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Jason Chapin is the son of Harry Chapin, one of the greatest recording artists of the 1970's with two of the biggest and most memorable hits of all time: Taxi and 1974's monumental hit Cat's in the Cradle. Harry Chapin tragically died in 1981 in an auto accident in Long Island, NY. On the 50th anniversary of Cat's in the Cradle's hitting the charts as #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 for the week of December 21, 1974, Jason co-produced an award-winning documentary, Harry Chapin - Cat's In the Cradle: The Song that Changed Our Lives. Included in the film are musical giants like Billy Joel, Judy Collins, Pat Benatar, Dee Snider, Mandy Patinkin & others who weigh in on Harry's legacy. These iconic lyrics from the chorus are among the most famous from any song in history: And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon Little Boy Blue and the man in the moon "When you comin' home, dad?" "I don't know when, but we'll get together then You know we'll have a good time then." We discuss: -Why now with a documentary in the 50th anniversary of the song. -Who was the child that arrived? -How did Harry steal the song from his wife? -What do you suppose your mom Sandy Chapin meant by “We don't know life's lessons until too late?” - Which part of the 60% in Taxi that is true is actually true? -Judy Colins - "Harry had lyrically the human touch. Genius of putting scenes together that happened in real life." -Billy Joel - "It was all about humanity. Not politics, but what it's like to be a human & the foibles & failure & struggles."
If you're lucky enough to get old, think of all you've gained. First off, you're alive, which is better than the alternative 100% of the time. Secondly, you can use all of the wisdom and knowledge you've collected over a lifetime of experiences, and you can use it to find ways for you and others around you to be happy. In this already ridiculous year of 2026, we're working hard to stay positive, and music is almost always the key. Thankfully our good friend Dustin Prince feels the same way, and was more than up for helping us count down our favorite songs about that touchy but important subject. Picks 10-6 are revealed here in Top Ten Songs About Aging Part 1 of 2. Go see Dustin playing around Los Angeles with the Kevin West Band!https://kevinwestmusic.com/We've lowered our prices, but not our standards over at the ATTT Patreon! Those who are kindly contributing $2 a month are receiving an exclusive monthly Emergency Pod episode featuring our favorite guests and utilizing our patent-pending improv format in which we miraculously pull a playlist out of thin air. On January 1st we gave you double the Wolffings with cousins Chris and Justin helping out in Emergency Pod 23. Find out more at https://www.patreon.com/c/alltimetoptenWe're having a blast chatting about music over on the ATTT Facebook Group. Join us and start a conversation about music!https://www.facebook.com/groups/940749894391295
Purpose, trust and laughter matter. SUMMARY Dr. Heather Wilson '82, former secretary of the U.S. Air Force, and Gen. Dave Goldfein '83, former chief of staff of the Air Force, highlight the human side of leadership — honoring family, listening actively and using humility and humor to build strong teams. Their book, Get Back Up: Lessons in Servant Leadership, challenges leaders to serve first and lead with character. SHARE THIS PODCAST LINKEDIN | FACEBOOK TOP 10 LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE Leadership Is a Gift and a Burden – Leaders are entrusted with the well-being and development of others, but that privilege entails tough, sometimes lonely, responsibilities. Servant Leadership – True leadership is about enabling and supporting those you lead, not seeking personal advancement or recognition. Influence and Teamwork – Lasting change comes from pairing authority with influence and working collaboratively; no leader succeeds alone. Embrace Failure and Own Mistakes – Effective leaders accept institutional and personal failures and use them as learning and teaching moments. Family Matters – Great leaders recognize the significance of family (their own and their team's) and demonstrate respect and flexibility for personal commitments. Be Data-Driven and Strategic – Borrow frameworks that suit the mission, be clear about goals, and regularly follow up to ensure progress. Listening Is Active – Truly listening, then responding openly and honestly—even when you can't “fix” everything—builds trust and respect. Humility and Curiosity – Never stop learning or questioning; continual self-improvement is a hallmark of strong leaders. Celebrate and Share Credit – Spread praise to those working behind the scenes; leadership is not about personal glory, but lifting others. Resilience and Leading by Example – “Getting back up” after setbacks inspires teams; how a leader recovers can motivate others to do the same. CHAPTERS 0:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 0:00:21 - Guest Backgrounds and Family Legacies 0:02:57 - Inspiration for Writing the Book 0:05:00 - Defining Servant Leadership 0:07:46 - Role Models and Personal Examples CONNECT WITH THE LONG BLUE LINE PODCAST NETWORK TEAM Ted Robertson | Producer and Editor: Ted.Robertson@USAFA.org Send your feedback or nominate a guest: socialmedia@usafa.org Ryan Hall | Director: Ryan.Hall@USAFA.org Bryan Grossman | Copy Editor: Bryan.Grossman@USAFA.org Wyatt Hornsby | Executive Producer: Wyatt.Hornsby@USAFA.org ALL PAST LBL EPISODES | ALL LBLPN PRODUCTIONS AVAILABLE ON ALL MAJOR PODCAST PLATFORMS FULL TRANSCRIPT SPEAKERS Host: Lt. Col. (Ret.) Naviere Walkewicz '99 Guests: Dr. Heather Wilson '82, former Secretary of the U.S. Air Force, and former Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. (Ret.) Dave Goldfein '83 Naviere Walkewicz 0:09 Welcome to Focus on Leadership, our accelerated leadership series. I'm your host, Naviere Walkewicz, Class of '99. I'm honored to welcome two exceptional leaders whose careers and friendship have helped shape the modern Air Force, while inspiring thousands to serve with purpose and courage. Our guests today are Dr. Heather Wilson, USAFA Class of '82, the 24th secretary of the Air Force, now president at the University of Texas El Paso. And Gen. Dave Goldfein, Class of '83, the 21st chief of staff of the Air Force. Both are United States Air Force Academy distinguished graduates. Together, they've written Get Back Up: Lessons in Servant Leadership, a powerful reflection on resilience, humility and the courage to lead to adversity. And our conversation today will dive deeply into the lessons they learned at the highest levels of command and in public service, and what it means to serve others first. Thank you for being here. Gen. Dave Goldfein 1:08 Thank you for having us. Naviere Walkewicz 1:09 Absolutely. This is truly an honor. And I mentioned that I read this incredible book, and I'm so excited for us to jump into it, but before we do, I think it's really important for people to know you more than the secretary and the chief. I mean chief, so Gen. Goldfein, you came from an Air Force family. Your dad was a colonel, and ma'am, your grandpa was a civil aviator, but you really didn't have any other military ties. Dr. Heather Wilson 1:29 Well, my grandfather was one of the first pilots in the RAF in World War I, then came to America, and in World War II, flew for his new country in the Civil Air Patrol. My dad enlisted by that a high school and was a crew chief between the end of the Second World War and the start of Korea, and then he went back home and became a commercial aviator and a mechanic. Naviere Walkewicz 1:52 I love that. So your lines run deep. So maybe you can share more and let our listeners get to know you more personally. What would you like to share in this introduction of Gen. Goldfein and Dr. Wilson? Gen. Dave Goldfein 2:02 Well, I'll just tell you that if you know much about Air Force culture you know we all get call signs, right. Nicknames, right? I got a new one the day I retired, and you get to use it. It's JD, which stands for “Just Dave.” Naviere Walkewicz 2:17 Just Dave! Yes, sir. JD. I will do my best for that to roll off my tongue. Yes, sir. Gen. Dave Goldfein 2:25 And I will just say congratulations to you for your two sons who are currently at the Academy. How cool is that? Naviere Walkewicz 2:31 Thank you. We come from a Long Blue Line family. My dad was a grad, my uncle, my brother and sister, my two boys. So if I get my third son, he'll be class of 2037, so, we'll see. We've got some time. Gen. Dave Goldfein 2:41 We have grandchildren. Matter of fact, our book is dedicated to grandchildren and they don't know it yet, but at least on my side, they're Class of 2040 and 2043 at the Air Force Academy. Naviere Walkewicz 2:52 OK, so my youngest will be cadre for them. Excellent. Excellent. Dr. Heather Wilson 2:57 And my oldest granddaughter is 4, so I think we'll wait a little bit and see what she wants to do. Naviere Walkewicz 3:04 Yes, ma'am. All right. Well, let's jump in. You just mentioned that you wrote the book primarily for your film book. Is that correct? Gen. Dave Goldfein 3:09 Yes. Naviere Walkewicz 3:10 How did you decide to do this now together? Because you both have incredible stories. Dr. Heather Wilson 3:14 Well, two years ago, we were actually up in Montana with Barbara and Craig Barrett, who — Barbara succeeded me as secretary of the Air Force. And our families, all six of us are quite close, and we were up there, and Dave was telling stories, and I said, “You know, you need to write some of these down.” And we talked about it a little bit, and he had tried to work with another co-author at one time and it just didn't work out really well. And I said, “Well, what if we do it together, and we focus it on young airmen, on lessons learned in leadership. And the other truth is, we were so tired of reading leadership books by Navy SEALs, you know, and so can we do something together? It turned out to be actually more work than I thought it would be for either of us, but it was also more fun. Naviere Walkewicz 3:59 How long did it take you from start to finish? Dr. Heather Wilson 4:02 Two years. Naviere Walkewicz 4:03 Two years? Excellent. And are you — where it's landed? Are you just so proud? Is it what you envisioned when you started? Gen. Dave Goldfein 4:10 You know, I am, but I will also say that it's just come out, so the initial response has been fantastic, but I'm really eager to see what the longer term response looks like, right? Did it resonate with our intended tenant audience? Right? Did the young captains that we had a chance to spend time with at SOS at Maxwell last week, right? They lined up forever to get a copy. But the real question is, did the stories resonate? Right? Do they actually give them some tools that they can use in their tool bag? Same thing with the cadets that we were privileged to spend time with the day. You know, they energized us. I mean, because we're looking at the we're looking at the future of the leadership of this country. And if, if these lessons in servant leadership can fill their tool bag a little bit, then we'll have hit the mark. Naviere Walkewicz 5:07 Yes, sir, yes. Ma'am. Well, let's jump right in then. And you talked about servant leadership. How would you describe it? Each of you, in your own words, Dr. Heather Wilson 5:15 To me, one of the things, important things about servant leadership is it's from the bottom. As a leader, your job is to enable the people who are doing the work. So in some ways, you know, people think that the pyramid goes like this, that it's the pyramid with the point at the top, and in servant leadership, it really is the other way around. And as a leader, one of the most important questions I ask my direct reports — I have for years — is: What do you need from me that you're not getting? And I can't print money in the basement, but what do you need from me that you're not getting? How, as a leader, can I better enable you to accomplish your piece of the mission. And I think a good servant leader is constantly thinking about, how do I — what can I do to make it easier for the people who are doing the job to get the mission done? Gen. Dave Goldfein 6:08 And I'd offer that the journey to becoming an inspirational servant leader is the journey of a lifetime. I'm not sure that any of us actually ever arrive. I'm not the leader that I want to be, but I'm working on it. And I think if we ever get to a point where we feel like we got it all figured out right, that we know exactly what this whole leadership gig is, that may be a good time to think about retiring, because what that translates to is perhaps at that point, we're not listening, we're not learning, we're not growing, we're not curious — all the things that are so important. The first chapter in the book is titled, Am I worthy? And it's a mirror-check question that we both came to both individually and together as secretary and chief. It's a mere check that you look at and say, “All right, on this lifelong journey to become an inspirational servant leader, am I worthy of the trust and confidence of the parents who have shared their sons and daughters with the United States Air Force and expecting us to lead with character and courage and confidence? Am I worthy of the gift that followers give to leaders? Am I earning that gift and re-earning it every single day by how I act, how I treat others?” You know, that's the essence of servant leadership that we try to bring forward in the book. Naviere Walkewicz 7:38 Right? Can you recall when you first saw someone exhibiting servant leadership in your life? Dr. Heather Wilson 7:46 Good question. It's a question of role models. Maj. William S. Reeder was my first air officer commanding here. And while I think I can probably think of some leaders in my community, you know, people who were school principals or those kind of things, I think Maj. Reeder terrified me because they didn't want to disappoint him. And he had — he was an Army officer who had been shot down as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. He still had some lingering issues. Now, I think he had broken his leg or his back or something, and so you could tell that he still carried with him the impact of that, but he had very high expectations of us and we didn't want to disappoint him. And I think he was a pretty good role model. Gen. Dave Goldfein 8:47 You know, one of the things we say at the very end of the book is that we both married up. We both married incredible leaders, servant leaders in their own right. So in my case, I married my high school sweetheart, and we've now been together almost 43 years, coming up on 43. And when you talk about servant leadership, you know, very often we don't give military spouses enough credit for the enormous courage that they have when they deal with the separations, the long hours, very often not talked about enough, the loneliness that comes with being married to someone who's in the military. And so I just give a shout out to every military spouse that's out there and family to thank them for that very special kind of courage that equates to servant leadership on their part. Naviere Walkewicz 9:47 Excellent. Those are both really great examples, and I think, as our listeners are engaging with this, they're going to start to think about those people in their lives as well, through your descriptions. Early in the book, you make this statement: “Leadership is a gift and a burden.” Might you both expand on that? Dr. Heather Wilson 10:03 So it's a gift in that it's a gift that's given to you by those whom you are privileged to lead, and it's not just an institution that, you know, it's not just the regents of the University of Texas who have said, “Yes, you're going to be the president of the University of Texas at El Paso.” It is those who follow me who have given me gift of their loyalty and their service and their time. It's a burden, because some days are hard days, and you have to make hard calls based on values to advance the mission and, as chief and service secretary, there are no easy decisions that come walking into that part of the Pentagon. The easy decisions are all made before it gets to the service secretary and chief and so. So there is that responsibility of trying to do well difficult things. And I think sometimes those are lonely decisions. Gen. Dave Goldfein 11:09 And I think as a leader of any organization, part of what can be the burden is if you care deeply about the institution, then you carry the burden of any failures of that institution, both individuals who fall short, or the institution itself. And we face some of those, and we talk about that in the book. One of our chapters is on Sutherland Springs and owning failure. There was no dodge in that. And there was, quite frankly, there was an opportunity for us to actually showcase and teach others how to take ownership when the institution falls short and fails, right? And you know, one of the interesting elements of the relationship between a secretary and a chief is that if you go back and look at the law and read the job description of the chief of staff of the Air Force, it basically says, “Run the air staff and do what the secretary tells you.” I'm not making that up. Because most of the decision authority of the institution resides in the civilian control, the military civilian secretary. So almost all authority and decision authority resides with the secretary. What the chief position brings is 30 years in the institution that very often can bring credibility and influence. And what we determined early in our tenure was that if we were going to move the ball, if we were going to actually move the service in a positive direction, neither of us could do it alone. We had to do it together. We had to use this combination of authority and influence to be able to move the institution forward. And so that was a — and we talked a lot about that, you know, in the book, and it sort of runs throughout our stories. You know, that that trust matters. Naviere Walkewicz 12:59 Absolutely. We're going to visit that towards the end of our conversation, because there's a particular time before you both — before you became the chief and before you became the service secretary, when you met up together. And I want to visit that a little bit. But before we do, Gen. Goldfein — JD — you shared a story in the book, and obviously we want everyone to read it, so I'm not going to go tell the whole story, but you know where you took off one more time than you landed, and you had to, you know, you were hit, you had to evade and then you had to be rescued. There was a particular statement you made to identify yourself. And many of our Long Blue Line members will know this: fast, neat, average, friendly, good, good. In that moment of watching the sun start to rise while you're waiting to be retrieved, how did that come to your mind? Of all the things you could be thinking of to identify yourself? Gen. Dave Goldfein 13:53 Well, you know, it's interesting. So, you know, for those who've never, you know, had gone through a high-speed ejection, people asked me, what was like? I said, “Well, I used to be 6-foot-3. This is all that's left, right?” And you know, my job once I was on the ground was, quite frankly, not to goof it up. To let the rescue team do what the rescue team needed to do, and to play my part, which was to put them at the least amount of risk and be able to get out before the sun came up. And at the very end of the rescue when the helicopters — where I was actually vectoring them towards my location. And I had a compass in my hand, and I had my eyes closed, and I was just listening to the chopper noise and then vectoring them based on noise. And then eventually we got them to come and land, you know, right in front of me. Well, they always teach you, and they taught me here at the Academy during SERE training, which I think has been retitled, but it was SERE when we went through it, survival training. Now, I believe they teach you, “Hey, listen, you need to be nonthreatening, because the rescue team needs to know that you're not — this is not an ambush, that you are actually who you say you are. Don't hold up a weapon, be submissive and authenticate yourself. Well, to authenticate myself required me to actually try my flashlight. And I could see the enemy just over the horizon. And as soon as the helicopter landed, the enemy knew exactly where we were, and they came and running, and they came shooting, and they were raking the tree line with bullets. And so, you know, what I needed to do was to figure out a way to do an authentication. And I just, what came to mind was that training all those years ago, right here at the Academy, and I just said, “I could use a fast, neat, average rescue,” and friendly, good, good was on the way. Naviere Walkewicz 15:53 Wow, I just got chill bumps. Dr. Wilson, have you ever had to use that same kind of term, or, you know, reaching out to a grad in your time frequently? Dr. Heather Wilson 16:04 Yes, ma'am. And, you know, even in the last week, funny — I had an issue that I had to, I won't go into the details, but where there was an issue that might affect the reputation, not only of the university, but of one of our major industry partners, and it wasn't caused by either of us, but there was kind of a, kind of a middle person that was known to us that may not have been entirely acting with integrity. And I just looked up the company. The CEO is an Academy grad. So I picked up the phone and I called the office and we had a conversation. And I said, “Hey, I'd like to have a conversation with you, grad to grad.” And I said, “There are some issues here that I don't need to go into the details, but where I think you and I need to be a little careful about our reputations and what matters is my relationship as the university with you and your company and what your company needs in terms of talent. But wanted to let you know something that happened and what we're doing about it, but I wanted to make sure that you and I are clear.” And it was foundation of values that we act with integrity and we don't tolerate people who won't. Naviere Walkewicz 17:30 Yes, ma'am, I love that. The Long Blue Line runs deep that way, and that's a great example. JD, you spoke about, in the book, after the rescue — by the way, the picture in there of that entire crew was amazing. I love that picture. But you talked about getting back up in the air as soon as possible, without any pomp and circumstance. “Just get me back in the air and into the action.” I'd like to visit two things. One, you debriefed with the — on the check ride, the debrief on the check ride and why that was important. And then also you spoke about the dilemma of being dad and squad comm. Can you talk about that as well? Gen. Dave Goldfein 18:06 Yeah, the check ride. So when I was in Desert Storm, an incredible squadron commander named Billy Diehl, and one of the things that he told us after he led all the missions in the first 30 days or so, he said, “Look, there will be a lot of medals, you know, from this war.” He goes, “But I'm going to do something for you that happened for me in Vietnam. I'm going to fly on your wing, and I'm going to give you a check ride, and you're going to have a documented check ride of a combat mission that you led in your flying record. I'm doing that for you.” OK, so fast forward 10 years, now I'm the squadron commander, and I basically followed his lead. Said, “Hey, I want…” So that night, when I was shot down, I was actually flying on the wing of one of my captains, “Jammer” Kavlick, giving him a check ride. And so, of course, the rescue turns out — I'm sitting here, so it turned out great. And so I called Jammer into a room, and I said, “Hey, man, we never did the check ride.” I said, “You know, you flew a formation right over the top of a surface enemy missile that took out your wingman. That's not a great start.” And he just sort of… “Yes, sir, I know.” I said, “And then you led an all-night rescue that returned him to his family. That's pretty good recovery.” And so it's been a joke between us ever since. But in his personal — his flying record, he has a form that says, “I'm exceptionally, exceptionally qualified.” So I got back and I thought about this when I was on the ground collecting rocks for my daughters, you know, as souvenirs from Serbia. I got back, and I looked at my wing commander, and I said, “Hey, sir, I know you probably had a chance to think about this, but I'm not your young captain that just got shot down. I'm the squadron commander, and I've got to get my squadron back on the horse, and the only way to do that is for me to get back in the air. So if it's OK with you, I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna get crew rest and I'm going to fly tonight.” And he looked at me, and he looked at my wife, Dawn, who was there, and he goes, “If it's OK with her, it's OK with me.” Great. Dawn, just a champion, she said, “I understand it. That's what you got to do.” Because we were flying combat missions with our families at home, which is, was not in the squadron commander handbook, right? Pretty unique. What I found, though, was that my oldest daughter was struggling a little bit with it, and so now you've got this, you know, OK, I owe it to my squad to get right back up in the air and lead that night. And I owe it to my daughter to make sure that she's OK. And so I chose to take one night, make sure that she and my youngest daughter, Diana, were both, you know, in a good place, that they knew that everything's going to be OK. And then I got back up the next night. And in some ways, I didn't talk about it with anybody in the media for a year, because my dad was a Vietnam vet, I'd met so many of his friends, and I'd met so many folks who had actually gotten shot down one and two and three times over Vietnam, in Laos, right? You know what they did after they got rescued? They got back up. They just went back up in the air, right? No fanfare, no book tours, no, you know, nothing, right? It was just get back to work. So for me, it was a way of very quietly honoring the Vietnam generation, to basically do what they did and get back in the air quietly. And so that was what it was all about. Naviere Walkewicz 21:25 Dr. Wilson, how about for you? Because I know — I remember reading in the book you had a — there was something you said where, if your children called, no matter what they could always get through. So how have you balanced family? Dr. Heather Wilson 21:36 Work and life. And so, when I was elected to the Congress, my son was 4 years old. My daughter was 18 months. First of all, I married well, just like Dave. But I also think my obligations to my family don't end at the front porch, and I want to make a better world for them. But I also knew that I was a better member of Congress because I had a family, and that in some ways, each gave richness and dimension to the other. We figured out how to make it work as a family. I mean, both my children have been to a White House Christmas ball and the State of the Union, but we always had a rule that you can call no matter what. And I remember there were some times that it confounded people and, like, there was one time when President Bush — W. Bush, 43 — was coming to New Mexico for the first time, and he was going to do some events in Albuquerque. And they called and they said, “Well, if the congresswoman wants to fly in with him from Texas, you know, she can get off the airplane in her district with the president. And the answer was, “That's the first day of school, and I always take my kids to school the first day, so I'll just meet him here.” And the staff was stunned by that, like, she turns down a ride on Air Force One to arrive in her district with the president of the United States to take her kids to school. Yes, George Bush understood it completely. And likewise, when the vice president came, and it was, you know, that the one thing leading up to another tough election — I never had an easy election — and the one thing I said to my staff all the way through October, leading — “There's one night I need off, and that's Halloween, because we're going trick or treating.” And wouldn't you know the vice president is flying into New Mexico on Halloween for some event in New Mexico, and we told them, “I will meet them at the stairs when they arrive in Albuquerque. I'll have my family with them, but I won't be going to the event because we're going trick or treating.” And in my house, I have this great picture of the vice president of the United States and his wife and my kids in costume meeting. So most senior people understood that my family was important to me and everybody's family, you know — most people work to put food on the table, and if, as a leader, you recognize that and you give them grace when they need it, you will also have wonderful people who will work for you sometimes when the pay is better somewhere else because you respect that their families matter to them and making room for that love is important. Naviere Walkewicz 24:36 May I ask a follow on to that? Because I think that what you said was really important. You had a leader that understood. What about some of our listeners that maybe have leaders that don't value the same things or family in the way that is important. How do they navigate that? Dr. Heather Wilson 24:52 Sometimes you look towards the next assignment, or you find a place where your values are the same. And if we have leaders out there who are not being cognizant of the importance of family — I mean, we may recruit airmen but we retain families, and if we are not paying attention to that, then we will lose exceptional people. So that means that sometimes, you know, I give a lot of flexibility to people who are very high performers and work with me. And I also know that if I call them at 10 o'clock at night, they're going to answer the phone, and that's OK. I understand what it's like to — I remember, you know, I was in New Mexico, I was a member of Congress, somebody was calling about an issue in the budget, and my daughter, who was probably 4 at the time, had an ear infection, and it was just miserable. And so I'm trying to get soup into her, and this guy is calling me, and she's got — and it was one of the few times I said — and it was the chairman of a committee — I said, “Can I just call you back? I've got a kid with an ear infection…” And he had five kids. He said, “Oh, absolutely, you call me back.” So you just be honest with people about the importance of family. Why are we in the service? We're here to protect our families and everybody else's family. And that's OK. Naviere Walkewicz 26:23 Yes, thank you for sharing that. Anything to add to that, JD? No? OK. Well, Dr. Wilson, I'd like to go into the book where you talk about your chapter on collecting tools, which is a wonderful chapter, and you talk about Malcolm Baldridge. I had to look him up — I'll be honest — to understand, as a businessman, his career and his legacy. But maybe share in particular why he has helped you. Or maybe you've leveraged his process in the way that you kind of think through and systematically approach things. Dr. Heather Wilson 26:49 Yeah, there was a movement in the, it would have been in the early '90s, on the Malcolm Baldrige Quality Awards. It came out of the Department of Commerce, but then it spread to many of the states and it was one of the better models I thought for how to run organizations strategically. And I learned about it when I was a small businessperson in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And I thought it was interesting. But the thing that I liked about it was it scaled. It was a little bit like broccoli, you know, it looks the same at the little flora as it does at the whole head, right? And so it kind of became a model for how I could use those tools about being data driven, strategically focused, process oriented that I could use in reforming a large and not very well functioning child welfare department when I became a cabinet secretary for children, youth and families, which was not on my how-to-run-my-career card. That was not in the plan, but again, it was a set of tools that I'd learned in one place that I brought with me and thought might work in another. Naviere Walkewicz 28:02 Excellent. And do you follow a similar approach, JD, in how you approach a big problem? Gen. Dave Goldfein 28:07 I think we're all lifelong students of different models and different frameworks that work. And there's not a one-size-fits-all for every organization. And the best leaders, I think, are able to tailor their approach based on what the mission — who the people are, what they're trying to accomplish. I had a chance to be a an aide de camp to a three-star, Mike Ryan, early in my career, and he went on to be chief of staff of the Air Force. And one of the frameworks that he taught me was he said, “If you really want to get anything done,” he said, “you've got to do three things.” He said, “First of all, you got to put a single person in charge.” He said, “Committees and groups solve very little. Someone's got to drive to work feeling like they've got the authority, the responsibility, the resources and everything they need to accomplish what it is that you want to accomplish. So get a single person in charge. Most important decision you will make as a leader, put the right person in charge. Second, that person owes you a plan in English. Not 15 PowerPoint slides, right, but something that clearly articulates in one to two pages, max, exactly what we're trying to accomplish. And the third is, you've got to have a way to follow up.” He said, “Because life gets in the way of any perfect plan. And what will happen is,” he goes, “I will tell you how many times,” he said, “that I would circle back with my team, you know, a couple months later and say, ‘How's it going?' And they would all look at each other and say, “Well, I thought you were in charge,” right? And then after that, once they figure out who was in charge, they said, “Well, we were working this plan, but we got, you know, we had to go left versus right, because we had this crisis, this alligator started circling the canoe, and therefore we had to, you know, take care of that,” right? He says, “As a leader, those are the three elements of any success. Put someone in charge. Build a plan that's understandable and readable, and always follow up. And I've used that as a framework, you know, throughout different organizations, even all the way as chief to find — to make sure that we had the right things. Dr. Heather Wilson 30:21 Even this morning, somebody came by who reminded us of a story that probably should have been in the book, where we had — it was a cyber vulnerability that was related to a particular piece of software widely deployed, and the CIO was having trouble getting the MAJCOMMS to kind of take it seriously. And they were saying, “Well, you know, we think maybe in 30, 60, 90 days, six months, we'll have it all done,” or whatever. So I said, “OK, let all the four-stars know. I want to be updated every 36 hours on how many of them, they still have, still have not updated.” I mean, this is a major cyber vulnerability that we knew was — could be exploited and wasn't some little thing. It was amazing; it got done faster. Naviere Walkewicz 31:11 No 90 days later. Oh, my goodness. Well, that was excellent and actually, I saw that in action in the story, in the book, after the attack on the Pentagon, and when you stood up and took charge, kind of the relief efforts, because many people were coming in that wanted to help, and they just needed someone to lead how that could happen. So you were putting into practice. Yes, sir. I'd like to get into where you talk about living your purpose, and that's a chapter in there. But you know, Gen. Goldfein, we have to get into this. You left the Academy as a cadet, and I think that's something that not many people are familiar with. You ride across the country on a bike with a guitar on your back for part of the time — and you sent it to Dawn after a little while — Mini-Bear in your shirt, to find your purpose. Was there a moment during the six months that you that hit you like lightning and you knew that this was your purpose, or was it a gradual meeting of those different Americans you kind of came across? Gen. Dave Goldfein 32:04 Definitely gradual. You know, it was something that just built up over time. I used to joke — we both knew Chairman John McCain and always had great respect for him. And I remember one time in his office, I said, “Chairman, I got to share with you that I lived in constant fear during every hearing that you were going to hold up a piece of paper on camera and say, ‘General, I got your transcript from the Air Force Academy. You got to be kidding me, right?' And he laughed, and he said, Trust me, if you looked at my transcript in Annapolis,” he goes, “I'm the last guy that would have ever asked that question.” But you know, the we made a mutual decision here, sometimes just things all come together. I'd written a paper on finding my purpose about the same time that there was a professor from Annapolis that was visiting and talking about a sabbatical program that Annapolis had started. And so they started talking about it, and then this paper made it and I got called in. They said, “Hey, we're thinking about starting this program, you know, called Stop Out, designed to stop people from getting out. We read your paper. What would you do if you could take a year off?” And I said, “Wow, you know, if I could do it, I'll tell you. I would start by going to Philmont Scout Ranch, you know, and be a backcountry Ranger,” because my passion was for the outdoors, and do that. “And then I would go join my musical hero, Harry Chapin.” Oh, by the way, he came to the United States Air Force Academy in the early '60s. Right? Left here, built a band and wrote the hit song Taxi. “So I would go join him as a roadie and just sort of see whether music and the outdoors, which my passions are, what, you know, what it's all about for me.” Well, we lost contact with the Chapin connection. So I ended up on this bicycle riding around the country. And so many families took me in, and so many towns that I rode into, you know, I found that if I just went to the library and said, “Hey, tell me a little bit about the history of this town,” the librarian would call, like, the last, you know, three or four of the seniors the town, they'd all rush over to tell me the story of, you know, this particular little town, right? And then someone would also say, “Hey, where are you staying tonight?” “I'm staying in my tent.” They said, “Oh, come stay with me.” So gradually, over time, I got to know America, and came to the conclusion when I had to make the decision to come back or not, that this country is really worth defending, that these people are hard-working, you know, that want to make the world better for their kids and their grandkids, and they deserve a United States Air Force, the best air force on the planet, to defend them. So, you know, when I came back my last two years, and I always love sharing this with cadets, because some of them are fighting it, some of them have embraced it. And all I tell them is, “Hey, I've done both. And all I can tell you is, the sooner you embrace it and find your purpose, this place is a lot more fun.” Naviere Walkewicz 35:13 Truth in that, yes, yes, well. And, Dr. Wilson, how did you know you were living your purpose? Dr. Heather Wilson 35:19 Well, I've had a lot of different chapters to my life. Yes, and we can intellectualize it on why we, you know, why I made a certain decision at a certain time, but there were doors that opened that I never even knew were there. But at each time and at each junction, there was a moment where somehow I just knew. And at South Dakota Mines is a good example. You know, I lost a race to the United States Senate. I actually had some interns — I benefited from a lousy job market, and I had fantastic interns, and we were helping them through the loss. You know, they're young. They were passionate. They, as Churchill said, “The blessing and the curse of representative government is one in the same. The people get what they choose.” And so I was helping them through that, and one of them said, “Well, Dr. Wilson, you're really great with students. You should be a college president somewhere. Texas Tech needs a president. You should apply there,” because that's where this kid was going to school. And I said, “Well, but I don't think they're looking for me.” But it did cause me to start thinking about it and I had come close. I had been asked about a college presidency once before, and I started looking at it and talking to headhunters and so forth. And initially, South Dakota Mines didn't seem like a great fit, because I'm a Bachelor of Science degree here, but my Ph.D. is in a nonscientific discipline, and it's all engineers and scientists. But as I went through the process, it just felt more and more right. And on the day of the final interviews, that evening, it was snowing in South Dakota, there was a concert in the old gym. I mean, this is an engineering school, and they had a faculty member there who had been there for 40 years, who taught choral music, and the students stood up, and they started singing their warm up, which starts out with just one voice, and eventually gets to a 16-part harmony and it's in Latin, and it's music is a gift from God, and they go through it once, and then this 40th anniversary concert, about 50 people from the audience stand up and start singing. It's like a flash mob, almost These were all alumni who came back. Forty years of alumni to be there for that concert for him. And they all went up on stage and sang together in this just stunning, beautiful concert by a bunch of engineers. And I thought, “There's something special going on here that's worth being part of,” and there are times when you just know. And the same with becoming cabinet secretary for children, youth and families — that was not in the plan and there's just a moment where I knew that was what I should do now. How I should use my gifts now? And you hope that you're right in making those decisions. Naviere Walkewicz 38:43 Well, probably aligning with JD's point in the book of following your gut. Some of that's probably attached to you finding your purpose. Excellent. I'd like to visit the time Dr. Wilson, when you were helping President Bush with the State of the Union address, and in particular, you had grueling days, a lot of hours prepping, and when it was time for it to be delivered, you weren't there. You went home to your apartment in the dark. You were listening on the radio, and there was a moment when the Congress applauded and you felt proud, but something that you said really stuck with me. And he said, I really enjoy being the low-key staff member who gets stuff done. Can you talk more about that? Because I think sometimes we don't, you know, the unsung heroes are sometimes the ones that are really getting so many things done, but nobody knows. Dr. Heather Wilson 39:31 So, I'm something of an introvert and I've acquired extrovert characteristics in order to survive professionally. But when it comes to where I get my batteries recharged, I'm quite an introvert, and I really loved — and the same in international negotiations, being often the liaison, the back channel, and I did that in the conventional forces in Europe negotiations for the American ambassador. And in some ways, I think it might have been — in the case of the conventional forces in Europe negotiations, I was on the American delegation here. I was in Vienna. I ended up there because, for a bunch of weird reasons, then they asked me if I would go there for three months TDY. It's like, “Oh, three months TDY in Vienna, Austria. Sign me up.” But I became a very junior member on the delegation, but I was the office of the secretary of defense's representative, and walked into this palace where they were negotiating between what was then the 16 NATO nations and the seven Warsaw Pact countries. And the American ambassador turned to me, and he said during this several times, “I want you to sit behind me and to my right, and several times I'm going to turn and talk to you, and I just want you to lean in and answer.” I mean, he wasn't asking anything substantive, and I just, “Yes, sir.” But what he was doing was credentialing me in front of the other countries around that table. Now, I was very young, there were only two women in the room. The other one was from Iceland, and what he was doing was putting me in a position to be able to negotiate the back channel with several of our allies and with — this was six months or so now, maybe a year before the fall of the Berlin Wall. So things were changing in Eastern Europe, and so I really have always enjoyed just that quietly getting things done, building consensus, finding the common ground, figuring out a problem. Actually have several coffee mugs that just say GSD, and the other side does say, Get Stuff Done. And I like that, and I like people who do that. And I think those quiet — we probably don't say thank you enough to the quiet, hardworking people that just figure out how to get stuff done. Naviere Walkewicz 41:59 Well, I like how he credentialed you and actually brought that kind of credibility in that way as a leader. JD, how have you done that as a leader? Champion, some of those quiet, behind the scenes, unsung heroes. Gen. Dave Goldfein 42:11 I'm not sure where the quote comes from, but it's something to the effect of, “It's amazing what you can get done if you don't care who gets the credit.” There's so much truth to that. You know, in the in the sharing of success, right? As servant leaders, one of the things that I think both of us spend a lot of time on is to make sure that credit is shared with all the folks who, behind the scenes, you know, are doing the hard, hard work to make things happen, and very often, you know, we're the recipients of the thank yous, right? And the gratefulness of an organization or for somebody who's benefited from our work, but when you're at the very senior leaders, you know what you do is you lay out the vision, you create the environment to achieve that vision. But the hard, hard work is done by so many others around you. Today, in the audience when we were there at Polaris Hall, was Col. Dave Herndon. So Col. Dave Herndon, when he was Maj. Dave Herndon, was my aide de camp, and I can tell you that there are so many successes that his fingers are on that he got zero credit for, because he was quietly behind the scenes, making things happen, and that's just the nature of servant leadership, is making sure that when things go well, you share it, and when things go badly, you own it. Naviere Walkewicz 43:47 And you do share a really remarkable story in there about accountability. And so we won't spend so much time talking about that, but I do want to go to the point where you talk about listening, and you say, listening is not passive; it's active and transformative. As servant leaders, have you ever uncovered challenges that your team has experienced that you didn't have the ability to fix and you know, what action did you take in those instances? Dr. Heather Wilson 44:09 You mean this morning? All the time. And sometimes — and then people will give you grace, if you're honest about that. You don't make wild promises about what you can do, but then you sit and listen and work through and see all right, what is within the realm of the possible here. What can we get done? Or who can we bring to the table to help with a set of problems? But, there's no… You don't get a — when I was president of South Dakota Mines, one of the people who worked with me, actually gave me, from the toy store, a magic wand. But it doesn't work. But I keep it in my office, in case, you know… So there's no magic wands, but being out there listening to understand, not just listening to refute, right? And then seeing whether there are things that can be done, even if there's some things you just don't have the answers for, right? Gen. Dave Goldfein 45:11 The other thing I would offer is that as senior leadership and as a senior leadership team, you rarely actually completely solve anything. What you do is improve things and move the ball. You take the hand you're dealt, right, and you find creative solutions. You create the environment, lay out the vision and then make sure you follow up, move the ball, and if you get at the end of your tenure, it's time for you to move on, and you've got the ball moved 20, 30, yards down the field. That's actually not bad, because most of the things we were taking on together, right, were big, hard challenges that we needed to move the ball on, right? I If you said, “Hey, did you completely revitalize the squadrons across the United States Air Force?” I will tell you, absolutely not. Did we get the ball about 20, 30 yards down the field? And I hope so. I think we did. Did we take the overhaul that we did of officer development to be able to ensure that we were producing the senior leaders that the nation needs, not just the United States Air Force needs? I will tell you that we didn't solve it completely, but we moved the ball down the field, and we did it in a way that was able to stick. You know, very often you plant seeds as a leader, and you never know whether those seeds are going to, you know, these seeds are ideas, right? And you never know whether the seeds are going to hit fertile soil or rocks. And I would often tell, you know, young leaders too. I said, you know, in your last few months that you're privileged to be in the position of leadership, you've got two bottles on your hip. You're walking around with — one of them's got fertilizer and one of them's got Roundup. And your job in that final few months is to take a look at the seeds that you planted and truly determine whether they hit fertile soil and they've grown roots, and if they've grown roots, you pull out the fertilizer, and the fertilizer you're putting on it is to make it part of the institution not associated with you, right? You want somebody some years from now say, “Hey, how do we ever do that whole squadron thing?” The right answer is, “I have no idea, but look at how much better we are.” That's the right answer, right? That's the fertilizer you put on it. But it's just equally important to take a look at the ideas that, just for whatever reason, sometimes beyond your control — they just didn't stick right. Get out the Roundup. Because what you don't want to do is to pass on to your successor something that didn't work for you, because it probably ain't going to work for her. Dr. Heather Wilson 47:46 That's right, which is one of the rules of leadership is take the garbage out with you when you go. Naviere Walkewicz 47:51 I like that. I like that a lot. Well, we are — just a little bit of time left. I want to end this kind of together on a story that you shared in the book about laughter being one of the tools you share. And after we share this together, I would like to ask you, I know we talked about mirror checks, but what are some things that you guys are doing every day to be better as well, to continue learning. But to get to the laughter piece, you mentioned that laughter is an underappreciated tool and for leaders, something that you both share. I want to talk about the time when you got together for dinner before you began working as chief and service secretary, and I think you may have sung an AF pro song. We're not going to ask you to sing that today, unless you'd like to JD? But let's talk about laughter. Gen. Dave Goldfein 48:31 The dean would throw me out. Naviere Walkewicz 48:33 OK, OK, we won't have you sing that today. But how have you found laughter — when you talk about — when the questions and the problems come up to you? Dr. Heather Wilson 48:40 So I'm going to start this because I think Dave Goldfein has mastered this leadership skill of how to use humor, and self-deprecating humor, better than almost any leader I've ever met. And it's disarming, which is a great technique, because he's actually wicked smart. But it's also people walk in the room knowing if you're going to a town hall meeting or you're going to be around the table, at least sometime in that meeting, we're going to laugh. And it creates a warmth and people drop their guard a little bit. You get to the business a little bit earlier. You get beyond the standard PowerPoint slides, and people just get down to work. And it just — people relax. And I think Dave is very, very good at it. Now, my husband would tell you that I was raised in the home for the humor impaired, and I have been in therapy with him for almost 35 years. Naviere Walkewicz 49:37 So have you improved? Dr. Heather Wilson 49:39 He thinks I've made some progress. Naviere Walkewicz 49:41 You've moved the ball. Dr. Heather Wilson 49:44 Yes. Made some progress. I still don't — I used to start out with saying the punch line and then explain why it was funny. Naviere Walkewicz 49:52 I'm in your camp a little bit. I try. My husband says, “Leave the humor to me.” Dr. Heather Wilson 49:54 Yeah, exactly. You understand. Gen. Dave Goldfein 49:58 I used to joke that I am a member of the Class of 1981['82 and '83]. I am the John Belushi of the United States Air Force Academy, a patron saint of late bloomers. But you know, honestly, Heather doesn't give herself enough credit for building an environment where, you know, folks can actually do their very best work. That's one of the things that we do, right? Because we have — the tools that we have available to be able to get things done very often, are the people that are we're privileged to lead and making sure that they are part of an organization where they feel valued, where we're squinting with our ears. We're actually listening to them. Where they're making a contribution, right? Where they believe that what they're being able to do as part of the institution or the organization is so much more than they could ever do on their own. That's what leadership is all about. Dr. Heather Wilson 51:05 You know, we try to — I think both of us see the humor in everyday life, and when people know that I have a desk plate that I got in South Dakota, and it doesn't say “President.” It doesn't say “Dr. Wilson.” It says, “You're kidding me, right?” Because once a week, more frequently as secretary and chief, but certainly frequently as a college president, somebody is going to walk in and say, “Chief, there's something you need to know.” And if they know they're going to get blasted out of the water or yelled at, people are going to be less likely to come in and tell you, right, what you need to know. But if you're at least willing to laugh at the absurdity of the — somebody thought that was a good idea, you know. My gosh, let's call the lawyers or whatever. But you know, you've just got to laugh, and if you laugh, people will know that you just put things in perspective and then deal with the problem. Naviere Walkewicz 52:06 Well, it connects us as humans. Yeah. Well, during my conversation today with Dr. Heather Wilson and Gen. Dave Goldfein — JD — two lessons really stood out to me. Leadership is not about avoiding the fall, but about how high you bounce back and how your recovery can inspire those you lead. It's also about service, showing up, doing the hard work and putting others before yourself with humility, integrity and working together. Dr. Wilson, Gen. Goldfein, thank you for showing us how courage, compassion and connection — they're not soft skills. They're actually the edge of hard leadership. And when you do that and you lead with service, you get back up after every fall. You encourage others to follow and do the same. Thank you for joining us for this powerful conversation. You can find Get Back Up: Lessons in Servant Leadership, wherever books are sold. And learn more at getbackupeadership.com. If today's episode inspired you, please share it with someone who can really benefit in their own leadership journey. As always, keep learning. Keep getting back up. Keep trying. I'm Naviere Walkewicz, Class of '99. This has been Focus On Leadership. Until next time. Producer This edition of Focus on Leadership, the accelerated leadership series, was recorded on Monday, Oct. 6, 2025. KEYWORDS Leadership, servant leadership, resilience, humility, integrity, influence, teamwork, family, trust, listening, learning, purpose, growth, accountability, service, courage, compassion, balance, values, inspiration. The Long Blue Line Podcast Network is presented by the U.S. Air Force Academy Association & Foundation
"AahBecause the world is roundIt turns me onBecause the world is roundAahBecause the wind is highIt blows my mindBecause the wind is high"Please join me on this 1st day of the Winter Solstice "Because" I have prepared another terrific soundtrack for your Sunday Evening. Coming along for the journey are 10CC, Don McLean, The Band, Jerry Garcia, The Eagles, Harry Chapin, Spirit, The Doors, New Riders Of The Purple Sage, America, Simon & Garfunkel, The Doors, Moody Blues, Traffic, Sly & The Family Stone, Little Feat, Blood Sweat & Tears, Little River Band, Marshall Tucker Band, John Lennon, The Guess Who, War and The Beatles...
Emerson, the handheld cassette recorder, plays Adelle and Lou his version of Harry Chapin's 1974 bummerfolk classic Cats in the Cradle. Lou describes the devastating effect the song had on his young psyche and his future songwriting attempts. Also, the belated November birthday shout-outs just don't stop! WATCH on LouTubehttps://youtu.be/j5UId7HAL48 BARLOW FAMILY GENERAL STORE / WORKS ON PAPER Holiday Pop-Up..DECEMBER 21, 2025, 11-4..44 CHAPMAN ST. GREENFIELD MA 01301!! all kindsa gifts, practical and whimsical, plus the usual knitwear, music related items and more.. come say hi!shop online!https://barlowfamilygeneralstore.com/join our Substack just 'cause!https://barlowfamilygeneral.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Episode 180 of Kliq This bounces between old school habits and modern chaos, with Kevin Nash and Sean Oliver kicking things off on a very specific hill: paper tax documents, physical records, and why trusting everything to "the cloud" feels like inviting trouble. From there it turns into a surprisingly personal holiday conversation, with Kevin talking about why Christmas hits differently for him, and Sean pitching a very "classic TV special" solution that Kevin immediately wants no part of. It is funny, but it is also real in the way this show is at its best. Then the curtain pulls back on Kevin's at home setup and it becomes its own kind of comedy. Spotty cell reception, an ocean view bathroom routine, DirecTV, DVR logic, and a mindset that basically says if you can avoid leaving the house, you should. It is the most Kevin Nash segment possible. The back half goes everywhere in the best way. NFL misery, wrestling lore, commentary talk, and the kind of audience driven questions that send the conversation into unexpected lanes, including a game that absolutely sounds like it should not work on a wrestling podcast and somehow does. If you are in the 11SOFT Club, this one feels like hanging out in the room for the whole ride. For everyone else, go to kliqthistv.com and join the crew for early, ad free episodes and the full pre show vibe. ButcherBox — Go to ButcherBox.com/NASH for free protein in every box for a year, plus $20 off your first box and free shipping. BlueChew — Visit BlueChew.com and try your first month free with promo code NASH, just pay $5 shipping. Get Blitzed — Save 15% at Get-Blitzed.com with code KLIQ at checkout. Ridge Holiday Sale — Take advantage of Ridge's Biggest Sale of the Year and get up to 47% off at Ridge.com/KLIQ with code KLIQ. 00:00 Kliq This #180: The Death of the Cinema a 00:56 Paper Tax Documents 03:23 Coping with Christmas 07:31 The cell reception at Kev's house 11:52 DET Lions 15:59 BREAK BUTCHERBOX 18:25 Corruption 18:57 Hegseth 23:53 Watergate 26:45 Roy Cone 27:41 skid ratio 33:12 JR and King 35:09 DVR 36:20 Kliq This at The Gathering 36:58 paperwork to become a church 38:14 BREAK BLUECHEW 40:58 www.KliqthisTV.com 41:25 Harry Chapin's "Sequel." 53:25 Randy Orton 57:02 Randy Orton 01:02:01 BREAK Get Blitzed 01:04:37 Porn Name or WWE wrestler? 01:08:55 Netflix/WBD merger 01:24:02 BREAK RIDGE WALLET 01:26:55 Movie offer 01:28:57 Samoa Joe for LA Knight 01:29:25 Phillip Rivers 01:32:04 Pope TNA 01:32:49 WW3 match 01:33:29 Unmasking Rey Mysterio 01:36:57 Similar to "Beast in Me" 01:37:50 OUTRO
Pearl Harbor Remembrance day. Entertainment from 2003. Deleware became the 1st state, Jet stream discovered, 1st instant replay used, 1st execution by lethal injection. Todays birthdays - Clarence Nash, Ted Knight, Ellen Burstyn, Harry Chapin, Gary Mooris, C, Thomas Howell, Sara Bareilles. Chuck Yeager died.Intro - Pour some sugar on me - Def Leppard http://defleppard.com/Stand up - Lucacris feat. ShawnaI love this bar - Taby KeithBirthday - The BeatlesBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/Donald Duck theme songI'm alright - Kenny LogginsCats in the cradle - Harry ChapinBaby bye bye - Gary MorrisLove song - Sara BareillesExit - It's not love - Dokken http://dokken.net/
On the December 7 edition of the Music History Today podcast, two movie musicals premiere, the Animals end, Greg Lake passes away, & happy birthday to Harry Chapin, Sara Bareilles, & Aaron Carter For more music history, subscribe to my Spotify Channel or subscribe to the audio version of my music history podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts fromALL MUSIC HISTORY TODAY PODCAST NETWORK LINKS - https://allmylinks.com/musichistorytoday
In this extraordinary episode of Takin’ A Walk, host Buzz Knight sits down with Oscar and Emmy-nominated documentary filmmaker Rick Korn for an intimate conversation about the power of music to transform lives,.Rick’s latest documentary, “Cat’s in the Cradle: The Song That Changed Our Lives,” explores one of the most iconic and emotionally resonant songs in American music history, revealing how Harry Chapin’s timeless classic continues to influence musicians, families, and communities decades after its release. Rick Korn has built his remarkable career around creating socially conscious documentaries that don’t just document history—they inspire people to take action and make a difference in the world. Rick has dedicated himself to telling inspiring music stories that illuminate the intersection of artistry and activism, showing how musicians can leverage their platforms to address society’s most pressing challenges. His work with legendary artists and humanitarian causes has positioned him as one of the most important documentary filmmakers working in the music space today. The conversation begins with Rick sharing the origin story of his deep connection to Harry Chapin, the singer-songwriter whose commitment to fighting hunger and poverty was as legendary as his musical talent. Harry Chapin wasn’t just a hitmaker who gave us “Cat’s in the Cradle,” “Taxi,” “W.O.L.D.,” and other chart-topping songs—he was a tireless activist who gave away an estimated half of his concert earnings to charitable causes. In 1975, Harry Chapin co-founded World Hunger Year, which later became WHYHunger, an organization that continues to fight food insecurity in 24 countries around the world, affecting millions of lives every month. His impact on the philanthropic world was so profound that he received the Congressional Gold Medal posthumously, and his legacy continues to inspire new generations of artists to use their fame for good. Rick explains how this song, written by Harry’s wife Sandy, became more than just a hit record—it became a cultural mirror that reflected back to America the consequences of misplaced priorities, the pain of missed opportunities with loved ones, and the universal struggle between career ambitions and family responsibilities. The song’s narrative about a father too busy to spend time with his son, only to find that same son too busy for him in later years, struck a chord that continues to resonate more than fifty years after its release. What makes Rick’s latest documentary so compelling is the diverse range of voices he assembled to explore the song’s impact. Billy Joel provides fascinating insights into the craft of songwriting and how “Cat’s in the Cradle” achieved something rare in popular music—a perfect marriage of melody, lyric, and universal truth that transcends generations. Billy Joel’s own relationship with Harry Chapin as a mentor and friend adds emotional depth to his reflections on the song’s enduring power. He discusses how opening for Harry Chapin’s band taught him not just about performing, but about using music as a force for positive change in the world. Rick shares the story of interviewing Darryl DMC McDaniels and being struck by the raw honesty of his reaction to “Cat’s in the Cradle.” Despite coming from a completely different musical tradition, DMC connected deeply with the song’s message about fatherhood, presence, and the choices we make about how we spend our time. The documentary also features Dee Snider of Twisted Sister, whose interview began with him declaring his dislike for acoustic music, only to confess that “Cat’s in the Cradle” was the one song that broke through his resistance. This moment perfectly illustrates the song’s unique power—it can reach people who might otherwise never connect with folk-influenced storytelling music.Support the show: https://takinawalk.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this extraordinary episode of Takin’ A Walk, host Buzz Knight sits down with Oscar and Emmy-nominated documentary filmmaker Rick Korn for an intimate conversation about the power of music to transform lives,.Rick’s latest documentary, “Cat’s in the Cradle: The Song That Changed Our Lives,” explores one of the most iconic and emotionally resonant songs in American music history, revealing how Harry Chapin’s timeless classic continues to influence musicians, families, and communities decades after its release. Rick Korn has built his remarkable career around creating socially conscious documentaries that don’t just document history—they inspire people to take action and make a difference in the world. Rick has dedicated himself to telling inspiring music stories that illuminate the intersection of artistry and activism, showing how musicians can leverage their platforms to address society’s most pressing challenges. His work with legendary artists and humanitarian causes has positioned him as one of the most important documentary filmmakers working in the music space today. The conversation begins with Rick sharing the origin story of his deep connection to Harry Chapin, the singer-songwriter whose commitment to fighting hunger and poverty was as legendary as his musical talent. Harry Chapin wasn’t just a hitmaker who gave us “Cat’s in the Cradle,” “Taxi,” “W.O.L.D.,” and other chart-topping songs—he was a tireless activist who gave away an estimated half of his concert earnings to charitable causes. In 1975, Harry Chapin co-founded World Hunger Year, which later became WHYHunger, an organization that continues to fight food insecurity in 24 countries around the world, affecting millions of lives every month. His impact on the philanthropic world was so profound that he received the Congressional Gold Medal posthumously, and his legacy continues to inspire new generations of artists to use their fame for good. Rick explains how this song, written by Harry’s wife Sandy, became more than just a hit record—it became a cultural mirror that reflected back to America the consequences of misplaced priorities, the pain of missed opportunities with loved ones, and the universal struggle between career ambitions and family responsibilities. The song’s narrative about a father too busy to spend time with his son, only to find that same son too busy for him in later years, struck a chord that continues to resonate more than fifty years after its release. What makes Rick’s latest documentary so compelling is the diverse range of voices he assembled to explore the song’s impact. Billy Joel provides fascinating insights into the craft of songwriting and how “Cat’s in the Cradle” achieved something rare in popular music—a perfect marriage of melody, lyric, and universal truth that transcends generations. Billy Joel’s own relationship with Harry Chapin as a mentor and friend adds emotional depth to his reflections on the song’s enduring power. He discusses how opening for Harry Chapin’s band taught him not just about performing, but about using music as a force for positive change in the world. Rick shares the story of interviewing Darryl DMC McDaniels and being struck by the raw honesty of his reaction to “Cat’s in the Cradle.” Despite coming from a completely different musical tradition, DMC connected deeply with the song’s message about fatherhood, presence, and the choices we make about how we spend our time. The documentary also features Dee Snider of Twisted Sister, whose interview began with him declaring his dislike for acoustic music, only to confess that “Cat’s in the Cradle” was the one song that broke through his resistance. This moment perfectly illustrates the song’s unique power—it can reach people who might otherwise never connect with folk-influenced storytelling music.Support the show: https://musicsavedme.net/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Music Saved Me Episode Description: Dee Snider & Darryl McDaniels on Harry Chapin’s Legacy and the healing power of music. Join host Lynn Hoffman for an unforgettable episode of Music Saved Me as rock icon Dee Snider (Twisted Sister) and hip-hop legend Darryl “DMC” McDaniels (Run-DMC) come together to discuss the powerful new Harry Chapin documentary and the enduring impact of the legendary singer-songwriter’s music. In this compelling conversation, Dee Snider and DMC explore how Harry Chapin’s storytelling genius and socially conscious songwriting influenced generations of musicians across all genres. The discussion centers on Chapin’s most iconic work and his commitment to fighting hunger and social justice through music activism, and the healing power of music. Discover how Harry Chapin’s narrative-driven songs shaped the careers of two musicians from completely different musical worlds—from heavy metal to hip-hop. Dee Snider shares insights on Chapin’s influence on rock storytelling, while Darryl McDaniels reveals unexpected connections between Chapin’s folk-rock legacy and hip-hop’s storytelling tradition. This episode examines Harry Chapin’s philanthropic work, his unprecedented dedication to humanitarian causes and healing , and how his music continues to inspire artists to use their platforms for social change. Learn about Chapin’s lasting legacy in the music industry and why his work remains relevant to contemporary musicians and fans alike. Topics covered: • Harry Chapin documentary insights and behind-the-scenes stories • The intersection of music and activism in Harry Chapin’s career • How folk-rock storytelling influenced heavy metal and hip-hop • Music as a tool for social justice and humanitarian work • The enduring healing power of narrative songwriting across musical genres • Personal stories of how Harry Chapin’s music saved lives and inspired careers Perfect for fans of classic rock, hip-hop history, folk music, music documentaries, and anyone interested in how music can change the world. This episode celebrates Harry Chapin’s timeless contributions to American music and social activism and the healing power of music. #MusicSavedMe #HarryChapin #DeeSnider #DMC #DarrylMcDaniels #TwistedSister #RunDMC #MusicDocumentary #MusicActivism #Storytelling #ClassicRock #HipHopLegends #FolkRock #MusicPodcast #LynnHoffman #healing power of musicSupport the show: https://takinawalk.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Music Saved Me Episode Description: Dee Snider & Darryl McDaniels on Harry Chapin’s Legacy and the healing power of music. Join host Lynn Hoffman for an unforgettable episode of Music Saved Me as rock icon Dee Snider (Twisted Sister) and hip-hop legend Darryl “DMC” McDaniels (Run-DMC) come together to discuss the powerful new Harry Chapin documentary and the enduring impact of the legendary singer-songwriter’s music. In this compelling conversation, Dee Snider and DMC explore how Harry Chapin’s storytelling genius and socially conscious songwriting influenced generations of musicians across all genres. The discussion centers on Chapin’s most iconic work and his commitment to fighting hunger and social justice through music activism, and the healing power of music. Discover how Harry Chapin’s narrative-driven songs shaped the careers of two musicians from completely different musical worlds—from heavy metal to hip-hop. Dee Snider shares insights on Chapin’s influence on rock storytelling, while Darryl McDaniels reveals unexpected connections between Chapin’s folk-rock legacy and hip-hop’s storytelling tradition. This episode examines Harry Chapin’s philanthropic work, his unprecedented dedication to humanitarian causes and healing , and how his music continues to inspire artists to use their platforms for social change. Learn about Chapin’s lasting legacy in the music industry and why his work remains relevant to contemporary musicians and fans alike. Topics covered: • Harry Chapin documentary insights and behind-the-scenes stories • The intersection of music and activism in Harry Chapin’s career • How folk-rock storytelling influenced heavy metal and hip-hop • Music as a tool for social justice and humanitarian work • The enduring healing power of narrative songwriting across musical genres • Personal stories of how Harry Chapin’s music saved lives and inspired careers Perfect for fans of classic rock, hip-hop history, folk music, music documentaries, and anyone interested in how music can change the world. This episode celebrates Harry Chapin’s timeless contributions to American music and social activism and the healing power of music. #MusicSavedMe #HarryChapin #DeeSnider #DMC #DarrylMcDaniels #TwistedSister #RunDMC #MusicDocumentary #MusicActivism #Storytelling #ClassicRock #HipHopLegends #FolkRock #MusicPodcast #LynnHoffman #healing power of musicSupport the show: https://musicsavedme.net/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This trailer promotes a special Thanksgiving Holiday upcoming episode with host Lynn Hoffman promoting the upcoming episode with Darryl McDaniels of Run DMC fame and Dee Snider of Twisted Sister fame as they discuss the Harry Chapin documentary-"Cats in the Cradle-The Song that changed our lives."Support the show: https://takinawalk.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This trailer promotes a special Thanksgiving Holiday upcoming episode with host Lynn Hoffman promoting the upcoming episode with Darryl McDaniels of Run DMC fame and Dee Snider of Twisted Sister fame as they discuss the Harry Chapin documentary-"Cats in the Cradle-The Song that changed our lives."Support the show: https://musicsavedme.net/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This episode of Across The Margin : The Podcast features an interview with film and TV producer, writer, and director Rick Korn. Rick is the co-founder of In Plain View Entertainment which specializes in creating socially conscious documentaries. Rick has produced benefit concerts with Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Sheryl Crow, Peter Frampton, Kevin Bacon, and Joan Jett (amongst others). He executive produced the documentary about Paul McCartney, My Old Friend, and in 2024, he directed and released A Father's Promise, the inspiring story of professional musician Mark Barden who lost all joy in music when his son Daniel was murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary school. Mark rewired himself and became a powerful voice and activist when he co-founded Sandy Hook Promise. Rick's latest documentary, the focus of this episode, is entitled Harry Chapin — Cat's In The Cradle: The Song That Changed Our Lives. This new documentary explores Harry Chapin's deeply affecting folk song's lasting impact on music and culture decades later. In it, reflecting on the song's universal themes of parenthood, time, and relationships, are legendary musicians Billy Joel, Pat Benatar, Judy Collins, Dee Snider (Twisted Sister), Darryl McDaniels (Run-D.M.C.), Mandy Patinkin, Robert Lamm (Chicago), Whitfield Crane (Ugly Kid Joe) and more. In this episode host Michael Shields and Rick discuss what it is about “Cat's In The Cradle” that has affected generations of people from across the world so deeply. Join in on a celebration of Harry Chapin who was more than just a singer-songwriter; he was a storyteller, activist, and humanitarian whose life and music touched the hearts of millions.The documentary will benefit WhyHunger, Long Island Cares and the Harry Chapin Foundation. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jamel Dean joins the Dogs to talk about manifesting his goals, and Jeff and Scott discuss Baker's MVP buzz, the big moments against San Francisco, Harry Chapin and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
He sings. He plays multiple instruments. He tells jokes. He writes songs. He creates music videos. He plays hockey, even at the age of 70. He's an author of short stories and novels. He's Wayne Faust, a man who hasn't held a real job in 50 years. This is part II of our conversation about those 5 decades. It's not easy to describe Wayne Faust's stage presence. He evokes shades of Harry Chapin, Jim Stafford, Steve Martin, and Ray Stevens. He dares to make audience interaction a substantial part of his show, including on-the-spot song compositions about his delighted patrons. It is easier to state that our guest has for over five decades successfully entertained people across America and overseas. Wayne is a Renaissance man whose creativity includes playing multiple instruments, composing songs that range from novelty to nostalgia to inspiring, and authoring multiple novels. Join me for a conversation with a performer who is genuine, talented, and gifted in spreading joy. Wayne Faust online presence: waynefaust.com waynefaustauthor.com (for direct link to Wayne's books) Essential Links: https://okboomer.libsyn.com/site YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ANJjEbjvP0&list=PLkRx0bBfd2KyT7PSb2RVQcGhZyPCvTarp Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/TTaudioworks/?modal=admin_todo_tour Website: https://tommytones.webnode.com/ Email: ttaudioworks@gmail.com
Mýrin, alþjóðleg barna- og unglingabókmenntahátíð hefst á morgun í Norræna húsinu. Þetta er í tólfta sinn sem hátíðin er haldin og yfirskriftin að þessu sinni er Týnd útí mýri. Áhersla er lögð á Norrænar barna- og unglingabókmenntir og lestrargleði og sköpun höfð að leiðarljósi og ýmis konar uppákomur og viðburðir verða fyrir börn, ungmenni og alla aðra sem láta sig barnabókmenntir varða. Gunnar Theodór Eggertsson rithöfundur situr í stjórn Mýrarinnar. Birna Þórarinsdóttir, framkvæmdastjóri Barnahjálpar Sameinuðu þjóðanna - UNICEF á Íslandi, er gestur okkar í dag. Við tölum við hana um aðkomu UNICEF að hjálparstarfi á Gaza eftir að samkomulag náðist um vopnahlé. Þörfin fyrir mat, lyf og önnur hjálpargögn er mikil og það hefur gengið illa að koma þeim til þeirra sem þurfa. Málbjörg, félag um stam heitir núna Stamfélag Íslands og jafnframt var hannað nýtt lógó fyrir félagið. Hönnuðurinn er Sveinn Snær Kristjánsson sem byggir hönnunina á eigin upplifun af stami. Í næstu viku, 22.okt, er alþjóðlegur vitundarvakningardagur um stam. Sveinn Snær ræði við okkur í Mannlega þættinum. Umsjón: Guðmundur Pálsson og Guðrún Gunnarsdóttir Tónlist í þættinum í dag: Einhvern tímann / Vilhjálmur Vilhjálmsson (Harry Chapin, texti Vilhjálmur Vilhjálmsson) Berg og Båre / Kari Bremnes (Lars, Kari og Ola Bremnes) Kavatína Kristínar / Uppáhellingarnir (Jón Múli Árnason, texti Jónas Árnason)
It's not easy to describe Wayne Faust's stage presence. He evokes shades of Harry Chapin, Jim Stafford, Steve Martin, and Ray Stevens. He dares to make audience interaction a substantial part of his show, including on-the-spot song compositions about his delighted patrons. It is easier to state that our guest has for over five decades has successfully entertained people across America and overseas. Wayne is a Renaissance man whose creativity includes playing multiple instruments, composing songs that range from novelty to nostalgia to inspiring, and authoring multiple novels. Join me for a conversation with a performer who is genuine, talented, and gifted in spreading joy. Part two of our conversation airs next month.
"Living is easy with eyes closed, Misunderstanding all you seeIt's getting hard to be someone but it all works outIt doesn't matter much to meLet me take you down, cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields"Please join me as we travel to places real & imagined on today's 2 hour Musical Journey back to the decade ofthe 1970's. Joining us are Billy Joel, Roxy Music, Queen, Mott The Hoople, Pink Floyd, Donovan, Rod Stewart, Harry Chapin, David Bowie, Nilsson, The Eagles, Small Faces, Mamas & Papas, Lovin' Spoonful, Talking Heads, The Police, Alan Parsons Project, Elton John, Graham Nash, Carole King, Simon & Garfunkel, Joe Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Meat Loaf, T. Rex and The Beatles.
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Send us a textJason Chapin takes us behind the curtain of his father's most enduring musical legacy. As the 50th anniversary of "Cats in the Cradle" approaches, Jason reveals the surprising true origins of the iconic song – a poem written by his mother Sandy about the distant relationship she observed between her first husband and his father.What began as an observation of family dysfunction would eventually become Harry Chapin's signature hit, though not without skepticism. "My mother told my father there's no way this is gonna be a single," Jason shares. "Back then, hit songs were not about fathers and sons." Against all expectations, the song climbed to number one, cementing its place in music history.The discussion weaves through Harry's multifaceted career, from his early days making Oscar-nominated documentaries to his late-blooming music career at age 30. Jason offers fascinating glimpses into his father's creative process, his relentless work ethic that produced 11 albums in just 10 years, and his equal dedication to humanitarian causes. We learn how Harry co-founded Why Hunger in 1975, performed approximately 100 benefit concerts annually, and became such a persistent presence lobbying Congress that lawmakers would try to avoid him – leading Harry to famously corner them in Capitol Building restrooms.This episode paints a portrait of an artist deeply committed not just to his craft, but to making tangible change in the world. Jason explains how his father's legacy continues through the new documentary "Harry Chapin: Cats in the Cradle 50th Anniversary," featuring interviews with Billy Joel, Judy Collins, Whitfield Crane from Ugly Kid Joe, and many others who've been touched by his father's music.Whether you're a longtime fan of Harry Chapin or discovering his work for the first time, this conversation offers valuable perspective on how one song can transcend generations, and how an artist's impact can extend far beyond their music. As Harry's credo reminds us: "When in doubt, do something."LinksJay Franze: https://JayFranze.com Support the show
Welcome back to another uplifting episode of the Rick's Rambles Podcast, your weekly dose of good news, music stories, and quirky fun! In this week's episode:
Randy C. Moore chats with DJ Dugan about his new single, a cover of Harry Chapin's hit song "Cat's In The Cradle". Created for an upcoming Harry Chapin Documentary, Randy dives into how he came to be apart of this wonderful opportunity.
Hosted by Jane Pauley. In our cover story, David Pogue looks at the legacy of singer-songwriter, activist and father Harry Chapin. Plus: David Martin examines the origins of the U.S. Army as it marks 250 years; Tracy Smith explores the allure of auto racing with Indy Car team co-owner David Letterman; Mo Rocca discusses a biography of entertainer Desi Arnaz, who co-starred with wife Lucille Ball in the classic sitcom “I Love Lucy”; and Conor Knighton learns the magic behind “worm grunting.” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
"Tuning in the latest starFrom the dashboard of my carCruisin' at sevenPush button heavenCapturing memories from afarIn my car, that's why God Made The Radio"So please join me on one of God's best creations, Radio. Joining us on this week's "Whole 'Nuther Thing" are Tim Buckley, The Doors, Earth Opera, Talking Heads, Elton John, The Fixx, Kinks, Police, Cat Stevens, Dan Fogelberg, Eric Clapton, The Who, Cream, Shep & The Limelights, & Harry Chapin. Additionally, we'll pay our respects to 2 of our Musical Brothers, Brian Wilson & Sly Stewart & Fatherhood.
"It was raining hard in 'FriscoI needed one more fare to make my nightA lady up ahead waved to flag me downShe got in at the light"No fare required, just 2 hours of your time. Please join me in my Yellow Cab as we explore this wondrous thing called music, but without a road map. Joining us are Simon & Garfunkel, Talking Heads, Billy Joel, Stevie Wonder, The Kinks, Rascals, Laura Nyro, Van Morrison, Billy Cobham, Pearl Jam, Led Zeppelin, Steely Dan, The Troggs, Paul Revere & The Raiders, Cream, Foo Fighters, War, The Cyrkle, Richard Harris, Earth Wind & Fire, Love, The Guess Who, Coldplay, Counting Crows and Harry Chapin...
Arlen Hlusko is an acclaimed Grammy winning Canadian cellist. She's been called “sublime”, “dynamic” and “mesmerizing”. She's performed as a soloist and a chamber musician around the world. She works with the Harry Chapin Band and the Bang On A Can All Stars. She's collaborated with Meredith Monk and David Byrne. And she even played at Sing Sing prison.My featured song is called “It's The Beat” from the album The Queen's Carnival by my band Project Grand Slam. Spotify link.---------------------------------------------The Follow Your Dream Podcast:Top 1% of all podcasts with Listeners in 200 countries!Click here for All Episodes Click here for Guest List Click here for Guest Groupings Click here for Guest TestimonialsClick here to Subscribe Click here to receive our Email UpdatesClick here to Rate and Review the podcast—----------------------------------------Connect with Arlen:www.arlenhlusko.com—----------------------------------------ROBERT'S RECENT SINGLES:“DAY AT THE RACES” is Robert's newest single.It captures the thrills, chills and pageantry of horse racing's Triple Crown. Called “Fun, Upbeat, Exciting!”CLICK HERE FOR THE OFFICIAL VIDEOCLICK HERE FOR ALL LINKS___________________“MOON SHOT” reflects my Jazz Rock Fusion roots. The track features Special Guest Mark Lettieri, 5x Grammy winning guitarist who plays with Snarky Puppy and The Fearless Flyers. The track has been called “Firey, Passionate and Smokin!”CLICK HERE FOR THE OFFICIAL VIDEOCLICK HERE FOR ALL LINKS____________________“ROUGH RIDER” has got a Cool, ‘60s, “Spaghetti Western”, Guitar-driven, Tremolo sounding, Ventures/Link Wray kind of vibe!CLICK HERE FOR THE OFFICIAL VIDEOCLICK HERE FOR ALL LINKS—--------------------------------“LOVELY GIRLIE” is a fun, Old School, rock/pop tune with 3-part harmony. It's been called “Supremely excellent!”, “Another Homerun for Robert!”, and “Love that Lovely Girlie!”Click HERE for All Links—----------------------------------“THE RICH ONES ALL STARS” is Robert's single featuring the following 8 World Class musicians: Billy Cobham (Drums), Randy Brecker (Flugelhorn), John Helliwell (Sax), Pat Coil (Piano), Peter Tiehuis (Guitar), Antonio Farao (Keys), Elliott Randall (Guitar) and David Amram (Pennywhistle).Click HERE for the Official VideoClick HERE for All Links—----------------------------------------Audio production:Jimmy RavenscroftKymera Films Connect with the Follow Your Dream Podcast:Website - www.followyourdreampodcast.comEmail Robert - robert@followyourdreampodcast.com Follow Robert's band, Project Grand Slam, and his music:Website - www.projectgrandslam.comYouTubeSpotify MusicApple MusicEmail - pgs@projectgrandslam.com
pWotD Episode 2922: Jill Sobule Welcome to Popular Wiki of the Day, spotlighting Wikipedia's most visited pages, giving you a peek into what the world is curious about today.With 207,999 views on Friday, 2 May 2025 our article of the day is Jill Sobule.Jill Sobule ( SOH-bee-ull; January 16, 1959 – May 1, 2025) was an American singer-songwriter best known for the 1995 single "I Kissed a Girl", and "Supermodel" from the soundtrack of the 1995 film Clueless. Her folk-inflected compositions alternate between ironic, story-driven character studies and emotive ballads, a duality reminiscent of such 1970s American songwriters as Warren Zevon, Harry Nilsson, Loudon Wainwright III, Harry Chapin, and Randy Newman. Autobiographical elements, including Sobule's Jewish heritage and her adolescent battles with anorexia and depression, frequently occurred in Sobule's writing.In 2009, Sobule released California Years, an album funded entirely by fan donations, making her an early pioneer of crowdfunding.This recording reflects the Wikipedia text as of 02:13 UTC on Saturday, 3 May 2025.For the full current version of the article, see Jill Sobule on Wikipedia.This podcast uses content from Wikipedia under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License.Visit our archives at wikioftheday.com and subscribe to stay updated on new episodes.Follow us on Mastodon at @wikioftheday@masto.ai.Also check out Curmudgeon's Corner, a current events podcast.Until next time, I'm standard Aditi.
"Laughing on the busPlaying games with the facesShe said the man in the gabardine suitWas a spy, I said, "Be carefulHis bow tie is really a camera"Counting the cars on the New Jersey TurnpikeThey've all come To look for America"It's here, please join me this afternoon as we reveal it's existence through a wondrous thing we call music. Joining us on are journey are Red Hot Chili Peppers, Lou Reed, Radiohead. U2, The Hollies, Beatles, Byrds, Los Bravos, RE.M. Velvet Underground, Bob James, Steely Dan, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Harry Chapin, Pat Metheny, The Wallflowers, The Mark-Almond Band, Patti Smith, The Grass Roots, Mamas & Papas and Simon & Garfunkel...
Listen to today's podcast... But the little boy said…There are so many colors in the rainbow. So many colors in the morning sun. So many colors in the flowers and I see every one. I love this song by Harry Chapin. March is Colour Therapy Month and it reminds me that soon, the snow will leave us and the amazing colours of spring will surface. These colours make me smile, they pick me up and they put the world back into perspective. Research has found that colour does impact our mood. Colour therapy itself, is an energy healing method that has been used for thousands of years. Take One Action Today To Build Your #Resiliency! Tips For Building Resiliency and Celebrating Colour Therapy Month: Deep breathing and visualization are powerful strategies that can calm and heal us. You may want to vary this by using Colour Breathing. While breathing in and out, the participant visualizes the various colours of the rainbow filling their body and then being released. Red, orange and yellow come up from the ground through the body, to the top and leave through the ground. Green is visualized coming in horizontally from the world to fill your body and then leaves out the back, while blue and violet come in from the head, to the toes and back out to the sky. Here are a couple favourites from the Colour Therapy Month website: Eat a salad that contains all 7 colors of the rainbow. Take a color therapy bath. Mix and drink your favorite colorful cocktail or fruit smoothie. Create a flower display of all the 7 rainbow colors. Looking for more tips to build your resiliency? Look for my book on Amazon called Stress Out. 52 Weeks To Letting More Life In #mentalhealth #hr
No one remembers this time capsule Harry Chapin song:Mail Order Annie, never mind your cryin',Your tears are sweet rain in my empty life.Mail Order Annie, can't you see I'm tryin'?To tell you that I'm glad you're here? You are the woman who's come to be my wife. What do YOU like getting in the mail? Head to the mailbox in this old timey episode with your witches: Shelley, Lysa and Darryl!
By the time that Led Zeppelin was releasing their sixth studio album, they were solidly on top of the rock pantheon. They had just switched to Swan Song Records, their own label, and had plenty of time to create this double album work, Physical Graffiti. They had three sides-worth of new songs largely recorded at Headley Grange in Hampshire in early 1974, and they expanded it to a double album by including unreleased tracks from sessions for their previous three albums. Physical Graffiti went to number 1 on the UK chart and number 3 on the US charts immediately. They had planned to release the album in November 1974, but delays in producing the album's sleeve design pushed it back to February 1975. Demand was so strong that it became the first album to go platinum on advance orders alone.The album itself reflects a diversity that runs from hard rock to prog rock to funk - even country and honky-tonk get represented. The group never seemed too interested in creating single-friendly compositions, so many tracks run well over 6 minutes, along with some shorter instrumental numbers. Led Zeppelin was considered the biggest rock band on tour during this time, and Physical Graffiti was the album that wrapped up this period. Robert Plant was in a serious car accident with his wife in August 1975, and the group went on hiatus from touring until 1977. Many consider this album to be the high water mark for the Led Zeppelin discography. Bruce presents this monster double album for this week's podcast. KashmirThis is one of Led Zeppelin's signature songs. It started as an instrumental recording from Jimmy Page and John Bonham. Robert Plant wrote the lyrics while vacationing in southern Morocco (not Kashmir, as no band members had been there when this song was written). John Paul Jones plays mellotron and added the orchestration which was played by session musicians. All members of the band consider it one of their best tracks, and it has played in almost every concert since its debut.Trampled Under FootThis is a funk piece largely created by John Paul Jones. The beat was inspired by Stevie Wonder's “Superstition,” and the lyrics are drawn largely from Robert Johnson's “Terraplane Blues.” Jones originally created this in the soul genre, but John Bonham convinced the group to add a more funky feel. The Wanton SongMany Led Zeppelin songs have a title which does not appear in the lyrics, and this is one of those. Jimmy Page developed the riff in 1973 and brought it to the Physical Graffiti sessions. Page uses a backward echo on this, where the echo appears before the note. It was played during the 1975 tour but was dropped from the setlist thereafter, making it perhaps a deeper cut. Houses of the HolyThis track is one of the unreleased tracks from previous sessions. It was intended as the title track from their fifth album, but was considered too similar to other songs on the album and was dropped. Led Zeppelin never played this song live. ENTERTAINMENT TRACK:Movin' On Up (Theme from the television series “The Jeffersons”) This sitcom was a spinoff from “All In the Family” which got its start in January 1975. STAFF PICKS:Any Major Dude Will Tell You by Steely DanLynch kicks off the staff picks with the B-side from “Rikki Don't Lose That Number.” Donald Fagen says that the inspiration was hearing a lot of people using the term “dude” after they moved to L.A., finding the phrase funny and deciding to include it in a song. The idea is that times will get better, and hope is around the corner.Cat's In the Cradle by Harry ChapinRob brings us a folk rock story about a father who finds the tables turned. He didn't have time for his son as he was growing up, and his son doesn't have time for his father when he is older. The lyrics were inspired by a poem written by Chapin's wife regarding her first husband's strained relationship with his father.Angie Baby by Helen ReddyWayne features another storytelling song, this one with some spookiness. Angie is a girl of questionable sanity who lives in her own world at home with her parents. When a neighborhood boy decides to make advances on her when her parents are gone, Angie causes him to disappear into the music of her radio… It was a number 1 hit song.Changes by David BowieBruce closes out the staff picks with a song that largely flopped when originally released as a single in 1971. Bowie's “Hunky Dory” album did not do well until it got a second look after his 1972 release “The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars.” It was re-released in 1975 as a single and went to number 1 in the UK. INSTRUMENTAL TRACK:Bron-Yr-Aur by Led ZeppelinWe close out with some double dipping from Physical Graffiti for this acoustic instrumental. Thanks for listening to “What the Riff?!?” NOTE: To adjust the loudness of the music or voices, you may adjust the balance on your device. VOICES are stronger in the LEFT channel, and MUSIC is stronger on the RIGHT channel.Please follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/whattheriffpodcast/, and message or email us with what you'd like to hear, what you think of the show, and any rock-worthy memes we can share.Of course we'd love for you to rate the show in your podcast platform!**NOTE: What the Riff?!? does not own the rights to any of these songs and we neither sell, nor profit from them. We share them so you can learn about them and purchase them for your own collections.
This week we talk about our favorite toys from the 80's, the album Verities and Balderdash by Harry Chapin and the movie 31.
This afternoon's program was pre-recorded before the severity of the LA wildfires was known.My thoughts and prayers go out to all that have suffered and continue to through this difficult week. My heartfelt thanks and gratitude to all the brave first responders and personnel assisting the citizens of Los Angeles."It was raining hard in 'FriscoI needed one more fare to make my nightA lady up ahead waved to flag me downShe got in at the light"Today's program features tuneage from Nick Drake, Bob Seger, Fleetwood Mac, Bob Dylan, Humble Pie, The Police, Doobie Brothers, Doors, Eagles, Led Zeppelin, Toto, Poco, Van Morrison, Dobie Gray, Neil Young, Dave Mason, Dire Straits, Tom Petty, Wings, Nilsson, Lou Reed, Joni Mitchell and Harry Chapin.
Pearl Harbor Remembrance day. Entertainment from 2003. Deleware became the 1st state, Jet stream discovered, 1st instant replay used, 1st execution by lethal injection. Todays birthdays - Clarence Nash, Ted Knight, Ellen Burstyn, Harry Chapin, Gary Mooris, C, Thomas Howell, Sara Bareilles. Chuck Yeager died.Intro - Pour some sugar on me - Def Leppard http://defleppard.com/Stand up - Lucacris feat. ShawnaI love this bar - Taby KeithBirthday - The BeatlesBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/Donald Duck theme songI'm alright - Kenny LogginsCats in the cradle - Harry ChapinBaby bye bye - Gary MorrisLove song - Sara BareillesExit - It's not love - Dokken http://dokken.net/
Detroit Tigers advance to the ALDS after beating the Astros, 120 Diddy accusers, Vice Presidential debate snoozefest, Frankie Valli forced to release a statement, Drew Crime: ASU stabbing, Maz caught in two lies, and Stuttering John thinks he hotter than Drew. The Tigers eliminate the Houston Astros and head to Cleveland to face the Indians Guardians in the ALDS. Tom Mazawey tried to assert his friendship dominance of Kirk Gibson over Drew Lane. Stuttering John believes he is hotter than Drew Lane. Dane Cook shows are getting CANCELED left and right. His Detroit Facebook post re-appeared because he sponsored it before he deleted it… and the comments are nasty. Ryan Ermanni joins the show to talk up the Tigers and call out Tom Mazawey's vicious lies. Tony Buzbee is teasing dropping big names connected to Diddy. He is representing 120 victims. Denzel Washington once stormed out of a Diddy freak off. A new doc on the tales of Chris Brown is on it's way. A race war has erupted in the WNBA! Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird pop off on the topic and Christine Brennan. Israel and Iran are fighting with each other. This Palestinian has the worst luck possibly ever as an exploded rocket falls out of the sky right where he was walking. Politics: The Vide Presidential Debate happened. JD Vance wears too much guy-liner. Tim Walz loves “school shooters”. The “new masculinity” mascot Doug Emhoff allegedly exhibited some toxic masculinity on his ex-girlfriend. Dan Lewis is quitting his acting retirement to perform in son's movie. His other kid has way too many hyphens. Seriously… who is hotter? Drew Lane or Stuttering John? There's only one official way to find out- Vote now. Francesco Iaquinta loves porn so much he watches while working as a substitute teacher. A student at Arizona State performed a premeditated knife attack on a random student. Matthew McCormick is a hero, but we fear he'll be friend-zoned. Travis Kelce is a game show host now that love finger guns. Music: Frankie Valli was forced to release a statement saying he's not being forced to perform. Another low energy video of Frankie dropped where he's faking everything again. Nicky Hopkins has his own doc coming called The Session Man. Harry Chapin and Drew vs Mr. Tanner. The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is racist to Spanish-speaking bands. Pink Floyd sells its music rights catalog for $400M. Rashee Rice's mom is busted stealing Chappell Roan records from her neighbor. Miami Dolphin Tyreek Hill is being a baby because his lousy QB won't throw him the ball. A few people cancel Netflix because their chairman gave money to Kamala Harris. Vince McMahon's accusations are disgusting. Some people are saying Jim Bentley is sandbagging. Visit Our Presenting Sponsor Hall Financial – Michigan's highest rated mortgage company. If you'd like to help support the show… consider subscribing to our YouTube Channel, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (The Drew Lane Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels, Jim Bentley and BranDon).
A Theme Time special on Celebrity and Fame.Episode includes Brad Paisley, Janis Ian, Joni Mitchell, Dr. Hook and Harry Chapin.
Join Professor Aubrey and Tim the Nerd in Episode 364 as they wrap up their engaging discussion on albums released in 1974, the year Professor Aubrey was born. This episode features a deep dive into the music of iconic artists like Barry White, Harry Chapin, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Tina Turner, Jackson 5, Joe Cocker, Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes, Carole King, Barry Manilow, John Lennon, The Rolling Stones, Supertramp, Bob Marley and the Wailers, Al Green, Queen, Sweet, Linda Ronstadt, and Grand Funk Railroad. The hosts also tackle current events, discussing the implications of Donald Trump being a convicted felon. Lastly, they delve into the recently remastered version of the Beatles documentary “Let It Be,” which debuted on Disney Plus, comparing it to Peter Jackson's documentary “Get Back,” created with unused footage from the original film. Tune in for a mix of music history, contemporary news, and film analysis! As always, we wish to thank Christopher Lazarek for his wonderful theme song. Head to his website for information on how to purchase his EP, Here's To You, which is available on all digital platforms. Support our sponsor, Coffee Bros. Head to their website and when you make an order, put in promo code FTN10 to save 10% on your order. Head to our Linktree for more information on where to find us online. Friends Talking Nerdy is a proud member of the Deluxe Edition Network. Head to their website to find out more information about all the shows available on the Network. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ftnerdy/message
[originally published on Patreon March 15, 2024] Today is the opening salvo for a 15-part series on the rolling waves of crimes involving the Octopus that is United Fruit Company, the banana trade, Guatemala specifically, and Central America more generally, culminating in the Guatemalan Genocide. In this episode, I discuss the origins of the Octopus. aka Boston Fruit Company aka the United Fruit Company aka the New Orleans Banana Trust. I know for a fact that much of this history has not been pulled together in this way before. I trace the official and sanctioned history of Boston Fruit Company via Lorenzo Dow Baker, Andrew Preston, and get into less savory types such as Henry Meiggs and JP Macheca. I cover how Preston and Meiggs used railroad construction as land-grab exercises which also necessarily required slave labor. This in turn spawned the Banana Wars including an approximate 28 different interventions/invasions in 11+ countries. Along the way I go over the Innocenti and related quasi-masonic quasi-klan terrorist groups, the Reconstruction-era wars with the federal government, the growth of Italian/Italian-American organized crime, the Crescent City Lynchings, and how it all intersected with the fruit trade. Here we see con men and mafiosi in bed with Wall Street, fucking over Central America in unison. This sets the stage for what is to come. Banana In Your Fruit Basket by Bo Carter I Like Bananas Because They have No Bones by George Elrick Thirty Thousand Pounds of Bananas by Harry Chapin
On this episode, Laura Chandler talks with Rick Korn, director of the new documentary, A Father's Promise, about musician and gun violence prevention advocate, Mark Barden. Mark lost his son, Daniel, in the Sandy Hook School Shooting. Rick is a film and TV producer, writer, and director that works with entertainment companies on creating socially conscious documentaries. He has worked on many award-winning productions, including the Peabody Award winning documentary, Hank Aaron: Chasing the Dream. He has produced benefit concerts with Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Eric Clapton, and Joan Jett to name a few. Rick, along with his business partner S.A. Baron, formed the production company, In Plain View Entertainment, and in 2020 they released a film about activist and musician Harry Chapin, Harry Chapin: When in Doubt, Do Something. A Father's Promise is a moving portrayal of Mark Barden's healing journey through music and activism. Learn more about Rick Korn and his film at afatherspromisefilm.com.
This week, Ryan and Patrick speak to legendary drummer and producer, Russ Kunkel about his incredible career working with Bill Withers, Jackson Browne, Joni Mitchell, Jimmy Buffett, Harry Chapin, Rita Coolidge, Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Cass Elliot, Dan Fogelberg, Glenn Frey, Art Garfunkel, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Carole King, Lyle Lovett
TVC 642.6: Emmy nominated writer Shelley Herman talks to Ed about meeting singer Harry Chapin backstage at The Tonight Show, one night after seeing him perform live at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles; the time when she was a “life line” to Adam West when he appeared in a “celebrity week” version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire; and some of the crazy antics that happened behind the scenes of NBC's coverage of the Tournament of Roses Parade. Shelley's memoir, My Peacock Tale : Secrets Of An NBC Page, is available from Bear Manor Media. Want to advertise/sponsor our show? TV Confidential has partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle advertising/sponsorship requests for the podcast edition of our program. They're great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started: https://www.advertisecast.com/TVConfidentialAradiotalkshowabout Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week, Rich and Clint return to "most profound lyrics," with some great suggestions from listeners and regular guests, including Kelli O'Hara (currently starring on Broadway in Days Of Wine & Roses), Will Evans, Josh Panda, Jack Gauthier, Rian Alfiero and many more. The episode explores examples of lyrics that somehow distill the human experience down to a simple phrase. Artists discussed include The Rolling Stones, They Might Be Giants, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Kris Kristofferson, Harry Chapin, Dave Matthews, Dawes, The Police, Phish, James Taylor, Paul Simon, Ray Lamontagne, Rush, Steely Dan and more. Proudly part of Pantheon Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week, Rich and Clint return to "most profound lyrics," with some great suggestions from listeners and regular guests, including Kelli O'Hara (currently starring on Broadway in Days Of Wine & Roses), Will Evans, Josh Panda, Jack Gauthier, Rian Alfiero and many more. The episode explores examples of lyrics that somehow distill the human experience down to a simple phrase. Artists discussed include The Rolling Stones, They Might Be Giants, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Kris Kristofferson, Harry Chapin, Dave Matthews, Dawes, The Police, Phish, James Taylor, Paul Simon, Ray Lamontagne, Rush, Steely Dan and more. Proudly part of Pantheon Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The year 1974 shoulder much of the blame for the so-called worst music of not only the 1970s, but the worst of all time. Is this true? While we know that 1974 had much good to offer, is it true that it also had the worst of the worst? If so, does it matter. This episode takes a closer look at some songs considered the all-time worst, including "Seasons in the Sun" by Terry Jacks, "Cat's in the Cradle," by Harry Chapin, and "Billy, Don't Be a Hero" by Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods.
Our Media Path takes us to the influential and iconic 70s when Paul McCartney & Wings flew over Europe, The UK, and The World, lifted by the guitar mastery of Laurence Juber and when studio pages roamed the NBC hallways, collecting memorable celebrity encounters and handing gift cards to Johnny Carson.Former page, Shelley Herman is an Emmy-Nominated TV writer who has penned a delicious tell-all about her page years called, My Peacock Tale: Secrets of An NBC Page. It's stuffed with dishy stories about Robin Williams, Andy Kaufman, Ringo Starr, Johnny Cash, Jimmy Stewart, Harry Chapin, and Lucille Ball. As a page, Shelley pulled from her arsenal of wit, charm, courage and grit to navigate moody celebs, exacting execs and the occasional #MeToo, brutish assault. All in a polyester skirt and close toed shoes. Her book will enrich, amuse and inspire you!Then Laurence and Hope Juber fill our studio with their love for each other and for their talented daughters, Ilsey and Nico Juber. Their “How We Met” story is a bright light of fate, destiny, spiritual intervention and Beatles! Your jaw will plummet. Stretch first. The Jubers are a show biz dynasty. Hope's dad, Sherwood Schwartz is the celebrated mind behind Gilligan's Island and The Brady Bunch. She played Greg Brady's girlfriend, she heads up a band called The Nasty Housewives, and she produced Laurence's latest album, recorded at Abbey Road Studios, A Day In My Life.Laurence is a Grammy winning guitarist, recording artist, composer and arranger. AND, he was Fritz's bandleader on his late night comedy show, It's Fritz. So, these two are diving into some catching up. And then, Laurence serenades us with a little Blackbird.Also, Fritz and Weezy are recommending Frontline's The Harvest: Integrating Mississippi's Schools on PBS and Feud: Capote VS. The Swans, available on several platforms, including Hulu, and YouTube.Path Points of Interest:Laurence Juber Laurence Juber on SpotifyA Day in My Life (Recorded at Abbey Road)A Day In My Life VinylThe Evolution of Fingerstyle Guitar by Laurence JuberGuitar With Wings by Laurence JuberLaurence Juber on FacebookLaurence Juber on InstagramHope JuberIlsey JuberNico JuberShelley HermanMy Peacock Tale by Shelley HermanShelley Herman on FacebookShelley Herman on InstagramAmerican Experience - The Harvest: Integrating Mississippi's SchoolsFeud: Capote VS. The Swans
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What do you do when you are a widow, a writer, and you want to tell stories about other widows who just happen to have been the partners of actual rock stars? Well, that's what Lori Tucker-Sullivan has done in her book "I Can't Remember If I Cried: Rock Widows on Life, Love, and Legacy." Join Anita and Mel as they learn more about Lori, her story, and how she's telling the stories of other widows. Among those interviewed in Lori's book are:Judy VanZant who, after losing husband Ronnie of Lynryd Skynyrd, sued the re-formed band in order to protect her interests.Sandy Chapin, widow of Harry Chapin, who has worked tirelessly to uphold Harry's significant legacy around activism and hunger prevention.Crystal Zevon, the ex-wife of Warren Zevon, who provides details of her abusive relationship with Warren and how she resolved her anger and grief.Jamie Weiland, widow of Stone Temple Pilots' Scott Weiland, speaking openly of Scott's mental illness, which at times kept him housebound for days.Janna Leblanc, widow of Stevie Ray Vaughn, who shares the details of her visits with Stevie in rehab.Help us keep the Widow We Do Now podcast going!http://www.patreon.com/wwdnWant to buy us some tacos?https://www.buymeacoffee.com/widowwedonowSponsored by:Rock House Financial & the podcast: He's Gone But The Money's Nothttps://rockhousefinancial.com/podcasts/BetterHelp.com. Save 10% off the first month of online therapy done securely, online with our unique link: https://trybetterhelp.com/wwdnMint Mobile: Mobile phone plans with great service and coverage starting at $15/month https://trymintmobile.com/wwdn
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