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Welcome to the Luxury Outdoor Living Podcast with Mike and Trey Farley of Farley Pool Designs. With over 40 years of experience, the Farley team shares insights on transforming backyards into serene retreats. In this episode, step four of the design process is explored, covering the importance of creating visually appealing spaces. Topics include 3D modeling, sightlines, and prioritizing features such as fire elements, water features, and innovative lighting. The episode delves into practical tips for ensuring accurate models, discussions on how to manage sound and visual aesthetics with various water features, and ways to utilize lighting effectively to enhance outdoor spaces. Special guests contribute to the conversation, discussing advancements in materials and artistic elements to achieve an inviting backyard atmosphere. This comprehensive guide is perfect for those looking to turn their backyard visions into a reality. Discover more: https://www.farleypooldesigns.com/ https://www.instagram.com/farleydesigns/ https://www.instagram.com/luxuryoutdoorlivingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/poolzila/   00:00 Welcome to Luxury Outdoor Living 01:12 Introduction to the Design Process 02:03 Priorities in Outdoor Living Spaces 03:12 The Importance of 3D Modeling 11:44 Fire Features: Gathering and Aesthetics 30:41 Water Features: Sound and Visual Effects 38:13 Sound Considerations in Backyard Design 39:02 Water Features: Mistakes and Lessons 40:20 Modern Water Feature Trends 43:16 The Art of Boulder Waterfalls 50:10 Artificial Boulders and Their Applications 53:07 The Importance of Lighting in Outdoor Spaces 01:07:36 Incorporating Art and Sculptures 01:11:10 Choosing the Right Materials 01:16:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts      

A few weeks ago, a developer pre-sold most of its eight planned heritage-style weatherboard townhouses in two Auckland projects. They plan to bring more of their cookie-cutter housing designs to Auckland, and aims to revive the styles of homes prevalent in many older suburbs. But having a suburb full of similarly designed houses seems like it'd make neighbourhood dull, especially if they're bunched up together as councils plan to intesify - that in turn, would affect prices, and would make any changes you make to the property stick-out like a sore-thumb. So what are the pros and cons of cookie-cutter builds? what DIY projects could we do to boost our home's appearance? And what would we bring in an architect for? Daniel Marshall is the Owner/Director of Daniel Marshall Architects and joins Tim Beveridge for the OneRoof Radio Show... LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode is a treasure trove of ideas for creating memorable outdoor spaces that can keep families engaged and happy across generations. Mike and Trey Farley, experts in pool design with over 40 years of experience, share their extensive knowledge on transforming backyards into luxurious personal retreats that cater to both grandparents and grandchildren. Dive into discussions about integrating pools, outdoor games, lush gardens, and even hot tubs. Learn about the essentials of outdoor living, from safety measures to maintenance tips. Whether it's a lazy river, swing, or simple turf, this episode helps you design a backyard that fits your family's needs and generations to come.   Discover more: https://www.farleypooldesigns.com/ https://www.instagram.com/farleydesigns/ https://www.instagram.com/luxuryoutdoorlivingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/poolzila/   00:00 Welcome to Luxury Outdoor Living 01:36 Grandparenting Fun and Challenges 02:32 Creating a Grandchild-Friendly Backyard 05:08 Designing for Different Types of Grandparents 06:14 Simple and Fun Backyard Ideas 09:51 Building Traditions and Memories 14:28 Outdoor Activities and Safety Tips 28:56 The Magic of Lighting and Temporary Fun 31:09 Outdoor BBQ Segment: Warming Drawers 32:50 The Versatility of Grass and Turf 33:19 Maintaining a Year-Round Backyard 33:44 Ensuring Safety in Your Backyard 34:49 Creating Sensory Experiences 36:37 Designing a Multi-Generational Resort 40:31 Incorporating Pools and Safety Measures 47:55 Health Benefits of Pools for Grandparents 57:23 Enhancing Water Quality and Maintenance 01:00:47 Community and Memories in Backyard Spaces 01:03:28 Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts  

Mike and Trey Farley welcome Scott Armstrong from Synthetic Turf Experts to discuss the evolution of backyard sports courts. With over 40 years of experience at Farley Pool Designs, the hosts delve into the design and installation of various courts, including pickleball, tennis, and basketball, as well as multi-sport setups and emerging trends like sunken trampolines and in-ground trampolines. Scott shares insights on materials, maintenance, and the importance of proper drainage and slopes, while also touching on common homeowner questions and potential pitfalls to avoid in backyard transformations. Special segments include 'True Crime' stories from the field and 'Barbecue Bits' for enhancing outdoor living spaces.   Discover more: https://www.linkedin.com/in/synturfexperts/ https://www.farleypooldesigns.com/ https://www.instagram.com/farleydesigns/ https://www.instagram.com/luxuryoutdoorlivingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/poolzila/   00:00 Introduction to Luxury Outdoor Living Podcast 01:17 Meet the Hosts: Mike and Trey Farley 01:40 Special Guest: Scott Armstrong from Synthetic Turf Experts 03:09 The Rise of Pickleball and Sports Courts 05:03 Building and Maintaining Sports Courts 12:19 Lighting and Fencing for Sports Courts 19:30 Basketball Goals and Custom Logos 22:05 Versa Court Tiles and Surface Options 26:14 BBQ Bits: Fire Place Media 30:19 Using Existing Decking for Sports Courts 31:57 Innovative Sunken Trampolines 34:03 Trampoline Safety and Family Stories 35:44 Cost Considerations for Pickleball Courts 36:38 Sports Court Drainage Solutions 38:31 Turf and Court Maintenance Tips 43:24 True Crime: Construction Mishaps 47:54 Unique Backyard Sports Setups 54:02 Guest's Personal Favorites and Closing Remarks  

It was our pleasure to welcome Pigeon and Devon Dare into the lounge space for the first time.We got to deep dive into how they discovered DJing and how it led to their upcoming Beginners DJ Workshop, which takes place this Sunday at Living Space, 1308 Portage. To sign up for the workshop and catch up with their mixes and gigs, follow them on socials.

Today, I'm sitting down with Gerardo Gutiérrez, founder of Mitolux and a leading voice in the world of light therapy and biohacking. Gerardo shares his fascinating transformation from a sun-avoidant photographer—armed with sunglasses and sunscreen—to a pioneer on a mission to help people reconnect with the healing power of natural light. He opens up about the pivotal mindset shift that came from his own health challenges and how embracing sunlight changed everything from his mood to his energy (and even his dog's health!). Get 10% off your MitoLux Lite Sunlamp at https://mitolux.com/NAT10. NAT10 will be automatically applied at checkout. FREE GIFT: I made a free gift to thank you for listening: a quick list of my Top 5 Peptides. Grab yours here natniddam.com/top5. Episode Timestamps: Importance of minerals and foundational health ... 00:03:33 Gerardo Gutiérrez's shift toward embracing sunlight ... 00:04:09 Early benefits: mood, serotonin, vitamin D ... 00:06:17 Infrared light stories: pets and instinctive health ... 00:08:15 Modern light deficiency and blue-light pitfalls ... 00:11:55 Enhanced sun therapy vs. vitamin D pills ... 00:30:00 How to periodize and adapt light year-round ... 00:34:20 Fireplace Mode: using Mitolux for blue light balance ... 00:41:26 Sunlight's top public health impacts ... 00:47:15 Managing skin cancer risk vs. sun exposure benefits ... 00:49:58 Best ways to track light therapy effectiveness ... 01:03:00 Mitolux panel updates and user tips ... 01:09:43   Our Amazing Sponsors: OraltidePro- A unique mouthwash that: Promotes growth of shrinking gums, Speeds healing of mouth & tongue, Prevents oral infections (such as gingivitis), Helps with enamel remineralization, Reduces bacteria growth and etching and Fills slots in damaged enamel. check out OraltidePro at profound-health.com and use code NAT15 for 15% off your first order.   BEAM Minerals - Mineral deficiency support. One shot in the morning, tastes like water, and you've just restored every essential mineral your cells are craving. Go to beamminerals.com, use code NAT20, and get 20% off your first order.   Berberine Breakthrough - Take 15 min. before a meal and your body will push carbs and glucose into your muscles to be used as fuel instead of turning them into fat. Enjoy more stable energy without the post-meal crash. Visit bioptimizers.com/bionat and enter the code BIONAT to get 10% off your order.   Nat's Links:  YouTube Channel Join My Membership Community Sign up for My Newsletter  Instagram  Facebook Group

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What if your home could predict when your HVAC system was about to fail, automatically adjust temperatures room by room based on occupancy, or even guide you through complex DIY repairs with step-by-step visual instructions? This isn't science fiction—it's the very near future of homeownership!Donnie and Eric dive deep into how artificial intelligence will transform our homes over the next five years, exploring technologies that are either already available or just on the horizon. From energy optimization systems that could significantly reduce utility bills to predictive maintenance alerts that prevent costly breakdowns, AI promises to make home management both easier and more affordable.The conversation explores how facial recognition security can distinguish between family members and strangers, providing customized responses for each. Donnie shares a recent experience using AI visualization to help clients preview a roofing project, demonstrating how these tools are already changing the renovation process. The hosts debate whether augmented reality repair guidance could reduce dependence on service professionals, with Donnie noting, "I don't think it'll put a lot of plumbers or heating and air guys out of a job."Perhaps most fascinating is the discussion of emerging health applications—from bathroom fixtures that can detect illness before symptoms appear to air quality monitors that automatically improve ventilation when contaminants are detected. The episode concludes with equal parts enthusiasm for these innovations and Donnie's humorous concern that eventually, "that bathroom will kill you intentionally as they go to take over and Skynet rules the world."Visit thecarolinacontractor.com to hear past episodes or submit questions about your own home improvement projects!

One house. $60K a month. Assisted living is the most slept-on cash flow play in real estate.In this episode, Rich sits down with Serg Lupescu to break down how a single-family home can be converted into a high-performing assisted living facility—and why this niche is creating millionaire investors faster than almost any other strategy. From licensing and staffing to cash flow and scalability, Serg gives the full playbook.They cover:How to turn one house into $40K–$60K/month in revenueThe startup costs and systems you must have in placeWhy assisted living outperforms almost every other asset classThe biggest mistakes new operators make (and how to avoid them)How to scale from one property to a full portfolioIf you're serious about building wealth and want a business that makes real impact, assisted living is the move.Let's go.Join our investor waitlist and stay in the know about our next investor opportunity with Somers Capital: www.somerscapital.com/invest. Want to join our Boutique Hotel Mastermind Community? Book a free strategy call with our team: www.hotelinvesting.com. If you're committed to scaling your personal brand and achieving 7-figure success, it's time to level up with the 7 Figure Creator Mastermind Community. Book your exclusive intro call today at www.the7figurecreator.com and gain access to the strategies that will accelerate your growth.

Your outdoor space has incredible potential—and the right landscaping partner can unlock it all. Hoogland's Landscape (318-746-8655) brings over 60 years of family expertise to Shreveport properties, turning ordinary yards into stunning landscapes that last for decades. Learn more: https://hooglands.com/services/landscape-services Hoogland's Landscape City: Bossier City Address: 2713 Viking Drive Website: https://hooglands.com/ Phone: +1 318 746 8655

Dr Terry Goldsworthy is a criminologist, former detective inspector, academic, and one of Australia's most respected voices on criminal behaviour. With over two decades in law enforcement and a deep academic grounding in forensic criminology, Dr Goldsworthy brings a rare dual lens to the world of crime — blending frontline experience with sharp, evidence-based insight. In this episode of Crime Insiders | Detectives, Brent Sanders takes a deep dive on a gruesome steelyard and we learn if evil is always a factor playing in the mind of criminals.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Your clean living journey doesn't have to be perfect to be valid, and this conversation proves it.In today's episode, I'm teaming up with my "woo woo bestie," Suzy to tackle the elephant in the room: the elitism and perfectionism that's plaguing the toxin-free community. Suzy represents the majority of well-intentioned consumers in the US. She's slowly making clean swaps, one by one, but she's still working on a budget and holding on to a few things others might deem "toxic."Meanwhile, I literally packed my own clean sheets on a trip to Bali (where my bag was weighed, might I add). Listen, we all weigh our priorities and make decisions accordingly. You don't have to go from 0 to 100 in your toxin free journey, and anyone that makes you feel like a failure for having one or two toxins in your cabinet is probably a hypocrite.Through honest stories about our "incident" on a bus in Bali, Suzy's eye-opening experience cleaning with conventional products in an Airbnb, and the reality of budget constraints, we're exposing how shame-based messaging is actually pushing people away from making healthier choices. The conversation gets real about accessibility, with discussions about food deserts, Title I schools, and the controversy around better-but-not-perfect products.Most importantly, we celebrate the small wins that actually matter: choosing phenoxyethanol over BHT, switching from Bath & Body Works to Attitude products, or simply reading ingredient labels for the first time. Bottom line: If 96% of Americans chose the "better" option at Target instead of the worst option, companies would be forced to reformulate. In today's episode, we're chatting about: • Why the "all or nothing" mentality is harming the clean living movement • How budget constraints and accessibility issues affect product choices • The difference between reproductive toxins and "imperfect" ingredients • Why celebrating small improvements creates lasting change • How to support your body naturally without expensive devicesRead the Shownotes

Send us a textWelcome to Country Proud Living! I'm your host LoriLynn Gather Round: Creating the Perfect Outdoor Living Space for Summer MemoriesIn episode 62 of Country Proud Living, host LoriLynn shares tips on creating the perfect outdoor living space to celebrate Memorial Day and the start of summer. LoriLynn discusses the importance of outdoor spaces in extending the heart of your home, offering five simple ideas for defining and decorating these areas. This episode is filled with practical advice, from using area rugs and furniture to define zones to incorporating natural decor and creating meaningful gathering moments, this episode is filled with practical advice. LoriLynn also emphasizes the significance of Memorial Day and provides bonus tips for creating a comfortable and welcoming outdoor environment. Tune in for inspiration on making the most out of your outdoor spaces this summer.00:11 Welcome to Country Proud Living01:00 Creating the Perfect Outdoor Living Space01:56 Defining Your Outdoor Space03:23 Incorporating Natural Decor04:04 Gathering Moments and Memorial Day06:50 Bonus Ideas for Outdoor Enjoyment08:11 Final Thoughts and InspirationWelcome to the Country Proud Living Podcast, I'm your host LoriLynn. Thanks for stopping by today! Please subscribe to the podcast by clicking plus follow at the upper right. Click those three little dots at the top right & copy the link to share the show with your friends and family. Please leave me a review. This is truly one of the only ways to help my podcast grow. I just want you to know what it means to me that you're here today. I know everyone's time is valuable and it means a lot. Thank you. Love and light, Lori Lynn.Please share this podcast with your like minded friends and family and subscribe to never miss an episode! If you have questions, ideas of topics you would like to learn more about, you want to work with me, or you have feedback both good and bad is welcome it can be sent to lorilynn@countryproudliving.comSHARING ADDITIONAL LINKS TO CONNECT WITH ME: : )IG: www.instagram.com/lorilynn_countryproudlivingPODCAST:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/country-proud-living-nurturing-home-empowered-self/id1715855014?i=1000645120377OR for Spotify, iHeart, the pod can be found most anywhere you choose to listen:https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2247458.rssLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olafsonloriMY ART GALLERY: https://lorilynn-o-uter.pixels.com/PINTEREST: https://pin.it/3mX6xMNcR

Your outdoor spaces should feel just as luxurious as your interiors. Julie Laughton shares the secrets to designing breathtaking outdoor living areas — from gourmet kitchens to resort-style pools — and how to transform any backyard into a five-star retreat.

In this episode, we welcome Tasha Lorentz, GOHQ Summit Coordinator & Podcast Host of the Get Organized HQ Podcast, who is passionate about helping women create less stress and more peace in their homes. Tasha and her cousin Laura are the heart behind Get Organized HQ, focusing on decluttering, organizing, and transforming your home into a haven. Tasha shares her practical tips and insights on creating a functional and enjoyable living space.In this episode, we tackle the common challenges faced by women, including:

Most of us have heard of downsizing, and today's guest, Jeannine Bryant, owner of Changing Spaces SRS, explains why “right sizing” is really what we should be considering as we transition ourselves or our parents into older adulthood and beyond.

SHOW NOTES: Today's show has tips for crafting your perfect outdoor living space, asking key questions before hiring a contractor, and choosing the best tile for your next project. Whether your DIY project is indoors or outdoors, we've got the answers you need for all your home improvement questions! - Outdoor Living: Follow these 5 tips for creating the perfect outdoor living space. - Hiring Contractors: Choose wisely by asking these 5 key questions before hiring a home improvement professional. - Centurion Garden & Outdoor Living Product Feature – 3-in-1 Wild Bird Feeder   Q & A: - HVAC Water: Gail's boiler provides both the heat and the hot water. She needs to find out how to set the mixing valve so the shower water won't be too hot. - Bathroom Vent: Mike wonders about connecting his bathroom fan vent to the plumbing vent. He can't do that, but we've got tips on how to run the exhaust vent to the outside. - Plumbing: A cracked waste pipe flooded the basement. Helen should file an insurance claim and hire a remediation company to clean up the sewage damage. - Foundation Cracks: Pat has multiple big cracks in his foundation walls. He'll need a structural engineer to address the problem and design the proper repairs. - Odors: Mason can't find the source of odors in his home. We have a few ideas and give him tips on steam-cleaning the carpets and priming and painting the walls to seal them. - Textured Wall Prep: Dave wants to tile over a textured bathroom wall. Sanding the surface will give him better adhesion to glue the tile right over it. - Kitchen Cabinet Lazy Susan: The top shelf of an old kitchen cabinet carousel has dropped. Marge gets advice on how to find parts and try to repair it.   ASK A QUESTION: Need help with your own home improvement or décor question? We'd love to help! Call the show 24/7 at 888-MONEY-PIT (888-666-3974) or post your question here: https://www.moneypit.com/ask. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 164 Chapter 25, Electronic Music in Japan and The Asia-Pacific. Works Recommended from my book, Electronic and Experimental Music  Welcome to the Archive of Electronic Music. This is Thom Holmes. This podcast is produced as a companion to my book, Electronic and Experimental Music, published by Routledge. Each of these episodes corresponds to a chapter in the text and an associated list of recommended works, also called Listen in the text. They provide listening examples of vintage electronic works featured in the text. The works themselves can be enjoyed without the book and I hope that they stand as a chronological survey of important works in the history of electronic music. Be sure to tune-in to other episodes of the podcast where we explore a wide range of electronic music in many styles and genres, all drawn from my archive of vintage recordings. There is a complete playlist for this episode on the website for the podcast. Let's get started with the listening guide to Chapter 25, Electronic Music in Japan and The Asia-Pacific from my book Electronic and Experimental music.   Playlist: ELECTRONIC MUSIC IN JAPAN AND THE ASIA-PACIFIC   Time Track Time Start Introduction –Thom Holmes 01:32 00:00 1.     Toshiro Mayuzumi, “Les Œuvres Pour La Musique Concrète X, Y, Z” (1953). Early work of tape music. 13:50 01:36 2.     Toru Takemitsu, “Vocalism Ai (Love)” (1956). For magnetic tape (condensed from a 72-hour tape montage. 04:11 15:22 3.     Makoto Moroi and Toshiro Mayuzumi, “Shichi No Variation (7 Variations)” (1956). Tape music for sine wave generators. 14:51 19:32 4.     Toru Takemitsu, “Sky, Horse And Death (Concrete-Music)” (1958). For magnetic tape. 03:28 34:24 5.     Group Ongaku, “Object” (1960). Recorded on May 8, 1960, at Mizuno's house. Performers were Chieko Shiomi, Mikio Tojima, Shukou Mizuno, Takehisa Kosugi, Yasunao Tone, and Yumiko Tanno. 07:34 37:50 6.     Toru Takemitsu, “Water Music” (1960). For magnetic tape. 09:41 45:26 7.     Michiko Toyama, “Aoi No Ue (Princess Hollyhock) (Music Drama for Tape and Narration).” For magnetic tape and reader. 07:05 55:06 8.     Group Ongaku, “Metaplasm Part 2” (1961). Live performance, 1961, at Sogetsu Kaikan Hall, Tokyo. Tadashi Mori (conductor), 09:08 01:02:10 9.     Akira Miyoshi (composer), opening excerpt to Ondine (1961). For orchestra, mixed chorus and electronic sounds. 04:32 01:11:18 10.   Joji Yuasa ‎– “Aoi No Ue” (1961). For voice and tape and based on The Tale of Genji written by Murasaki Shikibu in 11th century. Tape parts realized at NHK Electronic music studio. 29:50 01:15:50 11.   Kuniharu Akiyama, “Noh-Miso” (track 1) (1962). Tape music. Hitomi-Za is an experimental puppet theatre group. They had performed in February 13-17 in 1962 at Sogetsu Kaikan Hall. This program was consisted of three parts, and Joji Yuasa, Kuniharu Akiyama and Naozumi Yamamoto composed background sound for each part. 01:44 01:45:40 12.   Toshi Ichiyanagi, “Parallel Music” (1962). Tape music recorded at NHK Electric Music Studio, Tokyo Japan. 09:12 01:47:22 13.   Kuniharu Akiyam, “Demonstration of Nissei Theater” (excerpt) (1963). “Demonstration of Nissei Theater” composed in 1963 for a public demonstration of the stage machinery of the newly opened Nissei Theatre in Tokyo. 05:15 01:56:36 14.   Toshi Ichiyanagi, “Sound Materials for Tinguely” (1963). “Music For Tinguely” was composed at the studio of Sogetsu Art Center. This rare track comprises sound materials used for that composition. 03:31 02:01:54 15.   Joji Yusa, Tracks 1-4 (1963). Incidental music for NHK Radio, based on Andre Breton's "Nadja". "The actual chart of constellations was played by three players (violin, piano, vibraphone) which was supposed as the music score. And birds' voices, electronic sound, sound generated from inside piano, through music concrete technique and constructed at the NHK Electronic Music Studio." 04:24 02:05:26 16.   Maki Ishii, “Hamon-Ripples (For Chamber Ensemble, Violin And Taped Music)” (1965). Tape piece for violin and chamber orchestra. 10:01 02:09:46 17.   Joji Yuasa, “Icon on the Source Of White Noise” (1967). Tape work using white noise as material and designed for a multi-channel system. In the original version, several sound images of various widths (e.g. three loudspeakers playing simultaneously) moved at different speeds around the audience, who were positioned inside the pentagonal loudspeaker arrangement. 12:13 02:19:44 18.   Makoto Moroi, “Shosanke” (1968). Tape work fusing electronic sounds with those of traditional Japanese instruments. 13:20 02:31:54 19.   Minao Shibata, “Improvisation for Electronic Sounds” (1968). Tape piece for electronic sounds. 09:27 02:45:12 20.   Toshi Ichiyanagi, “Love Blinded Ballad (Enka 1969)” from the Opera "From The Works Of Tadanori Yokoo" (1969). Tape collage. 06:57 02:54:40 21.   Toshi Ichiyanagi, Music for Living Space (1969, Bijutsu Shuppan-Sha), composed for the Electric Faculty of Engineering of Kyoto University. Early Computer Music combined with Gregorian chant for Osaka Expo '70. 08:49 03:01:34 22.   Toshiro Mayuzumi, “Mandara” (1969). Tape piece for electronic sound and voices. 10:22 03:10:24 23.   Takehisa Kosugi,  “Catch-Wave” (Mano Dharma '74)” (1974). “Mano-Dharma '74” is an excerpt from a meta-media solo improvisation performed by Takehisa Kosugi. From his notes: “Sounds speeding on lights, light speeding on sounds music between riddles & solutions. ‘the deaf listen to sounds touching, watching.” 26:32 03:20:42 24.   Yoshi Wada ‎– Earth Horns with Electronic Drone, excerpt, (1974). Electronics by Liz Phillips. Pipehorn players Barbara Stewart, Garrett List, Jim Burton, Yoshi Wada. Composed by, recorded by Yoshi Wada. Recorded at Everson Museum of Art, Syracuse, New York, Sunday 2-5pm, February 24, 1974. 10:51 03:47:10 25.   Matsuo Ohno, Takehisa Kosugi, “B.G.M. Parts A-F” (1963). Music and effects later used for Astroboy. 06:59 03:57:48 26.   Joji Yuasa, “My Blue Sky (No. 1)” (1975). Tape parts realized at NHK Electronic music studio. 15:43 04:05:00   Additional opening, closing, and other incidental music by Thom Holmes. My Books/eBooks: Electronic and Experimental Music, sixth edition, Routledge 2020. Also, Sound Art: Concepts and Practices, first edition, Routledge 2022. See my companion blog that I write for the Bob Moog Foundation. For a transcript, please see my blog, Noise and Notations. Original music by Thom Holmes can be found on iTunes and Bandcamp.

If you're in SF: Join us for the Claude Plays Pokemon hackathon this Sunday!If you're not: Fill out the 2025 State of AI Eng survey for $250 in Amazon cards!Unsupervised Learning is a podcast that interviews the sharpest minds in AI about what's real today, what will be real in the future and what it means for businesses and the world - helping builders, researchers and founders deconstruct and understand the biggest breakthroughs. Top guests: Noam Shazeer, Bob McGrew, Noam Brown, Dylan Patel, Percy Liang, David LuanFull Episode on Their YouTubeTimestamps* 00:00 Introduction and Excitement for Collaboration* 00:27 Reflecting on Surprises in AI Over the Past Year* 01:44 Open Source Models and Their Adoption* 06:01 The Rise of GPT Wrappers* 06:55 AI Builders and Low-Code Platforms* 09:35 Overhyped and Underhyped AI Trends* 22:17 Product Market Fit in AI* 28:23 Google's Current Momentum* 28:33 Customer Support and AI* 29:54 AI's Impact on Cost and Growth* 31:05 Voice AI and Scheduling* 32:59 Emerging AI Applications* 34:12 Education and AI* 36:34 Defensibility in AI Applications* 40:10 Infrastructure and AI* 47:08 Challenges and Future of AI* 52:15 Quick Fire Round and Closing RemarksTranscript[00:00:00] Introduction and Podcast Overview[00:00:00] Jacob: well, thanks so much for doing this, guys. I feel like we've we've been excited to do a collab for a while. I[00:00:13] swyx: love crossovers. Yeah. Yeah. This, this is great. Like the ultimate meta about just podcasters talking to other podcasters. Yeah. It's a lot. Podcasts all the way up.[00:00:21] Jacob: I figured we'd have a pretty free ranging conversation today but brought a few conversation starters to, to, to kick us off.[00:00:27] Reflecting on AI Surprises and Trends[00:00:27] Jacob: And so I figured one interesting place to start is you know, obviously it feels that this world is changing like every few months. Wondering as you guys reflect path on the past year, like what surprised you the most?[00:00:36] Alessio: I think definitely recently models we kinda on the, on the right here. Like, oh, that, well, I, I I think there's, there's like the, what surprised us in a good way.[00:00:44] May maybe in a, in a bad way. I would say in a good way. Recently models and I think the release of them right after the new reps scaling instead talked by Ilia. I think there was maybe like a, a little. It's so over and then we're so back. I'm like such a short, short period. It was really [00:01:00] fortuitous[00:01:00] Jacob: timing though, like right.[00:01:01] As pre-training died, I mean, obviously I'm sure within the labs they knew pre-training was dying and had to find something. But you know, from the outside it was it, it felt like one right into the other.[00:01:09] Alessio: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So that, that was a good surprise,[00:01:12] swyx: I would say, if you wanna make that comment about timing, I think it's suspiciously neat that like, because we know that Strawberry was being worked on for like two years-ish.[00:01:20] Like, and we know exactly when Nome joined OpenAI, and that was obviously a big strategic bet by OpenAI. So like, for it to transition, so transition so nicely when like, pre-training is kind of tapped out to, into like, oh, now inference time is, is the new scaling law is like conv very convenient. I, I, I like if there were an Illuminati, this would be what they planned.[00:01:41] Or if we're living in a simulation or something. Yeah.[00:01:44] Open Source Models and Their Impact[00:01:44] swyx: Then you said open source[00:01:45] Alessio: as well? Yeah. Well, no, I, I think like open source. Yeah. We're discussing this on the negative. I would say the relevance of open source. I would specifically open models. Yeah, I was surprised the lack, like the llamas of the world by the lack of adoption.[00:01:56] And I mean, people use it obviously, but I would say nobody's [00:02:00] really like a huge fanboy, you know, I think the local llama community and some of the more obvious use cases really like it. But when we talk to like enterprise folks, it's like, it's cool, you know? And I think people love to argue about licenses and all of that, but the reality is that it doesn't really change the adoption path of, of ai.[00:02:18] So[00:02:19] swyx: yeah, the specific stat that I got from on anchor from Braintrust mm-hmm. In one of the episodes that we did was I think he estimated that open source model usage in work in enterprises is that like 5% and going down.[00:02:31] Jacob: And it feels like you're basically all these enterprises are in like use case discovery mode, where it's like, let's just take what we think is the most powerful model and figure out if we can find anything that works.[00:02:39] And, you know, so much of, of, of it feels like discovery of that. And then, right, as you've discovered something, a new generation of models are out and so you have to go do discovery with those. And you know, I think obviously we're probably optimistic that the that the open source models increase in uptake.[00:02:50] It's funny, I was gonna say my biggest surprise in the last year was open source related, but it was just how Fast Open Source caught up on the reasoning models. It was kind of unclear to me, like over time whether there would be, you know, [00:03:00] a compounding advantage for some of the closed source models where in the, okay, in the early days of, of scaling you know, there was a, a tight time loop, but over time, you know, would would the gap increase?[00:03:08] And if anything it feels like a trunk. You know, and I think deep seek specifically was just really surprising in how, you know, in many ways if the value of these model companies is like you have a model for a period of time and you're the only one that can build products on top of that model while you have it.[00:03:21] Like, God, that time period is a lot shorter than a, than I thought it was gonna be a year ago.[00:03:25] swyx: Yeah. I mean, again, I I, I don't like this label of how Fast Open Source caught up because it's really how Fast Deepsea caught up. Right. And now we have, like, I think some of it is that Deepsea is basically gonna stop open sourcing models.[00:03:36] Yeah. So like there, there's no team open source, there's just different companies and they choose to open source or not. And we got lucky with deep seek releasing something and then everyone else is basically distilling from deep seek and those are distillations. Catching up is such an easier lower bar than like actually catching up, which is like you, you are like from scratch.[00:03:56] You're training something that like is competitive on that front. I don't know if [00:04:00] that's happening. Like basically the only player right now is we're waiting for LA four.[00:04:03] Jordan: I mean, it's always an order of magnitude cheaper to replicate what's already been done than to create something fundamentally new.[00:04:09] And so that's why I think deep seek overall was overhyped. Right? I mean obviously it's a good open source, new entrant, but at the same time there's nothing new fundamentally there other than sort of doing it executing what's already been done really well.[00:04:21] Alessio: Yeah,[00:04:21] Jordan: right.[00:04:21] Alessio: So Well, but I think the traces is like maybe the biggest thing, I think most previous open models is like the same model, just a little worse and cheaper.[00:04:30] Yeah. Like R one is like the first model that had the full traces. So I think that's like a net unique thing in fair, open source. But yeah, I, I think like we talked about deep seek in the our n of year 2023 recap, and we're mostly focused on cheaper inference. Like we didn't really have deep, see, deep CV three[00:04:47] swyx: was out then, and we were like, that was already like talking about fine green mixture of experts and all that.[00:04:51] Like that's a great receipt to[00:04:52] Jacob: have[00:04:52] swyx: to be like, yeah.[00:04:52] Jacob: End[00:04:53] swyx: of year 20. Yeah. That's a,[00:04:54] Jacob: that's a, that's, that's an[00:04:55] swyx: impressive one. You follow the right whale believers in Twitter. It's, it's like [00:05:00] pretty obvious. I actually had like so, you know, I used to be in finance and, and a lot, a lot of my hedge fund and PE friends called me up.[00:05:06] They were like, why didn't you tip us off on deep seek? And I'm like, well, I mean, it's been there. It's, it's actually like kind of surprising that like, Nvidia like fell like what, 15% in one day? Yeah. Because deep seek and I, I think it's just like whatever the market, public market narrative decides is a story, becomes the story, but really like the technical movements are usually.[00:05:26] One to two years in the making. Before that,[00:05:27] Jacob: basically these people were telling on themselves that they didn't listen to your podcast. They've been on the end of year 22, 3. No, no,[00:05:32] swyx: no. Like yeah, we weren't, we weren't like banging the drum. So like it's also on us to be like, no, like this. This is an actual tipping point.[00:05:38] And I think I like as people who are like, our function as podcasters and industry analysts is to raise the bar or focus attention on things that you think matter. And sometimes we're too passive about it. And I think I was too passive there. I'd be, I'd be happy to own up on that.[00:05:52] Jacob: No, I feel like over time you guys have moved into this margin general role of like taking stances of things that are or aren't important and, you know I feel like you've done that with MCP of [00:06:00] late and a bunch of[00:06:00] swyx: things.[00:06:00] Yeah.[00:06:01] Challenges and Opportunities in AI Engineering[00:06:01] swyx: So like the, the general pushes is AI engineering, you know, like it's gotta, gotta wrap the shirt. And MCP is part of that, but like the, the general movement is what can engineers do above the model layer to augment model capabilities. And it turns out it's a lot. And turns out we went from like, making fun of GPT rappers to now I think the overwhelming consensus GPT wrappers is the only thing that's interesting.[00:06:20] Yeah.[00:06:21] Jacob: I remember like, Arvin from Perplexity came on our podcast and he was like, I'm proudly a rapper. Like, you know, it's like anyone that's like talking about like, you know, differentiation, like pre-product market fit is like a ridiculous thing to, to say, like, build something people want and then yeah.[00:06:33] Over time you can kind of worry about that.[00:06:35] swyx: Yeah. I, I interviewed him in 2023 and I think he may have been the first person on our podcast to like, probably be a GBT rapper. Yeah. And yeah, and obviously he's built a huge business on that. Totally. Now, now we now we all can't get enough of it. I have another one for, Oh, nice.[00:06:47] That was Alessia's one and we, we perhaps individual answers just to be interesting in the same Uber on the way up. Yeah. You just like in the, in different Oh, I was driving too. Oh, you were driving. So I actually, I mean, it was a Tesla mostly drove mine was [00:07:00] actually, it is interesting that low-code builders did not capture the AI builder market.[00:07:04] Right. AI builders being bought lovable, low-code builders being Zapier, Airtable, retool notion. Any of those, like you're not technical. You can build software.[00:07:14] misc: Yeah.[00:07:14] swyx: Somehow not all them missed it. Why? It's bizarre. Like they should have the DNA, I don't know. They should have. They already have the reach, they already have the, the distribution.[00:07:25] Like why? I I have no idea. The ability to[00:07:27] Jacob: fast follow too. Like I'm surprised there's Yeah. There's just[00:07:29] swyx: nothing. Yeah. What do you make of that? I, it seems and you know, not to come back to the AI engineering future, like it takes a, a certain kind of. Founder mindset or AI engineer mindset to be like, we will build this from whole cloth and not be tied to existing paradigms.[00:07:45] I think, 'cause I like, if I was, if I'm to, you know, you know, Wade or who's, who's, who's the Zapier person than, you know, Mike. Mike who has left the Zapier. Yeah. What's the, yeah. Like you know, Zapier, when they decided to do Zapier ai, they [00:08:00] were like, oh, you can use natural language to make Zap actions, right?[00:08:03] When Notion decided to do Notion ai, they were like, oh, you can like, you know write documents or, you know, fill in tables with, with ai. Like, they didn't do the, the, the, the next step because they already had their base and they were like, let's improve our baseline. And the other people who actually tried for to, to create a phone cloth were like, we, we got no prior preconceptions.[00:08:24] Like, let's see what we can, what kinda software people can build with like from scratch, basically. I don't know that, that's my explanation. I dunno if you guys have any retros on the AI builders?[00:08:33] Jacob: Yeah. Or, or, or did they kind of get lucky getting, you know starting that product journey? Like right as the models were reaching the inflection point?[00:08:39] There's the timing[00:08:40] swyx: issue. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Like I, I, to some extent, I think the only reason you and I are talking about it is that they, both of them have reported like ridiculous numbers. Like zero to 20 million in three months, basically, both of them. Jordan, did you have a, a big surprise?[00:08:55] Jordan: Yeah, I mean, some of what's already been discussed. I guess the only other thing would be on the Apple side in particular, I [00:09:00] think, I think you know, for the last text message summary, like, but they're[00:09:04] Jacob: funny. They're funny at how bad they had, how off they're, they're viral. Yeah.[00:09:08] Jordan: I mean, so like for the last couple years we've seen so many companies that are trying to do personal assistance, like all these various consumer things, and one of the things we've always asked is, well, apple is in prime position to do all this.[00:09:18] And then with Apple Intelligence, they just. Totally messed up in so many different ways. And then the whole BBC thing saying that the guy shot himself when he didn't. And just like, there's just so many things at this point that I would've thought that they would've ironed up their, their AI products better, but just didn't really catch on,[00:09:35] Jacob: you know, second on this list of, of generally overly broad opening questions would be anything that you guys think is kind of like overhyped or under hyped in the AI world right now?[00:09:43] Alessio: Overhyped agents framework. Sorry. Not naming any particular ones. I'm sorry. Not, not not, yeah, exactly. It's not, I, I would say they're just overall a chase to try and be the framework when the workloads are like in such flux. Yeah. That I just think is like so [00:10:00] hard to reconcile the two. I think what Harrison and Link Chain has done so amazingly, it's like product velocity.[00:10:05] Like, you know, the initial obstructions were maybe not the ending obstruction, but like they were just releasing stuff every day trying to be on top of it. But I think now we're like past that, like what people are looking for now. It's like something that they can actually build on mm-hmm. And stay on for the next couple of years.[00:10:23] And we talked about this with Brett Taylor on our episode, and it feels like, it's like the jQuery era Yeah. Of like agents and lms. It's like, it's kinda like, you know, single file, big frameworks, kinda like a lot of players, but maybe we need React. And I think people are just trying to build still Jake Barry.[00:10:39] Like, I don't really see a lot of people doing react like,[00:10:43] swyx: yeah. Maybe the, the only modification I made about that is maybe it's too early even for frameworks at all. And the thing that, and do you think[00:10:50] Jacob: there's enough stability in the underlying model layer and, and patterns to, to have this,[00:10:54] swyx: the thing is the protocol and not the framework?[00:10:56] Jacob: Yeah.[00:10:56] swyx: Because frameworks inherently embed protocols, but if you just focus on a protocol, maybe that [00:11:00] works. And obviously MCP is. The current leading mm-hmm. Area. And you know, I think the comparison there would be, instead of just jQuery, it is XML HTB requests, which is like the, the thing that enabled Ajax.[00:11:10] And that was the, the, the, the, the sort of inciting incident for JavaScripts being popular as a language.[00:11:16] Jordan: I would largely agree with that. I mean, I think on the, the react side of things, I think we're starting to see more frameworks sort of go after more of that, I guess like master is sort of like on the TypeScript side and more of like a sort of master.[00:11:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The traction is really impressive there. And so I think we're starting to see more surface there, but I think there's still a big opportunity. What do you have for for an over or under hyped on the under hype side? You know, I actually, I, I know I mentioned Apple already, but I think the private cloud compute side with PCC, I actually think that could be really big.[00:11:45] It's under the radar right now. Mm-hmm. But in terms of basically bringing. The on device sort of security to the cloud. They've done a lot of architecturally interesting things there. Who's they? Apple. Oh, okay. On the PCC side. And so I actually think of that.[00:11:58] swyx: So you're negative on Apple [00:12:00] Intelligence, but also on Apple Cloud,[00:12:01] Jordan: on the more of the local device.[00:12:04] Sort of, I think there'll be a lot of workloads still on device, but when you need to speak to the cloud for larger LLMs, I think that Apple has done really interesting thing on the privacy side.[00:12:13] Alessio: Yeah. We did the seed of a company that does that, so Yeah. Especially as things become more co that you set 'em up on purpose.[00:12:18] So that felt like a perfect Yeah, no, I was like, let's go Jordan, you guys concluding before this episode? Tell me about that company after. We'll chat after, but, but yes, I, I think that's like the unique the thing about LLM workflows is like you just cannot have everything be single tenant, right?[00:12:35] Because you just cannot get enough GPUs. Like even like large enterprises are used to having VPCs and like everything runs privately. But now you just cannot get enough GPUs to run in a VPC. So I think you're gonna need to be in a multi-tenant architecture, and you need, like you said, like single tenant guarantees in multi-tenant environment.[00:12:52] So yeah, it's a interesting space.[00:12:55] swyx: Yeah. What about you, Swiss? Under hypes, I want to say [00:13:00] memory. Just like stateful ai. As part of my keynote on, on for just like every, every conference I do, I do a keynote and I try to do the task of like defining an agent, just, you know, always evergreen content, every content for a keynote.[00:13:14] But I did it in a, in a way that it was like I think like a, what a researcher would do. Like you, you survey what people say and then you sort of categorize and, and go like, okay, this is the, the. What everyone calls agents and here are the groups of DEF definitions. Pick and choose. Right. And then it was very interesting that the week after that OpenAI launched their agents SDK and kind of formalized what they think agents are.[00:13:34] CloudFlare also did the same with us and none of them had memory. Yeah, it's very strange. The, pretty much like the only big lab o obviously there, there's conversation memory, but there's not memory memory like in like a, like a let's store a large across fact about you and like, you know, exceed the, the context length.[00:13:54] And here's the, if you, if you're look, if you look closely enough, there's a really good implementation of memory inside of [00:14:00] MCP when they launched with the initial set of servers. They had a memory server in there, which I, I would recommend as like, that's where you start with memory. But I think like if there was a better, I.[00:14:10] Memory abstraction, then a lot of our agents would be smarter and could learn on, on the job, which is something that we all want. And for some reason we all just like ignored that because it's just convenient to, and, but do you feel like[00:14:24] Jacob: it's being ignored or it's just a really hard problem and like lots of, I feel like lots of people are working on it.[00:14:27] Just feels like it's, it's proven more challenging.[00:14:29] swyx: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so Harrison has lang me, which I think now he's like, you know, relaunched again. And then we had letter come speak at our mm-hmm. Our conference I don't know, Zep, I think there's a bunch of other memory guys, but like, something like this I think should be normal in the stack.[00:14:44] And basically I think anything stateful should be interesting to VCs 'cause it's databases and, you know, we know how those things make money.[00:14:51] Jacob: I think on the over hype side, the only thing I'd add is like, I'm, I'm still surprised how many net new companies there are training models. I thought we were kind of like past that.[00:14:58] And[00:14:58] swyx: I would say they died end of last year. And now, [00:15:00] now they've resurfaced. Yeah. I mean they, that's one of the questions that you had down there of like, yeah. Sorry. Is there an opportunity for net new model players? I wouldn't say no. I don't know what you guys think.[00:15:08] Alessio: I, I don't have a reason to say no, but I also don't have a reason to say, this is what is missing and you should have a new model company do it.[00:15:15] But again, I'm an add here. Like, all these guys wanna[00:15:17] swyx: pursue a GI, you know, all, they all want to be like, oh, we'll, we'll like hit, you know, soda on all the benchmarks and like, they can't all do it. Yeah.[00:15:25] Jacob: I mean, look, I don't know if Ilia has the secret secret approach up his sleeve of of something beyond test time compute.[00:15:29] Mm-hmm. But it was funny, I, we had Noam Shaer on the podcast last week. I was asking him like, you know, is, is there like some sort of other algorithmic breakthrough? Would he make a Ilia? And he's like, look, I think what he is implicitly said was test time compute gets to the point where these models are doing AI engineering for us.[00:15:43] And so, you know, at that point they'll figure out the next algorithm breakthrough. Yeah. Which I thought was was pretty interesting.[00:15:47] Jordan: I agree with you folks. I think that we're most interested, at least from our side and like, you know, foundation models for specific use cases and more specialized use cases.[00:15:55] Mm-hmm. I guess the broader point is if there is something like that, that these companies can latch onto [00:16:00] and being there sort of. Known for being the best at. Maybe there's a case for that. Largely though I do agree with you that I don't think there should be, at this point, more model companies. I think it's like[00:16:09] Jacob: these[00:16:09] Jordan: unique data[00:16:09] Jacob: sets, right?[00:16:10] I mean, obviously robotics has been an area we've been really interested in. It's entirely different set of data that's required, you know, on top of like a, a good BLM and then, you know, biology, material sciences, more the specific use cases basically. Yeah. But also specific, like specific markets. A lot of these models are super generalizable, but like, you know finding opportunities to, you know, where, you know, for a lot of these bio companies, they have wet labs, like they're like running a ton of experiments or you know, same on the material sciences side.[00:16:31] And so I still feel like there's some, some opportunities there, but the core kind of like LLM agent space is it's tough, tough to compete with the big ones.[00:16:38] Alessio: Yeah. Agree. Yeah. But they're moving more into product. Yeah. So I think that's the question is like, if they could do better vertical models, why not do that instead of trying to do deep research and operator?[00:16:50] And these different things. Mm-hmm. I think that's what I'm, in my mind, it's like the agents coming[00:16:53] swyx: out too.[00:16:54] Alessio: Well. Yeah. In my, in my mind it's like financial pressure. Like they need to monetize in a much shorter timeframe [00:17:00] because the costs are so high. But maybe it's like, it's not that easy to, do[00:17:04] Jacob: you think they would be, that it would be a better business model to like, do a bunch of vertical?[00:17:07] Well, it's more like[00:17:07] Alessio: why wouldn't they, you know, like you make less enemies if you're like a model builder, right? Yeah. Like, like now with deep research and like search, now perplexity like an enemy and like a, you know, Gemini deep research is like more of an enemy. Versus if they were doing a finance model, you know?[00:17:25] Mm-hmm. Or whatever, like they would just enable so many more companies and they always have, like they had as one of the customer case studies for GBT search, but they're not building a finance based model for them. So is it because it's super hard and somebody should do it? Or is it because the new models.[00:17:41] Are gonna be so much better that like the vertical models are useless anyways. Like this is better lesson. Exactly.[00:17:46] Jacob: It still seems to be a somewhat outstanding question. I, I'd say like, all the signs of the last few years seem to be like a general purpose model is like the way to go. And, you know, you know, like training a hyper-specific model in this, in, in a domain is like, you know, maybe it's cheaper and faster, but it's not gonna be like higher quality.[00:17:59] But [00:18:00] also like, I think it's still an, I mean, we were talking to, to no and Jack Ray from Google last week, and they were like, yeah, this is still an outstanding, like, we, we check this every time we have a new model. Like whether there's you know, there that still seems to be holding. I remember like a few years ago, it felt like all the rage was like the, it was like the Bloomberg GPT model came out.[00:18:14] Everyone was like, oh, you gotta like, you know, massive data. Yeah. I had[00:18:17] swyx: a GPA, I had DP of AI of Bloomberg present on that. Yeah. That must be a really[00:18:20] Jacob: interesting episode to go back on because I feel like, like very shortly thereafter, the next opening AI model came out and just like beat it on all sorts of[00:18:25] swyx: No, it, it was a talk.[00:18:26] We haven't released it yet, but yeah, I mean it's basically they concluded that the, the closed models were better so they just Yeah. Stopped. Interesting. Exactly. So I feel like that's been the but he's I, I would be. He's very insistent that the work that they did, the team he assembled, the data that he collected is actually useful for more than just the model.[00:18:42] So like, basically everything but the model survived. What are the other things? The data pipeline. Okay. The team that they, they, they assembled for like fine tuning and implementing whatever models they, they ended up picking. Yeah, it seems like they are happy with that. And they're running with that.[00:18:57] He runs like 12, 13 [00:19:00] teams at Bloomberg just working. Jenny, I across the company.[00:19:03] Jacob: I mean, I guess we've, we've all kind of been alluding it to it right now, but I guess because it's a natural transition. You know, the other broad opening I have is just what we're paying most attention to right now. And I think back on this, like, you know, the model company's coming into the product area.[00:19:13] I mean, I think that's gonna be like, I'm fascinated to see how that plays out over the next year and kind of these like frenemy dynamics and it feels like it's gonna first boil up on like cursor anthropic and like the way that plays out over the next six months I think will be. What, what is Cursor?[00:19:26] swyx: Anthropic is, you mean Cursor versus anthropic or, yeah. And I[00:19:29] Jacob: assume, you know, over time Anthropic wants to get more into the application side of coding Uhhuh. And you know, I assume over time Cursor will wanna diversify off of, you know, just using the Anthropic model.[00:19:39] swyx: It's interesting that now Cursor is now worth like 10 billion, nine, nine, 10 billion.[00:19:43] Yeah. And like they've made themselves hard to acquire, like I would've said, like, you should just get yourself to five, 6 billion and join OpenAI. And like all the training data goes through OpenAI and that's how they train their coding model. Now it's not as complicated. Now they need to be an independent company.[00:19:57] Jacob: Increasingly, it's seems to the model companies want to get into the [00:20:00] product layer. And so seeing over the next six, 12 months does having the best model, you know let you kind of start from a cold start on the product side and, and get something in market. Or are the, you know, companies with the best products, even if they eventually have to switch to a somewhat worse, tiny bit worse model, does it not, you know, where do the developers ultimately choose to go?[00:20:16] I think that'll be super interesting. Yeah.[00:20:18] Alessio: Don't you think that Devon is more in trouble than cursor? I, I feel like on Tropic, if anything wants to move more towards, I don't think they wanna build the ID like if I think about coding, it's like kind of like, you know, you look at it like a cube, it's like the ID is like one way to get the code and then the agent is like the other side.[00:20:33] Yeah. I feel like on Tropic wants more be on the agent side and then hand you off the cursor when you want to go in depth versus like trying to build the claw. IDEI think that's not, I would say, I don't know how you think the[00:20:46] swyx: existence, a cloud code doesn't show, doesn't support what you say. Like maybe they would, but[00:20:52] Jacob: assume, like I assume both just converge eventually where you want have where will you be able to do both?[00:20:57] So,[00:20:57] swyx: so in order to be so we're, we're talking [00:21:00] about coding agents, whether it's sort of what is it? Inner loop versus auto loop, right? Like inner loop is inside cursor, inside your ID between inside of a GI commit and auto loop is between GI commits on, on the cloud. And I think like to be an outer loop coding agent, you have to be more of a, like, we will integrate with your code base, we'll sign your whatever.[00:21:17] You know, security thing that you need to sign. Yeah. That kinda schlep. I don't think the model ads wanna do that schlep, they just want to provide models. So that, that, that's, that would be my argument against like why cognition should still have, have, have some moat against anthropic just simply because they cognition would do the schlep and the biz dev and the infra that philanthropic doesn't really care about.[00:21:39] Jacob: I know the schlep is pretty sticky though. Once you do it,[00:21:41] swyx: it's very sticky. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's, it's, it's interesting. Like, I, I think the natural winner of that should be sourcegraph. But there's another[00:21:47] Jacob: unprompted point portfolio. Nice. We, I mean they, they're[00:21:51] swyx: big supporters like very friendly with both Quinn and B and they've they've done a lot of work with Cody, but like, no, not much work on the outer [00:22:00] loop stuff yet.[00:22:01] But like any company where like they have already had, like, we've been around for 10 years, we, we like have all the enterprise contracts that you already trust us with your code base. Why would you go trust like factory or cognition as like, you know, 2-year-old startups who like just came outta MIT Like, I don't know.[00:22:17] Product Market Fit in AI[00:22:17] Jacob: I guess switching gears to the to the application side I'm curious for both of you, like how do you kind of characterize what has genuine product market fit in AI today? And I guess less, you more and your side of the investing side, like more interesting to invest in that category of the stuff that works today or kind of where the capabilities are going long term.[00:22:35] Alessio: That's hard. I was asking you to do my job for you, like, man, that's a easy, that's a layout. Tell us all your investing[00:22:40] pieces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, I would say we, well we only really do mostly seed investing, so it's hard to invest in things that already work. Yeah. That fair. Are really late. So we try to, but, but we try to be at the cusp of like, you know, usually the investments we like to make, there's like really not that much market risk.[00:22:57] It's like if this works. Obviously people are gonna [00:23:00] use it, but like it's unclear whether or not it's gonna work. So that's kind of more what we skew towards. We try not to chase as many trends and I don't know, I, you know, I was a founder myself and sometimes I feel like it's easy to just jump in and do the thing that is hot, but like becoming a founder to do something that is like underappreciated or like doesn't yet work shows some level of like dread and self, like you, you actually really believe in the thing.[00:23:25] So that alone for me is like, kind of makes me skew more towards that. And you do a lot of angel investing too, so I'm curious how,[00:23:31] swyx: Yeah, but I don't regard, I don't have, I don't use, put, put that in my mental framework of things like I come at this much more as a content creator or market analyst of like, yeah, it, it really does matter to me what has part of market fit because.[00:23:45] People, I have to answer the question of what is working now When, when people ask me,[00:23:50] Jacob: do you feel like relative to the, the obviously the hype and discourse out there, like, you know, do you feel like there's a lot of things that have product market fit or like a few things, like where a few things? Yeah.[00:23:58] swyx: I was gonna say this, so I have a list [00:24:00] of like two years ago we, I wrote the Anatomy of autonomy posts where it was like the, the first, like what's going on in agents and, and and, and, and what is actually making money. Because I think there's a lot of gen I skeptics out there. They're all like, these, these things are toys.[00:24:13] They're, they're not unreliable. And you know, why, why, why you dedicating your life to these things. And I think for me, the party market fit bar at the time was a hundred million dollars, right? Like what use cases can reasonably fit a hundred million dollars. And at the time it was like co-pilot it was Jasper.[00:24:30] No longer, but mm-hmm. You know, in that category of like help you write. Yeah. Which I think, I think was, was helpful. And then and the cursor I think was on there as, as a, as, as, as like a coding agent. Plus plus. I think that list will just grow over time of like the form factors that we know to work, and then we can just adapt the form factors to a bunch of other things.[00:24:47] So like the, the one that's the most recently added to this is deep research.[00:24:52] misc: Yeah.[00:24:52] swyx: Right. Where anything that looks like a deep research whether it's a grok version, Gemini version, perplexity version, whatever. He has an investment [00:25:00] that that he likes called Brightwave that is basically deep research for finance.[00:25:02] Yeah. And anything where like all it is like long-term agent, agent reporting and it's starting to take more and more of the job away from you and, and just give you much more reason to report. I think it's going to work. And that has some PMFI think obviously has PMF like I, I would say. It's I, I went to this exercise of trying to handicap how much money open AI made from launching open ai deep research.[00:25:25] I think it's billions. Like the, the, the mo the the she upgrade from like $20 to 200. It has to be billions in the R off. Maybe not all them will stick around, but like that is some amount of PMF that is didn't they have to immediately drop it down[00:25:38] Jacob: to the $20 tier?[00:25:39] swyx: They expanded access. I don't, I wouldn't say, which I thought was[00:25:42] Jacob: really telling of the market.[00:25:43] Right. It's like where you have a you know, I think it's gonna be so interesting to see what they're actually able to get in that 200 or $2,000 tier, which we all think is, is, you know, has a ton of potential. But I thought it was fascinating. I don't know whether it was just to get more people exposure to it or the fact that like Google had a similar product obviously, and, and other folks did too.[00:25:59] But [00:26:00] it was really interesting how quickly they dropped it down.[00:26:02] swyx: I don't, I think that's just a more general policy of no matter what they have at the top tier, they always want to have smaller versions of that in the, in the lower tiers. Yeah. And just get people exposure to it. Just, yeah, just get exposure.[00:26:12] The brand of being first to market and, and like the default choice Yeah. Is paramount to open ai[00:26:18] Jacob: though. I thought that whole thing was fascinating 'cause Google had the first product, right? Yeah. And no, like, you know, I, we[00:26:24] swyx: interviewed them. I, I, I, straight up to their faces, I was like, opening, I mocked you.[00:26:28] And they were like, yeah, well, actually curious, what's[00:26:30] Jacob: it, this is totally off topic, but whatever. Like, what is it going to take for go? Google just released some great models like a, a few weeks ago. Like I feel like it's happening. The stuff they're shipping is really cool. It's happening. Yeah, but I, I, I also, I feel like at least in the, you know, broader discourse, it's still like a drop in the bucket relative to[00:26:45] swyx: Yeah.[00:26:45] I mean, I, I can riff on, on this. I, I, but I, I think it's happening. I think it takes some time, but I am, like my Gemini usage is up. Like, I, I use, I use it a lot more for anything from like summarizing YouTube videos to the [00:27:00] native image generation Yeah. That they just launched to like flash thinking.[00:27:02] So yeah, multi-mobile stuff's great. Yeah. I run you know, and I run like a daily sort of news recap called AI news that is, 99% generated by models, and I do a bake off between all the frontier models every day. And it's every day. Like does it switch? I manual? Yes, it does switch. And I, man, I manually do it.[00:27:18] And flash is, flash wins most days. So, so like, I think it's happening. I think I was thinking, I was thinking about tracking myself like number of opens of tragedy, g Bt versus Gemini. And at some point it will cross. I think that Gemini will be my main and, and it, it, I I like that will slowly happen for a bunch of people.[00:27:37] And, and, and then that will, that'll shift. I, I think that's, that's a really interesting for developers, this is a different question. Yeah. It's Google getting over itself of having Google Cloud versus Vertex versus AI studio, all these like five different brands, slowly consolidating it. It'll happen just slowly, I guess.[00:27:53] Alessio: Yeah.[00:27:54] Yeah. I, I mean, another good example is like you cannot use the thinking models in cursor. Yeah. And I know [00:28:00] Logan killed Patrick's that they're working on it, but I, I think there's all these small things where like if I cannot easily use it, I'm really not gonna go out of my way to do it. But I do agree that when you do use them, their models are, are great.[00:28:12] So yeah. They just need better, better bridges.[00:28:15] swyx: You had one of the questions in the prep.[00:28:16] Debating Public Companies: Google vs. Apple[00:28:16] swyx: What public company are you long and short and minus Google versus, versus Apple, like, long, short. That was also my[00:28:23] Jacob: combo. I, I feel like, yeah, I mean, it does feel like Google's really cooking right now.[00:28:26] swyx: Yeah. So okay, coming back to what has product market fit[00:28:29] Jacob: now,[00:28:29] swyx: now that we come[00:28:30] Jacob: back to my complete total sidetrack,[00:28:33] Customer Support and AI's Role[00:28:33] swyx: there's also customer support.[00:28:35] We were talking on, on the car about Decagon and Sierra, obviously Brett, Brett Taylor is founder of Sierra. And yeah, it seems like there's just this, these layers of agents that'll like, I think you just look at like the income statement or like the, the org chart of any large scaled company and you start picking them off one by one.[00:28:51] What like is interesting knowledge work? And they would just kind of eat. Things slowly from the outside in. Yeah, that makes sense.[00:28:57] Alessio: I, I mean, the episode with the, [00:29:00] with Brett, he's so passionate about developer tools and Yeah. He did not do a developer tools. We spent like two hours talking about developer tools and like, all, all of that stuff.[00:29:10] And it's like, I, they a customer support company, I'm like, man, that says something. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like when you have somebody like him who can like, raise any amount of money from anybody to do anything. Yeah. To pick customer support as the market to go after while also being the chairman of OpenAI, like that shows you that like, these things have moats and have longstanding, like they're gonna stick around, you know?[00:29:32] Otherwise he's smarter than that. So yeah, that's a, that's a space where maybe initially, you know, I would've said, I don't know, it's like the most exciting thing to, to jump into, but then if you really look at the shape of like, how the workforce are structured and like how the cost centers of like the business really end up, especially for more consumer facing businesses, like a lot of it goes into customer support.[00:29:54] AI's Impact on Business Growth[00:29:54] Alessio: All the AI story of the last two years has been cost cutting. Yeah. I think now we're gonna switch more towards growth revenue. [00:30:00] Totally. You know, like you've seen Jensen, like last year, GTC was saying the more you buy, the more you save this year is that the more you buy, the more you make. So we're hot off the[00:30:08] Jacob: press.[00:30:10] We were there. We were there. Yeah. I do think that's one of the most interesting things about the, this first wave of apps where it's like almost the easiest thing that you could you could get real traction with was stuff that, you know, for lack of a better way to frame it, like so that people had already been comfortable outsourcing the BPOs or something and kind of implicitly said like, Hey, this is a cost center.[00:30:24] Like we are willing to take some performance cut for cost in the past. You know, the, the irony of that, or what I'm really curious to see how it plays out is, you know, you, you could imagine that is the area where price competition is going to be most fierce because it's already stuff that you know, that people have said, Hey, we don't need the like a hundred percent best version of that.[00:30:42] And I wonder, you know, this next wave of apps. May prove actually even more defensible as you get these capabilities that actually are, you know, increased top line or whatnot where you're like, you take ai, go to market, for example. Like you're, you'd pay like twice as much for something that brought, like, 'cause there's just a kind of very clean ROI story to it.[00:30:59] And so [00:31:00] I wonder ultimately whether the, like this next set of apps actually ends up being more interesting than the, than the first wave.[00:31:05] Alessio: Yeah,[00:31:05] Voice AI and Scheduling Solutions[00:31:05] Jordan: I think a lot of the voice AI ones are interesting too, because you don't need a hundred percent precision recall to actually, you know, have a great product.[00:31:12] And so for example, we looked into a bunch of you know, scheduling intake companies, for example, like home services, right? For electricians and stuff like that. Today they miss 50% of their calls. So even if the AI is only effective, say 75% of the time, yeah, it's crazy, right? So if it's effective 75% of the time, that's totally fine because that's still a ton of increased revenue for the customer, right?[00:31:32] And so you don't need that a hundred percent accuracy. Yeah. And so as the models. And the reliability of these agents are getting better is totally fine, because you're still getting a ton of value in the meantime.[00:31:41] swyx: Yeah. One, this is, I don't know how related this is, but I, one of my favorite meetings at it is related one of my favorite meetings at AI Engineer Summit, it is like, like I do these, this is our first one in New York, and I it is like met the different crew than, than you meet here.[00:31:55] Like everyone here is loves developer tools, loves infra over there. They're actually more interested in [00:32:00] applications. It's kind of cool. I met this like bootstrap team that, like, they're only doing appointment scheduling for vets. They, they, yeah. And like, they're like, this is a, this is an anomaly. We don't usually come to engineering summits 'cause we usually go to vet summits and like talk to the, they're, they're like, you know, they, they're, they're literally, I'm sure it's a[00:32:16] Jordan: massive pain point.[00:32:17] They're willing to pay a lot of money.[00:32:20] Alessio: Yeah. But, but, but this is like my point about saving versus making more, it's like if an electrician takes two x more calls, do they have the bandwidth? To actually do two X more in-house and they get higher. Well, yeah, exactly. That's the thing is like, I don't think today most businesses are like structured to just like overnight two, three x the band, you know?[00:32:38] I think that's like a startup thing. Like mo most businesses then you make an[00:32:42] swyx: electrician agent. Well, no, totally. That's how do you, how do you recruiting agent for electrician, for like[00:32:49] Alessio: electrician. Great. That's a good point. How do you do lambda school for electrician? I, it's hilarious.[00:32:53] Jacob: Whack-a-mole for the bottlenecks in these businesses.[00:32:55] Like as, oh, now we have a ton of demand. Like, cool. Like where do we go?[00:32:58] swyx: Yeah.[00:32:59] Exploring AI Applications in Various Fields[00:32:59] swyx: So just to [00:33:00] round out the, the this PMF thing I think this is relevant in a certain sense of, like, it's pretty obvious that the killer agents are coding agents, support agents, deep research, right? Roughly, right. We've covered all those three already.[00:33:10] Then, then, then you have to sort of be, turn to offense and go like, okay, what's next? And like, what, what about, I[00:33:16] Jacob: mean, I also just like summarization of, of voice and conversation, right? Yep. Absolutely. We actually had that on there. I[00:33:21] swyx: just, I didn't put it as agent. Because seems less agentic, you know? But yes, still, still a good AI use case.[00:33:26] That one I, I've seen I would mention granola and what's the other one? Monterey, I think a bridge was one wanted to mention. I was say bridge. Yeah, bridge. Okay. So I'll just, I'll call out what I had on my slides. Yeah. For, for the agent engineering thing. So it was screen sharing, which I think is actually kind of, kind of underrated.[00:33:42] Like people, like an AI watching you as you do your work and just like offering assistance outbound sales. So instead of support, just being more outbound hiring, you say[00:33:51] Jacob: outbound sales has brought a market fit?[00:33:53] swyx: No, it, it, it will, it's come out. Oh, on the comp. Yeah. I was totally agree with that. Yeah. Hiring like the recruiting side education, like the, [00:34:00] the sort of like personalized teaching, I think.[00:34:02] I'm kind of shocked we haven't seen more there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that's like, like it's like Duolingo is the thing. Amigo.[00:34:08] Jacob: Yeah. I mean, speak in some of these like, you know,[00:34:10] swyx: speak, practice, yeah. Interesting. And then finance, I, there's, there's a ton of finance cases that we can talk about that and then personal ai, which we also had a little bit of that, but I think personal AI is a harder to monetize, but I, I think those would be like, what I would say is up and coming in terms of like, that's what I'm currently focusing on.[00:34:27] Jacob: I feel like this question's been asked a few different ways but I'm, I'm curious what you guys think it's like, is it like, if we just froze model capabilities today, like is there, you know, trillions of dollars of application value to be unlocked? Like, like AI education? Like if we just stopped today all model development, like with this current generation of models, we could probably build some pretty amazing education apps.[00:34:44] Or like, how much of this, how much of, of all this is like contingent upon just like, okay, people have had two years with GBT four and like, you know, I don't know, six months with the reasoning models, like how much is contingent upon it just being more time with these things versus like the models actually have to get better?[00:34:58] I dunno, it's a hard question, so I'm gonna just throw it [00:35:00] to you.[00:35:00] Alessio: Yeah. Well I think the societal thing, it's maybe harder, especially in education. You know, like, can you basically like Doge. The education system. Probably you should, but like, can you, I I think it's more of a human,[00:35:14] Jacob: but people pay for all sorts of like, get ahead things outside of class and you know, certainly in other countries there's a ton of consumer spend and education.[00:35:21] It feels like the market opportunity is there.[00:35:23] swyx: Yeah. And, and private education, I think yeah, public Public is a very different, yeah. One of my most interesting quests from last year was kind of reforming Singapore's education system to be more sort of AI native, just what you were doing on the side while you were Yes.[00:35:38] That's a great, that's a great side quest. My stated goal is for Singapore to be the first country that has Python as a first language, as a, as a national language. Anyway, so, but the, the, the, the defense, the pushback I got from Ministry of Education was that the teachers would be unprepared to do it.[00:35:53] So it's like, it was like the def the, like, the it was really interesting, like immediate pushback. Was that the defacto teachers union being like, [00:36:00] resistant to change and like, okay. It's that that's par for the course. Anyway, so not, not to, not to dwell too much on that, but like yeah, I mean, like, I, I think like education is one of those things that pe everyone, like has strong opinions on.[00:36:11] 'cause they all have kids, all be the education system. But like, I think it's gonna be like the, the domain specific, like, like speak like such a amazing example of like top down. Like, we will go through the idea maze and we'll go to Korea and teach them English. Like, it's like, what the hell? And I would love to see more examples of that.[00:36:29] Like, just like really focus, like no one tried to solve everything. Just, just do your thing really, really well[00:36:34] Defensibility in AI Applications[00:36:34] Jacob: on this trend of of, of difficult questions that come up. I'm gonna just ask you the one that my partners like to ask me every single Monday, which is how do you think about defensibility at the at the app layer?[00:36:41] Alessio: Oh[00:36:41] Jacob: yeah, that's great. Just gimme an answer. I can copy paste and just like, you know, have network effects. Auto, auto response.[00:36:47] swyx: Honestly like network effects. I think people don't prioritize those enough because they're trying to make the single player experience good. But then, then they neglect the [00:37:00] multiplayer experience.[00:37:00] I think one of the I always think about like load-bearing episodes, like, you know, as, as park that you do one a week and like, you know, some of those you don't really talk about ever again. And others you keep mentioning every single podcast. And one of the, this is obviously gonna be the last one. I think the recap episodes for us are pretty load-bearing.[00:37:15] Like we, we refer to them every three months or so. And like one of them I think for us is Chai for me is chai research, even though that wasn't like a super popular one among the broader community outside of Chai, the chai community, for those who don't know, chai Research is basically a character AI competitor.[00:37:32] Right. They were bootstraps, they were founded at the same time and they have out outlasted character of de facto. Right. It's funny, like I, I would love to ask Mil a bit more about like the whole character thing, but good luck getting past the Google copy. But like, so he, like, he, like he doesn't have his own models, basically he has his own network of people submitting models to be run.[00:37:54] And I think like. That is like short term going to be hurting him because he doesn't have [00:38:00] proprietary ip. But long term he has the network network effect to make him robust to any changes in the future. And I think, like I wanna see more of that where like he's basically looking himself as kind of a marketplace and he's identified the choke point, which is will be app or the, the sort of protocol layer that interfaces between the users and the model providers.[00:38:18] And then make sure that the money kind of flows through and that works. I, I wish that more AI builders or AI founders emphasize network effects. 'cause that that's the only thing that you're gonna have with the end of the day. Yeah. And like brand deeds into network effects you.[00:38:34] Jacob: Yeah, I guess you know, harder in, in the enterprise context.[00:38:36] Right. But I mean, I feel, it's funny, we do this exercise and I feel like we talk a lot about like, you know, obviously there's, you know kind of the velocity and the breadth you're able to kind of build of product surface area. There's just like the ability to become a brand in a space. Like, I'm shocked that even in like six, nine months, how an individual company can become synonymous with like an entire category.[00:38:52] And like, then they're in every room for customers and like all the other startups are like clawing their way to try and get in like one, you know, 20th of those rooms.[00:38:59] Jordan: There's a [00:39:00] bunch of categories where we talk about an IC and it's like, oh, pricing compression's gonna happen, not as defensible. And so ACVs are gonna go down over time.[00:39:08] In actuality, some of these, the ACVs have doubled, we've seen, and the reason for that is just, you know, people go to them and pay for that premium of being that brand.[00:39:16] Jacob: Yeah. I mean, one thing I'm struck by is there's been, there was such a head fake in the early days of, of AI apps where people were like, we want this amazing defensibility story, and then what's the easiest defensibility story?[00:39:24] It's like, oh, like. Totally unique data set or like train your own model or something. And I feel like that was just like a total head fake where I don't think that's actually useful at all. It's the much less, you sound much less articulate when you're like, well the defensibility here is like the thousand small things that this company does to make like the user experience design everything just like delightful and just like the speed at which they move to kind of both create a really broad product, but then also every three, six months when a new model comes out, it's kind of an existential event for like any company.[00:39:49] 'cause if you're not the first to like figure out how to use it, someone else will. Yeah. And so velocity really matters there. And it's funny in in, in kinda our internal discussions, we've been like, man, that sounds pretty similar to like how we thought about like application SaaS [00:40:00] companies. That there isn't some like revolutionary reason you don't sound like a genius when you're like, here's applications why application SaaS company A is so much better than B.[00:40:07] But it's like a lot of little things that compound over time.[00:40:10] Infrastructure and AI: Current Trends[00:40:10] Jacob: What about the infrastructure space, guys? Like I'm curious you know. What, how do you guys think about where the interesting categories are here today and you know, like where, where, where do you wanna see more startups or, or where do you think there are too many?[00:40:21] Alessio: Yeah. Yeah, we call it kind of the L-L-M-O-S. But I would say[00:40:24] swyx: not we, I mean Andre, Andre calls it LMOS[00:40:27] Alessio: Well, but yeah, we, well everyone else just copies whatever two. And Andre, the three of you call it the LMO. Well, we have just like four words of ai framework Yeah. Yeah. That we use. And LM Os is one of them, but yeah, I mean, code execution is one.[00:40:39] We've been banging the drum, everybody now knows where investors in E two B. Mm-hmm. Memory, you know, is one that we kind of touched on before. Super interesting search we talked about. I, I think those are more not traditional infra, not like the bare metal infra. It's more like the infra around the tools for agents model, you know?[00:40:57] Which I think is where a lot of the value is gonna [00:41:00] be. The security[00:41:00] swyx: ones. Yeah.[00:41:01] Alessio: Yeah. And cyber security. I mean there's so much to be done there. And it's more like basically any area where. AI is being used by the offense. AI needs to be applied on the defense side, like email security, you know, identity, like all these different things.[00:41:16] So we've been doing a lot there as well as, you know, how do you rethink things that used to be costly, like red teaming and maybe used to be a checkbox in the past Today they can be actually helpful. Yeah. To make you secure your app. And there's this whole idea of like, semantics, right? That not the models can be good at.[00:41:32] You know, in the past everything is about syntax. It's kind of like very basic, you know, constraint rules. I think now you can start to infer semantics from things that are beyond just like simple recognition to like understanding why certain things are happening a certain way. So in the security space, we're seeing that with binary inspection, for example.[00:41:51] Like there's kinda like the syntax, but then there are like semantics of like understanding what is the scope overall really trying to do. Even though this [00:42:00] individual syntax, it's like seeing something specific. Not to get too technical, but yeah, I, I think infra overall, it's like a super interesting place if you're making use of the model, if you're just, I'm less bullish.[00:42:13] Not, not that it's not a great business, but I think it's a very capital intensive business, which is like serving the models. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think that infra is like, great people will make money, but yeah. I, I, I don't think there's as much of a interest from, from us at[00:42:25] Jordan: least. Yeah. How, how do you guys think about what OpenAI and the big research labs will encompass as part of the developer and infra category?[00:42:31] Yeah.[00:42:31] Alessio: That, that's why I, I would say I search is the first example of one of the things we used to mention on, you know, we had X on the podcast and perplexity obviously as a, as an API. The basic idea[00:42:44] swyx: is if you go into like the chat GBT custom GPT builder, like what are the check boxes? Each of them is a startup.[00:42:50] Alessio: Yeah. And, and now they're also APIs. So now search is also an a p, we will see what the adoption is. There's the, you know, in traditional infra, like everybody wants to be [00:43:00] multi-cloud, so maybe we'll see the same Where change GPD search or open AI search. API is like, great with the open AI models because you get it all bundled in, but their price is very high.[00:43:11] If you compare it to like, you know, XI think is like five times the, the price for the same amount of research, which makes sense if you have a big open AI contract. But maybe if you're just like pick and best in breed, you wanna compare different ones. Yeah. Yeah, they don't have a code execution one.[00:43:26] I'm sure they'll release one soon. So they wanna own that too, but yeah. Same question we were talking about before, right? Did they wanna be an API company or a product company? Do you make more money building Tri g BT search or selling search? API?[00:43:38] swyx: Yeah. The, the broader lesson, instead of like going, we did applications just now.[00:43:42] And then what do you think is interesting infrastructure? Like it's not 50 50, it's not like equal weighted, like it, it's just very clearly the application layer has like. Been way more interesting. Like yes, there, there's interesting in infrastructure plays and I even want to like push back on like the, the, the whole GPU serving thing because like together [00:44:00] AI is doing well, fireworks, I mean I was, that worked.[00:44:02] Alessio: It's like data[00:44:02] Jacob: centers[00:44:03] Alessio: and inference[00:44:03] Jacob: providers,[00:44:04] Alessio: the,[00:44:04] swyx: you know,[00:44:04] Alessio: I think it's not like the capital[00:44:06] swyx: Oh, I see.[00:44:07] Alessio: I for, for again, capital efficiency. Yeah. Much larger funds. So you, I'm sure you have GPU clouds. Yeah.[00:44:13] swyx: Yeah. So that's, that's, that is one thing I have been learning in, in that you know, I think I have historically had dev tools and infra bias and so has he, and we've had to learn that applications actually are very interesting and also maybe kind of the killer application of models in a sense that you can charge for utility and not for cost.[00:44:33] Right? Which, where like most infrastructure reduces to cost plus. Yeah. Right. So, and like, that's not where you wanna be for ai. So that's, that's interesting for, for me I thought it would be interesting for me to be the only non VC in the room to be saying what is not investible. 'cause like then I then, you know, you can I, I won't be canceled for saying like, your, your whole category is, we have a great thing where like, this thing's[00:44:54] Jacob: not investible and then like three months later we're desperately chasing.[00:44:56] Exactly. Exactly. So you don't wanna be on a record space changes so [00:45:00] fast. It's like you gotta, every opinion you hold, you have to like, hold it quite loosely. Yeah.[00:45:02] swyx: I'm happy to be wrong in public, you know, I think that's how you learn the most, right? Yeah. So like, fine tuning companys is something I struggled with and still, like, I don't see how this becomes a big thing.[00:45:12] Like you kind of have to wrap it up in a broader, ser broader enterprise AI company, like services company, like a writer, AI where like they will find you and it's part of the overall offering. Mm-hmm. But like, that's not where you spike. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. And then I, I'll, I'll just kind of AI DevOps and like, there's a lot of AI SRE out there seems like.[00:45:32] There's a lot of data out there that that should be able to be plugged into your code base or, or, or your app to it's self-heal or whatever. It's just, I don't know if that's like, been a thing yet. And you guys can correct me if you're, if I'm wrong. And then the, the last thing I'll mention is voice realtime infra again, like very interesting, very, very hot.[00:45:49] But again, how big is it? Those are the, the main three that I'm thinking about for things I'm struggling with.[00:45:54] Jordan: Yeah. I guess a couple comments on the A-I-S-R-E side. I actually disagree with that one. Yeah. I think that the [00:46:00] reason they haven't sort of taken off yet is because the tech is just not there quite yet.[00:46:04] And so it goes back to the earlier question, do we think about investing towards where the companies will be when the models improve versus now? I think that's going to be, in short term we'll get there, but it's just not there just yet. But I think it's an interesting opportunity overall.[00:46:18] swyx: Yeah. It's my pushback to you is, well it's monitoring a lot of logs, right?[00:46:22] Yeah. And it's basically anomaly detection rather than. Like there's, there's a whole bunch of like stuff that can happen after you detect the anomaly, but it's really just an anomaly detection. And we've always had that, you know, like it's, this is like not a Transformers LLM use case. This is just regular anomaly detection.[00:46:38] Jordan: It's more in terms of like, it's not going to be an autonomous SRE for a while. Yeah. And so the question is how, how much can the latest sort of AI advancements increase the efficacy of going, bringing your MTTR

This podcast is filled with information from experts that will make buying, financing and managing expenses along with keeping your home and rental spaces safe and healthy.  Karen & Janet start off with buying and rental opportunities in Ventura County, Joe Parisi  from rate Mortgage is their first guest with good news on rates plus essential information on how to manage your FICO score, Joe has the info you need.  To close out the podcast Greg Powell of Emerson Building Energy Services introduces us to a variety of devices that provide you with security cameras, mold detectors, leak detectors, CO detectors and more.  Listen in and find how you can make these cost-effective devices in your home!  Another awesome podcast from Girls On The Air! 

You may have seen reports in the papers today about how the amount of new parking spots in suburbs with suburban rail loop stations would be capped, as the state government moves towards these so called 'car lite' zones. In this edition of The Conversation Hour we look at whether living in a bigger apartment could trump having a car park.Also, new data reveals that teens are still tanning, and while there has been a decline in recent decades, some say social media trends are encouraging young people to tan. Plus, From the Golden Girls to White Lotus — what does what we are seeing on our screens tell us about the tricky business of friendship groups.

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This week in Episode 34 of That Greenwich Life, we're wrapping up our 2025 Glow-Up Series with an inspiring conversation about creating spaces that nurture, comfort, and reflect who you are – no matter the size or location of the place you call home. My guest, Andrea “Andi” Sinkin Jaffe, founder of Andrea Sinkin Design, (Also @Andrea_sinkin_design on Instagram) is a Greenwich-based interior designer whose work has been featured by House Beautiful, Martha Stewart, and New England Home.Andi shares her expertise on turning any home—whether it's a sprawling estate or a cozy studio—into a haven that feels both stylish and deeply personal. And she shares a few ways you can make your space feel like a safe space on every budget. We talk about the power of layering in design, why lighting is key to setting the mood, and how even the smallest updates can make a space feel new and alive. We also reflect on the emotional connection we have to our homes and how making intentional design choices can create a true sense of sanctuary, especially during life's most chaotic seasons. In This Episode:• Andi's journey to building a thriving design business—and why she took the nontraditional path.• Why layering is the secret to creating a cozy and inviting space.• How thoughtful lighting choices can transform a room (and why blue light is a no-go for most spaces!).• The importance of incorporating personal pieces, like a family heirloom or vintage rug, into your design.• Practical tips for reimagining your home without breaking the bank. Thank You to This Week's Sponsors:A heartfelt thank-you to our sponsors who make this podcast possible:• Illume Fertility: Offering compassionate, personalized fertility care. Illume Fertility provides expert guidance and support every step of the way. Learn more at IllumeFertility.com.• Steam Greenwich: A staple for fresh, homemade dim sum, noodles, and more. Whether you're dining in or ordering takeout, Steam brings delicious comfort food to your table. Order today at SteamGreenwich.com.• Podpopuli studio: Visit Podpopuli.com for more info. Stay Connected:Follow me on Instagram at @DorothyOnTV, shop That Greenwich Life merch at DorothyOnTV.com, and watch this episode on YouTube @DorothyTV.If you loved this episode, please leave a review and share it with friends. Together, let's continue to glow up in every part of life. And remember—don't just live your life, love it!

Where can you find affordable property that can be converted to co-living space? Who is entering this business and why? Hosted by Michelle Martin, this episode of Money and Me features Benny Ong, Co-founder of I Quadrant, and Ivan Cai, Founder and Head of Research at I Quadrant. Together, they delve into the performance of Singapore’s property market in 2024 and share key trends shaping 2025, including rising interest in co-living. Explore the fundamentals of the model, its potential in and beyond Singapore, and how co-living is evolving post-pandemic. Learn about the risks, rewards, and strategies for investing in co-living spaces locally and overseas. Plus, hear insights into Vietnam’s real estate market and emerging global opportunities. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the Around the House Show, we delve into the often-overlooked importance of roofing with expert Matt Spanton. Many homeowners tend to focus on visible damages like windows and siding after a storm, but Spanton emphasizes that up to 40% of a home's exterior is its roof, which can suffer significant damage that's easily missed. He shares insights on the risks of ignoring these issues, including potential loss of insurance coverage and warranty. Joining the conversation is designer Wendy Glaser, who brings a unique perspective on home aesthetics and maintenance. Tune in for valuable tips on keeping your home safe and stylish, and discover how to access the latest episodes early as an Around the House Insider.Saturday's Around the House Show dives deep into the often-overlooked aspects of home maintenance, with a particular focus on roofing. The host welcomes roofing expert Matt Spanton, who sheds light on the importance of inspecting roofs after storm events. Many homeowners tend to overlook their roofs, focusing instead on visible damage to windows and siding. Spanton emphasizes that 40% of a home's exterior is comprised of the roof, which plays a critical role in protecting the entire structure. He shares insights on how failure to address roof damage promptly can lead to exacerbated issues years down the line, potentially resulting in loss of coverage and warranty. This urgent call to action serves as a reminder for homeowners to maintain vigilance not just over what is immediately visible, but also over those parts of the home that are out of sight, yet crucial for long-term integrity. The second hour introduces designer Wendy Glaser, who discusses transforming a house into a home. Glaser brings a fresh perspective on aesthetics and functionality, encouraging listeners to consider how design impacts their daily lives. This segment contrasts the technical side of roofing with the creative side of home design, appealing to listeners who may be more inclined towards decor than maintenance. Her engaging anecdotes, including a humorous incident involving a windstorm and a makeshift solution for a skylight, illustrate the intersection of practicality and design. Together, Spanton and Glaser offer a comprehensive look at home care, blending the technical with the artistic, and equipping listeners with the knowledge to protect and beautify their spaces.Takeaways: The upcoming episode features discussions on roofing and home design improvements. After a storm, homeowners often overlook roof damage which can lead to bigger issues. It's crucial to address roof problems early to avoid losing coverage and warranties. A significant portion of a home's exterior is the roof, yet it's often neglected. Listeners can gain early access to episodes by becoming Around the House Insiders. The show includes insights on home improvement and maintenance from industry experts. Mentioned in this episode:Monument Grills Check out Monument Grills.com for more information Monument Grills Upgrade your trailer game with Summit TrailerFor more information about Summit Trailers and their extensive dealer network visit them at the website link Summit Trailers

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Hey lady! It's officially Fall and the temperature is starting to cool. All of you Autumn girlies are ready for your pumpkin spice and chunky sweaters, but is your home ready for cozy time? This week Terri and Dr. Dom uncover all of the elements that make their homes a place of sanctuary, rest and rejuvenation. Whether it's placing a decorative faux plant or throw blankets soft as pillows, how you accentuate your home tells the tale of not only your personal style and vibe, but also your mental health and vibration.By sharing their favorites the two have been able to elevate their home space so that they can carry their unique energy into the world. We want to hear from you, lady. What does your comfy home checklist include? Tune in to the Aftershow for more styling and décor tips for your most inviting home experience! Quote of the Day:"Your home should tell a story of who you are and be a collection of the things you love." – Michelle and Steph, the founders of Blk and Home  Learn more about our advertiser, BiOptimizers, by visiting the link below. Use promo code herspace at checkout to enjoy 10% off your purchase!  URL: bioptimizers.com/herspace  Wisdom Wednesdays with TerriCultivating H.E.R. Space Sanctuary  Resources:Dr. Dom's Therapy PracticeBranding with TerriMelanin and Mental HealthTherapy for Black Girls Psychology TodayTherapy for QPOC  Where to find us:Twitter: @HERspacepodcastInstagram: @herspacepodcastFacebook: @herspacepodcastWebsite: cultivatingherspace.com

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Join Dr. Regan for this third episode in the "Lifespan of a Household" series. This episode highlights topics important to living in shared space, including the sensory environment, alone time, and control over objects. Also, check out links to resources on her website and a transcript of the episode below.  Autism in the Adult website Resources for professionals Video Visits Video Courses   Hi, everyone. Thanks for joining me for this third episode in our series on autism and the lifespan of a household. My name is Dr. Theresa Regan, and I'm your host. I'm a neuropsychologist, a certified autism specialist, and mom to a young adult on the spectrum. This series is the result of listener requests about living as a couple or as a family within a shared household. And as we've touched on, one of the challenges of tackling the topic is that households can take so many different forms. And I know that I can't do them all justice in just one series, but I wanted to touch on some important life seasons within a household. So our first episode was about dating, and the second covered the topic of physical intimacy and relationships. And today we're going to talk about sharing physical space with other people. So joining households, living in the same space. I'll also let you know that a lot of my website renovations have been completed. There are still some things I'm tweaking and trying to make work better, but lots of the pages are active and working. And I also now have the new service of video visits for people to consult me about the topic of autism or how that impacts you in your household. There are some geographic limitations and there are some specifics about payment and if you are interested in that type of service head on over to my website at adultandgeriatricautism.com and look under video visits. So there are many different instances where physical space might be shared in a type of household. So we may be talking about a traditional couple or a family household or even other situations like having roommates or renting a portion of someone else's home. And sharing living space can be complex for lots of reasons, but for the autistic, there may be a few specific challenges that we could cover in the episode today that would help people navigate those things. So in particular, we're going to cover the sensory environment, alone time, and having control over objects. So let's tackle the sensory environment first. First, because the autistic individual may have sensory sensitivities, living in the household with other people may be overwhelming because people bump into each other or reach over each other or they brush against each other to navigate the physical space. Noise can be another sensory input that's elevated in a household, and the noise could include voices, babies crying, arguments, even just surround noise like television or music. How things smell can be important to someone on the spectrum. The scent of food cooking or aftershave, candles, cigarettes, cleaning products, taste and texture can come into play if we're talking about shared groceries or family meals, does everyone have to eat the same thing? Let's not forget about visual inputs. So not only does this include lighting, but a very common issue that I hear about is concern for the visual space or having visual chaos. So for some on the spectrum, the sight of a visual messiness or overcrowdedness or chaos can be overwhelming. And this could include things like decorations, messy work areas, things on the floor, clothes, garbage, food, strewn about various surfaces. And this visual chaos can feel overwhelming. Now, before you start laughing because you've seen someone's space and you know that they're not concerned about visual chaos, that's true. Not everyone on the spectrum will have the same sensory processing feature. And neither will everyone who is neurotypical. So people in the household will have different preferences. Many people on the spectrum may have very little care for the visual cleanliness or organization of their space except for a few specific things. So maybe they have very significant care about where their favorite objects are placed or how things are lined up, but other things are strewn over the floor and there's not much care at all. The more people there are in the household, the more mix there will be of habits and preferences and clash with the habits and preferences of others. Another complicating factor is that as people age across life seasons, their sensory processing and preferences can also change. So you have not only complexity, but you have this multifaceted, always changing sensory sensory environment, and sensory preferences across multiple people within the same shared living space. So that is a moving, dynamic, complex kind of issue. Now, one of the best ways to start addressing this is what we've talked about in multiple other episodes, And that is self-awareness. So that's that ability to say, hey, I know what makes me tick. I know what my nervous system likes and doesn't like. I know what I need today. And I also observe and have talked to and am aware of other household members. I have awareness that what they need may not be the same thing I need. And this place is shared by people with different needs. So having awareness of what the needs are is a huge place to start. The next step is to add the right now element. So the self-awareness that we talked about, that's the always element. Like, I know what's generally, typically always true about our household from day to day. Now, look at the right now element. So in this specific moment, what do people need? What do people need this morning, today, this week, this holiday season? One way to accomplish this in a household is to have huddles. So a huddle is a very quick rundown. It's a triaging process. For those of you who maybe use that in a workplace or know what that means, triaging is the ability to quickly scan what's happening, what's most important, what needs to be done the quickest, and to prioritize how these things will be handled. So in a triaging process where people are able, they're already self-aware, they're are able to highlight how their system is doing and what the day will be or has been like given their schedule. A huddle could take place between two parents of three young kids, maybe in the morning and after work. This type of brief communication helps everyone get on the same page. So instead of this confrontation and argument where one person says, I told you to do this or why are you doing that? We start with, hey, this is really chaotic. what do you need right now? This is what I need. This is the schedule for the day. This type of communication also represents and reestablishes that the household is committed to partnership. I want you to do well. I want to know what's important to you and what you need. And here is what is a priority for me today. So rather than being impulsive and reactive to what's happening throughout the day, oh my gosh, something just happened to me. I react to it because I want it to stop. We can start off with awareness and a general game plan rather than kind of flipping around crisis mode, and often that means pushing against other people. The household itself will also need some adaptations to the sensory needs of the individual. So not only do we start with self-awareness and then have up-to-date huddles, like this is what's going on this morning, this is what's going on after work, we also have to look at the sensory needs in the whole household and how that can be adapted. So there will likely be some foods that are completely off the table, like there's just such a high smell, taste, or texture aversion that cannot be avoided or coped with that it's not worth the amount of drain on people in the household. So one person may love fish or collard greens or something with a strong smell or scent that's really overwhelming to someone else and there's just no way around it. It just gets into the house. So those foods are off the table. If you're going to have that food, go out to someone's house as a guest and eat it there or eat it at a restaurant. Some adaptations may not be all or nothing. They may have to do with getting equipment like sound-canceling headphones or earbuds for people, sometimes having a designated quiet time if the kids are old enough to understand stand and regulate this. Like 12 to 1 is quiet time. A weighted blanket may be a good sensory tool for calming, as might something like a rocking chair or a swing set. Another thing I want to point out that may be confusing to people about the sensory environment in household with neurodiversity is that the person who is sound sensitive may also make a lot of noise. And that seems to be because the noise they make is predictable and controlled by them, whereas the noise that comes at them can feel repeatedly startling and overwhelming and they don't have the control that they need. And another thing is that sometimes, you know, it's this hard to understand presentation because the person may be loud because they're overwhelmed and need quiet. So it can be, you can't always kind of look and say, well, you're being loud, you must not need quiet. Or you're running around and crashing and rolling, you must not need quiet time. So a lot of times those kinds of behaviors are a signal that the person does need some regulation help, and that can be achieved by a quieter space, time alone, a weighted blanket, and those kinds of things. In addition to having things about the environment that support sensory needs within the household, consider having separate time or alone time so that people don't have to do things together. I know sometimes as a family, we try to create this together time or a family evening or a forced family time. And sometimes that's great and there are great memories. And other times, you may become aware that the needs of the people in the household are such that separation time is so important that there's a place for that as well. So for example, one person could do homework in one household location and a second person in another. So rather than having both kids at the table doing homework so that it's convenient for for the parent to help or whatever, that just may be unrealistic for either of those individuals and their sensory needs. They may need space and quiet and time. One individual could work on a chore at a separate time or space than another individual doing their chore. So I worked with a family once that had two teen girls and one was neurotypical and one was autistic And they were very perplexed at the autistic individual who didn't have a diagnosis that all of a sudden she would melt down and push her sister and just be so, quote, unreasonable, end quote, that she'd have to wait outside until she could calm down and come back in. And what actually was happening is that because they were doing chores in the same room, which was the kitchen every night, but the chores were split. The shared space was too much. And sometimes the sister would do just silly, friendly, wonderful things that she thought would be no big deal, but were really overwhelming. At the end of the day, you know, the resilience for the one child was just really low and touch, especially unexpected touch, a hug from behind, tapping on the shoulder would just set things off. So allowing people to do their chores in separate areas. There could also be individual variants. Sometimes our kind of go-to within a household is that everyone is the same. It's most fair if everything is the same for every child all the time. And actually that just may not be realistic and it may not end with the best outcome. So sure, there are some things that are the same for every person in the household and there probably needs to be some individual variance as well. So this is your toothpaste flavor. This is your shampoo scent. And in the end, the target will be a balance of number one, no one does this. So maybe that's smoking or Cook's Curry or Blair's Music all the time. Number two, individual variations. So we make sacrifices for each other and we give each person breaks and some alone time. And number three, some of we all do this. Like we all have huddles. We all try to figure out how everyone can get their needs met. We all try to focus on compromise and having an awareness in the moment. So having a mix of this never happens, this always happens, and let's do some individual triaging. That's going to work really nicely. So what we covered so far was the sensory environment. And the second point we're going to talk about is alone time. So alone time is typically really important for the regulation of the nervous system for the autistic. So protecting someone's alone time likely needs to be a very high priority. You can see how this gets easily eaten up, particularly if there's kind of a traditional family unit where there are multiple people in the same household. Everyone comes together at dinnertime. They have multiple things that they need to get finished. They need to work together. There are errands to run. And there's a lot of times when other people need something from you. I want a snack, I need help with this, I need you to do X, Y, Z so I can have a break. This would be a good time for a huddle. So let's regroup. Let's get a game plan that we actually decide on rather than just reacting about. And let's not let life roll over us and us trying to keep up with the flow. You might want to designate where someone can get alone time. Maybe there's a tree house, a garage apartment, a basement area. Try to be creative and create space for this. So it may be in a corner of a room with a small tent-like structure and pillows inside. Maybe under a table with a blanket for small children. The adults need alone time too. Regrouping after After work, it can be really hard for both spouses to come home from work and then feel like they both need alone time and yet they have kids running around in the house or other demands on them. The huddle can help work together to figure out how each person can decompress. Maybe alone time is riding your bike after work, driving your kid to baseball practice, but needing to read a book in the car rather than getting out and visiting with parents or watching practice. Maybe there are things the family do all together, like eating meals or doing chores or playing games or watching movies, but there may be room for thinking about who needs alone time rather than together time, and not to have this picture that the family is doing the the best when everyone wants to be together all of the time. So really trying to protect and designate alone time and separation time for each family member based on what their nervous system needs. The third thing I want to talk about in a neurodiverse household has to do with having control over objects. So this may or may not be something that rings a bell with you or that you relate to. But for many people on the spectrum, they just have a real keen eye for objects and they may like to accumulate them or have collections of them. They may have a hard time throwing things away or sorting through things that they don't need. And so there can can be this real feeling of importance about where the objects are and are they safe and can I see them? And so that may have to be taken into account within a household as well. The person may say, yes, a place for everything and everything in its place. Again, that these objects are important and the symmetry of them is important and where they go is important. And I want people to put everything back where it should belong. One person may really focus on keeping items rather than parting with them to free up space and reduce clutter. letter and that can be a difference in how different people in the household want to work. So it could really stress someone to have too many objects in the house and it can really stress another person to part with an object. Take for example an autistic child who leaves their stuffed animal in the family car and wakes up in the middle of the night and realizes that that they don't have their stuffed animal and they're very worried that rabbit is not going to be okay in the car. So if I can't see where rabbit is, then I feel like they might not be okay. I really need parent to go out and get the stuffed animal from the car. Now for the autistic child, that may be a very strong, important nervous system need because they may actually really worry about this object if it's not in a known location. So understanding is one of the first steps, right? I understand why this child needs this and I respond according to how high the importance is for them. Compromise is another part of this. Like if I have self-awareness that that objects are really important to you, and you have self-awareness, that visual calm is really important to me, then can we compromise? Could a compromise be that we store things in a storage unit that are not out in the open, but you know that they're safe and protected, and you can can alternate objects whenever you want. So you could take some objects that are on display at home. You can go to the storage unit and change them out for other objects and bring those objects home. So some sort of compromise would be ideal. So understanding this actually is really important to them. And them understanding what's very important to you. So what doesn't work is these repeated conversations about, it's fine, it's just a stuffed animal, it's just a transformer collection, it's, you know, even for people who are retiring and downsizing, we hear this, that, you know, I just can't get rid of my collections, it would be like a death in the family to downsize. It can be that upsetting. So again, I think the part I want to point out here is that that neurologic. Strain is very real for them. That's really a very difficult thing to do. And reasoning with the person about why you don't need these boxes anymore or the cleanliness of the area or the safety of the area, that's really not going to be that compelling to them. What might work a little bit better is number one, seeing if they can give some of the objects to a trusted person so that it has a good home, rather than just throwing it out or giving it away to an unknown person. Another thing that could work is compromising about a space where things can go. As we said, it could be a rented space, it could be an outbuilding, a place in the basement, and how much can be visible at one time. And it also could be compromise about spaces that are protected. So you have your space in this man cave here or whatever, and you get to put your objects in this space. But every other place in the house that's a family area, we compromise about. And then I get my space. And so I get to make decisions totally in my space about visual calm and being uncluttered. So we have some compromise space and some individualized space. Living in a household is complex because everyone has a nervous system. Everyone's system is a little bit different than the other person's. And the best place to start is self-awareness. And knowing that there's going to be this fluidity from day to day and from life season to life season. The things that are calming or soothing or upsetting and frustrating are going to be different to a two-year-old than they are to an 18-year-old than they are to a 50-year-old, etc. So this dynamic and moving thing that is a household is going to have these elements. So self-awareness, compromise, huddling up, making some decisions about the space and how the space can support the needs of the individuals, and really knowing what is legitimately very difficult for each person. I'm so glad you joined me today to talk about living in a household, sharing space, joining households. Households, and I hope you'll continue to listen to this series on the Lifespan of House

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Extending our living spaces to include our outdoor spaces is changing the landscape, literally. To help us explore the implications of this phenomenon, we invited Rosie on the House Certified Partner Mark Wentland of CYC Landscaping to provide us with some insights. From shade structures and plants to patio surfaces, lighting and outdoor kitchen possibilities. Original broadcast archive page with expanded content https://rosieonthehouse.com/podcast/on-the-house-hour-elevate-your-outdoor-living-space-with-mark-wentland-of-cyc-landscaping/

Have you ever dreamed of creating an indoor living space that reflects your love for the outside world?  Being Wicked Salty, I have ALWAYS wanted to live in a home the reflects my love for the ocean and today I find out how to do that!  My guest today is Rebecca Borges, the Founder of Live Plant Happy & Borges Design!  Rebecca tells us how to connect our body to the outside rhythm of the world via natural elements & design!  Find out how creating a space that reflects your personal love for nature can help elevate your life & business!  Today we're bringing your interior design dreams to life!     Follow Rebecca https://planthappy.com/ & https://borgesdesign.com/ Follow Jen https://wickedsalty.com/  

Jason had the chance to sit down with Lesli Rauch VP of Merchandising at Bachmans in today's edition of DeRusha Seeds sponsored by our friends at Bachman's talking all things outdoor living!  

Tune in this week as Jess sits down with Michelle Dew, interior decorator and mental health advocate to chat how our space can impact our mind, feelings, and emotions.  We chat through how all five senses are affected by our space and surroundings, and how being intentional with the design and function of your home can support your overall mental well-being.  We discuss not only the ideas behind your space, but dive into practical ways to work with your space to make it a haven for you! We hope you enjoy! More from Michelle: - @cultivate.your.space - www.cultivateyourspace.com - https://cultivateyourspace.com/freebie Thank you to our Sponsors! Toups and Co Organics - use code ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MODERNMAMAS15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for 15% off or your first purchase!  Qualia - Up to $100 off and use code MODERNMAMAS at checkout for an additional 15% off! Visit ⁠www.neurohacker.com/MODERNMAMAS⁠ Paleovalley - Head to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠paleovalley.com/modernmamas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for 15% off Wellnesse - Check out Wellnesse ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for 15% off your order  Foria Intimacy Products - Get 20% off your first order of CBD based intimacy products by visiting ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠foriawellness.com/MODERNMAMAS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ OR use code MODERNMAMAS at checkout. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-modern-mamas-podcast/support

On today's episode of I AM HOME, our hosts Tyler, Hilary and Becca are joined by Janet Lura, a long-time NFMer who specializes in patio buying for the store. All this month we're talking about investing in your home; today's focus is on everything outdoors. If the warmer weather is motivating you to spruce up your outdoor living spaces, this episode is for you! Our hosts guide you through what to consider before investing in patio furniture and how to pick pieces that maximize your style and comfort, as well as trends we'll see this summer. Join us for this fun and educational episode sure to inspire you to create your outdoor oasis as soon as possible! Resources: NFM Outdoor

SHOW NOTES: Today's show has tips for crafting your perfect outdoor living space, asking key questions before hiring a contractor, and choosing the best tile for your next project. Whether your DIY project is indoors or outdoors, we've got the answers you need for all your home improvement questions! - Outdoor Living: Follow these 5 tips for creating the perfect outdoor living space. - Hiring Contractors: Choose wisely by asking these 5 key questions before hiring a home improvement professional. - Choosing Tile: Learn how to pick the best type of tile for your project.   Q & A: - HVAC Water: Gail's boiler provides both the heat and the hot water. She needs to find out how to set the mixing valve so the shower water won't be too hot. - Bathroom Vent: Mike wonders about connecting his bathroom fan vent to the plumbing vent. He can't do that, but we've got tips on how to run the exhaust vent to the outside. - Plumbing: A cracked waste pipe flooded the basement. Helen should file an insurance claim and hire a remediation company to clean up the sewage damage. - Foundation Cracks: Pat has multiple big cracks in his foundation walls. He'll need a structural engineer to address the problem and design the proper repairs. - Odors: Mason can't find the source of odors in his home. We have a few ideas and give him tips on steam cleaning the carpets and priming and painting the walls to seal them. - Textured Wall Prep: Dave wants to tile over a textured bathroom wall. Sanding the surface will give him better adhesion to glue the tile right over it. - Kitchen Cabinet Lazy Susan: The top shelf of an old kitchen cabinet carousel has dropped. Marge gets advice on how to find parts and try to repair it.   ASK A QUESTION: Need help with your own home improvement or décor question? We'd love to help! Call the show 24/7 at 888-MONEY-PIT (888-666-3974) or post your question here: https://www.moneypit.com/ask. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode, Young Han interviews Nis Frome, an entrepreneur who recently transitioned from tech entrepreneurship to fractional consulting. They discuss the challenges of fundraising and the demanding nature of venture-backed startups. Nis shares his experience of living in Austin and the differences from New York City. They also explore the joys of being a dad and the benefits of multi-generational living. Nis reflects on the importance of creating adversity for children's growth and the balance between protecting and preparing them for the future. In this conversation, Nis Frome and Young Han discuss the challenges of parenting in the digital age, including the impact of technology on children's mental health. They also explore the decision-making process of choosing the right school for their children and the importance of social interaction in education. The conversation delves into the need for education reform and the limitations of the current school system. They also touch on the challenges of finding the right daycare and the importance of living space for a growing family. The main takeaway is to contextualize the advice given and received as parenting is a personal journey with different goals for each family. Please enjoy & subscribe! Chapters: 01:32 Transitioning from Tech Entrepreneurship to Consulting 06:21 Living in Austin and the Differences from New York City 09:14 Benefits of Fractional Consulting 11:13 Balancing Work and Family as a Fractional Consultant 13:23 The Joys of Being a Dad 14:18 Multi-generational Living and Community 16:15 Creating Adversity for Children's Growth 23:43 The Challenges of Parenting in the Digital Age 26:17 Choosing the Right School for Your Child 28:29 The Impact of Schooling on Social Skills 30:02 The Need for Education Reform 32:37 Choosing the Right Daycare 35:39 The Importance of Living Space for a Growing Family 38:38 Advice for Parents: Contextualize the Advice You Give and Receive ABOUT OUR GUEST: Nis Frome is a seasoned entrepreneur and angel investor, known for his expertise in building and advising groundbreaking ventures like Coderbyte, Session Rewind, JOON, and more. With a successful track record that includes co-founding Feedback Loop (acquired by DISQO), Nis brings invaluable insights to the intersection of quality of life and the future of work. As an angel investor, he has championed innovative startups such as DEN, Beam, Realm, and Reflex.  FOLLOW US! Website: https://thegirldadshow.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/TheGirlDadShow/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheGirlDadShow TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thegirldadshow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-girl-dad-show ABOUT OWNERS CLUB: Young launched an exclusive community called ‘Owners Club' in 2023. This is a community where ambitious and growth-minded business owners come together to effectively scale their passions into profits. Members take part in interactive workshops led by industry experts, network with other business owners and gain access to resources tailored to their specific career fields. For being a valuable TGDS listener you are eligible for an exclusive discount on Owners Club membership! Find out more about Owners Club: https://www.owners.club/ Apply Now to Owners Club: https://ownersclub.samcart.com/products/owners-club-membership/ *Use code TGDS75 for 75% off the first year of your annual membership! *If you click on our links, we may receive a tiny commission AND… most of the time, you will receive an offer. Win/Win! The products that The Girl Dad Show recommends are the ones we believe in.

Join me in this episode where I chat with Lauren Shihadeh of Monarch Ayurveda. She explains this ancient approach to medicine that focuses on creating harmony in the body. Join us to learn what Ayurveda is, how to understand it, how to learn about your own body's seasonal needs, a few stories, and some of Lauren's favorite tips.I've personally had amazing results from working with Lauren. Understanding how to help support my body through the seasons has been instrumental in my wellness throughout the year. Want to follow Lauren and learn about her events, workshops, and one-on-one consultations?Go here on Instagram:@monarchayurveda@ayurveda_wellness_houseThanks so much for listening to Feng Shui Living!Hosted by Lisa MortonMake sure you subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more and follow Lisa here:www.purelivingwithlisamorton.comwww.instagram.com/purelivingwithlisamortonwww.facebook.com/purelivingwithlisamortonwww.pinterest.com/purelivingwithlisamortonThanks to our secondary show sponsor:Good Chi - Balance your energy and space

Ever wondered about the profound impact your living space can have on your life? Join Whitney in this engaging episode as she sits down with Anjie Cho, an architect, Feng Shui consultant and author of the recent book, Mindful Homes. Together, they delve into the art of transforming the energy of your indoor environments through simple changes.   Anjie explores the interconnectedness of our spaces and lives, delving into the delicate balance of yin and yang energy. Drawing on ancient wisdom from Feng Shui and mindfulness, she shares insights and rituals that can elevate your living space.   Discover in this episode how your environment goes beyond being a mere physical structure; it is a dynamic force influencing the flow of energy in your life. Tune in to glean insights from Anjie on inviting in positive changes in both your life and space to ensure the continuous flow of lifeforce energy.   Here's what to look forward to in today's episode The judgment around physical spaces Anjie has noticed Qi, chi, 101 Ideas of how to enhance the Lifeforce energy flow in a positive way Common ways that people inhibit the flow of their Chi The auspicious number nine The intersection of feng shui and mindfulness An Awareness Practice exercise with being present in your home Angie shares some non negotiables to ensure good life force energy flows in her space One question women could be asking themselves more: how friendly am I with my home? ‌ Anjie and I would love to know what you connected with from today's episode - are you going to adjust the flow in your space? Share today's episode on Instagram and be sure to tag us - @‌anjiecho and @‌Whitneywoman! ‌ Connect with Whitney: Instagram | Website | Free 5-Minute Guided Meditation | Electric Ideas Podcast ‌ Connect with Anjie Cho: Instagram | Website | Mindful Design School | Holistic Spaces | Reset Your Home and Spirit: Year of the Wood Dragon

Are you looking to slow down this year?When speaking with so many of my clients, friends, and family I'm hearing that they just want to go at a slower pace.  One thing that many people struggle with is finding that space where their body CAN slow down. In this episode, I'm sharing tips to easily implement a slower pace in your day-to-day. As I mention in the episode... you can't go from 100 mph to 0 in your car and you can't do the same with your body. I think you'll find these tips helpful for finding that ease and flow that your body has been craving. Thanks so much for listening to Feng Shui Living!Hosted by Lisa MortonMake sure you subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more and follow Lisa here:www.purelivingwithlisamorton.comwww.instagram.com/purelivingwithlisamortonwww.facebook.com/purelivingwithlisamortonwww.pinterest.com/purelivingwithlisamortonThanks to our secondary show sponsor:Good Chi - Balance your energy and space

I'm excited to share this discussion I had with Allison Preiss of The Infused Life. Years ago, Allison opened my eyes to the harmful effects of some of the products that I was using in my home, and she helped me find natural alternatives. In this episode, Allison shares how to easily replace these harmful chemicals with non-toxic substitutes and she also shares my favorite hand soap recipe! It's quick, easy, and fun to make!Go here to connect with Allison: @allison_preiss (stan.store)Thanks so much for listening to Feng Shui Living!Hosted by Lisa MortonMake sure you subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more and follow Lisa here:www.purelivingwithlisamorton.comwww.instagram.com/purelivingwithlisamortonwww.facebook.com/purelivingwithlisamortonwww.pinterest.com/purelivingwithlisamortonThanks to our secondary show sponsor:Good Chi - Balance your energy and space

In this week's episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with David Wear, a nonresident senior fellow and director of the Land Use, Forestry, and Agriculture Program at Resources for the Future, about the ability of US forests to remove and store carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Wear discusses how US forests fit into emissions-reduction efforts, different approaches for estimating the amount of carbon dioxide that US forests can sequester, the implications of using different modeling approaches in designing policy, and the potential of afforestation and forest protection as carbon offsets. References and recommendations: “Land Use Change, No-Net-Loss Policies, and Effects on Carbon Dioxide Removals” by David N. Wear and Matthew Wibbenmeyer; https://www.rff.org/publications/working-papers/land-use-change-no-net-loss-policies-and-effects-on-carbon-dioxide-removals/ “Managing Wildfires to Combat Climate Change” episode of Resources Radio with David Wear; https://www.resources.org/resources-radio/managing-wildfires-to-combat-climate-change-with-david-wear/ “A Sand County Almanac” by Aldo Leopold; https://www.aldoleopold.org/about/aldo-leopold/sand-county-almanac/ “The American West as Living Space” by Wallace Stegner; https://press.umich.edu/Books/T/The-American-West-as-Living-Space “The Great Cash-for-Carbon Hustle” by Heidi Blake; https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/23/the-great-cash-for-carbon-hustle

Having mastered probability lanes, man found an indefinite number of Earths—and everyone could have a planet all to himself, if he wanted. But there was one joker in the deal… Living Space by Isaac Asimov, that's next on The Lost Sci-Fi Podcast, with at least one lost vintage sci-fi short story in every episode. Thanks to YouTube listener Sackanutz who recently bought us $10 worth of coffee, “Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving!” We did and thank you. There's a link in the description if you'd like to buy us a coffee. It is greatly appreciated.https://www.buymeacoffee.com/scottsVTis the season for gift giving for a lot of people around the world. Why not get something for yourself from our store. We've got t-shirts and hoodies, beer mugs, coffee mugs and more. There are four designs to choose from and there's a link in the description if you want to take a look. Merch - https://lostscifi.creator-spring.com/Here's the answer to our trivia question, Who authored the 1869 short story that introduced the first known fictional description of a space station? The answer, Edward Everett Hale who wrote “The Brick Moon.”Our story can be found in the May 1956 Science Fiction Magazine. You'll find the sci-fi goodness on page 3. Living Space by Isaac Asimov… Why did I narrate this story? Two words, Isaac Asimov. We receive a lot of requests for Asimov's stories and we do everything we can to keep our listeners happy. Although the idea of one family living on an entire planet seems farfetched it does seem like a request some people would make on an overcrowded earth if technology made it possible. This story has the feel of Philip K Dick's The Man in the High Castle in some ways and the government lying to its citizens, while it may be infuriating, isn't anything that comes as a shock. I enjoyed narrating Living Space and I hope you enjoyed listening to it.Sign up for our newsletter https://dashboard.mailerlite.com/forms/266431/102592606683269000/share https://twitter.com/lost_sci_fiNext week on The Lost Sci-Fi Podcast, another Philip K. Dick story by request, The slovenly wub might well have said: Many men talk like philosophers and live like fools. Beyond Lies the Wub by Philip K. Dick, that's next week on The Lost Sci-Fi Podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The atomic bomb meant, to most people, the end. To Henry Bemis it meant something far different—a thing to appreciate and enjoy. Time Enough At Last by Lynn Venable, that's next on The Lost Sci-Fi Podcast, with at least one lost vintage sci-fi short story in every episode. We are thankful for you and for all our listeners around the world. There are a lot of ways you can support our podcast, just listening to the podcast is one way and there are many others.Conrad Chaffee chose to buy us $25 worth of coffee! “Fantastic podcast. Only one request: after each story, I'd love to hear your thoughts about it. What did you think of it? Why'd you choose it? Even if it's only 30 seconds, I think this would be a huge bonus for all the listeners out there. Keep up the good work!” Thanks Conrad! We appreciate you and we'll give your suggestion a shot starting today.There's a link in the description if you'd like to buy us a coffee. It will be greatly appreciated.https://www.buymeacoffee.com/scottsVYou can also buy your favorite vintage sci-fi on our website lostscifi.com and when you do use the promo code sale, lowercase letters only, to save on everything on lostscifi.com.Here's our trivia question for today, Who authored the 1869 short story that introduced the first known fictional description of a space station? The answer in two days. Today's story was also an episode of The Twilight Zone. In season 1 episode 8, Burgess Meredith played Henry Bemis in the story written by Lynn Venable. Venable is only the second female author we have featured on The Lost Sci-Fi Podcast, and there will be many more. I had to watch the Twilight Zone episode after narrating the story and yes there are some changes from the original story but the core of the story remains intact.Venable was born in New Jersey in 1927. She married at 18 and moved to Dallas, Texas where she lived for more than 40 years. She only wrote 7 short stories and all were published from 1952 to 1957.Open your copy of the January 1953 edition of IF Worlds of Science Fiction magazine to page 95 for Time Enough At Last by Lynn Venable… Merch - https://lostscifi.creator-spring.com/ Sign up for our newsletter https://dashboard.mailerlite.com/forms/266431/102592606683269000/share https://twitter.com/lost_sci_fiHere you go Conrad, and everybody else of course, I chose to narrate this story for a number of reasons, one of which is that we are responding to many of our listeners requesting stories written by women. It happens to be a great story and even before I watched The Twilight Zone episode I could clearly see the world that she painted so perfectly. Also I happen to be a fan of and fascinated with apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic science fiction. In two days on The Lost Sci-Fi Podcast, Having mastered probability lanes, man found an indefinite number of Earths—and everyone could have a planet all to himself, if he wanted. But there was one joker in the deal… Living Space by Isaac Asimov, that's in two days on The Lost Sci-Fi Podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The environment you live in has the most profound impact on your health and wellbeing, but are you aware of the toxins and pollutants we're surrounded by on a daily basis? That is why today's episode is so important. We talk about toxins that are overlooked in your house and what you can do about them. Our guest is Ryan Blaser, the founder and CEO of Test My Home, an environmental company dedicated to improving your health by changing the environment around you. As a functional medicine doctor for your home, Ryan uses his expertise in building biology and healthy home consulting to identify and address toxic sources that could be impacting your health.After a unique personal wellness journey, Ryan founded Test My Home to help others achieve optimal health. He personally experienced the detrimental effects of mold exposure and lead inhalation, which caused unusual and serious health symptoms like fatigue, weight loss, and brain fog. After unsuccessful attempts with conventional doctors, Ryan took the initiative to investigate his home environment and found the source of his health issues. He cured himself and is now sharing his knowledge and experience with the world.The definition of biohacking is to change the environment around you, and inside of you, so you have full control of your own biology. This is a part of core biohacking, and it's one I think a lot of us just don't think about. We take our supplements, we do our cold plunges, we do all the different biohacks, but just cleaning up the environment around you could make a really big difference. So, in this episode you'll learn about the most common pollutants and toxins in your home, how to identify them, and ways you can mitigate or eliminate their effects.00:00:17 — The Top 5 Pollutants Indoors & What To Do About ThemRyan's personal experience getting sick from environmental toxinsMoldy Movie: moldymovie.comThe myth behind green buildingsSolutions for toxic mold exposure in residential buildingsHow to identify mold in the homeWhat you should do if you have a smelly home instead of air freshenersHow important is a gas stove vs. an electric range?How lighting affects us and types of lights to use in your home00:21:30 — Understanding the Dangers of Fragrances, Mold & VOCsThe surprising ingredients in candles and air freshenersHomebiotic spray: homebiotic.com/product/homebiotic-sprayWhat to do when you live in humid environments to prevent moldMeridian Upgrade Labs: upgradelabs.com/meridianTips for dealing with moisture in your homeRecommendations to mitigate carbon monoxide dangersExplaining VOCs and how you can absorb or filter them out The extreme toxicity and effects of formaldehyde 00:42:11 — Sneaky Pollutants: Protecting Your Home from Gas & NoiseSymptoms of a leaky sewer gasOzone pollution versus ozone therapySneaky places you can find surface radiation from nuclear plantsProtecting yourself from small particles Reducing noise stressors in the homeLearning to listen to your body and intuition to identify toxins or stressorsFree course: https://www.happyhome5.com/ ResourcesDave Asprey's NEW Book ‘Smarter Not Harder' is out now: https://daveasprey.com/books Dedicated landing page for the podcast and access to the 5 part healthy home mini course: https://www.happyhome5.com/Test My Home main website: https://www.testmyhome.com/ (If booking through the website with our sales team, mention Dave Asprey)Instagram account for lots of free content: https://www.instagram.com/testmyhome/Moldy Movie: https://moldymovie.com/The Human Upgrade is produced by Crate Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The scarcity of affordable housing, particularly affecting young professionals, is widely recognized. To shed light on a potential solution, we have Matt Ryan as a guest on the show to dive into the intricacies of co-living spaces. Discover how these spaces work and why they may be an excellent investing option for you to consider.    Topics on Today's Episode How does the Re-viv co-living model work Important considerations for converting a property into a co-living space The rising trend of co-living spaces and the advantages it offers An effective method for learning and executing your business model  Why you should hire the right people and how to do it   Resources/Links mentioned Craigslist  Coliving.com  Who Not How by Dan Sullivan | Kindle, Paperback, and Hardcover   The Most Important Thing by Howard Marks | Kindle, Paperback, and Hardcover   Kolbe A™ Index  Traction by Gino Wickman | Kindle, Paperback, and Hardcover     About Matt Ryan Matt Ryan started Re-viv in 2016, capitalizing on his passion for high-performance construction, community development, and sustainable buildings. The catalyst was a community member in the neighborhood where he bought his first investment property: Ms. Pam. Ms. Pam walked daily to the elementary school where she worked and took the bus to her night shift job to provide for her granddaughter. As Matt grew to understand how more investment and development could change the neighborhood and potentially push out the Ms.Pams of the world, he desired a better balance. In 2015, he moved to San Francisco to base his new endeavor on revitalizing communities through impactful investment real estate strategies. To him, affordable housing that is walkable, bikeable, and close to necessary retail and job centers shouldn't be just for the affluent.    Connect with Matt  Website: Re-viv    Are you ready to experience the cash flow life? Just text “BOOK” to (480) 500-1127 to get a FREE copy of Corey's book, Copy Your Way to Success, and learn how apartment investing can change your life today!   Don't forget to download my Free Workshop Quick Start Video Series, and if you like what you have heard, please leave a review on iTunes.

The crew talks about hydronic floors, old-house features, underdeck living space, insulation, brick fireblocking, and problem basement floors.