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In this episode, we explore a groundbreaking Danish registry study that challenges common beliefs about long-term benzodiazepine use and dose escalation patterns. Are our concerns about inevitable tolerance and dependence justified? The study's findings might surprise you and reshape prescribing practices. Faculty: Scott Beach, M.D. Host: Richard Seeber, M.D. Learn more about our membership here Earn 0.75 CME: Quick Take Vol. 65 Do Benzodiazepine Users Escalate Doses Over Time?

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 You're at the end of your rope, so you head to the pharmacy for the help you so desperately need to sleep. But wait, you aren't sure if it's safe, if it works, and if there's a better way.  Stay tuned to learn about the benefits, side effects, and risk of sleep aids.   I'm Dr.Vickie Petz Kasper. If you're ready to take control of your health, you're in the right  place. I'll give you practical steps to start your own journey toward better health because healthy looks great on you.  This is episode 159, Sleeping Pills and Potions. What works and what doesn't. You know that poor sleep is associated with heart disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity, immune dysfunction, high blood pressure, anxiety, depression, fatigue, irritability, and good grief, I could go on and on. So, taking something to help you sleep sounds like a good idea, right?  Today, we'll discuss what you need to know before you go and get a prescription, supplement, or over the counter sleeping aid. Look, we have to sleep. Our very lives and health depend on it. But the struggle is real. Insomnia is one of the most common symptoms people go to the doctor or health care provider for treatment.   And what if I told you that good sleep is possible without medications? Well, it is. In fact, the first line treatment recommended to treat insomnia is not medication. The standard recommendation for managing insomnia is to eliminate things that go bump in the night and keep you awake.  Or, to treat underlying diseases that disrupt sleep. It's not recommended to start with behavioral therapy or medications until these other things are maximized. Ha! But good luck with that. If you go to your primary care provider and you don't get a prescription, I'll buy you a cup of coffee and we can both stay awake.  And, if you think you need to see a specialist, then you'll probably get to spend the night in a sleep lab hotel hooked up to a bunch of wires and you may get answers, like, a CPAP, and that's important if you have sleep apnea, but if not, you might not even hear from them. No wonder you're looking for a good solution to sleep.  And though medications are not the first line recommendation, that is the topic of today's episode. So let's get to it. We're going to start with prescription medications, then we'll talk about over the counter medications and wrap up with supplements.  There are three classes of drugs approved to treat insomnia. Benzodiazepine receptor agonist, histamine receptor antagonist, and melatonin receptor agonist. Listening to all that medical jargon may be sufficient to put you to sleep. But wait, let me explain. You'll understand more after we go to mini medical school today and learn about receptors.  These are made up of proteins and they receive chemical signals that produce a response.  Let me give you this analogy. You've got a lamp sitting on an end table, but it's not plugged in, so there's no light. And when you stick those two prongs into the socket, behold, now you can sit and read. And that's kind of how a receptor works. The plug fits into the plug in. So an agonist is like the plug. It fits. It turns it on. It lets the electricity flow.  But, if you had a toddler in the house, you might want to plug in one of those little plastic things so he doesn't stick a butter knife in there and get shocked. So that would be an antagonist.  Okay, now wake up and pay attention. We've got three classes of drugs to look at. Benzo receptor agonist and melatonin agonist. That plug in and histamine receptor antagonist that block the plugin. And then there's another category called other. We'll just call that the clapper, you know, clap, clap. And the light comes on, clap, clap, and the light goes off.  There are eight drugs in the benzodiazepine receptor agonist family. And the first five are about my age, you know, born in the 60s. They are Estazolam, which is Prosom, Florazepam, which is Dalmane, Quamazepam, which is Doral, Temazepam, which is Restoril and Triazolam, which is Halcion. Now the millennials aren't benzos, but they're still benzo receptor agonist. And you know, this generation got way more complicated spelling their kids' names, so I'm probably gonna have to sound them out like a first grade teacher on the first day of school.  Eszopiclone is Lunesta, Zaleplon is Sonata. Zolpidem is Ambien.  Those older drugs are crankier and cause more dependence although Restoril is the nicest in the category. There are other benzos which are technically prescribed for anxiety and  some people do use them to help them sleep. Do they work? Here's what the data says for the old guys. They help you fall asleep faster. A whole whopping 10 minutes faster. And they increase total sleep time by half an hour to an hour. That's it.  What about risk? Well, they make you sleepy, which is kind of the point, but also they can make you dizzy, which can make you fall if you get up and go to the bathroom during the night. And if you mix them with opioids, the reaction can be fatal.   Now, the younger guys function about as well as the older ones, but they have shorter half lives, so their effects don't wear out their welcome so much with daytime grogginess. And they aren't so deadly when socializing with opioids. But rarely, they do some bizarre things like compel you to shop or gamble in the middle of the night. All for 10 minutes faster to go to sleep and half hour to an hour longer sleeping.  Okay, clap on, clap off, let's talk about the other drugs.  These are dual orexin receptor antagonists.  Affectionately known as D O R A or Dora.  The first one is Suvarexant, which is called Belsomra. The next one is Derodorexant, which sounds a lot like deodorant to me, and that's exactly what I'm gonna call it because the brand name is Quviviq. And finally, there is Limboxerant, which has a really cool brand name, Dayvigo.  What? You've never heard of any of these? Well, that's probably because they're slightly less effective than the other drugs. They help you go to sleep seven minutes faster. But the main side effect is sleepiness, and people generally say they slept better. The next topic in pharmacology class in mini medical school is the histamine antagonist. You know, the little plastic thing that goes in the wall socket so your toddler doesn't.  Doxepin is a tricyclic antidepressant that functions this way, and even in low doses it causes the desirable effect of drowsiness. So, it's approved for the treatment of drowsiness deficit.  Unfortunately, there are some drugs it doesn't play nice with. But, it does increase sleep time by Drum roll please! 25 to 30 minutes. Womp, womp, womp. And, it helps people stay asleep toward the end of the sleep cycle.    And I think this underscores why one size does not fit all and prescriptions should be customized for individual needs.  The last class of drugs approved for the treatment of insomnia makes a lot of sense.  Ramelteon is a melatonin receptor agonist and the brand name Rosarem, get it? REM, R E M, as in rapid eye movement sleep. It's got a good mechanism of action, a good name. Problem is, it doesn't work any better than placebo. So, you can skip the potential for fatigue, nausea, and worsening of liver disease and just take a sugar pill.  So, am I saying it doesn't work at all? Of course not. Why would it be approved if it didn't work? Well, it's not in Europe, but it does work to lengthen sleep time by a grand total of seven minutes. And I don't know about you, but it's going to take more than seven minutes to get rid of the bags under these eyes.  So that's the gamut of drugs approved for the treatment of insomnia in the United States. But wait, there's more. Just because the FDA doesn't approve something for a particular indication, that doesn't mean that doctors can't prescribe it. And sometimes, off label prescribing is a really good thing, though it's a set up for a knock down, drag out fight with your insurance company for coverage. In addition to using the antidepressant Doxepin, many doctors prescribe other antidepressants for sleep. Things like Amitriptyline and Trazodone, even though the American Academy of Sleep Medicine advises against it because of side effects and no data showing that it works. Now, I always recommend that you consult with your health care provider regarding your medications. Always, always, always.  But, I also recommend that they consult with up to date society recommendations and guidelines. That's just fair. And while they're at it, they should look at the potential adverse reactions. So, now maybe you've decided to skip the copay and just help yourself to the sleep aid aisle of the pharmacy. You could even ask the pharmacist to guide you, and I recommend that. There are two over the counter medications approved to treat insomnia. They are diphenhydramine, commonly known as Benadryl, and doxalamine, commonly known as Unisom. Side note, over the counter medications are regulated  FDA, And both of these drugs are histamine blockers. Therefore, all of the fun side effects that come with that, like dry mouth, GI distress, dizziness, trouble emptying your bladder, and of course, sedation, which is the desired side effect. These medications are often combined with things like Advil or Tylenol with an added P. M. at the end, so you know what's in store for you. And here's what's in store for diphenhydramine. 8 less minutes to fall asleep and 12 more minutes of sleep. And for doxylamine, there's no data available. That's it. That's what we've got. So, maybe now you've decided just to take matters into your own hands and look for a supplement. And because you've listened to my previous podcast episode about dementia, you're gonna skip right over the Prevagen, right? Promise me. Now, in the supplement section, you're going to walk in understanding that claims, concentrations, and ingredients are not guaranteed. They're not regulated. They are, generally speaking, considered safe and ineffective. You heard that right. Safe. And ineffective. But what about melatonin? You swear it works, but does it?  Maybe. It is sedating in about 10 percent of people and in everyone else, it shifts the sleep phase. So, there is a place for that such as jet lag, and I have an episode on jet lag in the show notes.  But even though it may help you drift off to sleep, it probably isn't going to help you stay asleep. The half life is less than an hour, and in some people it causes stomach cramps, irritability, and even depression. It's best used in combination with other things that regulate your circadian rhythm. More to come on that. But a big one is light. And so this probably would be a great time to tell you about some exciting news I have for you. I have an upcoming series of live webinars to talk about six hidden things that keep you tossing and turning at night.   And soon you'll have access to an online course called Unlock the Secret to Sleep, your personal sleep solution. I have been working so hard on this for so long that I cannot wait to share it with you.  I want to help you reset your sleep and get your Z's. Now there are other supplements labeled as sleep aids and most of them again are safe and probably not effective. The exceptions on safety are kava and valerian root. Both of those have been associated with liver damage. Now it's rare, but it's very serious. Other things you might find on this aisle are chamomile, Glycine, Gryphonia, Hops,  , Kava, L theanine, Lavender, , Passionflower, Nightshade, Skullcap, Strymonium, Tryptophan, , and Wild Jujube Seeds.  They're all equally effective and work every bit as well as a sugar pill, but hey, sugar pills can have powerful placebo effects. And one last thing I want to mention, and that is cannabis. Bottom line is there's not enough research to say one way or another, whether it works. It does have the potential for addiction and it's not legal everywhere. So there's that.  But also it's a problem that if you quit, you'll likely experience sleep disturbances that can last for several months.     The bottom line is, I want you to know that you shouldn't have to choose between serious health consequences of poor sleep and the side effects and risk of sleeping pills and potions.  If you suffer from insomnia, I do encourage you not to stop any medications without medical supervision and to have an honest conversation with your doctor. And if they want access to my resources, just give them my email address. I'm happy to share and they're 100 percent legit, but if good sleep eludes you, I want you to know while there's no magic pill for perfect sleep, there is a proven path to natural, restorative rest that can transform your life. Imagine waking up energized, focused, and ready to tackle your day without relying on sleeping pills or potions.  Are you tired of tossing and turning at night? Desperately wishing for deep, restful sleep?  I'm hosting two exclusive live webinars where I'll share my evidence based approach to achieving consistent quality sleep. Join me on March 3rd or March 5th to discover how to fall asleep naturally. and wake up refreshed, practical strategies to boost your energy and mental clarity, and solutions to common sleep challenges that keep you awake at night.  Plus you'll get a chance to ask your most pressing sleep questions during a live Q& A session. So don't miss this opportunity. To revolutionize your sleep. Click the link in the show notes to save your spot now. Registration is required. And make sure you're on my email list to receive exclusive pre webinar insights and special bonuses. Your journey to better sleep starts here. Sign up right now and let's transform your nights and supercharge your days.  Because good sleep is crucial for good health and healthy looks great on you.   RESOURCES: FREE, live sleep masterclass registration Jet Lag Does Prevagen work? Why doctors prescribe a pill Meet Aunt Edna - Your holiday survival stress guide

Christian Rasmussen is the founder of Minnesota Nice Ethnobotanicals , a bulk importer of Amanita muscaria and vendor of other ethnobotanical such as Blue Lotus Flower, Kanna, California Poppy and more. Christian shares insights into the challenges and opportunities to running one of the most prolific Amanita muscaria providers in North America given the recent headwinds proposed by the FDA in which they drafted a 'warning' letter to Amanita product manufacturers regarding the agency's view of this mushroom with a multiple millennia long tradition of human use.We get into the politics and the pressure points of being in the Amanita space, as well as the extraordinary potential that this natural remedy has and how it helped Christian personally in his journey to recovery from a crippling Benzo addiction.Please rate and review this episode wherever you're listening ( : Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Grabado a finales de diciembre 25 con [erick], ferdopa y Sabio. En este episodio directamente entramos a hacer un repaso a lo mejor del año de todas las categorías propuestas por Benzo en la noticia publicada en portada de EOL. https://www.elotrolado.net/noticias/otros/eol-vota-lo-mejor-de-2024 Si quieres ver lo que han votado los usuarios de la web puedes hacerlo en la noticia publicada el día 4 de Enero, verás que hay bastante similitudes. https://www.elotrolado.net/noticias/otros/resultados-eol-vota-lo-mejor-de-2024 Con este episodio cerramos el 2024 y empezamos el 2025 que prometemos que habrá más podcast, más juegos, más risas y mucho EOL. Siempre mucho EOL. En el podcast suena un remix de PlayStation 1 Medley por Ivan Hakštok https://soundcloud.com/haki-1/playstation-1-medley

Show notes at pharmacyjoe.com/episode982. In this episode, I'll discuss whether psychotropic medications other than benzodiazepines enhance respiratory depression from opioids. The post 982: Do Non-Benzo Psychotropic Medications Enhance Respiratory Depression From Opioids? appeared first on Pharmacy Joe.

Entretien avec le rappeur congolais Teddy Benzo. Il prépare son prochain album solo et un album avec un autre artiste congolais Mixton ; et avec MikL et Nesly qui se produiront sur la scène du Zénith, à Paris le 28 décembre 2024. Phoner : Ziemongo Soro, commissaire général du SACRE PORO (Salon des créations et savoir-faire du Poro), qui aura lieu du 13 au 15 décembre 2024 à Korhogo, en Côte d'Ivoire. Et le blind-test enregistré avec Saïan Supa Célébration, le 27 novembre 2024. Pour visionner les clips, cliquez sur les titres des chansons :LiveSaïan Supa Célébration - EtrangersNesly et MikL - AlchimieNesly - Petit coeurMikL - Ma womanTeddy Benzo feat Poison Mobutu - Danse ya ba bossTeddy Benzo feat Mixton - LVNB (Les vieux là nous bloquent)Tiwony - Droits de l'HommeRetrouvez notre playlist sur Deezer. 

Entretien avec le rappeur congolais Teddy Benzo. Il prépare son prochain album solo et un album avec un autre artiste congolais Mixton ; et avec MikL et Nesly qui se produiront sur la scène du Zénith, à Paris le 28 décembre 2024. Phoner : Ziemongo Soro, commissaire général du SACRE PORO (Salon des créations et savoir-faire du Poro), qui aura lieu du 13 au 15 décembre 2024 à Korhogo, en Côte d'Ivoire. Et le blind-test enregistré avec Saïan Supa Célébration, le 27 novembre 2024. Pour visionner les clips, cliquez sur les titres des chansons :LiveSaïan Supa Célébration - EtrangersNesly et MikL - AlchimieNesly - Petit coeurMikL - Ma womanTeddy Benzo feat Poison Mobutu - Danse ya ba bossTeddy Benzo feat Mixton - LVNB (Les vieux là nous bloquent)Tiwony - Droits de l'HommeRetrouvez notre playlist sur Deezer. 

Clonazolam has to be one of the most powerful benzos in the world. This story showcases how strong it really is...

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155, more convos more guests. Thug says he ain't cool Gunna but apparently he didn't snitch. Parents are charging rent like we asked to be here as well; the cheek on them, can you imagine? Oh we lied, there is no guest. Hus, Benzo and T9, the usual suspects

Grabado el 2 de Octubre con Alejo I, [erick], ferdopa, scylla, Benzo y jiXo, presentado por Monthyp, Sabio estuvo pero no pudo participar, necesita un micro "Hay pocos sitios de España que tengan el honor de haber cumplido 25 años EOL es uno de ellos. Desde sus inicios como sitio de parches para PSX a la actualidad hemos sido testigos de la evolución de una industria (y un Internet) que poco tiene que ver con el Salvaje Oeste de antaño, y hemos dedicado un episodio especial de nuestro podcast para hablar de ello. Al micrófono, las voces de jiXo, Benzo, Ferdopa, Erick, Monthy, Scylla, Sabio (que se nos cayó nada más entrar) y un servidor. Esperamos que lo disfrutéis." Alejo I https://www.elotrolado.net/noticias/otros/eol-25-aniversario Musica del podcat PlayStation 1 Medley por Ivan Hakštok https://soundcloud.com/haki-1/playstation-1-medley Gracias a Iratxe por la intro 😍

Grabado el 12 de septiembre de 2024. Presenta Tipoduro con la participación de Sabio, Ferdopa y [erick]. En este episodio hablamos de la nueva consola PlayStation 5 Pro que anunció Sony el pasado 10 de septiembre. Hacemos un repaso a todo lo jugado, leído y visto durante estos meses de verano y rápidamente nos ponemos con la noticia de la nueva PlayStation 5 Pro. La noticia publicada por Benzo sacudió EOL, portada y los foros de PlayStation, muchos comentarios y reacciones comentando el precio, la ausencia de disco duro y la verdadera necesidad de una edición Pro y si verdaderamente le vamos a sacar partido. De todo eso y más damos nuestra opinión en este nuevo episodio. Además de escuchar nuestra opinión puedes leer la de los eolianos en las noticias y en el foro. https://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_hilo-oficial-ps5-pro_2480886 https://www.elotrolado.net/noticias/consolas/ps5-pro-presentacion-tecnica https://www.elotrolado.net/noticias/consolas/ps5-pro-precio-fecha-especificaciones En el podcast suena PlayStation 1 Medley por Ivan Hakstok https://soundcloud.com/haki-1/playstation-1-medley

I LOVED chatting with Marley, y'all. Her story is wild, tragic, heart breaking and heart warming. From dancing at age 18 to help save the family home to performing sex work while dope sick to grand larceny and benzo black outs - Marley's story is a story of triumph, personal growth and why we never stop trying. Marley went to 21 treatment centers before accumulating her current sobriety time. Let me know what you guys think!! Thank you all so much for listening and being a part of my life :) Connect with Marley on Tiktok Connect with Jeannine on TikTok Connect with Jeannine on Instagram Join our Private Facebook Group --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jeannine-coulter-lindgren/message

This guy drugged his daughters friends with Benzo smoothies at a sleepover and now he wants you to feel bad for him

On today's episode, Rich sits down with Brandon Novak – Professional Skateboarder, MTV celebrity, alumnus of the Jackass motion picture series, star of the CKY skateboard video series, and author of the best-selling memoir “Dreamseller.” Brandon gives back by helping people into treatment celebrating 9 years clean and nearly 6 years tobacco free. He relates to millions of people across the US; 1 in 4 to be exact, who are directly affected by addiction in their family. He travels the country as one of the most in-demand addiction keynote speakers, bringing awareness and education to high schools across the nation. Brandon has impacted hundreds of thousands of lives through his story of sobriety.Rich and Brandon start off by discussing Mikey Taylor and Brandon Turner (the skateboarder), the synchronicity of life events and meeting Tony Hawk, Bucky Lasek and growing up in Baltimore, skateboarding and high intensity workouts, Brandon's journey into the Jackass movies, Brandon's worst injury on set, and Brandon share's an anecdote of stealing a doctor's script. They then reflect on Brandon's drug usage, Rich's journey through a Xanax addiction, Benzo addictions, prescribing drugs to children, and muscle memory.Lastly, they talk about happiness in growth and progress, the covid pandemic, Brandon's family history, the power of a smile, Brandon's anecdote about an abandoned house, how the abnormal becomes the normal, their journey to sobriety, full circle moments, being the best version of ourselves, the confidence that sobriety creates, and realistic ways to become sober.Connect with Brandon on Instagram: @brandon__novakIf you or a loved one are suffering with addiction call or text Brandon at (610) 314-6747--Connect with Rich on Instagram: @rich_somersInterested in investing with Somers Capital? Visit www.somerscapital.com/invest to learn more. Interested in joining our Boutique Hotel Mastermind? Visit www.somerscapital.com/mastermind to book a free call. Interested in STR/Boutique Hotel Management? Visit www.excelsiorstays.com/management to book a free call.

This week, H and Benzo sit down with GP and Lanners to talk about the importance owning your content, creating and building a team, filming videos for Southampton based artists and the behind the scenes of their time filming and contributions to the Pen Game Rap Battle. Tap in!Guest: @lanners_@thagpway1111@thagpnetworkLet us know what you thought!Support the Show.Follow us on Instagram to stay up to date!@nothingbutmusicpod@husain.m8@blogbybenzo

Benzo Dope is a scary, new street drug that is slowly taking over. With Tranq being a huge problem, this one isn't far behind. It is found a lot through drug testing and samples from overdose cases. It is an illicitly manufactured benzodiazepine and opioid combination. The artificial drug contains fentanyl, Xanax, Valium, Klonopin, and sometimes other illegal drugs.

This week, H and Benzo talk to Kane Hayter about his start in music, who he considers his GOATS of real rap are, his passion for music and where this stems from, being from Southampton and discuss where he feels he fits within the music scene and so much more. Tap in!Guest:@kane_hayterofficialLet us know what you thought!Support the Show.Follow us on Instagram to stay up to date!@nothingbutmusicpod@husain.m8@blogbybenzo

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This week, H and Benzo chat with JXEYBOY about the importance of your online and offline image as an artist, building a core fanbase, networking with other Southampton based artists & winning Who Holds Weight, we also get his takes on the current music scene and what he listens to and so much more. Tap in!Guest:@jxeyboyLet us know what you thought!Support the Show.Follow us on Instagram to stay up to date!@nothingbutmusicpod@husain.m8@blogbybenzo

Hoy charlamos con Diego Benzo e Isabel (Chavi) Vaccarezza, esposos desde hace 17 años y padres de 7 hijos. La familia de Chavi era muy devota a los ángeles y ella mamó esta devoción desde chica. Al poco tiempo de casarse, Diego y Chavi se consagraron a sus respectivos ángeles de la guarda y a todos los ángeles. En este episodio conversamos acerca de estos seres espirituales creados por Dios, que aunque son una realidad de Fe dentro de la Iglesia Católica, sabemos muy poco de ellos. Diego y Chavi nos comparten lo que fueron aprendiendo, de la relación que tienen con su ángel de la guarda y cómo los ángeles pueden ayudarnos a acercarnos más a Dios. Diego es Ingeniero industrial y Chavi, profesora de Bellas artes. Son miembros de la Obra de los Santos Ángeles (Opus Sanctorum Angelorum), un movimiento internacional dentro de la Iglesia Católica fiel al Magisterio. Esta busca promover la devoción a los santos ángeles y el vínculo de alianza con ellos mediante una consagración aprobada por la Iglesia, para que los santos ángeles nos conduzcan más eficazmente a Dios. La Obra está bajo la dirección general de la Orden de Canónigos Regulares de la Santa Cruz, bajo la cual también se ha erigido la Cofradía de los Santos Ángeles Custodios. Las Hermanas de la Santa Cruz están agregadas a la Orden y, aunque autónomas, forman con ella una sola familia espiritual. “No tengo plata ni oro, pero te doy lo que tengo”: un espacio donde encontrarnos con el que verdaderamente nos llena, para que nos tome de la mano, nos levante y nos ponga en camino nuevamente. Somos Sol, Colo y Tere, con el apoyo del Pbro. Gastón Lorenzo, Parroquia Católica Nuestra Señora del Pilar, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Entrevistamos a personas que nos comparten su vida y nos ayudan a profundizar nuestra fe. Contactate con nosotros: ⁠⁠podcastdelpilar@gmail.com⁠⁠ Contactate la Obra de los Santos Angeles: https://opusangelorum.org/ (Internacional) https://opusangelorum.com.co/ (Hispanoamérica) https://opusangelorum.com.co/argentina-2/ (Argentina)   Música: - Cortina musical: "Tan pobre y tan rico"· Jóvenes Catedral de San Isidro. Álbum: “Hazte canto”. - Canción final: "Canción a mi ángel de la guarda". Letra basada en la oracion al Angel de la Guarda. Musica: Magda Vaccarezza. Interpretada por Magda Vaccarezza y Heidi Fauth. 2019.   Este podcast está realizado a beneficio de la Fundación Nuestra Señora del Pilar, que acompaña a niños, adolescentes y mujeres en estado de vulnerabilidad en Buenos Aires, Argentina. Te invitamos a colaborar con esta obra.  ⁠⁠Hacé click acá para donar⁠⁠, o entrá a la ⁠⁠página de la Fundación⁠⁠ para conocer más acerca de la fundación y otras formas de ayudar. Muchas gracias.

This week, H and Benzo are back chatting to Reshaine (Rai2Rai) about the early days of his music journey, his parent's influence on the music he makes, creating a 'hub' for creativity and tying together artists, content creators, photographers and other creatives under his "SYN" group and discuss the ongoing beef between J Cole, Drake and Kendrick Lamar. Tap in!Guest:@reshaine22@synsound9Let us know what you thought!Support the Show.Follow us on Instagram to stay up to date!@nothingbutmusicpod@husain.m8@blogbybenzo

Welcome back to Analyze Scripts, where a psychiatrist and a therapist analyze what Hollywood gets right and wrong about mental health. Today, we are rereleasing our episode covering "White Lotus" Season 1. Who doesn't love this show?! In this episode, we dig into the toxic interpersonal dynamics depicted in all of the relationships amongst the main characters. We spend a lot of time analyzing Tanya's manipulation of Belinda and discuss which behaviors are consistent with borderline personality disorder (BPD). We also explore what keeps Rachel and Mark connected to Shane and Nicole, respectively, and poke fun at Olivia's "wokeness." We hope you enjoy! PS RIP Armond.[00:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: Hi, I'm Dr. Katrina Fury, a psychiatrist.[00:12] Portia Pendleton: And I'm Portia Pendleton, a licensed clinical social worker.[00:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: And this is Analyze Scripts, a podcast where two shrinks analyze the depiction of mental health in movies and TV shows.[00:23] Portia Pendleton: Our hope is that you learn some legit info about mental health while feeling like you're chatting with your girlfriend.[00:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: There is so much misinformation out there, and it drives us nuts.[00:32] Portia Pendleton: And if someday we pay off our student loans or land a sponsorship, like.[00:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: With a lay flat airline or a major beauty brand, even better.[00:39] Portia Pendleton: So sit back, relax, grab some popcorn.[00:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And your DSM Five, and enjoy. Hi, welcome back. We are so excited you're joining us today to talk about the hit HBO show White Lotus Season One, as part of our Jennifer Coolidge July Celebration. We hope everyone had a really wonderful July 4 weekend, and we hope you ate all the hot dogs you could get your hands on. Yeah, I did. Porsche. I want to start a little differently than usual because something just really interesting happened to me during my July 4 celebration. Okay. I went with my family to Legoland, which is a really wonderful place for little kids. And on July 4, they had this whole celebration. They had really cool fireworks with 3D glasses, where when the fireworks exploded, they looked like Legos. I thought that was really cool, and I was really trying to figure out the science because not every light was connected to a Lego. So it had something to do with the frequency and the electrons, and I just get really nerdy about these things. But then they also had a fire dancer, right? Like, would you expect that at a child theme park? No. And so we Legoland.[01:58] Portia Pendleton: Maybe like Disney World.[01:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, they had a fire dancer. They were really pulling out all the stops. They also had the Brick Street Boys, because everything is like brick themed with the Lego brick, everything's brick tastic. And, you know, I love the Max Tree Boys, so that was titillating. But this fire dancer, we stumbled across her as we were leaving, and obviously we had to stop and watch her and just imagine she is like five foot zero at the most. Like, on a good day. She's itty bitty, teeny tiny, wearing a full on white unitard, like full on bodysuit with red and white horizontal stripes, so she looks like a firecracker. And then she had this beautiful bleach blonde hair, but with these long, long bangs and these bright red lips.[02:49] Portia Pendleton: Oh, no.[02:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I kept worrying, like, is her hair going to catch on fire? Right? I was just like, I loved her look, her hair is wonderful.[02:56] Portia Pendleton: Or it is.[02:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: I don't know. I would think your hair would catch on fire. But then I think also, like, the fire they use has got to be not real fire because then she starts, like, eating it. So she's also maybe a fire eater.[03:08] Portia Pendleton: Okay.[03:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: So I just thought it was really fascinating because she's, like, in this awesome outfit, a little sensual for Legoland, the theme park and doing these moves that are not, like, seductive per se, but sensual with fire. It was just really interesting to see all these children watching this. And what I loved is the music she picked first, obviously. Miley Cyrus partying in the USA. Getting her fire going. Sometimes the flames would go out because it was a little windy and she had, like, all sorts of different fire sticks. And then do you know this song that's like the grand finale song. It was like, Partying USA. Yeah. She's, like, dancing around with her little fire sticks, and then she transitions to the fans. It's like a fire fan. And she lights each one slowly and kind of seductively to that song that's like, light them up, light them up, light them up. And it was just like, wonderful. I don't know, it was just really interesting.[04:08] Portia Pendleton: That's making me think of the yes.[04:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: The hula dancing in white Lotus. I know. And I was just like it didn't feel like cultural appropriation, I guess, in this case. Although in White Lotus it kind of does, right? So I don't know. It was just really interesting having a fire dancer at a child's theme park. Kind of very sensual, really. Like maybe pushing the line, but not quite. And then I just kept worrying her hair was going to catch on fire. My children would see this awful, traumatic thing. And then she ended by eating the fire. And then my son was like, does she **** fire? And I was like, great question, great question, great question. Right? And then I was like, does her esophagus get burned? What are the ins and outs of being a fire dancer? What are the hazards of the trade?[05:00] Portia Pendleton: There's got to be I mean, there's a risk of being burned, right?[05:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Is it like, just real fire or is it some sort of special fire for fire dancers that's safe to consume?[05:12] Portia Pendleton: I have no idea.[05:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: No idea. So if anyone knows, DM us and let us know.[05:16] Portia Pendleton: Fire.[05:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: Speaking of things that are hot, white Lotus, super hot show.[05:23] Portia Pendleton: Jennifer coolidge.[05:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: Super hot. Like, at all stages of life, she is the queen. So, yeah. Where do you want to start?[05:31] Portia Pendleton: I think we have to start with Tanya. I mean, all weekend, it's just so relevant. I kept wanting to do the on.[05:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: A hot dog real bad. Yeah. Which I think is from legally blood. Yes. But we'll cover that next time. Gosh. Jennifer coolidge.[05:52] Portia Pendleton: So we see her making her way to the White Lotus resort by herself, and then we learn that she has her mother's ashes in tow. Seems like it was a recent death from how she's acting appropriately during grief. It's coming in and out. Sometimes she's fine, other times she's really upset and her idea is to kind of leave some of the ashes in the water off the coast of Hawaii.[06:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Which sounds beautiful. And I feel like people do that. People do that. But we see her sort of disembark that little tiny boat that's coming to the white Lotus with all the employees just waving and smiling. I loved how this series ended with them doing that again, except now we know more of the backstory and that made me really sad to see they're all there fake smiles, and she's just kind of a mess from the jump.[06:46] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. We see her pretty quickly at the spa right down there. And she really wants an appointment.[06:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: They don't have any. She's kind of freaking out, kind of pushy. And then Belinda, the lovely spa manager, or maybe just employee, makes room for her. Right. So right away we see some boundary pushing and crossing with Tanya McQuad and Belinda, which we just see continue.[07:14] Portia Pendleton: So it kind of starts their relationship. Right. I mean, again, I'm using relationship with air quotes right now because relationships are really two ways.[07:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. But I think, as we see with Tanya, this is a one way relationship. And I think that's a theme we see carried through for a lot of these different characters.[07:32] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So Belinda provides a service to Tanya that Tanya believes is like, life changing. And she's healed now immediately. And she wants to spend as much time as possible with Belinda, who is doing her job and becomes pretty pushy and almost so manipulative. It doesn't get sooner right off the bat with the money right. And her opening a spot together that comes a little later, like midway through the season. But you can just see Tanya's needs very needy, trying to kind of do whatever she wants, crossing inappropriate employee guest boundaries. You can see Belinda feels uncomfortable but.[08:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Goes along with it.[08:15] Portia Pendleton: A really high end place where I'm like, I feel like this probably in some ways is a norm. Like, you go above and beyond for a guest.[08:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: There's probably a lot of entitlement, which I think we see maybe especially with Shane kind of with all of them, though, there's a huge sense of entitlement. And we see Belinda sort of bend over backwards to make room for Tanya right at the start. And then Tanya idealizes her right away. Belinda is the be all and end all. The greatest thing that ever happened to her. She wants to shout it from the rooftops. And how did you feel, Portia, watching that? Did you start to get icky feelings or nervous feelings?[08:55] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I mean, I was very uncomfortable with her immediately making room for her at the spa.[09:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: Me, too.[09:02] Portia Pendleton: Again, I mean, the show I'm like, okay, this is clearly intentional. And I think it was hard, just as a side note, to separate Tanya from Jennifer Coolidge, because I love Jennifer Coolidge so much.[09:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: I don't like that for real.[09:16] Portia Pendleton: Tanya, you do you but, yeah, Tanya definitely made me feel like icky.[09:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Do you think that's because we're in mental health and so we're picking up on the splitting and the idealization and we know the devaluation will come, do you think the average person without that point of view would necessarily pick that up right away?[09:35] Portia Pendleton: Not in the same way. They might be turned off by her. Just from, like, entitlement.[09:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. And, like, the pushiness right.[09:42] Portia Pendleton: Versus, like, maybe the why or, like, you know, it being idealization and then waiting, like you said, for their to come devaluation, which sucks. And and Belinda was very, like, devastated at the end.[09:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: So I think, you know, they talk.[09:56] Portia Pendleton: About which we'll get into more, but borderline personality disorder. Tanya feels a little borderline to me.[10:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right as I was watching it, I got really nervous for Belinda because I just already was getting that borderline personality disorder flavor from Tanya. And that quick idealization is like a telltale sign. Even if you don't meet full criteria for a Bpd, which is the acronym for borderline personality disorder, often that quick idealization, I think we learned pretty early in our training, like, when you have a new patient who's just like, oh, my gosh, no psychiatrist has ever helped me in the way you're helping me. You're the better, amazing. Can I pay you more? Can I write you a good review? Blah, blah, blah. You learn to think, oh, there's something up here. Right.[10:43] Portia Pendleton: And it's hard because sometimes I think people's traits are more what do I want to say? Like, hidden, where it's like you might always see the positive side. You might be always idealized by someone for years yes. And have no idea. And all of a sudden, there's like, a switch flip, as, again, happens throughout the six episodes that we see with Belinda and Tanya. But sometimes we have no idea, and other times it's so big, it's like fast friends and people can be fast friends, but sometimes fast friends is really.[11:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Just like some love bomb a little. Yeah, exactly.[11:19] Portia Pendleton: Personality disorder.[11:20] Dr. Katrina Furey: And you're so right. It really depends on what side of the split you're on. So, again, people with Bpd traits or borderline personality disorder, much like we see here with Tanya, really see things in a black or white way, and they feel things that way. That's sort of their thoughts. We've talked about that in prior episodes, so you're either all good or all bad. It's hard for them to sort of see you as a mix of both, and that reflects their inability to see themselves as a mix of both. So if you're on the good side of the split, like you said for years, you can be like that, and then something might happen, like a late fee or a perceived insensitivity to something they're saying. Or it could be something big, it could be something small. Then you're very quickly devalued and on the bad side of the split. And that sucks. That feels real bad. Sometimes you're on the bad side of the split right away and you know it. And that's why it's very helpful to treat patients with these traits as a team. So then all team members can kind of support each other and also see sort of the clinical pathology and a fuller view. But we see that right away with Tanya idealizing Belinda. And I was just waiting for her to meet a man and drop Belinda as quick as possible. And unfortunately, we see that happen.[12:36] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. And I think, too, I was curious.[12:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Of who?[12:40] Portia Pendleton: Jennifer Kuf. Tanya. Tanya.[12:43] Dr. Katrina Furey: Tanya.[12:43] Portia Pendleton: Tanya would also interact with, like, of the other guests.[12:47] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah.[12:48] Portia Pendleton: And then, you know, that's a great point. Her her lover Greg kind of came out of nowhere. You know, he wasn't like, one of the main cast members. So I think that was just, like, interesting.[12:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: But her and Wise writing right. That it wasn't like someone she met on the ship or it wasn't anyone she'd even formed a minimal connection with. It was like, accidental by chance. Really quick, hot and heavy. That's how it goes.[13:10] Portia Pendleton: Very intense. So intense emotions are, again, pretty common with a lot of personality disorders, but specifically with Bpd. And also just thinking about what we learn from Tanya's past, she alludes to her mother having Bpd. Yes, there are some genetic markers of Bpd, but also it's just really hard. Again, with attachment. Yes, there's a lot of attachment trauma in patients who have borderline personality disorder.[13:35] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. And so right. So if Tanya, when they're on the little boat, she's supposed to spread the ashes and they're with Shane and Rachel. I love that so much. And she's, like, kind of given a eulogy of sorts and talking about her deceased mom, I was like, all of this tracks again, a plus. Writing like this track, this sort of upbringing would potentially lead to someone displaying behaviors and traits that Tanya is. So her mom, who was obsessed with men, and it sounds like, would often prioritize her romantic relationships over her relationship with Tanya. And then we see that play out when she meets Greg and she even says, like, you said that her mom has Bpd. And you do sort of learn how to behave as an adult from your early attachment figures and what's modeled for you. So why wouldn't she display some of these traits? I would imagine that her mom would have been a bigger personality disorder, and Tanya still has those traits, and we see them, but maybe I'm imagining her mom would have been even more big.[14:41] Portia Pendleton: I feel like, also maybe more cruel. Yeah. Tanya, I think it's almost like, has the lacking self awareness, and it's really, like, self centered. It's like only her needs are the most important. I also don't think that that's intentional. I think she's just, like, moving through.[14:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: Life, like, trying not malicious. Right? Yeah, I totally agree. It doesn't feel like logan. Roy.[15:01] Portia Pendleton: Right.[15:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I wonder if her mom did or if her mom was like the mom from succession. That's a great point, Portia. And again, what you just brought up I thought was really interesting. Like, which of the other guests did she interact with? Now that I'm thinking about it, I feel like it was the ones who were younger than her. It wasn't like the Moss Bach or family parents.[15:18] Portia Pendleton: Right.[15:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: It wasn't really Armand, except to get Belinda. Belinda. It was like Belinda was the only adult she interacted with to get her needs met. There was also a racial difference, which I thought was important and interesting, and.[15:32] Portia Pendleton: A socioeconomic difference huge.[15:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: And again, I feel like Tanya ends up connecting herself to people who use her while she's using them. So her relationships are very transactional. Right. And I just think that makes a lot of sense. Even if she's not maliciously using people unconsciously, she is, but then she's also picking people who are like belinda was kind of doing that with her, too, right. Like, she was like, oh, maybe I could get my own spot and finally living out that dream. Yeah, it was really interesting.[16:07] Portia Pendleton: And then Tanya interacts with Olivia and Paula, just, like, commenting on their appearance and their skin.[16:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right.[16:14] Portia Pendleton: So it's so porcelain. She's, like, trying to feel their faces, and they're like this ladies.[16:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. And they're, like, young and beautiful and yeah. Again, just interesting people to try to attach to. It makes me wonder what psychological age Tanya is. Yes. We often think of chronological age as being different from your psychological age. And sometimes I feel like I hear this in society and in the media of child stars, you kind of get stuck at the age you became famous, and I think that might be related to the trauma of fame. And I feel like we do see that. Right? Do you see that? That people seem sort of psychologically stuck at the age of trauma occurred or something like that?[16:56] Portia Pendleton: No, definitely. And I think, too, in Tanya's character, it feels way more, I don't know, intense where she's stuck, like, in childhood versus maybe some other patients I can think off the top of my head that I've interacted who have Bpd, where she just even, like her temper tantrums.[17:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right.[17:16] Portia Pendleton: It's like she's so good at playing being a child when she's seeking reassurance so frequently, she's, like, following Greg around, literally hiding. I was like, I mean, it's comical because of the show, but it's like she is acting like a child.[17:30] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. Like a five year old, maybe. Yeah, 100%. And even with Greg, like, when she was finally like, I'm going to peel.[17:36] Portia Pendleton: Back all the layers of the onion.[17:38] Dr. Katrina Furey: And really let him see it. And she did. She let it all out. And I felt like that was a great depiction of the sort of core fear of patients with Bpd, of abandonment and loss and attachment. This sort of I hate you, but don't leave me. Like, I'm going to leave you first because it would hurt too much if you left me, but don't leave me.[17:58] Portia Pendleton: Or I'm going to give you an excuse to leave.[18:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes.[18:00] Portia Pendleton: By acting. Right? I'm acting in this huge way. I'm pushing you away intentionally. So then I have a reason. Okay. I know why.[18:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Or sort of like a test. Right. And Greg stayed. And I think she interprets that as like true love. I think he just wanted to have sex.[18:16] Portia Pendleton: I think he just wanted to have sex. I'm not sure if he saw it going anywhere further than that night. But then I'm thinking and I have not watched season two, so I'm saying this kind of blind, but I also think that based on what he had done for a living, which is not being an activist for Black Lives Matter.[18:33] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I loved that. Hilarious.[18:36] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, it was so funny.[18:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: Belinda. He's with the BLM. And then Belinda's like, okay.[18:42] Portia Pendleton: Because in her face while he's telling her that, she's just like, oh, how'd.[18:48] Dr. Katrina Furey: She get into that? I love that whole dinner conversation. We're just like, how'd she get into activism? And he's like, what? Yeah.[18:53] Portia Pendleton: So he's in, like, wildlife, it seems, management, fisheries, something like that. In Colorado, in the west. Because then she's like, oh, well, when I'm in Aspen, let's meet up. And I think then for him, he's seeing, in my opinion, this opportunity to be with someone who seems a little damaged to him. He now then maybe can take advantage.[19:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: Of for her money. Right. In hearing that, he was like, this got money. There's something up here. I was really worried about Greg and all his coughing fits. Yeah. And I'm like, do you have COPD? Do you have a lung tumor? Why are you coughing? Do you have asthma? What is going on?[19:29] Portia Pendleton: I forgot about that.[19:30] Dr. Katrina Furey: I kept being really nervous he was going to drop down, like, while they were having sex or soon after or.[19:35] Portia Pendleton: Right after they were connecting. Right. And then another person leaving her in the ultimate way.[19:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. I was really worried about that happening. So I wonder if the writers were always, like, teasing us with that or if that might come later. I don't really know. But again, she quickly attaches herself to Greg, who doesn't feel like a secure, healthy attachment figure. And again, it's like, I can't really put my finger on why I'm just getting a vibe. He's not it.[20:04] Portia Pendleton: He doesn't seem safe for her.[20:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. But she is immediately attracted to him, like a magnet. And I think for me, watching this whole series that was like the thing that kept crossing my mind is like, why are these characters attracted to who they're attracted to when it's so clear that these are kind of like unhealthy relationship dynamics, but they don't leave. And I think we really see that with Shane and Rachel.[20:26] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So yeah, I mean, with Rachel and Shane Patton, I feel like I have a hot take with that. I don't like Rachel and I prefer Shane.[20:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: What?[20:40] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I know.[20:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, your team Shane? Yeah. I don't think anyone's team Shane.[20:46] Portia Pendleton: I know, and I don't know what that says about me, but that's okay. So I just think that Rachel needs to get her stuff together and it bothers me. And maybe this is something I can talk about in supervision or therapy, why it bothers me so much, but I'm just like, come on, girl. Shane is not hiding himself that well.[21:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's true.[21:07] Portia Pendleton: This sociopathic, malignant narcissist, he's a **** up, rich, spoiled brat boy who married her because she's beautiful and has a lot of money. And it's just like now all of a sudden she's like seeing it and I'm just like really?[21:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. I don't think it was hidden before, although I guess sometimes I have heard of some relationships and again, I don't think this is uncommon, where you think you're marrying one person and then it's like the mask falls off. So maybe that happened, but Shane doesn't seem smart right, for that to have been the case.[21:38] Portia Pendleton: And he seems like he has zero.[21:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like a frat boy, like he's wearing his, what, like Cornell hat or something, which I'm sure he got in by having a legacy generational tie. Yeah, I don't think he doesn't strike me as the kind of narcissist to be smart enough to hide that very well. It's really out there again, he's like living his authentic self. I guess. So maybe it sounds like maybe that's why you're annoyed with her.[22:04] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I don't know. And then you told me about his mom.[22:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: I love Molly Shannon so much and everything. And then when she showed up, right, like he'd called her over and over and over, being so annoyed. Get the pineapple sweet.[22:20] Portia Pendleton: Even though they got like this other.[22:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Beautiful sweet, and just like a child having a temper tantrum, going to mommy, then she shows up. Can you imagine if your mother in law showed up on your honeymoon?[22:32] Portia Pendleton: I can't think of how that would ever be okay.[22:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: You know what I mean?[22:37] Portia Pendleton: And he's just like, mom, her face is just like, this is not happening.[22:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right?[22:42] Portia Pendleton: Is this real? Is this a mirage from being in Hawai or in the sun?[22:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: All the pina coladas? Yeah. And then it's just like you get the sense that Shane and his mom Kitty are enmeshed and then you really see just how enmeshed they are. Yes. And she's like, well, I'm going to this other place with my best friend from all time, but I thought I'd stop here first. I hope that's okay. And you can see Rachel's just like, I have to say it's okay, but it's really not.[23:06] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, and her face is so obvious, too, which maybe she is, but again, you're not even trying to hide your disdain, which I get. Again, that's like super appropriate, but within their context. Again, that's why I'm like, come on, how did you not see this?[23:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know, but maybe it's like, now she's really seeing it. Maybe there was some shred of suppression or denial that was keeping her in the relationship with Shane. Again, with this series, I'm so curious about why do they stay connected to these people? And it's like, I think Shane was connected to her for her beauty. That's her power. And then she, I think, is connected to him because of his money and the privilege and the access. And she says that bopping around New York City was really fun, and now she's realizing there's like a price to pay for that privilege. It's like golden handcuffs and Kitty's part of the deal. And I also thought that the actresses portrayed that mother in law, daughter in law competition so well, more so from Kitty's perspective, you could tell that the fact that she was beautiful really bothered her. Right. That now she's not the number one woman in his life.[24:13] Portia Pendleton: I want to know if there's a dad.[24:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: Divorced, if he's alive, or if.[24:20] Portia Pendleton: She had always the money.[24:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: So she said she had family money. I remember she was telling Rachel that that's why, like, if she and her husband ever split up, she'd be okay because she did have family money to fall back on. Sort of like bragging, because she knows Rachel doesn't. But then it sounds like whoever the dad is had more money. Yeah, I don't know. Actually, that's really interesting that there was no mention of him at all, especially.[24:41] Portia Pendleton: With just like mother son dynamic. Then. Is that why they're so enmeshed? Would they have been less if there was like a third family member? He seems again, I don't think there's other kids. He seems like an only child, or.[24:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: At least they don't talk about him if there are.[24:55] Portia Pendleton: I mean, that too can just happen to a parent child. It's a different type of relationship than if you have two parents or siblings.[25:04] Dr. Katrina Furey: Or things like that. Yeah, that's actually a really interesting point. But they were so funny, though, when Kitty and Shane and Rachel are all at that dinner and Rachel is already having an identity cris, and now here's her mother in law, who's like I think she's like, oh, God, this is what I'm going to be, or what Shane wants me to be. And I don't know if that's who I want to be. And they're all like, why don't you want to be this? This is great. And they're doing like that money, money dance while the Hula people are hooling in the background. It was so sickening. And you could see on rachel's face. She's like, oh, my God, you guys are doing this in public. But that's who they are, right? And they're also not hiding it like any shred, right? Any shred.[25:42] Portia Pendleton: So that juxtaposition. Juxtaposition. After we talk to and meet Kai and knowing that the land was taken and that a lot of them work there and that his family is mad because he works there, because some people don't and protest so and so forth, we have that whole storyline kind of going off to the side. And then the patent family are just like, money, money. Watching the people who live there, that it's a part of their culture and meaningful, this performance that they're just like singing to. Money.[26:07] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right? Yeah. Again. Beautiful Juxtaposition. Beautiful writing. Definitely makes you feel icky.[26:16] Portia Pendleton: But yeah, I mean, Shane is not lovable, right? Like, he flirts with underage girls in front of Rachel, literally on their honeymoon. Like, that's gross.[26:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's gross. And such a power move. I can't remember now if she was already sort of expressing some hesitations or some unhappiness on the honeymoon, if he was sort of like showing her like, whatever, I'll be fine, kind of thing, or if he didn't know, if he really couldn't comprehend why she'd be hurt by that.[26:42] Portia Pendleton: Right. It was weird. And then when she's telling him, I mean, again, I don't know if anyone else felt this way or if I was the only one in the world watching, but I felt sorry for him. He had no idea from this point because he has zero self awareness. He had not a clue, which is, again, like, shocking because it's so obvious, right.[27:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: He wasn't picking up any and so.[27:05] Portia Pendleton: When she's telling him, basically, I don't like you, and I just I think.[27:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: I made a mistake. Yeah, like, he's sad because, like, again.[27:11] Portia Pendleton: Like, duh, you are going to be sad. And he's just like, Why? What do you mean? And it's funny. I mean, it's comedy not but his just whole and then he's being gaslit by Armand because he's right. Like, they did book that room. Armand is kind of messing with him.[27:27] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's true.[27:27] Portia Pendleton: He gets a free boat ride. It was Jennifer Tanya. It was Tanya paid for it. That's why he said it was free. It was not free.[27:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right.[27:34] Portia Pendleton: And then he knew that she was having this, like, a moment.[27:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: Well, he did that on purpose to get back. Exactly. Driving him nuts.[27:40] Portia Pendleton: Exactly.[27:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: But again, you're right. Like, Shane was correct. They didn't get the correct room. They did pay for it. They should at least get, like, the refund. But the fact that Shane is, like, so checking over and over, it's so annoying to me. And entitled and like, dude, just enjoy your honeymoon.[27:57] Portia Pendleton: But he can't.[27:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: He can't if he doesn't get what he feels like he deserves. I mean, it's like the perfect depiction of entitlement. And then that just dynamic between. Armand and Shane just keeps continuing. And they keep shane, I feel like, just keeps up in the ante. Up in the ante, up in the ant. Like, he just won't let it go. And he's just really getting under Armand's skin. And you imagine Armand's probably worked there for a long time. He's what, five or six years sober until he falls off the wagon because he finds the bag with all the.[28:28] Portia Pendleton: Drugs in it after Shane.[28:31] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's just Shane pushing and pushing and pushing it.[28:33] Portia Pendleton: But Shane is a trigger.[28:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And I would imagine he has dealt with Shane day in and day out, like for years. And he just can't take it anymore. The last Shane, the last straw. And it literally is the last Shane. Because unfortunately, Armod dies at the beginning.[28:49] Portia Pendleton: Do you see that coming?[28:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: I mean, obviously we knew someone died because it opens with I thought it.[28:55] Portia Pendleton: Was Rachel because of Shane in the airport was like, no, I'm alone. I was like, It's Rachel.[29:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I was worried she maybe committed suicide or something. I didn't see it coming until the final scene where he's like pooping in.[29:08] Portia Pendleton: Suitcase after the dinner service.[29:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right?[29:11] Portia Pendleton: He's like, he's so manic from drugs and doing cocaine all night.[29:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: And that's my favorite line of the whole show when he comes back. And he's like, that was the best ******* dinner seating of all time.[29:22] Portia Pendleton: They're like, yeah, the orchestra was playing while he's managing it.[29:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, it was just you were really feeling it. Like, you're really in Armand's mind. But again, for Shane to get him fired, right? To just really go that far is why I don't like it.[29:39] Portia Pendleton: Like, you're ruining people's livelihoods.[29:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Their livelihoods. Like, okay, they made a mistake. Like, let it go. My God. He can't. But I mean, to just keep really and he doesn't care that someone's going to get fired. He doesn't care that Rachel's like a shell of a human. Maybe Rachel hadn't seen it to that degree.[29:58] Portia Pendleton: I would have to assume.[30:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: We got to give her the benefit of that, right? Oh, my god. And then when Armand is pooping in.[30:05] Portia Pendleton: The luggage, I laughed out loud watching that scene.[30:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: I was like, oh, my god.[30:11] Portia Pendleton: My husband hadn't seen it at all. And I was like, come look at this. He's like, this is weird. And I was like, It's Armand.[30:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: He's pooping in this because he just can't take it anymore.[30:21] Portia Pendleton: He didn't like wipe. He just pulled his pants up.[30:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. That's gross. Yeah. I mean, I think he was high, so I don't think he really knew he was doing what's he going to wipe with the shirt. He should have wiped with the shirt. Oh, God.[30:38] Portia Pendleton: That would have been like the nail in the coffin just smearing your feces all over.[30:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And what a primitive form of payback. Which, again, all of these characters and their personality traits are so primitive. And they're all having temper tantrums in their own way, even Armand. But I have so much sympathy for Armand because I feel like they just pushed him to a break, literally. You're going to get fired for this. It just makes me sick.[31:05] Portia Pendleton: Yeah.[31:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Armand is like I loved him.[31:08] Portia Pendleton: I loved when he was, like, lying about finding the bag, like over and over again. We'll have to keep looking. We haven't seen it.[31:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: So Armand does lie? Yeah, from the jump. He lies and can't admit wrongdoing. But then I'm like, maybe he's like, coached to do that. Maybe they're not supposed to admit fault because then they could get sued or like, who knows what. I don't know.[31:29] Portia Pendleton: I don't know.[31:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: I just feel like that stuff happens.[31:30] Portia Pendleton: All the time, though. A reservation gets missed and then it's like then if you're at a nice place, they should then take care of you. If you're paying thousands and thousands of dollars, it's like then they should have been like, yeah, you're right. We'll comp a night for the inconvenience. Or yes, of course we'll give you the difference. Give them a difference, that's all.[31:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I think I think they said they would. It just didn't clear right away. But that doesn't usually clear right away. Right.[31:54] Portia Pendleton: It's just like when you go to.[31:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: Any hotel and there's like a security charge, it takes a couple of days to come off. Right. Interestingly, though, like, the Mossbacher family does get comped. Yes.[32:02] Portia Pendleton: Well, I would hope so.[32:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's a little more than a room mix up.[32:07] Portia Pendleton: I guess.[32:12] Dr. Katrina Furey: It'S.[32:15] Portia Pendleton: So we have Nicole and what's, her husband Mark, and then Olivia and Quinn, and then Paula is the friend. So what do you think of initially Olivia and Paula?[32:27] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, my God. I just loved how woke they were, especially compared to their parents. It was just so humorous. I just felt like it was such a perfect depiction of the current generation versus the former generation and the tensions there. Totally accurate, given the political, social, cultural climate we're in. And I just loved love in terms of hated, but found humorous. Nicole's huge sympathy for the white man. Yeah, right. And I'm just like, oh, God.[33:00] Portia Pendleton: And and I love it so interesting because she's this powerful, like, business CEO and it seems like Mark is like, you know, almost like a stay at home dad. So it's interesting that within that nontypical.[33:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: Role, she is so sympathetic, but she has a white male son and I don't know, I just feel like she is just such a perfect character. Right. Like you would think as a female CEO and I'm assuming a male dominated industry, because we all are, you'd think she would be like this feminist icon.[33:31] Portia Pendleton: Right.[33:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: And again, I feel like this is maybe what Rachel's article was saying. Like, well, she's not really she kind of rolled the wave of me too to get to where she was.[33:41] Portia Pendleton: Maybe that was what it was about.[33:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maybe that's true, but she's not really a feminist icon, and I find that interesting. Like, is she insecure in her own power? I don't know. I don't know what to make of it. But I loved when they were at dinner and Olivia was like, mom, good news. I looked and I checked. All the white men are doing just fine. That was funny.[34:01] Portia Pendleton: I didn't really like Olivia and Paula. Just like, they were mean girls. I mean, besides their woke nature. And Olivia's felt really just hark toward her parents.[34:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And I think sorry to interrupt you, but I did think the mom and dad were pointing out something accurate. Like, you are so mad at us, but our privilege gives you life, and you're just, like, so unappreciative.[34:22] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, no. And I think, too, olivia and Paula's relationship felt, like, gross to me right off the get go. And just, like, they weren't really telling each other things. Olivia seemed really suspicious of Paula, and then Paula was really also suspicious of Olivia with knowing about Kai. Like, lying, hiding. No, I didn't go out. And Olivia literally she didn't say, though, I followed you. She kept a lot of that secret. I also was very upset with how they treated Quinn.[34:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes.[34:50] Portia Pendleton: Like, really, really mean.[34:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like, he was a dog here. Yeah, like, really mean.[34:53] Portia Pendleton: Sleep in the closet, constant putting him down. He felt a little like he could have been on the spectrum. I could have a little bit of some traits. In other ways, he seemed, like, pretty typical. But some things that Olivia had pointed.[35:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: Out, I was like.[35:08] Portia Pendleton: And then that made me even more mad that she was treating him like that.[35:12] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I could see that. Maybe what we used to call asperger's or something. I think with Olivia and Paula, at first, I thought they were good friends. Like, oh, they met in college. And I did think it was interesting that Paula was a woman of color on this trip and just really curious what's her take on all of this? I don't know how they got all those drugs there. Did they buy them there? Did they smuggle them somehow?[35:40] Portia Pendleton: Some were not prescribed. Like, a lot of them were prescription.[35:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: Based, but not like the ketamine was the pipe. I loved, though, when someone pulled out, like, how they just kept being like, oh, I forgot. I have this drug. Oh, wait, I have this drug. Oh, my God, I forgot to have my pipe.[35:55] Portia Pendleton: And you can't fly commercially with that. And they did.[35:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maybe they didn't, though.[35:58] Portia Pendleton: That's a good point. They got, like, on a commercial flight leaving. So, I mean, I'm making an assumption that maybe they did. Maybe they took a PJ down, but we're flying commercial on the way back.[36:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: But try and save some money.[36:10] Portia Pendleton: I think Paula, initially you like her because she is kind of calling people out but then I think she really kind of chooses her privilege with Kai. She does not call him when they're going back to the room, and that's, like, a big question of why. I was listening to the HBO podcast covering white Lotus, and they talked about that a lot. Like, she had her phone with her.[36:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: And she had Kai's number, and she.[36:34] Portia Pendleton: Did not contact him. She just looked scared. And then she put her the necklace that he gave her, she threw into the water, and it was just like, what are you doing?[36:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. Oh, I didn't make that connection about, like, she could have called him to warn him or say, like, get out.[36:48] Portia Pendleton: That was all her idea.[36:50] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And he really didn't want to do it, but then pushed it. And again, I think it's because, again, I feel like Olivia and Paula is another transactional relationship. I feel like Olivia uses Paula to be like, see, look, I'm woke. I have friends of color, blah, blah, blah, but not really. Right? And then we learned that I think maybe Paula's with Olivia to go on the trip. Maybe she probably went for free. I don't really know what else they're attracted to each other with in terms of their friendship, because then we learned that Olivia stole Paula's boyfriend. Right. So it's like, why do you see friends with her? Right? Like, why? And then I think that's why Paula didn't tell her about Kai, because she was worried it happened again, rightfully so. And we see that it kind of does start to happen again. And then I think Paula gets so ****** that she concocts this whole plan.[37:41] Portia Pendleton: Which, again, is not okay. I mean, not okay. Like, it's huge risk.[37:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: And Kai even says he's like, the mothbacher family didn't take our land like white people did, but they didn't. So this is just, like, stealing and stuff. But then she does kind of get in his head. And is that manipulative or, like, a vulnerable person?[38:00] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, it is manipulative, because Paula is then leaving, right? And he stayed. She's like, no, I'm going back.[38:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: I have college to get to. I have a life to get to. This is just like, a little fling. But then, yeah, she's using Kai to get back at this family who, again, has taken her on this trip. They're very problematic in their own ways. Like, not to give them a pass, but it hurts everyone. I do think we see remorse. Like, she seems genuinely remorseful and sad.[38:26] Portia Pendleton: But then I don't know if this I'm sure everything is intentional, always, because they're good writers, but on the last boat trip that they all take, paula is, like, sea sick, and she's just, like, vomiting. And Olivia's just looking at her because she knows what happened. She knows that she did that, and she's just like, oh, yeah, maybe she should have a soda. They are not at that point, interacting really at all. Olivia is realigning with her family, which again in the show seems good, right?[38:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: That she's finally hugging her mom and reconnecting and things like that. She's maybe seeing her parents as some good and some bad. Not all good or all bad. I did think it was hilarious when Nicole was like coaching Olivia on how to hold her friend's hair back while she's vomiting. As if Olivia doesn't know how to be there for a friend. She's like, pull that piece up, pull that piece up. Paula, I'm going to get you a ginger rail, honey. And I loved how every time Paula needs Tylenol because she's allergic to ibuprofen, paula has this allergy. Paula is just paula's, like she needs.[39:31] Portia Pendleton: Her out of van.[39:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. She's just so high maintenance, this Paula friend. It's just so ridiculous in an over the top way.[39:37] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I mean, they're such a funny family. And we see Quinn stay in Hawai.[39:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: I was like really happy for him. I don't know. How did you feel about that? We ran back.[39:45] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, like the show wise, I feel like it's great for him. It makes me think of this interesting little fun fact. So Hawai actually does have a problem with young people, like young runaway land going there and then becoming homeless. Do you know what woofing is?[40:02] Dr. Katrina Furey: No.[40:03] Portia Pendleton: It's like work on farm. I think there's another word in there, but a lot of college kids and people do it. So you get free room and board, typically food as well. And you can work at a farm, like for the summer, for like a.[40:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Marijuana farm or any farm.[40:16] Portia Pendleton: Any farm.[40:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Okay. I said marijuana because I've heard of something like this in Hawai, specifically on a marijuana farm. So I didn't know if it was specific to that or like any farm.[40:24] Portia Pendleton: So the person that I know went to Maui through a wolfing program was not marijuana farm, it's just like a regular farm. But they asked this person, made sure that they were returning to college. They had all these stipulations because so many people go down there to wolf and then don't leave and then become like homeless. And then there's limited resources. There's limited resources. I thought that was just interesting.[40:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: That is interesting. I think they go and fetch him. This isn't a home alone situation. I think they have the means and they will go find life there.[40:55] Portia Pendleton: I know. You go row that boat or canoe.[40:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: I loved Quinn in the technology, right, where they're like he's like freaking out because they lost all the technology. And then finally he's like, wow, the ocean is really beautiful.[41:08] Portia Pendleton: He's out there. Yes, he's sleeping. And then that group of men who are doing the paddle, like the rowing around the island really take to him and are really kind, which he seems to not be getting from his family.[41:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, you can see why he felt wanted and needed and included and that seemed really important to him. But I guess he's only 16, so I can see why his parents wouldn't want him to stay.[41:33] Portia Pendleton: It makes a lot of sense. And then Mark so we see Mark be, I think, just like inappropriate a lot.[41:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Again, talk about boundaries or lactose too.[41:43] Portia Pendleton: Much with Quinn, with everyone talking about.[41:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: His swollen testicles, you could just leave it at like, I got a medical.[41:48] Portia Pendleton: Issue, finds out about his father, who's.[41:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: A really big reaction to it.[41:52] Portia Pendleton: He's questioning his life. He seems like in a little bit of a midlife crisis based on all those things he finds out about his dad. And then he also finds out that he does not have cancer. He's just like, cancer scare.[42:02] Dr. Katrina Furey: There's a lot going on. And then he's like I can see, though, how learning that about his dad makes him feel like, did I really know you? And then he wants his son to really know him, albeit in an inappropriate way. And I felt like that conversation between him and Nicole was really well written and that she was like, you didn't think about how this would affect me now. I was originally hurt by your actions and now you're hurting me again because you're telling her children I didn't want them to know. And now I'm going to have to explain why I stayed. Why did I stay for these $75,000 bracelets? Yeah, it was really interesting. I loved when Mark was just getting drunker and drunker and drunker and seeing all the guests and just being ridiculous and then asking Armand what's that like to have sex with a man. And Armand's like, you want to find out? Yeah.[42:49] Portia Pendleton: And he was like he went too far. I just also couldn't I couldn't take him, like, beating on his chest.[42:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: But it was perfect, right? It was just like so just the white man, he's got to beat his chest and feel powerful when his wife is the one carnal with the power in the relationship. But then he gets the power by.[43:09] Portia Pendleton: Tackling Kai and saving them all.[43:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know. And then finally like, oh, now we're happy again.[43:13] Portia Pendleton: It's just trauma bonds people.[43:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Trauma bonding. Yeah. So what do you think kept Nicole and Mark together? What do you think attracted them and kept them together? Sort of how we've talked about, like, Tanya and Greg, shane and Rachel. What do you think it was with them?[43:30] Portia Pendleton: I feel like I want to say that they probably started out pretty even and I'm, again, making this all maybe.[43:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: They met in college. Yeah.[43:37] Portia Pendleton: The same kind of power dynamic, I feel like. And this is very stereotypical that he cheated as Nicole probably got more and more and more successful. Successful and maybe, like distant, like working, like gone all the time. Not in my opinion, not a reason to cheat. But I think that's maybe what kind of was the worst part of their relationship. And maybe they chose to stay because of their kids, maybe because it was convenient. Maybe they just chose to kind of have a different kind of partnership moving forward. And then now it seems like after, again, this traumatic event with the stolen goods, they feel more in touch with.[44:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Each other, like, more connected and more maybe even well, I guess tackling someone is such a masculine, heroic thing to do. And she was so mad at him, and then he came after her, so he didn't just leave her alone in her sorrows. And then he sort of did, quote, unquote, save her. Right.[44:35] Portia Pendleton: I don't think Kai was going to hurt her. I think he was just like, please.[44:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Stay there so I can get out.[44:40] Portia Pendleton: Of here situation that then got worse. It's not even like he got caught stealing. It's like then there was like, I'm sure it's all word going to get thrown in there.[44:48] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I know. He probably went to jail for a long time. He lost his job, went to jail, like this whole thing backfired. You know who didn't get in trouble? Paula. Yeah, probably. Maybe, though. I don't know. And Olivia just kind of like, using it to really get under Paula's skin. Like, well, hopefully there's no text messages. Right?[45:05] Portia Pendleton: But can you guys just stop being friends? Maybe that would be it's a toxic relationship choice.[45:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: I mean, were any of the relationships we saw healthy? No. Silence. I know.[45:19] Portia Pendleton: I really don't I don't think so.[45:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think the last thing I wanted to end on is Belinda, who I loved. But what do you think it is about Belinda where she gets used over and over?[45:33] Portia Pendleton: I think it's got to be like a mix of environmental so her role, right. Like working even specifically in a spa where you're doing different kind of healing things.[45:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: And specifically a spa at the White Lotus, like a very bougie, high end place with a specific type of clientele, maybe.[45:51] Portia Pendleton: So then there's the environment piece. And I think also, maybe she's really just on the simple side, like a really good listener. And a lot of people aren't used to that or a lot of people are. Like, she seems really awesome.[46:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: She seems very maternal, too.[46:07] Portia Pendleton: Real. And a lot of yeah. So maybe that's unexpected from for some, especially Tanya. Like, Belinda, even though I think was younger, was still more maternal.[46:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maternal.[46:19] Portia Pendleton: Same with Rachel. Rachel kind of went to her. Then Belinda, again, was being really appropriate. Gave her a tissue, asked her if.[46:25] Dr. Katrina Furey: She was all right, but then gave her cell phone number. So it's always like with Belinda, yes, there's some institutional boundaries right, that are loose because you're catering to this clientele. But then why should give her your cell phone number? Is it because you're worried about her? I think she could really do some work in therapy. As to be holding on to, like, yes, you're worried about her because you're a compassionate human and you're not responsible for her.[46:53] Portia Pendleton: Maybe there's something in her life with feeling overly responsible, and that's not a diagnosis by any means.[46:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: But that happens a lot with it does.[47:01] Portia Pendleton: Patients who are so kind and so giving, they often have the worst boundaries.[47:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes.[47:07] Portia Pendleton: And they get used and they don't take care of themselves.[47:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: They don't prioritize themselves in big ways and then small ways. So I feel like Belinda could really use some good quality therapy, and I.[47:20] Portia Pendleton: Think she could be in an amazing place.[47:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right.[47:24] Portia Pendleton: I think the others could get therapy and make changes. But Belinda seems like right on the.[47:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: Cusp where she just I feel like she has the most potential to me absolutely. Than the others.[47:32] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. We also didn't I'll just briefly mention we saw the substance use. So Olivia and Paula kind of playing around with that. And then we obviously see Armand. And then I would also take a gander that Tanya seems like she's probably on a Benzo, drinking out kind of out of it.[47:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, really out of it. Kind of dazed and detached on the cusp of slurring words, but not quite there. Yeah. No. She strikes me as someone who's been on, like, Bendy's a long time and now in her time of grief is freaking out, which happens. Like we've said before, we all regress when you're under stress or grieving or things like that. And I thought the show just did such a good job displaying such interesting interpersonal dynamics and such toxic and unhealthy relationships. Also, at this point in time in our culture, it was the perfect time for it to come out. I felt like it touched on really big cultural themes, political themes, societal themes in such a smart way where I would like to rewatch it in like, 20 years and just see what do I think then.[48:44] Portia Pendleton: I'm super excited for White Lotus season two.[48:47] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. What do you think happens? Well, I know that Tanya stayed and.[48:52] Portia Pendleton: I know that it's all new characters. I did hear that season one has just, like, the theme of money and privilege. And obviously there's privilege in season two, but season two is more like sex.[49:02] Dr. Katrina Furey: So we'll have to see.[49:05] Portia Pendleton: Stay tuned. It will be coming up this next month or this current in a couple of weeks.[49:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: So after this, we're going to release Legally Blonde, another fun, light hearted episode paying homage to Jennifer Coolidge. Is it homage or Maj? I don't know. I'm not that fancy. And then after that, we'll do White Lotus season two.[49:24] Portia Pendleton: Awesome.[49:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: So thank you for listening. Please rate review and subscribe and you can find us at Analyze Scripts on Instagram and Analyze Scripts podcast on TikTok. Thanks.[49:35] Portia Pendleton: Bye.[49:35] Dr. Katrina Furey: See you next Monday. Bye. This podcast and its contents are a copyright of Analyzed Scripts. All rights reserved. Any redistribution or reproduction of part or all of the contents in any form is prohibited. Unless you want to share it with your friends and rate review and subscribe, that's fine. All stories and characters discussed are fictional in nature. No identification with actual persons, living or deceased places, buildings or products is intended or should be inferred. This podcast is for entertainment purposes only. The podcast and its contents do not constitute professional mental health or medical advice. Listeners might consider consulting a mental health provider if they need assistance with any mental health problems or concerns. As always, please call 911 or go directly to your nearest emergency room for any psychiatric emergencies. Thanks for listening and see you next time. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Benzo and H sit with Yung LJ and have a chat about performing as a trio under BWF (BreadWinnersFamily) at big venues, the current state of RnB and Afrobeats, female artists and a whole lot more, featuring a cameo from fellow artist N11kos. Tap in!Guest:@yungljofficial@n11kos@breadwinnersfamilyLet us know what you thought!Support the Show.Follow us on Instagram to stay up to date!@nothingbutmusicpod@husain.m8@blogbybenzo

A benzo peer support training class can be quite educational — especially for the instructor. In early November, I had the pleasure of teaching a sold-out course to individuals with a wide mix of backgrounds. It was quite illuminating. In today's episode, I share some insights from teaching peer support training. I also discuss my response to some constructive criticism, look at our focus here at Easing Anxiety, and wish everyone a very happy holiday season. Video ID: BFP129 CHAPTERS00:00 INTRODUCTION00:16 Thanksgiving & Family03:11 Feedback Form Fixed04:18 Constructive Criticism06:33 Our Direction / Indecision07:22 Anxiety Management & BIND10:43 Our Focus on Mental Health13:52 Connecting with You15:55 Not Medical Advice16:33 How Ya Doin'?19:48 FEATURE 21:28 About the Course24:52 Benzos & Recovery (SUD)30:06 Learning from Recovery (SUD)31:20 Interaction & Discussion33:08 Teaching BIND36:10 Boundaries37:16 Patient Boundaries39:43 Caregiver Boundaries41:31 Categories of Symptoms48:37 Benzos and Alcohol52:21 Active Benzo Community54:25 You Got This!56:02 CLOSING  REFERENCESFeedback—    What Do You Want to See at Easing Anxiety? — https://easinganxiety.com/feedbackResources—    Benzo Peer Training — https://benzopeertraining.org —    BIND Symptoms (14 Categoreies) — https://easinganxiety.com/symptoms  SITE LINKSVISIT US ONLINE — Website: https://www.easinganxiety.com — YouTube: https://youtube.com/@easinganx — Twitter: https://twitter.com/@easinganx — Facebook: https://facebook.com/easinganxfb — Instagram: https://instagram.com/easinganx SUBSCRIBE / SUPPORT US — Join Our Mailing List: https://easinganxiety.com/subscribe — Make a Donation: https://easinganxiety.com/donate  PODCAST SUMMARYThis podcast is dedicated to those who struggle with side effects, dependence, and withdrawal from benzos, a group of drugs from the benzodiazepine and nonbenzodiazepine classes, better known as anti-anxiety drugs, sleeping pills, sedatives, and minor tranquilizers. Their common brand names include Ambien, Ativan, Klonopin, Lunesta, Valium, and Xanax. DISCLAIMERAll content provided on this YouTube channel is for general informational purposes only and should never be considered medical or health advice. The author of the content provided on this channel is not engaged in rendering medical, health, psychological, or any other kind of personal or professional services. Health-related information provided is not a substitute for medical advice and should not be used to diagnose or treat health problems or to prescribe any medical devices or other remedies. Never disregard medical advice or delay in seeking it.Please visit our website for our complete disclaimer at https://www.easinganxiety.com/disclaimer.  MUSIC CREDITS— All music provided / licensed through Storyblocks (https://www.storyblocks.com)  Benzo Free Theme— Title: "Walk in the Park" — Artist: Neil Cross PRODUCTION CREDITSEasing Anxiety is produced by…Denim Mountain Press https://www.denimmountainpress.com

It's 3:00am. Sleep is elusive. Collective thoughts converge on the manic mind. So, why not record a podcast? Join D as he ponders benzos and BIND, fatigue and fear, motivation, meditation, gratitude, and grace. All from the comfort of his own bed. Video ID: BFP127 CHAPTERS0:00:00 It's 3:14 am0:02:21 Struggling Lately0:05:30 Podcast Delays 0:07:08 Benzo Peer Training0:07:51 Overwhelm & Fatigue0:09:02 New Content Coming… 0:10:35 Coping with Insomnia0:13:38 Missed Y'all 0:14:34 Ruminations in a Dark Room0:16:23 Finding Life Balance0:19:10 Motivation to Change 0:24:00 Discipline As We Heal0:26:00 Moving Forward0:28:38 It Does Get Better0:29:52 Advice for the Younger You?0:32:54 Being OK with Yourself 0:38:35 Trying to Belong0:40:14 A Calming Voice0:42:26 BIND Frustration / Emotion0:47:40 Talking in the Bathroom0:48:56 Podcasts & Authenticity0:51:24 Meditation & Perfectionism 0:53:53 Five Minute Meditation0:54:38 Yin Yoga & BIND0:56:19 Changing for the Better0:58:56 Benefits of Gratitude1:04:27 Three Gratitudes1:06:08 Being Grateful for Others1:13:27 CLOSING SITE LINKSVISIT US ONLINE — Website: https://www.easinganxiety.com — YouTube: https://youtube.com/@easinganx — Twitter: https://twitter.com/@easinganx — Facebook: https://facebook.com/easinganxfb — Instagram: https://instagram.com/easinganx SUBSCRIBE / SUPPORT US — Join Our Mailing List: https://easinganxiety.com/subscribe — Make a Donation: https://easinganxiety.com/donate  PODCAST SUMMARYThis podcast is dedicated to those who struggle with side effects, dependence, and withdrawal from benzos, a group of drugs from the benzodiazepine and nonbenzodiazepine classes, better known as anti-anxiety drugs, sleeping pills, sedatives, and minor tranquilizers. Their common brand names include Ambien, Ativan, Klonopin, Lunesta, Valium, and Xanax. DISCLAIMERAll content provided on this YouTube channel is for general informational purposes only and should never be considered medical or health advice. The author of the content provided on this channel is not engaged in rendering medical, health, psychological, or any other kind of personal or professional services. Health-related information provided is not a substitute for medical advice and should not be used to diagnose or treat health problems or to prescribe any medical devices or other remedies. Never disregard medical advice or delay in seeking it.Please visit our website for our complete disclaimer at https://www.easinganxiety.com/disclaimer.  MUSIC CREDITS— All music provided / licensed through Storyblocks (https://www.storyblocks.com)  Benzo Free Theme— Title: "Walk in the Park" — Artist: Neil Cross PRODUCTION CREDITSEasing Anxiety is produced by…Denim Mountain Press https://www.denimmountainpress.com

In this week's episode, I'm joined by Ty Benzo designer of the Mater Piece clothing brand. , an entrepreneur who has not only carved his own path to success but has also cultivated a strong brotherhood with his fraternity Delta Omega Epsilon around him to help support his journey. Ty is about to celebrate his five-year anniversary, and this event is not just a celebration of his business milestones, but a heartfelt tribute to those who have stood by him through thick and thin.Support the showPodcast available on ALL listening platformsMind Over Matter linktr.ee/mindovermatterbabyyyWatch Manhattan Neighborhood Network EVERY Saturday @ 12pmFollow us on Instagram@mindovermatterbabyyyDEJA @deja.waja

In dental hygiene school, you have to take pharmacology. Drugs are an important component of the medical history and are used to support patients with a variety of conditions. It is important for the dental hygiene student to understand drug pharmacological effects, adverse reactions, side effects, and dental considerations. As providers, we should have an understanding of drug uses and precautions. In this episode, I speak with Rachel Leo Flagg, a professor who has been teaching pharmacology for over a decade to dental hygiene students about barbiturates and benzodiazepines similarities and differences. Rachel helps create an understanding of how to remember important information and the role of the dental hygienist when working with patients who are prescribed these drugs. Additional resources:  Study Sheets: https://thehappyflosserrdh.etsy.com/  Other Podcasts: blog.feedspot.com/dental_hygiene_podcasts/   Take a look at a recent product I have tried and recommend. bit.ly/thehappyflosser promo code: HAPPYFLOSSER   Send Messages to:  https://anchor.fm/billie43/message --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/billie43/message

In today's episode of "Not Your Average Fangirl" Addi and Grace talk all about their favorite (and least favorite) ships from The Vampire Diaries. Tune in as they discuss Delena, Stelena, Benzo, Klaroline, and so many more because their tears have not been used up by "Another Love". Plus find out if they would've celebrated OR objected at Steroline's famous June wedding. So, pause whatever your binge watching and take a minute to hangout with Addi and Grace.

Émission enregistrée à Pointe-Noire, au Congo, dans le cadre de la 1ère édition du festival Ponton Miziki qui a eu lieu du 30 septembre au 1er octobre 2023. Sur notre plateau, enregistré au restaurant La Pyramide, sur la Côte sauvage, les artistes Teddy Benzo, Bioman Badman, Laila and the Groove et Mixton. Pour visionner les clips, cliquez sur les titres des chansons :Teddy Benzo - Ennemi publicLaïla and the Groove - EyindaMixton - CourageuxBioman Badman - BoulotTeddy Benzo - BantuLaïla and the Groove feat Makhalba Malecheck - MBMMixton - O tiki nga na naniTeddy Benzo feat Poison Mobutu - Dance ya ba bossRetrouvez notre playlist sur Deezer.

Matt Finch interviews Hunter ("Mamoon"), founder of 14 Step, about his severe addiction to using Xanax Gummies and other benzos and how he recovered. Mamoon became addicted soon after beginning Xanax gummies and says they helped him to breathe when normally it was hard to breathe due to so much anxiety. After multiple run-ins with the police and court system, Mamoon's parents sent him to Wilderness Therapy which wasn't the end of his Benzo use but the beginning of the end. Here are the main topics discussed in this episode: Hunter (Mamoon) grew up in Raleigh, North Carolina In high school his town had huge amounts of Xanax gummies and other benzos Mamoon starts partnering with friends to go on Dark Web and buy Xanax Gummies with Bitcoin Mamoon becomes a daily Xanax user and his tolerance and dependence skyrockets Getting busted with a backpack full of Xanax Gummies and Pot Brownies Put on probabation and not able to get in trouble for 12 months to avoid felony Pulled over by police with a backpack full of Xanax Gummies right before college started Gets sent to Wilderness Therapy in Southern Utah in the Winter as an alternative to incarceration After Wilderness Therapy returns to using Benzos in a Relapse Eventually recovers from and then transcends addiction completely Starts 14 Step and creates 14Step.com Show Notes Page>>

In this episode, we welcome Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring, a board-certified psychiatrist and former FDA medical officer who has dedicated his career to helping patients safely discontinue psychiatric medications. In this information-packed deep-dive, Dr. Josef and I discuss adverse reactions during and following psychiatric medication use, especially regarding benzodiazepines and antidepressants. Dr. Josef believes that taking a more holistic approach to understanding the effects of psychiatric medication enables better therapeutic use of the drugs. He argues against the notion of merely correcting a chemical imbalance and advocates for a more fulfilling approach to psychiatry. Additionally, he suggests that family medicine doctors should refrain from prescribing these medications unless they have sufficient time to thoroughly assess the medication's impact on various aspects of a person's life. Initially, Dr. Josef pursued a career in psychiatry with the hope of combining personal development and medicine. However, upon studying and practicing psychiatry, he discovered that the field's approach to helping individuals has little to do with personal development. Instead, in Dr. Josef's view, the field often focuses on prescribing medications, likening it to a production line that simply dispenses medications, masquerading as scientific treatment for neurological deficits. He expresses disappointment in the field's lack of emphasis on personal development within psychiatry.Dr. Josef Witt-During is a board certified psychiatrist and former FDA medical officer. He specializes in adverse drug reactions of psychiatric medications and is the co-founder of Witt-During Psychiatry, along with his wife, Dr. Marissa Witt-Doerring. Together, they provide comprehensive drug taper programs, conservative medication management, and supportive coaching for those withdrawing from psychiatric drugs.For more resources related to Dr. Josef's work, please take a listen to his podcast, Life on Less Meds, his Twitter, or you can find him and others where I did, @PSSDNetwork on Twitter. This conversation builds on a previous episode where we explored mental health in the age of misinformation with Dr. Roger McFillin, which can be found here.Finally, in this episode, I mentioned a couple of great books, "Brain Energy: A Revolutionary Breakthrough in Understanding Mental Health--and Improving Treatment for Anxiety, Depression, OCD, PTSD, and More” by Chris Palmer which can be found on amazon or in my bookshop! Episode Topics: Post SSRI sexual dysfunction. The problem with psychiatry. Psychiatric medication and untangling. Medication and time-limited conditions. Treatment based on informed consent. Chemical imbalances and mental health. Impact of medication on relationships. Sexual dysfunction and emotional blunting. Medications and metabolic disruption. Withdrawal symptoms and support. Lifestyle interventions for withdrawal. Gluten allergy and psychosis. Quitting caffeine and its importance. Increased energy levels and relaxation. Tapering off stimulants and sedatives. Benzos prescribed for daily use. Benzodiazepine withdrawal and neurotoxicity. Benzo and antidepressant withdrawal. Oral contraceptive pill side effects. Birth control's impact on mental health. Increase in asexual and trans identities. Long-term effects of cross-sex hormones. Sexual problems in transgender individuals. Drug research and side effects. Increased suicidal ideation. Using medication for psychosis. Adverse drug reactions If you enjoyed this conversation, please rate & review it on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Share this episode with a friend, or on social media. 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Critically acclaimed memoirist, Melissa Bond, spoke to me about her dark night of the soul, crowd-funding her lauded memoir, and the paperback release of BLOOD ORANGE NIGHT: A Memoir of Insomnia, Motherhood, and Benzos. Melissa Bond is a narrative journalist, editor, award-winning poet, and speaker/performer whose breakout debut memoir, Blood Orange Night, is a Barnes & Noble non-fiction book of the month, and was selected by both The New York Times as one of the Best Audiobooks of 2022. Publishers Weekly (in a Starred Review) said of the book, “In this raw and captivating debut, journalist Bond chronicles her volatile descent into a benzodiazepine addiction …. Bond's narrative casts a burning light onto the hazards of overprescribing and the threat it poses to vulnerable people. This cautionary tale stuns.” Melissa Bond blogged and became a regular contributor for Mad in America in the years of her dependence on benzodiazepines. She is a respected speaker and writer on the perils of over-prescribing benzodiazepines and has been featured on podcasts including The New York Times Book Review, and others. [Discover The Writer Files Extra: Get 'The Writer Files' Podcast Delivered Straight to Your Inbox at writerfiles.fm] [If you're a fan of The Writer Files, please click FOLLOW to automatically see new interviews. And drop us a rating or a review wherever you listen] In this file Melissa Bond and I discussed:  Her guerilla street poet/poverty phase and hosting National Poetry Slams Why she never imagined writing a memoir  How she Kickstarted her hit book in just three days The transformative process of finding gems in the rubble of difficult times Her process, meditation practice, and “sitting beyond oneself” How to quiet the gnome of self-doubt And a lot more! Show Notes: melissaabond.com Blood Orange Night: A Memoir of Insomnia, Motherhood, and Benzos By Melissa Bond (Amazon)  Melissa Bond on Instagram Kelton Reid on Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Analyze Scripts, where a psychiatrist and a therapist analyze what Hollywood gets right and wrong about mental health. Today, "Jennifer Coolidge July" continues with "White Lotus" Season 1. Who doesn't love this show?! In this episode, we dig into the toxic interpersonal dynamics depicted in all of the relationships amongst the main characters. We spend a lot of time analyzing Tanya's manipulation of Belinda and discuss which behaviors are consistent with borderline personality disorder (BPD). We also explore what keeps Rachel and Mark connected to Shane and Nicole, respectively, and poke fun at Olivia's "wokeness." We hope you enjoy! PS RIP Armond. [00:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: Hi, I'm Dr. Katrina Fury, a psychiatrist. [00:12] Portia Pendleton: And I'm Portia Pendleton, a licensed clinical social worker. [00:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: And this is Analyze Scripts, a podcast where two shrinks analyze the depiction of mental health in movies and TV shows. [00:23] Portia Pendleton: Our hope is that you learn some legit info about mental health while feeling like you're chatting with your girlfriend. [00:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: There is so much misinformation out there, and it drives us nuts. [00:32] Portia Pendleton: And if someday we pay off our student loans or land a sponsorship, like. [00:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: With a lay flat airline or a major beauty brand, even better. [00:39] Portia Pendleton: So sit back, relax, grab some popcorn. [00:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And your DSM Five, and enjoy. Hi, welcome back. We are so excited you're joining us today to talk about the hit HBO show White Lotus Season One, as part of our Jennifer Coolidge July Celebration. We hope everyone had a really wonderful July 4 weekend, and we hope you ate all the hot dogs you could get your hands on. Yeah, I did. Porsche. I want to start a little differently than usual because something just really interesting happened to me during my July 4 celebration. Okay. I went with my family to Legoland, which is a really wonderful place for little kids. And on July 4, they had this whole celebration. They had really cool fireworks with 3D glasses, where when the fireworks exploded, they looked like Legos. I thought that was really cool, and I was really trying to figure out the science because not every light was connected to a Lego. So it had something to do with the frequency and the electrons, and I just get really nerdy about these things. But then they also had a fire dancer, right? Like, would you expect that at a child theme park? No. And so we Legoland. [01:58] Portia Pendleton: Maybe like Disney World. [01:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, they had a fire dancer. They were really pulling out all the stops. They also had the Brick Street Boys, because everything is like brick themed with the Lego brick, everything's brick tastic. And, you know, I love the Max Tree Boys, so that was titillating. But this fire dancer, we stumbled across her as we were leaving, and obviously we had to stop and watch her and just imagine she is like five foot zero at the most. Like, on a good day. She's itty bitty, teeny tiny, wearing a full on white unitard, like full on bodysuit with red and white horizontal stripes, so she looks like a firecracker. And then she had this beautiful bleach blonde hair, but with these long, long bangs and these bright red lips. [02:49] Portia Pendleton: Oh, no. [02:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I kept worrying, like, is her hair going to catch on fire? Right? I was just like, I loved her look, her hair is wonderful. [02:56] Portia Pendleton: Or it is. [02:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: I don't know. I would think your hair would catch on fire. But then I think also, like, the fire they use has got to be not real fire because then she starts, like, eating it. So she's also maybe a fire eater. [03:08] Portia Pendleton: Okay. [03:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: So I just thought it was really fascinating because she's, like, in this awesome outfit, a little sensual for Legoland, the theme park and doing these moves that are not, like, seductive per se, but sensual with fire. It was just really interesting to see all these children watching this. And what I loved is the music she picked first, obviously. Miley Cyrus partying in the USA. Getting her fire going. Sometimes the flames would go out because it was a little windy and she had, like, all sorts of different fire sticks. And then do you know this song that's like the grand finale song. It was like, Partying USA. Yeah. She's, like, dancing around with her little fire sticks, and then she transitions to the fans. It's like a fire fan. And she lights each one slowly and kind of seductively to that song that's like, light them up, light them up, light them up. And it was just like, wonderful. I don't know, it was just really interesting. [04:08] Portia Pendleton: That's making me think of the yes. [04:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: The hula dancing in white Lotus. I know. And I was just like it didn't feel like cultural appropriation, I guess, in this case. Although in White Lotus it kind of does, right? So I don't know. It was just really interesting having a fire dancer at a child's theme park. Kind of very sensual, really. Like maybe pushing the line, but not quite. And then I just kept worrying her hair was going to catch on fire. My children would see this awful, traumatic thing. And then she ended by eating the fire. And then my son was like, does she **** fire? And I was like, great question, great question, great question. Right? And then I was like, does her esophagus get burned? What are the ins and outs of being a fire dancer? What are the hazards of the trade? [05:00] Portia Pendleton: There's got to be I mean, there's a risk of being burned, right? [05:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Is it like, just real fire or is it some sort of special fire for fire dancers that's safe to consume? [05:12] Portia Pendleton: I have no idea. [05:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: No idea. So if anyone knows, DM us and let us know. [05:16] Portia Pendleton: Fire. [05:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: Speaking of things that are hot, white Lotus, super hot show. [05:23] Portia Pendleton: Jennifer coolidge. [05:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: Super hot. Like, at all stages of life, she is the queen. So, yeah. Where do you want to start? [05:31] Portia Pendleton: I think we have to start with Tanya. I mean, all weekend, it's just so relevant. I kept wanting to do the on. [05:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: A hot dog real bad. Yeah. Which I think is from legally blood. Yes. But we'll cover that next time. Gosh. Jennifer coolidge. [05:52] Portia Pendleton: So we see her making her way to the White Lotus resort by herself, and then we learn that she has her mother's ashes in tow. Seems like it was a recent death from how she's acting appropriately during grief. It's coming in and out. Sometimes she's fine, other times she's really upset and her idea is to kind of leave some of the ashes in the water off the coast of Hawaii. [06:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Which sounds beautiful. And I feel like people do that. People do that. But we see her sort of disembark that little tiny boat that's coming to the white Lotus with all the employees just waving and smiling. I loved how this series ended with them doing that again, except now we know more of the backstory and that made me really sad to see they're all there fake smiles, and she's just kind of a mess from the jump. [06:46] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. We see her pretty quickly at the spa right down there. And she really wants an appointment. [06:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: They don't have any. She's kind of freaking out, kind of pushy. And then Belinda, the lovely spa manager, or maybe just employee, makes room for her. Right. So right away we see some boundary pushing and crossing with Tanya McQuad and Belinda, which we just see continue. [07:14] Portia Pendleton: So it kind of starts their relationship. Right. I mean, again, I'm using relationship with air quotes right now because relationships are really two ways. [07:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. But I think, as we see with Tanya, this is a one way relationship. And I think that's a theme we see carried through for a lot of these different characters. [07:32] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So Belinda provides a service to Tanya that Tanya believes is like, life changing. And she's healed now immediately. And she wants to spend as much time as possible with Belinda, who is doing her job and becomes pretty pushy and almost so manipulative. It doesn't get sooner right off the bat with the money right. And her opening a spot together that comes a little later, like midway through the season. But you can just see Tanya's needs very needy, trying to kind of do whatever she wants, crossing inappropriate employee guest boundaries. You can see Belinda feels uncomfortable but. [08:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Goes along with it. [08:15] Portia Pendleton: A really high end place where I'm like, I feel like this probably in some ways is a norm. Like, you go above and beyond for a guest. [08:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: There's probably a lot of entitlement, which I think we see maybe especially with Shane kind of with all of them, though, there's a huge sense of entitlement. And we see Belinda sort of bend over backwards to make room for Tanya right at the start. And then Tanya idealizes her right away. Belinda is the be all and end all. The greatest thing that ever happened to her. She wants to shout it from the rooftops. And how did you feel, Portia, watching that? Did you start to get icky feelings or nervous feelings? [08:55] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I mean, I was very uncomfortable with her immediately making room for her at the spa. [09:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: Me, too. [09:02] Portia Pendleton: Again, I mean, the show I'm like, okay, this is clearly intentional. And I think it was hard, just as a side note, to separate Tanya from Jennifer Coolidge, because I love Jennifer Coolidge so much. [09:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: I don't like that for real. [09:16] Portia Pendleton: Tanya, you do you but, yeah, Tanya definitely made me feel like icky. [09:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Do you think that's because we're in mental health and so we're picking up on the splitting and the idealization and we know the devaluation will come, do you think the average person without that point of view would necessarily pick that up right away? [09:35] Portia Pendleton: Not in the same way. They might be turned off by her. Just from, like, entitlement. [09:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. And, like, the pushiness right. [09:42] Portia Pendleton: Versus, like, maybe the why or, like, you know, it being idealization and then waiting, like you said, for their to come devaluation, which sucks. And and Belinda was very, like, devastated at the end. [09:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: So I think, you know, they talk. [09:56] Portia Pendleton: About which we'll get into more, but borderline personality disorder. Tanya feels a little borderline to me. [10:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right as I was watching it, I got really nervous for Belinda because I just already was getting that borderline personality disorder flavor from Tanya. And that quick idealization is like a telltale sign. Even if you don't meet full criteria for a Bpd, which is the acronym for borderline personality disorder, often that quick idealization, I think we learned pretty early in our training, like, when you have a new patient who's just like, oh, my gosh, no psychiatrist has ever helped me in the way you're helping me. You're the better, amazing. Can I pay you more? Can I write you a good review? Blah, blah, blah. You learn to think, oh, there's something up here. Right. [10:43] Portia Pendleton: And it's hard because sometimes I think people's traits are more what do I want to say? Like, hidden, where it's like you might always see the positive side. You might be always idealized by someone for years yes. And have no idea. And all of a sudden, there's like, a switch flip, as, again, happens throughout the six episodes that we see with Belinda and Tanya. But sometimes we have no idea, and other times it's so big, it's like fast friends and people can be fast friends, but sometimes fast friends is really. [11:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Just like some love bomb a little. Yeah, exactly. [11:19] Portia Pendleton: Personality disorder. [11:20] Dr. Katrina Furey: And you're so right. It really depends on what side of the split you're on. So, again, people with Bpd traits or borderline personality disorder, much like we see here with Tanya, really see things in a black or white way, and they feel things that way. That's sort of their thoughts. We've talked about that in prior episodes, so you're either all good or all bad. It's hard for them to sort of see you as a mix of both, and that reflects their inability to see themselves as a mix of both. So if you're on the good side of the split, like you said for years, you can be like that, and then something might happen, like a late fee or a perceived insensitivity to something they're saying. Or it could be something big, it could be something small. Then you're very quickly devalued and on the bad side of the split. And that sucks. That feels real bad. Sometimes you're on the bad side of the split right away and you know it. And that's why it's very helpful to treat patients with these traits as a team. So then all team members can kind of support each other and also see sort of the clinical pathology and a fuller view. But we see that right away with Tanya idealizing Belinda. And I was just waiting for her to meet a man and drop Belinda as quick as possible. And unfortunately, we see that happen. [12:36] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. And I think, too, I was curious. [12:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Of who? [12:40] Portia Pendleton: Jennifer Kuf. Tanya. Tanya. [12:43] Dr. Katrina Furey: Tanya. [12:43] Portia Pendleton: Tanya would also interact with, like, of the other guests. [12:47] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. [12:48] Portia Pendleton: And then, you know, that's a great point. Her her lover Greg kind of came out of nowhere. You know, he wasn't like, one of the main cast members. So I think that was just, like, interesting. [12:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: But her and Wise writing right. That it wasn't like someone she met on the ship or it wasn't anyone she'd even formed a minimal connection with. It was like, accidental by chance. Really quick, hot and heavy. That's how it goes. [13:10] Portia Pendleton: Very intense. So intense emotions are, again, pretty common with a lot of personality disorders, but specifically with Bpd. And also just thinking about what we learn from Tanya's past, she alludes to her mother having Bpd. Yes, there are some genetic markers of Bpd, but also it's just really hard. Again, with attachment. Yes, there's a lot of attachment trauma in patients who have borderline personality disorder. [13:35] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. And so right. So if Tanya, when they're on the little boat, she's supposed to spread the ashes and they're with Shane and Rachel. I love that so much. And she's, like, kind of given a eulogy of sorts and talking about her deceased mom, I was like, all of this tracks again, a plus. Writing like this track, this sort of upbringing would potentially lead to someone displaying behaviors and traits that Tanya is. So her mom, who was obsessed with men, and it sounds like, would often prioritize her romantic relationships over her relationship with Tanya. And then we see that play out when she meets Greg and she even says, like, you said that her mom has Bpd. And you do sort of learn how to behave as an adult from your early attachment figures and what's modeled for you. So why wouldn't she display some of these traits? I would imagine that her mom would have been a bigger personality disorder, and Tanya still has those traits, and we see them, but maybe I'm imagining her mom would have been even more big. [14:41] Portia Pendleton: I feel like, also maybe more cruel. Yeah. Tanya, I think it's almost like, has the lacking self awareness, and it's really, like, self centered. It's like only her needs are the most important. I also don't think that that's intentional. I think she's just, like, moving through. [14:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: Life, like, trying not malicious. Right? Yeah, I totally agree. It doesn't feel like logan. Roy. [15:01] Portia Pendleton: Right. [15:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I wonder if her mom did or if her mom was like the mom from succession. That's a great point, Portia. And again, what you just brought up I thought was really interesting. Like, which of the other guests did she interact with? Now that I'm thinking about it, I feel like it was the ones who were younger than her. It wasn't like the Moss Bach or family parents. [15:18] Portia Pendleton: Right. [15:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: It wasn't really Armand, except to get Belinda. Belinda. It was like Belinda was the only adult she interacted with to get her needs met. There was also a racial difference, which I thought was important and interesting, and. [15:32] Portia Pendleton: A socioeconomic difference huge. [15:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: And again, I feel like Tanya ends up connecting herself to people who use her while she's using them. So her relationships are very transactional. Right. And I just think that makes a lot of sense. Even if she's not maliciously using people unconsciously, she is, but then she's also picking people who are like belinda was kind of doing that with her, too, right. Like, she was like, oh, maybe I could get my own spot and finally living out that dream. Yeah, it was really interesting. [16:07] Portia Pendleton: And then Tanya interacts with Olivia and Paula, just, like, commenting on their appearance and their skin. [16:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [16:14] Portia Pendleton: So it's so porcelain. She's, like, trying to feel their faces, and they're like this ladies. [16:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. And they're, like, young and beautiful and yeah. Again, just interesting people to try to attach to. It makes me wonder what psychological age Tanya is. Yes. We often think of chronological age as being different from your psychological age. And sometimes I feel like I hear this in society and in the media of child stars, you kind of get stuck at the age you became famous, and I think that might be related to the trauma of fame. And I feel like we do see that. Right? Do you see that? That people seem sort of psychologically stuck at the age of trauma occurred or something like that? [16:56] Portia Pendleton: No, definitely. And I think, too, in Tanya's character, it feels way more, I don't know, intense where she's stuck, like, in childhood versus maybe some other patients I can think off the top of my head that I've interacted who have Bpd, where she just even, like her temper tantrums. [17:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [17:16] Portia Pendleton: It's like she's so good at playing being a child when she's seeking reassurance so frequently, she's, like, following Greg around, literally hiding. I was like, I mean, it's comical because of the show, but it's like she is acting like a child. [17:30] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. Like a five year old, maybe. Yeah, 100%. And even with Greg, like, when she was finally like, I'm going to peel. [17:36] Portia Pendleton: Back all the layers of the onion. [17:38] Dr. Katrina Furey: And really let him see it. And she did. She let it all out. And I felt like that was a great depiction of the sort of core fear of patients with Bpd, of abandonment and loss and attachment. This sort of I hate you, but don't leave me. Like, I'm going to leave you first because it would hurt too much if you left me, but don't leave me. [17:58] Portia Pendleton: Or I'm going to give you an excuse to leave. [18:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [18:00] Portia Pendleton: By acting. Right? I'm acting in this huge way. I'm pushing you away intentionally. So then I have a reason. Okay. I know why. [18:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Or sort of like a test. Right. And Greg stayed. And I think she interprets that as like true love. I think he just wanted to have sex. [18:16] Portia Pendleton: I think he just wanted to have sex. I'm not sure if he saw it going anywhere further than that night. But then I'm thinking and I have not watched season two, so I'm saying this kind of blind, but I also think that based on what he had done for a living, which is not being an activist for Black Lives Matter. [18:33] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I loved that. Hilarious. [18:36] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, it was so funny. [18:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: Belinda. He's with the BLM. And then Belinda's like, okay. [18:42] Portia Pendleton: Because in her face while he's telling her that, she's just like, oh, how'd. [18:48] Dr. Katrina Furey: She get into that? I love that whole dinner conversation. We're just like, how'd she get into activism? And he's like, what? Yeah. [18:53] Portia Pendleton: So he's in, like, wildlife, it seems, management, fisheries, something like that. In Colorado, in the west. Because then she's like, oh, well, when I'm in Aspen, let's meet up. And I think then for him, he's seeing, in my opinion, this opportunity to be with someone who seems a little damaged to him. He now then maybe can take advantage. [19:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: Of for her money. Right. In hearing that, he was like, this got money. There's something up here. I was really worried about Greg and all his coughing fits. Yeah. And I'm like, do you have COPD? Do you have a lung tumor? Why are you coughing? Do you have asthma? What is going on? [19:29] Portia Pendleton: I forgot about that. [19:30] Dr. Katrina Furey: I kept being really nervous he was going to drop down, like, while they were having sex or soon after or. [19:35] Portia Pendleton: Right after they were connecting. Right. And then another person leaving her in the ultimate way. [19:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. I was really worried about that happening. So I wonder if the writers were always, like, teasing us with that or if that might come later. I don't really know. But again, she quickly attaches herself to Greg, who doesn't feel like a secure, healthy attachment figure. And again, it's like, I can't really put my finger on why I'm just getting a vibe. He's not it. [20:04] Portia Pendleton: He doesn't seem safe for her. [20:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. But she is immediately attracted to him, like a magnet. And I think for me, watching this whole series that was like the thing that kept crossing my mind is like, why are these characters attracted to who they're attracted to when it's so clear that these are kind of like unhealthy relationship dynamics, but they don't leave. And I think we really see that with Shane and Rachel. [20:26] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So yeah, I mean, with Rachel and Shane Patton, I feel like I have a hot take with that. I don't like Rachel and I prefer Shane. [20:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: What? [20:40] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I know. [20:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, your team Shane? Yeah. I don't think anyone's team Shane. [20:46] Portia Pendleton: I know, and I don't know what that says about me, but that's okay. So I just think that Rachel needs to get her stuff together and it bothers me. And maybe this is something I can talk about in supervision or therapy, why it bothers me so much, but I'm just like, come on, girl. Shane is not hiding himself that well. [21:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's true. [21:07] Portia Pendleton: This sociopathic, malignant narcissist, he's a **** up, rich, spoiled brat boy who married her because she's beautiful and has a lot of money. And it's just like now all of a sudden she's like seeing it and I'm just like really? [21:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. I don't think it was hidden before, although I guess sometimes I have heard of some relationships and again, I don't think this is uncommon, where you think you're marrying one person and then it's like the mask falls off. So maybe that happened, but Shane doesn't seem smart right, for that to have been the case. [21:38] Portia Pendleton: And he seems like he has zero. [21:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like a frat boy, like he's wearing his, what, like Cornell hat or something, which I'm sure he got in by having a legacy generational tie. Yeah, I don't think he doesn't strike me as the kind of narcissist to be smart enough to hide that very well. It's really out there again, he's like living his authentic self. I guess. So maybe it sounds like maybe that's why you're annoyed with her. [22:04] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I don't know. And then you told me about his mom. [22:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: I love Molly Shannon so much and everything. And then when she showed up, right, like he'd called her over and over and over, being so annoyed. Get the pineapple sweet. [22:20] Portia Pendleton: Even though they got like this other. [22:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Beautiful sweet, and just like a child having a temper tantrum, going to mommy, then she shows up. Can you imagine if your mother in law showed up on your honeymoon? [22:32] Portia Pendleton: I can't think of how that would ever be okay. [22:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: You know what I mean? [22:37] Portia Pendleton: And he's just like, mom, her face is just like, this is not happening. [22:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right? [22:42] Portia Pendleton: Is this real? Is this a mirage from being in Hawai or in the sun? [22:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: All the pina coladas? Yeah. And then it's just like you get the sense that Shane and his mom Kitty are enmeshed and then you really see just how enmeshed they are. Yes. And she's like, well, I'm going to this other place with my best friend from all time, but I thought I'd stop here first. I hope that's okay. And you can see Rachel's just like, I have to say it's okay, but it's really not. [23:06] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, and her face is so obvious, too, which maybe she is, but again, you're not even trying to hide your disdain, which I get. Again, that's like super appropriate, but within their context. Again, that's why I'm like, come on, how did you not see this? [23:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know, but maybe it's like, now she's really seeing it. Maybe there was some shred of suppression or denial that was keeping her in the relationship with Shane. Again, with this series, I'm so curious about why do they stay connected to these people? And it's like, I think Shane was connected to her for her beauty. That's her power. And then she, I think, is connected to him because of his money and the privilege and the access. And she says that bopping around New York City was really fun, and now she's realizing there's like a price to pay for that privilege. It's like golden handcuffs and Kitty's part of the deal. And I also thought that the actresses portrayed that mother in law, daughter in law competition so well, more so from Kitty's perspective, you could tell that the fact that she was beautiful really bothered her. Right. That now she's not the number one woman in his life. [24:13] Portia Pendleton: I want to know if there's a dad. [24:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: Divorced, if he's alive, or if. [24:20] Portia Pendleton: She had always the money. [24:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: So she said she had family money. I remember she was telling Rachel that that's why, like, if she and her husband ever split up, she'd be okay because she did have family money to fall back on. Sort of like bragging, because she knows Rachel doesn't. But then it sounds like whoever the dad is had more money. Yeah, I don't know. Actually, that's really interesting that there was no mention of him at all, especially. [24:41] Portia Pendleton: With just like mother son dynamic. Then. Is that why they're so enmeshed? Would they have been less if there was like a third family member? He seems again, I don't think there's other kids. He seems like an only child, or. [24:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: At least they don't talk about him if there are. [24:55] Portia Pendleton: I mean, that too can just happen to a parent child. It's a different type of relationship than if you have two parents or siblings. [25:04] Dr. Katrina Furey: Or things like that. Yeah, that's actually a really interesting point. But they were so funny, though, when Kitty and Shane and Rachel are all at that dinner and Rachel is already having an identity cris, and now here's her mother in law, who's like I think she's like, oh, God, this is what I'm going to be, or what Shane wants me to be. And I don't know if that's who I want to be. And they're all like, why don't you want to be this? This is great. And they're doing like that money, money dance while the Hula people are hooling in the background. It was so sickening. And you could see on rachel's face. She's like, oh, my God, you guys are doing this in public. But that's who they are, right? And they're also not hiding it like any shred, right? Any shred. [25:42] Portia Pendleton: So that juxtaposition. Juxtaposition. After we talk to and meet Kai and knowing that the land was taken and that a lot of them work there and that his family is mad because he works there, because some people don't and protest so and so forth, we have that whole storyline kind of going off to the side. And then the patent family are just like, money, money. Watching the people who live there, that it's a part of their culture and meaningful, this performance that they're just like singing to. Money. [26:07] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right? Yeah. Again. Beautiful Juxtaposition. Beautiful writing. Definitely makes you feel icky. [26:16] Portia Pendleton: But yeah, I mean, Shane is not lovable, right? Like, he flirts with underage girls in front of Rachel, literally on their honeymoon. Like, that's gross. [26:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's gross. And such a power move. I can't remember now if she was already sort of expressing some hesitations or some unhappiness on the honeymoon, if he was sort of like showing her like, whatever, I'll be fine, kind of thing, or if he didn't know, if he really couldn't comprehend why she'd be hurt by that. [26:42] Portia Pendleton: Right. It was weird. And then when she's telling him, I mean, again, I don't know if anyone else felt this way or if I was the only one in the world watching, but I felt sorry for him. He had no idea from this point because he has zero self awareness. He had not a clue, which is, again, like, shocking because it's so obvious, right. [27:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: He wasn't picking up any and so. [27:05] Portia Pendleton: When she's telling him, basically, I don't like you, and I just I think. [27:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: I made a mistake. Yeah, like, he's sad because, like, again. [27:11] Portia Pendleton: Like, duh, you are going to be sad. And he's just like, Why? What do you mean? And it's funny. I mean, it's comedy not but his just whole and then he's being gaslit by Armand because he's right. Like, they did book that room. Armand is kind of messing with him. [27:27] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's true. [27:27] Portia Pendleton: He gets a free boat ride. It was Jennifer Tanya. It was Tanya paid for it. That's why he said it was free. It was not free. [27:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [27:34] Portia Pendleton: And then he knew that she was having this, like, a moment. [27:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: Well, he did that on purpose to get back. Exactly. Driving him nuts. [27:40] Portia Pendleton: Exactly. [27:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: But again, you're right. Like, Shane was correct. They didn't get the correct room. They did pay for it. They should at least get, like, the refund. But the fact that Shane is, like, so checking over and over, it's so annoying to me. And entitled and like, dude, just enjoy your honeymoon. [27:57] Portia Pendleton: But he can't. [27:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: He can't if he doesn't get what he feels like he deserves. I mean, it's like the perfect depiction of entitlement. And then that just dynamic between. Armand and Shane just keeps continuing. And they keep shane, I feel like, just keeps up in the ante. Up in the ante, up in the ant. Like, he just won't let it go. And he's just really getting under Armand's skin. And you imagine Armand's probably worked there for a long time. He's what, five or six years sober until he falls off the wagon because he finds the bag with all the. [28:28] Portia Pendleton: Drugs in it after Shane. [28:31] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's just Shane pushing and pushing and pushing it. [28:33] Portia Pendleton: But Shane is a trigger. [28:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And I would imagine he has dealt with Shane day in and day out, like for years. And he just can't take it anymore. The last Shane, the last straw. And it literally is the last Shane. Because unfortunately, Armod dies at the beginning. [28:49] Portia Pendleton: Do you see that coming? [28:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: I mean, obviously we knew someone died because it opens with I thought it. [28:55] Portia Pendleton: Was Rachel because of Shane in the airport was like, no, I'm alone. I was like, It's Rachel. [29:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I was worried she maybe committed suicide or something. I didn't see it coming until the final scene where he's like pooping in. [29:08] Portia Pendleton: Suitcase after the dinner service. [29:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right? [29:11] Portia Pendleton: He's like, he's so manic from drugs and doing cocaine all night. [29:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: And that's my favorite line of the whole show when he comes back. And he's like, that was the best ******* dinner seating of all time. [29:22] Portia Pendleton: They're like, yeah, the orchestra was playing while he's managing it. [29:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, it was just you were really feeling it. Like, you're really in Armand's mind. But again, for Shane to get him fired, right? To just really go that far is why I don't like it. [29:39] Portia Pendleton: Like, you're ruining people's livelihoods. [29:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Their livelihoods. Like, okay, they made a mistake. Like, let it go. My God. He can't. But I mean, to just keep really and he doesn't care that someone's going to get fired. He doesn't care that Rachel's like a shell of a human. Maybe Rachel hadn't seen it to that degree. [29:58] Portia Pendleton: I would have to assume. [30:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: We got to give her the benefit of that, right? Oh, my god. And then when Armand is pooping in. [30:05] Portia Pendleton: The luggage, I laughed out loud watching that scene. [30:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: I was like, oh, my god. [30:11] Portia Pendleton: My husband hadn't seen it at all. And I was like, come look at this. He's like, this is weird. And I was like, It's Armand. [30:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: He's pooping in this because he just can't take it anymore. [30:21] Portia Pendleton: He didn't like wipe. He just pulled his pants up. [30:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. That's gross. Yeah. I mean, I think he was high, so I don't think he really knew he was doing what's he going to wipe with the shirt. He should have wiped with the shirt. Oh, God. [30:38] Portia Pendleton: That would have been like the nail in the coffin just smearing your feces all over. [30:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And what a primitive form of payback. Which, again, all of these characters and their personality traits are so primitive. And they're all having temper tantrums in their own way, even Armand. But I have so much sympathy for Armand because I feel like they just pushed him to a break, literally. You're going to get fired for this. It just makes me sick. [31:05] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [31:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Armand is like I loved him. [31:08] Portia Pendleton: I loved when he was, like, lying about finding the bag, like over and over again. We'll have to keep looking. We haven't seen it. [31:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: So Armand does lie? Yeah, from the jump. He lies and can't admit wrongdoing. But then I'm like, maybe he's like, coached to do that. Maybe they're not supposed to admit fault because then they could get sued or like, who knows what. I don't know. [31:29] Portia Pendleton: I don't know. [31:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: I just feel like that stuff happens. [31:30] Portia Pendleton: All the time, though. A reservation gets missed and then it's like then if you're at a nice place, they should then take care of you. If you're paying thousands and thousands of dollars, it's like then they should have been like, yeah, you're right. We'll comp a night for the inconvenience. Or yes, of course we'll give you the difference. Give them a difference, that's all. [31:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I think I think they said they would. It just didn't clear right away. But that doesn't usually clear right away. Right. [31:54] Portia Pendleton: It's just like when you go to. [31:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: Any hotel and there's like a security charge, it takes a couple of days to come off. Right. Interestingly, though, like, the Mossbacher family does get comped. Yes. [32:02] Portia Pendleton: Well, I would hope so. [32:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's a little more than a room mix up. [32:07] Portia Pendleton: I guess. [32:12] Dr. Katrina Furey: It'S. [32:15] Portia Pendleton: So we have Nicole and what's, her husband Mark, and then Olivia and Quinn, and then Paula is the friend. So what do you think of initially Olivia and Paula? [32:27] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, my God. I just loved how woke they were, especially compared to their parents. It was just so humorous. I just felt like it was such a perfect depiction of the current generation versus the former generation and the tensions there. Totally accurate, given the political, social, cultural climate we're in. And I just loved love in terms of hated, but found humorous. Nicole's huge sympathy for the white man. Yeah, right. And I'm just like, oh, God. [33:00] Portia Pendleton: And and I love it so interesting because she's this powerful, like, business CEO and it seems like Mark is like, you know, almost like a stay at home dad. So it's interesting that within that nontypical. [33:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: Role, she is so sympathetic, but she has a white male son and I don't know, I just feel like she is just such a perfect character. Right. Like you would think as a female CEO and I'm assuming a male dominated industry, because we all are, you'd think she would be like this feminist icon. [33:31] Portia Pendleton: Right. [33:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: And again, I feel like this is maybe what Rachel's article was saying. Like, well, she's not really she kind of rolled the wave of me too to get to where she was. [33:41] Portia Pendleton: Maybe that was what it was about. [33:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maybe that's true, but she's not really a feminist icon, and I find that interesting. Like, is she insecure in her own power? I don't know. I don't know what to make of it. But I loved when they were at dinner and Olivia was like, mom, good news. I looked and I checked. All the white men are doing just fine. That was funny. [34:01] Portia Pendleton: I didn't really like Olivia and Paula. Just like, they were mean girls. I mean, besides their woke nature. And Olivia's felt really just hark toward her parents. [34:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And I think sorry to interrupt you, but I did think the mom and dad were pointing out something accurate. Like, you are so mad at us, but our privilege gives you life, and you're just, like, so unappreciative. [34:22] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, no. And I think, too, olivia and Paula's relationship felt, like, gross to me right off the get go. And just, like, they weren't really telling each other things. Olivia seemed really suspicious of Paula, and then Paula was really also suspicious of Olivia with knowing about Kai. Like, lying, hiding. No, I didn't go out. And Olivia literally she didn't say, though, I followed you. She kept a lot of that secret. I also was very upset with how they treated Quinn. [34:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [34:50] Portia Pendleton: Like, really, really mean. [34:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like, he was a dog here. Yeah, like, really mean. [34:53] Portia Pendleton: Sleep in the closet, constant putting him down. He felt a little like he could have been on the spectrum. I could have a little bit of some traits. In other ways, he seemed, like, pretty typical. But some things that Olivia had pointed. [35:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: Out, I was like. [35:08] Portia Pendleton: And then that made me even more mad that she was treating him like that. [35:12] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I could see that. Maybe what we used to call asperger's or something. I think with Olivia and Paula, at first, I thought they were good friends. Like, oh, they met in college. And I did think it was interesting that Paula was a woman of color on this trip and just really curious what's her take on all of this? I don't know how they got all those drugs there. Did they buy them there? Did they smuggle them somehow? [35:40] Portia Pendleton: Some were not prescribed. Like, a lot of them were prescription. [35:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: Based, but not like the ketamine was the pipe. I loved, though, when someone pulled out, like, how they just kept being like, oh, I forgot. I have this drug. Oh, wait, I have this drug. Oh, my God, I forgot to have my pipe. [35:55] Portia Pendleton: And you can't fly commercially with that. And they did. [35:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maybe they didn't, though. [35:58] Portia Pendleton: That's a good point. They got, like, on a commercial flight leaving. So, I mean, I'm making an assumption that maybe they did. Maybe they took a PJ down, but we're flying commercial on the way back. [36:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: But try and save some money. [36:10] Portia Pendleton: I think Paula, initially you like her because she is kind of calling people out but then I think she really kind of chooses her privilege with Kai. She does not call him when they're going back to the room, and that's, like, a big question of why. I was listening to the HBO podcast covering white Lotus, and they talked about that a lot. Like, she had her phone with her. [36:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: And she had Kai's number, and she. [36:34] Portia Pendleton: Did not contact him. She just looked scared. And then she put her the necklace that he gave her, she threw into the water, and it was just like, what are you doing? [36:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. Oh, I didn't make that connection about, like, she could have called him to warn him or say, like, get out. [36:48] Portia Pendleton: That was all her idea. [36:50] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And he really didn't want to do it, but then pushed it. And again, I think it's because, again, I feel like Olivia and Paula is another transactional relationship. I feel like Olivia uses Paula to be like, see, look, I'm woke. I have friends of color, blah, blah, blah, but not really. Right? And then we learned that I think maybe Paula's with Olivia to go on the trip. Maybe she probably went for free. I don't really know what else they're attracted to each other with in terms of their friendship, because then we learned that Olivia stole Paula's boyfriend. Right. So it's like, why do you see friends with her? Right? Like, why? And then I think that's why Paula didn't tell her about Kai, because she was worried it happened again, rightfully so. And we see that it kind of does start to happen again. And then I think Paula gets so ****** that she concocts this whole plan. [37:41] Portia Pendleton: Which, again, is not okay. I mean, not okay. Like, it's huge risk. [37:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: And Kai even says he's like, the mothbacher family didn't take our land like white people did, but they didn't. So this is just, like, stealing and stuff. But then she does kind of get in his head. And is that manipulative or, like, a vulnerable person? [38:00] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, it is manipulative, because Paula is then leaving, right? And he stayed. She's like, no, I'm going back. [38:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: I have college to get to. I have a life to get to. This is just like, a little fling. But then, yeah, she's using Kai to get back at this family who, again, has taken her on this trip. They're very problematic in their own ways. Like, not to give them a pass, but it hurts everyone. I do think we see remorse. Like, she seems genuinely remorseful and sad. [38:26] Portia Pendleton: But then I don't know if this I'm sure everything is intentional, always, because they're good writers, but on the last boat trip that they all take, paula is, like, sea sick, and she's just, like, vomiting. And Olivia's just looking at her because she knows what happened. She knows that she did that, and she's just like, oh, yeah, maybe she should have a soda. They are not at that point, interacting really at all. Olivia is realigning with her family, which again in the show seems good, right? [38:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: That she's finally hugging her mom and reconnecting and things like that. She's maybe seeing her parents as some good and some bad. Not all good or all bad. I did think it was hilarious when Nicole was like coaching Olivia on how to hold her friend's hair back while she's vomiting. As if Olivia doesn't know how to be there for a friend. She's like, pull that piece up, pull that piece up. Paula, I'm going to get you a ginger rail, honey. And I loved how every time Paula needs Tylenol because she's allergic to ibuprofen, paula has this allergy. Paula is just paula's, like she needs. [39:31] Portia Pendleton: Her out of van. [39:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. She's just so high maintenance, this Paula friend. It's just so ridiculous in an over the top way. [39:37] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I mean, they're such a funny family. And we see Quinn stay in Hawai. [39:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: I was like really happy for him. I don't know. How did you feel about that? We ran back. [39:45] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, like the show wise, I feel like it's great for him. It makes me think of this interesting little fun fact. So Hawai actually does have a problem with young people, like young runaway land going there and then becoming homeless. Do you know what woofing is? [40:02] Dr. Katrina Furey: No. [40:03] Portia Pendleton: It's like work on farm. I think there's another word in there, but a lot of college kids and people do it. So you get free room and board, typically food as well. And you can work at a farm, like for the summer, for like a. [40:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Marijuana farm or any farm. [40:16] Portia Pendleton: Any farm. [40:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Okay. I said marijuana because I've heard of something like this in Hawai, specifically on a marijuana farm. So I didn't know if it was specific to that or like any farm. [40:24] Portia Pendleton: So the person that I know went to Maui through a wolfing program was not marijuana farm, it's just like a regular farm. But they asked this person, made sure that they were returning to college. They had all these stipulations because so many people go down there to wolf and then don't leave and then become like homeless. And then there's limited resources. There's limited resources. I thought that was just interesting. [40:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: That is interesting. I think they go and fetch him. This isn't a home alone situation. I think they have the means and they will go find life there. [40:55] Portia Pendleton: I know. You go row that boat or canoe. [40:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: I loved Quinn in the technology, right, where they're like he's like freaking out because they lost all the technology. And then finally he's like, wow, the ocean is really beautiful. [41:08] Portia Pendleton: He's out there. Yes, he's sleeping. And then that group of men who are doing the paddle, like the rowing around the island really take to him and are really kind, which he seems to not be getting from his family. [41:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, you can see why he felt wanted and needed and included and that seemed really important to him. But I guess he's only 16, so I can see why his parents wouldn't want him to stay. [41:33] Portia Pendleton: It makes a lot of sense. And then Mark so we see Mark be, I think, just like inappropriate a lot. [41:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Again, talk about boundaries or lactose too. [41:43] Portia Pendleton: Much with Quinn, with everyone talking about. [41:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: His swollen testicles, you could just leave it at like, I got a medical. [41:48] Portia Pendleton: Issue, finds out about his father, who's. [41:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: A really big reaction to it. [41:52] Portia Pendleton: He's questioning his life. He seems like in a little bit of a midlife crisis based on all those things he finds out about his dad. And then he also finds out that he does not have cancer. He's just like, cancer scare. [42:02] Dr. Katrina Furey: There's a lot going on. And then he's like I can see, though, how learning that about his dad makes him feel like, did I really know you? And then he wants his son to really know him, albeit in an inappropriate way. And I felt like that conversation between him and Nicole was really well written and that she was like, you didn't think about how this would affect me now. I was originally hurt by your actions and now you're hurting me again because you're telling her children I didn't want them to know. And now I'm going to have to explain why I stayed. Why did I stay for these $75,000 bracelets? Yeah, it was really interesting. I loved when Mark was just getting drunker and drunker and drunker and seeing all the guests and just being ridiculous and then asking Armand what's that like to have sex with a man. And Armand's like, you want to find out? Yeah. [42:49] Portia Pendleton: And he was like he went too far. I just also couldn't I couldn't take him, like, beating on his chest. [42:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: But it was perfect, right? It was just like so just the white man, he's got to beat his chest and feel powerful when his wife is the one carnal with the power in the relationship. But then he gets the power by. [43:09] Portia Pendleton: Tackling Kai and saving them all. [43:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know. And then finally like, oh, now we're happy again. [43:13] Portia Pendleton: It's just trauma bonds people. [43:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Trauma bonding. Yeah. So what do you think kept Nicole and Mark together? What do you think attracted them and kept them together? Sort of how we've talked about, like, Tanya and Greg, shane and Rachel. What do you think it was with them? [43:30] Portia Pendleton: I feel like I want to say that they probably started out pretty even and I'm, again, making this all maybe. [43:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: They met in college. Yeah. [43:37] Portia Pendleton: The same kind of power dynamic, I feel like. And this is very stereotypical that he cheated as Nicole probably got more and more and more successful. Successful and maybe, like distant, like working, like gone all the time. Not in my opinion, not a reason to cheat. But I think that's maybe what kind of was the worst part of their relationship. And maybe they chose to stay because of their kids, maybe because it was convenient. Maybe they just chose to kind of have a different kind of partnership moving forward. And then now it seems like after, again, this traumatic event with the stolen goods, they feel more in touch with. [44:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Each other, like, more connected and more maybe even well, I guess tackling someone is such a masculine, heroic thing to do. And she was so mad at him, and then he came after her, so he didn't just leave her alone in her sorrows. And then he sort of did, quote, unquote, save her. Right. [44:35] Portia Pendleton: I don't think Kai was going to hurt her. I think he was just like, please. [44:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Stay there so I can get out. [44:40] Portia Pendleton: Of here situation that then got worse. It's not even like he got caught stealing. It's like then there was like, I'm sure it's all word going to get thrown in there. [44:48] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I know. He probably went to jail for a long time. He lost his job, went to jail, like this whole thing backfired. You know who didn't get in trouble? Paula. Yeah, probably. Maybe, though. I don't know. And Olivia just kind of like, using it to really get under Paula's skin. Like, well, hopefully there's no text messages. Right? [45:05] Portia Pendleton: But can you guys just stop being friends? Maybe that would be it's a toxic relationship choice. [45:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: I mean, were any of the relationships we saw healthy? No. Silence. I know. [45:19] Portia Pendleton: I really don't I don't think so. [45:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think the last thing I wanted to end on is Belinda, who I loved. But what do you think it is about Belinda where she gets used over and over? [45:33] Portia Pendleton: I think it's got to be like a mix of environmental so her role, right. Like working even specifically in a spa where you're doing different kind of healing things. [45:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: And specifically a spa at the White Lotus, like a very bougie, high end place with a specific type of clientele, maybe. [45:51] Portia Pendleton: So then there's the environment piece. And I think also, maybe she's really just on the simple side, like a really good listener. And a lot of people aren't used to that or a lot of people are. Like, she seems really awesome. [46:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: She seems very maternal, too. [46:07] Portia Pendleton: Real. And a lot of yeah. So maybe that's unexpected from for some, especially Tanya. Like, Belinda, even though I think was younger, was still more maternal. [46:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maternal. [46:19] Portia Pendleton: Same with Rachel. Rachel kind of went to her. Then Belinda, again, was being really appropriate. Gave her a tissue, asked her if. [46:25] Dr. Katrina Furey: She was all right, but then gave her cell phone number. So it's always like with Belinda, yes, there's some institutional boundaries right, that are loose because you're catering to this clientele. But then why should give her your cell phone number? Is it because you're worried about her? I think she could really do some work in therapy. As to be holding on to, like, yes, you're worried about her because you're a compassionate human and you're not responsible for her. [46:53] Portia Pendleton: Maybe there's something in her life with feeling overly responsible, and that's not a diagnosis by any means. [46:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: But that happens a lot with it does. [47:01] Portia Pendleton: Patients who are so kind and so giving, they often have the worst boundaries. [47:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [47:07] Portia Pendleton: And they get used and they don't take care of themselves. [47:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: They don't prioritize themselves in big ways and then small ways. So I feel like Belinda could really use some good quality therapy, and I. [47:20] Portia Pendleton: Think she could be in an amazing place. [47:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [47:24] Portia Pendleton: I think the others could get therapy and make changes. But Belinda seems like right on the. [47:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: Cusp where she just I feel like she has the most potential to me absolutely. Than the others. [47:32] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. We also didn't I'll just briefly mention we saw the substance use. So Olivia and Paula kind of playing around with that. And then we obviously see Armand. And then I would also take a gander that Tanya seems like she's probably on a Benzo, drinking out kind of out of it. [47:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, really out of it. Kind of dazed and detached on the cusp of slurring words, but not quite there. Yeah. No. She strikes me as someone who's been on, like, Bendy's a long time and now in her time of grief is freaking out, which happens. Like we've said before, we all regress when you're under stress or grieving or things like that. And I thought the show just did such a good job displaying such interesting interpersonal dynamics and such toxic and unhealthy relationships. Also, at this point in time in our culture, it was the perfect time for it to come out. I felt like it touched on really big cultural themes, political themes, societal themes in such a smart way where I would like to rewatch it in like, 20 years and just see what do I think then. [48:44] Portia Pendleton: I'm super excited for White Lotus season two. [48:47] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. What do you think happens? Well, I know that Tanya stayed and. [48:52] Portia Pendleton: I know that it's all new characters. I did hear that season one has just, like, the theme of money and privilege. And obviously there's privilege in season two, but season two is more like sex. [49:02] Dr. Katrina Furey: So we'll have to see. [49:05] Portia Pendleton: Stay tuned. It will be coming up this next month or this current in a couple of weeks. [49:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: So after this, we're going to release Legally Blonde, another fun, light hearted episode paying homage to Jennifer Coolidge. Is it homage or Maj? I don't know. I'm not that fancy. And then after that, we'll do White Lotus season two. [49:24] Portia Pendleton: Awesome. [49:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: So thank you for listening. Please rate review and subscribe and you can find us at Analyze Scripts on Instagram and Analyze Scripts podcast on TikTok. Thanks. [49:35] Portia Pendleton: Bye. 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In today's episode, we are honored to have Melissa Bond, a gifted writer and narrative journalist, joining us.  Melissa's life took a challenging turn when stressful events triggered her insomnia. Determined to find relief, she explored different natural remedies and eventually turned to prescribed medications like Ambien and high-dose Benzodiazepines. However, she found herself facing the harsh realities of drug dependency and its deleterious side effects.  Out of her courageous struggle and ultimate triumph, Melissa penned her remarkable memoir, "Blood Orange Night." Within this powerful book, she recounts her personal journey of overcoming a profound addiction to prescribed benzodiazepines.Join us as we gain invaluable insights from Melissa's experiences and delve into the complexities of drug dependency and the path to recovery.This episode serves as a poignant reminder of the importance of understanding the risks associated with medication use and the resilience it takes to emerge stronger on the other side.BIO:Melissa Bond is a narrative journalist, poet and matriarch to Salt Lake City's Slam Scene. The Salt Lake Tribune and the New York Post have both done features on Bond's book Blood Orange Night, her memoir about becoming dependent upon and then withdrawing from benzodiazepines. Blood Orange Night was published by Simon & Schuster in June 2022 and was selected by the New York Times as one of the best audiobooks of 2022. Bond has been featured on PBS Story in the Public Square, Radio West, the podcasts Risk!, Endeavors, Psychology Unplugged, The New York Times Podcast, RadioWest and Mom's Don't Have Time to Read Books. Learn more at MelissaABond.comSHOW NOTES: 

Naftal Benisty is the creator and host of the podcast, “Benzo Tired.” A social worker by trade, Naftal's personal experience with kindling, seizures, and multiple prescriptions for benzodiazepines steered him into the world of benzo advocacy.In our conversation, Naftal shares his benzo story and the reasons he decided to start a podcast. We also talk about seizures, the indefinite hold, BIND, deprescribing guidelines, medical education, remaining positive, and so much more.Video ID: BFP123CHAPTERS0:00:00 INTRODUCTION0:01:06 Feeling Good / Taking a Break0:02:54 Peer Support Training0:04:34 Checking in with You0:08:54 FEATURE: Naftal Benisty0:13:51 Welcome0:14:36 A Bit About Naftal0:16:15 Naftal's Benzo Story0:26:32 Benzos and Seizures0:29:20 Tapering & the Indefinite Hold0:35:18 How Are You Now?0:36:18 Starting His Podcast0:38:29 Making the Podcast Is a Gift0:41:04 Benefits of Lived Experience0:43:44 BIND Discovery0:44:59 Consortium's Deprescribing Guidelines0:46:28 U.S. vs. International Benzo Support0:50:31 Educating Medical Professionals0:52:08 Are There Good Benzo Uses?0:53:48 Haeley & Tom Episode0:56:22 Our Caregivers0:59:16 Future for Naftal / Podcast1:00:47 Long COVID and Benzos1:01:16 How Podcasts Help1:03:48 Balancing Honesty and Positivity1:06:09 Doing Great Work1:06:58 One Piece of Advice1:07:17 Deprescribing Guidelines1:08:57 Shane Kenny's Movie1:09:20 Final Words1:10:50 CLOSING RESOURCES— Benzo Tired on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7HHdbrsbTpMMmlrL9TCWfi— Benzo Tired: Haely & Tom Episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VTFkXLVDrMVrHdHiaoMaV?si=P5_pecyKSyap3iSweKPwsg— BAWG Documentation (scroll down to see “projects”): https://benzoaction.org— Deprescribing Guidelines from BAWG: https://corxconsortium.org/wp-content/uploads/Benzo-Deprescribing.pdf— BIND Description: https://easinganxiety.com/BIND SITE LINKSVISIT US ONLINE— Website: https://www.easinganxiety.com— YouTube: https://youtube.com/@easinganx— Twitter: https://twitter.com/@easinganx— Facebook: https://facebook.com/easinganxfb— Instagram: https://instagram.com/easinganxSUBSCRIBE / SUPPORT US— Join Our Mailing List: https://easinganxiety.com/subscribe— Make a Donation: https://easinganxiety.com/donate PODCAST SUMMARYThis podcast is dedicated to those who struggle with side effects, dependence, and withdrawal from benzos, a group of drugs from the benzodiazepine and nonbenzodiazepine classes, better known as anti-anxiety drugs, sleeping pills, sedatives, and minor tranquilizers. Their common brand names include Ambien, Ativan, Klonopin, Lunesta, Valium, and Xanax. DISCLAIMERAll content provided on this YouTube channel is for general informational purposes only and should never be considered medical or health advice. The author of the content provided on this channel is not engaged in rendering medical, health, psychological, or any other kind of personal or professional services. Health-related information provided is not a substitute for medical advice and should not be used to diagnose or treat health problems or to prescribe any medical devices or other remedies.Never disregard medical advice or delay in seeking it.Please visit our website for our complete disclaimer at https://www.easinganxiety.com/disclaimer. MUSIC CREDITS— All music provided / licensed through Storyblocks (https://www.storyblocks.com) Benzo Free Theme— Title: "Walk in the Park"— Artist: Neil Cross PRODUCTION CREDITSEasing Anxiety is produced by…Denim Mountain Presshttps://www.denimmountainpress.com

This week Be a Man, John Fiore and Tonzo talk about normal people, Growing up miserable, Undiagnosed issues, Feel good fights, bad thoughts, visions, Whoremasters, Therapists, The nut house, Tent city, Crazy broads, Benzo's, Self medication, Hiding emotions, Serenity now, Overly positive people, Damaged goods, Religion as a form of mental health, and Be A Man checks out a cult. SHOP: http://www.Bostonbeaman.com GET YOUR DAD the PERFECT GIFT FOR FATHERS DAY: https://a.co/d/esoI7Ox

Personality changes. Loss of ability. Loss of confidence. Loss of self. These are common in benzo withdrawal and BIND, and yet we rarely talk about them. What does this look like? What are its causes? And most of all, what can we do about it?In today's episode, we explore the loss of self during benzo withdrawal. We also respond to a question on tinnitus, share a comment on the benefits of nature, and hear a benzo story from New Zealand.https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/who-am-i-now-confidence-and-self-esteem-in-benzo-withdrawal-bind-bfp122Video ID: BFP122Chapters00:00 INTRODUCTION01:28 Back from Vacation03:36 Benzo Work Updates04:57 Still Have Some Symptoms07:00 Today's Format08:11 MAILBAG08:17 Benzos and Tinnitus12:58 Nature and Connection15:39 BENZO STORY16:29 Eta's Mum's Story / New Zealand22:04 Medical Communication Failures25:40 FEATURE26:59 BIND Refresher27:43 Our Lives Have Changed28:29 Benzo Life Effects Data30:41 Loss of Confidence35:00 Humility vs. Egoism35:54 Symptoms that Affect Confidence38:23 What Can We Do?38:42 Making Use of the Extra Time40:35 Finding Acceptance42:59 Six Tips for Improving Self-Esteem47:22 MOMENT OF PEACE ResourcesThe following resource links are provided as a courtesy to our listeners. They do not constitute an endorsement by Easing Anxiety of the resource or any recommendations or advice provided therein.— Ackerman, Courtney E. “What Is Self-Confidence? (+9 Proven Ways to Increase It).” Positive Psychology. July 9, 2018. Accessed May 11, 2023. https://positivepsychology.com/self-confidence/.— Ashton, C. Heather. Benzodiazepines: How They Work and How to Withdraw (aka The Ashton Manual). 2002. Accessed April 13, 2016. https://easinganxiety.com/ashton.— Finlayson, AJ Reid, Macoubrie J, Huff C, Foster DE, Martin PR. Experiences with benzodiazepine use, tapering, and discontinuation: an Internet survey. Therapeutic Advances in Psychopharmacology. 2022;12. doi:10.1177/20451253221082386. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20451253221082386.— Foster, D E. Benzo Free: The World of Anti-Anxiety Drugs and the Reality of Withdrawal. Erie, CO: Denim Mountain Press, 2018. https://www.benzofree.org/book.— Huff C, Finlayson AJR, Foster DE, Martin PR. Enduring neurological sequelae of benzodiazepine use: an Internet survey. Therapeutic Advances in Psychopharmacology. 2023;13. doi:10.1177/20451253221145561. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20451253221145561.— Ravenscraft, Eric. “Practical Ways to Improve Your Confidence (and Why You Should).” New York Times. June 3, 2019. Accessed May 11, 2023. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/03/smarter-living/how-to-improve-self-confidence.html.— Tinnitus. Mayo Clinic Patient Care & Health Information. Accessed May 11, 2023. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tinnitus/symptoms-causes/syc-20350156.— “Top 10 Tips for Overcoming Low Self-Esteem.” Ditch the Label. September 26, 2022. Accessed May 11, 2023. https://www.ditchthelabel.org/overcoming-low-self-esteem/. The PodcastThe Benzo Free Podcast provides information, support, and community to those who struggle with the long-term effects of anxiety medications such as benzodiazepines (Xanax, Ativan, Klonopin, Valium) and Z-drugs (Ambien, Lunesta, Sonata).WEBSITE: https://www.easinganxiety.comMAILING LIST: https://www.easinganxiety.com/subscribeYOUTUBE: https://youtube.com/@easinganxDISCLAIMERAll content provided by Easing Anxiety is for general informational purposes only and should never be considered medical advice. Any health-related information provided is not a substitute for medical advice and should not be used to diagnose or treat health problems, or to prescribe any medical devices or other remedies. Never disregard medical advice or delay in seeking it. Please visit our website for our complete disclaimer at https://www.easinganxiety.com/disclaimer.CREDITSMusic provided / licensed by Storyblocks Audio— https://www.storyblocks.comBenzo Free Theme — Title: “Walk in the Park”— Artist: Neil CrossPRODUCTIONEasing Anxiety is produced by…Denim Mountain Presshttps://www.denimmountainpress.com©2023 Denim Mountain Press – All Rights Reserved

In this episode of the Unstoppable Empath Series, I (Jack) had the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Jenn Leigh, a benzo withdrawal coach with over 8 years of personal experience in benzo withdrawal herself. And she worked with Tiff, when Tiff was facing her own life-threatening benzo withdrawal experience.  This interview with Dr. Jenn is a must-listen for anyone who has experienced benzo addiction or withdrawal, or who is supporting someone else through this challenging experience. Her personal experience and compassionate approach to healing are truly inspiring, and she provides valuable resources and tools to help anyone navigate this difficult process with more ease and grace. Dr. Jenn's Important links: Dr. Jenn's website > www.benzowithdrawalhelp.com What is BIND > https://benzowithdrawalhelp.com/for-healthcare-professionals/what-is-bin Letter to Doctors > https://benzowithdrawalhelp.com/letter-to-doctors-2/    ⬇️   EMPATH SCHOOL WEBSITE >>> www.empathschool.com TIFF & JACK CONNECTED EMPATH FB COMMUNITY >>> click here MAMA TIFFTOKS ON TIKTOK >>> click here TIFF & JACK INSTAGRAM >>> click here EMPATH COACHING >>> click here CONTACT US >>>  click here  

RMA-Episode 109: Xanax Shenanigans: A Prescription for Disaster This week on RMA, we review the 2022 documentary film Take your Pills: Xanax, currently streaming on Netflix.  We also dive deep into the world of Xanax and benzodiazepine abuse, discussing the history, widespread use, and the challenges presented by aggressive pharmaceutical marketing and overprescription of these drugs.   Please remember to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast on your favorite platform to get the latest episode delivered right to your devices as soon as it's released. We are a listener-supported podcast. If you like what we're doing here at RMA and want to support the show, JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON    Our sole mission is to help other people achieve sobriety and become their best, most authentic selves. As little as $3 a month makes a big difference and helps us keep the lights on.    https://www.patreon.com/RecoveryintheMiddleAges   Visit www.soberlink.com/middle-ages to sign up and receive $50 off your device.  As always, we thank you for your support.   LINKS: Recovery in the News   www.soberliningsplaybook.com LISTEN TO RMA ON YOUTUBE PLEASE leave us a 5 star review on I-Tunes if you're enjoying the show and SUBSCRIBE to get the latest episodes.    You can reach us by email at: MikeR@middleagesrecovery.com Natx@middleagesrecovery.com   Send comments, complaints, death threats, ideas and requests to be interviewed. We'll talk to anyone!   Check out the website:   Www.middleagesrecovery.com    While you're there, buy a T-Shirt and support your favorite recovery podcast.   We all have a story. Tell us yours and we'll share it on the show!   E-Mail your story to miker@middleagesrecovery.com   FOLLOW US ON TWITTER  Join the Facebook Page! Exciting things are happening there!   We also have a Facebook Group! Request to join the group. It's a private space for continuing the discussion of what Nat and Mike talk about on the podcast. Hope to see you there.   If you're in trouble with substance abuse and need help, reach out. There are thousands of people who have put problems with addiction in their rear-view mirrors and you can be one of them. While we neither endorse nor condemn any particular program, the sheer number of available AA and NA meetings suggest that reaching out to those organizations would be a good first step (but maybe not the last step), on your road to recovery.     https://www.aa.org/ https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/   Marijuana Anonymous (just in case):   This Naked Mind

Share this post with others: David Powers is an artist, filmmaker, PhD candidate in psychology, and founder of Powers Benzo Recovery Coaching. After a severe car accident, David became dependent on diazepam. Now benzo-free, he helps others through his films, videos, and coaching. In Part I of our conversation, we hear about David's personal struggle with benzodiazepines. We also discuss research and funding, the limbic system, GABA, fear, hope, symptoms, and even chat a bit about film. Please join us for this relaxed and informative conversation. Podcast ID: BFP114 Chapters 0:00:00  INTRODUCTION0:02:35  Rx Summit0:03:46  Upcoming Vacation0:06:02  INTERVIEW: Intro0:07:28  Filmmakers Chat0:11:38  Welcome to the Podcast0:12:34  David's Benzo Story0:25:38  Benzo Advocacy0:27:29  Are You Fully Healed?0:28:39  Giving Hope0:30:36 Audience-Led Podcasts0:33:14  Publishing His Book0:34:47  Moving into Coaching0:38:22  Benzo Recovery School0:44:56  Wrapping Up PhD0:46:26  Research and Funding0:50:35  Forums and Fear0:53:35  GABA and the Limbic System0:56:08  Responding to Fear0:58:15  Nerves, Symptoms, and Focus1:02:24  CLOSING References The following resource links are provided as a courtesy to our listeners. They do not constitute an endorsement by Benzo Free of the resource or any recommendations or advice provided therein. RESOURCES (Powers Benzo Recovery Coaching) Website — https://www.powersbenzocoaching.com/ YouTube — https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC18DrdP18DuSxoi2dxuSYUg Benzo Recovery School — https://www.powersbenzocoaching.com/benzoschool Site Links VISIT US ONLINE— WEBSITE: https://www.easinganxiety.com— YOUTUBE: https://youtube.com/@easinganx Podcast Summary This podcast is dedicated to those who struggle with side effects, dependence, and withdrawal from benzos, a group of drugs from the benzodiazepine and nonbenzodiazepine classes, better known as anti-anxiety drugs, sleeping pills, sedatives, and minor tranquilizers. Their common brand names include Ambien, Ativan, Klonopin, Lunesta, Valium, and Xanax. Feedback We'd love to hear from you! The Benzo Free Podcast is a community podcast and we need your input to help it grow and improve. You can tell us what you think in the following ways: Fill out our Feedback Form at https://www.easinganxiety.com/feedback Email us at feedback@easinganxiety.com Comment on one of our videos or posts. Disclaimer All content provided on this YouTube channel is for general informational purposes only and should never be considered medical or health advice. The author of the content provided on this channel is not engaged in rendering medical, health, psychological, or any other kind of personal or professional services. Health-related information provided is not a substitute for medical advice and should not be used to diagnose or treat health problems or to prescribe any medical devices or other remedies. Never disregard medical advice or delay in seeking it. Please visit our website for our complete disclaimer at https://www.easinganxiety.com/disclaimer. Music Credits All music is provided by and licensed through Storyblocks (https://storyblocks.com). Benzo Free Theme— Title: "Walk in the Park"— Artist: Neil Cross Production Credits Easing Anxiety is produced by…Denim Mountain Presshttps://www.denimmountainpress.com

Share this post with others: David Powers is an artist, filmmaker, PhD candidate in psychology, and founder of Powers Benzo Recovery Coaching. After a severe car accident, David became dependent on diazepam. Now benzo-free, he helps others through his films, videos, and coaching. In Part II of our conversation, we learn about support, coaching, and membership sites. We also discuss psychology, overprescribing, gratitude, burnout, healing, society, culture, and much more. Please join us for this relaxed and informative conversation. Podcast ID: BFP115 Chapters 00:00  INTRODUCTION02:04  Benzo Recovery School07:13  Benzo Collaboration13:09  Shooting Short Films14:25  Feature Benzo Film20:11  Support, Burnout, and Fees28:38  Benzo Clinic / Commune30:53  Structured Healing33:34  Opportunity for Positive Change37:07  Gratitude in Withdrawal37:37  Jungian Approach40:38  Not the Ideal Situation41:09  Benzo Overprescribing44:21  Benzo Revolution44:58  America, Society, and Unity47:43  Bruce Lee, a Chinese Hero48:22  Humanity and Positivity51:34  Age, Wisdom, and Reality56:43  Wrapping Up58:47  CLOSING References The following resource links are provided as a courtesy to our listeners. They do not constitute an endorsement by Benzo Free of the resource or any recommendations or advice provided therein. POWERS BENZO RECOVERY COACHING Website — https://www.powersbenzocoaching.com/ YouTube — https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC18DrdP18DuSxoi2dxuSYUg Benzo Recovery School — https://www.powersbenzocoaching.com/benzoschool Site Links VISIT US ONLINE— WEBSITE: https://www.easinganxiety.com— YOUTUBE: https://youtube.com/@easinganx Podcast Summary This podcast is dedicated to those who struggle with side effects, dependence, and withdrawal from benzos, a group of drugs from the benzodiazepine and nonbenzodiazepine classes, better known as anti-anxiety drugs, sleeping pills, sedatives, and minor tranquilizers. Their common brand names include Ambien, Ativan, Klonopin, Lunesta, Valium, and Xanax. Feedback We'd love to hear from you! The Benzo Free Podcast is a community podcast and we need your input to help it grow and improve. You can tell us what you think in the following ways: Fill out our Feedback Form at https://www.easinganxiety.com/feedback Email us at feedback@easinganxiety.com Comment on one of our videos or posts. Disclaimer All content provided on this YouTube channel is for general informational purposes only and should never be considered medical or health advice. The author of the content provided on this channel is not engaged in rendering medical, health, psychological, or any other kind of personal or professional services. Health-related information provided is not a substitute for medical advice and should not be used to diagnose or treat health problems or to prescribe any medical devices or other remedies. Never disregard medical advice or delay in seeking it. Please visit our website for our complete disclaimer at https://www.easinganxiety.com/disclaimer. Music Credits All music is provided by and licensed through Storyblocks (https://storyblocks.com). Benzo Free Theme— Title: "Walk in the Park"— Artist: Neil Cross Production Credits Easing Anxiety is produced by…Denim Mountain Presshttps://www.denimmountainpress.com

Share this post with others: What happens when COVID meets BIND? What happens when someone in protracted benzodiazepine withdrawal gets long COVID? Does it set off a wave? Does it make their benzo symptoms worse? Tune in for answers and more. In today's episode, we explore COVID and benzodiazepine withdrawal (BIND). We also look at endogenous benzodiazepines, hear two benzo stories of success, and visit the launch of our new website and social media feeds. I hope you find it helpful. Podcast ID: BFP113 Chapters 0:00:00  INTRODUCTION0:03:10  Podcast Anniversary0:05:15  MAILBAG0:05:52  Endogenous Benzodiazepines0:07:21  Benzodiazepines in Potatoes0:09:44  BENZO SPOTLIGHT0:10:47  About the New Website0:12:48  Member Community on EA0:14:55  About Membership Tiers0:17:21  Our Handle / YouTube0:19:29  Social Media0:23:47  BENZO STORIES0:24:08  Ted's Story0:27:08  Judith's Story0:30:41  FEATURE: COVID and Benzos0:34:11  D's COVID Experience0:38:57  Jennifer: Could the vaccine be a trigger?0:40:33  Dan: COVID, Flu, and a Big Wave0:41:37  Jürg: COVID Setback?0:45:14  Annette: COVID Constriction0:46:36  Chuck: A Medical Perspective         0:49:11  Benzos and COVID Immunity0:50:13  Benzos and COVID Drugs0:51:12  Benzos and COVID Hospitalization0:52:11  Long COVID and BIND0:54:28  Long COVID Digestion Issues0:56:30  Neurological Effects of COVID0:58:53  COVID and Dysphagia (Swallowing)1:00:10  Long COVID Frequency1:00:53  My Theory / Summation1:01:58  Finding Hope1:04:46  CLOSING References The following resource links are provided as a courtesy to our listeners. They do not constitute an endorsement by Benzo Free of the resource or any recommendations or advice provided therein. RESOURCES BIND Symptoms. Easing Anxiety. https://easinganxiety.com/symptoms. COVID-19 (& Benzos). Benzodiazepine Information Coalition (BIC). https://www.benzoinfo.com/covid-19/. COVID-19: Long-term effects. Mayo Clinic. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351. Long COVID or Post-COVID Conditions. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html. EA PODCAST EPISODES ON COVID Anxiety, Benzos, and a Virus. Episode 61. March 17, 2020. https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/anxiety-benzos-and-a-virus-bfp061. COVID and Benzos: Immunity, Vaccines, Symptoms. Episode 80. April 28, 2021. https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/covid-and-benzos-immunity-vaccines-symptoms-bfp080. EA VIDEOS ON COVID 10 Anxiety Tips for Dealing with Relationships during COVID. Video #20. September 24, 2020. https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/10-anxiety-tips-for-dealing-with-relationships-during-covid. 3 Basic Anxiety Tips amid COVID-19. Video #3. April 3, 2020. https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/3-basic-anxiety-tips-amid-covid-19. Anxiety and the Loss of Control During COVID-19. Video #5. April 11, 2020. https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/anxiety-and-the-loss-of-control-during-covid-19. Anxiety, Overwhelm, COVID & a Trip to Estes Park. Video #18. August 20, 2020. https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/anxiety-overwhelm-covid-a-trip-to-estes-park-vlog-7. Anxiety Rising: The Hidden Hardship of COVID-19. Video #10. May 20, 2020. https://www.easinganxiety.com/post/anxiety-rising-the-hidden-hardship-of-covid-19-vlog-1. REFERENCES Ashton, C. Heather. Benzodiazepines: How They Work and How to Withdraw (aka The Ashton Manual). 2002. Accessed April 13, 2016. http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual. Avallone R, Zeneroli ML, Venturini I, Corsi L, Schreier P, Kleinschnitz M, Ferrarese C, Farina F, Baraldi C, Pecora N, Frigo M, Baraldi M. Endogenous benzodiazepine-like compounds and diazepam binding inhibitor in serum of patients with liver cirrhosis with and without overt encephalopathy. Gut. 1998 Jun;42(6):861-7. doi: 10.1136/gut.42.6.861. PMID: 9691927; PMCID: PMC1727144. https://www.

It's been six months since we did our last podcast, so in this episode I'll talk about how the past year has gone for me, we check in with Lisa on her very slow symptom guided taper.  We talk to Mellie who is fully recovered now, and we talk with Jim Thompson who we have been following with his Benzo taper now completed and his journey off of his antidepressant. Finally, I'll give some great updates with others that have we have interviewed in the past that you will want to hear. I hope you all enjoy the episode. 

WE'RE BACK! And yes, we're OK. (Thanks to everyone who called and voiced their earnest concern, ha.) On today's episode of Who's There, our weekly call-in show, we learn about a fitness influencer with a VERY surprising past before playing your comments about Grunch, Gayle King's smiling strategy, and Marc Anthony's love of the most beautiful women in the universe. Moving on, we answer questions about Dylan Mulvaney and her Grammy's red carpet appearance, Benzo's new boyfriend, Lauren London's alleged CGI kiss, and someone named Jimmy Garoppolo??????? Call in at 619.WHO.THEM to leave questions, comments & concerns for a future episode of Who's There. Support us and get a TON of bonus content over on Patreon.com/WhoWeekly. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices