The Running Effect Podcast

Straight out of Melbourne, Adam Spencer is bringing a new level of hunger and hustle to global middle-distance running.Adam is one of the brightest new stars in global middle-distance running. Raised in Melbourne, Australia, he started outas a promising soccer player before discovering his natural talent on the track as a teenager. Since then, Adam's rise has been nothing short of meteoric.At just 23 years old, Adam holds personal bests of 3:31.81 for 1500 meters, 1:46.84 for 800 meters, a blistering 3:52.70 in the indoor mile, and 7:40.38 for 3000 meters indoors.He's an NCAA All-American, Australian 1500m champion, and made global headlines in the 1500 meters at the Paris 2024 Olympics by making it to the repechage round.Beyond the records and medals lies a story of resilience, reinvention, and relentless curiosity. Adam has gone from overcoming injuries and setbacks as a junior to standing on the world's biggest stages, all while following a unique and thoughtful training philosophy that's fueled his breakthrough.Today, Adam is based between Melbourne and international training camps, with his sights set on the World Championships and the LA 2028 Olympics. He's also inspiring the next generation of runners as a mentor and advocate for mental health.If you don't already know him, here is the Melbourne Miler himself, Adam Spencer.In today's conversation, Adam takes me through his successful years in the NCAA, his goals and ambitions for the future, coming from another country into the NCAA system, his goals for Tokyo if he qualifies, and much more. Tap into the Coach Adam Spencer Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

What happens when you blend world-class wisdom with small-town humility?When a coach chooses joy over burnout, purpose over pressure, yet still builds champions from high school tracks to the Olympic stage?You get Coach Mike Scannell.Yes, he's the architect behind Grant Fisher's rise: from Arizona high school prodigy to Olympic double bronze medalist and six-time American record holder. But Scannell's impact goes far beyond one legendary partnership.Before coaching, he was THE athlete. A 2:16 marathoner. A 29:02 10K guy. A two-time Olympic Trials qualifier who raced alongside some of the best of his era. He won the inaugural Phoenix City Marathon in 1987 and helped the U.S. win the 10K team title in 1988. Even into his 40s, he was still on the podium at the USATF Cross Country Championships. What makes Scannell different isn't just his resume, it's his philosophy: trust over control, long-term growth over short-term gains. Whether it's building state championship programs at Powers, Brophy Prep, or Hamilton High School, or developing over 38 individual state champions, he leads with a mindset that centers athlete happiness, not just performance.His coaching record speaks for itself: Footlocker and Dream Mile national titles, multiple state records in the 1600, Olympic Trials qualifiers, and Olympians. Mike Scannell is more than a coach. He's a builder of people, a strategist with soul, and a living masterclass in what it means to chase the long game.In today's conversation, we dive deep into the journey, philosophy, and mindsets of Coach Scannell. We his athletes, his training, his ideas, and so much more. This one was a treat. Don't miss the free wisdom handed out. Tap into the Coach Mike Scannell Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

There are legends in running, and then there are people who make legends possible.Returning to the show is Deena Kastor: Olympic medalist, former American record-holder in the marathon, and one of the most decorated distance runners in U.S. history.But beyond the stats and finish lines, Deena's journey has always been rooted in resilience, reinvention, and deep mentorship.Today, she's here to reflect on the recent passing of her coach and lifelong mentor, Dr. Joe Vigil—a towering figure in American distance running who helped shape not just her stride, but her spirit. Deena has already shared powerful words about that emotional goodbye, the lessons he passed on, and how his voice still echoes through every run she takes. Now, we get to go even deeper into that story: one built on trust, transformation, and legacy.We'll also celebrate the iconic moments that defined her career: from that unforgettable bronze medal in Athens, to her blazing 2:19:36 American marathon record, and countless victories across the track, roads, and cross-country course.This conversation is a tribute to greatness: in performance, in mentorship, and in what it means to carry someone's legacy forward.In today's conversation, Deena pays tribute to her coach in his passing, the lessons she's learned from him, untold stories from Coach Vigil's life, the legecy he left, and so much more. This one was touching and inspiring all at once. Be blessed by hearing about the life of a man whose life transformed the sport you love so dearly. Tap into the Deena Kastor Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

While other pros are napping in NormaTecs, Matthew Marquardt is doing rounds in med school while still torching Ironman courses. Matthew is a two-time Ironman champion who just shattered the Lake Placid course record with a blistering 7:50:08. A month earlier, he dominated Ironman Cairns, closing the marathon with a fearless 2:39:47.And here's the kicker, he's also a full-time medical student at Ohio State.That's right, while most pros are recovering with fancy gadgets, Matthew least Marquardt is on hospital rotations. He's up at 4 a.m., trains between cases, and still finds a way to run down world-class fields.What makes his story even more compelling? He comes from an elite swimming background. Think state records and Ivy League titles at Princeton. and has made one of the most seamless transitions into professional triathlon we've seen. He races with initials of loved ones impacted by cancer etched on his bike. And he's deeply committed to using sport not just as performance, but as a platform for purpose.From cancer advocacy to med-school resilience, Matthew's story is one of purpose-driven performance.In today's conversation, Matthew takes me through his meteoric rise in traitholin, training 25-30 hours a week while being a full-time med student, his ambitions for the future, his desire to get into cancer research, and wisdom for the next generation.Tap into the Matthew Marquardt Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Alex Ostberg is back again, ready to unpack the powerful, and often overlooked, mental side of training. In this July roundup, Alex breaks down the four most impactful lessons from his newsletter The Rundown: covering everything from tapering tweaks to placebo power.If you've ever second-guessed your workouts, tried to copy what the pros are doing, or sabotaged yourself before race day—this  episode is your antidote. First up, Alex covers why copying elite runners can backfire, and how to train for yourself, not someone else's blueprint. Next, he discusses the placebo effect redefined, how it's not a trick, but a training tool rooted in belief and biology. Then it's onto the taper trap: how overthinking and last-minute adjustments ruin weeks of hard work (and how to stop). Lastly, he examines the hidden role of mindset across every training phase, and how to build routines that boost performance from the inside out. Alex is ready to show how success isn't about replication, it's about personalization; that belief isn't fake; it's a real driver of results; and how trusting the plan matters just as much as writing a good one.Alex is a former D1 All-American, coach, and creator of The Rundown, one of the most practical and honest newsletters in running. His approach blends elite-level insight with grounded, actionable strategies every runner can use.Tap into the Alex Ostberg Rundown Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-The Science of a Taper-How To Stop Sabotaging Your Taper-The Placebo Effect Isn't A Trick – It's A Tool-Don't Copy The Winner-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

If you follow high school distance running, you already know the buzz is real.Caden Leonard has emerged as one of the most dominant prep runners in the country, and his résumé is growing almost as fast as his closing kick.Let's start with the highlights: he's a two-time Texas 6A Cross Country State Champion; he was the 2025 Texas 6A State Track “Double Gold” winner in the 1600m and 3200m; he came in 2nd place at the Brooks PR Invitational, clocking an impressive 8:50.22 for two miles; he came in 3rd place at Nike Cross Nationals, earning All-American honors; and was back-to-back Gatorade Texas Cross Country Player of the Year.And when it comes to personal records? Caden's stats speak for themselves: he's run 4:04 in the mile; 8:50 in the two-mile; 14:33 in the 5,000m (Cross Country); and 14:19 in the 5,000m on the track.What makes Caden's story even more compelling is how he runs. Not just fast, but smart. He's been described as “a surgeon on the course,” known for his surgical precision in pacing, tactics, and race-day execution. Within that racing tactician, there's a young man driven by purpose, humility, and a clear mission: to win—and grow—in every sense.Caden is getting ready to transition to the University of North Carolina, so this is a prime time to check in with him and see where his head is at.In today's conversation, Tap into the Caden Leonard Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E SNORDVPN DEAL: https://nordvpn.com/podcast/?coupon=runningeffect&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_term=&utm_content&utm_campaign=off910&utm_source=aff71451-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

At 15, Sam Ruthe is breaking records and shattering expectations.With a jaw-dropping 3:58.35 mile, he became the youngest human ever to break four minutes, vaulting himself into the global spotlight.But if you know his story, none of this feels like a fluke.Running is in Sam's blood.His grandfather was a Commonwealth Games steeplechaser.His parents? Both competitive runners.You can't fake that kind of DNA.The stuff he has accomplished outside of just the mile already are dumbfounding:In November of 2024 he broke the New Zealand U17/U18 3000m record (with a time of 8:09.68).On February 1 of this year he won the senior national 3000m title in 7:56.18, becoming the youngest ever to do so.On February 9 of this year he ran 3:41.25 in the 1500m, which was faster than Jakob Ingebrigtsen did at the same age.On March 9 of this year he went toe-to-toe with Sam Tanner at the NZ Senior Champs, tying in 3:44.31 in the 1500m.And then on March 19 he blew past the four-minute mile barrier with a 3:58.35.And those are just the headlines.In 2025 alone, he clocked 1:50.57 in the 800m, 3:39.17 in the 1500m and 7:56.18 in the 3,000m.These aren't “great for his age.”They're just great.Full stop.Sam is humble, calculated, and deeply thoughtful—the kind of athlete who makes you rethink what's possible at any age.If you coach, compete, or love seeing the future before it's fully arrived — don't miss this one.In today's conversation, Sam takes me through his training, mindset, and ambitions.We go into him being the youngest person to ever break 4 minutes in the mile, training with professional runners, and so much more.Remember the name.Tap into the Sam Ruthe Special.If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review!I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen.If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W N O T E SThe Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rsBUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.runOur Website: https://therunningeffect.runTHE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQMy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=enTake our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Marco Langon went from prepping meals in a back kitchen to torching NCAA record books as one of the fastest middle-distance runners in collegiate history.We're talking 3:33.38 in the 1500m (2nd-fastest in NCAA history); 3:54.60 in the mile; 7:36.87 in the 3,000m; and 13:14.11 in the 5,000m. And he is still a junior at Villanova.But the stats are just the start. Marco's a 2025 NCAA 5000m bronze medalist (13:21.17), a multiple-time All-American(indoor, outdoor, and cross country), and the anchor of Villanova's record-breaking 4×Mile relay at the Penn Relays (15:51.91). He's also a 3-time Big East 5000m champ, each with record times, and he brought home a World XC U20 bronze with Team USA in 2023.Currently ranked Top 3 in Villanova history across four distances (1500, mile, 3,000m, and 5,000m), he's running times that prove he may be a serious player for many years to come. Oh, and he just made history off the track too: Marco became the first NCAA track athlete to sign with Diadora, using his NIL deal to help set himself up for the future.And now, the USATF Outdoor Championships (July 31–Aug 3, Hayward Field) could be his next launching point, and maybe even to Worlds in Tokyo.From the kitchen to the track, Marco's story is pure fire. In today's conversation, Marco walks me through his remarkable journey and coming out of great adversity growing up as a kid, going to Villanova on a full scholarship, and what that meant to him, what motivates him, why everyone has doubts, why he's so honest, and so much more.This is a must-listen to episode. Tap into the Marco Langon Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

From shattering age-group records before most kids knew how to pace a 400, to stepping onto the Olympic stage with grace, grit, and God-given speed, Brandon Miller's journey is nothing short of electric.At just 13 years old, he clocked a jaw-dropping 1:56 in the 800m. By 14, it was 1:51. A middle school phenom who didn'tjust peak early, he kept accelerating toward greatness.High school? Dominant. Eight straight AAU Junior Olympic titles, Gatorade National Track Athlete of the Year, and mile splits that left jaws on the track.Then came Texas A&M, where he stamped his name on the NCAA with an indoor 800m title, a World U20 best in the 600 (with a time of 1:15.49), and a bronze at Nationals. The breakthrough? Third place in the U.S. Championships in 2022. And by 2024, he was in Paris, not just to watch, but to compete with the best mid-distance runners in the world, reaching the semifinals in the 800m. Fast forward to this season, he's now running professionally with the Brooks Beasts Track Club, under coach Danny Mackey, putting up wild numbers like a 1:43.52 in the 800, and a fresh 3:35.27 in the 1500. From a teenage prodigy to a global contender, Brandon's story is about more than speed. So get ready to go beyond the stopwatch, as we chat with the mind that has shaped one of America's most electrifying middle-distance talents.In today's conversation, Brandon takes me through his mindset, lessons from training with Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone and Josh Kerr, making the Olympics, growing up in a competitive household, his ambitions to medal at World's this year, and advice for the next generation.This one is an all-timer. Don't miss one of my favorite conversations from this year. Tap into the Brandon Miller Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

If you follow ultrarunning, you've probably heard the name Caleb Olson recently. In 2025, he broke through in a big way, winning the Western States 100 in 14:11:25, the second-fastest time ever on that iconic course.But his rise wasn't sudden. Raised in the Seattle area, Caleb was an All-ASUN runner at Liberty University, with PRs of 3:51 in the 1500m and 29:11 in the 10,000m. He entered the ultra world in 2018 and has built his career on quiet consistency and smartcoaching.Now running for the Nike ACG team, working full-time as a software developer, and adjusting to life as a new dad, Caleb is hitting his stride. In the last two years, he's racked up major results. In 2023 he got his Golden Ticket at the Grindstone Ultramarathon; in 2024 he came in 5th at Western States in his debut, while also securing 2nd at the Madeira Island Ultra-Trail 85K; and then in 2025 he set a course record during his win at Transgrancanaria in a time of 12:17:25.This led to his historic victory at Western States this past July.Trained by Jack Kuenzle and shaped by a background in mountaineering and triathlon, Caleb has become one of the most versatile and mentally tough athletes on the trail scene today.In today's conversation, Caleb takes me through his win at Western States, all that went into it, how he handles doubts and builds confidence, his crazy NIKE shirt he wore that broke the internet, being a new dad, what is next for him, and so much more.Tap into the Caleb Olson Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Pierce Showe is redefining what consistency, conviction, and calling look like in the world of ultra-endurance running.He just broke the Guinness World Record for most consecutive half marathons on a treadmill—running 13.1 miles every single day for 125 days straight—and he's here to talk about what it took, and why it mattered.As a running coach and motivational content creator, Pierce is on a mission that's as physical as it is spiritual.Driven by faith, discipline, and a deep sense of purpose, he's showing the world that you don't need a podium to be powerful, you just need a reason that moves you.But let's be clear: Pierce has landed on those podiums, too.His ultra-running resume speaks volumes: 1st place at the Miami 100 (100-mile race) in 21:23:00 (2024); 1st place at the Coyote Trail Run (50-mile trail race) in 9:54:59 (2023); 3rd place at the Blazin' Summer Sufferfest (54 km) in 6:12:06 (2024).His personal records are strong: 21:23:00 for 100 miles; 10:41:48 for 100k; and 9:54:59 for 50 miles.From battling dark mental stretches mid-race to climbing onto a treadmill before dawn, Pierce is here to share what keeps him grounded, what fuels his discipline, and how he's turning mileage into meaning.From the trail to the screen, Pierce isn't just building endurance, he's looking to build impact.And through every step, he proves that transformation doesn't start with the legs.It starts with belief.In today's conversation, Pierce takes me through this wild endeavor and adventure, the crazy stories that come with breaking a world record, what comes next for him, why he wears a "Jesus is King" shirt, the power of consistency, and lessons he's learned along the way.Tap into the Pierce Showe Special.If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review!I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen.If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Sondre Guttormsen not only cleared six meters, but he launched past expectations, limits, and borders, and is considered one of the best to ever do it in the world of pole vault.He's a European champion, a two-time Olympian, a three-time NCAA champion, and one of the elite few in pole vault's six-meter club.In 2023, he made history as the first-ever Norwegian to win the European Indoor Championships, clearing 5.80 m with zero misses. Two years later, he backed it up with a bronze medal at the 2025 European Indoors, going even higher at 5.90 m.In the NCAA, he collected three titles (indoor champion in 2022 and 2023, and outdoor champ in 2022). In March 2023, he tied the collegiate indoor record at 6.00 m, joining the sport's most exclusive club.He's competed on the biggest stage as well: a two-time Olympian, reaching the final in Paris 2024 and finishing 8th.But that's just the surface.He's been through his share of adversity on the way to the top. Fresh off that European gold, he flew 11,000 miles across time zones on no rest, and still tied the NCAA indoor record. At the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, he suffered a quad injury during qualification, missing out on the final. Four years later, he came back stronger to make the final in Paris.This is a front-row seat to one of the most relentless minds in track and field.In today's conversation, Sondre walks me through his legendary career, the ups, downs, and everything in-between. Look, I know nothing about Pole Vaulting, so this was a masterclass in the sport from one of the best himself. Expect to learn all of the ins and outs of the sport and ways Sondre is trying to become one of the greatest to ever do it. Tap into the Sondre Guttormsen Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

PSA: the audio on this is weird. We have no clue why it's like this, but I would rather release then it never see the light of day. He went from Rapid City to Hayward Field. From high school phenom to NCAA standout. And now, toeing the line with the best in the world, Simeon Birnbaum is bridging the levels in a way few athletes do.In his return to the show, we catch up with Simeon just 24 hours after his electric 3:56.64 mile at the Prefontaine Classic—his first real taste of pro racing on one of the sport's biggest stages.This isn't a rehash of what you already know. We're looking ahead: what it felt like lining up against Diamond League vets, how that race taught him more than any workout ever could, and why he's hungrier than ever to chase greatness at the highest level.The journey that brought him here is important, though: like the 3:57.53 mile he ran as a high school senior (and the 3:59.51 he clocked as a junior), the 1:47.96 800m speed he still carries, and the 3:37.02 1500m PR he dropped this spring at Oregon Twilight. Add in his 13:31.87 5000m from Big Tens (a meet record), and you're looking at one of the most versatile young talents in U.S. distance running. He came in 7th in the 1500m at NCAA outdoors in June of 2025. From his days winning 13 South Dakota state titles and earning 2023 HS Boys Athlete of the Year, to bouncing back from early setbacks in his freshman year and finishing 3rd at NCAAs in the 1500m, Simeon's story is just getting started.Whether you're a high schooler dreaming big or a fan of the sport tracking the next American great, this is the kind of conversation you'll want in your earpods for your next long run.In today's conversation, Simeon gives me a deep dive look into his Sophomore year. We dicuss the tactics, training, and races that made it successful. We walk through his first-ever NCAA Outdoor Championships, running the Pre-Classic, and his ambitions for domination in the future.Simeon Birnbaum is on the podcast. Don't miss it. Tap into the Simeon Birnbaum Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

This isn't just a running interview. It's a front-row seat to what greatness sounds like.Josh Kerr is the reigning 1500m World Champion, an Olympic silver (Paris 2024) and bronze medalist (Tokyo 2020), and the fastest Brit of all time, stopping the clock at a jaw-dropping 3:27.79 in the 1500m at the 2024 Olympics in Paris.And his résumé doesn't stop there. Josh's current personal bests include: 3:27.79 in the 1500m outdoor (British record); 3:45.34 in the outdoor mile; 7:30.14 in the indoor 3,000m (Scottish indoor record) and 8:00.67 in the 2-Mile indoor short track (a World Best). From breaking NCAA records at the University of New Mexico to stunning the world in Budapest and Paris, Josh has built his career on intent, aggression, and an unshakable belief in his process.He's not about fluff. He's about focus. And whether it's skipping warmups or setting world bests, he's never afraid to do it his way.Josh has much to say about the mindset behind the medals, the rivalries that keep him sharp, and the hunger that still drives him, even while he's already at the top.He isn't here to play it safe. He's here to take over.In today's conversation, Josh takes me deep into his mindset, chase for greatness, parts of his journey that go untold, his desire to be the best, rivalries, what you can do to become a better runner today, and so much more.Tap into the Josh Kerr Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rsAlex Ostberg is back to cut through the noise and get straight to what actually matters for smarter, healthier, and more effective training. This month's theme? Train with awareness, not ego.First, Alex wrote about not chasing gains at the expense of your body. Top athletes play defense first. Solid sleep, real food, and smart recovery aren't optional, they're non-negotiable. If you're always flirting with injury, you're not training. You're barely hanging on.Next, he examined the plate. If it's low on carbs or protein, you're killing your recovery and setting yourself up for a setback. What you eat says everything about how ready you are to train hard, and stay healthy doing it.Then he wrote about the myth of precision. Pace, mileage, VO₂ max, macros…they're helpful, but they're not gospel. Training isn't about hitting perfect numbers. It's about responding to what your body's telling you today.To close out June, he examined how your body always speaks first. That tightness, that fatigue, that off mood? Don'tignore it. The best runners don't push through red flags, they pivot.One month, four takeaways, and one big truth: better results come from fewer mistakes. Let's make training something that builds you up, not breaks you down.In today's conversation, we break it all down. Don't miss the opportunity to become a better runner. Tap into the Alex Ostberg Rundown Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Paityn Noe has gone from being an injury-plagued freshman to one of the NCAA's most electrifying distance runners, redefining success with speed, resilience, and purpose.After a turbulent freshman year marked by injury and setbacks, Paityn didn't just bounce back, she transformed, clocking a blazing 31:36.91 to break Arkansas' 10,000m record, becoming All-American in the 10,000m and 5,000m outdoors,and finishing 4th at NCAA Outdoors.Her resume reads like a breakout-year checklist: she ran 15:11.27 in the 5000m; 8:47.17 in the 3000m; she finished in 7th place at NCAA Cross Country Nationals; and she earned All-American honors in the 3,000m and 5,000m indoors.But behind the accolades is a story of mindset, discipline, and a radically honest approach to fueling and recovery. Paityn has been candid about how embracing nourishment, faith, and joy became the foundation for her breakthrough. Now, she's on a mission to change how young athletes think about performance.Paityn's discussion is equal parts blueprint and inspiration; an inside look at what it takes to turn adversity into acceleration.In today's conversation, Paityn takes me through her NCAA performances from this indoor and outdoor seasons; her 7th place finishes at the 2024 NCAA XC Championships, handling setbacks/injuries her freshman year, her ambitions for the future, her thoughts on NIKE's Breaking4 project, and so much more.Tap into the Paityn Noe Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Andreas Almgren went from nearly quitting the sport to redefining European distance running.The Swedish phenom's career began with a 1:45.59 in the 800m before a cascade of devastating injuries nearly ended it all. We're talking stress fractures, torn muscles, and years of physical setbacks that forced Andreas to rethink everything, from his training philosophy to his identity as an athlete.What followed is one of the most remarkable reinventions in modern track history.Andreas had to endure a mental and physical shift that included trading middle-distance intervals for long runs, double-thresholds, and five-hour bike weeks. The countless hours of work transformed him into a record-breaking force. His stats say it all: 3:32.00 in the 1500m (Swedish Record); 12:44.27 in the 5,000m (European Record); 26:52 in the 10,000m (Swedish Record); 26:53 in the road 10,000m (European Record); and 59:23 in the half marathon (becoming the first Swede under 60 min). Whether you're coming back from injury, building toward your breakthrough, or just chasing the edge of performance, this man showed one example of a blueprint for resilience, reinvention, and world-class excellence.Andreas went from shattered bones to shattering records.In today's conversation, Andreas takes me deep into his training, the double threshold method, how much he runs per week, what he eats, how slow his easy days are, and even lessons from training with Jakob Ingebrigtsen. We also dive into his recent race performances and his goals for the World Championships. Tap into the Andreas Almgren Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Austen Dalquist is not your typical miler. He's an All-American from the University of Arkansas, a USATF Colorado Mile Champion, and a 3:41 guy in the 1500, but his journey hasn't been defined by times alone.After battling personal health challenges, including an eating disorder and vocal cord dysfunction, Austen did what few dare to do: he stayed in the sport. He rebuilt from rock bottom, leaning on faith, community, and quiet resilience to stage a comeback that's as inspiring as it is unfinished.Now as a pro based in Boulder, Austen is writing his most compelling chapter yet, running 1:48 for 800m, 3:53 in the mile, 7:45 for 3,000m, and 13:36 in the 5,000m. And it was all done in a single season!In today's episode, we unpack his journey from high school prodigy to college standout, through setbacks and redemption, to where he stands now, which is on the cusp of his best chapters yet.So whether you're running through a storm or chasing your own breakthrough, this one's for you. In today's conversation, Austen takes me through his radical new training system, joining Tinman Elite v2, setting PRs and what he attributes that to, how you can get faster, and so much more. Austen is the man. I always love my conversation with this guy. Tap into the Austen Dalquist Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Lexy Halladay-Lowry is chasing the clock while rewriting the record books.With an indoor mile PR of 4:31, a blistering 8:40 in the 3,000, and a sub-15 in both the indoor and outdoor 5,000m, Lexy is one of the fastest ever to do it in NCAA history.She's an 8-time All-American, a two-time NCAA cross country team champion, and the current No. 2 in the nation in the steeplechase after clocking 9:08 and finishing runner-up at the 2025 outdoor championships.From breaking five minutes in the mile as a seventh grader in Idaho to rising through the NCAA ranks, she has been on a steady rise.She was 14th in the 2025 cross country championships and 2nd and 3rd in this year's indoor 5,000m and 3,000m.She holds multiple school records at BYU, plays the violin, studies public health, and made history as the first NCAA runner to ink a NIL deal with Kiprun.There is much to unpack with Lexy: her Olympic dreams, her process for building championship poise, and what it takes to keep rising when the pressure hits hardest.In today's conversation, Lexy walks me through her remarkable NCAA performance, all that led up to that performance, inside her training and mindset with BYU, her plans for her future and turning professional, and so much more.This is an inside look at one of the greatest to ever do it at the NCAA level for the steeplechase.Tap into the Lexy Halladay‑Lowry Special.If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review!I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen.If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W   N O T E S– The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs– BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run– Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run– THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ– My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠– Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Hans Troyer is the epitome of raw talent meeting ruthless resilience.From a near-collapse in the desert to record-breaking dominance, his story is one of fearless grit, second chances, and an audacious leap: from college steepler to 100K trail crusher.In just over a year, Hans has gone from collegiate standout to ultramarathon phenom: winning national titles, smashing course records, and landing podiums at some of the biggest races in the U.S. He's the 2024 USATF 50-mile national champion, a 2025 Canyons 100K Golden Ticket recipient, and a pro for Altra and Hyperlyte Liquid Performance. His PRs are wild: 3:19 in the 50k, 5:16 for 50 miles, and 7:45 for 100k.But his life isn't just one long highlight reel.There's the hospitalization that nearly ended his season. The comeback that turned heads. The quirky fueling rituals. And somehow, in between elite racing, he's juggling grad school, coaching, and content creation.The mini-documentary “The Kid” on YouTube captures the chaos, recovery, and relentless drive that define him, and is absolutely worth a watch. Hans is fast, fearless, and full of heart. And we're pumped to have him on the show today.In today's conversation, Hans takes me through his remarkable journey thus far as an ultra-marathoner; his wild training tactics include "car saunas", his goal to win Western States at just 25yrs of age, his ambitions for the future, his thoughts on Backyard Ultras and so much more.Tap into the Hans Troyer Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

From humble hustle to steeplechase sensation, James Corrigan is rewriting the script.Born in Los Angeles and now a force at Brigham Young University, James has quickly made his mark in the 3000-meter steeplechase. In just the past year, he placed third in the U.S. Olympic Trials, secured his Olympic standard in a last-chance race at the Penn Relays, represented Team USA in Paris, and most recently, he became the NCAA Championwith a blistering 8:16 performance.We're looking at a mission-serving, faith-centered student of mechanical engineering who has managed to balance it all (Olympic pressure, NCAA podiums, and viral "Sunday Night Live" faith content) while staying grounded and inspiring a generation of young runners.He juggles, he hurdles, and he races for something bigger.This is the story of resilience, belief, and barrier-breaking speed.James Corrigan is in The Running Effect house. And he's just getting started.Let's get into it.In today's conversation, James takes me through his NCAA title, his training leading into it, training with Olympic Medalist Kenneth Rooks, his mindset going into USA's, being married and a dad while in college, and much more.This is an inside look into the mind of one of the best runners not just in the NCAA, but in the country.Tap into the James Corrigan Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Sixty-one marathons in sixty-one days: From the southern border of Germany to the northern sea, Aleksander Lingauer covered the entire distance on his own.No sponsors. No shortcuts. Just a backpack, a belief, and the stubborn will to see it through.Aleksander is an endurance athlete and writer, and the mind behind Project 61, a solo mission to run the length of Germany, one marathon a day, for two straight months. But his story isn't just about distance, it's about what happens when no one's watching. About walking away from millions to protect something deeper. And about the kind of training no one puts on social media—the alleyway push-ups, the quiet breakdowns, the handwritten letters from the far edges of Europe.He's now writing his first book, a raw account of his 419-day solo hike across the continent.Alexander is taking the steps to explore the space where discipline meets obsession, where modern masculinity meets vulnerability, and what it costs to chase something real in a world that moves fast and forgets even faster.If you're building something hard, trying to stay steady in the noise, or looking for proof that grit still matters, then this episode is for you.Let's get into it. In today's conversation, Aleksander takes me through his wild physical adventures, what drives him to do these things, crewing the BPN Last Man Standing Race for Zach Pogrob and Kim, his ambitions for the future, and how to live for more.Aleksander is 1 of 1. And this conversation was very introspective in the best of ways.  Tap into the Aleksander Lingauer Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Today's guest knows endurance—on the trail, in public service, and in life.Congressman Mark DeSaulnier of California has run 23 marathons, including Boston, New York, Napa, and even Paris.A former lacrosse player turned lifelong runner, Mark once pursued a sub-3-hour marathon while simultaneously trying to bench press twice his bodyweight. He came heartbreakingly close—twice clocking a 3:04—and carried that same grit with him into politics, business, and recovery from a life-threatening illness.In March 2020, Mark fell during a run in D.C. and sustained broken ribs. What followed was a terrifying cascade: a damaged spleen, undiagnosed pneumonia, organ failure, and five weeks in the ICU—four of them on a ventilator. His odds of survival? Just 10 percent; one doctor told his sons he wouldn't make it. But he beat them.Now serving in his 11th year in Congress, Rep. DeSaulnier brings that same sense of perseverance to his work on transportation, education, and mental health. He currently serves as Ranking Member of the House Ethics Committeeand is a senior member of the Education & the Workforce Committee.But this episode isn't about politics. It's about what happens when we lace up and head out the door—what running teaches us, what it heals, and how it transforms who we are.In today's conversation, Mark takes me through his running journey and pursuits, insights from his 23 marathons, running a 3:04 marathon back in the day, becoming known as the “running politician,” how he used to train back in the day, and how running saved his life - literally. Tap into the Representative Mark DeSaulnier Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

What drives a 23-year-old to run seven marathons... on seven continents... in just seven days?Today's guest isn't just an endurance athlete—he's a human experiment in grit, creativity, and storytelling. Wyatt Moss has run a marathon in all 50 states, built a woodworking business to fund the journey, and picked up over 100,000 followers along the way—not just for the miles he runs, but for the life he's building while doing it.In early 2025, Moss participated in the World Marathon Challenge, running seven marathons on seven continents in seven consecutive days. His completion times ranged from 4:18:48 to 6:35:22, showcasing his resilience and adaptability.In 2024, Moss completed a marathon in each U.S. state within a single calendar year, culminating with the Honolulu Marathon in December. He financed this endeavor through his woodworking business and documented the journey on social media, amassing over 100,000 followers.From blisters and jet lag to business strategy and content creation, Wyatt is a maestro in mental endurance and making your passion pay for itself.In today's conversation, Wyatt takes me through his wild physical pursuits, his mindsets behind them, how he has become more self-aware, his wild experiences like running a marathon in every state last year and doing the World Marathon Challenge, and shares insights into his next biggest challenge.This podcast is next level. Tap into the Wyatt Moss Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

What happens when you combine deep science with real-world results—and package it all in a way that actually makes sense to young athletes? You get Kelsey Poulter.In today's episode, we're joined by the founder of Next Level Athletes, a sports nutrition expert who has quickly become one of the most trusted voices in the performance space. With a background in Exercise Physiology and a skyrocketing online presence that's grown from 2,000 to over 450,000 followers in just over a year, Kelsey is proof that authenticity, clarity, and results still win.Kelsey is on a mission to help athletes—from high school hopefuls to pros in the MLB—turn food into a performanceweapon. She believes nutrition is wildly underutilized in sports and calls it the “separator” that most athletes are missing. Kelsey likes to talk about how elite outcomes require elite actions—often the boring, consistent ones no one wants to talk about. In this episode she dives into the real difference between eating for general health and eating for performance, why sugar and carbs are absolutely essential for athletes, and how to rethink popular nutrition trends like skipping breakfast, cutting out food groups, or obsessing over seed oils. Whether you're a coach, a parent, or an athlete chasing your potential, this episode is packed with perspective-shifting advice that can help you level up—without losing your mind.Tap into the Kelsey Poulter Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

He broke the barrier—and the sport felt it.Quentin Nauman is back on the pod in the final episode of our Festival of Miles series—a fitting finish to a week that reminded us just how far the sport is moving.Just days ago at the HOKA Festival of Miles, Quentin lined up against the top high school milers in the country and ran 3:58.65—joining the elite ranks of sub-four athletes and pushing the ceiling of what high school runners can do. It wasn't just a win. It was a cultural moment in high school track.This year has been something different. Sub-four miles are no longer mythical, they're happening. But Quentin's not just following the wave. He's setting it.Earlier this season, he became the first high school athlete in U.S. history to run sub-1:50 in the 800 and sub-4:00 in the 1600 at the same meet. That's not progression. That's a shift in what young athletes believe is possible.What's fueling this surge in high school distance running? What does it mean to carry the weight of a generational leap? And where do we go from here, now that the old limits are falling?This isn't just a fast kid running fast. This is a flashpoint in the evolution of the sport and Quentin Nauman is right in the middle of it.In today's conversation, Quentin takes me through a race that will define him and his legacy for years to come. We dive into the BTS of the 2025 FOM and Quentin's legendary performance, where he won in 3:58 in a 54 close; we talk about the rest of his season, his ambitions for the future, including breaking Alan Webb's record, and more. Tap into the Quentin Nauman Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Recorded live. Fueled by the energy of the crowd. Powered by HOKA.Straight from the Big River Running Company in Missouri on June 4th, this special episode of the podcast captures the excitement, energy, and anticipation just one night before the iconic HOKA Festival of Miles.We sit down with four of the sport's most compelling figures: Olin Hacker – NCAA champion turned pro who thrilled fans with his powerful closing speed in previous Festival races; Krissy Gear – Steeplechase star known for her fearless racing style, who brought the heat to this meet with memorable performances in the past; Brandon Miller – A local favorite and middle-distance standout whose past runs at the Festival showcased both talent and heart in front of his hometown crowd; and Colleen Quigley – Olympian and St. Louis native who's been a longtime supporter and star attraction of the Festival, using this stage to inspire the next generation.Whether you're a die-hard track fan or just tuning in, this episode sets the stage for one of the most exciting nights in distance running.Tap into the Live Festival of Miles Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

What does it take to run for 28 hours straight?To go beyond exhaustion—when your body gives out and only your will is left?Alyssa McClellan knows.She's a former elite CrossFit athlete, a mother of four, and an ultra-endurance machine. At the Go One More Last Man Standing Ultra, Alyssa ran nearly 120 miles in just under 28 hours, outlasting every other woman and placing fourth overall. No pacers. No excuses. Just pure grit.But her story doesn't start there.Before ultra running,  Alyssa competed at the highest levels of CrossFit, ranking 252nd in the world and 156th in the U.S. at the 2018 Open. Her numbers speak for themselves: 320-pound back squat; 236-pound clean and jerk; 340-pound deadlift and 196-pound snatch.Now, she's bringing that same fire to the ultra scene—trading barbells for blisters and short bursts for soul-crushing distance. And she's doing it all while raising four boys.This episode goes deep into the pain cave—the place where most people quit and Alyssa keeps going. We talk aboutmental toughness, comebacks, and what it really means to show up, suffer, and choose to keep moving.No fluff. No finish line. Just raw endurance.Let's go.In today's conversation, Alyssa takes me through her 28 hours of pain, how she kept pushing when things got difficult, training for these endevours as a wife and mother, her ambtions for the future, and so much more.Tap into the Alyssa McClellan Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

From rock bottom to 100 miles — today's guest redefines what it means to fight back.Meet Sean Rhodes: former alcoholic, now ultramarathoner, mental health advocate, and the driving force behind a mission that's bigger than any finish line.In May 2025, Sean didn't just run a 100-mile race — he built one. The Stoney 100 was raw, solo, and powered by purpose: raising awareness for mental health and backing recovery-focused nonprofits like Quest in Recovery and Charleston Hope.His stats are legit: he has run 37:00 in the 10k, 1:23 in the half marathon, 2:59 in the marathon, and 21:27 for 100 miles.But forget the numbers for a second. What really matters is the journey — the comeback, the community, the cause.This isn't just a running story. It's about resilience, redemption, and the grit to turn pain into purpose.Strap in. This one's got heart.In today's conversation, Sean takes me through his 100-mile pursuit, flipping his life around and his life transformation, the key to unlocking discipline, how to keep going when your mind is giving out, how to put on muscle while still being a runner, his future goals, and so much more.Tap into the Sean Rhodes Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

He's gone from a four-hour marathoner to a 2:32 powerhouse — today, we're sitting down with the unstoppable Eric Floberg.Based in Chicago, Eric has become a standout in the running world for his incredible marathon transformation — going from a 3:59 debut to a blazing 2:32:44 personal best. But his impact doesn't stop at the finish line.Eric is also a master storyteller. Through his cinematic running videos, he's built a powerful connection with a global audience. With over 250,000 YouTube subscribers and more than 100,000 Instagram followers, he's proving that running isn't just about racing — it's about meaning, movement, and message.He's clocked impressive PRs across the board — 16:15 in the 5K, 1:12:24 in the half, and of course, that 2:32 marathon. But what makes Eric's story really stand out is how he balances elite-level training with family life, filmmaking, and authenticity in everything he shares.Today's podcast is a conversation between two friends. We discuss BPN's Last Man Standing, running a 2:32 Marathon, Packers vs Bears, filmaking, work / life balance, training insights, and so much more.This one is fun. A chill, convo. Perfect for your next run. Tap into the Eric Floberg Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

We love the idea of a breakthrough—the dramatic finish, the record-shattering time, the race where it finally clicks.But what if that moment you're chasing isn't about magic… but mindset?Returning to the show today is Alex Ostberg, former NCAA standout and the thoughtful voice behind The Rundown. In this episode, we dive into the psychology of high performance and unpack four of Alex's most powerful recent essays.We begin by debunking the myth of overnight success, revealing how real progress is built quietly—through patient, consistent effort. From there, Alex explores how belief isn't just motivational—it's foundational. Because if you don'tbelieve you're capable, your body won't act like it is.We then tackle what it means to find “the edge” as a runner—and why growth begins the moment you step beyond your comfort zone. Finally, we discuss the internal narratives that unfold on race day, and how the stories we tell ourselves can shape—or sabotage—our performance.This episode is more than a conversation about running. It's about mindset, identity, and learning how to rewrite your limits from the inside out.In today's conversation, Alex tackles key subjects like breakthroughs, the central governor theory, breaks down scientific studies that you can apply directly to your running/life, how to deal with pre-race nerves, pressure, anxiety, and more.This episode is VALUE packed and I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did. Tap into Alex Ostberg Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Some people push the limit. Kim Gottwald treats it like a starting line.Meet Kim Gottwald: ultra-endurance athlete, viral content creator, and founder of Rappid Runs, a running apparel brand built for the brutal reality of long-distance races.If his name isn't on your radar yet, it will be. Kim just co-won the Go One More Ultramarathon in Texas, racking up a mind-bending 378 kilometers (234 miles) before the race was shut down for extreme weather.But here's what really sets Kim apart: it's not just his mileage. It's his grit. His no-filter honesty. His ability to blend raw toughness with sharp humor.He's run 100K on an 800-meter loop in Cologne. He has blown up on TikTok for telling it exactly like it is. He'sredefining what an ultra athlete looks and sounds like.In this episode, we're talking last man standing races, the mental warfare of endurance, and what it actually feels like to hit hour 50 of a run with no finish line in sight.Whether you're a hardcore runner, an intrigued outsider, or just into seeing what the human body—and mind—can reallydo, you're in for a ride.Strap in. Kim Gottwald is here.In today's conversation, Kim takes us deep into the untold stories behind his 234-mile effort — from hallucinations and heartbreak to the mindset shifts that kept him moving through the dark, the mental tools he used to survive it, what it really takes to go beyond your limits when your body is begging you to stop, and his thoughts on lining up again in 2026. Tap into the Kim Gottwald Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Charlie Vause didn't just make waves this past season — he tore through the high school cross country scene like a storm, and today, we're fired up to welcome him back.Charlie, a senior at Rio Rancho High School in New Mexico, returns to the podcast after emerging as a standout in U.S. high school cross country during the 2024–2025 season. His achievements include winning the Nike Cross Nationals (NXN) and being named the Gatorade National Boys Cross Country Player of the Year.Vause has committed to run at Brigham Young University (BYU) after serving a two-year mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.He was honored as the 2025 Gatorade National Boys Cross Country Player of the Year, presented by Olympian Grant Fisher, recognizing his athletic excellence, academic achievement, and exemplary character.Vause clinched the national title at the 2024 Nike Cross Nationals with a time of 15:28.1, finishing 2.5 seconds ahead of the runner-up.He has PRs of 14:30 5k, a 4:01 converted Mile, 1:51.86 in the 800m, 8:51 two mile. In today's conversation, Charlie takes me through the last six months after winning NXN, his track season, handling newfound pressure and expectations, his goals for Festival of Miles, and why he shows up when it matters the most. This is Charlie's last chance at the 4:00 minute barrier. Expect him to put on a show. Tap into the Charles Vause Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Quentin Nauman—remember that name. Just a few weeks ago, he became the first high school athlete in U.S. history to run both sub-1:50 in the 800m and sub-4:00 in the 1600m... at the same meet. (Quentin clocked 1:49.41 in the 800m and 3:59.60 in the 1600m at the Iowa State Track and Field Championships.) Let that sink in.From sweeping the Drake Relays to dominating cross country with a 14:59 course record, Quentin has built a résumé that rivals the legends—and he's still not done.This next week, he heads to the HOKA Festival of Miles, not just to compete—but to win.In April 2025, Nauman achieved a rare trifecta by winning the 800m, 1,600m, and 3,200m races at the prestigious Drake Relays. He became the first Iowa high school boy to sweep all three distance events in the same weekend, setting a state record of 4:05.17 in the 1,600m.Quentin's prowess isn't limited to track. In November 2024, he won the Class 3A Iowa state cross country title with a state record time of 14:59. As a sophomore in 2024, The Oregon commit placed fifth in the boys' 800m at the HOKA Festival of Miles with a time of 1:51.09.So whether you're lacing up for a workout or just love the grind behind the glory—get ready. This is Quentin Nauman, and this is what the next generation of running looks like.In today's conversation, Quentin takes me through the impact that Jackson Heidesch had on him two years ago, how he'scarrying on the legecy, what he wants to do in the next 12 months of his HS career, why he thinks he can be one of the greatest to ever do it, and his thoughts leading into the 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles meet. Tap into the Quentin Nauman Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

He's back. Not just on this show — but back in the sport, back on the world stage, and back to blow your mind with what's possible when talent meets resilience.Returning to the show is none other than Cordell Tinch — the hurdler whose journey reads like a Hollywood script. A former cell phone salesman turned world-class athlete. The guy who stepped away from the sport, then came back to dominate Division II track with three national titles in one weekend — and now he's out here running 12.87 in the 110 hurdles, tied for the fourth-fastest time ever."From selling phones in Green Bay to beating world champions on the Diamond League circuit — Cordell's story is a masterclass in self-belief, raw talent, and grinding when no one's watching.In June 2023, Tinch clocked a world-leading 12.96 seconds in the 110m hurdles at the Arkansas Grand Prix. He furtherimproved to 12.87 seconds at the Shanghai-Keqiao Diamond League in May 2025, tying him for the fourth-fastest time ever in the event.At the 2023 NCAA Division II Outdoor Championships, Tinch made history by winning the 110m hurdles, long jump, and high jump—becoming the first athlete in Division II history to secure three individual titles at a single championship.In today's conversation, Cordell takes me through his past two years as a pro, being friends with Tyrese Haliburton, what his story means to him, why he thinks he can beat Grant Holloway at the highest level, his ambitions for the season, and wisdom to anyone willing to hear it. Tap into the Cordell Tinch Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Today's guest is a true game-changer in the world of track and field — a visionary whose passion, leadership, and creativity have helped transform one of the sport's most electric meets: Tim Cornell.Since 2021, Tim has served as the Meet Director for the HOKA Festival of Miles, one of the most electric and meaningful meets on the track and field calendar. Under his guidance, the event has grown tremendously — not just in performance level, but in heart, energy, and community spirit.Tim has made it his mission to create more than just fast races. Through his thoughtful integration of local stories and a true celebration of athletes — from elite pros to rising high school stars — he's cultivated a meet that captures what makes the running community so special.In today's conversation, Tim takes me through why the 2025 edition of the HOKA Festival of Miles is the best one yet, hebreaks down both fields, the behind the scenes of making this meet all that it is, the mission behind the meet, and so much more.I've known Tim for two years now, and he's not just a remarkable meet director, but an incredible person. I hope you all enjoy this conversation as much we did having it! Tap into the Tim Cornell Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

From a late start in high school track to becoming one of the fastest milers in NCAA history, today's guest has rewritten the blueprint for distance running success.Gary Martin's rise has been nothing short of electric. After a quiet freshman year at the University of Virginia, he exploded onto the national scene during the 2024 cross country season—capturing the ACC Championship with a course record and finishing 13th at nationals to earn All-American honors.But that was just the beginning.On the track, Gary has been rewriting record books: a 7:36 meet-record win in the 3000m at ACC Indoors, a Virginia school record in the 5000m, and a 3:48 mile at the 2025 Millrose Games—the second-fastest indoor mile in NCAA history. He didn't stop there, anchoring UVA's distance medley relay team to an NCAA-record time of 9:14.And long before college glory, Gary made headlines as a Pennsylvania high schooler when he ran 3:57.98 without a pacer—becoming the first from his state and just the 14th U.S. high schooler ever to break four minutes.With PRs of 3:33 in the 1500m, 3:48 in the mile, 7:36 in the 3K, and 13:16 in the 5K, Gary's resume is as fast as it is fearless.In today's conversation, Gary takes me through his training, recent record-breaking races, his mindset going into NCAA if he'll end his NCAA eligibility to go pro, his take on PA distance running, MJ v Lebron, and his thoughts going into Eugene next month.This one was an absolute blast. Don't miss an inside look at one of the best runners in the country. Tap into the Gary Martin Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Racing by feel and winning with heart.Margot Appleton has emerged as one of the premier collegiate distance runners in the U.S., blending tactical brilliance, relentless drive, and a flair for dramatic finishes.In 2019, as a high school junior, Appleton stunned the field at Boston's Mayor's Cup 5K, finishing second overall in 17:14—outpacing the reigning Foot Locker national champion. This performance marked a significant breakthrough in her running career.Most recently, at the 2025 Penn Relays, Appleton delivered a sensational anchor leg in the Distance Medley Relay (DMR), clocking a 4:21.46 split. Overcoming a significant deficit, she surged past top competitors to secure Virginia's first women's DMR win at the event since 1982. Her 1500m time of 4:05.68 at the 2025 Raleigh Relays ranks as the fourth-fastest in collegiate history.Appleton holds Virginia school records in the indoor mile (4:25.03), indoor 3000m (8:46.23), and outdoor 5000m (15:18.21). Appleton has earned First Team All-American honors in both the 1500m and 5000m events, including a 4th-place finish in the 5000m at the 2024 NCAA Outdoor Championships.In today's conversation, Margot takes me through her successful, consistent career at UVU, being a leader on the team, what it would mean to her to win an NCAA title, what her training looks like, training without a GPS watch, and so much more.Tap into the Margot Appleton Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Returning to the show is a runner whose name has become synonymous with strategic racing and an electrifying finishing kick–Mr. Nathan Green.From his early days as a high school prodigy in Boise, Idaho, Nathan's journey has been marked by dedication and resilience. In 2022, he clinched the U.S. U20 1500m title with a time of 3:45.19, earning a spot on Team USA for the World U20 Championships in Cali, Colombia, where he finished fifth. The following year, he led a 1-2 finish for the University of Washington at the 2023 NCAA Outdoor Track and Field Championships, capturing the 1500m title alongside teammate Joe Waskom.Fast forward to 2025, where Nathan anchored the University of Washington's Distance Medley Relay and 4xMile teams, delivering decisive final laps to secure victories at the prestigious Penn Relays. His outstanding performances earned him Big Ten Men's Track Athlete of the Week honors.From building a winning culture at the University of Washington, to exploring a bevy of multifaceted skills off the track, Nathan is a dynamic person with an arsenal of skills. In today's conversation, Nathan takes me through his four successful years at UW, the lessons he's learned, what a final shot at an NCAA title next month means to him, the legacy he wants to leave at UW, and a sneak peek at his next steps. Tap into the Nathan Green Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Today's episode is special—and honestly, it might be historic.We've got two of the fastest high school distance runners in the country—maybe ever—joining us just days before they toe the line at one of the most anticipated races of the year: the Festival of Miles.First up: Josiah Tostenson. He's the second-fastest indoor miler in U.S. high school history, clocking a blistering 3:57.41 at Boston University. He was named the 2023–24 Gatorade Track and Field Player of the Year. With a New Balance NIL deal and a future at the University of Washington, Josiah is already running at a professional level while still in high school.Then there's Tayvon Kitchen—the quiet tactician with a monster engine. He broke the national high school record in the 3,000 meters with a jaw-dropping 7:55.48 at the 2025 Husky Classic. He became just the seventh U.S. high schooler to run under 4 minutes indoors, and capped his cross country season as Oregon's Gatorade Player of the Year. He's BYU-bound and has shown time and again he knows exactly when to strike.Together, they're teammates, rivals, and co-authors of one of the most electric seasons we've ever seen—and it's all coming to a head at the Festival of Miles.Today's podcast is a conversation with two best friends who happen to be the two fastest runners in the country. Tune in for stories, training insights, and good ol banter. Oh, and some MASSIVE talk around Festival of Miles. This one won't disappoint you. Tap into the Josiah Tostenson and Tayvon Kitchen Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

From cross country and track star to talent management guru -- Matthew Sonnenfeldt has seen it all.Matthew's journey from high school champion to collegiate athlete and now a mentor and representative for other athletes illustrates a career built on passion, resilience, and a commitment to excellence in track and field.At Knoxville West High School, Matthew captured the Tennessee state cross country championship in 2008, including a 14:50 5000m at the Foot Locker South Regional, earning him a spot at the Foot Locker Nationals.Matthew began his collegiate running at the University of Kentucky, where he earned All-SEC Freshman Team honors in cross country in 2009. He then transferred to North Carolina State University, where he earned All-ACC honors in 2012 and All-NCAA Southeast Region honors in both 2011 and 2012. He has PRs of 3:52.74 in the 1500m, 13:59.10 in the 5000m, 29:51.52 in the 10,000m,  and 1:07:57 in the half marathon.After his competitive running career, Sonnenfeldt became a track agent with Flynn Sports Management, where he supports and represents elite track and field athletes.In today's conversation, Matt takes me through his background in the sport, how that shaped his outlook on the sport, running in the NCAA, becoming an agent, the importance of networking, trends in the sport, and his future goals in the sport.  Tap into the Matthew Sonnenfeldt Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Today's guest needs no introduction—but he definitely earned a new one.Olin Hacker is back—and this time, he's bringing a U.S. title with him.Just weeks ago, Olin stormed to victory at the USATF 5000m Championships in Indianapolis, running 13:32 to claim his first national crown. But this moment wasn't built in a month—it was years in the making.As a collegiate runner, Olin secured multiple Big Ten championships while running for Wisconsin in 2022, winning both the indoor 3000m and 5000m events, as well as the outdoor 5000m.The highlight came in 2022 at the Oregon Relays, where he shattered the meet record in the 5000m, clocking 13:19.34 and improving his personal best by 16 seconds.The rise continued, as Olin represented the U.S. at the 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships, finishing fifth in the 3000m with a season-best of 7:45.4.The Wisconsin Badger alum owns impressive PRs of 13:08.76 in the 5000m,  7:38.10 in the 3000m, and 3:56.59 in the mile. He took advantage of an extra year of eligibility due to the COVID-19 pandemic, returning for a seventh year, and claiming an NCAA 5000m victory.In today's conversation, Olin walks me through his recent win at the USATF road 5k championships, winning his first national title, his new mindset going into 2025, why he's racing more this year, going back to FOM next month, his goals for USA's 2025, and starting a podcast. Tap into the Olin Hacker Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

The Call Room: Road to Records continues as we're joined by the electric Chiara Dailey — La Jolla's own and one of the most exciting names in high school distance running — as she prepares for the 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles.Chiara brings more than just speed. She's relatable, confident, and on a mission.She kicked off her 2025 outdoor season with a new PR in the 800m, clocking 2:07.99 for second place at the Mt. SAC Relays — proof that she's sharpening her wheels for a big season.Since bursting onto the scene as a Foot Locker All-American in 2022, Chiara has built a resume full of fire:4:23.66 in the 1500m4:40.28 in the 1600m9:58.02 in the 3200m15:28 in the three-mile cross country race16:44 in the 5,000m cross country raceIn December 2024, she dominated the CIF State Cross Country Championships, winning her second straight Division 4 title — and running the fastest time of the entire meet.Oh, and she's already competed at Foot Locker Nationals three times.In today's conversation, Chiara takes me through her legendary three years of running, qualifying for Foot Locker Nationals all three of them, growing up in a running family, being coached by her dad, her excitement for this year's FOM, being a HOKA NIL athlete, and so much more.Tap into the Chiara Dailey Special.If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen.If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W   N O T E SThe Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rsBUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.runOur Website: https://therunningeffect.runTHE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQMy Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Some runners show up. Others shut it down when it counts.Riley Chamberlain is doing both.The BYU junior has become one of the most dangerous closers in the NCAA, helping lead the Cougars to back-to-back national titles in the Distance Medley Relay—including their record-breaking 10:37.58 this season, which shattered both NCAA and BYU records.But Riley's not just a relay weapon. She's been lighting it up solo, too—dropping 8:40.89 in the 3000m at the Husky Classic, the second-fastest time in the NCAA this year, and earning Second-Team All-American honors indoors.With PRs of 4:08 in the 1500, 4:26 in the mile, and that scorching 8:40 in the 3K, Riley is quickly becoming one of the most consistent—and clutch—names on the track.A former California Gatorade XC Athlete of the Year, two-time state champ, and NXN qualifier, Riley was a force back in high school. Now, she's elevating her game on the national stage—racing smart, closing hard, and building a legacy at BYU.In today's conversation, Riley walks me through her recent success in the sport, her ambtions for the future, winning NCAA titles, the culture of BYU, and much more.If you're someone who is up-and-coming and looking to take that next step, this one is for you. Tap into the Riley Chamberlain Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

What does it take to break one of the most iconic barriers in sports history?Brad Wilkins, lead scientist on Nike's Breaking2 project, joins the show to pull back the curtain on the science, strategy, and soul behind chasing the sub-two-hour marathon.Dr. Wilkins currently serves as an Assistant Professor in the Department of Human Physiology at the University of Oregon. He is the Director of the Oregon Performance Research Laboratory (OPRL); his research focuses on the physiological limits of human performance.Here is a link to his work. Check it out and work with them if it's of interest: https://oprl.uoregon.edu Dr. Wilkins explores thermoregulation, neural control of the cardiovascular system, the impact of product interventions on performance outcomes–just to name a few. The work he has done in this field has led to over 40 published manuscripts and patents. Dr. Wilkins received his Ph.D. from the University of Oregon and has also worked at the Mayo Clinic. He has been an accomplished scientist at Nike for 10 years now, and led the scientific team for the Breaking2 project, where he was instrumental in coordinating the various scientific disciplines involved in the project. (Eliud Kipchoge, Lelisa Desisa, and Zersenay Tadese attempted to break two hours in the marathon and narrowly missed the mark, with Kipchoge running a 2:00:25.)Tap into the Brad Wilkins Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E Shttps://oprl.uoregon.edu-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

For TJ Hansen, running isn't just a passion — it's the job. And business is booming.Up next in our 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles series, we welcome the Michigan standout who's made a national name for himself on both grass and track.Representing Freeland High School, TJ is a two-time Nike All-American and finished runner-up at the 2024 Nike Cross Nationals, crossing the line in 15:30.60 — just 2.5 seconds off the win. That followed a top-10 finish at NXN in 2023.TJ also claimed the Gatorade Michigan Boys Cross Country Player of the Year title for 2024–25 and double-won at the Michigan Division 2 state meet in both the 1600m and 3200m.His PRs show he's got range and firepower: he has run 1:54.27 in the 800m; 3:47.05 in the 1500m; 4:03.87 in the mile; 8:51.12 in the two-mile; and 14:24.40 in the 5,000m.Originally committed to Tennessee, TJ made a game-time decision to head west — he's now bound for the University of Colorado, joining one of the deepest distance squads in the NCAA.In today's conversation, TJ walks me through his successful career thus far, how he's risen to be one of the best, choosing Colorado, his ambtions and journey for Sub 4, how Festival Of Miles plays into that, his training, getting hit by a car, and more.Tap into the TJ Hansen Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

As Keegan Smith is apt to say, winning isn't everything – running your best is.Up next in our 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles series, we welcome one of the most dominant high school distance runners in the country: Keegan Smith, straight out of Tennessee.From the moment he laced up as a freshman, Keegan's been smashing records and turning heads. He opened his high school career by dropping a 14:53.79 5K — the fastest ever by a U.S. freshman in cross country — then lit up the track with a 4:14.63 mile and an 8:52.96 3,200m, both national freshman records.Fast forward to his senior year: Keegan clocked a blistering 14:23.26 at the Nike Cross Southeast Regional, breaking the Tennessee state record and proving he's still leveling up. He closed out his high school XC career with wins at NXR Southeast and Foot Locker South, and shattered three all-time course records along the way.His PRs speak for themselves: he has run 1:51.93 in 800m; 3:55.64 in the 1500m; 4:11.90 in the mile; 8:54.97 in the two-mile; and 14:23.26 in the 5,000m in cross country. The longer the race, the stronger he gets.Now committed to the University of Colorado, Keegan's taking his talent to one of the top distance programs in the nation. And with NIL deals already in place with HOKA and Precision Fuel & Hydration, he's not just running fast — he's building a brand.In today's conversation, Keegan shares behind-the-scenes stories from my marathon (lol), what it was like to run a local race, his breakdown of XC postseason, why his XC season was so meaningful to him, running a 4:04 Mile while being injured, his ambitions for the outdoor track season, and racing the 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles meet. Tap into the Keegan Smith Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Dietitian Alex Larson, on a mission to fuel the world's endurance athletes, joins the show today to share her expert tips on nutrition, health, and performance for long-term success.Alex is a mother of three kids and successful entrepreneur, serving as the founder and CEO of Alex Larson Nutrition. After having her three kids in an eight-year span, Alex is back to running and gravel cycling for endurance events. She completed the Ironman Wisconsin in 2014, and is primed to continue that success as a busy mother and business owner. Alex has a stable of dietitians and nutrition coaches working for her, and offers meal plans, guides and a very accessible blog on her website. Her team has coached over 500 athletes across 28 thousand community platforms and has been featured on 40-plus media outlets.The Alex Larson motto is to improve performance and body composition through simple and flexible eating. On her new podcast, "Endurance Eats Podcast," she simplifies nutrition advice for endurance athletes and interviews well-known guests.In today's conversation, Alex takes me through key nutrition principles that you can apply in your day to day that will take your running to the next level. Tap into the Alex Larson Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

The creative force behind Litoff Studios, Mr. Zach Litoff himself, joins the show today, ready to discuss his new book. Zach seamlessly intertwines athleticism and artistry–blending his elite athletic background as an NCAA Championship steeplechaser with his innovative design work; this has led him to work with major brands like Nike, New Balance, and even Apple.Recently, he led the rebranding of the iconic Bay to Breakers race for their website, infusing it with fresh, modern visuals while honoring its rich history. Zach grew up in Boulder, Colorado, where he became enmeshed at an early age with drawing, climbing and running. At Monarch High School in Colorado he came in third in the state two-mile championships, third in the mile, and fifth in the 800m.At Santa Clara University he helped build a strong program, finishing as an All-American steeplechaser with PRs of 8:32 in the steeple and 13:52 in the 5,000m. Zach went back to Santa Clara and got his Master's in Marketing, and has since started his own company doing design work, marketing, photography, video production, web design, content creation and blog creation. Whew!Zach's latest triumph is a 160-page multimedia art book called "The Last Olympic Trials," which documents his experience at the 2024 U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials in Eugene. It blends film photography, painted-over Polaroids, mixed media, and hand-drawn illustrations to capture the shifting culture of the sportIn today's conversation, Zach takes me through his running pursuits, how he's shifted his identity in the sport and how he's gone about that, his thoughts on Grand Slam track, the story behind his new book "The Last Olympic Trials" and so much more.This is just a good chat between two friends. Don't miss it. And pick up a copy of Zach's latest work to support a friend. Great work. Tap into the Zach Litoff Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

Episode 1 of The Call Room: Road to Records is here, featuring New Mexico's fastest miler and ascending star, Corbin Coombs.Corbin, a senior at Organ Mountain High School in Las Cruces, New Mexico, is gearing up for one of the biggest events of the calendar year, the 2025 HOKA Festival of MIles coming to you June 5. He came in 8th last year in the boyschampionship mile.In February, Corbin set a new state record by running a 4:02.59 mile at the Millrose Games in New York City, breaking a 21-year-old New Mexico record. Corbin, who is affiliated with the Sun Dragons Track Club, continued to make a name for himself at the 2025 Nike Indoor Nationals. On Friday at the two-mile championship race he came in second with a time of 8:45.88. Later that day, he was the anchor on his team's DMR victory: the group ran a 10:06.09, securing the fourth-fastest high school time this year. Then onSunday, he competed in the boys' mile championship and came in fourth with a time of 4:08.98.Then on March 1 at the Circuit: Philadelphia, Corbin ran a new mile personal best of 4:01.62. Corbin has additional PRs of 1:52.19 in the 800m indoor; 3:45.21 in the 1500m indoor; ​and 14:30.06 in the 5,000m for cross country. Corbin was the 2023 Gatorade New Mexico Boys Track & Field Player of the Year. In today's conversation, Corbin takes me through his training, mindset, results from his indoor season, racing the HOKA Festival Of Miles, what it means to come back, the class of '25, and so much more. Tap into the Corbin Coombs Special.  If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. Comment the word "PODCAST" below and I'll DM you a link to listen. If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!S H O W  N O T E S-BUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.run-Our Website: https://therunningeffect.run -THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ-My Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠-Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz

High school mid-distance sensation Cole Boone joins us today, fresh off two monumental performances in March that have solidified him as a national champion.Cole, a junior at Pulaski County High School in Dublin, Virginia, has been crushing the 2025 campaign so far. The bar is set high for his senior campaign next fall.On March 4 at the Virginia High School League Class 3 State Indoor Championships held at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Cole set a new national high school indoor record in the 1,000m with a time of 2:20.14.Cole then competed in the New Balance Nationals Indoor meet in Boston, where he delivered an impressive 1:48.29 in the 800m to win the championship and claim his first national title as a junior. This is the second-fastest national high school 800m indoor time this year.Cole has been grinding since middle school, when he ran a 2:10 in the 800m as a 7th grader. He currently runs 25-30 miles a week as a mid-distance guy and has lofty goals for the future.His current PRs outside of the 800m and 1,000m include:400m Outdoor: 49.821600m Outdoor: 4:07.05One Mile Outdoor: 4:08.603200m Indoor: 9:33.63In today's conversation, Cole walks me through his breakout year, what went into it, living on a farm, his ambitions for the future, what his training looks like, inside his 1K National Record, his plans for outdoor, and much more. Tap into the Cole Boone Special.If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with a friend who you think will benefit from it.Comment the word “PODCAST” below and I'll DM you a link to listen.If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!SHOW NOTESBUY MERCH BEFORE IT'S GONE: https://shop.therunningeffect.runOur Website: https://therunningeffect.runTHE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQMy Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Take our podcast survey: https://tinyurl.com/3ua62ffz