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Memorial Day: Remember the Lost & Preserve the FutureEurope Rising up Against “Immigrants”Islamization of Texas UnderwayWhite Farmers in South AfricaFollow Debbie Georgatos, America Can We Talk Show HostWebsite: http://americacanwetalk.orgTwitter: @DebbieCanWeTalkTruth: https://truthsocial.com/@AmericaCanWeTalkInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/debbiecanwetalkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AmericaCanWeTalkRumble: https://rumble.com/user/AmericaCanWeTalkOBBM: https://www.obbmnetwork.tv/series/america-can-we-talk-207873America Can We Talk is a show with a mission — to speak up for the extraordinary and unique greatness of America. I talk about the top issues of the day facing America, often with insightful guests, always from the perspective of furthering that mission, and with the goal to inspire listeners to celebrate and embrace the liberty on which America was founded. #BecauseAmericaMatters
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It's the Feast of St. Peter Celestine, 3rd class, with the color of white. In this episode: The meditation: “As I Have Loved You,” today's news from the Church: “Organized Kidnappings in Nigeria and the Islamization of the Country,” a preview of the Sermon: “Prayer: The Key to Heaven,” and today's thought from the Archbishop. We'd love your feedback on these Daily Devotionals! What do you like / not like, and what would you like us to add? podcast@sspx.org Sources Used Today: The Risen Christ– Caryll Houselander (Amazon) “Organized Kidnappings in Nigeria and the Islamization of the Country” (FSSPX.news) https://fsspx.news/en/news/nigeria-organized-kidnappings-and-islamization-country-52443 “Prayer: The Key to Heaven” (SSPX Sermons) Watch on YouTube Listen & Subscribe: SSPX Sermons Podcast The Spiritual Life- Archbishop Lefebvre (Angelus Press) Please Support this Apostolate with 1-time or Monthly Donation >> Explore more: Subscribe to the email version of this Devotional - it's a perfect companion! Subscribe to this Podcast to receive this and all our audio episodes Subscribe to the SSPX YouTube channel for video versions of our podcast series and Sermons FSSPX News Website: https://fsspx.news Visit the US District website: https://sspx.org/ What is the SSPX Podcast? The SSPX Podcast is produced by Angelus Press, which has as its mission the fortification of traditional Catholics so that they can defend the Faith, and reaching out to those who have not yet found Tradition. What is the SSPX? The main goal of the Society of Saint Pius X is to preserve the Catholic Faith in its fullness and purity, to teach its truths, and to diffuse its virtues, especially through the Roman Catholic priesthood. Authentic spiritual life, the sacraments, and the traditional liturgy are its primary means of bringing this life of grace to souls. Although the traditional Latin Mass is the most visible and public expression of the work of the Society, we are committed to defending Catholic Tradition in its entirety: all of Catholic doctrine and morals as the Church has always defended them. What people need is the Catholic Faith, without compromise, with all the truth and beauty which accompanies it.
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Tony Gurule of Radical Truth is today's guest as he and David discuss the Islamization of Texas, the expansion of mosques in Texas, as well as the ultimate solution to what's happening. Visit us at RadicalTruth.net ** ALL Donations are Tax-Deductible **
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Is the relationship between Islam and science as well-developed as it is in Christianity? Not even close—but that's changing. In this episode, Dr. Shoaib Ahmed Malik, Lecturer in Science and Religion at the University of Edinburgh, joins Dru Johnson to share the emerging field of Islam and science, focusing on the hot topic of evolution. Shoaib unpacks the historical development of Islamic engagement with science, tracing it from early encounters with Western scientific frameworks to the present. He explains why the Islamic world lacks infrastructure like textbooks, academic chairs, and journals for the science-religion conversation—and why that's finally beginning to change. But what about evolution? Shoaib shares why it remains a highly sensitive subject in Muslim-majority countries (including stories of professors losing jobs over it) and how Muslim views differ from Christian ones, especially around original sin, Adam, and human suffering. This is an honest, fascinating look at how Muslims are navigating modern science, why cultural and religious taboos persist, and how Shoaib's work is shaping new conversations at the intersection of Islamic theology and science. We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought/ X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Shoaib Ahmed Malik's Journey 03:11 Transition from Engineering to Humanities 06:00 Teaching Experience in the UAE 09:14 Pursuing Philosophy, Science, and Religion 12:18 Publishing and Academic Recognition 15:11 Navigating Career Changes and New Opportunities 18:29 Exploring Science and Religion Conversations 26:43 Navigating Conversations with Students 27:29 Understanding Islam: Sunni vs Shia 30:19 The Contemporary Muslim World: Sunni and Shia Dynamics 31:34 The Intellectual History of Islam 35:17 Muslim Perspectives on Science and Religion 39:01 Islamization of Science: A Discourse Emerges 42:48 The Development of Islamic Science Education 44:25 Evolution and Its Reception in the Muslim World 48:11 Unique Questions Muslims Ask About Evolution
SCOTUS BLOCKS Deportation of VZ Gang Members: Politics to blame? Interviews with TX State Senator Mayes Middleton, SD 11.THENDiane Benjamin, Candidate for Dallas City Council Dst 13. EARTH DAY & GLOBAL CLIMATE TRUTH The Islamization of Texas, UnderwayFollow Debbie Georgatos, America Can We Talk Show HostWebsite: http://americacanwetalk.orgTwitter: @DebbieCanWeTalkTruth: https://truthsocial.com/@AmericaCanWeTalkInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/debbiecanwetalkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AmericaCanWeTalkRumble: https://rumble.com/user/AmericaCanWeTalkOBBM: https://www.obbmnetwork.tv/series/america-can-we-talk-207873America Can We Talk is a show with a mission — to speak up for the extraordinary and unique greatness of America. I talk about the top issues of the day facing America, often with insightful guests, always from the perspective of furthering that mission, and with the goal to inspire listeners to celebrate and embrace the liberty on which America was founded. #BecauseAmericaMatters
Time has run out for illegal aliens in America. What the border looks like before and after Trump's second term. Is Trump's tariff plan evolving, or is an intricate plan still playing out? Bernie Sanders has been warning about the coming "oligarchy" for over 30 years. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rooting for the destruction of America? Why are Democrats opposed to voter ID laws? Taylor Lorenz is supportive of the murderer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson? The Islamization of Texas is well under way. ESPN host Stephen A. Smith is considering a run for president. Stabbing suspect headed to court today in Frisco, Texas. Threats on the lives of politicians stopped. All female-crew headed to space. 00:00 Pat Gray UNLEASHED 00:24 NEW Pat Gray BINGO! Card 06:38 Karoline Leavitt's Message for Illegals 07:49 Flashback to Hillary Clinton in 2008 09:21 Eagle Pass, TX: Then and Now 10:25 Stephen Miller Rips into Biden Administration over Illegals 14:42 Trump Exempts Semiconductors from Tariffs 15:15 Howard Lutnik & Stephen Miller Explain Trump's Tariff Plans 24:38 130 Nations Reach Out to Trump for New Trade Deal 27:42 AOC & Bernie Sanders' "I Hate America" Tour 28:24 Bernie Sanders has been Saying the Same Thing for 20 Years 30:19 Weekend Box Office Results 31:53 AOC Says America Deserves to Fail 34:42 Stephen Miller on the Importance of Voter ID 38:44 Taylor Lorenz on the Death of United Healthcare CEO 44:05 The Gradual Islamification of Texas 1:14:38 Stephen A. Smith Running for President? 1:17:39 Gretchen Whitmer Covers her Face in Oval Office Picture 1:19:19 Hamas Supporter at Columbia University can be Deported 1:25:33 Update on Frisco, TX Stabbing 1:27:41 Twisted Teenage Killer from Wisconsin 1:29:55 More Donald Trump & Tulsi Gabbard Death Threats Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This is just a preview of the full conservation which you watch or listen to at AporiaMagazine.com Philippe Lemoine explains the recent trial of Marine Le Pen and the historical misuse of European Parliament funds by French political parties. The discussion delves into the demographic changes in France, comparing them to the U.S. and exploring the challenges of immigration policies and integration. Philippe argues that misconceptions about the speed of demographic changes and naive solutions like 'Remigration' foster counterproductive radicalism. He believes that while France faces significant integration challenges, it is not on the brink of demographic collapse. The discussion also critiques the perceived special ability of the U.S. to integrate immigrants better than Europe, attributing it to the selection of higher-educated immigrants rather than any unique American approach.
Pastors' Point of View Ep. 349 with Dr. Andy Woods “Prophecy Update”Topics covered: The RestrainerGog-MagogHow does the Islamization of Sugar Land, Texas play into the prophetic scenario?Thanks for listening. God bless.
Scheming Kicks off for Summer of FakeRage Texas State House AND the SRECSREC Update on TX LEGEChristin Bentley, SREC State Republican Executive Committee, SD 1Deborah Kelting-Fite, SREC State Republican Executive Committee, SD 7Islamization of Texas Underway SCOTUS stands up for the Constitution: ACB DissentsFollow Debbie Georgatos, America Can We Talk Show HostWebsite: http://americacanwetalk.orgTwitter: @DebbieCanWeTalkTruth: https://truthsocial.com/@AmericaCanWeTalkInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/debbiecanwetalkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AmericaCanWeTalkRumble: https://rumble.com/user/AmericaCanWeTalkOBBM: https://www.obbmnetwork.tv/series/america-can-we-talk-207873America Can We Talk is a show with a mission — to speak up for the extraordinary and unique greatness of America. I talk about the top issues of the day facing America, often with insightful guests, always from the perspective of furthering that mission, and with the goal to inspire listeners to celebrate and embrace the liberty on which America was founded. #BecauseAmericaMattersNew boost
Join Aaron and Dexter Van Zile —Managing editor of the Middle East Forum publication Focus on Western Islamism—in a stunning conversation about why young Evangelicals are embracing Marxist Palestinian Christian nationalism and what they must give up to believe the lie. Are young Evangelicals being taught by Christian college instructors to despise the western world?Are young Evangelical men being emasculated in order to accept a new religion of Christian Marxism that submits to the Islamization of the western world?Why did an anti-Zionist, Christian Palestinian Marxist receive a standing ovation this week after speaking in the chapel at the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College to a packed audience of students a faculty?
Tony Gurule is the Vice President of Radical Truth. He and David discuss the throttling of viewership across social media, the future of Gaza, and what the Trump administration might mean for both. To see the parts of Gaza that aren't shown in the mainstream media watch, "Terror, Racket and Corruption" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsqrOLPGd50 Website: https://www.radicaltruth.netDonate: https://www.radicaltruth.net/donate
Colossians 4:2-6 in the Bible is about prayer, speaking wisely, and sharing the Gospel. It conveys that God cares about our personal prayer life and how we interact with others. Here is Olin's recent sermon that he preached at Calvary Mission Outreach CrownPoint, and after the sermon there was nearly a 20-minute Q&A about Islam and reaching Muslims with the Gospel! Website: https://www.radicaltruth.net Donate: https://www.radicaltruth.net/donate
Tommy Robinson provided an in-depth warning in 2016. Here's what he told Tony during this 90-minute interview called, "The Islamization of the United Kingdom" that was recorded in 2016. In the second segment of the interview, Nonie Darwish joined us as well. Website: https://www.radicaltruth.net Donate: https://www.radicaltruth.net/donate
Glenn uses the story of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, who was shot and killed while leaving a hotel early yesterday morning, as a warning of what's to come. Glenn looks at all the available information that points to this killing being a planned execution. Glenn shares his story of redemption and how he got past the negativity surrounding him. Norwegian journalist Rebecca Mistereggen joins to discuss the current mass immigration crisis and Islamization of Norway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What is the purpose of the American government? Glenn outlines the mission statement to protect our inalienable rights, as outlined in the Declaration of Independence. Glenn also lays out what America is fighting against and the appropriate response to the fight. Glenn uses the story of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, who was shot and killed while leaving a hotel early yesterday morning, as a warning of what's to come. Glenn looks at all the available information that points to this killing being a planned execution. Glenn and Stu call out Taylor Lorenz for celebrating the death of the United Healthcare CEO. Glenn shares his story of redemption and how he got past the negativity surrounding him. Axios accused Trump of sabotaging Biden's final days with his aggressive transition, but Glenn argues it's just promises being kept. Norwegian journalist Rebecca Mistereggen joins to discuss the current mass immigration crisis and the Islamization of Norway. Glenn and Stu discuss the Supreme Court's recent hearing on Tennessee's bill that bans the "transgender" mutilation of children and why Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor was definitely NOT the Dobbs leaker. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen now to this important podcast in which Aaron discusses the book Londonistan by Melanie Phillips and how world news media outlets like the New York Times are accusing Jews for last week's violent attack against Israelis by radical Islamists in the Netherlands.London has become the center of radical Islamic militancy and Europe as a whole has already submitted to the Islamization of its continent. Will America follow the same path?
Mary welcomes back Elijah Abraham, pastor, evangelist and speaker who tirelessly sounds the alarm about the Islamic threat to the church and the world. Today we catch up with his extensive travels to the Eastern hemisphere to spread the gospel and equip pastors to combat the threat of Islam both politically and spiritually. His unique testimony is used by God to show Americans it's getting awfully late on the clock to wake up to the Islamic threat here, there, and everywhere. We discuss his latest travels and how the Lord is working overseas via the gospel. Then we discuss the encroaching Islamization of Europe, particularly in the UK and France, Birmingham and Strasbourg, respectively. An eye-opening hour that might give the church something to ponder when it comes to fear and naivete on a global level. Shameless plug for swag for our listeners/donors! https://www.redpillprints.com/stand-up-for-the-truth - Thanks for YOUR Support!
Send us a Text Message.Join Hannah as she travels around the world in today's podcast. There's been a lot going on, so Hannah offers an update on Kamala Harris's pick for VP-- Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota before offering a quick update on the Middle East and happenings there. Then Hannah begins a slightly lengthier discussion about the anti-balkanization/anti-Islamization protests in the UK. What did they stem from? What information do we have about the event? What misinformation has been spread? Hannah covers all this and more. Lastly, Hannah is launching a new segment for her podcast-- Hannah's Homeschool Hints. This portion of the show is designed to specifically answer common, or not so common, questions people ask about homeschooling. Starting things off, Hannah discusses if it's too late to homeschool this year and what that process looks like in South Carolina. https://www.thehannahmillershow.com/podcasts/https://bobslone.com/contact/bob@bobslone.com
Tony Gurule was interviewed by Kathryn Camp, on "The Faith & Culture Show" to talk about the Palestine situation, the Islamization of the West, the fall of American freedom, and the ultimate solution to what is happening. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0IeegjJnk8 Website: https://www.radicaltruth.net Donate: https://www.radicaltruth.net/donate
Show Notes and Transcript Our good friend, Tanya Gaw, founder of Action4Canada returns to Hearts of Oak for a discussion on protecting faith, family, and freedom in Canada, highlighting challenges in education and Traitor Trudeau's stance on Israel. She advocates for nationalist movements, scrutinizing globalist influence, and preserving Canadian values. Emphasizing unity and upholding Christian-based culture, this podcast underscores the importance of challenging mainstream narratives for a secure future. Tanya Gaw is a committed Christian and defender of faith, family, and freedom. She is the founder of Action4Canada which is a grassroots, not for profit organization committed to upholding the Canadian constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Tanya began her journey in 2015 in response to the government passing legislation that severely impacted Canadian democracy and freedom. Tanya has been working to give the silent majority a voice through letter writing campaigns, petitions and organizing events, to help raise public awareness. Action4Canada not only educates people on what is happening, they effectively equip, encourage and mobilize Canadians to take action. Tanya also retained Rocco Galati, a top constitutional lawyer, and commenced legal action against the BC and Federal government as of August 16, 2021. This action is in response to the government's COVID-19 emergency measures wherein they have committed egregious crimes against the citizens of Canada in an effort to attain global control. Her greatest mission is to declare that Canada is founded on Judeo Christian biblical principles, forming our laws and our values, and provides a system of governance that sets us apart from totalitarian, extremist and communist regimes. Because of it…we have the freedom to believe…or not to believe…without fear of persecution, oppression, and even death. Connect with Tanya and Action4Canada... WEBSITE action4canada.com X/TWITTER x.com/GawTanya x.com/Action4Canada RUMBLE rumble.com/c/Action4Canada Interview recorded 18.6.24 Connect with Hearts of Oak... X/TWITTER x.com/HeartsofOakUK WEBSITE heartsofoak.org/ PODCASTS heartsofoak.podbean.com/ SOCIAL MEDIA heartsofoak.org/connect/ SHOP heartsofoak.org/shop/ TRANSCRIPT (Hearts of Oak) It is wonderful to have Tanya Gaw back with us again. It's been a long time. Tanya, thank you so much for joining us once again today. (Tanya Gaw) Thank you, Peter. It's good to be here. I always appreciate the work that you do. So I'm excited about the conversation today. That's great that we can talk from Europe all the way over there to Canada and connect and have a conversation about the work, certainly you're doing and I think it massively helps our viewers understand and of course the WarRoom Posse will be watching so they will get just north of the border there of what is happening, but obviously if Tanya's been with us twice before, if the viewers or listeners have not followed her then you can follow her, there is her Twitter handle @gawtanya and of course action4canada.com is the website and shows the the great work that Tanya is doing there in Canada of course and you're there just in case our viewers haven't because it's been a while, so you're the founder of Action 4 Canada, protecting faith, family, and freedom, educating, equipping, encouraging, and mobilizing Canadian citizens. And I always find that when you speak to someone in the country, you learn from what they are doing, irrelevant to whether it's just for that country, you can take away principles and ideas and learn what is happening there. But you put out weekly videos along with your email list, along with everything else on the website. And one of the most recent ones caught my eye. And it was, I think you start looking at education, and then we'll get on to the whole issue of Israel and Hamas, I can't call it Palestine, Israel and Hamas, and what is happening there and how that has affected, we've seen the effect, certainly our media or education system across the board here in the UK, I think it's the same for there. But you begin the video with talking about schooling and education and how the, I guess the state system is indoctrinated. Do you want to just let us know what the situation is. You mentioned home-schooling. What is the education system like in Canada as you look at it as someone who loves freedom and as a Christian? It's dire, as it is in our southern friends in America and across the waters to the UK and Europe. I mean, this is a global attack against our kids and against the natural family. And so our education system with Trudeau being fully on board with the UN and the WEF he's just going in lockstep with whatever you know they suggest or demand and so as a signatory state I always say that the UN is an unelected body interfering with our democracy worldwide in western nations we've got to fully pull out of the UN and so with the comprehensive sexual education which I'm sure most of your viewers are very familiar with, it comes by a different name in Canada. It may be SOGI 123 in BC and Alberta. The Win Sex Ed Plan in Ontario, and by different names in other provinces, Cirque, etc. And so what we did many years ago is, in 2016 is when I became aware about this agenda and the sexualization of our children, the indoctrination, and started to really try to bring attention to it. But Canadians weren't ready to hear it. Oh, people should love who they want to love. And it just needs to be acceptance. And this is an anti-bullying program. And it's like, no, it's much more sinister than that. And so in a way, COVID has been a friend of ours as far as the information war is concerned, because it finally brought to the attention to citizens around the world that were under attack by a globalist, Marxist, communist, whatever you want to call it, agenda and anti-family, anti-Christian, anti-life. agenda. And so finally, I had about 55,000 members that were signed up with Action 4 Canada when COVID hit, and it pretty much doubled that. And then at some point, I finally stepped out and I started talking to the individuals who hadn't been following me for a while about the LGBTQ sexual activist agenda that had infiltrated our school system. And so when we see, of course, as the other side is starting to lose control. I call it like a tug of war. There's that mud in the middle and the LGBTQ have had a good handle and been pulling us into the mud and our families and our kids. And now that with all of the awareness and all of the work like Action for Canada and organizations and people like yourself, we finally are starting to pull the LGBTQ in the mud and they're losing grip. And so when that's happening though, They want to up their agenda. And they became more aggressive and more transparent. And people in parents, the average parent can't ignore because their children are coming home and saying, I identify as the opposite sex. So what we do as an organization, we're not just there to provide information and scare the bejeebers out of people. We actually want to give them resources and to help them to actively get involved. So on this subject, we created notices of liability to serve to school boards and trustees and to say that you can't sexualize children and you can't groom them, you can't, you know, extort them, exploit them, etc. And so we have just really been pushing back. And then the other thing we're doing is we have a flyer and I have over 100 chapters nationwide. And so our teams within the communities go to the schools and they actually hand this flyer, this truth bomb into the the hands of parents who are dropping their kids off, you know, going and working two jobs just to put food on the table or pay the rent or the mortgage here in Canada. And so anyways, by that we've created a lot of awareness. And so it's really bad. I'm sure that you've gone and you probably had many special guests on talking about the fact that the programs I did a special in October. It's on my website at the top of political LGBTQ. It's under current issues in our menu. And I proved a whistle-blower had given me a teacher's resource and it was called a teacher's toolkit. And within that toolkit, it was for ages kindergarten to grade six. And I highlighted in yellow the conversations that they were having with kindergartners, grade one, just dropping that little bit of indoctrination, starting the thought about two genders, how they were nefariously coming in and beginning, starting that allyship. You know, they talk about LGBTQ allies. And in one of them, it even went towards, like, if you're a friend, now this is like grade three, if your friend identifies as the, you know, opposite sex, and their parents don't support them, kind of like, what will you do? And then it says, if your friend identifies as an owl. How would you respond? And of course, that's the furries. That's the bestiality part of it. You just drop, you know, a little thought like that into a child's brain and it grows. And then they begin to grow with the allyship and turn kids away from their parents and that they're loved and accepted here. year. And then of course, they have the clubs that meet at school, the Gay Straight Alliance clubs. And of course, they're changing those names now because we're on to them. And it has, you know, a bad name. So let's change it to, you know, the Rainbow Club or however it works. So we're finding on mass, it is a 911 crisis in Canada, the amount of kids that are being indoctrinated that are identifying as the opposite sex. I don't believe with one second that there There is one trans child that's a complete and utter lie from the pit of hell. And so now it's a matter of fighting back. And one of the ways we did that is in Canada is a big country with all the provinces and territories. So I always look at France, right, and the French resistance and, you know, look back at strategies of war and this being an information war. How do you deal with a country with this kind of landmass and get the right information and people mobilized. And so that's where our chapters come in. But one of the things that happened in Saskatchewan, which is a province in the middle of Canada, is that our chapter leader had found out that they were going to put SOGI 123 and implement it last September into the education system. And that's... SOGI is already in BC and Alberta, and it's the ARC Foundation that brought that in, and they want to be in every province across the nation. So we started lobbying the government. We served the notice of liability. We provided them all kinds of copious information showing the harms that this was causing to children and that they had a duty to prevent harm. And that now that they knew this and had all of this information, they were looking at potential legal actions in the future. Well, by August, they had reversed their decision and they banned SOGI and they banned Planned Parenthood because they had had these sex cards that grade nine kids accidentally got into their hands. And so we lobbied them and said no third parties should have access or teach any sexual health within our schools. And so that's been expanding in New Brunswick. And there's the fight going on in Alberta. We're doing work in the background there as well. And there's a battle going on in Saskatchewan because the LGBTQ. They are furious that they lost this one. And so as they do, they try to victimize and get in the courts. And I believe we're going to win. And I believe that we're winning this ideological war. I'm very encouraged by what's going on in Europe, in the UK with the Tavistock, what's going on in the United States. 26 states are completely annihilating the LGBTQ, DEI, globalist agenda. So there's lots of progress being made, but it seems to be a ripple effect. Europe and the UK were very much ahead of us on the problems that we're all facing, mass immigration, LGBTQ, DEI, et cetera. Then the United States, it increased when Obama, was sitting president, and then when Trudeau got in is when he started to fast-track these agendas as well. And it's overwhelming what we're being hit with, with the Liberal government and the NDP aligning with them and the Bloc Quebecois. So we're in quite a crisis in Canada, but people are waking up and we've got hope for the future. Things are really turning around. And that's a massive issue, and I'll leave that to our viewers and listeners to delve deeper. I just want to give a taster because I think that's really essential. But there is another issue that Europe are ahead of the curve, and that's Islamization. And the EU have traditionally been very anti-Israel. The UK have generally been more supportive of Israel in relation to certainly the rest of Europe. But then we have the current situation sparked off on October the 7th from that horrendous attack into Israel. And you touch on this, and I'd like to maybe expand on this issue, the Canadian response to what has happened there over in Israel. What's the Canadian government's general response? I'm assuming I kind of know where to pigeonhole Trudeau, but I'll let you tell me. What's the Canadian government's kind of outlook traditionally been on Israel? Well, under Stephen Harper, Canada was fully in support of Israel. When Trudeau took office, when he was running for office, he was supporting everything and anything that would get him a vote. He's just the most ridiculous man on the face of the earth next to Biden. I think they're competing for that position. And so, yeah, what happened is when that had taken place, I mean, the whole world was shocked and appalled and horrified at the attack and what Islam, well, this is, you know, throughout the Middle East, they've come in, subjugated, overtaken, but through cruelty, every possible country they could. And they're working on the Western nations as well. And it's been no different in Canada. So Trudeau is a traitor. He is hated by the majority of Canadians. He's a wannabe dictator. And he's made his allegiance to China very clear. He's made his allegiance to Islam very clear. He's made his allegiance to Calestani Sikhs very clear. He is just, you know, he's like he's bipolar. He has multiple personalities. And the whole thing is, you know, it's all falling down on him, because you can't continue to support all these different individuals, because they're all vying for position, and all vying for his attention. And this is a war going on in Canada for our very existence. And so Trudeau turned his back on Israel. When everything came out about UNRWA a few months ago, was it in February? You know, the United States pulled out their funding right away, Canada, you know, through pressure said they were going to stop funding, they paused, paused funding. But as it turned out, the next payment was in April. And by then he had already lifted it. So as we saw, the tunnels were beneath, underneath UNRWA, no way that they're not involved in these attacks and this war against Israel. We see what they're teaching the children in the school. And so they should be completely defunded. And we're going to be we're working on that. The purpose I'm saying that is Justin Trudeau, prior to this, has funded terrorism. There's a case by Tom Quiggan against him with all the evidence possible to prove that through funding certain Islamic organizations in Canada, those organizations are funding terrorism. No different with UNRWA. So by funding UNRWA, Trudeau is funding terrorism. And so he's made this. Then he went with voted in favor of the arms embargo, which was a huge turn of events. And that had escalated, I guess, the foundation of where or the legitimacy in the hearts of the Palestinians in Canada. So they feel very much like all this pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist events that are going on in our streets are very similar to, of course, what's going on in Europe and the UK. Hey, we have Naveed Awan. And I mean, he's out there preaching the hate. He hasn't been arrested or locked up. And I think that his time is coming. We've managed to get some of his social media shut down and de-platforming him. And so it is happening. And so yeah, Trudeau, as far as I'm concerned, he's turned his back on Israel. And as a result, I'm working with a gentleman by the name of Majed El Sheffi from One Free World International, and we started a task force for Israel to change the direction of the support to say, because biblically speaking as a Christian, God says that we're to pray for the peace of Israel, of Jerusalem, and we're to support Israel. That doesn't mean I support Netanyahu. Just like if we had gone at war and America attacked Canada, I would expect the world to be supporting Canadians to say, we support Canada and their right to exist. They don't support a traitor like Justin Trudeau. And so I don't have much, many words about Netanyahu. We don't know the whole story. But at that point, I 100% believe that Israel has the right to exist. And Israel goes beyond the borders as to what was designated to them. Israel encompassed so much more land historically than where they are now. So we're very much about proclaiming the truth, countering Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party's position and the NDP. And yeah, so I don't know where you want to go from there as far as Israel is concerned. And as well, I will go a step further that Trudeau is very much, he's going to fail in the next election. Other than the possibility that they, of course, cheat and do something with the polls. I don't know with this much attention on them how they could do that, but who knows? That's how dictators stay in office, but we've got quite a war. We know that. And so he wants the Muslim vote. He wants the Khalistani Sikh vote. So he is flooding Canada with all of these immigrants, and nobody is expected to integrate and assimilate. And it's it's getting very concerning and so now what he's done is he has promised to bring five to six thousand Palestinians in from Gaza into Canada well back in just.. Let me come down, I just want to, the political side and then I definitely want to get on that because I saw you put up information about that and it's intriguing but what's the, because I know we've had, ages ago, we had Maxime Bernier on, interviewed him, and they have not had the electoral breakthrough we were hoping, maybe the last election. Of course, election cycles come and go, so there's always the future one. But then the Conservatives have changed their leader. What is the kind of pushback on Trudeau? Are the Conservatives actually, have they decided to be Conservative? Conservative, Maxime Bernier's party, is that going to rise up? Because obviously the NDP have fallen completely in bed with Trudeau. So where is the kind of pushback, the opposition to Trudeau? We've got a lot of afraid Canadians who are going to vote for the Conservative Party because they so badly want to vote Trudeau out. And we know what that means when you're voting for a party to get somebody out. It doesn't necessarily mean we're going to be in a greater position. Once the Conservative Party gets in, there are good sitting Conservatives, but they've also been infiltrated by globalists, by people from what they refer to as the left, with, you know, an anti Canadian or anti-Christian viewpoint. And so there are concerns and I'm, actually Maxime's going to be on my show at the end of the month. I was just speaking to him the other day. He's a dear friend. And, I have engaged with Maxime since 2018 is when I first met him personally, met with him in March of 2019, because I wanted to try to help affect the policies of the organization andbe a voice in his ear. So, because I had been working already for four or five years at that point. And I was, it was very clear to me where the Conservative Party had headed, that no matter how many letters we wrote to the Conservative Party, they weren't going to change their view, they weren't going to do the right thing. I mean, they had a majority that, you know, the country was headed in the right direction, but they decided to sign on to some of the, Stephen Harper, he was not actually a friend of Canada's, He was signing on to the Sustainable Development Goals. He had opportunities to appoint judges and senators, and he didn't do that because he was going to appoint some that were LGBTQ friendly, it's reported, and he thought he would lose the election. Well, he ends up losing the election and Justin Trudeau comes in and floods our Senate and the judiciary with activists. And so even our judicial system here in Canada, as you can imagine, it's hard to get things done. But we have a legal action moving forward with Rocco Galati and we're persisting in that. So anyways, with Maxime Bernier, in supporting Maxime, what we've done is we've changed the trajectory, we've changed the political conversation. Because now Pierre Poilievre, who's the head of the Conservative Party, has had no choice because of the rising grassroots movement in Canada, but to start speaking about the issues that are of concern to us. Previously, it was the squeaky wheel that gets the attention that was less than 1% of the LGBTQ, less than 1% of the Muslims, but they were working around the clock and very effective. And so it is vital that people get involved. So the political situation is concerning. Pierre Poilievre has come out and he is finally talking about the LGBTQ issue and the concerns with our children. But as an example of where Pierre Poilievre is at, the other day, an MP from Alberta was in a little interview and he was asked, he's pro-life, he's a strong Christian. And he made it firm that he believes that there should be a law against abortion. And then he was asked if there was a vote regarding same-sex marriage, would you vote against it? And he says, I am, as a Christian, he says, I believe in the traditional family unit. it. Well, not only did the Liberal government, the Liberal Party and the media attack him, but so did Pierre Poilievre. He's such a wimp. I mean, the leaders of the Conservative Party have been so spineless to support what are the traditional values on the Conservative Party's own website. And I've even written to them when Andrew Scheer, I said, you owe, when Andrew Scheer was head of the party, I said, you owe all your members a refund when they voted in same-sex marriage. It says clearly on your website that you support traditional values. This is not a traditional value. And so it is a little concerning still here. But Maxime, he's got so much support. But our problem is that people are afraid to vote for him because they say it'll divide the vote. But it won't. If we get that, I've been having him on and advising. Canadians don't know what the populist movement is. They don't understand nationalism. And so we're educating them on that. And so these big wins in Europe right now are absolutely amazing. Because I feel it is a look at Canada's future because we're a few years behind you on everything. I feel like we're going to get there. So we're going to continue to support Maxime Bernier and push him into a win. I'm even hoping that some of the conservative MPs will do the right thing and cross the aisle. Step over into the People's Party and help get them ignited so that we can truly take back Canada. Yeah, I remember having conversations with friends in the media years ago about People's Party of Canada and discussing Maxime Bernier or back when you had barely heard of him. And it was thanks to Valerie Price that she connected me with Maxime as she connected me with you. So thanks to Val for those connections. But that's the political side. But we touched on the Islamization, and I was at a demo today Well, I didn't mean to be at a demo today. I went to film with Naomi Wolf today outside court. There was a pro-Hamas demonstration, very vocal. And they were against the LSE, London School of Economics, have got students protesting on this issue. And they want to move them on because they want to get back to education, which is what they're about. And of course, the students have gone to court to fight LSE. And we've seen weekly demonstrations through London. And that's why, as Melanie Phillips calls it, it's Londonistan. But what is it like? Are there demonstrations there? How is it affecting kind of universities and education establishments? Because what I saw today was frightening. Students brainwashed because they couldn't even have a rational conversation. It was just they would shout louder at you and wave their fists in your face. And there's no understanding, no meeting of minds, no conversation. But what is it like in terms of demonstrations, in terms of kind of students being captured by this pro-Hamas ideology? Right. So it's very similar to what you're facing, America is facing. And I believe these were all sleeper cells that the Muslims had infiltrated Canada, the UK, America, all Western nations for this purpose. And so I believe that October 7th was just not an attack against Israel it was a planned attack as we're seeing unfold real time in front of us and so that these cells were ignited that they were ready to go and that they are being well funded and there are ties that go back of course to George Soros and other philanthropists that hate the world hate life I don't know why with all their desire to lower the world's population, they don't do us all a favor and do themselves. And it's like, put yourself in one of those little euthanasia death pods and let's get her done, right? Let's make the world a better place. But anyways, yeah, so this is what we're seeing in Canada. This is one of the reasons to go back to education as well. We also have, when we're yelling 911, you know, get your kids out of the education system, home-school them. We have a whole home-schooling page that helps them. We vetted home-school associations across Canada. And we're even advising parents, don't pay to send your kids to university. You'll never recognize them when they're out. And you already probably need to do a little deprogramming from, you know, how they captured them through their time in public education. And so this is what we are witnessing here in Canada as well, the protests. And there's, I refer to this fella Naveed, he's a real agitator and a troublemaker here as far as the pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist community. And he had met with a tech college in Ontario. And he ends up posting and celebrating over the fact that they were in the office demanding their financials. This is all part of the diverse. What do they call it? Boycott BDS boycott. Yeah. Divestment. And so they want to see the financials to see if they're doing any business with any Jewish people in the community, business community or with Israel. And I'm like, how dare you? and and so the there will be teams that will be having conversations to counter that and to go in and say why is it you felt a need to have a conversation with these people and sit down with terrorists you we don't negotiate with terrorists you tell them to get out the door get out the door and then you contact the police and so now we understand what it is that they're doing we're going to be going to these institutions letting them know what their rights are and what they should be doing if terrorists walk in their door, and try to negotiate with them. And I mean, Israel is, it doesn't matter where Trudeau stands on this, Israel is our ally. They're the only democracy in the Middle East. And so we will stand with them, we will support them, and we are working to do whatever we can to counter them and apply a lot of pressure to our police. And to Premier Doug Ford. He came out and he's a lot of talk. And there's been, of course, a church that just recently burnt down. There has been gunshots at Jewish schools. And so he finally came out and said, you know, this is disgusting. We won't tolerate this. And it's like, what are you going to do, Doug Ford? And, you know, you're a useless talking puppet. Let's see you do some action. And so recently there was last weekend an Israeli march. It takes a march for Israel. It takes place every year. It's annual. And Naveed and his mob, his little mob of terrorists, had decided to try to infiltrate. And the police were very much aware of it. They came out in the masses and they shut it down. And just the fact that we're in this position and living like this in Canada is shocking. And so, yeah, we're at war. And I'm calling for, I have a petition for a moratorium on immigration. We want to shut down all immigration from Islamic nations. And I want to see all manifestations of Islam shut down in Canada. Every mosque, which are mostly all our tax dollars, are paying to have them monitored 24-7 because they're terrorist cells. And you know the hate that is rising in Canada that's completely associated specifically with the Muslim population and I know that's not politically correct to use the term Muslim people want to use Islamist or Islamist extremists or Muslim extremists but it's it's all the core is Islam this is not a religion of peace, it's a dangerous political system and I'm not sure if you're aware of the, what do they call that the explanatory memorandum that was in the United States, it was found in a second basement in the Muslim in somebody that was high up in the Muslim brotherhood and it was used in one of the largest cases on terrorism in the United States and is in the Muslim brotherhood so it was basically a document. On how on their plan to infiltrate the west and I'm just going to bring it up here it says in the Muslim brotherhood's own words the process of settlement. Is a civilization jihadist process with all the word means the Ikhwan Muslim brotherhood must understand that their work in America or Canada UK etc is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of believers so that it is eliminated and God's, Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions and this is exactly verbatim what they're doing the government, has I did a huge report on all of this our intelligence has reviewed it they told me it's accurate and if it's accurate we've had our intelligence come out, I don't know if you've heard about all of it right now it's a huge topic in Canada about foreign interference in our government and so we have many elected officials at all levels of government with dual citizenship, they need to be ousted. They need to be removed. Many of them are Muslim and Calistani Sikhs. How stupid are we? And because we're so nice, Canadians that we feel nobody should be discriminated against and everybody should be able to, you know, worship their own God. It's like that doesn't work. Multiculturalism is a complete failure when the host values countries aren't being embraced. And then you tell me where in the 56 Islamic majority countries where I, as a white Christian woman, could sit in office. Tell me how that would work in China, Pakistan, North Korea. In any non-Western, non-Christian nation, tell me where I would be accepted to run for office. So why are we in our Western nations, why are we allowing other citizens from other faiths to run for office? It needs to be stopped all around the, I want to say in every Western nation, UK, because they have infiltrated and they are advancing incrementally their own agenda and trying to shut us down from protecting our sovereignty as a nation. And I'm very upset about that. And I'm not going to be silent. I'm not worried about political correctness. We have a right to protect our borders and to protect our country. And we are a Christian nation. And you come here and you respect that. Or I tell you, we'll pay for a flight and send you back to where you came from. And just on that note, when we're talking, we'll probably lead for a minute to the Palestinians, is that in, I don't know if you saw it, but in Istanbul, Turkey, 1.5 million Muslims came out in support of Palestinians. Wow. It was just this sea, and they all had red flags, or I don't know what they were carrying. It was sort of from this distance. And I'm like, why aren't we shipping all the Palestinians to Istanbul? What is the purpose that Trudeau is so fixated on bringing Palestinians into Canada that pose us a defined, serious threat? No, 100%. I want to get on. I just want to reiterate your point that whenever someone talks about Islamists or Islamism, I immediately think, okay, I understand where this conversation is going. You have no idea of your history of Islam. There is no political Islam that's separate from Islam. Islam is political. It's economic. It's cultural. It's every part of it. And at the end, it sticks religion onto it to package it also. 100% with you on that, Tanya. We've had Robert Spencer on numerous times, maybe four or five times, discussing this, along with many other experts in the field of understanding Islam. But it does fit in. You made the comment there, and you mentioned at the beginning about the Palestinian refugees. And of course, if you want Palestine, you can go to Jordan, really. They can go there. It's a big country, and not many people there stick them there. But it seems as though the Islamic world want the Palestinian issue because they can use it to hit Israel. But yeah, Trudeau, why is Canada wanting to bring people from the Middle East all the way over to Canada? It seems mad. Because his party is dying and he wants the Muslim vote. But I still don't understand the logic there because you can't come into Canada being a non-citizen and vote. And so we've got about a year and four months before our next federal election. And so I imagine he's going to do what Biden is trying to do. They've got a mass invasion going on in the United States and Biden is trying to give them voting privileges and you just can't do that. We're not going to, we can't sit back and allow this to happen. So I'm not sure what's going on with Trudeau. I think it's even bigger than that because back in February we had a huge win. I think he was talking about it after, not long after, it was almost the day after October 7th is when all of a sudden the world and the media propaganda started coming out against Israel. And started making it out, like, because they were reacting, you know, that, whoa, whoa, you know, like, what are you doing? Like, there's innocent Palestinians there. And it's like, can we reflect on World War II for a minute? And where in America and Canada and everybody, the Brits came in and bombed Germany to stop Hitler. What about the innocent civilians then that got killed? It's a very unfortunate part of war. But in this war, I mean, it's even more complicated because the the majority of the Palestinians are involved with Hamas. They fully support them. They were hiding the hostages. I mean, they've got tunnels leading into their homes and weapons. And so to have all of this sympathy for them is absolutely propaganda. And I did a show last night that is in support of, it was very much in support of Israel and trying to continue to constantly bring truth. But Trudeau has done something very shifty. So he started talking in, I think, about December about bringing Palestinians in because to unite them with their families in Canada. And I thought, OK, well, that can't happen because look what the Palestinians are doing in our streets. They pose a significant threat to us as citizens. So that doesn't make sense. And so then I started going to work in the background with Majed. We started meeting with high-ranking officials in Israel to say, if you start shipping Palestinians into the West, who are you going to have left as allies? Look at the mess that Europe and the UK are in because they didn't shut their doors. And I know that, thank God, that Macron is going to be removed and Merkel is still a danger, but she's out and things are really, really changing. But you guys have quite a mess to clean up in deporting those people that illegally invaded your country. Well, we're being invaded in a much more nefarious way. Trudeau is giving them the red carpet. There are plane loads of people coming in. And, you know, it's very under the radar. So the average Canadian doesn't see what's going on. But now, all of a sudden, you're looking around and all these women are wearing hijabs. And I was in, and I don't want to say it by the color of our skin, because my God doesn't care about the color of your skin. He cares about the condition of the heart. But this was a European nation, white, white Christians. And there's nothing wrong with that. If so, then let's start complaining about the fact that, you know, Islam is filled with brown people. Like, how can you berate European nations for having white people? So it's part of a plan. And it's part of to destroy the democracies that we have. But it's all based on Christianity. That's why we were successful. And so we're seeing it really unfold here in Canada. It is a white replacement. I'm just going to come out and say it. That is the strategy. And so we ended up, they agreed. And so they said plus it's very hard to truly vet these individuals and uh you know allow them to leave that's something people can't wrap their heads around is that Palestine is not a state it is a district within Israel so they are under the Israeli government officials direction and so anyways we got that shut down headlines literally said by Mark Miller our immigration minister, that he was pissed off for the fact that things weren't moving along. Same title for Justin Trudeau. We never made it public back then. We've only just made this public that this is the work that Action 4 Canada, along with One Free World International, has been working on. So Trudeau was so fixated that there was a news headline last week that said, first Gazans come to Canada. So Majed is in Israel right now. I'm going, okay, what's happened? What's going on here? He's lying. How is this happening? Well, it ends up even in the article that this family, and of course it's a picture perfect family coming out with their small children and an infant. The poster family from Palestine, not what's potentially coming out of there. And the headline said Gazan's come, but within the article, it said that they had paid to be smuggled into Egypt. So why is Trudeau, who is he dealing with now and negotiating with? It's not the Israeli government. Is he negotiating with the Egyptian government? Who is he negotiating with and why is he doing this? And that was part of the special investigative report I did last week and last night as well, which will be available today on our Rumble page. But something very concerning is going on. And with this huge announcement in these last weeks, I mean, it was already in 2019, the head of our intelligence committee that provides a very in-depth report saying that Canada is under severe threat of foreign interference to the point that our very sovereignty and our chart of rights is under threat. And that's David McGinty that provided that report and his team. Well, he just came out with a new report. And of course, you can compound that over five years as to how much more grave and serious the matter has become. And so the foreign interference has now said that we've got sitting MPs that have been confirmed, have been dealing with foreign interference, and they're refusing to provide those names. And they might not do it until after the next election. Well, that's wrong. And that there are countries that they're dealing with other than they name China and Russia and other countries and they won't name the other countries. Well, who are you... Importing, potentially from those nations, that we should have absolutely zero immigration from, because that could pose a further risk. So yeah, we have terrorists walking our streets, our doors are open. And that's why I started this by saying, Trudeau is 100% guilty of treason. And he needs to be charged and put away forever, put away forever, along with Chrystia Freeland and Mark Miller and his team. Are there actually any Canadians left in Toronto? I don't know. It's been a while since I was there. It's been actually, yeah, it's been a while since I was there. It's terrible. Yeah, it's really scary. I mean, people don't feel safe going out and it's the whole GTA, Greater Toronto area, but it's not there. I mean, I live in Surrey and it's become pretty much the second capital of Calistani Sikhs from around the world. They don't have a real home and so Canada is this easy open door for immigration. So they've decided to set up camp here. We have the second largest Vaisakhi parade in the world here in Surrey. The Islamists are now being, Muslims are now being flooded into Surrey as well. There's reports that because, you know, they get money, some of them up to $84,000 a year with all of the benefits the government is giving them. Our elderly can't make ends meet. We've got disabled and they're offering them all euthanasia so they don't have to pay their pensions I mean I did a special last night with Angelina Ireland on euthanasia in Canada and how it's expanding and it's incrediblyserious the vaccine injured, a woman is paralyzed from the neck down four times she has been offered to be euthanized, it was directly related to this mRNA gene therapy and then we've got veterans calling the veteran helpline who are being offered to be euthanized and so we're being replaced with in immigration we're being flooded with extremists andthe Trudeau is trying to take awaylaw-abiding gun owners to take away their guns and so we're like we're not giving them up and if anything we need to expand them because I was going to mention that I think it was last year on a bus that goes it's kind of a major route that's a couple of blocks away. And a guy yelled Allah Akbar and slit at a guy's throat on the bus. So normally we would hear about that happening in London and, you know, in England. And here we are in Canada. And as well, they're trying to cover that up as far as the news reports and the police are concerned, because the government doesn't want Canadians to see that this flood of immigrants is not a good idea because the minority of the population are responsible for a majority of the crime. And we're talking serious crime. Can I... The term Islamization, can I... How it fits in there? Because... Canada is large, but it's also you've got a French part and you've got an English part. And most countries don't have that sort of separation. Maybe in Belgium you have it with Flemish and the German speaking. But actually you don't normally see that. And the French have traditionally been very proud of their culture. Is there pushback to mass immigration, Islamization in the French part? Or has it been across the board that Canada has capitulated? Well, it's interesting you say that because we only have one province that's official French, and that's Quebec. And the Bloc Quebecois had passed a bill, I can't remember when they did a couple of years ago, against any kind of religious symbols. And so women weren't allowed to wear the hijab. But that also meant that Quebec was strongly Catholic. And so as a Catholic province, all of a sudden, you know, they're saying that crosses also need to be taken down. And I think that they need to very clearly define as a Christian nation we're going to wear all the crosses we want and our education is only going to involve any kind of religious education will be Christian from the Bible and Macron in Quebec I just talked about euthanasia he's very much a globalist and it's very concerning and they have one of the highest euthanasia rates within their province as well. And so there is pushback against the Muslims in Quebec, but not to the degree that's needed. And so it's questionable, the premier in that province and what they're doing. But I would say the majority of the problem is nationwide. And it's not like one province is shutting down. Now, what I will tell you is that I was just listening to John Rustad, and we're going to have a provincial election in British Columbia in October. And the NDP and the Liberals are just, even provincially, they're lost. Like, they've lost their minds. They're filled with these ideologies and globalists. It's like mental illness has taken over within our government positions. And David Eby, John Horgan stepped aside. I think it was getting too hot for him. He's named in our legal action against the BC and federal governments regarding the COVID measures. And anyways, so David Eby was our Attorney General and he stepped into the position as Premier. And, and, any, so the election is coming up and they're losing. So John Rustad is head of a new BC Conservative Party, not tied to the federal Conservatives. And he's in line with removing SOGI 123. But today, he even said, we're going to address immigration. Immigration and I was just sitting there going, doing you know like this little dance it's like wow did I just hear John Rustad say that meanwhile a province over you have Daniel Smith who took over for a globalist Jason Kenney and I think they're doing this good cop bad cop they're removing an elected official taking out the bad cop putting it in with the good cops so that people don't really realize what's going on Daniel Smith is moving forward on parental policies and some good policies, but to get elected, she ended up implementing approving halal banking to get the Muslim vote because the Muslims were lobbying her. And so, I mean, that's approving Sharia law. And so we're going to be working to overturn that. I mean, we need to clean up our whole government. We need to remove all the Muslims. We need to remove the Sikhs. If you're not fully pro-Canada and that's where your interests are, then I'm sorry, you're in the wrong country. We'll pay that one-way ticket for you to sell your things and leave. I'd be happy to do that. But yeah, that's the kind of mess we're dealing with. But that populist movement, the nationalist movement is really picking up in Canada. And there is very good indication that John Rusted is going to win the election in British Columbia. And that will be massive. I've met with John as well and had dinner with him and discussed some of these things. and there's other good people who are speaking in his ear as well. And so once that takes place, it's going to start to have this, again, a stronger ripple effect for other provinces that will also be having elections in the near future. Yeah, well, all the things you mentioned, we've got here. It was David Cameron, Conservatives in 2010 brought in same-sex marriage and made London the premier centre for Islamic finance of the West. And that's where we are now. My last thought, you talked about some leaders pushing back because they have an understanding of what it means for the nation state and what it means to be Canada. Is any of that coming from a Christian viewpoint? because I know certainly in the UK we've very few politicians now have any claim to being a Christian and that's certainly a no-no very different from the us where it's still it's still a thing really for many politicians to talk about going to church and and their faith in the UK we don't in Canada is any of the pushback coming from a belief in God, Christian faith or is it just coming from a concern at what's happening, crushing out Canadian culture? Well, it's moving in that direction. John Rusted, when I spoke with him, he professes to be a Christian, but he's keeping that Christianity sort of under a rock. And part of it is because, you know, the voting, we don't want to, you know, not have the Muslims or the calisthenics, you know, vote for him, even though all of his policies are exactly what those groups of people would want. And but the press the press is there for them to start speaking more on those issues and there's for instance uh the premier of New Brunswick was the first one last year to come out on the rights of parent policies I was shocked and startled and pleased that uh he was doing this his premier Premier Higgs, when I spoke with him last year, I had an opportunity to meet with him in person. I said, could you tell me when exactly it is that you made this decision? What caused you to say, I need to start making decisions on parental policies and start shutting down the LGBTQ? And he professes as well to be a Christian. And he said to me, it was, oh, yeah, it was around April. Well, what Action 4 Canada was doing is every year, it was our first, it was the first year we did that. We just finished our second annual seven-week prayer walk for revival. Bible. And all of our chapter leaders and teams across Canada are going to legislatures, to school boards, to municipalities, and we're praying and walking seven times around these buildings, praying for our leaders, praying for our country, and praying for these demonic ideologies to be demolished, all of these strongholds to come down. Well, he had the idea implanted in his heart exactly when we started the prayer walks. So I give the glory to the Lord for much of what is taking place in Canada. I believe that God is being very gracious to us. All of our countries had turned our back on God in the sense that we were not caring enough about who we were putting in office. What is the heart of this individual? I don't want to hear somebody is a Christian by lip service running for office. What is the fruit in their life? Is there evidence of it in their life? Are they honest? Do they have integrity? Are they fighting the right causes? Does it align with biblical principles? And God has said, anytime throughout history, when you turn your back on God, man, your country is going to come under severe opposition and oppression. So unlimited abortion in Canada, we're one of the only developed countries that doesn't have an abortion law. We are voted in same-sex marriage and sexual depravity. Well, that only takes root and it goes, it doesn't have a limit. And so from there, it went after our kids. And then as well, we didn't respect the top two commandments that you shall have no other gods before me and no idols. And so we've got, we have a right to, If we're going to honor God, we just say, yes, Lord, and let him do the rest. And we're making that happen. We will shut down all manifestations of Islam in Canada. We will shut down these false teachings. And so more elected officials, as we're having these private conversations with them, are seeing the validity in that. Maxime Bernier, since I had first met with him in 2018, he would have called himself a libertarian. He's a nationalist, a populist but he's also a Christian now he also gave his life to the Lord and so he is evolving in his understanding of what the spiritual battle is in Canada and he is acting accordingly and you know he's a newer Christian so he may not be out there. Professing it but I'm seeing it in the works I'm seeing it in what he is doing and so to your viewers, I would just really encourage you, whether you're a Christian or not you can see that even as a non-Christian, living in a Christian nation allowed you more freedoms and democracy than you will have in any of those other non-Christian nations that I've mentioned. They may, some of them, not many of them may be a nice place to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there because most of it, these people, these good people living in those nations are living under the thumb of oppression. And we had freedoms when we were caring about who was in office. And so we just need to return to that. We need to return to biblical principles and living a pure and honest life. A perfect place to end it. And as you have, He is risen. It's about not hiding your light under a bush, as we are told in Matthew, but letting it shine forth. And we are, whoever you are, whether you're watching as someone just private figure or whether you're a public figure, let your light shine. Tanya, thank you so much for joining us. And I know that people can go to actionforcanada.com, sign up to those emails, and also make sure they're following you on Twitter. So thanks so much for joining us and giving us an update, not only what's happening in Canada, but where your work fits in that. So thank you. And thank you, Peter, for having me on. And I want to join you in a shout out to our good friend Valerie Price. I love her dearly. There's only one Val. She's awesome. Thank you so much, Tanya. Thank you. See you again. Bye.
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Continuing our series Conversations & Presuppositions, Drs. Boot and Thiessen are joined this week by Ezra Fellow for Public Policy Tim Dieppe to discuss the steady Islamization of the West.Episode Resources: Questions to Ask Your Muslim Friends by Tim Dieppe: https://amzn.to/3Kc6Uig"Is Islam a Religion of Peace?" by Tim Dieppe | Christian Concern:https://christianconcern.com/resource/is-islam-a-religion-of-peace/;"What’s wrong with Islamic finance?" | Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/whats-wrong-islamic-finance/;"Is Islam Antisemitic?" | Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/is-islam-antisemitic/;"The Challenge of Islam in the UK"| Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/the-challenge-of-islam-in-the-uk/ Chapters:0:00 Cultural Leadership Academy AD1:17 Podcast Opening1:40 Intro & Show Set-up4:20 Ezra Events7:00 Topic Introduction & Palestinian Protest Footage10:03 What is Islam?14:00 Relationship of Islam & Sharia Law16:20 The Islamization of the West23:22 Islamic Finance & Sharia Entryism27:54 Jihad35:30 The Elitist's False View of Islam, the Weaponization of Multiculturalism & a How Radical Two Kingdoms View Helps the Destruction of the West40:45 Islam, Progressivism, and the Massive Rise of Antisemitism in the West50:28 What Can Christians Do About It?54:11 Outro56:55 Closing Credits For Ezra's many print resources and to join our newsletter, visit: https://ezrapress.com. Stay up-to-date with all things Ezra Institute:https://www.ezrainstitute.com.Subscribe to Ezra's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPVvQDHHrOOjziyqUaN9VoA?sub_confirmation=1;Fight Laugh Feast Network: https://pubtv.flfnetwork.com/tabs/audio/podcasts/8297;Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ezra-institute-podcast-for-cultural-reformation/id1336078503;Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0dW1gDarpzdrDMLPjKYZW2?si=bee3e91ed9a54885. Wherever you find our content, please like, subscribe, rate, or review it; it truly does help.
Continuing our series Conversations & Presuppositions, Drs. Boot and Thiessen are joined this week by Ezra Fellow for Public Policy Tim Dieppe to discuss the steady Islamization of the West.
Continuing our series Conversations & Presuppositions, Drs. Boot and Thiessen are joined this week by Ezra Fellow for Public Policy Tim Dieppe to discuss the steady Islamization of the West.
Continuing our series Conversations & Presuppositions, Drs. Boot and Thiessen are joined this week by Ezra Fellow for Public Policy Tim Dieppe to discuss the steady Islamization of the West.
Continuing our series Conversations & Presuppositions, Drs. Boot and Thiessen are joined this week by Ezra Fellow for Public Policy Tim Dieppe to discuss the steady Islamization of the West.Episode Resources: Questions to Ask Your Muslim Friends by Tim Dieppe: https://amzn.to/3Kc6Uig"Is Islam a Religion of Peace?" by Tim Dieppe | Christian Concern:https://christianconcern.com/resource/is-islam-a-religion-of-peace/;"What’s wrong with Islamic finance?" | Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/whats-wrong-islamic-finance/;"Is Islam Antisemitic?" | Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/is-islam-antisemitic/;"The Challenge of Islam in the UK"| Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/the-challenge-of-islam-in-the-uk/ Chapters:0:00 Cultural Leadership Academy AD1:17 Podcast Opening1:40 Intro & Show Set-up4:20 Ezra Events7:00 Topic Introduction & Palestinian Protest Footage10:03 What is Islam?14:00 Relationship of Islam & Sharia Law16:20 The Islamization of the West23:22 Islamic Finance & Sharia Entryism27:54 Jihad35:30 The Elitist's False View of Islam, the Weaponization of Multiculturalism & a How Radical Two Kingdoms View Helps the Destruction of the West40:45 Islam, Progressivism, and the Massive Rise of Antisemitism in the West50:28 What Can Christians Do About It?54:11 Outro56:55 Closing Credits For Ezra's many print resources and to join our newsletter, visit: https://ezrapress.com. Stay up-to-date with all things Ezra Institute:https://www.ezrainstitute.com.Subscribe to Ezra's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPVvQDHHrOOjziyqUaN9VoA?sub_confirmation=1;Fight Laugh Feast Network: https://pubtv.flfnetwork.com/tabs/audio/podcasts/8297;Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ezra-institute-podcast-for-cultural-reformation/id1336078503;Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0dW1gDarpzdrDMLPjKYZW2?si=bee3e91ed9a54885. Wherever you find our content, please like, subscribe, rate, or review it; it truly does help.
Continuing our series Conversations & Presuppositions, Drs. Boot and Thiessen are joined this week by Ezra Fellow for Public Policy Tim Dieppe to discuss the steady Islamization of the West.Episode Resources: Questions to Ask Your Muslim Friends by Tim Dieppe: https://amzn.to/3Kc6Uig"Is Islam a Religion of Peace?" by Tim Dieppe | Christian Concern:https://christianconcern.com/resource/is-islam-a-religion-of-peace/;"What’s wrong with Islamic finance?" | Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/whats-wrong-islamic-finance/;"Is Islam Antisemitic?" | Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/is-islam-antisemitic/;"The Challenge of Islam in the UK"| Christian Concern: https://christianconcern.com/resource/the-challenge-of-islam-in-the-uk/ Chapters:0:00 Cultural Leadership Academy AD1:17 Podcast Opening1:40 Intro & Show Set-up4:20 Ezra Events7:00 Topic Introduction & Palestinian Protest Footage10:03 What is Islam?14:00 Relationship of Islam & Sharia Law16:20 The Islamization of the West23:22 Islamic Finance & Sharia Entryism27:54 Jihad35:30 The Elitist's False View of Islam, the Weaponization of Multiculturalism & a How Radical Two Kingdoms View Helps the Destruction of the West40:45 Islam, Progressivism, and the Massive Rise of Antisemitism in the West50:28 What Can Christians Do About It?54:11 Outro56:55 Closing Credits For Ezra's many print resources and to join our newsletter, visit: https://ezrapress.com. Stay up-to-date with all things Ezra Institute:https://www.ezrainstitute.com.Subscribe to Ezra's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPVvQDHHrOOjziyqUaN9VoA?sub_confirmation=1;Fight Laugh Feast Network: https://pubtv.flfnetwork.com/tabs/audio/podcasts/8297;Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ezra-institute-podcast-for-cultural-reformation/id1336078503;Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0dW1gDarpzdrDMLPjKYZW2?si=bee3e91ed9a54885. Wherever you find our content, please like, subscribe, rate, or review it; it truly does help.
Show Notes and Transcript A warm welcome for the return of Anni Cyrus, host of "Live Up to Freedom" to provide a detailed analysis of Iran's history and its impact on the Middle East. She traces Iran's journey from Zoroastrianism to the Islamic Revolution of 1979, highlighting the societal changes and challenges faced under the Islamic regime. Anni explores Iran's relationships with neighbouring countries like Saudi Arabia and Turkey, shedding light on power struggles and religious divisions in the region. She also discusses Iran's media censorship, political landscape, and foreign policy towards Israel, emphasizing the use of proxies for influence. We end with reflections on the possibilities for change in Iran and its implications for regional stability. Aynaz “Anni” Cyrus is the founder of ‘Live Up To Freedom', she was born in 1983 into an Islamic family in Iran, after the Islamic Revolution removed the Shah and turned the “mini-America” of the Middle East into an Islamic tyranny. Given no choice, Aynaz was labeled as a Muslim by birth. Under Sharia (Islamic Law) she grew up under total Islamic dominance by her father, a Sheikh, and her mother, a Quran teacher. At age nine, Aynaz rejected Islam completely in her heart and mind. It happened on her 9th birthday when the Islamic state, in a public ceremony, declared the absurdity that she would be, from that day forward by law, an adult woman. Over the next six years, Aynaz suffered terrible, but legal by Islamic Law, abuses and punishments at the hands of many Islamic males of Iran. After being forcibly sold by her own father into an extremely violent marriage, Aynaz desperately sought escape from her hell as a child bride. Even after being visibly battered one last time, the Islamic courts denied her a divorce from the man who was clearly bound to beat her to death. So at age 15, facing death by one way or the other, Aynaz got herself smuggled out of Iran, to save her own life. Knowing nothing of the life of freedom for women and girls outside of Iran or Islam, she ran into what she calls “The Unknown.” But her running was a crime, for which, to this day, she stands condemned to death by stoning under Sharia. Aynaz then gained asylum in Turkey through the United Nations. But, as an unaccompanied minor, she was obligated to wait three more years. Finally, at age 18 her petition to become an American citizen was approved. After a further delay following 9/11, Anyaz was allowed entry into the United States on August 8, 2002. She became a naturalized and proud American citizen in 2010. Since 2011, Aynaz has produced the popular Internet video series, “The Glazov Gang”, hosted by renowned author in the counter-jihad movement, Dr. Jamie Glazov. Aynaz also appears in many of the show's hundreds of segments. Years of her media appearances are found in public speaking venues, interviews, videos, and articles, published in affiliation with The David Horowitz Freedom Center, Jihad Watch, Breitbart, American Thinker, Worldview Weekend, and American Truth Project, to mention a few. Connect with Anni….. WEBSITE liveuptofreedom.com GETTR: gettr.com/user/AnniCyrus X x.com/LiveUpToFreedom INSTAGRAM instagram.com/aynazcyrus TELEGRAM t.me/Liveuptofreedom Interview recorded 19.4.24 Connect with Hearts of Oak... WEBSITE heartsofoak.org PODCASTS heartsofoak.podbean.com SOCIAL MEDIA heartsofoak.org/connect SHOP heartsofoak.org/shop *Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast. Check out his art theboschfawstinstore.blogspot.com and follow him on X twitter.com/TheBoschFawstin Transcript (Hearts of Oak) And I'm delighted to have Anni Cyrus back with us again. Anni, thank you so much for your time today. (Anni Cyrus) Absolutely. My pleasure. It's been a while. It has. That's exactly what I was thinking. It has been a while. And current events bring us together with the madness and chaos over in the Middle East. And who better, I thought, than asking on is Anni Cyrus. But first, people can find you @LiveUpToFreedom. Tell us about your show. Just give people, give the viewers, if they don't follow you, give them a taster of what they can find and what you put out. Absolutely. So Live Up to Freedom, which is also the name of my show, we produce two shows a week at the moment, hoping to somehow get to five days a week. But the majority of information that is produced on Live Up to Freedom is related to Middle East, Islamization, Sharia, and the dangers of red-green axis. 90% of the time, this is the type of educational programming. I mean, I don't force my opinion, but I will give you evidence from the Quran, from the Sira, from the Sura, every single one evidence coming from their own word, proving the fact that the possibility of us coexisting, not really possible. I'm with you 100%. And I do want your opinion, full force. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to getting your thoughts. But maybe I can ask you, we have watched what has happened with Israel, obviously, and then watched what has happened with Iran responding. Most of the viewers, whether they're US-based or UK-based, have zero concept of how Iran fits in the Middle East. They may have an understanding of, if they know history, of the Persian Empire. So it is a history that stretches back thousands of years. But today, few people in the West have an idea, I guess, of how Iran fits in. But obviously, you're Iranian-born. You live in the States at the moment. Maybe just touch on that about Iran and how it fits in with that, I guess, illustrious history over the thousands of years? How does Iran kind of fit in to the Middle East jigsaw? Sure. So let me start from here. Since you brought up the Persian Empire, let me just set the record straight about Persians versus Persian Empire. There's this thing going on lately that Persians don't exist because Persia doesn't exist. I want to make it very clear. Iran, as you know it today, is what was of Persia. So by nationality, we are Iranians. By race, we are Persians. Why is this important? Because there's a difference between nationality and race. And that's where actually we get all confused between racism, if you're criticized Islam, because a lot of nations now carry Islam. If you say something against Islam, they're racism Islam. Their race could be Persian, could be Indian, could be Arab. Now, Arab race has a breakdown. Again, Syrian Arabs have their own DNA. Saudi Arabian Arabs have their own DNA. However, there's one group of Arabs that don't have DNA, Peter, and that is Palestinians. The reason it's important to say we're Persians, nationality Iranian, is because we can make the point of there is no such a race as Palestinians. If you would do a DNA test on anyone in Palestine claiming to be Palestinian, you would find the DNAs of Syrian Arabs. You would find Iraqi Arabs. You would find even Egyptian blood. But you wouldn't find a Palestinian race blood because it doesn't exist. Now, I'm going to pull a leftist here and say, if you're willing to call them Palestinian by race, well, I identify as a Persian, so you're going to call me a Persian. That being said, Persian Empire down to a smaller size, down to a smaller size to today, which is a tiny bit of Islamic Republic of Iran, has always been the heart of Middle East. Literally the heart. Depending on how Iran beats, Middle East operates. That's why it's the heart. You go back, we're not going to even go 2,700 years ago. Let's not do that. We could. Cyrus the Great, king of Persia, freed the Jews in Babylon, told them you're free, and there you go. Temple Mount is there. That's how much Persia or Iran has been the heart. But recent, 45 years ago, 47, 50 years ago, when Iran was under the kingdom of Shah Pahlavi, you look at Middle East, there was peace. Prosperity, lots and lots of import and export financially, economy of Middle East was in good shape. Every neighbour country was also in good shape as far as culture, freedom, education goes. Islamic regime took over in a matter of 45 years. Not only Iran itself with all the resources Iran has, and I'm just going to name a few. Iran is number one land of making saffron. We have the second top quality pistachio. I'm not going to even go into the oil industry because everybody's aware of that. And then considering between Afghanistan and Iran, you have the two only countries producing opium. Well, I know some people misuse it, but it still is important material we need. So with all the resources, Iranian people, more than 82% are living life under the line of poverty by international standards. Same thing with the neighbours. You got the Turkey, you got Pakistan, you got Afghanistan, Azerbaijan. That is how much Iran's operation has affected not only Middle East, but over here with Western countries. I hope that answered the question. Oh, it does. I want to go back because we look at Islamic connection with Iran. But if you go, I mean, long time prior to the Islamic revolution in, it was 79, you've got from different breakups of the kingdom. And before that, you had from, I think, from the 20s, the Iranian state. So Islam was not in it. Tell us kind of how Iran kind of fits into that, where it's now known as the Islamic Republic of Iran. But before that, Islam wasn't in the name. Does that mean Islam was not part of the culture? Sure. Yes. So if we go back way back, way back, about 2,700 years ago, all the way to about 1,800 years ago, that period of time, majority of Iranians were known as Zoroastrians. There were some other atheists, there were Jews, there were Christians, all that. But then the Battle of Mohammed started 1,400 years ago. Now, what was the Battle of Muhammad? Muhammad started from Mecca, then went to Medina, then conquered Saudi Arabia. Now, who was the competition? Who was the biggest challenge? Persian Empire. Persia was standing up. They even sent messengers to the king of that time saying, have your people convert to Islam and we'll leave you alone. The king was like, no, we're good. We're not going to force anybody. So the very first time, the very first attack of Islamic attack, which in history books, you read them as Arab attacks. Yes, there were Saudi Arabians, but the attack wasn't about race. It had nothing to do with land versus land or people versus people. It was Mohammed continuing to conquer of Islamization to basically, you know, the global caliphate, which then global was just that area. The first attack happened. They couldn't conquer. The second one couldn't conquer on and on and on and on for a long time. In meantime, some of the Iranians or Persians decided to convert by choice, by choice, until one of the Iranians who by choice converted decided to become a traitor and basically start cooperating with the Arabs. That was the first time I want to say about probably 800, 700 years ago is when the first time of conquering people of Persia happened. A lot of Zoroastrians escaped. They went to India. That's why you see somewhat the biggest population of Zoroastrians are found in India. They took refuge in India. Some converted, some were killed, some became dhimmis and gradually either converted or died and fast forward all the way to almost, I want to say, 90, 92 years ago, when one of the kingdoms of Iran on the Qajar, or you guys pronounce it Qajar dynasty, they actually ruled under Islam. The king in the kingdom decided we will rule under, the full hijab came to the country. The full mosque building started. And then Pahlavi dynasty returned that. They didn't get rid of Islam, but they did return the country into America, freedom of religion. If you want to be a Muslim, be a Muslim. If you want to be Christian, be a Christian, anything. Until the first king, Pahlavi, decided to actually ban Sharia in Iran. Nobody was allowed to wear hijab, mosques were shut down. And surprise, surprise, England and France got involved and told him that you're going to lose power if you don't give them their freedom back. So the decision was the father will step down, the son will take over. And they will allow Sharia to continue. On top of that, they will allow one representative of Islam or Muslim community of Iran to step into Congress. The rest is history. Literally 20 years later, Islamic revolution happened and it has never gone back. But it's not just Iran, I guess, has a history. Think Egypt having a long history. Lebanon, I know, reading the Bible and you hear about the cedars of Lebanon. And then you think of Saudi Arabia and you think of the House of Saud. But a long time before that, there were different emirates in that area. And some of those countries have been artificially created, maybe like Jordan. But other countries actually have got a history of thousands of years. How does that work? Because as a Brit, I think of Europe and the struggle with the nations in Europe for dominance with France, Spain, with the UK. What is that kind of struggle like in the Middle East with those countries that have a long history? Well, another country we can name is Afghanistan. If you look, Afghanistan is a pretty recent conqueror of Islamization. Right around 1979 when Iran was conquered, very shortly before that, Afghanistan was conquered. Afghanistan has a long history of battling back and forth and by the way I sometimes feel like people of Afghanistan are not getting the credit they deserve they have such a long and pure history, cultural music involved in art involved they have some of the most unique musical instrument you find out there that is now westernized and used but nobody knows because everybody thinks Afghanistan was, you know, Islamic country from day one, and Afghans were all Muslim. That is not what it is. Now, that battle, with Saudi Arabia, you need to realize when Mohammed, you know, came up and said, I am the prophet, the majority of people in Saudi Arabia were. I can't pronounce the English, when you believe in more than one god, polygamous? Is that the word? Polytheism? There you go, polytheism. So with Saudi Arabia, there is a much deeper root of Islam. It was literally the first introduced religion that unified the country. It did, or nation. But the rest of Middle Eastern countries those who are not as you said artificial those that existed they were none of them has any roots, none of them, that's the thing sometimes we have this saying in Middle East is like, oh you're just a Muslim born, meaning you're not really Muslim and I'm like, that doesn't exist, it doesn't because nobody the root, except of Saudi Arabia, there is no other race or nation that was the start. So that the struggle for every single Middle Eastern country back and forth between this. Now, again, I even during the Pahlavi kingdom, Peter, nobody minded Muslims. Nobody did because it wasn't the constitution. You wanted to be a Muslim, be a Muslim. But then on the other end of the city, you would find, you know, restaurants and bars and concerts. And women with short skirts. The struggle in Middle East even as recent as two years ago in Afghanistan. It's the matter of literally forcing this Islam into the country rather than allowing it, which is one of my main arguments. if this religion is such a religion of peace, why is it that wherever it goes it's forced, feared, blood involved. If it's so peaceful why can't they get people to convert on their own, but rather have to force them to do it. So that has been the struggle of last literally 1400 years. Today, you find people from Saudi Arabia who reject Sharia. They don't want their constitution to be Sharia anymore. Now, do we have Sharia-based constitution in Western countries? No. But are many of them already living life under Sharia? I would say, for example, London is a great city to name. I have not been to London because they won't let me come to England. But the last time I left London was January of 2011. And sometimes when I look at some of the videos or live feeds coming from London, like that's not where I was. That's not what I remember of London. So not to make it even longer than I did, if Western countries don't realize that there needs to be an absolute cap and limitation, the struggle of Middle East will start coming here, where you constantly have the battle of Islamization, de-Islamization, Islamization, de-Islamization, and gradually the culture will disappear. I hate to say it, when I look at my fellow Iranians today, there isn't much of Persian culture left anymore. it's something of a confused Arab versus Persian, versus Sharia, versus Western. It's a very mixed up where, sadly, you can't really pinpoint anything left of that land or country or culture and behaviour of the people. Half of the Farsi they speak, I don't even understand. I'm like, what is that? Any of the leaders, they started talking. I'm like, okay, you're not a speaking Farsi. It's full on Arabic at this point. Tell me, when I talk, and I want to get up to the current day where we are, but I'm curious because I talk to a lot of my African friends, especially in church, and you realize that African nations are tribal-based and there is more allegiance to the tribe than there is to the nation. We look at Nigeria and it's completely separated on tribal lines. What is it like for a country like Iran? Iran is a large country, nearly 90 million, so it has influence in that regard. How does it work when people call themselves Iranian or me? How has it worked prior to the Islamic Revolution in 1979? Where is that kind of identity and connection for Iranians who lived there prior to the revolution? That's actually an interesting question. One of the top things I did a few years ago, one of the things I mentioned about Iran that many people are not aware of is the majority of Iranians are actually bilingual by about age 9 or 10. Because Iran, as of today still, it has, if you look at the map, the south versus northeast versus west. They are tribes, not the African style of tribe, but they do have their own tribes where you have the Kurds who are still within their own culture. Their customs are still the old school, traditional Kurdish. They speak the Kurdish language at home and then they speak the Farsi language, which is the country's language. And then you have the Turks in Tabriz and some of those areas. Again, the food and the music and the language is the Turkish. And again, this is because you shrunk this huge empire down into the small size of the country. A lot of tribes are still in there. You have the Fars, literally, who are the pure Persians, the only non-bilingual people of Iran who only speak Farsi, have the traditional customs of Persia, the way they do their Norse versus the rest of the provinces. Says it's different however somehow for some reason it has always been united regardless of who's from which side or which background, doesn't matter if you're the Arab of the south or if you're the Kurd or you're the Turk or you're the Fars it has always been united until the Islamic revolution, where the country became divided based on Muslims versus non-Muslims. And when I say non-Muslim, Peter, I don't mean Christian or Jew. No, I mean non-Muslims in eyes of the government. Those like Mahsa Amini, who don't wear the proper hijab. Those who don't do the prayer the right way. Those who wear the makeup. Those who have boyfriend or girlfriends, which is against Sharia. Those are the secondary group of people. Tell me about when you think 45 years ago, the revolution, what does that mean for freedom within the country? I know it's claimed to be 99% Muslim, but not just religious, but general freedom within the country. What is it like to live in the current, I guess regime or government in Iran? I'm so glad you asked that I was having a discussion with a friend of mine literally yesterday about this, that it has come to a point where the the lack of freedom isn't, isn't just about your, what you say or what you wear or what you eat anymore. The lack of freedom has gotten to a point where a majority of Iranians, especially the younger generation have lost absolute motivation, that the answer always is, well, so what? Like, why don't you go get a job? It's like, then what? Why don't you go to school? Do what with it? You literally have Uber drivers it's not Uber, it's called a snap I think in Iran, when they pick you up snap, you sit in the car and by the way for those of you, yes I have not been back to Iran but I do have people who are in Iran or just came back from Iran so the information comes from there, now I'm not smuggling myself back. You start talking to the driver and he will tell you that he holds a darn PhD, Peter, but there's no job for him, either because he doesn't belong to IRGC or SEPA or this group of Islam or that group of Islam, or it's the fact that somewhere somehow when he was younger, got arrested and has some sort of morality police stamp on his resume. So he won't be hired or it's the matter of, he is not a Muslim. He's a Baha'i. He can't admit he's a Baha'i. They're going to kill him, so he'd rather drive his own taxi than go get killed. It's just literally there is zero motivation to do anything with your life because one way or another, you'll be blocked by this regime. Genuinely, they wake up in the morning, change their mind about the latest law, and there's nothing to stop them. There is nothing that could stop them from changing the laws every hour. Every house supreme leader can literally wake up this morning and say colour red is forbidden for women, I dare you wear red, They will arrest you. They will probably put you in detention centre. They will drag you to Sharia court and then probably, I don't know, lash you a couple of lashes and you home. Make an example out of you. Nobody else can avoid a wreck. Now, I'm making this up as an example, but to that, the small detail of life is being controlled. Tell us how, within the country, what does it mean for the media? What does it mean for, I mean, some countries like Dubai want to be outward. Focused but still want to be Islamic where other countries like Saudi it's maybe less, so it's wanting to have that pure Islam and there is a less focus on being outward looking, when you think of Iran you think of something which is a closed box because of the devotion to Islam and that cuts off the West so what does that mean within, for education, for media? Okay, so we need to explain something before we even answer that question. By we, I mean me. I identify as... Media in Iran. There is no... private or alternative media. There's just one type of media, which is owned by government, ran by government, approved by government, everything government. There are, I believe six channels of cable, only six. One is dedicated to news. One is dedicated to sports. And the other three, one is dedicated to religion actually. Most of the time, it's like some Mullah sitting there dissecting and fat buzz and Corona and stuff. And then there are two, that is a combination movies, TV series, commercial news, a little bit, things like that. Now, why am I breaking it down is because it is so extremely controlled that it's only six, Only six. For example, the sport channel, you'll never find any kind of female competition inside or outside of Iran out there. You just don't. They cover all of the European leagues, right? The soccer leagues. And you literally see that if they pass by a female audience in a stadium who is wearing makeup or open hair, you literally see them blurred out and then you come back to zoom back in. To that extent what is being aired inside the country's control You can make a movie in Iran, but before you make a movie you got to take your script and your crew names to this department that's going to read the script, either approve it or tweak it then approve it or reject it, if you get approved on your script then you go make the movie, but before you air the movie Peter they will watch how you make this script. If they find one scene, just one scene that they don't like, they'll have you go either redo it, edit it, come back again. A movie can take seven years to be released or two minutes to be rejected. Doesn't matter how much you spend on your movie. It's done. Won't never come out. So that's the internal. Now, they have one, Tenseem is the name of it. I actually report from it a lot. They have one, let's say, kind of like an article or text formatting website that is tied to the regime. And then they have their own Islamic Republic of Iran's broadcasting website. Those are the ones that are being fed propaganda and lies to be published because we outside have access to that. We read that where it makes it look like the country is flawless and people are super happy and the elections are going fantastic, that is the one for external use that is mainly filled with propaganda And how does politics work? How does, are there elections, were there elections before, how does that work in the country? Yes there are, there are selections. There are selection election however it's in your best interest to show up for this election, because one they can create a lot of propaganda video and put it out, number two, now in Iran when you vote they actually stamp like you use your index on a stamp and they you put it on your birth certificate which Iranian birth certificates are like a lot of booklets, now if you have that a printer means you voted. And for example, at the end of the year, when they're giving away coupon for chicken or egg or oil or whatever it is, if you have that fingerprint, you get your coupon. If you don't, well, good luck, go buy it out of your own pocket. So it's a selection coordinated to look like an election. And if you don't show up, well, there are consequences. [Hmm tell me how it, is the focus with Iran with the leadership, is it for dominance within the region and then you're clashing with the other Islamic nations or is it with the destruction of Israel because Iran and Israel don't border, think isn't Iraq between them if I my middle eastern geography is bad so feel free to correct me, but how does it fit in, what is the goal? Is it regional stability and power within the region, or is it focused on hatred towards Israel? Can I go with all of the above? Is that an option? Internally, the regime or the mullahs, internally, main focus is to re-establish a stability. Because literally from 2009 and the Green Movement, on and on and on, they have lost that stability. Every time there's an uprising, it's becoming a stronger, longer, stronger, more planned. So they're trying to gain that stability they had for the first, I don't know, 27 years of their power. That's number one internally. Now, how do they gain that is by creating some sort of dilemma or war for the people of Iran to stand down because they're, at the end of the day, if you look at the history of Iran-Iraq war for eight years, eight years, people of Iran fought. And I can tell you, I have heard directly from the soldiers or from children of those soldiers that they have always said, we didn't fight for the mullahs. We fought for our country. Okay. So with that, if there is a war going on, even if it's a small, even if it's not a major, it doesn't have to be an eight years war, but the regime can reestablish that stability inside. They do have hatred for Israel. I repeat, when Khomeini arrived in Tehran in 1979, he was driven from the plane airport to the biggest and most, I don't know why it's famous, but famous cemetery in Tehran. They put a chair, he sat on it, and he started talking. The very first thing that came out of his mouth was, let the plan begin. We're going to take down the great Satan and wipe Israel off the map. Now, 47 years ago, they already said what they're planning to do. So that's that. They want to wipe Israel off the map. Is it mainly religious beliefs? Yes. But also, it's the fact that they know that as long as Israel exists, Iran will not be able, in any shape or form, or the government of Iran, rest easy knowing they have the land forever. But you've got a, I mean, you could have countries coming together with a focus on a common enemy, which is Israel for everyone. But then you've got, you've got obviously Lebanon and Syria basically failed states, but then you've got Turkey and Saudi and Egypt and the Emirate, Dubai wanting to assert themselves. So is there no coming together against a common enemy? Because Iran seems to be very much still out in the cold in regards to relations with other nations around it. That's a good question. I highly doubt that Iran and Saudi Arabia would ever come together. Again, going back to 1400 years ago, this battle didn't start yesterday and it's not going to end tomorrow. That Saudi Arabia versus Iran, or better yet, Arabs versus Persians war, a battle has been going on for a long time. And is Saudi Arabia targeting Israel enough to put themselves in this scenario? I doubt it. As far as Turkey is concerned, right now, Erdogan is doing a lot of talking. But remember, Erdogan needs to be very careful because they don't want to be kicked out of EU. This much of the country is in Europe. The rest is in Middle East. They worked so hard to squeeze themselves into EU. He's going to have to be very careful because he won't have the allies he has today. If he's kicked back into full on Middle East, that's when Iran is going to come after him. Iran and Turkey on paper, it might seem all good, but Iran and Turkey don't get along either. All the way from the Caliph of Sunnis until today, the Sunni versus Shia scenario has been going on between Turkey and Iran. So I know Erdogan does a lot of talking. I don't believe unless Russia gets involved, Turkey won't get involved. That's the only time Turkey will get involved because now Turkey has the approval of Russia to get involved and back Iran. So let me jump up to the present day. And if my research serves me correct, I don't think Iran has actually struck at Israel since the revolution. And this seems to be from what I've understood knowing little about Iranian politics but it seems to be the the first attack on Israel. Is that correct and how does what Iran have done, the attack on Israel, how does that change things in the region? You are correct. Yes since 79 until today there has never been a direct, a strike or attack from Iran toward Israel. But I go back to the fact that we need to acknowledge they are playing it this way, but we need to remember this attack directly was by IRGC. IRGC is Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. It is not Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Were they put together by Khomeini? Absolutely. Do they belong to the government of Iran? No, there are their own entity freely guarding all Islamic nations. That's why you have their children such as Hezbollah and Houthis and Hamas out there. That being said, I don't, this is not going to be pleasant to a lot of your audience, but I'll say it. Iran's strike or IRGC's strike or Israel's airstrike. Neither one of them were strikes. This just doesn't look like anybody's planning to do anything major. Both Iran and Israel have the military needs, means, sorry, wrong word. To do real damage if they wanted to, This whole, in Farsi, we laugh and say, you know, they knock at each other's door and run and hide. Seems like that's what they're doing. They send a couple of missiles, yeah, 300, lots of missiles and drones, but then they call and say, heads up, in about an hour, hour and a half, fix up your iron dome so we're about to arrive. When was the last time Hamas gave a heads up? Right? October 7th happened, catching everybody off guard. And they left a mark. You know what I mean? This Iran Saturday strike and this Israel striking back, which by the way, Iran is absolutely denying the existence of this attack back. And that's what you need to look at. Iran goes saying, okay, we attack, this is it. If you attack back, we're going to be in a split second, we're going to destroy Israel. Israel attack back and Iran denies it. It ignores it, never happened. Does that look like something is about to change in the Middle East? No. This is all tied back to Western countries. In America, we're in election year. We're in election year. Whatever happens over there can definitely help Biden over here. Europe is in pretty much a lot of chaos. The tests run up. Are they going to sit back and let us do whatever we want to do? Or are they going to dare try to rescue and get attacked in their own countries with our sleeper cells? That's all there is to this I'm not downplaying anything but I know both countries, I've heard and I've seen the capability of both ends, this doesn't look like something that's going to turn into world war three, that's not going to happen No you're right when I read the reports a day before, 100 rockets are going to be fired over and talking to people and they said seriously who gives their enemy that much notice and then the next day 100 came over to the number. So you've got that a show of strength and I get that as a show of strength, especially drones taking three to four hours and it shows you what you can do, but with Iran having so many proxies, I mean Hezbollah are a serious threat to the region and seemingly much more dangerous than Hamas are and they're embedded in Lebanon and Syria. How does that play and does Iran not just use a proxy like Hezbollah to attack Israel instead of firing over what, drones that take four hours? That's not a serious attack, but Hezbollah do seem to be serious. Yes, exactly. And that's where I put my thought process. I'm like, OK, you have Hezbollah and you have Hamas. And again, I go back to October 7. It shocked all of us. Not because we weren't expecting Hamas to be so barbaric. No, it was the fact that nobody called anybody to say, okay, so tomorrow at your music festival, we're coming. That's how you do serious damage. You have Hezbollah, you have Hamas. And I'll go back to what I've said many times, and I've been accused of many things. Israel is not going to take on Iran. You know why? Israel has what it takes to take on Hamas, and they never did. They haven't. I was looking on my Facebook page, and last year, this week, is exactly when this Hamas-Israeli situation was going on, and Biden was on the phone asking for a ceasefire, which Israel ended up doing the ceasefire. Every year. It's a pattern. It just happens. But for anybody to either get excited or get nervous that something's going to come out of this, no. Hezbollah is regrouping, yes. Israel is talking about possibly going into Lebanon, yes. Is any of this going to put an end to this back and forth? I highly doubt it. I do. In no shape or form is it in benefit of anyone involved with globalist groups or elite or deep state. None of whom have any interest in ending this conflict in Middle East. So it's not going to end one way or another, and it's not going to even start. Again, it's that time of the year where everybody needs to get a little dusty in Middle East, and then everybody's going to go home and next year we'll repeat. That's just the way things go. Unfortunately, as much as I wish somebody would finally put their foot down and say enough is enough, nobody's going to do that. They are just giving a break to Hamas for now. While Hezbollah is regrouping IRGC is doing a lot of manoeuvring, And that's it. Now, why is Israel not standing up? Well, that one is a question for Netanyahu. It's interesting watching because, obviously, Israel didn't deal with Hamas before. It's now been forced to deal with Hamas. And Israel are going to do what it takes. That's how it seems. And whatever force is needed for them to secure their security, they will go for. But I guess the Islamic nations have been happy for Hamas to be a thorn in the side and for the Palestinians to be a thorn in the side of Israel because that keeps Israel's defence spending high, it keeps their a threat level high, it keeps that fear, it's perfect to kind of keep Israel nervous and not let them kind of relax a constant state of war I guess. What does it mean if Hamas are removed to a degree? Does it then, do those nations around think, what's next? Does Hezbollah then have to come in and provide that? What does that mean for stability? Because it does seem the country has been happy to sit back and let Hamas do the, let's piss off Israel role. Well actually to emphasize on your point, Hamas and Palestinians were put there exactly for that purpose, now I brought this up a couple of times that we call, I don't, but Western countries you call them Palestinians but if you talk to them, talk to Rashida Talib, for example, and listen to their chants on the streets of UK, France, US, Canada, anywhere, you don't hear Palestine, you hear Philistine. It's Philistine. The enemies of Jews, Philistine. They were picked. This name wasn't specifically picked. Their location wasn't specifically picked. That's one of the reasons when it comes to the argument of Palestinians versus Israel or the Gaza border. I just opened this up. First of all, you don't find an Arab-speaking person who can say Palestine. Again, my mother tongue of Farsi was not Farsi. It's Parsi. Parsi, the language of the Pars people of Persia. It turned into Farsi because in Arabic language there is no character as P they don't say Pepsi they say Bepsi, how do you expect them to say Palestine, no we have turned that into Palestine so we hide the fact that they are the Philistinians the enemies of Jews, so they are put in place and named specifically for that reason. Now, if Israel for any reason would finally come to realize that let's just take him out once and for all, and yes, taking out Hamas is very much doable. And that way, they will force the hands of IRGC and Hezbollah of Lebanon to actually take action. That's when Israel will have what they need legally by international law to actually overthrow the regime of Iran. But they won't. Yeah, and with the Palestinian, we've had Robert Spencer on maybe a month or six weeks ago, and I enjoyed his Palestinian myth book. So 100% with you that it is a made-up terminology. Can I just finish off on Iran and you've been great at giving us a broad sweep I think to help us understand, because many of us are completely unaware of not only where the countries fit in together but where Iran fits in, but what does it mean for Iran and freedom because you want individuals to be able to choose where they live, how they live and to decide they don't want the constant state of tension with their neighbours. What does it mean for Iran going forward? Is there a chance of a revolution in Iran from the people to overthrow the regime and have something which cares about people's rights and freedoms? Or do you not have any great hope for that happening in the near future? This might come as a surprise if... Lord willing, comes November, and we get President Trump back in the office. Within months, there will be an uprising in Iran. The last two times people of Iran tried, unfortunately, once was during Hussein Obama, once was Biden, they couldn't get the help they needed. They couldn't get the Biden regime or Obama regime to put sanctions and pressure on the regime. So they ended up losing a lot of lives, either by being killed or being imprisoned and tortured daily. So they went home. I know for a fact, if President Trump is back in office, people of Iran will try again. Will they be successful? That's when the Israeli government comes to picture. Again, Iran by itself, people of Iran, first of all, remember, they don't have a Second Amendment. Not only that, there are no illegal guns to be bought either. The borders are extremely protected in Iran. You can't even smuggle them into the country. So they're always empty handed. Secondly, the very first thing that happened is the regime cut down, cuts off the internet access to the people, which adds the agony of now what? How do we get the message out? How do we get the people to put pressure on the government? So Israel and America's government play a huge role of what will happen internally in Islamic Republic of Iran next. We need all these sanctions back. We need a lot of economic pressure back on Iran, and we need Israel to keep pushing back. Then people of Iran will have what it takes to finally overthrow these people. Am I hopeful? Always. There's always hope. As Robert Spencer said, it's not over until it's over, and it's not over yet.
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Show Notes and Transcript The current Israeli-Gaza war has sparked much debate focussing on geo politics and historical land disputes. But few dare ask if Islam is the root cause of the ongoing tension. Robert Spencer has studied Islam for 3 decades. His dozens of books and the Jihad Watch website are all go to sources of background information on Islam and the history behind it. He returns to Hearts of Oak to ask if this is a religious problem and we start by looking at what Islam actually says about the Jews. The aggression and vitriol throughout Islamic text and the history of behaviour towards the Jewish people is an eye opener to all of us. Armed with this deeper understanding Robert then touches on how the term Palestinian was invented. The history, leader, flag and culture had to be invented as it was all non existent before. His short book "The Palestinian Delusion" goes into much more detail and is a recommended read. Enjoy the interview and get ready to see this current conflict in a whole new light. 'The Palestinian Delusion: The Catastrophic History of the Middle East Peace Process' on Amazon https://amzn.eu/d/cPigAab Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He is the author of twenty-seven books, including the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam, The Truth About Muhammad and the bestsellers The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS and The Critical Qur'an: Explained from Key Islamic Commentaries and Contemporary Historical Research. His new book is Empire of God: How the Byzantines Saved Civilization. Spencer has led seminars on Islam and jihad for the FBI, the United States Central Command, United States Army Command and General Staff College, the U.S. Army's Asymmetric Warfare Group, the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), the Justice Department's Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council and the U.S. intelligence community. He has discussed jihad, Islam, and terrorism at a workshop sponsored by the U.S. State Department and the German Foreign Ministry. He is a senior fellow with the Center for Security Policy. Connect with Robert and Jihad Watch... X x.com/jihadwatchRS @jihadwatchRS WEBSITE jihadwatch.org/ Interview recorded 26.3.24 Connect with Hearts of Oak... WEBSITE heartsofoak.org/ PODCASTS heartsofoak.podbean.com/ SOCIAL MEDIA heartsofoak.org/connect/ SHOP heartsofoak.org/shop/ TRANSCRIPT (Hearts of Oak) It's wonderful to have Robert Spencer back with us again. Robert, thank you so much for your time today. (Robert Spencer) Always good to talk to you, Peter. Thank you. Great to have you on. Always good to have guests on talking about their books. We'll get into a book that I've been delving into and got a couple of months ago, but only picked it up recently and have read it. We'll get into that in a moment. But obviously, you can find Robert: that is his Twitter handle, @jihadwatchRS. And obviously jihadwatch.org is the website. You can find everything in the links below. Make sure and use it. Make sure and sign up to it. One of the latest, I think the latest piece on that, and we're doing this just two days before the video goes out, is the U.S. Supreme Court gives Hamas-linked CAIRE a 9-0 thumbs up. And CAIR obviously is the Council on American Islamic Relations. I encourage you to delve into that, which gives some of the geopolitics, I guess, that lies behind some of the difficulties that the U.S. Faces as it engages and grapples and understands Islam, which is a massive subject. But the book that I've been delving into and enjoying is The Palestinian Delusion. Short book, 200 pages. And if you want to understand what is happening at the moment in the Middle East, I would encourage you to get a hold of a copy. Available US, UK, wherever you are. The links are in the description. Grab it. And I know you'll want to get it after this interview. But , I do want to get into modern day; what is happening? But right at the beginning, chapter two; chapter one is about the formation of Israel. If we just go on to chapter two, does religion, specifically Islam, lie at the root of the problem? What are your thoughts, Robert? And of course, you delve into this in chapter two. Yeah, absolutely, Peter. Islam is what the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is all about. If you look at the messages from Hamas, from Palestinian Islamic Jihad, from Fatah, from the Palestinian Authority itself, they are all about Islam all the time. Yet that is the one aspect of this conflict that is universally ignored by policy analysts and by policymakers in the West. Every attempt at a negotiated settlement initiated by the President of the United States or any other entity over the last 50 years has completely ignored, 100% ignored, Islam as a factor in this conflict. And yet, from the standpoint of the Palestinian Arabs, that's what it is all about, and we ignore it to our own detriment. Now, chapter two is entitled The Roots of the hatred of Israel. Hatred is a very strong word, Robert, is it not? Yes, but it's entirely accurate in this case, because what we are dealing with is not only a hatred, but what has been termed the longest hatred, that is the hatred of the Jews, which of course is not solely the province of Muslims or Islam, but, many people in the West don't realize that there even is such a thing as Islamic anti-Semitism. Yet, it is very real and it is at the roots of the problem between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs today. Now, we all hear the term Islam being one of the great Abrahamic religions, and yet there doesn't seem to be a lot of love for the Jews in Islam in the text and the history. Do you want to just let us know; because that is a different side that many people will certainly not hear in the legacy media. Yes. Islam, the Quran teaches that Islam is the third revelation after the revelation of the Torah and the Gospel. That is the core scriptures of the Jews and the Christians, and that it confirms the message of the Torah and the Gospel. And that Moses and Abraham before him, and Jesus after him, and all the other prophets in the Bible, in both the Jewish and the Christian scriptures, are people who taught Islam. Islam was the original religion of all the prophets. We can see this particularly in chapter 3, verse 67 of the Quran, which says Abraham was not a Jew or a Christian. He was a Muslim. And you might wonder, well, this doesn't make any sense. How could Abraham be a Muslim when Muhammad is the originator of Islam in the 7th century and Abraham is many, many centuries before that? The Islamic answer is that Islam is the original religion of all the prophets and that it was their followers who twisted their teachings to create Judaism and Christianity. The only legitimate expression of the true teachings of the prophets is Islam. And that being the case, the orthodox mainstream understanding among Muslims of Judaism and Christianity is that they have no legitimacy at all. Now, this is a very important point because, then the Quran commands Muslims to fight against and subjugate the Jews and Christians, among others. And it's in part because of their rejecting the true faith and corrupting their scriptures, although that part comes from Islamic tradition. Now, the difficulty that people have with this arises from the fact that Islamic spokesmen in the West very deceptively, frequently, refer to how much they as Muslims revere and respect figures such as Abraham and Moses and Jesus himself himself. And so Jews and Christians who are uninformed about Islam hear this and they think, isn't that wonderful? How generous and open-minded and ecumenical they are. And we should do the same. We should reciprocate by acknowledging Muhammad as a prophet. And they don't realize that the Muslims do revere and respect Abraham and Moses and Jesus and the rest of them, but as Muslims, not as they are portrayed in Judaism and Christianity. I mean, everything seems to be on the terms of Islam. I knew your book: Did Muhammad Exist? Actually, I think we need to remind ourselves of the world that Muhammad, if he did exist, was born into, which wasn't an Islamic world as we know today. It was a very different world. Yes. North Africa, the Middle East, what we think of today as the heart of the Islamic world, those were Christian lands. They were 99% Christian from Morocco all the way across North Africa and throughout the Middle East. And so it was the conquest initiated by the Arabs beginning in the 630s that ultimately led to the Islamization of those various nations and the steady diminishment of the Christian population. But, it's important to keep in mind, Peter, that the Christian population did not decline because the Christians were gradually convinced of the truth and beauty of Islam. Rather, they were subjugated, as the Quran directs, under the hegemony of Islamic law and denied basic rights in the societies that had been conquered. And the only thing they had to do to free themselves from the oppression of living with this denial of rights was to convert to Islam. And so many people did over the centuries, such that, for example, Egypt was 99% Christian when the Arabs invaded, and now it's about 10% Christian. The Christians didn't all leave. They just converted to Islam over time, because of the pressure placed on non-Muslims. Well, maybe as the world talks about repatriations, especially in the BLM movement, maybe Christians need to get some of that from Egypt. Yes. If there were real reparations for slavery and for oppression, then yes, the Christian population of the entire Middle East and North Africa would be owed an immense amount of money. But nobody's talking about that. I guess we hear the term anti-Semitism and we're told that any feeling of anti-Semitism from Islam is purely misplaced and doesn't lie at the heart of it and this seems to be this distinction between kind of rogue Islamic preachers, but actually key text and that seems, I think commentators seem to want to make a wide gap between that. Yet, as you point out, this term anti-Semitism, it lies right at the basis of Islam from 1300, 1400 years ago. Yes, absolutely. The Qur'an says in chapter 5, verse 82, that the people who are most intense in hostility to the believers will be the Jews, as well as the polytheists. Now, what this works out to in practice is that the Jews are the recipients of the most hostility from the Muslims. This is also because this is not an isolated passage, but the Quran is full of passages depicting the Jews in a negative light, depicting them as schemers who plot against the plans of Allah himself and try to foil them. Who crow about the limits on the power of Allah, saying Allah's hand is chained. That's chapter 5, verse 64. They were transformed into apes and pigs by Allah for their disobedience. That's chapter 2, verses 62 to 66, rather. Chapter 5, 59 and 60, and 7, 166. and many, many, other passages all the way through the Quran depict the Jews as being rebellious against Allah and essentially enemies of Allah. Then the Islamic tradition is even worse and the Jews are depicted as plotting against Muhammad, trying to kill Muhammad, being massacred by Muhammad and punishment for their plots to kill him. Jewish woman poisons Muhammad and this ultimately leads to his death and so on. They're the real villains of the entire tradition. And this carries through to the modern age where Judaism and Jews are so stigmatized in the Islamic world that several ex-Muslims have spoken about moving to America or moving to Europe and encountering actual Jews for the first time and being shocked that they were not evil, horned creatures, devils in human form, trying to disrupt human society in every way, but just ordinary people like everybody else, some good, some bad. And they had no frame of reference to understand this, because Islam is so unanimous and monochromatic in depicting them as evil. I think if someone is watching this as a Christian, they will understand the Bible as the text that they live by, which is full of stories, explains things, not really chronological, but actually, you can read it and you can grasp a lot of its meaning. And that stands by itself outside the Christian traditions, really. Islam seems to be quite different. It seems to be not not only is the Qur'an actually impossible to understand, but actually seemingly is only supposedly, understandable. With a wealth of other writings, which seems to confuse things massively for anyone coming from a Christian background or from the West. That's right, Peter. The Qur'an in the first place is written, in many cases it tells the stories that it tells. In a way that makes it clear that it assumes that the hearers have heard them before and are familiar with the general outlines of the story. So, it leaves out important aspects of the stories, and many times it is speaking about incidents, and events, and not explaining what incident or event is involved. It's as if you were talking to a friend and I walked up and I didn't know either of you very well and didn't know what you what incidents you were talking about, and you didn't pause to explain it to me. I would have no idea what you're what you're discussing, and that's what reading the Quran is like in many ways. So, you have the voluminous hadith literature: hadith means report and it's the reports of Mohammed's words and deeds. In the hadith literature you find what is known as the Asbab al-Nuzul which is the circumstances of revelation that tells the stories of what was going on at the time among the early Muslims. And Muhammad that led to the revelation of this or that passage of the Quran. And that's all very well, but this material comes from a couple of hundred years after Muhammad is supposed to have lived. And there's no trace of it existing before that. And so, it's an open question as to whether these things really give the circumstances of revelation and the Quran passage follows from that, or if these stories were put together in order to explain what is essentially a gnomic, elliptical, incoherent text. And that seems, the latter seems to be more likely. Some philologists like Christoph Luxemburg have noted that if you strip out the diacritical marks that distinguish many Arabic letters from each other, because there are 22 letters in the Arabic alphabet, but 16 are exactly the same character, just with different combinations of dots above or below. And so if you take out the dots and repoint it as if it were Aramaic, then suddenly it's a whole different text and a Christian text in many cases. And so, Luxembourg contends that it was actually a Christian text that was repurposed by the early Arab conquerors in order to create the religion of Islam. And they did this because this is actually the fundamental thesis of my own book: Did Muhammad Exist? They did this because in those days, religions were what cemented political unity. There were no parliaments or constitutions in this era when Islam arose. And you had two great powers in this region, the Byzantine Empire, which was Christian, and the Persian Empire, which was Zoroastrian. They were held together by those religions. The idea was that to be a Roman citizen at this time, a citizen of the Byzantine Empire, meant that one was a Christian and adhered to the tenets of Orthodox Christianity. Consequently, the non-Christians were not considered to be fully citizens of the empire. And this is another story, but it was the Christian identity that was the cement that held the empire together. So, the Arabs amassed a great empire, conquering massive expanses of territory, and then they developed a religion to hold it all together. And because these were warriors who wanted to expand and defend and strengthen their empire, they made their religion belligerent, aggressive, martial, warlike, expansionist, and so on. I think in chapter two, you talk about that we all know of Muslims praying to Mecca, and only then Allah can really hear the prayers properly. But you talk in the book about initially it was facing towards Jerusalem. So, was this just Muhammad wanting to be accepted? and then later on, of course, or at that time, Muhammad wanting to be a prophet. Kind of, in my thinking, that's sheer arrogance, thinking you can be a prophet to a religion you come across. Those concepts of him wanting to be a Jewish prophet, but also praying towards Jerusalem, those are two facts that seem to be missing in any dialogue today. Yes, well, it does seem as if, at least according to the canonical traditional Islamic story; that is of questionable historical value. But there's no doubt that Muslims believe it; that Muhammad taught that he was a new prophet in the line of the prophets of the Bible. And that consequently he was the new prophet of the Jews and a new prophet of the Christians. And both groups said, you're not. The Jews said, you're not Jewish. You can't be a Jewish prophet. And the Christians said, Jesus said: it is finished on the cross. We're not looking for a new prophet. And so he was rejected by both. And this has led to the kind of cognitive dissonance that the Quran says that the Jews and Christians, the Christians in particular in chapter five of the Quran will be rightly guided if they follow the gospel. And yet the Gospel does not confirm the teachings of the Qur'an as the Qur'an insists, and it insists that it confirms the teachings of the Torah also. And so Islamic spokesmen, Islamic scholars throughout the ages have accounted for this discrepancy by claiming that the Jews and Christians corrupted their scriptures. And so, they maintain that Muhammad is indeed a prophet in the line of the biblical prophets, but that it's the Jews and Christians' fault for not recognizing him. They twisted their scriptures to erase the congruence so, that people would not see that the Quran confirms the Torah and the gospel. A s a result, the Jews and Christians are portrayed as these incredible renegades and rebels against God who have dared to tamper with the very word of God that he gave them, and created false religions of their own making. And so here again, they have no legitimacy. I do want to get on to current day but, I want to there there's another concept that comes out in your book which is a widely misunderstood word and that's the word jihad, and we are told jihad is inner struggle. It's a spiritual struggle between yourself trying to be right and to be good and live correctly. Yet, jihad is a term that's used in violence all across the world. What is this term, jihad? The primary understanding of jihad in Islamic theology is warfare against unbelievers in order to bring them under the hegemony of Islamic law. The confusion arises from the fact that jihad means struggle, and there are as many things that are referred to as struggles in Arabic as there are in English. And so you can have great struggles and small struggles. You can struggle to be on time for appointments when you're chronically late, but you can also have a great struggle between civilizations, such as World War II or something. Now, in the Islamic realm, it's the same thing. The Islamic Republic of Iran has a department of agricultural jihad, which doesn't involve blowing things up on farms. It involves trying to struggle to increase the efficiency of the farms and their fruitfulness. Whereas in Islamic theology, the principal meaning of jihad has to do with this warfare against unbelievers. So, here again, Islamic spokesmen in the West frequently confuse people. They're trying to confuse them and make them complacent about the jihad threat by saying jihad just means struggle. And it's about struggling to better yourself. And they don't tell you that Muhammad said the warfare against unbelievers is the highest understanding of jihad, that there's nothing greater than jihad in which one loses one's life and then is rewarded with paradise. In the book, you use a number of examples of what we would call hit preachers. This is in 45, the Hamas deputy minister of religious endowments on Al-Aqsa TV 2010 said: the Jews suffer from a mental disorder because they are thieves and aggressors. A thief or aggressor who took land or property develops a psychological disorder and pangs of conscience because he took someone that wasn't his. And then the next page, you have a from 2018, a program on Palestinian Authority television saying people could be deluded or think that they have no way out with the Jews. The liberation of this land is a matter of faith, which will happen despite everyone. And then the next page up, the Jews are treacherous and conniving cheaters. But again, the argument, many of the guests I have on would not look at Islam as an issue, as a problem. And they would simply say those are misguided, radical preachers, and they don't understand the true, beautiful nature of Islam. How do you speak against that criticism, I guess, that you're maybe picking things out and you're looking at these preachers that actually don't understand Islam, really? Well, in the first place, I find it difficult to believe that people who have committed their lives to understanding Islam correctly would not understand it correctly. While non-Muslims who've never picked up a Quran or have any idea what it says, they understand it perfectly well. Islam is kind of funny in that way that the more you know about it, the less you understand it. And the less you know about it, the more you understand it. We see this with non-Muslim politicians all over the West who assure us with immense confidence that Islam is a religion of peace that has nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism. Those are actually the exact words from Hillary Clinton a few years back, but many, many other politicians say exactly the same thing. And I know that Hillary Clinton doesn't have the first foggiest idea of what the Koran teaches, whereas I, who have read the Koran dozens and dozens of times, committed a great deal of it to memory. Published a translation and commentary of it that's my own, and have studied Islamic theology for 40 years, now. They would say, well, you don't understand Islam at all. And even more to the point, these Muslim clerics who've attended Al-Azhar or other prestigious Islamic institutions and and spend their whole lives trying to understand the Quran and the Islam properly, and they don't get it at all. So, in the first place, it's absurd. But in the second place, what these people said that you quoted, like the fellow who said the Jews are treacherous, conniving, cheaters, that's just Quranic theology. If you read what the Quran says about the Jews, just get a Quran, don't even read the whole thing. Get one with a good index and read all the passages about the Jews. And you will see that every last one of them is negative. Every last one of them portrays the Jews as scheming and conniving and cheating the righteous people. And so this is the prism through which these clerics see the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They understand it through the lens of the Qur'an, because they believe that the Qur'an is the perfect word of the perfect being that is valid for all times and all places in all situations. They see the world today and they see Israel and the Palestinians. And the first place they will go to understand all that is the Quran, because they would trust Allah over any human authority, telling them what the conflict is all about. The Quran tells them over and over that the Jews are evil and enemies of Allah. So, they see Israel and they think, here are the evil Jews who are enemies of Allah. Even, the fact that they refer to Jews and not to Israelis or to Zionists or some other term of that kind indicates that they're seeing this through theological principles. And those theological principles are deeply anti-Semitic. Well, bringing us up to the present day, for over 2,000 years, the Jews did not have their homeland there in the land that is Israel. And it was under all different, we'll not go into the history, all different, I guess, occupying forces or other forces. And then 1948 happens and the Jewish homeland, modern day Israel, is founded again. And immediately, and this is chapter three, you talk about the jihad of 1948,which is an interesting term. Why that title? Well, the whole thing is a jihad from 1948, from before 1948, when the Zionist settlement began in the late 19th century. Even before that, because there there were always Jews in the Holy Land, and they were always subject to sporadic, periodic attacks. Now, after the Zionism began, these attacks intensify because in the first place, the Ottomans were alarmed when they owned the land that the Jews were moving in, because they thought that it would threaten their hegemony over it. Then when the Ottoman Empire fell, the League of Nations, the precursor to the United Nations, gave Britain the mandate for Palestine to establish a Jewish national home. Now, why did the Arabs object to a Jewish national home? There were already large Arab states right there neighboring this territory. And so it should have been and could have been. A relatively peaceful and orderly process once the Jewish national home was actually founded. After World War II, Germany lost massive territories in the East because it fought a war of aggression and lost. And for reasons of national security, the Poles, the Soviets, and the French in the West took various territories from the Germans. The Germans who who lived in those areas, were sent to what remained of Germany. Nobody complained. Nobody raises, nowadays, some right of return or speaks about occupied German territory in Poland and Russia. It would be absurd even to think about. But it's the exact same situation with Israel. The Arabs of Lebanon, of Syria, and of Jordan are identical ethnically, culturally, linguistically, and religiously with the Palestinian Arabs. There has never been a distinct Palestinian nationality. That's a propaganda creation that was designed to be a weapon to use against Israel. So, when you have Arabs who leave, they did not actually get kicked out. They left because the Arab League told them to leave in 1948, because the Arab states neighboring Israel were going to crush it within weeks. Then they would be out of the line of fire and could return home after Israel was destroyed. It didn't work that way, because Israel actually turned out to win the war. The Arab states, after that happened, could have easily absorbed these populations. And there would be no problem today, just like there's no problem in Europe today, in regard to the German refugees after World War II. And yet they did not do that because they they wanted to keep the Palestinian refugees as stateless, as refugees, as a weapon to beat Israel with. This is what became the linchpin for what I referred to as the Jihad of 1948. The Jihad, because the Quran says in chapter 2, verse 191: drive them out from where they drove you out. It's a myth, as I just noted, it's a myth that the the Israelis drove the Arabs out. It's not a fact, but it's what the Arabs all over the Middle East and the non-Arab Muslims are taught about what happened. So, that is because it triggers the divine command, drive them out from where they drove you out. They have to have been driven out for that to kick in as being applicable. So, now millions of Muslims, Arab and non-Arab, are taught that they must drive out the Israelis, because the Muslims were driven out. It's a divine command, no less than the Ten Commandments for Christians. Consequently, it is a jihad because if it were not for these religious principles that are rooted in Islam and the Quran, the problem would have been solved by negotiations decades ago. But no negotiated settlement ever succeeds, because you don't negotiate away divine commandments. Well, that negotiated settlement, two-term, two-state solution is the phrase that comes up, and you touch on that in that chapter. And we're told this is the way to fix all the problems, if only we can come up with this mythical two-state solution. Why is that then not the solution to the issue that the world faces in the Middle East? A two-state solution would require two states. That requires at least ostensibly that the Arabs have to acknowledge that a Jewish state of some size has a right to exist there and they will never accept that, because the divine command has driven them out from where they drove you out. That does not admit of half measures. It might admit of partial fulfilment that they take over half of Israel and then the other half later. But it doesn't allow for the recognition of the right to exist of any non-Muslim entity on that land. Consequently, the Jewish state could be the size of my office here. The Jewish state could be the size of a postage stamp, and it would not be acceptable, because they have have to drive them out from where they drove you out without any exceptions. The negotiation, the two-state solution would quickly become, or even eventually, even slowly become, a one-state solution. The Palestinian state would make war against what's left of Israel and ultimately destroy it. There would never be two states in that land on an indefinite basis. In your book, one of the chapters talks about the naivety of Carter. Seemingly, every U.S. president has accepted this. Even Trump has accepted; has stated that actually he sees that as the best solution. Is that simply an absolute misunderstanding that this is a religious ideology that lies at the root of all this? Yeah, absolutely. It's because nobody in Washington knows or wants to know about the power and influence of Islam over political issues. They underestimated and misunderstood Khomeini when it was the time of the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979. And since 1948, they have misunderstood the Israeli-Arab conflict, because they don't understand Islam. They routinely discount it as having anything to do with this conflict. And yet, it's right there in the Hamas charter. Israel will arise and will remain until Islam obliterates it. Islam obliterates it. And yet, no policymaker, no president, not Carter, not any of the others. Not Trump. None of them have ever pondered. What does that mean until Islam obliterates it? How can Islam obliterate a country? That doesn't even make any sense to the policymakers in Washington, because they think of Islam solely as a religion, and they think of it because they come from Judeo-Christian backgrounds. The way Christianity operates in the West. They assume it's like that, and so, they have no idea of its political, aggressive, expansionist, and supremacist aspects. In chapter four, you say the Palestinians are invented. That's a very strong statement. Surely, we've had the land of Palestine back in the Roman era. That's surely 2,000 years old. So, there must be all this history and people: the Palestinians. Well, I'll tell you, Peter, you're right, and yet not. And I know you know. It's true. The Romans renamed the land of Judea, that is, land of the Jews. They renamed Judea Palestine in 134 AD. And they officially expelled the Jews from the area, although many of them stayed all the way through to the modern age. Now, Palestine was a name they had taken from the Bible, from the Philistines, the ancient enemies of the Israelites, in the Jewish scriptures. And they named it Palestine. They named Judea Palestine as a yet another taunt against the Jews as they were expelling them from the region. They renamed the region against their extinct enemies. But, there were never any Palestinians. And I would ask you, you know. You can find on YouTube, for example, the men on the street interviews, and people are even Palestinians are asked, name a famous Palestinian from history. And they all say Yasser Arafat. Okay, name another. If they were Palestinian since 134 AD, then, okay, name one. Give us one from the second century or the fifth or the 10th or the 15th or the 19th. There weren't any. It was the name of a region. It's like Los Angeles. Los Angeles is a city in the United States. And there are citizens of Los Angeles, but if we start talking about a distinct Los Angeles nationality that deserves its own state, people would laugh. It's the name of the city. And Palestine was the name of this region, but there were never any Palestinians. It was just the name of a place. The idea that it's a distinct nationality was invented by Arafat and the KGB in 1964. And they did it as a propaganda weapon because the whole world in those days was sympathetic to Israel. The Israelis, because they had faced off and defeated massive nations. Arab and non-Arab Muslim nations, and had stood against them even though they were vastly outnumbered and outgunned. They gained the sympathy of the entire world. And so, the KGB in Arafat in 1964 renamed the Palestine Liberation Organization, the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization. Very small change and nobody even noticed, but it was a momentous change, because it indicated for the first time in history that there was a people called Palestinians. And now the whole world accepts it and takes it for granted, but this is an invented nationality that was designed to create an even tinier people that was menaced by the massive Israeli war machine. And that would take the wind out of the sails of Israel, the tiny underdog Jewish state facing off against these massive Arab states. And it's worked very well. Even the Israelis have admitted or accepted the existence of Palestinians as a distinct nationality when there has never been such a people in history. You can go to 1948. Go to the library, read the newspapers from the day. Read the United Nations deliberations when they offered the Arabs half of the area of Israel. We're going to establish yet another Arab state and a Jewish state. And the Arabs said no, because they wouldn't accept a Jewish state of any size. Nobody ever mentions Palestinians. It's funny, because they're the center of the conflict now. And yet, in those days, it was the Israeli-Arab conflict. There was not a single mention anywhere of Palestinians. I mean, Islam does seem to have a trend of rewriting history. And in the book you talk about a number of statements and articles referring to Jesus as a Palestinian. That would be news to Jesus, because I'm sure I read in my Bible that he was Jewish. Yeah, well, obviously this is another propaganda point that's designed to curry favour among non-Muslims with the Palestinians. Even from a historical standpoint, Jesus was not a Palestinian because it wasn't until a hundred years after Jesus that the Romans renamed the area of Judea Palestine. The Gospels are very clear. Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea. That Galilee was right there next to Judea, where he grew up in Nazareth. And he says salvation is from the Jews. A very ignored statement of his. This is very clearly someone who was operating within a Jewish framework, a Jewish culture surrounded by Jews. And even the theology of Christianity is based on the theology of Judaism, that the temple Judaism before the destruction of the temple in 70 AD was based on animal sacrifices for atonement for sins. And then Jesus is presented as being, as God become man, the eternal sacrifice and the perfect atonement for sins that opens the way of heaven for the people. This is something that really doesn't even make any sense apart from Judaism. And I think Christians nowadays are getting very carried away in this Christ is King controversy that's been going on in regard to Candace Owens and the Daily Wire and so on. It risks ignoring or denying the Jewish roots of Christianity and the fundamental kinship that Judaism and Christianity actually have, despite the undeniable antagonism and the Christian anti-Semitism that was certainly operative in Europe for centuries. Well, you're right. Without Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the stories of the Old Testament, God's promised there would be no New Testament and Jesus would not be there. 100%, Robert. Just to finish off with, the last chapter is what is to be done. And it seems from this discussion that what the conflict that we see at the moment between the Palestinians in Gaza and the Israelis is just part of the wider issue of Jews and Muslims, of Islam and Judaism. So, when you say what is to be done, how do you see looking ahead? Well, looking ahead, it doesn't look good, because the American government, which is essentially the principal, if not the sole ally of the Jewish state, is betraying Israel because the Biden regime is very afraid that it's going to lose the Muslim vote, which could lose it several swing states in the November election. And end up with Biden being defeated for re-election. So, they've decided to betray Israel as a result. They're pressing for a Palestinian state. If a Palestinian state were founded, that would, as I discussed earlier, become a new jihad base for renewed attacks against what's left of Israel. They don't seem to know or care that if Israel is destroyed, then the jihadis all around the world will be emboldened like never before, and will step up their attacks in Europe and the United States. This is what we're looking at in the future unless Israel is able to destroy Hamas despite the international pressure to get it to surrender and by surrender. I mean accept a ceasefire that would allow Hamas to live and if Israel can do that then all bets are off and the post-war picture will be radically different. But right now it looks like it's going to be very tough times ahead head, both for Israel and for the West. Well, I would encourage people to get: The Passing Delusion. It's a great book and will help explain what is happening. And of course, Robert's latest book is: The Empire of God, How the Byzantines Saved Civilization. A wonderful endorsement by Victor Davis Hanson. So, if you're not sure about Robert, go to Victor David Hanson. Robert, really appreciate you coming along. Love your work over the many decades with Jihad Watch, certainly one of my go-to places on the geopolitics and deeper. Thank you so much for your time today. Thank you. Pleasure.
Robert Spencer, Director of Jihad Watch and author of Empire of God: How the Byzantines Saved Civilization, joins us to discuss the realities of Islamic theology in terms of its propensity towards violence, the cyclical reemergence of Islamic extremism within secular Islamic cultures throughout history, and how the Islamization of Europe and the broader west will lead to societal downfall. #Islam #Muslim #Jihad
Is Islam compatible with America's Judeo representative public and our constitutional freedoms? On this week's episode of the Alex McFarland Show, guest Dexter Van Zile is joining host Alex McFarland. Dexter is the editor of the website, the Middle East Forum and has worked in journalism for many years. He is an expert on Christianity, the middle east and anti-semitism. Together they discuss what is going on in the world today in Israel and the United States regarding Islamization.Scriptures: Psalm 122:6Alex McFarlandAsk Alex Online alex@alexmcfarland.com booking@alexmcfarland.comThe Assault On AmericaThe 21 Toughest Questions Your Kids Will Ask About ChristianityThe Clash Of Civilization And The Remaking Of World Order - Samuel HuntingtonEquip RetreatFocus On Western Islamism Middle East ForumDonateTruth for New GenerationsTNG - PO Box 10231 Greensboro, NC 274081-877-937-4631 (1-877-YES-GOD1)
5 Cs of History. Contingency. Episode #4 of 4. It's October 10, 732 and the Umayyad armies commanded by Abd al-Rahman are facing the Franks led by Charles Martel. The battle is bloody and chaotic. When the fog clears, the Umayyad Muslim invasion is halted, and the Frankish Kingdom under Charles Martel emerges as a powerful force in Christendom. Historian Edward Gibbon writes that Tours was one of “the events that rescued our ancestors of Britain, and our neighbors of Gaul, from the civil and religious yoke of the Koran.” He continues, saying that if it weren't for the Battle of Tours, “Perhaps the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Mahomat.” This week we are finishing our series on the last of the five Cs, contingency, by exploring the Battle of Tours, also called the Battle of Poitiers, which has been remembered as the only event preventing the Islamization of Western civilization. But, as always, it's so much more complicated than that. Find transcripts and show notes at: www.digpodcast.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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As part "The Best of Roqe" series, a feature interview with leading attorney, professor and author, Mehrangiz Kar. Mehrangiz is a celebrated human rights activist who was one of the first female attorneys to oppose the Islamization of gender relations following the Iranian Revolution of 1979. She became an active public defender in Iran's civil and criminal courts. She joins Jian in the Roqe Studio for a very intimate and personal interview about her life…from her early years in Ahvaz and her female role models, to becoming a prominent lawyer and her fight for human rights, to her imprisonment, her exile, and dealing with the tragic death of her late husband.
The Islamization of France is so far gone that it would be wise for Christians in France to leave the nation and find a new home, argued Pastor David Whitney in this interview with The New American magazine's Alex Newman. Whitney, a senior instructor at the Institute on the Constitution, said that the secularist and ... The post Time for French Christians to Leave Amid “2nd Revolution,” Says Pastor Whitney appeared first on The New American.
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Last September, Mahsa-Jina Amini, a twenty-two-year-old woman from the Kurdish region of Iran, died while in the custody of Iran's notorious "morality police." During the funeral in her hometown of Saghez, which was to become the epicenter of the nationwide protests in Iran, women took off their headscarves, chanting ‘Women Life Freedom', a slogan which became an iconic chant both within Iran and beyond. Images of young women protesters openly taking off their headscarves and burning them sent the unmistakable message to the ruling clerics that they could no longer impose their draconian and nonsensical laws on women and girls in Iran. Throughout the country, in the schools, universities, and streets young people became the leaders of protests calling for an end to the oxymoronic "Islamic republic.“ But, as predicted, the brutality employed by the regime's security apparatus to suppress the protests at any cost took on epic proportions. Over 500 protesters have reportedly been killed so far, including 70 children. In addition, to this day four protesters have been executed by the state, with many more also facing the death sentence. Hundreds of protesters were also blinded by Metal Pellets and Rubber Bullets. Furthermore, over the past six months, human rights organizations have documented the pervasive use of torture and abuse of detained protestors. A newly released report by Amnesty International, for example, reveals that the Iranian authorities have, among other torture methods, used sexual violence against imprisoned children. Amnesty International's Deputy Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa, Diana Eltahawy, has said that "Iran's violence against children exposes a deliberate strategy to crush the vibrant spirit of the country's youth and stop them from demanding freedom and human rights.” Professor Shahrzad Mojab, who is our guest today, says that much of the push for the current protests has come from young people, who are more aware than previous generations of women's issues thanks to social media. "They have their own powerful reason for wanting a change of regime: a desire for a better future." Professor Shahrzad Mojab is a scholar, teacher, and activist, and she's internationally known for her work on the impacts of war, displacement, and violence upon women's learning and education. Malihe Razazan spoke with her about the protest movement, the islamization of the education system as well as the role of young women in the protests, and started by asking her to talk about the genesis of the slogan "Women Life Freedom," and how it encapsulates the spirit and objectives of the protests in Iran.
For Muslims and non-Muslims alike, the study of Islam usually equates to the reading of books. But in recent decades, archaeological excavations have revealed a more complex picture of the Muslim past than written sources have recorded. This has been especially the case for the history of Islam in Africa, where excavations in different regions of the continent have shown not only distinctive local patterns of Islamization, but also the connections of locales such as Gao in Mali with Andalusia and Harlaa in Ethiopia with India. In this episode we'll learn about of excavations ranging from Madinat al-Zahra in Spain to Bilad al-Qadim in Bahrain and Ethiopian Harar, as well as the implications of what was discovered in these digs. Shedding light on periods, places, or social groups that scarcely registered in the textual tradition, Nile Green talks to Timothy Insoll, editor of The Oxford Handbook of Islamic Archaeology (Oxford, 2020).
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Guest: shahrazad Mojab, professor of Adult Education and Community Development and Women and Gender Studies at the University of Toronto Her most recent books are Marxism & Migration; Women of Kurdistan: A Historical and Bibliographical Study; and Revolutionary Learning: Marxism, Feminism and Knowledge.
VOICES FROM THE FRONTLINES Your National Movement Building Show “Wake up and smell the revolution” Tuesday March 28, 2023 | 8 AM PST On todays show Voices from the Frontlines present MOTHERLAND BY: Vic Gerami An Armenian-American Journalist, Documentarian, LGBT activist, Columnist, Publisher, and Organizer Eric Mann and discuses with Vic Gerami the Powerful documentary "MotherLand". A documentary produced by Vic which informs on the historic genocide of the Armenian people throughout history by various imperialistic nations and their allies. "The Armenian genocide[a] was the systematic destruction of the Armenian people and identity in the Ottoman Empire during World War I. Spearheaded by the ruling Committee of Union and Progress (CUP), it was implemented primarily through the mass murder of around one million Armenians during death marches to the Syrian Desert and the forced Islamization of Armenian women and children." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide) -Eric's sings "Lean On Me” by: Bill Withers. In brief Eric discuss the Strategy and Soul theater's film screening of "The Bus riders Union" film produce by Haskell Wexler . The screening will take place March 30, 2023 at Strategy and Soul theater. The Bus Riders Union film is a documentary about an activist group called the Bus Riders Union. Their focus is on improving the public transportation system in Los Angeles. The bus system there is in a sorry state. Busses are overcrowded. A rider will routinely see three busses pass her by, completely full, before being able to board. Handicapped riders find that the lift system on most busses is broken. Many riders need to take three or more busses to arrive at their destinations, and late night service on some routes is discontinued without any notice. On top of this, the MTA was planning a massive fare increase and focusing their energy on subways and trains that are costly and benefit mainly upper class white people. The B.R.U. views this struggle over Los Angeles busses as the new civil rights battle. The bus system is utilized almost exclusively by minorities and low income residents. Since the busses are so unreliable, workers are not able to predictably arrive on time and therefore have trouble holding jobs. This means that an already disadvantaged segment of the population is being further held back. Kikanza Ramsey, B.R.U. organizer, describes her organization as "an experiment to see if we can create a multi-racial, bi-lingual, gender-balanced mass movement of working class people." The tape follows the legal struggles of the group throughout the 90's as they battle with the city and the MTA for service improvements. ("Https://Mediaburn.Org/Video/Bus-riders-union/") In the last half of the show Eric holds a conversation with Channing Martinez, Lead Organizer at the Strategy and Soul Center, and the Bus Riders Union. Channing reports from the ground and the frontlines of the battle field. Channing will discuss the Bus Riders Union Film at the Strategy and Soul theater.
Although news about Iran doesn't deluge our headlines any longer, as it did the days and weeks after Ms. Mahsa Amini's murder, we continue to hear and see trickles of news about Iran and Iranians. And it's a good time to talk about it, because it's the Persian New Year on March 20th - just 3 days from now. In this episode, my guest, Dr. Khodadad Rezakhani of Leiden University, takes us from the Black Sea to the Iranian plateau to talk about Persians & Iranians. Are these terms interchangeable? He also tells us which one is more appropriate: the Persian or Iranian New Year? From there we talk about Eranshahr, and why that important term developed during the Sasanian Empire as opposed to earlier empires, namely the Achaemenid and Parthians. Dr. Rezakhani describes the importance of the Sasanian Empire in history, and how this mighty empire pummeled the Byzantine Roman Empire and then, suddenly, fell to the Arabs and Islamization of Iran. Throughout our conversation, he debunks many myths about Iran and world history. To learn more about Dr. Rezakhani, you can visit his academic homepage. In addition, below are links to other episodes about Iran: S2E42: An Islamic state pretending to be a republic. CIA's 1953 coup & the 1979 Revolution. Dr. Behrooz Ghamari-Tabrizi S2E34: Iran's History of Hijab & Women's Rights, Dr. Janet Afary S2E33: Iranians of the 1979 Revolution, Dr. Naghmeh Sohrabi S2E25: Iran-U.S. Diplomacy, Dr. Vali Nasr S1E25: Iran's Leadership, Government Structure & Religion, Dr. Vali Nasr Adel Host of the History Behind News podcast HIGHLIGHTS: get future episode highlights in your inbox. SUPPORT: please click here and join our other supporters in the news peeler community. Thank you.
Following years of uncontrolled mass immigration and failed integration of immigrants, Sweden has become a segregated social welfare state. Gang violence, crime, and Islamization are rapidly replacing Sweden's traditional culture. Following its election success in 2022, the Sweden Democrat party supports a right-wing governing bloc promising to reverse immigration and multicultural policies. After five months, what is the new government's record on these issues? More broadly, can Sweden even be saved?
Today, we discuss the religion that dominated Iran until the Muslim Conquests: Zoroastrianism. As we shall see, this faith bears many resemblances to Twelver Shiism, the sect that would be embraced by the Buyid dynasty soon after it emerged, and not long after the Islamization of Iran really got underway. These similarities may not be entirely coincidental. Zoroastrianism also left a mark on other world religions. It had many followers in Arabia during the lifetime of the Prophet Mohammed. After the Muslims conquered Persia, both religions would co-exist there for centuries. That was bound to leave a mark.
With the devastating invasion of the Emir Temür, better known as Tamerlane, in 1395, the Golden Horde had suffered a grievous wound. Its armies were dealt crushing defeats; its Khan Toqtamish was sent fleeing for his life; and the major cities of the Horde had all been sacked by the Timurids. The Horde was now held together with a wish and prayer, and in the hands of the powerful lord Edigü. Today in our final episode on the Golden Horde, we take you through its slow breakup in the century after Tamerlane's attack. I'm your host David, and this is Kings and Generals: Ages of Conquest. We should note that the fall of the Golden Horde was not a single moment or event. 1380, 1395, 1480 or 1502 are not simply switches where the Golden Horde ceased to exist. Rather, it was a centuries long process, with edges of the empire breaking away or being reclaimed, while multiple claimants for power fought each other and sometimes succeeded in reunifying parts or all of the khanates. Rather than a sudden collapse, it was more like waves ebbing to and fro with the tide, and as they withdraw, they pull back a bit further each time, only to in time not return at all. The Golden Horde of the fifteenth century was a very different beast from the one Öz Beg had ruled in the early fourteenth century. Steadily, though not immediately the cities of the steppe along rivers like the Volga diminished in size and were largely abandoned. Even Sarai, thoroughly sacked by Tamerlane, remained the nominal capital and continued to be fought over for generations. The overland international trade networks which had once so enriched the Jochid khans dried up as the route across Asia became too dangerous, and the merchants who still made the trek were redirected elsewhere. Rounds of bubonic plague still struck on occasion, and with the end of the medieval warm period, the steppe environment itself steadily became less accommodating with colder winters and less productive grasslands. It was not the end to animal husbandry or even agriculture in the steppe, but it was no longer the great, organized system enjoyed by the Jochids in their heyday. Political instability marked the region accordingly; whereas from Batu until the 1360s the Jochid Khans had maintained peace throughout the steppes, now rival claimants raided or invaded each other, at times annually. While Tamerlane did not end the Golden Horde, his attack aggravated and worsened these problems. The ten years of relative peace Toqtamish had overseen as khan had simply not been long enough to recover from the previous two decades of troubles, and now each problem reared its ugly head once more. After Tamerlane's withdrawal in 1396, he left the state reeling in his wake. Toqtamish Khan had survived, but his armies were broken. Tamerlane had installed a new khan, Quyurchuq, a son of Urus Khan, but Quyurchuq had little authority without Tamerlane's presence. Edigü, a non-Chinggisid lord and leader of the Manghit peoples, quickly maneuvered Quyurchuq Khan out of the way, and installed his own puppet, a distant relation of Toqtamish named Temür Qutlugh. Edigü was a wily figure, a skilled politician and one of the wealthiest, most powerful lords within the Golden Horde. Long had he fought Toqtamish, first alongside Urus Khan, and then alongside Tamerlane. Once Tamerlane began to withdraw from the Horde for the final time, Edigü promptly betrayed him and began gathering his own forces to overthrow Tamerlane's puppet. Edigü, as a non-Chinggisid, could not claim the title of khan himself. But by making the khans dependent on him for power and military support, Edigü could hold real authority over the realm. As beylerbeyi, Edigü commanded immense influence among the qarachu families; that is, the non-Chinggisid military elite, those generally bore the title of beğ (pronounced as bey). Every khan that Edigü would enthrone had to confirm Edigü as beylerbeyi, the bey of beys; which Khan Temür Qutlugh promptly did. This gave Edigü an institution position akin to vizier or commander-in-chief, “advising” the khan to do exactly what Edigü wished. In turn the khan continued to function in a more ceremonial role and remained official head-of-state, and his name continued to be minted on coinage. No matter how powerful Edigü might be, in the steppes the prestige of Chinggisid rulership was too strong to be cast aside, and attempting to rule in his own right would have presumably resulted in open rebellion against him. Almost two hundred years since Chinggis Khan's death, his spectre still loomed large over Asia. Edigü and Temür Qutlugh's confirmation took place not a moment too soon, for Toqtamish and his sons were in the midst of collecting forces to retake the khanate. Assisted by the Grand Duke of Lithuania, Vytautas the Great, Toqtamish and his Lithuanian allies invaded the Golden Horde in 1399, only to be defeated but Temür Qutlugh Khan and Edigü at the Vorskla River in 1399. The battle solidified Edigü's dominance, with Vytautas' army annihilated, many Lithuanian princes killed and both Vytautas and Toqtamish sent fleeing for their lives. Though Toqtamish continued to seek the throne until his death in 1406, it was clear that Edigü was too strong to be ousted so quickly. And lest Temür Qutlugh Khan have grown too haughty after such a victory, he died in unclear circumstances soon after the battle. Edigü then enthroned Temür Qutlugh's brother, Shadi Beğ, as khan. Under Edigü's stewardship, efforts were made to stabilize the Golden Horde. He retook Khwarezm after Tamerlane's death, often raided the Rus' principalities and laid siege to Moscow in 1408, sparing the city in exchange for a ransom of 3,000 rubles. Some economic recovery is indicated from the restarting of mints in some of the Horde's major cities. A considerable quantity of coinage entered the markets, some of it quite high quality, a sign of Edigü's effort to jump-start the economy. To help legitimize himself in light of his lack of Chinggisid credentials, Edigü made himself the standard bearer of Islamization of the remainder of the nomadic population, continuing the process begun by Özbeg. He went as far as to claim descent from the sufi shaykh Baba Tükles, a mythical figure who in popular legend had converted Özbeg to Islam. As in turn Baba Tükles was supposed to be descended from the Caliphs, this gave Edigü an ancient, if almost entirely fictitious, pedigree. Still, descent from the successors of Muhammad was useful when portraying oneself as an almighty Muslim monarch and a champion of Islam. But powerful as Edigü was, his might was not supreme. His puppet khan Shadi Beğ did not enjoy being a puppet and sought to remove Edigü from the scene. Learning of the plot, Edigü routed and chased Shadi Beğ from the Horde. He then enthroned Shadi Beğ's nephew, Bulad, a son of the late Temür Qutlugh. This relationship was likewise fraught; according to the Rus' Nikonian Chronicle, Edigü had to rush to lift his siege of Moscow when he learned that Bulad had grown irate at Edigü. When Bulad died in 1410, Edigü then enthroned Bulad's brother Temür. Khan Temür proved even less amenable to Edigü, for upon becoming khan Temür refused to confirm Edigü as beylerbeyi, the institution which gave Edigü his power. Edigü's supporters abandoned him as Temür sought to capture him, his armies pursuing Edigü to Khwarezm. Nearly was Edigü's life forfeit, until he was saved by an unlikely source; Jalal al-Din, known to the Rus' as the Zeleni Sultan, and a son of the late Toqtamish Khan. Jalal al-Din had aided Duke Vytautas of Lithuania against the Teutonic Order at the famous battle of Grünwald in 1410, and in turn for his support was provided troops to assist him in reclaiming the Horde. While Temür Khan's armies had Edigü under siege in Khwarezm, the khan himself was killed by Jalal al-Din bin Toqtamish. News of it reached Temür Khan's generals, who lost heart and dissipated while Jalal al-Din was enthroned as Khan in Sarai, inadvertently saving Edigü's life. After years of dreaming for the position and restoring his family to honour, Jalal al-Din Khan had accomplished his greatest desire, and could begin the hunt for Edigü… until he was murdered by his brother, Qibaq, in October 1412. Another brother, Kerim Berdi, took the throne, while Qibaq, backed by Vyautas of Lithuania, challenged him for it. The only thing which had held these brothers together had been their father and the quest for the throne; with the throne now theirs, they tore themselves apart for it. The 1410s and 20s went on in this fashion, highly reminiscent of the tumultuous 1360s and 70s. Kerim Berdi killed Qibaq in battle, only for both Edigü and Vytautas to declare new khans. Vytautas had another of Toqtamish's sons, Jabbar Berdi, declared khan in Vilnius, while Edigü chose another Tuqa-Temürid, Chekre. Cherke seized Sarai, only for Jabbar Berdi to kill Kerim Berdi, take Sarai and chase out Edigü's candidate. And that situation lasted until one of Kerim Berdi's sons, Sayyid Ahmad I, was declared khan and threw out Jabbar Berdi. And the pattern continued, with Vytautas and Edigü both declaring new khans immediately upon learning the news. This went on until 1419, when one of the last of Toqtamish's sons, Kadir Berdi, and Edigü himself, were finally killed in battle. The 1420s proved no better in the aftermath of Edigü's death. A man named Muhammad was enthroned as Khan, but his identity in uncertain, and could possibly be a number of notable Chinggisids who bore the name. In the 1420s the khan in Sarai became just one khan amongst several, and so passed a bewildering number of khans, the order and lengths of the reigns of which are a continuous subject of debate. While more ambitious khans dreamed of reinvigorating the Horde, the borders of the state broke away, with the Timurids, for instance, retaking Khwarezm. The situation stabilized slightly over the 1430s as three main powers emerged; east of the Ural river, Abu'l Khayr Khan, founder of the Uzbek Khanate; Küchük Muhammad Khan, a grandson of Temür Qutlugh, in the Volga steppe, and Sayyid Ahmed II Khan, another Tuqa-Temürid, west of the Don River. Küchük Muhammad's nearly twenty year reign, from 1435-1459, is when scholarship begins to call the state the Great Horde, to distinguish it from its neighbours, the newly emerging successor khanates. While Küchük Muhammad is usually designated the most ‘legitimate' khan of the Golde Horde, at least in scholarship, each of the competing khans in these years saw themselves as the actual ruler of the Horde. Each tended to demand the Rus' princes pay tribute to them, a source of much confusion and fear for the Rus', who watched closely the political developments. The Rus' were not idle spectators or skillfully playing off the khans, for they spent much of these years locked in their own lengthy civil wars. The Grand Prince, Vasili II Vasilivich, still had to flee his capital due to Mongol attacks, and was even captured by troops of Ulugh Muhammad Khan. Regularly, the Rus' still paid annual tribute to the Khan of the Great Horde. But even the relatively calm 1430s were no salve for the unity of the Horde, and the fragmentation continued, with both the emergence of more Chinggisid and non-Chinggisid polities. Kazan, in the lands of the Volga Bulghars, became an independent realm under the heirs of Ulugh Muhammad Khan, who had been khan of the Golden Horde until his ouster in 1438. Along the Ural River emerged the Nogai Horde under the sons of Edigü. As Edigü's sons belonged to the Manghit clan, the ruling strata of the Nogai Horde, you will sometimes see this Horde called the Manghit yurt or ulus. North of the Nogais emerged a proper Khanate of Sibir, or Siberian Khanate, ruled by a branch of the Shibanids. In 1459 on the death of Küchük Muhammad, Khan of the Great Horde, he sought to divide the khanate between his sons Mahmud and Ahmad. But Ahmad soon chased out Mahmud, who fled to Hajji Tarkhan, modern Astrakhan at the Volga Delta. Mahmud and his sons turned Astrakhan into their powerbase, and in turn its own independent khanate. In the far east, the newly emerged Uzbek Khanate fell into internal fighting after the death of Abu'l Khayr Khan, which led to a group of young princes breaking off and founding the rival Kazakh Khanate in the 1450s. In 1442, Crimea and the surrounding steppes came under the rule of Sayyid Ahmad II Khan's nephew, Hajji Giray, establishing the Crimean Khanate's long ruling Giray Dynasty. Hajji Giray, and his son Mengli Giray, dedicated their lives to the hatred of the heirs of Küchük Muhammad, whose line monopolized the position of Khans of the ever declining Great Horde. For over twenty years, Hajji Giray fought repeatedly with Küchük Muhammad's son, Ahmad Khan. Ahmad enjoyed few successes; his alliance with Poland against the Crimean Khan brought little help, while the Nogais and other khanates and Hordes bordering him raided his lands, splitting his attention in every direction. His situation was further hampered with the obstinence of the new Grand Prince of the Rus', Ivan III of Moscow. Ivan III brought Moscow out of its lengthy period of civil war, and renewed the drive to dominate the other principalities. Like his predecessors, Ivan III had recognized the overlordship of the Khan. But he also recognized the reality of the situation, for he maintained diplomacy with the other emerging khans, particularly the Crimean. From the 1440s onwards there had been gaps in the deliverance of Rus' tribute to the Horde, becoming ever more spotty upon Ivan's official ascension in 1462, culminating in 1471 when Ivan ceased the payment of tribute altogether. Ahmad Khan frequently sent messengers to Ivan demanding the resumption of the tribute, or for Ivan to come and reaffirm his submission in person. The ever more frustrated Ahmad Khan, surrounded and beleaguered by powerful rivals, needed this Rus' tribute. His first march on Moscow in 1472 was aborted, and ordered another attack on Ivan in 1480 in cooperation with his Polish ally, King Casimir IV. Ivan III did not back down, and sent his army to repel the khan. The two foes faced off across the Ugra River over the summer and into the autumn of 1480. Khan Ahmad waited in vain for Casimir, who never arrived. Arrows were shot, arquebuses were fired; Ivan worried the river would soon freeze and allow Ahmad free passage, but Ahmad retreated first, downtrodden his ally had failed to show. His son Murteza raided Moscow territory as they withdrew, and Ahmad was murdered the next year. So ended the Great Stand on the Ugra River, a much overemphasized staring contest. Only centuries later did chronicles see it as an epoch in the independence of the Rus'. It did not directly affect either parties' standing, and to contemporaries was simply another scuffle amidst hundreds. Twenty years later after the Ugra stand, Ivan sent a message to Ahmad's son and successor, Shaykh Ahmad Khan, inquiring about resuming their earlier relationship in the midst of a fierce round of struggle with Lithuania. From 1474 to 1685, Moscow sent annual tributes, under the name of pominki, to the Crimean Khans. But raids and attacks by the khans were no longer as devastating as they had once been, with the expansion of better defensive networks by the Rus', including more stone fortifications and ever-improving firearms technology. Seemingly, the armies of the Khans no longer came with such overwhelming forces, and the chronicles which once spoke of Toqta's brother Duden handily destroying 14 cities across Rus', begin to describe the Rus' repelling or pursuing Tatar raiders. Assaults on cities, such as Ahmad's brother Mahmud Khan's failed siege of Ryazan' in 1460, were beaten back with heavy losses on the part of the attackers. In other cases, the Khans fell prey to other khans; Mahmud's 1465 attack on Rus' was intercepted by an army of the Crimean Khan Hajji Giray, who often allied with Moscow against the Great Horde. The khans of the Horde no longer enjoyed a monopoly on military power. Instead of masters of the steppe, they were now members within a political system, facing off with rivals of comparable power, while their own might had shrunk considerably. The khan could no longer unilaterally oppose his will. After Ahmad Khan's death in 1481, his sons attempted to act as co-rulers but were soon at each other's throats, further weakening the Great Horde while their rivals grew in might. Shaykh Ahmad bin Ahmad Khan emerged the victor. While he had aspirations of reuniting the Horde, his efforts proved futile. Shaykh Ahmad Khan's reign proved to be one of disaster. His cousin in Astrakhan openly defied him; Ivan III of Moscow allied with Mengli Giray of Crimea against the Great Horde. In an effort to outflank Moscow and Crimea, Shaykh Ahmad sought to restore the military alliance with Lithuania, but no great support ever came of it. Rounds of plague and bad seasons further harmed the Horde's cities, pasture lands and crops; harsh winters and poor grazing resulted in the deaths of thousands of horses almost every year of the 1490s. Famine weakened his forces, destroyed his herds and caused thousands to flee to neighbouring khanates. By the start of the sixteenth century Shaykh Ahmad was desperate, and in winter 1501 he led his underfed and weakened army in one last gamble, seeking to push west of the Dnieper for greener pasture. But he was trapped in a vicious snowstorm, and cut off from the rest of his forces. His demoralized army suffered for months, and began to trickle off to the territory of the Crimean Khan, Mengli Giray. Shaykh Ahmad suffered his own personal losses; already depressed from the failure of the Lithuanians to arrive, Shaykh Ahmad watched the last of his brothers fall ill and die. As Mengli Giray summoned the entirety of his forces to crush the khan, Shaykh Ahmad's will finally broke when his own wife abandoned him with much of his family and most of his remaining troops— to join Mengli Giray. When Mengli Giray met Ahmad near the Dnieper in June 1502, the Khan of the Great Horde, who in the time of Özbeg was allegedly capable of raising 300,000 men, was caught with a paltry 20,000. Chased from the field, his palace ordu looted, Shaykh Ahmad Khan spent the rest of his life on the run, and spent much of his last twenty years in Lithuania a political prisoner. So, according to traditional scholarship, did the humiliating career of the final Khan of the Great Horde end, and traditionally 1502 serves as the end date for the Golden Horde. However, in recent decades this view has been challenged. Historians like Leslie Collins have demonstrated thoroughly how after 1502 Mengli Giray dramatically grew in strength and began to style himself as Great Khan of the Great Horde; a claim recognized in diplomacy by his Ottoman overlord, the Rus', the Poles and the Lithuanians. What is now argued is that, to contemporaries, the Great Horde did not end in 1502; the throne was simply taken by another branch of the dynasty, as it had so many times before. Absorbing the remnants of the Great Horde's lands, troops and wealth, the power of the Crimean Khans grew considerably as they expanded eastwards into the former heart of Shaykh Ahmad Khan's realm. By the 1520s under Mengli's son, Mehmed, their influence stretched past the Volga as they put candidates onto the thrones of Kazan and Astrakhan. In a sense, the Horde was briefly reestablished. However, Mehmed was killed by Nogais in 1523, who then raided as far as Crimea, precipitating years of internal fighting for the Crimean throne and leading to the Ottomans taking greater control over the Crimean succession. Meanwhile without a common enemy in the form of the Great Horde the Crimean alliance with Moscow quickly frayed. The Princes of Moscow, now masters of Rus', were eager to gain access to the Volga trade, and take advantage of the weakness of the Volga Khanates, particularly under Ivan IV and his crusade-minded advisers. In 1552 the first khanate, Kazan, fell to Ivan's armies; Astrakhan followed in 1554. It is Ivan IV, by the way, who is popularly known as Ivan Grozny, or Ivan the Terrible, and who in 1547 took the imperial title of Tsar, a derivation of Latin Caesar. During the dominance of the Golden Horde, Tsar had been the title reserved for the Khans, whereas the Rus' princes were knyaz. What Ivan was signalling, in a way, was that the now the Prince of Moscow had replaced the Jochid khan as master of the Rus'. The powerful Crimean Khan Devlet I Giray sought to halt Moscow's expansion, with yearly raids and in 1571, even succeeded in capturing and burning down Moscow. This brief victory was followed by a humiliating defeat at Molodni the next year. The Crimean Khans reluctantly ceded control of the former eastern lands of the Golden Horde to Moscow. This last campaign proved to be the final great success of steppe armies over the Rus'. In the following decades, the Russian Tsardom soon stretched deep into Siberia. The continuous warfare of the fourteen and fifteenth centuries, coupled with epidemics and environmental stresses, left for the Russians nothing but depopulated, weakened khanates to pick off one by one; only to the south, in the great steppe, did the Crimean Khans armies stop Russian expansion; an expansion halted, as much as anything, by logistical difficulties in crossing the steppe, and threat of Ottoman support for the Crimean Khanate, rather than any military capability on the part of the Crimeans. Though the Crimean Khanate launched continuous raids on the southern frontier of Muscovy, Lithuania, Poland and assisted the Ottomans in campaigns into Eastern and Central Europe, they were no longer unassailable. Raids sent on Moscow's order, or undertaken by the fiercely Cossack hosts who now roamed the steppes, now penetrated into the Crimean peninsula itself. Still, they clung on. Over the 1700s the Russian Empire steadily encroached and isolated Crimea, while Ottoman support became ever more tepid. Only in 1783 was the Crimean Khanate finally annexed by Empress Catherine the Great, shortly after the Russians had essentially ended its political independence. The final Crimean Khan, Şahin Giray, was executed a few years later by the Ottomans. When the Kazakh Khanates were finally dissolved by the Russians in the following century, so with them went the last vestiges of the Golden Horde, and the Mongol Empire. So ends our history of the Golden Horde, and in turn the Mongol Empire. Be sure to turn in next week as we wrap up our series on the Chinggisid empire, and leave you with considerations for the start of our next series, so be sure to subscribe to the Kings and Generals Podcast to follow. If you enjoyed this and would like to help us continue bringing you great content, consider supporting us on patreon at www.patreon.com/kingsandgenerals. 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