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Today's topic is parking reform and we talk with Tony Jordan, founder of the Parking Reform Network which aims to use policies and activism to discourage the building of too much parking supply in U.S. cities -- a problem that raises the costs of construction, contributes to car dominance, and hinders alternatives like transit from thriving. Links: Parking Reform Network site https://parkingreform.org/ Free Parking Is Killing Cities https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-08-31/why-free-parking-is-bad-according-to-one-ucla-professor Parking Dominates Our Cities. But Do We Really *See* It? https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/11/27/parking-dominates-our-cities-but-do-we-really-see-it Note: thanks much to Blue Tannery for assistance with editing this episode.

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Donald Shoup, author of "The High Cost of Free Parking," has died. Tony Jordan, President of the Parking Reform Network, talks about Shoup's decades of teaching, writing, and speaking on reversing subsidized free car storage (1:16). Find our interviews with the Professor of Parking by searching "Shoup" at biketalk.org. CalBike Joins Amicus Brief in Safe Streets Accountability Case after lower courts categorized bike riders as “recreational” street users who venture onto public streets at their own risk. Kendra Ramsey, Executive Director of the California Bicycle Coalition, lays out how sweeping the implications could be for California's riders (11:00). The man who coined the famous term "15 Minute Cities" and was central to Paris' bike revolution, Carlos Moreno (19:49). Reviews by Elly Blue, author of Bikenomics and editor of Portland's Microcosm Publishing: Marshall Taylor's autobiography, Romantasy "The Ministry of Time," and the anime film Suzume (41:18). Buy the books Elly reviewed at Bike.org's Bookshop. Eric Dunn, Director of the Wild and Scenic film festival, on bike-related offerings in this year's lineup (47:07). Detroit's Bike The Blizzard rides this month with Back Alley Bikes. Justin and Reo Ramsey relate (54:54).

What does parking have to do with climate change? Everything, according to Parking Reform Network founder and president Tony Jordan. Getting rid of parking mandates in Oregon means that housing developers can also build more units rather than having to set aside space for car infrastructure. Four years ago there were fewer than a dozen cities nationwide that had lifted their parking mandates. Since then, the number has grown to 70, with 18 of them in Oregon. Jordan joins us to talk about how his Portland-based, national nonprofit group helps cities around the country remove parking requirements to support the larger goals of reducing emissions and creating sustainable infrastructure. 

Send us a Text Message.Episode 300 is different. This isn't just an interview.First off, this interview came together in about 10 minutes of texts. When Aaron realized that T.C. was from our hometown of Bedford, the wheels went into motion. Thanks to the efforts of several key people, this interview took place.T.C. and Aaron graduated from the same High School in Cleveland, Ohio (Bedford). They are proud of their hometown and the city that made them. In this interview, we sit down with T.C. and discuss his success, his projects (including novacancymovie.com), and his upbringing in the 216.Cannot thank T.C. enough for squeezing us in today. We're forever linked now! Unscripted!T.C. Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television. T.C.'s desires shifted from football to acting in 2004 when he landed a spot on Animal Planet's King of the Jungle, a reality television show where he emerged as the season 2 champion. In 2011, T.C. made his feature film debut in the movie COURAGEOUS. In 2015 he performed his break-out role as Tony Jordan in the hit film WAR ROOM, which hit No. 1 at the box office. T.C. has acted in commercials, is an author and producer, writer and director. His documentary 24 COUNTER: THE STORY BEHIND THE RUN received a film festival nomination for Most Inspirational Documentary. T.C. also is a nationwide brand ambassador for Clearplay, a company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options.To find out more about T.C. visit –https://tcstallings.life/No Vacancy Movie –https://novacancymovie.comSupport the Show.

We must talk about your parking regulations. In fact, we must mock them. In no other area of life do head spins quicker, and people's opinions take on truly bizarre forms, than we we talk about parking. I get it, we are a culture obsessed with driving and parking. It's part of nearly adult's daily routine. In this episode, Tony Jordan of the Parking Reform Network and I have some fun with it, while also diving into the nitty-gritty of how to make change in your community.As a bonus, Tony describes some of the most bizarre, and most hilarious parking requirements he's run across.Here's a link to Donald Shoup's article, “Roughly Right or Precisely Wrong.”Find more content on The Messy City on Kevin's Substack page.Music notes: all songs by low standards, ca. 2010. Videos here. If you'd like a CD for low standards, message me and you can have one for only $5.Intro: “Why Be Friends”Outro: “Fairweather Friend”Transcript:Kevin K (00:00.92) Welcome back to the Missy City podcast. This is Kevin Klinkenberg. Today we're going to talk about everybody's favorite topic, parking. The bane of my existence for most of my professional career, but we've got Tony Jordan here with us today from the Parking Reform Network. And I'm really looking forward to this conversation so we can get into the weeds a little bit on what's actually an incredibly important topic. So Tony, welcome. Tony Jordan (00:28.617) Thanks so much. Happy to be here. Kevin K (00:31.064) Well, it's a pleasure to have you. I ran into you in Cincinnati at the Strong Towns National Gathering and seeing you and we were chatting over a couple of beers and it just seemed like, you know, as soon as we start talking, it feels like, well, this probably should be a podcast. You know, we should spend more time getting into things. So I'm grateful you were able to make some time to be able to join. Tony, before we go too far, why don't we tell me what is the Parking Reform Network and how... How long has it been around? Tony Jordan (01:03.081) the parking reform network is a, 501 C three organization that was founded, founded in the spring of 2019 and we launched in March of 2020. and it, yeah, it was actually okay for organizing a national organization because everything moved online. Like we, we, people were much more amenable to slacking and, using zoom calls, but we, the idea behind. Kevin K (01:16.92) Good timing. Tony Jordan (01:33.641) The need I saw, I had been doing parking reform locally in Portland, Oregon, where I'm from, or where I live, for years, helping to get rid of parking mandates that had been added back in and removing them entirely from the city and worked on upzoning projects too. And the whole while I really felt like one of the things that was missing in advancing parking reform was, having an advocacy organization and a community that really was helping to educate the public and advance these policies. The practitioners and the city council even often knew that these policies were bad, the existing ones, but the public support wasn't there. So founding the Parking Inform Network, it's a community of practitioners, academics, activists, policymakers who... We exist to kind of build a community and a movement around educating the public about parking policy and accelerating reforms. And we do that through a number of research and outreach and advocacy avenues. Kevin K (02:47.352) That's cool. So how did you, what was your background then getting into this? Were you in planning or transportation or talk a little bit about like how you came to this, to this spot. Tony Jordan (02:57.641) Yeah, I mean, I grew up in Los Angeles in San Pedro, the port of LA, and went to school at Santa Cruz and got a politics degree. And then I moved up to Portland and I mostly worked in tech for most of my career, web design, backend, server services programming. And I also, but I also did a couple, I worked at a couple of jobs as a labor organizer. So my background was not at all in planning. I got rid of my car. We got rid of our household's car in 2008. I had a two year old. We had another child in 2010. And I feel like that kind of primed the pump. I started looking around transportation a little differently. And then in 2010, I read a blog post very randomly on a website called Metafilter that was about the high cost of reparking, about Professor Shoup's book that had come out years before. And I am the kind of person, if I hear something interesting, I'll go look up the Wikipedia or I'll look into it. And so I got the book on inner library loan and started reading it. And I was just like, my mind was blown. Shoop has asked me, you know, one time, what did you think when you read the book? And I was like, man, I felt like I was eating a hamburger and reading the jungle. Like it was really like, what is going on? You look once you your eyes are open to this, you look around. I live across the street from a parking lot. I worked overlooking a parking lot and I just like your. to understand why, how much these things cost and then why they're there was just like, why doesn't everyone know this? I looked at my own zoning code in Portland and actually at the time Portland was a pretty, was pretty Vanguard city. We had no parking mandates on our corridors, on our bus, our frequent service corridors that had passed in 2002 kind of to little fanfare. And, but then a couple of years later, In 2012, all of a sudden, they started building apartments on a couple of these corridors. Division Street was one, North Williams. And they were building like 30, 40, 50 apartments in a building with no parking. And they were leasing up. And then someone proposed someone got permitted at 81 unit building on the street with no parking and the neighborhood just went nuts. And they started petitioning the city council to add parking mandates back. Tony Jordan (05:18.633) And so there was a pro they started considering this and I said, Hey, I just read this book a couple of years ago and I started going to city council and I met people who were interested, but they weren't really very organized. And so I started just like creating a mailing list and, and, you know, we lost, they actually added parking mandates back in, but that kind of got me totally started. That was when I first reached out to professor Shoop. He wrote an op ed. And I started just that, that really kicked off. the fuel of like, okay, we need to be better organized on this and next time we're not gonna lose. Kevin K (05:52.152) Interesting. So if I could go back like you said in 2008, you got rid of your car. What prompted you all to, and you had a two -year -old. So what, do you like hate America so much you decided to get rid of your cars? What was that all about? Tony Jordan (06:06.665) You know, the check engine light went on and I took it into, I just afford focus 2004 focus second car ever owned. I took it to the dealer and I mean not to the dealer to the repair shop and they thought, this is the transmission. I thought, man, that transmission on that car has always been weird. Sure. And they, it was going to be $2 ,000. And, and I said, okay. And then they called me back and said, you know, it's not the transmission. We looked at it. Like we haven't charged you anything, but we think it's the computer maybe. So here. Kevin K (06:10.104) Ha ha ha. Tony Jordan (06:36.233) put this little dongle on and drive around for a week. And I said, how much does the computer cost? And they said, $2 ,000. And I was like, okay. And then I drove around and they came back and they said, nah, it's not the computer. We think it's this. How much is that? And I was like, they said engine or something, engine rebuild. And I was like, $2 ,000. And I was just like, man, if I pay for this to get fixed, I obviously expect that either the computer or the transmission will break next. And that will, so I just thought like, this is going to be a never ending money pit. So I told my wife and I discussed it and we had. We lived in Portland, we lived near Transit, I had a bike, we lived near Zipcar, right? Zipcar, it was kind of in the center of Zipcar. And so we said, let's put the car in the garage and just try six months without driving it. And we did. And then at the end of six months, I sold it to the dealer for $2 ,000. And so I was up $4 ,000. And then I never really looked back at buying a... Kevin K (07:22.52) What a cool idea. Kevin K (07:34.936) And that's just, hey, I really like, I mean, that's a great way to just like, let's test it out. Let's see if we can handle it for a while. And so then in terms of like having small children, I know myself having small children, it's not the easiest thing in the world because it's just, you know, there are so many things that you might want to take your kids to that you just need a car to get around. How did you manage that? Tony Jordan (07:55.945) I mean, some of it, we just didn't do as many things. My son took offense to this when I told him when he was older, but I said, one of the nice things was it does kind of make some decisions for you. It simplifies your life. So you're probably only gonna go to one birthday party in a weekend unless they're very close to one another, right? Like, or in a day, right? So some of it, initially we used Zipcar quite a bit and... Kevin K (08:15.608) God, that sounds magical. Tony Jordan (08:24.489) you know, tapered that off over time. And obviously with small, small kids, it's a little bit harder, but we know we carried the kids on our carriers. We never did, you know, when they got a little older, I had a bike trailer I would take to preschool. But it does, you know, you kind of adjust your life over time. It's not, it's not easy. I feel like we are a bit of like, you know, first adopters, still people who are voluntarily living in solidarity with people who can't drive. or can't own vehicles, right? Those people exist in our communities. And so, you know, I experience a lot of the same frustrations voluntarily, but I also have the capacity to try and, you know, argue for it. So, I mean, I think that, you know, my kids do sports or my daughter dances, my son does ultimate frisbee and other things, and he rides his bike to work now at Trader Joe's, and they take the bus, and they're just very independent. And I'm sure there are, you know, opportunities that... we can't do, but I mean, that's kind of life. You make decisions and in exchange, they really are, you know, they know how to get around. And I think they're gonna, I think it's gonna really give them a good leg up when they get to, you know, college or, you know, as the world has to adapt and reduce car dependency, you know, it's not gonna be as painful for them, I think, as you make these changes. Kevin K (09:51.224) How do you know, do you notice much of a difference then between like them and their friends and just other families that they, that you might run around with and like just their own habits and behaviors in that regard? Tony Jordan (10:01.769) Yeah, I mean, a lot of even though we live in a place that's pretty walkable, like obviously a lot of the other parents do drive frequently. I don't begrudge them that. My children get rides with other parents sometimes, too. I mean, we're you know, I don't think we'll offer to pay sometimes. Or, you know, like it's it's not like we're trying to be complete moochers or freeloaders on this. But, you know, like I think it on one hand, like my daughter, When she started middle school, other parents were often driving and we said, hey, we're not going to drive, so let's get our kids riding the bikes. And so our kids had their own mini bike group. And then as she didn't want to ride as much anymore, she would take the bus and other kids would learn to take the bus with her. So there is, I think, by just living a lifestyle that is less car dependent, sometimes I think people find it grating, like, these holier than thou. anti -car people, but at the same time, like it is an example. Like you can see it being done and other kids do it. My son now is 17. So he, you know, some of his friends are getting driver's licenses, but a lot of them aren't. One of the bigger conflicts is he's in film class and a lot of film is done. Well, not only logging, lugging gear around, but obviously, but it's a very common set piece, right? Is to be in a car or driving a car from point A to point B and Kevin K (11:28.248) Hmm. Tony Jordan (11:30.313) So one of his frustrations is he doesn't have a card to do these film transitions, you know, but it's, you know, I think it's worked out mostly okay. Kevin K (11:39.512) Have you ever tried to like quantify, you know, like how much money this has saved you over the years? Tony Jordan (11:47.337) I mean, I have not, other than the initial calculus I did where it was like, I'm up $4 ,000 on, and I can use that for zip car or whatever. I mean, I know it does. It definitely, I don't, I'm not the best budgeter, honestly. So I don't keep a spreadsheet, but I mean, the fact that we haven't owned a car for these years has definitely, you know, we take cheaper modes. And to some degree you do less, you do just do less stuff and that. Kevin K (12:04.26) Yeah. Tony Jordan (12:16.873) you know, simplifies your life and makes it a little bit cheaper. Kevin K (12:21.912) Yeah, I mean, I promise I'll get off on other topics, but I just find it's interesting when people are able to live in a way that we're told you can't live. So have you found that not having the car has opened up ways for you to spend money on other things in your life that maybe you wouldn't have been able to do otherwise? Tony Jordan (12:25.705) No problem. Tony Jordan (12:45.289) once again, I don't sure specifically like how much it impacts that. I mean, obviously the cost of buying some nice bikes is, you know, still much cheaper than, than spending on a car or the gas. I still have to pay for insurance. I mean, I still voluntarily pay for insurance. I don't have to, but I have a non -name donor policy, which is kind of expensive. you know, I think more, it just, it just, I find it is a much. more, it's a much more peaceful and relaxing way to live in most times. Like driving is so stressful, especially if you live in a larger city. Like it's, at least to me, it's scary. You, you, if you think about it, it's not like you're kind of making life difficult for everyone else who's not in your car at the expense of your convenience for the most part. And so I just find the ability to not have to like one of the best dividend is I never have to worry about like, you know, like that responsibility or that pressure or that inconvenience. If I'm on the bus, even if it's in traffic, I can be on my phone or be talking to who I'm with and not be worrying about piloting. Kevin K (14:00.408) Yeah, and you don't have to sweat finding a place to park wherever you're going. So that's kind of a nice thing. So then were you working in tech pretty much all the way up through the beginning of forming the Parking Reform Network? Tony Jordan (14:03.209) Exactly, yeah. Tony Jordan (14:14.025) Yeah, I mean, mostly, even when I worked for, so I worked two times for unions. I worked for the University of California, professional technical employees before I moved up to Portland. And then I worked for AFT organizing nurses. In both those jobs, I still often did the backend database or the website. And then I spent the 13 years before that working at a company that did online admissions applications. So yeah, I was mostly in. Kevin K (14:19.256) Okay. Kevin K (14:38.52) Okay, that's really cool. So then when you formed this nonprofit, who else kind of formed it with you or was this pretty much like you're taking this initiative on or were there others that really said they wanted to jump on board with you? Tony Jordan (14:51.561) I had been in discussions. So Portland has a great advocacy scene. So I had initially formed or after where I left off the story about the losing and parking mandates coming back. A couple of years after that, I started an organization called well, initially it was called Portland Shoopistas and then at Shoop's suggestion, we changed it to Portlanders for Parking Reform. And that was kind of just a low, I had a blog, a website, a newsletter, you know, an advocacy org that worked in partnership. Kevin K (15:02.488) Yeah, yeah. Tony Jordan (15:19.657) with other coalitions to just kind of like keep an eye on what was happening with various, you know, on street and off street parking policies in Portland and in the region and, you know, organize testimony and events and just kind of build awareness. So in that process, I worked with many. Portland has just, you know, freeway fighter this year. We have, you know, housing activists. It's a great scene. Michael Anderson from Sightline Institute and I had been talking about the concept of he proposed we should have a green lane project, which was a project of people for bikes to propose protected bike lanes. He said, you know, we should have, there should be some sort of project for parking similar. Like the idea was like, maybe get a cohort of cities together and take them on a discovery trip. And then they pledged to go review their parking code. And so we had pitched, he helped pitch that around to a couple of places and no one was really interested in hosting a similar project. that kind of consensus was it's hard to fundraise for parking reform, which is true. And so a couple of years later, I was in Chicago speaking at the Parking Industry Expo with these two women, Jane Wilberding and Lindsay Bailey. And... we kind of started hatching a concept around like, you know, like what, how do we, like, what would be a larger organization or, you know, a movement around this. And then I went to APA in San Francisco in 2019, Shoop was talking and there was, you know, a bunch of parking people there. And we met another student, we met a recent grad, Mike Kwan, who had graduated from Santa Cruz and now lives in DC. And so I said, you know, I asked, basically we were out at, at, at dinner with Patrick Sigmund, who is the original Chupista. And kind of we're just talking about like, you know, I think there just should need there needs to be something there needs to be an organization that is focused holistically on parking reform, not just the mandates of the on street management. And and really, I wanted to bring this organizing capacity. So we agreed you need three, you need four people to start a nonprofit organization. And so Mike and Jane and Lindsay were the. Tony Jordan (17:44.073) three original board members and it took a couple months to get the certifications and then set up a website. And then, you know, we went public with it in March and started bringing more people on March, 2020. I mean, yeah. Kevin K (17:57.08) That's terrific. That's terrific. So obviously, one of the big pushes has been in the parking reform world has been to remove or reduce minimum parking mandates. As you've talked about these things, what are the arguments that you are using or you see other people using that are most successful in sort of moving the needle related to that issue? Tony Jordan (18:23.305) I think the problem we've had is largely just lack of information, low information about what these mandates are, what we're talking about. So what are we talking about? We're talking about rules from the seventies, sixties, fifties that are anachronistic and completely based on nothing that are these like, Sorry, hold on. Just one second. Kevin K (18:57.048) No problem. Tony Jordan (19:12.297) I might need to take a redo on that section in one second. Kevin K (19:14.552) No, it's fine. Go ahead. Kevin K (19:24.504) All right, so talk about the most effective arguments. Tony Jordan (19:25.481) Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what we're talking about are these anachronistic rules that are based on nonsense from the 70s. But, yes, and we're talking about just getting rid of these mandates and not eliminating existing parking, you know, generally not severely restricting the ability of people to build parking in their new developments or with their businesses. But I think the other key is really showing people like, how much parking costs, how much space it takes up, what are the other impacts on things they care about, fiscal viability of their cities, the tax -based stuff, water runoff management or urban flooding and pollution, urban heat effects, just walkability, all these things come back to these rules. And what I found really effective lately is to just, you present that information, but in the context of, you know, I'll go look at, for example, bowling alleys. I'll draw a circle of a hundred miles around a city and find examples of bowling alley parking requirements, which are hilarious in themselves because it kind of shows you when they were written. And you'll find one per lane, two per lane, three per lane, four per lane, five per lane, six per lane, seven per lane, right? In just like an area around. And so it's like, what could be the difference between a bowler in this city? where they require two per lane and this one was seven or funeral homes. Like you'll, I, it's not uncommon to see one city require one parking space for 50 square feet, which is a pretty high requirement. You're talking the parking lot is going to need to be six to eight times bigger than the funeral home. And then another place will, will require only one per 500. So that's like a, you know, or, you know, like that's a pretty large difference. You know, 10, we'll find 10 to 12 times difference in. a city that's just 50 miles from another city. And I think that when people see that, that contrast, it really undermines the faith in like, why do these numbers exist? And their first reaction is, well, maybe we can just fix them. And you're like, no, like you can't, like just X them out and get working on the real work that it takes to repair your city, right? The parking mandates is just like... Tony Jordan (21:48.713) That's just clearing a hurdle. It doesn't actually change anything. That requires a developer -friendly zoning code, or it requires transportation management on the ground. But you're never going to get anywhere if these rules exist. Kevin K (22:06.072) Yeah, I was thinking about, and I think we may have talked briefly about this, but obviously, you know, Shoop's book, The High Cost of Free Parking is kind of like the gold standard for the field. It's a really, it's an incredible book. But I remember years before that, he wrote this little magazine article called Roughly Right or Precisely Wrong, which was maybe like three or four pages. But just that alone was such a devastating takedown of the stupidity of most minimum parking requirements and where they come from. And it's always wild to me that people think that those requirements are actually based in something real. Tony Jordan (22:48.169) Yeah, I mean, I have a slide that's called roughly right, precisely wrong based on that same concept. And it highlights this poor little town in Georgia, Woodbury, Georgia, that is really very small. And they have so many land uses with parking requirements and they have like, they're specific to two significant figures for things like, you know, hospital employees, like 1 .26 or 1 .72 for students. And then this place has two requirements. Like they have a separate land use requirement for parking for a hella port and a hella stop. Two, like it's different. Hell if I know what the difference is, right? And it's like, I like you point these out or North Carolina, when we went to CNU last year, we were looking at North Carolina cities because it was in, you know, it was in Charlotte. And there's all these parking requirements in cities in North Carolina for drive -in movie theaters. Like, and they literally are like, Kevin K (23:23.992) What is that? What the hell is that? Tony Jordan (23:46.569) one per speaker box. So it's like you're like telling a drive -in movie theater, which once again, no one's building them, that they have to have a parking space for every park. Like what is going on? One of my favorites is in Dallas, there is a parking requirement for sewage treatment plants. And it's one parking space per million gallons of capacity at the sewage treatment facility, which, and if you look at, Kevin K (24:12.264) my god. Tony Jordan (24:14.409) There's a sewage treatment facility. If you look at it on Google, it has this gigantic parking lot and there's like 20 cars in it because it's like it has like 300 million gallon capacity. So the parking lot is and this is the city telling it's who builds a sewage treatment plant, right? Like the city. But a water treatment plant in Dallas, like for drinking water, only requires two parking spaces. And you look at the you look at a satellite picture of the parking of the water treatment plant and there's like 20 spaces they didn't just build two. They built what they needed. Right. And so like this is really it's like. Kevin K (24:27.032) Yeah, no kidding. Tony Jordan (24:44.009) why are cities even saddling themselves with these requirements? It's insanity, right? Like something really went wrong in, you know, what in the urban planning profession and it just is kind of, we're trying to stop the bleeding and, you know, yeah. Kevin K (25:02.616) Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just hilarious, some of this stuff. When you detach yourself from it and you're just like, it's so, some of it's just so utterly ridiculous. But I think there's something you said that was really important there, which is like, you know, you're really, you're trying to just go about the business of like clearing a hurdle. So like you're not trying to say this is going to solve every problem. But what this is doing, you're trying to remove an impediment to. especially to more like walkable urban style development that really prevents a lot of good things from happening in cities all over the country. Tony Jordan (25:40.649) Right. I mean, it's it. I use an analogy sometimes like if you want to grow a garden, the garden in this case being like a walkable community, you can't go throw, you know, vegetable seeds in your lawn and expect it to work. You've got to remove the rocks and the weeds in the grass first. That's getting that's your parking mandate removal is just prepping the zone. You still have to do all the other stuff. You have to, you know, create the zoning code and you have to. manage on street parking so that it doesn't create spillover or whatever. So it's really a first step. The other great thing is that it's not just housing, right? Like this is a policy, one of the reasons I work on it. I can hardly find a better way to spend my time than one policy area that works on housing, transportation and climate, right? Like it's a piece of, if you have a climate action plan, it's not gonna work. with parking mandates. If you have a transportation plan to build more transit or get people to use other modes, it's not going to work if you have parking mandates. If you have a housing plan, it's not going to work if you have parking mandates. So this one thing, it doesn't fix everything, but it unlocks and makes your other plans actually gives them a fighting chance at success. Kevin K (26:58.2) So then how do you respond to, I mean, I can probably, I'm probably going to test like some of the arguments that people, that I hear all the time and I'm sure you hear them all the time too. but I'm just curious and it's good for the audience to kind of hear how you think about these things. But you know, one thing that I certainly hear a lot is, well, you can eliminate that, but people, people are still going to drive. So what's the point? You know, we live in a big city in a big region that's spread out and people, people drive. That's what they do. So, you know, that, and that seems to me like that's a common. objection that people have to removing some of those standards. Tony Jordan (27:31.561) Right, well, I mean, it's kind of ironic because your arguments are either it's not going to have an impact or it's going to be a disaster and it can't be both at the same time, right? So I think that's true. And to that I say, yes, the world is currently, most of our country is built for people who want to drive. And so on one hand, that should be comforting to the person who's worried about. I've got kids and I don't want to take them on the bus or, you know, my grandma likes to shop at this Walmart. Like the Walmart's still going to be there unless they just close it and build a bigger Walmart farther away, right? Like, I mean, they're still going to, these places still exist that people will drive to. Your house still has a parking space. So no one's asking you to change. We know that there's intense demand for a different way to live. That's why walkable communities are very expensive because... people want, there's not enough of them and people want to live in them. So I think like this just, it makes it possible to build these places. And then we'll see whether it's just consumer preference shows that, you know, people see these places and they want to move into them and we can build more of them or retrofit more of our communities to be like this way. Or frankly, there's a distinct possibility that we will be forced to make some decisions about not driving as much, you know, based on, you know, climate or just geometry issues of traffic. So like one way or the other, I think we have to come up with a solution. And this is, you know, it's just stop digging. First, the first thing is stop digging. And these parking mandates are just requiring everyone to dig the hole a little bit deeper every time they start a business or build a building. And, you know, so that's, I think that's one argument is, you know, well, if the demand is not there, then what do we have to lose by trying, you know, like these. the rules are just in the way of even trying to provide that thing that people seem to want. Kevin K (29:32.696) So another thing that I hear a lot, especially this is much more so like in urban communities, this is where these issues really come up more often anyway. You don't really find a ton of this discussion in a lot of our suburban communities. But I mean, there's some of that, but not a lot. But like in the parts of town where I live in the more urban part of Kansas City, one of the really common objections, let's say there's a large new apartment proposal or there's a commercial. There's a business that wants to go in and if they want to have no parking or very little parking, one of the objections as well, people are still going to drive and all they're going to do is they're just going to park up all the streets in front of my house in the neighborhood nearby. And they're just going to spill over into that. So you're really just making my life more miserable by taking parking away from our streets. Tony Jordan (30:25.449) Mm hmm. Yes. This is the spillover issue can be real, right? I mean, obviously, if you have successful businesses that have parking and they attract more people, since we know these numbers are incorrect, right? There's nothing that says a restaurant, the minimum ratio is actually providing enough parking for the customers or not. Right. I mean, so there's spillover anyway. But, you know, so there's one I would say. The. The solution to that is cities need to mind their own business when it comes to parking. They own the curb. The community owns the curb. It's a public asset or liability, depending on how you look at it. And, and, you know, if sure, if it's free or underpriced, then people will take advantage of that. So manager, you know, the city also knows when permits are coming in for new businesses or for new buildings and should be able to pretty readily anticipate that demand might increase in an area. and create a permit district or a meter district or some other management, which are great because they actually can return revenue to the community to help, you know, make things more walkable with more lighting or crosswalks and help people actually get to these places in other ways. I think that it's also what this gets to me really interesting is just like, I'm often asked like who opposes these reforms and why, and, and it's incumbents, right? Like incumbents, people who, already are using the business that doesn't have enough parking supposedly, right? Like if, hey, you want these ratios because supposedly they provide enough parking. So if you support them, provide the ratio for your own business, and then you don't have a problem. But no, you're using the on -street parking. You're using the asset, and you're worried that another business is going to come in and attract more customers than you do. That's a business issue. Or you know, you... want to park on the street, you know, or you're develop, you know, you're using the asset already that exists, you're using this thing. And so you want to moat. I think one of the things people think developers fund this work. and I wish they did, but the fact is, I don't think current, the developers that are making a lot of money or building a lot of projects, they usually are, they've evolved to exist in the ecosystem that includes parking. Tony Jordan (32:44.265) Do they really necessarily want someone else coming in that's got a more nimble business model that's going to compete with their buildings? I don't know. I think that's one of the reasons why some of this has taken longer is like, you know, you're competing with a status quo and everyone who exists, they've evolved to operate in status quo. And this is a disruptive change potentially. This could change, you know, how your main street works. And so I think there's a natural pushback there, but the... You know, the solutions are easy. We know how to manage parking. So like, if that's really your concern is just that there might be congestion on the curb. Well, we've got a solution for that, right? It's, yeah. Kevin K (33:27.96) Yeah, it's funny because I think about like my own neighborhood, which was largely built in the first two decades of the 20th century. And so it has that sort of a neighborhood main street and that there's a portion of the main street that is built with sort of classic American early 20th century buildings, you know, right up to the sidewalk, very popular. numbers of restaurants and everything else. And it's a really popular little area. And it's been popular for years and years. But on that same exact street, like if you wanted to build a new restaurant, the zoning would require a minimum of 10 spaces per thousand square feet, which would make it completely impossible to actually build what's there today. And there's this really funny disconnect that. we've talked about forever, which is we have these places that people obviously really love for very human reasons. It's great to be in a place where you can just like walk around and see other people and you can sit at a table and just enjoy the street life and activity. And so these places are extremely popular in most places where they exist, yet our rules and regulations don't allow you to build it again. Tony Jordan (34:52.137) Right. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's true. I show a picture of, you know, like of Main Street. I have a slide where I show a picture of Main Street and then just a shopping center. And like you can't this isn't I am not the first person to do this, but you count up the number of businesses in there and they're roughly the same number of businesses in a big shopping center as opposed to like one block of a Main Street. Of course, the bigger businesses are bigger, but partly that's because they have to they have to support because we don't allow. We don't allow localized commerce either. I mean, that's a whole big part is there's a lot of the talk is around residential parking requirements and allowing more infill housing, but we need a lot more infill commercial too, right? I mean, my friend Neil Heller, you know, with his accessory commercial units, like, why don't we allow these, like, if you think about trip reduction, cities will spend so much money to try and get someone to take the bus to go get their hair done, where if you allow someone to open a hair, you know, just. Kevin K (35:35.64) Yeah, yeah. Tony Jordan (35:50.857) do hair in their basement or in their garage, you know, legally or open a little storefront, the person might just walk or ride a bike to that. You're reducing the trip for free. Kevin K (36:01.528) it out. So what is what's going on then? One of the things that you all do is you track what's happening nationally in terms of parking reform state by state. What are some of the most encouraging things that are happening across the country that you're seeing? Tony Jordan (36:16.041) Well, for one, I think we're just seeing more and more cities get rid of their parking mandates entirely or do large scale reforms. This is obviously, you know, just a drop in the bucket. Municipal, you know, we've got I think I was just looking at it yesterday and we're right around. There's like 70 or 71 cities that we know of in the United States that have gotten rid of their parking mandates citywide for all uses. Most recently, Tualatin, Oregon, I think was the most recent. when we've added to the list. So that's great because it shows other places that they can do it. It shows that the sky's not falling, there's momentum behind this, these cities are, you know, someone will say, well, we have, I was in La Crosse, I was talking to people in La Crosse, they said, well, we have snow. I said, well, you can talk to the people in Duluth or the people in Anchorage. They also have snow. You know, so there's, we're getting more and more comps. We finally just got a city in the center of the country in Colorado, like, you know, Longmont, Colorado just did it, so it's. Kevin K (37:13.08) Okay, good. Tony Jordan (37:13.705) It's great to see that momentum, because I think it emboldens people. And then that starts to trickle up into the statewide and regional planning areas where we're seeing the conversation start in, you know, Minnesota. They had people over parking act, which proposed to eliminate mandates statewide. Oregon has pretty strong reforms that are requiring. That's why we have so many cities with no parking mandates, because the state's kind of making requiring cities to make a choice between getting rid of their mandates or managing their off street parking. So I think that the encouraging thing is that the conversation is moving forward. The solutions are much less incremental at this point. There's a recognition that like we don't have time to mess around, you know, checking every couple of years. It takes so long to build things is one thing. It's like, you know, I tell people, it's like, you know, you're not going to see the impact of this for years. We don't have time to wait. So that's, I think that just the general awareness, all of these reforms then. create buzz or opportunity for buzz. And so just, you know, every time someone hears about this, there's an opportunity for another Tony Jordan to get hooked on the topic and get active in their local community. So like, you know, you hear about the city next door and maybe you're going to go down to planning commission next and start banging the drum around parking reform. Kevin K (38:35.672) What are some of the larger cities that have done dramatic reform? Tony Jordan (38:40.201) The largest in the US is Austin, which did it last year. In North America, Mexico City has no mandates. Toronto, Edmonton, Montreal is about to do so. San Francisco, in the United States, you got San Francisco. I'm trying to think of who's on the, St. Paul in Minneapolis. San Jose was, is a, is a large city that's done it. Portland has no parking mandates and Portland, because of our statewide rules, many of our suburbs are also starting to have no mandates. So we're starting to build a metro area that we'll have, which I think will be very useful to see how that interplays. Cause that's one thing, you know, Dallas could get rid of the parking mandates tomorrow, but you know, the Dallas Fort Worth metro area is such, or Los Angeles, you know, there's so many other cities that are requiring it and cars don't. car demand doesn't stop at the city border, right? So there's a bit of where everyone kind of needs to make a commitment together, you know, to not like, you can get rid of parking mandates in your downtown, but if all of your surrounding community is car dependent, it's going to be very hard to redevelop parking lots in your downtown because the demand is just going to be there. So I think like, you know, we're starting to, these larger areas will, will, will be helpful, but I, but it's also great to have smaller cities get rid of mandates too, because. That's the majority of cities in the United States are smaller places that aren't megopolises. Kevin K (40:13.56) Are you able to track like winds that come from the policy change at all, like in terms of maybe development activity, other stuff that would have happened, would not have happened without the reform? Tony Jordan (40:26.161) Starting to, so some of our partners like Sightline, Katie Gould at Sightline who covers parking the best. She covers this in the Northwest and in some other places. We just actually are, we have a blog post that's about to come out tomorrow based on a Twitter thread where someone was highlighting changes in Anchorage. One of the issue here is, you know, many of these, I mean, when we talk about 70 cities, There were about 15 cities at the end of 2020 in the United States, maybe 13, maybe it's 13, somewhere, you know, not many more than 10 that had gotten rid of their mandates citywide. So we've, you know, had about 55 cities do this reform just in the last four years. Seeing what happens, I mean, there are, Katie Gould has shown some great examples of, you know, projects that, you know, immediately when the reform has gone in. will go in and submit a redesign that doesn't punch a hole through the middle of the building to access the parking lot or adds a certain number of apartments or homes. There was great examples out of Fayetteville, right? When Fayetteville was an early adopter of no commercial mandates, they need to catch up on the residential side. But, you know, where buildings were getting reused all of a sudden that had been vacant for many years. So that's going to be, we're trying to track that. We're a small and growing organization and so capacity to do that. But, Those stories are the critical ones, I think, to show people the benefit of doing this. Kevin K (42:02.584) What about anecdotally from Portland, which you're most familiar with, where you didn't have mandates and you did have mandates and then you went back to not having mandates? Have you seen some good wins there? Tony Jordan (42:13.897) Well, I mean, in a way, the best example from Portland is in the opposite direction, right? We had, as I mentioned, buildings going up on this division street that had 30, 40, 50 apartments. They were very numbers, right? You look at the permits, the number of apartments being built, and they were all over the place between 30 and 80, right? What we did in Portland was we instituted a When they took a step back, they said, okay, you can build up to 30 units with no parking. But if you build 31, you have to have a 0 .2 parking ratio, one for every five apartments, which is relatively low, but it was retroactive to the whole building. So you had no parking to 30 units. And then the 31st apartment, you had to have six parking spaces on site. And what did we see? No one's gonna study on this, but I looked back, you know, you saw a haircut. All of a sudden, a bunch of apartments had exactly. 30 units. I think this marginal impact, it's harder to quantify, but I think honestly, the biggest thing is if you think of every apartment that's been built in the United States over the last 70 years, and you know, they might still, even if you say they built the exact same amount of parking that exists right now, if developers were allowed to just max out what was practical apartment -wise on that site with that same amount of parking, we'd have 10, 20, you know, five to 20 new apartments. in every apartment building in the United States. We would have no housing crisis if we had just let that happen, even with parking being built. So I think those marginal increases where you're just adding five or 10 apartments in a building that would have had a lower number because they couldn't meet the parking requirement, that's kind of the invisible benefit, I think, that is harder to quantify but is already, I'm sure, taking place, right? Cities with no mandates. They still build with parking, but they build a bit more housing. And that's, you know, that's important, you know, is to build. And then over time, maybe they start building a lot more housing and a lot less parking. But initially right away, you know, you might just add two or three more units because you can, or you might add bedrooms on the units because a lot of times the parking requirements are based on bedrooms. So you're going to build studios because they have a lower parking requirement. You know, I mean, I know there's many factors to layouts, but that's one of them sometimes. Kevin K (44:41.752) Yeah, it seems like it's probably a classic like hockey stick, you know, adjustment curve where it'd be really slow and minimal for a number of years potentially, or just kind of modest. But then there comes a point where there's an inflection and other things, other things that don't really work well right now, you know, like better public transit, better bike, but just better alternative transportation all of a sudden starts to work more. And, and you probably get more things that are within a walking distance that you didn't have before. What do you say to people who say, well, you know, the parking requirements really don't matter because the investors, the lenders are going to require a certain amount anyway. And that's really where the stumbling block is. What do you, what do you say to that argument? Tony Jordan (45:28.585) I mean, I think if we're talking about apartments with zero parking, sure. I mean, I think that's, you know, it took, it took 10 years for Portland to find a developer who was willing to build a large, a mid -size apartment building with no parking. Once they did and it rented, then the investors were very happy to do it. So some of it is just the market's not proven. This is what I mentioned before, the inertia of, of just these people have business models. They have relationships with bankers, they have funding streams, people understand the product and so they know what to invest in. You're trying to change that. To build an apartment building with much less parking requires not just the developer but brokers. There's a lot of players that have to align. So in a way, yes. Now the fact is that we can't even start working on fixing those other problems that the parking mandate still exists. So like, if you know, like it's absolutely worth it. They're just overhead on your city too. I mean, like they just cause city staff spend time on this that they could be spending approving other permits. So like get rid of them and you know, if nothing changes, then nothing changed. But if we are actually then can, can be successful in, you know, I think a lot of the work like incremental development Alliance or other people who are, you know, trying to, you know, there's a whole set of education and building capacity for building these kinds, remembering how to build these kinds of communities. And so that's going to take a little while to build that capacity. But if we haven't prepped the garden, once again, that can't take root. That can't happen. Kevin K (47:12.792) You know, it's always so funny also when I think about like the politics of some of these things and the politics of this issue. I mean, you're talking about something which is essentially removing a requirement from your local government, which is typically thought of as like a conservative political approach. And yet almost all the reform happening is in blue states and blue cities, which is just kind of bizarre. I always think about it, it shows how upside down a lot of people's thinking is in regards to these issues. So, I mean, that being said, obviously, you know, a lot of the places you've mentioned, you know, are pretty dyed in the wool blue places politically. What are you seeing as any kind of positive trend in more like conservative or red states as well? Tony Jordan (48:08.553) It surely is confusing, right? Why some people would support these regulations. I think there's a bit of just team opposition that goes into this. Whoever proposes the policy first might receive opposition. Yeah, I think some of the reason why these reforms took root first in... Kevin K (48:23.832) Yeah, sure. Kevin K (48:28.216) I've got to be against it. They're my enemy. I've got to be against it no matter what. Tony Jordan (48:38.761) in liberal, more liberal or blue places was, well, that happens to be where the housing crisis hit first. There also are, there are very good reasons for every one of every political stripe to support parking mandates, but there may be more reasons if you are politically, if you're, you know, liberally aligned, you might believe, you know, you might be more concerned about climate change, right? And you might be more concerned about transit access. So those issues tack on to the, you know, you know, general market problem. and they give you a little more reason. There's more coalition members. I think, you know, now that said, Anchorage is an example where, you know, it was a mixed city council that had broad political support from both conservatives and liberals. You know, there are a lot of Midwest cities that are doing this that are not necessarily very liberal. I think it's just the messaging is taking a little... it's a little harder, you know, because of just coding to break through, but this should definitely be an issue that we can win on across the political spectrum. I think it's just, it has to be intentional and continue that education around what we're actually talking about here. And to some degree it finds out if people are really for real about what they say about, you know, markets or business, you know, activity. I... Kevin K (50:01.4) Yeah. Tony Jordan (50:06.121) If you're in chamber of commerce or something, I had a woman complained to me. She came up to me in Chuck Morrone in Minneapolis and St. Paul and said, you know, I'm from the such and such Avenue business association. I said, and she was opposing the bill in, in, in Minnesota. And I said, do you, does your association just, it only supports existing businesses, right? Like you don't care about entrepreneurship. Do you? And, and, you know, she was like, well, of course, but I was like, no, of course you wouldn't. I will say one group that is on the. like kind of more conservative side of the spectrum. You know, some like I went to a conference in Arizona, a one day symposium that was about like doing business in America. And it was from like kind of like a, you know, economic, you know, libertarian side. And some of those folks really understand the parking mandates. Like they get that this and, and the like Institute for Justice is like they work not only on parking mandates, but just other barriers to people being economically free, like, you know, licensure requirements for hair braiding and things. It's one of those things that kind of fits into this, you know, once you see what this is being used for, which is often manipulation, right? Cities want to keep the parking mandates in place so they can sometimes just have more control over what businesses get to open or where they get to open. So. Yeah, exactly. And no one wants to give up their power, right? Like, that's one of the reasons it exists is because. Kevin K (51:26.04) Yeah, or leverage for negotiations. Tony Jordan (51:34.377) Yeah, people use them to decide where a restaurant can go as opposed to, it's not really about parking, right? Because they'll grant the variance somewhere else. They just don't want to have the bar next to where they like to hang out. Kevin K (51:50.072) Well, I mean, I do notice that on your map, Missouri and Kansas are not represented. So I hope that at some point we are within the next couple of years, we're working on some stuff to try to get us there locally. But yeah, it's a big hole. You're right. That's right. Branson eliminated theirs. Branson, interestingly enough, also has no building code. Or they were like, Missouri was one of the few states. Tony Jordan (51:59.817) What? Branson, Branson's got no mandates, right? Kevin K (52:18.712) God, my memory is going to fail me now because this has been a few years since I've thought about this issue. But for a long time, they were one of a handful of states that had no statewide building code adopted. And so cities and counties had to actually opt in to adopt one. And Branson did not have one for forever for a long time. So it's pretty interesting. Tony Jordan (52:28.329) huh. Tony Jordan (52:40.297) I think we're going to see a lot more activity. There's a lot of cities too. I know this isn't, you know, there's cities that have like Norman, Oklahoma is not on the map as a red dot because they maintain parking mandates for frat houses and some other housing alignments. So we're, we're pretty strict about who gets to be on the, on the dot. And, but there are a lot of places that are, that have done significant reforms. Hopefully we can tell more of those stories and highlight that. We just hired a policy director, Dan O 'Hara guess from, from strong towns. Kevin K (52:56.888) Okay. All right. Kevin K (53:08.312) Yeah, yeah. Tony Jordan (53:10.345) And we have an intern working this summer on kind of helping us to get more of an idea of where we can have a bigger impact in providing education and resources to the people on the ground. So I'm very excited about the potential for, you know, to see these. Right now reforms happen. Sometimes we know, like we knew Birmingham was going to, was working on getting rid of their mandates, but then other cities pop up where we haven't even had any contact. They might use our product, our maps or our resources, but. I wanna know, I wanna really, like I wanna know where the heat is coming from next so we can really, you know, hype it up and celebrate it. Kevin K (53:47.224) Yeah, I know. It's going to create like an impossible test for you since there's so many municipalities around the country. But there are those like, you know, the one I'm in, in Kansas City, Missouri, we have actually had some pretty good, I would say incremental reform at the city government level. And especially in Oregon, so it was passed last year that really is very helpful for infill residential development, sort of missing middle scale that basically just waived all parking requirements for that, which was nice. But we still have pretty onerous stuff in other parts of the city or other parts of the code. So it's very much piecemeal. Tony Jordan (54:27.561) Yeah, I think, I mean, obviously there's statewide reform progress and I know people are mixed, you know, that's tough because the cities want their local control. I think like, obviously if we're going to really deal with this problem, you know, that's probably necessary in a lot of places. It helps certainly to have a number of cities though, get rid of your mandates initially so they can be examples. And even I think anything that requires cities, I like it like if you can just get a city to open up and. and actually examine what these are and reckon with it. Shoop says one of the best pieces of advice he has to like someone who wants to get their city to get rid of mandates is take that paper, the pseudoscience of parking reform and, or pseudoscience of parking mandates, sorry, whoops. And, and give it to, you know, have a, have a planning commissioner, a city council person direct the staff to read this paper and prepare a memo as to why it's correct or wrong, right? Like, Kevin K (55:19.896) Hmm. Tony Jordan (55:20.393) I like it until like you go in your garage and you open up an old cooler and sometimes there's something really bad that you forgot in there. These mandates are like a fish that someone left in a cooler for 60 years, right? Like it's bad. You open it up and if you can force people to actually defend it, like I think that's what we need to do is say, okay, you don't want to get rid of these mandates, then it's on you to tell me why that they are correct. And so if we can shine some light on it, I think we'll start to see, you know, cities. in other communities get rid of them more readily because, you know, no one's going to want to step up and defend them anymore. Kevin K (55:59.928) It's pretty hard to defend. So when I think about Shoup and the work that he's done, especially if I go back to Pasadena, which is one of his favorite examples he loves to use in downtown Pasadena, I think about as much about parking management as anything and sort of balancing the on -street and off -street needs and figuring out the economics of it so it actually makes sense. How much of the parking management side do you all get into or track as part of your work? Tony Jordan (56:35.241) Well, one of our first things we ever put together was a or one of the first products we released that we actually are very proud of is a guidebook on parking benefit districts. It's a handbook for activists, right? And so this was written by one of our first interns, Evan Kimler. And it's like, I felt there was a need to. You have parking in the city, you have high cost free parking, you have, you know, various papers, but they're not. Kevin K (56:45.432) Okay. Tony Jordan (57:03.113) necessarily accessible or activism oriented. So we do promote parking. Parking benefit districts are a great idea. It's there's not it's such a synergistic thing. You know, you charge for parking, which would which helps to manage the demand and then you reinvest, which helps drive the demand lower. And then ideally, some point in the future, you don't have much more revenue because no one's parking, but you don't need it because you spent the money on making it more walkable. Great. We promote that. I talk about parking management every time I give a lecture. It's harder to track. We're starting to do this. We were just talking with some folks at IPMI, like, where are the data sets for this? How do we know? And so trying to figure out where there's good examples of data -driven parking management and good examples of permits. It's also a problem, potentially a problem. A lot of states have rules that prohibit cities from you know, actively manage their curb, maybe in a best practice. Like they don't allow them to, you know, charge parking for people with disability placards, which is leads to a lot of placard abuse and makes streets unavailable for people. Or they limit them from using demand -based pricing for permits. The permits can only be cost recovery, or they limit what they can spend money on, you know, from parking. Like you maybe you can only spend it on. parking garages, or maybe you can only spend it on, I mean, transit's not a bad thing, but San Francisco, I think, spends a lot of its net revenue from SF Park on transit. That's great, but there's also other things that maybe could be more impactful at a local level. So I think that's one case where I think we need to find out what the lay of the land is and then really start to highlight these examples. It's a harder political press because... Charging for things is not popular. But I think the other thing is that I think cities a lot of times don't go far enough. So they charge you, but you're not getting a value, right? If you paid a park and you still can't find a place to park, you're not happy. If you paid a park and you had a good experience, you know, that you're not, of course, I don't want to pay for anything in my life. I don't want to pay for a cup of coffee, but if I pay for one and it's bad, I'm upset. If I didn't pay for one and it's bad, you know. Tony Jordan (59:27.305) I'm not as much. So I think like once you're charging, go all the way and charge enough that there's an open space on every block, right? Like Shoop says, you know, maybe 85 % or whatever it is so that someone driving down the street can find a space, even if they have to pay for it. Like we're willing to pay for things as American consumers. We do it all the time. Kevin K (59:46.168) Yeah. So it does seem to me like this kind of work is the sort of work that developers and investors and lenders would want to support. But you say you're not really seeing much of that at this stage? Tony Jordan (59:59.945) Yeah, I think that, I mean, the funding in general for this is tough because we're a national organization. A lot of people are locally focused, a lot of developers, right? They're locally focused. So they want to see, like they're more concerned about what's going on in their community. And if they either, you know, if they have parking mandates, you know, like we can't promise we're not an organization that comes in and drops people out of a helicopter to like, you know, to work on something. We're helping to build just a national environment and movement to make these policies happen better. So, and I think once again, the developers that make a lot of money right now make it in the current regulatory environment, right? Like that's the end the ones. So we need the small scale developers as they start to, or the incremental or the ones that get it, as they start to maybe prove this point, maybe we'll see some people paying it forward. Kevin K (01:00:45.848) Do you know? Tony Jordan (01:00:58.377) you know, on what it is. But I recognize like, you know, yeah, the people who get it, they're just trying to get their, they can't build the projects that will make them the money because they're, you know, they're not legal yet. Kevin K (01:00:59.256) Yeah. Yeah. Kevin K (01:01:12.216) Yeah, that is an interesting twist. It probably is more of like the smaller and mid -sized developers who stand to benefit the most from parking reform. The large ones are going to negotiate their projects no matter what anyway. It's a different animal. But the smaller and mid -sized ones are less likely to have the kind of extra cash sitting around to support these efforts. Tony Jordan (01:01:23.881) Right. Tony Jordan (01:01:33.769) Right. I mean, and I'm not saying that the bigger developers, they don't fight the reforms at least generally. They're just not, they're not at contrary. I think this is, we find this across the whole housing zoning reform spectrum. You know, everyone thinks that it's developer, you know, developers financing this and it's, it's not, it's, I mean, mostly it's not even finance. Most of this work is done by people who care passionately about the place where they live or the, there's the, the future of, you know, for their children. And they're driven by that passion. And we're just all trying, you know, the more we can fund these endeavors, they have a ability to have a larger capacity because not everyone can, you know, can spend their time on these things without being paid. So I think, you know, I think the awareness is getting there, you know, and eventually, you know, I think we'll start to see more resources. put towards this, you know, some of it is just similar to when it took a lot of people. People wanted to see a building work in Portland before they would build more without parking. People want to see this as a viable organizing area. They want to see the successes coming and then, you know, then the, then they'll invest in it. Right. You kind of kind of prove, prove the point first on it when you're doing something a different way. Kevin K (01:02:58.2) Yeah. Well, Tony, this has been great. I really appreciate the conversation. Before we wrap up, I have to know, so how many Don Schupe posters or bobbleheads do you have? Tony Jordan (01:03:10.825) Those things don't really exist, unfortunately. I don't have nearly the collection of parking paraphernalia as I'd like. I've got an Andy Singer cartoon, you know, No Exit, that's about parking that I got. I have a weird poster on my wall here that's of a mural someone did on a garage door in Seattle. It's Jesus. Kevin K (01:03:14.264) I'm out. Tony Jordan (01:03:36.521) trying to find a parking space because there's a church across the street from this person's house and the people would park in their driveway. So they made this mural.

Type 40 • A Doctor Who Podcast Episode 146: DWAS Reimagined with Tony Jordan Times are changing for The Doctor Who Appreciation Society! Perhaps the most monumental changes in the near 5 decades of this, the largest global fan club for dedicated followers of our favourite TV series. Whether you're a member, a lapsed member or a never-have-been a member? There's everything you could ever want to know about this timely reinvention of DWAS on the latest edition of Type 40: A Doctor Who Podcast. DWAS Co-ordinator Tony Jordan joins regular hosts Simon, Sarah and Dan to explain the vision of the future that's being prepared for, as revealed earlier this week in a Special Announcement. Encompassing not just what it means to belong to the society itself, but also its long-standing magazine “Celestial Toyroom” among other things. It's a bold plan and Tony makes for entertaining and authoritative company. Stream or download the conversation HERE: Find Type 40 • A Doctor Who Podcast feed here at: type40.podbean.com Listen to Type 40 on: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Play, iHeart Radio,           Tune In and the Podbean App. Or as part of FPNet Master Feed @Fpnet.podbean.com The Doctor Who Appreciation Society can be found at their website here: http://www.dwasonline.co.uk/ Dan on X and Instagram @The_spacebook Sarah on X and Instagram @StarryEyedWho Simon on Facebook at Doctor Who: The Whonatics If you would like to contact us directly you can: Email: type40doctorwho@outlook.com Twitter: @type40doctorwho Instagram: @type40doctorwho Facebook: Type 40 • A Doctor Who Fan Page Join the Facebook group Type 40 • A Doctor Who Fan Group: http://bit.ly/type40_fbgroup Subscribe to the Type 40 Doctor Who YouTube channel! For extended versions, our weekly livestream magazine show and exclusive Type 40 content here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh8T5-mFYWblZo6lnakCSCw TeePublic Store: Help support the Fandom Podcast Network and wear some of their fantastic original designs and logos on t-shirts, mugs, hats and more from Tee Public Go to: https://www.teepublic.com/user/fandompodcastnetwork or just search Fandom Podcast Network to find our storefront. Please listen to our other formidable podcasts on the Fandom Podcast Network: Master Feed: https://fpnet.podbean.com/

Reinventing Parking is the official podcast of the Parking Reform Network! Why not join? This edition of Reinventing Parking was prompted by a recent bonus episode of the War on Cars podcast which featured listener origin stories. Parking Reform Network President, Tony Jordan, suggested I try something similar here. I sent out an appeal to PRN members and quickly received messages from the diverse set of people you will hear from here. I hope you enjoy them. You can read a lightly edited transcript here. 

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This week's episode of the Strong Towns Podcast is all about parking reform, and here to talk with host Chuck Marohn on the matter are Tony Jordan and Chris Meyer. Jordan is the president of the Parking Reform Network, a bottom-up nonprofit that's working to educate the public about the impact of parking policy on climate change, equity, housing, and traffic. Meyer is the legislative assistant to Senator Omar Fateh, who was crucial in introducing a bill—the first of its kind in the nation—to eliminate parking mandates statewide in Minnesota. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Parking Reform Network (website). Chris Meyer (Twitter/X). Tony Jordan (LinkedIn). Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X).

DESCRIPTIONTony Jordan, President of the Parking Reform Network, discusses parking reform.SPONSORSThis episode is brought to you by PAVE Mobility. PAVE Mobility is the leader in automated parking enforcement. PAVE installs fixed LPR cameras at no charge to you so PAVE can capture parkers who did not make a payment and send them a notice in the mail. Learn why so many asset owners and operators are switching over to PAVE at pavemobility.com or email me at isaiah.mouw@pavemobility.com”This episode is brought to you by Parker Technology, the customer experience solution of choice in the parking industry. Parker's solution puts a virtual ambassador in every lane, to help parking guests pay and get on their way in under a minute. Parker helps capture revenue, provides better customer service, enables your staff to focus on other on-site tasks, and keeps traffic moving, according to your business rules. With the Parker solution, you'll also enjoy access to real-time call data and recordings. Learn more at helpmeparker.com/parkingpodcast.This episode is brought to you by the International Parking & Mobility Institute, the world's largest association of professionals in parking, transportation, and mobility. Learn more at parking-mobility.org.This episode is brought to you by RISETEK. RISETEK's VERGE Data Analytics and Reporting Platform delivers a powerful management solution with integrations to your existing technologies. Learn why the largest cities in America such as New York City are using RISETEK to solve their parking and transportation challenges at risetekglobal.com/parkingpodcast.This episode is brought to you by TEZ Technology. Since 1993, TEZ has developed innovative, text-based mobile solutions designed to streamline operations, increase efficiency, and improve overall customer experiences. My favorite is the ability to pay for parking without having to download an app. TEZ solutions include SMS Valet, Text2Park, Permit2Park, and much more. Every organization should add TEZ to their payment options arsenal. Learn more about TEZ at teztechnology.com.WEBSITES AND RESOURCEShttps://parkingreform.org/https://pavemobility.com/https://www.helpmeparker.com/parkingpodcast/https://www.parkingcast.com/https://www.parking-mobility.org/https://tezhq.comrisetekglobal.com/parkingpodcastMERCHCheck out some of our awesome parking themed t-shirts and other merch at parkingcast.com/merch.MUSEUMCheck out some of our artifacts from the world's first parking museum at parkingcast.com/museum.SURVEYCould you give us 2 minutes of your time? We would be so grateful if you could fill out this quick 2 minute survey to help us learn more about our listeners: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TV68NB9

Welcome to the Pinkleton Pull-Aside Podcast. On this podcast, let's step aside from our busy lives to have fun, fascinating life giving conversation with inspiring authors, pastors, sports personalities and other influencers, leaders and followers. Sit back, grab some coffee, or head down the road and let's get the good and the gold from today's guest. Our host is Jeff Pinkleton, Executive Director of the Gathering of the Miami Valley, where their mission is to connect men to men, and men to God. You can reach Jeff at GatheringMV.org or find him on Facebook at The Gathering of the Miami Valley.T.C. Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television. T.C.'s desires shifted from football to acting in 2004, when he landed a spot on Animal Planet's King of the Jungle, a reality television show where he emerged as the season 2 champion. He then began a 4-year stint working with Russell Athletic as a fitness model. In 2011, T.C. made his feature film debut in the movie, "Courageous" where he portrayed the memorable character, "TJ".  It was in 2015 however, that his career reached new heights with his break-out performance as "Tony Jordan" in the hit film, "War Room", which soared to #1 at the box office. He would later land a nomination for Best Actor for his lead role in "God's Compass", followed by a Best Actor win for his supporting role in "Unbridled". TC also found success in booking TV commercials, with two of them being featured during the 2016 Rio Olympics and the 2016 Super Bowl. In 2019, his production company, Team TC Productions & Purpose Studios, reached a milestone when he wrote, directed, and self-produced a documentary called "24 Counter: The Story Behind the Run", which received a film festival nomination for "Most Inspirational Documentary". T.C. is also a nation-wide brand ambassador for Clearplay, a filtering company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options. T.C. is a wide-ranging actor, a huge advocate for clean family entertainment, and enjoys creatively getting involved in philanthropic efforts around the world.

This month's Reinventing Parking episode looks at parking lot maps.  Parking lot maps might seem an unlikely viral hit but Parking Reform Network's maps of downtown parking across the USA really did make a splash this northern Spring. They convey a compelling message, with many downtowns having more than 20 percent of their land devoted to parking. That's without even counting podium, underground or street parking. The maps were created by Thomas Carpenito and a team of PRN volunteers. To discuss the PRN Parking Lot Map project, I spoke with Thomas along with PRN President, Tony Jordan, and PRN Communications Coordinator, Etienne Lefebvre.  Reinventing Parking is the official podcast of the Parking Reform Network! Why not join?

Today on The Neil Haley Show and Love Is Podcast, Kim Sorrelle will interview Karen Abercrombie T.C. Stallings And Cameron Arnett Of Eleanors Bench On Pureflix Karen Abercrombie is an award-winning actress, Parents' Choice Award winning storyteller, award-winning independent film producer, a highly sought-after speaker, and an avid environmentalist. She plays Eleanor in Eleanor's Bench releasing on the Pure Flix on June 30, 2023. Most remember KAREN ABERCROMBIE from her award winning role as “Miss Clara” alongside Priscilla Shirer from the movie WAR ROOM. Karen studied psychology in college and also acted at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in NYC. Her acting career began on TV shows including Vampire Diaries, Saved by the Bell, Ally McBeal, Strong Medicine and Judging Amy. Her other films include DISCARDED THINGS, HOPE LIVES, AN ANGELIC CHRISTMAS, and HEAVEN SENT.Karen is an advocate of foster care having provided a home for many foster care children including older children. She is able to empathize with children from broken homes from her own childhood being raised by parents who were alcoholics and her mother was also a drug user.In 2018, Karen formed her own production company named Earth Mother Entertainment and has produced several films. She is married and lives near Charlotte, NC and has an adult son who is a robotics engineer T.C. Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television. T.C.'s desires shifted from football to acting in 2004, when he landed a spot on Animal Planet's King of the Jungle, a reality television show where he emerged as the season 2 champion. He then began a 4-year stint working with Russell Athletic as a fitness model. In 2011, T.C. made his feature film debut in the movie, "Courageous" where he portrayed the memorable character, "TJ". It was in 2015 however, that his career reached new heights with his break-out performance as "Tony Jordan" in the hit film, "War Room", which soared to #1 at the box office. He would later land a nomination for Best Actor for his lead role in "God's Compass", followed by a Best Actor win for his supporting role in "Unbridled". TC also found success in booking TV commercials, with two of them being featured during the 2016 Rio Olympics and the 2016 Super Bowl. In 2019, his production company, Team TC Productions & Purpose Studios, reached a milestone when he wrote, directed, and self-produced a documentary called "24 Counter: The Story Behind the Run", which received a film festival nomination for "Most Inspirational Documentary". T.C. is also a nation-wide brand ambassador for Clearplay, a filtering company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options. T.C. is a wide-ranging actor, a huge advocate for clean family entertainment, and enjoys creatively getting involved in philanthropic efforts around the world. Cameron Arnett was born on October 14, 1960 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. He is an actor and producer, known for Miami Vice (1984), Nefarious (2023) and Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987).

"Land is expensive for housing and free for parking, and you wonder why we have a problem" We discuss a surprising and an often overlooked issue around sprawling urban design: the high cost of 'free' parking.  Tony highlights various important aspects to parking reform: how lower income households are subsidizing wealthier households, America's unexamined 'socialist' attitude to free parking, parking as a battery for traffic & pollution and better use's for the land. From an organizing perspective Tony shares his opinion why it's important not to waste your time trying to convince people who are against you, but instead activating a small core who are passionate about the issue. We also cover the problem of the low social prestige of public transport drivers and mechanics, parking-lot violence, the communal benefits of public transit and why it's important to be exposed to humanity. References: Parking Reform - For climate action, housing affordability, and safer streets.: https://parkingreform.org/ The High Cost of Free Parking: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/101843.The_High_Cost_of_Free_Parking Picture Windows: How The Suburbs Happened: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1443177.Picture_Windows?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=DFPmUOw9dp&rank=1 Paved Paradise: How Parking Explains the World: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63329951-paved-paradise?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=dxvm8hwmKR&rank=6 Meet the Numtots: the millennials who find fixing public transport sexy: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/jul/05/meet-the-numtots-the-millennials-who-find-fixing-public-transit-sexy-urbanist-memes Parts of the YIMBY Movement Are Moving Left: https://jacobin.com/2022/10/yimby-movement-social-public-housing-bill-california-darrell-owens-left -- Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/itsnotjustinyourhead Email us with feedback, questions, suggestions at itsnotjustinyourhead@gmail.com. -- Harriet's other shows: WBAI Interpersonal Update (Wednesdays): https://wbai.org/program.php?program=431 Capitalism Hits Home: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPJpiw1WYdTNYvke-gNRdml1Z2lwz0iEH -- ATTENTION! This is a Boring Dystopia/Obligatory 'don't sue us' message: This podcast provides numerous different perspectives and criticisms of the mental health space, however, it should not be considered medical advice. Please consult your medical professional with regards to any health decisions or management. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/itsnotjustinyourhead/message

Violater DJ Showtyme Exclusive June Summer Mixx for Urban Grind Radio.  Lawrence “Violator DJ Showtyme” Clark has over 35 years in the music industry as a DJ, Producer, Artist and Radio Executive. Contact: DJShowtyme7@gmail.com EXECUTIVE V.P. A&R MIDWEST Violator DJ Showtyme started at an early age.  At age 3 his Mother taught him how to read and comprehend at a 2nd grade level.  By age 5 his father bought him his first crate of records, throughout his grammar and middle-aged years he took first in poetry and speech contests.  Showtime's Mom died in 1986 from Ovarian Cancer and he started emceeing talent shows.  His first contest, he dedicated to his Mom and the crowd went crazy.  He kept rapping during his High School years grabbing the attention of Pink House, Terry Hunter and First Lady.  After High School, Showtyme studied Radio/TV at Southern Illinois University at Carbondale.  He started doing all of the school parties for the frats and sororities on campus and ding and holding positions at WIDB FM. He continued rapping as well doing his debut album in 1995.  You can still find it selling overseas.  Showtyme then returned to Chicago in 2004 he joined Full Impact DJs with Jamal Smallz from WGCI.  He stayed with Impact Team for two years until he opened for DJ Slugo.  Slugo started Violator Juke Squad DJs an extension of Violator All Star.  Juke Squad remained intact for two years and Violator All Star DJs requested for Showtyme.            The rest as they say is history with DJ Showtyme DJing gigs, radio and opening for some of the biggest names in the industry. Acts include: Twista, Common Crucial Conflict, Tribe Called Quest Black Sheep, Omarion, G Herbo, NLE Choppa and Project Pat to name a few.  Stations include Hip Hop Nation, Shade 45, WGCI WRBJ Hip Hop Weekly /magazine Jamz 104 in Madison, WI, WYRB, WYSB and more. Showtyme is currently the Co-Founder and PD of Blazzin 95.1 located in Los Angeles.  A subsidiary of Kulturezine owned by Shakiji Abdul Malik and Tony Jordan focused of upliftment of the community and hip-hop culture.  

We welcome back the eminence grise of the Doctor Who Appreciation Society, Tony Jordan, to look back on April’s “Capitol …Continue reading →

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This episode of Reinventing Parking is full of encouragement for parking reformers.  It's a lively chat with the Parking Reform Network's enthusiastic president, Tony Jordan. I checked in with him to talk about the encouraging progress and momentum that we are seeing on parking reform and for the parking reform movement.  Our conversation left me feeling energized and upbeat about the difference we are making and I hope it does the same for you.  Find out more HERE. Follow Paul Barter on Twitter. Reinventing Parking is now the official podcast of the Parking Reform Network! Why not join?

Georgie is joined by Executive Producer Tim Key and Executive Producer and Writer Tony Jordan for this episode of the pod as they chat about the new spin-off to the much-loved series 'Death in Paradise', 'Beyond Paradise', which can be watched on the BBC from tomorrow. Georgie asks them what it's like to bring back characters in a spin-off after they have already walked off into the sunset (her favourite subject...) in another series. She also finds out what Tim and Tony like to watch when they're not working. Cue a moment where Georgie gets to dissect 'Love Island' with Tony...the dream!

In today's episode, Sheila talks with Tony Jordan, Chairman of Classic Hip Hop Lives Concert Tour and CEO of the DJ artist music group Nu Soul Collective about using one's own creative flow from the unique perspective of a producer's point of view in the music industry.

T.C. Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television.His desires shifted from football to acting in 2004, when he landed a spot on Animal Planet's King of the Jungle, a reality television show where he emerged as the season 2 champion.  In 2011, T.C. made his feature film debut in the movie, "Courageous" where he portrayed the memorable character, "TJ".  It was in 2015 however, that his career reached new heights with his break-out performance as "Tony Jordan" in the hit film, "War Room", which soared to #1 at the box office. He is promoting his latest movie “No Vacancy” where he portraits Cecil Johnson. T.C. is also a nation-wide brand ambassador for Clearplay, a filtering company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options. T.C. is a wide-ranging actor, a huge advocate for clean family entertainment, and enjoys creatively getting involved in philanthropic efforts around the world. Show Notes www.thedadedge.com/407

START No Free Parking: California reverses its policy on parking minimums, and parking reformer Tony Jordan is celebrating with Lindsay Sturman. parkingreform.org/los-angeles-party/ 11:25 on.soundcloud.com/Be13k Fail to Plan, Plan to Fail: California Senator Anthony Portantino's newly signed "Plan For The Future" law requires cities and counties to include bicycle and pedestrian plans, multimodal networks, and traffic calming for any urbanized area. Senator Portantino talks about how his views - and weight - changed since he took up biking, with Tunette Porter. 23:00 on.soundcloud.com/RDGi5 Networking: Andy Boenau's tweet pointed out there's no push for bicycle infrastructure like there is for a national EV charging network. It went viral, with over 19,000 likes. Andy describes some of the reactions as scripted, "Non Player Character" types of responses. He explains which "NPCs" he engaged, and why. twitter.com/Boenau/status/15784…v-65IFPVnA9g1UO2NZw 36:43 on.soundcloud.com/VirmC Electrifying: Ruthy Woodring, co-founder of Pedal People (a worker-owned human-powered delivery and hauling service in Northampton, Massachusetts) on whether the People will start using EVs to haul trash. Editing by Kevin Burton. Closing Song, "Bike," by Mal Webb. Interstitial music, "Just Moving," by Don Ward. Visit BikeTalk.org to be involved.

Tony Jordan, director of the energy consultancy Auxilione, says the design of the UK's energy price cap is now in question, as costs are set to soar in the coming months. It estimates the average annual household bill will surge past £5,000 next year. Jordan told Bloomberg's Stephen Carroll and Tom Mackenzie that massive borrowing would be needed for further government subsidies.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode features edited highlights from an excellent panel discussion on parking reform that took place at the YIMBYtown 2022 conference in Portland, Oregon. YIMBY stands for 'yes in my backyard', referring to supporting housing development within existing urban areas, and YIMBYtown was all about abundant housing advocacy. The panel, Parking Reform: from theory to practice, was moderated by Catie Gould of the Sightline Institute. She was in our March 2022 episode. The panelists were: Martha Roskowksi, transportation and mobility consultant in Boulder, Colorado and author of 'Ideas to Accelerate Parking Reform in the United States' John Bauters, Mayor of Emeryville, California and also chair of the Alameda County Transportation Commission and the vice chair of the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. Tony Jordan, our Parking Reform Network President Leah Bojo, land use consultant, formerly worked on land-use, transportation and parking at Austin City Council, and author of a chapter on Austin's first Parking Benefits District in Donald Shoup's 2018 book, Parking and the City. Read more details here.  Follow Paul Barter on Twitter. Reinventing Parking is now the official podcast of the Parking Reform Network! Why not join?

Episode 166 is different. This isn't just an interview. First off, this interview came together in about 10 minutes of texts. When Aaron realized that T.C. was from our hometown of Bedford, the wheels went into motion. Thanks to the efforts of several key people, this interview took place. T.C. and Aaron graduated from the same High School in Cleveland, Ohio (Bedford). They are proud of their hometown and the city that made them. In this interview, we sit down with T.C. and discuss his success, his projects (including novacancymovie.com), and his upbringing in the 216. Cannot thank T.C. enough for squeezing us in today. We're forever linked now! Unscripted!T.C. Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television. T.C.'s desires shifted from football to acting in 2004 when he landed a spot on Animal Planet's King of the Jungle, a reality television show where he emerged as the season 2 champion. In 2011, T.C. made his feature film debut in the movie COURAGEOUS. In 2015 he performed his break-out role as Tony Jordan in the hit film WAR ROOM, which hit No. 1 at the box office. T.C. has acted in commercials, is an author and producer, writer and director. His documentary 24 COUNTER: THE STORY BEHIND THE RUN received a film festival nomination for Most Inspirational Documentary. T.C. also is a nationwide brand ambassador for Clearplay, a company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options.To find out more about T.C. visit - https://tcstallings.life/

This episode kicks off season 5 of Faith On Film with new co-host, Holly McClure. Isaac and Holly interview T.C. Stallings best known for his role as Tony Jordan in the highly successful Faith Based movie "War Room".

Parking seems like an afterthought when it comes to discussing systemic inequities in our towns; however, it's anything but. Parking ordinances and regulations can make or break a downtown, gentrify our spaces, and boost or kill development. In a talk with Tony Jordan, founder and president of the Parking Reform Network, we talk about how parking basically decides who comes and goes in our communities, and how we can use examples of parking reform in other cities to create conscientious and evidence-based regulations to get us to where we want to be.

Episode Summary:Guess the chart!LAZR CFO InterviewHow Russ Davis made more than a million dollars on Shiba InuGuests:Tim Quast, Founder/CEO, ModernIR and Market Structure EdgeTwitter: https://twitter.com/_timquastTom Fennimore, CFO, Luminar Technologies (LAZR)Christian Fromhertz, Founder and CEO of Tribeca Trade GroupTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/cfromhertzShiba Inu Millionaire Russ DavisHosts:Spencer IsraelTwitter: https://twitter.com/sjisraelAaaron BryTwitter: https://twitter.com/aaronbry5Subscribe to all Benzinga Podcasts hereClick here for BENZINGA TRADING SCHOOL Get 20% off Benzinga PRO here Become a BENZINGA AFFILIATE and earn 30% on new subscriptionsDisclaimer: All of the information, material, and/or content contained in this program is for informational purposes only. Investing in stocks, options, and futures is risky and not suitable for all investors. Please consult your own independent financial adviser before making any investment decisions.Unedited Transcript. Before we get to our guests, that chart of the day, let's just go through some headlines. Um, let me pull up my Benzinga pro.So you guys may have seen, but Metta, AKA, formerly known as Facebook is up more than 4% today, about 13 bucks. So let's check in on Facebook. See what news is driving the movement. Um, Spencer Metta hidden $400 in the next three months. Take it or leave it. Where does it at right now? It is at all believable.Show me a chart. I'll pull up the chart right here for you. I thought the name change wasn't happening yet. Oh, it already happened. It did Mehta platforms maybe, but the ticker is still, Facebook is a, I think next week, changing to M B R S I believe. Can we, can you go to a new city real fast? When did they announce it?When did they announce? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Was it like, it was like two weeks ago, right? It was awhile ago. I don't know if I'm able to find it on here. Yeah. I bet you, you will. If you just scroll and scroll back a few weeks, I bet you it's like, I think it was like middle of October, right? End of October. Yeah.Metaverse here we come now. Keep going. Keep going. Well, you hear my feet right here. Why the Facebook name for it was like, it was like middle of the month. Here we go. Facebook rebrands is Metta. What investors need to know? Facebook will change its ticker on December 1st. Okay. So wait, what date would they use this though?This is up. Keep keeps calling, keep calling. It's October 28th. Now, can we go back to the chart here, please? This is my point, October 28th was when they announced the name change as good as a daily or something? Yep. Okay. Can we find that on the chart? Here's October 28th right here. Oh, the bottle, this green candle, the bottom.You're saying the bottom the day before. Yeah, the day before was the bottom. And then they changed the name. Interesting. Hmm. If only there had been someone to theorize, is this a buying opportunity because stocks tend to run up into, into stupid events for no reason. For example, the apple and the Tesla stock splits from last year.I definitely 100% said that, uh, on clear market prep or at the close, or I don't know any other show, um, And Hey, I was right. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think a lot of people have been kind of, I'm not going to say duped by this, but they, they definitely is. Some investors are seeing Facebook a little differently now that it's us.So wait, what was that low price right there? On the 28th? It was what it was on the 28th. It was 3 0 8 11. And we're we're we're up at 3 41 now 3 41 now. Yep. So it's more than 10%. $33 and in two weeks? Yup. Okay. Don't don't say, I don't say I didn't say anything cause I 100% say. Yeah, this could happen. Of course, I didn't do anything about it because I forgot.Cause that's what I do. I say things. And then I forget, I say them, but Spencer, the chat doesn't look too happy with you today. Dude chat. Why Spence? Why I didn't kill SPACs I moved it. This is what I did. I didn't kill it. I think Jason is actually legitimately upset. Uh, thankfully he's not here right now because if he was here, it would be a whole different kind of day.But, uh, he's at home. I think I actually, I don't even know where he is and I like it that way. So, uh, Jason is in, uh, California Palm Springs. Ooh, wait a minute. He's going to Palm Springs and he's and he's inside or I guess he doesn't have to be inside, but uh, and he's watching us from Palm Springs. How do you know that?Um, look guys, we are always, I know. Everything's great. Wait, how does Martin know that? And I don't know that Martin. Who are you? Uh, are you Jason? Um, we're always making changes. We're always, um, doing something because you always did. It is not a good reason to keep doing it. Right. So we're always trying to improve.Uh, that means trying new things and sometimes stopping things, doing things the way they are. Um, and that's okay. That's a sign of growth. We're in growth mode here at Benzinga right. The other news items today, we're looking at Tesla down 3.7% right now. So well off of its highs of last week, when it got to let's see about $1,239, I believe it was the all time high that we haven't Tesla's chart.Um, so yeah, I mean, I don't know if this is still trading off. It seems like after Elon Musk announced he was selling, we, we discussed on this show, why exactly Elon Musk is selling. Why he, you know, can you zoom in more on the last couple of days, maybe go to like an intraday chart. I just want to, I want to look at yesterday specifically as you finished that thought four hour chart.Yeah, that's good. Because if you're watching pre-market prep yesterday, you, you heard us or you saw us go is the question why, why that. Is Tesla trading higher after yesterday morning after it comes out of that, Ilan sold a bunch of shares. It didn't really make any sense at all. And low and behold here you are a day later.We're right back where we were before. Yeah. We discussed it on this show that Ilan and his kind of slide genius way. Um, framed it as, as he was selling Tesla stocks so that he could pay his fair share of taxes, like out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to, um, you know, do what everyone else has to do and pay taxes.But. Who knows there were reports out there from, you know, a number of outlets saying essentially he had a big tax bill had to sell anyway. So regardless of what the outcome of that Twitter poll was, would be, um, there were a lot of people theorizing that Yvonne was going to sell anyway, or maybe he already had.So I don't know. I think this is this, this will be an interesting chart to watch for the next week or so, because Tesla's always prone to run. Right. We could see another run up to 1200 next week. I would not be out here by and puts or anything, but the chart does look a little precarious that it could come back down to these $900 levels.So I would just be watching this. I don't know if you guys are out there in the chat, let me know if you're trading Tesla and how, how you are trading it. Uh, maybe when Tim comes on, we can ask him for the sentiment on, on Tesla. Yeah. Tiny pie in the chat. Billionaires always act responsibly. They, you know, you got to give it to you on, right.If I was a billionaire, I would definitely say. Way more time on Twitter than I currently do. And I spend a lot of time on Twitter. Um, your lawn pro perhaps spends too much time with Twitter for guy running three companies, but Hey, who am I to judge? Uh, guys, I came act move at a faster pace than the rest of us.Someone was asking for the support line. It looks like right here, you know, kind of where we're at right now will be a, a big line in the sand because if we drop below here, um, it, we, we could drop even further, um, down to maybe this $968 level right here where we have previous support. Um, but I think if we do see a drop, a few more points that we could see it bounce from here.So I would just keep your eye on this chart for the rest of the day. Like I said, let me know in the chat, how you are trading it. Um, yeah. Do you mean to tell, can you pull up a Bitcoin chart real fast? Yeah, of course Bitcoin or any Bitcoin related thing? I don't really care. Um, and I ask because I want to see what Bitcoin has done in the last hour.Okay. I don't know, um, what the hell is going on. Try to refreshing. I don't know. Uh, the re and the reason I want to know what's going on in the last hour is because we got some news, um, but an hour and a half ago now, uh, that the sec has rejected VNX application for a spot Bitcoin ETF. If you're into these things, you know that we have two Bitcoin ETFs, they are both be both based on the Bitcoin futures.And there are several applications out there. The leading one was Vanek for an actual ETF based on the spot price of Bitcoin, just like the GLD is based on the spot price of gold or the USO. Um, actually, no, not the USO, nevermind a bad example, but GLD, um, that our example, and that has been rejected. So we are not going to get from the moment in ETF.That is 100%. Backed by the price of Bitcoin that being said, does the market care AB or not really? Um, I mean, we've got Bitcoin trading down about two and a half percent today. I'm trying to see it on more of an intraday chart. But, um, yeah, I mean, so we can see here in the last, what, when did that news come out around and a half ago.Okay. So let's call it 11:00 AM. Um, oh, I thought he was gonna walk behind us.Alright, thanks Luke. Sorry, what was your, what were you saying? I bit Bitcoin straighten down, but who's to say, that's why, I mean, I think, you know, there's always, there's always news. Bitcoin trades. Like anything else you've got technicals, you have news. It's harder to say with Bitcoin, um, when news affects the price versus stocks, because a lot of times news will come out on a certain stock and you can see that movement right away.I think Bitcoin was already showing some weakness here in the chart before that news came out. So again, it's very hard to say exactly why, um, Bitcoin is trading lower today, but we did see Bitcoin hit new all time highs earlier in the week when the CPI data came out. And even then that day after it hit new all-time highs, it ended up trading lower on that 24 hour period.So, um, again, in the chat, throw me out a one. If you, if you're in Bitcoin right now, throw me a two. If you're on the sideline, um, throw me a three. If you are selling any crypto that you were holding right now, Spencer, what are you, what are you doing in crypto right now? Wishing wishing a. But the devil, you know, in all seriousness, w like with regards to crypto Bitcoin and Ethereum hell, um, I am seriously considering, like, I, like, I do like dollar cost averaging, right.For like the, the, the long-term stuff, right. Their retirement accounts and all that. I'm actually seriously considering putting all that on pause, um, for the foreseeable future and just dollar cost averaging into crypto instead. Right. I like my, my allocation is like 98% stocks. Um, so I'm, and it's, it's, it's, you know, it's the end of the year, it's the, you know, the time to, to, to, to think about these kinds of things, and I'm seriously considering, um, just not contributing to certain retirement accounts next year, and just putting all that money in Bitcoin and Ethereum, Ethereum, ether, Bitcoin, and ether it happy.Um, I'd be, I'd be very curious to get the chat thoughts on that. Uh, would you stop contributing to, like, I only have, you know, I only have so much money coming in. Right. You have to allocate that we all have to allocate what we have. Um, would you stop, would you, uh, stop contributing to, uh, stocks and retirement accounts and do crypto instead, or would you do something different?Uh, but that's, that's my, that's my plan for next year. I honest to God I'm going to not contribute to my retirement accounts and do that. Do the Crip, just add more Bitcoin and ether. Beautiful. That's my, um, that's my honest to God plan. All right. There, you have it, Spencer himself. Yeah. I mean, I, cause I, I, I bought Bitcoin at one time.I bought Ethereum one time. I've got like $5,000 of, of like exposure here. You know what I mean? Like let's nothing. So. Uh, oh, and I also have a Solano. I don't know how much I have in that. I don't, I don't even remember. Um, so the last news out of my wanting to get to, before we get to our chart, our guests, the chart of the day.So I've been watching the China trade for the past couple of days. Um, Baba trading down about 1% today. But what's interesting to me about this is if you pull up JDS chart, J D is up two and a half percent. So J D is showing a lot of relative strength against Baba and other Chinese names right now. But the JD chart looks very strong to me.It looks like we could be due for a nice little breakout, I think right here, we're at a point where if we can break through this $87 level, that's acted as resistance. Um, then we could really see J D run for the rest of the day and into next week. I would definitely add this stock to your watch list right now, if you haven't already, and then you can also look at Baba as, Hey, maybe this is going to, you know, gotta catch up to JD, uh, if all their Chinese names of showing strength.So I'm not in Baba right now. I do have an open call on J D. So, uh, that's been doing well for me up about 35% right now, but I'm looking to hold it through the rest of this afternoon, at least in case we get that breakout that I'm, uh, that I'm looking for. Um, so yeah, let me know in the chat, if you're looking at JD Baba, any other Chinese names or really any names in, in general, because can you pull up the K wave?There's a certain, certain viewer prereq or prep, uh, that asked me about K-pop because I sold it too much to my own chagrin, uh, a few months ago, when, when shit hit the. And it keeps asking if I'm going to buy back in, stand with a good comment, staying with the underwriter comment of the day, uh, with regards to the, my Bitcoin, uh, conundrum here.Um, why, why don't I just create, go to Bitcoin IRA or I trust capital or any of these firms and just create a Roth IRA with, with Bitcoin? I didn't know. You could do that. Yeah, you can stand, stay knows. I know. We know we've been on. They've been on our conference, we know. Um, but to your point, Spencer K Webb's chart looks pretty good right now.I, I like the fact that, uh, you know, if you were a viewer of get technical, you know, you, you know, we like to look for these sustained bottoms where a chart's been beaten down, but it hangs out in a rain showing that it has support down here. And then once you see some, some strength coming back up on the upside, you can easily set your price target to back up here at $70 currently at 51.Um, so this is, these are daily candles. If we zoom in, we can see we've had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 green candles in a row here. So it definitely looks like we're getting a little bit of a reversal here again. There, there will be. On the way up that will act as resistance to watch out for right here at around $54.Um, yeah, $54 50 cents at that'd be a resistance level to watch, but you know, we get through these, I think we can easily run back up to $60 and then even 70. So I'm adding this, uh, I'm adding Kay to my watch list right now, Spencer. Thanks for pointing it out. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I still have no interest from a fundamental point of view.Um, but I guess call me, call me if it gets to 60. All right. And then maybe I'll be interested. I don't know. I have no idea. Um, I didn't want to sell this. I feel like my hand was forced, right? I, this was like a long-term holding of mine. I had this thing for like three or four years, which, you know, I'm 30 years old.I've been investing for like less than a decade, three or four years is a long time. Someone in the chat talking about M micron. Uh, that chart looks very strong too. You know, we're at $77 77 50 right now. It looks like the next spot of resistance will be about 81. So, uh, keep your eyes on micron. I think micron trades with the rest of the crypto stocks, right?Not really. Not really. Not really. Name's Mike Brown. I made a trades with the trades, with the chips trades with Nvidia trades with Hamdi. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Um, all right. Uh, I dunno where Tim is. I shot him an email. Uh, I hope he can join us today. Uh, pretty sure he'll find he'll find us at some point, but you want to do our guests, that shirt let's do it.Sponsor. Who was it yesterday that suggested we get rid of a, the price axis. Was that shit? Was that a Christian calendar? Maybe? No, it wasn't Christian. I forgot it. I don't think there, whoever was, I don't think they're here right now, but if whoever suggested that we w we took that into account, so I'm gonna bring up a chart right now.And I got rid of the price axis as someone's suggestion. Apparently, uh, the last two days were too easy yesterday. We did, we did PayPal the day before we did D whack, and those are way too easy. So, um, this chart. And gonna bring up on the screen here. We have no price access I zoomed in. So you couldn't see it.Um, I think this is way too hard personally, without the price axis, but here we are. We'll see if someone it, well, I feel like you'll need some hands. This is like, what would be difficult? I I'm, I'm going to give some hints here because, uh, um, I just, okay. Hey, number one, this is a retail play, but like a retailer.So like for example, not, not snow, right? This is a retail play. That's hit number one, number two. Um, the company reported earnings, um, this, this cycle, and it was like the best quarter in their history that, um,Oh, that's funny. Um, okay. See, okay, now, now we're getting, we're getting close to now. We're getting closer. We're not, we're not quite there yet. I'm seeing Walmart. I'm seeing, uh, uh, Macy's Meli. Not a bad, I don't actually know what they're talking about. It looks like Martin, but that's not a bad guess. Um, Costco shop.Okay. Bed bath. Nope, not quite. Um, this is a, it's a retailer buddy, but I, yeah, I didn't say as retailers. So retail play through retail plates, not a retailer to retail play. It's more of a, um, accessory, uh, pat not, not, it's not a peril. Is it apparel? Apparel? Is it apparel? I'm not quite sure. How, how would you classify?Oh, well, oh, well what do we have here? We have ourselves in one. Sand Viper. Got it. Crocs, take your C R O X. How do I zoom out? There we go. Cracks one of the best performing stocks over the last five, 10 years. Um, like you said, Spencer reported just blow out earnings. Uh, shout out sand Viper, 1, 4, 5 in the chat Sanjeev.Got it right after, but sand Viper was our first one. Sand Viper, email us@showsatbenzinga.com. Put it up on the screen. Yeah. Or in the chat or something? I am. All right. All right. All right. And you will get a free piece of swag for being today's chart guests. The chart winner. Shelley wants one more. Wait, this is, this is the consequence of your actions.I think we can do one more for Friday. Uh, yeah, but let Spencer and I, we have to think about it for a second, but I have to take it off the screen then because we have to like find some, some cool. You guys want to do one more? I mean, it's Friday. Like w what the hell? All right. We do have our next guest coming up or our first case, I should say, um, Tom, uh, Tom Fenimore will be on in what?20 minutes or so? 12, 14, 15 minutes, right? It's two it's it's at 1245 and it's 1230 right now. So we can do one more. Yeah, that's a good idea. I had a cyclist, but we're not going to do one more. We're not going to do one more unless we get a certain number of likes. And right now we are at 30, 32 likes.We will do another chart. Another guest, that chart, if we get to 100 likes, if we get to a hundred, we'll do another one. If we don't, we won't. And now we wait. Maybe, and we sit here. Nice.Just in case, I'm going to find one just in caseI'm taking suggestions for our potential second chart of the day.What about this one? That's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. I'm going to go with that one. If we get there, if we got there, how many do we need? We need to get to a hundred red, 57. So we're not really close. At some point, we got to draw the line with you. It's somebody. We got to say, okay, no more.Let's give her like a minute or twoBrian blockchain. I completely agree. I'm actually here. What is. I'll be honest with you, Brian. I shot him an email. Should I text him right now? Like Tim, where you at? Man Martin, shout out Martin. He gave three likes. If you're like Martin and you have multiple YouTube or Google accounts, get in there at night.I don't know if I support that, that that's voter fraud. Get into your parents' Gmail, YouTube account. Make one for your grandparents. Make one for yourself. If you guys aren't boomers like Spencer, then go ahead. And dude, that's that's voter fraud. So everyone does voter fraud. Oh, I don't. I voted three times in the last election.Geez. All right.Um, Christians can't even do that. It's funny. Okay. Wait, kids keeping an eye. I'm texting Tim right now. We're at a we're at 60. So we ain't going to get there. Um, I'm going to pull up another chart real quick. I have one. No, not one of those. I'm just showing. I'm just showing you. This is Sean peeps. All right.Roadblocks roadblocks has been trading kind of crazily the past few days up 5% down, 5% up right now, 8.8%. So we're bout to, it looks like it's going to run into this previous, all time high of 1 0 9 97. Um, I don't know. I mean, I'm not trying to squeeze out any trade for a few bucks up to 1 0 9, but once we hit that level, uh we're we're either going to see it breakthrough.And then I think, you know, there'll be some, some move on the ups. Who knows what the price target, maybe someone out there that can do that, the fibrillar trace mint can tell me what it would be if we break a retracement or if we hit that 1 0 9 level and start coming back down, then I might start looking at some short dated puts or something just cause I, I do, I like this stock long term.Um, but you know, it's moved a lot. I believe after the earnings went up about 30% traded off. Those highs is now coming back up so we could see a little double top formation if it starts coming down off that 1 0 9 level. But if we break through then I don't know, Spencer, I'll just throw something out there.1 15, 1 20. How many YOLOs can you do at one time? Can I, yeah, I can do them quite a bit. It depends on the PDT rule it. Yeah. I went to Ben on that right now. I, um, let's see. W okay. Sanjeev asked about, uh, about Snapchat, Sanjeev. I, I screwed that one up because, um, I wanted to buy it and I got too cute with my order.I think you still got, I mean, look at this chart spend. So this is a daily chart. Look, you still, you still got it down here. It's not like, I don't remember if my order is good till canceled or not. Well, maybe that'd be something. Maybe that'd be something to check out. But, but I, I think as long as we see some strength down here, maybe two green candles in a row, then we can see Snapchat start trying to fill this gap.Um, come back up to the $70 level currently at $53. I just, it seems like it's going to be trading sideways for a minute. So I would wait. I'm all on a snap swing plate. So you see some more strength coming up on the upside. We'd like to have that strength identified. We like to have the trend as your friend at the back.Um, so let me know in the chat, how y'all are playing Snapchat if you guys are looking at it? Uh, yeah, I've got my order out of 52. Uh, so I'd like live George Sanjeev. I wanted to buy it and I didn't, but I wish I had. Anyway. Okay. I think what we'll do is we'll probably just keep the, the chart of the day, like con counter thing going for just the rest of the show.If we get 200 likes in the next hour and a half, we will do a guest that chart another one. But if we don't, we won't, that's simple. We have 10 minutes to our first guest anyway. Sothat's it. The de I'm liking the music, Ron. Thank you. You're welcomeup a ball. What else, uh, Christian asked about, or he may ask, you just mentioned PayPal. I didn't everyday with PayPal. There, there were a few stocks that we get asked about all the time. Right? We get asked about PayPal. Um, I feel really bad. There was someone in pre-market prep that asks us about Paysafe PSFA every single day.Can you pull up the chart? Hey, is this P S F E I got every. They ask about the stock and like, I don't know what to tell them. You know what I mean? I mean, that speaks for itself. Is that an all time low? I don't know. Why am I so soon again, guys? What is, what is going on here? Doing.What is going on it's because it's Friday or just messing around. Oh, that's up there. All right. We need to utilize it over the overhead camera more. Um, for next week, we're going to have some, some more games. We're going to be doing some, um, some, some shooting hoops. We're going to be doing some, uh, some dark board throwing.It's going to be a more, well, a little more interactive of a show. And then we, uh, Evan doing, and also we're going to, we're going to get a B out of the office. We're going to have them go outside. And do some man on the street type stuff, correct? Yeah. I'm saying it now. I'm saying, dude, why I'm saying it nowwe have a respected executives coming on the show in 10 minutes. I just want to remind, I wonder about that, but I'm, I'm saying it now, so you all can hold us accountable. Okay. If we do not do a segment with Aaron Bree, where he is live on this show from somewhere else, that is not this desk. Then you can yell at us.Exactly. Shelly, exactly. Awkwardly harassing people of Detroit. Can we get razon on no Sanjeev? It's going to be a hard, no on Raz today. I don't want to get yelled at Clinton. It's in eight minutes. Eight minutes, content Hoda. We'll have a Tom Fenimore on the show. So yeah, w it's a bit of a off scripts show today.Oh, well that was the brakes. So we're going to have Tom Fenimore at 1245, uh, after Tom will have, uh, Christian from Hertz from Tribeca Tredegar, but one o'clock, uh, the guy is a professional trader. Um, he's a beast, honestly, the guy is just a monster. Uh, he's really, really, really good at what he does. So, uh, we can a few charts with Christian at one.I want to thirties Shiba, Inu Ross. If you have any millionaire, uh, that'll be a nice way to wrap up the show. I think we'll talk about what he's doing with that money. Coca Cola, making new all time highs, checking on that Kao is the ticker. Yeah. Can I tell you the Madison story? So my very first week at Benzinga or no, not my very first week as their producer pre-market prep.This is like my way we got some fake news in the chat. I'm seeing the all time high up here at, I don't even know where I want to tell you a quick story. So my very first week previous from pre-market prep, it was I'd been in Benzinga for like, I don't know, two months at that point. Um, and I didn't know anything about anything and yet they here, they put me in charge of this, of this show for some reason.And it was like my second or third day as a producer of Chiraq Primerica prep. And, um, I saw that news on ticker or C O K Coke. Right. D do you know that one on, what did you know? Coke? See? Okay. Yeah. It's like the Coca-Cola whole, it's like the bottle of the bottling company. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Was a bottling company.And, um, I thought that was Coke. Oh, Coke is making new all-time highs. The bottling company C okay. Yeah. Oh, that's what, um, someone in the chat was. I thought that I thought, see, okay, was Coca-Cola the drink, but it's not. And I was very embarrassing. I said on the show and Joel and Dennis was like, no, no, no different companies.It's kind of cool. I like whatever's going on. Yeah. I'm feeling that too. Um, so that was embarrassing. And then another time I confuse GM and GE, that was also embarrassing. That's actually a good segment idea. Sorry, go ahead. Where in the world is Raz? We just have razz joined from his cell phone when I was in Palm Springs, by the way.But, um, what Palm Springs never say? Oh, the Andy Samberg one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I have a bunch of those stories of me, of my early days. You're just like, not knowing anything. Isn't confusing stocks. Um, Gavin, uh, we see, just to clarify, Gavin hunter was ticker, C O K E or ticker. K O one of your first investments because it is confusing.Isn't it? There's two companies. One of them is the ticket with Coke and that's not Coca-Cola. It makes no sense. I feel like we should also take submissions for Johnson Johnson. If you didn't hear the news or split on the company up into two, who else? There was another company outside of a GE that was talking about splitting, I think, um, Toshiba.Yeah.Someone's asking about CCL. Um, let's see, I got the chart pulled up carnival. I mean, I don't know. I don't, I I'm kind of up in the air. I don't know what to think about. You know, last year around holiday times we had a COVID spike from everyone gathering with family and moving into. Um, in the winter, I don't think we'll see as big of a spike this year, obviously with more vaccines out.But if we do see any little uptick in COVID cases in certain states, and I think some of these cruise lines will get hit particularly. So I don't know, I'm kind of on the, I'm kind of on the sideline right now and all these cruise trades, but interestingly, the cruise line stocks are, are some of the only stocks that have not made up their ground from, from where they were at pre COVID.If you look at pre COVID carnival was at about 53 or $43, excuse me, currently at 22. So you can, you can definitely make the argument that there's still value there that eventually the cruise lines will be back to normal, back to business as usual. Um, but I just think there's definitely a play here. I think there are sexier investments out there to make right now, perhaps if you've ever been on a carnival cruise.I've been on one cruise in my life and it was in Alaska. And one, we took off from Seattle. And you go with your grandparents? Yeah, my grandma, my grandma's 70th birthday, I believe. Um, I was, it was okay. I've never been on a corner. Alaska was amazing. I mean, if, if, if anyone has the opportunity to go to Alaska and see some of the, uh, you know, nature and everything, that's up there.It's incredible. I, I strongly recommend it, but being on the cruise ship and it just, well, I actually, I mean, I was like 12, so it was falling like running around. You have the buffet. Uh, that was probably the best part. Spencer was, every meal was a buffet. I just, all you can eat. Um, is carnival cruise lines?The, the, the carnival cruises. I don't know. I'm trying to remember what it was like the chaos, like what, what cruise line we were on because it wasn't like a Disney cruise or anything like that. It was just like, uh, maybe Norwegian carnivals for like college people when they young families. Right. I'm pretty sure.I think it was a Royal Caribbean. Oh, Royal crew. I've been on a few of those. These are a few cruises. Yeah. What do you think about cruises? Oh, I love cruises. I've been weirdly enough wanting to go on a cruise. Is it the buffet part that you like? I mean, that's one thing that I like, I'm not, I don't not like it, but it's not the only thing that I like.Um, I just, I like cruises. I've been on. I've been lucky enough to go on three. Um, they've all been, were Caribbean. I liked them. I weirdly enough. I've had a hankering for one in the last six months maybe. Cause we were all cooped up for a year.Wait, everyone's talking about self-driving. The master of stocks, are we the same person? He said he did an Alaskan cruise and he was 12 as well. So yeah, that's my one, my one experience on a, on a cruise, you know, being 12 years old, running around the boat. Well, one of the highlights was we snuck in my cousin and I, we were about 12 years old snuck into the, uh, like they had a comedian there doing entertainment and it was supposed to be like 18 plus adult only.And it was very, uh, we were like 12 and it was like very vulgar. And we were just cracking up the whole time because all these jokes were like adult jokes and we thought it was hilarious. And, uh, yeah, good time. Um, I actually almost died on the first cruise I ever went on. I was 15 and got into a fight with someone on the shuffleboard court.No close though. Um, I, I have a pretty severe allergy to nuts, all kinds of nuts. Right? Peanuts, walnuts, almonds, all of them. And I had a cookie. It's always a cookie. I had a cookie that was misleading. At the buffet, speaking of buffets. Yeah. And, um, I ended up spending an entire day of the cruise in the like sick bay area.It was so pretty. And we're like in the middle of like the ocean right in the middle of nowhere. And I, it was actually a pretty serious reaction. I spend the entire day in that, um, infirmary area. Um, and it was not good. Um, I'm sure they had to have an epi pen somewhere on that. I was getting pumped up like IVs and everything, but the silver lining of all that, the best part was I ended up like waking up the next day at like four or five in the morning or something.And I got to watch the sunrise from the front of the ship in the Caribbean. And it was like one of the best things ever. Um, but that was a pretty rough day. So what about that? Everyone's talking about self-driving cars. Oh, that's a good segue. Yeah. That's a great segue. Isn't it? Well, yeah, I was going to say maybe there's this self-driving cruise ship play out there.No. Well, well maybe here, you know, we can ask our next guest, uh, is, um, is carnival Royal Caribbean, or all these crews on who is interested in LIDAR technology? Does LIDAR technology work underwater? I don't even know. We're about to find out. Let's get Tom Fenimore, the CFO of Luminar on this.Hello, Mr. Fenimore, how are we doing? I'm doing great guys. I was listening into the last segment here. It almost makes me want to go book a cruise here. Um, and a, can I answer your question? Why do our work under water? Is that, is that just sonar? I'm going to have to text our BD guys and just say, Hey, what are we doing on the, on the, uh, you know, in the whole cruise sector, it seems to be a potential.Any, any, any deals closed in that sector? You can send some commission our way. Well, look, if you guys didn't want to join the team here and lead the charge in that segment, I'm sure we can make it. Awesome. So first off, Tom congrats. Uh, a good quarter yesterday, I was watching, uh, your CEO on CMEC yesterday and he, and he made a comment and I want, uh, Austin Russell.And I thought it was very interesting. He said, uh, at the start of the year y'all, um, outlined five key milestones for the business, right. That would grow the business. Um, can you, can you explain a little bit maybe what those milestones were? He said, he said, you guys are crushing all of them. Sure. And I'll walk you through the five milestones.And while we did this, because this is a little unique for a public company. We're not entering series production until the end of next year. And so while financial statements and quarterly financial results for a company are always very important. What we're focused on here at Luminar is more the medium and longer term, um, shareholder value creation, as always like to say, uh, my largest shareholder owns 30% of the company is 26 years old.And so, you know, we're very, long-term focused here. And so then if you're not kind of focused on your financial results, what is the scorecard, uh, that we should use to judge you by it? Um, and, and I, you know, we have five milestones. Uh, two of them are related to industrialization, uh, or getting our products ready, uh, for series production and real revenue sales to our customers.Uh, two of them are related to getting the wins in place, uh, and growing, um, uh, you know, the revenue that we expect because in the automotive industry, It takes, it typically takes you some time to actually win a series production contract. And then after you win that, it typically takes two to three years to launch it.And so, um, you have to win, uh, things today in order to start giving revenue in 23 and 24. And then the last one is making sure that we're doing this in a disciplined spend manner, uh, in that we're, uh, you know, not spending like drunken sailors and being very disciplined with our shareholders' cash. Um, so the first one, the first milestone relates to getting our Iris actual LIDAR sensor ready.And in, in the ultimate goal is to get to start a production for series production in the end of next year. And then the auto industry, uh, there's really four stages, uh, as you kind of get through the development, there's your 80 samples safe. See samples, and then you guys that the D samples, uh, and we're now, uh, you know, we kind of started the year entering the B sample phase.We want to end the year entering the C sample phase. Uh, and we're now doing that in order to get to the sea samples. Uh, we have to have the tooling in place that is going to be actually producing these parts, which we have, we have to have our manufacturing design and our sensor design in place to do that, which, uh, we do.And, um, you know, we need to have kind of our, our manufacturing partners select it, which is Celeste tikka. Um, and so, uh, we're now entering the sea sample phase. Um, we kind of said we want to get there by the end of the year. Uh, and that's, and that's a goal that I think we're imminently about to achieve and, and pretty confident we'll be there by the end of the year.The second one is on our software side and to have an alpha version. Of our Sentinel product suite, ready to go. Um, we've now developed alpha. Uh, we've been showing off some of that functionality at some of the shows we've been at recently. And then in CES and early January spoiler alert, there's going to be more, uh, to show, uh, there in we're going to be showing even more functionality of Sentinel as well.The next two is winning the business, uh, major commercial wins, and these are kind of like big, major victories. We said, initially back earlier this year we'd get three or less during calls. We doubled that to six and we just achieved. Uh, our fifth and six ones, uh, with those being Pollstar and Nvidia. So we kinda hit that increased goal.Uh, I don't think we're done winning yet for the year. You know, we haven't told the BD team to go home and, you know, take, uh, the rest of the November, December off, uh, brake, uh, commercial momentum on our side. And then how does that kind of all manifest itself in, in kind of, uh, what, what what's revenue expect from those wins?And from our perspective, um, we kind of ended 2020, uh, with a forward-looking order book. You know, the expected revenue over the lifetime of the business. We want at 1.3 billion at the beginning of the year, our goal was to grow that 40% this year. We then increased that to 60%. Uh, we'll do a final tally on December 31st with where we stand.But, um, I'm pretty confident based upon the momentum we have so far that we're going to kind of exceed that target. And then the fifth one is to end the year with more cash than we began at. We ended with 545 million. We begin near with porn 86. Well, on track for that. So the team's been doing an amazing job.We're very proud of them. Look, maybe, maybe we need to set the targets a, a little bit higher next year, just given the, how, how well the team is executed. Um, but very proud of the luminaire, our team here. You mentioned the Nvidia deal. Got to ask about that because that was the catalyst last week for you guys, you were selected for the video drive hyperemia on autonomous vehicle reference platform.Explain a little bit more about the, that that deal. What does it mean for women are? Yeah, and I, well, and I know that there's been a lot of noise out there because there's been a few other companies that have put out press releases with Nvidia and that how, you know, their sensor or whatever whatever's being incorporated.Here's why we're different. Here's why this is a big deal, which is we are now selected by Nvidia as their reference platform for the Hyperion drive system. And that's going to be ready to go in 2024 for production vehicles in according to Nvidia. So when Nvidia goes to an OEM and says, here's, NVIDIA's Hyperion autonomous drive platform, here's the sensor configuration.Here's this, here's the software that we built it upon. There's one light or company that is on that. You know, there there's a few camera radars, others, but there's one lighter company and that's us. And so they're going to OEMs with their autonomous platform and autonomous system and our lighters on it.And the recommending that this is the sensor configuration, including us, that these OEMs should use if they want to use invidious, autonomous, uh, Hyperion. So. So Tom, what are the challenges of, you know, being in charge of the financials, that company, when so much revenue and stuff is expected down the line.Um, but may not be there right now. Yeah. And look, this is, you know, going back to what I said earlier about the automotive industry is we have these, you know, we have several contracts, one. Um, you know, generally the SLPs are starting around the end of next year to call at the end of 2024. And so we need to put in place all this investment, the engineering, the R and D building out the manufacturing, uh, system and capital equipment for that building out supply chains.We got to make all that investment years in advance of when you're expecting to get that revenue. And so, you know, as the CFO, I have to balance making sure we're making those necessary investments so that we can execute flawlessly for our customers and, and get to where we want to get to, um, with making sure that we're not overspending being very disciplined.And at the same time, um, we want to kind of maintain that entre entrepreneurial spirit of the tech startup that has kind of been at the legacy of. We don't want to build, you know, a bureaucracy, a lot of fat into the system. And so we need to find that right balance, you know, sometime I need to be the bad guy internally in terms of saying no to certain spending and everything.Um, but look, we've, we've made a lot of investment this year. Um, you know, you can kind of see the investments we made in our financials. Um, you know, we've, we've brought on almost 300 people this year between full-time employees and consultants to help us grow. And so we just need to find that right balance that we have.All right. We have been using the, we work for our viewers and there's a question here in the chat, and that is a very loaded question. Uh, and I'm going to ask it and cow and Cal is asking about the comparison of the th the, the technology between LIDAR LIDAR and what Tesla is doing. Right. So I'll just bring the question up on the screen here right now.Uh, how does LIDAR compare to the camera's that Tesla uses in terms of costs? Uh, in terms of, uh, bulky LIDAR on vehicles, women are concentrate on commercial use is LIDAR capable of full self-drive. Like I said, big question a lot there, a lot of back and forth, um, uh, going back years with regards to this question, um, I'll just throw it to you, Tom.Yeah, well, it's, um, I think the essence of this question is Tesla is trying to make full Strout self-driving work with cameras only. And Ilan has been very public saying, you know, LIDAR is a fool's errand, or what have you, um, So a few replies to that. Number one is, uh, that's the only OEM that has made that, uh, that public stands.Every other OEM, uh, is using LIDAR to where they get to, uh, to where they want to get to be. And we're when we're talking to these OEMs, a lot of them want to leapfrog Tesla from a technology perspective. Um, they're finding challenging to do from an, from a purely B perspective, but from a Navy perspective, uh, there's been a lot of challenges that Tesla has faced the scrutiny, uh, from the industry and the regulators has increased.Uh, and so using LIDAR and using our package is a way for them to leap frog from their perspective. Uh, number two is we believe that there are a lot of parent limitations in camera and you're ultimately not gonna be. Camera is ultimately a 2d image technology. So if you see that part in my background there, you can't tell from the zoom call, how far it is away.You can take a bunch of pictures, you know, do a lot of computational work and estimate it. But at the end of the day, it's just an estimate and you're never going to have a ground truth. Understanding of how far all the objects in your field of Urry great thing about a laser. You can, if I had a laser pointer there or, you know, I could use it and tell me precisely how far away that part is.That is what LIDAR enabled. It gives you a real 3d GroundTruth understanding of the environment in front of you. And ultimately you're going to need that data in order to get to the significant improvements relative to human driver that are necessary in order to enable safe. Um, in terms of like, uh, you know, we, we kind of see all these ugly lidars, you know, I've heard things from the spinning KFC buckets to Lego cards.Uh, I don't have any pictures here in front of me. I encourage you to go to our website. You can kind of see some of the sleek designs, uh, that Volvo and some of our other car makers have done to kind of put it into the roof. Uh, and, uh, you know, ultimately we want to make that look, which we think looks leak in my opinion, kind of cool.Kind of like a badge of honor, uh, individual display that this car was. And I just pulled the long-term on the screen. I think it's a it's it's not controversial to say Tom, that investors got way too excited, too quickly, you know, uh, early on. Uh, but that being said, if you look at the far right hand, you can see that spike from last week.It's so it's, it's not as different to guys what has gone away because this stock is liable to do wild things on, on an Nvidia headline, for example. Right. So, um, I, but is that your take as well as like, you know, it's still early days and, and everyone needs to kind of slow a bit roll. Yeah. Look, we're focused here.As I mentioned earlier on the long-term value creation, um, it's kind of human nature to look at the, uh, short-term fluctuations in your stock prices. Here. We have a bright future here at Luminar. Um, executing successfully on our plan is going to drive significant shareholder value creation. Whether you bought this stock at 10.When we did our IPO, whether you bought it at, you know, 1920 bucks, wherever it is today, whether you bought it at, you know, $40 in change, which is our 52 week high executing on what we have in front of us is going to create a long, a lot of long-term shareholder value here. That's what we're focused on.We have the money plus a cushion to do that. We have the team, um, and you know, the level of talent we've been attracting to do that as well. Uh, and so, you know, you try to ignore the short-term volatility, focus on the long-term opportunities. Very confident in that, a couple of good ones here from the chat.We'll get to you quickly. Tony Jordan's asked me to go one. If, if your in the Nvidia, uh, suite that is being sold to OEMs and you are also selling to OEMs, are you aren't you competing against yourself? Um, We kind of look, you know, it's a good question. Uh, you know, we're working with Nvidia, they're designing us in there.We've announced the deal previously with Mobileye. Who's incorporating our lighter into that. We've announced deals in the past with Volvo and SAC that are incorporating our LIDAR into it. And so we want to maximize the, um, systems that we're on because that's going to maximize the chances of us winning the business so that it becomes a hedge.We win tails, we win, uh, type of scenario. And so we want to align ourselves with the industry leader. Um, that's just going to maximize not only the chances of our LIDAR being on the vehicle and, you know, hopefully our software too, but also that's just going to give us the, uh, significant competitive advantage.Uh, not only from the revenue we collect and the economies of scale we get, but also getting access to. You know, all that data in real time experience to allow us to continually, uh, of our pro. All right, now, the questions are coming in. We don't have that much time though. Dave, Fry's asking a good one, uh, as to why, uh, yesterday, uh, when I asked, um, you guys excluded Japan and Korea as your area of focus, that you're focusing on China, Europe and north America, specifically, um, Asians that are China, um, because look, it's, uh, uh, China is the biggest market over there.Uh, but we also see ample opportunities, uh, in Korea and Japan. Um, we actually, uh, have a couple people. We hired to go, uh, lead our Japan effort. And as soon as, uh, the COVID laws allow them to go there in the country, there'll be there. Um, and you know, we, we see some opportunities in Korea. Okay. All right.Uh, we even on the line with Tom Fenimore, he's the CFO of Luminari technologies, ticker L a Z R. Got a bunch of good one questions from the chat. Um, Tom, thanks so much for joining us today on mincing alive and, uh, again, a good quarter and, uh, congrats on that. And we'll be in touch and following the company going forward.Have a good one. Appreciate it. All right. Uh, okay. Uh, Shelly prompts a Shelly for me, reminding me that I did say that Luke Jacoby would be on the show to the academy, made an appearance. And I sort of in my, it w it was on the calendar. It was on the calendar. Uh, Shelly, Luke is here, but he is on the phone right now.He's always on the phone. That's his problem. He's literally on the phone all day. So I don't know if we'll be able to get Luke Jacoby on the show. If I can, I can. I would do my best. I can see him. I literally see him across the office. He's on the phone right now. Um, so I'm working on it, Shelly, I'm working on it, but that doesn't mean we don't have all the other guests.Cause we got two more guests joining that are actually here and, you know, being respectful, um, of their commitments. I'm like Luke Christian from Hertz is the CEO of the Tribeca trade group. And like I said, the guy's a pros pro when it comes to trading, when it comes to charts, let's get at, see from her time on the show right now, Christian, what's up, man.Hey, what's going on, Spencer, how you doing, doing fan tastic? How, how has your week been from a P and L standpoint? Uh, you know, not bad. I mean, I think, uh, you know, definitely took a step back, you know, the other day and, and, uh, cut some trades, but you know, the market has. Uh, you know, it just has been great over the last few weeks that, you know, to think that we're not going to get some type of a pullback or it's just going to go ups, you know, in line.And one of the words that I've been using a lot is just being realistic about this market. So, you know, uh, it took a little bit of a, to answer your question. It took a little bit of a step back this week on Wednesday, but this has been a Creek. There's been a great trading day so far. And, um, you know, I'm having a great, I had a great October and I'm having a great November so far.So knock on wood. It's just been a lot of trading opportunities. Uh, we've seen nice breadth expansion. So more areas of the market are participating, you know, particularly what we saw with small caps, uh, you know, for the last couple of weeks. And so, um, it's, it's been a nice, uh, market to, to be involved in.What do you think quickly, like this time of year as we head into, uh, Thanksgiving week, which is very, a very slow week. Um, and then December, obviously. With some exceptions it's typically a slower month of the year. Do you typically take a step back this time of year or do you like. Get more active. I, you know, I just basically follow the price action and what it's telling me, and if I'm seeing more signals, you know, I continue to kind of, uh, you know, go through my process, uh, and, and look at, um, you know, go through my homework after hours and, and go through scanning and so forth.And if I see more opportunities, then I I'm, I'm in the market. Now, if I go through, you know, regardless of what time of year it is, and I'm not seeing that many opportunities within sectors and, and, and just, you know, relative strength. And if some areas look exhausted, you know, then I may back off a little bit, but, um, you know, it's busy business as normal.And sometimes these weeks of Thanksgiving with the low volume can actually be quite fun. You know, I know some people, for example, like the, the day after Thanksgiving, you know, it's that day of the year, but there's, there could be some really wippy moves that happen. And, you know, if you're a retail trader, you don't know.You know, a huge volume for liquidity purposes, as long as you've got things moving. So what's nice about that day after Thanksgiving is if anybody has a trade to do, or if there's some type of news that happens over Thanksgiving, you know, you could really find some good trading opportunities. So it, it can be, uh, it can, and I, I say can be it's potentially because you just don't know every year, but it it's, it can be an it's potentially it could be a really fun trading day if you kind of come in the right way and, um, you know, are just kind of following whatever's moving on the tape because the other thing is too, sometimes that low liquidity can just mean that like one or two players out there, or just pushing a particular stock or are, are pushing a particular group and you can really make some nice money off of, uh, just day trading.Uh, while we're on the topic for disclosure, uh, two weeks from today, uh, I'll be, I'll take, take the day. So there you go. It's black Friday. I'd like to go to the mall and yes, I do. I'm not going to buy anything. Um, but I like to hang out with all the crazies for sure. And you gotta give a supply chain, you know, update in terms of that's actually what I'm doing and channel checks.Yes. There you go. That's what you're doing. You're not shopping you to homework for the show for sure. Good recovery. Good recover. Sure. Uh, okay. Um, if you want Chris and you can share your screen with us and, and we can reel through some charts here. If you have any questions in the chat, uh, drop them in there and we can take a look and see what Christian said, uh, things about them.Um, but in the meantime, you can just tell us what's on your way. Yeah, absolutely. And, and, um, you know, in a bunch of things, you know, what was kind of interesting yesterday after, um, you know, we saw some profit taking and some, some, a little bit of volatility on a, on Wednesday was just, you know, even though the S and P wasn't doing much, we started to see some areas of the market really participate in, you know, I obviously will pay attention to both.Right. I'll look to see what the important levels are in the S and P because I do want an overall. Healthy looking, uh, you know, index charts and so forth and, and just as backup to make sure that that the trend is acting the right way. But of course, if, uh, if we're starting to see some things really act well, uh, and I thought yesterday, there, there wasn't a lot of volume yesterday and there wasn't a lot of momentum in the second half of the day, but unlike, Hey, we're seeing some groups like the clean energy group, uh, like, um, there is the metal space that was absolutely on fire yesterday.The agriculture space was acting well. So as long as like, you know, if it's one of those days where it's really choppy. Yes. Like it was, uh, yesterday and there's nothing acting well, then it's like, huh. You know, You know, maybe we need a little bit more time for, you know, the, um, the healing of, of the, the price action.But I was like, wow, you know, things look pretty good in terms of momentum. Now, not everything was participating yesterday, but it was nice to see like three or four other areas of the market. The Chinese internets were acting very well yesterday, too. So, um, kind of goes in line with, with what I'm watching for today.And, and, uh, you know, there was a specific level and this is just a one hour S and P chart. Uh, just a quick explanation of my charts. I look at volume at price quite a bit. Um, I have on my screen, what's called, um, the market webs, which, which look at volume and price and put together significant resistance and support levels.So I get excited when we get over resistance. Um, so we managed to do that for this week kind of back to where we started a little bit in this range. And, um, yeah, and then we kind of just turns the sectors and what what's acting well, so. You know, we kind of w and we build off of that. So, yeah, I'm seeing some good opportunities, you know, in a couple of different, you know, high momentum areas of the, of the market.Um, the other thing that's been pretty consistent is I do pay attention a little bit to, um, to option activity. And they were really going after some names that had good earnings and. Spend a little bit of time just consolidating and this TTD, it was a real nice trade today. Um, roadblocks, which I got into yesterday, you know, kind of, I mean, isn't it funny that these charts look almost exactly the same.Uh, and I think the last time that I was on. I think we were like right in the beginning of earning season, somewhere around there, we were sort of in the brain, in the heart of earning season. Okay. Yeah, yeah. A couple of weeks ago. And one of the things that I said is that you're going to find what's exciting about earning season is not so much like, um, Putting money on trades and speculating, like which name is going to go up or down, but finding new opportunities that come out of, you know, that have really good earnings and really good price action.And I think like, you know, just as an example, these two names, roadblocks, which is up 9%, that wasn't really a name that I was like, Hey, this is going to be the name going, going forward. But it just happened to kind of fall into the theme of the metaverse and it had better than expected, uh, what monthly active users and this thing kind of sat back.You know, it really was tricky two days ago because there was a ton of call volume the day after earnings. And the next day it just fell flat on its face, but it didn't give up the trend. Um, and yesterday I started a position I added to it, um, in the middle of the day and I actually took off part of the position.And then, um, I'm being rewarded today by, by keeping a partial position on today. But. That's, what's kind of fun about this and, and same thing with TTD, which, you know, really has been a name that kind of got forgotten. Um, you know, it was for a little while, if you look at some of the tech of like last year, that was hot and, you know, Shopify, the trade desk were a couple of names, but the trade desk really went cold for a while.So there's nothing wrong with the name, you know, after going sideways for a while now, catching momentum and, and, uh, and breaking out. So I'm excited to see these types of opportunities. Um, all right. A few cigarettes in the chat I want to get to by blah, blah, blah. Yeah, let's go. You want to, and I could go through a couple other names because I don't, I like when it's more than, you know, a few different names participating, but another name that kind of caught my attention.And this is how I use option activity personally, is that. It could be an idea for me. Right. It's either it could be, Hey, I, you know, if I'm looking to day trade a little bit and the market momentum is pretty good, then I'll use the option activity for a little bit of momentum, like we did in trade desk this morning.And, um, and then something like this where I'm like, huh, this is interesting. Somebody's buying a little bit of calls. Um, and Moscow and I, and I looked at this chart and I said, well, Hey, this is a pretty nice little move. You know, this is another one that gapped up on earnings. Right. Settled in a little bit.And, um, you know, you, again, you have to be a little bit patient with these things, but, um, you know, now we see the calls, which is to me, just a little bit of a verification that an institution is, is perhaps interested in the name. And then we can kind of go from there. But that's particularly interesting is, is not so much the option.Into earnings, but the option flow after a name has reported and because institutions are going to get involved in, in, in some names there's no, there's no doubt about it, right? The names that they haven't been positioned in, I mean, roadblocks is you could see the volume difference in this name. So, you know, what we want to see is after name reports is to see those institutions that have may have been a little bit under positioned in a name now have to get involved in the name and then we can kind of ride the coattails of that.Um, uh, sorry, uh, half to them. This, this is our box. Uh, I'll put the tickets up on the screen here going forward. Um, let's do a couple of takeaways from the chat I asked for jiggly puff. Doc wants to know about PayPal every day. They asked him it's today. The bottom is today. The bottom. Well, here's the thing, right?Yeah. I mean, I think everybody wants to know that and everybody's wanted to know that now for life the last couple of weeks. Uh, so I'll give you my 2 cents about PayPal. Um, so number one, like when we started to hear about this, you know, story about the interest with, with, um, with Pinterest, right? The volume kind of gave some clues that the institutions were selling this thing.Right? So it doesn't matter. Like if you think it's a good body, what do you mean by that? Well, we'll look at the difference with the volume. Like this is, this is not retail. You know, this big volume is, is not retail. Right. And that's some, it depends. And in all seriousness, I mean, you had a big news event, a rumor rumor takeover of a huge social media company, right.I mean, that's a big news event. It was talked about all day on, on places like Benzinger and CNBC and Bloomberg, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, I don't know why. No. Well, I, you know, I think, you know, listening to your show, I think I heard recently that, um, and if it wasn't your show, I apologize. But I think retail flow used to be about like 10% of the average market or 15%.And I think that that's jumped up about like 10%. Right. So it's bigger than it used to be. Yeah. However institutions are still about somewhere around 75% of the overall. Right. And they are sitting too with, I mean, you know, that there's, that instituti

Expanding Your Search is very excited to have actor TC Stallings on the program!TC Stallings gave up a pro-football career to pursue an acting career. His film "War Room" took the #1 spot in America at the box office in 2015. Since then, TC has starred in over 20 films, 2 TV shows including the hit crime drama “Vindication”, has authored three books including his latest which is an autobiography of his life entitled “Eyes Fixed: My True Life Story”. He also helps aspiring Christian actors succeed in the entertainment industry without ever compromising their faith, through his online actor coaching program called “UNcompromised”. TC's #1 goal in life is to pursue his God-given purpose above anything and everything else, and he aims to encourage others to do the same.In our talk, TC and I discuss how he began his acting career and got his role on “Vindication,” and his online actor coaching program called “Uncompromised."*******Bio on our guest:T.C. Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television. T.C.'s desires shifted from football to acting in 2004, when he landed a spot on Animal Planet's King of the Jungle, a reality television show where he emerged as the season 2 champion. He then began a 4-year stint working with Russell Athletic as a fitness model. In 2011, T.C. made his feature film debut in the movie, "Courageous" where he portrayed the memorable character, "TJ". It was in 2015 however, that his career reached new heights with his break-out performance as "Tony Jordan" in the hit film, "War Room", which soared to #1 at the box office. He would later land a nomination for Best Actor for his lead role in "God's Compass", followed by a Best Actor win for his supporting role in "Unbridled". TC also found success in booking TV commercials, with two of them being featured during the 2016 Rio Olympics and the 2016 Super Bowl. In 2019, his production company, Team TC Productions & Purpose Studios, reached a milestone when he wrote, directed, and self-produced a documentary called "24 Counter: The Story Behind the Run", which received a film festival nomination for "Most Inspirational Documentary". T.C. is also a nation-wide brand ambassador for Clearplay, a filtering company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options. T.C. is a wide-ranging actor, a huge advocate for clean family entertainment, and enjoys creatively getting involved in philanthropic efforts around the world.Stopping for directions and links to our guest:*******Guest Website: https://tcstallings.lifeGuest Website: https://www.vindicationseries.comFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/realtcstallingsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/realtcstallingsTwitter: https://twitter.com/TCStallingsFacebookhttps://www.facebook.com/vindicationseriesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/vindicationseries*******Expanding your search and stopping for directions is a podcast for growing our circles of connections and knowledge together through positive conversations and encouraging communications.*******https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12985720https://facebook.com/expandingsearch/https://instagram.com/expandingsearch/https://twitter.com/expandingsearch/https://bit.ly/34ptz6yhttps://www.amazon.com/Brent-Bailey/e/B0849TKGWMhttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm8178665https://www.linkedin.com/in/revbrentbailey/Available oniHeartRadioApple PodcastsYouTubeRokuAppleTVFireTV*******License CCLI:Copyright License11183063 Size AStreaming LicenseCSPL045649 Size AMusic provided byhttp://BenSound.comSupport the show (https://directionchurch.churchcenter.com/giving)

It's time for a new Time Lord! - and could a New Zealander take up the Sonic Screwdriver and the key to the TARDIS? The BCC has confirmed Doctor Who star Jodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall will both leave the programme in 2022, leaving fans speculating as to who will be next. The Guardian has compiled a list of potentials, which included Kiwi comedian Rose Matafeo. Tony Jordan, a member of the Dr Who Appreciation society, spoke to Corin Dann.

Tony Jordan is the co-founder and president of the Parking Reform Network. He's been an advocate for parking reform for more than a decade. He talks with Joan, Armando, and Aaron about parking, why it's so bad, and how it could be so much better. The Stuff We Talked About What is parking reform?  Tony's … Continue reading E567 – Tony Jordan, Parking Reformer →

TC Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television. T.C. made his feature film debut in the 2011with the hit movie, "Courageous" leading to his break-out performance as "Tony Jordan" in the 2015 hit film, "War Room". He's also appeared in tons of shows, commercials and films, and has an exciting new Feature Film, My Brother's Keeper hitting theaters in March.   In 2020, T.C. also became an Executive Producer & Show Runner for the newly formed PAX-TV Network launching out of Dallas, Texas and he's the national brand ambassador for Clearplay, a company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options. T.C. is a wide-ranging actor, and a huge advocate for clean family entertainment .Learn more about TCLearn more about ClearPlayTC's Uncompromised Actor Coaching Program and CommunityTC's Podcast "TCS Live"Read TC's book "Eyes Fixed"Watch the My Brother's Keeper TrailerLike Comics? Godsend Faith-based UniverseFollow TC on FacebookFollow TC on InstagramFollow TC on TwitterLearn about PAX-TVTC's IMDB PageWatch the Trailer for TC's first big film: CourageousNostalgic? TC once won Animal Planet's King of the Jungle. Watch here!James 4: 13-14Psalms 139:16 Chester Goad and Jared Easley are co-hosts of the Film Fresh Podcast. Follow Chester on Twitter @chesterwgoad  Follow Jared on Twitter @jaredeasleyFollow Film Fresh on Twitter @filmfreshpod

TC Stallings delivers a superb performance in this gripping movie about a soldier returning home with PTSD. On top of that, he’s faced at home with the recent loss of his parents under mysterious conditions and his best friend’s involvement with dark side of the city. All comes to a head on the lawn of the local church he’s rejected most of his life. T.C. Stallings is a former professional athlete now finding success in film and television. After stunning football campaigns in both high school and college, T.C. went on to play professionally in the Arena, Europe, and Canadian leagues. Following his success in athletics, T.C.'s desires shifted to a career in film and television. In 2004, T.C. landed a spot on Animal Planet's King of the Jungle, a hit network reality television show in which he emerged as the season 2 champion. He then began a 4 year stint working with Russell Athletic as a fitness model. In 2009-after a successful Skype audition from the living room of his Louisville, KY home- T.C. made his feature film debut in the 2011 hit movie, "Courageous" portraying the memorable character, "TJ". Following this feat, T.C. gave up a successful personal training business in Louisville and headed for Hollywood. After a few months of auditioning, T.C. would land two commercials, followed by three more film roles. But T.C.'s career reached new heights with his break-out performance as "Tony Jordan" in the 2015 hit film, "War Room", which soared to #1 at the box office. He would later land a nomination for Best Actor for his lead role in "God's Compass", followed by a Best Actor win for his supporting role in "Unbridled". TC also found continual success in booking TV commercials, with two of them being featured during the 2016 Rio Olympics and the 2016 Superbowl. In 2019, his production company (Team TC Productions & Purpose Studios) reached a milestone when he wrote, directed and self-produced a documentary called "24 Counter: The Story Behind the Run", which received a film festival nomination for "Most Inspirational Documentary". In 2020, T.C. also became an Executive Producer & Show Runner for the newly formed PAX-TV Network launching out of Dallas, Texas. T.C. is also a nation-wide brand ambassador for Clearplay, a company with the mission of providing families with clean, wholesome entertainment options. T.C. is a wide-ranging actor, a huge advocate for clean family entertainment, and enjoys creatively getting involved in philanthropic efforts around the world.http://tcstallings.life/https://mbkfilm.com/

Tony & Jordan from the Culture Media team dive in on the murder of George Floyd, Black Lives Matter, and police brutality --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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Paul's guest this month is Tony Jordan, founder of Portlanders for Parking Reform, which is an example of a rare beast - a non-profit advocacy group dedicated to parking policy reform.  Find out more here. Support Reinventing Parking on Patreon. Follow Paul Barter on Twitter.

In conversation with television writer and creator of Red Planet Pictures Tony Jordan. To find out more information about this and my other interviews, please go to my website: www.beyondthetitle.co.uk www.facebook.com/beyondthetitle

In the second of two special editions of Talking TV, host Jake Kanter returns to interviews with First Dates executive Nicola Lloyd, writer Tony Jordan on Dickensian and unlocks the secrets of Storage Hunters UK with Sean Kelly.

Pact’s call for a moratorium on terms of trade reviews and its implications for Channel 4 take centre stage - plus the Talking TV verdict on Chris Evans’ Top Gear debut. Host Jake Kanter is joined by Lemonade Money creative director Faraz Osman and Kerfuffle managing director Steven D Wright scrutinise Pact’s reaction to John Whittingdale’s plans, and discuss the challenge of rebooting an iconic show in the face of a hostile press and instant Twitter judgements. Also on the agenda is our commission of the fortnight. News that Tony Jordan is preparing a BBC1 drama about Barbara Windsor prompts the question: will the recent crop of celebrity deaths usher in a new era of biopics? In the final half of the programme, the team cast a critical eye over a new BBC4 music format, comedian Rhod Gilbert’s quest to find the UK’s Best Part-Time Band, and the channel’s ‘slow TV’ 90th birthday tribute to the Queen, Handmade by Royal Appointment.

Tony talks about being a writer / producer and taking control of your own career. He also discusses the Red Planet prize and why he continues to support it. And of course we chat about writing; Life on Mars, Dickensian and Moving Wallpaper.

The new BBC drama series, Dickensian, sees Charles Dickens's most famous stories and characters co-existing on the same Victorian streets. John Wilson talks to Tony Jordan, the creator of the series.The German conductor Kurt Masur led both the London and the New York Philharmonic Orchestras and encouraged a peaceful reunification of Germany. Norman Lebrecht pays tribute to Masur who died at the weekend aged 88.Ron Howard has proved himself an extraordinarily diverse director, from his Oscar-winning A Beautiful Mind to Frost/Nixon, Apollo 13, Parenthood, Splash and Rush. His latest film, In The Heart of The Sea, starring Chris Hemsworth, Benjamin Walker and Ben Whishaw, he explores the true story that inspired Melville's Moby Dick.And if you're in need of some cultural inspiration this Christmas but have had enough of the obvious festive fare, Front Row have selected four arts experts to champion an alternative Christmas treat each day this week. Tonight, the art critic Waldemar Januszczak reveals his out of the ordinary Christmas image.

David Abraham’s grave warning about the future of Channel 4 and BBC3’s move online are put under the microscope in the latest edition of Talking TV. Broadcast editor Chris Curtis and Steven D Wright join host Jake Kanter in discussing the fortnight’s big headlines. Later in the show, writer and producer Tony Jordan tells all about his ambitious new BBC1 drama Dickensian. Finally, there are previews of E4 comedy drama Tripped and Stick Man, BBC1’s Christmas animation.

Describing himself as “not particularly religious”, Tony Jordan, one of Britain’s top scriptwriters and former EastEnders writer, was behind the BBC’s critically acclaimed The Nativity. The drama was... Things Unseen. For people who have a faith, and those who just feel there’s more out there than meets the eye.

Andrew Marr talks to the conductor Semyon Bychkov about Tannhauser, Wagner's tortured artist, out of place in conventional society. While the scientist Mark Miodownik takes a measure of the world, and asks 'Does size matter?' in this year's Royal Institution Christmas Lectures. Author Susan Hill ponders kindness, grief and miracles and the television screenwriter Tony Jordan forsakes EastEnders to take on 'the greatest story ever told', the Nativity. Producer: Katy Hickman.