Podcasts about Carnegie Deli

The name may not ring too many bells today, but from the 1960s through the 1990s you just had to turn on your television or (hit up your local comedy record store) and you were sure to run into the work of Sandy Baron who rose from playing the Catskills "borscht belt", to improv and satirical shows (including the US version of "That Was The Week That Was), to becoming a fixture in Vegas, in movies, and on television talk and game shows. In 1984 Sandy was introduced to a new generation of fans with his a role in Broadway Danny Rose, Woody Allen's tribute to shtickmeisters (and struggling agents), then in the 1990s he had a juicy late-career triumph on Seinfeld as Jack Klompus who was a comic antagonist of Jerry's dad. As always find extra cuts below and thanks for sharing our shows. Want more Sandy Baron? We don't usually include other artists in an episode, but how can we fail to give you the whole Lou Rawls classic "A Natural Man" -- with lyrics courtesy of Sandy Baron. https://youtu.be/y9tS0loD3vQ?si=BkE-OA-wTpBUV701 Sandy had one shot at his own sitcom (Hey Landlord!) and it tanked after just one year. Being a great standup comic, Sandy was able to turn his pain to laughs in this routine from shortly after the cancellation. https://youtu.be/jdr0GcxAoQo?si=q-YB2UAcumQDJTdK Woody Allen's Broadway Danny Rose was a love letter to the shtickmeisters of the past (and their sometimes hapless agents). Much of the story is told in flashback during a gathering of comics at the Carnegie Deli -- and Sandy was right in the middle of it. https://youtu.be/mXIM1JXWjm4?si=ZViQ3NSLjeJ4R3-g Longtime fans were delighted when Sandy surfaced in the 1990s playing a pesky rival of Jerry Seinfeld's dad on the classic sitcom Seinfeld. Here are some of of the best "Jack Klompus" moments from the show. https://youtu.be/XLK1eqK2kEo?si=-9LZ0EwUQ1o4BDVw

In May of 2001, Jennifer Stahl and four friends were in her apartment in New York City when another man was buzzed in.  They didn't know that he had another man with him, and the two were planning on robbing everyone there along with money that Jennifer was supposed to have.  Each man would later claim that the other was responsible, but at the end, all 5 of the others had been shot and left for dead.  Investigators worked with the little evidence they had, and were able to identify their two suspects.  While one would turn himself in, the other would be arrested across the country with the help of America's Most Wanted. Want access to our first 45 episodes? Grab em here! We've made them available for free to anyone who signs up! Remember, these episodes were recorded when we had no idea what we were doing, so just keep that in mind. The audio isn't the quality we would want to put out now, but the cases are on point! Visit killerqueens.link/og to download and binge all the archived episodes today! Hang with us: Follow Us on Instagram Like Us on Facebook Join our Case Discussion Group on Facebook Get Killer Queens Merch Bonus Episodes Support Our AMAZING Sponsors: Laundry Sauce: For 15% off your order, head to LaundrySauce.com/QUEENS and use code QUEENS. Chewy: Take advantage of amazing holiday savings and shop my personal favorites at chewy.com/queens.   Green Chef: Go to greenchef.com/queens50 and use code QUEENS50 for 50% off your first box plus 20% off your next two months.  #GreenChef © 2024 Killer Queens Podcast. All Rights Reserved Audio Production by Wayfare Recording Music provided by Steven Tobi Logo designed by Sloane Williams of The Sophisticated Crayon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Over the lifetime of Unstoppable Mindset, I have met many of our guests on LinkedIn. My guest this time, Wallace Pond, is by far one of the most fascinating and engaging people I have had the honor to talk with. Dr. Pond was born into a military family based at the time in Alabama. I do tease him about his not having an Alabama accent and he acknowledges that living on a military base is largely why he does not naturally possess a Southern way of speech. Dr. Pond has lived, worked, and studied in North America, Latin America, the Caribbean, Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. He has served as a teacher, a professor and within the corporate world he has held a number of positions including several within the C Suite arena. We get to explore his life journey including learning of a mental health crisis that led him to a career change a few years ago. During my time with Wallace, we talk about many subjects including God and religion, Leadership and what makes a good and real leader. Wallace talks about diversity and how we are focusing so much on tribal issues within our culture that we are losing the art of conversation. Dr. Pond will tell us about his project, the Transformation Collaborative which is an effort to promote real change in how we can become better versions of ourselves. I leave it to Wallace to explain. At the end of our podcast episode Wallace and I agreed to record a second episode in the near future. I'd love your thoughts about what you hear on this episode. Any questions you want me to ask Dr. Pond next time? Please pass them on. About the Guest: Dr. Pond, founder, IdeaPathway, LLC, the Transformation Collaborative™, and Life Worth Living, LLC, has been a missiondriven educator and leader for over 30 years. For the last 20 years, Wallace has been a senior leader in higher education, holding both campus and system level positions overseeing single and large, multi-campus and online institutions of higher education in the US and internationally. He has served as chancellor, president, COO, CEO, CAO (Chief Academic Officer), and board member, bringing exceptional value as a strategic-servant leader through extensive experience and acumen in strategic planning, transformational change, change management, crisis management/turn around, organizational design and development, P&L, human capital development, innovation, new programs, and deep operational expertise among other areas of impact. He has recently added psychotherapy to his practice and provides counseling services as an LPCC under supervision. You can see his counselor profile here. His many thought leadership articles are available at www.WallacekPond.com. Wallace began his career as a high school teacher and adjunct professor and spent six years in the elementary and secondary classroom working primarily with at-risk youth. He was also a public-school administrator and spent another six years as a full-time professor and administrator in the not-for-profit higher education sector, working in both on campus and online education, bringing education to underserved students. Additionally, Wallace has over 15-years of executive, private sector experience, creating a unique and powerful combination of mission-driven and business focused leadership and insights. Ways to connect with Wallace: www.wallacekpond.com www.transformationcollaborative.net https://www.linkedin.com/in/wallace-pond-47b05512/ https://www.amazon.com/Leadership-Real-World-Executive-Turbulent/dp/B08C49FQ6Q/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UIJFVM71G3RZ&keywords=leadership+in+the+real+world&qid=1704824712&s=books&sprefix=leadership+in+the+real+worl%2Cstripbooks%2C159&sr=1-1 About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi and welcome to unstoppable mindset. Welcome wherever you happen to be. I really am glad you're here with us. I'm Mike hingson, your host today. Our guest is Wallace Pond, a man of many talents. He's been very much involved in helping people and transforming he's got bachelor's, master's and PhDs all, well, I won't say all over the place, but, but he has a number of degrees. Yeah, we, we won't give them all away. I'll let you do that. And he's also now even becoming involved in more things relating to psychotherapy. So I'll have to have him talk to my cat and see if we can do something. Yeah, never, never sure that works. Is, does it? Wallace, but anyway, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're here.   Wallace Pond ** 02:08 Well, thank you so much, Mike. It's just a pleasure to be to be on the show with you. I appreciate what you got to be previously, and really appreciate also kind of the work that you do and what you've accomplished, and I think you have a really healthy and helpful perspective on a number of things, in particular diversity, but I think need to be that more people need to hear so I appreciate the opportunity to be with you well. Thank   Michael Hingson ** 02:37 you. I appreciate that, and would love to work with you any way that we can. Why don't we start on your podcast episode by you telling us kind of maybe a little bit about the early Wallace growing up and all that sort of stuff.   Wallace Pond ** 02:51 Yeah. So I was born in the deep south in the early 1960s very different time. My father was in the Air Force, so even though we were in Alabama, I was born into a desegregated military environment. This the in Montgomery, Alabama, the city was not desegregated. There were still separate bathrooms and water fountains for, quote, colored people, yeah, but on the Air Force Base, it was at least as desegregated as as the military could be at that time. But my folks and my family, both from Idaho, of all places, when my son was born there, about 30 years ago. He was the fifth generation from Idaho. My folks went back to Idaho when I was about, Gosh, nine years old.   Michael Hingson ** 03:49 So was it the military, though that influenced you not to have an Alabama accent?   Wallace Pond ** 03:54 Yeah. Probably parent, parents and military both. Okay, yeah, yeah. So my little sister and I, we were in Alabama and Georgia, Maryland before we went back to Idaho. But yeah, we sort of never got that southern accent, although given an opportunity, I can slip into it, and I certainly recognize it, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 04:17 well, and I love to use the words y'all and all y'all. And I know the difference between the two, which a lot of people don't, but it's   Wallace Pond ** 04:25 a third. There's a third, which is the plural possessive, all, y'all. Oh, all, y'all, that's right, yeah, yeah, which, which, not everybody, which, you don't hear all the time. But no, you're in the South. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 04:37 I love language. Anyway, so you were saying so, yeah.   Wallace Pond ** 04:44 So moved out to Idaho, back to Idaho. That's where my folks were from. And kind of feel like I, you know, some really formative years, nine to probably 18 or so in Idaho, and just had. You know, the the great pleasure over both when I was a child, living with my parents, and then also once I was independent, out of the home. Probably lived in. I could, I could, you know, calculate it, but lived in probably a dozen states, half a dozen countries. Uh, visited 39 or 40 countries. So just one of those people, you know, some folks, one model is to kind of grow up somewhere and be from there, and that's, you know, kind of how you identify. And then there's other folks, like I who just, you know, it's a very different perspective, and it's, you know, a lot of moves, a lot of different experiences, I think my wife and I, we've been married 34 years, and we stopped moving quite so much in the last, oh, probably 15 but I think we've moved 11 times. And in fact, the last kind of big adventure was we spent a couple years over the United Arab Emirates. I was a CEO running a company over there, as well as a college president, at the same time doing both in Abu Dhabi, and that kind of a long arc where I am now. But there was through that. There was there was kind of like K 12 experience, university experience, corporate experience, so pretty kind of broad based, you know, personal and professional background. As you said, I more recently got into into the field of psychotherapy as an actual therapist. That was kind of an interesting career shift, but, but really timely and probably one of the most congruent decisions I've ever made in my life, in terms of, you know, making a life decision that turned out to align with what I wanted to be true and what was making sense for me at The time. So kind of a long arc, but here we are. Here   Michael Hingson ** 07:03 we are. Where did you? Where did you go to college? Yeah, so   Wallace Pond ** 07:07 initially, University of Utah, okay, and I, and I pursued a degree in Spanish and Hispanic literature, which also kind of was not purposeful, it wasn't part of a plan, but it really had a significant impact on some of the things I did in my life, and certainly some of the cultural experiences I had as a student, I lived in Spain and Mexico as well, and then as a professional and as an adult, I also lived in Puerto Rico for three years. So Spanish and Spanish culture kind of a big part, at least earlier in my career, up through probably, I think I was, I left Puerto Rico in 2013 after three years there. So that was, that was kind of the undergraduate. And then, as you mentioned, I have, I have multiple I have three different graduate degrees, two two masters and a PhD in the one at Boston University that was back in the 90s, and then a PhD in education. And then I went back to school for the fourth time, about, Gosh, three or four years ago, when I decided I wanted to go into the helping professions again and be a counselor, and so that was a master's in clinical mental health. And I've been practicing. I've been seeing clients for about three years. I've been I've been seeing clients post grad, in both private practice and in a community health setting. Now for geez, I graduated in July of last year, so I probably, oh, maybe little over 1200 1300 hours of counseling at this point. So that's the educational story. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 09:05 I have to ask, since we talked about language and you spend some time at Boston University, yeah, and so on, did you ever learn to talk Bostonian?   Wallace Pond ** 09:16 So kind of like my experience in the south, you can do it, yeah, I can slip into it. I actually kind of enjoy it. I yeah, I do too, you know. But no, it's not something that I that I ever, ever adopted for myself.   Michael Hingson ** 09:33 I lived in Windsor mass for three years, so I spent some time in the Boston area,   Wallace Pond ** 09:40 great town, you know, Boston. I did a lot of that work, actually overseas, in an overseas program in Germany, of all places. So it's kind of a long, winding road. I've   Michael Hingson ** 09:52 heard that one of my favorite restaurants in Boston closed around or just before the time of the pandemic, Durkin park at uh. And near Fennell Hall, yeah, Quincy Market, I heard that Durgan closed, yeah?   Wallace Pond ** 10:06 And, well, and that was not unique to them. I mean, yeah, the pandemic was pretty rough on restaurants, and a substantial number all over the country didn't, didn't make it through that? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 10:20 yeah. It's kind of sad. Long before the pandemic, the Carnegie Deli in New York closed, which was one of my favorites, and I knew the owner, but I think, yeah, and I don't even think they can, I don't even think they mail order anymore. I   Wallace Pond ** 10:36 don't know, but I do. I do remember, I do. I'm have some experience with the Carnegie Deli, because that's where I was introduced to pastrami. No better place, yes. And I didn't know I was a pastrami fan until then,   Michael Hingson ** 10:55 and the sandwiches were so small, yeah?   Wallace Pond ** 10:56 Well, right, yeah, it was a workout, like doing curls, lifting the sandwich. Yeah, I unfortunately, one of the things that happened being introduced to pastrami at the Carnegie Deli was I became kind of a pastrami snob. And so you know that my first introduction was as good as it gets. So yeah, it's hard for me to for pastrami to match up since then. Oh, gosh, that was a while ago.   Michael Hingson ** 11:23 Oh, it is. It's really hard. I'm still spoiled by the first Caesar salad I ever had. When my wife and I got married, we spent part of our time in Palm Springs, and then we went and spent the rest of our honeymoon in Phoenix and went to a hotel and stayed at a hotel called the point Tapatio, which had a restaurant up on top of the mountain. On one side, you could see Phoenix. On the other side, you could see Scottsdale. And we ordered Caesar salads that they made at tableside. And back then, in 1982 it included the rig and everything else. And it's still the best Caesar salad I ever had.   Wallace Pond ** 11:57 Yeah. Well, most people alive today are young with, oh, I would say most people born since maybe 819, 80 or so. Have you know, there used to be raw egg and a lot of stuff. Yeah, I don't know if you remember Orange Julius. Oh, yes, yeah, they used to get a raw egg. Was one of the ingredients you could get beat up in a in a smoothie. Yeah, those days are, sure. Guy, oh,   Michael Hingson ** 12:23 the days. Well, Steven, so, so what did you I was going to say, what did you do after college? But that's really kind of hard, because there's a lot of, a lot of after colleges for you. But you said Spanish wasn't really part of the plan, but yet, that's what you you did for an undergraduate degree? How come? Yeah,   Wallace Pond ** 12:43 so this is kind of a funny thing to even admit, but a lot of me back up a step. So my father, he had some kind of intuition, some kind of insight. He really believed it would be helpful for me, maybe really in terms of life experience, maybe in terms of just a skill set to be bilingual. And even back in high school, he started like, I'd come home and he put like, a pamphlet on my bed about, you know, Spanish language, or Spanish class or something like that, you know. And when I got to the University of Utah, I thought, you know, a little bit based upon his, you know, you know, suggestions and support. I i took a few Spanish I remember taking, you know, Spanish 101, then I kind of like that Spanish 102, I was a communications major at the time, and to be honest, I still don't know what that means, Mike, but I was a communications major, and at that time, it was the single largest major on campus, and you could not get courses you sent. You could not register for communications courses, and there were people who were being forced to spend an extra year or more at the U just to get the courses they needed to graduate. And in the meantime, I had said, Well, I'll get a minor. And I thought, well, if I'm gonna get a minor, I probably need to be able to speak it. So I decided to do a study abroad in Spain. Went to school at the University of Seville, four days a week, four hours a day, immersed in Spanish and subjects being taught in Spanish. And by the time I got back, I had, I had earned so many credits in Spanish that there was a pretty quick path to a degree in Spanish and and I didn't have to worry about the problem of not getting courses in in communication, communications, yeah, yeah. So when I got back to the and I also got a bunch more credit by passing some tests, some clap tests, and ended up, you know, with a degree. Did another study in Mexico, ended up with a degree in Spanish. Mentioned Hispanic literature. It just it was the path of least resistance, and something that I really enjoyed. So that's how that happened. I mean, there truly was no plan.   Michael Hingson ** 15:12 Well, things work out, though may not have been part of the plan, but it certainly sounds like it worked out well for you, and it helped integrate into everything that followed, which is always a good thing. It absolutely did. Yeah, I know when I went to UC Irvine starting in the fall of 1968 I entered the year that they had their first graduating class. So the first graduation was for seniors. Was 69 but they also had graduate school, they had medical some medical schools and so on. And very quickly, the school had become known for science, and a lot of people wanted to go off and become doctors. So the year that I entered 1600 people enrolled in organic well or enrolled in biology, and they all wanted to go off and be doctors and all that. And the biosci people said, Okay, well, before you can really be serious about a bio sci major, you're going to have to take a year of organic chemistry   Wallace Pond ** 16:24 that that that that weeded a few folks out, didn't it? From the   Michael Hingson ** 16:29 beginning of my freshman year to the end of my sophomore year, the number of students in biology dropped from 1600 freshmen to 200 sophomores.   Wallace Pond ** 16:38 Yeah, yeah. That's a, I think, a typical experience with I took organic chemistry much later in life. It's another kind of part of my minding journey. But I took an entire pre med curriculum after I finished my PhD, just for pure Self edification. And you know, I was always troubled by the fact that I got through three degrees without really having a good science Corps. And so while I was working as a professor at a college, I ended up taking, well, all but one course of a pre med curriculum. And I remember exec, I remember organic chemistry, and I remember just kind of that, that moment, that realization, where you cannot fake this, no you will put in the time, or you will not get out. Well, I did that. I   Michael Hingson ** 17:29 got my master's degree, my bachelor's and master's in physics, so I did not take organic chemistry. But I know everybody was complaining about memorizing all the reactions and all that and and, you know, I respect it, but I'm glad I didn't have to take it.   Wallace Pond ** 17:44 Yeah, I enjoyed it, but it was also something that, you know, it, like I said, it's not something you can fake, no, it's a completely different animal than than inorganic chemistry. Fascinating, really fascinating, actually, yeah, but definitely requires some mental effort.   Michael Hingson ** 18:06 I enjoyed hearing people talk about it, and enjoyed listening to all of that, but it was different than what I enjoyed doing. And I loved physics, and was especially always interested in the philosophy of physics, the history and philosophy, and of course, one of the big debates about physics is, is it really a quantum and does God throw dice, or is it, is it in reality that there is really determinism and and that's a question that physics still hasn't answered yet. Some people think it has, but it hasn't yet well,   Wallace Pond ** 18:38 and the answer to that question has huge implications for psychology and free will, sure   Michael Hingson ** 18:42 it does all of that. Sure it does, sure, and I am sure that eventually it will all get realized. And you know, my belief is that there are basic laws of the universe and that there are laws that we have to obey to to really progress, but it's our choice. And I, and I am absolutely a firm believer in the fact that there is such a thing as free will and choice.   Wallace Pond ** 19:09 Yeah, and I, I it may be, it may be that we at some point come to some kind of melding of the two, whereby there is some level of free choice or agency, but that that's highly influenced by underlying physics principles of some sort. Correct? Exactly? Yeah, yeah. Ray Kurzweil, the   Michael Hingson ** 19:35 futurist and inventor and a man I worked for for a few years when he was developing the Kurzweil Reading Machine created a doc, or there is a documentary about him. And at the end, he said, you know, everybody keeps wondering if there is a God, and he said, there isn't yet, because we haven't invented it. And I do not buy into Ray's I don't buy into Ray's argument that I don't think that works. Yeah. Yeah, but it is interesting and but you're right, it all really does come down to in psychology, a question of free will, a question of so many different things, and I and eventually will understand it   Wallace Pond ** 20:13 well. And there's an in there other related concepts, you know, for example, the notion of growth mindset, which is a really interesting concept, Carol Dweck, out of Stanford, was the one who kind of popularized this. But the idea that growth mindset, as opposed to fixed mindset, suggests that our futures are malleable, that that our ability to to learn, to grow to achieve objectives is at some significant level determined by whether or not we believe that we can grow and change and progress through new talents and perspectives, etc, versus the extent to which we believe it's more fixed, and that those limits are kind of innate, and there's a there's a potential physics element to that as well. Having said that, I do believe in mostly it's just observation that it absolutely is possible to to grow dramatically, intellectually, spiritually, academically, I'm Trying to some other examples might be things like emotionally, that we are, you know, capable. That's why we have neocortical functions, right, as human rights, right, even separate from other mammals, we have parts of our brain that do stuff, right, you know, that are that are pretty amazing, and that allow for pretty intense evolution. And I don't mean evolution in the historical sense, although that has its own place. I mean as individuals, right? You know, the ability to kind of evolve in the context of our environment. So it we probably won't have a final answer any of that before you and I are gone. But it is a, it is a topic that I find fascinating. Oh,   Michael Hingson ** 22:30 I do too, and, and, of course, the the other part of the question is, you say we may not have an answer before we're gone. Will we really be gone or whatever? So there's, there's that too, right?   Wallace Pond ** 22:45 Yeah, yeah. And I, you know, as part of my own mental health journey, you know, I'm a counselor, but I'm also, you know, in our field, we have this, this, this concept of wounded healer. And, you know, I didn't, you know, just randomly pop up one day in, you know, going from being a corporate executive or a university president to being a psychotherapist, I had my own journey as well mental health journey, and I put myself certainly in that category of of wounded healer. But when we think about, you know, the human experience, right? And as we think about the kinds of things that, just either by chance or by purpose, end up being part of that journey, for me, being exposed to Buddh principles and Buddhist thoughts, Buddhist ideas was really critical in my own healing and the whole notion of impermanence and afterlife. The Buddh take on that, I think, is really compelling. And this idea that there is an afterlife in the sense that we are all comprised of elements and molecules and atoms that will continue on in multiple forms, and that we're comprised of atoms and molecules that have been around, you know, that belonged, that were part of someone in the Roman Empire and part of someone in Greek times, and part of someone on the Savannah, or some animal on the savannah millions of years ago. And although it may not be sort of a Christian notion of an integrated afterlife as some version of yourself, right? I find that the Buddhist perspective really compelling. This idea that you know, the energy, the mass, the mole, the atoms that comprise us do continue on. And there may, in fact, be some integrated version of. That, who knows, you know, my father passed away a few years ago, and and one of the ways that I have, one of the ways that I have grieved that, and one of the ways I have dealt with that loss, is I frequently talk to him, and every you know, and every now and then I'll ask him, you know, you know, I'll tell him, gosh, I wish he could let me know what happened like. So what is it? You know, where are you? Are you know, do you have consciousness? And you know, maybe some way, sometime he'll answer. But for me, right now, a big part of of of that healing in that, in that grieving has been to maintain that relationship with Him through conversation.   Michael Hingson ** 25:45 And should I believe absolutely, I think there's a lot to be said for for the merits of what you were just describing. And the issue, I think, is that, if we also go back to what really is God, you've got the Christians who have tried to shape God in the sense in their image, more than the other way around, and others have done that too, but, but the reality is what really is God, and I think God is the underlying principle for all of us, and I think that we're all part of that God. And so when your father died, or my wife passed away in the end of 2022 there they are still there. I love to tell people that I am absolutely certain that Karen monitors me, and if I misbehave, I'm going to hear about it. So I have to behave, otherwise, I'm going to be in serious trouble.   Wallace Pond ** 26:45 Yeah, you know, there's an interesting I just, I'm just about to finish an absolutely profound book by an author, physician, philosopher. His name is Gabor Mate. He was a survivor of the Holocaust. He was a child of an infant. Actually, the book is called The Myth of normal, absolutely seminal, fabulous, fabulous book, just in general, but also resonates with me on my own mental health journey and as a counselor. But he makes reference in the book to to the actress as Ashley Judd and and a quote of hers, a phrase of hers, which is, I want to, I don't want to mess up the the quote. It is, surrendering to a god you don't believe in the idea that you know, you don't have to believe in a deity in any sort of, you know, codified religious, you know, institutional way to still surrender to, to, to a sense of, of, of a higher power, yeah. And I just, I, you know, I just really appreciated that quote from Ashley Judd, and I think it's really applicable, this idea that we don't have to be dogmatic. We don't have to be it's, you know, an ethical, institutional approach to surrender to a god we don't believe in. You know, that that we can surrender to something bigger, something beyond our own physical existence   Michael Hingson ** 28:24 well and in the Buddha oriented world, it is also, isn't even a matter of surrendering. It's a matter of believing you're a part of and being willing to progress and grow. And oh, I can't resist telling one of my favorite jokes, and I've not done it on here before, I used to listen to Hal Holbrook doing Mark Twain tonight. Oh, okay, we did a great imitation of Mark Twain. And I don't know if it was actually Mark Twain that said it, but I attribute it to Mark Twain. But I heard Hal Holbrook say it. He said, You know, when we die, we're going to go to heaven, and when we go to heaven, assuming we go to heaven, we're going to probably be up on a cloud, and we're going to have harp music in the background, and we're going to study, and the more we study, the more we progress, and the more we progress, the more we study. And we're just going to be up there. We're going to study and study and study and progress and progress and progress. And if that isn't hell, I don't know   Wallace Pond ** 29:15 what is that that sounds like a Mark Twain. It   Michael Hingson ** 29:17 does sound like a Mark Twain, and I would suspect that it really came from him somewhere. Oh, gosh, but, but, you know, the the reality is that I think we impose way too many limitations on God and our relationship with God, and it's and it doesn't help us to do it. And I, you know, I hear what Ashley Judd is saying, but again, I think it's not so much a surrender as it is recognizing you're a part of   Wallace Pond ** 29:48 Yeah. That makes sense to me too. Michael, so what   Michael Hingson ** 29:50 did you do when you graduated from college? Initially, I will, I'll tell you the first time, what did what kind of our career path did you go on to?   Wallace Pond ** 29:58 Yeah? So in me. Immediately, I just went to work as a as a school teacher in a in a school for at risk youth in Salt Lake City. I taught Spanish, but I also taught English and introductory algebra and earth science. And, you know, a very common kind of thing in in small schools, you're a generalist, unlike, you know, in large districts, where you kind of, you just teach English all day or whatever.   Michael Hingson ** 30:33 Yeah, I grew up in my teachers were generalists,   Wallace Pond ** 30:36 yeah, yeah. And we also had an intense Outdoor Program in that school. So it was really interesting. We did, you know, we did, you know, snow camping, and we did survival, you know, hikes in southern Utah, you know, just what you could carry on your back. And, you know, through the desert for days, in addition to the, you know, the school work, or the classroom work, which itself was also not very traditional. So, you know, for example, we the classes were a mix of ages. You know, I taught classes with, you know, 1213, year olds and 17 year olds in the same class. It was just, it was dependent upon, you know, academic inclination, desire to be in a big, you know, particular course, you know, in that school was actually pre K, 12, so, you know, just some amazing, amazing experiences for me and for the and for the students, you know, 30 plus years later, whatever it was, 3435 years later, I still remember, you know, I have this, this image, and it's just such a poignant, touching image, particularly when we think about at risk youth and at Risk teenagers, I think we don't always have a very charitable view of kids that don't fit in, and adolescents and teens, you know, that that oftentimes are considered to be, you know, kind of unrefined or self centered or whatever. And I had this image. I still see it. We the this, the school had had a downstairs and an upstairs. And I remember one of my students, he was 18 years old. And, you know, this is back in, gosh, the 80s, and he, would, you know, black leather. You know studs on the leather. You know Jack boots. You know wallet on a chain. You know the kids about, you know, six two and about 190 pounds, the kind of kid that would scare the hell out a lot of people just looking at him, you know, but I had this mental image of of him walking down the stairs, and he's holding the hand of a four year old, helping the four year old down the stairs. I even get a little emotional thinking about it, 35 years later, you know the kind of kid that is so misunderstood, the kind of kid that you know has struggled so much to fit in, the kind of kid who you know is just constantly been battling between, you know, authenticity and acceptance. And here he is, you know, going down the stairs, holding the hand of a four year old preschooler to help him get down the stairs. And I just can't imagine a more poignant vision, yeah, and, and that was a, you know, those kinds of things were common experiences for me in those first couple of years teaching in that environment after my undergraduate work, I   Michael Hingson ** 34:01 spent a number of years living in and around well, I lived in New Jersey and worked in New York, but even before living there, company I worked for allowed me to travel to sell because we were being so successful, we couldn't just do it all from the phone in Southern California. So I stayed at a hotel, oftentimes in the middle of New York, near Times Square. And when I went out at night, there were people, are you? Do you remember the old the guardian angels?   Wallace Pond ** 34:34 Oh yeah. So   Michael Hingson ** 34:36 this guy would come up to me and he said, I'm with the guardian angels. He said, I just want to walk with you, just to make sure you stay safe. And safe. And I said, you know, you don't really need to. I'm really good. We said, we're going to anyway. And when what I've always realized, though, and he was good company, he was great. But what I also realized is that, in general, if you treat people well and. So if you don't act like a jerk, then they're going to, most likely treat you well as as well. And yeah, I never did have a problem with anyone in New York. I had a couple people who would come up to me and say, Does your dog bite? Because I always had my guide dog right, right? And I never knew why they asked. And so my response was, Well, you know, he's not trained to do that, but I wouldn't want to be the person to try to find out. And actually, the reason I use that answer was right. My first guide dog was a golden retriever, and one day we were at UC Irvine on campus, and some students would bring their dogs to college, and then then just let them roam. And a bunch of them organized a pack, and they actually came after me and my guy dog, Squire, who was this wonderful, loving golden retriever, right? And so we were walking, and these dogs were coming up on us from the rear, and Squire jerked away from me. I still had his leash, but he jerked away. So I lost grip on the harness. He turned around and crouched down and growled at these dogs. I've never heard him do that. Oh, wow. And they all just stopped and backed up and somebody else was watching. And he told me later, they just walked away with their tails between their legs, wow. Yeah, and you know, so, like I said, it's all about love, but I think it goes both ways. That with a dog, I wouldn't want to be the person to try to find out whether if they attacked me, my dog would bite. But I think also it's just as true with people. I'm not quite as sure today with all the drug stuff going on, but you know, the reality is, I think for the most part, people really are going to treat you well if you treat them well. Yeah,   Wallace Pond ** 36:47 I don't, I don't challenge that. Michael, I but what I would say is, I think one of the, one of the genuine sort of societal problems, manifestations, let's call it, of the kind of polarization and tribalism that's becoming more and more common. Yeah, is, you know, the deeper that people turn into their own tribe, right? You know, the the more that people insulate themselves from other people that you know don't share their views or their background or their culture. I think one of the real, potentially profound dangers of this tribalized tribalism, and whether it's, whether it's in social media or, you know, where we congregate, you know, face to face, and the deep polarization, not just you know you're wrong, but you're wrong and you're bad, is, is, I think, one of the things that we're really in danger of through that tribalism and isolation is that I think we are broadly use, losing the capacity to navigate conversations, relationships, conflict, agreed with, with people that aren't Like us, right? And I think that's potentially dangerous.   Michael Hingson ** 38:22 I think it's absolutely dangerous, because   Wallace Pond ** 38:25 that skill, that ability to survive to in the face of someone who has very different beliefs, and to get through that without unhealthy conflict, to get through that without casting, you know, aspersions, to get through that without personal attacks, I think is is critical to kind of a functioning society, because we are always going to have diverse perspectives, diverse religions, diverse cultures, diverse political perspectives. That's always going to be true. So the extent to which we are able to navigate that in a productive way is really critical, and I fear that we are because we turn towards what we know with tribalism that we're just losing the opportunity to engage other people who may be quite different than we are, and do that successfully, whereas The you know, turning inward to the tribe actually exacerbates? Well,   Michael Hingson ** 39:44 yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. I guess I'm a little bit of an oddity, even in, I think, among some blind people in that having never seen to me, somebody with a. Skin color is simply a concept, and the it doesn't matter to me about about color, and I work very hard to make sure that I continue with that kind of attitude, because it doesn't really matter to me what a person's skin color is and have never seen it. Haven't ever seen different skin colors. And frankly, I know I can say with certainty I don't care. Now, not everybody necessarily knows me well enough to believe that, but it is still true, because having never seen it. You know intellectually, I know what red is, I know what blue is. I know what Black is. I know what white is, and we can talk about it in terms of wavelength of light too. But you know it's it's still not something that becomes an issue for me. And it amazes me when I hear people talking about and demonstrating prejudice about different skin colors and so on, because it's just not something that really is an issue for me, and I'm always amazed by it. Yeah,   Wallace Pond ** 41:08 it's interesting point you make. I mean, just engaging the life, just engaging life in general, in the absence of visual stimuli, you obviously are have honed very finely other senses. But this idea, you know, and in our culture, in in Western and particularly American culture, it is profoundly visual,   Michael Hingson ** 41:36 yeah, oh, it is, Oh, absolutely, you know. And look, I know blind people who are very prejudiced, and maybe some of them never saw but they've learned it. Fortunately, I'm blessed that I refuse to learn that concept.   Wallace Pond ** 41:50 That's interesting thought, isn't it? You know, I know that we have learned to be incredibly judgmental based upon visual stimuli, right? Is someone short? Are they tall? Do they have acne? You know, are they overweight? What clothes are they wearing? You know, they have the right shoes. And you may be able to determine some of that through other senses at some point, but you would never initially engage someone based upon that perspective, because you wouldn't have it. Mm, hmm. So a very interesting thought, you know, and I,   Michael Hingson ** 42:33 I know my wife and and I also believe my wife was, although she was cited, never really had that kind of prejudice, because she grew up with around people of different skin colors and different races and so on. But we would be talking about sometimes political debates, and she would say, well, so and so knows about that, because he's black. And I would sit there and go, huh? Because I if there was, you know, I couldn't tell that they were black, you know. And it amazed me, and it didn't change my opinion at all. Now, the fact that he was a politician, that's a different prejudice, but that's another story, right? But, but, you know, they're fun to pick on, but, but, you know, the bottom line is that that we've really got to get somehow over some of these things. And I agree with you that the art of conversation, the ability to converse, the ability to really interact with other people, is being lost because of so many things, and that is so unfortunate. Yeah,   Wallace Pond ** 43:38 and I don't want to be Pollyannaish, I mean, or oversimplified a situation. I mean, like I said, I was born in Montgomery, Alabama in the 1960s and there was no need for social media, for people to make judgments, to isolate, you know, to to, I mean, it was legislated. It was it was policy. I mentioned, you know, the colored water fountains and bathrooms. So this is not new. It's, you know, that kind of thing was, has existed in many, many contexts. I think, I think what's qualitatively different today a couple things. One is the existence that the medium, you know, mass media and social media, have a kind of power that I that didn't exist before a platform and an anonymity. You know, you can, you can say things and do things today that wouldn't have been acceptable because you would have been accountable, yeah, in the past, right? It was attached to you individually. So I think that's, that's one change. I think another change is whether we call it, you know, civility, or whether we call it norms, you know, I'm. I'm, you know, I'll be 60 next year. So, you know, I've been around for a little while, but not that long, compared to some people, but in terms of norms, just in the last call it 510, years, maybe even less than 10. I've been just stunned, frankly, by the things that it's now kind of okay to say and do. Yeah, you know that that we just sort of blown through the guard rails? You know that I think, used to kind of exist. It wasn't that you couldn't think it. It wasn't that it didn't exist. It was that there were some sort of norms about what it was sort of okay or acceptable to say or do, kind of in a in a civil society. And I think we've really blown through those guardrails. Social media has helped that politics.   Michael Hingson ** 45:54 What's one example of that?   Wallace Pond ** 45:59 Yeah, so something that comes to mind is, you know, people flaming other people online and social media, right? Personal attacks, yeah, particularly when people are vulnerable. You know, if you're face to face, or if you're in a, you know, a group that's co located with other people if you are on the phone, even, right? It was much, much harder, yeah, to launch those sort of personal, corrosive attacks on people than it is now. You know, I think in politics, you know, there are politicians now who say things, oh yeah, that you couldn't say and survive as a politician,   Michael Hingson ** 46:51 and still shouldn't, but do, yeah,   Wallace Pond ** 46:55 even 10 years ago, let alone 2030 Yeah, it's not that politicians didn't think it, or weren't capable, you know, of it. It's just, you know, I think of like criticism of families, of of war heroes, yeah, you know. Or just weird stuff, like, when did that become? Okay? Yeah?   Michael Hingson ** 47:18 Oh, I hear you. And social media has certainly not helped the process. No,   Wallace Pond ** 47:24 I think what it's done is it's anonymized, least in your mind, if not literally,   Michael Hingson ** 47:30 yeah, which is so scary. I hope we grow up and learn, but you know, we'll see. So what you taught for a while, then what did you go do?   Wallace Pond ** 47:43 Yeah, so again, I never really had a plan. And I know for some people, plans are helpful, important. They provide security. I truly, Michael, never had a quote plan for anything that happened in my life. You know, I've done everything from Teach bilingual kindergarten to run large corporations domestically and internationally, and I've just never had a plan. I've taken advantage of opportunities, and I've kind of pursued things that felt exciting or right, but I I've never really had a plan. So, you know, after my initial teaching experience, I ended up marrying someone who said, Look, I'm going to go work in Germany. I have a job over there. And if you want to come, you can come. If you're not, I'm leaving. So we ended up getting married and going over there together, and we're over there for a few years working for the Department of Defense and Education roles. And then came back to the US, did some more K 12 work, then went full time into higher education, as a as a professor, teaching people to be teachers, as well as Spanish and linguistics. Then moved into the corporate world for a while, came back into higher education, did some senior roles, including President, CEO at a few different institutions of higher education, some in the US, some abroad, and been in the C suite several times in corporate settings, Chief Operating Officer, Chief Executive Officer, the last kind of formal thing I did, working for someone else and or working for a board, I guess I would say, was in the Middle East, United Arab Emirates, and fascinating, wonderful experience. Just so glad I did it. Yeah, for. A cultural perspective, from a growth perspective, the hardest job ever done as a CEO. Never experienced quite that combination of challenges as a CEO, but just a fabulous experience in my wife and younger daughter, who's now off away at college. They lived there in the winter and were able to escape in the summer. I was not, you know, 120 degrees in 85% humidity. Yeah, yeah. Winter's stunning, beautiful, but summer is really hard, yeah. And they would come back to the mountains, you know, Colorado in the summer. But, and something's really interesting to happen when I came back from that. You know, this is kind of interesting. It helps explain, sort of, how did I go from that to working as a psychotherapist, and I still do consulting work and support organizations with transformational change and leadership and things like that. But So how does one go from the CEO of a of a company in Abu Dhabi and the president of a college system to going back to school for the fourth time and becoming a mental health counselor? And the short version to that is when I got back from the UAE, I asked myself a very different question for the first time than I would have in the past. So in the past, the question would have been something to the effect of, you know, what's the next job? And I was in a position to have some time off and kind of decompress. And I didn't ask that question. I asked a very, very different question, which was, what do I want to be true in my life? And I had some support with a counselor for that question, and kind of how I kind of fleshed the answer out and and when I was when I had come up with the answer of what I want to be true in my life, it became very clear that I could not do what I'd always been doing and achieve what I wanted to be true in my life, Those didn't align anymore, and so I had to think very differently about what I was going to do going forward. And that was not so ironically, the same time, but I began to really, really experience some pretty intense mental health challenges, which I had never experienced before. I mean, I had never even really experienced anxiety before like that. I I was my experience was so different for so long, 50 plus years. But when it changed, it point. It changed pretty rapidly and pretty dramatically, and I found myself in a situation where mental health and mental health challenges were now, were kind of Central, and I really had to figure some stuff out. And so that happened at the same time I was kind of pursuing that question of what I want to be different in my life, or two in my life. And what came out of that, in addition to my own kind of healing journey, was this idea that one of the ways that I could achieve, one of the things that I wanted to be true in my life, was to be in the helping professions and to and to leverage my own mental health journey to help others, to be, as I mentioned earlier on, the call A wounded healer, which, by the way, is the case for a lot of counselors. A lot of therapists are wounded healers. And so that's how I kind of got to the place of going back to school and being a counselor, and how that decision had kind of the most congruence, the most alignment of probably any life decision I've ever made, personal or professional, in terms of a decision that supported what I wanted to be true. And that started, gosh, a little over three years ago, is when I went back to school, and now, as I mentioned, I've been seeing clients for, gosh, since December 21 still as a student. And then now I have a private practice. I also work for a community health operation and agency, and I made that choice because I want I didn't want to be in a situation where a client was that could ever I don't want to be in a situation where someone couldn't see me because they couldn't pay and so that's what community health is. It is a. Um, it is a very different environment than private practice. I do both. It is people, you know, court mandated, lot of alcohol and drug substance abuse issues, domestic violence, really, really intense challenges. And I love the work. Sometimes it's overwhelming, but it allows me to really contribute in the ways I've wanted to contribute to people who really desperately need it and may not have the means to pursue that otherwise.   Michael Hingson ** 55:37 Well, you certainly set your your mind and your goals on a on a lofty, although I don't think an impossible task, but given everything that you've done, it's probably reasonable to say you're going to, going to do a pretty good job of helping to to accomplish some of that, or at least make the world better because of it. And you know that's that's hard to argue with. I'm really impressed, and look forward to seeing how the progress goes. Tell me about the transformation collaborative you founded that you also have a couple of LLCs that you've created along the way. Yeah. So the transformation   Wallace Pond ** 56:16 collaborative that was also in that same period of time where I had asked that question, what do I want to be true in my life, versus just what's the next job? And it was a really interesting process. It was about nine months, 12 months, kind of a rotating group of people just kind of brainstorming, noodling on, you know, if we were going to build a consultancy from scratch based on what we know as professionals, based upon our experience, you know, engaging with consultants as as consumers of consultancy, what would it look like? And we came up with it was kind of two, it turned out, you know, through that process, the sort of two driving elements came out of that. One was, we probably have to reinvent the consultancy itself. Because one of the things that kept coming up in the in that brainstorming conversation stuff, was that, you know, the traditional, particularly, you know, the big consultancies, that traditional model is just woefully inadequate. Much of the time. It's overpriced, you know, it's it's superficial, it's on the outside. I won't go into details about all the things that are broken with it, but, but basically, you know what happens is an agency, you know, has a couple of meetings, you know, they put together a report, they throw it over the wall, they have a celebration dinner, they go on to the next client. You know, there's no sense of accountability. There's no role in execution. I'm not talking ever, just broadly. That's yeah, so we the first thing we decide is, you know, what, if we're going to do this, we're not going to do it that way. In fact, we refer to ourselves as embedded partners. We don't call ourselves consultants. Our goal is to, really, you know, to play a role in getting the client from A to B, you know, including actually providing labor, bandwidth, accountability, execution. So that's the first thing that was very different, and also different in terms of how we operate. I told you previously, before we were on the air, you know, we don't have non disclosure agreements with our partners. We don't have, you know, non competes. It's very different. We don't skim out the top, we don't take commissions, but none of that stuff. You know, it's a very different model. The second thing that we determined as part of that process was, you know, if we're going to bring, really bring value, and we're going to be doing what we want to do, you know, we want congruence between what we're doing what we want to do? It really can't be about incremental stuff. It can't be transactional. It can't be, you know, help with a computer program, or, you know, help with a compliance issue. There are lots of folks that do that, lots of agencies that do that. They do it really well, but if we were going to be embedded partners, and if we were going to be doing what we wanted to do, it had to be transformational. It had to be supporting organizations to reinvent themselves for the world they're in, not the one they were founded in. And so those two things came out of that process, and that's what the transformation collaborative. Transformation collaborative is. There's two main things we do. One is supporting organizations through some version of reinvention, transformation, innovation, and the other is leadership. You know, we. We take, we are pretty kind of harsh in our assessment of what we view as leadership deficiencies, even leadership crisis in many organizations today. And so we've developed a model for kind of the competencies and traits that we believe are required for leaders to be effective today, and more importantly, we've developed a program to support that, and we don't call it leadership development, because we feel like that's also not what this is. That's a buzzword. It's a buzzword, and I think it's also a little bit even tainted, because so much leadership development is about the wrong stuff. We refer to it as leadership discovery. And the way the program operates is we support leaders in discovering themselves, as people, as leaders, as identifying elements of of that skill set and traits that they can gravitate towards and really develop or not develop, but can really leverage. Let's use that word to be more effective. And you know, just give you just a really quick example. You know, where of the mind that leadership is rarely, rarely anymore about technical skills. It's rarely about, you know, a leader's own labor, all the stuff that's been traditional leadership stuff is just price of entry. Now, you know, if you aren't, you know, skilled with PNL, if you, you know, can't work well with a board, if you don't have basic management skills, then that's a very different problem. And you know, we see kind of the primary role of leaders today, in addition to facilitating change and transformation, is human capital. The idea being that everything else is a commodity financing, technology, you name it. That's all has a very short shelf life, shelf life, but as a leader, if you can develop powerful, powerful human capital in your organization, that's not a commodity, that's a deep competitive advantage, and it's about ensuring that Your organization is successful, because you make other people successful, yeah, not because you are an individual rock star with your technical skills or business savvy   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:48 interesting. One of the things that I used to do when I managed and led sales teams and people in companies is I always would say to them, you know, I hired you because I know you can do the job, but at least you sold me on the fact that you can do the job. Some people did a better job of selling and didn't necessarily be as successful as I would have liked, but that's okay, but, but my job isn't to boss you around. My job is to work with you to figure out how I can add value to make you more successful. And the people who got that and who were willing to work on that with me were successful, and we figured out what each other's skills were, and sometimes I taught them things that they didn't know. And went both ways, but we worked together and they were more successful. It's all about collaboration. Yeah,   Wallace Pond ** 1:03:41 it's collaboration. And, you know, in a big element, and the collaboration is part of that, in our view, in our view, just at the transmission collaborative, a big chunk of that human capital piece. It's not just, it's not just leveraging labor. In fact, the last thing, right, that's the last thing it is. What it's about is in you know, in fact, we, we like eschew terms like employees, labor, workforce, workers, because we feel like that commoditizes The people who can potentially bring value in the organization. Yeah, it's our belief that if leaders can engage the people in their organization as human beings, if they see the workforce as humanity, and that's and that's, you know, as simple as that is, you will not hear leadership development organizations say that. We'll say it that way, no. But if leaders can see people in their organization as humanity and can address. As such, and can see them as human beings who don't stop being human at the office door. It's not easy. It's hard to put on a spreadsheet. It's a long term proposition, but if an organization truly wants to be sustainable, if they truly want to outgrow or grow at a rate greater than the competition, it is not going to come from commodities like their next technology or even their access to capital. It's going to be do they have, do they have people in the organization that are fully engaged, that are committed to the organization because they feel valued and taken care of. That's, you know, again, it sounds very simple. That's not language you typically hear in a conversation like this, no,   Michael Hingson ** 1:05:59 and it's not necessarily easy to make happen, but if you do it and you learn how to do it, the more you do it, the easier it becomes. You know, I have heard many people say that they really love their job to the point where it's not a job anymore. It says it's a labor of love. It is what they love to do. And I think as a leader, part of my responsibility is to help people explore that opportunity with whatever they're doing, and the ones who truly discover that they love what they do will will do the very kinds of things that you're talking about.   Wallace Pond ** 1:06:41 Yeah, and you know, one of the things that kind of is frustrating to us, if not even confusing to us at the transformation collaborative, is the extent to which, I mean, again, sometimes we take kind of a harsh position, but the extent to which people should kind of know better are, are, you know, either just doing the wrong thing or clueless, yeah, you know. And one of the big organizations, one of the big consultancies that we still have a lot of faith in, is Gallup, and that's because they're, you know, they have such massive data sets, and they really get it in terms of the people piece. They really, really get it in terms of, you know, the human piece. And, you know, employee engagement detachment continues to decline, you know, from four years ago, they continue. The data is just in for 2023 you know, and they continue to feel lower levels of satisfaction and less connection to mission and purpose. And as a result, they are more and more disengaged. And that's just profoundly expensive to organizations, yeah, to have these huge payrolls of people that are disengaged and and they don't get it. And yeah, get it, yeah, and the data is there, right? And the and folks are are communicating what's not working for them. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 1:08:23 it's pretty straightforward, but people are listening Exactly,   Wallace Pond ** 1:08:26 yeah, and you know, people, they don't feel like they have authority in what's expected. Their managers are not giving them good feedback and coaching. You know, they might be managing time and resources, but they're not developing their people. No one asks anyone's opinion about contributing to goal setting or improvement or innovation. They don't feel like the organization gives a rat's ass about their well being, you know, their sense of purpose being part of a team, I said in a recent LinkedIn post just a few days ago. You know, this is not rocket science. I put it all caps, which I almost never do. This is not rocket science. And yet, there are so many leaders that just seem baffled by what's going on. And kind of, one of our goals at the at the transmission collaborative with our leadership Discovery Program, is to really, really get leaders over that hump, you know, and help them develop a completely different perspective. Now, you said it's not easy to do, and that's true, but it's not just because it's an it's a new approach, new skill set, right, new way of thinking, not just because, you know, organizational structures and compensation and culture doesn't necessarily support it, but it's also really hard because. Is, even if you're that kind of leader, that behavior is not traditionally rewarded for you as a leader, right? Like it, you know, it doesn't fit well into the you know, performance, you know, reports to the board and you know, on the fourth slide of the PowerPoint, it's, you know, it doesn't fit well into short term results. And so to do that as a leader, takes a tremendous amount of courage, and it's a really big risk, because you will be speaking a language that many people around you do not speak, that people you report to do not speak, and that has not been traditionally rewarded. So it's, it's, you're right. It is very hard to do for multiple reasons.   Michael Hingson ** 1:10:52 I hear you, you know what? We have been going almost 70 minutes, and I'm going to have to end because, because we have been going almost 70 minutes, yeah, but I think we should do another one of these.   Wallace Pond ** 1:11:06 I'd love to. In fact, I know that a whole bunch of the questions we kind of talked about before, I know we didn't even get   Michael Hingson ** 1:11:13 to, even get to so I would like to, yeah, I'm   Wallace Pond ** 1:11:16 totally fine. I love that. You know, these are the kinds of conversations I really, really enjoy Michael. I, you know, I don't think we do enough. You know, one of the things that I talked about, what I want to be true in my life, and what have I changed, and whatever, I dedicate a lot of time now to engagement, interactions, connections that I can't monetize, that, you know, that aren't about deliverables, that don't connect to some performance goal, but just are nourishing. Yeah, you know, just, and that's worth a lot, yeah? And I feel that's kind of what today's been. So I really appreciate that opportunity.   Michael Hingson ** 1:12:01 Well, if people want to reach out to you, maybe talk with you further, or consult or are use your your efforts and so on. How do they do that?   Wallace Pond ** 1:12:11 Yeah, so there's a couple ways to do that. If they want to go poke around on the transformation collaborative website, website, then they'll see a lot of stuff about, you know, research. We've done things, we've published trends, services. We provide both with transformation and leadership, discovery.

Jenny confronts her stepfather then we take a long honeymoon!by Sénor Longo. Listen to the  ► Podcast at Connected.After lunch we walked together along the waterfront, watching the ferry to Bridgeport dock, disgorge its cargo of cars and trucks then fill its decks with those waiting to cross the Sound. The ferry was a great alternative to driving into and through New York City before heading north. I had always used the ferry when going to Boston or Cambridge, saving two or more hours and a boatload of hassle every time.Mom gave us a ride back to the station at 3:40 for the 4:06 train back to Penn Station. I was pleased to see Mom and Jenny hug before we climbed the ladder onto the train. We waved to Mom as the train pulled out.“Did Mom say something to you while you were hugging?”“Yes, she gave me some advice.”“Oh?”“Yes, she told me you were nothing like your father. I already knew that. I can't see you ever cheating and I know I would never cheat on you so I guess we're stuck with each other, forever.”I leaned in for a kiss that lasted longer than it should considering where we were then I whispered in Jenny's ear, “I certainly hope so.” Jenny didn't have to answer. Her eyes said all I needed to know.We had just changed trains in Huntington when I mentioned to Jenny that I thought we should get her a car. She seemed to think about it for a minute then chimed in, “Okay, but not a Honda. Your car is okay, better than okay, but after spending so many years barely getting by I'd like to splurge, get something a little extravagant. Is that okay?”“Of course; we can go out and look as soon as we're back home.” Jenny kissed me then whispered in my ear and I knew I was the luckiest man on the planet. She planned to prove it as soon as we were in our room.I stopped at reception to ask if they had a doctor on staff. Luckily, they did and I asked for an appointment tomorrow morning. I received a phone call fifteen minutes later telling me that Dr. St. Claire would come to my room at 11:30 tomorrow morning and that he wanted to know what the problem was so he could be prepared. “Tell him my arm is in a sling because of a knife wound I received last Saturday night. I want to make sure there's no infection and have the bandages changed.” I was assured that he would receive the message.Jenny had a smile on her face as she led me to the bedroom. She had just removed my shoes and socks when my cell rang. I looked at the screen and wondered, who the hell is Frank Garcia? I answered thinking it might be the doctor. I hadn't been paying much attention to his name. My caller was a detective for the NYPD who wanted to meet with me tomorrow morning, saying he had news regarding my assault and battery case. I suggested he meet us at reception at 8:30 and we'd treat him to breakfast. He nixed the breakfast, but did say he'd accept a cup of coffee. I had just ended the call in time. I could see that Jenny was getting impatient.“You were right, Doug; it was a long day. I enjoyed being with your mother, but the ride back was really boring.”“The Long Island Railroad is strictly a commuter line. There are people who do that very trip five days a week; the price of living in that area, I guess.”“Where did you live when you were working?”“Closer in, much closer in; I lived and worked in Hicksville which is on another line. There are three; North, Central, and South.”“Interesting, but not now; I have my mind on something else.” She almost tore the clothes from my body and a minute later hers followed. “Now, don't forget who's doing the doing.” I just laughed as she gently lowered me to the bed. I lay in the center of the big king bed with my right arm out to the side, exactly as instructed while Jenny showed me just how much she loved me. She rubbed her swimsuit model's body over mine, her nipples moving into my mouth and hand as we kissed and kissed and groped each other unashamedly.I had two fingers in her, my thumb on her hard swollen clit as she stroked me furiously. There was a time in the not so distant past when that was my only means of relief. A lot had changed since Jenny had come into my life. I'd hoped to marry, but never imagined it would be to a goddess like Jenny. It was all I could do to resist pulling her onto my rod, that's how hot I was for her. She must have been clairvoyant because just seconds later she moved up onto my body and rubbed me into her dripping slit. I had closed my eyes, but heard her moan as she slid down until our bodies met.I couldn't help myself; I began to move with her, driving my cock as deeply into her as humanly possible. Jenny was right; it was a very long day and my arm didn't make it any easier. It felt as though I was being stabbed over and over as the day progressed. However, what I was feeling now with my wonderful wife was worth everything I had endured.Let's face it; there are only so many variations for sex. Sure there're oral and anal, although I didn't find the thought of that terribly appealing, and there's genital sex. I'd had plenty of manual sex over the twenty-plus years before meeting Jenny. In spite of the obvious limitations, sex with Jenny was never dull. She had such energy and so much love to share that I was never bored. Tonight was as exciting as ever even though I was exhausted. The pain in my arm had given me a miserable night's sleep. I'd slept through the night, but Jenny had told me I was tossing and turning the entire time.Jenny tried something new on me tonight, flexing her vaginal muscles and squeezing my cock like never before. “Oh God!” I was practically screaming as I came and came again until Jenny covered my mouth with hers. She covered my face with kisses once I had settled down. I could barely speak, but somehow I managed to croak, “You didn't.”“That's not important. You'll get me tomorrow. I know how tired you are. Why don't we get room service? That's something I always wanted to do.”“What about Lady? She has to eat and we have to put her out.”“I can do both. I know it's dark, but I won't go into the park and I'll have Lady with me.” I thought about it for a minute before struggling to get out of bed. “I'll come with you then a quick shower and we can call down for food. How does that sound?” Jenny gave me a sour look, but helped me to get up and dress. I fed Lady and ten minutes later we stood together in the park. Several young toughs walked nearby, but continued past us when Lady growled. One group even recognized Lady from the TV news as they shouted, “Nice going, man,” and other congratulatory remarks. All the same I was pleased when we were safely inside the Plaza's lobby.We ordered steaks, probably the best choice for room service, baked potatoes, and a pitcher of iced tea. It was served on our coffee table as I signed the bill, but gave the server his tip in cash. Jenny and I ate quietly, but a few minutes later she asked, “What do you think the police want?”“Not sure, but I don't think they want to arrest me. If they did the detective wouldn't have phoned. He would have been here waiting for me. He said he has some info on the case so I guess we'll find out in the morning.” Room service sounds romantic, but the food is often cold by the time it's delivered. Tonight it was okay, but it was better than going out. We ate, showered together as we did every night, and climbed into bed, Jenny, as always, on my left side with her head on my chest. I lay back on the pillow and was gone in seconds.CHAPTER 12.There were two men in cheap suits standing in front of reception as we walked up. “Detective Garcia,” I asked.“Dr. Preston, good of you to see us. This is my partner, Tim Rooney.” I shook hands lefty and introduced Jenny. We walked together into the Plaza's food court where we were seated in a booth. Jenny and I ordered breakfast and they ordered coffee even though I invited them to join us.“At these prices I'd be broke in less than a week. What kind of work do you do, Dr. Preston?”“Actually, Det. Rooney; I'm officially retired although I did get an assignment to write a short program last week. That's what I do; write computer programs. I wrote all the programs in the ‘Idiot' series.”“Those are really good. I used one to learn Spanish.”“Yeah, but you still speak with an Irish accent. I can barely understand you.”“What would you know? You were born in Brooklyn; talk about an accent!”Jenny and I laughed. “I suspect life with you two is never dull.”“We have to make jokes when we can,” Det. Garcia explained. “Sometimes our work can be really morbid. Why don't we get to business?” He stopped for a moment to stir some real cream into his coffee. “Mmmm, that's good. Okay, we got the report from the vet on your dog. I'm sure you know it came back clean. We learned that your assailant was high on meth; methamphetamine. He's still in Bellevue in the prison ward and his arm is a mess. The doctors put several screws in it, but they still think he'll have trouble for the rest of his life. Of course, the whole thing was entirely his fault so I doubt that any of us have even a tiny bit of sympathy.“We've spoken to the DA in charge of the case and he'll go to the Grand Jury next week. There's no reason for you to attend or testify, but I can tell you that he's going for attempted murder in addition to assault with a deadly weapon. There'll be some other charges thrown in; there always are. I have your cell number so I can contact you, if necessary.”“Do you think I'll have to testify? And Jenny?”“It's hard to say. It might go to a plea bargain because he has no criminal record. This guy had a great job on Wall Street so he has plenty of money; maybe too much. I assume your suit was ruined. Any idea how much it cost? We'll ask the judge for you to be compensated for your loss.”“Actually, I do know. I had just bought that suit from a tailor in Hong Kong. It cost me $3,000 and the shirt was $250, both of them custom made for me. I'm more concerned with Jenny's dress. She tried to stop the bleeding and it was covered with blood. I gave it to the hotel for cleaning so I expect to get it back today. It was brand new, just bought that day. Do you remember what you paid, Jen?”“Yes, just over $2,000 with tax, unfortunately. I loved that dress.”“Well, if it's ruined we can see about getting a replacement. We can go to the store and ask them to order one just like it.” Jenny responded by leaning over to kiss my cheek. The detectives left a few minutes later, but not before Det. Rooney said, “I wouldn't mind getting a dog like this for my family. Mind telling me what you paid for her.”“I think a shelter pet is more in your future. Lady cost me $65,000.”Garcia laughed like hell as he slid out of the booth. “Tim, get a goldfish and I'll spring for a bowl.”They shook hands with me and left, still laughing.“They seem like good guys, Doug.”“Yeah, they probably are, but I don't envy them their jobs. They see the worst of humanity every single day. We had a neighbor who was a cop when I was growing up. His wife couldn't stand the uncertainty of his going to work and never knowing for sure if he was coming home alive or in a box. She left him and took his three kids. A few months later he took his own life. I can still remember the sound of the shotgun in the middle of the night.” Jenny's eyes showed the shock she was experiencing.We finished breakfast and returned to the suite just in time to see the bellman walking down the hall with her dress. Jenny took it out of the plastic bag, but even I could see that they were unable to remove the bloodstain completely. Jenny was almost in tears when I asked her for the receipt. A minute later I was on the phone with the store. I explained what had happened and, like everyone else in the city, the manager had seen the report on the news. She said she would have to contact the supplier, but would get back to me as soon as possible, probably sometime this afternoon.After ending the call I sat in the easy chair and gazed out the window. “What would you like to do this afternoon? I think we should do some sightseeing. Most of the people who live here have never been to the top of the Empire State Building or taken a cruise around Manhattan. There's also the American Museum of Natural History only a few blocks away or the Central Park Zoo. It's one of the world's best.”“Let's wait until the doctor has examined you. I'm not taking any chances with your health.” And then in what I was sure was her sternest voice, “And neither are you. I'm planning on growing very old with you, having lots of kids and even more grandkids. We'll have other opportunities to sightsee.” Then to show me how serious she was she leaned down to kiss me.It was almost eleven when the maid knocked. Jenny answered the door and the maid said she would return later. “No, come in, please; just take care of the bedroom and bathroom today.” I rose and gave her a ten dollar tip. This was a big suite and I always tipped the maid every day. I didn't think that ten bucks was too much when the suite was running me $5,000 a night.Jenny and I relaxed as we waited for the doctor to arrive. Fortunately, he was a few minutes early. He handed Jenny a card that gave his name as Henri St. Claire, M.D., Internal Medicine, with a Park Avenue address. He explained that he was technically retired, but kept his hand in by working when needed for the hotel. Taking note of my sling he asked me to remove it so he could examine the wound.“Ah, I see the doctor inserted a drain,” he said once he had peeled the bandage away from my skin. “That was an excellent idea. These days these kids who think they're practicing medicine don't take the time or effort to do things right. It will take only a few minutes to remove it.” Digging into his bag he removed several paper towels and dropped a long thin flexible tube that he pulled from the wound into them, dropping the mess into a waste basket. Then, using his nose, he sniffed all around the stitches before nodding with satisfaction.“Had there been an infection there would be an odor of mortification, of the decaying pus created by the body fighting off the bacteria. That's the biggest concern with a knife wound. I'll bandage it again for you and all you'll have to do is see your own physician in another week to remove the stitches. Do you need any additional pain medication?”“No, I still have some and I prefer not to use them. They make me woozy and I can't stand it. What about this sling? Do I have to use it?”“I think you might wear it for another few days until you get home again. The city is crowded and you could be jostled.” I was dejected by that, but Jenny was elated. She was going to take care of me even if it killed me. Dr. St. Claire was with me about twenty minutes and left, telling me that his charges of $250 would be added to my hotel bill. I thanked him as he strode out the door.“See; I told you to wear that sling.”“I give up; you win.” I was a bit dejected until Jenny carefully replaced my arm into the sling then wrapped her hands around my head and kissed me deeply. The kiss went on and on until she broke it, asking if we could still make it to the zoo. I got my backpack from the closet and put Lady's bowl into it even though I knew there were places for dogs to drink where we were going.It was still morning so I suggested we go up to the Bronx. “We have plenty of time so why don't we go to the Bronx Zoo. It's bigger and; I think; better than the one in Central Park.” Jenny agreed, saying that she would defer to me since I had much more experience here than she did.Once out on the street we crossed over Central Park South so Lady could take care of business then we walked a few blocks east until we reached the subway station for the 5 train. Using my credit card I bought a Metro Card with six trips on it, paying for Lady even though I knew she would be entitled to a free passage. The trip north took less than thirty minutes. We walked up onto East Tremont Avenue very close to the Asia Gate of the Bronx Zoo. I knew this area well; it was where my father had often brought me years ago before I learned that he was a serial cheater.Jenny and I had a ball. She loved the zoo and many of the children asked if they could pet Lady. The highlight of the day came when we accidentally stumbled onto feeding time for the tigers. The trainer dropped a huge slab of what I assumed was horsemeat into an empty cage. It was on the left of three in a row. He lifted and dropped a door that led outside from the center cage. About three minutes later a tiger; a BIG tiger walked in and turned toward the meat. Once he was in a door we hadn't noticed before dropped between the two cages, sealing that one away. Next the trainer dropped another slab into the cage on the far right. The door outside dropped a few more times and an even bigger tiger walked in, moving immediately toward the meat. Soon that cage was isolated, leaving only the center cage empty. The process was repeated, but everyone present gasped when this tiger walked through the door. It looked to be twice the size of the first.“Excuse me, sir,” I asked as I approached him while we exited. “Do you know how much that tiger weighs? I don't think I've ever seen a cat that big before.”“You're probably right. He's the biggest one I've ever seen, too. He was weighed a few months ago, 619 pounds. Did you know that the tiger is the largest cat, followed by the lion and the jaguar third? They're all capable of being man eaters, but the tiger is the worst, by far.” Jenny and I thanked him and went on our way, eager to see what was next in line down the path.We finished around five and left through the same Asia Gate to the subway. Jenny was confused when we walked onto the platform for the number 2 train. “Doug, didn't we take the 5 train this morning?”“Yeah, we did, but this one will bring us closer to our restaurant. We're going to the Carnegie Deli for dinner. I think you'll like it.” Walking up to the street level at 59th West meant that we were about four blocks from the deli. Blocks in Manhattan were about three times as long going east and west as they were going north and south. Even at this hour with the sidewalks crowded with workers on their way home, the trip only took us twenty minutes.We were given a table by the window. I ordered without even looking at the menu. “We'll split a Zorba and a hot pastrami sandwich, two cream sodas, and can we get some water for my dog?”The waitress had just left when Jenny whispered, “Doug, splitting a salad and a sandwich? Are you sure?”I leaned across the table to kiss her. “Trust me. You'll have more than enough to eat and we'll definitely want to save room for dessert.” I had just placed Lady's bowl on the floor by the edge of the table when the waitress returned with two tall glasses filled with ice and the light amber cream soda along with two with water that she told me were at room temperature. Those she poured into Lady's bowl. Lady looked to Jenny for permission to drink, receiving it just as the waitress returned with a huge Greek salad and two bowls.I made an attempt to toss the salad and spooned a healthy portion into Jenny's bowl. There was still some left over when I had filled mine. We had just finished when our sandwich appeared. “Thought I'd better bring another plate for you. Good luck,” she said with a chuckle. Jenny looked at the sandwich with her mouth open. It was easily eight inches tall with lean pastrami piled high between two thin slices of rye bread.Using two hands I removed one half and passed the other to Je

In this episode, Elaine, Jeremy, Josh, and Colette discuss the Netflix docu-series 'Homicide New York' and focus on the Carnegie Deli Massacre. They provide details about the crime, including the victims and the events leading up to the murders. The conversation highlights the senselessness of the crime and the impact it had on the survivors. The hosts also discuss the lack of remorse shown by the perpetrators and the lasting trauma experienced by the survivors. They express their disbelief at the extreme violence over a robbery and the tragic loss of innocent lives.TakeawaysThe Carnegie Deli Massacre was a senseless crime that resulted in the deaths of three people and the injury of two others.The crime was motivated by robbery, but the perpetrators showed no remorse for their actions.The survivors of the massacre experienced lasting trauma and struggled with survivor's guilt.The crime highlights the dangers of drug dealing and the potential for violence in criminal activities.The case was relatively straightforward, with the perpetrators being identified through witness testimony and surveillance footage.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Netflix Docu-series 'Homicide New York'06:35 Details of the Crime and the Victims12:17 The Lack of Remorse from the Perpetrators24:07 The Lasting Trauma and Survivor's Guilt28:11 Closing Remarks and Preview of the Next Episode

It was Thursday, May 10, 2001 around 7:30 when the call came in to 911 operators in Manhattan, New York asking for help. 5 people had been shot in an apartment on the 6th floor above Carnegie Deli in Midtown Manhattan. All were shot in the back of the head while lying facedown on the ground, their hands duct taped behind their backs. This looked like an execution. But miraculously, two victims would survive the attack, and the story they had for police was shocking. Sponsors: Prose! Get 50% off your first subscription and FREE consultation at Prose.com/creepers EarnIn Download EarnIn today in the Google Play or Apple App Store! ● When you download the EarnIn app type in creepers under PODCAST when you sign up Sources: Show: Homicide: New York What Homicide: New York Left Out About the Carnegie Deli Case | Den of Geek Suspect in Murders Above Deli Says He Lied in Police Tape - The New York Times Ganja Woman - The Village Voice A Fading Actress, a Pile of Drugs and 3 Slayings - The New York Times Jurors get crime scene details in Carnegie Deli murder case New Jersey Parolee Is Arrested in Killings of 3 Above Carnegie Deli - The New York Times 2 Convicted In Carnegie Deli Killings - CBS News ‘GOD, I'M BLEEDING' – CARNEGIE VICTIM'S 911 CALL CHILLS MASSACRE JURY Survivors' Call for Help Is Heard In Killings Over Carnegie Deli - The New York Times What is a Medicolegal Death Investigator/Technician? Dirty Dancing Actress Shot Execution Style in 2001 Carnegie Deli Murders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In her apartment above the famous Carnegie Deli in midtown Manhattan, an upscale weed dealer named Jennifer Stahl is about to get two visitors. Over the course of six minutes, the two men will commit a crime that will traumatize the city for weeks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Alexandra Hoffmann, the founder and CEO of Crisis Ally, has many years of working in the corporate world to help leaders learn how better to manage and deal with crises they and their organizations face. She says that she began thinking about dealing with crisis management as a child. Not that she faced unusual or horrible crisis situations, but the concept peaked her interest from an early age.   Growing up in France Alexandra wanted to be a police officer. As is required in France, she studied the law and obtained her LLB in criminal law from Parris University. She went on to secure two Master's degrees, one in corporate security and also one in business administration. Clearly she has a well-rounded knowledge that she decided to put to use in the world of managing crisis situation.   Our discussions range in this episode from topics surrounding September 11, 2001 to how and why people react as they do to crisis situations. Alexandra has many relevant and thought provoking observations I believe we all will find interesting. On top of everything else, she has a husband and two small children who keep her spare time occupied.     About the Guest:   Alexandra Hoffmann is the CEO of Crisis Ally, which helps Crisis Leaders and their teams build the right capabilities to thrive through crises. Crisis Ally serves clients internationally. Thanks to a career with the French government and large international corporations, Alexandra has a rich operational and multicultural experience with strong expertise in Business Resilience, its boosting factors, and best practices to manage it.   Alexandra is regularly interviewed in the print media to discuss corporate resilience topics, including Authority Magazine, Business Insider, and Thrive Global. She also writes for ASIS Security Management Magazine and the Crisis Response Journal and regularly presents at events.   Over the course of her career, Alexandra has served in a couple of NGOs as a volunteer, such as the American Red Cross and the French Red Cross.    Alexandra has an LLB in Criminal Law from Paris University, France, an M.Sc. in Corporate Security from John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, and an MBA from the University of Phoenix. Alexandra is also a Certified Coach, trained in Neurosciences, and a Certified Yoga Teacher. Last but not least, Alexandra is a mom of two!     Ways to connect with Alexandra: Website: https://www.crisisally.com/ LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahoffmann/     About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.     Transcription Notes      Michael Hingson ** 00:00   Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, good morning, it is morning here where I am. Welcome to unstoppable mindset. Today, we get to chat with Alexandra Hoffmann, who is the founder and CEO of Crisis Ally. And I am no stranger to crises, as many of you know, having been in the World Trade Center on September 11. And so I'm really anxious to hear what Alexandra has to say and to just chat about crises and whatever else comes along. She's also a mom. And that could be a crisis and of itself. And I bet she has stories about that. So we get to listen to all of that, and hopefully learn some things and just have a little bit of fun today. So Alexandra, welcome to unstoppable mindset. Thank   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 02:03 you very much, Michael, for having me with you today. I'm really honored and very excited as   Michael Hingson ** 02:08 well. Now you are located where I'm   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 02:11 actually located in France, I'm French.   Michael Hingson ** 02:15 So right now it's what time where you are,   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 02:19 it is almost 6pm My time.   Michael Hingson ** 02:22 So you're eight hours ahead of us, or actually nine hours ahead of us because it is almost 9am here where I am. So that's okay. It makes life fun. Well, we're really glad that you're here. Why don't we start by maybe you telling us a little bit about kind of the early Alexandria growing up and all that kind of stuff.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 02:46 All right.   Michael Hingson ** 02:47 That kind of stuff makes it pretty general, doesn't it?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 02:49 Super General? And shall I start?   Michael Hingson ** 02:53 Wherever you wish at the beginning?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 02:55 All right. All right. So I was born and grew up in Paris for until I my 20s I would say so. Nothing, I would say nothing exciting around that rights. And it started getting really exciting, at least for me when I started traveling around the world, after finishing my master's degree in law back in France. And I had an opportunity to start traveling to Asia, especially more specifically Vietnam, and then Hong Kong. And that really triggered a whole different life for myself, to discover the world to learn about new cultures to learn about a new job, which actually led me to where I am today. 25 years later. So so that's it for me in a in a really, really small nutshell. And apart from that I'm really part of a family with an older sister younger brother, and yeah, we had a pretty happy life. So everything went smoothly. For for me when I was when I was young, I want to say   Michael Hingson ** 04:09 no, no major crises or anything like that, huh? We   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 04:13 had some, like, you know, like every family I want to say and but yeah, I mean, my my sister got sick when we were young and that triggered a major crisis I wanted maybe that's, you know, that started planting, planting a seed at the time, about crisis management and willing the will to care for others and to, to care for for the human beings I want to say. But yeah, I mean, apart from that we had a very regular life,   Michael Hingson ** 04:52 I want to say so you have two children. How old are they?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 04:55 I have a six year old boy and a three year old girl Oh,   Michael Hingson ** 05:00 oh, probably great ages and the crises will start when they start dating.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 05:07 Yeah, I mean, we've had prices as well, since they were born. But very, very normal prices. I'm gonna say nothing critical. Yeah, very new prices.   Michael Hingson ** 05:16 There's a husband to go along with all of that. Yes, there is one.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 05:20 We have our prices as well. So yeah, I mean, that's life, right. It's downs. And that's, that's part of the journey. Right?   Michael Hingson ** 05:33 It is. Well, so tell me about the the travels, you said you traveled to Asia and so on? What prompted that? Going to Asia and other places. So   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 05:42 I actually went to, to the US as well. And what prompted me to travel there is really the fact that I'm actually having a crisis because my kids want to watch in the room right now, which is completely unexpected. So my husband saved the day. But let's see for how long. So so no, I started traveling to Asia, because I, you know, I had this opportunity and then move to the US right after 911. Okay, because I wanted to start studying in corporate security. And I knew that there was a college back in New York, who is actually specialized in this. So I really wanted to take this opportunity, especially after 911 to really go there and and dive into this topic and really get get the knowledge, I want to I don't want to say the expertise at that point, right, because it was really early in my career, but at least learn as much as I could about this topic to then start my career in corporate security. Back in Asia was more mostly focused on law, on law and work, basically, because I was originally a law students, right, so but really, what triggered me to travel to the US was really to study corporate security. And originally, you have to know that I wanted to I studied law back in France, because I wanted to be a police officer. And in France, when you want to become a police officer, you have to go through law school, basically, it's it's mandatory. I know, it's very different than the US. So but my mind changed when I started traveling. And I realized I wanted to discover the world and speak English all the time. And, and there are new things and discover new cultures, basically.   Michael Hingson ** 07:39 Yeah. And you know what, that's interesting. I've talked to a number of people who said the same sorts of things when they got to travel or when they wanted to travel. They very much enjoyed learning about new cultures and different kinds of environments and different kinds of people. And I know, even around the United States, and I've had the honor of doing that. And I've traveled to a number of countries, overseas, and so on as well. It is always fun to learn about new people and who they are and where they are and what they do and why they're the way they are. And it certainly is not up to me to to judge one kind of people as opposed to someone else. Everyone's customs are different. And that's what makes it so much fun, isn't it? Yeah,   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 08:22 then I I couldn't agree more. And I, I need diversity. That's, that's, you know, that's how I feed myself. My soul, I want to say, right. So that's why meeting those diverse cultures and people is is a requirement for myself.   Michael Hingson ** 08:41 Outside of France, what's the favorite place that you've been to that you really liked? Or do you have one? New York? Definitely.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 08:49 Yeah, definitely.   Michael Hingson ** 08:50 Definitely. New York.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 08:52 I spent enough years there to fall in love with it. And yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 08:57 yeah. There's nothing like New York. Yeah, you're you're absolutely right. I mean, there are other places that are so much fun as well. But there's nothing like New York, it's a great place to be in a great place to go. And it really is a city that is Frank Sinatra sings in the song, it doesn't sleep, because there's always something going on. And I remember for a while when I lived back in the area, or when I would travel there, places like the Carnegie Deli, which unfortunately closed which I'm sad about. But we're open to like four in the, in the morning. And then they opened again at six or 630. But they were they were open most of the time and other places there and always activity, which is just kind of cool. And one of the things I really liked about New York, and I don't know how much it's changed in the last, well, 20 years since well, 19 years since we moved, you could order any food or anything to be delivered, which for me was very convenient even being in the World Trade Center because I could order from some of the local delis and not necessarily have to go down and they would bring You showed up, which was great. Yeah.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 10:02 No, it's, it's it's Yeah. I mean, I have so many memories there. And it's there is no place like that. I can't say that I would live there again, especially with young kids, right, right now, but it's, yeah, it's New York is part of the now it's been part of me for many, many years.   Michael Hingson ** 10:25 It's definitely an interesting and wonderful place to go. And I can very well understand why it's a favorite place of yours. And it's one of my favorite places as well. If we had to move back to that area, we lived in Westfield, New Jersey, my wife and I did and it was a better place to live for us, because my wife being in a wheelchair also needed a more accessible house than we would typically find. In New York City. She has now passed on, she did last November. But we've talked several times that if we ever had to go back that she'd rather live in the city, it's a lot more convenient, it's a lot more accessible. And there's just so much not only to do but so many conveniences to get her whatever she would need. It's pretty cool.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 11:11 Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's everything is practical there. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 11:17 Well, I think that's really pretty cool. So for you, you, so you've been involved in the law and corporate security. And I can see where those two concepts actually blend together, I assume that that you would agree that they they really can dovetail upon each other in some ways, and knowing about the law, and then dealing with security and so on, is is something that that you have a lot of background to be able to address.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 11:48 It's especially because I studied criminal law, right? So we're not supposed to I mean, we're not meant to chase criminals within the corporate environment, right. But it is connected in a way, especially from a value standpoint, I would say. Also the mindset. And we do have some times to conduct investigations, and also the fact that we have to constantly prepare for disruptive events, but also respond to those disruptive events. It's, it's highly connected, it's a very different job, but it's very connected. Let's put it this way. Yeah. So   Michael Hingson ** 12:26 in terms of dealing with crises, and so on, and we've joked a little bit about it earlier, but he but in all seriousness, what are some things that lead you to really being interested in, in wanting to work in the arena of crisis management, whether crises of your own that you've had to face? Or just what kinds of things shape your experience to want to do this? It's   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 12:51 I that's what I was telling you. That's the reason why I was telling you the beginning, maybe my childhood planted a seed on this, you know, with my sister getting sick and, and us having to adjust? I don't know, I, you know, I don't know for sure. But I know that 911 was definitely an event that triggered me to say I want to help serve corporate sector, the corporate sector, to help protecting the people working for the corporate sector, right. So that when a disruptive event happens, nine elevens or anything else, you know, professionals are there to assist them and make sure that everything is done to the best of our capabilities, basically, to protect and serve that within those private organization.   Michael Hingson ** 13:45 Tell me a little bit about your thoughts concerning September 11. And what what you observed in terms of what was successful and maybe not so successful about managing that crisis? Oh, wow. I know, that's a pretty open ended question. But it's, it's a fascinating one, I would think to talk about it   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 14:06 is a fascinating one. Well, for one thing, it's it, you know, it was a long time ago, I must say that, unlike you, I was not in New York at the time, right. I was actually sitting in Hong Kong, but when it happened, and I think it was basically, I don't know what word to use, actually, you know, by seeing what what happening and not understanding how we could not see this coming right. At the same time. I've read a few things since including one book that I always recommend my clients or anyone who's in my workshops or conferences to read, which is called the Ostrich Paradox. And it's a book that talks About, among other things, 911 and that explain that a lot of cognitive biases went into the process of risk management at the time when it comes to preparing for those disruptive events. Right. So, I think I mean, from what experts are saying, I think one of the big thing is that cognitive biases played a huge, huge role in this lack of preparation, I want to say and I mean, it's not like a preparation is it's in this event, I want to say, right, but at the same time, when you have planes landing at the top of building, you know, there's nothing that not much you can do to prevent the building from collapsing. Right. But so, yeah, it's a it's a difficult question. I want to say,   Michael Hingson ** 15:52 yeah, it is. And it's a it's a challenge. When you say cognitive bias, what do you mean by that?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 16:00 Yeah. So when, as risk managers and as humans, okay, that's what the the so the, the, the Ostrich Paradox covers this area, in talks about six cognitive biases, which are humans, okay? It's everyone has those cognitive biases as risk managers, the author's highlight those six cognitive biases, alright. And some of them or the myopia bias, it means which is we are not meant our brain is not meant to, to see far ahead in the future. The thing is, when we manage risk, we are supposed to for to foresee the future. So we have to go against against this cognitive bias to evaluate risks. So when you think of 911, that's one of the biases that went into play. But this specific bias, okay, myopia, go, go happens in many, many other situations, right. Another thing is the bias of amnesia, we forget. So there were other situations where the World Trade Center had been attacked, as we know, right. And yet, you know, what I'm saying,   Michael Hingson ** 17:16 I do this,   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 17:17 this is human, our brain is not meant. Our brain is just meant, meant to focus on the now and here. And here. And now. That's it, because he wants to, it wants to make sure that we are that our life is not at stake, basically, and that we can survive. And then we can take care of for close family, let's say children, if we do have children, or at least partners, right? So apart from that our human or brain is not has not been built, to explore so far in the future and so far in the past. So when we analyze risks, that's something to really take into consideration and just mentioning two of those cognitive biases, right? But there's also the hurting effects, right? It's not going to happen, think about COVID. Think about the war in Ukraine, it's the same, it's not going to happen. Something like this cannot happen. At the time, everyone thought that was just that could have just happened in a Hollywood movie. Right? It's so this book is really, really interesting to the Ostrich Paradox. It's very insightful. And you can talk about we can talk about natural disasters as well, you know, the Fukushima event, all those events, you know? How have been tell me Sorry? No, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no, all those events, if we didn't, didn't have this cognitive biases built in, right, could have been handled differently, or seen differently, but we are who we are anywhere around the world, right? So we have to, to, to, to, to be aware about those cognitive biases. And I think that's the most important one. And in my work, I try to make my clients aware of these as much as possible, because it's these are really, really important in what we do. But   Michael Hingson ** 19:18 is that really the way we're wired? Or is that a learned behavior? In other words, it seems to me I've heard so many times throughout the years that people do have the ability to do what if? And that the that's in a sense, what makes us different from dogs or other animals that, that we do have the ability to do what if? But I'm wondering if it's really so much our brain is wired not to, since it's a concept that all of us talk about and some people swear by? Or is it a learned behavior that we learn not to think that way? From what   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 19:58 I know because I'm not a neuroscience? It's so, okay. Don't Don't quote me on this. That's okay. From what I've learned, from what I've learned. Studies, scientific studies show that it's actually the brain the way our brain functions. Okay? Now, there is actually one bias that's called confirmation bias. Okay? The confirmation bias is that say, I'm telling you want to think about something red, okay? And when you're gonna start looking around, everything's gonna be red, all of a sudden, you're gonna start talking about a subject, like, let's say we talk about confirmation bias, or any cognitive biases, for what we afford for what we say, Okay? I can bet anything that in the next coming days, you're going to hear more or Yeah, hear more about cognitive biases as well, because you're going to be much your brain will be much more attentive to those signals basically. So in a way, yes, it is trained behavior. But at the same time, this is also how your brain is wired, to be more attentive to signals, the heat that it that it that it recognizes basically, right, right.   Michael Hingson ** 21:12 The the problem I see, and this isn't disagreeing with you, because I think it reaffirms, what you say is that at the same time, we think that soap September 11 happened, it'll never happen again. Or we maybe hope it won't happen again. And I think that we do become a little bit more attentive and attuned to trying to look for the signs, because so much of our world now talks about it that we're in a sense, forced to think about it regularly. And so we do. Also, I think, without getting into politics, we have any number of people who are supposed to know better, who say, well, it won't happen again. And, and so we don't have to worry about that kind of thing. Or they go overboard the other way, of course, it'll happen again. And we completely have to isolate ourselves from the rest of the world, otherwise, we're going to be victims again. And in all of those cases, what it seems to me is that in reality, September 11, occurred, there are probably a lot of good reasons. Well, a lot of reasons why it occurred. We as a society didn't choose to understand some people, as well as perhaps we should have. I'm not convinced having read the September 11 report that with all of the information, we would have been able to predict and stop September 11, from happening, because I just don't think the information was there. That's one thing that the bad guys did very well. And the bad guys aren't a religion. The bad guys are a bunch of thugs who acted in the name of religion. But nevertheless, they they did what they did. And I think that, that what, what we also try to do is to put things out of our minds. I had a customer in New York, around the time of September 11. And we had been talking with them about it was a law firm about purchasing tape backup systems to keep all of their data backed up and stored in they would store it off site, September 11 happened and I happened to call the customer the next week, to see how they were doing. And they were had been town Manhattan, so they weren't directly affected by the World Trade Center. But the person that I had been working with said, Well, my boss said, we're not needing to buy any backup systems now, because September 11 happened, so it'll never happen again. So we don't have to backup their data, which is really crazy on one side, and on the other side, short sighted because you shouldn't do it for the reason of whether or not the World Trade Center happened or didn't happen. You should do it to protect your data.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 24:02 That's myopia. That's also optimism. Optimism is also a cognitive bias. They meant the author's mentioned in the book, The Ostrich Paradox, that we, we want to think we want to hope for the best. So without getting into politics. I think one of the big bias that comes into play is this. Because no one wants another 911 shoots you know, no one wants a COVID prices. No one wants the war in Ukraine, at least normal people, right.   Michael Hingson ** 24:36 People don't there are some there were not normal. No, no, what no one wants   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 24:40 that, you know, 1000s of people dying and things and no one wants, right. So I think I want to I want to hope maybe that's my own optimism bias talking but I want to hope that that's the case for most politics, right. It's they They just have they simply have this optimism bias plus the enormous workload that they have to deal with, right? So you combine everything the cognitive biases plus the workload, and that's a recipe for disaster. I have plenty of examples in France, of disruptive situation that happens with people's lives at stake. And, you know, it's just the workload of intelligence services was so much that every the, the, the intelligence was basically at the bottom of the pile and no one saw it or paid attention to it. It's, it's a lot of things, basically, it's a lot of things.   Michael Hingson ** 25:40 It's interesting, we, over here, have been keeping up to at least to some degree, with the issue in France about raising the retirement age that McCrone wants to do what he wants to raise her from 62 to 64, as I understand it, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but over here, the minimum retirement age is 65. And they they've talked about an even social security over here, has changed his rule slightly. But it, it's a little bit difficult to understand the vehemence that people are displaying, raising the retirement age from 62 to 64. Over there, and then there must be some solid reasons for it. But nevertheless, that's, I gotta believe, a major crisis that y'all are dealing with over there. It's it's,   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 26:31 you know, it's complicated. And I'm not, it's, the thing is, I'm also a business owner. So retirement is not really a topic in my mind, I   Michael Hingson ** 26:46 understand. Right.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 26:50 And I come from a family, business owners as well. So culturally, I was not really raised in an environment where we would just focus on when we're going to stop working. My dad was a really hard working men. And so I think I am too, I have no plan of work of stopping working, basically, because I love what I'm doing. And I may adjust as I'm growing old, and you know, but as long as I'm healthy, I'm fine. And I'm giving you this response. Because there's a big gap in the French, in French society, between people like myself, I want to say, because I have I want to say, the service job, basically, where I'm only using my brain to do my work, right. I'm not using my body. So my body's not being I want to say worn down over the years. But I think a lot of the complaints are coming from people working for companies and industries, where, you know, they have to actually use their body every day to carry heavy things around to work all night to care for children to care for elderly. And obviously doing this until a certain age is getting more and more difficult, right. So I think that's where the gap come from, in all I knew that's where the gap comes from. In France, it's that this part of the population, and rightfully, I want to say wants to be able to start early enough, when their body is not completely broken. Basically, that's where the if I want to summarize,   Michael Hingson ** 28:39 right, and I figured as much that that would be the reason that most people would would take right or wrong. That's the feeling.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 28:49 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So things have calmed down now. But we have other things we have in France, we have disruptive events on a regular basis. I don't know if you saw what happened this past couple of weeks, with the demonstrations at nine going on not demonstrations, the the How to see with the youth being really, really angry because there was a murder of a young kid. Yes. Yeah. So, riots. So that's the word I wasn't I wasn't looking for sorry. So there we've had very, very violent riots over the past couple of weeks. It's it's complicated, very societal, very complex, societal subjects, very complex subjects.   Michael Hingson ** 29:42 Is that still going on?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 29:44 I don't know how it's come down. It's gone down. Yeah. Yeah. You   Michael Hingson ** 29:49 know, if I can just go to an off the wall kind of thing. We've had our share over here of riots for one reason or another and And we've had our share of, of that kind of crisis. And so one thing I have never understood personally, and it's just me, I think, or at least I'm going to say it's, it's my mind anyway, is I understand why people may be very upset and why they riot. Why do they go around looting and breaking into stores and offices and other things and stealing things and damaging things that oftentimes don't even have anything to do with the subject of what they're writing about?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 30:29 Yeah, I I know. I know. And yeah, I I disagree. I wholeheartedly disagree with that way of demonstrating basically, all heartedly just disagree with that. I mean, we can't we can't be angry, like you said, and they had every I mean, people had every right to be angry with the situation, but as far as the damaging people's goods and and life projects and and life savings for many, many of them. I yeah, I that makes me angry.   Michael Hingson ** 31:12 Does anyone have an explanation for why that kind of behavior takes place?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 31:18 I guess they will have to put it on someone. Right?   Michael Hingson ** 31:21 I guess so. Yeah. Yeah,   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 31:24 I get they have to, you know, when we're, when we're really No, when I'm really angry, which is, which doesn't happen every day, obviously. Unfortunately. Yes. If I'm not conscious of what's going on, I can have a tendency of, you know, looking for someone who's responsible, but me, right. But   Michael Hingson ** 31:42 me is exactly right. You know, we never look at what could we do? Or what could we have done? Yeah. And there's not always a good answer that says that there's a lot we could have done. Take over here. The thing that we saw a few years ago, the George Floyd murders, the George Floyd murder, you know, most of us were not in a position to do anything about that. I suppose some people could have attacked or forced that officer to leave George Floyd alone and not kneel on his throat for nine minutes. And some of the officers should have done that. I don't know whether they have any guilt for not doing that. But still, there was so much that happened after that, that really ended up being not related directly to it, like damage and looting and all that. That is so frustrating. And it seems to happen all the time. And I've never understood that kind of behavior. And I could be angry and frustrated. But still, it's it's strange that that kind of thing goes on and makes the crisis worse. Yeah.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 32:48 And I think it's, I mean, whether it's for the George Floyd crisis, or what happened in France couple of weeks ago, I think it's just communities being really tired of that level of, you know, if you really high level of frustration that's been going on for years and years and years, for many reasons, justified or not justified, right. But I know that in France, we have a community of people who is who are actually is really frustrated about what's going on, you know, built this gap building and building and building day after day, between the rich and the poor, between who can have access to everything and who can not have access to everything. Yes, we have a free health system in France. But and free school, and you know, if I summarize, it's never completely 100% free, but it's, you know, it's nothing compared to what you guys have in the US. Okay, just put some perspective here. But at the same time, yeah, there's still so many things which are not fair in the system itself. There's still a huge lack of diversity in the way we approach a lot of topics. And yeah, it's, it's like, like I said, it's, these are really complex matters. That's why it's hard to pull to just pose a judgement on everything, right? It's really easy when we, when we see things like this to watch the news and say, Oh, my God, he's wrong or she's wrong or whatever. Well, I agree. It's, yeah, it's I think it leaves a lot of football thoughts and when I bring it back to myself, right, to say, okay, what can I do? The one thing I tell myself is okay, what can I do to raise my kids properly? And what can I do to serve? You know, my, my fellow human beings and my my friends and my clients, and the best way I can to promote a different energy really So that's really what I tried to do. That's really what I tried to do. Because of course, like you said, most of us cannot have much impact on such events, right. But I really think that if a lot of us put a lot of positive and a different energy out there, we'll see different things happening as well.   Michael Hingson ** 35:24 You talk a lot about diversity. So I gather that you and and from your own experiences, you talk about it, I gather that you believe that diversity and experiencing diversity is an extremely valuable thing to do. And it leads to, hopefully, better grounding people and making them more resilient. Is that does that kind of sum it up?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 35:49 Yeah, but also more resilient. But more than that, much more open minded, much more open minded, because I think a lot of the frustration that may come from anyone you know, is about neglect. The fact that we don't know when we don't know when we don't understand something. So when we don't understand something, we're scared of it right, we can get scared of it really easily.   36:13 We're whereas Yeah, go ahead.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 36:15 Whereas when we try to face diversity, embrace diversity, and learn about diversity, asking questions and trying to understand others perspectives and points of view and ways of thinking, the opens up completely new worlds.   Michael Hingson ** 36:35 And that's why. And that's why I said what I did earlier about September 11, and are not understanding people. We could go back and look at history and the way we dealt with Iran. Many years before September 11, and before even the revolution, and so on. And we as I think over here, a people viewed it as being so far out of our sphere of knowledge and somewhat influenced that it was really irrelevant. And that's the problem that we don't tend to learn. And I think that goes back to something you said that a lot of people don't learn to necessarily take a wider view of, of things.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 37:22 And that's why that's why diversity is such a big topic and what I want in my life, basically right, and especially since though, since I've become the business owner, because I need to be challenged constantly to make sure that when I'm thinking, you know, being a business owner is very lonely, right? So, because you have no one I mean, I have a team, but they're not here to tell me what to do. Right? I'm supposed to lead, right? And so I'm actually looking for teams, where who can actually challenge what I'm thinking, what I'm asking what I'm saying what I'm doing, not constantly, but on a regular basis. Right. And also, with my close family, I'm actually being asked them, I'm actually asking them to challenge me on a regular basis to regarding my decisions. And all of this because we are blind, right? It's super easy to have blind spots all the time because of those cognitive biases because of our own fears, because of many, many, many psychological things that go on in our brain. So that's why I'm a huge, huge advocate of diversity.   Michael Hingson ** 38:33 What do you think makes a good leader, whether it's crisis or whatever? You've talked about leadership a lot? What what do you think are the qualities or traits for a good leader?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 38:45 There are, there are many that I could start listing. But if I had one, if I had to pick one category, that would be, as we say, in French, and several heads, which is being right is to know how to be knowing what to do is, is the easy part, I want to say especially as we build on experience, and as we grow older, and so on and so forth. I'm not saying that those decisions are always easy. But, you know, as far as being it's much more complex. And I think that's the most fascinating piece of leadership. Because it's about us, it's about us interacting with others. It's much more complex, because every single human being is unique. So even if we have an experience with certain kinds of people, it's going to be always going to be different with other other other people we encounter. Right? So focusing on being on top of doing is I think one of the biggest skills and responsibility a leader has   Michael Hingson ** 39:59 Yeah, I, I hear what you're saying. I also think that knowing what to do is a very difficult thing. And I think one of the good skills that any good leader has, is going back to what you said, also allowing people to whether you want to use the word challenge or state their own opinions, because they may know something about what to do in a particular situation that is even better than what you know. And a good leader has to be able to recognize that and look at all aspects. And I know when I was leading sales forces, one of the things that I told every salesperson I ever hired was, I'm your boss, but I'm not here to boss you around. I'm here to add value to what you do to help you be more successful. So we need to learn to work together. And I think that is such an important thing that many people who are in positions of authority never really understand.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 41:07 I completely agree with you, Michael. And I want to add to what I said before what you just said that when I talked about being it's being humble, among other things, being humble, but I didn't want to summarize leadership to humility, right? So it's being humble, it's being a good communicator, it's being able to interact with different cultures with different ways of thinking with it's also being able to admit, responsibility to admit mistakes to to celebrate, right. So it's all of this together. So that when decisions need to be made, it becomes easier and smoother. It's not going to be perfect. Okay, yeah, I always say that is there is no such thing as perfect, even especially in when we talk about dealing with crisis. Because that's also I think one of the biggest caveats of a lot of reading materials I see is that we think it's, it's, there's an end, there's an end to to it, right? And I think it's there is no such thing, it's always a journey. It's always a learning journey for every leader have read about or discussed with or met in person, no matter, right? It's always a learning curve. Sometimes we have up sometimes we have downs. And sometimes we succeed, sometimes we mess up. So that's why and what so that's why one of the things I really put forth is the fact that it's a journey. It's it's not a it's not the end. And   Michael Hingson ** 42:45 I think the times when perhaps someone messes up are the best times because those are the times that drive home the point something to learn here, even though there's something to learn, even when you're extremely successful, how can you maybe do it better, but we tend to focus on the mess up times more. And that's, that's fine. But still, it's not that we're a failure, it's that we need to learn and grow from it. And I suppose that get back to picking on politicians, I'm not sure they, they do a great job of that. But nevertheless, it's what any good leader should really do. And I think that it's a crucial thing. As you said, it's a journey, which is, which is really important. When did you form crisis ally.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 43:33 So I formed it at the end of 2018. At first, it was Alexandra Hoffman consulting, and it became crisis ally in 2020, during COVID, because when COVID Had I changed everything, the strategy, the business model, everything. And I also changed the the identity and I really didn't want the company to be about me. I want it to be about what we do and how we can serve our clients basically.   44:05 Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 44:08 You know, in the pandemic, the difference between the pandemic and the World Trade Center is that the pandemic, whether a lot of us necessarily recognized as much as we could have or should have, is it more directly affected everyone than the World Trade Center? Yes, the world shut down for a few days after September 11, especially the financial markets and so on. And yes, it was something that was an issue for most all of us. And I think it's true to say that the world stopped, but then it started again. And with the pandemic, we went through a different kind of situation that affected so many people. And I think a lot of us maybe didn't think it through as well as we could have. And I hope it doesn't happen again. But I'm not sure that that's the case. I know that in this country. We have an I've been reading over the last couple of days that deaths associated with the pandemic have brought the whole picture back down to, we're experiencing the amount of deaths we normally do. Even pre pandemic. So for the world, perhaps the pandemic is over. Maybe, or at least this one is over, but I guess we'll see.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 45:26 But, yeah, like it's, it's, it's hard to predict such things. I'm actually more concerned about natural disasters, if you want to, if you want my, my take on this one, much more concerned, because that's also easy. It's a confirmation bias, now that we see 911. Now, now that we've seen the pandemic, now, everyone is focused on this same with cyber attacks, basically, right. Everyone is focused on those because we've experienced them. I think we ought to be extremely cautious with natural disasters and what nature has in store for us because yeah, between the heat waves, and we had some major wildfires just a year ago, we're where I live. I know you've had your share as well. Canada has had its share recently as well, it's it's so professionally speaking from a risk perspective, natural disasters, I think are high on my list. And   Michael Hingson ** 46:28 of course, the the and I, I agree with you the course of the question is, what can we do about it? And, again, I think, for me, I think it starts with getting back to dealing with some of the cognitive biases, and to recognize we have to deal a little bit with what if we may not be able to predict a particular national natural disaster, but we certainly can be more aware and make some preparations and be   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 47:01 less surprised? Absolutely. Because Surprise, surprise, is what takes a toll on everyone. You know, surprise what, especially bad surprises, right like that. So being more aware of these, and like you said, like, like you said, and, and being less surprised by those events, it's much less traumatizing, much less traumatizing. It's much easier to cope right away, and to make decisions instantly, rather than just, you know, freezing. Here   Michael Hingson ** 47:32 in the United States. And I'm sure elsewhere, we hear a lot about earthquakes. And Dr. Lucy Jones, here in Southern California, and others talk about predicting earthquakes or seeing earthquakes before they reach us. And now they're talking about maybe 10 to 62nd warning, which people will tell that's not very much. But that's incredible compared to the way it used to be. And if we continue to encourage the science, we'll probably find other things that will help give us more warnings. I know in Iceland, they're actually learning how to do a better job of predicting volcanic eruptions. And they're doing a really an incredible job. And like with anything, it's very expensive. Right now, the technology is a little bit challenging. But if we encourage the science, it will improve.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 48:33 That's interesting, because that's one of the takeaways from the Ostrich Paradox book that's mentioned about Fukushima, one of the experts scientists had said, If we invest in this technology, we'll have what we need to be prepared for such an event, because it was very expensive at the time, they said no to it. Yeah. And then Fukushima happens.   Michael Hingson ** 48:53 And then Fukushima happened and Fukushima wasn't good.   48:57 They couldn't perceive the the tidal wave.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 49:03 Now, that's not what I want to say they couldn't perceive the risk as being high enough. The the measure the impact has been big, but the probability was so low for them was like, Okay, we're not going to invest millions or whatever, right, for something that has a super low probability from happening.   Michael Hingson ** 49:23 And then it didn't. Yeah. Which is, of course, the issue. I was at Fukushima, oh, no more than a year after it happened. And, but I hear exactly what you're saying. And we need to recognize that things do occur and that we have to learn to address them. And again, it gets back to this whole idea of what if and the reality is, I think, there there are people who have a gift of learning to deal with what if, and we ought to honor and recognize that more than we do. core, some of them are not really dealing with what if, what if they're making things up? But there are people who do what if and who do it very well. And a lot of the scientists are specifically trying to address that kind of issue. Well, what if this happens? And what's the theory behind this? And? And how can it change? And we just don't address science nearly as much as it should.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 50:24 And I want to add, from where I am, I have been working with the corporate sector 22 years now. I've never, I've never met a scientist to talk about risks like this. So this is also something to understand. There's so many silos that we ought to break, eventually, when we talk about, you know, managing responding to disruptive events, yeah. Because communities don't need in some communities would need to meet to increase the level of awareness on so many things. Like we're talking about risk science and scientific studies and knowledge. Right? Right. Of course, I'm curious enough. So I go on google now or any other platform to learn as much as I can. But when you sit, you know, put yourself in chief security officers choose or chief risk officer shoes. Yeah, has no time to do such thing. Right. And the thing is, because we're used to think in a silo, I've never attended any team meeting, where we've invited over a scientist to talk about, I don't know, the risk of AI, the risk of natural disasters, the risk of cyber the risk of anything. Never. Why is that? I don't know. Because it's, it's a, I think it's just we don't think about it. And by just discussing it with you, I realize that's a huge gap. I've actually started bridging that, you know, with my putting my small stone to this, to this siloed world, I've actually started seeing this acknowledging this between universities and the corporate world. So I started teaching to universities, at universities, sorry, okay, too, because I realized that there were so many things I wasn't taught back at university, and I wished I had known before earlier in my career. So things could have been, I would want to say, easier, right? For myself or my teams. So I'm like, Okay, let's go to university and teach students what I've learned along the way to bridge that gap. But that's not that's not so common. That's not quite so common. And by just discussing with you, I realized that we, we don't talk to the scientific community   Michael Hingson ** 52:51 in area and work on an   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 52:53 area to work on unless you know, people I know people who have PhDs and degrees like this. And of course, they they are part of the scientific community. But that I mean, having a PhD is not being a scientist right to so. So yeah, you get my point. Because I don't want to hurt anyone's, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.   Michael Hingson ** 53:14 I do know, I hear what you're saying. What's an example of where Crisis Ally has really made a difference in what a company does?   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 53:24 So I think what we try to do, each time we serve a client is really to make at least the teams who are supposed to work in this on the on these topics on these critical topics more resilient, more agile, and more adaptable to more sustainable, I want to say, right? ie we don't want people to crash. We want to be able we want people to be able to sustain protracted emergencies, protracted situation, right. So that's how we, we want to make a difference with the client we serve. And it's really about aligning the people behind one vision and one mission. So that's what we do when we serve clients. I have one specific example in mind, where there was a we were working with a team and there were there were a lot of misalignment around the mission, the vision around security, crisis management, business continuity, all those resilience related topics, right risk management as well. And we helped we helped the team align on these topics basically. So which I think will have some positive impact on the company as a whole.   Michael Hingson ** 54:52 So for you looking ahead, what do you think is the most exciting thing about the future for crisis ally and what you're doing and where you're headed.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 55:03 The most exciting things that we're growing, I mean, revenue is growing. So that's really, really exciting. And it's growing really, really a lot. So it's, you know, I'm trying to plan for that, and foresee well how to handle what's coming, basically. And so I'm trying to envision new new partnerships, I want to say and also maybe hiring people for the for the company. So that's, that's something I'm thinking about for 2020 2420 25, you know, because it's really, it's really growing now.   Michael Hingson ** 55:46 And that's exciting. And there's gonna be room for what you do for a long time. Have you written any books or any other online kinds of things? Not yet, have it done? With the Astrid.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 56:01 I've written articles, but I mean, really writing a book, I, you know, it takes time. And I haven't decided I haven't decided have decided not to put my energy on this. At this point in my life. That's fair.   Michael Hingson ** 56:16 So you have two children to worry about. And then their crisis right now is that they didn't need to come in the room. So you know, is that leadership probably? Well, I want to figure out a way in the future to continue this, this is fun. And I would love to chat with you more. We've been doing this for a while now. And I don't want people to get too tired of us. But I think that's a fun discussion and one that we ought to continue in the future. Whenever you're, you're willing to do it. But if people want to reach out to you and learn about Crisis Ally and so on. So the best   56:51 way for people to reach me is on LinkedIn. Michael, like you found me on that we found each other on LinkedIn. I'm all the time I'm on LinkedIn all the time. It's, I also have my website, my company's website, which is www dot crisisally.com. But what's your   Michael Hingson ** 57:08 LinkedIn name? That people can Alexandra Hoffmann.com H O F F M A N N? Yeah,   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 57:13 I have to bring it to carry my daughter right now. You don't see her Michael, but she's asking for my arms. But   Michael Hingson ** 57:22 nothing wrong with having a daughter around. I close my door, so my cat wouldn't come in and yell at me. Well, I want to thank you very much for being here. This has absolutely been delightful. And I do want to do it again. And I hope all of you found this interesting. What's your daughter's name? Amber, Emeril, Amber, and Amber. Yes, sir. Hello. Yeah.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 57:46 She got here with the headphones. So that's true. Well tell her how she left. She got bored. She got bored. Looking at the screen.   Michael Hingson ** 57:52 She's done now. Yeah. Well, thank you for being here. And I hope all of you enjoyed this, please. We'd love to hear from you. We'd love your thoughts. Please reach out to me and give me your your opinions and your views on all of this. And anything else that you'd like to say, You can reach me at Michaelhi M i c h a e l h i at accessibe  A c c e s s i b e.com. Or go to Michael Hingson m i c h a e l h i n g s o n.com/podcast. I hope wherever you're listening that you will at least please give us a five star rating and write a good review. We really appreciate your your positive and all of your comments. And and I hope that you'll do that. So that we can we can hear from you and Alexandra, if you or any of you listening out there might know of someone else who ought to be a guest on unstoppable mindset, please let us know we want to hear from you. We would love your suggestions and your recommendations. We value them and we will talk with anyone who wants to come on. So once more. Alexandra, thank you very much for being here. I've really enjoyed it. I hope all of our listeners have. And I want to just express my appreciation to you for being here.   Alexandra Hoffmann ** 59:05 Thank you very, very much Michael for the discussion. It was very interesting. And I must say you caught me off guard of guard with a couple of questions. But that was also a very interesting just for that. And thank you very much for for having me on today and for listening.   Michael Hingson ** 59:25 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. While you're on the site., please use the form there to recommend people who we ought to interview in upcoming editions of the show. 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Over the more than 200 years of its existence, the US has become home to a number of iconic sites that domestic and international travelers alike place at the top of their must-see lists. The classic memorials and museums circling Washington, DC spring to mind, of course, because of their importance to both the history and future of our country, but other cities outside our capital possess an immediate connection with a building or structure: for instance, San Francisco's graceful and majestic Golden Gate Bridge, the futuristic and awe-inspiring Space Needle in Seattle, the formidable and photogenic bronze lions guarding the entrance to Chicago's famed Art Institute. America's largest metropolis, New York City, is famous for, among other things: the Statue of Liberty, whose promise of freedom welcomed millions of immigrants to America's shores; the legendary sports and performances at Madison Square Garden; and the delicious, titanic corned beef sandwiches and knishes at the Carnegie Deli. But one building alone symbolizes the strength, beauty, and spirit of New York.

Support the podkitchen on patreon! patreon.com/braisedbits 00:00-00:30- Jesse reads an ad for the Ferbie Kentucky Derby. 00:30- 4:15 - The chefs fully submerge Ibaka into episode seventy five by addressing the on going cooler controversy and podnemesis Eric Seidell. 4:15- 6:35 - Jesse receives support for his beach cooler protocol from pro baseball player and Lances brother Nolan Arenado. 6:35-7:22 - The chefs discuss what it means to Susan Broil. 7:22- 8:46 - Keith Hernandez reaches out to Lance thanking him for shouting out her performance at Carnegie Deli. 9:04- 12:07- Jesses highlight of the week was a beautiful Sunday Christopher walken. 12:07- 25:15- Lances highlight had him having a full day of cool running, going to a diner and performing on a private show in East Mike Hampton. 25:15- 1:07:50- The chefs list their top nine foods that are in between snack and meals. 1:07:50- 1:14:54 - Lance throws an oliver twist and shout into this weeks top nine predictions. 1:15:54-1:16:20 - The chefs promote the patreonardo dicaprio. 1:16:20- 1:21:25 - Jesses QAB had him bombing on a show due to larger grouper fish dominating the vibes and energy of the room.  1:21:25-1:32:56 - Lances QAB had him dealing with a hit and run debacle on his derek carr before his road gig. 1:32:56- 1:34:04 - The chefs bring in the closer and promote upcoming shows and the pod.

Comedian Judy Gold's email signature reads "Sent while thinking about my next meal"...but what about her last meal?! A stand-up comic for nearly 40 years, Judy won two Emmy's for writing and producing The Rosie O'Donnell Show, has countless TV acting credits and, the highest honor of all, a bagel sandwich named after her at New York City's famous, and now defunct, Carnegie Deli. When describing her last meal, Judy speaks passionately, occasionally emitting a guttural moan of pleasure at the mere thought of one of her favorite foods. She craves a procession of comforting and sentimental dishes she grew up eating in her mother's New Jersey kitchen. Judy was raised kosher, but as an adult she's slowly welcomed forbidden foods like shellfish and bacon onto her plate. To properly explain kosher law, host Rachel Belle welcomes Rabbi Menachen Genack to the show. He's the CEO of OU Kosher, the world's oldest and largest kosher certification agency, responsible for giving products like Heinz Ketchup and Coca Cola the official kosher stamp of approval.   Listen to Judy Gold's podcast KILL ME NOW -- Rachel Belle is her latest guest! If you're looking for yet another reason to cook during quarantine, join the Your Last Meal Quarantine Cooking Club on Rachel's Instagram page! Each week we all cook a dish inspired by the last meal of a past guest. Week One we made spaghetti and marinara inspired by fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi, week two was mac & cheese, the last meal of "Little Women" director Greta Gerwig & celebrity librarian Nancy Pearl. What's cooking this week? Follow along on Instagram!

This was originally posted on Patreon-  figuring everyone may run out of podcasts this week during quarantine- so just an extra post to share of what happened over there.  In 2001, Jennifer Stahl, one of the dancers featured in Dirty Dancing was killed along with several friends in her apartment above Carnegie Deli.  https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/12/nyregion/a-fading-actress-a-pile-of-drugs-and-3-slayings.html

Jason Neman is the CEO and Partner of Good Brand Company, an agency focused on Branding, Interactive & Design. You can see their work at GoodBrandCompany.com . Jason discusses what it's like to own your own agency and to be in the industry for over 26 years. He also discusses the process of working with clients to develop the perfect visual and how Good Brand Company hires the talent to bring these ideas to life. You'll hear about one of Jason's favorite promotional pieces that he has ever received and a great story about a meal at Carnegie Deli in NYC where a joke was taken a little too seriously.

The Carnegie Deli Massacre sometimes dubbed the Dirty Dancing Murders because one of the victims was Jennifer Stahl, Actress in Dirty Dancing who had a role as a dancer, when her acting career dried up she began singing and selling high grade marijuana in her apartment above the Carnegie Deli, one night in 2001 , she had friends over, she was robbed and her friends shot execution style, listen for all the details here. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/daisy-hudson/message

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Comedian, actor and TV personality Howie Mandel returns to the podcast and weighs in on a host of fascinating (and timely) subjects, including free speech, political incorrectness, social media's impact on comedy and the connection between obsessive behavior and performing. Also, comic John Mendoza sits in, Edward G. Robinson gets paid, Gilbert invades the Carnegie Deli and Howie teams with screen legends Blake Edwards and Melvin Frank. PLUS: Norman Lloyd! "The Big Sick"! Johnny Carson hosts a game show! Screech heads to the hoosegow! And Howie tries to save the "Just for Laughs" festival! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bienvenidos a nuestro episodio piloto de Comida En Serie, el spin off gastronómico de Repaso en Serie , en donde Javi y Julio , hemos decido dar rienda suelta a otro de nuestros placeres favoritos que es la ir de restaurantes a comer bien y os deseamos contar de manera desenfadada nuestras experiencias , cada programa tendrá una temática y para este primero hemos decidido hablaros de restaurantes que tengan que ver con Películas y Series de Televisión , aprovechando que este Podcast es spin off de Repaso en Serie , nuestro podcast de dicha temática. Estos son los sitios que os hablamos - The Carnegie Deli http://carnegiedeli.com/) 854 7th Avenue at 55th Street ,Nueva York - Bubba Gump Shrimp Co.(http://www.bubbagump.com/) 1501 Broadway ,Nueva York - Junior´s (https://www.juniorscheesecake.com/) 386 Flatbush Avenue EXT ,Brooklyn, New York 11201 - Grimaldi´s (http://www.grimaldis.com/) 1 Front St, Underneath bridge, Brooklyn, NY 11201-1389 - Cheers (https://cheersboston.com/) 84 Beacon Street o Faneuil Hall Marketplace Quincy Market, Boston, Massachusetts Otros sitios que os hemos hablado PJ Clarke´s (http://pjclarkes.com/) ,915 3rd Ave, At 55th Street, Nueva York Joe's American Bar & Grill (http://www.joesamerican.com/) , 181 Newbury St Boston, MA 02116. Puedes suscribirte a Comida en Serie en iVoox / RSS para no perderte ningún episodio y puedes ver todos los programas web: https://comidaenserie.wordpress.com/ mandarnos correo a comidaenserie@gmail.com y/o seguirnos en twitter en @comidaenserie

Bienvenidos a nuestro episodio piloto de Comida En Serie, el spin off gastronómico de Repaso en Serie , en donde Javi y Julio , hemos decido dar rienda suelta a otro de nuestros placeres favoritos que es la ir de restaurantes a comer bien y os deseamos contar de manera desenfadada nuestras experiencias , cada programa tendrá una temática y para este primero hemos decidido hablaros de restaurantes que tengan que ver con Películas y Series de Televisión , aprovechando que este Podcast es spin off de Repaso en Serie , nuestro podcast de dicha temática. Estos son los sitios que os hablamos - The Carnegie Deli http://carnegiedeli.com/) 854 7th Avenue at 55th Street ,Nueva York - Bubba Gump Shrimp Co.(http://www.bubbagump.com/) 1501 Broadway ,Nueva York - Junior´s (https://www.juniorscheesecake.com/) 386 Flatbush Avenue EXT ,Brooklyn, New York 11201 - Grimaldi´s (http://www.grimaldis.com/) 1 Front St, Underneath bridge, Brooklyn, NY 11201-1389 - Cheers (https://cheersboston.com/) 84 Beacon Street o Faneuil Hall Marketplace Quincy Market, Boston, Massachusetts Otros sitios que os hemos hablado PJ Clarke´s (http://pjclarkes.com/) ,915 3rd Ave, At 55th Street, Nueva York Joe's American Bar & Grill (http://www.joesamerican.com/) , 181 Newbury St Boston, MA 02116. Puedes suscribirte a Comida en Serie en iVoox / RSS para no perderte ningún episodio y puedes ver todos los programas web: https://comidaenserie.wordpress.com/ mandarnos correo a comidaenserie@gmail.com y/o seguirnos en twitter en @comidaenserie

We get comedian Robert Fones to drop by the Magnodome after a recent trip to New York City to talk lumbernerds, pizza by the slice, and horror movies on this special Halloween episode

My boyfriend and I spoke in person with executive chef Chris Zabita at his NYC market to table restaurant Society Cafe a couple weeks ago. We talked about everything from picky eaters to cooking for yourself as a chef to the competitive nature of the restaurant industry.  Since moving to New York I’ve been recording most of my interviews in-person and I’m loving it because it allows way more intimacy than Skype can, hopefully you can feel that and it's a welcome change to the show. I’ve also been exploring the plethora of restaurants in the city Cafe Society being one of them. This interview was a blast to record and I hope you enjoy eavesdropping on this candid conversation.  Chef Chris gave us a look into what it is like to be a chef, how he feels about popular foodie trends, how he feels about picky eaters modifying his dishes, and much more. -Society Cafe's Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter-Chef Chris's Instagram-We talk about the Union Square farmers market and other green markets across NYC-Some of his favorite dishes he makes is vegan chicharrones made from beet, mushroom, and carrot-New dishes he is making that he loves right now: Flatbread Croque Madame, Tomato Salad, Salmon, Market Salad, Deep Fried Hummus & Roasted Carrots-Check out Nix vegetarian restaurant in NYC -Cooking shows we mention: Chef’s Table & Rocco Dispirito , Chopped-Other places Chris has been a chef at: Marc Forgione (Tribeca), Victoria And Alberts (Grand Floridian Resort Disney)-If you are into carbonated water we mention the soda stream-For those that listen to Nick at the end talk about pastrami we mention Carnegie Deli & Lobster Press Cool Things to Check-Out:-Join me THIS SUNDAY, July 16, 2017 for a Self Care Sunday with Franklin & Whitman in Philly-The Good Fest will be in L.A. on Feb. 3rd, 2018 !! Get $10 off with the code "KATIEDALEBOUT"-Sign-up for my newsletter to get updates on where I'll be and what I'm loving!-Join the listener Facebook Group-Get my book Let It Out: A Journey Through Journaling or leave a review if you have read it. — Show Sponsors —Freshbooks If you are a freelancer, business owner, or have a small business on the side you know how hard it can be to keep on top of business finances. I know, and that is why I integrate the best tools out there that allow me to spend my time on doing what I do best, into my business. Freshbooks is one of those go-to tools. With FreshBooks you can easily send clients professional customized invoices, easily keep track of business expenses, get paid faster, and more. FreshBooks has now been totally redesigned from the ground up and custom built for exactly the way you work. It is the simplest way to be more productive, organized, and most importantly get paid for the important work you do in the world.Get a 30 day, unrestricted free trial by going to www.FreshBooks.com/LetItOut ​and entering "LET IT OUT" ​in the “How Did You Hear About Us?” section.  Nudu Skin Care ProductsI'm super excited to have one of my favorite new skincare products as a sponsor for the pod!  Nudu's products are 100% natural and honestly have been a life saver for my skin in the past couple months. They have products based on your skin type (so it's not a one size fits all) and I've been loving the small bottles which I carry with me when I travel. No matter where I go I can treat my skin to a mini-facial each day.  I highly recommend giving the products a try + in addition to the discount below they have a 60 day money back guarantee!Use the code "LETITOUT" at checkout for 20% off any order.  

Australian blogger and forager Rohan Anderson makes sneaky eel dip and payback paella; Adam Gopnik reminisces about New York City’s Carnegie Deli; Abraham Conlon of Chicago’s Fat Rice reveals the home cooking of Macau; and we present our recipe for pistachio-cardamom loaf cake.

What's better than a snow day? Maybe an armistice. Plus a tribute to the late Carnegie Deli, where they would have served creamed herring. If only it were Jewish food. And Larry talks about Meryl Streep and Sophie's Choice on Magic Movie Moment. http://LarryMillerShow.com Quote of the week: "No one goes against me in weather wishes." Producer: Colonel Jeff Fox

We have the latest on Obamacare and how the Democrats plan on keeping it in place. On the heels of Carnegie Deli closing, another New York City mainstay is closing and blaming it on the city. And we have a Trending Today roundtable. Guests: Ellen Ratner, Jason Wert, Ken Jenkins, Tom Hinchey, Hal Nunn, Tim Burg, Floyd Brown. Trending Today USA Hour 1 Segment 2 010917Image credit: Ververidis Vasilis / Shutterstock.com

As the Carnegie Deli— an institution synonymous with New York and Jewish culture— comes to a close, we take a look at the history behind delis' emergence and thoughts on the end of its eight decade run. Producers: Henry O'Reilly, Isabel Naturman, Rose Fox, Amani Orr Music: archive.org Photo: Pixabay

As the Carnegie Deli— an institution synonymous with New York and Jewish culture— comes to a close, we take a look at the history behind delis' emergence and thoughts on the end of its eight decade run. Producers: Henry O'Reilly, Isabel Naturman, Rose Fox, Amani Orr Music: archive.org Photo: Pixabay

Today on All in the Industry, Shari Bayer is joined by Becky Tehrani, the co-founder of TechTable. Shari and Becky talk about their experience at last week's TechTable Summit.

WELCOME TO AMCPRESS AND CO We are the #1 disabled satirical news program  in the world (67,000 and Counting) that provides uncensored news on numerous topics worldwide.  On Tonight's episode: We ransack the Disney Corporation and the fact that they want to obtain Twitter. Then we discuss how a company is getting props for hiring someone who is on the spectrum. Our last topic of the night is deals with the closing of The Carnegie Deli and the impact this will have on New York City.  We are now on ITUNES. Subscribe to us through there.  Want to connect with us? Seek us out on facebook under AMCPRESS&CO, We are also gaining new correspondents. fancy being one? We know you want too, if you do: Tweet us, Message us on Facebook you will get a response. Also did we mention, we're doing a bit of renovating to the website? in the meantime you can find us at: www.amcpress.wordpress.com. We are aiming to be listener supported, we have a PATERON! where you can donate to us for as little as $1.00.  https://www.patreon.com/AMCPRESSANDCO. unds. etc) is protected by Fair Use. Beginning theme song is composed by Redhood & Alison and is owned by AMCPress&Co Digital Entertainment. All rights Reserved.©  No copyright infringement intended**

Chow down with Lynne Hansen and Jeff Strand at the Carnegie Deli for a chat about how the horror supercouple came together after the 1995 World Horror Convention,  why she's moved on from novels to movies while he's gone in exactly the opposite direction, what writers must keep in mind when creating YA horror, how she's turning one of his novellas into a  full-length movie titled Cold Dead Hands,  and much more.

On this week's episode of Food Talk with Mike Colameco, Mike kicks things off with a phone call to Dwight Furrow, a philosophy professor and author writing on the aesthetics of food and wine. After the break, he is joined in the studio by Ryan Sutton, chief food critic for Eater NY, to talk Jewish delis, David Chang's late night offerings, smoking eels, and more.

The President proves again that he is a poor negotiator as he plans a trip to Cuba, Hillary Clinton barks like a dog, John Kasich is giving away hugs on the campaign trail, the Carnegie Deli reopens and a conversation with Alan Rubin from Alec Bradley Cigars.

We are back after a week of illness and what not and we are back in Nashville. Andy takes us for some Award winning pulled pork BBQ at Peg Leg Porker. Then he thoroughly enjoys his breakfast Biscuit Love where this episode gets its name. David takes the wife on a whirlwind trip to NEW YORK CITY (Where people know what salasa is made from). They tried the Carnegie Deli but they didn't have their act together so they went to Benash Deli and had some huge sandwiches and later had some Street dogs that cost a fortune. And And And It's DAVID'S BIRTHDAY (well it was yesterday when we recorded this.) And be sure and listen to David and I explain to his mom who Five Finger Death Punch is. Enjoy!

Josh and Adam really carpe the diem this week: they find the holy grail, ask out Diane Cort and fake orgasms at the Carnegie Deli — all on the hottest day of the year in Bed-Stuy. Get a Sacred Cow review of Tim Burton's BATMAN, plus the Top 5 Films of 1989. 0:00-3:02 - Billboard / Donations 3:02-35:28 - Sacred Cow: "Batman" (1989) Replacements, "I'll Be You" 36:32-47:24 - Notes / Massacre Theatre 47:24-1:06:04 - Top 5: Movies of 1989 Replacements, "Achin' To Be" 1:06:58-1:34:37 - Top 5: Movies of 1989 cont. 1:34:37-1:40:41 - Close MUSIC - The Replacements NOTES - MT winner: Rachael Lee UPCOMING - Filmspotting #500 Live LINKS - 15 Reasons Burton's Batman Is Better... - Why Burton's Batman is still the best - Josh on "Batman" - MUCH ADO at Illinois Shakespeare (code FILM) PARTNERS - Backstory Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Andrew & Molly talk about Michelin stars, drama at Carnegie Deli, and an update on the Gasthof's disaster. Plus, more on the Chowdown Countdown!

Welcome to episode #143 of Six Pixels Of Separation - The Twist Image Podcast. This is also episode #3 of Media Hacks. It was recorded live over some of the biggest sandwiches I have ever seen at the Carnegie Deli in New York City. You'll get to hear from Chris Brogan, Hugh McGuire, Julien Smith and more. We're ranting, raving and panting all over media, publishing and books. Note: some of the language is not work safe. Enjoy the conversation... Here it is: Six Pixels Of Separation - The Twist Image Podcast - Episode #143 - Host: Mitch Joel. Running time: 45:11. Audio comment line - please send in a comment and add your voice to the audio community: +1 206-666-6056. Please send in questions, comments, suggestions - mitch@twistimage.com. Hello from Beautiful New York City. Subscribe over at iTunes. Please visit and leave comments on the Blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on twitter. Facebook Group - Six Pixels of Separation Podcast Society. In a perfect world, connect with me, directly, through Facebook. The Road to Six Pixels of Separation - The Book - coming soon. Media Hacks Podcast #3. Live from the Carnegie Deli in New York City. What makes World of Warcraft Not A Book? Chris Brogan - Co-author of Trust Agents. Hugh McGuire - LibriVox - The Book Oven. Julien Smith - In Over Your Head - Co-author of Trust Agents. Not killing themselves with pastrami this week: C.C. Chapman - Managing The Gray - Advance Guard. Christopher S. Penn - The Financial Aid Podcast - Marketing Over Coffee. O'Reilly Tools of Change Conference. Social Media Week NYC. Jeff Pulver - SocComm. Jeff Jarvis - Buzzmachine - What Would Google Do? The Digitalist - Sara Lloyd. Amazon Kindle 2. Everything Bad Is Good For You - Steven Berlin Johnson. Radian6 - Amber Naslund - @ambercadabra - Director of Community. BookCamp Toronto - June 6th, 2009 - MaRS Discovery District. Podsafe Music Network: New Leaf - 'Magic Carpet'. Please join the conversation by sending in questions, feedback and ways to improve Six Pixels Of Separation. Please let me know what you think or leave an audio comment at: +1 206-666-6056. Download the Podcast here: Six Pixels Of Separation - The Twist Image Podcast - Episode #143 - Host: Mitch Joel. Tags: advertising amazon kindle 2 amber naslund blog blogging book oven bookcamp toronto buzzmachine cc chapman chris brogan christopher s penn digital marketing everything bad is good for you facebook facebook group financial aid podcast hugh mcguire in over your head itunes jeff jarvis jeff pulver julien smith librivox managing the gray marketing marketing over coffee media hacks new leaf new york city online social network oreilly podcamp podcast podcasting podsafe music network radian6 sarah lloyd six pixels of separation soccomm social media marketing social media week nyc steven berlin johnson the digitalist tools of change conference twist image twitter web 20 what would google do wikipedia