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Als je een gast uitnodigt die afwisselend in Hongkong en Nederland woont, dan kan het even duren, maar uiteindelijk lukte het om Chang Ju Cheung bij ons aan te laten schuiven! Chang is op beide plekken journalist, programmamaker en presentator. Hij maakte onder andere een reisprogramma over Nederland voor Chinezen, bedacht een serie voor AT5 waarin hij de verschillen en overeenkomsten van de Chinese gemeenschap in Amsterdam en Hongkong onderzocht en was beeldredacteur bij De Wereld Draait Door.  In Bonte Was vertelt Chang ons waarom de Chinese cultuur waarin hij is opgegroeid soms botst met de directe Nederlandse redactiecultuur, waarom hij het belangrijk vindt (en niet cliché) om mee te werken aan programma's over Chinezen/Chinese Nederlanders en Ook komen we nog even terug op een opmerking die onze gast Ricky Mohabbat maakte in de vorige aflevering van Bonte Was en spelen we een potje kwartet. Daarin bespreken we de belabberde berichtgeving rond de demonstratie in Den Haag op 18 mei, quote One'sy een van de NIOD-onderzoekers die uitlegt waarom hij liever spreekt van g*n*cidaal geweld in plaats van g*n*cide en geeft Chang een voorbeeld van hoe een ‘gewone' Chinese Nederlands aan een talkshowtafel ineens wordt bestempeld als expert op het gebied van Chinese astrologie.Heb jij zelf voorbeelden van missers of opstekers in de media, volg ons dan op www.instagram.com/bontewaspodcast en geef ze daar aan ons door. Word vriend van onze podcast door eenmalig of vaker te doneren via www.vriendvandeshow.nl/bontewaspodcast. Daar vind je ook het transcript van deze aflevering terug.Interessante linkjes:**Usha Marhé legt het verschil uit tussen Hindoes en Hindo(e)stanen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-hPQuEln4M**Glenn Doerga over Hindostanen versus Hindoestanen: https://www.instagram.com/p/DHofNxVuOrf/?hl=nl**Changs docuserie voor AT5 (seizoen 1): https://www.at5.nl/nieuws/214449/chang-s1**Changs docuserie voor AT5 (seizoen 2): https://www.at5.nl/nieuws/211203/chang-s2**Waarom NIOD-onderzoeker spreekt van g*n*cidaal geweld in plaats van van g*n*cide: https://archive.ph/znrsm#selection-1511.0-1519.419**Trailer Infernal Affairs: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/

Everyone thought Eric was a picky kid when it came to food. Little did they know he just had high standards! Eric's culinary journey evolved from take-out at the bus stop, to culinary school, P.F. Changs, to IronBorn Pizza and now his own venture into dumplings. He tells us about his “most interesting” dumpling - the Nashville chicken dumpling - and how to make duck sauce at home. --https://pittsburghdumplingz.com/#withbowlandspoon #withbowlandspoonpodcast #localfoodsystem #foodsystem #foodsystems #pittsburghlocalfood #foodevolution #foodventures #happyeating #localfood #eatlocal

Discover 184 | This week Joe Rogan and Donald Trump talk agriculture, McDonald's battles E. coli & what the spooky scary high prices of chocolate means for Halloween. SHOP Discover Ag Merch here DOWNLOAD our “AG IN THE CLASSROOM GUIDE” here JOIN our “CLUB DISCOVER” Monthly Newsletter here Welcome to “Discover Ag” where agriculture meets pop culture. Hosted by a western tastemaker & millennial cattle rancher @‌NatalieKovarik and a sought after dairy sustainability speaker & millennial dairy farmer @‌TaraVanderDussen - Discover is your go to podcast for food news. Every Thursday your hosts dish up their entertaining and informative thoughts to keep you in the know & help you “discover” what's new in the world of food. THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS!!!! COZY EARTH: Luxury bedding, bath, and apparel. Listeners can get up to 40% off using the code “DISCOVER”. PERFORMANCE BEEF: Cattle management software that's easy to use and allows you to simplify feeding, performance and health data recording. TURTLEBOX: The loudest, most durable outdoor speaker on the market Code “DISCOVER” ARMRA COLOSTRUM: Our favorite supplement Code “DISCOVER” MANUKORA HONEY: Honey with Superpowers Code “DISCOVER” TOUPS & CO: 100% natural tallow based skincare & makeup Code “DISCOVER” WILD WEST KIDZ: Children's book subscription dedicated to western lifestyle children's books. Code “DISCOVER” ENCHANTMENT VINEYARDS Family-owned winery & the only ingredient in their wine is grapes. No additives. Code “DISCOVER20” Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

As head of the Upward Projects Restaurant Group, Bailey steers five brands and 30 restaurants toward profit, success, and good experiences. In her conversation with Jimmy and Schatzy at CREATE, the trio discusses how Bailey got into the restaurant industry and some of the lessons learned as an emerging restauranteur. They also chat about working in the restaurant industries and the particular joy the environments can produce, including a story about encountering Jimmy Buffet while working as a bartender in Nantucket.Listen to this episode to learn Bailey's secrets to success with engaging with your hospitality team, navigating not having all the answers, and figuring out communication preferences in an age of chat bots.Key Takeaways– How Lauren got into the restaurant industry, P.F. Changs and No-Doz– Lauren's lessons learned as an emerging restauranteur– Navigating the exhilarating adventure of managing 30 restaurants and 5 unique brands.– Lauren's hands-on approach to working with her restaurant teams, drawing from her experience in every role.– Behind-the-scenes peek: What happens when Lauren tries her hand at “Undercover Boss” in her own restaurants.– A playful test of camaraderie: Lauren challenges Schatzy and Jimmy's knowledge of each other.– Unpacking the nuances of hospitality and communication preferences in an era where restaurants don't just answer the phones.– The tech-driven side of restaurant communications

ClubChalamet has lived to see another day, a man tried to make new friends on Grindr, Trump's newest possible VP pick murdered a dog in cold blood, January 6th is headed to the big screen, and revisiting Meghan McCain's enthusiasm for P.F. Changs. Get the after show and ad-free episodes here (or get a 2 week free trail to our bonus content by hitting subscribe in Apple) Listen to Molls' review of The Tortured Poets Department (free) here LINKS Diddy's assistant charged with drug felony BRENDAN PAUL DIDDY'S ASSISTANT CHARGED WITH DRUG FELONY Club Chalamet Rumors that Chalamet and Kylie Jenner are having a baby Chalamet's and Jenner's people tell US Weekly that they're not expecting ClubChalamet's personal Twitter The Yolanda Photo Jan 6th Aaron Sorkin is set to write and direct “Jan 6th,” and calls it a follow up to “The Social Network” Trump's potential VP running mate shot a dog Kristi Noem defends killing her dog If you're a (MAGA) Republican, and you lose Catturd and Looney Laura, you're DONE! (Previous bonus link that's relevant here) Far right Twitter user catturd has lost a disturbing amount of pets over the last couple of years Grindr Man is shocked that someone on Grindr wants to have sex with him Meghan McCain Meghan McCain's well-documented obsession with P.F. Changs Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Twitter Find more of Molly's stuff Find more of Tiffany's stuff

Welcome back to another season of the more we know. Because the more we know, the more we grow! Your mentor today is the FORMER CEO of P.F. Changs, which you may have dined at! We dived into all things business, leadership, including getting up at 4 am to workout!! Damola Adamolekun is an Operating Partner at Garnett Station Partners and the former Chief Executive Officer of the global restaurant chain P.F. Chang's, where he led the company in strategic initiatives ensuring the continued growth and success of one of the most important hospitality brands in the world.Mr. Adamolekun also previously served as a Partner at Paulson & Co., a New York based investment firm, and the principal owner of P.F. Chang's, where he played a vital role in the sourcing and subsequent management of several of the firm's largest investments.Previously, Mr. Adamolekun has worked in the Investment Banking Division of Goldman Sachs and as a Private Equity Associate at TPG Capital. Mr. Adamolekun previously served on the boards of P.F. Chang's, Inday, the National Restaurant Association, and International Tower Hill Mines (NYSE: THM), and was a Board Observer for Bausch Health Companies (NYSE: BHC).In 2021, Mr. Adamolekun was recognized with three GLOBEE Leadership Gold awards for CEO of the Year: Food and Beverage, CEO of the Year: Hospitality, Travel, Recreation, Leisure, and Top CEO of the Year: The Rising Star, as well as a GLOBEE Leadership Silver award for CEO Achievers: Transformational Leader of the Year, while in 2022 he was named in Nation's Restaurant News' Power List among the most innovative and inspiring leaders in the restaurant industry.Mr. Adamolekun received a Bachelor of Arts in Economics and Political Science from Brown University, where he was a member of the Ivy League champion Brown Football team and served as President of the Brown Investment Group, and a Master of Business Administration from Harvard Business School, where he served as Portfolio Manager for the HBS Investment Club.Listen To The More We Know ⇨ https://www.buzzsprout.com/1134704​Subscribe ⇨https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxvfd5ddf72Btbck8SdeyBwFollow my Instagram ⇨ https://www.instagram.com/sameer.sawaqed/?hl=enFollow my Twitter ⇨ https://twitter.com/commitwithmeer

Did you know the term "incel" no longer generally refers to someone who is just lonely and horny? Now, it's more synonymous with a new kind of domestic terrorist. A rise in mass shootings carried out by self-identified "incels," starting with Elliot Rodger in 2014, has more and more people looking into the "manosphere" that incels digitally inhabit. It's a sad and terrifying place... and also - holy shit, is it unintentionally also hilarious. Get ready to learn all about Chads, Stacys, Tyrones, Brads, Changs, Beckys, being wristmogged, skullmogged, and more, you mid-tier normie Chadlite! Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ph7jfsXgg3gMerch: https://www.badmagicmerch.comTimesuck Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious Private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch-related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard? Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast.Sign up through Patreon, and for $5 a month, you get access to the entire Secret Suck catalog (295 episodes) PLUS the entire catalog of Timesuck, AD FREE. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. And you get the download link for my secret standup album, Feel the Heat.

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In today's episode of Hospitality Hangout, Michael Schatzberg “The Restaurant Guy” and Jimmy Frischling “The Finance Guy” talk to Lauren Bailey, co-founder and CEO of Upward Projects. As head of the Upward Projects Restaurant Group, Bailey steers five brands and 30 restaurants toward profit, success, and good experiences. In her conversation with Jimmy and Schatzy at CREATE, the trio discusses how Bailey got into the restaurant industry and some of the lessons learned as an emerging restauranteur. They also chat about working in the restaurant industries and the particular joy the environments can produce, including a story about encountering Jimmy Buffet while working as a bartender in Nantucket. Listen to this episode to learn Bailey's secrets to success with engaging with your hospitality team, navigating not having all the answers, and figuring out communication preferences in an age of chat bots.Key Takeaways[00:06 - 02:05] Introducing Lauren Bailey, Co-Founder & CEO of Upward Projects[02:08 - 03:36] How Lauren got into the restaurant industry, P.F. Changs and No-Doz[03:36 - 06:02] Lauren's lessons learned as an emerging restauranteur[06:21 - 08:21] 30 restaurants and 5 brands, having fun in the adventure with your teams[08:43 - 09:27] Leave your problems at the door, joking about men's and women's brains[09:29 - 10:28] Bartending in Nantucket, a Jimmy Buffet story[10:29 - 12:00] Schatzy and Jimmy on working in the restaurant industry[14:08 - 15:21] Is Lauren fearless?[15:38 - 16:33] How Lauren works with employees at her restaurants as someone who has worked every role in a restaurant[16:35 - 17:49] What happens when Lauren tries to "Undercover Boss" at her restaurants[17:54 - 23:49] Talking Back — Lauren tests how well Schatzy and Jimmy know each other[23:50 - 26:53] Spice is Right — Dunkin Donuts edition[26:54 - 28:13] Hospitality and communication preferences, restaurants don't answer the phones anymore[28:17 - 29:11] The tech side of restaurant communications, red rage[29:13 - 31:06] Branded Quickfire

In Our Newest Episode We Are Joined By Derek Eliason & Chapelle Marshall, Derek Just Came Back From A One Month European Experience So We Take A Dive Into His Trip Which Is A Once In A Lifetime Experience! Pelle Tells Us How Business Been And Updates On His New Journey As A Correctional Officer! We Are Also Joined By My New Neighbor Chang Who Sits In And Participates With The Fellas! Starting The Show Off Though We Are Joined Via Phone Call By Our Very Own NFL Insider Austin Shefter aka Austin Bankhead Who Gives Us Insight On The Seahawks Vs Lions And What The Hawks Need To Do To Get Back On Track! 

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Rejection is a life skill. This week, Jess and Brandon revisit a previous conversation about how to deal with someone who pulls away without explanation. They share their own experiences, and weigh in on how to manage the "in-between" when you're not together but haven't quite split up. Big thanks to our sponsors AdamandEve.com — use code DRJESS to save! And if you have podcast questions, please submit them here. You can find the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podbean, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music & Stitcher! Rough Transcript: This is a computer-generated rough transcript, so please excuse any typos. This podcast is an informational conversation and is not a substitute for medical, health, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the services of an appropriate professional should you have individual questions or concerns. How to Manage Rejection Part 1 Episode 327 [00:00:00] Jess O'Reilly: Hey, hey, we are running a repeat podcast today on the topic of rejection because it's, it's a week of rejection emails. [00:00:10] Brandon Ware: If you're going to rejection, that's my jam. I'm totally like, let's go. Let's do this. [00:00:14] Jess O'Reilly: It's your specialty, receiving rejection or rejecting others. [00:00:17] Brandon Ware: Both. [00:00:18] Jess O'Reilly: Oh, really? Okay. Uh, anyhow, we received so many questions about dealing with rejection this week. [00:00:23] Jess O'Reilly: Sometimes these things come in waves and themes and questions about rejection in and out of the bedroom. And a while back, we covered this topic. So we're going to do it again. And I'm going to share that episode with you, which is perfect for me because we are down at my family reunion. Over 60 of us, Chinese Jamaicans, Changs. [00:00:40] Brandon Ware: This is where the rejection came in. I tried so hard to talk to people, but they just kept rejecting and not listening to me. [00:00:46] Jess O'Reilly: Well, my family's on transmit, not receive. We talk more than we listen. Anyhow, we're down here. Lots of distractions, lots of food, so much chaos. So much love and I'm happy to get to enjoy it. [00:00:57] Jess O'Reilly: So without further ado, we'll throw it back to I think March 2022. Here you go. [00:01:07] Jess O'Reilly: You're listening to the sex with Dr. Jess podcast, sex and relationship advice you can use tonight. [00:01:16] Brandon Ware: Welcome to sex with Dr. Jess podcast. I'm your cohost, Brandon Ware here with my lovely other Dr. Jess. [00:01:25] Jess O'Reilly: Hello. I'm glad you've stopped making those ASMR sounds. I can do it again for everyone. It's really creepy, your tongue ASMR sounds. [00:01:36] Jess O'Reilly: I like the sound. There you go. It's the look of your tongue coming out of your mouth I don't like. That's not the point. Ah, well tonight... We're having a quickie. It's the way I like it. I know. Cool brag. Cool, cool brag, bro. We're going to be talking about dating and what to do when someone pulls away. So not when they ghost you, but when they kind of back out out of nowhere. [00:01:57] Jess O'Reilly: So I did this interview. And people had sent [00:02:00] in this hodgepodge of questions. Hodgepodge? You're 90. Smorgasbord of questions about what to do when a love interest pulls back out of nowhere. So they said, for example, you're hitting it off and then all of a sudden things change. Text messages are sparser. [00:02:15] Jess O'Reilly: They used to text every day. They don't initiate contact like they used to, but they still respond to you or they're answering with like one word. Whereas they used to call and, you know, send essays, or they're saying that they're busy all of a sudden and don't have as much time, but then they come back and they're messaging you. [00:02:31] Jess O'Reilly: So basically, they're not communicating that they want to end things, but they're sort of dragging you along so you ...

Joshua Toomey is joined by Matt Naas of the Roach Koach Podcast to discuss listener's random Rock Star encounters while Ro Kohli is on assignment at San Diego Comic-Con. First up the guys talk about the Knotfest Nu Metal Bracket Challenge update and the two albums remaining. Joshua and Matt dive into the encounters and give some personal stories of their own. Joshua tells the story of meeting Alice Cooper at Hot Topic and Matt talks about seeing Wes Borland buying a toothbrush. Stories of Axl Rose at the urinal, Rob Zombie in line at the grocery store and Duff McKagan at the airport. From Ashes to New stopping in a Wendy's, Chino Moreno at tobacco shop and some Vinnie Paul run ins. The Ultimate Warrior at CompUSA and his AMEX issues. Sitting next to Phil Anselmo on a plane when the listener was 16 brings up the question of who you would want to sit next to on a plane for hours. Toomey gives a review of the Tori Amos show that he recently attended. Tico Torres and David Bryan of Bon Jovi in your restaurant. Toomey and Chris Kirkpatrick trade hair secrets. Almost running over Zakk Wylde in Florida, almost knocking over Rob Zombie and John 5 at a P.F. Changs and Vanilla Ice at Burger King. Dog Fashion Disco at Wendys and Vinnie Paul at a Suncoast and some Taylor Swift stories. Chad Gray watching Monday Nitro and Jerry Only at a grocery store. Joey Belladonna at local band night, Sevendust at a Friendlys and Ozzy breaks the guy code. Mikey Doling had a crazy story with Bill Ward of Black Sabbath. Tony Hawk skating by himself, Dr. Dre at a track meet and 311 at a gas station. Matt meets George Clinton at a 7/11 and Toomey seeing Dave Williams of Drowning Pool on his birthday. ICP and Eminem stories to finish the talk. 

Rafik Farouk began his illustrious career in hospitality in Egypt, right out of culinary school.  Some 30 years later, he's done it all.  From tending bar to International Operations and Franchise Development.  Rafik's depth of experience has seen it all too, from both the franchisee and franchisor side of the equation.  Today, he directs International Global Business Development for P.F. Changs and he is here to tell us all about it.  

Isaiah speaks truth! God tells him to tell us to put away our weapons and make the harmful into the life-giving! Listen and learn! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/eradio-valverde/support

Awoo2you! Wolves of Glendale (Ethan Edenburg, Eric Jackowitz, and Tom McGovern) are back for a very special FamBand episode! Learn secret menu items at the P. F. Changs, must have wedding tips, must avoid cat purchases, and so much more. Stop reading this and listen already! #TheMaskStaysOnSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Let's all take a look at our watches once again as injuries plague this major league club and Ben Cherington glosses over the performing prospects and instead turns to either lesser players or failed major leaguers. Anyway, let's start off by keeping this positive as we discuss Ke'Bryan Hayes looking more like his rookie season self, Roansy Contreras looking like a very capable pitcher, and what changes are bringing success to JT Brubaker.

Pat, Nick and Dylan are back to break down another episode of Below Deck including montages, great great falls, great great generals, flirting, racing, the food at P.F. Changs and even more Below Deck Sailing Yacht.  Subscribe to our Patreon for our coverage of Below Deck Down Under, Below Deck Sailing Yacht seasons 1 & 2 AND Love is Blind Season 2.  https://patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork Video of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpgRn46VevjnBrp5A4tgiqw?sub_confirmation=1

Intro: Final Draft is conspiring against us, Beastie Boys' Adam Horowitz, Doris the dog loves the vet, Jim Croce, The Cure. Let Me Run This By You: storytelling, Risk Podcast, The MothInterview: We talk to the creator and producer of You're Being Ridiculous, Jeremy Owens, about offending people, porn, Samantha Irby, Roosevelt University, University of Arkansas, The URTAs, King Lear, Greg Vinkler, Barbara Gaines, Plautus' The Rope, P.F. Changs, Kyogen, Threepenny Opera, Steppenwolf, Brene Brown, Marianne Williamson.FULL TRANSCRIPT (unedited): 2 (10s):And I'm Gina Pulice.1 (11s):We went to theater school together. We survived it, but we didn't quite understand.3 (15s):At 20 years later, we're digging deep talking to our guests about their experiences and trying to make sense of it all.1 (21s):We survived theater school and you will too. Are we famous yet?2 (34s):Yeah.1 (35s):It was one of these things where it's like, final draft will not let you restart your computer. I'm like, fuck you. Final draft. What did you ever do for me? Final draft writer, duet. They're all, they're all plotting against me,2 (47s):But what is, what is, what does final draft have to do with your camera working on this?1 (53s):So in order to, to be okay, the bottom line is I need a new computer. Okay. Let's start there second. Okay. That's the first level of problems. It's like the deepest level. And then we, if we go up a little bit into the level of problems, it is that final draft that I might camera in order to use my camera. Sometimes I have to restart my computer because it's so old. Right. So I need to restart,2 (1m 19s):You know, I want to do any one thing in the morning I got, are really rev my engine.1 (1m 26s):So like, I'm like, okay, well, in order to restart the computer, it's like not letting me restart it because final draft is this because probably final draft is so advanced and my computer is so Jack.2 (1m 39s):Totally. And that's how they get you mad. I feel like they all conspired to be like, okay, well let's make it. So this will work on this version. So then,1 (1m 49s):So anyway, I see you, you look great. I look like shit. So it's probably better my camera's up.2 (1m 57s):So a couple of things I keep forgetting to ask you on here, about how, how did it come to be that you were chatting in the parking lot with Adam Horowitz about your dogs, Volvo.1 (2m 12s):We never talked about that.2 (2m 14s):We did not.1 (2m 15s):Okay. So I rule up, so my dog, Doris, who everyone knows that listens to the podcast and by everyone, I mean, whoever listens to the podcast, you know what I mean? So hopefully it's growing and growing, listen and rate the podcast. Anyway, the point is I roll up to the vet, which I do oh about every other week, because my dog is a very high maintenance. And so she's just so she of course had an ear infection. Cause she has these huge ears that collect all this bacteria. So I roll up and there's an eye and because it's COVID and everything, you have to park outside and wait, but because it's LA all the windows are down and everyone's car and there's this dude sitting in his Kia has electric Kia.1 (2m 59s):Well,2 (2m 59s):My key.1 (3m 0s):Yeah, I know. I know. I did not recognize this human being. He looked like my husband, like fifties gray, maybe had glasses on.2 (3m 13s):Why would you like all our knowledge of them is when they were so, so young. Right,1 (3m 18s):Right. So young. And I like didn't, you know, keep up with the beast. So it was like, I had other things to do, you know? So I was doing other things. So I'm, I'm like trying to corral Doris out of the car. She's crazy. She's trying to get out. She loves the vet. The backdrop is my dog2 (3m 35s):Loves the,1 (3m 36s):Oh my God. She races towards the vet with a fury that is unmatched, loves it. I2 (3m 43s):Never once heard of this in my entire life. So1 (3m 45s):She's really, really excited about the bet. So she's an extra crazy. And I get her out of the carrier to let her sniff around in the parking lot. And I see this gentleman who is the interesting thing about him is that his leg is out the window. Like he's like resting his leg. And I'm like, well, that's kind of weird for like an older dude, but whatever, it's, it's LA like, you know2 (4m 8s):That sound's going to say, I imagine that kind of thing happens in LA.1 (4m 11s):Yeah. And plus he's probably weighed been waiting and waiting for his dog forever. And so, cause you, you have to wait out there, like they don't want you to leave in case they need you and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. So I, and I say, and he says, oh, a cute dog. And I'm like, oh, she's a pain in the ass. And then he's like, what's her name? And I'm like, oh, her name is Doris. And he's like, oh, that was my mom's name. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And then we talked about the origin of Doris, cause it's from a Jim Croce song. And Jim Croce is someone, my husband adores the singer. The folks there yeah. Died when he was 29. Looked like he was about 60. When he died.2 (4m 47s):He was 29.1 (4m 49s):Yes. You know, he looks like David Abbott, Holly, if you ever look at me2 (4m 56s):Like a hole, I see it.1 (4m 59s):But just bringing it back to the old theater school. So, so yeah. And so he's like, we talked about Jim Croce and he's like, Jim Croce is the first person I remember dying. I had that album. And I said, yeah. And he said, that's in a Jim Croce song. And I said, yes, Leroy brown, Friday about a week ago, Leroy shooting dice. And at the end of the bar sat a girl named Doris and who that girl looked nice. And that's why we named Doris Doris. He was like, I don't remember Doris being in that song. So we get into that. Right. Okay. And then he's like, I'm like, oh, is your dog okay? And he's like, well, she, she, she got a cut on her neck and I'm like, oh shit. And I'm like, is that2 (5m 38s):A knife fight in a bar?1 (5m 39s):I was like, how did that happen? And he goes, I don't know. But like, you know, since I'm not a doctor, I figured I'd take, bring her to the vet. I'm like good plan, my friend, good plan. So he's like, I'm waiting for him and waiting for her. And I'm like, oh, okay. And then he said, what's wrong with your dog? And I said, oh my God, what? Isn't wrong with my dog? And I said, my dog has a dermatitis of the vulva and an ear infection. And he's like, wait, what? And I'm like, yes, she just she's out. She's got a lot of allergies because she's a friend. She and I did this to myself by getting a friendship. But like, yeah, she's got, and he said that his dog was really licking her butthole and he had dermatitis of the bottle. And I was like, it's the same I heard of my friend, Morgan has a Frenchie who has dermatitis of the butthole because all Frenchie owners talk about these things.1 (6m 26s):And he's like, oh, well, my dog has dermatitis of the bottle. I'm like, well, mine's got dermatitis of the Volvo. They both have, they both have like private parts itching. Right. And so then we started talking and we talked about a lot of things. Cause you have to wait forever. And then right. And so we talk and talk and talk and no clue who this person is. And he's like,2 (6m 47s):Did you say cut? There's something about that voice?1 (6m 52s):No.2 (6m 52s):No. Okay.1 (6m 54s):'cause he was kinda mumbly and also just looked so natural.2 (6m 60s):Aiming, sabotage.1 (7m 1s):No, not screaming and also not jumping around with his other two cohort. And then I just, I felt like, anyway, it just didn't cross my mind. And his shoelaces were untied. I don't know. It was like a real casual situation.2 (7m 15s):Yeah. Honestly, I would never assume somebody in a key is famous. That's my snobbery, but I wouldn't.1 (7m 21s):Yeah. I mean, I, it was a very, very, very nice camp, but it still, it was a key I said to you like, oh, that was her talking about cars. I mean, we talked about kids, cars, Manhattan. Then he said, I'm from it. I said, oh, I'm from Chicago. And he said, I'm from Manhattan. And I said, oh, I said, oh my God. I launched into this thing about how I could never live in New York because I was like to own like the most unhip like fat and ugly human and like, not in a bad way, but just like, kind of like I'm. So I just feel like, I didn't know what the fuck was going on ever in New York. Like, I didn't know which way to go, who to talk to, where to turn I was lost. And he's like, yeah. Do you know what I like about LA is like, nothing ever happens here.1 (8m 2s):That's not2 (8m 2s):True.1 (8m 3s):No. But I was like, what do you mean? He's like, I need to just like New York, like you have like a million things are always happening at any given time. Right?2 (8m 11s):Sure. It's a lot too. Like you have to do a lot of processing living in New York, you're taking your, you know, you're just taking in so much information1 (8m 19s):And that does not happen in LA and LA you're like sometimes starved for like,2 (8m 25s):Right.1 (8m 26s):But we talked about that. And then, and then by like end of conversation almost. I was like, oh, I'm Jen. I'm so sorry. And he was like, oh, I'm Adam. And I was like, okay, still, no, I had no2 (8m 40s):Adam common name,1 (8m 41s):Common name, whatever. And mom named Doris, whatever. Like, okay. And then we started talking, he said, his wife, what did he say? Oh, he bought a house in south custody. Anyway, all this stuff. He has a kid. And at the end I say, he was talking about what we, what we do. And I'm like, oh, I'm a, I'm a writer. And I'm like trying to write TV, but I also consult, I just started this business, but I wasn't, you know, I was a therapist and for felons and like, and then he got really into that. And then I said, oh, what are you doing? And he's like, oh, I was, I think he said I was in the I'm in the music business. I said, oh, that's cool. I thought he was like a producer, like maybe a classical composer or something. I don't know. That's where my mind went. And I'm like, oh, like, what do you do?1 (9m 22s):And then he said, I was in and I said, oh, what kind of music? He's like, I was in a rap trio. And I was like, wait a minute, a rap tree endorsed by this. By this time it was like, biting me. You know, it's like a whole, I'm like, oh, a rap trio. And I couldn't the only rap trio I could think of was run DMC. And I'm like, oh, he's not in that. You know, he's a white dude. There's no way. And I'm like, oh crap trio. And I was like, house of pain, Cypress hill. Like I couldn't get it together. And then I was like, and then it dawned on me. And I said, oh, and he said something, like I said, I don't remember how it came up. And he's like, oh, I'm Adam Horwitz. And I was like, oh, I was like, of course.1 (10m 2s):I said, oh my God. And then I didn't know what to say. So I just said, cause he just moved. He actually, he moved to south Pasadena, wait before I moved to Pasadena. But I said welcome to Pasadena.2 (10m 16s):Right. Because the minute, you know, it's a celebrity. It's like, it changes the ions. Wait. Yes.1 (10m 21s):Thank you. You welcome to you too.2 (10m 24s):So what I think is so interesting and must be so well, I don't know. I don't know if it's annoying or whatever it is, celebrities. You, they must have to always be in a process of deciding with when they're interacting with people, they don't know what are we going to do with this fact, like, do you know who I am? Do you not know who I am? If you know who I am, just, what does that mean? Is that why you're talking to me? And then, but he opened one of the first things you said that he said was that his mom's name was, I mean, I guess that's not unusual, but I was thinking to myself when you said that I was thinking, oh, was he hoping That would confirm not that his dad is famous.2 (11m 10s):His dad is1 (11m 10s):Trail horo. Israel.2 (11m 12s):Yeah. He's a kind of a terrible guy though.1 (11m 16s):I heard is there. I think they're both dead. I mean, from what I got, I don't know. I know he has a sister. I don't know. But like he seemed like the kind, yes, you're right. Like it must be so weird. And also I literally was so into my own world. It's like, so Los Angeles, like I, when I found out that he was, I was super excited because I wanted to say, oh, I saw you at the Metro in Chicago and stuff like that. But then I was like, oh, I can't. And so I got excited, but I also, it was literally like talking to your husband or my husband in that they're old people. Like I wanted to be more excited about the, the youthful version.2 (11m 56s):Right? You want it to be 19 year old, you eating Israel, horrible1 (12m 2s):Adam Harz and being like, let's go on a date or something. But that is not what I, that was not my inclination this time. And also his he's married to this amazing punk hero, Kathleen Hanna from bikini kill who I adore. And I know that, but I didn't bring that up either. But anyway, the point is we exchanged information because we were like, let's walk our dogs. His dog is Terry. It really hairy dog, little girl, dog named Terry. And I said, well, what kind of dog is Terry? And he goes, I don't know, very hairy. And I was like, okay, well, okay. So we may go on a dog-walking adventure. I have no idea, but lovely human, but just like soup. We are super middle age.1 (12m 43s):This is what the moral of this thing was actually not the celebrity. Part of it was the, what hit me the most Gina was the middle age in this of it all. So the other thing is like, nobody gives a shit now about the things that we give a shit about. So the BC boys, I was talking to my niece, she didn't know who that was. And so I was like, oh right. Meaning I still care who they are, but2 (13m 16s):Right. Yeah.1 (13m 17s):Time moves on timeframe.2 (13m 20s):Yeah. Periodically we have kids periodically, they'll come up to you and they'll be like, have you ever heard of this bay? Or like, my son was listening to something and I'm like, and I go, he goes, oh, I've got to play this song for you. It's this band. This is like obscure band or something like that. It was the cure. I go, are you kidding me, dude? I put white face makeup on and wore black and tried to hang my two years in junior high. I knew the cure is okay. So that was one thing. And the other thing was last time.1 (13m 52s):It super nice though. I got to say, if anybody cares, he was not a Dick head.2 (13m 56s):I care. Yeah. That's nice. I'm happy to hear that. But just one last thing about that whole, like being a celebrity, you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't, because on the one hand you, you could have somebody say, oh, it's like pretentious to not say who you are. And on the other hand, people would say, you know, you can't win. You can't, you1 (14m 14s):Can't win. That is the bottom line. Yeah. Yeah.2 (14m 17s):So the other thing was last time we talked, you said, oh, I want to save it for the podcast, but about showcase. So you were talking about getting your kids ready for showcase.1 (14m 28s):Okay. So here's the deal with that. So I, because of this podcast, I'm like, okay, is there a way to make a showcase? Not the shit show that I feel it was now, there may not be, it might be inherent in the thing. Okay. But so I'm teaching fourth year. I like, basically don't even, I don't know what I'm teaching at this point, but not even teaching anymore. I'm done. And my, my, my, my co-teacher took over, but I started noticing as I always do that, that, that the students are like, you know, crazy nervous about the showcase and also crazy nervous about agents and managers and all the things.1 (15m 9s):Now, there is no showcase in LA. There was only a quote meet and greet. There is no showcase in New York. There was only quote, a meet and greet. Look, it gets weirder in Chicago. There was a live showcase and a meet and greet. Now, I don't know what went down, but the bottom line is the ball has been dropped so many times about this showcase and about graduation and about launching that at this point, the ball is just dead in a heap deflated. Okay. So I said, okay, well, what can I do to make this fucking situation better? Because I know what it's like to be there and be like, oh my God, I'm falling behind. What if so then I'm like, okay, everybody, here's what we're going to do.1 (15m 52s):I am going to email everyone I know in LA and everywhere and say, come to this showcase and watch your digital link. They have a virtual showcase. But the problem with that is nobody. If nobody gets sees it, it doesn't matter. And so it was made in a form beans where it looked like spam. So it went to everybody's spam. So no casting directors and no agents got the fucking link. And I realized that because I told a student of mine, I said, listen, you want to be repped by this one agency, let's create a letter to them. Let's pitch them. And so then I get a call from the agent saying, we loved this letter.1 (16m 33s):Also, thank you for including, we didn't think there was a showcase.4 (16m 37s):Oh my gosh.1 (16m 39s):And I said, what's,2 (16m 41s):This has to do with just the fact that like, there's been all this administrative,1 (16m 45s):I think it's, COVID meets the problem with conservatories, which is that they do not think that launching their students is an important part part of their job. Right? Right. So it falls to nobody. And so the person in charge bless her heart is one marketing person that knows nothing. I don't believe about acting or the entertainment industry at all. There is no Jane alderman. There, there is no, at least. So I stepped in to be like the proxy, Jane alderman with another adjunct. And we were like, okay, well, how do we do this? So I am happy to say that after literally making maybe 43 phone calls, everyone has the link.1 (17m 26s):People are coming to the showcases. Now my thing is to do the meet and greet in LA to try to get people there because these, these kiddos are coming to LA, there is no showcase. I'm like, well, we, what are we doing? Like we have to have something like, so, and I also just, you know, and I know these kids, like these are my students. So like, I want to meet them. And then, so now I'm getting everyone I know to come to the meet, greet in the business and2 (17m 51s):The money thing. Like, they're like, oh, well we have, we can do it online. And so we don't have to pay for, to rent the space for,1 (17m 59s):So they wouldn't even tell me, they wouldn't even tell me. They didn't even want to give me the invite to the LA thing. I had to like fight to get the, I don't understand what is going on. But I was like, listen, all right,2 (18m 11s):DePaul, I'm going to tell you something right now in DePaul. You want to be well-regarded you want to be number one. You want to always talk about your, your alum or even not your alum. People who, who went and got kicked out about their great successes. And you don't, but you don't want to do anything to get there. And that is not how it works, how it works is you put a lot of energy and I'm not saying at the expense of teachers or whatever, but you put a lot of energy and effort into not just hyping your students, but hyping your school.2 (18m 51s):Like it should be that your school is saying, have we got a crew for you? Yeah.1 (18m 56s):And which is what I then stepped in and had to do and be like, these kids are dope. Come see this, look at this link and then come to the thing. And so all the casting and agents in Chicago are now coming. Thank God, because guess who, there was one person RSVP2 (19m 14s):Girl, and you need a bonus1 (19m 16s):Stroke. Here's what we're doing. So then I said, okay, because I'm always thinking, I'm like, okay, well, here's what I'm doing. I'm developing a launching curriculum, which I think I told you about, like, I'm developing a day, one BFA for day one of the fourth year. Here's what we're going to do to launch you. And it's not just about the showcase. It's about mentorship. It's about how can we hook you up with somebody that's in what you want to do? How can we do that? And I'm going to pitch it. I'm going to say, here you pay me $120,000. And I will sell you this program and, and hook you up with teachers and people. I know that can step in and do this with me. Like you like people in the business, like people who are on different coasts, like duh, and then we will.1 (19m 58s):So, and if you don't want to buy it, DePaul theater school, we're selling it to Northwestern or NYU or any anyone.2 (20m 4s):Well, I was going to ask, do you know, if other conservatories are doing showcases and doing,1 (20m 9s):And they are, and they are doing it and they are, they are doing it. I, from what I can see, Gina, they're doing it better. I don't know if it's, you know, how good it is. But I do know that like other showcases released their digital showcase because of the pandemic on actors, accessing and town and casting networks, which DePaul did not do. Oh2 (20m 30s):My God.1 (20m 32s):So here's, so that is not okay with me because I went there and I, I do care about it because of this podcast. I also know that these kids having watched them at, you know, 21 year olds, 22 year olds, max, they're busting their ass, just like you. And I we're busting our ass. Like, look, they're busting their ass more than we were, but you and I busted her ass too. And I feel like we didn't get what we needed from the launch process. And what, what will happen is no one will people and people stopped going to theater school. Is that what you want? Or do you want to upgrade like level?1 (21m 13s):Let me run this by. There's a lot of people I hate.2 (21m 24s):Exactly, exactly. Okay. So the thing I wanted to run by you is about storytelling. I signed up for this workshop in my town. We have a little community theater and they sometimes have little workshops and I did improv there one time. And actually by the way, doing improv there, I I'm, I still am terrified of it. And I still don't feel like I'm I do well, but add it. But I reduced my fear somewhat by just aging within, and then we had a performance and my whole family came and yeah, it was, yeah.1 (22m 3s):Why don't we talk about what2 (22m 5s):She like two years ago or three years ago, actually. Yeah. Three or maybe even four years ago now. But anyway, on Sunday I went to, they ha they had a workshop led by a storyteller from the moth and she taught us, you know, how to, so there was only five of us there. One person, only one person absolutely knew when he came in. Exactly what story he wanted to tell. The rest of us were like, I have certain things that are coming to mind. Of course my thing. And I said, I was, I just owned it from the beginning was I've written essays. And I've, you know, written a lot about my life.2 (22m 46s):And yet I somehow feel like I don't have a story to tell. And she said, that's so common. She was telling this great story about somebody. Cause she does corporate stuff too. She was telling the story about somebody in a workshop, in a corporate workshop who just kept saying, I just, I don't have a story. I don't have a story. The day goes on. And he goes, well, I might have something, my family and I fled Vietnam right before this. And she goes, yeah, that's a story. That's a, that's a story you could tell. Anyway, point being, we're putting these stories together and we're going to perform them on Friday.2 (23m 34s):And the I'll say there is something about the process of working on it. That has been, it's not exactly healing, cause this is not a, for me at all. It's something I'm telling a story about when I lived in that apartment on Lil and Libby got me this job at the bakery and while we were, and she was very assiduous about being to work on time. And1 (24m 9s):I remember the, was it the red hen? Oh, we shouldn't say it out loud.2 (24m 12s):I actually, I really don't remember the name. I think it might have been called great Plains. I don't know. Okay. I don't think it's there anymore. And one of the things that was our task was to deal with the mice that inevitably came into the, in the flour sacks and stuff like that in the back. And, but I never she'd said to me, we have to deal with the mice, but I somehow, I hadn't really, really thought that through. And the way we were meant to deal with the mice was hit them over the head with a shovel.1 (24m 47s):Oh. So, so murder of the mice2 (24m 50s):Were into the mice. And so my story is about watching this five foot tall, gorgeous little, just, I mean, she looks like a bird, this girl, woman now, but she was a girl. Then I'm just swinging the shovel over her head and bringing it down. And then just very like with, with zero expression, taking paper towels and picking it up and throw it in the trash, washing her hands and making it back to the register in time for the next customer who came in. And my point of it, of the story is that's. That was one of my most important lessons about the difference between being poor and being broke because I was broke, you know, and always looking for jobs and always working through school.2 (25m 35s):But if it came to smashing a mouse over the head with a shovel, I'm just going to quit that job and go find another job, selling clothes at express. But Libby did not have such luxuries. She had to take the jobs that she could get. And she had to guard them with her life because as even, even with the amount of time she worked, there was a period of time where she would tell me, like, I'm going to bed hungry a lot of nights. And I couldn't help her, you know, because I was broke. I just, I didn't have we bought ramen. I mean, we right. Like six days a week.2 (26m 16s):And so it's about that. And so there's something about, but, but the fact that it's about this epoch in my life yeah. Which I haven't really written that much about, I've written about my childhood and I've written about things that are more contemporary, but you have a lot of experience with storytelling. And I'm curious to know what role that has played in sort of, you know, for one thing, the ability to string together, kind of the, of your life into a cohesive narrative. If, if1 (26m 47s):That's2 (26m 47s):Something that has been helpful or if maybe you have healed in some way, maybe from your one person show,1 (26m 53s):I am Gina. What comes to mind? Like what first came to mind when you were talking about your experience with this storytelling thing? Is it, what, what is the coolest thing to me about storytelling? Like this live lit as we like to call it in Chicago, just because I, storytelling people think it's like, we started calling it live live because people thought it was like, you know, Renaissance fair storytelling. Right. We had like a cheese ball, it's it doesn't matter. It's storytelling. So storytelling, bridges the gap for me. And maybe you have acting and writing. So it is both performance and writing, which I think is brilliant. I think acting is for the birds.1 (27m 35s):Like I just do. I think acting is really hard. I'm not very good at it. Not because I'm not a good person, but that's what I'm saying. I'm not very good at it because I don't like it as much as I like telling a story. That's my story. That also has a performance aspect to it. And it heals the acting thing for me. So you are acting, you are acting, you're not like you in your kitchen, just like when we do a podcast where there's a part of us, that's acting, it's not, you know, it just is what it is. So I think that that is extremely healing. And what, I wonder if it's extremely healing for you, because I feel like in terms of the acting thing, I know that post-graduation from an acting conservatory, you talk about just completely shutting down, completely not shutting down to the acting part of yourself.1 (28m 25s):And I think like through your son and then through this podcast and through writing television and now through storytelling and like your dip into improv, you're, you're healing, the actor part of yourself.2 (28m 37s):That's right. That's right. It1 (28m 38s):Wouldn't surprise me. If you went on to do acting like started acting in plays and stuff. Again,2 (28m 44s):I'm not going to lie. I'm really thinking about it at this point in time. I still feel like it's a bridge too far, just because I have nobody to spell me at home. You know, I can't ask my husband to leave his job so I can go to a play. But at some point, I mean, you know, they're not going to be this age forever. At some point I will be able to do that. And I do have designs on doing that actually.1 (29m 8s):Yeah. And I think, and I think you, I think this storytelling is brilliant because I think the cool thing about storytelling, as well as like you could go to New York city and do them off one night. It's not a, it's not a commitment like the play. In fact, you could do the risk thing that I did in New York. Like the rest of the podcast is live performances in New York. So all this to say that I think storytelling is a fantastic way to heal the part of ourselves that wants to be a performer, but definitely doesn't want, is not ready to take all the trappings and bullshit. That is a professional acting career, which is garbage. Like I got to say, like I just tell my students is to like the part of the business, which is why this is so fraught because it's garbage.1 (29m 55s):That's why you don't like it. But that doesn't mean it's not worth it to you. If you can find a way to make it worth it to you, the competition, the rejection, the then go for it. But what if that is bothersome? And like, you don't want to deal, like what about live lit? Like what about improv? What if there's so many other things? And so like, wouldn't it have been awesome. Gina. If someone had come to us fourth year and been like, Hey, you know what, maybe you get really nervous and that panic attacks when you have to audition. But what about like writing this thing and telling your story on, you know, on a stage somewhere where you get to hold the piece of paper2 (30m 34s):Today on the podcast, we are talking to Jeremy Owen. Jeremy is a storyteller and the creator of a storytelling show called George being ridiculous, which is premiering ask Stephanie, I think tomorrow or the next day, check it out. Please enjoy our conversation with Jeremy Owens. Wow. Congratulations. Jeremy Owens. You survive theater school. I want to hear this fabulous story. I missed the beat.1 (31m 11s):Yeah. So Gina, miss the beginning. So I was just basically saying that everyone's rusty and it's really good. We're talking about this because also Gina's performing storytelling this weekend and we were just talking about rusty. It was, everyone was after two years of not doing live lit stuff. And then Jeremy tells me that he did a show and of course we can, you don't have to use names and all that, but like did a show and it went south and by south, he's going to tell us what that means. It really went south. So7 (31m 41s):It really, when up it's like so complicated. Okay. So I was doing a fundraiser first off. I was like, I there's no way, like, who wants to watch me talk on zoom? Like we're doing that all the time. Like who even cares? How can this benefit anyone? But it's a fundraiser. My sister-in-law asked me amazing. I love it. Amen. Let's go. Let's do it. So we're doing it. And I, okay. I was not as cautious. And as careful as I should have been the show, I mean, you done the show, you did a show. I don't know if I can talk about your story, but you like got your tooth knocked out. That's1 (32m 22s):Oh, I believe me. I did. I gave a blow job and my back lower fell out. Yeah.7 (32m 28s):That's a story2 (32m 28s):Story. I7 (32m 31s):Share that story, but That's good. That's the, but that's like kind of the fuel it's like, you don't know what's going to happen. Some things are like, you know, super lovey Dubby. Sometimes somebody tells a story about a blow job and their tooth gets knocked out. It's like not a big deal. Like this is the world we live in. But I mean, if you're doing a corporate fundraiser for someone and I just, Alex, if you're listening, I love you. I just was not clued in. And that's my fault. That's not her fault. It's my fault. I accept responsibility for all those things. This is my disclaimer for my, for my sister-in-law. I accept all the responsibility for that. I just should have been more cautious.7 (33m 11s):Right. So if you're up for doing show or tea, fall out from low jobs, it's not that maybe not the best for like a board. Like those are the stories that people,1 (33m 20s):I7 (33m 20s):Didn't know1 (33m 21s):It is. If I'm on the fucking board, I'd probably not get,7 (33m 24s):I know, same for me. I mean, we went to theater school and I've decided like, as that has passed me by that we're not the same as like Bob down the street who is like wildly offended by anything, you know, sexual or1 (33m 42s):Anything2 (33m 42s):You ever get used to that, by the way, I, I I'm always like, oh really? We have to do this thing where I have to pretend like I'm talking to my grandma. Like you're a full grown adult standing in front of me. What's that?1 (33m 53s):What's your story about, please tell me something amazing. Gross, please.7 (33m 56s):I didn't even get to my story. That's the thing. Okay. So It wasn't even me. I wish it were me. It was like six or seven people. And I think we got like three or four in. And so as they're happening, I'm like, oh wow. That person said, fuck, oh no, this person's talking about porn. Oh, wow. Like things that like, just don't register for me. Right. Because I guess theater school. It's like, none of that registers for me. I'm not offended by anything other than like racist, white assholes.7 (34m 38s):Anything else? It doesn't register me. I don't. I know. I just don't care. I'm not bothered. So2 (34m 45s):Charity though. I mean,1 (34m 47s):It was like, there was it like the nuns of like a sister.7 (34m 50s):Oh, I don't want to say there. I don't want to say their name. I'll tell you1 (34m 54s):What Sater7 (34m 56s):Well, they're like1 (34m 58s):Healthcare, charity. He doesn't want7 (35m 1s):. Yes. I mean, it's a great charity. They do wonderful things. It's awesome. Right. But they weren't ready for1 (35m 12s):Me. So what happened? It just went blank.7 (35m 15s):Like we're just plopping along and I'm like so excited. Cause it's like July 20, 20. I have only been like talking to my dog and my husband. Right. So this is happening and I'm listening to stories. I'm having a great time. This is like amazing loving life porn who cares, you know, whatever. And then all of a sudden it stops working. Like I don't see anything. And I'm like, oh my God, this is my brother-in-law. I was like running the tech. I'm like, oh no,1 (35m 44s):He thought it was a tech thing. Of course.7 (35m 46s):I was like, well, this happened to me. I was taking this class online this weekend and the internet I had and I was like, oh shit. Like in the middle of class, I'm like, great. So now they think I'm an asshole. I just left class early. So I'm just like, this is dead. Right. Then they come, my sister-in-law calls me and tells me what's happening. And they're all furious. And they just, instead of like a conversation or something, or like this is coming or we're so disappointed, it was just like, this is over now. Like just totally dead. The bad part about that is that none of us knew. And there was no communication with me. Other if it hadn't been my sister-in-law, I don't know if I would, I would still be here on my computer.7 (36m 31s):Probably.1 (36m 32s):That's hilarious right there. Like, are you there yet?7 (36m 36s):Hello? Hi. Hi. They just didn't communicate at1 (36m 40s):All.2 (36m 43s):We're like, really? I'm getting irritated about this. Listen to the story is like, I don't know any of the players, but I feel like, I feel like we're the people we're pretending people are pretending that they don't watch porn or that they don't swear or, you know, like, why do I have to do this? Pretending I just love unless there was children in the audience and maybe there were,7 (37m 4s):I don't think so. Like, you know, it's like, I had like friends who1 (37m 8s):I curated it. Where you did you7 (37m 10s):Find, I mean, it's all, basically this entire thing is my fault. But like1 (37m 15s):You, you found everybody.7 (37m 17s):I found everybody, I got everybody. This was like a great in my mind was this is like a greatest hits. This is like, awesome.1 (37m 24s):It's the one time I'm so grateful. I was not asked to do anything. Like7 (37m 29s):It was just so weird. And there's like, I don't know it. Yeah, it was. But again,1 (37m 37s):I do the story for the ages. I love it. All of a sudden, it just goes blank.7 (37m 41s):I'm in the home. This is a story I'm going to, I just went blank. I didn't know what to do. Everything was gone. Just talking about those things. It doesn't, I don't find that if, when I say porn, I'm not like, this is the butthole. Like it wasn't like, you know what?2 (37m 59s):I7 (37m 59s):Watched porn. Right. That's not offensive to me.1 (38m 5s):I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah. Like Gina was saying like we're okay. So that went south. Like if did you feel I'm really concerned? Like, cause I would have probably had to check in somewhere because I would have been like, I curated this motherfucker and now I caused this whole fucking7 (38m 23s):I'm still like T like we have a show coming up in like a week at Steppenwolf. And I had one of the storytellers from that show sent me a is doing the show at Steppenwolf. And I like had a moment because his story is like, because of that. And because I'm like wildly triggered, I was like, Hey, maybe you could do this story about tennis or whatever. And he's like, do you need a PG story? Like what's going on? And then I was like, and then I re-read a story. And I was like, I do not his stories about sex.7 (39m 5s):I do not find this offensive. This is okay. I'm person totally traumatized. And then I had to go back and be like, oh God, remember that thing that happened in 2020, I'm just totally melted from that. And your story is great and everything's fine. I'm just having a moment. I'm going to calm down2 (39m 24s):And see what happens to me though. When I hear w whenever my antenna go up, whenever I hear like, oh, that's offensive to me. That just automatically means you're doing behavior that you feel really ashamed of. And so you want to shame me instead of just own the truth of whatever it is you're doing. This is exactly what happens on the Handmaid's tale. You know, it's all about the Bible, but then they're just like holding people down and raping them. So I just think it's a little bit of a soft sign for you've got trouble. If adults are saying that referencing the fact that there is porn is7 (39m 58s):Troublesome. Yeah.1 (40m 2s):Oh my God. I can just, okay. I would have been so traumatized. So I hear you. And I also think that, like, it's interesting, I've had a similar thing where like, on this podcast, I've mentioned my husband's job. I have mentioned. And so Gina and I always talk about, well, we will not always, but we've had to talk about this of like, what is the, and it's like a bigger thing in our society right. In the world. Like, where do I draw the line of like, can I stand behind this? I guess that's what it is. It's like, can I stand? If I'm called to the carpet, whoever God, the board, whoever, and say, stand behind this show. These words can.1 (40m 43s):And that's when, if I can stand behind it and I am willing to answer for it. And I'm like, I'm all in. If I feel like I'm wishy washy, then I feel like it's going to go south. And then I it's weird. It's a weird thing. It's like when to cut, when to not cut, now, you didn't have the ability I'm fucking lives to do7 (41m 6s):That. What1 (41m 7s):Happens in live television, right? When someone who goes bonkers or has a stroke, God forbid, or it's like, you don't know what to do. So live is a different thing. Like it's different with a podcast. We can cut. We can, but like a live show, whether zoom or on stage, there is this moment. So when I did my solo show, Samantha Irby, Sam Irby opened for me. Right. Ramus. Now wasn't famous then. But it was always a Reverend and a bad-ass right. But data story at my show and my uncle were there about SAC,7 (41m 38s):Right.1 (41m 38s):Eight leakage and fluids. And I was like, oh. And then I thought, oh, I wanted to run on stage and be like, ah, this is too much. But then I thought you invited this person. This is their jam. This7 (41m 54s):We love. Right.1 (41m 58s):What, what, okay, sit, sit, and just deal with it. And if my uncle and my uncle was really offended and like, fuck that. Okay. So, but it's hard to do. I was squirming. So you must've been squirming when you, when your, when your person called you and was like, cause you, you found these people. But I think sometimes we squirm, right? Sometimes we squirm,7 (42m 21s):Oh my God, I was dying. Cause it's like, I don't, I don't want to disappoint any of, either of you, this computer, this desk. And I just want to make everyone so happy all the time. And I don't want anyone upset with me or like, I don't want to cause any problems, nothing. I want you all happy.1 (42m 42s):And sometimes despite our best people, pleasing efforts, like shit goes south. Like that is the story of shit going south. Despite Being a good person, having gone to college, go to it, shit still goes south. So7 (42m 55s):I vote like1 (42m 58s):You're very active, like socially.2 (43m 2s):So let's, let's talk about you and your experiences. Did you go to DePaul?7 (43m 7s):I wish I had gone to DePaul, but I, from listening to this podcast, I get that. I don't know. I went to Roosevelt university for grad school.2 (43m 17s):Cool. Tell us everything. Tell us, like, when you decided you wanted to be an actor and when you decided you wanted to go to theater school, tell us everything.7 (43m 25s):Well, for me, I grew up in Arkansas. So I went to the university of Arkansas and I started out as like a journalism and a political science major. But then they, the department, the journalism department had us take a speech class. Like how does speak in theater class, you know, to get rid of your accent basically. Cause we're all Arkansans. We sound like, you know, we're in God, but the wind or whatever. So we took this class and I had growing up and like my small town, I always loved theater. I'd done community theater and the whole thing. So when I took that class and like, everyone in there is like, you know, so alive and so like interesting and like, like real, I was like, well, this is going to be a problem.7 (44m 17s):So then I, like, I signed up for, you know, the second semester of the class. And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna audition for these one acts. And then so slowly I just migrated into the theater department and completely dropped journalism, political science, all of it. And disappointed my parents ruined their lives, you know, the whole thing. So I didn't really understand, like by the, by the end of my time in undergrad, I was like, I don't really, it's like, you're young. It's like, I don't understand grad school. I don't know. But that seems to be thing that I, there was a grad program that had just started there, like, like near the end of my time there.7 (44m 59s):And I was like, I guess that's what I'm supposed to do. And so everyone told me to go to Chicago. I hadn't ever been to Chicago. I knew nothing about it. Never even visited, but I was like, okay. They're like funny people should go to Chicago. And I'm like, oh, I'm funny. So I guess that's where I'll go.1 (45m 15s):You are funny. So it's good. You went there.7 (45m 17s):Thanks. So, so I auditioned at IRDAs and did that whole thing. And then I got a call back from them and I, it was like weird. Like I thought there was going to be like some like bigger process or something. Like, am I going to, I was like, ready, you know, with like my other, like, do you want 16 bars? Do you need other other monologues? Like, well, what's the deal? And it was just kind of like a done thing. So I was like, Yeah, it's like at the callback, there was like, it was an IRDAs. And it's like, you'd go to the person's hotel room, which now seems really creepy what, with a couple other people.7 (45m 57s):And it just seemed like I liked the person who did the interview and I was like, they're in Chicago. This seems great. I2 (46m 7s):Like to act in a hotel room. I've never7 (46m 9s):Done. Like, the audition was in, like, I don't even know where it was like the ballroom. It was like, there was like a black box sort of like made up situation. So you audition and then like the next day or a few hours later, you get like a sheet with a little list of the schools that want to like talk to you or whatever. And we have been like through the ringer with my undergrad teacher and she's like, okay, you need to have, like, you had like your folder with your monologues. And like, if someone wanted a song, like your whole thing, it's like bootcamp and you're ready. So I'm like prepared for somebody to ask me to do anything. And I don't know, I got called back to like a lot of places, which I was like, oh my God, none of them asked me for anything.7 (46m 54s):Which maybe looking back, maybe that was like, not a great situation. I don't know what that means.2 (46m 60s):They were just the, and the call back. They were just meeting you. Right. They were just wanting to know if you were like,7 (47m 4s):Yeah, I guess1 (47m 6s):You're acting probably wow. Like really? They probably would have if they were on the fence, but that probably wasn't that they probably wanted to do what, you know, they, they, a chemistry breed or whatever the fuck they call it. Right.7 (47m 18s):Yeah. I guess. But this meaning with the person at Roosevelt, it's like, she was nice. It was great. It felt good. So I was like, all right, maybe that's where I'm going. And I knew I wanted to get Chicago. So like, that was, that was the deal.2 (47m 36s):It's an undergrad. You were not thinking this at all. I'm guessing you don't come from a performing family or you, you weren't doing this in high school.7 (47m 44s):Oh my God. Well, there was like the junior play or whatever that like pays for the prom, you know, like that kind of a situation. But otherwise, like I did community theater and I'm from a town of like 10,000 people. So there wasn't like really a community theater. I did Annie and Mike, I don't know, 10th grade or something.1 (48m 3s):Amazing.7 (48m 4s):Really upset. I couldn't be Annie. I was like a Senator. And like the apple salesman. I was like that guy I'm like running around doing whatever anybody wanted me to do.1 (48m 20s):Funny. That's why he could do a lot funny.2 (48m 23s):Yeah. Interchangeable. Okay. So day one, you're at Roosevelt. Is this the education that you thought you were going to get7 (48m 32s):Funny? You should ask. So this, when I went, which was, this was 2000 yes. 2000. So it was their first year of their MFA program.1 (48m 44s):Oh shit.7 (48m 46s):Oh shit is right. They accepted 30 people take that in verse1 (48m 54s):307 (48m 55s):MFA. Oh yeah.1 (48m 57s):It's too many people that just like five.7 (49m 0s):Thank you. I think that if I'm being kind, I think they accepted a huge amount of people thinking that, you know, with everything going on that like maybe 10, which is still too many would accept. So there were 30 of us. So we're there on the first day. And I'm just like, this seems , I don't know anything about what this experience is supposed to be, but 30 people that's like, that's like an entire MFA program, you know, that's like three years of people or more So immediately.7 (49m 44s):I was just like,1 (49m 45s):Hmm,7 (49m 47s):This doesn't seem right. But you know, I was like 24. So I'm like so happy to be there. I'm living in my friend's base. My friend's mom's basement until I find an apartment just like, you know, desperate twenties times. So immediately. I was like, I, this is hi. All right.1 (50m 11s):I think I should get off this rollercoaster right now, but it's already going, right?7 (50m 16s):Yeah, totally. I just like was on. And because I didn't have like necessarily the support of my parents where this entire thing, I was like, fight or flight. Like I will do this. If I have to hang on to the side of the building and sleep like that, or like, whatever it is, I'm gonna do this. So I did it.2 (50m 49s):And is it a typical curriculum, voice and speech and movement and all that stuff?7 (50m 54s):Yeah. I was sort of surprised by all of it. The program that I did in undergrad, I felt, I don't know. I guess everyone in undergrad, if you're doing theater stuff there, you think that like, what you're doing is like enough and great. And that's how everything's going to go. So to spend like three hours a day in a movement class, suddenly when you're like, God damn it, let me do a monologue or a scene or sing a song. Like let me work. You know, I understand that that is also work and it's fundamental, but it was really shocking to me.1 (51m 37s):You know, what's interesting is like, and you're not the first person that I've, I felt this, that we've had on the show is like, what I would eat. Like you should have maybe gone right to second city and just done that call that five-year conservatives And gotten the fuck out, but it's not accredited. It's not like a real university that would probably make your parents even more like unhappy. And so, but like you needed like a professional program, like there's conservatory training for actors and then there's professional programs. And I wish I had done, so. Okay. But you're in this. How long was the Roosevelt MFA program?7 (52m 15s):Three years. Oh,1 (52m 16s):Fuck. Right.2 (52m 18s):And was it the thing where you can't perform the first year, but then you do and you're in the casting pool with VFS.7 (52m 26s):Yeah, I, we couldn't perform in the first year though, at the end of the first semester, they opened up an audition to be an intern at Chicago Shakespeare, which was like super exciting. So I auditioned and then I was doing the second semester, I got to be an intern and be on stage and do king Lear, Chicago, Shakespeare. I mean, I was like, you know, a dude, a homeless person running around. Oh, we got it. Yeah. So then I was like, oh no, this is great. I'm like with like these amazing people that I don't know who they are yet, but I will.7 (53m 9s):And there, those people are amazing2 (53m 12s):In that7 (53m 13s):Greg VIN CLER.1 (53m 15s):Oh yeah. was Barbara Gaines directing7 (53m 18s):Barbara Gaines director.1 (53m 20s):Yeah. She's amazing. She's she's famous for, for me, for my one audition I had there, she yawned during my whole model to be fair, but to be fair, it was really boring. Like, it was really boring. She was basically doing what I wish I could have done. It was boring. My shit was boring. She was like this. Can't see. But yeah, she was rude, but apropos I sucked anyway. Okay. So you were, you got to work at shakes and so you were like, okay, but did you make friends? What was the vibe like? BFA was the BFA program established at that time?7 (54m 2s):I think so. Oh, and that part. Okay. Like whatever I'll say about Roosevelt, which I don't have, I don't know necessarily great things to say about the program. It doesn't even exist anymore, PS, by the way. But the BFA program, the program for undergrads, I thought that was like, excellent. Like, I was like happy for those kids. Like that seemed like good. And they were having a good time, but for us it was just, I don't know. It just felt kind of sad and different.2 (54m 26s):So your parents were psyched about the idea of you being a journalist. That's what they thought you were going to.7 (54m 32s):I think the imaginary plan was that I would, or what I sold them at the time was I'm gonna get this journalism degree and then I'm gonna go to law school.1 (54m 43s):Oh,2 (54m 45s):Right. That's everybody's, catch-all hilarious.7 (54m 48s):So that's what I'm going to do. But then I was like, but these plays, these people, it's really the people that are purchased more fun.2 (54m 57s):I actually got dressed so many people in for exactly that reason. It's just something that's like tribal feeling that you don't know that you don't have it until you find it. And then you go, oh my God.7 (55m 8s):Yeah. It was really, it was really all encompassing. I was like, well, I can't not be with these people.2 (55m 15s):What kind of shows did you do there at Roosevelt?7 (55m 18s):I all right. So, so there was that first year experience. And then I don't know. I let's see, I did my last year.1 (55m 30s):Yeah. It just sticks out in your brain7 (55m 33s):Threepenny opera. And then there was this weird Asian adoptation of the rope by whatever old Greek guy,2 (55m 47s):Asian adaptation.7 (55m 48s):So here's one of the weird things about the program. So there were a couple of classes that made zero sense that we were taking as actors. One was, we all had to take a stage management management course. I don't know. Did you guys have to know1 (56m 5s):I7 (56m 5s):Was like1 (56m 5s):Crew, but I don't even know. No.7 (56m 8s):Well, yeah, like working on a cruise, like that's normal, but in an entire semester demo devoted to stage management just seems kind of rude.2 (56m 18s):It sounds like they needed stage managers for their shows1 (56m 22s):Teachers. Yeah.7 (56m 25s):And then there is a professor there who white lady who loved Asian theater. And so, yeah. Pause for that1 (56m 37s):PF chains of, she was trying to be the PF Chang's PF J7 (56m 44s):God lover. I mean, yes. I'm interested in Asian theater too, but everyone was required as part of the MFA program to take an Asian theater class. So, which is interesting. I'm not knocking like any of that, but the PA I don't know the possibility of me being in an Asian.2 (57m 7s):Yeah. Like what's the really,1 (57m 11s):It just sounds like she had a thing for her thing was Asian theater and she wanted everyone else's thing.7 (57m 16s):Total your thing. She had studied in, I don't know, Japan, I think, and had done this whole program and it was like her, she may even have like a PhD on it. I don't really know, but that was her thing and good for her. Awesome.1 (57m 31s):Why are you teaching? But it's7 (57m 33s):Not practical. Yeah. It just seems like weird. So the play I did, I did the, the rope, which is like a Greek play. Never2 (57m 42s):Heard of it.1 (57m 43s):I wish you had done the rain anyway.7 (57m 48s):So she translated the play into a Kyogen style thing, which is a very specific Asian theater style play. Not only that, not only that, but like, I have always been openly unapologetically sort of who I am, which means, hello, I'm a homosexual and it's clear and I'm not like afraid of that as an actor or a person. So I played the, yeah, get ready. I played the, I don't want to call it like the evil sister, but I played like the villain in the play, which was like an older, which type woman in the play.7 (58m 40s):And that was supposed to be hilarious.1 (58m 48s):That's really where we're headed in the arts. I'm also saying the arts in the logs shit went down. Not that7 (58m 56s):Some weird shipments out. Yeah. So it's like thinking about that now you would like wants to like light all of Chicago on fire. Right? Correct. But at the time, this I guess was like, cool, cool. And inventive to make the one gay guy that you were Sure was gay play a woman Asian drag. Oh my gosh. The whole thing is like Asian themed rides. and the whole thing I don't, I can't say for sure, but I don't think1 (59m 39s):So. What the fuck?7 (59m 42s):So just a bunch of white people running around and kimonos speaking in a very like, you know, meter to style Asian thing. And I'm a woman also.2 (59m 53s):I wish we had a video. I really want to watch this play. I mean, just like for a snippet, because you know, when you think of yourself and how seriously you took a role when you were young and you and you, and you just in your mind's eye, even if there's no video and you just imagine, like, what does this actually look like? And that's always looks funny, no matter what or sad. If it's a comedy, it looks sad. And if it's True. So that was one. Did you have any roles that you liked?7 (1h 0m 29s):I mean, kind of, well, there was like a, a directing project that one of my friends did. It was like a Steve Martin one act. And I was like, yeah, right. Like it was like a legit play that was like funny and good. And I had like the lead and I was like, it was like us, like a straight man that I was playing. And I like felt excited because it felt like I was like reaching. I'm not reaching, but you know what I mean? You're like, oh, this is a play. I'm like, yeah. I was like, do a thing. And I like am working for this goal to do. And I felt like I was successful in it and it felt good.7 (1h 1m 9s):But like, that was probably the one, even in my thesis role, which was like, I was like a random chorus person in Threepenny opera, literally it's my third year. I'm like, Hmm. I have to write 30 pages now on yeah. That's, it's like that.1 (1h 1m 27s):The thing like that, I just, and maybe you guys could chime in. And in terms of the curriculum, there doesn't seem to be an actual curriculum for these programs. Like now that I'm teaching, I'm like, wait, what, what is the7 (1h 1m 42s):Tactical?1 (1h 1m 43s):And what is the piece of paper that you can point to, to say, this is the mission of these three years for these MFA actors. There is no plan. What is the plan? That's what I feel about a lot of this is, and it's still to this day in, in conservatories, what is the fucking plan? Because there doesn't seem to be one and there's not a plan. We shouldn't be charging dollars to these people. I just, I, it should be, then it should be camp, a freak out where we go when we, I don't know. Anyway. So2 (1h 2m 15s):I mean, honestly, like it's, it needs to be treated a little bit more like a school and pass fail, right?7 (1h 2m 23s):Yeah. Like the goal it's like, if you're a journalist, like, can you do these things? Can you write a bituaries? Can you write a news story? Can you do the, you know what I mean? So it's like, when I leave this place, am I going to be able to get a job? And I know that like, everyone's like, theater's like, oh gosh, you're never going to work or whatever, but that, it's just not true. It's like, everything is the same. There are basic skills. Do you have them,1 (1h 2m 50s):There are milestones to meet along the way. And if you, I mean, anyway, I it's just, the more we interview folks, the more I'm like, oh, this whole higher ed situation, fine arts needs a whole overhaul. I don't know what it's going to take, but we'll probably be extinct on the planet before it happened. So I just feel like maybe that's the way it's going to go and okay. But like, okay, so you graduate, you then are like, okay, I have this MFA. Then what happens to you7 (1h 3m 21s):By the end of the program? I was really like, I don't know. I feel like it kind of, it kind of broke me because things like that were happening, which in a way is like, I mean, at the time we didn't have the language for like, you know, playing an Asian woman in a play, like it's offensive. And it's like, not furthering me. It's racist. It's not furthering me as an actor. I'm not going to leave here and like run around and Komodo and place for the rest of my life. It just kind of broke me. And a lot of the, I would say some of the teachers, the whole situation just didn't make me feel good.7 (1h 4m 4s):So at the end, I was like, you know what, maybe? Hm. I don't know. I need, I needed a break from that whole world. I mean, I did audition for awhile, but the shortest while1 (1h 4m 21s):How short,7 (1h 4m 26s):Maybe it was a couple years1 (1h 4m 28s):Because we have Gina's trajectory and mine, mine too. Like I stopped after I stopped after three.7 (1h 4m 35s):Yeah. I was probably three years. Like slowly, just petered out. I mean, I got to the point where I'm like going. So I went on a few theater auditions in the beginning and then I had an agent and I would go on these, like on camera calls. And I would just be like, oh my God, I'm in this giant room with a hundred people that are dressed and look just like me. This is the most pressing thing. Like, I just was like, I can't, this isn't, this doesn't feel good either.2 (1h 5m 6s):I want to hear how eventually, how we get to storytelling. But before we do, I just, I didn't want to leave the whole Roosevelt thing without, I don't think I've really asked anybody this before, but you're not the first person who basically says to us, like, I'm gay. They didn't know what to do with me in theater school. Right.7 (1h 5m 30s):So2 (1h 5m 32s):I don't know if this is a question or a comment or what, or like just a prompt for discussion, but what is the barrier there? I mean, it seems like what you're saying about this role that you got cast, it's like, you're gay. So you'd like to wear drag. Is that what the thinking was?7 (1h 5m 47s):I don't know. For me, it's two things. It's like, there's the gay thing for sure. But also I'm funny. So if you're in a serious theater program, please understand I'm doing some heavy air quotes because every theater program thinks they're a serious theater program. They really do not know what to do with people who are fitting into the definition of serious. And so I think yes, there is like me, the stereotypical gay person or whatever, if I am so there's that person, but that's usually a funny person.7 (1h 6m 28s):And so then they don't like it totally. This is serious. We're doing real serious work here. How can this work?1 (1h 6m 38s):It makes that, that makes me, it makes sense. And it also makes me so angry, just Raging, also like fucking pick different motherfucking material. You've that fits your mother fucking class. You dumb fucks. That is what we're supposed to be doing is picking material that highlight our students and help them grow in a way and not the pick different place.7 (1h 7m 3s):Well, that's really where in that and the whole situation, I feel like that's, that's what sort of killed me is that there wasn't a place for me. No one cared to create one and you are, I already felt like I don't fit here. I don't belong. And so it's just like that slowly, just really like sinks in. So you've got that going on. You've got your there with 30 actors and it was kind of, honestly, it was sort of like easy to just like hide, you know, unless I'm being called to play the Asian lady on the play. So it's just like a kind of just was like, eh,1 (1h 7m 43s):Yeah, you gave up. But they gave up on at first.7 (1h 7m 48s):It is honestly,1 (1h 7m 50s):We give up when people give up on us first, especially as young people.2 (1h 7m 53s):That's true. That's true. So you're in audition rooms after school. You're, you're feeling like this is depressing. There's 5,000 mess and we all look the same. How, how did, how did you evolve from that to what you're currently doing, which I'm going to go on a limb and say is fulfilling to you artistically fulfilling to you what you're doing?7 (1h 8m 13s):I would say yes. Okay. How did that happen? I mean, after, you know, just deciding I'm not going to go on these calls anymore. I just, like, I was like, okay, then I'll, I'm working in a restaurant. So that's what I'm, I'm gonna work in. I work in restaurants now. That's what I do. And I did that for a while. And then I was just like, okay, but wow, this can't be it. Like, even if you, as an actor, like whatever level you achieve as an actor, I think there's always that part of you. Who's like, yeah, but like, can I talk somewhere?7 (1h 8m 54s):And people just like to listen to me or just let me tell, you know, just get really enthusiastic with storytelling at a party. Or like, whatever. I, I didn't know about the moth or a storytelling or any of that stuff. I really was just like this theater experience, grad school was so bad for me. And I'm too afraid to go to second city to do improv because I had sat through, you know, the first year of friends doing that. And I was like, well, I'm not doing this terrifying. So I thought, Hey, what if I get some actors together?7 (1h 9m 37s):And we will write monologues, which is how I thought of it at the beginning, it'll be like loosely based on a theme and we'll do a monologue show. I think I had just seen Nora Ephron's play love loss and what I wore. And so there's all these women on stage telling this like, story. And I was like, oh my God, I'm not a playwright. I can never like, make this happen necessarily. But like, if there are people on a stage and then they're just like one by one, like telling a story based on a theme, like, oh my gosh, this is revolutionary. I've just invented this whole new thing. So that is sort of where I started.1 (1h 10m 14s):When was that? I

Val Chang was just 6 when her father left her and her older brother in their grandmother's care in Peru and came to find work in Miami as a sushi chef. When the Changs reunited in Miami nine years later, it was the start of a long journey together that led to all three being named James Beard Award nominees in 2022 for the restaurant they started as a family, Itamae — which also brought them national acclaim. Val tells co-hosts Carlos Frias, the Miami Herald food editor, and Amy Reyes, editor of Miami.com, why Peruvian food is the best (all Peruvians will say this), why Inca Kola is the best Latin soda (another a Peruvian hot take) and how Japanese and Chinese cuisine influences her food and cooking. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In our season 2 finale, we give updates on Changs affliction with pointy objects, talk about scary times in the elevator, if super moons are real, Tyler's favorite swing dancing story, and the legendary Almond Roca story. Thank you all for listening this season and we look forward to seeing what season 3 brings! As always, we have a smackin outro song selected. Stay safe everyone! See you in Season 3!!!

Savannah's homecoming takes us to P.F. Changs for a big dinner and, from burning blue balls to uncomfortable flirting, we take you on our latest dining adventure. Joe's watching more movies, Aislynn brings back Backyard TV, and we talk about our support button. Freaks, geeks, BrianLovesToRap, and much much more on a great big Dinner Table Talks. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/dinnertabletalks/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dinnertabletalks/support

The first of 3 episodes in "The Lost Tapes" series from Back To Good. In these episodes you will hear pop culture references that no longer matter, opinions that have aged like fine wine and unheard stories from the Back To Good archives. In this first episode of the series we talk frustration with people not knowing how to order food, shrimp tails in cereal bowls, our many many shady deals on OfferUp, losing our parents car at the county fair, and Changs ordeal at the community bathroom.

Mike, Tommy and Kevin give an update on their quest to get the original Adam Banks on the podcast. After they answer a bevy of Quack Questions, including: What's the deal with Koob's parents?; What's the ideal $200 P.F. Changs order?; And where did the name Quackolytes come from? Executive producers: Elsie Barnett, Bryan Berg, Alex Ybarra, Josh Luecht, Bobby Lemaire, Rabbi Lex Rofeberg, Aaron Davis, Ed Scimia, Alex Vlahos, Joyce Eng. Producers: Deborah Chen, Jeremiah Bersche, Adam Ferry, Jarrod Beasley, Lisa Wobig, Anthony Gioffre, Jeff Fantus, Matt Holtwick, Stevie Yanks, J.D. Youngblood, Chris Garland, Sarah Mihalopoulos, Dave Dang, Wayne Perkins, Alex Lopez. You too can become a producer of the show!

A great series by local author Lin Wenpei 林文佩 that introduces traditional Chinese food with a Singapore touch! sku: 9789814791236 Author: 林文佩 Lin Wenpei Publication Date: 30/12/2017 Publisher: 玲子传媒 Lingzi Media Series: 新加坡华族传统食品系列2 Age: 7-9 years 勇于尝试的姐姐天光和贪吃爱玩的弟弟亮亮跟着家中长辈学习制作传统美食，在妙趣横生的过程中了解华族的传统文化，也让家里洋溢着幸福、温暖的笑声。《今天我们包粽子》里天光和亮亮和奶奶一起包粽子，他们买了糯米、五花肉、栗子、香菇还有粽叶和草绳。

Shawn, Evan, and Papa bring in P.F. Changs and the meal does not disappoint. Shawn of course gets his Orange Chicken, Evan gets Egg Rolls and rice, and Papa delights himself with Chow Mien. From top to bottom it's a great meal and that's good because Papa went to the ends of the earth to get it! To contact the podcast, give us eating tips, and get your food reviewed please do so at: moviewool15@gmail.com

Czabe is joined by Andy and Solly for an "Easy Like Sunday Morning" version of the CzabeCast. They discuss the NFL Draft, the time Darrell Green was called "a little shrimp" on draft day, the Rodgers saga, shitty NBA efforts, and why Czabe will never go to a P.F. Changs again!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Peter Wahlbeck ställer in, så gänget gästas av Changs barn istället. Ashkan har börjat missbruka Clubhouse. Mustafa tror inte på fri vilja. Hanif saknar ”den gamla gemenskapen”. Är du Patreon och vill få tillgång till alla avsnitt i sin helhet? Vill du bli Patreon för att få tillgång till allt? Tryck här. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Peter Wahlbeck ställer in, så gänget gästas av Changs barn istället. Ashkan har börjat missbruka Clubhouse. Mustafa tror inte på fri vilja. Hanif saknar ”den gamla gemenskapen”. Är du Patreon och vill få tillgång till alla avsnitt i sin helhet? Vill du bli Patreon för att få tillgång till allt? Tryck här. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mustafa berättar ett skämt. Omar har åkt till Brasilien. Ashkan blir partisekreterare för Moderaterna. Hanif är tillbaks i värmen. Och allt är Changs fel.Gäst: Stefan LöfvenHjälp oss att återuppstå via Patreon eller Swish: 123 605 59 90. Är du Patreon och vill få tillgång till alla avsnitt i sin helhet? Vill du bli Patreon för att få tillgång till allt? Tryck här. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Mustafa berättar ett skämt. Omar har åkt till Brasilien. Ashkan blir partisekreterare för Moderaterna. Hanif är tillbaks i värmen. Och allt är Changs fel.Gäst: Stefan LöfvenHjälp oss att återuppstå via Patreon eller Swish: 123 605 59 90. Är du Patreon och vill få tillgång till alla avsnitt i sin helhet? Vill du bli Patreon för att få tillgång till allt? Tryck här. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

Wieviele Wahrheiten es auf der Welt gibt, das kann vom Wetter abhängen, vom Seegang und davon, wer im richtigen Moment zur Stelle ist. Hunde- und Menschengeschichte des russischen Literaturnobelpreisträgers, gelesen von Burchard Dabinnus. Mit freundlicher Genehmigung des Verlags können wir diesen Podcast bis zum 16.01.2021 anbieten.

How can you make sure you hire the right person for every job? On this episode of the ROI Online Podcast, author and senior-level recruitment expert Brian Mohr shares the key to hiring with purpose.In 2011, Brian Mohr was the Senior Director of Talent Strategy at P.F. Changs and Pei Wei Asian Diner. His job was to make sure any senior-level positions were filled with the best person for the job. As part of his responsibilities, he worked with executive search services, locating individuals who fit the job description best based on what they looked like on paper. He found the experience to be very transactional. It didn't consider whether the applicant's values or personality aligned with the company's, which is often even more important in the long run. So Brian left the company and started his own executive search firm with co-founder Max Hansen, Y Scouts, to fill that missing piece of the recruitment process. He and Max Hansen wrote a book, Hiring with Purpose, to share their human approach to hiring.Culture is something that many, many business owners struggle with. Brian notes that your culture is extremely dependent on the people you hire. if you manage to craft the culture you've always wanted, a single bad employee can corrupt the culture. This puts a lot of stress on entrepreneurs when a job becomes vacant. They feel overwhelmed and worry that they'll hire the wrong person and lose what makes their business so unique in the first place.To avoid this, Brian suggests hiring with a proactive mindset, creating a planning process so you're prepared when a job opens up, speak to stakeholders to see the kinds of people you should be hiring, and research candidates well before their first interview.Although he is skilled in the world of senior-level recruitment, Brian's original dream was to be a musician. When that didn't happen, he started to reflect on his life. He joined an EO forum and made good friends by being vulnerable and showing the good, bad, and the ugly to a group of strangers. Brian began to see the importance of vulnerability in and out of the office. Psychological safety is the biggest part of an individual's success at work. You have to have a place where you can share raw, real emotion with people you trust.Today, Brian's focused on finding ways to bring entrepreneurs together using music, story, and human connection. You can get ahold of Brian here:brian@lifetracks.meLinkedInRead Brian's book:Hiring on Purpose: How the Y Scouts Method Is Revolutionizing the Search for LeadersRead the books referenced in this podcast:How Google Works by Eric Schmidt and Jonathan RosenburgGet your copy Steve Brown's book, The Golden Toilet. Also available on Audible for free when you sign up for a 30-Day Trial Membership!Thinking of starting your own podcast? Buzzsprout's secure and reliable posting allows you to publish podcasts online. Buzzsprout also includes full iTunes support, HTML5 players, show statistics, and WordPress plugins. Get started using this link to receive a $20 Amazon gift card and to help support our show!Support the show (https://cash.app/$stevemfbrown)

Season 3 Episode 43: Get Your Geek On! -- The Malice Corp Geek Enthusiasts and Nerd Aficionados talk about what they've been doing since last episode. What you should be checking out, and what you should stay far away from? - 1:38 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: In A World: Movie Trailer Reactions -- Jumanji: The Next Level - 15:03 -- The Witcher - 19:17 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nerd News: -- Benioff and Weiss leave Star Wars project: The creative team behind Game of Thrones is out on their Star Wars project, and we discuss the ramifications. Along with the reasons why this may have happened. - 23:18 -- Game of Thrones prequel gets series order: House of the Dragon is coming to HBO, and we give the details of what is known so far. - 34:11 -- The Hollywood exec's summit meeting: The heads of the top Hollywood studios got together to talk about the current world of cinema, and gave us a lot to discuss. See the article on Hollywood Reporter at https://bit.ly/2pQvFeh - 42:40 -- Bill Murray, Your new wok chef?! - Bill Murray let it be known he applied for P.F. Changs, and P.F. Changs said your hired. What we want to know is what other celebrities do you want to see in the work place, and where at? - 1:03:33 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Audio Casts (Links Below or search for Malice Corp): -- Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2Xfv29H -- Stitcher - https://bit.ly/2QQfR7w -- Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2EQLy9u -- Podcasts.com - https://bit.ly/2GsfglY -- Google Podcasts - https://bit.ly/2ULDbB9 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Where to Follow on Social Media to Talk All Things Nerd!: -- Website - http://malice-corp.com/ -- Discord - https://discord.gg/F52YJuN -- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/malice_corp -- Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/allthingsnerdpodcast -- Cast Twitter - https://twitter.com/allnerdpodcast -- Mest 5150: https://twitter.com/Mest_MaliceCorp -- Masonic Vader: https://twitter.com/Masonicvader -- IC Zorro: https://twitter.com/ICZorro -- A Bearded Master: https://twitter.com/ABeardedMaster -- Super Whovian Freak: https://twitter.com/SuperWhovianNut ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: #StarWars #GameOfThrones #Jumanji #AllThingsNerd #Podcast #Twitch #Geek #Nerd #Popculture #Comedy #Funny #NerdNews #GeekNews

This week (recorded on November 4, 2019), the ladies get you up to speed on the recent weird news you missed. Cate kicks things off with headlines on bored students who called a suicide hotline listed on their school IDs only to discover it was a sex line, cannabis that had been stuck up a man's nose for 18 years, and the latest plant trend. In Pop Culture, Liz reports on Bill Murray's aspirations to work at a P.F. Changs. In Crime Time, the ladies look back at the mysterious disappearance of Sherri Papini. In Animal Kingdom, Liz attempts to explain how one million cannibal ants escaped a nuclear bunker they had been trapped in. As always, the ladies wrap things up revealing their results to this week's BuzzFeed quiz "Take This Vibe Check Assessment And We'll Tell You What Your Vibe Is." All this and so much more! We now have MERCH! Get our logo and some of Cate and Liz's favorite catch phases on accessories and apparel at eveningboozehour.threadless.com. We're also on Patreon! Support the Evening Booze Hour for as little as $1/month at patreon.com/eveningboozehour and get access to Confidential Confessions, exclusive content for our Patreon Saints! Don't forget to spread the word on social media (Instagram: @eveningboozehour | Twitter: @eveningbooze) and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Below are links to the original sources of the stories featured in this week's episode. • Students called a suicide hotline listed on their ID cards. It was sex hotline instead. CNN https://cnn.it/2pBLyVY • Cannabis retrieved from man's nose 18 years after he tried to smuggle it into prison Sky News https://bit.ly/33nMX10 • You Can’t Kill These Gorgeous ‘Preserved’ Plants. Here’s Why The Wall Street Journal https://on.wsj.com/36B9Tvz • Bill Murray Applied for a Job at P.F. Changs in Atlanta, Because Why Not? Rare https://bit.ly/36GR0HQ • Sherri Papini Case, 3 Years Later: a Look Back at a Calif. Mother's Bizarre Disappearance People Crime https://bit.ly/33mwbiL • One Million Cannibal Ants Trapped in Soviet Nuclear Bunker Have Escaped Newsweek https://bit.ly/2JU7XVs • Take This Vibe Check Assessment And We'll Tell You What Your Vibe Is BuzzFeed Quizzes https://bzfd.it/2Cj7OGQ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

10/16/19 Clipps & Drew share the draft picks they made in the first year of the Clipps & Drew NBA Fantasy League.  Clipps is disappointed with LeBron's miscalculated statements about China & the Daryl Morey tweet.  Drew gives his pre-season preview for all 30 NBA teams from worst to first. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app (https://anchor.fm/s/1743334/podcast/sponsor/acugkf/url/https%3A%2F%2Fanchor.fm%2Fapp) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Christina’s stand up manifests a real life one towel, cell phone belt wearing mini golf date that leaves her solo and minus one P.F. Changs free entree at the end of the night.Video version of podcast available at: https://tinyurl.com/y9m3z9ndEmail us with any questions or comments at Jillinoffpod@gmail.comPodcast Website: https://www.comedypopupla.com/jillinoff Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/jenmurphycomedyhttps://www.instagram.com/walkinsaucehttps://www.instagram.com/comedypopup

When Dave and Grace first found out they would be parents, they realized nothing mattered more than the arrival of their first child and changed everything in anticipation. A week before Grace gave birth to their son, the Changs discussed the many trials and tribulations of the pregnancy.

DJ Joe talks about his birthday dinner at PF Chang's, Nicky D has a his Fattest Food of the Week in Daytona and rants about something that's happened to him multiple times at Mexican restaurants. The guys give advice on where to eat if you're going to Orlando and don't want to eat at the Disney Theme Parks.

DJ Joe talks about his birthday dinner at PF Chang's, Nicky D has a his Fattest Food of the Week in Daytona and rants about something that's happened to him multiple times at Mexican restaurants. The guys give advice on where to eat if you're going to Orlando and don't want to eat at the Disney Theme Parks.

We continue our series, Jesus Changes Everything, this week by looking at how Jesus used the Word to transform hearts and send them out on mission.

DoMC rants about Gordon Ramsey, running an open mic, drinking at P.F. Changs, Uber, the "BBQ King" and only taking wins. He also answers the Instagram questions of the week. As always don't forget to follow DoMC on Instagram @SheTastesLikeTexas and on Twitter @DoMCast210 And don't forget to rate, review, and share with your friends! You Chachies The post 11/8/18 – Episode 29 appeared first on Sticker Fridge Studios.

American restaurant chain P.F. Changs turns 25 years old this year and are opening their first chain in Shanghai. Alexis discusses the Chinese market with Michael Osanloo, CEO. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

(CW: Mentions of a coach's emotional/physical abuse from 32:25-33:40) Welcome back to another episode of Top Shelf! Hannah and Michelle talk about the recent world championships and how China performed in their first major international tournament since revamping their program. We fall down another Bulgaria rabbit hole, Hannah embarrasses herself, and we discover another women's hockey league with some pretty incredible team names. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(CW: Mentions of a coach's emotional/physical abuse from 32:25-33:40) Welcome back to another episode of Top Shelf! Hannah and Michelle talk about the recent world championships and how China performed in their first major international tournament since revamping their program. We fall down another Bulgaria rabbit hole, Hannah embarrasses herself, and we discover another women's hockey league with some pretty incredible team names. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave and Chuck the Freak talk about a pastor caught with a naked tied up man in car he claims he was “counselling,” a local news station in Chicago that confused P.F. Changs with the Winter Olympics host city, instagram implementing new changes to deter creepers, couple who have bad sex are less likely to cheat, five thing that can cause your penis to shrink, a group of people that thought they were suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning but turned out to be effects from weed edibles, your best lesbian tales, cupid porn searches up 600% today, a guy who claims to be a time traveler from 2030 that passed a lie detector test, and more!

Ever wished you could work less so you could live more? After an incident with her son’s childcare provider, Jocelyn Sams realized she was giving too much control of her life to other people. She and her husband Shane decided to give up teaching and create an online business so they could have the flexibility and freedom they needed to spend more time with their kids - all while working only 10-15 hours/week. In this episode Jocelyn shares exactly how they did it. Today’s guest is Jocelyn Sams, part of the dynamic duo behind FlippedLifestyle.com. Jocelyn and her husband Shane are former school teachers. After years of bad bosses, job losses, and frustration at work, they started an online business. That business made it possible to quit their jobs, spend more time with family and earn millions in passive income online - all while working only 10-15 hours per week! Now, they are helping other families do the same by connecting with people through their Flipped Lifestyle podcast, website and inside their Flip Your Life community. Sign up for Jocelyn's free 168-hour Time Management Challenge. Nuggets of Wisdom from Joceyln: "We can't let other people run our lives anymore." "He said we were going to start an online business, we were going to build passive income streams and we were going to quit our jobs. I thought he was crazy at the time, but little did I know, we would do just that."   "When you do as you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten." Some of Joceyln's Favorite Things: Personal habit: "I calendar everything." Easy meal: Chicken Lettuce Wraps (P.F. Changs copycat) Favorite kitchen gadget: Cuisinart Electric Teakettle Joceyln's Favorite Books: Profit First by Mike Michalowicz Best advice received: "Take action and make things happen." Joceyln's Happiness Formula: "Take control of my time + prioritize the things that are really important in life + helping others find the same type of freedom we have found." A Challenge from Joceyln: "Put everything on a calendar, starting with your non-negotiables like work, sleep, eating dinner, eating lunch.... Once you get those things on there, move on to the things you want to do - things like working on a business, spending more time with your children - whatever it is you want to do, calendar those in after your non-negotiables. This will help you see where you're really spending time versus where you WANT to spend time." Resources 168-hour Time Management Challenge FlippedLifestyle.com Pat Flynn from Smart Passive Income Flipped Lifestyle podcast ElementaryLibrarian.com Cuisinart Electric Teakettle Chicken Lettuce Wraps (P.F. Changs copycat) Profit First by Mike Michalowicz 168 Hours: You Have More Time Than You Think Vibrant Happy Women Facebook Group Subscribe to Vibrant Happy Women:    

Around the Room The Daily 3 Breadcrumbing: The act of sporadically sending flirtatious yet noncommittal text messages NRL 9s - Konrad Hurrell in Studio Dom The Delivery Man: How did Dom go on his challenge? Changs movie food sneak he tries to sneak in a massive platter! Dom calls Event Cinemas to complain about Chang Kiwi singer/songwriter Mitch James in studioSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Topics covered Survey shows CISOs still struggle for respect (from business peers) http://www.cio.com/article/2460165/security/cisos-still-struggle-for-respect-from-peers.html Hold Security uncovers 1.2 billion password heist on Russian hacker sites (but something smells funny) - draw your own conclusions folks... I'd love to hear 'em http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/6/5973729/the-problem-with-the-new-york-times-biggest-hack-ever http://www.youarenotpayingattention.com/2014/08/08/the-lie-behind-1-2-billion-stolen-passwords/ https://identity.holdsecurity.com/Submit/ http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/08/qa-on-the-reported-theft-of-1-2b-email-accounts/ Yet another Android core software blunder, called "Fake ID", essentially gives "highly privileged malware" a free ride. http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/android-crypto-blunder-exposes-users-to-highly-privileged-malware/ HP study says 70% of "Internet-of-Things" (IoT) vulnerable. There's a shock, we're carrying around legacy baggage? Perish the thought. http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Fortify-Application-Security/HP-Study-Reveals-70-Percent-of-Internet-of-Things-Devices/ba-p/6556284 Civilian sector is better than the military at Cyber-War exercise. *rollseyes* http://www.navytimes.com/article/20140804/NEWS04/308040019/In-supersecret-cyberwar-game-civilian-sector-techies-pummel-active-duty-cyberwarriors?sf29369064=1 Target booking $148M due to data breach http://fortune.com/2014/08/05/target-data-breach-profit/ http://investors.target.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=65828&p=irol-sec PF Chang's does an astonishingly good job at being transparent about their breach(es) http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/pf-changs-breach-33-locations-hit-a-7153/op-1

The Nerd Lunch Podcasting crew are once again joined by Jasmin Fine of 1finecookie.com. Together, the foursome delves into crafting more movie-themed menus for national restaurant chains much like Denny's has done for The Hobbit. As before, movie assigments and restaurants were assigned at random so the kitchens start to get messy and pants start coming off. Nerd To-Dos include checking out Beyond the Rails, a book written by friend of Nerd Lunch, Jack Tyler.

The Nerd Lunch Podcasting crew are once again joined by Jasmin Fine of 1finecookie.com. Together, the foursome delves into crafting more movie-themed menus for national restaurant chains much like Denny's has done for The Hobbit. As before, movie assigments and restaurants were assigned at random so the kitchens start to get messy and pants start coming off. Nerd To-Dos include checking out Beyond the Rails, a book written by friend of Nerd Lunch, Jack Tyler.

08/29/12 - In this weeks show Disney is confused about paying sick leave for their cast members, Disney also tries to purchase Disneyland Paris, and tourists get scammed by buying park tickets at P.F. Changs.

Chesapeake Energy's CEO gives up his chairmanship.  Starbucks' CEO steps down from the board of Groupon.  PF Chang's goes private.  Our analysts discuss those stories and weigh in on the old investing saw, "Sell in May and go away".

Changs Meckis interview

Changs Meckis interview