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In this episode, Michael Frampton catches up with renowned surfer and coach Matt Grainger to talk about the highs and lows of surfing, the challenges of big waves, and the innovations in the sport. Matt shares his experiences with heavy waves, gnarly wipeouts, and the current state of surfing on the Sydney Northern Beaches. The discussion dives into the recent swells, the changing conditions, and how they impact surfers of all levels.Matt also discusses his latest project, the "Surfer's Compass" app, a comprehensive guide for surfers to improve their techniques, mindset, and fitness. He shares the inspiration behind the app, the process of its development, and the exciting features that it will offer. Episode Highlights:Matt's Recent Surf Trip to Indonesia: Matt shares the story of his recent trip to Indonesia, where he suffered a significant head injury after a day of surfing at Macaronis. He details the moment the injury occurred, the aftermath, and the crucial steps taken to avoid infection.The Importance of Surf Safety: Despite years of experience, Matt explains how ego and overconfidence led to a dangerous situation. He emphasizes the importance of wearing a helmet in heavy conditions and the risks of surfing over shallow reefs.Injury Management and Recovery: Matt provides valuable insights into managing injuries in remote locations, including the use of bottled water, antibiotics, and proper wound care to prevent infections from coral cuts.Mobility and Strength Training for Surfers: As a coach, Matt discusses the significance of maintaining mobility and strength as surfers age. He highlights the role of a balanced training program in injury prevention and long-term surfing performance.Mindset and Longevity in Surfing: Matt touches on the importance of a positive mindset, quoting Bruce Lee on the power of words and how they influence our physical and mental well-being. He encourages surfers to stay active, eat well, and maintain a youthful outlook to continue enjoying the sport well into their later years..Surf Culture Evolution: The changes in surfing culture, including the influx of new surfers and the impact on traditional breaks."Surfer's Compass" App: Insight into Matt's development of this app, aimed at improving surfing techniques, fitness, and mental strategies.For more insights and tips from Matt Grainger:Follow Matt Grainger:Instagram: mattgraingersurf.Linkedin:: Matt GraingeFollow Michael John Frampton:Instagram: @surfmasteryWebsite: https://surfmastery.com/.Full Show Transcript:[00:00:00] Matt Grainger: I think so. You look at all the surfers now. It's all legs. Hardly any upper body. Only back and legs. You don't want any chest, and you don't want to overload the shoulders as well in your rotator cuff. Exercises are really good. So light weights on the shoulders, nothing heavy. So you can still get that mobility in your padel. And you've got the power for your back for your paddle. So a lot of the strength training is like just Olympic rings, pull ups, maybe some skin. The cat. Um, um, dumbbell pull ups as well off the bench, all that kind of stuff. And then a lot of, a lot of, um, obviously squats with the. [00:00:40] Michael Frampton: Back to the Surf Mastery podcast. I am your host, Michael Frampton, and the ethos of this show is education and inspiration for better surfing and a better surfing life. And Matt Grainger, today's guest, not only was a huge part in the inspiration for the birth of this show, but he epitomizes that ethos as well. He is in his mid 50s now, and he's still out there surfing a ton and stays fit and healthy for surfing, and also teaches others to be better surfers and better people through better surfing mindset, health and fitness, etc. Matt is just a pure inspiration in the surfing world and just an absolute frother and a rips. He rips. He's an incredible surfer and stoked to get him back on the show. And like I said, he first appeared back in episode number one. He's. This will be his fourth appearance. Uh, he also appeared in episode 30 and episode 55 as well. And, uh, without further ado, I shall fade in my conversation. My fourth conversation on this podcast with Matt Grainger from Manly Surf School. How did it happen? Was it just a freak random thing, or was it a lapse in concentration or what? [00:02:07] Matt Grainger: Yeah, it was a bit of the ego took over and ego took over. Um, we'd had. Every day was the best day ever. We had this the first swell in June. And, um, this one day just got bigger and bigger, and it had a lot of south in it. There was two swells. It was like a south swell and a bit of south west as well. So you could get a chip in, you could chip in from behind, behind the tower, and you could backdoor where you'd usually take off. So you'd get like more barrel time. And I was riding this magic six zero Psi Pro, one that I've had for about a year. Felt unreal under my feet. Been riding it for days straight. And then, um, this guy Sean came out from South Africa. He rocked up on a boat. Him and I started paddling up the reef and just trading wave after wave and making him. So just making these unbelievable tubes and no one came up there because, you know, it was pretty gnarly. So if you fell, it was like two foot deep and it was like an eight foot swell. So when Max, probably 8 to 10, you probably saw footage of Nathan Florence. I don't know if you saw some of the footage of him and he's it was like 10 to 12 foot hits that day, whereas Max doesn't get bigger, it just gets thicker. So it's probably 6 to 8 foot, but really thick, like a chokes kind of way. You get this, you can make this really nice drop and then come in with speed. [00:03:28] Matt Grainger: And just if you made it, you're fine. But if you didn't make it, that's what happened. So after five hours, I actually wasn't even tired. I was after like five hours, I was just just getting cocky and I probably should have gone in. It was more like one more, one more. And Shaun and I were trying to outdo each other, and he he actually snapped his board, his board on his last wave, and I snapped my head, but I took off, made. It made. The drop. Drop was on the foam ball. As I was pumping on the foam ball, the wave turned the corner. So kind of that south west angle of the way though, turned a massive corner. So I've just got catapulted on the foam ball and I got thrown out head first, and that's as soon as my head landed, the lip hit the back of my neck and just drove me straight into the reef, like, instantly. It was only like two foot deep. It was low tide and I just it was just like, bang. I was like, no, I got a bit on here. And then I went into worry, went into warrior mode. You know, when you when I'd said us the way, way my eyes. Okay. It's actually got a cut there as well. So I've got to cut. I got cut either side. I got cuts either side of the nose down here on the bottom of the nose as well on this eye. [00:04:43] Matt Grainger: And obviously here I have about 25 stitches here, five stitches here. And I just went I knew the session was over and I just paddled back. Everyone was like, we'll get a boat. Everyone's screaming, get a boat, get a boat! That's it. I'm like, I'm good, I'm good. Getting myself back almost on my own. You know, like one guy got scared. Good on ya. Um, this guy Hans from America. He goes, good on you, tough guy. I'm like, nah, I've got this, I got this. Anyway. So I went back and got on the pontoon and just started pouring bottled water over my head. And then I got the boat back to Max and then looked for Shaz, and she was already stitching up my brother. He had a little cut on his back. So. And then someone said,, Matt's looking for you. Cut his head and neck. And she thought,, if he's asking for something, he's in a bad way. So then she saw my head and she thought I'd cracked. I'd actually, like, fractured my skull, but it was actually bits of coral coming out of my head. .Far out. So she pulled that, pulled the bits of coral out. He got some local, which was good. We'll just put it in the carts and then pulling bits of coral out the tweezers, and then got a toothbrush for an hour and just scrubbing it. That was the gnarly part. I just had to. [00:06:01] Michael Frampton: Scrubbing and all this peroxide or iodine or something. Yeah. [00:06:04] Matt Grainger: With, um. Yeah. Just with, um. Yeah. Like light alcohol. Yeah. Just. And just so you don't kill the flesh too much. Like, not too gnarly. Um, but just getting it all out, and that's. I reckon that saved me for sure. And then obviously took about two hours to stitch up, which was gnarly. And I was just doing I've been doing a lot of breath training like coaching, apnea training. And I saw resonance breathing, which is like a second inhale six second exhale. . So just going into that just and that helped big time. That was like a three hour ordeal which could have been a long time. Felt like a long time. But it wasn't as long as I thought. And then she put like a face mask over it so I couldn't see. And then, um, yeah, The rest is history. And then I surfed the next day., you did not. Yeah I know. He taped it up. I just said, I'll get two. I'll get one. Wait, I'll get one wave. And I did some tests, like I was jumping on one leg to see if I had concussion and then, no, I'm not well in the head anyway, uh, and then I came. I wore a helmet, of course, and then I didn't surf for after that day. I didn't surf for three and a half days. And then after that I was good to go because I was on. [00:07:21] Matt Grainger: I was having, uh, four courses of antibiotics. I four, four tablets of antibiotics every day, washing it with, um, fresh water. And we're getting she was breaking up antibiotics and putting it inside the cup as well. Yeah. And she and she left a little bit of one of the gnarly cuts. Didn't do it too tight. So bits of coral would still come out if it did. There's still little bits popping out, far out. But yeah. So I'm wearing a helmet from now on when it's gnarly like that. So I went to G-land. After that we had another swell at Max and Surf Greenbush, but I had one of those soft shell helmets that Tommy Scott wears. Yeah. By, um, DMC. It's like a rugby helmet. Yeah, yeah, but they're nice and light, but they're, um. Yeah. So that that felt good. And then I wore it in g-land every surf even because I didn't want to get hit and break the cuts open anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got the stitches out after six days and they healed well. Yeah. So wow. But from now on I'm going to. If it's gnarly and low tide and heavy, I'll be wearing a helmet. Yeah. No. Fair enough. But I was lucky I didn't get concussion and brain damage or lose an eye or nose or whatever. Yeah., yeah. [00:08:32] Michael Frampton: And I mean, and any sort of coral cut infection is such a huge risk, right? [00:08:38] Matt Grainger: I reckon like, even there was a girl, it was actually a girl out in the water. She. Her name's Kat. She does immense heavy new for about six months with a with harm. So her partner and they they had a long boat with um with a solar panel on top and just go around the islands and she, she had a cut on her foot. She went to seek a cut and just had a shower. So that got that sort of told. And she told me this story like a week before. And then she got this, this flesh eating, um, microbe in her foot. And she basically went delirious and had to go to she went to Padang and their hospital was too dirty and gnarly. So the hands got her out of there, carried her onto the fast ferry, then went to Jakarta and she had like three skin grafts and then back to LA. Yeah, just from that. So that straight away I was like, I'm not getting my head touching any, any, um, any shower water. So I was just it sounds very first world, but I was just every time I wash my head, I was just with bottled water. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a good tip for people out there. yeah. Yeah. Look after your carts. Yeah. Always look after my carts. Even feet. You know, I went to Chofu. First time I went to Chofu in 2000. A tiny little cuts on my feet. And it was the last day. And I was like, last day, who cares? And then I got home and I got stacked. I couldn't walk. I went to my. I went to my glands. And straight away I was on antibiotics and prednisone and it went away. But that was nasty. So it taught me a good lesson. Yeah. So get on, get on to your rep cards quickly people when you go to the tropics. [00:10:17] Michael Frampton: Yeah. You got to clean them eh. I remember I touched the reef in Arugam Bay in Sri Lanka once. Like just got this tiny little graze. Thought nothing of it. Just put like a little bit of iodine cream on it. That's all I did. And then two days later, it's just like 50 cent welt that's throbbing. [00:10:33] Matt Grainger: And I had to hit. [00:10:35] Michael Frampton: Yeah. Had to get some antibiotics. So should have just scrubbed it out with a toothbrush and done the right thing at the time. But it was such a small cut, you thought nothing of it. But they must have just been little bits of coral in there or something. [00:10:47] Matt Grainger: Yeah, yeah, that was one of the ones where the feeder chirps. Tiny little, like little nicks. Yeah. So, yeah, to get that tape. Yeah. So the tip from Shaz. Doctor. Shaz, my partner. Get. Take her. I always have, like, a spare toothbrush. That's clean. You can't even get it from that. If you get it from the hotel. But you never brush your teeth with it, so it's totally clean. And just scrub it. Scrub it. Um, use the little wipes. The the iodine alcohol wipes. So you do one offs and not nothing else dirty. And then just keep checking it. Yeah. And there's that. There's that tayo gin. That's pretty good from Indo. You know that Chinese, that red bottle. That's always cool. That Chinese. It's called tayo gin or the ayam. They don't use cream. She said use because it just festers in the tropics. Use the powder. The powder? Yeah. The powders of the guy. Yeah. Okay. So that's a go and then cover them up. Yeah. If you do your feet too. I always wear shoes. People give me heaps of crap in Indo because I'm always wearing. If I've got cuts, I'll put shoes on because you're walking around. You get dirt in the cuts. Yeah. So it's important if we always forget especially. Yeah. You're like, oh nah, I'll be right. Or, you know, you see so many guys just get smashed and don't even do anything. Yeah. [00:12:03] Michael Frampton:yeah. It's not worth the risk. I used to you're still out charging, catching heaps of waves. [00:12:07] Matt Grainger: Yeah, still surfing a lot. Um, pretty much surf every day. Sometimes twice. Um, got the gym. Surfer's gym. Which is good. That keeps me fit and healthy. They working on the mobility that you taught me years ago, and. Yeah, just building on that. I think that's a big key is mobility. As we get older and even the younger athletes that we coach too. I've got some pros that train at our gym and and we've got them on a mobility program. Whereas strength training and I found lately like in the last few years, like having the ability and also the strength training is huge just for reducing, reducing injury, keeping strong. Like I'm 55 this month. I don't even talk about your age too. It's really important what you say out of your mouth. You know there's a, there's a quote by Bruce Lee is like be careful what you say with your words because that's why it's called spells and spelling. Like you're saying, you hear heaps of guys walk around and go, I'm done. I'm old, I'm an old man and all this. And you're like, hey, mate. Like, no, it's all relative. Like it's it's you know what? It's time. Really anyway. You know, like just this thing we've made up, but, you know, there's biological age. And if you keep yourself fit and healthy and moving and eat well, sleep well. You can keep keep rocking till you're in your 80s, I reckon. [00:13:29] Michael Frampton: Yeah, man, I was just reading. Listening to a book, actually, about all of that. And this Harvard professor did an experiment where she got a bunch of 80 year old men, and she put them in a house where everything in the house was as if it was 30 years ago, and they were only allowed. So the TV programs, the books, the furniture, and they were only allowed to talk, talk about things as if it was 30 years ago in the present. And within a few days, their eyesight improved. Health, like blood pressure, improved everything just by just like placebo. Like extreme placebo effect. Wow. [00:14:11] Matt Grainger: That's awesome. Yeah, it's rare to get that book. [00:14:14] Michael Frampton: It's a rare book. I'll. I'll forward it to you and I'll put it in the show notes for listeners, too. I think it's called the mind body Connection or something. I'll put it in the show notes and I'll send it to you. [00:14:23] Matt Grainger: And even when I was at, um, not trying to name drop here, but when I was at Nazaré, I came in, I totally led back to the harbor because he broke down. It's quite funny. Like it was a big day. Like 60 foot. Perfect. Nazaré. And I was with Lucas Pereira, who's from Mavericks, who trains with me. He was towing with me on that. We were just shifting partners all day. And then I said, you lead like I don't even know lead any way from then. And I said, you make leads out to sea doing nothing. We should go check on him. And he's like, yeah, right. So we hammered out the lead and he goes, yeah, I ran out of fuel, guys. And you're like, why? He goes, I was having too much fun. You know, every time the beeper light came on the warning signal that was low on fuel, I just turned it off. And because it was a really good day and it was a really good Nazaré, like, clean 60 foot faces and whatnot. Anyway, so I, we hooked up my ski to his ski and towed him back to the harbor. And we got back to the, um, got back to the wharf, and I was just chatting to him about how we've got a gym and I've been following what he does working XPT programs, and I do a lot of breathwork, but I really like breathwork. [00:15:36] Matt Grainger: And and I said, yeah, yeah, we don't we don't talk about age, you know, in our gym because what you said the word, don't you ever say that word in front of me again. And he got really gnarly. And I was like, okay, man, settle down. And um, so it's there's a lot of truth to it. Hey, I see, like, Chaz is, um, she's my wife. She's over 60, and she's getting better because she only started 20 years. And there's guys at the beaches that used to rip when they were 20, and they've given up at 50, or probably given up at 50 because it's in their mindset., my knees and stuff and my back stuff. And you're like, well, what do you do about it? Do you um, do you do any mobility or you know, what are you eating? What are you how are you sleeping? Or you know, I don't know. They're like, I don't know, you just like, okay. So yeah, it's funny isn't it? And I think I think we were lucky our age like we've, we've been introduced to a lot of stuff. And if you're curious about it, which you are and I am, there's so much stuff you can learn going down that rabbit holes. [00:16:41] Michael Frampton: yeah. It's never ending. Kind of. [00:16:42] Matt Grainger: Ten. The crew ten years before us, probably a lot of them missed out on that eating poor food, poor movement. Um, yeah, I think it's good. I've got the hoop. I've had the hoop for, like, uh, probably five years now. I find that's really good because I'm. I'm really diligent about my sleep. It can be gnarly some days, and it gives you a bad sleep score. You've got to kind of let that go, and not even your day is ruined. Because I know some athletes who will like that, and they're like, I had to get rid of it because it said I had a bad sleep score and I'd have a bad day. I'm like, no, no, you got to get past that. But sleep is huge. Hey, like and probably read that book by Matthew Walker that was, you know, everyone knew how important sleep was. You know, we cure cancer and all sorts of ailments. Balance. Yeah. So yeah, they'll always I try to have a little nap in the Arvo if I get time. Yeah. Try to have a nap every Arvo. And I think it's good to have a nap if I have the luxury, because you're just not talking. You're not thinking. You're just having a little break from the world and then back into it. Have a training session at the gym with the crew and then dinner in bed again. So that's my little routine. Yeah. And not being and not used to have to always wake up super early or to plan that I ought to be up early and out there for stuff. But if now if the waves aren't that good, I'm not going to get up early just to punish myself for the early just for the sake of being the first guy out there. So now, because I've found on the sleep on your sleep scores, when you do actually sleep that extra hour in the morning. Yeah. You get a lot of benefits. It's crazy. And if you do go to bed early. Yeah. Mm. [00:18:18] Michael Frampton: Does does is surfing the main motivator for you to stay fit and healthy? [00:18:23] Matt Grainger: Yeah. For sure. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Like I couldn't give a stuff like what I look like. I just want to actually be able to catch waves and still be able to surf. My brother and I just went to Macaronis together and we were both chatting that we probably surf better now than we were in our mid 20s, just because the boards are better. We've got more knowledge and we've kept our bodies good. Yeah. Yeah. So we've had no we've had no serious accidents though which is lucky. you know obviously head knocks and all that kind of stuff but nothing like haven't broken any major bones like bony broken hands and a few things like that, but not, you know, haven't broken a femur or anything, you know. So some guys obviously are disadvantaged if they have a major injury but haven't had any major injuries. And then now I've realized I used to always think when I was have had a niggle like a, like a niggling hip or, you know, you had to go to the chiropractor and you had to do this, you had to do and now you can kind of push through it and move through it. [00:19:24] Matt Grainger: I found that like. And if it's really serious, obviously go and see a physician, which is good. and you can get a really good massage or just to break that tissue down. But I found now you can move through pain and throughout the whole day like not, you know, everyone thinks, I've got to train for an hour and that's it. So I don't do it. You know, you can do little snacks like ten minutes here, you know, ten minutes in the morning, another ten minutes at lunchtime, another two minutes here, and then another two minutes and eventually kind of work through it. I remember when we were working together, you were pretty onto that early in the early days. Good diets. I love I like got into my fasting, which is good pretty much two meals a day. Love the bone broth. I'm doing a coffee, obviously. Black coffee, a little bit of coconut oil. So, yeah, that's just all these little hacks that we're learning. Just helping along the way, I reckon. [00:20:21] Michael Frampton: Yeah, but you've got that motivation. You want to keep surfing, you want to keep going to Indo and that's what. Yeah. That's what get you. Okay. No I'm not going to have that donut. I'm going to and I'm going to go to bed early because I want to I want to go and get barreled at Indo like. [00:20:36] Matt Grainger: no, it's such a good motivator. Yeah. And and it's, it keeps you young. Yeah. It keeps you young and young in the head too. And looking at boards that, you know, I'm still riding shore boards and my short boards like a five, five, nine. And I've got A53 Bobby quad that I ride in the wave pool. Yeah. So I can still ride short boards. yeah. And just having that and and the boards have gotten so good. Now, you know, just the rockers and the things all the shapers. And I remember Mike, Michael Ho was talking with his son Mason. I saw in an interview that he said, oh, dad, why do you think you're ripping so much now? And he goes to the boards and Michael's like, doesn't care. You know, he just he doesn't have Instagram or Facebook. He's just surfing and I've I've seen Coco out in the water when she's in Indo or here and she said, yeah pops. Just he just the proper. So he's, he's, he's not thinking about how he's 60 and he's charging you know. Yeah he's right. He's got, he's got new blades and getting tubed out back door and ripping on the backside at Alma-Ata and things like that. But yeah, that's the motivation is surfing. Yeah. And it's, it's such a fun sport. And I just always say to people, it's a puzzle. [00:21:51] Matt Grainger: You know, you every time you go for a surf, you're trying to work out that puzzle. It doesn't matter if it's one foot onshore or it's 20 foot bommies or it's crazy tubes in Indo, you're still trying to figure out how you're going to paddle in. How are you going to get to your feet? How are you going to generate speed? Is it a straight down drop? Is it a knifing drop? Am I going to get in my front foot early? All these little things that just come into play from all those years of experience, and you're trying to work out that puzzle, and then it's one foot. You just want to go out and do one big turn on a one footer and you're happy. So that's what keeps me motivated. Some days, even if it's crap, I'll still go out for like three waves and just I'll get my three waves and go to work and train. And I've got the training to, I've got rid of the cardio. So I'm sort of not really doing the cardio so much now. It's just strength and movement because if you do a good movement flow, you can get good cardio from that anyway. Yeah, I forgot my heart rate monitor and you're actually getting flexi, whereas you don't want to get stiff and then just doing the right strength training. [00:22:53] Matt Grainger: So you look at all the surfers now it's all legs, hardly any upper body, only back and legs. You don't want any chest and you don't want to overload the shoulders as well in your you know, the rotator cuff exercises are really good. So light weights on the shoulders, nothing heavy. So you can still get that mobility in your paddle. And you've got the power through your back for your paddle. So a lot of the strength training is like just Olympic rings, pull ups, maybe some skin. The cat. yeah. dumbbell pull ups as well, off the bench, all that kind of stuff. And then a lot of, a lot of,, obviously squats with the barbell, goblet squats, front squats, split squats, all that kind of stuff. It's super important, I reckon. So getting that mobility and doing the weights and getting that connection and feeling when you're doing the weight, not just doing it for the sake of it, like doing those reps and really thinking about that rep and just getting your body in those positions that you could do in the water on land. So when you go out there like a martial artist, you're you're ready to go. You've drilled it so many times it becomes second nature. Yeah. [00:24:01] Michael Frampton: No, strength training is so good. It's also for like strength training gives you it increases your body awareness actually, and just increases your maintains your bone density. And it's just it's so helpful. And if you're doing it do upper body. Lower body. It's it's about as doesn't get any more hard of a cardio workout than doing like a strength training circuit if you want to, you know, get the heart rate up. [00:24:26] Matt Grainger: What sort of work? What sort of stuff are you doing these days, like in your regime? [00:24:30] Michael Frampton:. Mine's so I had I've got,, I had ACL surgery in my early 20s and it's now almost, you know, bone on bone, basically. So a lot of my, a lot of my training is just keeping on top of that. so like, slow moving, heavy stuff with,, you know, have you seen the knees over toes guy? [00:24:55] Matt Grainger: Yeah, yeah. He's awesome. [00:24:56] Michael Frampton: Hey, backwards walking on the treadmill and just. Yeah, following some of his stuff. Uh, and just to keep the legs strong. Because it's interesting. Because they say it's bone on bone, right? And it can get like that, but your cartilage is gone. Your cartilage doesn't really come back. But there is scar tissue forms where the cartilage was. As long as that scar tissue is there, you're fine. If you do too much stuff and that scar tissue wears away. So if you do too much volume and you don't allow that scar tissue to to heal and reform and the fluids to come back, then it can be bone on bone, you get a real sore joint. But so now, as long as I keep the volume of what I'm doing on the knee, it's fine. You can actually you can actually go. [00:25:39] Matt Grainger: How many reps? [00:25:41] Michael Frampton: Actually, I would just sort of more like six reps. Only a couple of sets. But you know, because I've got a history of strength training. I know the form. I'm strong, I know what to do. But a backwards walking on the treadmill and some and lots of balance work as well, because it's actually those small little twitching movements in the joint that do the most damage. So if your balance is on point and your joint is nice and stable, then it's one of the big things as well. So keeping the balance, like standing on one leg with your eyes closed. Little things like that. Yeah I do. [00:26:16] Matt Grainger: I love the pendulum jumps with the, you know, the pendulum jump. So it's a one legged jump. Yeah. and we'll do that. More eyes closed as well. Yeah. When I coach a lot of the athletes as well, like before, they were competing, like, I'd say, like they'll do five jumps, eyes open, and then the last five closed. And it helps for that body awareness, you know, for late drops and. yeah, no big drops out of the lip and being aware of where their body is. Yeah. Yeah. And I even did it when I crack my head to check if I had concussion, I was like, yes, I'm fine. You know. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. But if you can jump one legged with your eyes closed, you pretty much. And you're fine. You don't have concussion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:27:03] Michael Frampton: No, I do a bit of sprinting. Sprinting as well. Sprinting is really good for you. So I do a bit of that and I still do like the bodyweight gymnastics style strength training as well. Still doing that. Following a guy called, uh, Nardi. Oh, man, I can't even pronounce his name. Nardi Orejuela or I can't remember how to pronounce it, but it's functional performance training. He's doing a lot of really unique stuff. He's worth a follow. He's pretty out there with some of what he says, but he's also got some really interesting tips. A lot of, you know, not necessarily heavy weights, but functional, functional stuff. Just he's worth a follow. [00:27:39] Matt Grainger: Cool. yeah. [00:27:40] Michael Frampton: And just keeping on top of the diet, diet and sleep, man, that's like you mentioned, man. Just keeping a clean diet, getting enough sleep and giving a good balance of rest and stress. [00:27:49] Matt Grainger: Because, yeah, life can get stressful, but it's only what you make it really like. But yeah, if you if you sleep well, if you have a good sleep, you can conquer anything. Really. Hey, I'll find two. The shoulders are important. Like the rotator cuff muscles. Important to keep that on top of that. Just like maintenance work like prehab, like lightweights, like 10% of your body weight, just getting in all those different angles because you do you can, you know, when you're, you know, those days when you're paddling super hard trying to make that wave where it's hollow, you're going to put a lot of stress on the shoulder joint. And I've had seen so many mates like you look at you got to look at your mates who had surgeries, you know what I mean? Like, it's always so, shoulders, knees and hips if you look after those. And spine pretty much ahead of the game. Yeah. Yeah. [00:28:40] Michael Frampton: Hanging dude. Hanging for your shoulders. Really good. [00:28:45] Matt Grainger: Just hanging. Awesome. [00:28:46] Michael Frampton: Active and passive. Hanging. And, I mean, I'm lucky. When I was living in the US, I did. I did three different DNS courses., yeah. [00:28:55] Matt Grainger: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember you doing that. Yeah. [00:28:57] Michael Frampton: And so I do a lot of that sort of rehab style training still. And that's really good for shoulders and and core that helps keep my shoulders in check. [00:29:07] Matt Grainger: I remember, I remember you got injured and I did the Ido portal course. Yes, I remember you did. Yeah, I think you did your hamstring right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. And I was a day before and he said, Matti, can you do this? And I went, yeah. And did a whole week with it. [00:29:22] Michael Frampton: Yeah. That's right. [00:29:23] Matt Grainger: Yeah. He was massive. It was massive on hanging. Yeah. And you know, the ring and the rings too. Yeah. And I find the rings or rings are better for a surfer too. Like doing chin ups, pull ups on a ring because you get that nice. Like you get that movement in the shoulder joint where it's just a straight bar. You don't really get that movement because we actually reach out and rotate our shoulder as we paddle. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, it was it was pretty. It was an interesting guy. Cool guy. Full on. Yeah. He is. Yeah. But yeah, I learned a lot. Yeah. [00:29:59] Michael Frampton: cool. Are you still doing ice baths? [00:30:01] Matt Grainger: Still doing that. [00:30:02] Michael Frampton: Yeah. [00:30:03] Matt Grainger: And our boss. And so on. Got an ice bath in the backyard and a sauna, which is lucky. And we got two at the gym now. We got two saunas and two ice baths. Wow. So. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Everyone loves them. Yeah. Everyone's created a little community there. Yeah, yeah. It's awesome. [00:30:21] Michael Frampton: What about LA? Have you looked into Light Health? [00:30:24] Matt Grainger: I have seen it. I haven't really done it personally. And it just looks it looks pretty interesting. It's just a matter of time and money. Yeah. In our in our sauna. I do have some infrared, but, like, not, some lighting, but, you know, it's not huge. Have you been looking into it? Well, it's it's just really interesting. [00:30:42] Michael Frampton: There's this guy, Jack cruise, who's been on about it for years, but now that there's sort of like 20 years, but now there's all these scientific studies coming out proving his theories right about how important, sunlight exposure is for health and how it turns on certain genes like the Pomc gene and and how if you're exposing yourself to too much blue light after the sun's gone down, how that affects blood sugar and circadian rhythms. And but if I mean, if you're getting up and going, surfing every day and getting to bed on time, it's funny, that's all. [00:31:14] Matt Grainger: Like Huberman and all that, like, yeah, they say go out and play, you know, go get the sun. Yeah. And, I, we live on the East Coast here, so every early surf, you're like, looking into the sun exactly in the morning. You know, you're blinking, going oh. And, you know, different on the West Coast. Yeah. If you go to bed at the right time. And I try not to look at my phone before I go to bed. So, Yeah, I just try to banish that, put it away because. Yeah, that's a bad habit, isn't it? Just before looking at the screen, try to look at computers as well. So onto that in that way. Yeah. Yeah. You can just go. Yeah. Just basic stuff. Yeah. Keeping those circadian rhythms. Yeah. Haven't done the glasses or anything like that. Like the. [00:31:58] Michael Frampton: The blue blocking glasses. Yeah. [00:32:01] Matt Grainger: Dave Asprey and whatnot. [00:32:02] Michael Frampton: Yeah. Yeah, they get into it a lot. They go hardcore on everything. [00:32:06] Matt Grainger: They go hardcore. I'm like, no. How am I? It's none of them. Don't you think there's a fine line between how much time you got in the day and. [00:32:15] Michael Frampton: exactly. But I mean, David Beckham and his mates, they're spending a lot of money on, like, days. Dave Asprey has a goal to live to 120. I think he might have even said 100, 150. But like and be healthy and functional at that age. So he's making sure that, you know, every day he's doing as much as he can. So those guys are going. I don't know. [00:32:38] Matt Grainger: I don't know if I want to live that long. Yeah. It's damn sad. You know what I mean? Like, you kind of want to just die normally. You know, like. [00:32:45] Michael Frampton: With dignity. Yeah. [00:32:47] Matt Grainger: Dignity? Yeah. Like you don't have to go. Yeah. Yeah. [00:32:50] Michael Frampton: Because if you're the only, you're the only one doing it. And like, you're you're still alive and healthy. Yeah. Friends are dead. You're like. [00:32:58] Matt Grainger: What was that? I mean, let's talk about that all the time. Yeah. They just overboard and and almost bring a lot of anxiety, I think, to like trying to keep on point. Like you're not actually like they want to get to this goal of being this age, but they're not actually having fun in the present. Like it's like I've still got to live your life. Hey, you got to still have fun with your friends, with your friends. And, you know, like, I'm not like, a total. I'm. There's no way I'm a total monk. Like, I'm. I still eat really well, but if I, you know, if I'm with with friends and family, I'm not going to go. I'm not eating that because I'm this, you know, like, yeah, I'll still want to be part of the group, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's not going to kill me. Yeah. I don't want to have a good time with with my friends. I'm not going to be that guy that's like, oh, no, I don't do that. Because, I want to live to 150. [00:33:46] Michael Frampton: Exactly. Yeah. I'm going to go to bed at 8:00 on Christmas Day because you want to live to 150? [00:33:55] Matt Grainger: You know, it's kind of like. Yeah, it's counterintuitive. Really? [00:33:59] Michael Frampton: Yeah. [00:34:00] Matt Grainger: What about if you get to whatever, you get hit by a car? Exactly. You know. Exactly. I don't mean that in a bad way.. You got it. Still? Yeah. And it's funny, like, all this grounding, you know, we we hardly wear shoes in was, you know, you hardly wear shoes when I, when I hang out with you. Yeah, but hardly shoes. Oh, Maddy, you're wearing shoes today. That's weird. I'm like, oh, well, I had to go to remaining shoes. [00:34:27] Michael Frampton: I hate. [00:34:28] Matt Grainger: It. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:34:30] Michael Frampton: No, but that's the thing. All the stuff that's coming out in the latest health stuff, all these guys, it's what we do anyway. Especially as surfers. We get early morning sun. We're getting lots of grounding work because we're surfing in the ocean. That's the best way to get your. Your grounding done is in the ocean or walking on the sand in bare feet. We're getting it done anyway. But it's just interesting, all these studies coming out and and proving that. [00:34:55] Matt Grainger: You can you can buy a grounding mat and walk outside. Put your feet on the on the cold grass, you know, like, the cold sand. Like I'll be surfing the wave pool a lot lately and it's super fun. But you still don't get that, feeling of the energy or the ocean. Like, you know, it doesn't matter if your body surf, surf, body board, whatever. If you dive in the ocean for a swim, you always come out feeling amazing, don't you? Yeah. Just from it's from the negative ions though, isn't it. [00:35:24] Michael Frampton: Yeah. That's part of it. Yeah. [00:35:25] Matt Grainger: Yeah, yeah part of it. Yeah. And just maybe the salt, the energy of the waves just being in nature and. Yeah, it's funny, you can go on the wave pool and you have a good time. You don't get that buzz of that feeling on your whole body from the natural waves. Yeah. And the salt and all that. Yeah. [00:35:46] Michael Frampton: How much time have you spent in the wave pools? [00:35:49] Matt Grainger:there's a new one in Sydney now. Sydney and I. Every Thursday I teach a fitness class to the staff. I've been doing that for the past six weeks. So I go out every Thursday and I make sure I serve from 4 to 5, and then I run the class at 530 to 630. So that's pretty cool. Like, I'll ride my little five three Bobby quad and, get about 20 waves. And then we ran our we ran a pretty cool course the other week. We did a get ready for your master class. It was like an endo masterclass clinic. So we taught people how to ride left tubes. So we had the expert mode, which is just a barrel. It's pretty cool. You take off, you can do a Rio or just a set up turn and get this nice tube. That's a pretty cool tube. Like the barrel is wider than it is high. Yeah, you got to get quite low in the tube. And then it kind of turned the corner a bit like macaronis. So we did um, we did about 30 minutes. I broke down all the best surfers in the world getting tubed on the TV screen have had eight participants, and so we broke that down for placement, for backhand front side, you know, getting and then we did movement patterns like mobility patterns to open up people's hips and, and ankles, because that's pretty much what you need when getting low in tubes and most tube riding. [00:37:08] Matt Grainger: So we did that, we went and surfed for an hour. Everyone got about 12 waves. And then we there's a I it's crazy. They film this. I called Flow State on the left and the right, but we're only on the left. You come in and it's got all the clips of you. So I got a coaches password. So I went through everyone's clips and broke down what they were doing. Right. What they're doing wrong. Yeah, it was rad. And then we had had lunch and then we did apnea training. So then we went into the leisure pool, which is heated because the wave pool is only about 11 degrees at the moment. So yeah, it's quite it's quite cold. Yeah. So they just pulled 28. So we, we taught them the science of breath holding. Then we went and did it in the water. And then she did a chat on our endo. What's it like in your first aid kit? And, you know, rough cuts? Yeah, it was awesome. That was a that was a full day. It was fun. [00:38:00] Michael Frampton: All right. So I did. [00:38:01] Matt Grainger: That., had some fun days with the Surface Gym crew. We'll book out the pool for two hours. And so two different modes, one the tube, the expert modes and tube. And they've got advanced, which is half turns, half tube. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Good fun. And then Isabella Nichols two. She'll fly down and we'll I'll coach her for two days before an event. So before Huntington, we tested out two of the boards. See what you actually got. Two brand new boards of the HD and then obviously had more, but she had these two boards that she thought were going to be the ones. And they were so pretty cool to work that out. Yeah, we did some also some work before Bolido. So it's not a it's a good coaching tool. Yeah., because you got you guaranteed getting one left and right, so I'll book it. We'll book a session on the right and the left, and you're right there that she can come in and break it down each wave and go through some foot placement and hand placement stuff where you place the board on the wave and back out there. Yeah. So it's pretty cool. And you got all the footage on film as well and also got the flow state. [00:39:04] Michael Frampton: All right. It's like the driving range for surfers. [00:39:07] Matt Grainger: Yeah it is. It's the full driving range. So it keeps you fit too. Like it's actually it's a full leg workout because the way you get weaker, you've got to stay right in the pocket and push real hard with your feet and your hips. Yeah a lot of. Yeah. It's pretty interesting. Yeah. It's good. Good fun. You feel like especially in the tube major. Every time I'm just on the tube I feel like a 15 year old kid again. Like you're guaranteed a barrel. You know, you're guaranteed 15 to 20 barrels that up and. Yeah. Pretty amazing. [00:39:34] Michael Frampton: Oh, that's so good. you're still doing good. Did you. Are you still taking people to macarons as well? [00:39:40] Matt Grainger: Yeah, we've got one coming up, yeah. Next February, March 2025. We're doing. Chaz is doing the movement, and I'm doing the surfing right. Yeah, we've got two and I got a goose and Ari, who helped us as well as coaching. They're awesome guys and good coaches. Yeah. Yeah. It's rad. Yeah. So we basically surf from 6 a.m. till 1130 and there's two filmers there. So they the filmers get all the footage and then we, we break down the footage at 1:00 for about an hour, and then we'll go surfing again. And then sometimes if the waves are small, we'll do apnea training in the pool. So that's like a week, seven day classes or seven day clinics. So and then some people do two weeks. Yeah. Wow. But yeah it's super fun. And you know, we go to the Thunders as well because, uh, McKenzie's small. It's always two foot bigger up there. So yeah, it's good fun. Yeah. It's an awesome, awesome clinic because it's such a mechanical wave that goes from 1ft to 6 foot. Such a rippable wave. You know, just in the pocket. You can work on people's techniques and you see people improve real quick because they've got a running wall. It's not like a, you know, sitting right here, but sometimes you can just get close down. If it's the south swell you just got, you know, the people can only do one turn if that. Obviously if it's perfect, no swells here. Great. You know, all the all the, all the beaches are lining up. Machias is unbelievable. You can do four turns so you can really work on people's, you know how they you know how they sort of start the wave speed generation where they do their bottom turn, their top turn and good place for an upper body rotation. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. It's good fun. Yeah. All right. That's it. [00:41:29] Michael Frampton: They all filled up. Clean up? [00:41:31] Matt Grainger: Uh. Not yet. No, I think there's still some spots left. Yeah. So they're filling macaroni, doing the marketing right now for next year, but yeah, they get. Yeah. We got some good numbers this year. I think next year is going to be even better. Yeah. So it's a good gig? Yeah. It's good fun. Yeah. And, you know, good, good bonding with people. Everyone's there to learn and have a good time. [00:41:51] Michael Frampton: I'll put a link to to details about that. Show notes. [00:41:55] Matt Grainger: Awesome. Yeah. Awesome. [00:41:57] Michael Frampton: You guys had a big swell there a few days. Yeah. We had. [00:42:01] Matt Grainger: Yeah. Last week. Uh, last. Yeah, we had a massive swell. Monday. Tuesday. Wednesday. Thursday. Friday. Only bummer had really strong southerly winds. So we, being the captain, towed the car and naughty bomb in the mornings when it was southwest. And then the wind just came up and blew it out. The dead man's was on. Yeah. We got to surf that on our own. Dead man's pumping. Have a look at that. [00:42:27] Michael Frampton: I saw the footage. Yeah, some of it, but it was. [00:42:30] Matt Grainger: It wasn't many people making them. Hey, it looked pretty gnarly. How cool is it? If you have a look at, uh, this is living by Carl how often he flew. He flew all the way over for it. [00:42:41] Matt Grainger: He does that. does that blog and, Yeah, he did. He didn't even make a way. Like a proper big one. He didn't make one way. He broke in the board, got smashed. He was coming this way. Gnarly. Cuz it's kind of like the heavy cake. Then it's got a step. Yeah. And if it doesn't open up, it just collapses on you. Yeah. And you don't know when you're paddling in. You're going to be a good one or not. there's one guy called Sam Jones. Got a cracker like he made. He actually made a really good one. But the rest of the crew. Yeah. Pretty much got smashed. There was a lot of carnage. Choo choo. Kelleher did a big airdrop. Dislocated his elbow joint., he got that? no. He just airdropped and then went back over the fall. Popping the elbow. Yeah, I'm kind of done with that wave. I know it's pretty gnarly backside. You just be looking for an injury and it's crowded now. Like I have to surf it on my own with, like, you know, 4 or 5 people. And now it's everyone's out there trying to get their photo taken or their clip, which is cool. You know, they're all younger and there'll be 30, 40 people out on a semi-closed reef that's 10 to 12 foot. [00:43:52] Matt Grainger: So we can get the jet skiing off the off the car and step on it. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And then we can check out Makaha, you know, go. Makaha. German banks, North Bay cruise around being the captain. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. You got to be ready to go for dead man's like I've. I've snapped boards out there. I've had 30 sea urchins at my 40 out there once. I just went over the falls and landed feet first. And that was pretty gnarly. Injury. Went to hospital. Like, I, I couldn't walk, so I had to paddle back to North Steyne, back to the school, and drove up to the hospital. And they couldn't even get they left about four in there. And then three stayed. Three stayed in there for about three months. And and I Right when I popped out about that big, like three months later when I went snowboarding. gnarly. I remember Barton Barton Lynch actually got. He had to go to surgery with sea urchins out there. Scotty Romaine broke his back about four years ago. Out there, captains broke ins, MCL, PCL. Just copy breaking your ribs. Yeah, that's a good way to get injured. But it's if you're young, young buck and you want to charge, go for it. [00:45:03] Michael Frampton: Well you gotta you gotta pay to play sometimes. [00:45:06] Matt Grainger: Yeah. Yeah yeah. The, the the risk out there that have outweigh the rewards. But yeah there's some really there's some good surfing going on. Some of the young guys the young guys in pressure like so grueling. Lex O'Connor, some of the young dudes are like 18 year olds just charging it and making barrels, too. So. But this last world was pretty wonky. But we had a real good swell a week before that. Like a beast or a swell like Narromine was off its face, mouth narrower. We had like nor'west winds and eight foot barrels and that was that was pretty fun. So yeah, that was a more user friendly. And it was pumping north out or the whole East Coast. Yeah. On the Sydney Northern Beaches was going off. So yeah that went that went for three days. So we've had a really good year. Last year was about like a pretty bad winter. Yeah. To be here for Sydney and the sandbanks are good because we had that big swell. But yeah, pretty pretty stoked. What about yourself? Any waves your way? [00:46:05] Michael Frampton: Some. Not. Not too many. We've had a shit winter, actually. We've had heaps of. Usually you get the southerly swells here where I'm staying at the moment, but,, I've just been heaps of northerly nor east swells of low period for some reason. Almost like summer had weird weather patterns here. The south swells that come through have heaps of west in them, so they just go straight past. I don't know. [00:46:27] Matt Grainger: And the baits are good. [00:46:28] Michael Frampton: There's there's points and river bars around here. So we just need a decent high, long period swell and it turns on, but it still goes surfing but. And get waves and had a great summer. Great summer with the kids. Yeah. [00:46:42] Matt Grainger: Awesome. [00:46:43] Michael Frampton: But the winters. Yeah. Average winter here. And it's pretty. [00:46:47] Matt Grainger: Crazy. We've actually got,, the water's cold, like, it's, 14 degrees. Yeah. So sometimes it'll be. It'll be 20 in winter usually. But this year it's cold. Yeah, but the good. Yeah. So every morning pretty much offshore. So that's kind of cool. Yeah. With this with this cold water being lucky. Yeah. Random. [00:47:06] Michael Frampton: The water here, the water here is warmer than usual. I can still go surfing in A23 at the moment. No way. Yeah. The water's so warm here. It's just all these east and northeast flow. It's keeping the water warm. [00:47:19] Matt Grainger: That's pretty cool. Yeah, we. The wave pools. The wave pool. Actually, the concrete holds the cold. yeah, I bet I pulled about about 1111. [00:47:29] Michael Frampton: That's 43 bodies business. [00:47:31] Matt Grainger: Yeah, yeah, I just I don't wear booties, but I the guy's wearing gloves and hoods and just make sure you paddle out real quick and keep yourself warm. But yeah, last year we were last year we went to, Mexico and I. Yeah. So that was cool., but this year I'm just going to hang back. I've been building this app called The Surfer's Compass, so I want to get that out by the 1st of September. Hopefully I'll be doing that for a year. So just breaking down all the best surfers in the world. Women and men take offs, paddling, bottom turn, top turns, cuttings, airs, tubes and then throwing in movement patterns that will help those maneuvers and then breathwork and mindset. Yeah. So that's been a fun little project. [00:48:15] Michael Frampton: All right. [00:48:16] Matt Grainger: So yeah be working on that. I was helping with the graphics and Joe Barker with all the edits. But yeah, that's keeping me busy. It's like a, you know like you've done a lot of projects and you just want to get it done? Yeah. I mean, I'd want to do it right, but we were told we probably could have had it done in May, but I want to do it perfect. So yeah, hopefully we get it out by. Yeah. So I got like Ethan Ewing, Mick Fanning and Kelly Slater, Jeff Gilmore, Aaron Brooks, Isabella Nichols. [00:48:42] Michael Frampton: Parker cool. Look forward to seeing it. [00:48:44] Matt Grainger: Yeah. So that's what's keeping me busy. Yeah, yeah. And all the other stuff. The surf school and and the surf gym. [00:48:51] Michael Frampton: And all the barrels. [00:48:53] Matt Grainger: All the barrels. [00:48:54] Michael Frampton: Oh, sweet. You have to let let us, let us know when it's when it's released. And I'll spread the word. [00:48:58] Matt Grainger: Sure. That'll be awesome. Yeah. But yeah, you can't beat a barrel, can you? I always say to people, once you get it, why don't you get tubed? You're done. You won't be able to hold a relationship or a job and. [00:49:09] Michael Frampton: Yeah, it's addictive. Yeah. Healthy addiction though. It's on my list. I'll probably sit down with the boys this evening and we'll watch the replays and stuff. Yeah, one. [00:49:18] Matt Grainger: Of the local boys did really well, so yeah, it's pretty, pretty good result. You got to check it out. Yeah, it's actually awesome spectacle. How was,. Did you see the the big day? Yeah. [00:49:29] Michael Frampton: Yeah. No, I watched that with. [00:49:31] Matt Grainger: Joe and Ramsey. Booker. Joe, do you reckon they were charging harder than the WSL because there was more on the line, like, you know, medals and, like, they always charge in the WAFL that they go hard as. But some of them are not the nailing. Some of the Wipeouts were heavy weren't they. But yeah. [00:49:47] Michael Frampton: And also. [00:49:48] Matt Grainger: Connor O'Leary. [00:49:49] Michael Frampton: Though also like they had different camera angles too to the. So I don't know if they had even more expensive cameras to it just. Yeah different like just a higher level production as well. I think that helped. but certainly in the Medina it was just always everything Medina does just looks effortless, doesn't it? [00:50:06] Matt Grainger: It's that good, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. He's amazing. Yeah. He's. He's,. Yeah. There. Ethan Ewing. Yeah. They're solid as those guys. But it was good seeing the other guy from Peru. Yeah, it was Cabrera, wasn't it? Yeah. Like,. Yeah. Just seeing the other countries. That's pretty good, isn't it, about the Olympics, like, cared a lot more diversity. Yeah. I mean, I love the WAFL, but especially when they do the cup after the cup is just too much familiar., everyone's too familiar. You know, you go,, I've seen this heat before, even though it's in a different location. But it's good when you get wild cards and that variety and you just think,, I've seen another angle of surfing, you know, like, wow, this guy's insane. [00:50:48] Michael Frampton: All right. Matt. Hey, it's just gone 3:00. I better go in there. I got to do school pickup now, but thanks for thanks for doing the show again. Really appreciate it. [00:50:57] Matt Grainger: Awesome, mate. Awesome, brother. Take it easy. [00:51:00] Michael Frampton: Good to catch up. [00:51:01] Matt Grainger: Good one. Hopefully. See you when you come to Sydney. [00:51:03] Michael Frampton: That'd be great. Yeah. For sure. We'll be over there at some point., yeah. Keep me in. Keep me in the loop. Yeah, yeah. Keep me in the loop with the app. So. Yeah. Excellent. [00:51:13] Matt Grainger: That'd be cool. Awesome. Awesome, mate. [00:51:15] Michael Frampton: Thank you for tuning in to the Surf Mastery podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend. 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I Have Heard Your Prayers And Seen Your TearsIsaiah 38:5 “Go and tell Hezekiah, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of your father David, says: I have heard your prayer and seen your tears; I will add fifteen years to your life.”I thought I would take a minute at the beginning of this episode to explain how I get the scripture verses that I use at the beginning of each episode.  Every Thursday I attend a Catholic Charismatic prayer group.  During our meetings we begin with a 5-10 minute teaching, then we go into praise and worship.  Then we go into speaking in tongues and quiet time where we are silent and listen for anything the Lord wants to share with us, often times that will include scripture verses.  I use the scripture verses from these meetings as I figure if God is sharing them with us, they are probably good ones to share with you.  This morning, however, I am leading prayer group and I did not want to use a scripture verse that had just been used at the meetings.  So, I prayed this morning that God would give me a verse.  Now I have been part of this group for 3-4 years now.  Every week God shows up and shares with us.  And yet, I am constantly surprised when he does.  Or maybe I'm not surprised He shows up, but how He shows up.  This morning I was not sure how I would know what scripture to use.  I thought I would maybe just open the Bible and pick one, or maybe one from my scripture writing would jump out at me.  I was unclear and if I am honest, I am not sure I fully believed that God would show me what scripture to use.  Then, right before I finished my prayer time the words Isaiah 38:5 flashed in my mind.  It was as if it was written in the air.  I could see it plain as day.  This has never happened to me before.  God has spoken to me, but not that plainly.I share this story with you because I want you to know that God is there for you.  He hears your prayers.  Just as it says in Isaiah 38:5 “‘This is what the Lord, the God of your father David, says: I have heard your prayer and seen your tears; I will add fifteen years to your life.”  Sometimes we wonder if God is really listening.  When I read this verse this morning my first thought was of a friend of mine.  She is really struggling right now and I felt like God was talking to her when He said “I have heard your prayers and seen your tears.”  Then I got to thinking and I actually have several friends that are struggling right now.  Struggling with some really difficult issues. For all of you that are struggling right now, I want you to know that you are not alone.  Life is difficult for so many people right now.  On top of all that we went through over this past year, you have had added levels of difficulty.  I am so sorry that life has been so hard.  We have had many difficulties this past year as well.  Remote learning was a challenge.  The isolation from friends was really tough on our oldest son.  It has been a crazy year.  And yet, I can see God was with me through all of it.  What if you can't see that?  What if you don't know where God was in all of it?  You can be someone who loves God, someone who has a close relationship with God, and also you can question where God is and what his plan is.  King David was anointed, he had a very close relationship with God, and yet even He questioned God.  In Psalm 13:1-3 “How long, Lord? Will you forget me forever?  How long will you hide your face from me?  How long must I wrestle with my thoughts and day after day have sorrow in my heart?  How long will my enemy triumph over me?”  Have you had these thoughts before?  Have you, or are you going through something, and you are wondering how long you have to endure the suffering before God will save you, before He will answer your prayers?If this is you first, I want to let you know that this is okay.  Sometimes we can make our pain worse because on top of the pain of the situation, we feel guilty because we are questioning the Lord, or we are mad at the Lord.  Sometimes our minds say things like, “If I were a good christian I would just trust God,” or “I've had a relationship with the Lord a long time, I shouldn't be worried, or questioning.”  God can handle our questioning and our anger.  He is strong enough for anything you have for Him.  He wants you to turn to Him in times of need.  You are not the only person angry with God and questioning how long you will have to suffer.  Trust me, there are many people in the same boat.  Please let the guilt go.  Please do not judge yourself for questioning.   David questioned often,  just read the psalms and you will see just how often, and yet God chose David's lineage to bring forth the savior of the world.  Second, I want you to know that this scripture verse is for you.  God wants to talk directly to you right now when he says “I have heard your prayers, and seen your tears.”  He is there with you, even when you can't see Him or feel Him.  He is there every moment of your life.  I know it is a struggle sometimes, many times, to understand why you had to go through some of the things you had to go through.  I know that the not knowing, is sometimes the hardest part.  I want to assure you that things will get better.  I don't know how and I don't know when.  I do know that God wants ridiculously good things for you.  It says in Jeremiah 29:11 “For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”  God will get you through these difficult times and there will be great times on the other side of this hardship.  Just hang on.  Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and you will make it through this hard time.I would like to give you two things that may help get you through this difficult time.  First, is from the same psalm that I read from earlier.  In Psalm 13 David was questioning the Lord and asking how long he was going to have to suffer. Then he ended the Psalm with verses 5-6 “But I trust in your unfailing love; my heart rejoices in your salvation.  I will sing the Lord's praise, for he has been good to me.”  David does question the Lord, and then he turns back to praising the Lord.  Praising the Lord in a difficult time can really be helpful in getting out of that difficult time quicker.  Now, I can already hear some of you saying, “but what if I am struggling to trust in God's unfailing love?,” or “What if I don't know what to say?” This is ok, God knows this.  When I struggle to believe in something I go to Mark 9:24, “Lord, I believe; help my unbelief!”Sometimes we get to a place where we can't pray.  Has this happened to you?  If so I want you to know you are in good company.  I am not sure if you know this or not, but Mother Teresa had this happen to her.  She was so close to the Lord, she was doing His work every single day and yet she went through really long, like several years long, dry spells where she could not pray.  She would enter into her prayer time and nothing would come.  The enemy has a way of making us feel like we are the only one that these things happen to and that we are awful people because of it.  I just want you to know that YOU ARE NOT ALONE.  I think that is part of the reason why God raises up Saints.  I think we usually put them on pedestals and when we do I think we are missing the point.  I think the Saints are actually to show us very real people that are not perfect, they made mistakes, in some cases big mistakes, and yet still were capable of carrying out God's work.  God does not use perfect people.  He takes broken, imperfect people and makes them perfect through His grace.  I think the Saints are showcasing God's redemption.  If you read about the saints you will quickly take them off the pedestal and you will be able to see parts of yourself in them.  If God could turn their lives around so completely, He could do it for all of us.The second thing is to read scripture.  If you are going through a difficult time and you are questioning if God is there, reading scripture can be helpful.  Seeing how God has shown up for others in the past can help you see how He may show up for you.  If you struggle to trust in the Lord, read passages that talk about God's faithfulness.  If you struggle to believe God loves you read passages on God's love.  I have recently learned of something called scripture writing.  I had no idea what this was.  Well, obviously I could deduct what it meant, but I didn't know how to do it.  How do you know what scripture to write?  How much to write?  I had several questions.  The truth is, there is no one way to do it. The point is to familiarize yourself with scripture and you remember things better when you write them down.  However, I like when things have directions that I can follow.  So, if you are like me, here is what I do.  I go online and google scripture writing plans.  There will be tons of images that come up.  Most of them have a theme, so I pick one that I feel is resonating with me for that month.  One month I picked Be Bold, another month I picked Repentance & Renewal.  Then the plan tells you which verses to write each day, it is usually just a verse or two.  I just got a notebook and each day I write the verse for the day.  It has been really great and I enjoy those 5-10 minutes with the Lord.  If you are struggling right now, maybe give scripture writing or praising the Lord a try and see how you feel afterwards.  If you are not sure you would know what to say for praising the Lord, you could always listen to christian music and let the artists praise for you.  If you are not sure what to pray, you can pray the scriptures.  The Book of Psalms is also a great place to go for praising the Lord.  If you feel like you can't praise the Lord in your circumstances, you can borrow David's praises.  You will get through this hard time.  God is with you!  You are not alone.  He may let you fall, but He will be there to catch you and put you back on even stronger ground.  You are amazing and God loves you more than you will ever know.Dear Heavenly Father, I ask that you be with everyone listening to this today.  I ask that you let them see where you are in all of this.  Lord, sometimes we don't understand your plan or why we have to go through the hard times. We ask that you bless us with a supernatural trust in you.  We ask that you help us to feel you in those really hard times.  Lord, we ask that you fortify us with strength and protect us when we are weak.  Lord, some of us are going through so really difficult times and can't see the way out.  I ask that you shine a light on each step of the way and fill us with assurance that you are there and are leading us out.  Lord I thank you for being strong enough to handle our questions and our anger.  I thank you for your mercy that when we are angry with you or questions where you are you do not get angry with us.  I thank you for the graces you give us to each and every day.  Lord we love you and are constantly amazed by you.  Father, we ask all of this in accordance with your will and in Jesus's holy name. 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Welcome to another energy boost with Women of Impact, Today I have another Q&A from an Instagram Live that's sure to help you stop faking it and start living it. This is your time to make moves like a total frikin' badass!  Every Thursday I go live on Instagram because helping women build confidence that makes their biggest dreams reality is what I do. Today we're talking about: How to fully embrace confidence without treading into cocky chick territory, Why unconditional self love is bullsh*t and the key to powerful self-love that needs no one's validation to thrive because you are a badass afterall),  And my best advice for turning 10,000 no's into your most powerful yes yet! Building confidence is so frikin' important to me because I remember what it was like to lack confidence and not trust yourself, not believe in yourself, and feel too afraid to leap at opportunities because the b*tch in your head says you're not enough!  I so enjoy doing Lives on Instagram and taking deep dives with incredible women we can all relate to and learn from so you get to build the confidence you need to be the hero in your own life. And I have a FREE course just for you to get your started. Go to 4stepworkshop.com and let's build that confidence together! Follow Me, Lisa Bilyeu On Your Favorite Platform: Website: https://www.radicalconfidence.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisabilyeu/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisabilyeu  Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisabilyeu  Sponsors: Women of Impact Podcast is sponsored by Growthday Network: https://growthday.com/podcasts Get Free Ground Beef for Life on top of $20 off your first order, when you go to https://bit.ly/ButcherBoxWOI and use code WOI. Are You Ready for EXTRA Impact? Calling all Badasses!! If you really want to level up your confidence game, check out the WOMEN OF IMPACT SUBSCRIPTION, specially designed to turn you into the badass you were born to be!  Women of EXTRA Impact Subscription Benefits: New episodes delivered ad-free Exclusive access to listen to Women of Impact round table discussions, weekly motivation, previously unreleased episodes, and more!  Subscriber-only access to an additional 4 podcasts with hundreds of archived Women of Impact episodes, meticulously curated into themed playlists, and updated weekly. Looking to boost your confidence? Check out the Get Confident playlist.  Want to repair and heal your relationships? Start with Love Lab.  Curious about your health? We've got you covered in Health Hub.  And of course, weekly boosts of mini-motivation from Lisa herself that'll have you strutting through life with your head held high on the Badass Boosts playlist  Don't settle for mediocrity when you can be extraordinary! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/457ebrP Subscribe on all other platforms (Google Podcasts, Spotify, Castro, Downcast, Overcast, Pocket Casts, Podcast Addict, Podcast Republic, Podkicker, and more) : https://impacttheorynetwork.supercast.com/

Wellness + Wisdom Podcast Host and Wellness Force Media CEO, Josh Trent, shares why the rite of passage is an important step in transitioning into adulthood. In this solocast, you will learn: Rite of passage as a tool of maturation for individual and cultural cohesion. Why young people are becoming confused about how to move to the responsibility of being an adult. The three stages of the hero's journey: Separation, transition, and return. What a 10-day vision quest is about. How other cultures celebrate the transition from childhood to adulthood. Why mass media distracts us and creates shame and comparison. How to identify if you're in a need of a rite of passage. The solution: Listening to what your ancestors are trying to tell you. What clues our Native American ancestors have given us. Why there's never a bad time to embark upon a rite of passage. The signs that show you that you should embark upon a rite of passage. Are You Stressed Out Lately? 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Combining special breathwork infused with safe vape cannabidiol, BREATHE gives you everything you need to let go of old weight, de-stress, and build immunity so you can live your best life. In this special (limited time) offer, you will receive: - Lifetime access to BREATHE - Free upgrades to all future training modules - Free additional training modules - Special VIP coupons for safe vape, essential oils, CBD, nootropics, and more - Private WF group access   Listen To Episode 510 As Josh Trent Uncovers The Importance Of Embarking Upon A Rite Of Passage   [00:00] A Free Wellness Podcast For Your Growth Hey, what's up Podcast world, it's Josh Trent, and this may or may not be the perfect place for you to start. Every Thursday I release a solocast, where I share my mental musings, my pontifications, and my passions about something inside of our wellness pentagon, the mental physical, emotional, spiritual, and financial ways of being, tools, and resources that can actually help us move the needle on the ground here with us in the 3-D planet earth. There's a lot of content on the Internet and here on Spotify and Apple that really commoditizes spirituality, but it is my promise to deliver to you today zero appropriation or commoditization and 100% value when it comes to how to identify if you yourself or someone in your life is in need of a rite of passage, what the significance in the meaning of a rite of passage is for both men and women, and lastly, what your ancestors are trying to tell you sometimes with a whisper, and sometimes with a sledgehammer in the stages of your life.   [02:18] Traditional Rite Of Passage So let's begin. What exactly is a rite of passage and why is it important for you to know? “The critical problems of becoming male and female, relations within the family, and passing into old age, are directly related to the devices which the society offers the individual to help him achieve the new adjustment.” - Arnold Van Gennep, The Rites of Passage, 1908. Throughout human history, rites of passage have functioned as a tool of maturation for individual renewal and cultural cohesion. To contrast, it is the modernity of western society that provides little to no structure whatsoever for transitioning from one life phase to the next. As a result, without access to solid rituals, young people are desolate, lost, and confused about how to move in a conscious and confident way into the responsibility of being an adult. A right of passage is characterized by three distinct phases that follow Joseph Campbell is hero's journey. The first is separation, where you leave the familiar the next is transition or initiation, which is a time of testing learning and uncomfortable growth, and lastly, the return, which is the incorporation and integration of lessons learned to share with family, friends, and community. Traditionally, a rite of passage is a ritual event that marks a human's transition between childhood and adulthood connection to themselves and to a tribe or social group. A few examples of a right of passage could be an African lion hunt, the ancient Spartans, as seen in the film 300, land diving, which is done by the tribes in the Pacific islands, as well as a bullet ant glove of Brazil, where the Amazonian tribes perform an initiation ritual, forcing young men to place their hands into gloves, filled with hundreds and hundreds of bullet ants for 20 times more pain than being stung by a wasp. Another example could be taking a daughter or son to kill their first animal in a sacred way like a deer elk or moose hunt. And lastly, there is in my opinion, nothing more powerful for us here in the United States than a Vision Quest that is inspired by Native American traditions. Which is 10 days long with 3 days upfront of ego shedding, and intention setting, followed by 100+ hours of fasting completely alone in nature with zero distractions, that's right – no Food no Fire no tent no phone no electronics no writing absolutely nothing besides, you, water, and your breath and thoughts.   [05:55] Women's Right Of Passage So now that we have explored the different aspects and definitions of a right of passage, let's talk about how this right of passage applies to women as well. Obviously, there is the beginning of menstruation or in the Mexican culture, they have the Quinceanera, the celebration of a girl's 15th birthday, marking her passage from girlhood to womanhood. But how often do mothers give that to daughters in the western Caucasian culture? Across the world, the feminine traditions of separation, initiation, and return, have been replaced with magazines and social media, and the comparison of young girls' bodies to movie stars. Our traditions and rituals for women have been replaced with comparison and shame by the mass media, so that women can be monetized and shamed about the way their body looks or if they actually want to be a mother. You'll definitely want to check out JoshTrent.com/494 for our episode with Sal Di Stefano from Mind Pump for a deeper dive into this exact topic.   [07:38] Are You In Need Of A Rite Of Passage? So, how to identify if you yourself, or someone in your life is in need of a rite of passage? Here are the behaviors to look out for in young men, and unfortunately, even older men who themselves were never taught by their fathers or tribe how to go through a heroes journey of rite of passage: They exhibit a "high chair tyrant" archetype, where nothing could be delivered to them, fast enough, or get enough. You'll know these people when they hide behind a cloak of perfection, and their demands on others are articulated with intensity and anger. Next is that they seem lost in their career or purpose, easily switching from one thing to the next, and never staying still for too long. Their lives are filled with instant gratification, and as soon as things get challenging, they quit or turn the cheek the other way. They have no sense of honor for themselves, they suffer from low self-worth or even self-hatred. They long for positive male figure role models, or female, figure role models, and they project their mother or father wounding onto these role models, unconsciously. Lastly, a symptom of a human being in need of a right of passage is a deep well of hurt in their soul, and the longing for connection to a higher power, to the creator.   [09:59] Native Americans And Their Right Of Passage Traditions Now that you know the symptoms and the definition in regards to the right of passage, what is the solution, how does a human being take action, and place themself in the fire for a coming-of-age tradition otherwise known as a right of passage? Well, first, you must listen to what your ancestors are trying to tell you. For thousands of years, our ancestors have left written, artistic, and even in the past hundreds of years, music and recorded voices that all point towards the clues of how to live life well. But living life well when you are a child, it's different than living life well, when you are an adolescent, teenager, young adult, adult, middle age, elder, and senior. All of these life phases have unique and potent lessons of growth and wisdom if a human being is following the map of how to absorb integrate, and embody the wisdom that our ancestors are sharing with us. Across the world, there are many many clues that our ancestors have given us, but just for simplicity's sake, I will focus on the wisdom of the Native American elders, as an example of what our ancestors are trying to tell us... As I mentioned before a vision quest is a right of passage in some Native American cultures. It is typically only done by young males entering adulthood, but we have seen a resurgence because of the atrophy of young women's traditions around entering womanhood, there are many women who embark on Vision Quest as well. Here are the clues, the lessons, and what our ancestors are, trying to tell us spoken through the four Native American values Harmony with nature, the endurance of suffering, respect and non-interference towards others, and a strong belief that man is inherently good and should be respected for his decisions. Native American values lean toward a cosmic identity, a harmony of the individual with the tribe, the tribe with the land, and the land with the spirit of the universe. Central to this quest for harmony is a sense of constancy – the timelessness and predictability of nature as the foundation of existence. This cycle symbolizes eternity- one reality, and it transcends everything in its absoluteness, giving respect to everything. So these whispers, and sometimes the sledgehammers that come, not just from the Native American values, but also from the European, and basically in every continent of the world, the values of our ancestors are always around us if we can be still enough to hear them. Here are some signs that it is time for you, yourself, or someone you know to embark upon a rite of passage, whether they are 13, 15, 55, or 65 there is never a wrong time to embark upon a right of passage. If you cannot remember the last time, you spent time by yourself, or time by yourself in nature, and even the thought of you, being in nature, makes you feel uncomfortable, or brings up fear, it is time for your rite of passage. When you hear the word family, you get uncomfortable or you have a view of what a family actually is, or when you do your emotional inventory process if the sound of the word family makes you angry or sad, it is time to do a rite of passage. If you only are working for retirement, and the thought of working for a purpose is completely foreign to you, it is time to do it right of passage. If you are a hard follower of rules, and you never push your edge, and always be a good little boy, or a good little girl, if you have no idea about the thrill of breaking rules, or the thought of breaking rules, or even questioning authority, scares you, it is time to embark upon a right of passage. And lastly, if you are focused on the youth and you compare yourself to how life was 10, 20, 30, 40, or 50 years ago if you find yourself melancholy and dwelling on the past on a regular basis, and you were unhappy with your present moment and you just can't seem to snap yourself out of depression, or anxiety, it is absolutely 100% time to embark upon a right of passage.   [15:22] A Message To Your Subconscious Mind My intention with this solocast was to speak to a deep place in your heart to talk to your subconscious mind to connect with a part of your soul that I have been disconnected myself from many times in life. But right at this moment I can share with you that my heart and your heart are connected, the fact that you are here, listening to me, we are connected, the fact that anything I'm saying is touching your heart, is making you feel emotions, welling up energy inside of you... That is proof that we are connected. I want to inspire you to reach out to me, admin@wellnessforce.com need support in selecting a right of passage or a vision quest I can connect you personally to two guys who have both been on the wellness and wisdom podcast. And if right now you feel is the time that you want to integrate and go deeper and get more information about a right of passage head over to JoshTrent.com/510 and make sure you click on all the resources and books that I have linked in the blog post. Until I see you again next Week. I'm wishing you love and wellness. 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Every Thursday I send out, to my Emil subscribers, short gems of insightful perspectives on how to enjoy relationships with adult children.  I also offer tips to help you view your entire life more optimistically.  On this episode I'm sharing some of my subscribers most popular messages.  If you would like to get on my weekly email list, go to www.bonnielyman.com. If you enjoyed this podcast and want to start finding out how to work with me, go to the following resources:Go to bonnielyman.com to: *Book a 60 minute consult with me;  click HERE*Sign up for my weekly email:  click HERE*Receive my free resource,  Three Steps To Being Yourself In Your Relationships With Adult Children.        NEW RESOURCE!Follow me on IG and FB....@bonnielymancoaching

Hello, This is true. I will not be looking to create a subscription podcast. Every Tuesday will hopefully become a free session. Every Thursday I would also deliver a subscriber's only bit of content. This is still being developed in some ways so please do let me know how this works for you. If you are a Social Enterprise, this is for you. There will also be a good chance to move over to view video interviews and you could also be interviewed. Just let me know! You can also find content here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGvrlg4nQjy5GefpyLdbqgQ https://anchor.fm/teaandtoast https://teaandtoast.org.uk https://twitter.com/teaandtoast --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/teaandtoast/message

Lucy is my guest on the podcast this week sharing her story about moving halfway across the world! Lucy is a nurse who recently moved from Ireland over to Australia to start a new life as she was suffering with her mental health. As a result she developed alopecia & total hair loss which forced her to embrace standing out from the crowd & in her words ‘looking weird' . She picked up sewing as a therapeutic hobby which developed from upcycling vintage clothes into the sustainable brand she has today!   I worked with Lucy 1:1 on her brand as it was going through a rebrand but I know this 1:1 work isn't accessible to everyone when they're just starting out & budget might be tight! You can absorb as much information as possible & learn from my 15 years of industry experience & apply it to your business! Every Thursday I host something called Thursday Therapy & you can ask me anything that's playing on your mind! Plus I host monthly live workshops exclusive to club members, share retail news, industry insights & trend information! If that wasn't enough, for just £10 per month, you also join a cool micro community (away from social media) of other fashion creatives who know exactly what you're going through :) You can join the club in 3 simple steps : 1. Download The Stack World App 2. Create a free profile 3. Search The Fashion Brand Clinic & join!   In this episode we discuss : Lucy's story about coping with alopecia whilst starting a fashion brand How Lucy moved her customer base from her hometown in Ireland to her new home in Australia What it means to create your identity online & how to actually be authentic

This week I had a pinch me moment speaking to the iconic businesswoman Sharmadean Reid! Fun story, when I was working for a start up brand, I actually packaged up a PR gift to send to Sharmadean in the hope that she would wear it (she did of course!) and then fast forward 4 years I'm interviewing her for the podcast & collaborating with her on The Stack World!   The Stack World is for the entrepreneurial community of innovators and changemakers. With five distinct content pillars - BEAUTY / WELLNESS / BUSINESS / CULTURE / SOCIETY, The Stack is about achieving higher ground and higher purpose through knowledge sharing. They're creating spaces for intelligent, ambitious mission driven women who see themselves as infinite learners.   Sharmadean talks us through her career which spans from a brand consultant and fashion stylist for Nike & Asos to launching WAH, a hip hop magazine for girls in 2006 which then evolved into the WAH Nail Salon. She was actually awarded an MBE from HRH Queen in 2015 for services to Beauty and Women!   Just before Christmas, I received a message from Rhea (actually a previous guest on the podcast!) who now works at The Stack World telling me she had an exciting opportunity for me & it was to create a membership club in collaboration with The Stack World for people who are early on in their journey to becoming a fashion brand owner! Sharmadean's values align so closely with my own to help creatives make more money so it was an immediate YASSSS! The Fashion Brand Clinic is an accessible way to work with me when you're still in the early stages & budget might be tight! You can absorb as much information as possible & learn from my 15 years of industry experience & apply it to your business! Every Thursday I host something called Thursday Therapy & you can ask me anything that's playing on your mind! Plus I host monthly live workshops exclusive to club members, share retail news, industry insights & trend information! If that wasn't enough you also join a cool micro community (away from social media) of other fashion creatives who know exactly what you're going through :) You can join the club in 3 simple steps : 1. Download The Stack World App (link in the show notes) 2. Create a free profile 3. Search The Fashion Brand Clinic & join! In this episode we discuss : Sharmadean's impressive career in beauty, wellness & technology Building The Stack World through the pandemic Finding your place within a competitive industry   LINKS MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE Sharmadean Reid (@sharmadeanreid) • Instagram photos and videos   JOIN are you in the early stages of launching or building your fashion business & looking for some support & guidance? Join The Fashion Brand Clinic here!     LISTEN You can listen by clicking through to Apple Podcast here Remember to hit the subscribe button so you don't miss an episode!   contact me If you'd like to find out more about working together on your brand, click here

Every Thursday I have a conversation with a widow about how they became widowed, how it affected them, their families, their lives... Today I talk with Christine Miura. She and I met through a life and business development class online and I became interested in her ideas about holistic medicine - Ayurveda. During our conversations I discovered she is also a widow and how she used Ayurvedic medicine to help herself heal a she moved through her journey. Christine is a Joyful Living coach, Intuitive and Ayurvedic follower. She has written 2 books and is a public speaker. To learn more about Christine, or to reach out to her you can find her online at: www.facebook.com/christinemiura www.instagram.com/miurachristine Listen to her podcast : Intuition-First by Christine Miura and Heather McKay I hope that you find some wisdom, and perhaps some strength, from her story to help you get through what ever it is that you are struggling with. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/support

Every Thursday I have a conversation with a widow about how they became widowed, how it affected them, their families, their lives... Join my Conversation with Marcia, 1 of 6 children... Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! A school teacher. A mom and Grandmom. A strong and independent women learning to live this new and very strange life on her terms! Each of these amazing people have volunteered to tell their story , the experiences they have had and how they have had to learn to adapt and survive day to day as they go. Each widow will tell us all how they have persevered, managed to get through the rough days, and find themselves again. I hope that you find some wisdom, and perhaps some strength, from them to help you get through what ever it is that you are struggling with. Follow, like and share this podcast ... Follow me on social media and check out my website- where all my passions come together! IG @dawnranae_h FB: @colormeeverthing website: www.colormeeverything.com FB Group: Beautifully Broken with DawnRanae --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/support

Every Thursday I have a conversation with a widow about how they became widowed, how it affected them, their families, their lives... Each widow will tell us all how they have persevered, managed to get through the rough days, and find themselves again. I hope that you find some wisdom, and perhaps some strength, from them to help you get through what ever it is that you are struggling with. Today Nicole tells her story. It is a hard one for us to hear... and even harder for her to tell. In sharing her life experience the hope is that someone else will know that others have lived through this, have found a way to keep moving forward from tragedy and trauma... And hopefully understand that it is possible, and that there are people who are willing to help them.... People like Nicole, like me... healthcare professionals, grief counselors and so many more who know, care and understand. I hope that the experiences shared, and how she has adapted and persevered, along this journey helps you too. Please Follow, Like and Share this podcast ... Follow me on social media and check out my website- where all my passions come together! IG @dawnranae_h FB: @colormeeverthing website: www.colormeeverything.com FB Group: Beautifully Broken with DawnRanae --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/support

Every Thursday I have a conversation with a widow about how they became widowed, how it affected them, their families, their lives... Today I talk to Carla... her story is not unique, many women have had similar experiences... And yet, for each of them, the experiences and how they learn to adapt along this journey are uniquely theirs. Each widow will tell us all how they have persevered, managed to get through the rough days, and find themselves again. I hope that you find some wisdom, and perhaps some strength, from them to help you get through what ever it is that you are struggling with. Please Follow, Like and Share this podcast ... Follow me on social media and check out my website- where all my passions come together! IG @dawnranae_h FB: @colormeeverthing website: www.colormeeverything.com FB Group: Beautifully Broken with DawnRanae --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/support

Every Thursday I have a conversation with a widow about how they became widowed, how it affected them, their families, their lives... Each widow will tell us all how they have persevered, managed to get through the rough days, and find themselves again. Today's conversation is with Gabriela. A woman who found herself suddenly a widow with a 2 month old baby and no idea how she was going to manage. She shares her fears, her grief, her loss in an open and honest discussion. Listen to her story to find out how she found the strength to keep going, even when she had no idea where she was headed. I hope that you find some wisdom, and perhaps some strength, to help you get through what ever it is that you are struggling with. Please Follow, Like and Share this podcast ... Follow me on social media and check out my website- where all my passions come together! IG @dawnranae_h FB: @colormeeverthing website: www.colormeeverything.com FB Group: Beautifully Broken with DawnRanae --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/support

Today we begin the series, Faces of widowhood. Every Thursday I will have a conversation with a widow about how they became widowed, how it affected them, their families, their lives... Today is my story. It is a familiar story for many. The stuff of Hallmark Movies and Danielle Steele books.... but in real life, the happy ending isn't always so easy to find, rainbow not so easy to see... That is why I share my story, and those of others in this series. And they will tell us all how they have persevered, managed to get through the rough days, and find themselves again. I hope that you find some wisdom, and perhaps some strength, from them to help you get through what ever it is that you are struggling with. Please Follow, Like and Share this podcast ... Follow me on social media and check out my website- where all my passions come together! IG @dawnranae_h FB: @colormeeverthing website: www.colormeeverything.com FB Group: Beautifully Broken with DawnRanae --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/beautifullybroken/support

Jack Thursday - Land Investor Dictionary 101 - Equity (LA 1587) Transcript: Steven Butala: Steve and Jill here. Jill DeWit: Hello. Steven Butala: Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I'm Steven Jack Butala ... Jill DeWit: And I'm Jill DeWit, broadcasting from the Valley of the Sun. Steven Butala: Today, Jill and I talk about ... Well, it's Jack Thursday, and it's Land Investor Dictionary 101. This is going to be a thing now. Every Thursday I'm going to talk about helping new people understand the terminology, the basic terminology of land investing. Today is equity. Jill DeWit: Did I hear you say we're making an online version of this, too? Steven Butala: Yeah. So, our team is actually putting together a separate landing page or website with all the terminologies that we talk about here. It's underway. It's not going to happen overnight, certainly, but when we get the dot-com I'll report it. Jill DeWit: Cool. I have to tell you, when I heard about this the other day, I had a few things that I wanted to throw in the dictionary. Steven Butala: Oh, good. Jill DeWit: So I have some of our own terminology that we have created- Steven Butala: Like Jillify it? Jill DeWit: Exactly. I'll tell you right now, I have Jillify that's going to go in there, BaJillian, that's going to go in there. I also told Aaron lickety-split should go in there. Lickety-split, the definition is going to be something like how fast your property should sell. Steven Butala: These are good things. Jill DeWit: Right, you like this? So when you see it, I'm going to put side-hustle in there, and a way overused term, wholesale. Steven Butala: Yeah. What are some good, silly terms that are silly? Jill DeWit: That's a bunch that I just have. Yeah, lickety- Steven Butala: W-2 job, things like that. Jill DeWit: Oh yeah. Steven Butala: 1099 job. Jill DeWit: W-2 job ... How about the 4:00 AM club? Steven Butala: Yeah, like Land Academy stuff. Jill DeWit: So yeah, they're all legitimate definitions. Some we have just made up. Some words and terms we have just made up that you need to know about and we throw around. Like in my world ... I confused you the other day. In our world, you're like, "What does that mean?" Steven Butala: Shotgun closing. Jill DeWit: Oh yeah. Steven Butala: Like shotgun wedding, but shotgun closing. Jill DeWit: We could come up with some good ones that you need to know. We'll give you a chance that you could submit some, too. Like, "I heard you talking about X. What the hell is ... " Steven Butala: Like the haight. Jill DeWit: Oh, the haight. Steven Butala: H-A-I-G-H-T. Jill DeWit: Oh, I've got a whole list here. Steven Butala: There's a whole Land Academy of vocabulary we can cover. Jill DeWit: This is good. This is going to be funny. Steven Butala: Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com community. It's free, and don't forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows that you like. Jill DeWit: Is it first initial, Burton? Steven Butala: Yeah. Jill DeWit: Okay, E. Burton wrote, "Besides the LandTank and Facebook, what are other ways to get deals funded? I'm trying to keep my options open, and be open-minded and creative." Is there more to that? No. Okay, cool. Steven Butala: I'm not aware of Facebook, and LandTank honestly is coming down soon. Here's why: It's never been easier to get a deal funded, ever. I've never seen an environment in my entire career where people are throwing money out ... In a positive way, throwing money in, I should say, to get a good deal done. So if you're brand new and you're good at finding good deals, forget about the money. You're going to find so much money being dumped in your lap, it's silly. Steven Butala: Go to landfunding.com. It's a website we just started. There's all kinds of products for you. If it's really,

Jack Thursday - Land Investor Dictionary 101 - Equity (LA 1587) Transcript: Steven Butala: Steve and Jill here. Jill DeWit: Hello. Steven Butala: Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I'm Steven Jack Butala ... Jill DeWit: And I'm Jill DeWit, broadcasting from the Valley of the Sun. Steven Butala: Today, Jill and I talk about ... Well, it's Jack Thursday, and it's Land Investor Dictionary 101. This is going to be a thing now. Every Thursday I'm going to talk about helping new people understand the terminology, the basic terminology of land investing. Today is equity. Jill DeWit: Did I hear you say we're making an online version of this, too? Steven Butala: Yeah. So, our team is actually putting together a separate landing page or website with all the terminologies that we talk about here. It's underway. It's not going to happen overnight, certainly, but when we get the dot-com I'll report it. Jill DeWit: Cool. I have to tell you, when I heard about this the other day, I had a few things that I wanted to throw in the dictionary. Steven Butala: Oh, good. Jill DeWit: So I have some of our own terminology that we have created- Steven Butala: Like Jillify it? Jill DeWit: Exactly. I'll tell you right now, I have Jillify that's going to go in there, BaJillian, that's going to go in there. I also told Aaron lickety-split should go in there. Lickety-split, the definition is going to be something like how fast your property should sell. Steven Butala: These are good things. Jill DeWit: Right, you like this? So when you see it, I'm going to put side-hustle in there, and a way overused term, wholesale. Steven Butala: Yeah. What are some good, silly terms that are silly? Jill DeWit: That's a bunch that I just have. Yeah, lickety- Steven Butala: W-2 job, things like that. Jill DeWit: Oh yeah. Steven Butala: 1099 job. Jill DeWit: W-2 job ... How about the 4:00 AM club? Steven Butala: Yeah, like Land Academy stuff. Jill DeWit: So yeah, they're all legitimate definitions. Some we have just made up. Some words and terms we have just made up that you need to know about and we throw around. Like in my world ... I confused you the other day. In our world, you're like, "What does that mean?" Steven Butala: Shotgun closing. Jill DeWit: Oh yeah. Steven Butala: Like shotgun wedding, but shotgun closing. Jill DeWit: We could come up with some good ones that you need to know. We'll give you a chance that you could submit some, too. Like, "I heard you talking about X. What the hell is ... " Steven Butala: Like the haight. Jill DeWit: Oh, the haight. Steven Butala: H-A-I-G-H-T. Jill DeWit: Oh, I've got a whole list here. Steven Butala: There's a whole Land Academy of vocabulary we can cover. Jill DeWit: This is good. This is going to be funny. Steven Butala: Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com community. It's free, and don't forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows that you like. Jill DeWit: Is it first initial, Burton? Steven Butala: Yeah. Jill DeWit: Okay, E. Burton wrote, "Besides the LandTank and Facebook, what are other ways to get deals funded? I'm trying to keep my options open, and be open-minded and creative." Is there more to that? No. Okay, cool. Steven Butala: I'm not aware of Facebook, and LandTank honestly is coming down soon. Here's why: It's never been easier to get a deal funded, ever. I've never seen an environment in my entire career where people are throwing money out ... In a positive way, throwing money in, I should say, to get a good deal done. So if you're brand new and you're good at finding good deals, forget about the money. You're going to find so much money being dumped in your lap, it's silly. Steven Butala: Go to landfunding.com. It's a website we just started. There's all kinds of products for you. If it's really,

Every Thursday I will be doing talks on Sports Nutrition

Show note links: Freebies: Grab your FREE ‘Stressed To Success' meditation: https://bit.ly/stressedtosuccess  Book in a discovery call to see how I can help you: https://calendly.com/franexcell/20min Ways to work with me: 1:1 https://www.franexcell.com/private-coaching/ SOS! (Success Over Stress) Group Programme (Coming back in Q4!) Positive Pants Academy Subscription (Join the waitlist https://bit.ly/PPAcademywaitlist ) Products: Grab Your 365 day Gratitude Journal on Amazon:https://bit.ly/365daygratitude  Grab Your Positive Pants Firmly On Notebook:https://bit.ly/positivepantsonbook  Shop printables and meditations: https://www.franexcell.com/shop/  To sign up for The Positive Pants Planner Waitlist: https://bit.ly/pppimwaiting  Contact: Make sure you're following me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/imfranexcell/ and tag me into your key takeaways! Email me at hello@franexcell.com with any questions or take aways! For more, head over to: www.franexcell.com/   How to not stop before you start!   When we have SO many mindset gremlins running wild and having a party in our heads, how do you make sure you don't stop before you start?   Last week the tech gremlins were wreaking HAVOC with me, but it ended up being a really good thing because I got the opportunity to show lots of people that...tech happens! Things can and will go wrong, all the time in your business.  But the thing that stops people is the fear of it happening, without realising they're the ones in control of how they react to it.   Because the ‘thing' happening isn't actually the scary part.   The scary part is what we unconsciously make that mean about us.   That's the scary part of MOST things in business...and in life!   If this happens, then that happens.  How many times have you created a story around something like that?   When you don't have awareness, you can't challenge it.  So it stays.  As a fact.  Running the show!   So here's a few things that happened to me last week.  I must add I'm a complete technophobe.  That's not strictly fair, once I've learned I'm pretty good but the learning piece for me is excruciating and I stay consciously incompetant for far longer than I'd like.  But I'm aware of it.  So now I outsource pretty much all of my tech.  Which makes me very happy indeed!   So...first up, my email system went haywire and wouldn't let me send my Wednesday email to my list.  Every week they get my nuggets of ‘wisdom' into their inboxes and last week...computer literally said NO!   I was trying to create it and it was doing this weird thing where you couldn't type into the body of the email. You also couldn't type into the help chat box.  A nightmare for a technophobe!     I just want you to take a second to think about how you'd feel and what you'd do in that moment.   We're hammered with ‘consistency is key' a lot in the online business world, and to an extent it's true.  But if you miss an email, or you miss an episode, there won't be a revolt!   People might wonder where it is, some people might not notice.  But it DOESN'T mean that everyone is going to unfollow you and you'll be dead to them.   It doesn't mean anything about you.   It doesn't mean this is the end of your business.   It doesn't really mean anything other than you didn't get an email, or an episode, or an instagram post out.   I still don't know if it will let me send an email this week...but really, what can I do?   I can let people know and bring them along the frustrating journey with me.   I can try to see the funny side and let them laugh with me at the ridiculousness of a technophobe not being able to do the most basic of things and send an email.   Sitting there wondering if I'd pressed a button on my laptop, or I'd locked something by accident.     AND, guess what...by talking about it on my stories one of my lovely audience members messaged me and said ‘are you with X CRM software', which I was, and she said ‘I'm in a group and lots of other people are talking about the same thing'!   Cue instant relief.  It wasn't me.  It was a ‘bug in the system' which happens!   I've now joined that helpful group so I can go there next time to see if it's just me.   Don't let something paralyse you, or allow you to make up a negative story in your head that just isn't true.  If something happens, ask yourself, ‘what could I do right now that could help me figure this out?' Tech is SUCH a biggie that holds people back...but if I can do it, you can do it I promise.  Don't let it intimidate you.  There are courses, memberships, communities for all the softwares out there.  There are also usually amazing step by step, click along with me tutorials on youtube.  Just make sure you type in the year so you don't get one that's outdated.   PLUS...you can OUTSOURCE it YEAY!   There is a steep learning curve but you won't stay there forever.   The other tech gremlin I had is one that would have sent the fear of god into many.   Facey B was playing silly beggars while I was live to 1200 people.   And I'm SO glad it happened.   Let me tell you why.   So, I'm the mindset mentor inside Lisa Johnson's One To Many programme.  Every Thursday I put in a post to see what gremlins are bothering people and how I can help.  Then I'm supposed to go live and answer all the questions.   Sounds pretty simple.   It is when Facey B isn't being glitchy.  So there I am mid flow, getting into my vibe and I see all these messages popping up saying the video keeps pausing...uh oh!   It's doing it for some people but not all.   I look at my internet connection, full bars, all good.  So what the fudge is going on?   So I keep chatting, then people say it's all good now, so I continue.     It happens again!    So now I've got two choices.  Totally abandon ship or improvise.   So I stopped the live and said hold fire.  I messaged Lisa and said are you ok if I post a zoom link, she said yes...so that's what I did!   No glitches, no pauses, totally fine.  It's up in the membership area for people to see.   No harm no foul.   It was GREAT that happened because there are SO many people in there who fear tech, who fear things going wrong so they had the opportunity to see exactly how I handled it and that it really wasn't that bad.   That you can laugh about it with the audience together and it can actually create more relatability.   The tech isn't going to be perfect.  Things are going to go wrong. One person said ‘I loved seeing how you handled that because I didn't think ANY of the things I assumed my audience would if it happened to me.' What a gift!   This is also why I encourage you to find safe spaces that you can practice.  And think about what you'd do if the tech doesn't play ball in advance.   So, if you're listening in and feeling like the tech, or things going wrong is holding you back.  Go a little deeper.   What are the assumptions you're projecting onto your audience?    If these glitches were to happen to you, what story are you telling yourself around it and what would happen?   What are you making that mean about your business, and about you?   Sometimes it can be really simple things that are holding us back that if we dig a little deeper we can work around quickly.     Don't keep them in your unconscious mind, get curious so you can challenge them!   I hope if you've been struggling with this at all that it inspires you to take a leap of faith and give it a go.   Fx  

Every Thursday I will be dropping a new podcast talking about mental health

Alex Watson is the co-founder and CEO of http://Gretel.ai (Gretel.ai), a startup that offers APIs for creating anonymized and synthetic datasets. Previously he was the founder of http://Harvest.ai (Harvest.ai), whose product Macie, an analytics platform protecting against data breaches, was acquired by AWS. Learn more about Alex and Gretel AI: http://gretel.ai (http://gretel.ai) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter (https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:15 Introducing Alex Watson 03:45 How Alex was first exposed to programming 05:00 Alex's experience starting Harvest AI, getting acquired by AWS, and integrating their product at massive scale 21:20 How Alex first saw the opportunity for http://Gretel.ai (Gretel.ai) 24:20 The most exciting use-cases for synthetic data 28:55 Theoretical guarantees of anonymized data with differential privacy 36:40 Combining pre-training with synthetic data 38:40 When to anonymize data and when to synthesize it 41:25 How Gretel's synthetic data engine works 44:50 Requirements of a dataset to create a synthetic version 49:25 Augmenting datasets with synthetic examples to address representation bias 52:45 How Alex recommends teams get started with http://Gretel.ai (Gretel.ai) 59:00 Expected accuracy loss from training models on synthetic data 01:03:15 Biggest surprises from building http://Gretel.ai (Gretel.ai) 01:05:25 Organizational patterns for protecting sensitive data 01:07:40 Alex's vision for Gretel's data catalog 01:11:15 Rapid fire questions Links: https://gretel.ai/blog (Gretel.ai Blog) https://www.wired.com/2010/03/netflix-cancels-contest/ (NetFlix Cancels Recommendation Contest After Privacy Lawsuit) https://greylock.com/portfolio-news/the-github-of-data/ (Greylock - The Github of Data) https://gretel.ai/blog/improving-massively-imbalanced-datasets-in-machine-learning-with-synthetic-data (Improving massively imbalanced datasets in machine learning with synthetic data) https://gretel.ai/blog/deep-dive-on-generating-synthetic-data-for-healthcare (Deep dive on generating synthetic data for Healthcare) https://medium.com/gretel-ai/synthetic-data-performance-report-e5a3cd6b1e6d (Gretel's New Synthetic Performance Report) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18007564-the-martian (The Martian) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/172832/snow-crash-by-neal-stephenson/ (Snow Crash) https://us.macmillan.com/series/themurderbotdiaries/ (The MurderBot Diaries)

The goal of this channel is to help you relax and maybe get some sleep. Every Thursday I will release a new podcast, reading bedtime stories and children's books from all over the world! If you have any requests, please let me know. I hope you enjoy! Also check my YouTube Channel for more content: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVfMxQDXuF1lzJ7W7ltaoGgPlease remember ASMR is not a medical treatment. My goal is to help you fall asleep and it may make you feel better, but it has not been proven to fix any mental health issues or conditions. If you need help, PLEASE seek a professional. -Mental Health Informationhttps://www.mentalhealth.gov 

Every Thursday I want to offer you a mini-episode where I share content, a poem, quote, or piece created by someone else, that has added value to my life and impacted me in some way, and offer it out to you with hopes that it will speak to your heart too. Today's episode was inspired by being asked to write a creative writing piece to create CONNECTION. So here is what was on my heart, it's called "Remembering Mae"

Radek Osmulski is a fully self-taught machine learning engineer. After getting tired of his corporate job, he taught himself programming and started a new career as a Ruby on Rails developer. He then set out to learn machine learning. Since then, he's been a Fast AI International Fellow, become a Kaggle Master, and is now an AI Data Engineer on the Earth Species Project. Learn more about Radek: https://www.radekosmulski.com (https://www.radekosmulski.com) https://twitter.com/radekosmulski (https://twitter.com/radekosmulski) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://cyou.ai/newsletter (http://cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:15 How Radek got interested in programming and computer science 09:00 How Radek taught himself machine learning 26:40 The skills Radek learned from Fast AI 39:20 Radek's recommendations for people learning ML now 51:30 Why Radek is writing a book 01:01:20 Radek's work at the Earth Species Project 01:10:15 How the ESP collects animal language data 01:21:05 Rapid fire questions Links: https://gumroad.com/l/learn_deep_learning (Radek's Book "Meta-Learning") https://www.coursera.org/learn/machine-learning (Andrew Ng ML Coursera) https://www.fast.ai (Fast AI) https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.06146 (Universal Language Model Fine-tuning for Text Classification) https://www.kdnuggets.com/2018/03/machine-learning-efficiently.html (How to do Machine Learning Efficiently) https://www.npr.org/2020/02/25/809336135/two-heartbeats-a-minute (NPR - Two Heartbeats a Minute) https://www.earthspecies.org/ (Earth Species Project) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5617966-a-guide-to-the-good-life (A Guide to the Good Life) https://store.hbr.org/product/the-origin-of-wealth-evolution-complexity-and-the-radical-remaking-of-economics/777X (The Origin of Wealth) https://maketime.blog (Make Time) https://plumvillage.org/books/you-are-here/ (You Are Here)

Every Thursday I want to offer you a mini-episode where I share content, a poem, quote, or piece created by someone else, that has added value to my life and impacted me in some way, and offer it out to you with hopes that it will speak to your heart too. Today's episode was inspired by Dr. Edith Eger's book book The Gift.

Rodrigo Rivera is a machine learning researcher at the Advanced Data Analytics in Science and Engineering Group at Skoltech and technical director of Samsung Next. He's previously been in data science and research leadership roles at companies all around the world including Rocket Internet and Philip-Morris. Learn more about Rodrigo: https://rodrigo-rivera.com/ (https://rodrigo-rivera.com/) https://twitter.com/rodrigorivr (https://twitter.com/rodrigorivr) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter (https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 03:00 How Rodrigo got started in computer science and started his first company 10:40 Rodrigo's experiences leading data science teams at Rocket Internet and PMI 26:15 Leaving industry to get a PhD in machine learning 28:55 Data science collaboration between business and academia 32:45 Rodrigo's research interest in time series data 39:25 Topological data analysis 45:35 Framing effective research as a startup 48:15 Neural Prophet 01:04:10 The potential future of Julia for numerical computing 01:08:20 Most exciting opportunities for ML in industry 01:15:05 Rodrigo's advice for listeners 01:17:00 Rapid fire questions Links: https://scholar.google.de/citations?user=nQGmpjUAAAAJ&hl=en (Rodrigo's Google Scholar) http://adase.group (Advanced Data Analytics in Science and Engineering Group) http://neuralprophet.com (Neural Prophet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makridakis_Competitions (M-Competitions) https://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/engineering/communications-and-signal-processing/machine-learning-refined-foundations-algorithms-and-applications-2nd-edition?format=HB (Machine Learning Refined) https://cs.nyu.edu/~mohri/mlbook/ (Foundations of Machine Learning) http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~srogers/firstcourseml/ (A First Course in Machine Learning)

Dan Jeffries is the chief technical evangelist at Pachyderm, a leading data science platform. He's a prominent writer and speaker on all things related to the future. He's been in software for over two decades, many of those at Redhat, and is the founder of the AI Infrastructure Alliance and Practical AI Ethics. Learn more about Dan: https://twitter.com/Dan_Jeffries1 (https://twitter.com/Dan_Jeffries1) https://medium.com/@dan.jeffries (https://medium.com/@dan.jeffries) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://cyou.ai/newsletter (http://cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:15 How Dan got started in computer science 06:50 What Dan is most excited about in AI 14:45 Where we are in the adoption curve of ML 20:40 The "Canonical Stack" of ML 32:00 Dan's goal for the AI Infrastructure Alliance 40:55 "Problems that ML startups don't know they're going to have" 49:00 Closed vs open source tools in the Canonical Stack 01:00:05 Building out the "boring" part of the infrastructure to enable exciting applications 01:08:40 Dan's practical approach to AI Ethics 01:23:50 Rapid fire questions Links: https://www.pachyderm.com/ (Pachyderm) https://ai-infrastructure.org/ (AI Infrastructure Alliance) https://practical-ai-ethics.org/ (Practical AI Ethics Alliance) https://towardsdatascience.com/rise-of-the-canonical-stack-in-machine-learning-724e7d2faa75 (Rise of the Canonical Stack in Machine Learning) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_KPNtmc9m8 (Rise of AI - The Age of AI in 2030) https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ (Google Magenta) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y (AlphaGo Documentary) https://www.annieduke.com/books/ (Thinking in Bets) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3872.A_History_of_the_World_in_6_Glasses (A History of the World in 6 Glasses) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/562923/super-thinking-by-gabriel-weinberg-and-lauren-mccann/ (Super-Thinking)

Every Thursday I sit down and channel a group of beings called The Purple Crescent Council. These beings are located in the Andromeda galaxy and are very humorous, supportive, and enlightening. My dear friend Jen Kelchner helps moderate and keep me in line as I channel and I definitely have a glass of wine in my hand. Enjoy this latest installment, where we chat about ascension, shifting timelines, and more. We'd love for you to join us live next time! Find out more here: https://linktr.ee/sarahamala

Every Thursday I want to offer you a mini-episode where I share content, a poem, quote, or piece created by someone else, that has added value to my life and impacted me in some way, and offer it out to you with hopes that it will speak to your heart too. Today's episode was inspired again by a piece by Danna Faulds called "Let It Go."

Confused about the US labour market numbers? You should be. Every Thursday I track the US jobless insurance claims - initial claims and continuing claims. Historically these have been pretty useful. But these are strange days for the indicator. Take this week's numbers: initial jobless claims fell 42k to just 712k, and continuing claims fell 193k to 4.144mn. That sounds pretty good. But look down at the bottom of the report and you'll find a quite different set of numbers. The total number of people claiming benefits jumped 2.087mn on the week to reach a staggering 20.116mn. This time last year it was 2.137mn. And whilst the total number of claimants fell fairly consistently until the end of October, they've since stabilized, and since January they've been quietly and gently rising. What's did the damage this week is Pandemic Unemployment Assistance, which jumped 1.058mn on the week to 8.387m, and Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation rose 986k on the week to 5.455mn. Since the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance and Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation numbers are more than three times as many as those formally claiming unemployment benefit, we need to know what's happening. Which is what today's edition looks at.

Willem Pienaar is the co-creator of Feast, the leading open source feature store, which he leads the development of as a tech lead at Tecton. Previously, he led the ML platform team at Gojek, a super-app in Southeast Asia. Learn more: https://twitter.com/willpienaar (https://twitter.com/willpienaar) https://feast.dev/ (https://feast.dev/) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter (https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:15 How Willem got started in computer science 03:40 Paying for college by starting an ISP 05:25 Willem's experience creating Gojek's ML platform 21:45 Issues faced that led to the creation of Feast 26:45 Lessons learned building Feast 33:45 Integrating Feast with data quality monitoring tools 40:10 What it looks like for a team to adopt Feast 44:20 Feast's current integrations and future roadmap 46:05 How a data scientist would use Feast when creating a model 49:40 How the feature store pattern handles DAGs of models 52:00 Priorities for a startup's data infrastructure 55:00 Integrating with Amundsen, Lyft's data catalog 57:15 The evolution of data and MLOps tool standards for interoperability 01:01:35 Other tools in the modern data stack 01:04:30 The interplay between open and closed source offerings Links: https://github.com/feast-dev/feast (Feast's Github) https://blog.gojekengineering.com/data-science/home (Gojek Data Science Blog) https://www.getdbt.com/ (Data Build Tool (DBT)) https://www.tensorflow.org/tfx/data_validation/get_started (Tensorflow Data Validation (TFDV)) https://feast.dev/post/a-state-of-feast/ (A State of Feast) https://cloud.google.com/bigquery (Google BigQuery) https://www.amundsen.io/ (Lyft Amundsen) https://www.cortex.dev/ (Cortex) https://www.kubeflow.org/ (Kubeflow) https://mlflow.org/ (MLFlow)

Every Thursday I want to offer you a mini-episode where I share content, a poem, quote, or piece created by someone else, that has added value to my life and impacted me in some way, and offer it out to you with hopes that it will speak to your heart too. Today's episode was inspired by a piece by Danna Faulds called "Who You Are"

Benedikt Koller is a self-professed "Ops guy", having spent over 12 years working in roles such as DevOps engineer, platform engineer, and infrastructure tech lead at companies like Stylight and Talentry in addition to his own consultancy KEMB. He's recently dove head first into the world of ML, where he hopes to bring his extensive ops knowledge into the field as the co-founder of Maiot, the company behind ZenML, an open source MLOps framework. Learn more: https://zenml.io/ (https://zenml.io/) https://maiot.io/ (https://maiot.io/) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter (https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:15 Introducing Benedikt Koller 05:30 What the "DevOps revolution" was 10:10 Bringing good Ops practices into ML projects 30:50 Pivoting from vehicle predictive analytics to open source ML tooling 34:35 Design decisions made in ZenML 39:20 Most common problems faced by applied ML teams 49:00 The importance of separating configurations from code 55:25 Resources Ben recommends for learning Ops 57:30 What to monitor in an ML pipelines 01:00:45 Why you should run experiments in automated pipelines 01:08:20 The essential components of an MLOps stack 01:10:25 Building an open source business and what's next for ZenML 01:20:20 Rapid fire questions Links: https://github.com/maiot-io/zenml (ZenML's GitHub) https://blog.maiot.io/ (Maiot Blog) https://12factor.net/ (The Twelve Factor App) https://blog.maiot.io/12-factors-of-ml-in-production/ (12 Factors of reproducible Machine Learning in production) https://www.seldon.io/ (Seldon) https://www.pachyderm.com/ (Pachyderm) https://www.kubeflow.org/ (KubeFlow) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566988/something-deeply-hidden-by-sean-carroll/ (Something Deeply Hidden) https://www.goodreads.com/series/56399-the-expanse (The Expanse Series) https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765382030 (The Three Body Problem) https://echelonfront.com/extreme-ownership/ (Extreme Ownership)

Every Thursday I want to offer you a mini-episode where I share content, a poem, quote, or piece created by someone else, that has added value to my life and impacted me in some way, and offer it out to you with hopes that it will speak to your heart too. Today's episode was inspired by a piece by Adrian Michael Green called "you don't belong in a cage."

Josh Albrecht is the co-founder and CTO of Generally Intelligent, an independent research lab investigating the fundamentals of learning across humans and machines. Previously, he was the lead data architect at Addepar, CTO of CloudFab, and CTO of Sourceress, which Generally Intelligent is a pivot from. Learn more about Josh: http://joshalbrecht.com/ (http://joshalbrecht.com/) http://generallyintelligent.ai/ (http://generallyintelligent.ai/) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter (https://www.cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:15 Introducing Josh Albrecht 03:30 How Josh got started in computer science 06:35 Josh's first two startup attempts 09:15 The tech behind Sourceress, an AI recruiting platform 16:10 Pivoting from Sourceress to Generally Intelligent, an AI research lab 23:50 How Josh defines "general intelligence" 28:35 Why Josh thinks self-supervised learning is the current most promising research area 36:15 Generally Intelligent's immediate research roadmap: BYOL, simulated environments 59:20 How Josh thinks about creating an optimal research environment 01:11:35 The "why" behind starting an independent research lab 01:13:30 AI alignment 01:17:00 Rapid fire questions Links: https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.07733 (Bootstrap your own latent: A new approach to self-supervised Learning) https://generallyintelligent.ai/understanding-self-supervised-contrastive-learning.html (Understanding self-supervised and contrastive learning with "Bootstrap Your Own Latent" (BYOL)) https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.10241 (BYOL works even without batch statistics) https://open.spotify.com/show/1hikWa5LWDQJwXtz5LoeVn (Generally Intelligent Podcast) https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.03896 (Consequences of Misaligned AI) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34466963-why-we-sleep (Why We Sleep) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26312997-peak (Peak)

Every Thursday I want to offer you a mini-episode where I share content, a poem, quote, piece created by someone else, that has added value to my life and impacted me in some way, and offer it out to you with hopes that it will speak to your heart too. Today's episode was inspired by a question Cathy Heller asked us in our Made to Do This course and by an extraordinary poem written by my friend Beth Suter.

Every Thursday I want to offer you a mini-episode where I share content, a poem, quote, piece created by someone else, that has added value to my life and impacted me in some way, and offer it out to you with hopes that it will speak to your heart too. Today's episode was inspired by a piece written by the amazing Adrian Michael Green.

Harikrishna Narayanan is the co-founder of a YC-backed stealth startup. He was previously a Principal Engineer at Yahoo, a Director in Workday's Machine Learning organization, and holds an M.S. from Georgia Tech. Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: https://cyou.ai/newsletter (https://cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.notion.so/charlieyou/Content-Pipeline-af923f8b990646369a85a00a348a1e12 (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:45 How Hari got started in computer science and machine learning 06:00 Making the transition from IC to manager 14:35 What it means to be an effective engineering manager 19:20 Differences in managing machine learning vs traditional software teams 24:30 The importance of explaining complicated topics simply 30:15 How he thinks about hiring for data science and machine learning 36:50 Mistakes Workday made as it adopted machine learning 41:50 Essential skills for machine learning engineers 54:05 Why the future of AI is augmentation, not automation 58:30 His experience so far with YC 01:02:00 Rapid fire questions Links: https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/29/carol-dweck-mindset/ (Growth Mindset) https://fs.blog/2012/04/feynman-technique/ (The Feynman Technique) https://www.radicalcandor.com/ (Radical Candor) https://www.trilliondollarcoach.com/ (Trillion Dollar Coach) https://thewisemangroup.com/books/multipliers/ (Multipliers) https://www.jimcollins.com/article_topics/articles/good-to-great.html#articletop (Good to Great) https://hbr.org/books/watkins (The First 90 Days) https://www.harpercollins.com/products/crossing-the-chasm-3rd-edition-geoffrey-a-moore?variant=32130444066850 (Crossing the Chasm) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_to_One (Zero to One) http://theleanstartup.com/ (The Lean Startup) https://hardthings.bhorowitz.com/ (The Hard Thing About Hard Things) https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens-2/ (Sapiens) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/20549/a-short-history-of-nearly-everything-special-illustrated-edition-by-bill-bryson/ (A Short History of Nearly Everything) https://numenta.com/resources/on-intelligence/ (On Intelligence) https://www.predictionmachines.ai/ (Prediction Machines) https://algorithmstoliveby.com/ (Algorithms to Live By) https://sdv.dev/ (The Synthetic Data Vault)

Learn more about the ML Ops Community: https://mlops.community/ (https://mlops.community/) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: https://cyou.ai/newsletter (https://cyou.ai/newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:45 Intro 04:10 How I got into data science and machine learning 08:25 My experience working as an ML engineer and starting the podcast 12:15 Project management methods for machine learning 20:50 ML job roles are trending towards more specialization 26:15 ML tools enable collaboration between roles and encode best practices 34:00 Data privacy, security, and provenance as first class considerations 39:30 The future of managed ML platforms and cloud providers 49:05 What I've learned about building a career in ML engineering 54:10 Dealing with information overload Links: https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/josh-tobin (Josh Tobin: Research at OpenAI, Full Stack Deep Learning, ML in Production) https://towardsdatascience.com/the-third-wave-data-scientist-1421df7433c9 (The Third Wave Data Scientist) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvAyV8m8ICI (Practical ML Ops // Noah Gift // MLOps Coffee Sessions) https://cyou.ai/podcast/pavle-jeremic/ (Building a Post-Scarcity Future using Machine Learning with Pavle Jeremic (Aether Bio)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu87cHHfOE4 (SRE for ML Infra // Todd Underwood // MLOps Coffee Sessions) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShBod1yXUeg (Luigi Patruno on the ML Ops Community podcast) https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/luigi-patruno (Luigi Patruno: ML in Production, Adding Business Value with Data Science, "Code 2.0")

Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter (http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:50 https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/josh-tobin (Josh Tobin: Research at OpenAI, Full Stack Deep Learning, ML in Production) 21:48 https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/shreya-shankar (Shreya Shankar: Lessons learned after a year of putting ML into production) 34:44 https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/luigi-patruno (Luigi Patruno: ML in Production, Adding Business Value with Data Science, "Code 2.0") 53:28 https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/andreas-jansson (Music Information Retrieval at Spotify and the Future of ML Tooling with Andreas Jansson of Replicate)

Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter (http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/)

Andreas Jansson is the co-founder of Replicate, a version control tool for machine learning. He holds a PhD from City University of London in Music Informatics and was previously a machine learning engineer at Spotify, researching and applying algorithms for music information retrieval. Learn more about Andreas: https://replicate.ai/ (https://replicate.ai/) https://www.linkedin.com/in/janssonandreas/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/janssonandreas/) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter (http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:30 Andreas Jansson 07:30 Overview of music information retrieval (MIR) 13:30 Why use spectrograms and not raw audio? 19:55 The potential for transformers in MIR 22:45 Most exciting applications for ML in MIR 29:20 Challenges in putting ML into production 36:45 What Andreas imagines for the future of ML tools 41:45 Why he's building a tool for ML version control (http://replicate.ai/ (http://replicate.ai/)) 52:55 What Replicate enables via integration or as a platform 01:02:55 Learnings from doing customer discovery for Replicate 01:14:10 "Github for ML models and data" 01:22:30 Rapid fire questions Links: https://deepmind.com/blog/article/wavenet-generative-model-raw-audio (WaveNet: a generative model for raw audio) https://openaccess.city.ac.uk/id/eprint/19289/1/ (Singing Voice Separation with Deep U-Net CNNs) https://openaccess.city.ac.uk/id/eprint/23669/1/ (Joint Singing Voice Separation and F0 Estimation with Deep U-Net Architectures) https://www.arxiv-vanity.com/ (arXiv Vanity) https://replicate.ai/ (Replicate) https://discord.gg/QmzJApGjyE (Replicate's Discord)

Luigi is the director of data science at 2U, where he leads a team in developing ML models and infrastructure to predict student success outcomes. He's also the founder of ML in Production, a blog and newsletter that helps readers build, deploy, and run ML systems. Learn more about Luigi: https://mlinproduction.com/ (https://mlinproduction.com/) https://twitter.com/mlinproduction (https://twitter.com/mlinproduction) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter (http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:45 Luigi Patruno 04:50 How can ML teams be more rigorous in their engineering practices? 10:25 Best practices for monitoring and logging ML systems 18:00 Adding business value with data science 37:10 Most valuable types of tools for ML in production 43:15 What an ideal data pipeline setup looks like 47:50 Unbundling the "Data Scientist" role 50:35 The future of building software: "Code 2.0" 59:45 Most valuable skills for the future 01:10:15 Learnings from writing his blog "ML in Production" 01:15:00 Rapid fire questions Links: https://datacast.simplecast.com/episodes/luigi-patruno (Luigi's interview on Datacast) https://mlinproduction.com/deploying-machine-learning-models/ (Ultimate Guide to Deploying ML Models) https://mlinproduction.com/maximizing-business-impact-with-machine-learning/ (Maximizing Business Impact with Machine Learning) https://mlinproduction.com/newsletter-083/ (Two Types of Companies Using ML) https://hackernoon.com/the-ai-hierarchy-of-needs-18f111fcc007 (The AI Hierarchy of Needs) https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/josh-tobin (Josh Tobin: Research at OpenAI, Full Stack Deep Learning, ML in Production) https://mlinproduction.com/machine-learning-is-forcing-software-development-to-evolve/ (Machine Learning is Forcing Software Development to Evolve) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTvB5xMNfTY (ML Street Talk #29: GPT-3, Prompt Engineering, Trading, AI Alignment, Intelligence) https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/building-machine-learning/9781492045106/ (Building Machine Learning Powered Applications) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/529343/how-to-change-your-mind-by-michael-pollan/ (How to Change Your Mind) https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/ (The War of Art) https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens-2/ (Sapiens)

Shawn Wang formerly worked in finance as a derivatives trader and equity analyst before burning out and pivoting towards tech. He's a prolific blogger who goes under the pseudonym "swyx" and recently published the excellent https://www.learninpublic.org/ (Coding Career Handbook). He's a graduate of Free Code Camp and Full Stack Academy now working at AWS as a Senior Developer Advocate. Learn more about Shawn: https://swyx.io/ (https://swyx.io/) https://www.learninpublic.org/ (https://www.learninpublic.org/) https://twitter.com/swyx (https://twitter.com/swyx) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter (http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:45 swyx is back! 05:25 How his book has been received so far 11:35 Why and how to negotiate your salary 24:10 Getting started in public speaking, giving talks at meetups and conferences 35:45 The role of luck in your career and how to create it 51:15 Biggest is not best, best *for me *****is best 59:20 Why swyx angel-invested in Circle 01:12:00 On Randy Pausch's Time Management lecture 01:18:00 Using open source to accelerate your coding skill 01:20:00 Handling information overload and enhancing retention with note taking 01:27:20 What swyx does in his job as a Developer Advocate and why you should consider non-coding roles 01:37:30 swyx's new podcast Career Chats (https://careerchats.transistor.fm/ (https://careerchats.transistor.fm/)) Links: https://www.mlengineered.com/episode/swyx (swyx's first ML Engineered appearance) https://www.learninpublic.org/ (swyx's book Coding Career Handbook) https://www.swyx.io/create_luck/ (How to Create Luck) https://www.swyx.io/time-management-randy-pausch/ (Notes on Time Management from a Dying Professor) https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com/ (Building a Second Brain) https://simplenote.com/ (SimpleNote) https://careerchats.transistor.fm/ (swyx's new podcast with Randall Kanna "Career Chats")

Yannic Kilcher is PhD candidate at ETH Zurich researching deep learning, structured learning, and optimization for large and high-dimensional data. He produces videos on his enormously popular Youtube channel breaking down recent ML papers. Follow Yannic on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ykilcher (https://twitter.com/ykilcher) Check out Yannic's excellent Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZHmQk67mSJgfCCTn7xBfew (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZHmQk67mSJgfCCTn7xBfew) Listen to the ML Street Talk podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/machine-learning-street-talk/id1510472996 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/machine-learning-street-talk/id1510472996) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter (http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:40 Yannic Kilcher 07:05 Research for his PhD thesis and plans for the future 12:05 How he produces videos for his enormously popular Youtube channel 21:50 Yannic's research process: choosing what to read and how he reads for understanding 27:30 Why ML conference peer review is broken and what a better solution looks like 45:20 On the field's obsession with state of the art 48:30 Is deep learning is the future of AI? Is attention all you need? 56:10 Is AI overhyped right now? 01:01:00 Community Questions 01:13:30 Yannic flips the script and asks me about what I do 01:25:30 Rapid fire questions Links: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZHmQk67mSJgfCCTn7xBfew (Yannic's amazing Youtube Channel) https://www.notion.so/Yannic-Kilcher-e93c81f81100464399e173867815e380 (Yannic's Google Scholar) https://discord.gg/4H8xxDF (Yannic's Community Discord Channel) On the Measure of Intelligence: https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.01547 (arXiv paper) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_qGrmD6iQY (Yannic's video series) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uumd2zOOz60 (How I Read a Paper: Facebook's DETR (Video Tutorial)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrdevFK_am4 (An Image is Worth 16x16 Words: Transformers for Image Recognition at Scale (Paper Explained)) https://fs.blog/2014/09/peter-thiel-zero-to-one/ (Zero to One) https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/104/1049544/the-gulag-archipelago/9781784871512.html (The Gulag Archipelago)

Zak Slayback is a principal at 1517 Fund, a venture capital fund that prioritizes working with dropouts. He wrote the excellent book "How to Get Ahead", one of my most recommended books on careers, and runs Get Ahead Labs where he teaches how to write outstanding cold emails. Learn more about Zak: https://zakslayback.com/ (https://zakslayback.com/) https://www.1517fund.com/ (https://www.1517fund.com/) Every Thursday I send out the most useful things I've learned, curated specifically for the busy machine learning engineer. Sign up here: http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter (http://bitly.com/mle-newsletter) Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI (https://twitter.com/CharlieYouAI) Subscribe to ML Engineered: https://mlengineered.com/listen (https://mlengineered.com/listen) Comments? Questions? Submit them here: http://bit.ly/mle-survey (http://bit.ly/mle-survey) Take the Giving What We Can Pledge: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ (https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/) Timestamps: 02:35 Zak Slayback 04:45 Using opportunity cost, signaling theory, and incentives to accelerate your career (https://zakslayback.com/frameworks-success-opportunity-cost/ (https://zakslayback.com/frameworks-success-opportunity-cost/)) 14:35 How to set career goals (https://zakslayback.com/ambition-mapping/ (https://zakslayback.com/ambition-mapping/)) 20:15 Rene Girard and Mimetic Desire 24:30 The difference between a mentor, a coach/consultant, and an advisor (https://zakslayback.com/whats-difference-mentors-advisors-coaches/ (https://zakslayback.com/whats-difference-mentors-advisors-coaches/)) 35:40 Finding a mentor (https://zakslayback.com/professional-mentor-dream-job/ (https://zakslayback.com/professional-mentor-dream-job/)) 44:30 Fighting mental blocks against reaching out to potential mentors 47:30 Why you should start a personal website (https://zakslayback.com/why-start-a-website/ (https://zakslayback.com/why-start-a-website/)) 56:15 What the most important "meta-skills" are and how to stack talents 01:05:35 Most over-looked sections of the book 01:09:00 The future of higher education: the new 95 theses from 1517 Fund (https://medium.com/1517/a-new-95-ec071200d98f (https://medium.com/1517/a-new-95-ec071200d98f)) 01:23:05 What Zak thinks the most exciting trends in technology are 01:35:15 Rapid fire questions Links: https://www.nateliason.com/podcast/zak-slayback (The End of School and Building a Valuable Skillset with Zak Slayback) https://schoolsucksproject.com/deschool-yourself-find-your-focus-zak-slayback/ (Deschool Yourself and Find Your Focus – With Zak Slayback) https://zakslayback.com/book/ (Zak's book - How to Get Ahead (highly recommended!)) https://zakslayback.com/ambition-mapping/ (Ambition Mapping) https://iep.utm.edu/girard/ (Rene Girard and Mimetic Desire) https://commoncog.com/blog/tacit-knowledge-is-a-real-thing/ (Why Tacit Knowledge is More Important Than Deliberate Practice) https://zakslayback.com/professional-mentor-dream-job/ (How to Get Your Dream Job and Mentor in 6 Easy Steps) https://zakslayback.com/whats-difference-mentors-advisors-coaches/ (What's The Difference Between Mentors, Advisors, and Coaches?) https://zakslayback.com/keynote-video-get-ahead-nothing-offer/ (How to Get Ahead When You Have Nothing to Offer) https://zakslayback.com/why-start-a-website/ (“Why Should I Start a Website?”) https://zakslayback.com/frameworks-success-opportunity-cost/ (Frameworks for Making Better Decisions: Opportunity Cost) https://www.amazon.com/How-Fail-Almost-Everything-Still-ebook/dp/B00COOFBA4 (How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big) https://medium.com/1517/a-new-95-ec071200d98f (The New 95 Theses) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/176227/antifragile-by-nassim-nicholas-taleb/ (Antifragile)

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In today's episode, we help Brian figure out if his business idea will make money online. FULL TRANSCRIPT Jocelyn: Hey y'all, on today's podcast we help Brian figure out if his business idea will make money online. Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast where life always comes before work. We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family that figured out how to make our entire living online. Now we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? All right, let's get started. Shane: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. It is great to be back with you again today. Super excited to talk to another member of the Flip Your Life community. You'll have to bear with us. Jocelyn and I are just getting back from a conference, and both of our voices are a little shot. We're still a little jet lagged, but that's not going to hold us back from helping today's Flip Your Life community member, Brian Kelley. Brian, we're tired, but welcome to the show. Brian: Thank you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Shane: And Brian's on the road too. He's on the road too. Brian: I absolutely am, yup. Shane: He's in Chicago at a conference, so he might be a little tired too. We're going to go through this now. We're going to fight through it together. How's that? Brian: That sounds great. Jocelyn: We're excited to talk to you today, Brian. You are coming to our event, which is coming up very, very soon so that is super exciting. And I know that you have been taking a lot of action lately which is how you got on the show today, so congratulations for that. And we can't wait to hear a little bit more about it, but before we get there let's hear about you and your background. Brian: All right. I work in restaurants. I've been in the restaurant industry for about 25 years, and I actually love it. I love my job. I'm married with two kids, and the issue I tend to run into is that I'm concerned about our financial future. I like what I do, but both of our kids have special needs, and it requires extra planning for the future. I don't think that there's a way for me to get my family where we ultimately need to be at retirement with just our incomes. So I'm looking to supplement it with something online. Brian: And then the other reason that I've been pursuing it is just because I think it's a lot of fun. I've listened to your Podcast for a long time now, and I've actually been a member for a year. Everything that I learn that's new and sitting down and actually creating a website and stuff is really intriguing to me. I find it exciting, and I like it, so that's kind of why I chose this path. I'm just looking for any bit of success at this point. I think I've done a lot of the base level stuff. I'm up and rolling, and I'm just trying to get that first dollar made. Shane: Dude, I get it, man. I sat there for months and months waiting for any amount of money to flow into my pocket. And what's crazy is we ask our guests on the show, we look for people in the forums who are taking action, filling out success stories, helping other people, and you have just had this flurry of activity. You've been taking all the courses, talking in the forums, coming to the live event in September, and all of this stuff lately. And that's kind of how we were like, "Whoa, what is this guy doing? He is doing everything. We've got to get him on the show, we've got to help him because we really want to reward action takers in the community." What caused this flurry of activity. You said you've been in the community for a year now. What's happened lately or changed or how'd you [inaudible 00:03:42] to get moving forward in your business? Brian: It was two things. It was, one, probably first and foremost, a new idea for a website. And secondly was I just got really angry that I hadn't finished my last idea, that I hadn't succeeded with it. I got mad and determined because of that. So I just committed and said I was starting again and going to try to do it again. Shane: And are you looking to create a full time income right now or is it more like a side hustle like you love your job? Are you looking to create something on the side that's more like, "Hey, now I can make a lot more money and still do this job that I love, and then maybe someday I can use it to get some time freedom back?" What's the ultimate goal right now? Brian: The ultimate goal is to create a full online business. Shane: Right, right, right. Brian: [inaudible 00:04:39] I want now like I really meant it when I said I think this stuff is really fun, and I'm extremely dedicated to it. I don't have to have ... I'm not beating down the door to escape my job. I love it. I love the people I work with. It's not an urgent need, but there is that need. It has to happen over the next 10 to 20 years for sure. Shane: For sure, yeah. Recently I met this guy named Mark Mason. He has a Podcast called Late Night Internet Marketing, and his story reminds me of yours a lot. He was like, "I love my job. I've got a great job. It fulfills me. I love the people I work with. But I like other things too," is what he said. And he's like, "And of course, if anything ever happened I've got this other thing. It's sitting there waiting for me. I've got choices in my life." And that's what online business can do for you. It gives you choices, and it gives you exactly what you need in the moment. Some people may love their job and just want some extra money or some people may love their job, but they're not quite sure how it could handle a recession, so they want to have something in their back pocket to do that. And some people are like, "Man, I love my job right now, but I'm smart enough to look into the future and see I'm going to need something different later," right? Brian: Yes. Shane: All of us should be doing that. Even in our online business right now we do that a lot. We look into the future and be like, "What is our business going to look like 10 years from now? What does it need to look like based on our needs, our kids' needs, our future needs as we get older or whatever?" And we have to think about those things, and it's really cool that you're seeing the flexibility here of, "Hey, let's not get desperate. Let's not get crazy. Let's just build something cool and have fun with it, and it will be there for me if I need it and my kids need it. Brian: Yes. Jocelyn: All right. So you like your job now, but you want some options as far as making extra income, which I think is a great idea. I actually used to work in the restaurant industry too years ago. I don't know if you've ever listened to our Podcast where I talk about I used to work for a commercial dish machine manufacturer. Shane: She puts your dishwasher in the back room is what she did for them. Brian: Right. I heard you say that on the Podcast. I think about it every day when I walk by a dishwasher]. Jocelyn: Yeah. Shane: That's hilarious. You might be the only person that sees a dishwasher and thinks- Brian: I know people who sell this equipment. That's right. Jocelyn: So I actually didn't do a lot of end user work. It was mostly to manufacturers' representatives and that type of thing. But anyway, so yeah I know about the restaurant industry. I've been to many trade shows and all that kind of thing, so I know a lot about restaurant stuff. Anyway, I love that you are trying to branch out and do something different. Let's talk a little bit about that. What have you tried before, and what are you doing now? Brian: Okay. As far as what I've tried before there's probably a list of five or six, maybe more, things going back 10 years all the way starting with Etsy and just trying to make products for Etsy. I looked into doing drop ship stuff for a little while and decided that totally wasn't for me. Most recently when I joined the community I had an idea for online fishing tournaments. I thought it would be really fun to do online fishing tournaments. I have a lot of friends and family that are competitive at fishing, and I thought it was going to be a great idea. The issue I ran into was two-fold. One, it really wasn't ... What I had created wasn't conducive as it was, so the membership model and I really wanted to do that, and it required so much involvement that it just was never going to work with my schedule. I didn't have the time to execute the operation, so I kind of let it die, and I got discouraged because that was my favorite idea at the moment. Shane: What is an online fishing tournament? How would that even work? Would I fish at my house and you would fish at your house and we'd take pictures? Jocelyn: No, this is what I think of. Do you remember there used to be the Nintendo Wii that had those little controllers. There was a fishing tournament on there. Shane: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Jocelyn: That's what comes to my mind. Shane: Oh yeah, we would compete on ... What was ... Brian: Actually it was like real fishing, and it's modeled after the capture, photo, release style of fishing, which is what a lot of kayak fishermen do. So instead of wait it's on links, so I built an app and people could just take a photo of the fish they caught on a fish ruler and upload it. And basically it allowed people to compete wherever they were on the same species of fish. Shane: That's actually a really cool idea though. Brian: It is, but the problem is I had to be there to launch the tournaments, and I had to be there to judge the tournaments, so there were specific times where I would have to wake up at like ... Fishermen wake up at, like, four in the morning, right, to launch a tournament. And then I had to judge it, and then there were issues with faking species. Shane: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian: There's some logistics that ... I still have that website. I have not thrown it away. I still have an e-mail list for it. There's a ton of interest in it. I just can't execute that right now. Shane: Interesting. We'll keep that one in your back pocket, okay? Jocelyn: I have never heard of an online fishing tournament. This is a first. Shane: My nephew comes over. We've got this lake behind our house. And he'll just sit here and catch fish for five hours. He's all by himself, but I could picture that being like what if he was virtually with other people fishing at the same time? Brian: And could win money for if he caught a big fish. It makes it a lot of fun. Shane: What a cool idea? That's an amazing idea. What else did you try? Brian: Oh gosh. We were doing ... I was trying to do something connected to restaurants so I modeled a website after some others I had seen that were basically just promoting websites kind of like an affiliate except it was locations and venues would pay a fee to be listed on the website, and the website would market to people that were traveling to the area, give them itineraries, lists to view, things like that. Shane: That sounds cool. What was the holdup there? It's too hard to get every restaurant in the world on it kind of deal or ... Brian: No, it was honestly ethically I didn't want to promote ... I work at a restaurant. I didn't want to promote my competition, and I didn't think that was the right thing to do. And it was honestly that started out as a way for me to gain a marketing strategy for my own restaurant briefly, and I just didn't feel okay doing that. And also there's a reason that ... I'm very experienced in the restaurant industry, but there's a reason that the things that I'm choosing to do are not related to the restaurant, and that is because I don't want burnout. Restaurant hours are long, so if I were to tackle more restaurant stuff after that I just feel like it's restaurant all the time, and that's just too much for me. I think I'd burn out because [inaudible 00:12:11] something new. Shane: For sure. A lot of people come into the community, and one of the things that you hear online a lot is, "Chase your passion and the money will follow." And there is a lot of truth to that, but like Jocelyn and I usually try to start with something you're more familiar with because it's actually a lot easier to create something and make money with something you're trained for or that you know. But if someone doesn't want to do that there's lots of other alternatives. You don't have to do that, and I totally get the burnout stuff. Shane: Even as much as I used to love football coaching, like I loved it. I ate it, I breathed it, I slept it. I was always on football coaching. But after you start a community for football coaches, you talk to coaches, you go to work and coach, you come home and coach, and you make playbooks, and you go study playbooks, then you use your playbook on Friday night I really felt the burnout. It didn't matter how much I loved or was passionate about coaching football, at the end of the day you've got to do something else, like you've got to do something else. I can totally get onboard with that. Shane: Tell us about your idea now and how did you switch to that, and when did you start it? Brian: All right. My ideal now is to educate people on credit card points, travel points and miles that you can accumulate spending on credit cards and how to cash them in for maximum value to book free trips and vacations. So my website now is learnthepoints.com, and there is a strategy in there which we teach people so they can earn eight to $10,000 worth of free travel in basically nine months. So that's my goal is to have people that are willing to pay for a monthly membership for even if it's a short term be educated on the best way to accumulate these points and to redeem them for the most value. Shane: And also, too, make sure you're paying off the credit card, staying out of debt? Brian: Yes, 100%. Shane: It's always free money, right? Brian: It's free money. Don't spend anything that you weren't normally going to spend and set up automatic payments, pay everything off every month. I came up with this idea. I got shocked, honestly, just recently. My wife and I do not have any debt. It took us a while to get there. We're very credit card averse. I had just never looked into credit card points before. I had heard people talk about miles and flying and all of that stuff, and I just assumed in my head that these were people that fly all the time, and that's how they do this or they're on these big corporate accounts, so that allows them to rack up all these points. And that's just something that's not for me, and I don't apply for credit cards, so when offers come by I don't look into that stuff. Brian: But what happened was we went through a dark time in December as a family, and when the end of the school year was rolling around and it was summertime was coming up, and we were like, "We need a vacation." All I had set aside for vacation for free money was, like, 500 bucks, which is not bad. We can have fun as a family on 500 bucks, no problem. But all of our other money goes to saving. It all goes to retirement accounts or education accounts or you name it. So we've never really taken a really awesome vacation. Brian: It was kind of out of desperation or just, "You know what? I'm going to look into this and see what it's about," that I discovered what the possibility was with credit card points. And then when I realized all these bonus sign up tricks and stuff I just got obsessed and started doing all this research and figured it out and based on that developed a strategy and a plan that's basically going to get us free vacations for the next three or four years for our family. I was like, "This is awesome. How did I not know about this for so long?" I was like, "Hey wait. This could totally be an online business. Other people need to know about this." So I just popped up a website real quick and then got enthused and jumped back into the trainings. Shane: Wow. Brian, what happened in December? Brian: Unfortunately in December we lost our daughter at birth. She died, and we were really excited. We have two boys that are young. They're four and five. Both of our boys have special needs. They're both autistic, and my oldest son has Down's syndrome. We were really excited not just to have a girl in the family but to have what would be most likely our first typically developing child as well. And it was just we were really excited about it, and there were complications during delivery, and she passed away. So it was a really sad time. There's a lot of grief and anger that comes with that, and it really ... My wife and I both went to counseling. We both got help through our church. We had spent probably three months was just like in shock and recovery. And then the next three months was kind of like just rebuilding your life a little bit and trying to return to normalcy. Brian: But after being through those last six months and dealing with that there's just this need for a break like from all of life almost in a way. We work hard. We have separate schedules. It's crazy at the house because the kids are crazy. So I could see it on my wife's face like we need a vacation. Shane: Like an actual remove from the world like- Brian: Like the community pool is not going to cut it this time. We've got to go. Jocelyn: Absolutely. Shane: How did you explain it to your kids? It would be hard enough explaining it to kids who are developing at normal rate. Was it tough? Brian: It was tough because we did a lot of practicing. We did a lot of therapy going up, so we had a doll that we carried for half a year before the due date where we were training the boys on, "Hey, this is Baby Sister, and this is how you hold Baby Sister." It took us three months before they stopped throwing the doll around. We were practicing and training and getting ready, and we had her room ready of course. We found our own special ways to talk about her with the boys and remember her. I feel like we're in a really healthy place thanks to the involvement of others in the communities that we're in mostly. It's always sad. It's just something that you're never going to forget. You don't move on from it so to speak, but you cope better and better every day. Shane: Yeah. I appreciate you sharing that. I know that's probably really hard to talk about. Jocelyn: That's just heartbreaking. I'm so sorry to hear that. Shane: It is. I'm having trouble even not crying right now, and I stammer over my words for a few minutes. I also want to just kind of highlight that you did recover, and you did move forward, and I love how you harnessed the negative thing to think about something positive like my family needs to more forward. We need to go on a vacation. That's not trivial. That's a thing that's going to help us to take the next step because we have to take the next step. Brian: Right. Shane: And then even to come up with an idea like we have a saying that we always say around our house and around our kids and others is like, "Successful people don't say I can't do that. Successful people say how can I do that?" So you didn't say, "Oh there's only $500 in the bank. I can't go on a vacation." You said, "No, this thing is important for our family. How can we make it happen?" And that's true for life. That's true for online business. That's true for anything like if you're going to be successful you've got to figure out how to do it. So regardless of whatever happens with this online business idea, dude, just the fact that you made that happen, and your family did the thing was totally worth going down that path. Brian: Yeah. Shane: That's a powerful story, man. There's an awesome story in the Bible, I believe it was David's son passed away. I don't want to butcher the Bible, but I'm just going off the cuff here. And he mourned, and then he immediately put on his cloak and got back to work. In the story people were like, "What are you doing?" And he's like, "I have to move forward. I've got other sons. I've got a kingdom I have to do," and I really felt that kind of story coming through when you were telling us that, man. I have no words about something like that, but I am very impressed and inspired by that story you just told me because if that ever were to happen to us I know, "Hey look, Brian got it, he stepped up, we can do this." So anybody else out there listening to this I hope you are really inspired by Brian's story too. Jocelyn: Okay. I am kind of curious, and I'm sure other people are too. So you got this credit card thing going. You started learning about it. And were you able to book something? Brian: We're actually we've racked up a ton of points, and we're saving them. We started kind of at the beginning of the summer, and my wife works for the school district. School's about to start, so we're just deciding what date we're going to book and where we want to go. Shane: That's amazing. Brian: We're kind of lined up and ready. We're all excited now. It's like one of those things where we were really anxious to go anywhere. We would've taken anything, you know what I mean, but now that we've got these points in the bank and we can pretty much go anywhere for free we're like, "Hold up, hold up, let's think about this. Let's pick a really good one." Shane: Right. We get a lot of points too. We're like you though. We're like we hate debt. Credit cards scare us. I pay out credit cards. Any credit card use that we have I pay it off every week, every Thursday. I don't mess around. Every Thursday I sit down. But we use two cards. We have a business card, and we have a personal card. And we put everything on it, like everything. And we pay it off once a week because man those points are like free flights here, free all-inclusive vacation in Cancun. You can just book hotels. Jocelyn: We travel a lot because our daughter's on a travel cheer team, and I got every room last year except for one for free. Shane: Yeah, and that's like nine cheerleading vacations. Nine weekends of the year we're on the road staying two or three nights. And it's just you show up, and you have a room for free. Brian: And what I think is crazy is that there are just so many people that were like me six months ago, had no idea that you could do this. Shane: I didn't know you could do it either because we were Dave Ramsey people too of course. We're like, "Get out of debt. Never use a credit card. Credit cards are evil." And I'm like, "But they're giving you free money. Wait a minute. Let me look at this for a minute." Now, you're not going to get rich off of it, but free money's free money. It doesn't matter how you look at it. Jocelyn: And disclaimer, we do not advocate going into debt to get credit card points. Shane: No, don't go into $10,000 in debt to get $5,000 in credit card points. That doesn't make sense. You're losing money there y'all. Tell us a little bit more about that. Brian: What I try to get people to understand, and I don't know if my message is really good. I'm still trying to perfect it to get it quick because there's a lot of pushback. People just don't know that you can do it. There are credit card fees on some of these cards, but essentially I had $500 in the bank. For $500 you can afford the credit card fees on eight different cards at one time. And if you were to do that you'd have somewhere between, depending on your spending, $8,000 and $12,000 worth of free travel. So it's not that it's- Shane: Right, you're spending 500 for 8,000 basically. Brian: Yeah. If you were going to spend 500 you have two options. You can either spend $500 on your vacation or you can spend $500 on the credit card fees and take a $10,000 vacation. Shane: Yeah, that's incredible. We actually know a guy that does something similar to this. He was a member of the Flip Your Life community. His name's Brad Barrett. Have you ever heard of Brad Barrett? Brian: I did. I started researching everybody. I found his ... He has a Facebook group and a training that he does. And it's awesome. Facebook group is an awesome community. He built something really great there, and his training is very to the point and succinct, and it's good info to. So I really liked looking at his stuff. Shane: Yeah. And he was an accountant, and he really did want out of his job. He just went all in. But he focused. He only went like ... It was to go to Disney. It was straight up to go to Disney. That's how he taught it. And we've met other people who do successfully do this. And I was just at a conference this weekend, and someone was telling me like, "You know, I feel like I've got to invent a brand new thing. I've got to go the blue ocean." You guys hear that blue ocean, red ocean stuff? Brian: Right. Shane: And I looked at him. I said, "No, that's not what you do." You don't have to bake a new pie. You don't have to invent a new recipe. You've got to look around and find a pie, and you just want a slice of that. So that's why we always really encourage people like if you see someone else doing something similar to you that's not bad. That's good. That means that they've figured out how to make money at it, and there's 4 billion people connected to the internet. I promise you they're not selling to all 4 billion people. You just need some of the other people that are interested in that space. It's like abundance mentality. There's more than enough customers out there. You don't have to invent the better mousetrap. You just need to find people that need a mousetrap and sell them one. You're on the right path, and there's definitely something to this. So what's holding you back right now? Is there a mindset issue or an obstacle from doing this? Brian: Okay, so I went back and I watched the Vetting Your Idea video. So I had jumped into this full force before watching that video. I wish I would've watched it first. Shane: Wait a minute. So you're saying you should do the Flip Your Life blueprint in order? Brian: Shane, I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to take this opportunity to tell people to follow the plan the right way. Shane: Right. People jump in all the time, and they're like, "I watched video 12, and it was awesome." And I'm like, "Did you watch one through 11 because they're important?" You've got to do it in order. The Vetting Your Idea course, you know what's funny about that course in particular. I laugh because I'm saying watch it in order. When we made the blueprint, when we created the blueprint that course didn't used to be in there. Yeah, because we were so caught up in helping people find their idea and get started. I kind of looked at it, and I was like, "I go through the process whenever we have a new business and I'm like is someone else doing this? How do I find out if it's making money online?" I have a process that I check things, and I realized we were ... Because a lot of times people get held back, and I didn't want to put too much information in front of someone like I just wanted you to get your idea and start because that's where the real magic is when you start. Shane: But then I thought, "Wow, there's really an easy way to tell if people are making money on this, and I just need to show that to them." So we put that course back in later. I actually made that course after the original blueprint was created so that people could properly vet that, yes, this is a real idea. People are definitely making money online, and I can check it empirically. I can go and say, "That is a 100% truth. This can make money online. I just have to do it." And that's kind of probably what you saw when you watched that with the idea course. Brian: Yeah 100%. So I started looking, and what I found a lot of regarding credit card points and miles there's a ton of people who are offering free courses, and they are using affiliate links for their credit card sign-ups. Shane: Yes 100%. Brian: That is what most, like 95% of what's out there is affiliates for the credit cards, which I don't think there's anything wrong with necessarily although I have started my website and really pushed that I am not an affiliate for the credit cards. Shane: Great differentiator. That makes you different. Brian: Yes. I've also noticed affiliates have different promotions and all that stuff, and sometimes teaching others isn't true. It's just not the best version of the information because they're promoting a specific credit card before another one, so I really wanted to focus on ... yeah. I really want to focus on what's going to be my users, my guests on my site, and what's going to get them the most bang for the buck the right way to do it. I'd rather not get involved with affiliates at all. I'd rather just tell them the truth like if you want to get the most money this is how you get the most money. Shane: So one sticking point is like you're kind of ... You said a lot of other people have went down the road because if I can get you to sign up for the credit card I might get a $100 fee. The bad part about that strategy is you're really relying on a lot of traffic. You've got to have a lot of traffic coming in to make that work because you're not getting any recurring off these credit card points that you get people to sign up for. It's just you get 100 bucks, you move on. You know what I mean? So you almost have to get them to sign up for five at once just to make a good chunk of change out of the beginning. Are you concerned that nobody will pay for it because the other ... Brian: Right. I was concerned that nobody would do a membership for the information. There is a lot of free information out there. It's just that my information's better than the free information that's out there, but I need to be able to convince people that it's worth whatever I'm charging right now I set it up to charge $25 a month. Shane: Right. Brian: I did find at least one site that is doing a membership model, and that gave me hope, but it was hard to find. Shane: To be fair the internet's a big place. You know what I mean? So there's probably other people out there doing it to. If you found one there's probably more. Brian: Yeah, I would think so. There is another aspect to it. Some people are also doing one-on-one coaching and booking trips for people using their credit card points to get the most value for it. So those are some one-offs that I found. But my biggest concern is that looking for validation that approaching this from the membership model setting up a $25 a month membership to educate people and provide them with free tools and resources is something that somebody will pay for, that it'll work. Shane: I would say they would if you position it correctly, right? Because there's an old saying in copywriting where if you can give people free money they'll buy your product. And this is a free money product. It is. It's like if you get the cards you will get free money. You will get the points. So if you can say, "Hey look, I ..." Telling your story is the most critical part of your marketing because you literally did this. You're like, "Look, I have no debt. I have these cards. I've got three vacations, enough money for three vacations over the next three years. I have $8,000 in credit card points. I spent $500 to do it. I made $7,500." This is true. These are all facts. You can check it. It's 100% real, and it happens when you do it this way. So like that's free money. It really is. It sounds so scammy but it's not. It's free money. It really is free money. Brian: It is, yes. Shane: And you've actually done this. Your story is where you have to start with your marketing to convince people that that's going to happen. Jocelyn: I almost feel like this is one of those situations where it's a side-by-side. And what I mean by that is that you have a course on one side, and you list all the benefits of just doing the DIY course. And then on the other side you have your monthly payment, which is the same price as your course, but it just recurs. And you position that as this is the courses plus support from me as you go through this. Shane: Yeah. So it is kind of two products. The content is isolated, but then there's a way to interact with you like I'm going to help you make purchasing decisions, and I'm going to help you. I'm going to walk with you as you spend the money. We're going to have a ... A buddy of mine does a membership, so listen to what this is. He does this membership where basically it's a writing hour. So twice a week he shows up, he does a quick writing tip, and then basically he has, like, 300 members and they all just show up to write together. That's what they do, but it's accountability. It's to ask a question. It's to just hang out really. There's no relieving content involved in the membership, but people love it because they've got somewhere to go in the moment to either get accountability or ask a question. Shane: So it's like you could have a weekly pay off your credit card party. Hey guys, last week we got our groceries. Hey Jim, what'd you do? Oh man, I bought a subscription to Netflix. Okay, let's pay that off. You could keep people out of debt parties. It's not like you're really even answering questions. It's just you show up, and everybody's accountable to stay out of debt while they're accumulating their points. And then they can ask questions to you like, "Well, I found this other card. Is this a good card Brian?" Yeah it is. That's a good card. You should do this. You should do that. Don't worry. You can trust my advice because I'm not an affiliate for that card. Brian: Exactly. Shane: But you can throw stones at the other people like, "Hey guys, all these other people they're recommending cards that give them the best affiliate payout. Not me. Brian you can trust because I'm here for you." I love the idea that the course is separate or they can work with you for real, work with you. And your whole story then becomes so important because now they trust you to join your membership community. So you're not selling them content anymore. You're not selling them the path anymore. You're really just selling you. You know what I mean? And your experience, your coaching, and your leadership. Brian: If I switch this over and change it so I've got this side-by-side thing going on on the website would you market or promote the course, and then when they get to the landing page they would see the course or the membership option then? Shane: I'm going to give everybody that's listening a tip right now. Nobody cares what's in your course. Nobody cares about the course. All they care about is your story. The only thing I would be telling yours like you need to go on this vacation, and you need to have some pictures of it, and you need to be able to talk about it, and you need to be able to blog about it. And everything happens going forward is I had this horrible experience. I knew my family needed vacation. I found a way. We did it. And now I'm bringing the torch back from Mt. Olympus. This is a heroes journey story if there ever has been one. Jocelyn: I agree. And I don't think that the course material is unimportant per se. Shane: Right. It's not unimportant. It's just not the most important. Jocelyn: But I do feel that the most important things are being able to relate to you, can you solve their problem, and then the course material is way on down the list. Shane: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the second thing. Jocelyn: And I think people get this backwards. People always want to do their sales page look at all these wonderful things that I have in my course or program. And they want to give you the 10-minute rundown of every nut and bolt in their program. People don't care about that. People care about can you solve my problem and do I like you? Shane: What most people remember at any event, like let's say you go to a rock concert, when musicians create their set they really focus on the first song and the last song because that's what you're going to remember. It's like a movie. You remember how a movie started. A lot of stuff happens in the beginning, and we all remember the end. You know what I'm saying? Jocelyn: Right. Shane: It's like Avengers. There's like 18 movies over like 20 years, and pretty much it all boiled down to at the beginning Thanos wanted some rocks, and at the end Iron Man fights him. That's what we all remember in between, right? So that's kind of what you're doing here. It's like, "This is my story. This is real. You can trust that it's real because all these other people are only recommending things that pay them good. I'm not because I'm not an affiliate for any of these people. I'm telling you the truth, and inside my community I'm going to help you do it. Shane: So you can have a general list of things like categorical these are the results you'll get inside. Know the first thing you'll buy. Know the first card to get. Know the order that they're going to get. You're more telling the results, but you're not telling the exact courses and all that stuff. There's no reason to. No one cares. But when they get inside we get into detail. Jocelyn: Okay. Shane: First course, blueprint one, second course, blueprint two, third course, blueprint three. That's when you get really into it. Don't try to sell the content. Like you said the content's free. I hate to tell everybody this. All content's free. Every piece of content that has ever existed inside of any course is somewhere free on the internet. Now, can you find it? Is it hard to find? That's where curation and courses come into play. But it's all free. You've just got to figure out how to make your free stuff look better, and your story is the best way to do that. Brian: Okay, great. Jocelyn: Okay, Brian. I think that we have some good ideas about moving forward as far as your product goes. What else do you need help with right now? Brian: I think I'm up to close to 400 people on my e-mail list. That's mainly coming through Facebook and Facebook ads with my lead magnet. However, I have not converted anybody on my e-mail list into purchasing as of yet. Shane: How often do you e-mail your list? Let me ask you a couple questions here. It's a big list. You should've converted something, so let's figure this out. Brian: Yeah. I have an auto responder set up for the first eight e-mails that follow very closely the e-mails in the blueprint. So those go out, and I follow the same timeline, so it's like a couple immediately and then about a week later and then a couple days later. And then there's one at the end two weeks out that's like, "Hey, I'm not going to send you anymore. You'll just continue to get vacation updates from me basically." And I send out whenever I have time to design a new vacation that somebody can take for free I just e-mail that to my whole list. Shane: So basically your e-mail ... So only your auto responder is what's tried to sell this so far. You've only [crosstalk 00:40:30]. Brian: That's true. That's correct, only my auto responder, yeah. Shane: Okay. What if you sent them a message that said, "Hey, I'm doing a live training this week, and I'm going to show you how to get $8,000 for free?" Brian: I haven't done that yet. Shane: Okay. You've got to add more layers to it. The auto responder is just for picking low hanging fruit, the lowest of the fruit. Actually it's like walking under an apple tree, and the apple has already fell off, and you bend down and pick it up. That's where automation comes in. You're never going to convert more than a single digit percentage off of your e-mail list, right? You have to add live Webinars. You have to add weekly Podcasts or blog posts or something. Shane: I'm also looking at your site here, and it definitely needs a facelift. It's just too plain, and it's also too ... It looks too pie and the sky. For example, let's take you. I'm going to describe your website as I go through here. One, at the top you've got all these credit cards. That's cool. Then it says, "Become a member." You know what I'm saying? It's just like okay that's cool. Then it's like a picture of four probably 18-year-old girls running down a beach. That's not Brian. Brian was a dad who had just lost his daughter and went through a dark time. And the rest of his family needed him to step up and help them climb out of the darkness, right? Brian: Right. Shane: So Brian, with his two children and his wife went forward together. I need to see a family here. That's what I need to see. I don't need to see this. Shane: Then the next one is a guy with like a mini Afro and a surf board. He's like, "Whoa, dude, I'm a cool 18-year-old dude on a beach in Thailand making six bucks a day or whatever." That's not Brian, man, I really came home from work at the restaurant and I was tired, and I knew we needed a vacation. So you're not talking to the other guys out there that are like, "Yo, I'm tired. My family really needs me to step up and figure out a way. I've not been able to afford a vacation in three years. What can I do to help my family get a little break?" You know what I'm saying? Brian: Right. Shane: It's just not resonating. The people who are on your list are just not resonating with what they're seeing and hearing in your marketing. Brian: Ah, that makes sense, okay. Shane: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your story is not being told, and that's why nobody's buying anything from you. We tell some pretty deep stories, and we wrestled with how much of our personal life we always want to share on the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast or when we speak on stage. And 99% of the time it's be an open book because our stories are what really help someone else. And we told our stories this week. We were at FlynnCon, and we spoke with Pat Flynn on stage, and we told the story of Isaac being mistreated in a daycare center. That's a really hard story to tell when you find out someone was literally locking your child into a bathroom to punish them for potty training accidents at three years old it's horrifying to even say that out loud. But that story always makes people realize how important their kids are, how important their time is. They want to get their kids out of daycare centers and home with them. Shane: I have to tell that story because if I don't then I can't relate to someone enough to make them change their life. So your story has to take over this page. Your family has to take over this page. And you have to say to somebody, "If we did it you can do it too," and that'll resonate more as well. And then showing up live not just in their inbox is going to give you a better chance to convert those. Shane: If you could get 50 of those people to come to a Webinar, and you told us your story like the way we even talked about it off air today before the Podcast started people are going to resonate with that because they're going to look at their kids, and they're going to look at their family, and they're going to realize this guy's for real. If he wasn't for real he'd be signing up for all the affiliate things just trying to get my affiliate check, right? But he's telling me the truth, and I need to listen to this guy, and he can help me. Where do I sign up? So if you could just plant some storytelling overtop of all of this, and then do the work. And I know you're going to do the work because you're an action taker, you could turn this thing around. 400 people, man, you've got members. We just have to get the message right to do it. Shane: I'd love to see your e-mails too. We don't have time to go over every e-mail in your auto responder today, but your e-mails should be telling the story. It shouldn't just be here's all the benefits. It's like in 2018 December this happened. It moves into why you went down the path to the credit cards, and that creates trust, and it shows them like, "Hey, this guy figured it out. I can figure it out. Let's do this." Brian: Okay. Yes. Jocelyn: All right Brian, it has been great talking to you today, and I can't wait to see what you do next. Before we go we always ask our guests what is one thing that you plan to take action on based on what we talked about today? Brian: I am going to ... Since I am out of town right now I am going to set up the side-by-side course versus the membership on the website and just get that done quickly. And then when I get back home I'm going to start taking some pictures with my family and redoing my story on the website. Shane: Love it. I love that you're like, "I'm going to take some pictures with my family. We're putting them on there." That's good. And I want to see the website, so make sure you send it to me in the forums or hit me up, and I want to see the link when you redo it because it'll be awesome. Brian: Will do. Shane: Hey Brian, before we go let me ask you a question. What made you come to Flip Your Life Live? Flip Your Life Live happens in Lexington, Kentucky on September 19 through the 21st of 2019. It's our big Flip Your Life Flipped Lifestyle Podcast family reunion where all of our listeners, fans, followers, and members can come together in one place to hang out together, eat together, work together, and really get inspired to do big things for our families. I always love to hear people's stories. Why did you come to Flip Your Life Live? What made you look at it and go, "I got to go. I just got to go to Flip Your Life Live?" Brian: I wanted to dive all in. I didn't want to leave anything on the table. Really I am not afraid of failure. I am really afraid of not trying, not giving it my all. And I just felt like, "Hey, this is something I haven't done, and I can't say that I gave it all I could if I didn't go." Shane: I love that, man. No regrets, right. I'd rather have a life full of failures than a life full of regrets at the end of it. Brian: Also I'm not paying for the flight, so that helps. Shane: Shameless plug for the credit card points. I love it. That's amazing. Jocelyn: Love it. That is awesome. Shane: Listen. If you would like to join us and Brian in Lexington, Kentucky at Flip Your Life Live this year go to flippedlifestyle.com. That's F-L-I-P-P-E-D lifestyle.com/live. We have a few tickets left, but they are almost sold out, and this will be the last big conference Flip Your Life Live that we do for a while. We are not doing the event in 2020, so you can't go all in next year. You might as well go all in with us and Brian this year at Flip Your Life Live. Jocelyn: And who knows, maybe if you join Brian's membership maybe he can get you a free flight too. Shane: That's right. Maybe you can fly there too. Go to flippedlifestyle.com/live. We'd love to see you at our live event. All right guys, that is all the time we have for this week. Thank you so much for listening to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast today. We would love to see you inside of our community as well. Who knows, you may end up right here on the Podcast just like Brian did. So if you'd like to take action today go to flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife and you can check out all of our membership options. Shane: Before we go today we like to close every show with a verse from the Bible. Today's Bible verse comes from 1 Thessalonians 5:16-19. The Bible says, "Be joyful always. Pray continually. Give thanks in all circumstances. This is the will of God for your life." Shane: Until next time, guys, get out there, take action. Do whatever it takes to flip your life. We'll see you then. Jocelyn: Bye. Links and resources mentioned on today's show: Brian's Website Flip Your Life LIVE 2019 Tickets & Registration Information Flip Your Life community PROLIFIC Monthly Enjoy the podcast; we hope it inspires you to explore what's possible for your family! Join the Flip Your Life Community NOW for as little as $19 per month! https://flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife

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