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Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
What do people in other functions at your organization think lean is all about?For many—in HR, OD, Finance, or operations—the answer is simple: process improvement, efficiency, waste elimination. And while those are pieces of the puzzle, they miss the bigger picture.Too often, continuous improvement and operational excellence teams get pigeonholed as “process people,” making it hard to gain traction or build the partnerships needed for real transformation.But lean isn't just about processes—it's about people. It's a strategy for developing leaders, engaging employees, and creating lasting change.If you're struggling to get leadership buy-in for lean or continuous improvement, the problem likely isn't the results you deliver. It's how you're positioning the value of lean and your role as a change leader.That's why I teamed up with my friend and business positioning and branding expert Betsy Jordyn for a special bonus episode.Together, we explore one of the biggest challenges you face as a lean and CI professional: how to position and frame your work so others see its true impact.YOU'LL LEARN:Why lean consultants – both internal and external – struggle with positioningHow to talk about what you do in language executives care aboutWhy people and learning matter more than toolsHow to connect leadership behaviors to measurable business resultsAnd why influence skills are just as important as technical expertiseWhether you're an internal or external consultant, this conversation will help you reframe your work in ways that create greater traction and impact.ABOUT MY GUEST:Betsy Jordyn is a Brand Positioning Strategist that helps consulting and coaching business owners clarify their brand positioning and messaging, create a website presence that positions them as sought-after experts, land clients with ease and integrity, and take their place as thought leaders and influencers in their niche. Her mission is to help consultants and coaches monetize their best-at strengths and authentic passions to make a bigger difference in the world.IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: https://kbjanderson.com/roi-strategic-positioning-lean-consultants/ Watch this bonus episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/kgCbr2Os3nA Connect with Betsy Jordyn: linkedin.com/in/betsy-jordynListen to my conversation with Betsy Jordyn on Consulting Matters podcast: The ROI of Elevating Your Strategic Positioning & MessagingCheck out my website for resources and working together: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjanderson Learn about my Japan Leadership Experience program: kbjanderson.com/JapanTrip Download my KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst TIMESTAMPS:01:00 – The challenge: how lean is misunderstood as process improvement04:00 – Why “lean” became associated with tools in the West07:30 – The “paint story”: respect for people in action at Toyota10:00 – Demystifying jargon like gemba and focusing on “going to see”12:00 – Creating conditions for frontline problem-solving15:00 – Respect for people = holding precious what it means to be human19:00 – Don't lead with methodology: framing problems leaders care about22:00 – From tools to transformation: shaping client expectations24:00 – Linking behavior change to ROI and business results25:00 – The Katalyst™ model: building influence and communication skills27:00 – Why executives aren't always on board—and how to change that33:00 – Silos among OD, HR, L&D, and lean consultants36:00 – Building cross-disciplinary partnerships for culture change41:00 – Positioning tips: language, boundaries, and when to reveal methods42:00 – Pairing technical expertise with influence for greater impact46:00 – Trojan-horsing people-centered leadership through process work48:00 – Quantifying value: behaviors, KPIs, and ROI54:00 – Wrap-up: The path forward for lean consultants
Send Katie a Text Message!! In this week's episode, to wrap up our Project to Profit Series, I'm getting real about the one step most designers skip that could save you hours, protect your margins, and stop you from repeating the same costly mistakes project after project.Here's the kicker: research shows that teams who actually take this step improve performance by 20–25% on their very next project. Yep, it's that powerful.And don't think this is just for big firms — if you're a team of one, this step may be even more critical to stop repeating mistakes and create the systems that future-proof your business.Check out the show notes and other resources at https://successbydesign.coach/podcast/b/interior-design-debriefsThis podcast is brought to you in partnership with Leah Bryant Co.Connect with Katie LinkedInBusiness Strategy Sessions for Interior Designers Free Resources for scaling your interior design firmWebsite
What You'll Learn:In this episode, host Catherine McDonald and guest Evan Powell discuss the critical importance of inventory management in businesses. They emphasize that inventory management is not a one-size-fits-all approach and requires dynamic, cross-functional collaboration. Evan highlights common misconceptions, such as viewing inventory as a set-and-forget system and relying solely on software or AI.About the Guest:Evan Powell is an operations and supply chain professional dedicated to optimizing processes, reducing waste, and improving performance. With a proven track record of delivering measurable cost savings, increased productivity, and enhanced customer satisfaction, he brings a practical, cross-functional problem-solving approach. Evan's expertise spans end-to-end supply chain management, including process optimization, lean manufacturing, inventory management, demand planning, logistics, vendor management, and continuous improvement. All with a focus on achieving real-world impact.Links:Click Here For Evan Powell's LinkedInEvan Powell's Website
Do you feel like your team is constantly solving the same problems, even though you "have a system for that?" This episode reveals a deeper issue: a lack of coaching and accountability. Learn why stepping in to create workarounds or simply telling people what to do can be a major leadership failure. Discover how to get to the root cause of recurring problems and empower your team to follow a simplified process. For more resources on developing leadership skills visit us at Revela. Where we've helped hundreds of executives lead productive teams and thriving organizations. This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative.
Season 3 - we're back with a muddle of James's!To kick the season off, hosts James Lawther and Jimmy Barber explore how we can all use artificial intelligence at work with special guest James Crawford. Unless you're living under a rock, you'll be aware of the promise of AI revolutionising the workplace. This tends to focus on how organisations, governments, or public services will utilise AI and automate various jobs. Today, we explore how we as individuals can use AI to help us get ahead and revolutionise how we work. AI expert James Crawford shares his 5P's model and also explains which AI systems work best for specific jobs. He then discusses some of the uses and best practices he has experienced during his travels. Plus, you'll hear 'what we did last summer', but somewhat less dramatic than the films or songs! So if you're worried about getting left behind in the AI revolution, check this episode out!Got a question - get in touch. Click here.
Many students have never heard of Industrial & Systems Engineering — and even fewer understand the incredible impact it has on the world. This episode of Problem Solved: The IISE Podcast explores a creative solution to that challenge: the ISE Impact Short Video Contest, which invites students and professionals to explain ISE's value in just 60 seconds.You'll hear from:Dr. Ana Muriel, associate professor at UMass Amherst and co-creator of the contestHannah Brooks, a nursing student who used stop-motion animation to tackle global food securityAnwaar Zyoud, an industrial engineer who used ISE methods to transform her Taekwondo performanceTogether, they show how creativity, storytelling, and problem-solving can inspire the next generation of engineers.Learn more about The Institute of Industrial and Systems Engineers (IISE)Problem Solved on LinkedInProblem Solved on YouTubeProblem Solved on InstagramProblem Solved on TikTokProblem Solved Executive Producer: Elizabeth GrimesInterested in contributing to the podcast? Email egrimes@iise.org
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
What's the #1 frustration most lean and continuous improvement practitioners face?It's something that I bet you've felt too, no matter how passionate you are about the work, no matter what you call it: lean, agile, continuous improvement, operational excellence, or DevOps...Too often, we struggle to clearly explain what we actually do as CI change leaders and why it matters. And when you can't articulate the deeper value of lean or OpEx, it's hard to get the buy-in needed to lead the organizational transformation you envision.In this episode, I take you inside a qualitative survey of 100+ change leaders—from internal continuous improvement practitioners and leaders, to external consultants and coaches, executives and operations leaders—on what draws us to this field of organizational improvement, what fuels our passion, and what holds us back from the impact we know is possible.Before listening to this episode, take a moment to reflect on:What lights you up about your work?What's the top challenge you keep running into?If you love lean and continuous improvement and are ready to overcome the frustrations holding you and your organization back from real transformation, then this episode is for you.YOU'LL LEARN:Three things we love the most about this work as continuous improvement and lean change leadersThe #1 frustration holding you back (hint: it's not about the tools or frameworks)Why a shift from McGregor's Theory X (command and control) to Theory Y (empowered problem-solving) management mindset is critical to your impact—and why lean efforts fail without itThe paradox of trying to influence deeply ingrained management and leadership beliefs and behaviorsThree practical ways you can start changing both the story and the system IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes with links to other podcast episodes and resources: ChainOfLearning.com/52Check out my website for resources and ways to work with me KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my free KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst Hear how Gustavo influenced significant business results after participating in my Japan Leadership ExperienceTIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:03:01 Reflection questions on your own experience as a lean and continuous improvement practitioner03:53 Top three things that light us up and fuels our passion03:58 [FIRST] Problem solving that directly impact people's ability to work meaningfully04:51 Survey examples of what leaders love about solving problems06:16 [SECOND] People development and empowerment07:07 Survey examples of what leaders love about empowering people to solve problems08:50 [THIRD] Tangible and meaningful impact09:52 Survey examples of what leaders love about creating meaningful impact for people, organizations, and systems10:46 Change leader's frustration: leadership buy-in 12:57 The deeper truth in what's stopping us from leading real organizational transformation13:18 Challenges in changing mindsets and shifting behaviors in an organization13:42 The meaning of Douglas McGregor's Theory X and Theory Y and the relationship to lean16:00 The paradox in changing mindset management and leadership for change leaders17:12 Three practical tips to shift shift the story and the system17:18 [FIRST] Acknowledge the size of the challenge18:07 [SECOND] Speak the language of business19:07 One of the best examples of how a leader effectively led change through influence 20:54 [THIRD] Pair technical process improvement skills with influence and human-focused skills22:54 The consistent themes from the survey of loving this work and wanting to make meaningful impact23:54 Take the next step in expanding your influence skills
What if the way we think about problems is holding us back from solving them? Tom Wujec — designer, technologist, and multiple-time TED speaker — joins Problem Solved to explore how visual problem solving can help industrial and systems engineers tackle challenges of every size, from simple process fixes to wicked problems like climate change and AI disruption.In this episode, we discuss:Why traditional problem-solving methods often failThe four types of problems — simple, complicated, complex, and wicked — and why they need different approachesThe power of “plays” — structured, visual activities that align teams and unlock solutionsHow visualization frees up mental bandwidth, builds shared understanding, and drives better decisionsFive key shifts engineers can make to become better collaborative problem-solversWhether you work in manufacturing, healthcare, tech, or supply chain, Tom's approach will expand your toolkit and transform the way you lead teams through today's most complex challenges.Watch this episode on YouTube to see Tom's method's in action!tomwujec.comTed TalksBuild a Tower, Build a TeamGot a Wicked Problem? First, Tell me how you make ToastMaking Ideas Visible3 Ways the brain creates meaning"Art Before Breakfast" by Danny GregorySponsor: This episode is sponsored by IISE's Performance Excellence Webinars. Learn from global thought leaders on operational excellence, data analytics, leadership, and more.Learn more about The Institute of Industrial and Systems Engineers (IISE)Problem Solved on LinkedInProblem Solved on YouTubeProblem Solved on InstagramProblem Solved on TikTokProblem Solved Executive Producer: Elizabeth GrimesInterested in contributing to the podcast? Email egrimes@iise.org
When should you let AI agents loose on your processes, and when should you keep them on a tight leash? Peter and Dave explore the messy reality of using agentic AI for process improvement.They dig into why the processes you can easily map might not be the ones where AI agents add the most value. From recruitment pipelines that need human intuition to DevOps workflows that demand zero variation, not every process is created equal when it comes to AI intervention.This week's takeaways:Categorize your processes first. Look at your processes and start sorting them. Some need to eliminate variation (like DevOps deployment pipelines), while others benefit from exploring the edges and finding creative solutions.Not all processes are equal when it comes to AI. There are many ways AI can help improve processes, but you need to think about whether you want to reduce variability or increase intelligent flexibility in each specific case.Train AI to know when to hand off. What you want AI to do is recognize when it can't handle something and pass it to the right system - whether that's a math library for calculations or a human for complex decisions.Understand the difference between consistency and exploration. DevOps spent years eliminating variation to create stable, repeatable deployments. Other processes might actually want that variation because it gives you something unusual and valuable.If you're wrestling with where to apply AI in your organization without breaking what already works, this episode offers a practical framework for thinking through the trade-offs.Resource:Ethan Mollick's "The Bitter Lesson versus The Garbage Can": https://substack.com/home/post/p-169199293Questions or thoughts? Reach us at feedback@definitelymaybeagile.com
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Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
Enter to win a copy of "The Problem Solver's Toolkit" by Tracy O'Rourke and Elisabeth Swan by September 12.Organizations invest thousands of dollars and countless hours into lean, Six Sigma, and other continuous improvement training programs. Certifications get awarded. Belts get earned.But nothing actually changes.Technical problem-solving training alone isn't enough to drive meaningful impact. Without guidance and support on how to apply problem-solving tools—and the people-side of leading change—improvements stall. In this episode of Chain of Learning, I'm joined by Tracy O'Rourke and Elisabeth Swan, co-founders of the Just-in-Time Café and co-authors of "The Problem-Solver's Toolkit." With more than 50 years of combined Lean Six Sigma experience, they've trained and coached thousands of problem-solvers across industries—from healthcare and government to manufacturing and service—helping teams turn knowledge into real results.Whatever problem-solving method you use—DMAIC, PDCA, or an A3—you'll walk away with practical insights to help you bridge the gap between knowledge and action.YOU'LL LEARN:Why traditional training programs fail to create lasting problem-solving capability—and what to do insteadThe importance of bringing others along in a change project and staying flexible and curious as the work evolvesWhy successful and sustainable problem-solving requires both technical know-how and people skillsHow to engage teams, navigate change, and keep momentum going while leading a process improvement team How to close the gap between learning and doing by turning skills into real-world resultsABOUT MY GUESTS:Tracy O'Rourke is a Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt, and co-founder of the Just-in-Time Café. As a sought-after consultant, instructor, and speaker with over 25 years of experience, Tracy specializes in cultural change, leadership development, strategic alignment, and process improvement. Elisabeth Swan is a leadership coach, keynote speaker, award-winning author of “Picture Yourself a Leader”, and co-founder of the Just-in-Time Café. Elisabeth brings decades of experience helping Fortune 100 companies and nonprofits embrace conscious leadership and continuous improvement. IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/51My website for resources and ways to work with me KBJAnderson.comConnect with Tracy O'Rourke: linkedin.com/in/tracy-orourkeConnect with Elisabeth Swan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elisabethswanFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my free KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst Get your copy of the “Problem-Solver's Toolkit”: www.jitcafe.com/book My Japan Leadership Experience: kbjanderson.com/japantrip TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:01:37 The inspiration behind the “Problem Solvers Toolkit” 02:54 The disconnect between what is education and what leads to retention 04:22 The aha moments in creating the revised second edition in leading process improvement05:55 Potholes and detours as a metaphor in process improvements not going the perfect way06:36 The journey of continuous improvement in taking your team on the journey with you07:26 Incorporating road games in getting the team involved in problem solving11:03 What led Tracy and Elisabeth to want to help people in leading process improvement13:31 The real meaning of being a leader — more than just being a senior executive16:04 The difference between lean and Six Sigma18:24 Why the process steps matter more than the name19:22 Why people feel lean has failed20:38 Additional learnings in making the second edition of “The Problem-Solver's Toolkit” 21:53 Changes made in the second edition including graphics, examples and templates22:19 What the Just-in-Time Café digital toolkit includes 25:23 How to solve problems based on solving similar problems27:19 The 5S Baby spoof music video inspired by process solving tools29:12 The next spoof song based on root cause analysis33:16 Elisabeth's takeaways from the Japan Leadership Experience in seeing worker happiness34:53 The importance of focusing on human happiness and engagement for growth36:53 Tracy's takeaways from the Japan Leadership Experience 40:00 Top recommendation for being the most effective in getting traction in solving problems41:41 The importance of building curiosity to get to know people and their experiences43:34 What is involved in successful problem-solving44:14 How to close the gap between learning and doing Enter to win a copy of "The Problem Solver's Toolkit" by Tracy O'Rourke and Elisabeth Swan by September 12. Apply today for the Japan Leadership Experience — last chance to join the November 2025 cohort. Applications also open for May 2026.
In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Catherine MacDonagh, a legal industry consultant and author of Lean Six Sigma for Law. Catherine explains how process improvement—defined as analyzing and refining repeatable, describable steps to achieve better outcomes—can significantly enhance client service, profitability, and rainmaking. She notes that while lawyers often resist by saying every matter is unique, many steps in legal work and firm operations (like intake, billing, or onboarding) are recurring processes ripe for improvement. By using tools such as scorecards, impact/ease matrices, and stakeholder analysis, firms can identify high-impact areas, streamline workflows, and improve both client and employee experiences. Catherine shares real-world success stories, including a global law department that collaborated with a law firm to reduce billing inefficiencies and deepen their relationship. She stresses the importance of involving cross-functional teams, listening to the “voice of the client,” and embedding change management into the process. Continuous improvement, she argues, is not just about efficiency—it's about building stronger client partnerships and staying competitive. Catherine closes with three action steps: start by trying small improvements, commit to continuous learning, and build skills in Lean, Six Sigma, and related disciplines. Her message is clear: process improvement works in law, and adopting it can transform rainmaking efforts and client development. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/Q36c2IBRpdc ---------------------------------------
In this episode of Dealer Talk, we dive deep into mindset, leadership, and making bold decisions in business. I'm thrilled to sit down with my long-time friend and client, Inder Dosanjh, whose journey from technician to owning 17 car dealerships is nothing short of inspiring. We also welcome Munish Mahajan, Inder's co-founder, CEO & President, who brings a tech-forward, transformative approach to dealership operations. We talk about: The mindset shifts that move you from “just a job” to building something bigger. The challenges of scaling a dealership business while keeping your team motivated and empowered. How data, AI, and smart processes can fill gaps in dealership operations. The power of complementary skill sets in partnerships and leadership. Real-life crossroads that define companies and leaders—and how to make bold decisions when the stakes are high. Whether you're a dealership owner, GM, frontline manager, or part of a BDC team, this episode is packed with insights on growth, transformation, and taking action—even when it feels risky.
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
Apply for the Nov 2025 (limited spots remaining) or May 2026 Japan Leadership Experiencehttps://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/ “Change the culture!”That's exactly what longtime Toyota leader Isao Yoshino was tasked with during one of the most famous business transformations in history—NUMMI—Toyota's joint venture with General Motors in the 1980s.The challenge? Take GM's worst-performing plant—plagued by absenteeism, low morale, and poor quality—and turn it around.Within just one year, with the same American workforce but under Toyota's leadership, NUMMI became GM's best-performing site.Behind the scenes was Mr. Yoshino, leading the design and delivery of a three-week training program in Japan for hundreds of NUMMI's frontline and middle managers.In this episode, Mr. Yoshino shares the inside story of NUMMI's transformation—how an experiment in a business turnaround became a “New Me” moment for its leaders—and the leadership lessons you can use to influence culture change without relying on authority.If you're a lean practitioner or change leader wondering how to truly “change a culture,” this is a rare chance to hear the story directly from the person who lived it.You'll Learn:Why you can't force culture change—and what to do insteadHow Mr. Yoshino and his team created immersive learning experiences that shifted NUMMI leaders' mindsets in just three weeksWhy the “Check” step in PDCA is the secret to Toyota's sustained success How the andon process reshaped leaders' views on problems—and how a “no problem is a problem” and no-blame mindset fosters learning and continuous improvementWhy NUMMI's transformation was as much (or more) about people as it was about performanceABOUT MY GUEST:Isao Yoshino, worked at Toyota Motor Corporation for over 40 years—from the late 1960s to the early 2000s—and played an important role in the development of Toyota's people-centered learning culture it's now famous for. He was a key part of Kan-Pro senior leadership development program, which embedded A3 thinking as the process for problem-solving, communication, and leadership development across the organization—and has deep expertise in the practice of hoshin-kanri—Toyota's strategy deployment process. He's the subject of the Shingo award-winning book “Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn: Lessons from Toyota Leader Isao Yoshino on a Lifetime of Continuous Learning”IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes with links to other podcast episodes and resources: ChainOfLearning.com/50Check out my website for resources and ways to work with me KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my free KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst Learn more about the Japan Leadership Experience: kbjanderson.com/japantrip For an even deeper behind-the-scenes look at NUMMI, read the dedicated chapter in my book: LearningToLeadLeadingToLearn.com TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:03:02 How Isao Yoshino felt to be tasked with changing the culture and attitude of NUMMI leaders04:27 Creating the space for leaders to experience working in Japan and Toyota's style09:21 Positive results from employees changing their attitude mindset themselves without being forced12:06 The importance of “check” in the PDCA process 14:38 Making the “check” process a positive experience in learning how to improve systems without blame18:10 The critical difference between the former GM culture and Toyota with their approach to problems19:12 The mindset shift of “no problem is a problem” and the impact of pulling the andon cord20:19 The positive results from lettings others learn and grow without force23:09 Reflections from Isao Yoshino about being part of the Japan Leadership Experience and continuing to learn something new24:38 The acronym for NUMMI and the deeper meaning of, “New Me” to become the best version of yourself Apply for the Nov 2025 (limited spots remaining) or May 2026 Japan Leadership Experiencehttps://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/
In this episode of the Drop In CEO podcast Join host Deb Coviello as she welcomes David Jenyns, entrepreneur and founder of Systemology, to discuss how business owners can free themselves from daily operations by building effective systems. David shares his journey from selling the Melbourne Cricket Ground to systematizing businesses, and offers actionable insights for leaders looking to scale and optimize their organizations. Episode Highlights: 01:12 — David’s entrepreneurial journey: from selling the Melbourne Cricket Ground to founding Systemology 12:01 — The seven-stage process for systematizing a business and why “process first” matters 27:14 — Real-world impact: How systemization saved a business 1,000 man-hours and empowered team members 41:01 — Building a culture of systems: Overcoming resistance and the role of the “systems champion” David Jenyns is an experienced entrepreneur who sold the Melbourne Cricket Ground in his early twenties and founded Melbourne SEO Services. He systemized himself out of that business in 2016 and founded SYSTEMology to help business owners implement systems to scale their business. Today, he supports a growing community of certified SYSTEMologists, delivers workshops, keynote addresses, hosts a podcast, and is on a mission to free business owners worldwide from daily operations. Connect with David Jenyns: Company Website: www.systemology.comLinkedin: www.linkedin.com/david-jenyns For more information about my services or if you just want to connect and have a chat, reach out at: https://dropinceo.com/contact/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Lean: The unsung hero of employee engagement that actually works You might think employee engagement is best created by HR. Think again. In this episode of the Consulting Matters podcast, I'm joined by Tom West and Mark Ryan of Green Dot Consulting - self-proclaimed improvement nerds on a mission to rescue the world from bad processes. If you're a consultant or coach who wants to help your clients improve performance and engagement (especially in these uncertain times), this conversation is a must-listen. We unpack why process improvement isn't just about efficiency… …it's a powerful, people-first strategy that boosts morale, productivity, and performance all at once! Tune in to discover: Why Lean and process improvement is the most overlooked secret to increasing employee engagement What leaders of highly engaged workforces NEVER do when faced with lots of employee complaints Why fixing broken processes (more than recognition or bumps in pay) makes employees feel respected, appreciated, valued and heard Where hidden opportunities for cross-functional collaboration between Lean, HR, and OD are waiting to be uncovered Why consultants and coaches who connect people, process, and profit are needed now more than ever How to make waste the enemy—not the economy—so you can boldly position yourself for the clients who need you right now Listen now and get ready to become an improvement nerd yourself (if you're not already). Where to dive in: (00:00) The Power of Lean for Engagement(04:59) Passion for Process Improvement(11:42) Uncovering Employee Engagement Gaps(27:20) The Value of Employee Engagement(37:58) Collaboration for Operational Excellence(49:19) Empowering People for Success(58:33) Uncovering Lean Process Improvement Value About the guests: Thomas West, founder of GreenDot, is an “Improvement Nerd” with a rare ASQ Master Black Belt and a string of other credentials that prove he's as good with strategy as he is with a stopwatch. A PMP, Organizational Change Management pro, and Malcolm Baldrige Examiner, Thomas helps organizations go from good to great by building cultures where ideas flourish and change sticks. When he's not improving processes, he's training for endurance races or visiting National Parks with his wife and three sons, on track to see them all before the boys graduate. Mark Ryan is a process improvement and operational leader at GreenDot, where he drives organizational change from the ground up. He empowers teams through Lean Six Sigma training and workshops, helping companies eliminate waste, boost efficiency, and build a culture of daily improvement. About the host: Betsy Jordyn is a business mentor, brand messaging strategist, and former Disney consultant who helps purpose-driven consultants and coaches build profitable businesses rooted in their unique strengths. With over 20 years in the industry and a knack for turning big ideas into clear positioning, she's your go-to for strategy that aligns with your calling. Ready to turn your expertise into a business that makes both impact and income? Work with me: https://www.betsyjordyn.com/services
Ever wondered if your people strategy is actually holding your business back? Yvonne Jackson—who's helped companies like Apple untangle their most stubborn people challenges—just dropped a truth bomb that might surprise you: equity isn't a culture problem, it's a process problem. And the fix? It's way less complicated (and a lot quicker) than most leaders think. In this episode, you'll hear how duct-tape solutions and “cute” values might be costing your business more than you realize—and what to do about it. But there's one unconventional move Yvonne makes that flips the whole high-performing team playbook on its head… Want to know what it is? In this episode, you will be able to: Discover how crafting a future of work strategy can transform your leadership and keep your team ahead in a fast-changing world. Unlock the secrets to building high-performing teams that stay motivated and aligned with your business goals. Understand why treating equity as a process problem can shift your entire approach to creating a fair workplace. Learn how to operationalize equity in talent management to drive real, measurable change in your organization. Master succession planning techniques that fuel sustainable business growth and prepare your team for what's next. My special guest is Yvonne Jackson Yvonne Jackson is an experienced business strategist specializing in organizational transformation, talent management, and operational equity. She has worked with major companies such as Apple and Oscar Health, where she led initiatives to align people strategies with core business objectives. Yvonne's expertise includes business process reengineering and identifying process-driven solutions to equity challenges, making her a sought-after advisor for organizations aiming to build high-performing, equitable teams. Her academic background spans the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, as well as international study in Thailand and Milan, giving her a broad perspective on leadership and team dynamics. As the founder of her own leadership consultancy, Yvonne combines practical experience with a global outlook, focusing on sustainable succession planning and the integration of equity into everyday business operations. The key moments in this episode are:00:02:43 - Yvonne Jackson's Background and Cross-Cultural Experiences 00:07:03 - Transitioning from DEI to Process-Driven Equity and Leadership 00:10:23 - Aligning Business Priorities with Equity for Sustainable Impact 00:12:53 - Operationalizing Equity through Process Improvement and Leadership Alignment 00:13:26 - Leveraging Tech and Process Reengineering in Talent Management 00:14:39 - Addressing Organizational Growth Challenges and Realignment Needs 00:17:19 - The Cost of Misalignment and Importance of Metrics in DEI 00:21:48 - Supporting Overwhelmed Leaders to Gain Strategic Clarity 00:25:32 - Revaluing Company Core Values as Decision-Making Tools 00:27:15 - Redesigning Organizational Values for Modern Equity and Decision-Making 00:31:09 - Embracing AI to Identify Workflow Inefficiencies and Drive Strategy 00:32:40 - Recommended Leadership Reading: The Courage to Be Disliked 00:34:07 - Prioritizing Sleep as a Key Productivity Ritual for Leaders 00:36:39 - Changing the World by Shifting Social Media Narratives 00:40:21 - Operationalizing Equity and Centering Humanity in the Future of Work Connect with Yvonne Jackson and her work by visiting her website or finding her on LinkedIn. Get 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp by visiting www.betterhelp.com/difference. Join the Master the Career Pivot course at www.loriadamsbrown.com/careerpivot 10% off with the code: DIFFERENT Rate and review the podcast by tapping 5 stars and leaving a quick review to help more difference makers find the show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ever wondered if your people strategy is actually holding your business back? Yvonne Jackson—who's helped companies like Apple untangle their most stubborn people challenges—just dropped a truth bomb that might surprise you: equity isn't a culture problem, it's a process problem. And the fix? It's way less complicated (and a lot quicker) than most leaders think. In this episode, you'll hear how duct-tape solutions and “cute” values might be costing your business more than you realize—and what to do about it. But there's one unconventional move Yvonne makes that flips the whole high-performing team playbook on its head… Want to know what it is? In this episode, you will be able to: Discover how crafting a future of work strategy can transform your leadership and keep your team ahead in a fast-changing world. Unlock the secrets to building high-performing teams that stay motivated and aligned with your business goals. Understand why treating equity as a process problem can shift your entire approach to creating a fair workplace. Learn how to operationalize equity in talent management to drive real, measurable change in your organization. Master succession planning techniques that fuel sustainable business growth and prepare your team for what's next. My special guest is Yvonne Jackson Yvonne Jackson is an experienced business strategist specializing in organizational transformation, talent management, and operational equity. She has worked with major companies such as Apple and Oscar Health, where she led initiatives to align people strategies with core business objectives. Yvonne's expertise includes business process reengineering and identifying process-driven solutions to equity challenges, making her a sought-after advisor for organizations aiming to build high-performing, equitable teams. Her academic background spans the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, as well as international study in Thailand and Milan, giving her a broad perspective on leadership and team dynamics. As the founder of her own leadership consultancy, Yvonne combines practical experience with a global outlook, focusing on sustainable succession planning and the integration of equity into everyday business operations. The key moments in this episode are:00:02:43 - Yvonne Jackson's Background and Cross-Cultural Experiences 00:07:03 - Transitioning from DEI to Process-Driven Equity and Leadership 00:10:23 - Aligning Business Priorities with Equity for Sustainable Impact 00:12:53 - Operationalizing Equity through Process Improvement and Leadership Alignment 00:13:26 - Leveraging Tech and Process Reengineering in Talent Management 00:14:39 - Addressing Organizational Growth Challenges and Realignment Needs 00:17:19 - The Cost of Misalignment and Importance of Metrics in DEI 00:21:48 - Supporting Overwhelmed Leaders to Gain Strategic Clarity 00:25:32 - Revaluing Company Core Values as Decision-Making Tools 00:27:15 - Redesigning Organizational Values for Modern Equity and Decision-Making 00:31:09 - Embracing AI to Identify Workflow Inefficiencies and Drive Strategy 00:32:40 - Recommended Leadership Reading: The Courage to Be Disliked 00:34:07 - Prioritizing Sleep as a Key Productivity Ritual for Leaders 00:36:39 - Changing the World by Shifting Social Media Narratives 00:40:21 - Operationalizing Equity and Centering Humanity in the Future of Work Connect with Yvonne Jackson and her work by visiting her website or finding her on LinkedIn. Get 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp by visiting www.betterhelp.com/difference. Join the Master the Career Pivot course at www.loriadamsbrown.com/careerpivot 10% off with the code: DIFFERENT Rate and review the podcast by tapping 5 stars and leaving a quick review to help more difference makers find the show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Genna Smith, Director of Internal Audit at RYAM. She believes process improvement starts with mindset, and that even the smallest changes can lead to real impact. In this episode, she shares how she's using tools like ChatGPT to build SOPs from the ground up, standardize processes, and support her team through AI adoption. We also hear how she approaches ERM, why curiosity is her top hiring trait, and how rebuilding a 2007 Forerunner taught her lessons she brings into leadership. If you're interested in practical ways to improve your audit function or how to lead with intention, this one's for you. Be sure to connect with Genna on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 1:43 – How ChatGPT Can Support SOP Development 6:26 – Building an Effective Analytics Program 9:50 – The One Thing Every Auditor Should Do 11:15 – How Audit Can Support the Organization on Tariffs 13:05 – Playing a Key Role in ERM Facilitation 19:07 – What Successful ERM Change Looks Like 21:26 – Why Process Improvement Matters 29:00 – Demonstrating Real Impact Through Process Improvement 32:48 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
Apply for the Nov 2025 (limited spots remaining) or May 2026 Japan Leadership Experiencehttps://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/ When you encounter challenges or setbacks, and it feels like things just aren't going your way, it's easy to get caught into a downward negative spiral. But could simple mindset shifts change not just how you feel, but how you move forward and influence those around you with positive momentum?In this episode, I'm sharing three powerful reframes that have helped me reset, regain perspective, and move through challenges with intention and empowerment. These reframes aren't just personal practices—they're leadership strategies that can help you model resilience, learning, and agency, and inspire the people around you to do the same.This episode isn't about blind optimism or sugarcoating hard things. It's about real, actionable ways to reframe challenges and move forward with greater clarity, strength, and purpose.Learn the three reframes that have helped me (and the leaders I work with) get back up and lead with heart and intention.YOU'LL LEARN:How to reframe your focus from negative to positive and rise with more clarity and confidenceThe story behind the motto that inspires me daily –“Today's a great day” – and how gratitude can ground you in tough momentsWhy setbacks and failures aren't the end, but an opportunity to learn your way forwardHow the Japanese daruma doll became a lesson in resilience—representing the proverb “Fall down seven times, get up eight”How to move from feeling powerless to empowered and why the ball is always in your courtIMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/49Resources and ways to work with me: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my free KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst Read my book featuring lessons from Isao Yoshino's 40 years of Toyota Leadership: LearningToLeadLeadingToLearn.com TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:01:56 [1st REFRAME] Find the good—even when it's hard02:03 Katie's dad as the inspiration behind the motto, “Today's a great day”04:23 Isao Yoshino's influence in learning how to shift from negative to positive07:22 The importance of focusing on the good for improvement09:23 [2nd REFRAME] Seeing failures and setbacks as learning opportunities10:17 Why daruma dolls are a reminder of resilience and the Japanese proverb "Fall down seven times, get up eight"12:04 Questions to maintain a learning mindset12:33 The learning zone versus the performance zone from Chain of Learning Episode 5 guest Eduardo Bricino13:37 Reframe exercise to reframe failure to learning opportunity 15:17 [3rd REFRAME] Moving from powerlessness to agency15:51 Understanding, “The ball is in your court” to help how you respond to negative conditions17:07 Achieving goals versus fulfilling your intention18:14 Katie's previous organizational role and how a reframe launched her consulting practice20:19 How two executives used coaching and reflection to shift from solving problems themselves to enabling their teams21:26 Stepping away from frustration and reframing the problem to influence things differently22:51 Reframe exercise to move from inaction to action23:33 Summary of the three reframes25:31 Questions to help shape your day and impact Apply for the Nov 2025 or May 2026 Japan Leadership Experiencehttps://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/
In this episode of Remodelers On The Rise, Kyle sits down with Todd and Jill Johnson of Holly Home Renovations. Together, they share the story of how a talented craftsman and a physical therapist teamed up to start and grow a successful remodeling business focused on historic renovations in Minnesota. You'll hear how they've implemented systems step by step, embraced financial clarity, defined roles clearly, and built a business that supports their life—not the other way around. If you're thinking about bringing your spouse into the business or looking for inspiration on how to align your business with your personal values and goals, this one's for you. Tune in and take away practical ideas to strengthen your own remodeling business. ----- Ready to stop guessing and start growing? Visit Contractor Growth Network to see how they help remodelers like you build marketing that works. And for weekly insights that actually move the needle, tune into their podcast: https://www.contractorgrowthnetwork.com/podcast/ ----- Explore the vast array of tools, training courses, a podcast, and a supportive community of over 2,000 remodelers. Visit Remodelersontherise.com today and take your remodeling business to new heights! ----- Takeaways Your website should reflect your unique value proposition. Building trust with clients starts before the first call. Establishing clear roles in a partnership is crucial. Financial clarity is essential for business success. Utilizing technology can streamline operations. Community support can enhance business growth. Setting boundaries helps maintain work-life balance. Continuous improvement is key to operational efficiency. Defining your target market can lead to better projects. Contentment in business can lead to sustainable growth. ----- Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Holly Home Renovations 02:57 The Origin Story of Holly Home 09:46 Navigating Challenges and Growth 14:15 Establishing Financial Systems 22:54 Implementing Job Management Software 24:48 Financial Clarity and Business Transformation 27:33 Defining Roles and Responsibilities 35:01 Establishing Boundaries Between Work and Family 39:14 Building a Community in Remodeling 40:28 Vision for the Future of the Business
Unlock the power of Alteryx for tax professionals in this insightful episode of Alter Everything! Join us in an interview with Adrian Steller, Director of Tax Technology at Ryan, to explore how Alteryx revolutionizes tax processes, automates data workflows, and enhances efficiency for tax teams. Discover real-world Alteryx use cases in VAT compliance, transfer pricing, and automation, and learn practical tips for transitioning from Excel to Alteryx. Whether you're a tax analyst, data professional, or business leader, this episode provides actionable insights on leveraging Alteryx for tax data transformation, reporting, and analytics.Panelists: Adrian Steller, Director @ International Tax Technology - LinkedInMegan Bowers, Sr. Content Manager @ Alteryx - @MeganBowers, LinkedInShow notes: Ryan (Company)Ryan Tax Lab (Podcast)Alteryx Community BlogsAlteryx Help Docs Interested in sharing your feedback with the Alter Everything team? Take our feedback survey here!This episode was produced by Megan Bowers, Mike Cusic, and Matt Rotundo. Special thanks to Andy Uttley for the theme music.
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
Apply for the Nov 2025 or May 2026 Japan Leadership Experiencehttps://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/ You're implementing the tools.Making the improvements.Delivering the project results.But the same problems keep resurfacing and you're left wondering: What's missing?In this episode, Josef Procházka, a lean consultant from the Czech Republic, shares his personal journey of transformation—from frustrated practitioner to heart-led coach—and the impact his shift in approach to consulting has had for his clients and for himself.Josef began his career focused on tools, metrics, and deliverables. But something didn't feel right.After reading Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn and joining two of my Japan Leadership Experience programs, Josef experienced a transformation of both mind and heart. He found a more meaningful path: one centered on people, purpose, and intentional leadership.Whether you're an external consultant, internal improvement or operational leader, or simply looking to grow your impact—Josef's story is a reminder that real change doesn't come from better systems alone. This episode will challenge you to rethink how you show up to lead change, what transformation really requires, and what it means to lead with intention.YOU'LL LEARN:How Josef shifted from tool-based delivery to people-centered transformationWhat it looks like to reframe 5S (a workplace organizational practice) into a more meaningful, people-centered practiceThe mindset change required to stop “doing Lean” for others and start leading change with themWays personal growth can unlock deeper change for your clients and organizationsWhy sustainable improvement depends on connecting people and purpose—not just applying toolsABOUT MY GUEST:Josef Procházka is a Lean Six Sigma consultant from the Czech Republic with 20+ years of experience helping manufacturing companies improve productivity, streamline processes, and enhance quality through structured problem-solving and project leadership. He specializes in making Lean practices meaningful by translating tools like 5S and A3 into values-driven change that engages people at every level. IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/48My website for resources and ways to work with me: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my free KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalystApply for the Japan Leadership Experience: kbjanderson.com/japantripRead my book that played a role in Josef's leadership transformation: LearningToLeadLeadingToLearn.comTIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:03:13 How the Japan Leadership Experiences influenced Josef's transformation05:27 The “aha” shifts that helped his transformation07:59 Why Josef's approach was not making an impact11:00 Reframing 5S to meaningful 5S to increase productivity in a client's workplace17:30 The importance of bringing meaningfulness to create impact20:03 The negative effect of short-term focus without a long-term view22:33 Why Josef decided to come back to the Japan Leadership Experience 25:32 Why Katie is passionate about leading her Japan Leadership Experiences 28:12 The connection leaders feel after the immersive experience in Japan29:07 Positive transformations from two clients Josef invited to the Japan Leadership Experience33:29 Importance of continuing to learn and going towards the North star to be a better leader37:52 Why real leaders practice lean for their team39:21 Josef's story on going to the Japan Leadership Experience44:21 Advice to make a shift towards greater impact46:21 7 key steps to create real long-term impact Apply for the Nov 2025 or May 2026 Japan Leadership Experiencehttps://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/
What was it like to learn from Dr. Deming himself -- a decade before his name became legend in U.S. business circles? In this deeply personal episode, William Scherkenbach shares with host Andrew Stotz what it was like to sit in Deming's classroom in 1972, join him for late-night chats at the Cosmos Club, and help ignite transformational change at Ford and GM. Learn how Deming's teachings shaped a lifetime of purpose, and why Scherkenbach, now in his 80th year, is stepping back into the arena with lessons still burning bright. TRANSCRIPT 0:00:02.3 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz, and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today, I'm here with featured guest William Scherkenbach, and he is known as one of the men who has spent a huge amount of time with Dr. Deming, as he mentioned to me previously, starting from 1972, over a thousand meetings and many other activities that he's been involved in. So, Bill, welcome to the show. Why don't you give us a little background about you? 0:00:39.5 William Scherkenbach: Oh, okay. Good to be here, Andrew. Well, I'm going to start with, since it's about Deming, in '72, I was newly married in April, but had been accepted to NYU Graduate School of Business, and I don't know, I never found out who wrote the course syllabus, but whoever did wrote something that it sounded like a darn interesting course, sampling, manufacturing. I was a protocol officer at the United Nations at the time and was going to night school at the New York University Graduate School of Business. So, I said, this sounds like a good course, interesting course. Had no idea who Dr. Deming was, and I walked into the first class, and there was an old, I'm 26, so he was 72 in 1972, and he was one of the first, one of the only old person who didn't say, I used to be, and I don't want to stereotype all of my peers now that I'm 79, but hopefully I don't fall into the, well, I used to be and what happened. But he did tell, I mean, statistics can be a very technical subject, and the way he taught it, I had courses in some theory of sampling, which was one of his books. 0:02:52.2 William Scherkenbach: He had three, I said three courses. The other course that I took was based on his lectures in Japan in 1950, and in fact, two of them. The third course was an extension of that. So, he was, he would teach the statistics, but he was able to tell the history of the people behind all of the thoughts and the formulas and approaches, and I found that extremely, extremely interesting. And he handed out tons of papers and material, and it was just a very, very good experience. I know he had, and he had, in my opinion, a great sense of humor, but then statisticians, what's our status? Yeah, we're like accountants, in any event. . 0:04:12.2 Andrew Stotz: Why was he teaching? I mean, at 72, most men, you know, maybe women also, but most of us are like, it's the twilight of our years, and we now know he had 30 more years to go, but why was he teaching? And also, what's interesting is when I think about Deming, I think about his overall system of what he's teaching, whereas it's interesting to think about how he taught one relatively narrow subject. 0:04:43.7 William Scherkenbach: I'll get to that as to why I think he was teaching. But yeah, back then there were no 14 Points, no glimmer of Profound Knowledge. It was, not theoretical statistics, but applied statistics with a theory behind it. And he still was really expanding on Shewhart 's work with the difference between enumerative and analytic. He used his own. Now, why he was teaching, years later, probably 1987, so yeah, a bunch of years later, when I was at Ford and I had attended at the time, I attended a senior executive week-long get-together in order to get constancy of purpose or more continuity in the senior executive group. One of the people we brought in was Dr. Peter Kastenbaum. And I found as I attended his lecture in that week-long meeting, he was a student of CI Lewis. And CI Lewis, Deming learned about from Walter Shewhart and his work in the epistemology theory of knowledge. And in any event, Deming, when he was asked, and at the time it was still in the '30s, I think, when he was at the School of Agriculture, or the agriculture department, and bringing in Shewhart, he had tried to get CI Lewis to come talk. And CI said, I would love to, but I have a commitment to my students. And so I can't adjust my schedule. 0:07:33.9 William Scherkenbach: And the students, the people who wanted to learn were sacred. And I think that had a huge impact on Dr. Deming. I mean, he spoke about it a lot. And the way, you know, in a lot of the videos that Clare Crawford-Mason did, lovingly called the old curmudgeon. But for students, he had the greatest empathy and charity for, he just didn't suffer fools gladly. If you showed him that you weren't willing to learn, he took great joy in letting them know where they, where they stood. 0:08:43.1 Andrew Stotz: And one of the things when I went into my first Deming seminar in 1990, so now we're fast forwarding 30 years from when you first met him. It was almost like there was a safe harbor for workers, for young people, for people with open minds. I mean, I didn't, I watched as he didn't suffer fools, but I'm just curious, when you go back to 1972 in those classes, I'm assuming that he was pretty gentle with the students, encouraging them and all that was... 0:09:19.0 William Scherkenbach: Oh, absolutely. In my experience, I mean, if you were by, you know, in a student in graduate school, even though the graduate school of business in New York, down on 90 Church Street, Wall Street area, there were very few people going directly from your bachelor's to the master's program. And so these were people that had probably 10 years experience in business doing stuff. And yet by going to the class, absolutely were willing to learn, listen to different points of view, which is absolutely crucial. As you progress with theory of knowledge to be able to get different perspectives on whatever it is you're trying to look at. 0:10:23.2 Andrew Stotz: I would like to continue on this period of time just because it's a snapshot we don't get that often or that easily. You mentioned CI Lewis, a man who lived from about 1880 to about the year I was born, around 1964-65, and he was known for his understanding and discussion about logic and things like that. But why was CI Lewis someone that was interesting to Dr. Deming? What was the connection from your perspective? 0:10:59.6 William Scherkenbach: Well, my understanding is Shewhart referred to him, and Lewis was a professor at Harvard, and he was in the Peirce, I believe it's called. It looks like Peirce, but it's Peirce School of, or Chair of Philosophy, and Charles Sanders Peirce was a huge, huge influence in epistemology. And so that whole chain of thought or train of thought interested Deming, but it really was, he was introduced to it by Walter Shewhart. 0:11:48.3 Andrew Stotz: There's a famous quote, I believe, by Deming about CI Lewis and his book Mind and the World Order. 0:11:56.0 William Scherkenbach: Mind and the World Order, yeah. 0:11:59.9 Andrew Stotz: Deming said he had to read it six times before he fully understood and could apply its insights. And sometimes I think maybe Dr. Deming was truly inspired by that because when I think about his work, I'm still reading it and rereading it. And just listening to the video that you did many years ago with Tim talking about reduced variation, reduced variation, what he was talking about. Sometimes when we see the big picture, there's many different components of Deming's teachings. But if you had to bring it down to kind of its core, you know, he mentioned on that video that I just watched this morning, he mentioned reduced variation, and that will get you lower costs, happier customers, more jobs. How would you say, after you've looked at it from so many different angles over so many different years, how would you say you would sum up Dr. Deming's message to the world? 0:13:01.5 William Scherkenbach: Well, that's a difficult thing to sum up. Back then, when we did the video, which was in the early '80s, maybe '84, again, he had his 14 Points by then, but he hadn't, it hadn't really, the Profound Knowledge part of that wasn't there. Now, he had used what Shewhart said, and he had read, tried to read CI Lewis, and when he spoke about the connection between theory and questions, that's what he got from Shewhart and, well, and from Lewis, and a bunch of other pragmatist philosophers. So, he, you know, he was influenced by it, and, well, that's all I can say. 0:14:27.5 Andrew Stotz: So, let's go back in time. So, you're sitting in this classroom, you're intrigued, inspired. How did the relationship go at, towards the end of the class, and then as you finished that class, how did you guys keep in touch, and how did the relationship develop? 0:14:51.0 William Scherkenbach: Well, that is an interesting story. I usually am, well, I am introverted. So I had, after I moved from New York, I got a job at Booz Allen and Hamilton in Washington, DC. So in '74, when I got the degree from NYU, we moved to Silver Spring. And obviously, he's lived on Butterworth Place since there was a Butterworth Place. So we were able to, one of the things, and this is, well, I will say it, one of his advice to me, although he gave everyone an A, I later kidded him, he didn't remember that he gave me a B. No, he gave me an A. In any event, but one of his piece of advice was, you really don't need to join ASQC. You know more about quality than any of those inspectors. And so he had learned from the '50s in the past 20 years from the 50s that inspection wasn't going to do it. Well, I didn't take his advice, and I joined ASQC, and I was reading... 0:16:36.1 Andrew Stotz:Which for those who don't know is the American Society for... 0:16:41.6 William Scherkenbach: Quality Control, back then, now it's just the American Society for Quality. I had recommended when we did a big recommendations and forecasts for the year 2000 that quality, it should be the Society for Quality worldwide, but it's ASQ now. Let's see. 0:17:07.7 Andrew Stotz: So he recommended you don't join and you didn't follow his recommendation. 0:17:12.1 William Scherkenbach: I don't join, and I read an article, and it was by a professor in Virginia Tech, and he was showing a c-chart and the data were in control, and his recommendations were to penalize the people that were high and reward the people that were low, which is even back then, Dr. Deming was absolutely on track with that. If your process is in control, it doesn't make any sense to rank order or think that any of them are sufficiently different to reward or penalize. And I had never done this, but it was, I wrote a letter to quality progress. I sent a copy to Dr. Deming, and he said, "By golly, you're right on, that's great." And so I think it probably was '75, yeah, 1975. So I had been a year or so out, and he started inviting me over to his place at Butterworth, and we would go to the Cosmos Club. And that was a logistical challenge because at the time he had, well, his garage was a separate, not attached, it was in the backyard and emptied onto an alley. And he had a huge Lincoln Continental, the ones with the doors that opened from the center. 0:19:29.0 William Scherkenbach: And he would get in and drive and then park it in back of the club and someone would watch over it. But those were some good memories. So that was my introduction to keep contact with him. As I said, I had never done that. I don't think I've written a letter to an editor ever again. 0:20:04.8 Andrew Stotz: And you're mentioning about Butterworth, which is in DC. 0:20:12.6 William Scherkenbach: Butterworth Place, yeah. 0:20:14.7 Andrew Stotz: And Butterworth Place where he had his consulting business, which he ran, I believe, out of his basement. 0:20:18.3 William Scherkenbach: Out of the basement, yep, yep, yep. 0:20:21.2 Andrew Stotz: And just out of curiosity, what was it like when you first went to his home? Here, you had met him as your teacher, you respected him, you'd been away for a little bit, he invited you over. What was that like on your first walk into his home? 0:20:38.5 William Scherkenbach: Well, went down the side, the entrance to the basement was on the side of the house, and Seal had her desk set up right by the door. And then, I don't know if you can see, this is neat compared to his desk. It was filled with books and papers, but he knew where everything was. But it was a very cordial atmosphere. 0:21:25.2 Andrew Stotz: So when you mentioned Cecelia Kilian, is that her name, who was his assistant at the time? 0:21:36.3 William Scherkenbach: Yes, yes. 0:21:38.0 Andrew Stotz: Okay, so you... 0:21:38.8 William Scherkenbach: Yeah. For Jeepers. I don't know how long, but it had to be 50 years or so. So I don't, I mean, back in the '70s, I don't know of any other. He might have had, well, okay. He, yeah. 0:22:01.1 Andrew Stotz: I think it's about 40 or 50 years. So that's an incredible relationship he had with her. And I believe she wrote something. I think I have one of her, a book that she wrote that described his life. I can't remember that one right now but... 0:22:14.2 William Scherkenbach: Yeah. A lot of, yeah, it contained a lot of... 0:22:16.6 Andrew Stotz: The World of Dr. W. Edwards Deming, I think was the name of it, yeah. 0:22:20.6 William Scherkenbach: Okay. It contained a lot of his diaries on a number of his visits to Japan and elsewhere. 0:22:32.1 Andrew Stotz: So for some of us, when we go into our professor's offices, we see it stacked full of papers, but they've been sitting there for years. And we know that the professor just doesn't really do much with it. It's just all sitting there. Why did he have so much stuff on it? Was it incoming stuff that was coming to him? Was it something he was writing? Something he was reading? What was it that was coming in and out of his desk? 0:22:55.7 William Scherkenbach: A combination of stuff. I don't know. I mean, he was constantly writing, dictating to seal, but writing and reading. He got a, I mean, as the decades proceeded out of into the '80s, after '82, the NBC white or the '80, the NBC white paper calls were coming in from all over, all over the world. So yeah, a lot of people sending him stuff. 0:23:35.8 Andrew Stotz: I remember seeing him pulling out little scraps of paper at the seminar where he was taking notes and things like that at '90. So I could imagine he was just prolific at jotting things down. And when you read what he wrote, he really is assembling a lot of the notes and things that he's heard from different people. You can really capture that. 0:23:59.0 William Scherkenbach: Yeah. He didn't have an identic memory, but he took notes and quite, you know, and what he would do at the end of the day before retiring, he'd review the notes and commit them to memory as best he could. So he, yeah, very definitely. I mean, we would, you know, and well, okay. We're still in the early days before Ford and GM, but. 0:24:37.6 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. And I want to, if I shoot forward to '90, '92, when I studied with him, I was impressed with his energy at his age and he was just on a mission. And when I hear about your discussion about the class and at that time, it's like he was forming his, you know, System of Profound Knowledge, his 14 Points. When do you think it really became a mission for him to help, let's say American industry? 0:25:09.0 William Scherkenbach: Oh, well, I think it was a mission when Ford began its relationship with him. The ability of a large corporation, as well, and Ford at the same time Pontiac, the Pontiac division, not the whole GM, but Pontiac, was learning as well. But the attachment to Ford was that you had Don Peterson at the time was president of Ford, and he was intellectually curious, and he and Deming were on the same frequency. Now, I don't want to jump ahead, but if anyone has, well, you've read my second book there, you'll know that I have mentioned that the way to change is physical, logical, and emotional. And when you look at the gurus back then, there was Deming, who was the logical guru. You had Phil Crosby, who was the emotional guru. You go to the flag and the wine and cheese party, and Deming would say, "No," and Joe Juran, who was interested in focusing on the physical organization, you report to me kind of a thing. And so each of these behemoths were passing each other in the night with the greatest respect. But, but, and so they had their constituents. The challenge is to be able to broaden the appeal. 0:27:33.8 Andrew Stotz: So we've gone through '72, and then now '75, you've written your piece, and he's brought you into the fold. You're starting to spend some time with him. I believe it was about 1981 or so when he started working with Ford. And at that time, the quality director, I think, was Larry Moore at the time. And of course, you mentioned Donald Peterson. Maybe you can help us now understand from your own perspective of what you were doing between that time and how you saw that happening. 0:28:13.4 William Scherkenbach: Well, I had, my career was, after Booz Allen, mostly in the quality reliability area. I went from Booz Allen and Hamilton to, I moved to Columbia, Maryland, because I can fondly remember my grandfather in Ironwood, Michigan, worked at the Oliver Mine. There's a lot of iron ore mines up in the UP. ANd he would, and his work, once he got out of the mines later on, was he would cut across the backyard, and his office was right there. And so he would walk home for lunch and take a nap and walk back. And I thought that really was a good style of life. So Columbia, Maryland, was designed by Rouse to be a live-in, work-in community. And so we were gonna, we moved to Columbia, and there was a consulting firm called Hitman Associates, and their specialty was energy and environmental consulting. So did a bunch of that, worked my way up to a vice president. And so, but in '81, Deming said, you know, Ford really is interested. He was convinced, and again, it's déjà vu, he spoke about, when he spoke fondly about his lectures in Japan in 1950 and onward, that he was, he was very concerned that top management needed to be there, because he had seen all the excitement at Stanford during the war, and it died out afterwards, because management wasn't involved. 0:30:42.8 Andrew Stotz: What do you mean by that? What do you mean by the excitement at Stanford? You mean people working together for the efforts of the war, or was there a particular thing that was happening at Stanford? 0:30:51.7 William Scherkenbach: Well, they were, he attributed it to the lack of management support. I mean, they learned SPC. We were able to improve quality of war material or whatever, whoever attended the Stanford courses. But he saw the same thing in Japan and was lucky to, and I'm not sure if it was Ishikawa. I'm just not sure, but he was able to get someone to make the call after a few of the seminars for the engineers to make the call to the top management to attend the next batch. And he was able, he was able to do that. And that he thought was very helpful. I, I, gave them a leg up on whatever steps were next. I'm reminded of a quote from, I think it was Lao Tzu. And he said that someone asked him, "Well, you talk to the king, why or the emperor, why are things so screwed up?" And he said, "Well, I get to talk to him an hour a week and the rest of the time his ears are filled with a bunch of crap." Or whatever the Chinese equivalent of that is. And he said, "Of course the king isn't going to be able to act correctly." Yeah, there are a lot of things that impacted any company that he helped. 0:33:07.6 Andrew Stotz: It's interesting because I believe that, I think it was Kenichi Koyanagi. 0:33:15.8 William Scherkenbach: Koyanagi, yes, it was. 0:33:17.8 Andrew Stotz: And it was in 1950 and he had a series of lectures that he did a series of times. But it's interesting that, you know, that seemed like it should have catapulted him, but then to go to where you met him in 1972 and all that, he still hadn't really made his impact in America. And that's, to me, that's a little bit interesting. 0:33:44.4 William Scherkenbach: Yeah, and quite, my take, I mean, you could tell even in '72 and '3 in classes, he was very frustrated that he wasn't being listened to. I mean, he had, his business was expert testimony in statistical design of surveys. He did road truck, truck transport studies to be able to help the interstate commerce commission. And made periodic trips back to Japan, well known in Japan, but frustrated that no one really knew about him or wasn't listening to him in the US. And that was, I mean, for years, that was my, my aim. And that is to help him be known for turning America around, not just Japan. But it's usually difficult. I mean, we did a great job at Ford and GM and a bunch of companies, but it's all dissipated. 0:35:25.9 Andrew Stotz: It's interesting because it's not like he just went as a guest and gave a couple of guest lectures. He did about 35 lectures in 1950. About 28 or almost 30 of them were to engineers and technical staff. And then about seven of them were to top level executives. And, you know, one of the quotes he said at the time from those lectures was, "the problem is at the top, quality is made in the boardroom." So just going back, that's 1950, then you meet him in 1970, then in '72, then you start to build this relationship. You've talked about Booz Allen Hamilton. Tell us more about how it progressed into working more with him, in particular Ford and that thing that started in, let's say, 1981 with Ford. 0:36:22.0 William Scherkenbach: Well, again, he was very enthusiastic about Ford because Peterson was very receptive to this, his approach. And again, it's, I think the British philosopher Johnson said, "there's nothing like the prospect of being hung in the morning to heighten a man's senses." So he, Ford had lost a couple billion bucks. They hadn't cashed in like Chrysler. GM lost a bunch too, but that, and Japan had lost a war. So does it take a significant emotional, logical, or physical event? For some folks it does. So he was very encouraged about what he was seeing at Ford. And he had recommended that Ford hire someone to be there full time to coordinate, manage, if you will. And I was one of the people he recommended and I was the one that Ford hired. So I came in as Director of Statistical Methods and Process Improvement. And they set it up outside, as Deming said, they set it up outside the quality. Larry Moore was the Director of Quality and I was Director of Statistical Methods. And that's the way it was set up. 0:38:08.0 Andrew Stotz: Were you surprised when you received that call? How did you feel when you got that call to say, "Why don't you go over there and do this job at Ford?" 0:38:18.6 William Scherkenbach: Oh, extremely, extremely happy. Yeah. Yeah. 0:38:23.1 Andrew Stotz: And so did you, did you move to Michigan or what did you do? 0:38:27.7 Andrew Stotz: I'm sorry? 0:38:29.4 Andrew Stotz: Did you move or what happened next as you took that job? 0:38:32.0 William Scherkenbach: Oh yeah, we were living in Columbia. We moved the family to the Detroit area and ended up getting a house in Northville, which is a Northwest suburb of Detroit. 0:38:49.9 Andrew Stotz: And how long were you at Ford? 0:38:53.8 William Scherkenbach: About five and a half years. And I left Ford because Deming thought that GM needed my help. Things were going well. I mean, had a great, great bunch of associates, Pete Chessa, Ed Baker, Narendra Sheth, and a bunch of, a bunch of other folks. Ed Baker took the directorship when I left. That was my, well, I recommended a number of them, but yeah, he followed on. Deming thought that there was a good organization set up. And me being a glutton for punishment went to, well, not really. A bunch of great, great people in GM, but it's, they were, each of the general managers managed a billion dollar business and a lot of, difficult to get the silos to communicate. And it really, there was not much cooperation, a lot of backstabbing. 0:40:25.0 Andrew Stotz: And how did Dr. Deming take this project on? And what was the relationship between him and, you know, let's say Donald Peterson, who was the running the company and all the people that he had involved, like yourself, and you mentioned about Ed Baker and other people, I guess, Sandy Munro and others that were there. And just curious, and Larry Moore, how did he approach that? That's a huge organization and he's coming in right at the top. What was his approach to handling that? 0:41:02.1 S2 Well, my approach was based on his recommendation that the Director of Statistical Methods should report directly to the president or the chairman, the president typically. And so based on that, I figured that what I would, how we would organize the office, my associates would each be assigned to a key vice president to be their alter ego. So we did it in a, on a divisional level. And that worked, I think, very well. The difficulty was trying to match personalities and expertise to the particular vice president. Ed Baker had very good relations with the Latin American organization, and, and he and Harry Hannett, Harold Hannett helped a lot in developing administrative applications as well. And so we sort of came up with a matrix of organization and discipline. We needed someone for finance and engineering and manufacturing, supply chain, and was able to matrix the office associates in to be able to be on site with those people to get stuff, to get stuff done. 0:43:09.5 Andrew Stotz: And what was your message at that time, and what was Dr. Deming's message? Because as we know, his message has come together very strongly after that. But at that point, it's not like he had the 14 Points that he could give them Out of the Crisis or you could give them your books that you had done. So what was like the guiding philosophy or the main things that you guys were trying to get across? 0:43:35.9 William Scherkenbach: Well, I mean, he had given in, I think, Quality, Productivity, Competitive Position back in the late '70s, and he was doing it through George Washington University, even though Myron Tribus at MIT published it. But it was a series of lectures, and he didn't really, even in the later 70s, didn't have the, the, the 14 Points. And so those came a couple years later, his thinking through, and Profound Knowledge didn't come until much later over a number of discussions of folks. But the, I mean, the key, I mean, my opinion of why it all dropped out is we dropped the ball in not working with the board. And at Ford, we didn't, weren't able to influence the Ford family. And so Peterson retires and Red Poling, a finance guy, steps in and, and everything slowly disintegrates. At least not disintegrates, well, yes. I mean, what was important under Peterson was different. But that happens in any company. A new CEO comes on board or is elected, and they've got their priorities based, as Deming would say, on their evaluation system. What's their, how are they compensated? 0:45:46.8 William Scherkenbach: And so we just didn't spend the time there nor at GM with how do you elect or select your next CEO? And so smaller companies have a better, I would think, well, I don't know. I would imagine smaller companies have a better time of that, especially closely held and family held companies. You could, if you can reach the family, you should be able to get some continuity there. 0:46:23.5 Andrew Stotz: So Donald Peterson stepped down early 1995. And when did you guys make or when did you make your transition from Ford to GM? 0:46:38.5 William Scherkenbach: '88. 0:46:39.6 Andrew Stotz: Okay, so you continued at Ford. 0:46:42.1 William Scherkenbach: The end of '88, yeah, and I left GM in '93, the year Dr. Deming died later. But I had left in, in, well, in order to help him better. 0:47:07.8 Andrew Stotz: And let's now talk about the transition over to General Motors that you made. And where did that come from? Was it Dr. Deming that was recommending it or someone from General Motors? Or what... 0:47:21.4 William Scherkenbach: Yeah, Deming spoke with them and spoke with me. And I was a willing worker to be able to go where he thought I could be most helpful. 0:47:41.9 Andrew Stotz: And was he exasperated or frustrated that for the changes that happened in '95 when Peterson stepped down, he started to see the writing on the wall? Or was he still hopeful? 0:47:55.4 William Scherkenbach: No, Deming died in '93, so he didn't see any of that. 0:47:58.9 Andrew Stotz: No, no, what I mean is when Peterson stepped down, it was about '85. And then you remain at Ford until '88. 0:48:08.0 William Scherkenbach: No, Peterson didn't step down in '85. I mean, he was still there when I left. 0:48:14.0 Andrew Stotz: So he was still chairman at the time. 0:48:17.3 William Scherkenbach: Yeah. 0:48:17.6 Andrew Stotz: Maybe I'm meaning he stepped down from president. So my mistake on that. 0:48:20.3 William Scherkenbach: Oh, but he was there. 0:48:24.3 Andrew Stotz: So when did it start... 0:48:25.9 William Scherkenbach: True. I mean, true, he was still there when Deming had died. 0:48:31.3 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, okay. So did the whole team leave Ford and go to GM or was it just you that went? 0:48:39.1 William Scherkenbach: Oh, just me. Just me. 0:48:42.8 Andrew Stotz: Okay. And then. 0:48:44.0 William Scherkenbach: Yeah, because we had set up something that Deming was very pleased with. And so they were, everyone was working together and helping one another. 0:48:59.5 Andrew Stotz: Okay. So then you went to General Motors. What did you do different? What was different in your role? What did you learn from Ford that you now brought to GM? What went right? What went wrong? What was your experience with GM at that time? 0:49:16.5 William Scherkenbach: Well, I've got a, let's see. Remember Bill Hoagland was the person, Hoagland managed Pontiac when Deming helped Pontiac and Ron Moen was involved in the Pontiac. But Bill Hoagland was in one of the reorganizations at GM was head of, he was group, group vice president for Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac. And so I went over and directly reported to him and each of the, I mean, Wendy Coles was in, Gypsy Rainey, although Gypsy was temporary, worked for powertrain and Pontiac and still, but powertrain was where a lot of the expertise was and emphasis was, and then Buick and Cadillac and so, and Oldsmobile. So we, and in addition to that, General Motors had a corporate-wide effort in cooperation with the UAW called the Quality Network. And I was appointed a member of that, of that and, and helped them a lot and as well as the corporate quality office, but focused on Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac. 0:51:18.6 Andrew Stotz: And then tell us about what was your next step in your own personal journey? And then let's now get into how you got more involved with Deming and his teachings and the like. 0:51:32.8 William Scherkenbach: Well, I mean, he would be at GM two and three days a month, and then every quarter he'd be here for, just like Ford, for a four-day seminar. And while at Ford and at GM, I took uh vacation to help him as he gave seminars and met people throughout the world. Even when he was probably 84, 85, I can remember, well, one of the, he always, not always, but he would schedule seminars in England over the Fourth of July because the English don't celebrate that, although he said perhaps they should, but right after the Ascot races. And so he would do four-day seminars. And on one case, we had one series of weeks, the week before Fourth of July, we did a four-day seminar in the US and then went to London to do another four-day seminar. And he went to South Africa for the next four-day seminar with Heero Hacquebord. I didn't go, but I went down to Brazil and I was dragging with that, with that schedule. So he was able to relish and enjoy the helping others. I mean, enjoy triggers a memory. We were at helping powertrain and Gypsy was there, Dr. Gypsy Rainey. 0:53:59.2 William Scherkenbach: And she, we were talking and goofing around and he started being cross at us. And Gypsy said, "Well, aren't we supposed to be having fun?" And Deming said, "I'm having fun." "You guys straighten out." Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy, yeah. 0:54:40.6 Andrew Stotz: And for the typical person to imagine a man at the age of 80, 85, traveling around the world. And it's not like you're traveling on vacation in London, you're walking into a room full of people, your energy is up, you're going and it's not like he's giving a keynote speech for an hour, give us a picture of his energy. 0:55:09.5 William Scherkenbach: And over in London, it was brutal because the hotel, I forget what hotel we're in. When he started there, I think it was Dr. Bernard that he wanted to help. And Bernard wasn't available. So he recommended Henry Neave. And so Henry was a good student, a quick learner. So he helped on a few of them. And I can still remember, I mean, the air, it was 4th of July in London and the humidity was there. There's no air conditioning in the hotel. I could remember Henry, please forgive me, but Henry is sitting in his doorway, sitting on a trash can, doing some notes in his skivvies. And it was hot and humid and awful. But so it reminded Deming a lot of the lectures in Japan in 1950, where he was sweating by 8 AM in the morning. So, yeah. 0:56:30.6 Andrew Stotz: What was it that kept him going? Why was he doing this? 0:56:39.5 William Scherkenbach: I think he, again, I don't know. I never asked him that. He was very, to me, he was on a mission. He wanted to be able to help people live better, okay, and take joy in what they do. And so he was, and I think that was the driving thing. And as long as he had the stamina, he was, he was in, in, in heaven. 0:57:21.1 Andrew Stotz: So let's keep progressing now, and let's move forward towards the latter part of Dr. Deming's life, where we're talking about 1990, 1988, 1990, 1992. What changed in your relationship and your involvement with what he was doing, and what changes did you see in the way he was talking about? You had observed him back in 1972, so here he is in 1990, a very, very different man in some ways, but very similar. How did you observe that? 0:57:56.6 William Scherkenbach: Well, toward the end, it was, I mean, it was, it was not, not pleasant to see him up there with oxygen up his nose, and it just, there had to have been a better way. But Nancy Mann was running those seminars, and they did their best to make life comfortable, but there had to have been a better way to, but I don't know what it was. He obviously wanted to continue to do it, and he had help doing it, but I don't know how effective the last year of seminars were. 0:59:01.1 Andrew Stotz: Well, I mean, I would say in some ways they were very effective, because I attended in 1990 and 1992, and I even took a picture, and I had a picture, and in the background of the picture of him is a nurse, and for me, I just was blown away and knocked out. And I think that one of the things for the listeners and the viewers is to ask yourself, we're all busy doing our work, and we're doing a lot of activities, and we're accomplishing things, but for what purpose, for what mission? And I think that that's what I gained from him is that because he had a mission to help, as you said, make the world a better place, make people have a better life in their job, and help people wake up, that mission really drove him. 0:59:57.8 William Scherkenbach: Yeah, and it, it really did. But for me personally, it was just not pleasant to see him suffering. 1:00:09.6 Andrew Stotz: And was he in pain? Was he just exhausted? What was it like behind the scenes when he'd come off stage and take a break? 1:00:18.7 William Scherkenbach: Yeah, yeah. 1:00:20.8 Andrew Stotz: And would he take naps or? 1:00:23.2 William Scherkenbach: In the early days, we'd go to, well, at Ford and GM, we would go out to dinner just about every night and talk and enjoy the conversation. We'd, my wife Mary Ellen, went many, many times. He enjoyed Northville, some of the restaurants there, and enjoyed the Deming martinis after the meetings at the Cosmos Club. So very, very much he enjoyed that, that time off the podium. So, but he couldn't do that in the, in the later years. 1:01:28.7 Andrew Stotz: And let's now try to understand the progression as you progress away from General Motors and did other things. How did your career progress in those years until when you retired or to where you are now? Maybe give us a picture of that. 1:01:51.4 William Scherkenbach: I tried to help. I've developed my view on how to operationalize change, worked for, was vice president of a company in Taiwan, spent a couple of, and before that had helped Dell, and would spend probably ending up a couple of years in PRC and Taiwan, and growing and learning to learn, in my opinion, there's too much generalization of, well, Asians or Chinese or whatever. There are many, many subgroups, and so change has to be bespoke. What will work for one person won't work for another. For instance, trying to talk to a number of Chinese executives saying, drive out fear, and they will, oh, there's no fear here. It's respect. And so, yeah. But that was their sincere belief that what they were doing wasn't instilling fear. But it broadened my perspective on what to do. And then probably 10 years ago, my wife started to come down with Alzheimer's, and while we lived in Austin, Texas, and that I've spent, she died three years ago, but that was pretty much all-consuming. That's where I focused. And now it's been three years. I'm looking, and I'm a year younger than Deming when he started, although he was 79 when he was interviewed for the 1980 White Paper. 1:04:36.3 William Scherkenbach: So I'm in my 80th year. So, and I'm feeling good, and I also would like to help people. 1:04:46.6 Andrew Stotz: And I've noticed on your LinkedIn, you've started bringing out interesting papers and transcripts and so many different things that you've been coming out. What is your goal? What is your mission? 1:05:02.3 William Scherkenbach: Well, I also would like to take the next step and contribute to help the improvement, not just the US, but any organization that shows they're serious for wanting to, wanting to improve. On the hope, and again, it's hope, as Deming said, that to be able to light a few bonfires that would turn into prairie fires that might consume more and more companies. And so you've got to light the match somewhere. And I just don't know. Again, I've been out of it for a number of years, but I just don't know. I know there is no big company besides, well, but even Toyota. I can remember Deming and I were in California and had dinner. Toyoda-san and his wife invited Deming and me to a dinner. And just, I was blown away with what he understood responsibilities were. I don't know, although I do have a Toyota Prius plug-in, which is perfect because I'm getting 99 miles a gallon because during my, doing shopping and whatever here in Pensacola, I never use gas. It goes 50 miles without needing to plug in. 1:07:00.6 William Scherkenbach: And so I do my stuff. But when I drive to Texas or Michigan, Michigan mostly to see the family, it's there. But all over, it's a wonderful vehicle. So maybe they're the only company in the world that, but I don't know. I haven't sat down with their executive. 1:07:26.4 Andrew Stotz: And behind me, I have two of your books, and I just want to talk briefly about them and give some advice for people. The first one is The Deming Route to Quality and Productivity: Roadmaps and Roadblocks, and the second one is Deming's Road to Continual Improvement. Maybe you could just give some context of someone who's not read these books and they're new to the philosophy and all that. How do these books, how can they help them? 1:07:58.8 William Scherkenbach: Well, the first book, Deming asked me to write in, I think it was '84. And I don't remember the first edition, but it might be '85, we got it out. But he asked me to write it, and because he thought I would, I could reach a different audience, and he liked it so much, they handed it out in a number of his seminars for a number of years. So. 1:08:40.7 Andrew Stotz: And there's my original version of it. I'm holding up my... 1:08:47.0 William Scherkenbach: Yeah, that's a later version. 1:08:49.7 Andrew Stotz: And it says the first printing was '86, I think it said, and then I got a 1991 version, which maybe I got it at one of the, I'm sure I got it at one of the seminars, and I've had it, and I've got marks on it and all that. And Deming on the back of it said, "this book will supplement and enhance my own works in teaching. Mr. Scherkenbach's masterful understanding of a system, of a process, of a stable system, and of an unstable system are obvious and effective in his work as well as in his teaching." And I know that on Deming's Road to Continual Improvement, you do a good amount of discussion at the beginning about the difference between a process and a system to try to help people understand those types of things. How should a reader, where should they start? 1:09:42.8 William Scherkenbach: Well, not with chapter six, as in CI Lewis, but well, I don't know what... I don't remember what chapter six is. As I said, the first book, and a lot of people after that did it, is essentially not regurgitating, but saying in a little bit different words about Deming's 14 Points. What I did on the first book is arrange them in the order that I think, and groupings that I think the 14 Points could be understood better. The second book was, the first half was reviewing the Deming philosophy, and the second half is how you would go about and get it done. And that's where the physiological, emotional, and all of my studies on operationalizing anything. 1:10:55.4 Andrew Stotz: And in chapter three on page 98, you talk about physical barriers, and you talk about physical, logical, emotional. You mentioned a little bit of that when you talked about the different gurus out there in quality, but this was a good quote. It says, Dr. Deming writes about the golfer who cannot improve his game because he's already in the state of statistical control. He points out that you have only one chance to train a person. Someone whose skill level is in statistical control will find great difficulty improving his skills. 1:11:32.1 William Scherkenbach: Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, well, you're old enough to know the Fosbury Flop. I mean, for all high jumpers did the straddle in jumping and made some great records, but many of them had difficulty converting their straddle to the Fosbury Flop to go over backwards head first. And that's what got you better performance. So anything, whether it's golf or any skill, if you've got to change somehow, you've got to be able to change the system, which is whether you're in production or whether it's a skill. If you're in control, that's your opportunity to impact the system to get better. 1:12:40.3 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, and this was Dick Fosbury in 1968, Mexico City Olympics, where he basically went in and blew everybody away by going in and flipping over backwards when everybody else was straddling or scissors or something like that. And this is a great story. 1:12:57.0 William Scherkenbach: You can't do that. [laughter] 1:12:58.8 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, and it's a great story of something on the outside. An outsider came in and changed the system rather than an existing person within it. And that made me think about when you talked about Ford and having an outsider helping in the different departments. You know, what extent does that reflect the way that we learn? You know, can we learn internally, or do we need outside advice and influence to make the big changes? 1:13:29.7 William Scherkenbach: Yeah. I mean, we had a swim coach, Higgins, at the Naval Academy, and he was known for, again, following in Olympic swimming. And I'm probably going to get the strokes wrong, but there was no such thing as a butterfly stroke. And he used it in swimming the breaststroke, and supposedly the only criteria was recovery had to be underwater with two hands. But I'm screwing up the story, I'm sure, but Higgins rewrote, rewrote the book by doing something a little bit different or drastically different. 1:14:25.4 Andrew Stotz: I'd like to wrap up this fascinating discovery, or journey of discovery of you and your relationship also with Dr. Deming. Let's wrap it up by talking about kind of your final memories of the last days of Dr. Deming and how you kind of put that all in context for your own life. And having this man come in your life and bring you into your life, I'm curious, towards the end of his life, how did you process his passing as well as his contribution to your life? 1:15:08.1 William Scherkenbach: That's, that's difficult and personal. I, he was a great mentor, a great friend, a great teacher, a great person, and with, on a mission with a name and impacted me. I was very, very lucky to be able to, when I look back on it, to recognize, to sign up for his courses, and then the next thing was writing that letter to the editor and fostering that relationship. Very, very, very difficult. But, I mean, he outlived a bunch of folks that he was greatly influenced by, and the mission continues. 1:16:34.1 Andrew Stotz: And if Dr. Deming was looking down from heaven and he saw that you're kind of reentering the fray after, you know, your struggles as you've described with your wife and the loss of your wife, what would he say to you now? What would he say as your teacher over all those years? 1:16:56.3 William Scherkenbach: Do your best. 1:16:59.0 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, wonderful. 1:17:01.4 William Scherkenbach: He knows, but he knows I know what to do. So, you need to know what to do and then to do the best. But I was, I mean, he was very, he received, and I forget the year, but he was at Ford and he got a call from Cel that his wife was not doing well. And so we, I immediately canceled everything and got him to the airport and he got to spend that last night with his wife. And he was very, very appreciative. So I'm sure he was helping, helping me deal with my wife. 1:17:56.4 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. Well, Bill, on behalf of everyone at the Deming Institute and myself personally, I want to thank you for this discussion and opening up you know, your journey with Dr. Deming. I feel like I understand Dr. Deming more, but I also understand you more. And I really appreciate that. And for the listeners out there, remember to go to Deming.org to continue your journey. And also let me give you, the listeners and viewers, the resources. First, we have Bill's book, which you can get online, The Deming Route to Quality and Productivity. We have Deming's Road to Continual Improvement, which Bill wrote. But I think even more importantly is go to his LinkedIn. He's on LinkedIn as William Scherkenbach and his tagline is helping individuals and organizations learn, have fun, and make a difference. So if you want to learn, have fun, and make a difference, send him a message. And I think you'll find that it's incredibly engaging. Are there any final words that you want to share with the listeners and the viewers? 1:19:08.9 William Scherkenbach: I appreciate your questions. In thinking about this interview, we barely scratched the surface. There are a ton of other stories, but we can save that for another time. 1:19:26.1 Andrew Stotz: Something tells me we're going to have some fun and continue to have fun in these discussions. So I really appreciate it and it's great to get to know you. Ladies and gentlemen. 1:19:36.7 William Scherkenbach: Thank you, Andrew. 1:19:37.7 Andrew Stotz: You're welcome. This is your host, Andrew Stotz, and I'm going to leave you with one of my favorite quotes from Dr. Deming, and that is that "people are entitled to joy in work."
Today, I'm joined by John Gallagher. John is the driving force behind Growing Champions Coaching and is a renowned consultant and coach to some of the world's most respected companies. In this episode we explore the power of equanimity in communication and discuss how intentional feedback can transform performance. Whether you're managing a team, navigating change, or simply striving to communicate with greater purpose, this episode delivers actionable strategies and thought-provoking lessons. Let's dive in.Additional Resources:► Follow Communispond on LinkedIn for more communication skills tips: https://www.linkedin.com/company/communispond► Connect with Scott D'Amico on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdamico/► Connect with John: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachjohngallagher/► Learn more about John's work: https://coachjohngallagher.com/► Subscribe to Communicast: https://communicast.simplecast.com/► Learn more about Communispond: https://www.communispond.com
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Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
A global economic crisis is dragging down sales.Departments are working in silos and leaders at all levels are arguing about priorities. Managers are too busy to coach their teams.You might think this describes your organization today—and it was the exact situation Toyota faced nearly 50 years ago.This challenge sparked one of the most ambitious and influential—and least known outside Japan—leadership development programs in Toyota's history: the Kanri Nouryoku Program, or Kan-Pro for short. “Kanri” meaning management, and “Nouryoku” meaning capability.Kan-Pro helped establish the people-centered learning culture Toyota is famous for today and embedded A3 thinking as a foundational process for problem-solving, communication, and leadership development.I invited Isao Yoshino—a 40-year Toyota leader who was one of the key team members who helped create and lead the program—to share his experience in two pivotal moments in Toyota's evolution and how he learned to lead cultural leadership transformation from a place of influence, not authority. Join me and Mr. Yoshino—also the subject of my Shingo-award winning book Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn — as we celebrate its 5-year anniversary this month!YOU'LL LEARN:The problem Toyota was trying to solve—and how Kan-Pro emerged as the countermeasureThe leadership styles of Masao Nemoto vs. Taiichi Ohno—and how both shaped Toyota's culture through the development of Toyota Way management culture and the Toyota Production System How Mr. Yoshino learned to coach and develop more senior executives as a mid-level internal change leaderThe process that established A3 thinking as the standard for leadership development, communication, and problem-solving across ToyotaCritical leadership behaviors that led to Toyota's success—which have come to be known as “lean management”Stay tuned for Episode 50 where Mr. Yoshino shares his major assignment to “change the culture”—how he and his team, including Lean Global Network Chairman John Shook, led the training and transformation of frontline American leaders at NUMMI, the GM–Toyota joint venture in the 1980s.ABOUT MY GUEST:Isao Yoshino, worked at Toyota Motor Corporation for over 40 years—from the late 1960s to the early 2000s—and played an important role in the development of Toyota's people-centered learning culture it's now famous for. He was a key part of Kan-Pro senior leadership development program, which embedded A3 thinking as the process for problem-solving, communication, and leadership development across the organization—and has deep expertise in the practice of hoshin-kanri—Toyota's strategy deployment process.IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/47My website with resources and ways to work with me KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my free KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst Learn more about the Japan Leadership Experience: kbjanderson.com/japantrip My book featuring lessons from Isao Yoshino's 40 years of Toyota Leadership: LearningToLeadLeadingToLearn.comTIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:03:51 The leadership shift behind the Toyota Way towards a people centered approach06:03 How Taiichi Ohno shaped the Toyota Production System and Masao Nemoto shaped Toyota Way style leadership07:41 Closing Toyota's leadership gap and how Kan-Pro emerged as a countermeasure12:41 Why committed top-down leadership ownership is essential to creating organizational culture14:46 How seriousness and patience sets Toyota apart15:17 Why Toyota created Kan-Pro to 're-tighten the belt' on leadership capabilities and why they need to refocus on leadership capabilities every generation18:55 The leader's role in setting direction and providing support to their people 20:40 The mindset shift in top management to not to fake it21:17 Mr. Yoshino's experience coaching senior leaders through hands-on A3 learning25:38 Key influence skills Mr. Yoshino learned from great Toyota managers28:12 The importance of respect by senior leaders even when there's resistance to change28:58 Being a Yes-Minded Persuader – a key KATALYST™ Chang Leader competency – in bringing leaders along in change 31:25 Lessons from coaching senior leaders using A3 thinking during Kan-Pro35:45 The positive shift when leaders prepare the A3 themselves37:48 Importance of handwritten A3s to senior executives41:13 The significance of a leader stamping their hanko on an A3 document43:35 Why an A3 at Toyota is different compared to most companies45:16 Mr. Yoshino's highlights in participating in Katie's Japan Leadership Experience lean management tours 48:29 Leading change involves empathy, patience, and helping others change themselves48:50 Questions to reflect on as a change agent in your organization Apply for the Nov 2025 Japan Leadership Experience https://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
Is it possible to lead a real, long-term cultural transformation in a publicly traded company—where shareholders often demand short-term financial results?It's challenging, yet possible. And GE Aerospace, with CEO Larry Culp at the helm, is leading the way. I invited Phil Wickler, Chief Transformation Officer, back to discuss the enterprise-wide shift toward lean at GE Aerospace.We explore what it takes to build a lean management system across a global company of 50,000+ people and how GE Aerospace is embedding problem-solving thinking, leadership behavior, and capability building into every layer of the organization as the strategic approach to getting business results.Discover the difference between “doing” lean and “being” lean and what it takes to shift from operational leadership and “being the expert” to transformational influence and building capability across the organization.If you're an operational leader, internal lean practitioner, external consultant, or if you want to lead change at scale, don't miss this episode!YOU'LL LEARN:How to strengthen the positioning of internal change teams and continuous improvement efforts—with and without executive supportWhy real transformation starts with leadership behaviors—not tools—and the key mindset and behavior shifts needed for lasting impactHow GE Aerospace is overcoming GE's Six Sigma historic approach to improvement and leaders' long-standing misconceptions about lean The purpose and elements of GE Aerospace's proprietary FLIGHT DECK lean operating system and how it's aligning lean fundamentals and behaviors across the organizationWhy shifting the ROI conversation on capability-building (not just cost savings) is critical for long-term transformation successABOUT MY GUEST:Phil Wickler is a Chief Transformation Officer at GE Aerospace where he has enterprise responsibility for EHS, Quality, Lean Operations, Sustainability and Transformation. Phil joined GE in 1995. He progressed through several operations roles, including Six Sigma Black Belt in assembly and component manufacturing, and as a facility manager. Then most recently, the Vice President of Supply Chain at GE, leading global manufacturing and supply chain operations.IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/46Connect with Phil Wickler: linkedin.com/in/philip-wicklerCheck my website: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonLearn more about lessons from Toyota Leader, Isao Yoshino: Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:01:54 Phil's career journey to Chief Transformation Officer04:28 Steps to lead culture change and build a thriving lean enterprise07:23 Common leadership misconceptions09:13 Helping leaders go to gemba with humility12:14 Setting up hoshin kanri up for success14:25 Importance of reflection for continuous improvement16:41 Narrowing down objectives vs. working on everything at once20:18 Moving from an operational leader to a transformational change leader22:04 How centralized and decentralized lean teams support enterprise culture change25:15 Integrating communications and HR functions in transformation & talent development26:18 GE Aerospace's proprietary lean management system – FLIGHT DECK28:12 Mindset shifts that shaped Phil's leadership31:00 Measuring cultural change through lean and FLIGHT DECK34:57 Starting with the basics is critical in leading change37:55 Real-world example of progress at site level39:21 How to strengthen the positioning of lean/Operational Excellence in your organization41:55 One element that accelerated GE Aerospace's transformation42:31 How to get started/ bring senior leaders on board
The focus of this spotlight episode is hot-side process improvements that will make your brew day quicker, more reliable, and more consistent. We get into the nitty-gritty of tank jackets, grist hydration, lauter-tun geometry, pressure differentials, kettle heating, and more, with a clear focus on lean manufacturing, reducing variability with Six Sigma DMAIC models, optimizing systems for the chemical and physical processes of brewing, workflow improvement for efficiency with provable ROI, and more. Joining for this conversation are: Kevan McCrummen: owner and head brewer of Vantage Point Brewing in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho Matthew Whitaker: sales engineer for Boiler Technologies Unlimited Vernon Spaulding: president and owner of Providence Process Solutions This in-depth discussion about hot-side process is brought to you interruption-free by Miura (https://miuraboiler.com), the global leader in modular on-demand steam solutions. Miura's boiler solutions are efficient, safe, and reliable, with flexible fuel options, compact footprints that fit today's breweries, modular expandable systems that grow with your brewery, and monitoring technology that gives you peace of mind. Their boilers are backed by the industry's only pressure-vessel guarantee against corrosion, and they offer a full lineup of equipment that integrates with your boiler, from water softening to de-aeration, reverse osmosis, and more. Learn more or contact them at Miuraboiler.com (https://miuraboiler.com).
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
Enter to win a copy of "Managing on Purpose" by Mark Reich, Chief Engineer of Strategy at the Lean Enterprise Institute (LEI). Giveaway open through June 20th.How effective is your organization's strategy in achieving results?If your team doesn't understand how their daily work connects to bigger organizational goals, you don't have a strategy—you have a gap. A gap in engagement. A gap in alignment. This gap leads to confusion, misaligned priorities, and wasted effort.I'm joined by Mark Reich, author of “Managing on Purpose”, to explore how hoshin kanri – often translated as strategy or policy deployment – can bridge this gap and transform your strategy development and deployment process.With 23+ years at Toyota and extensive experience guiding organizations through lean transformations, Mark reveals how hoshin kanri offers a different approach to strategy execution and management. It connects people to purpose, builds capability, and aligns cross-functional areas, turning vision into results.Turn your strategy into action by aligning and building a purpose-driven organization.YOU'LL LEARN:Differences between hoshin kanri and traditional strategy management Common misconceptions around strategy deployment and what sets hoshin kanri apartThe role of catchball in connecting top-down and bottom-up processesThe importance of building reflection (hansei) and PDCA (Plan-Do-Check-Act) into the processReal-world examples of organizations successfully transitioning to hoshin kanri strategy development and deploymentABOUT MY GUEST:Mark Reich is the author of “Managing on Purpose.” He spent 23 years at Toyota, including six years in Japan, seven years at the Toyota Supplier Support Center (TSSC), and over a decade leading Toyota's North American hoshin kanri process. Today, he's the Senior Coach and Chief Engineer of Strategy at the Lean Enterprise Institute (LEI), where he guides organizations and their executives on lean transformation.IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/45Connect with Mark Reich: linkedin.com/in/markareichMark Reich's book, “Managing on Purpose”: lean.org/store/book/managing-on-purposeResources and ways to work with me: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my FREE KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst Learn more about the history and application of hoshin kanri: Learning to Lead, Leading to LearnTIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:2:05 Hoshin Kanri vs. traditional management approaches to strategy2:52 Mark defines hoshin kanri3:49 What people get around around strategy deployment4:26 Two key differences that sets hoshin kanri apart from traditional strategy5:16 The problem Mark aimed to solve in “Managing On Purpose”10:07 Why knowing your true north vision matters11:34 The complexity of the x-matrix in implementing strategy15:31 Why catchball is essential to hoshin kanri20:32 Leading effective catchball conversations23:07 Vertical vs. horizontal catchball24:31 Collaborative input in the A3 process26:17 How leaders can retain perspective for effective catchball conversations28:30 The PDCA cycle's critical role in hoshin kanri framework31:06 Importance of flexibility in leadership32:19 Distinguishing daily tasks vs. long term tasks for success34:31 Embedding reflection time in the hoshin process to make PDCA work37:31 Long-term learning in implementing effective systems39:48 Using hansei for reflection and prioritization Enter to win a copy of "Managing on Purpose" by Mark Reich, Chief Engineer of Strategy at the Lean Enterprise Institute (LEI). Giveaway open through June 20th.Apply today for my next Japan Leadership Experience — learn more and discover the power of this immersive learning experience.
Listen to this #IISEAnnual2025 podcast break with Valerie Maier-Speredelozzi from the University of Rhode Island, recorded live on the floor of the IISE Annual Conference & Expo 2025 in Atlanta. Hit play to relive the energy, steal an idea before your next coffee refill, and stay plugged into the #IISEAnnual2025 buzz — wherever you engineer impact.SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S CULLEN COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING: At the University of Houston's Cullen College of Engineering, the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department prepares students not just to be team players — but to become dynamic leaders. Ranked among the Top 50 public universities by U.S. News & World Report, both the College and department are recognized for academic excellence and innovation. With flexible programs and industry-relevant certifications, such as our Lean Six Sigma program at lss.uh.edu we equip learners at every level to break through outdated systems and lead meaningful transformation. Discover more at ie.uh.edu.
Listen to this #IISEAnnual2025 podcast break with Jingfei Chen, senior principle product manager at ServiceNow, recorded live on the floor of the IISE Annual Conference & Expo 2025 in Atlanta. Hit play to relive the energy, steal an idea before your next coffee refill, and stay plugged into the #IISEAnnual2025 buzz — wherever you engineer impact.SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S CULLEN COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING: At the University of Houston's Cullen College of Engineering, the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department prepares students not just to be team players — but to become dynamic leaders. Ranked among the Top 50 public universities by U.S. News & World Report, both the College and department are recognized for academic excellence and innovation. With flexible programs and industry-relevant certifications, such as our Lean Six Sigma program at lss.uh.edu we equip learners at every level to break through outdated systems and lead meaningful transformation. Discover more at ie.uh.edu.
Listen to this #IISEAnnual2025 podcast break with Max Miller from Auburn University, recorded live on the floor of the IISE Annual Conference & Expo 2025 in Atlanta. Hit play to relive the energy, steal an idea before your next coffee refill, and stay plugged into the #IISEAnnual2025 buzz — wherever you engineer impact.SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S CULLEN COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING: At the University of Houston's Cullen College of Engineering, the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department prepares students not just to be team players — but to become dynamic leaders. Ranked among the Top 50 public universities by U.S. News & World Report, both the College and department are recognized for academic excellence and innovation. With flexible programs and industry-relevant certifications, such as our Lean Six Sigma program at lss.uh.edu we equip learners at every level to break through outdated systems and lead meaningful transformation. Discover more at ie.uh.edu.
Carly Walker of Auburn University is a first-time IISE Annual Conference & Expo attendee. She said she's enjoyed her first year at the event thanks to what she describes as a “welcoming" atmosphere. Listen to this #IISEAnnual2025 podcast break with Carly, recorded live on the floor of the IISE Annual Conference & Expo 2025 in Atlanta. Hit play to relive the energy, steal an idea before your next coffee refill, and stay plugged into the #IISEAnnual2025 buzz — wherever you engineer impact.SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S CULLEN COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING: At the University of Houston's Cullen College of Engineering, the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department prepares students not just to be team players — but to become dynamic leaders. Ranked among the Top 50 public universities by U.S. News & World Report, both the College and department are recognized for academic excellence and innovation. With flexible programs and industry-relevant certifications, such as our Lean Six Sigma program at lss.uh.edu we equip learners at every level to break through outdated systems and lead meaningful transformation. Discover more at ie.uh.edu.
Listen to this #IISEAnnual2025 podcast break with David Gray from Autodesk Inc., recorded live on the floor of the IISE Annual Conference & Expo 2025 in Atlanta. Hit play to relive the energy, steal an idea before your next coffee refill, and stay plugged into the #IISEAnnual2025 buzz — wherever you engineer impact.SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S CULLEN COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING: At the University of Houston's Cullen College of Engineering, the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department prepares students not just to be team players — but to become dynamic leaders. Ranked among the Top 50 public universities by U.S. News & World Report, both the College and department are recognized for academic excellence and innovation. With flexible programs and industry-relevant certifications, such as our Lean Six Sigma program at lss.uh.edu we equip learners at every level to break through outdated systems and lead meaningful transformation. Discover more at ie.uh.edu.
Listen to this #IISEAnnual2025 podcast break with Sanjit Addepally from Rutgers University, recorded live on the floor of the IISE Annual Conference & Expo 2025 in Atlanta. Hit play to relive the energy, steal an idea before your next coffee refill, and stay plugged into the #IISEAnnual2025 buzz — wherever you engineer impact.SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S CULLEN COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING: At the University of Houston's Cullen College of Engineering, the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department prepares students not just to be team players — but to become dynamic leaders. Ranked among the Top 50 public universities by U.S. News & World Report, both the College and department are recognized for academic excellence and innovation. With flexible programs and industry-relevant certifications, such as our Lean Six Sigma program at lss.uh.edu we equip learners at every level to break through outdated systems and lead meaningful transformation. Discover more at ie.uh.edu.
Melika Jahan Beikloo is a Ph.D. candidate from Clemson University in the industrial engineering department. It's her first time at #IISEAnnual2025, and she's also giving a presentation Monday, June 2. Listen to this #IISEAnnual2025 podcast break with Melika, recorded live on the floor of the IISE Annual Conference & Expo 2025 in Atlanta. Hit play to relive the energy, steal an idea before your next coffee refill, and stay plugged into the #IISEAnnual2025 buzz — wherever you engineer impact.SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S CULLEN COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING: At the University of Houston's Cullen College of Engineering, the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department prepares students not just to be team players — but to become dynamic leaders. Ranked among the Top 50 public universities by U.S. News & World Report, both the College and department are recognized for academic excellence and innovation. With flexible programs and industry-relevant certifications, such as our Lean Six Sigma program at lss.uh.edu we equip learners at every level to break through outdated systems and lead meaningful transformation. Discover more at ie.uh.edu.
What happens when you mix discipline, precision, and deep empathy into a real estate business? In this episode of the Real Estate Excellence Podcast, Tracy Hayes welcomes Cindy James. Cindy is a licensed REALTOR, & Broker Associate, public speaker, and co-owner of Island Construction & Remodeling in Jacksonville, FL. With over 30 years in the corporate world and a background in real estate investing, Cindy blends business savvy, local expertise, and construction knowledge to help clients buy, sell, and transform homes with confidence. She's built a standout brand by leading with heart, hustle, and an unwavering commitment to helping clients turn houses into homes—and investments into opportunities. From flipping homes and streamlining renovation projects to guiding emotional first-time buyers, Cindy emphasizes the power of listening, empathy, and having a process. She doesn't just help clients buy and sell homes—she helps them achieve life goals with clarity and confidence. Whether she's organizing a move, catching missed home defects, or coordinating cleanouts, Cindy shows that elite real estate agents are much more than transaction managers—they're life facilitators. If you're a real estate professional looking to elevate your client service or a buyer who wants a seamless and empathetic experience, follow Cindy James and stay connected! Highlights: 00:00 - 05:12 Military Discipline & Early Influences Life with a drill sergeant father Spanish at home, English at school Friday night inspections and household order Lessons from growing up in a military family How discipline shaped her professional habits 05:13 - 12:34 Corporate to Real Estate Evolution 30-year corporate tenure at Florida Blue First home at 22: love for new construction Real estate investment beginnings Applying Six Sigma to her business transition Passion for process and continuous improvement 12:35 - 21:45 Making Chaos Seamless for Clients Problem-solving in real estate transactions The unexpected moving day challenge Leveraging contractors for fast turnarounds Protecting clients from behind-the-scenes stress The goal: smooth closings and stress-free clients 21:46 - 33:59 Relationships, Referrals & Reputation Creating client advocates through service Going beyond the transaction Building trust through action, not just words Referrals from people she's never even sold to Consistency and care over commissions 34:00 - 46:02 Listening, Empathy & Emotional Sales Reading the room: listening with eyes and ears Understanding the story behind the sale Helping clients through trauma-driven moves The art of conversation and natural empathy Counseling clients while closing deals 46:03 - 01:10:01 Construction, Data & Dual Expertise How she became co-owner of a renovation firm Business structure meets on-site grit Seeing potential in properties others pass on Pricing renovations and value-add upgrades Targeted marketing using data and strategy Conclusion Quotes: "Everything is a process—we just don't stop long enough to actually see it and map it out." – Cindy James "My clients don't need to know about the chaos behind the scenes. They need to feel like it was simple." – Cindy James "I will talk you out of buying a house if it's not the right thing to do." – Cindy James "I don't pretend to be perfect. I'm here to help people achieve a goal—that's what drives me." – Cindy James To contact Cindy James, learn more about her business, and make her a part of your network, make sure to follow her on her Website, Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. Connect with Cindy James! Website: https://RealEstateWithCindyJames.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cindy.james.realtor/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063589868070 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindy-james-realtor%C2%AE-broker-associate-3907a01a3/ Connect with me! Website: toprealtorjacksonville.com Website: toprealtorstaugustine.com If you want to build your business and become more discoverable online, Streamlined Media has you covered. Check out how they can help you build an evergreen revenue generator all powered by content creation! SUBSCRIBE & LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW as we discuss real estate excellence with the best of the best. #RealEstateExcellence #CindyJames #JacksonvilleHomes #RealEstatePodcast #EmpathyInBusiness #WomenInRealEstate #HomeFlipping #RenovationExpert #SixSigma #TopAgent #RealEstateTips #HomeBuyers #RealEstateStrategy #LeadershipInRealEstate #ClientFirst #ConstructionToClosing #BilingualAgent #VAHomeLoans #ProcessImprovement #TrustedAdvisor #RealEstateJourney
Chain of Learning: Empowering Continuous Improvement Change Leaders
How many questions is too many?You know that asking effective questions is key to helping others solve problems and unlocking improvement, but can you ask too many questions?Yes! And when you do so, you actually hinder progress, not enable it.In this episode, I share one of the most common mistakes leaders and coaches alike make when learning to Break the Telling Habit® and moving from “telling” to “asking”. It's a crucial shift to stop being the expert with all the answers, but when you overpivot to only asking, you can leave the person you're intending to support feeling frustrated and stuck. Coaching for improvement isn't just about inquiry—it's about navigating what I call the “Coaching Continuum”—knowing when to provide open support for problem-solving and when to step in with direction.And importantly, always keeping the problem-solving responsibility with the person you are coaching.YOU'LL LEARN:When and how to switch between directive coaching and open coachingThe Coaching Continuum and how to maintain the ownership of problem-solving with the actual problem ownerThree key steps to navigate the Coaching Continuum effectivelyA leader or coach's role in overseeing the problem-solving process, whether using an A3 report or another improvement methodThe importance of embracing struggle in the learning process and allowing time for responseTune in to learn how to navigate this continuum and become a more effective Transformational Improvement Coach!IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes with links to other episodes and resources: ChainOfLearning.com/44Check out my website for resources and ways to work with me KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonDownload my FREE KATALYST™ Change Leader Self-Assessment: KBJAnderson.com/katalyst Learn more about the role of leader as coach: Learning to Lead, Leading to LearnTIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:02:59 Navigating the coaching continuum 03:59 A brief explanation of the coaching continuum to be a more helpful coach05:32 The 3 key steps to effectively navigate the coaching continuum05:43 Step 1: Understand their thinking to know whether open coaching or directive guidance is needed07:12 Step 2: Get comfortable with struggle08:26 When to pivot from open coaching to directive coaching8:37 How to label your actions to clarify your intention11:01 Step 3: Today's not the only day, follow up with a coaching process question to encourage learning11:27 Benefit of asking a process question to understand next steps13:32 A leader's role in developing an A3 report and owning the thinking process not the thinking15:13 Why coaching and leadership is situational15:35 Steps to make a plan for effective coaching15:42 Step 1: Ask a question before immediately jumping in15:54 Step 2: Give an example how you might approach the problem16:15 Step 3: The next step to take and what to expect
You can choose: Heaven or HellWhy do some process improvement projects feel like a gift—and others like a punishment?If you've ever been caught in the chaos of a so-called "improvement" initiative that made things worse instead of better, you're not alone. This episode explores how traditional process improvement often misses the mark and how a new, wellness-centered approach can turn stress into support for your team.You Will Discover ...
In this episode, Doug Hall, founder of Eureka Ranch and Brain Brew Distillery and a recognized innovation expert, discusses his book, "Proactive Problem Solving." He shares practical strategies for identifying and resolving challenges using systems thinking. Inspired by Dr. W. Edwards Deming, Hall emphasizes engaged leadership and empowering those closest to the work. The conversation focuses on moving beyond simply fixing problems to proactively preventing them.
SummaryIn this episode of the e-commerce content creation podcast, Daniel discusses the importance of studio audits and the physical layout of studios in enhancing workflow efficiency. He introduces the concept of workshops aimed at improving digital workflows and emphasizes the need for identifying quick wins within studio processes. The conversation highlights the interdependence of studio workflows, the challenges of managing exceptions in production, and the critical role of documentation and last but not least, the importance of celebrating team wins and continuous improvement in studio operations.Key TakeawaysThe studio audit focuses on both physical layout and workflow.Internal tools can sometimes outperform external solutions.Physical space impacts digital workflow significantly.Workshops can help identify and improve digital processes.Quick wins are essential for team morale and efficiency.Studio workflows are highly interdependent and complex.Managing exceptions is crucial in production processes.Documentation is often lacking and relies on tribal knowledge.Celebrating wins boosts team motivation and recognition.Continuous improvement is key to operational success.CreditsHosted by: Daniel Jester - danieltjester.com
#74: Most business success doesn't come from one big move—it comes from doing the right things over and over, on purpose. In this episode, we're breaking down the real power of repetition in business: why it works, how it builds momentum, and how those daily reps are the bridge from being good... to becoming world-class.I'll share personal stories from my background in athletics, explain the systems I've built to keep my business engine running, and unpack why early results might seem slow, but behind the scenes, they're compounding fast. Whether you're creating content, making sales calls, underwriting deals, or building client relationships, repetition isn't boring, it's your most underrated competitive advantage.If you're aiming to be the best at what you do, this episode is the reminder (and push) to keep showing up and putting in the reps.If you are interested in making an additional $100k this year in private lending-then. you need to register for our National Private Lending Conference, Sept. 3-4 in Las Vegas! Check it out! https://www.americanlendingconference.com/
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What's the real purpose behind the Japanese practices integral to lean management —like kata, obeya, and A3 reports?These methods are often misunderstood as mere templates or formats, without recognizing the deeper meaning and intention that drive their impact.In this episode, we're picking up on my conversation with Tim Wolput, Japanologist, Toyota Way management expert, and former World Aikido Champion, in Part 2 of this masterclass on Japanese culture and management. Tim brings a unique perspective on the connection between martial arts and leadership—exploring how practices like kata, obeya, and omotenashi (the spirit of hospitality) can be applied to transformational leadership in your organization.YOU'LL LEARN:What it means to flip the pyramid, highlighting the difference between servant leadership and traditional top-down leadershipWhat the tea ceremony teaches us in looking beyond transactional thinkingThe essence of obeya in being more than a space to display information and manage initiatives, but process for people development and collaborationThe importance of holding precious what it means to be human in leadership The concept of “ichigo ichie” and embracing the uniqueness of the present momentIn episode 42, we explored how Samurai and rice farming shaped Japanese leadership and how it differs from Western management. If you missed it, hit pause and listen now before continuing this episode!ABOUT MY GUEST:Tim Wolput is a Japanologist and Toyota Way Management expert passionate about helping people transform themselves, their organizations, and the world for the better. Since 2023 Tim has been my in-country partner for my immersive Japan Leadership Experiences. Originally from Belgium, Tim has lived in Japan since 1999 where he attended Tokyo University Graduate School where he studied the history of traditional Japanese mathematics. He is also the 2005 World Champion in Aikido. Tim is a certified Toyota Way Management System instructor and consultant to global organizations on Lean, Agile, and Toyota Production System (TPS).IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/43Listen to Part 1 with Tim Wolput: ChainfOfLearning.com/42Connect with Tim Wolput: linkedin.com/in/timwolputCheck out my website for resources and working together: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjandersonLearn about my Japan Leadership Experience program: kbjanderson.com/JapanTripTIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:01:54 The meaning and practice of Aikido and lessons for leadership and lean management06:20 What it means to flip the organizational pyramid and how it relates to supportive and servant leadership09:37 Importance of kata in Japanese culture 17:24 The ritual of the tea ceremony and how it relates to business and customer service21:05 Disadvantages of replacing humans with machines to get things done22:40 The concept of obeya, visual management, and people development25:30 The importance of being people focused rather than tools and processes to reach goals
Jennifer Peterson, Manager of Continuous Improvement at Muscatine Power and Water (MPW) in Muscatine, Iowa, joined Jamie Flinchbaugh on the People Solve Problems podcast to share insights about her approach to problem solving. Jennifer's mission at MPW is to reduce frustration for coworkers through process improvement and problem solving. Working in a utility that provides critical services and never shuts down, Jennifer explains that prioritization is essential. At MPW, safety concerns come first, followed by reliability issues. Jennifer shares a practical example of how they tackled the recurring problem of squirrels chewing through utility lines by installing special pole wraps that prevent squirrels from climbing, significantly reducing outages. Rather than accepting this as an inevitable issue, her team actively sought solutions. When it comes to collaboration, Jennifer believes in inclusivity. She prefers having more stakeholders in the room rather than too few, aligning with Jamie's philosophy that problems can't be solved in isolation. Jennifer employs several facilitation strategies to ensure all voices are heard, especially from quieter team members. Her preparation includes learning about participants beforehand, sometimes through conversations with their supervisors, and creating a comfortable environment for contribution during sessions. Jennifer connects problem-solving effectiveness to the organization's mission. MPW revised their mission statement in 2023 to empower Muscatine residents and businesses to thrive, which has helped employees see the direct impact of their work. This connection to community creates natural motivation, as employees often serve their family members, friends, and neighbors. For tackling complex problems like safety and reliability, Jennifer recommends breaking them down into smaller, less intimidating parts. She draws a powerful connection between this approach and psychological safety, noting that when problems seem less overwhelming, people are more likely to embrace solutions and understand different perspectives. After 17 years at MPW, Jennifer recognizes the challenge of blind spots that come with long tenure. Her team documents processes for potential single points of failure and questions long-standing practices. They also use benchmarking and comparative data to challenge themselves, recently shifting from measuring against industry averages to top quartile performance. She notes that MPW's culture embraces holding themselves to high standards, with leadership promoting a standard of excellence throughout the organization. Jennifer combines her MBA from Western Illinois University, Bachelor's in English from St. Martin's University, and certifications as a PMP and Lean Black Belt to bring both analytical rigor and clear communication to her continuous improvement work. Learn more about Jennifer and Muscatine Power and Water at www.mpw.org or connect with her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-peterson-muscatine/.
keywordscybersecurity, leadership, startups, failure, vendor trust, HACKERverse, communication, investment, innovation, beginner's mindset, job search, LinkedIn, networking, AI, personal branding, cybersecurity, lifestyle polygraph, superheroes, career advice, mentorshipsummaryIn this episode of No Password Required, host Jack Clabby and co-host Kaylee Melton engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Mariana Padilla, co-founder and CEO of HACKERverse.AI. The discussion revolves around the importance of embracing failure as a learning opportunity, the role of leadership in fostering a positive work environment, and the challenges faced in the cybersecurity vendor landscape. Mariana shares her insights on the need for better communication in the industry and the importance of a beginner's mindset in driving innovation. The conversation also touches on the future of investment in cybersecurity and the necessity of rebuilding trust within the industry. In this engaging conversation, Mariana discusses the challenges of job searching in the current landscape dominated by AI and the importance of networking and personal branding. She emphasizes that building trust and connections is crucial in the cybersecurity field. The discussion transitions into a fun segment called the lifestyle polygraph, where Mariana shares her thoughts on superheroes and their relevance to personal and professional growth. The episode concludes with Mariana providing insights on how to connect with her and her work.takeawaysEmbracing failure is crucial for personal and professional growth.Leadership should focus on transparency and learning from mistakes.A beginner's mindset can lead to innovative solutions in cybersecurity.The cybersecurity industry struggles with communication and trust.Venture capital influences the direction of cybersecurity startups.Sustainable business practices are essential for long-term success.The sales process in cybersecurity needs to be more efficient.Understanding vendor interoperability is critical for security.Cybersecurity vendors must demonstrate product viability effectively.The industry must evolve to meet the rapid pace of technological change. You're competing against AI for some of these jobs.Networking is so, so, so important.The online application system has been dying for quite some time.Your personal brand matters and you have to have one.Conferences are a prime opportunity to peacock a little bit.Batman has real feelings and real demons.The correct answer is Star Trek.Margot Robbie, I really like her.You're on the fantasy cybersecurity squad.Come follow me on LinkedIn for lots of shenanigans.titlesEmbracing Failure in CybersecurityThe Importance of Leadership in StartupsInnovating with a Beginner's MindsetHACKERverse: Revolutionizing CybersecuritySound Bites"It's all about leadership and leading by example.""I think we have a gap here.""We should focus on sustainably built businesses.""It's just a bunch of nonsense.""Networking is so, so, so important.""Batman has real feelings and real demons.""The correct answer is Star Trek.""Margot Robbie, I really like her.""You're on the fantasy cybersecurity squad."Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity Conversations02:00 Embracing Failure as a Learning Opportunity06:02 The Role of Leadership in Startups09:00 The Value of a Beginner's Mindset11:58 Understanding HACKERverse's Mission13:59 Challenges in the Cybersecurity Vendor Landscape17:08 Shaking Up the Status Quo in Cybersecurity21:52 The Future of Investment in Cybersecurity24:36 Navigating Job Searches in the Age of AI29:35 The Importance of Personal Branding30:23 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun and Games39:05 Superheroes and Their Lessons43:45 Connecting with Mariana: Final Thoughts
Unlock fresh perspectives on modern executive search operations in this can't-miss episode of The Full Desk Experience. Designed for executive search leaders, owners, and director-level decision makers, this conversation with Vaughn Emery, VP of Revenue Growth at Duffy Group, dives deep into the strategies powering next-level growth in today's recruiting landscape.Key insights include:The Duffy Group's unique, research-driven executive search model that builds deep, mission-aligned partnerships with clients.Transforming sales and process frameworks to balance consistency with flexibility, while keeping teams accountable—without micromanaging.The essential role of technology and AI in modern search, and why the human touch remains irreplaceable for quality outcomes.Tracking overlooked KPIs, like cost-to-hire and post-placement success, for smarter, client-focused results.Executive-level approaches to succession planning and long-term client value creation.Are you future-proofing your processes, or has your tried-and-true approach hit its ceiling? How much will AI truly change the game for executive search, and where is the human element irreplaceable?Press play now to hear first-hand strategies and practical wisdom you can use to elevate your search firm's success._________________Tools mentioned in this episode:Crelate – Mentioned as both the company the host is from (Kortney Harmon, Director of Industry Relations at Crelate) and the platform behind the podcast.Crelate Copilot – Crelate's AI assistant (“Copilot brings you recruiter intelligence…”)._________________Follow Vaughn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vaughnemery1/Want to learn more about Crelate? Book a demo hereFollow Crelate on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/crelate/Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.crelate.com/blog/full-desk-experience
BONUS: From Waterfall to Flow—Rethinking Mental Models in Software Delivery With Henrik Mårtensson In this BONUS episode, we explore the origins and persistence of waterfall methodology in software development with management consultant Henrik Mårtensson. Based on an article where he details the history of Waterfall, Henrik explains the historical context of waterfall, challenges the mental models that keep it alive in modern organizations, and offers insights into how systems thinking can transform our approach to software delivery. This conversation is essential for anyone looking to understand why outdated methodologies persist and how to move toward more effective approaches to software development. The True Origins of Waterfall "Waterfall came from the SAGE project, the first large software project in history, where they came up with a methodology based on an economic analysis." Henrik takes us on a fascinating historical journey to uncover the true origins of waterfall methodology. Contrary to popular belief, the waterfall approach wasn't invented by Winston Royce but emerged from the SAGE project in the 1950s. Bennington published the original paper outlining this approach, while it was Bell and Tayer who later named it "waterfall" when referencing Royce's work. Henrik explains how gated process models eventually led to the formalized waterfall methodology and points out that an entire generation of methods existed between waterfall and modern Agile approaches that are often overlooked in the conversation. In this segment we refer to: The paper titled “Production of Large Computer Programs” by Herbert D. Benington (direct PDF link) Updated and re-published in 1983 in Annals of the History of Computing ( Volume: 5, Issue: 4, Oct.-Dec. 1983) Winston Royce's paper from 1970 that erroneously is given the source of the waterfall term. Direct PDF Link. Bell and Thayer's paper “Software Requirements: Are They Really A Problem?”, that finally “baptized” the waterfall process. Direct PDF link. Mental Models That Keep Us Stuck "Fredrik Taylor's model of work missed the concept of a system, leading us to equate busyness with productivity." The persistence of waterfall thinking stems from outdated mental models about work and productivity. Henrik highlights how Frederick Taylor's scientific management principles continue to influence software development despite missing the crucial concept of systems thinking. This leads organizations to equate busyness with productivity, as illustrated by Henrik's anecdote about 50 projects assigned to just 70 people. We explore how project management practices often enforce waterfall thinking, and why organizations tend to follow what others do rather than questioning established practices. Henrik emphasizes several critical concepts that are often overlooked: Systems thinking Deming's principles Understanding variation and statistics Psychology of work Epistemology (how we know what we know) In this segment, we refer to: Frederik Taylor's book “The Principles of Scientific Management” The video explaining why Project Management leads to Coordination Chaos James C. Scott's book, “Seeing Like a State” Queueing theory Little's Law The Estimation Trap "The system architecture was overcomplicated, and the organizational structure followed it, creating a three-minute door unlock that required major architectural changes." Henrik shares a compelling story about a seemingly simple feature—unlocking a door—that was estimated to take three minutes but actually required significant architectural changes due to Conway's Law. This illustrates how organizational structures often mirror system architecture, creating unnecessary complexity that impacts delivery timelines. The anecdote serves as a powerful reminder of how estimation in software development is frequently disconnected from reality when we don't account for systemic constraints and architectural dependencies. In this segment, we refer to Conway's Law, the observation that explicitly called out how system architecture is so often linked to organizational structures. Moving Beyond Waterfall "Understanding queueing theory and Little's Law gives us the tools to rethink flow in software delivery." To move beyond waterfall thinking, Henrik recommends several resources and concepts that can help transform our approach to software development. By understanding queueing theory and Little's Law, teams can better manage workflow and improve delivery predictability. Henrik's article on coordination chaos highlights the importance of addressing organizational complexity, while James C. Scott's book "Seeing Like a State" provides insights into how central planning often fails in complex environments. About Henrik Mårtensson Henrik Mårtensson is a management consultant specializing in strategy, organizational development, and process improvement. He blends Theory of Constraints, Lean, Agile, and Six Sigma to solve complex challenges. A published author and licensed ScrumMaster, Henrik brings sharp systems thinking—and a love of storytelling—to help teams grow and thrive. You can link with Henrik Mårtensson on LinkedIn and connect with Henrik Mårtensson on Twitter.
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Apply for the Nov 2025 Japan Leadership Experience - early registration rate now through May 31st! https://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/ How much of the Toyota Way is dependent on Japanese culture?And how much of it all comes down to… being human?There are questions I've explored with 130+ global leaders who've joined my Japan Leadership Experience programs. To help you answer this question, I've invited Tim Wolput – Japanologist and Toyota Way Management expert, to Chain of Learning.Together, we take a deep (and fun!) dive into the differences between classical Japanese and Western management and explore the cultural and historical roots of real lean leadership.In this episode, we travel through Japanese history—from Confucius' teachings to samurai and rice farming traditions, and Deming's influence on Japanese management. If you've ever wanted a masterclass on Japanese management and Toyota Way principles—and how you can apply these lessons to create a culture of excellence—these two episodes are a must-listen.YOU'LL LEARN:Misconceptions about the Toyota Way management practices and applying the principles across culturesDeming's influence on Japan and the development of the Toyota Production System and Toyota WayThe way of the samurai: Focus on the process, not just the outcomeShu-ha-ri: The process towards mastery and turning knowledge into wisdom by learning through doing The power of leading through influence and “doing the right thing”: true leadership inspires growth, not just resultsSubscribe so you don't miss Part 2, where we continue along this path of learning to explore the nuances of Japanese concepts like kata and obeya and their relationship to lean management practices today.ABOUT MY GUEST:Tim Wolput is a Japanologist and Toyota Way Management expert passionate about helping people transform themselves, their organizations, and the world for the better. Since 2023 Tim has been my in-country partner for my immersive Japan Leadership Experiences. Originally from Belgium, Tim has lived in Japan since 1999 where he attended Tokyo University Graduate School and studied traditional Japanese mathematics. Tim is a certified Toyota Way Management System instructor and consultant to global organizations on Lean, Agile, and Toyota Production System (TPS).IMPORTANT LINKS:Full episode show notes: ChainOfLearning.com/42Connect with Tim Wolput: linkedin.com/in/timwolputCheck out my website for resources and working together: KBJAnderson.comFollow me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kbjanderson Learn about my Japan Leadership Experience program: kbjanderson.com/JapanTrip TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:03:53 Biggest misconceptions about Toyota Way management practices05:10 Katie's perspective Japan versus the west08:46 The meaning of Shu Ha Ri and the traditional way of learning10:23 Deming's influence on Japan and The Toyota Way13:05 Why Japan embraced PDCA15:45 Difference in mindset between Asia and the west17:28 The working culture in Japan and how work together in the community22:17 Power of the supplier relationship23:40 Japanese leadership style29:15 Concept of doing the right thing30:56 How to focus on processes as the way to get results34:13 Powerful words of wisdom about the way of the samurai Apply for the Nov 2025 Japan Leadership Experience - early registration rate now through May 31st! https://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/
Points of Interest1:02 – 1:38 – Intro: Marcel introduces the session as a condensed version of his All-in Agency Summit talk, aimed at equipping agencies with the key levers to diagnose and improve profitability.3:05 – 3:18 – 80/20 Profitability Focus: The goal is to give agencies 20% of the knowledge that provides 80% of the insight needed to take control of profitability, regardless of market conditions.4:28 – 6:27 – The Growth Trap Cycle: Agencies often get stuck in a cycle of hiring during growth, losing profitability, scaling again, and repeatedly encountering the same financial challenges at larger scales.6:42 – 7:01 – Identifying the Real Problem: Founders are urged to identify whether their agency's issue is inefficient delivery (indigestion) or lack of revenue (starvation) to avoid insolvency.9:01 – 10:06 – Financial Metrics Foundation: Understanding core financial metrics—especially agency gross income (AGI)—is essential to making better business decisions beyond tax reporting.14:24 – 18:05 – Delivery Margin as the Core Metric: Agencies should aim for delivery costs to stay under 50% of AGI, enabling better spending on overhead and stronger profitability.21:44 – 26:44 – Lever 1: Average Cost Per Hour: Lowering the average cost of labor through delegation and improved processes helps reduce delivery costs and increase profitability.28:03 – 31:55 – Lever 2: Average Billable Rate (ABR): Maximizing revenue per hour of delivery time, regardless of billing model, improves margins—either by pricing higher or working more efficiently.34:17 – 38:24 – Lever 3: Utilization Rate: Utilization measures how much team capacity is spent on client work; improving it by selling more work or adjusting staff size directly affects profitability.42:01 – 44:45 – Utilization Benchmarks: Weekly and annual utilization targets vary by role; producers should aim for 75%+ weekly, and teams should average 50–65% annually including all roles.45:27 – 49:26 – Impact of Levers on Profit: A case study illustrates how modest gains in utilization and ABR can shift profit margins from 10% to 40%, increasing valuation by up to 500% without hiring or cutting overhead.Show NotesAll-in Agency SummitChris Dubois & Dynamic Agency OSFree Agency Profit ToolkitFree access to our Model PlatformParakeeto Foundations CourseLove the PodcastLeave us a review here.