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Loveland Libcast
LOVEland Cookbook Group (February 2023) Soul Food with Author Adrian Miller

Loveland Libcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2023 31:02


In celebration of Black History Month, Daniel and Ashlee are joined by author Adrian Miller to discuss his book Soul Food: the surprising story of an American cuisine, one plate at a time. Recipe kits to go along with Soul Food will be available on Feburary 9th while supplies last- this month's kit is for Minnie Utsey's “Never Fail” Cornbread. Cookbooks and Food History Books Mentioned: The Jemima Code by Toni Tipton-Martin Koshersoul by Michael Twitty Tanya Holland's California Soul by Tanya Holland High on the Hog by Jessica B Harris Homage by Chris Scott Black Food by Bryant Terry Other Reads: The Ravenmaster by Christopher Skaife Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami 

So You Want To Be A Writer with Valerie Khoo and Allison Tait: Australian Writers' Centre podcast
WRITER 524: Luke Rutledge on his novel 'A Man and His Pride'.

So You Want To Be A Writer with Valerie Khoo and Allison Tait: Australian Writers' Centre podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2023 40:15


Meet Luke Rutledge, author of A Man and His Pride. Does visualising your book goal actually work? What's an oronym? And win Novelist as a Vocation by Haruki Murakami. Read the show notes Connect with Valerie and listeners in the podcast community on Facebook Visit WritersCentre.com.au | ValerieKhoo.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

TreeHouseLetter
Punch In, Punch Out: the Profession and the Side Hustle

TreeHouseLetter

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2023 6:49


Many authors publish one or two novels; few write full-time. Fewer write for a life-time. Excerpts and ideas from Haruki Murakami's memoir and essay collection, Novelist as a Vocation. On creativity, originality, and his writing process.

Studio B - Lobpreisung und Verriss (Ein Literaturmagazin)

Meine bisherigen Erfahrungen mit japanischen Autorinnen und Autoren beschränkten sich aktuell leider nur auf Banana Yoshimoto und Haruki Murakami, von denen ich zwar jeweils einige Bücher gelesen hatte – Yoshimoto auch rezensiert – aber über die ich eben noch nicht hinaus gekommen war. Eine willkommene Abwechslung und ein guter Start ins Lesejahr 2023 war daher die Empfehlung, Sayaka Murata zu lesen, die ich kürzlich bekam. Gespannt, ob Die Ladenhüterin, welches bereits 2016 im Original erschien und 2018 im Aufbau Verlag in deutscher Ausgabe veröffentlicht wurde, ähnlich schräg sein würde, wie es meine bisherigen rudimentären Erlebnisse mit der japanischen Literatur waren, widmete ich mich diesem schmalen Roman.Protagonistin und Ich-Erzählerin ist die 36-jährige Keiko Furukura, die bereits seit über 18 Jahren in einem Convenience Store arbeitet, der rund um die Uhr, an sieben Tagen die Woche geöffnet hat und welche in Japan kurz Konbini genannt werden. Über ihren Beginn als Arbeitskraft in dem Markt sagt sie folgendes: „Mein erster Tag im Konbini war mein Geburtstag als normales Mitglied der Gesellschaft.“ (S. 22) Hintergrund dieser befremdlichen Formulierung ist die Tatsache, dass Keiko sich bereits seit ihrer Kindheit als nicht normal fühlt und ihr permanent von ihrer Umgebung dieses Gefühl vermittelt wird. Dies wird dem Lesenden in Rückblicken auf ihre Kindheit deutlich gemacht. Als sie beispielsweise als Kind einmal einen toten Vogel findet und ihn ihrer Mutter bringt, möchte diese ihn beerdigen. Keiko versteht allerdings nicht, warum man ihn nicht stattdessen essen soll – ihr Vater mag doch so gern gegrilltes Geflügel. Um ihren Eltern keinen Kummer mehr zu bereiten und nicht weiter aufzufallen, entschließt sie sich eines Tages zu folgendem drastischen Schritt: „Ich tat nur noch, was die anderen taten, folgte allen Anweisungen und stellte so gut wie jede eigene Lebensäußerung ein.“ (S. 14) So schafft sie es auch durch ihr Studium, wobei sie auch hier keine neuen Kontakte aufbaut. Erst als Mitarbeiterin im Konbini fühlt sie sich als brauchbares Mitglied der Gesellschaft. Die Geräusche des Marktes hat sie auch zu Hause noch im Ohr und sie beruhigen sie und helfen ihr einzuschlafen. Zudem hat sie sich angewöhnt, die Stimmen ihrer Kolleginnen zu imitieren oder auch deren Kleidungsstil nachzuahmen. Zudem meint sie selbiges Verhalten auch bei ihren Kolleginnen und deren Freundinnen zu beobachten und stellt fest: „Diese Art der Anpassung macht offenbar einen großen Teil unseres Mensch-Seins aus.“ (S. 28)Sayaka Murata führt uns anhand des kleinen Systems Konbini und ihrer Protagonistin vor Augen, dass Anders-Sein in der japanischen Kultur nicht erwünscht ist. Gefühle und Verhalten, die nicht der Norm entsprechen, sind etwas Negatives, das nicht verstanden wird und als eine Art Krankheit empfunden wird, die es zu heilen gilt. Jeder hat seine Funktion und so fühlt sich auch Keiko nie wohler als in jenen Momenten, in denen sie sich als kleines Rädchen in der täglich neuen Geschäftigkeit der Welt spürt und als Individuum möglichst gar nicht auffällt. Es gibt nur zwei Probleme: Sie ist eine Frau und sie ist nicht mehr jung. Während ihr Aushilfsjob während ihres Studiums völlig legitim war, stellt sich nun, da sie bereits 36 ist, die Frage, warum sie keinen vollwertigen Beruf hat oder verheiratet ist und gar nicht mehr arbeitet. In Japan gelten Frauen, die mit über 30 noch nicht verheiratet sind, nach wie vor als Verlierer. Sind sie verheiratet und haben auch Kinder, ist es die Aufgabe der Frau, diese zu versorgen und sich um den Haushalt zu kümmern, was sich mit beruflichem Erfolg oft nicht vereinbaren lässt.Keiko kann jedoch nichts davon vorweisen, weshalb sie sich immer häufiger Fragen anhören muss, warum sie keinen Partner oder einen anderen Job hat. Dabei scheint sie an Männern oder sexuellen Beziehungen im Allgemeinen gar kein Interesse zu haben und die Arbeit im Konbini füllt sie so aus, dass sie sich mit Hilfe ihrer Schwester Ausreden ausdenkt, weshalb sie keine andere Arbeit verrichten kann. Schließlich lernt sie Shiraha kennen, einen Mann Mitte 30, der zunächst ebenfalls im Konbini arbeitet, seine Anstellung aber aufgrund seiner Faulheit und seines respektlosen Verhaltens schnell wieder verliert. Die Meinung ihres Chefs und ihrer Kolleginnen über Shiraha fällt folgendermaßen aus: „Aus dem wird nichts mehr. Er ist erledigt. Eine Last für die Gesellschaft. Der Mensch hat die Pflicht, ein nützliches Mitglied der Gesellschaft zu werden, indem er einen Beruf ergreift oder eine Familie gründet. Oder beides.“(S.59/60) Shiraha, der zwar das System kritisiert und der Meinung ist, dass sich seit der Jōmon-Zeit in Japan nichts verändert hat, ist aber letztlich ein Nutznießer Keikos' Großzügigkeit und lässt sich von ihr durchfüttern, als sie ihn bei sich aufnimmt. Obwohl sie beide nicht der Norm entsprechen, kritisiert er sie ständig und macht sie zum Puffer seiner eigenen Unzufriedenheit. Keiko hingegen scheint mit ihrem Leben im Konbini zufrieden zu sein, sie hat keinen hohen Ansprüche und ist es leid, sich ständig für ihr Leben rechtfertigen zu müssen: „Wie lästig, warum brauchten die anderen zu ihrer eigenen Beruhigung ständig Erklärungen?“ (S. 39)Die Themen, die Sayaka Murata in ihrem Roman zur Sprache bringt, sind aber kein ausschließlich japanisches Phänomen. Die Frage nach dem „Was ist eigentlich normal?“ mag zwar immer auch in Abhängigkeit zum eigenen Kulturkreis stehen, letztlich beantwortet sie aber jeder für sich selbst. In Keikos Fall entsteht ihr Gefühl des Nicht-Normal-Seins ja gar nicht aus ihr selbst heraus, sondern aus ihrem Umfeld. Was im Umkehrschluss vielleicht zeigt, wie merkwürdig doch diejenigen sind, die sich für normal halten. Murata macht uns aber auch auf das starre Rollensystem ihres Landes aufmerksam, das es Menschen schwer macht, individuell zu sein.Ein Ladenhüter ist ein Artikel, der sich schlecht oder fast gar nicht verkauft und indem Muratas Roman im Deutschen Die Ladenhüterin heißt, bekommt er gleich eine doppelte Bedeutung. Keiko, die in Bezug auf Partnerschaft und Ehe ein Ladenhüter ist, die aber auch eine Hüterin des Konbini, also eines Ladens, ist. Ein Roman, der zunächst vielleicht etwas befremdlich anmuten mag, aber in seiner Kürze, Prägnanz und Klugheit das Panorama einer Gesellschaft entfaltet und ohne großen Spannungsbogen in seinen Bann zieht und zum Nachdenken anregt. Eine ausgesprochene Empfehlung. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit lobundverriss.substack.com

Serially Hooked
The Weekly Hook 44: Haruki Murakami

Serially Hooked

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2023 32:54


For the second time in a row, Chris talks about one of his favorite authors of all time: Haruki Murakami. Another author whose every work Chris has read, Murakami has written many books through the decades. Chris goes through his favorite ones and discusses why Murakami's style is so affecting. Chris also recommends where to start reading Murakami - and gives a requisite Serially Hookes Top 4. For what is life without Top 4's? Connect with us at https://www.seriallyhooked.com and on Twitter @seriallyhooked (Https://twitter.com/seriallyhooked).

Why Is This Good?
095: “On Seeing the 100% Perfect Girl One Beautiful April Morning” by Haruki Murakami

Why Is This Good?

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2023 24:22


If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining our Patreon. Your support helps us keep the show running. Find out more at http://www.patreon.com/whyisthisgoodpodcast In this episode, we discuss “On Seeing the 100% Perfect Girl One Beautiful April Morning” by Haruki Murakami. What can we learn from this simple tale? How can a story be driven by […]

Chapter 3 Podcast - For Readers of Sci-Fi, Fantasy & Romance
S2E32 | 2022 Best & Worst Books of the Year

Chapter 3 Podcast - For Readers of Sci-Fi, Fantasy & Romance

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2022 70:16


Join Bethany, Liene, and Izzy as they look back at the best and worst books of 2022! We talk about our favorites that we read, and the books we hated.   Looking for a book mentioned in the episode? Check here! *Note that all links are affiliate links from which we earn a commission to support the podcast   Books BEST The Paper Menagerie by Ken Liu: https://amzn.to/3Vb7Mqw Skip & Loafer by Misaki Takamatsu: https://amzn.to/3FPKIrM Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer: https://amzn.to/3BOURni The Cuckoo by Leo Carew: https://amzn.to/3G4MMNQ Again by J.L. Seegars: https://amzn.to/3POyzYv Siren Queen by Nghi Vo: https://amzn.to/3v6Ruo0 Jade City by Fonda Lee: https://amzn.to/3WyqKZi Delilah Green Doesn't Care by Ashley Herring Blake: https://amzn.to/3YAaXuG A Caribbean Heiress in Paris by Adriana Herrera: https://amzn.to/3G2Mi9R Carry On by Rainbow Rowell: https://amzn.to/3BP4u5w The Vicious Lost Boys series? Nikki St. Crowe: https://amzn.to/3v2BDqm All My Rage by Sabaa Tahir: https://amzn.to/3HR4XI8   WORST Empire of the Vampire by Jay Kristoff: https://amzn.to/3FKQlaj Taken by the Snowmen by Maggie Alabaster: https://amzn.to/3BMz5Ra Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir: https://amzn.to/3PDX0I8 Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami: https://amzn.to/3PEMhx8 Under One Roof Novellas by Ali Hazelwood: https://amzn.to/3hH78TK Verity by Colleen Hoover: https://amzn.to/3hD8TRW Darling Girl by Liz Michalski: https://amzn.to/3YAIh4O Haunting Adeline by H.D. Carlton: https://amzn.to/3Wd9A3z Zodiac Academy: The Awakening by Caroline Peckham & Susanne Valenti: https://amzn.to/3Wwo3qV   Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and TikTok @Chapter3Podcast or watch episodes on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy6yRiktWbWRAFpByrVk-kg Interested in early access to episodes, private Discord channels and other perks? Consider joining the Chapter 3 Patreon!  Co-Hosts  Bethany: https://www.youtube.com/c/beautifullybookishbethany Liene: https://www.youtube.com/c/LienesLibrary Izzy: https://www.youtube.com/c/HappyforNow

New Books in Japanese Studies
Jonathan Dil, "Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement" (Bloomsbury, 2022)

New Books in Japanese Studies

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2022 55:25


Haruki Murakami, a global literary phenomenon, has said that he started writing fiction as a means of self-therapy. What he has not discussed as much is what he needed self-therapy for. This book argues that by understanding more about why Murakami writes, and by linking this with the question of how he writes, readers can better understand what he writes. Murakami's fiction, in other words, can be read as a search for self-therapy.  In five chapters which explore Murakami's fourteen novels to date, Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement (Bloomsbury, 2022) argues that there are four prominent therapeutic threads woven through Murakami's fiction that can be traced back to his personal traumas - most notably Murakami's falling out with his late father and the death of a former girlfriend – and which have also transcended them in significant ways as they have been transformed into literary fiction. The first thread looks at the way melancholia must be worked through for mourning to occur and healing to happen; the second thread looks at how symbolic acts of sacrifice can help to heal intergenerational trauma; the third thread looks at the way people with avoidant attachment styles can begin to open themselves up to love again; the fourth thread looks at how individuation can manifest as a response to nihilism. Meticulously researched and written with sensitivity, the result is a sophisticated exploration of Murakami's published novels as an evolving therapeutic project that will be of great value to all scholars of Japanese literature and culture. Jingyi Li is a PhD Candidate in Japanese History at the University of Arizona. She researches about early modern Japan, literati, and commercial publishing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/japanese-studies

New Books in Literary Studies
Jonathan Dil, "Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement" (Bloomsbury, 2022)

New Books in Literary Studies

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2022 55:25


Haruki Murakami, a global literary phenomenon, has said that he started writing fiction as a means of self-therapy. What he has not discussed as much is what he needed self-therapy for. This book argues that by understanding more about why Murakami writes, and by linking this with the question of how he writes, readers can better understand what he writes. Murakami's fiction, in other words, can be read as a search for self-therapy.  In five chapters which explore Murakami's fourteen novels to date, Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement (Bloomsbury, 2022) argues that there are four prominent therapeutic threads woven through Murakami's fiction that can be traced back to his personal traumas - most notably Murakami's falling out with his late father and the death of a former girlfriend – and which have also transcended them in significant ways as they have been transformed into literary fiction. The first thread looks at the way melancholia must be worked through for mourning to occur and healing to happen; the second thread looks at how symbolic acts of sacrifice can help to heal intergenerational trauma; the third thread looks at the way people with avoidant attachment styles can begin to open themselves up to love again; the fourth thread looks at how individuation can manifest as a response to nihilism. Meticulously researched and written with sensitivity, the result is a sophisticated exploration of Murakami's published novels as an evolving therapeutic project that will be of great value to all scholars of Japanese literature and culture. Jingyi Li is a PhD Candidate in Japanese History at the University of Arizona. She researches about early modern Japan, literati, and commercial publishing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/literary-studies

New Books in East Asian Studies
Jonathan Dil, "Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement" (Bloomsbury, 2022)

New Books in East Asian Studies

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2022 55:25


Haruki Murakami, a global literary phenomenon, has said that he started writing fiction as a means of self-therapy. What he has not discussed as much is what he needed self-therapy for. This book argues that by understanding more about why Murakami writes, and by linking this with the question of how he writes, readers can better understand what he writes. Murakami's fiction, in other words, can be read as a search for self-therapy.  In five chapters which explore Murakami's fourteen novels to date, Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement (Bloomsbury, 2022) argues that there are four prominent therapeutic threads woven through Murakami's fiction that can be traced back to his personal traumas - most notably Murakami's falling out with his late father and the death of a former girlfriend – and which have also transcended them in significant ways as they have been transformed into literary fiction. The first thread looks at the way melancholia must be worked through for mourning to occur and healing to happen; the second thread looks at how symbolic acts of sacrifice can help to heal intergenerational trauma; the third thread looks at the way people with avoidant attachment styles can begin to open themselves up to love again; the fourth thread looks at how individuation can manifest as a response to nihilism. Meticulously researched and written with sensitivity, the result is a sophisticated exploration of Murakami's published novels as an evolving therapeutic project that will be of great value to all scholars of Japanese literature and culture. Jingyi Li is a PhD Candidate in Japanese History at the University of Arizona. She researches about early modern Japan, literati, and commercial publishing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/east-asian-studies

New Books Network
Jonathan Dil, "Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement" (Bloomsbury, 2022)

New Books Network

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2022 55:25


Haruki Murakami, a global literary phenomenon, has said that he started writing fiction as a means of self-therapy. What he has not discussed as much is what he needed self-therapy for. This book argues that by understanding more about why Murakami writes, and by linking this with the question of how he writes, readers can better understand what he writes. Murakami's fiction, in other words, can be read as a search for self-therapy.  In five chapters which explore Murakami's fourteen novels to date, Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement (Bloomsbury, 2022) argues that there are four prominent therapeutic threads woven through Murakami's fiction that can be traced back to his personal traumas - most notably Murakami's falling out with his late father and the death of a former girlfriend – and which have also transcended them in significant ways as they have been transformed into literary fiction. The first thread looks at the way melancholia must be worked through for mourning to occur and healing to happen; the second thread looks at how symbolic acts of sacrifice can help to heal intergenerational trauma; the third thread looks at the way people with avoidant attachment styles can begin to open themselves up to love again; the fourth thread looks at how individuation can manifest as a response to nihilism. Meticulously researched and written with sensitivity, the result is a sophisticated exploration of Murakami's published novels as an evolving therapeutic project that will be of great value to all scholars of Japanese literature and culture. Jingyi Li is a PhD Candidate in Japanese History at the University of Arizona. She researches about early modern Japan, literati, and commercial publishing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

New Books in Psychology
Jonathan Dil, "Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement" (Bloomsbury, 2022)

New Books in Psychology

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2022 55:25


Haruki Murakami, a global literary phenomenon, has said that he started writing fiction as a means of self-therapy. What he has not discussed as much is what he needed self-therapy for. This book argues that by understanding more about why Murakami writes, and by linking this with the question of how he writes, readers can better understand what he writes. Murakami's fiction, in other words, can be read as a search for self-therapy.  In five chapters which explore Murakami's fourteen novels to date, Haruki Murakami and the Search for Self-Therapy: Stories from the Second Basement (Bloomsbury, 2022) argues that there are four prominent therapeutic threads woven through Murakami's fiction that can be traced back to his personal traumas - most notably Murakami's falling out with his late father and the death of a former girlfriend – and which have also transcended them in significant ways as they have been transformed into literary fiction. The first thread looks at the way melancholia must be worked through for mourning to occur and healing to happen; the second thread looks at how symbolic acts of sacrifice can help to heal intergenerational trauma; the third thread looks at the way people with avoidant attachment styles can begin to open themselves up to love again; the fourth thread looks at how individuation can manifest as a response to nihilism. Meticulously researched and written with sensitivity, the result is a sophisticated exploration of Murakami's published novels as an evolving therapeutic project that will be of great value to all scholars of Japanese literature and culture. Jingyi Li is a PhD Candidate in Japanese History at the University of Arizona. She researches about early modern Japan, literati, and commercial publishing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/psychology

Drunken Pen Writing Podcast
#119: Name That Author!

Drunken Pen Writing Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2022 63:29


In this episode, we are doing something different. We're playing a game! More specifically, Name That Author! The rules of the game are simple. Caleb has given Spencer a long list of authors and as he reads a random excerpt from the work of those authors, it's up to Spencer to see if he can guess who wrote what. If you'd like to play along, here is the list: Kurt Vonnegut, David Foster Wallace, Haruki Murakami, James Joyce, Anthony Burgess, Yukio Mishima, Cormac McCarthy, Natsume Soseki, Stephen King, Ryu Murakami, Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Paul E. Cooley, Bram Stoker, J.D. Salinger, Chinua Achebe, Andy Weir, Walt Whitman, H.P. Lovecraft, H.G. Wells, Edgar Allan Poe, F. Scott Fitzgerald, J.R.R. Tolkien, Máirtín Ó Cadhain, Nicolás Obregón

Spectrum Culture's Podcast
Episode 76: “Look Like a Wind-up Bird” (featuring Amanda Shires)

Spectrum Culture's Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2022 69:10


In this episode, David Harris, Holly Hazelwood and Eric Mellor are joined by special guest, author Michelle Ruiz Keil, to discuss the work of author Haruki Murakami. Support the show

RNZ: Nine To Noon
Book review: Novelist as a Vocation by Haruki Murakami

RNZ: Nine To Noon

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2022 6:00


Phil Vine reviews Novelist as a Vocation by Haruki Murakami, published by Penguin Random House.

How to English: Teach and Learn with Gav & Em
23. SPOTIFY VIDEO Book Club - Featuring Andrew at what_to_read_next and Dara at AppliedESL (transcribed)

How to English: Teach and Learn with Gav & Em

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2022 42:24


What's a book club? Do you belong to one? How do your start your own? With special guests Andrew from what_to_read_next and Dara at AppliedESL we explore the fascinating world of kids' books, adult fiction, subgenres, and street signs. On Gav and Em's How to English Pod. Transcription with audio: Andrew's link: https://www.instagram.com/what_to_read_next/ Dara's link: https://www.instagram.com/appliedesl/ Dara's Books: https://www.amazon.com/Dara-K.-Fulton/e/B0879B8Y1H Other resources: David Long: http://www.davidlong.info/books.html Tom Palmer: https://tompalmer.co.uk/ Vashti Hardy: https://www.vashtihardy.com/landing-ethan The Literary Trust: https://literacytrust.org.uk/ https://ihteachenglish.com/blog-post/how-run-efl-book-club https://bookstr.com/article/obscure-book-genres-you-may-not-know/ Em's Book recommendations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_on_the_Edge_of_Time https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51648276-drive-your-plow-over-the-bones-of-the-dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruki_Murakami

Selected Shorts
Prove Your Love

Selected Shorts

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2022 57:26 Very Popular


Meg Wolitzer presents a show of stories about our need to have “proof of love”—some demonstration by those nearest and dearest of exactly how much they care.  A lot, in Etgar Keret's sweetly improbable “Almost Everything,” in which a husband looks for the perfect gift for a demanding wife.  It's read by Liev Schreiber.  In Jacob Guajardo's “Conquistadors, on Fairchild,” read by Michael Hartney, old flames reconnect, but it's not clear where they are headed.And in a classic from our archives, Haruki Murakami's “Ice Man,” a shy woman marries a man who carries winter within and without.  Jane Curtin is the reader.

How to English: Teach and Learn with Gav & Em
23. Book Club - Featuring Andrew at what_to_read_next and Dara at AppliedESL (transcribed)

How to English: Teach and Learn with Gav & Em

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2022 42:20


What's a book club? Do you belong to one? How do your start your own? With special guests Andrew from what_to_read_next and Dara at AppliedESL we explore the fascinating world of kids' books, adult fiction, subgenres, and street signs. On Gav and Em's How to English Pod. Transcription with audio: https://share.descript.com/view/P7C706QJa7E Andrew's link: https://www.instagram.com/what_to_read_next/ Dara's link: https://www.instagram.com/appliedesl/ Dara's Books: https://www.amazon.com/Dara-K.-Fulton/e/B0879B8Y1H Other resources: David Long: http://www.davidlong.info/books.html Tom Palmer: https://tompalmer.co.uk/ Vashti Hardy: https://www.vashtihardy.com/landing-ethan The Literary Trust: https://literacytrust.org.uk/ https://ihteachenglish.com/blog-post/how-run-efl-book-club https://bookstr.com/article/obscure-book-genres-you-may-not-know/ Em's Book recommendations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_on_the_Edge_of_Time https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51648276-drive-your-plow-over-the-bones-of-the-dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruki_Murakami

Read Japanese Literature
Cats in Japanese Literature

Read Japanese Literature

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2022 42:09


Today, we're going to look at cats in Japanese literature.We'll start with the history of cats in Japan.We'll move on to cats in Japanese folklore and fiction, including the work of Haruki Murakami.And finally we'll end with a discussion of our readers' choice, “The Town of Cats” by Sakutaro Hagiwara.Notes and sources at the podcast episode website.Become an RJL supporter for seven minutes of bonus content.Support this podcast by buying from Bookshop.org

Letras en el tiempo
Literatura y deporte

Letras en el tiempo

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2022 43:20


‘Literatura y deporte'. Nuevo especial de Patricia del Río en Letras en el tiempo dedicado a diversas disciplinas deportivas que mueven masas, donde alude a autores como Jorge Luis Borges, Haruki Murakami, Ernest Hemingway, Julio Cortázar, Norman Mailer y Joyce Carol Oates, por mencionar algunos, que expresaron en sus libros su pasión por el fútbol, el boxeo, el tenis o el rugby. En el libro de la semana, conversa con el periodista deportivo Juan Carlos Ortecho, quien acaba de publicar la novela ‘La fe de ayer. Amor, fútbol y revolución' (Plaza & Janés, 2022), crónica y ficción sobre sus vivencias como hincha peruano. En la voz del periodista y escritor uruguayo, Eduardo Galeano, escuchamos un pasaje de sus reflexiones sobre el fútbol (audio subido al Youtube por Joaquín Rearte en 2011). En cuanto a las películas sobre esta temática, recomendamos ‘Rocky', con Sylvester Stallone; y ‘Escape a la victoria', con Michael Caine, Sylvester Stallone, Max Von Sidow, Pelé, Oswaldo Ardiles. Por su parte, el crítico literario y gerente de la librería Escena libre, Julio Zavala, recomienda los libros ‘Mamá decía que enero era el mes más largo', de Astrid Arbildo (poesía); ‘Muchas veces dudé', de Luis Nieto Degregori (biografía novelada); y ‘Katarzys', de Gonzalo Macalopú Chiú (novela ilustrada). Las canciones que complementan el programa son: ‘Blue Morgan', de Clint Eastwood, en la película ‘Million dólar baby'; ‘Going the distance', de Bill Conti, en la película ‘Rocky'; ‘You'll never walk alone', de Gerry & Peacemakers; ‘New Zeland Warriors Maori Haka danza', de Old World Folklore Label; ‘World Union ‘95', de Overtone, Yollandi Nortjie; ‘It's still rock and roll to me', de Billy Joel; ‘Daydream', de The Lovin'Spoonful'; ‘We are the champions', de Queen. Conducción: Patricia del Río ||| Producción: Amelia Villanueva ||| Edición de audio: Andrés Rodríguez ||| Episodio 44 – Tercera temporada.

The Seen and the Unseen - hosted by Amit Varma
Ep 304: Make Me a Canteen for My Soul

The Seen and the Unseen - hosted by Amit Varma

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2022 220:37


Food is more than just sustenance for the body. Food contains stories, memories, emotions, and the ingredients of the self. Sameer Seth and Yash Bhanage join Amit Varma in episode 304 of The Seen and the Unseen to describe their journeys in food, from starting cult restaurants like Bombay Canteen and O Pedro, to setting up the pathbreaking Bombay Sweet Shop, to now taking that deeper dive into the role food plays in our society. (For full linked show notes, go to SeenUnseen.in.) Also check out: 1. Sameer Seth (LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter) and Yash Bhanage (LInkedIn, Instagram and Twitter). 2. Hunger Inc on LinkedIn and its own website. 3. Bombay Canteen on Instagram and its own website. 4. O Pedro on Instagram and its own website. 5. Bombay Sweet Shop  on Instagram and its own website. 6. Choco Butterscotch Barks -- Amit Varma's favourite dessert of all time. 7. Enthu Cutlet. 8. The Indianness of Indian Food — Episode 95 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Vikram Doctor). 9. A Scientist in the Kitchen — Episode 204 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Krish Ashok). 10. Religion, Food, Indian Society -- Episode 207 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Shoba Narayan). 11. Restaurant Regulations in India — Episode 18 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Madhu Menon). 12. Haruki Murakami on Amazon. 13. Setting the Table -- Danny Meyer. 14. Sameer Seth's Instagram post on Floyd Cardoz. 15. Varun Grover Is in the House -- Episode 292 of The Seen and the Unseen. 16. Will Guidara on Wikipedia, Instagram, Twitter and TED. 17. The boys behind The Bombay Canteen are hungry for more -- Shrabonti Bagchi. 18. Shoe Dog -- Phil Knight. 19. If You Are a Creator, This Is Your Time — Amit Varma. 20. Episodes of The Seen and the Unseen on the creator ecosystem with Roshan Abbas, Varun Duggirala, Neelesh Misra, Snehal Pradhan, Chuck Gopal, Nishant Jain, Deepak Shenoy and Abhijit Bhaduri. 21. 1000 True Fans — Kevin Kelly. 22. 1000 True Fans? Try 100 — Li Jin. 23. The Refreshing Audacity of Vinay Singhal — Episode 291 of The Seen and the Unseen. 24. Stage.in. 25. The Fat Duck -- Heston Blumenthal's restaurant. 25. Tesouro by Firefly. 26. Chef's Table and Masterchef. 27. Saransh Goila and Ranveer Brar on YouTube. 28. Dance Dance For the Halva Waala — Episode 294 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Jai Arjun Singh and Subrat Mohanty). 29. Barkha Cardoz's talk on Floyd Cardoz at The Welcome Conference. 30. Roshan Abbas and the Creator Economy — Episode 239 of The Seen and the Unseen. 31. Creativity, Inc -- Ed Catmull. 32. Delivering Happiness -- Tony Hsieh. 33. Talk Like TED -- Carmine Gallo. 34. Yash Bhanage's Instagram prank on his head of marketing. This episode is sponsored by CTQ Compounds. Check out The Daily Reader and FutureStack. Use the code UNSEEN for Rs 2500 off. Check out Amit's online course, The Art of Clear Writing. And subscribe to The India Uncut Newsletter. It's free! Episode art: ‘Sustenance' by Simahina.

Le Book Club
Ben Mazué : trouver son code intérieur

Le Book Club

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2022 14:58


Ben Mazué est chanteur, auteur et compositeur. Depuis son appartement perché au-dessus d'un café parisien, il nous parle d'un livre de l'auteur japonais Haruki Murakami, Autoportrait de l'auteur en coureur de fond, une méditation qui lui a permis de lever le voile sur son propre processus créatif et de mieux accepter sa solitude.Le Book Club est un podcast présenté par Agathe Le Taillandier. Ben Mazué répond aux questions de la journaliste Antonella Francini. Gautam Shukla a monté cet épisode. Il a été mixé par Jean-Baptiste Aubonnet. Louise Hemmerlé est à l'édition et à la coordination du Book Club, accompagnée d'Elsa Berthault. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Strong Sense of Place
LoLT: Fun Boardgames & New Books

Strong Sense of Place

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2022 9:54


In this episode, we get excited about two new books: 'Galatea' by Madeline Miller and 'Novelist as a Vocation' by Haruki Murakami. Then Dave recommends three fun boardgames for the holiday season — or anytime.  BOOKS Galatea by Madeline Miller https://bit.ly/3E9BZiY xo Orpheus: Fifty New Myth by Kate Bernheimer https://bit.ly/3gfQqKs Circe by Madeline Miller https://bit.ly/3hRV0yV Novelist as a Vocation by Haruki Murakami https://bit.ly/3GkNUgN Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami https://bit.ly/3TMJUIO Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami https://bit.ly/3gd3kJc DISTRACTION OF THE WEEK Super Mega Lucky Box Video review - https://bit.ly/3g9sg4x Buy - https://amzn.to/3AnfyWF   So Clover Video review - https://bit.ly/3EEOSTD Buy - https://amzn.to/3tEjZIM   The Crew: Mission Deep Sea Video review - https://bit.ly/3XdopDU Buy - https://amzn.to/3hSgxYv   Transcript of this episode https://bit.ly/3EjRbdF The Library of Lost Time is a Strong Sense of Place Production! https://strongsenseofplace.com Do you enjoy our show? Want access to fun bonus content? Please support our work on Patreon. Every little bit helps us keep the show going and makes us feel warm and fuzzy inside - https://www.patreon.com/strongsenseofplace As always, you can follow us at: Our web site at Strong Sense of Place Patreon Twitter  Instagram Facebook  

El libro de Tobias
ELDT: Audio relato Drive my car de Haruki Murakami

El libro de Tobias

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2022 80:24


paypal.me/LibroTobias Haruki Murakami es un escritor y traductor japonés, autor de novelas, relatos y ensayos. Sus libros han generado críticas positivas y obtenido numerosos premios, incluidos el Franz Kafka, el Mundial de Fantasía, el Jerusalén y el Hans Christian Andersen de Literatura. Drive My Car forma parte de la recopilación de relatos cortos titulada Hombres sin Mujeres (2014). Es un cuento de Haruki Murakami de poco menos de 40 páginas que narra la vida de Kafuku, un actor veterano que lidia con la pérdida de su esposa. Temas: • Drive my car – Eiko Ishibashi (de la Banda sonora de “Drive my car”) • Kafuku – Eiko Ishibashi (de la Banda sonora de “Drive my car”) Narración, edición y montaje: Asier Menéndez Marín Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

Poured Over
Patti Smith on A BOOK OF DAYS

Poured Over

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2022 66:24


“I'm really driven by poetry. I'm really driven by language. But also, I'm driven by a desire to connect with the people. So I could have been a teacher. I could have been a politician. I could have been anyone that communicates with people verbally because I liked that. I wound up a performer, but it was all rooted in poetry. And as a book person, I have loved books since I was a toddler.” Writer, performer, National Book Award Winner (Just Kids), Commandeur des Arts et des Lettres, and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee Patti Smith joins us on the show to take us behind the scenes of A Book of Days, connecting with readers, taking the pictures she wants to take (and leaving the rest to others), her love of mathematics, paying attention to marginalia in books, Arianna Grande and Harry Styles, Keanu Reeves (and the John Wick movies), dancing to pop music and much more with Poured Over's host Miwa Messer. And we end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and guest bookseller, Grace. Featured Books (Episode)
: A Book of Days by Patti Smith
 Woolgathering by Patti Smith
 The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami
 2666 by Roberto Bolaño Featured Books (TBR Topoff)
 This Searing Light, The Sun, and Everything Else by Jon Savage
 Morning Glory on the Vine by Joni Mitchell Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

Cierra el libro al salir
La tibieza existe

Cierra el libro al salir

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2022 51:19


Ya en el aire el cuadragésimo séptimo episodio de Cierra al libro al salir, en el que descubrimos que la tibieza existe. Y todo ello porque hemos leído a Murakami en la creencia de que ganaría al fin el Nobel y, ya ves, tampoco. Nos contamos desnoticias sobre acentos bovinos y palabros raros, hablamos de Al sur de la frontera, al oeste del sol, de Haruki Murakami, Fernando nos cuenta, en la reseña borgiana, una intervención artística de principios del siglo XX y Ana, como de costumbre, nos miente y nos cuenta dos oídos por ahí en lugar de uno que nos había prometido. Puedes comprar los libros de los que te hablamos donde te apetezca, pero nosotros te sugerimos que lo hagas a través de una pequeña librería y que te dejes aconsejar por los libreros. La sintonía del programa es de Charles Matuschewski y el logo del programa de Ana Nuria Corral. Las cortinillas animadas son de Jara Vicente. La traducción sincronizada de Elvira Barrio Cualquier sugerencia o crítica, incluso malintencionada, la podéis enviar a hola@cierraellibroalsalir.com. Búscanos en facebook (sobre todo), o en twitter o en instagram o en youtube, prometemos contestar lo antes posible. Esto es todo por hoy. Dentro de un mes, otro episodio. ¡No te olvides! Cierra el libro al salir. #Murakami #vacasconacento #futurismo #quark #libros #relatos #literatura

The Solid Pace Podcast

The Solid Pace Podcast EP. 125 Powered by FIT Thailand  

Textual Healing
S1E61 - Midnights with C.E. Hoffman

Textual Healing

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2022 79:54


This is a special edition episode where I am joined by C.E. Hoffman to talk about Taylor Swift's new album, Midnights. We geek out about our favorite tracks, dive deep into how Taylor has grown as an artist, admit that neither of us were "swifties", and attempt to figure out what kind of literature Taylor Swift might be into. For those who don't know C.E. Hoffman: C.E. Hoffman is a published writer from Canada. Sluts and Whores, their #OwnVoices Urban Fantasy debut, was released Feb 2021 by Thurston Howl Publications. They've edited the e-zine Visceral Uterus since 2012. Meanwhile, their novels incubate. Inspirations run from Edith Wharton to Martin Millar to Zadie Smith. C's brain hosts tea parties for Haruki Murakami and C S Lewis. J D Salinger rants to Allen Ginsberg while Allen makes eyes at Irvine Welsh. Michelle Tea recites with Assata Shakur, Joy Harjo, and Saul Williams. Shakespeare's always there, but he's shy. So are the musicians. (MCR, Marianas Trench, The Hold Steady, Azealia Banks, Eminem, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Meredith Wilson…) C devours books. Favourites of late: There There by Tommy Orange, Jack Wang's We Two Alone, and Neil S Reddy's forthcoming JubJub Juice. They're psyched to read Second Bell by Gabriela Houston, whilst enjoying Girl, Woman, Other by Bernadine Evaristo. C writes about magic, sex, and death. They hug trees, love cats, and clearly dig Taylor Swift's new album. Website: https://cehoffman.net Twitter: https://twitter.com/CEHoffman2 Select Publications: https://razorcake.org/sneaker-club-outer-rooms-june-body-and-brocoy-at-duffys-tavern-toronto-on-nov-21-2019-by-c-e-hoffman/… https://maudlinhouse.net/gtfo-1/ https://punkpoetry.com/ce-hoffman/ https://thurstonhowlpub.storenvy.com/products/31670962-sluts-and-whores beats by God'Aryan Support Textual Healing with Mallory Smart by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/textual-healing

Love is Beauty Program Podcast

Welcome back to another episode of Love is Beauty Podcast. In this episode I discuss what healing looks like. I also discuss my personal thoughts on healing. Quote of the week: "What happens when people open their hearts? They get better." -Haruki Murakami; I hope you have enjoy this episode, I will talk to you all next week. ◦ Email for Mental Check in segment: loveisbeautyprogram@gmail.com ♡ F O L L O W M Y S O C I A L S ♡ ◦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mslamekkiona/ ◦ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mslamekkiona ◦ Online Website: https://loveisbeautyprogram.com ◦ Use code : LIBP for 20% OFF ◦Youtube: https://youtu.be/lxkUDCgvxDU --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lamekkiona/support

What Just Happened?
Race Day (Ep. 119)

What Just Happened?

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2022 38:06


The second of our two part series on the SF Marathon. David and Eugene discuss the highs and lows of the race, our biggest takeaways, Eugene's surprise mystery SECOND race, and what we hope to get from running in the future. As always, thanks for listening! Music: New Lands - Alex Productions Running Up That Hill - Mozartine  Follow me on Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/34364-david?order=d&shelf=read&sort=date_read SUBSCRIBE, RATE, and REVIEW What Just Happened? on iTunes, Overcast, Stitcher, Google Play, and Spotify. Reach us at Facebook: www.facebook.com/whatjusthappenedpodcast Twitter @davidgchang whatjustpodcast @ gmail . com "All I do is keep on running in my own cozy, homemade void, my own nostalgic silence. And this is a pretty wonderful thing. No matter what anybody else says." - Haruki Murakami 

Elder Sign: A Weird Fiction Podcast
Ep. 126: Super-Frog Saves Tokyo by Haruki Murakami

Elder Sign: A Weird Fiction Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2022 43:50


Exactly what it says on the box. Grab a copy of Shredded, the new anthology of horror stories about sports and fitness from Eric Raglin. Thanks to the awesome Patreon supporter who nominated this awesome episode! If you would like to purchase a nomination or a bonus episode of your own, email the show at ClaytempleMedia.@gmail.com. Support the show and gain access to over three dozen bonus episodes by becoming a patron on Patreon. Rate and review the show to help us reach more readers and listeners. Not enough science-fiction and fantasy in your life? Join us on The Gene Wolfe Literary Podcast! Love Star Trek? Come find us on the Lower Decks! Neil Gaiman fan? Love comics? Join us on Hanging Out With the Dream King: A Neil Gaiman Podcast. Check out Glenn's medieval history podcast Agnus! Find out how you can commission a special bonus episode here. Join the conversation on the Claytemple Forum. Follow Claytemple Media on Facebook and Twitter, and sign up for our newsletter. Follow Glenn on Facebook and Twitter. Check out Glenn's weird fiction story "Goodbye to All That" on the Tales to Terrify Podcast. Next time: Two episodes on "Reeling for the Empire" by Karen Russell Music: http://www.purple-planet.com

Wisdom of the Sages
864: I Sneeze - I'm a Man / I Sneeze - I'm a Woman

Wisdom of the Sages

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2022 54:05 Very Popular




“Death is not the opposite of life, but a part of it.”- Haruki Murakami / the terror of death without spiritual knowledge / “Death never takes the wise man by surprise, he is always ready to go.” Jean de La Fontaine / death can be a gift to put your life in perspective / our deep affections for family should be based on truth / the chains of habit are too light to be felt until they're too heavy to be broken 40% off Divya's MasterClass at https://divyas.com/?ref=6799 15% off your first purchase with code WISDOMOFTHESAGES15 SB 4.28.1-13  

Wisdom of the Sages
864: I Sneeze - I'm a Man / I Sneeze - I'm a Woman

Wisdom of the Sages

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2022 54:05




“Death is not the opposite of life, but a part of it.”- Haruki Murakami / the terror of death without spiritual knowledge / “Death never takes the wise man by surprise, he is always ready to go.” Jean de La Fontaine / death can be a gift to put your life in perspective / our deep affections for family should be based on truth / the chains of habit are too light to be felt until they're too heavy to be broken 40% off Divya's MasterClass at https://divyas.com/?ref=6799 15% off your first purchase with code WISDOMOFTHESAGES15 SB 4.28.1-13  

New Books Network
Virtual Reality as Immersive Enclosure, with Paul Roquet (EF, JP)

New Books Network

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2022 38:43


Paul Roquet is an MIT associate professor in media studies and Japan studies; his earlier work includes Ambient Media. It was his recent mind-bending The Immersive Enclosure that prompted John and Elizabeth to invite him to discuss the history of "head-mounted media" and the perceptual implications of virtual reality. Paul Elizabeth and John discuss the appeal of leaving actuality aside and how the desire to shut off immediate surroundings shapes VR's rollout in Japan. The discussion covers perceptual scale-change as part of VR's appeal--is that true of earlier artwork as well? They explore moral panic in Japan and America, recap the history of early VR headset adapters on trains and compare various Japanese words for "virtual" and their antonyms. Paul wonders if the ephemerality of the views glimpsed in a rock garden served as guiding paradigm for how VR is experienced. Mentioned in the episode Yoshikazu Nango, "A new form of 'solitary space'...." (2021) Haruki Murakami's detailed fictional worlds of the 1980's onwards: real-feeling yet not actual history. Walter Scott's Waverley novels: can we also understand the novel as an immersive machine that leaves readers half in their actual world? Lewis Carrol's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865), with its interplay between enclosure and expansion, and its shrinking/expanding motif) Ian Bogost on e-readers C S Lewis's wardrobe as portal in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950) Lukacs focuses on the dizzying and transformative scale in Naturalism in "Narrate or Describe?" (1936) Wearable heart monitors as feedback machines for watching scary movies. The pre-history of Pokemon Go is various games played by early users of VR headsets on trains. Sword Art Online is a breakout popular example of Japanese stories of players trapped inside a game-world Thomas Boellstroff, Coming of Age in Second Life We Met in Virtual Reality Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash (1992) coined the concept of the metaverse. Recallable Books Madeline L'Engle The Wind in the Door (1973). Cervantes, Don Quixote (1606/1615) Futari Okajima Klein Bottle (1989) Collections such as Immersed in Technology, Future Visions, Virtual Realities and their Discontents; also, other early VR criticism of the 1990s including early feminist critique, scattered across journals in the early to mid 1990s . Paul feels someone should put together those germane articles into a new collection. Read the transcript here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

New Books in Science Fiction
Virtual Reality as Immersive Enclosure, with Paul Roquet (EF, JP)

New Books in Science Fiction

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2022 38:43


Paul Roquet is an MIT associate professor in media studies and Japan studies; his earlier work includes Ambient Media. It was his recent mind-bending The Immersive Enclosure that prompted John and Elizabeth to invite him to discuss the history of "head-mounted media" and the perceptual implications of virtual reality. Paul Elizabeth and John discuss the appeal of leaving actuality aside and how the desire to shut off immediate surroundings shapes VR's rollout in Japan. The discussion covers perceptual scale-change as part of VR's appeal--is that true of earlier artwork as well? They explore moral panic in Japan and America, recap the history of early VR headset adapters on trains and compare various Japanese words for "virtual" and their antonyms. Paul wonders if the ephemerality of the views glimpsed in a rock garden served as guiding paradigm for how VR is experienced. Mentioned in the episode Yoshikazu Nango, "A new form of 'solitary space'...." (2021) Haruki Murakami's detailed fictional worlds of the 1980's onwards: real-feeling yet not actual history. Walter Scott's Waverley novels: can we also understand the novel as an immersive machine that leaves readers half in their actual world? Lewis Carrol's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865), with its interplay between enclosure and expansion, and its shrinking/expanding motif) Ian Bogost on e-readers C S Lewis's wardrobe as portal in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950) Lukacs focuses on the dizzying and transformative scale in Naturalism in "Narrate or Describe?" (1936) Wearable heart monitors as feedback machines for watching scary movies. The pre-history of Pokemon Go is various games played by early users of VR headsets on trains. Sword Art Online is a breakout popular example of Japanese stories of players trapped inside a game-world Thomas Boellstroff, Coming of Age in Second Life We Met in Virtual Reality Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash (1992) coined the concept of the metaverse. Recallable Books Madeline L'Engle The Wind in the Door (1973). Cervantes, Don Quixote (1606/1615) Futari Okajima Klein Bottle (1989) Collections such as Immersed in Technology, Future Visions, Virtual Realities and their Discontents; also, other early VR criticism of the 1990s including early feminist critique, scattered across journals in the early to mid 1990s . Paul feels someone should put together those germane articles into a new collection. Read the transcript here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/science-fiction

Recall This Book
90 Virtual Reality as Immersive Enclosure, with Paul Roquet (EF, JP)

Recall This Book

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2022 38:43


Paul Roquet is an MIT associate professor in media studies and Japan studies; his earlier work includes Ambient Media. It was his recent mind-bending The Immersive Enclosure that prompted John and Elizabeth to invite him to discuss the history of "head-mounted media" and the perceptual implications of virtual reality. Paul Elizabeth and John discuss the appeal of leaving actuality aside and how the desire to shut off immediate surroundings shapes VR's rollout in Japan. The discussion covers perceptual scale-change as part of VR's appeal--is that true of earlier artwork as well? They explore moral panic in Japan and America, recap the history of early VR headset adapters on trains and compare various Japanese words for "virtual" and their antonyms. Paul wonders if the ephemerality of the views glimpsed in a rock garden served as guiding paradigm for how VR is experienced. Mentioned in the episode Yoshikazu Nango, "A new form of 'solitary space'...." (2021) Haruki Murakami's detailed fictional worlds of the 1980's onwards: real-feeling yet not actual history. Walter Scott's Waverley novels: can we also understand the novel as an immersive machine that leaves readers half in their actual world? Lewis Carrol's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865), with its interplay between enclosure and expansion, and its shrinking/expanding motif) Ian Bogost on e-readers C S Lewis's wardrobe as portal in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950) Lukacs focuses on the dizzying and transformative scale in Naturalism in "Narrate or Describe?" (1936) Wearable heart monitors as feedback machines for watching scary movies. The pre-history of Pokemon Go is various games played by early users of VR headsets on trains. Sword Art Online is a breakout popular example of Japanese stories of players trapped inside a game-world Thomas Boellstroff, Coming of Age in Second Life We Met in Virtual Reality Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash (1992) coined the concept of the metaverse. Recallable Books Madeline L'Engle The Wind in the Door (1973). Cervantes, Don Quixote (1606/1615) Futari Okajima Klein Bottle (1989) Collections such as Immersed in Technology, Future Visions, Virtual Realities and their Discontents; also, other early VR criticism of the 1990s including early feminist critique, scattered across journals in the early to mid 1990s . Paul feels someone should put together those germane articles into a new collection. Read the transcript here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New Books in East Asian Studies
Virtual Reality as Immersive Enclosure, with Paul Roquet (EF, JP)

New Books in East Asian Studies

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2022 38:43


Paul Roquet is an MIT associate professor in media studies and Japan studies; his earlier work includes Ambient Media. It was his recent mind-bending The Immersive Enclosure that prompted John and Elizabeth to invite him to discuss the history of "head-mounted media" and the perceptual implications of virtual reality. Paul Elizabeth and John discuss the appeal of leaving actuality aside and how the desire to shut off immediate surroundings shapes VR's rollout in Japan. The discussion covers perceptual scale-change as part of VR's appeal--is that true of earlier artwork as well? They explore moral panic in Japan and America, recap the history of early VR headset adapters on trains and compare various Japanese words for "virtual" and their antonyms. Paul wonders if the ephemerality of the views glimpsed in a rock garden served as guiding paradigm for how VR is experienced. Mentioned in the episode Yoshikazu Nango, "A new form of 'solitary space'...." (2021) Haruki Murakami's detailed fictional worlds of the 1980's onwards: real-feeling yet not actual history. Walter Scott's Waverley novels: can we also understand the novel as an immersive machine that leaves readers half in their actual world? Lewis Carrol's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865), with its interplay between enclosure and expansion, and its shrinking/expanding motif) Ian Bogost on e-readers C S Lewis's wardrobe as portal in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950) Lukacs focuses on the dizzying and transformative scale in Naturalism in "Narrate or Describe?" (1936) Wearable heart monitors as feedback machines for watching scary movies. The pre-history of Pokemon Go is various games played by early users of VR headsets on trains. Sword Art Online is a breakout popular example of Japanese stories of players trapped inside a game-world Thomas Boellstroff, Coming of Age in Second Life We Met in Virtual Reality Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash (1992) coined the concept of the metaverse. Recallable Books Madeline L'Engle The Wind in the Door (1973). Cervantes, Don Quixote (1606/1615) Futari Okajima Klein Bottle (1989) Collections such as Immersed in Technology, Future Visions, Virtual Realities and their Discontents; also, other early VR criticism of the 1990s including early feminist critique, scattered across journals in the early to mid 1990s . Paul feels someone should put together those germane articles into a new collection. Read the transcript here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/east-asian-studies

New Books in Literary Studies
Virtual Reality as Immersive Enclosure, with Paul Roquet (EF, JP)

New Books in Literary Studies

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2022 38:43


Paul Roquet is an MIT associate professor in media studies and Japan studies; his earlier work includes Ambient Media. It was his recent mind-bending The Immersive Enclosure that prompted John and Elizabeth to invite him to discuss the history of "head-mounted media" and the perceptual implications of virtual reality. Paul Elizabeth and John discuss the appeal of leaving actuality aside and how the desire to shut off immediate surroundings shapes VR's rollout in Japan. The discussion covers perceptual scale-change as part of VR's appeal--is that true of earlier artwork as well? They explore moral panic in Japan and America, recap the history of early VR headset adapters on trains and compare various Japanese words for "virtual" and their antonyms. Paul wonders if the ephemerality of the views glimpsed in a rock garden served as guiding paradigm for how VR is experienced. Mentioned in the episode Yoshikazu Nango, "A new form of 'solitary space'...." (2021) Haruki Murakami's detailed fictional worlds of the 1980's onwards: real-feeling yet not actual history. Walter Scott's Waverley novels: can we also understand the novel as an immersive machine that leaves readers half in their actual world? Lewis Carrol's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865), with its interplay between enclosure and expansion, and its shrinking/expanding motif) Ian Bogost on e-readers C S Lewis's wardrobe as portal in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950) Lukacs focuses on the dizzying and transformative scale in Naturalism in "Narrate or Describe?" (1936) Wearable heart monitors as feedback machines for watching scary movies. The pre-history of Pokemon Go is various games played by early users of VR headsets on trains. Sword Art Online is a breakout popular example of Japanese stories of players trapped inside a game-world Thomas Boellstroff, Coming of Age in Second Life We Met in Virtual Reality Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash (1992) coined the concept of the metaverse. Recallable Books Madeline L'Engle The Wind in the Door (1973). Cervantes, Don Quixote (1606/1615) Futari Okajima Klein Bottle (1989) Collections such as Immersed in Technology, Future Visions, Virtual Realities and their Discontents; also, other early VR criticism of the 1990s including early feminist critique, scattered across journals in the early to mid 1990s . Paul feels someone should put together those germane articles into a new collection. Read the transcript here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/literary-studies

Musically Cogitating
Cogitate on These Recommendations #2

Musically Cogitating

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2022 13:57


The show is back! In this episode, Ciyadh talks about where she was during her break and gives some great recommendations of things for you to consume. Show Notes:Rebelde (TV Series 2022– ) - IMDbStep inside Haruki Murakami's library in TokyoTake an interactive tour of Haruki Murakami's record room - The Vinyl FactoryFinale.app I Care If You Listen Music Recommendation of the Week: Begin Again by Ariel PosenSpotify Playlist: Musically Cogitating Spotify PlaylistPodcast Links: Musically Cogitating Podcast StoreMusically Cogitating WebsiteMusically Cogitating TwitterMusically Cogitating InstagramMusically Cogitating FacebookMusically Cogitating YouTubeMusically Cogitating NewsletterMusically Cogitating Podcast Bookshop*Email Address: musicallycogitating@gmail.com Ciyadh's Links: Ciyadh's WebsiteCiyadh's InstagramCiyadh's TwitterCiyadh's Facebook*Some of the links in this post are affiliate links. This means that if you click on the link and purchase an item, I will receive an affiliate commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show

TreeHouseLetter
What can music teach us about writing?

TreeHouseLetter

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2022 16:52


Just like song, for writing to work it must have rhythm. This has taken me a long time to learn. I came across the idea in Haruki Murakami's memoir, Absolutely on Music. This book is about a series of conversations with the former conductor of the Boston Symphony, Seiji Ozawa. The novelist meets the maestro. They talk. Learn what the novelist has to say about writing and rhythm and decide if prose rhythm matters with less than average examples. Hear the music in the prose of Beryl Markham and David Foster Wallace.

The Lunar Society
Tyler Cowen - Talent, Collapse, & Pessimism of Sex

The Lunar Society

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 94:39


It was my great pleasure to speak once again to Tyler Cowen. His most recent book is Talent, How to Find Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Across the World.We discuss:how sex is more pessimistic than he is,why he expects society to collapse permanently,why humility, stimulants, intelligence, & stimulants are overrated,how he identifies talent, deceit, & ambition,& much much much more!Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript here.Follow me on Twitter for updates on future episodes.More really cool guests coming up, subscribe to find out about future episodes!You may also enjoy my interviews of Bryan Caplan (about mental illness, discrimination, and poverty), David Deutsch (about AI and the problems with America's constitution), and Steve Hsu (about intelligence and embryo selection).If you end up enjoying this episode, I would be super grateful if you shared it. Post it on Twitter, send it to your friends & group-chats, and throw it up on any relevant subreddits & forums you follow. Can't exaggerate how much it helps a small podcast like mine.A huge thanks to Graham Bessellieu for editing this podcast and Mia Aiyana for producing its transcript.Timestamps(0:00) -Did Caplan Change On Education?(1:17) - Travel vs. History(3:10) - Do Institutions Become Left Wing Over Time?(6:02) - What Does Talent Correlate With?(13:00) - Humility, Mental Illness, Caffeine, and Suits(19:20) - How does Education affect Talent?(24:34) - Scouting Talent(33:39) - Money, Deceit, and Emergent Ventures(37:16) - Building Writing Stamina(39:41) - When Does Intelligence Start to Matter?(43:51) - Spotting Talent (Counter)signals(53:57) - Will Reading Cowen's Book Help You Win Emergent Ventures?(1:04:18) - Existential risks and the Longterm(1:12:45) - Cultivating Young Talent(1:16:05) - The Lifespans of Public Intellectuals(1:19:42) - Risk Aversion in Academia(1:26:20) - Is Stagnation Inevitable?(1:31:33) - What are Podcasts for?TranscriptDid Caplan Change On Education?Tyler Cowen   Ask Bryan about early and late Caplan. In which ways are they not consistent? That's a kind of friendly jab.Dwarkesh Patel   Okay, interesting. Tyler Cowen   Garrett Jones has tweeted about this in the past. In The Myth of the Rational Voter, education is so wonderful. It no longer seems to be true, but it was true from the data Bryan took from. Bryan doesn't think education really teaches you much. Dwarkesh Patel So then why is it making you want a free market?Tyler Cowen  It once did, even though it doesn't now, and if it doesn't now, it may teach them bad things. But it's teaching them something.Dwarkesh Patel   I have asked him this. He thinks that education doesn't teach them anything; therefore, that woke-ism can't be a result of colleges. I asked him, “okay, at some point, these were ideas in colleges, but now they're in the broader world. What do you think happened? Why did it transition together?” I don't think he had a good answer to that.Tyler Cowen   Yeah, you can put this in the podcast if you want. I like the free podcast talk often better than the podcast. [laughs]Dwarkesh Patel   Okay. Well yeah, we can just start rolling. Today, it is my great pleasure to speak to Tyler Cowen about his new book, “Talent, How to Find Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Across the World.” Tyler, welcome (once again) to The Lunar Society. Tyler Cowen   Happy to be here, thank you!Travel vs. HistoryDwarkesh Patel 1:51  Okay, excellent. I'll get into talent in just a second, but I've got a few questions for you first. So in terms of novelty and wonder, do you think travelling to the past would be a fundamentally different experience from travelling to different countries today? Or is it kind of in the same category?Tyler Cowen   You need to be protected against disease and have some access to the languages, and obviously, your smartphone is not going to work, right? So if you adjust for those differences, I think it would be a lot like travelling today except there'd be bigger surprises because no one else has gone to the past. Older people were there in a sense, but if you go back to ancient Athens, or the peak of the Roman Empire, you'd be the first traveller. Dwarkesh Patel   So do you think the experience of reading a history book is somewhat substitutable for actually travelling to a place? Tyler Cowen   Not at all! I think we understand the past very very poorly. If you've travelled appropriately in contemporary times, it should make you more skeptical about history because you'll realize how little you can learn about the current places just by reading about them. So it's like Travel versus History, and the historians lose.Dwarkesh Patel   Oh, interesting. So I'm curious, how does travelling a lot change your perspective when you read a work of history? In what ways does it do so? Are you skeptical of it to an extent that you weren't before, and what do you think historians are probably getting wrong? Tyler Cowen   It may not be a concrete way, but first you ask: was the person there? If it's a biography, did the author personally know the subject of the biography? That becomes an extremely important question. I was just in India for the sixth time, I hardly pretend to understand India, whatever that possibly might mean, but before I went at all, I'd read a few hundred books about India, and it's not like I got nothing out of them, but in some sense, I knew nothing about India. Now that I've visited, the other things I read make more sense, including the history.Do Institutions Become Left Wing Over Time?Dwarkesh Patel   Okay, interesting. So you've asked this question to many of your guests, and I don't think any of them have had a good answer. So let me just ask you: what do you think is the explanation behind Conquest's Second Law? Why does any institution that is not explicitly right-wing become left-wing over time?Tyler Cowen   Well, first of all, I'm not sure that Conquest's Second Law is true. So you have something like the World Bank which was sort of centrist state-ist in the 1960s, and by the 1990s became fairly neoliberal. Now, about what's left-wing/right-wing, it's global, it's complicated, but it's not a simple case of Conquest's Second Law holding. I do think that for a big part of the latter post-war era, some version of Conquest's Law does mostly hold for the United States. But once you see that it's not universal, you're just asking: well, why have parts? Why has the American intelligentsia shifted to the left? So that there's political science literature on educational polarization? [laughs] I wouldn't say it's a settled question, but it's not a huge mystery like “how Republicans act wackier than Democrats are” for example. The issues realign in particular ways. I believe that's why Conquest's Law locally is mostly holding.Dwarkesh Patel   Oh, interesting. So you don't think there's anything special about the intellectual life that tends to make people left-wing, and this issue is particular to our current moment?Tyler Cowen    I think by choosing the words “left-wing” you're begging the question. There's a lot of historical areas where what is left-wing is not even well defined, so in that sense, Conquests Law can't even hold there. I once had a debate with Marc Andreessen about this–– I think Mark tends to see things that are left-wing/right-wing as somewhat universal historical categories, and I very much do not. In medieval times, what's left wing and what's right wing? Even in 17th century England, there were particular groups who on particular issues were very left-wing or right-wing. It seems to me to be very unsatisfying, and there's a lot of fluidity in how these axes play out over real issues.Dwarkesh Patel   Interesting. So maybe then it's what is considered “left” at the time that tends to be the thing that ends up winning. At least, that's how it looks like looking back on it. That's how we categorize things. Something insightful I heard is that “if the left keeps winning, then just redefine what the left is.” So if you think of prohibition at the time, it was a left-wing cause, but now, the opposite of prohibition is left-wing because we just changed what the left is.Tyler Cowen    Exactly. Take the French Revolution: they're the historical equivalent of nonprofits versus 1830s restoration. Was everything moving to the left, between Robespierre and 1830? I don't pretend to know, but it just sure doesn't seem that way. So again, there seem to be a lot of cases where Conquest's Law is not so economical.Dwarkesh Patel   Napoleon is a great example of this where we're not sure whether he's the most left-wing figure in history or the most right-wing figure in history.Tyler Cowen 6:00Maybe he's both somehow.What Does Talent Correlate With?Dwarkesh Patel How much of talent or the lack thereof is a moral judgment for you? Just to give some context, when I think that somebody is not that intelligent, for me, that doesn't seem like a moral judgment. That just seems like a lottery. When I say that somebody's not hard working, that seems like more of a moral judgment. So on that spectrum, where would you say talent lies?Tyler Cowen   I don't know. My default is that most people aren't that ambitious. I'm fine with that. It actually creates some opportunities for the ambitious–– there might be an optimal degree of ambition. Well, short of everyone being sort of maximally ambitious. So I don't go around pissed off at unambitious people, judging them in some moralizing way. I think a lot of me is on autopilot when it comes to morally judging people from a distance. I don't wake up in the morning and get pissed off at someone in the Middle East doing whatever, even though I might think it was wrong.Dwarkesh Patel   So when you read the biographies of great people, often you see there's a bit of an emotional neglect and abuse when they're kids. Why do you think this is such a common trope?Tyler Cowen   I would love to see the data, but I'm not convinced that it's more common than with other people. Famous people, especially those who have biographies, on average are from earlier times, and in earlier times, children were treated worse. So it could be correlated without being causal. Now, maybe there's this notion that you need to have something to prove. Maybe you only feel you need to prove something if you're Napoleon and you're short, and you weren't always treated well. That's possible and I don't rule it out. But you look at Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg without pretending to know what their childhoods were like.  It sure sounds like they were upper middle class kids treated very well, at least from a distance. For example, the Collison's had great parents and they did well.Dwarkesh Patel   It could just be that the examples involving emotional neglect stuck out in my mind in particular.  Tyler Cowen   Yeah. So I'd really like to see the data. I think it's an important and very good question. It seems to me, maybe one could investigate it, but I've never seen an actual result.Dwarkesh Patel   Is there something you've learned about talent spotting through writing the book that you wish wasn't so? Maybe you found it disturbing, or you found it disappointing in some way. Is there something that is a correlate for talent that you wish wasn't? Tyler Cowen   I don't know. Again, I think I'm relatively accepting of a lot of these realities, but the thing that disappoints me a bit is how geographically clustered talent is. I don't mean where it was born, and I don't mean ethnically. I just mean where it ends up. So if you get an application, say from rural Italy where maybe living standards are perfectly fine–– there's good weather, there's olive oil, there's pasta. But the application just probably not that good. Certainly, Italians have had enough amazing achievements over the millennia, but right now, the people there who are actually up to something are going to move to London or New York or somewhere. So I find that a bit depressing. It's not really about the people. Dwarkesh Patel   When you do find a cluster of talent, to what extent can that be explained by a cyclical view of what's happening in the region? In the sense of the “hard times create strong men” theory? I mean at some point, Italy had a Renaissance, so maybe things got complacent over time.Tyler Cowen   Again, maybe that's true for Italy, but most of the talent clusters have been such for a long time, like London and New York. It's not cyclical. They've just had a ton of talent for a very long time. They still do, and later on, they still will. Maybe not literally forever, but it seems like an enduring effect.Dwarkesh Patel   But what if they leave? For example, the Central European Jews couldn't stay where they were anymore and had to leave.Tyler Cowen   Obviously, I think war can destroy almost anything. So German scientific talent took a big whack, German cultural talent too. I mean, Hungarian Jews and mathematics-–I don't know big of a trend it still is, but it's certainly nothing close to what it once was.Dwarkesh Patel   Okay. I was worried that if you realize that some particular region has a lot of talent right now, then that might be a one-time gain. You realize that India, Toronto or Nigeria or something have a lot of talent, but the culture doesn't persist in some sort of extended way. Tyler Cowen   That might be true for where talent comes from, but where it goes just seems to show more persistence. People will almost certainly be going to London for centuries. Is London producing a lot of talent? That's less clear. That may be much more cyclical. In the 17th century, London was amazing, right? London today? I would say I don't know. But it's not obvious that it's coming close to its previous glories. So the current status of India I think, will be temporary, but temporary for a long time. It's just a very big place. It has a lot of centres and there are things it has going for it like not taking prosperity for granted. But it will have all of these for quite a while–– India's still pretty poor.Dwarkesh Patel   What do you think is the difference between actual places where clusters of talent congregate and places where that are just a source of that talent? What makes a place a sink rather than a source of talent?Tyler Cowen   I think finding a place where people end up going is more or less obvious. You need money, you need a big city, you need some kind of common trade or linguistic connection. So New York and London are what they are for obvious reasons, right? Path dependence history, the story of making it in the Big Apple and so on. But origins and where people come from are areas that I think theory is very bad at understanding. Why did the Renaissance blossom in Florence and Venice, and not in Milan? If you're going back earlier, it wasn't obvious that it would be those places. I've done a lot of reading to try to figure this out, but I find that I've gotten remarkably not far on the question.Dwarkesh Patel   The particular examples you mentioned today–– like New York, San Francisco, London, these places today are kind of high stakes, because if you want to move there, it's expensive. Do you think that this is because they've been so talented despite this fact, or because you need some sort of exclusion in order to be a haven of talent?Tyler Cowen   Well, I think this is a problem for San Francisco. It may be a more temporary cluster than it ought to have been. Since it's a pretty recent cluster, it can't count on the same kind of historical path dependence that New York and Manhattan have. But a lot of New York still is not that expensive. Look at the people who work and live there! They're not all rich, to say the least. And that is an important part of why New York is still New York. With London, it's much harder, but it seems to me that London is a sink for somewhat established talent––which is fine, right? However, in that regard, it's much inferior to New York.Humility, Mental Illness, Caffeine, and Suits Dwarkesh Patel   Okay, I want to play a game of overrated and underrated with you, but we're going to do it with certain traits or certain kinds of personalities that might come in when you're interviewing people.Tyler Cowen   Okay, it's probably all going to be indeterminate, but go on.Dwarkesh Patel   Right. So somebody comes in, and they're very humble.Tyler Cowen   Immediately I'm suspicious. I figure most people who are going to make something of themselves are arrogant. If they're willing to show it, there's a certain bravery or openness in that. I don't rule out the humble person doing great. A lot of people who do great are humble, but I just get a wee bit like, “what's up with you? You're not really humble, are you?”Dwarkesh Patel   Maybe humility is a way of avoiding confrontation–– if you don't have the competence to actually show that you can be great. Tyler Cowen   It might be efficient for them to avoid confrontation, but I just start thinking that I don't know the real story. When I see a bit of arrogance, I'm less likely to think that it may, in a way, be feigned. But the feigning of arrogance in itself is a kind of arrogance. So in that sense, I'm still getting the genuine thing. Dwarkesh Patel   So what is the difference? Let's say a 15-year-old who is kind of arrogant versus a 50-year-old who is kind of arrogant, and the latter has accomplishments already while the first one doesn't. Is there a difference in how you perceive humility or the lack thereof?Tyler Cowen   Oh, sure. With the 50-year-old, you want to see what they have done, and you're much more likely to think the 50 year old should feign humility than the 15-year-old. Because that's the high-status thing to do–– it's to feign humility. If they can't do that, you figure, “Here's one thing they're bad at. What else are they bad at?” Whereas with the 15-year-old, maybe they have a chip on their shoulder and they can't quite hold it all in. Oh, that's great and fine. Let's see what you're gonna do.Dwarkesh Patel   How arrogant can you be? There are many 15 year olds who are really good at math, and they have ambitions like “I want to solve P ≠ NP” or “I want to build an AGI” or something. Is there some level where you just clearly don't understand what's going on since you think you can do something like that? Or is arrogance always a plus?Tyler Cowen   I haven't seen that level of arrogance yet. If a 15-year-old said to me, “in three years, I'm going to invent a perpetual motion machine,”  I would think “No, now you're just crazy.” But no one's ever said that to me. There's this famous Mark Zuckerberg story where he went into the VC meeting at Sequoia wearing his pajamas and he told Sequoia not to give him money. He was 18 at a minimum, that's pretty arrogant behavior and we should be fine with that. We know how the story ends. So it's really hard to be too arrogant. But once you say this, because of the second order effect, you start thinking: “Well, are they just being arrogant as an act?” And then in the “act sense”, yes, they can be too arrogant.Dwarkesh Patel   Isn't the backstory there that Mark was friends with Sean Parker and then Sean Parker had beef with Sequoia…Tyler Cowen   There's something like that. I wouldn't want to say off the top of my head exactly what, but there is a backstory.Dwarkesh Patel   Okay. Somebody comes in professionally dressed when they don't need to. They've got a crisp clean shirt. They've got a nice wash. Tyler Cowen How old are they?Dwarkesh Patel 20.Tyler Cowen They're too conformist. Again, with some jobs, conformity is great, but I get a little suspicious, at least for what I'm looking for. Though I wouldn't rule them out for a lot of things–– it's a plus, right?Dwarkesh Patel   Is there a point though, where you're in some way being conformist by dressing up in a polo shirt? Like if you're in San Francisco right now, it seems like the conformist thing is not to wear a suit to an interview if you're trying to be a software engineer.Tyler Cowen   Yeah, there might be situations where it's so weird, so over the top, so conformist, that it's actually totally non-conformist. Like “I don't know anyone who's a conformist like you are!” Maybe it's not being a conformist, or just being some kind of nut, that makes you interested again.Dwarkesh Patel   An overall sense that you get from the person that they're really content, almost like Buddha came in for an interview. A sense of wellbeing.Tyler Cowen   It's gonna depend on context, I don't think I'd hold it against someone, but I wouldn't take it at face value. You figure they're antsy in some way, you hope. You'll see it with more time, I would just think.Dwarkesh Patel   Somebody who uses a lot of nootropics. They're constantly using caffeine, but maybe on the side (multiple times a week), they're also using Adderall, Modafinil, and other kinds of nootropics.Tyler Cowen   I don't personally like it, but I've never seen evidence that it's negatively correlated with success, so I would try to put it out of my mind. I sort of personally get a queasy feeling like “Do you really know what you're doing. Is all this stuff good for you? Why do you need this?” That's my actual reaction, but again, at the intellectual level, it does seem to work for some people, or at least not screw them up too much.Dwarkesh Patel   You don't drink caffeine, correct? Tyler Cowen  Zero.Dwarkesh Patel Why?Tyler Cowen I don't like it. It might be bad for you. Dwarkesh Patel Oh really, you think so? Tyler Cowen People get addicted to it.Dwarkesh Patel    You're not worried it might make you less productive over the long term? It's more about you just don't want to be addicted to something?Tyler Cowen   Well, since I don't know it well, I'm not sure what my worries are. But the status quo regime seems to work. I observe a lot of people who end up addicted to coffee, coke, soda, stuff we know is bad for you. So I think: “What's the problem I need to solve? Why do it?”Dwarkesh Patel   What if they have a history of mental illness like depression or anxiety? Not that mental illnesses are good, but at the current margins, do you think that maybe they're punished too heavily? Or maybe that people don't take them seriously enough that they actually have a bigger signal than the people are considering?Tyler Cowen   I don't know. I mean, both could be true, right? So there's definitely positive correlations between that stuff and artistic creativity. Whether or not it's causal is harder to say, but it correlates. So you certainly should take the person seriously. But would they be the best Starbucks cashier? I don't know.How does Education Affect Talent?Dwarkesh Patel   Yeah. In another podcast, you've pointed out that some of the most talented people you see who are neglected are 15 to 17 year olds. How does this impact how you think? Let's say you were in charge of a high school, you're the principal of a high school, and you know that there's 2000 students there. A few of them have to be geniuses, right? How is the high school run by Tyler Cowen? Especially for the very smartest people there? Tyler Cowen   Less homework! I would work harder to hire better teachers, pay them more, and fire the bad ones if I'm allowed to do that. Those are no-brainers, but mainly less homework and I'd have more people come in who are potential role models. Someone like me! I was invited once to Flint Hill High School in Oakton, it's right nearby. I went in, I wasn't paid. I just figured “I'll do this.” It seems to me a lot of high schools don't even try. They could get a bunch of people to come in for free to just say “I'm an economist, here's what being an economist is like” for 45 minutes. Is that so much worse than the BS the teacher has to spew? Of course not. So I would just do more things like that.Dwarkesh Patel   I want to understand the difference between these three options. The first is: somebody like you actually gives an in-person lecture saying “this is what life is like”. The second is zoom, you could use zoom to do that. The third is that it's not live in any way whatsoever. You're just kind of like maybe showing a video of the person. Tyler Cowen   I'm a big believer in vividness. So Zoom is better than nothing. A lot of people are at a distance, but I think you'll get more and better responses by inviting local people to do it live. And there's plenty of local people, where most of the good schools are.Dwarkesh Patel   Are you tempted to just give these really smart 15-year-olds a hall pass to the library all day and some WiFi access, and then just leave them alone? Or do you think that they need some sort of structure?Tyler Cowen   I think they need some structure, but you have to let them rebel against it and do their own thing. Zero structure strikes me as great for a few of them, but even for the super talented ones, it's not perfect. They need exposure to things, and they need some teachers as role models. So you want them to have some structure.Dwarkesh Patel   If you read old books about education, there's a strong emphasis on moral instruction. Do you think that needs to be an important part of education? Tyler Cowen   I'd like to see more data. But I suspect the best moral instruction is the teachers actually being good people. I think that works. But again, I'd like to see the data. But somehow getting up and lecturing them about the seven virtues or something. That seems to me to be a waste of time, and maybe even counterproductive.Dwarkesh Patel   Now, the way I read your book about talent, it also seems like a critique of Bryan's book, The Case Against Education.Tyler Cowen   Ofcourse it is. Bryan describes me as the guy who's always torturing him, and in a sense, he's right.Dwarkesh Patel   Well, I guess more specifically, it seems that Bryan's book relies on the argument that you need a costly signal to show that you have talent, or you have intelligence, conscientiousness, and other traits. But if you can just learn that from a 1500 word essay and a zoom call, then maybe college is not about the signal.Tyler Cowen   In that sense, I'm not sure it's a good critique of Bryan. So for most people in the middle of the distribution, I don't think you can learn what I learned from Top 5 Emergent Ventures winners through an application and a half-hour zoom call. But that said, I think the talent book shows you my old saying: context is that which is scarce. And you're always testing people for their understanding of context. Most people need a fair amount of higher education to acquire that context, even if they don't remember the detailed content of their classes. So I think Bryan overlooks how much people actually learn when they go to school.Dwarkesh Patel   How would you go about measuring the amount of context of somebody who went to college? Is there something you can point to that says, “Oh, clearly they're getting some context, otherwise, they wouldn't be able to do this”?Tyler Cowen   I think if you meet enough people who didn't go to college, you'll see the difference, on average. Stressing the word average. Now there are papers measuring positive returns to higher education. I don't think they all show it's due to context, but I am persuaded by most of Brian's arguments that you don't remember the details of what you learned in class. Oh, you learn this about astronomy and Kepler's laws and opportunity costs, etc. but people can't reproduce that two or three years later. It seems pretty clear we know that. However, they do learn a lot of context and how to deal with different personality types.Dwarkesh Patel   Would you falsify this claim, though, that you are getting a lot of context? Is it just something that you had to qualitatively evaluate? What would have to be true in the world for you to conclude that the opposite is true? Tyler Cowen   Well, if you could show people remembered a lot of the facts they learned, and those facts were important for their jobs, neither of which I think is true. But in principle, they're demonstrable, then you would be much more skeptical about the context being the thing that mattered. But as it stands now, that's the residual. And it's probably what matters.Dwarkesh Patel   Right. So I thought that Bryan shared in the book that actually people don't even remember many of the basic facts that they learned in school.Tyler Cowen   Ofcourse they don't. But that's not the main thing they learn. They learn some vision of how the world works, how they fit into it, that they ought to have higher aspirations, that they can join the upper middle class, that they're supposed to have a particular kind of job. Here are the kinds of jerks you're going to meet along the way! Here's some sense of how dating markets work! Maybe you're in a fraternity, maybe you do a sport and so on. That's what you learned. Dwarkesh Patel   How did you spot Bryan?Tyler Cowen   He was in high school when I met him, and it was some kind of HS event. I think he made a point of seeking me out. And I immediately thought, “Well this guy is going to be something like, gotta keep track of this guy. Right away.”Dwarkesh Patel   Can you say more - what happened?Tyler Cowen   His level of enthusiasm, his ability to speak with respect to detail. He was just kind of bursting with everything. It was immediately evident, as it still is. Bryan has changed less than almost anyone else I know over what is now.. he could tell you how many years but it's been a whole bunch of decades.Dwarkesh Patel   Interesting. So if that's the case, then it would have been interesting to meet somebody who is like Bryan, but a 19 year old.Tyler Cowen   Yeah, and I did. I was right. Talent ScoutingDwarkesh Patel   To what extent do the best talent scouts inevitably suffer from Goodhart's Law? Has something like this happened to you where your approval gets turned into a credential? So a whole bunch of non-earnest people start applying, you get a whole bunch of adverse selection, and then it becomes hard for you to run your program.Tyler Cowen   It is not yet hard to run the program. If I needed to, I would just shut down applications. I've seen a modest uptick in bad applications, but it takes so little time to decide they're no good, or just not a good fit for us that it's not a problem. So the endorsement does get credentialized. Mostly, that's a good thing, right? Like you help the people you pick. And then you see what happens next and you keep on innovating as you need to.Dwarkesh Patel   You say in the book that the super talented are best at spotting other super talented individuals. And there aren't many of the super talented talent spotters to go around. So this sounds like you're saying that if you're not super talented, much of the book will maybe not do you a bunch of good. Results be weary should be maybe on the title. How much of talent spotting can be done by people who aren't themselves super talented?Tyler Cowen   Well, I'd want to see the context of what I wrote. But I'm well aware of the fact that in basketball, most of the greatest general managers were not great players. Someone like Jerry West, right? I'd say Pat Riley was not. So again, that's something you could study. But I don't generally think that the best talent scouts are themselves super talented.Dwarkesh Patel   Then what is the skill in particular that they have that if it's not the particular thing that they're working on?Tyler Cowen   Some intangible kind of intuition, where they feel the right thing in the people they meet. We try to teach people that intuition, the same way you might teach art or music appreciation. But it's not a science. It's not paint-by-numbers.Dwarkesh Patel   Even with all the advice in the book, and even with the stuff that isn't in the book that is just your inarticulable knowledge about how to spot talent, all your intuitions… How much of the variance in somebody's “True Potential” is just fundamentally unpredictable? If it's just like too chaotic of a thing to actually get your grips on. To what extent are we going to truly be able to spot talent?Tyler Cowen   I think it will always be an art. If you look at the success rates of VCs, it depends on what you count as the pool they're drawing from, but their overall rate of picking winners is not that impressive. And they're super high stakes. They're super smart. So I think it will mostly remain an art and not a science. People say, “Oh, genomics this, genomics that”. We'll see, but somehow I don't think that will change this.Dwarkesh Patel   You don't think getting a polygenic risk score of drive, for example, is going to be a thing that happens?Tyler Cowen   Maybe future genomics will be incredibly different from what we have now. Maybe. But it's not around the corner.Dwarkesh Patel   Yeah. Maybe the sample size is just so low and somebody is like “How are you even gonna collect that data? How are you gonna get the correlates of who the super talented people are?”Tyler Cowen   That, plus how genomic data interact with each other. You can apply machine learning and so on, but it just seems quite murky.Dwarkesh Patel   If the best people get spotted earlier, and you can tell who is a 10x engineer in a company and who is only a 1x engineer, or a 0.5x engineer, doesn't that mean that, in a way that inequality will get worse? Because now the 10x engineer knows that they're 10x, and everybody else knows that they're 10x, they're not going to be willing to cross subsidize and your other employees are going to be wanting to get paid proportionate to their skill.Tyler Cowen   Well, they might be paid more, but they'll also innovate more, right? So they'll create more benefits for people who are doing nothing. My intuition is that overall, inequality of wellbeing will go down. But you can't say that's true apriori. Inequality of income might also go up.Dwarkesh Patel   And then will the slack in the system go away for people who are not top performers? Like you can tell now, if we're getting better.Tyler Cowen   This has happened already in contemporary America. As I wrote, “Average is over.” Not due to super sophisticated talent spotting. Sometimes, it's simply the fact that in a lot of service sectors, you can measure output reasonably directly––like did you finish the computer program? Did it work? That has made it harder for people to get paid things they don't deserve.Dwarkesh Patel   I wonder if this leads to adverse selection in the areas where you can't measure how well somebody is doing. So the people who are kind of lazy and bums, they'll just go into places where output can't be measured. So these industries will just be overflowing with the people who don't want to work.Tyler Cowen   Absolutely. And then the people who are talented in the sectors, maybe they'll leave and start their own companies and earn through equity, and no one is really ever measuring their labor power. Still, what they're doing is working and they're making more from it.Dwarkesh Patel   If talent is partly heritable, then the better you get at spotting talent, over time, will the social mobility in society go down?Tyler Cowen   Depends how you measure social mobility. Is it relative to the previous generation? Most talent spotters don't know a lot about parents, like I don't know anything about your parents at all! The other aspect of spotting talent is hoping the talent you mobilize does great things for people not doing anything at all. That's the kind of automatic social mobility they get. But if you're measuring quintiles across generations, the intuition could go either way.Dwarkesh Patel   But this goes back to wondering whether this is a one time gain or not. Maybe initially they can help the people who are around them. Somebody in Brazil, they help people around them. But once you've found them, they're gonna go to those clusters you talked about, and they're gonna be helping the people with San Francisco who don't need help. So is this a one time game then?Tyler Cowen   Many people from India seem to give back to India in a very consistent way. People from Russia don't seem to do that. That may relate to the fact that Russia is in terrible shape, and India has a brighter future. So it will depend. But I certainly think there are ways of arranging things where people give back a lot.Dwarkesh Patel   Let's talk about Emergent Ventures. Sure. So I wonder: if the goal of Emergent Ventures is to raise aspirations, does that still work given the fact that you have to accept some people but reject other people? In Bayesian terms, the updates up have to equal the updates down? In some sense, you're almost transferring a vision edge from the excellent to the truly great. You see what I'm saying?Tyler Cowen   Well, you might discourage the people you turn away. But if they're really going to do something, they should take that as a challenge. And many do! Like “Oh, I was rejected by Harvard, I had to go to UChicago, but I decided, I'm going to show those b******s.” I think we talked about that a few minutes ago. So if I just crushed the spirits of those who are rejected, I don't feel too bad about that. They should probably be in some role anyway where they're just working for someone.Dwarkesh Patel   But let me ask you the converse of that which is, if you do accept somebody, are you worried that if one of the things that drives people is getting rejected, and then wanting to prove that you will reject them wrong, are you worried that by accepting somebody when they're 15, you're killing that thing? The part of them that wants to get some kind of approval?Tyler Cowen   Plenty of other people will still reject them right? Not everyone accepts them every step of the way. Maybe they're just awesome. LeBron James is basketball history and past a certain point, it just seems everyone wanted him for a bunch of decades now. I think deliberately with a lot of candidates, you shouldn't encourage them too much. I make a point of chewing out a lot of people just to light a fire under them, like “what you're doing. It's not gonna work.” So I'm all for that selectively.Dwarkesh Patel   Why do you think that so many of the people who have led Emergent Ventures are interested in Effective Altruism?Tyler Cowen   There is a moment right now for Effective Altruism, where it is the thing. Some of it is political polarization, the main parties are so stupid and offensive, those energies will go somewhere. Some of that in 1970 maybe went to libertarianism. Libertarianism has been out there for too long. It doesn't seem to address a lot of current problems, like climate change or pandemics very well. So where should the energy go? The Rationality community gets some of it and that's related to EA, as I'm sure you know. The tech startup community gets some of it. That's great! It seems to be working pretty well to me. Like I'm not an EA person. But maybe they deserve a lot of it.Dwarkesh Patel   But you don't think it's persistent. You think it comes and goes?Tyler Cowen   I think it will come and go. But I think EA will not vanish. Like libertarianism, it will continue for quite a long time.Dwarkesh Patel   Is there any movement that has attracted young people? That has been persistent over time? Or did they all fade? Tyler Cowen   Christianity. Judaism. Islam. They're pretty persistent. [laughs]Dwarkesh Patel   So to the extent that being more religious makes you more persistent, can we view the criticism of EA saying that it's kind of like a religion as a plus?Tyler Cowen   Ofcourse, yeah! I think it's somewhat like a religion. To me, that's a plus, we need more religions. I wish more of the religions we needed were just flat-out religions. But in the meantime, EA will do,Money, Deceit, and Emergent VenturesDwarkesh Patel   Are there times when somebody asks you for a grant and you view that as a negative signal? Let's say they're especially when well off: they're a former Google engineer, they wanna start a new project, and they're asking you for a grant. Do you worry that maybe they're too risk averse? Do you want them to put their own capital into it? Or do you think that maybe they were too conformist because they needed your approval before they went ahead?Tyler Cowen   Things like this have happened. And I asked people flat out, “Why do you want this grant from me?” And it is a forcing question in the sense that if their answer isn't good, I won't give it to them. Even though they might have a good level of talent, good ideas, whatever, they have to be able to answer that question in a credible way. Some can, some can't.Dwarkesh Patel   I remember that the President of the University of Chicago many years back said that if you rejected the entire class of freshmen that are coming in and accepted the next 1500 that they had to reject that year, then there'll be no difference in the quality of the admits.Tyler Cowen   I would think UChicago is the one school where that's not true. I agree that it's true for most schools.Dwarkesh Patel   Do you think that's also true of Emergent Ventures?Tyler Cowen   No. Not at all.Dwarkesh Patel   How good is a marginal reject?Tyler Cowen   Not good. It's a remarkably bimodal distribution as I perceive it, and maybe I'm wrong. But there aren't that many cases where I'm agonizing and if I'm agonizing I figure it probably should be a no.Dwarkesh Patel   I guess that makes it even tougher if you do get rejected. Because it wasn't like, “oh, you weren't a right fit for the job,” or “you almost made the cut.” It's like, “No, we're actually just assessing your potential and not some sort of fit for the job.” Not only were you just not on the edge of potential, but you were also way on the other edge of the curve.Tyler Cowen   But a lot of these rejected people and projects, I don't think they're spilling tears over it. Like you get an application. Someone's in Akron, Ohio, and they want to start a nonprofit dog shelter. They saw EV on the list of things you can apply to. They apply to a lot of things and maybe never get funding. It's like people who enter contests or something, they apply to EV. Nothing against non-profit dog shelters, but that's kind of a no, right? I genuinely don't know their response, but I don't think they walk away from the experience with some deeper model of what they should infer from the EV decision.Dwarkesh Patel   How much does the money part of Emergent Ventures matter? If you just didn't give them the money?Tyler Cowen   There's a whole bunch of proposals that really need the money for capital costs, and then it matters a lot. For a lot of them, the money per se doesn't matter.Dwarkesh Patel   Right, then. So what is the function of return for that? Do you like 10x the money, or do you add .1x the money for some of these things? Do you think they add up to seemingly different results? Tyler Cowen   I think a lot of foundations give out too many large grants and not enough small grants. I hope I'm at an optimum. But again, I don't have data to tell you. I do think about this a lot, and I think small grants are underrated.Dwarkesh Patel   Why are women often better at detecting deceit?Tyler Cowen   I would assume for biological and evolutionary reasons that there are all these men trying to deceive them, right? The cost of a pregnancy is higher for a woman than for a man on average, by quite a bit. So women will develop defense mechanisms that men maybe don't have as much.Dwarkesh Patel   One thing I heard from somebody I was brainstorming these questions with–– she just said that maybe it's because women just discuss personal matters more. And so therefore, they have a greater library.Tyler Cowen   Well, that's certainly true. But that's subordinate to my explanation, I'd say. There are definitely a lot of intermediate steps. Things women do more of that help them be insightful.Building Writing StaminaDwarkesh Patel   Why is writing skill so important to you?Tyler Cowen   Well, one thing is that I'm good at judging it. Across scales, I'm very bad at judging, so there's nothing on the EV application testing for your lacrosse skill. But look, writing is a form of thinking. And public intellectuals are one of the things I want to support. Some of the companies I admire are ones with writing cultures like Amazon or Stripe. So writing it is! I'm a good reader. So you're going to be asked to write.Dwarkesh Patel   Do you think it's a general fact that writing correlates with just general competence? Tyler Cowen   I do, but especially the areas that I'm funding. It's strongly related. Whether it's true for everything is harder to say.Dwarkesh Patel   Can stamina be increased?Tyler Cowen   Of course. It's one of the easier things to increase. I don't think you can become superhuman in your energy and stamina if you're not born that way. But I think almost everyone could increase by 30% to 50%, some notable amount. Dwarkesh Patel   Okay, that's interesting.Tyler Cowen   Put aside maybe people with disabilities or something but definitely when it comes to people in regular circumstances.Dwarkesh Patel   Okay. I think it's interesting because in the blog post from Robin Hanson about stamina, I think his point of view was that this is just something that's inherent to people.Tyler Cowen   Well, I don't think that's totally false. The people who have superhuman stamina are born that way. But there are plenty of origins. I mean, take physical stamina. You don't think people can train more and run for longer? Of course they can. It's totally proven. So it would be weird if this rule held for all these organs but not your brain. That seems quite implausible. Especially for someone like Robin, where your brain is just this other organ that you're gonna download or upload or goodness knows what with it. He's a physicalist if there ever was one.Dwarkesh Patel   Have you read Haruki Murakami's book on running?Tyler Cowen   No, I've been meaning to. I'm not sure how interesting I'll find it. I will someday. I like his stuff a lot.Dwarkesh Patel   But what I found really interesting about it was just how linked building physical stamina is for him to building up the stamina to write a lot.Tyler Cowen   Magnus Carlsen would say the same with chess. Being in reasonable physical shape is important for your mental stamina, which is another kind of simple proof that you can boost your mental stamina.When Does Intelligence Start to Matter?Dwarkesh Patel   After reading the book, I was inclined to think that intelligence matters more than I previously thought. Not less. You say in the book that intelligence has convex returns and that it matters especially for areas like inventors. Then you also say that if you look at some of the most important things in society, something like what Larry and Sergey did, they're basically inventors, right? So in many of the most important things in society, intelligence matters more because of the increasing returns. It seems like with Emergent Ventures, you're trying to pick the people who are at the tail. You're not looking for a barista at Starbucks. So it seems like you should care about intelligence more, given the evidence there. Tyler Cowen   More than who does? I feel what the book presents is, in fact, my view. So kind of by definition, I agree with that view. But yes, there's a way of reading it where intelligence really matters a lot. But it's only for a relatively small number of jobs.Dwarkesh Patel   Maybe you just started off with a really high priori on intelligence, and that's why you downgraded?Tyler Cowen   There are a lot of jobs that I actually hire for in actual life, where smarts are not the main thing I look for.Dwarkesh Patel   Does the convexity of returns on intelligence suggest that maybe the multiplicative model is wrong? Because if the multiplicative model is right, you would expect to see decreasing returns and putting your stats on one skill. You'd want to diversify more, right?Tyler Cowen   I think the convexity of returns to intelligence is embedded in a multiplicative model, where the IQ returns only cash out for people good at all these other things. For a lot of geniuses, they just can't get out of bed in the morning, and you're stuck, and you should write them off.Dwarkesh Patel   So you cite the data that Sweden collects from everybody that enters the military there. The CEOs are apparently not especially smart. But one thing I found interesting in that same data was that Swedish soccer players are pretty smart. The better a soccer player is, the smarter they are. You've interviewed professional basketball players turned public intellectuals on your podcast. They sound extremely smart to me. What is going on there? Why, anecdotally, and with some limited amounts of evidence, does it seem that professional athletes are smarter than you would expect?Tyler Cowen   I'm a big fan of the view that top-level athletic performance is super cognitively intense and that most top athletes are really extraordinarily smart. I don't just mean smart on the court (though, obviously that), but smart more broadly. This is underrated. I think Michelle Dawson was the one who talked me into this, but absolutely, I'm with you all the way.Dwarkesh Patel   Do you think this is just mutational load or––Tyler Cowen   You actually have to be really smart to figure out things like how to lead a team, how to improve yourself, how to practice, how to outsmart the opposition, all these other things. Maybe it's not the only way to get there, but it is very G loaded. You certainly see some super talented athletes who just go bust. Or they may destroy themselves with drugs: there are plenty of tales like that, and you don't have to look hard. Dwarkesh Patel   Are there other areas where you wouldn't expect it to be G loaded but it actually is?Tyler Cowen   Probably, but there's so many! I just don't know, but sports is something in my life I followed. So I definitely have opinions about it. They seem incredibly smart to me when they're interviewed. They're not always articulate, and they're sort of talking themselves into biased exposure. But I heard Michael Jordan in the 90s, and I thought, “That guy's really smart.” So I think he is! Look at Charles Barkley. He's amazing, right? There's hardly anyone I'd rather listen to, even about talent, than Charles Barkley. It's really interesting. He's not that tall, you can't say, “oh, he succeeded. Because he's seven foot two,” he was maybe six foot four tops. And they called him the Round Mound of Rebound. And how did he do that? He was smart. He figured out where the ball was going. The weaknesses of his opponents, he had to nudge them the right way, and so on. Brilliant guy.Dwarkesh Patel   What I find really remarkable is that (not just with athletes, but in many other professions), if you interview somebody who is at the top of that field, they come off really really smart! For example, YouTubers and even sex workers.Tyler Cowen   So whoever is like the top gardener, I expect I would be super impressed by them.Spotting Talent (Counter)signalsDwarkesh Patel   Right. Now all your books are in some way about talent, right? Let me read you the following passage from An Economist Gets Lunch, and I want you to tell me how we can apply this insight to talent. “At a fancy fancy restaurant, the menu is well thought out. The time and attention of the kitchen are scarce. An item won't be on the menu unless there's a good reason for its presence. If it sounds bad, it probably tastes especially good?”Tyler Cowen   That's counter-signaling, right? So anything that is very weird, they will keep on the menu because it has a devoted set of people who keep on ordering it and appreciate it. That's part of the talent of being a chef, you can come up with such things. Dwarkesh Patel   How do we apply this to talent? Tyler Cowen   Well, with restaurants, you have selection pressure where you're only going to ones that have cleared certain hurdles. So this is true for talent only for talents who are established. If you see a persistent NBA player who's a very poor free throw shooter like Shaquille O'Neal was, you can more or less assume they're really good at something else. But for people who are not established, there's not the same selection pressure so there's not an analogous inference you can draw.Dwarkesh Patel   So if I show up to an Emergent Ventures conference, and I meet somebody, and they don't seem especially impressive with the first impression, then I should believe their work is especially impressive. Tyler Cowen Yes, absolutely, yes. Dwarkesh Patel   Okay, so my understanding of your book Creative Destruction is that maybe on average, cultural diversity will go down. But in special niches, the diversity and ingenuity will go up. Can I apply the same insight to talent? Maybe two random college grads will have similar skill sets over time, but if you look at people on the tails, will their skills and knowledge become even more specialized and even more diverse?Tyler Cowen   There are a lot of different presuppositions in your question. So first, is cultural diversity going up or down? That I think is multi-dimensional. Say different cities in different countries will be more like each other over time.. that said, the genres they produce don't have to become more similar. They're more similar in the sense that you can get sushi in each one. But novel cuisine in Dhaka and Senegal might be taking a very different path from novel cuisine in Tokyo, Japan. So what happens with cultural diversity.. I think the most reliable generalization is that it tends to come out of larger units. Small groups and tribes and linguistic groups get absorbed. Those people don't stop being creative and other venues, but there are fewer unique isolated cultures, and much more thickly diverse urban creativity. That would be the main generalization I would put forward. So if you wanted to apply that generalization to talent, I think in a funny way, we come back to my earlier point: talent just tends to be geographically extremely well clustered. That's not the question you asked, but it's how I would reconfigure the pieces of it.Dwarkesh Patel   Interesting. What do you suggest about finding talent in a globalized world? In particular, if it's cheaper to find talent because of the internet, does that mean that you should be selecting more mediocre candidates?Tyler Cowen   I think it means you should be more bullish on immigrants from Africa. It's relatively hard to get out of Africa to the United States in most cases. That's a sign the person put in a lot of effort and ability. Maybe an easy country to come here from would be Canada, all other things equal. Again, I'd want this to be measured. The people who come from countries that are hard to come from like India, actually, the numbers are fairly high, but the roots are mostly pretty gated.Dwarkesh Patel   Is part of the reason that talent is hard to spot and find today that we have an aging population?  So then we would have more capital, more jobs, more mentorship available for young people coming up, than there are young people.Tyler Cowen   I don't think we're really into demographic decline yet. Not in the United States. Maybe in Japan, that would be true. But it seems to me, especially with the internet, there's more 15-year-old talent today than ever before, by a lot, not just by little. You see this in chess, right? Where we can measure performance very well. There's a lot more young talent from many different places, including the US. So, aging hasn't mattered yet. Maybe for a few places, but not here.Dwarkesh Patel   What do you think will change in talent spotting as society becomes older?Tyler Cowen   It depends on what you mean by society. I think the US, unless it totally screws up on immigration, will always have a very seriously good flow of young people that we don't ever have to enter the aging equilibrium the way Japan probably already has. So I don't know what will change. Then there's work from a distance, there's hiring from a distance, funding from a distance. As you know, there's EV India, and we do that at a distance. So I don't think we're ever going to enter that world..Dwarkesh Patel   But then what does it look like for Japan? Is part of the reason that Japanese cultures and companies are arranged the way they are and do the recruitment the way they do linked to their demographics? Tyler Cowen   That strikes me as a plausible reason. I don't think I know enough to say, but it wouldn't surprise me if that turned out to be the case.Dwarkesh Patel   To what extent do you need a sort of “great man ethos” in your culture in order to empower the top talent? Like if you have too much political and moral egalitarianism, you're not going to give great people the real incentive and drive to strive to be great.Tyler Cowen   You've got to say “great man or great woman ethos”, or some other all-purpose word we wish to use. I worry much less about woke ideology than a lot of people I know. It's not my thing, but it's something young people can rebel against. If that keeps you down, I'm not so impressed by you. I think it's fine. Let the woke reign, people can work around them.Dwarkesh Patel   But overall, if you have a culture or like Europe, do you think that has any impact on––Tyler Cowen   Europe has not woken up in a lot of ways, right? Europe is very chauvinist and conservative in the literal sense, and often quite old fashioned depending on what you're talking about. But Europe, I would say, is much less woke than the United States. I wouldn't say that's their main problem, but you can't say, “oh, they don't innovate because they're too woke”, like hang out with some 63 year old Danish guys and see how woke you think they are once everyone's had a few drinks.Dwarkesh Patel   My question wasn't about wokeism. I just meant in general, if you have an egalitarian society.Tyler Cowen   I think of Europe as less egalitarian. I think they have bad cultural norms for innovation. They're culturally so non-egalitarian. Again, it depends where but Paris would be the extreme. There, everyone is classified right? By status, and how you need to wear your sweater the right way, and this and that. Now, how innovative is Paris? Actually, maybe more than people think. But I still think they have too few dimensions of status competition. That's a general problem in most of Europe–– too few dimensions of status competition, not enough room for the proverbial village idiot.Dwarkesh Patel   Interesting. You say in the book, that questions tend to degrade over time if you don't replace them. I find it interesting that Y Combinator has kept the same questions since they were started in 2005. And of course, your co-author was a partner at Y Combinator. Do you think that works for Y Combinator or do you think they're probably making a mistake?Tyler Cowen   I genuinely don't know. There are people who will tell you that Y Combinator, while still successful, has become more like a scalable business school and less like attracting all the top weirdos who do amazing things. Again, I'd want to see data before asserting that myself, but you certainly hear it a lot. So it could be that Y Combinator is a bit stale. But still in a good sense. Like Harvard is stale, right? It dates from the 17th century. But it's still amazing. MIT is stale. Maybe Y Combinator has become more like those groups.Dwarkesh Patel   Do you think that will happen to Emergent Ventures eventually?Tyler Cowen   I don't think so because it has a number of unique features built in from the front. So a very small number of evaluators too. It might grow a little bit, but it's not going to grow that much. I'm not paid to do it, so that really limits how much it's going to scale. There's not a staff that has to be carried where you're captured by the staff, there is no staff. There's a bit of free riding on staff who do other things, but there's no sense of if the program goes away, all my buddies on staff get laid off. No. So it's kind of pop up, and low cost of exit. Whenever that time comes.Dwarkesh Patel   Do you personally have questions that you haven't put in the book or elsewhere because you want them to be fresh? For asking somebody who's applying to her for the grant? Tyler Cowen   Well, I didn't when we wrote the book. So we put everything in there that we were thinking of, but over time, we've developed more. I don't generally give them out during interviews, because you have to keep some stock. So yeah, there's been more since then, but we weren't holding back at the time.Dwarkesh Patel It's like a comedy routine. You gotta write a new one each year.Tyler Cowen That's right. But when your shows are on the air, you do give your best jokes, right?Will Reading Cowen's Book Help You Win Emergent Ventures?Dwarkesh Patel Let's say someone applying to emergent ventures reads your book. Are they any better off? Or are they perhaps worse off because maybe they become misleading or have a partial view into what's required of them?Tyler Cowen   I hope they're not better off in a way, but probably they are. I hope they use it to understand their own talent better and present it in a better way. Not just to try to manipulate the system. But most people aren't actually that good at manipulating that kind of system so I'm not too worried.Dwarkesh Patel   In a sense, if they can manipulate the system, that's a positive signal of some kind.Tyler Cowen   Like, if you could fool me –– hey, what else have you got to say, you know? [laughs]Dwarkesh Patel   Are you worried that when young people will encounter you now, they're going to think of you as sort of a talent judge and a good one at that so they're maybe going to be more self aware than whether––Tyler Cowen   Yes. I worry about the effect of this on me. Maybe a lot of my interactions become less genuine, or people are too self conscious, or too stilted or something.Dwarkesh Patel   Is there something you can do about that? Or is that just baked in the gig?Tyler Cowen   I don't know, if you do your best to try to act genuine, whatever that means, maybe you can avoid it a bit or delay it at least a bit. But a lot of it I don't think you can avoid. In part, you're just cashing in. I'm 60 and I don't think I'll still be doing this when I'm 80. So if I have like 18 years of cashing in, maybe it's what I should be doing.Identifying talent earlyDwarkesh Patel   To what extent are the principles of finding talent timeless? If you're looking for let's say, a general for the French Revolution, how much of this does the advice change? Are the basic principles the same over time?Tyler Cowen   Well, one of the key principles is context. You need to focus on how the sector is different. But if you're doing that, then I think at the meta level the principles broadly stay the same.Dwarkesh Patel   You have a really interesting book about autism and systematizers. You think Napoleon was autistic?Tyler Cowen   I've read several biographies of him and haven't come away with that impression, but you can't rule it out. Who are the biographers? Now it gets back to our question of: How valuable is history? Did the biographers ever meet Napoleon? Well, some of them did, but those people had such weak.. other intellectual categories. The modern biography is written by Andrew Roberts, or whoever you think is good, I don't know. So how can I know?Dwarkesh Patel   Right? Again, the issue is that the details that stick in my mind from reading the biography are the ones that make him seem autistic, right?Tyler Cowen   Yes. There's a tendency in biographies to storify things, and that's dangerous too. Dwarkesh Patel   How general across a pool is talent or just competence of any kind? If you look at somebody like Peter Thiel–– investor, great executive, great thinker even, certainly Napoleon, and I think it was some mathematician either Lagrangian or Laplace, who said that he (Napoleon) could have been a mathematician if he wanted to. I don't know if that's true, but it does seem that the top achievers in one field seem to be able to move across fields and be top achievers in other fields. I

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The Fully Mindful
Everything is Impossible and Possible: A Conversation with Dr. Chris Willard on Mindfulness, Recovery & Presence

The Fully Mindful

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2022 45:32


It's kind of fascinating how much we don't really know, isn't it? Sometimes, though, when we look back, we can't believe what we didn't see or appreciate. Imagine the surprise at being whisked away in your early 20s by your parents in an effort to save you from yourself and try to get you on the path sobriety, only to find yourself at a retreat with the great Thich That Hanh. Just let that gel for a moment. It's kind of like being whisked away to learn a thing or 2 about basketball when you've hardly played, only to find yourself at a basketball camp with LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Damian Lillard and Shaq. Or a writing camp to find Toni Morrison, Haruki Murakami, and John Irving. You get the picture. Enter Dr. Chris Willard, now a Harvard psychologist, author of 20 books including Growing Up Mindful and Alphabreaths--and soon out, AlphaBreaths 2. Now sober for decades, and trained in mindfulness and psychology, Dr. Willard talks early recovery, trauma, mindfulness, working with kids and adults, and how, as the title of the episode says, everything is impossible and possible, all at once. Truly a conversation you won't want to miss. Plus, I promise to share the mix-tape Chris mentions near the end....as soon as he sends it! More about Dr. Chris Willard and how to find him: website: https://www.drchristopherwillard.com insta: https://www.instagram.com/drchriswillard/ amazon author page AlphaBreaths Too, out September 27, 2022 Get Certified in Mindfulness for Kids & Teens with Dr. Willard with Growing Up Mindful --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/melissa060/support

Happily Booked: A Bookcast
Becky read 5 books while she was in Ohio!

Happily Booked: A Bookcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2022 94:06


Hey friends! If you've made it here, to the show notes, I hope that means you're in it for the long haul! This was by far our longest recording (I also think it was the funniest). It began at 2 hours before editing so just be grateful we didn't keep EVERYTHING in this episode. We just missed each other so much and had to catch up! Thanks for joining us, we love you all. Insta/TikTok - happilybookedpodcast / Facebook -  Happily Booked PodcastEmail - happilybookedpodcast@gmail.com (THIS IS WHERE TO SEND VOICE CLIPS/PARAGRAPHS FOR BOOKCLUB)Socials for The Sideways Sheriff, our only sponsor :) Insta/TikTok: sideways_sheriff / Facebook - Sideways Sheriff / Youtube - The Sideways SheriffHUGE spoiler alert for anyone who has NOT read The Hunger Games trilogy by Suzanne Collins. Starting at 51 Minutes and goes until 1 Hour and 4 Minutes. Oof, so sorry. It just sort of happened. Brooke says “6 feet apart” as opposed to the correct name of the book/movie, which is “Five Feet Apart”. Sorry, she was probably assuming that it's supposed to be 6 feet apart since that was what everyone was supposed to do during the reign of Covid. Theres also a great song by Luke Combs called 6 feet apart that was written during Covid.  4:15 - Ray's Indoor Mountain Bike Park in Cleveland, Ohio13:32 - See our Instagram post! Goblin by Josh Malerman is our book club winner!13:55 - Goblin by Josh Malerman14:02 - The Hobbit by J. R. R. Tolkien14:22 - The House With A Clock In Its Walls by John Bellairs14:29 - The Hush by John Hart14:33 - Lock Every Door by Riley Sager16:43 - The Seventh Sinner & The Murders Of Richard The Third by Elizabeth Peters 17:39 - The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson / The Girl Who Played With Fire17:51 - Me Before You by Jo Jo Moyes / After You / Still Me / Paris For One 20:32 - Find Your Path by Carrie Underwood23:52 -  A Court Of Silver Flames by Sarah J. Maas (Book 5) / 1. A Court Of Thorns and Roses / 2. A Court Of Mist and Fury / 3. A Court Of Wings and Ruin / 4. A Court Of Frost and Starlight30:00 - The Simple Wild by K. A. Tucker32:38 - Abide Embroidery Co on Etsy https://www.etsy.com/shop/AbideEmbroideryCo33:05 - Embroidery Kit from Hobby Lobby-Home Sweet Home33:33 - Bee Hive Crochet Kit from Hobby Lobby36:18 - Harry Potter Hogwarts House quiz on Pottermore38:30 - Deadly Brew, A Dewberry Farm Mystery by Karen MacInerney39:30 - The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins / Catching Fire / Mockingjay39:47 - The Hunger Games movie adaptation 39:53 - Pizza, Love, And Other Stuff That Made Me Famous by Kathryn Williams40:05 / 47:18 - Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone by J. K. Rowling /The Chamber Of Secrets43:15 - The God Of Small Things by Arundhati Roy44:48 - The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini 45:18 - The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood45:57 - The MaddAddam Trilogy by Margaret Atwood46:07 - Mad Max Movies47:01 - The Testaments by Margaret Atwood50:38 - Order Of The Phoenix 51:39 - The Hunger Games Trilogy Spoilers1:05:49 - The Ballad Of Songbirds And Snakes by Suzanne Collins1:07:17 - Kafka On The Shore by Haruki Murakami 1:08:15 - The Wolf And The Woodsman by Ava Reid 1:10:51 - Where The Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens 1:11:40 - Where The Crawdads Sing Movie Adaptation 1:15:49 / 1:17:30 - Alien: Isolation by Keith R. A. DeCandido1:16:15 - Redwall Series by Brian Jacques 1:18:27 - Five Feet Apart by Mikki Daughtry, Rachael Lippincott, & Tobias Iaconis / Five Feet Apart Movie Adaptation 1:19:07 - Vanishing Fleece: Adventures In American Wool by Clara Parkes 1:19:57 - https://www.expressionfiberarts.com/