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Welcome to the cypher! Audio Nuggets is where you will find a symbiotic force; both the heaviness of the air to breathe, and the light of freedom of liberation. Where human consciousness is alive. Each voice has a moment to spotlight their IT; their shine; their journey; their truth; their gold. And through the tenderness of love, we will aggressively claim our voice and own our right to humanity. We are blessed and honored to be joined by Dr. Resmaa Menakem for this episode, Reclaiming Humanity Tenderness.Embodied provocateur, multiple-levels thinker, and structural paradigm shifter Resmaa Menakem, is an author, agent of change, therapist, and licensed clinical worker specializing in racialized trauma, communal healing, and cultural first aid based in Minneapolis, Minnesota. As the originator and leading proponent of Somatic Abolitionism, an embodied anti racist practice for living and culture building, Resmaa is the founder of Justice Leadership Solutions and the Cultural Somatics Institute and is an educator and coach. Working at the intersections of anti-racism, communal healing, and embodied purpose, Resmaa Menakem is the challenging yet compassionate coach we all need in this time of racial reckoning and near-global dysregulation.We can't explain what you're about to listen to. Jump in with tenderness and love for the people. It is our role to tend to things. This is a time to reclaim the things we have been thinking are unclaimable. Because there's a little bit more room now. The cultivation of glue. The glue of peoplehood. To learn more about Resmaa and the Black Octopus Society, visit resmaa and Black Octopus Society.This show is part of the SafeCamp Audio podcast network. Learn more at SafeCampAudio.org.

Matthias Roberts is a queer  psychotherapist (in Washington State) and the author of both "Holy Runaways:Rediscovering Faith After Being Burned by Religion" and "Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms". He is one of my favorite friends I met in graduate school, a human deeply committed to connection and curiosity,  and someone who I deeply admire. With Matthias, I feel a sense of belonging and openness to understanding the world and holding space for that curiosity which is so threatening elsewhere. Rebecca W. Walston is an African American lawyer, who also holds a MA Counseling, an all around boss babe. Rebecca runs a Law Practice and serves as General Legal Counsel for The Impact Movement, Inc.  She is someone who fiercely advocates for others freedom and healing. She is a dear friend and colleague, who anyone would be lucky to spend a dinner with talking about almost anything.Trigger Warning: Proceed only if you are comfortable with potentially sensitive topics.This is not psychological advice, service, or prescriptive treatment for anxiety or depression. The content related to descriptions of depression, anxiety, or despair may be upsetting or triggering, but are clearly not exhaustive. If you should feel symptoms of depression and/or anxiety, please seek professional mental health services, or contact (in Kitsap County) Kitsap Mobile Crisis Team at  1-888-910-0416. The line is staffed by professionals who are trained to determine the level of crisis services needed. Depending on the need, this may include dispatching the KMHS Mobile Crisis Outreach Team for emergency assessment. Speaker 1 (00:18):Welcome to the Rise podcast, conversations on faith, race, justice, gender, and spirituality. Today we're continuing our conversation on election humanity and politics. I have two guests today. I'm very excited about it. Matthias Roberts, who's a queer psychotherapist in Washington State, and the author of both Holy Runaways and Beyond Shame. Actually, he's one of my favorite friends I met in graduate school. I don't know if he knows that he's a human, deeply committed to connection and curiosity and someone I deeply admire with Matthias. I've always felt this sense of belonging and openness to understanding the world and holding space for that actual curiosity, which has seems so threatening elsewhere. So I want to thank Matthias for joining me and taking time out of his morning. And Rebecca Wheeler Walstead holds an MA in counseling an all around boss babe. Rebecca runs a law practice and serves as general legal counsel for the Impact movement, and she is someone who fiercely advocates for others freedom and healing. She's a dear friend, obviously she's a colleague and she's someone that anybody would be lucky to spend a dinner with talking about almost anything. So thank you, Rebecca, for joining me today.(01:40):I can say that for myself in my own experience, my anxiety is heightened overall and feelings that I can keep at bay with regular normal coping mechanisms such as exercise. It takes to me a little bit more and I have to offer myself a lot more grace in the process. I encourage you no matter where you are, to engage these topics with grace towards your own self, towards your neighbor, towards your family, and towards whoever's in your proximity. We won't get things done overnight no matter who we are, and we will get them done if we become more aligned and care more for those in our proximity, that means our neighbor. So if you're feeling or experiencing anxiety around the election or family or other triggers, I want you to encourage you to seek out and find someone to speak with. Maybe you need a mental health professional, maybe you need a spiritual advisor. Maybe it's your coach and it's something related to business. Maybe you need to go see your doctor for aches and pains you've been having. I don't know what it might be for you, but don't hesitate to reach out and get the help you need. We're going to jump into the conversation and voices from across the country. We are all different and we're not meant to be the same. I hope you find pieces of you in each of their stories. Hey, Rebecca. Hey, Matthias. Thanks for being with me today.Speaker 2 (03:06):Daniel, thanks for havingSpeaker 1 (03:07):Us. I just thought we would talk about this really amazing subject of politics and humanness because we're so good at it in the United States. Yeah, right. Y'all thoughts on that? Even as I say that, just politics and being human, what comes to mind?Speaker 2 (03:34):For me, there's almost a dual process happening. I think about my first thought was, well, politics are, but then I also thought about how when we separate institutions out from people, especially in the way that corporations tend to separate out how they become anti-human so quickly, and not that politics is necessarily a corporation, but I think there's a form of it. There's something corporate about it. And so I think about that juxtaposition and maybe the dichotomy there between, yeah, it's human, but I think it's also anti-human in the ways that it has to, I think almost by definition, separate from maybe these places of deep feeling or nuance in order to collapse all of that experience into something that people can rally on.Speaker 3 (04:51):I think there's something dehumanizing about our current politics, but I think that that is about power. I think when politics becomes about the consolidation of power or the perpetuation of power or the hanging on to it sort of desperately, then it no longer is about the people that the institutions and the country was built to serve and protect. And so I think there are all these ideals in our politics that on paper and in theory sound amazing, but when people in their humanness or maybe in the worst of our humanness step away from other people and not just people as sort of this collective generalized, but the actual person in front of you, the actual person in front of you and the story that they have and the life that they live, and how decisions and theories and ideals will impact the actual person in front of you. And when politics becomes about collecting power and maintaining that power at all costs, then it's no longer about people. It's no longer about lives. It's no longer about stories, and all those things become expendable in the name of the consolidation and the maintenance of power. And I think that at its heart is a human question. It's a question of selfishness and self-serving and maybe even self idolatry.Speaker 1 (06:49):I think that I agree, Matthias, I've been thinking a lot about, because in my family it's been a lot of comments like, well, we shouldn't talk about politics because we're family. I'm like, wait a minute, wait just a minute. Because the very politic that is being said from one angle is hurting the humanity of this other particular family member. How do we make sense of that? How do we say politics isn't a very human, the impact is meant to impact humans. The power is meant to impact humans, so the political sphere has become so toxic to us.Speaker 3 (07:40):Yeah, I think that sentence, we shouldn't talk about politics because we're family. It says more about maybe our fragility as a culture in this moment and our inability to have hard conversations without feeling like the difficulty of them fractures, relationships and familial bonds in ways that cannot be repaired or restored in any way. And I think it is also a statement about the toxicity of our politics that we have allowed it to get to a place where it actually threatens those kinds of familial bonds in some sense, you want go back to, you remember that book that was big in the nineties? All I ever learned about life I learned in kindergarten, right? All I ever needed to know, it reminds me of that because raising kids, I would raise my kids to say, there isn't anything on this earth that should fracture your bond as siblings. I raised them to believe that. I insisted that they engage the world from this vantage point that come hell or high water do or die is you and your sister. That's it. And it doesn't matter what happens in this world, there should never be a scenario in which that isn't true. And we have arrived at this place where people honestly believe that your political affiliation somehow threatens that.(09:19):That's sad and sad feels like a word that's not heavy enough to articulate. There's something wrong, really wrong if that's where we are,Speaker 2 (09:35):I think it speaks perhaps to our inability to do conflict well, and I'm the first, I don't do this all with my family at all. I'm terrible at conflict with my family, at least in the arena of politics. But I think about, I wonder if some of the fracturing that we say, I don't think it's all of it by any means, but is that reality of, because we can't have these conversations in our immediate family, it's getting projected into the wider, I mean, it has to play out somewhat. It is going to, that's the nature of it. So because we can't do it locally, it is having to play out on this grand scale. Rebecca, as you said, sad. I think it's horrifying too.Speaker 1 (10:44):It's what?Speaker 2 (10:45):Horrifying.Speaker 1 (10:46):Yes. It's very dangerous to be honest.Speaker 2 (10:54):It's very, yeah, those bonds, we have the familial bonds. Those are protective in some ways when we remove that, we remove those protections.Speaker 1 (11:11):I think we've been practicing at a society, and I'm talking particularly about the United States at ways of removing those bonds in multiple spheres of the way we've thought about life, the way we think about another person, the way we judge each other, the way we vote in past elections. I mean, the civil rights movement is pushing against that notion that family means dehumanizing someone else. And so even this idea of, I'm not even sure if I can say it right, but just how we've constructed the idea of family and what do our shared values mean. In some sense, it's been constructed on this false notion that someone is worth more than another person. Now, when that person shows up as fully human, then I think we don't know what to do with it.Speaker 3 (12:11):Yeah. I think something you said, Mathias about we don't do conflict well, right? I think rarely is any issue, black and white. Rarely is any issue. So clear cut and so definitive that you can boldly stand on one side or the other and stay there in perpetuity without ever having to wrestle or grapple with some complexity, some nuance. And I think maybe part of what we don't do well is that right? Somehow we've gotten to this space where we have maybe an oversimplified if that, I'm not even sure that's a good word, perspective on a number of issues as if there isn't any complexity and there isn't any nuance and there isn't any reason to pause and wonder if context or timing would change the way we think about something, right? And nor do we think that somehow changing your mind is no longer acceptable.(13:20):I think about, I saw a number of interviews with Kamala Harris. People talk to her about, well, why'd you change your mind about this or that? Why'd you change your perspective about this or that? And then part of the conversation was about when did we get to this place where growing and learning and changing your mind is bad for someone who is in the profession of holding public office since when can you not get in public office, learn some things differently, meet some new people, understand the issue better, and go, you know what? I need to change the way I think about this, but we are there. All of a sudden it means you're not fit for office, at least as it has been applied to Kamala Harris in this particular and even before her. The notion of a flip flopper is again to say you can't somehow change your mind.Speaker 2 (14:21):So that makes me start to then think about some of the myths, and I mean that deeper theological myth in the sense of not that it is untrue, but more in the sense of how it permeates culture. That's when I say myth and we have this idea or many people have this idea of a God that doesn't change, a God who doesn't change his mind as the ideal of there is right there is wrong, and the ideal is no change. And we have examples and scriptures, at least I believe, of a God who does change his mind, who sees what happens and change is what he does. And I think those can be compatible with maybe some ideas that maybe God doesn't change, but we also have examples of God changing his mind. But I think that has permeated our world of something unchanging is better than someone who or something who does change. And I wonder what that impact has beenSpeaker 3 (15:38):That made me pause. I certainly come out of a faith background of hold to God's unchanging hand. I mean, I can come up off the top of my head with a dozen different examples of the notion of he does not shift, he does not change. And the kind of comfort or solidity that can be found in this notion that we're not subject to the whim of his mood in any given time, but what you said causes me to think about it and to think about what does it mean to say that we live in a world where there is a God who can be persuaded by something in the human context that will cause him to respond or react differently than perhaps his original mindset is. I'm going to walk away from this conversation pondering that for a while. I think,Speaker 2 (16:30):Yeah, there are stories of that in scripture.Speaker 3 (16:36):The one that comes to my mind is the story of, and I'm not going to get all the names correct, so whoever's listening, forgive me for that. But the story that comes to my mind is the prophet of old who is pleaded with God for more time on earth, for more space to be alive and walk the earth as a human being. And God granted his request. And again, now there's a bit of a paradigm shift for me. What does it mean to say that I live in a world where there's a God who can be persuaded? I think the other thing when you said about a God who changes his mind, what comes up for me is also a God who holds extremely well the nuance and the complexity of our humanness and all that that means. And so often I find it's sort of the pharmaceutical attitude that we can have that things are rigid and there's only one way to see it and one way to do it. And if you ever watch Jesus's engagement with the Pharisees, it's always actually the problem is more complex than that. Actually the question you're asking is more than that. And so what matters less is the rule. What matters more is the impact of that rule. And if we need to change the rule in order for the appropriate impact, then let's do that.Speaker 1 (18:08):It's kind of gets back to something I've been learning in consultation, talking about this idea. I think we're talking about very young spaces collectively for our society. If I was to put it in that frame, the idea of as a child, a very young kid, even into your teenagers, you need to know something solid. You need to know that's not changing. That's the rule. That's what I got to do. And it's the parent's responsibility to make meaning and metabolize nuance for you and help you process through that. But one of our first developmental things is to split. This is good, this is bad, this person is safe, this person. That's a developmental process. But in somewhere we got stuck,Speaker 3 (18:54):It brings to my mind, you've heard me reference raising kids. And so I raised my kids to say this idea that you have to be respectful and thoughtful in your choices. And I always told my kid that so long as you are respectful and thoughtful in your choices, your voices will always be heard and welcomed kind of in our home. And so my daughter approached me, she's making an argument about something that I absolutely did not agree with her final conclusion. I was like, there's no version of anybody's universe where you're doing that, right? And she says to me, but you said if I was thoughtful and I was respectful that I could assert my position and I have been respectful in my tone and I've been thoughtful in my position. And she was absolutely right. Both had been true, and I found myself having to say, okay, now I sort of backed myself into a corner.(19:58):She followed me into it and the conversation ended up being about, Hey, that's true. Those are the parameters, but you're older now and the things that you're making decisions about have more impact and they're more nuanced and complex than that. So we need to add a couple more things to your rubric, and it's a hard conversation to have, but it makes me think about that developmental piece that you're saying, Danielle, that when we're younger, there's certain sort of bright line rules and the older you get and the more complex life gets, the more you need to be able to actually blur those lines a little bit and fudge them a little bit and sometimes color outside of the lines because it is the right thing to do.Speaker 2 (20:48):I think that movement from that really kind of rigid split into Rebecca what you're talking about, it requires that grappling with grief and loss, it requires that sense of even if I followed the rules, I didn't get what I wanted. And that is we have options there. We can rage against it and go back into the split, you are bad. I'm good, or actually grapple with that. I did everything I was supposed to and it still didn't work out in that words, it doesn't feel good and grieve and feel the pain of that and actually work with those parts of ourselves. And there is so much that our nation has not grieved, not repented from, and we are in the consequences of that.Speaker 1 (21:53):I was just thinking that Mathias, it's like we're asking one another to make meaning, but we're at a very base level of meaning making. We're trying to first discern, discern what is reality, and a lot of times we don't share reality, but when you're a baby, the reality is your caregiver hopefully, or even the absence of you become accustomed to that. And so I think we've become accustomed to this sense of almost this indoctrination of a certain type of religion, which I would call white evangelical Christianity, where they're telling you, I can make sense of all of this from the perspective of race. I can do that for you. Whether they talk about it explicitly or not, they're like, I can tell you what's good and bad from this perspective, but then if you add in how do you make sense of all the Christians vote for Trump and 84% of African-Americans are going to vote for Kamala Harris. I grew up thinking, are those people not Christians? I didn't know as a kid, I was raised with my father. I didn't understand, didn't make sense to me, but I thought, how could so many people as a child, I actually had this thought, how could so many people not know Jesus, but go to church and how could all these people know Jesus and say they're going to heaven? It never made sense to me.Speaker 3 (23:19):I mean, what you're saying, Danielle, is probably why there is a very clear historical and present day distinction between white evangelism and the black church. That's why those two things exist in different spaces because even from the very beginning, white evangelicalism or what became white evangelicalism advocated for slavery, and Frederick Douglass learned how to read by reading the scripture at risk to his own life and to the white slave owner who taught him how to read. And once he learned to read and absorbed the scriptures for himself, his comment is there is no greater dichotomy than the Christianity of this world and the Christianity of scripture. And so your sense that it doesn't make any sense is as old as the first enslaved African who knew how to understand the God of the Bible for him or herself and started to say out loud, we got problems, Houston.Speaker 1 (24:39):Yeah, I remember that as a young child asking that question because it just never made sense to me. And obviously I understand now, but as a kid you grow up with a certain particular family, a Mexican mom, a white father. I didn't know how to make sense of that.Speaker 3 (25:04):I mean, you say, oh, even now I understand and I want to go. You do. I don't explain that to me. I mean, there's a certain sense in which I think we're all in many ways, and I say all the country as a whole church, the American church as a whole trying to make sense of what is that, what was that and what do we do now that the modern sort of white evangelical movement is essentially the Christianity of our entire generation. And so now that that's being called into question in a way that suggests that perhaps it is white and it's religious, but it might not in fact be the Christianity of the Bible. Now what do we do? And I've spent some time in recent years with you, Danielle, in some Native American spaces in the presence of theologians who reckoned with things of God from a Native American perspective.(26:09):And if nothing else, I have learned there's a whole bunch. I don't know about what it means to walk with the God of the Bible and that my native brothers and sisters know some things I don't know, and I am kind of mad about it. I'm kind of angry actually about what it is they know that was kept from me that I was taught to dismiss because the author of those ideas didn't look like the white Jesus whose picture was in my Bible or on the vacation Bible school curriculum or whatever. I'm sort of angry at the wisdom they hold for what it means to be a follower of what I think in many native spaces they would refer to as creator, and that was withheld from me. That would've changed the way, enhanced the way I understand this place of faith. And something that white evangel and evangelicalism expressly said was heresy was of the devil was to be ignored or dismissed or dismantled or buried.Speaker 1 (27:31):I mean, you have Tucker Carlson referring to Trump as daddy in a recent speech. So you then have this figure that can say, Hey, little kids, don't worry. Your worldview is okay. It's still right and let me make sense of it. I can make sense of it for you with X, Y, Z policies with racist rhetoric and banter. I can do anything I want. I can show up in Madison Square Garden and replicate this horrific political rally and I can do it and everybody will be okay with it, even if they're not okay, they're not going to stop me. So we still have a meaning maker out there. I mean, he is not making my meaning, but he's making meaning. For a lot of folks.Speaker 3 (28:29):It is even worse than that. There's a couple of documentaries that are out now. One's called Bad Faith, the other one's called God and Country, and in one of them, I think it was Bad Faith, and they're talking about the rise of Christian nationalism. For me, as a person of faith, one of my biggest questions has always been, there's nothing about this man's rhetoric that remotely reflects anything I ever learned in every Sunday school class and every vacation Bible school, in every Bible study and every church service I've ever been to. He is boldly antithetical to all of it.(29:06):And he says that out loud, right back to his comments about, no, I've never asked God for forgiveness because I've never done anything that warranted forgiveness that is antithetical to the heart of evangelical Christianity that asserts that the only way to God and to heaven in the afterlife is through the person of Jesus Christ. And so every person has to admit their own sin and then accept Christ as the atonement for that sin. And he bluntly says, I don't do that. Right. So my question has always been, I don't get it right. Two plus two is now four in your world. So how are 80% of evangelicals or higher voting for this man? And in that movie, bad faith, they talk about, they make reference to the tradition of Old Testament scripture of a king who is not a follower of God, who God sort of uses anyway towards the bent of his own will.(30:18):And there's probably a number of references in Old Testament scripture if I was an Old Testament theologian, some of the people who have invested in me, I could give you names and places and dates. I can't do that. But there is a tradition of that sort of space being held and the notion what's being taught in some of these churches on Sundays and on Wednesday night Bible study is that's who he is. That's who Trump is in a religious framework. And so he gets a pass and permission to be as outlandish and as provocative and as mean spirited and as dare I say, evil or bad as he wants to be. And there is no accountability for him in this life, or the next one, which I don't even know what to say to that, except it's the genius move to gaslight an entire generation of Christians that will probably take hold and be with us for far longer than Trump is on the political landscape.Speaker 2 (31:29):I am not fully convinced it's gaslighting. On one hand it is. They're saying one thing, doing another. It absolutely is by definition. And I think growing up in white evangelicalism, there is, at least for the men, I think an implicit belief, I don't even think it's explicit. It's becoming explicit that they get that past too. It functions on those passes, those senses of we don't have to hold up to accountability. And I think we see that in all the sexual abuse scandals. We see that in the narcissism of so many white evangelical pastors. There is this sense of, as long as we're in this system, there isn't accountability. And so you can say one thing and do another, and it doesn't matter. You have God's authority over you and therefore it's okay. And so I think there's something, I'm right there with you, it doesn't make any sense, but I think it's also quite consistent with the way that authority has been structured within thoseSpeaker 1 (33:14):Spaces that you said that I felt like, I don't know if you ever get your heartbeat right in your neck, but I had it right there. Oh, yeah. I think that feels true. Yeah, it's gaslighting, but also it's meant to be that way.Speaker 3 (33:39):Do you think that that's new math or is that at the inception? What do you attribute the origin of that? And I don't disagree with you, I'm just sitting here like, damn, okay, so where does that come from and how long has it been there?Speaker 2 (34:04):I don't know. I have guesses. I think, how do you enslave an entire people without something like that and then found literal denominations that are structured on these power and authority? It goes back to what you were saying at the beginning, Rebecca, it's about power and accountability supports power.Speaker 3 (34:50):Yeah. Have you read The Color of Compromise?Speaker 2 (34:59):There's a documentary by that same name, right? The filmSpeaker 3 (35:02):There might beSpeaker 2 (35:05):See the film. Yeah.Speaker 3 (35:07):So he makes a comment in the book. He is writing this chapter about sort of the origins of the country and the country is as the colonies are being formed before it is a country, the colonists are in this sort of public debate about slavery and Christianity. And at least in tissie's research, there's sort of this group of colonists who come to the United States or what will become the US for the sake of proselytizing, evangelizing who they term savage, native and then enslaved Africans. And they're having this public conversation about does the conversion of a native or an African to Christianity remove them from slavery, essentially? Can you theologically own someone who's a profess child of God?(36:32):And Tse says that the origin of that debate has to do with an old English law that said that you can't enslave someone who is of the faith. And I remember reading that and thinking to myself, there's something wrong with the logic that you think you have the right to own any human being regardless of their faith belief system or not. There's something wrong with the premise in general that you believe as another human being, you have the right to own or exercise dominion over another human soul. So those are the things that go across my mind as I listen to you talk and propose the notion that this issue has been there, this flaw in the thinking has been there from the beginning.Speaker 1 (37:40):I was just thinking, I am reading this book by Paola Ramos about defectors and how Latinos in the US have moved to the far right, and she makes a case that the faith of the Spaniards told them that in order to achieve superiority, they should basically make babies with the indigenous peoples of the Americas. And they went about and did that. And then I know we always think popular literature, the United States, oh, India has this caste system. That's what people say, but really Latin America has a really complex caste system too. And to which after they brought over, and Rebecca and I know Matthias, you guys know this, but after they brought over stole African human bodies, a majority of them came Latin America, what we know as Latin America, they didn't come here to the United States to the continental us. And so then you have this alliance then between, and I'll bring it back to politics between these mixed Spaniards with indigenous folks also in enslaving Africans.(38:56):So then you get to our political commentary and you're recruiting Latinos then to join the Evangelical white church movement. And they've often been demonized and excluded in spaces because of citizenship, which adds its own complexity where African-Americans, now they have citizenship right now on the current day, but then you have these Latinos that it can be born or they're brought over on daca. So then you have this complexity where not only is there this historical century hating of African-Americans and black folks in Latino culture, but you also have this sense of that to get ahead, you have to align with white folks to come against African-Americans. You have all of that in the mix, and also then you also have to deny yourself and the fact that you have African heritage and indigenous heritage, so it's this huge mind fuck, right? How do you make sense of that colonial jargon in the political landscape? And then how does a Latino think, how do they actually encounter the nuance of their humanity and all of that, but complexly set up by the Spanish who said, we're going to enslave this X people group. In the meantime, we'll just mix our mix with this certain race, but the white people will be more dominant. And so you see that all comes into the United States politic and who gets to be human and who gets not to be human.Speaker 3 (40:44):I mean, in some ways, Daniel, you're pointing out that, and I think this goes back to math's point of several minutes ago, none of this is new under the sun. All of this is just current day manifestations or reenactments of a racialized dynamic that's been in play since forever, since even before maybe even the American colonies, right? Because what happened in terms of the transatlantic slave trade in Latin America predates some of that.Speaker 2 (41:18):Yeah. I mean, I think about England colonizing a huge portion of the world under the name of their faith that requires quite a distancing from accountability in humanity. Then you get an extreme fringe of those folks starting their own colonies.Speaker 3 (41:47):I mean, it does make me think, and my Pentecostalism is about the show, but it does make me think that there's something about this whole dynamic that's starting to feel really ancient and very old patterns that have been in place, and to me suggests from a spiritual standpoint, an enemy that is organized and intentional, and I have begun to wonder less than a week out from the election, what's the game plan if the election doesn't go the way I hope it does? What happens if America decides to give into its lesser urges as it has done in the past, and choose a path that is contrary and antithetical to its ideals what we're going to do? I ask that not even from a practical standpoint as much as spiritually speaking, how am I going to breathe and how am I going to make meaning of what you do with a world where that's the reality? We were talking before we got on air about the rally in Times Square and we can rail against it all we want, but there was hundreds of thousands of people there saying, yeah, let's do that.Speaker 4 (43:40):That scares me. AndSpeaker 2 (43:52):It doesn't go away. Even if Harris wins, I think your question of what do we do if Trump wins? It's a sobering question. It's a terrifying question, but I think it's also a very similar question of even if she wins, what do we do? What do we do? These people don't magically disappear.Speaker 1 (44:30):We're going to have to do no matter what. I just feel like there has to be some sort of, like you said, Mathias, just processing of the grief of our past because it's chasing us. You can hear it in each of our stories. It is just chasing us what we've been a part of, what we've been asked to give up. And I think America, well, the United States, not America, but the United States is terrified of what it would mean if it had to face that kind of grief.Speaker 3 (45:23):I don't know about that, Danielle, because for there to be terror would mean that you have had some conscious admission that something is gravely wrong. And I'm not even sure if we're there yet. I think America as a whole has a whole lot of defense mechanisms and coping mechanisms in place, so they never even have to get that far. And I don't know what you call that, what comes before the terror, right? Because terror would mean some part of you has admitted something, and I just don't know if we're there. And that's just me meandering through a thought process. ButSpeaker 1 (46:19):Oh, that's scary too, right? I think you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we're going to bump up against our time. I know, Mathias, you have something coming up too, but any final thoughts? I don't expect us to solve anything or wrap it up, butSpeaker 2 (46:47):I'm just noting how I'm feeling and there's something both sobering and grounding about this conversation. I don't think we've covered really any kind of necessarily new territory, but to continue to speak these things, it's so brain, but it's also like, okay, we can ground ourselves in these things though. These things are true and it's terrible, but when we ground ourselves, we have ground just, and that feels different from some of the up in the air anxiety I was feeling before coming to this coverage, just the general anxiety of the election that is so pervasive. So that's a shift.Speaker 3 (47:53):I think I found myself looking back a lot in recent days back to the history of the story of African hyphen Americans in the United States, back to some fundamental things that I learned about my faith early on. And I have a sense of needing to return to those things as part of grounding that regardless of what happens in the next week or the next several months or even the next six months, we have been here before as a country, as a people, and we have survived it, and we will do so again. If I think about the black national anthem, God of our weary years, God of our silent tears, and I have found myself needing to return to those traditions and those truths, and I think I'll stay there for as long as my mind and my body and my emotions will allow me to as a way of breathing through the next several days. I mean, talk to me on November 6th. That might be in a very different place, or January 6th or January 20th, but for today, I find myself looking back, I have some curiosity for each of you. What are those traditions for you, in your own spaces, in your family, in your culture, in your people? What are the things that have grounded you in the past, and can they ground you again going forward?Speaker 2 (49:43):I'm sitting here finding myself wanting to come up with some beautiful answer. And the reality is I don't know that I have a beautiful answer. It's a difficult task.Speaker 1 (50:00):Yeah. I mean, no, we're wrapping up. I can't give you anything clever except I think what comes to mind is I often just tell myself just the next hour, the next day, sometimes I don't even think about tomorrow. I tell myself, don't rush too much. You don't know what's in tomorrow. Today's going to be okay. So I kind of coach myself up like stay in the moment.Speaker 3 (50:38):And in all fairness, Danielle, your people, if you will, are facing a very different kind of threat under a Trump presidency than mine are, and that is, I'm firmly of the belief if he's going to come for one of us, eventually he will come for all of us. But I'm also very aware that the most pressing existential threat is coming against people of Latinx descent people who very well may be American citizens, are facing the potential reality that won't matter. And so your sense of blackness gay through the next hour, I'm good. I have a lot of respect for what these days are requiring of you. Thank you.Speaker 1 (51:43):Thanks for hopping on here with me, guys.Speaker 2 (51:47):Thank you.   Well, first I guess I would have to believe that there was or is an actual political dialogue taking place that I could potentially be a part of. And honestly, I'm not sure that I believe that.

324. The Embodied Path to Healing Racialized Trauma with Resmaa Menakem Author, therapist, licensed clinical worker, racialized trauma expert, Resmaa Menakem discusses the concepts of somatic abolitionism, and the importance of embodied anti-racist practices.  Discover:  -The difference between clean and dirty pain; -What white people need to do in order to help create an anti-racist society; and -Why we should shift from looking at the personal to looking at the historical to heal our traumas. On Resmaa: Resmaa Menakem is an author, agent of change, therapist, and licensed clinical worker specializing in racialized trauma, communal healing, and cultural first aid. As the leading proponent of Somatic Abolitionism – an embodied anti-racist practice for living and culture building – Resmaa is the founder of Justice Leadership Solutions and the Cultural Somatics Institute. Resmaa works at the intersections of anti-racism, communal healing, and embodied purpose, and is the author of the New York Times bestseller My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies, The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating Our Nation's Upheaval and Racial Reckoning, Monsters in Love: Why Your Partner Sometimes Drives You Crazy—And What You Can Do About It, and The Stories from My Grandmother's Hands, a children's picture book with actor T. Mychael Rambo and illustrator Leroy Campbell. In 2023, Resmaa released an on-demand self-paced course titled Healing Racialized Trauma: Somatic Abolitionism for Every Body. You can learn more about Resmaa and his work at www.resmaa.com. Work with Resmaa: https://blackoctopussociety.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Here's what I would say: peace will happen when people invest in cultivating peace as opposed to war. Peace will happen. And one thing I know, for me, I know peace, I know I will never see it, but maybe I can put something in place to where I leave something here and my children's, children's, children's grandchildren can nibble off of and feed on what I've left here the same way I feed off of Frederick Douglass's stuff.” So says therapist and social worker Resmaa Menakem, author of the New York Times bestseller My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending our Hearts and Bodies and originator of the Somatic Abolitionist movement. I met Resmaa many years ago, when he was one of the few voices in this space—Resmaa calls himself a communal provocateur and this is true, as his work challenges all of us to recognize and acknowledge that we're scared. And that much of this fear is ancient. We were supposed to talk today about trauma in relationships, but our time together took a different turn—Resmaa jumped at the opportunity to put me in my familial and familiar fear. It's hard, or at least it was for me, but hopefully you'll stick with us to see how this works. This is the third part of a series on trauma, and it won't surprise you to hear that Resmaa also trained with Peter Levine. MORE FROM RESMAA MENAKEM: My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending our Hearts and Bodies Monsters in Love: Why Your Partner Sometimes Drives You Crazy—And What You Can Do About It The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating Our Nation's Upheaval and Racial Reckoning Resmaa's Website Follow Resmaa on Instagram RELATED EPISODES: PART 1: James Gordon, M.D., “A Toolkit for Working with Trauma” PART 2: Peter Levine, Ph.D, “Where Trauma Lives in the Body” Thomas Hubl: “Feeling into the Collective Presence” Gabor Maté, M.D.: “When Stress Becomes Illness” Galit Atlas, PhD: “Understanding Emotional Inheritance” Thomas Hubl: “Processing Our Collective Past” Richard Schwartz, PhD: “Recovering Every Part of Ourselves” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Resmaa Menakem, New York Times bestselling author of “My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies,” is a visionary Justice Leadership coach, organizational strategist and master trainer. Resmaa is a leading voice in today's conversation on racialized trauma.As a therapist, trauma specialist, and the founder of Justice Leadership Solutions, a leadership consultancy firm, Resmaa Menakem dedicates his expertise to coaching leaders through civil unrest, organizational change, and community building.For full show notes, visit: https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/2020/15/10/next-economy-now

This week we are thrilled to bring you a special conversation from a dear friend of the podcast, Bayo Akomolafe. Recorded while in Ghana for the Three Black Men Tour, this conversation features the voices of Bayo Akomolafe, Resmaa Menakem, Orland Bishop, Victoria Santos and Okhiogbe Omonblanks Omonhinmin, all of whom were involved with the conversation and presentation of the Three Black Men tour. In 2023, Resmaa, Bayo and Orland shared space as they visited three cities across three continents, tracing a diasporic route in reverse from Los Angeles in The United States, to Salvador in Brazil, and finally to Accra in Ghana. Through the tour, these three visionary Black men, sharing their leading edges, are inviting us into a radical re/imagination of how we respond to our time. They sense into emergent possibilities, triangulating toward a synthesis of new forms, new magic, and new directions.This conversation touches on the community of care that Bayo, Resmaa, Orland, Victoria, and Omon contributed to and experienced across the tour, the lessons they learned from this undertaking, and visions for what is to come. As each conversation partner emphasizes, “Blackness” is about far more than pigmentation. It is a call to re-story the world, to reimagine possibilities. Together they discuss the cracks, callings and visions that invite us into a paradigm shift that none of us could imagine alone.Learn more about the tour at https://www.threeblackmen.com and https://www.centerforhealingandliberation.comThe music that opens and closes this episode is by 808 X Ri. And with courtesy of the Leaving Records record label, the music breaks you heard today are  by The Growth Eternal. Artwork by Jon Marro. Visit our website at forthewild.world for the full episode description, references, and action points.For an extended version of this episode join us at patreon.com/forthewild.Support the show

Resmaa Menakem is a healer, therapist, and a licensed clinical social worker renowned for his bestseller My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. Resmaa is the originator and key advocate of Somatic Abolitionism, an embodied antiracist practice of living and culture building. In this episode, CIIS Vice President of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Rachel Bryant has a transformative conversation with Resmaa about his recent book, The Quaking of America, and how we can heal the historical and racialized trauma we carry in our bodies and our souls. This episode was recorded during a live online event on February 10th, 2023. You can also watch it on the CIIS Public Programs YouTube channel. A transcript is available at ciispod.com. To find out more about CIIS and public programs like this one, visit our website ciis.edu and connect with us on social media @ciispubprograms. We hope that each episode of our podcast provides opportunities for growth, and that our listeners will use them as a starting point for further introspection. Many of the topics discussed on our podcast have the potential to bring up feelings and emotional responses. If you or someone you know is in need of mental health care and support, here are some resources to find immediate help and future healing: -Visit 988lifeline.org or text, call, or chat with The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline by dialing 988 from anywhere in the U.S. to be connected immediately with a trained counselor. Please note that 988 staff are required to take all action necessary to secure the safety of a caller and initiate emergency response with or without the caller's consent if they are unwilling or unable to take action on their own behalf. -Visit thrivelifeline.org or text “THRIVE” to begin a conversation with a THRIVE Lifeline crisis responder 24/7/365, from anywhere: +1.313.662.8209. This confidential text line is available for individuals 18+ and is staffed by people in STEMM with marginalized identities. -Visit translifeline.org or call (877) 565-8860 in the U.S. or (877) 330-6366 in Canada to learn more and contact Trans Lifeline, who provides trans peer support divested from police. -Visit ciis.edu/counseling-and-acupuncture-clinics to learn more and schedule counseling sessions at one of our centers. -Find information about additional global helplines at https://www.befrienders.org.

For this week's show, we're digging into the First Voices Radio archives and revisiting Host Tiokasin Ghosthorse's conversation with author, Justice Leadership coach, organizational strategist, and master trainer Resmaa Menakem. Tiokasin and Resmaa discuss grief, trauma, Indigeneity, reclamation of cultures, and autonomous practicality separate from "identity" and history. Resmaa coaches leaders and people to rise through suffering's edge. His work focuses on making the invisible, embodied and visible. Resmaa Menakem is a healer, a longtime therapist, and a licensed clinical social worker who specializes in the healing of racialized trauma. He is also the founder of the Cultural Somatics Institute, a cultural trauma navigator, and a communal provocateur and coach. Resmaa is best known as the author of the New York Times bestseller “My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies,” and as the originator and key advocate of Somatic Abolitionism, an embodied antiracist practice of living and culture building. Resmaa has served as the director of counseling services for Tubman Family Alliance, a domestic violence treatment center in Minneapolis; the behavioral health director for African American Family Services in Minneapolis; a domestic violence counselor for Wilder Foundation; a divorce and family mediator; a social worker for Minneapolis Public Schools; a youth counselor; a community organizer; and a marketing strategist. Find Resmaa on Facebook, Instagram, X and LinkedIn. His website is https://www.resmaa.com/. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Ramirez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song) Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) (00:00:22) 2. Song Title: Come and Take It Artist: John Németh Album: Stronger Than Strong (2020) Label: Memphis Grease Records (00:26:07) 3. Song Title: Freedom Artist: Mau Power Feat. Archie Roach Album: The Show Will Go On (2014) Label: Aylan Styles (00:55:00) AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

Welcome to the 1st episode of season #4 of the Mind-Blowing Happiness® Podcast! Each month we speak to inspiring and empowering guests to help you rediscover your authenticity, realign with your values, and walk in your purpose for a juicier, more joyful life.In this episode, Trish kicks off the new season with New York Times Bestselling Author, Healer, and Trauma Specialist, Resmaa Menakem. Resmaa is the author of the New York Times bestseller, My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. He is also the author of The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating Our Nation's Upheaval and Racial Reckoning, and Monsters in Love: Why Your Partner Sometimes Drives You Crazy–and What You Can Do About It. Resmaa Menakem is a longtime therapist and a licensed clinical social worker who specializes in the healing of racialized trauma. He is the founder of the Cultural Somatics Institute and the originator and key advocate of Somatic Abolitionism. For ten years, Resmaa co-hosted a radio show with former U.S. Congressman Keith Ellison on KMOJ-FM in Minneapolis. He also hosted his own show, Resmaa in the Morning, on KMOJ. Resmaa has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on family dynamics, couples in conflict, and domestic violence. He has also been a guest on Charlamagne Tha God's Comedy Central TV program, Tha God's Honest Truth, and on iHeart radio's The Breakfast Club with DJ Envy.1:00 – Trish talks about how she learned of Resmaa's work3:50 – Resmaa talks about how he got into the work of healing8:40 – Resmaa explains "somatic abolitionism"12:00 – Trish and Resmaa address the concept of "wokeness"13:15 – Resmaa gives historical context to wokeness and "fugitiveness"17:05 – Trish and Resmaa talk about the impact of Jan 6 and the potential for a Civil War18:54 - Resmaa discusses how "symbols of our feral past" are part of our present20:30 - Resmaa examines the "training ground" of Jan 623:00 – Resmaa explains the value and "currency" of whiteness23:40 - Resmaa shares the mistake in his bestselling book, My Grandmother's Hands24:50 – Trish and Resmaa discuss the reason for the creation of "white supremacy" 26:15 – Resmaa explains why black and brown people should seek each other out27:00 - Resmaa explains that race has a "charge"28:40 - Trish talks about the need to awaken white compassion instead of tears29:53 - Resmaa offers his recommendation for personal growth in mainstream communities31:30 - Resmaa explains "bodies and logic"35:00 - Resmaa explains the concept of "generativeness"37:37 - Resmaa discusses the acronym, "VIMBASI" and how to reclaim the "6 intelligences"40:00 - Trish talks about her work with Black women and busyness40:30 - Resmaa talks about how rest for Black women is revolutionary41:50 - Trish recalls the consistency of images of white women being pampered and resting43:30 - Resmaa explains why the "structure" wants free labor45:00 - Resmaa encourages you to think of your body as a "toy box" instead of a "toolbox"45:20 - Trish talks about the shame of body rest and pleasure46:00 - Resmaa describes a powerful embodied mirror practice47:19 - Trish talks about the importance of nurturing the physical body48:00 - Resmaa discusses the power of pausing49:20 - Resmaa dives into pain and healing54:00 - Resmaa explains that most people don't look at or hold their own bodies54:50 - Trish and Resmaa share the strange childhood behavior they have in common56:00 - Trish and Resmaa talk about how to prepare for whatever is coming58:38 - Resmaa shares his new children's book projectLearn more about Resmaa Menakem's work and donate to his children's book project at https://www.resmaa.com/Learn more about Trish Ahjel Roberts' work and schedule a Clarity Call at https://TrishAhjelRoberts.com to learn about the 2024 Ghana Soul-Healing Retreat, Mind-Blowing Happiness Private Coaching, Finding Freedom Book Coaching, Passion Quest 6-Week Mind-Body-Soul Refresh for Black Women, and more!Follow @TrishAhjelRoberts on social media and get your complimentary copy of the Black Girl Joy Toolkit and the Mind-Blowing Happiness® Guide to Self-Careep52/s4/ep1

Resmaa Menakem is the author of “My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending our Hearts and Bodies,” published in September 2017, which appeared on the New York Times bestseller list in May 2021 as well as "The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating our Nation's Upheaval and Racial Reckoning," published in 2022. Resmaa is the founder of the Cultural Somatics Institute. He also wrote Monsters in Love: Why Your Partner Sometimes Drives You Crazy- and he tells us what to do about it. He has done more interviews than I can count, including the Breakfast Club. Resmaa has single-handedly changed JD and many others' professional and personal life. What You Will Hear:The Quaking of AmericaHealing in and through the bodyWhat do bodies of culture need to do to continue thriving and moving forwardWhite bodies deflecting white body supremacy and embodied gnawingThe growth area = gnawing and discomfortThe soil of AmericaTrauma Trump and learned templates (victim and perpetrator)The MirrorWhat's next for ResmaaQuotes:“Recent studies and discoveries increasingly point out that we heal primarily in and through the body, not just through the rational brain. We can all create more opportunities for growth in our nervous system, but we do this primarily through what our bodies experience and do not through what we think or realize cognitively.”“We learn from what our parents or our care caregivers recoil from and lean into, not just by what the instructions that they give to us.”“You are not defective.”“Bodies of culture have been gnawing at us every moment we live because racial trauma persists.”“Embodied gnawing is the way towards generative knowledge. You cannot get knowledge without gnawing.”“The growth area is actually in the shit that you don't like to do.”“The Dark Ages wasn't the dark ages because motherfuckers turned off the light. It was the Dark Ages because it was some brutal, foul shit happening from powerful white bodies to less powerful white bodies.”“The plantation organized white people.”“White folks have created a world that is on fucking fire, like literally on fire, and we keep trying to take our buckets and throw water on it, and they keep squeezing kerosene on the other side.”MentionedMy Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and BodiesThe Quaking of AmericaResmaa MenakemMama Rose Underground BooksPenumbra Theater GroupI AM Music Group

Resmaa Menakem is the author of “My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending our Hearts and Bodies,” published in September 2017, which appeared on the New York Times bestseller list in May 2021 as well as "The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating our Nation's Upheaval and Racial Reckoning," published in 2022. Resmaa is the founder of the Cultural Somatics Institute. He also wrote Monsters in Love: Why Your Partner Sometimes Drives You Crazy- and he tells us what to do about it. He has done more interviews than I can count, including the Breakfast Club. Resmaa has single handedly changed my professional and personal life and numerous others. What You Will Hear:The catalyst and ripple effect of My Grandmother's Hands IatrogenesisWhite supremacy trauma and how it can manifest in culture, family traits, personality traits, et cetera.Decontextualizing trauma The Plantation and white body supremacyClean pain vs dirty pain and white feralityOur virtues and our limitationsHow white bodies can hold each other accountableTools vs toysThe pervasiveness and persistence of white body supremacyHuman growth and healingPrivilege vs advantageLiberatory work and appealing to the kindness of white peopleQuotes:“Trauma works in alignment with your virtues. Trauma works in alignment with what you do best. Trauma works in alignment with what fuels you.”“The white body deems and has deemed itself the supreme standard by which all bodies, humanity shall be measured structurally and philosophically.”“The most enduring structure in America is the plantation.”“White bodies have collective understanding or efficacy when it comes to race.”“A key factor in the perpetration of white body supremacy is many people's refusal to experience clean pain around the myth of race. Instead, usually out of fear, they choose the dirty pain of silence and avoidance. And inevitably or invariably, Prolong the pain.”“Our virtues are wrapped inside of our limitations. It is only when we are close in proximity to others that we begin to intimately explore the boundaries of virtues by slamming into our limit limitations.”“White folks want to do good shit and wanna do good things when it comes to race but they have not developed the conditioning and done any conditioning around race communally……they have to begin to get together in a room and sit with each other and try and work with not a book club. A book club is like crack to a white woman.”“When you're talking about liberatory work, you're talking about a toy box, an exploration, a sitting with I don't know if this is gonna work, but I'm gonna try it anyway. That's different than tools.”“White body supremacy is the water, not the shark.”“You can both be brutalized by something and be benefited by the brutalization at the same time.”“In today's America, we tend to think of healing as something binary, either we're broken or we're healed from that brokenness, but that's not how healing operates. It's almost neverHow human growth works.”“What has happened to our peoples and continues to happen to our people ain't happening to our people individually. It's happening communally. So only developing individual response to a communal horror is inadequate. It's not enough.”“White folks are not privileged by white body supremacy. They're advantaged by white body supremacy.”MentionedMy Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and BodiesI AM...

We know that we're living in a critical time in human history. We know that we can no longer say, "It's not my responsibility." What is it that this time begs us to see? In this podcast, Tami Simon joins visionary leaders Bayo Akomolafe, Orland Bishop, and Resmaa Menakem for a compelling conversation about the intersection of past, present, and future and the creation of new rituals and pathways for healing, equity, and belonging for all people.  Tune in as Bayo, Orland, and Resmaa discuss with Tami: "facing the monstrous" and reconciling that which we've chosen to avoid; how transformation is inevitably disabling; stopping the propagation of violence and fear in the human psyche; the metaphor of the fissure in the road; the power of ritual to foster inclusion and "metabolize" trauma; initiating the shift from the profane to the sacred; tapping the generative energies awaiting expression; imaginal cells and the analogy of the caterpillar and the butterfly; the evolution of music and trusting the maturation of creative acts; the Trickster archetype, and how oppression is never complete; getting out of the habit of predicting what comes next; and more. Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

It's Black History Month, so we are celebrating 4 Black Authors who are changing history by sharing their solutions. Resmaa Menakem is a fellow social worker who wrote My Grandmother's Hands and I discuss how this book has impacted me, my work and offered incredibly useful tools for HEALING within families and our greater culture. You can find Resmaa's work here https://www.resmaa.com/about and My Grandmother's Hands here https://amzn.to/3DCnaGo Stay tuned for our next episode where we explore bell hooks All About Love. Wanna work with me? Leave me feedback? You can find my social media, tools and podcast here https://linktr.ee/cloudedcompass

As we transition out of both a Mars and Mercury Retrograde this month, I'm looking forward to having a better relationship with my body.  Sometimes I overwork myself. Sometimes I, unfortunately, punish my body by consuming things I don't think really suit it. Sometimes I push my body past its limits. So this year, my intention is I want to listen more to what my body is asking for. I'm also looking forward to taking Foundations in Somatic Abolitionism with Resmaa Menakem with my colleagues and past podcast guests Rayell Grayson and Sarah Suzuki. We're really delighted to get to learn directly from Resmaa. I recommend checking out his books, courses, and other media! Support for mental health workers: If you work in the mental health field and are looking for support from like-minded people, check out our third installment of the Wounded Healers Virtual Group. It's a juicy, sweet, and really cool place to connect.  Virtual community for group practice owners: I offer a working collective for group therapy practice owners who want to lead from the heart while building a thriving, ethical business. Join us at Wounded Healers as Leaders. Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website: www.headheartbiztherapy.com/podcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartBizTherapy/ Instagram: @headheartbiztherapy

In today's episode, we are joined by New York Times bestselling author Resmaa Menakem. Resmaa is returning to the podcast to discuss his new book “The Quaking of America”, where he takes a deeper dive into structural racism and its roots in American politics and the political landscape today. We discuss the January 6th insurrection and the path forward during heightened times in such a divided nation. Show notes: Structural racism today and how we got here - 02:11 The Quaking of America - 04:16 Where the inspiration to write this book came from - 07:52 What individuals can do and what the collective needs to do - 25:23 The origins of humans on this planet and how that impacts all of us- 36:06 To learn more about Resmaa Menakem: https://www.resmaa.com/ *** How you can help others in a big way... If you enjoy the Higher Practice Podcast, please leave a quick review on the Apple Podcast app. It makes a big difference in getting the word out to other people who will benefit from this podcast. Simply, click on the show on your podcast app>scroll down to the bottom of all the episodes>in the ratings and reviews section tap stars to rate>click write a review. Want more? For show notes and more information, visit https://psychiatryinstitute.com/podcast/ Sign up for our newsletter and to receive ongoing information for optimal mental health: email.psychiatryinstitute.com If you're a provider visit https://psychiatryinstitute.com/ If you're interested in patient care visit: www.psychiatrycenters.com For provider education reach out to: info@psychiatryinstitute.com For patient care reach out to: info@psychiatrycenters.com

This week we're joined by author and body healer, Resmaa Menakem. With the release of his new book, The Quaking of America, we discuss Black liberation (5:09), the ‘white-body supremacy' of January 6th (7:41), the implications of America's conservatism (20:08), why there's a failure to communicate across the aisle (25:03), the pernicious paradigm that ‘white guilt' creates (32:44), and what it will take for us to have an embodied, anti-racist culture (39:25). On the back half, Resmaa explains a few of the body practices from his new book (47:26), how to prepare the nervous system for somatic abolitionism (52:32) and a potential Civil War (55:32). To close, ahead of the midterms, we unpack the blurred lines between Democrats and the GOP (1:01:06), the potential consequences of our conversation (1:03:34), and, ultimately, Resmaa's hope for liberation (1:07:10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is part 2 of a two-part episode with Resmaa Menakem (he/him). In this segment, we discuss the origin of Resmaa's book The Quaking of America and how we can be cultivating joy and healing in community. Support Resmaa: His new book The Quaking of America is out now Support the show: Buy audiobooks from Libro.fm using code ASITSHOULDBE at checkout to get 2 books for the price of 1.

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This week we continue our conversation with Resmaa Menakem, NY Times bestselling author of My Grandmother's Hands, on the impact of generational trauma and other Black things. Resmaa's latest book, The Quaking of America is available now wherever books are sold. IG @resmaamenakem ~ For more content, subscribe to our Patreon (patreon.com/smartfunnyandblack)! ~ Design like a pro with Canva Pro! Right now, you can get a FREE 45-day extended trial when you use my promo code! Just go to Canva.me/DOSES to get your FREE 45-day extended trial. For simple, smart savings on your prescriptions, check GoodRx at GoodRX.com/doses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today, I will be engaging with Kevin Dedner. He serves as founder and CEO of Washington-D.C.-based Hurdle, which provides culturally intentional teletherapy to eliminate barriers that make it harder for people of color to get mental health care.Kevin is deeply connected to Hurdle's mission, having suffered a period of depression where he found the biggest challenge to effective care was finding the right therapist who could truly understand and connect with his struggles as an African American man. His company equips mental health professionals with the skills needed to effectively address issues of race, ethnicity, class, and culture and exists to ensure people can show up whole, operate with joy, and live with power. Kevin recently penned his first book, The Joy of the Disinherited: Essays on Oppression, Trauma and Black Mental Health. Through honest, captivating, and humane stories of his past and eye-opening research into the effects of racism on mental health, Kevin argues in his book that we must knock down the invisible barriers to mental healthcare.An award-winning public speaker, Kevin has over 20 years of public health experience. He currently serves as an Optum Clinical and Scientific Advisory Council member. In 2021, Kevin was named one of the top 50 in Digital Health by Rock Health. He was also recently named one of 75 Black healthcare leaders to know by Becker's Hospital Review.Kevin is a graduate of the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville and has a Master of Public Health from Benedictine University in Illinois.

This week we continue our conversation with Resmaa Menakem, NY Times bestselling author of My Grandmother's Hands, on the impact of generational trauma and other Black things. Resmaa's latest book, The Quaking of America is available now wherever books are sold.IG @resmaamenakem~For more content, subscribe to our Patreon (patreon.com/smartfunnyandblack)!~Design like a pro with Canva Pro! Right now, you can get a FREE 45-day extended trial when you use my promo code! Just go to Canva.me/DOSES to get your FREE 45-day extended trial.For simple, smart savings on your prescriptions, check GoodRx at GoodRX.com/doses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today, I will be engaging with Kevin Dedner. He serves as founder and CEO of Washington-D.C.-based Hurdle, which provides culturally intentional teletherapy to eliminate barriers that make it harder for people of color to get mental health care.Kevin is deeply connected to Hurdle's mission, having suffered a period of depression where he found the biggest challenge to effective care was finding the right therapist who could truly understand and connect with his struggles as an African American man. His company equips mental health professionals with the skills needed to effectively address issues of race, ethnicity, class, and culture and exists to ensure people can show up whole, operate with joy, and live with power. Kevin recently penned his first book, The Joy of the Disinherited: Essays on Oppression, Trauma and Black Mental Health. Through honest, captivating, and humane stories of his past and eye-opening research into the effects of racism on mental health, Kevin argues in his book that we must knock down the invisible barriers to mental healthcare.An award-winning public speaker, Kevin has over 20 years of public health experience. He currently serves as an Optum Clinical and Scientific Advisory Council member. In 2021, Kevin was named one of the top 50 in Digital Health by Rock Health. He was also recently named one of 75 Black healthcare leaders to know by Becker's Hospital Review.Kevin is a graduate of the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville and has a Master of Public Health from Benedictine University in Illinois.

This week we talk to Resmaa Menakem, NY Times bestselling author of My Grandmother's Hands, on the impact of generational trauma and other Black things. Resmaa's latest book, The Quaking of America is available now wherever books are sold. Make sure to come back for part 2 of our conversation next week. IG @resmaamenakem ~ For more content, subscribe to our Patreon (patreon.com/smartfunnyandblack)! ~ Continue your credit journey with Chime. Sign up takes only two minutes and doesn't affect your credit score. Get started at chime.com/doses. Comparing loan offers on Credit Karma is 100% free, won't affect your credit scores and could save you money. Ready to apply? Head to creditkarma.com/loanoffers to see personalized offers. Credit Karma. Apply with more confidence today. Download the FREE GetUpside App and use promo code DOSES to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more. Stop overpaying for shipping with Stamps.com. Sign up with promo code DOSES for a special offer that includes a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale. No long-term commitments or contracts. Just go to Stamps dot com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code DOSES. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we talk to Resmaa Menakem, NY Times bestselling author of My Grandmother's Hands, on the impact of generational trauma and other Black things. Resmaa's latest book, The Quaking of America is available now wherever books are sold. Make sure to come back for part 2 of our conversation next week.IG @resmaamenakem~For more content, subscribe to our Patreon (patreon.com/smartfunnyandblack)!~Continue your credit journey with Chime. Sign up takes only two minutes and doesn't affect your credit score. Get started at chime.com/doses. Comparing loan offers on Credit Karma is 100% free, won't affect your credit scores and could save you money. Ready to apply? Head to creditkarma.com/loanoffers to see personalized offers. Credit Karma. Apply with more confidence today.Download the FREE GetUpside App and use promo code DOSES to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more. Stop overpaying for shipping with Stamps.com. Sign up with promo code DOSES for a special offer that includes a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale. No long-term commitments or contracts. Just go to Stamps dot com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code DOSES. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be speaking with Stephanie Foo. She is the author of What My Bones Know: A Memoir Of Healing From Complex Trauma, the first literary memoir to tackle the science and psychology of complex PTSD. Previously, she was a producer at This American Life and helped create Snap Judgment. She's also had work in The New York Times, Vox, 99% Invisible and Reply All.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be speaking with Stephanie Foo. She is the author of What My Bones Know: A Memoir Of Healing From Complex Trauma, the first literary memoir to tackle the science and psychology of complex PTSD. Previously, she was a producer at This American Life and helped create Snap Judgment. She's also had work in The New York Times, Vox, 99% Invisible and Reply All.

Resmaa Menakem is an artist and psychotherapist. He is the author of several books including The New York Times bestseller My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. His new book is The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating Our Nations Upheaval & Racial Reckoning. He explains how white supremacy and life in a racist society such as the United States has a profound impact on black and brown people's mental, emotional, physical and psychological health and overall wellbeing. Resmaa also warns that American neofascism and Trumpism are existential threats not just to black and brown people – but to white people as well….even if most of the latter are in profound denial of that fact. He also explains what being a true “white ally” during a time of ascendant white supremacy and neofascism really means and how too many white folks – especially “good liberals” – are not prepared for what that obligation actually entails. Chauncey DeVega shares his recent life and death medical journey with Resmaa and what he learned about his brain and mind during a recent visit to the neurologist. Chauncey also warns that many good and well-intentioned Americans are being manipulated by Russian propaganda about the war in Ukraine. And Chauncey DeVega shares his detailed review of the movie The Batman. SELECTED LINKS OF INTEREST FOR THIS EPISODE OF THE CHAUNCEY DEVEGA SHOW Donald Trump, Michael Flynn call for violence — they're not kidding, but the media doesn't care Don't be fooled: The GOP love affair with Putin is worse than it looks How Are Putin's Far-Right Fans in the West Reacting to His War? Putin's Propaganda Machine Is What America's Far-Right Wants Ukraine war: 'My city's being shelled, but mum won't believe me' WHERE CAN YOU FIND ME? On Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaunceydevega On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chauncey.devega My email: chaunceydevega@gmail.com HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THE CHAUNCEY DEVEGA SHOW? Via Paypal at ChaunceyDeVega.com Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thechaunceydevegashow Music at the end of this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show is by JC Brooks & the Uptown Sound. You can listen to some of their great music on Spotify.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be speaking with Dr. Rheeda Walker. She is an award-winning Professor of psychology, fellow in the American Psychological Association, and author of The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health. She is also an expert scholar who has published more than 60 scientific papers on African American mental health, suicide risk, and emotional resilience.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be speaking with Dr. Rheeda Walker. She is an award-winning Professor of psychology, fellow in the American Psychological Association, and author of The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health. She is also an expert scholar who has published more than 60 scientific papers on African American mental health, suicide risk, and emotional resilience.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be speaking with Dr. Rheeda Walker. She is an award-winning Professor of psychology, fellow in the American Psychological Association, and author of The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health. She is also an expert scholar who has published more than 60 scientific papers on African American mental health, suicide risk, and emotional resilience.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Baratunde Thurston. He holds space for hard and complex conversations with his blend of humor, wisdom, and compassion. Baratunde is an Emmy-nominated host who has worked for The Onion, produced for The Daily Show, advised the Obama White House, and wrote the New York Times bestseller How To Be Black. He's the creator and host of How To Citizen with Baratunde which Apple named one of its favorite podcasts of 2020 and for which he received the Social Impact Award at the 2021 iHeartRadio Podcast Awards. He's also a founding partner of the new media startup Puck. In 2019, he delivered what MSNBC's Brian Williams called “one of the greatest TED talks of all time.” Baratunde is unique in his ability to integrate and synthesize themes of race, culture, politics, and technology to explain where our nation is and where we can take it.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Baratunde Thurston. He holds space for hard and complex conversations with his blend of humor, wisdom, and compassion. Baratunde is an Emmy-nominated host who has worked for The Onion, produced for The Daily Show, advised the Obama White House, and wrote the New York Times bestseller How To Be Black. He's the creator and host of How To Citizen with Baratunde which Apple named one of its favorite podcasts of 2020 and for which he received the Social Impact Award at the 2021 iHeartRadio Podcast Awards. He's also a founding partner of the new media startup Puck. In 2019, he delivered what MSNBC's Brian Williams called “one of the greatest TED talks of all time.” Baratunde is unique in his ability to integrate and synthesize themes of race, culture, politics, and technology to explain where our nation is and where we can take it.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Baratunde Thurston. He holds space for hard and complex conversations with his blend of humor, wisdom, and compassion. Baratunde is an Emmy-nominated host who has worked for The Onion, produced for The Daily Show, advised the Obama White House, and wrote the New York Times bestseller How To Be Black. He's the creator and host of How To Citizen with Baratunde which Apple named one of its favorite podcasts of 2020 and for which he received the Social Impact Award at the 2021 iHeartRadio Podcast Awards. He's also a founding partner of the new media startup Puck. In 2019, he delivered what MSNBC's Brian Williams called “one of the greatest TED talks of all time.” Baratunde is unique in his ability to integrate and synthesize themes of race, culture, politics, and technology to explain where our nation is and where we can take it.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Lissa Rankin. She is a New York Times bestselling author of Mind Over Medicine and six other books, is a former OB/GYN physician, founder of the Whole Health Medicine Institute training program for doctors and therapists, radical remission researcher, and founder of the non-profit Heal At Last. After leaving her job in conventional medicine in 2007, Lissa began experimenting in her integrative medicine practice with what really helps resolve symptoms in people with chronic illness who have failed to improve with either conventional medicine or alternative medicine. All roads led to the same conclusion: People who are not responding to other treatments often have untreated, unhealed trauma, and treating that trauma can sometimes lead to seemingly miraculous radical remissions.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Lissa Rankin. She is a New York Times bestselling author of Mind Over Medicine and six other books, is a former OB/GYN physician, founder of the Whole Health Medicine Institute training program for doctors and therapists, radical remission researcher, and founder of the non-profit Heal At Last. After leaving her job in conventional medicine in 2007, Lissa began experimenting in her integrative medicine practice with what really helps resolve symptoms in people with chronic illness who have failed to improve with either conventional medicine or alternative medicine. All roads led to the same conclusion: People who are not responding to other treatments often have untreated, unhealed trauma, and treating that trauma can sometimes lead to seemingly miraculous radical remissions.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Lissa Rankin. She is a New York Times bestselling author of Mind Over Medicine and six other books, is a former OB/GYN physician, founder of the Whole Health Medicine Institute training program for doctors and therapists, radical remission researcher, and founder of the non-profit Heal At Last. After leaving her job in conventional medicine in 2007, Lissa began experimenting in her integrative medicine practice with what really helps resolve symptoms in people with chronic illness who have failed to improve with either conventional medicine or alternative medicine. All roads led to the same conclusion: People who are not responding to other treatments often have untreated, unhealed trauma, and treating that trauma can sometimes lead to seemingly miraculous radical remissions.

Welcome to The Guerilla Muse Podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Halim Ali. He is an activist, mentor, master facilitator, mental health professional and soon-to-be author aiming to transform traumatic experiences and lifestyles by restoring strong personal foundations, bringing back personal balance and implementing wellness tools to apply for a lifetime. He works directly with the Denver Metro community and its suburbs advocating for empowerment and mental health awareness to establish healthy American families. Through community events and programs ranging from youth leadership courses, adult male health and wellness counsels, educational seminars, and community services, Dr. Ali is for the people first, at all times. Cultural connector and advocate to so many voices in Denver, Colorado, he works hard in creating new movements that are direct, intentional and purposeful throughout all platforms of healthcare lending toward healthy families and communities.

Welcome to The Guerilla Muse Podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Halim Ali. He is an activist, mentor, master facilitator, mental health professional and soon-to-be author aiming to transform traumatic experiences and lifestyles by restoring strong personal foundations, bringing back personal balance and implementing wellness tools to apply for a lifetime. He works directly with the Denver Metro community and its suburbs advocating for empowerment and mental health awareness to establish healthy American families. Through community events and programs ranging from youth leadership courses, adult male health and wellness counsels, educational seminars, and community services, Dr. Ali is for the people first, at all times. Cultural connector and advocate to so many voices in Denver, Colorado, he works hard in creating new movements that are direct, intentional and purposeful throughout all platforms of healthcare lending toward healthy families and communities.

Welcome to The Guerilla Muse Podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Halim Ali. He is an activist, mentor, master facilitator, mental health professional and soon-to-be author aiming to transform traumatic experiences and lifestyles by restoring strong personal foundations, bringing back personal balance and implementing wellness tools to apply for a lifetime. He works directly with the Denver Metro community and its suburbs advocating for empowerment and mental health awareness to establish healthy American families. Through community events and programs ranging from youth leadership courses, adult male health and wellness counsels, educational seminars, and community services, Dr. Ali is for the people first, at all times. Cultural connector and advocate to so many voices in Denver, Colorado, he works hard in creating new movements that are direct, intentional and purposeful throughout all platforms of healthcare lending toward healthy families and communities.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse Podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Bahiyyah Muhammad. She is an Associate Professor of Criminology in the Department of Sociology at Howard University (HU) in the District of Columbia (DC). Dr. Muhammad is also Founding Director for the Higher Education in Prison (HEP) Programming across all three campuses at the university and the HU Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel. To date, Professor Muhammad has spearheaded HEP courses and innovative programs offered through Howard University's Schools of Law, Divinity, Communications, Fine Arts, and the College of Arts and Sciences. These graduate seminars and undergraduate classes have occurred in partnership with the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP), the DC Department of Corrections (DCDOC), the Virginia Department of Corrections (VADOC), and the Department of Youth Rehabilitation Services (DYRS) detention facilities in Maryland and Washington, DC. To date, approximately one thousand Howard students, alumni, faculty, incarcerated, and formerly incarcerated individuals have participated in classes inside prisons, jails, and detention facilities in D.C., Maryland, and Virginia. Under Dr. Muhammad's leadership, Howard University became the first HBCU to offer award-winning post-secondary education to incarcerated females, males, detained juveniles, and their families, simultaneously.Join the Amplify Voices Community. Feel free to text your questions to 310-582-5216 we would love to hear from you.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse Podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Bahiyyah Muhammad. She is an Associate Professor of Criminology in the Department of Sociology at Howard University (HU) in the District of Columbia (DC). Dr. Muhammad is also Founding Director for the Higher Education in Prison (HEP) Programming across all three campuses at the university and the HU Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel. To date, Professor Muhammad has spearheaded HEP courses and innovative programs offered through Howard University's Schools of Law, Divinity, Communications, Fine Arts, and the College of Arts and Sciences. These graduate seminars and undergraduate classes have occurred in partnership with the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP), the DC Department of Corrections (DCDOC), the Virginia Department of Corrections (VADOC), and the Department of Youth Rehabilitation Services (DYRS) detention facilities in Maryland and Washington, DC. To date, approximately one thousand Howard students, alumni, faculty, incarcerated, and formerly incarcerated individuals have participated in classes inside prisons, jails, and detention facilities in D.C., Maryland, and Virginia. Under Dr. Muhammad's leadership, Howard University became the first HBCU to offer award-winning post-secondary education to incarcerated females, males, detained juveniles, and their families, simultaneously.Join the Amplify Voices Community. Feel free to text your questions to 310-582-5216 we would love to hear from you.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse Podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Dr. Bahiyyah Muhammad. She is an Associate Professor of Criminology in the Department of Sociology at Howard University (HU) in the District of Columbia (DC). Dr. Muhammad is also Founding Director for the Higher Education in Prison (HEP) Programming across all three campuses at the university and the HU Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel. To date, Professor Muhammad has spearheaded HEP courses and innovative programs offered through Howard University's Schools of Law, Divinity, Communications, Fine Arts, and the College of Arts and Sciences. These graduate seminars and undergraduate classes have occurred in partnership with the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP), the DC Department of Corrections (DCDOC), the Virginia Department of Corrections (VADOC), and the Department of Youth Rehabilitation Services (DYRS) detention facilities in Maryland and Washington, DC. To date, approximately one thousand Howard students, alumni, faculty, incarcerated, and formerly incarcerated individuals have participated in classes inside prisons, jails, and detention facilities in D.C., Maryland, and Virginia. Under Dr. Muhammad's leadership, Howard University became the first HBCU to offer award-winning post-secondary education to incarcerated females, males, detained juveniles, and their families, simultaneously.Join the Amplify Voices Community. Feel free to text your questions to 310-582-5216 we would love to hear from you.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Brynn Tannehill. She is a graduate of the United States Naval Academy and the Air Force Institute of Technology with degrees in Computer Science and Operations Research. She is a Naval Aviator who did four deployments to locations such as the Adriatic, Middle East, and the North Atlantic. After leaving active duty she has continued to work in defense research, while as an advocate, writer, and researcher on LGBT civil rights issues and policy. She currently works at a think-tank in the Washington D.C. area as a senior analyst, where she lives with her wife and three children.Join the Amplify Voices Community. Feel free to text “GM” to 310-582-5216 we would love to hear from you.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Brynn Tannehill. She is a graduate of the United States Naval Academy and the Air Force Institute of Technology with degrees in Computer Science and Operations Research. She is a Naval Aviator who did four deployments to locations such as the Adriatic, Middle East, and the North Atlantic. After leaving active duty she has continued to work in defense research, while as an advocate, writer, and researcher on LGBT civil rights issues and policy. She currently works at a think-tank in the Washington D.C. area as a senior analyst, where she lives with her wife and three children.Join the Amplify Voices Community. Feel free to text “GM” to 310-582-5216 we would love to hear from you.

Welcome to the Guerilla Muse podcast with Resmaa. Today I will be interviewing Brynn Tannehill. She is a graduate of the United States Naval Academy and the Air Force Institute of Technology with degrees in Computer Science and Operations Research. She is a Naval Aviator who did four deployments to locations such as the Adriatic, Middle East, and the North Atlantic. After leaving active duty she has continued to work in defense research, while as an advocate, writer, and researcher on LGBT civil rights issues and policy. She currently works at a think-tank in the Washington D.C. area as a senior analyst, where she lives with her wife and three children.Join the Amplify Voices Community. Feel free to text “GM” to 310-582-5216 we would love to hear from you.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Carol Anderson. She is the Charles Howard Candler Professor of African American Studies at Emory University and author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Nation's Divide, a New York Times Bestseller, Washington Post Notable Book of 2016, and a National Book Critics Circle Award winner. She is also the author of THE SECOND: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America, Anderson's powerful assessment of the Second Amendment and how it was engineered to deny the rights of African Americans since its inception. Illuminating the history and impact of the amendment on Black Americans, THE SECOND is neither a “pro-gun” nor an “anti- gun” book. As Anderson explains, foundational to the creation of the Second Amendment, was the way that slavery and the fear of uprisings—and thus the fear of Black people—required, in the words of one colonist to, “keep a fearful monster in chains.” Access to guns was key. We, therefore, see the Founding Fathers mired in the racial politics of ratifying the U.S. Constitution and how that shaped the Second Amendment. In THE SECOND, Anderson boldly asserts that the Second Amendment is not about guns—it is about anti-Blackness. The ground beneath Stand Your Ground is like quicksand for African Americans.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Carol Anderson. She is the Charles Howard Candler Professor of African American Studies at Emory University and author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Nation's Divide, a New York Times Bestseller, Washington Post Notable Book of 2016, and a National Book Critics Circle Award winner. She is also the author of THE SECOND: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America, Anderson's powerful assessment of the Second Amendment and how it was engineered to deny the rights of African Americans since its inception. Illuminating the history and impact of the amendment on Black Americans, THE SECOND is neither a “pro-gun” nor an “anti- gun” book. As Anderson explains, foundational to the creation of the Second Amendment, was the way that slavery and the fear of uprisings—and thus the fear of Black people—required, in the words of one colonist to, “keep a fearful monster in chains.” Access to guns was key. We, therefore, see the Founding Fathers mired in the racial politics of ratifying the U.S. Constitution and how that shaped the Second Amendment. In THE SECOND, Anderson boldly asserts that the Second Amendment is not about guns—it is about anti-Blackness. The ground beneath Stand Your Ground is like quicksand for African Americans.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Carol Anderson. She is the Charles Howard Candler Professor of African American Studies at Emory University and author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Nation's Divide, a New York Times Bestseller, Washington Post Notable Book of 2016, and a National Book Critics Circle Award winner. She is also the author of THE SECOND: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America, Anderson's powerful assessment of the Second Amendment and how it was engineered to deny the rights of African Americans since its inception. Illuminating the history and impact of the amendment on Black Americans, THE SECOND is neither a “pro-gun” nor an “anti- gun” book. As Anderson explains, foundational to the creation of the Second Amendment, was the way that slavery and the fear of uprisings—and thus the fear of Black people—required, in the words of one colonist to, “keep a fearful monster in chains.” Access to guns was key. We, therefore, see the Founding Fathers mired in the racial politics of ratifying the U.S. Constitution and how that shaped the Second Amendment. In THE SECOND, Anderson boldly asserts that the Second Amendment is not about guns—it is about anti-Blackness. The ground beneath Stand Your Ground is like quicksand for African Americans.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Dr. Joy DeGruy. She holds two master's degrees in Social Work and Clinical psychology. Her doctorate degree is in Social Work research. Throughout her career, she has held numerous workshops and seminars and given lectures about her research focused on the intersection of racism, trauma, and American chattel slavery. Her book Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America's Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing shows its readers how the persistence of that intersection suffuses our daily lives. Indeed, Dr. DeGruy travels across the globe to share this message and has held these aforementioned lectures almost everywhere. She has graced her presence, time, and thoughts with—Morehouse School of Medicine, Smith College, Stonybrook College, Harvard University, Tulane University, Everett Community College, Fisk University, Oxford University, the Essence Music Festival, and the County of LA department of mental health. She has also done consulting work with Oprah Winfrey.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Dr. Joy DeGruy. She holds two master's degrees in Social Work and Clinical psychology. Her doctorate degree is in Social Work research. Throughout her career, she has held numerous workshops and seminars and given lectures about her research focused on the intersection of racism, trauma, and American chattel slavery. Her book Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America's Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing shows its readers how the persistence of that intersection suffuses our daily lives. Indeed, Dr. DeGruy travels across the globe to share this message and has held these aforementioned lectures almost everywhere. She has graced her presence, time, and thoughts with—Morehouse School of Medicine, Smith College, Stonybrook College, Harvard University, Tulane University, Everett Community College, Fisk University, Oxford University, the Essence Music Festival, and the County of LA department of mental health. She has also done consulting work with Oprah Winfrey.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Dr. Joy DeGruy. She holds two master's degrees in Social Work and Clinical psychology. Her doctorate degree is in Social Work research. Throughout her career, she has held numerous workshops and seminars and given lectures about her research focused on the intersection of racism, trauma, and American chattel slavery. Her book Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America's Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing shows its readers how the persistence of that intersection suffuses our daily lives. Indeed, Dr. DeGruy travels across the globe to share this message and has held these aforementioned lectures almost everywhere. She has graced her presence, time, and thoughts with—Morehouse School of Medicine, Smith College, Stonybrook College, Harvard University, Tulane University, Everett Community College, Fisk University, Oxford University, the Essence Music Festival, and the County of LA department of mental health. She has also done consulting work with Oprah Winfrey.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Nova Reid. Often described as a force to be reckoned with, Nova Reid is an Activist, TED speaker and author, with a mission to improve racial justice by helping people be the change they want to see by courageously unlearning their racism. Nova uses her professional background in mental wellbeing to encourage meaningful change from the inside out. She has worked with a variety of organizations including BT and Bloody Good Period and has an online anti-racism academy: Becoming Anti-Racist with Nova Reid. Nova regularly appears on BBC News, Sky News and BBC Radio as a media expert on race. In 2018, Nova was invited to attend the Royal Wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to provide expert media commentary on race. Nova is an accomplished public speaker and was headhunted by TEDx Frankfurt to deliver a talk on microaggressions which was upgraded as a TED talk in 2020. Nova was named one of the Top 100 Black British Women by the Black Magic Network, as part of International Women's Day 2019 and in November 2020 she was awarded a Precious Award for Social Impact for her work in racial justice. Nova is a passionate advocate for equity, collective healing and helping people use self-agency to role model change. Her debut book The Good Ally published by HarperCollins is out now

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Nova Reed. Often described as a force to be reckoned with, Nova Reid is an Activist, TED speaker and author, with a mission to improve racial justice by helping people be the change they want to see by courageously unlearning their racism. Nova uses her professional background in mental wellbeing to encourage meaningful change from the inside out. She has worked with a variety of organizations including BT and Bloody Good Period and has an online anti-racism academy: Becoming Anti-Racist with Nova Reid. Nova regularly appears on BBC News, Sky News and BBC Radio as a media expert on race. In 2018, Nova was invited to attend the Royal Wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to provide expert media commentary on race. Nova is an accomplished public speaker and was headhunted by TEDx Frankfurt to deliver a talk on microaggressions which was upgraded as a TED talk in 2020. Nova was named one of the Top 100 Black British Women by the Black Magic Network, as part of International Women's Day 2019 and in November 2020 she was awarded a Precious Award for Social Impact for her work in racial justice. Nova is a passionate advocate for equity, collective healing and helping people use self-agency to role model change. Her debut book The Good Ally published by HarperCollins is out now.

In today's episode, Resmaa will be speaking with Nova Reid. Often described as a force to be reckoned with, Nova Reid is an Activist, TED speaker and author, with a mission to improve racial justice by helping people be the change they want to see by courageously unlearning their racism. Nova uses her professional background in mental wellbeing to encourage meaningful change from the inside out. She has worked with a variety of organizations including BT and Bloody Good Period and has an online anti-racism academy: Becoming Anti-Racist with Nova Reid. Nova regularly appears on BBC News, Sky News and BBC Radio as a media expert on race. In 2018, Nova was invited to attend the Royal Wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to provide expert media commentary on race. Nova is an accomplished public speaker and was headhunted by TEDx Frankfurt to deliver a talk on microaggressions which was upgraded as a TED talk in 2020. Nova was named one of the Top 100 Black British Women by the Black Magic Network, as part of International Women's Day 2019 and in November 2020 she was awarded a Precious Award for Social Impact for her work in racial justice. Nova is a passionate advocate for equity, collective healing and helping people use self-agency to role model change. Her debut book The Good Ally published by HarperCollins is out now

Welcome to the unlikely leadership podcast with Audrey. And today is a special part one of a two part episode on a very powerful, timely and urgent dialogue of practices for us to be engaged in as leaders, which is trauma in leadership. How does trauma, historical trauma, recent family trauma, recent incident trauma, racial trauma, affect who we're being as we lead, and not just who we're being, but the outcome, the limits the patterns, the perpetual nature? Imagine, if a collective of us a critical mass of US leaders in all industries, touching 1000s upon hundreds of 1000s upon millions of lives, took on healing, what would be possible in that outcome? Resmaa Menakem is a healer, author, master coach and trauma specialist. He helps people communities and organizations heal from and build resilience around historical and racialized trauma through body centered psychology. He is a best selling author, a New York Times bestselling author of several books, including my grandmother's hands racialized trauma and the pathway to mending our hearts and our bodies, a deep exploration of how trauma affects us all. It combines theory and analysis with practical strategies for healing ourselves. Now, what you're going to hear and find is that the ability to metabolize trauma that is located store sickly in our bodies, is not a big aha moment. It is actually small practices over time, almost like siphoning out something I would imagine, right? So, grab a journal or a notebook, lean back, open your mind and your body for this two part conversation. Please stay tuned after the guest discussion for skill highlights. www.AmplifyVoices.io About Our Guest In addition to his work as a writer and therapist, Resmaa focuses his expertise on coaching other leaders to learn this embodied approach, including police chiefs, nonprofit executives, CEOs, athletic directors and managers, government leaders and many more. “While we see anger and violence in the streets of our country, the real battlefield is inside our bodies,” he says. “If we are to survive as a country, it is inside our bodies where this conflict needs to be resolved.” 

Welcome to the unlikely leadership podcast with Audrey. And today is a special part one of a two part episode on a very powerful, timely and urgent dialogue of practices for us to be engaged in as leaders, which is trauma in leadership. How does trauma, historical trauma, recent family trauma, recent incident trauma, racial trauma, affect who we're being as we lead, and not just who we're being, but the outcome, the limits the patterns, the perpetual nature? Imagine, if a collective of us a critical mass of US leaders in all industries, touching 1000s upon hundreds of 1000s upon millions of lives, took on healing, what would be possible in that outcome? Resmaa Menakem is a healer, author, master coach and trauma specialist. He helps people communities and organizations heal from and build resilience around historical and racialized trauma through body centered psychology. He is a best selling author, a New York Times bestselling author of several books, including my grandmother's hands racialized trauma and the pathway to mending our hearts and our bodies, a deep exploration of how trauma affects us all. It combines theory and analysis with practical strategies for healing ourselves. Now, what you're going to hear and find is that the ability to metabolize trauma that is located store sickly in our bodies, is not a big aha moment. It is actually small practices over time, almost like siphoning out something I would imagine, right? So, grab a journal or a notebook, lean back, open your mind and your body for this two part conversation. Please stay tuned after the guest discussion for skill highlights. www.AmplifyVoices.io About Our Guest In addition to his work as a writer and therapist, Resmaa focuses his expertise on coaching other leaders to learn this embodied approach, including police chiefs, nonprofit executives, CEOs, athletic directors and managers, government leaders and many more. “While we see anger and violence in the streets of our country, the real battlefield is inside our bodies,” he says. “If we are to survive as a country, it is inside our bodies where this conflict needs to be resolved.” 

Welcome to the unlikely leadership podcast with Audrey. And today is a special part one of a two part episode on a very powerful, timely and urgent dialogue of practices for us to be engaged in as leaders, which is trauma in leadership. How does trauma, historical trauma, recent family trauma, recent incident trauma, racial trauma, affect who we're being as we lead, and not just who we're being, but the outcome, the limits the patterns, the perpetual nature? Imagine, if a collective of us a critical mass of US leaders in all industries, touching 1000s upon hundreds of 1000s upon millions of lives, took on healing, what would be possible in that outcome? Resmaa Menakem is a healer, author, master coach and trauma specialist. He helps people communities and organizations heal from and build resilience around historical and racialized trauma through body centered psychology. He is a best selling author, a New York Times bestselling author of several books, including my grandmother's hands racialized trauma and the pathway to mending our hearts and our bodies, a deep exploration of how trauma affects us all. It combines theory and analysis with practical strategies for healing ourselves. Now, what you're going to hear and find is that the ability to metabolize trauma that is located store sickly in our bodies, is not a big aha moment. It is actually small practices over time, almost like siphoning out something I would imagine, right? So, grab a journal or a notebook, lean back, open your mind and your body for this two part conversation. Please stay tuned after the guest discussion for skill highlights. www.AmplifyVoices.io About Our Guest In addition to his work as a writer and therapist, Resmaa focuses his expertise on coaching other leaders to learn this embodied approach, including police chiefs, nonprofit executives, CEOs, athletic directors and managers, government leaders and many more. “While we see anger and violence in the streets of our country, the real battlefield is inside our bodies,” he says. “If we are to survive as a country, it is inside our bodies where this conflict needs to be resolved.” 

Welcome to the unlikely leadership podcast with Audrey. And today is a special part one of a two part episode on a very powerful, timely and urgent dialogue of practices for us to be engaged in as leaders, which is trauma in leadership. How does trauma, historical trauma, recent family trauma, recent incident trauma, racial trauma, affect who we're being as we lead, and not just who we're being, but the outcome, the limits the patterns, the perpetual nature? Imagine, if a collective of us a critical mass of US leaders in all industries, touching 1000s upon hundreds of 1000s upon millions of lives, took on healing, what would be possible in that outcome? Resmaa Menakem is a healer, author, master coach and trauma specialist. He helps people communities and organizations heal from and build resilience around historical and racialized trauma through body centered psychology. He is a best selling author, a New York Times bestselling author of several books, including my grandmother's hands racialized trauma and the pathway to mending our hearts and our bodies, a deep exploration of how trauma affects us all. It combines theory and analysis with practical strategies for healing ourselves. Now, what you're going to hear and find is that the ability to metabolize trauma that is located store sickly in our bodies, is not a big aha moment. It is actually small practices over time, almost like siphoning out something I would imagine, right? So, grab a journal or a notebook, lean back, open your mind and your body for this two part conversation. Please stay tuned after the guest discussion for skill highlights. www.AmplifyVoices.io About Our Guest In addition to his work as a writer and therapist, Resmaa focuses his expertise on coaching other leaders to learn this embodied approach, including police chiefs, nonprofit executives, CEOs, athletic directors and managers, government leaders and many more. “While we see anger and violence in the streets of our country, the real battlefield is inside our bodies,” he says. “If we are to survive as a country, it is inside our bodies where this conflict needs to be resolved.” 

On this episode, Lissa sits down with Resmaa Menakem, the New York Times bestselling author of My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. Resmaa is a therapist, trauma specialist, and the founder of Justice Leadership Solutions a leadership consultancy where he works training business, community, and government leaders in the philosophy and practice of Somatic Abolitionism. Learn more about Resmaa's work at www.resmaa.com

Through the ruptures of the past year and more, we've been given so much to learn, and callings to live differently. But how to do that, and where to begin? Resmaa Menakem's book, My Grandmother's Hands, and his original insights into racialized trauma in all kinds of bodies, have offered new ways forward for us all. So we said yes when Resmaa proposed that he join On Being together with Robin DiAngelo. She has been a foremost white voice in our civilizational grappling with whiteness. This conversation is not comfortable, but it is electric and it opens possibility. Resmaa Menakem (MSW, LICSW, SEP) teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice, and a senior fellow at The Meadows. His New York Times best-selling book is My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies.Robin DiAngelo has been a consultant, educator, and facilitator for over 20 years and is an Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington in Seattle. She's the author of the influential book White Fragility: Why It's So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism. Her new book is Nice Racism: How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm.Find the transcript for this show at onbeing.org. And listen to Resmaa's first conversation with Krista, 'Notice the Rage; Notice the Silence.'This show originally aired in July, 2020.

Through the ruptures of the past year and more, we've been given so much to learn, and callings to live differently. But how to do that, and where to begin? Resmaa Menakem's book, My Grandmother's Hands, and his original insights into racialized trauma in all kinds of bodies, have offered new ways forward for us all. So we said yes when Resmaa proposed that he join On Being together with Robin DiAngelo. She has been a foremost white voice in our civilizational grappling with whiteness. This conversation is not comfortable, but it is electric and it opens possibility. Resmaa Menakem (MSW, LICSW, SEP) teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice, and a senior fellow at The Meadows. His New York Times best-selling book is My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies.Robin DiAngelo has been a consultant, educator, and facilitator for over 20 years and is an Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington in Seattle. She's the author of the influential book White Fragility: Why It's So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism. Her new book is Nice Racism: How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm.This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Robin DiAngelo and Resmaa Menakem — Towards a Framework for Repair." Find the transcript for that show at onbeing.org. And listen to Resmaa's first conversation with Krista, ‘Notice the Rage; Notice the Silence.'

Trauma Experts Disagree with Judge's Decision on Trauma of Children. During the sentencing hearing for Derek Chauvin, Judge Cahill informed the public that he would publish a 26 page document following the June 25 hearing to explain how he reached his decision of sentencing Chauvin to 22 1/2 years in prison. While many people, including the George Floyd family, did not feel Chauvin's sentence was long enough sentence Attorney General Keith Ellison did not object to the Judge's decision. This week Cahill denied Ellison's request. Trauma experts Resmaa Menakem & Dr. Gabor Mate help us understand why Ellison was pushing to make this change.

Resmaa Menakem is a therapist with decades of experience who is currently in private practice in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He specializes in trauma, body-centered psychotherapy, and violence prevention. He has also appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert in conflict and violence. In this episode, Eric and Resmaa discuss his book, My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending our Hearts and Bodies.But wait – there's more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It's that simple and we'll give you good stuff as a thank you!In This Interview, Resmaa Menakem and I Discuss Racialized Trauma and …His book, My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending our Hearts and BodiesHis definition of Trauma: Something that happened too much, too soon, too fast, or too long without something that was reparativeA sense of stuckness as an indicator of TraumaRacialized TraumaLooking at White and Black Body TraumaWhite body supremacyBeing nice vs. being anti-racistTuning into our bodies to heal racial TraumaCollective healingThe power of not jumping to intellectualizing the wounds that need healingResmaa Menakem Links:Resmaa's WebsiteTwitterInstagramFacebookVionic Shoes offers comfortable, stylish, and supportive footwear made with their signature Three-Zone comfort with Ultimate Arch Support technology. They offer a 30-day wear test so if you're not completely satisfied, you can return or exchange after 30 days. Visit vionicshoes.com and enter promo code: WOLF to get free shipping.Skillshare is an online learning community that helps you get better on your creative journey. They have thousands of inspiring classes for creative and curious people. Sign up via www.skillshare.com/feed and you'll get a FREE one-month trial of Skillshare premium membership.If you enjoyed this conversation with Resmaa Menakem on Racialized Trauma, you might also enjoy these other episodes:Deep Transformation with Spring WashamHealing Trauma with Judith BlackstoneSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode I have the pleasure of talking to the incredible Resmaa Menakem, a Healer, best-selling author, and trauma specialist.    Resmaa helps people, communities, and organisations find strength in healing historical and racialised trauma – carried in the body and the soul – that is holistic and resilient. He is a cultural trauma navigator and helps people rise through the suffering's edge. He is a communal provocateur and coach, a Senior Fellow with The Meadows Institute and considers it his job in this moment to make the invisible visible.   I have the pleasure of hearing more about Resmaa's journey from social work to healing historical and racialised trauma. We talk about the beautiful inspiration behind the name of his book, My Grandmother's Hands. We also talk about the concept of 'white body supremacy'. The immaturity of white body supremacy and the barrier it creates anti-racism and healing. We talk about healing from racialised trauma, Black women and creation, and Resmaa's best-selling book, My Grandmother's Hands.    Referenced in the episode: -Resmaa's free Racialized Trauma Course: https://courses.culturalsomaticsinstitute.com/courses/cultural-somatics-free-5-session-ecourse - My Grandmother's Hands: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/443/443125/my-grandmother-s-hands/9780141996479.html - Podcast Ep 3 BLM One Year On, Toxic Masculinity, Healing and Honouring Women with Daniel Edmund https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/blm-one-year-on-toxic-masculinity-healing-honouring/id1506584414?i=1000523257338   You can connect with Resmaa on his Instagram @resmaamenakem and Linktree page to download a free radicalised trauma course   You can connect with me over at @novareidofficial (https://www.instagram.com/novareidofficial/) and at www.novareid.com   If you are ready to do the inner work and learn to be actively anti-racist please visit my website for further details about my online academy: Becoming Anti-racist with Nova Reid  https://novareid.com/services/anti-racism-course/    Don't forget if you learn something and these add value you can join my brand new podcast community over on Patreon to support this work and get access to exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/novareid.   If this podcast resonates with you, please leave a review.

The Washington Post has received backlash for publishing a series about race called "The New Normal". The series centered several scholars including New York Times Best Selling Author Resmaa Menakem who joins us in this episode to denounce the lies Ben Shapiro & Tucker Carlson are spreading about his work.

Resmaa Menakem    The week of April 19, 2021 was brutal. People around the world, but especially here in the U.S., were waiting on a verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial. But then there were other killings that same week of Black bodies by police. It was almost too much to process. But this conversation with healer, therapist, and NYT best selling author Resmaa Menakem gave me a deeper perspective.  Resmaa and I spoke a few hours before the verdict in the  trial came down. We talked about George Floyd, we talked about other Black bodies murdered by police. We also spoke about trauma, Black trauma, white trauma, and the trauma that is held in the bodies of those in blue. We spoke about white body supremacy and what we all need to do to heal that for the sake of all people. We spoke about the role of community in the healing process and how we all need people who not only care for us but hold us to account. In the context of the trial of the murderer of George Floyd hanging over us, this conversation was especially powerful. After speaking with Resmaa I had a more comprehensive direction for future action and I believe you will too. For a written transcript of this conversation click here. Resmaa, Menakem, MSW, LICSW, SEP, is a healer, therapist and NYTimes bestselling author of My Grandmother's Hands. Resmaa Menakem is a visionary Justice Leadership coach, organizational strategist and master trainer. To help Justice leaders really realize their potential in the areas of Equity & Race, Resmaa created cultural somatics, which utilizes the Body & Resilience as mechanisms for growth. Resources mentioned in this episode: My Grandmother's Hands by Resmaa Menakem, available wherever you buy your books Resmaa's Wyser App  Connect with Resmaa: Website Credits: Harmonica music courtesy of a friend

Resmaa Menakem is a Healer, New York Times Best-Selling Author, and Trauma Specialist. He helps people, communities, and organizations find strength in healing that is holistic and resilient. He helps people rise through the suffering’s edge. He is a cultural trauma navigator, a communal provocateur and coach. I first heard Resmaa on my friend Jayson Gaddis' podcast, and I was completely inspired and transformed. After reading his novel My Grandmothers Hands, I knew I needed to have him on this show. This conversation on racialized trauma will transform you, educate you, and move you. You do not want to miss this one. In Resmaa's words, "Moving from race to culture to creation is important, transformative, and takes work. And a lot of reps." Find more about Resmaa and his work here. To find the Energetic Justice course I spoke about during this episode, head here.      See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

More information can be found at www.socialchangeleaders.net “The only way forward is through, together” - Nichelle Smith It is February 2021 which in the United States is also Black history month. With humility and respect we do recognize Black history is actually American history. This month serves as a reminder of that history and the contributions Black Americans have made; many of these contributions under challenging and impossible circumstances, and many of them unacknowledged and unappreciated at the time and still today. This is not something we only must do during the month of February, but every month. This week, we wanted to do an encore of a previously released podcast focused on the work of Resmaa Menakem, a healer, author, trauma specialist and podcaster. In this episode Resmaa shares his thoughts and insights about racialization as pedagogy and white body supremacy. In our conversation, we dive into: Key concepts about the impacts of racism on black and brown bodies The concept of white body supremacy as the standard by which all bodies of humanity are measured and why white people must get comfortable with that term How black and brown bodies can be harmed when white people seek validation and comfort from people of color The recent work Resmaa has done with author and speaker Robin DiAngelo about identifying and combating White Fragility How current policies and procedures allow white body supremacy to multiply Why Resmaa believes white people must engage in a longer-term, embodied process of work and self study to transform as individuals to better address the dismantling of white body supremacy Why white people must learn to create their own culture to better hold space for discomfort when discussing race Resmaa's creative ideas about how to leverage technology and other innovative fields to support anti-racism work In this episode: Resmaa Menakem Robin DiAngelo Resmaa Book, My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies “Black History Month 2021: The Only Way Forward Is Through, Together” by Nichelle Smith More about Resmaa Manakem: Resmaa Menakem, MSW, LICSW, SEP, has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. He has served as director of counseling services for the Tubman Family Alliance; as behavioral health director for African American Family Services in Minneapolis; as a domestic violence counselor for Wilder Foundation; as a certified Military and Family Life Consultant for the U.S. Armed Forces; as a trauma consultant for the Minneapolis Public Schools; and as a Cultural Somatics consultant for the Minneapolis Police Department. As a Community Care Counselor, he managed the wellness and counseling services for civilians on fifty-three US military bases in Afghanistan. Resmaa studied and trained at Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing Trauma Institute, as well as with Dr. David Schnarch (author of the bestselling Passionate Marriage) and Bessel van der Kolk, MD (author of the bestselling The Body Keeps the Score). He currently teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice.

More information can be found at www.socialchangeleaders.net  “The only way forward is through, together”  - Nichelle Smith It is February 2021 which in the United States is also Black history month.   With humility and respect we do recognize Black history is actually American history.  This month serves as a reminder of that history and the contributions Black Americans have made; many of these contributions under challenging and impossible circumstances, and many of them unacknowledged and unappreciated at the time and still today. This is not something we only must do during the month of February, but every month.  This week, we wanted to do an encore of a previously released podcast focused on the work of Resmaa Menakem, a healer, author, trauma specialist and podcaster.  In this episode Resmaa shares his thoughts and insights about racialization as pedagogy and white body supremacy.  In our conversation, we dive into: Key concepts about the impacts of racism on black and brown bodies The concept of white body supremacy as the standard by which all bodies of humanity are measured and why white people must get comfortable with that term How black and brown bodies can be harmed when white people seek validation and comfort from people of color The recent work Resmaa has done with author and speaker Robin DiAngelo about identifying and combating White Fragility       How current policies and procedures allow white body supremacy to multiply  Why Resmaa believes white people must engage in a longer-term, embodied process of work and self study to transform as individuals to better address the dismantling of white body supremacy  Why white people must learn to create their own culture to better hold space for discomfort when discussing race Resmaa’s creative ideas about how to leverage technology and other innovative fields to support anti-racism work In this episode: Resmaa Menakem Robin DiAngelo Resmaa Book, My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies “Black History Month 2021: The Only Way Forward Is Through, Together” by Nichelle Smith More about Resmaa Manakem: Resmaa Menakem, MSW, LICSW, SEP, has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. He has served as director of counseling services for the Tubman Family Alliance; as behavioral health director for African American Family Services in Minneapolis; as a domestic violence counselor for Wilder Foundation; as a certified Military and Family Life Consultant for the U.S. Armed Forces; as a trauma consultant for the Minneapolis Public Schools; and as a Cultural Somatics consultant for the Minneapolis Police Department. As a Community Care Counselor, he managed the wellness and counseling services for civilians on fifty-three US military bases in Afghanistan. Resmaa studied and trained at Peter Levine’s Somatic Experiencing Trauma Institute, as well as with Dr. David Schnarch (author of the bestselling Passionate Marriage) and Bessel van der Kolk, MD (author of the bestselling The Body Keeps the Score). He currently teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice.

Resmaa Menakem is an author, artist, and psychotherapist specializing in the effects of trauma on the human body, as well as relationships within Black families and Black society. He's the author of the beautiful and inspiring book, My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon and Resmaa Menakem discuss racism from the perspectives of trauma and body-centered psychology. Resmaa unpacks some of the language he's introduced into our vocabulary around racism—including "white-body supremacy" and "somatic abolitionism"—helping listeners to deepen their understanding of the structural and philosophical underpinnings of racism in the Western world. They also discuss the ways our bodies metabolize our experiences around racism, and the importance of finding healing in community. This interview originally appeared in Sounds True's Walking Together, a collection of free resources for healing racism.

Resmaa Menakem is a trauma specialist and New York Times best-selling author. His latest book, “My Grandmother’s Hands”, focuses on the historical and racialized trauma carried in our bodies and souls, from one generation to the next. As we try to heal, Resmaa joins us to talk about the dangers of white comfort (4:15), the “supreme standard” of the white body (10:03), his personal experience with generational trauma (14:33), the communal horror of racial injustice (19:10), his healing work with soldiers in Afghanistan (24:26), how black people have become habituated to soothing white bodies (36:10), and the illusion of allyship (40:19).  Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/talk-easy-with-sam-fragoso.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Dr. Amber McZeal is a gift to the world. A writer, vocalist, sacred scholar, and activist she utilizes sound therapy and guided somatic imagery to engage the knowledge of the body. She is a pioneer, and inventor, of the process that she calls "Decolonizing The Psyche". In this episode, we speak about how our psyches became colonized and how we can begin to decolonize them, returning to a sacred center of self that respects the "other" as different in expression, but same in Spirit. We speak about race as a construct for division, a myth. Something to understand so we can unlearn it and redevelop our brains and bodies so that we can show up to our world with greater compassion and respect for our fellow human beings.To quote Amber: "We humans have the same desires & needs, but different cultural manifestations".Read about Amber: https://www.goddard.edu/people/amber-mczeal/Join Amber's Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/817992224926466Read about Resmaa and his book: https://www.resmaa.com/Join Karine Bell's "Somatic Abolitionism": https://www.rootedandembodied.com/

 *Updated 11.13.20While many awful DEI practices exist, Fleur has built a reputation of accountability and showing up! So many great assets are mentioned in this episode:Michelle talks with Fleur Larsen, a facilitator and DEI consultant with a great repFleur’s next workshop is Power With Not Power Over for white women, starting Sept 10She is one of the founders of Skate Like a Girl (est. 2000) and comes from the therapy, education and nonprofit spacesReferences: Definition of Gatekeepers: Those who speak for, describe, translate, interpret, count and determine institutional access for people of color - in the process of systemic oppression. Gatekeepers are typically accountable to their bosses in institutions rather than the communities that they serve, and usually help maintain rather than change the system. They contribute to depriving oppressed people access to the institutions that control their lives. Source: People’s Institute for Survival and BeyondDefinition of Liberated Gatekeeping: Using power and privilege, access, opportunity to break down gates; Awareness of systems, policies, people that may be gates; Realization we are ALL gatekeepers (we can be liberating or oppressive); Using gatekeeping to check other’s privilege. Source: Monica Dennis and Rachael Ibrahim and Move to End Violence Initiative.adrienne marie brown and Emergent Strategy - learn more about emergent strategy!WOAH she does 60% of the work for 40% of the pay when she works with BIPOC folx. Did you hear that? Just wanted to point it out.We mentioned Lola’s Ink, a new podcast by Jenna Hanchard which also features a great story from Jenna and guest Jodi-Ann Burey => In A World Full of Karens Be An Elizabeth...check it out!Fleur talked about The Crown Act, created in 2019 to ensure protection against discrimination based on race-based hairstyles by extending statutory protection to hair texture and styles like braids, locs, twists, and knots in the workplace and public schools. Yes, this is still happening.Fleur mentions Resmaa Menakem, therapist and author of books like My Grandmother’s HandsThe Power of a Fundraiser: is an article I wrote, that was referenced...Fleur gives props to Aparna Rae, Ligaya Domingo, Jodi-Ann Burey, Regent Brown, Tami Farber and Michelle GislasonGratitude to Falon Sierra  for letting us use her new song “Sprained Ankles" throughout this episode - its so good right?This is a brand new podcast and we could use all the help we can get! The best way to support us is by subscribing on your fav pod player, rating us (esp on iTunes...yeah, I know) and honestly...share it out to friends and colleagues. The purpose is  Write us any time at hello@theethicalrainmaker.com or visit us at theethicalrainmaker.com.

In this week's episode, we process Krista Tippett’s interview with Therapist and Trauma Specialist Resmaa Menakem, and Resmaa’s work on somatization and racialized trauma. Listen as we talk about the interview’s highlights around diversity, equity and inclusion practices and facilitation, intergenerational trauma, and the development of and the impact of white culture on the world. Dive in as we discuss how this podcast has inspired us to continue doing the work on ourselves and how to inform others and strengthen our work with clients. Check out Resmaa’s book entitled “My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. Please, please and PLEASE check out the podcast @onbeing with Krista Trippett and the episode on 6/4/20 titled “Notice the Rage; Notice the Silence” with @resmaamenakem. It is enlightening for all people of all races and cultures and all therapists and all healers. Key takeaways from this episode include: 1. Historical facts, storytelling, and the use of radical language shapes how people understand what is happening in the world and to understand the behavior of others. 2. Notice your rage and notice the silence within your body. Pause to feel the discomfort. Do not exit the conversation or the work too early. Watch out for the performative behaviors that prevent you from being uncomfortable and working on yourself. 3. Diversity and inclusion work does not and should not in any form or fashion include Taco Tuesday and or staff happy hour. You know what? When in doubt just go ahead and hire Resmaa. 4. People of color have to go deeper. We need to do our own healing and our own cultural work. We have to figure out our own shit, internally, first so that we can be ready for change and freedom. Mental health matters. 5. Yes, we need to continue pulling back the onion layers and uncovering what we need to focus on to do the work. S*** we have so much work to do... 6. To paraphrase Resmaa: “shut up and check your impulses.” Mic drop. For questions and share outs and further discussion please contact us at therapistsarepeopletoo@gmail.com. Until next time, remember to live, laugh, love, and keep it real. -Frantzces, Sabeen and Tonika :) Click here to leave us a rating on iTunes.  Follow us on Instagram.

Rev. Mike and Malayna go deeper into the Sunday topic, "None Are Free Until All Are Free" and discuss how to get there, when it seems that people can't even talk to each other. Using information from Resmaa Menakem's book My Grandmother's Hands, they discuss healing the trauma that triggers us so we can lean into uncomfortable conversations and find common ground to move forward together. There's a lot coming up in our country for healing and change, so they look at history for answers.

Rev. Mike and Malayna continue the conversation with Salaam Thompson, who shared SO MUCH knowledge, that Malayna had to look it all up, and put together a full report with links to learn even more. Here it is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r7RqP4HKZ-tf2penmA24O0gMfrBHgtQ-/viewVideo version at: https://youtu.be/pNBw8gHCLJc

The show we released with Minneapolis-based trauma specialist Resmaa Menakem in the weeks after George Floyd’s killing has become one of our most popular episodes, and has touched listeners and galvanized personal searching. So we said yes when Resmaa proposed that he join On Being again, this time together with Robin DiAngelo. She is perhaps the foremost voice in our civilizational grappling with whiteness; her book, White Fragility, is one of the most widely read books in the world right now. Hearing the two of them together is electric — the deepest of dives into the calling of our lifetimes.Resmaa Menakem offers therapy and coaching in Minneapolis and teaches across the U.S. He’s worked with U.S. military contractors in Afghanistan as well as American communities and police forces. His bestselling book, My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies, is part narrative, part workbook.Robin DiAngelo is an Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington in Seattle and has been a consultant, educator, and facilitator for over 20 years on issues of racial and social justice. She’s the author of White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Robin DiAngelo and Resmaa Menakem: In Conversation" Find more at onbeing.org. 

The show we released with Minneapolis-based trauma specialist Resmaa Menakem in the weeks after George Floyd’s killing has become one of our most popular episodes, and has touched listeners and galvanized personal searching. So we said yes when Resmaa proposed that he join On Being again, this time together with Robin DiAngelo. She is perhaps the foremost voice in our civilizational grappling with whiteness; her book, White Fragility, is one of the most widely read books in the world right now. Hearing the two of them together is electric — the deepest of dives into the calling of our lifetimes.Resmaa Menakem offers therapy and coaching in Minneapolis and teaches across the U.S. He’s worked with U.S. military contractors in Afghanistan as well as American communities and police forces. His bestselling book, My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies, is part narrative, part workbook.Robin DiAngelo is an Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington in Seattle and has been a consultant, educator, and facilitator for over 20 years on issues of racial and social justice. She’s the author of White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism. Find the transcript for this show at onbeing.org. And listen to Resmaa’s first conversation with Krista, “‘Notice the Rage; Notice the Silence.’”

It’s easy to think of racism as a virus that lives in your head. But my guest today makes a compelling case that it also lives, in very profound and often unseen ways, in your body. Resmaa Menakem is a therapist and trauma specialist based in Minneapolis. He’s also the author of an excellent book called My Grandmother’s Hands, which people in my life have been recommending to me for years. Resmaa’s work is all about healing our bodies -- and, by extension, our nation -- from racialized trauma. And in Resmaa’s philosophy, racial trauma lives on in bodies of all colors, including white bodies such as mine. Resmaa gives voice to a new lexicon -- terms like “white body supremacy” and “somatic abolitionism” -- and don’t worry, he’ll explain it all as the interview progresses. He will also share practices that bring you into your body. And he has very provocative thoughts about how white people can do their part way beyond the current news cycle. Where to find Resmaa Menakem online:  Website: https://www.resmaa.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ResmaaMenakem Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/resmaa  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/resmaamenakem/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/rmenakem Book Mentioned: My Grandmother’s Hands: https://www.resmaa.com/store/my-grandmothers-hands-hardcover Check our our new, free collection of meditations called Relating to Race in the Ten Percent Happier app: https://10percenthappier.app.link/RelatingToRace  Other Resources Mentioned: Malcolm X: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X Stamped from the Beginning By Ibram X Kendi: https://www.ibramxkendi.com/stamped-from-the-beginning  Cherry Blossom Experiment: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190326-what-is-epigenetics Resmaa’s courses: https://www.resmaa.com/courses Additional Resources: Ten Percent Happier Live: https://tenpercent.com/live Coronavirus Sanity Guide: https://www.tenpercent.com/coronavirussanityguide Free App access for Frontline Workers: https://tenpercent.com/care Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/resmaa-menakem-262

It's easy to think of racism as a virus that lives in your head. But my guest today makes a compelling case that it also lives, in very profound and often unseen ways, in your body. Resmaa Menakem is a therapist and trauma specialist based in Minneapolis. He's also the author of an excellent book called My Grandmother's Hands, which people in my life have been recommending to me for years. Resmaa's work is all about healing our bodies -- and, by extension, our nation -- from racialized trauma. And in Resmaa's philosophy, racial trauma lives on in bodies of all colors, including white bodies such as mine. Resmaa gives voice to a new lexicon -- terms like “white body supremacy” and “somatic abolitionism” -- and don't worry, he'll explain it all as the interview progresses. He will also share practices that bring you into your body. And he has very provocative thoughts about how white people can do their part way beyond the current news cycle. Where to find Resmaa Menakem online:  Website: https://www.resmaa.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ResmaaMenakem Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/resmaa  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/resmaamenakem/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/rmenakem Book Mentioned: My Grandmother's Hands: https://www.resmaa.com/store/my-grandmothers-hands-hardcover Check our our new, free collection of meditations called Relating to Race in the Ten Percent Happier app: https://10percenthappier.app.link/RelatingToRace  Other Resources Mentioned: Malcolm X: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X Stamped from the Beginning By Ibram X Kendi: https://www.ibramxkendi.com/stamped-from-the-beginning  Cherry Blossom Experiment: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190326-what-is-epigenetics Resmaa's courses: https://www.resmaa.com/courses Additional Resources: Ten Percent Happier Live: https://tenpercent.com/live Coronavirus Sanity Guide: https://www.tenpercent.com/coronavirussanityguide Free App access for Frontline Workers: https://tenpercent.com/care Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/resmaa-menakem-262

Why do you feel tense, on edge, and kind of like a hot mess right now in the midst of the global coronavirus pandemic AND in the wake of George Floyd? Because of collective trauma. In this episode you will learn what collective trauma is, where it lives, and why it's being activated right now. I'll also introduce you to the work of Resmaa Menakem, author of the book My Grandmother's Hands. You can learn about Resmaa, his book, and his free class over at https://www.resmaa.com

Therapist and trauma specialist Resmaa Menakem is working with old wisdom and very new science about our bodies and nervous systems, and all we condense into the word “race.” “Your body — all of our bodies — are where changing the status quo must begin.”Find a quiet place and experience this short, simple body practice offered in Resmaa’s conversation with Krista on the On Being episode, ‘Notice the Rage; Notice the Silence.’

“One sick elephant doesn't stop a circus; so figure it out.” More information can be found at www.socialchangeleaders.net On today's episode we speak with Resmaa Menakem, a healer, author, trauma specialist and podcaster. Resmaa shares his thoughts and insights about racialization as pedagogy and white body supremacy. In our conversation, we dive into: Key concepts about the impacts of racism on black and brown bodies The concept of white body supremacy as the standard by which all bodies of humanity are measured and why white people must get comfortable with that term How black and brown bodies can be harmed when white people seek validation and comfort from people of color The recent work Resmaa has done with author and speaker Robin DiAngelo about identifying and combating White Fragility How current policies and procedures allow white body supremacy to multiply Why Resmaa believes white people must engage in a longer-term, embodied process of work and self study to transform as individuals to better address the dismantling of white body supremacy Why white people must learn to create their own culture to better hold space for discomfort when discussing race Resmaa's creative ideas about how to leverage technology and other innovative fields to support anti-racism work In this episode: Resmaa Website: here Robin DiAngelo Website: here Resmaa Book, My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies: here More about Resmaa Resmaa Menakem, MSW, LICSW, SEP, has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. He has served as director of counseling services for the Tubman Family Alliance; as behavioral health director for African American Family Services in Minneapolis; as a domestic violence counselor for Wilder Foundation; as a certified Military and Family Life Consultant for the U.S. Armed Forces; as a trauma consultant for the Minneapolis Public Schools; and as a Cultural Somatics consultant for the Minneapolis Police Department. As a Community Care Counselor, he managed the wellness and counseling services for civilians on fifty-three US military bases in Afghanistan. Resmaa studied and trained at Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing Trauma Institute, as well as with Dr. David Schnarch (author of the bestselling Passionate Marriage) and Bessel van der Kolk, MD (author of the bestselling The Body Keeps the Score). He currently teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice.

“One sick elephant doesn’t stop a circus; so figure it out.”  More information can be found at www.socialchangeleaders.net  On today’s episode we speak with Resmaa Menakem, a healer, author, trauma specialist and podcaster.  Resmaa shares his thoughts and insights about racialization as pedagogy and white body supremacy.  In our conversation, we dive into: Key concepts about the impacts of racism on black and brown bodies The concept of white body supremacy as the standard by which all bodies of humanity are measured and why white people must get comfortable with that term How black and brown bodies can be harmed when white people seek validation and comfort from people of color The recent work Resmaa has done with author and speaker Robin DiAngelo about identifying and combating White Fragility       How current policies and procedures allow white body supremacy to multiply  Why Resmaa believes white people must engage in a longer-term, embodied process of work and self study to transform as individuals to better address the dismantling of white body supremacy  Why white people must learn to create their own culture to better hold space for discomfort when discussing race Resmaa’s creative ideas about how to leverage technology and other innovative fields to support anti-racism work In this episode: Resmaa Website:  here Robin DiAngelo Website:  here  Resmaa Book, My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies: here More about Resmaa Resmaa Menakem, MSW, LICSW, SEP, has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. He has served as director of counseling services for the Tubman Family Alliance; as behavioral health director for African American Family Services in Minneapolis; as a domestic violence counselor for Wilder Foundation; as a certified Military and Family Life Consultant for the U.S. Armed Forces; as a trauma consultant for the Minneapolis Public Schools; and as a Cultural Somatics consultant for the Minneapolis Police Department. As a Community Care Counselor, he managed the wellness and counseling services for civilians on fifty-three US military bases in Afghanistan. Resmaa studied and trained at Peter Levine’s Somatic Experiencing Trauma Institute, as well as with Dr. David Schnarch (author of the bestselling Passionate Marriage) and Bessel van der Kolk, MD (author of the bestselling The Body Keeps the Score). He currently teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice.

This week on The Living Experiment Pilar interviews a very special guest, clinical therapist and author Resmaa Menakem. We're talking about trauma, the effect it has on us as individuals, and also the impact it has on us in groups and as members of society. Resmaa's most recent book, My Grandmother's Hands, explores themes of ancestral and racialized trauma, topics informed by his personal and familial experiences, as well as his professional clinical expertise. Resmaa's insights are also informed by a broad array of cross-cultural explorations, including two tours in Afghanistan as a military contractor. Resmaa's teachings are relevant to anyone who has experienced trauma, which, as he points out, is all of us. So here, we talk about the lasting impacts trauma leaves on our bodies, hearts and minds, as well as our families, communities and societies. We talk about what it takes to heal trauma's current wounds, as well as its legacies of pain and depression, and we leave you with some experiments to help you better recognize and resolve the sources of trauma in your own life. Get full show notes and resources at http://livingexperiment.com/trauma-1/

In this episode of the Rerooted Podcast, Francesca shares a conversation with author, social worker, and psychotherapist Resmaa Menakem around working with racialized trauma on a collective level. Resmaa Menakem is a visionary Justice Leadership coach, organizational strategist, and master trainer. He is an accomplished author of three books, including My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma, and has appeared on The Oprah Winfrey and Dr. Phil shows as an expert on conflict mediation, self-care and healing. You can learn more about him, and sign up for his free Racialized Trauma 5-Day eCourse, at https://www.resmaa.com/ The HIPP Theory Francesca and Resmaa begin their conversation about trauma, and how racialized trauma impacts an entire group of people rather than just the individual. Resmaa shares his HIPP Theory, which articulates the different aspects of trauma, including what is passed down through the generations. “What actually happens when you watch somebody being whipped? What actually happens to the body that’s witnessing that?” – Resmaa Menakem Dale Borglum talks about working with trauma on Healing at the Edge Ep. 34 White Body Supremacy (19:07) Resmaa takes over the show and asks Francesca about her experience around the concept of white body supremacy in the spiritual community. They discuss the fallacy of color blindness and the danger of taking a spiritual bypass when it comes to racialized trauma. “There is no heat and no energy in comfort. And this whole structure is built around white comfort. The only heat and energy is in the edge of leaning into the suffering of not being aware that there is a structure that is built on white bodies being the standard of human.” – Resmaa Menakem Discomfort Tolerance (40:11) Francesca dives deeper into the idea of discomfort tolerance. Resmaa talks about needing to put in the reps and slowly work your way into being able to hold onto the discomfort. It’s about biting off a little bit at a time, not filling your mouth with more than you can chew. “The moment we start to experience any discomfort. We create these very elaborate dodges around it that look like healing, that look like social moving and caring, but are actually dodges.” – Resmaa Menakem

“Healing from white-body supremacy begins with the body — your body. But it does not end there. In order to heal the collective body that is America, we also need social activism that is body centered. We cannot individualize our way out of white-body supremacy. Nor can we merely strategize our way out. We need collective action — action that heals.” — Resmaa Menakem, My Grandmother’s Hands   Rebecca is joined by healer, author, and trauma specialist, Resmaa Menakem. Resmaa helps people, communities, and organizations find strength and healing that’s both holistic and resilient. He’s authored 3 books and today’s discussion is centered around his most recent: My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. Resmaa shares that in order to mend racialized trauma we need to move the conversation from race to culture and cultivate a somatic abolitionist mindset and community. And a big part of that work lies in doing our own reps to learn what to pay attention to and then doing the reps with each other’s nervous systems so we can create a culture that knows what to pay attention to. Otherwise it’s just strategy. As you’ll discover, the wisdom within the book is ancestral, it has always existed and was both nurtured and drawn out of Resmaa by his elders over a long period of time, through repetition, through admonishment, through being held, and loved, and corrected.    This interview was recorded in July 2019, before the shootings in Gilroy, CA; El Paso, TX; and Dayton, OH.   Resources: Connect with Resmaa: resmaa.com While these discussions will guide you into the Connectfulness Practice, the podcast is not meant to be a substitute for counseling from a licensed provider. Reach out. Initiate the ripple. Learn more about my connectfulness counseling practice and our collective for therapists in private practice at connectfulness.com. This episode is brought to you by Therapy Notes. Therapy Notes is a simple, secure, EHR platform that keeps you organized and creates a container for all details that run a private practice -- so you can tend to what really matters. Use the promo code connectfulness and get two months free when you sign up at therapynotes.com     And if you’re local to New Paltz, NY and are interested in the deep community work Resmaa guides us into in My Grandmother’s Hands, contact Rebecca so we can coordinate local meetings. 

Resmaa Menakem released a racialized trauma e-course in 2019 to work in concert with 'My Grandmother's Hands.' This is a reissue of his appearance in 2018 with a brief new opening about the e-course.  “For 400 years you have not had to address this.” - Resmaa Menakem Resmaa Menakem talks about his work and the goals of his book 'My Grandmother's Hands,' including the healing needed around racialized trauma, the different approaches needed for different bodies, and whose responsibility it is to engage with the work of racial and social justice. Resmaa Menakem MSW, LICSW, S.E.P. has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. He has served as director of counseling services for the Tubman Family Alliance; as behavioral health director for African American Family Services in Minneapolis; and as a Cultural Somatics consultant for the Minneapolis Police Department. As a Community Care Counselor, he managed the wellness and counseling services for civilians on fifty-three US military bases in Afghanistan. Resmaa currently teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice in Minneapolis. MY GRANDMOTHER'S HANDS The first self-discovery book to examine white body supremacy in America from the perspective of trauma and body-centered psychology. American Gods slave ship scene: https://vimeo.com/217950394 Professor Mahmoud El-Kati: http://www.mahmoudelkati.com/

“For 400 years you have not had to address this.” - Resmaa Menakem Resmaa Menakem talks about his work and the goals of his book 'My Grandmother's Hands,' including the healing needed around racialized trauma, the different approaches needed for different bodies, and whose responsibility it is to engage with the work of racial and social justice. Resmaa Menakem MSW, LICSW, S.E.P. has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. He has served as director of counseling services for the Tubman Family Alliance; as behavioral health director for African American Family Services in Minneapolis; and as a Cultural Somatics consultant for the Minneapolis Police Department. As a Community Care Counselor, he managed the wellness and counseling services for civilians on fifty-three US military bases in Afghanistan. Resmaa currently teaches workshops on Cultural Somatics for audiences of African Americans, European Americans, and police officers. He is also a therapist in private practice in Minneapolis. MY GRANDMOTHER'S HANDS The first self-discovery book to examine white body supremacy in America from the perspective of trauma and body-centered psychology. American Gods slave ship scene: https://vimeo.com/217950394 Professor Mahmoud El-Kati: http://www.mahmoudelkati.com/

Dr. Michelle talks about how facing conflict and accepting discomfort in our relationships, can bring more intimacy, greater trust and deeper bonds, as she interviews Psychotherapist and Licensed Social Worker, Resmaa Menakem, about his latest book, "Rock The Boat; How To Use Conflict to Heal and Deepen Your Relationship." Get his book and find out more about Resmaa at: resmaarocks.com

Dr. Michelle talks about how facing conflict and accepting discomfort in our relationships, can bring more intimacy, greater trust and deeper bonds, as she interviews Psychotherapist and Licensed Social Worker, Resmaa Menakem, about his latest book, "Rock The Boat; How To Use Conflict to Heal and Deepen Your Relationship." Get his book and find out more about Resmaa at: resmaarocks.com