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Clay Davis


    • Jan 3, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    The Build with Clay Podcast is a truly remarkable show that delves into the journeys of individuals who have found growth through adversity and hard work. Hosted by Clay, this podcast provides a platform for guests to share their stories and insights, making it relatable and motivating for listeners across various industries and stages of life.

    One of the best aspects of The Build with Clay Podcast is how Clay successfully uncovers common themes in each interview that are not only incredibly relatable but also highly inspiring. Through his engaging conversations, he manages to extract valuable lessons that can be applied to personal and professional growth. Whether you're looking for motivation in your career, relationships, or overall well-being, this podcast offers something for everyone.

    Additionally, Clay's interviewing style is a major highlight of the podcast. He effortlessly invites listeners into a conversational atmosphere where time seemingly flies by. The genuine camaraderie between Clay and his guests creates an enjoyable listening experience that keeps you hooked from start to finish. By the end of each episode, you'll not only feel inspired but also armed with practical insights on how to improve yourself and navigate challenges.

    Although it's challenging to find any flaws in The Build with Clay Podcast, one aspect that could be improved upon is the frequency of new episodes. As a listener, it's easy to become hooked on the value provided by each episode and eagerly anticipate more content. However, given the high quality and depth of each interview, it's understandable that time may be required to produce such great episodes.

    In conclusion, The Build with Clay Podcast is an exceptional show that offers profound inspiration and practical advice for personal growth. With its relatable stories and motivating themes, this podcast has the power to ignite a zeal within listeners to better themselves in every aspect of life. Clay's genuine passion for positive teachings shines through in every episode, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone seeking personal development and success.



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    #44 Build with Melissa McCabe - Hurricane Helene, Conservation, Education

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2025 102:25


    #43 Build with Judd Ficklen - Biking Across America, Weird Birthday Things, The 5 F's, Retirement and Personal Finance Decisions

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2024 115:00


    In this episode we build with Judd Ficklen!After graduating from the University of Georgia, Judd began his career in banking. He then spent 27 years at IBM, with the last decade as a senior executive. Now retired, Judd shares his leadership gifts in the community.Our conversation spanned all sorts of topics - which is not surprise given how well we know each other. Judd shares his passion of biking, including what he learned biking across America in less than 50 days. We talk about the 5 F's (Family, Friends, Faith, Finances, Fitness), how important they each are and how Judd has approached each of the 5 in his life. We chat birthdays, retirement, books, stoicism and so much more. Please enjoy this fun and engaging conversation with Judd Ficklen!

    #42 Build with ML - Life at Camp, Rhythms and Routines, Importance of Community, Marriage Retreats

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2024 68:10


    On this episode, we build with Mary Laurence McMillan Crook. Lovingly known as ML, she is the Executive Director of Camp Seafarer, where she leads more than 1,000 campers, counselors and volunteers each summer.ML has been in my life since childhood. We went to the same schools, church and played copious amounts of flag football together. I'm thrilled to get her on the mic!It was no surprise that we spanned lots of topics during this conversation. ML highlighted what life at camp is like and how they offer a unique setting for anyone on site. We talked about our shared experience of losing a parent and how that's affected each of us. ML shared how important rhythms and routines can be at home and at camp. We talked about the power of community and how we as humans need community to thrive. Along with so much more!ML has long been one of my favorite people in my life and I'm so honored and glad she accepted my invitation to join the pod for this episode.I hope you'll enjoy this wide ranging conversation!Books Referenced:Love Does by Bob GoffHabits of the Household by Justin Whitmel EarleyHunt, Gather, Parent by Michaeleen DoucleffFind more about Camp Seafarer and Camp Seagull here: https://www.seagull-seafarer.org/

    #41 Build with Zack Stone - Kidnapping Story, Juicing an Onion, Stoic Teachings

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2024 90:47


    On this episode, we Build with Zack Stone. Zack is a second-time guest as he joined us on episode 38 with his business partner, Joel Fleming, to discuss all things real estate and life. In this episode we discuss kidnapping, water-skiing, Stoicism, decision making, juicing an onion, how we are finite, weight loss, diet, optionality and so much more. As you can see, we touched a lot of topics. Zack has one of the most unique perspectives of anyone in my life and it was a pleasure to have him on!Zack graduated from Wake Forest University with a degree in Business and Enterprise Management. Over the years that followed, Zack started and successfully closed a private debt fund, assisted several small businesses as a consultant, started a private equity search fund and now runs Devereaux alongside Joel.Please enjoy this wide-ranging conversation with Zack Stone!Books Referenced:Eat to LiveThe Stoic ChallengeHow Not to DieDiscourses of Epictetus

    #40 Build with Jamie and Clay - Get to Know the Brothers, How Death Changed Us, How We Show Love

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2023 76:59


    This is a special "Podcast Takeover"!Our friend, Joel Fleming, takes the mic as host of this special episode of The Build with Clay Podcast. Joel knows what the people want - and it's an interview with Clay and his brother, Jamie Davis. In this episode, Joel spends the first 25 minutes asking Clay and Jamie to answer get-to-know-you questions, weaving between serious and not-so-serious. Joel then has the brothers dive into their lives and how they were impacted by fatherhood and losing their father to ALS. Discussion leads into how their perspective on work has evolved and how the word "love" is now used in the Davis household. Enjoy!Book Referenced: The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer

    #39 Build with David Foley - How He Retired at 37, Snake Charmers, How to Intentionally Design Your Life, Life as a Lawyer

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2023 139:02


    In this episode we Build with David Foley. I wanted Foley (known by his last name in our friend circle) to come on the pod for many reasons - one of which is he recently retired at the age of 37. We chat about what went into that decision, what variables he considered and what advice he has for others contemplating early retirement. We also discuss how to optimally design your life, travel tips, what it's like to be a lawyer, the power of reading and much more. Foley graduated with an undergraduate degree in Chemistry from the University of North Carolina and then received his law degree from Duke University. Foley spent the first chapter of his career practicing law at Kirkland & Ellis, one of the country's most elite law firms. He then become a Director of Legal at multiple start up technology firms, concluding his career with CrowdStrike. I hope you enjoy this fun and wide ranging conversation with a dear friend!References:Rich, Broke or Dead?ERN Safe Withdrawal Rate SeriesBook RecommendationsThe MartianProject Hail MaryThe Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & ClayTomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    #38 Build with Joel & Zack - Asking Others for Money, No One Knows What's Going On, Slow and Steady Growth, Setting Limits

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2023 96:02


    On this episode, we Build with Joel Fleming and Zack Stone. This pair founded Devereux - a boutique real estate investment firm located in Raleigh, NC, specializing in the acquisition and management of multifamily and commercial properties. We chat about how they founded the company, the development of a growth strategy, how no one knows what's going on, how to artfully ask others for money and so much more. We had a lot of fun in this episode which is jam packed with actionable tips, interesting stories and plenty of laughs. Please enjoy this fun and wide ranging conversation with Joel and Zack!Zack graduated from Wake Forest University with a degree in Business and Enterprise Management. Over the years that followed, Zack started and successfully closed a private debt fund, assisted several small businesses with their recapitalization efforts as a consultant, and most recently established a private equity search fund that would start a commercial security integration company and later acquire a large audio/visual integration company.Joel graduated from North Carolina State University with a degree in Sport Management. Throughout his career, Joel has followed his entrepreneurial spirit by working as a commercial real estate broker, operating and successfully exiting a multi-unit franchise business, and actively sourcing investment opportunities in real estate and private equity.Devereux is a boutique real estate investment firm located in Raleigh, NC, specializing in the acquisition and management of multifamily and commercial properties. Our team combines a background of real estate, business management and private equity to provide sound, technical evaluations of investments. To learn more, visit their website.Recommendations:The Waking Up AppThe Master and Margarita

    #37 Build with Ricky Shore - Contracts with 12-Year-Olds, Businesses with a Soul, How to Incentivize People, Identifying a Great Client in 5 Minutes

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2023 68:54


    On this episode, we Build with Ricky Shore. Ricky graduated from North Carolina State University and started his first career with Wachovia Bank. 25 years later he left the Bank as a senior executive and purchased Aladdin Travel and Meeting Planners. 14 years later, he sold Aladdin and is now happily retired from not just 1, but 2 careers.In this wide-ranging conversation, we discuss life with 3 kids, his journey from being with the bank for 25 years to pivoting to owning his own travel company. We get into what "Rickyism's" are and how they help build a strong culture that's built to last. Ricky also shares how to incentivize people the right way and how to pick the right clients.Ricky is married to Sally (41 years) and they have three children and seven grandchildren. They have lived in Hickory, NC, Atlanta, Georgia and now their hometown of Winston-Salem, NC.During his working career and in retirement Ricky has been a committed volunteer and helped numerous organizations with fundraising. He is active at St. Paul's Episcopal Church and has helped with 3 capital campaigns, served on the Vestry both Senior and Junior Warden. Today, Ricky is enjoying traveling, his children and grandchildren, golf, tennis, pickle ball, biking and not working.Enjoy!

    #36 Build with Skip Lineberg - Writing Down Failures, Advice for Giving Gifts, Living Your Why, Closing the Loop

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2023 71:57


    On this episode we build with Skip Lineberg! Skip learned business, management and marketing at General Electric, during the Jack Welch heydays. He parlayed that experience into the founding of marketing communications firm, Maple Creative, where he led the firm as CEO and Chief Creative Officer from 2001 to 2010. He later served as Chief Innovation Officer at the law firm Spilman Thomas & Battle. Skip also worked at Frontier Communications, serving as solution developer and scrum master. He presently works for CAMC as its digital strategy manager. Skip is an Honors Program graduate of West Virginia University (B.S. Industrial Engineering) where he studied with Dr. Jack Byrd (from episode 11), who remains his mentor to this day. Skip is co-author of the book, “Effective Immediately – How to Fit In, Stand Out and Move Up at Your First Real Job.” Published by Random House in 2010, the book is in its third printing. He's also the founder and host of the popular show “The Main Thing Podcast.” While podcasting is his passion, Skip's purpose is teaching. He views every role and opportunity from the perspective of a coach. He resides in Charleston, West Virginia with wife Lisa and two children. The Main Thing Podcast - Hosted by Skip LinebergSubscribe to Skip's email newsletterPurchase Skip's book, "Effective Immediately"Book Recommendations:The Checklist Manifesto by Atul GawandeTribes by Seth Godin

    #35 Build with Mary-Kathryn Connor - Attracting and Retaining Top Talent, Advice for Young Families, How we are Designed to Learn from Struggle

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2023 69:47


    On this episode, we Build with Mary-Kathryn Connor!Mary-Kathryn Connor is the Director of Hayes Barton United Methodist Preschool. She is a native of Goldsboro, NC and holds a Bachelor's degree in Family and Consumer Sciences from Meredith College and a Master's degree in Early Childhood Intervention and Family Support from UNC-Chapel Hill. She has her B-K, K-6, and 7-12 teaching licenses. She has a vast resume of experiences having been a teacher, department chair, and adjunct instructor at Moore Square Magnet Middle School, Needham B. Broughton High School and Meredith College. Through her skillful leadership, Mary-Kathryn brought about instrumental change and success not only in programming but also in student achievement and staff support. The Wake County Public School System recognized her work by naming her Wake County's Diane Kent Parker First Year Teacher of the Year, Broughton High School Teacher of the Year, Wake County Teacher of the Year Finalist, WRAL Teacher of the Week, WCPSS Employee Excellence Award recipient, and the Richard M. Jewell Teaching Excellence Award. This was such a fun conversation. We discuss so much in this episode, beginning with her journey through early childhood education (and some fun stories!). We discuss how she has surrounded herself with amazing talent and what advice she has for young families and those about to enter the real world. As Director of the Preschool, Mary-Kathryn has been surrounded by 150+ children for the last 5 years and I've seen firsthand how she has transformed an environment that has positively impacted the lives of so many, including my children. I want others to know her journey, what she's learned and be inspired to grow!Enjoy! Books Recommended:The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark ComerThe Lives We Actually Have by Kate Bowler and Jessica Richie

    #34 Build with Theresa Caragol - Life as a CEO, The Power of Partnership, Experience with Angel Investing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2023 54:47


    In this episode we Build with Theresa Caragol.Theresa Caragol is the founder and CEO, AchieveUnite Inc., a strategic consulting and education firm that provides channel, partnering, and business acceleration services to leaders and global enterprises. With Theresa's leadership, AchieveUnite offers partner and channel development, go-to-market strategy, & channel integration, and executive education forums. Theresa is a sought-after influencer with more than 20 years of experience across over 50 countries, building and managing multi-million-dollar indirect channel teams and strategic alliance programs from inception to sales success. She has developed numerous Executive Advisory Boards and Think Tanks, and co-founded the Baptie Women's Leadership Council. Theresa has received numerous IT industry channel accolades and is a member of the CompTIA Channel Faculty - curriculum development, Baptie Channel Chiefs, Industry Think Tank and Council – Facilitator, as well as Non-Profit Boards: National Choral Society. Theresa Caragol is also a sought-after speaker, trainer, and facilitator, and was recently featured in the books, How To Be A Woman In Technology (While Focusing On What Matters Most) and How to be an Emotionally Intelligent Leader. Prior to founding AchieveUnite Inc., Theresa held senior executive roles at Extreme Networks, Ciena and Nortel. She holds a Bachelors from Virginia Tech, an MBA from the University of Wisconsin, and an Executive Masters in Leadership from Georgetown University Business School. Theresa regularly speaks, writes, and blogs on a variety of topics in notable publications such as Forbes.com, and for some of today's most recognized technology companies.Website: AchieveUnite | Channel Partner Success and InnovationSubscribe to AU's Newsletter: AchieveUnite Partnering Insights Newsletter - AchieveUniteEbook-Thought Leadership: Thought Leadership - AchieveUniteJoin our upcoming PQi workshop:

    #33 Build with AP Capaldo de Aoun - Picking your Boss, Best Attributes of an Executive, Why Being a Theater Kid Rules

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2023 63:10


    In this episode, we chat with AP Capaldo de Aoun. AP serves as Assistant General Counsel at TD SYNNEX, one of the world's largest distributors of technology products, services, and solutions. Previously, AP served as Director of Ethics & Compliance for Tech Data, and Associate General Counsel of Global Ethics & Compliance at Laureate Education, a leading higher education provider with more than 70 universities in 25 countries across the Americas, Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Middle East.AP is responsible for legal support of the Americas region, including corporate transactional matters, litigation, and operations. Additionally, AP focuses her work on counseling the business on a variety of topics related to labor, employment, internal investigations, and regulatory matters. Previously she was lead counsel for the company's Latin America region and the export division and the company's global IP portfolio.AP received her law degree from the University of Notre Dame Law School and completed her undergraduate studies in English Literature at Florida International University. AP is a Supreme Court of Indiana CLEO Fellow, and served as Secretary of the Hispanic Law Students Association and Academic Chair of the Black Law Students Association at Notre Dame. She was a visiting scholar at the University of Bocconi School Of Law in Milan, Italy and worked at the St. Joseph County's Public Defender's Office in South Bend, Indiana. In the community, she has served as Legal Guardian at Miami Cerebral Palsy and volunteered with His House Children's Home. AP calls Parkland, FL home with her husband and two young children.Enjoy!Article on APFind her on LinkedInBook Recommendation: Cribsheet by Emily Oster

    #32 Build with Jeff Buehner - Seizing Control of Your Life, Lessons from Aladdin, Defining a Happy Life

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2023 72:50


    In this episode, we build with Jeff Buehner. Twenty-eight years ago, Jeff came across the writings of the richest man to ever walk the earth, Sultan Musa of Mali. No one's ever come close to this guy, not Jeff Bezos and not Elon Musk. The Sultan could not talk openly about how he learned these secrets, so he embedded the principles of his success in a fairytale so compelling that centuries later nearly everyone in the world is familiar with it. At the age of 12, Musa had a near death experience in which he met a man made of light who taught him how the world works, how creation works. Contained in his writings is something called the Language of the Gods. When you speak this language the world obeys your commands! As Jeff just dabbled in speaking this language, some very strange coincidences occurred. So, he got serious about speaking it... and his whole world changed! He went from a $60,000 a year concrete guy to making hundreds of thousands a month in a new business that just dropped into his lap. Over the past 28 years, Jeff has successfully mentored and coached countless others to speak this all-important language that changes everything. When you learn to speak the Language of the Gods, you can drastically improve your sales, success, fitness, relationships and anything else you desire. It's all contained within Jeff's book, The Sultan's Seven Secrets.Check out Jeff's BookJeff's WebsiteInstagram

    #31 Build with Kathy Fehling - Starting Your Own Company, Retirement Tips, Planning for Perseverance

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2023 78:02


    On this episode, we build with Kathy Fehling. Kathy began her career in sales and worked up through management, often becoming the first woman to hold leadership positions in the company's she work for. Then, in the middle of the night, Kathy decided it was time to start her own company. Over the next 20+ years she became an extremely successful executive recruiter – helping multi-billion dollar companies find their next CEO. In this episode, we explore her journey on what it was like to be a woman in a man's world, starting her own company and the trials and tribulations along the way. Towards the end of the episode, we unearth what led her to retirement and what everyone should know about entering that phase of their life.Enjoy!Show NotesBook Rec: Retirement Roots - Robert LauraBook Rec: Ruthless Elimination of Hurry - John Mark ComerCompassion InternationalGuardium ad Litem

    #30 Build with Kailey Lefko - Temper Tantrums, Bringing Mindfulness to the Classroom, Why Stress is Important

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2023 58:11


    On this episode, we build with Kailey Lefko. Kailey the co-founder of the evidence-based social-emotional learning and mindfulness program for schools, Educalme. Educalme was developed in response to the rise in anxiety, stress and burnout in the classroom for both students and teachers. Kailey teaches educators worldwide how to integrate mindfulness into their lives and classrooms through professional development workshops and The Balanced Educator Podcast. Kailey holds bachelor's degrees in science and education and is a Yoga Alliance certified yoga instructor trained in vinyasa and yin yoga. She is a leader in teacher and student wellness and we get into a fun conversation on this episode on all things mindfulness, education and why we can't learn when we are mad. Enjoy!References:Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor FranklAtomic Habits - James ClearCalm App - Meditation App RecommendationYou can find out more about Kailey's work at Educalme by visiting a special page for Build with Clay listeners: educalme.com/welcome Listen to The Balanced Educators PodcastClay's Favorite Episode

    #29 Build with Marvin Guelce - Creating Space for HELL YEAH, Exploring Masculinity, Powerful Questions

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2023 40:25


    On this episode, we build with Marvin Guelce. Marv is a community leader through and through. Literally - that's his title at lululemon. Marv loves Atlanta. Marv loves flag football. Marv loves to bring people together. Our conversation begins by exploring his incredible journey from a tough up-bringing to now living without fear. He defines what it is to be a real man and how we shouldn't play the comparative games. We weave through other topics, all of which have played a role in who Marv is as a person - an incredible one at that. Enjoy getting to know Marv and plan to be inspired!References:For the Love of Men - Liz PlankMan Enough - Justin BaldoniGirls and Sex - Peggy OrensteinArticle about Marvin

    #28 Build with Matt Brooks - FBI Drugs, Hugging the Homeless, Normalizing Differences

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2023 59:25


    On today's episode, we Build with Matt Brooks. I have known Matt for the last 8 years, as we both worked at IBM in similar capacities. I have always found Matt to be extremely calm, kind and genuine. In this episode, I aim to unearth what makes him this way and how others can improve themselves in these areas. We end up discussing Matt's extremely unique family situation, how that impacted him as a child, how important it is to normalize our differences and how we can better interact with the homeless. He also shares why he was kicked out of the FBI recruitment process - leading him to a successful career in technology, where he currently works at Google as a Data & Analytics Leader.Enjoy!References:7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen CoveyBack on My Feet (Non-profit supporting the homeless)

    #27 Build with Dads - Fatherhood Surprises, Supporting Mom, Power of Being Proactive

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2022 66:06


    Welcome to the Dad Pod! In this episode, we welcome 2 guests, Ryan Denney (from episode 2!) and Loren Morse, to chat about being a dad. Each of us are in a different phase of fatherhood. Loren has 3 kids in their 30s (including my wife), I have 3 kids under 7 and Ryan has a 2 month old. We chat about how our lives changed, what surprised us and how we support our partner, ourselves and the child along the way. And of course, there's a few incredibly hilarious dad jokes, too. Enjoy!

    #26 Build with Elizabeth Trinkaus - Being Enough, Living Lighter, Morning Rituals

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2022 56:05


    In this episode, we Build with Elizabeth Trinkaus. Elizabeth is the President of Pinnacle View, a life-enrichment company and the author of Enough Already! Yes, You Are. For over 25 years, she has helped thousands of clients around the world take steps to live their best life.She is a certified workshop leader of the Louise Hay Heal Your Life principles, a certified success coach and trainer of the Canfield Success Principles, a certified Pre-Cognitive Re-Educator, and holds a BS in counseling. She is the co-author of Conversations On Success with Deepak Chopra and Success Simplified with Stephen Covey and others.Elizabeth has been bringing her expertise to corporations, schools, retreats, and individuals. She has the education, experience, and tools that will provide the opportunity for you to accept that you are already enough, followed by the inspiration to manifest those precious dreams. She provides the avenue for you to experience the ultimate human freedom—the freedom that comes from knowing you can design your own life and live into your powerful new story. Enjoy!Elizabeth's WebsiteListen to Elizabeth's PodcastCheck out her bookBook Recommendations:The Four Agreements by Don Miguel RuizThe Gifts of Imperfection by Brenè Brown

    #25 Build with Clay Davis - Time vs. Attention, UNC vs. Duke, Busyness vs. Leisure

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2022 55:23


    At the urging of some listeners, it was requested that we have an episode where I'm the one on the hot seat. So on this episode, we Build with Clay. Jonathan Stokke from the Baseline Intelligence Podcast (and the first guest on this podcast) leads a conversation with me on all things time, attention and being in a hurry. Enjoy! Show Notes https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/baseline-intelligence-with-jonathan-stokke/id1602516705 (Baseline Intelligence Podcast) https://www.parkerklein.com/apps/7-levels-deep (7 Levels Deep) (find your why) Ruthless Elimination of Hurry - John Mark Comer

    #24 Build with Doug Stevenson - Hitchhiking to Hollywood, Storytelling that Sticks, Unseen Allies

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2022 66:22


    In this episode, we Build with Doug Stevenson. Doug is the founder and president of Story Theater International, a speaking, training and consulting company, now based in Tucson, Arizona. His company trains thousands of professionals and executives each year, for clients that include Microsoft, Amgen, Bayer, Caterpillar, Oracle, Volkswagen, Hewlett Packard, Maytag, Super 8 Motels and others. His association clients include The National Education Association, The American Medical Association, The National Association of Realtors, The Wisconsin Municipal League, The Cattleman's Beef Association and others. Since 1994, he has delivered keynotes and taught storytelling for business success in the US, Canada, Australia, Austria, Costa Rica, Colombia, Denmark, England, Germany, Ireland, Japan, Malaysia, Panama, Portugal, Singapore, Spain, Switzerland and The Netherlands. Doug used to believe he was destined to be the next Bob Hope. That was back in the 1960's when he was a child making up his mind about who he wanted to be. He dedicated 20 years of his life to becoming a successful actor, only to realize that his destiny was much greater and far more meaningful than being a movie star. Now, having spoken to audiences all over the world, and having coached and trained countless individuals on how to become amazing speakers, trainers and leaders – he's discovered that he isn't supposed to act like Bob Hope. His gift is the ability to give people hope. Doug is the creator of The Story Theater Method for strategic storytelling in business and author of the book by the same name. He is also the creator of The How to Write and Deliver a Dynamite Speech System, and the Next Level Storytelling Video eLearning Series. He not only presents transformational speeches, he follows them by analyzing what he has just done. Not only does he make you laugh and cry, he teaches you how he does it. It's as if he's a magician who does a wonderful magic trick, and then takes you behind the curtain and shows you all of his secrets. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/storytelling-that-sticks-for-business-and-life/id1608943658 (Check out Doug's Podcast here) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/8-origin-story-formula/id1608943658?i=1000556719592 (Check out Clay's favorite episode here) https://www.storytelling-in-business.com/about/ (Check out Doug's Website here) Enjoy!

    #23 Build with Ali Parsons - Giving Yourself Grace, Realities of Loneliness, Finding Your Work/Life Rhythm

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 59:23


    Ali is a graduate of Clemson University with a degree in Marketing. Ali then went on to hold 8 jobs across 8 different industries - all before the age of 30. Ali has now found her calling as the Director of Service Programming at https://www.coe22.com/ (The Church of Eleven22) (Jacksonville, FL) and is one of the hosts of the Podcast, https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deepen-with-pastor-joby-martin/id1559984586 (“Deepen with Pastor Joby Martin”. ) On this episode, Ali walks through her journey sharing her learnings about herself and life itself. She enforces the need to give yourself grace, the realities of loneliness, how important the first hour of the day is and what life is like without a microwave. Enjoy!

    #22 Build with Vivek Atluri - Life in Ukraine, Building Calculated Confidence, Journey From IBM to the Foreign Service

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2022 67:35


    Vivek Atluri is a Foreign Service Officer for the USAID, currently stationed in Cairo, Egypt. USAID is the lead U.S. Government agency that works to end extreme global poverty and enable resilient, democratic societies to realize their potential. This is done through protecting human rights, furthering education, strengthening democracy and advancing food security and agriculture. Prior to this, Vivek joined the Peace Corp and spent 2.5 years in Ukraine as a Community Based Developer where he worked with local organizations to increase their resilience and improve their community. Prior to his time in Ukraine, Vivek was a project management leader at IBM - which is where he and I met.  Vivek graduated from Ohio State University and subsequently received his MBA from Tulane University. Vivek is what I would consider “Worldly” as he grew up in India, has lived in 11 US cities, Ukraine, Egypt and speaks 7 languages.  In this episode, we chat about life in Ukraine, what it was like to leave a high paying job for the Peace Corp and how to have calculated confidence to pursue your goals.  Enjoy!

    #21 Build with Paola Soares - 5 second rule, 4 Steps to Overcoming Failure, Cuban Coffee

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2022 51:48


    Welcome to another episode of the Build with Clay podcast! Today we are going to build with Paola Soares (https://www.instagram.com/paola.soares_/?hl=en (@paola.soares_)). Paola, from Miami, Florida is a graduate from DePaul University. She is a former Journalist and National News Producer that has had stories appear on Univision, Telemundo ABC News, among others. Paola now hosts a top 50 business podcast called https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/but-first-she-failed-career-growth-women-entrepreneurs/id1556915172 (But First, She Failed Podcast) that focuses on career growth, women entrepreneurs, overcoming imposter syndrome, growth mindset and confidence. Paola is passionate about helping women gain confidence in their careers, businesses and overcome the fear failing that many times can be holding them back from living the life of their dreams. Show Notes https://jennakutcherblog.com/goal-digger-podcast/ (Gold digger Podcast) Episodes Covering the 4 Steps to Overcome Failure: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/24-overcoming-failure-pt-1-forgiveness-reflection/id1556915172?i=1000535406767 (Step 1) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/25-overcoming-failure-pt-2-renewing-your-mind-community/id1556915172?i=1000536264459 (Step 2) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/26-overcoming-failure-pt-3-dreaming-and-inspiration/id1556915172?i=1000536950684 (Step 3) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/27-season-2-finale-overcoming-failure-pt-4-taking-action/id1556915172?i=1000537723377 (Step 4) https://paolasoares.com/ (Paola's Website) Books References: The 5 Second Rule - Mel Robbins Atomic Habits - James Clear

    #20 Build with Mike Conlon - $700M in Real Estate, Leading with Gratitude, How to Take Risks

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2022 69:54


    Welcome to another episode of the Build with Clay Podcast. In this episode, we Build with Mike Conlon.  Mike is originally from Green Bay, WI. He received his law degree from the University of Minnesota in 1990. He was active in the financial planning business from 1990 through 2002 where he owned a financial planning broker-dealer that he grew from $1.6 million in revenue to over $40 million in five years.  Then Mike stepped out of the financial world and into the real estate world, which is where he and I met.  Mike is now the President and CEO of Affordable Communities Group, which owns thousands of affordable living units across the country and he is widely known as one of the most successful real estate investors in the country.  Mike is a philanthropist, giving back to many organizations including most recently a $1 million grant to Wake Technical Community College. The Conlon Venture Fund will support entrepreneurship and small business programs at Wake Tech, Shaw University and St. Augustine's University. Mike wrote Unconventional Wealth, a guide to becoming a millionaire by helping others get what they need.  In this episode, we discuss how Mike built a $700M real estate portfolio, how to lead with gratitude, how he defines wealth, becoming an entrepreneur, learning how to take risks and more. Enjoy! Show Notes: Books Referenced: Unconventional Wealth by Mike Conlon The Magic of Thinking Big by David Schwartz Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki

    #19 Build with Jahn Karsybaev - How to Actively Design your Day, Importance of No, Being OK with Discomfort

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022 53:25


    Jahn Karsybaev is a Technology Executive who has led IT teams for Fortune 500 companies. He is currently a Co-Founder and CIO at https://mybasepay.com/ (MyBasePay) and the host of the https://ivypodcast.com/ (Ivy Podcast). Jahn is an alumni of University of Montana, Nova Southeastern University and the Harvard Business School. Jahn has co-founded, launched, successfully sold as well as successfully failed several start-ups. He is an Angel Investor and sits on boards of several tech startups. He loves teaching angel investing, growth hacking & fundraising for startups.  Fund-raising is one of Jahn's strengths and passions. Cumulatively, he has successfully raised close to $70M for the startups he has launched or advised on. In this episode, we talk about how to build a legacy, why discomfort is ok and how companies need to radically change their hiring process or be left behind. Enjoy!  Show Notes  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahnibek/ (Find Jahn on LinkedIn) https://ivypodcast.com/episode/clay-davis-vp-of-global-data-iot-solutions-at-tech-data/ (Listen to my episode with Jahn on the Ivy Podcast) https://www.bennewmancoaching.com/your-mental-toughness-playbook (Your Mental Toughness Playbook) https://gimletmedia.com/shows/startup (StartUp Podcast)

    #18 Build with Stephen Philip Harvey - How to Compose Music, Orchestrating a Big Band, Time Travel

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2022 90:26


    Stephen Philip Harvey is a saxophonist, composer, arranger, and educator. As a musician and bandleader, Stephen has performed extensively in the US. Several projects under his belt include his electric quintet, Sphinx, his mid-sized jazz combo, SPH8, and his large ensemble the Stephen Philip Harvey Jazz Orchestra.  In 2016, he released his debut album as composer and bandleader: http://www.stephenpharvey.com/suite-childhood (Suite Childhood.) His follow-up album, http://www.stephenpharvey.com/smash (Smash!), releases on June 17, 2022. In this episode, we chat about his journey through music, the evolution of jazz, what it actually takes to compose music and how time travel should really work. Enjoy! Show Notes http://www.stephenpharvey.com/ (Stephen's Website) http://www.stephenpharvey.com/smash (Smash! Album) https://youtu.be/VbuQA_XPvqY (Smash! Sample) http://www.stephenpharvey.com/contact (Say Hello to Stephen)

    #17 Build with Parker Klein - Leaving Google, Discovering your Why, Developing Apps

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2022 74:52


    In this episode we Build with Parker Klein. Parker is a software and app developer and has created many apps you can find in your App Store including, but not limited to Twos, Muse and Aware. Parker is originally from San Diego is a graduate from Vanderbilt University with a degree in computer science. Parker has worked at Qualcomm, Trustwork, Google and is now focused on helping people simply remember things through his app and website, https://www.twosapp.com/ (Twos).  In this episode we hear about Parker's growth journey, what it's like to work at Google and how important it is to not only know our why, but how to live our why effectively. Enjoy! Notes Parker's Creations https://www.TwosApp.com (Two's) https://apps.apple.com/cz/app/tens-10-for-10/id1213386656 (Tens) https://www.awarepath.com/home (Aware) https://www.reflectwithmuse.com/home (Muse) http://www.7levelsdeep.com/ (7levelsdeep) https://www.parkerklein.com/ (ParkerKlien.com) Book Recommendations School of Greatness - Lewis Howes How Google Works - Eric Schmidt Exit Right - Mark Achler & Mert Iseri Meditations by Marcus Aurelius As a Man Thinketh by James Allen Other https://alyjuma.medium.com/the-regret-minimization-framework-how-jeff-bezos-made-decisions-4d5a86deaf24 (Regret minimization framework) https://www.linkedin.com/learning/?trk=sem_src.go-pa_c.LLS-C_NAMER_US_T1_EN-US_SEM_SEM_GoogleAds_NA_All_NA_NA_Core_NA_LIL-General-MKAG_Brand_Exact_pkw.linked%20in%20learning_pmt.e_pcrid.484112882068_pdv.c_plc._trgid.kwd-324270465588_net.g_learning (LinkedIn Learning) https://www.pluralsight.com/ (PluralSight.com)

    #16 Build with Carson Masterson - All Things Crypto, Defining Buzzwords and Real Life Use Cases

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2022 83:05


    Carson rejoins the Build with Clay Podcast in this all things Crypto episode. In episode 5, Build with Carson, the last 20 minutes was dedicated to explaining NFTs and Crypto and there was a lot of feedback from the listeners for us to expand the discussion - and that's what this episode is all about. No matter where you are in the crypto journey - we work to simplify and define a lot of the terms and buzzwords we hear all of the time in this ever changing ecosystem. The conversation is wide ranging and we balance between going deep and bringing things back to simplicity and real life use cases of the technology. Enjoy! Show Notes Below are a few things Carson references for more deep dives into the Crypto space http://podcast.banklesshq.com/ (Bankless podcast) https://time.com/6158182/vitalik-buterin-ethereum-profile/ (Time's Ethereum Article) https://relaychain.fm/ (Relay chain podcast) Sounds provided by zapsplat.com

    #15 [PART 2] Build with Madeline Derby - 5 Steps to Returning from Injury, Raising Your Self Awareness, Dealing with Fear

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2022 40:22


    **This is Part 2 - go to episode #14 for Part 1!** Madeline 'Mads' Derby is the Head Mental Performance Consultant (MPC) at https://www.insiderival.com/ (Inside Rival). Mads holds numerous credentials including Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Seton Hall University, Masters of Science in Exercise and Sports Science with a concentration in Sport Psychology from Ithaca College. She is a member of the Association for Applied Sport Psychology, has her Psychological First Aid from Johns Hopkins and has earned her Mountaineering Leadership and Guide Training from the International Wilderness Leadership School. Her mission is to coach athletes and high performers through mental skills training to improve their performance and reach their goals. Through strategic and evidence-based programming, Mads helps athletes: Create their edge Learn how to respond instead of react Get out of their heads so they can play confidently Focus when it matters the most.  On this episode Mads defines resiliency, she provides actionable steps on how to return from injury, how to raise your self awareness and much more!  This episode is broken into 2 parts. Here we go with part 1. Enjoy! Show Notes: Book recommendations: Sapiens (Yuval Noah Harari), Pureland (Zarrar Said), Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (Jonathan Safran Foer) Find Mads at www.insiderival.com info@insiderival.com https://www.instagram.com/insiderival/ Sound from Zapsplat.com

    #14 [PART 1] Build with Madeline Derby - 5 Steps to Returning from Injury, Raising Your Self Awareness, Dealing with Fear

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2022 51:21


    Madeline 'Mads' Derby is the Head Mental Performance Consultant (MPC) at https://www.insiderival.com/ (Inside Rival). Mads holds numerous credentials including Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Seton Hall University, Masters of Science in Exercise and Sports Science with a concentration in Sport Psychology from Ithaca College. She is a member of the Association for Applied Sport Psychology, has her Psychological First Aid from Johns Hopkins and has earned her Mountaineering Leadership and Guide Training from the International Wilderness Leadership School. Her mission is to coach athletes and high performers through mental skills training to improve their performance and reach their goals. Through strategic and evidence-based programming, Mads helps athletes: Create their edge Learn how to respond instead of react Get out of their heads so they can play confidently Focus when it matters the most.  On this episode Mads defines resiliency, she provides actionable steps on how to return from injury, how to raise your self awareness and much more!  This episode is broken into 2 parts. Here we go with part 1. Enjoy! Show Notes: Book recommendations: Sapiens (Yuval Noah Harari), Pureland (Zarrar Said), Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (Jonathan Safran Foer) Find Mads at www.insiderival.com info@insiderival.com https://www.instagram.com/insiderival/

    #13 Build with Whitney Davis - Parenting Struggles, The Power of Independence, Instilling a Growth Mindset in Kids

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2022 52:09


    In this episode, I chat with Whitney Davis - my wife of almost 9 years. Whitney and I met at UNC. After graduating with honors, Whitney decided the corporate world wasn't for her and went back to school to get her teaching license. She spent a few years teaching elementary age students and currently stays home with our kids. I'm a bit bias, but I think she's a heck of a mom to our kids and she's also been on her own growth mindset journey as a person and a parent - which I think listeners will find interesting. In this episode, Whitney highlights her struggles as a mom, shares advice she found the most helpful and how we try and instill a growth mindset in our kids. We both admit that we are far from perfect parents and we certainly are not experts. It's our hope you can find some joy and inspiration from the conversation. And if you pick up some advice along the way that seems useful - all the better. Sound from https://www.zapsplat.com/ (Zapsplat.com)

    #12 Build with David Knoeckel - What High School is Like Today, The Importance of Pressure, Why Getting an "F" is OK and Appreciating the Romans

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2022 64:13


    On this episode, I chat with David Knoeckel - a close friend I've known since college. David graduated with his masters in teaching from UNC Chapel Hill and is now a history and economics teacher at a high school in Colorado. His passion for Roman History and the other subjects he teachers paired with his unique teaching style earn him being constantly touted as one of the best teachers in the state.  I don't know about you, but it's been a long time since I was in high school, so on this episode we chat about what high school is like today, the importance of pressure and what Zac Efron and the Ancient Romans have in common. Enjoy!

    #11 Build with Jack Byrd - Developing Skills for Life, The Impact of Diverse Teams and a Story About Love Apples

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2022 56:31


    Jack Byrd is an Emeritus Professor of Industrial Engineering at West Virginia University (WVU). He has been on the engineering faculty at WVU since 1968 and has taught more students at the university than any other professor. Jack also serves as the President of the Interactivity Foundation - which aims to strengthen our democracy through the use of a small-group discussion process to explore diverse perspectives and generate an expanding set of divergent possibilities. Jack cares deeply about the mentorship of current and former students, which certainly comes through in this conversation. The impact he has made on former students is incalculable.  He has dedicated the last few years sharing his stories and thoughts around the growth of others - which is where he and I first crossed paths as one of my mentors, Mark Bidgood, was sharing Jack's newsletters and musings with me. After reading a few - I knew he would be a great guest. Lucky for me and the listeners, he graciously accepted my offer to be on the podcast. Enjoy! Show Notes Book Recommendation: Give and Take: A Revolutionary Approach to Success by Adam Grant Book Recommendation: The Americans (3 part series) by Daniel Boorstin Learn more about the https://www.interactivityfoundation.org/ (Interactivity Foundation) Find Jack on https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-byrd-1286455/ (LinkedIn)

    #10 Build with Benita Denney - Pandemic Stories from the Intensive Care Unit, Conversations about Death, Finding Happiness Amongst it All

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2022 64:42


    In this episode, I chat with Benita Denney. Benita is an avid rock climber and is a close friend who is gracious enough to share her experiences as a nurse practitioner in the Intensive Care Unit during the pandemic. She shares emotional stories from the front-lines, mistakes she learned from and how she and her colleagues have found happiness during a difficult chapter of life. Show Notes: Benita mentions numerous books and assets listed below Mindset - Dr. Carol Dweck The Gifts of Imperfection - Brene Brown Stumbling on Happiness - Daniel Gilbert Enneagram Personality Test Writing Gratitude Journals Each Day

    #9 Build with Rafael Amorim - Breaking World Records, Death Bed at Age 29 and the Dangers of Making Assumptions

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 67:19


    Rafael Amorim is from Brazil and has lived in 5 countries throughout his life. Rafa is an Entrepreneur, Tech Executive, 12x winner of the Brazil National Championships in Canoe Racing, a World Record holder and lover of anything on or around the water.  In this episode, Rafa shares his emotional journey of going from having a stroke at the age of 29 to breaking world records on the water. We talk about the dangers of making assumptions and how he views life after being on his death bed. Enjoy!

    Build with (5 year old) Hayes Davis - Defining Failure, The Power of Yet, What Our Family is All About

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2022 6:06


    **Bonus Episode!** My son Hayes steps behind the microphone to share his views on a growth mindset, tell a joke and tattle on his brother. Enjoy!

    #8 Build with Laura Purtell - Working at ESPN, The Power of "I Don't Know", Balancing Your Career as a New Parent

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2022 52:13


    Laura Purtell is a senior editor in ESPN's investigative unit. Before joining the investigative team in 2019, she was a senior editor for espnW, responsible for feature storytelling around women's sports. She joined ESPN in 2015 from Bloomberg News, where she was most recently the team leader for -- and helped create -- the group covering and tracking executive compensation. Previously, she covered Wall Street and banking as a reporter on Bloomberg's finance team. In this episode, we chat about what it's like to work at ESPN, how to manage imposter syndrome and how to balance motherhood with her career. Enjoy!

    #7 Build with Chad Olds - Finding Mentorship, Developing a Career Board of Directors, Working for a Start-up vs Big Company

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2022 93:52


    Chad Old is currently the VP of Sales at Anchore (Tech start-up). Chad began his career at Red Hat and then rose through the ranks holding leadership positions at IBM, SoftwareAG, Zaloni and now Anchore. Chad has a passion for building high performing sales organizations, mentoring others and has a proven track record in each of his executive positions. In this episode, we discuss mentorship (how to find a mentor, how to be a good mentee) and how to develop your career board of directors. Towards the end of the conversation, Chad shares his experiences when evaluating joining a large company vs a start up.

    #6 Build with Rick Lombardi - Leading From Your Core, Unconscious Bias, Servant Leadership

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2022 67:41


    Rick Lombardi is a former executive at The Dow Chemical Company. Rick led 1000's of employees through leadership training over his 36 year career. On this episode, Rick shares some of the key concepts of how to develop your leadership skills inside and outside of your career. Rick shares when he unearthed his unconscious biases and how we can be more aware of these biases to lead a more productive and fulfilled life.

    #5 Build with Carson Masterson - Applying Your Purpose to Your Job, Gifts From Death, Demystifying NFTs

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2021 95:47


    Carson Masterson lives in New York and has integrated himself into both the tech world and the art world. These worlds are converging in many ways and Carson has planted himself in the middle of it. Carson's "Why" is to create - which he does through videography, written content and photography. On this episode, Carson shares how he failed with a start-up company and how you can create your own role at a large company. At the end of the episode (1:07), Carson dives into the world of NFTs and attempts to demystify this emerging industry. You can find Carson on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/carsonmasterson/ (@CarsonMasterson) Show Notes Carson mentions the book Effortless by Greg Mckeown Carson mentions enjoying https://www.topochico.com// (Topo Chico) water

    #4 Build with Ryan Armstrong - Investing in Mobile Home Parks, How to Pick a Business Partner, Having a Bias for Action

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2021 79:19


    Ryan Armstrong is originally from New York, but moved to North Carolina at the start of his career. He has built a strong career in the tech industry and an impressive real estate and investment portfolio. On this episode, Ryan discusses how his actions are tied directly to his "why" and he uniquely defines what it means to have a growth mindset. Ryan provides tips on what to value when picking a business partner and how you can get into real estate. Show Notes Ryan mentions reading Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki Ryan mentions reading How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie You can find Ryan on Instagram @ryan_j_armstrong

    #3 Build with Allie White - Life as a Professional Golfer, Finding Your Process and an Explanation of Cuffing Season

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2021 95:27


    Allie White is a professional golfer from Ohio. Throughout her career, Allie has been redefining her mindset, habits and process as she aims to accomplish her goals as a pro. Over the last decade, Allie has played in 2 U.S. Opens and has been traveling the world making a living playing golf. On this episode, Allie discusses what it's like to be a professional golfer, how to define your goals and discover a process that works for you - no matter your passion. Show Notes: Allie recommends the poem: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45473/a-noiseless-patient-spider (A Noiseless Patient Spider by Walt Whitman) Allie references the book, Peak by Anders Ericsson You can find Allie at https://www.alliewhitegolf.com/ (https://www.alliewhitegolf.com/)

    #2 Build with Ryan Denney - Losing 100 Pounds, Dealing with Setbacks and Finding Clarity Through Meditation

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2021 67:00


    Ryan Denney is a Son, Husband, Brother, Dog Lover and Financial Advisor residing in North Carolina. In this episode, Ryan shares his views on what a growth mindset is and how he applied it to lose 100 pounds and find a greater purpose in his life. Show Notes: Ryan recommends Mindset by Dr. Carol Dweck to learn more about a growth mindset Ryan uses the meditation app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ten-percent-happier-meditation/id992210239 (Ten Percent Happier) Ryan references eating Yasso Bars and Popcorn during his weight loss

    #1 Build with Jonathan Stokke - How to Make Good Errors, How Not to Provide a Urine Sample and Coaching with Purpose

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2021 87:37


    Jonathan Stokke is a former professional tennis player and currently a top tennis coach in the United States. On this episode, Stokke shares his growth journey through tennis, his coaching philosophy and how he inspires growth in his players no matter their skill level.  You can find Stokke on Instagram @stokketennis and check out his Tennis podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/baseline-intelligence-with-jonathan-stokke/id1602516705 (Baseline Intelligence with Jonathan Stokke). Show Notes: Stokke references Peak by Anders Ericsson

    Introduction to the Build with Clay Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 1:43


    Welcome! I'm glad you're here! This podcast is designed to introduce you to people from across the world who have one thing in common: they want to grow in their life and inspire others. You'll get a front row seat to hear about how they define their mindset and their purpose. We'll unearth their habits, failures and learnings throughout their journey. This will allow you to take those habits, failures and learnings and apply them to your personal growth journey - no matter where you're trying to build yourself and grow. In addition to this podcast, you can subscribe to the Build with Clay newsletter here.

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