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S. Shakthidharan's last play Counting and Cracking was a massive hit, an epic tale of one Sri Lankan Tamil family and their involvement in world-change events. Now he returns with The Wrong Gods, a story about a mother and daughter in India whose lives are about to be ripped apart by industrial agriculture. Should economic growth come at the cost of a sustainable and ancient way of life? Shakthi is joined by actor Radhika Mudaliyar. In the 40 years since their history-making perfect score that earned them a gold medal at the 1984 Winter Olympic Games, figure skaters Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean have toured the globe presenting ice dancing spectaculars. Now, the pair plan to hang up their skates for good, following a farewell tour they are calling Torvill & Dean: Our Last Dance. First broadcast November 2024.

Rotten football, jumping, some anaesthetists in a lift, Torvill and Dean's farewell, and dual massages. Join the Iron Filings Society: https://www.patreon.com/topflighttimemachine Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As they prepare to take their final bow this summer, bringing an end to a truly legendary career, we're revisiting our unforgettable conversation with two icons of the ice: Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean! From redefining the sport with their breathtaking Boléro to inspiring generations of skaters, their legacy is unmatched. And now, as they lace up their skates for one last dance before a well-earned retirement, there's no better time to celebrate their incredible journey.So, sit back and enjoy this special trip down memory lane with two of the greatest to ever grace the ice.For all the latest news, click here to follow us on Instagram!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today's episode of "Conversations On Dance", we are joined by former Chief Dance Critic of the New York Times and performing arts historian Alastair Macaulay to discuss the legacy of composer Maurice Ravel around the corner from his 150th birthday. We talk about Ravel's major commissions for dance, how dance influenced his compositions outside of those meant for the concert dance stage, and his continued impact on major choreographers of the 20th century and onwards, like Frederick Ashton and George Balanchine. The Torvill and Dean “Bolero” referenced: https://www.olympics.com/en/video/torvill-and-dean-s-legendary-bolero-performance-music-mondaysLINKS:Website: conversationsondancepod.comInstagram: @conversationsondanceMerch: https://bit.ly/cod-merchYouTube: https://bit.ly/youtube-CODJoin our email list: https://bit.ly/COD-email Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Perth Live listener Karina told Oly Peterson she received an email stating Torvill and Dean's Perth show was cancelled. The famous British ice dancing duo will not longer be stopping in Perth on their final tour. Pop Culture Expert Demelza Leonard spoke to Oly Peterson about the news. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 1984, Jayne Torvill and Chris Dean became Olympic gold medallists and were shot to international fame with their now iconic 'Boléro' routine. Forty years on, and after almost fifty years as a skating duo, the pair are saying a long goodbye to the rink with their Our Last Dance tour.  Jess sat down with Jayne and Chris to hear about their journey from hire skates in Nottingham to the Olympic rink, the importance of eye contact, what not to say at the dole office, and the secret to their 50-year partnership. Know someone who'd enjoy this episode?  Why not share it with them by tapping the 3 dots above ⬆︎ and passing it on LINKS: Buy tickets to Torvill & Dean: Our Last Dance Fill out our survey for the chance to win a $100 voucher here   If you loved this chat with Jayne and Chris, we think you'll love Jess's conversation with Tony Hadley here If you love what we do, why not follow the show, and rate and review on Apple or Spotify CREDITS:Host: Jessica RoweGuests: Jayne Torvill & Chris DeanExecutive Producer: Nic McClureProducer: Amy KimballAudio Producer: Chris Marsh Digital Content Producer: Zoe Panaretos The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show acknowledges the Gadigal people, Traditional Custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders peoples here today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We are beside ourselves with excitement to have today's guests in the bathroom with us. Torvill and Dean, English figure skaters who revolutionised the sport of ice dancing in 1984 after winning Olympic gold join us to talk all things career, retirement and a life time of friendship. We were in awe at the incredible moments they have shared together as one of the longest and closest sports partnerships. LINKS: Follow Cam @camerondaddo on Instagram Follow Ali @alidaddo on Instagram Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial.  Follow Torvill & Dean @torvillanddealofficial Follow Jayne Torvill @jaynetorvill_official Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I chatted with Frankie Seaman the pro skater about her skating career and how she got to skate as pro dancer on the ITV show Dancing on Ice alongside the Olympic skating legends Torvill and Dean and her work with various charities!

In the 40 years since their history-making perfect score that earned them a gold medal at the 1984 Winter Olympic Games, figure skaters Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean have toured the globe presenting ice dancing spectaculars. Now, the pair plan to hang up their skates for good, following a farewell tour they are calling Torvill & Dean: Our Last Dance.This year, one of the greatest shows on earth has been the US presidential race. The theatrics employed to shift allegiances, manipulate audiences and inspire voters call into question the line between politics and performance. The influential social and cultural thinker Richard Sennett turns his mind to these and other topics in his book, The Performer: Art, Life, Politics.

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Snakes are taking over Sydney, Papenhuyzen the target of a Sydney giant, Anthony Minichiello joins us and we talk DIY grooming fails.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Legendary ice skating duo Torvil & Dean joined Michael McLaren in studio ahead of their Australian shows for the last time.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

British ice skating legends Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean join Jonesy & Amanda ahead of their Australian tour. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Anders Torvill Bjorvand er en travel bedriftsleder, styreleder for flere selskap og forfatter til syv bøker. Til daglig jobber han som leder for IT-selskapet Kommunion som leverer kundehåndteringssystemer til frivillige organisasjoner. I denne episoden får vi høre om hvor viktig det er for ham å integrere kristen tro i sitt arbeid, slik at arbeidsplassen kan bli et sted for aktiv tilbedelse av Kristus. Bjorvand deltok nylig på Lausanne 4-kongressen, der han var en del av det omfattende «workplace»-sporet med diskusjoner om kristen tro på arbeidsplassen. Dessuten var han også med i samarbeidsgruppa som drøftet teologiske og etiske problemstillinger rundt kunstig intelligens (AI) og transhumanisme. I løpet av samtalen berøres også det faktum at Anders Torvill Bjorvand er aktiv søndagsskolelærer og brenner for å forkynne evangeliet, særlig for barn, noe som også reflekteres i flere av bøkene hans. Intervjuer er Kjetil Fyllingen som er nettkonsulent for Damaris Norge og daglig leder for omgud.net. Lytt gjerne også til de andre episodene i denne serien: Lausanne 50 år (del 1): En samtale om Lausannebevegelsens historie, betydning og aktualitet Lausanne 50 år (del 2): En samtale om en aktuell og unik rapport fra Lausanne om global misjon Lausanne 50 år (del 3): En samtale om forventninger til Lausanne 4-kongressen i Seoul i september 2024 Lausanne 50 år (del 4): En samtale med Rolf Kjøde om en ny rapport om Europa, kristen tro og misjon Lausanne 50 år (del 5): En samtale med Ole-Magnus Olafsrud om Lausanne, unge ledere og medvandring Lausanne 50 år (del 6): En samtale med Steinar Opheim om misjon, teltmakere og å være kristen på jobben Lausanne 50 år (del 7): Lausannekongressen – en katalysator for å nå de unådde Lausanne 50 år (del 8): En samtale med Øivind Augland om Lausanne, menighetsplanting, M4 og Awana Lausanne 50 år (del 9): En samtale med Dagen-duoen Tore Hjalmar Sævik og Tarjei Gilje om det å være på Lausanne 4-kongressen Lausanne 50 år (del 10): En samtale med Ingebjørg Nandrup om Lausannes teologiske arbeidsgruppe og livet som misjonær Lausanne 50 år (del 11): En samtale med Jarle Haugland om kristen tro, medieengasjement og den globale kirke Lausanne 50 år (del 12): En samtale med Marita Haugland om psykologi, kristen tro og globalt kristent fellesskap Lausanne 50 år (del 13): En samtale med Gjermund Øystese om å være leder for fototeamet under Lausannekongressen Denne podkastserien om Lausanne 50 år er produsert i samarbeid med Norme.  

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Iconic ice dancing duo Torvill and Dean sit down with Jake and Damian to reflect on their illustrious career spanning over 50 years.Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean are a lengendary former British ice skating duo and 1984 Winter Olympics Champions. In this episode, they reflect on their early days, recalling the pivotal moment when they realised their potential as a duo. They highlight how their shared passion for skating and unwavering commitment to improvement bound them together for over five decades.Delving into their creative process, Torvill and Dean recount the discovery of ‘Bolero', the routine that would later become iconic for their 1984 Olympic success. They emphasise the dedication and discipline required for success, the challenges they faced, and their commitment to pushing the boundaries of their sport.Looking back on their illustrious careers, the pair reveal their decision to retire after 50 years on the ice. With wisdom gleaned from a lifetime of skating, they embrace the idea of leaving the stage on their own terms, ready to embark on new adventures.This conversation explores the insights behind Torvill and Dean's dynamic partnership, and how they navigated tensions and dealt with failure to become two of Great Britain's most celebrated Olympians. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Torvill and Dean, a bike accident, an Uber incident, Rockwell, and a Madonna pic hunt. (Rec: 1/8/23) Join the Iron Filings Society: https://www.patreon.com/topflighttimemachine Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Jethro talks with James Anderson, who has been on the show three previous times: The Learner Agency Model with James Anderson Transformative Principal 351Learnership with James Anderson Transformative Principal 455 Learnership: The Skill of Learning with James Anderson Transformative Principal 570 In this episode, we talk about teaching cultures and learning cultures, take a sidewalk into some deep thoughts about moral development, and finish with a bang. Do you have a sense of power and that you get to choose what you do in your life?Agency makes you the master of your circumstances, not the victim. Voice and Choice lip servicePower to choose vs. permission to choose. Agency is an outcome, not a pedagogy. There are some things we don't have agency - the student needs to change and be capable over something that they weren't capable of it before. Learning culture vs. teaching culture. Default ways we go about learning - teaching and performing. Learning is not the product of teaching, but the product of the activity of learners - John HoltTeacher doing all the heavy lifting in the classroom. Kids were coming to school to watch her work. Kids had been learning, but hadn't yet become learners. Diagnostic tool to determine the level of learnership. Where kids are at in their own learning. Clear snapshot of where learners are at. Hidden Potential by Adam GrantTwo sides of the same coin. Character development or learnership are two sides of the same coin. Where habits of mind fit in the bigger picture. Teaching content, thinking models, within the context of good moral dimensions. How developing disposition is vital and important. Teachers are too busy “saving kids” from the challenges they are facing. Helping kids become creatures of discomfort. Help kids be safe while climbing, not taking away the opportunity to climb. Torvill and Dean - figure skating. So much more fun. If the results aren't there, the teachers get the blame. It's not up to me, it's up to the learners. We've each got a role to play. Eduardo Briceño Performance ParadoxLearnship matrix shows them what it looks like. Expertise has a rich language to describe their area of expertise. Rich language of teaching, but impoverished language of learning. Teachers are expert teachers, but they are not expert learners. People become adequate and then they stop growing. Stop growing, start performing. Teachers may not have needed to be effective learners for a long time. Creatures of discomfort. About James Anderson James Anderson is a prominent Australian-based international speaker, author, and educator deeply committed to enhancing our capacity for effective learning. Central to his philosophy is the "Mindset Continuum," an extension of Carol Dweck's groundbreaking work on Growth Mindsets, providing practical tools to cultivate a profound understanding of ourselves as learners. His notable concept of Learnership, raising the status of learning from an act to an art, offers a powerful framework to comprehend and enhance our engagement in the learning process, ultimately helping schools to create the paradigm shift that is needed.With a rich background as a teacher and school leader, James has spent the past two decades collaborating with schools to create more thoughtful learning environments. He challenges educators to critically reflect on their own Mindsets and how these beliefs are subtly communicated to students, offering tangible strategies beyond clichés to instigate genuine shifts in learners' mindsets.James places immense value on the relationships he establishes with the schools and teachers he engages with, providing sustained support and follow-through often absent in professional development. Demonstrating the impact of his approach, a three-year partnership with Asquith Girls High School in Sydney led to students displaying increased persistence, embracing challenges, and teachers setting higher expectations. This comprehensive program was acknowledged as a finalist in the 2022 Australian Education Awards.As a Certified Speaking Professional and Certified Virtual Presenter, James frequently presents at global conferences, in both physical and virtual formats. His work has gained recognition in prominent publications like The Age and Sydney Morning Herald, as well as in popular educational and parenting podcasts such as Dr. Justin Coulson's Happy Families, Jethro Jones' Transformative Principal, and Renee Jain's Confident Child Summit.James's diverse body of work includes previous publications like Succeeding with Habits of Mind, The Agile Learner, and The Learning Landscape, alongside various e-books and teaching resources. His latest book, Learnership, raising the status of learning from an act to an art in your school, is set to become the book that every teacher will be talking about. Additionally, he offers online courses like the Growth Mindset Master Class and Learnership - the skill of Learning, which support educators globally. He holds a consulting role with Art Costa and Bena Kallick's Institute for Habits of Mind and is affiliated with the Habits of Mind Profile Tool. His extensive contributions have significantly impacted the field of education, propelling the art of learning and shaping more adept and empowered learners. We're thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL's comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers' timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments

It's 40 years since Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean won gold at the Winter Olympics in Sarajevo. Around 24 million people turned on their TVs to watch the Nottingham duo make history on the ice rink. It was the moment that changed Jayne and Chris' lives forever. Since then, they have won multiple World Championships, sold out international tours and become the faces of ITV's hit show Dancing on Ice. Tickets for their last ever UK tour, Torvill & Dean: Our Last Dance, are available at www.torvillanddean.com

The Reverend Richard Coles is back on tour with his ‘Borderline National Trinket' show and talks to us from his home in Sussex where he's “the only person in the village who hasn't won a BAFTA”. This looks back at his life – “a CV like the work of a fantasist” - and what he's learnt from 50 years of watching various types of stage entertainment and playing to audiences ranging from the Wollaston Over-‘60s Methodist Ladies Fellowship to a bunch of delinquent Spanish pop fans with catapults. And he talks fondly of the Communards and how ‘80s pop was a Golden Age. Among the highlights … … Morecambe & Wise at the Kettering Granada with Arthur Tolcher on the mouth organ. … finding your “pulpit voice”. … Sir Robert Helpmann's great gag about referees. … why time is a healer. … the “marble denim and mullets” of Legs & Co's interactive dance to the Communards on Top Of The Pops.   … on the literary circuit sandwiched between John Lydon and Marti Pellow – “dreams do come true”. … if he's ever met a shy vicar. … the stagecraft of Danny Baker, Adam Kay and Grayson Perry. … standing on a chair to conduct the RPO, aged 8 and the time he wrote a Magnificat For Choir And Snare Drum in A Minor. … seeing Bauhaus, John Otway and the 4-Be-2s. … sitting between Lenny Henry and Torvill & Dean at a Kylie show. … his teenage punk band Zerox playing Clash covers. … and why there are never any forks in a Green Room. Get ‘Borderline National Trinket' tickets here, last date March 11 at London's Shaftesbury Theatre …https://www.seetickets.com/tour/reverend-richard-colesSubscribe to Word In Your Ear on Patreon for early - and ad-free - access to all of our content: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Reverend Richard Coles is back on tour with his ‘Borderline National Trinket' show and talks to us from his home in Sussex where he's “the only person in the village who hasn't won a BAFTA”. This looks back at his life – “a CV like the work of a fantasist” - and what he's learnt from 50 years of watching various types of stage entertainment and playing to audiences ranging from the Wollaston Over-‘60s Methodist Ladies Fellowship to a bunch of delinquent Spanish pop fans with catapults. And he talks fondly of the Communards and how ‘80s pop was a Golden Age. Among the highlights … … Morecambe & Wise at the Kettering Granada with Arthur Tolcher on the mouth organ. … finding your “pulpit voice”. … Sir Robert Helpmann's great gag about referees. … why time is a healer. … the “marble denim and mullets” of Legs & Co's interactive dance to the Communards on Top Of The Pops.   … on the literary circuit sandwiched between John Lydon and Marti Pellow – “dreams do come true”. … if he's ever met a shy vicar. … the stagecraft of Danny Baker, Adam Kay and Grayson Perry. … standing on a chair to conduct the RPO, aged 8 and the time he wrote a Magnificat For Choir And Snare Drum in A Minor. … seeing Bauhaus, John Otway and the 4-Be-2s. … sitting between Lenny Henry and Torvill & Dean at a Kylie show. … his teenage punk band Zerox playing Clash covers. … and why there are never any forks in a Green Room. Get ‘Borderline National Trinket' tickets here, last date March 11 at London's Shaftesbury Theatre …https://www.seetickets.com/tour/reverend-richard-colesSubscribe to Word In Your Ear on Patreon for early - and ad-free - access to all of our content: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Reverend Richard Coles is back on tour with his ‘Borderline National Trinket' show and talks to us from his home in Sussex where he's “the only person in the village who hasn't won a BAFTA”. This looks back at his life – “a CV like the work of a fantasist” - and what he's learnt from 50 years of watching various types of stage entertainment and playing to audiences ranging from the Wollaston Over-‘60s Methodist Ladies Fellowship to a bunch of delinquent Spanish pop fans with catapults. And he talks fondly of the Communards and how ‘80s pop was a Golden Age. Among the highlights … … Morecambe & Wise at the Kettering Granada with Arthur Tolcher on the mouth organ. … finding your “pulpit voice”. … Sir Robert Helpmann's great gag about referees. … why time is a healer. … the “marble denim and mullets” of Legs & Co's interactive dance to the Communards on Top Of The Pops.   … on the literary circuit sandwiched between John Lydon and Marti Pellow – “dreams do come true”. … if he's ever met a shy vicar. … the stagecraft of Danny Baker, Adam Kay and Grayson Perry. … standing on a chair to conduct the RPO, aged 8 and the time he wrote a Magnificat For Choir And Snare Drum in A Minor. … seeing Bauhaus, John Otway and the 4-Be-2s. … sitting between Lenny Henry and Torvill & Dean at a Kylie show. … his teenage punk band Zerox playing Clash covers. … and why there are never any forks in a Green Room. Get ‘Borderline National Trinket' tickets here, last date March 11 at London's Shaftesbury Theatre …https://www.seetickets.com/tour/reverend-richard-colesSubscribe to Word In Your Ear on Patreon for early - and ad-free - access to all of our content: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Time to get our skates on and pirouette down into the WWQT cellar, our weekly mini series where we bring up some of our old favourites from the back catalogue for a deserved second listen. With Dancing on Ice launching any day now, we thought it was a perfect time to revisit our conversation with two of the biggest names in ice skating history: Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean. We spoke to them at the start of the Pandemic about the realities of our new normal, as well as a storied career that saw them cement themselves as two of the most significant sports stars this country has ever produced. ***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!***Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The clocks have gone back, the nights are drawing in and the winter Olympic sport is back! In this episode of the podcast we catch up with former Police officer and now successful CEO of British Ice Skating Michelle Draper - and that was one of the first thing she changed - it's name from NISA! We talk about the rising British stars on ice ahead of the 2026 Milano Cortino Games - and how long into the episode do we go before we mention you know who - Torvill & Dean? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're back with another visit to the era that defined the careers of so many WWQT guests from over the years - get the hairspray out!Radio legend Pat Sharp tells Kate about the challenges of moving networks and some of the hilarious faux pas his contemporaries committed. Elsewhere, skating legends Torvill and Dean recap their world record-breaking performance at the 1984 Winter Olympics, and TV icons Richard and Judy tell their (mildly differing!) stories of how they met.You can listen to these episodes in full here: Pat Sharp, Torvill & Dean, and Richard & Judy***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, we toast some of the dynamic duos we've had on the show over the last four years.We celebrate some iconic - and hilarious - performances from two pairs of icons in Torvill and Dean & Michael Ball and Alfie Boe. Elsewhere, James Acaster and Ed Gamble recount how they became mates - it's predictably bizarre!You can listen to these episodes in full here: Torvill & Dean, James Acaster & Ed Gamble, and Michael Ball & Alfie Boe***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tom Service explores Ravel's Bolero – a classical chart-topper, concert-hall-filler and the soundtrack to Torvill and Dean's Olympic skating glory. Written in 1928, Ravel described it as a 'piece without music in it' and agreed with the lady at the Paris premiere who shouted 'rubbish! rubbish!' over the applause. But he also admitted that with Bolero he had gambled and won, making one of the most experimental and popular pieces of orchestral music ever composed.

Welcome to Pint-Sized Distant Pod. We've been back through our archive of episodes and we've selected our favourite stories, anecdotes and funny bits. If you're new to the pod, then feel free to use these as a jump off point to find your way around our earlier episodes. This clip is taken from "Episode 71: A Million Bees" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1984 - Apple's first Macintosh computer is launched (priced at $2,500). Michael Jackson is rushed to hospital with second degree burns from fireworks while filming a Pepsi commercial. The first untethered spacewalk is made by Astronauts. The mockumentary, This is Spinal Tap, is released. Torvill and Dean win the first perfect-score gold medal for ice skating. Comedian Tommy Cooper dies live on TV, suffering a massive heart attack, which is mistaken as part of his act. Princess Diana gives birth to Harry. Happy Days is cancelled after 11 seasons. Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends is first broadcast, narrated by Ringo Starr. 36 pop musicians from across Britain and Ireland form Band Aid and record Do They Know It's Christmas to raise money for Ethiopian famine victims. ... and Norwegian synth-pop band, A-ha, knock up their first version of TAKE ON ME, though it will take two more versions, another year, and a new video clip before it becomes a hit. What does it have to say? What interpretations have fallen between its translation from Norwegian to English? Is Falsetto a language of its own? Are Norwegians predominantly dark, sad, or wet? To explore this, we discuss: Job interviews; herring sortation and safety; stalking or romance (again); prayers on your death-bed; Norwegian courtship rituals, alien shape-shifters; narcissism; regulation unitards; sperm donation; issues of consent; the Kama Sutra; kids' obsession with Minecraft; insect life cycles; Frankenstein; Yoda (again); motorcycle racing as a metaphor for sex; Altered States; George Costanza; Invasion of the Body Snatchers; The Thing; the Norwegian for "touch me" or "toe me"; enchanted flutes; Lego cakes; Weezer; Real Big Fish; Toto's Africa (again); Nelson Mandela; Car Alarms and bamboo socks. Take on our regular segments: Misheard Lyrics, Internet Theories, Listener Comments, and more. Would you like to appear (well, vocally) on the show? Do you have a pop song or ear-worm from the SMOOTH FM genre that's infested your mind and needs to be investigated? Visit this page https://speakpipe.com/lyrics to record us your own voicemail hot-take on your specific smooth song of suckiness. You could be on a future episode! (you can always email sound files or text your thoughts to poidadavis@gmail.com if that's easier). Cheers! Find us on Twitter, Facebook and all your favourite podcasting platforms. Sound clips are included for educational reference, criticism, satire and parody in fair use. Clips remain the property of the respective rights holder and no endorsement is implied. All information and opinion is performed and expressed in-character and does not reflect reality or genuine commentary on any persons (living or dead), bands or other organisations, or their works, and is not recommended listening for anyone, anywhere.

In this episode Bobby & Steffan are joined by actor Will Tudor, known for his roles in Game of Thrones, Humans, Shadowhunters, Torvill & Dean, the Red Tent and more. His incredibly eloquent, thoughtful approach to life and everything in it brings deep meaning to his experience of fitness and wellness.

TODAY ON THE SHOW: the team are having some serious Wordle troubles, Luttsy opened up Producer Bree's birthday present (but is that so bad?) We do something we don't want to but feel we have to...talk about MAFS, Susie's memories of Torvill & Dean, Mitch breaks down all the Academy Award nominations (and who was snubbed) Bru-Haha: are Tasmanian Tigers coming back? Susie's disgusting smoothie, Smarter Than Suse, is someone leaving Susie's nest, free parking, Susie's Mystery Coco Pops and are Tom Holland & Zendaya taking the next step? Follow Ash, Luttsy & Susie O'Neill! Facebook: www.facebook.com/ashluttsyandsusieoneill Twitter: www.twitter.com/ashluttsysusie Instagram: www.instagram.com/ashluttsyandsusieoneill See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tim and Shane have plenty to say about the Justin Langer saga as it seems everyone is chiming in, The Aussie Women's team are looking good in preperation for the World Cup, the ice is slippery at the Winter Olympics, NBA biffo, and much much more See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome to the first episode of the new series of The Ice Skating Podcast! 2022 is here and all eyes are turning towards China and the Beijing 2022 Olympic Winter Games. We are looking forward to the Games with Lilah Fear and Lewis Gibson, Great Britain's great new ice dance hope. They are highly excited about heading to their first Olympic Games – can they capture their country's imagination in the way Torvill and Dean once did? Australia's Kailani Craine is heading to her second Games, after a fantastic experience at  PyeongChang 2018. The brilliant Aussie tells us all about how much she loves the Olympic experience, and her routines for the competition. We are also reporting back from the 2022 European Speed Skating Championships in Heerenveen, Netherlands – an event with both prestigious medals and Olympic spots up for grabs. We speak to  Dutch legend Ireen Wust and Norway's Hallgeir Engebraten about their performances – and hopes for next month. The Ice Skating Podcast is the official pod of The International Skating Union, presented by Luke Norman and Nick Moore. 

December 2021Figure Skating podcast. Courtney Jones is a World, European, and British ice dancing champion, and the only skater to win World Championships in Ice Dance with different partners. He's been an ice skating judge, an Olympic Team Leader, and creator of two  compulsory dances. And he designed the iconic Bolero costumes worn by Torvill and Dean for the 1984 Sarajevo Olympics. 1 hour, 19 minutes.

Anders Torvill Bjorvand er teknolog, entreprenør og investor. Han er kreativ, skarp, opptatt av kvalitet og har startet flere større og mindre prosjekt. Nå er han daglig leder i Kommunion, et selskap som han har startet, som leverer skybaserte webapplikasjoner. Anders har mange gode perspektiver, både på arbeid, utvikling av selskap, investeringer og samfunnsbygging. I denne episoden gir han oss også innsikt i hva Bibelen sier om arbeid og han har flere praktiske råd til hvordan dette kan anvendes i praksis.

Jayne Torvill OBE: British Ice Dance Legend One Half of Torvill & Dean Olympic Gold & Bronze Medalist 4-Time World Champion 4-Time European Champion 7-Time British Champion Loving Wife & Mother Secret Tennis Fan Head Judge on ITV's ‘Dancing on Ice' Fabulously Fearless Find Jayne here: Instagram - @jaynetorvill_official & @torvillanddeanofficial Twitter - @torvillanddean Website - http://www.torvillanddean.com/ Music by Dyalla Swain- http://soundcloud.com/dyallas

Welcome to a very special edition of The Ice Skating Podcast – brought to you from the ISU Skating Awards.Figure Skating commentator Mark Hanretty joins us for this episode to discuss the winners of 2021's Lifetime Achievement Awards.There are also exclusive interviews with the recipients – Torvill and Dean, Tamara Moskvina and Alexei Mishin.The Ice Skating Podcast is co-hosted by Nick Moore and Luke Norman.

A great example episode of why Neil and I should not be left alone. We discuss everything from Torvill & Dean, being back traveling around the country for lectures, whether Richard and Andy have been kidnapped and some positive economic news. 

In this episode Veronika’s first and second choice is:Adam Buxton – and Guests In an episode recorded in July 2020  Adam talks with British sporting legends Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean.https://www.adam-buxton.co.uk/podcasts/7-bfk9m-4l8kp-blcga-jwabs-blbb8-b9mjx-fj3gr-j4lyp-9jlhe-a4bhm-c67yy-szhgm-m8pcd-l376z-zjb32-wh9dr-za87b-c8l3j-byyhb-segba-hlsc6-5m648-aef2d-2n3wg-tpcha-fsb4a-stlxm-7hb5z-ekrddAnd in an episode from December 2020 Adam talks with British writer, and Nobel prize winner, Kazuo Ishiguro about sci-fi, artificial intelligence, the nature of emotions and whether an AI Rosie (that's Adam's doggie) would be as good as the real thing.https://www.adam-buxton.co.uk/podcasts/7-bfk9m-4l8kp-blcga-jwabs-blbb8-b9mjx-fj3gr-j4lyp-9jlhe-a4bhm-c67yy-szhgm-m8pcd-l376z-zjb32-wh9dr-za87b-c8l3j-byyhb-segba-hlsc6-5m648-aef2d-2n3wg-tpcha-fsb4a-stlxm-7hb5z-ekrdd-6hdmt-e2zpx Vic’s first choice is: Slo Mo with Dr Bruce Greyson Slo Mo is a series of conversations hosted by international bestselling author of "Solve for Happy" and former Chief Business Officer of Google, Mo Gawdat. Hear Mo is chatting to Dr Bruce Greyson about Near-death experiences and what they teach us about life and beyond.https://slomo.buzzsprout.com/843595/8067106-dr-bruce-greyson-what-near-death-experiences-reveal-about-life-and-beyondVic's second choice is:This American Life - What lies beneath This American Life is a weekly public radio program and podcast. Each week a theme is chosen and  different stories are woven together with that theme in mind. This episode is about the young and old coming face to face with the Coronavirus vaccine.https://www.thisamericanlife.org/731/what-lies-beneath As always, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING! Please don't forget to LIKE us (or even LOVE us if you dare) and don't forget to follow us on Twitter: @podtrawlers Podtrawlers is created and hosted by Victoria Crofton-Wadham and Veronika Hurbis.Artwork and editing are by Veronika Hurbis. Special thanks to Paul Pod for perfecting our logo. And special thanks to #AnnaMeredith and this week to #Ravel - bits of their brilliant tracks feature in our podcast episode. #podtrawlers  #bestpodcasts  #bestpodcasts2021  #JayneTorvill #ChristopherDean#adambuxton #thisamericanlife #slomo #drbrucegreyson #mogawdat #KazuoIshiguro #neardeathexperience

Adam talks with British sporting legends Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean.This episode was recorded remotely on July 1st, 2020.Thanks to Séamus Murphy-Mitchell for production support and to Anneka Myson for additional editing. Podcast artwork by Helen GreenRELATED LINKSMARIE CURIETORVILL AND DEAN WEBSITETORVILL AND DEAN - BOLERO - 1984 WINNING ROUTINE (YOUTUBE)TORVILL AND DEAN - THE RETURN (BBC DOCUMENTARY) - 1994 (YOUTUBE)THE PERFECT DAY - TORVILL AND DEAN (BBC DOCUMENTARY) - 2014 (YOUTUBE)PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES - TORVILL AND DEAN - 2013 (YOUTUBE) See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this bonus episode, Alison is joined by James Hogg, author of 'More Than Just a Good Life' (the authorised biography of Richard Briers). James is an extremely successful biographer and ghost writer who in addition to authoring this tome about Dicky, has also written for and about Kenny Everett, Torvill & Dean, Gary Numan and Brian Blessed (among others). To buy James' excellent book on Richard Briers,click through to https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BNVLT9F or visit a book retailer that pays its taxes. #saddo #goodlife #richardbriers Check out the corresponding show notes page at https://saddo.club ( https://saddo.club/s01e26-5-james-hogg ) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sitcom-archive-deep-dive-overdrive/donations

You might know Susan Earl from her roles in Red Dwarf, So Awkward, Reggie Perrin or as Christopher Dean's mum in the Christmas special of Torvill and Dean. She is a comedian, actress, writer, single mother and my friend. In this conversation we talk about parenting, feminism, writing, misogyny and holidays and how, through comedy and laughter, we can find connection and comfort through even the hardest of times. One of Susan's comic songs that I so love is called 'Hot Middle Aged Loving', her it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E88k88_6QQ and you can find out more about her work here: https://www.hd-management.co.uk/susanearl. We talked about the work of Laura Bates which you can find out more about through these links: https://everydaysexism.com https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/sep/02/men-who-hate-women-by-laura-bates-review-fierce-and-eye-opening To find out more about my writing, coaching and training: https://www.julieleoni.com/

Day 9 of the This Is Our Everest Advent calendar sees Edward and Ian visit a curious and extremely topical festive extravaganza from 1984, The Torvill and Dean Christmas Special. The programme wasn't the light entertainment variety hour either of your heroes were expecting, but their initial relief quickly gives way to astonished disgruntlement once they realise there had been a key omission. Along the way, they discuss the Winter Olympics, pop a stalk in every church in two counties and casually invent the world's next great pornography franchise. If you'd like to see what Jayne and Chris did next, you can watch it here. Tomorrow it's back to 1985 and the sitcom In Sickness & In Health. As ever, enter at your own risk. There’s a bunch of different ways in which you can subscribe to the 200% podcast. You can do so through Spotify, which you can find right here, whilst the podcast RSS feed is here and you can subscribe through Itunes here. And finally, a humble request. These podcasts take a lot of effort to write, record and release, and we would be extremely grateful for your financial support, in whatever way you can manage. We have our Redbubble shop, for the sartorially minded amongst you, and subscribe through joining us on Patreon. We even now have a Kofi button on the site, so do feel free to send us whatever you’re able to.[kofi] See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Edward and Ian have both been to their fair share of honking parties, but Day 8 of the This Is Our Everest Advent calendar took them to Keith Harris' Christmas Party in 1983 and now all bets are off. Our heroes ponder whether or not Keith was a white supremacist, the exact wording of Orville's tenancy agreement and the potential incarceration of Stu Francis in a sweet-smelling sex dungeon. Ian reveals another telling part of this podcast's origin story and Edward rails against the duck. Can anyone stop either him or Cuddles before it's too late? Find out now. You can watch Keith's party here.Tomorrow morning, ice skating! The 1984 Torvill & Dean Christmas Special. There’s a bunch of different ways in which you can subscribe to the 200% podcast. You can do so through Spotify, which you can find right here, whilst the podcast RSS feed is here and you can subscribe through Itunes here. And finally, a humble request. These podcasts take a lot of effort to write, record and release, and we would be extremely grateful for your financial support, in whatever way you can manage. We have our Redbubble shop, for the sartorially minded amongst you, and subscribe through joining us on Patreon. We even now have a Kofi button on the site, so do feel free to send us whatever you’re able to. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Today I am speaking with Fiona Oakes. Fiona has been vegan since the age of 6 years old.  She is a World Record-breaking Marathon runner currently holding 4 Guinness World Records including being the fastest woman to run a Marathon on every Continent and the North Pole in both days and time elapsed.  She is an Elite road Marathoner having top 20 places in 2 of the World's Major Marathons - London and Berlin and the Great North Run - along with many Marathon wins and course records around the world.  She is also an accomplished ultra runner having completed Marathon des Sables 3 times winning stages of some of the most grueling multi-stage ultra events in the world - all this despite a disability which Medical Professionals advised would render her incapable of running at all due to multiple orthopedic surgeries in her teenage years.  She is co-founder of the Vegan Runners - now a global resource for all plant-based athletes and 'go-to' destination for anyone interested in combining plant-based living with running events.  She is an Honorary Patron of the Vegan Society, Patron of Freedom for Animals.  Fiona is the Founder of her own animal sanctuary Towerhill Stables, where she currently cares for over 600 rescued animals.  This series features conversations I conducted with individuals who have dedicated their work and lives to Vegan research, businesses, art, and society. This podcast series is hosted by Patricia Kathleen and Wilde Agency Media.TRANSCRIPTION*Please note, this is an automated transcription please excuse any typos or errors[00:00:00] In this episode, I had the rare opportunity to speak with founder of Tower Hill Stables, Animal Rescue and Sanctuary and co-founder of the Vegan runners Fiona Oakes. Key points addressed were Fiona's title of four Guinness World Records in distance running, including being the fastest woman to run a marathon on every continent and the North Pole, and how this endeavor was merely the vehicle to carry her true life's work of rescuing animals and expanding positive imagery about the Vegan lifestyle and philosophy. Stay tuned for my talk with Fiona.  [00:00:44] My name is Patricia Kathleen, and this series features interviews and conversations I conduct with experts from food and fashion to tech and agriculture, from medicine and science to health and humanitarian arenas. The dialog captured here is part of our ongoing effort to host transparent and honest rhetoric. For those of you who, like myself, find great value in hearing the expertize and opinions of individuals who have dedicated their work and lives to their ideals. If you're enjoying these podcasts, be sure to check out our subsequent series that dove deep into specific areas such as founders and entrepreneurs. Fasting and roundtable topics they can be found on our Web site. Patricia Kathleen dot COM, where you can also join our newsletter. You can also subscribe to all of our series on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean and YouTube. Thanks for listening. Now let's start the conversation.  [00:01:40] Hi, everyone, and welcome back. I'm your host, Patricia. And today I'm elated to be sitting down with Fiona Oakes.  [00:01:47] Fiona is the co-founder of the Vegan Runners and she is the founder of Tower Hill Stables. Animal Rescue and Sanctuary. You can find out more.  [00:02:02] Hi, Fiona. We're so excited to have you on today. Fantastic. We have a little bit of a time delay, but we're gonna get through that for everyone listening. I'll read a quick bio on it. Absolutely. For everyone listening, I'm going to read a quick bio on Fiona.  [00:02:19] But before that, I'm going to proffer you a quick roadmap for today's podcast. You can follow the trajectory in which our inquiries will be based. We will first look at unpacking Phiona's Vegan story and her life becoming a prolific marathon runner. We'll look at some of her childhood before we launch straight into her marathon running and ultra running career, distinct between our draw distinctions between marathons versus ultramarathons. The reasons why Fiona has been running them. And then we're going to look at some of the particulars within those communities being a Vegan athlete as they pertain to Phiona's story. We'll look at injuries. We'll look at running world records, breaking everything that she has done. And then we'll also unpack. We'll turn our efforts towards looking at a brief overview of the documentary. It was based on Fiona running for good. And then we'll start unpacking the work that she's doing at Tower Hill Stable, which is an impetus for a lot of her work. And we'll wrap everything up with goals and advice that Fiona may have for those of you who are looking to get involved or kind of follow her. A brief bio, as promised on Fiona. Fiona Oakes has been Vegan since the age of six years old. She is a world record breaking marathon runner, currently holding four Guinness World Records, including being the fastest woman to run a marathon on every continent and the North Pole in both days and time elapsed. She is an eat elite road marathon marathoner, having top 20 places in two of the world's major marathons, London and Berlin and the Great North run, along with many marathon winds and course records around the world. She is also an accomplished ultra runner, having completed the marathon, their seventh three time winning stages of some of the most grueling multi-stage ultra events in the world. All this despite a disability which medical professionals advised would render her incapable of running at all due to multiple orthopedic surgeries in her teenage years. She's a co-founder of the Vegan Runners, now a global resource for all plant based athletes and a go to destination for anyone interested in combining plant based living with running events. She is an ordinary pay honorary patron of the Vegan Society, Patron of Freedom for Animals. Fiona is the founder of her own animal sanctuary. Tower Hill Stables, where she currently cares for over 600 rescued animals. Again, you can find out more on w w w dot. Tower Hill Stables dot org. Fiona. Before I begin unpacking a little bit about your running story and your Vegan story within that, I'm hoping that you can draw us. The story about becoming Vegan at the age of six is in and of itself rare. And you had a very unique childhood. I'm wondering if you can.  [00:05:19] Yeah, I mean, I went to the Vegan when I was six years old. I didn't understand the word Viðga and I have to say I've never heard of it. I understand its principle behind it.  [00:05:30] If you love something, you don't harm it. I loved animals. I didn't want to hurt them. I went vegetarian when I was three years old. Simple equation. I don't want to eat the flesh of animals. And as the years went by, I asked my mom, you know what? Why do these other products come from? Where does the letter come from? Where the eggs come from? We never really have milk in the house. And I'm very lucky in that my mom was honest with me and she told me the truth. It was a big thing at the time. This is in the early 1970s. We were lucky in that my mom had a role model, intensive music teacher that taught my mom when she was a child. She was actually a Vegan lady that a new Donelle. What's in the founders of Egen Society in the UK? My mom was kept in touch with them because my mom was a musician. So she was able to articulate to my mom in adult terms what I was going through with trials. It wasn't an easy path for us. Not my parents. You know, parents and my family were vegetarian. Viðga, not even particular big animal Lafitte's. I have to say. And I was very lucky to have the support of my mom. When I went to the hospital and had my surgeries in my teenage years, it was wasn't very, very difficult. Times may in terms of a I was in in plaster, cast a lot on crutches for about three years on and off. But more than that. Veganism was aligned to an eating disorder. And my mom was accused multiple times of child abuse for allowing me to be taken, which was a very, very bad thing because my mom at the time was a nurse. And so obviously she was working in the hospital and it came out, you know, the daughter was following this, what they call a weird diet. And it was very, very difficult time. I got through that, but I missed most of my education. I then went to also study privately to get some sort of qualifications behind me. I was going to be secretary and I came to London to work and. But it was always in my heart. I wanted to be around animals and it was always a dream to start an animal sanctuary. I never thought that dream would ever become a reality. In fact, people write to me now and say, you know, how do we get an animal sanctuary? And I had to say, be creative. Grab every opportunity. Can. There's no kind of set formula. You know, a must be will see. You got a sanctuary. To me, it happened by accident. I was doing a lot rescued from a rented accommodation that was living in and working in London. One of the horses I got a from had an accident. He was taken to the vet. It was 13 weeks. And at that point we decided we can no longer continue with this model, which was basically giving all the people all our money to cast the animals in a way that we didn't find satisfactory. So while I was at the vet having surgery rates we set about.  [00:08:24] Try to trying to get and get trying to get a property with some land, which wasn't easy to live quite near to London. It was a major struggle. I still don't know how it happened. I mean, I always joke and say at the time, my mom was always a great support. She probably got more mortgages in some time, that building society at the time. She'd like borrowed money, my family money. I've got a great aunt who is 98 years old and she got her funeral money under her bed in a and that came out to I to try and get and probably try and get the animal safe. And twenty five years ago, we managed to get a small property, which is Talil Stables. We didn't set it up as a sanctuary or a business or anything like that. It was a place of sanctuary for the animals I'd already rescued and it started from there. But after a few years, probably a couple of three years, I realized. I know I can rescue animals, I can rescue 40 active, rescue 400 animals, but I can't stop the cause of why they're needing rescue, uncomfortably hitting symptoms. I need to do something positive to promote veganism, because if the world were more more vegan friendly or more people were Vegan a plant based, then less animals would go through the factory farming train and hopefully the balance would be tipped at some point and veganism would become the norm. But back in the early notice, it was a struggle. How do you do this?  [00:09:50] You know, there was no you know, for younger people, they forget they don't really know what time before social media, before you could just put something on Instagram or Snapchat or Facebook. It was hard. You have to use the mainstream media and press you probably to do that. You have to do something bad, something good, or something very sensationalistic. Well, the only thing that I could think of was to do something good. Always been quite sporty. I was supposed to be for my surgeries. It put an end to my running my network my whole career. When I was in Oxford, up in cycling, because that was continuous motion, like strengthening. So I knew that I was. But, you know, the only sport, especially women's sport, that was garnering any attention in the U.K. was marrison winning that for all the hashtags attached to it because Paula Radcliffe was selling and kind of it was being billed as the toughest thing in athletic event on the calendar. It was grueling if you could do a marista. And he was punishing April. All right. So mentally and physically. So I kind of thought to myself, wouldn't it be wonderful if I could just come PTM and hopefully complete a Morrisson to show definitively that being Vegan is not prohibitive in any way to this most kind of extreme endurance sport. So that's kind of how the marathon running started purely to promote veganism. I didn't do it for any other reason. I still don't run for any other reason than to do that.  [00:11:22] Yeah, I think that's one of the most. I've never heard of another distance runner that doesn't talk about this. This rush or this high or this other emotive.  [00:11:31] This other physical pay-out that running does. And it is using it as a soul for a force of marketing is really unique. I'm wondering, when you started off, you already had your sanctuary, correct? When you started marathon running, it was to get word and promote word out about veganism. Let's really quickly, I kind of want to get on to Tower Hill Stables because you don't run it a lot of sanctuaries, at least in the United States. I'm not sure about UK, but they have a business model behind them. They lead Torvill. Is it all donation based? How is it based?  [00:12:08] Well, actually, when we started it, it was all off funding. We put money into it. And I always said that I could never look anyone in the eye and take their money unless I could very well say I was 100 percent invested in my own sanctuary, financially, physically, mentally, spiritually. I'm giving everything. I've got 100 percent on the line if you want to help me. That's great. And we still put all our own money into it. I work part time as a firefighter. I would say merchant banking for many, many years. My parents live with us all that pensions go into it. And people support the sanctuary. You know, in the membership, you know, that they join and they give regular donations. They fundraise for us. But it's kind of it was it stopped. Everything I've done, it's been kind of starts from gut instinct and the heart with the head kind of adding little bits along the way. So it's not it's not a business model. There isn't a business plan behind anything I've done. When I started running, I didn't think, you know, by year one, I want to do this. By year three, I want a world record. I had to be creative and I've gone with the flow. It's kind of organic and it's grown with me. And yeah, the mogul behind Tower Hill is still it's a very much it's not a business. It's a play.  [00:13:27] It's a home forever home. So the animals. So we'll go I've got 600. I still deliver the day care. It's the way I can do it through continuity. I like to be very, very hands on here, even though I didn't do a lot of mileage with my running. And it's hung to them. It's not a business. It's not a it's not like a petting play store. It's very much geared around them. They I always said, you know, it's not kind of a fun place for me to be if I'm having fun.  [00:13:58] There's something wrong. They're the ones that supposed to be having fun. Ananda The supposed to be providing it for them with me, overseeing it, making sure they've got everything that they need, which is a big project in itself. I mean, 600 animals. I haven't got like six on tiny little hamsters. I've got like 150 pigs. I've got 110 horses. I've got like sixty six cows. I've got over a hundred sheep sheets. I've got a lot bigger animals. So just project managing everything that they need to be where and when they need it. It's a big ask, but it's something I do. It's just from the heart. I love it. I can't imagine not being here for the animals. And the running is always very secondary to running the sanctuary. And I think that's been a great move. Probably my greatest motivator with my running. It's been lack of time. If I don't go out and do it when I get a small window around the animals, I can't find tools. So I'm kind of never got much time to think about or running. I'm just flat out back back into the wellies and back outside doing the sanctuary. And that's what I wanted to portray in the film. I'm very much an amateur amateur running boxing way above my weight when I actually get to races. And I think obviously I've been Vegan for a very, very long time, nearly five decades. And one of my strengths. Some people ask me what my strengths are. My strengths probably is that I know very little, but I always want to learn more. So I don't put myself on a pedestal and think, you know, I am Vegan Svengali. I know everything I've done. I mean, I'm always learning more and more and more whether is sanctuary about my running or my own personal abilities and inhibitive. So when I, I always yeah, I do everything from the heart and go in saying I never really have much time to think about what I'm doing. In fact, when Keegan came and made the documentary and started to ask questions, I had to really delve inside myself for answers because I'd never really stopped to think why I'm doing this. It just feels right. The time grabby go on with it. That's that's how I thought to be, because, you know, veganism over the last few years, it's kind of exploded. But it's been a very, very long, hard struggle for me. And there's been no road levels in terms of what I want to achieve. So I've had to go and set the benchmarks for myself. But, yeah, so it's it's a constant, constant struggle. But it's a long day. I mean, people ask you, how can you see only perhaps three in the morning? I've told you know, it's it's it's three decades I've been doing that. It's the only way I can get done what I need to do in a day. So as I say, you have to be creative if you want to do something. And there's real desire, motive behind what you do. And I believe you can do it. And with my running, I'm always very keen to tell people. I know I have no talent. That is where my strength is. I know that I'm going to have to work very, very hard to achieve what I want. To do the motive is the better I can run, the better. I can do the job I'm out to do, which is promote veganism in a positive way. Obviously, the faster you can run, if you can win races, the top place in races, that's the incentive to get to the finish line quicker. For me, not a trophy or a medal or Keagan came and it's like, where are all your medals? Where all your trophies? I don't know, because when I get home, that's that's the running back door. I'm back out with the animals. I hope that the the the achievement so the results speak for themselves. But I'm not I'm not a big person to talk about what I've done, particularly because I always want to do more. And it's always a great leveler to see that, you know, 70 billion animals go through the animal agricultural industry every year. I've got six hundred rescues here, which is a tiny fraction of what I want to achieve. And, you know, whether people choose to go Vegan or not, we are pushing for that. We're pushing for a better world, for a fairer, more just Woelfel. But it's slow progress. So whatever the animals are suffering while other people are suffering, while ever the zone distribution of resources around the world, I figure that I haven't got an awful lot time or need to sit back and congratulate myself because my job isn't done yet.  [00:18:25] So I'm wondering, you use your body, as you know, in your endeavors, this activity, the sport, you know, you're using it as the ultimate marketing campaign.  [00:18:35] And and because of that, you know, you just said you didn't you had to go back inside and think as the documentary was being filmed. You hadn't had a lot of answers. You were the answer. You know, you were showing people that this this sport could be done by someone living a Vegan lifestyle. And you want to draw attention to Vegan issues and efforts. And I'm wondering when people did approach you along the way. First of all, when you ran your first race, how did you train for it? Did you have a coach? A lot of really intense distance runners have coaches that they're involved with and they come with. How did that all work?  [00:19:14] OK. When I started to think about marrison winning, I thought, I mean, there was no resource on the Internet. So I mean that, you know, it was early notice there was nothing you could not Google Google search, you know. So three hour marathon training program or anything like that. So I started by kind of finding a local short distance race, you know, like a half marathon, seeing if I could do that. And I did. And I won eight an OK. Well, marrison running. I was under the very, very silly misconception that a marathon with two 1/2 marathons back to back. How wrong could I be? No, I heard all these kind of spurious told that a marathon begins at 20 miles. No, no, no. It's like thirteen point one mile. That's halfway through Miles. No, not it's completely wrong. And Marathon really does begin at twenty miles up to that point. You just on cruise control, the last thing, the way you can suffer. So honestly, I learned by trial and error by winning a few local show distance races. I had attracted some attention regarding coaching, but the deal breaker was the veganism. Nobody wanted to coach Vegan isolate. Nobody wanted to waste that time with me. So as I explained, promoting veganism is the only reason I'm out there. So it's it's a deal breaker tonight to take the next level in tomorrow's ceremony was quite a hard decision for me because I realize that the training was going to be so much more specific and time consuming, basically, than for short distance races. You can block your way through a 10K and a half marathon. You can't do it through a marathon. I started off like with trial and error, lots of trials, loss. I was just thinking I could do lots of miles and I would get quicker by doing lots of math. You will get on by running lots of distance, but you won't get a whole lot faster until you do specific speed work. So I kind of looked at what all the people were doing and I formulated my own idea. I realize that you've probably got to do two or three speed sessions a week. That was difficult to me. I did look at joining a local running club, want to say locally quite some distance away. And that speed session was not going to see it because it was done on the track. And I can't when the benefits, that money is too bad. So I have to do my speed, work on a treadmill. I always have done and I always do on it. Some people are a bit sniffy about treadmill work, but that's how I have to do it. And the only thing I do say is on the positive side of treadmills, they don't lie to you. They run at the speed that, you know, they're running out. So, you know, you kind of get a good kind of judge away wrap. But I just formulated my own way and it was all going to be had to be hard pressed to me. So nine sessions a week, three speed sessions with recovery runs longer mid weight on the Hill sessions and a very long run on Sunday. I think the one thing about me that I'm very robust in terms is physically very strong. And I can take the training. And I think that's a testament to my plant based lifestyle. Over two decades, I still put out the results for Cubby. Hey, I was representing my country for Half-Marathon and 10K and Chip to do very well in my race in the South. And so I've got a wide, wide range of events I can do. And I've never had a running injury. I've had injuries which have impacted my running and indeed my knee. It does bother me when I run. When I started running on road marathons at about 20 miles, the continuous motion, the pounding of one stride length was very, very painful. But I realized quickly if I stopped running the pain stop.  [00:23:02] So I realized once it damaged myself, it was just if I could write to the mental barrier of pain, I did. It was Paula Radcliffe that I once listened to and she said, You do not want to go to the start line of any race, least of all a marathon, knowing that you are carrying an injury. I've never been to the start line of any race knowing that I'm not carrying one, but I don't focus on it. I put it behind me, a place on the elite staff. I'm not making excuses for money. I was told I wouldn't work properly. I do live when I run. I didn't realize how much I lived till I saw the film. But I know I'm I'm there on my own merits. I don't want to make excuses. And I started with the Daily Road races purely because it was some time effective for me to Big Morison's a year, autumn and and spring. You literally probably spend four months how training three weeks cycling and go and hit them hard. And it was always I could probably not do that every local race or county race that was on the calendar. But I just wanted something more than that. I wanted to be able to in one soundbite say. A polite place overall in the Amsterdam marrison drunk, a world class race, was also financially very, very struggling because obviously I've got 600 mouths to feed, so mine is better off than the last one I'm actually considering. So being invited to races was cost effective. It wasn't costing me anything to go. It was a strange, bizarre kind of juxtaposition. I mean, I'm literally miss amateur runner, you know, bumming around the house, looking for my trainers and my thoughts and whatever. And then you're on a flight to a race you picked up by a chauffeur driven car. You taken to the elite hotel and you find yourself in a technical meeting with Heilig Guy. So I think it's like, whoa, what's going on here? But it's really it was never planned. I never really thought about it too much. I've never had any problem motivating myself to run because the end goal is always that I want to be the best representative I can. So the animals and for veganism. And if one person sees what I'm doing and he's interested or wants more information or can be convinced that it can be done, then that's my job done. So, yeah, I use the running.  [00:25:27] I mean, I kind of watch how it's gonna be and it's gonna be time consuming to do what I'm doing. It's gonna be really, really hard to run a hundred miles a week, but it's free advertising for the animal sanctuary in terms of people say, you know, hey, what do you do? You know, I run an animal sanctuary. That's great. And also later, after a couple years, it was literally to promote veganism because I haven't actually thought about the potential of starting a dedicated Vegan running clip that came about in 2004 when I got my first elite star in a major marathon that was London. And the guy that I was running with live in. The only kind of running club that had any connection with the reason I was out there was the vegetarian cycling and athletics. And Vader actually said to me, you know, hey, you know, you do realize that you're going to be standing shoulder to shoulder with the best runners in the world. You're going to be going up forty five minutes ahead of the main field. You're going to be you a handful of women, and you're going to have the streets of London to yourself. And the crowds are going to say, well, I'm not. Let's start a vague and running plot. They need to see that word. And it was that simple connection. And, you know, people see you in the elite club just so they know you're a good runner. You don't have to tell people you're a good runner. They know you while you do that with the best. And if you're literally a billboard going through London on private roads with a camera on you, you know, the BBC or whatever, filming it with this big investor, what what could be better? A positive advertising. Can you have to the call if you're out there doing. So that's when we start to Vegan run us back in 2004. And people do ask me, you know, what is your proudest moment within running? And I have to say. I think our big surprise it's being that co-founder of Vegan run is because now I mean, when we started it, I was pretty much the only Vegan in the village in terms of running. Now we've got thousands of members worldwide going out and doing this job. So it's so much more effective than just one first, me doing it. And to be part of that at the beginning does make me, you know, enormously proud of my my fellow Vegan, my fellow Vegan athletes on the job that doing being ambassadors for what we all believe in.  [00:27:40] What do you think? On to that same vein. In that same light. What do you think the most major impact has been for this thing that came?  [00:27:48] Was it the shoe deal was at the drop of the documentary? Was it cofounding Vegan runners that you saw a significant shift, both sociological and financial, that you kind of contributed towards the Vegan effort? Was there any moment over the past decade and a half that you saw this? This thing that I did really shifted it? Was it when you were in the Guinness World Records? Was it obtaining that for the cause for the industry, all of that stuff?  [00:28:16] Yeah, I mean, actually, it's quite controversial in terms of the way veganism has actually moved over the last certainly decade, five years, perhaps Vegan run has grown steadily through membership. That started in 2004. But what I actually found along the way is that I got quite a lot of media interest for what I was doing, but the focus was never on the Vegan part of it. You know, so you might get, you know, the big national newspaper, The Daily Mail, you know, kind of helping you most inspirational woman of the year. So you run off, you buy 50 copies of the newspaper. You know, we do that in ten or eleven and you reading through and, you know, this amazing woman is run across desert and she's done all this to the animals. And you think it's not mentioned the fact that I'm Vegan. And even when I broke the world's records, I had a kind of a newspaper deal that when I came back, you know, I kind of said, look, I'm not spread. One will record. I've broken three, you know, it's story. And eventually they explained to me, look, we've made an error. It was coming up to Christmas. And there were two major supermarkets, Aldi and little, that were trying to break into the kind of luxury market, you know, like Tesco and Science and Waitrose in the U.K. And they were doing a lot of advertising, really, really pushing advertising at the time. And he said, you know, we can't, like, contradict what they're advertising of turkeys and exotic foods by promoting inside our newspaper veganism in such kind of, you know, work out that way because they pay all, they pay our wages, the advertisers pay our wages.  [00:29:54] And it's always been a real struggle to get people to talk about veganism. And I know hopefully is asked about. I was doing the London Marathon and I had the BBC sports correspondent came up to the sanctuary to film me before the race rights and actually challenged him with this. And he said it's basically open until about 2015, 2016. Veganism was aligned with terrorism because a lot of activism was illegal activism, and so they weren't going to promote it. So up until that point, it was really, really difficult and I didn't really know why. So I'm not doing anything. You know, I'm just going out there and hitting the road. How can you top 20 places with a real amateur runner? And I've got this disability, but I think after about 2016.  [00:30:44] Truthfully might be a bit controversial. Now I know she's the real big shift in the Vegan movement. It went to a little bit more plant based and I it's quite well recorded and documented that I was actually filmed for the game changes. So James Wilkes came out in 2013 and filmed wait for this idea. He'd had to make a film about veganism and went back to Hollywoods. And it was it went on hold. You couldn't get the fundraising then back in 2015. He got the fundraising from the Avatar Foundation. James Cameron put money in and he wrote to me and said, Hey, Fjellner, want to come back with Louis Savoy us and we want to film you Sanctuary because you are basically the foremost Viðga athlete that I want in this film. And they came out and they filmed over two or three days only running film with the animals still running up to Morrisson to solve little time. And they went way over that year. I detected a change at kind of a shift in terms of veganism. The diet was becoming more credible, but not the ethic behind it. It was shifted to more plant based. And I think that I was dropped from the film because it looked a bit of a ridiculous juxtaposition that you got athletes on, that you haven't been Vegan that long. And we're talking about performance spikes and benefits of veganism. And I was coming it from a completely different angle to saying I'm vegan because it's the right thing. It just right is wrong time animals. And it was kind of a bit too much of that sense for me. KEAGAN Labor unions. Good.  [00:32:27] That was kind of kind of.  [00:32:30] A pivotal point in, you know, a lot of people became aware of me rich role did the narrative for it. So that helped. And I'm quite low paying, you know, to say what I've done. I don't push myself. I'm not a celebrity. Instagram tried several. I don't particularly want any recognition for myself. Fiona, I only want recognition for the animals and justice. So I'm not somebody who wants to push themselves forward, particularly because I've got my feet on the ground. And I know that what I've done, although it seems enormous to a lot of people for my my own reasoning, I haven't done enough. And I want to do more. Also, I think that a lot of people kind of felt a bit threatened by me because a lot of people are talking a rhetoric, but they have to kind of walk the walk. I haven't got the credentials and I've got like eons of credential. There were many, many years. And I think that they failed in some way negates what they're doing, which is which is not at all, you know, not what I'm thinking. You know, I just want to encourage people to to be vague and not to I don't want to sell them anything. I don't want to. Is stopping me a little bit. You know, the game changes. It was hitting. It's an audience that they felt that they got to sell them something. But, you know, you're going to feel better. You're going to feel great. You're going to have this massive performance by and it's kind of a testament to human beings that they always want a return for. What they're doing was returned return to me. It's just knowing that what I'm doing and it's the right thing and it's not harming others.  [00:34:07] Yeah, my father used to always say, you don't do the right thing to get in to heaven. You do the right thing to do the right thing. It in itself is the reason. And I think that that's crucial.  [00:34:19] You're kind of hitting on a very interesting point that this series has unearthed and really looked at it, particularly from people across all different industries that we've been speaking with. And it's this conversation that's blown up over the past five years. And it's it's fueled by marketing and money and Hollywood, as you are now bringing up. I did notice that you weren't attached to game changers and wondered why, because you are such this, your history and your legacy. I understand the the rebuking of the personal fame and things like that, but it does need a body to be hosted on. And we've chose you've chosen that body as you and your running, you know. And so within that, you have kind of risen through the ranks as a name that gets tossed around a great deal about these prolific athletes that are Vegan and carrying the word about veganism through places like sports where people just thought it couldn't exist.  [00:35:10] And I'm curious where you personally, if someone who didn't know anything about any of this industry was talking with you tomorrow and said wouldn't plant based in being Vegan, what how would you quickly discern that for that?  [00:35:26] Well, plan based is about what you eat. Veganism is the reason behind what you eat, and it's everything in your life. It's the S8. I mean, for instance, could you be plump based and wear leather shoes, you know? Is it just about your food and you? Or is it about the animals and the wider picture and the environment and other human beings suffer because of your food choices? You know what I mean? Yes, me. Veganism is the food.  [00:35:58] The diet is it's just one tiny part of it. It's the it's the ethical sounds about justice for all that's most important. And people are a bit shocked when they you know, they learn about what what how, i.e., I eat like I've always eaten, which is very bright. Basically, I go to a lot of these athletes forums and they're all trying to sell protein powders. And they sat in the other I don't have any of those things. I don't endorse any of those things because it would be a lie to say that I do use them. I have a very, very basic lifestyle. I eat fresh vegetables, i.e. whole grains. I eat, you know, not siy beans, chickpeas. And I have to think very, very carefully about the cost of my food because I have got this massive burden of responsibility caring for the animals. And I would rather see than me, the myself, the and I only one meal a day as well, which people find extraordinary. But since May it suits my lifestyle and happy with that. I don't try to tell the people what to do and how to do it. It's their choices of how they live. That's me. And I'm not top of my list of priorities. When I don't think much about myself, I genuinely don't.  [00:37:20] I think I get the greatest fulfillment is helping others, and that's honestly the troops. It's not a natural reaction to me to want to walk Kammerer. I felt when I went to Hollywood thoughtful. The film premieres when it's good. Rich Well came up to me and congratulated me on the film and said, Oh my God, it's amazing and you're incredible and what you think to it. I said, No, no, I'm saying it. Yeah. And he kind of looks at you haven't seen the film. And I said no because like, who wants to watch itself on a screen, you know? I mean, I don't know. So it made me kind of dragging me down to the front of the auditorium to watch it. And I'm kind of hiding out. I've got to look decent. Yeah. I mean, the desert, you know, it's got all the gear on, you know, the scenery and everything. And the first thing I see is this little kind of crazy moto figure limping out the desert. I look like crazy, but I've got to go right big backpack on. And I say, oh my God, I really love what I run. And I know it looks good when I run into races and people come promoted to news that, hey, you feel right. I've seen your film. Yeah. You know, I was in it and there's like, you know, I thought it was you because I noticed you were limping when you were. Well, you really. Oh yeah. But, you know, I yeah. I mean them to me, the you know, the greatest achievement is that people have seen what I've done and say, you know, hey, I can do that. And I can just mean within the Vegan. So I mean within the disability as well. You know, a lady wrote to me last week coming on social media on Instagram, she said, I've had two surgeries on my patellar and I've now been told that I've got to have it removed and that I will not be able to run or continue with cross country that she did. I will wear a brace for the rest of my life and somebody directed it towards what really good said. I'm right. Thank you. I don't expect you right back. Is there any hope on I said, you know, that's exactly what I was told you got thirty odd years ago and I hope I can inspire you to you know, nothing is written, you know, nothing is written. You can you can write your own book if you choose to sell it. That's that's what I can hope I can inspire others to do. And, you know, if people do want to, you know, are doubtful about Vegan, it's a you know, and I remember once I went to a race now it was a big, big intercounty championship and it was a marathon on a train for it. And my mom would come with me and she was standing with them. The people were handing out the prizes. The lady my risk was there and the race organizers and they said, oh, who you want to forge that? I'm raising my daughter. And this is a really real tough cause. I don't think anybody's ever beaten three hours on this cause it's like ninety. And they said, you know what, you know what time she looking for. And my mom was desperate to say she's not looking for a time. She's looking to win because, you know, winning is what she wants to do for the animals. And I came out to say China was winning. I've broken three hours. And the lady, my rest, when she presented me with the prizes, she said, oh, my gosh.  [00:40:19] She said, I was talking to your mother. And, you know, you've been Vegan said ages, years and years and years. My daughter wants. Vegetarian and I was reluctant to allow it to. I was worried about a growing process, whether it be detrimental. But seeing you at your age thriving, that I've got no issues with it now. So I hope that that's the kind of role model I can offer in terms of the fight. You know, if you're interested, what you're going to be like in 10, 20, 30 is to be plump based or are you going to whatever then look at me because I'm still thriving. I was due to go back to my roots in salt. It's the fourth time I say representing my country on the road, you know, and I'm healthy. I mean, I don't take any medications. I don't take any supplements. I still try, you know, like today I did a three hour room with an eight kilogram backpack and KG White's on my hands. And I look after all the animals and I still am a firefighter.  [00:41:11] Amazing. I want to get into it for everyone listening who doesn't have a background really quickly so that they know what we're talking about. The marathon disserves is really quickly a quick description.  [00:41:22] I scrubbed from the Internet. It's a six day, 251 kilim kilometer ultra marathon, which is approximately the distance of six regular marathons. The longest single stage is ninety one kilometers long.  [00:41:34] This multiday race is held every year in southern Morocco, obviously not this year in the Sahara Desert. It has been regarded as the toughest foot race on Earth. And indeed, as a documentary cited, you're required to purchase funeral insurance prior to entering the race because people have died on it.  [00:41:54] I'm curious first. My first thought was because it didn't capture any footage among your colleagues and fellow runners. What kind of rhetoric do you have before races, particularly on one like this, where you were in a tent with, you know, several other runners? Does anyone ever talk to you about your diet?  [00:42:11] Does anyone ever get into, you know, veganism or how relations with other runners or did they kind of like, let you be?  [00:42:21] Yeah, no, I mean, the first time I did in 2012, veganism was enough, people weren't aware of the word Vegan is little what he wasn't. I remember you literally turn out and you find you take it into the desert a military vehicles and you find 10 very often in the dark. It's late night and you find a place to put your sleeping bag. And that's where you will be for the eight days that you that so you wake up and you kind of me. I probably don't even get to know him the night before. And so the first year with I, you know, some of my guys walking around say, oh, my God, you know, you think you've got about ten. We've got like an Irishman, a Scotsman, a Welshman, an Englishman and a Vegan woman. And it's kind of, you know, you have to kind of convince them that way. Is the bigger woman that was actually. Bethany, if you're running well, if you're strong, if could beat them, they have to kind of look and listen. That year, I had a really, really tough race. In the week before I broke two toes at the animal sanctuary I hosted on them. So I was challenged with either not going to in the cell or going out there with two fractured toes. I elected to go. I had a really, really tough time. It was appalling. By the time the race finished to run alongside, you could see the bones sticking out a little toe. It was it was brutal because, of course, your feet swell in the hay. You get sand in your shoes. It's a really, really tough challenge. But the guys were, you know, took it well because that was the strongest among them. So, you know, they've got to kind of respect you. In 2014, I was in the race and I was riding really, really high in the rankings and top place. But unfortunately, one I templates needed me more than I needed to place in the marathon assailable. He had leukemia and he was on chemotherapy. And by day two, he was wanting to tackle. And I said to him, look, Mike, you know, there are love. I know what this is like. In 2012, I was the first Vegan woman to complete this race. All eyes were on me. I hadn't made a big thing about the fact of fractured toes. It was a tough loss. I was carrying a huge backpack because there was no ethical Vegan like sleeping bags. For me, everything was very, very heavy. I said, I know what you're right. And there are a lot of people around the world looking at you to know that, you know, you've got leukemia. It's not defining what your limitations are. And, you know, tobacco is going to be a really, really bad thing. So if you can get through the next day, which was like 30 or 40 K whatever, it was a long stage you were frightened about. I was frightened about being out there in the Sahara Desert alone in that kind of heat going through the night chemotherapy. I said if no one else will stay with you and you still want to do it all. So we took my rights away and I'll be there at your side. And he came back I and student self into my arms, you know. Each state was taking me about four hours. Was taking him 11 or 12 hours. And he said, does your offer still stands tomorrow? Because I really want to try and do it. And so I mentored him round the long stage. It was very, very tough. He was in a real state. But for me, the running I think the definition of my running is it is compassion over competition, whether that compassion be towards non-human or human animals. It's that's the reason I'm out there. And so in 2017, the guys I shared with I was I didn't have any license as the film or what Keegan was going to show. I mean, a lot people don't realize I'd done the race two, two times before. You did interview someone that's templates. And I was very flattered that one of them did say if you asked them if you had to come back to this godforsaken place, what would you bring? And it was Tafawa, a guy from Kuwait, who actually said to me, except Keegan. I bring Jonah because she just, like, knows everything. Will help everyone. She's funny and I love being around her and I thought that was the very, very great compliment. But, yeah, I mean, you do. I mean, in a race like that, you live very, very close, close proximity with your teammates. You can make or break your race. You don't want to be trudging along saying, you know, I don't want to get back to that goodness awful ten. I'm sharing this, but I've never had that. I've had some really good guys. And even though the experience is particularly brutal, whoever you are in that race, however you're going. It's hard. It takes some very, very dark places. I don't know whether he's just the British or whatever, but we always laugh real. We always want to cue the award invasion and laugh about it, although it's so horrible. You probably don't know why you would be crying. You get through it. It's it's it's a real privilege and a learning curve to be out there. And I think the most appreciated you become when you come back into your civilian world is the resources you turn the tap on and Walter comes out. That's a miracle. You know, you don't think is the Evian or Paria or sparkling or fruit flavored water. And you can drink it because you're so used to being limited and challenge to food. I mean, you carry everything you've got for the whole week. You have to carry from day one on your back. So you pack weighs about eight kilos. It gets lighter as the week goes on because using your food, but you're getting weaker as the week goes on. So everything that's in that pack you appreciate. So I've seen people like trading a piece of toilet paper for a painkiller. You know, it's literally make grown men cry. But it's it's a great leveler. And I think that the main thing you realize is that, you know, at any point in that race, you can put your hand up and say, I've had you know, if I can't go now, I need to go back to the five star hotel. How much is that? Thank you. Some people can't do that. They're living in worse conditions and they've got no hope of ever having anything better. So when you do come home, you cannot allow people to go out that it's a bucket list. You have to Morrisson salt with which you go and take. What is a real living life experience? It can really fulfill you and change your life for the better and a hope that it's still not for me.  [00:48:13] Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like by proxy as you've helped to do it for other people.  [00:48:18] I'm wondering with cofounding Vegan runners in 2004, what the growth has been said in your bio.  [00:48:25] You know, it's become this resource not just for Vegan runners, but Vegan athletes of all kinds. Can you kind of speak to some of the work that you're doing with that? One to three to five years that you're doing with the Vegan runners.  [00:48:39] Well, obviously, to grow the club and obviously grow the club through a positive way for veganism, so obviously, especially now with the cockpit. If you've ever been told to get out there to get exercise and of course, I'm saying even now round where I live and I live in Raleigh, more people out running. So to grow the club and set a satellite is obviously as a club we don't meet into. We do meet for an AGM. But what does sit around all over the country? All over the world. So we've got little satellite groups in towns, which is, you know, going out, training together and growing kind of animal local level. It's been a kind of a national resource up until now. But we want to kind of, you know, start little coaching weekends. I mean, we have we we did one last year here at the sanctuary where we can kind of interconnect on social media. Give each other advice. Give people who are Vegan curious advice. You know, just literally, I suppose we want to get a wider group of a range of Rhona's. I mean, we've got everything from like, you know, Sun Brothers couch to five K open to elite runners, but it's really grow grow the potential of promoting veganism in a positive way through running. Just get the best out there. Make people familiar with it. I mean, it's amazing when you go to races, you know, all round the world and most people have seen a green and black vest now, which is like, wow, you know. So I think internationally we'd like to grow it now and get more Vegan rolls out in in different, different countries. That would be great. Not just the goat, you know, bridge going out and running. And if you can run the best Badgley satellite groups in different countries, because I think it's a really positive way and you've got a really receptive audience on running starts because everyone's out there because they want probably want to improve and constantly looking at new ideas, new diets.  [00:50:28] And we see now with Corona virus and the weight started. Animal agriculture is becoming under intense scrutiny. So people are looking for alternatives. But a great positive alternative is, hey, we're Vegan, we're running. We've been doing it for like nearly two decades. Come and join us. We want to be very welcoming of all people and encourage people. I think that's the main thing to encourage them in a positive way.  [00:50:56] Absolutely. And I think that the compassion coming out of, you know, one of the greatest tragedies in the past hundred years, I think, is to be met with compassion and knowledge.  [00:51:08] You know, a reinvestigation, every conversation with one's self questioning, not just the philosophy and the ethics behind the world and disease, but food sources and sustainability and agriculture. And what we're doing to the Earth and then by proxy to ourselves, you know, and re recognizing the entire cyclical nature of everything that exists on this planet. One cannot be impacted and not affect to the other. And I think that the pandemic, you know, kind of being a reminder of that and reopening investigation and analysis and the attachment to things like running and things like that are it's one of the few silver linings. If there were one to the tragedy, I'm curious, with you moving forward, where would you like to see the movement? There has been this attachment and I've gone on in other episodes, so I won't go on here. But, you know, the attachment that the plant based has been kind of poached and repackaged and used to mean that people are labeling things in the states as plant based when they have egg product in them, it no longer even means vegetarian. You know, it's it's this way of use to fortify everything with vitamins and minerals, milk and things like that are still done. And it was a big thing in the 80s to fortify everything with vitamins because they were stripped of them and they needed to be replaced. And so the same kind of trajectory is happening with plant based. But I'm curious, with the Vegan community as you see it, like gaining the traction that begins all over the world. I was speaking with begins in Australia when Kofod broke out. And there's been this resurgence of people, you know, kind of in all these different pockets really getting excited about it. And this interest level.  [00:52:52] Where do you see it heading? Do you see the conversation kind of expanding and having getting towards the inclusiveness of the humanity and the compassion angle for animal to play more? Or where do you see the future of the Vegan conversation heading?  [00:53:08] Well, I have hope with coronavirus. People might look at the source and not sort of, say, a Wetmore case, but look at all animal agriculture. And apparently, you know, I mean, because obviously, let's not forget, we've had outbreaks in the Western world with swine flu, with avian flu. This intensive farming industry, it seems to be a little bit overlooked in the UK. We seem to be searching for vaccines and killers and treatments for cholera, but actually not the cause behind it. And I'm not saying branding China any of the you know, we're all guilty. We're all guilty. And for me, what has concerned me a little bit is that. Veganism has been railroaded with this would come based on people misinterpreting what plump face is. And it's being turned into a very consumer based and commercial based entity take when actually veganism is anything but. That is a very ethical. It's how it's considering always how your choice is not just your food choices impact all this. So I would I mean, obviously, there's not there's not going to be one route that suits or so for me if people are Klamt based. That's great. But I think that one concern is that any are rubbish processed food. They think they can put product based on it and people are going to think it's healthy when it isn't. And it can be highly processed and just as bad for the consumer as animal based products. It's only for the animals that it's better. So that's kind of okay for me. But labeling all based as healthy is kind of misleading and I don't want it to backfire. And people then realize, well, actually, that's not the case. I'm eating all these Vegan processed burgers and I'm no healthier and I'm not losing any weight. So I would like it to be strictly a little bit back and say, you know, hey, let's think about the ethics behind this. Obviously not just the delicious food, but let's think about the ethics and why we're making these choices and why we're trying to change. You smuggle. Because for me, the old model of. Commercialism, consumerism, greed, selfishness, just completely raping and pillaging the planet. I've got to stop because we just haven't got a big enough planet. And maybe Mother Nature has been sending out these warning signs for quite a few years and we're ignoring them. And I get the horrible feeling that in the UK, certainly we're looking for. Others say a vaccine. Kobe, 19. So we can go back to the old model. We can't do that. We've got to reinvent from the foundations upwards. A new, more beautiful model for us. Old coexist. Yeah. I mean, I would certainly like veganism to be at the forefront of that ethical veganism in terms of, you know, unfair distribution of resources. You know, so having grown to feed humans, to fatten humans, basically to make them and it's controversial to say it, but one of the groups most susceptible to this, to copy 90 or have an inability to recover from it. Are people who are obese. So surely we should be looking at healthy lifestyle choices for all. And that doesn't seem to be that much focus on not certainly in the UK. It's about go. Well, let's let's find a cure. Let's let's find some way know, you know, fighting this virus. But what if Coffee 20 comes along with coffee. Twenty one comes along. What we're going to do better. So, you know, for me in animal agriculture. What is the most frightening things is the use of antibiotics. We use antibiotics routinely because animals are kept in such appalling conditions. But it's causing antibiotic resistance in humans. So if there are a few outbreaks of things, this antibiotic resistance, which would be cataclysmic to the whole human race. So we need to be addressing these issues rather than just focusing on getting nobody's heard and getting back to normal. We need to really use this as an opportunity if any good can come out of it, of creating a better world for all.  [00:57:23] Absolutely. I agree. And I'm hoping I'm optimistic. You know, I hold a candle out for humanity.  [00:57:31] I think we we have a chance to get it right. You know, we've been getting it wrong for a long time. I truly believe that if you give someone space and time to have a safe and healthy conversation with these issues, they come to the right decision. You know, it's it's affecting all of us. And yet providing for the next generation and their generation and their generation is something that we should all have in common that we want. You know, we want to provide a good life for ourselves, our animals, every creature on this earth, but also the children and their children and people coming after them, the animals that come after that. You know, this idea that you're kind of handing off something that's completely unsustainable and walking away and dying is is. I don't think that most people do that. I think that it's in human nature to be better. And I think it just takes space. And to have these conversations in a healthy and open environment where people can look at actionable.  [00:58:23] And we look back at issues. Yeah. I mean, we look at back at certain issues in history and we think, you know, in the 21st century, how on earth did that ever happen? How on earth did we as humans allow that to happen, perpetuate that happening? Certainly for myself. I don't want to be one of those people that look back home with disgust and vilified. I want, you know, some you know, we tried to make a difference. And I believe if we work together, we will peacefully. I'm not confrontational person. I think that's something with my form of activism. I my rolling out to see its activists and being active to the animals. I don't want to go and pick arguments individually on the street and show horrendous images. I want to show positive images because I actually think from positivity breeds positivity and negativity the same. It breeds anger and aggression. And, you know, obviously we know there are horrendous things happening around the world. But let's look at what we can do to change it. You know, and that's where I'm coming from more. So all I want to be able to say to people is, you know, well, I've done it. You can do it, too. It's not going to be death. I understand people's health concerns. It's not going to be damaging. It's not going to be limiting. And there are so many benefits. It's very liberating. And people say, you know, when I have been out, oh, you can't have that. You can't have it. You'll be you can only go. I can't. It could quite easily have it. I choose not to. And that's the liberation, you know, because we're all been brainwashed all the time. We've got the time saying you should have. They should look this way. You should go to these places. You should have these products. It's going to make you happy. Very liberating to say. Actually, not when my own person and I realized that's not going happen. I need to forge my own path in life, which is going to make me happy. And happiness comes from within and exudes outwards decomp by it. And Collingwood's and that's that's the important message. And, you know, as I've seen people, I have hope that I look quite well, really. And I've seen so many people out now on by out walking with the families on a Sunday afternoon on the beach, you know, doing the things, you know, connecting with nature. And I hope that actually they realize that this is this is better than going around a shopping mall or now and you need a computer or playing a game on the television. This is actually what life really is about, connecting with each other and our environments.  [01:00:44] Absolutely. Yeah, it's a it's another great offshoot from it.  [01:00:48] Well, Fiona, we are out of time, but I want to say thank you so much for taking the last hour and time today.  [01:01:00] Thank you very much. Absolutely. For everyone listening, we have been speaking with Fiona Oaks. She's the co-founder of the Vegan Runners. She is also the founder of Tower Hill Stables. Animal Rescue and Sing. You can find it online at w w w dot. Tower Hill Stables Dot Work. Thank you for giving us your time today. And until we speak again next time.  [01:01:20] Remember to eat clean and responsibly, stay in love with the world and always bet on yourself. 

Kate Thornton gets Christopher Dean and Jayne Torvill to join her on a video to call and reminisce about their 1984 Sarajevo Winter Olympic gold, the sliding door moments that led to it, the incredible friendship that continues to this day, and their plans for the return of Dancing on Ice – what does a post-pandemic skate look like?And in case you want to relive that magical Olympic gold after listening to this episode, you can find it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8obUdxnTlc. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Grab your tear gas canister briefcase, strap on your shoes with the poisoned pointy spikes, and get cracking with Nat & Stu on the cracker film that is "From Russia With Love". Bond is in Istanbul getting lured into love for a Lektor, ably assisted by the brilliant M16 station head Ali Kerim Bey, and pursued by the evil Rosa Klebb and her assassin Red Grant. There's also talk of the stunning Tatiana Romanova's agency thrown in, plus more highly non-topical Torvill & Dean references than you would expect in a Bond podcast.

Charlie Baker introduces a platter of sporting morsels as we revisit some classic encounters and memorable moments from the past few months. In this episode we discover the problems of dining with Torvill & Dean, why football should be officiated by mums and which rock God had a nasty encounter with a children's TV favourite. All that and much more as we go panning for radio gold and uncover some right nuggets. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Anders Torvill Bjorvand, CEO & Founder Kommunion as og CEO Ecclesia Systemer As deler tanker om entreprenørskap og kreativitet.  Les mer om Anders her: http://anderstorvillbjorvand.com   

Garret Daly fills us in on Irish director John Butler’s 3rd feature, Dora the Explorer hits the big screen, Men in Black & Emma Thompson, a TV movie on ice-skating stars 'Torvill and Dean' and all the new releases this weekend.

The seventh episode of the podcast which asks: if Les Dennis and Dustin Gee were Torvill and Dean, who would be who? This episode sees us firmly on the wrong half of the Eighties, with Live Aid a mere five-and-a-bit weeks behind us, and the Greatest Pop Programme Ever is not coping very well with it. At all. For starters, it's been shunted up to 7.55pm to make way for Eastenders, The Kids are burdened with pom-poms and manky pastels and pushed right to the back of the studio and danced at by Pineapple Studio Wankers, there's a compulsion to lob in as many videos as possible, Garry Davies is wearing an appalling jacardigan, and there's Steve Wright. As for the actual music, Lisa Lisa is with Cult Jam (but without Full Force), Drive by The Cars is trotted out for the second year running, Kate Bush rises about it all as usual, Stock Aitken and Waterman make a record that actually manages not to get on your wick. and oh look, there's Madonna with her pits over the hand dryer. And there's a woman cupping a right handful of a gorilla's breasts. Al Needham is joined by Taylor Parkes and Neil Kulkarni for an unflinching gaze into the open wound of post-Live Aid Pop, breaking off to discuss failed Marxist dictatorships in Ethiopia, failed attempts at breakdancing, Psychobilly caravan holidays in Skegness, persistently homosexual Mexicans, the Curse of Arsewasher's Back, and white boys from villages going to black hair salons in order to look like a wrestler. And swearing. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Some things just go together naturally, like tea and biscuits or Torvill and Dean. Other combinations don’t seem such an easy fit, like chilli and chocolate or Orville and Cuddles. In this episode we investigate the science of food duets and the mash ups of sports. We find out that Chess boxing is actually real, and get to play a round of Foot Golf with some of the leading players in the UK. Whilst they give us some tips, we find out about one of the fastest growing sports, the opportunities it’s providing and how it’s a great sport whether you’ve played football, golf, or neither. Our music this week comes from duets, collaborations and mash ups. www.podcastsfromthepub.com Theme Song "Sly Tout Croche" by Tortue Super Sonic,  CC BY-NC-SA 3.0  Modified to use as theme song http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Tortue_Super_Sonic/ Additional Music: "Slinky" by Dlay. CC BY-SANC-ND 4.0 Modified to use. freemusicarchive.org/music/Dlay

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Eric Ravilious was one of the finest watercolourists that the UK has ever produced. Born in 1903, he died in 1942 while on duty as an official war artist. Does a new exhibition of his work reveal his genius? In Swedish film 'Force Majeure', an avalanche during a family skiing holiday causes no physical damage but opens fissures in the happy family structure Olympic gold medallists Torvill & Dean have a new TV series: 'Ice Rink On The Estate'. They attempt to turn a group of kids from a deprived Nottingham housing estate are turned into an ice dance troupe. There are very few roles for older actresses, but in April de Angelis' play 'After Electra', the main character is 81 years. The co-writer of Peep Show, Jesse Armstrong has written his debut novel - Can a successful witty TV writer easily make the transfer?

Episode 115: The Torvill & Dean Years [1:52:05] You can Listen online or Download MP3 (Right click… save as) It’s Episode 115 of In the Mood for Podcast, a British-based film podcast hosted by Calum Reed of Ultimate Addict and Pete Sheppard of In the Mood for Blog. This week’s episode tops the 100-minute mark, as we take (a lot of) time […]

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In 1984, the British ice skaters Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean entranced the world with their performance of Ravel's Bolero at the Winter Olympics. Torvill and Dean scored a row of perfect 6s and stormed to Olympic gold. They speak to Alex Collins about their world record performance.(Photo: Jayne Torvill and Christopher Dean. Credit: Getty Images)

February 2014An interview with the legendary Dick Button. What hasn't he done? He's practically the father of our sport (if Jackson Haines were Grandfather). The two-time Olympic Gold medalist invented many of the jumps and spins we see today, and he invented figure skating commentary. He's a skater, producer, commentator, actor, truth-seeker, hall-of-famer, stirrer-upper, and figure skating's biggest fan. This first episode focuses on his new book Push Dick's Button, a fantastic book that is a really wonderful conversation on skating. 55 minutes, 50 seconds. [display_podcast] AM: Allison ManleyDB: Dick Button AM:  Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Manleywoman Skatecast. I'm your host, Allison Manley, and this is Episode 73, an interview with Dick Button. That's right!  You heard it, here it is! Any longtime fan of my podcast knows I have been chasing this interview for years. Years! And it only took writing a poem, some polite stalking, a pinch of begging, and quite a bit of persistence and tenacity — and let's face it, it doesn't hurt that he was trying to spread the word about his new book. All I know is that I'm thrilled to have been finally able to interview him. So, in case you don't know his many accomplishments, I'm going to list them off first. Here is the general overview of what Dick Button has done for this sport. He was the first skater to have won the men's novice, junior and senior titles in three consecutive years. He was the first skater to land a double axel. He was the first skater to land a triple jump, which was a triple loop, and the first male skater to perform a camel spin. And he was the inventor of the flying camel spin, also known as the Button camel. He's the only American to win the European title. He's the first American world champion, the first American to win the Olympic title in figure skating, the first and only American back-to-back champion. He is the first and only American skater to simultaneously hold all of the following titles: national, North American, European, World and Olympic. That's five. He's the youngest man to win the Olympic title in figure skating, at age 18, and it shocks me still that this record stands today. He is the winner of the Sullivan Award. In the 1960s he began doing television commentary, and has been gracing our television sets for decades since. He was inducted into the World Skating Hall of Fame in 1976, which was the initial class. He won an Emmy Award in 1981 for outstanding sports personality/analyst. He was a producer of skating shows including The Superstars, which was the first of the reality shows. He starred in movies and on television, and on the stage. The autobiography he wrote in 1955 is a fount of knowledge, and is incredibly well written. I highly recommend that you all find a copy and give it a read. And, of course, he is the author very recently of Push Dick's Button, a fantastic book that is a really wonderful conversation on skating. Dick and I decided to do this interview in two parts. The first will be focused on his book and all the ideas within. The second part will focus more on his career and life in skating, and will follow at a later date to be determined.  Anyone who knows my podcast knows that I've been dying to capture his voice on tape for the fans. So, ladies and gentlemen, may I present — Dick Button. ----- AM:  All right, Dick Button, are you ready? DB: I am. AM: So, thank you so much for your book. It's wonderful. I have to ask, why did you write it at this time? DB: And my question to you is, what do you mean by “at this time”? Are you saying that I'm a very old poop [laughs] and therefore don't have any understanding of what the hell is going on in today's world? Or are you asking it because it's been a long time since I have written? I wrote a book in 1952 or 1954, when I was a very young person, and then I did one other paperback kind of book a couple of years later. I don't understand the question “at this time”?  I mean, that does that mean? Am I missing something? AM: I guess it is curious that it has been such a long time. I do actually have the book from the 1950s, and I think it's interesting that the book that you chose to release now, rather than being a biography or an autobiography, is such a conversational book. So I suspect that you felt the need to have this conversation, so that's why I'm asking. Is skating frustrating you to the point where you felt like you had to tell these opinions? DB: I'll tell you what it really is. Number one, it was in the past exceedingly difficult for me to write. The advent of the computer and the lectures that I give on gardening introduced me to an entire new way to write. If you write on your computer, you can erase things, you can change things, you can move things around, and you don't have to rewrite painfully every single word. So the system and the ability to write was exceedingly pleasant. Then I also have a very good friend who had gotten me a major contract ten years ago, that was with Simon and Schuster, and I had a great opportunity to write a very good book at a very high-priced contract. And that was at the same time that I had gone skating on New Year's Eve, and fell and fractured my skull, and got concussions and lost the hearing in my left ear. And I also had a co-writer with me, and it didn't work. We just didn't work out. In other words, it was too much. I couldn't handle it at that time. It took me about two or three years to really get my act together and to recoup from that fall. So the important thing was, this same lady, who is a great friend of mine and who got me that contract, her name is Pat Eisemann-Logan — I finally said to her, Pat, what can I do for you? And she said, I'll tell you what you can do. I would like it if you would come and sit on the couch next to me and tell me what the heck is going on with what we are watching. So I sat down one day and I just wrote out a couple of things, a few chapters, and she said, yeah, that's terrific. And I love it because, number one, it doesn't have to be The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire of Skating. It is a simple conversation. Conversations are meant to be interrupted, to have answers, to have somebody kvetch about it. Conversations can range from any subject to any subject, and that's why I like the idea of this. I did not want to do a history of skating, which others have done before this, and I did not wish to do a biography. I think there's far too much more of great interest around the world of skating. I wanted to do what subjects came up to my mind, what it is to watch for at the Olympics, and most of the questions you've asked me about this are  all in that book. So it was a very pleasant experience for me, I enjoyed it no end, and I'm happy to have done it and done it the way I did. Although I will tell you that there are three books that you write and three skating programs that you skate and three pictures that you paint.  They are, number one, the book you plan, number two, the book you do, and number three, the book you wish you'd done [laughs]. So if you can put up with that, you're a good gal. AM: It does seem to have worked out that this is the book you wish you had done. You seem very pleased with it. DB: Oh, yes, but there's a lot of things that I . . .  listen, if I had started with all the things I made notes of, I would have had six more volumes [laughs]. I don't think so. AM: Well, I do love the fact that even though it's not biographical, that you have a lot of sprinklings of your history in there. I mean, I think that's a great addition to the opinion pieces that are in there, because there's definitely opinions in there as well. DB: Well, it's a conversation. It covers whatever's on your mind. The one chapter that many people have criticized, they say, we know what jumps are, you don't have to put a chapter in there saying the different jumps. But my doctor said to me, "Dick, my daughter skates and we all really like watching the skating, but I can't tell one jump from another, how can I do that?" And it annoyed him. So I put in this brief explanation, if you don't know what a jump is, there's three or four or five or six pages of it, and if you already know which jumps are which — skip over it! This is not the end of the world book. This is not the end of the world subject. It is a conversational piece. And I hope like the devil that people can figure out that they can learn something from it. Because I enjoyed very much doing it. AM: Well, great. And I do want to ask you some questions about it, obviously without giving away too much, because people should buy it and read it, of course [laughs]. DB: [laughs] Well, we don't have long enough on this conversation, so go ahead and spring your questions. AM: Well, one of the things you are concerned about is losing the theatrical part of skating. And I wonder, from a competitive standpoint, how you think it can be preserved. There are a lot of people trying to preserve it outside of competition, but in the competitive arena, what are your thoughts on that? DB: Let me also start out by saying that competition, the Olympic Games which we're about to start into in another day or two — they get the most audience. Figure skating and dancing, they're kissing cousins, and figure skaters have the opportunity to become instantly famous and household names. Dancers don't have that. So if a figure skater has that opportunity, and the Olympic competition is there, it's marvelous that they take part and do it. However, figure skating is a complete sport. It's a sport that has music, choreography, costuming, performance level, story level — it has so many different aspects that are intimately intertwined with each other. Figure skating is theatre, and I don't care who tells me that it's not. The head of the ISU, the head of the Olympic Committee, and a lot of guys get all honked about it and say it's not a sport. Well, don't watch it! If you think it's not a sport, don't watch it, and I couldn't care less. However, the point is very simply that it is all of these things. It is theatre, it always has been theatre, and it will always continue to be theatre. And that is the very reason that makes it so popular at the Olympic Games. Now the reason I'm saying this is, there's an old saying that Oleg Protopopov used to tell me all the time, and that was, “Deek! Deek! You cannot have artistry without technique. But neither can you have technique without artistry”. The old votes, the old judging system had two marks. They were for technical merit and for artistic impression. The new marks, in essence, if you really want to see what the icing on top of the cake is, the subterfuge of it all, is they have all the marks that you get on your point system first, and then they have the component scores. Have you ever read the component scores? AM: I have. DB: Then you know that they mix together choreography, step sequences, footwork, et cetera, et cetera, and they have something like 27 or 28 different criteria to figure and allot to a skater's program within about two seconds. That's almost an impossible thing. And also, you will never know what it's about because it's secret. All I'm saying is that yes, there are many other organizations — there's Disney on Ice and Stars on Ice and individual singles skating here and there, and there's ensemble skating with the Ice Theatre of New York, and there's synchronized skating, and there's all kind of things. But it's the theatrical performance level that mesmerizes us. I mean, why did we look at Katarina Witt? Not only was she sensational looking, but she had personality and pizzazz. Let me ask you a question. Why is Evgeni Plushenko such a hot subject? I'll tell you why. Because he has personality. He's a great jumper, not a great spinner. But he has personality. He has pizzazz. And you can't take your eyes off him, watching what he's going to do. He will bamboozle you with his wrist movements . . . AM: He'll make you think he's skating with those wrist movements [laughs]. DB: Of course, I've seen him do that half a dozen times. He stops and does a bunch of fancy wrist movements around his belt line, and that's supposed to be great theatrical skating or something. Let me tell you something. Who is it that you want to watch at this Olympic Games? Who is it they are looking forward to watching? AM: Jeremy Abbott and Jason Brown. DB: You mean you want to see the competition between them. AM: The competition between them, but I think both are so wonderful. They bring something so different. DB: Absolutely right. And so do half a dozen of these skaters. I think what you really want to see also is Davis and White and how they impact the show. And who do we remember out of the past? Come on, you remember the stars that had pizzazz, that had presence, that grabbed you. There's a whole chapter in my book there about entrances and exits, and it's all about the difference between an Irina Slutskaya entering the skating arena — the first thing she does is skate over to her coach, takes a swig of water, high fives her coach, and adjusts the pants on her dress. And the next thing she does is blow her nose. Now, come on, is that theatre? That's not a humdinger of an entrance. The point is that, how does Katarina Witt do it? She doesn't lose for one moment the presence, the theatre aspect of it. And the gal we remember most of those two has gotta be Katarina Witt. And that's why there's a chapter in the book called "Where Are You When We Need You, Katarina Witt?" And . . . what else can I tell you? [laughs] This is my favorite rant. AM: You're passionate and I love it. I love every minute of it. DB: Well, come on, you know, it's a fun activity. It's a very complicated activity. It has so many elements to it that you simply cannot avoid any one of them. And the level of performance is one of those characteristics. AM: Yes. Well, you are a vocal critic of the judging system, but I am curious because you have said that there are parts of it that you think are worth preserving. What parts would that be? DB: Well, for example, I think you should always have a markdown if you fall. Right now what we are seeing is — how many people fell in the last [2014] National Championship, both men and women, in the different parts. How many people fall down? AM: Not a lot this year, actually. DB: Well, Ashley Wagner, she did. But you're being rewarded if you do a quadruple jump and you fall down but you're rotated almost enough to complete the thing in the air. This is all part of Ottavio Cinquanta's desire to — if he had his way, he would not have any judges there at all, and it would all be based on points and timing. I would like the fact that there would be no reward at all for a fall. And a deduction if you fall down.  I write about this in my book, there was a communiqué from the ISU explaining what falls were. You don't know what a fall is, I don't know what a fall is, certainly. But this rule came out and then three months later, there was — I mean, the question was, what part of the body was the fall on, was it on your bottom, was it on your core, and if you were on your fanny, were you on one buttock or another buttock or were you on both buttocks [laughs]. And then along came three months later this explanation, this clarification, and then changes to the rule that explained what a fall was [laughs]. So you have to read all that to understand the sense of the nit-picking. Now listen, let me tell you something else, and I write about this in the book . I challenge you to count — take one of the ladies anywhere, not necessarily Ashley Wagner, but start with a young lady and start counting the number of times when they're doing step sequences and all of those wonderful things, where they raise either one or the other or both arms over the level of their shoulders. And if you start counting, my bet is that you will get to 20 very, very quickly, and then you can stop. They're like flailing windmills. That's exactly the point. That does not augur well, in my book. First of all, there's just gotta be less talk about it. Why do you have to have something that is exactly two minutes with so many seconds on either end of it? That isn't the way. You should have one program that is your technical program, and one program that is your creative or other program, but neither one should be acceptable or be able to be marked well unless it has the qualities of the other one. One should be of technical merit and one should be of — the old judging captions, artistic impression, they are in a sense that way now, they're just called something different, it's technical marks and the program components. AM: So I wonder, you do outline at the end of the book your wishes and suggestions for better scoring, and they do include that the two programs should be different and that there shouldn't be a time limit. DB: Put it this way, there should be a time limit, but a generous one. I mean, during the World Professional Championships, we recorded the length of time of every skater, and only once did somebody ever go over, I think, maybe four and a half or five minutes.  So if you have three and a half minutes or four minutes, a generous thing — what difference does it make? Why do you just have to limit yourself? This is just the one program, not the technical program, the artistic impression program. AM: Well, I'm curious, what do the powers that be think about your ideas? Have you gotten any feedback? DB: No, I don't have feedback, because they . . . Ottavio Cinquanta does not want any subjective judging there. Remember, he is a speed skater, and all he can see — number one, he has two goals to his agenda. And once you understand a man's agenda, you will understand what he will do. His agenda is to have, number one, to never have another scandal like we had in Salt Lake at the pairs skating competition. And number two, he's all for eliminating anything subjective about the sport. He would like it to be like speed skating. You get over the line first, you've won. Now that is not figure skating. And besides he's said it too many times, and he's the one who put the new rules system in. My chapters go into all of that and show the chicanery that was involved with it. And now because he [laughs] made a contractual offer and placed every officer in their position for an additional period of time, he will now remain as head of the ISU until the year 2016. It's a chapter in the book as well. AM: You have always been an advocate for great spinning. You've talked about Dorothy Hamill, Lucinda Ruh, Ronnie Robertson, so I have to wonder, that in the new judging system, it has to be nice that at least you see the spins getting rewarded even if you don't always love the positions. DB: Well, I find that the multiple levels — you know, everything that you look at, there's a grade of execution, there's a level of difficulty. If you add more moves and turns into your spin, you get more points. But nobody gets points for blurred spinning. Nobody gets points for the things that used to make the audience stand on their feet and cheer. Spinning is just as important as jumping, and it's one of the two major technical elements in skating, the other being jumping and then of course there's spinning. And when you see somebody moving from position to position and changing their edges, all that sort of thing, you're not looking at the spin. At least have one spin that reflects the total true quality of a fast, delayed, long lived spin, where everything counters on the centering and everything counters on the blurring of it and on the finishing of it. Look, I don't have to have everything that I like, it's what other people like too, but I will tell you, there's very little to cheer for when you get a 243.8 personal best score. That doesn't give the average person an understanding of what the heck the score is all about, except that somebody else can get 283.9. And I trust that was more than the first number I gave [laughs]. AM: Well, I've actually always wanted that. I've always wanted there to be at least one spin that was skaters' choice, if you will, that they could do just for choreographic effect. Just like they've finally done with the step sequences, where you can just do one that you don't have to do without so many turns and flailing and windmilling, but it's one that just works with the music. DB: Well, there's very little — you can't really create things that are unusual or unexpected or different and expect to get anywhere under the current judging system. AM: Well, you have of course mentioned before that the ISU needs to be split, that skating shouldn't be run by a speed skater any longer. It's going to be a while, of course, since Ottavio wrote his own contract . . . DB: Well, of course he did, and nobody stood up to him. Nobody was able to stand up to him because he has cultivated so many federations which are all speed skating federations which get their money from figure skating. So what do they care? Why would they care what the rules for figure skating are, any more than a figure skater would care less whether the speed skating race is another 50 meters or not?  That's up to the speed skaters to understand that. And the very fact that they — did you know that there are over 80 federations in the world of skating? AM: I didn't know there were that many. DB: Over 80, and most of them all — the majority either are speed skating or joint speed skating and figure skating. And they get money from figure skating, the ISU pays them money from figure skating. And the end result is that of course they're going to do what he wants. AM: Do you think there's anyone out there right now who can challenge him, who can be the next great leader, to separate the two? DB: I think probably everybody is scared beyond belief. You see, the impact of the Olympic Games is always the most publicized event, but I can guarantee you, even the world championships which are taking place after the Olympic Games, they're not going to be on live. They're going to be in about two weeks in a summary program on NBC. Now maybe there's some obscure cable system or Ice Network that will show them, but you have to buy that cable system. I'm sure there will be recordings of it. But [laughs] here's a world championship that will be coming up a month later than the Olympic Games. Wouldn't you think it should deserve — and it used to always be very much of a highlight. Now it's sloughed off and it's shown a week or two weeks later after the world championship is over. I don't like that. AM: I don't either. All right, well, let's move on from the judging and talk about which skaters for you right now are really exciting. You've mentioned Davis and White. DB: Well, look, let me tell you something. My book covers a point about to wilt or not to wilt. When you have somebody who simply does not wilt, that in itself is exciting. And many a time, those people that can rise to the occasion, and suddenly pull together a program that is phenomenal — it's what you want to see. I mean, I found myself rising out of my seat when Jason Brown performed, because he in a sense broke the rules. It will be very interesting to see how he fares in this international competition, when he has competition from not only Jeremy Abbott but from Chan, Plushenko, Denis Ten, Javier Fernandez, and the Japanese skaters. It'll be very interesting to see how he compares in that to them. Remember, the national championship is one where it's a single country. And there aren't countries that are vying to improve their lot because that's the way they get money from the ISU. It's a different situation. I hope like the devil that he does brilliantly. I find him a fascinating skater and I was entranced by the choreography. And the choreography was done by Rohene Ward. I remember talking to him a couple of years ago, saying, you are going to keep on skating, aren't you? And he said, no, I'm not. And I felt that was a great loss. I'm very happy now to see him back in force as a choreographer. AM: Yes. And I'm happy to see someone, that he has a student that can interpret that choreography so well. Because, you know, Rohene was a very unusual talent, and oddly enough Jason has a lot of the same qualities, with his extreme flexibility and his showmanship. DB: Wait a minute. Are you telling me that that flexibility can't be gained by other people? They can, if they would understand what that is and follow that. AM: No, but I think Rohene was very unusual for a male skater to be able to use it to choreographic effect. DB: Why as a male skater? AM: Well, because most men, if they could do the splits like that, they certainly wouldn't lower themselves on the ice and pull themselves back up and do a lot of — Johnny Weir could lift his leg all the way up before a lutz, too, just like Jason and Rohene can, but it is unusual. DB: Well, that's because they don't follow that either. If you look at the number of skaters among the ladies that – well, look, there's a totally developable way. Guys can learn. You see it in gymnastics, for heaven's sake, If they do it, why can't figure skaters? Look, this is called the development of the — right now, I can guarantee you there's very, very little of the component score voting for some of the stuff that Jason Brown did. He was marvelous in the fact that he did not open his program with the single most difficult jump that he could. I'm really fascinated to see how the international version of this will work out, the international competition coming up in the Olympic Games. AM: So you did mention that he is a bit of a rule breaker in that sense, and you have said in your book that rules are made to be broken. And you did use Torvill and Dean as a perfect example of that, of course, from 1984. Is there a rule that you see right now that you wish someone would break, or push a little more? DB: Yeah. If you look at the rules of the component scores, you will see that, number one, they include skating skills, transitions/linking footwork and movement, performance and execution, choreography, and composition. Now what is the difference between choreography and composition, and transitional and linking footwork and movement, et cetera? I mean, aren't these the same things? AM: To me they are. To me it's semantics. DB: That's right. And isn't it better to have a skater develop that through their own intelligence rather than having to control those step sequences through it? And the linking movement and the linking footwork? And the transitions and the linking movement? [laughs].There was a wonderful English lady who would always comment on English television, and she had a very high voice, and when it came out, linking movements, we were all happily amused [laughs]. AM: Well, that's a good challenge for the next person listening to this, to try to push those boundaries a little bit per Dick Button's request. All right. So, you have a chapter on music choices, and there are a lot of choices as you know that are constantly overused and that we are all tired of hearing about. So is there a piece of music that you have never gotten tired of hearing, that you feel is underutilized? DB: Look, these pieces of music are time-honored pieces of music. So if you look at, for example, Swan Lake, I still will go, when I go to the theatre in the winter time, I still will go to New York City and see Swan Lake. I mean, it doesn't stop any more than certain songs that you get tired of. It is the way they're developed, and I do a whole thing in this book on the development of music by the skater, and whether they understand what the music is saying. And when you pick a piece of music like Carmen or Swan Lake, it comes with over a hundred years — one comes with much more than a hundred years and one comes from close to a hundred years — of very fine history and development and interpretation. Are you telling me that because six skaters do it within a two-year period of time that you're tired of it? I find it's that the skater hasn't developed it. We're always seeing different interpretations of dance, and if you get tired of Swan Lake being done, then try to bring a great quality into it that makes it sing. Swan Lake is wonderful for skating because it has long sweeping movements. It is not Irish clog dancing or step dancing. AM: Well, I think if you're going to pick, and this is my opinion, but I think if you're going to pick one of the commonly used pieces, you better make it good and different and that's what I think — Samantha Cesario, I don't know if you saw her program, when she did it this year at Nationals I thought it was fantastic. And I am not a fan of using Carmen because I think that after Debi Thomas and Katarina Witt had the battle of the Carmens, you'd better leave Carmen pretty dead. You know? [laughs] DB: But one of the things is, you have to understand what the music is. I write about this in the book, and I talk about Mao Asada who is a lovely skater and a very nice person. But she had all the white feathers and all the music, et cetera, but there was no understanding of the movement of a swan in that. There was no understanding of the history of Swan Lake. I mean, you can't have a program that has been performed for more than one hundred years now, nearly one and a half centuries, in great companies with great choreography and great sweeping music, and not understand what that performance level is. You must understand the music, you must be able to — and there are different interpretations of the music, different orchestrations, there are many times different ones. Whatever the piece of music it is that you choose, you can find sometimes more than one interpretation, and unfortunately we don't hear about that on the commentary, I don't think. AM: Is there a piece of music you would like to hear more? DB: Look, that's like saying is there a great skater that I'd like to see more of. Always! Always.  I like great skating. That's all I'm saying, I like the best. And I want to be — it's theatre, it's athletic ability, it's competition, it's technical demands, it's music, it's choreography, it's costuming, it's the whole kit and caboodle. And I guarantee you, do you think they're going to cut out — I wouldn't be at all surprised, if Ottavio Cinquanta had his way, that he would make everybody wear the same costume for the team competition. AM: They were talking about that. One of the articles this week was talking about putting all the athletes in Nike outfits [laughs]. DB: Yeah, yeah, yeah, remind me of one event I don't want to see if that's the case [laughs]. Oh, gawd. If you have a great product, don't mess with it. Skating was a great product. Now we've messed with it so completely and for so long that it's very disheartening. Remember, you're not a member of the rules committee if you're not making rules. If you're a rule maker, you have to be making rules or otherwise you're not a rule maker. AM: [laughs] They got a little over-zealous. All right. Your commentary is epic. People still talk about it, they miss hearing you, your catchphrases have inspired a drinking game and compilations on YouTube. And you have gotten some heat for your comments such as “refrigerator break”. DB: I'd like to address that. What the heck, would it have been better if I had said, it will give you an opportunity to make a toilet break? I don't think so. A refrigerator break — you know, I think I got over 1100 letters from people saying that I had only said that, I wouldn't have said that if this, that, and the other thing. And I wrote each one of them back and I said, look, Angela Nikodinov was a very talented skater, but she was skating against Michelle Kwan, and there is no problem coming in second behind Michelle Kwan, but she was coming in fifth, fourth, second, third, fourth, that sort of thing, floating around. But what she allowed you to do was to lose your sense of concentration on her. That's where performance level comes in. She was a gorgeous, lovely skater, with wonderful technique and very, very beautiful on the ice. But she allowed you to lose your sense of concentration. She allowed you to switch off and take a refrigerator break. And after I answered that, I never heard anything more about it. AM: But she did listen to you, though. Because she came back amazing the next year. She made you pay attention. DB: [laughs] Well, that's my gold medal. My gold medal is when I hear, when I make a criticism of somebody and then I see later that they have either improved it or changed it. One of the things I always said about Evgeni Plushenko was, way back in 2002, I said, he's a wonderful jumper but he's a lousy spinner. And the next year, or two years, I was at a championship, and he said, how are my spins? Are they better? So he was listening, and he made it good. And his spins were better. And that's a great compliment to me, when somebody does that. AM: So how many skaters would you say have come up to you and talked to you about your comments about their performance? DB: Well, I had a lot of skaters say, can you point it out to me. One of them was Jason Dungjen and his partner, Kyoko Ina. Kyoko Ina had exquisite posture and stretch and arching of the back, and Jason was like a nice all-American skater without that same stretch. So when they did a pair move, hers was extended beautifully and his was not parallel to it. As soon as I pointed that out to him, he understood exactly what I was talking about, and I think they worked hard on it. So that was a great honor to me. That is my gold medal, my reward, when a skater will do that. And look, you really only criticize, I say this in the book, you really only criticize a skater if they're talented. If they're not talented, it doesn't spark comment. AM: Would you say the refrigerator break comment was the largest reaction you've gotten over the years from fans, or was there another one? DB: It was one of them. Another one of them was when I commented one time about, I think it was crossing the street in New York, and everybody said, oh, you wouldn't have said that if the skater that I was referring to wasn't black. And come on, I encourage my kids to cross the street, I say, stop and look in both directions, otherwise you'll get run over and then you'll look like a pancake on that road. It's about an awareness of your surroundings, and you've got to be aware of the surrounding effect in an arena. How many times do you see — go back and look at programs. That's why some day I would like to see a great media museum of skating. Because if you go back and you look at these performances and you consider them, then you will never forget that. And it will apply itself, it will be another basis for another understanding of what it is that you're doing. Every position you take on the ice should be thought out. You cannot just do these positions where you see the skater come out and they take their position and the free leg toe is pointed behind and to the side of the skating leg — you know, the kind of position you take where one foot is flat on the ice and the other is on a point behind you. Look at the number of times you see, what is the position of that foot? Is it turned under, or is it not in an elegant position? If you want to see proper position, look at Oleg and Ludmila Protopopov, and John Curry, and Janet Lynn, and Peggy Fleming. And Dorothy Hamill, who became an infinitely better skater after she had won the Olympics. I was a better skater after I had finally learned, long after I had retired, and learned from — there's a whole chapter in this, it's called "Open Your Eyes, Dummy." And it was my opening my eyes which led me finally to understand what the heck skating was all about. AM: Well, I would love it if we finally had a media museum with all those performances. DB: There is the museum in Colorado Springs, but it doesn't have any money. US Figure Skating is not really going to support it because they want to support skating today. But sometimes the education, the media education is imperative. AM: Yes. Well, I am hopeful that one day will come to fruition, that there will be a central place where all that is housed, and it's not just Youtube [laughs]. So, all right, your book, I sort of felt like as I was reading it, and this is sort of getting heavy here, I really felt that it was a metaphor for living a balanced and fulfilling life. It talks about centering yourself, breaking the rules, having a solid foundation, fighting the good fight, not wilting under pressure, and having a whole lot of fun. Do you view skating that way? DB: Yep. You know, skating is no different than gardening, than painting, than anything else. You know, I hope you'll come some day and see my garden lecture [laughs]. Then you can do a conversation on that for a different sport. But all of these things intertwine. Why do you dress the way you do? Why do you speak the way you do? Why do you live in a house, if you have the opportunity to live in a house, why do you choose the style of house you do? All of these are inherent in skating, and they are inherent in everything else. It is called not only what the eye beholds, it's what the eye registers. One of my pet peeves is watching skaters take position in the center of the ice, when they skate down and they're on one foot, and the other knee is bent. Time after time, you look at that particular entrance move on one foot, and it's not a beautiful move, but yet there is every skater doing it. What is that move, what is that position supposed to be? If you ask the skater, what are you trying to express by that, are you expressing a welcoming moment to the crowd? You don't have to be on one foot to do that. Take a look at it yourself, and I urge all your listeners to take a look at that, and take a look at the number of times an arm flings above the shoulder. And question each and every one. Peggy Fleming, always, I would see her in front of a mirror at a rink, constantly checking out the way she finished a turn or a pirouette, or made a turn, and how the dress worked with it. She was constantly looking at that. And you will find that she does not make a move even today without knowing exactly what that position is, whether she's on skates or not. Ludmila and Oleg Protopopov, and I talk about this in the book, I went up to Lake Placid where they were getting a lifetime achievement award, and of course the Lake Placid club or whoever it was didn't have any money for publicizing it, and it was an almost empty arena. However, the Protopopovs skated in it as if they were skating for the King and Queen of England. And Oleg took an opening position with Ludmila, and you take one look — without them moving one inch, they took a position, and I said, that's it, that's their whole performance right there in that position.  They were stunningly beautiful in that position. And they're well into their 70s, and there was the story, right there. My problem is, I can't look at skating — that's one of the sickening things with having watched it for so long, is that I've seen extraordinary performances, Belita Jepson-Turner, Noffke and Schubach, pairs skaters who were champions of the US in the 40s, the movement, their parallelism of their moves was extraordinary. They couldn't do throw axels and they couldn't know what triple side-by-side jumps were and so forth, but their pair skating quality was without compare. I mean, it was just extraordinary. All I'm asking the skaters to do, and everybody else to do, is to look at it, and say, why are we doing this? Each step, what is it supposed to do, and is it? Does it interpret the music and does it interpret — John Curry, we did a thing with Ice Theatre of New York, Dance on Camera, at Lincoln Centre over the weekend, and it was all about, it was a great deal of comment and production in the John Curry film of what he was teaching skaters and the way he was making them look at film. Slavka Kohout used to do that. She would take all her dancers in to see the ballet, or any other production that had dance movement in it. It wasn't about seeing it, it was about registering it. And that's the important thing. If there's only one thing I hope for in this book, with a little bit of tomfoolery that you don't get stuck into something serious, and, number two, that it opens your eyes. AM: I love that. All right, I just have one more question for you, then, since we are just days away from the Olympics. I am curious what you think about the new team event. DB: Oh, I don't really think much about it at all one way or the other. I think if they want to do it, that's fine. It gives a secondary skater a secondary choice, and it gives somebody who may not win a medal another chance to win a medal, and I'm fine with that. I don't have any great problem with it. You know, God bless them, what they're doing is trying to get another set of television exposure, and that produces money and blah blah blah. The one thing, though, that I did understand was that when the rules were not quite set in Budapest, at the European championships, the newspaper people were asking Ottavio Cinquanta what was the rule about such and such, and he said he didn't know. He said, you have to ask the Russians about that. Well, hello! Are the Russians the ones that are controlling the sport? I mean, the Russians are a hell of a good skaters, and very efficient, and they've got a wonderful team going, but are they the arbiters of our sport? That's my complaint. “I am a speed skater, I know nothing about figure skating.” AM: I know, it's incredible. Well, I agree with you that it's wonderful that there's another opportunity for skaters to get medals, because there's just been the one chance all these decades. But I also don't think that it was done for any reason other than ratings and money. I'm cynical enough for that. But I'm glad to see the skaters get another opportunity. DB: Right. But you've also got to remember that that's why figures are no longer with us. They didn't bring in any money, nobody watched them, they took a lot of time, they were expensive, and they didn't add anything to the income. So this is another one that adds to the income, and it really doesn't change anything. I'm sure they'll all do their same programs that they will do again. They're not going to create a new program now. They might for another year. AM: Maybe for the next round. But we'll see. To be determined [laughs]. Well, I am going to take you up on your offer and invite myself to one of your garden lectures someday. DB: [laughs]. All right. I just finished one at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and one at the Botanic Garden in Arizona, and I've done several in the New York area, in the New York and Connecticut area, and maybe there'll be one in the early spring or so in a nearby city to New York. So I'll let you know. AM: Please! And as we've discussed I'm hoping to come out and see you in a couple of weeks, and do another interview more about you. DB: Good. AM: And I hope that you'll let me come up and take a look at your fantastic art collection of skating art. DB: Oh, you're more than welcome. AM: I would love it. DB: You're more than welcome. You have a good one, my dear, and keep the faith. AM: You too. Enjoy the next couple of weeks of good television. DB: Thank you, ma'am.   AM: And there it is. I have finally had my dream of interviewing Dick Button. I can now die happy. I think. Although, as you heard, he did want to have another conversation later. So we will plan to do that. And until next time —May you be a pioneer with whatever you choose to do. May you be as opinionated and passionate about your life's work as Dick Button is about his life's work. And as he says in his new book Push Dick's Button, on page 46, and yes, I'm paraphrasing just a little bit: don't skate to Carmen. Bye-bye!

I had the pleasure of playing a set at a close friends New Years Eve party this year during cocktail hour. I also had one of my good friends visiting from Vancouver for the holidays and decided to use his guitar skills for the set. This session features some background guitar, coupled with a sexy, smooth and funky lounge feeling on the turn tables. So a big thanks to my buddy Matt Perzel for adding some amazing live chords on this one. Special thanks to Denis Plechkov @denis_plechkov for his contribution to this episode's cover. If you digg the photography, feel free to check out more of his work at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8421153@N07/ 'Hope you enjoy this mix as much as I did making it! Track Listing | Artist | Song (Remix) 1. Kings of Tomorrow - Another Day 2. Ben Watt feat. Sananda Maitreya - A Stronger Man 3. Rasmus Faber feat. Clara Mendes - Cidade Oposta 4. Samantha James - Breathe You In 5. Late Night Alumni - Empty Streets 6. Belleruche - Anything You Want (Not That) 7. Jazzy Lee - I'm Easy (Dave Sinclair Remix) 8. Torvill & Deen feat. Tyree Cooper - Keep It Poppin' (Sounddiggers Remix) 9. Lykke Li - I'm Good I'm Gone 10. Eddie Amador - House Musix (Original) 11. Orlando Vaughan - Better Than Ever (Rafa Remix) 12. Miguel Migs - So Far 13. (Who?) South Street Player- Keeps Changing Your Mind (Daniel Bovie & Roy Rox Remix)

Rodney Hunter - "Take a Ride (Andre Lodemann)" Chris Martin & Dom Martin - "Mama Says" Torvill & Dean feat Tyree Cooper - "Keep it Poppin" Inland Knights & Da Sunlounge "Track B" Soydan - "What U Can (Little Big Man)" Candy Dealers - "Answers" Jackin Box - "Got to Get Down" Bear Who - "Its House (Swirl Peepz Remix)" Sound Diggers - "Lowdown in Blue (Inland Knights Downlow Mix)" Konning & Schultz - "My Pink Suit" Brian Heath - "Hoopology" Bear Who - "The Beat Box (Greenskeepers Beatdown Mix)" Asad Rizvi - "Apathy (Tommy Largo) Scope - "Luz De Sol" Tom Drummond - "The Jam (4Peace Greasy Rub)" Bart Simpson - "Easy Come Easy Go"