Equine Assisted World with Rupert Isaacson

In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Helen Sharp, an equine journalist, academic, and co-founder of Groundwork EAS—an equine-assisted charity on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. A leading voice in both equine media and trauma-informed equine work, Dr. Sharp brings a unique blend of artistry, horsemanship, and therapeutic insight to everything she does.She writes for The Irish Field and Farmers Journal, and her career spans journalism, community arts, equine bodywork, and academic research. She holds a PhD and has a background in sculpture and performance art, with her creative and research work shown around the world. As co-director of Groundwork, she serves veterans, trauma survivors, and neurodivergent individuals through programs that fuse nature, horses, and compassionate partnership.This powerful conversation traces her extraordinary journey from the Hebrides to heroin recovery, from performance art to equine-assisted leadership, and why horses continue to be the greatest teachers of all.

In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Dr. Megan McGavern, a board-certified physician in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. Megan shares the powerful story behind the founding of C.H.A.T.S.—Creative, Holistic, Adaptive, Therapeutic Solutions—and how it was born out of both professional insight and personal necessity.When her son Cole faced significant challenges, and medical professionals told her to accept that he might never regain functionality, Megan refused to give up. Drawing on her medical training, clinical experience, and deep intuition as a mother, she created C.H.A.T.S. as a space where children like Cole could thrive. C.H.A.T.S. is not about traditional therapy or horseback riding—it is about building relationship, regulation, and readiness to learn through purposeful, adaptive, equine-based engagement.What sets Megan apart is her ability to take science-based, evidence-backed practices—like Movement Method—and integrate them meaningfully into both therapeutic and clinical settings. After traveling to New Trails to learn Movement Method and Horse Boy Method firsthand from Rupert Isaacson, Megan returned home and applied what she had learned with her son Cole. The profound changes she witnessed led her to establish C.H.A.T.S. as a nonprofit organization. From there, she worked to bring Movement Method into the medical establishment, eventually helping to launch a neuroscience conference focused on the approach and its clinical applications.What You'll Learn in This Episode:From Despair to Innovation: A Mother's Mission (Starts at 01:45)The moment Megan was told to “accept the loss” regarding her son Cole's future.Why she decided to go beyond traditional care models.The founding of C.H.A.T.S. and how it gave Cole a new chance at life.Movement Method and Medical Practice (Starts at 20:10)How Megan found the Movement Method and incorporated it into her work.Practical ways she's brought it into institutional and clinical settings.The role of science—not mysticism—in shaping her therapeutic philosophy.C.H.A.T.S. in Action (Starts at 32:40)What makes C.H.A.T.S. distinct from other equine-assisted programs.Why it's focused on adaptability, safety, and authentic connection.How Megan uses observation, relationship, and responsiveness to meet each child's needs.The Dual Role: Mother and Medical Professional (Starts at 48:15)How personal experience reshaped her understanding of care.Advice for professionals who want to do more—but don't know how.Why being present often matters more than having all the answers.Memorable Moments from the Episode:Megan recounts hearing that her son might never regain function (04:02).The turning point where C.H.A.T.S. took form in response to Cole's needs (11:50).Integrating Movement Method into medical care (24:35).A reflection on letting go of "being the expert" to simply be present (53:20).Connect with Dr. Megan McGavern: 

In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Warwick Schiller, renowned horseman and creator of Attuned Horsemanship. Warwick is widely recognized for his transformative approach to horse training, which focuses on attunement, connection, and creating a sense of safety for the horse. Through his Journey On Podcast and extensive teaching, Warwick has helped thousands of riders and trainers understand the deeper layers of horsemanship and how true awareness changes everything.Together, Rupert and Warwick explore the concept of attunement—how being truly present and aware influences both horses and people. They discuss how small, subtle shifts in attention can have profound effects on behavior, trust, and emotional regulation. They also dive into sleep deprivation in horses, the power of following rather than controlling, and what it really means to develop a deep partnership with an equine partner.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Understanding Attunement and Connection (Starts at 02:20)The definition of attunement and why it matters in horsemanship.How attunement applies to both horses and people.Warwick's journey to understanding deep connection.The Role of Awareness in Building Trust (Starts at 16:10)The difference between “trusting you won't hurt me” and “trusting your awareness to keep me safe.”How observing small signals from your horse builds trust over time.The science behind attunement and safety in mammals.The Power of Giving Up Control (Starts at 36:27)Why giving up control doesn't mean losing control.How allowing horses to make choices increases connection.Exercises for developing attunement by matching steps and mirroring behavior.How Sleep Deprivation Affects Horses (Starts at 56:10)Why some horses struggle with sleep deprivation and what it means.How Warwick accidentally helped a sleep-deprived horse by simply listening.The connection between feeling safe and being able to sleep.Integrating Attunement into Riding and Training (Starts at 1:14:22)Why training should be about awareness, not just technique.The role of breath and relaxation in riding.How to ensure your horse is mentally and emotionally present before asking for movement.Practical Tools for Creating Attunement in Everyday Training (Starts at 1:36:27)Simple ways to start building attunement today.The “look where they look” technique and why it's so powerful.How mirroring movement builds trust and awareness.Memorable Moments from the Episode:The story of the Mustang who overcame bolting through attunement (12:03).How giving a horse space to “say no” transformed its willingness (45:36).The unexpected link between sleep deprivation and emotional regulation in horses (1:04:00).The revelation that attunement and safety go hand in hand (1:42:38).Why trust is built on recognizing and repairing ruptures in connection (1:44:17).Connect with Warwick Schiller:

 In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Mary Wanless, a pioneer in the field of rider biomechanics. For decades, Mary has been at the forefront of reshaping how we understand equestrian training by focusing on the physics and physiology of riding. With a background in physics and a deep curiosity about what truly makes a great rider, Mary has worked to demystify the biomechanics of effective riding. Her methods help riders of all levels develop a clearer understanding of their own bodies and how they interact with their horses.Mary shares her insights into postural restoration, neurology in riding, the importance of feedback loops in instruction, and the crucial role of feel in equestrian training. This episode is packed with wisdom that will transform the way you approach riding and teaching.What You'll Learn in This Episode:The Science of Rider Biomechanics (Starts at 02:20)How Mary's background in physics shaped her approach to riding.Why traditional riding instruction often fails to communicate the "how."Understanding postural restoration and its impact on riding: https://www.posturalrestoration.com/Understanding the Neurology of Riding (Starts at 16:10)The significant neurological connection between the hands and the brain—and why this leads riders to overuse their hands.The lack of neurological connection between the pelvis and the brain and how that affects balance and control.How the body's fascial system (as explored in Anatomy Trains by Thomas Myers) influences rider biomechanics: https://amzn.to/4ibrGgNBridging the Gap Between Language and Experience (Starts at 36:27)How to verbalize the unspoken "feel" of great riding.The importance of the student-teacher feedback loop.The challenges of translating elite rider intuition into teachable concepts.The Core Foundations of Effective Riding (Starts at 56:10)How to align your body for maximum effectiveness.Why bearing down and breathing correctly is fundamental.The importance of allowing the foot to rest rather than pressing.The Role of Flow in Riding (Starts at 1:14:22)Flow state as the key to riding success.The connection between flow and joy.Why elite riders unconsciously access flow—and how you can, too.Training Tools and Resources for Riders (Starts at 1:36:27)The Balloon Breathing Exercise and how it creates quietness in the mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDbm8LxfzaIDeveloping feel through systematic, science-based methods.How groundwork supports better biomechanics under saddle.Memorable Moments from the Episode:The revelation that "feel" can be taught (12:03).Why cutting out the student-teacher feedback loop is detrimental to learning (45:36).The connection between breathing, bearing down, and core stability (1:04:00).A deep dive into why postural restoration matters for every rider (1:42:38).The surprising realization that joy is a subset of flow, and flow is the key to great riding (1:44:17).Connect with Mary Wanless:

Robyn Hood, sister of Linda Tellington-Jones and a leading figure in the development of the Tellington TTouch Method, joins Rupert Isaacson in this insightful episode. Robyn has dedicated her life to refining and teaching TTouch, a revolutionary approach to working with horses, dogs, and other animals that fosters trust, connection, and healing. In this conversation, she delves into the origins of TTouch, its impact on equine well-being, and practical techniques that horse owners and equine-assisted practitioners can integrate into their work. Whether you're looking to deepen your relationship with your horse or explore a more mindful approach to training, this episode is filled with wisdom and practical insights. Learn more about Robyn's work here: https://learn.ttouch.ca | https://ttouch.comWhat You'll Learn in This Episode:The Origins and Philosophy of TTouch (Starts at 02:31)How Robyn and Linda developed TTouch.The inspiration behind the method and how it differs from traditional equine bodywork.Understanding the nervous system's role in movement and behavior.Key TTouch Techniques for Equine Well-being (Starts at 16:03)The Clouded Leopard touch and why it's a cornerstone of TTouch.The importance of gentle, mindful contact in building trust.How to identify and respond to equine tension and discomfort.Body Wraps and Their Impact on Equine Balance (Starts at 36:27)What body wraps are and how they work.How they help horses with proprioception, relaxation, and postural awareness.Practical applications for therapy horses and performance horses alike.TTouch for Enhancing Human-Equine Communication (Starts at 56:02)How to interpret subtle equine body language.Why intention matters in touch and training.How TTouch principles apply to groundwork and riding.Cross-Species Applications of TTouch (Starts at 1:14:22)How TTouch benefits dogs, cats, and even zoo animals.The surprising effects of touch on emotional regulation in animals.How to introduce TTouch to a new animal safely.The Role of TTouch in Equine-Assisted Therapy (Starts at 1:36:27)How TTouch helps therapy horses stay physically and emotionally sound.Why the well-being of the horse is just as important as the well-being of the client.Best practices for integrating TTouch into equine-assisted work.Memorable Moments from the Episode:How horses in equine-assisted therapy programs communicate their stress and how TTouch can help (12:03).The unexpected link between equine tension and emotional trauma (30:18).A fascinating case study on how body wraps helped a horse with chronic anxiety (49:52).The importance of mindful observation in horse training (1:07:15).How horses mirror human emotions and what that means for equine practitioners (1:22:40).The transformative effects of TTouch on performance horses, including those competing at the highest levels (1:48:15).Connect with Robyn Hood & Tellington TTouch:

Shea Stewart, renowned craniosacral therapist and founder of Equine Balance (https://www.equinebalance.net), joins Rupert Isaacson in this enlightening episode to explore the intersections of quantum biology, mitochondrial health, and equine-assisted practices. With a wealth of knowledge in human and equine well-being, Shea unpacks the impact of natural light, electromagnetic fields, structured water, and movement on health. Whether you're an equine-assisted practitioner, horse owner, or someone seeking to optimize your well-being, this conversation is packed with transformative insights. Learn more about Shea here: https://www.equinebalance.net/about-us/What You'll Learn in This Episode:The Role of Craniosacral Therapy in Human and Equine Health (Starts at 04:44)How Shea's journey into craniosacral therapy began.The impact of craniosacral therapy on the nervous system, fascia, and overall well-being.Understanding Mitochondrial Health and Energy Production (Starts at 17:54)Why ATP is essential.How equine-assisted practitioners can optimize mitochondrial function for themselves and their horses.How Lighting Affects Equine and Human Well-being (Starts at 28:42)The disruption of circadian rhythms by artificial lighting.Practical solutions for barns and therapeutic settings.The Power of Natural Light and Circadian Rhythms (Starts at 42:45)Importance of exposure to natural sunlight for sleep, mood, and energy regulation.Grounding, Electromagnetic Fields, and Their Effects (Starts at 56:02)How EMFs impact mitochondrial function.How to create healthier spaces for horses and clients.Cold Exposure and Seasonal Well-being (Starts at 1:14:22)The benefits of cold exposure.How it connects to vitamin D production, inflammation reduction, and resilience.Memorable Moments from the Episode:The connection between quantum biology and equine-assisted therapy (12:03).How light exposure affects neurotransmitters like serotonin and melatonin (30:18).A discussion on why fly masks and blankets can impact mitochondrial function (49:52).The surprising ways equine-assisted therapy helps regulate brain activity (1:07:15).Why turning off WiFi at night can improve equine and human sleep quality (1:22:40).Practical strategies for optimizing barn lighting to support equine well-being (1:36:27).Contact Shea Stewart

Norunn Kogstad, a Norwegian psychotherapist and psychiatrist, is the visionary behind Lundehagen, a therapeutic center that blends psychotherapy, equine-assisted therapy, and exceptional horse welfare practices. With decades of experience and a deep passion for human and equine well-being, Norunn has created a sanctuary where healing, connection, and joy thrive. Her unique approach integrates relational therapy and cutting-edge practices that transform lives for both people and horses.In this inspiring conversation, Norunn shares her journey, her philosophy of equine care, and how fostering joy and belonging can heal emotional wounds.What You'll Learn in This Episode:The Foundation of Equine-Assisted Psychotherapy (Starts at 0:47):Norunn explains what psychotherapy is, its historical evolution, and why horses play such a vital role in this healing process.Joy and Belonging Through Horses (Starts at 15:20):Discover how Norunn's childhood experiences in nature with horses shaped her vision for Lundehagen and inspired her to create a space where clients and horses connect deeply.Relational and Conflict-Focused Therapy (Starts at 28:50):Learn about the therapeutic techniques used at Lundehagen, emphasizing relationships, empathy, and addressing self-defeating patterns.Holistic Horse Welfare Practices (Starts at 45:15):Norunn shares Lundehagen's approach to ensuring the physical and emotional well-being of their horses, including the importance of choice and variety in their daily lives.Creating Joyful Therapy Sessions (Starts at 1:01:10):Hear real-life examples of how equine-assisted therapy fosters joy and resilience in clients, with horses as active participants in the process.The Intersection of Neuroscience and Equine Therapy (Starts at 1:18:40):Explore the science behind how horses respond to humans' subtle signals and the profound impact this has on emotional regulation and healing.Memorable Moments from the Episode:Norunn's reflections on finding belonging in the mountains with her first Icelandic pony (16:40).Insights into the importance of allowing horses to opt out of sessions and how this empowers both horses and clients (46:20).A touching story about a chaotic client finding peace and joy during an equine therapy session (1:02:35).Norunn's discussion on the role of physical conditioning and classical dressage in equine-assisted therapy programs (1:10:15).Contact Norunn Kogstad

Healing Through Connection with Kim Barthel: Neuroscience, Safety, and the Power of RelationshipsKim Barthel is an award-winning occupational therapist, international speaker, and bestselling author whose work integrates neuroscience, trauma therapy, and relational healing. With over 40 years of experience, she specializes in supporting individuals with trauma, neurodivergence, and developmental challenges. Through her company, Relationship Matters, Kim emphasizes the critical role of safety and connection in fostering personal growth and resilience.In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson dives into a transformative conversation with Kim, exploring her expertise in neuroscience, trauma, and the healing power of relationships. Kim shares profound insights into how emotional safety, attunement, and the body's natural wisdom guide people toward healing and empowerment.What You'll Learn in This EpisodeKim's Background and Journey (Starts at 00:02:57)Kim discusses her early career as an occupational therapist and her pioneering work in sensory integration and neuroscience. She highlights her path from a love of movement to becoming a global leader in trauma and relational healing.Understanding Emotional Safety and Connection (Starts at 00:10:45)Kim explains the science behind emotional safety and its role in neuroplasticity. She offers practical tools for therapists and equestrians to create trust and foster growth.The Role of Horses in Healing (Starts at 00:20:04)Kim shares her experiences with equine therapy, emphasizing how horses act as powerful facilitators of movement, connection, and relational healing.The Importance of Attunement (Starts at 00:42:45)Kim shares real-life examples of how attunement creates opportunities for healing, highlighting its importance when working with trauma and neurodivergence.Kim's Work with Indigenous Communities (Starts at 01:20:04)Kim reflects on her work with Canada's indigenous communities, focusing on reconnecting with cultural wisdom and integrating land-based learning to support healing and education.How to Address Shame in Trauma Work (Starts at 01:35:45)Kim discusses practical tools to help individuals navigate shame, explaining how sensory integration and compassionate attunement can transform self-beliefs.The Power of Somatic Practices (Starts at 01:40:30)Kim explains the benefits of somatic practices, such as the "Butterfly Tap," to help individuals ground themselves and reconnect with their bodies.Memorable Moments from the EpisodeKim recalls her first encounter with Temple Grandin, where Temple's insights into sensory processing profoundly shaped her work (00:11:02).Rupert reflects on his time with Kalahari Bushmen, drawing parallels between their parenting approaches and the need for emotional safety in equine therapy (00:26:00).Kim discusses the interplay of neuroscience and movement, exploring how the brain creates new pathways through repetition and sensory input (00:30:00).Kim shares a moving story about a Ukrainian veteran navigating trauma and resilience during the early days of the conflict (01:19:00).Rupert and Kim explore how humor acts as a bridge to connection, allowing both clients and practitioners to find relief and authenticity during difficult moments (01:25:15).Kim reflects on the significance of self-regulation for practitioners, emphasizing the value of authenticity and self-awareness in trauma work (01:47:00).Contact Kim BarthelWebsite: http://www.kimbarthel.caFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/KimBarthelOTRInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/KimBarthelOTRYouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@labyrinthjourneysSee All of Rupert's Programs and ShowsRupert Isaacson's Programs and Shows: http://www.rupertisaacson.comFollow UsLong Ride HomeWebsite: http://www.longridehome.comFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/longridehome.lrhInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/longridehome_lrhYouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@longridehomeNew Trails Learning SystemsWebsite: http://www.ntls.coFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/horseboyworldInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/horseboyworldYouTube: http://www.youtube.com/newtrailslearningsystems

Linda Tellington-Jones, a pioneer in equine welfare and therapeutic riding, is best known for the Tellington TTouch Method. A globally celebrated horsewoman, author, and teacher, Linda has spent decades redefining equine care, integrating holistic techniques that enhance horse and rider communication. Her unique methods, which blend science, compassion, and creativity, have transformed practices in equestrian care and therapeutic settings worldwide.In this inspiring conversation, Linda shares her lifetime of wisdom on equine well-being, human and horse emotional healing, and the role of gratitude and joy in achieving optimal health.What You'll Learn in This Episode:The Foundation of Equine Welfare (Starts at 0:46): Linda discusses the importance of gratitude and recognizing the individuality of horses, emphasizing how these practices elevate both horse welfare and human-horse relationships.The Science of Cellular Wisdom (Starts at 13:05): Drawing from years of experience and studies, Linda explores the cellular intelligence within horses and humans, explaining how TTouch methods enhance physical and emotional healing.Practical Applications of TTouch (Starts at 29:34): Learn how Tellington TTouch techniques like "the lick of the cow's tongue" and "tarantulas pulling the plow" help horses overcome physical challenges like back pain and stiffness.Enhancing Equine Assisted Programs (Starts at 45:20): Discover how gratitude, art, music, and sensory exercises transform equine-assisted therapy for clients and horses, creating a joyful and healing environment.Rehabilitating Therapy Horses (Starts at 1:02:15): Linda shares strategies for incorporating therapeutic rehabilitation into equine-assisted programs, using real-life examples of transforming "crocked" horses into thriving partners.The Connection Between Gratitude, Joy, and Healing (Starts at 1:20:50): Learn how gratitude fosters joy, and how both emotions play a crucial role in physical and mental well-being for both humans and horses.Memorable Moments from the Episode:Linda's reflections on gratitude as a starting point for equine care and healing (1:15:30).Insights into the power of light touch in activating the parasympathetic nervous system and fostering deep connection (29:50).A fascinating story about releasing fear through the "lick of the cow's tongue" technique (1:01:45).Linda's innovative use of tools like Beamer Blankets and LifeWave pain patches to aid in equine rehabilitation (33:20).Resources and Further Reading:LifeWave Pain Patches: https://www.lifewave.comMan on His Nature by Sir Charles Sherrington: https://amzn.to/3DpIy4hMolecules of Emotion by Dr. Candace Pert: https://amzn.to/3P9wffmHeartMath EMWave and Heart Coherence Tools: https://www.heartmath.com/emwave/Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute: https://www.monroeinstitute.orgHeartMath Podcasts: https://www.heartmath.com/addheartpodcast/The Song of the Cell: An Exploration of Medicine and the New Human by Siddhartha Mukherjee: https://amzn.to/4gsCoz0Center for Attitudinal Healing: https://www.ahinternational.orgThe Book of Ho'oponopono by Ulrich Dupree: https://amzn.to/3DtjvgZTellington TTouch Training: https://ttouch.comLearn TTouch Courses: https://learn.ttouch.caLFRF Podcast with Linda Tellington-Jones: https://ntls.co/podcastContact Linda Tellington-Jones

Empowering Education and Healing Through Horses with Alex NorthoverAlex Northover is the director of Making Momentum CIC, a community interest company in Cheshire, UK, that provides alternative education and therapeutic services for children and young people. With a background as a science teacher and extensive experience in equine-assisted methods, Alex merges academic learning, nervous system regulation, and interactions with horses to create transformational opportunities. Her innovative approach focuses on child-led learning, trauma-informed care, and movement-based education, offering life-changing support for children struggling in traditional education settings.In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Alex about her journey from teaching to building Making Momentum, the role of horses and other animals in therapeutic education, and her inspiring work with children dealing with trauma and school non-attendance.What You'll Learn in This EpisodeAlex's Journey to Making Momentum (Starts at 1:00)Alex shares her journey from being a science teacher to founding Making Momentum, where she combines her passion for education, horses, and trauma-informed care to create impactful programs.The Role of Horses in Emotional Regulation (Starts at 6:00)Horses, goats, and even chickens play a key role at Making Momentum, helping children with nervous system regulation and fostering emotional growth.Child-Led and Movement-Based Learning (Starts at 15:30)Alex discusses how tailoring education to each child's interests and incorporating movement-based methods lead to breakthroughs in learning and emotional resilience.Teaching Academic Concepts with Horses (Starts at 25:00)Alex explains how she uses equine interactions to teach subjects like math and science, demonstrating how these methods engage children in innovative ways.Addressing Emotionally Based School Non-Attendance (EBSNA) (Starts at 33:15)Alex highlights the importance of understanding EBSNA as a response to trauma rather than defiance and shares success stories of helping children rediscover joy in learning.Memorable Moments from the EpisodeAlex reflects on the challenges of working with school-refusing children and how emotionally based non-attendance stems from trauma (33:15).A heartwarming story about a child who used horses to regulate emotions and ultimately pass their GCSEs on the farm (42:00).The impact of incorporating personal interests—like Pokémon and French—into education, making learning fun and engaging for children (25:45).Alex shares her own journey of growing up horse-obsessed, working in riding schools, and building a lifelong connection to horses (49:30).Rupert and Alex discuss the importance of co-regulation with horses and the role of oxytocin in helping children achieve emotional balance and success (56:15).Contact Alex Northover

Transforming Lives with Christine Dickson: Trauma, Trust, and the Wisdom of HorsesChristine Dickson is an international speaker, mentor, clinical hypnotherapist, IEMT Advanced Practitioner, and Equine Coach who helps people let go of negative past memories and build a creative and connected life of purpose and abundance. Her clients describe the work as transformational and have gone on to create the life of their dreams. She lives in the Los Angeles area with her horses, dog, and cats.In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Christine to explore how her diverse expertise combines to guide clients through healing and personal growth. Christine shares her journey of overcoming adversity, her unique approach to equine-assisted coaching, and how horses serve as powerful mirrors for transformation.What You'll Learn in This EpisodeChristine's Background and Approach (Starts at 1:00)Christine discusses her diverse background, starting as a clinical hypnotherapist in 2004 and later becoming an advanced IEMT practitioner and equine coach. She explains how her modalities, combined with equine-assisted coaching, provide unique tools for addressing trauma and fostering personal growth.The Impact of Childhood Conditioning (Starts at 12:45)Christine explains how childhood experiences, particularly in families with addiction or personality disorders, shape subconscious patterns. She highlights the profound effects of hypervigilance, empathy, and the struggle to cultivate self-awareness and healthy boundaries.How Horses Facilitate Healing (Starts at 23:10)Christine shares how horses act as mirrors for our emotions and behaviors, helping clients gain clarity and insight. By observing and projecting onto horses, clients can identify and address patterns in their own lives.Reclaiming Authenticity Through Transformation (Starts at 31:45)Christine describes her personal journey of overcoming adversity, rediscovering herself, and creating a life aligned with her values. Her work focuses on empowering clients to break free from subconscious programming and step into a thriving, authentic life.A Unique Approach to Equine-Assisted Coaching (Starts at 41:20)Christine highlights the wisdom of horses in facilitating healing, emphasizing their ability to guide clients naturally. Her approach involves creating a safe, non-judgmental space for clients to interact with horses and uncover deep insights.Memorable Moments from the EpisodeChristine reflects on the subconscious patterns formed in childhood and how they drive behavior into adulthood (12:45).The story of Christine rediscovering herself after financial hardship and personal challenges, using tools like The Artist's Way (31:00).How a simple visit to a barn as a child sparked her connection to horses, leading to her passion for equine-assisted coaching (22:00).Rupert and Christine discuss the transformative power of projecting emotions onto horses as a way to gain clarity (25:45).Christine highlights the wisdom of horses and their natural ability to guide healing without needing rigid frameworks (41:20).Christine shares a powerful client story about someone finding their voice after years of feeling silenced, thanks to equine-assisted sessions (1:34:00).A deep dive into the concept of "radical self-compassion" and how it allows individuals to navigate trauma and self-healing (1:40:15).Rupert and Christine discuss the interconnectedness of the human nervous system with horses, offering insights into how non-verbal communication fosters trust and healing (1:48:00).Christine opens up about overcoming a difficult childhood shaped by addiction in her family, explaining how those early experiences fueled her empathy and understanding in her work with clients (1:55:30).Christine courageously opens up about her experience with prosecution and jail, reflecting on how this period of immense personal challenge forced her to confront her own pain and rebuild her life with clarity, authenticity, and purpose (1:55:30).Contact Christine

From PR to Horses: The Story of Smiling Goat Ranch with Sheryl BartoIn this transformative episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with the remarkable Sheryl Barto, founder of Smiling Goat Ranch in Carbondale, Colorado. Sheryl shares her deeply personal and inspiring journey, shaped by her son James, who is on the autism spectrum, and her lifelong love for horses. Discover how Sheryl built Smiling Goat Ranch into a haven for children, families, and individuals navigating autism, trauma, and life's many challenges—all while integrating horses, mountain sports, and ranch life in a holistic and life-changing way.What You'll Learn in This EpisodeSheryl's Personal Journey (Starts at 2:00)Sheryl grew up with a deep connection to horses, spending her youth showing Ponies of the Americas (POAs) and exploring the countryside on horseback. Despite her dream of becoming a horse trainer, life initially took her on a different path—earning a journalism degree and building a successful career in PR. But when her son James was diagnosed with autism at age 10, Sheryl began to uncover a new purpose: helping others through the healing power of horses and nature.The Birth of Smiling Goat Ranch (Starts at 16:30)Founded in 2015, Smiling Goat Ranch offers equine-assisted therapy, classical horsemanship, and activities like mountain sports and ranch work. Sheryl's approach is profoundly influenced by her experiences as an autism mom, her classical horse training skills, and her belief in the therapeutic connection between humans and animals. The ranch serves not only children with autism but also individuals dealing with trauma and those searching for connection and belonging.The Name and the Heart of the Ranch (Starts at 24:00)The ranch's name, Smiling Goat, reflects the joy and character of its early residents: three pygmy goats named Nelly, Lester, and Hubert. These quirky and lovable animals became symbolic of the warmth and playfulness that permeates the ranch, which now includes a range of animals and activities designed to meet people where they are—whether they connect best with horses, goats, mountain trails, or even wildflowers.The Role of Classical Dressage and Yoga (Starts at 32:15)Sheryl delves into the profound parallels between yoga and classical dressage, noting how both disciplines cultivate strength, balance, and harmony. She explains how classical dressage training helps horses develop the muscular and mental fitness needed to carry two riders, which is central to their work with autistic children and other special-needs clients.A Community Effort and a Lifelong Mission (Starts at 41:20)Building Smiling Goat Ranch was a community-driven endeavor. Sheryl recounts how local organizations like Roaring Fork Leadership and University of Denver students helped her create internships, housing, and infrastructure that make the ranch a sustainable and welcoming environment for families and visitors.Horse Boy Inspiration (Starts at 52:45)Sheryl describes the life-changing moment she first encountered Rupert Isaacson's Horse Boy Method, witnessing its transformative impact on autistic children. This led her to train extensively with Rupert and incorporate Horse Boy principles into her ranch's programs. From using horses to teach subjects like math and geography to understanding the vital connection between humans and animals, Sheryl's philosophy blends evidence-based science with deep compassion and creativity.The Power of Belonging and Connection (Starts at 1:04:00)Smiling Goat Ranch provides more than therapy—it fosters a sense of community and belonging. Through internships, working student programs, and recreational therapy, the ranch creates opportunities for connection and growth, not just for its clients but for the broader community.Memorable Moments from the EpisodeSheryl explains how growing up with her pony Supreme and a veterinarian father shaped her deep connection to animals and their healing power.The story of James's autism diagnosis and how it inspired Sheryl to advocate for inclusivity and understanding in schools and beyond.The magic of Smiling Goat Ranch, where horses, goats, and even wildflowers play a role in the therapeutic process.The critical role of classical horsemanship in creating physically and emotionally balanced horses capable of supporting the ranch's unique therapy programs.How Smiling Goat Ranch's programs evolved to include not only equine therapy but also mountain sports, ranch work, and recreational therapy.Contact Sheryl

Many of us are familiar with the term "trauma informed' but Ellie Williams - a British therapist and horsewoman whose Equiteam practice is based in York, Pennsylvania, has accrued more than two decades experience of work in the field. With her tight knit team, she has been pioneering the field of equine assisted psychotherapy since before most of us even knew about the term - and with startlingly positive results. If this is an area of the equine assisted world that you are interested in exploring - and let's face it, many clients even if undiagnosed bring unhealed or unaddressed trauma to any practice, then listen on - Ellie Williams can mentor us all.Find Ellie's Program: Equiteam: https://equiteam.org/Find our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

Jane Faulkner is a household name, at least in Equine Assisted circles, down in Australia. And with good reason. Like many people who have come to the Equine Assisted world from an originally non horsy background, she has brought a therapist's perspective to our often overly horse-focussed field. Equine Assisted Therapy, Australia - Jane's organization - draws on her experience in nursing, and Gestalt therapy  - an approach to psychotherapy that helps clients concentrate on the present to understand what is actually happening in their lives at this moment and to help resolve conflicts both internally and with the world at large. She's also a yoga buff and discovered decades ago how movement and emotional and mental health are inextricably linked. Though a latecomer to horses, Jane dived in thoroughly - becoming a certified riding instructor and trail guide in Australia and gradually acquiring her own herd on the Gold Coast of Queensland.  But there is much, much more to her story than this - how travels in Europe and then into the dodgier areas of South America and further afield brought her face to face with conflict, how people from different cultures even within their own country often misunderstand each other, and how to bridge those gaps, and therefore how all of us often misunderstand ourselves and what to do about it. And how the horse, as ever, lends itself as a healer,  a mirror, a helper. So listen on, there is much to learn from Jane's story and the methodologies she has helped create.Find Jane's Programs: Equine Assisted Australia: https://equineassistedtherapyaustralia.com.au/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/equineassistedtherapyaustraliaInsta: https://www.instagram.com/equineassistedtherapyaustralia/Find our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

The Journey On Podcast and Summits have become something of a legend in conscious equestrian circles - and rightly so. Anyone who has tuned in to the vast array of talent that Warwick features in his in depth interviews ends up walking away with insights into themselves as well as into horses and how they interact with and assist humans, both in the practical and mental/spiritual realms. To those still new to Warwick, an Australian-born champion in the Western discipline of Reining, he made it to the World Equestrian Games before a pro-fund relationship with a particular horse changed his whole outlook on the horse and human relationship. What followed was a journey of self discovery that has led to exploration of therapy, neuroscience, psychadelics and shamanism as well as ever deeper dives into the horse and human interface. Recently returning from his latest challenge, the 500 mile Gaucho Derby in Argentina, Warwick tells us how it bumped him up against some of his own limitations - and how he got through to the other side.  Also we look at the upcoming Journey On Summit in Birmingham UK, happening August 1-4 2024, who the fascinating array of speakers are and what they have taught him so far. So, for those equine Assisted peeps out there, sit back and enjoy the listen as Warwick guides us further into how and why the outside of a horse is so good for the inside of a human.Register to the UK Summit now: https://summit.warwickschiller.com/?aff=RupertIsaacsonFind Warwick's Programs online: Horse Training Website: https://go.warwickschiller.com/membership-signupPodcast: https://warwickschiller.com/podcast/Journey on Summits 2024 in UK and USA https://summit.warwickschiller.com/?aff=RupertIsaacsonFind our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

Most of us in the equine assisted field are familiar with encountering skepticism - the inevitable "aren't you just giving kids pony rides?" attitude that can sometimes stand in the way of the field and its practitioners getting the recognition and therefore funding they deserve. Fortunately, in recent years there has been a massive uptick in the peer reviewed research into equine assisted modalities. Leading this field are Dr Ann Hemingway of Bournemouth University and her assistant researcher Kezia Sullivan. The results of some of their recent studies are frankly astonishing. For example, one study found that domestic violence, after just a 5 day equine intervention, went down a whopping 51% a year after the intervention was done. This points to major brain changes in those undergoing equine assisted interventions of all kinds. The rate that Dr. Hemingway and Ms. Sullivan are publishing is prolific, which is good news for all of us. So listen to what their latest studies have found and are finding - they are providing the kind of research sound bytes that we all need when talking to funders, education authorities, health services and the like. In addition, the two-woman team provides a service crunching data and producing studies on individual equine assisted organizations and methods. If you are looking to get your results proven in a peer reviewed study then you want to listen on. Go data?Contact Dr. Ann and Kez: ahemingway@bournemouth.ac.ukkeziasullivan@hotmail.co.ukkeziasullivan.co.uk Find our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

If you are in the Equine Assisted World and you have not yet hear of the Institute for Human and Animal Connection at Denver University, then you should. The institute - one of the first to really get academics behind the work we all do with horses and people (and not just horses) paved the way for real careers in the field, and through its research and collaborations had brought a much needed scientific legitimacy to what was once disregarded as mere 'playing with ponies'.At the helm of the Institute is the amazing Nina Ekolhm Fry. Originally from Finland - indeed from the minority of Swedish Speaking Finns, she grew up with horses in the northern European tradition but also began working early in her career with the Red Cross and humanitarian aid, so the combination of horses with compassion based healing work comes was established early on.Nina has a fascinating story - how she came to the usa and began exploring the many equine assisted programs on offer while developing programs at Prestcott College in Arizona and then at Denver, and helping to develop the field into a globally recognised therapeutic modality, including the work of HETI (Horses in education and Therapy International) in which she is a prime mover. So if you don't yet know her, meet Nina now, and you'll realise how much we all owe to her pioneering work, as how far - thanks to those like her - we have all come. Listen on.Contact Nina: nina.ekholm-fry@du.eduhttps://ihac.du.eduAlso mentioned in the podcast:Fran Jurga equine repository researchhttps://equineassistedresearch.com/Find our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

Linda Kohanov is a legend. A household name in the horse world and also for many of those interested in shamanism and myth, her bestselling books The Tao of Equus Riding Between The Worlds, Way of the Horse, The Power of the Herd and The Five Roles of a Master Herder have established her as a go to as a reference for the spiritual side of the horse and human connection. Her courses and lectures and method  Eponaquest, keep her busy nationally and internationally. But there is a lot more to Linda than that. her background as a musician, journalist, historian and music critic, as well as her deep inquiry into mythology have given her worldview that sees patterns where others might miss them, discerns structures and connections between seemingly disparate world and - in about as clear a way as one could wish for - sets a gold standard for self actualization: creating a life and career through ones passions that also serves and inspires others.  The world of equine assisted human development owes much to Linda as a pioneer, but her work has spilled over into the non equine mainstream of human development as well. Living in the Sonoran Desert near Tuscon, and opening her ranch to seekers of the horse human connection from around the world, Kohanov has a story that can inspire anyone from any walk of life seeking to self actualize through their interests, their passions, their heart. There is much to learn here as Linda takes us on a journey that gives us many clue as to how we too, might find our calling.Books mentioned:All of Linda's books listed on AmazonTao of EquusRiding between the WorldsWay of the HorseThe Power of the HerdThe 5 Roles of a Master HerderContact Linda:rasa@eponaquest.com Online courses: LindaKohanov.comWorkshops EponaQuest.com Epona Quest InstructorsFind our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

Anyone in the Equine Assisted World had heard of the legendary EAGALA program - perhaps the first organization to really bring the field out of the realm of purely therapeutic or adaptive raiding and into the realm of the neuro-psychiatric, at least on a level outside certain isolated mental health institutions.What many in the Equine Assisted fields may not know is that EAGALA was the brainchild of Lynn Thomas, a mental health professional who didn't know much about horses but who from a very young age, through being drafted into a series of outward bound programs for at risk youth, some of which had horses,observed the radically positive effect that nature, movement and horses, even when one didn't ride them, had on people.Here on Equine Assisted World Lynn recounts the fascinating story of how these early insights morphed into the EAGALA program and how that grew exponentially into the giant we know today. But then, as all innovators do - she pivots - creating two new programs that are no less fascinating . Arenas For Change - a new cutting edge approach to well being for the equine practitioners themselves, addressing the burnout that so often goes with the demands of this field. And Horses For Mental Health, which - get this - helps therapeutic equine programs tell their story and get both recognition and more crucially, funding.This podcast is also time sensitive, as if writing this, on December 15th 2023, Horses For Mental Health is calling for submissions from programs in need of having their stories told. If your program could use a helping hand, and whose doesn't, then perhaps you should listen all the way to the end..Contact Lynnhttps://horsesformentalhealth.orghttps://arenasforchange.comFind our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

That the Netherlands is a forward thinking country we can all agree – especially when it comes to matters of social welfare. Given that the country also helped give the world things that give great pleasure - like coffee, tulips, the Stock Exchange, New Amsterdam (New York City), not to mention liquorice, gouda cheese and gin (alright, there might have been a bit of a colonial process at work for some of these, but nonetheless…), its perhaps no surprise that all things equestrian-assisted, from straight up Therapeutic and Adaptive Riding to Equine Assisted Psychotherapy to other neuro-cognitive approaches, have been funded in the Netherlands on a state level for decades. It's also a country with a strong tradition in fine horsemanship. The Dutch Warmblood, the Gelderlander, the Frisian..'nuff said.Carola Beekman`s Maheo Program (meaning Proud in Polynesian), located in Arnhem, in the Eastern Netherlands, treads the line between cutting edge Equine Assisted Work for autism, trauma and neuro-cognitive work, and the use of the Old Masters System of Classical Dressage, especially the work in-hand and in the long reins, not just to keep her horses in optimum mind and body for the job, but also as its own therapy for her adult clients; training them to be horse trainers, maintainers and rehabbers.Carola's background goes beyond the equine and therapeutic however – for years she was a teacher in the regular school system and eventually got her principal's license, so teaching actual academics - maths, science, languages, all through the horses and her barn environment, is also part of the service at Maheo.Finally, where Carola has perhaps gained most of her experience, is through her own struggles with mental and emotional health. Rather than try to present herself as somehow perfect, she – in true honest Dutch fashion – is refreshingly open and frank about thee struggles and the insights they have given her, as we will learn.So listen on; Carola Beekman has a lot to teach us out here in the Equine Assisted World.Contact Carolahttps://www.carolabeekman.nl/https://movementmethod.nlCarola offers Horse Boy Method & Movement Method workshops. Find her at:https://ntls.co/horse-boy-method-trainers/Find our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

 In our world of Equine Assisted best practices, the subject of horse wellness and horse welfare is paramount. It stands to reason that for a horse to be able to transmit wellbeing to a human, then that horse must have wellbeing itself both in its body and in its mind. Too often we have seen old, often injured horses donated to therapeutic programs because they are quiet, and then these horses - because they receive no real care other than feeding, blanketing and , if they are lucky, turn out - become more and more sour, as they become stiffer and more in discomfort. This sourness often gets taken out directly on handlers and volunteers - biting, sly kicks, foot crushes and shoulder barges are a known feature of some of the more old0school therapy barns. Indirectly the horses also take out their discomfort on the differently abled and neurodiverse riders themselves by giving a ride that just doesn't feel good, sometimes resulting in those riders not wanting to continue. Now, in defense of this older school approach, there is no blaming or shaming here. Knowledge of horse welfare in previous generations was something of a specialist area. The upper level of, say, eventers or foxhunters understood fitness and soundness very well, but this knowledge didn't necessarily trickle down to other areas of the horse world. Similarly, a horse's need for free movement and a healthy, stable herd dynamic was understood in some quarters but not necessarily in others. The importance of lunging or long reining for topline muscle and in hand work for suppling, rehab and maintenance of horses is only just becoming something mainstream, as if basic horsemanship. So, the older school therapy stables with suffering horses came from a good-hearted place, wanting to offer a much-needed service to an underserved community. Its up to us, as practitioners, to keep the best practices moving forward. So, this is why it gives us great pleasure here at Equine Assisted World to be interviewing Sea Stewart, whose approach to Equine Cranio-Sacral work addresses so many issues of our horses' wellbeing. From the need to plentiful cerebral spinal fluid in the spinal chord and brain, to the need for supple and well hydrated fascia between the muscle groups, to the production of calming hormones for emotional well being, the work of Shea Stewart and those like her deeply informs our practice. Listen on - there is much of value here that can be applied in any of our barns. And as you'll find, just listening to Shea and her outlook in bio rhythms and happiness is a treat. Enjoy.People, Groups and books mentioned:Mauro Zappaterra MD:  Mauro Zappaterra obtained his MD and PhD degrees from Harvard Medical School. He completed his PhD doing work with neuronal stem cells and the effects of the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in brain development and in the adult. William Garner Sutherland: Grandfather of Cranio-sacral William Seifritz: Plant cell biologistBiodynamic Carnio Sacral Association of North AmericaMichael Kern UKBreath of Life ConferenceThe Cranio Sacral Podcast Ryan HallfordContact Sheahttps://www.equinebalance.net/ shea@equinebalance.netFind our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

It's not often that you get to chat with a neuroscientist. Still less often to chat with a neuroscientist that is also a doctor. Still less often to chat with a neuroscientist that is a doctor and also autistic. And less often still to chat with a neuroscientist who is also a doctor and also autistic and also a horseman. Finally, it's about a chance in a million, maybe more, to chat with a neuroscientist that is a doctor, is autistic, is a horseman and who is also a renowned horse trainer and published author on horse training and behaviour. Dr Stephen Peters is that man. His book, Evidence Based Horsemanship, is rapidly becoming something of a bible among those who would understand how their horse's brain and their human brain could best come together in working harmony. Of course, for those of us in the Equine Assisted World, whether we are practitioners, clients, or simply curious onlookers – or whether we are the horses upon whom the entire process depends – knowledge of the brain is key. If we are dealing with a physical issue, we first have to reach the person's brain before we can start that therapizing stuff. If we are working with neuro cognitive conditions, a basic working knowledge of the neuroscience of learning and cognition would seem essential – yet very few programs outside of Horse Boy Method offer this. If you are training and maintaining the therapy horse, understanding your own brain as well as, to some extent, that of your four-legged colleague would also seem to be an advantage. One day, the therapeutic approaches will hopefully begin to put neuroscience front and centre of their professional trainings. Axons, dendrites, myelination, BDNF and other neurotrophins, cerebral spinal fluid, the amygdala, cortisol, oxytocin and serotonin, the dance between the re frontal cortex and the rough emotional seas of the limbic system: it's a lot to navigate. So sit back, grab a pen, paper and beverage, and let Dr Stephen initiate you into the mysteries of that organ you work with every day; the noggin. Links and books mentioned:Evidence base horsemanship Martin Black and Dr. Steve Peters Courses with Dr. Steven Peters & Sarah Schlote course https://equuscience.com/Contact Dr. StephenHorsebrainscience.info Find our other shows and programs:https://rupertisaacson.com

Many of you have probably heard of Polyvagal Theory; it's a bit of a buzzword these days in the mental health community. But what is it exactly? And how does it relate to equine work? Well, who better to explain it to us than Dr Rebecca Bailey, co-founder of the Equine Polyvagal Institute in California. Dr Bailey, a longtime family therapist and also an equestrian, has a wealth of experience working with trauma and psychological conditions of all shapes and sizes. A leader in the field, she directed the Sonoma County Police Department's Youth and Family Services Program, trained psychologists and therapists for the Marin County DUI Program, founded Transitioning Families, which trains health practitioners to assist families going through crisis, and works with national organizations such as the National Center For Missing and Exploited Children. Her background speaks for itself.But along the way, Dr Bailey also became drawn to the work of renowned psychologist and neuroscientist Dr Stephen Porges, a professor of psychiatry at North Carolina University Chapel Hill, whose Polyvagal theory - which describes how our autonomic nervous system provides us with a range of ways to respond to the world around us, including traumatic or dangerous experiences - determines not just our state of the moment but also our general world view and therefore our behaviors and long term destiny. Understanding the Vagus Nerve, so called because is wanders all over the body and touches every organ, and three of its key functions can unlock cycles of thoughts and behaviors that don't serve us and can help us retrain our nervous systems and brains into ways that do. But how? Well, listen as Dr Bailey explains it in plain English that even Rupert can understand!It's not all science though. Dr Bailey also takes us on a fascinating personal journey through her background and work with horses and clients, some of whom faced situations most of us could not imagine surviving, her time with legendary counterculture rockers The Grateful Dead, her thoughts on altered states of consciousness, all wrapped up with plenty of humor.So buckle up, have your notebook handy and join us on a fascinating dive down the rabbit hole of the autonomic nervous system that is at once educational, informative, entertaining, and gives we Equine Assisted folks real, practical tips for how to bring this into our practice.Books mentioned:Equine Connection and Polyvagal  https://amzn.to/3XK84av Save Kids Smart ParentsPolyvagal in the courtroomAppeasementJC Dugard: A Stolen life https://amzn.to/3O5bqStMargie McDonald: Notes from the barn https://amzn.to/3O8lkms Contact Dr. Bailey: office@Polyvagalequineinstitute.comhttps://polyvagalequineinstitute.com/ Find our other Programs and Shows:https://RupertIsaacson.com 

Equine Assisted World was partly inspired by the work of an (until now) unsung heroine Terri Brosnan, of ChildVision in Dublin, Ireland. Coming into the field of therapeutic horsemanship later in life, after a three-pronged parallel career in sport horses, construction, and IT, Terri quickly noted the factionalism and rivalry within the world of Equine Assistance in general and realized that it was holding the field back, especially in terms of governmental and insurance recognition. But instead of just complaining about it, Terri did something about it, setting up the organization Equine Assisted Ireland to bring all of the modalities under one umbrella and presenting their results to the powers that be. This bore fruit, gaining funding from Ireland`s governing equine body - Horse Sport Ireland - to put together a training program for equine professionals from the sport horse world to orient themselves towards careers in the therapeutic and equine assisted field; the first such government funded initiative of its kind. Terri also used her geek side to dive into the world of neuroscience to help serve the 100 or so children a week that come to ChildVision with combinations of visual impairment, autism, cerebral palsy, chromosomal conditions and numerous other challenges...all done in a small arena next to a rugby field. Terri operates this cutting-edge program in the very center of Dublin, serving children that live in tenements and high rises. Join us on a fascinating journey - from Terri's childhood in Belfast during the Troubles, in which her family business was bombed, her neighborhood regularly shot up, and which trained her in conflict resolution, which has resulted in her bringing peace to the factions within the equine assisted field. Learn how later, in the green fields of Tipperary, under the mentorship of the legendary Croome-Carroll family, she absorbed the best of traditional Irish horsemanship and then dived deeper into classical lunging, long reining and in hand work to produce horses even in the inner city, so bursting with well bring that when she went to demo ChildVision`s methods at the Royal Dublin Show, people assumed her therapy horses were show horses and made multiple offers to buy them; testament to her philosophy that if a horse does not have well-being it cannot transfer well-being to a human. Terri also talks us through how her career as an construction engineer and IT guru led her to see the value of systems thinking, which she has applied to the cutting-edge work now being down at ChildVision - and how tribe and teamwork are the essential core of this. There aren't many out there like Terri Brosnan. Join us as we find out why. Organizations mentioned:International Association of Human Animal Interaction Organizations (IAHAIO) https://iahaio.org/  Horses in Education and Therapy International (HETI) https://hetifederation.org/  Equine Assisted Ireland https://www.facebook.com/EquineassistedIreland/ Notes: Magnocellular Pathways.—helps mapping for riders with visual impairmentsContact Terri terri@equigeek.com,terribrosnan@childvision.com terri@horse.ie ChildVision Dublin https://Childvision.com Find our other Programs and Shows:https://RupertIsaacson.com

Sometimes the cutting edge is not where you expect to find it. Way down in Birmingham, Alabama Joy O'Neal's Red Barn has quietly been creating technology to address the potent mix of neuro-psychiatric, emotional and physical challenges faced by children and families caught up in the foster care system. We use the word technology deliberately here – the word does not always mean simply mechanical or digital engineering; it also means the know how on a cellular level to provide human solutions for human dilemmas.Seeing first hand how the challenges of her own blended and special needs family responded to horses, Joy O'Neal, despite having had no horse background at all growing up in poverty in the Alabama backwoods, rose to the challenge of fulfilling the dream of a friend and riding mentor for her own family who wanted to make equine therapy available for people on low income. Perhaps the lack of horse background proved a strength here: Joy O'Neal set out to learn a range of equine and other healing approaches. With an unusual lack of prejudice, combining them into a potent cocktail of service that now serves as a beacon for effective and holistic equine therapy. Joy is also an advocate for women's heart health, having survived a near brush with death this way herself. And because of this knows that the most important thing is providing joy (pun intended) in every moment of every day. Or at least as much as circumstance will allow. Join us on a fascinating exploration on how Red Barn combines a number of new approaches to achieve well being not just for children and families but also for the horses that serve them. Remember to send us questions for Joy's follow up episode at podcast@longridehome.comYou can find out more about The Red Barn at www.theredbarn.orgLike always also check out our other programs and shows at www.RupertIsaacson.com and subscribe to our newsletter here.

Joell Dunlap runs Square Peg Foundation one of the most successful and pioneering equine assisted programs in North America. Starting with a simple idea: how could the quirky kids find a place in the world of riding as a sport when the world of dressage and hunter jumper barns can be so judgemental and unforgiving. She fell into creating programs for people with autism, ADHD, depression, eating disorders, and so on first with jumping, dressage and polo and then organically into therapeutic world, but without losing sight of helping them learn and excel as equestrians. The well-being of the equine partner is paramount at Square Peg and Joell is know for doing the impossible, taking off the track Thoroughbreds and putting them through the Old Masters system of training dressage from the ground with in hand work, long reining and lunging. The clients themselves become the horse trainers and end up often finding employment through this program which is now a registered health provision for San Mateo County, CA - aka Silicon Valley. It sounds like a slick path to success but Joell started as a teenage single mother of a child with learning challenges, working at the race tracks galloping two-year-olds in order to make ends meet. No silver spoon here. Her story provided her with the insights and compassion needed to work with challenged and at risk youth, including teenage sex-workers from San Francisco's notorious Tenderloin neighborhood, as well as putting together successful educational programs for kids, that no school would take. Her partnerships with renowned classical dressage trainers, such as the Valenca family from Portugal, Christian Bachinger of the Spanish Riding School and Dominique Barbier have brought her a recognition internationally that she has used to help establish programs as far afield as Europe and Asia. Join us for a fascinating discovery of how Square Peg Foundation makes all this work. And remember to subscribe and share. Find Joell at:Square Peg FoundationFacebookFind more about our programs and showsLive Free Ride Free PodcastNew Trails Learning SystemsLong Ride Home

In this the Pilot Episode of Equine Assisted World, our host Rupert Isaacson - known for Horse Boy Method, Movement Method and ATHENA - takes us through how the world of equine therapies has transformed itself in the last two decades from something aimed primarily at physical disability and adaptive riding, to the current mosaic of approaches for neuro-psychiatric, emotional, clinical, and medical conditions. What are the best practices? How can we identify them? How do we navigate this increasingly complex world through it's exciting and sometimes confusing development?Rupert also tells the story of how he himself became involved in the equine assisted world, primarily through the journeys on horseback with his autistic son. That led to his own exploration of how horses can heal neuro-psychiatric challenges. We also look ahead to some of the exiting figures that we will be interviewing in this first season. Join us for this Pilot and remember to subscribe and share!