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Rebecca Taister is an award-winning writer covering women in politics and media, a best-selling author and one of Sophia's idols! Rebecca joins Sophia to discuss the shifting ideas of power distribution, the clash we are in the middle of now, what preceded the rise of Donald Trump, the preventable death of a pregnant teen in Texas because of the state's abortion ban, and the Republicans' plan to undermine workplace protections. Rebecca is the author of "Big Girls Don't Cry," "All the Single Ladies," and "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger." For more information on Rebecca and her work, visit rebeccatraister.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rebecca Traister, writer at New York Magazine and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon and Schuster, 2018), talks about her reporting on women in the Republican Party, and other national political news.

We hear a rundown of some new reporting on women affiliated with the GOP, from members of Congress, to candidates around the country. On Today's Show:Rebecca Traister, writer at New York Magazine and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon and Schuster, 2018), talks about her reporting on women in the Republican Party, and other national political news.

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Last week, Ohio voters approved Issue 1, a ballot measure to amend the state constitution to protect abortion access. The vote was the latest in a string of state-level victories for abortion rights supporters since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year. But in many states, women are now living with bans and restrictions that make abortions much harder to get since the Dobbs decision. We'll look at what the Ohio outcome could mean for the future of abortion rights around the country, and how the issue is playing out in the 2024 presidential election. Guests: Michele Goodwin, professor of constitutional law and global health policy, Georgetown Law. Her books include "Policing the Womb: Invisible Women and the Criminalization of Motherhood" Rebecca Traister, writer-at-large for New York magazine and The Cut. Her cover story “Abortion Wins Elections” appeared in the March 2023 edition of New York magazine. Her books include, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger

In this episode, we unleash our female anger with “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger” by Rebecca Traister. This book explores the transformative power of female anger and its ability to transcend into a political movement. Vanity Fair calls it “a hopeful, maddening compendium of righteous feminine anger, and the good it can do when wielded efficiently—and collectively.” We had the opportunity to record this episode in the Finger Lakes wine region (when we stayed at Glen Hollow) after having spent an afternoon in Seneca Falls, the birthplace of the women's rights movement in America.With this female-empowered book, we wanted to focus on a badass female winemaker in the Finger Lakes. We were lucky enough to get a tour and tasting with Hosmer Winery's Julia Hoyle (a POP first!). We chatted with her about her journey, the region, and more.

This week, another legal blow for former president Donald Trump after a judge ruled to dismiss Trump's counter defamation lawsuit against E Jean Carroll for statements she made about a ruling on civil case earlier this year. Back in May, a Manhattan federal jury found that former president Donald Trump sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in a luxury department store dressing room in the mid 1990s, and awarded her $5 million for defamation and battery. The jurors, however, rejected Carroll's claim that she was raped. This came at the end of a seven-day trial, during which Carroll testified against Trump's claims that she was lying, and that he had never met her. The day of the verdict, Carroll strolled out of the courtroom onto the New York City sidewalk, sunglass-clad and triumphant. Rebecca Traister is a writer-at-large for New York magazine, and author of “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger.” This week, she speaks with Brooke about the place that this nearly thirty-year-old case holds in the landscape of Me Too, the premature death bells of the movement, and just how long it takes for movements to fully permeate laws, practices, and attitudes. This is segment originally aired in our May 12, 2023 show, Her Day in Court.  

This week, another legal blow for former president Donald Trump after a judge ruled to dismiss Trump's counter defamation lawsuit against E Jean Carroll for statements she made about a ruling on civil case earlier this year. Back in May, a Manhattan federal jury found that former president Donald Trump sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in a luxury department store dressing room in the mid 1990s, and awarded her $5 million for defamation and battery. The jurors, however, rejected Carroll's claim that she was raped. This came at the end of a seven-day trial, during which Carroll testified against Trump's claims that she was lying, and that he had never met her. The day of the verdict, Carroll strolled out of the courtroom onto the New York City sidewalk, sunglass-clad and triumphant. Rebecca Traister is a writer-at-large for New York magazine, and author of “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger.” This week, she speaks with Brooke about the place that this nearly thirty-year-old case holds in the landscape of Me Too, the premature death bells of the movement, and just how long it takes for movements to fully permeate laws, practices, and attitudes. This is segment originally aired in our May 12, 2023 show, Her Day in Court.  

This week, E. Jean Carroll was awarded 5 million dollars in damages in a trial that found Donald J. Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation. Shortly after, Trump mocked Carroll in a town hall on CNN. On this week's On the Media, hear what Carroll's case, and its coverage, tells us about the progress of the Me Too Movement. Plus, how Big Tech has made the internet harder to use. 1. Our host Brooke Gladstone [@OTMBrooke] on what the CNN town hall actually revealed. Listen. 2. Rebecca Traister [@rtraister], writer-at-large for New York Magazine, and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, on what E. Jean Carroll's case can tell us about the #MeToo movement. Listen. 3. Cory Doctorow [@doctorow], journalist, activist, and the author of Red Team Blue, on the political attitudes and technical mechanisms that lead to the decline of platforms online. Listen.  

This week, E. Jean Carroll was awarded 5 million dollars in damages in a trial that found Donald J. Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation. Shortly after, Trump mocked Carroll in a town hall on CNN. On this week's On the Media, hear what Carroll's case, and its coverage, tells us about the progress of the Me Too Movement. Plus, how Big Tech has made the internet harder to use. 1. Our host Brooke Gladstone [@OTMBrooke] on what the CNN town hall actually revealed. Listen. 2. Rebecca Traister [@rtraister], writer-at-large for New York Magazine, and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, on what E. Jean Carroll's case can tell us about the #MeToo movement. Listen. 3. Cory Doctorow [@doctorow], journalist, activist, and the author of Red Team Blue, on the political attitudes and technical mechanisms that lead to the decline of platforms online. Listen.  

Rebecca Traister, writer-at-large for New York Magazine and the author of, most recently, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon & Schuster, 2018), talks about the latest on mifepristone and the federal courts, Sen. Feinstein's future and more.

Welcome back to Season Three of Best Friend Therapy!We are so delighted to be with you for another season of conversations and this week we're talking about something that gets a bad rap in our society and is often misunderstood – it's the feeling of anger and it's one of Emma's favourites.We talk about the difference between anger management and anger expression, understand why Elizabeth shut herself in a cupboard and gave herself a good talking to, and we explain why guilt and anger are so often muddled up.We take a magical mystery tour through female rage from Rosa Parks to Lorena Bobbit, stop off with Michael Douglas in Falling Down, and end up at the dog park with Emma and Betty (her golden retriever), to hopefully bring you a better understanding of what anger is, and what it isn't.---Elizabeth's understanding of anger was informed by:"Anne of Green Gables" by L. M. Montgomeryhttps://www.waterstones.com/book/anne-of-green-gables/l-m-montgomery/9780349009308and:"Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger" by Rebecca Traister https://www.waterstones.com/book/good-and-mad/rebecca-traister/9781501181818---Best Friend Therapy is hosted by Elizabeth Day and Emma Reed Turrell, produced by Chris Sharp. To contact us, email contact@bestfriendtherapy.co.uk---Social Media:Elizabeth Day @elizabdayEmma Reed Turrell @emmareedturrellBest Friend Therapy @best.friend.therapy

Rebecca Traister is a writer for New York and the author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger. Her latest article is "The Necessity of Hope." “A big motivation of this piece, which I think is framed in this there's still reason to hope is actually the inverse of that. Which is: Let us be crystal clear about what is happening, what is lost, what is violated. The cruelty, the horror, and the injustice, and that is it only moving toward worse right now. And to establish that to then say that it is the responsibility to really absorb that, and then figure out how to move forward.” Show notes: @rtraister rebeccatraister.com Traister on Longform Traister on Longform Podcast 5:00 "Roe's Final Hours in One of America's Largest Abortion Clinics" (Stephania Taladrid • New Yorker • Jun 2022) 10:00 "The Dissenters Say You're Not Hysterical" (Irin Carmon • New York • Jun 2022) 23:00 "The Immoderate Susan Collins" (New York • Feb 2020) 26:00 Traister's Salon archive 26:00 "Abortion's Deadly DIY Past Could Soon Become Its Future" (New York • Jan 2017) 27:00 "Let's Just Say It: Women Matter More Than Fetuses Do" (The New Republic • Nov 2014) 27:00 "The Institutionalist" (The Cut • Jun 2022) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Both the Democratic and Republican parties have been using abortion as a wedge issue to generate votes for decades, but with the Supreme Court's ruling to overturn Roe vs. Wade, many Democratic voters are questioning whether the party did enough to prevent the loss of the constitutional right to abortion. We speak with Rebecca Traister, writer-at-large for New York Magazine's The Cut and the author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger.  

Both the Democratic and Republican parties have been using abortion as a wedge issue to generate votes for decades, but with the Supreme Court's ruling to overturn Roe vs. Wade, many Democratic voters are questioning whether the party did enough to prevent the loss of the constitutional right to abortion. We speak with Rebecca Traister, writer-at-large for New York Magazine's The Cut and the author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger.  

Rebecca Traister, writer at New York Magazine and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon & Schuster, 2018), discusses how the current Supreme Court case is just the latest in a decades-long weakening of Roe v. Wade, with Democratic leadership partially to blame.

With the possibility that SCOTUS overturn Roe v. Wade, we discuss the Democrats approach to judicial appointments, and whether they could have fought harder to safeguard abortion rights. On Today's Show:Rebecca Traister, writer at New York Magazine and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon & Schuster, 2018), discusses how the current Supreme Court case is just the latest in a decades-long weakening of Roe v. Wade, with Democratic leadership partially to blame.

Heidi is currently the VP of Sales at VXI. She's also the Founder and CEO of GirlzWhoSell. Simply put, she rocks and we get real.  Together, we talk selling while woman. We talk Heidi's story and her mission to champion progress across tech sales floors.  We talk gender equity & pay gaps.   We talk bro culture, and golf courses, and strip clubs, oh my.   We talk mentorship, sponsorship, and women supporting women.   We talk mental health.  We talk sales leadership demographics.   We talk rejection and mindset.  We talk COVID and the disproportionate impact on women in the workforce/business owners. Especially women of color.  We talk intersectionality, race & gender.   We talk past horror stories of selling while female.   We talk women's tendency to over-compete with one another, and how we're stronger together. We talk pushing the envelope.   We talk microagressions and the problem that is male silence.  We talk allyship and men helping other men.    Really though, we talk human.  Interested in joining the conversation? Hit us up on the hotline at 646-470-0248.  Resources: https://www.saleshacker.com/mental-health-sales-advantage/ (Mental Health: The Greatest Competitive Advantage You'll Ever Know) https://www.amazon.com/Good-Mad-Revolutionary-Power-Womens/dp/1501181793 (Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger) by Rebecca Traister For more on Heidi Solomon-Orlick, check her out on https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidisolomon1 (LinkedIn) and athttps://girlzwhosell.com/ ( GirlzWhoSell. ) Truth, love, and joy, friends.  Happy selling! 

First Draft Episode #320: Sarah MacLean Sarah MacLean, New York Times bestselling author of romance novels, including Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake, A Rogue By Any Other Name, and many more, talks about Bombshell, the first book in her new Hell's Bells series. Sarah also co-hosts the Fated Mates romance podcast. Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode: The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne Anne Rice, author of Interview With the Vampire and The Vampire Lestat Sarah Rees Brennan, author of Unspoken, The Demon's Lexicon, and In Other Lands and more Carrie Ryan, author of The Forest of Hands and Teeth, Daughters of Deep Silence, and more Aprilynne Pike, author of Wings, Glitter, and more Kami Garcia and Margaret Stohl, co-authors of Beautiful Creatures Dr. Jennifer Lynn Barnes, professor studying fiction and the brain, and also author of The Inheritance Games, The Naturals, Little White Lies and more Nora Roberts, author of Visions in White, The Next Always, and Year One also publishes as J.D. Robb, author of the In Death series Bella Andre, author of The Look of Love, Game For Seduction, and more Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger by Rebecca Traister Sadie Doyle, author of Trainwreck: The Women We Love to Hate, Mock, and Fear . . . and Why Mona Altahawy, author of Seven Necessary Sins of Women and Girls Gangs of London by Ryan McDonald Alice Diamond and the Forty Elephants by Brian McDonald Peaky Blinders (TV show) Sophie Jordan, author of Firelight, Foreplay, and more Tessa Dare, author of The Duchess Deal, Romancing the Duke, and more Desmond Morris, author of The Naked Ape A Hunger Like No Other, first in the Immortals After Dark series by Kresley Cole Christina Lauren, author of The Unhoneymooners, The Soulmate Equation, and Beautiful Bastards

Rebecca Traister, writer-at-large for New York Magazine and the author of, most recently, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon & Schuster, 2018), talks about the toxic workplace that Gov. Cuomo allegedly fostered, and how that intersected with the Me Too movement and was part of what led to his resignation.

Gov. Cuomo took pains to explain in his resignation speech that he simply didn't know that his behavior was unacceptable. So how far has the #MeToo movement really come? On Today's Show:Rebecca Traister, writer-at-large for New York Magazine and the author of, most recently, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon & Schuster, 2018), talks about the toxic workplace that Gov. Cuomo allegedly fostered, and how that intersected with the Me Too movement and was part of what led to his resignation.

Last week, we aired Part 1 of Michael's conversation with author Rebecca Traister about President Biden's first six months in office. Afterwards, Mike and Rebecca ended up in an unplanned, revealing and thoughtful discussion about #MeToo, Harvey Weinstein and sexual harassment in progressive media. Traister has written forcefully on issues of gender, feminism, politics and culture. They discuss how abusers remain in power for so long, why the prison system and locking up cartoon villains will not solve the problem, and the importance of solidarity and unions to confront the entrenched power structure. Rumble Episode 203: Rebecca Traister, Part 1 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-203-rebecca-traister-part-1/id1490354763?i=1000530362951 The "This American Life" episode on Don Hazen: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/640/transcript Five Women Are Accusing A Top Left-Leaning Media Executive Of Sexually Harassing Them https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/coralewis/don-hazen Rebecca Traister: Inside Andrew Cuomo's Toxic Workplace https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-cuomo-misconduct-allegations.html Rebecca's Books: Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger https://bookshop.org/a/1381/9781501181818 All the Single Ladies: Unmarried Women and the Rise of an Independent Nation https://bookshop.org/a/1381/9781476716572 Big Girls Don't Cry: The Election That Changed Everything for American Women https://bookshop.org/a/1381/9781439150290 Music in the episode: "If I Ruled The World" - MILCK https://youtu.be/NhHKRvv4JfU 3 Special offers for Rumble listeners: 1) You can get 25% off of Liquid IV when you go to https://www.liquid-iv.com/ and use the code RUMBLE at checkout. 2) Go to https://www.expressvpn.com/rumble to get three extra months free of internet privacy. 3) Get 15% off your Raycon earbud order at BuyRaycon.com/rumble --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/rumble-with-michael-moore/message

In the first part of Michael's conversation with New York Magazine's Rebecca Traister, they discuss the surprising aspects of Biden's first six months in office, the promise of America's political winds blowing to the left and the peril of permanent minority rule in America. Next week, we will air Part Two of Michael's conversation with Rebecca: an unplanned and challenging discussion about #MeToo, Harvey Weinstein, sexual harassment in progressive media, and what we can do about it. Recent articles by Rebecca Traister: Biden's Big Left Gamble: The president is overseeing a sea change in the world of economic policy, and so much hangs in the balance. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/07/biden-big-left-gamble.html They've Been Calling for Bloodshed the Whole Time Some on the right have supported violence for years now; the party has built its power on them. https://www.thecut.com/2021/01/the-capitol-riots-happened-just-like-the-right-threatened.html The Only Strategy Left for Democrats After this week, the mandate is clear: Make people's lives better. And stop trying to placate Republicans. https://www.thecut.com/2021/01/the-only-strategy-left-for-democrats.html Rebecca's Books: Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger https://bookshop.org/a/1381/9781501181818 All the Single Ladies: Unmarried Women and the Rise of an Independent Nation https://bookshop.org/a/1381/9781476716572 Big Girls Don't Cry: The Election That Changed Everything for American Women https://bookshop.org/a/1381/9781439150290 Music in the episode: "Back On The Chain Gang" - The Pretenders https://youtu.be/cMOKamtpUA8 Underwriter: Start cancelling your unused subscriptions and save hundreds of dollars a year! https://www.truebill.com/Rumble --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/rumble-with-michael-moore/message

Join new host Yomi Adegoke as she explores the Bookshelfie titles which have inspired writer and podcaster Elizabeth Day. Elizabeth is an award-winning journalist, the author of six books, spanning fiction and non-fiction, and host of the critically acclaimed hit podcast - How To Fail - which explores how failure can ultimately lead to success. She’s also a judge for this year’s Women’s Prize. Elizabeth’s book choices are: ** The Ordinary Princess by M. M. Kaye** The Cazalet Chronicles by Elizabeth Jane Howard** The Weather in the Streets by Rosamond Lehman** Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger by Rebecca Traister** Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale HurstonEvery week, join journalist and author Yomi Agedoke, and inspirational guests, including Elizabeth Day, Sara Pascoe and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie as they celebrate the best books written by women. The Women’s Prize for Fiction is one of the most prestigious literary awards in the world, and has been running for over 25 years, and this series will offer unique access to the shortlisted authors and the 2021 Prize winner. This podcast is produced by Bird Lime Media. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Six months ago, Andrew Cuomo was on top of the world. He was touted as the anti-Donald Trump — the calm, fact-driven coronavirus leader the country needed. Now, amid allegations of hiding the true number of Covid-19 deaths in New York nursing homes and of workplace sexual harassment and abusive behavior, most of the state’s major Democratic politicians are calling for Cuomo’s resignation.Rebecca Traister is a writer at large at New York magazine and the author of “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.” Last week, Traister published an extraordinary piece on the allegations against Cuomo. For her, the Andrew Cuomo story is a lot bigger than just Andrew Cuomo; it’s about the nature of toxic workplaces and the desire — even among Democrats — for strongmen leaders. And more than that, it’s about what we’ve been taught leadership looks like, and how the aesthetic of the tough, domineering male leader covers up, or contributes to, poor leadership.So I wanted to bring Traister on the show to discuss the details of the Cuomo story and its broader implications. We discuss what Cuomo has actually been accused of (including Traister’s own in-depth reporting), why we often mistake bullying for leadership, what blind spots the Cuomo story reveals among liberals, the trade-offs between projecting an aesthetic of power and actually governing, why white male rage is so accepted and even admired, the parallels between Cuomo and Trump, how this story recasts reporting on Hillary Clinton and Amy Klobuchar, the double bind faced by female politicians, and much more.References: "Abuse and Power" by Rebecca Traister, New York magazine Recommendations: The House of Mirth by Edith Wharton A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith Another Brooklyn by Jacqueline WoodsonMy Ántonia by Willa Cather Then We Came to the End by Joshua Ferris All the King’s Men by Robert Penn Warren Unbought and Unbossed by Shirley Chisholm The Elephant and the Bad Baby by Elfrida Vipont The Church Mouse by Graham Oakley  Tar Beach by Faith Ringgold The Highway Rat by Julia Donaldson The Complete 8-Book Ramona Collection by Beverly Cleary When You Reach Me by Rebecca Stead The Watsons Go to Birmingham--1963 by Christopher Paul Curtis  Thoughts? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.“The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Roge Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld.

Author Rebecca Traister joins me to talk about her book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger. We talk about feminism, cancel-culture (and accountability), the Capitol raid, representation, patriarchy, stereotypes, and how women have been vital to social movement in the US throughout history (even though their stories are often overshadowed by men). We also discuss methods of disempowerment, specifically, how women have been strategically silenced and disempowered in Western Cultures by creating the constant appearance of advancement, while nothing really changes. 

Jordanna Kalman is a fine art photographer who lives and works in New York. Jordanna’s work explores loneliness, femininity and individuality, and the images are highly personal. In her series Little Romances, she rephotographs prints of earlier images of hers which had been stolen and misused. By considering the prints as objects and adding new elements, she creates a new narrative, examining the anxieties of being a woman and creating a form of protection for the image. In our conversation we discussed prints as still-life subjects, what anger can accomplish, and our mutual dislike of “mean” photography. Then in the second segment we discussed a recent Instagram dust-up between two photographers, and how it’s relevant to our larger society. (Conversation recorded October 21, 2020.) Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | RadioPublic | Stitcher | Spotify | TuneIn | RSS Support: Support our Patreon | Review on Apple Podcasts | Review on Podchaser Share: Tweet this episode | Share to Facebook Connect: Newsletter | Email | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube Show Notes: Jordanna Kalman Jordanna Kalman - Little Romances Purchase books and prints from Jordanna Kalman’s online shop 2018 Critical Mass Top 50 Speax - “Jordanna Kalman - Artist & Photographer” Vik Muniz Joseph Beuys Fotofilmic Laura Letinsky Keep the Channel Open - Episode 114: Jessica Eaton Bruce Gilden Martin Parr Rebecca Traister - Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger William Camargo John Divola William Camargo’s Instagram (@billythecamera) William Camargo’s IG post riffing on John Divola’s work John Divola - As Far As I Could Get Killing of Ahmaud Arbery PetaPixel - “Folded Map Project’s Tonika Johnson Confronts Alec Soth and the NY Times” Tonika Johnson - Folded Map Project The Phoblographer - “Martin Parr is Under Fire for a Photo Book Reprint He Edited in 2017” Keep the Channel Open - Episode 110: Maggie Tokuda-Hall Kazim Ali - The Voice of Sheila Chandra Transcript Episode Credits Editing/Mixing: Mike Sakasegawa Music: Podington Bear Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo

Today we are thrilled to welcome Courtney Wallace, also known as The Incessant Bookworm on her blog, Youtube, and Instagram account where she shares what she’s reading, tips for the reading life, and reading challenges. We’re chatting with Courtney about her back to school reading challenge, how reading challenges influence her reading life, AND we’re pairing our favorite fall activities with a bunch of book recommendations.    Courtney’s back to school reading challenge // Anne of Green Gables read-a-long // and read around the world challenge.   Connect with Courtney: @incessantbookworm On Youtube On her blog The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie  Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie Ulysses by James Joyce Belgravia by Julian Fellowes Waiting for a Scot Like You by Eva Leigh Olive Kitteridge by Elizabeth Strout  Olive, Again by Elizabeth Strout Evvie Drake Starts Over by Linda Holmes Leave the World Behind by Rumaan Alam A Brush with Death by Ali Carter  Harlem Shadows by Claude McKay  We’re Going to Need More Wine by Gabrielle Union While We Were Watching Downton Abbey by Wendy Wax  Mexican Gothic by Sylvia Moreno-Garcia  Jackaby by William Ritter  Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders Inferno by Dan Brown  The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin A Taste of Sage by Yaffa S. Santos  With the Fire on High by Elizabeth Acevedo  Like Water for Chocolate by Laura Esquivel  Transcendent Kingdom by Yaa Gyasi  October Sky by Homer Hickam  The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova  How Much of These Hills is Gold by C. Pam Zhang The Good Girl by Mary Kubica The River by Peter Heller   An Elderly Lady is Up To No Good by Helene Tursten  The City Baker's Guide to Country Living by Louise Miller Boyfriend Material by Alexis Hall  Red, White & Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston Rodham by Curtis Sittenfeld American Wife by Curtis Sittenfeld Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger by Rebecca Traister The Voting Booth by Brandy Colbert   Fall-themed ASMR Channels Autumn Cozy  Autumn Ambiance Playlist  Calmed By Nature  Cafe Ambiance   Fall Ambiance

In the AcaDames Season 4 Launch, Sarah and Whitney reflect on Sarah’s job transition, campus life during the pandemic, an academic Twitter scandal, and righteous anger. Join us as we welcome an exciting lineup for Season 4! Note: When this episode was recorded, Whitney’s employer, UNC at Chapel Hill, was on Day 2 of in-person undergraduate classes. Six days later, multiple #SARSCoV2 outbreaks in undergraduate housing led the NC Board of Trustees (BOT/BOG) to move UNC undergrad classes all online. Related readings and links: “Unhappy Associate Professors,” Inside Higher Ed article: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/06/04/associate-professors-less-satisfied-those-other-ranks-survey-finds Anger: Buddhist Wisdom for Cooling the Flames (book by Thích Nhất Hạnh): https://www.amazon.com/Anger-Cooling-Thich-Nhat-Hanh/dp/1573221872/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (book by Rebecca Traister): https://www.amazon.com/Good-Mad-Revolutionary-Power-Womens/dp/1501181793/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Julia Marcus and Jessica Gold: “Colleges Are Getting Ready to Blame Their Students” (article) https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/colleges-are-getting-ready-blame-their-students/614410/ Sarah Gollust’s Twitter thread for parents about the fall semester: https://twitter.com/sarahgollust/status/1292802739286794242 The Calm App: https://www.calm.com/ GirlTrek: https://www.girltrek.org/ “The Pandemic Work Diary of Netflix’s Queer Champion” (Fran Tirado article): https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/business/fran-tirado-netflix-lgbtq.html Sarah’s response to #medbikini inciting article: https://twitter.com/birkensarah/status/1286989751891918852 #MeTooSTEM founder and Sciencing_Bi fabricated Twitter account: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/08/twitter-account-embattled-metoostem-founder-suspended Report of Independent Investigation: Allegations of Sexual Misconduct by Martin A. Philbert: https://regents.umich.edu/files/meetings/01-01/Report_of_Independent_Investigation_WilmerHale.pdf A full transcript of the episode can be found here. Recorded: August 11, 2020 Twitter: https://twitter.com/AcaDamesPodcast E-mail: acadamespodcast@gmail.com Voicemail #: (919) 666-7301 (Voice memos can also be emailed if you would like!) Creative Director: Mara Buchbinder Music by: Grace Mesa — PremiumBeat.com Production, editing, and admin by Meryem Ok Artwork by Melissa Hudgens at Leafy Greens Designs

Broadcast originally aired Monday, July 20, 9:30 am, on WRCR 1700 and WRCR.comOur topic: Summer Reading: Woman Suffrage CentennialJoining Clare Sheridan were Anya Berg of the Palisades Free Library and Katie Karkheck of the Valley Cottage Library.The librarians shared their recommendations for books that celebrate the Suffrage Centennial. We will also opened up the phone lines for listeners' suggestions and questions.Anya Berg recommended:1. The Woman's Hour: The Great Fight to Win the Vote by Elaine Weiss2. Why They Marched: Untold Stories of the Women Who Fought for the Right to Vote by Susan Ware3. Women Will Vote: Winning Suffrage in New York State by Susan Goodier and Karen Pastorello4. Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger by Rebecca Traister5. Activism Into Art Into Activism Into Art: A Personal History of Feminist Artby Cristina Biaggi (founding member of www.SuffrageForward.org)There is also a forthcoming book : Vanguard: How Black Women Broke Barriers, Won the Vote, and Insisted on Equality for All by Martha S. Jones (publication date: September 2020).Katie Karkheck recommended:1. Suffrage: Women's Long Battle for the Vote by Ellen Carol DuBois2. Why The Marched Untold Stories of the Women Who Fought for the Right to Vote by Susan Ware3. The Scarlet Sisters: Sex Suffrage and Scandal in the Gilded Age by Myra MacPherson4. Amazons, Abolitionists, and Activist : A Graphic History of Women's Fight for Their Rights by Mikki Kendall and illustrated by A. D'Amico (a graphic history of the various struggles and fights for rights from ancient times to today, intended for teens)For kids: Miss Paul and the President: The Creative Campaign for Women's Right to Vote by Dean Robbins, illustrated by Nancy ZhangClare Sheridan recommended:• Shout: Poetry for Suffrage by Susanna Rich• Remembering the Ladies: From Patriots in Petticoats to Presidential Candidates (Telling Her Stories) by Carol Simon Levin – This is a coloring book – could be for kids or adults – perfect for the Pandemic!• The Woman's Hour: The Great Fight to Win the Vote Paperback by Elaine Weiss (Author)• Mr. President, How Long Must We Wait? Alice Paul, Woodrow Wilson, and the Fight for the Right to Vote Hardcover – March 5, 2019 by Tina Cassidy (Author)and Ladies Lib - How Rockland Women Got the Vote by Isabelle Savellwww.valleycottagelibrary.org/www.palisadeslibrary.org/***Crossroads of Rockland History, a program of the Historical Society of Rockland County, airs on the third Monday of each month at 9:30 am, right after the Steve and Jeff morning show, on WRCR radio 1700 AM and www.WRCR.com. Join host Clare Sheridan as we explore, celebrate, and learn about our local history, with different topics and guest speakers every month. During 2020, our focus is Women’s History in celebration of the Suffrage Centennial.The Historical Society of Rockland County is a nonprofit educational institution and principal repository for original documents and artifacts relating to Rockland County. Its headquarters are a four-acre site featuring a history museum and the 1832 Jacob Blauvelt House in New City, New York. www.RocklandHistory.org

Clare Wright, left, and Rebecca Traister, at the Athenaeum Theatre in Melbourne — Photo: Emily Harms ‘The stories aren't simple. They're nuanced. And it's our job to insist on that nuance – and not let everything get turned into a t-shirt.' Rebecca Traister Rebecca Traister is an American journalist, polemicist and New York Times-bestselling author who writes at the intersection of feminism, politics and culture. Her latest book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, investigates the potential and complexity of women's anger as a political and social tool – both historically, and in the reinvigorated contemporary women's movement in the West. How have women's expressions of emotion been framed to delegitimise or condemn them? How can conflict and tension within and between factions of the women's movement make the broader collective stronger? Traister tracks the transformative force of female fury (and its suppression) through abolition, suffrage, temperance; through the labour and civil rights movements, and from now into the future. Are our perspectives on women's anger changing? How can women use their dissatisfaction to progress their rights? In April of 2019, Traister joined Clare Wright in conversation at the Athenaeum Theatre.Support the Wheeler Centre: https://www.wheelercentre.com/support-us/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this week's episode of Inside the Hive, co-host Joe Hagan talks to Rebecca Traister, author of "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger," about the Joe Biden/Tara Reade imbroglio, analyzing the thorny implications for the former VP's female allies, the problem with the #believewomen movement, and how Joe Biden might have better handled the allegation that he sexually assaulted Reade 27 years ago. Whatever Biden's shortcomings, the feminist columnist for The Cut vows she'll "crawl over broken glass" to vote for him in November. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Biden has promised to tap a woman for his VP pick. But allegations against him by a former staffer are creating a difficult situation for those hoping to share the ticket. On Today's Show: Rebecca Traister, writer-at-large for New York Magazine and the author of, most recently, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon & Schuster, 2018), talks about Biden, his yet-to-be-selected VP candidate and the known unknowns of Tara Reade's claims.

When Senator Elizabeth Warren announced the end of her presidential campaign, she was asked about the role of sexism in the race. Warren didn’t venture an answer, promising she’d have more to say later. In the meantime, we have some thoughts.  Guest: Rebecca Traister, writer for New York Magazine and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Senator Elizabeth Warren announced the end of her presidential campaign, she was asked about the role of sexism in the race. Warren didn’t venture an answer, promising she’d have more to say later. In the meantime, we have some thoughts.  Guest: Rebecca Traister, writer for New York Magazine and author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How will women vote in 2020? What will happen with down-ballot elections? And what do Maine voters truly think of Senator Susan Collins? Rebecca Traister, who has written about women in politics at length, joined Errol ahead of Super Tuesday to try to answer those questions. She talks about the role of women’s rage in politics, warns about the media’s intense focus on the race for the White House and analyzes the different campaigns, including Elizabeth Warren’s. She also explores what we should learn from the 2018 midterm elections as we head deeper into the primary season. And she discusses her recent profile in New York Magazine of Maine Senator Susan Collins.   MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger   JOIN THE CONVERSATION Do you have any thoughts or questions for Errol? Weigh in on twitter with the hashtag #NY1YouDecide or give us a call at 212-379-3440 and leave a message.

We share what kind of sick people we are, our preferred supplies to get us through, and our most memorable bouts with illness. May we all have a healthy 2020.Life latelyAbby gives a sleep training update and Sarah is happy to have (finally) fixed her Kitchen Aid mixer.Reading latelyAbby read The Which Way Tree by Elizabeth Crook and Sarah listened to Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger by Rebecca Traister.Eating latelySarah made "no-peek chicken," the perfect rainy day meal.Abby has found the sugar cookie equivalent of our favorite chocolate chip cookie. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On this #SurvivorStories series episode, our guest is Aneri Shah, founder of the Matriarchy,an organization that envisions that all genders can come together to discuss gender-based violence, its causes and its impact, in order to effect positive policy change.  Aneri speaks with us today about growing up first generation American, gender roles, and how her identity as an Indian-American informed how she and her family and community responded to her own #MeToo moment. During our conversation, Aneri and I referenced the following resources and topics: The Indian-Canadian comedian, Russell Peters The concept of "filial piety" in Asian families The Netflix show, "Dating Around" The effects of Rohypnol or the "roofie" drug The Grey's Anatomy episode on the process of collecting a rape kit How Simone Biles responded to her trauma through sleep Rebecca Traister's book: "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger" --- Thanks for tuning in to the en(gender)ed podcast! Be sure to check out our en(gender)ed site and follow our blog on Medium. Consider donating because your support is what makes this work sustainable. Please also connect with us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Don't forget to subscribe to the show!

Tim Johnson recommends two books: "The Devil's Due" by Bonnie MacBird — a Sherlock Holmes Adventure — and "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger" by Rebecca Traister.

Tim Johnson recommends two books: "The Devil's Due" by Bonnie MacBird — a Sherlock Holmes Adventure — and "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger" by Rebecca Traister.

Tim Johnson recommends two books: "The Devil's Due" by Bonnie MacBird — a Sherlock Holmes Adventure — and "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger" by Rebecca Traister. The post Books to give with Tim Johnson appeared first on continuum | University of Minnesota Libraries.

Matt and Sam talk to Rebecca Traister of New York magazine about sexism and electoral politics. How has patriarchy conditioned the political careers of politicians like Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren? How does the right mobilize anti-feminism to win? And how do conservative women like Sarah Palin use traditional womanhood and femininity to their advantage? Listen to find out! Traister is the author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger.Further Reading:Rebecca Traister, "Elizabeth Warren's Classroom Strategy," The Cut, Aug 6, 2019Rebecca Traister, "Leader of the Persistence," New York Magazine, July 23, 2019Elaine Blaire, "The Power of Enraged Women," New York Times, Sept 27, 2018Liesl Schillinger "Book Review: Big Girls Don't Cry," New York Times, Sept 16, 2010

Hugh Taft-Morales, Leader, Baltimore Ethical Society and Ethical Humanist Society of Philadelphia. There’s a lot of anger in America these days, from the anger that fueled Trump’s election to the anger of the #MeToo movement to the anger of street protests. Where does this anger come from? Where will take us? What do you do with it? Reflecting on Rebecca Traister’s new book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger, Hugh Taft-Morales explores the history of anger and how it is manifesting in women, men, and himself. Music from Greater U Street Jazz Collective.

Air Date: 5/31/2019 Today we take a look at the renewed energy in the anti-choice movement in the wake of the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. We have entered a new phase, having transitioned from the "chipping away" phase to the "full frontal assault" phase. Be part of the show! Leave a message at 202-999-3991   Episode Sponsors:  Amazon USA| Amazon CA| Amazon UK| Clean Choice Energy Get AD FREE Shows & Bonus Content: Support our show on Patreon! SHOW NOTES Ch. 1: Oriaku Njoku & Jill Heaviside on Abortion Rights in Georgia and Beyond - CounterSpin - Air Date 5-16-19 Jill Heaviside is a lawyer and If/When/How HIV–Reproductive Justice Fellow with SisterLove, Inc. And Oriaku Njoku is co-founder and executive director of Access Reproductive Care—Southeast. They join us to talk about abortion rights in Georgia and beyond. Ch. 2: Don't Let Republicans Normalize ANY Abortion Bans - The Majority Report - Air Date 5-17-19 All abortions should be legal, full stop. Ch. 3: How Fury Can Fuel the Fight for Reproductive Rights - The Brian Lehrer Show - Air Date 5-19-19 Rebecca Traister, author of, most recently, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger (Simon & Schuster, 2018), talks about how angry women can channel their rage to fight back. Ch. 4: Myth-Busting the Anti-Choice ‘Born Alive’ Bills - Boom! Lawyered - Air Date 3-6-19 Anti-choice politicians are pushing a new legislative strategy to demonize their opponents and confuse the public: so-called Born Alive bills. Ch. 5: New Abortion Laws ‘Go Against Common Sense’ - The Real News - Air Date 5-18-19 Discussing why the calls to boycott anti-abortion states is not the right strategy in this particular case Ch. 6: The Corporate Sponsors of the War on Women - Thom Hartmann - Air Date 5-20-19 Like most Republican legislation, there is always a corporation behind it, and the draconian abortion bans passed by Georgia and Alabama are no different Ch. 7: What Life In Post-Roe America Will Be Like - The Majority Report with Sam Seder - Air Date 5-13-19 Robin Marty on her new book, "Handbook For Post-Roe America." Ch. 8: Defend & Strengthen the Future of Reproductive Justice Beyond Roe v. Wade - Best of the Left Activism Take action! Click the title and/or scroll down for quick links and resources from this segment. Ch. 9: State Abortion Bans And The Looming Challenge To Roe V. Wade - Diane Rehm On My Mind - Air Date 5-16-19 Alabama now has the most restrictive abortion law in the country. What the new law – and others like it around the country – mean for the future of abortion rights. VOICEMAILS Ch. 10: Framing the 2020 election - Conner from Worcester, MA Ch. 11: How to raise a good socialist child? - Alan from Connecticut FINAL COMMENTS Ch. 12: Final comments on accelerating the pain to speed the arrival of the backlash TAKE ACTION! *REMINDER: Abortion is still legal in all 50 states* Become an abortion clinic escort: Find a clinic near you via National Abortion Federation& Abortion Care Network, and ask what help they need. Support organizations helping people access reproductive care: National Org:  National Network of Abortion Funds Local/Regional Orgs: Excerpt from The Cut article "What You Can Do to Help Women in States With Extreme Abortion Bans": Access Reproductive Care - Southeast: ARC is a volunteer organization that helps families in 12 states across the southeast access reproductive care. National Network of Abortion Funds: NNAF is a network of more than 80 funds in at least 38 states that seeks to eliminate economic barriers for low-income individuals seeking an abortion. The Yellowhammer Fund: Based in Alabama, Yellowhammer not only provides funding for abortions at one of the city’s three clinics, but also helps with other barriers to access patients may face, such as travel or lodging. (Yellowhammer is part of NNAF.) Mississippi Reproductive Freedom Fund: Run entirely by volunteers, the Mississippi Reproductive Freedom Fund helps people access abortion, and provides both support and resources to parents. Women Have Options: This Ohio-based organization provides financial assistance and support to low-income patients seeking reproductive care, abortion included. National Asian Pacific American Women’s Forum: NAPAWF is a multi-issue community-organizing and policy-advocacy organization that fights for policy changes that would benefit women, transgender, and non-binary Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. Gateway Women’s Access Fund: Based in Missouri, Gateway provides both educational and financial support to people in the state who can’t afford the full cost of an abortion. Push politicians and candidates to support:  EACH Women Act Repeal of the Hyde Amendment  Read Sen. Warren's Multi-Point Plan to Protect Choice Talk to friends and family about this issue, share your story & check out the #YouKnowMehashtag. EDUCATE YOURSELF & SHARE What You Can Do to Help Women in States With Extreme Abortion Bans(The Cut) How to Help Protect Abortion Rights in Alabama and Georgia(The New York Times) The corporations backing Alabama's war on women (Popular Information) When life begins and ends(Washington Post) A woman signed Alabama’s abortion ban into law. We need to talk about that.(Think Progress) Written by BOTL Communications Director Amanda Hoffman  MUSIC(Blue Dot Sessions): Opening Theme: Loving Acoustic Instrumental by John Douglas Orr  Cicle Veroni - Cicle Kadde Gondola Blue - Towboat Waltz and Fury - Macrame Gusty Hollow - Migration Hickory Shed - Onesuch Village No Smoking - Sunday at Slims The Rampart - Castle Danger This fickle world - Theo Bard Voicemail Music: Low Key Lost Feeling Electro by Alex Stinnent Closing Music: Upbeat Laid Back Indie Rock by Alex Stinnent   Produced by Jay! Tomlinson Thanks for listening! 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Larry Wilmore is joined by writer-at-large for New York Magazine, Rebecca Traister, to talk about the recent spate of abortion bans (9:07), the history of the abortion-rights movement (25:34), and her recent book, ‘Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger’ (46:27). Host: Larry Wilmore Guest: Rebecca Traister Check out ‘Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger’ here.

The Breakfasters are back from Easter, and kicks off with a short and sweet week. Rebecca Traister, the author of book “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger” is in the studio to talk about her experience from being a feminist journalist in the United States. Food, alien or both? In food interlude we get a little more familiar with mushrooms as Michael Harden talks about the aromatic ingredient. The comedy festival is still a hot topic, and Geraldine talks about Celeb 5, possibly the biggest superstar of the festival this year.  “The War on the F*#king Election” is touring Australia, and writers and comedians Charles Firth and James Schloeffel talks to the Breakfasters about the challenges (or lack of) writing political comedy when the politicians are comedic gold just by being themselves.  

In the era of the #MeToo movement, Black Lives Matter and a torrent of books on the subject, it’s a time when women’s anger at the inequality built into our financial, economic and social systems is finally being heard. Or at least some women’s anger is. In this week’s episode, we’re talking with emotional labor expert and author Gemma Hartley, and comedian and author Sarah Cooper, about the moment women’s rage is having, the steps that most of us must still take to function in a male-oriented career world, and the tired old stereotype of the angry black woman.   Links from the show: CNBC story with “Tanja Hester and her husband” Gemma Hartley’s book, Fed Up Sarah Cooper’s book, How to Be Successful Without Hurting Men’s Feelings Rebecca Traister’s book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger Soraya Chemaly’s book, Rage Becomes Her Burn It Down: Writing About Women’s Anger, edited by Lilly Dancyger

In this two-part episode, a conversation between Kristine Haglund and Mormon Matters host Dan Wotherspoon, Kristine shares insights and distillations from various sources and her own thinking about "anger" and ways to understand and better utilize its energy, especially within Mormonism. In her presentation, she picks up the term, "Good and Mad" from Rebecca Traister's recent book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, and applies it as an aspirational ideal within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—Ways we might learn to be both angry (and harness its power) and good (operate within acceptable discourse and behavioral standards). Whereas there is no setting in today's very top-down hierarchal structure in which anger can be well-received, regardless of our sex, we can, however, learn how to effectively channel our strong senses of "This is not right" or "No God I can ever believe in would countenance this sort of behavior (or teaching)" into forms that can lead to interpersonal as well as organizational changes. This is a terrific listen containing many powerful insights. Part 1 offers a wide framing of the topic, and Part 2 introduces and discusses Kristine's ten different principles for helping us better comprehend our own and others' anger, and to then make sure its energies don't go to waste as easily as they often do in this day of social media and its unfortunate stock-in-trade: outrage, and then outrage about what's the proper amount of outrage, ad infinitum. Kristine originally presented some of the ideas within this episode at the Utah Valley University Mormon Studies Conference, "Women of Mormondom," held March 7–8, 2019. Audio/video of the conference's sessions is forthcoming very soon.

In this two-part episode, a conversation between Kristine Haglund and Mormon Matters host Dan Wotherspoon, Kristine shares insights and distillations from various sources and her own thinking about "anger" and ways to understand and better utilize its energy, especially within Mormonism. In her presentation, she picks up the term, "Good and Mad" from Rebecca Traister's recent book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, and applies it as an aspirational ideal within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—Ways we might learn to be both angry (and harness its power) and good (operate within acceptable discourse and behavioral standards). Whereas there is no setting in today's very top-down hierarchal structure in which anger can be well-received, regardless of our sex, we can, however, learn how to effectively channel our strong senses of "This is not right" or "No God I can ever believe in would countenance this sort of behavior (or teaching)" into forms that can lead to interpersonal as well as organizational changes. This is a terrific listen containing many powerful insights. Part 1 offers a wide framing of the topic, and Part 2 introduces and discusses Kristine's ten different principles for helping us better comprehend our own and others' anger, and to then make sure its energies don't go to waste as easily as they often do in this day of social media and its unfortunate stock-in-trade: outrage, and then outrage about what's the proper amount of outrage, ad infinitum. Kristine originally presented some of the ideas within this episode at the Utah Valley University Mormon Studies Conference, "Women of Mormondom," held March 7–8, 2019. Audio/video of the conference's sessions is forthcoming very soon.

Rebecca Traister discusses her new book “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.” Kavita Dogra, founder of We Talk Women, speaks about her involvement on the front lines of the women’s movement in Toronto. Srosh Hassan, a University of Alberta student interning at Aga Khan University in Nairobi, comments on the important role women play worldwide in bringing about social change. Participants at the “Walk in Her Shoes” rally in Ottawa share their views on why they march for equality and awareness of women’s issues.

Welcome to Heels of Justice; these are the stories of women lawyers who are trailblazers in their field and paved the way for the rest of us. Today, the Heels of Justice interview Dahlia Lithwick bio to come by the client.   Key Takeaways [:34] Katherine welcomes Dahlia Lithwick a writer and law journalist, to the Heels of Justice podcast. [1:24] Katherine asks Dahlia when, how and why she became interested in the law. [4:17] Did Dahlia end up following her interest in children’s advocacy policy through law school? And what happened after law school? [5:44] Dahlia shares that she quit law school after her first year and why she went back. [8:00] What does clerking “on and off” mean? [9:48] On the sometimes jargony nature of legal writing, and the necessary humility in writing about the law for lay audience. [15:12] “Read the briefs, translate the briefs, and write about what happened to the law.” There is no need for an ego. [15:45] Is there something about women that makes more inclined to egoless work? [21:19] The powerful effect of women role-modeling, and creating the ‘giants’ on whose shoulders future generations can stand. [23:31] Katherine asks what has surprised Dahlia about the Supreme Court, or rather what might surprise us? [26:09] On the real humans behind the memes and subordinating ego. [32:00] Dahlia’s thoughts on the inner strengths that bring women into law in the face of celebrity culture and anger. [34:50] The rewards of diligence, accuracy, and passionate commitment to truth. [37:10] Katherine asks how Dahlia reconciles the idea that women are currently being the RBG of tomorrow and the stereotypical narratives about women being too mean or too aggressive. [38:40] Is three the magic number? [41:30] Katherine asks Dahlia if there ever was a moment when she advocated for herself. [46:00] A moment of failure for Dahlia and the path she took to recover. [49:25] A guy would do it, and your value is not your job! [53:07] Katherine asks if Dahlia would have any advice for her law school self. [57:49] Katherine thanks Dahlia for participating on the Heels of Justice podcast, and she signs off until next time.   That’s it for this episode of Heels of Justice, if you like the stories we’re telling, please visit our website. You can join our mailing list, learn more about our guests and see what we have planned for the future.   You can also follow us on Twitter, on Instagram, and on Facebook.   Disclaimer: The opinions you have heard are ours or our guest’s alone. They’re not the opinions of our employers, or our clients, or our bosses, and not our husbands, kids or pets or anyone else’s.   Mentioned in this episode (chronological order) Slate Stanford Law School Michael Wald Children’s Defense Fund Procter Ralph Hug Jr. Nina Totenberg Joan Biscupik Jan Crawford Marcia Coyle Ruth Bader Ginsburg Stephen Breyer Sandra Day O'Connor Sonia Sotomayor Lindsey Graham Elena Kagan Patty Hearst syndrome John Roberts Ruth Bader Ginsburg movie Oprah Winfrey Michelle Obama Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, by Rebecca Traister Dr. Christine Blasey Hearing Brett Kavanaugh hearing Anita Hill Pamela Harris Amy Klobuchar Mazie Hirono Sanctuary city cases Travel Ban strike down Abortion Policy on teen migrants Chaucer Hillary Clinton Microsoft trial   More about the Heels of Justice, Sarita Venkat, and Katherine Minarik Heels of Justice on the Web Heels of Justice on Twitter Heels of Justice on Instagram Heels of Justice on Facebook   Sarita Venkat on LinkedIn Katherine Minarik on LinkedIn Katherine Minarik on Twitter Katherine Minarik at cleverbridge   Dahlia ’s personal stories (edited) “When I was 12 years old, my mother gave me a clothing allowance and said ‘this is the amount of money you’re allowed to spend on clothes and when it’s gone, it’s gone so be prudent,’ and I hectored her for the entire year, like relentlessly; morning, noon and night, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I just went at, her trying to re-litigate the amount.”   “The answer is to just have so many damn women at such high levels of achievement that you can’t say ooh, look at that weird girl anymore … It’s such a long haul answer to give you, and I think it’s going to require women also speaking out, writing the op-eds, pushing back and just being willing to say ‘not every time a woman speaks is she shrill, not every time a woman advocates for herself is she a bitch.’ Doing what I’ve sort of described as this massive team sport. Ruth Bader Ginsburg can be the coach, but we all have to be the players.”   More about Dahlia Lithwick Dahlia Lithwick on Slate More to come by clients

In converation with Rebecca Traister, author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger Examining the intersections of race, gender, and politics in a popular monthly Cosmo column, Brittney Cooper is also a professor of women's and gender studies and Africana studies at Rutgers University. Praised by Michael Eric Dyson as ''the boldest young feminist writing today,'' Cooper is the author of Beyond Respectability, a map of the development of female African American intellectuals. Her new book celebrates the power of anger, dispels stereotypes, and reminds women of the power they possess. Rebecca Traister is the author of All the Single Ladies, The New York Times bestselling book about the intersection of sex, economics, and emotions related to the growing number of single women in 21st-century America; and Big Girls Don't Cry, an investigation of the 2008 American presidential election's effects on women and cultural feminism. A writer-at-large for New York magazine, Traister has contributed to many other periodicals, including The Nation, Vogue and The Washington Post. (recorded 3/5/2019)

Autumn and Kendra talk with Soraya Chemaly about her new book Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger. A full version of the show notes for this episode can be found over on our website. Many thanks to our sponsor for this week’s episode, The Great Courses Plus! We’ve arranged a special, limited time offer for our listeners: an entire month of unlimited learning—for FREE! Sign up here for your free trial and get one month of access to The Great Courses Plus. Books MentionedRage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger by Soraya ChemalyEloquent Rage: A Black feminist Discovers Her Superpower by Brittney CooperGood and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger by Rebecca TraisterThe Power by Naomi AldermanFlorida by Lauren GroffBinti by Nnedi OkoraforCirce by Madeline MillerThe Secret History of Wonder Woman by Jill LeporeThe Incendiaries by R.O. Kwon CONTACT Questions? Comments? Email us hello@readingwomenpodcast.com. SOCIAL MEDIA Reading Women: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Website Music by Isaac Greene Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Our anger has all this information, it has all this expertise, it has all this experience and we should respect it in ourselves and in other women." - Soraya Chemaly     This episode is brought to you in collaboration with Fast Mary's.     Today's featured interview is with Soraya Chemaly. She is the author of Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger, named a Best Book of 2018 by NPR, Washington Post and others, including some of our favorites Autostraddle, Psychology Today, and Bitch magazine. This book is about the ways that the social construction of emotion, anger in particular, affect women’s personal, professional and political equality. Chemaly is a prolific writer whose work focuses on the role of gender and identity in culture, education and technology. She is also the director of the Women’s Media Center Speech Project, an initiative devoted to expanding women’s civic and political participation.     Connect with Soraya and learn more about her work on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.     Soraya's book recommendations: Eloquent Rage: A Black Feminist Discovers Her Superpower by Brittney Cooper Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger by Rebecca Traister The Power by Naomi Alderman     In this episode, I also chat with Kristen and Kerry, two of the organizers of 24in48, a 48 hour readathon happening January 26-27. Participants will have an opportunity to win a three month subscription Feminist Book Club box so sign up here if you're feeling lucky: https://24in48.com/ Or if you prefer a little more control in your life, use code PODCAST to get a discount on your February box at feministbookclub.com/subscribe. Connect with the #24in48 community on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.       About today's sponsor: Fast Mary’s Bloody Mary Enhancer is a naturally vegan, gluten-free, Bloody Mary seasoning concentrate.  Handcrafted and infused to perfection, Fast Mary's turns any ordinary Bloody Mary into the ultimate culinary concoction. Learn more at fastmarys.com     Website: feministbookclub.com Instagram: @feministbookclubbox Facebook: Feminist Book Club Twitter: @fmnstbookclub Email newsletter: http://eepurl.com/dvRgvD   - Logo and web design by Shatterboxx  Original music by @amiofficialmusic Transcript for this episode: bit.ly/FBCtranscript3   Get $5 off your Feminist Book Club Box with the code PODCAST at feministbookclub.com/subscribe.  

  H. Claire Brown: How an FDA Algorithm is Killing Bodegas (Ep. 169) The New Food Economy’s Claire Brown joined Joe Miller to discuss how an FDA algorithm is killing bodegas by flagging otherwise legal transactions as fraud. Bio H. Claire Brown (@hclaire_brown) is a staff writer for The New Food Economy focusing on food policy and the environment. Her reporting has won awards from the Newswomen’s Club of New York and the New York Press Club. She is based in Brooklyn. Resources New Food Economy How an Algorithm kicks small businesses out of the food stamp program on dubious fraud charges by Claire Brown Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger by Rebecca Traister News Roundup Federal officials worry about shutdown’s effect on cyber security Federal security officials are worried about the short and long-term harm to the nation’s cybersecurity during the shutdown. They’re worried about losing furloughed talent and about criminals and foreign actors taking advantage of the shutdown to launch cyberattacks. Illinois Congresswoman Robin Kelly issued a strong rebuke against Trump for the shutdown saying it’s immoral and unnecessary. She noted that when she served as the ranking member of the IT subcommittee in the last session of Congress, the subcommittee repeatedly discussed the federal government’s inability to attract top IT and tech talent. She said the shutdown makes federal IT jobs seem even less attractive than they were before. Motherboard paid $300 to a bounty hunter to access customer location info from carriers Remember in 2017 when the Republican-controlled Congress repealed the Obama-FCC’s privacy rules that would have required carriers to obtain opt-in consent from customers before sharing their data? Well, Motherboard’s Joseph Cox reported last week that he paid just 300 bucks to a bounty hunter to identify the location of a phone. This is exactly the kind of harm the privacy rules were designed to prevent. The Motherboard investigation found that all the bounty hunter had to do was purchase the location data that ultimately came from T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint and voilá – here’s your phone … or the phone of that person you’re stalking … So House Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Frank Pallone demanded an emergency briefing from FCC Chairman Ajit Pai … Pai declined, citing the shutdown --- claiming that the issue wasn’t a “threat to the safety of human life or property.” AG nominee Barr to recuse himself from AT&T/Time Warner merger appeal Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar announced last week that Trump’s attorney general nominee William Barr assured her in a private meeting that he would recuse himself from the AT&T/Time Warner Merger. The Justice Department is appealing a lower court’s decision to approve the $85 billion merger of the two companies. Barr’s Senate confirmation hearing takes place today, Tuesday, January 15. Google shareholder sues for $90 million Andy Rubin payout Google shareholder James Martin filed a lawsuit against the company last week for its $90 million payout to former executive Andy Rubin after he left the company amidst sexual harassment allegations. The complaint alleges a “multi-year scheme to cover up sexual harassment and discrimination at Alphabet” and claims the board, including Sergey Brin, Larry Page and Eric Schmidt, breached their fiduciary duties as board members and as executives who set the internal tone that enabled extramarital affairs at the company. Thune/Wicker switch roles on the Senate Commerce Committee South Dakota Republican John Thune has stepped down as Chair of the Senate Commerce Committee and now heads up the Communications Subcommittee. Mississippi Republican Roger Wicker now Chairs the full committee. Trump administration proposes to allow drones to fly at night The Federal Aviation Administration issued proposed rules Monday that would allow small commercial drones to fly over cities at night.  Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao says she’s keenly aware of the safety concerns.  

Gayle has updates for Nicole. She's joined Scribd, she's a veteran Spivey swapper and she's hit her reading goal for the year. Nicole discusses why she couldn't finish reading American Prison, and after discussing what they've been reading, they go on to talk about the best books they read in 2018. What We've Been Reading https://amzn.to/2CEnyVU ( Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger) by Rebecca Traister https://amzn.to/2RsUWHr ( American Prison: A Reporter's Undercover Journey into the Business of Imprisonment) by Shane Bauer https://amzn.to/2VgGzow ( Sliver of Light: Three American Imprisoned in Iran) by Shane Bauer https://amzn.to/2GUBcrM (Daisy Jones and The Six) by Taylor Jenkins Reid Ray & Joan: The Man who Made the McDonald's Fortune and the Woman who Gave it All Away​ by Lisa Napoli https://amzn.to/2CFjO6x (The Four​: The Hidden DNA of Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Google)​ by Scott Galloway https://amzn.to/2Roz2Vu (The Other Woman) by Sandie Jones https://amzn.to/2B2OEHg (The Last Mrs. Parrish)  by Liv Constantine   Our Best Books of the Year The Incendiaries by R.O. KwonThat Kind of Mother by Ruman AlaamAn American Marriage by Tayari Joneshttps://amzn.to/2GwB2Fp (A Cloud in the Shape of A Girl) by Jean ThompsonThe Honey Farm by Harriet Alida Lyehttps://amzn.to/2BoLpb6 (The Caregiver)

Authors Rebecca Traister ("Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger") and Michael Beschloss ("Presidents of War") join us from the Miami Book Fair. Enjoy! Buy "Presidents of War": https://amzn.to/2BrsvPK Buy "Good and Mad": https://amzn.to/2Ls7WaP Become a Patreon subscriber to gain access to exclusive bonus content: www.patreon.com/strangedays Leave a review if you like the show!

We talk with Rebecca Traister about her latest book Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. Rebecca Traister’s book All the Single Ladies won the 2016 Reading Women Award for nonfiction. Find the full version of the show notes for this episode on our website. Some links are affiliate links. Find more details here. Books Mentioned Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger by Rebecca TraisterRebecca Recommends Eloquent Rage: A Black feminist Discovers Her Superpower by Brittney Cooper Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger by Soraya Chemaly An American Marriage by Tayari Jones Author Bio REBECCA TRAISTER is writer at large for New York magazine and a contributing editor at Elle. A National Magazine Award finalist, she has written about women in politics, media, and entertainment from a feminist perspective for The New Republic and Salon and has also contributed to The Nation, The New York Observer, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Glamour and Marie Claire. She is the author of All the Single Ladies and the award-winning Big Girls Don’t Cry. She lives in New York with her family. Website | Twitter | Buy the Book Be sure to subscribe to our newsletter to be sure you don’t miss the latest news, reviews, and furchild photos. Support us on Patreon and get insider goodies! CONTACT Questions? Comments? Email us hello@readingwomenpodcast.com. SOCIAL MEDIA Reading WomenTwitter | Facebook | Instagram | Website Music “Reading Women” Composed and Recorded by Isaac and Sarah Greene Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In conversation with Tamala Edwards, anchor, 6ABC Action News morning edition Rebecca Traister is the author of All the Single Ladies, The New York Times bestselling book about the intersection of sex, economics, and emotions related to the growing number of single women in 21st-century America; and Big Girls Don't Cry, an investigation of the 2008 American presidential election's effects on women and cultural feminism. A contributing editor at Elle and writer-at-large for New York magazine, Traister has contributed to many other periodicals, including The Nation, Vogue, The Washington Post, and Glamour. Good and Mad is an urgent and timely exploration of the power of women's anger to affect contemporary political change and its historical precedents in changing policies and minds. Watch the video here. (recorded 10/4/2018)

The feminist journalist and the psychotherapist. “It’s partners and lovers and spouses…fathers and brothers and sons and friends.” The difference between apology and forgiveness. “Men are used to trying to fix things.” Trauma, and also healing. What we are naming with the impetus of #MeToo is, at best, an opening to a long-term cultural reckoning to grow up humanity; to make our society more whole. We explore this with psychotherapist Avi Klein, who works with men and couples, and feminist journalist Rebecca Traister. In a room full of journalists, at the invitation of the Solutions Journalism Network, we explored how to build the spaces, the imaginative muscle, and the pragmatic forms to support healing for women and men, now and in time. Rebecca Traister is a writer for “New York Magazine” and a contributing editor at “Elle.” She is the author of “Big Girls Don’t Cry,” “All the Single Ladies,” and “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.” Avi Klein is a psychotherapist and licensed clinical social worker. He practices in Manhattan. His 2018 “New York Times” Op-Ed piece is titled “What Men Say About #MeToo in Therapy.” Find the transcript for this show at onbeing.org.

The feminist journalist and the psychotherapist. “It’s partners and lovers and spouses…fathers and brothers and sons and friends.” The difference between apology and forgiveness. “Men are used to trying to fix things.” Trauma, and also healing. What we are naming with the impetus of #MeToo is, at best, an opening to a long-term cultural reckoning to grow up humanity; to make our society more whole. We explore this with psychotherapist Avi Klein, who works with men and couples, and feminist journalist Rebecca Traister. In a room full of journalists, at the invitation of the Solutions Journalism Network, we explored how to build the spaces, the imaginative muscle, and the pragmatic forms to support healing for women and men, now and in time. Rebecca Traister is a writer for “New York Magazine” and a contributing editor at “Elle.” She is the author of “Big Girls Don’t Cry,” “All the Single Ladies,” and “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.” Avi Klein is a psychotherapist and licensed clinical social worker. He practices in Manhattan. His 2018 “New York Times” Op-Ed piece is titled “What Men Say About #MeToo in Therapy.” This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Rebecca Traister and Avi Klein — #MeToo Through a Solutions Lens.” Find more at onbeing.org.

If you have doing a TEDx talk on your list, you’ll need a TED-worthy idea, an “idea worth spreading.” How do you know if you have a *really good* idea for a speech, one that’s going to make an impact, whether it’s for TEDx or a keynote? In this episode, my guest Lori DiGuardi, a TEDx and professional speaker, and I discuss: What makes a great talk How an “idea” is different from a “topic” How Lori came up with her TEDx idea Why people are chosen and aren’t chosen as TEDx speakers Questions to ask yourself as you work through your idea How to handle nerves when giving an important talk, including what happened to Lori during dress rehearsal (you’ve already heard my story of TEDx nerves in episode 92) And more.   About My Guest: Lori DiGuardi is a visionary leader. She is a TEDx and professional speaker, and a TEDx and certified life coach. Courageous women hire Lori to reconnect and give voice to their inner-truth. The foundation of her work is based on a life of poverty and abuse as a child and young woman, to becoming an international empowerment leader for over 22 years. Her audiences have included business professionals, educators, students, entrepreneurs, dignitaries and royalty. She was awarded an MS in Leadership, a Black Belt in Karate, and Service Above Self for her humanitarian work in Uganda. She is author of Anger 101: The Healthy Approach to Being a Bitch. The Speaking Your Brand podcast is hosted by Carol Cox. At Speaking Your Brand, we help women entrepreneurs and professionals create their signature talks and gain more visibility to achieve their goals. Our mission is to get more women in positions of influence and power: on stages, in businesses, on boards, in the media, in politics, and in our communities. Check out our coaching programs and workshops at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com. Links: Show notes at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/95 Speaking Your Brand Facebook page and Facebook Live show Check out Lori’s website: https://www.loridiguardi.com/ Free PDF guide: https://www.loridiguardi.com/tedx/ Watch Lori’s TEDx talk: https://youtu.be/2rhYlDKO_2U Subscribe to Lori’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/LeadWithPersonalPower/ Marianne Williamson’s speech at the Washington Cathedral: https://youtu.be/e7ZV0REbpkQ Book recommendation: “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger” by Rebecca Traister Join the free Speaking Your Brand community at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/join/ or text the word SPEAKING to 444-999. Sign up for a Strategy Session at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/strategy. Ready to create your TEDx talk or signature talk? Email me at carol@speakingyourbrand.com or click here to schedule a call. Say hi to me on Instagram and Twitter: @CarolMorganCox. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Google Podcasts and leave a review! Related Podcast Episodes: Episode 24: What It Takes to Do a TEDx Talk with Tammy Lally Episode 56: How to Become a TEDx Speaker with Tamsen Webster Episode 91: Visibility Works: From Local Speaking to TED.com to a Book with Tammy Lally Episode 92: Deconstructing My TEDx Talk - Why We’re Uncomfortable with Women in Power

When my guest Molly McPherson introduced herself in the Speaking Your Brand Facebook group and said one of her topics is helping women speak powerfully, I knew I had to have her on the podcast. Molly McPherson is a PR professional and speaker, with a focus on communicating in the digital age and crisis communication, helping her clients protect their reputations with proactive plans and messaging. In this episode, Molly and I talk about specific strategies we can use as women to come across more powerfully, whether it’s in person or in how we write. We also talk about the Kavanaugh hearings and the contrast between how Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and Brett Kavanaugh showed up and what that indicates about the emotional range women in public are expected and permitted to have vs. what men can do and what that means going forward. About My Guest: Molly Baker McPherson is an accredited PR professional with 20 years of experience in corporate and cooperative crisis communications and social media. She served as Director of Communications for the Cruise Line International Association, helped launch FEMA’s first social media program and worked in post-Hurricane Katrina’s FEMA Office of External Affairs. Molly speaks regularly about best practices for communicating in the digital age and crisis communication, helping clients protect their reputations with proactive plans and messaging. The Speaking Your Brand podcast is hosted by Carol Cox. At Speaking Your Brand, we help women entrepreneurs and professionals create their signature talks and gain more visibility to achieve their goals. Our mission is to get more women in positions of influence and power: on stages, in businesses, on boards, in the media, in politics, and in our communities. Check out our coaching programs and workshops at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com. Links: Show notes at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/94 Connect with Molly on her website at https://mollymcpherson.com/. Check out Molly’s free PDF at https://www.mollymcpherson.com/speakingyourbrand. Listen to Molly’s new podcast “Communicate with Confidence”.   Book recommendation: “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger” by Rebecca Traister Emma Gonzalez speech at March for Our Lives rally Join the free Speaking Your Brand community at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/join/ or text the word SPEAKING to 444-999.   Sign up for a Strategy Session at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/strategy. Ready to create your signature talk and framework? Email me at carol@speakingyourbrand.com or click here to schedule a call. Say hi to me on Instagram and Twitter: @CarolMorganCox. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Google Podcasts and leave a review! Related Podcast Episodes: Episode 20: Perfectionism, the Good Girl, and the Gremlins that Hold Us Back with Regena Garrepy Episode 40: Why Women Need to Speak Up and Roar with Sophia Eng Episode 46: We All Need a Wingwoman with Mia Scharphie Episode 92: Deconstructing My TEDx Talk - Why We’re Uncomfortable with Women in Power

Rebecca Traister, author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, joins Senior Books Editor Cristina Arreola to explore the ways women's anger is actively discouraged and muffled in 2018 and how we can embrace its transformative potential to foster real change in our country, both in tomorrow's midterm elections and beyond. Follow Rebecca on Twitter @rtraister and grab Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger at your local bookstore or on Amazon. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sam Harris speaks with Rebecca Traister about her new book Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. Rebecca Traister is writer at large for New York magazine and a contributing editor at Elle. A National Magazine Award finalist, she has written about women in politics, media, and entertainment from a feminist perspective for The New Republic and Salon and has also contributed to The Nation, The New York Observer, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Glamour and Marie Claire. She is the author of All the Single Ladies and the award-winning Big Girls Don’t Cry. Website: http://www.rebeccatraister.com/ Twitter: @rtraister

In this episode of the Making Sense podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Rebecca Traister about her new book "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger." SUBSCRIBE to continue listening and gain access to all content on samharris.org/subscribe.

Robin on Saudi women fugitives, Trump's "executive time," microplastics, supremacists at large, and November 7. Guest: Rebecca Traister on her new best-seller, "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger." Plus, "A Thought Experiment."

Le texte de la semaine avec Aurélie Lanctôt et Vanessa Destiné. Bio pop avec Simon Boulerice; Amy Winehouse No Limits. Le club polar avec Isabelle Richer et Norbert Spehner. On passe au salon avec Yves Gingras au Salon du livre de Rimouski. Fanny Britt et Pascale Navarro ont lu pour nous Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger, de Rebecca Traister. Pourquoi j’écris avec Sergio Kokis

New York Magazine writer Rebecca Traister talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger." In this episode: (01:37) Traister's background; (07:34) Her goal when she became a feminist journalist; (11:54) The state of women's anger post-2016; (17:26) Why is anger having a moment now?; (20:20) "I had no idea how common this was!"; (26:36) Rosa Parks, Abigail Adams and other angry women; (31:18) Anger, power and violence in the 2010s; (36:19) One year after #MeToo, will people keep going?; (42:14) Women who are angry in defense of the patriarchy; (46:36) "I don't see any of this ending in our lifetimes."; (49:45) What has to change right now?; (54:38) "I have to be hopeful" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With midterms around the corner, we want to bring you even more from the experts. Our bonus episodes are lightly edited interviews from thought leaders and people who are working tirelessly to get women elected in November. This week, Host Jenny Kaplan speaks with author and journalist Rebecca Traister about today's feminism, women in the midterms, and her book, "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger." Special thanks to Moran Audio for the tunes! www.wondermedianetwork.com

Rebecca Traister is not throwing chairs, but she's definitely mad and hyper aware of just how much is wrong with this country. Carmen digs in with Rebecca on her book, “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger”; the generational fights between women for power, why swearing feels so (f***ing) good, and the value of white women listening. Carmen gets in her favorite —joking— threat that gets her daughter to sweat. Rate and review this podcast on iTunes! for more wit & wisdom go to thecarmenshow.net   Sign up for the newsletter and follow on social media: Twitter: @carmensense Instagram: @its_the_carmen_show 

This week Kate and Doree sit down with Rebecca Traister, author of the new book Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. They talk about living in a world that doesn’t respect women’s anger as serious and worthwhile, the ways in which we repress and express feelings, how to direct and use rage, the #MeToo Movement, and the importance of receiving and listening to the anger of other women.Plus: Doree’s makes peace with her pregnancy sickness, Kate purges her products and streamlines her skincare routine (again), and they discuss what it would feel like to “spiral positively.” (Imagine it!)Follow us on Instagram: @Forever35podcast, @katespencer, @doree, Twitter: @forever35pod, and in our Facebook group (password is "serums"). All products mentioned on the show can be found on our website, Forever35podcast.com. To leave us a voicemail, call 781-591-0390, or you can email us at forever35podcast@gmail.com.This episode is sponsored by:Robinhood - Sign up at forever35.robinhood.com and get a free stock.Four Sigmatic – For 15% off, visit FourSigmatic.com/Forever35 and use the promo code Forever35.Warby Parker - Head to warbyparker.com/forever35 to order your free Home Try-On today.Hum Nutrition – For 20% off, go to HumNutrition.com and use code Forever35 at checkout.HairStory - Get 10% off Hairstory’s New Wash, by visiting HAIRSTORY.com/forever35 and using promo code Forever35.Theme music by Riot. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

There’s a reason that women are angry. Since the founding of this country, we have been faced with men in power who are set on shutting us down, and shutting us out. Revolutionary fury isn’t just for the founding fathers. And ladies, even though we’ve been stewing in our ever-growing anger for the past 242 years, we have just begun to fight. Listen to my conversation with Rebecca Traister, author of the New York Times Bestseller, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. This conversation was recorded live in Berkeley, CA on October 10th, 2018 as part of Women Lit, a program of the Bay Area Book Festival. Want to show your support for Inflection Point? Here are few ways: Financial: Go to inflectionpointradio.org/contribute. Emotional: Come on over to The Inflection Point Society, our Facebook group of everyday activists who seek to make extraordinary change through small, daily actions. Sensational: Subscribe to “Inflection Point” to get more stories of how women rise up right in your feed on Apple Podcasts, RadioPublic, Stitcher and NPROne. And give us a 5 star review!

Episode 104: I am devoting the entire podcast this week to Rebecca Traister’s new book, “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger”. I rarely do books on this show because, once you start, where do you draw the line on what I *have* to read? But, this is an important topic—I had the chance to record Rebecca’s talk at one of the nation’s absolute best bookstores, Powell’s Books in Portland, Oregon. In keeping with the topic, our Robber Baron of the week is the CEO of NBCUniversal for allowing a pervasive culture of sexual harassment at NBC News to thrive.

After the spectacle of Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings, the already deep political divide in the country seems to have calcified. To try to understand where this rancorous political moment came from — and where it might be going — Katie and Brian talk with two experts. First, they welcome back to the show Rebecca Traister, author of the new book Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. Rebecca explains why she’s so devastated about the new Supreme Court justice, and she reckons with the fact that women have been on both sides of this bitter political debate. Then they turn to Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law expert and Harvard Law professor, for a legal perspective. What will happen to the Supreme Court as an institution, and what does that mean for the American people? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

It's our favourite time of year: The OED have released their new admissions. Are you feeling bongga? Or are you - whisper it - just a nothingburger? We also discuss the Banksy that shredded itself; Brett Kavanaugh's ascendancy into The Supreme Court; Taylor Swift's Instagram politics; and that time Trump walked around with a wad of bog roll stuck to his shoe. It's the little things. This episode concerns two men accused of domestic abuse - comedian Seann Walsh, and Johnny Depp who currently covers British GQ. Were Strictly Come Dancing wrong not to drop Walsh? Were GQ wrong to profile Depp? We deep-dive into both and wonder: what's the protocol, when it comes to the accused? E-mail: thehighlowshow@gmail.comTweet us: @thehighlowshow Stacey Dooley Investigates: Fashion's Dirty Secrets, on the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bn6034Can I re-think my love affair with clothes? by Jess Cartner-Morley for The Guardian magazine https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/oct/06/sustainable-fashion-impact-on-planet-jess-cartner-morleySorry For Your Loss, on Facebook Watch A Woman's Anger, an episode with Rebecca Traister for Call Your Girlfriend podcast https://www.callyourgirlfriend.com/a-womans-anger-with-rebecca-traister/Good and Mad, by Rebecca Traister https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Rebecca-Traister/Good-and-Mad--The-Revolutionary-Power-of-Womens-Anger/22853939Notes On A Nervous Planet, by Matt Haig https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Matt-Haig/Notes-on-a-Nervous-Planet/21949786‘The Outlaw' - Johnny Depp will not be buried, by Jonathan Heaf for British GQ https://t.co/0d7xQvg0yBWanderlust on The BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bjckgvNot Working by Lisa Owens Radio Adaptation: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07blldrChristopher Bland Award for Writing: https://rsliterature.org/award/rsl-christopher-bland-prize/Daisy Buchanan on Rebecca Humphries' statement for The Pool: https://www.the-pool.com/news-views/opinion/2018/41/Strictly-Come-Dancing-Seann-Walsh-ex-girlfriend-statement See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Rebecca Traister sees in the Kavanaugh hearings a typical case where women’s anger was marginalized or made to sound hysterical or infantile or threatening—but men’s anger was taken to be valid and righteous. But that is changing, she argues: women’s anger increasingly is “in the beating heart of many political and social movements.” Her new book is Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger. Also: David Cay Johnston talks about the “Mountain of Tax Cheating” by Donald Trump, as exposed in the massive New York Times report on where Trump’s money came from, and the violations of tax laws in his past. David is a Pulitzer-prize winning reporter who has written for the New York Times and the L.A. Times and is now editor of DCReport.org. Plus: what the Democrats can do about newly-confirmed Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh when they win the House in November and take control of the Judiciary Committee in January: John Nichols talks about investigations that could lead to the filing of articles of impeachment.

Landing a year into the #MeToo movement, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger is timely. Written by the feminist journalist Rebecca Traister, the book combines an analysis of the ways in which women’s anger is discouraged, with a historical look at moments when that anger has had political implications. Traister spoke with David Remnick of The New Yorker Radio Hour.

In this episode, Niki, Neil, and Natalia discuss the history of binge drinking, why McCarthyism is back in the news, and the political power of women’s rage. Support Past Present on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pastpresentpodcast Here are some links and references mentioned during this week’s show:  Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination hearing has brought attention to the prevalence of binge drinking among young people. Natalia referenced Matt Damon’s Saturday Night Live portrayal of Brett Kavanaugh, and cited Sarah Hepola’s memoir of binge drinking, Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget. McCarthyism is back in the news as Mitch McConnell has accused Democrats of such tactics. Neil mentioned a Jonah Goldberg essay in the National Review that argued Joe McCarthy had been right. A series of books out this fall look at women’s rage: Rebecca Traister’s Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger; Soraya Chemaly’s Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger; and, Brittney Cooper’s Eloquent Rage: A Black Feminist Discovers Her Superpower. Natalia added both Phyllis Schlafly’s Power of the Positive Woman and Audre Lorde’s “The Uses of Anger” as two other very different works on the politics of women’s rage.   In our regular closing feature, What’s Making History: Natalia talked about her upcoming involvement in the event, “Yeah She Did: Witches Get Stuff Done” taking place in New York City on October 24. Neil commented on Joe Pinsker’s Atlantic article, “Why Some Parents Turn Boys’ Names Into Girls’ Names.” Niki discussed the expiration of the Violence Against Women Act.

From #MeToo to Brett Kavanaugh, we have a lot to be mad about. Rebecca Traister is back to discuss her new book exploring the social and historical power of women's anger. When women get angry, movements form and revolutions spark. See: Rosa Parks, Florynce Kennedy, Maxine Waters, and many more sheroes. We discuss rage-crying, the specific history of white women's tears, the lasting impact of Professor Anita Hill, and who has room to express their rage today. No wonder we're told to keep our anger to ourselves. Reading List: Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger by Rebecca Traister is on sale now. For smart thoughts and links on Kavanaugh, we turn to Rebecca Traister, Irin Carmon, Jenée Desmond Harris, Laura McGann, Brittany Packnett Go deeper with books by and about these incredible angry feminists: Flo Kennedy: her public access show archive Vivian Gornick: all of her books Rosa Parks: At the Dark End of the Street Anita Hill: Strange Justice Rose Schneiderman: her 1911 speech at the Metropolitan Opera House after the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire

Why did Christine Blasey Ford have to smile and politely ask for breaks while Brett Kavanaugh could rage at the cameras and dismiss the hearings as a farce? The answer is in Rebecca Traister’s essential, perfectly timed new book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger. It’s a book, Traister writes, about how anger works for men in ways it doesn’t for women. I happened to read it the weekend before the Kavanaugh/Ford hearings, and it was eerily prescient: The book was essential to understanding not only what I was seeing at the hearings but, as importantly, what I wasn’t seeing. My conversation with Traister is about those hearings, but about much more too: When is anger constructive and important? Can it tie us together, rather than just pulling us apart? How is the #MeToo movement navigating the fact that sometimes the people it’s angry about are also the people it loves — that our bad guys are also our good guys, as Traister puts it? And what does it mean to see each other in our full humanity, including in our angry humanity?   Recommended books and essays: Intercourse by Andrea Dworkin The Uses of Anger by Audre Lorde The Power by Naomi Alderman  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New York Magazine writer — and former Salon journalist — Rebecca Traister makes the case that women have used their rage to change the course of history in her new book, “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger,” available now. Women have been told that their rage is unattractive, unhealthy, overblown, and shrill, but, Traister argues, those claims are bad faith efforts to scare women into silence. She had the privilege to marinate in women’s anger for the four months it took to write the book, she says, and she slept well and felt healthy — perhaps the healthiest she’s ever been. * * * About “Salon Talks” Hosted by Salon journalists, “Salon Talks” episodes offer a fresh take on the long-form interview format, and a much-needed break from the partisan political talking heads that have come to dominate the genre. “Salon Talks” is a destination for information through conversation. Viewers can expect discussions with A-list actors, artists, authors, thinkers, and newsmakers as we explore the full range of the human condition. The show streams live on Facebook and Twitter and each episode is published in full on Salon.com. Watch SalonTV, streaming live daily on Salon.com, and YouTube. Subscribe to SalonTV on YouTube HERE: https://www.youtube.com/salontv Like Salon on Facebook HERE: https://www.facebook.com/salon Follow Salon on Twitter HERE: https://twitter.com/salon Follow Salon on Instagram HERE: https://www.instagram.com/salonofficial

Rebecca Traister is the author of "Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger"

On The Gist, Brett Kavanaugh’s high school and college buddies had some weird nicknames, and it’s not helping his case. Rebecca Traister is angry, and she knows other women are too. Events from Trump’s election through the #MeToo movement inspired her new book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. In the Spiel, Mike read the New York Times’ expose on how Donald Trump got rich—so you don’t have to. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On The Gist, Brett Kavanaugh’s high school and college buddies had some weird nicknames, and it’s not helping his case. Rebecca Traister is angry, and she knows other women are too. Events from Trump’s election through the #MeToo movement inspired her new book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. In the Spiel, Mike read the New York Times’ expose on how Donald Trump got rich—so you don’t have to. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do you share with the world—and what do you hold back? How do you talk about family secrets or childhood trauma with strangers? And what happens when you bring more of your most personal experiences to your work? This week, we go deep on the power of getting personal—and the choices we have to make along the way. Before we start, Sara and Katel break some bad news: Jenn’s not here today, and it’s looking like she won’t be able to join us for the rest of the season. We’re sending some big hugs her way, but we have so much to talk about right now, we’re gonna keep on going. Our guest today is the incredibly kind, talented, and just plain fucking rad writer and editor Nicole Chung. She’s the author of the new memoir, All You Can Ever Know—which is on sale T O D A Y (ugh just buy it already). It chronicles her story of transracial adoption, growing up in a white family in small-town Oregon, and finding her birth family while starting to raise her own children. Reading it made us laugh and cry and fall even more in love with Nicole. In addition to being an author, Nicole is also the editor-in-chief of Catapult, a literary magazine, and the former managing editor of The Toast, everyone’s favorite weird-funny-feminist site. We had so much to talk with her about. Follow Nicole : Twitter | Insta > It was difficult to start sharing such personal stories about my family and about adoption and about racism that I’d experienced. And it’s not necessarily that I needed someone externally to validate them or to say, “this is legitimate, this really happened, this is important,” but I think just a little human kindness and, like, honestly went a very, very long way. The Toast was a fantastic community… Every time I wrote something there—I mean, both the goofy stuff like “If John Cho Were Your Boyfriend” and the more serious pieces on race or adoption or family—the response was overwhelmingly positive and supportive, and it was just really a privilege and a honor to get to edit and publish and write for that community at The Toast. I think it did make me braver. > —Nicole Chung, author, All You Can Ever Know Links from the interview Nicole’s longread about writing while grieving The long history of Oregon’s racist exclusion laws Love for Nicole’s editor, Julie Buntin at Catapult Nicole’s writing at The Toast, including If John Cho Were Your Boyfriend All You Can Ever Know, on sale now Also in this episode Chatting with Nicole got us thinking a lot about what it means to share your story with the world—in your writing, in a talk, or, say…on a podcast. So we dive into some of our own stories, and the choices we’ve made to tell—or not tell—them in our work. > You spend a long time purposefully not talking about it and reminding yourself to push it down, push it down, push it down that when it all comes back up and you’re purposefully sharing it, that feels weird. > —Sara We touch on: Our most recent newsletter, where Katel talks about being sexually harassed by a boss. The conflict between wanting to speak your truth, but finding it exhausting. As Emma Gray writes, “I am so tired of women having to mine their pain to convince men of their humanity.” Sara telling hundreds of strangers that she was sexually abused—in the middle of a design conference. Lisa Maria Martin’s great post on keeping politics out of your talk. Plus, did you know you can listen to books? Katel discovers the joy of audiobooks with Anne Helen Petersen’s Too Fat, Too Slutty, Too Loud: The Rise and Reign of the Unruly Woman. Meanwhile, Sara shares what she’s planning to read in her slippers this fall: Rebecca Traister’s new book, Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger, also out today! Dope Queen Phoebe Robinson’s new essay collection, Everything’s Trash But It’s OK, coming out later this month. Michelle Obama’s memoir, Becoming, due out in November. Sponsors This episode of NYG is brought to you by: Shopify, a leading global commerce platform that’s building a world-class team to define the future of entrepreneurship. Visit shopify.com/careers for more. Harvest, makers of awesome software to help you track your time, manage your projects, and get paid. Try it free, then use code NOYOUGO to get 50% off your first paid month. Transcript [Ad spot] Sara Wachter-Boettcher NYG is sponsored by Harvest, the tool I use to track time, manage projects and send invoices. You can even integrate your Harvest account with accounting software like Xero or QuickBooks. I’ve got to get that set up! Try Harvest for free at getharvest.com and if you like it half as much as I do, then use code NOYOUGO when you upgrade. That will get you 50% off your first paid month. That’s getharvest.com, code NOYOUGO. [intro music plays for twelve seconds] Katel LeDû Welcome to NYG, I’m Katel LeDû. SWB I’m Sara Wachter-Boettcher, and you probably noticed that Jenn’s not here today. And unfortunately it looks like she’s probably not going to join us for the rest of the season. She’s taking some time off from the podcast—as you know, she’s got a lot going on. But there’s just so much we still want to be talking about this fall. There’s political stuff—there’s the midterm elections, all the bullshit happening in the Supreme Court—and there’s also work stuff. Like me and Katel, we have started research for a little side hustle that we are hyped to start talking about with all of you. KL Plus I feel like we’re kind of getting good at this whole podcast thing. And we have so many rad people we still want to interview, so we’re going to keep going. Starting with today’s guest, Nicole Chung. She’s the author of the new memoir out now: _All You Can Ever Know_—about being adopted into a white family, raised in rural Oregon, and then deciding to find her birth family as an adult. We tried to keep cool, but we were total fan girls. SWB Talking to Nicole about writing a memoir just got me thinking a lot about my own writing. Especially—how I write about, and when I write about, personal stories. And I’ve done a little bit of that and I know Katel, you have too. In our last newsletter, you wrote about being sexually harassed by your boss and you told this story that really stuck with me where you just talked about him coming into your office and telling you how sexy it was that you spoke French and trying to get you to say something in French to him, which is all super gross and creepy. But I’m really curious—it was powerful for me to hear the specifics of what had happened and to sort of be able to see myself in that place with you and really feel for you there. And I’m wondering what it was like for you to write about it in that specific of a way? KL Gosh, I—it was definitely hard and also great I think, in a way. I remember writing the first draft and it was like three pages long because I—all of a sudden I just was remembering it and I hadn’t thought about that whole experience in a while. And all of a sudden I just was word vomiting out every, single detail and every aspect. And then—you know—I had to go through and kind of—I did a few second and third drafts thinking about what exactly I wanted to share and how I wanted to tell that story and—you know—make sure I was still kind of protecting myself. [2:44] SWB That’s something that’s hard to sort out—right? KL Yeah. SWB Like how much do you want to talk about your history and when and why you’re doing it. I think about this when it comes to bringing up my history with sexual abuse, which is something I’ve done a lot. I’ve mentioned it in one of my books and I’ve mentioned it in a lot of my talks on stage at conferences and I’ve talked about it on Twitter. But it’s interesting—you know—for a long time, I never really talked about the details. In fact, I remember the first time I brought it up, I was giving a talk and it was relevant to the topic I was talking about. I was talking about sort of being asked about that later in a form, but I acknowledged being sexually abused in this sort of very evasive way or sort of blink and you miss it sort of way, it was very easy to not have heard that that’s what I was doing if you weren’t paying attention so much to the talk. And that felt really hard for me at first, but it was almost like once I’d done it, I wanted to keep doing it. And sort of like half step at a time, talk about it in more specific detail or talk about it with a little bit more sort of ownership of it and not sort of making it be something that I am vaguely alluding to, but just saying it as it is. And so I feel like half step at a time, half step at a time, up to now—you know—recently I posted this Twitter thread about sort of like how we want to let men who’ve harassed ourselves or abused people sort of like come back into the fold. And I sort of talked about my experience and I talked about it more specifically than I had before. And still not that specifically, honestly, where—you know—it was a teenage neighbor boy who had sexually abused me for a long time when I was a really little kid and I’m thinking more and more that I want to tell that story in a deeper way and with that kind of detail that allows you to kind of—you know—understand what it was like, and also understand sort of the aftermath of that and kind of let go of some of the sort of long-standing shame that built up around it that I know I don’t deserve to have, but—you spend a long time purposefully not talking about it and reminding yourself to push it down, push it down, push it down that when it all comes back up and you’re purposefully sharing it, that feels weird. [4:59] KL Yeah, it totally does. And I think just talking about that whole idea of shame—you know—I think with your experience and as I wrote in the newsletter with mine—you know—this isn’t—this isn’t a new story, but it’s also when you think about the fact that as part of those stories and experiences, we weren’t believed or we were doubted that the thing that happened to us even happened to us. That makes it so much fucking harder and it’s like—I don’t know—I think that perpetuates the feeling of shame, it makes us feel like we can’t go into detail and that feels—that feels really terrible. I was sharing with you earlier that someone wrote to me after the newsletter went out and the first thing they said was just “I am so sorry that happened to you.” And that made me so relieved and feel very emotional because I think that that should be the absolute first thing that we start saying in this situation. Not—you know—surprise at like “oh my gosh, really?” It’s like “yeah, no, I’m so sorry, now let’s talk about it.” SWB You know, I don’t know that I’ve talked about this on the show before, but for about three years when I was in college I worked at a rape crisis center and I specifically worked in their education program, which meant I primarily talked to kids—middle schoolers was the number one audience we were able to get the okay from schools to go in and talk—to talk to them about sexual abuse and to talk to them about both child sexual abuse and things like consent. That’s a whole other show topic that we’ll get into at some point— KL [laughing] Yes. SWB —because actually I can’t believe we’ve never talked about this before. KL Yeah. SWB But one of the things that we learned very early on in the process of being trained to do this kind of work was to say literally that—right? “I’m sorry that happened to you.” There’s something powerful about it because it’s like there’s no question about whether it happened to you—right? And there’s no surprise, it’s more like there’s a tacit acknowledge that just exists that it happened. KL Yes. SWB And that is something that people need to hear because they’ve often heard so many messages from the people who have abused them or from culture at large that it doesn’t happen or it’s something to be shameful about. And to just be like “no, this happened and we can take that as a foundation that it happened and then talk about how we feel about it and what we’re going to do about it.” The other kinds of things we learned very early were conversations about saying very explicitly like “I believe you.” People are so afraid they’re not going to be believed, they’ve been told they’re not going to be believed, and then also “it’s not your fault.” Because that’s another one that often times abusers will tell people that it’s their fault—something they did—or other people will tell them that or that’s where the shame kicks in. And just you have to do a lot of work to counteract those messages. KL Yeah, to me when I hear that, it just boils my blood because it’s never a person’s fault when they’re harassed. Nothing you do ever warrants being harassed or abused, like that’s just—you can say that without having gender or anything in the mix. It’s like—we can all agree on that. [laughs] SWB Yeah—as we’re talking about all of this, it’s interesting. We started out this podcast saying this is really about work and about—you know—ambition and careers and sort of what drives us and it’s interesting because people have questioned me before about why I would bring up things like sexual abuse in a professional setting or why I want to talk about this stuff when I’m also wanting to talk about my career. But for me, the more we talk about this, the more clear it is that I cannot actually separate those. I can’t separate out the professional I am now from the little kid who experienced abuse, or from the college student whose first experience with public speaking was going into those middle schools to talk to kids. Those are all me and all of that experience directly informs the work that I do and what happened to you that you talked about on the newsletter—being sexually harassed by your boss happened to you at work. It’s directly tied to your career. And so I think it’s so valuable for us to kind of dig deeper on this stuff and think about the way that that does shape and drive the people that we are at work. KL Yes. I can’t separate the things that impact me at work from the work I do and I don’t want to. You know, I—when people talk about the idea of quote, unquote keeping politics out of work or anything we do, it’s like that question doesn’t even make sense to me. And it shouldn’t—you know—everything is political. SWB Yeah—our friend, Lisa Maria Martin—shoutout to Lisa Maria—she wrote this post a while back after a conference organizer had told speakers not to be political in their talks where she was basically like “look, that’s impossible.” Because you’re asking for this sort of false neutrality like, as you said, there is no neutral—because by defining what is and is not acceptable to discuss on stage, what’s political, what’s not political, what’s too political, you are making choices. So, she’s basically saying the conference organizer is making choices and those choices come down to politics themselves. “You are always excluding something,” she says, “or more likely, someone.” And—this is one of my favorite quotes—“for too many people in the world, their entire existence has been coded by society as too political.” And we are too political because we exist. Because we were harassed or abused, because we have periods, as we talked about a couple of episodes ago—right? We’re too political just being here and so if somebody tells us to not be political, then what they’re really saying to me is “don’t be.” [10:40] KL Yeah, completely. I am not interested in that. You know, the other thing that I think about when we’re talking about this, is I was just on a podcast where I talked about work and our podcast and [laughs] my therapist being on our show and we just—you know—dug into a lot of stuff. Plus I’m writing more in our newsletters, which I love, and that is really cathartic to talk and write about that stuff, but it’s also resurfacing trauma. And I mean I’ve talked about this with my therapist—you know—after writing some of the letters I’ve written for the newsletter, I’ve [laughs] gone into therapy and just been like [sighs] “oh my gosh, that was big” and she kind of looks at me and is like “yeah, that is big. You’re reliving it—you’re reprocessing it.” SWB Yeah and I think it’s really crucial to acknowledge that. That it is work to—to reprocess all this stuff and that that can be exhausting. So, for example, after—you know—[coughs] that guy that we have to call our president tweeted basically that if—if Kavanaugh had actually—had actually really assaulted Christine Blasey Ford, then why didn’t she report it at the time? So, women started posting all over Twitter—you know—all of the reasons that they hadn’t reported things that had happened to them. And there was this huge movement and then I saw a bunch of tweets talking about how tiring this was. So, there’s this one, for example, from this woman Emma Grey where she said—you know—“I’m so tired of women having to mine their pain to convince men of their humanity.” [KL sighs loudly] And that one really stuck with me like yeah, we shouldn’t have to mine our pain to convince other people that we exist and that we deserve to be treated better than this. KL Ugh, gosh yeah that—[laughs] that is so fucking true. And there’s no perfect recipe for this. I think that’s definitely true from what we’re talking about here and deciding how much time and emotional work you want to spend on, it is definitely part of the equation, but I’m choosing to share because I hope someone hears it and at the very least just is—knows that someone else has been through something that they’re going through. But we shouldn’t have to feel like we have to expose every little thing just to be believed. And I think we’re seeing way more women sharing things about themselves and it’s so inspiring, but we have to remember that that comes at a cost. SWB Absolutely. Like for—for me, I generally do want to share. Like I said, as I’ve shared more details about the things that have happened to me, it’s made me feel good and wanting to share even more. So, it’s something that I want to do, but I just—I guess I just want it to be acknowledged as work—right? It is labor. I’m choosing to employ a tool—that tool is my personal experience—and I’m doing it because I have a goal to help others and I have a goal of affecting change, but it is work and I want people to value that work and to understand that there is—you know—exhaustion that can come out of that work. And—you know—that’s actually something I really loved about talking with Nicole because it really feels like she shares so much of herself in her work and brings so much of her authenticity in. But I also noticed in our interview that she was really thoughtful about it. She’d really thought a lot about what she wanted to put on the table and what she wanted to keep to herself and so I loved her book, but I also loved the way that it got me thinking more about my own choices and thinking about how and if and when I share my personal history with the world. KL Yeah, she really got me thinking about how I process things and how writing can help you do that, but it can also distract you from it—you know—it can distract you from processing things. Plus Nicole’s just so open and giving, it was so amazing talking with her. [music fades in, plays alone for five seconds, and fades out] [Ad spot] SWB Time to take a quick break to talk about one of our favorite topics—careers! This week we’re bringing you a job search tip from Julia Hurrelmann, a recruiting researcher at Shopify. She’s here to give us her advice for writing a cover letter that gets noticed. What have you got, Julia? Julia Hurrelmann Thanks. Since I see so many applications, I wanted to give you my top tip for creating an awesome cover letter. Have a friend or even a neighbor review the letter, obviously to check for spelling and grammar. But also ask them to make sure your motivations are evident and most importantly that you haven’t minimized your experience or skills. We can be our own worst critics. Remember to tell your story and make it crystal clear why you felt compelled to apply. [15:17] SWB Thanks, Julia! Those are some great tips wherever you’re applying, especially if it’s one of the dozens of open roles at Shopify. See what’s new there, from marketing to mobile development in offices around the world. Visit shopify.com/careers to learn more. [music fades in, plays alone for five seconds, and fades out] SWB Today’s guest is Nicole Chung, author of the new memoir All You Can Ever Know, which is on sale right now. It chronicles her story of transracial adoption, growing up in a white family in small town Oregon and finding her birth family while starting to raise her own children. Nicole is also the editor in chief of Catapult, a literary magazine, and the former managing editor of The Toast. We have a lot to talk about. Nicole, welcome to No, You Go. Nicole Chung Thank you so much, Sara. Thank you, Katel. SWB It’s so great to have you here and first up, we’d definitely like to have you tell our listeners a little bit about your book and also really about your story. So, you were born in Seattle severely prematurely and you were then adopted into this family in Oregon. Can you tell us a little bit about that and about what you learned about your birth family while you were growing up? NC So, I actually didn’t know hardly anything about my birth family growing up, which was extremely common for adoptions of the time actually. Nowadays, a lot of domestic sort of infant adoptions are more open, but back when I was adopted, sort of the default was that it would be closed and there’d be no contact between the birth and the adoptive family. So everything I knew about them was sort of guesswork or it came secondhand through the adoption lawyer or through maybe the judge who finalized the adoption to my adoptive parents and then to me. My adoptive parents never met my birth parents, growing up—you know—I didn’t know their names, so what I was told about them was basically this sort of skeleton story, like a hard working immigrant story about how they came here from Korea, didn’t have much money. When I was born very prematurely they felt they didn’t have the resources to take care of me. One of the many effects of my early birth was that doctors thought I’d have a lot of health problems that I wound up not actually having. So—you know—they were letting my birth parents know kind of these different kind of worst case scenarios, I guess, because they were trying to really prepare them for what it could be like to raise me if I had all of these various problems and health challenges. And they really felt it was beyond them. So, this is the story that I heard growing up. It was not necessarily untrue for what it was, but [laughing] there were a lot of holes—right? Because nothing is really that straightforward or simple. So, when I set out to find them when I was an adult, one of the biggest reasons for searching was I was pregnant myself. I was pregnant with my first child and I just remember sitting there at my first prenatal appointment being asked all of these questions about my medical history and my birth and my birth mother’s pregnancy and why she gave birth so early and I had no answers to these questions—you know—I had no idea if this was going to happen to me, if I—you know—was maybe going to have a higher risk pregnancy or birth too. So, certainly one of the more pressing reasons to look when I did—apart from a lifetime of curiosity—was this really practical matter of “I’m in this exact position, I’m in the position she was in and I don’t feel prepared for what’s about to happen.” SWB One of the things that I really loved in the book was your experience—after you found them—getting quite close to your biological sister, Cindy. And something that—that really struck me was the way you wrote about that relationship. It was really moving to hear about both the connection that you have, but also, honestly, the anxiety that you felt as you were getting to know her. Sort of wondering if you were being too much, like too ready to be this super close sister to her and not being sure that she had the same sort of expectations or desires around the relationship. And I’m curious—how did it feel for you to lay out that relationship, to really lay it bare for your readers? NC It was honestly a gift. One of the best things I think that’s come out of this book is the chance to talk even more with my sister about it. Of course, the story of how we reconnected and how we grew close, we’ve kind of gone over and over again. It’s like our origin story, [laughs] we really like to sort of talk about it still, but—you know—as many times as we had been over it in the years since it happened, there were definitely some things that I wanted to follow up on, some things I wanted to check with her. Just more questions I had about her life and about her feelings, especially when she first started to learn about me and when we started to talk to one another long distance, especially because I was going to be writing it down for posterity and for—for wider audience, I wanted to make sure I had my facts straight. So it was just a great opportunity to go over all of that again and I did kind of just learn more about her—her life and how she thinks and what she was feeling about our reunion as it was happening. You know, just the other day we were talking and it was clear—you know—she said she felt really honored by the book, which is dedicated to her and to our kids, and I mean that just meant so much to me. I used to joke that if Cindy liked the book, I didn’t care if anybody else liked it [laughs] because her—how she felt about it was so important—you know—and I just feel really lucky both to have her in my life, and the fact that she really let me—not just let me, but encouraged me to write our story and has been so supportive of it and feels honored by it. That just means everything to me and it was a real privilege to tell not just my story, but her story too. [20:50] SWB Yeah, that’s so powerful to hear about because I think how—you know—how often do people get to have those kinds of almost incredibly vulnerable and honest and reflective conversations with their siblings. I mean, I guess all of us could, but we probably don’t [laughs] make the time for that that often and to really hear if the way that we remember things happening or what we understand to be true is also true for them and to kind of—you know—actually get on the same page. I love that and it makes me want to ask my brother some deep questions, but I don’t really have a reason to. [KL and NC laugh] NC Well, good luck with that! Yeah, it was—it was interesting too because I think both Cindy and when we—when we met face to face for the first time—you know—there was all this pressure. I remember our husbands would look at me and then look at her and then look back at me and I could just see them trying to catalogue the ways they thought we were similar and the ways they thought we were different. And I remember thinking, “oh what if she doesn’t like me? And what does that mean if your own sister doesn’t like you?” [laughs] And I’m an adult. It’s kind of late to change, I can’t make myself into this version of myself who would be less—just like not too much for her. [laughs] It’s—it was sort of very much a “well, this is who I am at this point” and she had been getting along okay without me is the thing. She really had. She had a full, happy life and I wasn’t sure if she would really need me in her life the way I felt I really wanted and needed her in my life. But as it turned out, she was feeling exactly the same way about me so everything [laughs]—everything worked out great. But I do remember thinking, “am I asking too much of this person?” Yes, we’re sisters, but we’re also kind of strangers and—you know—there’s no particular reason for her to feel this connection or want to let me in. So the fact that she did was just a real unexpected gift. SWB Yeah, so and I think what I’m also really interested in that you touched on a little bit there is that the process of writing a memoir that is so—you know—entangled with other people’s lives means getting—you know—getting into conversations with them about what happened then and how you write about it and also kind of dealing with potential fall out with them if the way the memoir comes out isn’t exactly how they would have liked it to come out. And I’d love to talk about that a little bit more because I was thinking about that a lot as I was reading about your childhood and—you know—writing about the parents who raised you. So—you know—you wrote in an essay a while back that you pictured your mom telling you that you had no right to do this, no right to turn them into characters. And then you said that she didn’t end up saying that, that she basically accepted that this was your story to tell and that your—your father did as well. And you wrote that you felt seen in that whole exchange with her and—and I’m wondering how important was that to you? And what was it like to hear that from her? NC Oh it was very important to me to be able to share the book with my adoptive parents and have them understand why I wrote it and not hate it. [laughs] I don’t know, sometimes I have—I feel like I set my expectations low so I won’t be disappointed, so—I mean—I wasn’t necessarily expecting them to love it or give it to all their friends, but I wanted them to feel generally okay with what I had shared and how I had shared it. Which isn’t to say—you know—I asked for permission to share certain things, it was more like—you know—the very first draft I had that I felt was okay and good enough to show to people, I showed to everyone. You know, I sent it to my sister and my birth father and I sent it to my adoptive parents. I didn’t really want them to be surprised later on and I wanted to have time—on the chance I did get something very wrong—I wanted them to have time to correct me if I really needed to make some changes to facts. So, my adoptive parents [laughs] took a while to read it. I think after like four or six weeks or something, I hadn’t heard anything and finally I was like “so, you know, I know that you’re really busy, but”—this is what I actually said—I said “it’s not like War and Peace, so like” [KL & SWB laugh] “like—like how’s it going with the book—you know? I’m here to talk about anything you want. I would love to know what you think.” There was no reason why—of course I had talked myself into thinking like in my anxiety silence meant that they hated it—but in fact, they were just extremely busy. [laughs] And they were—they were going slowly because they were reading it together, chapter by chapter. You know, my mom would read a chapter one evening and my dad would read the next chapter the next evening, so that’s why it was going slowly. And they were both so positive about it and really supportive and—you know—I think one thing I wanted to get really clear in the book—and this was not about placating anybody or pretty up my story in some ways—like I think I’m pretty honest about places where I wish things had been different, but—you know—one thing I think it was—it was always going to be important to get through was just how loved I felt growing up. I could not have had parents who loved me more and I kind of just wanted that to be clear because I think—I mean, not just because it’s the truth and not just because I love them—but because I think you have to understand our bond and how much they cared about me and saw me as theirs to understand why it was so hard for me to search. Like why—why it took me so long to get to that point, despite being really curious for so long. It was just so difficult for me to imagine having other parents or other family besides the one I had and I was really worried about what they would think and how they would feel if I searched. So—you know—I think my parents were really happy that that came through. They both really liked this chapter where I spent a lot of time sort of telling their story, like how they—I did write them as characters, but I wrote their story—how they met and got married really young and moved out west and wanted so badly to have a family—you know—it just kept not happening for them. And I think you have to understand that too—have to understand the stakes for them to see why my adoption felt like—not just like wish fulfillment for them, but like destiny or divine intervention almost. They—they really built it up in their minds because it was the culmination of what they had wanted for so many years. And again, without understanding that—you know—there’s no understanding kind of the pressure I felt and the decision to search and how—how long it took me to get there. But I loved—I loved writing that chapter about them. That is still one of my favorites in the whole book and I—my father passed away in January and I think that chapter is the hardest for me to read now, but I still really love to revisit it, I just—it was actually really, really fun to get to write that about my parents and to get to write about my childhood and how much they loved me. I think we were all doing the best we could—you know—and I think that does come through in the story. [27:35] SWB Yeah, I think I hear that as well and I’m—I’m so sorry for the loss of your father. I’m glad that he got to at least read that chapter. I know that he didn’t get to finish the whole draft, right? NC That’s right, I think he passed away pretty suddenly when they were about halfway through it. So, my mother’s read the entire book a couple of times, but my dad didn’t get to finish it unfortunately. He did—you know, because of how the book is laid out—he had read most of the parts that he was in. The second half of the book is—is much more focused on search and reunion. SWB I’m glad that they could feel the love coming from what you were writing. I think as a reader, I could definitely feel that and see the nuance that you were writing these people with. I think that that’s—you know—that’s something that I found really powerful because, of course, the story isn’t simple. And like you said—right—it sounds a little bit simpler on paper, but in reality it’s complicated and one of the things that certainly complicated it and that you—you wrote about pretty extensively was, of course, race. So, you were a child of Korean parents and then raised by a white family in a small Oregon town. I am also from Oregon… it’s not a super diverse place [laughs nervously] for a number of reasons, one of them is a history of racist exclusion laws that if folks haven’t heard about, they might want to look up. I didn’t learn about them until I was an adult. NC Yeah same, I learned in college. SWB Yeah I mean it’s—you know—I do remember when I—when I moved to Oregon, I was actually eight years old from San Jose and I remember thinking, as I looked around my new school, “where are all the Mexican kids?” [NC laughs] I just didn’t quite get it at first like, “this seems weird, this seems so different” and then over time it just became really normalized because, of course, I’m white and so once I was there for a while, I stopped thinking about it and that was fairly easy to do. Now, that wasn’t quite as easy for you to do because you weren’t white and because you were always the one who was different and I’d love to talk about that a little bit. You—you wrote in the book that you would go ages without seeing anyone who looked like you and that you would hear racist comments at school starting at a really young age. I’m really curious—as you were reflecting on your childhood and the place that you were from, did that make you sort of change the way you—you think about where you’re from or sort of process that history differently? [30:01] NC Well, I think I had already started—maybe in my early twenties, maybe even in college—to think harder about what it was like for me growing up in a—in a very white pocket of Oregon. And it wasn’t even just that—you know—my town was predominantly white. It was that I went to a parochial school when I was in elementary school, so it was much smaller even than the public schools would have been. And I think less diverse. It wasn’t—not to say that I would have gone to school with tons of kids of color—you know—in a public school, but—I mean—at this little Catholic school I went to, often it was just me—you know—for years. And that was definitely I think extremely isolating. I had already started to kind of think about that as a young adult and in college because my college experience, thankfully, was very different. You know, I went to school on the East Coast, I went as far from home as possible. It was diverse as far as college campuses go and I think 25% Asian and Asian American, so for the first time in my life, I was far from the only one. I could actually blend in in a crowd if I wanted to. It was amazing, [laughs] I loved it—I just loved it. It never got old. And so honestly the word I kept coming back to, especially in my early twenties, was sort of the harm that might have been done—inadvertently, it wasn’t like anybody—well, I guess except for people who said racist things, actually racist things. But for the most part it was not something that anyone or any group did to me in particular, it was just the overall atmosphere. The default was whiteness, it was what I was surrounded with all the time. I didn’t have the experience of having been anywhere else where it was different and so I was just always used to being the only one or one of very few. And I really didn’t start to kind of unpack what that meant and—and the direct harm I think it caused until I was older. That said, I was pretty aware in the moment as racist things were being said—you know—as kids would give me the chink eye in school or call me slurs or—you know—tell me to go back where I came from or say things about my adoption. I knew in the moment that that felt very bad, obviously, and I knew—I knew even then it wasn’t teasing. I never thought of it as teasing. I didn’t know to call it bullying or something else or racist for that matter, but to me it felt very different than say, being made fun of for wearing hand-me-down clothes, which had also happened to me. Or being made fun of for wearing glasses—you know—it really felt like what they were attacking and targeting was the essence of who I was. It was something unchangeable and fundamentally part of me. And I don’t know, having—having that happen, having that happen before I had the words to describe it to anybody was certainly harmful. It was isolating. I didn’t really know what to do with it and for years, I kind of just put up with it in silence I guess. I don’t remember really trying to tell many people about it. And—you know—my adoptive parents confirmed this. They said, “you never told us that specifically was happening. We knew you were unhappy at—at school, but we didn’t know that was why.” And so—I don’t know—it was this thing I felt like I think I had to protect them from it too—you know—because they did raise me to think that my race shouldn’t matter and that it wouldn’t matter to—I don’t know—it didn’t matter to them, it wouldn’t matter to other people, but I was being confronted with this daily proof that it did really matter to other people and I remember feeling like if I told them, they wouldn’t understand and it would make them feel bad. So—you know—even at a very young age, I was kind of trying to protect them from the reality of what was happening. SWB Yeah, the way you wrote about it in the book, it felt very much to me like they were trying to do their best and for them, what they perceived as doing their best was to pretend that your race didn’t exist and that that—you know—that that created all of these new problems for you. And I think—you know—when you talk about it as a harm, I think that that’s really powerful and it feels like part of that harm is also—you know—if the harm that’s being done doesn’t go acknowledged or understand, right? Like you don’t have anyone to talk about it who understands that it is harm. NC I think too my parents were sort of following—I mean I know they were following—the advice they were given at the time they adopted me. I felt like that was really important to put in the book. Not as a defense, just as a fact—you know—they asked several people—like experts—before I was adopted “does it matter that she’s Korean and we’re not? Is there something special we should be doing? I don’t know, are there books we should read or classes we should take?” And everyone told them no—the social worker, the judge. You know, they did try at several points to at least ask the question and—you know—all of these people told them “no, it doesn’t matter, just assimilate her into your family and it will all be fine.” And “assimilate” was really the word the judge used and that’s the word that my adoptive parents would remember and tell me later. So—again this is not like an excuse—but I think it was just very much the prevailing attitude of the day when it came to transracial adoptions like mine. You know, I think people were thinking it was important not to try and like—not to other the child. They were already going to be in the minority in a white family, so—you know—don’t call lots of attention to it because how would that make them feel? And yeah—I mean—that was really—that sort of colorblind line was the line most people in my adoptive family took, so it was a cue that I really tried to follow. It just—it was a lot harder for me for obvious reasons. [35:39] SWB Thinking about that—you know—obviously people have been writing about some of the problems with the colorblind approach in general. How has your sort of perception of—of transracial adoption shifted at this point? Or sort of what kinds of things do you want people to be thinking about and asking about and questioning? NC You know, I do try when I write about my personal experience or my life, I try hard not to be prescriptive or offer a lot of advice. I don’t feel like I have the training or the background—right—necessarily to do that. But there are a number of things I think are really important and to some degree I think are changing in adoption. I hear more these days about the importance of not just acknowledging, but celebrating a child’s culture and country of origin. That can look a variety of different ways, but I think it’s something that a lot of adoptive families feel comfortable with honestly because it’s the fun part. It is obviously way less fun and it’s much harder to really look hard and interrogate your communities, your schools, your churches and where you live and how you live and your social circle and think about if you were a non-white child—a child of color—entering these different circles and communities, what would your experience be? How would you feel? Would you feel comfortable? Would you find people who looked like you? You know, and that is a lot harder to do, it can be really uncomfortable. Also, I think it’s—it’s just hard as kids get older to talk about racism. I’ve been talking to my kids about it since they were verbal, but it is not always easy—you know—it can feel very difficult. It can sometimes feel heartbreaking and I understand this parental urge—right—to protect our children, but at the same time—you know—I think these are conversations that are so important that we can’t shy away from and—I mean—almost every parent of color I know talks to their kids about racism. It is unavoidable, it’s about survival and it’s about who they are as a person and what their experiences will be. It’s about being honest with them and we just—we do know from studies that a lot of white parents aren’t having these conversations or—you know—just find them really challenging. They are challenging, but if you’re the white parent of a child of color—you know—who is going to have the experience that a person of color has in this country, it’s absolutely something that you have to be able to talk about really honestly from a young age and not just wait for the child to bring up, but make it clear these topics are safe and they are always on the table and—you know—sometimes you’ll bring them up and sometimes your child might bring them up, but they have to know that they can come to you with these things. It is absolutely going to be relevant in their lives. Of course, even if it’s not relevant to how you love them, which it shouldn’t be. But yeah, I think there’s a tendency in adoption still to think that the differences are unimportant compared to the love. And I guess I would just say I think both of those things are really important. [laughs] And I think if you’re going to look at it realistically—you know—look at the child for the whole person that they are and think about what their experience is going to be. You know, these are conversations that you have to have before you adopt and then, obviously, after as they age in age appropriate ways. SWB I really appreciate you bringing up sort of the—the need for white people to have conversations about race. I mean, obviously, in this particular subject when it comes to transracial adoption, yes, but I think in general. And that’s something we’ve talked about on the show a few times where—you know—white people are the only people who get to choose [laughing] not to have conversations about race and then because of that, we’re really bad at it, right? Because we’re just incapable of having intelligent conversations about things that we are nervous about and have no practice in, no vocabulary for, etc. So I think it really underscores something that is true in so many different areas that if we learn to talk about race, that that is incredibly helpful and important. Something that you mentioned in sort of this conversation around how do you help adoptive kids stay in touch with the cultures of their birth families or at what level that happens. [39:52-41:20: Transcript unavailable] KL Yeah, I love hearing all of this. This is like—it’s just so cool to hear your story. I have a question about sort of the writing and publishing process because you recently talked about how this book was passed on by many publishers and for a while, you thought you might not even get to write it. What do you think changed for you or sort of in the market that you were working in? NC I mean, the first person in my acknowledgements is my editor, Julie Buntin at Catapult, and she deserves that place. She really fought for this book. I think even within Catapult—you know—I don’t know if everybody was immediately on board. I have no idea and I have not asked, but I know Julie always really wanted it. And she actually reached out to me even before I had a proposal and asked “hey, I really love your work, what are you working on? Are you working on a book?” [laughs and SWB laughs] And as it happened, I was, but I think honestly it took somebody with the kind of faith and commitment that Julie had to this book to get it to happen. All this to say, it is really wonderful to have a publisher that believes in your book even more than you do. I think—I’m not trying to sound self deprecating or falsely modest, but it’s such a deeply personal story—I am so close to it that it is difficult for me to evaluate it as a piece of literature. It just is. So, having really smart, really talented people in my corner the whole time sort of cheerleading for it made such a difference. I can’t imagine getting this kind of support—you know—from another publisher to be honest. I feel like all the things that other publishers thought were risks—like there aren’t very many Asian American memoirs out there, what if this only appeals to people who are actually adopted? I think that Catapult saw the things that made this book different in the marketplace as strengths and not risks. And I mean personally I very much hope that it’s well received, but also, I felt all along that I do not want to let them down because their faith in this book has just been extraordinary. And the way they continue to hustle for it—I mean, the fact that people are talking about it, that’s really because of their work, you know? So, I feel very lucky to have landed where I did. KL I think that makes so much sense and, you know, it’s funny Sara and I have recently been talking about how something that we’ve noticed with authors and just in general folks who are wanting to write more—whether it’s in book form or not—getting some external validation of, you know, the fact that [laughs] what you’re saying is—makes sense and is important is critical. And I think having a really good relationship with the publisher you trust is huge. NC It’s true. I really give them a lot of credit, honestly. This is a very different book. You know, there aren’t a lot of adoption stories out there by adoptees. For the most part, our stories are told by other people. And so I really do appreciate and give them so much credit for—I guess—taking a chance on this. SWB So, in talking about how the book came to be and sort of the people who helped make it happen, I also want to ask a little bit about The Toast, where you were the managing editor. NC Oh sure! SWB So, for our listeners who aren’t familiar, The Toast was a site that Nicole Cliffe and Daniel Ortberg started that featured really funny, weird, feminist writing is maybe the simplest way to put it. It’s not publishing anymore so if you haven’t read it, go check out the archives because you have a whole lot of delight in store for you. [NC laughs] Anyway, so Nicole you wrote for The Toast a little bit and then you ended up being the managing editor and you once wrote that without The Toast, you probably wouldn’t be writing this book. And I’m curious what it was about your experience there that made it feel so crucial in sort of your—your development as a writer and your ability to be where you are now. [45:05] NC Well, I think that one thing writers talk about a lot is the importance of community. And that can take so many different forms. You know, I don’t get to hang out with a lot of writers in real life. My first writing communities were really online. I mean, it was LiveJournal, to be honest, and it was Hyphen Magazine, and it was The Toast. So, I think I am really a product of these different communities I found. You know maybe I just kind of lacked some crucial shot of courage or something, but it was difficult to start sharing such personal stories about my family and about adoption and about racism that I’d experienced. And it’s not necessarily that I needed someone externally to validate them or to say, “this is legitimate, this really happened, this is important,” but I think just a little human kindness and, like, honestly went a very, very long way. The Toast was a fantastic community, the commentariat—much has been written about how it was one of the only good comment sections on the entire internet. It’s true that every time I wrote something there—I mean, both the goofy stuff like “If John Cho Were Your Boyfriend” and the more serious pieces on race or adoption or family—the response was overwhelmingly positive and supportive, and it was just really a privilege and a honor to get to edit and publish and write for that community at The Toast. I think it did make me braver, I think it made me appreciate the work of other writers so much more, and it made me think—I mean it was one of the things, maybe not the only thing, but one of the things that made me think, there is interest in this beyond people who were adopted or beyond people who have adopted. And people who are curious or have their own complicated families or have their own family secrets, they will be interested, they will be able to connect, they might get something from this. It could be a story that people need. So, yeah. It was not any one particular experience at The Toast, just the overall privilege—you know—of getting to work for that particular community. SWB Yeah, that concept of generosity rings so true to me because I do think that there is this peace that’s like really great editors and really great community make you feel like you are sort of receiving—even if you’re receiving something that objectively sucks like feedback on your work [laughs]—but you feel like you’re getting something that—that is—is good and enriching in some way and it feels like a gift. I think that that’s so powerful and to make that process come from this place of sort of genuine love and care and that—that I think is so much more powerful and so it completely shows. So, now fast forward to where we are right now. By the time our listeners hear this, the book will be out and there has been a lot of buzz for it. I saw that Publisher’s Weekly gave it a starred review and called it “stunning, vibrant and provocative,” which are some pretty good terms. And I saw it’s also on a lot of highly anticipated lists for the fall, so um… how are you feeling? NC I’m feeling really overwhelmed! [SWB & KL laugh] Although, sometimes I feel oddly nothing. Like I was sort of a blank slate of expectations. I didn’t know—this is my first book—you know—and I didn’t know how it would feel. The fact that it’s a memoir and so personal—I mean—just kind of made it more—I think—anxiety producing and mysterious for me. But yeah, I kind of—I see all the lists and it’s all really lovely and I feel people are being very charitable and I try not to give into imposter syndrome, but sometimes I do wonder [laughing] “what is the source of all this?” I don’t know, it’s so strange to see something that just lived in your head and in your heart out in the world having a life of its own. Like people reacting to it, even positively, in ways beyond your control. I love every kind thing, every thoughtful thing that people say about it, but at the same time, it’s just—it’s just so strange too to know that it’s out there being reacted to—you know—not only can I not control other people’s reactions to it—you know—I don’t want to. I think that’s the experience of reading—that something that nobody—not even the author—can take away from you is how you read a book and what you take away from it. But it’s just really interesting to hear the parts that I maybe think of as slightly less what the book is about, sometimes those are the parts that really resonate for people. I keep taking screenshots of the lists or saving them because [laughs] I feel like I’ll read them later and maybe feel more. Right now it’s just like there’s a limit. It’s like by 11am every day, I’ve hit my limit of what I can feel about the book that day and I’ll have to [laughs] wait for another day to feel and process more. [SWB & KL laugh] It’s definitely a lot. KL That makes total sense. I mean, we love it and we—we hope that you enjoy all the moments [laughing] no matter how overwhelming they might feel. But—so when you think about looking forward to once some of this frenzy of the release has passed, what are you most looking forward to? [50:08] NC I want to go on vacation for like a month! It’s not going to happen—it’s just not with work—but I want to take a little break. I’d like to take a nap for like three straight days. [laughs] And—I mean—I’ll be really honest. This has been—it’s been coming up in some other interviews too, but—I mean—my father passed away in January and I feel like I have not really even begun to like —I don’t know—not move past it because you don’t move past it, but there has not been a lot of time to think or to grieve. There hasn’t been as much time as I would like for my family this year and it’s just because of the nature of publishing a book, working a lot, not having a ton of vacation and—and having—you know—my father pass in the same year that my book comes out is—it’s been really hard. It’s been… really challenging and—and I’m honestly really looking forward to having some downtime for myself to process and maybe go to grief counseling finally. Just sort of spend a lot of time with my mom and my kids and—you know—certainly I’ll be thinking about what’s next, but I think probably some self care will be in order. [KL laughs] KL Yeah that’s— SWB Yeah, I hope you get both. I think you should have both a vacation and the time to properly process your feelings— KL Yeah. SWB —and deal with grief. NC Thank you. I mean that said, I am so looking forward to the book being out there. I’m really looking forward to tour. I think it will be, again, overwhelming, but mostly wonderful. I feel very honored that anybody is spending time with the book and I really want to get out there and meet and talk with people about it because it’s a special thing and I know—you know—I’ll never have this exact experience again. This is it for this—for this book, this is my chance. But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t also looking forward to taking a really deep long breath [laughs] when it’s over. [SWB & KL laugh] KL We’re sadly almost out of time, so I just want to make sure that everyone knows that “All You Can Ever Know” is on sale literally everywhere right now, so we hope everyone will pick up a copy. Nicole, where else can folks keep up with you? NC My Twitter handle is @nicole_soojung—Soojung is my Korean name. And I’m on Instagram—Nicole Soojung—and those are my only public social media accounts so [laughs] but I would love to connect with people. My email is also not super difficult to find either. And if there are writers out there who have stories they would like to share, I do edit and publish fiction and non-fiction for Catapult so I would love to hear from you. KL Amazing. SWB Nicole, thank you so much for being here. NC Thank you for having me! I had such a good time. [music fades in, plays alone for five seconds, and fades out] SWB Listening to Nicole talk about her book is so great. I could give a fuck yeah for that. Buuuut I think we need more fuck yeahs than that. Katel, what have you got? KL Oh, I’ve got a good one and it is on theme! I just started listening to audiobooks. Hi, welcome me to [laughs] the present day. [SWB laughs] I’ve started to read so many books in the last few months and I just—I don’t know—I never seem to be able to finish them in paperback so I got a Kindle a little while ago, which I love because I can keep a bunch of books on it. But all of a sudden, I took a chance, I got an audiobook and now I feel like I have this whole new option. SWB So, what are you quote, unquote reading right now? [KL laughs] KL So, I’m reading slash listening to Too Fat, Too Slutty, Too Loud: The Rise and Reign of the Unruly Woman. It is fucking great, unsurprisingly, but it’s really amazing because I get to just kind of lose myself in it for the first time. I haven’t felt that way in a while, so it’s great. SWB That’s awesome. This is also really great because I actually wanted to do a fuck yeah to fall books because there are so many great books that are coming out. So, Nicole’s book obviously, which we got to read early, which was such a treat. But I’m also really excited for Rebecca Traister’s new book, it’s called Good and Mad. It is about women’s anger and hello, I have some of that [laughs]—in a healthy way. And then there’s Michelle Obama’s memoir and Phoebe Robinson from 2 Dope Queens has a new book that’s called Everything’s Trash, But It’s Okay. [KL laughs] Great title. And there are so many more books that I’m hyped about, so I can not wait to get some of these new titles, curl up with them, get myself a warm beverage while it’s cooling down outside. I’m just very, very, very much looking forward to reading books all fall and winter. KL I love it. I think we need to take a little trip somewhere to a fireplace-having location and just have a whole weekend where we read. Just—you know—putting that out there. SWB That sounds so great. So fuck yeah to fall reading! KL Fuck yeah! SWB Fuck yeah. That reminds me, I’ve got to order some new slippers. [pause] Well, that is it for this week’s episode of No, You Go. Our show is recorded in our home city of Philadelphia and produced by Steph Colbourn. Our theme music is by The Diaphone. Thanks to Nicole Chung for being our guest today. KL If you love NYG, make sure to subscribe and rate us wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Your support helps us do what we do and we love that. See you next week! SWB Bye! KL Bye! [music fades in, plays alone for 32 seconds, and fades out to end]

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