Podcasts about mind body nutrition

Dr. Angela Thyer and Judy Simon discuss their book 'Getting to Baby' and the importance of nutrition and lifestyle in fertility. They share their backgrounds and how they came together to help women improve their nutrition and health for better fertility outcomes. The book covers the connection between food and fertility, the importance of whole foods, debunking misconceptions about diet and fertility, and the benefits of intuitive eating and cooking. They emphasize the need for diversity in food choices and the impact of processed foods on fertility. The book also includes practical tips and recipes to support a healthy pregnancy journey. The conversation covers topics such as the importance of breakfast and meal timing, the impact of nutrition on fertility, the role of integrative medicine in fertility treatment, and the power of lifestyle choices in influencing fertility outcomes. The guests emphasize the importance of combining foods and the role of vegetables in supporting digestion and overall health. They also discuss the impact of stress, sleep, and epigenetics on fertility. The conversation highlights the need for a multidisciplinary approach to fertility treatment and the importance of finding a supportive healthcare team.   Takeaways Nutrition and lifestyle play a crucial role in fertility and improving fertility outcomes. Eating whole foods, including a variety of fruits, vegetables, plant-based proteins, and whole grains, is important for fertility. There are many misconceptions about diet and fertility, such as the need to cut out carbs or follow specific diets. It's important to focus on nourishing the body with whole foods. Intuitive eating and cooking skills are valuable in creating a healthy and sustainable approach to nutrition. Diversity in food choices is essential for optimal fertility and overall health. Processed foods can negatively impact fertility, and it's important to prioritize whole foods. The book provides practical tips, recipes, and a six-week blueprint to support a healthy pregnancy journey. Breakfast is an important meal for fertility and overall health. It is best to have a substantial breakfast with protein, fiber, and vegetables. Meal timing is crucial, and it is recommended to have more calories earlier in the day and fewer at night. Combining foods, especially vegetables, can support digestion and nutrient absorption. Stress, sleep, and lifestyle choices have a significant impact on fertility outcomes. Epigenetics plays a role in fertility, and lifestyle choices can influence gene expression. A multidisciplinary approach to fertility treatment, including integrative medicine, can provide comprehensive support. Finding a supportive healthcare team is essential for navigating the fertility journey.   Guest Bio: Judy Simon Judy Simon, MS, RDN, CD, CHES is an award winning registered dietitian nutritionist who specializes in reproductive health. She is the founder of Mind Body Nutrition, PLLC and a clinical instructor at the University of Washington. Judy's expertise includes fertility, PCOS, eating disorders, weight inclusive medicine and reproductive health.  Judy has held leadership roles in the American Society of Reproductive Medicine Nutrition Special Interest Group and is a Fellow of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.  Judy integrates mindfulness, intuitive eating, eating competence, while taking a non-judgmental, inclusive down approach to help people have healthier, more fertile lives.  Judy is the co-founder of Food For Fertility program and co-author of the upcoming (April, 2024) book Getting to Baby A Food-first Fertility Plan to Improve Your Odds and Shorten Your Time to Pregnancy, Ben Bella Publisher   Guest Bio: Angela Thyer Angela Thyer, MD is board certified in Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility, Ob/Gyn and Lifestyle Medicine. She is a founding partner of Seattle Reproductive Medicine. Dr. Thyer completed her undergraduate education at Duke University, medical school at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine, residency at Oregon Health and Science University, and fellowship at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. She completed The Culinary Coaching program through the Institute of Lifestyle Medicine in 2020 and became a certified plant-based chef through Rouxbe in 2022. She and Judy Simon, MS, RDN created the Food for Fertility program and have co-authored a book coming out in 2024, Getting to Baby: A Food-First Fertility Plan to Improve Your Odds and Shorten Your Time to Pregnancy which highlights the best foods to optimize fertility.   Website & Social media links (Facebook, instagram, twitter)   Instagram: @angelathyermd Website: angelathyermd.com     For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com   Click here to find out how to get the first chapter of "The Way of Fertility" for free.   The Wholesome FertilityFacebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/   Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility   Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/         Transcript:   Michelle: So Angela and Judy, welcome. Angela: Thank you so much. We're excited to be here, Michelle. Michelle: So I'd love for you guys to give a background first. , I'm very excited to be talking about your new book, Getting to Baby. I would love for you first to share your background so people can know more about you and what got you to doing this type of work. Angela: Okay. Sure. I'm a reproductive endocrinologist and infertility specialist. So first I trained in OBGYN and then specialized in reproductive endocrine and infertility. And then I got board certified in lifestyle medicine. So, which is a more holistic kind of way to look at all healthcare, more of a preventive lens of like, how can we look at lifestyle measures to, you know, really help people in all phases of their life. Angela: And I've always been interested in food, nutrition, exercise. And so over the years, it just became a bigger and[00:01:00] bigger part of my practice. And I've always been interested in obviously hormones, but metabolism and Judy and I started working together at the university of Washington. And we found we had this common interest in really helping women, you know, work together to improve their nutrition and health, which subsequently leads to improvement in their fertility. Michelle: Oh, totally. Judy: And I'm a registered dietitian, as Angela mentioned, and my master's is in community health education. And I sort of went through traditional training, and when I came back and re entered, you know, medicine, gosh, about 20 ish years ago, all of a sudden, PCOS and all these things that I had never really learned about just came front and forward. Judy: And so I was fortunate to connect up with Angela and really do the deep dive into, Hey, what do we know about insulin resistance? How is this affecting fertility? And these were things that traditionally I hadn't been taught. [00:02:00]So really, I think we kind of joined each other's worlds. You know, I joined American Society of Reproductive Medicine and, you know, joined all the fertility docs. Judy: And You know, Angela would come to the nutrition conferences. So we did a lot of cross pollination and from that we went off and both started into private practices and she'd refer these amazing patients and we decided, wow, we're seeing them one at a time. Wouldn't it just be the coolest thing if we could start classes? Judy: So about 12 ish years ago, we started the food for fertility classes where we brought women in who were trying to conceive. Many of them had PCOS, endometriosis. unexplained, lots of different diagnosis. And that's who we brought the food and the people and the lifestyle into the classroom, which is really why we wrote the book. Judy: It's kind of, we took all our years of experience, science and knowledge and said, let's make it accessible to more people. Michelle: That's awesome. And so [00:03:00] talk about the book. What's in the book? And obviously it's for people trying to conceive, getting to baby. What were the top things?  Angela: Yeah. Well, we, we started off by, you know, kind of, we always want people to understand the whys, you know, why this, why that what's the connection, what's the underlying biology and physiology? And then what evidence do we know? A lot of nutritional studies about fertility or observational studies, like they'll a population will be observed and they'll say, okay, people who ate these kinds of diets or these kinds of foods had higher fertility and more successful outcomes than people who ate this kind of diet. Angela: So, you know, we, we want to, wanted to present all that information. So people kind of have background and good knowledge and can kind of say, oh, okay, well. Maybe that would be a good idea for me. You know, it's not, it's, it's a broad spectrum of what, you know, a good diet could look like. It's not just one thing. Angela: Obviously [00:04:00] mainly plant forward. Cause I think we all need to eat more fruits and vegetables and plant based foods. But there is room, you know, for some animal foods too, especially things like fish and whole fat dairy, which have shown to increase some fertility benefits. So, you know, we kind of go through all the food groups and talk about what's, what we, where we have evidence, what's good, what's not so good and what vitamins and minerals and nutrients they're adding. Angela: And then, you know, some of the biggest things that we're like, if you want to incorporate this, it's a really, it's a how to. Right. So we wanted to make it like accessible in this sense that anybody at home could be like, Oh, okay. I, gosh, I just want to add one little thing this week. What would I add? What can, what's my takeaway? Angela: What's my smart goal? So people can kind of set their own goals and try to move forward with that, making a little progress at a time. And then the greatest thing I think is sharing stories from our patients who are just fabulous[00:05:00] women who've been on their own journey. And we had so many stories, we couldn't even share them all in the book. Angela: But kind of telling these journeys that sometimes took months, sometimes took years and how they were able to incorporate changes and see changes in themselves. and feel increased energy and then kind of have improved fertility. Maybe if they had a partner, you know, their partner's health was also improving at the same time. Angela: And so many of them were successful either With natural conception, or if they were infertility treatments, having better success in those treatments and making better quality embryos that we were like, wow, you know, that's really what's in the book. So as much as we could share and keep it accessible and reasonable in length. Angela: That's, that's what the book's about. Michelle: I found it very user friendly and I really enjoyed the image of the plate and how half of it was greens, which is great because I do believe that it's so important to get the greens. And there's so many nutrients that you can get[00:06:00] from that. And you talked about some misconceptions too, like on treating PCOS and like common misconceptions on what to eat for fertility. Michelle: So I'd love to touch upon that. Judy: Yeah, well, one of the things that we tried to bring out in the book is when we first started doing our classes, a lot of the reasons women would be referred to us as we'll just go lose weight. So nothing, you know, focusing on their health and we're like, Oh no, no, no, this is not a weight loss class. Judy: This is totally about how to nourish yourself. And actually. Take away the shame and guilt in, you know, whatever size body you have being able to get the benefits of the nutrition and the lifestyle. Right? So, for example there's a lot of people that would come in with a whole list of foods that they thought they shouldn't eat because somebody told them that. Judy: And we're like, well, are you allergic to them? No. Well, okay, you know, here's a safe And that's what we tried to do in the [00:07:00] book. Like showing in all these different, you know, sure, maybe you can't tolerate dairy. Here's a sub, here's something else you can, you can place out so that everybody would feel included, that anybody could be in the classes, read the book and really get the benefit out of it. Judy: So when, when you talk about myths, probably the biggest one is, you know so many women are told cut out carbs. Cut out carbs and we're like, Oh no. Well, what's in whole grains and ancient grains. We know those inositols we hear about in PCOS. Guess where they come from? White beans, buckwheat. So we're saying where can you get these ancient grains are just so filled with minerals and also really showing that looking at the quality of carbs that you're choosing most of the time is actually going to be beneficial. Judy: And this is kind of relief for women to hear like, I don't have to starve myself. I get to eat and try new things. Michelle: Yeah. That's such a good point. And also, cause a [00:08:00] lot of times when people have carbs, it's simple carbs or juices where you're taking basically, even if it's fresh juices, like we're really meant to have the whole fruit, right? The fiber like, and digest it slowly so that it's not a sugar spike. I'd love for you to talk about that too, the importance of, of actually having the whole food. Angela: Yeah, we definitely talk about kind of it being a whole food diet because that is so important and The issue with I mean, yes, you can get some of the nutrients if you juice But you're also gonna get mainly sugar without the fiber if you've removed the fiber. So the fiber is so important both to slow down your digestion and really pay attention to gut health. Angela: And I know you focus a lot on gut health. You know, that's where so much of our health overall starts. And there's so many connections between the gut and the mind and the body and the hormones and everything else, every, every system. And so, having that [00:09:00] fiber in your diet, really from whole foods. I mean, especially plant based foods, right? Angela: Because animal foods don't have fiber, but the plant based foods really then is is great food for the microbiomes, the microbiome, our microbiome and the bacteria, the 3 trillion bacteria that live in our gut. And it helps create, you know, it's more anti inflammatory because so many people kind of can get. Angela: almost a chronic inflammation from not eating enough fiber, not feeding their microbiome. And then that can lead to more issues in more body systems that they may not even be aware of. But nobody is, you know, advertising whole foods, like whole foods. So much of what people see and kind of the noise that feeds in is just, you know, everything else that's marketed in a box or a bag or somebody. Angela: And so that's what, and so sometimes those help people put health claims on other products that [00:10:00] aren't whole foods and then whole foods kind of get neglected. And so, yeah, we definitely want to say, you know, it's important. And we talk about eating the rainbow and the colors because each colors, providing different phytonutrients. Angela: And so, you know, you want that broad range because the more diversity you have in your fruits and vegetables, the more diverse a microbiome you're going to develop, the better protection for your immune system and just make everything else work better in your whole body. Michelle: I love that you talk about diversity because actually a lot of people end up developing sensitivities even if it's healthy food that they eat all the time and it's important to have diversity because it really allows the body to get so many different benefits and also not get too intolerant of one specific thing. Michelle: The body likes diversity. Judy: Absolutely. And we really wanted people to feel inclusive with the book. So that's why there's so much [00:11:00]culinary medicine, like just basic skills. Here's how you can throw something together without even a recipe, you know, just really, you know, five steps to a great salad. What should it have, you know, different things like that. Judy: And we also wanted it to really highlight the, All the global cuisines. And so for example I see a large population of South Asian women, right? And so there's, there, there always were like their diets too high in carbs. And we talked about what are all the wonderful things that herbs that you're using, the dolls, you know, the pulses, but we tried to make sure we had things from all regions because unfortunately a lot of people here in the medical world, like, Oh, just eat the Mediterranean diet. Judy: We're like, Oh no, no, no way. That that's so exclusive. It's not inclusive. We want to talk about, you know, foods from, you know, West Africa or Central America, a lot of the indigenous healthy foods, and then also what's seasonally available. And so one of the things that we really tried to [00:12:00]share is a lot of different types of foods. Judy: Simple preparation, but let people start where they're comfortable. So if you're a chef that only has three or four recipes and you're still sort of using some are processed foods, maybe they'll start with adding a soup or adding some vegetable dishes or adding a salad and letting them know you're going to get benefits from those first steps. Judy: Because some people feel like, like I just talked to someone, she goes, I'm trying to be all in, you know, trying to be perfect. Do you know what I mean? Michelle: Yeah, Judy: And that's stressful. It's stressful to feel like you're getting a grade on your diet. And we want people to feel like it's fun. They're having a date night with their partner and maybe they're trying a new recipe in the book. Judy: Or they got inspired because there is a lot of pressure when people are trying to conceive. And the book is also for those people who are like, Hey, we want to get pregnant in the next year. What's the path to a healthy pregnancy? We have no idea how long it's going to take, but [00:13:00] what's going to prepare us? Judy: And you know, Michelle, that like 50 percent of pregnancies are unplanned. So a lot of people, you know, maybe they're exposed to a lot of those fertility disruptors, and if they would have known even a few months in advance, they could have decreased some of the risks, you know that could impact their fertility and pregnancy. Michelle: definitely. I remember seeing something, it was about a burger or like a chicken sandwich or something. It was a sandwich with a bun that the woman just kept in her closet and just saw what happened and it was not, it was not good. Breaking down and I'm like, whoa That is crazy. Like things are supposed to break down if they don't break down and they don't yeah Just break down like what happens in your body So talk about the importance of eating whole foods. Michelle: Listen, we're going to have processed food once in a while. It's not like, you know, end all be all like, it's not one thing or another, obviously, [00:14:00] but talk about the importance of really being intentional about choosing more whole foods in your diet.  Angela: Well, you know, I do think, I think that everybody's so different in what they eat, but I think that, yeah, the ultra processed foods and processed grains, so like breads, cereals, pastas, Anything it's just so it it's everywhere, right? It's it's you can't get away from it and it's become normalized And it and so it has become acceptable and ordinary And the problem with those foods is yeah, you don't need to say i'm not never going to eat that again But it replaces it, you know, it takes the place of whole foods. Angela: And so I think you know Where do you get whole foods? Well, it's hard to get whole foods You You know if you're eating If you're buying foods at convenience stores or fast food restaurants or even regular restaurants Sometimes i'm surprised that menus don't have Kind of like more vegetables available when we talk about the fertility plate[00:15:00] and the whole plate being half Vegetables, right? Angela: You're not going to get that in a restaurant, like the restaurant usually. So, you know, we, we have talked to women, we didn't really talk about this that much in the book, but like, I think some of the women gave us examples of, you know, planning when you go to a restaurant, gosh, what can I eat from this menu that would be more of a whole food, what are the, sometimes the side vegetables are something they'll order from some of those things to say like, yeah, I don't need to necessarily go for the most. Indulgent luxurious meal. I want to go for the whole foods cause I know that's what my body needs. So we talk about being intuitive eater or competent eater. It, you know, I don't think this is taught well in schools. So, you know, to, to be honest, nobody, it's nobody's fault. Like where you are, it's a growth opportunity for everybody to be like, Hey, I didn't really get this education growing up. Angela: My parents worked. I didn't, you know, I didn't cook that much growing up, but now I'm an adult. And I need to really learn about [00:16:00] nutrition and what my body needs and how to heal myself through food. And what that might mean is I need to cook more. And if I don't know how to cook more with whole foods, You know, there's opportunities to learn. Angela: There's so much now available on YouTube, or that's both good and not so good, but you know, you can find the good, the good things and learn to cook with whole foods and buy things like our book, which are trying to teach people almost some intuitive cooking skills. Cause you don't always want to be cooking from a recipe. Angela: You want to get some basic staples and some comfort in the kitchen and some things you really are good at, and then always build new and add new. Okay. But yeah, so that was like one of the tenants of our philosophy of how we taught was, let's talk about, you know, building a meal. Let's talk about what vegetables are going to be in the meal, what protein is going to be in the meal. Angela: And for us, that was mainly going to be a [00:17:00] plant based protein. So either beans, lentils. tofu or tempeh or edamame, so a soy based protein, or fish, since all of those have been shown to increase fertility. And then whole grains, those ancient grains, so not processed and kind of putting that all together and nuts and seeds and other things that provide those denser nutrients. Angela: And really starting with like cutting things up, like, okay, let's prep everything. Let's do the mise en place. Let's get everything ready. Let's plan meals. So you're going to have leftovers. because it takes work and effort. You don't want to put all that effort in and then only eat once. So you want to have some leftover meals that you can repurpose throughout the week or free some of these meals that you're going to be able to then thaw out next week or next month when you're more time pressed, and you know, you've got your own freezer meal that you've prepared that you're going to be able to thaw out and cook and have a nutritious, delicious, quick meal, right? Angela: So it's just a, I think it's a mindset, right? [00:18:00] It's a different way to think. And, and everybody can get there and just build that knowledge and build those skills. And that's exciting. Michelle: It is exciting. I find that whenever you're learning something new, like you, you make it more complicated in your mind. You're like, oh, I have to do this whole thing. But you don't realize, like as you learn it, you could really strategize and make it so much easier and cheaper. You could save money that way. Judy: Absolutely. Michelle, you bring up a really good point. And what's really fun is a lot of the women who've taken classes or patients of ours, like even after like two years after they have their baby, I'll get an email. You know, I saved all those recipes from class and I still love the, you know, the quinoa mango black bean salad. Judy: It's so delicious in the summer. I take it to parties or one patient just wrote me about the soca bread made out of chickpeas that they start to add them to their repertoire or you want to increase their self efficacy, their confidence and their competency. And then when they do eat out, you know, maybe [00:19:00] they do broaden and they, you know, they go for an Indian meal or an Asian meal and they know like, Hey, I'm going to order one whole vegetarian. Judy: So I get more broccoli and veggies like they know how to order and feel good. When they go out or they travel, you know, how can I take that and keep it better? And, you know, just really, you know, giving them that support. And so in the book, for some people, this is really new. We kind of do like a six week blueprint, but we also say like, If you feel pretty good on some of the skills and you've checked the box, awesome. Judy: Work on some of those things that you, you want to build up stronger in your repertoire. And if you feel like you need more time, I remember when our class switched to virtual and we started to go to every other week, the women were like, this is kind of good because I have more time to work on my goals. Judy: I kind of like that other, remember the every other week model? You could do that with a six week plan. Maybe I'm going to try to do this over twelve weeks, you know, three months, give myself some time to To try new things.[00:20:00] And the thing is you're getting the benefit with every step you take. There's a benefit, you know? Judy: And so the cool thing for us is sometimes at the end of the class, women who didn't eat in the morning, they like. You know, we started eating in the morning because of class and the food was really good. They started regulating their cycles, Michelle. It was amazing. And one of our last live classes before COVID, I remember one table of four, they were all kind of waiting to get their cycles and things and getting ready for IVF. Judy: And they all went on to conceive. They all got their cycles and went on to conceive. And that was just, the cost of food and, you know, putting a little bit of time in so that lifestyle does make a difference whether someone's going for art treatment or they're, you know, they're, you know, they're just maximizing their fertility options. Michelle: Yeah, there was actually a study on girls in college that skipped breakfast and how it impacted their cycles I thought that was interesting[00:21:00] Judy: I would guess negatively. I'm thinking if Michelle: Negatively, yes negatively. Yeah. Yeah, Judy: You know, I just want to check. Michelle: They most of them started regular and it they became irregular. Judy: You know, and people are getting into a lot of fads where they're really time boxing their food. I just talked to someone in a smaller body and she says, I'm trying to eat clean. So I only eat between this time and this time. I go, Michelle: Mm hmm Judy: you should eat when you're hungry. Your body needs nourishment all day, not just eight hours. Judy: So sometimes we see people that are going to overboard. And they're restricting, and then their reproductive axis is not getting the nutrients it needs. And I'm like, that's not what you want to do for ag health. That's not what you want to do for reproductive health. If you feel cold at night and you're, and, and you know, and as we know with, you know, acupuncture and Chinese medicine, energy is such an important concept. Judy: So if you're freezing all of a sudden, and you're starving [00:22:00] yourself, you're not nourishing your body. Michelle: Absolutely. And actually in Ayurvedic medicine, they say that when the sun is out, that is when, because we, you know, we, we respond to the elements. And when the sun is out, especially like around 12 PM, you should have your largest meal because it increases your own digestive fire because we get influenced by nature. Michelle: And actually the morning you should have breakfast, you should have food during the day when the digestive fire is. Increase the most and when you shouldn't is as it gets darker like a couple hours before you go to sleep That's when you can give your body a break. So it kind of According to Ayurveda, it's a little bit more flipped than what's typically done where people skip breakfast. Angela: Right. And, and, you know, that, that exactly parallels some of the metabolic studies, right? So what Ayurvedic medicine is known for so long, right? And then Western medicine has to come and prove it that like our digestion is[00:23:00] better in the morning and the way glucose and, and. nutrients are processed in the morning is better when we have more energy and we're more active throughout the day. Angela: And then at night, things are winding down and slowing down and you want your body to relax for sleep and not be digesting a big meal. And, and we do talk about that, but it is really hard for people to flip to try and get more calories and earlier in the day when fewer at night when the typical pattern is, is the opposite. Michelle: and it's going to give them a lot more productivity and energy to have a good breakfast because you know, protein, you got those good fiber and vegetables and berries and, really start your day right. Judy: We encourage people if they're really set in a way, we're like, we'll do it as an experiment. Be curious. Try it on the weekend. Maybe try it on the weekend because you don't want to change your flow. See how your energy feels, especially when people are telling us they're fatigued. Judy: They're like, I'm so tired. And it's [00:24:00] like, and most of their energy intake is at night. They wake up not hungry. You know, we do try, you know, try to flip that around and that's part of that intuitive eating and eating competence and see where your body, because really people know a lot about their body and so we want them to be in tune to that too and trust that. Angela: And I was just going to add that, you know, sometimes people have these ideas of what a typical breakfast, lunch, and dinner is and what food should be part of those meals. And we say, Hey, that does not have to be the case either. I love a breakfast salad. I love eating my leftover dinner from the night before for breakfast. Angela: If I've made something delicious, I made this great stir fry and I've had a little bit because it's late, but I'm like, I want to have that for breakfast. I'm going to have a big bowl, you know, so I love having those other things early in the day because I do feel like it gives me great energy. And then the other thing that we talk about is, you know, the[00:25:00] walking after meals and especially getting outside early in the morning and getting that sunlight to really Start your day and, and get your clock going and how important those rhythms can be to recognize that you have, your body has a rhythm, sleep consistency is important, exercise and movement throughout the day is important, all these other things that we want to build in, you know, to our base for overall wellness to support fertility. Michelle: Yeah. I love it. I love it that you're a doctor and you're interested in this because unfortunately it's not as common. Like people don't know about all of these things about really connecting with nature and the nutrition aspect of it. So it's amazing. It's so well rounded because you have like so many different backgrounds and perspectives on Judy: We, we, we, yeah, we try to bring it all together and that's why this book would have been much longer if our publisher didn't say stop, you know, it was like twice as long. You'll see when you're writing your book, you want to share everything. And so we did include [00:26:00] two chapters on like boosters and disruptors, you know, talking about stress and sleep. Judy: And then also some of the disruptors like, you know, alcohol, cannabis, endocrine disruptors, because we didn't want to scare people, but we felt they needed to know. And you know, science based, evidence based, but we did put it at the end. You know, we really focus on the food and feeding yourself because really that's what our program is all about. Judy: But we find that when they put it all together and they get to those boosters and they add the movement and the stress and so many of our patients, patients who do acupuncture will say, well, that's one of the ways I always say, what do you get out of it? Cause I always want to know. And they go, Oh man, I'm such a good place to do. Judy: I leave in my stress level is so much better. I go, then that's something you want to include in, in, in what you're doing for your health. If you have the privilege and you have the accessibility to it. So we, we try to make everything accessible. Because there's so [00:27:00] many women and men who don't have access to medical care when it comes to fertility. Judy: It's really the underprivileged do not have access or such limited access that we thought if we could at least cover the main things and it could be, you know, available in libraries or, you know, things like that and audio books that that would be a way that more people could really have that information. Michelle: Well, it's great information. And also, I love that it talks about. combining foods, in Chinese medicine, we have a lot of formulas of herbs. So each herbal formula has different herbs and they work together as a symphony. And a lot of times they'll include ginger or digestive herbs to help assimilate. Michelle: So working together, And a certain symphony is what makes it that much more beneficial for the body. And I like how you talk about the importance of combining foods. You were talking about putting [00:28:00] vegetables because if you just eat meat without vegetables, it's not going to be able to simulate as well and digest as well without those vegetables helping in that fiber. Angela: Right. The vegetables are actually pretty protective, right? So I mean, there, you know, there have been studies that look at people who eat just more of an all meat diet and then people who eat more of a vegetable based diet, but with meat and the gut is healthier, right? If you incorporate those vegetables the, the, because the fiber from the vegetables is so protective. Angela: That then you are able to digest the, the meat and make use of the nutrients in the meat as well. So I think that's, that's great advice. And I think that, you know, out here we're in Seattle. And so we have a lot of, you know, we have a number of people who are trained in acupuncture. They are, you know, trained in traditional Chinese medicine. Angela: And we have always basically said, you know, gosh, I don't know that area, [00:29:00] but I trust. The practitioners in my area who knows so much this has been around for so long that let's, you know, combine and talk about the best of all worlds and support everybody's health. And then the same with fertility clinics, like some people really are going to need that extra step of a traditional IVF clinic. Angela: They might need insemination. They might need IVF. And then all these other things are going to be supportive and enhance their success because it's so expensive. And the last thing you want to have to do is multiple cycles. And so the more efficient you can make each cycle by bringing your best self forward into the process and taking the time, like a lot of people, you know, want to kind of take a lot of time to get to a fertility clinic. Angela: And then once they get there, they want IVF yesterday. Like they want to be pregnant yesterday. So And it's still really about the time and the investment in, [00:30:00] you know, producing optimum health for you and your partner. And so that, you know, it might take a good three months, right? Of preparation to say, let's make sure when you do IVF, if you need IVF and you're going to do it, that everything's perfect. Angela: As great as you can make it going into the cycle instead of just like, Oh, there's an opening next week. Let's get started. You know Michelle: I wish all reproductive endocrinologists spoke like you Angela: Oh, yeah. Thank Judy: she, and she, and she walks the walk, you know, for all the patients we've had together. A lot of times after that initial consult, she'd be like, okay, I want you to do, you know, food for fertility and work on nutrition and lifestyle for three months. You know, let's see, you know, what we can do with some of these biomarkers that are, that are elevated in a very positive way. Judy: And then quite often during that three months, a woman starts cycling. I always, I remember saying to Angela once years ago, I go, What if you put the [00:31:00] fertility clinics out of business? I mean, we were kidding, you know, when I said that they have the role. So please don't think I'm saying that, but you know, we did. Judy: And she's like, great. She was like, wonderful. Let's help people on the easiest journey. Let's not, you know, when someone gets sent to me and they've already had three failed IVFs. for whatever reason. And they're like, okay, I want to work on my nutrition. I'm so happy to work with them, but I feel really bad because they're pretty wounded because they've been pretty disappointed and let down. Judy: And sometimes it was something obvious that nobody ever brought up, you know, their eating disorder, their PCOS, that things could have been optimized first. So I think that's where we all work together. So I feel like that's why when you work in integrative planning, You know, practices. We, we work with, you know, fertility yoga instructors that we really trust and, and, and, and D's and dietitians and, and, you know, we know which clinics are going to be weight shaming, you know, we want to know [00:32:00] where can our patients put the best team together, where can they get support groups from resolve or other organizations so that they feel as fully supported as they go on this journey, because a lot of people, Never expected this. Judy: They just, I went through unexplained infertility for years. Never thought that was in the bags for me, but it was like. You know, you feel helpless. So having a community, and I think when we all work together interdisciplinary, you know, and we know the best people to send our patients to, or best organizations, or how to check, we really help them. Judy: We really, we really can help. So we're excited about you, you know, your future book. Yes. I mean, you know, I was just coming first, but yeah, looking for resources is so important, Michelle. Angela: And I, right. And I think, you know, those resources are great. And then also if somebody is seeing somebody and it's not clicking. You know, it could be it could be their doctor. It could be their [00:33:00] dietitian. It could be whatever They you don't have to stay with the same person. You can actually go get another opinion you might You know, click better and work better with someone else who Has different information even it's not all the same. Angela: So each of us don't necessarily provide the same information or You know, it's an art and a science and I think we all feel that that we connect with people It's so important, but we all connect differently And and as an individual each person should really You Make the most of that and, and really make that work for them. Angela: They're the ones they're invested in it. Michelle: That is so true. Absolutely true. I've seen people who have been going for years to one reproductive endocrinologist and then when they changed different approach, different energy, just like, and it was a different outcome, Angela: Yep. Michelle: you know, it happens.  Judy: And if you make a change, [00:34:00] no one's mad at you. We all want the same end result. I always tell them all the clinics in this town, they're all friends. They all know each other, you know, professionally, they all know each other. They're going to send your charts. Judy: They're not going to hold them back. You know, everybody does want a positive outcome, you know, to take place. Michelle: Yeah. Yeah. That's great. I mean you know, not always the case, , but when it is, it's amazing, and it's true you really do have to find that alignment and I always say, you know, it takes a village and creating a team of different people that can support you in different ways. Michelle: When going through this, but of course nutrition is so important in Chinese Judy: We all eat. Michelle: Yeah, we all eat and we eat for a reason a good reason, right? Angela: Mm hmm. Michelle: And the spleen and stomach are actually the center and they're like the mother in a sense, you know the nurturer Aspect of our bodies and that is really where everything else gets built they [00:35:00] talk about pre heaven chi pre heaven energy in the kidneys And of course the kidneys are really important But sustenance, the energy with which we can sustain and increase after our genetics is food, Angela: Right. And I think, you know, that's just kind of being understood. I mean, I think in science, Yeah. We now are recognizing, you know, there's genetics, and then there's epigenetics, which is how the genes are expressed and the epigenetics is how we influence which genes are expressed. And that has to do with our nutrition, our stress. Angela: Our sleep, our movement, our community, our mental disposition, our mental health, our optimism. All these things have a huge impact in our health by the epigenetics. And I think people sometimes think it's just genetics and things are. A predetermined and it's going to be one way and it's totally [00:36:00] not. You have so much influence as a, as an individual about what path your life can take and how your health is affected by these decisions you make every day. Michelle: which is so empowering, I think, to know that you actually can have a hand in your Angela: Mm hmm.  Judy: , I was just thinking we almost wanted to add a whole another chapter on epigenetics, but we had to pull it back. So we just kind of sprinkled it in, you know, the lifestyle things. But even when we work with people who are using donor eggs, their health will have an impact on these epigenetics. So that really empowering that mom, you are the full mom, you know, even with a donor egg, what you eat, your life, your health. Judy: Is going to have an impact on your baby. And I think that really helps people to know that Michelle: That is such a good point. It's really true because it's, it's all important. It's all parts of the [00:37:00] whole.  That's where you do have control right over your lifestyle. And these some of these decisions because you don't always have control over your fertility. I mean, certain aspects are just out of your control, and you do feel that helplessness. Angela: And so I think where you can feel good and feel empowered is, you know, these are the actions I can take. These are the steps I can take. I am making progress. I am growing as a person. I'm helping myself. I'm helping my community. Whatever the case may be, I try to recommend not kind of losing yourself in just trying to get pregnant. Angela: Really recognize your, yourself as a whole person and all the things you are providing to, to your community through purpose and service and love and, and everything you're doing is just, it's key to who you are and it brings you strength and peace. And that's just really [00:38:00] Great to know and you, those are decisions you can make. Angela: That's not something out of your control. Michelle: That's so important. And thank you for bringing that up and you guys, I could talk to you guys for hours cause you know what, you know what I love? Well, first of all, your knowledge, you guys are very knowledgeable about what you're talking about, but the passion , and the compassion. With which you are operating  Michelle: I think we both have one major thing in common is that we love this community and it's a beautiful community to serve. And so for people who want to find you or read your book, how can they find you? Judy: Well, the book is available at all major books, booksellers and many of the independent ones request it getting to baby book.com. It will be released April 9th. So I'm not sure when this is released, but April 9th will be released. It can be pre-ordered. You can follow me at Fertile Nutrition or on my website, mindbody nutrition.com [00:39:00] and Angela. Angela: And you can also request the book from your library. So libraries don't automatically stock books, but if individuals make a request to a library, the library can order the book. So that's something to know as well. And then I'm at AngelaThiremd. com or at AngelaThiremd on Instagram. Michelle: Awesome. It was such a pleasure meeting the two of you. You guys are so nice and so knowledgeable and just really lovely to talk to. So thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. Angela: Thank you, Michelle. Judy: Michelle. Thanks, Michelle. Angela: to you as well. 

My first guest for this special podcast series Rising Resilient is Dr. Carmen Morrison.  Specialization: Parenting, Brain Health, Relationships, Mind-Body Nutrition, she has a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology, an M.A. in Theology and M.A. in Education, and is a Certified Integrative Mental Health Practitioner. Carmen has been licensed as a psychologist for almost two decades and also set up an online dimension under the umbrella brand of Alli.health to reach more people who are ‘stuck' and looking for the Ultimate Brain Reset – the so-called magic wand.  In this interview, when you hear how she speaks about resilience and the neuroscience underneath it, bear in mind, she and her husband also run a significant non-profit operation working in developing countries afflicted by trauma. Her work is far-reaching, and highly impactful.  Getting to know both Carmen and Bob as their business coach, I often wonder how they sustain such in-depth and demanding work. So I was very keen to get her on the show to talk about it with you.  What I love about her mission – is that she LOVES coaching – maybe less so all the marketing and sales part of growing the business, but as her husband Bob often remarks in our business development sessions, Carmen comes alive and does her best work when she gets to come alongside you and help you discover ways to get unstuck. And that, for her, is one of the most thrilling things that empowers her. On their website alli.health – where you can find out more about the work - she explains this brilliantly:  I love to take things that seem really complex and break them down into small pieces. I'm a certified brain health professional in addition to being a licensed psychologist.  At Alli, I want to help people who don't really need therapy, but just need help knowing how to take the next step. In her Rising Resilient interview here, you'll want to listen in to her insights on coping and empowerment. She talks about resilience and how to work with your brain's hard-wiring in some very practical and profoundly helpful ways. As a non-profit and health care therapist, and as an entrepreneur, Carmen has made significant strides in her business, through resources, courses, and coaching, especially in creating user-friendly digital interfaces to complement and extend her clinic work. Her resilience is evident in her ability to navigate the highly competitive health industry while juggling the demands of a high potential non-profit in third-world countries. For more information, go to http://alli.health or find links on the episode show notes page at https://jayallyson.com/podcast/carmen-morrison-resilience-brain-reset/.

Elise Museles is a certified eating psychology and nutrition expert, creator of the Food Story Method and platform, and host of the popular podcast Once Upon a Food Story. As an author, speaker, and mind-body eating coach, Elise's mission is to empower people to create a healthier relationship with food and their bodies by changing what's on their plate—and what's in their minds. For more, visit elisemuseles.com or check out her new book Food Story: Rewrite the Way You Eat, Think, and Live. Join me and Elise as we explore how the stories you tell yourself about might be leftovers from bad parental advice, past trauma or the constant influence of social media. Should you listen to everything that is out there or is all this dietary information causing you more stress than necessary? How to get down to the basics and embrace a more simple relationship with what is on your plate? Tune in to find out! In this episode:

First, we'd like to apologize for the joke that starts this episode. This is what happens when good vegetables go bad…. ;) In this delicious snack, Ruby and Anne are chatting with Judy Simon and Angela Thyer about their new book, Getting to Baby: A Food-First Fertility Plan to Improve Your Odds and Shorten Your Time to Pregnancy. If you are considering starting or building your family, it's great for everyone involved to get in their best possible health, whether you'll be carrying the child or not! And this plan can help everyone attain optimal health. Get your answers to: What is a “food-first approach” to fertility, and does it actually help? How do nutrition and lifestyle affect fertility? Is nutrition a one-size-fits-all? (spoiler alert: no.) Should I focus more on plants? (spoiler alert: probably) Are you all about weight loss? (nope) And so much more.  One thing we love about this plan is that it focuses on making progress, not on being perfect. And there's no shame here: nutrition can be challenging, especially when life is busy. But the great thing is even small improvements can yield great, noticeable benefits.  Cooking and eating well don't have to be stressful, and that's what this book is all about. Let Angela, Judy, and your own body guide you to explore new foods and reach your health goals! As always, we hope you'll share this episode with anyone who could benefit! More about our guests: Angela Thyer, MD, is a reproductive endocrinologist and infertility specialist and one of the founding partners at Seattle Reproductive Medicine. She is triple-board-certified in reproductive endocrinology, infertility, obstetrics, and gynecology, and lifestyle medicine, and her special interests include polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), nutrition and fertility, lifestyle medicine, and reproductive aging.  Judy Simon, RDN, is a registered dietitian nutritionist who specializes in reproductive health. She is the founder of Mind Body Nutrition, LLC, clinical instructor, and staff dietitian at the University of Washington. Judy has held leadership roles in the American Society of Reproductive Medicine Nutritional Special Interest Group, and is a Fellow of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. Resources: Book website: gettingtobabybook.com Judy's website: mind-body-nutrition.com  Instagram: @fertilenutrition Order on Amazon Judy's previous full episode: Disordered Eating & Fertility  Snack: Health & Fertility at Every Size  Find more from Anne and Ruby at thewholepineapple.com.   

Marc David, M.A., is the Founder and Primary Teacher of the Institute for the Psychology of Eating. He is the leading visionary behind the fascinating field of Eating Psychology, and the author of the bestselling books, Nourishing Wisdom and The Slow Down Diet, which have been translated into more than a dozen languages. Marc holds a range of qualifications, including an M.A. of Psychology and a B.S. of Biology, and has participated in several Clinical Mind-Body Medicine Programs, all of which have shaped his groundbreaking approach to food, body, and nutrition.  For more than 40 years, Marc has been an innovator in Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition, championing an uplifting, inclusive approach to food and body, and a warm, engaging speaking style that continues to attract listeners from around the world. In September 2007, Marc founded the Institute to channel his passionate mission of sharing an uplifting, results-driven approach to today's most important eating challenges. Today, IPE remains the only Institute in the world devoted to teaching the principles of Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition and attracts students from more than 60 countries each year.  The Institute's many thousands of graduates have used their world-class education in these revolutionary disciplines to transform the lives of countless people around the globe struggling with food and body challenges. In this episode: Discussion of Food and Body Marc David's Journey to Understanding Eating Psychology The mission of the Institute for the Psychology of Eating and the key principles of Eating Psychology Exploring Strategies to Manage Emotional Eating Learning how to have a healthy relationship with food Identifying the Solution to Sugar Addiction Exploring the Benefits of Taking a Break from Certain Foods Exploring the Archetypes of Eating Habits A Discussion on Nutrition Confusion Nutrition Change and Uncertainty Exploring the Expectations We Place on Food Relearning How to Be an Eater Examining the Relationship with Scale Use Marc David shares advice on forgiving oneself and finding resources on the psychology of eating   Follow Marc David: Website: https://psychologyofeating.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/IPEfanpage Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eatingpsychology/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/MarcDavidIPE iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-psychology-of-eating-podcast/id987724897 Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Marc-David/author/B001I9RQJ0?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true   ANNOUNCEMENT: Molly, Vera and I are so excited to share our upcoming Sweet Sobriety Special Speaker and Workshop Extravaganza with you. This 4 day Food Addiction Conference is going to be a Recovery Retreat you just can't beat as Sweet Sobriety takes over Toronto.    Friday Special Sweet Sobriety Soiree  THIS will be an exclusive event for our Sweet Sobriety Group Coaching Members to hang out with your food junkies team at a welcome event which will run from 5:30 - 8:30pm.    Sensational Saturday Residence and Conference Centre – Downtown Toronto (80 Cooperage Street) Sandra Elia: Aligning Your Sails to Recovery: Thinking >Actions>Words Sophie Rolland: Insulin Resistance in the Brain: How it Affects Our Eating Behaviours Dr. Èvelyne Roy: How to Level Up Your Metabolic Health in Food Addiction Recovery Dr. Vera Ingrid Tarman: Am I Abstinent Enough? Besides Sugar, let's explore Alcohol & Cannabis. Closing Speaker Panel – Bethany is going to ask our panel some questions that will let you know us better and WE will answer your questions to help guide you on your journey!   Super Speaker Sunday - Workshops (Venue for S/M/T will be 519 Community Centre Ballroom) Pamela Mekuz: Getting into the Readiness Mindset  Jennifer Lindo Kranc: Turning Information into Transformation – Neuroplasticity Rachel Murray: Craving Control: Navigating the Complex Relationship Between Women's Hormones and Sugar Viktoria Hamma: Group Hypnotherapy Session for Recovery Mindset   Maintenance Monday 10am Group Coaching 11am WORKSHOP – Genogram Exercise (Cynthia Myers Morrison) 12:30pm Lunch on your own 2:00pm Group Activity – Art Therapy with Deb Reynolds 3:00pm Enneagram Workshop (Bethany) 4:15pm Somatic Experiencing (Clarissa) 5pm Closure for Day   Treatment Tuesday 10am Group Coaching 11am WORKSHOP Andrea A 12:00pm Break Stuff 1:00pm Lunch on your own 2:30pm WORKSHOP Courage, Commitment, and Change (Clarissa, Molly, & Bethany) 4:00pm Ask US Anything – Get to know your hosts (Bethany, Clarissa, Molly) 5:00 pm Closing Ceremony/Goodbyes   Where: TORONTO, CANADA! When: October 21 – 24, 2023 Costs: $150 USD for Individual Event Days and $499 USD for the Entire Recovery Retreat    https://www.sweetsobriety.ca/courses/sweet-sobriety-meet-up   The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern.

Join Joyce & Margaret Schwenke, Nutrition & Eating Psychology Counselor, for a casual conversation perfect for a walk. In this impactful conversation, Joyce and Margaret discuss ways we all can feel more empowered around our choices to change our health and happiness. From learning about authentic nourishment, to three simple steps to designing the life you really want, this podcast will inspire you to slow down and really connect with yourself.About MargaretMargaret Schwenke is a Certified Eating Psychology Counselor and Certified Holistic Health Coach with education in Culinary Arts, Mind Body Nutrition, Dynamic Eating Psychology and Science of Willpower. My own struggles with health and wellness created a desire in me to help people look deeper at life's challenges, to find the why and then the how, and then to overcome. I am deeply committed to helping women discover what uniquely nourishes all aspects of their life. It is through this self discovery that thriving health can be created. My desire is to guide and support my clients on a conscious path back to their individual most authentic version of themselves so they can experience vibrant health.Connect with MargaretWebsite: https://margaretschwenke.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MargaretSchwenkeAuthenticNourishmentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/authenticnourishment

Today I have a special guest with me. Marc David is going to talk to us about the psychology of eating and cultivating a healthy relationship with food. Early in his career as a nutritionist, he found that just changing the diet wasn't addressing the real problems.Unfortunately, there was very little information about the psychology of eating back then. So, he wrote the book he wished he had, created the course he wished he could have taken, and now has students all over the world.In our talk today, we'll unravel emotional eating, why it happens, and what to do if it becomes a problem. We'll touch on:Eating to self-sootheUndigested experiencesMixed messages around pleasureGenerational stories around foodLove and connection and using food as a replacementMarc David, M.A., is the bestselling author of the books, Nourishing Wisdom: A Mind Body Approach to Nutrition and Well-Being and The Slow Down Diet: Eating for Pleasure, Energy, and Weight Loss, a frequent speaker and consultant, and host of the celebrated Psychology of Eating Podcast. Marc is also the Founder of The Institute for the Psychology of Eating, the world's only health coaching program devoted to teaching the principles of Dynamic Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition. With students in well over 100 countries, the Institute champions an uplifting, inclusive approach to food and body that honors each individual's unique physiology and psychology, and that sees eating challenges as a doorway to personal growth and self-actualization.Where you can find Marc:Instagram: @eatingpsychologyWeb: https://psychologyofeating.com/The Psychology of Eating Podcast: https://psychologyofeating.com/podcast/Discover your most influential Eating Archetype>>> Get the FREE 8 Eating Archetypes Self-discovery tool HERE.Learn more about Mind Body Eating Coach Certification Training by Marc David>>> Click HERE to download the free info packet.Interested in working with Jeannie one on one? Schedule a 30-minute Coffee Talk here.Connect with me on Instagram @joliverwellness and check out the options for my more affordable self-study programs here: https://www.joliverwellness.com/diy-programsMusic credit: Funk'd Up by Reaktor ProductionsA Podcast Launch Bestie production

This episode is brought to you by Rupa Health, Cozy Earth, Paleovalley, and Mitopure.Many of us turn to food to cope with feelings, then we beat ourselves up. Personally, I'm guilty of turning to food when I'm exhausted and then feeling bad about not making great choices or eating when I wasn't truly hungry. But what we don't realize is that emotional eating is natural and inborn, and it's not a matter of having too little willpower. The healing process means getting unstuck from negative patterns, reframing our inner dialogue, and acknowledging the different parts of us and what they're each asking for. Feeling guilty and disempowered isn't doing us any good. Today I'm excited to sit down with a leading expert in the field of emotional eating and a good friend, Marc David. Marc David, M.A., is the bestselling author of the books, Nourishing Wisdom: A Mind Body Approach to Nutrition and Well-Being and The Slow Down Diet: Eating for Pleasure, Energy, and Weight Loss, a frequent speaker and consultant, and host of the celebrated Psychology of Eating Podcast. Marc is also the Founder of The Institute for the Psychology of Eating, the world's only health coaching program devoted to teaching the principles of Dynamic Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition. This episode is brought to you by Rupa Health, Cozy Earth, Paleovalley, and Mitopure.Rupa Health is a place where Functional Medicine practitioners can access more than 2,000 specialty lab tests from over 20 labs like DUTCH, Vibrant America, Genova, and Great Plains. You can check out a free, live demo with a Q&A or create an account at RupaHealth.com.Right now, get 40% off your Cozy Earth sheets. Just head over to cozyearth.com and use code MARK40.Paleovalley is offering my listeners 15% off their entire first order. Just go to paleovalley.com/hyman to check out all their clean Paleo products and take advantage of this deal.Get 10% off Mitopure at timelinenutrition.com/drhyman and use code DRHYMAN10 at checkout.Here are more details from our interview (audio version / Apple Subscriber version):Is emotional eating the same thing as having an eating disorder? (5:45 / 3:12)The three biggest myths about emotional eating (6:34 / 4:00) Breaking the pattern of emotional eating (9:39 / 7:00) Emotional eating and the rebel and child archetypes (19:05 / 16:25) The relationship between the biology of food and psychology of eating (25:46 / 20:46)Learning how to eat vs. how not to eat (32:55 / 24:50) The relationship between trauma and emotional eating (34:34 / 29:50) Reframing beliefs around food and eating (42:09 / 35:10) The importance of practicing self-compassion (45:51 / 40:50) The Emotional Eating Breakthrough Program (58:07 / 53:05) Learn more about The Emotional Eating Breakthrough Program. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Medical Matters Weekly | Season 2 | Episode 38 | Sept. 21, 2022Marc David, MA, is the bestselling author of the books, Nourishing Wisdom: A Mind Body Approach to Nutrition and Well-Being and The Slow Down Diet: Eating for Pleasure, Energy, and Weight Loss, a frequent speaker and consultant, and host of the celebrated Psychology of Eating Podcast. David is also the Founder of The Institute for the Psychology of Eating, the world's only health coaching program devoted to teaching the principles of Dynamic Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition. With students in well over 100 countries, the Institute champions an uplifting, inclusive approach to food and body that honors each individual's unique physiology and psychology and that sees eating challenges as a doorway to personal growth and self-actualization.

It was an honour to have Marc David on the podcast and his knowledge and wisdom in this conversation will show you why. For over four decades, Marc has been an innovator in Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition. His humorous, engaging, warm-hearted, and informative speaking style has made him a popular and well-loved presenter, and his uplifting and inclusive approach appeals to a wide audience of eaters who are looking for fresh, positive, and inspiring messages about food and body. The questions I asked Marc How did you get involved in the field of Eating Psychology? What are some of the key principles of Eating Psychology? In your opinion, what's the difference between binge eating and emotional eating? How does Eating Psychology look at Emotional Eating? How does Eating Psychology look at Binge Eating? You talk about toxic dietary beliefs – what are they? Can you say a few words about the other field you developed – Mind Body Nutrition You talk about women stepping into their Queenhood – can you explain what that means? Connect with Marc Website - https://psychologyofeating.com/ Instagram – Marc David: https://www.instagram.com/marcdavid_ipe/ Instagram The Psychology Of Eating: https://www.instagram.com/eatingpsychology/ Connect with me IG: https://www.instagram.com/victoriakleinsmanofficial/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/victoriakleinsman Website: https://victoriakleinsman.com/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/victoria-kleinsman/message

Are you someone who struggles with binging? Do you struggle with your relationship with food? On this episode, Ali sits down with food psychologist Marc David to better understand how we can have a healthier relationship with food, as well as what drives us to binge eat, & what we can do to replace this behavior. Bio: Marc David, M.A., is the bestselling author of the books, Nourishing Wisdom: A Mind Body Approach to Nutrition and Well-Being and The Slow Down Diet: Eating for Pleasure, Energy, and Weight Loss, a frequent speaker and consultant, and host of the celebrated Psychology of Eating Podcast. Marc is also the Founder of The Institute for the Psychology of Eating, the world's only health coaching program devoted to teaching the principles of Dynamic Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition. With students in well over 100 countries, the Institute champions an uplifting, inclusive approach to food and body that honors each individual's unique physiology and psychology, and that sees eating challenges as a doorway to personal growth and self-actualization.~For more information on the “Invest Your Best” online coaching AVAILABLE NOW visit:https://www.investyourbestwithalikay.com/~~Website: https://www.investyourbestwithalikay.com/Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/alexandrawille/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexandrawilleJustifiably Proud ProductionsJustifiably Proud Productions is a podcast that recognizes life, leadership, and...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify

This episode features Jamie Weisberg: a 27 years old badass, who grew up in a middle-class family in Canada and has a remarkable sense of humor, but most of all - she is a fierce body positivity maven and an eating disorder activist.  In this conversation, we dig deeper into Jamie's recovery journey from bulimia and the many challenges that came with it.

We all have different shapes and sizes. And there's growing awareness that we can enhance health and well-being in every body. On this week's short snack episode, we welcome back Judy Simon to talk about how we can engage in gentle nutrition and joyful movement instead of restrictive dieting. And she talks about the imperative that medical professionals practice respectful patient-centered care and weight inclusivity. Along the way, she debunks commonly held – and antiquated – beliefs about fatness and fertility. About Judy: Judy Simon practices as an RDN, certified health education specialist, and adjunct faculty at the University of Washington. She also owns a private practice, Mind Body Nutrition, PLLC, specializing in reproductive nutrition and eating disorders. Contact Judy at her email, judy@mind-body-nutrition.com; on Instagram @fertilenutrition; on Twitter @JSimonRD; on her website, www.mind-body-nutrition.com, or find her on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/judy-simon-9178267/.  Resources mentioned in this episode: EATING DISORDERS www.nationaleatingdisorders.org www.anad.org http://www.diabulimiahelpline.org/resources.html https://www.eatingrecoverycenter.com/recovery-centers/denver https://www.emilyprogram.com/ HAES ® (Health at Every Size) https://asdah.org/health-at-every-size-haes-approach/ https://haeshealthsheets.com/the-health-sheet-library/ https://www.intuitiveeating.org https://benourished.org/about-body-trust/ BOOKS: Body Kindness: Transform Your Health from the Inside Out — and Never Say Diet Again by Rebecca Scritchfield Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28110894-body-kindness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=e8FG1gCPQV&rank=1 Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/a/79534/9780761187295 The Body is Not an Apology: The Power of Radical Self-Love by Sonya Renee Taylor Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34956885-the-body-is-not-an-apology?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=DMkNIvKwDN&rank=1 Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/a/79534/9781523090990  Intuitive Eating 4th Edition Evelyn Tribole & Elyse Resch  Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51291382-intuitive-eating?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=GaaCwOqSNk&rank=1 Bookshop:  https://bookshop.org/a/79534/9781250255198  

If you've had fertility treatment, chances are you filled out some sort of intake form that asked questions about the foods you eat, how much you sleep, medications you take, and so on. Did any of those forms ask about eating disorders?  Turns out, asking about eating disorders is really important - always - but especially when it comes to fertility. Nutrition and overall health are certainly reasons to ask about eating habits, but there are also questions of control, body dysmorphia, fear of weight gain, and even an over-emphasis on healthy eating that can lead to disordered eating.  Judy Simon practices as an RDN, certified health education specialist, and adjunct faculty at the University of Washington. She also owns a private practice, Mind Body Nutrition, PLLC, specializing in reproductive nutrition and eating disorders. Judy co-developed the successful Food for Fertility Program with Dr. Angela Thyer and is recognized as a Fellow of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics and as a national leader in the area of fertility and nutrition. Judy offers her patients the unique experience of a non-dieting, intuitive approach to healthy eating. Please have a listen and pass this podcast along to anyone you think could benefit. Contact Judy at her email, judy@mind-body-nutrition.com; on Instagram @fertilenutrition; on Twitter @JSimonRD; on her website, www.mind-body-nutrition.com or find her on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/judy-simon-9178267/.  Resources mentioned in this episode: EATING DISORDERS www.nationaleatingdisorders.org www.anad.org http://www.diabulimiahelpline.org/resources.html https://www.eatingrecoverycenter.com/recovery-centers/denver https://www.emilyprogram.com/ HAES ® (Health at Every Size) https://asdah.org/health-at-every-size-haes-approach/ https://haeshealthsheets.com/the-health-sheet-library/ https://www.intuitiveeating.org https://benourished.org/about-body-trust/ BOOKS: Body Kindness: Transform Your Health from the Inside Out — and Never Say Diet Again by Rebecca Scritchfield Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28110894-body-kindness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=e8FG1gCPQV&rank=1 Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/a/79534/9780761187295 The Body is Not an Apology: The Power of Radical Self-Love by Sonya Renee Taylor Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34956885-the-body-is-not-an-apology?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=DMkNIvKwDN&rank=1 Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/a/79534/9781523090990  Intuitive Eating 4th Edition Evelyn Tribole & Elyse Resch  Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51291382-intuitive-eating?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=GaaCwOqSNk&rank=1 Bookshop:  https://bookshop.org/a/79534/9781250255198  

Many people struggle with food without realizing they have toxic nutritional beliefs. Marc David Katz explains why food is not your enemy and how the power of being present can change your relationship with food.     In this episode, Cathy and Marc David discuss:  What eating psychology is and some of its core principles Examples of toxic nutritional beliefs and their impact  How Marc David helps clients with emotional eating, binge eating and overeating   Why most diets and weight loss approaches don't work  How slow eating is a key practice in transforming your relationship with food         Memorable Quotes: “Most people believe that if I'm binge eating, something's wrong with me from overeating.If I'm emotionally eating, I've got a problem. And I've got to fix it. Really what's happening is that those eating challenges are trying to teach us something.”   “You show me a person that's not getting enough nutrition, that's not getting enough nutrient density in their diet because they're under feeding themselves. I'll show you a person is going to be overeating pretty soon.”  “It's a powerful habit to change if one is a fast eater—to become a slow, relaxed present eater.”    Marc David, M.A., is the Founder and Primary Teacher of the Institute for the Psychology of Eating. He is the leading visionary behind the fascinating field of Eating Psychology, and the author of the bestselling books, Nourishing Wisdom and The Slow Down Diet, which have been translated into more than a dozen languages. Marc holds a range of qualifications, including an M.A. of Psychology and a B.S. of Biology, and has participated in several Clinical Mind-Body Medicine Programs, all of which have shaped his groundbreaking approach to food, body, and nutrition. For more than 40 years, Marc has been an innovator in Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition, championing an uplifting, inclusive approach to food and body, and a warm, engaging speaking style that continues to attract listeners from around the world. Among other positions, Marc has been a senior consultant at Johnson & Johnson; a master nutrition consultant and lecturer at Canyon Ranch Resorts; Chairman of the Board of Directors at the Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health; and senior consultant at The Disney Company. His corporate clients have included Kraft Foods, Pepsi, Coke, General Nutrition Centers (GNC), Richardson-Vicks, The International Olive Oil Council, and many others. Marc also served as the submissions editor for the peer-reviewed Journal of Alternative Therapies in Health and Medicine. In September 2007, Marc founded the Institute to channel his passionate mission of sharing an uplifting, results-driven approach to today's most important eating challenges. Today, IPE remains the only Institute in the world devoted to teaching the principles of Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition and attracts students from more than 60 countries each year. The Institute's many thousands of graduates have used their world-class education in these revolutionary disciplines to transform the lives of countless people around the globe struggling with food and body challenges. Marc's work has been featured in a wide range of media outlets, including CNN, NBC, The New York Times, The Chicago-Sun Times, Glamour, Elle, Yoga Journal, Bon Appetit, Eating Well, and WebMD. His extensive background in clinical nutrition and eating psychology has made him a sought-after international speaker and mentor to many luminaries in the fields of nutrition and natural medicine. His past speaking engagements include Harvard University, The Institute for Functional Medicine, The Institute for Integrative Nutrition, the New York Open Center, and The National Institute for the Clinical Application of Behavioral Medicine.   Mentioned In This Episode: https://lp.psychologyofeating.com/eating-psychology-video-series/   Links to resources: Health Coach Group Website https://www.thehealthcoachgroup.com/

Rita is all about helping us getting rid of chemicals in your home!In this episode we cover:What is the first step that we should do?What are 3 things that I want to transition too?Body Love - through quality nutritionFibromyalgia Client - Testimonial Guide - That She Has Created to Help Us get rid of Chemicals!Toxins create inflammation! Rita Haddad is passionate about teaching people that getting healthy does not have to be hard or too overwhelming. In her signature Clean Living Transitions program, she helps clients begin their transition to cleaner, greener, and eco-friendly products. Rita's passion for good health began to bud and bloom when she was just a little girl. She was naturally drawn to, and retained, all things health, well-being, nutrition, and human behavior (why we make the choices we do). She has helped hundreds of clients reach new levels of health physically, emotionally, physiologically, and Spiritually in her work as an Art Psychotherapist and Certified Coach. With certifications in Life Coaching and Dynamic Eating Psychology & Mind-Body Nutrition, Rita's qualifications give her clients the perfect balance of sound-board, gentle guidance, and compassionate change. In her work, Rita incorporates the Clean Living Transition as part of the work to reduce toxic overload, bring down and flush out inflammation in the body, heal from pain, imbalances, disease, and poor immunity. Coupled with principals in Dynamic Eating Psychology & Mind-Body Nutrition, you can expect a whole-person transformation when you work with Rita.To learn more, visit SublimationCoaching.com Her Top 10 Favorite Toxin-Free Products: https://bit.ly/3mGfevVAmanda Elise LoveHave a conversation with me about your 2021 health goals -http://bit.ly/2ko8lSpInstagram - https://bit.ly/3fhjmfJFacebook personal page- https://bit.ly/2Wlwc4aFacebook business page- https://www.facebook.com/amandaeliseloveWebsite - http://www.amandaeliselove.comGot a question? Or maybe a guest suggestion? Email me at amandaeliselove@gmail.com

The Psychology of Cleansing and Detoxing   https://psychologyofeating.online/ss/ Are you ready to transform your relationship with food in a lasting and meaningful way? What if you could help others find the path to greater freedom and joy with food as well?   The process of fasting or undergoing a detox or cleanse has many benefits for the body. But did you know that one’s mindset going into a cleanse is as important as the cleanse itself? Join Marc David, an innovator in Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition, to learn more about the positive benefits of cleansing, and how to cultivate the mindset necessary for a great experience.  If you would like to get the best out of your cleanse or detox, be sure to listen in as Marc explains the psychology behind cleansing.   Key Insights:   When undergoing a detox or cleanse, your mindset will undoubtedly impact the outcome. Understanding the psychological components of cleansing is key to achieving great results.    Ancient cultures have long understood the importance of fasting and cleansing the body of toxins. These were practices that were seen to optimize the body and all its functions -- an intelligent nutritional defense for the body.   Today human beings are bombarded with all sorts of pollutants from the air, water and earth around us. The body has to combat tens of thousands of artificial chemicals every year. This is why a cleanse or detox can be so important.    The process of fasting or undergoing a detox has value beyond just the physical. It can help to eliminate poisons stored in the body and bring about emotional detox as well.   The healing, repair and maintenance of body tissue happens when there is a physiologic relaxation response from the body. So it is important to let go and slow down, and to check in with the body before going in for a cleanse or detox.   With his dual training in clinical nutrition and psychology, Marc David has spent the last 40 years helping people around the world heal their relationship with food. As the founder of the Institute for the Psychology of Eating, he reaches millions each year through his books, speaking engagements, celebrated podcast series, and his internationally-acclaimed Mind Body Eating Coach Certification Training.    Having your own challenges with food and body? Post your questions in the comment box below or get in touch with us directly at info@psychologyofeating.com   And for more information about The Institute for the Psychology of Eating, please visit us at www.psychologyofeating.com.   #psychologyofeating #detoxyourself #fastingforhealth #emotionaldetox #nutrition #intelligentnutrition #optimizethebody #successfulcleanse #bodycleanse #personalvisionquest #metabolism #metabolicenergy #stressresponse #newbeginnings #powerfulcleanse #fastingbenefits

How important is taking care of your gut health when it comes to your own mental health? Is food combining actually good for you? Is dairy really the devil? What is a breathing exercise I can do when I get stressed out? Listen to this episode with Gut-Health Nutritionist Molly Pelletier to find out the answers to all of those questions and more! Follow her on Instagram @zucchini.who !

Tune into Zayne and Tyler's discussion on Alkaline lifestyle, misconceptions, herbs, holistic vs western and more. Tyler is an integrative nutritionist and nutrition coach. She uses food as medicine to help individuals reach their health goals, whether its weight loss, diabetes, high blood pressure or simply needing to regain balance in your life. She use the tools and knowledge she has gained as she developed her Masters degree in Nutrition and Human Performance. “Changing the world, one plant at a time.” Tap into her and her brand at www.mindbodynutri.com IG: @mind_body_nutri YouTube: mind body nutriti Do not be afraid to reach out for a professional's advice! Get my misfitsmarket.com box discount with code COOKWME-HJ6PDR for fresh produce delivered to your door! Follow our IG at @souldriveglobal souldriveglobal.com facebook.com/souldriveglobal Join our new free text service for weekly card pulls, affirmations and more by texting "podcast" to 630-228-9846 and click the link for me to reply! See you next time ☺️ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/livinginspirit/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/livinginspirit/support

Welcome to Low Carb Conversations with Leah Williamson, Holly Jean Barrett and Amber Horn, Functional Nutritional Therapy Practitioners. In this special event podcast, Holly Jean shares a masterclass about exploring the nutritional journey and discovering mindfulness and the mind-body-nutrition connection in during periods of stress.⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Food and eating and dieting don’t need to be an additional stress in our lives. Perhaps you are someone who has fallen into an eating pattern that you know is not serving your body, or your goals towards your best health; or perhaps you have noticed new habits developing that are contributing to some unwanted side effects…⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ In this episode we cover:⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ • How to be attentive and mindful about how you communicate with yourself in regards to food. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ • What our relationship with food, eating issues, weight challenges, and health concerns teach us about ourselves. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ • Embracing the pleasure principle of eating food that makes us feel good.⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ • How stress, anxiety, fear, and negative self -talk can deplete metabolism, disrupt appetite, impact weight, and impair physiologic healing activities that express as body symptoms. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ • Ways to let go of nutritional confusion and stop obsessing over what you eat. ⠀⠀⠀ • Simple, powerful ways to improve your health right now – no equipment, supplements, or dietary changes needed. ⠀ Exciting news! Leah is a featured speaker at the upcoming 2021 AIP Summit. Leah will be discussing ways to minimize stressors in your life, whether they are food, environment, emotional etc in order to help optimize your health. Stress can be the underlying reason why you not at your optimal health and Leah provides practical advice to help you detect stressors and minimize them. Leah’s talk and the other sessions will all be available for you to watch for free, thanks to the support of our generous business sponsors, including brands we love like Shop AIP and Paleo Valley. Sign up for the Summit Now Ways you can help support the Podcast! We are truly appreciative of any support you can give to the podcast! Here are some ways you can help us reach more people each week: SUBSCRIBE to the podcast (if you don’t already) so it automatically downloads for you each week and you never miss an episode. REVIEW – Leave a review on Apple Podcasts – it does not take very long to do and this really helps get the podcast seen by others. RECOMMEND the podcast to your friends and family – recommendations from someone you know and trust are always invaluable. DONATE – If you love the show and our content, consider making a donation by clicking the “Donate” now Pay Pal button on the right side of the website. GET SOCIAL – Join the Facebook Group, like the Facebook Page, and NOW ON INSTAGRAM GO SHOPPING using any affiliate links we post if you are thinking of buying a book or product we mention or recommend. We appreciate you, our listeners, and your support of the podcast allows us to reach more listeners, book amazing guests, and spread the messages of honest nutrition, health, and wellness. Thank you so much! Try Cacao Bliss and save 15% with this link and code LOWCARB Cacao Bliss original contains the genuine power of organic raw cacao which encases a host of healthful benefits. It brings you the best form of chocolate that is all energy and clinically safe to promote lots of functions in your body. Cacao Bliss brings you the pleasure of eating chocolate without any fear of adding weight! It’s such a magical superfood that has absolutely no side effect rather this incredibly good chocolate is nourishing and supportive to strengthen the body against so many health problems. TRY the Nutritional Therapy 101 FREE 7 Day course and get a taste of what you can learn!   Listen or subscribe with Siri or Alexa. Low-Carb Conversations Production by Kevin Kennedy-Spaien of Disc Of Light Media. Theme and interstitial music: Out of It (Rambling Man Remixes) by Andrew Bowden (c) copyright 2011 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/andrewbowden/33629 Ft: Brad Sucks

In this 24th episode of The Lavender Fix podcast I interview: Victoria Myers, from Greenville- South Carolina, owner of Nourishing Mind Nutrition - all about spreading body positivity through intuitive eating with the prime focus of empowering women to ditch the diets, heal their digestion, regulate their hormones & learn to practice wellness without obsession.Years ago, Victoria would spend every waking moment of her life obsessing over her body size, her meal plans, working out to burn off the calories & things she could not eat. Like a lot of us, Victoria found herself in a down spiral of yo-yo dieting, restrict & binge eating & orthorexia. As a result of putting her body through years of strain, she developed hormonal imbalances & digestive issues. Today, Victoria  eats intuitively, has found happiness in her own skin, & has healed her health issues. How?Tune in to learn from Victoria's experience! Buzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched! Start for FREEDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.

In this 23rd episode of The Lavender Fix podcast I interview: Bríd McNulty, a food & body coach who started her brand Free With Bríd as a way to turn her own 10-year journey of recovering from binge-eating into a message for others who may be struggling with similar eating behaviours. The 10 tumultuous years helped Bríd identify what was working for her body & what wasn't. With time Bríd realised how important mindset shift was, alongside  challenging food rules, & dealing with deeper emotional issues to reach food freedom & being the best version of yourself. Today we chat about Bríd's binge-eating recovery & how she's using her learnings to help others!Buzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched! Start for FREEBuzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched! Start for FREEDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.

In this episode Molly gives us great insight into her journey of becoming a registered dietician and how she discovered her enthusiasm of gut health and digestion. We talk about how we came to know each other and stay connected through the years and eventually host workshops together. Molly tells us about what wellness rituals she practices in her daily life to stay balanced and moving forward on her journey. This episode lightly touches on a variety of topics from diet culture in social media to intuitive eating. Please follow along and enjoy! http://www.mollypelletieryoga.com/about.html https://www.youtube.com/c/MOLLYPELLETIER/videos curewellnesscollective.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

#015 Fed up with diets and wellness hype? Christine Okezie is on a mission to guide you to approach your food, weight and body image challenges from a genuinely "whole-istic" perspective.  She's passionate about you having the right tools to understand the deeper soul truths in your health challenges so you can feel empowered in your body and in your life. Marc David, M.A. is the Founder of the Institute for the Psychology of Eating. He the author of the classic, groundbreaking and bestselling books Nourishing Wisdom and The Slow Down Diet.  For over 3 decades, Marc has been delivering his non dogmatic, positive and inspiring messages about food and metabolism.  He shows us how to heal and transform our food, weight and body image challenges by addressing the emotional and spiritual aspects of our lives.  Marc's wisdom speaks to that deeper hunger in all of us.  Get ready for an empowering conversation that reminds us that true health is a journey of self evolution.   

In episode 6, forest therapy guide Kat Novotna describes how our current human experience during the pandemic can be seen as a journey of transition towards a new way of life on every level: personal, collective and  planetary. She shares from her personal experience how the principles and techniques of forest therapy are designed to meet the needs of this time and can be applied in any situation as a powerful way to release stress and relax; and most of all, to open our hearts to find deeper meaning and personal growth as we live towards the new.The episode includes a sample invitation from Kat's manual, Transition Time Journaling Prompts to Reflect and Reconnect.(downloadable as a free gift)Kat Novotna is a​n ANFT certified Forest Therapy guide, artist and Mind-Body Nutrition coach based in the Netherlands. Kat's passion and element are to help people re-connect with nature, with aliveness, with themselves and with others. To slow down, relax and re-connect with their heart and body wisdom. With a passion for creativity and Shinrin-yoku art, and a background in linguistics and cross-cultural communication, Kat is enjoying guiding and working with people from all around the world through her company Way Back Home, both in person and online.Kat also serves as Co-chair of the European Council of the Association of Nature and Forest Therapy to help support the practice and the guides, and to spread the word about Forest Therapy, and the reciprocity aspect of the relationship between humans and our planet. Read more at www.linktr.ee/waybackhome.nl or view Shinrin-yoku art designs at www.linktr.ee/shinrinyokuart.Support the show

Don't get sucked into the Quarantine-15 memes flying around social media that are poking fun at the reality of weight gain during trauma. Today we meet Tanya Mark the founder of Mind-Body Nutrition that helps shed light on this important topic.    Link to Tanya's Article: https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/opinion/columnists/health_rotating/as-you-shelter-in-place-forget-about-your-weight/article_cf2f94d1-ed28-5d44-991b-42ce0696a166.html The Conscious Eating Conclave starting May 11, 2020. https://the-conscious-eating-conclave.heysummit.com/   Tanya Mark is a Mind-Body Nutrition, Dynamic Eating Psychology + Wellness Coach, Body Image Movement Global Ambassador, Redefining Wellness Ambassador and author behind "Radical Acceptance," a Jackson Hole News & Guide column focused on promoting healthy body image and redefining health. Tanya takes a non-diet, intuitive eating approach to healthful eating and works with clients virtually from her home base of Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Expert Credentials: Certified Mind Body Eating Coach, Institute for the Psychology of Eating; Nutrition Therapy Practitioner, Nutrition Therapy Institute; Body Image Movement Global Ambassador; Redefining Wellness Ambassador; Spirit Junkie Masterclass Certified; Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (former); Precision Nutrition Certified Founder Tanya Mark Mind Body Health

Connect with Barry Ratzlaff online in the following places:Instagram: @ratzlaffbarryHosted: Andrew Bracewell @everydayamazingpodcastProduced/Edited: Justin Hawkes @Hawkes21Full Transcription of this Interview:Andrew Bracewell: This is the podcast that finds the most elusive people the everyday amazing kind that you know nothing about. I'm hunting these people down and exposing their beauty to the world. I'm Andrew Bracewell and this is every day. Amazing. Barry Ratzlaff: Get off social media. Stop looking at Instagram pictures of people who have perfect bodies and are purveying these perfect lives because that is such a negative thing for your brain.Andrew Bracewell: Happy New Year, everybody. I'm grinning ear to ear because today's guest is one of the reasons I get up in the morning literally. But more on that later, when something is delicious, I mean really delicious. I will often attempt to describe it by saying It's like two tiny humans are having sex in my mouth. Whether or not the metaphor is accurate, my excitement in the moment is effectively communicated, and the person to whom I am speaking knows why I'm losing my mind. That's how I feel about today's guest, but we're not going to eat him or have sex with them. We're going to talk to him because in addition to the fact that he's highly intelligent, he has helped countless people change their lives by shaping the way they view their nutrition, fitness and overall health, including me. Barry Rats Laugh is a gift to mankind. But before I let him speak, I'll give you a short synopsis of what he does in some of his life accomplishments. Together with his wife, Janna, they own proactive transformations, a boutique health and fitness facility operated on their property in the Fraser Valley, their mantra. Helping people achieve their best body in a healthy way. Some of Barry's certifications and accomplishments include a C E certified personal trainer. He's an A C E certified health coach. He's certified in fitness and sports, nutrition certified and overuse, injuries and rehabilitation certified in low back disorders. In 1999 Barry was the body for life champion. In 2003 he was the Ice Atari best body champion in 2000 Very trained The Body for Life, Canadian champion, and in 2001 he trained the body for life. First runner up. That is quite the pedigree, Barry, Welcome to the show.Barry Ratzlaff: Thanks, Andrew. Good to be here.Andrew Bracewell: How does that sound? Hearing all of that that read out. Are you amazed by yourself? Just sell the copilot B s. Well, it's difficult to hear positive things about ourselves. It is. It is. So that is actually quite the ah, the list. And I want to start by asking you a little bit about your journey into the health and fitness industry and how it came to be that you're in the place you're in today.Barry Ratzlaff: Well, I was, uh I'm also a ordained minister. He But you know that. And I spent a lot of time in the church.Andrew Bracewell: You marry and bury people I didBarry Ratzlaff: for a long time. I am married and buried. I married your ah, one of your associates. Yeah. So I did that for a long time. And that lifestyle is not a healthy one. Working with kids. I was youth pastor. I worked with, uh, mostly junior high and some senior high kids. I did it for 15 years, and through the course of those 15 years, we eat a lot of doughnuts and you drink a lot of pop and you have a lot of late nights with Doritos on buses heading to youth events. And it's it's it's a gong show, physically like you're just getting fatter and fatter and more and more tired. And you just keep yourself going with sugar.Andrew Bracewell: This was like eighties and nineties orBarry Ratzlaff: Ah, yeah. I graduated from Bible school in 91 my first church was up north in Fort McMurray in 92 0 wow. I didn't know for a fact or Mac. Two and 1/2 years. Yeah, my personal hell. ButAndrew Bracewell: I have more on that later. Yes, exactly. TheBarry Ratzlaff: place where you could be nothing other than Pastor Bury. All right. It was awful. Anyway, so, uh, through the course of the of my pastor eight years, I just got more and more out of shape when I had a few attempts at getting into shape over the period of time where I would and I didn't know much. I've been lifting admitting the gym since I was 13 yearsAndrew Bracewell: old. Yeah. So you were a child athlete, right? Early? Yeah. I read about these kindBarry Ratzlaff: of won all the athlete of the year awards through elementary and high school. A big wrestler back in the day. And when the B C championships got a scholarship sf you which I turned down, I didn't want to wrestle anymore. It was just It was misery, like physically punishing that I enjoyed the physical punishment. But you're always dieting. You're always restricting your nutrition to keep your weight class right. It's just like boxing. You're constantly moving, moving down away class, trying to be competitive. And so I just did that for all of my high school years and said, I'm kind of done with this now I just want to move on. Where was I going with that? It was competitive athlete. All through those yearsAndrew Bracewell: you're in Fort Mac and for Mr Berry, And the original question was, How did you journey out of the Pastor Berry mode into?Barry Ratzlaff: So it's your today, tried a few times, get to get into shape, And it was always without any nutritional knowledge. And back in the day, like in the nineties, there wasn't a lot of you walk into a health food store. You walk into a bookstore, you didn't see a lot of good information about how to do this. The Body for Life book hadn't come out yet, which was really the very first user friendly book that came out. The first system don't want Hey, I could do this to Before that. It was like Arnold's encyclopedia bodybuilding, right?Andrew Bracewell: But that was only good for the guys. The gym rats who were who were living that lightBarry Ratzlaff: was only good for them. And also bodybuilding, weightlifting resistance training at that time and before was considered an underground activity that was not worth anything and set for meatheads. So if you were Oh, yeah, okay, if you're a linebacker for a football team or you want to be a big, thick, no neck wrestler, then you go to the gym and pump iron. But everyone else in the world should really avoid it because it's dangerous. It'll hurt your joints. It'll make you a meathead. Women will get huge and muscular and disgusting if they lift weights. So that was the common knowledge or the common wisdom of the day. And it was completely wrong, which we know now because everybody's getting into it. But back then, that's how it was. And so, uh, I had made attempts to get into shape. I remember didn't want a 98. My my local gym, too, burnt down shortly after. It wasn't my fault, but he didn't hurt down shortly after it had a get in shape contest. And I'm like, Good Lord, I'm gonna do this because I want Oh, they had a very nominal price. Whatever it was like one month, three membership in a egg of grapes. Suddenly it was just It was really dismal. But I was youth pastor. So if you waved anything in front of me, I'd be gone for it. Like Holy crap, I could win grapes. I'm doing this. And so I I did that and I starved myself down to this. But £215 not a really impressive look. Kind of soft and flat because I was starving for three months.Andrew Bracewell: It should be noted, we need to give people perspective on what, 250lb? Because 250lb for you, Junior 15 215lb for you is actually kind of small.Barry Ratzlaff: Oh, I was a bone rack. Yeah,Andrew Bracewell: because you've walked around before At what? To 265 to 270Barry Ratzlaff: today. Walked around to 265.Andrew Bracewell: And when you are a lean, mean machine, you've been to 235 to 240. 240? Yeah. So to 215 is actually tinyBarry Ratzlaff: way underweight for me. Yeah, So I in a classic fashion which so many people are familiar with, I dyed it down to this specific weight that I thought I should get to it. Not even about anything about body composition, how much muscle I had or just get down to this. Wait. How's how late can I get and quickly snap a picture before I lose my freaking mind? And as quickly as the pictures done, get me in the car and I'm going to in W for, like, five team burgers because I want to get the party started. And so I did that, and so literally IAndrew Bracewell: was actually teen burgers. Did you actually do that?Barry Ratzlaff: I was straight to in w. Had hadAndrew Bracewell: not Big Mac's, not Cooper'sBarry Ratzlaff: to team burgers to teen burgers. And awesome, I think onion rings. That's amazing. A coke it was in. SoAndrew Bracewell: a cool 2500 calories. So this this isBarry Ratzlaff: and this could be will be segueing into this later. But that that waas, that's the microcosm of everyone's diet experience, which is I'm gonna I'm gonna be disciplined, and I'm gonna totally just beat my body and make it my slave and I'm gonna be fantastic and just don't get to my goal and I will fall apart because it's completely unsustainable. And once it's like Frank the Tank and old school, once the beer hits his lips,Andrew Bracewell: it's so good. It's so good. Next thing he'sBarry Ratzlaff: streaking down looks, orders the quad. That's that's most people's that experience, which is ice restrict myself. And then I lose my freakin mind through a season like we just came through. How many times did I hear from people? You know what? I'm just gonna I'm January 1. I'm gonna be back on the wagon. You'll see. For now, I'm eating this entire tray of parties Chocolates. It's like, Okay, I get it.Andrew Bracewell: The highs and lows of New Year's resolutions. Yeah. So backBarry Ratzlaff: to the story, which is I. I won that contest, got my bag of grapes in my free month, and within six months I was back up to 60 to 70. Within 10 months, I was at 2 80 So I just my body. So your body is a very intelligent machine. It knows exactly what it shouldn't shouldn't do. And when you restrict it in a way that's very aggressive. It is lying and wait just like a tiger to pounce on. You mean metabolically and take you back up that that ladder is faster. They canAndrew Bracewell: because it's been starved. And so now it wants to. It'sBarry Ratzlaff: an evolutionary reality that our bodies are designed not to do that. They're not designed to be restricted like that. They will fight back. They fight back with a vengeance. And when they fight back, they come back in a way that we had. You think you feel good again like Oh, yeah, this is fantastic. I do love doughnuts and pasta and breads and entire loaves of bread and one sitting.Andrew Bracewell: This is fantastic.Barry Ratzlaff: But you don't realize within a very short period of time you put on 2030 £40 I'm back to where I started. So I was back to where it started and a little more right and that you hear that story again and again. So I gained all the weight back and a little extra because your body is defending itself. It's just doing what supposed to do. So then I was reading. That year was 98 United States had the body for life conscious back then was called body of work. Bill Phillips, his brother Shawn Phillips. They put this out? Yes. Um, experimental Applied Sciences had this contest out and I was looking through magazines. Saw the article. I went, Ah, I want to do it so bad. But I can't. It's only American citizens because he was giving away a Lamborghini. Oh, so it was only us start $250,000 car and it was this incredible thing. And if you've gotten, if you want, you got to be part of a movie. He was making a movie called Body of Work and he flew Flee down too. Colorado. And it was just crazy. So I wanted to do that, But it wasn't available to Canadians. So the next year 99 I hear from my gym manager a Did you hear that body body for body of work is now available to Canadian soon a Canadian version and I went okay. It is game on, but I didn't have the knowledge to do it, so I thought, OK, on. I've been down to 2 15 before. I'm gonna go hard again So for about two weeks, I started doing the same process. Restrictive nutrition and exercise up the ying yang just overkill. Just cardio, cardio, cardio and, you know, lifting weights and just just not really knowing exactly how it all works. But just throwing as much as I could against my body to see what I couldAndrew Bracewell: publish. Were you in competition like you started immediately in competitionBarry Ratzlaff: as soon as they were playing around with your body to see what you don't know, I wanted to jump right in because all you had to do was take a picture with him with a newspaper. Young people familiar with thisAndrew Bracewell: back in the day. That's what youBarry Ratzlaff: did. You did. You see, it's time stamped. Yeah, and ah, And long as it was a three month window, you could you just start and finish?Andrew Bracewell: It was a body mass index. Was it or was a fat loss, orBarry Ratzlaff: what were they preferred that you do scale weight and body mass index and you send that in and then they would be able to judge from your photos if you were telling the truth or not. If you were just trying to take them for a ride. And so I started, and I realized two weeks in. This is not going well, like I'm not gonna I really want to win this because for me, as a youth pastor, the prize was $10,000 plus a trip to Maui. Let's two year sponsorship.Andrew Bracewell: It's like 35% of your years withBarry Ratzlaff: $3000 ring and a $5000 your package. It was crazy was about $35,000 worth of stuff all together, which for a youth passed.Andrew Bracewell: That's a year. So I'm like, My God, I haveBarry Ratzlaff: to win this! And in my brain, you said you can't win. But my brains always been the kind of Brandon goes. Course I can. I just have to figure this out. So I decided I went around to local gyms, and there's only a few of the time V. R. C. There was Cedar Park Fitness Center, which was Gators after the fact. And then there was, you know,Andrew Bracewell: there are worlds andBarry Ratzlaff: there was, but this world's was long gone, you know? Where the Savoy? Yeah, the world's Jim. Yeah, And what they rose Gold's gym actually, that's right. Yes. Yeah. I was a member of their little while.Andrew Bracewell: That was the real monkey cage.Barry Ratzlaff: It was Don Schultz said that place. And it was Yeah, it was like the guys who consider themselves real lifters. There's chocolate replacing the raps and everything. Like Ruin was grunting and yeah, just a testosterone house, which I kind of like, but they didn't last. They didn't Didn't make money. So So I went around to the gyms that were in the area, and I walked in the gym and I'd look around. I'd pay, though, drop in fee. And I just look and go. Who here is amazing? Like, who looks fantastic. And I pick him up and I'd wait from the finish, their work out. I don't interrupt your workout, and I'd sit by the front door if they had a juice party. But wait there. And I asked him, Can I? And I ask you a few questions and buy you a drink, and they're like, Yeah, for sure. They'd sit down, and so I just asked them. So how did you do this? You look amazing. Like what? What's your routine? What's your nutrition and they'd start telling me they they didn't. Back then, no one was guarding secrets and there was no personal trainers in town.Andrew Bracewell: And no one's asking people those questions back then. Either know today you'd probably get a bit of a guarded response because everybody's doing it. No one wants to reveal, soBarry Ratzlaff: you'd get a little bit of a reference to a website or to an instagram account. Or sure, Do you think this guy's June or I'm doing F 45 Mark Wahlberg?Andrew Bracewell: It is my peach plan. Back off. Yeah, SoBarry Ratzlaff: I saw Mark Wahlberg humping of 45 today. And as soon as I saw him pumping, I said, He's an investor. Oh, and then I saw Yesterday another one comes up on my instagram Gap. Mark Wahlberg, investor and going for investors. Sure, that's last flogging that thing likeAndrew Bracewell: a naked dolphin anyway. But did you know that all dolphins turn? You've never seen that? It's quite the sight. Do you swing it by the tail of the head? How do you do that? Well, we can show you later. That's a live demo. Gonna get letters about cruelty to dolphin. Yeah, keep going very just going.Barry Ratzlaff: I love the dolphins. Love the war when Dan Marino was at the helm, That's okay. So I went to three or four places, talk to three or four guys that I thought were in incredible shape. And then I had one guy in my in my gym Gators Jim. Brian Wong was his name. He was this this Ah, Asian bodybuilder guy. And he was just freaking out A real like, chiseled and just huge. And every time I saw him, I went has got the craziest body like it's crazy. So I talked to him and he kind of laid it out for me. Okay, Okay. All right. And I kind of put it together, But I still was defaulting to my old habits. I couldn't help it. It's like No, no wisdom dictates. Restrict your calories, do lots of activity. That's how it works. So I kept going down that path, starving your body water, working right, So not taking into account any of the clerk balances and intake and, you know, it was crazy. So I didn't remember this date. This changed my life. In essence, this is what set me on a new path of a new career I worked out. It was probably three weeks into the process, and I worked out worked up the way I always do, just also the wall prank, that just sweating till I was dizzy. I could hardly stand up, had no energy, left my body and I went to the juice bar. They're Gators. Jim and I sat down and Brian was there. He had been watching me work out, and he talked to me earlier a couple weeks earlier or a week earlier. And he's so he sat beside me. He goes, Hey, very you're doing the, ah, the body of work contest, right? That's it. Yeah. Hey, guys, how's it going? Said I think I'm doing pretty good, but I don't totally know. I feel just dizzy all the time and weird, and I've told the story many times and the Gators gym at that time. They sold these oatmeal cookies that were literally the size of a dinner plate, like they were huge, probably 800 calorie cookie. He reaches across and he holds it up to the owner, says, Put it on. My tab passes to me and he goes eat that. I said, You're kiddingAndrew Bracewell: me. I can't eat that. He goes. How manyBarry Ratzlaff: calories do you think he just burned in your workout? I watched you. I said, I don't know. He goes. You're probably 800 to 1000 The way you train. I want 1/2 Crazy said, Eat that. You gotta start feeding this system the system and I want. Really? So I ate the cookie, sat there. He made me eat it, didn't give me any pause, ate the cookie and went home feeling just wow. Amazing. Then I started understand all the things that I'd learn from these people that I talk to you, that there's a system that your body wants to subscribe to it and it works. And you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. People always say you can't do it. Same time I did. No steroids, no major products. I gained almost £20 of muscle and lost £50 of fat in a 14 week period. It was insane. I was being accused by guys. Watch me going. You're on juice, man. Oh, yeah. He's old juiced up here. I'm talking about me behind my back. Well, he's old. You still man, like No, not eating like a savage and training intelligently.Andrew Bracewell: Wow. So that was the beginning of your health. Fitness journey career. You eventually dropped the pastor thing. We don't have to get into the specifics of what you did there. But what year did you all of a sudden say Okay, Barry, Rats laugh, and it should be noted. Janet does this with you. Your wife? Janet. When did you say we are fitness trainers or health coaches or whatever? You call yourself a the time. Was that 2001 too?Barry Ratzlaff: S o I received. The prize is beginning of 2000. And as soon as I got home from Hawaii, they had a publication in the Muscle and Fitness magazine or the whatever the GS publication WAAS and Ah, my phone started to ring because they just they allAndrew Bracewell: theBarry Ratzlaff: published was named not phone numbers and stuff and contact info. But I started getting calls from all over the world. I'd be sleeping too. Am I get a phone call from New Zealand?Andrew Bracewell: I might have read your article that somebody like you look fantastic. Sort of. You know, it's It's a different top. There's times where and what time. So I too am a bit sorry, man, I didn't mean to do that. Okay? Can you just give me a few tips? Three chips quickly. OK, I'll tellBarry Ratzlaff: you what I did. And they stood, The phone started ringing, and I started having coffee with guys. And it happened, Maur and more and more. And so, Genesis, you need to start. You're taking a lot of time out of your scheduling. This is operating money. Sure. And I'm a youth pastor. Right? The whole idea is service for nothing. Like your life is worthless. Give it to the Lord and you may or may not get something back. We'll see. We'llAndrew Bracewell: rewards are eternal. They are. When you see the crown that you're gonna get, you'll be so excited. Yeah, but I've never worn a crown. I know, but you're gonna love Oh, my God. I love you so much. You put language to things that are in my head all the time. Just do it so much better than me. Well, there you go. SoBarry Ratzlaff: the phone was ringing. I was going out with people for coffees, and I was basically giving them my system and not charging. And then I started charging little money for it. And the first time I charge somebody, I felt so guilty. I think I charged him 50 bucks for, like, an hour and 1/2 and he just There you go the next time. And did I tried for 100? Yeah. There you go. And then I tried for 1 50 Yeah, absolutely. Totally worth it. You know, like, Okay, this is stupid. I have to I have to get certified as a trainer, so I can do this for real and charge these people for real. And so yeah. So the Jan and I decided we put our heads together, said, Let's just get certified and get her personal train certificates. And we did that. And we kind of launched while I was still a youth pastor. But knowing that things were changing in my life, I've been a youth pastor for a long time, and my energy and will to keep up and contend with kids was was kind of coming to a close, and, ah, and then the church I was part of her. That time had a big shake up in it. You know, the leader wasAndrew Bracewell: kind ofBarry Ratzlaff: going down the signs and wonders trail of kind of kookiness. And I just wanted to get out so bad. And ah, and then all the stars align. I said, You know what? I'm done the Remember the day this is this is gonna off topic, But you gotta edit this out.Andrew Bracewell: We're not in Italy on go. Yeah.Barry Ratzlaff: So I got a phone call I had worked at the at this church that I was in for eight years. I had never had a meeting with an elder. Not once, because I just did what I supposed to do. And I had an amazing youth group, a big team of volunteers. That was awesome. We had a great thing going, so no one ever bug me. They said not Leave him alone. He's doing great. Kids love him. The staff love him. It's great. I got a phone call.Andrew Bracewell: Hey. Yeah, Yeah. Berry. Yeah, this is Dave here. Ah, from the oldest board would load up a coffee with you just to discuss a few things to see howBarry Ratzlaff: your ministries going. His voice is cracking. I'm going. You're such aAndrew Bracewell: piece of shit. You You're just I know exactly.Barry Ratzlaff: I don't know exactly where he's gonna go. I knew that what I was because I had been teaching on a certain thing. Brian McLaren. A new tank. Yeah, that stuff called wind. And they're all offendedAndrew Bracewell: that there is no such thing as a new dime crystal. It's awful. So IBarry Ratzlaff: went to the meeting with the elders with my resignation letter in my pocket, walked into Tim Hortons. There they were, these two guys looking pretty nervous. They thought they'd kind of strong hand me a bit and, you know, saying Can we get you back in line? And And they said they talked about McClaren first they talked niceties. I'm going. Just get through. It just gets through that crash. I want to talk to you about my life. Then they got to the second part, which was likeAndrew Bracewell: so basedBarry Ratzlaff: on what we understand, McClaren and a new Christianity all stuff DoAndrew Bracewell: you think you can still work atBarry Ratzlaff: our church and hold those views? Because we'd love to have you as part of ourAndrew Bracewell: team, but we feel like you're shifting. I said Nope, I can't.Barry Ratzlaff: And I pulled my resignation of plotting the table said, There's my two weeks. Thank you, gentlemen. Enjoy your day. And I walked out and they just sat there with white faces because they didn't want to lose me. But they did. And I thought, this is fantastic. So I walked down the street from the Tim Hortons on the corner of South Frazer waiting. Glad when there and ah, I got about 100 feet past store and walk and feel like a 1,000,000Andrew Bracewell: bucks. I just quit a job. Oh, yes. Oh, God, Like it should be noted at that time in your life. You got young Children, four young Children, four young Children. You're you're not floating in money. No, you're you're living relatively paycheck to paycheck.Barry Ratzlaff: When I ever went to take vacations, a few of my client's razz me about this. I would go to the auctions, and at that time, in the most lucrative thing that I could flip was a mobility scooter, and some might find these mobility scooters at the auction. I'd fix them up putting batteries, and I'd sell them at a big profit so I could take my family on vacation. Would have enough money to do that. That's how he funded my fun stuff with flipping things.Andrew Bracewell: Wow. Yeah. So that's quite the story. I meet you in 2007. And so when I meet you in 2007 you've now been operating in a new way For, what, 45 years, then?Barry Ratzlaff: Yeah, we saw. That was 2001. I finished at the church. 2003 for good. And 2003. We hung basically hunger shingles. Got a website going. I remember the first guy. This is crazy. The first guy that walked through my door to be trained, uh, rob deck. He's a helicopter pilot with with chinook. He sat on my kitchen table. He wrote me a check for the full value of 36 session program the body for life program, and watched him signing this. Check this. I'm like, this is one dude, and he just wrote me a check for $1700. That's what I got paid every two weeks ofAndrew Bracewell: the church. Like this is if I could get like, I'm withBarry Ratzlaff: these guys, I'm I'm going golden and my very first client, Rob Dick. He won the Canadian body for life.Andrew Bracewell: That's so so cool because I had no one you coached. You coached him and doing that? Yeah. Okay,Barry Ratzlaff: now he's just another one.Andrew Bracewell: I knew you had done that. I just didn't know who you would coach. But that's the guy you coached to. Yeah, Okay.Barry Ratzlaff: And I coached on the guy in Chilled like Rob, Best former gym owner of gators. And he won the Canadian body for life. So we actually five champions. You're a little old, Jim.Andrew Bracewell: Not everybody in life gets to experience this, unfortunately, But the thing that you just alluded to that ah ha moment that you can have in life where you get paid fair value for the value that you bring her for your time. Yeah, It's quite a life changing moment to experience that not everybody gets to, but clearly for you, that was significant. And and I have experienced that as well.Barry Ratzlaff: So it was huge, and it's very difficult to accept that. Like, to believe you're worthy of that money. Absolutely. It just doesn't seem right.Andrew Bracewell: Hey, you. You touched on something. Really? I want to circle back to because there's a whole rabbit hole that we can go down. You talked about how, when, in the early part of your journey, your old mind thought, work hard, starve yourself And somewhere along the way, your new mind with your cookie story, and then thereafter learned that work hard and actually give your body a bounty. All right, good nutrition. And that is something. If I could explain that, that's a similar experience I had with you. So when I met you in 2007 and we don't have to get into the all of my story, well, maybe we can if you want, but my old brain thought the same thing. Starvation is nutrition, but that is not the case. So can you just dive into that a little bit and then also speak to the significant transformation, or maybe the ups and downs of the nutrition world in the last 20 years of you, as you've observed it from your chair?Barry Ratzlaff: Yeah, the ah, the value of nutrition cannot be overstated. It's easily 78. 80% of any successful short term and long term program is nutrition. It has to be your body's designed to use fuel in a way that makes sense to it. If it doesn't get what it needs, it's gonna basically shut itself down. It'll it'll turn itself off in and you won't get anywhere. Um, everyone has those experiences of plateaus and in their routines, plateaus, and some of them are normal. Some of them are very, very damaging. So the idea of understanding a your metabolic level like Where's What are you burning at rest in a given day? Well, I'm sitting here talking to you,Andrew Bracewell: which is different for everybody, right?Barry Ratzlaff: It's different for everybody, particularly for folks. So when I get people come to the gym doors that I know how it's called metabolic damage. So they have done dieting. They've done Kato. They've done all these horrific things to themselves and some of them not so horrific. Some of them truly are very, very damaging. They really need a start up there. They're burning, you know, 1500 calories a day when they should be burning 2500 calories aAndrew Bracewell: day because they've trained their body to live on starvation. Their bodies furnace is running at such an incredibly low.Barry Ratzlaff: They haven't trained anything. They've just caused a huge reaction in their system. The bodies is defending itself. It's just going into this retreat mode where it's gonna hold on to any calories it gets rather than burn them off,Andrew Bracewell: right? If you only want to give me 1200 calories, then I will learn how to operate off 12. And I haveBarry Ratzlaff: to, and it happens within 7 to 10 days. So so that's why I'm such a huge proponent of Sai clicked. Cyclist. Nutrition and every user were dieting. It's cycling contrition, so eating up and eating down and knowing where the line is and making sure the eating up enough to keep your metabolism stoked eating down enough that if you're trying to get off some body, thought you could do that, but only in a very short period of time. It's it's really a 5 to 7 day window that you can cycle through before your body begins to catch on. So, like, for instance, body for life, I keep referring to that people. It's funny. Whenever I talk to people body for life, they go,Andrew Bracewell: Oh hey, yeah, I did that program back in the day I'm like and yeah, I got I lost, like, £40 I felt fantastic. And I started stopped doingBarry Ratzlaff: it because of the next thing came out. Whatever it was, South Beach came out. And And Tony, whatever his name is in the PX nine year P 90 X came out. You know, the next thing came out and people think, Oh, all these programs revolving the human species must be evolving. So I have to change with the times like and then, uh, didn't you read the title of the book body for life Like It's for life? This works for life. I've been doing it 20 years. When I first had the this Ah ha moment began eating like this where I was eating 5 to 6 times a day on o'clock, measured amounts knew it was going in. It was going out. I was still working in the church at that time, and I go down to the staff room. I had I bought a blender, brought it in there. I have my own box of shakes there in the cupboard and remember is blending. One day one of the secretaries came in. She goes, she kind of looked at me with this sort of not really disdain, but, like, really, really, that's what you're doing. I know all about diets and she goes, How long can you keepAndrew Bracewell: that up? I said, Honestly, well, would Weight Watchers have been a thing at that time? Yes, like that's I remember Weight Watchers. So maybe her experience with dieting was probably something like that, which is heavy restrictionBarry Ratzlaff: going way back. Like you even reference still ity that that Atkins was 1972 started in 1972. Resurgence in the nineties and all the way through James Fix and his running, you know, his extreme running the guy who ran himself to death and had a heart attack. There was stuff all along the way. That was basically they were potholes for people to have these experiences of restriction, to lose weight and then to realize they couldn't do it. They blame themselves, and the diet industry lies heavily on that, that we will blame ourselves for it not working, and then we'll come back again and try harder next time because, well, I failed last time because I am a failure, not the program was a failure. If the program solid it is, does it is supposed to do? And it it has some degree of longevity built into it. It should work for anybody, really. But that's not how it worksAndrew Bracewell: so well, Call it cyclical dieting that fair. So you've embraced cyclical cyclical dieting for the last 20 year. So years. In that time, you've also now observed all of the fad diets, and you alluded to some of them. Whether it's Atkins, Kato, South Beach, I could probably think of a couple others if I scratch my head. Yeah, Paleo Haley. Oh, yeah, yeah. How has that have you? How have you had to deal with that in terms of your clients and your street conversations? And how has that impacted your business and whatever the parties, you're right where you're sipping cocktails and everyone has an opinion on something.Barry Ratzlaff: Everybody has an opinion because everyone has a body and everyone's a mouth and everyone's a smartphone. Put those together and you gotta just a dynamite box for people to have this knowledge about how you know what works and what doesn't the thing about. So let's let's pick on a current one, and I'm not picking on on purpose. I'm picking on it because I've seen too many bad stories or I seen the stories and poorly too many times. So it's Kato. Now People come to me and say, What do you think about Kato? And the thing I always say first is it works. It works like a hot damn if you're trying to get your body fat reduced. If you don't care about losing muscle mass, you don't care about losing your metabolic potential. If you're just trying to get lighter, you can't get better than kitto. You'll you'll lose fat at a shocking rate. But you'll also lose water, which is a big piece of the puzzle, because when you lose carbohydrates, carbohydrates and water bond in your system toehold in the muscle tissue, so you lose water. You lose a big monument that way. But the payoff at the end, or the payout at the end of that process is always always a nightmare. So two stories Ah guy, I know I won't see the place where he's employed, but I saw him at his place of employment about two years ago, and I saw him. And he's normally about £340 for here and £30. And he was maybe 200. I was like, Oh, my goodness. What have you done? He goes a I know, right? Look at this. Crazy. He's touching this. Get on his stomach. It's all floppy in loose and thinking. Maybe he has to have some surgery on that. And I said, So what you do. And he goes, I did. Kato got in a Keogh plan and just dropped 100. And whatever was £140. I'm like, Dude, you look amazing. Like you're You look amazing. And so then I inserted my caveat, which is No, I'm proud of you. Amazing job. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Is this sustainable? Can you do this for the rest of your life? He goes, I don't know if I can eat whole cream and bacon for breakfast every day. And avocados and and steak fat like like I know, I know. So I'm asking you, can you just forever. No, I can't. It's okay. I said, Are you thinking of transitioning into Ah, balanced lifestyle, Ingles? Yes, I am. I said king. Promise me this that you will phone me when the time comes and we can have a discussion. And I can help you set up a plan to get this thing done right? Because I will. I will. I said I won't charge you. I am so vested in this that I want to give this to you as a gift of Don't. Don't do this, man. Don't go down that road. I've seen it too many times. She goes okay. I will. I will. We lost touch. I didn't see him. He got transferred that story to another store. And ah, about a year later, he was then transferred back to the store and I saw him and I went Oh, my goodness. He was 3 50 I saw him and I I walked up and said, Hey, how's it going, man? He goes, Hey, and you could see the look of shame and defeat in his eyes because I hadn't changed at all over that year. But he had put on 100 and £50 and ah, hey, just he was a defeated human being and the chance of him being able to recover from that and get the weight down in a healthy way. Extremely, extremely low possibility ofAndrew Bracewell: that. So I would suggest from my anecdotal experience, which is not as vast as yours but as I've observed many of these bad diets from the sideline, I fortunately, you know, met you years ago when I did and embraced. What I would say is the right long term, holistic, healthy way of tackling the conversation of health and fitness. But what I've seen in the others is that the focus is weight loss predominantly without having to put work in in the gym. Is that a fair statement of a lot of those? Because my experience has been tackled the nutrition piece. But then along with the nutrition piece, is you gotta work your ass off in the gym. And if you're not willing to work your ass off in the gym than long term, it's not sustainable because our bodies are meant to move and work and anything that says you don't have to move and work is a trick that that's my own. Is that fair?Barry Ratzlaff: Absolutely early. Atkins early Kato. Others variations of Kitano called dirty heat or psych like Ito, where people are trying to make it a process where you could do this for life and you can incorporate exercise extreme exercise. And you can break muscle tissue down like we do in the gym and have it rebuild because carbohydrates are a fairly essential process part of that process. Um, yeah, that's a very fair statement to make.Andrew Bracewell: So where I go with this in my brain is that I look at the evolution of, you know, mankind and I think Okay, so let's go back 405 100,000 years ago, whatever we did not have to work to move in, that our body movement and physical activity came as a byproduct of what had to happen. Every day we were connected to the Earth. We had to work the ground, you know, work, work, the livestock. I mean, just to live and eat required physical exertion. And then we go through this metamorphosis evolutionary experience in life, and today we don't have to move. You and I could sit here on a chair in a lethargic state and be just fine with computers and smartphones and whatever else we want to add to that so I find, because of my own health experience and the fact that I was obese at a point time. My life. I find myself having these conversations now with our Children who are growing up in an even more lethargic state than I grew up in. And it's interesting because I don't think working out is a natural thing. I don't think a human just wakes up one day and says, I want to go push. Wait, So I'm gonna go for a run so we maybe have toe work. We have to convince ourselves that we need to do this because of the lethargic state that were in there were naturally living. And I'm having this conversation with my Children and they're even fighting me on it. But my fear is that if we don't train ourselves early that we need to do this, then you know we end up in a place that we don't want to be in. It's just Ah, this is a convo that were in every day, and I think we're here because of where we've come evolutionary on evolution basis.Barry Ratzlaff: Oh yeah, and I mean there's in the last 30 40 years There's been a huge movement in the school system to move away from physical activity as legislated. So my son was here for Christmas, and he's a personal trainer, Victoria. He was reading a book called Spark, and he was very excited about it. He was telling me a little excerpt from it. Basically, it's based on a gentleman's research down in Idaho where it's I think it's Idaho. It's the only state that has legislated physical activity in the states. Still, most of them moved away. They've cut those programs, so they've gotten rid of art. They've got rid of music, and they got rid of a visit. This guy was really interesting to visit because the neurotrophic value of exercise. So in this little enclave in Idaho, where these students air forced to forced to exercise their grades, are off the charts better in some of their math scores than Stan. Chinese schools, like these kids are killing it, and they're discovering that what happens to the brain when it's forced to B e, the bodies used in a way that you know, resistance training, intense exercise. It's the only way you can create these. These neural pathways in these chemicals, your endorphins in your serotonin and all these good things. They're supposed to be part of who we are, and they really helped build the brain in a functional way, an i Q way. And so there were just We've moved away from very, very valuable pieces of who we are as human beings, thinking they were not straws we don't need that would get the car and driver were going. Who wants to walk, well, well, ourselves around the mall, there's escalators. Take us up on the flights of stairs. There's all these things not knowing that we're shooting ourselves in the foot literally, um, physically. And we need to get back to the basics of why it's important for all this work to happen for our bodies. Fascinating for sure.Andrew Bracewell: You have a unique chair that you sit in in what in your vocation and what you do on the way, I'll do my best to describe it, and you can tell me if I've done a good job of it a little happy Speak to it. But my observation of you is that the majority of your clients are high level achievers in their varying areas of profession. And these people sit with you 34 times week for an hour or more, and you get to dialogue with them. And I've often thought that is fascinating that six, maybe five days, a week, eight hours a day or more. You're with high level achieving humans who have chosen to put their fitness and health versus a priority. What is that? What is that like to be in that environment 24 7 IBarry Ratzlaff: would say it's ah, it's encouraging in a in a weird way. You think? Oh, man, you're on these people, these these these humans, they're they're worth hundreds of millions of dollars and they're out there pulling strings. You know, in the real world that they're in control of some really cool stuff and they walked through my door and the door closes and agent, I just see the relief would go across your face there like a They're in a safe place, a place where they could be themselves. They can tell me what's going on inside of themselves because they know I have, ah, counseling pastoral history. And that piece of me didn't die like I still have a passion for understanding, helping and loving human beings in a way that gets them to a new place.Andrew Bracewell: That's the Lord Berry. I know the spirit of peace is in my hut. Gonna touch you in a way you have imagined. Okay, E i e I know it doesn't take much to get you off theBarry Ratzlaff: tangents air their attention there. So these guys come through the door and it's I just trained guys. I do train. Currently, I have one female, which is your wife, and you come together as a couple, but mostly guys and they come in andAndrew Bracewell: they should be noted. Your wife trainsBarry Ratzlaff: My wife trains the ladies? Yes, she works with ladies. Shay works, but the lady isn't at work with the gentleman.Andrew Bracewell: It seems to be the best system we could very old fashioned. Arranged.Barry Ratzlaff: It is. It is. Yeah. Yeah, it just saves us from from issues. Sure, Yeah, yeah. From issues that could be life altering. So we don't want to go down those paths. So they come through the door and the it's it's fantastic because they get to be riel. They love this. The pieces of it that I find very curious. They love me, telling them what to do because in their lives no one tells them what to do. They make the rules. If they can't make the rule, they'll buy a new rule like it's it's pretty cool. So they walk through the door and they kind of go, OK, Dad, what are you doingAndrew Bracewell: today like All right, here we go.Barry Ratzlaff: And off we go on our little journey or fitness journey. But it's way more than a fitness journey for these guys. It's always way more there. Is there so much more? In terms of the they need a place where they can be themselves. They need a place like cheers where everyone knows your name. Or at least one guy knows your name, your true name. And ah, we'll hear you out. You could tell me stuff thatAndrew Bracewell: you get it all right. Like you're you're in the therapist here Stuff? Yeah,Barry Ratzlaff: but every month I hear someone say I not even my wife knows this. Sure,Andrew Bracewell: but except me, honey, I don't talk to bury that way on DDE.Barry Ratzlaff: I'm totally good with it, like and I'd have no no needs toe feel like Oh, yeah, this is great. Having this insider information, it's like, No, it's like you're what you're telling me is in the vault and to guess what, We're all the same. And that's not a piece that makes me feel really good when these guys air coming up. Now what that way is that we are all the same. We all walk the same earth and we have the same issues. It doesn't matter if you have $100 million or $100 you face the same shit and it's how you deal with it that counts. Right now, these guys deal with things very differently. Their minds. So this is This is a note I made earlier in coming into. This is when I see and I was talking to one of my clients essay about this very factor, which is when someone walks through the door of the gym and I can usually tell how they're gonna react to pain. The way a person's pain response is is often how they'll function in life and most Taipei's. When you give them pain, it's sparked something in them. It doesn't shut them down. Most people get pain. They're like,Andrew Bracewell: Oh, that hurts. That hurts that IBarry Ratzlaff: I don't want to do that. That's that's uncomfortable, but a type A or like a really achiever. They feel pain, and it actually sparks curiosity.Andrew Bracewell: Yeah, I don't I don't even not toe push back on your comment. But I think it would be unfair to say Taipei's because there's there's people, maybe who aren't Taipei's who are high achievers. Yeah, I put that you agree not to pick what you're saying, but I know what I know. The spirit of what you're trying to say. People who are capable of a lot respond differently than those that are not. Is that it or not? Yeah, yeah,Barry Ratzlaff: I've had clients that that one is specific. Who every time I put a weight in his hand and he would do a rap as the way it was coming up, he was literally be saying outAndrew Bracewell: loud, out, out, out, out, out, out, and doesn't go down. Oh, out, out!Barry Ratzlaff: And he lasted two weeks and quit because for obvious reasons, yeah, versus a guy who I'll say, OK, this set is 10 wraps. He'll look at me and I like a challenge like 10. I'm giving you 12 and off he goes and he'll get his 12 like it just doesn't matter what number give. It's always more always moreAndrew Bracewell: the pattern in these people's lives just manifesting itself in the It is in the weight room.Barry Ratzlaff: Now on the inverse someone who has had not much success in life, who gets their physical self under control. They begin to see a spill over into all of their life. I heard it again and again and again like I don't know what's happening. But as I'm getting in better shape, I'm way more productive at work. Things were going so much better. My relationship with my wife, my family, is getting better like what's happening to me like it's like your body's doing what's designed to do, the chemicals air flowing. It'sAndrew Bracewell: well, I I'll, so I'll share a piece of my story with you. But I mean, I So I encountered you twice, encountered you first in 2000 and seven, and the things that I learned with you in that moment, I didn't stick with it. And, you know, we were with each other for maybe a year and I went away and I continued in some unhealthy living. But I came back to you in 2012 and the transformation I went through in 2012 I think at my highest I was £235. I was over 30% body fat. I was, by definition I was obese and I was 29 years old and I have been told I was pre diabetic from a doctor who scared the living shit out of me and thank God that he did, because had he not I probably I had this false confidence in my brain. Even though I wasn't amazing, I still thought I was amazing. I still have that to this day. Really. But in that moment I was like a soft bowl of pudding, and I probably thought like I was a middle linebacker, you know? But I needed to have the shit scared out of me. I did came back in 2012 point of the story being the transformation I went through with you in that let's say 6 to 12 month period in that second time back, and I've been with you ever since. But through the fall of 12 the first half of 13 I remember I went from £235 down to 182. I got my body fat index below 10%. I'm not living at that level today, but I went there and it changed my life. It so for me there was, you know, something that occurred in the gym spilled over into into the rest of my life. In the my family health, the health of my career, the way I engaged with humans, just my overall well being mental well being actually snapped in that, you know, in that space that we had together in the gym,Barry Ratzlaff: it's powerful. I mean, the rock calls it his anchor, right? The gym is his anchor. People think it's because he's he loves weightlifting or is addicted to it. Or, you know, he's a huge, muscular guy. But with that guy scheduled the things that he does on a daily basis, the anchor is it gives him his mental stability. It gives him the ability to do all the things he does, comes from his resistance training. Yeah, there's no mystery there and the world is starting to wake up to it. It's taken a while. Like when I first started lifting. That was 13 of 30 years old. When he first got into training, it was still an underground thing. People looked at kind of scoffed at it. Remember talking to people, body for life. And they say, Do I have to do the weight part? Like the weightlifting part?Andrew Bracewell: That's kind of gross. What other partisans? Yeah, I don't want to do cardioBarry Ratzlaff: kind to cardio new body for life. You have to modify it for you. It's not really gonna give you what you want, but okay. But now people are starting to to come awake to it. And unfortunately, as humans always do, they've gone just far, far too extreme with it. Power lifting was never meant to be competitive in the sense of repetition wise, it's Yeah. I want to go there right now because it gets me going real hot when I start thinking about those things. Yeah. WeAndrew Bracewell: don't wanna get you angry, Berry. No, no, no, no. So I had a conversation with somebody else. We're not gonna say names, but somebody else who's a client two years. We're discussing the fact that you were gonna be on the show. We both, you know, admire and love you and the conclusion. So the question we asked herself were like, Well, what? What makes very different wise, Very amazing, Because there's, you know, there's a 1,000,000 trainers in the world. Everybody's a trainer. I mean, you must feel like that in your industry. Literally. Everybody's a trainerBarry Ratzlaff: we started with. There was none in Abbotsford. We're the first ones. People saying Can you actually make a living doing that? IAndrew Bracewell: said, I don't know. I don't know.Barry Ratzlaff: So it worked. But now it's Yeah, everyone's got a personal train certificateAndrew Bracewell: I've got. I've got up European Swiss ball in my basement and I've got padding and I've got dumbbells that range from £3 all the way to £14 I'm gonna get in the best shape of your life. There's people are gonna listen This they're actually gonna feel conviction. Thio Shit. He's talking about me. I might be Oh, and keep doing what you're doing. Cut the air. Beautiful. Just the way. So here's the Here's the conclusion we came to as to why Why is very rats off? Amazing. Why is he not just one of the others? And it was this. You have all the knowledge you have, the physical knowledge nailed. So when it comes to how to lift weights, how to train, how to grow muscle, you know, you know that you know the body very, very well. You also have the nutrition piece absolutely hammered. And the evidence is in the 20 years of proof of successful clients and people who have made significant changes to their body. But more so than any of those two things, it's very obvious that you care the most about the mind. And I don't know if this is something. You just woke up one day and said, I need to care for the human mind more than you know. I don't know what the conversation is. I don't even know if you've ever thought of this or would agree with it. But I would suggest that when somebody trains with you, their brain is as important to you as anything else. What do you What do you think about that?Barry Ratzlaff: Absolutely. I mean, the first thing was, someone walks to the door they're not, Ah, a client in the sense of a person I make money from. I don't even Janet when for the 1st 3 or four years she had to force me to ask for money because I wasn't I didn't care. I get it. We have to pay bills. But I I was so excited to work with people one on one in a sincere it was almost a pastor or a relationship without the religious crap. It was human, really into human. Let's let's just sort of put our minds together and see what we come up come up with here and ah, so yeah, I I really love it. And when I get a client coming through who's not really willing to open on that level, it's kind of disappointing, Like I realized pretty quick on this person. They don't want to go deep. They just want to get their workout in, and often that relationship won't last that long, but fromAndrew Bracewell: because you only have so much time. You don't want to give your time to somebody who's not. It was not all fully engagedBarry Ratzlaff: now, and because we are holistic beings, the mind, the body the spirit, whatever that may be, our completely connected. And so we can't pretend that just lifting weights is gonna make me a healthy human. It's like, absolutely not like your brain is 80% of the equation. If your brain's messed up and it's thinking like some really bad shit about who you are, how you function amongst people boat your relationship with your wife for your kids or whatever, you're not gonna be healthy. That's not health.Andrew Bracewell: And you see that, right? I mean, I can't even say that you've seen that you have to speak about other clients. But in me, let's say there's a direct relation to be in terms of where the person's brain is that and then their physical output. Oh,Barry Ratzlaff: yeah, moments. Yeah, I've seen it in you. When you went through the process over the last year and 1/2 of purchasing the company and the stress load you're carrying, um, the effect it had on you and your wife like put strain on everything and it shows up in how you perform in the gym. And you know what, Jim? Performance as I say the guys all the time. That's secondary just let the weights be the weights every any given Sunday. Give it a week or two. You'll be back up to the weights you're pushing before. Don't sweat it. Do the routine. Get the chemicals flowing. Feel good. This is good. We're doing a good thing here. And then two or three weeks later Oh, I feel fantastic and you're crushing it again. And it's not supposed to be.Andrew Bracewell: Yeah, What's that? You always say this to me. Your cause, your muscles don't know that the weight they don't only whale the resistance. The only No intensity, right, Right, So you could be having a shitty day and whatever doing dumbbells at £70. And you know, you could do nineties or 100 but your your muscles don't know the difference between that. They're under full load and they're maxed out. That's all they know.Barry Ratzlaff: Fibers. They're they're doing that they're doing. They're very, very best for you at that point. And if they're doing their best, that's all they can do. It's your brain. That's the problem. Your brain sees the 60 on the dumbbells or the 80 and you start beating yourself up. What's your problem? look at that. You're a piece of sheer. So weak. Well, you need, sir. Beat yourself up likeAndrew Bracewell: No, don't do that. Like I haveBarry Ratzlaff: days. I tell guys I have days and actually learn this from from Schwarzenegger, cause I remember reading an article way back in the eighties about him and he and he said, Ah, there, days he goes. He's the first proponent that Ah, weightlifting is 80% mental. It's all in the mind. And so he said he'll come to that. He'd come to the gym and he kind of get his warm up, down and get ready in his first sets and realized I'm not here today mentally. And you'd leave. I'm like, What? No, no, no Pushed through. And it started to embrace that idea that Yeah, there's days when I go to the gym when I'm not present, so I'll walk in. I'll do my warm up. Something's not right. My head somewhere else. Go back to the house, live to fight another day. Come back the next day, feel a 1,000,000 bucks and crush it. So but my clients will that prove a can't just showAndrew Bracewell: up like you know what I don'tBarry Ratzlaff: feel so good. I'm gonna go and come back tomorrow, Uh, can't fit you in. But okay,Andrew Bracewell: so if you were to write a memoir or a book, as I alluded to earlier in which he spoken to you, you've spent a lot of time with a lot of high level people in a variety of industries. What would be the theme of that memoir in that? What would be your commentary on? Is there a similar thing that all of these humans do? Or is there a trait where you go? Yeah, they're totally unrelated. Different industries, different professions. But there's this one or two things that are just common. Is that Is that something that exists or no,Barry Ratzlaff: I would say the most pivotal piece and all that would be what they truly believe about themselves or what they truly have embraced about themselves. That someone else has taught them so for, ah, high achiever. For the most part, these people believe a they can do these things. They believe they're worthy of success. Um, when the money comes, they're okay with that. They know how to work with it. They can manage it. And they feel worthy of that. And when it comes to the gym, they kind of think, Yeah, I'm here because you know what you're doing. And if I work with you, this is gonna be fine. We're going to get somewhere vs a mind that's been beaten down. It doesn't believe anything good about itself and sees nothing but negative around itself. And all those things have a way of manifesting too, you know, financial trouble in relational trouble and all down and poured nutritional habits. The all our site Click it so and they'll spiral down in this pool so that you're spiraling up with positive self image or you're splattering down. And so there's one trait these guys would carry and the few women have worked with its Their minds are strong. They have their self image is intact and they believe good things about themselves. Not not cocky, kind of like you're you're just a dick about about yourself, but actually good, positive things that yeah, you're you're a good human, and what you bring to the table is valuable. It's worth something, and you have something to offer. And so they they believe that. And it has a way of manifesting in their life in success.Andrew Bracewell: It never ceases to amaze me how I feel like no matter what the topic in life, everything always boils down to the health of the brain. Oh, absolutely, it's just mind blowing. Absolutely. I think our world has opened up more to that conversation there. We're more aware of it now, so it's getting talked about more. But it's just fascinating to me that you could be talking about something that you think has nothing to do with the brain. And then at the end of the day, just it all boils down. Two to the health of the brain.Barry Ratzlaff: Mental health is it's a burgeoning field. It's crazy to say that because we've had self help books and psychology books around for for 50 years, but it is. It's a burgeoning field, in a sense that people are becoming aware that mental illness. Um, and we used to think mental illnesses like you belong in Riverdale like off to the mental house with you, right? But mental illness has got, you know, so many layers on so many levels, and whatever your level is, it's it's legit. What you're feeling what? The way you're talking to yourself, the voices in your head, the voice of your father in your head, voice of your boss in your head, all conspiring to this sort of ah stew of either positivity or some really, really nasty negativity that old don't have kept your life. It'll make you incapable of doing certain things and achieving certain things.Andrew Bracewell: And it's also possible that you can be feeling really shitty in your brain and down on yourself, and you don't have a mental illness. You're just in a really shitty state. And so what do you What do you say to somebody? Or what would you say to somebody? Because the majority of the world, I think it's not the people that have the healthy self image image right, and they struggle to find their fitness path and have confidence in the gym and eternal life Run. What do you What do you do with that? Like, what's the What's the first thing to try to overcome? If someone's just so they're shit kicking themselves so much in their head that even if they put the right thing in front of them, they're still gonna have a hard time because in their head they're just pieces of shit.Barry Ratzlaff: I think the first action step is get off social media. Stop looking at Instagram pictures of people who have perfect bodies and our purveying these perfect lives because that is such a negative thing for your brain. It's complete horseshit. It iss it's so, so destructive. And I think about our kids, Um, and not just teens. I think about kids. Your your kid's age. Yeah. Who are exposed to this already? Yeah, they're grading themselves from judge themselves against these images and thinking, Well, why don't I look that way? How come I don't have a $1,000,000 I'm 19 years old? You know, like Billy Isla? She's a millionaire and she's 19. Like how come I don't have that? It's so unhealthy. So the first thing I'd say to somebody who's struggling with self image stuff is stopped feeding yourself the negativity and it might come in is positivity like, Oh, this is a This this person has amazing instagram account. You've got all these things going that seems really positive, but you spend it and becomes negative because you're not those things get rid of that stuff. That's that's poison to your brain. Second, find to human beings that you know love and trust and hold on to their evaluation of you. They're the ones that matter so that your mom, your dad, your brother, your sister, your husband, your wife and they've been saying for years.Andrew Bracewell: What are you talking about? You're awesome. I loveBarry Ratzlaff: you. You're perfect. The way you are. Get the other voices out of your head. Hold onto to that. Say you're amazing and hold on to those because that's all accounts we had to pick her life. Who are you? You're you're champions for you. Your cheerleading section, You got everything that's the place to start. And then then once you kind of got your the the the atmosphere around your clear. Now start looking for examples of what you think you could be capable of, Like what I did back in the day when I went gym to gym and said, I want to talk to these guys because they're doing what I want to do. So why would I read a book or try to make it up myself when I could talk to them. They they're doing it right now in front of me. Find people who are doing what you think is, you know, lets your passion and you know that stuff that

Dr. Dawn MacLaughlin, author of the book “Food Fight!”, is a leading expert in holistic health and wellness. She holds several professional certifications, including ones in Food Psychology, Mind Body Nutrition, and Transformational Mindset coaching. Her passion is helping women unlock their next level of expansive confidence, radiant energy, and vibrant health by freeing them from stress and anxiety around weight, permanently transforming their relationship to food, and helping them develop an unshakeable mindset, so they can show up more powerfully in their business and in their life.

Ask Laura Moss what she’s passionate about, and she’ll tell you “I’m passionate about shifting the diet culture AWAY from the outdated science of calories in/calories out, restriction, and punishing exercise and TOWARD empowering women to bring awareness to the relationships they have with their bodies, with food, and with movement in order to make healing, nourishing choices for themselves.” I’ve had the wonderful honor of helping Laura grow her business and I can’t wait for you to meet her in this episode! We talk about fat-shaming, skinny-shaming, the idea of good v. bad food, how to bring awareness to your relationship with food and so much more! Grab your coffee and get ready for a great conversation that is sure to help you bring more awareness into your life. Connect with Laura: Laura Moss is a gifted and passionate wellness coach who has overcome many of her own health challenges (including breast cancer and a host of autoimmune issues) using the powerful and practical tools she generously shares with her amazing clients. She is an engaging speaker who seeks to encourage women to stand up and take up their space in the world by healing the relationships they have with their bodies, food, and wellness. She received her certifications in Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition from the Institute for Eating Psychology and is constantly researching new info to bring even more value and benefit to her brilliant clients. Connect with her online at www.nourish.coach Instagram: @nourish.coach Facebook: @nourish.coach1 Twitter: @CoachNourish Work with Mandy: Hang out with Mandy and her Bestie, Raychel, in their Private Facebook Community! Join the RAYMA Nation Facebook Group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/887216088309084/ Train yourself to bounce back after a hard day with our FREE Confidence Builder download at https://www.raymateam.com/confidencebuilder. Order Mandy’s book, She Who Overcomes: Rising Out of the Ashes of Your Circumstances, on Amazon! Get out of your own way with the RAYMA Foundations self-led online mini-course. It’s the most cost effective way to work with TWO Certified Life Coaches! Get started at https://www.raymateam.com/foundations. Become an EMERGE Member and join our Online Coaching Membership to emerge as your best self! Join today at https://www.raymateam.com/emerge. Hire Mandy B. Anderson to speak at your next event! Get the conversation started at https://www.raymateam.com/Speaking.

Many of you know that July was an intense month for me. I caught pneumonia, and my father passed away. I've been taking time to focus on my health and my family. That means that I'm taking a short break from recording new podcast episodes and sharing favorites from the archives that you might have missed. This episode tops that list! At its basic level, food is sustenance. It fuels us for life. But food is more than just a source of energy. Emotions surround the experience of eating as well. Food can comfort and bring joy, yet it can also inspire feelings of guilt. People also connect with each other over food, building memories, traditions, and even identities. And when you're following a healing diet, there’s gratitude for food being medicine, often combined with feelings of deprivation, rebellion and grief. It's complex! Here's the fascinating part you might not realize: Not only does food inspire emotion, but emotions impact our ability to digest our food, including how well we tolerate foods. That's the subject of our podcast today.

Let’s be real, it’s hard to stick to the diet plan right now. It’s Christmas, there are parties, and the weekends we are referring to seem to go for eight days at a time. But it is ALRIGHT! What is the point of being miserable with yourself during the most wonderful time of the year? The key is balance around the “off times” and not hating yourself for enjoying yourself. The book we refer to is “Mind/Body Nutrition” by Marc David https://www.audible.com/pd/Mind-Body-Nutrition-Audiobook/B00NO7UIE4?ds_rl=1262685&ds_rl=1263561&source_code=GO1GB908MSH060513&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8tCAnqqv3wIV1wOGCh0JRgwOEAAYASAAEgKyHfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Follow Lindsay @lynzsullivan Follow Dizzy @thedizzyparker

Join Dr Asha Dickerson and Dr Harrison Davis as they interview Kajal Patel, CNC and Margaret Schwenke! Kajal Patel, CNC, Owner is a graduate of the Advanced Clinical Training program of Nutrition Response TestingSM. This makes her one of only 594 masters of the technique in the country. For five years, she has been helping middle Georgia families improve their health through whole foods and nutrition. She has helped her community improve hormone function, handle stress and fatigue, lose healthy weight, and improve gut health. Kajal studied at the Natural Healing Institute in Encinitas, California. She did her graduate studies in Special Education at the George Washington University where she was on scholarship with the Literacy Collaborative Program. Not only is she an Advanced Nutrition Response TestingSM Practitioner, but she was a successful Special Educator who focused on intervention and nutrition from a holistic approach. She has thirteen years of experience in helping kids and adults with special needs through nutrition. Margaret Schwenke is a Certified Eating Psychology Counselor and Certified Holistic Health Coach with education in Culinary Arts, Mind Body Nutrition, Dynamic Eating Psychology and the Science of Willpower. Margaret helps her clients transform their relationship with food by helping them connect purpose and mindset to lifestyle choices. Margaret's passion lies in helping her clients restore a positive relationship with food and body and discover all of the sources of nourishment that create fulfillment in their lives. Margaret works with local Atlanta clients in her Buckhead office and helps women all over the world through her online coaching programs.

Emily is the CEO of the internationally acclaimed Institute for the Psychology of Eating – the ideal outlet for her passion for helping others heal and empower themselves around food, body and health. Her efforts and guidance have propelled the Institute into a global leader in online education. Emily oversees business development, marketing and public relations, social media strategies, student affairs, and operations. She’s also a popular senior teacher in Dynamic Eating Psychology and Mind Body Nutrition at the Institute.   This was recorded at her home in Colorado, enjoy!

Dr. Angela Thyer of Seattle Reproductive Medicine and Judy Simon of Mind Body Nutrition join Dr Aimee Eyvazzadeh to talk about strategies to support fertility through diet. Gluten, coffee, soda, white sugar, prenatal supplements, and more.

Jess is a Certified Eating Psychology Coach specializing in Functional Endocrinology and Mind/Body Nutrition. She empowers women in their quest to wholeness through healing solutions rooted in Integrative Care. You'll often find her lifting heavy things in the gym, trying to pet stranger's dogs, or writing some sass-filled #hormonehacks or #tabootuesday's on Instagram. She is passionate about helping women heal their hormones, break free of restrictive dieting, and feel at home in their bodies. Here are a few things we discussed in today’s episode: Her journey from yo yo dieting to wholistic health and self love She breaks it down with her science knowledge bombs and shares not just WHAT to do but WHY it's important to support our overall health Her experience with hypothyroidism, what it is and why 1 in 3 women have it The importance of advocating for yourself and your health Which programs/diets to stay away from when it comes to women's health The best foods to eat to heal your hormones and your gut Taboo tuesdays and getting nitty gritty with the "uncomfortable"  3 simple steps you can take to heal your hormones right away

FRIENDS. THIS EPISODE IS THE BOMB. So excited to bring you my interview with Jess Demasi. Jess is a Certified Eating Psychology Coach Specializing in Functional Endocrinology and Mind/Body Nutrition. She empowers women in their quest to wholeness through healing solutions rooted in Integrative Care. You'll often find her lifting heavy things in the gym, trying to pet stranger's dogs, or writing some sass-filled #hormonehacks on Instagram. She is passionate about helping women heal their hormones, break free of restrictive dieting, and feeling at home in their bodies.In this episode we dig into all.of.the.stuff. Everything from the best exercises for women (which includes yoga, WALKING, resistance training, and HITT) as well as the worst exercises for women (which includes chronic cardio .. holy mind blown right?!) and the biological impacts these specific exercises have on your body.We also dig into what it means to be connected to YOUR body, letting go of all of the worth we put into being a specific size, and finding movement that works for YOUR body on a day to day basis.Get ready for a conversation that is unlike the norm when it comes to exercise and diet culture… it’s good, good stuff ;) Resources From The Episode:The Best and Worst Types of Exercise for Women- Jess’s Blog PostThe Major Crack in Diet Culture LogicJess’s Instagram Pagejess@whollyhealed.com -Jess’s EmailAdditional Resources:Move with Radiance - Coaching Package InfoFree 30 Minute Coaching - Schedule yours!Newsletter SignupIf you are interested in being a guest on my podcast, email me at hello@stephanie-dankelson.com

  Dr. Dawn MacLaughlin is a Certified Eating Psychology Coach, a Certified Health Coach, and a Certified Transformational Coach, Mastery Level. She is the CEO and founder of Mind Body Nutrition Coaching (MindBodyNutritionCoaching.com).Her passion is helping women create a peaceful and empowering relationship with food and body. Through gentle Mind Body Nutrition and Transformational Coaching techniques, Dawn helps clients transform their health, and transform their life, so that they can truly step into their power and share their gifts with the world. As a self-described chronic binge-eating yo-yo dieter in recovery who has herself released over 100 lbs, Dawn is quite familiar with all the emotional charge around food, weight, and body.   What You’ll Learn in This Interview How to control eating with being relaxed How to regulate your appetite About mind body nutrition coaching program How to enjoy your food without a cellphone and how it affects our bodies …… and much more!   Episode tweetables “You’re malnourished if you’re under stress all the time!” Discussion with Dr. Dawn @DawnMacLaughlin  Listen here! http://bit.ly/2A9DazR #warrenhoneycutt #health #fitness #podcast “When you’re stressed your body is not able to fully absorb the nutrients” @DawnMacLaughlin Listen to this discussion on iTunes http://apple.co/2xQV05z #warrenhoneycutt #health #fitness #podcast Today we have the author of “Top Five Tips For A Healthier You!" @DawnMacLaughlin Listen here! http://bit.ly/2yzpWtj #warrenhoneycutt #health #fitness #podcast   Connect with Dr. Dawn: DawnMaclaughlin.com     Download this Episode & Subscribe on: iTunes Stitcher Spreaker Pocketcasts Google Music TuneIn     “To share insights from renowned Health, Nutrition and Fitness experts to enrich lives. To give truths and principles that allow Wholeness of Body, Mind and Spirit and pave a path to lives of abundance, energy, enthusiasm and passion!" - Warren Honeycutt

  As a self-described chronic binge-eating yo-yo dieter in recovery who has herself released over 100 lbs, Dr. Dawn MacLaughlin is a Certified Eating Psychology Coach, a Certified Health Coach, and a Certified Transformational Coach, Mastery Level. She is the CEO and founder of Mind Body Nutrition Coaching.Her passion is helping women create a peaceful and empowering relationship with food and body. Through gentle Mind Body Nutrition and Transformational Coaching techniques, Dawn helps clients transform their health, and transform their life, so that they can truly step into their power and share their gifts with the world.   What You’ll Learn in This Interview How Dawn took motivation from her own weight loss and started helping others How to change our body weight with diet and mind power especially What’s the proper ratio of diet and exercise and Dawn explained if there is a good fit out there How Dawn helps people with Stress and Emotional Eating …… and much more!   Episode tweetables "We always look for someone else to change us, when the change has to come from within" Dr. Dawn @MindBodyNut  http://bit.ly/2zIGC1Q #warrenhoneycutt #health #fitness #podcast All about weight loss and proper diet! Dr. Dawn @MindBodyNut http://apple.co/2xQV05z #warrenhoneycutt #health #fitness #podcast “If your body isn't getting the nutrients it needs - that's when the cravings come in!” Dr. Dawn @MindBodyNut  http://bit.ly/2yzpWtj #warrenhoneycutt #health #fitness #podcast   Connect with Dr. Dawn: MindBodyNutritionCoaching.com DawnMaclaughlin.com   Download this Episode & Subscribe on: iTunes Stitcher Spreaker Pocketcasts Google Music TuneIn     “To share insights from renowned Health, Nutrition and Fitness experts to enrich lives. To give truths and principles that allow Wholeness of Body, Mind and Spirit and pave a path to lives of abundance, energy, enthusiasm and passion!" - Warren Honeycutt

Did you know that digestion starts in the brain? That relaxing before a meal releases more digestive enzymes? Why do we sometimes tolerate a wider variety of foods on vacation, and tolerate fewer foods when we're under stress? When we're using food as medicine, how do we navigate feelings of fear, grief, and deprivation and find joy in eating again? The mind-body connection is real, and nowhere is that more clear than when it comes to diet and nutrition. In this podcast, we answer these questions and more.

In this interview we talk with Joe Bernstein from Drop the Armor. We cover how much weight you can lose with minimal workouts, what it takes to lose those last few pounds, and how your mind plays a roll in all of it. Joe goes in depth about the psychological aspects of weight loss. Enjoy! https://www.facebook.com/dropthearmor/ http://www.dropthearmor.com https://twitter.com/joebernstein81