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Jeff Wetzler: Ask Jeff Wetzler is co-Founder Transcend, a nationally recognized innovation organization, and an expert in learning and human potential. His experience spans 25+ years in business and education, as a management consultant to top corporations, a learning facilitator for leaders, and as Chief Learning Officer at Teach For America. He's the author of Ask: Tap Into the Hidden Wisdom of People Around You for Unexpected Breakthroughs in Leadership and Life*. We place our organizations at risk when we miss stuff. Often, the things we miss aren't what we don't know. Instead, they are the assumptions we don't even question. In this conversation, Jeff and I explore the practices that work to find what's missing. Key Points Hidden feedback cues: Repeated questions or suggestions about seemingly small details. Increased involvement in tactical decisions. Unexpected decreases in engagement. Benefits of curiosity: When We're Curious About People, They Like Us More Curiosity begets curiosity. Curiosity creates empathy. Curiosity makes us more resilient. Curiosity sparks: What might I be missing? How else might someone interpret the situation? How might I be impacting them? What can I learn from this person? Resources Mentioned Ask: Tap Into the Hidden Wisdom of People Around You for Unexpected Breakthroughs in Leadership and Life* by Jeff Wetzler Ask Approach How to Recognize “Hidden Feedback” (Harvard Business Review) by Jeff Wetzler The Curiosity Coach In Your Pocket (Psychology Today) by Jeff Wetzler Related Episodes How to Inspire More Curiosity, with Shannon Minifie (episode 520) How to Help Others Be Seen and Heard, with Scott Shigeoka (episode 654) Make it Easier to Discuss Hard Things, with Jeff Wetzler (episode 679) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.
Curiosity is more than just asking questions—it's a mindset that can break barriers, foster empathy, and fuel innovation. In this episode of the Positive Leadership Podcast, I sit down with Scott Shigeoka, a leading expert on curiosity and the author of Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. Scott shares how deep curiosity can help us connect with others across differences, navigate uncertainty with resilience, and unlock new opportunities for growth—both in leadership and in life. From personal stories to practical tools, this conversation will inspire you to cultivate curiosity as a leadership superpower.
How many calories do you burn up just eating and digesting the food you eat? It's an interesting question and the answer depends on what kind of food you are eating. Listen as I reveal the basics of what is called the Thermic Effect.https://www.revolution-pts.com/blog/understanding-the-thermic-effect-of-food The amount of data being collected about you every hour is staggering – detailed, intimate data. What may be more shocking is how that data is used to psychologically target you. Joining me to explain what that is and how it works is Sandra Matz. She is a professor at Columbia Business School and has an informative TED talk about the use of psychological targeting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkI_TrPmKgA). She is also author of the book Mindmasters: The Data-Driven Science of Predicting and Changing Human Behavior (https://amzn.to/4gGaTCc). In most of our everyday interactions, our questions are fairly shallow: “Hi, are you?” “What's going on?” “What kind of work do you do?” etc. Yet, if you go a little deeper and get a bit more curious with people, it can pay off for you in a very big way. This is according to Scott Shigeoka. He is a leading expert on the topic of curiosity. He is a lecturer at the University of Texas at Austin and author of a book called Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World (https://amzn.to/4gQDbKr). Are you one of those people who cherishes the few extra minutes of sleep the snooze alarm gives you? Listen as I reveal some interesting facts about the snooze and why you may not want to use it too much https://www.rd.com/article/why-is-snooze-9-minutes/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Author Scott Shigeoka has spent a lot of time being curious about curiosity. It started with a trip across the country, meeting people with very different views than him and finding ways to build connections across political lines. In his book Seek: How Curiosity can Transform Your Life and Change the World, Scott describes ways to bring curiosity to our lives and our relationships. There’s many ways to build curiosity. It may even be contagious! But there are also several deterrents to curiosity, or curiosity killers. But becoming more curious could start with challenging our own thinking. GUEST: Scott Shigeoka: author of Seek: How Curiosity can Transform Your Life and Change the World Where We Live is available as a podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, TuneIn, Listen Notes, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe and never miss an episode.Support the show: http://wnpr.org/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Curiosity is about seeking what unites us rather than clinging to what divides us, says author and curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka. Drawing on his research into fostering connection and healing division, he shares what he learned traveling across the US meeting people with views opposing his own — and shows why recognizing our shared humanity begins with getting curious.
Curiosity is about seeking what unites us rather than clinging to what divides us, says author and curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka. Drawing on his research into fostering connection and healing division, he shares what he learned traveling across the US meeting people with views opposing his own — and shows why recognizing our shared humanity begins with getting curious.
Curiosity is about seeking what unites us rather than clinging to what divides us, says author and curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka. Drawing on his research into fostering connection and healing division, he shares what he learned traveling across the US meeting people with views opposing his own — and shows why recognizing our shared humanity begins with getting curious.
Humans tend to crave certainty. In the face of the unknown, we rely on prescriptions and narratives to help us feel better and make sense of what we can't yet see coming.For many, sitting with uncertainty like what we are facing now, post-election in the United States, is deeply unsettling and even destabilizing. They brace for what might come next, anxious and ruminating, and looking for answers. It's a natural human response, but it can also leave us stuck in a loop that offers no comfort, only more fear and anxiety.People will look to the leaders around them for comfort and for answers. And while you may not be able to provide the definitive answers anyone seeks, you can help those you lead and love feel supported and grounded as we all navigate these difficult times.Today, I'm sharing strategies, practices, and thoughts that can help us move through uncertainty, for ourselves and the ones we love and lead.Listen to the full episode to hear:How and why to establish “certainty anchors” for those you leadWhy an honest, compassionate presence is more beneficial than pretending you have all the answersWhy we need to balance courage and comfort, and the fine line between caring and caretakingWhy finding grounding routines is essential, no matter how small or scrappy or imperfectHow claiming your personal power and agency will help you feel less stuckHow we build trust and resilience in our relationships amidst uncertaintyLearn more about Rebecca:rebeccaching.comWork With RebeccaFollow the Unburdened Leader on SubstackSign up for the weekly Unburdened Leader EmailResources:Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead, Brené BrownEP 114: Why Bother? Navigating Burnout and Rediscovering Purpose with Jennifer LoudenEP 88: Right-Use-of-Power: Navigating Leadership Dynamics with Dr. Cedar BarstowDiary of a Freelancer, Amanda JonesHope, Despair, and Wellbeing Intelligence - by Jen FisherEP 117: Rethinking Resilience: Moving from Bouncing Back to Relational Resilience with Soraya ChemalyEP 113: Curiosity as a Bridge: Uncovering Fears and Building Connections with Scott Shigeoka
The election is over and, is spite of Trump's clear victory, America remains as divided as ever. So how to put the country together again? Juliana Tafur, the director of the Bridging Differences Program at UC Berkeley, has been giving this existential question much thought. What all Americans need, Tafur tells me, is the compassion, empathy and humility to understand the other side. But, as I asked her, isn't that just shorthand for a progressive bridge building project in which the left defines the language of a reunited America?Juliana Tafur, the director of the Bridging Differences Program at UC Berkeley Her work focuses on strengthening social connections across lines of race, religion, culture, politics, and more, to foster a culture of understanding and belonging in the United States and beyond. Through partnerships, multimedia content, speaking engagements, and workshops, Juliana is committed to ensuring that bridge-building skills and resources reach people and inspire meaningful change. With experience as a social entrepreneur, workshop creator, Emmy-nominated senior producer, and award-winning documentary filmmaker, she has been working to foster human connection across complex societal divides for more than a decade. A TEDx speaker, she has led and facilitated speaking engagements and training sessions on bridging differences at more than 30 higher education institutions and organizations. Juliana is also a 2021–2022 Obama Foundation Scholar at Columbia University—a mid-career fellowship that recognized and deepened her work in the bridge-building field, expanding her research on intergroup relations, political polarization, and conflict transformation. She is an honors graduate of Northwestern University, where she earned dual Bachelor of Science degrees in Journalism and History.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.TRANSCRIPTKEEN: Hello, everybody. The easy bit's over! The election's finished, now the real challenge is bringing America back together. We always hear these terms from politicians and activists, but in practice, of course, it's a very challenging thing to do. My guest today on the show, Juliana Tafur, though, is somebody who's given a great deal of thought to bringing America back together, bridging differences. She is the inaugural director of the Bridging Differences Program at UC Berkeley. She's also very much involved in the Denver Foundation. She's based in Boulder, Colorado, and she's joining us today. Juliana, is that fair? Was the election the easy bit? Now, the challenge is putting Humpty Dumpty back together again?TAFUR: 100%. I love the Humpty Dumpty. Yes, we are broken. How do we come back together and mend those pieces while still acknowledging the brokenness, right? Yeah. With that analogy, there's a beautiful Japanese technique that aims to cover the fractures, but to cover the fractures with a strand of gold so that we're not pretending like the fractures aren't there, but we are making something better as a result of the recognition of those fractures.KEEN: Juliana, we've done a lot of shows about this sort of thing. In fact, I've worked with the Braver Angels group. I'm sure you're familiar with them. I have been to a couple of their conferences. There are more and more of these groups trying to bring Americans back together. Might one suggest that there is now a broader movement in America to bring Americans of different--particularly different political persuasions back together? You're doing it, braver angels are doing it. Many of the thousands of activists and hundreds of groups.TAFUR: Yeah. There is so many of us across the country that work tirelessly day in and day out, around elections and before and after elections to make sure we come together. And yes, Braver Angels is just one of them. I could certainly give you a list that you could attach to the show notes, because a lot of us are doing this work and it's good for people to know that we're out there and that this is possible. But sometimes it takes seeing it in action and understanding how to do it to really trust that you can do it, too.KEEN: Yeah, we've had lots of people on the show. I know you're familiar with the work of Eboo Patel. You've worked with him his book couple of years ago. We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy is another example of this kind of work. Tell me what you do at the Greater Good Science Center at UC Berkeley. What are you doing that's different or unusual or unique in terms of bringing Americans back together?TAFUR: Yeah, well, at the Greater Good Science Center, we study the psychology, sociology and neuroscience of well-being, or what we'd like to call the science of a meaningful life. And we break the science to the practice. So we take the science of how to have a meaningful life or how to bridge differences, and we translate it in a way that is accessible to people to apply in their own lives or to practitioners to help others apply the science. And in the bridging differences programs specifically, we do this through a series of videos, multimedia pieces that we publish in our magazine, Greater Good. We have a famous podcast called The Science of Happiness. We began in earnest in 2018, I would say, gathering what the science said about how to bring people together across differences. And when we talk about the science, we talk about skills, science-based skills, from compassionate listening to finding shared identities, etc., that have been tested in labs, and we translate them in a way that people understand how some of these skills applied, how they worked in labs, and how they can then work also in kind of real-life scenarios and situations. So we have a bridging differences playbook that has 14 science-based skills for bridging differences. We have an edX course that's free and available for everyone to take that also disseminates some of the science-based skills.KEEN: Tell me a little bit more about yourself. You've been involved in this space for a while. You're also a filmmaker, so you're very much committed on lots of fronts to this. How did you find yourself? Is this a reflection of your own upbringing, your own experience in the United States?TAFUR: Absolutely, yes. What you had up first was the page from the Obama Scholars Program. So a few years ago, 21, 22, I was an Obama scholar at Columbia University--KEEN: And you were the founder, at least at that point, of something called Story Powerhouse. I'm guessing you're still the founder, although you've moved on in a sense.TAFUR: Correct. Yeah. And Story Powerhouse was at the company Listen Courageously, which was a workshop series that I took around to universities and organizations and corporations talking about the power of empathic listening. And I got to that through film that I produced and directed that brought Americans together on opposite ends of the spectrum across the easy topics of abortion, guns and immigration. And the inspiration for this film came after the 2016 election. I felt a big need back then to try to bridge the divide that I was seeing and feeling, very explicitly, for the very first time in our country. And as a Colombian-American, I was beginning to talk to folks in my circles, and I was feeling this this real sense of othering that I had never, ever experienced and wondering and questioning what was my place and that of so many others like me in our country. And that led to to Listen, to this film that brought three sets of participants across these really tough topics together to explore if they could see each other as people and connect on a human level despite their differences. And I had no idea what the outcome would be. I had documented their conversations across a period of time. And I was truly moved by what I saw. I saw that those who were able to connect at a deep, human level were those who were able to listen. So then, that led me to study and explore and understand the power of listening and understood that it was a field. It's an arts, but it's also a science and connected with practitioners, but also researchers in the field of listening. And one thing led to the other, right? As a practitioner and filmmaker in the field of bridging differences, I found myself going back to intergroup relations and conflict transformation and other subjects too, to really understand why. Why was it that my film participants had come together, and how could I then equip others to continue doing the same? Less from a "we know this is possible" and more from a kind of research-grounded way.KEEN: Juliana, some people might be listening to this and...whilst on the one hand being, in a way, impressed they might be scratching their head, maybe listening to you, you use the E-word all the time empathetic, which is quite a kind of ideological character these days. You talk about othering, you're funded by, or you were funded by, the Obama Foundation. Now you head up a greater good institute at UC Berkeley, People's Republic of Berkeley, which is a place I know all too well, I used to live there for many years. Some people might be listening to this and thinking if you scratch the surface of what Juliana's saying, is she suggesting that this is the progressive version of the greater good? And as long as you're in our camp and you use her words like "empathy" and "othering" and love the Obamas and spend time at UC Berkeley, it's fine. But when you start perhaps putting red caps on and talking about America becoming great again or not being particularly sympathetic to immigrants, then you're outside your world. How would you respond to that? Is that a fair criticism or am I wrong, or would one be wrong?TAFUR: Well, obviously, people's criticisms are their criticisms, and that's absolutely okay. And there is no right or wrong. I just want to say--KEEN: Well, there is right and wrong, Juliana, isn't there? There's some things are certainly more right than wrong and some things are more wrong and right.TAFUR: Yes, but we don't judge that. I think, you know, people are right to believe what they believe, vote for who they vote, and be who they are. And we start bridging from the place of: I see you, and I hear you, and I might not understand you, but that's okay. I still don't dehumanize you. And that's the spirit of bridging differences. And yes, I don't hide where I stand. Politically, I am more progressive. And I have been an Obama scholar. And I work at Berkeley. So all of that is who I am. And from that place, I bridge. I bridge from the place of this is who I am, where I stand. I still love you and I still want to get to know you. And I still want to see you. And I just want to say, given that I'm Colombian American and I lived in Miami for the last ten years, I just recently moved to Boulder, Colorado, to lead a statewide initiative here in the state of Colorado called Belonging Colorado to make Colorado a place where everyone feels like they belong. Thank you for popping it up.KEEN: Called Belonging Colorado.TAFUR: Yeah, in Florida, I mean, I've had friends and neighbors who don't think like I do, who don't see the world like I do. And I've appreciated that. And I have not excluded them from our circles, from trying deeply to learn and understand what is it that they believe, what they believe. So I intentionally have made way to understand our country and and to try to tap into, honestly, what at the end of the day, are people's fears of what we need. And I approach them from that place. When you approach others from a place of "we are all walking with our fears in our foreheads," we begin to connect with your fear, my fear. But it's all fear and it's okay.KEEN: You used the term "humanizing differences," Juliana. Some people, again, might be listening and thinking to themselves, well, the guy who just won the election, more Americans voted for him than the other candidate. It's quite a decisive election. He doesn't seem to be in the business of "humanizing differences." In fact, many of the people he doesn't like, he seems, some people believe, I tend to be sympathetic there, he's dehumanizing them. So. So what do we do in an America, where the next president is, or appears to be, very often in the business of dehumanization?TAFUR: Hopefully we take back the narrative.KEEN: What does that mean, "take back the narrative"? He's been elected. It's his narrative.TAFUR: It is his narrative. But as people I don't believe that everyone who voted for him is voting for the dehumanization. I am holding firm to the belief that people are good, and that people have voted for other things and not for that. And I want people who voted for him to still see that we need to humanize each other despite our differences. And I believe that they do. I do not believe people are buying into that narrative and rhetoric. At least not everyone. Some may. But I think when we take back the narrative, we take back the narrative of: yes, right now there's a winning camp and a losing camp, and that's okay. And I would hope that those in the winning camp also want to see across differences and are reaching out to humanize those who are not in the winning camp. And, you know, that is now that is four years. But our country perseveres and continues and we are interdependent and need each other. Absolutely need each other. More than this rhetoric, more than the divisive politics. Politics is just one aspect of who we are.KEEN: There are others. I mean, you acknowledge that you're a progressive. There are other progressives who are preparing to resist the new--what they see as a regime, some people even think that the new president is a fascist. What would you say to resistors, people who don't believe that it's possible to, as you would put it, reshape the narrative or seize the narrative, that that the next president is in the business of dehumanizing many people, particularly people out of America and many people in America. And it's just pointless and that they're going to fight him, they're going to fight him in the courts, and maybe even on the streets.TAFUR: I don't think that's the way. I don't stand for that. And I'm also trying to bring those people along. I think the only way out of hate, sincerely, and I know it sounds cliche, but it's through love. I don't believe in resistance in that way. I am for peace and I will continue to promote peace. And I know that that is hard for people in the far left to also swallow. And I know it takes time and I know not everyone is there right now, especially right now. And not everyone will be there ever. And that's okay, too. We understand that bridging is not the right thing for every person in every situation. We know that a lot of people who feel that their identity is in danger or that they're being disrespected might not be called to bridge differences. And that is also okay. I don't think this is work that you do by demand. And and we know that it's not without risks. We know that it involves exposing vulnerability. And we also know that sometimes bridging work takes small shifts over time. What we like to call small to large, or big, bridges. Sometimes you don't start with the biggest bridge possible bridging across the biggest divide. So we know that it's work that requires the right mindsets and skills and attitudes, and that takes time.KEEN: You've used the word bridge a lot, bridging as a noun, as an adjective. I seem to remember Bill Clinton was very much in the, at least the etymological bridge building business. He would always talk about it. Are examples of American politicians in the past who have successfully built bridges? I mean, Clinton wanted to, of course, he had his own controversial personal narrative that didn't help. But when you look back into the American past, who are the bridging presidents? FDR, Teddy Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Lincoln?TAFUR: Yeah, those, and I would say, you know, yes, I may I'm totally biased because I am funded, have been funded, by the Obama Foundation. But sincerely, President Obama has taken bridging and pluralism, as he called it, as the work that he is doing, that he is centering on after his presidency, and he runs these democracy summits that happen once a year. And and it is a message that he deeply believes in and is trying to share with others.KEEN: Yeah, I mean, doesn't everyone bridge on their own terms? Obama campaigned aggressively for Harris. And in fact, a lot of people believe that Trump never would have got involved in politics had Obama not given him such a violent roasting at one of the White House correspondence evenings a few years ago. So isn't Obama an example of someone who bridges when they feel like it and when they don't, they accuse other people of not bridging?TAFUR: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I prefer not to get into politics. I do bridging differences work because I am equipping folks with the skills to be able to do this work. And I believe in humans. So so this is really not about politics for me. It never was. It never will be. I happen to be an Obama scholar, but I'd really rather not comment on what politicians are or not doing.KEEN: And I take your point, Juliana. But politics and the founders knew this, the politics in and out of America, is a dirty business. We pursue our own interests. Madison called them the pursuit of faction. That's why we have divisions, that's why we have branches of government which are designed to negate each other. Just as Madison so famously said, so profoundly said, "If men were angels (and he did say, man, he didn't say women as well, of course), if men were angels, there'd be no need for government." And I wonder whether...and again, I don't want a group for your movements or your thinking into one, but I wonder whether this kind of ambivalence, hostility, maybe even contempt for politics is problematic. When I think of someone like Michelle Obama, I have to admit I'm very, very disappointed that she didn't choose to enter into politics. She seems to be political when she feels like it. But not to participate in politics, she was probably the only person in America could have beaten Trump. Again, I don't want to turn this into a conversation about either Obama's. But my question to you is about acknowledging the dirtiness of politics, which reflects the dirtiness of the human condition, the fact that we all are, for better or worse, self-interested. Do you accept that Madisonian version of human nature?TAFUR: I honestly think there is a better future for us when we tap into what we can be and not what we are. And I know it's hard for many to do right now. And it's hard when what we see as reality is what politicians do. And I do see some examples of politics where people are coming together that I'd like to highlight, including Governor Spencer Cox. And he's led a national campaign called Disagree Better. And he's come on ads with Governor Jared Polis from--KEEN: Colorado, yeah?TAFUR: Colorado. And Governor Cox is out of Utah, Republican. Jared Polis is a Democrat from Colorado. And I think we need more of that. We need more examples of that, politicians coming together and showing how they are coming together so that we believe that it's also possible. So I'd like to hang on to those examples in the political realm. But again, I'm in the business of what we individuals can do at the interpersonal level to begin to cultivate the right skills and mindsets, to be able to come together and at the inter group level with others.KEEN: There's been a lot of conversation, debate after this election, Juliana, like many elections, about why and how people should vote. Should they vote out of self-interest or for the the greater good? Lots of comments about many of the people vote voting for Trump seem to be voting against their own interests, particularly the new American working class. Whereas the coastal elites in voting for Harris seem also in an odd way to be voting against their own--certainly economic--interests by voting for her, in your view, to get to this bridge and this ability to be empathetic and converse with others, do we need to overcome our own self-interest, particularly our own economic self-interest?TAFUR: I don't think you need to overcome your own economic self-interests to bridge. Not at all. Because when we bridge differences, we are not asking honestly people to leave aside any of what they value. It centers on this recognition of, yes, common humanity, which I know is very abstract to a lot of people. But it is not about persuasion and it does not require you compromising your beliefs or values. It just requires the ability for you to recognize that anyone, anyone can teach you something, which is a term called intellectual humility. So, no, not to bridge. I mean, you may be putting your self-interest aside, or some of your self-interests, aside when you're voting for certain candidates. But to bridge, we are just coming together to see each other and to be with each other.KEEN: You talk about intellectual humility. That word again, humility is another fashionable word that goes with empathy. Is there, do you think, a religious context to this? Do you think some of these movements, maybe yours, maybe even yourself, it grew out of a religious tradition. A Christian tradition? Humility, empathy, love, understanding. These are words that are traditionally used in religion.TAFUR: Yes, they are. I will say that we have not necessarily emphasized or called attention to these character virtues and moral virtues in our work. We do talk about them a lot and we will probably emphasize them a bit more moving forward, given interest that we have in doing so, because we do think that when you talk about civil, moral character virtues like respect and curiosity and courage, you are meeting different types of people at different places. And at the end of the day, this is about becoming better people.KEEN: Say that again: this is about becoming better people. So, it's a moral movement. You're suggesting people need to pull their their moral socks up if we're going to put Humpty Dumpty, to extend this rather childish metaphor, if we're if we're to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, we need to pull our moral socks up. Is that fair?TAFUR: Yeah. I mean, we believe that cultivating these virtues is not just about overcoming current societal divides, but about nurturing a deep commitment to, for a lack of a better word, the greater good. This is what this is about.KEEN: I don't know how many jobs you have, Juliana. I'm lucky enough that I don't have multiple jobs, but some people, again, might be watching this and saying this is all very well. Maybe in some biblical fantasy land, we can all put ourselves out and be better people. But most people are really busy. Many, particularly, working class people who perhaps voted for Trumo, they're working 2 or 3 jobs. They're busy. They struggle to pay their rent, feed their families. Does this require to be part of your bridging movement? Does it require, shall we say, moral...concentration? Or could you do it...occasionally?TAFUR: Absolutely. You can do it occasionally. You can do it in the weekend. You can do it with neighbors. You could do it at a school board meeting. You could do it in neighborhood meetings. You could do it wherever you are. You could do it at work. You could do it with colleagues. You could do it with your kids. It does not require more than anything that you are already doing. It's just about how you approach those who are in your circles and in your life.KEEN: What's the most difficult thing? You do this a lot. You run bridging programs. You run a school, essentially, designed to help people bridge. What does the movement most struggle with? When you see people who are open to the idea and say, you're right, I need to be able to talk responsibly with humility and empathy to people who I don't agree with on the other political side, culturally, racially, and all the rest of it. What do people most struggle with, what don't they expect? What would you warn people about who are trying to get into a movement like this?TAFUR: We are very clear that if the other person is dehumanizing you, and if you feel at risk or threatened by this dehumanization, that you should probably be careful in engaging. So that's where we draw the line.KEEN: Yeah, but then you're shifting the responsibility to somebody else. I mean, obviously, if they're dehumanizing you, you wouldn't want to talk to them. But what's hard about changing oneself, that's possible, that doesn't involve the other?TAFUR: I think this just requires the commitment to want to do it and then the right skills. To engage with it in a way that you see works, that feels good, and that invites you to continue trying it out. And all it takes is the willingness to say, "I'm exhausted by this. This is affecting me personally." Because we do know that our divides are consuming us. They're affecting our health, our well-being. We also know our divides are affecting our families and our closest circles. We know that our divides affect our children in schools. So there are many, many reasons for wanting to bridge, for saying, "this is enough. I am exhausted." And if you are, you are not alone. Three. Out of four Americans are. 75% of Americans in the most conservative estimates say they are exhausted by the division.KEEN: Exhausted by just this endless controversy of people not being able to talk to one another?TAFUR: Yeah. Research tells us that three out of four Americans see political hostility and divisiveness as a serious problem and want to live in a less polarized country. So we are just trying to meet that exhausted majority where they are. Because we do know that people value diverse perspectives. Again, research points to this, and a desire to shift the political discourse. So we're telling them: we hear you. We see you. Yes, this division hurts us. Let's do something about it. Do you need some skills? We got you.KEEN: Juliana, I asked you about other examples from American history. What about models from the rest of the world in these kinds of conversations? You often hear about the the reconciliation, the truth and reconciliation movement and Mandela, South Africa. Are there models overseas, which Americans can learn from? Americans often aren't very good at learning from other countries, particularly in Africa. But is the South African model a good one, do you think?TAFUR: Yes. I mean, clearly, they were able to come together across incredible fracture and division, and they were able to persevere and collaborate across differences. There is also the model in Ireland that we can point to. There is division that is hurting countries across the world right now. And I know ,I come from a country that is deeply divided, Colombia. And Colombians have also succeeded in bridging the great divide. But there's been strides, through peace treaties and others, to come together despite differences. So we can certainly learn from other countries that have been deeply divided and in deep conflict and have come together. We are not in a place in the US where our conflict has turned violent, thankfully, at least not openly. We are seeing signs of violence, but we are not in the midst of a war (although it seems like a moral war in many regards.) And and I do want to point to the hope that countries who have been in deeper fractures about how this is possible and and hopefully also show us that we must do something before the fracture goes wider and deeper. And where reconciliation seems harder to do.KEEN: Juliana, you mentioned Ireland. One of the things that comes to mind in the Irish model is the role of citizen assemblies in bringing people together to talk about very difficult issues. You brought up abortion, guns and immigration, in the U.S., the three most divisive issues, probably abortion, was and maybe still remains the most divisive in Roman Catholic Ireland. But the Citizens' Assembly movement in Ireland addressed the issue of abortion, and that was the way for the Irish parliament to actually develop some some quite interesting new legislation on abortion. Are you sympathetic to rethinking institutions, political institutions, political organizations like the Citizens' Assembly? Is this something that you've thought about, researched, is it part of a greater good future?TAFUR: Yeah, I mean, I do think we need to re-imagine. I do think we need to take good examples, including citizens' assemblies and in understand what's going to work for all of us. We know what we're doing now is not working for all of us. What does it take? How can we bring folks together to the conversation in a way that is bringing us all together? So, I do think bringing a diverse group of citizens to engage in structured dialogue, learn from experts, and also deliberate over complex topics could be the way. Maybe that's what we need. Maybe we do need more public participation in the democratic process in a way that ultimately ends up shaping legislation. And it does align with our bridging differences program, right? And and what we promote in in bringing people in and fostering inclusivity. So how can we bring different backgrounds together in structured discussions so that we can move beyond these partisan divides? Because we do understand that some of these issues do provoke, I would say, a really strong emotional response and and also carry significant social implications for folks.KEEN: Juliana Tafur, you've you've done very well with, my rather obnoxious question. So let's end with an opportunity for you to talk about, quite literally, where we go from here. You have some articles on your website, on the Bridging Differences website about where do we go from here, after the election. Perhaps you might touch on 3 or 4 bullets--concrete things of where we go from here in in early November 2024 that can bridge America, that can bring us back together. What would you suggest that's doable, viable, can be achieved in the next few months?TAFUR: It's great that you point to that article. I was obviously part of a group of us at the Greater Good Science Center that was very keen on publishing this the day after the election to--KEEN: And now you're on--I couldn't resist this one, Juliana, now you're on KEEN ON. I'm sorry for that rather silly joke, but anyway. Go on.TAFUR: Yep, yep, yep. Well, let me just, like, run through a bit of what some of the experts and researchers who we invited to be a part of this article with what they said.KEEN: And that included Eboo Patel, who, as I said, has been on the show. So you put together a very interesting group of people to write this thing.TAFUR: Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, so Eboo is saying keep doing what matters to you and the world, and he's trying to get us away from this catastrophe mindset, and he wants to remind us that what you are doing is sacred and it makes a difference. And even if the world is going to end, he says, the wisdom of the sages says to keep doing your meaningful work, because that work is part of the saving grace of humanity. So that was beautiful. Scott Shigeoka, who's a bridging differences fellow at the Greater Good Science Center, is inviting us to practice curiosity as an act of love. And for Scott, he says that we must practice curiosity if we want to transform our fear and hate. And he's reminding us that curiosity is a trait that we are all born with, and it's the desire to understand others more deeply. Again, this does not mean agreeing with views that clash with your own, but challenging the assumptions that you have about people who hold those views. So a lot about interrupting prejudice. Jeremy Smith, who's our editor at The Greater Good, he's inviting us to work to promote your values in community. I'll go high level on some of these. Get to know other humans, right? Get out of our silos as much as we can and connecting across our differences. Dr. Linda Traub, who is a close collaborator of ours, is inviting us to be good neighbors, even, and especially, to those who are different. So those are just a few. Choose nuance, not outrage. So I do invite folks to go through this article and and hopefully a few of the golden nuggets of inspiration do stay with you, do motivate you, to do something. It's been hard for many of us to understand what is it that we can do right now if bridging even is the calling of the moment when so many are struggling to understand what this means about our country, what this means about the next four years. But I understand others are not and are celebrating. Regardless of where you are, I think in a few weeks when you feel up for it, I think the calling of our times is to come together and to understand, again, our interdependence. We must break this cycle of othering us versus them. That does that does not exist. Those are constructs that that we have created. But we are better and we are more. And we are one. And sorry if this sounds cliche to some, but that's what I got for you.KEEN: That's interesting. And finally, Juliana, you mentioned one of your colleagues talked about what they would do if the world was to end tomorrow, what they would do this evening. It certainly reflects on you. I know if I knew the world was going to end tomorrow, I would go to Kentucky Fried Chicken. But that probably speaks of my own unsuitability for your movement. What would you do if you knew the world was ending tomorrow?TAFUR: I would speak to you, Andrew.KEEN: Oh my god, we can go together to the Kentucky Fried Chicken. Well, Juliana, it's been a real honor to have you on the show. Very interesting conversation, we're going to get you back on because this--one thing we can say for sure is this issue is not going away in 2024, 2025, 2026. Keep up the good work, Juliana, and we'll talk again in the not too distant future. Thank you so much.TAFUR: Thank you, Andrew. Thank you.For those impressed with what Julianna Tafur is doing and would like to participate, here are a couple of ideas:* Ready to turn division into connection? The Greater Good Science Center's 7-Day Campaign for Connection Challenge offers practical, research-based skills to ease stress and create understanding. Reserve your spot: http://tinyurl.com/7DayChallenge24* Feeling the weight of division this election season? You're not alone! Join the @Greater Good Science Center's 7-Day Campaign for Connection Challenge, to help you navigate these polarized times with science-backed skills. Reserve your place: http://tinyurl.com/7DayChallenge24Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. 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Election season often highlights a range of hot-button topics, from abortion to immigration, which becomes trickier to navigate when conversations pop up with friends or at the dinner table. While we're often told to be curious about other perspectives, many of us do not know where to start. Worse, we don't know how to stay curious about issues that elicit our strong opinions. In this interview, curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka shares his research and in-the-field experience using curiosity to navigate polarizing issues. Scott talks about the personal benefits experience when people are curious. He goes on to talk about how people can become more curious and why maintaining boundaries and earning the right to be curious are important. He finishes the discussion by sharing what he learned on a year-long, 4,500 mile “curiosity journey” across the United States that gave him the opportunity to meet, talk with, and connect with people from a wide variety of backgrounds. Scott Shigeoka is a globally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the award-winning author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He popularizes research that promotes positive well-being and relationships, including at UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. He has spoken at universities, schools, companies, and conferences around the world. He is also a screenwriter and playwright.
How does curiosity show up in your life, work, and relationships?Does your curiosity influence your strategy or planning? Or do you follow your curiosity to gain more knowledge or deepen your understanding of topics or viewpoints? Do you lean on curiosity to help you get to know someone better in ways that satisfy your interests or deepen your connection?Do you keep following your curiosity even if it leads to uncomfortable or unknown places?Our curiosity can reveal much about us, our interests, and our capacity for hope, discomfort, and imagination. But just as important is HOW we use our curiosity.When we wield our curiosity to prove a point, we can cause division and harm. And when we use curiosity to honor others and our vulnerability, we can build the bridges necessary to cultivate the spaces we dream about and desire.Today's guest has combined his own lived experiences and research on curiosity and bridge-building into a powerful, nuanced book and set of practices on curiosity and how we use it in our relationships.Scott Shigeoka believes curiosity has the power to transform your life and change the world. It's the key to connection, healing, and personal growth. It's a critical practice for your relationships, leadership, and life satisfaction. In his book, Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, Scott teaches readers to strengthen their curiosity muscles with his signature DIVE method.Scott has appeared on The Today Show, Harvard Business Review, NPR, The Guardian, and CNBC, and he has spoken at Google, Microsoft, Pixar, IDEO, Meta, Airbnb, and universities and schools around the world and teaches at The University of Texas at Austin.Listen to the full episode to hear:How Scott's cross-country road trip showed in real-time that approaching fears with curiosity builds connection, understanding, and possibilityThe limits and boundaries to approaching others with curiosity in the momentWhy we need to bring curiosity and humility when we catch our own biasesHow social and structural power dynamics influence how we balance curiosity, discomfort, and anger in a groupThree key questions to ask yourself to identify if your curiosity about another person or situation is invasive or predatoryHow letting go of certainty opens up possibilities and allows for growthLearn more about Scott Shigeoka:WebsiteSeek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the WorldInstagram: @scottshigeokaLearn more about Rebecca:rebeccaching.comWork With RebeccaSign up for the weekly Unburdened Leader EmailResources:Rising Strong: How the Ability to Reset Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead, Brené BrownThe Making of Another Major Motion Picture Masterpiece, Tom HanksBillie Eilish - LUNCHInside Out 2Beyoncé - RENAISSANCE
About the Show:"We want to focus on building strong connections and really affirm that Northwest Arkansas is a welcoming and inclusive place."Margot LemasterAbout the Guest:Margot Lemaster is the Executive Director of EngageNWA at the Northwest Arkansas Council. Margot has been instrumental in fostering community cohesion and inclusivity in the region for over seven years. EngageNWA focuses on creating opportunities for social connections, providing learning opportunities, and fostering a strong sense of belonging for every resident in the Northwest Arkansas area. In addition to her role at the Council, Margot actively collaborates with numerous community organizations to drive impactful initiatives, such as Welcoming Week.Episode Summary:In this episode of the I Am Northwest Arkansas podcast, hosted by Randy Wilburn, Margot Lemaster returns to discuss the much-anticipated Welcoming Week 2024. Margot, Executive Director of EngageNWA, sheds light on the upcoming events and the continuous efforts to promote inclusivity and belonging in Northwest Arkansas. The conversation dives deep into the key themes of the initiative, including engaging youth and fostering curiosity, and highlights the various programs scheduled throughout September.Margot explains the growth of Welcoming Week over the years and its importance in building social cohesion across diverse communities in the region. She also highlights significant events like the Marshallese Cultural Training Program and the keynote session by curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka. This episode provides a detailed overview of how the events aim to bring together people from all walks of life and make Northwest Arkansas a more welcoming place for everyone. With support from numerous organizations and the dedication of the EngageNWA team, Welcoming Week 2024 promises to be a significant milestone in promoting inclusivity.Key Takeaways:Welcoming Week 2024 Initiatives: Events are designed to foster inclusivity and belonging across diverse communities in Northwest Arkansas.Engaging Youth: This year's focus includes engaging high school students in Springdale, demonstrating the importance of youth involvement in community building.Theme of Curiosity: Scott Shigeoka's session on September 13 will highlight the role of curiosity in bridging connections among people.Community Collaboration: The success of Welcoming Week is rooted in the collaborative efforts of numerous community partners and organizations.Belonging Barometer Survey: EngageNWA has launched a belonging barometer to collect data on community belonging, which will shape future initiatives.All this and more on this episode of the I Am Northwest Arkansas podcast.Important Links and Mentions on the Show*Email Margot LemasterWebsite Welcoming Week NWAWebsite EngageNWAWebsite Welcoming Week
Scott Shigeoka is a fellow at the University of California, Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center, and a lecturer at the University of Texas, Austin. He is also an international speaker and author whose new book is SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. Scott combines social science research and real-world experience into practical strategies to bridge cultural differences, build new relationships, and embark on transformative life experiences. Scott joins the podcast to explain the difference between deep curiosity and shallow curiosity, how inward curiosity can be a powerful tool for self-discovery, and what the world may look like if we all became a little more curious. Want to learn more about curiosity? Check out our story “Curiosity Has Two Faces” by Annelise Jolley on Templeton Ideas. What did you think of this episode? Let us know with a rating and a review! Join the conversation on social media: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and YouTube.
Today we're talking all things curiosity and how continually seeking new knowledge and understanding can reshape your perspective and, in fact, your life with Scott Shigeoka, author, Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World.” Kaiser Permanente employees will receive a 20% discount on purchasing Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World between June 6 – 13, 2024 using the discount code “LiveWellThrive.” Follow this link to purchase the book: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/scott-shigeoka/seek/9781538740804/?lens=balance Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Michael Bungay Stanier: The Coaching Habit Michael Bungay Stanier is the author of eight books, including The Coaching Habit*, which has sold more than a million copies and is the best-selling book on coaching this century. He is the founder Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that's trained thousands of people around the world to be more coach-like. His TEDx Talk on Taming Your Advice Monster has been viewed more than a million times. One of the most common desires leaders espouse is wanting to get better at helping others grow. One great way to do that is to become more coach-like. In this conversation, Michael and I explore how we can do better at building this skill. Key Points Care deeply for others while also being disconnected from their outcomes. Give people responsibility for their own freedom. Consider asking, “How much risk are you willing to take?” Allow the other party to define the boundaries. Bring a difficult observation as a third point. Separate the message from the person and let them decide what's true. Avoid asking “why” questions of others to avoid putting people on the defensive and trying to solve their problems. A helpful checkpoint: is this question something that's helping me or helping the other party? Silence is a measure of success. When you ask as question that lands, people need time to answer. Your body leads your brain. Notice your physical presence and how it manifests when you're listening well. Resources Mentioned The Coaching Habit* by Michael Bungay Stanier Register your book receipt for bonus items from Michael Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes These Coaching Questions Get Results, with Michael Bungay Stanier (episode 237) Leadership in the Midst of Chaos, with Jim Mattis (episode 440) How to Lead Better Through Complexity, with Jennifer Garvey Berger (episode 613) How to Help Others Be Seen and Heard, with Scott Shigeoka (episode 654) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.
Welcome to episode #927 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #927. Let's get much more curious in our work (and in our daily lives) to help bring this world closer together. Scott Shigeoka has spent his time exploring the power of curiosity. This has not only won him accolades but also transformed how we think about bridging divides in our increasingly complex world. His new book, Seek - How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, offers a look into curiosity as a force for positive change, earning praise from thinkers like Malcolm Gladwell and Adam Grant, and recognition as an Amazon Best Book of 2023. Scott's unique perspective is shaped by a diverse background — from his roots in Hawaii to teaching groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin, and speaking for brands like Google and Pixar. His journey through curiosity began as a personal quest and has evolved into a universal call to action, underscored by his work at UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center. Our conversation also touches on the impact of the pandemic on curiosity, a time when questions and the search for understanding became more critical than ever. Scott discusses how embracing curiosity can empower us to navigate through crises with resilience and hope. He also delves into the challenges of cancel culture and scrutiny, which can stifle curiosity. Beyond individual growth, Scott explores how institutions like universities can serve as incubators for curiosity, promoting an environment where challenging discussions can occur without fear. The role of emotions in fueling or hindering curiosity emerges as a key theme, with Scott advocating for emotional intelligence as a complement to intellectual inquiry. As Scott splits his time between the vibrant San Francisco Bay Area and the tranquil Mojave Desert, he embodies the balance between action and reflection, making him an ideal guide for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of the world through the lens of curiosity. Whether you're a leader, educator, or simply someone looking to foster more meaningful connections, this conversation promises to offer valuable insights into making curiosity a dynamic part of your everyday life. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:00:26. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Scott Shigeoka. Seek - How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. Greater Good Science Center. Follow Scott on Instagram. Follow Scott on X. Follow Scott on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Takeaways Hope and optimism are essential for fostering curiosity and a vision for the future. Cancel culture and the fear of scrutiny can hinder curiosity and prevent the exploration of different perspectives. Power dynamics play a role in curiosity, with those in positions of power needing to be curious about the perspectives of others. Emotions can impact curiosity, and it is important to create spaces where different perspectives can be shared without fear of judgment. College campuses can serve as laboratories for fostering curiosity and bridging differences. Curiosity has the power to change perspectives and create positive relationships. Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:15 - The Science of Curiosity 04:54 - The Catalyst for Writing the Book 07:49 - Curiosity During the Pandemic 12:51 - The Importance of Curiosity in Healing 18:36 - The Role of Curiosity in Bridging Differences 19:13 - The Power of Asking Questions 21:31 - The Dive Model 28:38 - Scaling Curiosity and Bridging Differences 43:17 - The Importance of Hope and Optimism 44:03 - The Fear of Scrutiny and Cancel Culture 45:00 - The Impact of Cancel Culture on Curiosity 46:47 - The Role of Power in Curiosity 49:17 - The Impact of Emotions on Curiosity 52:41 - Curiosity and Polarization on College Campuses 55:23 - Creating Spaces for Curiosity on College Campuses 59:04 - The Power of Curiosity to Change Perspectives
Do we lose access to curiosity as we age? Or is it like a muscle that's always there, but just needs to be activated and strengthened?Scott Keoni Shigeoka is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker and author and he's known for translating research into strategies that promote positive wellbeing and connected relationships around the globe including at UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his popular courses at the University of Texas in Austin.In this vibrant and very human conversation with Damon Klotz, Scott helps us remember that we have the capacity to explore and explains just how to use exploration to connect better with others. He tells us how curiosity can boost morale, increase collaboration, and how it can ease conflict and tension in the workplace and everywhere else.Scott also encourages us all to start being an 'admitter', explaining how understanding the limits of your knowledge will always help people believe that you're not completely out of touch.Show notes:If you've enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, follow and leave a review.Learn more about Culture Amp at www.cultureamp.com or @cultureamp on InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Scott Shigeoka shares about his book SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World on episode 508 of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast. Quotes from the episode It is a really beautiful experience to have multiple generations in the same house where we're all just living and learning alongside one another. -Scott Shigeoka Students can feel unsafe on their campuses because of the discourse or the lack of discourse. -Scott Shigeoka Resources SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, by Scott Shigeoka Curiosity quiz I drove across the US to meet people I disagree with – and learned how to look beyond labels, by Scott Shigeoka in The Guardian Today Show Clip: How Being Deeply Curious Can Strengthen Connections UC Berkeley Greater Good Science Center Death Doula Alta Arthur's TED Talk: Why Thinking About Death Helps You Live a Better Life How Curiosity Can Help Us Overcome Disconnection, by Scott Shigeoka for the UC Berkeley Greater Good Science Center
Charles Duhigg: Supercommunicators Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer Prize–winning investigative journalist and the author of The Power of Habit and Smarter Faster Better. A graduate of Harvard Business School and Yale College, he is a winner of the National Academies of Sciences, National Journalism, and George Polk awards. He writes for The New Yorker and other publications, and is host emeritus of the Slate podcast How To! He's the author of Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection*. We all know that we can't lead if we don't connect. The best leaders not do this well, but they do it consistently with all kinds of people. In this conversation, Charles and I discuss what we can learn from the best communicators to get better ourselves. Key Points Neural entrainment is when we click with someone and can finish each other's sentences (and even our biological responses align). Supercommunicators trigger this consistently across many kinds of relationships. Supercommunicators aren't always loudest or leading the conversation, but they ask more questions and adapt better in the moment. Make emotional replies easier for others. Instead of, “Do you have any hobbies?” ask, “If you could learn anything, what would it be?” Reciprocation of emotion is key for people to connect well. When another party is sharing something joyful, that's an opportunity to share yourself. When something is more contentious, loop for understanding by (1) asking a deeper question, (2) repeating back in your own words, and (3) asking if you got it right. Resources Mentioned Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection* by Charles Duhigg Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes Where You May Be Provoking Anxiety, with Erica Dhawan (episode 528) The Way to Get People Talking, with Andrew Warner (episode 560) How to Help Others Be Seen and Heard, with Scott Shigeoka (episode 654) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.
Curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka, author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, has spent years researching curiosity's impact on our social connections and empathy. He joins Alan Todd to dig into the difference between deep and shallow curiosity, and how keeping an open mind and a spirit of intellectual humility can make you and your team feel more connected. Learn more about Udemy Business at https://bit.ly/udemy-podcast.
Today we sit down with Scott Shigeoka, author, keynote speaker, and internationally recognized curiosity expert. Originally from Hawaii, Scott translates his research on curiosity and how it shapes growth into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships. His new book - SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World - was awarded Amazon's Best Books of 2023. Scott now has popular courses at the University of Texas and UC Berkeley and shares his practices within D.C., Fortune 500 companies, small businesses, and other media organizations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Barbara Oakley and I converse about Critical Thinking and Learning - recorded for those it might help. Barbara is the creator of Uncommon Sense Teaching, Learn Like a Pro, Learning How to Learn, and many other courses, books, talks, and business presentations. Want to learn more from Barbara? Here's a great start https://coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn https://barbaraoakley.com Books mentioned in this conversation The Worlds I See: Curiosity, Exploration, and Discovery at the Dawn of AI by Fei-Fei Li https://www.amazon.com/Worlds-See-Curiosity-Exploration-Discovery/dp/B0BSP29SQ4 The Crux by Richard Rummelt https://www.amazon.com/Crux-How-Leaders-Become-Strategists/dp/B09WRTFWNZ Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World by Scott Shigeoka https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Curiosity-Transform-Change-World/dp/B0C822WG9W Annie Duke's books "The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away" and "Thinking in Bets”? https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-in-Bets-Annie-Duke-audiobook/dp/B078SBSBW3 The Trusted Learning Advisor https://www.amazon.com/Trusted-Advisor-20th-Anniversary/dp/B095PSYBLC The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins https://www.amazon.com/The-Selfish-Gene-Richard-Dawkins-audiobook/dp/B004U8NB2M Everybody lies What the internet tells us about who we really are https://www.amazon.com/Everybody-Lies-audiobook/dp/B077XJ5QBB Play to Win by Roger Martin - What has to be true for this to be an effective strategy? https://www.amazon.com/Playing-to-Win-audiobook/dp/B00GRMUSOS Moral Mazes: The World of Corporate Managers by Robert Jackall https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Mazes-Robert-Jackall-audiobook/dp/B003ATPA1M Between the State and the Schoolhouse: Understanding the Failure of Common Core by Tom Loveless https://www.amazon.com/Between-State-Schoolhouse-Understanding-Educational/dp/1682535908 The article mentioned Curiosity's different stances. https://www.templeton.org/news/curiosity-has-two-faces General interest curiosity, Deprivation curiosity (Barb also said something new to me. predatory curiosity)
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Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Michele Cobb discuss a useful and often moving audiobook about promoting curiosity in people, written and read by Scott Shigeoka. His performance is a wonderful vehicle for his altruistic message and charming personal stories. Describing the uses and misuses of inquiry, he shows how we can question the world more intentionally while also being sensitive to others. His examples from the corporate world are especially useful as he details the attitudes and verbal tools that encourage creative expression and collaboration. Read the full review of the audiobook on AudioFile's website. Published by Hachette Audio. Find more audiobook recommendations at audiofilemagazine.com This episode of Behind the Mic is brought to you by Brilliance Publishing. From the author of The Last Mona Lisa comes a thrilling story of masterpieces, masterminds, and mystery. Alternating between a perilous search and the history of stolen art and lives, listen at audible.com/TheLostVanGogh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It's human nature to be curious. In fact, being curious is good for us. We release dopamine when we flex our curiosity. Being curious makes us more compassionate and gives us an edge at problem solving. However, as we age, many of us become more set in our ways and less curious. Our current political climate has polarized us, and we have become more set in our ways and less curious about our differences. Scott Shigeoka is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. Scott left his life in San Fransisco and traveled cross country in his Prius to seek out people and places that were vastly different than himself. Hear what he found and learn the tools to reignite your curiosity in this episode as he tells us his surprising, inspirational, and hopeful story.For more on Scott click here.To contact Alita click here. To hear more 10 Seconds To Air Podcasts click here.
Join our limited newsletter The Science of Habits to get curated, science-backed tips to help make your New Years resolution stick in 2024. https://ggsc.berkeley.edu/podcasts/habits When we're more curious, we are more likely to be happier and have stronger relationships. Try deeping your curiosity with these science-backed practices from author Scott Shigeoka. Link to episode transcript: https://tinyurl.com/276u4yxu Episode summary: As a cardiologist and immigrant in the United States, Stephanie Hsiao has always placed an emphasis on advancing her skills in order to succeed. So when she received the diagnosis that her son was neurodiverse, Stephanie went immediately into action mode to help her son — but she felt like she was missing something. For our show, Stephanie tried a practice to cultivate “deep curiosity,” and found that a curious outlook helped her to check her assumptions about parenting and discover her son's strengths and interests. Later, we hear from curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka about the difference between shallow and deep curiosity, and how it can help us forge stronger connections with others. Practice: Before engaging in curiosity: Slow down, focus on your breathing. Set an intention to focus on curiosity and maybe visualize yourself being curious. While in conversation: Be open to being wrong, continuously check your assumptions, and actively turn towards those who are seeking your attention. Going forward: Make commitments to yourself and with others to engage in difficult, but open-minded interactions. Today's guests: Stephanie Hsiao is a mother and cardiologist based in San Francisco, California. Scott Shigeoka is an author and storyteller who focuses on themes of curiosity and well-being. Order Scott Shigeoka's book Seek: How Curiosity can Transform Your Life and Save the World: https://tinyurl.com/4jrxbupj Learn More About Scott's work: https://tinyurl.com/y5xyxky7 Follow Scott on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/3acu6jhm Follow Scott on Twitter: https://tinyurl.com/3m3k3bm9 Resources from The Greater Good Science Center: Six Surprising Benefits of Curiosity: https://tinyurl.com/7kcr32su How to Stay Open and Curious in Hard Conversations: https://tinyurl.com/y2f2e9ce Why Curious People Have Better Relationships: https://tinyurl.com/2xw5y9yr Does Curiosity Have a Dark Side? https://tinyurl.com/5n88wzyd How Curiosity Can Help Us Overcome Disconnection: https://tinyurl.com/9kaas6nz More Resources on Curiosity: BBC - Curiosity: The neglected trait that drives success: https://tinyurl.com/38bubaak Harvard - A Curious Mind: https://tinyurl.com/324hyzv4 TED - How Curiosity Will Save Us: https://tinyurl.com/muswe2y5 Tell us about your experience with being curious. Email us at happinesspod@berkeley.edu or use the hashtag #happinesspod. Help us share The Science of Happiness! Rate us on Spotify and share this link with someone who might like the show: https://tinyurl.com/m6aezjce This episode was supported by a grant from the John Templeton Foundation, as part of our project on "Expanding Awareness of the Science of Intellectual Humility." To learn more, go to https://tinyurl.com/2dj6hw29
Gabe and Allison share some medical stories no one wants to hear. A listener isn't sure what to say at her brother's wedding because she hates his fiancé. Scott Shigeoka then joins the chat to share his interest in curiosity and how it shapes our lives and relationships. And finally, what is the What About Me effect and why is it so annoying.Watch clips and the full TLDRI episodes AND listen to the full Wednesday episodes:https://www.patreon.com/justbetweenusThis has been a Gallison ProductionProduced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint ProductionsPost-Production by Coco LlorensProduction Assistance by Melanie D. WatsonSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/just-between-us/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
It's no secret that division, loneliness, and polarization are on the rise—to catastrophic impact on our personal lives. While we often think of curiosity as a personality trait, internationally-recognized curiosity expert Scott Shigeoka knows that it's actually the most potent tool we have to bridge our differences and heal relationships: From political blow-ups to age divides at work; religious differences to languishing friendships; gun rights to gender rights. In this episode, Shigeoka blends cutting edge research on curiosity with wisdom from years of grassroots community work —as he takes listeners on a journey to understand the power of deep curiosity. Scott Shigeoka is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at the UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Scott implements his curiosity practices in the public sector, Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood, media organizations, education institutions, and small businesses. Scott's book, Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, is available now. To learn more about Scott, go to scottshigeoka.com. Support the Show - Become a Patron! Help us grow and become a Patron today: https://www.patreon.com/smartpeoplepodcast Sponsors: Babbel - Get 55% off your Babbel subscription at Babbel.com/SPP. HelloFresh - Go to HelloFresh.com/smartpeoplefree and use code smartpeoplefree for FREE breakfast for life! ButcherBox - Sign up today at butcherbox.com/smart and use code smart to get free chicken wings for a year. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at SHOPIFY.COM/spp. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Heather Younger: The Art of Active Listening Heather Younger is an experienced international keynote speaker, best-selling author, CEO, and Founder of Employee Fanatix. Known as The Employee Whisperer, Heather harnesses humor, warmth, and an instant relatability to engage and uplift audiences and inspire them into action. She is a Certified Diversity Professional, certified in Emotional and Social Intelligence and DiSC, and is also the author of three books. Her previous best-selling book, The Art of Caring Leadership: How Leading with Heart Uplifts Teams and Organizations, was praised for offering powerful insights for developing authentic, thoughtful, and purposeful leaders and change-makers. She's the author of The Art of Active Listening: How People at Work Feel Heard, Valued, and Understood*. When you know how to listen, people will share more. We may or may not always be able to resolve every concern, but we can be sure others are heard. In this conversation, Heather and I discuss how we can shift from listening for what we want to hear towards listening for what we need to learn. Key Points Some issues can only be resolved through better listening. That alone makes this a critical skill for leaders. When you know how to listen, people will bring things to you. Listen for not what you want to hear but what you want to learn. Listening is not just about what's been said, but also about what is seen. Get beyond simply, “What I hear you saying is…” Some leaders have a fear about the direction that a response might take a conversation. Remember that often people first and foremost want to be heard, regardless of what happens next. Nobody is ready to listen at every moment. Taking time to center yourself for a conversation in a few minutes or later in the day can be helpful for both parties. Resources Mentioned The Art of Active Listening: How People at Work Feel Heard, Valued, and Understood* by Heather Younger Art of Active Listening Certification Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes The Way to Have Conversations That Matter, with Celeste Headlee (episode 344) Four Habits That Derail Listening, with Oscar Trimboli (episode 500) How to Help Others Be Seen and Heard, with Scott Shigeoka (episode 654) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.
Curiosity is something we're all born with…it's a desire to know, a search for understanding. In today's episode, Enneagram 7, Scott Shigeoka shares how his innately inquisitive nature allows him to foster deeper connections and explains how others can and should do the same. “We often think about [curiosity] as an intellectual tool to extract information, but actually you can move from the mind into the heart and it can become a heart-center tool that you use to better understand people, to understand yourself, to understand the divine…it's a force for connection,” explains Scott. We dig into his new book, "Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life & Change the World,” and differentiate between shallow curiosity and deep curiosity…and why we need both. Scott Shigeoka is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and author. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at the UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his popular courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Scott implements his curiosity practices in the public sector, Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood, media organizations, education institutions, and small businesses. To learn more about Scott, visit his website at www.scottshigeoka.com and follow him on Instagram at @scottshigeoka. You can also grab a copy of his new book "SEEK" here.
In this episode, Scott Shigeoka shares insights on the power of curiosity and its ability to transform our lives and the world. Scott Shigeoka is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and author. He has taught courses on curiosity at The University of Texas at Austin and explored its role in positive well-being and relationships at U.C. Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center. Scott has taken a 45,000-mile road trip around the country to delve into uncomfortable situations and bridge divides through curiosity. In our conversation, Scott emphasizes that curiosity is not just a personality trait but the foundation of connection, growth, and healing. He introduces his "DIVE" model, which helps activate deep curiosity by guiding us to detach from assumptions and biases, intend to prepare our mindset, value the dignity of every person, and embrace the hard times in life. Some highlights we explore: The importance of curiosity in navigating societal challenges and building connections How curiosity can transform our lives and help us understand different perspectives The "DIVE" model and practical strategies to cultivate curiosity and so much more! Enjoy!
On this episode of The Tidbit, Kim talks to Scott Shigeoka about his new book SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. Scott says curiosity is key as a small business owner, and staying curious can help cure the disconnection and dissatisfaction in the workplace that has been so commonplace since the global pandemic. Host: Kim BrydenProducer: Gabriela SaldiviaGuest:Scott Shigeoka: SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World
Scott Shigeoka is a globally recognized expert in curiosity, a speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He is renowned for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and meaningful relationships worldwide. ___Get your copy of Personal Socrates: Better Questions, Better Life Connect with Marc >>> Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Twitter Drop a review and let me know what resonates with you about the show!Thanks as always for listening and have the best day yet!*Behind the Human is proudly recorded in a Canadian made Loop Phone Booth*Special props
This week join Radically Loved for an epic adventure into the world of curiosity with the incredible Scott Shigeoka, the wisdom behind "Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World." In this episode, Shigeoka takes us on a deep dive, sharing how curiosity has shaped his life and how it can transform yours too!
This week join Radically Loved for an epic adventure into the world of curiosity with the incredible Scott Shigeoka, the wisdom behind "Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World." In this episode, Shigeoka takes us on a deep dive, sharing how curiosity has shaped his life and how it can transform yours too!
In this episode sponsored by Racepoint Global, we discuss how the themes of curiosity and cross-generational collaboration apply to the world of communications. Guests include Marci Alboher of CoGenerate and Scott Shigeoka, author of "SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World."
What does a culture of curiosity look like, and why should you care? Episode 25 delves into Scott Shigeoka's insights on fostering curiosity with 4 Phrases That Build a Culture of Curiosity. We also tackle FTX and the complex issue of executive accountability, along with a special announcement about our show's hosting. For more resources on leadership and workplace culture visit achievecentre.com
One way to bridge deep divides is to get curious about the people on the other side. Scott Shigeoka has taught at UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and the University of Texas at Austin. He joins host Krys Boyd to discuss what he calls deep curiosity, which pushes people to move beyond biases to see the value in another person's worldview. His book is “Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World.”
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Is curiosity one of your greatest superpowers when it comes to making meaningful connections, healing, and growing personally? This episode features Scott Shigeoka, an expert on curiosity and the author of Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. Join us as Scott draws from personal experiences and extensive research to teach us about the power of deep curiosity and how it goes beyond mere knowledge-seeking to revolutionize your well-being, relationships, and even the world around you. Listen and Learn: The spectrum of curiosity Scott shares his encounters with deep curiosity and how it changed his experiences Can deep curiosity help cure the global loneliness epidemic? The three directions of curiosity - internal, external, and beyond The downside to curiosity What's stopping you from getting curious? How to cultivate deep curiosity using the DIVE model What sets a weak question apart from a powerful question? Resources: Visit Scott's website Connect with Scott on Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Instagram Scott's book Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World About Scott Shigeoka Scott Shigeoka is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and author. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at the UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Scott implements his curiosity practices in the public sector, Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood, media organizations, education institutions, and small businesses. Related Episodes: 325. Unseen, Unheard, Undervalued with Janina Scarlet 302. Say the Right Thing with David Glasgow 294. Yes And: Improv in Psychology with Kelly Leonard 255. Influence is Your Superpower with Zoe Chance 251. Wonder with Frank Keil 247. Find Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Curiosity is an important trait and one that I believe can reconnect us with our humanity. This is a powerful interview and one that will have you reflecting on your internal and outer world. You are going to learn so much from our guest, Scott Shigeoka, who is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at the UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. I loved this conversation and know you will too! RESOURCES MENTIONED Join Michele's Newsletter Michele on Instagram Michele's Book Website: http://www.seekthebook.com Book: Scotts Book, Seek https://www.nunsandnones.org/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/scottshigeoka/ Share this interview with a friend! Please rate and review it on Apple podcasts. Your reviews are so appreciated! XO, Michele
Part two of a wonderful conversation with curiosity activist Scott Shigeoka. Scott has just released his new book SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life & Change the World. In this second episode, we focus on a few of his favorite practices, including "Quicksanding" -- how to survive those scary, suffocating moments by slowing down. We explore how we can honor the limits of our curiosity and appreciate curiosity's cardinal directions: inward, outward, and beyond. Finally, I revisit a conversation with Jenn Seiff, whose training in yoga echoes so many of Scott's insights. It's a lovely pairing. Visit: https://scottshigeoka.com Theme music by Sean Balick; "Home Home At Last" by Warmbody, via Blue Dot Sessions. Photo Credit: Matt Stomper
In the fast-paced world of work, sometimes we forget to pause and take the time to be curious. But curiosity is an essential part of building relationships and solving problems. So, how can we tap into our natural curiosity? Today's guest is Scott Shigeoka. Scott is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and author. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his popular courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Scott implements his curiosity practices in the public sector, Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood, media organizations, education institutions, and small businesses.Today, Scott and I talk about all things curiosity–why curiosity is important, how to be curious through his DIVE model, the different types of curiosity, how to encourage your team to be more curious, and so much more.Join the conversation now!Get FREE mini-sketchnotes with the big idea from the week's episode delivered to your inbox when you subscribe to my weekly email.Conversation Topics(00:00) Intro(02:04) What is shallow vs. deep curiosity?(05:50) What keeps us from being curious?(10:04) The three directions of deep curiosity(11:21) What does it look like to be curious at work?(14:17) The concept of quicksand and what it does(18:58) What are the components of the DIVE model?(21:08) How to bring curiosity into the workplace (27:21) Tips to encourage your colleagues to be more curious themselves(33:20) A great manager Scott has worked for(35:48) Keep up with Scott(37:28) [Extended Episode Only] How to navigate when someone asks you a question that pushes up against your boundaries(42:40) [Extended Episode Only] Quick phrases on how to introduce a boundary to someone(45:12) [Extended Episode Only] Tips in dealing with predatory curiosity or difficult questionsAdditional Resources:- Get the extended episode by Joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month- Read the full transcript here- Read the related blog article here- Follow me on Instagram here - Visit my website for more hereConnect with Scott:- Follow Scott on Instagram here- Grab a copy of his book hereFREE Divergent-Convergent Inquiry Cheat SheetGet Mamie's cheat sheet on divergent-convergent inquiry. Questions are a key component of exploring curiosity. This PDF will help you ask better questions based on your goals and situation. It also includes suggested resources to further your understanding of curiosity and question-asking.Get all of these guest bonuses and many other member benefits when you join The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community.---------------------The Modern Manager is a leadership podcast for rockstar managers who want to create a working environment where people thrive, and great work gets done.Follow The Modern Manager on your favorite podcast platform so you won't miss an episode!
Scott Shigeoka is an internationally-recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote wellbeing and connected relationships around the globe, including at the University of California Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Today on the show, we'll talk about Scott's book and the power of curiosity. Listen to learn about >> Why curiosity matters >> Shallow vs. deep curiosity >> Scott's book, SEEK >> Ways to cultivate and practice using your curiosity >> The power of “I don't know” and “Tell me more” Our Guest Scott Shigeoka is an internationally-recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at the UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Scott implements his curiosity practices in the public sector, Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood, media organizations, education institutions, and small businesses. Show Highlights [01:59] How Scott's love of stories and storytelling brought him to where he is today. [02:50] Majoring in journalism and psychology, and working in Iceland. [04:20] Designing and storytelling at IDEO and in Hollywood. [05:00] Scott's response to the 2016 election and the polarization of America was a 13-month road trip around the country. [07:29] What is curiosity? [08:20] Shallow vs. deep curiosity. [11:22] How Scott approached talking with people at Trump political rallies. [13:44] The big lesson Scott learned during the road trip. [15:42] Curiosity is listening. [18:01] People want to feel that their stories, their lives, matter. [18:52] Scott talks about predatory curiosity. [21:36] What readers will find in Scott's book, SEEK. [22:16] Curiosity can help us bridge our differences. [23:15] SEEK offers practical exercises and advice on how to exercise your curiosity. [25:07] The world needs more curiosity. [25:40] The four core “muscles” of deep curiosity. [31:20] Working with the three cardinal directions of curiosity. [34:40] A Miro Moment. [36:45] Scott offers up one way we can all practice more curiosity. [40:33] Challenge your assumptions. [43:42] Practice intellectual humility. Don't be afraid to admit you don't know the answer. [44:36] Effective leaders practice curiosity. [45:29] Use “Tell me more…” [48:15] Creating boundaries when it comes to practicing curiosity. [52:08] Embracing discomfort. [53:00] Curiosity is about understanding.[55:12] Where to find out more about Scott and his work. Links Scott on Twitter Scott on LinkedIn Scott on Instagram Seek the Book Perspectives in Design Scott Shigeoka Rural Assembly: Drawing Resilience: Scott Shigeoka Hachette Interview with Scott Audium: Scott Shigeoka – Bridging Divides Book Recommendations Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, by Scott Shigeoka The Karma of Success: Spiritual Strategies to Free Your Inner Genius, by Liz Tran Other Design Thinking 101 Episodes You Might Like Humble Design Leadership + Design Agency and Experience Design Evolution with Aleksandra Melnikova — DT101 E33 Three Little Words for Better (Business) Relationships // ALD 008 — Ep79 User Research + Asking Better Questions with Michele Ronsen — DT101 E88
I think it's fair to describe first-time author and long-time educator Scott Shigeoka as a curiosity activist. His debut book SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life & Change the World focuses on what Scott calls “deep curiosity” -- the search for understanding that leads to connection and transformation and, in so doing, makes people feel seen and heard...reminding them that they matter. That's no small thing in a time of profound incuriosity. In the first episode, we dig into some of my favorites among his many curiosity practices, like: "Be an admitter" -- seeing the joy in saying "I don't know" and centering on the relationship, rather than being right. I've found "Visualize yourself being curious" really helpful in those moments when I just don't feel the least bit curious. And, I've got some bonus content from his book and other recent writing as well! Visit: https://scottshigeoka.com Theme music by Sean Balick; "Arizona Moon" by Cholate, via Blue Dot Sessions. Photo Credit: Matt Stomper
Scott Shigeoka is an internationally-recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote wellbeing and connected relationships around the globe, including at the University of California Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Today on the show, we'll talk about Scott's book and the power of curiosity. Listen to learn about >> Why curiosity matters >> Shallow vs. deep curiosity >> Scott's book, SEEK >> Ways to cultivate and practice using your curiosity >> The power of “I don't know” and “Tell me more” Our Guest Scott Shigeoka is an internationally-recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and the author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at the UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his groundbreaking courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Scott implements his curiosity practices in the public sector, Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood, media organizations, education institutions, and small businesses. Show Highlights [01:59] How Scott's love of stories and storytelling brought him to where he is today. [02:50] Majoring in journalism and psychology, and working in Iceland. [04:20] Designing and storytelling at IDEO and in Hollywood. [05:00] Scott's response to the 2016 election and the polarization of America was a 13-month road trip around the country. [07:29] What is curiosity? [08:20] Shallow vs. deep curiosity. [11:22] How Scott approached talking with people at Trump political rallies. [13:44] The big lesson Scott learned during the road trip. [15:42] Curiosity is listening. [18:01] People want to feel that their stories, their lives, matter. [18:52] Scott talks about predatory curiosity. [21:36] What readers will find in Scott's book, SEEK. [22:16] Curiosity can help us bridge our differences. [23:15] SEEK offers practical exercises and advice on how to exercise your curiosity. [25:07] The world needs more curiosity. [25:40] The four core “muscles” of deep curiosity. [31:20] Working with the three cardinal directions of curiosity. [34:40] A Miro Moment. [36:45] Scott offers up one way we can all practice more curiosity. [40:33] Challenge your assumptions. [43:42] Practice intellectual humility. Don't be afraid to admit you don't know the answer. [44:36] Effective leaders practice curiosity. [45:29] Use “Tell me more…” [48:15] Creating boundaries when it comes to practicing curiosity. [52:08] Embracing discomfort. [53:00] Curiosity is about understanding.[55:12] Where to find out more about Scott and his work. Links Scott on Twitter Scott on LinkedIn Scott on Instagram Seek the Book Perspectives in Design Scott Shigeoka Rural Assembly: Drawing Resilience: Scott Shigeoka Hachette Interview with Scott Audium: Scott Shigeoka – Bridging Divides Book Recommendations Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, by Scott Shigeoka The Karma of Success: Spiritual Strategies to Free Your Inner Genius, by Liz Tran Other Design Thinking 101 Episodes You Might Like Humble Design Leadership + Design Agency and Experience Design Evolution with Aleksandra Melnikova — DT101 E33 Three Little Words for Better (Business) Relationships // ALD 008 — Ep79 User Research + Asking Better Questions with Michele Ronsen — DT101 E88
Scott Shigeoka: Seek Scott Shigeoka is an internationally recognized curiosity expert, speaker, and author. He is known for translating research into strategies that promote positive well-being and connected relationships around the globe, including at the UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center and through his popular courses at the University of Texas at Austin. Scott implements his curiosity practices with leaders in the public sector, Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood, media organizations, education institutions, and small businesses. He is the author of Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World*. Often we think about curiosity as a way to get information. And yes, it does do that, but there's a much bigger opportunity that many leaders miss — taking the next step with curiosity to actually help connect better with others. In this episode, Scott and I highlight four phrases that will help you do that better. Key Points It's a mistake to limit the purpose of curiosity to only information gathering. Deep curiosity can be one of the best ways to create connection. Saying, “I don't know,” may elicit fear in a lot of us, but leaders who can do this are often perceived and more competent in their work. The invitation to, “Tell me more,” is a way to respond to a bid from someone for attention that opens to door to feeling seen and heard. Even if you don't literally say the words, “I understand that you're more than your job,” making that clear in your conversations helps limit work-life conflict and uncovers better ways to support others. We tend to have a bias in the workplace for the people who traditionally have the “answers.” Asking, “Who else?” opens the door to surfacing the best ideas, regardless of who they originate with. Resources Mentioned Seek: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World* by Scott Shigeoka Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes How to Be Present, with Dave Crenshaw (episode 511) How to Inspire More Curiosity, with Shannon Minifie (episode 520) How to Genuinely Show Up for Others, with Marshall Goldsmith (episode 590) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.
Join us in a thought-provoking episode with Scott Shigeoka, an advocate for the power of curiosity. Scott delves into the ABCs of our habitual thoughts - Assumptions, Biases, and Certainty - and how they shape our worldviews. In the age of digital information overload, he emphasizes the need to make room for new insights about ourselves and others. Scott shares insights from his book on curiosity, highlighting the significance of preparing for meaningful conversations, valuing the dignity of individuals, and embracing challenging moments. He also touches upon the societal challenges, like the 2016 U.S. elections and global conflicts, underscoring the importance of turning towards one another for understanding. Dive into a conversation that champions the essence of human connection and the transformative power of genuine curiosity. Subscribe for ad-free interviews and bonus episodes https://plus.acast.com/s/the-unmistakable-creative-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Bay and Laura are joined by Scott Shigeoka, an explorer and cartographer of the landscape of CURIOSITY and how it can help us create a more harmonious inner and outer world. Scott's new book, SEEK, will be in bookstores on November 14, 2023. Spoiler alert: West of Wonderland 100% recommends SEEK and can't wait for you all to read it and nerd out! PS. What should you do if you find yourself hating on spiders??! PPS. Have you ever wanted a longer explanation of what ontology actually is? This episode knocks it out of the park. Visit www.seekthebook.com to find out more!
Having a curious approach to life can improve our mood, creativity and relationships. Scott Shigeoka leads a visualization exercise to help you approach someone you might disagree with with an open and curious mind. Link to episode transcript: https://tinyurl.com/4dfsxr2x How to Do This Practice: Find a comfortable place to begin the practice, focusing on your breath. Imagine that you are going to interact with a friend during a moment of conflict. Visualize the meeting, like the space around you and how you greet each other. Picture yourself showing a curious and loving perspective. Take note of what you would say, the tone of your voice, your body language, and in particular the types of questions you ask to impact the conversation. Pay attention to how you would feel if your friend was receiving your curiosity well, compared to if they weren't. Visualize yourself thanking your friend for their friendship and curiosity before leaving the meeting. Today's Happiness Break host: Scott Shigeoka is an author and storyteller who focuses on themes of curiosity and well-being. Order Scott Shigeoka's book Seek: How Curiosity can Transform Your Life and Save the World: https://tinyurl.com/4jrxbupj Learn More About Scott's work: https://tinyurl.com/y5xyxky7 Follow Scott on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/3acu6jhm Follow Scott on Twitter: https://tinyurl.com/3m3k3bm9 More resources from The Greater Good Science Center: Why Curious People Have Better Relationships: https://tinyurl.com/2xw5y9yr How to Stay Open and Curious in Hard Conversations: https://tinyurl.com/y2f2e9ce Six Surprising Benefits of Curiosity: https://tinyurl.com/7kcr32su How Curiosity Can Help Us Overcome Disconnection: https://tinyurl.com/9kaas6nz What Curiosity Looks Like in the Brain: https://tinyurl.com/22rj6nbh We love hearing from you! Tell us about your experience of handling a difficult interaction. Email us at happinesspod@berkeley.edu or use the hashtag #happinesspod. Find us on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/6s39rzus Help us share Happiness Break! Rate us and copy and share this link: https://tinyurl.com/6s39rzus We're living through a mental health crisis. Between the stress, anxiety, depression, loneliness, burnout — we all could use a break to feel better. That's where Happiness Break comes in. In each biweekly podcast episode, instructors guide you through research-backed practices and meditations that you can do in real-time. These relaxing and uplifting practices have been shown in a lab to help you cultivate calm, compassion, connection, mindfulness, and more — what the latest science says will directly support your well-being. All in less than ten minutes. A little break in your day.
Let's face it: once we hit midlife, many of us have a book inside us that's dying to get out! But how do you know if your book idea is good? And what must you do to get your book in front of an agent or publisher? Should you self-publish? How do you get started? Luckily, this week's guest, literary agent Jackie Ashton, will answer those questions and more!So much goes into the beginning phase of drafting your book, but it doesn't necessarily start with putting pen to paper. Jackie shares the top industry tips and resources you can use to begin your book-writing journey today.Jackie Ashton is the Founder and Chief Literary Agent at Bookmark—a boutique literary agency—where she represents thought leaders, emerging authors, and change-makers whose books will leave a lasting positive impact on the world and how we live in it. Previously, she was an agent at Lucinda Literary, where she negotiated major publishing deals with big five publishers for her clients, such as Dave Pell (author of PLEASE SCREAM INSIDE YOUR HEART, Hachette), The AstroTwins (authors of THE ASTROLOGY ADVANTAGE, Simon & Schuster) and Scott Shigeoka (author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, Hachette). Before becoming a literary agent, Jackie worked for over a decade providing editorial direction and copywriting for brands like Athleta and Airbnb. She is also an accomplished journalist, essayist, and author. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Salon, among other outlets.Jackie and I discuss:Jackie's journey to becoming a literary agent.Traditional publishing vs. independent publishing vs. hybrid publishing.The process of writing a book.Questions you need to ask yourself before you start to write.What makes a book a success and what doesn't.The importance of having a solid audience.How to make your book stand out to a publisher.Finally, Jackie and I want you to know that You're Not Too F***ing Old! to write a book!Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, take a screenshot of the episode to post in your stories and tag me on Instagram @jenmarples! And don't forget to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about Jen Marples at https://www.jenmarples.com/ Unedited AI Transcript HereCONNECT WITH JACKIE ASHTON:Website - Jackie AstonWebsite - Bookmark AgencyLinkedInCONNECT WITH JEN MARPLES:Subscribe to my NewsletterInstagramLinkedInTikTok Work with Jen! WebsiteLINKS MENTIONED:My Monticello by Jocelyn Nicole Johnson (Amazon)The Op Ed ProjectAuthor AcceleratorBook Bound CoFrom Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks (Amazon)
On today's episode, we're joined by entrepreneur and creative director, Scott Shigeoka. Scott spent his early years exploring creativity at The Washington Post, IDEO, and working with artists and musicians. He has since shifted to working on overcoming divisions in the country, ranging from politics, to LGBTQ rights, and the workplace. Scott recognized the desire the world has to understand one another, after his launch of “The Bridging Differences Playbook” that received a quarter million downloads in the first few months. Scott dives into the concept of bridge-building, explaining the importance of learning what values others have, what their stories are, and how we can lean into tension with some healthy disagreement and conflict in order to truly understand different perspectives. Scott traveled the country to understand others' points of view and created design spaces for intentional bridge-building conversations. During this time, he practiced mindfulness and self-awareness to be in the right mindset to speak openly with others who had different opinions and understand their perspective. He discovered that the three steps to bridge-building are: 1. Get experts to help co-design and be involved in the conversation, 2. Understand power and make sure you have a sophisticated perspective on how to design these interactions and conversations, and 3. assign people of power as the listener and give the marginalized individuals the chance to share their perspectives and feelings. Scott continues to scale culture change through bridge-building in businesses, communities, and the country. Who is this episode for?: (B2B, B2C, Governmental Org), In person & Online, Scaling 3 key takeaways: - The Bridge Building Formula: 1. Get experts to guide, 2. Understand the role of power, 3. Give marginalized individuals the chance to share their views with the person of power as the listener. - Scaling culture change and implementing bridging starts by working with leaders and can occur in the workplace, communities, political groups, the government, and more. - Disagreement executed in a healthy way helps us understand different perspectives and challenge our own biases, thus preventing harder evils and further division.
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Have you ever gone on a great adventure to pursue a passion project? Well, that's what our first ever guest, Scott Shigeoka, an American entrepreneur, storyteller, designer, and artist does. Born in Hawaii and now based in San Francisco, Scott founded an independent creative agency that bridges social and political divides through the power of stories. He is the host of various shows/series including "Made in America," which highlights everyday entrepreneurs and the racist/systemic barriers they've overcome. In this episode, Scott will share how a hitchhiking journey led him to founding his own business, what starkly different cultures taught him about entrepreneurship, and why he encourages all of us to celebrate ourselves and our work, even in moments of pause. To learn more about Scott and his work, visit: scottshigeoka.com -- Love our podcast? Subscribe, rate, and leave us a review. For more information about GoDaddy's social impact work, visit GoDaddy.com/godaddy-for-good This podcast is powered by GoDaddy and made with the help of our producers at Hueman Group Media.
Scott Shigeoka is a storyteller, designer, and artist. He traveled across the United States in his '06 Prius for a year to find out how to bridge the social and political divides in the country, uncovering ideas in the most unexepected of places—Trump rallies, Evangelical Christian pastors, hunters, and farmers. His forthcoming book is focused on crossing the generational divides in America. Music is Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix) by spinningmerkaba copyright © 2011. Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. Ft: Morusque, Jeris, CSoul, Alex Beroza.
Gabe and Allison share some medical stories no one wants to hear. A listener isn't sure what to say at her brother's wedding because she hates his fiancé. Scott Shigeoka then joins the chat to share his interest in curiosity and how it shapes our lives and relationships. And finally, what is the What About Me effect and why is it so annoying.Watch clips and the full TLDRI episodes AND listen to the full Wednesday episodes:https://www.patreon.com/justbetweenusThis has been a Gallison ProductionProduced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint ProductionsPost-Production by Coco LlorensProduction Assistance by Melanie D. WatsonAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy