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A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. Host Miko Lee speaks with author, activist Michelle MiJung Kim about her new Podcast, I Feel That Way Too. Then we listen to the first episode. Michelle MiJung Kim Website I Feel That Way Too podcast     I FEEL THAT WAY TOO show Transcript Miko Lee: Welcome to APEX Express. I'm your host, Miko Lee, and tonight I'll be talking with author, speaker, and activist, Michelle MiJung Kim, about the new podcast. So we get to listen after the interview to the very first episode, and you get a little behind the scenes with activist Michelle MiJung. Kim, stay tuned. welcome, Michelle MiJung Kim to Apex Express. I'm so excited to chat with you. You are an award-winning author, activist, and now a podcast host. Hello girl. Welcome. Yay. Michelle MiJung Kim: Hello. Thank you so much for having me, Miko. I'm so excited. Miko Lee: I wanna start with my big question, who are your people and what legacy do you carry with you? Michelle MiJung Kim: Hmm. What a deep question that I can go on forever about. My people are, first and foremost people who are in my life, who have supported me throughout. Everything that I've gone through in my life, including my friends and family who have different lineages, people, most of the people that I hold near and dear carry with them, a deep understanding of their historical trauma, their familial trauma, and people who are courageous enough to share them [00:02:00] with me. So that really creates this bond that I have with my people. A lot of my people are in the queer and trans community and in the physical space of the Ohlone land, also known as Oakland, California. A lot of my community rooted in my Asian American identity. Miko Lee: Love this. My follow up, what is the legacy you carry with you from your people? Michelle MiJung Kim: The legacy that I carry from my people that jumps out to me right now is the legacy of my grandparents. My grandparents were both born in Korea. My grandpa from the north, my grandma from the south, and I am always thinking about how my grandpa was fighting for the Korea's liberation from Japanese occupation, and he was a writer himself. I always saw him writing and he had [00:03:00] stacks of paper ready to be published, but he ended up not being able to publish before he passed. So my book dedication starts with my gratitude to my grandparents and my grandpa specifically. The legacy of his work, his spirit, his love for philosophy, social justice language I carry with me. My grandmother, who was part of the first class of women in her generation to go to a university she was a badass matriarch of our family and her energy, her audacity, her courage, her confidence in her herself and her community is what I try to channel. I think about them every day. Miko Lee: Ugh. I love that. I'm wondering if you could share a little bit about your book. Michelle MiJung Kim: My book is called The Wake Up Closing The Gap Between Good Intentions and Real Change and really it's part memoir, part [00:04:00] principles of Social justice that I hold near to my heart. I really wanted to write a book that could be timeless and that could put into accessible ways how we can embody these values that are important for our collective liberation. So much of the social justice work that I encountered throughout my education journey had been highly intellectualized and theoretical and sometimes not unpacked in ways that feel human. I wanna see how people are struggling to hold social justice values while living their daily lives. How sometimes it gets challenging to embody the values that we say are important to us because it asks us to trade off our comfort and safety sometimes. I wanted to be really honest about my experience trying to live in alignment with my values, including the parts of my own contradictions and struggles and paradoxes that I've had to navigate. Miko Lee: Such a powerful [00:05:00] book for the time of now in that it does have the personal story, but then also recognizing what's happening in our world. It's really action forward. Tell me how you got from this book to creating a podcast series called. I feel that way too. Tell me what inspired this whole series? Michelle MiJung Kim: I think it is an extension of the work that I've been doing, which really marries personal storytelling and social justice values. I Feel that way too, exploring these tricky life questions like, can we be friends if we politically disagree? What if I'm not above revenge, even though I am a self-proclaimed abolitionist? Why do I have this urge to, be vengeful and why do I feel gleeful when people that have done harm get punished, right? Am I supposed to sleep with one person for the rest of my life? Am I a bad daughter? These are all the questions that I've struggled [00:06:00] with. I wanted to have an opportunity to unpack them with raw honesty and with guests that could really help guide me in thinking about these things while trying to stay tethered to my values around social justice. I've always been a fan of audio storytelling. So this was the perfect opportunity to explore that, especially in an era where the world is constantly insisting we solve these issues in isolation and we deal with our traumas in shame and without each other's witnessing. This is my way of hopefully making people feel a little bit less alone in their struggles and also in a way that, helps us to build more courage and community through stories. Miko Lee: I binge the entire season. Super fun, super personal., I was wondering how did you decide on these topics? Did they come naturally [00:07:00] or did you create an arc? Tell me about your process. Michelle MiJung Kim: I had probably two, three pages long list of topics that I wanted to explore and we had to pick and narrow it down. I wanted to tackle questions that felt existential in the collective psyche. I look at and feel into the zeitgeist of what is happening in the world . These are the questions that I wanted to explore because of my own life, but also some of these questions bring up a lot of shame and tension. when I looked at other podcasts that were exploring similar topics, I just felt as though a lot of these issues were being talked about in a very intellectualized way, in a very theoretical way without the raw sort of personal storytelling aspect that I was craving. So this was my attempt at being, courageous and practicing what I preach and being able to share some of the more vulnerable [00:08:00] tensions that aren't typically explored in the public arena. Miko Lee: Oh wow. So two whole more pages for future seasons of shows to do. I was, struck by how vulnerable the episodes are, how they're so personal. The first one being around, supporting your single mom and around financial and really emotional stability that really struck me as being so very personal and deep. I just wonder, has your mom and dad listened to the series or particularly that episode and what has been any response? Michelle MiJung Kim: Yeah. Um, my dad, no, but my mom, yes. I wanted my mom to listen to it before it aired. 'cause I thought that was the only fair thing to do. I gave her the option also to not have this air if she didn't want it to go live. And I was. So [00:09:00] scared about how she was gonna receive it. And for the listeners, the story really goes deep into my struggle around prioritizing her needs over my desires, and constantly living in this. Feeling of guilt for not doing more to support my mom. And also our definition of love and sacrifice being entangled in ways that feel sometimes impossible to navigate. I had attempted to have this conversation years ago with my mom that like completely backfire that I talk about on the podcast and, since then, I just never broached the subject because I was so nervous about how she was gonna take it. , And my biggest fear was her feeling less loved and feeling, hurt by my honesty. And so when it came time for me to present this podcast to her, I was incredibly nervous. What ended up happening was we ended up listening to the episode together. She was sitting [00:10:00] right there on the couch behind me and the, I played the episode and I just couldn't look at her face. So instead of looking directly at her, I had my camera on , so I could look at her through my phone. And I had my back toward her, and within the first five minutes she started crying. So I would pause the episode, talk to her about what was coming up for her. We would cry, we would fight, we would argue, we would apologize and we would cry again. So the entire episode that's 30 minutes long, took us three hours to get through. Miko Lee: Wow. Michelle MiJung Kim: It was incredibly difficult emotionally. And it was probably one of the most pivotal interactions I've ever had with my mom. I've been able to be more honest than ever with her. [00:11:00] She got to also be honest in her reaction and response, and we were able to be really brave with our vulnerability, which we had never done because most of our lives, our love and , especially our pain was communicated through silence. Just pretending that we're not hurting because we don't wanna hurt the other person. Very Asian. It was hard, very Asian, but it was also really healing. Miko Lee: Wow. I would love, love, love a follow up episode with you interviewing your mom. Michelle MiJung Kim: Yeah. I don't if request that. Miko Lee: I dunno if she'd be downed for that, but that would, I'm curious if you could share a little bit more about your needing to have your back toward her in the beginning and if that shifted over those three hours. Michelle MiJung Kim: Yeah. I think it was my fear of my truth being seen by her , and the inability for me to face her [00:12:00] when I knew my truth was hurting her. Hmm. And I also didn't want to pressure her to react in a certain way when I'm looking at her. So I, I, I don't know if she knew that I was looking at her through my phone. But I think I really wanted her to have an honest reaction and, that scared me. So I, and so at some point in. Yeah, I did turn around after I saw her crying. I paused the episode and I looked at her and I said, well, what's coming up for you? And she, her first thing, the first thing that she said was, I just don't remember it that way. Which started a whole nother conversation right around how she remembers my childhood, from her vantage point. And I think it's only natural for a parent, for anyone to want to know that their child, was not [00:13:00] hurt by their choices and that they did the best that they could and that was enough. And I think it's really hard to make space for the possibility that their best. Also cause harm. Hmm. Without making them, one dimensionally a bad person or a bad mother. I think holding multiple truths like that can be so difficult , for anyone, but especially when it comes to the impact that our action has on our loved ones. Mm-hmm. So I think it was truly, shattering the image of what she thought was our childhood. And rewriting an entire history in her mind, in order to make space for my reality. And I think that took a lot of courage on her part, and also a lot of grace, that she had to extend to herself and me. Miko Lee: And by the end of that three hours, did you have a sense of resolve or a different [00:14:00] path moving forward? Michelle MiJung Kim: I think we didn't come to a hundred percent agreement on what happened, which I didn't expect. But there was certainly things that were said that we had never verbalized before around what was hard, what was painful, and what we kept from one another. And I think we needed time away from each other to really process that. So I think we did the best that we could. Actually that night we went to a concert together 'cause we already had tickets and we could not go. And we went, Miko Lee: what was the concert? Michelle MiJung Kim: We went to a K-pop concert, Bada, which is Miko Lee: Oh yeah. Michelle MiJung Kim: All like dancing. Miko Lee: Love her. Michelle MiJung Kim: So we just let out all of our angst , dancing and that was a good end to our night. Miko Lee: That's a great way to actually resolve dance it out. Michelle MiJung Kim: Yeah, exactly. We just dance it out. And then, at first it was a little awkward, but, we got over it. Mm-hmm. [00:15:00] Afterwards, she listened to the podcast on her own with a transcript because her first language is not English. She really wanted to make sure that she understood what she listened to. So she had the transcript in front of her and she was looking up words that she didn't understand. She said that really helped her to understand more of what, I was trying to say. I didn't expect this, but weeks later she just randomly said, I am really sorry. I did the best that I could and I didn't know how much you were carrying. That changed everything for me. I didn't expect that kind of acknowledgement and validation from her when I was putting out this episode when I was writing it. I truly just wanted to do justice to my own truth and make space for my stories in ways that I'd never done before. But to then receive her acknowledgement, of some of the things that [00:16:00] I talked about was. Truly invaluable and healing in ways that I didn't expect. That completely changed our relationship. I'm able to be a lot more honest with her and I feel less, guarded about, the most tender parts of me when I'm around her. Miko Lee: Wow, that's so powerful that one episode. How impactful. Thank you so much for sharing about that. the topics that rose to the top in your conversations? Every single one of them had such universality, the Oxford study then the talking about Gaza and the impact on your job, being friends with somebody that you disagree with politically, each of these topics, there's so much resonance. I'm wondering of the three pages you had to choose from, how did these float to the top? Michelle MiJung Kim: It was a tough one. I had a team that I talked to about which topics to prioritize and we all got votes [00:17:00] on which ones we wanted to talk about. Some I had to really push to get it in to the season. The one about, my open relationship journey, they were like, why the hell do , we wanna talk about this? For me it was like, it's not about how to do open relationship 101 or how to do poly 1 0 1. It's actually about desire. Right. How we get in touch with our desire and practice wanting and being able to practice wanting that is at the core of that episode. I really wanna talk about it because no one else was talking about it. Miko Lee: I appreciated that episode because it was about autonomy. Like how do you hold on to who you are as an individual? To me, I didn't look at it as much about poly as much as it about who am I and how do I hold on to my belief in who I am even in the midst of being in a relationship. Michelle MiJung Kim: Absolutely. Exactly. I think I wanted to prioritize topics that weren't popular in terms of the public discourse, not 'cause [00:18:00] it's not something that people are grappling with, but because it's tricky to navigate. Because it requires a lot of nuance and often I think when we talk about desire or when we talk about personal wellness and self-development, it's so often done through the lens of, white co-opted, self-help culture. I wanted to do it in a way that felt more in alignment with my values around social justice. I picked the topics that were less explored through that lens, but also that, I felt were present in our public zeitgeist and in the cultural musings. Some of these topics were also timely. Like the one about my job loss due to Palestine or my struggle with my friendships that were breaking all over the place because of our political disagreement or the conversation around [00:19:00] abolition and conflict, navigating conflict in our own lives that map to our vision of the collective liberation Miko Lee: and the contradictions that we hold. Michelle MiJung Kim: Exactly, and the contradictions that we hold and that we have to make room for that often get, muted or disregarded because it's uncomfortable to talk about or that makes us feel less radical, less critical, less social justice-y And I think these are actually quite urgent topics that we need to talk about in order for us to create more, coalitions, more resilient relationships that is at the foundation of all of our organizing. Whether that is, you know. Or in our political work or personal, , living in alignment with our values. So I felt these were also timely conversations that needed to be had in a way that felt accessible, personal, and honest, that wasn't overly packaged up. So that people can [00:20:00] resonate with the raw struggles. Miko Lee: I also appreciate how you put listeners voices in at the end and just with their perspectives, because as you're talking about, for instance, the breaking up with friends because of political differences, then we're hearing other people's voices about their experiences. So how did you do those call out for those voices and did you identify specific topics you wanted colleagues to speak on? Michelle MiJung Kim: Yeah, so we did a call out for voicemails for every episode, and it was so important for me. I kept pushing our team to do it, even though we were running out of time and resources. They were like, no, we gotta cut this part out. And I was like, no, because the podcast is called, “I Feel that way too” and it's about, not just me, but how my story then gets reflected by the entire community. I wanted to make sure that the community voices become a part of this episode. I did a call out on my social media, on my newsletter, and it was actually quite hard to get people [00:21:00] to submit voicemails. I think people feel a lot of pressure to get it perfect. I asked my friends and they said they wanted to do it, but they were feeling pressured because they feel, they felt like they didn't know what to say and they wanted to say it in a way that felt professional. And so Miko Lee: come up with something profound. Michelle MiJung Kim: Exactly. They wanted to be profound and everything that we do, I think takes a level of courage. I really appreciated people who submitted their voicemails. Miko Lee: Yeah. Michelle MiJung Kim: We had voicemails coming from New Zealand, from Taiwan, from the United States from Canada, and so it was wonderful to know that there was a global sort of connection to these issues and the things that we are grappling with, and also knowing that we're none of us is really alone. Miko Lee: Speaking to the alone, we're living in such a time of isolation right now and where there's two different parties with really clear agendas and people are this way or [00:22:00] people are that way, and yet your title is, “I feel that way too”. Can you share a little bit about where that title comes from? Michelle MiJung Kim: I was part of my very first high risk direct action calling for an end to the genocide in Palestine, I was terrified and I decided to partake in it because I didn't know what else to do to process my anger and my desperation, watching what was happening unfold on my screen. I just felt like I had to do something more than what I was used to doing, whether it's donating or signing petitions or writing. There was a collective gaslighting during that time where the media outlets were justifying what was happening in Gaza. People were being, retaliated against for talking about Palestine. There was this overall, polarization between people who felt this [00:23:00] urgent need to do something about Palestine versus people who are living their daily lives as if nothing was happening. I went to participate in this direct action, I was surrounded by people who felt similarly, and after this really intense action took place when everybody was highly activated and charged because we had just seen our comrades be arrested and then released, and we were, just in our adrenaline. We all held hands to chant together collectively. And the chant went like this. ” Don't worry, I got you. I feel that way too. We'll get through together, we'll make our way through.” And when the chant leader said, I feel that way too, something in me broke and I just started weeping. In that moment, I just needed to feel like I wasn't alone in feeling this kind of [00:24:00] desperation, this type of pain and trauma, and anger towards our systems, and that just holding hands with complete strangers. Chanting, I feel that way too. Made me feel so much more grounded and hopeful and courageous to a point where I felt I was able to take more risks than I was comfortable with. So that's where, that's the origin of the phrase. I feel that way too, for our podcast. I just think back to that moment where I felt so seen, I felt so held and encouraged just by the sentence. I feel that way too. That's the kind of feeling that I hope to be able to gift to our listeners, whoever's listening to our podcast and whatever topic may be. I hope more people feel encouraged by the stories that we share and the way that we are creating space for us to be vulnerable and courageous together. Miko Lee: I [00:25:00] love that. So you're asking your audience to listen, feel connected to something else, be able to be part of a bigger movement. Are there other things that you want your audience to ponder or to take action on? Michelle MiJung Kim: I think the podcast really is about, community and courage. The podcast asks us to be courageous about identifying what we want, about how we want to live our lives, who we want to be, and being courageous enough to face the contradictions and make space for the collective, and connection. I would love more than anything for people to feel seen. But also feel encouraged to share their stories with people in their lives and to hopefully be able to take action together. I think the action of caring for one another in this vulnerable, honest way, the way that my mom and I got through that very difficult conversation. That [00:26:00] in and of itself is healing. Multiple generations of trauma. If we all could muster up the courage to practice that level of honesty and courage with one another, so much of our, need to heal can be met and so much more possibility emerges from that action. After airing some of the episodes, we also hosted a discussion session. Called the Courage Collective, where we got to discuss and unpack what came up for people after they listened to the episode, and that was incredible. Just being able to have a consistent space where people can meet provided that sense of community that we all need right now to be able to move in solidarity with our broader movement , and to sustain this very difficult, exhausting path that we're all walking in our personal lives, but also in our collective lives. I hope people can listen to the podcast and share with somebody that they wanna talk about the topics and keep the [00:27:00] conversation going in a way that can encourage you to take action that brings you closer to more community, more possibilities for our collective liberation. Miko Lee: Michelle MiJung Kim, thank you so much for joining us on Apex Express. We're gonna put a link to the entire series in our show notes. where else can they find out more information about you and your work and your book. Michelle MiJung Kim: Everything you need to know about me on my website, www.michellemijungkim.com. You can sign up for my newsletter and follow me on social media, on Instagram at Michelle Kimkim or on LinkedIn. Miko Lee: Love it. Thank you so much for joining me. So now take a listen to the first episode of, “I Feel that way too.” Michelle MiJung Kim: The other day I was talking to my mom about my uncle, her older brother who has stage four lung cancer. My mom was [00:28:00] venting about how upset she was that her brother's kids weren't jumping at the opportunity to pay his hospital bills. She said he sacrificed his whole life for them. How could they do this to him? I mean, they have their own lives too, mom. One of them has a little kid. It's not exactly cheap to raise kids in Korea. So I don't know. It feels fair to me that they're talking about what they can or can't afford. My mom was not having it. She said they have their whole lives to be there for their kid, but their dad, he doesn't have that much time left. They should do everything they can to support him. Wait, were we talking about love or money? My mom knew there was a difference right after a few back and forths. I just asked her the question that I really wanted to ask. Do you think uncle feels like his kids [00:29:00] don't love him because they're not giving him money? It wasn't just a question about my uncle and his kids. It was a question about me and my mom. About love and sacrifice, after all, isn't our willingness to sacrifice the ultimate measure of our love. Hi, and welcome to, I Feel That Way Too, a podcast where we ask some of life's trickiest questions and together find the courage to unpack them one story at a time. If you've ever wondered how life could be different, but didn't know where to turn, I'm here to tell you, you are not alone. I feel that way too. Ever since I was young, I felt responsible for taking care of my single mom. You know, growing up seeing her sacrifice so much for [00:30:00] me and my younger sister. When I got older, I just thought, yeah, that's my job now. That's just what you do, right? Whether it was taking a soul sucking corporate job, or using my savings to relocate her from Korea. I took the responsibility for caring for her seriously. I took pride in it. Whatever sacrifice I had to make felt appropriate, given how much I love her and how much she'd given up to raise me. But as an adult, I've been struggling with this more and more. If the only way I can express my love is by showing how much I'm willing to sacrifice, then how can I ever prioritize my own desires and needs? What do I do with all the guilt and shame and resentment that comes from feeling burdened by this responsibility? Have I become so Americanized that the idea of al piety feels suffocating? Am I a bad daughter? I mean, [00:31:00] that's such a common experience. This can be even more complicated in immigrant families because often we have those values, right? Sahaj Kaur Kohli: Asian values, filial piety, or we see fism as a really big value in immigrant households. So putting other people first, prioritizing the family over the individual, that's a hedged core Coley. She's a therapist, writer, and founder of Brown Girl Therapy, the first and largest mental health organization for children of immigrants. I've been following her on Instagram for years now, and I love the fact that she's making mental health relevant and accessible for Asian Americans like me, like learning Speaker 3: about words like enmeshment. So enmeshment is this idea that there are very loose or no boundaries within. Relationship. So in the family system, if we're talking about families, there are no boundaries. There is research that suggests that immigrant families tend to be more enmeshed because they're actually trying to protect themselves and their loved ones, creating these insular communities and [00:32:00] families from harm from the dominant society. So it was adaptive initially, but of course, just because it's adaptive doesn't necessarily mean it's healthy. We can see now that that kind of loose boundaries can lead to people feeling really dependent on one another. So often that's it's hierarchical in immigrant families, so it's a top down of dependency, but then children are being dependent on more, depending on your birth order, your age, your gender, your being dependent on in different ways. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: Becoming someone my mom can depend on was kind of my life purpose for a long time. My attention was always on what she needed and how I could provide that as a kid. I rarely asked my mom for anything that wasn't practical or necessary. She was a single working mom, and I could see how hard she was working just to keep us afloat. Instead, I tried to help however I could. I'd hand over my New Year's allowance from my aunties and uncles. Whenever we went out [00:33:00] to eat, I'd always check the prices on the menu to make sure I wasn't picking something too expensive. I worked hard in school, got good grades, and told myself, this is how I can help. I'll get into a good college, land a good job, and make enough money to take care of her. That's exactly what I did. Right after college, I jumped into corporate America instead of chasing my passion for social justice because. At the time, what mattered most was bringing my mom to the US and supporting her financially. And honestly, I was proud of myself for that, starting so young, being able to help my mom. It felt good. Looking back though, I realized that I never really let myself just want things, you know, like things just for me. And then in my thirties, something started to shift. I found myself really struggling with our relationship. I was having trouble differentiating my desires from her needs. Speaker 3: So in the Western world, we talk about [00:34:00] individuation. When you're an adolescent, you were growing up and you start to build your unique interests and you start to prioritize your friends and you start to be your own person. A lot of us immigrant children didn't really get that we were still expected to do X, Y, and Z, so we didn't really get that chance to individuate around that age, you know, as we're 12, 13, up until 19, 20, 21. And so a lot of us are doing that later in life. I work with clients who are 30, 40, 50 years old who are like, wow, this is the first time I'm doing something for myself. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: At every crossroads in my career, my decisions were often tied to one question. How will this affect my ability to support my mom? Can I quit my job? How much money do I need saved up to cover both of us for six months? Even little decisions like whether to make a frivolous purchase came with this gnawing sense of responsibility. That kind of mental math had become second nature, but prioritizing my own joy and [00:35:00] abundance. Well, that always came with a side of guilt. It felt like my entire life was split in two. One part lived for me and the other for my mom, and as I got older, the tension between the two only grew becoming harder to navigate and more emotionally draining. Sahe calls this parent child role reversal parentification. Speaker 3: At the root of it, there are two types of parentification. There's instrumental parentification, which is more about taking care. In more practical roles of the family. So maybe, you know, cooking for sick relatives or making sure your younger siblings were okay, or if you were a latchkey kid, left at home alone, you know, going to school one time, making your bed, all of these things that you had to do for yourself or for your family because maybe your parents were out working or just weren't able to do it. And then we have emotional parentification, which is more about taking on those emotional roles. So being the family mediator, maybe taking on the role [00:36:00] of a parent or a spouse for one of your parents, because either one parent isn't more present or because emotionally they don't have the type of relationship where they speak to each other more emotionally or vulnerably. So a parent might use a child to do that. It's also about generally managing your parents' feelings. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: One year after many years of working with my therapist, I mustered up the courage to set some financial boundaries with my mom. Not necessarily because of money, but because I needed to shed the guilt. That gnawing feeling that whatever I was doing was never enough and that there was always more to give. I thought if I can get my mom to tell me the exact amount that she actually needs, then I can finally know that I'm meeting her expectations and I don't have to wonder if I'm not doing enough. I could handle the financial responsibility, but I didn't wanna carry the emotional weight anymore. So one day at a [00:37:00] posh new Indian Fusion restaurant that I thought she'd like, I mustered up the courage to ask her, can you tell me exactly how much you need monthly so I can better budget my own finances? Up until then, I was paying her rent and giving her allowance in random amounts, paying for whatever needs arose at various times throughout the month. She was visibly perturbed by my question. Without looking at me, she said, just give me whatever you can. I insisted, no, mom, I want you to tell me what you need and want. She replied, I just want you to do what feels good and right for you. I said, I don't know what that is, so I need you to tell me. I was getting frustrated. She was getting uncomfortable, so I said. Okay, fine. So if I said $500 per month, that's okay with [00:38:00] you. She looked visibly worried. See, so you know what you need. Why won't you just tell me, make my life easier? She burst into tears. Why are you making me say an amount? You want me to feel shame? I already feel bad now. We were both cry, yelling. People at other tables were exchanging awkward glances. She said, don't make me say an amount out loud. I want you to support me because you love me and because you want to, not because I'm asking you to. At this point, my voice was near full volume, tears dripping down my face from knowing I had caused her pain, but somehow my untamed anger kept spilling out. Despite knowing full well that I had done enough damage to my mom's heart, I desperately needed her to see my pain too. I shouted, [00:39:00] I do love you, and I'm asking for your help. Why can't you just help me? I never got my mom to say an amount. It was as if I had spoken the very thing that needed to remain unsaid. By speaking the unspoken. I had broken the delicate dance we'd been doing for decades where love meant anticipating needs and quietly fulfilling it to save face. Where protecting meant pretending not to see the weight we each carried, because naming it would make it all too real. Silence had become our shared language of care, but now we were at a loss for words. We packed up our untouched food without speaking and left the restaurant, and I never brought up the topic again. And here I was wanting her to tell me exactly what she needed so that I could feel less [00:40:00] guilt for feeling like I'm not doing enough, even though I was doing a lot. Speaker: Mm-hmm. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: And so we were at this crossroads and we couldn't see past each other's pain and our own pain in being able to connect to one another. And since then I've been really hesitant to bring up. Any conversations around money or boundaries with her, because first and foremost, I'm terrified of her feeling like she's not loved. That somehow if I bring this up, she's going to feel more like she's a burden and she's going to stew in her own shame knowing that I don't think she has. Capacity and the skillset to be able to hold her emotions right now. And then I feel resentful that I have to think through what she needs before I can just be a child and tell her to meet me where I am for once. Right? Mm-hmm. And so then the cycle just continues and I am not sure I, I know how to get out of it. Speaker 3: Boundaries is such a like. Trigger [00:41:00] word for so many of us, right? When you hear the word boundaries, you're like, no. All of a sudden that door closes and you say, this is not something that's gonna speak to me. Because it has this reputation of being like, cut people out. Say no, protect yourself. And those narratives really don't speak to so many of us who come from collectivist backgrounds where. We want to maintain a lot of these relationships. We just don't want it to feel as bad as it does. And so disentangling and learning how to disentangle our feelings and our values from our parents is often the work I do with my clients. And it takes a long time, right? Because you are sitting down, sifting through a basically a pile of values, norms, expectations, feelings, and saying, okay, this one belongs to me. This one belongs to my mom. This one belongs to my dad. And trying to figure out. Where does that leave you, and how do we move forward and build the sense of self with things that actually feel true to you? And a lot of that work is painful. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: Trying to disentangle my definition of love from my mom's isn't the only thing that's been painful to navigate. It's also the [00:42:00] realization that so much of my upbringing fundamentally shapes the way I live today. Speaker 3: At its best, parentification can lead to having a lot of pride developing really good work ethic, being really mindful of your role in your family and leaning into that. But at its worst, it can be a form of emotional neglect. And I think that's really important because in my work with children of immigrants, a lot of times a lot of us don't realize that we have different needs when we're growing up. And sure, maybe you had a roof over your head, maybe you were, you know, sent to school, maybe you always had food on the table. And these are really. Big significant needs that were met, but were you also cared for emotionally? Were you allowed to express your emotions? Were you modeled and nurtured emotionally? So just being taught that even emotions weren't something that was safe to have. And so in that way, that's when parentification can become a sign of emotional neglect. So as by definition, parentification is taking on adult-like roles or roles that are. Older than you are developmentally at a young [00:43:00] age. And it can lead to people pleasing, it can lead to perfectionism, it can lead to constantly, um, monitoring our parents or other people's emotions or feelings. Right? Those are very common long-term consequences of being parentified children because we've never really learned how to take up space. People pleasing, Sahaj Kaur Kohli: perfectionism, hyper vigilance. Yeah. I've been dealing with all of them pretty much my entire life. One of my core memories from when I used to live in Korea was being invited to a friend's house After school, we were supposed to do homework together, and her mom sat with us going over everything and helping us out. I remember feeling so reassured, like finally someone was helping me in the way that Mamie feel safe and cared for. And because I wanted to be invited back, I was always on my absolute best behavior. I didn't want her to feel like I was being a burden or a nuisance, so I made sure to take my shoes [00:44:00] off in the neatest way possible. I made sure to wipe off any crumbs off the table, and I even offered to do the dishes. Y'all, I was barely 10, but I felt like I needed to be, liked to be helped. The truth is. I am resentful. I resent that I never got to just be a kid. I'm angry that I couldn't tell my parents that I was sad or hurt or scared. I'm angry that I thought care and attention were earned. By making myself small, likable, and pleasant. I'm angry that I couldn't allow myself to rest or stumble because I knew there was no safety net to catch me and that I thought it was easier to not want than to be disappointed. But for the first time in my life, there is something I want [00:45:00] just for myself. I want to heal desperately. I want to shed this weight so I can finally be my most authentic, free, and expansive self without needing to prove anything to anyone. I want to access the safety, abundance, joy, and ease that I didn't have as a. Child. Talking to my parents about my childhood wounds feels really hard. Not only because I'm worried about how it'll make them feel, but because deep down I truly believe that they loved me the best way they knew how so? How do I even begin to tell them that their best wasn't enough to protect me from harm? How do I share that? I feel resentful for the child that I never got to have without breaking their hearts in the process. And the hardest part, even now, I catch [00:46:00] myself prioritizing their feelings over my truth. It is like this unshakeable sense of responsibility where their comfort feels more important than my pain. How do I even untangle that? Speaker 3: You deserve joy and peace and ease. I mean, ultimately so many of us aren't able to give ourselves permission to be able to work towards joy and peace and ease. 'cause we don't believe we're deserving of it. And that is a product of, you know, these family dynamics, but also guilt and shame and not knowing the difference between those two. And then feeling like we automatically are. Bad if we aren't constantly pleasing other people. So many of us also struggle with that, uh, binary mindset. You know, if I feel this way, it's wrong. If my parents are disappointed, I'm a bad child. And that's not true. We have to learn. And [00:47:00] you have to decide at what point you're willing to accept that it might not change. And then decide what you're willing to tolerate. And that's the acceptance in grief work that is so hard and grief, I call it grief for a reason. 'cause grief never goes away. There's no resolution in grief. It's learning to build a life around it. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: Yeah, that's so real and so hard, that whole acceptance piece, right? Knowing that it's going to take time, but also that there may need to be a time where you start to accept, uh, your parents for who they are and what they have capacity for and what they don't. What's been really difficult for me is the acceptance of the reality. And my desire to heal, part of me feels like I can't heal until I get the acknowledgement, until I get the validation, until I feel seen in my entirety by my mom and by my dad. And sometimes I feel like that just sets me up for more disappointment and sense of betrayal and resentment because I [00:48:00] am not getting the very sort of human and childlike need from my parents. But knowing that that may never come, and I can't depend on that for my healing, but that's been really hard to accept. Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, that makes me really sad because I'm hearing you like deny yourself something that you deserve because you're still waiting for your parents to give you permission for it. When you can give yourself permission for it yourself, but for some reason you don't feel like you have enough agency or you're not allowed to be the one who decides I can heal. Even without my parents' acceptance. And that's a lot of the inner child like re-parenting work of like, you know, thinking about little Michelle and what she needs and how do you give it to her. How do you find power and strength in being able to be the adult who can say, fine, if you're not gonna take care of this little girl I am. I'm gonna take care of her. And it's really hard, right? And it's really painful, but. [00:49:00] It hurts me to hear you say that you won't be able to do this until you get that permission, because the reality is you may never get that acceptance and acknowledgement you're looking for from them. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: In high school, when I came out as bisexual to my dad, he just ignored it. He pretended he didn't hear me change the subject, and that was that we never talked about it again. And honestly, I was fine with that at the time. He didn't wanna hear more and I didn't want to share more. We lived under the same roof, but how much did we really know about each other? Anyway, fast forward many years later, I was on my way to a date with a woman I just met. I was on the phone with my dad and thought maybe this is a chance to let him in on my life, just a little. So I told him where I was going and casually asked, what would you do if I ever brought a girl home? I don't know what I [00:50:00] was expecting to hear, but I definitely wasn't prepared for his answer. Don't come home. He said Speaker 3: It's very challenging and I think I just recently had these conversations with a couple clients of mine where, you know, sometimes we have to ask ourselves. The greatest gift we can give people we love is letting them see us for all parts of ourselves, right? Every part of who we are. That's the greatest gift we can give someone we love. And not everyone deserves that gift, especially if they're not tending to it, nurturing it. And I see you like, as like a younger version of you, like vulnerable and raw and saying, love me, love me, love me. Mm-hmm. It's not just you, it's it's all of us. Right? We, we have these experiences. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: It wasn't until one Thanksgiving back at my dad's house that I realized just how much I did crave my dad's acceptance and love. Thanksgiving is one day [00:51:00] that we all gather at my dad's house. We ordered a Thanksgiving family meal from Boston Market that no one really likes chit chat and eat for no more than 40 minutes and migrate over to the living room to watch a movie of someone's choosing, usually me or my dad. This has been our way of bonding for as long as we started gathering. The movie that my dad, the same man who stonewalled me when I came out to him in high school, chose for us to watch, was Boy Erased a movie about a gay man's search for acceptance from himself and his family without making eye contact. He said, have you seen this? I thought you might like it. It's about a gay person. As someone who's never been interested in anything L-G-B-T-Q related, this was his clumsy way of inching closer to me. My dad didn't throw me a coming out party. He didn't wear a rainbow pin or proclaim how proud he was to be an ally. [00:52:00] There was no tearful heart to heart about acceptance, apologies, forgiveness, or unconditional love. And you know what? At that moment I realized. I didn't need any of that. Sitting side by side on that Costco couch of his, I understood exactly what his silence was trying to say. Speaker 3: And that's what happens in high context cultures, right? It's not about being direct, it's not about being explicit. It's more about what the contextual clues are. I think behaviors is where it all comes down to. So that might have been your dad's way of saying, I accept you and the way that I know how, and me watching this with you is my way of showing that in the same way that my dad. Never growing up or through my thirties, only recently started to say, I love you. But growing up I would go home and he would leave me newspaper clippings about mental health or about something I had told him about and those would be on my bed every time I would visit home. And that's, I knew, was his way of saying, I love you. [00:53:00] Right. We have the cut fruit anecdote that everyone has in an Asian household. Our mom's way of loving us is through food and by caring for us and caretaking for us. 'cause that's the role they knew how to play. I even had an interesting conversation with my mom where I've asked her, I think this was a while ago, where I asked her, what else do you wanna do? Like stop trying to do my laundry when I come home. Get out of the kitchen. We'll just order food. But then I realized it made her sad and I realized I was actually taking away her agency to love me in the way she knew how. Because that's not how I need to be loved. I've also asked my parents, did your parents ever say, I love you? When was the first time or the last time you, you heard them say that to you? What was that like for you? Oh, that must have been really sad that your parents didn't even say, I love you. You know, that impacts kids. And then using that as a frame of like. Are you thinking about how you don't do it with me? Like sometimes it takes these little kind of games before we can get to a place where we feel like we can get that conversation going. But even then, where can we find beauty in the relationship with our [00:54:00] parents? I'm sure if we, you know, really wanted to dive deep into it, we would. You would be able to think of like strengths in your relationship with your parents, ways that they do love you or see you even if it's not what you want. The way that they love you is still a way that they are showing you that they love you. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: When I think about my younger self, I sometimes find myself imagining my mom and dad when they were young, what were they like growing up? How many crushes did my mom have as a teenager? When did she start sneaking cigarettes? And what made her start? Who was there for my dad when he lost his dad as a child who told them they were loved? When was the last time someone asked them about their hopes and dreams? What did they long for? Growing up in Korea with my mom, she often told me her parenting philosophy. [00:55:00] I want us to be like friends. She'd say, she'd tell me stories about how she was always afraid of her mom, how strict my grandma was. How she never got the chance to fully explore her passions and curiosities. One day when I was in elementary school, she just said, you're not going to school today. And instead of taking me to school, she drove me and my sister to a farm outside the city. She told us real life experiences are more important than what you learn in textbooks. She didn't want us to live inside the same box. She'd grown up in. She wanted something different for us. She'd say things like, date as many men as you can before you marry. Travel as much as you can while you're young. Learn to drive as soon as you can. More than anything, she wanted us to be free freer than she ever got to [00:56:00] be. The way my parents love me and the way I love them. It's not something you'd find in some textbook. It's messy. It's complicated. It's nuanced, and it's big. It's so big. It is not the kind of love you see in those Hallmark movies where a white parents hug you and say, I love you at least 15 times a day. But I feel it. I feel it in the everyday moments, like when my mom insists on doing my laundry with her permanently sore back, or when she likes every single thing I post on Instagram. I feel it every time she sees me and says, you're so pretty with genuine awe in her eyes.[00:57:00] Michelle MiJung Kim: If you liked what you heard today, please tell your family. Tell your friends. Tell your people. Subscribe to our show and leave us a review. Sahaj Kaur Kohli: Wanna hear more from me in Sege? Watch the full interview on the I feel that way. Two YouTube channel. And while you're at it, subscribe to our newsletter on our website at www dot I feel that way. Two.com. Miko Lee: Please check out our website, kpfa.org/program, apex Express to find out more about our show. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating, and sharing your visions with the world. Your voices are important. APEX Express is a collective of activists that includes Ayame Keane-Lee, Anuj Vaidya, Cheryl Truong, Isabel Li, Jalena Keane-Lee, Miko Lee, Preeti Mangala Shekar and Swati Rayasam. Have a great [00:58:00] night. The post APEX Express – 9.18.25 – I Feel That Way Too appeared first on KPFA.

LeMaire Lee and Matt Maran join Zac Amico and discuss the butt sniffer back at it again, booze-free weddings, the best cream soda, The Island Boys Flyysoulja getting heat on line for posting pics of his baby for clout, the best hangover cure, the man who sued their pharmacy for revealing to his wife that he was cheating, the woman who found out her husband was cheating through the home scale and so much more!(Air Date: September 3rd, 2025)Support our sponsors!Hims - Start your free online Hims visit today at https://www.hims.com/ZOOBodyBrainCoffee.com - Use promo code: ZOO15 to get 15% off!Zac Amico's Morning Zoo plug music can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMgQJEcVToY&list=PLzjkiYUjXuevVG0fTOX4GCTzbU0ooHQ-O&ab_channel=BulbyTo advertise your product or service on GaS Digital podcasts please go to TheADSide.com and click on "Advertisers" for more information!Submit your artwork via postal mail to:GaS Digital Networkc/o Zac's Morning Zoo151 1st Ave, #311New York, NY 10003You can sign up at GaSDigital.com with promo code: ZOO for a discount of $1.50 on your subscription and access to every Zac Amico's Morning Zoo show ever recorded! On top of that you'll also have the same access to ALL the shows that GaS Digital Network has to offer!Follow the whole show on social media!LeMaire LeeTwitter: https://twitter.com/lemaireleeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lemairelee/ Matt MaranTwitter: https://twitter.com/realmattmaranInstagram: https://instagram.com/realmattmaranZac AmicoTwitter: https://twitter.com/ZASpookShowInstagram: https://instagram.com/zacisnotfunnyDates: https://punchup.live/ZacAmicoSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome back to Your World of Creativity, the podcast where we explore creative insights from leaders across the arts, innovation, business, and beyond.Today's guest is John Pawlowski, a seasoned brand strategist and marketing executive with over a decade of experience leading innovation and growth in the consumer packaged goods industry.From household names like Marie Callender's and PF Chang's to the bold new frontier of premium pet food with Heckova, John brings a creative mindset to every stage of brand development.John's Website @heckovapet on Instagram linkedin.com/in/pawlowskijohn1: The Brand-Building MindsetYou've launched and revitalized iconic brands in the highly competitive world of frozen foods. What's your process for identifying the creative white space in a crowded category—and turning that into a compelling brand identity? What lessons from CPG branding did you find most transferable when you transitioned into pet food marketing?2: The 'Mega' MomentAt Conagra, you spearheaded the launch of a 'Mega' brand, which went on to surpass $200 million in sales. What was the creative spark behind that brand, and how did you translate that into product, messaging, and ultimately, consumer loyalty? Were there any big risks or bold decisions in that process that paid off?3: The Humanization of PetsThe humanization of pets is one of the biggest trends in the pet food industry. How do you creatively tap into the emotional connections people have with their pets when crafting messaging for Heckova? What role does storytelling play in gaining the trust of pet parents?4: Innovation in a Regulated SpaceCPG and pet food are both highly regulated, especially with claims and ingredients. How do you foster creativity within those constraints, especially when developing new products or campaigns? How do you balance the creative drive with the analytical, P&L-focused mindset required in your role?5: Creative Leadership in ActionFrom managing agency partners to internal teams, you're constantly leading others through the creative process. What's your approach to building a culture of innovation and alignment? What advice would you give to young brand marketers who want to lead with both strategy and imagination? John, this has been a great look into the creative strategies behind some of the most recognizable brands—and now, one of the most exciting in pet food. Thanks for joining us on Your World of Creativity.This episode was brought to you by White Cloud Coffee Roasters. Get 10% off your first order of freshly roasted, ethically sourced coffee with the code CREATIVITY at checkout. Visit WhiteCloudCoffee.com.If you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to subscribe, rate, and review us on your favorite podcast app—and come back next time for more conversations at the intersection of imagination and industry. John has classical training as a brand marketer and P&L manager and over a decade of experience leading brand growth in the consumer packaged goods (CPG) industry at Conagra Brands (Omaha and Chicago) and Bellisio Foods (Minneapolis). He led growth, turnaround, and new launch strategies on major brands such as Marie Callender's, Banquet, Kid Cuisine, PF Chang's, Boston Market, and Atkins. While at Conagra, John spearheaded the launch of a new “Mega” brand that surpassed $200MM in sales. With the humanization of pet food as the biggest...

Long before he became a bestselling writer, Ocean Vuong sold rotisserie chickens at Boston Market. In his latest novel, The Emperor of Gladness, he explores the meaning that can be found in the daily grind of a fast food restaurant. The book follows a young addict named Hai as he unexpectedly becomes caretaker to an elderly woman and makes unlikely connections at the fast-food restaurant where he works. Ocean tells Mattea Roach about challenging the American Dream, how being raised by women shaped him and why this novel is his most self indulgent yet. When the book ends, the conversation begins. Mattea Roach speaks with writers who have something to say about their work, the world and our place in it. You'll always walk away with big questions to ponder and new books to read. Find and follow Bookends wherever you get your podcasts. More episodes of Bookends are available at https://link.mgln.ai/Afkvzq

Happy Wednesday! The Tush Push is here to stay, Goodell's getting an extension, Deshaun Watson's resumed throwing, we chat with 10TV's Nicole Shearin, we spell words, we argue about orange cinnamon rolls, Tyvis Powell drops by, we chat about going to Boston Market & we go Name Dropping with Jeff Rimer.

Long before he became a bestselling writer, Ocean Vuong sold rotisserie chickens at Boston Market. In his latest novel, The Emperor of Gladness, he explores the meaning that can be found in the daily grind of a fast food restaurant. The book follows a young addict named Hai as he unexpectedly becomes caretaker to an elderly woman and makes unlikely connections at the fast-food restaurant where he works. Ocean tells Mattea Roach about challenging the American Dream, how being raised by women shaped him and why this novel is his most self indulgent yet. If you enjoyed this conversation, check out these episodes:Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's triumphant return to fictionTeresa Wong: Illustrating her family's past — in all its ordinary and epic moments

Episode 420: I will discuss what happened to Boston Market Restaurants and read off the menu from The Branding Iron Restaurant in Oak Lawn, IL.

Episode 420: I will discuss what happened to Boston Market Restaurants and read off the menu from The Branding Iron Restaurant in Oak Lawn, IL.

IMMIGRATION DAY TICKETS: Immigration Day: Hosted by Brandon Stunt & Harley LacroixOn this episode of Yup, Another Podcast, we discuss the eagles becoming the 2024-2025 Super Bowl champions (7:04). Then we get into a conversation about what Galentine's day really is to women (17:20). Then Stunt is heart broken about the closers of Boston Market (19:20). This is followed by Drake dubbing Dj Khaled (30:11). Also figuring out who can say the N-Word (33:29). Then we gettin into Ye FKA as Kanye West Twitter crash out of sorts (45:00) All that and more on “Yup, Another Podcast”, a podcast about absolutely nothing and shit you actually care about.Follow Us On Twitter/Instagram@Yup_AnotherPod@ImStunt/@ImStunt1@HarleyNoDavidson@Chief_Leaf/@_ChiefEats_@LerStevensImStunt Vibes: Vol 24 https://linktr.ee/imstunt #MCMIGTV: https://www.instagram.com/tv/B8sKl_ynRNr/?igshid=9i6bh3bwmkwiVIMEO: #MCM on Vimeo 

SEASON 3 EPISODE 81: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:45) SPECIAL COMMENT: To paraphrase Van Jones and other panderers: This was the weekend Elon Musk truly became president. It was also the weekend the other guy became Donald J. Trumpuppet. The number of Republicans who defied Trump over the Continuing Resolution ranges, depending on your point of view, from 29 to ALL of them. Because they also voted by unanimous consent to bury Musk's fabricated controversy over the no-cost land transfer to the District of Columbia. Trump, for his part, is in a bigger hole now than he ever was during his presidency as the self-inflicted losses pile up: The Gaetz Lack-of-Ethics Report may come out today. Other nominations are in trouble. One new one may be Alan Dershowitz and another may have padded his resume. The idea of Recess Appointments is forgotten. Trump has been taunted with the "Musk Is President" chatter. Some Republicans are taking it seriously and suggesting him for Speaker. And that in turn let Democrats emphasize Trump tanked the deal to benefit his interests with the Chinese Communist Party. And Trump spoke yesterday for the first time in weeks and sounded drunk - which is a problem, because he doesn't drink. All while he is being pursued by his two worst enemies: himself - and Musk. B-BLOCK (27:00) POSTSCRIPTS TO THE NEWS: Remember my suggestion that MSNBC's response to Trump's win and its own tanking ratings was to do nothing but double down and exploit the Liberal Media Monopoly the cowards at CNN, The Washington Post and others were giving them? Guess what! MSNBC's new boss wants... better relationships with Republicans. (40:56) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: Martin Shrkeli emerged from his sewer to get owned on social media, New York sends a bill for damages to the family of a guy a police officer killed with an unmarked car, and are there secret Mark Burnett Trump Outtake Tapes? Don't ask Burnett - he now works for Trump. C-BLOCK (50:20) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: You have your Christmas story, I have mine. Mine is about falling off a cliff near Malibu filming a commercial for fast-food chicken. Stick around for the post-closing theme guest appearance Easter eggs courtesy some of my dogs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

KFC is launching a new restaurant concept. Grubhub owes millions of dollars to settle a lawsuit brought by the FTC. And Boston Market is expanding again. Just not in the U.S.

Kat Timpf ,a writer and comedian, is best know for her appearances on the Gutfeld show. 14 years ago, Kat was working at Boston Market when she told her friend she would be on Fox's Red Eye show (and that is one hell of an example of manifestation combined with hard work and focus). Through her writing, Kat scored an appearance on Redeye, which eventually led to a recurring role on Gutfeld.   In her new book, "I Used to Like You Until, How Binary Thinking Divides Us”, Kat seeks to break down the mental barriers that lead to binary thinking. Kat shares many of her personal struggles, including mental health challenges and an abusive relationship. Although Kat was scared about sharing so much, she decided that if sharing her vulnerability helped people relate to her, then the cringe and fear was worth it. Kat's goal with her book, and with sharing her personal stories is to  bridge the divides created by political partisanship, encouraging readers to look beyond assumptions and engage with others one on one. Kat also explains her libertarian views and the significance of being intentional about having meaningful conversations across ideological lines. Kat challenges binary thinking and inspires us to approach people with curiosity rather than judgment. Don't miss this important discussion about the dangers of binary thinking and the opportunities that open when people stop judging each other on party lines. We also discuss research that shows how people often have incorrect assumptions about the opposite party. https://www.therealkattimpf.com Notable Quotes: "Binary thinking is the enemy of critical thinking." "Politics makes us fight with people we know in our real lives over these politicians who don't even know or care that we exist." "I approach people with curiosity instead of with preconceived notions or judgments." "Vulnerability is going to be a huge way for us to get out of this mess that we're in." "I'm a writer who wound up on TV and not the other way around." *************************** PLEASE SHARE THIS EPISODE WITH A FRIEND  Follow us on Instagram at @meantforit Sign up for our  newsletter here  Visit our website at www.meantforit.com, email us directly at contact@meantforit.com We want to hear from you! Guest suggestions? Partner with us?  Drop us a note. 

Samantha David, a seasoned digital customer success expert, shares her journey from traditional customer service roles to pioneering digital CS strategies. She and Alex discuss the importance of automation, scaling human connection, and blending digital tools with human touchpoints to create proactive, personalized customer experiences.Chapters:00:03:36 - From New York hustle to Denver vibes  00:04:17 - Early career tales: Boston Market and Hallmark  00:06:15 - Lessons in evolution at Hallmark  00:08:17 - A journey into tech: Sam's path to digital CS  00:13:25 - What is digital CS, and why does it matter?  00:17:30 - Digital program managers vs. product managers  00:22:31 - Office hours: Scaling human connection  00:28:24 - Building automations to enhance customer success  00:33:38 - Merging digital and human touchpoints  00:38:57 - Digital success hubs inspire a vision  00:41:40 - LinkedIn, meetups, and learning from AI pioneers  00:44:38 - Connect and continue the conversation with SamEnjoy! I know I sure did…Samantha's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthaedavid/This episode of the DCX Podcast is brought to you by Thinkific Plus, a Customer Education platform designed to accelerate customer onboarding, streamline the customer experience and avoid employee burnout. For more information and to watch a demo, visit https://www.thinkific.com/plus/ Support the show+++++++++++++++++Like/Subscribe/Review:If you are getting value from the show, please follow/subscribe so that you don't miss an episode and consider leaving us a review. Website:For more information about the show or to get in touch, visit DigitalCustomerSuccess.com. Buy Alex a Cup of Coffee:This show runs exclusively on caffeine - and lots of it. If you like what we're, consider supporting our habit by buying us a cup of coffee: https://bmc.link/dcspThank you for all of your support!The Digital Customer Success Podcast is hosted by Alex Turkovic

Mike Burns is the Sales Director at Independent Tire Dealers Group, a company that supports independent tire dealers across the US by providing competitive buying power and networking opportunities. Under Mike's leadership, ITDG has achieved a 40% increase in locations over the past four years, expanding to 1,174 points of sale. Originally from New Jersey, Mike's career in the tire industry began at a Pep Boys store. He now resides in Houston, Texas with his wife and four daughters. In this episode… In an industry where competition is fierce, how does one independent tire dealer stand out and thrive? What strategies can turn a set of challenges into stepping stones for growth? Is there a way to leverage collective experience and resources while maintaining one's independence? Mike Burns, the Sales Director for the Independent Tire Dealer Group, offers insights into these questions by sharing his own journey from dishwashing at Boston Market to a leadership role in the tire industry. Through his career progression — from working at Pep Boys and Bridgestone Firestone to eventually joining ITDG — Mike underlines the importance of real-world experience, networking, and continuous learning. He emphasizes how ITDG helps independent dealers by providing a platform for growth, offering competitive programs, and fostering a network of like-minded professionals to share knowledge and support. The discussion also delves into the importance of balancing professional demands with personal growth, highlighting how skills learned in retail environments can translate to executive management. On this episode of Gain Traction, Mike Edge talks to Mike Burns about empowering independent tire dealers. They discuss ITDG's growth strategy, the significance of next-gen initiatives, and how Mike advises and supports ITDG members. The conversation paints a vivid picture of the tire industry, emphasizing the importance of relationships, adaptability, and strategic growth. With anecdotes from his personal and professional life, Mike highlights the value of community and collaboration in a competitive market. Here's a glimpse of what you'll learn:  [01:34] Meet Mike Burns: a voice made for radio [04:21] Mike's unlikely journey from New Jersey to Texas [05:57] How Bridgestone shaped Mike's future [17:05] Preparing future leaders in the tire industry [19:26] ITDG membership: listening and offering the right solutions [29:06] Mike's golden rule for success: treating people right Resources mentioned in this episode: Mike Burns on LinkedIn Independent Tire Dealers Group Pep Boys  Robert Everett on LinkedIn Bridgestone Americas  Mike Edge on LinkedIn Tread Partners Quotable Moments:  "You learn how to manage people. You learn how to manage your expenses. You learn how to handle customers." "Our mission is about enabling them to make the best possible decisions for their business." "Buy like you have 1,100 stores. We're like an equalizer." "Our story for as long as ITDG has been around is really one of growth." "Treat people the way that you would want to be treated, because it all comes back to you in the end." Action Steps:  Build strong industry relationships: Networking with peers and industry leaders can provide valuable insights and opportunities for growth. Seek continuous education and training: Pursuing further education, such as a MBA, or engaging in industry-specific training programs can enhance leadership and business management skills. Utilize technology for efficiency: Implementing technology and digital tools can streamline operations and improve customer service. Embrace a customer-centric approach: Focusing on customer satisfaction and service quality can lead to business success. Engage in next-generation leadership programs: Preparing the next generation to take on leadership roles ensures the continuity and success of the business. Sponsor for this episode... This episode is brought to you by Tread Partners.  At Tread Partners, we provide digital marketing for multi-location tire dealers and auto repair shops.  By using our strategy, branding, and marketing services, we help shops sell more tires and put more cars in bays. We've helped companies like Action Gator Tire, Colony Tire and Service, and Ulmer's Auto Care Center bring extreme growth in paid leads, ROI, and searches.  So, what are you waiting for? Visit www.treadpartners.com or email info@treadpartners.com to learn more.

A court dismissed Boston Market's appeal of the U.S. Foods lawsuit against the struggling chain. An activist investor is backing off some of his demands against Cracker Barrel.

Kat Timpf is a writer, comedian, and television personality. She's currently the co-host of “Gutfeld!” on Fox News weeknights at 10 p.m. and a Fox News analyst. She's also the author of the New York Times bestsellers "You Can't Joke About That: Why Everything is Funny, Nothing is Sacred, and We're All in This Together," and "I Used To Like You Until... (How Binary Thinking Divides Us)."Kat is a prolific writer, having worked as a columnist for National Review for nearly six years. She's also worked at Campus Reform, The Washington Times, Barstool Sports, and of course, Boston Market. She's no stranger to the stage, either: The national tour of her comedy live show, “You Can't Joke About That LIVE,” sold out in theaters all around the country.Kat stands out in a sea of pundits because of her libertarian perspective and use of comedy and satire to get her no-nonsense points across – even landing her on Variety's New Power of New York list in 2023. While she is steadfast in her strong libertarian beliefs, Kat is a firm believer in the power of conversations to bridge gaps, political or otherwise. Kat loves connecting with people across the country and around the world and talking about the things that are on everyone's minds, but no one's lips. And she is sure to do so with a great deal of respect and humor.She currently lives in New York City with her husband Cam, their dog Carl, and her cat Cheens.Follow Travis on:– IG

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KAT TIMPF BIO Kat Timpf is a writer, comedian, and libertarian commentator. She's currently the co-host of "Gutfeld!" on Fox News weeknights at 10 p.m. and a Fox News analyst. She's also the author of the New York Times bestseller "You Can't Joke About That: Why Everything is Funny, Nothing is Sacred, and We're All in This Together."Kat is a prolific writer, having worked as a columnist for National Review for nearly six years. She's also worked at Campus Reform, The Washington Times, Barstool Sports, and of course, Boston Market. She's no stranger to the stage, either: The national tour of her comedy live show, "You Can't Joke About That LIVE," sold out in theaters all around the country. Kat stands out in a sea of pundits because of her libertarian perspective and use of comedy and satire to get her no-nonsense points across -- even landing her onVariety's New Power of New York list in 2023. While she is steadfast in her strong libertarian beliefs, Kat is a firm believer in the power of conversations to bridge gaps, political or otherwise. Kat loves connecting with people across the country and around the world and talking about the things that are on everyone's minds, but no one's lips. And she is sure to do so with a great deal of respect and humor. She currently lives in New York City with her husband Cam, their dog Carl, and her cat Cheens. ABOUT HER BOOK I USED TO LIKE YOU UNTIL.. (HOW BINARY THINKING DIVIDES US) In this whip-smart follow-up to the "ruthlessly honest exploration of comedy and cancellation" (Dr. Drew, television host and New York Times bestselling author) You Can't Joke About That, New York Times bestselling author Kat Timpf examines the dangers of binary thinking, and how it threatens to take over our institutions, relationships, and even our freedoms. For some reason, when it comes to complex issues, we've largely limited ourselves to just two options, resulting in a society of non-thinkers. After all, once you've picked a side, all the thinking has already been done for you. As an independent, libertarian voter who has spent the last ten years at Fox News, Kat has faced this issue too many times to count. She's learned that surprising things can happen when you refuse to choose a team, especially when you work at a place some people call an existential threat to America.Binary thinking is much more than just the enemy of critical thinking, it's also an immediate danger to our political discourse, our institutions, our way of consuming news, our relationships, our creativity, and even to our freedoms. All too often, we will let a single difference in viewpoint, an assumption, or an association be enough to write off another person entirely, even if we know nothing else about them. We miss out on opportunities to connect or even collaborate, all while the people in power over us benefit from our division.Through humorous examples from her own life and insight only someone in her bizarre position can possess, Kat reminds us that the world doesn't have to be so black and white. In her signature witty voice, Kat inspires us to lean into thoughtful consideration, genuine conversation, vulnerability, and only hating people when they really deserve it. https://www.therealkattimpf.com/#bookBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/i-am-refocused-radio--2671113/support.

M-I-Z. It's game day and we'll take your predictions for tonight's game. Coming up on the papal conclave for the August Milagro Tequila Listener of the Month. Tim brought the heat on KSDK. If you're gonna hook up with another man present, make sure it's a stranger. Iggy is retiring from sleeping with listeners. Terry Weigel tales. Are the young more promiscuous now than 30 years ago? Lemay Bar Mitzvahs and Hoosier Quinceañeras. DraftKings Cal checking in. He's not happy he can't win listener rewards from out of town. Yesterday's Creator Classic. People are sending in their driving distance. Iggy's cozy cut. Not a lot of movement on the IQ Challenge in the last 24 hours. Boston Market was a Glory Hole Emporium. Where did Lix go to University? Wacko calling in to settle things with Ky. What's his net worth? Now Sweet Sweet Ky is on the line as we enter the 9:00 hour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

M-I-Z. It's game day and we'll take your predictions for tonight's game. Coming up on the papal conclave for the August Milagro Tequila Listener of the Month. Tim brought the heat on KSDK. If you're gonna hook up with another man present, make sure it's a stranger. Iggy is retiring from sleeping with listeners. Terry Weigel tales. Are the young more promiscuous now than 30 years ago? Lemay Bar Mitzvahs and Hoosier Quinceañeras. DraftKings Cal checking in. He's not happy he can't win listener rewards from out of town. Yesterday's Creator Classic. People are sending in their driving distance. Iggy's cozy cut. Not a lot of movement on the IQ Challenge in the last 24 hours. Boston Market was a Glory Hole Emporium. Where did Lix go to University? Wacko calling in to settle things with Ky. What's his net worth? Now Sweet Sweet Ky is on the line as we enter the 9:00 hour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One well-known fast-casual chain is suing another well-known fast-casual chain. McDonald's is working on a growth spree. And Subway continues to close restaurants.

Chocolate chip, amen. We have reviews for a Rock Band mic, cookies, body bounce body bumpers, fiji water, and Boston Market. For the segment, a deep dive in to Ayo Edibiri's Letterboxd. Want more party? Check it out at https://www.reviewpartydotcom.com/ !

How is California's new fast-food minimum wage impacting restaurant traffic? Boston Market's creditors are finding there's not much in the bank. And the president is cracking down on heat safety for workers.

Club reviews the Boston Market game, Double Game week predix, dancing T-Rex, Furtado/Hurtado relations, and bagged Milk. All this and less! Check links below:  Pursuit: @pursuityourself Hanif Abdurraqib: @NifMuhammad Bird: https://twitter.com/President_Birb https://ahernandezart.com/ Supporter Supply: https://www.supportersupply.co/  Code for free delivery:  upper90boyz (that's boys with a Z) Minnows: https://linktr.ee/minnows https://sirkbook.com/ https://nordecke.com/ Podcasts are available on Spotify, Apple Podcast, and all podcast apps. Now on YouTube, with video, and the faces!  Not seeing us somewhere? Email us Check us out on our Social Media Platforms and feel free to email us! We're totally literate and will 100% read anything you send, promise. Songs by Nick Tolford and Company https://ntac.bandcamp.com/track/boys-night-out SIGN UP TO BE PART OF THE NORDECKE!  Here - https://nordecke.com/ Become part of the Discord family:  https://discord.gg/crew96 Subscribe to our channel for more soccer content: -Email us:  podcast@upper90club.com -Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Upper90ClubPod -Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/upper90clubpod -Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/upper90clubpod/ -Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/upper-90-club/id1647214221 -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1xnYAtnQ8tThdn5JWX6c24 -Linktree: https://linktr.ee/upper90clubpod #VamosColumbus | #Crew96 | #Upper90Club | #R96TS

On today's edition of the Newsroom Temperature Check, Boston Market restaurants makes the decision to close more locations across the country leaving just one lone Illinois eatery in Melrose Park. In other restaurant news, Hooters closes more locations across the country including one in Springfield, IL, and more! The Newsroom Temperature Check is sponsored by American Weathermakers, Heating, Cooling, […]

Is any magazine as influential as Rolling Stone magazine? From the iconic Garth Brooks/Goo Goo Dolls issue (4/93) to the glibly unsuccessful attempts to help sway the outcomes of the ass-brutal 2004 and 2016 elections, hooray for Rolling Stone! (And, Caddyshack fans, hooray for the Douglasses!) We at the Untitled Beatles Podcast don't dare hold a Beatles-related opinion without first consulting what the culture-makers at RS want us to know. So we were thrilled - no, THRILLED - when RS (dba Rob Sheffield) released a list this spring of the 100 Best Beatles Solo Songs! In fact, we were so thrilled, we decided to start an old-school letter writing campaign all about the rankings - to each other! Thanks to the bravery and diligence of the U.S. Postal Service - which the previous president proudly tried to sabotage, because, uh, “Own the libs” I f'ing guess? - the New Box Tops (dba Tony & T.J.) read their pointed correspondences aloud. They have some questions, including:

Covino is away, so Rich & the crew have Tuesday fun! Now that the NBA season is over.. did the In-Season Tournament matter at all? Jay-Will accidentally breaks some news on TV & that leads to a round-table discussion on JJ Redick! What will his relationship be like with the players? They play a fun game of 'BOSTON MARKET WORKER OR BOSTON CELTICS PLAYER?!' Plus, two NFL story-lines, concerning Sam Darnold & Zach Wilson! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Season 3, Episode 7, If the voice sounds familiar it is because you have been hearing it on the radio since the early 1970s. AJ chats with Harvey Wharfield about a career that kept him in the Boston Market for over 50 years, up and down the dial on different rock 'n roll stations. No matter where he was, he was always a strong supporter of local music and was one of the first DJs to have a radio show that only focused on local talent. This was an amazing opportunity to connect with True Royalty ~ The Commander of the Rock N Roll Air-Force, someone who truly loved and helped shape the local Boston music scene. 

Fund conversations that matter: donate.accessmore.comTopic: Business and leadershipGuest: Scott has led large companies like Blockbuster and is now focusing on helping people in their faith. It's easy to be scared by new technology, but God is not surprised and He can help us use it for good. Scott Beck is the founder of Gloo. After scaling successful businesses like Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, and Boston Market, Scott turned his expertise to helping ministry leaders scale their impact through technology. He shares some of his fascinating business success stories and lessons, and how we can use technology for God's work. Check out Gloo here: https://www.gloo.us Pick up Matt's book "Truth Plus Love" here. Receive our free e-book "5 Keys to Find Fulfillment in God" at: Thinke.org If you love this show, please subscribe, share this episode with friends, and leave a nice review!

Markin out with High5Tom: Choppin it up 3.16 as H5T sat down to chop it up with good friends Mat and Adam from the Dorkside of the Ring Podcast. Another great conversation as we dig into Adam and Mat's pre podcast origins, and how things like your local video rental store was so vital to their wrassln fandom. And if nothin else tune to find out what Boston Market a Diorama and Miss Elizabeth had a big influence on.....well listen to see what we are talking aboat. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Like I stated on the podcast if you are not already listen to Dorkside of the Ring change that right now. They are on all podcast platforms but here is the Spotify link https://open.spotify.com/show/0Kukdt9XnlxxBt52gjirgx?si=d7b4bc59f2ba453e Follow DOTR podcast on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DorksideOTR Check out Mat and Adams Sweet shirts: https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=+Dorkside+of+the+Ring Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Check out the list of 8 New Leadership Books to Read. Plus, our guest is Scott Beck, longtime entrepreneur, co-founder and CEO of GLOO, past CEO of Einstein's Bagels and Boston Market, and President and COO of Blockbuster. Scott has almost 50 years of executive experience, starting off by working at Waste Management as a teenager, and multiple seasons of executive leadership. And a longtime investor and venture advisor, with notable companies like Ancestry and Home Advisors. We discuss leadership, why connection matters, lessons from Blockbuster, how to create a win/win, the power of family, and much more. Make sure to visit http://h3leadership.com to access the list and all the show notes. Thanks again to our partners for this episode: CONVOY OF HOPE – donate to the recent tornado relief work at http://convoyofhope.org/donate. Convoy is my trusted partner for delivering food and relief by responding to disasters in the US and all around the world. Right now, Convoy of Hope is still helping war victims in Ukraine, providing basic needs like food, hygiene supplies, medical supplies, blankets, bedding, clothing and more. Along with earthquake victims in Morocco. And the Maui Wildfires and recent tornadoes in the US. All through partnering with local Churches. Join me and please support their incredible work. To donate visit http://convoyofhope.org/donate. And OVERFLOW – change the way you give with Overflow. Visit http://overflow.co/h3. Overflow is a simple way for your congregation to give through Apple Pay, Google Pay, stock, debit, credit, and cryptocurrency. Plus discover Overflow Tap, which allows attendees to simply tap their phone on the chair in front of them, for giving, registering for events, and filling out connection cards. Discover effortless generosity with Overflow. Visit http://overflow.co/h3 for ONE YEAR FREE of Apple Pay and Google Pay when launching Overflow Tap. Visit http://overflow/co/h3 to learn more.

This week on the Extra Serving podcast, a product of Nation's Restaurant News, NRN editors Holly Petre, Sam Oches, and Alicia Kelso talked about the state of the financial market in the industry.While some brands are thriving, there are plenty of others that have been struggling. Many have either declared bankruptcy or are rumored to be. Tijuana Flats and Oberweis Dairy both declared Chapter 11 this week and the rumors behind Red Lobster are strong amid its new CEO. There's also the Boston Market saga.Next, the editors talked about the sale of Tropical Smoothie Cafe. Rumors began in December 2023 that the brand could be sold for $2 billion, and that's just what happened. Blackstone, the private equity company that was rumored to be buying Jersey Mike's, bought the smoothie chain for that exact amount on Wednesday. This is the first big sale of 2024; are we heading for a big year?The editors were initially going to talk about the Starbucks Supreme Court case but ran out of time. Here's a link to an episode of First Bite featuring Joanna Fantozzi, who detailed exactly what the case means for Starbucks and unions at large.This week's guest is Skye Anderson, president of global business services at McDonald's.

On this episode, Scott Beck shares his faith journey through starting and scaling successful businesses such as Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, and Boston Market to helping 65,000 church leaders use technology to engage their people and reach local communities.  Scott Beck is the co-founder and CEO of Gloo, a technology platform that releases the collective might of the faith ecosystem. After starting and scaling successful businesses including Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, and Boston Market, Scott turned his expertise to helping ministry leaders scale their impact through tech. Gloo helps 65,000 church leaders use technology to engage their people and reach local communities. Theology of Business is the show for marketplace Christians seeking to explore and apply God's will for business. If you want to learn more about how to do business for the glory of God and shape culture through discipling the business world in the ways of Jesus, this show is for you. | Entrepreneurship | Marketing | Nonprofit | Church | Author | Startups | Marketplace | Ministry | Business as Mission | Faith and Work | Faith | Success | Leadership | www.TheologyofBusiness.com 

On this episode, Scott Beck shares his faith journey through starting and scaling successful businesses such as Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, and Boston Market to helping 65,000 church leaders use technology to engage their people and reach local communities.  Scott Beck is the co-founder and CEO of Gloo, a technology platform that releases the collective might of the faith ecosystem. After starting and scaling successful businesses including Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, and Boston Market, Scott turned his expertise to helping ministry leaders scale their impact through tech. Gloo helps 65,000 church leaders use technology to engage their people and reach local communities. Theology of Business is the show for marketplace Christians seeking to explore and apply God's will for business. If you want to learn more about how to do business for the glory of God and shape culture through discipling the business world in the ways of Jesus, this show is for you. | Entrepreneurship | Marketing | Nonprofit | Church | Author | Startups | Marketplace | Ministry | Business as Mission | Faith and Work | Faith | Success | Leadership | www.TheologyofBusiness.com 

On this episode, Scott Beck shares his faith journey through starting and scaling successful businesses such as Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, and Boston Market to helping 65,000 church leaders use technology to engage their people and reach local communities.  Scott Beck is the co-founder and CEO of Gloo, a technology platform that releases the collective might of the faith ecosystem. After starting and scaling successful businesses including Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, and Boston Market, Scott turned his expertise to helping ministry leaders scale their impact through tech. Gloo helps 65,000 church leaders use technology to engage their people and reach local communities. Theology of Business is the show for marketplace Christians seeking to explore and apply God's will for business. If you want to learn more about how to do business for the glory of God and shape culture through discipling the business world in the ways of Jesus, this show is for you. | Entrepreneurship | Marketing | Nonprofit | Church | Author | Startups | Marketplace | Ministry | Business as Mission | Faith and Work | Faith | Success | Leadership | www.TheologyofBusiness.com 

Craig, Rio and Seth get into racism, Boston Market, Prison Hacks, Jewish Food, How often Lebron has sex and more!! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's conversation is about creating an atmosphere for success in nonprofits and for-profit organizations.  Join Dave and Carly as they welcome guest Tom Beck. Tom has more than thirty years of leadership experience. His operational experience ranges from innovating in the video rental business to opening one of the first three Blockbuster Stores in the Midwest to building the Boston Market and Einstein Bagels franchises.  Tom now serves with Compassion International as Chief People and Culture Officer, helping to guide the international charity as they empower local churches to provide individualized and holistic care to children in poverty so they are free to learn, grow, play, and dream. Discussion Topics: Hire people smarter than yourself. Don't be your own limiting constraint. How non-profits can learn from large companies. Resources to help you grow your perspective on people and culture. Tom's decades of experience in leadership at Blockbuster, Boston Chicken, Einstein Bagel, and Compassion International. We hope you enjoy our conversation with Tom Beck! You can learn more about Compassion International at www.compassion.com and connect with Tom at www.linkedin.com/in/tom-beck-28909229.  Season Four of the Purpose & Profit Podcast is brought to you by: MASTERWORKS At Masterworks, their mission is to help you accomplish yours. They are a full-service agency for Christian organizations. Their emphasis on both mission & mastery makes us leading experts in moving hearts & minds to act. Masterworks has over 30 years of experience serving organizations through strategy, direct mail, digital, analysis, creative, & technology. Learn more about Masterworks at www.masterworks.agency. VIRTUOUS Virtuous is a software company committed to helping nonprofits grow generosity. Virtuous believes that generosity has the power to create profound change in the world and in the heart of the giver. With that in mind, it's their mission to move the needle on global generosity by helping nonprofits better connect with and inspire their givers. Learn more about Virtuous at ⁠www.virtuous.org⁠ and download your free Nonprofit CRM Checklist at ⁠www.virtuous.org/checklist⁠.  IMAGO CONSULTING Imago Consulting is an advisory firm that helps nonprofits and businesses grow through innovation. Innovation is the lifeblood of any growing organization. Imago publishes a weekly trends report called The Wave Report – learn more at www.imago.consulting and subscribe at www.imago.consulting/wavereport. Special thanks to editor and sound engineer Barry R. Hill and producer Jenna Owens.

WELCOME BACK to the BRUNCH BREAKDOWN Podcast! On #TheMenu: R.I.P. OJ Simpson, and Boston Market? All the Food at The Masters. No Doubt and other Bands we want Reunions from ASAP. PLUS Drake, Kendrick, New Music, Beer, and more! Check out the SOUNDS OF BRUNCH Playlist on Spotify! WATCH Full Episodes of the @BrunchBreakdown Podcast on YouTube & Facebook. LISTEN on AMAZON, Audible, Spotify, Apple, and Everywhere You Get Your Podcasts. FOLLOW us on X, Threads, Triller, Instagram, TikTok, and GoodPods!

Tim sits down with comedian Mike Recine about Lizzo calling it quits, the unreality of online, the border, Gen-Z doing trade jobs, old-fashioned cooking, call centers and Boston Market. American Royalty Tour

Jenn and Eddie remeber the good ol' days of Boston Market and Blockbuster Video. Jenn sleeps with a bra while Eddie wears a Hockey Jersey.  Plus what happens when "Care Bears" is actually "Nothign But Trouble"?  Also play along wiith Florida Man Friday!

Join Jordan, Commish, Pitt Girl, and Beth, along with VP of Podcast Production Arthur. We talk about the Sickos Committee April Fools Accord, a discovering a new weird Pitt Panther, tell you again to not to read the comments on any Iowa/LSU WBB posts, NIT FINAL LIVE (NOW TWO DAYS OLD) UPDATES, the Renegade Dog, then we get to YOUR FOOD HOT TAKES, peanut butter everywhere, grape tacos, unheard of bold flavors, Boston Market? and much much more!!

SERIES 2 EPISODE 151: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:44) SPECIAL COMMENT: Trump has now  threatened to federalize state and local police. His persecution of minorities starting with Latinos and moving on to blacks and middle easterners and when he runs out, Jews, will be conducted at least in part, by cops. To make THAT possible, Trump will have to take over state and local police. He promised to do as much in a speech at Grand Rapids yesterday.  And he again promised to immunize them against prosecution.  The cops – the cops in your town – on your street – will be answerable to no one but Trump. No governor, no mayor, no chief, no judge. By putting it in these terms, Trump has shown you the America he intends to sentence us to, next January 20th. There are no laws. There are no governors. There are no mayors. There are no local governments. There is only him. He has the military, he will use it on the streets against protestors; he may declare a State of Insurrection during his inaugural address, thus the protestors could be anybody – you, me, a Democratic Speaker of the House, Joe Biden, a news reporter he doesn't like, judges who try to stop him. He will usurp the federal government and replace it with those personally loyal to him. And the first show of force will be the purge of minorities and if you belong to any minority group and spoiler alert we ALL belong to SOME minority group – you may THINK you are here legally, but if your local cop – your local TRUMP Cop, federalized by Trump, indemnified by Trump, beholden by Trump – if your local cop says no, he thinks you're here illegally – guess where you're going? To Trump Camp. A JUDGE is going to stop you? A JUDGE Trump appointed? A JUDGE in a red state? A JUDGE Trump didn't appoint who knows that if he crosses Trump HE will be the next to go Trump Camp and die there – fast, or slow? And it all starts with the cops. This nation – especially its Republicans and MAGAs and fascists and racists – is riddled with snitches and fascists and sadists. And a lot of them just happen to be cops. And then there are lots of people who you would now bet your life on being there to defend you if they dragged you away and said “new rule: your grandmother can't prove her immigration here was documented? That means YOU are no longer a citizen” – surprise. They will first worry about whether THEIR grandmother can prove it. Or if this cop knows THAT unfortunate fact about them, or their friend, or their cousin, or… or… or… It all starts with the cops 700,000 of them in 18,000 state and city units. And Trump just said he would federalize the cops. They shoot somebody? They can't be arrested. They can't be sued. They can't be stopped. And for this, they have only one man to thank. Promising death and destruction and making a stochastic assassination threat against President Biden is one kind of thing. This – this is pure dictatorship B-Block (26:54) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: Even The Daily Caller has retracted, killed, and apologized for this nonsense that Biden ordered religious markings removed from White House Easter eggs. Speaker Mike Johnson? He has NOT retracted nor apologized, because he's a theocratic fascist. Fox hires a Disinformation/Misinformation specialist (for or against) and Tulsi Gabbard says she turned down RFK Jr's overtures. No! To be his VP! (Well I did too. I mean, why not, if Gabbard can say this, then you and I can also claim this is true) C-Block (36:20) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: How much would they have to pay you to fall off a cliff? A small one? What if it's a small cliff and you don't get seriously hurt although you'll be sore for a month? For me, the answer turned out to be like $250,000 up front. And later another $150,000. The saga of cliff diving in California. Unintentional cliff diving.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Skin gets nostalgic as the once-booming Boston Market has dwindled.

Thom welcomes Scott Beck, co-founder and CEO of Gloo, a technology platform that releases the collective might of the faith ecosystem. After starting and scaling successful businesses including Blockbuster Video, Einstein's Bagel, Boston Market, and Angie's List (now Angi), Scott turned his expertise to helping ministry leaders scale their impact through tech. Gloo helps 60,000 church leaders in using tech to engage their people and reach local communities. The post Entrepreneurship, Innovation, and Overcoming Failure: An Interview with Scott Beck appeared first on Church Answers.

What is Corner Bakery doing to right its ship? This week's episode of the Restaurant Business podcast A Deeper Dive features Chris Dharod, the CEO of Corner Bakery. Dharod is with SSCP Management, a franchisee of Applebee's and Sonic and owner of Cici's Pizza and Roy's. The company bought Corner Bakery out of bankruptcy last year. We had him on the podcast to talk about Corner Bakery and chat about the way in which the acquisition was made. SSCP acquired the brand by buying the debt on the secondary market and then using that to take over the company out of bankruptcy, a process some folks call loan to own. Dharod talks about that process, its risks and what SSCP looks for in its investments, as well as how it turns them around, which it has done with Cici's. Corner Bakery is a particularly difficult process. The brand was owned by the same owner as Boston Market and was having many of the same problems. It didn't pay many of its bills and was burdened by lawsuits and serious issues. We talk about what the brand is doing to fix all that, what kind of people it brought in and what kind of sales the brand is generating now. We're talking Corner Bakery on A Deeper Dive so please check it out.

For Gov. J.B. Pritzker, the DNC could be a dress rehearsal for a presidential run. Crain's politics reporter Leigh Giangreco discusses with host Amy Guth.Plus: Revised Bally's site plan gets green light from City Hall, treasurer's office lowers late fees for property taxes, Lurie confirms network breached by "known criminal threat actor," US Foods wins lawsuit against Boston Market and Northwestern eyes football games at Wrigley, Guaranteed Rate and Soldier Field.Crain's Daily Gist listeners can get 20% off a one-year Crain's Chicago Business digital subscription by visiting chicagobusiness.com/gist and using code “GIST” at checkout.

SEASON 2 EPISODE 89: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:44) SPECIAL COMMENT:  The Republican Party, a wholly owned subsidiary of Vladimir Putin and the government of Russia, faced - to paraphrase Churchill - the bleak choice between war and shame. It has chosen shame. And it will get war thrown in, a little later. This, simply, is true: THE UNITED STATES is not helping UKRAINE… UKRAINE is helping the United States. It is fighting OUR war: at the cost of ITS lives, at the cost of ITS territory, at the cost of the existence through which its people must suffer. To protect US from Russia. And the Republicans are sending him home to, in all probability, watch his nation and his people die, because the Republicans are no longer connected, in any way, to reality. ALL issues are political machinations. ALL crises are opportunities. ALL good causes are to be held hostage so that fascism in America can take away a little more freedom and even more morality from the nation the Republican Party has raped. Once again, to re-purpose the infamous George W. Bush phrase – fighting them over there, so we don't have to fight them over HERE. THEY are the Russians and THEIR fascist madman's dreams are as non-secret as ours is. He wants to reestablish the size and composition of the Soviet Union. That's all of Ukraine. Estonia. Georgia. Belarus, Latvia, half a dozen more. That's control-by-proxy of what is now Czechia and Slovakia, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Albania, Poland, and half of Germany. Putin's response? The Russians have already carpet-bombed Kiev this morning. And the Republican Party held THE DOOR OPEN FOR THEM, just as it tried to hold the door open for Adolf Hitler to subsume Europe 85 years ago. It will let him in and blame the Democrats about the Mexican border because the Republicans and the Republicans alone see a connection between a foreign dictator trying to absorb our allies and re-start the full-scale cold war, and immigration which the Republicans don't actually want to SOLVE anyway because the point of the quote “border crisis” is to make sure there always IS a border crisis so the Republicans can scare their voters with it. And yet when Joe Biden says fine, we can couple these unrelated issues, let's resolve everything, the Republicans say no. And we're going on vacation. And Mike Johnson will need to see a detailed play script on exactly how Volodomir Zelensky is going to win and you think, man would I like to see Mike Johnson at the Ukrainian front and get to watch him break all land speed records while running away. PLUS: A Democratic Congressman finally nails down what the Republicans want to impeach Biden FOR. "High crimes and misdemeanors." But what EVENT? "That's why we're having an inquiry." But which ACT? "I don't have time to go into details." They're going to charge him with being WOKE. Or with illegally fathering Hunter Biden. Hell, that idiot Giuliani worked Hunter Biden into his latest paranoid theory about his trial for slandering the two Georgia Election Workers.   B-Block (22:45) IN SPORTS: It's the greatest bad clip of sports play-by-play ever. The punch line is, we don't know the NAME of the hockey announcer, just that he describes a goal with "Look at that, look at this look at that." Speaking of bad, Tony Romo called Taylor Swift WHAT? (26:50) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: The climate change conference that doesn't call for an end to fossil fuels; Morning Joe confuses everybody (how is this news?) and your own piece of the suit Trump was wearing when they arrested him - for only $4653. As the joke goes, good news for Trump's finances. There's a lot of fabric when you wear an XXXXXL C-Block (42:00) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: We are hovering near the 27th anniversary of the day I fell off a cliff shooting a Boston Market TV commercial. "Eat something," I said. And then - I did.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How to manifest future aspirations in the present? Brad and Lesley discuss how cultivating the mindset and habits of your ideal self can lead to significant results. The conversation is replete with actionable advice, personal experiences, and thought-stirring observations. Discover how "being it before you see it" can transform your life and help you overcome obstacles on your journey towards success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How your purpose is bigger than what you do for a living.Importance of creating a financial runway during role transitions.The challenge of separating your identity from your job title to find a more expansive purpose.Alternative ways to introduce yourself that don't solely rely on your job title.Episode References/Links:Black Friday, Cyber Monday (BFCM) SaleWinter TourChat with us!Tag Candy Motzek on FacebookCandy Motzek's website  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  If you actually think about this, like, who you want to be in the future, if you were that person now with all the things you still have to do, how would that person handle those things? Yeah, this is how Be It Till You See It came about. Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:54  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Interview Recap where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig into the influential convo I had with Candy Motzek in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, go ahead and listen to it and then come back and listen to this one or listen to this one and then listen to that one. I just found out from the book club and agency that a lot of them just listen to the book club meeting to decide if they're gonna read the book. And I was like, okay, well, we need at leastBrad Crowell 1:19  That's like the Cliffs Notes. Lesley Logan 1:20  Yeah, I said, but we need at least two people every month to read the book to host the book club. So you guys have to alternate on this weird plan you have. Anyways, I really enjoyed Candy is really funny. I was actually listening to the pre of the interview. And she was like, hey, before we continue, can I just take a screenshot of us so I can post it and I was like, oh, you totally can. It was so fun. And also, I was like, okay, if you're gonna do Be It Action Items, I always tell people just so you guys know, like, just, you know, breaking the third wall, I tell them do not say get to know yourself or journal for a Be It Action, because what the fuck is that anyways? And so I was like, um, you know, because we, we email them this, but some people don't read. So I like say it. Brad Crowell 2:08  Pretty sure it's the fourth wall. Lesley Logan 2:09  It's the fourth wall. Third wall. It's a wall. We broke through the wall. And so I'm breaking to the wall. So um, so I said, so I was telling her what she's been emailed because sometimes people just don't read. And she's given me a big red X. And I was like, well, I'm not rude. But correct, you'll have to come up with something else. So anyways, her Be It Actions are awesome. They're actually, they're. This is what I'm loving our guests that I'm getting because you guys keep listening to this podcast are bigger and better every single time. And they really do take podcasting seriously. And so thank you.Brad Crowell 2:46  Well, she's a podcast host herself. And so she's used to talk, too. Really great at it.Lesley Logan 2:48  Yeah, they always make the best guest. But at any rate, like she's awesome. And it's really over. So we'll get it done in a second. But for now, if you're listening to this today, and you live in the States, Happy Thanksgiving. Brad Crowell 2:53  Happy Thanksgiving! Lesley Logan 2:54  And if you don't live in the States, happy Day Before Black Friday, because what I have found out is it's Black Friday everywhere, even though it's not Thanksgiving everywhere, and however you feel about Thanksgiving. I know for a lot of people in the US they're doing family friends, food, a lot of food. There's so much food and also can we just be honest, most of the food for Thanksgiving is not exciting, except for the sweet potatoes. So good. Do not put marshmallows on that shit.Brad Crowell 3:28  It's a very creative food. Lesley Logan 3:29  There's creative food. Brad Crowell 3:30  And then in the States, football. Football, football, football.Lesley Logan 3:33  Football. There's lots of football. There's a big turkey on the football field that somehow has multiple legs. I don't understand that. And to be honest, I actually don't like any Thanksgiving food. So we go to a restaurant. Brad Crowell 3:45  I love mashed potatoes. Lesley Logan 3:47  Well, but you can get, you can make mashed potatoes on any day. You just, I, stuffing, I never understood stuffing. Brad Crowell 3:54  That's one of my favorites. Lesley Logan 3:55  Oh, well. I'm gluten, dairy-free. So I'm fucked. Cranberry? I grew up poor so it was justBrad Crowell 3:55  Not my favorite.Lesley Logan 3:56  Do you know what's really funny? Brad Crowell 3:58  The Cranberry can. Lesley Logan 4:03  The can because it's got the lines. Yeah. And also also can I tell, can I just tell you really quickly my favorite Thanksgiving story? Okay, so my grandmother, she's, none of my grandparents are around anymore, but my mom's parents don't cook okay. They do not cook and we went to their house for Thanksgiving one year I don't know why they won but they ordered it from Raley's. Raley's is kind of like a Ralph's or a Smith's or what do you call on the East Coast? Brad Crowell 4:04  Acne. Lesley Logan 4:04  Acne. This is a regular grocery store but you can pre-order like a pre-made Thanksgiving, think Boston Market which doesn't exist anymore either. But you can pre-order, you go I want a Turkey this size. No. Pretty sure. Well, Keith Olbermann did the commercial and I pretty sure like he got paid a lot and then they like anyways, that's another story. But let me tell this story. This is really funny. So picture, like the wooden table that's an oval with a leaf was put in to like make enough room and then the grocery-ordered-you-reheat-the-food kind of Thanksgiving meal, okay, and we're all sitting around the table and my grandmother bought. What's the sparkling apple cider? Do you know what I mean? The sparkling apple cider because like, oh for the kids, Martinelli's, Martinelli's sparkling apple cider or apple juice. And then there's obviously like champagne or wine for the adults. But anyways, she bought those like plastic flutes that you like put together or you put the flute in the bottom of the thing. Sure. Okay. So you put that on the table and then but they're cheap because poor right so she, they're pouring that apple ciderBrad Crowell 5:41  But they're fancy.Lesley Logan 5:40  It looks fancy. Let me just say it. Okay, so they're pouring out (inaudible) into the flutes, right, with these plastic flutes. And then of course, everyone is like reaching over the table to pass things around. You're just knocking apple cider flutes around, and they're just like, falling into the turkey. The turkey's like floating and it's like flooding. Everyone was laughing and my grandma was like, this is a fucking waste of money, my grandpa's pissed, my mom is laughing so hard, just like get up here. It's a fucking hilarious thing. It's my best memory. And then from then on out, we went back to my dad's side of the family for Thanksgiving, and we invited my mom's parents over and I was so disappointed because my dad's parents were so serious.Brad Crowell 6:33  Well, I won over the whole family by cooking your dad's mom's artichoke casserole. Surprise. Nobody knew that you had the recipe.Lesley Logan 6:45  I know. They want it badly. Yeah. And we should just give it to them.Brad Crowell 6:49  But I cooked it. We're like, oh my gosh, this tastes like grandma. Because we eat grandma.Lesley Logan 6:56  What if for this Thanksgiving we just like mail them the recipe and like, you know what I mean? Like Merry Christmas. We're not coming. Anyways, okay, so what does this mean? It means Black Friday, Cyber Monday, it means there are a bunch of sales happening on onlinepilatesclasses.com and profitablepilates.com. And you want to go if you're not a member, there's an awesome opportunity to be a member for OPC for super not a lot of money. Then also at Profitable Pilates, like discounts on courses and Brad's upcoming What Your Website Needs webinar. Guys, whether you're gonna make it yourself, it's not live this weekend, you guys, it's just the sale is this weekend, it's live.Brad Crowell 7:36  December 3rd.Lesley Logan 7:37  So the deal is really inexpensive and you are going to be able to have confidence in knowing what your website should have. So you can do what you go through your website and make sure you have all the things he's saying. Or if you're gonna make it yourself, you know what to do. Or if you're gonna hire someone, you won't get fucked over. So that's really awesome. And mat flashcards are on sale, a whole bunch of good stuff. So super, super great. Grab the mat flashcards for all of your friends. Do it, do it. It's there. This is the best deal they're going to be. Yes. Okay, before we get on with Candy, Brad, do we have an audience question to respond to?Brad Crowell 8:07  Oh, yes, we do. And this week's question is, what are great presents for my clients? We get this every year.Lesley Logan 8:18  Every year, multiple times, sometimes earlier, sometimes like in August, people are asking this question. So um, so I've had this question three different times, in three different ways. Some people are like, I want a non fitness gift for my clients. Some people are like, I want like a, an inexpensive gift for my clients. And some are like, do I have to get a gift for my clients, I just want to say whether, you don't have to be a Pilates teacher for this to apply to you. You actually don't have to give anyone anything. Brad Crowell 8:44  You do not. Lesley Logan 8:45  Ever. Some people's love languages are gifts. And in some cultures, then when they give gifts, or when they receive gifts, they write a list because then they return them back. Like for example, in Cambodia, when you're invited to a wedding, they will literally write down and keep a log, Brad and Lesley gave $50. And then when you when we invite them to something they give $50. So it's exactly reciprocal, okay, and everything is cash there. No one's buying dishes for anybody, they just give money. Okay? So depends on the culture where you're listening. So make sure this like you think about that. But for when it comes to if you're a studio owner, so to speak to like in that way, but like if you are a service-based industry person, getting your clients gifts is really thoughtful, but it's not something you can always do every single year. And they're not expecting it from you. They literally do not come to you for massages, hair care, Pilates, yoga, babysitting, none of that to receive a gift from you at the end of the year. If you got them a handwritten card that said, oh my gosh, I love how 9 a.m. on Sundays feels because of you. That is going to be so thoughtful. You have no idea. If you want it to instead one of Jamie Hayden in Milwaukee, her studio adopts a family every Christmas, they literally she, there's a charity that she works with, and they adopt a family. And each client actually buys a gift for the family rather than like giving her gifts or like her giving them gifts. And that's really cool. So I just want to like take the pressure off that you do not have to like get anyone gifts. If you want to give your clients gifts, may I suggest that it's something fun that you can kind of make a tradition. For example, one of my clients in LA, Geeta, every year she and her daughters get together and they make a trail mix of sorts called trail mix or muesli of sorts. And they make it they like have she they go to the store, they buy all the ingredients, they, they have to bake the oatmeal in a certain way, they have certain seasonings, they put on it, and they put it in these little mason jars, the same kind of jars every single year, I have three of these jars now. And like it kind of became like, I need a fourth and then COVID. But like, they make it every year. And it's her gift to give all the people in her life that are not close family. And it's the same gift every year. And let me just tell you, it's fucking delicious. I looked forward to every year and she could make it. So think about something you could do like that. That is thoughtful, thoughtful. You're you put some labor and love into it. The margins are not expensive, we're talking like the cost of the jar is about $1. And then the cost of the products is like when you break it up against 100 people like it's really nominal. And so she could do that every year for people and I looked forward to it every year and the people in her life did. And so I would do that.Brad Crowell 11:39  Ironically, that is her giving gifts to you, but, yes.Lesley Logan 11:42  I know but well I don't cook. Anyways, I'm just saying it was her given gift to me.Brad Crowell 11:49  Or you could also like support a local business. And give maybe like a $25 gift card to a lunch spot that they could use near your studio, or something.Lesley Logan 12:00  $25 is a lot. If you have 10 clients, that's a lot of money. So, no. What you can also, I just want to say your clients do not come to you for the money or anything.Brad Crowell 12:11  They don't come to you for the money. Lesley Logan 12:12  So what you can do is say, hey, this month 10% of every session is going to this charity, this is my Christmas gift, right? Or you can make it community-based is my point, I think it's more impactful. And people remember it more than you giving them a pair of fucking socks. I like that idea. Actually, I love toe socks, and you should use our code. They are a sponsor of the show. But it's by the way, the code is Lesley. Spell it right. But you, your clients will buy those from you. You don't have to give them to them. They, they're, they really do love coming to you and they want you to stay in business. So please don't break your bank to do this. And don't stress about it. Anyways, the point is the great presents for clients are often the ones that actually bring the community together and do not cost a lot of money and are thoughtful and so make them something, bake them something or or you know, do something for the community in their honor. That's my suggestion. But you know, if you want to go crazy and stress yourself out, by all means it's the holiday season as far.Brad Crowell 13:19  Only those two choices.Lesley Logan 13:23  That's right, you've only those two choices (inaudible).Brad Crowell 13:27  Hey, I'm so totally just realized we missed a major announcement.Lesley Logan 13:33  Major, so big, because it's like literally two weeks away.Brad Crowell 13:37  Lesley and I are going to be driving around the country. Lesley Logan 13:40  7000 miles.Brad Crowell 13:41   70, 70, 70 like 7000 miles. Lesley Logan 13:45  We're bringing the dogs.Brad Crowell 13:47  We're looking at over 20 locations. Lesley Logan 13:50  Yes. So we're gonna be a city near you, and because we're driving 7000 miles, there's no reason why you can't drive 100 miles. Brad Crowell 13:57  That's true. Lesley Logan 13:57  I'm just saying.Brad Crowell 13:58  Yeah, we'd love to see you come hang out go to opc.me/tourLesley Logan 14:02  We want to be the excuse to get you away from the crazy chaos or bring the crazy chaos to us and let me handle it for an hour. Brad Crowell 14:09  Yeah. That could happen to you could bring your crazy chaos to this class.Lesley Logan 14:14  People do that. Every tour they're like, I'm bringing my family so opc.me/tour. You don't want to miss this winter tour is amazing. And the cities we go to change every year. So if you're like, oh my gosh, I'll go next year. We might not be coming your city next year. That's just how it is. Brad Crowell 14:30  That's true. Okay, now let's talk about Candy Motzek. Candy is a business coach and a podcast host dedicated to helping struggling coaches thrive in pursuing their passion while attracting clients and generous income.Lesley Logan 14:46  Okay, so I'm gonna jump in because I really loved there's a couple things first of all, she talked about how like you would never go to a therapist who doesn't have a therapist. You would never go to Pilates teacher withour a Pilates teacher. Brad Crowell 14:57  You'd never go to a doctor who doesn't go to the doctor. (inaudible) Lesley Logan 15:01  And then she is a coach for coaches. So I love that. But I really like she talked about, like, really getting into like, what is your purpose and it's actually really hilarious because in the agency meeting today that when we were they were recording this, I was talking about purpose. And I said your purpose isn't like, this is, I coach Pilates instructors, right, your purpose isn't Pilates, I'm just gonna like if you listen to this, and you teach Pilates or you teach yoga or whatever, your purpose is not actually the thing that you currently do for a living. Your purpose is bigger than that. My vehicle happens to be Pilates right now. But if I were to not teach Pilates, don't freak out. I'm not saying I'm gonna quit tomorrow. But if I would not do that, I would still have that purpose. And so she said, you need to contemplate the big question, what is my purpose, she says, Your purpose wants us as much as we want it. And she said, be bold enough to see what's right in front of you. And a lot of times people think that their purpose is going to hit them, like she said, like a lightning bolt from thunder from heaven is just gonna hit you and go, here is your purpose. And it's not going to be like that, but it's in you. And oftentimes, we don't want to say it out loud, because we don't feel like we're enough for it. Or we don't think it's big enough. Like, I remember when we did this with Agency members a couple years ago, and someone's like, Okay, if I just wanna help people not be in pain, I'm like, That's a fucking huge purpose. Pain keeps people from living a whole life. So sometimes I think we play the purpose down like, oh, that's not enough. I'm not saving the world, I'm not stopping climate change. It's like, hold on, if what you do takes the person out of pain, and that person can cure cancer, that's pretty fucking awesome. So like, your purpose is always bigger than what it is. And we need to stop playing small and oftentimes it's right in front of you, and in you, and you're scared to say it, or you're embarrassed to say it, or you think, oh, my God, people are gonna think I'm good enough to say it, and you need to be brave enough and bold enough to see it it's right in front of you. Yeah, I love it. Brad Crowell 17:08  Well, when we were when I was listening through, she started to talk about transition out of corporate and into coaching. And so, of course, that attracted me because that's one of the things that we like to work with people on in our coaching program, too. And she started, she said, she had a couple of like, just obvious, straightforward tips. One of them was, could you live on half of your salary? Right? So if you're making 10,000 a month, can you live on five, if you're making 5000 a month getting more than two and a half? You know, and, and then we always say, make a runway. So you knowLesley Logan 17:08  Build a runway.Brad Crowell 17:12  Put six months of money aside, if you're gonna make this kind of a transition so that you know that you have six months to Lesley Logan 18:01  Isn't that what's so cool, though, if you can live off half, then six months, you've created a runway living off half. Yeah. So that's one year we've to live on half the income, but allows you to transition and do the thing that you've been wanting to do in one year, in one year. Like, that's crazy. That's so much faster than you trying to save.Brad Crowell 18:21  If you want your life completely changed then you could have, you would have six months of practice living on half, and then six months living on that half. So the fear of like money, you know, but still will light a fire under your ass when you finally do pull the chute. But you'll be like, I know, I can do it.Lesley Logan 18:40  Yeah, but the second six months, you are doing the thing you've been wanting to do. So like you have and you're only focused on that, like, woah. Big time amazingness.Brad Crowell 18:49  Yeah. But she said despite the financial prep, she still said it was emotionally terrifying. She spent a long time in corporate, she said that one of the most challenging things was the attachment or association that we have with the title of our old role. Right? Like, are you the general manager? Are you the something whatever? Are you the AGM? Are you, you know, basically what, what we have adopted in our culture in our society is that we associate who we are with the title that we've been given, right, and it's become our identity. And so when you take away that title, who am I? Who am I now, am I you know, like, it actually suddenly can become like a confidence shaker, because you're like, well, I can't introduce myself anymore as the whatever, you know, so how do I do that? Are people going to take me seriously? You know, like it you know, She said that she had tied her identity, like she had tied herself to her title, her identity to her title and that was her measure of success.Lesley Logan 20:11  Well, I mean, I wrestled with this so much, because when I was a manager at Fred Segal, let me just say, if I went into any retail store anywhere in L.A., Orange County, New York, and I'll be shopping and they're like, oh, you know, can I help you? Like, oh, I'm just looking around, you know, don't worry, I'm in sale. I'm gonna reach out to you, you can take on a customer if you need to. Oh, where do you work? I'm like, Oh, I run a jewelry store at Fred Segal. People knew that. And they're like, you run a store at Fred Segal. I'm like, Oh, I do. So my store you guys was not even 50 square feet. I'm just going to tell you right now. It was a counter. But I did a million dollars in a counter. But I didn't make a million. I'm gonna say I sold a million dollars. Yeah. Um, but I, when I was leaving that there was something like, I'm leaving that to be a Pilates instructor? And I remember my clients thinking, oh, my God, my clients who I sell the stuff to, if I tell them I'm gonna be a Pilates instructor what were they gonna think of me? Yes. Can I just tell you right now? When I told them I was like, leaving to be a Pilates instructor, they're like, oh, oh, can I take a session from you? And I was like, yeah, you can, you totally can. Yes, you can. Oh, my God. Yes, you can. So like, it's really funny the story we tell ourselves because it's a lot of people A. may not even know what the fuck of the title means. It's like, not impressive to them at all. And B. your new thing might actually be so cool. And they're also often a lot of people are like, would are like jealous that you're making a leap like that, because they're like, you're following your dreams. And they they feel stuck to their title.Brad Crowell 21:44  My personal experience with that?Lesley Logan 21:46  Yeah, you're just gonna stop in the middle of a sentence right there? Brad Crowell 21:52  Yeah. My personal experience with that is with my band. When I first moved to Los Angeles, my I was I literally moved across the country to be in a band. And we were called The Magnificent Ambersons. And when that bandLesley Logan 22:14  The Magnificent Andersons. Brad Crowell 22:16  Ambersons. Come on, get it right.Lesley Logan 22:17  Oh, even harder. Brad Crowell 22:18  Yeah, hello. Lesley Logan 22:19  Oh, my God, you guys are like the O'Needers. I wonder.Brad Crowell 22:24  TMA. The Magnificent Ambersons. When that band stopped, I, I didn't know. I didn't know who I was. I didn't know how to function. I didn't know how to introduce myself. I didn't know why I was in L.A. anymore. I didn't know. I was like, pissed, I was really upset. And it really rocked me really rocked me, because I had completely identified who I thought I was with this thing, this band. And when the band was done, suddenly that, did that mean, Brad was done? Like, what do I do now? Do I go home? You know, like, it was a really interesting time. And so I totally relate to what she said, about having no title suddenly, you know, like, what does that mean? You know, so, but I think I'm sure that we also do that in the Pilates world. And who are you? Oh, I'm a Pilates teacher. You know, but what if you didn't associate yourself with your job? Didn't associate yourself with your title of your thing? Like, what would that look like? Could you do that? How do you introduce yourself today? Without talking about that? You know, hey, I'm Brad. You know, I live in Vegas, you know, or I'm Brad and I grow cactus. Or I'm Brad and I like to take long drives on the highway.Lesley Logan 23:53  I think we like I think I might be like, I'm Lesley and I own 34 chairs. Um,Brad Crowell 24:00  We literally do. She has a problem. Lesley Logan 24:03  Do you guys want to see a picture of every chair? Because I will take that. So, but I do understand this because the actual reality is like when I'm on a plane traveling to Poland, or to Korea, and people like, oh, what are you going for? And I'm like, oh, go for work. What do you do? I'm like, it's, it's not gonna make any sense. I teach Pilates and they're like, aren't there Pilates instructors in Poland? I'm like, yep, that's precisely the point. But like, it also doesn't even make sense. And so I mean, it can be a great conversation starter for me, which helps people leave me and leads people to onlinepilatesclasses.com. But like, I am often curious about, like, how can I introduce myself in a way that like, doesn't leave people with the, let me just cook my head I don't understand. So I'm gonna say I'm a Ghostbuster at some point, like it's I do think we need to figure out a way to introduce ourselves that does not have a title identified to it. Because even for people who don't work like an actual job because like stay-at-home moms, you are working the fucking hardest job. They also have the same problem like, Oh, I'm a stay-at-home mom. No, you are a mom. You like, you know what I mean? And I think we have to, I don't know, the whole Western culture needs a whole new do over on like, what it is that we do? Brad Crowell 25:22  Well, I think (inaudible) that's the exact word. Do. Because it's like, I can't remember. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 25:32  We're doing this with Brad Bijak. Bijak. We need to have him on the Pod. Put it down. Most people wait until they have. So they can do the thing and be the thing and he's like, no, you have to (inaudible) be do have like, be the thing, be it, do till you have seen it. I was like, he's doing my podcast.Brad Crowell 25:57  But the, hidden laughs over here, but. Lesley Logan 26:02  After hours, guys, so sorry about this episode.Brad Crowell 26:06  But the point is, we introduce ourselves as the "do". That's what we do. But we are the "be".Lesley Logan 26:14  But we are the "be". So actually, maybe just introduce yourself as the person you want to be in the room. In fact, I am recalling an episode of a podcast from 10 years ago, where this guy was unemployed. And he introduced himself to Arianna Huffington as the person he wanted to be, and he fucking landed a job. Nice. I mean, crazy. And I was like, okay, so part of that seems a little narcissistic and maybe crazy. But what if you, like just introduce yourself as like the like, instead of being I'm the person who is the accounting, if you want to be the person who's like a number one Etsy seller, oh, I have an Etsy shop. Right? And like the be it isBrad Crowell 27:03  But still that's a that's a do.Lesley Logan 27:06  Um, what's what you want to be? So you're saying it before it's ready, but okay. I see what you're saying. Um, well, then if you are the sticker shop girl, then you are someone who creates happiness wherever you leave people. And people go, what is that? Oh, I make stickers. And people put stickers everywhere. Like, yeah, she's,Brad Crowell 27:27  I think we need to workshop this I like, I see what your point is. And I think that's valid. Because it's It's definitely like how she's serving people in that in that in that response. But yeah, we tend to default to something that we're proud of, which, you know, is like, you know, the art of bragging. But but it also tends to beLesley Logan 27:48  There's a book on that. It's called The Art of Bragging.Brad Crowell 27:50  I know. That's and so it also tends to be you know, our title, so.Lesley Logan 27:59  Well, yeah, I think well, everyone, send us your workshop on this. What is your be? And how are you gonna introduce yourself without using your job title? Brad Crowell 28:08  Be, do, have. Lesley Logan 28:09  What are you going to do Brad? That's homework. We'll figure this out. Brad Crowell 28:12  I'm gonna BDH. Be, do, have. Lesley Logan 28:14  Well, what if we just say like, I help women prioritize themselves? Brad Crowell 28:17  I dig that.Lesley Logan 28:18  That's my introduction from now on right now. Starting this moment.Brad Crowell 28:22  I'm in. I agree. I like that. Lesley Logan 28:24  All right, cool. Okay, well, let's talk about the Be It Action Items.Brad Crowell 28:26  That's what we be. Lesley Logan 28:27  That's what we be. That's a shirt. Brad Crowell 28:32  That's what we be. We got merch. Okay, finally, let's talk about those be it action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Candy Motzek? Well, she said, every time she hears the word, be it till you see it. She always thinks of the word bee. Brad Crowell 28:34  Bee. Hey, shout out to Bridget who goes by bee Brad Crowell 28:44  Yeah. Because she said it's really the start of it. And she started to talk about embracing the mindset of being. Being your goal even before you have a goal right before you visibly see the goal. Lesley Logan 29:15  Before you see results which is like the Brad Crowell 29:17  Yeah, the be, do, have, right? So if we're if we're sticking with the theme, be it before you have it be it before you're doing it. Be it. Yeah. And you know I think I think that it's like you were talking about the guy who introduced himself before you know who he wanted to be and then landed that job and that's what this entire podcast is all about. Yeah being until you see it y'all. Lesley Logan 29:44  Yeah so, it's not about waiting until you have it to do and be it. So she (continued) on be with whatever the next step that they want to be is be it now and she actually made it like a little bit more tangible than I think anyone's ever said, which is like, when you're brushing your teeth. So if you want to be an executive or if you want to be a badass boss bitch, like, how would they brush their teeth? Would they slumped over the counter? Grab it, judge themselvesBrad Crowell 30:17  They have someone who brushes their teeth for them.Lesley Logan 30:21  You know, what's actually really funny as we were in Cambodia, and I wasn't making the bed and Brad goes, "Rich people make the bed." And I was like, fucking right they do. They do. So if you're washing the dishes, how would someone if you want to be someone who isn't stressed out who has ease who, you know, has a big, bold, how all the things, whatever that is, whatever that person is going to be when you're washing the dishes, how would they wash the dishes, would they wash the dishes with amazing music on? Would they wash the dishes with like, their favorite show on? Like, how would they wash the dishes and do that now. Because it's really crazy. Like, if you actually think about this, like, who you want to be in the future? If you were that person now with all the things you still have to do. How would that person handle those things? Yeah, this is how Be It Till You See It came about. Because I was like, Okay, I don't know how to be a CEO. Okay, well, if I was a CEO, how would I handle this problem right now? Okay, if I was here, right now, I probably wouldn't be handling this problem because someone else would be handling this problem. So who would be handling this problem? Okay, so it'd be that person. Who is that person in my company right now? Oh, I can hire Brad to do that thing. Okay, I'm gonna hire Brad to do that thing. Like, you could, you can actually like step into the role, like, a CEO does not actually stress out about whether someone is on time or not. Someone else stresses about that person being on time. The CEO manages the person who does that. So if I'm the CEO, I can't think about, not, like minor problems, I have to focus on the big problems. I focus on the big fires. And that really helped me go, oh, these are the fires, I have to worry about burning, not those ones over there. So that is like what she is asking you to do. Whoever you want to be next being that now when you wash the dishes, when you brush your teeth when you do your day-to-day stuff. How would you drive the car? If you were this this person and you're driving your car are you going, fuck you, da-da-da, honk, honk, honk. Or are you like, oh, I am driving. I'm like sitting in the backseat of the car, this car like you might have to still drive the car. But like, you wouldn't actually be paying attention to any of that nonsense. Because you would be in the backseat. You're in the front seat now. But you could, like, what would it like to be in the backseat and not care about the person cutting you off? Try it out. Let us know how it goes in your life. Tag Candy. Tag the Be It pod. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:31  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:32  We fucking love you. Brad Crowell 32:34  Yeah. Lesley Logan 32:34  And since it is Thanksgiving, we are very grateful for you. I know we say it all the time. But you need to know like, this podcast doesn't exist if you don't listen.Brad Crowell 32:42  It's true. Lesley Logan 31:09  So thank you for listening to the show. Thank you for sharing it to your friends. Thank you for sending your suggestions in, your questions. You know, we and if you Brad Crowell 32:51  If you have never written to us, Lesley Logan 32:54  Write to us. Brad Crowell 32:55  Just say hi. You don't have to actually ask a question. You can just say, hey, heard your pod. Love you.Lesley Logan 33:00  Do you know, you can post it in the review, if you want. And also, we send out an email every Thursday about the pod and you can just hit reply on that, it comes to me. Brad Crowell 33:09  You can also do that. Lesley Logan 33:10  It comes to me. And if you're like I don't get that email, well, hit me up. And I'll tell you how to get the email. Brad Crowell 33:15  Go to the website. Lesleylogan.com. Lesley Logan 33:17  Yeah, you can get that. Anyways, we are really grateful for you. And because we do this for you, and when you are stressed, when you're frustrated, when you're crying, when you're like, oh, I wish I could just fucking have it already. All those problems are how I find guests. And you're not alone in those problems. That's why we do this podcast, it's really important that you understand that every single person has obstacles. Every single person who listens to this podcast has an obstacle that they've overcome and probably one they're dealing with in the moment that I'm interviewing them. And they show up for you, you show up for you. And that's why this podcast exists. So thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 33:55  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 33:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 34:24  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network.Brad Crowell 34:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 34:32  It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 34:36  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 34:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 34:49  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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