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Preached from the 2025 Back to the Bible Camp Meeting in Lucasville, OH, Pastor Evans focuses on the second miracle of Christ's earthly ministry, and what we can learn about miracles through the healing of the nobleman's son.

Professor Bronson is out of the office! So Producer Brit steps in with Host Professor Beck Strah to talk about a $5.6 million dollar payout to the victim of an invasive search and the closure of a women's prison, The Office, the Lucasville Prison Riot from 1993 including the incident that lead to a prolonged lockdown, Warden “King” Arthur Tate, harsh realities, outside protests, inmate unions, the prisoner's demands, not killing COs, and the final settlement, and Ghostlight (2024).

A powerful message preached at the 2023 Back to the Bible Camp Meeting in Lucasville, OH, Pastor Cal spoke on the change we experience as Christians when we're saved, in comparison to the metamorphosis of a worm into a butterfly.

Brian Baer preached a message at the 2023 Back to the Bible Camp Meeting in Lucasville, OH, on the matter of prayer, and being persistent with our communication with the Lord. How sad it would be to give up and stop short of victory. If we are faithful to ask, He'll be faithful to answer-

A powerful message preached at the 2023 Back to the Bible Camp Meeting in Lucasville, OH, Pastor Cal spoke on the change we experience as Christians when we're saved, in comparison to the metamorphosis of a worm into a butterfly.

Brian Baer preached a message at the 2023 Back to the Bible Camp Meeting in Lucasville, OH, on the matter of prayer, and being persistent with our communication with the Lord. How sad it would be to give up and stop short of victory. If we are faithful to ask, He'll be faithful to answer-

On this week's episode, Writer Adam Pava (Boxtrolls, Lego Movie, Glenn Martin DDS and many many more) talks about his writing career, and why sometimes when he writes features, he doesn't always get credited. Tune in for much more!Show NotesAdam Pava on Twitter: https://twitter.com/adampava?lang=enAdam Pava on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1106082/Free Writing Webinar - https://michaeljamin.com/op/webinar-registration/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutogenerated TranscriptAdam Pava:I think that's the main thing is have samples that show exactly what your voice is and exactly what makes you different than everybody else, and what you can bring to the table that nobody else can. I think that's the first thing, but to get those open writing assignments, I think it's just a cool errand to even try because they're just so risk averse to hire anybody that hasn't done it before. I think the better shot that you have is to make smaller things and then they'll seen you've done it. You're listening to Screenwriters Need to Hear This with Michael Jenman.Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin. Welcome back for another episode. I may be retitling the name of my podcast. So I'm, I'm going to be vague for everyone, but I'm here with my next guest, Adam Pava, who's a very talented writer I worked with many years ago on show called Glen Martin, d d s, and he works. We'll talk. I'll let you speak in a second. Pava, you just relax. I'm going to bring you on with a proper introduction because you've worked a lot, lot of features, a lot of animation. So I'm going to run through some of your many credits. Some of them are credited and some of them just are not so credited. We're going to talk about that even though you've done the work. So I think you started early on on shows like Clone High, Johnny Bravo, I'm going to skip around.You worked with us on Glen Martin d d s, but then you've also done Monsters versus Aliens Dragons. I'm going to jump around, but wait, hold on. I'm skipping a lot of your credits, Pavo, a lot of the box trolls you've done, you work a lot with Lord and Miller on all their stuff, all the Lego movies, goblins. You have something in the works with Leica, which is one of the big animation studios which you're attached to direct as well, and then also some other shows. Let's mention My Little Pony dreamland. What else should we talk about? A bunch of the label, it's hard to talk about the credits because so many of 'em are things that are either in production or development that they're not supposed to talk about yet, or they're things that I was uncredited on. And so it's a weird thing.And why are you uncredited? How does that work? It's super different from TV and movies. So back when I worked in tv, I did tv. I mean, back when we worked together it was like what, 10, 15 years ago? Something like that. But I did TV for the first decade of my career and everything you work on, you're credited, even if you're just like the staff writer in the corner who says three words and doesn't make, get a joke into the script. You're one of the credited writers. Movies are a different situation. It's like one of these dirty secrets of Hollywood where they always want to credit one writer or a team of writers. Sometimes it'll be two writers that get the credit if both of 'em did a huge chunk of the work. But the thing that usually happens these days on big studio movies anyway is they will go through three or four writers over the course of the years and years of it being in development and all those writers who worked on it before the final writer or sometimes just the first writer and the last writer will get credit and all the ones in the middle won't get credit.Or it's like the W G A has these arbitration rules where it's like, unless you did a certain percentage of the final shooting script, you're not going to get credit at all. So even though the guy who brings catering gets credit and every person on, so will you arbitrate for credit or do you go into these projects knowing that you're not going to get credit? Usually I go in knowing that I'm not going to get credit or I will. Sometimes there'll be a situation. I did about a year's worth of work on the Lego movie, the first Lego movie, and Phil and Chris, Phil Lauren and Chris Miller who directed that and wrote the first draft of the script and the final draft of the script. They're buddies of mine and so I'm not going to arbitrate against 'em and I want them to hire me in the future and I love them and they really wanted, they're written and directed by title, and so of course I'm not going to arbitrate in that sort of situation.And also to be fair, I don't think I would win that arbitration because they wrote the first draft and it was already the idea and it was brilliant and it came out of their minds and it was awesome. And then they had me do four or five drafts in the middle of there where I was just addressing all the studio notes and all the notes from the Lego Corporation and all the notes from Lucasville and all that kind of stuff while they're off shooting 21 Jump Street and then they come back. So you were just doing it to move it closer and then they knew they were, yeah, exactly. They knew they were coming back onto it and they were going to direct it and they would do another pass. They would do multiple passes once it goes into storyboarding once it's green lit. So I was just trying to get it to the green lit stage, so they had written a draft and then I did a bunch of drafts addressing all these notes and then we got a green lit off of my drafts and then they came back on and they started the storyboard process and directing process.And the story changes so dramatically during that process anyway that the final product is so far removed from the drafts I did anyway, but it was a valuable, my work was needed to get it to that point to where they can jump back onto it. But very little of that final movie is anything that I can take credit for and I wouldn't want to take credit away from them on that. So I do a lot of that kind of work. Did they have other writers that worked on Legos movie as well, or just you? On the first one, it was them and me. There was these two brothers, the Hagerman brothers who had done a very early treatment, but that had set up the original idea for the movie of Allego man sort of becoming alive. So they got a story by credit, and then they definitely always have a stable of writers that they bring in to do punch up work and to just watch the animatic and give notes and stuff like that.So there's a whole bunch of people that are contributing along the way. Funny, they come from tv, so they really run it. They run it as if they're still on TV a hundred percent. They have their writers. And so I've gotten to work on a lot of their projects as one of their staff writer type people basically is the idea. So it's all uncredited work, but it's great work. They're such great guys and you're working on really cool things every time. And so now there's a new, in the last few years, the W G A started this new thing called additional literary Material credit. And so if Lego were to have come out now, I think I would've gotten that credit on it, but at the time, that didn't exist, so I got a special thanks. And how did you, oh, really? Okay. And how did you meet these guys?They gave me my first ever job before I knew you. I mean, I had written a movie script that was an animated movie. This is like 99 or 2000. I was just out of grad. I wrote it while I was in grad school. And Wait, hold on. I didn't even know you went to grad school. Did you study screenwriting in grad school? Yeah, I went to U S C screenwriting. Oh, I did not. I hide it from you. Why do you hide it? For me? I don't know. It's a weird thing where I feel like a, it's like I was in this weird secondary program that wasn't part of the film school. It was the master's of professional writing and screenwriting. And so people would get confused and I didn't want to lead them on, but also I just feel like it got me to a place and then I was like, I didn't want be part of a good old boys club where people are just hiring U S C people or whatever.That's the whole point of going to USC for Yeah, people ask me, should I go to film school, get an M F A, and my standard answer is, no one will ever ask for your degree. No one caress about your degree. The only thing they care about is can you put the words on the page that are good a hundred? But why did you, but what it did offer me, and I'll get back to how I met Phil and Chris in a little bit, but this is a good side conversation. It gave me an opportunity to do some internships on a couple of TV shows. And that was super, super valuable. So when I was at U SS C, it was 99 and 2000, and so I interned my first year on a little show called Friends, which was still on the air. I was on the air at the time.I was just the stage intern. So I was moving the chairs around during the rehearsals and fetching coffees and getting frozen yogurt for cast members or whatever, just shitting my pants, trying to be a normal human being around all these superstars and was not, I wouldn't say it was the best experience of my life. It was definitely one of those things where I was like, everybody was super intimidating and everybody was really busy and the cast were in the middle of a renegotiation, so they're all showing up late. It just felt like everyone was angry the whole time. And I was like, dunno if I want to work in tv. But there was one writer's assistant who was just like, yeah, because on the stage you're a writer, you need to be in a writer's room, you should be an intern in a writer's room.And I was like, oh. And then so I was able to get an internship on Malcolm In the Middle, which had just sold, it was in his first year, so it was a summer show. So I jumped onto that in the summer and was able to do that. And then in that writer's room, I was like, oh, these are my people. These are actual, wait, you were an intern. They let you sit in the writer's room one. It was like for doing all, getting the lunches and making the coffee and all that stuff. Linwood was nice enough to let me just observe in the room for one day a week just to, well, if I didn't have other stuff I needed to get done. So it was super nice as long as I didn't pitch or say anything and I was just, I never would.But it was cool to, that experience showed me that show was so well written and it was so tight and those writers were all geniuses or I thought they were all geniuses. And then I'd go in the room first, I would read the scripts and I would think, oh my God, I'd never be able to do this. And then I got in the room and I'm like, oh no, they're just working really, really hard and banging their head against the wall until they come up with a perfect joke. And then by the time it's done, it seems like it's genius. But it all was just really hard work, really long hours to get to that place. So that taught me like, oh, maybe I can be one of those people. If I'm just one cog in this room, I could do that. And so that gave sort of the confidence to do that.So I had done those. Getting back, I can loop back into the Phil and Chris thing now because this actually connects really well. I had done those internships. I graduated U Ss C and I had this script that I'd written as my final project or whatever, and it was an animated movie, and I thought you could just sell an animated movie, but I didn't know, they didn't teach me this in grad school that at the time they developed 'em all. It was like only Disney and Dreamworks were doing 'em at the time. This is 2000. And they just hire directors and sort of were an artist in-house to sort of create the stories or back then that's how they would do it. And so I sent it to some agents and the response was always like, Hey, you're a really funny writer. This is really good.I can't sell this. I don't know anybody that buys animated movies, but you should write a live action movie if you can write it as good as this. And so I wrote another movie that was Live Action, but it was silly. It seemed like it might as well have been an, I go back and read it now and I'm like, it's basically an animated movie, but it didn't say it was animated, it was live action human beings. And I submitted it to a small boutique agency at the time called Broder. I don't know if you remember them, Broder Crow, we were there. Yeah. And so Matt Rice was an agent there at the time, and he had on his desk, his assistant was Bill Zody. I dunno if you know him, he's a big name agent now, but he was an assistant at the time.He read that script that I wrote and was like, oh, you know who this reminds me of these other clients that Matt has, Phil and Chris. And so he passed it on to those guys and they were looking for a writer's assistant on Clone High because they had just sold their first TV show. They were a young hotshot writers that were just deal. And so I met with Phil and Chris, and they hired me as the writer's assistant on Clone High, which was like, they were the same age as me. They were just like, we don't know what we're doing. But they're like, you've been in a writer's room, you've been knock on the middle and I friends and you, I didn't know anything. I didn't know what I was doing at all, but it said on my resume that I had had these experiences.So they thought I would be a good writer's assistant for that reason. But they were the coolest dudes from the very beginning. They were just like, you're the writer's assistant, but also you should pitch in the room. You should act like you're another writer. We have a really small staff, we have seven writers, and you're going to get episode eight. I mean, it was crazy. They were just like, they gave me a lance and that never happens anymore. How did they get an overall deal when they came? Oh, it's the craziest day. So they went to Dartmouth, they made each other at Dartmouth and then they were doing cartoons while they were there studying animation. And one of Phil's, I think it was Phil, I think it was Phil won the Student Academy Award for a student film that he did. And it was written about in the Dartmouth Alumni magazine.And there was a development exec at Disney whose son went to Dartmouth and read that article and was like, Hey, called them in their dorm room. And we're like, if you guys ever go out to la lemme know. We'll set a meeting. And they literally, the day after they graduate just drove to LA and then called 'em up and we're like, we're ready to get hired. And it worked and they got hired, it worked. They got hired just to do Saturday morning stuff, and they did that for a little bit and everything they were doing was too crazy for Saturday morning, but it was like Disney. But then Disney was like, well, you can start developing stuff for adult Disney or for primetime stuff. And so they came up with the idea for Clone High, and it originally sold to Fox as a pilot to be after the Simpsons or whatever, but then it didn't get picked up and then M T V picked it up and then they had a show.So it's crazy what a trajectory their career has. Yeah, I know. And now they're running Hollywood. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Yeah. They were good guys to meet right away mean honestly, it was like to become friends with them and just to ride their wake and get some of their sloppy seconds and some of the stuff that they don't want to deal with, it's honestly, it was great. Did they call you a lot with stuff like that? Hey, we don't want to do this. It's yours less now than they used to. I mean, there was a point where I was one of their stable guys that they would call. I think they have met a lot of people in the 20 years since then, but early on it was like, I mean, even their first movie was Claudio with a Chance of Meatballs, and they brought me on to help rewrite the third act at one point.And it was just from then on, they would always send me their scripts and just add jokes or to give feedback or whatever, and they've always been like that. And then I've noticed the last maybe six or seven years as they've gotten these huge deals and all their projects are now just these massive things, it's not quite the same relationship where they would just text me or email me and be like, Hey, read this. Now. It's like they have a whole team of people. They have a machine now, but we still are friends. And then things will come up where they'll hire me for things here and there. I wonder, honestly, I don't want to make this differe about them, but it's so interesting. I kind of think, I wonder what it's like to be that busy. It almost feels like, oh my God, I'm too busy.They're so busy. They're the hardest working people I know. It's like people always wonder how this stuff comes out so good. And it's not that, I mean honestly, it's just good because they stay up later than everybody. They never stop tinkering with things. They're never satisfied. They always think the next thing they do is going to ruin their career. And so they run on this fear that propels them that, I mean, they harness it. It's not like it's a secret. They know that this is what makes them great and utilizing all their friends utilizing, they're the kind of people that are the best idea in the room wins. If you could be the PA or the head of the studio and if you have a great idea, they're like, let's try it. And they also try a lot of stuff that doesn't work and they're given the leeway to go down a lot of dead ends and then realize that's not the answer, and then back up and then try it again and try it again and try it again.And that's how a lot of animated movies are done. And so it drives everybody crazy, but also creates amazing product. That's what, because I've interviewed a couple of guys who worked at dreamworks, which John Able who does a lot of the kung movies, and he describes it the same way. I was like, wow, it's so different from writing live. It's so different from writing live action. The whole experience sounds exhausting to me. Do you find it the same? Yeah, I mean when I first started in it, I was like, this is ridiculous. Why don't they just write a script and then shoot the script? And then over the years, I've learned to love the process. I mean, I was frustrated early on when I would realize how much gets thrown out and how much changes and how much. It's just, it's out of the hands of one writer.And I think a lot of it is also just ego thinking that you could do it better than everybody. And then once I embraced, oh no, you have a bunch of really brilliant storyboard artists and you have a bunch of really brilliant character designers and head of story and a director and all these different people who, and layout artists and even the animators themselves, they all add something so vital and valuable to it, and you learn stuff from each of their steps and then you're just given the leeway to be able to keep adjusting and adjusting until you get it right. And that's why animation comes out so much tighter often than live action is just because you've been able to see the movie so many times and keep tweaking and tweaking until you get it right. Now there is a point where sometimes I feel like you can take that too far and then it just becomes like, oh, we had a great version, four drafts to go and now we've lost our way, or we're just spinning our wheels or whatever.See, that's why I get lost sometimes. I've been in shows where you rewrite something to death and then someone says, we should go back to the way it was, and I'm like, what was the way it was? I don't even remember anymore a hundred percent, and I've stopped ever thinking You can do that. I used to think I would hold out hope though they'll realize that the earlier draft was better. They'd never do. It's like everybody forgets it, and then you just have to have the confidence to be like, well, we know we'll come up with something better together that it'll be from the collaborative mind of all of us. And then I think now I've seen actually the last few years, there's a little bit of a tightening of the belt budgetarily, and that leads to faster schedules. And so instead of having seven times that you can throw the story up from beginning to end on the storyboards, like the reels and watch this movie, you can only do it three times or so.That gives you a little bit more of a window of like, okay, we got to get it right in three drafts or whatever, in three storyboard drafts. And who's driving the ship then in animation? Is it not the director in this case, it's Lord Miller, but they're the writers. Well, Lord Miller are often the directors, and so when they're the directors, they're in charge when they're the producers, they're in charge When they're on the Spider Verse movies, for example, they're the writer or Phil writes them and then they hire directors. But Phil and Chris are the producers, but they're sort of like these super directors. They're very unusual. Yeah, it's not, yeah, that's an unusual situation. But other movies somebody do at dreamworks and there's somebody do at Leica Leica, it's like the director and the head of the studio, Travis Knight, who it's his sandbox and it's his money because he's a billionaire that funds the studio.He has the ultimate say, and so the directors are always working with him, but it's always collaborative. It's always like you get in a room. When I'm working at Leica, it's always like me, the director and Travis trying to figure it out, and he's trusted me to be, I feel like he doesn't trust a lot of people. He is kind of closed off in that way, but once you earn his trust, you will be in that room and you'll figure it out together or whatever. But every movie's different, and sometimes I'm on a movie just to help fix it for a little bit, and then I'm just a fix it person that comes in for a little bit. Sometimes I just add jokes. Sometimes I just, there's been movies where it was a mystery animated movie and they're like, can you just rewrite the mystery?I was like, what a weird assignment. But I had three weeks still. But in this case, they're calling you. How are you getting this work? Just reputation, they're calling you out of nowhere? Mostly now it's reputation. I mean, sometimes I'll be submitted to it. I mean, the first time it's always like you have to be submitted. And I mean, I can tell you how I got hired on box rolls. That was a big breakthrough to me. I mean, it was after I'd done, so Lego was obviously just having known and worked with Phil and Chris forever, and then they got hired on Jump Street, and they needed somebody that they trusted to dear the ship for a while while they're gone. And so I was able to do that, and that was a huge big break. It was like, you couldn't ask for that. I just, I'm the luckiest guy in the world.But after that, at Leica, they had a draft of a movie before it was called box Rolls, it was called Here Be Monsters, and it had been in development for years and years and years and gone through a bunch of writers and they hadn't quite figured it out. It was kind of a mess. It was a big sprawling story that had a lot of moving parts to it, and they had heard that on Lego, I was able to harness a lot of the crazy ideas that Phil and Chris had and put it into a structure that made sense. And so they asked me to come in and do the same thing, or before they even did that, I did a punch up. I got hired to do a punch up on that movie, and I knew that it was going to be a huge opportunity to impress them.I really, really wanted to work at Leica because at the time, they had only had Coralline come out and I loved that movie. And then I had seen maybe ParaNorman had come out or it hadn't come out yet, but it was about to, whatever it was, I knew it was a new animation studio doing really unique original stuff, and I got asked to be part of this round table, and it was all these heavy hitter Simpsons writers. It was like J Kogan and Gamo and Pross, all these people that you're like, these are all legends. They've done a million shows and they get hired to do punch up all the time. That's like their bread and butter, right? I'm not so sure anymore, but okay, no, no, but this is in 2011 or whatever.And I was like, I am going to take this script and analyze it and come up with character moments and come up with, I'm not going to be able to compete with those guys with the best joke in the room necessarily. I'll have good jokes to pitch, but I'm going to have like, oh, what if we adjust the character to be more like this? And where those guys were all, not those guys specifically, but the room in general, these were all guys who were maybe reading five pages ahead and then pitching off the top of their head. And I spent a couple of days writing jokes in the margin and ideas in the margin, and I killed in that room. I got a lot of stuff in and to the point where a few months later when they needed a big overhaul, they asked me to come in and do sort of what I had done on Lego, just take this big thing and hone it down into, so it was a rewrite job at the beginning, and then it turned into three years of working with the director in the studio to change that story.We threw everything out and started over basically a couple times over the course of those years end up, but how are you get paid? Are you getting paid on a weekly scale? Because I don't know how that would work. Do you get paid? It starts off with a draft and then it'll be a typical thing like a draft in two rewrites, but you quickly run through those and then they keep needing your work. At least they're not getting free work out of you. They're picking no, then it turns into either a day rate or a weekly rate, and that's where I bought my house.I made so much money on my day rate. They would literally just, Leica would call me and just be like, oh, we're going to record an actor in a few days. Can you just go through all their scenes and write three or four alts for every joke? Just have a bunch of stuff. And I would spend a few days doing that, and then a day rate, you get paid really, really well, that stuff adds up. Or they would be like, we just need one more pass on the third act, or we just need to go through the whole script and remove this character. And so all these little weekly assignments, and then you're just like, that was very lucrative doing it that way.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my videos and you want me to email them to you for free, join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos. These are for writers, actors, creative types. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you and it's absolutely free. Just go to michaeljamin.com/watchlist.Adam Pava:You usually, because done so much animation and it sounds like you always set out to do animation, is that I did set out to do it, and then I didn't set out to only do it. I thought I could do both, but you kind of get pigeonholed a little bit. It's hard. I've gotten hired to write a few live action movies, but there were always a live action movie that had an animation element to it. It could be a hybrid movie or be a family movie that they think, oh, because you've done family work, you can do this. But nobody would ever hire me to just do a horror movie or whatever. And I don't know if I'd be the right guy for that either. I think my sensibility tends to be more animation based, but also, I think movies are such a different thing than TV where there's like, they're so expensive.If you're spending $80 million or whatever, you want to hire somebody that's done it before. So it's really, really hard for the studio bosses or even the lower level executives to fight to hire you if you've never done that kind of thing before. And so you get, it's not pigeonholed. I love doing it and I love the work, but it's also, I get why I get hired for certain things and not for other things. But also I feel super lucky because animation is one of the only parts or the only genres of film that has not shrunk over the years. Movies in general, they've stopped making live action comedies almost completely, except for stuff on streamers. They don't make rom-coms anymore. They barely make action comedies. It's like they make superhero movies and Star Wars movies, but then animation movies are evergreen. And so I feel really lucky that I sort of fell into this area that there is still work to be had.So yeah, I mean, you really have put together a really pretty impressive career. And I know not all your credits, not all your work is credited, so what I mean? Yeah, well, it's either uncredited or there's so many projects that died Vine. So it's like you read my, I said you that list of credits and it's like I'm looking at it over earlier today. Oh, it's just a list of debt projects, but that's expected. When you go into it, you go, okay, they're not all going to go. That's expected. It's all right. I was looking at my, I was organizing my, it's a strike, so I have time to do these things, organizing my folders on my computer and putting everything in, and I had over 150 folders of each. One is its own project, and not all of those are work that I've done.Some of them are like, I got sent this thing to pitch on, and then I had one meeting and it went away. And some of 'em I did a few weeks on, or some of 'em I just did day work on, but 150 projects over the years. Some of 'em I'm on for a year or two or three years. So it's insane. And so the hit ratio is super low of, I got really lucky when I transitioned out of TV and went into movies. It was like the first two things. Well, I sold a thing to Dreamworks that didn't get made, but then right after that, it was Lego and box trolls. They both came out in 2014, and I worked on both of 'em, and I was like, oh, this is going to be easy. You work on a movie and then it comes out and then it's cut to 10 years later and it's like nothing else is my name on it has come out.I've worked steadily. I've worked really well. I've been very happy. But it's definitely, it's a different thing than TV where you're just working and getting credited all the time. Well, yeah, but it also sounds like, I don't know, it sounds like to me, maybe I'm wrong. It sounds like you don't need to hustle as much doing what you do. No, I feel like it's the opposite because on TV you can get on a show and you're running for years, but on a movie you always know what's going to add, but they're coming to you. People are coming to you with offers, in other words. Oh yeah, sometimes. I mean, yes, the ones that end up happening, that's true. But there's so many that I'm just on a list at the studio, but I'm in a bake off with six other writers and I don't get it.So you put a lot of work so people don't know what to bake off is. So this is when you have to pitch to get the job and you have to put in several weeks of work. That's the worst. That's just the worst. And that's the majority of my life. Oh, is it? That's like, yeah. Yeah. So there's definitely, I mean, between Phil and Chris and Laika, I have, and a little bit of Dreamworks now. I'm doing my third movie for them right now. So that's pretty good over 10 years, three movies. But other than those places, it's always like you're getting sent stuff, but that doesn't mean they want you. It just means they want to hear a bunch of takes, and so you have to try to fight for the job if you really want it. Or I used to spend months or maybe eight months coming up with the take and having every detail worked out.And then I realized over time, they don't actually want that. They want a big idea and some themes and some ideas of what the set pieces are, and they want to know that you, I mean, honestly, it's, I don't even recommend that young writers go out for them because you're not going to get it anyway, because they're always going to go with somebody that has done it before. Especially, I mean, not always, if you might be the rare exception, but so much. Well, then what do you recommend to young writers to do? Dude, I don't know. I mean, I think you have to write great samples. I mean, I think that's the main thing is have samples that show exactly what your voice is and exactly what makes you different than everybody else, and what you can bring to the table that nobody else can.I think that's the first thing. But to get those open writing assignments, I think it's just a fool's errand to even try, because they're just so risk averse to hire anybody that hasn't done it before. I think the better shot that you have is to make smaller things, and then they'll see you've done, it's not even try to get these big studio things, get a small indie thing if you can, or make your own thing if you can, or just try to work your way up in a smaller way. I mean, all the big name directors out there all started on small indie movies. And I think that's got to be the same for writers now too. So many fewer movies. Is there anything that you're doing on the side just for the love of it that you're creating for yourself? Or is it, I haven't, in the last few years, I haven't.I've just been busy with work, but during the pandemic, I had plenty of time. Nobody was buying movies, and I am wrapped up on something and I had an idea that I thought was going to be my next big sale, and that it was an idea about a virus that went, it was a comedy thing, but it was this idea where it was sort of based on the idea that Christmas is getting longer and longer every year, where people put up their lights in decorations sooner and sooner, and you start seeing the stuff for sale in October or whatever. And so I was like, oh, it felt like Christmas was a virus that was slowly taking over the world. And I was like, what if it's a zombie movie, but Christmas is the virus? And so it was sort of a Christmas apocalypse thing where Christmas takes over the world and one family didn't get infected and had to fight back.So I was like, this is going to be a big seller. And then I was like, and then Covid hit, and it was like nobody wanted to buy a thing about a virus taking over the world, so I literally spent the pandemic. To answer your question, I wrote it as a novel. Instead, I wrote it as a middle grade novel, a y, a novel. Did you publish it? Not yet. We're trying. So we're out to publishers, and it took a while to figure out literary agents, which are very different world and everything, but the idea is to hopefully sell it as a book and then be able to adapt it as a feature. But yeah, it was so fun to write, and it was so freeing to not be stuck in 110 pages and to, I mean, I already had the whole thing outlined from the pitch when I was going to pitch it, so I knew the structure of it, so I just kept it as the structure of a movie, but I expanded on it and got more into the character's heads and that kind of stuff.But I had such a fun time writing that, and I was just like, man, someday when the work dries up, I am going to look forward to writing novels instead. And oh, yeah. The funny thing is when you describe the literary word going out to publishers, it's not that different from Hollywood. You think It is. It's not. It's the same hell. Oh, absolutely. But you and I haven't had to deal with breaking into Hollywood in a long time. And then in the literary world, they're like, oh, you've written movies. We don't care. We don't care at all. So it's starting over. And U T A tried to help a little bit, but they're like, we don't really know what to do. And then, so it's, I've been, my manager has been introducing me to editors and stuff, literary editors, and they've been really receptive, and it's been good trying to find the right one and the person I jive with. But it's very much like, oh, you're starting from scratch all over again. And for less money, no money. I mean, literally, I don't know how you would make a living off of this. I mean, I think we're spoiled a little bit, but what was the money they were telling you? Can you say, I don't want to say you don't, but it was basically about, it was less than a 10th that I would get paid on a movie.It was about my weekly rate. So I was telling you, I do weekly jobs on movies, and it's like if I do a weekly on a studio movie or I could sell a novel, or you could work five years on a novel, and I'm like, oh, this is not a way to support a family, but it was really fun. Someday when I'm just doing it for fun, I would love to do it. Wow, how interesting. Wow. So your best advice, because you're not an animator, you're not even an artist, are you? No, I don't draw or anything. I just love animation. I just always loved animation. So I don't know. I think when I was in seventh grade when the Simpsons started, and that blew my mind, and I was like, I remember telling my dad, I think I want to write on this. It was the first time I recognized, oh, people are writing these jokes. It was very, I think, more self-aware than most comedy was. And I was in junior high and I was just like, I want to be a writer on a show like this. I never was a writer on that show, but a bunch of other stuff.Now, as far as directing, because I know you're attached to possibly direct this project, where does your confidence come from that to direct? I mean, I don't know if I have confidence in it. I mean, I would want to co-direct it. In animation, you often get paired with another, if you're a writer, you'd get paired with an experienced animation director who comes from the visual side. So either an animator or a store wear artist or visual development artist. And I just feel like some of the projects I've been doing, you sort of act as more than just a writer anyway. You're sort of meeting with the creative heads all the time, making these big decisions that affect the projects. And at a certain point, I'm like, well, if I write something, that project that I, that's at life that I was attached to, it probably won't even happen at this point.It's been a few years, and it's kind of sitting there waiting for Travis to decide if he wants to make it. But it was a personal project to me, and it was like this would be the one that I was like, I would really want to see this all the way through. And I'm sure at that studio at this point, he's, Travis himself who runs the studio, is kind of directing all the latest projects anyway, so I would be co-directing with him. And so he would really be in charge, and I would just be, they're up in Seattle, right? Portland? Yeah, Portland or in Portland, yeah. So do you go up there a lot for Yeah, when I'm on a project, so usually it's like if I'm just writing it before it's green lit, which is most of the time I'll just fly up there for meetings just to get launched or whatever, and then go back up after I turn it in to get notes. But if it's in production on box trolls, and then there's another upcoming one that I did a bunch of production work on, they'll fly me up there to work with the board artists and stuff. And that's a crazy, that place is so nice.It's like a wonderland. I mean, it's like this giant warehouse downstairs that they have all the stages and they're all covered with black velvet rope, I mean black velvet curtains. So to keep all the light out and everything. And that's where they're moving all the puppets and everything, the stop motion. And then upstairs it's like the offices, and it just feels like a corporate office building with cubicles and stuff. It's very weird. But you go downstairs and it's like there's people animating, there's this huge warehouse where they're building all the props and they're like armature section where they're adding all the skeletal armature to the You never went with us to, because Kapa was like that in a cup of coffee in Toronto when we did Glen Martin. Yeah, it was amazing though. Similar. But Kapa is doing it on a budget, and these guys are spending so much money, it's not a viable way to make money to make these animated stop motion animated movies.They don't do it to make money. He does it. He loves it. Oh, really? Oh my gosh. Yeah, because Travis Knight is the son of Phil Knight who've gone to Nike, so he's got sort of a lot of money, and it's his hobby shoe money. He's got shoe money, but he is a brilliant animator. He is a super smart, interesting dude who wants to make things that are different than anybody else. And so it's an amazing place to work because nowhere else do you ever have the conversation of like, oh, we could do this if we wanted to do it, where more people would see it, or we could do it this way, which is cool and we want to do this. It's fun and weird.Not that he doesn't care about an audience, he does care about an audience, but it's not most important to him is making something that's awesome to him for the art. And so it's a very different way of looking at things. But I've been in situations there where it's like we're doing upstairs, doing a rewrite with me and the director changing the whole third act or whatever, and then I go downstairs and just tour the stages and the workshops, and I'll meet a puppeteer who's like building this giant puppet who's telling me this is the biggest puppet that's ever been created in Stop motion, and here's the 17 different places where I can articulate it. And I'm just thinking like, dude, we cut that yesterday upstairs. Oh no. And he's been working on it for a month. Oh, no. But I can't say anything. I'm just sort of like, oh, yeah, that's awesome.It's so great. You're doing great work. Anyway, I'm going to get back upstairs. That's so heartbreaking. But they burn through so much money just doing it all by hand. It's so crazy. But it's so beautiful, so I love it. And so you were literally upstairs, they gave you a small office and you just start typing? Yeah, that's literally, I mean, usually when I'm there, it's like they just put me in some random cubicle that nobody else is using or it's not a cubicle, a little office that is or whatever, somebody office. And you'll stay there for a few days or a few weeks or what? Yeah, exactly. Depending on how much they need me. So it either be a few days or a few weeks. And then on box rolls, I was up there. I would be up there for a week, relining some stuff, and then I'd come back home for two weeks and write those pages up.And I mean, I'd be writing in the evenings after the meetings and stuff too, while I was up there. But when we are rewriting, it's a train that's moving and it's like the track is you're running on a track and you got to keep pressure. What did you think of staying there in Portland? Did you like it? I did it. It's hard because my family's here and life is here, but if that movie had gone that I was attached to Coder Act, we were planning on moving there for that for three or four years. That's how it would take. Interesting. Would you have sold your house here or just rented it out? I'd have rented it out, I think. Interesting. Yeah, you, it was like we were having all these conversations, and then it's the longer it goes, we're like, that's probably not going to happen.We don't have to think about this right now. How interesting. That's so key. It really takes that long, man. Oh yeah. They're so long. And then also, it's like there is this weird thing in animation where it's not uncommon for a movie to go through two or three directors over the course of its many years in production. So it's like, why? I know. Just because they're beasts. And sometimes in the same way that you're changing the story so many times over the years, sometimes you make such a drastic change that it's no longer the vision of that director, and it's just not a right fit anymore. And I've seen that happen on a lot of movies that I've been on. I mean, Boxtrolls didn't end up with the same two directors that it started with. One of the two stayed on it, but the other one didn't.Oh, no, this sounds very frustrating to me. It sounds It does. And then other movies up there have gone through different directors, and so I was like, even if I had gotten hired as the director, I was in the back of my head. I always knew this might not last even if I'll do my best and I'll try to make it work. But you haven't even started and you're finding I'm being fired. Yeah, totally. But I mean, it's a weird thing. It's not TV where you're on a show for a year and then hopefully you get the second year if you get one. It's like in movies, they fire and hire different writers all the time, and so directors less, but writers, it really is pretty common. I've been on both sides of it where it's like, I used to take it really harder, fired off a movie.You're like, oh my God, did they not like the draft? I did. And usually it's like, no, we liked it, but now there's a director on it and they want to take a different direction. Or Oh, the director has a friend that they want to work with that they work with as a writer. Or other times I've been that guy that a director has brought on to rewrite somebody else, and I always try to be super nice about it. Now that I've seen both sides of it, I always try to reach out to the previous writer and be like, Hey, I just want you to know it's in good hands. Or sometimes if I'm the one that's fired, I reach out, be like, Hey, if you want to know where the skeletons are buried, happy to get in lunch with you. Just to be like, here's the pitfalls to look out for.This is where people don't realize that people on the outside just don't realize what it's actually like when you're the writer. You're a successful working writer. And I think they have a very different vision of the reality of a hundred percent. I didn't know the job was, I thought the job was going to be writing the whole time. Most of the job is it's playing politics with the studio and the executives and the director and Well, what do you mean politics, getting navigating the notes? What do you mean? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like the notes, but also the personalities. It's like a lot of the job I feel like is to go in and to make everybody feel comfortable with where you're taking it. Because you walk into a room and sometimes you could feel like, oh, the director thinks they're making a very different movie than the head of development thinks.Then that's different than what the producer thinks. And that's different than what the head of the studio thinks. It's like I've been in a room where it's like Jeffrey Katzenberg is just like, guys, guys, guys, you're all thinking about this all wrong. And you just have to be like, okay, how can I find solutions that makes everybody happy, that make everybody happy? And that's a huge part of the job. I mean, honestly, when I did the Lego rewriting with Phil and Chris, that's what the whole job was, was just like, how do I make Warner Brothers who didn't know what they had? They thought it was a toy commercial. They were very skeptical of the whole thing, Phil and Chris, who wanted to make some beautiful art. And it was cool with cool ideas. And Lego Corporation who wanted to make a toy commercial and Lucasfilm who didn't want their characters to be in it, and DC who didn't know whether they should be or not.And you're just like, how do I get in a room? And and usually if you come up with a great gag or great joke that articulates the, that illuminates the tone of the thing. So they all go, oh, okay. That's the thing. So the round of notes, like you're saying, oh, it's incredible, but for everybody and everyone's got conflicting. I don't even know walking into that job, and all I care about is I don't want my friends, Phil and Chris to think I fucked up their movie because they're trusting me just so I keep it moving. But I would think even for them, it's like, how do I get this movie made when I have so many competing notes and to their credit account, great, but still that is a hundred percent to their credit, they have a genius ability to, not only are they great writers and great directors, I think more than that, they have this sense of how to make everybody in a room think that the ideas came from them.It's like, yeah, they're great at, they'll go into a room, I think sometimes having some ideas in their pocket, but it feels like the room came up with the ideas together, and then everybody's like, yes, we did it. Pat ourselves on the back. And everybody, the executives' seem happy. But sometimes it actually does come out that, I mean, those brainstorm sessions really do create a new idea, and sometimes it's them trusting the process that that's going to work out. And sometimes I think they literally are like, well, we can go this way or this way, but I know it'll be easier if they think they had the idea. So let's go this way for now. And then later they know it's going to change a thousand times anyway in the storyboards, and then they could figure it out for real later. Because all these see people like that.They're very well paid, but in my opinion, they're earning every penny of this a hundred percent. They're earning every, it's not that easy. This job, I feel like I've gotten better over the years where I've taken my ego out of it. I used to have a much bigger ego, you might remember, but I feel like I can be, now, I can just go in a room and be like, I'm just going to try to help. I'm just going to be like, how could I make everybody feel comfortable? How can I make everybody feel like we're on the right page together and create this thing? I know that it's like the process is going to take years and years, and the relationship is more important than the individual story note or whatever. It's like that's what's going to matter over the long term of this project.It's that we all trust each other and that we can make something great together. And that's more important than fighting for a joke or fighting for a story moment or a take, or even exactly, either. It's about fighting the relationship, and I've said this before, it's about the relationship is the most important thing, and sometimes you have to sacrifice what you think is the best story, the best moment for the greater good of the relationship. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Wow. I feel like this has been eyeopening even for me, and I feel like my eyes are fucking opened. You know what I'm saying?We've done some movie work, but obviously we work mostly in tv, but the movie side, the movie side was never really appealing. I remember because we shared the same agent for our futures, and I remember he gave us a conversation. I was like, I dunno if I want to work in movies again. It's weird. It sounds hard. It's different because in TV you're the boss, right? I mean, when you're the showrunner, you're the boss. Yeah. You've been there for a long time. And in movies, you're never the boss. I mean, I gave up on, I mean, before I worked with you, there was one TV show I ran and I co ran with my friend Tim, and we were the bosses, and I hated it. I did not enjoy it. It was like all the meetings and all the decisions and the budgets and the interpersonal relationships and all that stuff.I was like, I was not good at it back then, and I don't know if I'd be better now, and I just was like, you know what? I just want to be part of a team and I want to be a writer. And it's like in movies, that's what you are. You're just part of this big team in a different way. I mean, I guess when you're a staff writer or coming up through the ranks and tv, you're part of a team too, but you can be like, you're also a much more integral part of the team, the one writer on it at the time. Or in movies, you're like, when you're the writer, you're the writer and they all look to you for that one job. Or if you're on a staff when I'm on a show with you or whatever, you might look to me for one type of, it's very different. I'm a cog in this room.It's never, you never have to be a hundred percent on your A game every day for you can showing it in a little bit coast. Wow. Adam Paval, what an interesting conversation. This is enlightening for me. Very enlightening. Yeah, man. Are you having everybody on from the old days, Brian? Well, I had Alex Berger on a while ago. We talked a little bit about that script that you guys wrote together. Well, there's two things on Glen Martin. You were always pestering me to do a musical. Yeah, I think, I don't know how to write a musical. And you're like, this is why I've work in animated features. I've written three musicals since I, so lemme let you do the movie. I was like, dude, I don't know how to do so go ahead and knock yourself out. That was fun. And then you guys came back with that Christmas episode. I thought you guys both hit it out of the park. I was like, let's shoot it, let's shoot it.I think it took, because that was all second year stuff and it took a little bit of time to figure out tonally what we were doing and then just to get a little crazier. And then, I mean, those episodes were like, yeah, I could be a little bit more myself of writing the weird stuff that I wanted. I mean, the other one I remember fondly is that weird Funshine episode. Was that the musical one or was that, I don't remember. Dude, fun cine was, it was like the planned community in Florida that was basically celebration Florida and they all realized that everybody was on being drugged and were lactating out of their breast and all that. Oh, that's right. Now I remember the guy, there was a scene where there's a pregnant man or something. It was fucking nuts. And I was like, oh, now we're writing the show that I could write.The first year, I think it was a little bit more like I was a little square pa in a round hole where it was like I didn't have a family at the time and it was a family show. It was about a dad and a mom trying to navigate their crazy kids and I was like, I don't know what the fuck. Crazy in that show. It's a shame. We didn't do more seasons. We weren't nuts. It was fun. It was a fun time. For sure. I got some of the puppies right over there, so see, yeah, I got the one you gave me of me that one from the college episode. Oh right, the college episode. That's right. We put you in. You ran the gauntlet I think, didn't you? I think that, yeah, that's exactly right. Funny. Yeah, funny. Adam, Papa, where can people, is there anything want, we can plug people, find you.Are you on social media? Is there anything? I'm not super active. I'm on Twitter. You can find me on Twitter. Adam Papa or Adam or whatever it's called now. X X, I'm on X, but don't really, I'm not super active on it. I don't have anything to plug. Everything's going to come out in four years. Yeah, right. Yeah. Look for Adam Papa in four years when something drops to the movies. That's the process. Dude, thank you again so much for doing this. This was a really interesting conversation. I haven't talked yet, spoken to anybody about this kind of stuff. You are a wealth of information. Alright. Yeah, it's fine. Everyone, thank you so much. Until the next episode drops, which will be next week. Keep writing.Phil Hudson:This has been an episode of Screenwriters Need to Hear this with Michael Jamin and Phil Hudson. If you're interested in learning more about writing, make sure you register for Michael's monthly webinar @michaeljamin.com/webinar. If you found this podcast helpful, consider sharing it with a friend and leaving us a five star review on iTunes. For free screenwriting tips, follow Michael Jamin on social media @MichaelJaminwriter. You can follow Phil Hudson on social media @PhilaHudson. This podcast was produced by Phil Hudson. It was edited by Dallas Crane Music by Ken Joseph. Until next time, keep writing.

On this week's episode, I speak with convicted Ohio murderer, Larry Fulford. Larry is convicted in the murder of Steven Vanderpool. Vanderpool was hit with a pool stick, stabbed and had a refrigerator pulled down on top of him. Larry was present during the infamous Lucasville prison riot in 1993.www.unforbiddentruthpodcast.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4724561/advertisement

On April 11, 1993, a riot broke out at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville, OH, primarily due to tensions between the prisoners and the guards. The riot went on for 11 days resulting in 10 deaths and millions of dollars in damages. 23-year-old prisoner Keith Lamar was a witness to the riot, and although there was no physical evidence linking him to any involvement in the riot, the prosecution focused on him presumably because he refused to aid them in their investigation. Many incentivized and coerced prison informants testified that Keith was the leader behind the riot while the prosecution failed to present the exculpatory evidence in their possession that others were responsible. Thus, Keith became one of the five prisoners convicted of the murders and blamed for the riot. Keith was sentenced to death. Jason talks to Keith Lamar and Keegan Stephan, Keith's attorney.  To learn more and get involved, visit:  https://www.keithlamar.org/https://www.instagram.com/justiceforkeithlamarhttps://www.facebook.com/justiceforkeithlamarhttps://twitter.com/freekeithlamar PayPal: info@keithlamar.orgVenmo: @justiceforkeithlamarCash App: $justiceforkeithlamar Petitions:https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/justice-for-keith-lamar-ldf-1/https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/free-keith-lamar Native Sons Literacy Program:https://www.nativesonsliteracy.org/donate-to-native-sonshttps://www.nativesonsliteracy.org/scholarship Memoir and Music:https://www.keithlamar.org/merchandisehttps://www.albertmarques.com/video Wrongful Conviction is a production of Lava for Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On April 11, 1993, a riot broke out at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville, OH, primarily due to tensions between the prisoners and the guards. The riot went on for 11 days resulting in 10 deaths and millions of dollars in damages. 23-year-old prisoner Keith Lamar was a witness to the riot, and although there was no physical evidence linking him to any involvement in the riot, the prosecution focused on him presumably because he refused to aid them in their investigation. Many incentivized and coerced prison informants testified that Keith was the leader behind the riot while the prosecution failed to present the exculpatory evidence in their possession that others were responsible. Thus, Keith became one of the five prisoners convicted of the murders and blamed for the riot. Keith was sentenced to death. Jason talks to Keith Lamar and Keegan Stephan, Keith's attorney.  To learn more and get involved, visit:  https://www.keithlamar.org/https://www.instagram.com/justiceforkeithlamarhttps://www.facebook.com/justiceforkeithlamarhttps://twitter.com/freekeithlamar PayPal: info@keithlamar.orgVenmo: @justiceforkeithlamarCash App: $justiceforkeithlamar Petitions:https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/justice-for-keith-lamar-ldf-1/https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/free-keith-lamar Native Sons Literacy Program:https://www.nativesonsliteracy.org/donate-to-native-sonshttps://www.nativesonsliteracy.org/scholarship Memoir and Music:https://www.keithlamar.org/merchandisehttps://www.albertmarques.com/video Wrongful Conviction is a production of Lava for Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Lisa Blackburn, councillor for Middle/Upper Sackville, Beaver Bank, and Lucasville in the city of Halifax Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This week, we're offering a few pieces of content. [ 00:03:20 - 00:07:07 ] First up, after some announcements concerning a local case of police brutality and jail issues in Buncombe County, NC, we'll hear a statement from Mark “Mustafa” Hinkston, a politicized prisoner we first heard from some years back, who is being held in Ohio about the cruelty of his keeping. His letter can be found below. [ 00:07:07 - 00:23:57] Then, we'll hear a reading out of Against Oblivion, Against Despair: A Call for June 11th , an invitation to the 2023 celebration of the June 11th International Day of Solidarity with Marius Mason and All Long-Term Anarchist Prisoners. More on that, including translations of the statement, statements by prisoners, artwork, action reports, can be found at June11.org. [ 00:24:47 - 01:00:24 ] Finally, we'll hear a chat with Chazz, an anarchist participating in continued support of prisoners from the George Floyd Uprising. You can find more on some of these prisoners at UprisingSupport.Org, and info for other political prisoners at PrisonerSolidarity.Com. Hear our past shows on anti-repression or June 11th more specifically, check out . We'd also like to suggest recent episodes of Channel Zero Network member shows Its Going Down podcast entitled ‘“States of Incarceration”: Abolition, Revolt, and Organization' and Coffee With Comrade's episode, “June 11th”. Announcements Support If you've been seeing our social media presence, you'll note that we've been releasing interviews into our patreon stream early. You'll start seeing some of those soon appearing in our podcast stream in the near future, including Scott's interview with trans antifascists from Liverpool about migrant solidarity and a sort of scene report in that town. If you want to get earlier access to chats like that or our chat with Shannon Clay, co-author of the recent history of Anti-Racist Action called We Go Where They Go, alongside many other thank-yous, check out patreon.com/TFSR and consider pledging $3 or more a month. The money goes to support our webhosting, printing and postal costs and, most of all, our monthly transcription work that helps get these interviews translated, printed as zines and sent in to prisoners. Bail Limbo On Wednesday, May 17th Asheville Community Bail Fund posted a secured bond for someone currently incarcerated in Buncombe County Detention Facility. They have still not been released. After spending hours and days trying to get answers, we've learned that this bureaucratic nightmare revolves around an order for an electronic ankle monitor. The court has been instructed to pause these orders, but did so anyway, putting them in legal limbo. Their bail is paid, but they are trapped because the county is requiring something the county no longer provides... Call the DA's office (828) 259-3410 from 9-5pm to demand they stop ordering electronic monitoring and drop existing orders, otherwise it's just a dishonest way of denying people access to pretrial release. Devon Whitmore Fundraising Devon Whitmore, an African American man in Asheville, was arrested by Asheville police under violent and questionable circumstances, with police claiming Devon had a gun that never materialized and for a misdemeanor warrant for communicating threats. The police were filmed kneeling on Devon's neck and was possibly spared serious injury by intervention from neighbors at Livingston Apartments. As a result of this, Devon and his fiance were evicted from their apartment and need help renting an apartment and bailing Devon out of jail. You can find articles and video about the interaction as well as ways to show up in support or to donate at  https://linktr.ee/applythepressurecommittee Mark "Mustafa" Hinkston Mark Hinkston #707-808 SOCF PO Box 45699 Lucasville, Ohio 45699 This is none other than Comrade Mustafa… And I'm reporting “live” from the other side of Amerikkka! Here in the infamous “Lucasville” (which these tyrants refer to as SOCF), and where I'm currently being held against my will, those filthy pigs have created an isolated torture chamber in the K2 cellblock, which is designed specifically to destroy the mind and the soul of Black men! There's 40 cells on the K2 cellblock ---- 1 through 40 ranges --- that are filled with Black faces, with the exception of 3. And the white faces are becoming less and less as these racist (and self-hating) administrators continue to produce new elements of a fake program that will no doubt allow them to stereotype and profile Black prisoners. I n the K2 cellblock, prisoners are subjected to the harshest of living conditions: most of the cells should be labeled as “out of order” since there are plumbing and electrical issues. In some cells the toilets don't have water-pressure enough to flush the urine and feces after these facilities are used. This leaves prisoners to live with the smell, germs and bacteria in their immediate living quarters, day in and day out, as they perform daily rituals such as eating, praying, sleeping, etc. In some cells the lights don't work, so prisoners don't have adequate lighting to read or write. To add to this, the cellblock isn't operative! There's no laundry services provided – period! The prisoners are not allowed to property groom themselves, there's no barber services provided. And the corrupt prison-officials refuse to give prisoners razors on the appointed days of Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Further, when they do give razors, they commit unthinkable deeds like they'll place someone else's used razor into the bag with your cell number on it, which is unsanitary and subjects you to contracting a disease. The food trays always have less food on them than that which is nutritionally appropriate by the “healthy heart diet” standards. And this is the type of diet being enforced by the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections. Yet, the prisoners in K2 cellblock are NOT allowed to buy food items from the commissary to compensate for the lack of nutrition provided. In essence, the captives of K2 are being starved as a torture tactic. And to further add insult to injury, the oppressed brothers in K2 cellblock are not provided with any mental stimuli. There is no TV, no radio, very few books to read. There's no library services at all! We can't use the phone for months at a time, and the commissary services won't sell US postage or embossed envelopes either, so we can't communicate with our family and loved ones or comrades for months at a time! This creates a state of depression within the K2 cellblock that's so thick that it can be cut with a knife. The temperature is freezing in this torture chamber, cold as ice! But the prisoners won't attempt to get the windows closed because ultra aggressive, corrupt prison-officials continuously use excessive force on prisoners via chemical agents like riot canisters of mace, which cause everyone in the cellblock to choke and get sick. Add all of this, along with the element of racial-imbalance and it equals Black torture! The oppressed brothers of the Lucasville torture chamber are appealing to the “people's army” for aid and assistance now! To get involved, contact Annette Chambers-Smith, the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections Director. Also, you can contact Governor Mike Dewine at 624 466 3555 . ... . .. Featured Track: 1000000 Died To Make This Sound by Thee Silver Mt Zion Memorial Orchestra from 13 Blues for Thirteen Moons  

Many blame the Lucasville uprising on the prayer leader of the Sunni Muslim prisoners. A revealing conversation with Siddique Abdullah Hasan sheds light on what he says happened during those 11 days, why he thinks he was convicted and sent to Death Row and whether or not he believes Keith was the leader of the “Death Squad.” For photos and documents related to this and every episode:  https://www.instagram.com/the_real_killer_podcast/?igshid=MGU3ZTQzNzY%3DSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As Keith prepares for trial, his attorneys don't have much confidence in their case. But learning about where Keith comes from sheds some light on how and why he ended up at Lucasville in the first place.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Lucasville Ohio prison riot, Matt's close call while hitchhiking, and other tales of true crime. Sources and References: **Trigger Warning: Graphic Photos** Father stares at the hand and foot of his five-year-old, severed as a punishment for failing to make the daily rubber quota, Belgian Congo, 1904 - Rare Historical Photos What happened in the Lucasville prison riot in 1993? (cincinnati.com) The Icepick Surgeon: Murder, Fraud, Sabotage, Piracy, and Other Dastardly Deeds Perpetrated in the Name of Science , Kean, Sam - Amazon.com Netflix Series: Captive --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thewyrdkidspodcast/support

One of the worlds leading experts in shining beyond your shy and becoming a stronger you from the inside out, Fiona Cutts,  joins Brad in this episode of the B.E.S.T. Self Podcast.  Fiona was a desperately introverted, shy child, who grew up to find her life dominated by fear and shyness.  She found it difficult to even be in a room full of people, let alone say anything!Empowering you to create a more phenomenal life, Fiona uses her story to help others overcome their shyness and fears.   She has changed the narrative in her life to beyond what is supposed to be possible and nowadays travels the world, and the virtual world empowering others to overcome their shyness. The best investment made today will be the investment in YOU.  Your Best Self will never disappoint.  If you feel the show is worthy, please feel free to share with those you care about as it encourages others to be the their best selves.  We can all be 1% better today.The #1 Best Seller,  DNA Of A Winner:  8 Steps to Building The Soulprint Of A Winner is on the market.  Grab your copy on Amazon searching the title or at www.braddaltongroup.comBrad is an elite coach inside the most powerful Empowerment coaching program in the world and is currently accepting candidates and companies that are a good fit to be coached.  Click here for a conversation or text "Best Self" to  208-353-0657.Brad can be found at:Instagram: @best_selfuLinkedin: Brad DaltonEmail:  brad@braddaltonspeaks.comIn its 1.5 years on the market, 900+ cities have hopped onboard the B.E.S.T. Self Podcast.  Additionally, sixty-one countries have made the plunge into the success road at the time of this recording!   We welcome back Lucasville, Ohio as well as Johannesburg, Gauteng to the show!Please feel free to review the show as it encourages others to listen in.   All interview videos can be seen on the Best Self Podcast YouTube Channel.Audio only versions as well as interviews can be found at Spotify, iTunes, iHeart Radio, Google Podcast, Castbox, Apple Podcast, Deezer and most major podcast networks.Thank you for sharing!   Make it a great day!Fiona can be found at:Website: www.fionacutts.comShinning Beyond Shy Podcast: Click hereFacebook: Click hereInstagram: Click hereLinkedin: Fiona CuttsTwitter: Click hereYoutube: Click here

Hey folks. This week, we're sharing our 2020 chat with Keith Lamar aka Bomani Shakur who is facing execution on November 16th 2023. We hope you enjoy his insights and check out his support website, KeithLamar.Org and get involved in helping him fight for his life and for justice. Starting February 25, 2022 you can hear Keith, Albert Marquet and others performing "Freedom First" We'll have new content coming out next week. Bomani Shakur speaks to us from death row at OSP Youngstown in Ohio. Bomani is accused of crimes related to the 1993 Lucasville Uprising he claims innocence of and has an execution date set for November 16, 2023. For the hour we speak about his upbringing, his case, injustice in white supremacist and capitalist America, Bomani's politicization and struggle to find himself, defend his dignity and his life. To hear a longer, podcast version, check out this link on archive. This interview was originally recorded on April 29th, 2020. Thanks to Revolutionary Abolitionist Movement – NYC for hooking us up with the chat and helping coordinate the Month Of Solidarity. More on his case can be found at KeithLamar.Org, on the facebook page “Justice For Keith Lamar” and at the twitter account, @FreeKeithLamar. On his website you can find a link to his book, Condemned, ways to donate to his phone fund, and a link to the excellent, 30 minute documentary on youtube about his case also named Condemned. Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin is an author, black anarchist, organizer, former Black Panther and former political prisoner based in Kansas City, Missouri. In this segment, Lorenzo talks about prisoners organizing unions and other associations in the past, the thoughts of George Jackson and Martin Sostre and more. You can find a recently republished edition out from Pluto Press of Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin's classic “Anarchism & the Black Revolution” plus a bunch of other essays. If you order this from Firestorm books here in Asheville, you'll get a 10% discount and we'll get a kickback, too! Otherwise, it's available at any number of renowned booksellers. And a quick note that the interview with Lorenzo was conducted by a member of True Leap Press. Since 2017, True Leap has provided free print political education materials for imprisoned people engaging in abolitionist study. They have over 200 titles in their new 2022 catalog. They don't keep a mailing list, as literature is only available upon request. If you would like a new catalog of their 2022 literature selections, please visit them at their website TrueLeapPress.com or at their new address: True Leap Zine Distro PO Box 6045 Concord, CA 94524 Announcements Political Prisoner Updates Daniel Baker has a book wish list online at the Anarchist Black Cross Federation website: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1L3A3PSLOYAY4?ref_=wl_share Eric King's mail ban is gone, so he can receive books and letters! Reach out to him! More info, plus new poetry by Eric at SupportEricKing.Org. Sundiata Acoli is appealing his continued incarceration: https://www.abcf.net/blog/oral-arguments-in-sundiata-acolis-appeal-case-can-now-be-viewed/ Sean Swain is back in general population, has phone access and seems to have a reprieve from being interstate transferred for the moment. Find out how to write and support Sean by visiting SeanSwain.Org . ... . ..  

Welcome to episode 17 of Ohio 88 where we will be discussing some of the most notorious individuals from Scioto County, Ohio. For this episode, we will be discussing an event that involved several of Ohio's most notorious individuals…the Easter Prison Uprising of Lucasville in April of 1993.As a quick summary; On April 11, 1993; Nine inmates and one corrections officer died after 450 inmates rioted and took control of the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility on Easter Sunday. The prisoners controlled the Lucasville facility for 11 days before authorities were able to regain control. This was the longest prison uprising in U.S. history. The riot ended on April 22, 1993 after prisoners and law enforcement agreed to 21 terms of surrender - one of these terms included the promise to review complaints over TB testing. ____________________________________________________________________________________Support the show by joining Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/ohio88Check out our new website - www.ohio88podcast.com Our music was created by Nico of We Talk of Dreams*All sources for this episode will be on the website soon.

Your bluetooth will leave blood on the razor wire when Chad Marks hits Ramos Gallery with Big Luck's, Ol' Blue Eyes, Schwartz and Chumahan about being 24 sentenced to 40 in the fed because his lawyer dropped the ball on a 10 year plea deal, he lost hist time, his freedom and his woman but somehow, some way, he turned hell into a positive becoming one of the greatest jailhouse lawyers of all time, after helping over 100 inmates get freedom they finally released him this is the heroic harrowing horrific amazing uplifting shocking astonishing amazing incredible story of all stories and it's all true and it's all for the hard Luck crew.Transcript - Draft Version, Not Final, Don't Trip.Why don't we just roll? Yeah, let's roll. I've already told Schwartz. Okay.good morning. And welcome to the hard luck show. I'm a certified qualified west side. Host Steve lucky Luciano. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, you've tuned into the greatest show on earth. Hard luck show coming to you from the peak gold youth and family center in Southern California. Santa Monica, California.Hey, this near I've got, uh, my partner partner jumaan over here. It's to Mohan Bowen, American Indian elegant barbarian, Southern California here to regulate. Once again, we don't take any geeks off the street. You better come with a fucking huge let's go. Yeah, come on, come home, come home, come on and get some phonesat the LBC mission, trying to find Mr. Weber. That shit. Oh, come on. Now. We got our show runner Xtrordinair. Mr. Schwartz, Sean Lewis on south side, blue eyes devil inside height, man for king salmon. Oh, king salmon flavor. Flame. Yeah. Now you're better. You're your blue eyes, maybe certified professional engineer for the fish ate. Oh, that's how I look away.Right on each job. Go ahead. Yeah. Bring it in those slow grooves. Yeah. Showrunner extraordinary. Yeah. Get it. He forgot to tell everyone his name, Swartz, Schwartz. What's up. Everybody knows what's up. Carry a jar in his pocket. He's got the carrier torch for Schwartz, carry the torch andAli Baba and the 40.what's going on. Ali on the visual is no, I already know what time it is. Do what Ali what's. Um, you have kind of a, like a flat voice that people it's. You said people think you have high or something. What is it? I don't know why, but I guess like be with it. I sound like monotonesounds like he's on heroin all the time.  Like he's on Cate and cat, tranquilizer, ketamine. He's like live, you listened to him. Like here, listen to the happy new year part. Like, listen, just, just to throw it back. We got them all pumped up and we're like, come on, happy new year. And this is what we get. Oh, wait, hold on.Let me do this again. And this is what we get, and this is what, it's my money. It's my thing turned up, bro. Okay, here we go. We made it 20, 22, knockout it with hard luck podcast. He sounds like he's good. He's like, Hey, he's laying down. And you're like, begging, like he can barely bring his consciousness to bring his head up and talking to them.he's been kidnapped and he's in a trunk. Yeah. Right, right. Pull the duct tape off his mouth for a minute. Like going hypoglycemic or something. Yeah. Hello everybody. It's happy new year. All right, listen. Enough fucking around. We have. We have a gap. We do have, how do we find this guest, Nick?How did we find this deep? Do the water's running on this? We found this guest, uh, by, I heard an interview that he did on another podcast actually. And, uh, it was incredible decided to reach out to the guy and a friend of the show. Uh, Chad, mark, and, uh, he's got a YouTube channel blood on the razor wire, the book out, you got a book on the reason why I go on Amazon.If you want to stop being stupid and you want to hear some real G shit and you want to read some real prison stories, you want to hear the real, the raw, the unfiltered go on Amazon, get blood on the razor wire and fucking read. Not only me and I, I read it. Not only is it a great book, but he put, he put a lot of energy into the descriptions and you feel like you're right there.So without further ado, Chad Martin and progress recording is in progress. Um, how are you doing this morning chat show. What's going on, man? I appreciate you guys bringing me on the show. Absolutely. It's a pleasure to have you on man. Quite moved by what we've heard from Schwartz. He gave us a rundown last week.Um, and then we started looking at you and Schumann dove in deep and man, just some incredible stories, man. So I don't know where, how do we start with this? Jumaan why don't we start since we're we're we're at the top here. Why don't we show, why don't we? Okay, so just to give Mr and Mrs. Earbuds, a little bit of a teaser, he's got some interesting stories about names you've heard.For instance, he may have. Been in a situation where he was able to have conversations with Whitey Bulger, but we're not going to talk about that. Now. That's just a little teaser motherfucker. We're just setting that up. Why don't you chat March? Why don't you tell us what you're doing currently, the work that you do to support people getting out of their situation.All right. So, um, let me do it this way. Right? At the age of 24, I was sentenced to 40 years in federal prison, but the prison wasn't always a nice guy in the beginning, turned my life around about 10 years in became a jailhouse lawyer. I ended up getting released on the first step back, got out of prison, put together a paralegal and prison consultant firm called freedom fighters.So that's kind of what I'm doing now helped a lot of people like Russell Simmons, son. I just did his 2255. Got him back into court. Um, the rapper little baby, you know, this might not go over easy with some of your people, but his real. It's not the dude that people think it is to do named Rodney love.That was sentenced to life. Plus 55 years. I got his stuff in court right now. So that's pretty much what I'm doing, man. I help a lot of people. I help people that call me and say, Hey, I've got a girl from Florida said, look, my baby's father's in prison. I'm poor. I worked part-time at McDonald's. I wrote his stuff for free man.That dude's got 45 years. He deserves to get out for a non-violent drug offense. Right? So Chad, how many people generally, approximately have you helped get out of prison? Probably got over a hundred people out of prison. Damn. You're a fucking Saint bro. That's fucking fantastic brother. You see that? I mean, there's a lot of people out there that talk a good one.This guy is actually putting his hand out, lifting people up. Now let me get clear on something. If you wouldn't have lawyered up yourself, if you wouldn't have gathered your own information, tie yourself, would you still be in prison? 100%. I'd probably still be in prison, man. I met this dude named Cedric Dean, right.And USP Lee. And he said, Hey man, you want to get out of prison? He said, they're going to change the law. Do they're going to bring back parole? Something's going to happen. He said, what you're going to end up doing is you're going to go to the parole board. You're gonna tell him, yeah, I got caught with five knives and I've been selling dope in here.I stabbed two people. He says that the resume you want. And I said, nah, man, not really invited me to one of his classes, man. And that dudes to do that pretty much taught me everything and put me on the right track. I didn't get out of the right track that day, but that was the start of the process. Right.So how did you, so when I read through your book and I listened to the various interviews, one of the things that came up for me. You know, you were accused of, let's say, uh, being a businessman and selling things that were illegal, but not really that violent, there wasn't any violence. How is it that you got 40 years in the fed for that?Well, it was a nonviolent drug offense, right? So this is what they did back then. You would get five years for the, there were guns involved, right? So let me explain it this way so that your, your, your viewers will probably be shocked. The listeners will probably be shocked for the first gun. It was a 12 gauge shotgun.I got five years gun. They found in the house. The second gun was a 22 rifle and they gave me 25 years for that. So you get five years for the first gun, 25 stacked onto to that, which is 30 and then 10 for the drugs. That's how they, the country is this it's our country, man, what state was that? And it's in New York, but this was a federal law.And that's something that they changed with the first step back and as crazy as this sounds right. Congress had all this stuff was wrong, so we're going to fix it, but we're not going to fix it for the dudes that are in prison. What we will do is we're not going to make it retroactive, but we're going to leave it in the judge's discretion to determine if there's an extraordinary and compelling reason to reduce your sentence.Right? So a guy like me in New York, I got out on that, a guy in Florida. You're not you, they can't get out guys in Georgia. They can't get out guys in Philly, in Pennsylvania. They can't get out under that long. All right. So let's pause it right there in what was going on in your life at the time that you were charged.And at the time that I was charged, man, I was living in the street life man thought I was a tough guy. I thought I was that dude selling drugs. You know, I had a, I had a little team and I thought I was the man thought I was untouchable. Never realized that, you know, I was throwing bricks at the penitentiary that whole time and big ones.Obviously I ended up with a 40 year sentence. Right. Um, how, what was, did you ever find out how they were able to pull a case together? Uh, Uh, 100%, man, what happened? The dude that I was a dude that I used to look up to when I was a kid, man, he ended up becoming a drug addict. I seen him one day, he's walking down the street and he waves me down.He says, Hey, give me a ride chatter. I got to go to the rehab center. Right? And he's like, but I'm not going until tomorrow. My parents are putting me in there and he kicked me out. It's pouring down rain. I give the dude a ride. He says, can you buy me something to eat? Pretty much. He's homeless about to do something to eat.After that, I take him to the hotel. He says, Hey, when I get out, will you give me a job? I also had a home improvement company back then. So I told me, I may call me. I never expected this dude to call me. He gets out of jail. I help him out. He ends up back on drugs. He ends up working for the cops, wears a wire on me.He gets me, he gets me jammed up. I ended up with a 40 year sentence over. Hey Luxe. I mean, what is that? What you shake your head? What, what is that? I mean, you've been in the game. You've done some time in prison. I mean, real prison and stuff like that. So what do you, what are you hearing here? What are your, what is your reaction to that guy?Helps a guy out and then the guy fucking turns into, oh, shit, scumbag, right? Shit. And he did it to save his own. Because he got busted for something and didn't want to do any time. So they set him up to ride them, but the whole thing, but, but that's just one part of it. The other part of it is the law enforcement, usually local law enforcement is already after you.They're going to get rid of you. They have an eye on you. So they're just waiting for the, the fish is going to show up the guy that's going to give you up is going to show up. They're just waiting on for him to show up with a possession or something. And as soon as he does, they've got a couple of people that they're going to get locked up.And it sounds like he was on their target list, right. Imagine. Right. And they were going to get them out and they were just waiting for the right guy that kinda had his way to get in and wire them up. And it's a fucking bullshit, man. And that's fucking setting somebody up. You asked me, that's framing somebody.What's weird about that. Is, is that like, how do I say this in a, in a certain way, it sometimes feels like law enforcement allows certain people to operate and do business in the streets. And then it comes a time where they decide somebody. They want to take somebody off. No, here's what it sounds like is the cops can't get you playing by the rules.See, we all have to play by the rules supposedly, but they don't, they can't get you. Now, if you're fucking up, then they're going to get you and your asked out. But if I'm covering my ass and you got to cheat to get me, and that's what they're doing, man, that's some S see, that's that dirty ass shit, man.You know? But you, you, you got your roar. I got railroad. All right. Go for it. Right. But if you got to cheat, you got to set me up to get me well that's and that's what a cop does. Cause that's what cops do. Right. It's kinda in their blood. Okay. So Chad marks, why does this not just fall to the state? I mean, it's a drug thing.So why did this turn into a federal? All right. So my city, man, it's like, my city is a viciously violent city. Right? What city is that? In? Rochester. New York. Okay. So back then, man, it was, it was off the hook. So they put a joint task force with the local police and the fence and they just started knocking people off, like, you know, dudes that were, you know, doing big things.I guess where I was at, I was like fourth or fifth on the list. There was a list. Trust me. And they knocked us off. One of the kids, they not the kid, they not just before me. He ended up getting out of prison, man got back in the game and they tied him up man and killed him. Dude robbed them, killed him. And that was, that was the end of his story.You know what I mean? He ended up with a 10 year sentence and he got out, dude, he wasn't out. I wouldn't say six months as an Asian kid. Yeah. So they, they had their little list and just knocked this down and it took us to federal court so they could match us real estate. I'd I probably ended up with three years, bro, right?Three to five to how did they make the decision though? How, how do they say like, all right, we're going to charge, you know, uh, Chad was, we're going to go through the federal system. We're not going to let them do state time. They just take over the case. That's it? Well, like I said, it was a joint task force, but if you got guns and drugs, they were definitely taking you over there.But this is the crazy part. Like your brother was saying right here, this is what they were doing. They could have had me when they had the first gun, when they busted that first house, they had me, but that first gun was only 10 years for the drugs and five for the gun. So they waited to bust another house because they knew it was another 25 years.So if we were a danger to the community, why didn't you take us off the, you know, off the street when you had us on that first 9, 24 C, because you needed that second one to really give us a banger and take us over to the fence. Right? So I think the other thing too, though, Toumani was at some point in time, They're putting him together as an organized group of people.That's how the feds are getting rid of them. Like state lines, crossing state lines from the, no, that he's, that they're operating as an organization. I think that's what calls feds into it. Yeah. But if you're operating as an organization and you stay within the state, I still don't understand how that can become federal federal.So the supremacy clause only comes into play only, only go ahead. What is it? Charters with a Rico dude. It was just a conspiracy. Right? So, and like I said, what they were doing was in the state, they knew they were only getting a little bit of time with the Lord that I had. I probably got three years did 90 days in a shock camp type program back then I would've got out.So that's why they don't. Statewide instead they say, no, we're going to take you over to the feds where we can give you all this time, because we can't give you five years for the first gun. How about this? How do they determine that who's who makes that decision? Well, so the fed. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, and listen, uh, Mr.Marx is also, you know, a defacto attorney so he can check ness, but in that fed system, the fed ultimately is king. So the fed can only interact in states. If they can make an argument that whatever activity is going on, whether it be sales normal or criminal somehow affects another state or cross the state lines, that's when federal jurisdiction can actually attach.Now, usually what happens in a lot of cases, it even happens in the civil is a situation where you've you violated, or the state could hear this, or it also violated a federal law and the fed can hear it when there's a choice. The fed can decide. No, we take precedents. If the fed can't take up and its laws, don't run Supreme over state laws, then there would be no power in the fed to collect taxes and do all the other shit that they do.Does that sound about right? That's about right in what determines, where you go, either state or fed is how much time they can give you. If they can bang you in the feds with more time, that's where you're going. Even the state, then they're going to bang you in the state. But hold on that. So that's a, that's a discretion point.This is what people don't understand about the law in a lot of ways, there's a lot of black and white shit, right? It's like you broke this law and then this is going to happen. But for every one of those, there's a million, little discretionary decisions that can be made. And what Chad's talking about is there's a point at which the fed can say, we're going to step in or step out.It's a fed question. And it's usually the prosecutor's authority. Right. And he can look at it. And just as Chad said, for whatever reason, he can say, he'll do more time in his state. So we'll let it go. Or he's going to do more time in the fed. So we're going to take them up through the fed systems that sound about right.Chad, I'm going to give you an example. So let's say. I kill someone in the state and there's drugs involved. Right? A lot of times they're just going to charge you with the murder over there. They're not going to bring you over to the fence because over there they're going to give you 25 to life. That's why they would take that over there.But when you've got a drug conspiracy with guns, dude, there's dude, my boy had 55 years. He's out from Utah Weldon Angelos. And this dude got caught with like, he had two sales of like a quarter pound of weed here and a quarter pound of weed there. They gave him 55 years because he had a gun on him. So they were like, okay, we're going to get him in the feds.And the state would be like nothing to be a year. So we're going to give them five for the first transaction because of the gun 25 for the second transaction, because of the gun and another 25 for the third transaction because of the gun and mind you, it was the same gun, just three different transactions.And check this out, check this out. Let me ask you this. Now that we're in this jurisdictional issue and then we'll get to the other, other pieces, but I'm curious to hear chat's perspective on, you know, Epstein, right? The infamous Epstein. First question I have for you, Chad, is how is it that the fed cut him a sweetheart deal?When he, it was clear that he was molesting or sexually assaulting underage women, but back in Florida, in those early days, how do you square that with the fact that a guy like, like you just described, maybe he is a dealer, maybe he did sell weed or, or whatever it was, but the fed is actively using its discretionary power.So lock a guy up for 75 years. But in the case, like Epstein, they're using their discretionary powers to cut it out, let him out on weekends. How do you, what is your perspective on that? You know what my perspective is, man, when you've got friends in high places, you got big money. That's how that thing works out.He was friends with somebody. He might've been friends with the, with the district attorney, maybe not the assistant district attorney, but obviously the district attorney, someone was friends, Hey man, that's our guy, you know, sweep this under the rug. It's kinda like a bullshit case. I'll give you an example.Our mirror, her husband was over here selling crack. She ends up, they put it all over the news. They're blasting her. You know, they find a bunch of crack. She ends up copping out to like, not even a misdemeanor dude and no nothing. And she's involved in this shit, but that's because she was the mayor. Right.They sweep it under the rug. Right? If it was me or you over here involved in a crack cocaine, conspiracy, I mean, we'd be going to prison for a long time. I got, you know what I'm telling you, I'll tell you something else. I have a friend that's out right now and he's coming on our show. Next month this guy got caught with almost a million dollars in cash and Beverly.Where would you store a million dollars in cash? Where would you store that? He was going to store it somewhere, but it was in his car in a bag. Yeah. What? It was like 800 or 800 grand. They doubt Beverly Hills PD pulls this dude over. So he thinks it's Beverly those beads, but when they pull them over, yeah.A couple other cars are there as they have him pulled over, talking to the cost, wherever they ended up taking him in this guy, thought he was facing a lot of times he got oh, art and got bailed or whatever, very within the first day, Mr. Mrs. Earbuds, if you don't know what Orr is, his own, we're cognizant.He got, he got out. So he's hiring an attorney and ultimately this case that he was looking at doing, I think it was, you know, three to five years and they couldn't get him on anything because they couldn't actually. There was nothing but tax evasion or something or some kind of shit, but they dropped everything.If you just turned over the money, I'm bringing them on the show, man. If he signed over and just gave that money away, the case kind of disappeared, he didn't really suffer any consequences. If you wants to make a big fucking fight over that money, he's got to come up with this, that, and they're moving forward on the case.So Elena, I just hear crazy swells like that directly from somebody. And I'm like, and I hear all these crazy stories about the feds kind of running their own show outside of the lines of the laws or anybody else will ask Chad, listen, I, what do you, what do you think is shit like that? Do you hear stories like that?Honestly, bro, I've heard stories like that. I'm not going to tell you that I seen it on paper like that, but I have heard stories like that. I mean, you had the guys down there in, uh, the Lucasville riots in Ohio. No, let him do his, got destroyed by the cops. And they're like, look, you guys did this to us. We did that to you.No lawsuits, man. You don't get no time, man. You just go away. We're going to release you. You know, I just read, I just read something about that the other day. Someone sent me some stuff on that. So I've heard that. I haven't personally seen it though. All right. So, so Chad, so when we go back to your situation, I mean, did you have an attorney represent you and, and did, did you go to trial or did you take the plea?How did it go? I ended up going to trial dude, believe it or not, man. I paid 40 grand for an attorney for one of the dudes that was supposed to be the best round from. And I felt like man, 40 grand, I got 40 years at the end of the day, right. The guy to do his job. He really didn't man, this and this was supposed to be one of the best where I'm from.He's on the news all the time. Now he does death penalty cases. I mean, he was supposed to be top notch, but how did he drop the ball on. They dropped the ball a couple of times in my situation, like even during the trial, like when he was talking to my mom and my father, they're like, Hey, my stepfather, like, we can't even hear this dude.Like when he was talking, you couldn't hear him. He wasn't prepared. Um, he got prepared like three days before the trial started, he came to see me was like, Hey, I'm like, dude, we're about to have a month long trial. Like, you've got to get an adjournment. He tried to get into German. It didn't work out. He that's how he dropped the ball.Do they walk in there? And he would have pad of paper and he starts writing stuff down. And suddenly he had this been prepared for this prepare for the witnesses. Yeah. Right. And what's the effect on your case? If you take it to trial or you just take their deal? Well, you get what they call the trial penalty.Right? If you go to trial, like in my case, there was, there was a plea that could have resulted in as low as 10 years, you know, at one point where I was just telling the lawyer like, Hey man, try to, I know I can't get below the mandatory minimum at 10, but see if you can get this gun off. And he's like, all right, man, I'll see what I.He ended up getting a big death penalty case. He had no time for my case. So eventually the government ended up superseding the indictment. So I had one count 10 to life and because the lawyer was playing games on, on a two point enhancement, which meant a difference of two or three years, while he's playing games.The government said, man, these dudes playing games, they superseded my indictment with 16 more counts. Now my mandatory minimum went from 10 to life. So 40 to life. That means I had to get at least 40 years. Let's let's just, let's just let everyone let that soak in. Chad pays big city, lawyer, 40 grand take care of me at some point, Chad realizes like the best I'm ever going to get is 10 years and let's just call it quits and let's get the.But let's see if we can do this other thing. Now, this lawyer, big city lawyers out there eating fucking egg McMuffins and drinking all night, and God knows, you know, I don't know. This is just me talking about, you know, blow off of his paralegals, who knows. Right. And next thing you know, he drops the ball and now Chad's facing 40 years, 30 years.How much is 30 years? How can you even quantify? I don't even know what the fuck, bro. That's what, that's what they call the trial penalty. It's like, how dare you go to trial and test us. So now we're going to smack the same country. That's not going to smash the attorney who fucking got you in that situation.They're going to smash you. Are you kidding? Yeah, they're going to smash jam. Oh, we're going to smash your client. Now show you about this. Right? If you, at one point, say the government, we believe a sentence between 11 and 14 years is appropriate for the crimes that you committed. And then, because I exercise my right to trial, that's no longer anything.You're going to give me an additional 1 29 years. That's that that's bullshit. And that's the way the law is like that out here too. You either take this. Cause if you don't take this, we're giving you the max. They do that shit all the time. That's your fucking penalty for exercising your rights rather.That's and that's how it is. And that's how it's written down. And that's what they do every day. And you know why they do that because the, the, the founding bureau scared and not to fucking bark or, or, or, or leap, that's why they do it. And because the founding fathers set an extremely high standard for finding a guy guilty, reasonable beyond, uh, beyond a reasonable doubt, that's the highest in the law you can get.And the reason why the founding fathers did that, they just came off of dealing with a king that was railroad motherfuckers, torturing them to confess to crimes. They didn't commit. So now, so now the. Because, you know what? We don't know if we can reach that. So what we'll do is if that guy wants to go to trial, it's five times what you would face.If we're just going to give you a deal, that's fucking bull shit, right? Check. Well, once again, you're back before the king. And let me tell you something, you know, some young dudes might be listening to your shoulder out there getting money. Let me tell you the other part that's stacked against you in your closing argument, the government goes right.They, they do their closing, you do your closing and then the government gets a chance to rebut that, right? They go last, but the presumption of innocence is over you. Let me tell you some beyond a reasonable doubt that stuff's all bullshit. They tell you it's the greatest system in the world and it may be, but that's because all the other systems in the world, or even more 10 times worse.Right? But the majority of the time, when you go to trial, guess what? They're going to paint this picture. That you're a bad guy. And sometimes you're just going to get convicted off of bad guy evidence. He's a bad guy. You should find him guilty and we should send him to prison. And that's how they do it.Man. Most people get convicted. They're going to try. And how did all of this at this time, uh, affect the, I guess, who were the people in your life? You had your mom? I mean, was she biting her nails and stressed out and worried? How did this all affect her? Oh man. It, it destroyed my mother, man. I was married.Um, my wife ended up having to go. Her said, dude, I got 40 years. She couldn't stick around. You know what I mean? So she ended up going out with her life, but that's the rule that I got out and remarried and just had twins with don't don't don't don't gloss over that. Check this out. It's incredible. Hold on.Chegg is 40 years, right. Chad, how does it feel to hear all right, 40 years in prison? What does that feel like? Well, I mean, when that happened, you're devastated, right? I mean, absolutely devastated. It really, it really hit me that night. When you get your cell alone and you look in the mirror, you're like, wow, You got 40 years.This is it, bro. This is, this is your life. And when I left my city, you know, right where the federal courtroom is, is my neighborhood. It's where I'm from. And I drove through that neighborhood on that. I think they had an expedition that us marshals are driving me to a place where they houses at an immigration facility.Actually, that's where they were housing us at. And I just I'm leaving my city. Like I'm never going to see this shit again, man. And it broke my heart in a drive through my hood, knowing that this is it for the next 40 years. It destroys you mentally and emotionally just absolutely destroys you bro. So check this out.So Chad's wife and Chad probably they have a discussion. This is big boy topics and this is real life. So he's it's 40 years. She has to live her life. Right. And probably no hard feelings. When, so Chad, when you got released after how many years did you get yourself? I did 17 years, five months at 21 days, bro.Okay. Just limited to the story about you and your, your, your wife. So 17 years he gets out and w and how does your wife react to what happens? She ends up contacting me and I'm pretty much, I'm like, look, man, you know that ship sailed. I love you. I care about you, but you got this life over here and you gotta, you gotta go live your life.You know, you got to live the life that you created. And, you know, I knew I had a 40 year sentence at the time. So she, she didn't do like others. A lot of chicks do don't. She came and told me like, look, it's just tough on me. You know, she was struggling to do it emotionally. She was crying a lot. She, it wasn't a life force, so she went on, but yeah, she contacted me and I tried to push her away.But honestly, man, I loved her man that she loved me obviously. And, uh, we ended up reconnecting. It's it's a crazy story, but I tried to push her away for like a month dude. She came to my house and I was like, look, you know, You got to go home. You got to go to the life that you have now. And you know, some dudes might be like, what dude?Honestly, she was married, man. She had, she had, she, she was married and she went home and told her husband like two weeks later, like, look, I can't live like this. You know, I feel like my real husband came home and he had 40 years. Our life was over wit and I never thought he'd get out. It isn't that I wanted to leave him, but I had to have a life.And now I just can't live like this. And that's kind of how it went, dude. And like, I didn't want to like, feel like I'm taking dudes, girl. You know what I mean? Right. She was, she was my wife and I just, you know, unfortunate circumstance and I, I did push her away bro. 100%. She'd tell you that. I ended up reconnecting, bro.I loved her man. And now they have twins. I talk about her in the book. Incredible. Think about that. Steve deemed credible, bro. I mean, Steve, how would you, what is the best show? In the world. It didn't the stories we hear on this show. You don't hear stories like this ever. Steve, let me ask you a question.And, and, and because the love aspect of this thing really moved me because it's kind of like what Chad says. It's like, on the one hand, you kind of understand the other guy, because what, what did he do? The guy didn't do nothing wrong, but you almost in this circumstance, I mean, how would you feel if you were the other guy, Steve?Oh, that that's what everybody's asking themselves right now. This new story, you and the other guy, Willie lump lump. Now, I don't know, man. We don't want to talk about that guy. I feel horrible. He didn't do nothing. Right? I mean, that guy couldn't wait. That wasn't in the cards for him, but GAM home. I love that part, right.Me too. Right. But at the same time, this is one of those scenarios where you're like, real love is real love. Right? Well, but I would also have to think that you, you, weren't the same exact person that left that relationship now there's, you're a very different person. So you're pushing, you might push your way saying I'm not even the same guy was when we were together.I want to keep it real with you. Right. And Alina aspects. I was the same dude, man. And she was the same chip. Right. I changed like my fault pattern. I changed my character as far as I don't want to be in the streets, dude. I'm not selling drugs no more. I appreciate, you know, he talked about the founding fathers.I appreciate life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Right. But other than that, dude, I am pretty much the same dude. And she is too. Do we have, we had a connection. Like I'll tell you crazy shit. Do you remember back in the day I had the Celtics warm-up suit dude, and like she pop all the buttons in the grocery store on standing at the counter and she's just rolling.I'm like embarrassed dude, trying to pull my pants up. Like we used to just do crazy shit. Like we had to do, like, even to this day, like we do crazy shit, like laughing and playing. We just have a great relationship, man. Like a relationship where we never back then did we like had two arguments ever? Like, it was just, there was that there was that connection and not to, you know, brush over, you know, the other dude, dude, I did talk to do and said, dude, I don't want your wife, man.Have your family, bro. Like I talked to the dude, like he, he called me and was crying and I'm like, damn bro. Like I felt.Yes, listen, bro. That's heavy duty, bro. That's that's that? I mean, this story just gets deeper and deeper. Listen, we, you see my YouTube channel. The first video I did, there's like flashbacks of me and her and the pictures and it in, in that first bit, something like a three-minute video on the YouTube channel value.No, my brother though. But, but the one circumstance that you present right here, it's different than if you just showed up and you were some other guy, right? This is the one instance where that guy's like, if he's a real man, he's like fucking dude at a life sentence and he can't. I got a bow gracefully. I don't know them to say, listen, listen, this is one of those situations.Listen. Cause if you got married, listen, cause if I married her, I'm just going to say this. And she told me, my old man got 40 years in the back of my head. What I would be thinking is there's a chance as motherfucker could get out, right? There's a chance this dude could get out. And I need to know that, right.That would be my home responsibility too, to think that way. Right? You, you, you at least like own that possibility walking into the situation. Exactly.They're taking school spirit, just getting to the awesome saved by the bell. New season streaming. Now let's do this baby only on peacock sin. Listen though. That's true. And Chad, right, we got to have you ever as a war reoccurring guests, listen, check this out. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. All right. Listen, you really want to know about the story.Go to amazon.com.Buy your book, blood on a Raceway, but listen, this is what I'm trying to say though. This is what I'm trying to say. Come on, come on. I couldn't pass her up, bro.wait. Woo. You got to tug boat off a fucking big Lux. That's a big one. Damn it, man. Good job. Pardon me? Let's say no, but check this out. Check this out. You're right. Like a man, a man would know, okay, I'm walking into a situation that has maybe a 1% possibility of that. Right, right. But your heart would still turn you into a bitch because even though you know, the real, there's a part of you that would be hurting and you still would cry.I would say it don't matter. I'm not saying because you got accepted doesn't mean you're not fucked up by why. Damn, so. All right. So we've talked about, uh, that aspect and by the way, congratulations on your family. Congratulations on the twins. Did you, when you were laying in, when you were laying in the gray box, did you ever in your wildest dreams think that you would be back with your old lady and have twins and live in the life you're living right now?Honestly, never. In my wildest dreams and one of my right-hand dudes right here, he had just did like 15 years down in Victorville, California. And I was like, damn, bro, you still want to see me right when I won my case, I asked him that that night he said, He slammed me. Right-hand man, I'm gonna keep it real with you, bro.Let her go, man. It's over man. Probably not just let it go, man. It's over now. Yeah, man. You're right. And I can shook it off. You know what I mean? But he was wrong. Hey, when was it? All right. I am sorry. I have to go here still, but I had, so I love the story so much. So you shake it off you man, up, right? You, you look at facts are facts.How did the actual first contact go? Like what happened? Oh, all right. So check this out, right? You're probably gonna laugh about this. Yeah. I asked my sister, Hey, what's her last name? Like my sister and him knew where she was at and everything. So I want to check her on Facebook. So I find her on Facebook.And I, and I see this thing on there and she's part of the neighborhood watch community, right? She's on some cops shit. Now walk away was like, I'm all the way, like out of the way, like I don't, I'm not going to contact I'm on parole. I mean, I'm not, I know games and she's married and they call the police.I'm not going back to the jail. I don't want nothing to do with it. I see all the way out of the way, you know, the first contact was, um, she just reached out to me, man, and I was, Hey, what's going on? How are you? I hope things are going well for you hotline. Well, at Highline chat, please slow it down for a second.So did she call you? She does call me. I'm not going to say who, but yeah. Through someone else. So this is the deal though. No, hold up bro. She calls my paralegal firm phone number and she calls and she's like saying dumb stuff and I don't even know who, I don't even recognize the voice. I don't know what's her.And she said, I got a little bit, she told me to say that. You know, when we reconnected and I'm like, okay, so what can I do to help you? And she's like, well, uh, uh, I'm like, okay. And I'm kind of getting frustrated. So I just, you know, she hangs up on me, calls me again, does the same thing, like a week later.So I'm like, all right, whatever. I don't know what's her. And then eventually she calls me through someone else and I'm talking to the person and I say, Hey, you know, how's she doing? She goes, it's me. But I really knew it was her. It was on a message messenger. And then we ended up talking on the phone. And then when you talk on the phone, even though you're going to do the right thing and push her away and try to snap her out of whatever fantasy she might be having at that time.Um, was there a part of you though that knew where this was headed? Well, honestly, through when we first seen each other, it was, she was just like, look, nothing could ever change, but I wanted to see you. And I'm like, yeah, you got to accept that. You know what I mean? That's, that's what I think. My fate was and did it hurt my feelings?Of course it did bro. But there's another part of me where I was like, I'm not trying to hurt the kids or anybody. I'm just, you know what I mean? And let's keep it real, man. We're all men. I just did 18 years in prison. What do you think? I'm thinking, I know what you're thinking. I'm coming out here to have fun and do me.Right. But honestly, bro, and I'm sure you know, I struggled, man. I'm not gonna lie to you over my situation with her because I really loved her. Do what? I had a hard time for many, many, many years over this. It hurt me man for I wasn't good man until probably 2010, dude, I used to play basketball all day, go to the law library at night.That's how I got over that shit, man. And really I never got over it. And then as soon as I seen her and talked to her and seen her pictures, it was like, dude, it was like crushed my heart again, reoccurring I'll get, get hurt, man. It hurt. It hurt to see her with, you know, someone else in a FA all the things that we had.Like having a son and I used to daydream about, you know, throwing a football to my son and coach my son's baseball team. These are the things that I used to think about with her bro. And she had it with someone else. So yeah, it crushed me, man, man. And I just, I, I mean, I love it. So now, so, okay. So we've talked about the love aspects, but let's go back to, um, now you went to, so you were in the fed system and then I know that you went to a different, a couple of different places on the way to Sandy.And so for Mr and Mrs. Ear buds, what is Sandy? Okay. So back then, big Sandy and my perspective and a lot of people's perspective was probably the most dangerous, most violent federal prison in the United States, bro. Hands down. I mean, Victorville was a close second. Hazelton's a close second, but it was big Sandy, I'd go into big Sandy dude and it's like, right, right from Davis.They're crushing dudes, man. I'm not just talking about, you know, beating dudes up there, stabbing dudes the first night on there, dude slaps the cop in the middle of the day room and the cop grabs his face and he goes, what did I do? And all that. And I'm like, I'm from New York. I did time in New York state prison before the feds.Right? If you hit a cop in New York state, they got these Oak sticks, dude, they're gonna, they're going to kill you, man. This dude just slap the cop. And the cop was like, what did I do? And I'm like, what? The, I couldn't even believe it, bro. Wow. I knew I was in a dangerous zone. As soon as I seen the car. The cops were scared, bro.Right. And so, um, and I also in, in reading your story and also listening to some of the interviews, I saw that as everybody does in prison, and it's an old story now, essentially, right? The various, um, organizations or race organizations, uh, peep you out and find out where you run in. Did that happen for you immediately?As soon as you walk in white dudes approach you, Hey, where are you from? Who you run. And that's an immediate, if you, if you're Hispanic and you come in there, I mean, it's rough for somebody Hispanic brothers from the west coast. Obviously they take some of them dudes in the room and take your shirt off, man.They want to see your tattoos. They want to, they got to make sure, let's say, you know, you're south Saudi from Southern California and duke comes in. They want to see your tattoos, bro. What I mean, Steve, does that track for you? Does that make sense? What he's saying or wall? I haven't, you know, I only spent a couple of nights in the tombs and I didn't get to get to cross up with a whole bunch of people, but I don't know how, I don't know what happens out there with dudes or something all the way up.Right. In, in like big Sandy big Sandy. Is that, would that, what would, that would be like that's in Kentucky. It's in Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah. And like one of the poorest, most fucked up places in Kentucky. One of the great things about Chad Marx's book is he gives you a little bit of history about big Sandy, about Lyndon Johnson landing there in a helicopter, in the shithole of shitholes and all that other kind of shit to eventually develop and set aside like 308 acres for this like thing called big Sandy, that whatever that's the pro the system, he came from.Another thing that I thought was interesting about your story was, uh, you actually, and the other thing is, is how do people find you on YouTube to see all your interviews and the different things you discuss? Just go ahead and jump on that YouTube channel blood on the razor wire TV. And the mission of the channel is this bro, to save kids from life imprisonment and premature death are our stories and our experiences.And like the stuff that I talk about, it's not stuff that I made up, man. It's really, it's my. It's the life that I lived, the interactions that I've been through and I bring dudes on there and, and, you know, I always ask them, what message do you have for your younger self? What message do you have for kids that are on the wrong road?And you'd be surprised how many dudes got out of prison and hit me up and say, dude, I really need your show, man. You know, I'm 30 years old, but I did 10 years of helps me not forget where I came from. So I never got. Right. It won't be disappointed. Right. And one of the things that's not disappointing is in kind of like our show, you know, um, Chad keeps it very real and talks a lot about different things in part, because, and listen, this is always like some kind of issue that comes up in act I on it, I might, me personally, I don't give a fuck.Like we talk about it for real. Some of it is glorifying some of the violence and the different shit that goes on to a certain extent. But part of that is, is that some of the younger people, they want to hear that. And then when they're here, they also get all the other pieces of wisdom and everything.Is that sort of how your show runs Chad? 100% man, 100%. So along that line, my friend, my fine feathered friend. Why don't you tell us what happened when you got stabbed in pre. All right. So this is what happens, right? I'm hustling and USP Lee. I got a store. I sell stamps stamps or the currency in federal prison.This kid owes me $45. He's an Asian kid. He owes me $45 and he starts arguing with me saying, I only owe you 40. So I'm like, check this out, bro. You're right. You only, and this wasn't, I wasn't such a nice guy. I'm not you're right. Pay me to $40. Don't ask me for shit. And they just keep screaming. I said, Hey man, watch how you talk to me out here.We're in public, out here. And he's yelling. So honestly, dude, I blast the kid. Boom. I, I drop them kid from New York, goes over to the top of him. He goes, you got knocked the fuck out his feelings, bro. You know like that Friday thing. Excuse. So a week later, dude, I'm coming back from the store and do, comes up behind me.I don't even know he's out there and he stabs me in the back. He hits me. Boom, boom, boom. He hits me three times with an ice pick. Right? So when he hits me, I'm like, I spin around. I'm like, and I touched my back. My coat, one of my co-defendants is in prison with me. And I tell him, I say, Hey man, grab him. He starts running my co-defendants chasing him.And I'd say, Hey, you stabbed me. It's like my co-defendant the Fred Flintstone dude. Like when I said he stabbed me, like my co-defendant froze up and stopped. Like the dust came up off the concrete, but I changed dude and it's rain and he's weaving in and out. We even in and out. Right. And he slips, bro, if he didn't slip, dude, I ain't gonna lie to you.I wouldn't have caught him. Wow. He slips and falls. I jumped on the kid dude for real, I take the knife and throw it to the side and I just pound this dude's head in bro. Like, and I'm not trying to be like, I'm the baddest dude on the planet. But dude, I pound this dude's head in the cops run. They tackle me.The cop starts trying to punch me in my homeboy, just got stabbed like 30 something times bro. And I seen this shit. So I'm thinking, damn, I'm stabbed. I tell the cop, man, I'm stabbed. I'm stabbed, bro. Like, I'm not trying to die out here. Right. And I want to do it to stop punching me the cop, you know, So these dudes, and I'm a big dude, bro.They picked me up off the ground, bro. Like my feet are off the ground and they start running with me to medical. They get me to medical, they stick this long, Q-tip in my back and they're like, oh, you're all right. And they put me in the rec cage and I'm in the rec cage for like three, four hours. And once my adrenaline stopped pumping through it, I had to pull myself up off the rec cage, like grab a hold of it.I couldn't get up man. And ended up making my way to the cell. I laid in the bed for like three or four days. But this is the crazy part, dude. There's another dude that gets stabbed right around the same time as me. Like that same day, he goes to the hole, they put the Q-tip in him and do all that shit. He dies from internal bleeding, bro.They never send them to the outside hospital that could have been me. Brock would have been in that cell dude. I laid in that bed. I didn't eat, I didn't drink, but my celly was trying to help me out, man. Like I have a really good celly man and thrill duty. He was just doing it to help me man, because I was fucked up, man.When, how long do you think it took that dude to uh, Stab me three times. Like how long did that interval go, dude? It was just like a machine gun, like bang, bang, bang, bang. It just hit me. And when he has two holes in a scrape and when, how long do you think it took you to realize what just happened? Dude? I thought he punched me.I just thought dude punched me. I'm like, and then when I reached in my back and that's when I told my whole boy, like, I'm like, it was like immediate. Right. And I pulled my hand out and there's blood all over my hand. Right. So I'm like, yo man, Hey, catch him. He just stabbed me. That was it. I'm thinking one thing a fuck that if I'm going to die, I'm getting this dude before I die, man.And like where on the back? Where on the back did he stab you? Right by my spine. My lower back man is sitting in the spine. Well, it could have been so bad. And then, and then, um, how thick do you think? Because if they put a Q-tip in you, like how thick was the whole, it was an ice pick dude. Like, you know, a lot of times they'll take like pieces off the fans, big industrial fans.They'll take a piece of that off. Bend it sharpen it like a nail. And then, you know, Thailand, you're an on and put a little tape on there. That's what he hit me with, bro. He hit me with like, probably like a seven inch piece. It didn't go in it, dude. For real, it didn't really go in, go in, but it went in enough to put me in that bed for about three days after my adrenaline style and your whole body tightens up.When you get stabbed, it would like things happen to your body that you can't even explain. Steve, you ever been stabbed? No so you missed out big cut on the arm, but I haven't been stabbed, but I've seen the effects of, of, uh, welding rods. That's what fucking people would use in one prison I was at and they would take three welding rods and, and you take down all flaws and you take the three welding rods and hold them together like a triangle.Right. And you just come across them, wrap them tight, tight, tight in dental floss till it becomes one piece of metal. Right. And then you just. And there were using those and they were about the equivalent of an ice pick when you fucking sharpen them down, but you could poke somebody. And usually when you poke them, there's not a lot of blood too fast.Cause you're just poking them and nobody can really see the amount of damage that's been done. So if you poke them in the liver, the kidney, they could die two hours later. And I even know it, you know what I'm saying? And that's so there's different reasons, but I've seen the effects of like he's saying, poking somebody with an ice pick.It's actually a good choice of weapon in prison. All right. So w what was it? So then w the other part that I wanted to ask you is, so they got you, the, the prison, medics, they got you seated up and like, how big, how long is that? Oh, the Q-tips probably like, oh bro, probably about a foot long. Maybe they don't put the whole Q-tip in your back, but it looks like a Q-tip it's something would like this cotton on the end and that's how they can tell how far it went in.You get in there. Okay. You're good. But I mean, they did that with the native dude, told him he was good and he wasn't, he was internally bleeding, like you just said, hit him in the liver, the kidneys or something. And he died, bro. Right? Yeah. So how bad does it hurt when they stick that Q-tip in your, in your dude?Honestly, dude, I was so hyped up. My adrenaline was pumping, dude. I didn't really even feel it to be honest with you, but I felt that, you know, hours later, my, I couldn't even get off the ground. I could not stand up. All right, man. It, and then they tried to charge you for defending yourself, right? They did.They well, they, they sent it over to the FBI and the FBI declined process. But they did find me guilty at a disciplinary hearing. And they said, because after he stabbed me, I was free. He ran away. I chased him. So if I would have killed that dude, that day, that would have been a body, bro. They would have charged me.They would took me to federal court for killing him because I was already free. I was already safe. I chased him and killed him if I would've killed him. And so like, it's interesting because there is a legal, there is a legal concept, which is like, yeah, in the outside, not in prison, you can get into a fight.And if you defend yourself and you use proportionate force, usually then you won't be in trouble for, you know, shooting, punching whatever it is to get yourself out of a situation. But once the guy gets away and you're in the clear now then a lot of times we'll say you can't go chase that guy down, but prisons a different environment.Like that's not, I mean, yeah, the guy might get away and you might not be in trouble. If that guy stays alive, you're still in danger. Right? Well, that, that was my mistake, bro. When I knocked him out that day, one of us was supposed to leave. I let him stay. I let him stay. I should've pounded them out until, you know, one of us, we went to the hole and rolled, it comes out, one gets transferred.I never made that mistake ever again. If I had a problem with you, bro, you're handling them either I'm leaving or you're leaving, you know what I mean? Right, right, right, right. We're not staying here, not together. So, and then, so then other places, right, Chad, uh, it talks about the innovative aspect of a lot of prisoners, their minds are and everything.What was the most impressive knife you ever saw in prison that was home? The most impressive knife I've ever seen. I've seen two bad-ass knives, bro. One was a native American dude had a deer antler bro. And this shit was sharpened with the buffer homie. This was the most, I was like, wow, bro. He took the deer antler.I was like a weird deer antler. Like it didn't break off and go and curse. It was just a straight deer antler, but almost completely straight. And it was probably 10, 11 inches long dude. And it was dangerous. How do you get a deer antler in the prison dude, they got like these ceremonies they have and you get all kinds of shit, uh, under the right contact.What was the other night? They get it tobacco too, right? Yeah. The other knife was mine. I had a little beef with this dude from California named Sparky. Right. For real dude. He didn't like me. I didn't like him. And you know, usually you see that dude, you know, in prison like the east coast dudes in the west coast.It ain't always, it ain't always, you know, gravy, you know what I mean? So even though we were both white we're beefing in, in one day in the day room, I'm like, Hey, listen, bro, stop with the bullshit man at night, like yelling and shit. And for really took off on me. He hit me. Boom, boom, boom. I hit him. And then they're like, yo, there's this older white dude there, man, that everybody respected from Texas.And he's like, look, man, you guys gotta go ahead and shoot the Fairmont. So honestly do we ended up going in the, in the TV room and shooting the fair one, but that's because that dude intervene, but, and not on no tough guy shit, but dude, I rock this dude. Right? And then I, you know, UFC was big at that time.I'm like watching UFC somehow I got lucky dude put them in a little choke hold, Luna, put them to sleep. He was snoring. And when the cops came, he drugged me and I kicked him off me. They were like, let them go. Let them go. And I kicked him off me dude. And it was the loudest snore I ever heard, but I did not want to let this do go because I seen the knife that he had.I didn't expect him to take off on me. He was the butcher. He had a piece of steel. That looked like a butcher knife and it really wasn't. It was just a piece of steel. That was probably 12 feet looked like a chop. I think that video of that brother dancing around with that night, however, the hell they bent this thing over.However, they bent this thing over. I have no idea, dude, but it had a grip on it. And I'm thinking if this dude makes it back to his cell, I'm in danger. Right. So I was glad that the older white dude kind of was like, yo look, man, we went in the white TV room dude, and we just got, they have different TV rooms back then black TV room, sports, TV room, white TV room.And we just went in there and got it, man. You used the, um, you said, shoot a fair one. Can you just describe that for a lot of people? Who, what does that mean? Okay. So there's not a lot of fair ones in federal prison. Let's get that clear. Right. But once in a while, man, you can work it out where there's a fair amount.A fair one is just one-on-one. Your people aren't involved. Let's say he's from the west coast and out from the east coast. Let's say I got the east coast car. He's got the west coast car, but he's not going to get his people involved. I'm not going to get my people involved and we're just going, we're going to fight one-on-one man to man and let the best man win right on.So what was your process for writing the book? There's a lot of guys that get out, they've got great stories, a story to tell, how did you manage to, or what was your writing process to get this book out? All right. So I ended up going to the hole, right? As crazy as it sounds in 2008, I'm in the hole with my homeboy man that got stabbed like 30 something times.And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna write a book about this shit. Cause I was in the hole, reading these books that dudes wrote in federal prison that running like Lowe's and camps. And I'm like, they ain't telling this. They can't tell our story because they never lived here. I sit in the shit that I've experienced in here.I'm going to write this shit. And I started writing like a rough draft. And then I put it away for a couple years and then I'd pull it out. And then when I won my case, I said, man, I'm about to finish this book. This might be my stepping stone to make a couple of dollars to get on my feet. Right. So I wrote that book, man, nonstop.After I found out I won my case. The crazy part is I was supposed to get out June 5th. My family comes to pick me up in Kentucky, bro. I see them in the parking lot. I'm walking down and they call on the walkie. He stopped him. There's an appeal. Stop him immediately. The prosecutor filed an appeal. Dude. Ittears me up a little bit, but uh, see everybody ain't always, you know, in all the time tough. Right. But uh, yeah, dude, I see my family right there, man. And they, they, they turned me around and because the cops had a little respect for me, cause all the time I had him, he said, Hey, you got clothes. I'll do. I didn't have any clothes because my family brought the clothes.We're going to go to the hotel, take a shower change and do all that. But if I had clothes out and made it out, so they did like three or four dudes before me. And then when I was going, I'm walking out and just my sweat and my little prison hat and all that shit, they end up calling on the walkie talkie.They stopped me putting me back in there. My lawyer, who was the dude that prosecuted John Gotti as a prosecutor, became a federal judge. Uh, John Gleason Gleason. He was a federal judge for 22 years. He ended up taking on my case pro bono at the end, he filed an appeal immediately doing it. Three weeks later, I ended up getting out, but the government filed an appeal due the night before I got out.Bro, can you believe that? How are those three weeks, man? How are the three and a half weeks? I'm thinking I'm getting out. I mean, for like three months, I think yo, I'm getting. Right. And the day I'm supposed to get out, dude, they turned me around. I'm telling you I was 10 feet away from the gate, bro. I was already outside.How do you, how do you not lose your shit? And just go ballistic and kicking ass, everybody. Like, how do you keep yourself contained? I don't know. Do I did a video about this? I didn't keep myself contained. Um, I ended up doing something, man, with someone at the end of my bid dude, they thought I was someone else.And they stole my radio on my headphones. Fun. I went and ripped the pull off the shower. And you know, I probably shouldn't talk about this publicly, but fuck it, man. It is what it is. Right. I went and he's dude sales dude, and these dudes were smoking

This week on the show, William and Scott are presenting an interview with Alice and Dolly, who are two people working toward Disability Justice and Mad Activism (among other things), about the prevalence of movement misogyny in antifascist currents, world building as antifascist and as community defense, ways to rethink harmful patterns in movements, and some things we can do to make each other safer. The show initially got in touch with these guests based on a Twitter thread that they co-authored about these issues. Check out our podcast at our website later today for a longer conversation. You can follow Alice on Twitter @gothbotAlice. Further reading Intentional Peer Support (alternative mental health support structure) adrienne maree brown also our recent interview with them Audre Lorde Tema Okun's essay "White Supremacy Culture" Announcement Phone Zap for Rashid from RashidMod.com ​On July 12 Kevin “Rashid” Johnson was transferred from Wabash Valley prison in Indiana to the custody of the Ohio Department of Corrections, being brought directly to their intake center in Orient. He would remain there for less than three weeks before being sent to Lucasville prison on July 30th. ... More details in the actual post, listed above at Rashidmod... For Virginia: #1007485 For Indiana: #264847 For Ohio: #A787991 Demands: 1.

Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/freemepodcast/home George Is Locked up for life on Death Row for the now famous Lucasville riots. His family, friends and even the victims family have been crying for Georges innocence on that day. This is a phone call to staff for information they have been avoiding. @spotify @anchor.fm @appletunes @itunes @iheartradio @pandora #lucasvilleriots #skatzes #murdermystery #murder #deathrow #inmates #trauma #mentalhealth #stigma #freemepodcast --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thethomasfreemepodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thethomasfreemepodcast/support

Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/freemepodcast/home George Is Locked up for life on Death Row for the now famous Lucasville riots. His family, friends and even the victims family have been crying for Georges innocence on that day. This is a phone call to staff for information they have been avoiding. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/freemepodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/freemepodcast/support

In episode 10 of Season 4; OUR SEASON FINALE, Heather discusses the infamous murder duo Alton Coleman and Debra Brown. Coleman and Brown entered into a master-slave relationship with one another and took to the road where they traveled across multiple states, murdering several individuals; including children. On July 17, 1984; Alton Coleman became the 388th fugitive on FBI’s 10 Most Wanted List. Finally, the authorities catch up to and apprehend Alton and Debra on July 20, 1984 in Evanston, Illinois. However, the damage had already been done. This was after 8 murders, 7 rapes, 3 kidnappings, and 14 armed robberies. More than 50 law enforcement officials from Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio met to strategize how the two would be charged for their heinous acts across all 6 states. Since the officials all agreed that they wanted BOTH defendants to face the death penalty, it didn’t take long for them to decide to give Ohio first dibs at prosecuting them. The state of Ohio convicted Coleman and Brown, finding them guilty of the rape and murder of Tonnie Storey in Cincinnati and Marlene Walters in Norwood, but not for the murder of Virginia Temple and Rachelle Temple in Toledo. Coleman and Brown were both sentenced to death and the appeals process began. Coleman's case was sent to the U.S. Supreme Court several times between 1985 and 2002, but his numerous arguments that his conviction and death sentence were unconstitutional failed to sway the justices.Alton Coleman was executed via lethal injection at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville, Ohio on April 26, 2002, reciting Psalm 23 from the Bible. His last meal was…well, HUGE.As for Debra Brown…she has not had her last meal. In fact, she will not have a last meal – in the traditional death row way. Her sentence was commuted to life in prison due to mitigating circumstances and her low IQ scores. Brown is serving her sentence without possibility of parole at the Dayton Correctional Institution in Dayton, Ohio. Find your favorite platform, buy merch, find sources, and more!https://linktr.ee/nvnpodcast Call/text us: 1-513-549-5735Email us: naturevsnarcissism@gmail.com Send us things:PO Box 498396Cincinnati, Ohio 45249

Episode Description: The 11-day prison siege/riot at Southern Ohio Correctional Facility. Also known as the nation’s longest prison riot. Written SOURCES:Chronology of 1993 Lucasville, Ohio, prison riot Lucasville Prison Uprising - 21 DemandsThe Lucasville Uprising: New DiscoveriesVideo Source:Captive - Season 1 Episode 1 on NetflixPhoto Source: IMDB Prison Riot, USA (TV Episode 2016)Lucasville Prison Riot Photo GalleryWhere to find ABCrimes:Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/abcrimespodcast/Email- abcrimes@gmail.comWebsite - https://abcrimespodcast.buzzsprout.comEpisode is Not LivePublish: Dec. 09, 2020 @12PM EditPublishAdd a TranscriptGet episode better indexed by search engines.Add Chapter MarkersListeners can tap through & see what’s coming up.Create a Visual SoundbiteBest way to share to social media for engagement.Share Episode OnFacebookTwitterLinkedInMore OptionsEmail Link to Episode CopyDirect Link to MP3 Copy Download MP3Embed this ONE Episode

My name's Don Brown 468895; I'm calling from Ohio. This is called "Racism and the United States Penal System." I'm sure that y'all are all aware of the racism that plagues our penal system within the United States. From the moment that we are ushered into the prison, we are segregated and either forced to join a gang or fend for ourselves, which in most cases end badly for the person that refuses to join the gang. I have renounced the gang that I used to belong to and the debt that was put on my head, and an unsuccessful attempt was made on my life for sloppily holding my insights in. And I've often wondered if there were a way to maintain or even achieve a system that renounces gang violence and all racist ideology. Since 2014, I have tried to get a [inaudible] within the institutions. We can not only educate individuals on false ideology or these [inaudible] beliefs, but also try to teach our studies, beliefs of superiority and/or fanaticism are wrong on every level. The realization swept over me. The reality is, at least within the state of Ohio, I feel as though this would never be a success story because the truth is the administration not only wants to keep the racial hatred sung and the race-based violence up, but it also promote and encourage it. I know it's firsthand knowledge that this is a fact and not a mere allegation. I have had guards come up to me and offered to pay me to have a black inmate assaulted and several other people that I know as well. They will keep the gangs fighting by telling one gang that they heard another gang plotting on one of their members. This happens within the black gangs and the white gangs as well. People often say that prison officials want to keep the gang violence down because that helps to reform the inmates.  This is the truth. They want to keep the gangs and the racists fighting and at each other's throats due to one simple thing: if they keep the gang and the races fighting, then they will never have to worry about another riot that happened in Lucasville, Ohio in 1992. I have sent letters to the directors of Ohio prisons and also to learn classes on this topic. And I was shut down every time to the fact that I have a statewide hit out on me. I said that someone else could do the [inaudible] and needs to be ran. I wrote up a plan and program, but the state has shut it down time and time again. I think if they were going to actually look at the good that this will do, instead of thinking about federal dollars, then a lot of these racial hatred and racial violence could stop. You need to stop the federal dollars and look at what's really going on. We need to end the racism, stop the hatred, and look towards our future. Thank you. My name is Don Brown and I'm calling from Ohio. (Sound of a cell door closing.) These commentaries are recorded by Noelle Hanrahan of Prison Radio.

The West Cork Murder (1996) & the Lucasville Prison Riots (1993).

The post “Don’t Be On the Side of the Executioners”: In Conversation with Bomani Shakur appeared first on It's Going Down. On April 11th, 1993, prisoners launched an uprising at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility, outside of the town of Lucasville. The uprising was marked by prisoners across racial, religious, and gang lines coming together to push a set of demands. Graffiti written throughout the prison spoke to this reality, with slogans like “Convict Race” and... Read Full Article

Del Duduit is an award-winning freelance writer, blogger and author from Lucasville, OH. He is represented by Cyle Young, Hartline Literary Agency. He is the author of Buckeye Believer: 40 Days of Devotions for the Ohio State Faithful (2018, BY Books) Bengal Believer: 40 Who-Dey-Votions for the Cincinnati Faithful (2019 BY Books) Dugout Devotions: Inspirational Hits from MLB’s Best, (2019, New Hope Publishers) and First Down Devotions; Inspirations from NFL’s Best (2019, New Hope Publishers). As a former sports writer, he won both Associated Press and Ohio Prep Sports writing awards. Del’s articles have appeared in Athletes in Action, Clubhouse Magazine, http://OhioStatehousenews.com, Sports Spectrum, The Portsmouth Daily Times, The Sports Column, One Christian Voice, The Christian View Online Magazine, and Portsmouth Metro Magazine. His blogs have appeared on One Christian Voice and its national affiliates across the country, on http://ToddStarnes.com and on Almost an Author and The Write Conversation. In 2020, Del and his agent will release Michigan Motivations, and he will also release Bama Believer: 40 Days of Devotions for the Roll Tide Faithful, and Auburn Believer: 40 Days of Devotions for the Tiger Faithful, from New Hope Publishers. Then in 2021, he will release three more devotional books. Dugout Devotions: New Hope Publishers: http://bit.ly/ShopDugoutDevotions Amazon: https://amzn.to/2UxqWIx First Down Devotions: New Hope: http://bit.ly/newhopefirstdown Amazon: https://bit.ly/FirstDownDevotions Michigan Motivations: release in July https://amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07Z1SKP7N?ref_=dbs_P_W_othr_edtn

On Easter Sunday, April 11, 1993, 450 prisoners rioted at the maximum security Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville, OH. The ensuing standoff between rioters and law enforcement lasted 11 days, and ended with the deaths of one corrections officer and 9 inmates. 

Some say long-time Hamilton County trial Judge Robert Ruehlman is controversial. There's no doubt he's tough – and can be tough-talking from the bench. Ruehlman has been in the news a lot in the past year, notably for his public lambasting of Cincinnati City Council's so-called "Gang of Five" Democrats and for not hesitating to call ICE on suspected illegal immigrants.  But there's also a human side to the West Side Republican. He showed that in an in-depth interview this week on The Enquirer's That's So Cincinnati podcast. Specifically, Ruehlman went into details about how the case of early 1980s serial killer Michael Beuke has affected him. Ruehlman was the prosecutor on the case of the so-called "Mad Hitchhiker." Beuke, who was from West Price Hill, had gone on a nearly monthlong shooting spree across Greater Cincinnati in 1983. He committed his crimes after being picked up as a hitchhiker.  Beuke was convicted that year for murdering one man and also found guilty for the attempted slayings of two other men. He was sentenced to the death penalty by then-Judge Norbert Nadel. The state executed Beuke in 2010.  Here are some samples of Ruehlman's podcast interview reflecting on Beuke:  Ruehlman said Bueke's life is example of the dangers of bullying. The case made Ruehlman impress upon his seven children to never bully. "Everybody made fun of him because he was kind of funny looking. He was kind of frail. They called him 'Pukey Beuke'. And then one day he just decided he was gonna start killing people. ... You feel sorry for him, but he has a brutal killer."  Ruehlman called the Lucasville prison several times on the day Beuke was executed by lethal injection. Ruehlman, who became a judge in the late 1980s, said he kept getting reports that Beuke was still talking even after receiving the injection. "I was kind of nervous because, believe it or not, just from a religious point of view, I'd never been in favor of the death penalty. But I believe in following the law as a judge. Killing somebody? Yeah. I was involved in his execution. It was that the first person that I was (involved with in a death penalty case). It was hard, although he deserved it. Ruehlman also addresses why he calls ICE. And he talks about life away from the bench, including his decadeslong passion for scuba diving and spearfishing. He regularly dives off Key West and in the Ohio River. Yes, the Ohio River. And you won't believe some of the things he's found at the bottom of the big muddy.  Click the Audioboom link above to listen for free. Or subscribe and listen for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart Radio and most other listening platforms. 

Capital punishment has been a part of Ohio's justice system since early in the state's history. From 1803, when Ohio became a state, until 1885, executions were carried out by public hanging in the county where the crime was committed. In February of 2002, Ohio's 105-year-old electric chair AKA "Old Sparky" was unplugged. At this point in time, it hadn't been used for 39 years! It was transferred to the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville until the Ohio Historical Society decides what to do with it. So, what happened to Old Sparky?In part 2 of this bonus episode, Heather is joined yet again by the amazing Karen to tell you all about how the death penalty in Ohio led to Old Sparky's birth and demise. If you haven't listened to part 1 yet, please stop and go back to part 1 to obtain the full understanding. Part 2 has more information about the urban legend(s) surrounding Old Sparky as well as some pretty interesting historical information and pop culture references.Subscribe to: Disembodied Special thanks to Karen (@disembodiedpod) for her help with this episode! Facebook @ohio88podcastInstagram @ohio88podcastTwitter @88_podcastPatreon https://www.patreon.com/ohio88Email – ohio88podcast@gmail.comThe music used in this episode is by Jahzzar and is called Thin Line. You can listen to/download this track via http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jahzzar/Crime_Scene/Thin_Line Most of our sources are mentioned in the episode & below. For those that are not, you can email us at ohio88podcast@gmail.com Sourceshttp://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/byrd760.htm https://www.cleveland19.com/story/681241/ohios-electric-chair-dismantled-put-into-storage/ https://shawshanktrail.com/ https://www.mrps.org/learn/history/the-ohio-penitentiary https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/timeline-capital-punishment-ohio/advboxV51KLd8rMWit8RyL/

Authors on the Air Global Radio Network host and thriller writer Eliot Parker interviews Del Duduit. Del Duduit is an award-winning sportswriter and author. He has been published in Clubhouse Magazine, Sports Spectrum, and on ToddStarnes.com. He is a contributing writer for Athletes in Action, The Christian View, Bridges Magazine, and PM Magazine. He is the co-editor for Southern Ohio Christian Voice and blogs weekly at delduduit.com. He lives in Lucasville, Ohio, with his wife Angie. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/eliot-parker/support

  Kuwasi Balagoon: A Soldier's Story This week we had the chance to interview Matt Meyer, who, among many other pursuits, is a retired professor and an editor of A Soldier's Story: Revolutionary Writings by a New Afrikan Anarchist, out from PM Press, which highlights the life and writings of Kuwasi Balagoon. Balagoon was a defendant in the Panther 21 case in the late 1960s, in which 21 people were arrested and accused of planned coordinated bombing and long-range rifle attacks on two police stations and an education office in New York City. He was ultimately acquitted of this, but was caught up on charges related to a robbery some time later and passed in prison in 1986. Sean Swain at 2:48 Matt Meyer on Kuwasi Balagoon at 11:44 Support Matt Hinkston announcement at 1:06:08 In this interview, Bursts and Matt discuss Balagoon's life and writings and why this book is especially relevant right now. They'll talk about his abiding love for his comrades, a things which seems to have driven much of his politics, and his queerness, an aspect of his life which seemed very important and also complex. Stay tuned to the end of the conversation for questions submitted to The Final Straw by imprisoned anarchist Michael Kimble, who has been a guest on this show and is an admirer of Kuwasi. To see more of Michael's work and to write to him, you can visit anarchylive.noblogs.org . ... . .. Support Matt Hinkston! Police violence in Lucasville-Southern Ohio Correctional Facility. Call Monday in support of Matt Hinkston (A724969). Matt is the brother of Mustafa, who Bursts interviewed a few weeks back. Matt Hinkston (A724969) is being retaliated against for filing a PREA (Prison Rape Elimination Act) grievance against a correctional officer and for having gone on hunger strikes in protest of human rights violations against himself and others in the past. One of the main officers who has been mistreating him is named Officer Lawless. They've put him in solitary confinement without a disciplinary ticket and restricted his access to communication. Although correctional officers claim that Matt has been put in solitary confinement for his protection, they're also denying him access to his property and to technology for communicating with the outside world. Incarcerated people's  lives and human rights matter. Nobody should be sent to solitary for filing a PREA report against a guard. Let's call Lucasville this weekend and Monday at 740-259-5544 to: -ask for a wellness check on Matthew Hinkston, A#724969 -tell officials in the Warden's area and on Matt's block that we support Matt's demands and oppose continued retaliation against him for filing a PREA grievance. Support Matt in this continued struggle against police violence, racism, and rape culture! . ... . ..   Finally, thank you to everyone who replied in response to our 9th anniversary podcast special in which me and Bursts interviewed each other about why we do what we do, some personal backstory for each of us, and opinions on media in general. We also used the opportunity to solicit listeners for another co host, to share the work load and extend the option in case there was anyone out there who was interested. We got way more responses than we ever thought we would, and are working through to answer them in as complete and responsible a way as possible. If your interest is piqued and you wanna hear this episode, it's up on our website along with all our other archived material. . ... . .. Music at the beginning of the show was an instrumental version of Hip Hop by Dead Prez off of Let's Get Free.

More than 85,000 cops have been investigated or disciplined for misconduct over the past decade. And that is just the beginning. Get all of the details in this episode. What's in the News with stories on Social Security in trouble, collateral damage, bad boys times three, and a jailed hero update. And, an Ask Me Anything segment where I answer your burning questions on homesteading abandoned property, property taken through coercion, reparations for the military draft, best books for liberty, and my favorite caliber of ammo. This episode is brought to you by Health Excellence Plus, a health share that has saved my family thousands of dollars, and can save you money too. Also, brought to you by ForkFest, the third annual decentralized libertarian camping event that happens right before PorcFest, with no tickets and no one in charge. WHAT'S RUSTLING MY JIMMIES At least 85,000 law enforcement officers across the USA have been investigated or disciplined for misconduct over the past decade, an investigation by USA TODAY Network found. Officers have beaten members of the public, planted evidence and used their badges to harass women. They have lied, stolen, dealt drugs, driven drunk and abused their spouses. Despite their role as public servants, the men and women who swear an oath to keep communities safe can generally avoid public scrutiny for their misdeeds. WHAT'S IN THE NEWS In debt news, Social Security is facing a $42.1 trillion shortfall according to the Trustees report. In collateral damage news, according to Amnesty International researchers, along with the monitoring group Airwars, coalition airstrikes in Raqqa, Syria killed at least 1,600 civilians, which is more than 10 times what they US said. Imagine that. In bad boys news, in an extremely disturbing video, four black men were chained to a table in Lucasville, Ohio prison while a single white man was allowed access to a knife and brutally stab them. The graphic and hard to watch video is now the subject of a federal lawsuit filed earlier this month in the Southern District of Ohio. In more bad boys news, a sunbather in California found out there's no SPF strong enough to protect against cars after a police cruiser accidentally ran her over And in even more bad boys news, body camera footage was just released showing two Connecticut cops jump out of their vehicles and attempt to murder an innocent unarmed couple. In hero news, Chelsea Manning has been ordered to stay in jail after a federal court rejects her appeal. ASK ME ANYTHING It's that time again! I'm going to answer your burning questions! I answer your burning questions on homesteading abandoned property, property taken through coercion, reparations for the military draft, best books for liberty, and my favorite caliber of ammo.

The panel discusses new developments for Cincinnati Metropolitan Housing Authority, the Cincinnati Bengals returning to London, a rascally raccoon, a rash of unusual traffic accidents and more. Later, WCPO reporter Jasmine Minor joins to discuss a new lawsuit that alleges prison staff at Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville "knowingly and intentionally" allowed a white inmate to stab four black inmates who were handcuffed to a table. Notable links: Cincinnati Metropolitan Housing Authority retains developers to renovate affordable housing Cincinnati Metropolitan Housing Authority CEO resigns Date and time set for Bengals game in London Bengals release 2019 schedule, open at Seattle Raccoon's spring break-in cancels classes at South Avondale Elementary WATCH: Video shows semi fall 30 feet from I-471 overpass in Mount Adams Police arrest driver accused in Downtown hit-and-run crash that hurt another driver, worker PD: Good Samaritan hit while helping crash victim in West End Suit: Prison guards failed to protect handcuffed black inmates from white inmate with knife

Columbus Dispatch public affairs editor Darrel Rowland and reporter Marty Schladen discuss Ohio’s dilemma with a death row inmate scheduled for execution February 13th, even though a federal judge ruled last week that Ohio’s execution protocol is akin to fatal “waterboarding.” Ohio’s execution method likened to waterboarding, fire in veins - but won’t change

This week's episode covers the situation in the Midwest. We hear from Ben and Aaron, who work on supporting prisoners in Ohio and Indiana, respectively. Ben informs about Ohio prisoners who are still facing repercussions from the 1993 Lucasville uprising. We've introduced Lucasville in previous episodes of Kite Line, including an early episode focusing on …

The world is a dangerous place in 2018-Botham Jean is murdered in his own home by a Dallas cop and police are actively raiding the rebel encampment in the Hambach Forest. There's inspiring strike resistance in Central and South America where striking dockworkers in Chile caused thousands of dollars in damage and a general strike in taking place in Costa Rica. Hurricane Florence took Wilmington by storm and we interview anarchists on the ground doing disaster relief. There are quite a few prisoners who need support and we read excerpts from a heartfelt statement issued by prisoners at the Burnside Prison in Halifax who are ending their strike. Anarchists in London are trying something new! And there's lots of events coming up! Send us news, events, or ideas on how our show can better serve anarchist activity in your town by emailing us at podcast@crimethinc.com. {September 19, 2018}   -------SHOW NOTES------   Table of Contents: Introduction {0:00} Headlines {1:15} Evictions in Hambach Forest {5:42} Strikes! in Costa Rica and Chile {11:10} Interview w Anarchists in Wilmington after Hurricane Florence {13:22} Explosions in Hanover {22:31} Repression roundup {25:45} Next Week's News {34:52} Download 29:30 minutes long version Autonomous Mutual Aid in the wake of Hurricane Florence Donate to Grassroots Hurricane Relief, in Durham, NC, or Mutual Aid Supplies Relief NC You can contact Tidewater IWW in the Norfolk, VA area, Mutual Aid Carrboro, Mutual Aid Disaster Relief or Blue Ridge Autonomous Defense Crew in North Carolina Donate to relief efforts around Andover and Lawrence, Massachusetts after an explosions and fires rocked their communities: Bread And Roses Lawrence, Lazarus House shelter, Elevated Thought , or Greater Lawrence Community Action Council. Upcoming anarchist book fairs and events: September 28–30: The 12th annual Balkan Anarchist Bookfair in Novi Sad, Serbia Anarchist book and propaganda gathering in Santiago, Chile October 13 and 14, encuentroanarquista.org. 20 and 21 in London, England, instead of an anarchist bookfair comrades there are organizing a decentralized anarchist festival! Help defend long term anarchist spaces: On September 29, there is a demo at 6 PM in defense of Liebig34, a self-organized, anarcha-queer-feminist collective house and social center in Berlin! And fund new ones: The Aftonomi Space in Yogyakarta, Indonesia is raising funds to equip their infoshop! Upcoming anti-fascist action: September 29: Oppose the League of the South's rally in Elizabethton, TN. Stay tuned to @HollerNetwork and @knoxradical for updates. Help fund defense for antifa arrested in Newnan, Georgia! In the next episode of Trouble, subMedia explores hiphop as a potent site of revolutionary politics. It drops on September 25th at 8pm on sub.media Other relevant CrimethInc. material: Learn more about the legacy of the September 11, 1973 coup in Chile through the insurrectionary documentary The Chicago Conspiracy Hotwire #3, Hotwire #6, and Hotwire #9 have interviews about mutual aid based, autonomous relief efforts in Texas, Florida, and Puerto Rico. Evictions HAVE BEGUN in the Hambach Forest! If you're in Europe, make your way to the Hambach Forest in Germany to help defend it, and the radical Ewok village of forest defenders who live there. Also, check out our audio documentary about the forest and the defense campaign to stop the cutting. Sales are OPEN for the 2019 Certain Days: Freedom for Political Prisoners calendar! The theme of next year's calendar is Health/Care, and it features art and writing from current and former political prisoners like David Gilbert, Mike and Chuck Africa, and Laura Whitehorn. If you buy 10 or more, be sure to use the discount code “BULK” to get 10 or more calendars for $10 each—you can then sell the calendars to fundraise for your own organizing. Orders start shipping September 10! Call in to support Imam Hasan, Silenced on Death Row in Ohio! Sample script can be found here. Use this straightforward guide to writing prisoners from New York City Anarchist Black Cross to write Greg Curry, who was unjustly targeted after the Lucasville uprising: Greg Curry #213–159 OSP 878 Coitsville-Hubbard Rd Youngstown, OH 44505 USA September 26th is his birthday and he's asking people to make T-shirts that say “Free Greg Curry” on them, with “GregCurry.org” on the back and send photos of yourself wearing it to his Facebook page! We have a Twitter! Follow @HotwireWeekly and send us news that we should include in the show. Corrections and Clarifications The looting discussed in our interview took place at a Family Dollar, not at a Dollar General.    

Matt Keeney is a father, husband, fitness enthusiast and owner of Dreamboat Fitness, based in Lucasville, Ohio.

This Hotwire we bring you an interview with an anarchist in Managua about the past few weeks of anti-government revolt in Nicaragua. We also report on the arrests of anti-fascists in Georgia, a school bus drivers' strike also in Georgia, a hunger strike in San Diego's jails, and community resistance to ICE raids in North Carolina. Next week we'll bring you our regular episode a day late, but look out for a May Day special we're releasing to tide you over—and don't forget to e-mail us your May Day action reports at podcast@crimethinc.com! {April 25, 2018}   -------SHOW NOTES------   Table of Contents: Introduction {0:00} Headlines {1:30} Interview: A Week of Revolt in Nicaragua {16:40} Repression Roundup {27:10} Next Week's News {32:55} Download 29:30 minutes long version Events this weekend: April 26–29: The Southeast Trans and/or Women Action Camp in the smoky mountains of western North Carolina. Find out more by e-mailing setwac@protonmail.com.   April 26–28: the Anarchist Black Cross solidarity festival at EKH in Vienna, Austria. April 28–29: The Revolutionary Organizing Against Racism Conference (ROAR) returns to Ohlone land, the so-called Bay Area, California, in both Oakland and San Francisco. April 29: MACC in NYC is hosting a pre-May Day gathering in Tompkins Square Park at 1 PM. MAY DAY! In Montreal, anarchists will gather at 6 PM on the corner of Amherst and Sherbrooke. New York City: anarchist contingent in the big May Day march. Durham, NC: autonomous actions and a march starting at the old Durham Police headquarters at 6 PM. Seattle, WA: decentralized, autonomous actions Olympia. WA: decentralized, autonomous actions Portland, OR: coordinated, decentralized actions Eugene, OR: a really free market at the First Christian Church on Oak Street. Los Angeles, CA: a disruptive march Make sure to e-mail your May Day action reports to podcast@CrimethInc.com by May 2 so we can include them in our May Day roundup. Fundraising: Donate to the anti-fascists arrested in Newnan, Georgia on Saturday while protesting against neo-Nazis. Donate to the legal support fund for the four people charged over last year's May Day actions in Olympia. Other podcasts mentioned on this Hotwire: Unicorn Riot and End of the Line podcast are keeping people up to date as the struggle against the Mountain Valley Pipeline unfolds. We sample Alanis' aetheistic rant from The Ex-Worker Holiday Special before we lambast The Church of Satan. Hotwire 19 describes the anti-ICE organizing going on in Koreatown, Los Angeles. Episode 50 of The Ex-Worker has an interview with about the Lucasville prison uprising and how it informs contemporary prison rebellion and organizing We sampled the 99% Invisible episode “Church (Sanctuary, Part 1)” when discussing the sanctuary movement of the 1980s. Part 2 is also great. Get inspired to do something AWESOME for May Day by listening to the very first episode of The Ex-Worker, which is all about Haymarket. Anarchist texts related to this Hotwire: From Confronting Fascists to Facing the Police State: Reflections on the Anti-Fascist Mobilization in Newnan, Georgia God and the State by Mikhail Bakunin June 11: The History of a Day of Anarchist Prisoner Solidarity The May Days: Snapshots from the History of May Day Start gearing up for a summer of anarchy in Quebec! The anarchist film festival (May 17–20 in Montreal) The Montreal International Anarchist Theatre Festival (May 22–23 in Montreal) The Montreal Anarchist Bookfair (May 26–27 in Montreal) The North American Anarchist Studies Network Conference (June 1–3 in Montreal) Anti-G7 mobilization (June 7–9 in Quebec City) Mutual Aid Disaster Relief tour April 25, 26, and 27 at 5:00 PM at Youth Initiative High School 500 East Jefferson St Viroqua, WI 54665 April 28 at 5:30 PM at Menomonie Market Food Co-op 814 Main Street E Menomonie, WI 54751 April 29 at 10:00 AM at Family & Learning Center 523 Cedar Ave. E. Menomonie, WI 54751 May 2 at 6:00 PM at Walker Community Church 3104 16th Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55407 May 3 at 6:00 PM at UROC 2001 Plymouth Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55411 Use this straightforward guide to writing prisoners from New York City Anarchist Black Cross to write birthday greetings to political prisoner Janine Phillips Africa. Janine Phillips Africa #006309 SCI Cambridge Springs 451 Fullerton Avenue Cambridge Springs, Pennsylvania 16403 {Birthday: April 25} Also, please write a letter to Cedar, a comrade in Ontario who is in jail over conspiracy charges stemming from the March 5 anti-gentrification march in Hamilton, Ontario. Please address the envelope to Peter Hopperton and the letters to Cedar: Peter Hopperton Hamilton-Wentworth Detention Centre 165 Barton St East Hamilton ON L8L 2W6 Phone zaps: Call the warden of Central Ohio Correctional Facility at 330–743–0700 and use this script: “Hello, my name is _____. I'm calling to demand you reverse Friday's policy changes that imposed new restrictions on prisoners impacted by the Lucasville uprising. None of these prisoners violated any rules and there's no justification for rolling back important policies that help them survive the 25 years of solitary confinement the ODRC has cruelly subjected them to.” Support the 200+ hunger strikers in Santa Clara County Jails by calling the Sheriff Administration at 408–808–4900 or the Board of Supervisors at 408–299–5001 and demanding that they enter into negotiations with the hunger strikers. Call DeKalb County, GA School Superintendent Stephen Green at 678–676–1200 to demand immediate reinstatement, with no pay lost, of all fired drivers. You can use this script: “Hello, my name is ________. I would like to let you know that I support the school bus drivers. I think it is shameful that the immediate reaction in response to the sick- out was to fire drivers, rather than to negotiate with them. The drivers have a right to organize without fear of retaliation, including by withdrawing their labor. I support their efforts to improve their jobs, and demand that the district immediately reinstate all fired drivers, with no pay lost and no other kind of discipline. None of the drivers who participated should be retaliated against. I also demand that the district immediately recognize the drivers committee and begin negotiating with them. Will you agree to rehire the drivers and recognize their committee?” Call the City of Olympia prosecutor's office at 360–753–8449 to demand they drop the charges against the four May Day defendants. J20 support resources: POSTER: The J20 Prosecution—Trumped up Charges J20 Legal Defense Fund Twitter Fed book An Open Letter to Former J20 Defendants, with useful “do”s and “don't”s  Teen Vogue: The J20 Arrests and Trials, Explained Tell the prosecutor's boss to drop the charges by calling (202) 252–7566  

It's been a week of battle at La ZAD, and we share a day-to-day play-by-play of the resistance to the government's eviction operation. Elsewhere in France, the Tarnac Nine's legal victory shows that with a little luck and courage, we can beat the state. Direct action gets the goods for a university occupation against a racist student body president at Texas State University in San Marcos, we finally have an address where you can write Cedar, who is in jail on charges of conspiracy over the anti-gentrification prole stroll in Hamilton, Ontario, and we close the episode by sharing calls for May Day actions in Los Angeles, Eugene, Portland, Olympia, and Seattle. {April 18, 2018}   -------SHOW NOTES------   Table of Contents: Introduction {0:00} Down with the state and its taxes! {0:33} A week of battle over La Zad {3:25} Headlines {11:00} Legal victory for the Tarnac Nine! {20:25} Next Week's News {26:56} Download 29:30 minutes long version Check out these full reports of resistance to the eviction of la ZAD. Enough is Enough continue to have live updates in English from la ZAD. E-mail taalahooghan@protonmail.com for ways to support those facing multiple charges for allegedly defacing a police station in Arizona the same weekend as an anti-fascist, anti-colonial gathering. To hear more about Turning Point USA's alt-lite politics and campaigns of harassing leftist and anarchist presences at universities, check out the Black Rose Anarchist Federation's interview with Kristina Khan, or the IGDcast interview with Tariq Khan, an anarchist PhD candidate at the University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign. CALLS FOR MAY DAY ACTION: Los Angeles: a disruptive march Eugene, Oregon: a really free market Portland, Oregon: coordinated, decentralized actions Seattle: coordinated, decentralized actions Olympia: coordinated, decentralized actions Other shows mentioned on this Hotwire: Hotwire #26 has our interview with a participant in the Syrian Revolution, who states, “freedom and justice… can only be achieved through a struggle against all authoritarian murderous parties, whether Assad or Islamist jihadists on the one hand or Russia and the U.S. on the other hand.” Episode 50 of The Ex-Worker has an interview with about the Lucasville prison uprising and how it informs contemporary prison rebellion and organizing Get inspired to do something AWESOME for May Day by listening to the very first episode of The Ex-Worker, which is all about Haymarket. Anarchist texts mentioned in this Hotwire: We Don't Need Gun Control, We Need To Take Control June 11: The History of a Day of Anarchist Prisoner Solidarity The May Days: Snapshots from the History of May Day Start gearing up for a summer of anarchy in Quebec! The anarchist film festival (May 17–20 in Montreal) The Montreal International Anarchist Theatre Festival (May 22–23 in Montreal) The Montreal Anarchist Bookfair (May 26–27 in Montreal) The North American Anarchist Studies Network Conference (June 1–3 in Montreal) Anti-G7 mobilization (June 7–9 in Quebec City) The Southeast Trans and/or Women Action Camp, taking place April 26–29 in Western North Carolina, has had their donation page shut down twice, so if you have some bucks to spare you can donate at PayPal.me/setwac2018. Mutual Aid Disaster Relief tourdates this week: April 18 at 6 PM at University of Wisconsin – Milwaukee 2200 E Kenwood Blvd Milwaukee, WI 53211: Giving Our Best, Ready For The Worst: Community Organizing as Disaster Preparedness April 19 at 5 PM at University of Wisconsin – Rock County 2909 Kellogg Ave Janesville, WI 53546: Protectors v. Profiteers: Communities in Resistance to Disaster Capitalism April 20 at 12 PM at Angelic Organics Learning Center 1545 Rockton Rd Caledonia, IL 61011: Giving Our Best, Ready For The Worst: Community Organizing as Disaster Preparedness April 25 at 5:00 PM at Youth Initiative High School 500 East Jefferson St Viroqua, WI 54665: Protectors v. Profiteers: Communities in Resistance to Disaster Capitalism Use this straightforward guide to writing prisoners from New York City Anarchist Black Cross to write birthday greetings to political prisoners Mumia Abu-Jamal and Janine Phillips Africa. Mumia Abu-Jamal AM8335 SCI Mahanoy 301 Morea Road Frackville, Pennsylvania 17932 {Birthday: April 24} Janine Phillips Africa #006309 SCI Cambridge Springs 451 Fullerton Avenue Cambridge Springs, Pennsylvania 16403 {Birthday: April 25} Also, please write a letter to Cedar, the comrade in Ontario who was arrested last week over conspiracy charges stemming from the March 5 anti-gentrification march in Hamilton, Ontario. They are currently being held in segregation, so these letters are especially crucial for helping break the isolation they might experience in prison. Please address the envelope to Peter Hopperton, but address the letters to Cedar: Peter Hopperton Hamilton-Wentworth Detention Centre 165 Barton St East Hamilton ON L8L 2W6 J20 support resources: POSTER: The J20 Prosecution—Trumped up Charges J20 Legal Defense Fund Twitter Fed book An Open Letter to Former J20 Defendants, with useful “do”s and “don't”s  Teen Vogue: The J20 Arrests and Trials, Explained Tell the prosecutor's boss to drop the charges by calling (202) 252–7566    

25 Years After Lucasville: Two Perspectives on the Uprising This week is the 25th anniversary of the longest prison uprising in US history in which lives were lost.  The rebellion, which lasted 11 days, took place at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility, more commonly know as “Lucasville,” in April 1993.  The disturbance broke out on L Block, which housed over 400 people.  Over the course of the uprising one correction officer being held hostage and nine prisoners were killed. The most immediate cause for the riot was a group of Muslim prisoners' refusal to take a tuberculosis test which was going to be administered in a form that would have violated their religious beliefs.  But serious grievances had simmered under the surface at Lucasville for many years, and ultimately the prisoners' demands far exceeded Muslims' opposition to TB shots, addressing concerns about conditions of confinement held by the entire inmate population. After 11 days a negotiated surrender ended the siege. Prisoners gave up control of L Block in return for the state's concession to a “21 point plan” responding to their demands.  Afterwards, authorities engaged in widespread retaliation, including the targeting of five individuals who were perceived as leaders for capital offenses.  To this day, the Lucasville 5, as they are called, sit on death row for murders that numerous investigations have proven they did not commit. Prisoners still facing repercussions for the Lucasville Uprising include: Siddique Abdullah Hasan, Jason Robb, George Skatzes, Bomani Shakur & Greg Curry.   To reflect on the Lucasville uprising 25 years later, Disembodied Voice spoke with two individuals who were involved in the event in very different ways.  First, we hear from Mosi Paki, who was present on L Block during the rebellion and served 19 years, most of it in isolation, after the siege ended. We will then hear from attorney Niki Schwartz, who represented prisoners during their negotiation of the 21 point plan that ended the siege of Lucasville.   You can visit http://lucasvilleamnesty.org/ for more information and for updates on how to get involved.    To hear past episodes we've aired with interviews of former Lucasville Uprising prisoners or other topics, check out our site.   An Update on ICE Raids around Asheville This is from an official press release which came out this morning regarding continuing activity concerning ICE raids in Asheville NC: News began to arrive early this morning that ICE was continuing their activity throughout Buncombe County. Local organizers have been monitoring unmarked vehicles that have been driving through West Asheville neighborhoods and the surrounding areas. Due to these mobilization efforts, no one has been detained. CIMA and the WNC Sanctuary Movement encourage community members who fear for their safety to remember your rights. You may refuse to open your door or let ICE agents in unless the agent has a warrant signed by a Judge. If they have a warrant, you may ask for them to slide it under your door, and it must have both your correct legal name on it as well as your correct address in order for it to be valid. Only a court and /or Judge warrant is enough to enter your premises. Do not lie or show false documents and do not sign any papers without speaking to a lawyer. You may also ask for an interpreter. Consider coming out and supporting members of affected communities this evening at the Catholic Charities Diocese of Charlotte's immigration forum, “For You Were Once a Stranger in the Land of Egypt – Immigration: Why We Care and What We Can Do.” The forum is being held this afternoon, April the 15th at 5:00 pm at St. Eugene Catholic Church (in Asheville). Mayor Esther Manheimer and Sheriff Van Duncan are invited to attend. Come voice your concern about ICE ripping families apart in our community. We appreciate your support and for more information please follow the CIMA (Compañeros Inmigrantes de las Montañas en Acción) and Nuestro Centro Facebook pages online. If you have any information which would contribute to helping keep affected communities safer in the Asheville Area, the hotline to call is 1-888-839-2839. Please make sure that the information you have is both verified and up to date if you call this number! You can also check out CIMA or Nuestro Centro NOT on fedbook. Update for Herman Bell's Parole   The hearing began around 3pm. The Judge relayed at the outset that he did not plan to issue a decision today, and that the temporary restraining order would remain and not be lifted until a decision was rendered. The Judge also asked that the hearing be focused primarily on standing. The question is whether a member of the victim's family (Diane Piagentini) has “standing” in court and in this case. Without standing, the case cannot go forward. Each side then had around 10 minutes to give their arguments on that issue, which they did. Again, no decision was rendered, and there wasn't much indication of how the Judge would rule. The Judge did say that he understood the urgency of the case and that Herman‘s liberty was at issue, and that he would begin making a determination on Monday. June 11th is Every Day The folks who are organizing the worldwide day of action and solidarity with Marius Mason and all long term anarchist prisoners have released their announcement for the scope and prisoners (including ones in Germany, Chile, Greece, and the U.S.) alongside a message for this year. We're just going to excerpt the very end of the call-up here, but here's the end of it and you can find the whole thing at june11.noblogs.org June 11th is an idea, not just a day. June 11th is every day. And ideas are bulletproof. Let's breathe life into the rest of the year and renew the celebration of anarchist prisoners' lives by carrying on their struggles alongside them. In short: It's a call-out, so we're calling on you! June 11th is what you make of it. Follow your heart and fill the world with beautiful gestures. There is no action that is too small or too grand.   Playlist here.

As we go to press, hundreds of squatters and eco-rebels are battling against cops at La ZAD in France. We interview someone there, as well as a participant in The Syrian Revolution about the no-state-solution to the Syrian government's ongoing attacks on rebel areas. The treesits in West Virginia against the Mountain Valley Pipeline are expanding. Anarchist prisoner Sean Swain needs support. {April 11, 2018}   -------SHOW NOTES------   Table of Contents: Introduction {0:00} Headlines {1:30} Rebellion across France {5:07} Interview about Douma, Syria and the Syria Revolution {17:54} Repression Roundup {25:40} Next Week's News {33:53} Download 29:30 minutes long version J20 support resources: POSTER: The J20 Prosecution—Trumped up Charges J20 Legal Defense Fund Twitter Fed book An Open Letter to Former J20 Defendants, with useful “do”s and “don't”s  Teen Vogue: The J20 Arrests and Trials, Explained Tell the prosecutor's boss to drop the charges by calling (202) 252–7566 Enough is Enough has live updates in English from the resistance to the eviction of la ZAD. Check out the Anarchy in Action page about the Syrian Revolution for more anarchist perspectives on it. Please donate to help The Tower anarchist social center in Hamilton, Ontario recover from a fascist attack on their space. Other shows mentioned on this Hotwire: End of the Line, an ongoing podcast about the pipeline struggles in Virginia and the Mid-Atlantic. The Fucking News from Sub.Media The Final Straw: Charlotte Uprising: Repression and Resistance Go On Episode 50 of The Ex-Worker has an interview with about the Lucasville prison uprising and how it informs contemporary prison rebellion and organizing Get inspired to do something AWESOME for May Day by listening to the very first episode of The Ex-Worker, which is all about Haymarket. Anarchist texts mentioned in this Hotwire: We Don't Need Gun Control, We Need To Take Control June 11: The History of a Day of Anarchist Prisoner Solidarity The May Days: Snapshots from the History of May Day La ZAD: Another End of the World Is Possible The Southeast Trans and/or Women Action Camp, taking place April 26–29 in Western North Carolina, has had their donation page shut down twice, so if you have some bucks to spare you can donate at PayPal.me/setwac2018. Mutual Aid Disaster Relief tour April 11 at 6:30 PM at First Presbyterian Church 510 W Ottawa St Lansing, MI 48933: Giving Our Best, Ready For The Worst: Community Organizing as Disaster Preparedness April 13 at 6 PM at The Boiling Point 143 Burr Oak Street Kalamazoo, MI 49001: Protectors v. Profiteers: Communities in Resistance to Disaster Capitalism April 14 at 12 PM at The Boiling Point 143 Burr Oak Street Kalamazoo, MI 49001: Giving Our Best, Ready For The Worst: Community Organizing as Disaster Preparedness April 15 at 6 PM at Girls, Inc 1108 W 8th St Bloomington, IN 47404: Protectors v. Profiteers: Communities in Resistance to Disaster Capitalism April 16 at 3 PM at Girls, Inc 1108 W 8th St Bloomington, IN 47404: Giving Our Best, Ready For The Worst: Community Organizing as Disaster Preparedness April 17 at 6 PM at University of Wisconsin – Milwaukee 2200 E Kenwood Blvd Milwaukee, WI 53211: Protectors v. Profiteers: Communities in Resistance to Disaster Capitalism April 18 at 6 PM at University of Wisconsin – Milwaukee 2200 E Kenwood Blvd Milwaukee, WI 53211: Giving Our Best, Ready For The Worst: Community Organizing as Disaster Preparedness   Use this straightforward guide to writing prisoners from New York City Anarchist Black Cross to write birthday greetings to political prisoners Janet Holloway Africa and Walter Bond. Janet Holloway Africa #006308 SCI Cambridge Springs 451 Fullerton Avenue Cambridge Springs, Pennsylvania 16403 {Birthday: April 13} Walter Bond #37096–013 FCI Terre Haute - CMU Post Office Box 33 Terre Haute, Indiana 47808 {Birthday: April 16} Herman Bell still needs help to secure his release from prison: 1) CALL New York State Governor Cuomo's Office NOW: 518–474–8390 2) EMAIL New York State Governor Cuomo's Office 3) TWEET at Governor Cuomo: use the following sample tweet: “@NYGovCuomo: stand by the Parole Board's lawful & just decision to release Herman Bell. At 70 years old and after more than 40 years of incarceration, his release is overdue. #BringHermanHome.”  Use this script for phone calls and emails:  “Governor Cuomo, my name is __________and I am a resident of [New York State/other state/other country]. I support the Parole Board's decision to release Herman Bell and urge you and the Board to stand by the decision. I also support the recent appointment of new Parole Board Commissioners, and the direction of the new parole regulations, which base release decisions more on who a person is today than on the nature of their crime committed years ago. Returning Herman to his friends and family will help heal the many harms caused by crime and decades of incarceration. The Board's decision was just, merciful and lawful, and it will benefit our communities and New York State as a whole.”  Start gearing up for a summer of anarchy in Quebec! The anarchist film festival (May 17–20 in Montreal) The Montreal International Anarchist Theatre Festival (May 22–23 in Montreal) The Montreal Anarchist Bookfair (May 26–27 in Montreal) The North American Anarchist Studies Network Conference (June 1–3 in Montreal) Anti-G7 mobilization (June 7–9 in Quebec City)  

Reporter Jennifer Henderson explains why Nova Scotia Power and Emera are facing questions about conflicts of interest. Plus, we talk about Lucasville and Hammonds Plains, flags at crosswalks, and a former firefighter’s allegations of systemic gender discrimination.

We sat down with the 2017 Ronald C. Marshall Correction Officer of the Year, Officer Michael Frankel. Take a listen to learn about Officer Frankel's secret to success, the importance of smiling and what he has learned during his 27 years as the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility (SOCF) in Lucasville.

Interviews with Queen Tahiyrah and Franklin López This episode contains two segments: In the first, Bursts spoke with Queen Tahiyrah about the hunger strike being engaged by Imam Siddique Abdullah Hasan and Jason Robb, two death row inmates put there by their attempt to resolved the hostage taking involved in the 1993 Lucasville Prison Uprising.  During the uprising, Jason Robb and Hasan acted as negotiators for the prisoners as representatives of the Aryan Nation prison gang and Muslim prisoners, respectively, at the facility.  More on their case can be found at http://lucasvilleamnesty.org.  Check out Queen Tahiyrah's podcast, entitled SiGnOtHeTiMeS. We apologize that the beginning of Queen Tahiyrah's interview sounds crappy - that was a technical fail on our part - but it clears up after about 2 minutes. In the second segment, Bursts chatted with Franklin López about Submedia, the importance of anarchist media production, his upcoming anarchist hip hop podcast, and the new short documentary series they're about to start releasing entitled Trouble.  Trouble is available for public showings, so find yourself a venue in town, contact Frankie and company via, pass word of the event in town via flyers and word of mouth and antisocial media and make some friends where you're at! The first episode will focus on diversity of tactics at Stand Rock with a focus on the Red Warrior Camp.  More work by Frankie can be found at https://submedia.tv.  Oh, and there's an announcement of a podcasting network looming on the horizon.  More to come on that in future episodes. Announces Benefit Shows: Help our comrades arrested at J20! If you're in Asheville or the surrounding area, there is a benefit show TONIGHT (March 12) at the Odditorium at 1045 Haywood Rd in West Asheville. Proceeds will benefit our comrades who were arrested during the inauguration protests in DC earlier this year. Also, next Monday the 20th there will be a dance party to benefit J20 arrestees, come dance to mod, punk, and all the classics new and old with DJ Murphy Murph! This will be at the Lazy Diamond at 98-A N Lexington Ave in downtown Asheville. Rebel! Rebuild! Rewild! call for submissions The Rebel! Rebuild! Rewild! Collective has put out a call for submissions of texts about strategic lessons that can be learned from the resistance at Standing Rock. As one phase of the resistance has ended and another has begun, the idea is to compile experiences and analyses and reflect on the lessons learned from this game-changing moment in movement history. This project is mostly for the benefit of those who were not present at Standing Rock but who might participate in something similar in the future. The plan is to publish a compilation of thoughtful strategic analyses, both online and in print. However, seeing as it might not be possible to publish everything that people submit, the plan is to put an unedited version of everything that folks submit onto a wordpress site sometime in the future. The call is to write about anything you'd like to, but some leading questions are: Which actions were most effective? Which actions were least effective? Do you have any insights on dynamics between indigenous and non-indigenous water protectors? What was unifying? What was divisive? What can we learn from the tactics of DAPL, the police, and the state? What can we learn from the legal battle? What message would you like to pass on to future water protectors? Please submit writing to rebelrebuildrewild@riseup.net. Submissions can be signed with your legal name, an alias, or be  anonymous. Please include whatever information about yourself that you consider relevant. Art by Julie Maas (borrowed from http://www.nightslantern.ca/) Playlist

Greg Curry This week Bursts speaks with Greg Curry, a prisoner serving time for alleged participation in the Lucasville Prison uprising of 1993 where prisoners took over the Ohio prison, leading to the death of 10 inmates and one guard.  For the hour, they speak about incarceration in the U.S., intersections of race and class, the prison strikes, capitalism and resistance. More on Greg's case can be found at https://gregcurry.wordpress.com/ Prison Strike, Week 2 Here is another roundup of week two of of the National Prison Strike. This information was pulled from Mask Magazine, It's Going Down, Support Prisoner Resistance, and the Incarcerated Worker's Organizing Committee. September 12th     Hunger strike begins at Lucasville and Ohio State Penitentiary, called by the Free Ohio Movement.     South Carolina prisoners release video of insects in their food.     Columbia, SC: Confirmed strike at Broad River Correctional Institution:     Florida: More prisoner uprising broke out on Monday night. According to the Miami Herald:     Florida's state prisons have resumed “normal” operations despite a disturbance Monday night at Columbia Correctional, the fifth inmate uprising in less than a week, officials said. About 40 inmates engaged in civil disobedience by refusing officers' orders and taking control of at least one dorm Monday evening. Columbia — one of the state's most violent prisons — remained on lockdown Tuesday.     Since Thursday, inmates have caused trouble at four other prisons, all in the state's Panhandle, including Gulf Annex Correctional, Mayo Correctional and Jackson Correctional. The most serious melee was at Holmes Correctional, where 400 inmates destroyed several dorms on Thursday.     Inmates involved in any incident have been moved to other prisons. September 13th     Chelsea Manning ends hunger strike that she began on September 9th. The army has agreed to grant her demands of gender affirming surgery. September 14th     Support Prisoner Resistance reports prison lockdowns in Arizona. Perryville, Yuma, Tuscon, Douglas, and Phoenix. It is unclear whether these are related to the strike, more information is forthcoming. September 16th     Merced, CA: Supporters report another block joins hunger strike. You can hear full coverage of this situation on the most recent IGD Cast here. September 17th     Holman Prison, AL: Free Alabama Movement issues press release calling for an end to the humanitarian crisis at the prison. They state through social media that many guards are not reproting to work and that much of the prison remains unguarded. This is from a press release which came out yesterday:     A serious humanitarian crisis is developing at Holman prison as correctional officers continue to walk off of the job amid concerns about safety and apathy from Warden Terry Raybon and the office of ADOC Commissioner Jefferson S Dunn, as violence, including deadly stabbings and assaults continue to mount.     Several officers expressed dismay and fear after learning that two of their fellow officers, Officer Brian Ezell and another officer, reported to Warden Raybon that they had knives drawn on them and their lives threatened, and that neither Warden Raybon, nor Commissioners Jeff Dunn and Grantt Culliver would take any action to ensure their safety. Both of these officers then quit.     Several other officers have also quit in the past three weeks after witnessing a stabbing of a fellow officer in the temple and who had remained hospitalized with life threatening injuries until he was pronounced dead earlier today. This after a former warden, Carter Davenport, was stabbed in March amidst back to back riots and other violence at Holman.     Now, after seeing Warden Raybon release approximately 20 people from segregation on September 13, 2016, most of whom were all in segregation for violent incidents (only to see several stabbing take place, including one critically injured and another losing an eye), a total of eight more officers have e ither quit or turned in their two week notices. Officers are expressing concern that the Commissioners of the ADOC are intentionally exacerbating violence at the expense of human life in efforts to push forward their plan to extort the public for 1.5 billion to build new prisons in next years Legislative Session.     Officers have began to express support for the Non-Violent stance of FREE ALABAMA MOVEMENT and their efforts to expose corruption, violence and other issues plaguing Holman and other Alabama prisons, and have went so far as to make repeated requests to Warden Raybon for the release of F.A.M. co-founder and organizer Kinetik Justice from solitary confinement, because officers now feel that he is being wrongfully detained and because he has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to conduct peaceful demonstrations at Holman prison to bring attention to issues within the ADOC and Holman prison.     We are asking that everyone call Commissioner Dunn and Warden Raybon and demand that they post daily reports of the staffing levels and incidents of violence taking place at Holman as a matter of public safety.     Warden Terry Raybon     Holman Correctional Facility     251-368-8173     Commissioner Jefferson Dunn     Commissioner Grantt Culliver     334-353-3883 (switchboard operator) We close with this update from inside prison walls in SC:     "Comrades up here having an inside meeting to critically analyze the Prison strike strong and weak positions. For many it didn't go far enough. Crucial points of resolution are not addressed. Certain regions didn't feel the love, so the fire didn't burn where they were at. Strong points, it was time. Unity was found on the outside. More people are talking about prison issues. Inside prisoners found unity in certain units or prisons. We too are talking more. These are just samples of what we need to start discussions around, particularly the prisoners. Because this will tell us how to add this moment in the movement, to the collective of prison rebellions to strengthen it, and toss the weak points.     Big UPs to the Prisoners thats always refused to comply. I'm one. For over a decade I've been punish with little privileges do to my insistent stance not to work. So the prisons close us off from the working prisoners. Its good to see others joining. But its not enough. They'll let the few of us lay. So to be truly effective, time to plan and prepare for the next phase." Call for solidarity from IWOC Meanwhile, the IWOC is making every effort to track the strike in the hopes of continuing this resistance and locating forms of solidarity and calls for assistance. If you would like to help in this effort, there is a comprehensive phone zaps list that includes a rundown of phone numbers, some context for the specific struggles, and suggested scripts to read if and when you get the pigs on the line. You can see this Google Doc here. Also, if you hear anything, or are able to call prisons and ask about lockdown status, please let IWOC know via email at: iwoc@riseup.net If you make calls for a given state and hear no lockdowns, please report that too. Stay tuned all around for updates on the strike. Love and solidarity!       Legal fund donations to AVL and ATL And finally (tho not lastly) just to plug, and to yet again express our love for our jailed NC and GA comrades, people here in Asheville and in Atlanta still need donations for legal funds. All of these folks were arrested  while expressing solidarity with the Prison Strike, and the folks from Atlanta are facing some insane felony charges. All of them are out of jail now, but are beginning the long, slow battle with the criminal injustice system and they need your support. To donate to comrades in Asheville, and to see a pretty sweet write up of the events of the day in our town, you can visit: https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/legal-support-for-wnc-sept-9-solidarity-activists And to express solidarity to Atlanta, you can visit: https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/bail-out-prison-strike-supporters Some anarchist audios not to be missed I'd like to share a few notes on recent anarchist audio and video media in english that I've been appreciating in hopes of enticing you, dear audience, into checking them out.         Crimethinc's The Exworker has begun rebroadcasting. This most recent episodes of the podcast focuses on the September 9th strike with a conversation with Azzurra of the ABC in Houston, TX, and Ben Turk of IWOC based in Wisconsin.  Episode 49 also includes a review of Captive Nation: Black Organizing In The Civil Rights Era, an interview with an anarchist in the UK about Brexit and other tidbits.  #50 also includes a segment mourning the death of Jordan MacTaggart, an American anarchist who died on the front lines in Rojava recently, a segment celebrating the death of former police chief and all-around king-bastard John Timoney and a rebroadcast of a Crna Luknja interview with members of DAF about Turkey after the attempted Coup.  These ExWorkers are well worth a listen and available at http://crimethinc.com/podcast/             Also, submedia's most recent episode on strikes, the DAPL pipeline and more entitled Burn Down The Plantation features a great interview with Melvin Ray of the Free Alabama Movement.  This sits alongside a second video installment explaining anarchist fundamentals, this time featuring the concept of Mutual Aid, short videos on continued struggles in France against the #LoiTravail, direct action against fascists in Athens.  These and more can be found at https://submedia.tv/stimulator/             It's Going Down is now producing the IDGcast which can be found at http://itsgoingdown.org/ and include thus far timely interviews on the uprising in Milawukee, words from the Red Warrior Camp at Standing Rock against the Dakota Access pipeline, the state of the alt-right or new white nationalist movements in North America and a discussion on communes and struggle with Morgan and El Errante. The most recent episode features an interview with a woman on hunger strike in Merced, California,  in solidarity with hunger striking prisoners against the deplorable situation in this poor and rural county's jails. The jails have witnessed abuses, deaths and injuries among those imprisoned in adult and juvenile detention at the hands of sadistic CO's. Find the IDGcast at http://itsgoingdown.org/podcast         Resonance Audio Distro, or RAD, is a source for radical and anarchist audio of zines, books and essays and, among other things, produced an awesome and lengthy interview with Sylvie Kashdan and Robby Barnes to give context to two plays by these rapscallions that Resonance put online.  Robbie and Sylvie are longtime anarchists living in the Seattle area who have been involved in The 5th Estate magazine for decades and have tons of stories and experiences to share.  Check out Resonance at https://resonanceaudiodistro.org/         Season two of The Brilliant Podcast has begun and is apparently headed towards a new format.  The most recent episode features a conversation with Isaac Cronin, curator of the Cruel Hospice imprint at Little Black Cart, talks about his experiences of Situationism, pro and post-Situ ideas and play in the U.S. since the 1960's.  Check this and more out at http://thebrilliant.org/             Finally, hip hop artist Sole is continuing to put out interesting discussions on his podcast SOLEcast.  Most recently, Sole talked to Franco "Bifo" Berardi on Capitalism, Mass Killings, Suicide & Alienation.  Episodes can be found at http://www.soleone.org/solecast More suggested media to come in the near future! Playlist: http://www.ashevillefm.org/node/17566

Prison officials recently placed Siddique Abdullah Hasan, a death row prisoner held at Ohio's supermax, in segregation. Siddique was framed as a leader of the Lucasville prison uprising in 1993 and has been a vocal supporter of the September 9th national prisoner work stoppage. His segregation should really come as no surprise as prison (mis)managers have long waged a brutal war on truth and on the captives who tell it. What is disturbing and highly instructive is that Siddique's segregation didn't originate with the prison warden, but with the FBI. Yeah. The FBI. This further proves something I suspected in 2012 when prison officials segregated me and tortured me for having an “ideology.” While I was being tortured at a state prison, the FBI was on site. In fact, the FBI assisted by providing the Ohio prison system with training manuals on how to break me. Know where the training manuals were developed? The CIA. The torture tactics that the FBI shared with state prison officials came straight out of the CIA's Counterintelligence and Interrogation Manual. So, let's connect some dots… The FBI and CIA have essentially merged, so all of the dirty, nasty terror that the U.S. used to unleash exclusively overseas can now be employed right here at home. And the meta-data -collecting snoops reading your emails who perfected torture and state terror have state prison wardens on speed dial, giving unthinkable orders to those who run the largest, most sprawling human bondage system in all of human history. This is no conspiracy theory, folks. Conspiracies are kept secret. The architects of this terror state are developing this ultimate control system right in front of your eyes. These enemies of human freedom are not saying, “We don't know what you're talking about,”—they're saying, “We have Apache attack helicopters, so what are you going to do about it?” They want you to know what they're doing. They want you paralyzed with fear. That makes you predictable. So, look. I've been invited to say a few words about why you should support the national prison work stoppage on September 9th. In doing that, I'm not going to rattle off facts and figures about how the criminal justice and corrections systems target racial minorities or how these systems serve to tip the scales in favor of social and political conservatism by neutralizing those who benefit most from radical change. I'm not going to explain how the indiscriminate police shootings of black people is just an outgrowth of the larger program. I'm going to assume that you've been awake and that you've already got a grasp of the painfully obvious. We can also forgo moral arguments about lofty principles like equality and fairness and human compassion. Others can make those arguments much better than I can. Instead, I'm going to try to explain why your own naked self-interests are served in supporting this September 9th work stoppage. Let's talk about you. As Edward Snowden revealed, somewhere in a dark government office, a national security creep is thumbing through your emails, listening to your phone calls, scrutinizing your search histories—he's sniffing through your intellectual underwear. Do you know where this mass-surveillance plan was perfected? My calls have been monitored and recorded since 1991. Hacks in the prison mail room have been reading my mail for 25 years. So, what you now experience is just a more broadly applied, slightly more complicated program of surveillance developed right here in the prison mail room. Our common enemy knows it would be too expensive to take the entire population to prison. So, instead, they brought the prison to you. They've done studies on how much rule-deviant conduct the ycan deter just through the threat of surveillance—the knowledge that the government is watching and listening. Look around. How many cameras are pointed at you? Yeah. That was exported from prison too. Again, studies on how much rebellion can be minimized… Riot response, shields and helmets and kittling—all that came from the prison yard to the college commons. Rubber bullets, pepper spray cannons, Tasers—all used first on prisoners and then perfected on you. Want to speak out against injustice? Want to peacefully demonstrate your concerns in a public setting? Yeah. Take this work. So, thanks to the ever-evolving strategies rolled out from my world into yours, you now live your butchered half-lives with a shotgun in your face. You have the right to shut up…or else. But you don't have the right to a living wage. In the current election cycle, the corporate party candidates bemoan the disappearance of manufacturing and union-scale jobs to other countries. But they don't talk about the jobs that moved down the street and over the barbed wire. Ohio prisoners performed slave labor for the Ford Motor Company and Honda for pennies a day while folks you know are sleeping in their cars. This slavery allows prison officials to run their plantations on the cheap, to your detriment. And none of this speaks to the likelihood of desperate and destroyed human debris getting dumped from this debilitating program back into your neighborhood, with no opportunities and absolutely no tools for developing healthy relationships. We're not dealing with a system here that fails to rehabilitate 90% of the time, creating future crime and victimization. We're dealing with a system that works as designed, manufacturing crime and suffering, creating an industry of crime and crime response, a system that sees you and your well-being as collateral damage. You're not safer because prison (mis)managers lock up prisoners; you're less safe because prison (mis)managers destroy and mangle human beings and then set them loose. On top of all that, the militarized police force is a projection of a looming threat that you too can be scooped up and destroyed for decades directly, and that looming threat serves to maintain the current status quo. It's a no-brainer that the prison complex is an integral component to the fascist police state keeping you un-free. So, that being the case, a challenge to this control complex is pregnant with the potential for radically altering the government's capacity to maintain all of the consequences just listed. It all goes together. The planned work stoppage on September 9th doesn't seek better food or pizza parties for coddled criminals; it seeks to change the world you and I both live in. It seeks to empower the powerless to at least imagine the future we deserve and to inspire the belief that we can do something about it. Look. You can struggle against the terror state when it is still disorganized and casualties will be few, or you can wait. You can wait and struggle against the terror state when its powers are established and casualties will be greater, or you can wait again…You can wait and struggle against the terror state when victory will be very hard and casualties will be great…or you can continue to wait. You can wait and struggle against the terror state when victory will be dubious and the struggle feels hopeless, or yet again you can wait… You can wait and struggle against the terror state when there is no hope of victory and you only fight because it is better to fight and to die that to live as a slave. The choice is yours. Some choose to fight now. I make this statement in full knowledge that having said what I've said, I might never be heard from again…unless we take this motherfucker down. So, look. I'm not going to tell you that if you opt out of this pivotal stand against our common enemy and it fails that our children or our grandchildren will look back at this crucial moment and pity us for our cowardice and our inaction, that they will lament the intolerable existence under fascism to which we doomed them. No. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that if we don't act now and if we don't succeed, our children and grandchildren will live so un-free, they will sit in regimented rows in their classroom, wearing uniforms and arm-bands, and the teacher will swat the blackboard with a horse-crop to draw their attention to the message written there: “IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY.” And it will be as if this moment never existed. Only one thing stands between us and that dystopian future: YOU. This is Anarchist Prisoner Sean Swain from Warren Correctional Institution at Lebanon, Ohio. If you're listening, you are the resistance.

http://talkingppgradio.podomatic.com/ Hello All, lets see if I can stay away for another Orson Welles type of radio show...LoL One thing for you today.....Know your limits. I talk to Terry Lutke about knowing your limits, and Terry introduces the W's of flying. http://www.falcon4strokeppg.com/falcon_owners.htm  11th Annual David Purdin Fly-In WhenAug 31 – Sep 3, 2012 Where9959 U.S. highway 23, Lucasville, Ohio 45648 (map) DescriptionThis an ultra light field that is manicured with a 2,500 foot wide runway. Beautiful flying area. Hotels and many places to eat within a few miles. Dry camping at the field and fuel very close to the field. There will also be a food vendor on location also. 38.870053 -82.994542 For more info: call Dave Purdin 937 725 4480 or email dave_ppger@yaho​o.com Indy Air Hogs 6th Annual Fly-In  http://www.indyairhogs.com link to my Facepainting web page www.louisvillefancyfaces.com Thank you, Wil  

The girls give mixed reviews of the glass of chardonnay they are sharing on this episode. Emily recounts the Lucasville prison riot of 1993 and Sarah covers the Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints and Warren Jeff- but more importantly the Short Creek Dream Center and Brielle Decker.