Podcast appearances and mentions of dave pell

How is your perspective?  www.cocktailnation.net Tony Bennett-Lucky to be me. Buddy Greco -Round midnight. John Barry -Tanaka‘s world. Art Blakey- Prelude in blue. Art Pepper- Imagination Chet Baker- My Funny Valentine. Herbie Mann- Tenderly Stacey Kent, I know I dream Conte Candollu Trio -Flamingo. Marty, Paige, trio.-Dusk Light Karen Souza -Creep Marty Paich Lazy Afternoon. Dave Pell octet- Memphis in June. Ritchie Kamuka Quartet-What's new? George Shearing -The days of Wine and Roses.

How is your perspective, ok stop with the binoculars, that's not what I meant. www.cocktailnation.net Tony Bennett-Lucky to be me. Buddy Greco -Round midnight. John Barry -Tanaka‘s world. Art Blakey- Prelude in blue. Art Pepper- Imagination Chet Baker- My Funny Valentine. Herbie Mann- Tenderly Stacey Kent, I know I dream Conte Candollu Trio -Flamingo. Marty, Paige, trio.-Dusk Light Karen Souza -Creep Marty Paich Lazy Afternoon. Dave Pell octet- Memphis in June. Ritchie Kamuka Quartet-What's new? George Shearing -The days of Wine and Roses.

GERRY MULLIGAN “GERRY MULLIGAN QUARTET” Phil Turetsky's house, Los Angeles, August 29, 1952Bernie's tune, Lullaby of the leaves, Utter chaosChet Baker (tp) Gerry Mulligan (bar,arr) Bob Whitlock (b) Chico Hamilton (d) Los Angeles, October 15, 1952Nights at the turntable, Soft shoe, FreewayChet Baker (tp) Gerry Mulligan (bar,arr) Bob Whitlock (b) Chico Hamilton (d) PETE RUGOLO “RUGOLO PLAYS KENTON” Los Angeles, October 25 & 26, November 24, 1958Eager beaver, Artistry in rhythm, Capitol punishment, Southern scandal (1), Painted rhythm (1), Minor riff (1)Al Porcino, Ollie Mitchell, Buddy Childers, Don Fagerquist (tp) Milt Bernhart, Frank Rosolino, Harry Betts (tb) Ken Shroyer (btb) Red Callender (tu) Harry Klee, Bud Shank (as,fl) Bob Cooper (ts,oboe) Dave Pell (ts,cl) Chuck Gentry (bar,bcl) Claude Williamson (p) Howard Roberts (g) Don Bagley (b) Shelly Manne (d) Pete Rugolo (arr,cond KENTON PRESENTS JAZZ – BOB COOPER Los Angeles, May 14, 1954 The way you look tonight, Polka dots and moonbeams, Solo flight Bob Cooper (ts) Bud Shank (bar) Howard Roberts (g) Joe Mondragon (b) Shelly Manne (d) Los Angeles, July 30, 1954 She didn't say yes, When the sun comes out, Tongue twister (1) Bob Cooper (ts) Bud Shank (bar) Claude Williamson (p) Howard Roberts (g) Curtis Counce (b) Stan Levey (d) Continue reading Puro Jazz 29 enero 2024 at PuroJazz.

GERRY MULLIGAN “GERRY MULLIGAN QUARTET” Phil Turetsky's house, Los Angeles, August 29, 1952Bernie's tune, Lullaby of the leaves, Utter chaosChet Baker (tp) Gerry Mulligan (bar,arr) Bob Whitlock (b) Chico Hamilton (d) Los Angeles, October 15, 1952Nights at the turntable, Soft shoe, FreewayChet Baker (tp) Gerry Mulligan (bar,arr) Bob Whitlock (b) Chico Hamilton (d) PETE RUGOLO “RUGOLO PLAYS KENTON” Los Angeles, October 25 & 26, November 24, 1958Eager beaver, Artistry in rhythm, Capitol punishment, Southern scandal (1), Painted rhythm (1), Minor riff (1)Al Porcino, Ollie Mitchell, Buddy Childers, Don Fagerquist (tp) Milt Bernhart, Frank Rosolino, Harry Betts (tb) Ken Shroyer (btb) Red Callender (tu) Harry Klee, Bud Shank (as,fl) Bob Cooper (ts,oboe) Dave Pell (ts,cl) Chuck Gentry (bar,bcl) Claude Williamson (p) Howard Roberts (g) Don Bagley (b) Shelly Manne (d) Pete Rugolo (arr,cond KENTON PRESENTS JAZZ – BOB COOPER Los Angeles, May 14, 1954 The way you look tonight, Polka dots and moonbeams, Solo flight Bob Cooper (ts) Bud Shank (bar) Howard Roberts (g) Joe Mondragon (b) Shelly Manne (d) Los Angeles, July 30, 1954 She didn't say yes, When the sun comes out, Tongue twister (1) Bob Cooper (ts) Bud Shank (bar) Claude Williamson (p) Howard Roberts (g) Curtis Counce (b) Stan Levey (d) Continue reading Puro Jazz 29 enero 2024 at PuroJazz.

Let's face it: once we hit midlife, many of us have a book inside us that's dying to get out! But how do you know if your book idea is good? And what must you do to get your book in front of an agent or publisher? Should you self-publish? How do you get started? Luckily, this week's guest, literary agent Jackie Ashton, will answer those questions and more!So much goes into the beginning phase of drafting your book, but it doesn't necessarily start with putting pen to paper. Jackie shares the top industry tips and resources you can use to begin your book-writing journey today.Jackie Ashton is the Founder and Chief Literary Agent at Bookmark—a boutique literary agency—where she represents thought leaders, emerging authors, and change-makers whose books will leave a lasting positive impact on the world and how we live in it. Previously, she was an agent at Lucinda Literary, where she negotiated major publishing deals with big five publishers for her clients, such as Dave Pell (author of PLEASE SCREAM INSIDE YOUR HEART, Hachette), The AstroTwins (authors of THE ASTROLOGY ADVANTAGE, Simon & Schuster) and Scott Shigeoka (author of SEEK: How Curiosity Can Transform Your Life and Change the World, Hachette). Before becoming a literary agent, Jackie worked for over a decade providing editorial direction and copywriting for brands like Athleta and Airbnb. She is also an accomplished journalist, essayist, and author. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Salon, among other outlets.Jackie and I discuss:Jackie's journey to becoming a literary agent.Traditional publishing vs. independent publishing vs. hybrid publishing.The process of writing a book.Questions you need to ask yourself before you start to write.What makes a book a success and what doesn't.The importance of having a solid audience.How to make your book stand out to a publisher.Finally, Jackie and I want you to know that You're Not Too F***ing Old! to write a book!Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, take a screenshot of the episode to post in your stories and tag me on Instagram @jenmarples!  And don't forget to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about Jen Marples at https://www.jenmarples.com/ Unedited AI Transcript HereCONNECT WITH JACKIE ASHTON:Website - Jackie AstonWebsite - Bookmark AgencyLinkedInCONNECT WITH JEN MARPLES:Subscribe to my NewsletterInstagramLinkedInTikTok Work with Jen! WebsiteLINKS MENTIONED:My Monticello by Jocelyn Nicole Johnson (Amazon)The Op Ed ProjectAuthor AcceleratorBook Bound CoFrom Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks (Amazon)

Sometimes you need to step back and realise what you have and why you are lucky. www.cocktailnation.net Tony Bennett-Lucky to be me. Buddy Greco -Round midnight. John Barry -Tanaka‘s world. Art Blakey- Prelude in blue. Art Pepper- Imagination Chet Baker- My Funny Valentine. Herbie Mann- Tenderly Stacey Kent, I know I dream Conte Candollu Trio -Flamingo. Marty, Paige, trio.-Dusk Light Karen Souza -Creep Marty Paich Lazy Afternoon. Dave Pell octet- Memphis in June. Ritchie Kamuka Quartet-What's new? George Shearing -The days of Wine and Roses.

In der Rubrik “Investments & Exits” begrüßen wir heute Otto Birnbaum, General Partner von Revent. Otto hat die Finanzierungsrunde von Roleshare und das Wagniskapital Bündnis von eCapital analysiert: Roleshare, ein in London ansässiger Anbieter einer Matching- und Management-Plattform für das Teilen eines Jobs, hat eine Seed-Finanzierung in Höhe von 1,2 Millionen US-Dollar erhalten. Die Runde wurde von Plug and Play VC geleitet, mit Beteiligung von Forward VC, Rethink Capital Partners, Techstars VC, Invested, Phil Chambers, David Blake, Athena Karp, Roger Wade, Dave Pell, Richard Fearn, Vuyiswa M'Cwabeni, Scott Mackin, Brian Lo, Laurent Christen, Kevin Withane, Ayesha Ofori, Tessy Antony de Nassau, Frank Floessel, Catherine und Jonathan Lenson, Neha Tanna, Samantha Johnson, Alex Macdonald, Elissa Grey, Abby Wong, Adam Howe, Harmeet Rehal, Nicholas Macdonald, Daniel Afan-Williams, Henry De Zoete, Matthew Bell, Andrew Jackson, Aarish Shah, Matthew Roberts, Jean-Michel Gauthier, David Buxton, Christopher Judd, Christopher Jones, Sam Marks, Scott Dann und Angels von Lumus Investment Collective.Roleshare wurde von Sophie Smallwood und ihrem Ehemann David Smallwood gegründet und bietet einen Marktplatz für Jobtalente, auf dem sich Fachkräfte gemeinsam bewerben und Vollzeitjobs teilen können, was sich positiv auf die Gleichstellung der Geschlechter, das Wirtschaftswachstum und das Wohlergehen auswirkt. Außerdem haben sich die Gründer der Firmen Sonnen, Zooplus und Flaschenpost, mit Paul-Josef Patt, einem der erfolgreichsten Technologieinvestoren Deutschlands, verbündet. Sie stoßen jetzt als Geldgeber und Investmentpartner zum neuen Fonds der Münsteraner Firma eCapital. Bereits vor dem Closing wurden die ersten drei Beteiligungen getätigt. Zum einen stieg eCapital als Lead-Investor beim Hamburger Start-up 1Komma5 Grad ein, das Privatkunden Photovoltaikanlagen, Stromspeicher, Ladeinfrastruktur für Elektroautos und auch Wärmepumpen vom Produkt über die Installation bis hin zum grünen Stromvertrag aus einer Hand anbieten will.

Full episode: Bad Email is Dead: 5 Mistakes That Make Your Email Newsletter UnreadableAre you a regular Walkthrough™ listener? You're invited to join our Facebook mastermind for Walkthrough™ listeners. Connect with other listeners and the guests you hear on the show, get exclusive content, influence future episodes, and more!Links & Show Notes The Internet's Unkillable App - article by Dave Pell mentioned in this episode Total Annarchy - Ann Handley's newsletter, recommended in this episode Why We Buy - Katelyn Bourgoin's newsletter, recommended in this episode The Curiosity Chronicle - Sahil Bloom's newsletter, recommended in this episode Join our Facebook mastermind for The Walkthrough™ listeners HomeLight's Agent Resource Center Follow and listen to The Walkthrough™: Apple Podcasts/iTunes | Spotify | YouTube

Are you a regular Walkthrough™ listener? You're invited to join our Facebook mastermind for Walkthrough™ listeners. Connect with other listeners and the guests you hear on the show, get exclusive content, influence future episodes, and more!Links & Show Notes The Internet's Unkillable App - article by Dave Pell mentioned in this episode Total Annarchy - Ann Handley's newsletter, recommended in this episode Why We Buy - Katelyn Bourgoin's newsletter, recommended in this episode The Curiosity Chronicle - Sahil Bloom's newsletter, recommended in this episode Join our Facebook mastermind for The Walkthrough™ listeners HomeLight's Agent Resource Center Follow and listen to The Walkthrough™: Apple Podcasts/iTunes | Spotify | YouTube

This week, host Jason Jefferies is joined by Dave Pell, author of Please Scream Inside your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End, which is published by our friends at Hachette.  Topics of discussion include 826 Valencia, Japanese amusement parks, Adolf Hitler, Donald Trump, Jeopardy vs. Wheel of Fortune, the royal family, "Do as I say not as I do", binders full of women, and much more.  Copies of Please Scream Inside your Heart can be purchased here from Explore Booksellers.

Today on The Dr. Christopher Hall Show, Dr. Hall and Neil will interview Chase Masterson of the The Wedding Pact 2: The Baby Pact.   Chase Masterson is best known for 5 years as Leeta on Star Trek DS9 and has the title role of the Doctor Who Big Finish audio spin-off VIENNA, currently in Season Four. Fans of CW's The Flash know her as Sherry. Mel Brooks cast Chase in her first role in Robin Hood: Men in Tights; Chase's list of film leads and TV Guest Stars includes starring with Mark Hamill in Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles, starring opposite Bruce Campbell in SyFy's Terminal Invasion, hosting Sunday Night at the Movies with Ryan Seacrest, hosting on SyFy, playing opposite Jerry O'Connell in Sliders, General Hospital, the Emmy-winning episode of ER, and a lead in the critically acclaimed film noir, Yesterday Was a Lie, released by eOne. Chase began working in theatre when she was five; favorite lead roles include A Midsummer Night's Dream, Julius Caesar, Cabaret, Bye, Bye, Birdie, Anything Goes, The Fantasticks, The Boyfriend, Quilters, The Stingiest Man in Town, The Relapse, Murderers Anonymous, Apostrophe 68 and Woyzeck. Chase is a vocal recording artist, singing worldwide; her jazz lineage includes being produced and mentored by Dave Pell, known as the founder of West Coast jazz, who was mentored by Dizzie Gillespie and Charlier Parker. Chase has been listed in AOL's "10 Sexiest Aliens on TV," Screen Rant's "15 Most Stunning Aliens in Star Trek," Femme Fatales' "50 Sexiest," Film Fetish's "Hot Leading Ladies of Film," and UGO's "Top 25 TV Hotties, and the Schlubs They Inexplicably Love."  

Today on The Dr. Christopher Hall Show, Dr. Hall and Neil will interview Chase Masterson of the The Wedding Pact 2: The Baby Pact. Chase Masterson is best known for 5 years as Leeta on Star Trek DS9 and has the title role of the Doctor Who Big Finish audio spin-off VIENNA, currently in Season Four. Fans of CW's The Flash know her as Sherry. Mel Brooks cast Chase in her first role in Robin Hood: Men in Tights; Chase's list of film leads and TV Guest Stars includes starring with Mark Hamill in Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles, starring opposite Bruce Campbell in SyFy's Terminal Invasion, hosting Sunday Night at the Movies with Ryan Seacrest, hosting on SyFy, playing opposite Jerry O'Connell in Sliders, General Hospital, the Emmy-winning episode of ER, and a lead in the critically acclaimed film noir, Yesterday Was a Lie, released by eOne. Chase began working in theatre when she was five; favorite lead roles include A Midsummer Night's Dream, Julius Caesar, Cabaret, Bye, Bye, Birdie, Anything Goes, The Fantasticks, The Boyfriend, Quilters, The Stingiest Man in Town, The Relapse, Murderers Anonymous, Apostrophe 68 and Woyzeck. Chase is a vocal recording artist, singing worldwide; her jazz lineage includes being produced and mentored by Dave Pell, known as the founder of West Coast jazz, who was mentored by Dizzie Gillespie and Charlier Parker. Chase has been listed in AOL's "10 Sexiest Aliens on TV," Screen Rant's "15 Most Stunning Aliens in Star Trek," Femme Fatales' "50 Sexiest," Film Fetish's "Hot Leading Ladies of Film," and UGO's "Top 25 TV Hotties, and the Schlubs They Inexplicably Love."

durée : 00:59:27 - Air India - par : Nathalie Piolé - Notre passeport est prêt. Notre avion est annoncé. Ce soir, dans Banzzaï, nous nous envolons pour l'Inde ! - réalisé par : Fabien Fleurat

The witty, insightful, and entertaining Dave Pell will discuss his book Please Scream Inside Your Heart, a real-time ride through the maddening hell that was the 2020 news cycle, when turmoil and media mania stretched America's sanity, democracy and toilet paper. Pell, who describes himself as the internet's managing editor, will discuss how our media consumption got out of hand, what makes lies spread faster than truth, and why his Holocaust-surviving parents found 2020 America to be all-too familiar.   Note: This program contains EXPLICIT language SPEAKERS Dave Pell Journalist; "Internet's Managing Editor"; Publisher, Next Draft Newsletter; Author, Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End In Conversation with DJ Patil Former U.S. Chief Data Scientist; Member, Commonwealth Club Board of Governors In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on April 18th, 2022 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DAVE PELL, the “Internet's Managing Editor,” has been writing about news, technology, and media since 1999. I recommend his daily news digest, NEXT DRAFT. He just released his first book, PLEASE SCREAM INSIDE YOUR HEART: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End, a rollercoaster ride through 2020, leavened with humor and a good dose of perspective taken from the experience of his parents, who survived the Holocaust.

DAVE PELL, the “Internet's Managing Editor,”  has been writing about news, technology, and media since 1999. He just released his first book, PLEASE SCREAM INSIDE YOUR HEART: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End, a rollercoaster ride through 2020, leavened with humor and a good dose of perspective taken from the experience of his parents, who survived the Holocaust. You can learn more at NextDraft.com or Pleasescream.com

Dave Pell is the author of Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year That Wouldn’t End. He also runs the popular NextDraft Newsletter. I’m […]

We go to philosophical and thoughtful places in Episode 5 of Looking Outside with strategist Philip Ryan, Partner and Head of Innovation & Futures at Ipsos Strategy3. Today we're looking outside perspectives. Philip shares how his curious mind explores varied and broad topics, which allows him to pull in vast perspectives, that lead directly to more robust strategic thinking. Jo and Philip also discuss the benefit of pushing yourself into uncomfortable spaces and places in challenging your own personal status quo. Whether it's exploring new cultures, learning about how big ideas shape what we think today, or questioning your own preconceptions with new nuggets of thought provoking knowledge. Yup, it can even be as simple as sitting down and having a conversation with someone who has a vastly different life journey to yours. Fascinated with how big ideas were framed in the past, shape our present, and can influence our future, Philip also speaks on the history of ideas. -- To look beyond the familiar, Philip, unsurprisingly, has a broad range of sources to recommend: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Cvsbcjhtur7nplC148TWy (The Rest is History podcast), https://waitbutwhy.com/ (https://waitbutwhy.com) a blog breaking down surprising factors of big ideas, https://nowiknow.com/ (https://nowiknow.com) a daily newsletters educating on something new, https://nextdraft.com/ (https://nextdraft.com) a newsletter of fascinating news from Dave Pell, 'the editor of the internet', and Warren Berge's book https://www.amazon.com/More-Beautiful-Question-Inquiry-Breakthrough/dp/1632861054/ref=asc_df_1632861054/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312025907421&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10549091598708259971&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003566&hvtargid=pla-504424109927&psc=1 (A More Beautiful Question). Philip's personal go to is also to literally go outside (a popular choice, I also highly recommend it). -- Philip Ryan is a Partner in Ipsos Strategy3, Ipsos' marketing strategy consultancy, where he leads the innovation and futures advisory business, supporting brands as as they look to envision and create the future. He brings two decades of expertise in both industry and consulting, having been an SVP at Citi and an executive at Accenture. Philip has also worked in Marketing Strategy at LG Electronics and within the Customer Care group at Waterford Crystal. His clients include American Express, The Coca-Cola Company, P&G, Cigna, Conagra, Delta, HP, Mars, Mastercard, Honda and Hilton.​ Philip holds an MBA from Columbia Business School and a BA in European Studies from Trinity College Dublin. He grew up primarily in Ireland and currently lives in Brooklyn, but bounced around, living in various cities in Europe, Asia and the US.               Connect with Philip https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipjryan/ (on Linkedin) or learn more about Ipsos Strategy3 https://www.ipsosstrategy3.com/ (https://www.ipsosstrategy3.com) -- Welcome to Looking Outside, a new podcast dedicated to exploring fresh perspectives of familiar business topics. With each episode we'll hear from some of the most influential and original thinkers. The show is hosted by Joanna Lepore. Jo has been marketing and innovating inside of the consumer goods space for over a decade. Previously a marketer in Australia she recently moved to the United States to head up strategic foresight for Mars Wrigley North America. Jo follows her curiosity, seeking out fresh perspectives by looking outside her market, industry and field of knowledge. Starting 2022 she's taking some of her friends alongside some of the most inspiring industry leaders to explore more of this in the Looking Outside podcast. Find out more about Jo & Looking Outside at http://www.looking-outside.com/ (www.looking-outside.com). Connect...

In this episode of “Keen On”, Andrew is joined by Dave Pell, the author of “Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year That Wouldn't End”. Dave Pell is the writer of the Nextdraft newsletter. Each morning he visits about 75 news sites, and from that swirling nightmare of information quicksand, Dave plucks the top ten most fascinating items of the day, which he delivers with a fast, pithy wit that will make your computer device vibrate with delight. No bots. No computer algorithms. Visit our website: https://lithub.com/story-type/keen-on/ Email Andrew: a.keen@me.com Watch the show live on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ajkeen Watch the show live on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ankeen/ Watch the show live on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lithub Watch the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LiteraryHub/videos Subscribe to Andrew's newsletter: https://andrew2ec.substack.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Where's the world going? It feels dangerous to make predictions, but understanding the future of work and life is part of Hello Monday's mission. So this week, Jessi sits down with two experts on the future: Alison Rosenthal, the founder and Managing Partner of Leadout Captial, and by Dave Pell, the Managing Editor of the Internet. In a conversation inspired by LinkedIn's Big Ideas for 2022, the trio share their predictions for what's next. 

Author and journalist Dave Pell joins the show to discuss his book, Please Scream Inside Your Heart, and the state of journalism and the news today. Dave is also the author of the NextDraft -- one of Joe's favorite newsletters that combines a comprehensive look at the news with a touch of humor. Joe and Alex talk to Dave about how we're supposed to process everything that seems like it's going on so fast -- and what we're all supposed to do about those feelings of impending doom. Next Draft Book: Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Host Reed Galen is joined by Dave Pell, the self described “Managing Editor of the internet”, Writer and Publisher of the NextDraft newsletter, and author of the new book, Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End. They discuss social media and how it seems to be anything but social, the snowballing failures of messaging that have gotten our nation to where it is at this moment in time, and what it takes to set seemingly everything aside for the sake of the pro-democracy coalition. You can subscribe to Dave's newsletter at NextDraft.com and find his new book, Please Scream Inside Your Heart, at PleaseScream.com.

Welcome to episode #801 of Six Pixels of Separation. Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - Episode #801 - Host: Mitch Joel. One of the best newsletters online is NextDraft. It is a a quick and entertaining look at the day's most fascinating news curated and with commentary by Dave Pell (who has self-appointed himself as Managing Editor of the Internet). Dave has been writing about news, technology, and media since 1999. He's been news obsessed since he was child. He has also been investing in and advising startups since the earliest days of the internet, and has written extensively on the role of technology in our lives. He is a graduate of UC Berkeley and the Harvard Graduate School of Education. He sits on the board of 826 Valencia and is a longtime advisor to the Center for Investigative Reporting. This is his first book: Please Scream Inside Your Heart - Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End, and it's a cathartic and humorous ride through the unnerving, maddening hellscape of the 2020 press cycle, reestablishing the line between "real" news and real life. "Fueled by the wisdom and advice of his two Holocaust-surviving parents, for whom parts of this story were all too familiar, Pell puts the key stories of 2020 into context with pith and punch - highlighting turning points that widened America's divisions, deepened our obsession with a media-driven civil war, and nearly knocked the country off its tracks. Pell also examines the role of technology in society—and how we somehow built the exact opposite of what we thought we were building. Why did the lies spread faster than the truth? How did our tech addiction contribute to the nightmare? Why do you feel a vibration in your pocket right now?" Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:07:54. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Dave Pell. NextDraft. Please Scream Inside Your Heart - Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End. Follow Dave on Twitter. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'.    

Stand Up is a daily podcast. I book,host,edit, post and promote new episodes with brilliant guests every day. Please subscribe now for as little as 5$ and gain access to a community of over 800 awesome, curious, kind, funny, brilliant, generous souls Check out StandUpwithPete.com to learn more 38 minutes As President of Brady, Kris Brown combines a lifelong background in policy, law, and grassroots activism with considerable strategic management expertise to help forge the direction of the organization's programs and ensure the successful impact of its national and field assets. A veteran of gun violence prevention work, Ms. Brown started her career on Capitol Hill working for Rep. Jim Moran, advocating for the bill that would eventually become the groundbreaking Brady Bill requiring background checks on federally licensed gun sales. Ms. Brown has also served as the Chief Legal Officer to a publicly traded company based in Switzerland and as a lawyer practicing at the law firm Weil, Gotshal & Manges. She lives in Arlington, VA, with her two teenage daughters. KRIS BROWN AT BRADY At Brady, she has helped shape the conversation on gun violence as a national health care crisis, launched the organization's groundbreaking safe storage campaign to End Family Fire, and formed Brady's Team Enough youth initiative after the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre in Parkland, FL. KRIS BROWN ON COMMON GROUND A noted speaker and media commentator, Ms. Brown was featured in the November 2018 TIME magazine cover article, “Guns in America,” in which she noted that Brady is working to move the discussion of gun violence beyond the polarizing politics in American life. “There's a huge amount of common ground on this issue in this country and I hope we're finally at a tipping point where we can move forward with legislation and [programs] that actually protect people, and are entirely consistent with the Second Amendment.” ------------------------------------------------- 57 minutes Dave Pell has been writing about news, technology, and media since 1999. He writes NextDraft, a newsletter offering a quick and entertaining look at the day's most fascinating news. He's been news obsessed since he was child and he is known to his readers as the Internet's Managing Editor. He has also been investing in and advising startups since the earliest days of the internet, and has written extensively on the role of technology in our lives. He is a graduate of UC Berkeley and the Harvard Graduate School of Education. He sits on the board of 826 Valencia and is a longtime advisor to the Center for Investigative Reporting. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Check out all things Jon Carroll Follow and Support Pete Coe Pete on YouTube Pete on Twitter Pete On Instagram Pete Personal FB page Stand Up with Pete FB page  

Today: Greg is in Montana for the week and Sarah is steering the ship and good lord, this is why I always have a co-host - I am 100% not a solo artist. Also today we played our interview with the hilarious Dave Pell, publisher of The NextDraft Newsletter, and author of the upcoming book Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End! Have a great day all, back tomorrow with Rick Emerson!

Dave Pell is a modern-day columnist, meaning that his column is independently produced and distributed as a daily newsletter (NextDraft). He's been meaning to write a book for about 30 years, and finally got around to it. Please Scream Inside Your Heart is his take on the insanity of 2020.  Dave on Instagram and Twitter. Find me on Instagram or Twitter. Please consider supporting this podcast. This Amazon affiliate link kicks a few bucks back my way. Intro music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; "The Message," by Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five; "Smoke Alarm," by Carsie Blanton. 

We are lucky to be joined by Dave Pell, the reader, writer, and all-around creative behind the internet's longest running big-time newsletter, Next Draft. In this far-reaching conversation, we talk about how Dave shows up consistently to do high quality work, his daily routines, mental health and news consumption, running your own little internet empire,… The post Dave Pell: Managing Editor… Of The Internet appeared first on The Growth Equation.

“It has to feel like it's a creation, not just a collection. That keeps you from getting burned out, because if you're passionate about what you're making, then you wake up the next morning and you just need to push that publish button.” — Dave PellIf you're a news(letter) connoisseur, then you likely already know — and love — NextDraft. Every weekday, at around 12pm PT, a new edition delights the ol' inbox: 10 of the most fascinating stories of the day, lovingly ensconced in a writeup filled with biting observations and funny quips. That voice belongs to Dave Pell — “the internet's managing editor” and author of the book “Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year That Wouldn't End” (out in November 2021). Dave is a lean, one-man operation who's been curating email newsletters well before they were a trend, and he had much to share about his daily curation process, why he sees himself as a columnist, self-care for news curators, and where he gets all those puns. Highlights, inspiration and key learnings:Origins (and meaning of) NextDraftThe power of email: it's asynchronous and is one feed you have control overHow the Trump years and news cycles impact(ed) his readershipHow Dave puts together NextDraft, including sourcing stories, building the email, and any help he getsHow he comes up with such punny copy — and his favorite pun he's ever written (oh, it's good)The joys and hazards of being the internet's managing editorDealing with burnout as a news curatorWhat's challenging about working on The Next DraftA peek inside his first book, an overview of the surreal year that was 2020How writing a book is different from writing a newsletterWhat it's like being in a two-curator household (his wife, Gina, is a founder of The What)

Dave Pell has been writing online for almost as long as the internet has existed. His popular newsletter, NextDraft, has over 140,000 subscribers. NextDraft covers the day's ten most fascinating news stories, delivered with a fast and pithy wit.Dave has been a syndicated writer on NPR, Gizmodo, Forbes, and Huffington Post. He earned his bachelor's degree in English from U.C. Berkeley, and his master's in education from Harvard.Besides being a prolific writer, Dave is also the Managing Partner at Arba, LLC. For more than a decade, Arba has been angel investing in companies like Open Table, GrubHub, Marin Software, Hotel Tonight, Joyus, and Liftopia.In this episode, you'll learn: How Dave merged his two writing passions into a successful product The key to building a strong relationship with your audience How Dave dramatically increased signups to NextDraft Links & Resources Flicker Unsplash Fareed Zakaria Jim Rome The Skimm Morning Brew The Hustle Spark Loop Sam Spratt Dave Pell's Links Dave Pell on Twitter NextDraft newsletter Dave's new book: Please Scream Inside Your Heart NextDraft app PleaseScream.com Episode Transcript[00:00:00] Dave:If you have something to say in one way or another, the internet is a great place for people to figure out a way to receive it. So, that's pretty powerful and still excites me. I still press publish with the same enthusiasm now than I did when the internet first launched.[00:00:23] Nathan:In this episode I talk to Dave Pell, who has been writing for basically as long as the internet has been around. He's been an investor since the early days. He's been writing since the.com bust, and even before then. He writes his popular newsletter with 140,000 subscribers called Next Draft.We have this really fun conversation about writing. His writing process. How he grew the newsletter. Bunch of other things that he cares about. Even a few things that I was interested in, like he doesn't have his face in photos on the internet very much. He has his avatar instead. So, just getting into why that is.He also has a book coming out soon. It's called Scream Inside Your Heart, which is a fun reference to some memes from 2020. So, enjoy the episode. There's a lot in there.Dave. Welcome to the show.[00:01:12] Dave:Thanks a lot for having me on.[00:01:14] Nathan:Okay. So you've been doing this for a long time. You've been writing on the internet since the .com era. So, I'm curious maybe just to kick things off, what have you seen—I realize this is a giant question.What have you seen change? What are some of those trends that you've seen, that you either really miss from the early days, or some of those things that you've held onto from the early days of the internet, that you're really still enjoying?[00:01:46] Dave:Yeah, that is a pretty huge question, but I'll give it a shot. The thing I miss from the early days of the internet is that our democracy was not being destroyed by the internet in the early days of the internet. So, everything we thought we were building, basically it turned out to be the opposite of what actually happened.The part about the internet that I still feel is there, although a little bit less so because of the big companies have sort of taken over all the platforms and stuff, is just the idea that someone can have a passion or a creative output that they want to share with the world, and they can mold internet tools to fit their skills, and then use the internet to broadcast that out, and still become sort of pretty popular withour the “OK” of some gatekeeper at a publication, or at a television studio, or whatever.The indie spirit of the internet still lives on. It ebbs and flows, and has a lot of different iterations. But that was the thing that excited me the most when I first played with the internet. And that's the thing that continues to excite me the most now.[00:02:57] Nathan:I always think of the newsletter, and your newsletter in particular, is that indie spirit. Is that what you see most commonly in newsletters? Or are you seeing it in other places as well?[00:03:10] Dave:I see it in podcasts. I see it in newsletters. I see it in people sharing their art, sharing their photography on Flicker, and up through the more modern tools. I go to a site called Unsplash all the time to look at images, and it's just basically regular people sharing their images.Some of them are professional photographers, some aren't, and they're getting their work out there, and then some of them probably get jobs out of it and stuff like that. So, just the idea that you can have some kind of creative output and have a place to share it. And try to get an audience for that is really inspiring.It's a lot harder than it used to be because there's a few billion more people trying to get attention also, and because there are more gatekeepers now. So, you have to, hope that your app meets Apple's guidelines, or that different products you might want to share on the internet have to meet certain classifications now, whereas they might not have in the very early days of the internet. But in general, if you have something to say in one way or another, the internet is a great place for people to figure out a way to receive it.So, that's pretty powerful, and, still excites me. I still press published with the same enthusiasm now that I did when the internet first launched.[00:04:32] Nathan:Yeah. So let's talk about the main project that you have right now, which is Next Draft. Give listeners the 30-second pitch on Next Draft, of what it is.[00:04:46] Dave:Sure. Basically I call myself the managing editor of the internet. What I basically do is a personality-driven news newsletter where I cover the day's most fascinating news. I cover 10 stories. A lot of times in each section there's more than one link. I give my take on the day's news, each individual story, and then I link off to the source for the full story.When I first launched it, I called it Dinner Party Prep. I provided enough information for you to sort of get the gist of the story. And if there's topics you want to dig deeper, you just click and, you know, go get the story yourself. So that's sort of the overview of it.[00:05:27] Nathan:Nice. And you said that you're obsessed with the news maybe in a somewhat, even unhealthy way. why, where did that come from?[00:05:36] Dave:Yeah. Well, nothing, nothing about my relationship with the internet is only somewhat unhealthy. it's all extremely unhealthy, but, both my parents are Holocaust survivors and, when I was growing up, news was just a very big part of our daily lives, especially when my three older sisters moved out and it was just the three of us, that was sort of our mode of communication.We talked about the news. We watched the news together. Fareed Zakaria is basically the sun my parents always wanted. but so I got really into the news and being able to connect the news to, our everyday lives, which of course my parents had experienced as children and teens and Europe during world war II.And also reading between the lines about why certain politicians might be saying something, why stories are getting published a certain way. So I just got really into that and I've always been into a and college, you know, I, I majored in English, but if we had minors at Berkeley, I would have minored in journalism.I took a bunch of journalism courses. I've always been really into the media, but not so much as quite an insider where I go to work for a newspaper, but more observing, the news and providing sort of a lit review of what's happening and what has momentum in the news. So I sorta got addicted to it and, Also as a writer.My favorite thing to do is counter punch. I like to have somebody give me a topic and then I like to be able to quickly share my take, or make a joke or create a funny headline about that content. So I sorta took those two passions of the way I like to write. I like to write on deadline. I like to write fast and I like to counter punch and the content that I like, which is news, and I sort of merged those two things and created a product, and a pretty cool suite of internet tools to support that.[00:07:35] Nathan:Yeah. So that makes sense that you've identified the constraints that match your style and made something exactly that fits it. the deadline, like having, he, you know, coming out with something on a daily basis, is more than a lot of creators want to do. so what's your process there?[00:07:55] Dave:Yeah. I mean, I should emphasize that I do it every day. Not because I think it's some incredible draw for readers to get Daily Content. I do it every day because I'm addicted to it. If my newsletter had five stories in it, instead of 10, it would do better. If my newsletter came out three days a week instead of five days a week, I'm sure it would do better.If it came out once a week, it would do even better then you know, also if I had a more marketable or not marketable, but a more, business-oriented topic that was more narrow, it would do better. I used to write a newsletter that was just on tech and it was. Really popular in the internet professional community back in the first boom, I had about 50,000 subscribers and there were probably about 52,000 internet professionals.So I just like writing about what I want to write about and I'm addicted to pressing the publish button and I'm just addicted to the process. So I do it because of that. I'm not sure that would be my general advice to somebody trying to market or promote a newsletter.[00:09:01] Nathan:Yep. Are there other iterations, either ever before or things that you tried that you realized like, oh, that's not a fit for your personality, your writing style?[00:09:09] Dave:Yeah. When I first started it, I actually, I'm an angel investor also and have been since, probably right after Google and Yahoo launched. so a while, and I used to, my passion has always been writing, so I wanted to mix writing into that, process. So I would send out 10. Daily stories, but they were all tech news related to the CEOs of the companies I worked with and a few of their employees, so that they wouldn't have to spend their time reading the news or worrying about competitors or worry about what the latest trends in tech, where I would give it to them.And they could focus on doing their jobs and that sorta got shared and got out. so I did that for a few years. really, that was my iteration. I should've kept the brand. It was called David Netflix. not that it was a great name, but I've shifted brands about 40 times in my life. Cause I love branding and naming.I that's another, maybe this is more of a cautionary tale than a lesson and newsletter marketing. I would stick with a brand if anybody has the possibility of doing that, that was a big mistake I've made over the years is having multiple brands. But when the bus came, the first internet bust, I basically was writing an obituary column every day and about companies that had failed.So I just decided, I wanted to expand it and I knew I was interested in much broader topics than just tech news. So I expanded it to all news, a critical point that, really changed Next Draft and got it to catch on and become more popular was when I decided to focus on making it more personality driven and less, less overwhelmingly, providing an overwhelming level of coverage.I used to think that I had to provide all the news in the day because people would sort of, depend on me to provide their news. I was sort of selling myself as your trusted news source. So I would include a lot of stories that I didn't have anything to say about because they were huge news, you know, an embassy closed in Iran or whatever.That was huge international news, but I didn't necessarily have anything to say about that that day. So after a while I decided, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to limit it to 10 items. And I'm going to focus that on what I think is the most fascinating and think of it less like a curation tool and more like, a, modern day column.I think if the column newspaper column were invented today, it would look a lot like Next Draft people would sort of share their takes and then provide links off for more information. once I did that, it was a big change. People started signing up much more readily and, once I stopped trying to be exhaustive.[00:11:56] Nathan:That makes a lot of sense to me. I think that that's something you see from a lot of creators is that they're, they're trying to find some model. That's like, this is my idea of what people should want, you know, rather than what they end up doing, eventually it's coming to, it's like, okay, forget all of that.This is what I want. And I'm going to make that. And then people like me can find and follow it. And people who don't can, you know, do their thing. Can you go find one of the other million sources on the internet?[00:12:21] Dave:Yeah. When I think of the people that I like to follow or have followed forever on the internet, all of them are that ladder. They just do it their way. They have a design, they want, they stick to their guns. They say what they feel like saying. they decide. what the personality of the product is.And, they move within that. I always find that to be the most interesting thing, especially when it comes to something like newsletters. I really think newsletters are more like a radio talk shows than they are like other internet content, podcasts to a certain degree as well. But I always feel like I listened to are used to listen a lot to this radio, sports caster named Jim Rome.And whenever he would have a new city that he was launching and he would always give the same speech on the Monday that they launched saying, just give me a week. You might not.Get the vibe of what we're doing today. You might think it's okay, but not great, but just give it a week and listen, and then decide if you like it or not.And I sort of feel like that's how newsletters are your relationship with your readers sort of creates this, sort of insider-y voice and communication that, you, it takes a little while to get into the rhythm of getting it. But once you do, then it's like this familiar voice or this familiar friend that you feel like, even if you didn't read it for a few weeks, you can start a conversation with that person right away easily.That's how I think the voice of a newsletter is most effective. So that's why I've always thought of it. More of what I do is sort of a textual talk radio, more so than a blog or some other format[00:14:01] Nathan:What do you think, or what would you say to someone who maybe had 10 or 20,000 subscribers and felt like their newsletter had gone a bit stale and maybe their relationship to it had gotten a bit stale or they're in this, this position of writing things that no longer have their voice, how would you coach them through like bringing their voice and personality back into it?[00:14:22] Dave:I mean, it's definitely hard. it's hard doing something that you do alone and, something that is often hard to really get off the ground or get to grow, especially when you're on a platform like the internet, where every day, somebody does something and 10 seconds later, they're like internet famous and you're trying day after day.So, I mean, the first thing. Is that you really have to be interested in what you you're passionate about. and focus in on that, because that will alleviate a lot of that stress. Like, do I feel like sending it today? I'm a too burnt out. What's the point? I mean, not that those feelings don't happen. I had those feelings as recently as an hour ago, when I press publish, I have those feelings and disappointments constantly, you know, that's part of being a creator of any kind.Maybe that word is sort of, sort of goofy, but anybody who's putting themselves out there and putting content out, you know, you have that feeling all the time. If you're an indie, and you're doing it all day in front of the computer by yourself, then that's even more powerful because, you know, if you work at a big company or everybody's working on the same goal, or even in a small group, you can sort of support each other and, maybe even bullshit each other at some cases where, oh, no, this really matters.You know, where, if you're by yourself, that has to be pretty self-sustaining or self-sustaining. I do have a friend or two that I always share blurbs with who, one of my friends Rob's, he proves almost all of my blurbs, so it's nice to have that virtual office mate. He's not really officially part of Next Draft, but you know, I don't think I would do it as easily or as, for as long if it weren't for him because he's like my virtual friend on the internet that says, oh, come on, let's get it out today or whatever.So I think that's helpful to have a support team or a couple people you can count on to sort of give you a boost when you need it. But the key really is, is that it's gotta be something that you are passionate about, both in terms of the product and in terms of what you're focusing on, because if you feel strongly about it, then it really.I don't want to say it doesn't matter if people enjoy it, you should take cues from your readers. What are they clicking on? What are they reading? What are they responding to? But at the core, it's gotta be you because that's what gets you through those down points? you know, I had a weird thing because I write about news.The general news, world basically benefited dramatically from the Trump era because everybody was habitually turning on their news, 24, 7, and refreshing and Whitey and Washington post and checking Twitter every two seconds to see what crazy thing happened next. And we're all poor sorta,[00:17:01] Nathan:Wreck to watch.[00:17:02] Dave:So everybody was really into it and it created.Unbelievable platform for people to become media stars. You know, Trump was bad for democracy, but he was great for media. Great for creating new voices out there. whether we like it or not. for me, it was different because I wrote about all news. I wouldn't say I was apolitical, but I wasn't heavily political.The Next Draft had plenty of readers from both sides of the aisle. when Trump came around, it was like one story every day, basically. So it really limited. I would get emails from longtime readers all the time that said, Hey, can't you cover something other than Trump every day?And I say, Hey, if you can find the story for me, I'll cover it. This is what every journalist is on. Now, the people who used to cover the secret service around Trump, the people who used to cover sports are not talking about Trump because of a pandemic relation ship to it. The people who aren't entertainment are talking about Trump because they can't believe that anybody voted for him, whatever the issue was, every dinner party was about Trump.So it was really a bummer for my brand and my product. Actually, it became boring in some ways to me to have the same story every day. And it became, I think frustrating to my readers.But during that era, when it was happening, I had to make a decision. Do I become more political and go full on with this?Or do I sort of try to. Do what I would call a falsely unbiased view or a, you know, false equivalence view that we saw in the media where there's both sides to every story. And you have to pretend they're both accurate, including one guy saying to put disinfectant into your veins. And the other person's saying to wear a mask and take a vaccine, but those things get treated as equal somehow because the president said it.And I really decided, you know, more important than keeping readers is that I'm true to my own sort of ethical standards. In a moment that called for it, at least for me. So I became more political. went into it and I said, what I believe and still believe is the truth, you know, about what was happening with Trump and Trumpism and our slide towards authoritarianism.And I know that this is a podcast more about newsletterish than it is about politics or news, but I'm just sharing that because that's the kind of thing that kept me going. and the people who really cared about what I was writing, appreciated it and would email me and say they got something out of that.And most importantly, my mom would say, yeah, you made the right call. Or my dad would say, yeah, you got that. Right. And ultimately, When it became a sort of a bummer period for me, which I would say 2020 was because of all the horrible news. And, I was writing a book about the year. So I was like living, July of 20, 20, well writing about March of 2020, which I don't recommend for anybody's emotional health.And I just had to think like, what's really important to me. Yes. I want to be funny, which I try to be in my newsletter every day. I want to be read my narcissism is as strong as ever, but ultimately I want to be able to look myself in the reflection of the, darken screen on the rare times that it is dark and say like, yeah, you told the truth and that kept me going there.So I think whatever your brand is, you know, it can be a newsletter about guitars, but if you have that sort of passion, And you have something you want to say, and you think is important to say it sort of gets you through those levels and your motivation. And if it's not getting you through the lows and the motivation, there's nothing wrong with saying, Hey man, this is not worth it.I'm going to go try to make something else. You know, it doesn't have to be, you don't have to beat a dead horse.[00:20:51] Nathan:On the political side. Are there specific things that you felt like it costs you opportunities that it lost you? Because I think a lot of creators, whether they talk about, you know, finance or photography or whatever, I'll see these things. And they're like this either directly relates to me and my audience and I feel like I should take a stand on it.Or it's like a broader macro issue that I feel like we should talk about. And when you do, then there's immediately, you know, somewhere between three and 300 responses of like, we didn't follow you for the politics, you know, or like something like that. And your Instagram, DMS, or newsletter replies or whatever.[00:21:24] Dave:Yeah. it costs me a lot. Definitely it costs me readers or subscribers. It costs me, psychic pain because I was locked into a story that was just overwhelmingly, emotionally painful, really, and shocking and difficult to understand all the things that cause you sort of emotional exhaustion. We're in the Trump story, especially in 2020, when it became a story about our own health and our kids' health.And the frustration level just went through the roof. for me, professionalizing that content actually helps create a bit of a barrier to the feelings about it. Some of my good friends were probably more bummed during 2020 than I was because when the latest crazy story or depressing story would happen, I felt I had to. Ingest that content and then come up with, something cogent to say about it. And maybe hopefully funny to make it a little bit of sugar to take the medicine and then get it out to people. So I've always felt that being able to do that, sorta created a barrier between myself and actually feeling something.So that's another thing I like about the newsletter probably at least unconsciously. but yeah, there was a lot of costs in terms of readers, for sure. Hate mail. but there always is, you know, Today. I would say I get much more hate mail from the far left. If that's what you want to call them. People who feel like every joke is like an incredible triggering a front to their existence or any hint that you mentioned somebody as attractive.I've gotten hate mail because I implied that Beyonce is appearance was part of her brand. I mean, it's totally crazy, but, It's those extremes. You have to be able to turn off. You know, a friend of mine used to work at a major, be the editor of a major American newspaper. And he said every Friday they would get together and they would play the craziest, calls to the editor.They had a call line. In addition to, you could send a letter or you could call, leave a voicemail about something you were upset about in the coverage. And they would just gather around and have drinks on Friday. Listen to this because of course the people who are calling this line are almost self-selecting themselves as a little bit wacko and their takes were usually pretty extreme.The internet, Twitter, social media, Provides, greases the wheels for those people to be more prevalent in our lives. But I think it's really important to know that that's a real minority of people, somebody who sent you a hate mail, that your joke was so offensive, or they can't believe you mentioned that people ever watch pornography on the internet or any of these other things, it's this tiny minority of people.And then it's one step crazier that they felt like they had to contact you. So that's a really hard thing. I think about being split, particularly the newsletter game, because anybody can hit reply and you're going to get many more replies from people with crazy complaints, than you are from people with really thoughtful responses.Not that those don't come and those are valuable and I love getting those, but you get many more from people that just have really bizarre. I mean I could list probably for hours to crazy things that people send me that they're mad about, you know,[00:24:50] Nathan:Is there something specific that you do? Like one thing when I get those replies, if they're just like completely off the wall or abusive or something like that, I just scroll down and then click their unsubscribe link because, you know, they're never going to know, and then I just have to show up in their inbox[00:25:07] Dave:Right.[00:25:08] Nathan:There's something that you do.[00:25:09] Dave:That's not a bad strategy. I like that. I do do that occasionally for sure. occasionally I'll just go to Gmail and just, create a filter for that email to automatically go to my trash. if it's like a hardcore right-winger, that's telling me how stupid I am about ivermectin and that, you know, people should be taking horse dewormer and I'm just not getting the truth.And that Trump is awesome and that, Whatever. I usually just delete, honestly, because I don't see a big benefit to replying to somebody, especially if it's like a rabbit email, you know, they're looking for a reply, they want the conflict. A lot of people sleep easy with conflict. That's one of the lessons of the internet that I learned when I was first starting on the internet, you know, David edix sort sorta became popular because somebody that had a blog with a similar name, that I hadn't heard of, complained that I sort of stole his name because his name was also Dave.And I had got like, probably about three or 400 emails saying, you know, with expletive saying what a horrible person I was. And I also got about 3000 subscribers and at the time I had about 30, so. I didn't know how to respond. I felt like, wow. Number one, I didn't know that guys had the product with the same name.Number two. My name was different enough. Number two or three were both named Dave. I mean, who cares? You know, and plus I don't want to be attacked by anybody. So your first reaction is to respond and a slightly older, although not noticeably these days with my gray beard, slightly older friend of mine who had been in tech a little longer, said, don't respond.This guy lives for conflict. You guys are going to fight. There's going to be this public thing. You're going to be up all night and he's going to never sleep so easy. So, I took that to heart and didn't respond. And I, I think about that a lot when I get rabid emails from people, Mike exception, actually probably my weak point really is from, more my side of the political spectrum, where people who are generally liberal, but are just so extreme for me.In terms of being triggered or having a joke, be every joke, be inappropriate. That those people, I actually do feel like I want to respond to because, I, I don't think I can really motivate or move, somebody who was on the opposite end of the spectrum and is sending me hate aggressive, hate mail, but maybe I can move somebody who's just a little bit different than me, or a little bit more extreme.I will respond to those, although I'm usually sorry. The one other thing I always respond to is if people have been reading, they say, oh, I've been reading you for years. And, I wanted to ask you a couple of questions about this book that you wrote before ordering it. And I'm like, just order the damn book. that's probably my most common email to people these days. It's actually remarkable how many people says, wow, I I've been reading you for years. I share you with all my friends. something, when my sons come home from college where it's always talking about, Dave said this, Dave said that, before I buy your book, I just wanted to ask you a couple of questions to make sure it's going to be for me.I'm like I worked on something for an hour and it's like, your family is talking about it. What, just by the thing I worked on for a year, you know? So those kind of things, personal frustration, I respond.[00:28:37] Nathan:Yeah, that makes sense. okay. I'd love to talk about the book some more, but before we get into that, there's two things I want to talk about. The first one is like, how do you measure success for the newsletter? What's the thing that you'd like to, cause I don't think it's, you're pursuing the monetary side for this.It sounds like the monetary side comes from investing and, and then what's success for the newsletter.[00:28:59] Dave:I mean, I have had right now, I I'm just marketing my, my own stuff. And during the pandemic I marketed non-profits, but, that had to do with either the pandemic or, the democracy issues that we were facing. but I have made decent money from selling straight sponsorships. Year-long sponsorships to people, which I highly recommend.I think some of the ads that people put into his letters that go by clicks or whatever, unless you have a massive audience, it's hard to make much money, but if you pitch to some company that is a like-minded brand, Hey, you're going to be my only brand for a year. And anytime you have special events, I'm going to mention it.Then you can say, okay, you have like, you know, 20,000 readers or a hundred thousand readers that can make a difference to a brand to say, yeah, it's like a rounding air show. We'll give you 20 grand or a hundred grand or wherever it comes in there that you can actually make a decent. Living in terms of writing.So that always worked better for me, but no, my, my internet life is really all about narcissism and, clicks, you know, the dopamine, I just want reads. I'd rather you subscribe to my newsletter than pitch me your startup company. I just, that's what I want the most. So more numbers, more opens, more reads, more subscribers.And unfortunately that's probably the hardest thing to get also, especially in a product that is sort of viral. I think newsletters are sort of viral, but it's better if you have a team and some tools to really get it going. That's, you know, sites like the Skimm morning brew and the hustle. They have teams that are really growth hacking and focusing on that and having rewards programs and ambassador programs.The reason you see that is because.Newsletters themselves are not really inherently that viral. Yes. Somebody can forward it to one person or whatever, but it's not as viral as a lot of other forms of content where you can click a button and share it with all of your followers, like a Facebook post or a tweet.So yeah, the thing that matters to me most is probably the hardest to get in the newsletter game, but that's the truth[00:31:10] Nathan:Yeah. Well, I think the, the point on like newsletters don't have a distribution engine. There's no Facebook newsfeed, YouTube algorithm equivalent for newsletters. And so it really relies on either you posting your content somewhere else, whether it's Twitter or YouTube or medium or something that has an algorithm or your readers saying like, oh, I read Next Draft.You should too. There's not really something else in there. Have you looked at, or I guess if you have thoughts on that, you comments on it, but then also have you looked at launching an ambassador program or, or an actual referral program?[00:31:44] Dave:Yeah, I've thought about him. And now over the last year, there's been a few tools that have come out a few. I think X people from sites like morning view Ru, and some other sites that have sort of perfected some of these marketing programs have, sort of come out with these tools. I've messed around with them a little bit.Some of them still require I find, some technical ones. so I, I have like an engineer who works with me on Next Draft, like as a freelance basis every now and then, but it's not always easy for me to launch stuff that requires a lot of a moment to moment technical support, and management, because it's just me using a lot of, they're customized, but they're over the counter tools.So I've thought about a lot of them, but I really haven't tried it that much.I want to though I do want to do that. I would like to do one of those programs, especially where you get credit for referrals. I think that's the best kind of model. So there's one called spark loop.[00:32:51] Nathan:Yeah, we actually, I invested in spark loops, so we[00:32:54] Dave:Okay.[00:32:55] Nathan:Decent portion of that business, so good.[00:32:58] Dave:Oh, nice. Yeah. That one, if it was just slightly easier, I know that it's probably difficult to make it easier because, there's so many pieces. They have to have your subscribers. I have to have my subscribers, but that is, does seem like a good product. And especially if they can, I think expand into like letting a person sell a product or whatever, get credited for sharing products that can be even bigger.But yeah, that kind of stuff is really powerful for sure. And I, I do want to get into that. it's more just inertia that I it's just a matter of sitting there for the, an amount of hours that it requires to get it going.But I do think that's a great thing for newsletter writers to do, and I'm pretty surprised that more newsletter platforms don't build it right in.I think that'll probably change over time too. Maybe you guys will get acquired by.[00:33:48] Nathan:Yep. No, that makes sense. I know for convert kit, we wanted to build it in, it looks at the amount of time that it would take and then said like let's invest in a , you know, and then roll it into our offering.[00:33:59] Dave:Yeah, it's hard. It's hard not to take that stuff personally, too, you know, for people that do newsletters, you think you're going to put a thing on there and say, Hey, you know, it's just me here and you always read my newsletter and click. I know you love me so much. Can you just do this to get a free whatever?And it's, you know, sometimes not that many people click, you know, or other times like they click just as long as there's the free item. So there's a lot of ways to get depressed. Like I had things where I say, Hey, the first a hundred people who do this, get a free t-shirt or whatever next strap t-shirt.And those hundred people will literally do what I asked them to do in like 34 seconds, you know? And then it like stops after that. The next time you ask them, if there's not a t-shirt. But it's not you, you know, if you go to a baseball game or a lawyer game or whatever, you know, people sit there, they don't even cheer as much for the team as they cheer when the guy comes out with the t-shirt gun.So it's like, people love t-shirts more than they're ever going to love you. And you have to go into these things with that in mind. there's no way, even if it's, even if you're XX large and the t-shirt is, you know, petite, it's still worth more than you are. And the average mind of the average person.So you have to go into all of these things thinking, I hope this works like crazy, but if it doesn't tomorrow, I open up the browser and start writing.[00:35:19] Nathan:Yeah. That's very true. I want to talk about the growth of the newsletter. I was reading something, which I realized later was back in 2014, that you were at around 160,000 subscribers. I imagine it's quite a bit larger than that now. And then I'd love to hear some of the inflection points of growth.[00:35:35] Dave:Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure. I might've, I don't know if I lied in 2014, but now I have about,[00:35:41] Nathan:Quoted it wrong.[00:35:42] Dave:No, you might've got it right. I might've exaggerated. Maybe that was a including app downloads and a few other things. Yeah. I have about 140,000 or so now, so that would be making that a pretty horrible seven years now.You're depressing me.Your listeners should just stop, stop writing newsletters. It's not worth the depression[00:36:02] Nathan:Just give up now[00:36:03] Dave:Yeah. And by all means if Nathan goals do not pick up. no, yeah, I probably have it 140,000 on newsletter. Made my newsletter. It's hard to believe in this era of newsletters actually, but when I first launched Next Draft, I noticed that even people who would send in testimonials or that I would ask for testimonials would say, basically something to the extent that even though email is horrible, this is the one newsletter I I'd sign up for whatever.And I kept thinking, man, that's a bummer that I'm starting out at this deficit, that people have a negative feeling about the medium. So I, since then I've always made it my goal to. Have the content available wherever people are. So the newsletter is certainly the main way that people get next job, but there's an app for the iPhone and the iPad there.That's the first thing I launched because I wanted to have an alternative for people who just hate email too much. So now you go to the landing page, it's like, Hey, if you don't like email, here's another version. I have a blog version. I have an apple news version. I have an RSS version. I'm lucky enough to have a really good, WordPress custom WordPress install that I just push one button and it pushes it out to all of those things.But I am, I'm a big proponent of just meeting people where they are. even, as an example, I recently launched a sort of a substance. Version of my newsletter under the radar. but when I redo my site, I'm going to make that more clear because if people already subscribed to like 10 sub stacks and they're using their aggregator and they already have their email saved and they can just click a button, it's like, I don't care.You know, it takes me five extra minutes to paste my content into sub stack. So I just want the reads. I don't really care about how they read it or whether they read it.[00:37:55] Nathan:Yeah. That's fascinating. So then let's shift gears a little bit. I want to hear about the book. first I wanna hear about the title. Would you have it on your shirt?[00:38:03] Dave:Yeah. That's pretty embarrassing. I swear. I didn't know it was video today, but I do have a shirt[00:38:06] Nathan:You're good.[00:38:07] Dave:Otherwise I wouldn't have worn. This would have worn my Nathan Barry's shirt.[00:38:12] Nathan:That's right. It's in the mail actually. It's[00:38:15] Dave:Oh, good, good.[00:38:16] Nathan:Big photo of my face.[00:38:17] Dave:Yeah. Convert kit. My wife converted to Judaism before we got married. So I have my own convert kit.[00:38:23] Nathan:There you go. Exactly. so I want to hear like what the book is about and then particularly where the title came from,[00:38:30] Dave:Sure.[00:38:31] Nathan:It made me laugh a lot when I heard it.[00:38:33] Dave:Oh, cool. That's good. That's a good start then. yeah, the title comes from, in July of the, of 2020 when the pandemic was really setting in and becoming a reality for everybody. this amusement park outside of Tokyo in the shadow of Mount Fuji called the Fuji queue. amusement park reopened.And they found that even though everybody w everybody was wearing masks, people were screaming so much on some of the rides, especially the Fujiyama roller coaster, which was their scariest ride, that they were worried about germs spread. So they sort of put signs around the amusement park saying, no screaming, you can come, you can ride and have fun, but keep your mask on adults scream.And it sort of became a little minor social media thing in Japan, where people were sort of making fun of them like, oh, they're telling us not to scream. How can anybody not scream on the Fujiyama roller coaster? So in response, the, park management had to have their executives with perfectly quaffed hair and tie and colored shirts and masks on ride the roller coaster with a webcam facing them the whole time without moving a muscle.Cracking a smile or grimacing or screaming. And then at the end of the ride, when the rollercoaster stops, it says, please Scream Inside Your Heart.And that was always my favorite meme of, 2020. It went really viral. There was like t-shirts. aside from mine, there were posters memes. It sort of went crazy for about a week or two, which by 2020 standards is a pretty long time for a meme to last.And I just thought that made sense as a title for the book, because that's sort of how we felt, all year that I dunno if we were screaming in our heart, but we were certainly screaming into a void. Like no matter what we sat or yelled on social media or complained to our family members or friends, it just kept getting worse.The year just kept getting worse. And, so the idea is that this book sort of, now you're free to sort of let out the scream. And the book is it's about 2020, certainly, but it's really about the issues that led us to 2020. There's a ton about our relationship to media and including my own relationship to media and how that got us into trouble.Some of the stuff we're talking about today, how, technology has impacted our lives stuff. I've been sort of thinking about it, writing about for the last few decades, and a lot of the political hate that emerged. and, but it's all within this time capsule of the craziest year.[00:41:12] Nathan:Yeah. Yeah. And so that's coming out early in November, November 2nd. so you're, it looks like you're just starting the, you know, mentioning the promotion tour and all of that. is there a big, big push that comes with it or are you kind of, I, I'm always curious with people's book launches, what strategy they take.[00:41:30] Dave:Yeah. I mean, I'm a newbie, so it's, the whole process has been interesting to me working with a publisher, working with others, is not my forte. so I got used to that or I'm getting used to that and they're probably getting used to it also because working with grouchy 50 something in these is probably not ideal, but, yeah, I've just been promoting it so far in Next Draft, but I've been doing, I have a PR company that's helping me and I've been doing a ton of podcasts and I'm marketing it to my own readers.And then as it gets a little bit closer to the November 2nd date, I have a lot more stuff planned rut, a lot of influencers have early copies of the book, and hopefully they'll promote it. And, I'll call out a few favors from bloggers and hopefully newsletter writers. I feel like that should be my in theory.That should be my secret weapon because, in addition to being fun and creative, nothing moves traffic, except maybe Facebook, nothing moves traffic more than newsletters. I know a lot of people who run e-commerce companies and newsletters are always second, if not first, in terms of traffic drivers.So, I really think that, if some of my friends out there at morning brew in the hustle and the scam and all these other sites that sort of, have surpassed my size by quite a bit, put the word out that, one of their fellow warriors is, has a book out. That'll probably move the needle even more. The media, I'm hoping to get stuff like that, but I really don't know. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much because, unlike a newsletter, it's not just one day's work, you know, you like worry about one word or one sentence in a book for like three weeks and then you put it out there and people are like, oh yeah, I'll check it out sometime.Thanks. So, you know, that's, you know, whatever that's life as a, you put yourself out there, that's how it goes. So I'm hoping it sells well. And, the more people that get it, I think some people, their first reaction is, oh my God, 2020. I don't want to relive that again. But, hopefully people who know my brand and those that they share it with, know that it's, you know, there's a lot of humor and there's, it's probably 30 pages before we even get into the first event of 2020.So it's, there's a lot more to it and it's sort of fun and crazy and tries to have the pace of a roller coaster. that was the other thing I took from the Fujiyama roller coaster.[00:43:59] Nathan:Yeah. So one thing that I'm always curious about with people who have like a prolific newsletter, you know, in your case of writing every day, and then like, for a lot of people, that would be a lot to handle of staying on top of a daily newsletter. And then you're writing a book on top of that. How did you schedule your time?Were you blocking off like, oh, these afternoons are specifically for book, book writing. Cause you turned it around relatively fast.[00:44:24] Dave:Yeah. the newsletter is sort of like a full-time job. People always ask me, you know, when do you work on, or how many hours do you spend on it? I mean, I'm, I'm always looking for news, whether it's on Twitter or friends, emailing me stuff or texting me stories, or just in conversations with people to see what they're into or what stories are interesting them or what I'm missing.In terms of actual time spent like where I'm dedicating time. I probably do like about an hour every night, because the story has changed so quick. So I'll do an hour of looking for stories every night. And then the next day I sort of lock in from about nine to one, usually, or nine to 12, where I'm finding stories, saving those stories, choosing what stories I want to go with and then actually writing the newsletter.All of that takes about anywhere from like two and a half to four hours, depending on the day I go pretty fast. When it came to the book, that was tricky. It was actually more emotionally tricky because like I said before, I was like, had to go back and write about, you know, Briana Taylor while I'm living another horrible act, you know, or even more so the Trump, you know, one crazy Trump thing and another crazy Trump thing and seeing the pandemic getting worse and worse.So that was stressful. But I found at the beginning I would try to write a lot at night and that was okay. But I found actually if I just kept going, in the day when I was already rolling and had written the newsletter and I was already in the group just to add on an hour or two to that was actually easier and more effective for me than trying to get going.But that's just me. I mean, I just go by my it's almost like my circadian rhythm or something like that, I almost never eat or consume anything before I'm done with next job except for coffee. I would keep that going, you know, once I would like, sort of have a sandwich or whatever, then it's like, oh, let me just take a quick nap and then whatever.So, yeah, I tried to just keep it going. I always find the more consistently busy I am, the less I procrastinate. And if I take a day off or I take a few hours off, even then, between writing, it just, it takes me longer to get going.[00:46:37] Nathan:Yep. That makes sense. The habit that I'm in right now is starting the day with 45 minutes to an hour of writing and that's working much better for me than like slotting it in somewhere else. So I think like w what I hear you saying is like, experiment and find the thing that works well for you.[00:46:54] Dave:Yeah. I mean, if you're going to start experimenting almost every writer, I know not like newsletter writers, but just general writers, all do what you just described. They sort of pick a time in the morning and they get their output done. then the rest of the day, if ideas come to them or whatever, they jot it down, but they're sort of powering in that morning hours.[00:47:13] Nathan:Yeah.[00:47:14] Dave:That's probably a good one to try. Although, you know, some people just do it better at different hours. I'm sure.[00:47:19] Nathan:Yeah. another thing I realized, I've always you for years, and until we got on this video call, I had no idea what you looked like. and which is kind of an interesting,[00:47:28] Dave:Well, I'm sorry.It's by design. I have a face for Panda.[00:47:32] Nathan:Tell me more about, well, I guess two sides, one, has there ever been an interesting interaction? You know, because you're like, Hey, I'm, I'm Dave and people are like, I wouldn't have ever recognized you. Or has there been any other benefits and thought behind, you know, why it have an avatar?[00:47:49] Dave:If by interesting you mean horrible? Yes. There's been many interesting interactions with people. I mean, before, before I had my current, avatar, which is, pretty awesome, actually, a guy named Brian Molko designed it. I had this incredible drawing of a character that looked like me that, had sort of ether net, Machinery and cord going into his head and it was like me, but my head was actually lifted.The top of my head was lifted off and you could see all this machinery and it was an incredible graphic, by this guy named Sam Spratt. Who's now done, album covers and book covers. He's like a super talent. If you want to follow somebody fun on Instagram, he's just incredible. And it was a drawing, even though it looked photo realistic.And I used that for a while and then I would go places and people would be like, you are so much fatter and grayer than I imagined. And so instead of having Sam sort of ruin his artwork, I went back with the more, cartoonish or animated, avatar. So since then I don't get too much of that, but, that was a good move.Although that's the best thing about avatars and the internet is that your avatar never ages. It always looks the same. It stays the same weight. My avatar never overeats he exercises right here. Angie really gets along well with others and doesn't have any kind of social anxiety either. So he's pretty cool.Yeah, it goes a little downhill with me in person. So[00:49:21] Nathan:Yeah. So is it, that's something that like, it gives you some distance between you and readers, or it gives you some anonymity that, you know, you don't want to be recognized in the streets?[00:49:32] Dave:No, no, it's, it's, basically just what I described. It's like, I literally prefer the, the attractiveness of my avatar versus me, but also actually my avatar is really awesome. my logo, so it's also iconic and scalable. so it looks awesome on t-shirts even people who don't know what Next Draft is when they see, by son wearing his t-shirt, whatever, it just looks awesome.So that that's that's as much of it as anything. I thought your response was going to be mad. You seem perfectly attractive to me. I don't know what the issue is, but no, you went with, am I doing that for some other reason? Yeah. So, I get this all the time.Cause my wife is a very attractive person also. So when people meet me, they're always like, whoa, we were once a very famous celebrity came up to me and I said, oh, I'm Gina's husband. And she was like, wow, you did well. Oh, you know? So I'm like, thanks a lot. That helps. So just gave her a picture of my, my icon and walked away.[00:50:31] Nathan:Then that worked. I'm sure that she has it framed in her office, from now on. it's just interesting to me. You're you're sort of at this intersection between personal brand and, like media brand. And I think the avatar helps push you over into the media brand side. and I don't have any real commentary on it other than I find it interesting.[00:50:53] Dave:Yeah, no, I think there probably is some of that. I I've never really been a fan of using my actual face, or my actual person as a logo. I love the process of designing or working with people to design logos and taglines and all that. But yeah, probably at some point there was a, a goal with Next Draft to make it seem bigger than it is.I know a lot of people that are solo operators. They regularly say we, when they're talking about their brand to make it seem bigger, I actually think that's sort of been flipped on its head though. in the last few years where so many people are coming into the space, it's very clear that what they're doing is leaving a big brand, leaving a we and going to an eye.And I think it's actually a selling point in a lot of ways. So, I mean, I, I still get a lot of emails that say, I don't know if anybody at Next Draft is going to read this email, you know, or if you do, can you get this message to Dave? He's an asshole or whatever. And it's like, I'm the only one here, you know, or the other one I always get is when I email back to people that go, oh, I can't believe you actually emailed back.I didn't think this would get to anybody. It's like, you hit reply. And it had my email, like where else would it go? Exactly. You know? But I think actually having people thinking of you as a person, instead of a brand, Is a benefit today. Whereas if you would ask me when I was younger, I probably would have said, make it seem like you have a big company behind you.[00:52:24] Nathan:Yeah. And I think that that indie shift overall, like people are looking for that.[00:52:29] Dave:Yeah,[00:52:29] Nathan:Want to ask about the intersection between your investing and the newsletter. like, are you still actively investing today and doing author.[00:52:38] Dave:Yeah, yeah, no, I, I still invest a ton. I usually follow along with people who are a little more in tune with today's companies than I am. I don't really go out there and brand myself as an investor much, but I've been really lucky. I have very little intersection actually, if any, with my newsletter and my investing and I definitely want people to. To think of me as a writer first, for sure. Not as an investor who has this hobby, because that's definitely not in terms of time or passion, the reality. but I've been really lucky over the years that, I've invested with people or co-invested with them that were cool with me. branding myself as a writer first, but still looking at deals that came through their brands because they were branded as BCS or investors or angels.That's probably a bigger deal now than when I first started. There were like five angel investors, basically. Nobody really did small, early stage seed deals. you know, I mean, we all knew each other that did it and now there's like thousands of them. So you really have to be either a really pretty well-known entrepreneur or you have to. Sort of attach yourself to our organization or two who are really branding themselves well, getting out there and building a stable of companies,[00:53:58] Nathan:Yeah.[00:53:59] Dave:It's pretty different, more, much more has changed about that than the newsletter game, actually, which is pretty much the same as it was the day I started actually.[00:54:07] Nathan:Are there a few of those I'm curious who are a few of those, people that you would tag along with, you know, when they're investing where like, oh, this person puts money into something I'd like to be right there with them.[00:54:19] Dave:I mean, I have some people that are like entrepreneurs and former entrepreneurs that do it, and if they like it I'll do it. but generally I co-invest with, at any given time, a different group of people, used to be a larger group. When I first started out, my whole investing career, I've co-invested with this guy named Bob zip who's much smarter and much wiser than I am about all things business and.Startup world. So that was really great. And he used to work at a company called venture law group in the first boom, and they represented Google, Hotmail. eGroups all the big, huge, early internet companies, and so he really knew the space well. And when he became, I used to get deals from him.That's how you used to get deals actually was by a couple of law firms that focused on startups. I've been co-investing with him all along and he's been generous enough to, he left the law firm a long, long time ago and became an investor primarily. And he had a fund and was well-known guy and well-respected guy.So I got to sit in when he would hear pitches. and we sort of, we weren't investing together out of the same fund, but we would sort of make our decisions together. And we still do that a lot. these days, I almost always follow along with a guy named run-on barn Cohen and a really good friend of mine.He was for many years at WordPress, basically, most of the things that make money at WordPress, he did. and now he's a investor at a VC called resolute. If anybody's looking for a good VC, he's like incredible, like Bob zip much, much smarter than I am about this stuff. Unbelievably ethical, great business sense.Great technical sense. so I mostly just follow him. So if he does something that's usually good enough for me. And if I see something that I think it's good, I'll pass it along to him, but it's mostly that, but I've been really fortunate. I can't express that enough, that I've been able to invest in companies without having to spend all of my time, branding myself as an investor.That's just been unbelievably lucky. So, I've been able to focus a ton of my energy on my six.[00:56:31] Nathan:That's right. I'm writing a newsletter about the news. I guess, as you're looking to grow and continue on, right? Like the next phase of readers and, and all of that, since we can just say directly that we're all narcissists and we do this for the attention. what's what's sort of that next thing that you're looking for, it's going from 140,000 subscribers to say 200,000 and beyond.[00:56:54] Dave:Yeah, well, I'm, I'm hoping that, I'm not just trying to sell my book here. I'm hoping that the book and the newsletter will sort of have, a coexistence with them because the new the book is really an extension of the brand and the brand is that icon to Next Draft. So I'm hoping that the tricky part about writing about marketing a newsletter, like we discussed earlier, there's not really a natural virality to them.So. You Have this piecemeal growth from people telling each other or their friends or forwarding it to somebody or maybe occasionally tweeting or sharing a Facebook link. Oh, you should check this out. But it's all sort of small little blips. If you get a news story or a big blog story about it, or another newsletter recommending you, that's probably the fastest way people grow these days is by, co-sponsoring each other's newsletters or co-promoting them.Those big hits are more rare and they usually require like, I've had a ton of stories written about Next Draft, but most of them a long time ago, because it's basically a similar product to what it was when they wrote about it the first time. So they're like, Hey, I'd love to write about it, but what's the hook.What's the new thing, you know? so I'm hoping that the book provides that emphasis. It's like, we're doing now a ton of people who may by either been on a podcast in the past, or they've wanted to do a podcast with me say, okay, now's a great time. I'd probably want to move your book and, we can set something up.So it's sort of as an impetus. So I'm hoping that that will be the next big newsletter thing that most, most people who write about the book will also write about the newsletter and the two things can sort of grow together.[00:58:35] Nathan:I think that's spot on.[00:58:36] Dave:That's in terms of, you know, marketing and promotion, otherwise, I do want to try, one of these referral programs because people definitely do like products.And, I am lucky that my icon looks really good on shirts so that people actually really want them. And I have a great designer named Brian Bell who makes all of my shirts.[00:58:58] Nathan:There's something like when creators thinking about products, often if you spread yourself too thin, you're like into the newsletter, the book, the podcast, and like the 14 other things that you could make all at once you sort of hinder the growth of each thing, but then if you really build one of them up to a significant level, then at that point it can start to stall out and by shifting to another medium or have it like launching another product in this case, the newsletter to a book, then that book can have a bunch more momentum that feeds back into it.And so there's just sort of this interesting balance of like, no, When to like, keep pushing on the thing that you have versus when to add the next thing that like, then they feed off of each other and go from there. So I think you're doing it with good timing.[00:59:45] Dave:Hopefully it'll work. All that kind of stuff is the tricky part of doing this stuff. Especially stuff like podcasts and newsletters that are—it's really a ton of word of mouth, unless you get lucky and get some press, and word of mouth is just slow.There's some point where you're going to hit a tipping point where you're going to go from five or 10,000 to like 50,000 much quicker, more quickly because instead of three people going home and saying, “Hey, did you ever hear of this newsletter?” there's like 30 people going home and saying that. But, even with that they hit a plateau, and then you figure out what's the next thing. That's why doing something you're into is so important.And I don't think it's bad to try those other mediums or stretch yourself out, because you never know you might've been writing a newsletter three years, and then you do a podcast and it catches on. For some reason, you're like awesome. Less typing, more talking, let's go. So, but it's tricky. I wish I was better and had better advice for people on promotion and marketing.I'm not awesome at it, and it's not in my nature. So, begging for favors or telling people, even in my own newsletter, to buy my own book is very painful for me. I'm very sensitive to criticism about it. So, if people just all bought it and then made everybody else buy it, that would be a huge relief for me.[01:01:13] Nathan:That would be great. Well, along those lines, where should people go to subscribe to the newsletter, and then follow you on your preferred channel, and then ultimately buy the book?[01:01:24] Dave:I don't want like two or 300,000 people taking my site down. So let's go with if your last name starts between A and M you can start by going to NextDraft.com and sign up for the newsletter there. Or, you can also just go to the App Store and search for Next Draft. If you're N through Z, you can start with the book, and that's at: PleaseScream.com.It has links to all the various audio, and Kindle, and hardcover versions.[01:01:50] Nathan:That's good. I liked how you split the traffic, that way there's no hug of death, and we'll do well there.[01:01:57] Dave:I don't want to get fireballed.[01:01:58] Nathan:That's right.Dave. Thanks for coming on. This was really fun.[01:02:01] Dave:Yeah, thanks a lot for having me.

Full transcript: FollowFridayPodcast.com/dave-pell Our new YouTube channel: followfriday.co/youtube Dave Pell calls himself the "managing editor of the internet," and for good reason: Every weekday, he combs through 75 different news sources and plucks out the 10 most important stories for his popular email newsletter https://nextdraft.com/ (NextDraft). But it can be hard for anyone — even a voracious news reader — to put the news of the past couple years in context, which is why Pell is about to release a book about the 2020-2021 news cycle called https://nextdraft.com/scream/ (Please Scream Inside Your Heart). "As I had my friends or proofreaders go over my book, that was the number one response, like, 'Oh my God, I can't believe that happened in 2020. I thought that was another year. I don't remember that happening.'" he says. On today's podcast, Dave talks about four of his favorite accounts to follow: A https://www.theatlantic.com/ (164-year-old magazine) that covered Trump and COVID better than anyone; a https://twitter.com/BillyCorben (self-proclaimed "Florida Man") who documents the state's weird news and corrupt government; an https://www.instagram.com/chefjoseandres/ (inspiring celebrity chef) who has fed millions of people after natural disasters; and an https://daringfireball.net/ (old-school tech blogger) who's never afraid to "shoot from the hip." You can get bonus episodes of Follow Friday every week — including an extra follow recommendation from Dave, coming early next week — when you https://www.patreon.com/followfriday (back Follow Friday on Patreon), starting at just $1 a month. Follow us: - Dave is https://twitter.com/davepell/ (on Twitter @davepell) - This show is on https://twitter.com/followfridaypod (Twitter) and https://www.instagram.com/followfridaypod/ (Instagram) @followfridaypod and we have a https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVlDOyFjj9ulmiIrsBJlMqg (brand-new YouTube channel here) - Eric is https://twitter.com/HeyHeyESJ (on Twitter @heyheyesj) Theme song written by Eric Johnson, and performed by https://www.fiverr.com/yonamarie (Yona Marie). Show art by https://www.fiverr.com/dodiihr (Dodi Hermawan). Thank you to our amazing patrons: Jon, Justin, Amy, Yoichi, and Elizabeth This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Support this podcast

The Stuph File Program Featuring Dave Pell, author of Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End; Ivan Obolensky, author of Shadow of the Son; & Stuart Nulman with Book Banter Download Dave Pell, the guy behind the excellent newsletter, NextDraft, is the author of the book Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End, which looks back at the year 2020. Ivan Obolensky is the author of the gothic novel, Shadow of the Son.  It's the sequel to his first novel Eye of the Moon. We remember a dear friend, a former colleague and an early contributor to The Stuph File Program. Journalist Steve Walsh, who on this show was Our Man In The Heart Of America Checking The Pulse Of The Nation, has become a victim of Covid-19, succumbing to the virus. I share some moments of Steve and my thoughts about the dangers of the unvaccinated that can lead to senseless deaths.(You can also hear, via Audea, two of the many previous segments that Steve did on this program, including the last segment he did back in May 2010. If you want to hear any more of them all you have to do is place Steve's full name in search up above). Stuart Nulman with another edition of Book Banter.  This week's reviewed title is Falling by T. J. Newman (Avis Reader Press, $37). You can also read Stuart's reviews in The Montreal Times.   Now you can listen to selected items from The Stuph File Program on the new audio service, Audea. A great way to keep up with many of the interviews from the show and take a trip down memory lane to when this show began back in 2009, with over 580 selections to choose from! This week's guest slate is presented by Carmi Levy, the Content Marketing Program Director for SHI International.

"Connecticut Today" with Paul Pacelli cleared its browser history before coming on today! First, Paul spoke with Dave Pell, the author of, "Please Scream Inside Your Heart: Breaking News and Nervous Breakdowns in the Year that Wouldn't End,” which looks at 2020 (and 2021) and wonders if we're driving ourselves crazy with how closely we monitor the internet for "news" (0:50). Next, we carried President Joe Biden's address regarding the exit of U.S. military forces and staff from Afghanistan (10:30). Finally, Paul had a conversation with Ted Taylor, the President of Sportech, on his company's upcoming role in Connecticut's legal sports gambling (28:53).   Image Credit: Getty Images

Amy Tom talks to Yoz Grahame, a Solutions Architect at LaunchDarkly about feature flags.

This week we introduce you to the debut album from a 24 year-old lad from Wales.  Thomas John Woodward - today Sir Thomas John Woodward - is better known as Tom Jones. He got his start as the front man for a beat group called Tommy Scott and the Senators, but they really didn't go anywhere beyond South Wales.  Gordo Mills became his manager, took him to London, and renamed him Tom Jones after the Academy Award winning film of the same name released in 1963.Jones' first hit would be the one for which he is always remembered.  "It's Not Unusual" went to number 1 in the UK within a month of its release, and it went to number 10 on the Billboard Hot 100 when released in America.  Mills and Les Reed worked quickely with Jones to get an album out to take advantage of the quick success, and the result is this album - Along Came Jones.  Jones would have only moderate success with the rest of the songs on the album, but would see more fame when he recorded songs from movies, including "What's New Pussycat," by Burt Bacharach, and the theme song to the James Bond film "Thunderball."Tom Jones is synonymous with Las Vegas, and he spend a good bit of time there almost from the beginning.  His first stint was at the Flamingo in 1967.  He made a lot of money in club performances in Vegas rather than in extensive recording.  After moderate success with his first few albums, Mills directed Jones more in the direction of the crooner we know today.We hope you enjoy this early foray into this iconic singer. I've Got A HeartThis is the opening track on the album, and a very positive song.  The boy is singing about having "a heart that really needs somebody, " and "a mind to keep her, to hold her tight, oh yeah, yeah, yeah."  Not the most sophisticated lyrics you will encounter, but it is early in the rock era after all..Whatcha Gonna DoThe album was a mix of cover songs and songs written for Jones, and this is one of the covers.  Originally written by American blues and rock singer Chuck Willis, it cautions against running around on your girl. The RoseGordon Mills wrote this song for Jones.  It is basically the knights errand to win his love by finding the rose of love.  "For my true love I yearn, but I'll never, ever return till I find where that red lady grows."It's Not UnusualThis is where it all started for Tom Jones.  Gordon Mills and Les Reed wrote this song which was released in February 1965, and it entered the charts the week it was released.  It was number 1 on the UK charts a month later, and would define Tom Jones' career. ENTERTAINMENT TRACK:What's New Pussycat?  by Burt Bacharach (from the motion picture What's New Pussycat?)Woody Allen's first screenplay would become this comedy film.  Peter Sellers and Peter O'Toole starred in this movie.  Tom Jones would achieve success from singing this song for the soundtrack as well. STAFF PICKS:I'll Keep Holding On by The MarvelettesRob starts off our staff picks with this female Motown act.  They were the first successful Motown act after The Miracles.  This song was written by Mickey Stevenson and Ivy Jo Hunter, and peaked at number 34 on the Billboard Hot 100.  The original members were  Gladys Horton,  Katherine Anderson, Georgeanna Tillman, Juanita Cowart Motley, and  Wanda Young.  Young is on lead for this one.Help Me Rhonda by The Beach BoysBrian brings us a well known surfing standard and rebound song.  This song has guitarist Al Jardine on lead vocals, and Glen Campbell was playing lead guitar as a session musician.  Darryl Dragon (aka The Captain from Captain & Tennille ) is also playing on this track.  Take a Heart by The SorrowsWayne's staff pick is the title track off the debut album from “Freakbeat” band The Sorrows.  One of the most aggressive R&B bands of their time, The Sorrows were known for their fast guitar solos and thudding drums.  They never achieved much success, perhaps because their style of music was just ahead of its time.  The song itself cautions against breaking hearts and turnabout.Feeling Good by Nina SimoneBruce's staff pick is a song from Broadway recorded by Nina Simone in 1965.  It was not released as a single at the time, but has seen a resurgence recently in period pieces and commercials. INSTRUMENTAL TRACK:No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In) by the T-BonesThis instrumental drew its inspiration from an Alka-Seltzer commercial and was recorded by Dave Pell and members of The Wrecking Crew.

Mark Spede is the band director at Clemson University and the current president of the College Band Directors National Association. In this episode he shares his story and talks about CBDNA’s role in funding the aerosol study at the University of Colorado. Topics: Mark’s background and musical origin story. His journey from marching band novice to the director of the Clemson University band. Mark’s path to becoming president of CBDNA and the work that the organization has done with the COVID-19 pandemic. The backstory behind the aerosol study conducted during the summer of 2020.  Links: Mark Spede Clemson Tiger Band Maslanka: Symphony no. 4 Biography: Dr. Mark J. Spede is Professor, Director of Bands, Director of Tiger Band, and Conductor of the Symphonic Band at Clemson University, where he administrates the band program (symphonic, athletic, and jazz bands). Dr. Spede is the recipient of the Clemson University 2009 Dean’s Award for Excellence in Teaching (College of Architecture, Arts and Humanities), and three Clemson University Board of Trustees Awards for Faculty Excellence (2008, 2009, and 2012). He teaches a number of courses, including two for the Calhoun Honors College: aesthetics of music and science of music. In 2012, Dr. Spede conducted the Clemson University Symphonic Band at venues in London, England, for the Summer Olympic Games. Also in 2012, he founded the Clemson Faculty Jazz Quintet, for which he plays drums. Dr. Spede earned a Bachelor of Music from the University of Michigan (1984), a Master of Music from Ball State University (1988), and a Doctor of Musical Arts from The University of Texas at Austin (1998). He has served the College Band Directors National Association (CBDNA) in a number of capacities. From 2003 to 2005, Dr. Spede served as state chair for South Carolina. He also served on the CBDNA “New Era Think Tank” from 2005 to 2007, and served as chair of the “Athletic Band Task Force” from 2005 to 2009. He served as President of the Southern Division of CBDNA (encompassing eleven southern states) and is currently serving as National President. In addition, he has served as president of the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) Band Directors Association. Dr. Spede previously served on the faculties at The University of Texas at Austin (1998-1999) and the University of Florida in Gainesville (1989-1995) as Assistant Director of Bands. At Florida, he also taught studio percussion. As a freelance arranger, Dr. Spede has written extensively for high school and college marching bands (over 200 arrangements). His wind band arrangements and transcriptions are published by Peer Music, Schirmer, Boosey and Hawkes, and Carl Fischer, including “D.C. Fanfare” by John Corigliano, “Red Cape Tango” by Michael Daugherty, “Wedding Dances from Bandanna” by Daron Hagen, “Acrostic Song” by David Del Tredici, and “Millennium Canons” by Kevin Puts. He served as Assistant Conductor of the Dallas Wind Symphony, where he also helped produce two of their recordings. His professional performing experience includes orchestra (principal percussion in the Gainesville Chamber Orchestra, Muncie Symphony Orchestra, Ann Arbor Symphony Orchestra, Flint Symphony Orchestra), jazz (performing with such artists as Randy Brecker, Ray Brown, Pete Christlieb, Dennis DiBlasio, Duffy Jackson, Dave Pell, Bobby Shew, Marvin Stamm, Bill Watrous, Ernie Watts and Phil Wilson), as well as at Walt Disney World.

One hour of non-stop swing music. Danny Lane brings back memories of times at The Cotton Club. Swing music is back, in a big way. Dance like no one is watching. Keep swingin’. In this episode you’ll hear: 1) Sing Me A Swing Song by Chick Webb & Ella Fitzgerald 2) You Never Know How You Look by Les Brown & His Orchestra 3) At The Fat Man's by Tommy Dorsey & His Orchestra (Charlie Shavers, vocal) 4) Topsy by Count Basie & His Orchestra 5) The Joint is Really Jumpin' Down At Carnegie Hall by The Vaughn Monroe Orchestra 6) Pompton Turnpike by Charlie Barnet & His Orchestra 7) Jukebox Saturday Night by Glenn Miller (w/ Marion Hutton, Tex Beneke & The Modernaires, vocals) 8) Tuxedo Junction by Dave Pell & His Orchestra 9) Palm Springs Jump by Slim & Slam (Slam Stewart & Slim Gaillard & His Flat Foot Floogie Boys) 10) Blue Lou by The Metronome All-Star Band 11) You Couldn't Be Cuter by Benny Goodman & His Big Band (Martha Tilton, vocal) 12) Northwest Passage by Woody Herman 13) A Fine Romance by Lena Horne 14) What Is This Thing Called Love? By Artie Shaw & His Orchestra (Mel Torme & His Mel-Tones, vocals) 15) The Peanut Vendor by Stan Kenton & His Orchestra 16) Rockin' in Rhythm by Duke Ellington & His Orchestra and Ella Fitzgerald 17) Sing, Sing, Sing by Buddy Rich Quintet & Max Roach Quintet 18) You Make Me Feel So Young by Nancy Wright 19) Flying Home by Lionel Hampton & His Orchestra

What the heck is Lounge Music?  Steve attempts to explain it as well as the Japanese music genre Shibuya-kei and 90s alternative's short-lived fascination with it. Steve plays songs from these artists: Pizzicato Five, Sterolab, Flipper's Guitar, The Mike Flowers Pops, Komeda, Combustible Edison, Arling & Cameron, Fantastic Plastic Machine, Cibo Matto, Nouvelle Vague, Esquivel, Dave Pell, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66, Ted Heath & His Music, Richard Cheese & Lounge Against The Machine. Twitter: @SUBedford1051Facebook: SuburbanUndergroundRadioInstagram: SuburbanUnderground And available on demand on your favorite podcast app!  

Dave Pell is the Founder of NextDraft - one of the most popular newsletters on the Internet. He also has an opinion or two on tech, politics, and the current state of our country. We deep-dive with Dave on numerous subjects, including BLM, the state of media, and what we can be optimistic about at the moment. We recorded this interview shortly after the murder of George Floyd and the ensuing protests. Dave talks about the protests that took place in Marin County (where he lives) and what his take was on how effective they were. We ask Dave about Marin in general, and the perception that it is not a 'safe place' for minorities. Dave provides his take on the destruction of media and our lack of faith in it as an institution. And how Trump played a role, but was one part of the destruction of media. We ask Dave about NextDraft - his popular newsletter - and some of the hate mail he's received over the years. We learn a bit about Dave's ancestors and their perception of Trump. We have an extensive conversation with Dave about the future and the election, and how things could potentially play out. This is a 'heavy', but pithy episode of This is Your Life in Silicon Valley, which we hope you enjoy. Dave is one of the smartest and strongest voices on the Internet. 

Plus, some gentle ranting on the George Floyd murder/protest and how the cannabis industry can meaningfully respond.Preamble: The firestorm of the last two weeks has been smoldering for decades. I haven’t watched and cannot stomach the 9-minute George Floyd snuff film, but the shock of the it has finally awakened the country. I, like many millions, hope that the protests can amend the broken policing and justice systems and finally rid the country of the corruption and malfeasance occupying the White House and Senate.Show notes: I recorded this podcast with Alex Halperin, founder and editor-in-chief of WeedWeek a month before the country erupted. The main part of this interview centers around WeedWeek’s Guide to the California Cannabis Industry, which is available at no fee. No one thought legalizating a state of 40 million people and where the current market is estimated at $3-5 Billion was going to be easy, but no one imagined it would become a bloodbath. California taxes weed at 40% and regulates the industry “more strictly than radioactive waste,” as industry veteran Steve DeAngelo put it. Both factors have kept the illegal market thriving. But there is still much hope that The Golden State can solve some it’s problems. And remember as California goes, so goes the country, so it’s worth watching, especially as some 10 additional states prepare to vote for adult use or medical in the November election (not all ballot initiatives have yet gathered the requisite number of signatures). Gentle rant: Honing in on one topic that Halperin and I touched on briefly: the disregard that many of the more “successful” state legalization programs have for social equity or restitution programs. So many citizens and communities have been disproportionately affected by the Drug Wars and the prison industrial complex but not enough industry leaders have taken up the call for restitution. We have devoted a few (not enough) podcasts to these issues but it is clear that they should be addressed forcefully right now.This is a golden opportunity to create a more fair and just cannabis industry. I don’t think profit should be the sole definition of “success.” Every cannabis company should think about instituting training, development and education programs that help to make amends for the injustices of the past (and present) and build a more inclusive future. Yes, it’s difficult to create such programs. They take time and money and there are no guarantees, but that doesn’t mean the effort should be glossed over. As William Faulkner noted: “The past is not dead. It’s not even past.” This is especially true with the racism that continues to underlie cannabis prohibition and keep people out of the industry. Random Final Notes: It goes without saying but I’m going to say it anyway: Make sure you’re registered to vote. Even if you feel that voting is an inadequate response to the primacy of the moment, read Stacey Abrams’ essay on the importance of this seemingly inconsequential act. Hear her out and then just do it. Al Sharpton’s eulogy at the George Floyd memorial was extraordinary. It was as if he waited his entire life to deliver this searing indictment of the power structure that took Mr. Floyd’s life. His oratory ensures that the phrase “Get your knee off our necks” will become the battle cry for this moment in time. If you have some pennies laying around think about tossing a few to NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. This org has been fighting the racial justice for 50 years and has never wavered from this position.This insightful essay by Eric Altieri, NORML’s Executive Director, spells out the struggle without glossing over the difficulties ahead. For a wise inquiry on the ways we white Americans can respond to the open wound of racism, listen to Tara Brach’s talk, A Courageous Presence With Racism. It’s honest and at times tough and this white man couldn’t stop thinking about it. And remember, every protest counts, even if you’re the only one. (Thank you, Dave Pell)

We’re told from a young age to “accept the things we cannot change.” But should this be the case online as well? We click “Accept” every day, but often don’t know what we’re giving away. Is it a fair trade, and should we demand a better bargain? Veronica Belmont and special guest Dave Pell explore if what we get for what we give online is a good deal. We hear how one man’s HIV status was exposed without permission, how a massive data-mining company is using our information to predict how we'll behave, and why on earth our email inboxes are filling up with privacy policies. IRL is an original podcast from Mozilla. For more on the series go to irlpodcast.org Tom Hayes works for an organization called Beyond Positive. Learn more. Nora Young discusses the GDPR in this episode. Here are 13 more things you need to know about the GDPR. Beyond GDPR, check out what else is changing your online rights. The rest of Jaron Lanier's talk can be heard on TED Talks Daily. Find Dave Pell's NextDraft newsletter here. And, click here for Mozilla's take on privacy and the trade-offs we make online. Leave a rating or review in Apple Podcasts so we know what you think.

Shownotes: http://fizzleshow.co/272 (http://fizzleshow.co/272) Do you struggle with self-doubt and depression? How do you relate to the news of Anthony Bourdain's death? How does your work and ambition influence your mental state? As entrepreneurs we are constantly struggling within ourselves - it is part of the calling. With what feels like more and more frequent news of high-profile suicides or overdoses, the topic of depression is becoming a bigger part of the conversation everyday. The conversation is an indispensable one. In this episode, we tackle this sensitive but necessary discussion from the viewpoint of business owners, but really look at in a way that is relatable for almost anyone. The team discusses their own struggles and experiences of depression and then go on to unpack some of the ways they each manage these challenges. We also talk about belonging and acceptance, exercise and diet and affirmation, all simple ways to give yourself a foot up. This is one of the least business-centered episodes of the show, but we promise it is not one to miss! Key Points From This Episode: * The constant and rising amount of high profile suicides. [0:04:32.2] * The unfulfilling nature of success and having it all. [0:08:17.7] * Why money and freedom do not equal happiness. [0:13:12.1] * Chase's own strategies for managing depression. [0:15:25.8] * Belonging, acceptance and practice as a way to combat the demons.  [0:20:32.4] * Tweaking, trimming and tending your bonsai tree. [0:25:11.2] * The different levels of depression and seeking serious help. [0:29:16.1] * Taking responsibility for your day to day mental health. [0:32:28.8] * The value of exercise and diet as personal tools. [0:36:10.5] * Practicing affirmations as a way to release the pressure. [0:37:20.5] * Increased public dialogue and proactive approaches to depression. [0:44:40.4] * Putting down the things that make you feel trapped. [0:51:15.3] * Accepting our blessings and doing the hard work. [0:53:50.2] * And much more! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: * Gusto — https://gusto.com/fizzle * HoneyBook — https://www.honeybook.com/fizzle * Fizzle — https://fizzle.co/ * Fizzle Toolkit — https://fizzle.co/toolkit * Fizzle Goals Course — https://fizzle.co/courses/goals * Fizzle 80/20 Copywriting Guide — https://fizzle.co/sparkline/writing-copy-for-web * Fizzle Journaling Course — https://fizzle.co/courses/journal * Fizzle Roadmap — https://fizzle.co/sparkline/small-business-roadmap-1-clarity * Fizzle Craft + Commerce — https://fizzle.co/sparkline/craft-commerce * ConvertKit — https://fizzle.co/convertkit * Courage and Clarity Podcast — https://www.courageandclarity.com/ * Anthony Bourdain — http://www.anthonybourdain.net/ * Kate Spade — https://www.katespade.com/ * Gary Vaynerchuk — https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com/ * Casey Neistat — https://www.caseyneistat.com/ * Ellen Degeneres — https://www.ellentube.com/ * Eddie Murphy — http://www.kennedy-center.org/artist/A227047 * Joe Rogan — https://www.joerogan.com/ * Robin Williams — https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/05/robin-williams-death-biography-dave-itzkoff-excerpt * Dave Pell — https://nextdraft.com/ * Jim Carrey Interview — http://the-talks.com/interview/jim-carrey/ * Brené Brown — https://brenebrown.com/ * Braving the Wilderness — https://www.amazon.com/Braving-Wilderness-Quest-Belonging-Courage/dp/0812995848 * Karate Kid Part ll. — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091326/ * Suicide Prevention Lifeline Website — https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ * Suicide Prevention Lifeline Number — 1-800-273-8255 * Heal Your Body — https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/270435.HealYourBody * Louise Hay — https://www.louisehay.com/

Intro: Hi! This is Glenn McQueenie, and welcome to 20 Minutes of Insider Secrets of Successful Niches. This is where you learn the insider secrets to dominate your target market. You'll learn to work with high-margin, super-happy clients, and build a tribe of loyal, raving fans for your business. So excited to have you join me today, so sit back and enjoy 20 Minutes of Insider Secrets of Successful Niches. Glenn: Well hello, and welcome to our Success Series. I'm just so thrilled today to have Chuck Charlton from The Charlton Advantage Real Estate Team. How are you doing, Chuck? Chuck: I'm great, Glenn. How are you? Glenn: Oh, so great. And thank you. Honestly, I know you run a very big, high-producing team. You're a busy guy, but I just really want to thank you and acknowledge you for taking some time to share some of your insights with our audience today on how you built your niche market and have now expanded it to such an amazing real estate team. So before we get into that, I just want to give people some background. So The Charlton Advantage Real Estate Team is really run by Chuck and Melissa Charlton. They moved to Milton in 2004, didn't know anybody, basically took all of their life savings, their $40,000, and started just building a real estate team, and became such an immediate success that they had paid off that loan by the end of the first year. And since then, Chuck and Melissa have become really nationally recognized as teachers and leaders in the industry. They've been guest speakers in Las Vegas, San Diego, Orlando, Toronto for various real estate conferences. What I love about them is they're just so kind and giving, and they've worked hard to get their wisdom, but I think they just love to share it with everybody. I mean, they've helped over 1,000 families already, helped buy and sell homes. So I'm just so thrilled to have Chuck with us today. So Chuck, I gave a little bit of your bio, but is there something I missed there? Or can you just really just take us on a journey about how you started your own journey in real estate? Chuck: Yeah. I mean, we've known each other for a long time, too, so we knew each other when neither one of us was a big deal, right? It's been fun. I think the first thing you do is you start to master sales. And I remember hearing this at The McQueenie Method Conferences. You master the sales part, and then you start to go, “Okay, I'm getting overwhelmed here.” And so now you need to hire and leverage. And then after you get some hiring done, and you figure out what's good and what doesn't work, then you reach a point where now you become a leader. And I think that's where I'm trying to go now, is to just really be a good leader to the people around us, going from “me” to “we,” to in some cases, “they.” Glenn: Well I think you'll find, and I know you're probably already seeing this, is just the freedom you get when you're not the one who has to do everything anymore. And when you stay in your Unique Ability 80% of the time, because you're just good at doing this, then you get to leverage everyone else's Unique Ability. But your team didn't just go, “Poof!” and you had a team. I mean, tell us a little bit of your journey. You started as really just you and Melissa. Chuck: It was a husband-wife team, and we had no kids. It was just the two of us. We worked 80-90 hours a week. We had a house that we worked out of, and it was three bedrooms. There was the master bedroom, and then there were two offices upstairs. And so, we just worked and worked and worked until we got so tired we had to take a vacation probably every 90 days. And what really changed for us was when we had our first daughter, Vivian, who's now almost 8 years old. I mean, you can't work like that when you have kids, when you have a family. It's not balanced. So that was the prompting to start. We started with the assistant, went through that whole process. Our business went down when we got an assistant, funnily enough, which is not what's supposed to happen, but it did, because I think we kind of put it on cruise control a bit, and you can't really do that. You've got to stay focused; you've got to be hungry. One of the things that I've learned in my life is I either need something chasing me, or I need something that I'm striving towards in order to really be an effective human being. Because otherwise, I come from pretty humble beginnings, and I almost feel like I'm already in the bonus round. So I've learned that I need that discomfort. I need to feel like I'm moving in a direction in order to really just fill my day with the right things, and just to be on the bleeding edge of doing something positive. Glenn: That is so amazing. What I heard you say there is you're almost just striving to get better for the sake of getting better just to keep your interest going. Chuck: Well, you do, because I think there comes a point with moving from survival, (and I've been in survival before), and then you get a little bit of success, and then you move to that significance, and the money doesn't drive you, right? It just doesn't. It reaches a point, and I'm still not at a point where I could live the rest of my life on what's been saved up, but I think that it has to be about something more, which leads us into this whole conversation of niches, is: “Who do you want to be a hero for?” I think that's a very enticing message for somebody, is that you can show up like that, versus “I need to get a commission cheque.” Glenn: Right. So how did you discover your niche? I know a lot of people will kind of flip back and forth and chase the next shiny object, and I find people like yourself, they tend to almost just line up what they're really interested in and their natural strengths to find their niche. So how did you discover about Milton Daily Homes niche? And if you can, tell everybody about what that is. Chuck: Yeah. So we started back in 2010. We started a daily video called “Milton Daily Homes” and we talked about all the homes that have listed in the last 24 hours in Milton. We do it Monday-Friday. So I think there's like 1,400 episodes up at Milton Daily Homes. And where that started was, we had a pile of leads that we weren't getting to – which is a problem, by the way. I think a lot of people listening would say “Well that's a good problem to have.” It's still a problem, because it's like you're burning money. You're generating leads, and they're not being cared for properly. So I looked at it and I said, “All of these people want the same thing. They want to receive listings by email.” So then I started talking with our mutual friend, Dean Jackson, and we came up with this idea. Originally, the first idea was, “Well every home that's listed, why don't we go and see the home, and then we can film it, and say ‘Look, I've been in here. Here's what I like about it, here's what I don't like in some cases.'” But then I thought, logistically, that would take so much time. But what I do every morning is I wake up and I see what's come new on the market, and I thought, “Could I just make something where it's almost like someone looking over my shoulder?” And all I need to do is just say the things that are going on in my brain, because I think all realtors are going to look at a list of homes that come out, and there's going to be a list that they really love, and there's going to be a list that's just okay, and there's going to be a list that really they're not that into, for whatever reason. Maybe it's a bad location. Maybe the price is high. And so I started looking into the technology of how I could make that happen, and we use a program called ScreenFlow for Mac. It's only for the Mac. I think Camtasia would work for a PC, but you can actually just record what's on your computer screen, you can record through a webcam, yourself in front of the computer, and then you just grab a microphone and get the audio. And that's how it started. So Milton Daily Homes was just me telling people my thoughts on what's been listed in Milton. And that list – at the time we were already building a list of about 6,000 people – it's now up to almost 15,000 that we send an email saying a new episode's up. Glenn: That is, just, one of the best leverage examples I think I've ever heard. You can actually record once and distribute it, at really no cost, to 15,000 people in your community. Chuck: Right. And how we get that list is we offer something. The only way anyone's going to fill in a form on a website is if they believe it's of benefit to them. So we have a lot of squeeze pages and landing pages and things that we've set up so that people would fill in that form. I think sometimes people try and do too much with their websites. So Milton Daily Homes is a bonding tool to help us move the relationship along. We don't believe we can make someone move faster than they want to, but we're always there saying “By the way, here's the new episode.” But I think that if you can get that name and email from the website, (and this goes for whatever their niche is). So if you can get their contact information and you build that list, and the list is all of a common interest. So in our case, it's people that want to hear about listings in Milton. For other people, it may be first-time buyers. For other people, it may be downsizers. But that list all shares the common thread, that they want to buy, and in some cases, sell a home in Milton, and they want to be informed about their decision. So that's the fun thing. That list, when it's congruent like that, we can start to make offers to the list, saying “Would you like to come on a tour of homes?” “Would you like to come to a buyer class?” And they've already said that they're interested in some kind of real estate. So oftentimes, it's just a matter of if they're ready, and if they're free on that day. So we always get good responses when we put those offers out to the list. Glenn: What I love is you're just in perfect alignment with what the consumer wants, right? And the consumer can search MLS by themselves, or they can have a bit of a coach, with you sending out your feedback on every listing. And I love how you're edgy on it, too. You don't just say, “Oh, and here's another beautiful house.” You're like, “This one is really great.” “This one, not so much.” “Here's my top pick.” And you're really building trust and rapport, and you're really allowing them to move when they're ready to move. It's so interesting. So many agents are like, “Oh, I've got to get a deal this month” or “My buyers aren't buying.” And it's kind of like, “You know what? People are going to move on their own schedule, and the more that you can scale up your numbers, then the law of numbers and percentages just starts working in your favour.” And I love how you started, and you've just built it. And I'd love to know, really, what the payoff has been just over the last couple years? It's gone from you and Melissa, to what does your business look like now? Chuck: So there are 10 of us on the team now. There's eight licensed, two admin, although my wife doesn't really sell anymore. That was one of the results of having kids, is that one of us needed to step back a little bit. But she runs the team. She's incredibly talented at being a leader on the team. And I still do some team leadership. I'll sell my 30 homes a year kind of thing. I'm not going full tilt at the business, but my job is to really mentor and to help the agents become, in my eyes, even better than me. I think a lot of people, when they grow a team, they're afraid of that, right? Some people feel like they need to almost hold people back. But I think, and you and I have talked a lot about hiring and finding talent, I think you can't hold talent back. You've got to just boost them up. You've got to give them rocket fuel, you know? That's what they want. Glenn: The moment you put a lid on talent, it's just like anyone saying, “Okay, Chuck. You're not allowed to do anything more right now in your life.” That's the moment when you're out of there. You're like, “No one's putting a limit on me.” And talent just wants the opportunity. Chuck: Yeah. Talent wants to go big, right? Yeah. So, I mean, when you talked about edgy, I mean, it's just, we try and have fun. You have to have some kind of personality to show up and to talk to people about what's going on in the market. But I think the missing link, and the thing that as the real estate industry changes, and you've talked about in The McQueenie Method, a lot of the trends, you know, the move towards teams and the move towards niches, but I think the other thing that's going to happen in the future is the information is almost going to become ubiquitous. It's not going to be anything special to have information. But I think the interpretation, I think the curating of information, so, for example, the 5 best homes with pools in Milton – that's something you can't Google. Being inside of the last house that sold and knowing what that's about – you can't Google that. Knowing that 50 of your past clients live in a very small area, and to have in-depth knowledge of schools – those are things that you just can't put in an algorithm. So there's a guy named Dave Pell who writes a great blog called “Next Draft,” and I love what he put on his website. He said, “I am the algorithm.” I love that thought that I'm the algorithm. Glenn: Well you are. Because everyone can Google the general, and even sometimes some specific, limited information. Then what's the perceived value of a realtor now? But the more you can create, and I love what you're doing, is creating, it's almost like that hyper-local, organic knowledge and wisdom that will never be able to be Googled. Chuck: Right. And there's the whole idea of competition. It's very hard to come second after I've created the space. There's value in being the pioneer. There's a little bit of that celebrity factor where people kind of meet you and they're like, “Oh my God. You're Chuck! I've watched you.” And I've had people say that we watch you in bed together, and it's really funny to see the real human connection that's there. But I think after doing this for six years, I still believe that the videos will build the relationship with somebody, but I think it's not the money-maker. And so all those fundamentals still have to be there. Like I think you've got to follow-up thoroughly with people. You've got to make sure that you're responding in a timely manner. You've got to put lots of calls to action around the video. You've got to move that forward. Like I said, come on a tour of homes, come to a class, get a copy of this guide. You've got to have good conversation skills, right? And I mean, even the fact that I send an email 14,000 times, or basically every day 14-15,000 times, that's that leverage thing. I mean, if you're going to do videos, because I've had people that have asked me, “Can I do Barrie Daily Homes?” or “Toronto Daily Homes?” But you've got to build that list first, because if you don't have the audience, it's just not worth your time. Glenn: I was just going to say, your business is your database. And that's what you've got. You've got a massive database. And I'm always, not surprised, but amazed when agents are like, “Well Chuck, I want what you've got. But I don't really want to do what you had to do to get it.” Chuck: Right. Well that's the thing. I mean, if you look at how much we've spent, like we've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to get that list together. It's still multiplied the investment many times over, but it's a business. Money goes in one side and then more money should pop out the other end. And my involvement is pretty much about a half hour a day to make that happen. Glenn: That's great. So why do you think the conventional wisdom of two hours of lead-generation, like cold calling, door-knocking, is so prevalent in our industry right now, rather than your more targeted, niche-based approach? Why do you think that is? Chuck: Well I still think that it's indisputable that more efforts toward lead conversion is going to be a good thing for any business, and that includes ours. But I think the game is, can you somehow make it so that if you're going to make 100 phone calls in a day, or speak to 100 people, how can you make sure that list is as concentrated as possible? And the whole game of Internet lead-generation is: provide something, a form or some information where they leave their contact information. And maybe 10% of those people out of the calls you make are going to be ready. When you're door-knocking, the same kind of thing. But the nice thing about a niche is that if you could line it up so that they're all responding or they're all coming to you, and let's say 50 of those people are ready out of the 100. Because time is finite, right? If you only have 100 attempts to make, you want to make sure that concentration is as high as possible. I mean, the example everyone thinks of is like a referral-based business, where almost every time your phone rings, it's somebody who's like, “Yeah, my brother told me about you.” That's a very high probability piece of business right there. That's why people that run referral-based businesses have such a good life. And you can do that with a niche as well. Glenn: Yeah. Well it's high-margin, right? And it's also working with people who like, trust, already know you, probably have a similar mindset to you. It's more friction-free. It's just a much easier, high-margin business than, you know, this model of everyone trying to be everything to everyone, you know? It just amazes me that sometimes we even have to argue that, right? Because to me, I'm like, “Just look around. The whole world's gone niche.” And the Internet really created a lot of these niche markets, because that's where people who like purple poodles wearing polka dot hats – there's going to be a site for that, because that's what they're all interested in. And I think that's what you've done. So what advice, or specific action steps, would you tell someone who's listening to this podcast to take? What would be the first step if they wanted to get into their niche and find their niche? What would you tell them? Chuck: Well I saw at the conference that one of the hardest things for people to do is to choose the niche, is just make a decision. But I think one of the things is, you can't be too specific, right? I mean, I hear people saying that they want to work with doctors who are pet owners in a particular building. And there are maybe five of those that exist in the world. It needs to be small enough that you can define it in its edges, but it also has to be big enough that you could run a business of significance. And one of the reasons we moved to Milton is because it was just kind of a smaller pond, and I think one of the dilemmas in a bigger city like Toronto is, it's almost like you become this “from sea to shining sea” agent, where you're driving an hour to get to your next appointment. And I love the purity of saying, “What if I could only drive 10 minutes in either direction to do business?” Glenn: Right. Well it's just more effective in higher margin, isn't it? Chuck: It is. Yeah, absolutely. I love the geography of being in a town that's just over 100,000 people. And that doesn't mean that we can't choose to work in other areas, but we've really kind of carved out and said, “This is where we want to do business.” And just in creating that trusted relationship through Daily Homes, gives us, I think, an advantage that no other agent is doing. I think that while they're doing their whatever it is, magazine ads or billboards, we're sitting here online, saying, “Look. Come into our house, and we're going to make sure that you're taken care of really, really well, and we're going to tell you everything we know. And when you're ready, all you need to do is ring the bell.” Glenn: What an amazing system you've developed, Chuck. Is there anything else that you'd like to add, or a question that I did not ask you? I know you're a really big deal, and a busy guy, so just before we wrap up, is there anything else that you'd like to add? Chuck: You know, I'm just thankful to even be a part of the conversation around niche markets, and I love what you're doing. I love the course. The conference that you created is amazing. And I've been to a lot of conferences in my life, and I kind of show up a little bit sceptical now, saying, “Okay, how much am I really going to learn at this point?” because it's a point of diminishing returns. But I was drinking from the fire hose at your conference, so that's one of the highest compliments I could give you, is that you've hung around with really smart people. I hung around with you, and we talk on a semi-regular basis. But the course, the book, everything is amazing that you've created, and my advice is hang around with smart people, and good things happen. Glenn: Wow. You're the best, Chuck. And thanks for the plug, too. That was amazing. Well, thank you. And I'm grateful to you, and I'm grateful for our friendship, and I'm really grateful that you took some time to share your wisdom with the people on this podcast. So thank you very much, Chuck, and have a great day. Thank you. Chuck: Thank you. Glenn: Okay, bye bye. Closing: Thank you for listening to my 20-minute podcast on Insights of Successful Niches. My goal is to give you more financial freedom by helping you take your natural strengths to a target market of people you'd love to work with. You could find out more information by downloading my book for free for a limited time. The book's called “The McQueenie Method: Own Your Niche, Own Your Market” and you can download it at TheMcQueenieMethodbook.com. That's TheMcQueenieMethodbook.com. Imagine what it'd be like to spend two days with me in person to help you find your niche market. I will help you take your natural strengths and unique abilities to a target market of people you'd love to work with. You'll build a tribe of happy clients who become raving fans of your business. So, just go to TheMcQueenieMethod.com for upcoming dates. Thanks again and have a great day.

The Stuph File Program Featuring journalist Dave Pell from NextDraft; tech guru Tom Merritt, host of Daily Tech News Show; & Peter Franklin, the Gabby Cabby Download Journalist Dave Pell from NextDraft on the serious charge that the profession has to rail against, that of the growing emergence of “fake news.” Tech guru Tom Merritt, host of many programs, including Daily Tech News Show shares some tech tips. Peter Franklin, the Gabby Cabby, shares a slice of The Big Apple from his yellow mobile conveyance lounge. This week’s opening guest slate is presented by Brett Rounsaville, founder of Mission Pic.

Editor's note: We're proud to bring NextDraft-the most righteous, most essential newsletter on the web-to WIRED.com. Every Friday you'll get a roundup of the week's most popular must-read stories from around the internet, courtesy of mastermind Dave Pell. So dig in and geek out.

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It's been almost two years since I started Further, my curated email newsletter about personal growth. And there's no mistaking that the project was inspired by Dave Pell's NextDraft. Content curation is all about becoming a trusted editorial source that finds the best information within a certain topic from amongst the valueless clickbait and mediocre... Listen to episode

The Stuph File Program Featuring journalist Dave Pell of NextDraft; Anelia Sutton from TinyLittleEmpires.com; & Stuart Nulman with Book Banter Download San Francisco based journalist Dave Pell has an excellent online newsletter, NextDraft, that features a collection of news items he gathers each day. He's also one half of a great podcast duo, along with journalist and editor Phil Bronstein, called What Hurts. Anelia Sutton, from TinyLittleEmpires.com, says you shouldn't rely on luck when it comes to your financial future. There are better ways to financial freedom, especially in the ever-evolving web-world. The next generation of millionaires can be found on the Internet, turning websites into global businesses. Anelia offers a free 33-page book that you can download from her site. Stuart Nulman is on with another edition of Book Banter.  This week’s reviewed book is Andy & Don: The Making of a Friendship and a Classic American TV Show written by Daniel De Vise, (Simon & Schuster, $34). You can also read Stuart’s reviews in The Montreal Times.  This week's opening slate is presented by Montreal broadcaster, Al Randall.

The most fascinating news on the internet always seems to find its way into Dave Pell’s carefully curated — and always entertaining — NextDraft email newsletter.   Rainmaker.FM is Brought to You By   Discover why more than 80,000 companies in 135 countries choose WP Engine for managed WordPress hosting. Start getting more from your site today! Mr. Pell has turned his addiction for getting the scoop into a vast and loyal following of A-list media heads. He calls NextDraft his “modern-day column,” and the infectious, one-man curation engine is hard to delete (although he believes his friends do it often). In addition to being a successful venture capitalist, Dave carves out time to do a weekly podcast with veteran journalist Phil Bronstein called What Hurts, a unique blend of “fascinating news and personal angst.” In this file Dave Pell and I discuss: The Downside of Technology How to Turn an Addiction to News into an Audience Video Game Music as a Productivity Hack Why You Should Always Delete Your First Paragraph The Real Difference Between Writing and Podcasting How Tony Soprano Raised Dave Pell’s Stock Listen to The Writer Files: Writing, Productivity, Creativity, and Neuroscience below ... Download MP3 Subscribe by RSS Subscribe in iTunes The Show Notes NextDraft: The Day’s Most Fascinating News from Dave Pell ‘What Hurts’ Podcast By Phil Bronstein and Dave Pell Dave Pell on Medium Publishing Lessons from Dave Pell, the Most Fascinating Email Newsletter Writer in the Business Dave Pell on Twitter Kelton Reid on Twitter

"I never thought I would look forward to getting an email again." Dave is a news junkie and the author of daily email newsletter NextDraft, which he describes as a "modern day news column".  He organizes the newsletter into the 10 most fascinating news items of the day, works on it for 3-4 hours in the morning and blasts it out around 1 pm PST.  Dave is famous for having 75 tabs open at any one time as he scours the net for news every day. "I lock in pretty hard and open up my laptop, not moving a ton other than getting coffee or water for about 3 or 4 hours."  The NextDraft perspective comes from being very well read along with being both curious and horrified by humanity, as well as offering varying perspectives on any given story.  If you're looking for a daily wrap up of the most day's most fascinating stories, NextDraft is a fantastic place to start.  The real power of NextDraft comes from Dave's personality; when you read it every day it feels like Dave wrote the email just for you and not for the 75,000 email subscribers on his list plus the 120,000 NextDraft app users.  Among those users are counted some of the most powerful and plugged in journalists out there, making NextDraft not just a "repeater station" but much more of a high signal to noise operation than you'd normally find. "What NextDraft does is slow the news down and deliver news from a perspective you can learn to trust." Having always wanted to be part of the news business and the media industry, Dave says NextDraft is a joy to write and that shows in every word he types in. In this interview, Dave talks about the genesis of one of the most popular email newsletters on the net, how much feedback he gets, and what he's proudest of. Not only is this podcast well worth a listen, this is an email newsletter worth signing up for. Cheers, Nik & the PT Crew  

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Dan and Danielle talk about the film adaptation Glengarry Glen Ross (1992) and discuss the toxic, cut-throat world of sales. Later they take calls and they hear from Studio Kittie, Angry Guy, and more. Links for this episode:Glengarry Glen Ross (1992) - IMDbAn examination of the machinations behind the scenes at a real estate office. Glengarry Glen Ross speech - YouTubeBlake was written into the script by David Mamet for the film version of Glengarry Glen Ross (1992). Alec Baldwin's portrayal of the vitriol-spewing sales coach has lost none of its sting since the film's release and continues to be widely circulated as a testament to America's occupational and economic anxieties. Why do employees stop caring? (and how to change that) | JordonCooper.comCorp Stooge Diary - Entries - Stooge ready to quitA day in the life of the Corporate Stooge 5by5 | Quit! #19: A New Level of Disgruntled5:30 The first appearance of Angry Guy, Chris Glengarry Glen Ross (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia“I can speak only to a…‘Mrs. Nyborg.’” | kung fu grippekittienumnums (kittienumnums) on TwitterNextDraft: The Day's Most Fascinating News by Dave PellCOMPUTER CHESSSponsored by Squarespace. Use code STOOGE6 for a free trial and 10% off.

Georgia gave Herschel Walker the Heisman (Thanks, Dave Pell) -and youth voters were a big part of it. Joe and Alex break down the Georgia win and what it means with special guest Victor Shi - who's been hard at work organizing Gen Z and youth voters. What are they doing that has MAGA so freaked out? And no, Newt, it isn't just getting on TikTok. What's the path forward for Democrats to capitalize on their historic wins with Gen Z? Check out more of Victor's work @VictorShi2020 on Twitter.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/that-trippi-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy