Podcasts about Arts administration

In this episode, I sat down one of my dream guests… fellow podcaster Ben Luke, contributing editor of The Art Newspaper and presenter of its podcasts ‘A brush with...' and ‘The Week in Art'. I speak to Ben about his background and the path that brought him to one of the art world's most prominent publications. We talk about the podcasts he hosts at TAN (The Art Newspaper), how they came about, and what it actually looks like to build something from within an existing institution rather than going independent.I ask him about any potential trade-offs of an intrapreneurial approach: the perks, the constraints, and what anyone thinking of pitching a project to their employer might want to consider. We also speak in depth about his book, What is Art For?. I ask him how it came together, why he chose to weave contemporary artist interviews with historical reflections, and how he approaches the art of the interviewing as a method in itself.Thank you Ben for coming on the podcast!- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

When revenue goals aren't being met, it's natural to look at pricing. Should tickets cost more? How high is too high? Should we discount more often? Are ticket prices driving audiences away?   But what if price isn't the place to start? In Part 1 of this two-part conversation on demand, we step back to explore one of the most important questions facing arts organizations today: What actually drives demand? Join the TRG team as they examine the difference between demand and pricing, challenge some common assumptions about audience behavior, and discuss why organizations often spend too much time focused on ticket prices and not enough time understanding what makes people want to attend in the first place. Along the way, you'll hear practical insights about audience perception, the role of value and relevance, and why strong demand is built long before someone reaches the purchase page. This episode lays the foundation for the conversation ahead. Before organizations can influence demand, they need to understand how it works, what shapes it, and why it plays such a critical role in long-term revenue growth. In Part 2, we'll take the next step, exploring how organizations can identify demand signals, evaluate performance throughout the sales cycle, and make more intentional decisions about pricing, pacing, and revenue strategy. Key Takeaways: • Why demand and pricing are not the same thing, and why the distinction matters. • How audience interest, perception, and relevance influence attendance long before price enters the conversation. • Why pricing often responds to demand rather than creating it. • The role audience behavior plays in shaping revenue outcomes. • How perceptions of value and success influence purchasing decisions. • Why discounting isn't always the answer to revenue challenges. • What arts leaders should understand about demand before making pricing decisions. • The foundation organizations need in place before they can actively manage and influence demand. 

What exactly is a biennale, and why do they matter in the art world? In this solo episode, I'm breaking down one of the art world's most iconic and contested formats, from its origins at the very first Venice Biennale in 1895 to the sprawling, politically charged mega-exhibitions we know today.In the episode, we move through the history of how biennales evolved from nationalist showcases into curator-led events grappling with postcolonial discourse, identity politics, and climate change. I then touch on some of the most influential editions across Venice, São Paulo, Kassel, and beyond. We get into the controversies, including the the Dana Schutz and Open Casket debate at the 2017 Whitney Biennial, the board resignation that followed artist protests in 2019, and the antisemitism scandal that overshadowed Documenta 15 in 2022.Sources:Paintings from the Venice Biennale – ListoryIn 1895, the 1st Venice Biennale faces its first censorship scandal – Arte BrasileirosThe Dana Schutz Emmett Till painting controversy at the Whitney Biennial – The GuardianWarren Kanders resigns from Whitney Museum board – The New York TimesStatement by Taring Padi on dismantling People's Justice – Documenta FifteenWho Killed the Independent Curator? – Frieze- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

Most arts organizations can tell you their revenue targets. Fewer can clearly identify the relationships that will deliver them. As financial pressure continues across the sector, many organizations focus on short-term income. But as this episode explores, revenue doesn't happen in isolation. It's built through strengthening audience relationships over time. This conversation introduces TRG's core relationship framework: Tryers, Buyers, and Advocates. It explores how organizations can better understand the behaviors already inside their CRM systems and use those insights to build stronger loyalty and more sustainable revenue. The TRG team also introduces four strategic focus areas that shape the season ahead: Recency, Demand, People, and Discipline — practical ways organizations can strengthen audience engagement and improve long-term financial stability. At the center of the conversation is a simple idea: organizations that focus intentionally on relationships are better positioned to navigate uncertainty, grow loyalty, and build sustainable revenue. Key Takeaways to Put Into Action: Revenue is built through relationships: Tickets, donations, memberships and subscriptions are outcomes of audience behavior over time. Your future revenue is rooted in past behavior: The people most likely to return may already be in your database. Not all relationships need the same approach: Tryers, Buyers, and Advocates each require different strategies and levels of investment. Frequency starts with recency: The sooner audiences re-engage, the more sustainable loyalty becomes. People-based planning creates clarity: Understanding audience behavior helps organizations forecast more accurately and prioritize resources more effectively. Discipline drives results: Sustainable growth requires consistent focus, accountability, and action. 

Boats passing, waves lapping along the sides of buildings in the city of canals… and I am sitting outside the Icelandic Pavilion, peeking into the Pocket Universe created by artist Ásta Fanney Sigurðardóttir. For this Biennale Exclusive episode, I speak to Ásta about her work and the exhibition she created for this year's Venice Biennale In Minor Keys, but I also got to speak to Cecilie Ragnheiðardóttir Gaihede, the Director of the Icelandic Art Centre, and the co-curator of Pocket Unviverse, Margrét Áskelsdóttir. I ask them about their roles, what the experience has been like to put together a national pavilion for an international stage, why it's important to participate in the Venice Biennale as a nation, and so much more.- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/

Karen Schakarov joined Monarch in January 2024. As Chief Marketing Officer, Karen is responsible for leading strategic marketing initiatives and enhancing the Monarch brand to drive growth and value for all stakeholders. Prior to joining Monarch, Karen was President and founder of ES&SY Group, where for two decades she drove growth and innovation for clients such as Toyota, JFK International Airport, JetBlue, and Sony. She led the development of a corporate culture program for JFK's $2.5 billion expansion and created philanthropic initiatives for Toyota/Lexus.  Her strategic programs have also increased brand awareness for non-profits like City of Hope and the Tiger Woods Foundation. Prior to ES&SY Group, Karen was Vice President of Marketing at Caesarstone US, where she transformed the brand into a market leader. Under her guidance, Caesarstone's brand awareness increased by 40% year-over-year, and company revenue grew by 500%. She managed high-profile celebrity partnerships and secured extensive media coverage, achieving 1.7 billion media impressions in 2015. Karen holds a Bachelor of Arts in Arts Administration from New York University.

Arts leaders are under increasing pressure: financial, operational, and cultural. So, what does it look like to respond differently? In this bonus episode of Leading the Way, Jill Robinson speaks with Christina Littlejohn, CEO of the Arkansas Symphony Orchestra, about choosing growth when contraction might seem like the safer option. Facing a significant financial gap, Christina made a deliberate decision to invest in audiences, accessibility, and experience rather than scale back. That choice helped build momentum, expand audiences, increase revenue, and strengthen long-term sustainability.  At the center of the conversation is a clear idea: What happens inside the concert hall drives everything else. From fuller feeling houses to stronger donor confidence, Christina shares how audience experience, frequency, and belonging connect directly to revenue and philanthropy.  The episode also explores: Why an abundance mindset matters in moments of pressure  How membership and accessibility increase engagement and loyalty  The role of data, pricing, and segmentation in shaping behavior  Why investing in teams and skills is critical to execution  This is a practical example of entrepreneurial leadership in action where consistent, people-focused decisions compound over time to change outcomes. Listen to our related episode: Leading Through Disruption: The Entrepreneurial Mindset Arts Organizations Need NowFor more insights, all past episodes, and to sign up for our newsletter, visit trgarts.com/leadingtheway Contact Info:  Email letstalk@trgarts.com 

Instagram Reel Guest Name: Cam Sleeper, Senior. Social Media Video Producer, Northeastern University Guest Socials:LinkedInInstagram  Guest Bio:  Cam Sleeper is an award-winning Senior Social Media Video Producer for Northeastern University. Over six years, he has built the university's TikTok presence from the ground up and produced platform-spanning content whose videos have earned tens of millions of engagements. Sleeper has been at Northeastern since 2019, where he also earned his M.S. in Arts Administration, after receiving a B.A. in Visual Media Arts from Emerson College. He is the proud caretaker of more than 30 houseplants. - - - -Connect With Our Host:Jenny Li Fowlerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jennylifowler/https://twitter.com/TheJennyLiAbout The Enrollify Podcast Network:Confessions of a Higher Ed Social Media Manager is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you'll like other Enrollify shows too! Enrollify is made possible by Element451 — The AI Workforce Platform for Higher Ed. Learn more at element451.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

ALL ABOUT ART TURNED 5 in April !!! On April 2nd, 2021, deep in Covid lockdowns, I decided to launch the pod. Now, in 2026, here we are - with a global audience spanning over 115 countries, thousands of downloads and monthly listeners, collaborations with institutions and amazing cultural professionals, and… A BOOK DEAL.I started this podcast because I had no idea what working in the art world actually looked like. My university wasn't telling me, career services wasn't telling me, books weren't telling me, so I started asking people directly and wanted to record it all.To commemorate 5 years of All About Art AND the launch of my book Working in Art: How to build a career in the art world all within the span of a week, in this special episode, I share five lessons drawn from over 130 conversations with museum directors, curators, gallerists, art handlers, auction house specialists, and more.There's also a lot I wish someone had just told me a decade ago when I was starting out in the arts, which is, honestly, the reason the book exists. Working in Art is the first book written specifically for people who want to work in the art world but aren't making art themselves. No equivalent existed when I was starting out, and it should have…. so now, it does

What Is an Art Foundation, Actually?The word “foundation” appears quite frequently in the art world, but I feel like most people, including those already working in the sector, would perhaps struggle to define what one actually is. This episode attempted to tackle that definition, and it may have clarified some things, but I also think it made things more confusing.

Why Adaptability, Relationships, and People Will Define the Next Era of Arts Leadership Arts leaders today are navigating constant disruption. Economic pressure, rapid technological change, and shifting audience behavior have made the environment far more complex than the one many arts organizations were originally built for. Many institutions are still operating on 20th-century funding models while facing 21st-century realities.  So the question becomes: what distinguishes organizations that adapt and grow from those that struggle? This episode explores the leadership mindset behind resilient organizations. The leaders who are thriving aren't waiting for stability to return. They use disruption as a signal to examine the cracks in their foundation (from programming and technology to staffing models and audience relationships) and they invest intentionally to strengthen those areas.  The conversation highlights three core ideas: Entrepreneurial agility is no longer optional. The sector has experienced continuous change, from digital transformation to the pandemic, and leaders must keep learning, testing, and adjusting. People are the most controllable driver of sustainability. Organizations cannot control government funding or macroeconomic conditions, but they can invest in relationships with audiences, donors, and staff.  Discipline turns strategy into results. The organizations emerging stronger are the ones that align teams, act on data, and consistently execute their plans. Leadership today requires more than operational management. It requires curiosity, courage, and the willingness to rethink long-standing assumptions about how arts organizations operate. 

From Collector to Founder: Elisa Nuyten on Building The Vega FoundationIn this episode, I sat down with Elisa Nuyten, founder of The Vega Foundation, a Toronto-based organization dedicated to artists' film and video.I speak to Elisa about what her foundation does - supporting a medium that many of us love but that often exists in the margins of the art world. We talk about her journey from collector to foundation founder, including the practical realities of launching a foundation - the building blocks, the governance structures, and why she chose Toronto and Canada as home base.I ask her about specific works from her collection that have shaped how she approaches the arts today, and why she felt compelled to focus specifically on moving image practices despite - or perhaps because of - the challenges this medium presents for collecting and display. We talk about how the Vega Foundation has evolved over its first three years, the psychology of supporting experimental work, the unseen infrastructure that makes artists' film and video possible, and so much more.Thank you Elisa for coming on the podcast!You can follow The Vega Foundation on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/thevegafoundation/You can check out The Vega Foundation's website here: https://www.thevegafoundation.com/- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

All About the Girl host Jenny Craig-Brown sits down with Kat Lutze, founder and owner of Alley Kat's Curiosity Shoppe, a community-driven retail space that features local artists, curators, and small business owners! A Valparaiso native, Kat started her entrepreneurial journey in 2014 after purchasing the remaining inventory of a lampshade factory. What began as online and local resale quickly evolved into something much bigger. Jenny and Kat explore all this and so much more in this month's episode of AATG, along with a special announcement from Jenny!Biography: Kat Lutze is the owner and creative force behind Alley Kat's Curiosity Shoppe, a community-driven retail space in Valparaiso, Indiana that features local artists, curators, and small business owners.A Valparaiso native, Kat started her entrepreneurial journey in 2014 after purchasing the remaining inventory of a lampshade factory. What began as online and local resale quickly evolved into something much bigger. By reinvesting her profits through auctions and outlets, she built a thriving resale business rooted in accessibility and quality secondhand goods for her community.In 2016, Kat launched a membership program designed not just to rent space to vendors — but to mentor, support, and grow small businesses from the inside out. Today, Alley Kat's has grown from just 10 members to nearly 50, operating out of a building she purchased in 2018. Unlike traditional vendor malls, Kat's model centers on the people behind the products, offering mentorship, marketing support, and a true small business community.With a background in theater and film and a degree in Arts Administration from Augsburg College, Kat blends artistic vision with business strategy — helping creatives turn passion into sustainable success.Deeply committed to Valparaiso, she also hosts free community events including Kids Day Scavenger Hunts, reading programs, and interactive activities designed to bring people together.When she's not working at the Shoppe, you can find Kat reading a good book, playing board games with friends, hiking at the dunes, or developing her newest venture, “Unplugged Events,” a startup encouraging people to disconnect from their phones and reconnect in real life.Kat believes that small businesses thrive when people feel seen, supported, and connected — and she's building spaces where exactly that can happen.GreatNews.Life & Podcast Host Jenny Craig-Brown have transformed the All About the Girls annual event into a podcast! These monthly episodes feature incredible women giving the audience all the insight about what makes them happy, successful, and motivational. New episodes launch on Sundays to make sure to start your week on a positive note! The All About the Girls Podcast is brought to you by GreatNews.Life GreatNewsLife looks to form positive, online communities centered around the idea that, given the option, viewers prefer to see all the good things going on in their community, as opposed to negative news. Here you'll find exclusively positive, hyper-local stories, features, and news touting everything exceptional about the communities that make up Northwest Indiana. We invite you to partake in the Region's only source for all-positive news, all the time. Watch it. Love it. Share it.

This week's episode of All About Art talks about money

Welcome to Art is Awesome, the show where we talk with an artist or art worker with a connection to the San Francisco Bay Area. Today, Emily features San Francisco wire sculptor Kristine Mays discussing her politically charged exhibition "State of the Union" at Modernism Gallery. Created in response to the uncertainty and division at the beginning of 2025, the show explores themes of American identity, social justice, and individual responsibility through intricate wire sculptures.Kristine walks through several powerful pieces: "This is America," a frayed wire American flag with beads representing blood and tears; "Human Complacency," depicting the see/hear/speak no evil concept; and "Modern Day Lynchings and Hashtag Memorials," featuring hand-embroidered names of Black people killed by police on silk ribbons. Many works incorporate quotes from writers like Audre Lord, whose words "your silence will not save you" inspired Mays to create this body of work as both political statement and personal healing.She traces her creative journey from childhood craft projects with her mother to her current practice working with construction-grade wire. She explains how she creates faceless figures and sculptural garments that allow viewers to project their own stories and recognize loved ones through gesture alone. The meditative quality of working with wire and its durability appeal to her desire to create lasting legacy work.A major milestone: the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture recently acquired her piece "Hush Harbor." Kristine, who has participated in San Francisco Open Studios for over 20 years, credits her "divinely led" journey and her mother's early encouragement to create without fear of failure.About Artist Kristine Mays :Kristine Mays, a San Francisco native has been an exhibiting artist since 1993. She was the Grand Finale Winner in 2015 of the 5th Annual Bombay Sapphire Artisan Series National Competition. This competition not only provided an opportunity to exhibit her work at Art Basel Miami, but she had a solo exhibition at the Scope NYC Art Fair as well, and was also afforded a chance to collaborate on a large scale public mural. Her mural is on the side of the Boom Boom Room in San Francisco on Fillmore and Geary Streets. (It has large wire feathers placed among the portraits that adorn the walls, reflecting the fleeting existence of black jazz musicians in San Francisco.) In 2015 she also participated in the Hearts in San Francisco program, creating a large 400 pound heart for their annual public art installation. The heart spent a few weeks on display in Union Square before going to its final home upon purchase from AT&T.In 2009, Kristine was a featured artist in the San Francisco Art Commission's "Art in Storefronts" pilot program, a project which transformed vacant storefronts and commercial corridors into a destination for contemporary art, bringing a new energy to the Bayview Hunters Point neighborhood. A participant in the San Francisco Open Studios program for over 20 years, Kristine has also served on the Board of Directors for ArtSpan-- the Producers of SF Open Studios and has participated on several of their committees. Kristine served as the 2011-2013 artist-in-residence at the Bayview Hunters Point Shipyard in San Francisco. She is a graduate of Lowell High School, received her Bachelor Degree in Arts Administration from DePaul University and has occasionally served as a grant review panelist through the San Francisco Arts Commission.Seeking to create impact and change with her art, Kristine has participated in raising thousands of dollars for AIDS research through the sale of her work by collaborating with organizations like Visual Aid, the San Francisco Alliance Health Project and WE-Actx. Her work has received local and national press including mentions in the San Francisco Chronicle, New York Times, The New York Post, The Washington Post, Source Magazine, Artsy, and the interior design blog Apartment Therapy. She is represented by Simon Breitbard Fine Arts in SF, the Richard Beavers Gallery in Brooklyn and Zenith Gallery in Washington DC.Kristine has participated in programming at the De Young Museum, Museum of African Diaspora (MoAD) and exhibited at the California African American Museum (CAAM) in Los Angeles, CA. Collectors of her work include an eclectic mix of people including Star Wars creator George Lucas and the dearly departed Peggy Cooper Cafritz (who amassed one of the country's largest private collections of African-American art). Her work is displayed in many Bay Area homes and private collections throughout the USA.Visit Kristine's Website:  KristineMays.comFollow Kristine on Instagram: @KristineMaysFor more about Kristine's exhibit, "State of the Union" CLICK HERE--About Podcast Host Emily Wilson:Emily a writer in San Francisco, with work in outlets including Hyperallergic, Artforum, 48 Hills, the Daily Beast, California Magazine, Latino USA, and Women's Media Center. She often writes about the arts. For years, she taught adults getting their high school diplomas at City College of San Francisco.Follow Emily on Instagram: @PureEWilFollow Art Is Awesome on Instagram: @ArtIsAwesome_Podcast--CREDITS:Art Is Awesome is Hosted, Created & Executive Produced by Emily Wilson. Theme Music "Loopster" Courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 LicenseThe Podcast is Co-Produced, Developed & Edited by Charlene Goto of @GoToProductions. For more info, visit Go-ToProductions.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most arts organizations can tell you their revenue targets. Fewer can name the segments, behaviors and people that will actually deliver them.When financial pressure rises, leaders default to revenue buckets: tickets, subscriptions, donations. But as this episode makes clear, those buckets don't buy tickets. People do.This conversation reframes budgeting through a People lens. Revenue is not a line item. It's the outcome of relationships, shaped by segments including recency, frequency, and behavior over time. When you shift from revenue-based planning to relationship-based planning, you gain clarity: where growth is possible, where risk is hiding, and what must change to hit your goals.We explore why annual planning often falls short, how multi-year pipeline thinking changes investment decisions, and what it really means to hold teams accountable for relationship metrics, not just financial outcomes. This episode challenges leaders to move beyond hopeful projections and toward people-driven strategy, so financial plans become proactive, measurable, and sustainable. Key Takeaways to Put Into Action:Revenue goals are made of relationships: If you can't name the segments and behaviours driving your target, you're probably guessing.You inherit your pipeline, you don't invent it: Short-term targets are shaped by years of past behavior. Budgeting must reflect that reality.Segmentation is a leadership tool, not just a marketing tactic: New, active, lapsed, multi-buyers - each requires different investment decisions.Multi-year planning reduces risk: Annual planning without pipeline metrics creates financial blind spots .Accountability must connect to ‘people metrics': Clear ownership of relationship-driven KPIs makes growth achievable, and shared across teams .

The Truth About Art World Careers: Inside Talent, Hiring, & Strategic Navigation with former co-managing partner of Sophie Macpherson Ltd.In this episode, I sat down with Rosie Allan, former co-Managing Partner of Sophie Macpherson, a leading recruitment firm specializing in the art market.I speak to Rosie about her journey into art world talent and recruitment, and what drew her to this particular corner of the industry. We talk about the groundbreaking Art Market Talent Reports that Sophie Macpherson has released over the past few years - research that has sparked essential conversations about working conditions, career pathways, and structural challenges across the sector.I ask her about the UK Employment Rights Bill and what it actually means for people working in galleries, auction houses, and museums today. We discuss what a strategic job search looks like in the current landscape, how the process differs between the US and UK art markets, and what mid-level professionals can do to convince employers they're ready for senior roles.We also talk about career progression in an industry where traditional advice doesn't always apply, Rosie's decision to step down as co-managing partner after years with the company, and so much more.Thank you Rosie for coming on the podcast!You can follow Sophie Macpherson Ltd on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/smlsearch/You can follow Rosie here:https://www.instagram.com/rosieallan_art/You can check out SML's website here: https://www.sophiemacpherson.com/- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

From Tip Jars to Patreon: Rebuilding Arts Funding from the Ground Up?This week's episode of All About Art tackles “patronage”, but on the micro scale. You've surely seen it before: “Buy me a Ko-Fi!” “Support me on Patreon!” and more - the latter of which you hear every time to tune into an episode of All About Art, because these sites allow your community to show support for the work they love and engage with.So, using FOLLOW.ART's Support My Practice feature as one of my case studies, I dive deeper into the initiatives helping reshape how creative work gets funded. I explore why these models emerged, what they're replacing, and what it actually feels like to ask for support as a creator, especially when you are juggling so many other platforms (spoiler: it's complicated!).I also share some personal reflections on running this podcast for the last five years, the mental & emotional tax of self-promotion, and why £3 a month from one listener can make all the difference. So, whether you're a creator navigating these platforms (FOLLOW.ART is for curators and artists specifically), or you're someone who's wondered if those small contributions actually matter, or maybe you're just curious about the future of creative sustainability, this episode offers a little bit of an overview of where we are and where we might be heading with micro-patronage. You can follow FOLLOW.ART on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/followart.world/You can check out FOLLOW.ART's website here: https://follow.art/ℹ️ #paidpartnership with FOLLOW.ART- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

How Curators & Artists Are Supported In The Digital Age, with Evelina Gorbačova, Head of Digital Development at FOLLOW.ARTFOLLOW.ART is a platform working to reshape how artists and curators connect in the digital age - You should listen in if you are interested in working at the intersection of art and technology, working at a startup compared to more traditional roles in either tech or the art world, or you are an artist and/or curator wanting to find digital career support online. We talk about the exclusions that curators and artists face in existing digital ecosystems - how they're often left out or underserved by platforms that weren't built with their needs in mind - and how FOLLOW.ART is trying to address those gaps. I ask her about the Nexus Card, a digital identity format that the team describes as "the heart of FOLLOW.ART," and why they chose to build this rather than just another social media profile or portfolio site. We discuss the technical challenges of combining physical art world interactions with digital infrastructure, how the team thinks about balancing accessibility with building a sustainable business, and so much more.Thank you Evelīna for coming on the podcast and FOLLOW.ART for the partnership!You can follow FOLLOW.ART on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/followart.world/You can check out FOLLOW.ART's website here: https://follow.art/ℹ️ #paidpartnership with Follow.Art- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

Why Experience, Access, and Perception Drive Audience Behavior  When demand for performances softens or fluctuates, the pressure inside arts organizations intensifies. Leaders feel it in budgets, board conversations, staff morale, and the constant urge to “do something” to influence sales. Too often, that something is discounting, comping, or quietly pulling back on the audience experience.This episode challenges that reflex, and re-frames demand not as something organizations either “have” or “don't,” but as something leaders can actively manage through experience, access, and perception. Demand is rarely at the extremes. Most organizations live in the middle, where leadership decisions matter most.We explore how common tactics used to “dress the house” can create long-term consequences: weaker loyalty, diluted pricing power, reduced frequency, and internal misalignment. Rather than chasing sell-outs or using price as a shortcut, this conversation invites leaders to protect the real value of the work by managing access, signaling success, and prioritizing experience so today's decisions strengthen relationships instead of quietly working against them.Key Takeaways to Put Into Action:Demand is something to manage, not wait for: Most organizations already have demand. The question is how leadership decisions shape it over time.Experience matters most when demand feels soft: Pulling back on hospitality and energy sends powerful signals to your most loyal audiences.Access shapes perception before price does: Scale plans, seat availability, and early access influence how audiences interpret value.Comps are currency, not filler: Unmanaged complimentary tickets quietly undermine perceived demand and future behavior.Success is more than a sell-out: Protecting perception and experience builds loyalty, frequency, and long-term revenue.For more insights, past episodes, and to sign up for our newsletter, visit trgarts.com/leadingtheway Contact Info:  Email letstalk@trgarts.com 

Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background of Darnelle Radford04:37 Darnelle's Journey into Theater09:08 The Importance of Live Theater13:33 Theater as a Community Experience18:21 Challenges in the Theater Industry23:03 The Future of Theater and New Works27:33 Darnelle's New Role at Theater Philadelphia32:05 Closing Thoughts and ReflectionsABOUT DARNELLE RADFORDDarnelle Radford is a Philadelphia-based theater producer, media entrepreneur, and arts administrator with a significant presence in the local theater community. He is the founder of Represented Theatre Company and Em3ry, a media company that produces podcasts like the Broad Street Review Podcast, Rep Radio, The Business of Theater, A Working Title where he hosts or co-hosts the shows. He is the outgoing Director of Operations at Theatre Exile, South Philadelphia's only theater company. Radford's work often involves supporting and promoting the arts, including managing technical systems and producing arts-focused content.Darnelle has also worked in cultural organizations such as The Franklin Institute, Philadelphia Art Museum, Freedom Theatre, Historic Philadelphia, Inc., The College of Physicians of Philadelphia and the COVID Containment Division of The City of Philadelphia's Health Department.Darnelle studied Multimedia and Web Design at the Art Institute of Philadelphia and Arts Administration at New York University.ABOUT THEATRE PHILADELPHIATheatre Philadelphia unites, celebrates, and promotes the Philadelphia region's diverse and growing theatre community. We lead efforts that expand audiences and engage the public to participate in this community's work. Theatre Philadelphia envisions an equitable and inclusive region that champions and nurtures local artists. We aim to raise our city's profile as a world-class city and enrich the lives of Philadelphia-area citizens.FOR MORE INFORMATION: https://theatrephiladelphia.org/about-theatre-philadelphia

The Great Art Fraud: Performance, Pretty Privilege & an $86 Million ScandalThis week's episode of All About Art dives into one of the biggest recent scandals in contemporary art. It's based on my recent experience watching the BBC's The Great Art Fraud, which chronicles Inigo Philbrick's spectacular $86 million fraud that shook the art world to its core.I discuss a range of factors that led to this happening, from the halo effect and “pretty privilege” to the culture of opacity that still defines high-value art deals. I explore how Philbrick sold a lifestyle as much as he sold art - and how the BBC's documentary, perhaps unintentionally, keeps that performance of glamor alive.We discuss the gaps in regulation, the role of symbolic capital in luxury markets, and why the documentary's hero's journey framing (I explain why I think its framed like this) feels kind of uncomfortably forgiving. Will the art world forget this scandal and engage in art deals with Philbrick in the future? It sure did feel like it towards the end…If you've watched the series or are fascinated by the intersection of psychology, performance, and market failure, I would love for you to have a listen & leave a comment to share your thoughts!Image & Media CreditsJay Jopling photograph: Oli Scarff / Getty Images, via Artnet NewsKenny Schachter image: Courtesy of Sotheby'sInigo Philbrick image: Getty Images, via The New York TimesThe Great Art Fraud promotional artwork: BBCAdditional images (if applicable): Courtesy KennySchachter.artImage & Source CreditsThis episode includes images sourced from Getty Images, Sotheby's, The New York Times, the BBC, and KennySchachter.art. Images are presented solely for purposes of criticism, commentary, news reporting, and education. All copyrighted material remains the property of its respective rights holders. No copyright infringement is intended. Images are displayed at reduced resolution and only for the duration necessary to support commentary.

The Mind Control of Mount Making with Alex Abbott, Director of DauphinIn this episode, I sat down with Alex Abbott, Art Consultant and Director of Dauphin, a company that specializes in displays and mounts.I speak to Alex about what his company does - which a lot of you have certainly come into contact with but not been fully aware of. Alex does the unseen work of ensuring the objects we view and love in museums, galleries, and homes are mounted with safety and care. That ancient jug you saw last week at the Museum of Natural History? That was mounted and tilted at a 40 degree angle by Alex and his team, but his main objectives are not to impress the viewer with his skills of mounting a work of art or history - his objective is that his work remains as invisible as possible while keeping whatever it is he is working with, safe. I speak to Alex about the artworks he has worked with in the past, including Barbara Heptworth sculptures and suits of armor. I ask him what sort of things need to be considered when consulting on how works of art or objects should be displayed, and also what its like to be director of a company at quite a young age - he took the helm of Dauphin at just 25 years old. We talk about the psychology of displays, the unseen work of mount makers in the arts, so much more. Thank you Alex for coming on the podcast!You can follow Dauphin on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/dauphinacrylic/You can check out Dauphin here: https://www.dauphin.co.uk/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

My forthcoming book Working in Art has officially beeen announced as available for pre-order, with publication coming in April 2026.So, on this week's episode of All About Art, I walk you through what went into creating this book - the travel to 9 cities across 5 countries, the interviews with arts professionals I deeply admire, and the honest moments of self-doubt along the way. I explain why I felt this book needed to exist: the arts and cultural sector contributes £19.1 billion to the UK economy annually, yet fewer than 8 state schools offer History of Art at A-level. How are young people supposed to know what career paths are available if we don't show them?This episode is more personal than usual. I talk about the process of organizing interviews, editing down lengthy transcripts, and working through the fear of whether my own writing was good enough. I also share who this book is for - whether you're considering entering the arts sector, already working in it, or simply curious about the range of careers that exist beyond artist or gallerist.You can pre-order the book here: https://www.alexandrasteinacker.com/bookYOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

New episode of ‘All About Art': Designing a Fair Marketplace for Artists and Collectors with Bibi Zavieh, Founder of newcubeIn this episode, I sat down with Bibi Zavieh, Founder of newcube.art, an artist platform and art advisory.I speak to Bibi about her experiences at Christie's and ArtNet before she ventured into entrepreneurship and launched newcube right before the covid lockdowns.I ask her about how she works with both artists as well as collectors, and how this new business model fits into the art ecosystem. We delve into what it means to collect art today, to gain art market expertise and develop an “eye”, so much more. Thank you Bibi for coming on the podcast!You can follow newcube  on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/newcube.art/?hl=enYou can check out newcube here: https://www.newcube.art/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com

In the arts world, success isn't just about bringing in new people; it's about building long-lasting relationships with the ones you already have. The key to sustainability lies not in finding more first-time visitors, but in building strategies to inspire your existing audience to return again and again (and again).This episode explores why frequency, or deepening the rate at which customers come back, is the most powerful strategy for arts organizations.Key Takeaways to Put Into Action:Are Subscriptions Really Dead? No, but the mindset is. Subscriptions, memberships, CYOs and flex passes all still work when they're tools for one thing: driving frequency.Prioritize Returning Patrons: Focus on retaining loyal patrons, as they are your most reliable source of long-term success.Recency Leads to Frequency: Get people back sooner; it's the first step toward loyalty and one of the simplest, most powerful growth levers you have.Build Recurring Revenue: Prioritize audience return rates to create steady, repeatable revenue instead of relying on occasional sales.Organizational Alignment Drives Growth: Align marketing, development, and box office teams to create a unified strategy that nurtures long-term engagement.For more insights, past episodes, and to sign up for our newsletter, visit trgarts.com/leadingtheway Contact Info:  Email letstalk@trgarts.com 

Hot Take / Art Break: Why the Art World's Tech-Phobia Is Burning Us Out (video podcast)This week, I'm tackling a question that might make some people uncomfortable: Why does the art world resist technology?We celebrate experimentation and boundary-pushing in artistic practice, but when it comes to the everyday operations of galleries, institutions, and artist support systems, we're still relying on workflows that haven't meaningfully changed in decades. From unpaid interns spending entire days resizing JPEGs and searching through disorganized folders, to galleries operating at the edge of capacity because basic administrative tasks consume all available time, the operational stagnation is real, and it's burning people out.In this episode, I explore why the resistance exists (spoiler: it's cultural, not technical), what the consequences are for artists, gallerists, and emerging professionals, and why adopting technology isn't about replacing human expertise. Instead, it's about making the art world livable. I'm not talking about AI-generated art or NFT speculation. I'm talking about digital archives, CRM systems, and tools that free up mental space for the work that actually matters: thinking, researching, curating, and connecting.It's time we stopped treating exhaustion as a badge of honor and started asking: What could the art world look like if we worked smarter, not just harder?YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.comResearch and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

From Art in Hotel Rooms to Global Galleries: How Minor Attractions Is Changing the London Scene + exclusive interviewsOn this week's episode of All About Art, I take you behind the scenes of London's vibrant art scene during Frieze Week to one of the most popular alternative art fairs in town: I visit Minor Attractions art fair, launched three years ago with a mission to make contemporary art more accessible and community-focused. In the episode, I chat with a gallerist, an artist, and one of the fair's co-founders about how the fair creates a dynamic space for art, performance, and nightlife - all housed within the unique setting of the Mandrake Hotel. I explore how Minor Attractions stands out from larger fairs with its affordable participation fees, free-form exhibitions, and lively, nightclub-like atmosphere. Plus, I share my thoughts on the fair's role in reimagining what an art fair can be and why it's capturing the attention of the London art scene.Check it out here: https://minorattractions.com/Featuring interviews with Jacob Barnes, co-founder of Minor Attractions, Yarran Gatsby, co-founder of LAILA Gallery, and artist Isabella Benshimol ToroYOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com 

On this week's episode of All About Art, I give you some detailed insights into the press trip to Bradford, UK's City of Culture 2025, and my experience of the Turner Prize shortlisted exhibition. In the episode, I explore the significance of the Turner Prize (especially during JMW Turner's 250th anniversary year), discuss cultural accessibility and regional programming, and take you through each artist's installation at Cartwright Hall. Featuring insights on Nnena Kalu, Rene Matić, Zadie Xa, and Mohammed Sami, plus thoughts on decentralizing culture and an unexpected discovery at Salts Mill featuring Ann Hamilton's site-specific work.Check it out here! https://bradford2025.co.uk/programme/turner-prize-2025/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com 

Arts and cultural organizations have more data than ever before, yet many leaders still struggle to know what to measure… or how to act on it. Too often, we drown in reports, track numbers no one uses, or rely on anecdote instead of evidence. The result? Decisions shaped by habit, instinct, or overload rather than clarity. In this episode, we explore the six must-know audience and revenue metrics that truly matter. Along the way, we unpack why culture and leadership, not technology, is the real barrier to data-driven decision making, why comps don't build future audiences, and how inflation is quietly eroding per-ticket revenue. This is a call to stop chasing every data point and instead build a culture where focused, actionable metrics drive your strategy. When organizations simplify and align around the right numbers, they can sharpen campaigns, retain more audiences, and grow sustainable revenue. Key takeaways you can act on: Stop drowning in numbers: Most sales reports don't matter. Focus on the few metrics that actually impact outcomes.  See the full picture: New, loyal, and lapsed buyers behave differently; if you're not tracking them separately, you're probably still guessing.  Retention is everything: New audiences are vital, but they only deliver long-term value if they return. Without retention, acquisition spend is wasted.  Units matter as much as money: Raising prices can make the numbers look good while audiences slip away. Headline revenue isn't the same as real success. Measure what matters: Conversion and response rates aren't glamorous, but without them you'll never know if campaigns are really working.  Smart spending fuels growth: It costs money to win and keep audiences. Treat it as investment; cut it, and you put your future at risk.

Art, Tech, & Streamlining Sales (in a Tech-phobic Industry), with First Thursday Founder Callum Hale-ThomsonIn this episode, I sat down with Callum Hale-Thomson, founder of the art tech company First Thursday, a platform for commercial galleries that helps teams surface insights, streamline sales and strengthen collector relationships.In this episode, Callum shares what sparked his interest in the art world and the origins of First Thursday - how it was born in early 2024, how it's evolved since then, and the unique perspective it offers to art businesses like contemporary art galleries.Plus, we dive into the role of AI in the art industry - how it's transforming workflows and what it means for galleries and art businesses. Callum shares his insights on navigating industry challenges, especially as a startup in a traditionally tech-averse space, and his vision for the future of First Thursday.Thank you Callum for coming on the podcast!You can follow First Thursday on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/first_thursday/You can check out First Thursday here: https://www.first-thursday.com/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com 

Exhibition Review: REFLECTIONS — SANGAT AND THE SELF at without SHAPE without FORM

Welcome to another episode of All About Art! In this episode, I sat down with Eleanor Getting and Amelia Stallworthy, who directed the Norman Rea gallery, the only student-run gallery in the UK which is located at the University of York.I speak to Eleanor and Amelia about how running this gallery at uni has positively impacted their careers now, and what it means to gain professional experiences early on. We talk about the ins and outs of how a student-run gallery functions, looking at how they got into their leadership roles and what it looked like when they were in them.This episode is produced in the hopes that maybe, if you are a student listening in, or if you are working at a university, that this can inspire more people to think about starting these initiatives that give tools to students BEFORE they graduate from their degrees in arts subjects.  Thank you Eleanor and Amelia for coming on the podcast!You can follow Eleanor on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/eleanorxgetting/You can follow Amelia on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/theartprin/You can check out the Norman Rea Gallery here: https://www.normanrea.com/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com 

Pricing isn't just a box office task. It's one of the most strategic levers arts organizations have. Yet too often, pricing is treated as an emotional, reactive decision; or worse, an afterthought. In this episode, we unpack why the sector has fallen behind inflation, why the fear of raising prices lingers, and how strategic pricing can reshape both revenue resilience and accessibility. From pandemic-era hesitancy to the misconception that lowering price drives demand, we explore why pricing belongs at the leadership table and what it looks like when data (not gut instinct) drives decisions. This is a call for leaders to move beyond set-it-and-forget-it pricing and instead adopt a discipline of monitoring, testing, and adapting. When pricing is managed strategically, organizations don't just cover costs; they build relationships and grow loyalty and sustainable income. Key takeaways you can act on: Pricing is leadership work: The most important financial lever shouldn't be left to siloed decision-making. Fear is costing you revenue: Incremental price adjustments prevent the “catch-up sting” of years of inaction. Demand drives price (not the other way around): Price changes don't create demand; they should respond to it. When seats aren't selling, the challenge is awareness and value perception, not the cost of the ticket. Accessibility and revenue can coexist: Strategic scaling allows organizations to expand affordable access while strengthening income. Dynamic pricing is about nuance: It means responding to demand in both directions: raising or lowering when data shows it matters. Stop measuring success by sellouts: Optimize per-ticket revenue and define success by patron behavior, not full houses. For more insights, past episodes, and to sign up for our newsletter, visit trgarts.com/leadingtheway  Contact Info:   Email letstalk@trgarts.com 

Episode 78 of ‘All About Art': Redefining Artist Management with Valeria Szabó Facchin, Founder of Studio ExpandedIn this episode, I sat down with Valeria Szabó Facchin, Founder of Studio Expanded, a new artist management agency redefining the art ecosystem.I speak to Valeria about her previous professional experiences, notably as Founding Director of the Nicoletta Fiorucci Foundation and how this impacts how she approaches business now. We delve into what it means to be an artist manager - from choosing the artists she works with, to liaising with partners and developing sustainable strategies for the creatives on her roster. We speak about the importance of understanding everything about an artist's career and practice when working with them, to thinking about potential collaborations and opportunities for them, and so much more.Thank you Valeria for coming on the podcast! You can follow Studio Expanded on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/studio_expanded_/You can check out Studio Expanded here: https://www.studioexpanded.com/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Episode Production: Paul Zschornack

✍️ Inspired by a recent essay by Damien Davis in Hyperallergic, the latest Hot Take / Art Break episode of the All About Art Podcast explores if the 50/50 split between artists and galleries is justified, or if it needs rethinking.For this episode, I cover what Davis writes in the article, as well as the reactions of others in the art world that I saw on social media - along with comments such as “If you cant afford being an artist, do something else.” (which had my BLOOD boiling!) -----YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com

Episode 77 of ‘All About Art': Working at MoMA with Ksenia Nouril, Assistant Director of the International ProgramIn this episode, I sat down with Ksenia Nouril, Assistant Director of the International Program at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City.I speak to Ksenia about the International Program at the museum and what it's like working at such a renowned organization. We delve into how her past curatorial experiences at smaller institutions paved the way for her career, what the change was like moving from a smaller city to a metropolis, and so much more. Thank you Ksenia for coming on the podcast and welcoming me to the MoMA office while I was in New York! You can follow MoMA on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/themuseumofmodernart/You can check out MoMA here: https://www.moma.org/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Episode Production: Paul Zschornack

Right People. Right Message. Right Time. Every Time.We explore why so many arts campaigns feel fragmented, and how smarter segmentation can fix it. From overlapping messages to audience fatigue, misaligned marketing and development teams are often the root of the problem. But when arts leaders take ownership of segmentation as a strategic discipline, campaigns become clearer, more effective, and easier to manage across departments.We unpack the real cost of siloed planning, the difference between data and action, and the shift required to move from seasonal pushes to sustained patron cultivation. With practical examples and sector-specific insight, this episode is a call to rethink how campaigns are planned, how audiences are segmented, and who's really responsible for making it all work.Key takeaways you can act on:Why segmentation is a leadership discipline; not just a data taskHow shared segmentation creates clarity and avoids duplicated asksThe key patron segments every arts organization should define and useHow collaboration between marketing and development teams strengthens campaign timing and messagingWhat smarter campaign planning looks like when driven by patron behaviorSimple first steps to improve segmentation and align your teamsFor more insights, past episodes, and to sign up for our newsletter, visit trgarts.com/leadingtheway Contact Info:  Email letstalk@trgarts.com 

Episode 76 of ‘All About Art': Mindfulness & Spirituality in Art Curation & Advising with Sneha Shah, Founder of CuratyWelcome to another episode of All About Art! In this episode, I sat down with Sneha Shah, Mumbai and London based entrepreneur and Founder of Curaty - an art advisory firm that offers bespoke curatorial services, art experiences, and rental and advisory for art across the U.K. and India.I ask Sneha about how she started her business, and what it means to run a company that builds on the philosophy of mindfulness and spirituality in art curation and collecting. We cover many bases, speaking about how her company has grown in the last 6 years - and what it was like in the beginning as an entrepreneur versus now. We discuss her work in South Asia and how it differs from her work in London, and so much more more. Thank you Sneha for coming on the podcast! You can follow Sneha on Instagram here: www.instagram.com/snehashah.artAnd check out Curaty here: https://curaty.co/Plus, if you want to hear more from Sneha, tune in to her podcast Power Of Art here: https://open.spotify.com/show/3vKYCqt274lqUF48z05din?si=b112fb17dcac4249You can read the interview in Metal Magazine here: https://metalmagazine.eu/en/post/curaty-by-sneha-shah-luxury-meets-spirituality-art-and-wellbeingYOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Episode Production: Paul Zschornack

Three out of four first-time attendees never return. Not because the art isn't strong, but because the follow-up isn't built for loyalty. Most arts & cultural organizations are investing in acquisition, but losing the retention game where it matters most: right after the first visit.In this episode, we explore why timing trumps intention, where most post-show strategies fall short, and how small shifts in behavior can drive long-term impact. If you're ready to increase the number of your first-time attendees that come back, this is the conversation to start with.Key takeaways you can act on:Why the “second date” is the most important moment in retention strategyHow recency shapes return behaviorCommon mistakes organizations make in post-show follow-upThe difference between audience experience vs. organizational workflowSimple, actionable tactics to turn first-time visitors into repeat attendees For more insights, past episodes, and to sign up for our newsletter, visit trgarts.com/leadingtheway Contact Info:  Email letstalk@trgarts.com 

Episode 75 of ‘All About Art': Over 100 Years of Artist Residencies with Chiwoniso Kaitano, Executive Director of MacDowell Welcome to another episode of All About Art! In this episode, I sat down with Chiwoniso Kaitano, Executive Director of MacDowell, an artist residency in New York established in 1907 (over 100 years ago) and now one of the most prestigious artist residencies worldwide. I speak to Chiwoniso about her career path and what led her to her position as Executive Director of the residency. We delve into how the residency runs and we chat about its core mission within the art ecosystem. I ask about her responsibilities within her role as well as how she feels about the current political climate in the United States, especially while spearheading a company that has seen over 100 years of change.I am excited to be releasing this podcast to coincide with their medal day celebration taking place on June 29th, where this year they are honoring Chilean-born visual artist, architect and filmmaker Alfredo Jaar with the 65th Edward MacDowell Medal.Thank you Chiwoniso for coming on the podcast and for welcoming me to the MacDowell office in Chelsea while I was in New York! You can follow Chiwoniso on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/chiwoniso/You can follow MacDowell on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/macdowell1907You can check out MacDowell here: https://www.macdowell.orgYOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutartFOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Episode Production: Paul Zschornack

In this episode of Leading the Way, Jill S. Robinson talks with Seth Godin about strategic leadership in the arts. Together, they explore how cultural leaders can bridge immediate operational demands with long-term vision, embracing adaptability, empathy, and purpose to create meaningful, audience-centered institutions that thrive beyond today's challenges.  Drawing on insights from Seth's lates book This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans the conversation touches on the urgent need for leaders to step out of reactive cycles and into proactive, strategic modes of thinking. They discuss how to define success beyond sellouts, build deeper audience loyalty, and lead with intention; not just passion.  For more insights, past episodes, and to sign up for our newsletter, visit trgarts.com/leadingtheway  Contact Info:  Email letstalk@trgarts.com 

In the world of arts administration, few careers can rival the breadth and impact of Deborah Rutter's. Her journey began with an early role working under the legendary Ernest Fleischmann at the Los Angeles Philharmonic and evolved into a series of leadership positions at some of the most prominent institutions in the United States. She has served as executive director of the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra, the Seattle Symphony, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, and, most recently, as president of the Kennedy Center. Her influence has reached far beyond the walls of any one organization, shaping the national conversation around the arts and the role of cultural institutions in American life.In Part 1 of our conversation, Deborah reflects on her lifelong connection to music, which began in the third grade when she picked up the violin. We follow her path through her youth, her studies at Stanford, and a formative year in Vienna. She shares insights from her early years at the Los Angeles Philharmonic and walks us through her progression into major leadership roles across the country. Along the way, we explore what it takes to guide large arts organizations—everything from working with music directors and guest artists to day-to-day responsibilities, strategic planning, and the ongoing challenges of funding and development.[Subscriber Content] In Part 2, we turn our focus to Deborah's time at the Kennedy Center. She discusses the complexities of overseeing high-profile initiatives like the Kennedy Center Honors, leading the institution through the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic (during which she took a 95% pay cut), launching the REACH expansion program, and bringing hip-hop into the Center's programming. We also touch on the events of February 2025, when she was dismissed from her role by President Donald Trump, and hear her candid reflections on the future of the Kennedy Center. We close with a powerful quote that captures the heart of her life's work: “Quite simply, the artist holds a mirror to who we are as a people and nation and compels us to be better.”DoricoProfessional music notation and composition software from Steinberg. Download a free 30-trial today!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Would you like more inspirational stories, suggestions, insights, and a place to continue the conversations with other listeners? Visit anthonyplog-on-music.supercast.com to learn more! As a Contributing Listener of "Anthony Plog on Music," you'll have access to extra premium content and benefits including: Extra Audio Content: Only available to Contributing Listeners. Podcast Reflections: Tony's written recaps and thoughts on past interviews, including valuable tips and suggestions for students. Ask Me Anything: Both as written messages and occasional member-only Zoom sessions. The Show's Discord Server: Where conversations about interviews, show suggestions, and questions happen. It's a great place to meet other listeners and chat about all things music! Can I just donate instead of subscribing? Absolutely! Cancel at anytime and easily resubscribe when you want all that extra content again. Learn more about becoming a Contributing Listener @ anthonyplog-on-music.supercast.com!

My book, Beyond Potential, is already changing lives! Get your copy at Amazon, Barnesandnoble.com, or Bookshop.org and start making progress on your biggest life goals today!  What does it take to go from teen camper to owner and director of a beloved summer music camp? In this inspiring episode, Kate sits down with violist and music educator Cara Bergantino, who now leads Camp Encore Coda in Maine. Cara shares her journey from reluctant day camper to passionate overnight camper—and how her love for the program led her to buy the camp she once attended. They dive into: The unexpected lessons of arts camp leadership How to create a non-competitive, nurturing space for young artists The impact of COVID on music education and teen development What today's kids really need—and how parents can support their growth How to market meaningfully to both kids and their families The business aspects that came naturally to Cara as an artist, and those that proved challenging.  How changing their approach to email marketing has made a world of difference.  Whether you're a parent, educator, or artist dreaming of launching something big, this episode is full of heart, practical insight, and inspiration. My guest, Cara Bergantino, is a violist and music educator who has taught for over a decade in the Greater Boston area. At age 13, Cara began attending Camp Encore/Coda, an overnight music camp in Maine, and fell in love with it. Over the course of the next 20 summers, Cara worked her way up at Encore/Coda and took over as Owner and Director in 2022. She earned her Bachelor's degree in Music Education with a concentration in viola performance from New York University, and a Master's Degree in Arts Administration from Boston University. Learn more about Camp Encore Coda Want more of this kind of content, delivered straight to your inbox? Sign up for The Weekend List, my weekly dose of career and life inspiration. 

This week Ivy Slater, host of Her Success Story, chats with her guest, Sonia Kostich. The two talk about Sonia's unique merger of arts and finance, her role in fostering artistic talent at Baryshnikov Arts, and the importance of building relationships and support systems in every career phase.  In this episode, we discuss: How Sonia Kostich transitioned from a professional ballet dancer to a career in finance, going to college at 42 and working at Goldman Sachs. What inspired her to reinvent herself and pursue a new path after a successful 20-year career in dance. When Sonia made the decision to take the next step in her life and focus on education and a new career direction. Why Sonia believes keeping strong relationships and a support network is crucial, especially during major life transitions. How the skills and discipline from a dance career can translate into success in the business world. The importance of staying open to possibilities and being willing to step into the unknown as part of personal and professional growth. Sonja Kostich- Executive Director of Baryshnikov Arts brings with her both the knowledge and experience of having been a professional dancer for over two decades as well as significant business acumen derived from her business education and time working at Goldman Sachs. Through a unique and successful professional trajectory, she now merges her artistic and business experience as an arts leader. Ms. Kostich was hired by Mikhail Baryshnikov at the age of 17 to join American Ballet Theatre from The School of Classical Ballet, the training school for ABT created by Mr. Baryshnikov, consisting of only seven female students and five male students. She later danced with the San Francisco Ballet and the Zurich Ballet, Mikhail Baryshnikov's White Oak Dance Project, and in multiple collaborations with opera/theater director Peter Sellars, before co-founding OtherShore, which she co-directed for six years. Her experience in ballet, contemporary, and modern dance resulted in a diverse international career that spanned across artistic disciplines.  Upon retiring from dancing, Ms. Kostich returned to school, obtaining a Bachelor of Business Administration (BBA) in Accounting and Business Communication from Zicklin School of Business, CUNY Baruch College, where she graduated Salutatorian at the age of 42. Following, she began a full-time position at Goldman Sachs in the Finance Division with a focus on regulatory capital requirements. Simultaneously she obtained an MA in Arts Administration, eventually returning to the dance world, first as the finance manager at Mark Morris Dance Group and then as program manager at New York City Center. From 2018 to 2022, she served as the Chief Executive and Artistic Officer at Kaatsbaan Cultural Park, a 153-acre artist sanctuary located in Tivoli, NY, where she led the successful rebrand and revitalization of the over 30-year organization, bringing it to award-winning status for its significant artistic and economic contributions to the Hudson Valley.  In October 2022, Ms. Kostich joined Baryshnikov Arts as its new Executive Director. As a female Korean American, born in Seoul, Korea, and raised in Minnesota, her history, both personal and professional, lends itself to cultivating and supporting new perspectives as Baryshnikov Arts expands its capacity to create multi-platform and collaborative havens for artistic expression, innovation and freedom and especially as we commit further to elevating and sharing the stories of artists of diverse cultures and histories. Social Media Links: Instagram handle:  @sonja.kostich  

Allona Kagan earned her BA in Art History from UC Berkley and MA in Arts Administration from Columbia University. Art spirituality and writing are her life long passions. A reiki healer and a channel, she connects to spiritual source for inspiration for her life and writing. She lives in Marin county, California. Allona joins Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show with special GUEST!!! Teresa Rodriguez. Get Kagan's The Weaver on Amazon at amzn.to/3WlCosS From the Blurb about The Weaver - An uplifting and inspiring story about the search for lasting happiness. Joyce Woodland wakes up in a strange cabin in the forest, unable to remember her name. She has no idea that she is a powerful CEO of an international conglomerate, nor that she has been married for over twenty years. Her seemingly perfect, yet stressful life is completely erased from her memory. By her side is a wise weaver woman who helps her recover physically and emotionally through spiritual wisdom and healing practices. Moreover, the weaver woman guides her to remember who she truly is beyond the identity she lost. Can Joyce find her way back to her life and integrate her transformation into daily reality? Will she recover her love for the one she no longer remembers? Her journey, with the love and guidance of the weaver woman, inspires the quest to the true happiness we all seek.