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Piano Music courtesy of Harpeth Presbyterian Church, used with permission. Audio clip courtesy of News Channel 17/Nashville, less than 15 seconds (fair use) The issue before the Senate of Tennessee is whether or not an “illegal” has access to a taxpayer-funded activity ie Our Public Schools.It's caused quite a stir in the latest rent-a-mob and they once again confused a legislative assembly for a Football Stadium.The Governor wasn't having it! He not only reminded them they were welcome only as spectators, but threated them with arrest… for interfering with the business of the house…As a further clarification, the bill is not yet come before the house, unknown to the gallery, the vote was on a motion to “table” or postpone debate. I recommend to those student “activists” to find a copy of Roberts Rules of Order, and bone up on the legislative process…

Meet Susan Leahy, MA, CSP, a Certified Speaking Professional with over 20 years of coaching, consulting, and keynote experience. As the co-founder of Group to TEAM Leadership Solutions Inc., Susan helps organizations worldwide transform group dynamics into powerful, high-performing teams. She is also the creator of America's top-rated Robert's Rules of Order training site (RobertsRulesMadeSimple.com) and The Confident Woman Program, empowering individuals to lead with clarity and confidence. Known for her high-energy, interactive, and practical approach, Susan is the go-to expert for building a culture of TEAM and inspiring meaningful leadership. Join us as Susan shares powerful insights on team building, leadership, and confidence—and how to create a culture that thrives on collaboration and success. https://www.instagram.com/susanleahycoach/?hl=en https://robertsrulesmadesimple.com

Today, we're talking about people who think Roberts Rules is an acceptable form of bullying. It turns out, shouting "Point of order! Point of order!" over and over again is not an excuse to get up in a parliamentarian's personal space. Our conversation is inspired by Deborah Copperud's recent experience at the Minneapolis DFL City Convention. We talk about what's wrong with the DFL process, some potential solutions, and importantly, why those fixes will never happen. In a surprising twist, we agree the current deeply flawed process is still better than a primary. John's guests are Conrad Zbikowski, new chair of the Minneapolis DFL, and Deborah Copperud of the new substack "Deborah Copperud Shops at Target." Watch: https://youtube.com/wedgelive Join the conversation: https://twitter.com/wedgelive Support the show: https://patreon.com/wedgelive Wedge LIVE theme song by Anthony Kasper x LaFontsee

Denise Avant joins the SC Association of Black Leaders to discuss Roberts Rules of Order. We hope you will enjoy the information shared on this podcast!

It can be difficult to understand how White Bird Clinic's departments are connected and how they interact. This episode explores some of the complexity and depth of the Clinic as a whole. We get to know Al Ullman, WBC's IT Systems Administrator, and his history with the Clinic, facilitating discussions and meetings, and elements of consensus within our unique internal structure. For those curious about Roberts Rules of Order, which the Clinic loosely has based meeting process out of, you can find it here: Robertsrules.org To find out more about White Bird Clinic, visit whitebirdclinic.org.

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You know the basics of parliamentary procedure but knowing more about the nuts and bolts of parliamentary procedure will lead to more efficient meetings and the seamless creation of accurate and complete minutes-- a win for both the board and your office. Take a listen to gain a level in your understanding of Roberts Rules and how it intersects with Ohio education law and voting majorities. In this episode, you'll hear a portion of our recent webinar on Parliamentary Procedure with Hollie Reedy from Ennis Britton. You will also hear OASBO's COO Kim Laughtery facilitating the webinar and posing the questions from attendees to Hollie. Watch the full webinar Connect with us on collaborate.

What are Robert's Rules of Order? Why does Democrats Abroad use them in the AGM? Rob Carolina gives us the history plus the pros and cons.

On this episode of WTF California Podcast, Antioch Unified School District Board Meeting deserves a giant baloney slap for the shenanigans that went on--what a complete joke from not understanding Roberts Rules of Order, attempts to suppress public comments and fake outrages. Meanwhile, 1 student shot on a Football in Southern California, Oakland Police hold another press conference outlining increase in crime. Suspects arrested for looting in the Caldor Fire zone and family of 5 attacked by homeless in Malibu.  Have a great Labor Day. Articles From the Show Both Antioch School Board special meeting agenda items tabled for up to 60 days on split votes Arrest of Antioch High student draws outcry Two shot, including student outside Santee High School; lockdown lifted Oakland police address spike in crime following violent month of August Caldor Fire Update: Crews Take Advantage of Weather, Increase Containment; 3 Looting Suspects Arrested Family of 5 allegedly attacked by two homeless people with machete in Malibu; dad loses eye California Senate votes to mail ballots in all elections City of L.A. can't seize and discard homeless people's bulky possessions, U.S. appeals court says Thousands still waiting for unemployment benefits in CA as federal pandemic relief expires Saturday San Diego lawmaker's bill would require price transparency from food delivery apps

President Biden tries to win over MAGA by giving them money. Ben riffs. And Dave Glowacz--publisher of Inside Chicago Government--returns for another fun-filled breakdown of your Chicago City Council in action. Dave has clips from recent meetings in which aldermen and Mayor Lightfoot dueled, using arcane parliamentary maneuvers as weapons. Listen and learn so you can impress your friends with your mastery of Roberts Rules of Order.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

"Lutheran" Confessions Not Lutheran, Used by ELCA, Contain Hyper-Euro Sacerdotalism and Romanism, Authors Do Not Reply to Questions from GN Gottesdienst News (GN) has learned that the “Lutheran” Confessions (the Book of Concord) are not Lutheran. The Book of Concord is used in an official capacity by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) - which denies the inerrancy of the Bible, ordains women, and is in fellowship with Greenpeace. Both LCMS seminaries: Concordia Seminary Saint Louis (which was named after a Roman Catholic saint - Roman Catholics deny the doctrine of justification and the inerrancy of the Bible) and Concordia Seminary Fort Wayne (founded by Wilhelm Loehe, hyper-euro opponent of C.F.W. Walther who did not believe in voters assemblies) use the ELCA approved texts in their seminary classes. Why would Bible-believing seminaries teach using the Book of Concord that is used by the ELCA? Letters to both Dr. Thomas Egger and Dr. Larry Rast were not answered as of this publication. The Book of Concord is a Romanizing book that never mentions the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod or C.F.W. Walther. The Book of Concord never mentions Walter A. Meier, nor does it denounce Seminex, Nadia Bolz-Weber, or Matthew Harrison. The Book of Concord never mentions the Brief Statement, and as far as we can tell, none of the authors of the texts even wore briefs.   Catholic The Book of Concord never uses the word “Lutheran” or “Protestant,” but the word “Catholic” is used 13 times, and in the 1921 Triglotta translation, often even using an uppercase C. The Triglotta was published by Concordia Publishing House. Letters to Concordia Publishing House - demanding why a CPH product has uppercase-C “Catholic” being used to describe Lutherans - were not answered at the time of this publication. The Athanasian Creed (which was not even composed by Athanasius) is included in the Book of Concord. The modernist Matthew Harrison-approved Lutheran Service Book (LSB) includes a translation of the Athanasian Creed that contains the following examples of Romanism: “Whoever desires to be saved must above all, hold the catholic faith.” This means that non-catholics go to hell. The Athanasian Creed says nothing about voters assemblies. The Athanasian Creed refers to the “catholic religion” and that “this is the catholic faith; whoever does not believe it faithfully and firmly cannot be saved.” Letters to Pastor Athanasius were returned to GN unopened. The Roman Catholic Church - which denies the doctrine of justification, believes the pope to be the head of the church by divine right, and endorses funny hyper-euro hats, also approvingly confesses the Athanasian Creed. President Matthew Harrison, who supports the use of Lutheran Service Book (LSB), has a mustache. Hitler and Stalin had mustaches. Many of the liberals who walked out of seminex had mustaches and long sideburns. C.F.W. Walther and Francis Pieper were clean shaven. Harrison is accused by some of not believing that congregations matter, that he, like Adolph Hitler, believe in centralizing his power. Letters asking why President Harrison continues to wear a mustache have not been answered as of this publication. Pastor John Brentz, Minister of Hall, signed one of the documents in the ELCA-approved Book of Concord (the Treatise - which actually mentions “the Pope” in its official title - the Pope is the head of the Roman Catholic Church, which denies biblical inerrancy, the doctrine of justification, and does not celebrate Reformation Day) refers to the Lutheran Church as “the true and genuine catholic Church” and desribes Pastor Bugenhagen as “revered Father” (see below). Neither Brentz nor Bugenhagen have responded to GN's requests for an explanation.   Call No Man Father The Book of Concord contains unbiblical language for pastors. Jesus said, “Don't you be callin' anyone yo' daddy, y'all” (Matthew 23:9, ACT - A Confederate Translation). But the hyper-euro sacerdotalist Romanizers in the Book of Concord do not follow the words of Jesus. Pastor John Brentz called Pastor Johannes Bugenhagen “Father” (see above). Pastor Brixius Northanus of Christ Lutheran Church - Soest referred to “the Reverend Father Martin Luther” in his signature to the Smalcald Articles. The authors of the Formula of Concord (Pastor Jake Andrae, Pastor Marty Chemnitz, Pastor Dave Chytraeus, Pastor Nick Selnecker, and Pastor Andy Musculus) referred to Pastor Luther as one of “our dear fathers and predecessors.” Letters to Brentz, Bugenhagen, Luther, Northanus, Andrae, Chemnitz, Chytraeus, Selnecker, and Musculus have not been acknowledged or replied to by the time of publication.   Sacerdotalism The word “priest” is used in the Book of Concord to refer to pastors more than a hundred times. The Latin word for “priest” is “sacerdos.” This is about double the amount of times the word “pastor” is used by the authors of the Book of Concord to refer to pastors. The Latin word for “pastor” is “pastor.” Often, especially in the Augsburg Confession and Apology, the expression “our priests” is used to refer to Lutheran ministers. Calls to Mister Melanchthon's office at Wittenberg University were not returned.   Ordination as a Sacrament Professor Melanchthon's Apology (which is misleading, because he never says that he is sorry) includes other instances of sacerdotalism consistent with the hyper-euros when he calls ordination a sacrament: (“neither will we refuse to call the imposition of hands a sacrament”). Melanchthon also allows for marriage to be called a sacrament. The Roman Catholic Church, which denies the doctrine of justification and biblical inerrancy, as well as cheers for Notre Dame, likewise considers ordination and marriage to be sacraments. As of this publication, Professor Melanchthon has not written to GN to respond to our simple questions.   Mass The Church Service is called “Mass” by sacerdotalists, Romanizers, and Hyper-Euros. The Augsburg Confession and the Apology both have an entire article (24) called “The Mass.” Melanchthon (see above) writes, “We have not abolished the Mass.” Roman Catholics use the term Mass. Roman Catholics deny the Doctrine of Justification, worship Mary, and often do not have red doors on their churches. Letters to both Melanchthon and the Pope in Rome seeking an explanation have not been answered. Science professors in the Concordia University System often refer to how much something weighs as “Mass.” Calls to Dr. Dean Wenthe and Dr. Daniel Gard, both formerly linked to CUS - both of whom have connections to Notre Dame University - have not been answered as of this writing.   Hyper Euro Polity Instead of the biblical practice of having supreme voters' assemblies, the Book of Concord advocates a hyper-euro system of bishops. Professor Melanchthon writes in the Apology (Article 14), “it is our greatest wish to maintain church-polity and the grades in the Church [old church regulations and the government of bishops]” and “we will gladly maintain ecclesiastical and canonical government, provided the bishops only cease to rage against our churches.” The Roman Catholic Church, which denies the Doctrine of Justification, teaches the unbiblical doctrine of Purgatory, and provides pointy hats for bishops, also has hyper-euro polity. It should be noted that the Ku Klux Klan has pointy hats as well. Calls to the KKK seeking an explanation were not answered.   Approvingly Quoted The authors of the Book of Concord approvingly quote Bernard of Clairvaux and call him a “holy father” and a “saint.” Roman Catholic “Saints” Anthony, Dominic, and Francis are also called “holy fathers.” Pastor Clairvaux referred to Mary as a “shining and brilliant star” and that we should “call upon Mary” and that when we are troubled by sins to “think of Mary, call upon Mary…. invoking her.” The Matthew Harrison-approved LSB (which uses the English Standard Version as its biblical text) approvingly includes three hymns by Bernard of Clairvaux, and two by Thomas Aquinas (who taught Transubstantiation and engaged in philosophy). Pastor Augustine of Hippo (whom, GN has learned, never even owned a hippo), a Roman Catholic bishop, is quoted approvingly in the Book of Concord - even in Latin, which was the language used by the Roman Catholic Church in its services (the Roman Catholic Church cheers for Notre Dame and does not have voters assemblies). Pastor Augustine is referred to as a “holy father” and a “saint” in the Book of Concord. The Matthew Harrison-approved Lutheran Service Book has a day of “commemoration” for Augustine, “Pastor and Theologian,” as well as another day to honor Bernard of Clairvaux, “Hymnwriter and Theologian.” LSB also honors Hyper-Euro opponent of C.F.W. Walther, Wilhelm Loehe as well as various popes, including Gregory the Great (whom the Book of Concord quotes approvingly), Leo the Great (whom the Book of Concord also quotes approvingly), and Clement. Pope Gregory the Great and Hyper-Euro Wilhem Loehe both have a hymn each in the mustached-Harrison-approved LSB. Roman Catholic bishop Ambrose of Milan, who allowed himself to become a relic in a Catholic Church in Italy, is also approvingly quoted, has a “commemoration” in the Harrison-backed LSB, as well as three hymns. The Book of Concord often approvingly quotes Roman Catholic canon law (which is misleading, as canon law has nothing to do with large mounted guns or a competitor to Nikon, the Roman Catholic Church also denies the Doctrine of Justification, Anathematizes the Gospel, and sings awful hymns). The Book of Concord never approvingly quotes the Brief Statement, the bylaws of synod, or Roberts Rules of Order (revised). Letters to General Roberts were returned to GN unopened.   Luther is Not Lutheran! Pastor Martin Luther, author of three texts of the ELCA-approved Book of Concord, believed in “semper virgo,” the belief that Mary did not have other children (a belief shared by the Roman Catholic Church, which denies biblical inerrancy and does not cheer for any of the Concordia sports teams). Semper virgo is believed by the hyper euros today. Luther prayed a version of the Hail Mary prayer even after he became a Lutheran. Luther was baptized and ordained a priest in the Roman Catholic Church - and he was never called or installed to serve as a pastor by a proper voters' assembly. Luther advocated for “high church hyper euro” worship practices, such as genuflecting and elevating and making the sign of the cross. Luther believed that the bread and wine are the body and blood of Christ even if they were not consumed. Luther urged people to go to private confession and equated it with being a Christian. Luther called his German liturgy the “German Mass.” Luther never submitted a resolution to the LCMS convention.   Silent But Deadly The silence is deafening. Not a single author or defender of the Book of Concord has returned GN's calls, letters, emails, semaphores, texts, communications by radio, missives, epistles, unsavory implications, inquisitions, demands that they stop beating their wives, requests for high school year books, or simple questionnaires inquiring if they have renounced Communism, Matthew Harrison, and the heartbreak of Psoriasis. Note: This is satire. As much as I hate to have to say so, if I don't, Aunt Pitty will get “the vapors,” countless boomers will write to Fritz demanding that he fire me, millennial pastors will burn themselves on their soy lattes and send me nasty emails telling that their wives demand that I “be kind,” and even some of our loyal readers will miss the whole point. So here it is, boys and girls and purple penguins: this is a tongue-in-cheek homage to Christian News. And if you took the time to write without reading to the end, the joke's on you! Thank you, ~ The Management

If you want to be free, you're going to have to work at it. Here's some good news from the encrypted messaging platform Telegram about two new web apps that allow you to bypass big tech censorship. One of the great blessings of free market economics is that it encourages people to care for you without having to care about you. Art Carden has a very solid example of what this looks like and why we should be grateful. It's easy to get hung up on party labels when we should be more focused on the principles at stake. John Stossel has an excellent article about how society is richer and more accepting thanks to libertarian ideas. Our nation's growing economic concerns are being blamed on the coronavirus but that's a red herring. As Kent McManigal explains, so many of our economic woes can be traced back to specific government policies. He says government owes business a sincere apology. What does it look like when people stop asking permission and start reclaiming their rights? Here's a story out of Arizona where a school board abruptly canceled a scheduled meeting over removing its mask mandate and parents, under Roberts Rules of Order, voted them out and voted in a new board. This is what scares the political class to death--the realization that their limited power is given (and taken) only by the consent of the governed. Sponsors:  Monticello College Pure Light HSL Ammo Subscribe to the podcast  Support this program by becoming a Patron  

If you want to be free, you're going to have to work at it. Here's some good news from the encrypted messaging platform Telegram about two new web apps that allow you to bypass big tech censorship. One of the great blessings of free market economics is that it encourages people to care for you without having to care about you. Art Carden has a very solid example of what this looks like and why we should be grateful. It's easy to get hung up on party labels when we should be more focused on the principles at stake. John Stossel has an excellent article about how society is richer and more accepting thanks to libertarian ideas. Our nation's growing economic concerns are being blamed on the coronavirus but that's a red herring. As Kent McManigal explains, so many of our economic woes can be traced back to specific government policies. He says government owes business a sincere apology. What does it look like when people stop asking permission and start reclaiming their rights? Here's a story out of Arizona where a school board abruptly canceled a scheduled meeting over removing its mask mandate and parents, under Roberts Rules of Order, voted them out and voted in a new board. This is what scares the political class to death--the realization that their limited power is given (and taken) only by the consent of the governed. www.thebryanhydeshow.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/loving-liberty/support

On this 189th Episode of the Small Scale Life Podcast, I am talking homestead hunting, Roberts Rules, grounding and gardening with Letti Loo from the Liberty All Day Blog, Podcast and Vlog. Letti is a busy person! She is married and has a busy little boy, and along with her own platform, she is a co-host on the 80’s Mom Podcast and has her own virtual assistant company called Parli Pro Consulting as well. Like Julie and I, Letti and her family are escaping Chicago and returning to the land. They want to get back to a place and a life that makes sense. They want the liberty and freedom to become who they want to be, grow their own food, have some animals, build a community and do something simply magnificent in a beautiful place. They are on the path that so many urbanites and suburbanites are on right now: escaping the large cities, the rules and the chaos. The land rush is on, and prices are climbing and property is scarce. Homestead hunting has been really tough and intense because potential places are sold sight unseen and as-is for premium prices. Will Letti and her family find that oasis in the sea of confusion? I know they will! Remember, dear Letti, good things are coming. It will work out and you will get the right place for you. Keep your chin up as your keep homestead hunting. Speak it; claim it; believe it!

Lots of nonprofit boards use Robert's Rules to run their board meetings – but should they? Robert's Rules is a parliamentary procedure that's meant to keep things orderly and make it easier to make group decisions. But sometimes, the rules make things harder, not easier. Tune in to this episode to hear some listener questions about what to do when Robert's Rules go off the rails. Go to www.birkenlaw.com/board-survival to get a copy of my Nonprofit Board Meeting Survival Guide. Check out this resource from Guidestar about an alternative to Robert's Rules: https://trust.guidestar.org/going-for-consensus-not-roberts-rules. Join me on Facebook Subscribe to my newsletter

Good morning, RVA! It’s 26 °F, and today you can expect highs in the low 40s and some sunshine. Soak it in, because we’re under a Winter Storm Warning from 1:00 AM Thursday through 7:00 AM Friday. The National Weather Service at Wakefield says to expect a couple inches of snow followed by even more ice, and, yikes, “widespread power outages, significant tree damage, and difficult travel conditions.” Gather your supplies and loved ones and make sure all of your devices are charged!Water coolerAs of this morning, the Virginia Department of Health reports 1,770 new positive cases of the coronavirus in the Commonwealthand 21 new deaths as a result of the virus. VDH reports 251 new cases in and around Richmond (Chesterfield: 129, Henrico: 81, and Richmond: 41). Since this pandemic began, 722 people have died in the Richmond region. The number of new deaths reported each day has finally started to mirror the precipitous drop we’ve seen in cases over the last couple of weeks. The seven day average of new deaths, 19.9, fell below 20 for the first time since December 4th. Since that date, COVID-19 killed 2,877 people in Virginia. That’s shocking to me, and I had to triple-check my math to make sure it was right.In vaccine news, yesterday morning the Virginia Department of Health launched a statewide COVID-19 vaccine pre-registration form at vaccinate.virginia.gov. This replaces the interest forms you may have already filled out on your local health district website, and, if you already filled out one of those local interest forms, you do not need to fill out this new statewide form. In fact, you should have gotten an email last night (or maybe will get one shortly?) confirming that you’re in the system. You can also verify that you’re in the system by searching for yourself or a loved one by email or phone number on this page. One note: email search (at this moment) is case sensitive so pay attention if your browser autocapitalizes the first letter of your email address! I think, all things considered, the public rollout of this new form—at least from the technology side of things—went pretty well. Remember! This is NOT registering for a vaccine, this is getting in the system! Local health districts will then slice, dice, sort, and prioritize these massive lists of interested humans and work to get them all vaccinated as quickly as possible given the (extremely) limited supply of vaccine.So the technology parts went pretty OK, but from the accessibility side of things, Sabrina Moreno at the Richmond Times-Dispatch reports that VDH is still using Google Translate to provide a Spanish version of this new form: “Until about 11 a.m., three hours after the centralized portal allowing Virginians to add their names to a long waiting list went live, there was no Spanish translation…When a Spanish version of the form was added, it was powered by Google Translate and returned a decipherable but faulty product.” This is, to say the least, suboptimal: “On Tuesday, the registration system’s using Google Translate meant ‘your first name’ was translated to ‘nombre de pila.’ The term is rarely used on Spanish forms, and refers to the name given to children upon baptism, or on the ‘baptismal font.’” This should all sound super familiar, because literally one month ago, on January 17th, Moreno reported that VDH had used Google Translate on one of their vaccine FAQs and translated “the vaccine is not required” to “the vaccine is not necessary.”Governor Ralph Northam will hold a press conference today at 2:00 PM, presumably to officially announce the new vaccine pre-registration system and maybe the statewide call center that’s he’s mentioned a couple of times. Tune in over on VPM’s YouTube.Not a lot of details on this, but the RTD’s Kenya Hunter reports on Twittter that Richmond’s School Board met last night and unanimously passed the Superintendent’s proposed budget (3rd District’s Kenya Gibson was not present for the vote). You can download the full proposed FY21–22 budget here (PDF), if you want to flip through it. Additionally, the board discussed a proposed calendar for sort-of-year-round schooling (PDF). I haven’t had time to fully process it yet, but if you’ve already got thoughts you can fill out this survey if you’re a parent or a caregiver or this survey if you’re an RPS teacher or staff. One question I do have, that I’m sure someone out there knows the answer to, is: Are the additional cost for this new calendar included in the budget that the Board just passed?Wyatt Gordon at the Virginia Mercury has a piece about Virginia’s manufactured housing aka mobile homes or trailer homes. This quote from Jonathan Knopf, the ED of the Manufacture Home Community Coalition of Virginia, is fascinating: “[Manufactured homes] are the largest source of unsubsidized affordable housing in the country, but it’s the one that we know the least about.” I know I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about manufactured home communities, and that’s part of the problem, but these neighborhoods are often affordable places for folks to live. Plus they are naturally pretty dense—at least way denser than a couple single-family homes plopped down on the same acreage. Related, the RTD’s Michael Paul Williams has a column up about affordable housingthat includes this excellent quote from Laura Lafayette, the CEO of the Richmond Association of Realtors: “To be blunt, I think we need to have a long, hard, honest conversation about NIMBYism and the ability of neighbors to stop affordable housing developments in their tracks.”Today, City Councilmembers have the first day of their two-day virtual retreat. This is when they all get together and learn how the City Council works within Richmond’s…unique…government structure. I don’t know why it takes place this deep into the year, but I’m sure there’s a good reason. If you’re interested in what all they’ll learn, download this 168-page PDF packet that includes the City Charter, org charts, Roberts Rules of Order, and a pretty nitty-gritty look at how stuff gets done in Council. This is a good and useful PDF! Store it away for later reference.This morning’s patron longreadThe Hard-Partying, Rock-Obsessed Nurse at the Center of a Massive Opioid BustSubmitted by Patron Susan. I think my takeaway from this article is that people love their drug dealer.It doesn’t sound like much of a sell—a middle-aged man doling out medical advice in a city midway between Memphis and Nashville. But Young was eager to let the world know that he was no typical nurse practitioner. Throughout Jackson, he had created for himself a reputation as a rock-and-roll renegade, happily showing off his piercings, tattoos, and goatee. He blasted heavy metal at his private practice and filled his Instagram feed with photos of himself smoking cigars. In his frequent social-media updates, he would drink and flip off the camera. Though he was not an M.D., Young christened himself “the Rock Doc.”If you’d like your longread to show up here, go chip in a couple bucks on the ol’ Patreon.Picture of the DaySnowy housing!

It cannot be assumed at any level that people understand democratic process or know the particulars of proper meeting protocol. In this podcast we examine and describe these two elements based on Roberts Rules of Order (RRO).

PARENTS' RIGHTS IN EDUCATION MONTHSURPRISE! SURPRISE!When we announced Parents' Rights In Education Month a few weeks ago, we were not aware an Oregon County Board of Commissioners was taking it into consideration!PRIE extends a hearty "Thank you!" to the Yamhill County Board Of Commissioners for recognizing November, Parents' Rights In Education Month!We extend our appreciation to Commissioner Mary Starrett, VICE CHAIR for bringing the PROCLAMATION to the Agenda, and for  Casey Culla, Chair and Rick Olson for passing it!NOT for SCHOOL BOARDS ONLY!The Yamhill County Proclamation was a pleasant surprise as PRIE members approached many local school boards over the last two years. In 2019, after the first reading at a work session, one district heartily endorsed it, only to face attack from the local teachers union. See story below.Another Oregon district followed suit, only to change the verbiage significantly altering the meaning replacing "board" with "teachers."Twice, parents in Austin, Texas made attempts by presenting the Proclamation at public meetings.Recently, Ft. Worth ISD parents gathered 200 signatures on a petition calling for PRIE MONTH adoption. The Board administrator promised a board vote, which was recanted on the day of the meeting, claiming need for more community input.  No problem. We have all year to work on this!OREGON KANGAROO COURT Teachers' Union Applied Pressure to Rescind and ReplaceWe wonder about the Texas board's experience in relation to a similar experience with our OREGON group. In October, 2019 Molalla, Oregon School Board passed a Resolution declaring November, Parents' Partnership In Education Month, affirming "the constitutional right of parents to direct the education and upbringing of their children." At the following November 21 Work Session, after receiving pressure from the teachers union,  the Molalla School Board voted to Rescind the Resolution and replace it with one acceptable to the Oregon Education Association. The new RESOLUTION affirms parents' partnership with teachers, not their elected school board, and acknowledges anti-discrimination laws, not parents' rights.The OEA school representative pressured MOLALLA School Board to usurp PARENTS' RIGHTS!The replacement Resolution was not published for the public to review prior to the vote.  This statement was found at the bottom of the document written prior to the meeting:  "ADOPTED this 21st day of November, 2019." In other words, the board proclaimed victory before the vote.The board voted to rescind the previous Resolution and replace it in a single vote, without ANY opportunity for public comment.Anyone with minimal understanding of Roberts Rules knows neither of these actions are lawful proper procedure.ALL City, County, and Sate Boards are welcome to recognize Parents' Rights in Education, Month! Support the show (https://www.parentsrightsined.com/support-the-cause.html)

Quote “Someone struggled for your right to vote.  Use it.” Susan B. Anthony Welcome to the Sensory Strides podcast.  Observations of the world through activity, reading, listening, and everything else. 52 Hike Challenge – Join us!  There are free challenges and lots of swag you can buy. https://www.52hikechallenge.com/?rfsn=3543491.754f73&utm_source=refersion&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=3543491.754f73  #52hikechallenge2020 While we weren’t in person, 1200 plus Girl Scouts came together this weekend for our once every three years National Council Session.  Usually this is scheduled in conjunction with the National Convention, which is a giant party.  Our girls are integral to planning the event and often take center stage. The National Council Session is the business meeting portion.  This year there were six proposals up for discussion and vote.  We follow Roberts Rules or Order.  The council session immerses everyone in parliamentary procedure and is a great learning experience for everyone. Friday started at 5 and was schedule to go until 7:30.  I finally made it to bed about 11.  Saturday started at 11.  We were supposed to have two sessions, but it stretched into one long session with a shorter break.  We went until nearly 10.  Sunday we started at 10 and went until about 9, with a short mid afternoon break.  About 26 hours total. Running the voting virtually added new challenges to the process.  Tech issues were a part of the issue, but I think the bigger impact came from not being able to see what was happening on stage or having opportunities for short entertainment (like singing) during waiting times.  Some of my fellow delegates and I actually got to chat more than we would have in person using Discord, a platform I hadn’t used before. The votes themselves were interesting.  Sunday afternoon, after our break, started off with a bang.  After more than 20 hours into the process we ended up with two votes in a row split right down the middle.  One had only one vote difference and the other had two vote separation.  We kept at it and were successful getting all of the work done! Next week is an important election for our country.  Please make sure to get out by Tuesday and vote.  My ballot went in last week! Thanks for joining me.  Be sure to check our show notes for links to inspiration items and …  don't forget to stop and smell the roses. Find us on Social Media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/sherylmrobinson/ Twitter @sherylmrobinson Instagram @sherylmrobinson

Darren explains basic parliamentary procedures regarding how organizations may govern meetings and decision making, such as following Roberts Rules of Order. He speaks about how the Chairperson or President of the organization may wield a lot of power, depending on the organization's bylaws and what is allowed. Darren compares these basics to how the US Senate governs its operations and decision making. And finally how the Democrats in 2013 got around their own rules that require at least 60 senators to approve new judges, by using a quirk in their procedures which is now dubbed as the "Nuclear Option". This quirk in procedures allowed them to change their own rules to only require a simple majority senate vote, to appoint federal judges, rather than the typical 60+ votes required for legislation votes. The Democrats excluded votes for Supreme Court Justices. However in April 2017, the Republicans were now in power and they used the same Nuclear Option to get around standard votes, and they expanded on the Democrats then new rule for federal judges, but now Supreme Court justices could be appointed by a simple majority vote. And with Republicans in power, they are now able to appoint a conservative majority to the US Supreme Court. Trump has been able to appoint 25% of the federal judges now on the bench throughout the nation, all of whom are conservative judges who can influence laws and decisions/rulings for a lifetime.

As I sat there in a massive banquet hall and listened to the shouts of angry delegates,  interrupted only by the sounds of Roberts Rules of Order citations and the occasional conducting of actual business,.... all I could think was... "Who the hell would want that job?" Today's episode is my conversation with former National Libertarian Party Chairman, Nicholas Sarwark. Love him or hate him, you definitely gotta hand it to him for being able to wrangle the bag of cats that is the Libertarian Party, for 6 years consecutive years.  We touched on everything from his upbringing in politics, to Jo Jorgensen's chances at the White House, to what the CIA pays their spies.... All that and so much more on today's episode of The System is Down episode #183: How to Wrangle Cats and Make a Bunch of Friends w. Nicholas Sarwark (Former LP Chair) Nicholas Sarwark: http://sarwark.org #votegold #jo20 Question Everything. Stay Uncomfortable. Let’s get weird! #thesystemisdown #youarethepress #youarethepower  The Moon The Myth The Legend: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-moon-the-myth-the-legend#/  TSID Forum: http://tsidpod.com/forum  The System is Down: http://tsidpod.com  The Downers Club: http://patreon.com/thesystemisdown  AntiNews: http://antinewslive.com  QAnon Chronicles: http://qanonchronicles.com  Buy Some SWAG: http://tsidpod.com/shop  Facebook: http://facebook.com/thesystemisdown  Twitter: http://twitter.com/tsidpod

Have social media flame wars spread to the chambers of government?There's a huge debate going on about public borrowing and spending to fight sea level rise in one of Miami's wealthiest barrier islands. But people aren't being civil about it.Is too much testosterone to blame?In this episode we talk about the continuing verbal battles that occur during public meetings. Why can't people who are serving as volunteers because they love their communities behave themselves? (Aired live on WSQF Blink Radio Key Biscayne 94.5 FM, Aug. 1 2020)Support the show (https://kbindependent.networkforgood.com/projects/118797-quality-journalism-for-key-biscayne)

We are extremely excited about this episode as it’s our 1st ever guest on #MarriageCaviar! On this installment, we dig into successful co-parenting, dating in 2020, not losing your identity after becoming a parent, and somehow- how Deltas and Bloods are interrelated. Join us on this hilariously authentic conversation with our guest Jabari, and as always check us out on Instagram @MarriageCaviar & our guest @Bugginout_dtrt. --- This episode is sponsored by · Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew: Former Olympic Gymnast Shawn Johnson and NFL player Andrew East sit down to share their most vulnerable sides and open up like they never have before. https://open.spotify.com/show/7aGLm9HYn9mEyVr1FDzrpa?si=bgb4jh_nTyGiIabdk8BD8g · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/marriagecaviar/support

Jess and Meghan are joined again by Jim Hall to answer another round of nonprofit questions taken from the hallowed halls of Reddit. Is it illegal to break Roberts Rules at a board meeting? Is there a secret way to start a new nonprofit - without all the annual reporting? Can you stop someone from copying your nonprofit idea? Listen in to find out! Join me on Facebook Subscribe to my newsletter

Join Jim and Greg as they applaud South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott for a pragmatic approach to police reform and for rightly hammering the Democratic characterization of his legislation as a "token" approach. They also rip Chief Justice John Roberts for siding with the four liberal justices in blocking the Trump administration's effort to end DACA, which was unconstitutionally created in the first place.  And they wade into the ugly back and forth between President Trump and former National Security Adviser John Bolton over Bolton's scathing new book.

Within any human system, there is a structure of power and responsibility. In some cases, that structure is well-defined and ordered like a community organization with by-laws run by Robert's Rules of Order. Companies have organizational charts to define who answers to whom. My observation is that the more intimate and small the system, the more difficult things can get.

Audio of the April 6 Orland Park Village Board meeting that appeared to be edited S2 Ep5 Thursday April 9, 2020 (UPDATE -- The Village of Orland Park has restored the files since the column, podcast and FOIA were published and they claimed the file was not edited or deleted or replaced by the village.) On Monday, April 6, 2020, the Orland Park Village Board held a Committee of the Whole meeting that began at 6:30 pm to review a proposal by Trustee Dan Calandriello urging the village administration to help local businesses that were suffering because of the coronavirus COVID-19 pandemic. The meeting lasted about 18 minutes, and was followed by the Village Board meeting at 7 PM. Both meetings were conducted by teleconference, per the direction of Gov. Pritzker and both meetings were recorded by the Village of Orland Park as per the requirements of State Law. The full unedited Audio files were placed on the Village website Tuesday morning. I wrote a column on Monday night criticizing Mayor Pekau for his harsh, personal and vicious attacks he made during the meeting against Calandriello. I also challenged his inept handling of the meeting which violated the fundamental basics of Roberts Rules of Order, something he did on purpose to prevent Calandriello from responding to his vicious personal attacks. The column, posted here at SuburbanChicagoland.com, included a link to the Village Audio File of the Committee of the Whole meeting on the Village website, which was complete from start to finish. An angry Pekau, in his political newsletter on Wednesday, April 8, criticized Calandriello again and also criticized me accusing me of making up the content of the column calling it "highly fictional." Of course, the column quoted Pekau and Calandriello precisely and was transcribed from the audio file. But, apparently to justify his false assertion that my column was "highly fictionalized," the Pekau administration removed the audio file apparently so no one could hear what he said. The audio files of the Committee of the Whole and the Village Board meeting were working perfectly on Tuesday and on Wednesday but appeared to be altered late Wednesday night and Thursday morning. In their place were corrupted files that only played in repetitive cycle, the first 20 to 60 seconds of each of the meetings. The bottom line was that a record of Pekau's harsh attack against Calandriello suddenly disappeared This is NOT the first Time Mayor Keith "Watergate" Pekau has done this. The audio files of his last outburst during attacking Hope Covenant Church for hosting a one-day per week homeless shelter also mysteriously vanished from the Village website.

In this episode we share a couple of articles about the typical stated meeting along with my own thoughts on the same topic. Midnight Freemasons article: http://www.midnightfreemasons.org/2015/06/how-to-run-stated-meeting.html Robert's Rules of Order: http://www.roberts-rules.com/parl07.htm --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sslodge357/support

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Chris is back, and we spend an hour talking about bad campaign domain names (but campaigns are catching on), the upcoming CCRCC meeting and the various resolutions coming up, Chris' desire to have a Jesus and the money changers moment with fake Trump merchandise, an NRCC election recap, and more. We also dig into Rob's whiskey bar and sample some great Rye whiskey.

In this episode of CAM Matters, Betsy Barbieux explains the difference between the annual owners meeting and the more frequent board of directors meetings. She also clears up the misconception that board meetings are the place where owners can file complaints and expect the board to act on them.   TRANSCRIPT   Betsy- Hi, I'm Betsy, with "CAM Matters", and today, we will be talking about meetings. I am sure that you have heard some wild tales about meetings, and I'm gonna help you understand the difference between the owners meeting and the board meeting, and what they're really for, stay tuned. Narrator - Welcome to "CAM Matters", condos, co-ops, HOAs, and beyond. Betsy Barbieux is an information leader in Florida on community association living, rights and obligations. She is an expert on the rights and obligations of owners as well as the association. If you live or are planning to live in the state of Florida, there's a good chance you'll be part of a community association. And by the end of this show, you'll know a little bit more about community associations and why they matter. Suzanne - Hello, I'm Suzanne Lynn with Betsy Barbieux and it's another episode of "CAM Matters". And Betsy today we're talking about, well, some people might say is not that exciting, but when you're talking about community associated living meetings-- Suzanne - Meetings is exciting. Betsy- They can be pretty exciting. Suzanne - Yeah, you know, if-- Suzanne - Where do we dive in to meetings? Betsy- Well, let's start with first that there are two kinds. Suzanne - Okay. Betsy- Okay, let's start there. Suzanne - Not good and bad? Betsy- No, not good kind, bad kind, we'll go there later, we'll go there later, what not to do. But let's talk about our communities are corporations, we've learned that in previous shows that these are corporations, and corporations have groups of people who need to meet. Two other groups that need to meet are the owners, and you can call them members, membership owners. Some of your documents, these papers, will call the owners the voting interests. I don't know why that happens. But I'm probably just gonna switch back and forth between owners and members. So, the owners have their meeting, and that is one time a year. Their bylaws will require them to have an annual meeting, and they will do some things there at that annual meeting, one of which will be to elect their board of directors, their new leadership if they choose to. The other thing they will do is vote on amendments to their documents, if there are any. They may vote on some financial matters where they are moving money among reserve accounts, and that can be again, something else we can talk about later and this is the financial part. But basically, the owners meeting is for elections and voting on amendments. Those are the only things really that owners do. They don't get involved in the daily maintenance and operations of the association. And any kind of violation complaints or maintenance complaints that they have should be directed and addressed someplace else, the annual meeting is not where those are addressed. But this is where we see some of those meetings devolve into complaint sessions and-- - 'Cause they get 'em once a year, and I've got you here for this year. Betsy- And a lot of communities have managers, and those complaints and concerns need to go through management, they're not addressed at the owners meeting. There's nothing that can be done about it at the owners meeting. So, there's no real point in griping and complaining. So, hopefully the owners meet one time a year. The other group that meets is the board of directors. And the board of directors will meet based on whatever their frequency needs are. Some meet monthly, others will meet quarterly, some meet semiannually. If you have a really small community with no amenities, and very compliant owners, then you might not have a lot of need for monthly meetings. Suzanne - Sure. Betsy- In our Florida Statutes, owners are allowed to attend the board meetings, but the board meetings are not for them. And this is a huge misunderstanding. Suzanne - Why is that important? Betsy- Well, it's important because this is a multimillion dollar corporation, and the board is having its meetings to run a multimillion dollar corporation. So, they're making decisions on policies and procedures and violations, dealing with contracts, dealing with vendors and making sure that things are maintained. It's not an informational meeting for the owners, and that tends to be what they devolve into. Suzanne - Power? Betsy- Mm-hmm. Suzanne - Mm-hmm. Betsy- And I'm not saying that we don't want to give information to the owners. There are other venues newsletters, websites, weekly, monthly coffees at the clubhouse, there's plenty of other opportunity to give owners information, but the board meeting is not where it's supposed to be. Suzanne - I gotcha. Betsy- And part of the reason, and this is gonna upset people, so, I'll just go on and tell people and forget the time that they're gonna be upset. Suzanne - It just is get it out of the way. Betsy- Get it out here. At the board meeting, the board should not ever sit in a panel style. When they sit in a panel style, and the owners who are attending sit there, it looks like the board's talking to them. Suzanne - Right, like they're being served. Betsy- Right. Betsy- And they're answering to them. Betsy- And it looks like the dialogue is this way. Now, where our boards differ from other kinds of boards. Our boards cannot talk to each other about association business, unless it's what we call an open meeting, open to the owners. They cannot make any secret decisions and secret votes and things like that, everything is done in an open manner. That means then, that the only time the board can talk about its business is when it's together at these board meetings. If you're sitting in a panel style, Suzanne, you cannot do business with people whose eyeballs you cannot say. If I'm in the middle of this panel, I'm gonna have to stand up, lean over and go, hey. You know. Suzanne - You're connected to the wrong audience. Betsy- Exactly, so I'm going to encourage boards to pull those tables around. You know, how does corporate America sit? At board table. Suzanne - Sure. Betsy- They sit with their eyeballs facing each other. So, I want boards sitting so that they can see each other's eyeballs. Suzanne - That would be kinda like having, when you talk about corporations almost having it set up to where they're facing their employees? That's just not, and when you think of it that way, it's not right. Betsy- No, and it's not an informational meeting, it is to do business. So, these meetings shouldn't be more than an hour, hour and a half long, they should not devolve into three and four hour meetings. If that continues to happen, how are you ever gonna get board members to volunteer to be on the board? Suzanne - Right, when you say devolve, what are some of the biggest, most normal topics that get brought up that-- Betsy- I tell you. Suzanne - Cause a meeting to go? Betsy - When owners come to the meeting, and they are allowed to hijack it. Suzanne - Okay, that's the problem. Betsy- Because the board doesn't know. See, this goes back to what we talked about in an earlier episode, that the board serves the documents, it serves the statutes. It's not a representative form of government, so having all of the owners make these unsolicited comments, drags the board and pulls it in all sorts of different direction. When the board can stay on topic, then business will be conducted. Our Florida Statutes require the boards to produce an agenda of the things that they're gonna talk about. The only things that can be addressed at that board meeting are the things on the agenda. Suzanne - So, if you get an owner and they're shouting, ignore it. Betsy - They can't be addressed anyway, because it's not on the agenda. Suzanne - Okay. Betsy - And it sounds really bad, but this meeting is not for the owners, it's for the board. Suzanne - It's not about you. Right. Betsy- And if I may, let me kind of step back and say that the board of directors has a fiduciary duty to the owners. And what that means on kind of a practical level, why that matters, is fiduciary would be similar to your financial planner. Your financial planner is handling your assets. So, the board of directors is handling the assets of owners, our homes, homes, that's probably the biggest asset a lot of people have. Suzanne - Absolutely. Betsy- Your financial planner would never make decisions about your assets without you knowing about it. Suzanne - They better not. Betsy- Without you knowing about it. Suzanne - They better not. Betsy- In that similar way, then the board of directors cannot make decisions about our assets, without the owners having an opportunity to be there and listen. They don't have input, except on agenda items. So, there are no new things that can be brought up at a board meeting, unless it's on the agenda because of that fiduciary duty. Owners get to know 48 hours in advance, everything, every topic that the board is going to talk about. So, when an owner is allowed to make a comment that has nothing to do with an item on the agenda, that's when they start to devolve. And I'll tell you what those comments are on. Suzanne - What's them? Betsy- Maintenance, complaints and violation complaints. Suzanne - All the time. Betsy- Neither of which can be addressed at the board meeting. Neither of which can be addressed at the board meeting. It's not on the agenda. And that's a management issue, violations and maintenance, that's management issues, so those should be directed to your manager, or to the board member who is the point person for violations and maintenance. Suzanne - All right, well, let's dig deeper into this. We're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about Robert's Rules of Order. Betsy- Oh, okay . Suzanne - You're ready to talk about them? Betsy- All right. Suzanne - All right, we'll be right back. Suzanne - Okay, so let's dive into Robert's Rules of Order. I don't even know what that means, I had to look at my notes, what is that? Betsy- It is a system of parliamentary procedures, and where does the word parliamentary come from? Suzanne - England. Betsy- England, okay. It was written by General Henry Martyn Robert, in 1876. He's a Huguenot descendant which is British English, so it kinda reads like the King James Bible. Suzanne - Oh, my gosh, okay. Betsy- It's a lot, it's a lot. This book is usually referred to in the documents as the way the meetings are conducted. Often in your bylaws, it will say that your meetings are conducted based on the latest edition of Robert's Rules of Order. Quite frankly, I don't remember not knowing about Robert's Rules of Order. Suzanne - Really? Betsy- We used these procedures in high school in our clubs. Suzanne - Huh! Betsy- So, I don't really remember not knowing about it, but-- Betsy- I haven't been in a lot of clubs apparently. Or I've broken a lot of rules, I don't know. Suzanne - I just-- Suzanne - Interesting. Suzanne - Just have a knowledge of them that I sense goes back to high school. Suzanne - Can I just randomly open it and see what-- Betsy- Sure. Suzanne - Let's see what exciting information I find? Betsy- Oh, go over to this page. Suzanne - Go to that one? Okay, this last one? Okay. Betsy- Yeah, that one. Suzanne - "In a board meeting where there are not more "than about a dozen members present some of the formality "that is necessary in a large assembly "would hinder businesses." Betsy- Oh, stop right there! Suzanne - Okay, . Betsy- That is excellent! Suzanne - Was that a good one? Betsy- Yes, yes, we didn't even plan that, that was good. Know what she just said right there was-- Betsy- What she just said, is that this book is overkill for our board meetings is what you just said in plain English. Suzanne - Okay, I feel so smart.   Betsy- This book is overkill. And there are exceptions for the formalities that City Council county commissioners use, there are exceptions to those formalities for our boards. And small boards are considered 12 or fewer, which mostly our boards are. And it allows for informal conversation before a motion is made. And in in our communities, because our boards can't talk to each other before the meeting about issues, then you can't come with a prepared motion like you could at City Council. Suzanne - Oh, I see, I see. Betsy- So, they don't know that they might need to take action on something until they actually get to the meeting. So, it allows informal conversation. It allows the chair, the president, to speak and make motions. And our Florida Statutes require that a vote be recorded for every board member president, every board member present, which means the president does vote. And that is a misunderstanding that we have in a lot of our boards. They think that the president does not vote, which is a common practice in Robert's Rules of Order. But we have to weave the statute in that says there has to be a vote recorded of every board member present. Betsy- So, I'm just gonna throw this as open. Is there ever a conflict between Robert's Rules, and what happens at a, or do they always just mesh, does one override if there's a? Betsy- They should mesh, except that there is usually one person in your community who knows this book, backwards and forwards. And they will use some obscure motion, or yell something from out there and-- Betsy- They're my favorite. Betsy- And it confounds and confuses the board president and what I try to spend a lot of time on in my other CAM classes, is teaching managers what to do to bail a board president out, because our job is to make the board president look good. Suzanne - Sure, sure, and stay strong, yeah. So, one of the things that really stands out to me, 'cause we're starting to wrap up the show, the seating of a board meeting that just makes so much sense, you're not serving the people. Betsy- The seating of the board is critical. You cannot do business with people whose eyeballs you cannot see. This is not an informational meeting for the owners, so the board needs to sit facing themselves. I didn't mention I don't think, the seating in the owners meeting. And this is gonna upset people, but the seating at the owners meeting there is no board. The board of directors does not sit up front. The board of directors has no collective authority at an owners meeting. Suzanne - Wow! Betsy- Board members are owners and they just need to go sit wherever. The chair is the president. The president is the president of the corporation, not just the president of the board. So, the president of the corporation will chair the owners meeting, the president of the corporation will chair the board meeting. Suzanne - Oh, no kidding. Betsy- But the head of the room for the owners meeting is likely wherever the chair chooses to stand. Have a lectern stand behind it. If secretary wants to give a report, he or she can come up, give a report, go sit back down, treasurer can come up, give a report, go sit back down. Suzanne - Lot less formal, yeah.   Betsy- There's no board at an owners meeting. So there's no reason to sit together. Suzanne - Wow, there is a lot to know. I feel like we're just scratching the surface. And I mean, if I can just put a little plug in for you, if you live in Florida, you need to reach out to Betsy because I'm pretty sure she has this whole thing memorized. No, pretty close, and well you know a lot of stuff. Betsy- Just the procedures for small boards. Suzanne - Well, thank you so much seriously. And be sure to subscribe, because there's a whole lot of more episodes that are coming out, we don't want you to miss anything that's already happened. And most importantly, we want you to know why CAM matters. Betsy- Thank you Suzanne. Suzanne - Yeah, thank you. Narrator - Thank you for listening to "CAM Matters". Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any future episodes. For more information, feel free to email Betsy at betsy@floridacamschools.com or visit the Florida CAM School's website at www.floridacamschools.com. Information provided on this show is general in nature and does not constitute legal advice. Please contact a licensed attorney for your specific situation.

Kristopher H. Bilbrey welcomes Special Guest: Ryan E. Reese to discuss "parliamentary procedures" during local town/city/county government meetings! We discuss the issues that were cause for concern at the Muncie City Council meeting on 08.05.19 (there were plenty of issues)! Tune in to catch this VERY important and informative episode! Ryan E. Reese can be reached at ryy.elaine.1998@gmail.com Robert's Rules (Cheat Sheet): http://diphi.web.unc.edu/files/2012/02/MSG-ROBERTSRULESCHEAT_SHEET.pdf The City of Muncie's Facebook page with Ryan's comment in the "Public Comments" section: https://www.facebook.com/City-of-Muncie-159050304195181/ For further examples of "parliamentary procedure" issues at the Muncie, Indiana City Council Meeting 08.05.19: (Part 1) https://www.facebook.com/159050304195181/videos/509778636457568/ (Part 2) https://www.facebook.com/159050304195181/videos/726542307807170 (Another version of Part 2) https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10212246822360358&id=1671822484 (Part 3) https://www.facebook.com/159050304195181/videos/483981575505087/ Perception IS Reality w/Kristopher H. Bilbrey 08.10.19 (Produced by: The Vulgar Poets) Special Guest: Ryan E. Reese.

Lawrence Taylor is an expert parliamentarian and DNC member from 2013 to 2016. He served on the Rules Committee for the 2016 Democratic National Convention, as a Delegate to the 2012 and 2016 Conventions, and presided over the 2016 Delegate Selection Convention, 2nd Congressional District.He currently serves as a delegate in the Dempcratic Party of Oregon. Taylor has created educational materials on Roberts Rules et al to help progressive delegates navigate a complicated system.You can learn more here See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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It was a wild night at Surrey Council last night with the Mayor threatening to remove Councillor Stephen Pettigrew from the council chamber. First councillor Pettigrew tried to get Mayor McCallum to clarify - was he following Roberts Rules or Order or was he following the City of Surrey's Procedural Bylaw? Then Pettigrew tried to bring several 'notice of motions' forward but didn't get anywhere.  Global News reporter Janet Brown caught up with the Mayor in the parkade of City Hall afterwards, when Doug McCallum scurried from the council chamber after the fracas. Guest: Janet Brown Global News Senior Reporter

  This episode features, Randall Bennett, TSBA Deputy Executive Director & General Counsel as he discusses the importance of Robert's Rules of order and how it is used to conduct School Board Meetings. https://tsba.net/policy/parliamentary-procedure/ http://www.orgsites.com/tn/tennesseeparliamentarians/_pgg9.php3 Recommended Books: The Complete Idiot's Guide to Robert's Rules; Robert's Rules for Dummies

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Mike introduces George Reis, Orange County Libertarian Party Secretary and founder of the HB Liberty Club in Huntington Beach, California. Mike reveals that he is friends with George. They work together at the HB Liberty Club. Mike describes an email George sent to the core group from HB Liberty Club and the LPOC. The email discussed what we can learn from best practices for building a business and how to take that and build a viable party. George explains he started listening to business-based podcasts. He wanted to learn from them and apply the ideas to his business. He also wondered if they could apply those ideas to Libertarian Party activism. Mike discusses his visit to the state executive committee meeting and that they were so focused on Robert's Rules of Order that they missed the point. George discusses the book “No Fail Meetings” by Michael Hyatt. Mike discusses how most people don't grasp that being prepared ahead of time helps a meeting go smoothly. George points out there must always be a goal attached. Mike relays his experience as a CTO with a delivery service. He discusses management without authority. He likens it to handling volunteers. George says that empowering volunteers is the key. He mentions the Ritz Carlton's policy about customer care. George explains how in a volunteer organization, everyone is autonomous, but they are not given details about how they can use that autonomy. Mike relates to George a time when he was a retail manager and he would empower his employees to handle customer complaints. He says that clarity is the key to empowerment. Mike announces he is running for At Large with the California Libertarian Party and he is running to help with candidate support. George wants to see the party become more goal oriented. Mike explains he feels religion and politics are very similar subjects. George says we need to increase our registration to become a choice when people vote. He says we need to give people a reason to join the party. We need to learn to “close the sale”. The party needs to be the guide to the voter. George says we need good candidates. Mike discusses the issue of passion. He explains how he has been recruiting people for City Council in 2020. George mentions the Los Angeles Libertarian Party and how they built up interest in their group. Mike says they need to be flexible about the direction things go. He uses the example of the HB Liberty Club to prove the point. George says that if you want to build you must delegate. Mike makes a plea to the youth to come out and volunteer. George agrees. George mentions the Fullerton Libertarian Club. It can be found on the Orange County Libertarian Party website.

There will come a time, probably sooner than later, that you will need to make a change. You will need to change something at your church. Over the next few episodes, we will look at how you can lead your church through change. The principles I will cover apply to big changes as well as small. Obviously, changing your worship music is a bigger change than changing your carpet color. But the steps are the same. Now, Over the past 12 years, I have taken the church I pastor through several changes. And I foresee more changes in the immediate future. I’m not going to tell you what I need to change but I will share this fact – I believe everything but one thing is open to change Listen to 1 Timothy 3:15b “the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth.” I understand those words this way. The local church is the protector, the fortress of the truth, of the Gospel. The gospel never changes. The truth found in God’s word never changes. And the local church is called upon to protect that truth in its local context. So the truth cannot be changed. But anything else is open to change. Now let’s get into it. Today, I want to give you an overview of what change looks like and in the weeks to come, I will go into greater detail on the steps. Dr. William Bridges has written extensively about change – personal and as an organization. If you are going to take your church through change you need to at least read his book, Managing Transitions. I will have a link to this book in the show notes. Dr. Bridges has identified three phases of transition or change. Dr. Bridges uses the term transition. For him, change and transition are not the same. But I will use change and transition interchangeably. So the three phases of transition are as follows The first phase is the ending. All change, all transitions begin with an ending. The second phase is what Dr. Bridges calls the neutral zone. And the final phase is the New Beginning. So let’s understand this. A transition begins with an ending This is essential. All of us have made the mistake, maybe in front of the congregation or before the church board. We have shared the possibility of the new beginning before we have shared the necessity of the ending. And when we did that we suffered the consequences. And possibly the new beginning never happened because the people did not see the need for it. So the first thing you need to do is take your people through the ending. This is a painful period. This is the hard part. This, in my opinion, takes the most time. There is a church in my local area that has a great young pastor. He was recently hired on. He is taking this established church through a radical change. And his first step? Teaching and preaching on why the current situation must end. He is helping his people let go. He is helping his people deal with the loss associated with this change. I don’t know the numbers, but I suspect some people will leave. The pain of loss will be too much for them. But most will stay, especially if he continues to help them end the current methods. Dr. Bridges teaches that a neutral zone follows this ending. It is during the neutral zone that the future is planned, teams are built, new patterns and new ways of doing business are created. One caution, I believe many of good transition can die in the neutral zone. I have led my congregation into the neutral zone, I assumed we had reached the promised land. The change then ceased and in time we just reset back to the old way of doing business. Do no make that mistake that the neutral zone is the finished product. You must know the ultimate destination and you must push through this temptation to stop. I don’t know if you are into old books. The journey Dr. Bridges has mapped out reminds me of Homer’s Odyssey. If you remember, Odysseus is trying to get home after the Trojan war. What should have been a 10-day trip ended up taking 10 years. And all along the way, there were good reasons to stop and not finish the journey. If you are going to take your church through major change you need to start with the ending and use the great gift of the neutral zone for development, but you cannot stop there. You must keep the finish in sight. Before we begin to end things, what should we first do? Before we end anything we must ask and answer two questions. Before I get to the questions let me share my situation. The church I pastor has a church board. The board is made up of the deacons and elders. We meet once per month and make the decisions for the church. We examine the financial reports.  We follow Roberts Rules of order, - we do old business, new business. This group of men is the group I must first sell on any church change. It is these men that will support me or not. I can be the upfront person leading the change if I have their support.  So change begins with them. Your situation might be different. You may answer to no one, or answer to a congregation, or a board. It doesn’t matter. You still ask and answer these two questions. Question number one: What must never change? If you answer to a board or a congregation, ask them this question and listen closely to their answers. I said earlier, that I feel the only thing that can never change is the Gospel, the truth. But that’s too simple. There are some things that are unique to every church that may find themselves on the do not change list. You need to note these. These are potential landmines. Every answer that comes your way, record it, acknowledge it. But in the end, you do not have to live with it. You might be rocking that 1970’s gold carpet in the auditorium. And when you ask, What must never change, there will be someone who says, “The Carpet.” Write it down. Note it. But you do not need to live with that carpet for the next 10 years. You can change it. That’s what leadership is all about and that is why you must take them through the painful process of letting go or ending. Here’s a better example. What if someone says, “Our music must never change.” And it is music you feel must change? What are you going to do? Your church is traditional in its music and you feel it must change to contemporary. What should you do? If that is a change you are willing to make, you can throw out the organ this week and put the drums up next week. And of course, suffer the consequences. Or you can acknowledge their input and begin to take them through the process of change that begins with understanding that this to must end. But that is the first question, “What must never change?” The second question is this. What must we change? You might want to reword this question. The word “change” frightens people. Change makes them nervous. Here’s the rewrite. What must we do to improve? That’s softer. It is not as confrontational. Again, write everything down, even if you disagree with it. Then prioritize the list, and if you are working with a group begin to debate the answers. There will be items on the list that everyone can agree with. I would begin with these. Now let’s wind this up. In the weeks to come, I will go into greater detail on this subject, how to lead change. But today, remember we learned that all change or transitions begin with an ending, there is a neutral zone, and then the final phase is the new beginning. Do not jump to the new beginning until you have helped them deal with the ending. Before all that, ask and answer two questions: What must never change? And What must we change? Or What must we do to improve? I hope this helps. This is Mark Jones and you have been listening to Coaching Christian Leaders. Please share this episode with your friends and fellow pastors. Also, don’t forget to subscribe. You can do so on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, or any podcast player. If you are interested in one on one coaching please contact me. I can be reached at Mark@coachingchristianleaders.com Resource Mentioned Managing Transitions by Dr. William Bridges and Dr. Susan Bridges Closing Thoughts If you are a Christian leader in need of direction or motivation, I would love to help. I coach leaders, especially small-church pastors. I also provide free six-session masterminds for pastors and missionaries. If you are interested in any of the above, email me.

Once again the fellas are back doing what they do best...producing podcast gold. Justin got a great report back from his doctor. Martin is waging war on Roberts Rules of Order. And their good friend Leon is trying to pull a fast one over on Justin. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.  Don't forget to share the podcast and give us a 5 star review on your favorite podcast platform. And make sure you give us a call sometime with a question or comment at 951-472-3273.

How do important decisions get made in a self-directed democratic school? Do students really get to vote on the budget, the hiring and firing of staff, and other essential elements of school life? Find out on this episode of the Alpine Valley School podcast, where we delve into the School Meeting. Listen as three past School Meeting Chairs talk about their experiences in running the meeting, and discuss times when their job was frustrating, as well as when it was most rewarding. Join James Kashevos, Em Eliasen, and Efe Osemwengie as they talk about how School Meeting shaped their lives as young people, and how they continue to use those lessons in the adult world.   Show notes for this episode available at: www.alpinevalleyschool.com/podcast/ep25   Want to learn more? Watch a video from Sudbury Valley about School Meeting. Read our blog post: How Business Gets Done Check out the Alpine Valley School Family Handbook Read an article from The New Republic about Sudbury Schooling Listen to the podcast episode about Judicial Committee. Learn more about Robert's Rules of Order (discussed in the interview) Listen to James Kashevos being interviewed on another episode of the podcast   Get in touch with the show! Send us an email at: podcast@alpinevalleyschool.com

Michael Roberts from Westword adds another dimension to the CBS/Ramsey lawsuit ruling and Douglas County Sheriff Tony Spurlock on the Back The Blue event and the video released on the tragic situation in Douglas County on New Year's Eve.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sean and Lindsay debate, in classic Robert's Rules style, the merits of Kikyo x Inuyasha and whether or not she puts the laughter in manslaughter. Shippoformance: 53% (Opening and Closing theme "My Will" by Gabriela Vega) (Image by MaramaTsg)

In this episode, we call the bluff of many boards who swear they adhere to Robert's Rules of Order. We partner with the Nonprofit Ally podcast on this episode where Steve Vick interviewed Susan Leahy, author of Roberts Rules Made Simple.  

While I advise to use the current edition of Robert's Rules and explained several reasons in the last episode, there are also good reasons to use a different parliamentary authority. Here are three: It's one size fits all. Much of the procedures included in Robert's Rules are unneeded for the majority of nonprofit boards. My suggested resource for this is Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised in Brief. Robert's Rules is not based on consensus-building, which today's leadership models emphasize. People think they know Robert's Rules when they don't, so there can be a lot of confusion. I recommend you follow Robert’s Rules, using the latest version: Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition. But I also recommend you get the current version of Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised in Brief, which is in its second edition. Click on the links for my Amazon affiliate links. Subscribe to the Law Meets Gospel Podcast iTunes Google Play RSS Support the Law Meets Gospel Podcast Patreon.com Sign up to contribute an amount you choose for each episode the Law Meets Gospel Podcast publishes.

Parliamentary experts differ on whether to use Robert's Rules of Order or a different set of rules for meetings. I recommend Robert's Rules for many reasons. Here are five: It’s by far the most popular and well-known set of parliamentary rules in the United States. It addresses pretty much every situation your organization might come up against. (A result of having been tested and adjusted over 150 years.) Its goals of protection of the rights of members and those whom they represent are taken care of well. The rules require a deliberative process. They protect against instability but preserve flexibility. I recommend you follow Robert’s Rules, using the latest version: Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition. But I also recommend you get the current version of Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised in Brief, which is in its second edition. Click on the links for my Amazon affiliate links. Subscribe to the Law Meets Gospel Podcast iTunes Google Play RSS Support the Law Meets Gospel Podcast Patreon.com Sign up to contribute an amount you choose for each episode the Law Meets Gospel Podcast publishes.

Kristen Nye Larson--Richmond, VA councilwoman--joined me right before and right after her first ever council meeting. We talked about seating chart drama, the TV cameras, and mayoral bonuses. Also, she took a quiz on Robert's Rules of Order. City Council Chronicles provides reviews of city council meetings from across the United States and Canada. Named a "Top 100 Local Government Influencer" in 2016 by ELGL.org. Link: https://councilchronicles.com/ Twitter: @michaelkarlik Music by http://www.bensound.com/. Graphic by Ben Wasserman @benwasserbad.

TriMet held their monthly board meeting, but only two members were present? Did they have a meeting? Listen in as Roberts Rules of Order are explained, along with Chapter 2 of the TriMet Code called "Board Meeting Rules".

While Robert’s Rules of Order may seem outdated, outmoded, prescriptive, and even restrictive, you’d be surprised what a little bit of parliamentary procedure can do to make meetings much more highly productive. In this episode, I continue my discussion on Robert’s Rules of Order and how this can be incorporated into your meetings. In the last episode I gave some productivity principles for effective meetings. Continuing on the Robert’s Rules of Order theme, I want to cover some steps you can take to run more effective meetings in the modern era. Here they are.

While Robert’s Rules of Order may seem outdated, outmoded, prescriptive, and even restrictive, you’d be surprised what a little bit of parliamentary procedure can do to make meetings much more highly productive. The episode is the first part, giving some context with important productivity principles for using parliamentary procedure in meetings. When Brig. Gen. Henry Martyn Robert proposed the use of parliamentary procedure for common meetings back in 1876, he likely didn’t foresee the future of meetings as they happen today. However, while seemingly an anachronism or overly formal to some of you listening/reading (unless you yourself are a parliamentarian), Robert’s parliamentary law was as needed back in the 19th century as it is relevant today for the future of work to be done in more transparent, collaborative, and productive ways. Here’s why and how.

This month we finally get to the topic that inspired the idea for this podcast: What's the deal with Robert's Rules of Order? I've personally worked with not-for-profit boards for over a decade and I've never opened the 700+ page Robert's Rules of Order. I've dismissed the whole idea as being overly complex and simply too overwhelming for the typical board member to digest and, ultimately, a deterrent to effective board member engagement. My guest, Eli Mina, a Vancouver based consultant on board effectiveness and a registered Parliamentarian, was definitely up to the task of challenging my thinking. From our Vantage Point is brought to you by Humanity Financial Management, a Chartered Accounting firm dedicated to helping Canadian not-for-profit, charitable and social enterprises build capacity for strong internal financial management.

Robert Brands -Author of Robert's Rules of Innovation Radio interview with Small Buss Advocate show host Jim Blasingame

This week on Workin’ it OUT. Nate writes a novella, Josh Periscopes with the homeless and Gene gets heated about Roberts Rules of Order.

Susan Leahy, of ACWAonline.com, talks to Wendy about essential power tips women need to become strong leaders and stay healthy while charging ahead! Learn what you can do to become the healthiest leader you can be. Transcript Click here to view the full transcript for #62 Power Tips for Healthy Women in Leadership with Susan Leahy.   About Susan Leahy Susan Leahy, has been motivating, challenging and inspiring audiences for over 15 years. Susan is a communication specialist whose message revolves around taking personal responsibility for how you choose to show up, communicate and participate in your life. Susan Leahy is a inspirational speaker and communication specialist whose mission has turned to focus on helping to empower women personally and professionally. Working within organizations made up of predominately women, Susan supports her clients in becoming stronger leaders and better communicators with the goal of living a more successful and balanced life. Susan’s passion of motivating women, led her to found ACWA, the American Collegiate Women’s Association. ACWA supports the development of collegiate woman across the nation by providing powerful leadership conferences and a networking and community for collegiate women to learn, experience and increase personal confidence. Susan has a Masters degree in applied behavioral science with an emphasis in coaching and consulting from Bastyr University. Check out Susan Leahy's Parlipro Products In addition to her speaking career, Susan has created www.RobertsRulesMadeSimple.com. Susan works with thousands of boards across the US and Canada teaching them how to use Robert’s Rules of Order as a communication tool to get work done and have more productive meetings. Although Susan Leahy has been training boards of all types for over 15 years, RobertsRules MadeSimple.com was launched in 2010 so that Susan's revolutionary way of teaching this daunting material could reach more of the boards that need her help. Working alongside husband and partner Jared Patrick, they have continued to add new products and services ever since. Robert's Rules Made Simple is already the most popular and #1 rated Robert's Rules training tool available anywhere! Find Susan Leahy To learn more about Susan Leahy’s speaking services and products you can visit: www.SusanLeahy.com www.ACWAonline.com www.RobertsRulesMadeSimple.com If you’re enjoying the Live to 110 podcast, please leave Wendy a review in iTunes. Thanks! Are toxic metals causing your fatigue and health issues? Find out by taking Wendy’s Heavy Metals Quiz at

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This podcast looks at the office of the President first from the point of view of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised and then from AIPSC.

More new shows! Plus regular tv talk. Timestamps are approximate: Black Sails (01:48) Archer (13:06) The Derek Report (17:48) Justified (24:03) Sherlock (35:58) Arrow (43:06) Banshee (48:26) True Detective (54:00) We have a NEW phone number: 617-858-0733. We also have a NEW email address: thebigredpodcast@gmail.com. Find us on Twitter: @bigredpodcast Visit us at www.bigredpodcast.com or email us: thebigredpodcast@gmail.com Musical score provided by Ernesto Burden, www.ernestoburden.com.

A way to keep current on the world of sports with colorful commentary by host Paul Roberts. THE SPORTS REPORT Episode: #98 "Memorable Moments" Runtime: 36:32 (18.1 MB) DOWNLOAD (mp3) Description: What has been your favorite moment of the London Games? Paul says the women's soccer match between the U.S. and Canada is at the top of his list! Kobe Bryant came out of hiding for the men's basketball team and Misty and Kerri proved unbeatable again. One of the best sports-related TV shows is back! On the lighter side, you'll hear about some clear violations of "Roberts Rules" that Paul witnessed at a MLB game. Your browser does not support the html5 audio player. Use flash player below.

Radio Host Jim Blasingame interviews Robert Brands, Author of Robert's Rules of Innovation

Audio Book Trailer Robert's Rules of Innovation

The a-b-cs of Parliamentary Procedure -- What is Roberts Rules of Order and why it is worth your time to become familiar with its use. Stellar round of your calls.

The Caucus Process with special attention focused upon tomorrow's Iowa GOP Caucus, Robert's Rules of Order, and your calls.

Jim Blasingame Interviews Robert Brands Author of "Robert's Rules of Innovation" and InnovationCoach.

Quick 30 min review of Innovate to Thrive imperatives covering Robert's Rules of Innovation

Don't miss this episode of The Daily Grind on Rounders Radio as the grind welcomes Robert Ciaffone, author of the Roberts Rules of Poker. Robert discusses his involvement in the political side of the poker industry, rules and etiquette, and regulations set forth in certain states.

Download Audio Discussions with 2010 KOTESOL National Candidates October 3, 2010 Candidates for KOTESOL National Council (in order of appearance) 00:20  Stafford Lumsden, Conference Co-chair 17:40  Doug Huffer,  Nominations & Elections Chair 37:00 Aaron Jolly, 2nd Vice President 55:45 Peadar Callaghan, 1st Vice President Online Voting October 4~14 Onsite Voting at the International Conference Oct. 16~17 More informatin about elections & candidates at: http://kotesol.org/?q=elections Post-show Roundtable Discussion Here Chat Log 06:51:43  craignl ->  Good evening 07:05:32  craignl ->  Good evening Peadar 07:05:46  peadar ->  evening 07:15:15  peadar ->  hi room 07:16:54  craignl ->  Evening all 07:17:23  peadar ->  I believe if anyone has questions please speak up 07:20:02  saradavila ->  Question for Conference Chair and Co-Chair: This year conference acceptence/rejection process was handled in a manner I felt was very unprofessional. I'd like to know how the conference will address this issue in the future to make the process more personal, and show more respect for all canidates submitting papers for the call. 07:21:56  Jeff ->  http://shomuni.blogspot.com/ 07:24:32  chosunbimbo ->  @Sara I think you have to take into consideration there were in excess of 300 proposals received by the program team - While they were form letters that people received they were professional and in line with any other rejection or acceptance letter you might have received from any other organisation 07:25:55  chosunbimbo ->  This will be the first year in A LONG TIME there have been contests for various positions 07:26:05  chosunbimbo ->  Am I the only one here? 07:26:06  chosunbimbo ->  Hello 07:26:12  chosunbimbo ->  Is this thing on? 07:26:21  peadar ->  its here 07:26:22  chosunbimbo ->  *tap* *tap* 07:27:07  peadar ->  I can however say having recieved one of those letters it was not inline with what was sent to me last year 07:27:20  chosunbimbo ->  rejection letter? 07:27:36  peadar ->  was rejected last year and accepted this year 07:30:08  chosunbimbo ->  interesting - I got one - but being on concomm I knew the same day that the mail went out and paid it little attention - what did it say 07:31:08  peadar ->  it required you to download and check a full list of accepted proposals to see if you had ben accepted or rejected 07:31:52  craignl ->  I find Paedar's comment on rejection/acceptance from year to year interesting. As someone who participated in the vetting process, I was somewhat concerned that there were no clear guidelines for vetting proposals. Having been part of Conference planning teams, both international, that's one area the Conference Committee might consider for improvment (sorry that I'm veering a bit off topic). 07:32:52  craignl ->  Sorry, the last sentence should read '...both international and national' 07:33:06  peadar ->  its a great point I just worry that the way the notifications were handeld this year might discourage presenters in the future 07:33:49  saradavila ->  I've been a presenter at the international for about five years. The acceptance/rejection process this year was much different form last year. 07:34:05  saradavila ->  This year to find out if you were accepted or rejected you had to read a list of accepted proposals. 07:34:18  saradavila ->  Last year a form letter was sent to presenters who had been accepted. 07:34:37  saradavila ->  A seperate letter to presenters who had been rejected, thanking them for time and encouraging them to resubmit. 07:34:48  craignl ->  Yes, usually when I have made proposals to other international conferences I have usually gotten a message courteously but clearly saying 'Yes' or 'No' 07:35:35  chosunbimbo ->  Ah I see - I didn't realise it was just one email to everyone who submitted a paper... 07:35:59  saradavila ->  When I received the letter and was asked to see if I was on the list of accepted proposals, I have to say, I was insulted. Going through that list I didn't even see my name the first time as I was so upset. There is impersonal and then there is just unprofessional. I'm sorry, the way it was handled this year was unprofessional. 07:36:40  MattinDaegu ->  is there any particular reason why they changed the process? 07:37:13  saradavila ->  For submitters who were putting in proposals for the first time, I can't imagine the let down for those that were accepted. I mean, really, just a moment to get that letter, even a form letter, that says "Congradulations, your paper made it" is an achievement. I remember the first one I got, I still have it. 07:37:44  craignl ->  I wonder if the pressure of time caused a certain 'cutting of corners' - not to excuse what happened, but to explain 07:38:11  saradavila ->  Those presenters who were accepted for the first time this year lost out on that experience, and I for one, am rather offended that an organization and large as KOTESOL, with a conference fielding as many proposals as we have, would use this particular method. 07:38:43  saradavila ->  Being an experience EXCEL user it would take four minutes to set up two seperate lists for accepted and rejected proposals. 07:38:53  saradavila ->  experienced 07:40:07  craignl ->  This may lead on to a larger issue - for an international conference like ours, I've begun to think having a daedline for proposals being as close to the Conference date as it is, especially when compared to other conferences, is not a good thing. Anyone else with thoughts on this? 07:40:28  saradavila ->  As I recall the deadline was May 31st for proposals. 07:40:40  craignl ->  I believe it was extended 07:41:02  chosunbimbo ->  5 months - is not all that short.... 07:41:03  saradavila ->  Further, if there are no clear guidelines in the vetting process I have to wonder about whether or not new presenters are truly being considered as presentations. 07:41:28  MattinDaegu ->  for an international conference, particularly for presenters from outside of Korea, I would say they need a little more time to make plans, books tickets etc. 07:41:49  saradavila ->  I've also been rather unhappy with the scheduling process. At the moment my presentation is scheduled in clear conflict with the available times I submitted to present. I am not the only presenter who has expereinced this problem. 07:42:00  chosunbimbo ->  I'm interested in what you say Craig - my understanding (not my dept) as that there was a much more thorough vetting process this year 07:42:05  saradavila ->  @Jeff, EPIK show, absolutely. 07:42:56  peadar ->  does anyone have any opinions on the proposed then unproposed changes to the constitution 07:43:04  MattinDaegu ->  is the vetting process codified in the bylaws? 07:43:05  chosunbimbo ->  Yes many 07:43:11  saradavila ->  If we are recieving so many proposals I am curious about the need to extend? 07:43:19  Jeff ->  http://www.koreabridge.com/kotesol/busan04/ 07:43:29  chosunbimbo ->  We won't hold he fact that he's Australian against Aaron 07:43:38  peadar ->  @ chosun please raise the issues 07:43:45  saradavila ->  Considering the push during last years election for communication I find the lack of presentaiton to all members of proposed changes telling. 07:43:55  peadar ->  its a good place to discuss them 07:44:33  chosunbimbo ->  See now, where was this lack of communication? I got the draft, read the changes, and am happy to cast my vote having made up my mind... 07:45:21  chosunbimbo ->  Yay! More Chapterr Conferences! i want to go to Jeju! 07:46:57  peadar ->  @chosun I know of two seperate drafts of the changes that were sent out 07:47:06  chosunbimbo ->  On the tabling of the amendments - it now means that the new term of National Council will start with some members not being able to vote - i.e. the o-Chair, who, because of precedent usually has a voting seat on Council, but whose vote is not set in stone as it were in the constitution 07:47:08  saradavila ->  I have not received a draft. 07:47:18  craignl ->  @chosun - The 'lack of communication' refers to the proposed changes to the Constitution and Bylaws? 07:47:33  chosunbimbo ->  Web presence - Hell Yes 07:48:32  MattinDaegu ->  just reading the charter...it states that the proposed changes must be sent out to all members at least 30 days prior to the vote...I never got a copy, Sara hasn't... 07:48:48  MattinDaegu ->  I'm sure we're not the only ones 07:48:55  craignl ->  Sorry I was just checking some things - well, the fact is that two versions of the proposed changes, unalike, went around to the membership. Members were not in possession of the same set of proposed changes 07:49:00  dhuffer ->  Vote is not occuring right now.  07:49:06  chosunbimbo ->  OK some people didn't get it, I'm not saying there is an element of malfesence, but it leaves council in a position where a) status quo remains (and i believe one "bloq on council wants this) and b) the same bloq is threatened by another bloq who might vote against them because they doin't have the numbers 07:49:22  chosunbimbo ->  That and some general ineptitude in getting the info out to everyone 07:49:26  craignl ->  True, and a good decision was made to delay the vote on this. 07:50:37  chosunbimbo ->  Yay! More kotesol Journal! 07:50:39  peadar ->  why is it a good decision to not manage to propose something that has been worked on for 8 months 07:51:02  chosunbimbo ->  indeed - By Laws can be voted for at the ABM on Sunday 07:51:09  peadar ->  do to "some general ineptitude" 07:51:17  chosunbimbo ->  As can the change in the constitution according to one reading of the rules 07:52:08  craignl ->  I'm sorry - what reading is that? 07:52:14  MattinDaegu ->  will they be listing what said proposed changes are in full at the conference? 07:52:36  dhuffer ->  I think they're still discussing the changes 07:53:08  MattinDaegu ->  will they be taking the opportunity presented by the international conference to discuss the changes with regular members? 07:53:08  peadar ->  call sig 07:54:07  dhuffer ->  I was told they'd be taken up at the next national council meeting - I think that's the leadership retreat in Dec or Jan 07:54:46  peadar ->  sadly this will not have a membership voting opportunity 07:55:21  saradavila ->  As for the KTT it would be great to see a bit more compesntation for preparation and travel. 07:55:31  MattinDaegu ->  but there is a great opportunity to at least show what the proposed changes are at this conference...why won't they be taking advantage of it...even to just have them on display... 07:56:22  craignl ->  Well, if the changes are properly hammered out at the next Council, they will have to be properly sent out, 30 days for perusal/debate, and then an electronic ballot can be taken 07:56:40  saradavila ->  Waves! 07:56:44  saradavila ->  It's that Sara. 07:57:24  saradavila ->  As to the journal it would nice to see grants reinstated to encourage research. 07:57:38  peadar ->  or publicity about it 07:57:58  MattinDaegu ->  ok, but my point is, why aren't regular members being consulted, even in a broad sense, at an international forum which would be a perfect opportunity...and the issue raised by Chosun about bloqs could be made clear to the general members who would then be better able to choose appropriate leadership 07:58:33  chosunbimbo ->  @Matt - come to the ABM on Sunday and ask The National Council - They'll be there. 07:58:53  MattinDaegu ->  I'm already planning on it! 07:58:57  dhuffer ->  I agree 07:59:22  dhuffer ->  But I don't think they have proposals close enough to discuss. 07:59:37  chosunbimbo ->  @Matt - I think we're all aware of the bloqs aren't we...? 08:00:12  chosunbimbo ->  3...2...1... 08:00:41  MattinDaegu ->  no, I've never been to the national conference before...as a poli-sci major, they'll probably become evident quickly enough but the point being I think not every member will be so aware, and they need the opportunity to observe their leadership 08:00:51  saradavila ->  Finally video....Wee... 08:00:57  dhuffer ->  echo 08:01:19  chosunbimbo ->  Sorry - no video from me...winnie the pooh jimjams not so flattering 08:02:05  MattinDaegu ->  is everyone using video? 08:02:10  saradavila ->  Winnie makes everything flattering. 08:02:17  dhuffer ->  just Peader 08:02:20  chosunbimbo ->  @Sara heeheehee 08:03:09  saradavila ->  Will there be no discussion of by law issues at the National Conference, or is this the Saturday of the National Conference? 08:03:34  chosunbimbo ->  The Annual Business meeting will be the opportunity to bring it up Sunday 4pm 08:03:45  chosunbimbo ->  Floor is open to all members 08:03:56  MattinDaegu ->  that's irritating...I have to work in Daegu on Sunday...can't be there 08:04:05  dhuffer ->  You can bring it up, but they'll probably sandbag 08:04:30  saradavila ->  Communication has definately been an issue this year. 08:04:43  chosunbimbo ->  Well i am one of about 4 people I know who have yet to receive a reply from Bob Caprilis after i wrote him this week on the subject 08:04:58  saradavila ->  There have been a number of meetings and events this year that have not been well announced to the general members. 08:05:01  chosunbimbo ->  Other things - no council minutes being distributed 08:05:09  dhuffer ->  he sent out mass email.  I think that was your reply 08:05:11  chosunbimbo ->  who knows what they're up to.... 08:05:15  chosunbimbo ->  heeheehee 08:05:24  dhuffer ->  and where's the budget been? 08:05:31  MattinDaegu ->  world domination by the cunning use of bylaws 08:05:37  saradavila ->  Is the budget out yet? Are we still running without a budget? 08:05:46  chosunbimbo ->  see Matt - you do know the bloqs 08:05:49  MattinDaegu ->  lol 08:06:06  dhuffer ->  I saw one on FB Concerned Members group.  But nothing official from KOTESOL 08:06:08  saradavila ->  Suncheon Outreach Workshop, represent! 08:06:15  saradavila ->  Great group of teachers yesterday! 08:06:52  saradavila ->  I was there as a KTT invited speaker, good time. 08:08:02  MattinDaegu ->  IX. Amendments. The Bylaws may be amended by a majority vote of members provided that notice of the proposed change has been given to all members at least thirty days before the vote. The Bylaws may be amended without such prior notice only at the Annual Business Meeting, and in that case the proposal shall require approval by three-fourths of the members present. 08:08:25  chosunbimbo ->  @matt - indeed 08:08:27  MattinDaegu ->  this seems to imply that there MUST be a vote on the bylaws, or any proposals 08:08:52  craignl ->  Which version, though? Two versions went out 08:09:08  MattinDaegu ->  and if they don't have a quarum, the vote would, according to Robert's Rules of Order, it would not be a valid vote...this is the one currently up on the KOTESOL website 08:09:11  chosunbimbo ->  The problem being - soemone would have to put in the time and develop changes, distribute and talk about them at the meeting and then propose a vote without the motion being voted down 08:09:47  chosunbimbo ->  or being called out of order as you note 08:10:21  chosunbimbo ->  I also have a big issue with the "rules" and their interpretation being vested in ine person 08:10:30  chosunbimbo ->  *one person* 08:10:49  MattinDaegu ->  so basically, any vote made there could be argued as invalid as there's unlikely to be a valid quorum 08:11:07  chosunbimbo ->  what is required for a quarum? 08:11:12  chosunbimbo ->  20? 08:11:18  chosunbimbo ->  plus natcon? 08:12:22  chosunbimbo ->  there should be a quarum at the ABM - there are enough interested general members this year who have expressed their interest in attending 08:12:28  MattinDaegu ->  it isn't listed in the bylaws...natcon is what I'm assuming it's talking about, which is generally accepted as 2/3 of registered members...now the bylaws state 3/4 majority of members PRESENT, but it could be argued that this would still be invalid as it could be used in a very sneaky way 08:13:01  MattinDaegu ->  that's assuming that everyone would be there and available to vote 08:13:02  chosunbimbo ->  right - which is why ONE person is not enough to turn to for an interpretaion of the rules 08:14:01  chosunbimbo ->  i play starcraft 08:14:10  MattinDaegu ->  lol 08:14:26  MattinDaegu ->  I have SouthPark on in the background 08:15:32  dhuffer ->  there won't be a quorum at the ABM 08:16:16  MattinDaegu ->  so when will they make proposals open for discussion/debate to general members? 08:17:21  saradavila ->  The ABM should be on sunday the 17th and it is usually pretty well attended. 08:17:25  saradavila ->  That was my understanding. 08:17:47  dhuffer ->  good question.  I don't think the current council intends for member discussion.  it'll be straight vote 08:17:52  chosunbimbo ->  changes have been tabled and will be looked at again by natcon - the new one - who knows how long that will take, sent out to members and then add 30 dys before a vote 08:18:04  MattinDaegu ->  ah...I might be giving you some questions to ask, if you don't mind as I can't been there... 08:18:22  chosunbimbo ->  can't be changed by council - has to be all members 08:18:43  dhuffer ->  Constitution doesn't define quorum, so by default it should be 1/2 of members 08:19:04  dhuffer ->  I think last year about 400 voters 08:19:17  chosunbimbo ->  who saw my brochure? Who saw my brochure? 08:19:25  MattinDaegu ->  hmmmm...might be something to bring up with the council...that a quorum defined in the bylaws 08:20:15  dhuffer ->  BT!

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