird, Podcast America.Sonic contributions to the RETURN OF LIGHTNIN' LICKS RADIO podcast, episode forty-four, include: N.P.R. Please support National Public Radio. Beastie Boys, James Todd Smith, Too Poetic, Method Man, The Gravediggaz. Bobby Hebb, John Ussery, Brothers Johnson, De La Soul, Prince Paul, M.C. Eight, Redman, Migos. Eminem, Yelawolf, Wild Style, Lawrence Welk, Jo Ann Castle, Eddie Van Halen, Marcy Tigner, Benny Chong. Alain Goraguer, Madlib, Jay Dilla.Denzel Curry, Serge Gainsbourg. Inner Circle, Homeboy Sandman, John Wayne, Trey Parker, Matt Stone, John Mitchum, random standard USA patriotic marches. Public Enemy, Pete Seger, Hump the Grinder, Curtis Gadson, Sandy Bull, Homer Croy. Frank De Vol, Christopher Knight, Barry Williams, Susan Olsen, Mike Lookinland, Robert Reed, Florence Henderson, John Fahey. Arc of All, Abraham Jefferson, Errol Paul Reid, Ern Westmore, Recordings from the K.P.M. archives, Peter Thomas, Ronald Frank, Simon George Begg, A. P. Gall, Curtis Mooney, Alex Heffes. Francis Shaw, Keith Mansfield, Arch E. Roberts, Donald J. Trump & his J6 insurrectionists, Tony Kinsey, George Fenton, Kenneth Freeman. Louis Ridgway, Wayne Fischer, Hank Williams, John Weissrock, various Christian organ standards and hymnals, The Langley Schools Project, Brian Wilson, D.J. Shadow. The Doug Wood Band, The Titans, The Larks, Ru Paul, Joe Maphis, Z.Z. Top, The Del Vikings, rad sound effects of drag cars, go-karts, and speed boats. The De-Fenders, random archived educational films, Massive Internal Complications, The Doors, The Doobie Brothers, Nicolette Larson, The Templeton Twins with Teddy Turner's Bunson Burners, Blood Sweat and Tears, The Beatles, Jose Feliciano, Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio's Four Seasons with Frankie Valli, Harry Nilsson. Electric Light Orchestra, The Lustful Sex Life of a Perverted Nympho Housewife, heart recordings, Kesha, John Burt & Dave Corbin, Doctors Jack and Rexella (Oh, Rexella!) Van Impe, Robin Williams, Johnny Carson, X.T.C., Dusty Springfield, Adrian Quesada, The Source of Light and Power, The Clockers, The Outlaw Blues Band, Cheech & Chong, and Childish Gambino.The mixtape is bananas. Good fucking luck.A) Vroom-Vroom. Insects. Jesse James. Gospel Train. Beauty Exercises. John Wayne's Amerikkka.B) The United Nations & the New World Order. Sex & Rock-N-Roll. Light My Fire. Church Organ. Drugs. Fin.WATCH La Planette Sauvage ON VIMEO HEREListen to the mixtape on Soundcloud here! (if necessary)

This week I'm joined by Tayne (host of the Altar Call MAFS podcast) and we get into all of the things! We discuss Denise Richards' divorce, Tom Girardi going to prison and Peter Thomas not going to prison, some people who announced they won't be returning to their respective shows, the Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion, Real Housewives of Orange County, Love Island USA and more! The extended episode includes discussion of Real Housewives of Miami, Next Gen NYC and Love Island UK. ACCESS THE EXTENDED AND VIDEO VERSION OF THIS EPISODE BY BECOMING A PATRON HERE⁠⁠ Follow me on⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠ Follow Tayne on⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and listen to her⁠ ⁠podcast⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

MTMJ W/the Wife recounts a terrible experience at the Baltimore Comedy Factory. K. Michelle also cooks Tamar Braxton on Cam Newton's podcast, and the pod host reacts to it. The podcast also highlights Joycelyn Savage's continued support for R. Kelly, despite her parents' concerns for her well-being. Additionally, Joycelyn's parents believe a video posted by her was generated using AI. That same week, we learned that R. Kelly's request for home confinement was denied, and we discuss the reasons behind it. Simon Guobadia reveals details about Porsha Williams and her divorce in his latest interview, and Peter Thomas defends Simon Guobadia with an Instagram live revelation that leads to a deeper discussion on relationships and reality television. The podcast also discusses the recent decision to officially indict Karmelo Anthony on first-degree murder charges. We react to a wild story time from an Instagram account about using your girlfriend's car to show off for another woman. Tiffany Haddish's guest on a podcast, Women With Two Baby Daddies, leads us into a deeper discussion about good parenting habits. Malika Haqq believes deadbeat dads deserve to fight in war, and we discuss other interesting topics. Become a Patreon of the mtmj poDcast w/the wife for bonus episodes and visual content. Join our Patreon Here: https://patreon.com/MTMJPodcastwiththewife?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink

This week, the gals question everything they've ever learned from Peter Thomas. Topics include some crunchy crime scenes, plaid shirt probability, and a bunch of blood spatter banter. Get your hands on some Evidence Wines, fingerprint your coworkers, and tune in for Fickle Forensics. For a full list of show sponsors, visit https://wineandcrimepodcast.com/sponsors. To advertise on Wine & Crime, please email ad-sales@libsyn.com or go to advertising.libsyn.com/winecrime.

The Stuph File Program Featuring Peter Thomas Pontsa, author of Sanctity Of Freedom; Joseph Bolton, author of Old Grandmother's Tree; & Albert Bramante, author of Rise Above The Script: Confronting Self Doubt And Mastering Self Sabotage For Performing Artists Download Peter Thomas Pontsa is the author of another Inspector William Fox mystery. This one is called Sanctity Of Freedom. Joseph Bolton is a storyteller of folk tales called Old Grandmother's Tree. He's an American with deep Canadian roots, and he shares some of the stories of his ancestors. Albert Bramante is a veteran talent agent, plus he has a PhD in psychology and he's the author of Rise Above The Script: Confronting Self Doubt And Mastering Self Sabotage For Performing Artists. This week's guest slate is presented by Aaron Smith, author of Natural Born! Circus, Sideshow And The Art Of Being Human. He was featured on show #0812.

Enjoy a fun and exciting milestone annually while working on your business. Today's featured author is retired dental entrepreneur, black belt martial artist, and avid British sports car enthusiast, Peter Thomas Pontsa. Peter and I had a chat about his book, "Outfoxed: An Inspector William Fox Adventure", the importance of realism in fiction, Chump Car Racing, and more!! Key Things You'll Learn: How he stumbled into the dental business and transitioned to writing fiction novels after retiring Why Peter decided to go the hybrid publishing route with his first novel Peter's advice for aspiring authors Peter's Site: https://peterthomaspontsa.com/ Peter's Book: https://a.co/d/8jQp1TK The opening track is titled "Money Trees" by the magnanimous chill-hop master, Marcus D (@marcusd). Be sure to visit his site and support his craft. https://marcusd.net/ Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmon Donate on PayPal: @DBrightmon Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmon Get Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You May Also Like… Ep. 671 – "The Last Ark" with Guy Morris (@guymorrisbooks): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-671-the-last-ark-with-guy-morris-guymorrisbooks/ Ep. 631 – "Enigma Tracer" with Charles Breakfield, MBA (@EnigmaSeries): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-631-enigma-tracer-with-charles-breakfield-mba-enigmaseries/ Ep. 628 – "Inside the Secret World of Corporate Spying" with Robert Kerbeck (@robertkerbeck): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-628-inside-the-secret-world-of-corporate-spying-with-robert-kerbeck-robertkerbeck/ Ep. 410 – "Research Scientist Turned Urban Fantasy Author" with Kristi Charish (@kristicharish): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-410-research-scientist-turned-urban-fantasy-author-with-kristi-charish-kristicharish/ Ep. 340 – "A Single Light" with Tosca Lee (@ToscaLee): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-340-a-single-light-with-tosca-lee-toscalee/ Ep. 332 – "Her Perfect Life" with Hank Phillippi Ryan (@HankPRyan): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-332-her-perfect-life-with-hank-phillippi-ryan-hankpryan/ Ep. 355 – "One London Day" with Chris Humphreys (@HumphreysCC): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/355-one-london-day-with-chris-humphreys-humphreyscc/ Ep. 714 – "Drink Wine and Be Beautiful" with Kimberly Noel Sullivan (@KimberlyinRome): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-714-drink-wine-and-be-beautiful-with-kimberly-noel-sullivan-kimberlyinrome/ Ep. 679 – "Rock Gods & Messy Monsters" with Diane Hatz (@dianehatz): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-679-rock-gods-messy-monsters-with-diane-hatz-dianehatz/ Ep. 598 – "An Awakening" with Shiva Kumar (@shivaarc1242): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-598-an-awakening-with-shiva-kumar-shivaarc1242/ Ep. 320 – "See Your Life As a Movie" with Bob Brill (@BobBrillLA): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-320-see-your-life-as-a-movie-with-bob-brill-bobbrillla/ Ep. 351 – "The Gift Legacy" with JP McLean (@jpmcleanauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-351-the-gift-legacy-with-jp-mclean-jpmcleanauthor/

Ever wondered what it's like for alumni to come back to campus, not as students but as faculty and staff? In this episode of From Inside the Web, we highlight the stories of Spider alumni who have returned to their alma mater to support the University of Richmond community. Join us as we chat with Lauren Withrow, '07, Kim Dean-Anderson, '97, Peter Thomas, '07, and Taylor Hoogsteden, '20 about their journeys from students to professionals. From assisting in the library to fostering civic engagement, coaching basketball, and creating vibrant student programs, these alumni share how their Richmond roots continue to shape their work and their lives.Music by Wahyuddin and sound effects from Pixabay. This episode was edited and produced by Maggie Johnson, '18, Associate Director of Regional and Young Graduate Engagement. 

This week there's a lot of Bravo news and I get into ALL of it. I talk about Karen's trial, Peter Thomas going to prison, the Summer House trailer, why Phaedra and Pavit are pissing me off, some casting decisions, Craig's lies, Jamie Foxx, fake apologies and more!BECOME A PATRON by clicking ⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠Follow me on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SUPPORT THE SHOW by clicking⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!

References Guerra, DJ 2024. Biochemistry lectures de novo. Zevon, W. 1980. "Empty Handed Heart" https://open.spotify.com/track/2jqAdzGsLts2SPcDxNjqGJ?si=a3d0cf83804641c3 Manfred Mann [solo], Colin Pattenden, Peter Thomas .1976 "The Road to Babylon" https://open.spotify.com/track/7cUBAZwaFjPkdEkFMAGy7Y?si=210544d489544d29 Haydn, Michael. 1794. Excerpts from his Catholic Masses https://open.spotify.com/album/67v4gHJdnVWAn4erEtbuIc?si=3FHMYbRGQJaTHGbqYHHo8Q --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dr-daniel-j-guerra/support

This is our last episode of 2024, we will be back in January. To all our listeners, have a very Merry Christmas and a safe and Happy New Year! In this week's episode: --Peter Thomas sentenced. --NY Dems protect CEO's, everyone else can kick rocks --Jamie Foxx assaulted at birthday dinner. --Bow Wow gives relationship advice (no, really) --Democrats are losers --Racists worried about birth rates --Gisele Pelicot case comes to a close. --And more…

IT'S ONCE AGAIN WEEKLY WRAP-UP (AND KAREN HUGER DUI BODYCAM WATCH ALONG) TIME!!! WEEKLY reminder: the newest addition to the podcast feed is the WEEKLY WRAP-UP with EMILY HANKS! Most of you know that we do a live show on YouTube every single Sunday (which soooo many of you tune in live for), but it's time to bring this to the main feed for those of you who miss the lives or aren't able to watch live! Each Sunday, we cover a week's worth of hot topics (usually different from the ones I cover on my own podcast). This week, we talk: Blake Lively suing Justin Baldoni, Tom Sandoval's WEIRD Instagram live, Alexis Bellino's employment status at Bravo, Peter Thomas headed to THE BIG HOUSE, DJ James Kennedy confirmed as TRASH, and OF COURSE… the release of Karen Huger's DUI footage, which we did a watch along to. Listen to “She's Speaking with Emily Hanks” podcast on Apple Podcasts! Listen to “She's Speaking with Emily Hanks” podcast on Spotify! Follow Emily on Instagram! Subscribe to Emily's YouTube channel, where we go live every single Sunday!   SPONSORED BY: RO Go to ro.co/kendrick and browse memberships that start at just $99 for your first month. Medication costs are separate.   *** HEY! Some of you have asked how you can show your appreciation for all the content provided by your mama's favorite Black geek. How about you buy me a beer/coffee? CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT! ***   New episodes of “I Ken Not with Kendrick Tucker” are released weekly!   DON'T FORGET TO SUBSCRIBE, RATE, AND REVIEW! I LOVE 5 STARS! EMAIL ME AT IKENNOTPODCAST@GMAIL.COM! FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THIS WEEKS WRAP UP: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:19:11 Tom Sandoval and Victoria Lee drama 00:25:37 Alexis Bellino out on RHOC 00:37:00 Peter Thomas going to jail 00:40:52 James Kennedy and Ally Lewber update 00:45:56 Blake Lively lawsuit against Justin Baldoni 00:53:36:54 Karen Huger DUI video watch along GET YOU SOME MORE KENDRICK! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-ken-not-with-kendrick-tucker/id1525311067?i=1000653884007 Follow him on Instagram - @withkendricktucker https://www.instagram.com/withkendricktucker/ SPONSOR: Beverly Hills MD Go watch the video at https://bhmd1.com/speaks  SPONSOR: Shipstation Get a 60-day free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/shespeaks Thanks to ShipStation for sponsoring the show! SPONSOR: Pretty Litter Go to https://PrettyLitter.com/shespeaks to save 20% on your FIRST order and a FREE cat toy. SPONSOR: Quince Go to https://Quince.com/shespeaks to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. NEW MERCH! Check out the new official merch for She's Speaking @ shesspeaking.co   WEIGHT LOSS CODE Go to https://regenics.com/?ref=4889 and use code EMILY10 for 10% off! MY AMAZON SHOP https://www.amazon.com/shop/shesspeakingwithemilyhanks JOIN THE PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/shesspeaking Scripted shows + Old school reality tv Early Release of Every Episode No Ads! Community Interaction! Exclusive Content! SUBSCRIBE TO MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxspMsBruMQjN265ZGNoV1A BUY ME A COFFEE - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/shesspeaking FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL: @shesspeakingwithemilyhanks Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shesspeakingwithemilyhanks TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@shesspeakingwithemily Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/shesspeakingwithemilyhanks/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textToday,  We do a deep dive of the RHOP Grand Dame, Karen Huger DUI arrest, the tea she dropped was good she was Thomas Jefferson's concubine? You have to hear it for yourself. Also I am sent tea, she is getting a divorce. This makes me think of Peter Thomas from RHOA and RHOP final punishment. I share how horrific it is.  I give you some Miami tea, I have only spoken about in bonus audios here. I talk about the Hilton Christmas and Kim Richard's trust issues with the family and why rehab has been such a struggle. Then we discuss the behind the scenes gossip Alexis Bellino spilled about RHOC S17 ending with a real fight with Tamra and Heather. Funny Tamra came out saying she was responsible for why the show has the highest ratings in 5 years surrounding it.  We discuss the Anderson Brother's Twins of wealth sex trafficking and rape case.  I just called them before they were arrested!  I wish we could have Mauricio's take on them.  Kourtney Kardashian doesn't seem to be that good of a stepmom to Alabama since she slept with Bad Bhabie's loser boyfriend while he just had a baby and she has cancer. I kind of feel a Kardashian pattern with men continuing here.  I start from the beginning of this feud and tie it to Dr Phil, which might explain why Kim Richard's didn't want to go to the rehab he wanted to  send her too (prev segment). Also, the breaking code silences scandal with Paris Hilton. Andy Cohen's weird RHONJ press response and some things I have heard. Mauricio's model won't stay; he isn't rich enough. Lisa Vanderpump on Producing The Valley. We finally can guess who RHONY Brynn Whitfield's sugar daddy is now and she is not quitting. This and more on today's show.Support the showDana is on Cameo!Follow Dana: @Wilkey_Dana$25,000 Song - Apple Music$25,000 Song - SpotifyTo support the show and listen to full episodes, become a member on PatreonTo learn more about sponsorships, email DDDWpodcast@gmail.comDana's YouTube Channel

This week there's a lot of Bravo news and I get into ALL of it. I talk about Karen's trial, Peter Thomas going to prison, the Summer House trailer, why Phaedra and Pavit are pissing me off, casting changes, Rebecca vs Brynn, Craig's endless lies, Jamie Foxx, fake apologies and more! BECOME A PATRON by clicking ⁠HERE ⁠⁠⁠Follow me on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUPPORT THE SHOW by clicking⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!

Hey Friends! This week we talk about Karen Huger's being found GUILTY of a DUI, Peter Thomas is sentenced to 18 months in prison, we have a fun Chocolate Cake debate and in the spirit of Christmas we discuss favorite Christmas songs. Have you ever wondered why? Food delivery workers sometimes steal the food? In the reality round-up we talk RHOBH, RHONY, RHOP, M2M, and MAFS.

House rejects Trump-backed plan on government shutdown, leaving next steps uncertain. Congress races to fund federal government before deadline: Here's what staying open and closing. RHOA alum Peter Thomas hit with 18-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to failure to pay trust fund taxes/ Luigi Mangione appears in NY court, faces federal charges including stalking, murder. CA's lemon law is changing and car buyers have fewer protections in the new year.

Hot Topics: Karen Huger has been found guilty of DUI and the body cam footage is WILD. Peter Thomas sentenced to 18 Months in federal prison for tax evasion. Jay Z & Tony Buzbee update. James Kennedy update.Greg's Recs for the week: Paris & Nicole The Encore. Red One. MTV Challenge 40.Demetria's Recs for the week: No Good Deed. Enigma with Aaron Rodgers. The Ultimatum.Follow Us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/escapingrealitypodcast/

Our latest episode of Welcome to Cloudlandia offers an intimate look at the Genius Network annual event in Scottsdale, featuring extraordinary conversations with prominent figures like Bobby Kennedy, Jordan Peterson, and Tucker Carlson. We explore the unexpected appointment of Robert Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services and share insights from a key OpenAI representative, examining how technology subtly maintains existing societal structures. The episode delves into the evolving nature of professional gatherings, highlighting the power of meaningful connections over traditional networking. We discuss the intricate art of event planning, sharing personal strategies for managing commitments and overcoming challenges like ADD. Our conversation reveals the importance of structured scheduling and intentional approaches to daily productivity. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS I reflected on our experiences at the Genius Network annual event in Scottsdale, where notable figures like Bobby Kennedy, Jordan Peterson, and Tucker Carlson contributed to the discussions. The appointment of Robert Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services was an unexpected but significant topic of conversation during the event. We discussed the role of technology in maintaining the status quo, drawing parallels to historical innovations like the "horseless carriage." The importance of networking and making meaningful connections was emphasized, highlighting how such interactions often hold more value than the content itself at events. Organizing large events requires meticulous logistical planning, often years in advance, to manage various commitments and schedules. I shared insights on managing ADD through structured schedules, which serve as an essential tool in overcoming daily challenges. The humorous dynamics of Robert Kennedy's collaboration with Donald Trump were explored, alongside lighter topics like meal planning and scheduling. We reflected on aging and the limitations it imposes, while discussing strategies to remain active and maintain cognitive health. The episode highlighted the challenges of maintaining personal ambitions and adapting to changes as we age. The podcast wrapped up with reflections on the role of technology and the evolving nature of political and personal dynamics in today's world. Links: WelcomeToCloudlandia.com StrategicCoach.com DeanJackson.com ListingAgentLifestyle.com TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Dean: Mr Sullivan. Dan: Yes, mr Jackson, and I hope it will be copied. I hope it will be copied and sent virally around the world, this podcast. I hope, millions. Dean: To all the corners of Clublandia. Dan: Yes, yes. Dean: Yes, well, what a whirlwind tour for both of us here, I think. Where are you? Are you back in Toronto right now? Dan: Next to the fireplace. Dean: Okay, I like that. Dan: That's great, which is needed today. It's getting cool. I'm going to be. Dean: I like it, but I like it. I'm coming up on Friday, I think. Dan: This week Yep and then return to be yeah, I think this week, yep, and then return to be yeah, I'm coming, I'll be in Argentina. Yeah, yeah, next week I'll be in. Dean: Argentina Right, yeah, I'm doing, I'm coming up on Friday, I'm doing a breakthrough blueprint on Monday, tuesday, wednesday, and then we have coach the following Monday, tuesday, right. Dan: Yeah, and I'm flying back on friday night from argentina, so I won't be um back in my house, probably till about three o'clock on saturday. Dean: so oh my goodness, so we're gonna miss our table time yeah, I'll see you on sunday. Dan: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but some things come in front of other things. Dean: Exactly right, I have three ideas this week. Dan: I have three ideas this week. I was just going to say where do we start? Dean: We should probably mention that we just got back from Scottsdale and Joe's annual event, the Genius Network annual event, which was really another level. I mean, he's really gone above and beyond and on Saturday he pulled off something I don't think anybody's been able to pull off. He had Bobby Kennedy and Jordan Peterson and Tucker Carlson and Cali Means all on the same stage and I'll tell you what he has really grown as a conversationalist I don't even want to call him an interviewer because it was really, you know, that level of he's just the right amount of curious and unpredictable in the conversation that it's fascinating. He's not asking them the stock questions that would come. You know that you would expect, but it was amazing. I think everybody was very, was very impressed with how the event went off yep, yeah, I. Dan: The takeaway for me one is that we saw robert kennedy on saturday and then on on Wednesday, was it? Or Thursday? Wednesday, I think it was Wednesday he was appointed the secretary of health. Yes, human service, human services, and I think that's a big deal. Dean: I do too. It's, yeah, very, very impressive. Yeah, you know what's funny about that event is that the you know impressive. You know what's funny about that event is that we also had the head of GoToMarket for OpenAI, which was kind of like a that's a pretty big role, but it was downplayed by Zach Cass. Zach Cass, the guy that spoke oh, were you there on Sunday? He spoke on Sunday morning. No, we came there on Sunday. He spoke on Sunday morning. No, we came home on Sunday. Oh, okay, that's why. So, yeah, so the head of go-to-market, one of the original guys for OpenAI, was there and it was so funny that became. You know, he was kind of like the undercard, if you want to call it that, right, oversadowed by the blockbuster Saturday, but he himself was that's a pretty, that's a pretty big get to have too. So, very, very interesting. Dan: He was like in the 10th race at Woodbine you know the sore horses race later. Dean: So well, I had three, three ideas. Dan: Well, first of all, I had a nice introduction by Joe to Jordan Peterson. It turns out that he lives about a four-minute drive from us in the beaches oh wow, that's amazing. We're going to get together and he and his wife invited us to their Christmas party. So Christmas party, yeah, very, you know, very lively, engaging, smart, good sense of humor and everything. I enjoyed meeting him, but I had three ideas that I've been pondering all week. Okay, and more and more, I think that the humans use technology to keep things the same I think you're right, and even referring to it as the thing it's replacing. Dean: I remember hearing that about when automobiles first came out. They were called them horseless carriages. Right that, that's really what the thing was. Our only, our only frame of reference for the new is in how it relates to the past. Dan: Or relates to the present. Yeah, the present, that's what I mean, yeah, and if our present is under threat, we will adapt a new technology to keep ourselves more or less where we were. Yeah, and I've just been pondering this this is not a major thought, but it's a side thought that thought that we use technology to keep things the same. And what was the side thought now? Well, that was a quick one, that was a quick one. That one just flew out of my head, but I had a second thought too, and I was watching a really interesting podcast yesterday with Peter Thiel, who you know, and you know one of the co-creators of PayPal. One of the co-creators of PayPal and he's the creator of Planteer, which is a deep, dark, secret R&D lab for the government. And Barry Weiss, who was a columnist for the New York Times, who was let go because she started exhibiting independent thoughts. Dean: I hate it when that happens. Dan: Well, you know, you just can't be doing that at the New York Times. You really have to go with the party thoughts. You know the thoughts. But he was saying that what the election sort of indicated for him, election sort of indicated for him the presidential election of last week, was that in the internet world it's almost impossible to be a successful hypocrite. And that is if you say something to this group and then go across the street and say a completely different thing to another group that you used to be able to get to the, maybe not across the street but, let's say, cities 300 miles apart or anything you could get away with. You could get away with it, but the internet now makes that more or less impossible. It's increasingly difficult to be a hypocrite. You know where you try to play both sides of an issue. Dean: Yeah, well, because the internet is very, they love to identify and call those out. I mean, I remember I mentioned to you that Kamala, you know, there was a video going around that was Kamala speaking out of both sides of her mouth about Hamas and Israel. And yeah, I mean, it was just, you know, because they were running the ads in different thinking they would get away with it, because they're running one in Pennsylvania and one in Michigan or wherever. Dan: Yeah, right, that would be great, that would be a good thing. Yeah, and I was thinking the fact that almost all the celebrities that came out in her favor were to do so. Mm-hmm. Dean: Oh, yeah, like. Dan: Oprah got a million to do an interview with her. Beyonce, I've heard, got 10 million just to show up at a rally 10 million. Didn't have to do anything. Dean: That's wild, isn't it? Dan: Yeah, and she had a billion dollars to spend and she ended up 20 million in debt Over. Oh man. Dean: Yeah, in debt. Dan: Yeah, but if that had been done 20 years ago, that might not have been discovered as quickly, maybe not at all. It might not have been discovered at all. So it's just getting very difficult to be a hypocrite. I mean, you used to be able to make a lifetime career out of being a hypocrite, and now it wouldn't last more than 24 hours. Dean: Yeah, I remember. Dan: It's a career with a short future. Dean: Yeah, there was a meme going around about listing the people who had endorsed Donald Trump, joe Rogan and Elon Musk and Bob Kennedy and all these people, and then it was the people who endorsed Kamala was the Diddy List, you know so funny. Dan: Yeah, so my first. So I've had three thoughts. First one was technology. We use technology to keep things the same. Number two it's getting more difficult to be a hypocrite. Number three is I've discovered what the greatest individual ambition can be. Tell me To be more ambitious. Dean: It's the gift that keeps on giving. Dan: Yeah. Dean: That's the number one. Dan: Just next year, just next year. Be more ambitious. Be more ambitious next year than you are this year, and that's all you have to handle. It'll take care, it's the one goal that takes care of everything. I don't want to own just the land that's next to mine yeah, yes, because that I've given a lot of thought to goals, but almost all of them they're one and done, you know yeah you've achieved the goal and then you know, then it's gone. But uh, if your, your ambition is simply to be always more ambitious, I think that handles a lot of endings. Dean: Yeah, absolutely. I think that's funny. It's almost like a cheat code you know, I think that's great. I see, there's a. I mean, what a never-ending like a perpetual improvement cycle improvement cycle. Dan: Yeah, well it's, it's always. It's a kind of interesting thing because I'm trying to figure myself out at ajd that I've got bigger things I'm working. I've got bigger things I'm working on. I'm I'm working, working with people who are doing bigger and bigger things and you know and everything else, and I said what accounts for, and I said your ambition is to be more ambitious. Dean: Well, that's your print, right, your print is. Dan: Well, it's seven. Three, I mean it's three is success and achievement Right? Seven, seven, you have seven. It's enjoying life and having a good time. Dean: Yeah, bigger parties, yeah, bigger parties. Dan: Yeah, revenues, bigger parties. Dean: Bigger revenues. Dan: bigger parties, that's fantastic. Dean: I love it. Dan: So anyway, I'm going to do a triple play on those three and see what I come up with. I think there's, but I just feel that things are really shifting. I think there's, but I just feel that things are really shifting. I got a sense that, yeah, peter, peter Thiel very bright, very bright very very thoughtful, very thoughtful person and but he had a comment that he thinks that Bud Light. You know, remember the Bud Light. He thinks that was the end of the 20th century. He said that at that moment, the 20th century ended and the 21st century began. And he said that he feels that the Democrats are now the Bud Light Party. Dean: Oh man, well, and so that, yeah, I mean. Dan: You wonder now Well, you think about it that the reason that got them thrown out of power is the reason why they won't learn anything from getting thrown out of party, because they feel superior, intellectually superior morally superior and that would prevent them from actually saying well, maybe you are not Right, but your sense of superior prevents you from realizing that maybe you're not. They've kind of twisted themselves into a knot. Yeah, because I'm. You know, I watch the replays on. You know that they have an article, but then they'll have a link to a video. And Real Clear Politics is my favorite video and on real clear politics is my favorite, and you go on and you could just tell that the Democratic Party right now is very disappointed with American citizens. Dean: They're very disappointed. Dan: They're very disappointed with the quality of citizens in the United States right now and they're saying how do we get a different kind of voter? What we need is a different kind of voter. It's very clear that the kinds of voters we have right now are not delivering. Dean: We need more. Dan: Yeah, let's get some more Vansuelen gang members in here. Dean: Oh man. So what was your insights or thoughts from the Genius Network annual event? You're not a notetaker. No, me neither. I'm exactly like that. I know that whatever insight I get, if it's strong enough to stay with me, that's the insight you know. Dan: Well, my big one and you already brought it up in the conversation. I told Joe at dinner that you know we had the dinner on Saturday night and I said I think you've just jumped 10 times I said I think what you did, today is a 10 times jump and I said tomorrow morning what you did today is going to feel normal to you. Dean: And to everyone else. I think that's really the great thing. You know, like his whole and he said it too each year his goal is to make it a better event than the last, and so that's very yeah, that's very interesting. Dan: Yeah, the other thing is that I kind of told him this was last year, so this was the annual meeting for last year, and when he invited Robert Kennedy Jr last year. I said to him I just want you to know whether you've just entered the political world when you make an invitation like this, whether you like it, you know whether you like it or not, or whether you agree or not, you're now in the political world. Dean: So you got to be aware of that, yeah, and even though and even though Jordan Peterson, not per se political, but certainly in a different, not business like you know, the events have evolved from you know almost all business, like you know marketing and you know entrepreneur type of things more to a different level of event. It's interesting, I was looking through, but it's magic what happens actually at the event. It's not about the content of the event. It's being in the room surrounded by the Genius Network and I think I really got on another level, the purpose of the annual event versus the meetings, the yearly or monthly meetings, and you know it was very. I had a gentleman from Toronto who actually sat beside me on the first day and you know he was there primarily for the business stuff. The marketing really needed that help and you know I had to kind of help reframe that because if that was the number one reason you were there, there wasn't a lot of that at the actual event, you know. But what there was and this is what we said is that but we got to meet and that's, you know there's, that's part of the thing is that's the, that's the way to get that, what you actually need you know, yeah, yeah, anyway, it's just interesting. Dan: I think the first one I ever went to was in new york yeah, right the annual meeting I think he had. Joe had a couple of those in new New. York, yeah, and then, and then he had one in California, two two in. California actually he had the one where Richard Branson came yeah by uh, hollywood it was, I think it was actually it was in. Yeah, yeah, I always remember he had that. And then the second one was at Pelican Hill down in Newport. Dean: Beach. Dan: Newport, right yeah, and then they moved them to Scottsdale. And that was the right place. Dean: Yeah, it really is. It's perfect, it fits. And this one how convenient was this? Right across the street from his house. Dan: Yeah, how convenient was this? Right across the street from his house? Yeah, and we're doing the summit, the Free Zone Summit, right across the street from where we were. Dean: Right next door. Dan: Desert shadows right across the street. Yeah yeah, scottsdale really works. I mean, you can get there on a single flight from almost anywhere. Dean: Yeah. Dan: And the weather is usually good and, yeah, it's nice. Dean: Next year you've already got everything mapped out. You're always a year a full year ahead. Dan: Generally, with events like that, I'm you're ahead With our personal schedule. We're usually three years ahead, oh my goodness Wow. Well, it's because of the workshops. Dean: Yes. Dan: You have to figure every year you're going to have a certain number of workshops and they're going to be at a certain period of each quarter. Dean: So we have that. Dan: That's already logged in and we pretty well know that. I mean, then there's all sorts of things. I mean you have free days, but the free days move around in terms of what you're going to do with the free days, and I've got a book to do every quarter and I've got podcasts to do every quarter. I've got workshops to do every quarter. So've got podcasts to do every quarter, I've got workshops to do every quarter. So that gives it a pretty much of a go forward structure a nice cadence, yeah. Dean: Structure scaffolding yeah yeah, or as uh ned holland would call it, the bobsled run yeah, I don't experience. Dan: A I don't experience, add the way that describes it how so? Dean: so how do you mean? Dan: Well, I'm not super, I'm not hyperactive. Dean: Me neither. Dan: Yeah, so not, and you know, so I don't experience. I know that that exists and that's you know, it's a great part of ADD. Mine is I would characterize it what I think. What I think is the most important thing, subject to change on a fairly frequent basis, gotcha. Dean: Yeah, and how you know, you seem to you know I've adopted, or was introduced to. You know, russell Barkley's interpretation of ADD, which totally seemed to fit for me. I saw it in the clearest light that I've ever seen it or had the most understanding of it as an executive function. disability- and it was a really elevated way of thinking about it, as a you know you talked about it as a true, like a neuro degenerative disability, that it's not anything that you can will your way out of or that you can. You know, it's not a character issue or a weakness or anything like that, it's just the true physical, neurological disconnection between the two parts of your brain and I. Really, when I embraced that or, as I'm, it's still a journey of embracing it and realizing that the things that, that the ways that manifests for me is it really is when I'm left on my own to self-direct what I'm going to do with a big block of time. And it's been very, you know, it's been fascinating because my whole paradigm for the way that I've lived and set up my life is to try at all times to keep my schedule free so that I would have time to do all the things that I want to do, all the creative things, you know. But the reality is that the only things that ever get actually done are things that have that external scaffolding, things like podcasts and workshops and Zoom appointments, and the things that are synchronous and scheduled and involve other people, and there's no way around it. It's like, as much as I want to be able to think that I could clear off three hours in the morning and just sit and write or, to you know, create or to do something, it's very uphill because I'm very slippery, without the structure of someone being on the other end of the phone at 11 am on saturday or sunday morning. You know, I know I never miss and it's like those things that it's and I'm never. I never find, I never struggle with add in the moment. I always, once I'm engaged and into something, I'm able to give that thing my focus, like I'm not distracted while we're doing. Dan: Yeah, my experience would be you're the. My experience is that you're fully there. Dean: Yeah. Dan: When you're there. Dean: When I'm there Exactly. Dan: It's so funny, but if I need to be there, who's the who's the person? Who's the person that described this? Dean: for you, barkley, yeah, russell barkley. He's a contemporary colleague of of ned hollow. Well, they know each other very well they. And Russell Barkley actually has a series of videos that describe the things that he and Ned disagree on, the different approaches to two things, but they're both like totally fully respect the other. You know that's a big thing but for me that that explanation and that you know set of the way he described it, is that every intervention or everything that works has to be external and it can't be. You know, it's nothing internal like willing yourself or character changing or anything like that. It's really we need to treat it and to the extent that we treat it like a true disability and then make accommodations for it, like if you, he would say, if we treated it like you would never say to a paraplegic it's right over there, just get up and walk over there, it's only a few paces yeah, because you know that it's a physical impossibility for them to do that, but in the morning walk, first thing in the morning walk a mile yeah, exactly, if that's the thing, then that's going to be a problem right but, that's going to be a problem, yeah, but but if you acknowledge it as a disability and you said, okay, how about we get you a chair with wheels and then we'll put a motor on it and you can just point where you want to go and you'll get to where you're going, that's an accommodation for the disability and that's kind of what he's saying, that this external scaffolding like the way you know what I admire about your calendar so much is that you have all the things that you do are really supported by that external scaffolding. There's not a lot, of excuse me, like you know, you have used to be 150. How many workshop days do you have? Dan: now? Well, there are 60 days when I'm doing workshop activities, but a lot of them are two hour sessions or not eight hour sessions, and those are all on the calendar and oh yeah, those are, yeah, those go way into the future. Dean: Yeah, and they're all. I find that too, that they're all very, they're procrastination proof, because you have to show up like you know there's no way, it's really is just accepting it and you know, leaning into that structure as much as I, as much as I can, yeah yeah, it's really, it's kind of interesting. Dan: I was just bouncing his words off of. You know my own experience of being add and you know, clinically, I've been diagnosed, so you know it's, uh, you know it's, it's a real thing, and but mine is more that I actually I don't, and this relates to you. It doesn't relate to you know. So, barkley, so much it relates to you that my goal is to have my schedule filled up the night when I go to bed the night before. I want my schedule filled up for the, so I don't have to think about it when I get up in the morning it's all right, it's all set, yeah and but then I get over time. I get very discriminating about the quality of the things that are filling up my time. There's little adjustments that have to be made because I've got a great scheduler. Becca Miller is my scheduler and she's just terrific, but she can't do my thinking for me. For example, last weekend we were at Genius Network and then we came home on a Sunday. I don't like coming home on a Sunday. That's the way it was scheduled, that's the way it was scheduled. So I came home on schedule and then Monday was just packed and I said OK, we got to put a new rule in. Dean: If I come back on Sunday. Dan: There can't be anything on Monday, yeah, and we could see that six months ahead, you know we could see that, and so I have little conversations. This is the rule. And then on Friday, both Babs and I had Zoom calls after four o'clock, you know, one at five o'clock, one at six o'clock and I was going through the experience. I said, okay, no, no commitments after four o'clock on Friday. Right, yeah, but these are just little adjustments, you know these are just little adjustments that you make. And then I, you know, I sit down with her and I said let's just put a couple of new rules in. You know, if I come back on a sunday, I can't have anything on a monday. And then you know nothing after four on friday and everything like that. You know. Dean: And you know, it's just I. Dan: you know I was sitting, I was going through it, I I will fulfill the commitment, but as I'm going through it and I said I don't really like that, I not that I don't like the thing that I'm doing. I don't like doing it at this particular time, right. Dean: And the other. Thing is. Dan: I like being in Toronto on Saturday and having Toronto Saturday Day and this last year we've had more things that took away our Toronto Saturdays and I said we've got to look ahead now and look at all the Saturdays going out for a year and a half and to the most part, let me have that in Toronto, be in Toronto. Dean: Yeah, that's such a great. So you really Saturday is like a free day. I like it. Yeah, I just like it. Yeah, I just like it. Dan: Yeah, I just like it. Why do you want that? I really like it. Dean: Because I want it. That's right. I want what I want, yeah. Dan: I want what I like. Yes, yeah. Dean: Yeah, that's good. Well, I'm just going through the process right now, like embracing that. My goal is to shape my calendar for next year ahead for the whole, for the whole year. And that's yeah, that's really the. That's really the thing I tend to run really like about a quarter ahead. You know some things. I know when they are like, I know when and it's funny because they become the big rocks in my calendar in terms of like I appreciate that you know when the strategic coach workshops are, so I know to work around those. And I know when the annual event is and I know when our free zone summit is and I put those in you know, and I always tend to kind of work, I've had a tendency to kind of keep the time, keep the options open for the other times and I but I don't take that same thing of locking in my own events with with the same priority or consistency, you know. Dan: Well, I think I share that with you, that if it's just internal, you know it's me having a meeting with myself, or an activity. I'm much more negotiable with that than if it's external. I really grasp that what you're talking about there. You know I like and I like it, and that's why, you know, I try to be 100% on my commitments. Yes, if I say I'm going to be there, I'll be there. If I say I'm going to do this. I'll do it yeah. Dean: Yeah Well, that's rule number one Show up on time. Dan: Yeah, do what you say you're going to do. Dean: That's right. I'm the same way With commitments to others. I'm exactly the same right. I'm the same way With commitments to others. I'm exactly the same way. I'm very reliable, yeah. So it's a good journey. Dan: I was just reflecting. I want to give you a little progress report. I've really switched over to eating steak, having steak Do you know how I'm? I've really switched over to eating steak, you know having steak. Do you know how much time it saves you? It's incredible how much time that you save if you just eat steak. Dean: Well, the great news is I'm it sure, simplifies shopping. Absolutely. That's exactly right. My favorite staple is the thin cut ribeyes, and I know that I can do them in the air fryer they're very juicy. Dan: Oh, that's exactly right. I would do it just to squeeze the juice out of them. Oh man, that's so funny that juice is to live for, I'll tell you, yes, yes. The Babs. She'll sometimes put the steak on the plate and there's a lot of juice that comes out. Dean: You want me to pour that? Dan: I said no, that's the point of the meal Pour that on there, that's right. Dean: That was so funny, that restaurant that we went to in scottsdale the end. Dan: Isn't that a great really great and I love babs. Dean: Two extra steaks to go. That was really yeah, that's great. Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But boys that simplify your life, I mean I used to go to whole foods I get my haircut on in new york, new yorkville, it's right across from the court season. Dean: It's kenny connor from the. I used to go to Whole Foods. I get my haircut in. Dan: New Yorkville. It's right across from the Court Seasons. It's Kenny Connor from the Court Seasons where I get my haircut and I go down to the end of Scholar's, and that's where the Hilton. Lanes, are you? Know, and the Whole Foods is in there and I used to go in every Saturday and I'd walk around 15, 20 minutes buying this that I shouldn't eat, buying this that I shouldn't eat I shouldn't eat and take a bottle home and eat some of them and throw the rest out and everything else, and now we have a bruno's. Do you know bruno's in? Dean: toronto it goes back. Dan: It goes back 50 years yeah and uh, they have great meat department and we go in and the guy says same as usual, same as usual, yep, yep, except twice as much and hey gets it, you know. Dean: So yeah, it's really good yeah I was shocked about pusseteri's closing right there well, they didn't close. Dan: They're opening in one of those new buildings. Yeah, they had a. It was a shitty space where they were. Dean: Yeah, it was kind of awkward right. Dan: Yeah, very tiny space. So now they have it the way they wanted it. Dean: Okay, so they're still in, they're still on the island. They're closed for probably a year no but I mean they're going to be still in Yorkville. Yeah, Right on the island, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dan: So they'll have a huge space because their main store is up at Lawrence Avenue Road and that's like you know, it's a regular size supermarket. But they had this tiny little space and you know it didn't work in any way. It was just. I mean, first of all, you're paying 25, 10, 15% more if you shop at a suppository, but the whole quality of the experience was not up to what they were charging. Yeah, I went in there and they put in automatic checkouts and I said wait a minute. Now you're putting me charging. Yeah, I went in there and they put in automatic checkouts and I said wait a minute. Dean: Now you're putting me on. Dan: You're charging me 15% too much, and now you're putting me on staff. That's so funny. Dean: It's exactly right. Dan: Now I have to do checkout for you. I said no and I just stopped. I just stopped. I said I'm not going back here. That was during. And then some guy corrected me that my mask was too low on my face and I said I no, I can't. I, I can't put myself in this type of situation where I get the mask. Police are in pusitories, you know oh no, that's no good. And that was all for nothing. You know, I mean that. Quote that comment. Was it Callie Means? It was either Robert Kennedy or Callie Means. The average age of people who died during COVID. Did you catch that one? I did not. What was it? 81. At 81, you ask them for a refund. Dean: Right, oh, my goodness. Dan: I mean it's three years beyond expiry. Dean: Yeah right. Dan: I wonder how much of that you know. Dean: Though you look at, I think that 80 is the new 60, it feels like in a lot of ways. I feel that yeah, because you look at, you know, just even in that one little environment there, you know, Peter Thomas is 86 there. Dan: Yeah, and I was 80. Dean: Joel Weldon at 83. I mean, yeah, that's, those are not normal octogenarians. You know very, you know it's just and I think you see it now. You know it's just and I think you see it now. You know it's happening more. Dan: Well, and I think the other thing is that the retirement age, if I understand the logic of it, was to get the older people out of the factories, so that you wouldn't have a lot of unemployed young people. Bismarck in Germany that was, you know that was the first government that had a retirement program and a retirement policy. Now, with the low birth rates, you're going to want to keep the people in the workplace as long as you possibly can, so you're going to have a lot of 70 and 80-year-olds not retiring. First of all. I mean they've got a lot of 70 and 80 year olds not retiring. Yeah, first of all, I mean they've got a lot of experience and there's, um, you know it's, you know it's. Just, I thought immediately where I sat most was with pearson airport and air canada, the two experiences that go along together. And so, pearson airport, you have a lot of very skilled people who make sure that everything is, you know, good with the terminal, everything's working with the terminal, plus the you know, baggage is. You know the big thing, you know getting stuff off the planes really fast, getting it to the right, you know, to the right luggage rack and everything and everything. And then Air Canada, the ticketing, you know the ground crew and everything like that. And I noticed immediately that they had lost two levels of skill. Immediately during COVID, they bought off all their really high-priced pilots, they bought off all their cabin attendants, they bought off all the ticketing people, you know. You know they were like 60 they have mandatory retirement 65 and they just bought them off at 60 and it was very abrupt and it was total. And so you had people who were serving you and they were basically doing their job out of the job manual. You know they do this Well. That doesn't really give you high quality. Dean: Yeah, I mean the whole. Did you happen to see any highlights from the Mike Tyson fight the other night? Dan: No, I didn't. I didn't, I just knew he slapped him. Dean: Yeah, that was all leaving up to it. That was the way in when he stepped on his. Dan: That made sure that both of them got $30 million oh exactly. Dean: Well, that's, but I think what happened was that Jake stepped on his toe is what happened, and he slapped him, but the fight was uneventful. I mean, it was really. Dan: He won on points. Right he won on points. Jake Paul won on points. Dean: Yes, exactly, and but it was. It was sad to see Mike Tyson, you know, at 58, he really did look old like, even in his movements and the way it's like that was, it was something you could really tell the difference between 27 and 58, you know. And that's you wonder, like that's yeah, he's in peak physical condition for a 58 year old. Dan: Yeah, but it was just yeah, but your muscles are slow yeah, that's what I mean. Dean: He looked kind of no, your, no, your muscles just slowed down. Dan: Yeah, it was really interesting because I haven't run and I started running, just, you know, some attempt because of my knee. Yeah, and you know a 50-year-old injury to my knee to run again, so I was. We have quite a good size dock at the lake up north. Dean: Yeah. Dan: And so what I do is I have a rule that three seconds after I take off my sneakers, I'm in the water. I have to be in the water. Dean: You've got to do it. Take them off One, two, three go, otherwise it'll take forever. Dan: And so what? I do it at the back of the dock and I have maybe 15 feet, 15 feet, and so the moment, the thing off. I just run for the front and I jump, I jump into the water and Babs took a video of it and I looked at it and I said you don't show this to anybody, it's not. I said I am really slow, I'm really slow, I'm really slow. Yes, and part of it. You know I'm recovering from an injury. Dean: But part of it is just, I got 80-year-old muscles, you know, and they're not fast you have the memory of you know I mean you have 20-year-old tennis memories of how fast you were. Dan: Yeah, it's so funny you know so funny. That's a nice memory, but it's not a present experience, that's going to be absolutely true. Dean: It's so funny that you mentioned that is because when I was watching Mike Tyson, I was thinking to myself that's one of my aspirations. I'd love to, as I continue to lose weight and get more mobile, that I would like to you know for your running, that's my thing is to be able to get back to to play tennis well, you were in the top hundred. Dan: You were in the top hundred, weren't you amateur? Dean: no, not that high, but I was very, at a very high level. But but the you know. But to be able to get to that, knowing that my mind knows what it's like to be a 20-year-old tennis player, my mind and my muscle memory still knows exactly what to do in those situations, but it's going to be. As I watched Mike Tyson, I realized, and it's every now. And as I watched Mike Tyson, I realized, you know, and it's every now and then I'll watch these guys, I'll watch on YouTube, I'll watch some, like you know, 55 plus. You know, tennis matches are 60 plus, even them by age groups, you know. So I've been watching the 60 plus and it's amazing to see how brittle brittle is a good word, will appear to be yeah, well, the other thing you know, like the mile run you know the world record right now is three, three, four, I think 17,. Dan: You know 17 seconds under four minutes. But the oldest person in history to ever run a sub four is Amin Coughlin, irishman. I think he was at one of the East Coast United States universities and then he raced after that, but he was 43 and nobody over 43 has ever run a four minute mile. How's Daniel doing with his getting back to you know, he's in the five he's in the five minutes, five, five, five, 40, you know, and and one of the things, because he's, he's late, he's 58 or 59. And he just says you know, I just realized that it's just impossible for me ever to well he did it once, you know, he ran a 359. Dean: Yeah, but he was running. Dan: You know he was running 405, 406, 402,. You know every race and you just can't do that anymore. And you know so you have a collision between your actual performance and your memory of being fast. Dean: Yes, oh man Whoa performance and your memory of being fast. Yes, oh, man whoa. There's just kind of I'm just kind of preparing myself for the reality of that, you know, and that's yeah, but it's even apparent that you were very coordinated. Dan: I mean the way you walk and everything. Uh, you know the way my entire memory of you is mostly the last 10, 12, 12 years. And I noticed that you have very great athletic coordination, so you have that going for you. Dean: I got that going for me, that's true. Dan: Yeah, so yeah, hopefully that will. Dean: I wonder now, you know, like I wonder through do you do any mobility things like Pilates or stretching or yoga or any of those things? The only thing. Dan: I do. We have a, really we have an industrial strength. The vibration plate is about three feet by three feet and you do high intensity vibrations on it. And then I just have a pole, and then I do it in, let's say, 10 different positions. I do the pole. And that helps a lot the vibration point. I mean it makes the house, it almost makes the house rattle, almost makes the house rattle, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and that's really. I do a lot of band stuff. You know where you use. You put the band about around a pole and then you can really do, yeah, so that helps a lot. I like that. Yeah and yeah. But you know, my big thing is just being productive in terms of the work, you know you know, my big thing is just being productive in terms of the work. You know, I mean I was never a competitor in any kind of individual sport. I was all team sports when I was growing up because I really liked the team Football, basketball, football, basketball and everything else. So I never, I never really was attracted to individual competitions and you know, but my big thing is just to. I've got quarterly, I've got quarterly products to produce, I've got books to produce and everything. It's just that. I'm always in a good energy, you know, good energy state for all that work. Dean: And that's great. That's why the physical, having the physical, you know physically fit body is really just for your purposes and to the brain oxygenated and carry around where you need to be right, that's really the thing. Yeah, yeah, I just had a brain MRI. Dan: I just had a brain MRI. In October I was was in nashville with david hossie and I've grown new neurons this year and I think it's from the stem cells oh, wow from the stem cells and he says you got neurons there that aren't organized. Yet he says you know? He says you're going to have to organize your neurons and I said that's a nice report. That's a nice report. Yeah, he says you're going to have to organize your neurons and I said that's a nice report, that's a nice report. And he says you're not dementia, You're not becoming demented, You're re-menting. Dean: Re-mented. I love it Re-menture. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, it's good. Dan: My memory. I do a full bank cognitive test every quarter. It's, but 19 different tests takes you about, you know, 40 minutes or an hour and my memory was way up. My verbal memory was way up and my objects you know graphic memory was way up. Dean: So that's good. Dan: And he says then you got too much, and you got too much visceral fat and you got this and I said, now let's just stick with the subject of the brain here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many 80 year olds do you have that got more brain than they had? Dean: exactly that's the. Let's focus on the positive here. Dan: Yeah, let's take our wins where we can. Yeah, it's really interesting. Yeah, but yeah, I think that we started our conversation today off with last week's Genius Network setting anywhere in the world where the people that joe had on stage with him and the quality of the discussion they were having could happen anywhere else. Dean: Yeah, no, I get you. I bet you're right. Absolutely, that's what I mean about the way joe's really elevated his ability to stand in conversation with these people, you know it's a different. It's not like as a interviewer or a journalist. He's having a real, authentic conversation with them and it's fascinating. Yeah, it's good to see. Dan: Yeah Well, I bet there's sleepless nights going on in Washington DC these days, have you? Dean: seen the things, the memes of who Robert Kennedy is replacing, like they showed the minister of health or whoever the health and human services lead, is now compared to Robert Kennedy. It's funny. Dan: Oh yeah. Dean: Yeah Well, it's a nice thing that happened. Dan: You know, and you know Jeff Hayes, you know one of our colleagues in that time. I mean, he was really instrumental in, you know, getting him so far that he would become in a position where he could do a collaboration with Trump you know, yeah, Trump's the kind of guy you know. He doesn't care what shape or form the talent comes in. Dean: That's exactly right. Dan: It's kind of interesting because when I spoke to Robert Kennedy just briefly and I said in 1962, I was working at the FBI in Washington and I had to go over to the Department of Justice in Washington and I had to go over to the Department of Justice, we had a sort of a tour of part of the history of the FBI and it was in the Department of Justice building and Robert Kennedy happened to walk by in the hallway. His father walked by, so that was 1962. And I said really interesting, 62 years later and he'll have far more influence in his new position than his father ever had. Dean: Yeah, I bet you're absolutely right, for sure, yeah, awesome, yep, so we'll be so we'll have. Dan: No, I won't do it next week, right exactly. Well, I can do the. I can do the two weeks, two weeks from today. I can do it next week, right exactly well, I can do the. Dean: I can do the two weeks, two weeks from today. I can do it, okay, if you're available. Yeah, absolutely yeah that would be fantastic. Okay, all right, see you then okay, thanks dan, bye okay.

PTF kicks off the show with Darin Zoccali of Twinspires.com as they go over a loaded night of racing at Turfway Park and preview the new $2,000 Turfway Handicapping Championship.Next up Matt DeSantis of NYRA Bets drops by with thoughts on Aqueduct's Saturday Pick Six.Last but not least, Alex Henry visits with an update on the Japanese path to the Triple Crown. . .and thoughts on the big race in Japan on Saturday night.Peter Thomas and Darren Zoccali from Twinspires.com kick off a vibrant discussion centered around the Turfway Handicapping Championship, bringing excitement and anticipation for a night filled with competitive racing. They highlight the upcoming Fiesta Championship Cup, drawing attention to the festive atmosphere and the engagement of former NFL players at Turf Paradise, generating buzz for the event scheduled for December 30th. The hosts provide essential details like ticket prices and event schedules, setting the stage for an engaging experience for racegoers and enthusiasts alike.As the episode unfolds, Peter and Darren transition into an in-depth analysis of the Turfway Park races, focusing on the synthetic championships. They meticulously dissect each race on the card, providing detailed insights into the horses' past performances, track conditions, and the betting implications of these factors. Their analysis includes standout picks such as Nicest Pie, with discussions on the horse's previous runs and potential for success in the upcoming races. The hosts also share valuable betting strategies, encouraging listeners to look for value and consider less obvious contenders, ensuring they are well-equipped for their wagering decisions.In the latter half, the episode features Matt DeSantis from NYRA Bets, who dives into the intricacies of Aqueduct's Saturday Pick Six. He offers expert commentary on key horses, discussing their form and how the current track conditions might affect their performances. The conversation highlights the significance of being aware of race dynamics and strategic betting, providing listeners with actionable insights. Wrapping up the episode, Alex Henry joins to discuss the Japanese racing scene, shedding light on the path to the Triple Crown and offering insights into prominent horses competing in this weekend's races. This blend of local and international racing highlights makes for a well-rounded episode, engaging listeners with varied perspectives and comprehensive coverage of the racing world.Takeaways: The Turfway Handicapping Championship offers a substantial $2,000 buy-in with exciting prizes. Darren Zoccali emphasizes the importance of financial promotions for players at Turfway Park. Matt DeSantis shares insights on Aqueduct's Saturday races, focusing on the Pick Six. Alex Henry highlights the success of Myriad Love, a Philly winning in Japan. The podcast discusses various betting strategies and insights for the upcoming Turfway races. Listeners learn about the potential of Japanese horses in the upcoming Triple Crown races. Links referenced in this episode:twinspires.commorninglineclub.comCompanies mentioned in this episode: National Thoroughbred League Fiesta Championship Cup Twinspires.com NYRA Bets Morning Line Club Adelphi Racing 10 Strike Racing

PTF kicks off the show with Darin Zoccali of Twinspires.com as they go over a loaded night of racing at Turfway Park and preview the new $2,000 Turfway Handicapping Championship.Next up Matt DeSantis of NYRA Bets drops by with thoughts on Aqueduct's Saturday Pick Six.Last but not least, Alex Henry visits with an update on the Japanese path to the Triple Crown. . .and thoughts on the big race in Japan on Saturday night.Peter Thomas and Darren Zoccali from Twinspires.com kick off a vibrant discussion centered around the Turfway Handicapping Championship, bringing excitement and anticipation for a night filled with competitive racing. They highlight the upcoming Fiesta Championship Cup, drawing attention to the festive atmosphere and the engagement of former NFL players at Turf Paradise, generating buzz for the event scheduled for December 30th. The hosts provide essential details like ticket prices and event schedules, setting the stage for an engaging experience for racegoers and enthusiasts alike.As the episode unfolds, Peter and Darren transition into an in-depth analysis of the Turfway Park races, focusing on the synthetic championships. They meticulously dissect each race on the card, providing detailed insights into the horses' past performances, track conditions, and the betting implications of these factors. Their analysis includes standout picks such as Nicest Pie, with discussions on the horse's previous runs and potential for success in the upcoming races. The hosts also share valuable betting strategies, encouraging listeners to look for value and consider less obvious contenders, ensuring they are well-equipped for their wagering decisions.In the latter half, the episode features Matt DeSantis from NYRA Bets, who dives into the intricacies of Aqueduct's Saturday Pick Six. He offers expert commentary on key horses, discussing their form and how the current track conditions might affect their performances. The conversation highlights the significance of being aware of race dynamics and strategic betting, providing listeners with actionable insights. Wrapping up the episode, Alex Henry joins to discuss the Japanese racing scene, shedding light on the path to the Triple Crown and offering insights into prominent horses competing in this weekend's races. This blend of local and international racing highlights makes for a well-rounded episode, engaging listeners with varied perspectives and comprehensive coverage of the racing world.Takeaways: The Turfway Handicapping Championship offers a substantial $2,000 buy-in with exciting prizes. Darren Zoccali emphasizes the importance of financial promotions for players at Turfway Park. Matt DeSantis shares insights on Aqueduct's Saturday races, focusing on the Pick Six. Alex Henry highlights the success of Myriad Love, a Philly winning in Japan. The podcast discusses various betting strategies and insights for the upcoming Turfway races. Listeners learn about the potential of Japanese horses in the upcoming Triple Crown races. Links referenced in this episode:twinspires.commorninglineclub.comCompanies mentioned in this episode: National Thoroughbred League Fiesta Championship Cup Twinspires.com NYRA Bets Morning Line Club Adelphi Racing 10 Strike Racing

The latest show kicks off with PTF hosting Steven Crist and Jonathon Kinchen talking about the Pick 6 at Aqueduct on Saturday.Next up, Kaitlin Free drops by with thoughts on the Saturday late Pick Five at Turfway Park.Last but not least, Alex Henry has thoughts on the JRA races Saturday night as well as views on the Japanese runners in Hong Kong for the HKIR races.*Peter Thomas hosts a dynamic discussion focused on the Pick 6 at Aqueduct this Saturday, joined by racing experts Steve Crist and Jonathan Kinchen. They delve into the complexities of the day's stakes races, offering insights on potential contenders and strategies for bettors. Following this, Kaitlin Free shares her analysis of the late Pick Five at Turfway Park, highlighting key runners and their chances on the synthetic surface. The conversation culminates with Alex Henry, who provides an in-depth look at the JRA races taking place Saturday night, including a spotlight on the exciting U.S.-bred filly Mayday Ready competing in the prestigious Hong Kong International Races. With expert opinions and tips from multiple angles, this episode is a must-listen for racing enthusiasts looking to enhance their betting strategies.The latest show kicks off with PTF hosting Steven Crist and Jonathon Kinchen talking about the Pick 6 at Aqueduct on Saturday.Next up, Kaitlin Free drops by with thoughts on the Saturday late Pick Five at Turfway Park.Last but not least, Alex Henry has thoughts on the JRA races Saturday night as well as views on the Japanese runners in Hong Kong for the HKIR races.Takeaways: Peter Thomas, Stephen Crist, and Jonathan Kinchen discuss the upcoming Pick 6 at Aqueduct, emphasizing the importance of strategic selections. Kaitlin Free provides insights on the Turfway Park late Pick Five, highlighting notable runners to watch. Alex Henry shares details on the exciting JRA races, focusing on the standout US-bred filly Mayday Ready. The hosts explore the nuances of betting on synthetic surfaces, particularly at Turfway Park, offering tips for successful wagering. Listeners are encouraged to pay attention to Japanese runners competing in the upcoming Hong Kong International Races. The episode emphasizes the significance of understanding horse racing form and pedigree in making informed betting decisions.

The latest show kicks off with PTF hosting Steven Crist and Jonathon Kinchen talking about the Pick 6 at Aqueduct on Saturday.Next up, Kaitlin Free drops by with thoughts on the Saturday late Pick Five at Turfway Park.Last but not least, Alex Henry has thoughts on the JRA races Saturday night as well as views on the Japanese runners in Hong Kong for the HKIR races.*Peter Thomas hosts a dynamic discussion focused on the Pick 6 at Aqueduct this Saturday, joined by racing experts Steve Crist and Jonathan Kinchen. They delve into the complexities of the day's stakes races, offering insights on potential contenders and strategies for bettors. Following this, Kaitlin Free shares her analysis of the late Pick Five at Turfway Park, highlighting key runners and their chances on the synthetic surface. The conversation culminates with Alex Henry, who provides an in-depth look at the JRA races taking place Saturday night, including a spotlight on the exciting U.S.-bred filly Mayday Ready competing in the prestigious Hong Kong International Races. With expert opinions and tips from multiple angles, this episode is a must-listen for racing enthusiasts looking to enhance their betting strategies.The latest show kicks off with PTF hosting Steven Crist and Jonathon Kinchen talking about the Pick 6 at Aqueduct on Saturday.Next up, Kaitlin Free drops by with thoughts on the Saturday late Pick Five at Turfway Park.Last but not least, Alex Henry has thoughts on the JRA races Saturday night as well as views on the Japanese runners in Hong Kong for the HKIR races.Takeaways:Peter Thomas, Stephen Crist, and Jonathan Kinchen discuss the upcoming Pick 6 at Aqueduct, emphasizing the importance of strategic selections.Kaitlin Free provides insights on the Turfway Park late Pick Five, highlighting notable runners to watch.Alex Henry shares details on the exciting JRA races, focusing on the standout US-bred filly Mayday Ready.The hosts explore the nuances of betting on synthetic surfaces, particularly at Turfway Park, offering tips for successful wagering.Listeners are encouraged to pay attention to Japanese runners competing in the upcoming Hong Kong International Races.The episode emphasizes the significance of understanding horse racing form and pedigree in making informed betting decisions.

Today it seems that for so many Christians worship more often than not has become nothing more than a 20-30 minute time slot before someone preaches. But what does God desire in that which we are to offer to Him? Join Peter Thomas as he explores the answer to this question from Luke 21 and Leviticus 1-7.www.instagram.com/thehishillpodcast/www.hishill.orgkelly@hishill.org

Regardless of our external circumstances, such as our upbringings, educations, or professions, we all have an internal capacity to achieve great things in our own lives and the world around us. To unleash this “inner genius,” however, it's crucial to believe in its existence and develop the desire and motivation to reach the goals that we set for ourselves.  Nicknamed the “One Minute Mentor,” Peter Thomas is a renowned entrepreneur and philanthropist who has made significant strides in real estate and business. He founded Century 21 Real Estate Canada, and is growing his Dogtopia business to be the top dog daycare and boarding brand in North America. Beyond business, Peter leads Thomas Pride International, investing in innovative ventures with a positive community impact. His philanthropic efforts include the Todd Thomas Foundation and the Thomas Foundation, supporting children's mental health and education. Peter champions values-based living and leadership through the LifePilot program, and has also authored several books, including his latest, “The Dream Factory: A Proven Formula to Turn Your Dreams into Reality!” As our guest in Episode 194 of The MINDset Game® podcast, Peter shares the following: Why it's important to get clear on your values, and then strive to set and accomplish goals – beginning with small goals before expanding to more ambitious ones – that align with your values The power of surrounding yourself with people whose skills and talents complement your own, while also being cautious about which advice from others you choose to follow The value of seeking mentors – which may include channeling the intuitive guidance of great figures throughout history whom you admire – to help encourage you in the process of harnessing your genius potential  To hear more from Peter Thomas, follow him on social media (@peterhthomas_ on Instagram and Peter H. Thomas on LinkedIn and Facebook), or look for one of his books.  To subscribe to The MINDset Game podcast, visit www.TheMINDsetGame.com.  

In this hilarious episode of Packernet After Dark, Ryan showcases his comedic talent with the debut of the Trucker Bob song, a fan-favorite parody that brings laughs and applause from listeners. Peter Thomas calls in to praise Ryan's creativity, describing the song as pure genius and urging him to create personalized anthems for other regular callers. As Ryan dives into the process of crafting these unique songs, he shares behind-the-scenes stories about the challenges and fun of blending music with Packers fandom. Listeners will enjoy Ryan's recounting of his musical journey, including his struggles with perfecting rap lyrics and finding the right sound for each piece. He also reveals his plans to create more personalized songs for other fans like Jersey Mike and Joe the Janitor, aiming to bring more joy and engagement to the Packernet After Dark community. Throughout the episode, Ryan's humor shines as he discusses the quirks of Packers callers and their unique personalities. From the truck-driving adventures of Trucker Bob to the passionate rants of regular fans, this episode is filled with laughter, creativity, and the unifying spirit of Packers nation. Join the fun and see why Packernet After Dark is the go-to place for late-night Packers talk, fan interaction, and, of course, a healthy dose of comedy. Don't miss this unforgettable episode that perfectly captures the blend of sports and entertainment that makes the Packernet Podcast Network special. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this hilarious episode of Packernet After Dark, Ryan showcases his comedic talent with the debut of the Trucker Bob song, a fan-favorite parody that brings laughs and applause from listeners. Peter Thomas calls in to praise Ryan's creativity, describing the song as pure genius and urging him to create personalized anthems for other regular callers. As Ryan dives into the process of crafting these unique songs, he shares behind-the-scenes stories about the challenges and fun of blending music with Packers fandom. Listeners will enjoy Ryan's recounting of his musical journey, including his struggles with perfecting rap lyrics and finding the right sound for each piece. He also reveals his plans to create more personalized songs for other fans like Jersey Mike and Joe the Janitor, aiming to bring more joy and engagement to the Packernet After Dark community. Throughout the episode, Ryan's humor shines as he discusses the quirks of Packers callers and their unique personalities. From the truck-driving adventures of Trucker Bob to the passionate rants of regular fans, this episode is filled with laughter, creativity, and the unifying spirit of Packers nation. Join the fun and see why Packernet After Dark is the go-to place for late-night Packers talk, fan interaction, and, of course, a healthy dose of comedy. Don't miss this unforgettable episode that perfectly captures the blend of sports and entertainment that makes the Packernet Podcast Network special. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The pint-sized Republican FRAUD, Mike Johnson, betrays us and flip-flops his vote on FISA. PLUS, Peter Thomas, Chairman of AuSecure Metals, talks to Shaun about the precious metals and our economy. And Dr. Sumantra Maitra, Senior Editor at The American Conservative, brings us the foreign affairs news of the week.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Gizelle and Robyn talk about the RHOP reunion, cherry blossoms, Trump's sneakers, Dolly and Beyonce, Wendy Williams' documentary, Bradley Cooper, Jerry Jones, Rihanna, Peter Thomas, Miami, and more!     +Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ReasonablyShady  +Get in touch with the show: whatsup (at) reasonablyshady (dot) com  || Keep up with us on IG: ReasonablyShady  || Follow Robyn: robyndixon10  || Follow Gizelle: gizellebryant || See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of "Packernet After Dark," we journey through a rollercoaster of emotions, insights, and even culinary revelations from our dedicated callers. Leading off, we delve into the nuanced discussion sparked by Omar, comparing the wide receiver talents across teams and the impact of surrounding team quality on player performance. Omar's detailed analysis brings forth a fresh perspective on player evaluations, highlighting the importance of considering the entire team's dynamic. Next, Jersey Mike introduces a mouth-watering twist with his unique take on mac and cheese mixed with barbecue sauce, inspiring listeners to explore new culinary horizons. His suggestion not only tantalizes taste buds but also brings a sense of community as fans share their own food experiments. The conversation takes a strategic turn with insights into team management and the potential for expanding the Packernet brand. The importance of delegation and community involvement is emphasized, suggesting that the strength of the Packernet community lies in its collective passion and ideas. Daniel from California shifts the focus back to football, expressing excitement for the offseason and the strategic additions to the team. His optimism about the coaching staff's potential to elevate the team's performance echoes the sentiments of many fans looking forward to the new season. An innovative suggestion from a caller proposes a "PFF for announcers," sparking a humorous yet insightful discussion on the performance of game commentators. This unique idea highlights the community's engagement with every aspect of the game experience, extending beyond just the on-field action. Peter Thomas shares his personal story of becoming a fan of Jaden Reed, showcasing the impact of the Packernet community's analysis and discussions on individual fan experiences. His story is a testament to the community's influence and the personal connections fans develop with players. Wrapping up, a suggestion for incorporating injury history into player evaluations using AI technology showcases the community's forward-thinking approach to understanding the game. This idea represents the blend of technology and sports analysis that Packernet After Dark fosters among its listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices