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Garth Fisher is the National Training Director of the Wildland Fire Management branch for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Garth also services as the Chair and BIA Representative on the National Wildfire Coordinating Group and he has over 15 years of wildland fire operations and wildland fire management. In this week's episode, Garth explains a little bit about what the BIA agency does and how they pride themselves on being able to provide ongoing leadership training to their staff. If you're looking to get started in wildland fire, this is an episode you don't want to miss!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Garth's background. [2:55] How did Garth first get introduced to this industry? [7:10] What made Garth pick wildland firefighting? [10:35] What types of responsibilities does Garth have as the director of fire training? [12:35] What does the BIA agency do? [16:45] Garth explains some common ways people get into wildland firefighting. [17:45] It's important to set the right expectations for yourself. This is extremely difficult work to do! [20:25] Garth shares some of the memorable experiences he's had on the job over the years.  [22:35] What has Garth learned about people and teams? [23:50] If you want to move forward, you need to make yourself uncomfortable. [27:00] Has Garth run into any close calls before? [30:05] What type of training opportunities are available at BIA? [35:30] Garth shares some of the good surprises he's had along the way. [38:25] What types of mentors has Garth had over the years?   Mentioned in This Episode: Bia.gov

Katie Lighthall is the Coordinator for the National Cohesive Wildland Fire Strategy in the Western Region. She assists federal, state, local, and tribal agencies as well as non-governmental organizations so that they can be ready in case of a large fire disaster. When you're coordinating for multiple agencies, it's important that everybody is on the same page as quickly as possible. Katie shares her experiences on today's show and showcases how she got into this field, in the first place!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Katie's background. [3:35] How did Katie first get introduced to this industry? [8:15] What kind of training do you need to get started in this work? [11:0] When Katie had her first child, she still wanted to be involved with the fire department, but without taking calls in the middle of the night. [14:05] Katie explains why we need a national cohesive wildland fire management strategy. [20:50] Large fires are not handled by local firefighters. When big fires happen, they call state or even federal crews. This means there are multiple agencies coming in to tackle the fire. [23:50] Everybody has a small part to play when it comes to wildland fire. [27:25] What is the end-vision for the cohesive strategy? [32:15] You need to evacuate your home earlier on red-flag warning day if you are caring for someone who has a disability and depends on you. Don't wait till you receive an evacuation notice. The system is overwhelmed and by the time they get to you, it could be too late. [36:25] What do leaders need to do better? [41:15] What is Katie the proudest of about her career?   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.fed.us “California fire forces senior living community evacuations”

John Miller is the State Wildland Fire Chief for the Virginia Department of Forestry. John is responsible for oversight and state-wide coordination of the agency's wildfire control, emergency management, and prescribed burning programs. John shares some tips about how you can coordinate with multiple government agencies so that everyone is on the same page when a fire is happening and he shares some close calls he's gotten while he was in the field.   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about John's background. [3:15] How did John first get started in forestry? [11:55] John explains why controlled burns are necessary for longleaf pine trees. [17:10] How did John rise through the ranks and get the position he is in now? [22:35] What does John enjoy the most about being in wildland fire? [26:35] There's a lot of coordination and collaborative work between agencies when it comes to wildland fire, how does it get all done? [28:55] You've got to build connections between people and agencies long before the fire starts. [29:20] What kinds of job opportunities are available for those that are interested in wildland fire? [31:50] What types of qualifications do you need? [34:30] What types of important leadership lessons has John learned along the way? [37:25] How does leadership change as you transition into different job roles and leadership positions? [40:50] John shares some memorable stories and a tale of caution about what you need to be aware of when fighting fire. [47:25] John shares some advice for those who are looking to get started in wildland fire. [49:45] What is John most proud of in his career?   Mentioned in This Episode: Sref.info

Kristel Johnson is the Support Services Program Leader for the USDA Forest Service. Kristel started her career in 1990 as a temporary firefighter and, later, she attended the Wildland Firefighter Apprenticeship Academy. Over her career, Kristel has worked in wildland firefighting, fire training, district management, employee relations, human resources, critical instant stress management, and more. In 2006, Kristel served as a family liaison for a fallen colleague and it opened her eyes to how the agency manages tragedy. Find out more in this week's episode.   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:00] A quick intro about Kristel's background. [3:25] How did Kristel first get interested in firefighting? [5:15] What does Kristel currently do for the USDA? [7:30] The agency has never really had a program to support colleagues and families of the fallen men and women in this field. [9:50] Kristel shares how the loss of colleagues and tragedies have affected her over the years. [12:10] Kristel realized that the agency had a lot more to do in terms of training and education and preparing for tragic incidents. [17:25] Kristel developed the course, ‘You Will Not Stand Alone' to help agency members feel more connected to one another and supportive during tragic events that have happened in their community. [19:55] What's it like being a wildland firefighter? [21:25] How can someone get into wildland fire? [24:00] How can someone specialize or find a specialty in this field? [24:55] Kristel shares some of the mentors she's had over the years. [33:05] What advice does Kristel have for people who are just getting started in their career? [35:15] What is Kristel most proud of?   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.fed.us Srs.fs.usda.gov

Robyn Broyles is the Fire Communication and Education Specialist for the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the national interagency fire center in Boise, Idaho. In Robyn's role, she focuses on the accomplishments of the Indian country's wildland fire management and aviation programs. Robyn is also a tribal member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. Find out more about Robyn and her role with the BIA on this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Robyn's background. [3:40] Robyn shares what she does for the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). [8:15] Robyn gives an insightful overview of what the fire management team does. [12:05] Everything is tightly woven together, you can't have fire management without timber management, and you can't have timber management without vegetation management. [16:20] Has Robyn moved around a lot due to her job? [20:00] Robyn had to overcome her fear of heights during training. [24:55] What is the wildland fire community like? [27:45] How can someone get started in wildland fire? [31:15] Robyn shares how you can get experience in this field. You don't have to start from the bottom. The fire community is always looking for mid-level experience! [34:25] What kinds of challenges has Robyn faced so far in her career? [38:15] What's it like being part of the National Wildfire Coordinating Group (NWCG)? [41:45] Robyn shares the kinds of mentors she's had over the years who have made an impact on her.   Mentioned in This Episode: Bia.govBia.gov/jobs Nwcg.gov

Dan Smith is the Fire Director for the National Association of State Foresters. He is the Wildland Fire Representative for 50 states and 8 territories at the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, Idaho. In this role, Dan works collaboratively with the Federal Wildland Fire Directors and serves as a member of the National Wildfire Coordinating Group, which provides wildland fire response on a national level. Dan shares leadership advice, some of the challenges the fire community is facing, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:55] A quick intro about Dan's background. [3:25] How did Dan first get started in his fire career? [7:35] Dan shares a little bit of history about NWCG. [10:55] What are some of the best ways to get qualified in this field? [14:35] What kind of work is Dan up to these days? [17:40] Dan shares a little bit about his work history and some of the most memorable moments of his career. [21:40] What are some of the rewards and challenges of being in wildland fire? [29:00] Each fire has a lesson learned; how does Dan transfer those lessons into practical training for his team? [31:45] Where is the direction that the fire community is going and what additional challenges has the community come across, over the years? [35:00] Getting communities educated about forest health is an uphill climb. [37:50] Dan offers some leadership advice, wisdom, and tips.   Mentioned in This Episode: Nifc.gov Nwcg.gov Stateforesters.org

Brian Pisarek is the Advanced Wildlife Instructor for the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and he is also the Structured Fire Chief for the City of Aitkin, Minnesota. Brian has a B.S. in Forestry and has an extensive list of fire qualifications, too! In today's episode, Brian shares a little bit about how to keep yourself safe during a wildland fire, how to best manage family expectations when you've got to abruptly cancel plans to fight a fire, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Brian's background. [3:30] How did Brian first get started in his fire career? [7:15] Be hungry for new opportunities. [8:00] Firefighting is dangerous work; how does Brian manage the expectations of his friends and family? [10:00] Brian has had a few close calls when it comes to fighting fire. It's important to stay up-to-date with safety information and listen closely to your safety officer. [10:50] What kind of work does Brian do now? [11:35] What's unique about the firefighting community? [12:55] How can young and aspiring professionals get started in this career? [14:40] Communication is what clogs the system. A good leader needs to know how to communicate clearly and effectively. [18:35] What's the difference in the work environment when it comes to wildland fire vs. structured fire? [20:35] What kinds of mentors has Brian had over the years? [22:45] How does the fire community manage their work/life balance? [26:20] What is Brian most proud of about his career?   Mentioned in This Episode: Dnr.state.mn.us

Will Novy-Hildesley is the Executive Director of the North American Forest Partnership (NAFP), a diverse set of people and organizations who are passionate about the future of forests. NAFP is also the driver of #forestproud, where they collect stories from all over the world of what the forest means to individuals and natural resource professionals. Find out more about what NAFP is doing and how you can get involved in their amazing work in this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Will's background. [3:40] How did Will first get into natural resources? [7:15] There aren't many sectors where people are so passionate about what they do that they stay with one company throughout their entire career. [10:25] People are losing touch with their natural environment and there are consequences to that. [11:00] Human beings are meant to spend time in nature. [11:50] Will shares the differences he has noticed between the U.S. and the UK. [17:25] How did the North American Forest Partnership (NAFP) first get started? [24:50] How does the #forestproud platform connect with NAFP? [30:15] Everyone has an answer when it comes to what makes them proud about being in forestry. [35:25] Will explains how to develop content that works. [42:55] Will is very proud of his team and shares a little bit more about what they are up to. [45:15] How can people get involved with #forestproud? [48:15] What makes Will #forestproud?   Mentioned in This Episode: Forestproud.org Usendowment.org Will on LinkedIn

Buddy Huffaker is the Board President and Executive Director for Aldo Leopold Foundation, a non-profit conservation organization located in Wisconsin. Buddy is very proud to be part of the Aldo Leopold Foundation,  an organization he joined over 20 years ago as an intern. In today's episode, Buddy shares a little bit about how the foundation got started, what exciting new things the foundation is working on right now, and how students can get involved in its exciting projects!   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Buddy's background. [3:10] What got Buddy interested in natural resources? [6:40] How did Buddy get started with the Aldo Leopold Foundation? [9:25] Buddy shares a bit about the Aldo Leopold Foundation's history and what they do. [11:25] The Aldo Leopold Foundation is celebrating their 70 year anniversary of the A Sand County Almanac book! [14:25] What projects is the Aldo Leopold Foundation focused on right now? [19:40] Are you mentoring young professionals? Let them know about the Aldo Leopold Foundation's programs! [24:00] What leadership advice does Buddy have for young professionals? [29:30] What is Buddy's team like? [32:25] What advice does Buddy have about leadership when it comes to his team? [35:35] Part of buddy's job is to help teach his staff how to say no to things! [40:15] Partnerships are critical for any NGO, but what makes a good partnership succeed? [46:30] Buddy offers ways you can support the Aldo Leopold Foundation. [48:30] What is Buddy most proud of, so far?   Mentioned in This Episode: Aldoleopold.org Future Leaders Program Mywisconsinwoods.org Dnr.wi.gov

Elaine Snowberger kicks off this new season of Leadership Nature. In this season, Tom will be featuring up-and-coming forestry and natural resource students to share their educational experiences. Elaine shares some of the benefits of joining a forestry club, why she loves being part of the Clemson University family, and shares tips on how she scored her first forestry position!   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:55] A quick intro about Elaine's background. [3:10] What got Elaine interested in forestry? [6:55] Elaine shares what her experience at the Clemson forestry club was like. [9:45] Elaine was elected treasurer of the club, then she went on to be vice president, and then president of the club. [10:10] At the club, Elaine mainly did crosscut events. [12:00] What are some of the benefits of being in the forestry club? [16:20] Elaine loves being part of the Clemson family. [20:35] Elaine shares how she found her first job in forestry. [23:10] What advice does Elaine have for new students? [24:50] Don't be afraid to job shadow industry professionals! [26:45] Elaine has made a good impression in being seen as a leader to her peers. [29:45] What were some of the most memorable courses Elaine had in school?   Mentioned in This Episode: Clemson University Hardwoodweb.com Eforester.org

Chris Joe is an NRCS District Conservationist and a landowner in Alabama. He is a Fourth-Generation African American landowner and he raises cattle on his land. However, through tapping into the NRCS resources, he's found out how to maximize his land by providing bird and nature tours! The NRCS has a wide range of resources that not many people are aware of and on today's episode, Chris shares some of these amazing and fantastic resources today.   Key Takeaways: [1:35] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Chris's background. [4:40] How did Chris get into cattle farming? [6:35] Chris explains the definition of ‘black belt' and how it relates to the soil. [9:30] What kind of work ethic did Chris learn while working on the farm? [12:15] Chris shares a bit of his family history. [15:25] How has Chris been able to diversify his land? [21:20] NRCS has SO many resources for landowners! [24:05] Chris has people from all over the states coming to his land to watch birds. He never knew that would be possible without the help of forestry professionals. [25:55] Chris keeps a journal for his farm. It's helped him tremendously keep track of the history of the farm! [30:25] What's next for Chris and his farm? [35:55] Chris shares a bit about his educational journey on how he got into farming and conservation. [42:40] You don't want to go on to somebody's farm and tell them what they have to change. It will rub them the wrong way. You've gotta do a bit of pre-work first to build trust. [52:15] The NRCS has a lot of available resources and programs for landowners who might not be able to afford it, too. [59:15] Chris loves being able to partner with the community and teach them practical lessons on how to efficiently use the land. [1:03:25] Another resource that the NRCS teaches is about game hunting on your property; what's legal and what's not legal to do.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov High Tunnel System Initiative Connecting with Birds and Nature Tours on Twitter

John Littles is the Executive Director for Mcintosh Sustainable Environment Economic Development. He provides technical assistance to grassroots organizations and asset-based economic development, food systems, education systems, land preservation and retention, and so much more! In his role, John has generated over $8 million dollars in funding for the organization and works as an outreach provider for the United States Department of Agriculture for Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Mississippi. On the show, John shares his expertise and experience working with landowners in rural communities!   Key Takeaways: [1:35] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about John's background. [4:15] How did John get started in this field? [9:50] John relies heavily on volunteers and partnerships to help keep these community projects going. [10:35] What lessons has John learned about leading volunteers? [12:15] How did John first find out about the SFLR program and how has it helped the community so far? [14:45] By introducing diversity into the forestry industry, it has helped make an impact in the communities John and his team serve in. [15:25] John shares an example of how he helps landowners with their property. [17:30] How has John been able to build trust in the community? [19:20] The landowner always comes first! [19:45] What kind of partnerships has John been able to develop, so far? [20:40] John is in the third year of phase one for the SFLR program. What will phase two look like? [21:40] How have John and his team made the transition from serving people on a local front to a national front? [24:25] John shares a story about a young landowner he was able to help. [27:25] Trust takes time to build but once it's built, you can really move mountains with it. [31:10] Can John help people clean up their title and getting ahold of the property's farm number? [33:20] Why is this work so important to John? [34:40] What kind of advice does John have for landowners? [36:45] John shares his final thoughts about the importance of educating rural African American communities.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Danielle Atkins on Leadership Nature Forestfoundation.org

Yvonne Knight-Carter and Eleanor Cooper-Brown are both sisters and the owners of Broadaxe Branch Partners. Their property goes back almost 150 years and they are proud to be connected to the land once again. Both successful in their respective careers, Yvonne and Eleanor are taking on the task to make their land sustainable and to help educate the community about the free land management resources that are available to them. Do not be afraid to go into the USDA's office to ask for what you need!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Yvonne's and Eleanor's background. [6:00] Yvonne shares her journey and how she found her family land. [13:45] Vconne and Eleanor's family farm was visited by the Secretary of Agriculture, Tom Vilsack. [17:15] Eleanor shares her journey and how she found her family land. [24:05] Yvonne shares a bit more of the history of the land. [35:35] The sisters have such an emotional tie to the land. [37:00] When did Yvonne and Eleanor get their first forest management plan? [38:25] Did the sisters have any challenges with transferring the title into their names? [41:00] The Center of Heirs Property has free will-creation services for community members. [45:00] What advice do Yvonne and Eleanor have for other landowners? [55:50] How has their purpose in life changed since taking on this property? [1:00:00] Eleanor is very proud to call this property home and wants to pass it down for their children.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Heirsproperty.org

Lillian “Ebonie” Alexander is the Executive Director of the Black Family Land Trust, one of the United States' only conservation land trusts dedicated to the conversation, preservation, and protection of African American and other historically underserved landowner assets. Ebonie and her team host regular workshops in the community to educate and share the importance of keeping land within the family. Find out more about Ebonie's important work on this week's show!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Ebonie's background. [3:35] How did the Black Family Land Trust first get started? [5:35] What did Ebonie do before joining BFLT? [9:55] What does the BFLT do and how do they help African American landowners? [14:50] What is the definition of a land trust? [16:15] Ebonie explains who typically needs and uses their services. [19:50] What is “heirs' property”? [21:50] Why does Ebonie recommend against doing land petitions? [25:45] Many next-generation landowners don't want to own farmland due to its slavery ties. [30:40] How does Ebonie educate the community on the benefits of owning land? [33:10] Ebonie explains the important partnerships she has built over the years. [39:15] Ebonie shares a client success story! [46:45] Ebonie shares some final thoughts about the importance of keeping the land within the family.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Bflt.org Ebonie on LinkedIn Dof.virginia.gov Vdacs.virginia.gov

Evette Browning is the Outreach Coordinator for the Department of Agriculture in Arkansas. She provides educational resources for African American landowners to help them get the support they need to take over their land and turn it into an asset, not a liability. On the show, Evette shares the types of barriers landowners have historically faced and how people in the community can help people just like her to get the word out.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Evette's background. [3:40] How does Evette support the SFLR program? [6:40] What are some of the things Evette can help landowners with? [8:35] Evette shares some success stories about some people she's worked with. [11:15] What kinds of barriers have landowners faced? [17:25] In the past, African American landowners would use their word as their formal document and would not use wills or estate plans. [21;05] What advice does Evette have for landowners? [23:30] How do landowners find Evette services? [27:05] Where can people go to find SFLR resources? [28:55] How can natural resource professionals help landowners? [37:15] How can people help Evette make her job more effective? [41:10] Landowners, take advantage of this opportunity while it's still available!   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Arkforests.org Evette on LinkedIn Arwomeninag.org

Fahamisha Amkajinaki grew up in New Jersey but has returned back to her grandfather's land in North Carolina to better understand and honor the tough efforts he went through to keep it. Fahamisha has leveraged resources in her community like the SFLR program to better understand the land and use it to its full potential. Find out what legacy Fahamisha wishes to build on the family land on this week's episode.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Fahamisha's background. [3:55] How did Fahamisha get reconnected to her grandfather's land? [7:35] What was the transition first like from going to a cement jungle to an actual jungle? [11:35] Fahamisha didn't realize how divorced she was from mother nature until she came to the family farm. [13:05] Fahamisha shares a bit of the land's history. [16:15] What are Fahamisha's goals for the property? [24:35] Fahamisha wonders why schools in her rural community are not teaching children about nature-related topics like forestry and the environment that they're constantly exposed to. [28:45] How did Fahamisha first discover/get started in the SFLR program? [39:35] Fahamisha completely understands why so many African Americans landowners are cautious to work with outsiders. [44:00] How does Fahamisha educate her siblings and family members about the land? [55:30] Fahamisha is so happy she came back to the land and was able to use the free resources and wisdom from experts in her community. [57:15] What advice does Fahamisha have for other landowners? [1:00:55] Don't understand something at a workshop? Go again. There's no shame in taking it all in once, twice, three times, or more. [1:04:15] Your ancestors went through A LOT to keep that land, so honor them by understanding why and getting back in touch with it.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Owpg-inc.com Roanokeelectric.com

Ann English is a State Conservationist for the NRCS in South Carolina. She first began her career as an agronomist and soil conservationist. With over 26 years of experience as a conservationist, she is proud to work on the SFLR program and to help landowners navigate this sometimes confusing and very new industry. On the show, Ann shares the important work NRCS is doing to help guide landowners down the right path so that their land never becomes a burden to them.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Ann's background. [4:00] How did Ann first get started in agronomy? [8:10] Ann shares how she first got introduced to SFLR. [14:00] What other services does the NRCS provide to landowners? [21:55] Ann shares a story of how the NRCS was able to help a landowner who recently inherited some heirs property. [22:55] What stops a landowner from reaching out for help? [27:35] The fourth generation doesn't have the same connection to the land as we do because they didn't grow up near the land. They do not have the same fond memories as we do. [29:25] The land should never be a burden to you. [30:00] What is Ann most proud of about the SFLR program? [32:15] Ann shares her top three pieces of advice for landowners!   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Nrcs.usda.gov — Ann English

Marshall Cherry is the Chief Operating Officer at Roanoke Electric Cooperative, a utility company located in northeastern North Carolina that helped launch the SFLR program and still remains as an active partner and leader of the initiative. Marshall shares his story as well as the company's story of how they got involved in the program, the landowners they've worked with, and how he was able to build trust in the community.   Key Takeaways: [1:45] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Marshall's background. [3:50] How did Marshall first get started in his career field? [8:00] Why did the Roanoke Electric Cooperative pick and focus on the SFLR initiative? [13:00] How does Marshall work and help landowners? [19:45] Marshall has worked hard to build trust with a network of landowners. [24:35] There was a learning curve for Marshall in the beginning because he didn't quite understand all the industry jargon. [29:15] Marshall shares some of his favorite stories about the people he's worked with. [34:25] What advice does Marshall have for landowners? [37:10] What do natural resources professionals need to know to better assist and help landowners? [37:45] The world is much bigger than us, but we have a lot going on in our industry and good partners help you stand up taller.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Roanokeelectric.com Marshall on LinkedIn

Darryl Shelton is a trustee with a family farm that's owned by himself and three other forest landowners in Macon County, Alabama. He has a background as a design engineer, but he's determined to turn his father's property into a family legacy. He's a self-educated forest land manager, but his journey to get there wasn't always easy. Find out more on this week's show.   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Darryl's background. [3:10] How did Darryl first get introduced to his forest land? [4:40] Darryl explains a bit about his family history. [13:50] How did Darryl find the resources he needed to maintain his forest land? [23:15] Darryl credits Alex Harvey for helping him through the process! [29:30] What were the steps Darryl took to start putting the forest land to work? [37:15] What has been the most rewarding part about taking on these new responsibilities? [46:10] What's next for Darryl?   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Alex's website: Legacylandmanagement.org Alex on LinkedIn

Chris Brown is the Community Relations Manager for the Mid-Atlantic Region at Enviva Biomass. Enviva produces over three million metric tons of wood pellets annually and they export these pellets primarily to power plants in the UK and Europe, which were previously fueled by coal. Prior to this, Chris was the Senior Director of Communications for the North Carolina Forestry Association. Find out more about the work he and Enviva are doing with SFLR!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Chris's background. [3:50] How did Chris get involved with the SFLR program? [8:50] What has been the biggest barriers for heirs and landowners? [14:15] Enviva directly supports SFLR through sponsorship and they've been doing that for the last two years. [16:15] Chris shares a little bit of background about Enviva and where they operate. [22:45] What advice does Chris have for professional foresters and other natural resource professionals about SFLR? [27:45] If you're going to sell timber, talk to your county ranger or a forestry consultant. [33:35] Chris explains what ‘certified wood' means.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Envivabiomass.com Chris on LinkedIn

Sequoyah Browning is a scientist and humanitarian and a creative forest landowner near Camden, Arkansas. Sequoyah has degrees in both Biology and English. Sequoyah takes a proactive approach with his forest land and has made some unique choices that best suit his needs and interest, all the while generating an income. Find out more about Sequoyah and why he decided to incorporate a silvopasture design into his property.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Sequoyah's background. [3:30] Sequoyah shares a little bit of history about himself and his forest land. [8:10] What is a ‘silvopasture design'? [14:15] By incorporating cattle onto Sequoyah's land, he is able to make an income yearly, as opposed to waiting 15 years for his trees to grow and get harvested. [17:30] How does Sequoyah space out his land? [19:50] Sequoyah really leveraged the knowledge and the resources from his local foresters. [25:50] It's not about having a cookie-cutter plan. It's important to develop a custom plan that works for you and makes you feel good. [31:20] What does Sequoyah like the most about being in touch with his land? [32:55] Sequoyah shares some advice he has for fellow landowners.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov

Danielle Atkins is a Forester and Wildlife Professional who currently works for Mcintosh Seed. In her role, she works on the SFLR program for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities where she educates and directly helps landowners with their needs. Danielle also has a blog, Life + Land, where she focuses on women's outreach and land management topics. Find out more about Danielle and the important work she does on today's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Danielle's background. [4:10] How did Danielle get involved in forestry? [7:55] How did the grant at Mcintosh Seed get started? [12:15] How does Danielle find landowners to help? [15:50] Danielle shares her process and how she helps landowners. [20:45] What kinds of challenges do landowners face when it comes to taking the next step with a forester and/or consultant? [27:00] Danielle is in the process of documenting a model so that other landowners can use it as a template for their best practices. [28:00] Danielle shares a couple of stories and case studies of landowners who have benefited from her service. [34:50] Danielle stresses the importance of gender diversity in the forestry field. [40:40] What should landowners look for when they realize they need some land management help? [42:45] How can forestry professionals get involved? [46:00] What is Danielle most proud of so far?   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Mcintosh-Sustainable-Environment-Economic-Development Life + Land Danielle on LinkedIn

Charlie “Strike Force” Williams is a veteran soil scientist and recently retired from the NRCS after more than 44 years of service! Despite being retired, there's still a lot of work ahead that keeps Charlie going. On today's show, Charlie talks about the Keep It In The Family program to help African American landowners retain their land and utilize it so that it is not a burden, but an amazing blessing that generates an income. Charlie provides some excellent resources today for natural resource professionals looking to help out in this field.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Charlie's background. [4:40] How did Charlie get started in natural resources? [8:10] How does Arkansas's terrain differ from other states? [11:45] What were some of Charlie's first jobs like? [13:45] How did the Keep It In The Family program get started? [20:30] Research showed that owning land was more of a burden than a blessing for African American landowners due to having pay taxes on the land they didn't know how to use. [22:30] How do African Americans lose their land? [26:15] Charlie shares what he has learned so far about developing trust with landowners. [32:20] How do landowners find Charlie and use his services? [35:55] Charlie offers advice to other professionals in the forest and natural resources community on how they can help. [40:00] Where can landowners go for resources and to get help? [43:40] How has the situation improved for African American landowners?   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov More information on the Alabama Forestry Association: alaforestry.org

Charles Lowry is a forest landowner and heir that grew up in the city! He is currently engaging in forest management for the first time in his life as an absentee landowner. He is based in Washington, D.C. and his property is in Alabama! Charles shares his story on how he found out about this land, how he manages it from afar, and some things he wished he'd known before about the value of his land. Find someone you can trust locally in the area to help you make the right decisions.   Key Takeaways: [1:35] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:15] A quick intro about Charles's background. [4:05] Charles shares a little bit about the history of the land he inherited. [9:15] Charles was lucky because his grandfather did have a will before he died. [13:15] With the property being in Alabama and Charles being in Washington, D.C., How did Charles get re-connected with his land? [24:30] With the wide geographical location of the heirs, every single one of them has a varying interest in the land. [25:45] What are some of the challenges of being an absentee landowner? [27:50] Prior podcast guest Alex Harvey has helped Charles with his land. What kind of things did he help Charles with? [31:30] What kinds of goals does Charles have for the property? [41:45] You really need someone on your side to help you through this process, whether it be through the NRCS, the government, or a consultant. [45:45] Charles is excited to know more people in this industry to get a better idea of what his land can do.   Mentioned in This Episode: Charles on LinkedIn Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS services: Nrcs.usda.gov More information on the Alabama Forestry Association: alaforestry.org

Alex Harvey is a consulting Forester and a Registered Professional Forester in Mississippi and Alabama. Alex has helped with the development and pilot of the Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) and will be diving into some of the work he has done to help educate landowners about the value of their land. On today's episode, Alex lists some challenges he has had in his line of work and some of the reasons why a landowner would benefit from working with a consulting forester. There's a lot of bad apples that spoil it for the rest of us and it takes time to build up the trust that you're one of the good guys.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Alex's background. [4:30] How did Alex come up with the name ‘Legacy Land Management' for his company? [7:40] Alex gives a quick recap on what is Heirs property. [12:55] How did Alex first get into this line of work? [21:50] What are some of the reasons why a landowner would want to work with Alex? [24:55] Alex shares a horror story about what happened to an elderly lady's land and timber. [32:15] It took Alex about three years to help landowners make small steps towards the proper use of their land. [34:45] What resources can landowners tap into to get the help that they need? [38:25] What kinds of challenges does Alex run into and why does he love his job?   Mentioned in This Episode: Alex's website: Legacylandmanagement.org Alex's first interview on the show: June 2018 Alex on LinkedIn Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS services: Nrcs.usda.gov

Alex Singleton is a Fiber Specialist at International Paper in Port Wentworth, Georgia and he played an instrumental part in Founding the Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) in Charleston, South Carolina. Previously, he founded a conservation curriculum for underserved youth. This career camp helped shape the minds of our students and gave them a sturdy introduction into the forestry and natural resources field! Find out more about Alex and his incredible work on today's episode. Landowners have trust issues when it comes to working with others, and they have every reason to be skeptical.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Alex's background. [4:10] How did Alex first get started in forestry? [8:40] Ms. Balkman was a scary Spanish teacher, but Alex credits her for making the connections necessary to get him introduced to forestry. [13:40] Alex shares what his experience at Mead Westvaco Paper was like. [18:00] Alex started a career camp for minority students in Charleston. The camp was active from 1993 to 2006 and a lot of students were exposed to the natural resource industry during that time! [23:30] How did Alex get introduced to the SFLR program? [26:45] If you're not familiar with how the timber markets work, landowners can get poached by buyers and really lose out on the worth of their timber. [33:45] As Alex was trying to put a program in place for rural African American landowners, the U.S. Endowment gave him a call and was offering a $500,000 grant. [39:35] Once they started the program, the Center for Heirs' Property Preservation had phones ringing off the hook from curious landowners. [46:10] Landowners definitely have trust issues when it comes to working with others, and they have every reason to be skeptical. [51:35] What advice does Alex have for landowners? [55:20] What advice does Alex have for fellow resource professionals?   Mentioned in This Episode: Internationalpaper.com Alex on LinkedIn Heirsproperty.org Usendowment.org Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) Nrcs.usda.gov

Dr. Jennie Stephens is the Executive Director for the Center for Heirs' Property Preservation. At the center, she's responsible for overall strategic planning, revenue generation, financial & staff management, and program operations. Dr. Stephens has dedicated more than 25 years in the non-profit industry and is very passionate about building relationships with people who have experienced a history of abuse when it comes to their land and their rights. Find out more about the important work she does on this week's episode! Landowners are skeptical (and rightfully so) to work with organizations. It takes time to build a good reputation.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Dr. Stephens's background. [4:20] How did the Center For Heirs Property Preservation first get started? [7:45] How has the Center evolved since its creation in 2005? [12:00] The Center was one of the first three to be funded. We are now up to eight new legal centers throughout the U.S. [14:10] How does Dr. Stephens help her clients? [15:50] What kind of barriers do clients typically face that prevents them from moving forward? [17:55] A lot of times, you're asking heirs to make a business decision when they don't even know who the other shareholders are. [19:35] Dr. Stephens shares a couple of examples of how they were able to get over hurdles and build a good reputation for their center. [21:50] Dr. Stephens and her team have resolved over 216 cases since the creation of the Center. [23:25] When land gets lost, it doesn't just impact the family, it impacts the community fundamentally. [24:40] Dr. Stephens shares both a legal and a forestry case that was resolved at the Center. [29:35] What kinds of partners have supported and helped the Center? [34:30] What advice does Dr. Stephens have to include more diversity within the forestry community? [37:20] Dr. Stephens shares some final words of wisdom about land retention.   Mentioned in This Episode: Heirsproperty.org Dr. Stephens on LinkedIn Stateforesters.org NRCS.USDA.gov

Tyrone and Edna Williams are forest landowners at Fourtee Acres, which is located in Enfield, North Carolina. The family farm includes 195 acres total of woodland, farmland, and rental property. Tyrone and Edna own about 62 of those acres. The family farm has been in Tyrone's family for close to 100 years and they host monthly conference calls with the heirs to keep everyone up to date. Not originally from a forestry background, Tyrone credits foresters and community members in their ability to help him fully understand the scope and worth of his land.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Tyrone and Edna's background. [5:10] Tyrone shares a little bit about his family's history and how they've managed to keep their land for over 100 years in the family. [7:10] Up until five to six years ago, Tyrone was not able to say this. What happened back then? [10:15] Tyrone shares the type of help and support he has received to help him keep his land. [17:00] What kinds of barriers have Tyrone and Edna faced along the way? [18:55] What role have partnerships and networking played in managing Tyrone's land? [25:15] How have Tyrone's sons gotten involved in the family land? [30:20] Tyrone has conference calls with heirs from out of state to help them get familiar with the process. [32:15] Tyrone has a large family! During Thanksgiving and family reunions, they have about 20 to 40 family members that attend. [35:00] What kinds of surprises has the Williams family had along the way? [42:15] Tyrone explains what discretionary grants are and what that can mean for landowners. [44:55] What advice does Tyrone have for other landowners? [48:35] What advice does Tyrone have for foresters and other educators? [50:40] Final thoughts: The goal isn't to live forever, but to create something that will.   Mentioned in This Episode: Fourtee Acres Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) FS.fed.us

Thomas Mitchell is a Professor of Law and Co-Director of the Real Estate and Community Development Law Program at Texas A&M University. An amazing thing has happened in modern history and that's the Uniform Partition of Heirs Property Act. Thomas has been working for over 15 years to get a real estate partitions law updated with regards to heirs property. For decades, rightful landowners have lost their land due to unfair practices, but that has all changed now. Find out more on today's episode.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Thomas's background. [3:40] How did Thomas first get started in land retention and land rights? [8:55] What was the process Thomas went through to change the direction of what law he wanted to practice in? [11:55] When Thomas described to his colleague what he wanted to do, his colleague said it was career suicide. [13:25] Thomas is so glad he didn't listen to him because he knows he made the right decision. [16:00] What kinds of issues do people face with heirs' properties? [24:25] When people have inherited property over the generations, a lot of times the property lacks clear ownership titles and that ends up creating a murky lens for the courts on who owns what. [28:00] Real estate developers will often contact a distant relative that owns possibly 1% of the land and try to convince them to do a partition by sale agreement, and by doing this, heirs can lose their entire share. [30:40] On top of this, the courts are using the wrong analysis to determine the worth of the land. [38:10] What has the Uniform Partition of Heirs Property Act has accomplished? [43:55] When Thomas received word his proposal was being selected, he almost fell out of his chair! [47:25] What parts of the partition law will be changed due to this act? [55:20] Many Americans do not make wills for their family. For African American families specifically, only 15% of them have a will. [1:03:40] What results has Thomas seen so far? [1:10:50] Thomas did not do this alone! He credits the network of people who have helped make this possible.   Mentioned in This Episode: Law.tamu.edu Thomas on LinkedIn

Candra Burns is the voice for introverted scientists everywhere and the owner of Talking Forests. She is a natural resource professional and unique resource for anyone in the field who wants to build their social media chops. On today's episode, Candra talks about the importance of social media, the benefits of each social media platform, and how to find the time for it all!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Candra's background. [3:40] How did Candra first get started in natural resources? [10:20] During every school lesson, Candra would learn about a new subject but it was just the tip of the iceberg. [14:35] What were Candra's first few jobs like? [20:00] Candra explains what her business, Talking Forests, is all about. [23:40] What do foresters and natural resource professionals think about social media? [25:40] How do young people use social media? [27:45] How are foresters missing opportunities by not engaging with their audience online? [30:45] What results has Candra seen so far? [33:50] What are some of the pros and cons of each social media platform? [41:00] If you don't know how to use Facebook or Instagram, that's okay, but if you're not using LinkedIn, you're really missing out. [47:00] Candra explains the power of hashtags. [50:30] How much time does all this social media stuff take?!   Mentioned in This Episode: Talkingforests.com Candra on LinkedIn Email: Candra@Talkingforests.com Eforester.org

John Magruder is the Owner of Three Rivers Forestry and has been a consulting forester for 21 years. John earned his B.S. in Forest Science from Penn State University in 1986. Before going into private practice, John served at the Virginia Department of Forestry as the Area Forester in Essex County, for nearly 12 years. On today's episode, John shares why it's so important to be an involved member of the community and help educate your local representative about the importance of the work you do.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about John's background. [3:40] How did John get started in forestry? [5:50] John wanted to be a chemical engineer at first, but after shadowing someone in the field, he decided he'd rather be a forester, instead. [8:55] What was John's first job in forestry like? [12:10] When John was a junior in college, he and his team had to fight a forest fire for ten days. [14:45] John highly recommends you join the forestry club at your school. [16:15] Why did John switch from the Department of Forestry to his own consultancy firm? [22:50] John is an active participant in political matters and has gotten involved in legislative issues related to forestry. The public needs to be educated in the importance of the work we do. [28:25] What kinds of mentors has John had over the years? [33:40] What types of challenges do new forestry consultants tend to face? [41:40] John shares his thoughts about ACF and some of its benefits. [48:15] Good leadership means you know you're going to make mistakes, but you also know you're going to be learning from them. [48:45] What skills do people in the forestry profession need to be better at? [53:50] What kinds of challenges has John personally run into as a forestry consultant? [56:40] What leadership lessons has John learned over the years?[1:00:40] If you're a young forester, get involved! As older foresters retire, that knowledge will disappear. [1:03:05] The toughest of challenges can be solved. You've just got to work with it.   Mentioned in This Episode: Trfva.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Vaforestry.org Remember the Titans (2000)

Amy McFadden is the Owner of White Oak Forest Management, Inc., which is based in Georgetown, South Carolina. Amy started her forest career with International Paper Company in 1994. Amy also taught at Horry-Georgetown Technical College in the Forest Technician Program and was the department head for four years! On today's show, Amy highlights the importance of getting to know each person on an individual level, the surprising aspects of forestry consulting, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Amy's background. [3:25] How did Amy get started in forestry? [6:20] What was Amy's forestry school experience like? [9:00] What was Amy's first job at International Paper like? [13:40] Amy shares a little bit about her job history and what she did after IP. [20:10] What made Amy decide to take a full-time leap into forestry consulting? [22:55] What does Amy's business look like today? [25:55] Amy shares what she wishes she had learned sooner as a forestry consultant. [28:25] Amy is incredibly proud of her team. [30:25] What is the most surprising part about being a forestry consultant? [31:45] Amy shares some of the challenges forestry consultants will face. [33:45] What type of leadership lessons has Amy learned about over the years? [35:25] It's important to have goals for yourself and for your team to help everybody move in the right direction. [36:40] Amy shares why she joined ACF. [39:50] What advice does Amy have for aspiring business owners? [46:40] “Don't let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird behind.”   Mentioned in This Episode: Whiteoakforestrysc.com Amy on LinkedIn ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Leading with Honor, by Lee Ellis

Jerry Tugwell is a Forestry Consultant and the President of Tugwell Consulting Forestry in Asheboro, North Carolina. Jerry has over 38 years of forestry experience and is an active member of the ACF community. At ACF, Jerry has served in many roles including Southern Director Chairman of the Ethics Committee, Vice President, and President of the national branch. On today's episode, Jerry shares what skills he wishes every aspiring forestry consultant knew, timeless leadership lessons, and important resources that'll help foresters with their continued education.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Jerry's background. [3:15] How did Jerry get started in forestry? [4:20] What was Jerry's first job like? [7:25] Jerry describes the wide variety of work you can do as a forestry consultant. [10:00] What does it take to be a forestry consultant? [13:30] What are some of the best ways consulting foresters can continue their education? [16:20] Why is public speaking so important for a forestry consultant? [17:45] Jerry shares why being a consulting forester is so rewarding. [19:05] What types of challenges will forestry consultants most often face? [23:15] What kinds of mentors has Jerry had over the years? [27:40] Jerry shares what his first leadership position was like. [36:35] Where are forestry and natural resources headed as professions? [38:15] You have to be open to change as you advance in your career.   Mentioned in This Episode: Tugwellforestry.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Leadership Lessons of Robert E. Lee: Tips, Tactics, and Strategies for Leaders and Managers, by Bil Holton

Richard “Carbo” Carbonetti is the Owner and Senior Vice President at Land Vest, a brokerage, consulting, and timberland services firm. The firm oversees and manages 1.7 million acres in the Northeast U.S. Carbo is a licensed forester in Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont. On today's episode, Carbo discusses the benefits of working in consulting forestry, how the industry can improve as a whole, and why foresters need to get better at communicating their value to the community.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Carbo's background. [4:20] How did Carbo get into forestry? [9:40] What does Carbo love about being a forester? [12:45] Carbo didn't know anything about running a business when he started. [17:10] Carbo used to drive his classmates crazy because he asked ‘too many' questions. [20:15] You gotta embrace change in your life. Carbo knows so many people who are paralyzed with fear because of change. [25:30] What advice does Carbo have for aspiring forestry consultants? [28:20] It's important to remember that people think differently than you do. [39:45] Carbo shares an example of ‘bad actors' in the industry. [43:40] Carbo has been an ACF member for the last 40 years. What are some of the benefits of joining? [49:40] What kinds of mentors has Carbo had over the years? [54:30] Forestry programs have changed greatly since Carbo was last in school and compensation rates have not kept up either. [1:04:50] A lot of foresters actually undercharge for their services. [1:11:15] What's one thing about leadership that Carbo wished he'd learned sooner?   Mentioned in This Episode: Landvest.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org

Mike Warner is the Owner of ArborTerra Consulting, which is located in Lizton, Indiana. With over 40 years of experiences and always being an entrepreneur at heart, Mike lists some of the benefits and challenges of owning your own business. Mike details the importance of writing your dreams and goals on paper early on in your career so you always have an idea of what to aspire to! Find out more about Mike and his expertise on this week's show!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Mike's background. [4:20] How did Mike get into forestry? [7:40] What was Mike's first job like? [8:40] Mike was inspired by his first boss, Fred Woods, and he helped Mike along the way with his sage advice. [11:00] Mike remembers another mentor, Jim Akers, who helped him set firm career goals early on. [13:45] What kind of transition did Mike go through to successfully start two businesses (at the same time). [16:15] What kind of skills do people need in order to be considered a good forestry consultant? [20:10] Mike knew the Latin names of trees but he didn't know how to run a business until he got his feet wet. [20:25] What does Mike wish he'd learned sooner about managing people? [23:50] What is Mike most proud of, so far? [25:20] How does Mike find his talent? [27:15] What makes ArborTerra different compared to other consulting companies? [29:30] What kinds of surprises has Mike discovered along the way? [31:05] Where is the future of forestry headed for the younger generation? [33:15] How has being a member of ACF helped Mike's career? [40:30] Don't be afraid to try some new directions, especially if the current one isn't working!   Mentioned in This Episode: ArborTerra.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership: Follow Them and People Will Follow You,by John C. Maxwell and Steven R. Covey

Phil Sneed is the owner of Blackwell Creek Forestry as well as a Senior Forester. He has over 20 years of experience in managing forests and wildlife habitat and has worked with hundreds of landowners and organizations over the years. In addition, Phil has spent the last 15 years on wildland firefighting assignments in the Western U.S., serving as a Crew Boss and Public Information Officer.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Phil's background. [3:45] How did Phil get into forestry? [8:50] What was Phil's first job like after coming back from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait? [17:00] It took some time for Phil to really find his place in forestry. [22:10] What skills do you need to have to get into wildland fire management? [27:15] Phil is really grateful he keeps up-to-date on his wildland firefighting education. [29:00] What has contributed to Phil's early success? [33:35] What kinds of mentors has Phil had over the years? [37:00] Phil shares some of the challenges a forestry consultant faces. [41:00] What was Phil's first leadership position like? [48:15] Where is the future of forestry headed for the younger generation?   Mentioned in This Episode: Blackwellcreekforestry.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Glory (1989) Deep Survival, by Laurence Gonzales

Matt Dowdy started his own company, Dowdy's Forest & Land Management, in 2007 and it's a full-service forest consulting firm in the state of Virginia. With slightly over 26 years of forestry consulting experience, Matt has a lot of wisdom to share on today's podcast! Find out what's it like being your own boss, lessons Matt wished he'd learned sooner, and where the future of forestry is headed!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Matt's background. [3:10] How did Matt get into forestry? [4:45] What was Matt's first job like? [7:10] Matt shares what he likes about being a forestry consultant. [8:35] What kinds of lessons has Matt learned along the way, that surprised him? [9:25] As a forestry consultant, you're pretty much a middleman, working on behalf of your client. [10:55] How does Matt work with clients who don't know what they want? [12:25] What kinds of challenges has Matt faced so far? [13:25] Matt shares some of his first leadership experiences and the lessons he learned. [16:00] Even though Matt is the owner of his own business, his clients are really his boss. [19:40] What kinds of mentors has Matt had, over the years? [21:20] What makes a good forestry consultant? [22:45] Matt shares some of his wisdom for those aspiring forestry consultants out there! [23:05] Where is the future of forestry headed for the younger generation? [29:25] What has Matt's experience at ACF been like? [34:35] Once you realize you're wasting your time, move on!   Mentioned in This Episode: Dowdysforest.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Gladiator (2000)

David Henderson is the owner of Henderson Forestry Consultants and has been serving landowners in the North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia area for over 30 years. David says it took him a good eight years to get the hang of owning his own business and another 20 years to get a good hang on consulting! David is a wise soul with lots of wisdom about consulting, owning a business, and what he wishes he'd learned sooner!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about David's background. [3:05] How did David get into forestry? [5:40] What was David's first job like? [9:25] How did David become a forestry consultant? [11:30] It took David eight years to get his business off the ground and another 20 years before he felt like he was a consultant. [13:10] What does David wish he learned sooner? [17:10] What does David's team look like today? [19:45] Working with new technology is a struggle for older foresters, which is why it's important to bring in new and young talent into the mix. [23:40] What is David most proud of so far? [27:05] What does David wish he'd learned sooner in his career? [29:00] David offers some words of wisdom for young foresters looking to excel in their career. [30:40] David dives into ACF and how they've helped him in his career. [33:30] Where does David think the forestry industry is headed? [38:25] What kinds of mentors has David had over the years?   Mentioned in This Episode: HFCforestry.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org American Canopy: Trees, Forests, and the Making of a Nation, by Eric Rutkow

Justin Miller is the Founder and President of Green Timber Consulting Foresters. Established in 2001, Green Timber currently staffs 8 foresters and serves clients throughout the upper great lakes region in Michigan. In 2017, Justin was recognized at the School of Forest Resource Environmental Sciences as Outstanding Aluminist for his contributions in the forestry industry and students at MTU. On today's show, Justin explains how you don't need to have a ‘traditional' path to get into forestry and offers key advice for aspiring forestry consulting students.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Justin's background. [4:25] How did Justin get into forestry and natural resources? [6:10] What types of jobs did Justin when he first got out of college? [7:50] How do people typically get into forestry consulting? [9:00] You can get started in consulting through other ways. You don't have to join a big firm in order to be a consulting forester. [10:25] What types of clients does Justin have at Green Timber? [11:30] What kind of problems does the average client have when they first come to Green Timber? [13:55] Justin shares a little bit about the differences in environment and silvicultural characteristics of his area. [16:00] What's fun about being a forester and a forestry consultant? [19:40] Justin explains the ACF vetting process and what you need to do to join. [21:55] Justin has learned so much material through ACF that wasn't available at his university. [24:35] What did Justin wished he learned sooner about the industry? [26:55] What do people ought to know about becoming a supervisor? [32:15] What makes a good leader? [33:05] What advice does Justin have for aspiring forest professionals? [36:55] Justin talks about some of the exciting projects he's worked on in the past. [41:00] What kind of mentors has Justin had over the years?   Mentioned in This Episode: Greentimberforestry.com Justin on LinkedIn ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Miracle (2004)

Tom Hittle is a Forester with 30 years of experience as a Forestry Consultant and is the Senior Vice President of Project Coordination at  Steigerwaldt Land Services. Tom's experiences include due diligence for timberland acquisitions, resource analysis, and forest management planning, and systems development and implementation! With Tom's background, you don't want to miss what he has to say when it comes to his line of work and what he looks for in young talent!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Tom's background. [3:50] How did Tom get into forestry and natural resources? [6:00] What kind of work has Tom done over the years? [8:10] What's the most interesting part about being a consulting forester? [9:20] Tom shares the types of technology he works with in his field. [10:55] Tom has a lot of fun on the job! He shares some of the things he's enjoyed the most about his job so far. [12:55] Tom shares a little bit about the history of Steigerwaldt Land Services. [15:15] What advice does Tom have for those who want to become a forestry consultant? [20:25] What types of challenges do forestry consultants face? [24:15] Tom shares how he uses his introversion to his advantages while on the job! [26:00] What was it like when Tom first started supervising people? [27:15] What is one leadership lesson Tom wished he learned sooner? [28:55] Tom shares the types of mentors he has had throughout his career. [32:25] Tom has been working hard to develop relationships with students early on in their career, even if they don't have a position currently open at the moment. [35:35] Tom recommends watching the Apollo 13 movie!   Mentioned in This Episode: Steigerwaldt.com Tom on LinkedIn ACF-foresters.org Apollo 13

Steve Templin is President of Templin Forestry Inc., a Certified Forester as well as an SAF Fellow. Steve has a diverse background and has been a Consulting Forester for the last 39 years and also a real estate broker for 32 of those years. On today's show, Steve shares how he discovered Forestry Consulting, provides advice for aspiring professionals, and how joining the Association of Consulting Foresters has helped Steve's career.   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Steve's background. [4:10] How did Steve get into forestry and natural resources? [10:00] Steven always knew he wanted to be a consulting forester, even when he was in school. [14:20] Steve feels so blessed that he was able to get into consulting forestry early on in his career. [18:00] Steve credits his wife for helping him enjoy his life more without worrying about the money. She helped him change his mindset and perspective. [19:25] How has ACF helped Steve throughout his career? [23:30] How does Steve teach/inspire his employees to do better? [26:20] What advice does Steve have for aspiring foresters? [30:25] What is Steve working on these days?   Mentioned in This Episode: Templinforestry.com Steve on LinkedIn ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org

T.R. Clark is a Forestry Consultant based in Alabama. T.R. currently serves as Regional Manager for F&W Forestry Services, where he provides consulting forestry services and timberland management services for non-industrial private landowners. On today's show, T.R. shares how aspiring foresters can get into consulting work, why it's critical to be a good listener in this field, and how the Association of Consulting Foresters can help your career.   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about TR's background. [3:35] What does a typical day look like for a forestry consultant? [5:35] How did T.R. get into forestry and natural resources? [7:15] What kind of work did T.R. do while he was in college? [9:45] What prepared T.R. the most with land ownership management? [11:55] What does it really mean to listen to the client? [13:30] T.R. shares the types of mentors he's had over the years. [15:15] You have to be willing to teach, not just tell. [16:05] What have been some of the most memorable moments of T.R.'s job so far? [18:50] T.R. explains what makes being a forestry consultant so rewarding. [21:35] What advice does T.R. have for aspiring forestry consultants? [23:40] When did T.R. first oversee a project as a leader? [25:45] What makes F&W Forestry unique as a consulting firm? [27:55] Why did T.R. join Association of Consulting Foresters? [29:35] T.R. shares his thoughts on the future of forestry. [31:15] We simply don't communicate to the public enough about all the good work foresters do for the environment.   Mentioned in This Episode: Fwforestry.net T.R. on LinkedIn Acf-foresters.org Tombstone (1993) Braveheart (1995)

Mike Delegan is a Consulting Forester with a ton of incredible experience in both public and private land management. As a consultant for Mason Bruce & Girard Inc., Mike provides turnkey forest land management services for timberland investors, private family owners, and land management agencies. On today's show, Mike shares how he got into consulting, offers advice for young aspiring professionals looking to get into this field, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Mike's background. [3:15] What's a typical day look like for a forestry consultant? [7:50] How did Mike get into forestry and natural resources? [14:50] Why did Mike get a Bachelors in Urban Forestry? [17:25] What was Mike's first job out of college? [26:20] Mike shares what were some of his best jobs that prepared him to become a forestry consultant. [28:20] How did Mike get his position at Mason Bruce & Girard Inc.? [31:25] Mike offers advice on how someone can become a forestry consultant. [36:25] Mike's job description is so broad that there are many different ways he can take in his career. [42:20] What do foresters need to get better at? [46:40] When you work in forestry or forestry consulting, you become very adaptable and there are a lot of different companies looking for your skill sets.   Mentioned in This Episode: Masonbruce.com Acf-foresters.org In the Kingdom of Ice: The Grand and Terrible Polar Voyage of the USS Jeannette, by Hampton Sides

Matt Sampson is the Senior Director of ForestLand Operations for the North East Region of the Forest Land Group, which is headquartered in North Carolina. Matt oversees on-the-ground management activities for the approximately 597,000 acres owned by the Prior Affiliated Funds in the region. On today's show, Matt shares the steps he took that excelled his career, the mentors he looks up to, and advice for young professionals looking to get into the field!   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Matt's background. [3:40] How did Matt get into forestry and natural resources? [6:15] What was it like working in Idaho? [10:55] Matt dives into what types of jobs he did after he graduated university. [14:35] What does Matt do now? [15:45] What kinds of skills does someone need in order to take on a Senior Director Forestland Operations position? [18:05] Matt shares tips on how to better communicate with other people. [21:25] What does Matt wish he'd learned sooner about his job? [26:15] You never really realize the full impact you've had on somebody as a leader. [27:30] What kinds of challenges has Matt undergone that have really shaped him as a leader and professional? [31:55] Military personnel and foresters share the same types of leadership training and they both have to learn how to handle different group dynamics. [35:30] Matt doesn't really see himself as a leader; more like a people coordinator. [37:15] What advice does Matt have for young professionals? [41:45] How important is networking? [45:00] Matt leaves us with some final thoughts about forestry. We speak for the trees!   Mentioned in This Episode: Tfgoperations.com Who Moved My Cheese: An A-Mazing Way to Deal with Change in Your Work and in Your Life, by Spencer Johnson Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption, by Laura Hillenbrand Band of Brothers: E Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne from Normandy to Hitler's Eagle's Nest, by Stephen E. Ambrose The Biggest Brother: The Life of Major Dick Winters, the Man Who Led the Band of Brothers, by Larry Alexander

Alex Singleton is a Fiber Specialist at International Papers in Georgia. He is responsible for the overall management of wood purchases and deliveries into the mill and wet storage yard. Prior to this, Alex was a Procurement Forester for Weyerhaeuser and a Harvest Manager for Mead Westvaco Paper. On today's episode, Alex discusses how he got introduced to forestry and how he helped create a meaningful forestry program to introduce young African American children into the field of Natural Resources.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro to Alex's background. [3:25] How did Alex get into forestry and natural resources? [8:50] Alex had forestry all around him and he didn't even know it! [11:55] What was it like going to college for forestry? [18:20] Alex never felt out of place while he was attending university. [19:55] What was Alex's first job outside of school like? [27:20] Alex became a district forester when he was in his young 20s and he held that position for 10 years. [33:25] Never stop networking! It will set you up for success no matter what field you're in. [37:50] What does Alex do for his current role at International Paper? [42:25] Alex is so proud that he is able to share what he knows with other African Americans. [47:05] In the beginning, it was a struggle trying to recruit young kids into the industry. [53:05] Alex has had a parent come up to thank him for saving their child's life! [59:40] You can become paralyzed by the big choices that are facing you, but you gotta square up to things and just move forward.   Mentioned in This Episode: Internationalpaper.com Alex on LinkedIn After Earth, starring Will Smith “Invictus,” by William Ernest Henley

Julius Tillery is a 5th generation farmer who helps other farmers in rural communities succeed in their businesses. Julius is a big advocate and supporter of local farmers as well as runs his own business, Black Cotton. Julius graduated in 2004 at the North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics and he earned his B.A in Economics. Find out more about Julius and the work he does on today's episode!     Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro to Julius's background. [4:00] How did Julius get into forestry and natural resources? [6:20] Julius decided to go back to school to further his college education, but after a brief stint, he felt it was better to drop out and get ‘on the ground' experience instead. [9:15] Are there a lot of millenials interested in agricultural work? [14:55] When Julius got his first job, he was 23-years-old, but he was very knowledgeable in his field because he's been working on the farm since he was 16. [16:25] What kind of farming did Julius grow up doing? [19:35] What kind of partnerships has Julius developed over the years? [21:20] Julius remembers a time where ‘conservation' and ‘environmentalism' were bad words for a business. [23:50] What is Julius most proud of in his career? [25:45] Why are some minorities hesitant to join natural resources? [31:25] What is Julius's business, Black Cotton, all about? [36:15] Despite Julius's county being the number 2 cotton producer in his state, his county is still one of the poorest in the country. How is this possible when you have such a big asset? [37:00] Cotton farmers get pennies on the dollar from cotton, but through local efforts, that can be changed. [41:00] Look at what's going on the world and then ask yourself where you see yourself in it that will make an impact, that will make a change for the better. [45:25] What do young professionals need to know about this field? [51:05] How important has social media been for Julius and Black Cotton?   Mentioned in This Episode: Blackcotton.us Julius on LinkedIn Julius on Twitter

Nicholas Jamahl Butler has experienced nearly the entire range of natural resource management in his seven-year career. Jamahl is the District Ranger of the Las Angeles Gateway Ranger District and has a focus on ecological restoration and conservation. On today's show, Jamahl dives into the importance of having those tough conversations with those who don't always see eye-to-eye with you, being proud of your unique talent, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro to Jamahl's background. [3:50] How did Jamahl get into forestry and natural resources? [11:40] The foresters that Jamahl knew at the time were very excited to take a high school student under their wing. [18:50] Jamahl entered into a forestry program early in his education, which helped him get on the ground experience as well as a bit of income. [28:30] Jamahl was offered a full-time position before his internship was over. [30:35] What kind of projects did Jamahl work on when he got his first job? [38:00] Through Jamahl's extensive and diverse experience, he's able to have a deeper understanding of his work and bring a unique perspective to the table. [41:00] Everyone in your life teaches you what to think but it's not always accurate. [47:15] Jamahl explains the process of how he got his college degree. [51:40] What was it like to work as a state forester? [58:40] What was it like living in Utah as a person of color? [1:01:20] Jamahl shares a story of a co-worker who once explained to him, ‘what it was like to be black.' [1:10:00] Jamahl explains his experience when he first arrived in Houston, Texas. [1:18:30] Jamahl met a woman who was so passionate about forestry, but had no clue that you could go to school for it and specialize in different type of forestry! [1:23:20] Jamahl shares his thoughts on race relation, cultural differences, and diversity. [1:32:45] How often do you have to worry about someone sexually assaulting you? [1:38:00] What does Jamahl do as District Ranger? [1:40:45] How does leadership differ now that Jamahl is in this position? [1:44:25] Most people think of themselves as hardworking and well-meaning, but they might not have the same definition of those things as you do. [1:47:30] What kinds of challenges has Jamahl experienced in forestry as a person of color? [1:50:30] What career advice does Jamahl have for young people? [2:03:45] We all have unique qualities and it's important to share your art with others.   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.fed.us Jamahl on LinkedIn Pathways Program Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman

Dr. Stephanie Freeman is the GIS Coordinator for the U.S. Forest Service. Stephanie has a Ph.D. in Plant and Soil Science from Alabama A&M. However, despite her extensive education, Stephanie admits she did very poorly in school but she was still able to prevail and get into her career field of choice by excelling greatly in internships and listening to key mentors to help guide her along the way. High grades do help, but it's not the only way to get into your field of choice!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro to Stephanie's background. [3:30] How did Stephanie get into forestry and natural resources? [7:25] Stephanie describes what her internship experience at Walt Disney World was like. [10:30] Stephanie shares an experience of when someone did not take her seriously about her passions and pursuits. [12:35] Stephanie was a C student in school, but she still prevailed through excelling in internships. [14:30] Stephanie was fortunate enough to work at two NASA stations. [16:55] Keep a strong integrity and character no matter what. [17:25] What's next for Stephanie? [18:10] Stephanie recommends some of her favorite books. [24:30] Leaders are made over time and through experiences!   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.fed.us Stephanie on LinkedIn Octavia E. Butler Trace: Memory, History, Race, and the American Landscape, by Lauret E. Savoy Favor, the Road to Success: How to Receive Special Favor with God and People, by Bob Buess The Great Debaters

Kimpton Cooper is an accomplished forester and forestry leader. Kimpton currently serves as the District Ranger on the Angelina Sabine Ranger District in East Texas. Kimpton earned his Masters of Environmental Management at Yale University. When it comes to diversity, Kimpton emphasizes the importance of looking to the future to make proactive changes that will make an impact on future generations to come. Find out more about Kimpton's insightful thoughts on today's show!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro to Kimpton's background. [4:05] How did Kimpton get into forestry and natural resources? [9:45] What does Kimpton mean by having a social license? [11:40] Kimpton shares the types of jobs he's done throughout his career. [19:00] You vote for what's important in your professional and personal life by where you allocate your time. [19:35] What was Kimpton's first leadership position like? [26:15] What did Kimpton wish he had learned sooner about leadership? [30:05] Most people aren't listening; they're reloading! [30:35] What is Kimpton most proud of in his career? [35:35] Kimpton is amazed that he gets paid to do this! [37:25] Kimpton shares his experiences of being a minority in a predominantly white male field. [47:00] What advice does Kimpton have for young folks out there? [50:25] It's okay to try and not succeed. If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough. [56:50] Kimpton offers a suggestion on how to better include diversity into the industry. [1:08:10] The hard challenges you face today will make you a much better person and leader in the future.   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.usda.gov Kimpton on LinkedIn Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, by Doris Kearns Goodwin

Dr. Thomas Easley also known as the ‘Hip Hop Forester' is an educator, musician, and entrepreneur. Thomas serves as the Assistant Dean of Community Inclusion at the Yale school of Forestry and Environmental Studies. Prior to this, Thomas was the Director of Community Diversity at NC State University, where he also earned his doctorate. On today's show, Thomas discusses how he inspires his students to achieve, how he got into forestry, and brings up ways we as a profession can get better at inclusion and diversity.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro to Thomas's background. [3:25] How did Thomas get into forestry and natural resources? [11:30] It took someone who shared the same identity (race, gender, religion) as Thomas to show him how to treat people outside of his ethnic/social group. [15:15] Thomas shares his journey on how he ended up getting his Masters degree in Forest Genetics. [21:55] Thomas credits his teaching ability to his mom, who was also a teacher. [25:20] What did Thomas teach prior to teaching at Yale? [33:00] What is Thomas teaching currently? [38:05] If you try to make changes too quickly or too aggressively, you're going to be driving people away instead of getting supporters. [41:05] Thomas believes Yale wants him to help them get to a more diverse place. [46:45] What advice does Thomas have for young professionals? [50:20] You gotta look inward sometimes to see where you can improve and be better. It's important to take initiative and not rely solely on others to lift you up. [51:30] What does the profession need to do better to increase more diversity in the profession? [53:30] You can not change and grow while still staying the same. As an industry, we need to be open to growing.   Mentioned in This Episode: Rashadeas.com Thomas on LinkedIn   Tweetables: “If you can't teach children, then you can't teach. I watched my mom teach young kids who were brilliant but had a lot of family problems.”   “We all have voices and we're using our voices.”   “When you really invest in diversity, equality, and inclusion, you're going to be speaking multiple languages at one time.”  

Sam Cook joins us once again on the Leadership Nature podcast! Sam is the Executive Director of Forest Assets at North Carolina State University's College of Natural Resources. Sam has been involved in a wide variety of aspects in natural forestry — everything from government service and research to wildlife firefighting and teaching. On today's show, Sam discusses the types of programs a student interested in forestry can enroll in, ways to introduce more diversity into the field, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro to Sam's background. [5:25] How did Sam get into forestry and natural resources? [9:50] What was the transition from Tuskegee University to North Carolina State University like? [13:25] What's the Outward Bound program all about? [22:10] How does Sam begin to educate families on the importance of forestry and natural resources? [26:25] Has Sam ever experienced professional barriers due to his color? [34:00] Sam has a new scholarship program at Tuskegee to help bring in a more diverse set of people into forestry. [37:50] It's always been someone else's job to do the right thing but in today's landscape, people are doing more than just talking about diversity. [40:30] What advice would Sam like to give young professionals? [43:15] There are a lot of people out there willing to help but they're not out there looking for you to be a mentee. [46:24] What is MANRRS.org and how does it help students of color?   Mentioned in This Episode: S1|E12: Sam Cook — “Young leaders today have to say no and engage teams” Sam on LinkedIn Outwardbound.org MANRRS.org

Dr. Chris Davidson is the Director of Corporate Sustainability for WestRock Company. He is responsible for ensuring the company is a recognized global leader in sustainability and he leads the development of strategy, policy, goals, metrics, and reporting. With over 23 years of experience, Chris offers some words of advice for young people of color who have faced racism in the past and what aspiring forestry and natural resources professionals can do to get introduced into this field early in their career!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Chris's background. [3:10] How did Chris get into forestry and natural resources? [5:45] Did Chris have culture shock when he first came to the U.S. for an education? [7:35] What kinds of jobs did Chris have while he was studying? [10:40] What types of responsibilities does Chris have as the Director of Corporate Sustainability? [13:10] What was Chris's first job after school? [16:40] Chris explains what his first leadership role was like. [18:45] Chris offers advice for young professionals who have to prove their worth to their older coworkers. [21:00] Good leaders continue to be lifelong learners. [21:40] What is Chris most proud of? [27:20] Chris credits the diverse career opportunities he's had to his ability to just be open and say ‘yes.' [31:10] What has Chris's experience been like as a professional and leader of color? [34:00] If you change yourself to fit in, that's not going to work for so long. It's not sustainable. [34:45] What kind of challenges has Chris overcome? [37:00] You are who you are and you always just have to do your best. [40:25] What can the profession do to become more diverse? [48:15] Don't get discouraged when you run into hardships! It is worth it to continue.   Mentioned in This Episode: WestRock.com Chris on LinkedIn The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right, by Atul Gawande

Leslie Weldon is the Deputy Chief for Natural Forest System with the USDA Forest Service. In this role, she is the executive responsible for national policy and oversight and direction for Natural Resource programs. Leslie has always wanted to get into forestry and credits her time in the girl scouts in Japan for introducing her to the outdoors. Find out more about Leslie's thoughts on leadership and key lessons she's learned in her career on today's show!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Leslie's background. [3:35] How did Leslie get into forestry and natural resources? [8:35] While in university, she wasn't able to get a forest service job until a couple of summers later. Leslie shares her experience of how she was able to get into forestry. [15:35] Leslie was apart of a program called ‘Raise to the Future' and describes what it was like to work with other federal agencies. [18:50] What was it like being a District Ranger? [25:55] What leadership lessons has Leslie learned over the years? [31:45] Our changing climate has given the natural resources industry a wide range of challenges to solve. [33:20] What is Leslie most proud of so far? [38:25] Leslie's family still isn't 100% sure what she does for a living! [41:00] What's it like managing different levels of leadership roles? [45:05] Turn your challenges into opportunities. [49:15] Take some time to pause and reflect on your life and decisions. Make ‘time' your friend.   Mentioned in This Episode: US Forest Service: https://www.fs.fed.us Rise to the Future Program: https://www.fs.fed.us/biology/fish/fish.html Conservation Service Corps Programs: http://21csc.org On the call to Holiness in today's world by Pope Francis

This is Vince Keeler's second guest appearance! Welcome back, Vince. Since the last time we spoke, Vince has taken on a new position as the District Ranger on the Chickasawhay District in the Mississippi National Forest for the U.S. Forest Service. On today's show, Vince discusses his new role and responsibilities, what it means to be a trailblazer and the importance of a support system that cares for you when you are serving in rural areas.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Vince's background. [4:15] How did Vince get into forestry and natural resources? [8:20] What does a District Ranger do and what kind of responsibilities do they have? [9:20] What makes a job in forestry and natural resources so much fun? [12:00] What kinds of places has Vince seen since taking on this new position? [15:00] Vince has noticed that some people of color can be a bit fearful of joining a prominently all-white industry, but there's more to people than the color of their skin. [18:05] It's not always about you, it's about setting a good trail for the people behind you. Become a trailblazer! [20:15] It can be lonely. Find a mentor or a friend to help guide you through it. [26:45] Be open-minded when meeting new people. Find common ground and get to know the person. [30:50] It's a priceless experience that you can get to hike a mountain at work! [33:25] There are so many different ways to make a career in forestry. [38:10] What did Vince's parents think about his choice to go into forestry? [44:00] What's it like being a minority leader? Vince shares some of his thoughts. [48:55] Vince explains what he means by, “Be comfortable being uncomfortable.”   Mentioned in This Episode: “S3|E23: Vince Keeler — Let The Experts Be The Experts” Vince on LinkedIn Fs.usda.gov

Travis Perry is a Registered Forester and is currently the Market Development Manager for Weyerhaeuser. He first got introduced to this career as a young teenager in high school and went on to finish his BS in Forest Resources Management at Clemson University, and later, his MBA at East Carolina University. Travis discusses some of the difficulties of being the only African American while he attended university, leadership lessons he's learned over the years, and the challenges of including more minorities into the forestry field.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Travis's background. [3:40] How did Travis get into forestry and natural resources? [7:40] By going to camp, Travis was exposed to the importance of forestry and it introduced him to the profession at a young age. [9:25] Travis shares his experience as the only African American at Clemson University. [17:40] Because Travis was the only one, he had to work harder to prove his worth and capabilities due to having more eyes on him. [20:45] The extra pressure taught Travis how to be a better leader and take situations like this as challenges to be better. [29:10] When Travis goes back to Clemson, the talent that stands out the most are the students who really want to learn more about the profession. [31:15] How did Travis make the transition into what he's doing today? [42:10] What has been the most fun about Travis's career so far? [50:15] Travis discusses some of the challenges of introducing more minorities to forestry. [58:35] Why is Travis not a doctor or a lawyer or even an engineer? [1:03:40] You gotta ask the hard questions and also be conscious of what those answers might mean.   Mentioned in This Episode: Weyerhaeuser.com The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership: Follow Them and People Will Follow You, by John C. Maxwell

Byron Hart is a Forester and Fire Expert for the U.S. Forest Service and serves as the Fire Management Officer on the Osceola National Forest in Florida. After graduating from Florida A&M University and the University of Florida, Byron got his start as a Forester Trainee in the Ocala National Forest and served in a number of fire positions. On the show, Byron discusses how he got introduced to forestry, some of the challenges of being a leader, and how to empower your staff so that they take ownership of their work.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Byron's background. [3:25] How did Byron get into forestry and natural resources? [6:25] How did Byron first learn about the forest service and pick a career path? [12:30] What does the fire management position consist of? [15:30] Byron shares the leadership experience you get when you join the fire service. [17:25] What other types of career position has Byron taken on over the year? [21:20] Forest service has a lot of different avenues you can explore. [24:00] What is Byron most proud of in his career? [26:45] Did Byron have any challenges while transitioning into a leadership role? [30:15] What kind of mentors has Byron had over the years? [31:44] How was Byron's hotshot crew structured and what did they do? [34:45] As a person of color, has Byron experienced any personal difficulties or challenges? [36:50] How can the forest service be more proactive in attracting more diversity? [39:30] Empower your employees by having them take pride and ownership in what they're doing. [42:00] What types of skills do people need to learn to be a good leader? [45:45] Byron offers advice for young students looking to get into natural resources. [49:45] Tell your story and tell people why the forest service makes you happy. It might inspire somebody to join! [54:25] Lead from the heart and have passion for what you do.   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.usda.gov/osceola LEAD... for God's Sake! A Parable for Finding the Heart of Leadership, by Todd G. Gongwer

Tina Terrell has worked for the Forest Service over the last 34 years and is currently the Acting Associate Chief for Business Operations in the USDA Forest Service. She also has a Bachelor's Degree in Forest Science from Penn State University. Growing up, Tina was actively discouraged from joining the natural resource profession. She offers advice on today's show on how to overcome the naysayers and strive forward toward a career you're passionate about. Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Tina's background. [4:25] How did Tina get into forestry and natural resources? [6:50] When she told her people she wanted to be in natural resources, they actively discouraged her from it. [13:45] Tina discusses what determination means to her and why she has the drive that she has. [19:00] Be a sponge. Don't be afraid to question and learn from everything. [22:35] What advice does Tina have for other people of color who have been actively discouraged to pursue their passion? [29:20] Tina shares some wisdom that she had learned from one of her teachers. [31:50] Don't let other people put boulders in front of you. You can do it! [32:25] Has Tina ever been the ‘first and only' female person of color in her career path? [39:25] Tina discusses the kind of legacy she hopes to leave behind. [49:50] What has been the most fun about Tina's career so far? [59:30] Through Tina's work with Job Corps, their facilities now have a natural resource connection at all 25 centers, which helps students get introduced to the importance of forestry and natural resources. [1:02:55] Tina offers advice for students still on the fence about joining the forest service. [1:10:15] Tina recommends some of her favorite forestry books.   Mentioned in This Episode: Usda.gov Tina on LinkedIn Psu.edu Jobcorps.gov 1905 Use Book “The Land Ethic,” by Aldo Leopold “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People,” by Stephen Covey

Dr. Zakiya Leggett is a professor at North Carolina State University and College of Natural Resources. She currently teaches Introduction to Environmental Science and serves as the campus director for the Doris Duke Conservation Scholars program, which trains undergraduate students that are interested in research experiences in conservation issues as well as encouraging diversity in those fields. On the show, Zakiya shares her experiences as a sustainability scientist, her thoughts on including more diversity in the profession, and important advice to young students looking for a mentor or teacher.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Zakiya's background. [4:40] How did Zakiya get into natural resources? [9:40] What does Zakiya mean when she ‘groomed herself' for research? [12:45] After Zakiya finished her Ph.D., she found that the Forest Service did not have any available opportunities for her at the time. [14:40] What has been the most fun about Zakiya's career so far? [16:00] When does a student really ‘know' they have a sustainable career path? [18:45] Zakiya shares some of the ways you can shadow and learn from someone. [21:05] What kinds of challenges has Zakiya run into? [26:45] Is the profession making progress when it comes to diversity and more inclusion of other races and ethnicities? [30:05] Students have options and if they see a leadership team that doesn't reflect their values, they will look elsewhere. [32:15] What advice does Zakiya have for young students? [36:30] Zakiya shares her experience mentoring young students in the profession. [41:55] It's important to be proud of your achievements and accomplishments and to be able to articulate them into a resume, even if you only worked at a location for a week. [47:30] Leaders know when to follow and when to lead!   Mentioned in This Episode: Ncsu.edu Rtp.intlminutepress.com Zakiya on LinkedIn Manrrs.org

Ron Smith is a forester, teacher, pastor, and a leader. Ron has served as a Forester, District Ranger, and Administration Staff Officer (to name a few) during his 30+ years of being in the Forest Service and now serves as the Director of Forestry Natural Resources for Tuskegee University. On today's show, Ron shares his extensive experience of guiding and leading young students into the forestry field, how to navigate today's political climate when it comes to introducing more diversity into the industry, and shares some rewarding experiences he's had while in the Forest Service.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Ron's background. [3:05] How did Ron get into natural resources? [8:45] After 30 years, what kinds of things did Ron do for the Forest Service? [11:35] What was Ron's first leadership position like? [16:35] People might see the environmental groups as a negative aspect of the job, but Ron believes since they're members of the public, they should still be treated with respect. [19:15] How can you ‘posture' yourself effectively as a public servant? [28:15] What's been the most fun or challenging part of Ron's career so far? [36:00] How can the forestry industry make it more welcoming for people of color? [44:30] Do people of color see this profession — this line of outdoor work — negatively? [51:55] Ron recommends a couple of must-read books!   Mentioned in This Episode: Tuskegee.edu MANRRS.org The Greening of America, by Charles A. Reich The Autobiography of Malcolm X, by Malcolm X Future Shock, by Alvin Toffler Test of Faith, the movie

Alton Perry is the Program Manager and Sustainable Forestry and Land Retention Consultant for Roanoke Electric Cooperative, where he does outreach to African American forest landowners on land retention and building family wealth through forest management. Prior to this, Alton retired from the North Carolina Forest Service after 30 years of work. On the show, Alton shares how he became so diverse in his career, everything from being a certified arborist, providing wildfire training, urban forestry, and more! Alton is the perfect example that you will find something you love in this field, and pick up a diverse set of skills along the way!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Alton's background. [3:10] How did Alton get into natural resources? [6:10] What is the difference between a four year or two year university program? [9:15] What was Alton's first job in North Carolina Forest Service? [13:30] Alton shares what his first leadership experience was like. [17:25] What does it mean to be a certified arborist? [19:25] There are tons of diverse jobs in forestry that you can take on. [23:25] Alton shares a bit of history as to why so many African Americans have experienced land-loss. [29:10] How is the forest service so organized and able to move teams of firefighters to different state agencies during an emergency? [34:45] What has challenged Alton the most in his career? [36:55] Alton shares his thoughts on why it's been difficult to attract more diversity into the natural resources industry. [41:10] Who have been Alton's mentors over the years? [46:15] Explore, have an open mind, and create your own path in your life. [50:35] Remember, each person brings different gifts to the table and it's up to you, as the leader, to manage those gifts.   Mentioned in This Episode: Roanokecenter.org Alton on LinkedIn

Dr. Stacy Nelson is a professor in the College of Natural Resource Center for Geospatial Analytics at NC State University. Prior to this, Stacy was a NASA Graduate Research Fellow at the John C Stennis Space Center and an Adjunct Professor for the Department of Math and Science at Lansing Community College. Stacy's research primarily focuses on the use of remote sensing and GIS technologies to address questions of land use and land cover change on aquatic systems. On today's show, Stacy demonstrates why he's so passionate about the field of work he is in, the promising and optimistic things he sees in our younger generation, and he also explains how there is tons of growth and opportunity in natural resources.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Stacy's background. [3:35] How did Stacy get into natural resources? [12:15] Stacy highlights the importance of having mentors in your life to help push you into new fields of interests. [15:45] Did Stacy have to overcome a lot of challenges while in the natural resource field? [19:55] How did Stacy discover GIS technology and become specialized in that? [21:55] As a man of color, Stacy believes we still have a long way to go when it comes to diversity. [26:45] What keeps young children motivated and engaged when Stacy comes in to talk about natural resources? [29:25] Stacy shares a quick story about what he does and how engaged people can get when it comes to a topic like fish! [37:25] What do natural resource professionals need to learn sooner about people and managing people? [40:45] What does Stacy think about the next generation that will be coming into natural resources? [44:35] We are seeing more and more women join graduate programs in natural resources, but we still need to be doing a better job. [48:15] There's so much room for opportunity and growth in natural resources/forestry that the field can cater to literally any passion you might have about nature.   Mentioned in This Episode: Cmast.ncsu.edu

Dale Threatt-Taylor is the District Director of the Wake Soil and Water Conservation District in Wake County, North Carolina. She is responsible for implementing the strategic goals of her Board of Supervisors, as well as working in alignment of the District goals with the Wake County Board of Commissioners work goals. She is known as the ‘Conservation Evangelist' for her passion and commitment to soil and water conservation. Find out more about Dale's story, how she found her passion, and how young students can find a field they truly love.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Dale's background. [3:50] How did Dale get started in conservation? [6:55] You have to be passionate about what you do, but you also have to believe in what you do. [9:05] How can you find your passion? [11:05] It's okay to not know! It's okay to change directions to find your calling. [17:45] Why has it been difficult to include more people of color into natural resource fields? [20:35] Our society has a disconnect to nature. [24:10] How does Dale work with young people and students and introduce them to how amazing nature can be? [29:30] How does water conservation districts work? [33:05] What does Dale do as a soil and water conservationist? [38:55] What do students need to study in order to be a conservationist? [41:25] Dale shares some of the valuable lessons she's learned as a leader. [47:20] What does Dale think about the next generation of people coming into forestry? [51:25] Really love your educationors and ask them as many questions as possible. [56:00] To overcome anything in life, we have to sit down and talk. [1:01:15] Choose to be the lion!!   Mentioned in This Episode: Dale on LinkedIn Talent is Overrated by Geoffrey Colvin Taming Your Gremlin by Richard David Carson Crucial Conversations by Al Switzler, Joseph Grenny, and Ron McMillan

Tony Cheng is the Professor of Forest and Rangeland Stewardship and the Director of the Colorado Forest Restoration Institute at Colorado State University. Tony also has a PhD in Forestry from Oregon State University, a MS in Forestry from the University of Minnesota, and a BA in Political Science from Whitman College in Walla Walla, WA. On today's show, Tony expresses his gratitude for his grandparents, why forestry is incredibly important work, and leadership lessons he tries to instill in every one of his students.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Tony's background. [4:20] How did Tony get started in forestry? [6:55] Tony shares how he first got into political science. [9:35] Really, really find your passion. It may take time to find it, but don't stop looking until you do. [18:00] What was Tony's first job in forestry like? [24:55] Lesson one as a leader: It's not about you. [27:30] Tony explains why leadership is a verb! [31:05] For every criticism provide 5 positive types of feedback.   [36:20] Tony is so grateful that his grandparents and parents took the step and sacrifice to migrate to the U.S. They went through a lot of suffering to ensure their children and grandchild could have a good life. [41:25] Tony shares that he has never been discriminated against in his career. The forestry industry has welcomed him with open arms. [47:25] What advice does Tony have for first or second generation Americans who wish to join a natural resource career? [53:45] Celebrate your authentic self. Don't let people hold you back because of your race. [55:45] Tony shares some final thoughts about why forestry is so important for our world.   Mentioned in This Episode: Cfri.colostate.edu

Alex Harvey is a 2005 graduate of Mississippi State University College of Forest Resources. He first began his career in Florida as a Forester before taking on a position with the U.S. Forest Service on the Allegany National Forest in Northwest Pennsylvania. Alex also took on a position as a Sustainable Forestry and Land Retention Program Manager for the Federation of Southern Cooperatives. On today's show, Alex explains how enriching his work is, why he's building a legacy he can be proud of, and how to incorporate more diversity into forestry.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [3:45] How did Alex get started in forestry? [8:40] Alex shares what it was like to get his first job in forestry. [13:25] Alex is very proud to have worked with the U.S. Endowment for Forestry & Communities and with African American landowners in Alabama and Mississippi. [18:25] What has been the most memorable or fun job Alex has had so far? [20:40] What kind of mentors has Alex had over the years? [28:45] How can we bring in more diversity into forestry? [34:30] If you want to be successful in forestry, you have to be able to connect with people in an organic way. Nature unites us! [39:20] Why did Alex have to build trust with landowners about the forestry profession? [42:55] What kind of challenges has Alex faced as a person of color in the industry? [45:00] Alex shares some of his leadership experience and the first time he got a leadership role. [49:15] What advice does Alex have for young forest professionals? [53:50] Remember, you can achieve whatever you set your mind to!   Mentioned in This Episode: Federationsoutherncoop.com Alex on LinkedIn Crimson Tide

Mavis Gragg graduated from UNC-Chapel Hill and Pepperdine School of Law and also has her own law practice, Gragg Law Firm. At her firm, she helps individuals and families maintain and grow their wealth. Her expertise is in estate planning, estate administration, and heirs property. Mavis shares what a lot of prominent black families have to go through when it comes to heirs property, things programs and universities can do to attract more diversity, and her personal experiences as a woman of color that works one-on-one with foresters. Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Mavis's background. [3:50] How did Mavis get into forestry? [6:35] Mavis explains what ‘Heirs Property' truly means. [7:55] What types of clients does Mavis typically work with? [9:30] How does land loss and loss of ownership rights happen? [12:20] Mavis shares an example of how land loss can impact African American families. [16:15] When did land loss really start to become addressed as a problem? [21:10] How does Mavis find her clients and educate the general public about the work that she does? [23:15] What's the most fun/rewarding aspects about this job? [26:15] What career advice would Mavis give about natural resources? [30:45] Over the years, what has Mavis learned about leadership? [34:15] Life does gets busy, but do not neglect yourself. Mavis emphasizes why it's important to practice self-care. [34:55] What kind of mentors has Mavis had over the years? [39:45] Mavis shares some of her personal experiences of being in the workforce as a woman of color. [41:30] People of color have a strong distrust towards the legal profession, even if the professional is someone of color. [45:25] Mavis shares what's it like working with foresters and other professionals in this field. [48:25] What can the profession as a whole do to better attract people of color into the industry? [56:50] Find out who the leaders of your community are and connect with them. Mentioned in This Episode: Manrrs.org Gragglawfirm.com How Not to Save the World by Jessica Yinka Thomas

Terry Baker is the Deputy Forest Supervisor for the Arapaho and Roosevelt National Forests and Pawnee National Grassland in Colorado. This is Terry's second guest appearance on the podcast and he is the first guest to kick off season five of Leadership Nature. Today's topic dives into people of color working in forestry, what the industry needs to do to better attract a diverse set of people, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Terry's background. [3:15] How did Terry get into forestry? [13:15] Terry is so glad that forestry found him. He had no idea that this was — and could be — a career path. [14:30] Terry shares his thoughts on why there is a small representation of people of color in the forestry industry. [16:15] People of color still have a very negative stigma about doing work outside and ‘in the fields.' [21:40] What has Terry's experience been like as a forester, a leader, of color? [35:00] Unfortunately, many people in the forestry profession do not notice or are aware of how much a person of color has to constantly prove themselves. [40:10] So many assumptions get thrown around on what's the ‘right way' to act towards a person of color, but in the end, we are just people! [43:25] In order to truly achieve diversification in an agency, we have to be willing to have a dialogue and talk through what's appropriate and what's not. [52:00] What does Terry see the future of forestry going? [57:50] Terry offers his thoughts on what it means to build a legacy.   Mentioned in This Episode: FS.USDA.gov Terry on Leadership Nature S3 E10 Terry on LinkedIn

Ken Pimlott is the Director of California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection since 2011. Ken began his career as a reserve firefighter with the Contra Costa Fire Protection District. On today's show, Ken explains why firefighters have to become good leaders, the best ways to navigate a changing workforce, and leadership lessons he wished he learned sooner!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Ken 's background. [3:25] How did Ken become interested in forestry? [5:45] Why is leadership so critical in the fire community? [9:35] Every firefighter is a leader in their own right. When a fire is happening, you can't always call base to find out what to do next. [10:10 What does Ken mean by ‘leader's intent'? [11:45] What have been some of Ken's defining moments that really shaped and modeled him? [15:15] In today's climate, Ken has never seen so many people agree and be in alignment about the importance of our forests. [17:00] What's it like being the CEO of an agency compared to being in more of a middle management leadership role? [24:40] What is Ken most proud of in his career? [27:45] Ken shares what he wished he learned sooner about leadership. [31:00] How does Ken manage and work with the younger generation? [34:50] How can someone be successful in their career? [38:15] Don't be afraid to take action.   Mentioned in This Episode: Calfire.ca.gov/about Ken on Twitter Ken on LinkedIn The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors Book, by James D. Hornfischer

Scott Phillips is the State Forester for South Carolina's Forestry Commission. As agency head, Scott provides oversight for all functions of the agency and works with a nine-member board to set agency policy and direction. Scott first got his start in 1999 as a Forester. On today's show, Scott shares timeless wisdom about leadership and highly recommends for a young professional to attend a fire program to build key leadership skills. There is always an opportunity to lead up!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Scott's background. [3:20] How did Scott become interested in forestry? [9:20] What did Scott's first job look like? [14:50] Scott sees it as a blessing being able to work in forestry every day. [15:25] What was Scott's first leadership position? [19:00] You learn a lot about leadership when you're in a fire program. [22:05] If you stick with the status quo, you're going to fall behind the curve. [23:35] Scott shares what the South Carolina Forest Service is currently working on. [30:10] The Forest Service recently celebrated their 90th anniversary. [35:10] How does leadership change at this level? [40:45] As a leader, don't be so quick to speak up. It can quickly squash conversation, which can take away the power from your team. [44:55] If you really want to make an impact, you gotta be able to communicate and listen. [47:45] If your team is not performing to your expectations, then you're doing something wrong.   Mentioned in This Episode: State.sc.us/forest/ Seedling Partnership Article Harvard Business Review Podcast Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin

Brian Cottam is the Utah State Forester and Director of the Utah Division of Forestry, Fire, and State Lands. Brian is also responsible for wildfire management on state and private lands and oversees Utah State's sovereign lands. On the show, Brian shares what he is most proud of in his career, how young professionals can get ahead by taking an interest in soft skills, and how to best manage the complex ‘ego-system' at work.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Brian's background. [3:25] How did Brian become interested in forestry? [5:50] What were some of Brian's favorite jobs? [9:10] You can't be successful alone, you can only be successful through partnerships. [10:35] Unfortunately, not enough people have the correct understanding of what it truly means to collaborate with others. [13:45] What is unique about Utah's ecosystem and forests? [16:55] What kind of leadership positions has Brian had over the years? [21:15] Most foresters aren't trained to manage people, so it's important to bring your team with you on the leadership journey. [21:35] What is Brian most proud of? [26:15] Brian was not aware of how political you have to be at the state forester level when he first took on the position. [28:15] What does Brian wish he'd learned sooner about leadership? [34:40] Brian discusses what he loves about working with the younger generation. [38:00] What advice does Brian have for the young professionals out there? [46:30] What other lessons has Brian learned throughout the years?   Mentioned in This Episode: Ffsl.utah.gov Brian on LinkedIn Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In, by Roger Fisher, William L. Ury, and Bruce Patton

Tom Boggus is the State Forester of Texas and the Director of Texas A&M Forest Service. Tom has worked for the State of Texas since 1980 and has been the State Forester since 2010. During this time, Tom oversaw and led the response team during the worst wildfire season in Texas history. Find out more about Tom's extensive career and his leadership principles on this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Tom's background. [3:40] How did Tom become interested in forestry? [7:35] What was it like when Tom was in the forest service during one of the worst wildfire seasons in Texas history? [10:50] What was Tom's first job like? [14:25] If you don't know how to deal with or communicate with people, then you will not be successful in forestry. [16:35] Tom shares what makes the Texas Forest Service unique and some of the landscape differences compared to other states. [22:15] What was Tom's first leadership position like? [27:25] People aren't going to respect a leader purely by the title. Leaders have to earn it. [34:15] Mistakes are one thing, just don't make a habit of repeating the course. [34:55] What's it like leading on the State Forester level? [45:55] What does Tom wished he learned sooner in his career? [49:35] What advice does Tom giver his new employees? [53:45] The future is bright for forestry! [58:55] You have to dream, but more importantly, you have to believe in the dream.   Mentioned in This Episode: Texasforestservice.tamu.edu A Passion for Leadership by Robert Gates Intentional Living by John Maxwell The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout

Larry Kotchman has been the State Forester of North Dakota for the last 31 years; he is currently the longest active serving State Forester. As State Forester, Larry is responsible for the administration of the North Dakota Forest Service, managing the agency's $50 million budget, and directing statewide forestry services through three leadership teams. On today's show, Larry discusses why building relationships and trust is a continuous process, leadership lessons he wished he'd learned sooner, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Larry's background. [3:15]  How did Larry become interested in forestry? [6:15] What types of mentors has Larry had over the years? [9:30] Larry shares what his first formal leadership job was like. [12:25] As a State Forester, how is the leadership different compared to a more frontline manager? [17:35] What was Larry's experience like at Harvard? How does the executive fellow program on leadership work? [19:50] What is like being the State Forester for North Dakota and what exciting programs are up ahead for the state? [22:05] What's the hardest part of being a leader? [25:10] As a leader, it's important to not only lead but to also shape the environment you're in so that your team remains calm and has the confidence to excel at their tasks. [27:20] What does Larry mean when he says that formal authority has its limitations? [29:55] When making a transition to a different level of leadership, what are some of the best things you can do to handle that transition with your colleagues? [32:05] What did Larry wish he'd learned sooner about leadership? [38:25] Learning how to communicate effectively is a highly sought-after skill. [42:25] Larry shares his thoughts about the future of forestry. [47:25] Larry recommends reading the book, A Sand County Almanac!   Mentioned in This Episode: Ag.ndsu.edu A Sand County Almanac (Outdoor Essays & Reflections) by Aldo Leopold Larry on LinkedIn

Kacey KC is currently the State Forester & Fire Warren for the Nevada Division of Forestry. She is a Nevada Native and she earned her Bachelor's degree in Forestry and Natural Resource Conservation from the University of Montana. She spent some time overseas with the Peace Corps as a community forester in Nepal. On today's show, Kacey discusses some of the challenges of working between both state and federal governments, some amazing projects happening at the Nevada division, and shares why she recommends young adults to join the Peace Corps.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Kacey's background. [3:30]  How did Kacey become interested in forestry? [5:10] What made Kacey decide to join the Peace Corps and what was that experience like? [10:35] Kacey shares her story of how she helped the Nepalese overcome certain challenges with their forests. [13:55] Kacey's transition back home from Nepal was difficult to get accustomed to. [16:55] What kinds of fun or memorable jobs has Kacey had before she become State Forester? [19:50] What is Kacey most proud of in her Nevada division? [23:55] Kacey discusses some of the challenges of working with the state and federal government. [29:50] Who have been some of Kacey's mentors? [33:05] What advice does Kacey have for young professionals? [37:20] Failure is the best teacher. [42:35] Kacey recommends the book, Extreme Ownership. [45:00] As leaders, it's important to just be honest and straightforward.   Mentioned in This Episode: Forestry.nv.gov Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin

Barry Cook is a West Virginia native, a military veteran, and has been a seasoned forester for the last 45 years. Barry began his career as a logging superintendent and has slowly risen the ranks since then, starting his own company in 2005. He currently serves as the Director and State Forester of the West Virginia Division of Forestry. On the show, Barry shares lessons he learned as an impatient manager, the types of projects he's working on for the State and encourages young professionals to become bilingual.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Barry's background. [3:20]  How did Barry become interested in forestry? [5:05] When Barry was growing up in West Virginia, there was no game around where he lived. Why was that? [9:00] How did Barry get his first job in forestry? [11:45] Barry has never hired someone off the internet. He believes in face-to-face interactions. [12:55] What have been some of the more interesting jobs Barry has had over the years? [20:20] As Barry works with a lot of corporate and private sectors, does it make the work that he does more or less challenging as a State Forester? [24:45] Barry discusses some new and exciting projects that are happening in West Virginia right now. [28:05] What does Barry wish he'd learned sooner in his career? [33:25] Barry highly recommends that young managers take professional management training. There are a lot of restrictions on what you can and can't do these days; having someone by your side will help you not to get in trouble. [35:30] What advice does Barry have for retaining new talent? [40:55] Barry shares his thoughts and resources for those just entering the workforce. [44:15] Barry recommends two books! [50:00] You don't have to know everything to move into a new position.   Mentioned in This Episode: WVcommerce.org Barry on LinkedIn Swim with the Sharks Without Being Eaten Alive: Outsell, Outmanage, Outmotivate, and Outnegotiate Your Competition, by Harvey B Mackay Yeager: An Autobiography, by Chuck Yeager

Peter Church is the Director of Forest Stewardship for Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation, where he oversees the agency's statewide forest conservation program and the implementation of a new strategic direction for the Bureau of Forest Fire Control and Forestry. Peter has over 29 years of experience and shares key examples of what he wished he had learned sooner about leadership. Do not miss Peter's insight on the importance of the work we do as foresters, why we need to get better at communication to the public, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Peter's background. [2:45] How did Peter become interested in forestry? [6:15] What was Peter's school experience like? [10:25] Peter discusses how he overcame his fear of public speaking. [11:35] What was Peter's first management position like? [12:10] Peter discusses some leadership lessons he wished he'd learned sooner while he was managing a team of 75 park rangers at once. [13:50] What's it like managing people at the State Forester level? [15:50] Peter shares some exciting new projects the department is taking on. [18:00] What types of mentors has Peter had over the years? [22:30] What kinds of challenges has Peter faced as a leader? [25:00] Remember, you're going to make mistakes! [25:10] Peter discusses what he likes about the newer generation coming into the workforce. [27:35] Peter offers some advice for those thinking about forestry or currently in school for it. [30:25] How can people learn how to become a better leader? What resources does Peter recommend?   Mentioned in This Episode: Mass.gov Soul of the Lion: A Biography of General Joshua L. Chamberlain, by Willard M. Wallace Gettysburg (1993)

Brad Simpkins is the Director and State Forester of the New Hampshire Division of Forests and Lands. He is responsible for forestry, forest management, and forest lands. Brad has worked for the division since 1998 and became the State Forester when he was 35. On the show, Brad discusses the beautiful and diverse wildlands of New Hampshire, how leadership is different on the State Forester level, and why he loves working with the younger generation.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Brad's background. [2:50] How did Brad become interested in forestry? [5:05] What has Brad's experience been like while working with the younger generation? [10:00] After school, what were some of the first forestry jobs he took on? [12:55] What types of wildland does New Hampshire have? [15:05] What was the transition like from being more of an employee to a manager? [18:00] Brad discusses how his team reacted to him when he first became a supervisor. [20:20] How long does it really take for a person to settle into a new role? [21:25] What job has been the most fun for Brad to do so far? [25:10] Brad discusses some of the new projects being added to the New Hampshire. Division of Forests and Lands. [30:55] Brad works a lot with the state's legislators and representatives to help keep them informed about what goes on in forestry. [32:55] Brad discusses the leadership differences between being a manager vs. being a state forester. [39:45] What does Brad love about working with the next generation? [44:20] What does the profession need to be better at in order to be prepared for the future?   Mentioned in This Episode: Nhdfl.org Crucial Conversations, by Al Switzler, Joseph Grenny, and Ron McMillan Brad on LinkedIn

Jim Karels is the Florida State Forester and Director of the Florida Forest Service. Jim is a native of Minnesota and has more than 35 years of experience in wildfire suppression and land management. Also, Jim represents all 50 states on the Wildland Fire Leadership Council, Wildland Fire Executive Council, and the National Association of State Foresters Fire Committee. On today's show, Jim talks about Florida's excellent Operation Outdoor Freedom program, the difference in leadership at the state forester level, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Jim's background. [2:50] How did Jim become interested in forestry? [4:25] What are some of the benefits of starting out in firefighting? [5:05] After graduating from university, what was Jim's first job like? [7:05] What was the transition like from having to take orders vs. being the one having to give direction? [10:15] As you move up into leadership positions in forestry, you have to make decisions based off of little to no data. This is a hard transition for a very analytical, data-driven forester. [11:25] How is leadership different at the state forester level? [16:15] What has been the most surprising about the state forester role so far? [17:35] Jim discusses the Operation Outdoor Freedom program and what it is about. [24:25] When it comes to leadership, what does Jim wish he learned about sooner? [27:30] What is Jim learning about the younger generation entering into the workforce? [30:05] Jim offers advice for those young professionals out there! [32:45] What kind mentors has Jim had in the past? [35:05] Where is this profession headed and what do professionals need to be aware of? [38:20] Remember: Lead by example. If your example is not good, then your leadership won't be either.   Mentioned in This Episode: Freshfromflorida.com Nwcg.gov Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer

Jeff Whitney is currently the Arizona State Forester and Director of Department of Forestry and Fire Management, where he overseas roughly 150 people. Prior to working for the Arizona State, Jeff enjoyed a brief retirement and a 36 year career with the federal government of Natural Resources and Emergency Response. However, Jeff began his career in 1972 as a seasonal firefighter! On the show, Jeff shares his extensive experience with us, how it's really always been about the people, and leadership lessons he wished he knew sooner!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Jeff's background. [3:30] How did Jeff become interested in forestry? [5:25] How did Jeff get started in firefighting? [8:25] Jeff discusses some of the highlights of his career. [10:20] Your people skills are as important as your scientific attitude. [20:40] After 36 years with the federal service, Jeff retired...but not for long. 18 months later, he was back at it again. [24:35] The longer you spend time in a team, the more resilient you are to deal with the unexpected. [27:15] What is Jeff the most proud of at the Arizona Department of Forestry and Fire Management? [34:15] Jeff discusses some of the leadership lessons he's learned over the years. [36:55] What leadership lessons does Jeff wished he learned sooner? [39:40] A little bit of humbleness goes a long way in leadership. [40:00] What is Jeff discovering about working with the next generation? [42:55] Just starting out in your career? The first thing you gotta do is find your north star! [50:50] If your hearts right and you're working with the right people on a tough problem, you're going to come out with a decent outcome.   Mentioned in This Episode: The Five Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable by Patrick Lencioni The Art Of War Paperback by Sun Tzu Dffm.az.gov

Larry Biles has a BS in Forestry from the University of Missouri and an MS in Ornamental Horticulture from Kansas State University. Following two years with the U.S. Army, Larry spent eight years as a District Forester at Kansas State University. Today, he has 50 years of experience under his belt and is the State Forester of Kansas. On the show, Larry shares his leadership experience, what it means to be people-oriented, and discusses the benefits of working in urban forestry.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Larry's background. [3:45] How did Larry become interested in forestry? [7:35] What kind of tasks did Larry do when he took his first job in forestry? [9:25] Over the years, what were some of Larry's favorite jobs to do? [11:55] Urban forestry and community forestry are great opportunities for new foresters who may not be thinking about that as a career path. [16:00] What have been some of the biggest challenges Larry has faced in his career? [19:40] What are the demographics of Larry's staff? [21:00] What does Larry like the most about working with the younger generation? [22:25] Larry discusses the difference in leadership style when you're a frontline manager vs. a state forester. [25:55] What did Larry wish he'd learned sooner about managing people? [27:25] How does Larry focus on being more people-oriented — as opposed to task-oriented — with his staff? [30:25] Larry has some advice for young students out there looking to get into forestry. [34:10] What are some of the best ways to improve your leadership skills? [37:00] How is the forestry industry changing as a whole and what do foresters need to do to be prepared for the future? [41:20] Larry talks a little bit about the history of the Kansas Forest Service. [43:50] How does Larry attract and retain new talent?   Mentioned in This Episode: Kansasforests.org Toastmasters.org

David Smith was born and raised in Hawaii and began his career as a biologist in 1983. Today, he is the State Forester and the Forestry and Wildlife Administrator for the Division of Forestry and Wildlife in Hawaii. On today's show, David talks about the diverse ecosystem of Hawaii, how good leaders talk it out — not shout it out — and to not beat yourself up too much if you get passed up for a promotion.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about David's background. [2:40] How did David become interested in forestry? [3:50] What types of jobs have been the most memorable for David? [6:10] What was David's first leadership position? [7:45] David discusses what kinds of things began to change during the leadership position. [10:05] What is Hawaii's ecosystem like? [18:35] What's David the proudest of? [27:00] Don't raise your voice. Talk it out. Most of us have 95% in common. [31:00] Designing an effective process is crucial. David shares an example of what he means by a ‘good' process. [33:35] What advice does David have for younger professionals wanting to get started? [41:05] How does David attract and retain talent? [45:25] Don't get too upset if you're not moving up quick enough.   Mentioned in This Episode: DLNR.hawaii.gov/dofaw/ Golf Is Not A Game Of Perfect, by Bob Rotella and Robert Cullen Drucker.institute A Pattern Language: Towns, Building, Construction, by Christopher Alexander, Sara Ishikawa, and Murray Silverstein

Gerry Day is the State Forester and Deputy Supervisor for Wildfire for the state of Washington's Department of Natural Resources, a position he's held since 2017. Gerry is responsible for forest health and wildland fire programs in the department as well as preparing and suppressing wildfires, fire training, and firefighting aviation operations. Gerry has over 40 years of experience and discusses some of the fantastic leadership opportunities you can have while in firefighting.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Gerry's background. [3:00] How did Gerry become interested in forestry? [5:10] What kind of leadership lessons did Gerry learn about while being a firefighter? [7:10] What's the best way for a young professional to become part of the fire community? [10:05] How did Gerry transition from being a firefighter to where he is today? [16:35] What was Gerry's first leadership position like? [19:40] What does Gerry mean when ‘followship is part of leadership'? [21:45] Has Gerry noticed a difference in leadership the more senior he has become in his positions and roles? [26:15] Take a close look at your own biases. [29:05] Everything is a learning opportunity. [34:20] When Gerry stepped into a new leadership role in 1996, it took him around 8-10 months before he could fully understand the business. You have to understand the business first before you start shaking things up. [36:35] What is Gerry most proud of in his current position? [39:45] Really take a moment and listen to the younger generation or even the newer guys coming in. They have a completely unique perspective. [43:05] What advice does Gerry have for young professionals?   Mentioned in This Episode: Invictus (2009)

Joe Fox is the Arkansas State Forester and oversees the Arkansas Forestry Commission, a position he has held since 2012. Joe is a native of Arkansas and worked a family-owned lumber business for over 20 years. He is also the former President of the Arkansas Forestry Association and former Chair of the Arkansas Forestry Commission. Joe is a third-generation forester and on the show, he discusses some of the leadership differences from being a family-owned business to running the Arkansas Forestry Commission, why you can never have too many friends, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Joe's background. [3:20] How did Joe become interested in forestry? [6:45] Does Joe recommend that young foresters also get a business education as well? [8:25] What was Joe's first job out of forestry school? [11:00] Joe discusses some of the mentors he has had throughout his career. [14:45] Why did Joe leave his family's forestry business and set out on his own? [19:15] You can never have too many friends! Relationships are still the number one reason people join churches or become foresters. [25:55] What has Joe learned about leadership while being the CEO of an agency? [28:55] Plan your work and work your plan. [29:50] What does Joe wish he learned sooner about leadership? [30:00] Joe never learned anything while he was talking! [32:00] What kind of leadership principles would Joe like to convey to the new leaders out there?  [35:10] Remember, words mean things. [36:45] Joe discusses what he likes about working with the younger generation. [38:45] What are some of the ways we can attract and retain our young talent? [41:35] Respect all the different types of people that you come across in your work.[44:05] Joe recommends reading the book Masters of the Air.   Mentioned in This Episode: Aad.arkansas.gov Masters of the Air: America's Bomber Boys Who Fought the Air War Against Nazi Germany, by Donald L. Miller Patton (1970)

Rick Oates was appointed the State Forester of Alabama in 2017. In his role, he leads the Alabama Forestry Commission, which protects and sustains Alamba's 203 million acres of forest land and he also helps educate the public about the importance of forestry to the environment and the economy of the state. Rick has over 20 years of forestry experience and on today's show, he shares some of the challenges of being a state forester in today's world. Resources are becoming limited, foresters are needed more than ever to find efficient solutions.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Rick 's background. [3:00] How did Rick become interested in forestry? [6:35] What kind of work did Rick do while he was getting his education?  [11:10] Tom tried growing a beard to help himself look older when he was leading his older peers. [13:05] What has been the most rewarding work Rick has done so far? [16:45] How is leadership different at the ‘top' compared to more frontline management? [19:45] Rick discusses why it's so critical to have a mentor or somebody to confide in. [25:35] You will make mistakes. Own up to it and get your team involved to help find new solutions. [32:00] What has Rick learned so far about the next generation of professionals he's working with? [34:00] How does Rick retain and keep young talent in today's world? [36:25] What recommendations does Rick have for leadership resources and training? [38:50] Where does Rick think the future of forestry is headed? [41:30] Natural resources are going to become more and more limited and we need to find ways to use them most efficiently.  [43:25] Rick has a goal to read a biography about each and everyone of our Presidents and their leadership styles.   Mentioned in This Episode: Forestry.alabama.gov

Donald Griego started his career with the New Mexico Forestry Division in 1997 and graduated from New Mexico State University with a B.S. in Wildlife Management. Donald was the State Fire Management Officer and Resource Protection Bureau Chief for 13 years and has held over 11 positions in the 21 years he's worked in forestry. Today, Donald currently serves as the State Forester of New Mexico.   On the show, Donald shares his diverse experience as a forester and offers advice for young forestry professionals looking to advance their career. His advice is: You can't always rely on texting to get the job done! Go out there and meet people, shake their hands, and look them in their eye. It goes a long, long way.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Donald's background. [2:40] How did Donald become interested in forestry? [4:05] What was Donald's first job for the Forest Service like? [5:10] Donald has been with the Forest Service for 21 years and has held 11 positions. Most new folks coming in only stay around for five years before transitioning into something else. [6:25] What's the most challenging/fun job Donald has had so far? [10:25] How is New Mexico's terrain different compared to other states? [11:55] How do leadership responsibilities differ when taking on different management roles? [13:05] Over the years, Donald has had to learn how to adapt to new technologies in order to communicate with the younger generation. [14:25] What does Donald wish he'd learned sooner about leadership? [17:40] What does Donald love about this next generation or two that are coming into the industry? [18:25] What is Donald most proud of in his career? [20:00] Get out there and communicate! You can't always rely on email or texting to get the job done. [21:15] How can the younger generation build leadership skills? [24:05] Donald shares some of his mentors that have made an impact on him throughout his career. [25:45] What are some things the forestry industry can get improve upon? [28:00] Donald recommends checking out the author Oren Harari! [29:55] Remember! You can't do this alone. We need everybody to come together to promote forest health.   Mentioned in This Episode: Emnrd.state.nm.us Leadership Secrets of Colin Powell, by Oren Harari Gifts Differing: Understanding Personality Type, by Isabel Briggs Myers and Peter B. Myers

George Geissler is a Certified Forester and has been a member of the Society of American Foresters since 1987. He received his Bachelor of Science degree in Forest Management from Louisiana State University and a Master of Business Administration degree from Harvard University. George currently works as a State Forester and is the Director of the Forestry Services Division in Oklahoma. On today's show, George offers some words of wisdom on what he wished he had learned sooner in his career, why he decided to get his MBA, and why he loves to hire those who think much differently than he!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about George's background. [4:10] How did George become interested in forestry? [6:30] Despite the many years George has been in forestry, he still gets family members not understanding 100% what he does! [8:50] How does George educate others about Oklahoma's diverse forestry? [10:55] What makes Oklahoma's forest so unique? [16:25] Why did George decide to get an MBA at Harvard during his forestry career? [18:50] What is the leadership like on a corporate level? [23:30] What is the hardest part about having a job like this? [25:35] You need to look at things with a different perspective and you do that by hiring people who don't think like you. [28:20] What is George most proud of in his career? [34:25] Great communicators are often truly passionate people in what they're doing. [35:00] What does George wish he'd learned sooner in his career? [39:05] What advice does George have for young professional foresters? [41:40] George and his team make it a priority to maintain and enhance a learning department in their office. Learning never stops. [43:40] George shares his favorite quote!   Mentioned in This Episode: Forestry.ok.gov Apollo 13

Bob Boyes has dual executive leadership responsibilities with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources. At the department, he works as a State Forester as well as Deputy Director. He is responsible for the Division of Forestry, the Division of Wildlife, the Mineral Resource Management, and the office of Real Estate Land Management. With his extensive leadership experience, Bob offers some key advice on how to be an excellent leader, the differences between being a frontline manager and an executive, and what he looks for in a new hire.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Bob's background. [3:00] How did Bob become interested in forestry? [6:30] What was Bob's transition like from forester to leader? [11:05] What's the difference between being a frontline manager and being an executive? [13:35] What is Bob the proudest of in his career? [16:40] How does Bob find his talent? What kind of forester does he look for? [18:10] Bob discusses the generational differences in the talent pool and what he's learned from the younger generation so far. [22:15] What did Bob wish he learned about leadership early on in his career? [28:15] Once you've accepted that everybody's different, then everything else ends up making sense. [31:35] What are some of the best ways a new forester can improve their skills? [33:25] What kind of future challenges do foresters need to be thinking about? [35:40] Bob recommends reading Shackleton's Way and The Sociopath Next Door to help better understand people. [38:55] Bob shares some final words of wisdom: Always retain an open mind!   Mentioned in This Episode: Ohiodnr.gov Shackleton's Way: Leadership Lessons from the Great Antarctic Explorer, by Margot Morrell and Stephanie Capparell The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout

Steve Sinclair is the Director of Forests and State Forester for the Vermont Department of Forest, Parks, and Recreation. Steve has more than 40 years in the industry and has taken on a wide variety of interesting leadership roles since then. On the show, Steve discusses how to lead a productive team, having fun on the job, and finding ways to adapt to new and challenging situations. With Steve's extensive wisdom and optimism, this is not a show you want to miss!   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Steve's background. [3:05] How did Steve become interested in forestry? [5:15] Steve discusses why his father has been a very inspirational mentor to him and how he was so graceful when it came to office politics and conflict resolution. [7:50] As a forester, it's so important to become a good listener and to have empathy for others. [9:20] How are we as a profession doing when it comes to managing the public's expectations of the resources we have? [10:00] The definition of a healthy forest is: productive, diverse, complex, and resilient. A leader should also have these same qualities too. [12:00] Our profession still has a long way to go when it comes to diversity. Why has progress been slow? [15:00] What kinds of challenges has Steve had when it comes to hiring and acquiring new talent? [23:15] Steve has taken a wide variety of forestry positions since joining the industry 43 years ago. What have been some of the interesting things he's seen and done throughout his career so far? [30:50] What has Steve noticed about leadership based on the various roles he's taken so far? How does leadership change depending on the position you're in? [34:45] Balancing work and your private life is incredibly important in anything you do. When these two things match well, then productivity increases! [36:05] Steve uses the StrengthsFinder tool to help get the best out of his team. [38:15] What is Steve most proud of in his career? [42:20] What did Steve wish he'd learned sooner about his profession? [45:20] What advice does Steve have for young foresters? [51:00] Steve highly recommends the book The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. [53:45] Do you want to be right or do you want to do the right thing?   Mentioned in This Episode: FPR.vermont.gov/forest Steve on Twitter The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen R. Covey StrengthsFinder 2.0, by Tom Rath

Vince Keeler has 15 years of experience as a forester and earned his Bachelor of Science in Environmental Science & Natural Resource Management at Tuskegee University. Vince currently works as the Director of Forestry for the Center for Heirs' Property Preservation. On the show, Vince explains why it's important to let your team do what they do best and how sometimes the best way to resolve a disagreement is just by taking a look outside your office walls and going through the forest with your colleague.   Key Takeaways: [:50] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Vince's background. [2:45] How did Vince become interested in forestry? [5:25] What was Vince's first forestry job like? [8:45] Vince was happy he was fighting wildfires because he was able to move to different states and see more of the U.S. It was very rewarding work. [10:00] Fast forward seven years later, Vince ended up becoming a Timber Management Officer and oversaw a staff of 13. [14:05] How can you become a better expert in your field? [18:00] What does Vince currently do for the Center for Heirs' Property Preservation? [20:25] Vince shares a story of how his company helps local families and the community. [23:30] Vince is looking to hire a forester! [24:00] What has been the most fun about Vince's career? [27:05] What kinds of mentors has Vince had over the years? [31:45] Older foresters, you gotta take the time to write down your expertise so you can use it to educate others. The knowledge you know will get lost if you don't. [33:20] What kinds of things can the forestry profession improve upon? [37:20] What does Vince wish he'd learned sooner? [39:00] Vince recommends reading the Bible. So many great lessons and inspiring messages in there.   Mentioned in This Episode: Heirsproperty.org Email Vince: vkeeler@heirsproperty.org

Brandon Bal is an Area Manager for American Forest Management (AFM) and earned his B.S. at Michigan Tech. Brandon leveraged some of AFM's programs and was able to further his education online while he was still working. On the show, Brandon explains the benefits of furthering your education online, how to manage and work with older foresters, and the leadership lessons he's learned from Band of Brothers.   Key Takeaways: [:55] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:35] A quick intro about Brandon's background. [3:00] How did Brandon become interested in forestry? [6;40] When Brandon was at American Forest Management (AFM), he was able to take advantage of furthering his education online. [8:15] What has been the most fun about Brandon's career so far? [9:45] Brandon discusses how the most challenging thing that he's had to face in his career was one of his staff members committing suicide. [11:30] What kind of leadership lessons has Brandon learned along the way? [18:00] Getting good at communication is the hardest thing to do, but it's by far the most important. [19:00] What kind of mentors has Brandon had over the years? [21:10] What advice does Brandon have for young professionals? [23:05] Brandon has had some failures throughout his career. What did he learn about that? [24:45] Where does Brandon see the forestry profession going in the next couple of years? [27:15] Brandon recommends reading Band of Brothers for leadership lessons.   Mentioned in This Episode: Americanforestmanagement.com Brandon on LinkedIn Band of Brothers: E Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne from Normandy to Hitler's Eagle's Nest by Stephen E. Ambrose