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2 episodes with eternal torment
2 episodes with eternal torment
"For the longest time, Paul's Epistle to the Romans has been used to justify misogyny, homophobia, eternal conscious torment, and blind allegiance to the State. However, the truth is that the Apostle Paul never intended his letter to the Church in Rome to teach any of those things. That's why co-authors Keith Giles and Matthew J. Distefano have collaborated to correct these misunderstandings and illuminate the true meaning of Paul's theological masterpiece for today's Christian reader." In this engaging conversation, hosts Zack and Andy welcome Keith Giles and Matthew J. Distefano from Quoir Publishing to discuss their new book on Romans, "Reading Romans Right: Correcting Common Misreadings, Restoring Paul's Original Intent". They explore themes of faith, disagreement, and the importance of listener feedback in the podcasting world. The discussion delves into the misreadings of Romans, the nature of God's wrath, and the implications of eternal torment not being mentioned by Paul, challenging traditional interpretations and emphasizing the need for a more nuanced understanding of scripture. The conversation highlights the role of scholarship in making complex theological concepts accessible to a broader audience, ultimately aiming to foster a more compassionate and understanding approach to faith. In this conversation, the speakers delve into various theological perspectives, particularly focusing on the teachings of Paul and the interpretation of his letters. They explore the concept of God's wrath, the importance of understanding the historical context of scripture, and the role of women in the early church. The discussion also touches on the impact of video games on narrative engagement and how these experiences can parallel the exploration of faith and belief. Ultimately, the speakers aim to present a more nuanced understanding of Paul's message, emphasizing that it is rooted in good news rather than fear-based theology.Check out more from Keith and Matthew:https://quoir.com/Heretic Happy Hour PodcastWatch Keith debate "dr" James White HEREMatthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including The Wisdom of Hobbits, winner of the 17th annual National Indie Excellence Award for best philosophy book. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico, and has been in social work for over a decade, currently working as a Professional Service Coordinator in Butte County, California. In addition to his professional life, Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can find his work at allsetfree.com.Keith Giles is the best-selling author of the Jesus Un series. He has appeared on CNN, USA Today, BuzzFeed, and John Fugelsang's "Tell Me Everything." Keith and his wife currently reside in El Paso. SUBSCRIBE & SHARE us this week!Contact Us: brosbiblesbeer@gmail.com Leave Us A VoicemailYouTubeSimpleCastSpotifyApple PodcastsFacebook XInstaBros Bibles & Beer is: Jeff, Zack & Andy Find us wherever fine podcasts are distributed. Oh, and share us with a friend this week! Grace. Peace. Cheers!
In a book about hope, why would the first subject be God's judgment in sending people to hell? In this text we learn about evidence of God's righteous judgments that will bring hope to every believer.
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The tragic story of Mallt-y-Nos (Matilda of the Night), the female spirit cursed to hunt and ride for eternity. What drove this Norman lady to such a fate? How did her passion for the hunt lead to everlasting torment? Discover the dark wish that sealed her destiny and how her ghostly cries still echo through the Welsh countryside. Explore the lore with Mark Rees (Ghosts of Wales) on the Ghosts and Folklore of Wales podcast... if you dare. Until next time, nos da! ORDER PARANORMAL CARDIFF BY MARK REES: Mark's latest "Ghosts of Wales" book "Paranormal Cardiff". You can order it online here. BUY MARK REES A COFFEE: If you'd like to support the GHOSTS AND FOLKLORE OF WALES podcast you can treat Mark to a coffee here: Mark Rees on Ko-Fi - thank you/ diolch! https://ko-fi.com/markrees WHAT IS THE GHOSTS AND FOLKLORE OF WALES PODCAST WITH MARK REES? The "Ghosts and Folklore of Wales" podcast explores Welsh ghosts and ghost stories, lore, myths and legends. Launched by author and journalist Mark Rees (Ghosts of Wales/ Paranormal Wales) in early 2020, this weird and wonderful podcast takes a fascinating look at the country's countless curious subjects by combining decades of research from many books and articles with long-lost tales from dusty old tomes. Ranging from "real life" encounters with the uncanny to fantastical adventures from the Mabinogion, new episodes are uploaded every other (Folklore) Thursday and feature everything from pesky poltergeists to fire-breathing dragons, with the odd wicked - and not-so-wicked - witch along the way. Along with the regular stories you can also expect the odd special guest, an occasional live ghost hunt, and all sorts of crazy ideas. Seasonal specials include the dark folklore and Gothic Halloween (Nos Calan Gaeaf) traditions, and everyone's favourite skulled-headed Christmas visitor, the Mari Lwyd herself. Dare you explore haunted Wales? From the sublime mountains and cascading waterfalls to the bustling cities and remote farms, go in search of the paranormal and the unexplained in all corners of Cymru - think of it as opening the Welsh The X-Files... and some tenuous Ghostbusters links! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss a spooky episode, and for more details and to get in touch with Mark Rees, please visit https://markreesonline.com/: Mark Rees homepage Mark Rees on social media Books by Mark Rees (Ghosts of Wales, Paranormal Wales etc.) Ghosts and Folklore of Wales podcast It's spooky time!
This week, I am cross-posting a popular episode featured on my other podcast, Byte-Geist, to Tillich Today. In this episode of Byte-Geist, I dive into the fiery depths of one of Christianity's most enduring and controversial concepts: Hell. Together, let's challenge the traditional depictions of eternal damnation through a lively discussion with Dr. Rodney Duke, a biblical scholar and distinguished professor at Appalachian State University. Known for his insightful scholarship and engaging teaching style, Dr. Duke has just the right expertise to help us explore what the New Testament really says about Hell and how these interpretations have evolved over time. We review the historical, cultural, and linguistic contexts that have shaped Christian understandings of the afterlife. Don't forget to get your Theology Beer Camp tickets! Using the promo code TILLICHTODAY at check out will get you $25 off of your purchase! For more on Dr. Duke's work, see the following links and be sure to check out his online devotionals. Devotional Blog: https://dukesdevotional.blogspot.com/ Scholarly Work: Rodney Duke, "Eternal Torment or Destruction? Interpreting Final Judgment Texts" Evangelical Quarterly 88.3 (2016/17) 237-58. https://brill.com/view/journals/evqu/... Rodney Duke, “The Idiom of ‘Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth' in the Gospels: A Funerary Formula,” Perspectives in Religious Studies 47.3 (2020) 283-98. • Rodney Duke–Eternal Torment or Destru...
This week we talk about women, and bears and hell which seems oddly fitting given the circumstances. Grab your favorite beverage; this one is a doozy. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/gohomebible This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenholt from Podcat Audio: https://elizabethnordenholt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
“I liked it until you explained it.” / “Grogu hits puberty.” / “The Mandalorian And Grogu Show.” / “The Dooku From Hell.” / “Oatmeal and Techno…I don't want to live in that reality.” All this can be heard in this episode, along with discussions on the following topics: A new low-budget horror movie called Bikers […]
Hell is a Real Place of Eternal Torment with Only One Way to Avoid It.
Brad tells cringy stories from his teenage years in order to make a point: Christian conservatives often start arguments by saying that everyone has a worldview, so everyone is religious. If you don't worship God, they say, then you worship yourself or something else. Brad and Dan decode and refute this argument, while telling hilarious stories from the past. They also answer a ton of AMA questions. Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus episodes, ad-free listening, access to the entire 500-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/StraightWhiteJC Order Brad's book: https://www.amazon.com/Preparing-War-Extremist-Christian-Nationalism/dp/1506482163 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this one, Tempest was pretty great! Super quick arrival, professional and knowledgeable about the city, though was occasionally distracted and not keeping an eye on the road. 4/5, would ride again.
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In this week's message, Pastor Chris continues unpacking some important parables often equated to the Eternal Conscious Torment view of Hell. Today we look at the Sheep, the Goats, The Rich Man, and Lazarus. Give Facebook Instagram Website
In this week's message, Pastor Chris continues our Hell-ology series talking about the view of Eternal Conscious Torment. This view of Hell has created tremendous fear, spiritual PTSD, and has wrongly become the center of the gospel message in the western church! Give Facebook Instagram Website
The concept of hell has captivated the minds of believers and put the proverbial “fear of God” into the hearts of the “unrighteous” for millennia. While some form of post-mortal punishment exists as a doctrine in most world religions, not all believe the same thing about hell, its nature, or even how long the “damned” might dwell there. Listen to this episode to learn more about how various religions understand the concept of “hell.”
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Re- Release of a classic IRON SHOW LIVE! Presentation on the three classical views of Hell that the church has held for almost 2000 years. Eternal Torment, Annihilationism and Christian Universalism.
How do we get the Biblical Hell Right? what is the right view of this place of Eternal Torment? There are a lot of people who do not believe that Hell exists OR that it is how the Bible describes it. You can expect this kind of thinking among unbelievers, but according to the “Pew Research Study” in 2014 34% of Christians say they DO NOT believe in Hell and 8% of Christians are not sure if it exists. That is what many people think, and it is what many so-called preachers teach. Today, Jarrod will be exposing three major Religious cults that have their own version of Hell. He will be using Examples: Carlton Pearson, Priest John Spong, and Black Mamba from Truth4Satan to show how these religious cults are false. Hope you enjoy Today's Episode and maybe take something from it Support on Patreon with a little as $3 and get things like unique mugs, posters, and shirts. Also A Live Q&A with Jarrod Knepp to discuss things that are talked about on the Podcast. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jarrodknepp --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jarrodknepp/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jarrodknepp/support
Born in Canada, and raised in southwestern England and northern Ontario, John Stackhouse was educated in history and religious studies at Mount Carmel Bible School in Alberta, Queen's University in Ontario (B.A., First Class Honours), Wheaton College Graduate School in Illinois (M.A., with Highest Honors), and The University of Chicago (Ph.D.). In this episode we discuss Hell, specifically from the view of terminal punishment as opposed to everlasting torment. We talk about Revelation 14:10-11, Jesus's passion at the cross being finite, second death, and much more! Guest Website: https://www.johnstackhouse.com Book: http://www.canibelieve.com/ Book on 3 views of hell: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Views-Hell-Counterpoints-Theology-ebook/dp/B010R9L4BC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3JHSVZLQM66MC&keywords=views+on+hell&qid=1652714036&sprefix=views+on+hell%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1 YouTube: https://youtu.be/iqk1Pj1mklY Email Host: theweirdchristianpodcast@gmail.com
Scripture says that in the last days the apostasy will come. The church will become apostate, that means it will fall into error and teach doctrinal error. One of those doctrinal errors is, the doctrine of eternal damnation and eternal torment. Now I know that will upset a lot of people to hear me say something like that, but if you do your historical homework you will see that this doctrine is a doctrine which was created by Augustine around the year 400 and brought into the Catholic church and from the Catholic Church brought into the protestant churches.Listen for more...This program references scripture:1 Timothy 4:10, 5:21Acts 10:34For more Free books, Sunday teachings and bible studies, please visit us at: https://www.walkinginpower.orgDr. Bern Zumpano is a Pastor and Teacher of the Word of God who has authored several books on Spirit-filled living through relationship with Jesus Christ and walking in the Power of the Holy Spirit. Bern has not only been a born-again believer for nearly the past 40 years, but also dedicated 31 years of his life to the study and clinical practice of medicine and surgery in the fields of psychiatry and brain surgery. He has held medical school professorships in psychiatry and neurosurgery and worked in private practice in both areas. Bern has an immense background in understanding the physical body, as well as the soul - the mind, will, and emotions - not only from a medical standpoint but also from a spiritual standpoint. With his background and training, he has been led by the Holy Spirit to teach "the Deep Things of God" (1 Cor. 2:10) with an emphasis on Spiritual Warfare (Jer. 51:20), Breaking Generations' Curses (Ex. 20:5; Lev. 26:40-44), walking in the Power of the Holy Spirit (John 14:12; 1 Cor. 4:20; Luke 17:21) and "the Restoration of All Things" (Acts 3:21). We at Word of Faith Ministries International-Miami hope and pray that these teachings of the Holy Spirit through Bern will edify and regenerate your spirit to gain a deeper understanding of God's Word and His truths so you can have a deeper and more intimate relationship with Him. May God bless you all!!
What about those that reject the Gospel? Is eternal punishment proper justice for finite sins? This video is from our 2021 Fall lecture series responding to Gospel Objections. Each week, we evaluate a common objection to the core message of Jesus. For more information and resources go to http://rc-tamu.org/gospel-objections Note: This video has been slightly […]
This week...WE HAVE A DOUBLE FEATURE...because Editing Taylor had a rough week. In this episode, we are joined by our lovely friend Mats and talk about our favorite taxi ride ever. Send us an Iris message at oftheeldestgodspod@gmail.com with your thoughts and theories going forward! We would love to hear from you. Make sure to subscribe so you know when our next episode drops and rate and review if you like what we are doing. IG: https://www.instagram.com/oftheeldestgodspod/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/oftheeldestgods SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/oftheeldestgods BUY OUR MERCH, PLZ: http://tee.pub/lic/iqnn8laIbzg Follow Taylor: IG: https://www.instagram.com/taylorfromcabin6/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/HistoricalFemme Plug: We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson Follow Charlie: IG: https://www.instagram.com/greenpixie12/ and https://www.instagram.com/greenpixiedraws/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/greenpixie123 Fandoms Gone Wrong: https://www.instagram.com/fandomsgonewrongpod/ and https://twitter.com/fandomgonewrong Plug: The New Scooby-Doo Movies Follow Mats IG: https://www.instagram.com/mdotfur/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mdotfur Plug: Ted Lasso (TV Show) 1. Graeae 2. Ganymede
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Greg unpacks Jesus' judgement in Matthew 25 and the parable of the sheep and the goats.. Episode 834 Greg's new book: Inspired Imperfection Dan's new book: Confident Humility Send Questions To: Dan: @thatdankentTwitter: @reKnewOrg Facebook: ReKnew Email: askgregboyd@gmail.com Links: Greg's book:"Crucifixion of the Warrior God" Website: ReKnew.org
In this unusual episode, I will be taking a strong position on debunking Eternal Conscious Torment, the theory that sinners will be tormented forever and ever. It is unbiblical and [should be] horrifying to anyone who considers the possibility. Is God a sadist who loves to watch his creatures "turning and burning and roasting" for billions of years because they told a couple lies, or is he loving?--those two concepts can't coexist. Eternity is an unfathomable amount of time; can any reasonable God think eternal punishment for a mere 80 years of sin is somehow just and fair? The time it would take a bird to wear away a mountain with the tip of her beak is just a fraction of the time God is said to torment his children. Personally, I think that's one hell of a bird. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/talesfromsacredtexts/support
In the first of our 3-part series on hell, we do an introduction to the topic of hell and explain the universalist view of hell. We also explain who God created hell for, whether people become unconscious at the point of death, and the difference between Sheol, Hades, & Gehenna–all terms the Bible uses to describe hell.
This episode we dive into some good conversations as always! 1st Half : Free Will or Predestination? Original Sin? Who is God? [ Break with Josh (34:53) : Laughing with Lawyers (Bar Exam) ] 2nd Half (38:55) : Does God Know All? Love All? What is Hell? Join us as we provide our perspectives on these questions & others! Sources: - The Bible (quoted/read from/paraphrased) - Interesting perspective for those who believe in “Eternal Torment” - https://www.truthaccordingtoscripture.com/documents/death/myth-of-eternal-torture/chapter-1.php#.YDwipC2z05c - Jungian Self: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_in_Jungian_psychology Ways to Connect with Us: - Email: foursightpodcast@gmail.com - Twitter: @foursightpdcast - Instagram: @foursightpodcast - SoundCloud: @foursightpodcast Westlink Church YouTube Channel: - www.youtube.com/channel/UCwvI... [ where Andrew does ministry, for live streams & encouragement ] Intro/Outro Song: - "Soul Patch" by Kai Jorgensen - open.spotify.com/artist/6UdYE... Hosted by Joshua Gage, Andrew Brown, Gabriel Gasiorowski & Benjamin Brown Recorded by way of Zoom on March 1, 2021
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Adjunct professor of Bible and Theology at Trinity College Chris Date and Nate Jacobson join the pod to talk about the Evangelical belief in the negative hereafter. An eternal Hell where unbelievers are tortured forever is a common belief in Evangelical circles but does the Bible actually teach about eternal conscious torment in a fiery pit? ______________________________ Check out Chris Date's website: rethinkinghell.com and theopologetics.com. You can get a copy of Chris Date's book (with Phil Fernandes): "Is Hell Forever: Does the Bible Teach that Hell will be Annihilation or Eternal Torment?" For more information on the topic, check out: "The Fire That Consumes: A Biblical and Historical Study of the Doctrine of Final Punishment" by Edward William Fudge Check out Nate Jacobson's writing and reflections: https://afterall.net/ ______________________________ Mentioned on the Pod: Book: "Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived" by Rob Bell. Order here: https://bookoutlet.com/Store/Details/9780062049650B?source=ppc&ppc_campaign=u1407004000&gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgZttOGur2O0_TbS2-Cje58x9pTQvis5hyRat-9BdgKAjPy3luw7aLBoCwzgQAvD_BwE Book: "The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life in God" by Dallas Willard. Order here: https://www.christianbook.com/the-divine-conspiracy-dallas-willard/9780060693336/pd/69333?en=google&event=SHOP&kw=christian-living-0-20%7C69333&p=1179710&dv=c&gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgV9iEiUtyHsE94-5KvbkW_c70pO24dgoQZiMLhluSe2hqV05Akc_mxoCku0QAvD_BwE Zach's music can be experienced at https://muzach.bandcamp.com/ Dave occasionally blogs at: www.dangeroushope.wordpress.com Twitter: Zach - @muzach Dave- @davejlester Chris- @datechris Nate- @afterall_net Email: vocwpod@gmail.com Music on podcast by Zach Malm Logo by Zach Malm
22 After these things Jesus and His disciples came into the land of Judea, and there He remained with them and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there was much water there. And they came and were baptized. 24 For John had not yet been thrown into prison.25 Then there arose a dispute between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purification. 26 And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified—behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!”27 John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven. 28 You yourselves bear me witness, that I said, ‘I am not the Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent before Him.’ 29 He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease. 31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all. 32 And what He has seen and heard, that He testifies; and no one receives His testimony. 33 He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true. 34 For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. 35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand. 36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
In this heartfelt and moving conversation, author Keith Giles and I discuss his transition from holding a view of eternal conscious torment (burning forever in hell) to annihilationism and then to his current view of patristic universalism. We also discuss common objections to ultimate redemption. Keith is one of four co-hosts of the insanely popular Heretic Happy Hour podcast. He has written several excellent books including Jesus Untangled, Jesus Unbound, Jesus Unveiled, Jesus Unexpected, and literally wrote the book on the subject we're going to be talking about today: Jesus Undefeated: Condemning the False Doctrine of Eternal Torment. You can find Keith's Patheos column here. You can find Keith's Amazon author page featuring all of his books here. During this conversation, Keith mentions the following books as resources for further study:Her Gates Will Never Be Shut by Brad Jersak That All Shall Be Saved by David Bentley Hart All You Want to Know About Hell by Steve Gregg Universalism: The Prevailing Doctrine of the Christian Church During Its First Five Hundred Years by J.W. Hanson Keith's Square One and Ground Zero courses are definitely worth checking out. Find all of the info regarding those courses here. Finally, I encourage you to take a look at Keith's Patreon page where he consistently produces thought provoking, meaningful content for his patrons. For more on this subject, please visit MessySpirituality.org. Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.
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In this week's episode we sit down with Keith Giles who wrote a book called "Jesus Undefeated" where he pulls apart the doctrine of eternal torture. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: Show Notes: Patreon What If Project SWAG What If Project AfterParty (Newsletter!) Jesus Undefeated Jesus Unexpected BK2SQ1 SERIES SPONSER - BeADisciple.com SPECIAL MUSIC - DJ KDOT - Apple Music - Spotify - Instagram
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This week, a very special podcaster descends upon Return to Camp Half-Blood to take a ride in the Grey Sister's cab and battle both capitalism and New Jersey, Robert Gaymer of Into the Riordanverse and of The Dam Meme Page. Together they analyze chapters 3 and 4 of Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Sea of Monsters "We Hail the Taxi of Eternal Torment" and "Tyson Plays With Fire" through the chaotically chaotic theme of CHAOS. Want more Robert? Checkout @theDamMemePage and Into The Riordanverse on all major podcasting platforms Check out bonus content on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/returntocamp Buy cool merch at Redbubble: www.redbubble.com/people/onthevergepro/shop Follow us on Twitter & Instagram: @ReturnToCamp For more of your Hosts: @brydnstllmn @niamhhsherlock @avapirie Music: https://www.purple-planet.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/return-to-camp-half-blood/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/return-to-camp-half-blood/support
On this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric is joined by Chris Date. Chris is Adjunct Professor of Bible and Theology at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary and co-editor of Rethinking Hell: Readings in Evangelical Conditionalism (Cascade, 2014) and A Consuming Passion (Pickwick, 2015). A full-time software engineer, Chris believes theology and apologetics are for every average joe in the pews, and not just for pastors, philosophers, PhD's and the erudite in ivory towers. Formerly a traditionalist, he became convinced of the biblical view of final punishment over the course of a process which began when he interviewed Edward Fudge, and he has since defended the view in several debates and on Justin Brierley's Unbelievable? radio program on Premier Christian Radio UK. Chris is also a steward of the Rethinking Hell project. Chris Date: Pick up a copy of one of Chris' books here: https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A (https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A) RethinkingHell.com RethingHellConference.com https://bit.ly/3gjphk2 (https://bit.ly/3gjphk2) chrisdate@rethinkinghell.com Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting: preacherboysdoc.com https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/ (https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/) https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc (https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc) https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/ (https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/) To connect with a community who share the Preacher Boys Podcast mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188/) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Annihilationism is the belief that the wicked will cease to exist after the final judgment. Conditionalism goes an extra step beyond annihilationism to clarify why mankind can not survive eternally in the lake of fire. In this episode, Chris Date comes on the show to explain why the wicked will be annihilated at the final judgment because of the conditional state of eternal life. His uses the resurection of the dead, the nature of humanities mortality, and the atonement of Jesus Christ to articulate his possition of conditionalism. This is going to be a fun episode, hope you guys enjoy. ____________________________________________________________________________________Help Support The Channel through a one time gift or a monthly contribution.https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=GC2Z86XHHG4X6____________________________________________________________________________________
Does the typical view of hell make it hard for you to see God as a loving Father? Join Keith Giles and I as we explore this topic. We discuss his new book, "Jesus Undefeated: Condemning the False Doctrine of Eternal Torment." Check it out here. I dive into this topic as well in my book, "There's a God In My Closet: Encountering the Love Who Embraces Our Skeletons." Check it out here.
Fake money that online auto-givers can place in the offering basket, a family prays for their 2 year olds resurrection & Keith Giles on his provocative call to introduce Christians to Jesus. And why, in his view the doctrine of eternal torment has got to go. https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-family-church-pray-girl-resurrection https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/21/bethel-church-prayer-hasnt-brought-olive-back-life/2724417001/ Link love for Keith: https://www.patreon.com/KeithGiles https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/ The book: "Jesus Undefeated:Condemning the False Doctrine of Eternal Torment" https://www.bk2sq1.com/ https://heretichappyhour.com/ -Subscribe to Bros Bibles & Beer on Apple Podcasts-Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!-https://www.facebook.com/brosbiblesbeer-https://twitter.com/brosbiblesbeer-https://www.brosbiblesbeer.com-Instagram: @brosbiblesbeer-Email: brosbiblesbeer@gmail.comBros Bibles & Beer is: Mr. Jeff Pearson, Mr Scott "the scoot" Hulbert & Mr. Zack KraterEdited by: Zack KraterFind us wherever fine podcasts are distributed. Oh, and tell a friend!Grace. Peace. Cheers!
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Rethinking Hell Part 2 (Is Hell Eternal Conscious Torment?): With Jordan Sutton (2019)In this episode of The Remnant Radio, Jordan Sutton is coming on the show to continue teaching us about conditionalism. The Idea that eternal life is only given to those who believe in Christ. By deduction, those who do not believe in Christ will not live eternally. Some have chosen to call this annihilationism, in short, we are discussing if hell is eternal conscious torment as it has been portrayed by media and the church, Or his Hell a place where people cease to be?Jordan will also be responding to some of the objections to conditionalism. ____________________________________________________________________________________Help Support The Channelhttps://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=GC2Z86XHHG4X6____________________________________________________________________________________ACADEMIC RESOURCES ON CONDITIONALISM The Fire That Consumes: A Biblical and Historical Study of the Doctrine of Final Punishment, 3 ed. by Edward William Fudge https://www.amazon.com/Fire-That-Consumes-Historical-Punishment/dp/1504029348Rethinking Hell: Readings in Evangelical Conditionalism Edited by Christopher Date, Gregory Stumphttps://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-Hell-Readings-Evangelical-Conditionalism-ebook/dp/B00K6Y48L2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=Rethinking+Hell:+Readings+in+Evangelical+Conditionalism+Edited+by+Christopher+Date,+Gregory+Stump&qid=1569282964&s=books&sr=1-1-fkmr0____________________________________________________________________________________ACADEMIC RESOURCES ON TRADITIONAL POSITIONHell Under Fire: Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment 2004 Editors (Christopher W. Morgan Robert A. Peterson, Contributors, Gregory K. Beale, Daniel I. Block, Sinclair B. Ferguson, Mohler Jr., R. Albert, Douglas J. Moo, J. I. Packer, Robert Yarbrough) https://www.amazon.com/Hell-Under-Fire-Scholarship-Punishment/dp/B00MDAH8A0/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Hell+Under+Fire%3A+Modern+Scholarship+Reinvents+Eternal+Punishment+2004&qid=1569283567&s=books&sr=1-1____________________________________________________________________________________RESOURCES WRITTEN FOR THE AVERAGE PERSONErasing Hell: 2011by Francis Chan and Preston Sprinkle https://www.amazon.com/Erasing-Hell-about-Eternity-Things-ebook/dp/B0054QAY8I/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=Erasing+Hell%3A+2011+by+Francis+Chan+and+Preston+Sprinkle&qid=1569283770&s=books&sr=1-1-fkmr0Hell: A Final Word 2012 by Edward W. Fudge https://www.amazon.com/Hell-Final-Edward-William-Fudge-ebook/dp/B00EHSYMBO/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Hell%3A+A+Final+Word+2012+by+Edward+W.+Fudge&qid=1569283966&s=books&sr=1-1____________________________________________________________________________________COUNTERPOINT BOOKS ON THE ISSUE Four Views on Hell (older work) 1996(Contributors, John F. Walvoord, William Crockett, Zachary J. Hayes, Clark H. Pinnock)https://www.amazon.com/Four-Views-Hell-Counterpoints-Theology/dp/0310516463/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=Four+Views+on+Hell+%28older+work%29+1996+Contributors&qid=1569284053&s=books&sr=1-1-fkmr1Two Views of Hell: A Biblical & Theological Dialogue (Spectrum Multiview Book) 2000Contributors (Edward Fudge, Robert A. Peterson)https://www.amazon.com/Two-Views-Hell-Biblical-Theological/dp/0830822550/ref=sr_1_fkmr3_1?keywords=Two+Views+of+Hell%3A+A+Biblical+%26+Theological+Dialogue+%28Spectrum+Multiview+Book%29+2000&qid=1569284193&s=books&sr=1-1-fkmr3Four Views on Hell: 2nd ed. (Counterpoints: Bible and Theology) – 2016Contributors (Denny Burk, Stackhouse Jr., John G., Robin Parry, Jerry Walls)https://www.amazon.com/Four-Views-Hell-Counterpoints-The
Is it a "one size fits all" hell, that no matter the circumstances, if you did not believe, you will be suffering the same punishment as the Adolf Hitlers of history? Where do we get our idea of hell? What does the Bible say about it?
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Shelton interviews his college classmate Amber. Listen as she shares her story of being let go as a Christian teacher for her beliefs. This episode goes into the belief of Annihilation. This is one interesting and thought provoking episode. Enjoy!
Is there a literal Hell? Who will go there? What is the Lake of Fire? Would a loving God send people to Eternal Torment?
Paul explains how the moral teachings of Jesus show that the doctrine of hell is just and accordingly why Jesus taught the doctrine.
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This sermon is based on Revelation 14:9-11
This sermon is based on Revelation 14:9-11
This message was preached at New Testament Christian Fellowship on June 4, 2017. Herein, the eternal torment of the Beast-worshippers in verse 11 is contrasted with the eternal rest of the Tribulation saints in verse 13. Moreover, the false doctrine of Annihilationism is refuted with clear Scripture, and the ultimate judgment of the wicked is shown to be cause for rejoicing for the righteous (13:12). Warning, this is more old fashioned "hellfire and brimstone" preaching! And, after the manner of Paul the Apostle in the New Testament who named names at least ten times, I Timothy 5:20 is applied.
Two Categories of Humans: True Worshipers and False Worshipers Alright, so we come this morning to the second last sermon, I'm going to preach in the Book of Isaiah, but the last chapter of the book of Isaiah, next week, God willing I'm going to give an overview of the whole Book of Isaiah I could go through this book all over again. I love the Book of Isaiah, I've loved this journey. But next week what I'm going to do is I'm going to trace out specifically Christ in the Book of Isaiah, and the Gospel, and we're going to go from Isaiah 1 to 66 one more time. But this is the last chapter, the final chapter in the book of Isaiah what a fitting conclusion it is Isaiah is the most visionary of all, the Old Testament prophets and take an average section of the Book of Isaiah, close your eyes and images come in vision right from the beginning, Isaiah 1:2 the word of the Lord that Isaiah son of Amos, saw it's a vision, And so this most visionary of prophets comes to an incredible and fitting end to his incredible book, and that is a revelation of the eternal state of both the righteous and the wicked, the final chapter of Isaiah divides the human race as we've seen again and again into two categories. I'm going to unify it around this one idea of true and false worship we're going to follow the idea of worship. There's different ways we could look at this chapter, but we're going to look at true worshipers versus false worshippers. And the outcome. It describes very plainly the heart and behavior of both the true worshippers, and the false worshippers, as well as their eternal destinies, heaven and hell, the Book of Isaiah, ends with the vision of the new heavens and the new earth with Zion the New Jerusalem eternally populated by true worshippers from every nation on earth who are going to be continually falling down before God and worshiping him. But Isaiah also ends literally ends with the last verse that you heard Joel just read, verse 24 it ends with a clear depiction of hell. The state of eternal death, in which rebellious human beings will suffer in plain view, of the redeemed for all eternity. And I think it's appropriate that this theme of worship, both true worship and false worship unifies this final chapter. Because the human race, we were created to worship. Our hearts our souls were made to find worth and value. And to esteem it and have it flow out in our words, we're made to worship. In Romans chapter 1, talks about how we have given over that heart to idols. We exchange the truth of God for a lie, and worship and serve created things rather than the Creator, who is forever praised amen Romans 1:25, the clearest the best definition of idolatry in the Bible. Idolatry has been front and center throughout the Book of Isaiah. We've seen it again and again. As has God's work of redemption his plan of redemption in reclaiming ex-idolaters healing us of our idolatry and bringing us over to worship God in spirit and in truth. I. True Worshipers Delightful, False Worshipers Detestable (vs. 1- 4) And so we come to this final book and we begin in an amazing way verses 1-4, we're going to see true worshipers delightful and false worshippers detestable. True Worshipers Tremble Before the Throne and Word of God Let's begin at 66:1-2. "This is what the LORD says: 'Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be? Has not my hand made all these things, and so they came into being?' declares the LORD. 'This is the one I esteem: he who is humble and contrite in spirit, and trembles at my word.'" So God declares right at the beginning of this chapter, once again he is ineffable he is immeasurable. He is infinite majesty, this immense God has been the center of the whole Book of Isaiah, and here He declares the impossibility of finite man, making anything suitable, any place suitable for him to dwell any suitable place for us to worship Him, and the impossibility really of making a finite container for this infinite God. The Jews were continually tempted to be overly impressed with their temple, their own structure, that they built for worship and with the religion that flowed from it. Before the exile, the Babylon after the time of Isaiah, but right before the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple, in the book, of a book of Jeremiah, the Jeremiah the prophet had to stand at the gates of the temple and say to the Jewish people "Do not say in your hearts, we have the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord." Three times they said it, why? Because they were clinging to it, "God would never allow this city to be destroyed, he would never allow the temple to be destroyed." Religious people are always tempted to trust in their religion. To trust in their habits, the habits of piety and the beauty of their sanctuaries, that they made with their own hands, and they think that those actions make them righteous. But Solomon himself when he dedicated his beautiful temple, and he stood and he spread out his hands to pray. It came to a certain point I think, through the Spirit working on his heart, a point of humility First Kings 8:27 "But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!" Well, that's just a beautiful humility that King Solomon had saying, "What is this structure?" And I love what he says "heaven, even the highest heavens cannot contain you" there's no container for God. There's no barrier, no boundary line to which God goes up and reaches and that barrier says, "This far, you may go God and no further." There's no such thing. God fills heaven and earth with his complete presence. This is the doctrine of God's omnipresence. We could also say the doctrine of God's immensity. They're really probably the same thing in the end. God is 100% present everywhere in the universe with all of his being. "Do I not fill heaven and earth?" He says. And so he declares his sovereign dominion over heaven and earth. "Heaven is my throne," he says, "It's the place where I sit to dwell." "The earth is my footstool." The Heavens, the physical heavens that we can see with telescopes are in-comprehensively immense. The astronomers tell us that the observable universe is 46 billion light years across. That's something that we have no conception of. They tell us that light year's the distance that light can travel in one year. Physicists tell us that light is the fastest thing there is in the physical universe. So 46 billion years, it would take light to go from one side to the other, but they don't really know. They don't really understand what they're talking about and neither do I, but the creator of the universe fills all that space with all of his being all the time. So any earthly temple, any soaring stone cathedral built over two centuries with European limestone or marble or anything like that with beautiful, majestic, stained glass windows or any modern steel and glass worship center, state of the art technology doesn't really matter. Any man-made place of worship anywhere on the face of the earth is as nothing to God. He asked in effect in this in this verse, "Where in the world could there be anything that you could make that would possibly house me?" He really does mean to put us in our place here. The Hebrew is emphatic. It puts us in our place. We desire to glorify God by building soaring edifices, mighty cathedrals, flying buttresses, all of that. And you go to some of those cathedrals in Europe and they'll just take your breath away. We are impressed, but God is not impressed. There's nothing about them that impresses him. He actually to some degree, says, "I have a hard time finding them. I'm not able to see them. That's not where I'm looking. Heaven is my throne. The earth is my footstool. If you were to decorate the place that where my feet rest and you were to find gold and silver and costly stones and pearls and all that kind of thing, it would still not catch my eye at all. It wouldn't captivate my gaze." Actually, all of the building materials you would use are already God's before you even started. They belonged to him. Look at verse two, "Has not my hand made all these things. And so they came into being." They all belong to me, God is saying. Every atom in the universe is already God's, including every atom in your brain and every item in your hands. So the brain by which you would come up with the blueprint for the dwelling place for God, and the hands by which you would build that dwelling place for God and the building materials that you would use. All of it already belong to God already. All of it, for from him and through him and to him are all things, to him be the glory forever. So what captivates God's attention? What holds his gaze? What is he looking for? Well, he tells us here. This is the one to whom I will look. This is what radiant beauty looks like to me. You want to be beautiful. You want to capture God's gaze? He who is humble and contrite in spirit, and who trembles at my word. Humble and contrite and spirit means you're deeply aware, first of your creatureliness, you're created. He's the creator. And you're humble about that. There's an infinite gap between you and the creator, even if you have never sinned, but you have sinned. So secondly, that you're deeply aware of your sinfulness and God's holiness. You're deeply aware that your righteous acts cannot save you. And so Jesus began the Sermon on the Mount with this statement, "Blessed are poor in spirit [the spiritual beggars] for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." You are destitute spiritually and you know it, and you tremble at his word. God's resting place is here. It's among his humble, brokenhearted people who have been saved from their sins by his grace in Christ. God is searching out such a resting place. He is seeking such a place where he will settle down finally and worship and live with his people. So what he really wants from us is humility here in this text, brokenness. And he says, those who tremble at my word. What does this mean to tremble at God's word? Trembling is a physical physiological reaction, can be caused by a lot of things, could be caused by disease. Physiologically, your nervous system could be sending signals to your muscles and you're trembling. But this seems to be a trembling that comes because of thoughts, ideas, something that you're thinking about. Well, in that case you could be trembling because you're a thief about to get caught. You're surrounded and you're trembling with fear of getting caught or you could tremble because the best thing in your life that you never thought could happen is about to happen. Maybe your wedding day, or maybe your husband was a POW and he's been released and you can't wait for him to come down the gangway. And you see him and your trembling and you run and embrace after years of being apart. There's a lot of different reasons that we tremble. I think the thing here is that we're trembling concerning our own sinfulness and God's holiness. We're trembling concerning the just wrath of God that we deserve. But we're also trembling with expectation and how great and majestic and beautiful this God is. And we want to see him. And so there's this trembling at all of these deep themes of God's word. But either way, no matter how you look at it, what it means is by faith, you're taking this word seriously. You know this isn't merely the word of man, but it is the word of God as it actually is at work in you who believe. So you tremble at it and you take it seriously and you're humbled. That's the one that God looks to. Does this Characterize You? Now, let me just stop and ask you a question, does this characterize you? This is my application right in the middle of the sermon. Does this honestly characterize you? Are you humble and contrite in spirit, and do you tremble at God's Word? Are you deeply humbled by your sin and God's holiness? Do you understand that if you are to be saved, it will only be by the grace of God in Christ, His shed blood on the cross, is the only way you're going to survive Judgment Day. Are you aware of that? Do you seek also dynamically humility more and more? Do you seek to be more humble, a year from now than you are now? Do you see actually pride as a big problem in your life. It's an ongoing issue. Do you see that actually its corrupting your relationships? If you're married, it's corrupting your marriage. The biggest problem you have in your marriage, is your pride. It's corrupting your friendships, it's corrupting everything you touch. The pride is there, it's like, "Oh God, would you humble me?" It's like you cling to the promise, no longer a threat but a promise. At the end of the Book of Daniel that Nebuchadnezzar learn when God changed his mind to the mind of an animal, then turned it back after seven years. Those who walk in pride, He is able to humble. Then do it, Oh God, humble me. I want to be genuinely broken and contrite in spirit, and I want to tremble at your word. Begin every day, say, "Oh God I want to capture your gaze, I want you to like looking at me, I want you to enjoy looking at me, I want to be beautiful to you. Would you please make me humble and contrite in spirit? Would you give me a heart of trembling after your word?" False Worshipers Make Detestable Sacrifices Now conversely, in verse 3, we have false worshippers. Who are making detestable sacrifices. And if I can just stop, the dynamic as we've seen again in Isaiah, it's going to go back and forth from the righteous to the wicked and back again. It weaves all the way through the chapter as it does all the way through our experience. This is a world of wheat and weeds, of good fish and bad fish, all gathered by the same dragnet. We are mixed together in this world, and so this chapter is mixed together as well. Look at verse 3, "But whoever sacrifices a bull, is like one who kills a man, whoever offers a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck. Whoever makes a grain offering is like one who presents pig's blood and whoever burns Memorial incense is like one who worships an idol." Now here God is condemning the false worship of Israel. Now, there's two possibilities in my mind as I look at that, either he's condemning the Pharisee, type person, who outwardly is following the laws of Moses, through these right sacrifices but inwardly is totally corrupt. He's a white washed tomb that looks good on the outside, but inside full of dead men's bones and everything impure and unclean. Full of pride and lust, and covetousness and murder and idolatry. But outwardly, he's doing what the law requires. "These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me." Or he's talking about a syncretism, it was a big problem in Israel, where they mixed together, the pure religion that they got from Moses and the Canaanite religions that were there in the land, and they mixed them together. The Jews did this as well, syncretism, mixing together, the religion of the Bible with the religion of the world. Either way, it's a remarkable list, making lawful mosaic sacrifice is compared to the most vile things you could ever imagine to offer to God, to offer a bowl, if your heart is wrong, if you don't have that broken humble, contrite spirit, trembling at God's Word, and you're offering, a sacrifice that the law of Moses commanded, its corrupt to offer a bull, something as costly as a bull, that's an expensive animal, to offer a bull is as bad as killing a man to God. To offer a lamb is as bizarre as breaking a dog's neck. To present a grain offering is as repulsive God, as presenting pigs blood. To burn sweet smelling incense is as repulsive as bowing down to an idol. It's an interesting mix there. So the religious pattern, the external pattern means nothing if the heart's not right behind it. Now, this is a warning to us as Evangelical Christians. Again, I just want to stop and apply this right here. We have our own sacred list of biblically mandated duties, we have the Bible in the New Testament telling us to do certain things and we can become proud of them, and have corrupted lives and corrupted hearts, pray the sinner's prayer, realize that you're a sinner, water baptism follows, church membership, church involvement, attendance at worship, weekly attendance, daily quiet times. And then even some of the more advanced aspects of the Christian life, you could memorize scripture, you could be out doing street evangelism, you could be committed to missions, all of these things are good and right and beautiful but if they're done from a corrupted heart, they're not acceptable to God any more than these were back in the old covenant. So, it's a warning to us. None of these things can save us. False Worshipers Judged for Not Heeding God’s Word Now, the false worshippers. Are judged in verse 3 and 4 for not heeding God's word. "They have chosen their own ways and their souls delight in their abominations. And then further on, when I called, no one answered, when I spoke, no one listened. They did evil in my sight, and shows what displeases me." So the essence of false religion is independence from the Word of God. God told them what to do, He called, but they didn't listen. He made it very plain in His word, what He wants from us, but they crafted their own religion. This goes all the way back to Cain, remember where Cain offered up something God hadn't told him to offer. And he said, "If you do what is right, will you not be accepted?" He did what was wrong in offering that, he made up his own religion. So their punishment is extreme. Verse 4, "So I also will choose harsh treatment for them and bring upon them, what they dread." They chose their path, they made up their own religion. But God is going to choose their end and it will be terrifying. Fundamentally, they did not tremble at His word, but they were deaf to his calls. Now, for us in the new covenant era, the call is this: believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, repent and believe the good news. That's the call. And so God is now calling He's saying, "Call on me while I'm near. Seek the Lord while I may be found. This is the day of salvation. Now is the time." But, people hear that and they go their own way, they have their own answers to life's ultimate questions. II. False Worshipers Persecute, True Worshipers Prosper (vs. 5- 14a) Now, in Verses 5-14, we see false worshippers persecute and true worshippers prosper. The rest of this chapter, God directly addresses His children. It's written to them, but He never stops talking about the wicked, the false worshippers are much in view but they're always referred to in the third person for the rest of the chapter. Their punishment is clear for His elected children to see. So true worshipper or false worshippers persecute the true, look at Verse 5, it says, "Hear the word of the Lord you who tremble at His word." So, He's talking to the believers, talking to the children of God, "Hear the word of the Lord, you who tremble at His word, your brothers who hate you and exclude you because of my name have said, 'let the Lord be glorified that we may see your joy, yet they will be put to shame.'" There is a deep-seated enmity between the children of God and the children of the devil, they're at war with each other in world view if not physically, even. We have radically different ways of looking at everything in the world, and we have to be in the same world. God addresses those who tremble at His word, the true followers of Christ. And He speaks of brothers, your brothers who hate and exclude you. Now, obviously that happened from the very beginning with Cain when he killed his brother, Abel over matters of religion because Abel's offerings were offered by faith and Cains were not, and he hated him. Now in redemptive history, the first followers of Christ were all Jewish so also were the first persecutors of Christians. And so we could really just stop right there with this verse, but we could make it more universal just in terms of other human beings who do not believe in the Lord. But here, within in the issue of Jews, Jesus said it was going to be this way. In John 16:2 & 3, speaking of Jews who do not believe in Christ, to the true followers, he said, "They will put you out of the synagogue. In fact, your time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a sacrifice to God, they will do such things because they have not known the Father or me." So he's predicting Jewish persecution of followers of Jesus. Now, here in Verse 5, these false brothers so to speak, hated them who trembled at God's Word and they cast them out and they excluded them because of God's name. For Christ's name sake, ultimately, they excluded them, they kicked them out and they mocked them. Now, what they say is interesting, "Let God be glorified that we may see your joy." I don't know what that means, it sounds good to me, but in the context it's clearly mockery. So they're using this kind of religious slogan to mock their faith but look at the outcome. False Worshipers Destroyed by the Lord The false worshippers will be destroyed by the Lord, verse 5 & 6, "Yet they will be put to shame." Verse 6, "Hear that uproar from the city, hear that noise from the temple, it is the sound of the Lord repaying his enemies all they deserve." So in the end, God brings judgment on these mocking adversaries. He did it in the time of Jeremiah by destroying the temple, He did it after the New Testament era in 70AD by destroying the temple again. And so it's a double fulfillment of this prophecy, hear the uproar from the city. Listen to the noise from the temple, what is the noise? What's the uproar? Destruction, wrath. So also is the final condemnation that comes at the end of the chapter. In the new universe, the eternal destination of the wicked, that also a clear display of the wrath of God. True Worshipers Born Instantly by the Lord Now we go back to the true worshipers verse 5:7-9 he says, by contrast, even while the markers are persecuting in the church, the church is exploding in size among the gentiles. There is a nation getting born in an instant, miraculously. Isaiah 7-9, "Before she goes into labor, she gives birth, before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son." Now all you women who are mothers or future mothers, you're like, "Amen, let it be, Lord, minimize my labor pains, oh please." Pray the prayer of Jabez concerning that, "Oh God, minimize my pain." But here we have this incredible image, "'Before she goes into labor she gives birth, before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son. Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet, no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children. Do I bring to the moment of birth and not give delivery?' says the Lord, 'Do I close up the womb when I bring to delivery?' says your God." Now for me, I just am doing all the work that we've done in the book of Isaiah to understand this properly. Jewish people could just say, "this is talking about the restoration, the Jew is back," I think this is so much bigger than that. We've seen this image before. Isaiah 54 talks about a woman Zion who's going to be in labor and give birth to more children than she can possibly imagine. She has to have a bigger tent. Enlarge the place of your tent, you're going to have more children than you can count. So this I think is the same image, this must be friends, the explosive spread of the Gospel from Jerusalem, through Judea and Samaria to the ends of the earth, that's what we're talking about here, a nation born in an instant. And the effects of the curse are gone, the woman Zion gives birth instantly and seemingly with no labor pains, she gives birth to an entire nation in a single day. So we got to go to the beginning of the church age, the day of Pentecost, remember that day began with 120 believers in the upper room ended with 3000, plus 120 believers. What a day. Perhaps the greatest single day in gathering, nothing ever like it of its kind. And who was it that came in? Their geographic spread was laid out for us in Acts 2, 9-11, "Parthians, Medes and Elamites, residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus in Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and converts to Judaism, Cretans and Arabs." All over the Mediterranean, they were there. They had Pentecost came to faith in Christ, a nation born in a single day with no labor. And so the Gospel started spreading like wildfire across that region, across Rome conquered Rome spiritually within three centuries, really short time and it's been spreading ever since. And these Gentile converts that are in view here, being brought in, they become sons and daughters of Abraham. Galatians 3:7, even better. There's sons and daughters of the living God. It is written in John 1:12-13 that Jesus "came to that which was his own, but his own people did not receive him.. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, He gave the right to become children of God. Children who are born not natural descent, nor of human decision or of a husband’s will, but born of God." And so a nation gets born spiritually in an instant. And the sovereign power of God's on display here. Look at verse nine. "'Do I bring to the moment of birth and not give delivery?' says the Lord. 'Do I close up the womb when I bring to delivery?'" There's no miscarriages here. No one... No stillborn. No one dies in labor. When God pours out His Spirit on the elect, they will come to faith in Christ. No one gets left behind. No one gets lost. Jesus said in John 6:37, "All that the Father gives me will come to me and whoever comes to me, I will never drive them away… and I will raise them up at the last day." Isn't that beautiful? So he said, "I'm not going to bring to the point of birth and then they don't get delivered." They're going to get born again because God is powerful. True Worshipers Prosper Richly in Zion Now in verses 10-14, these true worshipers prosper richly in Zion. The river of converts are going to be flowing into Zion, the new Jerusalem. Making her amazingly wealthy. Again verse 10 through 14, "Rejoice with Jerusalem and be glad for her, all you who love her; rejoice greatly with her, all you who mourn over her. For you will nurse and be satisfied at her comforting breasts; you will drink deeply and delight in her overflowing abundance. For this is what the LORD says: 'I will extend peace to her like a river, and the wealth of nations like a flooding stream; you will nurse and be carried on her arm and dandled on her knees. 13 As a mother comforts her child, so will I comfort you; and you will be comforted over Jerusalem. 14 When you see this, your heart will rejoice and you will flourish like grass; the hand of the LORD will be made known to his servants.'" So it's just a river of blessing flowing into Zion from the ends of the earth. These Gentile converts, these adopted sons and daughters of Abraham, adopted sons and daughters of God are going to become delighted in the new Jerusalem, ultimately. Paul says very plainly in Galatians 4 that it's not the Jerusalem that's below. She's in bondage with her children. But we're talking about the Jerusalem that's above. And we'll be delighted in it and we can't wait to see it. This radiant city that will last forever. And this river of converts coming from every tribe and language and people and nation are going to be deeply, richly, comforted by her and they will enrich her with all of their hearts, all of their souls, giving the treasures of their heart to Christ ultimately in worship. And as the sufferings of Christ flow over into our lives, so also the comforts of Christ flow over and we are comforted. And we know we're going to a world where there'll be no more death or mourning or crying or pain. We will be comforted by that and we will see the glory of God in all of those things. Verses 10 through 14, that's what's coming. III. False Worshipers Condemned, True Worshipers Commissioned (vs. 14b-21) But halfway through verse 14, we switch again to the false worshippers that are condemned. The wicked continue to be in view in this chapter, but this is a world of both wheat and weeds. And so look at 14B, "The hand of the Lord will be made known to His servants, but as fury will be shown to his foes." Verse 15, "Behold, the Lord is coming with fire and his chariots are like a whirlwind and he will bring down his anger with fury and there's rebuke with flames of fire." Verse 16, "For with fire and with his sword, the Lord will execute judgment upon all men and many will be those slain by the Lord." God's mighty hand to save will be on display to his servants. They will see how He will save them but they will also see the judgment and wrath will bring to his enemies. So these verses speak with terrifying clarity of the future vengeance of the Lord on the wicked. God's going to pour out His fury on them. The Book of Revelation to which God willing, we're going to go next after next week's sermon on Isaiah one more. But then we're going to begin a journey through the Book of Revelation. And it depicts more clearly than any book of the Bible what this verse is talking about. Like when the sixth trumpet blows in Revelation 9:18. It says "A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths." A third of mankind. Two or three billion people dying at one time. It staggers the mind. And then at the second coming of Christ, Christ comes back with the sword coming out of His mouth. Not literally, but metaphorically because that's the weapon. All he has to do this is to say to His enemies "Be dead and be damned" and that's it. He has that kind of power. And so Revelation 19:21, it says "The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse and the birds came and gorge themselves on their flesh." This is terrifying. This is the terrifying wrath and vengeance of God and it's real and it's coming. And the elect are the only ones who take it seriously. The elect are the only ones that take this seriously and this is part of what it means to tremble at his word. Pagan worship of the enemies is singled out here. Look at verse 17. "Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following the one in the midst of those who eat the flesh of pigs and rats and other abominable things, they will meet their end together." I think this is just talking about the disgusting religions of the world. The religions of the world have led people to do bizarre disgusting things. And I think to some degree, you'll get Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, the animistic religion, the tribal religions, they lead people to do repulsive disgusting things. I think it's Satan's mockery of us who are created an image of God. He can deceive us and get us to think clever thoughts and do degrading, degrading things. But the end will be judgment from the Lord. But then we turn back to true worshippers, in verse 18-21, these true worshippers are commissioned to bring in the nation. So here we have missions again, one last time in the book. There have been many examples of great commissions in the Book of Isaiah. Jesus said this after his resurrection, he rose from the dead, he goes to the upper room. Luke 24: He opened their minds, so that they could understand the scriptures, [including Isaiah] He told them, 'This is what is written: that Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day. And repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in His name to all nations beginning at Jerusalem, you are witnesses of these things.'" it's written. So here we have this prediction plainly. Look at verse 18: "And I, because of their actions and their imaginations, am about to come and gather all nations and tongues, and they will come and see my glory. I'm going to gather them and they're going to see my glory. Look at verse 19: "I will set a sign among them. And I will send some of those who survive to the nations, to Tarshish, to the Libyans and Lydians, famous as archers, to Tubal, and Greece, and to the distant islands that have not heard of my fame or seen my glory. And they will proclaim my glory to the nations." Friends, that's missions. Do you see it in Verse 19? |I'm going to send a remnant out to the ends of the Earth, and they're going to proclaim my glory. I'm going to set a sign among them. Verse 20: "'And they will bring all your brothers, from all the nations to my holy mountain in Jerusalem, as an offering to the Lord, on horses and chariots, and wagons, and mules, and camels,' says the Lord. 'They will bring them, as the Israelites bring there grain offerings to the temple of the Lord in ceremonially clean vessels. And I will select some of them also to be priests and Levites,' says the Lord." So God, I think speaks plainly in these verses about the spread of the Gospel from Jerusalem through Judea and Samaria to the ends of the Earth. And God's going to assemble all the nations and tongues to come and see. But we learn from John 4, Jesus said to the Samarian woman, "Neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father." You don't need to go anywhere geographically. We don't have to make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem. We don't have to go anywhere physically. The coming and seeing is done by faith alone. We come to God when we see the glory of God in Christ, when we hear the Gospel. That's how we come and see. And God's going to set a sign among the nations, and that sign, a sign is like a miracle, something like that, that sign is Jesus, the life of Jesus. From His miraculous conception, the virgin conception, virgin birth, through his sinless life, through the river of miracles that he did, all of the healings, the raising of Lazarus from the dead, the healing of a man born blind, the walking on water, the feeding of the 5,000, and the final capping greatest miracle all, his own bodily resurrection from the dead. I'm going to set a sign among the nations and they're going to believe, they're going to believe. And some of the survivors, the remnant, the Jews chosen by grace, they're going to be sent out. Salvation is from the Jews. So all the 12 apostles were Jews and the apostle Paul was a Jew. And they were sent out of this remnant as messengers. And they're going to be sent out to these distant lands. Look at the small sampling of those nations listed in Verse 19, Tarshish is distant Spain. Put and Lud or Lydia is Northern Africa. Tubal is North in the caucuses, like maybe the Republic of Georgia or on up into Russia. And they're described as archers, they're really good archers. They're warlike and scary, but some of them are elect. I'm thinking you're going to have martyrs that will be necessary to die, but the elect will be brought. The gospel is going to spread. And these Gentiles, what they have not heard about them, they will see. And then what they were not told, they will hear. Isaiah 52:15: They're going to hear about Christ, and they're going to begin their spiritual pilgrimage. And how are they going to come? Well, I know it says on horses and chariots, and litters, mules, and camels. I didn't say that every word was easy to interpret. I've never been on a litter. I have been on a mule. I've never been on a camel. But again, there's that physical language. But we know based on the New Testament teaching, you don't need to go anywhere. And so, this just might talk in symbolic language of the different ways that people come to Christ. They're just different stories, and we're going to hear them on testimony night, or day, or whatever in Heaven, that'll they'll be going on forever. I want to hear those stories. Tell me how you came to Christ. I want to hear those stories. Now, the ministry of the Apostle Paul, they're going to come as offerings, it says, like the Israelites used to bring grain offerings. The Apostle Paul said, "That's what my ministry is like, I'm Apostle to the Gentiles." Romans 15 and 16: With the priestly duty of proclaiming the Gospel to them, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. He's like, "I'm offering the Gentiles up to God." This is a direct fulfillment of the words here. Do you not see the harmony of the Bible? This is staggering. By the way, I knew when I practiced the sermon this morning, I would be laying on you something like 196 ideas. Just go back and listen and look at it carefully. This is a river of truth, this one chapter. It's incredible. And verse 21: "'I will select some of them, [the Gentiles] to be priests and Levites' says the Lord." What does that mean? The resources for the multiplication of the harvest, the harvesting is in the harvest. The future laborers are present harvest field. And so you go and you share the gospel, and those people come to Christ, and then they multiply, and they go out to their own people. Some time ago, I was watching an incredible video called EETaow! It's one of my favorite missionary stories ever, magnificent. And it's a story about New Tribes' missionaries, Mark and Gloria Zook, who went from rural Papua New Guinea. And they led the Moke people to faith in Christ. A careful, patient explanation of redemptive history culminating in Christ, death on the cross, his resurrection. Finally, the Holy Spirit opens their eyes, they understand why the Zook's are there, and they believe in Christ. And they go crazy. And for something like an hour, they start chanting, "Etah, etah. It's true, it's true." And they realize that they're freed from their dark pagan religion, they're free from animism and fear of the spirits, and they are just celebrating their forgiveness and they're going crazy. But that wasn't the end of the story. The sequel is in some ways even more beautiful. They sent some of their own people out to the neighboring villages and some of them went across some language barriers in Papua, New Guinea to reach the next villages. "I will select some of them to be priests and Levites." That's what it says, and they're going to do that priestly duty of proclaiming the Gospel. IV. True Worshipers Eternally Live (vs. 22-24) And so we finish in verse 22-24 true worshippers eternally live, but false worshippers eternally die. This is the new Heavens and the new earth. Verse 22 and 23, "'As the new heavens and the new earth that I WILL make will endure before me,' declares the LORD, 'so will your name and descendants endure. From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD.'" The New Heavens and New Earth Endure Eternally So this text says two things will endure eternally. The new universe will endure eternally, and the people of God will endure eternally. "As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure, so will your name and your seed endure forever. Now this is the universe that God in some ways has yet to make. But I believe it's related to the present universe as our bodies are related to our future resurrection bodies. I think it's a direct analogy. We will be raised from the dead. So there's continuity but difference. This universe will be raised from bondage to decay into a glorious new universe. I believe that. Others think God's going to create a whole new universe. I get that too. Either way, we're going to get a new universe. And unlike this present creation which has been groaning in bondage to decay, winding down, breaking down, constantly dying, always dying. No, those days are over. The living things will live forever and only become more robust and more glorious and more worthy of study as the display of the glory of God that they are. And in the same way, so will His people endure forever before him. Your seed and your name will remain forever, the seed of the people. And their name will remember... Will endure forever. What does that mean? Name is reputation. This is what I think. We'll be discussing one another's name. And what does that mean? What you did, your works. The ones that survive Judgment Day. Your gold, silver, costly stones, not the wood hay straw. That's gone. But we're going to celebrate your crowns and your emblems of faithful service and I'm going to find out your stories, you're going to find out mine, we're going to talk to a multitude greater from anyone could count from every tribe, language, people, and nation and their name will endure forever, and we're going to learn their stories and see how God was glorified in their lives. I could go on about this forever. This is amazing, but we're going to say, "Not to us, to our name, but to Your name be the glory," Psalm 115:1. We're going to celebrate our name as a subset of God's glory and his name. V. False Worshipers Will Die Eternally (vs. 24) Conversely, and here we end. False worshippers will die eternally. Verse 24, "They will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me. Their worm will not die. Nor will their fire be quenched and they will be loathsome to all mankind." Now Jesus, our Savior, used these very words to describe the eternity of Hell, eternal, conscious torment in Hell. That's what He taught. Mark 9:43-48, "If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into Hell where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you sin, then cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than have two feet and be thrown into Hell, and if your eye causes you to sin, then pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown in Hell, where their worm does not die and their fire is not quenched." Jesus is quoting the last verse of the Book of Isaiah. Eternal, conscious torment. That's what the Bible teaches is the future of the wicked. When it says the worm does not die, the worm gnaws on a corpse. It gnaws on the dead body and it keeps eating until there's nothing left to eat, and then the worm dies. Jesus said the worm will never die. So God sustains existence and the fire, it never goes out. Some people teach annihilation, even some good teachers in the church have been deceived in this regard. It's hard to understand, but this is what the Bible teaches. It's what Jesus taught. And it says, "They will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me." Who's they? The worshippers, the redeemed. We will be well aware of them. And why is that? Well, we know in Revelation 14, it says in verses 10-11, "He too will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath and he will be tormented with burning sulfur." Listen to this, "In the presence of His holy angels and of the lamb, and the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever. There is no rest day or night." The holy angels see it happening. It goes up before them, they know what's going on and the Lamb, Jesus knows about it, and it goes up before Him. It doesn't say it openly, but it does here in verse 24, They will go out and look. We will be well aware of them. And there's no grieving, none. There'll be no mourning in Heaven. But this is what's taught, because it's a display, an internal display of the justice of God. And for us, the redeemed, it's an eternal display of the mercy of God, isn't it? And forever we will realize that we were saved by grace. We were saved by mercy. It teaches us in Romans Chapter 9. You might ask, "Why does God create people who end up in Hell? Why would he do that?" Romans 9 is the answer, the chapter that answers, especially verses 22-23. It says, "What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-- prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory." At least in part, they're there for our education, and we learn that we are saved by grace. And when you're in Heaven, seeing Heaven's version of Amazing Grace, you'll know exactly what you're talking about. VI. Applications Alright, applications, we've already done some. I just want to do a few before we go to the Lord's Supper. The first is flee to Christ now. I don't know if I am speaking to any who is as yet un-redeemed, but I expect that I am. This is the time, a window of opportunity for you to drink of God's mercy and grace and favor through Christ. God sent Jesus Christ, his only begotten son, to live a sinless life and die on the cross for sinners like you and me. He shed his blood that we might be forgiven that the wrath of God might be pro-pitied, might be removed from us. All you need to do is trust in Him. Repent of your sins and trust in him. Secondly, for you Christians, humble yourself before God and worship Him. I can't get enough of verses 1-2, "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my foot stool. What kind of house will you build for Me?" I love that, I love to be humbled. Where will my resting place be? Has not My hand made all these things. And so they came into being... This is the one I esteem. he who is humble and contrite in spirit, and who trembles in my word." Just say, "Oh God, make me beautiful, make me holy, make me humble, let me tremble at your word. I cast myself down before you. I think you should do it daily, in your quiet time. Work humility in me, Oh God. Thirdly, despise nominal religion. It's danger for us as it was for them, the outward machinery of religion without any heart behind it. Despise it, it's dangerous, God hates it. He looks behind it and says, "Offering of a bull, it's like killing a man to me, if your heart's not in it." Fourthly, tremble at the fate of the wicked. It's hard to read the final verse of Isaiah. It's hard. It should make us cry. Paul said, "I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart." This is the time to grieve over it, it won't be grieving in heaven, not at all. But now's the time to have sorrow and unceasing anguish, and be motivated in evangelism and missions. Fifthly, embrace missions. This is the story, this is what is happening in the world. He's going to send out messengers to people who have not heard of His fame or seeing His glory, and they will proclaim His glory, He will set a sign among the nations and they'll believe in that sign, Jesus, and have eternal life. We need to be a missions-church, we are, we need to be even more. Send more missionaries, more money, more prayer, more focus, more concern. And we need to be more passionate about evangelism here in the Triangle region as well. Let's share the Gospel. And finally, as I've said many times before, let's yearn for the New Heavens in the earth. Let's set our hearts on things above and things to come. And we get to do that now with the Lord's Supper. For me, when I go to the Lord's supper, I eat it in a kind of an eschatological or end-time perspective. I look forward to feasting with Jesus with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. I look forward to that. And so we're about to partake of this, and as we do, we get to... We get to look upward to God and see his greatness, we get to look inward and see our sinfulness and confess it, we get to look back to Jesus who died on the cross for us. We get to look around to brothers and sisters in Christ who are partaking with us. And we get to look ahead to the second coming and the new heavens, and new earth, and feasting. Now, if you are a believer in Jesus Christ, and you've testified to that by water baptism, you're welcome to come. If not, we ask that you refrain, and we hope that you'll partake next time. Having come to faith in Christ, we would love to have you. But I like to ask the Deacons to come now, I'm going to close the sermon in prayer and we'll partake in the Lord's Supper. Father, thank you for what we've learned through the journey of 66 chapters in Isaiah. It's been overwhelming and amazing and as we have one more chance next week to look at it, give us grace to take in the message. As we turn now to the Lord's Supper, we pray that you would send forth your sovereign Spirit to make this not a bare memorial, not an empty ritual, but something in a genuine experience of God's grace through Christ and His sacrifice in his name, we pray, Amen.
Two Categories of Humans: True Worshipers and False Worshipers Alright, so we come this morning to the second last sermon, I'm going to preach in the Book of Isaiah, but the last chapter of the book of Isaiah, next week, God willing I'm...
Andy Davis preaches a verse by verse expository sermon on Isaiah 66:1-24. The main subject of the sermon is the difference between true and false worshipers.
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HELL Eternal Torment or Complete Annihilation. This article is reprinted in it’s entirety to accompany the .mp3 Jeremy was kind enough to let me make in early 2007-2008 for God’s Message on the Web. It’s common sense theology, which is rare indeed these days. Here is a link to Jeremy and Christine site and there … Continue reading "HELL Eternal Torment or Complete Annihilation?" The post HELL Eternal Torment or Complete Annihilation? appeared first on Gods Message on the Web.
Is the doctrine of eternal torment incompatible with the love of God? What will be the attitude of those unsaved who are sent to hell and later the lake of fire? Join us as we examine these issues from the word of God.
Is the doctrine of eternal torment incompatible with the love of God? What will be the attitude of those unsaved who are sent to hell and later the lake of fire? Join us as we examine these issues from the word of God.
Is the doctrine of eternal torment incompatible with the love of God? What will be the attitude of those unsaved who are sent to hell and later the lake of fire? Join us as we examine these issues from the word of God.
Join Devin & Melissa Pellew as they discuss topics related to biblical theology, Christian apologetics and worldview issues. This week we will be re-airing a debate we hosted on July 15, 2014 on the topic of Hell. Is Hell a place of conscious eternal torment for the wicked after death or is Hell the annihilation of the wicked after death? Joining us to defend the position that Hell is a place of conscious eternal torment for the wicked was Nathanael Taylor, graduate of Biola University (theology), Westminster Theological Seminary (M.Div) and Talbot School of Theology (philosophy). Defending the position of Hell as the annihilation of the wicked was Chris Date, contributor at RethinkingHell.com and host of the Theopologetics podcast. Do the lost cease to exist after the Judgment or will they suffer eternal torment? Join us during this friendly cross-fire debate to hear the arguments.
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A new MP3 sermon from Still Waters Revival Books is now available on SermonAudio with the following details: Title: Eternal Torment for the Wicked: Unavoidable and Intolerable Subtitle: Jonathan Edwards Messages Speaker: Jonathan Edwards Broadcaster: Still Waters Revival Books Event: Audio Book Date: 5/17/2011 Bible: Ezekiel 22:14; Job 21:14 Length: 28 min.
Introduction We're looking this morning at the Parable of the Dragnet in Matthew 13:47-50. Now, all of you have heard the expression, and feel the weight of the truth that time flies by; it's constantly flying by. We have lots of different ways to mark time. I saw one father who took a photo of his daughter at a certain beach, at a certain place, a certain time every year for over 60 years. That's one way to mark time, just by watching your children grow up. All of you probably have a timepiece on your wrist. We mark time in a lot of different ways, and people have marked times through sundials and water clocks, through the pendulum clock, and Swiss movement, and quartz vibrations and all kinds of things. The clock on my wall in my office which is set forever as far as I'm concerned, anyway, for 8:50. There's nothing significant about 8:50. I just got tired of hearing at every quarter hour, half hour, and three quarters of hour the chiming of the bells, a constant reminder of the fleeing nature of time. Time is flying by, constantly advancing. We can use watches, and we can use constellations and stars and the sun and moon to measure the advance of time. But in Matthew 13 and in the Scriptures, we have a different way to mark time, and that is by the advance of the kingdom of heaven. The moving ahead of the gospel of Jesus Christ around the world gives us a different way to measure time. In Romans 13:11 it says that we should understand the present time. The hour has come to wake up from our slumber, because salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. Our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. Time is marching on. What is time bringing us to? It's bringing us to, if we're believers in Christ, our salvation, our yet and future salvation. Salvation from what, and salvation to what? If you're here today as an unbeliever, and if the Lord were willing and I had two hours of your time, I could present an overwhelming case to you of why you should repent and trust Christ as your personal savior. I would bring you to hell for one hour, and then I'd bring you to heaven for one hour. After those two hours, I would sit down with you and say, "Are you ready to trust in Christ?" And you would say, "Absolutely." Frankly, only one of the two would be sufficient, I think. Either one would be fine. But you see, God has ordained in the Gospel a double blessing for those who repent and trust him. Freedom from hell, and eternity in heaven, a double blessing. God has also ordained a double curse for those who reject this message, eternity in hell, and never seeing heaven. Those two hours would change your life. But I know that God is not willing to give you that opportunity to see heaven and hell, rather he's ordained that the simple proclamation of the Word be sufficient for you —that you hear hell explained out of this text, and heaven explained clearly in other texts. That you hear it explained and in the hearing of the word with faith and say, "That's enough for me. Just to hear that this is what the Word of God teaches, now, that's enough for me." The time would be well spent, hearing and believing the Word of God, and that's the purpose of our Savior, Jesus Christ in this parable, the parable of the Dragnet. The Parable of the Dragnet Parables are given for a variety of reasons, but one of them was to explain the nature of the kingdom of heaven. I think in this particular parable Jesus is in a very special way appealing directly to his hearers. I think he's speaking to his own disciples, many of whom made their living as fishermen. They knew what these nets were, they understood, and so He's appealing directly to them. When He first called them to be his followers, his disciples, in Matthew 4:18, as Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, He saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. And then going a little further, he saw two other brothers, James son of Zebedee, and his brother John. They were in a boat with their father Zebedee repairing their nets. So, these four disciples, who part of his inner circle, they actually felt these nets with their own hands, they knew what it was to make a living with these fish and fishermen's nets. Jesus said, "I'm going to call you to a higher form of fishing. Follow me and I will make you fishers of men." They understood. There were different ways to catch fish back then, as there are different ways to catch fish now. One simple way is to take a fishing pole with a line and some bait and drop it into the lake and catch a fish that way. We see this in Matthew 17, when Jesus is describing the need to pay the temple tax, and He talks to Peter about it and says, "We really shouldn't have to pay this tax, because we are sons of the kingdom. You shouldn't have to pay to be in your Father's house. But so that we may not offend them, go to the lake and throw out your line, and take the first fish you catch, and open its mouth, and you'll find a 4-drachma coin there. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours." So that's one type of fishing, a single hook, bait and line. There's also a small one-man casting net. If you could imagine a smaller net, you can put it on your shoulder, and you would cast it out into the lake. If you knew where the schools of fish approach the shore, you could just stand on the shore, and just cast it out in a kind of a spinning motion and hold on to a center line, and there are weights on the edge of this kind of small one-man casting net and they would sink down and then you could kind of pull it up like a purse and whatever was inside the net would be pulled ashore. That's the kind of net that Peter and Andrew were using when Jesus first met them. But then there's this large dragnet, “sagene” is the Greek word. It's this big thing that takes a whole team of fishermen to use it. There are different ways you could do it. You could go out in the middle of the lake with a number of boats and if you could imagine a big, huge net and it was just all in a big circle. And then there would again be weights and floats and they were able to fill it up, or sometimes they would just anchor more one end to the shore and take a few boats out in a big arc and they would move out in a prescribed arc, and curve around back toward the shore and then pull it when the net was full up on the shore. The pulling and the emptying of the net could take a whole team of fishermen as many as two or three hours. Can you imagine what kind of weight that was caught by that kind of a net? — Everything dropped over the side of the boats, different types of fish, some that you liked and some you didn’t, seaweed and all kinds of things were caught by that larger type of dragnet. That's the net that Jesus has in mind here, this large kind of dragnet, that makes a big arc out and then comes back and when it's full, then the fishermen sit down and separate the good fish from the bad. The Separation on Judgment Day What is the point of this parable? He’s zeroing in on the issue of the separation that will come on Judgment Day. It's a point that he's made time and time again. Just as we saw earlier with the wheat and the tares, there's going to be a separation on Judgment Day. The kingdom of heaven at present is in a mixed condition, mixed together, wheat and tares, good fish and bad fish, all kinds of fish in this dragnet. The focal point is the action of the fishermen sitting down on the shore and separating the good fish from the bad ones. The good fish are thrown in the basket, the bad ones are thrown away. The sitting down implies a sense of finality, somewhat like Judgment Day, when it says, "When the son of man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory, and all the nations will be gathered before him and he will separate the people one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He'll put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left." The sitting down really is like a picture of judgment sitting down on that judgment throne. This parable therefore has a promise for we who are believers. The promise is that the mixed condition of the kingdom is only temporary, it's not going to go on forever. We have repeated promises in the Scripture of separation. John the Baptist said that Jesus's winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will clear His threshing floor. He'll gather the wheat into His barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. We've seen earlier in Matthew 13, the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares, and how they will be separated on Judgment Day by the angel, sheep from the goats also and here also, the good fish from the bad. There will be a great separation, the wicked from the righteous on that final day. This goes to a very deep theological root in the nature of God. God is in the business of separating light from darkness. Just as from the very beginning when He created, He separated the light from the darkness, and He called the light good and He called it day. He also separated the water above from the water below, and the dry land from the oceans. He's in the business of separating in this way. When He called out a people for himself, the Jews, they were his chosen people, He called on them through the law of Moses to be a separate people. In the KJB it says, “peculiar people.” Have you ever met peculiar people who are believers in Christ? What that means is a separate people, a people separate from the surrounding nations. They're not to be like the pagans that surrounded them in the Promised Land. The Book of Leviticus is all about holiness, it's about separation. “You must be holy,” says the Lord, “because I am holy, and therefore you're not to eat these things, and you're supposed to wear certain clothes.” There was an outward physical visible aspect to this separation that God called his people to. When they entered the Promised Land, they came to Jericho, and God said the whole city is under the ban of holiness. Everything in that city is mine, it's the first city you're going to conquer in the Promised Land. You must take nothing of the plunder, all of it is mine and if any of the plunder is found in your tent, you, like it, will be swept away, so as you cleave to something evil, as you take it into your tent, into your house, you join yourself with what God has ordained will be swept away. It was Achan who violated this ban and took into his house some of the plunder, a Babylonian robe that looked so attractive to him, and a wedge of silver and some other things. He hid them in his tent, and he was swept away with those forbidden things. So also, during the rebellion of Korah, Dathan and Abiram. When the time for judgment came away, God told the people, move away from their tents, don't touch any of their things. Now, that's a command I would obey. I'd be running from those tents. And imagine if you were Korah, Dathan and Abiram, seeing all the people physically moving away from you. Then suddenly the ground trembled and they were swallowed up. A separation between the righteous and the wicked. This principle is carried over into the new covenant as well. It's not just an old covenant principle, but it says in 2 Corinthian 6:17, the Apostle Paul was speaking to the Corinthian church which was surrounded by a pagan culture, a wicked and idolatrous and immoral culture in Corinth. Paul writes to the Corinthians, "Therefore," he says, "Come out from them and be separate says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing and I will receive you." So also in Revelation 18, speaking of the fall of the great city of Babylon, the symbol of a world system in rebellion against God with worldly things, in Revelation 18:4, "Then I heard another voice from Heaven say, come out of her my people, so that you will not share in her sins. And so that you will not receive any of her plagues." If you are cleaving to that which God has rejected, then you also receive the same condemnation. There's a clinging there, but God calls on his people to be separate. God's own nature calls for this. God is the one who is of holy eyes and cannot even look on evil. In 1 John 1:5, it says of Him, that “God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.” There's nothing evil inside God, and so if you want to be with God, you must be holy and pure and separate. This is the message that we've heard from the start. Also, God's electing, He's choosing in love. There's a picture of this separation in Deuteronomy 7:6, "You are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the Earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This calls also for a separation. We are his chosen people, chosen out from the surrounding world. In the end, God's love for us, his lavish love for us calls for this separation, doesn't it? Aren't you weary of evil? Aren't you tired of the temptations and the struggles? Aren't you yearning for the day when this separation will come and be perfected, and don't you yearn to see your own perfection, your own holiness when at last God's saving work in you has brought, is brought to completion, and you are perfect, holy and blameless in his sight? You yearn for this separation, you know why? Because evil has had its full history. We've seen what it can do, we've been eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for centuries. We see what evil can do, we're worn out with it, and we want to be done with it. We want this separation. We want Him to do it, and the love of God mandates it. Matthew 13:41, "The Son of Man will send out his angels and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil." Weeded out, a clean and a pure kingdom, not mixed anymore, but pure and holy, He will clean it out. In Revelation 21:4, ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away Behold, He’s making everything new.” God makes everything new by this separation that Jesus talks about in this parable. There is here in this text a grave warning that eternal torment awaits the wicked. Look again at verse 49 and 50. "This is how it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." This passage is not merely a promise, but it is also a grave warning to unbelievers. Not merely a promise, but also a warning. Jesus, our loving Savior, warned constantly about hell, did he not? He's not shying away from saying it. This passage is about hell, among other things. He's going to tell the truth. In the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5:22, it says, "Anyone who says you fool is in danger of the fire of hell." He said also in Matthew 5:29-30, "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away, it is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." Jesus warned unbelieving Jews, "The subjects of the kingdom," he said, "Will be thrown outside into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." In Matthew 8:12, "And then to unbelieving Capernaum, He said, "And you, Capernaum," Matthew 11:23. "Will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down into Hades. If the miracles that were performed in, you had been performed in Sodom they would have remained to this day. But I tell you, it'd be more bearable for Sodom on the Day of Judgment than for you." Jesus told the truth; he didn't candy coat it. There was a grave threat hanging over sinful human race, and it's for that reason that He came into the world. He said to the Scribes and Pharisees in Matthew 23, "You snakes, you brood of vipers, how long will you escape being condemned to hell?" The Reality of Hell This is a very direct, very personal grave warning concerning hell. American evangelicals are squeamish about talking about hell. We don't like to talk about it. We want to rearrange the biblical language to make it a little bit easier to communicate about. We are doing no one any service by doing this. We're certainly stepping away from the example of our loving Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Campus Crusade for Christ people are always desiring to reach out with the Gospel, always desiring to bring people to faith in Christ. But their tracks say at the end, unbelievers will simply get what they've always wanted, eternal independence from God. If I'm an unbeliever, that sounds pretty good. “I’ve been living that my whole life and I get to do that forever. No more people, like you, kind of burdening my conscience with the sense of guilt. That sounds good, eternal independence from God. I get what I've always wanted, and those holy rollers they get, I guess, what they always wanted too... And everybody's happy.” That is not what this text is saying. Not at all. I remember a while ago, Mark Twain said he's aware of these prophecies and predictions about hell, but he just doesn't like Christians, so he says you need to go to Heaven for the climate, but to hell for the company. I thought about that and I said, “What kind of company will we have in hell if we're unbelievers?” John Bunyan talked about the company that people who go to hell will have in hell. “You shall have none, but a company of damned souls with innumerable company of devils, to keep company with you while you are in this world. The very thought of the devil's appearing to you makes your flesh to tremble and your hair to stand up right on your head. Not only the supposition of the devils appearing, but the very real society of all the devils of hell will be with you, howling and roaring and screeching in such a hideous manner that you will be even at your wits end and ready to run stark raving mad again for anguish and torment, if after 10,000 years an end should come there would be comfort. But here is your misery here, you must be forever, and when you see what an innumerable company of howling devils you are amongst you shall think this again, this is my portion forever. And when you have been in hell so many thousand years as there are stars in the firmament or drops in the sea or sands on the seashore, yet you have to lie there still forever.” Oh, this one word, forever, how it will torment your soul. I pray that Mark Twain repented before it was too late because this is more accurate concerning the company that unbelievers have to share in hell. The Silent Advance of the Day of Judgment What lessons can we learn from this parable? Well, I have seven. We're going to look at seven lessons on the approaching Day of Judgment. The first is the silent progress, the silent gradual and imperceptible approach of the Day of Judgment. It's very much liked this dragnet that's just kind of moving silently through the water. It's just moving through the water, the fish don't even notice it, except that occasionally they may brush up against it and they swim away. Skittish, it's an odd feeling. Makes them feel strange, and so they'll swim off, never noticing that their swimming area is getting every smaller ever smaller. Silently, imperceptibly, the Kingdom is advancing, the time is drawing near. They can't feel it, they don't know it's coming, but it is. And their swimming area, the volume of water that they have to swim in is ever more constricted until finally they are pulled up onto the shore. This is the silent imperceptible advance of the kingdom. I saw an ad on television for the partnership for a drug-free America. It was talking about the effects of sniffing certain chemicals on the brain. It was a very clear, beautiful rectangular fish tank with goldfish in it. They're all swimming around, but somewhere the water's draining out, and it just... It keeps going lower and lower and the fish are running out of room. That's what happens to your brain starved as it is for oxygen and other things, it just dies. That is the picture I get of this dragnet. Just ever less room until it's done. But you don't feel it. There are unbelievers, around you all the time, but they don't realize how this net is drawing them in, and how suddenly, it will be finished for them. The Measured Scope of Judgment Day The second lesson is the measured scope of the net, the number of people and the amount of time, both of them measured. In verse 48 it says that when the net was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Each dragnet had its own capacity, its own size. At one-point Jesus, overwhelmed the capacity of Peter's net. You remember that the net was tearing because the catch was too much. This dragnet has a certain size to it, there's only so much that it can take. So also, the kingdom has been measured out. There's a certain scope of both time and of people. Do you know that if you're a believer in Christ, your days were numbered before even one of them came to be? Psalm 139:16 says, "All the days ordained for me were written in your book, before one of them came to be.” The same is true also for the unbelievers, for the sinners. Remember what God said to Abraham, concerning the Promised Land that he was walking on at that point. “It's not your time, yet Abraham it's not yours yet.” In Genesis 15:16, it says, “In the fourth generation, your descendants will come back here to this promised land because the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure.” God also therefore has measured out the amount of time for the unbeliever, the amount of sin for them. When that measure is full, it's over. The Amorites weren't counting those days. They thought time would go on forever, but it didn't. This net has a certain scope, a certain scope of time, also a certain scope concerning people. Do you think that babies are born without God knowing it? No, God knit you together in your mother's womb. Every child measured out. Does God not know how many people will be born in the history of the world? Of course he does, and it goes even further than that in Acts 17:26, “From one man, He made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth, and he determined the time set for them, and the exact places where they should live.” God set up the geographical boundaries. The scope of the net has been measured. He knows what He's doing. He also set a time when it will end. In Acts 17:31 when Paul is preaching to the Athenians, he says that God has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the man that He has chosen. He's given proof of this to all men by raising Him up from the dead. Jesus will sit on a judgment throne at the set and appointed time. This net has a certain scope to it, it's not infinite, it's not going to go on forever, there's a certain measured scope to it. The progress of the gospel is also measured out. This is great mystery, but so it is. In Romans 11:25, Paul dealing there with the Jews, concerning their hardening and so many of the Jews are rejecting the Gospel, so few are believing, says Israel has experienced a hardening in part and he says all will continue until the full number of Gentiles has come in. There's a scope to the advance of the Gospel. He knows what He's doing. Everything is measured out. The kingdom advances, silently imperceptibly, but there's a measured scope. He knows what he's doing. The Inclusivity of Judgment Day Thirdly, total inclusion, every single solitary human being will be drawn in by this net. Everyone. No one will be missing. Verse 47, “Once again the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish, and when it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore then they sat down.” They collected the good fish in baskets but threw the bad away. It says literally that all kinds of the fish, every single category or type of fish will be drawn up into this net. People from all walks of life, from every nation, culture and language, people from America, yes, but also from Rwanda, from Bulgaria, from China, from Argentina, will be drawn into this net. Aborigines from the Australian Outback, English royalty from the House of Windsor will be drawn up into this net. People whose mothers sang to them in the Navajo language, and those whose mothers sang to them in English will be drawn up into this net. People who have PhDs and Nobel prizes, and also those who couldn't finish high school will be drawn up into this net. It's all inclusive. Nobody swims through. People whose faces have graced the covers of fashion magazines and those who are grossly disfigured and repulsive to look at. People who are buff and strong and in good health and those that are obese and out of shape will be drawn up into this net. Every single category of people, every single solitary person. John Piper says that hell will be a very diverse place. You know that's interesting. We talk about diversity, saying that America is a diverse culture, and we like that. We celebrate diversity, and our public schools are told to celebrate diversity. Well, hell will be a very diverse place. Romans 2:9, put like this, “There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first, and also the Greek.” God is no respecter of persons in salvation or damnation. The human race, and every ethnic group in it, are united in this great reality. We are all depraved and condemned, we're all lost in the woods together, we're all sinking on the same boat, we're all dying from the same disease. Angelic Action on Judgment Day Fourthly, look at the angelic action. You see how the angels are involved in all this. Verse 49 says, “This is how it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous. And throw them into the fiery furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Once again, the angels are highlighted here as the gatherers and the separators, they're very active. This is actually repeated so often in the end time teachings of the Bible that it has to be, I think, a major theme of the end time teaching. The angels are involved, they're active, they gather, they separate, they bring some to heaven, they throw the others to hell. This is what the angels do. A Simple Separation on Judgment Day Fifth, we see a simple separation. I talked about the diversity of Earth, the diversity of all of the fish caught up into this net, but there will be, for all of that diversity, only two categories on Judgment Day. There will be two and only be two categories. The wicked and the righteous, that's all. There are not three different containers. The fishermen are throwing the fish int two piles, the wicked and the righteous. Other places we call it believers and unbelievers, the weed and the tares, the sheep and the goats, the good fish and the bad fish. Two different categories. Can God really be that narrow-minded? That's not narrow-minded, that's His nature. You're either with Him or you're against Him, he's either for you or he's against you. That's the way it is, it's His nature. There will only be two categories, the wicked and the righteous. Now, let's not misunderstand those terms. Wicked and righteous could trick us into thinking it has something to do with our own good deeds. Maybe perhaps outweighing our bad or something like that, but the fact is, the Bible teaches very plainly that no one is naturally righteous. Romans 3:10, says, “As it is written, there is no one righteous. No, not one.” If that is so, and there were going to be the two categories, the one would be overflowing and the other a null set except one person. Jesus Christ. He's the only one, and if He chose only to live as a display but not as an atoning sacrifice, that would be it. It would be Christ alone, righteous before the law of God, and no one else could stand. We are naturally wicked and naturally would have been gathered that way except for the blessed Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. It is a free gift of righteousness, a free gift, accepted only by faith, a gift of righteousness that comes simply by looking at Jesus dead on the cross and say, "I deserve that he's dying in my place. I'm a sinner, but Jesus is my substitute. Oh, Jesus, be for me, righteousness. Be for me, that asbestos robe that's going to get me through the fires of Judgment Day. Be, for me, my savior be righteousness for me, Jesus, that is the gift of righteousness.” Romans 3 in Verse 22, it says, “This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ, to all who believe, there is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.” God presented Jesus as an atoning sacrifice through faith in his blood, a gift of righteousness through the blood of Jesus Christ. That's one way to understand the righteous. Another is a lifestyle of righteousness that flows out of being a Christian. In other words, once you are saved, once you are justified, you begin to live differently, don't you? You begin to love what's right and hate what's evil. You begin to put sin to death in your life, and by the power of the Spirit you grow in righteousness, every day more and more like Jesus, yearning for Him. So, we can speak of a set of people called the righteous in this world, righteous in position as God sees them, righteous practically in everyday life, not perfectly, so because it says in Galatians 5:5, "By faith, we eagerly await through the spirit the righteousness for which we hope so we're waiting for a perfect righteousness.” We are growing in a practical righteousness. These are the righteous, and everyone else are the wicked. Even if they've done good deeds, even if they think they're good people, if they have not received the free gift of righteousness through faith in Christ, they are wicked in God's sight. The Eternal Torment of Hell And that brings us to the next lesson, the sixth lesson the eternal nature of the torment of hell. This is how it will be at the end of the age [v 49-50]. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Hell is a place of constant torment. Weeping and gnashing of teeth I believe implies both psychological torment and physical torment. Psychological, because I think you have a memory of your life and how you wasted opportunities. How perhaps you heard the gospel and yet were too hard-hearted to repent and believe, and there will be an agony of regret at what you did. You'll remember what you did but it won't do you any good. It won't be redemptive remembering. It will be agonizing remembering, a weeping therefore but also a gnashing of teeth, because there's an actual physical torment. There will be levels of suffering for Matthew 11:22 says, “I tell you; it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you.” There will be different levels of suffering; the lighter and revelation you had in life, and yet did not repent, the worse it will go for you on Judgment Day. That's how it goes... And now I come to a controversial issue, and that is the eternal nature of this torment; that hell is not temporary, it is eternal. In Matthew 25 in speaking of the sheep and the goats, Jesus says, to those on his left, "Depart from me, you who are cursed into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” The same word is used to describe for the sheep "Come you who are blessed by my Father, into the eternal life, the eternal Kingdom prepared for you by my father.” That's the same word. There's a parallelism here, so if the fire of hell is not eternal, neither is the life in heaven eternal. That they are eternal is even clearer in Revelation 14:11, “and the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever there is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image or for any who receives the mark of his name.” No rest day or night; it goes on forever and ever. Clark Pinnock, back in 1990 when people still thought of him as an Evangelical wrote this: “It just does not make any sense to say that a God of love will torture people forever for sin's done in the context of a finite life. It's time for evangelicals to come out and say that the biblical and morally appropriate doctrine of hell is annihilation, not everlasting torment.” Poof, you're gone. That's it. Annihilation. Not eternal suffering, just gone, burned up in the flame. Even John Stott, a faithful teacher in other areas, gets sucked into this error, and says that it will be emotional torment. I find the concept of eternal conscious torment intolerable, and do not understand how people can live with it without either cauterizing their feelings or cracking under the strain. Annihilation, it that what Scripture says? Is that what Jesus came to warn us about? Is that why he died on the cross, that we would not be annihilated? John Piper puts it this way, “There are no more fearful words in the universe than the words, “God is against you.” If infinitely powerful wrath is against us, annihilation would be a sweet gift of grace, which is why those who try to persuade us that annihilation is what judgement means. Annihilation under the wrath of God is not judgment, it is deliverance and relief [Revelation 6], “They call on the mountains and the hills to fall on them and crush them so that they don't have to face the wrath of the Lamb.” No, there is no annihilation of any human being. We live forever with God either for us or against us. All who are in Christ may say, with almost unspeakable joy, “God is for us. Who cares who's against us?” If you are a believer looking into the doctrine of hell gives you an incredible joy in your salvation. Piper, says. “Imagine God meeting Adolf Hitler on judgment day and saying for all of your crimes for all of your willfulness, your rejection of me, your hatred of my people, for all of the slaughter and murder I condemn you, to be instantly annihilated.” It's not biblical, and it's not what's happening, it's not what's going to come. The Blessedness of Heaven Point 7, heaven is a place of eternal blessedness. Free forever from all evil, free forever from all temptation, free forever from the devils of hell and all wicked people who don't love Jesus. Free forever from all of that temptation, free from your own residual sin nature, free, free, free from sin and evil forever. Now that's eternal blessedness. If I could have just two hours of your time, and if God wills and permitted for me to take you on those two trips, you would come to faith in Christ, today, but he will not permit it, because He wants you to hear the Word and believe it and that's all the word needs to be enough for you. Application First of all, know the overwhelming urgency of repentance and faith, for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, eternally perish, but have eternal life. That's why God sent His Son. The offer is open and free for any of you to hear the words I'm speaking. Through faith in Christ alone, be counted as righteous in God's sight. But if you choose not to, you will not be able to say on judgment day, I never knew that this is what was facing me. Yes, you do, because on August 3rd, 2003, God ordained that you sit here and listen to me and you know the truth. You will not be able to say on that day, no one ever told me... No one ever told me. Urgency. Please don't walk out of here without repenting and trusting in Christ. To all of you believers, do you see the urgency of preaching this message to a lost world, the urgency of continuing to send mission teams to East Asia and other places, the places that have never heard the name of Christ. Do you see the urgency that you have this week to warn your neighbors and co-workers and friends and family members who aren't in Christ, that they should flee the wrath to come? Do you see the urgency? And do you see the celebration that you should have every day that God has rescued you from the wrath to come? “Thank you, Jesus, for saving me from this. Thank you that you drank this on the cross for me.” Hell is not a myth, it's not a joke, it's not a punch line. It's not a joke, it's an eternal reality. Do you see the need also to redeem the time? Time is moving on. Our salvation is nearer now that when I began this sermon. Do you realize that? Time is ticking, it's ticking, it's ticking, it's ticking for you. Redeem the time, make the most of it, because God is ordained in time that you will be saved or not. It’s time that does that, and therefore, it says, “In the time of my favor, I heard you, and the day of salvation I helped you.” I tell you now is the time of God's favor, now is the day of salvation. If today you hear His voice, don't harden your heart, come to faith in Christ.
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