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In this episode of JUST Branding, we sit down with Michael Bungay Stanier (MBS), the best-selling author of The Coaching Habit, The Advice Trap, and How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, to explore how coaching can become your secret weapon in branding and business. Learn more at https://justcreative.com/podcast If you're a creative shifting into strategy, leading workshops, or simply trying to manage client relationships without losing your mind, this one's for you.
In this episode of Unlocked, Michael Bungay Stanier and Skot Waldron explore the nuances of effective communication, leadership, and coaching. They discuss the importance of creating a safe environment for engagement, the TERA framework for understanding human interaction, and the challenges of empowerment in coaching. Michael shares insights from his books, including 'The Coaching Habit' and 'How to Work with Almost Anyone,' emphasizing the significance of humor and relatability in leadership. In this conversation, Skot Waldron and Michael Bungay Stanier explore the complexities of leadership, privilege, and the importance of coaching. They discuss the balance between performance and development-based leadership, the power of asking the right questions, and the concept of fierce love in coaching relationships. The dialogue emphasizes the need for leaders to be aware of their privilege while also recognizing the importance of emotional intelligence in guiding their teams. The conversation concludes with insights on building better working relationships and the significance of understanding perpetual issues in both personal and professional contexts. Website: www.mbs.works
Working caregivers, are you feeling overwhelmed trying to balance it all? Many don't know about the resources & benefits available to them through their employers. This week, Kathy Sikorski, an elder law attorney, and Jen Fink, your host, uncover the hidden gems in your employee benefits package that can ease your caregiving burden. Discover the benefits that can give you back precious time and energy. Are you leaving money and support on the table? Tune in to find out! Additional resources mentioned in this episode: Legal Benefits Long Term Care Insurance Financial Advisor FMLA Mental Health Benefit Physical Health Benefits Our Guest: Cathy Sikorski, Esq. a Speaker, Elder Lawyer, Author and Media Guest unravels the complex financial and legal problems in the caregiving crisis.Cathy uses her own caregiver experience and expertise to educate, entertain and elevate the conversation around work, money, aging and caregiving. In October 2021, Corner Office Books released her latest book 12 Conversations: How to Talk to Almost Anyone about Long-Term Care Planning. Click below to connect with Cathy at Facebook. Or go to her website www.cathysikorski.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Related Episodes: What Every Beneficiary & Trustee Needs To Know Money Talk: How to "Have the Talk" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sign Up for more Advice & Wisdom - email newsletter. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Please help us keep our show going by supporting our sponsors. Thank you. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Make Your Brain Span Match Your LifeSpan Relevate from NeuroReserve With Relevate nutritional supplement, you get science-backed nutrition to help protect your brain power today and for years to come. You deserve a brain span that lasts as long as your lifespan. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Feeling overwhelmed? HelpTexts can be your pocket therapist. Going through a tough time? HelpTexts offers confidential support delivered straight to your phone via text message. Whether you're dealing with grief, caregiving stress, or just need a mental health boost, their expert-guided texts provide personalized tips and advice. Sign up for a year of support and get: Daily or twice-weekly texts tailored to your situation Actionable strategies to cope and move forward Support for those who care about you (optional) HelpTexts makes getting help easy and convenient. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Join Fading Memories On Social Media! If you've enjoyed this episode, please share this podcast with other caregivers! You'll find us on social media at the following links. Instagram LinkedIn Facebook Contact Jen at hello@fadingmemoriespodcast.com Or learn more at Our Website
Working caregivers, are you feeling overwhelmed trying to balance it all? Many don't know about the resources & benefits available to them through their employers. This week, Kathy Sikorski, an elder law attorney, and Jen Fink, your host, uncover the hidden gems in your employee benefits package that can ease your caregiving burden. Discover the benefits that can give you back precious time and energy. Are you leaving money and support on the table? Tune in to find out! Additional resources mentioned in this episode: Legal BenefitsLong Term Care InsuranceFinancial AdvisorFMLAMental Health BenefitPhysical Health Benefits Our Guest: Cathy Sikorski, Esq. a Speaker, Elder Lawyer, Author and Media Guest unravels the complex financial and legal problems in the caregiving crisis.Cathy uses her own caregiver experience and expertise to educate, entertain and elevate the conversation around work, money, aging and caregiving. In October 2021, Corner Office Books released her latest book 12 Conversations: How to Talk to Almost Anyone about Long-Term Care Planning. Click below to connect with Cathy at Facebook. Or go to her website www.cathysikorski.com
In this episode of The Leadership Standard, host Jamie Mason Cohen sits down with Michael Bungay Stanier—bestselling author, Rhodes Scholar, and founder of Box of Crayons—to explore how better conversations can transform leadership and workplace relationships. With global recognition for his work on curiosity-led leadership, Michael shares practical strategies from his latest book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, and reflects on how vulnerability, clarity, and connection can reshape how we lead and collaborate.Michael Bungay Stanier shares his own leadership journey, from being rejected as a Rhodes Scholar to building one of the world's most impactful coaching companies. He also discusses how TEC Canada played a key role in amplifying the leadership of Box of Crayons' CEO and why creating “Best Possible Relationships” is the most powerful move a leader can make in 2025 and beyond.Through storytelling, wit, and years of experience training managers across the globe, Michael Bungay Stanier offers valuable takeaways for business owners, executives, and team leaders who want to lead with more intention and curiosity. His insights will resonate with anyone looking to elevate their communication, culture, and impact.Why your success depends on the quality of your working relationships.How to have a “Keystone Conversation” that builds trust from the start.When to repair a working relationship—and when to let it go.Why staying curious longer is a leadership superpower in 2025.Listen now and learn how better conversations can lead to stronger teams, better results, and more human leadership..
In this episode, Stephanie talks with Michael Bungay Stanier, the author of The Coaching Habit, about his new book How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. They discuss how successful law firm leaders know how to effectively coach teammates and how to foster what Stanier calls the ‘Best Possible Relationships' (BPRs). This discussion emphasizes the importance of curiosity over advice-giving, and the need for psychological safety in both client and employee relationships. The discussion is rich with practical insights and actionable strategies for improving workplace dynamics and fostering better communication, including how to have a Keystone Conversation and build better self-awareness in leadership. Links from the episode: Check out Michael's books MBS Works Women & AI Summit Chapters 00:00 - Women + AI Summit 04:08 - Michael Bungay Stanier Insights 11:34 - Understanding BPR (Best Possible Relationship) 15:30 - Keystone Conversations Explained 19:53 - Qualities of a Great Team Member 23:20 - Getting Started with Effective Practices 26:31 - Importance of the "Read Me" Document 28:50 - Finding Michael Bungay Stanier Online 29:10 - Exploring More of Stanier's Work 29:45 - Outro
In this episode, Stephanie talks with Michael Bungay Stanier, the author of The Coaching Habit, about his new book How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. They discuss how successful law firm leaders know how to effectively coach teammates and how to foster what Stanier calls the ‘Best Possible Relationships' (BPRs). This discussion emphasizes the importance of curiosity over advice-giving, and the need for psychological safety in both client and employee relationships. The discussion is rich with practical insights and actionable strategies for improving workplace dynamics and fostering better communication, including how to have a Keystone Conversation and build better self-awareness in leadership. Links from the episode: Check out Michael's books MBS Works Women & AI Summit Chapters 00:00 - Women + AI Summit 04:08 - Michael Bungay Stanier Insights 11:34 - Understanding BPR (Best Possible Relationship) 15:30 - Keystone Conversations Explained 19:53 - Qualities of a Great Team Member 23:20 - Getting Started with Effective Practices 26:31 - Importance of the "Read Me" Document 28:50 - Finding Michael Bungay Stanier Online 29:10 - Exploring More of Stanier's Work 29:45 - Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
Enter to win a copy of Michael Bungay Stanier book: How to Work with (Almost) Anyonehttps://chainoflearning.com/34Why do 70-90% of change initiatives fail?That's a staggering statistic. In many cases, new leadership comes in, economic pressures rise, or the next "flavor of the month" initiative takes over. What's happening and what can you do to counteract this trend?And if you are a change leader, lean practitioner, or continuous improvement coach, how do you avoid this becoming a career limiting move?To help us answer this, I invited Michael Bungay Stanier, leadership expert and bestselling author of six books, including The Coaching Habit and How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, to share his insights on leading personal and organizational change. Success in leading change comes not only from making structural shifts, but also from fostering curiosity and building strong human relationships.It's time to shift the failure rate to a success rate for your vision. Focus your energy on amplifying your influence and getting the buy-in needed from key people to create meaningful transformation.YOU'LL LEARN: How to reverse the trend of failed change initiativesWhat to do when others don't align with your vision for changeHow to create agency in the people you want to influenceTips on how to stay curious longer to make a strong impactThe importance of linking process improvement and people for lasting changeABOUT MY GUEST:Michael Bungay Stanier is at the forefront of shaping how organizations and leaders around the world succeed through focusing on curiosity and human relationships. He's the author of six books, which between them have sold more than a million copies, and is best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of this century.IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/34Connect with Michael Bungay Stanier: linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier Check out my website for resources and working together: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonSign up for Michael's newsletter and podcasts: MBS.worksDownload my FREE KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment : kbjanderson.com/katalyst TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 01:04 Reasons why change initiatives fail 04:56 Two foundational challenges for leading change07:38 The link between process improvement and integrating the people component13:23 Two strategies to stay curious longer and create lasting impact16:26 Tips to reverse the trend of failed change initiatives 20:20 Steps to embrace your influence and create the impact you want when leading change 22:31 Defining A and B list relationships24:04 Improving the quality of working relationships24:45 How to build BPR (best possible relationships) and keystone conversations to discuss how to best work together before diving into the work26:13 Addressing challenging conversations to clarify roles and expectations upfront29:55 One way to increase influence and build human connection for impactful conversations31:11 Michael's new project in launching a new podcast Enter to win a copy of Michael Bungay Stanier book:How to Work with (Almost) Anyonehttps://chainoflearning.com/34
Welcome to the What's Next! Podcast with Tiffani Bova. As we approach the end of the year, I'm pausing to look back and celebrate all of the wonderful guests that I had the honor of speaking to on the show. And based on your feedback, many of these guests resonated with you as well so we're giving you another chance to revisit the stories, insights, and lessons you loved most in 2024! This week I'm excited to highlight an episode with Michael Bungay Stanier, otherwise known as MBS. Despite being virtual friends for a long time, we only had the chance to meet in person this year at the Thinkers50 event, where Michael won a coaching award. If you've never met, I'm so delighted to introduce you to Michael. He's best known for his book The Coaching Habit, which is the bestselling book on coaching this century and is considered a classic by none other than Seth Godin. His most recent book is How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. He founded Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that has trained hundreds of thousands of managers to be more coach-like in organizations, from Microsoft to Gucci. His TEDx Talk has been viewed by more than a million people. THIS EPISODE IS PERFECT FOR… anyone who wants to approach professional relationships more actively and intentionally. TODAY'S MAIN MESSAGE… sometimes work relationships have great chemistry - you get along with your manager or team and are excited about working together. Although it's an ideal situation, that's rarely the case. In this episode, Michael shares his strategies for building the best possible relationships with the people you work with. WHAT I LOVE MOST… taking a step back to learn about how we and the people around us work so that together we can amplify the best of who we are and avoid the worst of who we are. Running Time: 30:49 Subscribe on iTunes Find Tiffani Online: Facebook X LinkedIn Find Michael Online: Website LinkedIn Instagram Michael's Book: How to Work with (Almost) Anyone
5 weeks Remain in the Regular Season, and multiple teams still have a legitimate shot at the Lombardi! Plus the return of the clown of the week NCAA Edtion! Plus a Monday night football preview and much more! This episode is presented by Cannadips, Rightous Felon and Seatheek. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How do your working relationships influence both your happiness and success? When we think about the amount of time we spend at work and the significant role our colleagues play in our daily lives, it becomes clear that fostering positive and supportive relationships is crucial. Building strong working relationships, however, can sometimes be challenging. Conflicts, differing perspectives, and personality clashes are inevitable in any workplace. Michael Bungay Stanier, a renowned author, speaker, and leadership coach, provides invaluable insights and practical strategies for navigating the complexities of working with diverse personalities in his newest book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone: Five Questions for Building the Best Possible Relationships. Best known for his expertise in coaching, workplace relationships, and organizational development, he explores the nuances of different personalities and provides strategies to bridge gaps, manage differences, and find common ground. In this episode, Darius and Michael reveal the secrets behind building strong working relationships, the power of coaching to drive behavior change, and the art of navigating organizational change. Michael will also share insights from his new book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, offering valuable strategies for creating impactful connections and embracing transformation. Topics include: How Michael won the Rhode Scholarship and made it to Oxford University What Michael learned while working at an innovation company How Michael got into entrepreneurship after a job offer fell through The most common challenges of publishing and selling books Building safe, vital, and repairable working relationships Writing for people who interact with others Michael explains his new book How to Work with Almost Anyone How to make change happen in an organization The effects of coaching on a person's behavior Embracing change and saying “no” to certain situations And other topics… Connect with Michael: Website: https://www.mbs.works/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Almost-Anyone-Michael-Bungay-Stanier/dp/1774582651 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mbs_works/ Connect with Darius: Website: https://therealdarius.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariusmirshahzadeh/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imthedarius/ YouTube: https://therealdarius.com/youtube Book: The Core Value Equation https://www.amazon.com/Core-Value-Equation-Framework-Limitless/dp/1544506708 Sponsored by: Constant Contact: Go to ConstantContact.com and start your FREE trial today. Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit at Indeed.com/DARIUS. Legal Zoom: Get everything from setup to success at LEGALZOOM.com with promo code DARIUS. Mint Mobile: Cut your wireless bill to $15 a month at MINTMOBILE.com/great. Shopify: Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/darius. Timeline: Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mitopure. Go to timeline.com/GREATNESS. Write a review for The Greatness Machine using this link: https://ratethispodcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Send us a textOn this episode of The Get Ready Money Podcast, I was joined by Cameron Huddleston, author and Director of Education & Content at Carefull; Cathy Sikorski, author and speaker along with Neil Granger, Consultant and Expert to talk about changing the way we think about money and elder financial abuse. Here's what we discussed: Defining elder financial abuse and prevention tips.What is a trust mill?How to spot red flags. The importance of being proactive with your parents and communicating about frauds and scams. Adult children should pay attention to their parent's behavior.What to look for in an advisor. Bios:Cameron Huddleston:Cameron Huddleston is an award-winning personal finance journalist, author of Mom and Dad, We Need to Talk: How to Have Essential Conversations with Your Parents About Their Finances and director of education and content at Carefull. She also is an award-winning journalist with nearly 20 years of experience writing about personal finance. Her work has appeared in Kiplinger's Personal Finance, Chicago Tribune, Forbes.com, MSN, Yahoo! and many more online and print publicationCathy Sikorski:Cathy Sikorski, Esq. a Speaker, Elder Lawyer, Author and Media Guest unravels the complex financial and legal problems in the caregiving crisis. Cathy uses her own caregiver experience and expertise to educate, entertain and elevate the conversation around work, money, aging and caregiving. In October 2021, Corner Office Books released her latest book 12 Conversations: How to Talk to Almost Anyone about Long-Term Care Planning. Neil GrangerNeil Granger has been in the financial services industry for more than 39 years. In addition to being a California Life Agent, he is also licensed as a Life and Disability Analyst-one of less than 40 in the state. Neil has spent most of his Insurance career as an independent agent in the area life, health, disability and Long Term Care insurance sales, working with individuals and small businesses. Since 2009, Neil has focused his practice on Consulting and Expert work in the area of Elder Financial Abuse prevention. Neil has worked with several District Attorney Offices as a member of their Financial Abuse Specialist Teams, has testified in both Criminal and Civil cases, and works with the Investigative Unit of the California Department of Insurance. Neil has also helped draft, and has testified in favor of, insurance legislation, which has helped strengthen financial protection for California Seniors. He recently stepped down from the California Department of Insurance Curriculum Board after 12 years of membership- 6 years as its Chairman.Connect with Cameron Huddleston: WebsiteLinkedInX/TwitterFacebookInstagramConnect with Cathy Sikorski:WebsiteLinkedInTikTokConnect with Neil Granger:WebsiteLinkedInSupport the show
In this special ENCORE EPISODE worth a second, or perhaps your first listen, meet Toronto-based Michael Bungay Stanier, best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century, today talking with me about his most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. It's a fantastic conversation. Michael is a thoughtful and engaging guest, and we talk about the hard truth: most of us leave the health and fate of our at-work relationships to chance. We say "Hi," exchange pleasantries, hope for the best, and immediately get into the work. Through our conversation and his book, Michael shows and tells us how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work. About MichaelMichael Bungay Stanier is at the forefront of shaping how organizations around the world make being coach-like an essential leadership competency. His book The Coaching Habit is the bestselling coaching book of this century, with over a million copies sold and more than ten thousand five-star reviews on Amazon. In 2019, he was named the #1 thought leader in coaching, and in 2023 won the coaching award from Thinkers 50, “the Oscars of management”. Michael was the first Canadian Coach of the Year, has been named a Global Coaching Guru since 2014, and was a Rhodes Scholar. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to create psychological safety by building the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work.Michael founded Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that had helped hundreds of organizations transform from advice-driven to curiosity-led. Learn more at BoxOfCrayons.com. Michael is a compelling speaker and facilitator, combining practicality, humour, and an unprecedented degree of engagement with the audience. He's spoken on stages and screens around the world in front of crowds ranging from ten to ten thousand. His TEDx talk has been watched by a million and a half people. Learn more at MBS.works. En route to today—and these are essential parts of his origin story—Michael knocked himself unconscious as a labourer by hitting himself in the head with a shovel, mastered stagecraft at law school by appearing in a skit called Synchronized Nude Male Modelling, and his first paid piece of writing was a Harlequin Romance-esque story involving a misdelivered letter … and called The Male Delivery.Learn more at www.MBS.works Michael LeBlanc is the president and founder of M.E. LeBlanc & Company Inc, a senior retail advisor, keynote speaker and now, media entrepreneur. He has been on the front lines of retail industry change for his entire career. Michael has delivered keynotes, hosted fire-side discussions and participated worldwide in thought leadership panels, most recently on the main stage in Toronto at Retail Council of Canada's Retail Marketing conference with leaders from Walmart & Google. He brings 25+ years of brand/retail/marketing & eCommerce leadership experience with Levi's, Black & Decker, Hudson's Bay, CanWest Media, Pandora Jewellery, The Shopping Channel and Retail Council of Canada to his advisory, speaking and media practice.Michael produces and hosts a network of leading retail trade podcasts, including the award-winning No.1 independent retail industry podcast in America, Remarkable Retail with his partner, Dallas-based best-selling author Steve Dennis; Canada's top retail industry podcast The Voice of Retail and Canada's top food industry and one of the top Canadian-produced management independent podcasts in the country, The Food Professor with Dr. Sylvain Charlebois from Dalhousie University in Halifax.Rethink Retail has recognized Michael as one of the top global retail experts for the fourth year in a row, Thinkers 360 has named him on of the Top 50 global thought leaders in retail, RTIH has named him a top 100 global though leader in retail technology and Coresight Research has named Michael a Retail AI Influencer. If you are a BBQ fan, you can tune into Michael's cooking show, Last Request BBQ, on YouTube, Instagram, X and yes, TikTok.Michael is available for keynote presentations helping retailers, brands and retail industry insiders explaining the current state and future of the retail industry in North America and around the world.
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Meet the Women Behind the WOW Committee This episode features insights from six trailblazing women who are not only leaders in their respective fields but also passionate advocates for the WOW mission: Stephanie Choury, Enterprise Account Manager at Buckman Digital Water Tammy Faber Sales Director of HOH Water Technology and Co-Chair of WOW (Women of Water) Paule Genest, Director of Sales and ESG, Water and Energy at TGWT Clean Technologies, Host of the Paule-Cast and Co-Chair of WOW (Women of Water) Michelle Lunn, Marketing Director of GLA Water Consultants & Director on the AWT Board Janice Shawl, President of AMSA, Inc. a specialty chemical manufacturing company Pam Simmons, National OEM Sales Manager, Watson Marlow What is Women of Water? WOW exists to welcome, highlight, and celebrate the contributions of women in AWT. Paule Genest articulates the mission clearly: “To encourage all the women working and thriving within the industry of water technologies to come forward and contribute their time and talents to the greater good.” WOW focuses on creating a thriving community where women can belong, elevate, and positively impact AWT. Mission of the WOW Committee The mission of the WOW Committee is clear: to promote the professional development and advancement of women in the water treatment industry. By providing education, networking opportunities, and a strong support system, the committee aims to foster a diverse and inclusive environment where all members can succeed. This mission not only benefits women but also strengthens the industry as a whole by encouraging fresh perspectives and innovative approaches. Facing Challenges Head-On In every industry, women encounter unique challenges, and the water treatment sector is no exception. Pam Simmons, a dedicated member of the Women of Water (WOW) committee, sheds light on the obstacles women face and how the committee is striving to address them. Pam begins by acknowledging a reality that many women are all too familiar with the gender pay gap. According to the International Labor Organization, women globally earn about 20% less than men. This disparity is not just a number; it's a barrier that women must navigate throughout their careers. But the pay gap is only one piece of a much larger puzzle. There is also the issue of unequal opportunities, particularly in leadership. A 2022 report from Deloitte on women in the boardroom highlights that only 19% of boardroom positions are held by women. This underrepresentation speaks volumes about the challenges women face in advancing to leadership roles. For many women, the journey to the top is not just about breaking the glass ceiling; it's about finding the ladder to reach it in the first place. Career gaps present another significant hurdle. Whether its time taken off to have a baby or care for a family member, these interruptions can create substantial obstacles when women return to the workforce. Pam points out that these gaps can make it difficult for women to regain their footing and continue progressing in their careers. The struggle doesn't stop there. Navigating work-life balance is another challenge that resonates with everyone, regardless of gender, but it affects women in distinct ways. Pam reflects on how this delicate balance—or lack thereof—can leave a lasting impact on both personal and professional lives. The WOW committee is not just identifying these challenges—they are actively working to address them. Pam shares that WOW is committed to introducing resources and strategies to help women cope with these challenges. Through support, education, and community, WOW aims to empower women in the water treatment industry to not just survive but thrive. How is WOW Helping Women in the Water Industry? The WOW Committee is already making a significant impact. There are now three women on AWT's Board of Directors, the most ever in the organization's history. Stephanie Choury has seen firsthand how the inclusion of women has led to greater collaboration and innovation within the industry. She notes that the women on the Board feel they have a “seat at the table” and are making meaningful contributions alongside their male colleagues. WOW is also instrumental in providing mentorship and creating spaces for women to grow their knowledge, skills, and leadership roles. The Power of Mentorship Mentorship is central to the Women of Water (WOW) committee's mission, acting as a crucial tool for professional growth and community building. As the industry evolves, mentorship plays a key role in creating pathways for women in water treatment. Tammy Faber emphasizes the importance of mentorship, referencing Lean In by Sheryl Sandberg. Sandberg highlights that a mentor or sponsor can significantly boost career progression, yet women often lack such support. WOW addresses this gap by connecting seasoned professionals with newcomers. Tammy explains, “It's not just about an older professional helping a younger one; it's about leaning in and helping one another grow.” WOW has prioritized mentorship this year, especially with young professionals. Both mentors and mentees experience mutual growth, as Tammy shares: “The mentor-mentee relationship is so important because I can walk in a room and already know five people that maybe I only saw at technical training in March, but yet we've connected through text and email along the way. It feels like family and a safe place.” This focus on mentorship fosters a sense of belonging and a supportive network. Tammy notes, “We're a group that wants one another to succeed, and that's the power of mentor and mentee relationships.” These connections offer members a trusted group for advice and support, reinforcing that within WOW, no one stands alone. Empowering Connections: Key Takeaways from WOW's Leadership As we wrap up this insightful episode with the Women of Water (WOW) committee, our guests share powerful messages about empowerment, mentorship, and community. Michelle Lunn's closing thoughts are a beacon of encouragement: whether you're new to the industry or a seasoned professional, reaching out and connecting is crucial. Her message is clear—every woman in the industry belongs and has the potential to achieve great things. So, at the next convention or industry event, don't hesitate to introduce yourself and make connections. You have the power to excel and belong. Pam Simmons adds a call for self-awareness and openness to addressing subconscious biases in our interactions. She encourages all professionals to be mindful of how these biases might influence relationships and conversations. This self-reflection is essential for fostering a more inclusive and supportive environment. Tammy Faber challenges seasoned professionals to reach out to those who may seem hesitant or reserved. By engaging with someone who might be standing on the sidelines, you can make a significant impact. Invite them for a coffee, introduce yourself, and help them feel welcome. This simple act of kindness can make a world of difference to someone new in the room. Janice Shawl reminds us that women are a vibrant and integral part of the water treatment industry. Her message celebrates the contributions of women and underscores the importance of recognizing and valuing their presence in the field. Stephanie Choury underscores the immense value of mentorship. Whether at an industry event or in everyday interactions, extending a helping hand to others can be incredibly rewarding. She emphasizes that mentorship is a two-way street and encourages everyone to be both mentors and mentees. By fostering these relationships, we can all contribute to a supportive and thriving professional community. Paule Genest reinforces the core message of WOW: we belong, we elevate, and we are WOW. She urges everyone to help others recognize their worth and potential, creating a positive impact both within and beyond the industry. As we look at the current statistics—only 10% of surveyed AWT members are women, and a similar percentage represents women in industrial water treatment nationally—there is a clear need for continued effort. In 2024, 40% of our Scaling UP! H2O podcast guests have been women, reflecting progress and the importance of representation. Our challenge to you, Scaling UP! Nation is to connect with the remarkable women you heard from in this episode. Together, we can empower women in the best industry in the world to make a lasting impact on the water treatment industry and build a thriving, inclusive community. Timestamps 02:00 - Trace Blackmore hope to see you at AWT next week 04:25 - Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals 19:20 - Interview with AWT's Women of Water (WOW): Stephanie Choury, Tammy Faber, Paule Genest, Michelle Lunn, Janice Shawl and Pam Simmons 01:06:45 - Drop by Drop with James McDonald Links Mentioned AWT's Women of Water - Webpage AWT's Women of Water (WOW) - Facebook AWT's Women of Water (WOW) - Group in Linked InThe Rising Tide Mastermind Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses AWT (Association of Water Technologies) Read or Download Press Release HERE Episodes Mentioned Ep 096 The One That Helps Introverts Ep 202 The One Where We Learn the Best Ways to Network in a Virtual World Ep 117 The One with Temperament Expert, Kathleen Edelman Ep 179 Another One that Teaches Us to Communicate Better with Others Ep 281 The One About the Power of Kindness Ep 060 The One About Public Speaking Ep 363 Pricing Boost: Get Paid Well for Your Excellence Ep 192 The One with the Best Marketing Expert in the Water Treatment Industry Ep 191 The One Where We Learn About Tannin Ep 100 The 100th One Ep 252 The One About the Operations Manager Turned Sales Manager Connect with Executive Producer Corrine Drury For any Media Inquiries or Show Ideas please reach out Email: Corrine@blackmore-enterprises.com Website: www.ScalingUpH2o.com and www.RisingTideMastermind.team LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/corrinedrury and linkedin.com/in/traceblackmore Books Mentioned I Said This, You Heard That by Kathleen Edelman Lean In by Sheryl Sandberg Worthy by Jamie Kern Lima Dare to Lead by Brené Brown How to Work with (Almost) Anyone by Michael Bungay Stanier The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni Drop By Drop with James In today's episode, I have a challenge for you. The challenge is…clean and organize your OWN test kit and test equipment. Previously, I've challenged you to clean your customers testing area, but today we're turning the tables. Clean your own. Your test kit should not look like Moses used it to test the waters just before he parted the Red Sea. While it does not have to look pristine and new either, it should instill confidence in those that see it that the results obtained are trustworthy and reliable. Old reagent bottles with the labels worn off, broken equipment, and a jumbled mess of bottles does not instill confidence. Your test kit and equipment are extensions of you and are critical to doing your job. They reflect upon you and your quality of output and recommendations. Show them a little tender loving care. In the end, it will make your job easier and leave a better impression upon those around you.
Send us a textOn this episode of The Get Ready Money Podcast, I was joined by Cathy Sikorski, Author and Speaker; Joy Loverde, author and speaker; Paul Nagle, Executive Director of Stonewall Community Development Corporation and Peggy Haslach, Certified Financial Planner at Planning for Good to talk about changing the way we think about money and solo aging. Here's what we discussed: Why money is the number one conversation that you need to have. The importance of having trusted people and resources.Why community is vital. What's unique about solo aging for the LGBTQIA+ communityKeep everything up to date.Look for straight answers from advisors. Are you really being addressed? Joy Loverde is the best-selling author of The Complete Eldercare Planner and Who Will Take Care of Me When I'm Old? A seasoned keynote speaker and brand ambassador for the senior-living industry, Joy's appearances include the Today show, CBS Early Show, ABC News, and NPR. She is quoted in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Time Magazine, and others. Joy works with the senior-housing industry and other professionals as a mature-market consultant.Cathy Sikorski, Esq. a Speaker, Elder Lawyer, Author and Media Guest unravels the complex financial and legal problems in the caregiving crisis. Cathy uses her own caregiver experience and expertise to educate, entertain and elevate the conversation around work, money, aging and caregiving. In October 2021, her latest book 12 Conversations: How to Talk to Almost Anyone about Long-Term Care Planning was released. Paul Nagle is the Executive Director of Stonewall Community Development Corporation, a young organization dedicated to working with commercial and non-profit developers, policy leaders, government agencies and local communities to establish LGBTQ-friendly senior housing in NYC. Paul is also the Program Director at Musicians United to Protect Bristol Bay. Peggy Haslach, CFP, CLU is a Certified Financial Planner at Planning for Good. Ten years ago, Peggy decided to get the licenses needed to open her own financial planning practice after she saw firsthand how many women and LGBT seniors needed help navigating life events and how few women and LGBT worked in the areas where they needed help. Recently Peggy opened a west coast office of Planning For Good making it a bicoastal, LGBTQIA+ women owned financial planning firm dedicated to working with LGBTQ, women and other historically underrepresented communities. Peggy is a certified MBE through the NGLCC. In addition to advising her clients, Peggy has been working to change the face of financial services. She sits on the Cambridge Investment Research DEI Advisory Council and is the executive advisor to Unity™ the LGBTQ+ affinity program at Females and Finance.Connect with Joy: WebsiteLinkedInConnect with Cathy:WebsiteLinkedInTikTokConnect with Paul:Stonewall Community Development CorporationVirtual Village Resources in New York City: Events, Housing resources, health & mental resources and moreMusicians United to Protect Bristol BayLinkedInConnect with Peggy:Planning for Good
Michael Bungay Stanier shares how to set up professional relationships for success. From initiating, to maintaining, to fixing a relationship, Michael shares insights from his new book.
In this bonus Q&A with Michael, he shares:His proudest moment and biggest failure in his career so farA trend that he is following in Talent Development right nowThe biggest challenge he sees in Talent Development todayBooks that have made a big impact on his lifeOne piece of career advice he has for youMichael Bungay Stanier is best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century and recognized as a classic. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work.Michael was a Rhodes Scholar, and was recently awarded the coaching prize by Thinkers50, “the Oscars of management”. Michael is also a regular writer and keynote speaker and he has appeared twice previously on this podcast:Ep 107: The Coaching Habit with MBS - June 2019Ep 162: How to Avoid the Advice Trap - May 2020Connect with Andy Storch:WebsiteLinkedInJoin us in the Talent Development Think Tank Community!Join us at the Talent Development Think Tank ConferenceConnect with Michael Bungay Stanier:LinkedInWebsite
In this episode, Michael shares the incredible journey behind his self-published bestseller, The Coaching Habit, discussing its success, the clarity it brought to coaching, and its impact on the industry.We explore:The state of corporate coaching todayThe commoditization of coachingThe importance of making coaching accessibleHow minor improvements can transform working relationshipsThe value of social contracting and having Keystone conversations to enhance collaborationAndy and Michael discuss the broader themes of organizational change, conflict resolution, and the ongoing effort to maintain the human element in talent development amidst technological advancements. From personal anecdotes of self-reflection and overcoming limiting beliefs to planning transformative events like the upcoming Talent Development Think Tank conference, this episode is packed with insights to help you thrive in your career.Michael Bungay Stanier is best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century and recognized as a classic. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work.Michael was a Rhodes Scholar, and was recently awarded the coaching prize by Thinkers50, “the Oscars of management”. Michael is also a regular writer and keynote speaker and he has appeared twice previously on this podcast:Ep 107: The Coaching Habit with MBS - June 2019Ep 162: How to Avoid the Advice Trap - May 2020Connect with Andy Storch:WebsiteLinkedInJoin us in the Talent Development Think Tank Community!Join us at the Talent Development Think Tank ConferenceConnect with Michael Bungay Stanier:LinkedInWebsite
On the 75th episode of the What is a Good Life? podcast, I am delighted to introduce our guest, Michael Bungay Stanier. Michael is best known for his book The Coaching Habit, which has sold over a million copies. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to create psychological safety by building the Best Possible Relationship with key people at work. He founded Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that has trained hundreds of thousands of managers to be more coach-like. He was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University and recently won the coaching award from Thinkers50.In this insightful conversation, Michael shares the origin and meaning of his big goal of infecting a billion people with the possibility virus and the significance of feeling deeply defeated by ever greater things. He notes the importance of sharing the spotlight with others, maintaining humility while knowing what we are good at, and amplifying that. Throughout this conversation, he highlights the inherent value and worth of us all as human beings and his desire to embolden people by making them more aware of this truth.If you sense you are playing it too safe or are fearful of what potential failure may say about you or your value as a person, this conversation will offer perspectives, experiences, and anecdotes that may liberate you to live more of the life you are yearning for and that is much more possible than you think.Subscribe for weekly episodes, every Tuesday, and check out my YouTube channel (link below) for clips and shorts.For further content and information check out the following:Michael's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier/Michael's website: https://www.mbs.works/The Coaching Habit: https://www.mbs.works/coaching-habit-book/#buyHow to Work with (almost) Anyone: https://www.mbs.works/how-to-work-with-almost-anyone-book/- For the podcast's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@whatisagoodlife/videos- My newsletter: https://www.whatisagood.life/- My LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-mccartney-14b0161b4/Contact me at mark@whatisagood.life if you'd like to further explore your own lines of self-inquiry or create experiences that lead to more connecting and genuine conversations amongst groups of people.Running Order:03:02 Wrestling with angels08:41 Infecting a billion people with the possibility virus12:07 Allowing others to take the spot light15:42 Humility in success and our strengths18:45 You're awesome and you're doing great23:17 An awareness of the bigger picture and paradox31:22 Engaging with emotions and men's work34:37 Having a healthy relationship with failure38:07 Reflections on authenticity and amplifying your difference47:37 The gift of feeling worthy51:37 What is a good life for Michael?
Send us a Text Message.On this episode of The Get Ready Money Podcast, I was joined by Joy Loverde and Cathy Sikorski who are both authors and speakers to talk about changing the way we think about money and caregiving. Here's what we discussed: Plan, plan and then go ahead and plan moreWhy quality of life is the most important thing. Asking for advice is a great way to start the conversation It's okay to say that you won't be the caregiver Where you live mattersJoy Loverde is the best-selling author of The Complete Eldercare Planner and Who Will Take Care of Me When I'm Old? A seasoned keynote speaker and brand ambassador for the senior-living industry, Joy's appearances include the Today show, CBS Early Show, ABC News, and NPR. She is quoted in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Time Magazine, and others. Joy works with the senior-housing industry and other professionals as a mature-market consultant.Cathy Sikorski, Esq. a Speaker, Elder Lawyer, Author and Media Guest unravels the complex financial and legal problems in the caregiving crisis. Cathy uses her own caregiver experience and expertise to educate, entertain and elevate the conversation around work, money, aging and caregiving. In October 2021, Corner Office Books released her latest book 12 Conversations: How to Talk to Almost Anyone about Long-Term Care Planning.Connect with Joy Loverde: Website: https://elderindustry.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joyloverde/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083485643213Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joyloverde/Connect with Cathy Sikorski:Website: https://cathysikorski.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathysikorski24/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cathy_sikorskiBooks: Joy Loverde:The Complete Eldercare Planner, Revised and Updated 4th Edition: Where to Start, Which Questions to Ask, and How to Find Help (Amazon)Who Will Take Care of Me When I'm Old?: Plan Now to Safeguard Your Health and Happiness in Old Age (Amazon)Cathy Sikorski: Who Moved My Teeth?: Preparing For Self, Loved Ones And Caregiving (Amazon) 12 Conversations: How To Talk to Almost Anyone About Long-Term Care Planning (Amazon) Showering With Nana: Confessions Of A Serial Caregiver (Amazon)
About This EpisodeJoin us as we sit down with Michael Bungay Stanier, the celebrated author of several books including The Coaching Habit, to explore the essence of committing to being bold. Michael shares invaluable insights and personal anecdotes that spotlight the importance of taking pragmatic risk and understanding what is most important to you. As we discuss his latest book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, we delve into the significance of building psychological safety in professional relationships. Discover practical advice to enhance your collaboration skills and effectively navigate the complexities of organizational dynamics. You'll also hear the secrets of developing leadership skills through self-coaching. He discusses how to stay curious, resist the urge to give immediate advice, and use techniques like journaling to foster self-awareness and clarity. Michael's bold mindset and inspiring journey will leave you motivated to embrace your own path and make a positive impact in your world. About Michael Bungay StanierMichael Bungay Stanier is best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century and recognized as a classic. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work. He founded Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that has trained hundreds of thousands of managers to be more coach-like in organizations from Microsoft to Gucci. Michael was a Rhodes Scholar, and was recently awarded the coaching prize by Thinkers50, “the Oscars of management”. Additional ResourcesWebsite: www.MBS.worksInstagram: @mbs_worksLinkedIn: @MichaelBungayStanier
The Big 12 is a league that feels like anyone could win, and Ari Temkin from Big 12 Radio on Sirius XM joins us to preview each and every team of the league. We take a DEEP DIVE into the Big 12 here (0:00-2:01) Intro (2:02-8:30) Ari Temkin Joins (8:31-15:57) Arizona Wildcats (15:58-22:23) Arizona State Sun Devils (22:24-29:08) Baylor Bears (29:09-34:01) Cincinnati Bearcats (34:02-40:14) BYU Cougars (40:15-49:31) Colorado Buffaloes (49:32-52:51) Houston Cougars (52:52-56:43) Iowa State Cyclones (56:44-1:03:34) Kansas Jayhawks (1:03:35-1:08:10) Kansas State Wildcats (1:08:11-1:11:49) Oklahoma State Cowboys (1:11:50-1:15:27) TCU Horned Frogs (1:15:28-1:20:55) Texas Tech Red Raiders (1:20:56-1:25:35) UCF Knights (1:25:36-1:28:46) Utah Utes (1:28:47-1:32:38) West Virginia Mountaineers (1:32:39-1:25:04) Top 3 Big 12 Games (1:25:05-1:35:40) Wrapping Up Want to watch the show instead? Join us LIVE, M-F, at 8 am et! https://www.youtube.com/@On3sports Host: Andy Staples Guest: Ari Temkin Producer: River Bailey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How do we work with anyone? How do we start to grasp culture change? To answer these questions and more, Michael Bungay Stanier, Author of The Coaching Habit, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. Founder of MBS Works & Box of Crayons, joins Rob Kalwarowsky from Elite High Performance. Would it be crazy if you hit your goals and felt better doing it? Check out www.elitehighperformance.com for private coaching and corporate development programs that will do just that. Make your life easier and hit your goals right now. Find Michael Bungay Stanier at the following links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier/ https://www.mbs.works/ https://boxofcrayons.com/ Find Rob Kalwarowsky, World-Renowned Leadership Coach & TEDx Speaker, at the following links: www.elitehighperformance.com https://www.howtodealboss.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-kalwarowsky/ https://www.instagram.com/bosscoachrobk/ https://www.tiktok.com/@bosscoachrobk --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/leadershiplaunchpad/message
In my latest conversation with Michael Bungay Stanier, we delve into the transformative power of a simple mindset shift. Michael, a coaching guru who swears by 'Success Through Subtraction,' shares his insights on letting go to grow, both personally and professionally. We discuss the importance of choosing engagements that align with our highest standards and delve into the dynamics of productive relationships, both at work and in life. Let's dive in.On today's episode of The CLS Experience, we have a very exclusive treat. He's a force for change, a disruptor in the world of coaching, and a beacon of innovation, Big facts. Known as the #1 Thought Leader in Coaching, he is the author of several books, including the hit bestseller "The Coaching Habit" which has garnered accolades and endorsements from industry leaders worldwide, no big deal. His newest title, "How to Work with (Almost) Anyone", is already making waves in the coaching community, AND beyond his literary contributions, he's the visionary founder of Box of Crayons, a groundbreaking learning and development company that's shifted organizations like Microsoft and Gucci from being advice-driven to curiosity-led. Having trained hundreds of thousands to be more coach-like, his impact is undeniable. We confront the 'advice monster' and discuss ways to empower others through strategic questioning, fostering autonomy and progress. He's just a juggernaut in all facets of life and an extraordinary human being. Please welcome the insightful, transformative, and game-changing Michael Bungay Stanier, MBS. 8:11 - Finding Your Worthy Goals and Relationships 15:33 - Relationships 23:55 - Building Strong Relationships Through Effective Communication 30:37 - The Power of Curiosity in Coaching 42:58 - Value of Coaching Conversations 56:21 - Spreading WingsGrab a copy of Michael's Book and His New Training Here: https://TCHlive.comTo join our community click here.➤ To connect with Michael Bungay Stanier follow Michael on Instagram➤ Get your free build your million dollar network blueprint Here! ➤ Order a copy of my new book The Reinvention Formula today! ➤ Join our CLS texting community for free daily inspiration and business strategies to elevate your day, text (917) 634-3796To follow The CLS Experience and connect with Craig on Social Media:➤ INSTAGRAM➤ FACEBOOK➤ TIKTOK➤ YOUTUBE➤ WEBSITE➤ LINKEDIN➤ TWITTER
My guest today is author of a few good books including, How to work with almost anyone, How to Begin, The Advice Trap and the one we all know and love, The Coaching Habit, Say Less, Ask More & Change the Way You Lead Forever. Michael Bungay Stanier has a gift for distilling big, complex ideas into practical, accessible knowledge for everyday people that helps them be a force for good.His books have sold over a million copies, with The Coaching Habit topping The Wall Street Journal bestseller list. MBS has been featured on the blogs and social media platforms of thought leaders including Seth Godin, Tim Ferriss, and Brené Brown, and has appeared on ABC, BBC, CBC, Ted.com, and innumerable podcasts--as well as in notable publications including the Harvard Business Review, Forbes, Inc., and Fast Company. MBS is the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company, that helps organizations move from advice-driven action to curiosity-led transformation. They have trained more than half a million people for clients including Microsoft, Salesforce, TELUS, and Gucci. Before establishing Box of Crayons, MBS's accomplishments included publishing an academic article on James Joyce and a Harlequin-esque short story; playing small roles in helping invent Pizza Hut's Stuffed Crust pizza and creating "one of the worst single-malt whiskies in existence"; and spending 20 minutes writing what has remained GlaxoSmithKline's global vision for more than 20 years. A former Rhodes Scholar, MBS is an Australian who now lives in Toronto, Canada. This show is dedicated to Michael's journey, this conversation is what we make it. This is Counsel Culture. Learn more at www.ericbrooker.com | www.mbs.works | www.bestpossiblerelationship.com
Be sure to visit https://dwtbpodcast.com for more information and add your name to start receiving their newsletter. If you'd like to support this show, rate, subscribe and leave a review on your podcast app.Books/Resources Mentioned:E-Myth, by Michael GerberWishcraft, by Barbara SherNever Lose an Employee Again, by Joey ColemanHow to Work with (Almost) Anyone, Michael Bungay StanierBuilding a StoryBrand, by Don MillerJulian Winters, NYT Bestselling Young Adult author Connect with AJ & Mike:AJ Harper: https://ajharper.comWrite A Must-Read: https://a.co/d/4H0xQ7GFree resources: https://writeamustread.comSocials:FB: https://www.facebook.com/AJHarperAuthorsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anjanetteharper/ Mike Michalowicz: https://mikemichalowicz.comAll books: https://mikemichalowicz.com/books/Socials: IG: https://www.instagram.com/mikemichalowicz/FB: https://www.facebook.com/MikeMichalowiczFanPage/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemichalowicz/
Michael Bungay Stanier is best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century and recognized as a classic. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work. Michael was a Rhodes Scholar, and was recently awarded the coaching prize by Thinkers50, “the Oscars of management”.Learn more at www.MBS.works.
A key part of being an effective HR practitioner is about building strong, strategic and trusting relationships with key stakeholders in order to build your influence and help move your organisation towards its goals. In this episode, coaching expert and author Michael Bungay Stanier shares insights from his latest book 'How to work with (almost) anyone' and provides listeners with insights to make their relationships at work stronger and more resilient. SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK: Take our 2-minute survey to share your thoughts on seasons one and two of AHRI: https://bit.ly/3BjN5Ey SHOW NOTES
Michael Bungay Stanier is at the forefront of shaping how organizations around the world make being coach-like an essential leadership competency. He is the author behind The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work. In his conversation with Ryan, Michael dives into some of his best advice for writing a “really good” book that not only educates readers, but gives them an audible chuckle in the process. He also shares his next daring adventure, climbing the fiery volcano known as Cotopaxi, and reveals the secrets of nurturing ideas to fruition by letting them “ripen” on the vine. Throughout the episode, Michael reminds us that the greatest risks often yield the most rewarding outcomes and that "You're awesome and you're doing great."
Empathy is a superpower, yes, but what about those people you just truly believe are unbearable to work or talk with? I know someone is coming to mind for you. And how much more complicated does it get when you work for that someone, or they work for you?Today, I am delighted to share my conversation with leadership coach, speaker, and best-selling author Michael Bungay Stanier. Michael and I talked about the difference between leadership and coaching and the role empathy and curiosity play in those skills, why so many leaders misunderstand what coaching means, why rescuers create victims and the importance of learning how to listen. He shares the key to having Keystone Conversations to create a better working relationship. And he shares five questions that will help you build the best possible relationship with almost anyone - and why he says "almost!" Plus, we had a love fest for our mutual publisher, Page Two. Michael is a legend and as kind and generous as they come. Take a listen. To access the episode transcript, please click on the episode title at www.TheEmpathyEdge.com Key Takeaways:There are six different leadership styles, and the greatest leaders know how to utilize each of them at the appropriate times. If you're a leader, your job is to help figure out what the right stuff is to work on, and then help get the best people to do their best work working on the stuff that matters.Rescuer behavior appears to be empathetic and kind, but it's actually being nosy and it hurts more than it help others in adult-to-adult relationships. You are doing the work of leading when you're doing the work of self-care and self-reflection. "I do believe…that every working relationship can be better. If you could make all of them 10-15% better, that would make a difference, because not just your success at work, but your happiness at work is dependent on the quality of your working relationships." — Michael Bungay StanierEpisode References: The Empathy Edge podcast: Shasta Nelson: Why Successful Leaders Encourage Work FriendshipsAccountability and Empathy (Are Not Mutually Exclusive) by Ed BatistaPage Two PublishingBrand Story Breakthrough course to help you craft a clear, compelling brand story - includes weekly office hours with Maria!About Michael Bungay Stanier:Michael Bungay Stanier is best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century and recognized as a classic. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work. Michael was a Rhodes Scholar, and was recently awarded the coaching prize by Thinkers50, “the Oscars of Management.”Connect with Michael Bungay Stanier: MBS.works: https://www.mbs.works/ X: https://www.twitter.com/mbs_works LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mbs_works-113849977032317 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mbs_works Book: How to Work with (Almost) Anyone: Five Questions for Building the Best Possible RelationshipsCheck out a FREE Video example of Michael's Keystone Conversation at: https://bestpossiblerelationship.com/ Join the tribe, download your free guide! Discover what empathy can do for you: http://red-slice.com/business-benefits-empathy Connect with Maria: Get the podcast and book: TheEmpathyEdge.comLearn more about Maria and her work: Red-Slice.comHire Maria to speak at your next event: Red-Slice.com/Speaker-Maria-RossTake my LinkedIn Learning Course! Leading with EmpathyLinkedIn: Maria RossInstagram: @redslicemariaX: @redsliceFacebook: Red SliceThreads: @redslicemaria
Nikki Haley's husband is not a combat soldier. Mark interviews streaming host Bill O'Reilly: Bill and Mark talked about how the 2024 election will be the most bizarre ever. They also hit on Jon Stewart mocking Joe Biden to the dismay of liberals.
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Order Now: How to Work with (Almost) Anyone: Five Questions for Building the Best Possible Relationships https://www.amazon.com/Almost-Anyone-Michael-Bungay-Stanier/dp/1774582651/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1687463911&sr=1-1 Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/services/workshops/ Buy Now The Book: The Coaching Habit: Say Less Ask More & Change the Way You Lead Forever https://www.amazon.com/Coaching-Habit-Less-Change-Forever/dp/B0C3D25L89/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1687463856&sr=8-1 In this episode, negotiation expert Kwame Christian sits down with Michael Bungay Stanier, bestselling author and coaching guru. They delve into the secrets of building thriving working relationships through the power of five essential questions. Gain actionable insights and unlock the key to successful communication and collaboration. Don't miss out on this episode that will transform your approach to relationships. Key Takeaways: Learn five essential questions that can transform your working relationships. Discover practical strategies to prepare, maintain, and enhance connections with colleagues, clients, and superiors. Gain insights from renowned coach Michael Bungay Stanier on building thriving working relationships that lead to success. Michael Bungay Stanier helps people know they're awesome and they're doing great. He's best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century and recognized as a classic. His most recent book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, shows how to build the Best Possible Relationship with the key people at work. Michael was a Rhodes Scholar. He's Australian, and lives in Toronto, Canada. Learn more at www.MBS.works. Pre-Order Now: How to Work with (Almost) Anyone: Five Questions for Building the Best Possible Relationships https://www.amazon.com/Almost-Anyone-Michael-Bungay-Stanier/dp/1774582651/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1687463911&sr=1-1 Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/services/workshops/ Michael's website: https://www.mbs.works Buy Now The Book: The Coaching Habit: Say Less Ask More & Change the Way You Lead Forever https://www.amazon.com/Coaching-Habit-Less-Change-Forever/dp/B0C3D25L89/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1687463856&sr=8-1 Pre-Order Now: How to Work with (Almost) Anyone: Five Questions for Building the Best Possible Relationships https://www.amazon.com/Almost-Anyone-Michael-Bungay-Stanier/dp/1774582651/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1687463911&sr=1-1 Follow Michael Bungay Stanier on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwamechristian/ The Ultimate Negotiation Guide: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/guides/ultimate-negotiation-guide/ Click here to buy your copy of How To Have Difficult Conversations About Race!: https://www.amazon.com/Have-Difficult-Conversations-About-Race/dp/1637741308/ref=pd_%5B%E2%80%A6%5Df0bc9774-7975-448b-bde1-094cab455adb&pd_rd_i=1637741308&psc=1 Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Confidence-Conflict-Negotiate-Anything/dp/0578413736/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PSW69L6ABTK&keywords=finding+confidence+in+conflict&qid=1667317257&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjQyIiwicXNhIjoiMC4xNCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMjMifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=finding+confidence+in+conflic%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-1
Do you ever wonder how to build effective, lasting relationships in your professional life? Today on The ONE Thing Podcast, we're diving into this crucial topic with none other than Michael Bungay Stanier, a name many of you are already familiar with. Michael, acclaimed for his best-selling book "The Coaching Habit," a favorite in my own collection and hailed as the best selling coaching book of the century, joins us to share his wisdom. His latest work, "How to Work with Almost Anyone," cleverly titled "*Almost Anyone," reveals the secrets to forging the best possible relationships with key colleagues and clients.As a Rhodes Scholar and the recent recipient of the prestigious Coaching Prize by Thinkers 50, widely regarded as the Oscars of Management, Michael's insights are invaluable for anyone looking to enhance their professional connections. Whether you're a seasoned executive or just starting your career, understanding how to navigate and nurture workplace relationships is key to success.So, if you're looking to transform your work relationships and create a more fulfilling professional life, tune in to this insightful discussion with Michael Bungay Stanier. Let's unravel the art of building impactful relationships at work, right here, on The ONE Thing.To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: the1thing.com/pods.We talk about:How to build successful workplace relationshipsStrategies for forging effective and lasting connections with colleagues and clientsThe importance of nurturing professional relationships for career advancement and personal fulfillmentPractical tips and tools for improving communication and collaboration in a professional settingLinks & Tools from This Episode:Learn more at mbs.worksRead: How to Work with (Almost) AnyoneFollow Michael on Instagram: @mbs_worksConnect with Michael on LinkedInFree ResourcesWant to be a guest or share feedback? Email podcast@the1thing.comProduced by NOVA Media
Welcome to the What's Next! Podcast with Tiffani Bova. Today I have the privilege of welcoming Michael Bungay Stanier, otherwise known as MBS, to the show. Despite being virtual friends for a long time, we only recently had the chance to meet in person at the Thinkers50 event, where Michael won a coaching award. If you've never met, I'm so delighted to introduce you to Michael. He's best known for his book The Coaching Habit, which is the bestselling book on coaching this century and is considered a classic by none other than Seth Godin. His most recent book is How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. He founded Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that has trained hundreds of thousands of managers to be more coach-like in organizations, from Microsoft to Gucci. His TEDx Talk has been viewed by more than a million people. THIS EPISODE IS PERFECT FOR… anyone who wants to approach professional relationships more actively and intentionally. TODAY'S MAIN MESSAGE… sometimes work relationships have great chemistry - you get along with your manager or team and are excited about working together. Although it's an ideal situation, that's rarely the case. In this episode, Michael shares his strategies for building the best possible relationships with the people you work with. WHAT I LOVE MOST… taking a step back to learn about how we and the people around us work so that together we can amplify the best of who we are and avoid the worst of who we are. Running Time: 30:28 Subscribe on iTunes Find Tiffani Online: Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Find Michael Online: Website LinkedIn Instagram Michael's Book: How to Work with (Almost) Anyone
Don't leave your work relationships to chance! Take control and actively shape them to be the best they can be. Relationships are not by accident, yet most of us treat them like they are, particularly regarding work relationships. But what if that's not true? What if you could actively shape those relationships to become the best possible relationships? How might that impact the quality of your life? Today's guest is returning champion Michael Bungay Stanier, MBS. He's best known for his book, The Coaching Habit, with over 1 million copies sold and over 10,005 star reviews on Amazon. It's the bestselling coaching book of the century. However, on this episode, we will dive into his most recent book, How to Work with "Almost" Anyone, which shows us how to build the best possible relationships with the key people we have at work. Join MBS as he shares his insights on building stronger relationships in the workplace. Tune in to this episode to discover how you can improve the quality of your life by improving the quality of your work relationships. Website: https://www.mbs.works Social Media https://www.facebook.com/mbs_works-113849977032317 https://twitter.com/mbs_works https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier/ https://www.instagram.com/mbs_works/ Part 2. Your Best Possible Relationships Building The Best Possible Relationships with (almost) Anyone The Three Core Attributes to The BPR, (Best Possible Relationship) What is Psychological Safety and Have We Gone Too Far? Bringing Vitality To Your Relationships To Safe, To Boring Creating an Environment of Psychological Bravery Repairing Relationships The Power and Value of Healthy Conflict Getting The Ego Out of The Way Stopping The Drama Triangle Active or Reactive That is the Question? Curiosity as The Path to Love What is a Keystone Conversation, and How to Have One What's Your Best, When Do You Shine or Flow? What Are Your Practices and Preferences? (logistic-what do you do, what do you use?) Clarifying Good Days and Bad Days Recognizing Past Patterns Deciding How We'll Fix It When Things Go Wrong? The Upside Verse the Downside of Risk What If You Could Make This 15% Less Bad? Why Every Relationship That Matters Will Go Off the Rails Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is separated into eight sections that will take you by the hand and walk you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS. Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Curious to know more? coursifyx.com/belonging "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #videopodcast #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior #purpose
In this episode, Caleb talks with Michael Bungay Stanier about his book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone and more.Links MentionedMichael Bungay StanierHow to Work with (Almost) Anyone: Five Questions for Building the Best Possible Relationships by Michael Bungay StanierCaleb's Substack
Consider this: Relationships are not by accident, while yet most of us treat them like they are, particularly regarding work relationships. We tend to think I applied for the job and got the relationships as a roll of the dice. But what if that's not true? What if you could actively shape those relationships to become the best possible relationships? How might that impact the quality of your life? Today's guest is returning champion Michael Bungay Stanier, also known as MBS. He's best known for his book, The Coaching Habit, with over 1 million copies sold and over 10,005 star reviews on Amazon. It's the bestselling coaching book of the century. However, on this episode, we will dive into his most recent book, How to Work with, "Almost" Anyone, which shows us how to build the best possible relationships with the key people we have at work. Website: https://www.mbs.works Social Media https://www.facebook.com/mbs_works-113849977032317 https://twitter.com/mbs_works https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier/ https://www.instagram.com/mbs_works/ Part 1. Curiosity and Creating Social Contracts Embracing "Almost" There is no "One Size Fits All" Showing the World You Can Hop? Reigning in Eldest Child Syndrome Synchronized Nude Male Modelling for Coaches? How to Bore and Intimidate Your Audience The Introduction to Coaching: Volunteering for The Crisis Line Creating Space to Explore Relationships The 3 Stages of Entrepreneurship, Where are You? When Someone Else Wants to Write The Book You've Been Putting Off The 6th Time is a Charm... If You Are Betting on Yourself! Unlocking Greatness 1.2 million and a Sprinkle of Fairy Dust Confronting The Bastardization of Coaching Creating Social Contracts Curiosity as The Bedrock of Coaching and Relationships I and Thou or Transactional Relationship Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is separated into eight sections that will take you by the hand and walk you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS. Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Curious to know more? coursifyx.com/belonging "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #videopodcast #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior #purpose
Are you good at talking to people?Most of us do ok, but are there any situations that make you feel awkward? Like, talking to children or very opinionated people?Here are some tips, techniques and mindsets from some of the best: A stand-up comedian, a multi-topic podcast producer and co-host, a youth empowering "Queen of Goofiness," and a moderator of public forums on frequently sensitive topics.A star-studded, idea-packed episode to help us all become better at communicating, listening, and talking to (almost) anyone.This episode is sponsored by: https://www.mandatetoelevate.com/You can also support the show through the link where you are listening to this or by going to zensammich.com.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/zen-sammich/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Working with others is harder than it should be, and we know good relationships are essential for team and organizational success. Michael Bungay Stanier recognizes it's easy to jump into the work. However, he joins Kevin to discuss the importance of the process and agree on how to do the work first. He suggests having a “keystone conversation” to build mutual understanding before starting a project. He suggests 5 questions to ask, these include: Amplify questions - what's your best? Steady questions – what are your practices or preferences? Good Date and Bad Date questions – what did you learn from past successful and frustrating relationships? Repair questions – how do we fix it when things go wrong? Meet Michael Name: Michael Bungay Stanier His Story: https://www.bestpossiblerelationship.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier https://www.twitter.com/mbs_works
Michael Bungay Stanier is an author of several best selling books including the Coaching Habit which has sold over 1 million copies. He is also a Rhodes Scholar, created of Box of Crayons, and keynote speaker. MBS has made a major impact on my life both personally and professionally and it's always an honor to learn from him.Topics-Why curiosity is a super power-What makes a GREAT question-Understanding the keystone conversation-Coaching the person AND the player-How to create a safe environment for your athletes-6 keys to maintain great relationshipsGet your FREE download of the Top 30 books written by Mindset Advantage Guests at www.djhillier.com/30booksGet your FREE sample of LMNT at www.drinkLMNT.com/mindsetadvantageIf you found value in this episode be sure to leave a rating, review, and share it on your social medias.
Michael Bungay Stanier has a gift for distilling big, complex ideas into practical, accessible knowledge for everyday people that helps them be a force for good.His books have sold over a million copies, with The Coaching Habit topping the Wall Street Journal bestseller list. MBS has been featured on the blogs and social media platforms of thought leaders including Seth Godin, Tim Ferriss, and Brené Brown, and has appeared on ABC, BBC, CBC, Ted.com, and innumerable podcasts―as well as in notable publications including the Harvard Business Review, Forbes, Inc., and Fast Company.MBS is the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company, that helps organizations move from advice-driven action to curiosity-led transformation. They have trained more than half a million people for clients including Microsoft, Salesforce, TELUS and Gucci.Before establishing Box of Crayons, MBS's accomplishments included publishing an academic article on James Joyce and a Harlequin-esque short story; playing small roles in helping invent Pizza Hut's Stuffed Crust pizza and creating “one of the worst single-malt whiskies in existence”; and spending 20 minutes writing what has remained GlaxoSmithKline's global vision for more than 20 years.A former Rhodes Scholar, MBS is an Australian who now lives in Toronto, Canada.You can join others committed to being a force for change at MBS.worksLink to claim CME credit: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3DXCFW3CME credit is available for up to 3 years after the stated release dateContact CEOD@bmhcc.org if you have any questions about claiming credit.
Hello beautiful souls! Today, Michael Bungay Stanier (thought-leader, speaker, and best-selling author including the book How to Work with (Almost) Anyone) joins me as we dive into his insights on all relationships and how to bring greater understanding between all parties involved. Michael begins by prompting a thought-provoking exploration of the risks versus price we pay by staying silent in situations. We discuss how to manage what's within our control to embracing opportunities to grow our connections with others. Tune into this fun yet insightful conversation that offers practical solutions for helping your own relationships get stronger. To learn more about Michael Bungay Stanier and his work: mbs.works His book How to Work with (Almost) Anyone is available at BestPossibleRelationship.com [IG] Mbs_works Click HERE to watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/EP9AnTHTxi0 Click HERE to read a transcript of this episode: https://theangelmedium.com/angelmembership Angel Reiki School: https://theangelmedium.com/get-certified Book A Session: https://theangelmedium.com/readings Buy Julie's Book, Angels and Awakening, on Amazon.com Don't know where to start? Book a discovery call with Julie: https://calendly.com/juliejancius/discovery-call FREEBIES Angel Newsletter: www.theangelmedium.com Angels and Awakening Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/angels-and-awakening/id1451424894 World's Largest Prayer Network: https://www.worldslargestprayernetwork.com/ Intuitive Kids Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1650866422 SOCIAL MEDIA Watch out for scammers who impersonate Julie's accounts. Julie will never DM you for a session. All purchases go through www.theangelmedium.com. Instagram: http://instagram.com/angelpodcast/ TikTok: @angelpodcast Facebook Group: http://facebook.com/groups/angelpodcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/juliejancius DRAWING WINNER Leave a 5-star positive review of this show or Julie's book, to be entered into a drawing to win a free session.
Up next in Signature Stories, we're joined by Michael Bungay Stanier, speaker, coach and author of the wildly popular book "The Coaching Habit" and the brand new book, "How to Work with (Almost) Anyone." Michael sits down with Jay to share a story about a very bad job. Jay and MBS dive into how to use open loops, comedy in storytelling, and crafting tiny stories to create a sense of safety for your audience -- plus, they add some seasoning to the main ingredients of Michael's story to make it tastier.Throughout this series, we'll learn from how inspiring creators and experts craft their most valuable, most original stories that build connection and resonate deeply. We're putting on display the hidden details, tiny choices, and emotional moments, as we seek to go beyond telling stories to instead BECOME storytellers.BECOME A STRONGER STORYTELLER:Subscribe to my free newsletter. Every other week, get a new story/framework to help you stand out easier and resonate deeper with your work: jayacunzo.com/newsletterCRAFT A PODCAST YOU'RE PROUD TO CALL YOURS:Work with me one-on-one to develop or improve a show that stands out easier and resonates deeper. Using your creativity, NOT your budget, you'll walk away with an irresistible premise and format – and the on-mic skills to tell stories and conduct interviews that grip and inspire them.Book an hour now or learn more about my coaching and collaboration.JOIN THE CREATOR KITCHEN MASTERMIND:Connect with Jay and peers who care deeply about the craft: The Creator Kitchen is a mastermind of content creators learning to ship higher-impact work. We help you see the possibilities, decide the best approach, and execute with clarity + confidence on your most important projects.Learn more about membership – plus get some free samples – at creatorkitchen.com***IN THIS EPISODE:Michael Bungay Stanier: author of "The Coach Habit", podcast host and keynote speaker ***PRODUCTION CREDITS:- Creator, host, writer, editor: Jay Acunzo- Producer and researcher: Ilana Nevins
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast: Lead Like Never Before
Michael Bungay Stanier is back on the podcast! In his time with Carey, Michael outlines his strategy on how to work with (almost) anyone and why toxic people don't have to ruin your experience at work. He shares unusual habits that can help you thrive, and how to ignore the hype cycle to focus on what really matters in relationships. "You're awesome and you're doing great!" Show Notes On The Rise Newsletter Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
This week's guest wrote a book that is considered to be the best coaching book of the century. He and I spoke about that book here several years ago. His latest book is another winner in my view. His name is Michael Bungay Stanier and the book is How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. The […] The post 489: How to Work with (Almost) Anyone with Michael Bungay Stanier first appeared on Read to Lead Podcast.
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The Smart Passive Income Online Business and Blogging Podcast
#695 You go through a honeymoon phase with every person in your life. Business partners, co-workers, and clients are no exception. Of course, these connections are critical to your success as an entrepreneur! So what can you do to keep the spark alive in the boardroom and maintain the best possible version of your working relationships? Joining me today is Michael Bungay Stanier, bestselling author of The Coaching Habit. This favorite of mine has massively impacted how we do business at SPI. His new book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, uncovers the one essential conversation and five powerful questions to help you master relationship-building. Today, Michael shares why your most successful connections should be safe, vital, and repairable. He and I explore the value of knowing yourself, the signals to break off unhealthy relationships, and screwing up as a way to increase customer loyalty. Tune in because Michael's advice will supercharge your communication skills! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/session695.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
There are some people who can take the most difficult situations and find the humor in them. Cathy Sikorski is one of those people. I met her several years ago at a midlife bloggers association meeting and became an instant admirer. She's written a blog for years dedicated to examining the hard and hilarious life of caregiving, which she's done herself for the last twenty years. In addition to that, she's a practicing dealing largely in Elder Law and in today's episode, has all kinds of personal and professional/legal advice to pass on to you. She's the author of several books, the first being “Showering with Nana." Today we're going to discuss two more that outline very eloquently how to talk to your loved ones about their end of life plans – or what needs to happen when dementia is in the picture: Who Moved My Teeth and Twelve Conversations: How to Talk to Almost Anyone about Long-Term Care Planning. Not the most “fun” conversation to have – but vital ones. Our Advertisers Links! 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You'll have 90 seconds to do so and that time goes quickly. By recording, you're giving SelfWork (and me) permission to use your voice on the podcast. I'll look forward to hearing from you! Episode Transcript Speaker 1: Well, you and I have known each other, Kathy, gosh, for 10 years. Maybe a Speaker 2: Long, I, I know a long time. We've grown up a lot in the years that it's been, so I'm gonna go Yeah. A long time Speaker 1: . Yeah. A long time. Well, I think I met you, uh, when we were all meeting at Midlife Boulevard and that kind of thing. Right? Right. Speaker 2: Yep. That's what I remember in that, in Nashville, I'm gonna say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: That huge hotel ...Yeah. It was great. And I have loved your work since, um, tried to have you on as one of the first guests of self-work, and I had no idea what I was doing technically, and I botched it, and I practically was in tears and said, I'll have to have you back on. And six years later, here we are, Speaker 2: , hey. But you know, a lot has happened in six years, and honestly Right. This is the universe because now is a really good time for us to talk. Yes, I have, and you have refocused our work many times. Right. And the refocus has helped us be better, um, Sherpa's for people in women especially, but people, uh, in what we're trying the message that we're trying to get out. Right. And so, I'm happy that it took six years. I, I, I, yeah. Really am, because I'm better focused about what I wanna say. Speaker 1: Well, you are incredibly kind. Your first book that I read was showering with Nana. Yeah. And I, it brought tears to my eyes, and I, I just loved that book. Speaker 2: Speaker 1: Well, for those of you who don't know, Kathy Sikorski's work, basically, I mean, she's, she's gone. And I want you to tell your story, but you've gone from being someone who was caring for a lot as I understand it, gone from a family member, a friend who was caring for a lot of people who were getting older and having those kinds of problems to then you earned your elder law degree and, and really have changed your whole life. And so I greatly admire that because it's, it's something where you have said, let me take what life has given me and then be able to have the experience on a lot of different levels, both personal and professional, so that I can really help other people. And I wanted you on, because I think this is so important, um, that we talk about, um, elder care and, um, everything you talk about, you have two new books, uh, that you sent fairly New, who Moved My Teeth, which I, after I read this, I peppered my husband with questions about, do we have that? Do we have this, do we have this? Um, and then I, I read until about 10 30 last night, uh, 12 conversations, how to talk to almost anyone about long-term planning. And so I have both of those books here with questions. Uh, so tell us a little bit about your story first. Speaker 2: So, so, yeah. I'm so happy that you brought up the fact that my life, what happened in my life, really informed and changed the way I decided to have a career. Yeah. Because I think, especially women, we get very feeling trampled down about what life is throwing at us and how we can't go do the thing we thought we wanted to do, or what we should be doing, or how we thought life should let us do this. That's right. Thing. Right. We feel very trampled by, by caregiving, by caring for our children, our parents, our, our, our spouses or whatever. And yet, it's an expectation that right or wrong, and a lot of times wrong, comes with just being a female, right? Mm-hmm. . Speaker 2: And so, I, I, I became a caregiver for eight different family and friends over the last 30 years. And honestly, this is a job for me that happened out of certainly love and respect for people in my life. My grandmother, my aunts, my, you know, my very good friend who fell down a flight of stairs and had no one to care for her, and had a traumatic brain injury. My brother-in-law, my sister passed away, and he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, the worst possible kind. And so I became his primary caregiver. So my only point being about that, that you made, which was, there were times when I was mad about that. Like, this isn't what I wanna be doing. This isn't what I think my life is supposed to be about. Right. I have dreams, I have aspirations. And it turns out that that's exactly what my dreams and aspirations were all about. It was taking my life experience and turning it into the person I wanted to be, which was this speaker, author, educator about something really important that I learned that I could share with people to help make their lives better. Speaker 1: Was that even close to anything that you had predicted or dreamed or wondered about that maybe that's the direction your life would go? Was it anywhere close? Speaker 2: No. Well, I didn't know it, but yes, because here's the thing. I wanted to be an actress. Okay? I was a theater major in college , um, for a couple years. And then I realized two things. I had a boyfriend. I couldn't spend any time with him, and I didn't, wasn't sure I could make any money being an actress, right? It, it, it's the poor girl's way to, to go about it. Maybe, I don't know. Lots of people make money and lots of money, but, so then my other dream was to be a lawyer, which is exactly what I did. Um, but in my mind it was the, the Clarence Darrow, the, you know, the big trial lawyer who's gonna save and help people by, you know, making these great trial things where, like you see on television the big surprise ending, whatever, all of which, of course has an acting component to it. May I add, right? Speaker 1: ? Of course. Speaker 2: So what that means for me, really what that meant for me is two things. I really wanted to help people, and I wanted to be in front of audiences in some fashion, right? Mm-hmm. and Margaret, that's exactly what I do. Wow. That's exactly what I do. Exactly. Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. Mm-hmm. , it's giving me goosebumps. Speaker 2: Me too. . Speaker 1: And that's, you know, how when you say you got angry about it, it, it's, I mean, that's a lot of people to be primary caregiver for. Speaker 2: Yeah. . Speaker 1: So, I mean, can you tell us a little bit about, was there no one else? Did you just do it better than everyone? And you knew you did, did you, was it just everybody? That's the way your life turned out. Speaker 2: Everybody in your audience probably is a caregiver on some level, let's be honest. Mm-hmm. and, and, and the caregiving, you know, like I say, the joke is the train comes to my door and stops and everybody gets off. I mean, two things happened. Number one, like my grandmother in that book, my first book Showering with Dana, she came to live with me. And I had a two-year-old at the time. Mm-hmm. , so had a 92 year old and a Speaker 1: Two year, which is a hilarious book, by the way. Speaker 2: Thank you. They were, they definitely wanted to, you know, gang up on me and see what they could do, get away with it, Speaker 1: , Speaker 2: And it worked a lot. Um, but they, but that experience then led to, you know, other family members both on my side and my husband's side needing care. And as I'm doing this, as you remarked, I, I was a, I was a small town lawyer at the time mm-hmm. mm-hmm. . And as I started to formulate my practice around elder law, which is really kind of a new area of law, it is not, it is not the ancient law of, you know, criminal law and trial law, and even a state law, which goes back hundreds of years. Elder law is new because it's, it's about Medicare and Medicaid and nursing homes and, you know, things that have been growing and growing and growing during our lifetime. Mm-hmm. . But I needed to know this stuff cuz the people I were take, I was taking care of were old people. And then I was taking care of not so old people, but who were also in a system of Medicare and Medicaid because of their illnesses, their dramatic illnesses or whatever. So I, I just had to learn it. Sure. And then I became an elder lawyer, you know, cause of that. Speaker 1: Is that an actual, uh, specific kind of law, specific law degree? Speaker 2: It isn't, it isn't a law degree. There are certifications that you, certifications take. Yes, absolutely. And there are classes now, I would say they're fairly new in law school. Law schools are now offering elder law classes. Um, and it is definitely a specialty in law for sure. Okay. It's ab and there's lots of lawyers. That's Speaker 1: So that's really what I do. I try to teach everyone out there why you need an elder lawyer. What is it that you need? And what is different about elder law as opposed to any other, Speaker 1: Well, you make that point very well. again So, but the point being that I think some of us do go on autopilot, even if we're aware of these kinds of things. Speaker 1: And then other people just simply don't wanna think about it. You know, I grew up the daughter of funeral director and we, I mean, death was a part of life. I heard about people dying every day. And so I have a little bit of a different take on it, I think because of that. But certainly in my practice now for a long time, I, you know, mortality is something that, an illness and losing control, I mean, it's something that we all fear so much. Look at what's happening to Bruce Willis right now. I mean, he's taking the very brave step of letting some information out about it. Fronto, frontotemporal dementia or something like that. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: mm-hmm. Speaker 1: . Um, and so, you know, good for him, but it's also very frightening and, uh, very, I think probably how many people have said, I'd rather just be hit by a bus than develop Alzheimer's. Speaker 2: So here's the thing though, it doesn't work that way. Yes. That's the problem. It doesn't work that way. And by ignoring at your peril, not taking, getting your affairs in order mm-hmm. , you really make it hard for the people who love you. That's right. And that's not what you wanna do. You don't wanna make it hard for the people who love you. And so, especially in my world where I deal with people who are sick, I deal with people who are incapacitated. So, so Bruce Willis is a perfect example of being so generous of spirit, his family, to share this diagnosis with the world, which is quite frankly, a horrific diagnosis. Yes. It's, um, to say, we've been dealing with this, we now know what it is and we're going to continue to deal with it. Speaker 2: But you can absolutely pretty much ensure that they have their affairs in order. So in other words, during the journey when they were trying to figure out the problem, they made sure that their powers of attorney were in order. That they, that those powers of attorney let them do what they want them to do. Because it's like you said, sure. You sort of know about it, you hear about it, you have it. But did it really do what you wanted it to do? Which is why I talk about it more specifically in the book so people know what questions to ask. What kinds of questions am I supposed to be asking about this document that somebody has shoved under my nose to sign? Right. Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about, I mean, I did not read all of who Moved My Teeth, but the, the picture of the book that I got was certainly, there's a lot of information about exactly what you just said at the beginning of the book. And then the latter part of the book is more, um, well, practical, practical, pragmatic, Speaker 2: Practical advice for caregivers for really Yes. When you're stepping into it, how do I talk to my person who, you know, how do I spend a whole day with someone who's quite frankly making me insane with it? The same questions, or Sure. You know, what kinds of things can I do? What are they acting crazy? Maybe they have a urinary tract infection. And I never knew about Speaker 1: That. I was gonna ask you about UTIs, cuz that's really a big deal. You know, before we move on too much, there's a young man I worked with several years ago now, he lived on a farm kind of complex. All his family lived together and he adored, adored his grandmother. And she was diagnosed with, uh, a terminal illness and she refused to talk with him about her dying. And I'll never forget, he came, this young man was tough as a brick, you know, and a reared on a farm and used to, I mean, he didn't, I mean, the fact that he even came to therapy was a minor miracle. But he said, it's just like there's this, she's gone, she was dead by the time he came in. And she, he said, I never got to talk to her about how I was gonna miss her and what I loved about her. And I know that's a separate topic in many ways from some of the more legal things, but not really. I mean, it's intertwined, isn't it? Speaker 2: But I, yes, and I love that because these legal things are an act of love. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: This is an act of love both for you as the person who is doing it. And for you as a person who's saying, mom, dad, I wanna spend time with you. I just had this conversation with two three daughters who, who have a, a podcast as well, which, which we talked about doing that. But, but they, they said we had to step in so quickly as caregivers. We didn't get the end of times as daughters. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: And, and I have read this again and again, that people would so much more rather be grandsons and daughters and loving spouses rather than caregivers trying to deal with paperwork and, you know, and hospitals and doctors and anything you can do to make the hard road, the, the, the legal road, the people, anything that you can do to make that crisis part of the road smoother, gives you time to be a loved one. Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great point. It's such a significant one. Um, it, this the other book I talked about, 12 conversations really does pick out, you know, how do you talk to your dad? How do you talk to your mom? How do you talk to your siblings? How do you talk to your children? Um, and I I I loved a lot because you actually then have dialogue that we can read and go along with it. And you made jokes along the way. I love one of 'em called, I mean, I, I, I I dogeared it. What was it you said? Um, let see. Oh, it says, as you go through this chapter, you'll begin to understand that although this basic paperwork is crucial, it is the tip of the iceberg. And we are on the caregiving Titanic. . Speaker 2: Well, wow, that was good. Yeah, Speaker 1: That was good, wasn't it, Speaker 2: ? Speaker 1: And you're right, it's inevitable. You know what's gonna happen eventually, um, I've been on a hospice board for, or I was on it for many years and, you know, heard a lot of stories about how people handle palliative care and hospice and was thinking about that as I read your books. And, um, but I, I love the specificity of, of what you talk about in who Moved My Teeth, for example. You literally have a list of 60 ways to be more patient. You know, everything from count to 10 to drink a large glass of water, change what you're doing, take a bath, put gum in your mouth, , Speaker 1: Tell a joke, take a picture, order food, put lotion on you or your loved one, clean out a drawer, go through family photos, dance, bake color, and a coloring book. Tell a story. I mean, it's just these, I love the specificity of this. Speaker 2: And that gives not only you control, but the, but your loved one. Right. Right. So whether they have dementia or they're just ill, or they're just homebound or, you know, everyone doesn't have dementia, Margaret or, you know, caregiving isn't isn't just for those people with dementia. Like, it, it, it extends itself to lots of different kinds of people and their, their challenges. But if you are, for instance, coloring with them, it just gives them some control. Here's your page, here's my page. You can pick your crayon, you can pick your colored pencil. And even that, that little tiny weird thing of the two of you sitting there, you know, adult coloring was a big deal. Okay. Several years ago. Right. Speaker 1: Especially during the pandemic. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: . Yes. And it's or puzzling. Right. Putting puzzles together, it's because two things. Number one, it's, it's kind of like, uh, what's that called? Parallel play. Mm-hmm. . Right? So, so you're both doing something, you're both feeling in control of the situation, and yet you're not necessarily having to engage, which sometimes disengaging is good, right? Speaker 1: Yeah, sure. Speaker 2: So, so any of those things is, is yes, certainly to, helpful to you as the caregiver, but it's probably also helpful to the person you're caring for as well. Mm-hmm. . And they have much less control over the situation than you do, let's be honest. Speaker 1: And, and them accepting that I, I recently had a, um, a benign tumor removed and my son, who's 28, came and stayed for three weeks to help take care of me cuz it was a more serious surgery and that kind of thing. And we sat down and had a talk about, okay, let's, let's talk about what's in our future and you know, you are our only child and you know, what, what comes to you now? And he looked at us and said, well, I think I'm probably gonna have to move to Fable, Arkansas, or y'all going to move where I am. One of the two eventually. And, and we talked about timing and, and I decided after reading your book that the next time he comes, I'm gonna ask him to stay another day and go over, go to our lawyers with us and talk about these documents that we've signed that he's named in. But he was, what he was 16 or 17 when we did them. Right. Speaker 2: So Speaker 1: He needs to hear about it and know what's going on. And, and I, I loved that taking, that was my own personal takeaway from your book. Excellent. And I, I think that that is so important for people. And, and again, doing it when you're 40, I mean, uh, waiting, you know, oh, I'll do that when I'm 85. Well, you don't know what you're gonna be like at 85 Speaker 2: And what you do at 40 is not what you're gonna need to do at 60. Right. It's very different. So if you did it at 40, you and you're 60, you need to take a second look. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: You need to really, what Speaker 1: Do you think, what do you think is the, is the most common either error in thinking or behavior or both that people, Speaker 2: Well, the, the most common is not doing anything. Right. That's the most common. So, so if anybody who's listening to this now says, okay, I didn't do anything. I'm, I need to go do something, then yes, please go do that. Get your powers of attorney, get your wills, get your advanced directives. Just get them, get them. Mm-hmm. , um, and talk to an attorney about what you need and what your desires are. Specifically, I'd say the second most, um, common error is people who have done them, did them 10, 20, 15, 30 years ago. Especially people who have little children, they panic. I want someone to take care of my kids. If anything happens to me, I wanna make sure they have money if anything happens to me. And that's wonderful. And then they, you know, I always say they take that and they shove it into their underwear drawer and then you never see it again. . And you need to take it out of the underwear drawer, like Speaker 1: That old pair of underwear you used to be able to get into. But Speaker 2: Exactly. This is where I held up the granny panties and say, you need the granny panties of the wills. It's fresh, it's clean and it covers everything. . That's what you need to do. So that's the second biggest problem is people don't update their documents and boy have things changed. There's a thing now, um, it's called rufi. I wish I could remember what it stands for without looking it up. But what it's about is giving someone access to your digital information if you are sick and incapacitated, which is really important. Or quite frankly, if you're dead. Right. Yeah. And that information, that acknowledgement that yes, I'm giving this person access, has to be in those documents. Not the password so much, but yes, this person has the authority to get into my digital assets. And then when your son comes Margaret, show him where you keep your passwords, which, you know, online Speaker 1: Is, I don't see him anywhere. I keep online my Speaker 2: Head . Right. Online isn't great and in your head is even worse. . Speaker 1: Well, so what I did, I I sort of, the night before the surgery I went, what, wait a minute, what if something happens? And so I gave him the major passwords I could think about and we both kind of cried. And, and then I said, you know, but I, I should have all those written down somewhere or can Speaker 2: Somewhere. I mean, everyone says don't write them down, but truthfully, if you can't get into your computer where your passwords are, not having them written down doesn't help you. Right. Right. So you at least have to have your basic passwords somewhere where your loved one can have access to it, but legally also give them access to it. I see. In your documents. And that's new. That's not even in, I don't, pretty sure that's not in my first book. It's probably in my sec, my second or third book. Um, but things keep changing and that's why you need to keep looking at these documents, say every five years or so. Cause life changes. Speaker 1: You know, I also, um, my dad was always really sad because after his dad died and his dad died when he was 15, there was such family uproar about the will mm-hmm. Right. But it ripped the family apart. And I think a lot of the suggestions that you make are trying to say, you know, you could be that family where siblings don't talk to each other anymore after someone is either you're, you're having to decide about caregiving or, or you're having to decide about, you know, death issues or what's gonna happen after death. It, it can rip families apart like nothing I've ever seen really before. Speaker 2: Um, and so you, your work in my work are the same in that regard because in the sense that communication mm-hmm. is always going to be the key. Right. Right. You have to, you have to tell your children and your, it's so funny that you're saying this cuz I just, my mother's 90 fours down the street from me, and she's a pip and a half, and your listeners can go see us on TikTok if you want. I do fun little videos with my mom all the time. on TikTok. Um, and they're just, that's all I do is videos with my mom, who's 94. And she's so hilarious. Um, but I just said to myself self, I said, we need, although her will is very recent, I would say five years old, I wanna look at it again because I'm not sure it does what she wants it to do based on conversations that we've been having. So let's look at it. Right. Let's talk to my siblings and, you know, let's see what it, you gotta have, you have to, at least this is the other thing that you asked me that I sort of didn't mention is people just like you said, don't wanna talk about this. Yeah. It's scary, it's uncomfortable, but, you know, that's why we Speaker 1: Have, and also, uh, it, I mean, my brother died three year, three and a half years ago. It also, you, you can't talk about it without your own feelings about mortality or getting ill or losing control or, you know, these things that we fear that we just distract ourselves from and, you know, either have another beer or watch another baseball game mm-hmm. or go out and, you know, hunt something or fish something. Mm-hmm. So that we're in control or, or vape or whatever we do, um, to, to distract ourselves from the reality. Speaker 1: Right. You don't, you don't get outta dying. Right. So, um, it's, I I just think that these conversations are, they really can be trust builders. They can be things that, that offer clarity, that offer trust, that offer a sense. And as you point out a sense of control to the person who is older and realizes that they have a disease that is going to weaken them or, or cause their life to be something that frankly, you know, they wish did, hadn't happened to them, uh, like Bruce Willis. But at the same time it can, and we don't get to pick. So it, it's not like going to a, a restaurant and saying, oh, I'll have that. You know, it's just not like that. And, Speaker 2: But it's in the same vein, it's much harder to have a disease than it is to have a conversation about what happens if I have a disease. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: It's not that hard. My friends, which is why I wrote the 12 conversations book. Yeah. It's really not that hard. It's five or six simple questions you need to ask yourself about what you want, what you think you wanna do, um, and then get a lawyer to write it up for you. It don't make it harder than it needs to be. Speaker 1: Speaker 1: Number one, there is nothing that is more mentally health challenging than being a caregiver. Mm-hmm. . It is, it is so hard. And I I I encourage you desperately to, if you have, especially if you have mental health benefits at your work or you know, in your insurance or whatever to use them because caregiving is a mental health stress. Do not think that it's not because it is. That's Speaker 1: As many people found out during the pandemic when it was all of a sudden 24 7 kind of Speaker 2: In your face. Yes, exactly. And if you are not yet a caregiver, but you see it coming down the road and you just happen to be going to a therapist, talk to them about that mm-hmm. , talk to them about this piece of your life that you see coming for you. And maybe if you're having challenges having that conversation with that person, or you yourself don't wanna do it, but you know, it has to be done, maybe you can get some tactics, some tools, because this is also about Sure the legal tools are important. That's what I'm here to tell you about. Get those legal tools. But it's also the communication tools, you know, the stress tools. There's so many tools that you need as a caregiver, and there's lots of people out there who can help you with that. Speaker 1: I, I, I also, before we, before we stop, I wanna make the point, I I, you're right. Caregiving you, you think, oh, I'm just taking mom to get her hair done, or Oh, I'm just taking dad to the post office, or I'm just doing this, or I'm just doing that. But those things add up mm-hmm. , and you've got children of your own, or you've got a job of your own or you've got a home of your own or you, you live two hours away or whatever it happens to be. You're right. It's, we can minimize, oh, this is, this shouldn't be, uh, you know, I'm just doing that. But they're, when you're just doing four or five or 10 or 12 or 15 or 20 of those things a month, then that's a lot. And it changes your life. And it can definitely impact the relationship you're in with a spouse or a partner. Um, and actually they may be going through something similar with their parents. Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. , Speaker 1: So, or aunts or uncles or whomever, grandparents. So it's just a conversation about it and, and to say, gosh, this is, you know, maybe people say, oh, I'm, I'm, I'm loyal, this is what I'm supposed to do. But that doesn't mean you have to, you know, you can't grieve it or feel different feelings about it other than, you know, I, I, I just, I just have to do this. It's, it's like, it's more complex than that. Speaker 2: Agreed. It is more complex than that. And you need to grant yourself the grace to understand that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. What, how have you changed in, in, in taking care of these folks that you've loved or you've cared for being an elder law, um, specialist Now? What, what, I mean, how have you changed Kathy? Speaker 2: Um, I, Speaker 1: Being an author, a speaker. Speaker 2: . Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I've changed my career. That's for one. Um, honestly, this is, I don't know if this is terrible or not. Some part of me, it, my, my psychological part of me says it probably is, but I, I've actually become kind of a tough love caregiver in a lot of ways. Mm. Speaker 1: You mentioned that Speaker 2: The, the empathy is great, but the practicality is hard. And it's okay for you to recognize that and, and to have expectations of others. Not the person that you're caring for, the person who should be helping you, the person, you know, even your partner. Um, it's okay to have expectations of others. And I think I often when I'm teaching that, that often becomes a question. Um, you know, but my mom won't talk about this or I can't, she won't go to the doctor or whatever. And I'm like, you, you have two choices. You can take the tough love perspective that this is what we're going to do if I'm gonna be your helper, or you can tell them that they will have to suffer the consequences of that action. And you have to be okay with that. Yeah. So, wow, tough love caregiving is hard. Mm-hmm. . But it might be harder to be super empathetic and not allow yourself to realize that sometimes the person you're caring for also has to take the consequences of their Speaker 1: Actions. And it's really, I what comes to mind is sort of the age old. You, you have to parent your parents kind of thing. Mm-hmm. that one of the points, for example you made in the book was if there's a paid caregiver and your parent is being demeaning to them or saying things that aren't appropriate, that you have to say, you know, it's better to say, mom, you can't talk to Jane like that. Right. Or you, you need to apologize for what you just said, or Yes, that's not appropriate. Jane will leave and we really like Jane, and Jane does a good idea. Yes. Jane does a good, uh, job with you and for you and, and we can talk out what you don't like about Jane, but you know, talk about it with me. And then maybe if we need to make another agreement with Jane, that's one thing, but don't play out your, whatever is going on with you and, and say things to Jane that, that aren't helpful. Speaker 2: The other thing, and that's so important. Yes. The, the other thing that I'd like to bring up that I have changed, not changed my viewpoint amount, but have, have really put into practice and want more women, especially to do this, is get paid for your caregiving. Yes. If your parents would pay Jane, they should pay you. Right. Especially if you don't have Jane coming, if you are doing all of it. And if you are taking a f, especially if you're taking a financial hit, if you have, you know, gone from full-time to part-time work, if you have quit your job to take care of them, if you moved into their house and got rid of your apartment or you're paying rent over there, but living with them, if you are taking a financial hit and they have assets, they should pay you. And you get a signed paid caregiver agreement to protect all the parties. Speaker 2: But that's really important. There are far too many unpaid family caregivers who can and should be paid. And we are recycling this, this, uh, women get to the point then in their lives where they have no retirement, they have no right savings. They have no, because they stepped out of the workforce to be a caregiver 1, 2, 3, 7, 9 times, right? Mm-hmm. mm-hmm. . And there are even me ways to pay someone if your parents have no assets and Medicaid will pay, they will pay family caregivers. There are lots of organizations that have cropped up. Again, I said, do things change in the last two to five years that are now making sure you can get paid as a family caregiver. So, so that's the other thing that I, I have learned and I have changed my mind about that. Yes, this is great to be about love, but there's nothing wrong with getting paid. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm wonderful point and very important point. So, well, after six years, I'm really glad we finally had this conversation. It feels Speaker 2: Two more great. Speaker 1: Like it's a little bit different a conversation than we would've had six years ago. So Speaker 2: Very much yes. Speaker 1: That's, um, that's to everyone's benefit I think. So I thank you so much. How can people get in touch with you to speak or to teach or, um, just Speaker 2: To, so yeah, so if you're in a workplace, in a corporate workplace, that would be awesome to have me come in and help teach your, your team about not only caregiving, but what benefits you may have at work that you're not using to help caregivers. And that what you could bring into work. Uh, if you want to just, you know, look at my books Kathy Sikorski and see my name on the screen there. Just type that in. I come up for the first three pages on Google, but I'm on Amazon, so all my books are available on Amazon. And my website, which is being recreated as we speak, um, is kathy sikorsky.com. Um, and that's c a t h y s i k o r s k i kathy sikorsky.com. Um, and anytime you have a question, Kathy sikorski kathy dot sikorski gmail.com, you are free to email me. I love to interact with people who have questions and I will answer them as best I can and guide you to the resources that can really help you. Speaker 1: Kathy, I admire you so much. Thank you very, very much. And you are really funny. So, and Speaker 2: You told me about Speaker 1: That, that it's so important to keep your sense of humor. Speaker 2: Please. You guys, you gotta laugh about this cause it's, it's, first of all, it's a laugh worthy and second of all, if you're not laughing, you're doing something else. You don't wanna do Speaker 1: . You know, my dad used to say, uh, cuz he just infirmity after infirmity after disease after problem. He looked at me one time when he was about 81 or two and he said, you know, Margaret, God's not supposed to give you more than you can bear, but I gotta talk to God because he's way overestimating my abilities. . Speaker 2: Yes. I'm on your dad's side. Yeah. Speaker 1: If Speaker 2: He, if he ever figured out how to do that conversation, you should put that out there, Speaker 1: . Well, I'm not sure he did, but , thank you so, so Speaker 2: Very much. So great to spend time with you. I really loved it. Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Bye. Bye.