Podcasts about Exit planning

What does it take to keep a family business thriving for generations? In this episode of Unstoppable Mindset, I talk with Jan Southern, a seasoned business advisor who helps family-owned companies build long-term success through structure, trust, and clarity. We explore why so many family firms lose their way by the third generation—and what can be done right now to change that story. Jan shares how documenting processes, empowering people, and aligning goals can turn complexity into confidence. We unpack her “Three Ps” framework—People, Process, and Product—and discuss how strong leadership, accountability, and smart AI adoption keep growth steady and sustainable. If you've ever wondered what separates businesses that fade from those that flourish, this conversation will show you how to turn structure into freedom and process into legacy. Highlights: 00:10 – Why unexpected stories reveal how real businesses grow. 01:39 – How early life in Liberal, Kansas shaped a strong work ethic. 07:51 – What a 10,000 sq ft HQ build-out teaches about operations. 09:35 – How a trading floor was rebuilt in 36 hours and why speed matters. 11:21 – Why acquisitions fail without tribal knowledge and culture continuity. 13:19 – What Ferguson Alliance does for mid-market family businesses. 14:08 – Why many family firms don't make it to the third generation. 17:33 – How the 3 Ps—people, process, product—create durable growth. 20:49 – Why empowerment and clear decision rights prevent costly delays. 33:02 – The step-by-step process mapping approach that builds buy-in. 36:41 – Who should sponsor change and how to align managers. 49:36 – Why process docs and succession planning start on day one. 56:21 – Realistic timelines: six weeks to ninety days and beyond. 58:19 – How referrals expand projects across departments. About the Guest: With over 40 years of experience in the realm of business optimization and cost-effective strategies, Jan is a seasoned professional dedicated to revolutionizing company efficiency. From collaborating with large corporations encompassing over 1,000 employees to small 2-person offices, Jan's expertise lies in meticulously analyzing financials, processes, policies and procedures to drive enhanced performance. Since joining Ferguson Alliance in 2024, Jan has become a Certified Exit Planning Advisor and is currently in the process of certification in Artificial Intelligence Consulting and Implementation, adding to her ability to quickly provide businesses with an assessment and tools that will enhance their prosperity in today's competitive landscape. Jan's forte lies in crafting solutions that align with each client's vision, bolstering their bottom line and staffing dynamics. Adept in setting policies that align with company objectives, Jan is renowned for transforming challenges into opportunities for growth and longevity. With a knack for unraveling inefficiencies and analyzing net income, Jan is a go-to expert for family-owned businesses looking to extend their legacy into future generations. Ways to connect with Jan: Email address : Jan@Ferguson-Alliance.com Phone: 713 851 2229 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jansouthern cepa Website: https://ferguson alliance.com About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! 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The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, hi everyone. I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. But the neat thing about it is we don't usually deal with inclusion or diversity. We deal with everything, but that because people come on this podcast to tell their own stories, and that's what we get to do today with Jan southern not necessarily anything profound about inclusion or diversity, but certainly the unexpected. And I'm sure we're going to figure out how that happens and what's unexpected about whatever I got to tell you. Before we started, we were just sitting here telling a few puns back and forth. Oh, well, we could always do that, Jan, well, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're here. Thank you so much. Glad to be here. Any puns before we start?   Jan Southern ** 02:09 No, I think we've had enough of those. I think we did it   Michael Hingson ** 02:11 in, huh? Yes. Well, cool. Well, I want to thank you for being here. Jan has been very actively involved in a lot of things dealing with business and helping people and companies of all sizes, companies of all sizes. I don't know about people of all sizes, but companies of all sizes in terms of becoming more effective and being well, I'll just use the term resilient, but we'll get into that. But right now, let's talk about the early Jan. Tell us about Jan growing up and all that sort of stuff that's always fun to start with.   Jan Southern ** 02:50 Yes, I grew up in Liberal Kansas, which is a small town just north of the Oklahoma border and a little bit east of New Mexico kind of down in that little Four Corners area. And I grew up in the time when we could leave our house in the morning on the weekends and come home just before dusk at night, and our parents didn't panic, you know. So it was a good it was a good time growing up. I i lived right across the street from the junior high and high school, so I had a hugely long walk to work, I mean,   Michael Hingson ** 03:28 to school,   Jan Southern ** 03:30 yeah, and so, you know, was a, was a cheerleader in high school, and went to college, then at Oklahoma State, and graduated from there, and here I am in the work world. I've been working since I was about 20 years old, and I'd hate to tell you how many years that's been.   Michael Hingson ** 03:51 You can if you want. I won't tell   03:55 nobody will know.   Michael Hingson ** 03:57 Good point. Well, I know it's been a long time I read your bio, so I know, but that's okay. Well, so when you What did you major in in college psychology? Ah, okay. And did you find a bachelor's degree or just bachelor's   Jan Southern ** 04:16 I did not. I got an Mrs. Degree and had two wonderful children and grew up, they've grown up and to become very fine young men with kids of their own. So I have four grandchildren and one great grandchild, so   Michael Hingson ** 04:33 Wowie Zowie, yeah, that's pretty cool. So when you left college after graduating, what did you do?   Jan Southern ** 04:40 I first went to work in a bank. My ex husband was in pharmacy school at Oklahoma, State University of Oklahoma, and so I went to work in a bank. I was the working wife while he went to pharmacy school. And went to work in a bank, and years later, became a bank consultant. So we we lived in Norman, Oklahoma until he was out of school and and as I began having children during our marriage, I went to work for a pediatrician, which was very convenient when you're trying to take care of kids when they're young.   Michael Hingson ** 05:23 Yeah, and what did you What did you do for a pediatrician?   Jan Southern ** 05:27 I was, I was her receptionist, and typed medical charts, so I learned a lot about medicine. Was very she was head of of pediatrics at a local hospital, and also taught at the university. And so I got a great education and health and well being of kids. It was, it was a great job.   Michael Hingson ** 05:51 My my sister in law had her first child while still in high school, and ended up having to go to work. She went to work for Kaiser Permanente as a medical transcriber, but she really worked her way up. She went to college, got a nursing degree, and so on, and she became a nurse. And eventually, when she Well, she didn't retire, but her last job on the medical side was she managed seven wards, and also had been very involved in the critical care unit. Was a nurse in the CCU for a number of years. Then she was tasked. She went to the profit making side of Kaiser, as it were, and she was tasked with bringing paperless charts into Kaiser. She was the nurse involved in the team that did that. So she came a long way from being a medical transcriber.   Jan Southern ** 06:51 Well, she came a long way from being a single mom in high school. That's a great story of success.   Michael Hingson ** 06:56 Well, and she wasn't totally a single mom. She she and the guy did marry, but eventually they they did divorce because he wasn't as committed as he should be to one person, if it were,   Speaker 1 ** 07:10 that's a familiar story. And he also drank and eventually died of cirrhosis of the liver. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah, that's always sad, but, you know, but, but she coped, and her her kids cope. So it works out okay. So you went to work for a pediatrician, and then what did you do?   Jan Southern ** 07:31 Well, after my husband, after he graduated, was transferred to Dallas, and I went to work for a company gardener, Denver company at the time, they've been since purchased by another company. And was because of my experience in banking prior to the pediatrician, I went to work in their corporate cash management division, and I really enjoyed that I was in their corporate cash management for their worldwide division, and was there for about four years, and really enjoyed it. One of my most exciting things was they were moving their headquarters from Quincy, Illinois down to Dallas. And so I had been hired. But since they were not yet in Dallas, I worked with a gentleman who was in charge of putting together their corporate offices. And so we made all the arrangements. As far as we had a got a 10,000 square foot blank space when we started. And our job was to get every desk, every chair, every pen and pencil. And so when somebody moved from Quincy, Illinois, they moved in and they had their desk all set up. Their cuticles were cubicles were ready to go and and they were they could hit the ground running day one, so that,   Michael Hingson ** 09:02 so you, you clearly really got into dealing with organization, I would would say, then, wouldn't, didn't you?   Jan Southern ** 09:11 Yes, yes, that was my, probably my first exposure to to the corporate world and learning exactly how things could be more efficient, more cost effective. And I really enjoyed working for that company.   Michael Hingson ** 09:30 I remember, after September 11, we worked to provide the technology that we were selling, but we provided technology to Wall Street firms so they could recover their data and get set up again to be able to open the stock exchange and all the trading floors on the 17th of September. So the next Monday. And it was amazing, one of the companies was, I think it was Morgan Stanley. Finally and they had to go find new office space, because their office space in the World Trade Center was, needless to say, gone. They found a building in Jersey City that had a floor, they said, about the size of a football field, and from Friday night to Sunday afternoon, they said it took about 36 hours. They brought in computers, including IBM, taking computers from some of their own people, and just bringing them into to Morgan Stanley and other things, including some of the technology that we provided. And within 36 hours, they had completely reconstructed a trading floor. That's amazing. It was, it was absolutely amazing to see that. And you know, for everyone, it was pretty crazy, but Wall Street opened on the 17th and and continued to survive.   Jan Southern ** 10:57 That's a great story.   Michael Hingson ** 10:59 So what did you do? So you did this, this work with the 10,000 square foot space and other things like that. And then what?   Jan Southern ** 11:08 Well, once, once everyone moved into the space in Dallas. Then I began my work in their in their corporate cash management area. And from there, my next job was working in a bank when my my husband, then was transferred back to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and I went back to work in banking. And from that bank, I was there about three to four years, and I was hired then by John Floyd as a as a consultant for banks and credit unions, and I was with that company for 42 years. My gosh, I know that's unusual these days, but I really enjoyed what I did. We did re engineering work and cost effectiveness and banks and credit unions for those 42 years. And so that was where I really cut my teeth on process improvement and continuous improvement, and still in that industry. But their company was bought by a an equity firm. And of course, when that happens, they like to make changes and and bring in their own folks. So those of us who had been there since day one were no longer there.   Michael Hingson ** 12:26 When did that happen?   Jan Southern ** 12:27 That was in 2022   Michael Hingson ** 12:32 so it's interesting that companies do that they always want to bring in their own people. And at least from my perspective, it seems to me that they forget that they lose all the tribal knowledge that people who have been working there have that made the company successful   Jan Southern ** 12:51 Absolutely. So I guess they're still doing well, and they've done well for themselves afterwards, and but, you know, they do, they lose all the knowledge, they lose all of the continuity with the clients. And it's sad that they do that, but that's very, very common.   Michael Hingson ** 13:13 Yeah, I know I worked for a company that was bought by Xerox, and all the company wanted was our technology. All Xerox wanted was the technology. And they lost all of the knowledge that all the people with sales experience and other kinds of experiences brought, because they terminated all of us when the company was fully in the Xerox realm of influence.   Jan Southern ** 13:39 So you know what I went through? Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 13:42 Well, what did you do after you left that company? After you left John Floyd,   Jan Southern ** 13:47 I left John Floyd, I was under a I was under a non compete, so I kind of knocked around for a couple of years. I was of age where I could have retired, but I wasn't ready to. So then I found Ferguson Alliance, and I'm now a business advisor for family owned businesses, and so I've been with Ferguson just over a year, and doing the same type of work that I did before. In addition to that, I have become a certified Exit Planning advisor, so that I can do that type of work as well. So that's that's my story in a nutshell. As far as employment,   Michael Hingson ** 14:26 what is Ferguson Alliance?   Jan Southern ** 14:29 Ferguson Alliance, we are business advisors for family owned businesses. And the perception is that a family owned business is going to be a small business, but there are over 500,000 family owned businesses in the United States. Our market is the middle market, from maybe 50 employees up to 1000 20 million in revenues, up to, you know, the sky's the limit, and so we do. Do a lot of work as far as whatever can help a family owned business become more prosperous and survive into future generations. It's a sad statistic that most family owned businesses don't survive into the third generation.   Michael Hingson ** 15:16 Why is that?   Jan Southern ** 15:19 I think because they the first the first generation works themselves, their fingers to the bone to get their their business off the ground, and they get successful, and their offspring often enjoy, if you will, the fruits of the labors of their parents and so many of them, once they've gone to college, they don't have an interest in joining the firm, and so they go on and succeed on their own. And then their children, of course, follow the same course from from their work. And so that's really, I think, the primary reason, and also the the founders of the businesses have a tendency to let that happen, I think. And so our coaching programs try to avoid that and help them to bring in the second and third generations so that they can, you know, they can carry on a legacy of their parents or the founders.   Michael Hingson ** 16:28 So what do you do, and what kinds of initiatives do you take to extend the longevity of a family owned business then,   Jan Southern ** 16:39 well, the first thing is that that Rob, who's our founder of our family owned business, does a lot of executive coaching and helps the helps the people who are within the business, be it the founder or being at their second or third generations, and he'll help with coaching them as to how to, hey, get past the family dynamics. Everybody has their own business dynamics. And then you add on top of that, the family dynamics, in addition to just the normal everyday succession of a business. And so we help them to go through those types of challenges, if you will. They're not always a challenge, but sometimes, if there are challenges, Rob's coaching will take them through that and help them to develop a succession plan that also includes a document that says that that governance plan as to how their family business will be governed, in addition to just a simple succession plan, and my role in a lot of that is to make sure that their business is ready to prosper too. You know that their their assessment of as far as whether they're profitable, whether they are their processes are in place, etc, but one of the primary things that we do is to help them make certain that that if they don't want to survive into future generations, that we help them to prepare to either pass it along to a family member or pass it along to someone who's a non family member, right?   Michael Hingson ** 18:34 So I've heard you mentioned the 3p that are involved in extending longevity. Tell me about that. What are the three P's?   Jan Southern ** 18:41 Well, the first p is your people. You know, if you don't take care of your people, be they family members or non family members, then you're not going to be very successful. So making certain that you have a system in place, have a culture in place that takes care of your people. To us, is very key. Once you make sure that your people are in a culture of continuous improvement and have good, solid foundation. In that regard, you need to make sure that your processes are good. That's the second P that that you have to have your processes all documented, that you've authorized your people to make decisions that they don't always have to go to somebody else. If you're a person in the company and you recognize that something's broken, then you need to have empowerment so that your people can make decisions and not always have to get permission from someone else to make certain that those processes continuously are approved improved. That's how to you. Could have became so successful is they installed a product. They called it, I say, a product. They installed a culture. They called it kaizen. And so Kaizen was simply just continuous improvement, where, if you were doing a process and you ask yourself, why did I do it this way? Isn't there a better way? Then, you know, you're empowered to find a better way and to make sure that that that you can make that decision, as long as it fits in with the culture of the company. Then the third P is product. You know, you've got to have a product that people want. I know that you've seen a lot of companies fail because they're pushing a product that nobody wants. And so you make certain that your products are good, your products are good, high quality, and that you can deliver them in the way that you promise. And so those are really the 3p I'd like to go back to process and just kind of one of the things, as you know, we had some horrendous flooding here in Texas recently, and one of the things that happened during that, and not that it was a cause of it, but just one of the things that exacerbated the situation, is someone called to say, Please, we need help. There's flooding going on. It was one of their first responders had recognized that there was a tragic situation unfolding, and when he called into their system to give alerts, someone says, Well, I'm going to have to get approval from my supervisor, with the approval didn't come in time. So what's behind that? We don't know, but that's just a critical point as to why you should empower your people to make decisions when, when it's necessary.   Michael Hingson ** 21:56 I'm sure, in its own way, there was some of that with all the big fires out here in California back in January, although part of the problem with those is that aircraft couldn't fly for 36 hours because the winds were so heavy that there was just no way that the aircraft could fly. But you got to wonder along the way, since they are talking about the fact that the electric companies Southern California, Edison had a fair amount to do with probably a lot a number of the fires igniting and so on, one can only wonder what might have happened if somebody had made different decisions to better prepare and do things like coating the wires so that if they touch, they wouldn't spark and so on that they didn't do. And, you know, I don't know, but one can only wonder.   Jan Southern ** 22:53 It's hard to know, you know, and in our situation, would it have made any difference had that person been able to make a decision on her own? Yeah, I was moving so rapidly, it might not have made any any difference at all, but you just have to wonder, like you said,   Michael Hingson ** 23:10 yeah, there's no way to, at this point, really know and understand, but nevertheless, it is hopefully something that people learn about for the future, I heard that they're now starting to coat wires, and so hopefully that will prevent a lot, prevent a lot of the sparking and so on. I'd always thought about they ought to put everything underground, but coating wire. If they can do that and do it effectively, would probably work as well. And that's, I would think, a lot cheaper than trying to put the whole power grid underground.   Jan Southern ** 23:51 I would think so we did when I was with my prior company. We did a project where they were burying, they were putting everything underground, and Burlington Vermont, and it was incredible what it takes to do that. I mean, you just, we on the outside, just don't realize, you know, there's a room that's like 10 by six underground that carries all of their equipment and things necessary to do that. And I never realized how, how costly and how difficult it was to bury everything. We just have the impression that, well, they just bury this stuff underground, and that's all. That's all it takes. But it's a huge, huge undertaking in order to do that   Michael Hingson ** 24:36 well. And it's not just the equipment, it's all the wires, and that's hundreds and of miles and 1000s of miles of cable that has to be buried underground, and that gets to be a real challenge.   Jan Southern ** 24:47 Oh, exactly, exactly. So another story about cables. We were working in West Texas one time on a project, and we're watching them stretch the. Wiring. They were doing some internet provisioning for West Texas, which was woefully short on in that regard, and they were stringing the wire using helicopters. It was fascinating, and the only reason we saw that is it was along the roadways when we were traveling from West Texas, back into San Antonio, where flights were coming in and out of so that was interesting to watch.   Michael Hingson ** 25:28 Yeah, yeah. People get pretty creative. Well, you know, thinking back a little bit, John Floyd must have been doing something right to keep you around for 42 years.   Jan Southern ** 25:40 Yes, they did. They were a fabulous country company and still going strong. I think he opened in 1981 it's called advantage. Now, it's not John Floyd, but Right, that was a family owned business. That's where I got to cut my teeth on the dynamics of a family owned business and how they should work and how and his niece is one of the people that's still with the company. Whether, now that they're owned by someone else, whether she'll be able to remain as they go into different elements, is, is another question. But yeah, they were, they were great.   Michael Hingson ** 26:20 How many companies, going back to the things we were talking about earlier, how many companies when they're when they buy out another company, or they're bought out by another company, how many of those companies generally do succeed and continue to grow? Do you have any statistics, or do more tend not to than do? Or   Jan Southern ** 26:40 I think that more tend to survive. They tend to survive, though, with a different culture, I guess you would say they they don't retain the culture that they had before. I don't have any firm statistics on that, because we don't really deal with that that much, but I don't they tend to survive with it, with a the culture of the newer company, if they fold them in, yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 27:15 Well, and the reality is to be fair, evolution always takes place. So the John Floyd and say, 2022 wasn't the same as the John Floyd company in 1981   Jan Southern ** 27:31 not at all. No, exactly, not at all.   Michael Hingson ** 27:34 So it did evolve, and it did grow. And so hopefully, when that company was absorbed elsewhere and with other companies, they they do something to continue to be successful, and I but I think that's good. I know that with Xerox, when it bought Kurzweil, who I worked for, they were also growing a lot and so on. The only thing is that their stock started to drop. I think that there were a number of things. They became less visionary, I think is probably the best way to put it, and they had more competition from other companies developing and providing copiers and other things like that. But they just became less visionary. And so the result was that they didn't grow as much as probably they should have.   Jan Southern ** 28:28 I think that happens a lot. Sometimes, if you don't have a culture of continuous improvement and continuous innovation, which maybe they didn't, I'm not that familiar with how they move forward, then you get left behind. You know, I'm I'm in the process right now, becoming certified in artificial intelligent in my old age. And the point that's made, not by the company necessarily that I'm studying with, but by many others, is there's going to be two different kinds of companies in the future. There's going to be those who have adopted AI and those who used to be in business. And I think that's probably fair.   Michael Hingson ** 29:13 I think it is. And I also we talked with a person on this podcast about a year ago, or not quite a year ago, but, but he said, AI will not replace anyone's jobs. People will replace people's jobs with AI, but they shouldn't. They shouldn't eliminate anyone from the workforce. And we ended up having this discussion about autonomous vehicles. And the example that he gave is, right now we have companies that are shippers, and they drive product across the country, and what will happen to the drivers when the driving process becomes autonomous and you have self driving vehicles, driving. Across country. And his point was, what they should do, what people should consider doing is not eliminating the drivers, but while the machine is doing the driving, find and give additional or other tasks to the drivers to do so they can continue to be contributors and become more efficient and help the company become more efficient, because now you've got people to do other things than what they were used to doing, but there are other things that AI won't be able to do. And I thought that was pretty fascinating,   Jan Southern ** 30:34 exactly. Well, my my nephew is a long haul truck driver. He owns a company, and you know, nothing the AI will never be able to observe everything that's going on around the trucking and and you know, there's also the some of the things that that driver can do is those observations, plus they're Going to need people who are going to program those trucks as they are making their way across the country, and so I'm totally in agreement with what your friend said, or your you know, your guests had to say that many other things,   Michael Hingson ** 31:15 yeah, and it isn't necessarily even relating to driving, but there are certainly other things that they could be doing to continue to be efficient and effective, and no matter how good the autonomous driving capabilities are, it only takes that one time when for whatever reason, the intelligence can't do it, that it's good To have a driver available to to to to help. And I do believe that we're going to see the time when autonomous vehicles will be able to do a great job, and they will be able to observe most of all that stuff that goes on around them. But there's going to be that one time and that that happens. I mean, even with drivers in a vehicle, there's that one time when maybe something happens and a driver can't continue. So what happens? Well, the vehicle crashes, or there's another person to take over. That's why we have at least two pilots and airplanes and so on. So right, exactly aspects of it,   Jan Southern ** 32:21 I think so I can remember when I was in grade school, they showed us a film as to what someone's vision of the country was, and part of that was autonomous driving, you know. And so it was, it was interesting that we're living in a time where we're beginning to see that, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 32:41 we're on the cusp, and it's going to come. It's not going to happen overnight, but it will happen, and we're going to find that vehicles will be able to drive themselves. But there's still much more to it than that, and we shouldn't be in too big of a hurry, although some so called profit making. People may decide that's not true, to their eventual chagrin, but we shouldn't be too quick to replace people with technology totally   Jan Southern ** 33:14 Exactly. We have cars in I think it's Domino's Pizza. I'm not sure which pizza company, but they have autonomous cars driving, and they're cooking the pizza in the back oven of the car while, you know, while it's driving to your location, yeah, but there's somebody in the car who gets out of the car and brings the pizza to my door.   Michael Hingson ** 33:41 There's been some discussion about having drones fly the pizza to you. Well, you know, we'll see,   Jan Southern ** 33:50 right? We'll see how that goes. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 33:53 I haven't heard that. That one is really, pardon the pun, flown well yet. But, you know, we'll see. So when you start a process, improvement process program, what are some of the first steps that you initiate to bring that about? Well, the first   Jan Southern ** 34:11 thing that we do, once we've got agreement with their leadership, then we have a meeting with the people who will be involved, who will be impacted, and we tell them all about what's happening, what's going to happen, and make certain that they're in full understanding. And you know, the first thing that you ever hear when you're saying that you're going to be doing a re engineering or process improvement is they think, Oh, you're just going to come in and tell me to reduce my staff, and that's the way I'm going to be more successful. We don't look at it that way at all. We look at it in that you need to be right. Have your staff being the right size, and so in in many cases, in my past. I we've added staff. We've told them, you're under staffed, but the first thing we do is hold that meeting, make certain that they're all in agreement with what's going to happen, explain to them how it's going to happen, and then the next step is that once management has decided who our counterparts will be within the company. Who's going to be working with us to introduce us to their staff members is we sit down with their staff members and we ask them questions. You know, what do you do? How do you do it? What do you Did someone bring it to you. Are you second in line or next in line for some task? And then once you finish with it, what happens to it? Do you give someone else? Is a report produced? Etc. And so once we've answered all of those questions, we do a little a mapping of the process. And once you map that process, then you take it back to the people who actually perform the process, and you ask them, Did I get this right? I heard you say, this? Is this a true depiction of what's happening? And so we make sure that they don't do four steps. And they told us steps number one and three, so that then, once we've mapped that out, that gives us an idea of two of how can things be combined? Can they be combined? Should you be doing what you're doing here? Is there a more efficient or cost effective way of doing it? And we make our recommendations based on that for each process that we're reviewing. Sometimes there's one or two good processes in an area that we're looking at. Sometimes there are hundreds. And so that's that's the basic process. And then once they've said yes, that is correct, then we make our recommendations. We take it back to their management, and hopefully they will include the people who actually are performing the actions. And we make our recommendations to make changes if, if, if it's correct, maybe they don't need to make any changes. Maybe everything is is very, very perfect the way it is. But in most cases, they brought us in because it's not and they've recognized it's not. So then once they've said, yes, we want to do this, then we help them to implement.   Michael Hingson ** 37:44 Who usually starts this process, that is, who brings you in?   Jan Southern ** 37:48 Generally, it is going to be, depending upon the size of the company, but in most cases, it's going to be the CEO. Sometimes it's the Chief Operating Officer. Sometimes in a very large company, it may be a department manager, you know, someone who has the authority to bring us in. But generally, I would say that probably 90% of our projects, it's at the C   Michael Hingson ** 38:19 level office. So then, based on everything that you're you're discussing, probably that also means that there has to be some time taken to convince management below the CEO or CEO or a department head. You've got to convince the rest of management that this is going to be a good thing and that you have their best interest at heart.   Jan Southern ** 38:43 That is correct, and that's primarily the reason that we have for our initial meeting. We ask whoever is the contract signer to attend that meeting and be a part of the discussion to help to ward off any objections, and then to really bring these people along if they are objecting. And for that very reason, even though they may still be objecting, we involve them in the implementation, so an implementation of a of a recommendation has to improve, has to include the validation. So we don't do the work, but we sit alongside the people who are doing the implementation and guide them through the process, and then it's really up to them to report back. Is it working as intended? If it's not, what needs to be changed, what might improve, what we thought would be a good recommendation, and we work with them to make certain that everything works for them. Right? And by the end of that, if they've been the tester, they've been the one who's approved steps along the way, we generally find that they're on board because they're the it's now. They're now the owners of the process. And when they have ownership on something that they've implemented. It's amazing how much more resilient they they think that the process becomes, and now it's their process and not ours.   Michael Hingson ** 40:32 Do you find most often that when you're working with a number of people in a company that most of them realize that there need to be some changes, or something needs to be improved to make the whole company work better. Or do you find sometimes there's just great resistance, and people say no, there's just no way anything is bad.   Jan Southern ** 40:53 Here we find that 90% of the time, and I'm just pulling that percentage out of the air, I would say they know, they know it needs to be changed. And the ones typically, not always, but typically, the ones where you find the greatest resistance are the ones who know it's broken, but they just don't want to change. You know, there are some people who don't want to change no matter what, or they feel threatened that. They feel like that a new and improved process might take their place. You know, might replace them. And that's typically not the case. It's typically not the case at all, that they're not replaced by it. Their process is improved, and they find that they can be much more productive. But the the ones who are like I call them the great resistors, usually don't survive the process either. They are. They generally let themselves go,   Michael Hingson ** 42:01 if you will, more ego than working for the company.   Jan Southern ** 42:05 Yes, exactly, you know, it's kind of like my mom, you know, and it they own the process as it was. We used to laugh and call this person Louise, you know, Louise has said, Well, we've always done it that way. You know, that's probably the best reason 20 years in not to continue to do it same way.   Michael Hingson ** 42:34 We talked earlier about John Floyd and evolution. And that makes perfect sense. Exactly what's one of the most important things that you have to do to prepare to become involved in preparing for a process, improvement project? I think   Jan Southern ** 42:52 the most important thing there's two very important things. One is to understand their culture, to know how their culture is today, so that you know kind of which direction you need to take them, if they're not in a continuous improvement environment, then you need to lead them in that direction if they're already there and they just don't understand what needs to be done. There's two different scenarios, but the first thing you need to do is understand the culture. The second thing that you need to do, other than the culture, is understand their their business. You need to know what they do. Of course, you can't know from the outside how they do it, but you need to know that, for instance, if it's an we're working with a company that cleans oil tanks and removes toxins and foul lines from oil and gas industry. And so if you don't understand at all what they do, it's hard to help them through the processes that they need to go through. And so just learning, in general, what their technology, what their business is about. If you walk in there and haven't done that, you're just blowing smoke. In my mind, you know, I do a lot of research on the technologies that they use, or their company in general. I look at their website, I you know, look at their LinkedIn, their social media and so. And then we request information from them in advance of doing a project, so that we know what their org structure looks like. And I think those things are critical before you walk in the door to really understand their business in general.   Michael Hingson ** 44:53 Yeah, and that, by doing that, you also tend to. To gain a lot of credibility, because you come in and demonstrate that you do understand what they're doing, and people respond well to that, I would think   Jan Southern ** 45:10 they do. You know, one of our most interesting projects in my past was the electric company that I mentioned. There was an electric company in Burlington, Vermont that did their own electric generation. We've never looked at anything like that. We're a bank consultant, and so we learned all about how they generated energy with wood chips and the, you know, the different things. And, you know, there were many days that I was out watching the wood chips fall out of a train and into their buckets, where they then transferred them to a yard where they moved the stuff around all the time. So, you know, it was, it's very interesting what you learn along the way. But I had done my homework, and I knew kind of what they did and not how they did it in individual aspects of their own processes, but I understood their industry. And so it was, you do walk in with some credibility, otherwise they're looking at you like, well, what does this person know about my job?   Michael Hingson ** 46:20 And at the same time, have you ever been involved in a situation where you did learn about the company you you went in with some knowledge, you started working with the company, and you made a suggestion about changing a process or doing something that no one had thought of, and it just clicked, and everybody loved it when they thought about it,   Jan Southern ** 46:42 yes, yes, exactly. And probably that electric company was one of those such things. You know, when they hired us, they they told us. We said, We don't know anything about your business. And they said, Good, we don't want you to come in with any preconceived ideas. And so some of the recommendations we made to them. They were, it's kind of like an aha moment. You know, they look at you like, Oh my gosh. I've never thought of that, you know, the same I would say in in banking and in family businesses, you know, they just, they've never thought about doing things in a certain way.   Michael Hingson ** 47:20 Can you tell us a story about one of those times?   Jan Southern ** 47:24 Yes, I would say that if you're, if you're talking about, let's talk about something in the banking industry, where they are. I was working in a bank, and you, you go in, and this was in the days before we had all of the ways to store things electronically. And so they were having a difficult time in keeping all of their documents and in place and knowing when to, you know, put them in a destruction pile and when not to. And so I would say that they had an aha moment when I said, Okay, let's do this. Let's get a bunch of the little colored dots, and you have big dots and small dots. And I said, everything that you put away for 1990 for instance, then you put on a purple dot. And then for January, you have 12 different colors of the little dots that you put in the middle of them. And you can use those things to determine that everything that has a purple dot and little yellow.in the middle of that one, you know that that needs to be destructed. I think in that case, it was seven years, seven years from now, you know that you need to pull that one off the shelf and put it into the pile to be destructed. And they said, we've never thought of anything. It was like I had told him that, you know, the world was going to be struck, to be gone, to begin tomorrow. Yeah, it was so simple to me, but it was something that they had never, ever thought of, and it solved. They had something like five warehouses of stuff, most of which needed to have been destroyed years before, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 49:21 but still they weren't sure what, and so you gave them a mechanism to do that,   Jan Southern ** 49:27 right? Of course, that's all gone out the window today. You don't have to do all that manual stuff anymore. You're just, you know, I'd say another example of that was people who were when we began the system of digitizing the files, especially loan files in a bank. And this would hold true today as well, in that once you start on a project to digitize the files, there's a tendency to take the old. Files first and digitize those. Well, when you do that, before you get to the end of it, if you have a large project, you don't need those files anymore. So you know, our recommendation is start with your latest. You know, anything that needs to be archived, start with the newest, because by the time that you finish your project, some of those old files you won't even need to digitize, just shred them. Yeah, you know, it's, it's just little simple things like that that can make all the difference.   Michael Hingson ** 50:32 When should a family business start documenting processes? I think I know that's what I thought you'd say,   Jan Southern ** 50:40 yes, yes, that is something that is near and dear to my heart. Is that I would even recommend that you maybe do it before you open your doors, if potential is there, so that the day you open your business, you need to start with your documenting your processes, and you need to start on your succession planning. You know, those are the days that once you really start working, you're not going to have time. You know, you're going to be busy working every day. You're you're going to be busy servicing your customers, and that always gets pushed to the back when you start to document something, and so that's the time do it when you first open your doors.   Michael Hingson ** 51:29 So when we talk about processes, maybe it's a fair question to ask, maybe not. But what are we really talking about when we talk about processes and documenting processes? What are the processes?   Jan Southern ** 51:41 Well, the processes are the things that you do every day. Let's take as an example, just when you set up your your files within your SharePoint, or within your computer, if you don't use SharePoint, your Google files, how you set those up, a process could also be during your accounting, what's the process that you go through to get a invoice approved? You know, when the invoice comes in from the vendor, what do you do with it? You know, who has to approve it? Are there dollar amounts that you have to have approvals for? Or can some people just take in a smaller invoice and pay it without any any approvals? We like to see there be a process where it's approved before you get the invoice from the customer, where it's been approved at the time of the order. And that way it can be processed more more quickly on the backside, to just make sure that it says what the purchase order if you use purchase orders or see what your agreement was. So it's the it's the workflow. There's something that triggers an action, and then, once gets triggered, then what takes place? What's next, what's the next steps? And you just go through each one of the things that has to happen for that invoice to get paid, and the check or wire transfer, or or whatever you use as a payment methodology for it to go out the door. And so, you know what you what you do is you start, there's something that triggers it, and then there's a goal for the end, and then you fill in in the center,   Michael Hingson ** 53:38 and it's, it's, it's a fascinating I hate to use the word process to to listen to all of this, but it makes perfect sense that you should be documenting right from the outset about everything that you do, because it also means that you're establishing a plan so that everyone knows exactly what the expectations are and exactly what it is that needs to be done every step of the way,   Jan Southern ** 54:07 right and and one of the primary reasons for that is we can't anticipate life. You know, maybe our favorite person, Louise, is the only one who's ever done, let's say, you know, payroll processing, or something of that sort. And if something happens and Louise isn't able to come in tomorrow, who's going to do it? You know, without a map, a road map, as to the steps that need to be taken, how's that going to take place? And so that's that's really the critical importance. And when you're writing those processes and procedures, you need to make them so that anybody can walk in off the street, if necessary, and do what Louise was doing and have it done. Properly.   Michael Hingson ** 55:00 Of course, as we know, Louise is just a big complainer anyway. That's right, you said, yeah. Well, once you've made recommendations, and let's say they're put in place, then what do you do to continue supporting a business?   Jan Southern ** 55:20 We check in with them periodically, whatever is appropriate for them and and for the procedures that are there, we make sure that it's working for them, that they're being as prosperous as they want to be, and that our recommendations are working for them. Hopefully they'll allow us to come back in and and most do, and make sure that what we recommended is right and in is working for them, and if so, we make little tweaks with their approvals. And maybe new technology has come in, maybe they've installed a new system. And so then we help them to incorporate our prior recommendations into whatever new they have. And so we try to support them on an ongoing basis, if they're willing to do that, which we have many clients. I think Rob has clients he's been with for ever, since he opened his doors 15 years ago. So   Michael Hingson ** 56:19 of course, the other side of that is, I would assume sometimes you work with companies, you've helped them deal with processes and so on, and then you come back in and you know about technology that that they don't know. And I would assume then that you suggest that, and hopefully they see the value of listening to your wisdom.   Jan Southern ** 56:41 Absolutely, we find that a lot. We also if they've discovered a technology on their own, but need help with recommendations, as far as implementation, we can help them through that as well, and that's one of the reasons I'm taking this class in AI to be able to help our customers move into a realm where it's much more easily implemented if, if they already have the steps that we've put into place, you can feed that into an AI model, and it can make adjustments to what they're doing or make suggestions.   Michael Hingson ** 57:19 Is there any kind of a rule of thumb to to answer this question, how long does it take for a project to to be completed?   Jan Southern ** 57:26 You know, it takes, in all fairness, regardless of the size of the company, I would say that they need to allow six weeks minimum. That's for a small company with a small project, it can take as long as a year or two years, depending upon the number of departments and the number of people that you have to talk to about their processes. But to let's just take an example of a one, one single department in a company is looking at doing one of these processes, then they need to allow at least six weeks to for discovery, for mapping, for their people to become accustomed to the new processes and to make sure that the implementation has been tested and is working and and they're satisfied with everything that that is taking place. Six weeks is a very, very minimum, probably 90 days is a more fair assessment as to how long they should allow for everything to take place.   Michael Hingson ** 58:39 Do you find that, if you are successful with, say, a larger company, when you go in and work with one department and you're able to demonstrate success improvements, or whatever it is that that you define as being successful, that then other departments want to use your services as well?   Jan Southern ** 59:00 Yes, yes, we do. That's a very good point. Is that once you've helped them to help themselves, if you will, once you've helped them through that process, then they recognize the value of that, and we'll move on to another division or another department to do the same thing.   Michael Hingson ** 59:21 Word of mouth counts for a lot,   Jan Southern ** 59:24 doesn't it? Though, I'd say 90% of our business at Ferguson and company comes through referrals. They refer either through a center of influence or a current client who's been very satisfied with the work that we've done for them, and they tell their friends and networking people that you know. Here's somebody that you should use if you're considering this type of a project.   Michael Hingson ** 59:48 Well, if people want to reach out to you and maybe explore using your services in Ferguson services, how do they do that?   Jan Southern ** 59:55 They contact they can. If they want to contact me directly, it's Jan. J, a n, at Ferguson dash alliance.com and that's F, E, R, G, U, S, O, N, Dash alliance.com and they can go to our website, which is the same, which is Ferguson dash alliance.com One thing that's very, very good about our our website is, there's a page that's called resources, and there's a lot of free advice, if you will. There's a lot of materials there that are available to family owned businesses, specifically, but any business could probably benefit from that. And so those are free for you to be able to access and look at, and there's a lot of blog information, free eBook out there, and so that's the best way to reach Ferguson Alliance.   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:52 Well, cool. Well, I hope people will take all of this to heart. You certainly offered a lot of interesting and I would say, very relevant ideas and thoughts about dealing with processes and the importance of having processes. For several years at a company, my wife was in charge of document control and and not only doc control, but also keeping things secure. Of course, having the sense of humor that I have, I pointed out nobody else around the company knew how to read Braille, so what they should really do is put all the documents in Braille, then they'd be protected, but nobody. I was very disappointed. Good idea   Speaker 2 ** 1:01:36 that is good idea that'll keep them safe from everybody. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:39 Well, I want to thank you for being here, and I want to thank to thank all of you for listening today. We've been doing this an hour. How much fun. It is fun. Well, I appreciate it, and love to hear from all of you about today's episode. Please feel free to reach out to me. You can email me at Michael H i@accessibe.com or go to our podcast page. Michael hingson, M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I N, G, s, O, n.com/podcast, but wherever you're listening, please give us a five star rating. We value your thoughts and your opinions, and I hope that you'll tell other people about the podcasts as well. This has been an interesting one, and we try to make them all kind of fun and interesting, so please tell others about it. And if anyone out there listening knows of anyone who ought to be a guest, Jan, including you, then please feel free to introduce us to anyone who you think ought to be a guest on unstoppable mindset. Because I believe everyone has a story to tell, and I want to get as many people to have the opportunity to tell their stories as we can. So I hope that you'll all do that and give us reviews and and stick with us. But Jan, again, I want to thank you for being here. This has been a lot of fun.   Jan Southern ** 1:02:51 It has been a lot of fun, and I certainly thank you for inviting me.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:00 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. 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Have you ever wondered if golf courses actually make money — or if they're just expensive pieces of land? In this video, I answers a viewer's question about owning and selling a golf course, exploring how property value and business profit interact in the real world. From public and private courses to banquet operations and land development, you'll learn what really drives value in this unique industry. What you'll learn in this video: * Are golf courses profitable businesses or just land investments? * The difference between selling property and selling profit * How weather, seasonality, and debt affect golf course margins * Why private clubs and government courses skew the market * When land value exceeds business value — and what that means for owners * How to plan your exit or sale if you own a golf course -- Chapters 00:00 Intro 02:00 Viewer Question: Property vs. Profit 05:00 Understanding the Golf Course Business Model 07:30 Industry Size & Revenue Breakdown 10:00 Weather, Margins & Seasonality 12:40 Importance of Bars, Catering & Events 15:30 Story: The Failed Investor-Owned Golf Course 19:00 Public vs. Private vs. Government-Owned Courses 23:00 Why Some Golf Courses Lose Money 26:00 Property vs. Profit | What Are You Really Selling? 30:00 How to Value a Golf Course (EBITDA Multiples) 34:00 Real Case Study | Hidden Subsidies & Overhead 38:00 Golf Courses as Land Banks | Myth or Strategy? 42:00 Developer Example | When the Bank Owns the Course 46:00 Seasonality | North vs. South Economics 50:00 Key Takeaways for Golf Course Owners 54:00 Profit, Property & Exit Planning 58:00 Why Passion Can Mislead Golf Investors 01:02:00 Advice for Owners Near Retirement 01:06:00 How to Find Out What Your Golf Course Is Worth -- **** - Join David's email list so you never miss any new videos or important information or insights, RECEIVE 7 FREE GIFTS!!- https://www.DavidCBarnettList.com **** Do Business with David using these incredible internet links... - David's Blog where you can find hundreds of free videos and articles, https://www.DavidCBarnett.com - Book a call with David and let him help you with your project, https://www.CallDavidBarnett.com - Learn how to buy a successful and profitable business in a risk-controlled way https://www.BusinessBuyerAdvantage.com - Get help selling your business, https://www.HowToSellMyOwnBusiness.com - Get better organized in your business, https://www.EasySmallBizSystems.com - Learn to make better cash flow forecasts and write incredibly effective business plans from scratch!, https://www.BizPlanSchool.com - Learn to build an equity asset with insurance! visit https://www.NewBankingSolution.com -Did you sign up for an expensive Merchant Cash Advance for your business and now struggle to make the payments? Find out how you can negotiate your way out at https://www.EndMyMCA.com

Cameron is joined by Nate Collins, founder of Wealth Strategies of Raymond James and Certified Exit Planning Advisor (CEPA), and they discuss the complexities and emotional challenges of selling a business, particularly in the medical aesthetics field. They explore the motivations behind selling, the emotional aftermath, and the importance of planning for life after the sale. Nate shares his personal experiences and insights on the necessity of having a supportive team of advisors to navigate the exit process successfully. The conversation emphasizes the significance of pursuing personal wellbeing and finding purpose beyond financial success, ultimately guiding entrepreneurs to prepare for a fulfilling life post-exit.Exit Planning webinar on November 5: https://www.raymondjames.com/founderwealthstrategies/events/exit-planning-novListen In!Thank you for listening to this episode of Medical Millionaire!Takeaways:Selling a business can lead to emotional challenges and regrets.Financial independence does not guarantee personal fulfillment.It's crucial to have a plan for life after selling a business.Building a supportive team of advisors is essential for a successful exit.Pursuing personal wellbeing should start before the exit, not after.Finding purpose beyond financial success is vital for happiness.Many entrepreneurs feel lost after selling their business.Proper exit planning can prevent selling under duress.A successful exit requires aligning personal and business goals.Entrepreneurs should prioritize their health and community involvement.Unlock the Secrets to Success in Medical Aesthetics & Wellness with "Medical Millionaire"Welcome to "Medical Millionaire," the essential podcast for owners and entrepreneurs inMedspas, Plastic Surgery, Dermatology, Cosmetic Dental, and Elective Wellness Practices! Dive deep into marketing strategies, scaling your medical practice, attracting high-end clients, and staying ahead with the latest industry trends. Our episodes are packed with insights from industry leaders to boost revenue, enhance patient satisfaction, and master marketing techniques.Our Host, Cameron Hemphill, has been in Aesthetics for over 10 years and has supported over 1,000 Practices, including 2,300 providers. He has worked with some of the industry's most well-recognized brands, practice owners, and key opinion leaders.Tune in every week to transform your practice into a thriving, profitable venture with expert guidance on the following categories...-Marketing-CRM-Patient Bookings-Industry Trends Backed By Data-EMR's-Finance-Sales-Mindset-Workflow Automation-Technology-Tech Stack-Patient RetentionLearn how to take your Medical Aesthetics Practice from the following stages....-Startup-Growth-Optimize-Exit Inquire Here:http://get.growth99.com/mm/

Join Fletcher Brown (BEI), Nathan Merrill & Taylor Smith (Goodspeed Merrill), and the ENT crew as they unpack:✅ The 7-step exit planning process✅ Insider vs. outsider transitions✅ Building business value & legacy✅ Emotional readiness for life after ownership

Ready to take a deep dive and learn how to generate personal tax-free cash flow from your corporation? Enroll in our FREE masterclass here and book a call hereAre you building your business for today's profits—or for tomorrow's payday when you exit?Many entrepreneurs pour years of energy into growth but overlook the steps that make a company truly saleable. Financial blind spots, owner dependency, or poor succession planning can strip millions from a deal—or sink it entirely. The truth is, preparing for a profitable exit starts years before you ever plan to sell. We sat down with Karl Sigerist from the Shaughessy Group in this masterclass to answer shed some light on these issues. Whether you're five years out or just starting to think about succession, the choices you make now directly impact your valuation, your tax outcome, and your legacy.In this episode, you'll discover:Why inadequate financial statements can slash your valuation—and how to fix them before it's too late.How to reduce “key person risk” so your business runs smoothly without you at the helm.Smart tax and structuring moves that protect your wealth and make your company more attractive to buyers.Press play now to learn how to prepare your business for a profitable exit and secure the reward your hard work deserves.Discover which phase of wealth creation you are in. Take our quick assessment and you'll receive a custom wealth-building pathway that matches your phase and learn our CRA compliant tax optimized strategies. Take that assessment here.Canadian Wealth Secrets Show Notes Page:Consider reaching out to Kyle…taking a salary with a goal of stuffing RRSPs;…investing inside your corporation without a passive income tax minimization strategy;…letting a large sum of liquid assets sit in low interest earning savings accounts;…investing corporate dollars into GICs, dividend stocks/funds, or other investments attracting corporate passive income taxes at greater than 50%; or,…wondering whether your current corporate wealth management strategy is optimal for your specific situation.Building long-term wealth in Canada requires more than just growing a business—it means preparing for business succession with accurate financial records, compliance-ready systems, and a strong advisory team to maximize your business valuation and exit strategy. Many Canadian entrepreneurs face emotional attachment when planning a business sale, but with tax-efficient investing, RRSP optimization, and smart capital gains strategies, you can transform a saleable business into a cornerstone of your CanadReady to connect? Text us your comment including your phone number for a response!Canadian Wealth Secrets is an informative podcast that digs into the intricacies of building a robust portfolio, maximizing dividend returns, the nuances of real estate investment, and the complexities of business finance, while offering expert advice on wealth management, navigating capital gains tax, and understanding the role of financial institutions in personal finance.

In this episode, Patti Brennan and Eric Fuhrman break down the Value Acceleration Methodology they recently learned through the CEPA program. They share why most businesses don't sell for what owners expect, the critical role of intangibles like culture and customer relationships, and how business owners can unlock massive value by de-risking their companies. Whether you're a business owner, employee, or stakeholder, this conversation offers powerful insights into building long-term enterprise value.

Ready to discover a strategy for explosive business growth that few are talking about? In this episode of Predictable B2B Success, host Vinay Koshy speaks with Marty Fahncke, an accomplished marketer, mergers and acquisitions advisor, and serial dealmaker who has scaled businesses to over a billion dollars in revenue and executed more than $450 million in M&A transactions. Marty doesn't just talk about growth; he's lived it, transforming small startups into industry giants and navigating both the buy and sell sides of deals across diverse sectors, including SaaS, consumer goods, health & wellness, and e-commerce. In this conversation, Marty pulls back the curtain on how acquisitions can be the secret weapon for B2B companies grappling with longer sales cycles, rising marketing costs, and economic headwinds. You'll hear how even fierce competitors became powerful partners, what signals make companies ripe for acquisition, and the surprisingly creative ways businesses can fund deals without draining their cash reserves. If you've ever wondered how to turn risk into opportunity or scale your business through strategic acquisition, this episode will challenge your assumptions and spark your curiosity. Don't miss Marty's actionable insights that could change the way you think about growth! Some areas we explore in this episode include: Marty's Shift from Marketing to M&A: How Marty transitioned into mergers and acquisitions and his early experiences.Acquisition as a Growth Strategy: The advantages of scaling B2B businesses via acquisitions rather than just organic growth.Current B2B Challenges: Market headwinds such as longer sales cycles, increased costs, and economic uncertainty.Creative Deal Structuring: The necessity of creativity and risk-taking in structuring acquisition deals.Targeting Businesses for Acquisition: How to identify acquisition opportunities up and down the supply chain and beyond.Relationship Building for M&A: The importance of networking with vendors, customers, and partners to uncover opportunities.The Role of AI in Valuation: Effects of AI on the value—positively and negatively—of SaaS and other tech businesses.Acquisition Funding Options: Various non-cash funding strategies like seller financing and asset-based lending.Merging Company Cultures: Approaches to blending organizations post-acquisition for the best results.Exit Planning & Valuation Drivers: Preparing for a sale, maximizing business value, and focusing on profits over revenue.And much, much more...

If you're thinking about selling your online business, there's one part of the process that can make or break your deal: due diligence. Many sellers underestimate how important it is, and how much control they actually have over the process. In this week's podcast episode, Greg sits down with Ahmed Raza, founder of Rapid Diligence, to unpack the realities of due diligence and how sellers can prepare to maximize their exit. Ahmed starts by breaking down what due diligence really is and the steps sellers should take long before they go to market. He explains which diligence requests sellers can push back on, and the most common diligence myths and misconceptions. Ahmed shares how buyer habits have evolved over the past few years and how, in some cases, due diligence can actually help sellers negotiate a higher sale price. We also dive into due diligence success rates, negotiation strategies when diligence turns tricky, and the typical timeline sellers should expect as their business works its way through the due diligence process. If you're planning an exit, this episode will help you avoid costly surprises, protect your leverage, and position your business for a smoother, more profitable sale. Topics Discussed in this episode: What is due diligence, and how sellers should prepare for it (03:53) How due diligence changes over different business models (11:16) Analyzing key man risk and team diligence (17:33) Due diligence requests that sellers can push back on (26:14) Biggest due diligence myths and misconceptions (29:17) How buyer habits have changed over the last few years (34:26) When due diligence can help you sell your business for more  (39:08) Due diligence success rates (41:50) How to negotiate better deals and work around due diligence issues (46:07) How long the due diligence process takes on average (49:21) Mentions:  Empire Flippers Podcasts Empire Flippers Marketplace Create an Empire Flippers account Subscribe to our newsletter Rapid Diligence Sit back, grab a coffee, and get the insider's perspective on what really happens during due diligence.  

Send us a textMost business owners have heard of an IFA or a wealth manager. But what's a family office – and why is it a game-changer when preparing for a business exit?In this episode of Exit Insights, Darryl Bates-Brownsword is joined by Kevin Harrington to break down the real difference between IFAs, wealth managers, and private offices – and how Fabric brings together both business architecture and wealth strategy to support owners through every stage of exit preparation. You'll learn:Why traditional financial planning often falls short for business ownersThe unique challenges of first-generation business ownersHow Fabric weaves together business strategy and personal wealth to increase business valuation and reduce owner dependence If you want to maximise value and exit on your terms, this episode is for you.

The Biggest Challenges When Scaling a Business (and How to Overcome Them)Scaling a business is never easy—especially when you're also planning for an eventual exit. In this episode of ValuationPodcast.com, host Melissa Gragg talks with Mark Howley, seasoned CEO and strategist, about the biggest challenges business owners face when scaling and selling their companies.They cover everything from chasing growth vs. focusing on profits, using debt wisely, building management teams, preparing for due diligence, and knowing when it's time to sell. If you're a business owner aiming to grow beyond $1M to $10M in revenue or preparing for a sale, this conversation is packed with insights you can apply right now.Welcome to ValuationPodcast.com—your go-to resource for navigating the world of business growth and valuation. I'm Melissa Gragg, a financial mediator and business valuation expert in St. Louis, Missouri. In today's episode, I'm joined by Mark Howley, financial strategist, CEO, and podcast host of The Mark Howley Show. Mark built, scaled, and sold his company and now shares candid insights on the real challenges of scaling, preparing for sale, and building businesses with lasting value. Whether you're growing past the $1M mark, aiming for $10M+, or planning your exit, this conversation offers practical lessons every business owner needs.Topics Covered:How to avoid “growth traps” and focus on profitabilityThe right time to hire leadership and delegate controlWhy due diligence uncovers more than owners expectGood vs. bad debt in business growthThe emotional side of scaling and selling5 Key TakeawaysProfit over Growth Hype – Scaling isn't just about getting bigger; it's about sustaining profitability and making calculated moves.Focus Over Diversification – Owners often get distracted by chasing too many markets; success comes from doubling down on core strengths.Build a Team That Replaces You – A business dependent on the owner has little transferable value; scalability requires strong middle management.Prepare for Due Diligence Early – Clean books, accurate inventory, and separation of personal vs. business expenses are non-negotiable for a successful sale.Timing Your Exit Is Critical – The best time to sell is when growth is strong, systems are in place, and the future looks promising to buyers.Q&AsQ1: What is the biggest mistake business owners make when scaling?A: Many chase growth at all costs, spreading into too many markets. The smarter path is focusing on profitable niches and building operational systems before expanding.Q2: Why should owners prepare their business for sale even if they're not selling?A: Buyers want businesses that run without the owner. Pre-sale preparation—like clean financials, a strong team, and documented processes—makes a company more valuable and easier to run.Q3: How can small business owners use debt wisely?A: Debt is useful when tied to revenue-generating investments (like marketing or production capacity). It's dangerous when used for overhead, perks, or non-essentials.Q4: What surprises owners most during due diligence?A: The depth of scrutiny. Buyers dig into financials, inventory, tax returns, and operations. Personal expenses hidden in the business often reduce value dramatically.Q5: How do you know if it's time to sell your business?A: Compare the lump sum offer to expected profits over the next 5–10 years. If the offer provides greater certainty and value than holding, it's likely the right time.Connect with Mark Howley:https://www.themarkhowleyshow.com/Connect with Melissa:Melissa Gragg   https://www.valuationmediation.com/Support the show

In this episode of The Exit is Now podcast, host Scott Snider welcomes Jeff Armstrong, a seasoned entrepreneur and Partner at Cultivate Advisors through DriveValue.com. Together, they explore the pivotal role Cultivate Advisors plays in the exit planning ecosystem, offering strategies and insights that help business owners prepare for their next chapter. Jeff also shares how his own journey as a business owner has shaped his perspective and approach, bringing real-world experience to the clients he serves.Want to learn more? Go to: https://linktr.ee/theexitplanninginstituteConnect with Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-snider-epi/============================================SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-is-now-plan-accordingly-with-scott-snider/id1663050204Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0iXzdvQN1ApWPOk3rVytFR============================================CONNECT WITH SCOTT ON SOCIAL MEDIA   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Eh7TfhJHKRa5uc5R0uRgAFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Exit-Planning-Institute-608403729259835Website: https://exit-planning-institute.org#ExitPlanningInstitute #ScottSnider #Podcast============================================About Scott:Scott Snider is the President of the Exit Planning Institute (EPI) and the Operating Partner of Snider Premier Growth, a small family investment company.  At EPI, Scott is responsible for the strategic direction of the organization along with overseeing the company's operations and chapter development. Since joining EPI, Scott has expanded the organization regionally, nationally, and globally, providing a transformational educational experience to advisors from all specialties across the globe.Scott Snider is a nationally recognized industry leader, growth specialist, and lifetime entrepreneur.  Two of Snider's biggest talents: market penetration and rapid growth strategies. As the operational and strategic leader of EPI, Snider thrives on helping advisors learn how to educate clients, achieve market distinction, and deliver real results.

Thinking about selling your company someday? Most founders wait until it's too late to prepare their business for a clean, valuable exit.In this episode, I chat with Niraj Shah, M&A Advisor and 5x Founder, about what really makes a company exit-ready. We dig into mindset traps, deal-killers, and the simple actions you can take right now to set up your business for maximum value, whether you sell this year or ten years from now.

Cary Matthews, Adam Marshall, and Jonathan Bill on Guiding Family Businesses (Family Business Radio, Episode 68) On this episode of Family Business Radio, host Anthony Chen sits down with three leaders who specialize in helping family businesses grow, plan, and prepare for the future. Cary Matthews of Opal Partners Group draws on his Fortune 50 […] The post Cary Matthews, Adam Marshall, and Jonathan Bill on Guiding Family Businesses appeared first on Business RadioX ®.

In this episode of Poised for Exit, we are joined by Erik Gabrielson, co-founder of ProjectWe. Erik returns to the show to share how his firm is helping business owners and professional services leaders navigate one of the most disruptive forces of our time: artificial intelligence. The conversation begins with Erik's own journey of adopting AI in early 2023, when he and his team recognized its potential to transform not only their business, but also the way their clients operate.Together, Erik and Julie explore the opportunities and challenges of integrating AI into exit planning and business strategy. One of the biggest takeaways is that the real risk isn't choosing the wrong AI tools - it's avoiding the conversation altogether. Too many companies treat AI like just another software plug-in, and that's why implementations stall. Erik explains why success starts with people, trust, and careful planning, and how shifting your mindset to see AI as a teammate can unlock far greater potential.They also talk about how AI can take knowledge that usually lives with one owner and turn it into shared knowledge that strengthens the whole company. Relying too heavily on one person creates risk, but integrating AI can help reduce that dependency, and businesses that resist adoption may find themselves vulnerable when it comes to valuation.As the conversation unfolds, Julie and Erik share their collaboration on a new AI-powered application for exit planning, designed to help advisors scale their work, support more owners, and drive better outcomes.This episode is a must-listen for advisors and business owners who want to stay ahead of the curve and position themselves for long-term success.Curious where your business stands? Take the free Workforce & Technology Scorecard here Connect with Erik hereFind ProjectWe hereConnect with Julie Keyes, Keyestrategies LLCFounder, Consultant, Author, Pod-caster and Instructor

On this episode of The Dentist Money Show, Sara Stock from Stock Legal joins Ryan to discuss practical strategies for growing — and eventually exiting — a dental practice. Sara introduces the "crawl, walk, run" approach and how phantom equity can help test a partnership before committing to full ownership. They talk about why every purchase should start with a cost-benefit analysis and why smart exit planning can lead to a smoother, more profitable transition. You can view Sara Stock's full presentation here! Book a free consultation with a CFP® advisor who only works with dentists. Get an objective financial assessment and learn how Dentist Advisors can help you live your rich life.

In this episode of the Expert Network Team Podcast, we sit down with Geoff S. Eliason of SDR Ventures to unpack the current state of mergers & acquisitions, private equity, and the challenges facing business owners—especially baby boomers looking to exit.We cover:The $2 trillion wave of boomer-owned businesses that must transitionHow private equity is reshaping the M&A landscapeWhy raising money isn't the hard part—finding the right money isThe role of investment banks in preparing, valuing, and structuring dealsLessons for families and entrepreneurs planning succession or saleWhether you're a founder thinking about your eventual exit, an advisor guiding families, or just curious about the dynamics of buying and selling businesses today, this conversation is packed with insights.Geoff S. Eliason, PrincipalSDR Ventures geliason@sdrventures.comtel:720.221.9220 Expert Network team provides free consultations. Just mention that you listened to the podcast. Nathan Merrill, attorneyWorking with affluent families and entrepreneurs in implementing tax-efficient strategies and wealth preservationGoodspeed, Merrill(720) 473-7644nmerrill@goodspeedmerrill.comTaylor Smith, attorneyHelping affluent families build their legacy through complex estate planningGoodspeed Merrill(720) 512-2008tsmith@goodspeedmerrill.comwww.goodspeedmerrill.com Jeff Krommendyk, Insurance ExpertWorking with business owners and successful families in transferring riskOne Digital Insurance Agency(303) 730-2327jeff.krommendyk@onedigital.comKarl FrankFinancial planner helping a small number of successful families grow and protect their wealth and choose how they want to be taxedCERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™A&I Wealth Management(303) 690.5070karl@assetsandincome.comWebcasts, Podcasts, Streaming Video, Streaming AudioA&I webcasts, podcasts, streaming video, or streaming audios are provided free of charge solely for use by individuals for personal, noncommercial uses, and may be downloaded for such uses only, provided that the content is not edited or modified in any way and provided that all copyright and other notices are not erased or deleted.All webcasts, podcasts, streaming video, or streaming audios are subject to and protected by U.S. and international copyright laws and may not be sold, edited, modified, used to create new works, redistributed or used for the purpose of promoting, advertising, endorsing or implying a connection with A&I.A&I reserves the right, at any time and for any reason, to stop offering webcasts, podcasts, streaming video, or streaming audios and to stop access to or use of webcasts, podcasts, streaming video, or streaming audio and any content contained therein A&I shall not be liable for any loss or damage suffered as a result of, or connected with, the downloading or use of the webcasts, podcasts, streaming video, or streaming audios.A&I Wealth Management is a registered investment adviser that only conducts business in jurisdictions where it is properly registered, or is excluded or exempted from registration requirements. Registration as an investment adviser is not an endorsement of the firm by securities regulators and does not mean the adviser has achieved a specific level of skill or ability. The firm is not engaged in the practice of law or accounting.The information presented is believed to be current. It should not be viewed as personalized investment advice. All expressions of opinion reflect the judgment of the presenter on the date of the podcast and are subject to change. The information presented is not an offer to buy or sell, or a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell, any of the securities discussed. You should consult with a professional adviser before implementing any of the strategies discussed. Any legal or tax information provided in this podcast is general in nature. Always consult an attorney or tax professional regarding your specific legal or tax situation.

Selling your business isn't just about the top-line sale price; it's about how much you actually get to keep after taxes, debt payoff, and transition costs. In this Wise Money Spotlight, CFP®, CEPA Jared Moxness joins Mike to unpack the essentials of business exit planning. We cover when to start planning, how to prepare your business and yourself for the transition, the most common ways to sell, tax-efficient strategies to keep more of your proceeds, and how to turn the sale into a reliable retirement income stream.  Download our FREE 5-Factor Retirement guide: https://wisemoneyguides.com/    Schedule a meeting with one of our CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNERS™: https://www.korhorn.com/contact-korhorn-financial-advisors/ or call 574-247-5898.   Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/c/WiseMoneyShow Listen on podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/WiseMoney  Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/kotXK_5HHm4  Submit a question for the show: https://www.korhorn.com/ask-a-question/   Read the Wise Money Blog: https://www.korhorn.com/wise-money-blog/    Connect with us: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/WiseMoneyShow  Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wisemoneyshow/    Kevin Korhorn, CFP® offers securities through Silver Oak Securities, Inc., Member FINRA/SIPC. Kevin offers advisory services through KFG Wealth Management, LLC dba Korhorn Financial Group. KFG Wealth Management, LLC dba Korhorn Financial Group and Silver Oak Securities, Inc. are not affiliated. Mike Bernard, CFP® and Joshua Gregory, CFP® offer advisory services through KFG Wealth Management, LLC dba Korhorn Financial Group. This information is for general financial education and is not intended to provide specific investment advice or recommendations. All investing and investment strategies involve risk, including the potential loss of principal. Asset allocation & diversification do not ensure a profit or prevent a loss in a declining market. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Certified Financial Planner Board of Standards Center for Financial Planning, Inc. owns and licenses the certification marks CFP®, CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and CFP® (with plaque design) in the United States to Certified Financial Planner Board of Standards, Inc., which authorizes individuals who successfully complete the organization's initial and ongoing certification requirements to use the certification marks.

In this episode of Grow a Small Business, host Troy Trewin interviews Nick Ellsmore, ex-founder of Hivint, a cybersecurity consulting firm he co-founded in 2015 and sold in just three years for $23M. Nick shares how he went from starting his first business during university to exiting two companies for a combined $47M. He talks about building Security Colony to give small businesses access to enterprise-grade tools, the importance of storytelling in marketing, and creating a strong, values-driven culture. A few years on from leaving the business, Nick reflects on his journey, the mindset shifts that helped him grow, and the lessons learned from scaling fast in a demanding industry. Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here. Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress points during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice. And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions: What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? According to Nick Ellsmore, the hardest thing is maintaining focus, momentum, and the “will to keep your business alive” through the rollercoaster of small business growth. Staying consistent when things get tough is often what defines long-term success. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? Nick Ellsmore has shared that his favorite business book is Early Exits by Basil Peters. It helped him understand how to structure businesses for strategic acquisition, especially when building with an exit in mind. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? Nick Ellsmore recommends the 90 Day Year by Todd Herman, a goal-setting and execution system that breaks the year into manageable 90-day sprints. It helped him stay focused on what truly moves the needle in business. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? According to Nick Ellsmore, the One Page Strategic Plan from Verne Harnish's Scaling Up is a game-changing tool. It helps align teams, clarify strategy, and focus everyone on priorities—all in one concise page. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? Nick Ellsmore has shared that if he could go back, he'd simply tell himself, “It's going to be okay.” Despite the challenges and stress, everything will work out. Trust the process, keep pushing, and don't forget to breathe. Book a 20-minute Growth Chat with Troy Trewin to see if you qualify for our upcoming course. Don't miss out on this opportunity to take your small business to new heights! Enjoyed the podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes or your preferred platform. Your feedback helps more small business owners discover our podcast and embark on their business growth journey.     Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: Success in business isn't about brilliance, it's about consistency and the will to keep going – Nick Ellsmore For your team, for your clients, for potential acquirers, story-telling is key: Why you? Why now?  – Nick Ellsmore If you want to sell your business one day, start building it that way from day one – Nick Ellsmore  

In this thought-provoking episode, host Allison Walsh sits down with Alice Heiman—internationally known sales strategist and "Chief Sales Energizer"—to discuss the intersection of business growth, personal transformation, and the realities of being a high-performing woman at midlife.Alice opens up about her journey from elementary school teacher to top-tier sales expert for CEOs of innovative companies. She dives deep into navigating leadership while caring for family, handling perimenopause, and planning strategic exits. This conversation is full of truth, strategy, and empowerment for women navigating business and life in their 40s, 50s, and beyond. 

Join us for an exclusive episode of The Exit Is Now podcast as Scott Snider welcomes Neil McPeak into the studio for an honest and impactful conversation. From Olympic rowing to co-owning a multi-advisor firm with his father, Neil shares how discipline, team dynamics, and one major client loss reshaped their entire business model. He opens up about transitioning from general advising to pre-sale business owner specialization, and how reframing their approach with referral partners has led to deeper relationships and more meaningful work. Scott and Neil also reflect on shared lessons from their landscaping days and how that grit carries forward into legacy-building conversations with the next generation.Want to learn more? Go to: https://linktr.ee/theexitplanninginstituteConnect with Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-snider-epi/============================================SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-is-now-plan-accordingly-with-scott-snider/id1663050204Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0iXzdvQN1ApWPOk3rVytFR============================================CONNECT WITH SCOTT ON SOCIAL MEDIA   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Eh7TfhJHKRa5uc5R0uRgAFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Exit-Planning-Institute-608403729259835Website: https://exit-planning-institute.org#ExitPlanningInstitute #ScottSnider #Podcast============================================About Scott:Scott Snider is the President of the Exit Planning Institute (EPI) and the Operating Partner of Snider Premier Growth, a small family investment company.  At EPI, Scott is responsible for the strategic direction of the organization along with overseeing the company's operations and chapter development. Since joining EPI, Scott has expanded the organization regionally, nationally, and globally, providing a transformational educational experience to advisors from all specialties across the globe.Scott Snider is a nationally recognized industry leader, growth specialist, and lifetime entrepreneur.  Two of Snider's biggest talents: market penetration and rapid growth strategies. As the operational and strategic leader of EPI, Snider thrives on helping advisors learn how to educate clients, achieve market distinction, and deliver real results.

***New Video Alert! Can you retire from your business? What will that look like? When will it happen? How can you make sure it really will? This and more in my latest video all about small business exit planning. https://youtu.be/b2DTzqQixD8 Cheers See you over on YouTube David C Barnett **** - Join David's email list so you never miss any new videos or important information or insights, RECEIVE 7 FREE GIFTS!!- https://www.DavidCBarnettList.com **** Do Business with David using these incredible internet links... - David's Blog where you can find hundreds of free videos and articles, https://www.DavidCBarnett.com - Book a call with David and let him help you with your project, https://www.CallDavidBarnett.com - Learn how to buy a successful and profitable business in a risk-controlled way https://www.BusinessBuyerAdvantage.com - Get help selling your business, https://www.HowToSellMyOwnBusiness.com - Get better organized in your business, https://www.EasySmallBizSystems.com - Learn to make better cash flow forecasts and write incredibly effective business plans from scratch!, https://www.BizPlanSchool.com - Learn to build an equity asset with insurance! visit https://www.NewBankingSolution.com -Did you sign up for an expensive Merchant Cash Advance for your business and now struggle to make the payments? Find out how you can negotiate your way out at https://www.EndMyMCA.com

In this episode of "It's the Bottom Line That Matters," hosts Jennifer Glass, Daniel McCraine, and Patricia Reszetylo dive into real-life wipeouts in exit and succession planning for business owners. The conversation uncovers cautionary tales—from family businesses that falter due to lack of planning, to well-intentioned owners who discover too late that "fair" isn't always "equitable" when it comes to passing the torch. Daniel shares stories highlighting the pitfalls of neglecting conversations with key stakeholders, while Patricia brings personal experience to emphasize the chaos that can erupt when clear communication is missing.Together, the trio unpacks the essential steps every business owner should take to safeguard their legacy and protect their teams, clients, and families. They stress the importance of talking openly with family members, identifying all critical stakeholders—including lawyers, accountants, and even insurance agents—and making contingency plans for unexpected events. Listeners walk away with practical advice on how to avoid unintended consequences and ensure a smooth transition, no matter what the future holds.Keywords: exit planning, business succession, family business, succession planning, business transition, business owner, business stakeholders, business exit, estate planning, passing on a business, generational business, dividing business assets, business legacy, unintended consequences, business partnerships, business mistakes, business continuity, stakeholder communication, business inheritance, selling a business, employee ownership, business planning, business transition planning, family disputes, business structure, financial advisor, insurance agent, legal planning, tax planning, business management, business equityKey takeaways: Fair isn't always equitable: Splitting a business evenly between heirs might feel “fair,” but it often leads to conflict and business instability if deeper conversations about roles and desires aren't had.Don't skip the tough conversations: Involving ALL relevant stakeholders—family, key team members, advisors, and even in-laws—can surface issues before they become disasters. Ask tough questions early on.Plan for the unexpected: Sudden events happen. Make sure successors can access what's needed: payroll, customer info, bank accounts, and key-person insurance. Prepare as if you won't always be there.If you're thinking of the next step for your business, tune in to avoid these common wipeouts—and set your team (and family) up for success.

David Flores Wilson, CFA, CFP®, Managing Partner at Sincerus Advisory, where he helps entrepreneurs, tech professionals, and business owners build and protect their wealth, optimize business exits, and achieve financial freedom.Named an Investopedia Top 100 Financial Advisor (2019 & 2020), his financial expertise has been featured in CNBC, The New York Times, Kiplinger, and InvestmentNews. A Certified Exit Planning Advisor (CEPA®), he specializes in equity compensation planning, tax- efficient wealth strategies, and strategic philanthropy, ensuring his clients make informed financial decisions that align with their long-term goals. A graduate of UC Berkeley, he holds multiple financial credentials, including CFA, CFP®, AEP®, CEPA®, and CCFC. David represented Guam in the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games and is an active member of Entrepreneur's Organization, the Estate Planning Council of NYC, and Advisors in Philanthropy, where he promotes financial literacy and impactful philanthropy.Passionate about continuous learning and personal growth, David enjoys traveling, reading, Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, yoga, and snowboarding in his free time. CONTACT DETAILS Email: dwilson@sincerusadv.com Company: Sincerus AdvisoryWebsite: https://sincerusadv.com/Social Media Address:LinkedIN - https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-flores-wilson-cfp%C2%AE-cfa-02b5a/ X - https://x.com/NYwealthadvisor Remember to SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss "Information That You Can Use." Share Just Minding My Business with your family, friends, and colleagues. Engage with us by leaving a review or comment. https://g.page/r/CVKSq-IsFaY9EBM/review Your support keeps this podcast going and growing.Visit Just Minding My Business Media™ LLC at https://jmmbmediallc.com/ to learn how we can help you get more visibility on your products and services. 

Watch Here: https://youtu.be/n8w08TJMPdIAbout the Guest: Fadi Malouf is a strategic buyer, advisor, and capital partner focused on buying, growing, and exiting companies with scale potential. His career began in the fitness and wellness space before shifting into software, tech, and eventually structured M&A. Now the founder of FM Capital and FM Advisory, Fadi partners with operators and investors to fund deals, implement systems, and position companies for high-value exits. He is currently raising a $100M fund and works with over 60 independent advisors across his network.Summary:In this episode of the How to Exit Podcast, Ron sits down with Fadi Malouf, a seasoned M&A strategist and founder of FM Capital and FM Advisory. Fadi shares a refreshingly candid look into his evolution from personal trainer to software company exit, to advising and funding acquisition deals in the lower-middle market. The conversation covers not only how Fadi thinks about deal structure, ownership vs. control, and turnaround risk—but also how his personal values and lived experiences shape the way he buys and builds businesses.Listeners will find this episode especially compelling if they're trying to bridge the gap between being an operator and becoming an investor. Fadi doesn't hold back on his disdain for turnaround deals, his belief in control over ownership, and his obsession with systems, delegation, and operational execution. But what makes this interview resonate is the philosophical undercurrent: businesses are problems to be solved, but you better love solving them.Key Takeaways:Buy with an exit in mind – Fadi learned the hard way that starting a company without thinking about its eventual exit is a recipe for pain and lost value.Turnarounds are not for amateurs – He strongly advises new buyers to avoid turnaround deals unless they have the capital, team, and turnaround-specific experience.Control beats ownership – Fadi prioritizes control over equity, emphasizing results and alignment rather than maximizing ownership at the expense of execution.The real bottleneck is often the founder – Companies under $3M in revenue are frequently hampered by owners who haven't fired themselves from key roles.Invest in systems and delegation early – Fadi emphasizes the importance of building a company that runs without you; hire people smarter than you and get out of the way.Culture kills or scales – If you buy a company with entrenched staff resistant to change, expect a battle. Culture change is slow and hard.Capital without credibility is a deal killer – Bringing money to the table means nothing if the operator can't prove capability or relinquish control.Fall in love with the problem – You'll face chaos, adversity, and setbacks. If you don't love what you're doing, it'll break you.--------------------------------------------------Contact Fadi onLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fadimalouf/Website: https://fadimalouf.com/--------------------------------------------------

Join us for a compelling episode of the Exit Is Now podcast as Scott Snider sits down with M&A advisor and author Scott Bushkie for a candid conversation on what it really takes to sell a business. Scott shares insights from 25 years in the trenches—from his early days as the “gas station king” to building a boutique investment bank serving the underserved lower middle market. They explore how the M&A profession has evolved, what owners should expect during a sale, and the emotional weight of letting go. Scott also dives into his book Finish Strong, which helps business owners navigate value, timing, and life after the sale.Want to learn more? Go to: https://linktr.ee/theexitplanninginstituteConnect with Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-snider-epi/============================================SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-is-now-plan-accordingly-with-scott-snider/id1663050204Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0iXzdvQN1ApWPOk3rVytFR============================================CONNECT WITH SCOTT ON SOCIAL MEDIA   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Eh7TfhJHKRa5uc5R0uRgAFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Exit-Planning-Institute-608403729259835Website: https://exit-planning-institute.org#ExitPlanningInstitute #ScottSnider #Podcast============================================About Scott:Scott Snider is the President of the Exit Planning Institute (EPI) and the Operating Partner of Snider Premier Growth, a small family investment company.  At EPI, Scott is responsible for the strategic direction of the organization along with overseeing the company's operations and chapter development. Since joining EPI, Scott has expanded the organization regionally, nationally, and globally, providing a transformational educational experience to advisors from all specialties across the globe.Scott Snider is a nationally recognized industry leader, growth specialist, and lifetime entrepreneur.  Two of Snider's biggest talents: market penetration and rapid growth strategies. As the operational and strategic leader of EPI, Snider thrives on helping advisors learn how to educate clients, achieve market distinction, and deliver real results.

Overview: In this episode of the SMB Community Podcast, James Kernan is joined by Justin Maxwell, a partner at Big Life Financial. The discussion centers around exit planning, legacy creation, and strategic planning for IT professionals and business owners. Justin explains the concept of a fractional family office and how Big Life Financial offers comprehensive services that include accounting, investment management, insurance, estate planning, and boutique investment banking. He emphasizes the importance of starting with a clear end goal in mind, regular tax planning, and the benefits of proactive financial strategies. Justin also provides insights into innovative legacy planning methods, such as investing in your own business and creating family foundations. The episode concludes with practical advice for business owners and the availability of additional learning resources and courses from Big Life Financial.  --- Chapter Markers: 00:00 Introduction  00:28 Special Guest Introduction: Justin Maxwell from Big Life Financial 01:41 Understanding Family Offices and Their Importance 04:26 Strategic Planning for Business Owners 06:51 Tax Strategies for Business Owners 11:50 Exit Planning and Wealth Preservation 14:03 Innovative Legacy Planning Ideas 18:45 Courses and Coaching for Wealth Building 21:46 Final Thoughts and Contact Information 24:35 Closing Remarks --- About Justin Maxwell: Justin was a teacher and researcher before he started working with the BLF team in 2019. Justin discovered the entrepreneurial itch and quickly found that, like education, the financial and tax world loves to push everyone through the same square box. However, this doesn't work in education or finance. His mission is to change that approach and deliver holistic tax and financial solutions for fellow successful entrepreneurs.   Learn more about Justin at www.biglifefinancial.com Connect with Justin on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmaxwellwealthpreserve/ --- New Book Release: I'm proud to announce the release of my new book, The Anthology of Cybersecurity Experts! This collection brings together 15 of the nation's top minds in cybersecurity, sharing real-world solutions to combat today's most pressing threats. Whether you're an MSP, IT leader, or simply passionate about protecting your data, this book is packed with expert advice to help you stay secure and ahead of the curve. Available now on Amazon! https://a.co/d/f2NKASI --- Sponsor Memo: Since 2006, Kernan Consulting has been through over 30 transactions in mergers & acquisitions - and just this past year, we have been involved in six (6). If you are interested in either buying, selling, or valuation information, please reach out. There is alot of activity and you can be a part of it. For more information, reach out at kernanconsulting.com

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Join us for an exclusive episode of The Exit Is Now podcast as Joe Slatter, founder of Better Practice, takes the host chair in a special Flip the Script edition. Joe and Scott Snider explore the evolution of EPI's culture from a tight-knit team of friends to a scalable organization of 50+ employees. Scott opens up about his transformation as a leader, the challenges of maintaining soul while scaling excellence, and the tools that helped shape EPI's foundation. They discuss the intentional frameworks behind the company's growth, how cross-functional collaboration fuels value, and what legacy means as EPI enters its next chapter.Want to learn more? Go to: https://linktr.ee/theexitplanninginstituteConnect with Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-snider-epi/============================================SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-is-now-plan-accordingly-with-scott-snider/id1663050204Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0iXzdvQN1ApWPOk3rVytFR============================================CONNECT WITH SCOTT ON SOCIAL MEDIA   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Eh7TfhJHKRa5uc5R0uRgAFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Exit-Planning-Institute-608403729259835Website: https://exit-planning-institute.org#ExitPlanningInstitute #ScottSnider #Podcast============================================About Scott:Scott Snider is the President of the Exit Planning Institute (EPI) and the Operating Partner of Snider Premier Growth, a small family investment company.  At EPI, Scott is responsible for the strategic direction of the organization along with overseeing the company's operations and chapter development. Since joining EPI, Scott has expanded the organization regionally, nationally, and globally, providing a transformational educational experience to advisors from all specialties across the globe.Scott Snider is a nationally recognized industry leader, growth specialist, and lifetime entrepreneur.  Two of Snider's biggest talents: market penetration and rapid growth strategies. As the operational and strategic leader of EPI, Snider thrives on helping advisors learn how to educate clients, achieve market distinction, and deliver real results.

MARC ADAMS is a sought-after strategy mentor and the best-selling author of Secrets to 10xing Your Business and Cashing Out Tax-Free. In his book, he shares exactly what business owners need to do to become even more wealthy be that increasing value and secure tax- free exits.Marc's story goes far beyond traditional business success. At the height of his career, Marc had achieved remarkable milestones—taking a company from $140 million to a $1 billion valuation, building a $30 million revenue stream from scratch in Southeast Asia in 18 months with no budget, and turning around a loss-making $15 million business to exit for $140 million. Many would consider these the pinnacle of success.For Marc, his greatest triumph came from an entirely different battle. He was diagnosed with stage four cancer and given just six months to live. Faced with this diagnosis, it was a heartfelt comment from his 10-year-old son, Thomas, that shifted his mindset and gave him the strength to fight. Amazingly, Marc survived—but it wasn't due to conventional treatment. In a twist of fate, doctors believe that contracting the original strain of Covid-19 actually cured his cancer, saving his life. This astonishing story of survival redefined his perspective and approach, fueling his passion for making business owners wealthy again, now with the help of $22Bn of family office support.Contact Details:Business: Acquisitions4youWebsite: www.acquisitions4you.com Email: mwrc@acquisitions4you.com Social Media:LinkedIN - http://linkedin.com/in/1marcadams Free Copy of Book: https://linktr.ee/TheMarcAdams Remember to SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss "Information That You Can Use." Share Just Minding My Business with your family, friends, and colleagues. Engage with us by leaving a review or comment. https://g.page/r/CVKSq-IsFaY9EBM/review Your support keeps this podcast going and growing.Visit Just Minding My Business Media™ LLC at https://jmmbmediallc.com/ to learn how we can support you in getting more visibility on your products and services. 

Most entrepreneurs think raising VC money means they've "made it."But Tom Dillon learned something different during his years in investment banking and running a PE-backed company.After analyzing countless deals and experiencing the pressure firsthand, he discovered that VC money comes with a specific expectation: IPO-level returns."For a lot of VCs, they kinda look at things in terms of roulette table. They really need one of those to hit big."The problem? Most successful businesses exit through M&A, not IPOs.So if you're building a profitable company that could sell for $20-50M in a few years, VC funding might actually work against you.Tom now helps founders as a fractional CFO, matching funding strategies to realistic business goals rather than chasing the biggest check.In this episode, we explore:• Why thinking multiple rounds ahead is crucial for any capital raise • Alternative funding sources that align with M&A exits • The growing trend of buying your first business instead of starting one • How to set realistic valuation expectations • The mindset shifts that separate successful founders from those who strugglePerfect for entrepreneurs evaluating funding options and business owners planning exit strategies.• • •FOR MORE ON THIS EPISODE:https://www.coreykupfer.com/blog/tomdillon• • • FOR MORE ON TOM DILLONhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/tomdilloncfa/ https://fracfinance.com/ FOR MORE ON COREY KUPFERhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/coreykupfer/https://www.coreykupfer.com/ Corey Kupfer is an expert strategist, negotiator, and dealmaker. He has more than 35 years of professional deal-making and negotiating experience. Corey is a successful entrepreneur, attorney, consultant, author, and professional speaker. He is deeply passionate about deal-driven growth. He is also the creator and host of the DealQuest Podcast.Get deal-ready with the DealQuest Podcast with Corey Kupfer, where like-minded entrepreneurs and business leaders converge, share insights and challenges, and success stories. Equip yourself with the tools, resources, and support necessary to navigate the complex yet rewarding world of dealmaking. Dive into the world of deal-driven growth today!

What comes after the big exit? For Jess Stewart, it wasn't freedom—it was confusion.In this episode, we unpack how she rebuilt both her purpose and leadership rhythm after selling her company. If you're feeling stuck in your business or unsure about what comes next, Jess's story offers a practical path forward.Here's what we cover:The emotional and operational void after exiting a businessHow to install structure without losing flexibilityWhat leadership rhythms look like in real companiesFeeling stuck in the chaos of what comes after your big milestone? Let's figure out your next chapter.

Send us a textFrom pulling network cables to helping MSPs plan their exits—Rayanne Buchianico's journey is one of purpose, perseverance, and transformation. In this inspiring episode from IT Nation Secure 2025, Joey Pinz speaks with Rayanne and fellow trailblazer Rhea about their paths into the MSP world and how they're driving change through specialized services and support.

Jessica Polito is the founder and principal of Turkey Hill Management, an M&A advisor for wealth managers. We sat down with Jessica to discuss how the growing landscape of independent fiduciaries and RIA aggregators is fueling M&A activity in the wealth management space.

What if scaling your SaaS didn't require burning out or selling your soul to venture capital? In this episode, Greg sits down with seasoned SaaS founder, author, and startup mentor Rob Walling for a candid conversation about what it really takes to build a sustainable, sellable SaaS business. Rob kicks things off by sharing how he stumbled into SaaS before it was cool, and how that journey led him to co-create TinySeed, an alternative funding model that puts founders first. He breaks down how TinySeed's 12-month program works, who it's for, and how it compares to traditional VC. But this episode isn't just about funding, it's about founder freedom. We dive deep into the psychological shifts that come with selling your business, how to recognize the right time to exit, and how to protect your energy both before and after a sale. Rob also shares the biggest traps SaaS founders fall into when chasing “growth at all costs” and the core traits he sees in founders who succeed. Whether you're bootstrapping, raising capital, or planning an exit, this episode is packed with honest, actionable insights that will help you scale smarter, and sell without regret. Topics Discussed in this episode: Rob's background and how he got into SaaS (02:08) The origins of TinySeed and how it differs from Venture Capital (12:09) The opportunities that are created through selling your business (19:43) A breakdown of Tiny Seed's 12-month program (22:19) The pros and cons of a “growth at all costs” mindset (28:32) The requirements needed to join Tiny Seed (30:20) The psychological effects of exiting your business (33:56) How to tell when to sell your business (39:40) How to avoid burnout before and after your exit (46:43) The characteristics that successful founders share (52:21) Mentions:  Empire Flippers Podcasts Empire Flippers Marketplace Create an Empire Flippers account Subscribe to our weekly newsletter Startups For The Rest Of Us podcast  Exit Strategy: The Entrepreneur's Guide to Selling Your Business without Regret TinySeed Sit back, grab a coffee, and learn how to take the next step in your SaaS journey with confidence.

Join us for an exclusive episode of The Exit Is Now podcast as we flip the script with 2025 Exit Planner of the Year, Joe Seetoo. Joe steps into the host chair to interview Scott Snider in a personal, behind-the-scenes conversation that covers everything from business growth and family dynamics to mental health and financial clarity. Scott opens up about building EPI alongside his father, finding balance through elite goalkeeper training, and what's next for the profession including a powerful new platform connecting advisors and business owners.Want to learn more? Go to: https://linktr.ee/theexitplanninginstituteConnect with Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-snider-epi/============================================SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-is-now-plan-accordingly-with-scott-snider/id1663050204Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0iXzdvQN1ApWPOk3rVytFR============================================CONNECT WITH SCOTT ON SOCIAL MEDIA   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Eh7TfhJHKRa5uc5R0uRgAFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Exit-Planning-Institute-608403729259835Website: https://exit-planning-institute.org#ExitPlanningInstitute #ScottSnider #Podcast============================================About Scott:Scott Snider is the President of the Exit Planning Institute (EPI) and the Operating Partner of Snider Premier Growth, a small family investment company.  At EPI, Scott is responsible for the strategic direction of the organization along with overseeing the company's operations and chapter development. Since joining EPI, Scott has expanded the organization regionally, nationally, and globally, providing a transformational educational experience to advisors from all specialties across the globe.Scott Snider is a nationally recognized industry leader, growth specialist, and lifetime entrepreneur.  Two of Snider's biggest talents: market penetration and rapid growth strategies. As the operational and strategic leader of EPI, Snider thrives on helping advisors learn how to educate clients, achieve market distinction, and deliver real results.

As Benjamin Franklin famously said, “In this world, nothing is certain except death and taxes.” But for online business owners, taxes aren't always so certain, especially when it comes to sales tax. In this episode, we're joined by Jessica Rhoads. Jessica is an internationally experienced CPA and self-confessed “dumpster fire accountant” who specializes in helping business owners untangle messy tax situations. We cover the key types of taxes every entrepreneur should understand, and zoom in on the one that's most commonly misunderstood, and most likely to derail a future exit: sales tax. Jessica breaks down how sales tax applies to non-tangible goods like SaaS products and apps, what triggers a sales tax nexus, and why ignoring it can lead to massive headaches during due diligence. She also shares insight on the best and worst states to set up your business from a tax standpoint, when to file a Voluntary Disclosure Agreement (VDA), and how to stay compliant if you're selling across borders. If you're building a business with the goal of selling one day, this episode is a must-listen. It could save you from tax troubles that scare off buyers, or cost you more than you bargained for. Topics Discussed in this episode: The different types of taxes businesses should be aware of (03:45) Why sales tax is so important when selling your business (06:49) How sales tax is applied to software and apps (11:43) An overview of sales tax nexus (17:30) The different tax softwares that can help you figure out your taxes (19:50) The best and worst states to set up your business in (23:07) How to stay compliant if you have sales tax nexus (28:16) How tax works if you're selling in foreign countries (30:37) When to file a VDA (33:56) A major misconception founders have about sales tax that hurts them later (39:39) Mentions:  Empire Flippers Podcasts Empire Flippers Marketplace Create an Empire Flippers account Subscribe to our weekly newsletter Jessicanomics.com Sit back, grab a coffee, and learn how to get your business taxes in order - before it's too late.

You might have a buyer lined up — but that doesn't mean your exit is guaranteed. In this episode of Succession Stories, host Laurie Barkman sits down with Jim Carlisle , mergers and acquisitions attorney and chair of the National Growth and Exit Planning Group at Dinsmore & Shohl LLP. With decades of experience guiding business owners through transitions, Jim shares insider insights into why even well-prepared exits can fall apart — and what you can do to avoid common pitfalls - and why it's never too soon to start planning ahead. This conversation is essential for entrepreneurs who want to ensure their hard work pays off,  both financially and personally, when it's time to move on.  

In this episode of The Entrepreneur Gene, host Laurie Barkman sits down with Julie Broad, President of Book Launchers, to discuss the entrepreneurial mindset, key decisions, and challenges in business growth. Julie shares her journey from growing up in a highway-side motel in Alberta, Canada to becoming a successful entrepreneur, author, and real estate investor. She offers insights on the importance of problem-solving and risk-taking and how she self-published her first book. Julie also talks about harnessing AI in her business, transitioning her company from California to Nevada, and her passions for pickleball and poker.    Takeaways: Entrepreneurs should look for gaps in the market and opportunities where they can provide unique solutions. When making strategic decisions, consult with your team. Their excitement and input can guide you toward the best opportunity to pursue next. Have a vision for where you want your business to go in the next few years. Although long-term plans can change, having a direction helps in making aligned decisions. Offering resources like a workbook or a guide, as Julie does with the seven steps to write a book, can help others and establish you as an authority in your field. Quote of the Show: “When somebody says, ‘That doesn't sound like a good idea.' I better go find out'.” - Julie Broad Connect with Julie Broad: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliebroad/  Website: https://booklaunchers.com/  Book Link: https://juliebroad.com/books/  Connect with Laurie Barkman: laurie@btsherpa.com  ✨

What's your plan for walking away from dentistry, and will it actually work? Angela Golden shares what most dentists get wrong about exit planning and why waiting could cost you your legacy.

Join us for an exclusive episode of the Exit is Now podcast, broadcasting from the highly anticipated Exit Planning Summit. Scott Snider welcomes Renee Russo, Ken Sanginario, and representatives from ELLA to the show. Renee, recently named Thought Leader of the Year, shares how she's leveraged the LinkedIn platform to elevate her voice and drive impact. Ken reflects on two decades of exit planning—what's changed, what's stayed the same, and where the profession is headed. And the team from ELLA, the sponsor of the Summit Podcast series, talks about their role in supporting advisors and their unforgettable sunset cruise experience.Want to learn more? Go to: https://linktr.ee/theexitplanninginstituteConnect with Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-snider-epi/============================================SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-is-now-plan-accordingly-with-scott-snider/id1663050204Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0iXzdvQN1ApWPOk3rVytFR============================================CONNECT WITH SCOTT ON SOCIAL MEDIA   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Eh7TfhJHKRa5uc5R0uRgAFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Exit-Planning-Institute-608403729259835Website: https://exit-planning-institute.org#ExitPlanningInstitute #ScottSnider #Podcast============================================About Scott:Scott Snider is the President of the Exit Planning Institute (EPI) and the Operating Partner of Snider Premier Growth, a small family investment company.  At EPI, Scott is responsible for the strategic direction of the organization along with overseeing the company's operations and chapter development. Since joining EPI, Scott has expanded the organization regionally, nationally, and globally, providing a transformational educational experience to advisors from all specialties across the globe.Scott Snider is a nationally recognized industry leader, growth specialist, and lifetime entrepreneur.  Two of Snider's biggest talents: market penetration and rapid growth strategies. As the operational and strategic leader of EPI, Snider thrives on helping advisors learn how to educate clients, achieve market distinction, and deliver real results.

Thinking about selling your business? In this episode of Protect Your Assets, David Hollander discusses key considerations for business owners preparing for a potential sale. From cleaning up your books to understanding valuation methods like EBITDA and discounted cash flow, you’ll learn how to navigate the transition thoughtfully. David also explores tax implications, legal planning, and how to approach the emotional side of letting go of a company you've spent years building. Whether you’ve received a call from a private equity firm or you’re just beginning to consider your next chapter, this episode offers practical insights from over 30 years of working with business owners at every stage of the exit process. You can send your questions to questions@pyaradio.com for a chance to be answered on air. Catch up on past episodes: http://pyaradio.com Liberty Group website: https://libertygroupllc.com/ Attend an event: www.pyaevents.com Schedule a complimentary 15-minute consultation: https://calendly.com/libertygroupllc/scheduleacall/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In times of uncertainty, knowing what your business is worth—and how to protect or grow that value—can feel elusive. You are never sure what business you are really in. What should you do? How can you retain the value you have created and prepare for the next growth phase, or even the exit strategy? On this recent episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, I had the pleasure of speaking with Dave Bookbinder. Dave is a business valuation expert whose groundbreaking work focuses on an often-overlooked truth: your people are your most valuable asset. Dave, the author of The New ROI: Return on Individuals, joined me to unpack how business owners can better understand, manage, and maximize the value of their companies—especially in a rapidly changing business environment. His key message? Valuation isn't just a number. It's a reflection of leadership, culture, and strategic clarity. Let me repeat that:  Your business's value is a reflection of leadership, culture, and strategic clarity. What can Dave teach you about how to build and protect that value? The Human Side of Valuation Dave's experience spans thousands of valuation engagements across industries. And while balance sheets highlight assets like patents and trademarks, human capital rarely makes the cut. “Every CEO says their people are their most valuable asset,” Dave points out, “but where do they show up on the balance sheet? They don't.” That gap sparked his first book, The New ROI, which explores the critical link between culture, engagement, and enterprise value. His second, The New ROI: Going Behind the Numbers, draws from his award-winning podcast, Behind the Numbers, which focuses on how leadership and culture truly impact business performance. You will totally enjoy watching our video of the podcast here. Common Valuation Mistakes Dave shared some of the biggest pitfalls business owners face when it comes to valuing their company: Relying on rules of thumb: “Back-of-the-napkin” valuations based on hearsay can be wildly misleading. Dave recounted a client who declined a generous acquisition offer assuming better ones would follow. Years later, the business couldn't command even half that valuation. Tax-driven financials: Many entrepreneurs minimize income to reduce taxes, only to struggle during a sale. Buyers don't take your word for “adjusted EBITDA”—they want clean, auditable numbers. Unrealistic projections: Over-optimistic forecasts, especially those shaped like a hockey stick, often destroy credibility with buyers. “They're buying the future,” Dave says. “And if your projections seem disconnected from market realities, they'll discount for risk.” De-Risking Your Business to Maximize Value Buyers and investors are risk-averse. That's why Dave emphasizes the need to "de-risk" your business: Clean financial statements: Avoid running personal expenses through the business. Have your books reviewed or audited by a CPA. Strong management team: If the business can't run without you, it's not scalable—or sellable. Documented processes: Institutional knowledge should live in systems, not just in people's heads. “If your business can't survive you getting hit by a bus,” Dave quips, “you don't have a sellable business.” Exit Planning is a Process, Not an Event Whether you're transferring ownership to a family member or preparing for an acquisition, Dave urges owners to think ahead. “Selling a business is like selling a house,” he explains. “You need to get an appraisal, clean it up, and understand what similar businesses are selling for.” He also warned that poorly integrated acquisitions often fail—not due to valuation issues, but because of clashing cultures. “Seventy-five to ninety percent of deals miss their synergy targets because they ignore people and culture,” he says. Why Culture is Core to Company Value As a corporate anthropologist, I know firsthand how culture shapes performance. Dave agrees. “It's not that successful companies have a good culture—it's that good culture drives success,” he said. When leaders overlook how work gets done—or try to impose a new cultural model without understanding the old one—they risk alienating key people and destroying value. Culture is the operating system of the business. Your People Are Your Value Dave's work offers a refreshing, human-centric view of business valuation. Whether you're growing, planning an exit, or considering acquisitions, the lesson is clear: your people, your culture, and your credibility are the real ROI. If you're curious to learn more, check out Dave's books on Amazon: The New ROI: Return on Individuals The New ROI: Going Behind the Numbers The Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors And tune into his award-winning podcast, Behind the Numbers. Final Thought In today's volatile market, it's not just about numbers—it's about narratives. The story you tell buyers, investors, or the next generation about your company must be grounded in reality, powered by culture, and led by people who are truly your greatest asset. To reach David Bookbinder and read his books: Dave's Profile: linkedin.com/in/davebookbinder Websites: linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers (Portfolio) NEWROI.com (Personal) amazon.com/Dave-Bookbinder/e/B075SDJ12F (Portfolio) Email: davebookbinder@gmail.com Listen to these other podcasts or read the blogs about them: 435: Navigating the Management Maze: Tips for New Leaders  433: Organizations Must Embrace Human-Centric Design 430: How Does Dr. Chris Fuzie Create Great Leaders? Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.net Email: info@simonassociates.net Books:  Learn more about these books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk! From Observation to Innovation, Andi Simon, PhD CEO | Corporate Anthropologist | Author Simonassociates.net Info@simonassociates.net @simonandi LinkedIn    

In this episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast, host Dylan Silver interviews Dr. Jami Bryant, a former healthcare professional turned commercial real estate expert and business broker. They discuss Jami's transition from healthcare to real estate, the importance of networking, and the unique challenges and opportunities in the commercial real estate market, particularly in the healthcare sector. Jami shares insights on the role of a business broker, the future of healthcare real estate, and the impact of the pandemic on hospitals and healthcare facilities.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true ‘white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a “mini-mastermind” with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming “Retreat”, either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas “Big H Ranch”? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------