Podcast appearances and mentions of John Fogarty

DJ BILL COLEMAN - Friday Night Dance in ANDY COHEN's KIKI LOUNGE [Our 200th Show!!!] @peacebisquit Aired 3/28/25 *Channel 302 on SiRIUS XMEvery Friday - 10pm-1am ET / 7-10pm PT / 3-6am UK or rewind - 2am-5am ET / 11pm-2am PT / 7-10am UKelectro. disco. house. hits. and more.UP! UP! UP! #200[HOUR 1]Music On The Radio (Adam Ten Remix) - Empire Of The Sun Technova (Wyguy Remix) - Towa Tei Sticky (Kue's Studio 54 Mix) - Tyler, The Creator Up! Up! Up! (Radio Edit) - David Jackson Crash (Extended Mix) - Loud Luxury Masquerade (Extended Mix) - TCTS feat. Jem Cooke Blocked (Extended Mix) - DJ Minx High All The Time (Bessey Remix) - Tove Lo Abracadabra (John "J-C" Carr Kiki Lounge DJ Edit) - Lady Gaga Beautiful People (Extended) - David Guetta & Sia Fiesta Cumbiambera (Smith & Sorren Remix) [Extended Mix] - Kidd Spin LOVE LANGUAGE(Original Mix) [Lady Of The House] - XIE. It's Not Right But It's Ok - Whitney Houston & Felix Jaehn Good Luck and Don't F%k It Up (Matt Pop Mix "John "J-C" Carr Kiki Lounge DJ Edit) - RuPaul Million Good Reasons (Extended) - Robin Schulz & Fast Boy [HOUR 2] Wrap Yourself Around Me (Extended Mix) - D.O.D feat. NORTH Dancing In The Dark (Extended Mix) - Noizu & Annaca Told You So (Extended Mix) - Martin Garrix and Jex I Follow Rivers (Extended Mix) - Tiesto Usaria (Raumakustik Remix) - Niconé, Gunjah, Raumakustik Falling Up - Anabel Englund & Punctual Tell Me (Extended Mix) - Sonny Fodera & Clementine Douglas The Less I Know The Better (Extended Mix) - Mau P Ease My Mind (Extended Mix) - Chris Lake x Abel Balder Remember Me (Extended Mix) - Don Diablo & Qobra Have You Ever Seen The Rain (Extended) - Outliers x John Fogarty x Creedence Clearwater Revival Beat Of The Drum (Extended Mix) - Shermanology Freak (Extended Mix) - Biscits Butterflies (Extended Mix) - Jamie Jones & Green Velvet Back For More (Radio Edit) - Keys N Krates Bounce In The Brass (feat. FEYI) [Extended Mix] - Riton Dreamin (feat. Daya) [Anyma Remix] - Dom Dolla[HOUR 3]Itty Bitty - Ashnikko I Know You Want To (Extended Mix - Explicit) - Max Styler Forever Young (Extended) - David Guetta, Alphaville & Ava Maxmessy (Extended Mix) -  Łaszewo Do This Forever (Extended Mix) - Z3LLA Fly Life (salute Remix) - Basement Jaxx shake!the!city!- Knock2, Naliya BATTERY OPERATED - Tigerblind Let It Ride (Jamie Jones Remix) - Lenny Kravitz Tell Me (Extended Mix) -  Sonny Fodera & Clementine Douglas Duro (Extended Mix) -Federico Scavo & ChrstphrEverybody Knows I'm High (NIIKO X SWAE Remix) - SHAED Broke My Rules (Extended Mix) - BKAYE & LilyisthatyouDon't Touch That Dial (Extended Mix) - ROSSI.HOMEGRXWN. squabble up (Hills Bootleg) (Extended) - Kendrick Lamar Devotion -  Lance Savali Be Together (Extended) - Selena Faider feat. House Gospel Choir

Sara and Ashy are in central London chatting to Lions head coach Andy Farrell and four of his assistant coaches in this bumper pod. Farrell tells us whether he will pick French-based players this summer, how many names are on his shortlist for captain and why a lack of Lions coaching experience won't be a problem for his team. Wiggy reflects on his rise through the coaching game and how his family reacted to the news. We also chat to Ireland scrum specialist John Fogarty who treats us to his best Andy Farrell impression. John Dalziel explains how proud he is to be on the Lions coaching ticket, but is feeling 'huge responsibility' to represent Scotland on the tour. There is no Wales representation among the coaching staff, but will that change between now and the end of June? Plus, Simon Easterby reflects on his stint as interim head coach at Ireland and how the experience will benefit him in Australia.

On Wednesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you details of Andy Farrell's Lions coaching staff, and what it means for Ireland's tests with Georgia and Portugal. We hear from two of Farrell's deputies - John Fogarty and Andrew Goodman.Gabrielle Vernier has learned of her punishment following the 20-minute red card she received in Belfast. Niamh O'Dowd explains the 'Green Wave'. Abdelatif Benazzi has landed a decent consolation job after missing out on the chairmanship of World Rugby. And Mohamed Haouas has learned how he'll pay for his latest transgression.

On Wednesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you details of Andy Farrell's Lions coaching staff, and what it means for Ireland's tests with Georgia and Portugal. We hear from two of Farrell's deputies - John Fogarty and Andrew Goodman.Gabrielle Vernier has learned of her punishment following the 20-minute red card she received in Belfast. Niamh O'Dowd explains the 'Green Wave'. Abdelatif Benazzi has landed a decent consolation job after missing out on the chairmanship of World Rugby. And Mohamed Haouas has learned how he'll pay for his latest transgression.

On Wednesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from the France camp ahead of their departure for Dublin. And there's an update on the fitness of Gregory Alldritt. We hear from Mack Hansen and John Fogarty on France's deployment of a 7-1 bench. Marcus Smith has been sensationally dropped by England for the visit of Italy to Twickenham. And Rassie Erasmus addresses chatter that Felix Jones was sent to 'spy' on England.

On Wednesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from the France camp ahead of their departure for Dublin. And there's an update on the fitness of Gregory Alldritt. We hear from Mack Hansen and John Fogarty on France's deployment of a 7-1 bench. Marcus Smith has been sensationally dropped by England for the visit of Italy to Twickenham. And Rassie Erasmus addresses chatter that Felix Jones was sent to 'spy' on England.

On Tuesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from the Ireland camp ahead of Saturday's showdown with France. We hear from scrum coach John Fogarty on Tadhg Furlong's battle to be fit, plus Mack Hansen on the desire to send Ireland's retiring trio out on a high. France have injury concerns over an experienced member of their scrum. Les Bleus have reopened old wounds ahead of their trip to Dublin. Connacht have a new senior assistant coach. And we hear from Jamie George as he craves comfort against Italy.

On Tuesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from the Ireland camp ahead of Saturday's showdown with France. We hear from scrum coach John Fogarty on Tadhg Furlong's battle to be fit, plus Mack Hansen on the desire to send Ireland's retiring trio out on a high. France have injury concerns over an experienced member of their scrum. Les Bleus have reopened old wounds ahead of their trip to Dublin. Connacht have a new senior assistant coach. And we hear from Jamie George as he craves comfort against Italy.

Send us a textThere's a lot to unpack in this episode of 2 Shots on a Barrel with Singer Song Writer Terry Wooley.  First, Terry is no stranger to the Bourbon Trail and was born right here in good ole Kentucky.  Terry talks about song writing and performing with some of the biggest names in Country music.  Also, the good new is that Terry is coming out of retirement and will be booking some shows very soon!  The Bo Brothers had a special guest co-host - Will Knight who was ready immediately to book a show at the brand new Marion County Sportsplex!  Maybe the biggest treat of all was Terry performing a couple of his songs including one he recently wrote!  Sit back, grab a bourbon, and listen to some stories from a fella that has blazed the streets in Nashville!https://www.facebook.com/groups/288170582570690 Bourbon Podcast Bo Brothers

Stephen Gleeson on Tipp FM looks ahead to Tipperary and Limerick in the NHL with John Fogarty and Enda Treacy while Pat O'Donohue talks rugby and Martin Grey previews Tipp and Cork in Ladies Football. Finally Barry Drake previews the dogs. Have a listen...

In the 2nd episode of ROTY 1970, Chris and Steve discuss and score the 3 biggest albums of the year according to Spotify streaming data using their tried and true ROTY rubric:1. Production2. Vocals & Lyrics3. Musical Prowess4. Average Song Score5. Listenability & LegacyAfter that, they score their first "One for Chrissy" album pick of the season. Tune in next week for Part 2 as they round out the top 6 albums of the year and tackle their inaugural "One for Stevie" selection.Our Spotify 1970 Playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4wh5TDngA4VGroLf04Ouw5?si=a1c9404181bf4babE-mail:RecordOfTheYearPod@gmail.comInstagram:@recordoftheyear_podcast

On Wednesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack has the latest news from the Ireland camp ahead of Sunday's trip to Murrayfield. We speak to Dan Sheehan and scrum coach John Fogarty regarding the recent edge to Scotland fixtures. Both France and England are to change their 10s for Le Crunch on Saturday, while Richard Wigglesworth addresses concerns regarding the England squad's fitness. James Hume, Jacob Stockdale and Stuart McCloskey are back for Ulster and their one-off fixture with Les Kiss' Queensland Reds, and we hear from head coach Richie Murphy.

On Wednesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack has the latest news from the Ireland camp ahead of Sunday's trip to Murrayfield. We speak to Dan Sheehan and scrum coach John Fogarty regarding the recent edge to Scotland fixtures. Both France and England are to change their 10s for Le Crunch on Saturday, while Richard Wigglesworth addresses concerns regarding the England squad's fitness. James Hume, Jacob Stockdale and Stuart McCloskey are back for Ulster and their one-off fixture with Les Kiss' Queensland Reds, and we hear from head coach Richie Murphy.

John Fogarty, Gaelic Games Correspondent, Irish Examiner

On Tuesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from the Ireland camp ahead of Saturday's test with Fiji. Scrum coach John Fogarty addresses Ireland's discipline, the threat posed by Fiji, and speaks in glowing terms about history-maker Cian Healy. Jean Kleyn's been handed a start for the Springboks against Wales, as Rassie Erasmus goes with the brothers Hendrikse. Steve Borthwick's been forced into some alterations to his England squad. There's been a change in itinerary for the Lions tour of Australia. And Antoine Dupont's nomination as World Rugby Men's Sevens Player of the Year has been described as "disrespectful".

On Tuesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from the Ireland camp ahead of Saturday's test with Fiji. Scrum coach John Fogarty addresses Ireland's discipline, the threat posed by Fiji, and speaks in glowing terms about history-maker Cian Healy. Jean Kleyn's been handed a start for the Springboks against Wales, as Rassie Erasmus goes with the brothers Hendrikse. Steve Borthwick's been forced into some alterations to his England squad. There's been a change in itinerary for the Lions tour of Australia. And Antoine Dupont's nomination as World Rugby Men's Sevens Player of the Year has been described as "disrespectful".

Jerry spoke to John Fogarty, Irish Examiner GAA correspondent, who reported that Kerry coach Paddy Tally is to be the next manager of Derry.

John Fogarty, GAA Correspondent, Irish Examiner.

Real Housewives of Salt Lake City stars Whitney Rose and Heather Gay pop in for a fiery game of Quick Draw, and Whitney clears up all the drama about her jewellery line Prism. Things take an unexpected turn as we ask the age-old question: Do you wee in the shower? Inspired by a hilarious Sunrise clip, we get into it. Tim has also found what might be the next Picasso—a child prodigy whose art is seriously impressive. Ricki's got us cracking up with her FRAUDULENT story involving a delivery driver and the best excuses used to get out of trouble. Plus, there's a funny twist on men's most popular coffee order, Heidi Klum's latest photoshoot with her daughter is causing a stir, and Nick Jonas has a scary moment on stage (we cover it all in Glossys!).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Fogarty, GAA Correspondent, Irish Examiner

Ciara Doherty speaks to Bernard Durkan TD, Jennifer Whitmore TD, John Fogarty, Niamh Griffin, Larry Donnelly, Wendy Grace and Kevin Cunningham. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

David Faris sends out a warning—Trump's looking for vengeance. But first he, Trump, must figure out his position on abortion. And a few words about Hunter Biden, who's a classic senator's son. To paraphrase John Fogarty. David is a political science professor at Roosevelt University and a columnist for Slate and Newsweek. His opinions are his own. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jerry spoke to John Fogarty of the Irish Examiner who revealed that the Gaelic Players Association giving €30,000 in 2022 to a former inter-county player who has since come under investigation by An Garda Síochána. https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41370733.html

We all know that rock and pop stars live in a different universe to us mere mortals.  Many make strange demands for things that must be provided before they'll perform a show.  Today, we look at stars' demands – whether extreme or reasonable, or blindingly hilarious!  You won't believe some of them.    In Jeff's Rock News, Keith Richards has covered Lou Reed's, “Waiting for the Man”, U2 has played a residency at the Las Vegas Sphere, an unheard Jimi Hendrix song has been included in a time capsule placed on the moon, Deep Purple has released a 50th Anniversary video for “Smoke on the Water” featuring dragons and John Fogarty's Australian tour is cancelled.    Our “Album You Must Listen to Before You Die” is Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark's “1981 debut, Architecture and Morality.  We didn't think much of it!  It's fun episode.  Enjoy.   References:  Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark, Architecture and Morality, Keith Richards, The Power of the Heart: A Tribute to Lou Reed, U2 Sphere Residency, Odysseus Moon lander, Space Blue, Deep Purple, Smoke On The Water, Machine Head, Dweezil Zappa, John Fogarty, tour demands, tour riders, Rock mythology, Rose Tattoo, Canterbury Leagues Club, Angry Anderson, “Paper fucking towels!”, Taylor Swift, Paul McCartney, Madonna, Frank Sinatra, Grace Jones, Metallica, Guns'n'Roses, Justin Bieber, Eminem, Peter Gabriel, Ozzy Osbourne, AC/DC, Iggy and The Stooges, Bob Hope impersonator, Van Halen, brown M&Ms, The Foo Fighters, Weird Al Yankovic 

Today, on Crime & Entertainment, we have Andrea Giovino. Andrea has been the subject of controversy after the widely popular Get Gotti launched on Netflix this past year.  Andrea grew up surrounded by wise guys. Her mother ran cards games for the likes of Joe Gallo. She later had a 2 year relationship with Bonanno Captain Franky Lino. She also dated the alleged Kingpin of New York Mark Reiter, then later was married to a known drug trafficker named John Fogarty. Eventually, Andrea would find herself staring at a lengthy prison sentence. She quickly realized  that the real target was her husband John & John Silvestri, her brother. Andrea was faced with the decision to either cooperate and break the code of omerta in order to save her children or lose them for good. Don't miss this wild episode with Andrea Giovino here on Crime & Entertainment.Get Andrea's book here Divorced from the Mob: My Journey From Organized Crime to Independent Woman https://a.co/d/28dPZgVSubscribe to Andreas podcast here.https://youtube.com/@AndreaGiovino1?si=Gx5Jcp5PFTzBBG4BFollow Andrea on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/andreagiovino?igsh=enNtcnp4djRuaG1jFollow Crime & Entertainment Links to Crime & Entertainment Like us on Facebook -  https://www.facebook.com/crimeandentertainmentLike us on IG - https://www.instagram.com/crimenentertainment/Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4T67Bs5... Listen on Apple Music - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Listen on Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/show/crime-e... Listen on Google Podcast -

On Tuesday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from the Ireland camp ahead of Saturday's Six Nations game at Twickenham. We hear from scrum coach John Fogarty on the current injury situation, the threat posed by England, and the need for the scrum to perform. A Leinster lock looks set for a Premiership move. And Connacht tie down one of their starlets.

Neil Treacy speaks to La Rochelle coach and former Ireland international Ronan O'Gara ahead of this week's Guinness Six Nations opener between France and Ireland in Marseille. We also hear from John Fogarty, Jamison Gibson-Park and Robbie Henshaw ahead of Friday's game at Stade Velodrome.

GAAGO will stream 38 exclusive GAA Championship matches in 2024 as the streaming service announced its schedule for next year. In response to critics, the GAA says many of these matches wouldn't be broadcast otherwise. John Fogarty is GAA correspondent with the Irish Examiner.

John Fogarty, Irish Examiner's Gaelic Games Correspondent

Will O'Callaghan is joined by John Fogarty of The Irish Examiner to look back at all the Munster hurling action, as well as The Irish News's Cahair O'Kane to preview this weekend's Ulster football final!@AIBGAA | #TheToughest

Ireland assistant coach John Fogarty, and players James Lowe & Tadhg Beirne addressed the media on the eve of their clash with Scotland in the final weekend of pool matches at the World Cup. Vodafone Ireland | #TeamOfUs

On Friday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the very latest ahead of Ireland's Pool B showdown with Scotland. We hear from Andy Farrell, John Fogarty, James Lowe and Tadhg Beirne for the Irish perspective, plus Scotland duo Huw Jones and Grant Gilchrist give their side of events. There's renewed optimism about Robbie Henshaw's participation in France, but the All Blacks are sweating on Tyrell Lomax's availability for the knockout stages. Plus, we check in on the England camp as one of their number heads home earlier than planned.

"You're the cat on the date!" Mark talked about session mindset with Hall Blaine, vocal arranging for the Fairfield Four, a Meat Puppets session in Pheonix, how to play the right bass note, why your headphones matter, and how to rock online sessions. Get access to FREE mixing mini-course: https://MixMasterBundle.com My guest today is Mark Prentice, a Grammy-winning Record Producer, studio musician, music director, and hit songwriter. His versatile and exhaustive music industry resume includes recording and performance credits with renowned County Artists as well as various Internationally known Pop, R&B, and Rock-n-Roll Artists, including: Elvis Costello, John Fogarty, Jonathan Cain, Desmond Child, The Fairfield Four, Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett, BJ Thomas, Frankie Miller, Delbert McClinton, Ricky Skaggs, Olivia Newton-John, Amy Grant, Vince Gill, Johnny Cash, Don McLean, Crystal Gayle, Kevin Griffin (Better Than Ezra), Jennifer Nettles, Michael McDonald, Bruce Springsteen, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Hornsby, Felix Cavaliere, The Young Rascals, Charley Pride, Allison Morer, Sam Moore, Billy Preston, Ben E. King, Michelle Wright, Jennifer Hanson, John Oates, Pat Boone, Patti Page, Lady Antebellum, Rodney Atkins, Chuck Wicks, Paulette Carlson, Bruce Cockburn, Holly Williams, Bo Diddley, Mitch Ryder, others. I met Mark in the past couple years through mutual friends who gather to talk about music, life, and what the hell just happened to music and the world recently, and when I was invited to the annual Christmas party and saw how Mark could sit at the piano and play any song just by thinking about how should probably go I knew I was in the company of some serious musical talent. THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS! https://UltimateMixingMasterclass.com https://lewitt.link/rockstars https://www.Spectra1964.com https://MacSales.com/rockstars https://iZotope.com use code ROCK10 to get 10% off any individual plugin https://www.adam-audio.com https://RecordingStudioRockstars.com/Academy  https://www.thetoyboxstudio.com/ Listen to this guest's discography on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Bdoweo1QEdVyVgujuNUEJ?si=918f4c2d24e54c8d If you love the podcast, then please leave a review: https://RSRockstars.com/Review CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE SHOW NOTES AT: https://RSRockstars.com/421

On Monday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you reaction to Ireland's bruising win over the Springboks on Saturday. We hear from scrum coach John Fogarty, plus Gregor Townsend and Scott McLeod give their unique perspectives on the coverage since. There's good news for Munster fans regarding head coach Graham Rowntree. Eddie Jones reacts angrily to stories linking him with a Japan return.And Rassie Erasmus gives his take on Handre Pollard's return to the Springbok team.

Ready to decode the legacy of The Tragically Hip and the enduring impact they've had on Canadian music and culture? Promise us your ears and we'll share an exciting exploration of the band's influence, creativity, and unique place in the hearts of their fans. Today, we're joined by the Emcee of Longslice Presents: Getting Hip to the Hip - An Evening for the Downie Wenjack Fund, Delhi stand-up, Pete Van Dyk. Today he plays the host on his podcast, "Live from the Dutch Hall." And he's invited jD, Pete, & Tim along for the ride. Together we reflect on our personal connections to The Hip, discuss the band's Canadian roots, and consider why their sound may not have resonated as widely beyond Canada's borders.Make sure to get your tickets for Longslice Presents: Getting Hip to the Hip - An Evening for the Downie Wenjack Fund today: https://bit.ly/GHTTHTicketsTranscript0:00:10 - Speaker 2Long Slice Brewery presents Getting Hip to the Hip. 0:00:27 - Speaker 3Hey, it's JD here and I am sans Pete and Tim at the moment, but they'll be joining us in just a few minutes. I am here to set up what is a new series within Getting Hip to the Hip. It's called Getting to Know Your MC And there will be a second installment of this called Getting to Know Your Band, And basically these episodes are designed to allow you to get inside of Long Slice Presents Getting Hip to the Hip an evening for the Downy Wend Jack Fund before that event even occurs. That way, when you buy your tickets and you can buy them at GettingHipToTheHipcom and clicking on the ticket button From there it's easy peasy you just have to show up at the event. So there's that. I would say that Pete van Dijk is a great stand-up comedian and he will be emceeing us. He's also a podcaster, hosting a show called Live from the Dutch Hall, And just recently he had Pete and Tim and myself on as guests And he graciously gave us a copy of the tape. He had it flown in live from Delhi and I'm going to put it up on our feed. It's going to be well. It's going to come up to you in just a second, So why don't I stop Blither Blathering and we'll get to Live from the Dutch Hall with Pete van Dijk and our friends Pete and Tim, as we discuss the podcast on Live from the Dutch Hall. 0:02:41 - Speaker 4Hey, hey, hey, hey. Welcome everybody to the Dutch Hall. We're coming to you live from the Pool Shed in Pine Grove, ontario, for episode 445, believe it or not. 445 times we have done this stupid thing, and this time we have roped two people from different parts of the planet and one person who was from here but had to come back here on a long journey today. That's right, and I'm very happy to have them in. All first timers, all Dutch Hall virgins, and they're here to promote a podcast, which is a really interesting concept, especially for a guy like me from Southern Ontario. The hip is really was really a band that was pivotal, pivotal, pivotal Is that right? That's right. Pivotal to a kid like me. It came up at the right time. They were like hitting it the same time that I was getting in to be in the most awesomeest part of my life, you know, and these guys, two of these fellas have no such experience at all. One of these fellas would have a very similar one, and the idea of the podcast is to let these two guys understand what us two guys feel about this band. And so I entered with these myself. Yet, jamie, yeah, you haven't really now. Oh well, i'll start off by introducing myself. I am the host of the show. In two time You're supposed to say two time, two time. There you go. President's Club Award winner, pete Van Dyke No applause, no applause. And our guest today, the one that's come from Waterford, ontario. He's a. He's a Waterford native, that's right, norfolk County boy. But he's moved to the big city and he's made a life for himself. First time here in the Dutch Hall, ladies and gentlemen, say hello to Jamie, do everybody, jamie do. 0:04:40 - Speaker 3It is great to be back. Great to be back to Norfolk. I mean great to be back in Ontario's garden. Oh yes, Thank you. 0:04:49 - Speaker 4Shout out to us and our guests And you're going to have to help me, jamie, on the last names here, let's try, i will. From San Diego, california, is Tim Lion, lion, everybody, i'll take it Yeah. 0:05:07 - Speaker 5Happy to be here. Thanks for having me. 0:05:10 - Speaker 4Thank you, Tim, And coming from Malaga, Spain. 0:05:14 - Speaker 3Malaga, spain. This is Pete from Spain. He doesn't have a last name. Yes, of course he does Marchica, pete, marchica, everybody. 0:05:22 - Speaker 4Pete Marchica. 0:05:26 - Speaker 1My middle name is is is from Spain. What's your middle? 0:05:29 - Speaker 4name From Spain. Oh, i'm joking, i'm your. You know, actually I have a. I have a nephew and his middle name, his name is this is seriously, his name is Adrian adventure Pitaski And, like it's just so, he could go around his parents name on that So he could tell people my, my adventure is my middle name, right? Wow, i love it. That's my nephew, that's real, that's my nephew, like that's that is cool. Like you want to get named. It's like your parents just made you James Bond, yeah Right. Like it is major, coolest. No, this kid's got to live up to that middle name. He's got to live life, yeah Right, yeah, hopefully he's not trepidatious of everything, yeah. 0:06:10 - Speaker 3What if he's just like an accountant, You know? 0:06:14 - Speaker 4it'll probably be cooking the books. Yeah Yeah, the name like adventure. You know that's a, that's just a gift, that's a gift from your parents, so uh, I think it's a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a. It's a gift, that's a gift from your parents. So, uh, i want, I hope so, yeah, yeah, i hope so, or curse, or curse. Um, i wanted to say the band we're talking about is tragically hip. That's right. The band, uh, that, uh, if you the credit tragic lips, from Kingston, ontario, and for some reason the tragically hip have been a band that have uh made it in Canada. They were enormous in Canada, but as much as we tried to explain them to the rest of the band, we tried to explain them to the rest of the world, the rest of the world just didn't get them. 0:06:57 - Speaker 3No, Would you agree with that, Jamie? I would agree with that. And uh, these two are the avatars for the rest of the world. 0:07:03 - Speaker 4Yeah, And now is there a. Is there a band, uh, either in the United States or in Spain, that you would say would be like a band that is beloved in your country, but the rest of the world doesn't get it, You know. 0:07:21 - Speaker 1Tim, you want to take that one for the US Oh tough one, Yeah that is a tough one for US actually. 0:07:26 - Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, i have no idea, because I feel like if you break, i'm going to have to do some homework. 0:07:31 - Speaker 3I feel like if you break in the US, part of that breaking in the US is breaking internationally. 0:07:37 - Speaker 4Yeah, like the rest of the world will like what you guys like. Yeah, there's not much that you guys like, unless there's some guy like you know, like what's the name of that fella? He's, like you know, proud to be an American, or like the, or like one of those country guys who were really like patriotic and over the top. That might be a little bit. That's the country singer. 0:08:00 - Speaker 3What's his? 0:08:00 - Speaker 4name. That might be too much for like people outside the States. 0:08:04 - Speaker 1Yeah, that's true. No, I know what you're saying. 0:08:07 - Speaker 4You know what's the guy's name The big? Yeah, i know who you mean. See, that's me. We're from Canada. We don't know the guy's name? Danim Vast. Yeah, we got tons of them. You know how? about Spain? 0:08:22 - Speaker 1You know there's a band here called Los Planetes, which translates to the planets, if you will, and you know they're extremely popular. I mean they've got like there's a couple of the members have spinoff bands. I mean you can't you can't go to any corner of this country and not know somebody who knows Los Planetes. So they're like sort of as an indie rock band, sort of like I guess you'd say the hip did. But but yeah, dude, outside of if you mentioned Los Planetes outside of Spain, nobody knows what they're talking about. 0:08:54 - Speaker 3Yeah, i've never heard of them, yeah. 0:08:56 - Speaker 4I know that the tragically hip themselves were friends with the band the real statics out of England because they had the same issue as them. They were huge in England but the rest of the world Real statics are from the town. No, not real statics, stereophonics They say those bands were on. Oh, it was about to correct. Yes, i apologize. The real stacks actually open for the hip, yeah, but the stereophonics, and so they'd always, if they came out with an album, the hip would give an album to the stereophonics, stereophonics would give an album to the hips when they came out with a new one, because they had this mutual like kind of like, you know, like sister cities and stuff like that. 0:09:36 - Speaker 3It was like the same thing, but like sister bands, you know, i feel like the last time stereophonics played in Toronto it was post score dying and they played a hip song. Yeah, that would make a huge sense And I didn't. But I didn't know that there was that connection. 0:09:47 - Speaker 4I just thought they were just doing a tribute to oh no, they were big fans of it, like big fans of each other, and they both had the same thing. They could never break in the States and they were like huge in their own countries And even in Canada the stereophonics didn't really make too much of a splash. I just remember that having a stay song. Yeah, i like that band actually. Yeah. 0:10:07 - Speaker 5I can only think of bands from the U S that have done well outside the U S. You know like bigger tours outside the U S, but there are a ton. 0:10:16 - Speaker 1There are a ton of like Canadian bands that like have had broken through to me, for Christ's sake. You got Neil Young, you've got the Lannis, you've got Brian Adams, right, nickelback, you know. 0:10:29 - Speaker 5Nickelback. Yeah, that one band Rush. is that what they're called? 0:10:33 - Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, i mean one of the greatest bands of all time. It's a real crowd splitter rush. 0:10:41 - Speaker 3I agree Because. I've never I was never a Rush guy. 0:10:43 - Speaker 4If you don't, if you like Rush, you really like Rush Big time. I think it's like Bruce Springsteen. You know, bruce Springsteen, the guys that like Bruce, they love Bruce, Like they really like Oh my gosh. 0:10:54 - Speaker 5Yeah, we have a good friend who follows Bruce and I just Yeah, they're like, they're you and Target on that. God bless Michelle. 0:11:02 - Speaker 4Yeah, and my cousin's husband is like that, he's traveled all around to see Bruce, eh, and he knows him Like it. Just it means so much to him. Man, i envy that about him, but I just don't get it. Yeah, it just doesn't. 0:11:18 - Speaker 3I like Springsteen, but I'm not. I wouldn't do a follow along, or Yeah. 0:11:23 - Speaker 4You're in camp too, like either you love him or you're like oh, he's the boss, you know he's good. 0:11:29 - Speaker 5Yeah, i like a couple, you know I like it enough It's fine, there's lots of bands I would go see perform live if I got a free ticket. 0:11:38 - Speaker 1Right, yeah, i got free tickets to see Springsteen. That's the only reason I saw him. But back in the day I think we told this on the pod or I may have mentioned it on the pod when we did some, when we recorded, but back in the day, when I started playing in bands, like 25 years ago, you were, if you were a Rush fan, you were closeted. Like and I'm not even like joking Like in the US like if you liked Rush and you had Rush records, you were closeted. You didn't talk about it. I remember I was playing in a band with a guy named Jason Hirsch and he was our bass player and we played in a band for like seven or eight months and then one day it went over his house and it was like I found a bunch of porno mags in his corner. Like he's like, yeah, dude, i like Rush, and like the same was for Zappa, and I was like, dude, it's cool man, this is a safe space. 0:12:30 - Speaker 4I have a huge kit set up in the closet. I drummed a new apparel. That's funny man, but it was kind of that. There was like you just didn't know if you're, because they split the room, you either love it, like people hated Rush, or they loved Rush. You know, even in Canada, even in Canada, they're hardcore. I don't get it, you know. I think some It might be musicians though too, because like Rush, right, because they're technically Yeah, i mean because you just. 0:13:01 - Speaker 1The work of like the musicianship is like the fact that Geddy Lee can play His multi-instrumentalist on stage and singing is fucking stupid, yeah, like you know It's like Radiohead too. 0:13:16 - Speaker 4Right Like Radiohead, like Yeah, if the musicians get them more than the non-musicians, would you say that's true. 0:13:26 - Speaker 5I don't think so. I think Rush had a special kind of nerd dump. You know, like, if you ever knew, like a group of kids that played D&D, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you know, like I don't know, rush has their own collective. Like, i have lots of friends who are radiohead fans and many of whom are not. 0:13:44 - Speaker 1We now ostracized the Rush crowd from Pete's podcast and now ostracized the D&D. 0:13:55 - Speaker 4I don't know. 0:13:57 - Speaker 5I saw D&D. friends, we're all good with each other. 0:14:01 - Speaker 4I've never played before. Have you done that Never? 0:14:05 - Speaker 5I won't touch a 12-side. I tried, like, when it became a thing, i tried with some kids in my neighborhood and I sat down with them and I was like are we going to drink some wine? Or you know, and that was the seventh grade Like it just felt like we were supposed to be naked or I don't know. It was just weird. Yeah, like It was really weird. I was like how far can we take role play right now? 0:14:26 - Speaker 4Yeah, you were an advanced. 0:14:27 - Speaker 5There's too much of a tease for me. 0:14:29 - Speaker 4No, i was like you were saying Dungeons Dragons makes a seemed a little like they was going to get a role. Did people wear costumes for that stuff? 0:14:37 - Speaker 5Well, no, i just felt like it was this level of intellectualism, you know, like that wasn't it being experiencing games and rush was kind of the same way, and maybe, you know, maybe the hip was too smart for the US, maybe it might be. 0:14:51 - Speaker 4It might be like there's, but I don't know how smart it was. It was like there's a. It's an interesting thing because I've only because of this podcast started. You know he's kind of reflect on you know I was a hip like, i am a hip fan and it, but I don't know if I'm associating it is just because they were around through a good part of my life. You know what I mean. Yeah, like I was young and having a good time and every show I went to or I could see them a lot, you know. So they were at a lot of like festivals and concerts that I would get a chance to go to. 0:15:25 - Speaker 3They were always on the bar, like whatever bar you go to, they were playing hip, you know yeah. 0:15:30 - Speaker 1They were like the LA. They were like Canada's version of X. If you live in LA, right, sure They were. They were still playing Cause like yeah, right, i know, but actually you could like go to any club on a given night in the 80s and 90s and that band was playing, and they're still playing. 0:15:51 - Speaker 4Yeah, they're still playing, and then I never seen a. The other thing that I think was was interesting about the hip, when you'd see them live, is like I've seen a lot of bands that would jam, you know, like they would like jam out a song, so it didn't sound like a radio version of it, like, but the hips the only one I can really say that vocalist was doing it too Like where the vocalist was jamming vocals, you know, and so you'd go to see them at a show and he'd be like gibberishing up there, you know, while they were like jamming something else out in the middle of a song, and then you'd go see the next tour and it would actually be a song that was on that album, you know, and like, do you remember seeing that too? Absolutely, yeah, i was called it breadcrumbs, right, like it was like little breadcrumbs and you're like that's going to be something like. I remember nautical disaster before it was nautical disaster, right, and then like, so, like I thought that was kind of cool, cause you kind of I don't remember another band that kind of let you in on the what's to come, you know, like, and and and let you watch the creative process, like the writing process, on stage, you know as obvious. 0:17:05 - Speaker 5Maybe the, maybe the doors, yeah, yeah, that's what's good. Jim Morrison did a fair amount of that, but there's not many. I mean, that was like lead singers riffing Yeah, there's not. Not many people are able to do that at all, is this? 0:17:19 - Speaker 4douchey. It really like it has the potential to go a little bit yourself in grandizing. You know, like, where it's like. Look at me, i'm an intellectual and you know even Jim Morrison and then Gord Downey. They both kind of you know they're like I'm not gonna do that. Their critics could accuse them of that, of being a little bit like you know in their own head or like too impressed by themselves. But I didn't get that impression from either of them but because I liked them. 0:17:47 - Speaker 3Yeah, me too. 0:17:48 - Speaker 4But and I like watching the creativity of it, you know, But doors is a perfect example, because that would be, I would say, the closest which I never got. to see them, So yeah. 0:18:00 - Speaker 1Pete, did you have you? because I don't know how much you dug into the pod, but we you know, one of the things that Tim and I struggle with is that you know, when we did the, when we did the pod, we recorded everything, because everything's recorded up into this point. Pretty much We're just kind of trickling the pods out leading up to the finale. But like a lot of folks, like you know, we had a week to digest the record and then it was week over week over week over week And, like so many people, like dude had fucking a year or two years to like and it had their whole lives to get to know this band. I think it's, you know, i'm not gonna we'll smoke up my own ass, but maybe I'll hold a little Tim's ass. But we, you know, i think it's, you know, i think it's, you know it's a little bit of a Tim's ass, but we, you know, i'm. I think it's pretty impressive because at this point, now that we're kind of all done, i fucking love this band. I mean, i've gone back and listened to the records we weren't super keen on and they're just dude, they're. I don't know what American rock fans were fucking thinking back in the day when this band was like pinky. 0:19:14 - Speaker 5Is that why? Yeah, i really think that a big part of why they didn't quote make it in the US, which they did to a degree, they just weren't selling out stadiums. But I think a big part of it had to do must have had to have been because of ill attempted marketing. Like, like, when bands go on tour, there are people behind the scenes that are doing promotions in every city. They're hanging posters, they're giving away tickets, they're talking about on the radio all of these things. You know everybody in LA who does this for a living And I talked to him briefly about it and he said marketing probably was marketing, i and can't. And I'm like, oh, you know, and the labels, when the hip was on with labels who weren't promoting them in the US, like, oh, they're gonna play in these six epicenter cities, we're gonna sell out them, sell out them more, maybe if all the Canadians show up, sure, that was, that was what happened. But man, if they were promoted more in a real way, like other bands on their US labels which I can't remember right now, i think they would have totally hit it. When they were on in my house the other day I said to my wife if this was playing in 1992, i would have been totally into it, cause we were talking about bands we were into in 1992. And some of them, like right now, i might have thought they were pretty good back then, but some of them right now I absolutely do not listen to. But if I would have, heard the hip in 1992, I would definitely be going back to albums right now, I believe. 0:20:48 - Speaker 4Yeah, it's interesting, that's really all. but with both what you guys said, it's really interesting cause I it's not what I expected, like number one, you've just let my audience know you've been, you've been through the entire catalog of the hip, which, when you said it takes you time to process a tragically hip album, i mean I remember like in real time, when these things came out and we would like line up at sunrise at midnight to get the new road apples or whatever you know. And but each album like road apples compared up to here and day for night compared to road apples, or like, or fully, completely, you know they were. they were as soon as you put in the new album you were like, ah, like this is, this isn't as good as the last stuff, and then you'd listen to it like a hundred times and then it would become your favorite album. you know, like totally. And I find Jack White like I'm a huge Jack White fan and it's the same thing with his stuff, cause he's pushing himself and he's growing, you know, and then it kind of takes you a bit to get your head around what he's trying to do And then after a while you start digging it, you know. That's a good example And I think that's. That's the kind of like I. You never liked the hip album when you first got it. You always liked it a couple of weeks later. You know, Like Is it. 0:22:15 - Speaker 5Sorry, is that true? Is that true for you, jamie? Were there any albums you just were like just had on repeat, psyched, go, go, go, go listen to it a hundred times a week. 0:22:26 - Speaker 3I was in love with like from the moment I heard it Like. So There you go, but and fully, completely too Trouble at the hen house. The first time I heard it I was like I'm not sure about this, but you're right, it was, it was, it was different, they were, they were, you're right, They, they were growing and I was stuck behind. Yeah, yeah, now that's like my favorite record. 0:22:46 - Speaker 4Yeah, yeah. 0:22:48 - Speaker 3Like like hands down. 0:22:50 - Speaker 4Yeah, and then, like I, yeah, cause yeah up to here was the only one I would say that I was like I'm in, this is everything's great. And then the only thing is that a lot of songs kind of sounded similar maybe, but but but then everything I was comparing everything up to here And then, and that's just. And then I just wasn't like like you said, i just wasn't developing like the. That's why it takes me a bit just to catch up, cause I'm slow, i'm just. You know, you're just a consumer, you're being fed, fed shit, you only know what you know And then get something new and takes you a bit. 0:23:28 - Speaker 1But you also never know how long it's going to take. I had a. I had a record I won't need to mention cause it's just not even important, but the record from a band that I really liked And when they're it took seven years. Seven years. It came out in 2007 and it wasn't until 2014 when I picked it up again And I literally thought this was the shittiest record I had ever heard. And I picked it up again and it turns out being my favorite record And it was like like it takes time, but for for what, tim and I? the gauntlet that fucking JD's put us through the last seven months, like how many? 0:24:05 - Speaker 3albums There's 14, 14 hours, 14 or 15. Yeah wow. 0:24:11 - Speaker 4And then, uh, yeah, that's crazy, man, that's crazy. So the what was I thinking? Oh, you're to um, you know, david Bowie's black star, that album, last album, yeah, yeah, same thing. I was like you know, i wanted Ziggy Stardust and I got black star. I was upset. And then, uh, you listen to it and you're like this is the greatest thing he's ever done. This is man. That album is incredible. Oh, yeah, and uh, yeah. And then the more you know the fact that he, uh, he doesn't, he, he leaves on an open note Like he doesn't, uh, he doesn't end on the top, on the home note, the number one, the one he doesn't end on, the one you know that's a and he knows he's going to die. 0:24:53 - Speaker 1You know, that's crazy, That album it's funny because I remember when I bought that album right when it came out, right after he died, because he died a couple of days before my birthday, because he died a few days after his birthday, which is January 8th Mine's a 16th and I bought it and I just didn't. I wanted to get it, i couldn't. And then a friend, when I moved back to Spain, explained to me that it was a lot of the songs are built on flamenco chords, spanish flamenco chords, and I was like get the fuck out of here. And then I we listened to it together and explained it to me And I was like, because a drummer of our band? and I was like, oh, that makes sense. And then the whole record made sense to me. 0:25:33 - Speaker 4It took years, isn't that great. That's a beautiful thing about music, our art in general. You know like, no matter what kind of the art, the comedy is the same way you can work your whole life. You're never going to know all the risks and all about it You're never going to. It's just so infinite in the amount. So like, that's what I like about it, about it, you know, like you can, you're never going to feel like you've got all the answers you know, when you find art, when you find art like that, that's timeless, that's, that's, that's the best stuff I think you know. 0:26:04 - Speaker 5Yeah, that's right. Yeah, something you can put on, i mean, just at any point in time. It's just that's, that's. Those are the keepers. Yeah, i don't know if we'll feel the same way. Pete, have you gone back to any any? Bob Rock produced albums. 0:26:18 - Speaker 1You know it's funny. I haven't yet, tim, but I really am looking forward to it because I think it's going to happen. I think eventually all end up like sending a letter Is Bob Rock still alive? 0:26:28 - Speaker 5Yes, oh, my gosh Yeah. 0:26:30 - Speaker 1Okay, then I'll send him like an apology letter and like be like Bob, i'm sorry, cause there are people that love. 0:26:36 - Speaker 3We are the same now And when it came out it was pretty universally derided. And there are people that absolutely adore that record now And I'm I'm one of them. Like, like, i really did not like that record the first time I heard it. Like I remember meeting Greg in the grocery store We were doing fully and completely at the time And I was like, so I did some pre listening and uh, wow, every song sounds the same. It's all droney, it's you know. And now I think, like depression suite is amazing. I love morning moon, um, queen of the Furrows is like weird and out there. But I but I dig it, but it's not, it's not. It still doesn't feel quite like a hip record because there's no Lang Lawn and St Clair backup vocals. You know it's, it's, it's just different. 0:27:24 - Speaker 4Yeah, do you hear that? Uh, i think it was at the Gino's or something. Uh, after CORE Downey died, uh, muse filled in and they did um, it's a, she did a cut. No, it's not, it's not. I said the wrong name FIEST, fiest. Yeah, fiest did, uh, did the vocals and it was for it's. Uh, it's a good life if you don't weaken. Yeah, it's a good life if you don't weaken and uh and. But like when the background vocals kicked in and then it was like, then you're like Oh, this is the hip. Yeah, cause before it was just a cover, you know. And then, as soon as you heard St Clair's backing, it was like Oh man, this is, this is cool, you know, yeah, yeah. 0:28:07 - Speaker 5Um, yeah, i was. I was asking Pete, because this morning when Amy was making coffee, I was like coffee girl. It just happened. So, bob, bob is coming in. Hey, knock on the door. 0:28:23 - Speaker 4Hey, i was hoping, uh, we, so this has been. This is really cool. If you guys, uh, who are listening to this show, if you want to check out this podcast and see how these two people were converted to the ways of the tragically hip um, uh, how can they find the show, jamie? 0:28:39 - Speaker 3go to getting hip to the hipcom and, uh, you can go anywhere that you find your podcasts you'll get getting hip to the hip And it is. 0:28:49 - Speaker 4It's going to all uh, culminate with a grand finale live show in Toronto on September 1st. Yes, sir, and people can get tickets for the show Same place. 0:29:00 - Speaker 3Getting hip to the hipcom and, uh, click on tickets and, uh, you know, uh, we'll get a great host for that evening. 0:29:08 - Speaker 4Well, thank you. Yeah, i'll be hosted by myself and uh, we have uh the finale of the podcast and you have uh entertaining the audience of uh. was it 50 mission cap or? 50 mission 50 mission, which is a hip cover band. They'll be playing, and where is it? 0:29:25 - Speaker 3It's at the rec room in Toronto on Bremner, right across from the sky dome. 0:29:29 - Speaker 4Oh sweet, it's going to be super fun. So please check us out And, uh, we will be running a uh draw here at the Dutch hall for a listener to get a free uh free ticket to the event. How about? 0:29:40 - Speaker 1a pair A pair. 0:29:41 - Speaker 4You can bring a friend. Thank you, that's nice, yeah, and I can even give you a ride if you want, if you're local. So we got all those things working for us, and there'll be details on that at the end of the show, but I don't want to keep these guys any longer doing business. Um does. 0:29:59 - Speaker 1This is the sky down where the blue jays play. Yeah, Oh fuck, that'd be cool. They're playing a game that they're not, they're out of town. 0:30:08 - Speaker 3Are we taking a game? for sure, yeah, Hey, pete. 0:30:12 - Speaker 1Pete, i've been wanting to tell you a joke, man Come tell you a joke, yeah, please do, just to turn After he's done. 0:30:20 - Speaker 5Then, pete, you play guitar to Pete and see if you guys can trade. 0:30:25 - Speaker 4Yeah, you have to do that. Okay, I'll trade your talents. I know two chords. 0:30:30 - Speaker 1So so you know Creedence, right. You know Creed's Clearwater, right. Yeah, yeah, ccr yeah. Yeah, so do you know what the difference between John Fogarty and Marvin Gaye is? 0:30:43 - Speaker 4No, I don't. 0:30:45 - Speaker 1So Marvin Gaye heard it through the grapevine, but John Fogarty played it through the grapevine. Yeah right, Tim, just snickered at that one. It's one of my all-time favorites Whoa man, don't tell that at the finale. Pete, let it sit there. 0:31:09 - Speaker 4Only if I'm really stuck I'm going to pull that one out of the toolbox. You're not going to speak to people like this. No, guys, i want to thank you for spending this time with me and getting to, for taking the time to get to know me and my audience. I really am excited about the podcast And I think it's going to be interesting. Yeah, i hope so. You guys got you guys did kind of shit on them a little bit right. Oh, yeah, they hold back. Yeah, but I think it is interesting to know that even some of the opinions that you held not so long ago may have already changed by the time the finale is going to be For sure. Yeah, Totally have. Yeah, yeah, that's cool, man, and I think that's kind of a testament to why I think they're worthy enough to still be concentrating on. You know is because this shit can happen. This stuff can really happen where people can be turned on to something new and it's new to them. So who cares if Gord's dead? you know, like these guys, never. You know, if you never heard it, like my daughter's. A perfect example Her and the bass player in her band. The bass player in her band said did you hear. Remember when the hip came out with those new tracks? Yeah, and they were all like 90s era sounding. 0:32:27 - Speaker 3They were like road apples. 0:32:28 - Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, they were great, you know, and my daughter's friend brought that to me and they're like, have you heard this? And then they started getting into it and it was brand new to them. Oh, that's hilarious, and so like to watch my kids get into it. What I was into is really a kick. So like, and then like, i think that this is a great example of it. And one time I went fishing in BC and the guy was Australian. That was like running our tour And I asked him about the question what in your country is the band that you guys would love and nobody else gets? Do they say midnight oil? He did say midnight oil And I go well, we all know midnight oil. You know, like beds are burning. And he goes like fuck that song. You know, like you guys don't know midnight oil. If you think it's beds are burning, look into their back catalog when they're a punk band, you know. And then, and it was way different, really Way different, and nothing like anything that made them popular, but it's so, it's. maybe there's bands like this everywhere. You know you can. I never knew about like all all that old good soul music because it never played on any radios that I got to listen to. You know, like I just found out about Al Green like five years ago, like that breaks my heart. You know where was Al Green my whole life? But so there is a lot of good stuff out there And I think this podcast kind of shines a light on that. So I think it was going to be, while we're checking out, so getting hip to the hit, check it out. Everybody And Tim, thank you very much for, for, for the, for doing this for me. 0:34:03 - Speaker 5Yeah, thanks, pete. 0:34:04 - Speaker 1Thanks Pete. Thanks JD, Good to see you guys? 0:34:07 - Speaker 4Good to see you guys. Yeah, and we will see you on September 1st Sounds great. See you September 1st, can't wait. All right, take care, guys. Okay, this show would be nothing without our sponsors at CleanFlow. If you'd like to support them, go to cleanflowcom That's K L, e, e, n, f L O dot com and check out all the great products. Lube up your life with clean flow. And if you'd like to support our show, go to patreoncom. slash dutch hall And you can join our queen, jen Husko, and being a part of dutch hall royalty. And if you're a business that's looking at any sponsorship opportunities, you can also look on Patreon and look at options there. And every time someone on our show gets a little tight ass about what we're putting out on social media, i will put that on Patreon. 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I think you can give us some feedback at the dutchhall gmocom or we are at the tall on Instagram. That is it for sponsors, jamie. That is it for sponsors. I promise that's everything. And, of course, you got to keep getting hip to the hip. What You got to keep the lights on. I keep the lights on exactly getting hip to the hip and the go get some tickets to the grand finale, the rec room in Toronto on September 1st. Jamie, thanks again for coming in. Thank you very much. It's been really nice And, as I said, you, i've been watching you promote this thing, i've been watching you put it together and the way that you have curated it, the way that you've cared for it and the way that you've, like, put thoughtful effort into every step of it. It shows through This is being done at a high level, and I'm really proud of the effort you put in. So keep it up, and I'm going to continue to support everything you do, cause I'm real happy to know a guy like you. 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Ready to decode the legacy of The Tragically Hip and the enduring impact they've had on Canadian music and culture? Promise us your ears and we'll share an exciting exploration of the band's influence, creativity, and unique place in the hearts of their fans. Today, we're joined by the Emcee of Longslice Presents: Getting Hip to the Hip - An Evening for the Downie Wenjack Fund, Delhi stand-up, Pete Van Dyk. Today he plays the host on his podcast, "Live from the Dutch Hall." And he's invited jD, Pete, & Tim along for the ride. Together we reflect on our personal connections to The Hip, discuss the band's Canadian roots, and consider why their sound may not have resonated as widely beyond Canada's borders.Make sure to get your tickets for Longslice Presents: Getting Hip to the Hip - An Evening for the Downie Wenjack Fund today: https://bit.ly/GHTTHTicketsTranscript0:00:10 - Speaker 2Long Slice Brewery presents Getting Hip to the Hip. 0:00:27 - Speaker 3Hey, it's JD here and I am sans Pete and Tim at the moment, but they'll be joining us in just a few minutes. I am here to set up what is a new series within Getting Hip to the Hip. It's called Getting to Know Your MC And there will be a second installment of this called Getting to Know Your Band, And basically these episodes are designed to allow you to get inside of Long Slice Presents Getting Hip to the Hip an evening for the Downy Wend Jack Fund before that event even occurs. That way, when you buy your tickets and you can buy them at GettingHipToTheHipcom and clicking on the ticket button From there it's easy peasy you just have to show up at the event. So there's that. I would say that Pete van Dijk is a great stand-up comedian and he will be emceeing us. He's also a podcaster, hosting a show called Live from the Dutch Hall, And just recently he had Pete and Tim and myself on as guests And he graciously gave us a copy of the tape. He had it flown in live from Delhi and I'm going to put it up on our feed. It's going to be well. It's going to come up to you in just a second, So why don't I stop Blither Blathering and we'll get to Live from the Dutch Hall with Pete van Dijk and our friends Pete and Tim, as we discuss the podcast on Live from the Dutch Hall. 0:02:41 - Speaker 4Hey, hey, hey, hey. Welcome everybody to the Dutch Hall. We're coming to you live from the Pool Shed in Pine Grove, ontario, for episode 445, believe it or not. 445 times we have done this stupid thing, and this time we have roped two people from different parts of the planet and one person who was from here but had to come back here on a long journey today. That's right, and I'm very happy to have them in. All first timers, all Dutch Hall virgins, and they're here to promote a podcast, which is a really interesting concept, especially for a guy like me from Southern Ontario. The hip is really was really a band that was pivotal, pivotal, pivotal Is that right? That's right. Pivotal to a kid like me. It came up at the right time. They were like hitting it the same time that I was getting in to be in the most awesomeest part of my life, you know, and these guys, two of these fellas have no such experience at all. One of these fellas would have a very similar one, and the idea of the podcast is to let these two guys understand what us two guys feel about this band. And so I entered with these myself. Yet, jamie, yeah, you haven't really now. Oh well, i'll start off by introducing myself. I am the host of the show. In two time You're supposed to say two time, two time. There you go. President's Club Award winner, pete Van Dyke No applause, no applause. And our guest today, the one that's come from Waterford, ontario. He's a. He's a Waterford native, that's right, norfolk County boy. But he's moved to the big city and he's made a life for himself. First time here in the Dutch Hall, ladies and gentlemen, say hello to Jamie, do everybody, jamie do. 0:04:40 - Speaker 3It is great to be back. Great to be back to Norfolk. I mean great to be back in Ontario's garden. Oh yes, Thank you. 0:04:49 - Speaker 4Shout out to us and our guests And you're going to have to help me, jamie, on the last names here, let's try, i will. From San Diego, california, is Tim Lion, lion, everybody, i'll take it Yeah. 0:05:07 - Speaker 5Happy to be here. Thanks for having me. 0:05:10 - Speaker 4Thank you, Tim, And coming from Malaga, Spain. 0:05:14 - Speaker 3Malaga, spain. This is Pete from Spain. He doesn't have a last name. Yes, of course he does Marchica, pete, marchica, everybody. 0:05:22 - Speaker 4Pete Marchica. 0:05:26 - Speaker 1My middle name is is is from Spain. What's your middle? 0:05:29 - Speaker 4name From Spain. Oh, i'm joking, i'm your. You know, actually I have a. I have a nephew and his middle name, his name is this is seriously, his name is Adrian adventure Pitaski And, like it's just so, he could go around his parents name on that So he could tell people my, my adventure is my middle name, right? Wow, i love it. That's my nephew, that's real, that's my nephew, like that's that is cool. Like you want to get named. It's like your parents just made you James Bond, yeah Right. Like it is major, coolest. No, this kid's got to live up to that middle name. He's got to live life, yeah Right, yeah, hopefully he's not trepidatious of everything, yeah. 0:06:10 - Speaker 3What if he's just like an accountant, You know? 0:06:14 - Speaker 4it'll probably be cooking the books. Yeah Yeah, the name like adventure. You know that's a, that's just a gift, that's a gift from your parents, so uh, I think it's a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a. It's a gift, that's a gift from your parents. So, uh, i want, I hope so, yeah, yeah, i hope so, or curse, or curse. Um, i wanted to say the band we're talking about is tragically hip. That's right. The band, uh, that, uh, if you the credit tragic lips, from Kingston, ontario, and for some reason the tragically hip have been a band that have uh made it in Canada. They were enormous in Canada, but as much as we tried to explain them to the rest of the band, we tried to explain them to the rest of the world, the rest of the world just didn't get them. 0:06:57 - Speaker 3No, Would you agree with that, Jamie? I would agree with that. And uh, these two are the avatars for the rest of the world. 0:07:03 - Speaker 4Yeah, And now is there a. Is there a band, uh, either in the United States or in Spain, that you would say would be like a band that is beloved in your country, but the rest of the world doesn't get it, You know. 0:07:21 - Speaker 1Tim, you want to take that one for the US Oh tough one, Yeah that is a tough one for US actually. 0:07:26 - Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, i have no idea, because I feel like if you break, i'm going to have to do some homework. 0:07:31 - Speaker 3I feel like if you break in the US, part of that breaking in the US is breaking internationally. 0:07:37 - Speaker 4Yeah, like the rest of the world will like what you guys like. Yeah, there's not much that you guys like, unless there's some guy like you know, like what's the name of that fella? He's, like you know, proud to be an American, or like the, or like one of those country guys who were really like patriotic and over the top. That might be a little bit. That's the country singer. 0:08:00 - Speaker 3What's his? 0:08:00 - Speaker 4name. That might be too much for like people outside the States. 0:08:04 - Speaker 1Yeah, that's true. No, I know what you're saying. 0:08:07 - Speaker 4You know what's the guy's name The big? Yeah, i know who you mean. See, that's me. We're from Canada. We don't know the guy's name? Danim Vast. Yeah, we got tons of them. You know how? about Spain? 0:08:22 - Speaker 1You know there's a band here called Los Planetes, which translates to the planets, if you will, and you know they're extremely popular. I mean they've got like there's a couple of the members have spinoff bands. I mean you can't you can't go to any corner of this country and not know somebody who knows Los Planetes. So they're like sort of as an indie rock band, sort of like I guess you'd say the hip did. But but yeah, dude, outside of if you mentioned Los Planetes outside of Spain, nobody knows what they're talking about. 0:08:54 - Speaker 3Yeah, i've never heard of them, yeah. 0:08:56 - Speaker 4I know that the tragically hip themselves were friends with the band the real statics out of England because they had the same issue as them. They were huge in England but the rest of the world Real statics are from the town. No, not real statics, stereophonics They say those bands were on. Oh, it was about to correct. Yes, i apologize. The real stacks actually open for the hip, yeah, but the stereophonics, and so they'd always, if they came out with an album, the hip would give an album to the stereophonics, stereophonics would give an album to the hips when they came out with a new one, because they had this mutual like kind of like, you know, like sister cities and stuff like that. 0:09:36 - Speaker 3It was like the same thing, but like sister bands, you know, i feel like the last time stereophonics played in Toronto it was post score dying and they played a hip song. Yeah, that would make a huge sense And I didn't. But I didn't know that there was that connection. 0:09:47 - Speaker 4I just thought they were just doing a tribute to oh no, they were big fans of it, like big fans of each other, and they both had the same thing. They could never break in the States and they were like huge in their own countries And even in Canada the stereophonics didn't really make too much of a splash. I just remember that having a stay song. Yeah, i like that band actually. Yeah. 0:10:07 - Speaker 5I can only think of bands from the U S that have done well outside the U S. You know like bigger tours outside the U S, but there are a ton. 0:10:16 - Speaker 1There are a ton of like Canadian bands that like have had broken through to me, for Christ's sake. You got Neil Young, you've got the Lannis, you've got Brian Adams, right, nickelback, you know. 0:10:29 - Speaker 5Nickelback. Yeah, that one band Rush. is that what they're called? 0:10:33 - Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, i mean one of the greatest bands of all time. It's a real crowd splitter rush. 0:10:41 - Speaker 3I agree Because. I've never I was never a Rush guy. 0:10:43 - Speaker 4If you don't, if you like Rush, you really like Rush Big time. I think it's like Bruce Springsteen. You know, bruce Springsteen, the guys that like Bruce, they love Bruce, Like they really like Oh my gosh. 0:10:54 - Speaker 5Yeah, we have a good friend who follows Bruce and I just Yeah, they're like, they're you and Target on that. God bless Michelle. 0:11:02 - Speaker 4Yeah, and my cousin's husband is like that, he's traveled all around to see Bruce, eh, and he knows him Like it. Just it means so much to him. Man, i envy that about him, but I just don't get it. Yeah, it just doesn't. 0:11:18 - Speaker 3I like Springsteen, but I'm not. I wouldn't do a follow along, or Yeah. 0:11:23 - Speaker 4You're in camp too, like either you love him or you're like oh, he's the boss, you know he's good. 0:11:29 - Speaker 5Yeah, i like a couple, you know I like it enough It's fine, there's lots of bands I would go see perform live if I got a free ticket. 0:11:38 - Speaker 1Right, yeah, i got free tickets to see Springsteen. That's the only reason I saw him. But back in the day I think we told this on the pod or I may have mentioned it on the pod when we did some, when we recorded, but back in the day, when I started playing in bands, like 25 years ago, you were, if you were a Rush fan, you were closeted. Like and I'm not even like joking Like in the US like if you liked Rush and you had Rush records, you were closeted. You didn't talk about it. I remember I was playing in a band with a guy named Jason Hirsch and he was our bass player and we played in a band for like seven or eight months and then one day it went over his house and it was like I found a bunch of porno mags in his corner. Like he's like, yeah, dude, i like Rush, and like the same was for Zappa, and I was like, dude, it's cool man, this is a safe space. 0:12:30 - Speaker 4I have a huge kit set up in the closet. I drummed a new apparel. That's funny man, but it was kind of that. There was like you just didn't know if you're, because they split the room, you either love it, like people hated Rush, or they loved Rush. You know, even in Canada, even in Canada, they're hardcore. I don't get it, you know. I think some It might be musicians though too, because like Rush, right, because they're technically Yeah, i mean because you just. 0:13:01 - Speaker 1The work of like the musicianship is like the fact that Geddy Lee can play His multi-instrumentalist on stage and singing is fucking stupid, yeah, like you know It's like Radiohead too. 0:13:16 - Speaker 4Right Like Radiohead, like Yeah, if the musicians get them more than the non-musicians, would you say that's true. 0:13:26 - Speaker 5I don't think so. I think Rush had a special kind of nerd dump. You know, like, if you ever knew, like a group of kids that played D&D, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you know, like I don't know, rush has their own collective. Like, i have lots of friends who are radiohead fans and many of whom are not. 0:13:44 - Speaker 1We now ostracized the Rush crowd from Pete's podcast and now ostracized the D&D. 0:13:55 - Speaker 4I don't know. 0:13:57 - Speaker 5I saw D&D. friends, we're all good with each other. 0:14:01 - Speaker 4I've never played before. Have you done that Never? 0:14:05 - Speaker 5I won't touch a 12-side. I tried, like, when it became a thing, i tried with some kids in my neighborhood and I sat down with them and I was like are we going to drink some wine? Or you know, and that was the seventh grade Like it just felt like we were supposed to be naked or I don't know. It was just weird. Yeah, like It was really weird. I was like how far can we take role play right now? 0:14:26 - Speaker 4Yeah, you were an advanced. 0:14:27 - Speaker 5There's too much of a tease for me. 0:14:29 - Speaker 4No, i was like you were saying Dungeons Dragons makes a seemed a little like they was going to get a role. Did people wear costumes for that stuff? 0:14:37 - Speaker 5Well, no, i just felt like it was this level of intellectualism, you know, like that wasn't it being experiencing games and rush was kind of the same way, and maybe, you know, maybe the hip was too smart for the US, maybe it might be. 0:14:51 - Speaker 4It might be like there's, but I don't know how smart it was. It was like there's a. It's an interesting thing because I've only because of this podcast started. You know he's kind of reflect on you know I was a hip like, i am a hip fan and it, but I don't know if I'm associating it is just because they were around through a good part of my life. You know what I mean. Yeah, like I was young and having a good time and every show I went to or I could see them a lot, you know. So they were at a lot of like festivals and concerts that I would get a chance to go to. 0:15:25 - Speaker 3They were always on the bar, like whatever bar you go to, they were playing hip, you know yeah. 0:15:30 - Speaker 1They were like the LA. They were like Canada's version of X. If you live in LA, right, sure They were. They were still playing Cause like yeah, right, i know, but actually you could like go to any club on a given night in the 80s and 90s and that band was playing, and they're still playing. 0:15:51 - Speaker 4Yeah, they're still playing, and then I never seen a. The other thing that I think was was interesting about the hip, when you'd see them live, is like I've seen a lot of bands that would jam, you know, like they would like jam out a song, so it didn't sound like a radio version of it, like, but the hips the only one I can really say that vocalist was doing it too Like where the vocalist was jamming vocals, you know, and so you'd go to see them at a show and he'd be like gibberishing up there, you know, while they were like jamming something else out in the middle of a song, and then you'd go see the next tour and it would actually be a song that was on that album, you know, and like, do you remember seeing that too? Absolutely, yeah, i was called it breadcrumbs, right, like it was like little breadcrumbs and you're like that's going to be something like. I remember nautical disaster before it was nautical disaster, right, and then like, so, like I thought that was kind of cool, cause you kind of I don't remember another band that kind of let you in on the what's to come, you know, like, and and and let you watch the creative process, like the writing process, on stage, you know as obvious. 0:17:05 - Speaker 5Maybe the, maybe the doors, yeah, yeah, that's what's good. Jim Morrison did a fair amount of that, but there's not many. I mean, that was like lead singers riffing Yeah, there's not. Not many people are able to do that at all, is this? 0:17:19 - Speaker 4douchey. It really like it has the potential to go a little bit yourself in grandizing. You know, like, where it's like. Look at me, i'm an intellectual and you know even Jim Morrison and then Gord Downey. They both kind of you know they're like I'm not gonna do that. Their critics could accuse them of that, of being a little bit like you know in their own head or like too impressed by themselves. But I didn't get that impression from either of them but because I liked them. 0:17:47 - Speaker 3Yeah, me too. 0:17:48 - Speaker 4But and I like watching the creativity of it, you know, But doors is a perfect example, because that would be, I would say, the closest which I never got. to see them, So yeah. 0:18:00 - Speaker 1Pete, did you have you? because I don't know how much you dug into the pod, but we you know, one of the things that Tim and I struggle with is that you know, when we did the, when we did the pod, we recorded everything, because everything's recorded up into this point. Pretty much We're just kind of trickling the pods out leading up to the finale. But like a lot of folks, like you know, we had a week to digest the record and then it was week over week over week over week And, like so many people, like dude had fucking a year or two years to like and it had their whole lives to get to know this band. I think it's, you know, i'm not gonna we'll smoke up my own ass, but maybe I'll hold a little Tim's ass. But we, you know, i think it's, you know, i think it's, you know it's a little bit of a Tim's ass, but we, you know, i'm. I think it's pretty impressive because at this point, now that we're kind of all done, i fucking love this band. I mean, i've gone back and listened to the records we weren't super keen on and they're just dude, they're. I don't know what American rock fans were fucking thinking back in the day when this band was like pinky. 0:19:14 - Speaker 5Is that why? Yeah, i really think that a big part of why they didn't quote make it in the US, which they did to a degree, they just weren't selling out stadiums. But I think a big part of it had to do must have had to have been because of ill attempted marketing. Like, like, when bands go on tour, there are people behind the scenes that are doing promotions in every city. They're hanging posters, they're giving away tickets, they're talking about on the radio all of these things. You know everybody in LA who does this for a living And I talked to him briefly about it and he said marketing probably was marketing, i and can't. And I'm like, oh, you know, and the labels, when the hip was on with labels who weren't promoting them in the US, like, oh, they're gonna play in these six epicenter cities, we're gonna sell out them, sell out them more, maybe if all the Canadians show up, sure, that was, that was what happened. But man, if they were promoted more in a real way, like other bands on their US labels which I can't remember right now, i think they would have totally hit it. When they were on in my house the other day I said to my wife if this was playing in 1992, i would have been totally into it, cause we were talking about bands we were into in 1992. And some of them, like right now, i might have thought they were pretty good back then, but some of them right now I absolutely do not listen to. But if I would have, heard the hip in 1992, I would definitely be going back to albums right now, I believe. 0:20:48 - Speaker 4Yeah, it's interesting, that's really all. but with both what you guys said, it's really interesting cause I it's not what I expected, like number one, you've just let my audience know you've been, you've been through the entire catalog of the hip, which, when you said it takes you time to process a tragically hip album, i mean I remember like in real time, when these things came out and we would like line up at sunrise at midnight to get the new road apples or whatever you know. And but each album like road apples compared up to here and day for night compared to road apples, or like, or fully, completely, you know they were. they were as soon as you put in the new album you were like, ah, like this is, this isn't as good as the last stuff, and then you'd listen to it like a hundred times and then it would become your favorite album. you know, like totally. And I find Jack White like I'm a huge Jack White fan and it's the same thing with his stuff, cause he's pushing himself and he's growing, you know, and then it kind of takes you a bit to get your head around what he's trying to do And then after a while you start digging it, you know. That's a good example And I think that's. That's the kind of like I. You never liked the hip album when you first got it. You always liked it a couple of weeks later. You know, Like Is it. 0:22:15 - Speaker 5Sorry, is that true? Is that true for you, jamie? Were there any albums you just were like just had on repeat, psyched, go, go, go, go listen to it a hundred times a week. 0:22:26 - Speaker 3I was in love with like from the moment I heard it Like. So There you go, but and fully, completely too Trouble at the hen house. The first time I heard it I was like I'm not sure about this, but you're right, it was, it was, it was different, they were, they were, you're right, They, they were growing and I was stuck behind. Yeah, yeah, now that's like my favorite record. 0:22:46 - Speaker 4Yeah, yeah. 0:22:48 - Speaker 3Like like hands down. 0:22:50 - Speaker 4Yeah, and then, like I, yeah, cause yeah up to here was the only one I would say that I was like I'm in, this is everything's great. And then the only thing is that a lot of songs kind of sounded similar maybe, but but but then everything I was comparing everything up to here And then, and that's just. And then I just wasn't like like you said, i just wasn't developing like the. That's why it takes me a bit just to catch up, cause I'm slow, i'm just. You know, you're just a consumer, you're being fed, fed shit, you only know what you know And then get something new and takes you a bit. 0:23:28 - Speaker 1But you also never know how long it's going to take. I had a. I had a record I won't need to mention cause it's just not even important, but the record from a band that I really liked And when they're it took seven years. Seven years. It came out in 2007 and it wasn't until 2014 when I picked it up again And I literally thought this was the shittiest record I had ever heard. And I picked it up again and it turns out being my favorite record And it was like like it takes time, but for for what, tim and I? the gauntlet that fucking JD's put us through the last seven months, like how many? 0:24:05 - Speaker 3albums There's 14, 14 hours, 14 or 15. Yeah wow. 0:24:11 - Speaker 4And then, uh, yeah, that's crazy, man, that's crazy. So the what was I thinking? Oh, you're to um, you know, david Bowie's black star, that album, last album, yeah, yeah, same thing. I was like you know, i wanted Ziggy Stardust and I got black star. I was upset. And then, uh, you listen to it and you're like this is the greatest thing he's ever done. This is man. That album is incredible. Oh, yeah, and uh, yeah. And then the more you know the fact that he, uh, he doesn't, he, he leaves on an open note Like he doesn't, uh, he doesn't end on the top, on the home note, the number one, the one he doesn't end on, the one you know that's a and he knows he's going to die. 0:24:53 - Speaker 1You know, that's crazy, That album it's funny because I remember when I bought that album right when it came out, right after he died, because he died a couple of days before my birthday, because he died a few days after his birthday, which is January 8th Mine's a 16th and I bought it and I just didn't. I wanted to get it, i couldn't. And then a friend, when I moved back to Spain, explained to me that it was a lot of the songs are built on flamenco chords, spanish flamenco chords, and I was like get the fuck out of here. And then I we listened to it together and explained it to me And I was like, because a drummer of our band? and I was like, oh, that makes sense. And then the whole record made sense to me. 0:25:33 - Speaker 4It took years, isn't that great. That's a beautiful thing about music, our art in general. You know like, no matter what kind of the art, the comedy is the same way you can work your whole life. You're never going to know all the risks and all about it You're never going to. It's just so infinite in the amount. So like, that's what I like about it, about it, you know, like you can, you're never going to feel like you've got all the answers you know, when you find art, when you find art like that, that's timeless, that's, that's, that's the best stuff I think you know. 0:26:04 - Speaker 5Yeah, that's right. Yeah, something you can put on, i mean, just at any point in time. It's just that's, that's. Those are the keepers. Yeah, i don't know if we'll feel the same way. Pete, have you gone back to any any? Bob Rock produced albums. 0:26:18 - Speaker 1You know it's funny. I haven't yet, tim, but I really am looking forward to it because I think it's going to happen. I think eventually all end up like sending a letter Is Bob Rock still alive? 0:26:28 - Speaker 5Yes, oh, my gosh Yeah. 0:26:30 - Speaker 1Okay, then I'll send him like an apology letter and like be like Bob, i'm sorry, cause there are people that love. 0:26:36 - Speaker 3We are the same now And when it came out it was pretty universally derided. And there are people that absolutely adore that record now And I'm I'm one of them. Like, like, i really did not like that record the first time I heard it. Like I remember meeting Greg in the grocery store We were doing fully and completely at the time And I was like, so I did some pre listening and uh, wow, every song sounds the same. It's all droney, it's you know. And now I think, like depression suite is amazing. I love morning moon, um, queen of the Furrows is like weird and out there. But I but I dig it, but it's not, it's not. It still doesn't feel quite like a hip record because there's no Lang Lawn and St Clair backup vocals. You know it's, it's, it's just different. 0:27:24 - Speaker 4Yeah, do you hear that? Uh, i think it was at the Gino's or something. Uh, after CORE Downey died, uh, muse filled in and they did um, it's a, she did a cut. No, it's not, it's not. I said the wrong name FIEST, fiest. Yeah, fiest did, uh, did the vocals and it was for it's. Uh, it's a good life if you don't weaken. Yeah, it's a good life if you don't weaken and uh and. But like when the background vocals kicked in and then it was like, then you're like Oh, this is the hip. Yeah, cause before it was just a cover, you know. And then, as soon as you heard St Clair's backing, it was like Oh man, this is, this is cool, you know, yeah, yeah. 0:28:07 - Speaker 5Um, yeah, i was. I was asking Pete, because this morning when Amy was making coffee, I was like coffee girl. It just happened. So, bob, bob is coming in. Hey, knock on the door. 0:28:23 - Speaker 4Hey, i was hoping, uh, we, so this has been. This is really cool. If you guys, uh, who are listening to this show, if you want to check out this podcast and see how these two people were converted to the ways of the tragically hip um, uh, how can they find the show, jamie? 0:28:39 - Speaker 3go to getting hip to the hipcom and, uh, you can go anywhere that you find your podcasts you'll get getting hip to the hip And it is. 0:28:49 - Speaker 4It's going to all uh, culminate with a grand finale live show in Toronto on September 1st. Yes, sir, and people can get tickets for the show Same place. 0:29:00 - Speaker 3Getting hip to the hipcom and, uh, click on tickets and, uh, you know, uh, we'll get a great host for that evening. 0:29:08 - Speaker 4Well, thank you. Yeah, i'll be hosted by myself and uh, we have uh the finale of the podcast and you have uh entertaining the audience of uh. was it 50 mission cap or? 50 mission 50 mission, which is a hip cover band. They'll be playing, and where is it? 0:29:25 - Speaker 3It's at the rec room in Toronto on Bremner, right across from the sky dome. 0:29:29 - Speaker 4Oh sweet, it's going to be super fun. So please check us out And, uh, we will be running a uh draw here at the Dutch hall for a listener to get a free uh free ticket to the event. How about? 0:29:40 - Speaker 1a pair A pair. 0:29:41 - Speaker 4You can bring a friend. Thank you, that's nice, yeah, and I can even give you a ride if you want, if you're local. So we got all those things working for us, and there'll be details on that at the end of the show, but I don't want to keep these guys any longer doing business. Um does. 0:29:59 - Speaker 1This is the sky down where the blue jays play. Yeah, Oh fuck, that'd be cool. They're playing a game that they're not, they're out of town. 0:30:08 - Speaker 3Are we taking a game? for sure, yeah, Hey, pete. 0:30:12 - Speaker 1Pete, i've been wanting to tell you a joke, man Come tell you a joke, yeah, please do, just to turn After he's done. 0:30:20 - Speaker 5Then, pete, you play guitar to Pete and see if you guys can trade. 0:30:25 - Speaker 4Yeah, you have to do that. Okay, I'll trade your talents. I know two chords. 0:30:30 - Speaker 1So so you know Creedence, right. You know Creed's Clearwater, right. Yeah, yeah, ccr yeah. Yeah, so do you know what the difference between John Fogarty and Marvin Gaye is? 0:30:43 - Speaker 4No, I don't. 0:30:45 - Speaker 1So Marvin Gaye heard it through the grapevine, but John Fogarty played it through the grapevine. Yeah right, Tim, just snickered at that one. It's one of my all-time favorites Whoa man, don't tell that at the finale. Pete, let it sit there. 0:31:09 - Speaker 4Only if I'm really stuck I'm going to pull that one out of the toolbox. You're not going to speak to people like this. No, guys, i want to thank you for spending this time with me and getting to, for taking the time to get to know me and my audience. I really am excited about the podcast And I think it's going to be interesting. Yeah, i hope so. You guys got you guys did kind of shit on them a little bit right. Oh, yeah, they hold back. Yeah, but I think it is interesting to know that even some of the opinions that you held not so long ago may have already changed by the time the finale is going to be For sure. Yeah, Totally have. Yeah, yeah, that's cool, man, and I think that's kind of a testament to why I think they're worthy enough to still be concentrating on. You know is because this shit can happen. This stuff can really happen where people can be turned on to something new and it's new to them. So who cares if Gord's dead? you know, like these guys, never. You know, if you never heard it, like my daughter's. A perfect example Her and the bass player in her band. The bass player in her band said did you hear. Remember when the hip came out with those new tracks? Yeah, and they were all like 90s era sounding. 0:32:27 - Speaker 3They were like road apples. 0:32:28 - Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, they were great, you know, and my daughter's friend brought that to me and they're like, have you heard this? And then they started getting into it and it was brand new to them. Oh, that's hilarious, and so like to watch my kids get into it. What I was into is really a kick. So like, and then like, i think that this is a great example of it. And one time I went fishing in BC and the guy was Australian. That was like running our tour And I asked him about the question what in your country is the band that you guys would love and nobody else gets? Do they say midnight oil? He did say midnight oil And I go well, we all know midnight oil. You know, like beds are burning. And he goes like fuck that song. You know, like you guys don't know midnight oil. If you think it's beds are burning, look into their back catalog when they're a punk band, you know. And then, and it was way different, really Way different, and nothing like anything that made them popular, but it's so, it's. maybe there's bands like this everywhere. You know you can. I never knew about like all all that old good soul music because it never played on any radios that I got to listen to. You know, like I just found out about Al Green like five years ago, like that breaks my heart. You know where was Al Green my whole life? But so there is a lot of good stuff out there And I think this podcast kind of shines a light on that. So I think it was going to be, while we're checking out, so getting hip to the hit, check it out. Everybody And Tim, thank you very much for, for, for the, for doing this for me. 0:34:03 - Speaker 5Yeah, thanks, pete. 0:34:04 - Speaker 1Thanks Pete. Thanks JD, Good to see you guys? 0:34:07 - Speaker 4Good to see you guys. Yeah, and we will see you on September 1st Sounds great. See you September 1st, can't wait. All right, take care, guys. Okay, this show would be nothing without our sponsors at CleanFlow. If you'd like to support them, go to cleanflowcom That's K L, e, e, n, f L O dot com and check out all the great products. Lube up your life with clean flow. And if you'd like to support our show, go to patreoncom. slash dutch hall And you can join our queen, jen Husko, and being a part of dutch hall royalty. And if you're a business that's looking at any sponsorship opportunities, you can also look on Patreon and look at options there. And every time someone on our show gets a little tight ass about what we're putting out on social media, i will put that on Patreon. 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We lost an icon. Though Tina technically did this song with Ike, we like to pretend it's all her. For obvious (or maybe not obvious to everyone) reasons. She was a force to be reckoned with and this song and performance is a testament to that. Huge shout out to John Fogarty, though, who is the original writer of these words, an anthem for freedom and equality. Well done, John and Tina! 2009 Performance by Tina Turner Cover art by Kitty Sopow --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/christine-kiefer7/message

In 1969 they sold more records in America than any other band including the Beatles and the Stones but within a few years Creedence Clearwater Revival had split up with a bitterness rarely matched, even in the topsy-turvy world of rock music. Fast forward 50 years, and former leader and main songwriter John Fogarty is back on tour, including the UK and Ireland, so now seems as good a time as any to look back on his former group's unique musical legacy and discover what made them one of the biggest bands in the world....and what destroyed them. In 1993 Bruce Springsteen said that CCR  were "not the hippest band in the world, but the best". Writer John Lingan has written a critically-acclaimed biography of the band - 'A Song for Everyone - the Story of Creedence Clearwater Revival.' It's an engrossing tale. John's our special guest in this month's episode of Misadventures in Music,  with Ian Prowse and Mick Ord."

I met Kenny Aronoff through LinkedIn and thought he would be a fairly interesting podcast guest. Boy, was I wrong! Not fairly interesting, but incredibly interesting and fascinating.   As you will learn, Kenny was named by Rolling Stone Magazine as one of the top 100 drummers of all time. In his biography, you will see a partial list of the people and bands that have benefited from his talents.   You will get to hear how he eventually decided to start playing modern music. This story is one in a million and it, I must say, captivated me right from the outset. I hope it will do the same for you. I do hope you enjoy it. I'm not going to give it away. Listen and see for yourself.     About the Guest:   Kenny Aronoff is one of the world's most influential and in demand session and live drummers. Rolling Stone Magazine, in fact, cited him as one of the “100 Greatest Drummers of All Time” and Modern Drummer named him #1 Pop/Rock Drummer and #1 Studio Drummer for five consecutive years. The list of artists he's worked with on the road and/or in the studio reads like a who's who of the music industry, and includes:    John Mellencamp, The Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Tom Petty, Sting, The Smashing Pumpkins, Billy Gibbons, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, Bob Seger, Bob Dylan, John Fogerty, Jon Bon Jovi, Elton John, Rod Stewart, Eric Clapton, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Ray Charles, B.B. King, Joe Cocker, Steven Tyler, Dave Grohl, Chris Cornell, Garth Brooks, Don Henley, Melissa Etheridge, Keith Urban, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Stevie Wonder, Alicia Keys, John Legend, Beyonce, Mick Jagger, Slash, Bonnie Raitt, Ricky Martin, Santana, Crosby Stills and Nash, Celine Dion, Lenny Kravitz, Vince Gill, The Buddy Rich Big Band, Leonard Bernstein, Aaron Copeland, Hans Zimmer and many others.    With a style of playing that combines power and finesse, his unique and versatile sound has been instrumental on over 60 Grammy-nominated or awarded recordings representing over 300 million in sales, with more than 1300 that were RIAA certified Gold, Platinum or Diamond.    Kenny's winning approach to drumming and to life has given him the ability to sustain a successful career for over four decades.                                                                                                                                     In addition to performing and creating amazing music, Kenny is an inspirational speaker.He talks about Living Your Life by Your Purpose, Teamwork Skills, Innovation, Creativity, Hard Work, Self Discipline, Perseverance, and staying Relevant in your career and life.  Striving to always be better have been the tools that have kept Kenny at the top of his game for over four decades.     Author is the most recent addition to his long line of credits.  Sex, Drums, Rock ‘n' Roll! The Hardest Hitting Man in Show Business (Backbeat Books, November 15, 2016). This is not about sex; it is about the same passion that drives us all to be the best we can be doing what we love with those with whom we want to share our talents.    How to Connect with Kenny:   IG   https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/   Facebook https://www.facebook.com/KennyAronoffOfficial   Twitter  https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL   Linkedin   https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyaronoff/   TicTok  https://www.tiktok.com/search?q=kennyaronoffofficial&t=1660858209914   Website    https://kennyaronoff.com   Youtube https://www.youtube.com/kennyaronoffofficial   Uncommon Studios LA  https://uncommonstudiosla.com         About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.     Transcription Notes Michael Hingson  00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson  01:20 Welcome once again to unstoppable mindset. I get to do something today. I have not done on this podcast before. But I've been looking forward to it for quite a while. I get to talk to a real live still absolutely functioning incredible man who is also a musician Kenny Aronoff has been a drummer for four decades he has played with basically anyone that you can imagine, although I'm going to try to stump him with one in a second here. But he's played with all of the people in the who's who have music no matter who they are. And and I'm so really excited to have the chance to talk with with him today. So Kenny, welcome to unstoppable mindset.   Kenny Aronoff  02:08 Thank you for having me. It's great to be here.   Michael Hingson  02:11 All while stump you right at the outset. Have you ever played with George Shearing   Kenny Aronoff  02:14 is that the guitar player who   Michael Hingson  02:16 does know George Shearing was a blind jazz pianist? He died?   Kenny Aronoff  02:20 Okay, I know. I'm thinking is that your is another guy had a close name? No, I never did. Well, there   Michael Hingson  02:25 you go. Oh, well, I found one. Well, I don't know he had a trio that he worked with. But I don't know how much he worked with a number of people primarily he played on his own. So it's not too surprising. But that's okay. But Stevie Wonder John Mellencamp Mellencamp. And have you ever. Oh, I gotta ask Have you ever played with Michael Buble? A.   Kenny Aronoff  02:51 Singer, I think he came onstage for one of these big events. Well, I play with everybody. I think I did play with Michael Boulais. He was one of the guests shows we were honoring whoever was, you know, I'll play with 25 artists in one show. Yeah. Might have. He may have been paired up with somebody else singing. Yeah. So I think I did.   Michael Hingson  03:11 Well, you know, we finally got to see him in Las Vegas. He's been my wife's idol for a long time. And I don't I enjoy him too. He's He's a singer who is saying the Great American Songbook, a lot of the old songs and all that. And he was in Vegas earlier this year. And so we got to go see him. And we actually really were very fortunate because we, we were escorted in early because my wife was in a wheelchair. And so they brought us in. And then the Azure came about five minutes before the show started and said, I've got two tickets that haven't been used down in the orchestra pit and they said I could give them to someone. Would you guys like them if the seats accessible? So of course, we said, Sure. Well, it was and we ended up being 18 rows from the stage, actually two rows in front of his family. And we got to see it was it was great. It was a wonderful concert. So   Kenny Aronoff  04:04 yeah, he's very, very talented. He's created his own niche in his own style. And that's a hard thing to do.   Michael Hingson  04:09 It is. But but he has done it. Well with you. Let's start like I love to start. Tell me a little bit about growing up and where you came from, and all that kind of stuff. Well, I   Kenny Aronoff  04:19 grew up in a very unique little town in western Mass, a group and like an old country farmhouse in the hills of Western Massachusetts to be whatever town was Stockbridge, Massachusetts. Maybe 3000 people but what was unique about that town, it was basically a slice of New York City. I mean, New York City was three hours away. Boston was two hours away. And there was a lot of arts. A lot of you know you had theater people there you had the Boston Symphony Orchestra in the next town over Atlanta, Lenox mass, which is three miles away. You had, you know, Sigmund Freud's protege, Erik Erikson, the wintertime Norman Rockwell, the illustrator lived in our town and he I used to go over to his house and me my twin brother. We I think we were in second grade. We should still cigarettes from him. We had a, you know, let's see. Norman Mailer was the next house down for me when you couldn't see anybody's houses where I lived. It was all woods and fields. But Norman Mailer, the great writer was right down the street from me. Another eighth of a mile was a Patty Hearst used to live in the house which they she had rented from the Sedgwick family, which is where Edie Edie Sedgwick came from that family. Down the bottom of the hill was a summer stock theatre where a lot of actors would come up from New York to get out of the city. So I met like, you know, people like Franklin Joe of Faye Dunaway and Bancroft, Arthur Penn, the movie director lived in our town, and so he would direct some place there. Goldie Hawn, which Dreyfus, they went on and on it. And this, this seemed normal to me. I didn't realize Daniel Chester French, who, whose was the sculptor, who did you know, the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial, he he at one point did our area. And when I went to Tanglewood, which is the most elite student orchestra in the country, if not the world, took me four years to get in there. But it's won by the Boston Symphony Orchestra. They only take seven percussionist in the whole world, when you when you audition, I literally failed three years in a row. And in my fourth attempt, I got in, but on that property is Nathaniel Hawthornes house. And he wrote The Scarlet Letter. I mean, I can just go on and on this area was just an extraordinarily extraordinary place to grow up with it was so many arts and intellectual people. But the thing that was amazing about this town was that it didn't matter. If you had money or had lots of money, everybody, you know, houses one locked keys were left in cars. It was a community. It was a it was a community where people support each other. So it's a great place to grow up.   Michael Hingson  07:13 That's one of the things I've always liked about Massachusetts. I lived in Winthrop for three years back in the well, late 1970s, early 1980s. But I always enjoyed the camaraderie and it was really hard to break into the community. If you were from the outside and I was viewed as an as an outsider, though I worked as hard as I could to, you know, to try to be involved. But if you weren't from there, it was really tough. By the same token, people were very kind to me, so I can't complain a whole lot. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty good. And I was you actually beat me to the question I was going to ask you if you had ever made it over to Tanglewood. I never got to go up in here the symphony in in the winter in the summer. But I did needless to say get over to hear the pops on several occasions and and that was fun. And there's nothing like the Boston Pops. There's other than a Boston Symphony for that matter, either.   Kenny Aronoff  08:13 Well, I got to perform timpani on that stage. And with Leonard Bernstein, conducting Sibelius Fifth Symphony Orchestra, which is a feature of the timpani in and it's, it was incredible. So you know, my parents saw Easter dragged me to the concerts I didn't really want to go. And I ended up then being in we actually did Fourth of July with Arthur Fiedler. And apart from mingled in with   Michael Hingson  08:40 the half shell. Yeah. So you went to school, went to high school and all that, how long did you live there?   Kenny Aronoff  08:48 Well, I lived in non stop until I was 18. After 18, I went to one year at University of Massachusetts at Amherst, which is about an hour down the road. And then I transferred Well, what I did was I got into the Aspen School of Music, one by Julliard after my freshman year. And that's where George gave me the professor of Indiana University School of Music, now called the Jacobs School of Music. He was a he went to the percussion department at the school and this is the number one school of music in the country, if not the world. Yeah. And I wanted then I liked this guy. He was so deep. He was more than just a percussionist. He's a philosopher and a well rounded man. Anyway, I wanted to follow him and go to Indiana University. You have to realize I mean, Indiana was the best school and so I wanted to be in that school. And I demanded an audition up there and he tried to talk me out of it. Try to come back in January and will audition then. Then I said, Absolutely not. I want to audition. Now. I don't want to come to Indiana University, from the Aspen School of Music. It was a summer program. I convinced him I did audition, you had to audition for four different departments to get in. And it just so happened that they had people from four different departments that are you teaching up there like brass, woodwinds, violin percussion. And I auditioned, got in and spent four years at Indiana University. Now, that's when I started to spend more time away from home. Because you know, I was gone. You know, I come home for Christmas and summer, but that was pretty much it. Yeah. And it was an incredible education.   Michael Hingson  10:35 What? So, you, as you said, were dragged kicking and screaming to concerts and so on What changed your mind?   Kenny Aronoff  10:46 When I started to actually study classical music and start to perform in orchestras, I, I appreciate every style of music, and especially if it's done, right. And I've really, really enjoyed classical music. I mean, it was even though when I was a kid, and once rock'n'roll came out, it was like, you know, how was the classical music, but it was still on the soundtrack. To my upbringing, my parents had classical music and jazz on the turntable. They were from New York City. And that was very popular in that that time for them. So I didn't most keep the kid I had too much energy to sit and watch a concert, but performing it, you know, it was a different story. And then I became really good, eventually got into the Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra after I graduated Indiana University. And I actually turned it down, which was a shock to everybody. Because I'd spent five years becoming great at classical music. And I turned it down. Because I mean, and thank God I did is because I was following my heart, my deepest desires, my bliss, or your, you know, whatever you want to call it, I wanted to still be in rock bottom open. Now, let me back up a little bit when I was 10 years old, playing outside of that country farmhouse. And there was nothing to watch on TV back then. There was no case not   Michael Hingson  12:12 much more now, either. But yeah, with the so what year was that?   Kenny Aronoff  12:17 That was 19. I want to say 1950 1963 or 64. And maybe mom yelled at me, my twin brother come in the house. And we were like, Oh my God, what do we do wrong? You know, like, we thought we'd done something wrong. And what it was that we come running across the lawn, and we'll get to the family room, she's pointed a black and white RCA TV set with the rabbit ears to get better reception. And on TV. Also never, you know, for guys playing rock and roll music, you know, electric cars and bass, that long hair, and I don't know who they are. But I heard rock and roll on radio, but I'd never seen it live. And I. I mean, I was at that very split second, I realized what my purpose in life was before I even knew what those words meant. And I just knew I wanted to be doing that. I wanted to be part of that. I want to be part of a team of guys that's playing music, like they are and I said to my mom, who are these guys said, Well, they're the Beatles, The Beatles, I want to be in the Beatles call him up, get me in the band. And give me a drum set. I don't want to play piano anymore. Anyway, she obviously didn't call the Beatles up and didn't get me a drum set. So that was where I was really blown away and realize this is what I want to do. So when I turned on the Jews from Symphony Orchestra, I turned out certainty for possibility or turns down certainty for you know, complete uncertainty. And that was that one we wanted to it's what Yeah, to do. Exactly. And thank God, I followed my heart because obviously it paid off. But it was a struggle, man, it was like took a long time for me to eventually run into a guy like John Mellencamp, who he took a chance with me, and then took a long time for me to, you know, plan a song, play a drums on a song that got on the record, you know, when I first got in the band that I had only and the reason why I got in the middle of combat is because I got the last record that they had, and they were looking for a drummer, and I just memorized everything that all these other drummers did on the record. And well, in that case, it was just wondering what but they I memorize him he played in so I won the audition. And five weeks later, we were making a record in Los Angeles. And I realized that you know, or the producer basically fired me after two days, because I had no experience with making records, you know, to get songs on the radio to be number one hits, and I was devastated. You know, I was like hey, but I played with Bernstein and Bernstein and didn't matter. I had No experience. I didn't understand the value of teamwork the level of it's not about me it's about we it's not about what I'm playing. It's about what can I play to make that song getting the right record that will eventually be played on radio and become a one hit single.   Michael Hingson  15:18 Usually got to add value.   Kenny Aronoff  15:21 Well value to the team   Michael Hingson  15:22 that was the most that's what I mean by adding Yeah,   Kenny Aronoff  15:25 yeah. Because you know, when you try to be great at anything, it's all about you. It's all about me. But to be Tom Brady are a great you know, a leader and be a great you know, do something great for the team. It is about the team. It's not about you serve the band, serve the song serve, whoever's in there. You know, serve, what can I do to get that song to be elevated to be a number one hit single? Because if you if you become an if you have a number one hits, surely you're gonna make millions dollars. It's the way it was when I was a kid.   Michael Hingson  16:00 So for you starting out more doing the I oriented kinds of things, but then moving to the we mentality, which is essentially what I hear you say, how did your style change? How did you change? How did it affect what you did?   Kenny Aronoff  16:17 Well, I wasn't thinking about just what I want to play. I was thinking about what can I do to get this song on the radio so in and I had to think about how I can be the greatest drummer I can be for John Cougar Mellencamp songs. So I started don't my plane down and made it simple and started to simplify what I was doing. And that really worked. I started this into Rolling Stones, Creedence Clearwater, Bad Company, groups, where the drummers were playing with authority. They had they pick the right beat, they kept time, they made it groove. But ultimately, it was to make those songs that song better, you know, and that's what I started changing. I simplified my playing. And I remember thinking, Man, I gotta learn to love this. Because if I don't love this, I'm gonna suck at this. If I suck it this, this, just get another drummer. And so I had to learn how to pivot into serving songs serving the artists.   Michael Hingson  17:15 Did you ever meet Buddy Rich? Absolutely. I've kind of figured, or that other great drummer Johnny Carson.   Kenny Aronoff  17:23 And never met Johnny Carson.   Michael Hingson  17:25 I remember I remember watching a Tonight Show where the two of them Oh, yeah. Did drums together?   Kenny Aronoff  17:32 Oh, it was incredible. But he was tribute record. And that was an such an honor. Playing you know, to to blazing. Well, one was the medium tempo song, big swing face, which was title of an album, and the other was straight, no chaser blazing fast. And it was it was a very meaningful experience for me.   Michael Hingson  17:54 You know, and clearly, you respect that and just listening to you. You, you respect that, that whole mentality and you're approaching it with a humility as opposed to just being conceited, which is, which is great, because that really is what makes for a good team person.   Kenny Aronoff  18:15 Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, once again, at that point, I understand a student serving, you know, serving the song serving the artist, serving you know, whoever, whatever it is, what can I do to be great?   Michael Hingson  18:28 That's cool. So you know, you, you've done that you say you started playing, so was your first maybe big break in the whole rock world with John Mellencamp, or Yeah, it happened after you turn down the Jerusalem symphony.   Kenny Aronoff  18:45 Well, after a turn on juicing shift and went home, I started practicing eight hours a day, seven days a week at my parents house, I humbly moved back home, and still didn't know how I was going to break into the Rock and Roll scene. And after a year, I after a year, I decided to move to Indiana and start a band with a bunch of guys and somebody and one of their dads invested a lot of money into getting as a band truck lights, PA, and the business model was to write songs, get a record deal, record those songs, and then go on tour. And after three years, we didn't get a record deal. And I was like, Man, I don't know what what I'm going to do. So I decided I was going to move to New York City, which is one of the top three centers of the music business. And I ended up a week before moving to New York City. I have lunch with the singer songwriter, woman Bootsy Allen, who asked me what I was doing. I said you have gone to New York. Are you going to crush it good luck. And they said you know there's a guy in town I don't know if you've heard of him is John Coogan guy. He's on MTV, this new network and he's made records, you know, who is this? Yeah, for whatever. I wasn't a big fan of his music. It was very basic. And at that point, I was born to technique and chops, which is something you know, usually when you're young, you're like, you want to do more as more. But she said, yeah, man, he's they just got off tour, they were opening up for kiss. And he fired his drummer last night. And I was like, what, and I was in my head of going thinking the meaning of a god, that's records touring, MTV, oh, my God, this this is like being in the Beatles. This is what I dreamed about. I went running out of the restaurant, went to a payphone and called up books, there was no cell phones, and I call up my buddy Mike, and in the band and said, Look, I hear you might be looking for a drummer that got audition. He said, Call me back in two weeks, and we're going to try to sort some things out. And eventually, I do get a call, oh, he called me back. And I did audition. And long and short of it is I, I won the audition, because I prepared intensely practicing six, eight hours a day, trying to learn all the drum parts that were on the last record, a winning audition. And five, we say well, now Nellie making the record which I got fired on, as I mentioned,   Michael Hingson  21:20 then what happened after you got fired?   Kenny Aronoff  21:23 Well, that was crucial. That was a life changing moment, when John said, with a producer, I thought it was John, but it was a producer wanted to get this record done. And I had no experience making records. So he wanted to get it done in eight weeks, which is not a very long time to go toward a new band and do overdubs, get vocals and mix and master. So he wanted to bring in his drummers. And when we had a band meeting, and I kind of knew I could tell something wasn't right, my my spidey sense that something's not right. We had a band meeting and John told me I'm not playing on the record. And the words came out of my mouth and life changing. And he said, You go home at the end of the week, I said, No friggin way. Am I going home. And I remember the band looking like Oh, my God. Can't believe K Dick. Because you know, John was pretty tough guy is pretty tough. And so they felt what's gonna happen next. See what happened was happening there. As I was overwhelmed. I felt like a loser. I felt like a piece of crap. I felt like just I was every negative thing sad, you know, depressed, and I was bummed. He was stealing my purpose, my whole deepest desires. My whole reason that I'm alive. He was taking that for me. I just said, There's no way and I told them, I'm not going home. And that'd be like me telling you, you're fired. And you go, No, I'm not. I'm like, Dude, you're fired. And like, No, I'm not. And What don't you understand about the words you're fired? So I just, I mean, I am. I said, Well, due to my studio drummer, what? And he goes, Well, yeah, but you're not playing on the record. And I started scrambling, I said, Well, I'll go in the studio and watch these other drummers play my drum parts on your record, and I'll learn from them and I'll get better. And that's good. Fuchs, I'm your drummer. He was silent, didn't say a word. Shit. We're okay. You don't have to pay me, I'll sleep on the couch. And then he said, perfect. And that's what happened. And that was a life changing moment. Because if I had gone home, who knows what would have happened, maybe you've gotten another drummer. So that was a jaunt. To me in my autobiography, sex, drugs, rock and roll, he was saying, Wow, he really respected me for that, at that moment, he didn't realize I had that, you know, that I cared that much. And I would, you know, stand up to him and demand to be there. And he respected me for that. So how, yeah,   Michael Hingson  24:02 how much of it was ego and how much of it was really following your heart at that moment?   Kenny Aronoff  24:07 It was more about fear. And about following my heart, okay. No, I was like, I see what you mean about ego. I didn't want to go back home and I would have been ashamed to go back home and, and but but the fear of losing this gig and the fear of the unknown and what comes next was making me want to fight for what I had.   Michael Hingson  24:31 Yeah, um, you know, when there are a lot of people who are excellent in their fields, and they think very highly of themselves, which is fine, except that really detracts from the the team orientation which I know you understand full well. And so, it it's great to hear that it was really more following your heart and really you wanting to do the right thing. and having the courage of your convictions?   Kenny Aronoff  25:03 Well, yeah, I mean, I didn't see any other way out. And I've been banging my head trying to make it for four years after turning down the Jerusalem symphony orchestra. And I was 27. And I thought, Man, I don't know any options. So I want to do this, if I'm going to make this happen. And, you know, if I look back at my life, when I'm passionate about something, I make it happen, you know, it's easy to get along with me, I'm a great team player. But there is definitely a point where I will like, draw a line in the sand. And I might be very nice about it. But um, you know, I this is, I will fight for what I want. And it's usually backed by passion, and desire, and when anything is backed by passion, desire, or purpose, or bliss, or whatever you want to call it, you know, you're gonna, you know, you're gonna get what you want, and it's gonna be hard for people to convince you otherwise. And so yeah, that's pretty much, you know, when John was taking away my, my job, I saw no other options, and I'm seeing torn MTV, regular TV, and making records. And being part of a band that I truly believe was gonna make it and I was like, that, there's no way I was going to just lay down, you know?   Michael Hingson  26:29 Are you a person who reacts to things knee jerk reaction, although they may very right, or would you say that somehow you've internalized and when you make a decision, is because you've really thought it through, which doesn't mean that you have to take a long time to do it. But do you? Do you think that you are the kind of person who when you say, I'm going to do this, it's the right thing to do, is because you've really thought it through?   Kenny Aronoff  26:55 Well, it's both I mean, there's a lot of things I do, because I have thought it through. But there's no question that at any given moment, if something comes across my table, and it strikes me from a place of my heart, not my brain, but my heart, and my passion, I will react. And that's when I'll use my brain to maybe observe and ask questions. But many times I've said Yes, before even, you know, get deep into asking questions when something blows me away, and I'm excited. Paul McCartney called me up and said, I want to make a record with you. I mean, it would just be a mad automatic. Yes. You know, it before it find out no, we're gonna make it in Siberia. And there's no heat in the building or something. And I mean, I'm just gonna say Yes, right away, because it's Paul McCartney. And now Yeah, yeah.   Michael Hingson  27:53 Yeah. I mean, that would make sense. But you've also, you've met him, you know, him, you've learned to trust too. So it's not like it is an unintelligent decision to just immediately say, yes.   Kenny Aronoff  28:07 Yeah, I guess with pa Yeah, of course. But I mean, you know, take somebody else, you know, I don't know. Somebody. That I don't really know that well. Sure. You know, and I would if it's the right person, I'm gonna go Yeah, right away.   Michael Hingson  28:23 Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. But still, and the if it's the right person, part of it is very relevant, it still means that you've done some thinking about it. One of the things I love in listening to you tell the stories is like with John Mellencamp, you really said look, I want to learn now, if I'm if I'm your drummer, and there's a problem with this record, and all that, then I want to learn what I need to do. So it will happen again. And the real great part about it is that you say I want to learn, I love people who are always interested in learning and becoming better and don't think so highly of themselves that they don't have anything else to learn.   Kenny Aronoff  29:03 Well, no, that's true. You know, I've I won't mention names, but I remember going up to a very, very famous singer. And I remember saying I could see he was frustrated, trying to explain what he wanted me to do. I got off the drumset when went up to him, I said, Listen to there's nothing I can do. You know, uh, you just have to be very specific about what you want me to do. And I will do it. Because I can do it. And I want to learn I want to be great. I want to and when you're working for an artist, you're in a place of service. So I want to get it I know I can get it. There was just a disconnect for for for the explanation. And that took took a while to work out but the bottom I saw his frustration, but I was trying to let him know dude, I can do anything you want. I'm capable. And I meant.   Michael Hingson  29:55 Again, the operative part is it sounds like you worked it out.   Kenny Aronoff  30:00 Well, I've worked out enough, you know, I've done so many big show. I mean   Michael Hingson  30:03 with with that person, you're able to work it out. Oh, that person? Absolutely. Yep. Yeah, that's my point. And so you do, you do explore. And that is, that's a wonderful trading characteristic that more of us should develop. And we should have confidence in ourselves to know what we're capable of and know what we're capable of learning, and then go forward, which is what I'm hearing from you.   Kenny Aronoff  30:32 Yeah, absolutely.   Michael Hingson  30:35 The first time I did a speech in public after September 11, I got a call from a pastor of a church and he said, I want you to come and tell your story he had then I'd been on Larry King Live two weeks before first time I'd ever been on CNN and Larry King Live, but it was again after September 11. And I was used to being in a in a public setting. So it didn't bother me a lot. But this guy calls up and he says, I want you to come and tell your story. We're going to be doing a service to honor all the people who were lost from New Jersey in the World Trade Center. And I said, Okay, I'm glad to do that. And then I said, just out of curiosity, any idea how large the service will be? How many people will be there? And he said, Well, it's going to be outside probably about 6000. You know, I've never done a speech before. And my immediate reaction was, it didn't bother me. Okay, great. Just wanted to know, and I've done some things in church before, and I've, I've talked in some public settings, but not to do a real speech like that. Yeah. But, you know, I knew that it didn't matter to me if it was 6000 or six, four, for me. There were techniques to learn. And over time, I learned that good speakers don't talk to audiences, they talk with audiences, and they work to engage people and, and when the in their speeches in various ways, and it's so much fun to do that. But 6000 It really just worked out really well. And there were other people there. Lisa beamer was there, her husband was Todd Beamer, the guy on flight 93, who said let's roll and, you know, it's a pretty incredible night and I'll never forget it. But you know, you know what you can do and when you really know your capability, but are willing to share it and grow and learn. What more can somebody ask for?   Kenny Aronoff  32:30 Yeah, I mean, I, my thing about being alive on this planet is to get the most value out of this life. I'm not I hope there's something after this, but whether there is or not, the point is to get the most value out of this life when it's very short. So I'm not wanting to sit, I'm just wired that way. I'm not sitting sitting on a couch, just you know, hanging out on a daily basis. You know, I I've played on 300 million records sold. I've toured with some of the greatest bands in the day, as diverse as you know, the highwomen, which is Johnny Cash, and Kris Kristofferson whether James will Richard to Jerry Lee Lewis to the Smashing Pumpkins and Tony Iommi, from Sabbath to Boston Symphony Orchestra and Ray Charles and BB King to sting to The Beatles and The stones. And I feel fortunate that I get to play with so many different people because you get pigeonholed in my business. You're a rock drummer, you're a country drummer, you're this, you're that drummer. So and that that definitely ties into the ability to be able to connect, communicate and collaborate with people because who they want in the room with them. It's not just the most talented musician, it's somebody they want to hang out with. Mellencamp is to say, look at, I need people I get along with, I'm lonely on stage for two and a half hours. While the rest of the time I got to hang out with you guys. So I want people like get along with you. Right? You know, and I get I totally got that. Because the thing is, is that to get what I like about getting the most value out of life is that I'm wired to grow and learn. And the beauty it's a building, you know, a skyscraper, you know, the top only exists because you built the foundation from the bottom, you work your way up and you get, you have to be strong and you build and I don't believe in mistakes or failures. They're just events that get you to the top. And if the words mistakes and failures, bring in negative energy to your body, so I don't even use those words anymore. Everything's an event. Something that doesn't work out the way you want is a learning experience. It's a gift. And I'm like, basically Tom Brady, you know, you're always trying to get into the endzone. If you get if you fumble, you get sacked or whatever. Whatever life is filled with sacks and dropping the ball. He said where are you trying to go? What you Northstar or my North Star is the end zone. So that happened, what did I learn from it? How are we getting in the end zone? And that's where I look at life.   Michael Hingson  35:08 Yeah. Well, and, you know, to to extend your, your thought, I agree about the whole concept of mistakes and failures for me. And people have said it. And I and I firmly agree with, like Zig Ziglar, and others who say that there's no such thing as a mistake. It's a learning experience. And the question is, do you learn from it? And that's the real issue, do you learn from it, and I, I, where, after September 11, I started speaking to people and traveling the country and still do, and enjoy it immensely. But one of the things that I realized over the last three years with the pandemic is that I've never taught people some of the techniques that I learned along the way and used just because they came along, to not be afraid. On September 11, I had developed a mindset that told me that I can observe, I can focus and I don't need to be afraid. So we're starting to actually we're, we just submitted the first draft of a book about learning to control your fear so that you don't be an individual who when something unexpected happens, you let fear as I put it, blind you, you learn how to use that fear to help heighten your senses and direct you. And one of the things that I talk about is the whole concept of how much do you at night take time just to be introspective and look at the day? And what happened today? What what do I learn from this? How could I have done this? I was successful with this, but how could I have been even better? Or this didn't go? Well? Why? And what can I do about it and really think about it, you know,   Kenny Aronoff  37:01 that's good stuff that's very valuable, that says, that's a good way to learn, because you can learn from yourself. And, and, and sometimes we have to repeat things, many, many, many times to finally get the lesson. But if you do what you just said, and you take inventory and what went on that day, you could possibly learn that lesson way quicker.   Michael Hingson  37:24 And I've changed my language a little bit, I used to say that you are you're always going to be your own worst critic. And I realized that's negative. I'd rather say I'm my best teacher, if I allow myself to do it. And that is so true, isn't it?   Kenny Aronoff  37:39 Absolutely. That anything negative, you should throw out the window and pivot it, flip it to the it's always positive. And there's definitely always another narrative. And the positive narrative is always going to serve you better than the negative   Michael Hingson  37:55 always will. There's no great value in being negative and putting yourself down. You can be frustrated by something that didn't go the way you thought, Well, why didn't it? It may very well be that there's a legitimate reason why it didn't work out. But if you figure that out, and you allow yourself to teach you about it, you want to make you won't make the same scenario happen again. You will be successful the next time.   Kenny Aronoff  38:22 Yeah, absolutely. Yep. I totally agree with you on that.   Michael Hingson  38:26 So have you done anything in the music world dealing with rap?   Kenny Aronoff  38:34 I've never been on a rap record. But when you know, I remember being in the Mellencamp band. And that was a long time ago, I left in 96. I remember I was listening to some Snoop Dogg and I was grabbing ideas from those records and bringing it to melachim. That's what we were always encouraged to do. Back then they were budgets long we could make spend nine months making a record. And you could do a whole record sort of way and start from scratch. But I was getting ideas with ideas, loop ideas. I remember making sleigh bells on a song. Super I played sleigh bells on a whole bunch bunch of songs on early records in the 90s. And I copy that and John loved it. It's a different thing. And so yeah, in that regard, I did learn a lot from the rap music.   Michael Hingson  39:22 I've I don't know my my view of rap has always been I think it's a great art form. I'm not sure that I view it in the same musical way that that some people do because it's not so melodic, as it is certainly a lot of poetry and they kind of put poetry and words to to music in the background. But I also believe it's an incredible art form listening to some of the people who do rap. They're clearly incredibly intelligent and they're, they're pouring their hearts out about what they've experienced and what they see sometimes in ways that you don't even hear on regular mute. Music?   Kenny Aronoff  40:01 Oh, yeah. I mean, there's no question that it's, it's a, it's a form of music. It's a reflection of, you know, we're societies that you know, I mean, the arts will always reflect where people are at, and is a huge audience of there's a lot of people that can relate to this whole style of, of music or what rap is. It's a lyrics are very powerful in that they it's mostly centered around a beat and lyrics. And yet a lot of attention is drawn to that, as opposed to just take a band where they have, you know, two guitar players playing melodic lines and the keyboard player melodic line. And there's none of that really going on not not to the extent of of that in rap music. And although some people have added Dr. Dre at a lot of stuff, to the people he's worked with, like Eminem, but still, it's more centered around the voice the person.   Michael Hingson  41:04 And message and the message.   Kenny Aronoff  41:06 Oh, absolutely. The message. But you know, the thing is, is it's you, I guess it's up to everybody decide. You can call it whatever you want. And then it doesn't matter. If somebody's digging it. They did. They don't they don't is that?   Michael Hingson  41:23 Well, it is absolutely an art form. And it's an art form that should be as respected as any. In certainly it is to pardon the pun struck a chord with a lot of people and that's fine. And it's in it's great that there's so much of it going on. So what kind of tours have you been on lately? What kind of music have you done or what's coming up?   Kenny Aronoff  41:46 But I just finished the Joe Satriani tour. He was one of the greatest guitar players on the planet. Because it was just an evening with Joe Satriani. It's a very tech the music is very technical. It was, it was great for me because I was, you know, my, my technique excelled tremendously to play those types of songs. I'm going to Europe with him. See, April, May and how to June for nine weeks doing a thing called G four, which is a camp that he does in Vegas, which will feature the guitar players Eric Carroll, Steve Luthor, Steve Morse, C, Peter Frampton, and a bunch of other people. Basically, when I finished the Joe Satriani tour, I had 85 songs waiting for me to learn. Some of which I recorded my studio, I have a studio called uncommon studios. I tried to push back all the records I was going to make while I was on tour to when I got off tour. I did that and then I just finished doing a show maybe three nights ago with Jim Mercer and the owner of the Indianapolis Colts, who's showing his museum is so American collect collectibles as he calls it, a collection snatches musical instruments but it could be like, you know, American cultural type stuff like Abraham Lincoln's handwritten letters, you know, eases Wharton's writings, Muhammad Ali's gloves and belt from the thriller from Manila fight. I mean, it just goes on and on. And so I did a concert with him, but that featured like Kenny, Wayne Shepherd and Wilson from heart, John Fogarty, Buddy Guy, and Stephen Stills, and that was 30 songs. I had to learn and perfect. I write everything out. I know every tempo, I know all the song structure. So my goal is not just a drummer, but it's also to kind of keep everybody in it straight. And in line. We only have 112 hour rehearsal night before and the next day. It's, it's the show, so it's massive preparation. And next week, I'm going to do Billy Gibbons. So this week, on Thursday, I'm gonna do Billy Gibbons, a birthday party at The Troubadour and Swidler no songs, I'm finishing I'm starting to edit my second book. It's a self help book. It's about you know, living your life loud and how important time is in the short life we live. That goes into my speaking world. I have an agent and I do inspirational speaking, I'm mostly corporations. And so that book is kind of like, as a lot of the stuff that's in that speech, but a lot more with a lot of action items and takeaways. I'm just, I just put out a drum book. During the pandemic, a transition to my studio where people send me files, I make records for them, or I play drums on the records. I turned it into a place where new virtual speaking and now I may be launching a very a podcast with I have a whole team that will be you know produced to a director and everything, and I can do that from my studio, I have a wine that just came out. Uncommon wines just won an award. It's a cab serraj. Limited Edition. But yeah, I got a lot going on.   Michael Hingson  45:15 Well, and that keeps you busy. And it's obviously something that sounds like a lot of fun for you.   Kenny Aronoff  45:21 Absolutely. That this point, it's like, if it's not fun, I ain't doing it.   Michael Hingson  45:25 Yeah. Yeah, if you can't have fun, then what good is the world anyway?   Kenny Aronoff  45:32 It's up to you, man. It's up to you. You know, this, you know? We everybody has? Well, most people have options. So, you know, some people, you know, maybe less than others. But, you know, I just said, it's all in your mind. It's a mindset, you know, you can make things better, or more difficult. It is up to you.   Michael Hingson  45:58 And I think you really hit the nail on the head, if you will. Everyone does have options. And a lot of times we have more options. And we think we do we undersell ourselves, we underestimate ourselves, which is why I love doing unstoppable mindset. Because my goal is to help people recognize that, in reality, they probably are a whole lot more unstoppable than they think they are.   Kenny Aronoff  46:20 Yeah, well, exactly. But only you can figure out your power. It's up to the individual. And this is not a mental thing. This is an emotional thing. You have to feel your power. And and I think that's like a thing I call RPS repetition is the preparation for success. And that could be anything, anything you do over and over again, you get better at because you're doing it over and over again. And sometimes it takes longer to get somewhere with one thing then other things, but it's you can't just set it and forget it. You can't just like be successful one day and think that's it for life. No. I used to practice on the Joe Satriani tour, a song called Satch Boogie twice a day. And people go, why may you play that greatest said, because I played every day. And preparing every day? Yeah, playing it at night. That's why it sounds so good at night. And when I don't, then I usually learn a lesson that I need to do that I'm talking about the more technical things, you know.   Michael Hingson  47:24 Sure. Well, and that brings up the question of like, you're preparing to do the event at The Troubadour and so on, how do you prepare? What is it you do to learn the songs? How does all that work?   Kenny Aronoff  47:36 I've read every single note out that I'm going to play. Check out the church right here. For the viewers, I can hold up one sheet of music, very detailed. I write every single note out I got the tempo, and know exactly what to do, then I just drill it. I run through it. I practice the songs. When we're done. I'm going to practice that whole show tonight. Tomorrow, I'll practice it twice. And then Thursday, I'll practice it and then do the show.   Michael Hingson  48:05 Do you record your practice sessions? So you can listen to them? Or do you   Kenny Aronoff  48:10 know that that would be a real? That's a good thing to do? No, I don't. And it's no. That's a good, that's a great way to learn. But it's also time consuming?   Michael Hingson  48:24 Well, it well, it is a but you then get to hear it in a sense from the perspective of listeners.   Kenny Aronoff  48:32 So I do but I will I'm playing I'm listening to Yeah,   Michael Hingson  48:36 I understand. Yeah. And that's why for you, it may or may not be the best thing to do. I know for me, when I do a podcast interview, I will go back and listen to it again. And I do that because I want to see how I can improve it and see easiest way for me to do it. I listened to myself when I'm talking. And I listened to the person who I'm talking with. And I do my best to interpret their reactions and so on. But still, for something like this, I get to learn a lot by going back and listening to it. And as I as I tell everyone I talked with about this, if I'm not learning and it's the same thing with speaking if I'm not learning at least as much as my audience or my guest. I'm not doing my job. Well. Yeah.   Kenny Aronoff  49:27 Well, you don't I mean, there's no question listening to what you do is great. Great way to learn. I'm using is moving so fast and doing so much that just Yeah, I don't have time. But that's no question. I think that's a great way to learn. You know, and when I see myself I feel myself speaking. Oh my god, that's so humbling, right? Yeah. Oh my god. And   Michael Hingson  49:51 it's such a when you're speaking and you're doing an auditory thing like that it probably is best to go back and listen to it. I remember when I was are at the UC Irvine radio station que UCI and was program director. I worked to get people to listen to themselves. And they they would record their shows. So we actually put a tape recorder in a locked cabinet, a cassette machine, and we wired it. So whenever the mic was live, the voice was recorded. And then we would give people cassettes and we would say that you got to listen to it before the next show. Yeah, it was really amazing how much better people were. At the end of the year, some people ended up going into radio because they were well enough. They were good enough that they could be hired and went on to other things. Yeah, and it was just all about, they really started listening to themselves and they realized what other people were hearing. Yeah, no, that's,   Kenny Aronoff  50:51 that's, that's a great, I think that's brilliant. You know,   Michael Hingson  50:56 it's a it's always a challenge. So, so for you. What was the scariest or the, the weirdest show that you ever did or performance you ever did?   Kenny Aronoff  51:10 Well, probably the most one of the more scary moments in my life was when I was 20. Barely 23 And maybe I was still 22 I for my senior recital at Indiana University. You know, I was a performance major. I got you the way we learned how to play melodies and have that type of education because we play violin music or cello music on marimbas. Well, for my seniors I pick the virtuoso Violin Concerto that Itzhak Perlman played as his encore, in his concert I saw when I was a freshman, and so beautiful, but highly technical. And I spent one year, two or three hours a day, learning that one piece one of four pieces on my senior recital. And it was I learned it so well, that my professor won me to audition for concerto competition, and I won, which meant that I performed that piece with the 60 piece orchestra in an opera Hall bigger than the New York met, which is an Indiana University. Now granted, this is the number one school music in the country for classical music. So this is there's no handholding. There's no coddling, there's no trophies. This is like being I want to almost say like being a Navy Seal, especially with my teacher. But that guy helped make me and I was the right student for him become who I am. And the discipline that I learned from was extraordinary. But anyway, I've never, you know, usually when you're a percussionist, you're in the back the orchestra. So this was the hear the rolling the marimba out in front of the this big concert hall. And I'm in the wings, you know, with a tuxedo and I walk out like the solo violinists. And I was crapping my pants in the whole thing was memorized. And oh, man, I was terrified, but I crushed it.   Michael Hingson  53:14 Well, you took control of your fear.   Kenny Aronoff  53:18 I do well, I tend to I tend to take fear and use it as as a not a weapon, but I use it. It'll alternative the power, it is power. But on the other hand, we do have the ability to sabotage ourselves. And that's something is a child would do. Because you have self doubt you're small. everybody around you is big. You've got parents, teachers, coaches, whoever telling you, Kenny, that's wrong, bad, bad, bad. And as a little guy, you know, you're trying to please everybody. Then maybe my teachers saying to me, sometimes when I make a mistake, he'd look at me go, Kenny, are you afraid of success? And I'm like, What is he talking about? But realize that when you're younger, you start to think you're gonna make I'm gonna mess this up. Oh, here it comes. And you do and you do. But now that I'm older, I realize from this, this I hate that so much that I want to be successful so much. I overpower any of those feelings. I'm like, it's more like I got this and I'm gonna get it. And I meet believe it. But I can't tell anybody listening. There's a quick remedy for that. You don't take a pill and all sudden you become that? That's a long talk because I used to think how long am I going to end up being like this why sabotaging myself where your fear takes over. Now, I use my fear as my strength. I don't even know if I want to call it fear. Somebody says you get nervous when you do Kennedy Center Honors or any of these shows. At this point. Hell no. I don't get fearful As I get serious, I'm like in the Superbowl, and I know I can win. But I also know that things will not necessarily go the way you want. Because you're not the only one on that stage. Right? People, it's my job at any moment to be able to adapt, or die. You adapt immediately. You fix it, or you die, and I'm not about dying.   Michael Hingson  55:25 Have you ever had any experiences when you were on stage? And in a sense, you blew it? But then you recovered or anything?   Kenny Aronoff  55:34 Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, what you want to call blow it blowing, to me would be just one note in the wrong places. To me. It's nothing I don't like but the huge. The place I'm in now is I know very, very, very. I know how important is to forget about that. And to stay focused and stay in the game. It's like Tom Brady getting sacked. And his two minute drill to win the game. He gets sacked. He's got to be you can be pissed off for a second but he's immediately focuses on endzone, touchdown, endzone touchdown. One thing I learned from that experience, we aren't run in place that direction, the more we're doing this, you take it and you flip it, it becomes your power. So when something goes wrong, there's a part of me Of course, it's like really pissed off. But I also understand deeply in my gut, that you've got to blow that off and focus on how you're going to be a bad mofo. And I don't talk about my mistakes. A No, I don't have mistakes, I don't talk about the things that don't work out. Because you don't want to talk about them, you're giving it too much power, you just move past it. If somebody brings it up to you, you then can have a discussion. But unless somebody brings it up to you, you just move on, you don't think about it, and you don't dwell on it, because that will weaken you   Michael Hingson  57:00 every time. Absolutely every time. And you know, it's as we said, it isn't No, it isn't a mistake, you you did something, you played a wrong note, but you really spend so much time practicing, you do get it to be and I don't use this as a way to negate it, it becomes very rote. By the time you're playing in the actual performance, you have really worked to make sure that you truly understand what the event is, what the music is that you're supposed to be playing. And you're used to it. I would also wager that no matter how much you practice, when you get up on stage, now you're in a dynamic where you have the whole orchestra or the band or whatever. I wouldn't be surprised if there are times that you adapt on the fly as well.   Kenny Aronoff  57:54 Absolutely you do. I mean thing is, like this concert I just did with all these great artists, they were, you know, people, I have everything written out. But people would drop in courses are dropping parts. And I adapt and I direct, I help people, you know, or if I if I, if there's something I space out or something, I'm very quick at self correcting. And, you know, making it work out.   Michael Hingson  58:22 That's what it should be.   Kenny Aronoff  58:24 That's what exactly that's what it should be. Yeah. And and you, you you will let yourself down, if you get sucked into this bloody ego in, in getting drawn into Oh, woe is me and failure and all that. You got to push that aside, you got to be centered, like, like a Navy Seal or a warrior king, you know, or warrior queen, where you people are looking to lead and looking to you for strength and wisdom. And I want to be that person, I am that person.   Michael Hingson  59:03 And at the same time you also know when you're leading, if you're a good leader, you know when to let somebody else take the lead because they have a skill that works in that particular moment.   Kenny Aronoff  59:15 Absolutely. I call it lead them to lead. Hmm. Help them lead assist them to lead without saying anything. You do this your job to help them feel like they can lead.   Michael Hingson  59:30 So how did you get involved now in starting to do public speaking kinds of things and travel around and do some of that?   Kenny Aronoff  59:38 Well, I wrote an autobiography called Sex, Drugs, rock and roll and people were asking me to speak a little bit. I had done about 30 years of drunk, drunk clinics masterclasses where I would speak it was a show so but to speak. Like we're talking about I had to really work develop a craft it wasn't you know, I I worked to some writers, I built websites and got rid of them got different ones, I went and spoke to an agent and he told me what it really means to be a speaker what you need to do, I did what he told me doing, came back to him two years later, and showed him what I had done. And he was blown away. He said, I want to work with you. So he started, we started working together, and he started telling mentoring me and I started to put together a show. So filmed, you know, and I kept developing it and honing it down. And, and now you know, I've got, you know, teamwork, leadership, innovation, creativity, connecting communication, collaboration, realize your purpose, staying relevant speech. And it's I do perform. During the speech, I have a set of drums there, that's the entertainment part. People want to see me perform, because I'm a drama. But the the message is very powerful. And it's it. It's not just, I mean, I've done this, my success in the music business is a proof of, you know, how to go from this little kid from a town of 3000 to 40 years. Well, not 40 years later, it's a lot years later. And after that, at this point, it's 60 years later, how I became what I had, how they became successful, successful, and they've stayed successful. And a lot of those skill sets. And what I learned in the music business applies to these other businesses I do, which also applies to other people's businesses. So I speak about that. And just to answer your question a little bit more specifically, I just, I put together a show I have an agent, and we've been building off of that. And I just am doing more and more of that.   Michael Hingson  1:01:48 Tell me about your book a little bit.   Kenny Aronoff  1:01:50 Well, sex One immediate the autobiography, the one one,   Michael Hingson  1:01:53 now the firt. Right now, the autobiography The first one.   Kenny Aronoff  1:01:57 Yeah, that's basically my life story. It's about how I came from that middle town of Western Mass Stockbridge and how I went to, you know, how I went from there to where I am now, basically, in a nutshell, and there's all kinds of stories, you know, Smashing Pumpkins, Bob Seger, John Mellencamp Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, meeting Bill Clinton, you know, there's a little bit of funny stuff, there's little bit of drama, is a little bit of rock and roll wildness. But the bottom line is the big message that the thread through the whole book is, I've worked my ass off and still working my ass off.   Michael Hingson  1:02:36 And I hear you stay in great shape. I must be from all those beating of the drums.   Kenny Aronoff  1:02:41 It is. But it's also I in my new book, I have the healthy life as a wealthy life, which is a basic eight step program on how to stay healthy, which affects you mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, you know, I won't go through all the details of it. But it's, it's definitely a setup. And you know, I'm aware of what I'm eating. And you know, I'm not perfect, but I'm aware of everything I put on me. So in other words, if I have a day one, eating not as well, as I, as I usually choose to, then I know how to make up for it the next day, and I do exercise every day. And of course, playing the drums. I mean, you're doing a three hour show. You're burning 1000s calories. Yeah. So there's that, you know,   Michael Hingson  1:03:24 which is, which is really pretty cool. And so you're, you're in a profession that keeps you active anyway, which is which is good. You cannot it's hard to tough to, to argue with that, isn't it?   Kenny Aronoff  1:03:38 Yeah. It's great. It's phenomenal. I love that unit.   Michael Hingson  1:03:42 Did you self published the first book? Or did you have a publisher,   Kenny Aronoff  1:03:45 I have a publisher for that was a hell, Leonard backbeats, which is now there now is Rowan and Littlefield did an audio version, this new book I have is is going to be self published. I am working in writing it for the second time. And it will be they have a marketing team. And but I own the book. And I may possibly look for a publisher after that. But this new book is more self help book. It's basically as I think I mentioned earlier, it's taking what I'm seeing in my speech, but with a lot more information, extending you know that information. So people can you know, if they want to hear more about what my my philosop

Pop Radio UK Show #228!!! Weirdly enough, there are rumors floating out and about that the world government might want to switch the calendar to all 28 day months…thus creating a 13 month cycle!  Birthdays would change, horoscopes would change, holidays would change.  What would NOT change is that YOU ARE MY SHOW SYNDICATOR!  Please, keep downloading and sharing the podcast of this show!  All the usual download spots.  Can you help me help these artists? Please and thank you!  If the songs, the show resonates with you, if the vibrations mesh properly, please do what you can, do what you might! The Music Authority Podcast... listen, like, comment, download, share, repeat…heard daily on Podchaser, Deezer, Amazon Music, Audible, Listen Notes, Google Podcast Manager, Mixcloud, Player FM, Stitcher, Tune In, Podcast Addict, Cast Box, Radio Public, and Pocket Cast, and APPLE iTunes!  Follow the show on TWITTER JimPrell@TMusicAuthority!  Please, are you listening? Please, are you sharing the podcast?  Please, has a podcast mention been placed into your social media?  How does and can one listen in? Let me list the ways...*Podcast - https://themusicauthority.transistor.fm/   The Music Authority Podcast!  Special Recorded Network Shows, too!  Different than my daily show! *Radio Candy Radio Monday Wednesday, & Friday 7PM ET, 4PM PT*Rockin' The KOR Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday at 7PM UK time, 2PM ET, 11AM PT  www.koradio.rocks*Pop Radio UK Friday, Saturday, & Sunday 6PM UK, 1PM ET, 10AM PT!  Pop Radio UK Show #228…SUPER 8 Music - Music-Authority-Theme-SUPER-8The Successful Failures - 02 A Coat For Your Dreams [James Cotton Mather]Monty Vega & The Sittin' Shivas - 09 Hungry Heart [Sonic Gloss]@Bubble Gum Orchestra - You Called To Tell Me [A Selected Retrospective] (Michael Laine Hildebrandt )YEE LOI ( TWO GIRLS) - FAN PAGE- Sheena Is a Punk Rocker [The Bandcamp Singles]@Action City - 01 The Lines You Blur [This is Action City] (Futureman Records)The Senior Service - Lovin' You Girl [More Time With The Senior Service] (Damaged Goods Records)Phil Yates & The Affiliates - 05 Green Eyes (Coming Soon) [Happy Holidays 2021 From Futureman Records]@The James Clark Institute - 05 Blue In The Red Room [The Colour Of Happy]The Explorers Club - Hurt So Bad [Wattage] (Goldstar Recordings)The Lunar Laugh - 07 Eternal Flame [Requested Materials]Nolan Voide - The Music Authority JingleGretchen's Wheel - 08 - Effigy [Pop Garden Radio Presents Commotion - A Tribute to John Fogarty & Creedence Clearwater Revival An Adam A Waltemire Production]Screeching Weasel- Hey Diana [The Awful Disclosures Of Screeching Weasel] (Rum Bar Records)Suburban HiFi- 02 The Year In Pictures [Superimposition]Chris Church - 04 Never So Far Away [Darling Please] (Big Stir Records)The Split Squad - 10 - As Bright As You Are [Another Cinderella]The Pulsebeats - 03 (She Sings Like) Joey Ramone [Lookin' Out] (Rum Bar Records)Marc Platt - 4_Whos Gonna Save Me Now [That Midlife Thing]Jeremy Morris – Today Is The Day [Live For Today] (www.jamrecordings.com)

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On Friday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest update on Conor Murray's involvement in Saturday's Six Nations test with France. We hear from John Fogarty on battling the heft of the French pack. Plus, Steve Borthwick explains breaking up the Farrell/Smith axis with England

The Mad Trio - "The California Pariah" - Jonathan Charny | James "The Fattman" Stephens With Guests Josh Lean and Rusty Pang shares headlines from around the world with a slightly different take. The trio is back with guests and not a trio to discuss celebrity deaths, John Fogarty got his CCR rights back, Foo Fighters to continue on, no respect what are solutions, and does it feel like we are on the precipice of something? This week's episode is sponsored by the wonderfully mischievous people at Oddassity Use “MADTRIO” for 10% off your entire order through Oddassity.com

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A video was posted online in recent days showing the burning of a Skellig Rangers flag. The GAA club has issued a statement condemning the matter. Jerry speaks to John Fogarty who is Gaelic games correspondent with the Irish Examiner. Earlier this month, a video was posted showing the burning of a Currow GAA jersey.

Join Smilin' Jay McDowell, guitar-player-turned-upright bassist from the small town of West Lafayette, Indiana, as he takes you on his journey from watching and playing in bands in the back room at Lucy's to traveling the world with BR5-49. If you lived in Nashville in the 90s and loved live music you may have known about the punk scene at Lucy's, but you definitely knew about the resurgence of hillbilly and western swing played in the seedy honky tonks on Lower Broad. Jay felt equally at home in both places. Some nights he'd hang out and watch bands at Lucy's or play a gig there with the band Hellbilly. Other nights he'd go downtown to drink cheap beer and watch Greg Garing, Paul Burch, Tim Carroll, or BR5-49 play at Tootsie's or Robert's Western Wear. When he was asked to join BR5-49 he jumped at the chance (it may have been the liquor talking), switching his primary instrument from guitar to stand-up bass and adding some additional style and substance to a band already bursting with it. Jay's tales include his favorite shows at Lucy's, what the scene was like on Lower Broad both pre- and post-BR5-49, chatting with Keith Richards and John Fogerty, touring with Bob Dylan, and what it was like when ALL the record companies came a-callin'. Smilin' Jay McDowell heads the video department at The Musicians Hall of Fame in  Nashville, TN, which opened to bring attention to studio and road musicians who play a vital role in the creation of music but rarely get the attention they deserve. He even has his own well-deserved exhibit in the museum celebrating his work as a session bass player with artists such as Marty Stuart, Dierks Bentley, The Black Crowes, Alan Jackson, Levon Helm, The Crickets and BR5-49. Go see it. This episode is dedicated to John Van Etten (1966-1995), Timothy White (1952-2002), and Jim Bessman (1952-2021). Episode Music Hellbilly - Make a Mess Los Straitjackets - Fury Lambchop - Cowboy on the Moon BR5-49 - Little Ramona (Gone Hillbilly Nuts) BR5-49 - Ole Slewfoot (Live from Robert's) Additional Mentions/Links: John Van Etten, The Shindigs, John Delworth, Laura Matter (The genius behind kickball), Hellbilly, The ‘Boro, Fun Girls From Mt. Pilot, Deanna Varagona, Los Straitjackets, Danny Amis, Eddie Angel, Scott Esbeck, Jimmy Lester, Lambchop, BR5-49, Chuck Mead, Gary Bennett, Shaw Wilson, Don Herron, Tootsie's, Robert's Western Wear, Zach Taylor, Garry Tallent , Timothy White (Billboard), Jim Bessman (Billboard), Greg Garing , Paul Burch, Tim Carroll, Keith Richards, John Fogarty, Bob Dylan Follow us / Say hello at lucysrecordshop.com and @lucysrecordshop Instagram, Twitter & Facebook. This show is part of We Own This Town, a podcast network of original entertainment and documentary content. You can find more info at the official site at WeOwnThisTown.Net and on Facebook, Instagram, & Twitter.

Jackie Tyrrell and John Fogarty of the Irish Examiner join Mikey Stafford and Rory O'Neill after a bizarre weekend of hurling. While Wexford ignited their championship with a rousing win over Kilkenny, Waterford and Tipperary exited with barely a whimper. The lads also react to the football qualifier draw.

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