Podcasts about Harlem shake

2013 spielt das Internet auf einmal ein bisschen verrückt: Hunderttausende Menschen laden Videos hoch, in denen sie zu einem wilden Trap-Beat hemmungslos herumzappeln und springen. Der "Harlem Shake" ist geboren – und wird zu einem der prägendsten viralen Phänomene der 2010er-Jahre. Doch wie hat das Ganze eigentlich angefangen? Und steckt hinter dem chaotischen Hype vielleicht mehr, als man auf den ersten Blick vermutet?Unsere wichtigsten Quellen:New York Times – Harlem Shake TimelineFrance 24 – Harlem Shake rocks deeply divided Arab worldLA Times – FAA untersucht Harlem Shake im FlugzeugThe Atlantic – Der „Harlem Shake“-Erfinder verdiente keinen CentUniversity of Missouri – „They're Making Us Look Bad“Vice – Harlem Shake Origin StoryUnsere Clips:Universität Bayreuth shakedDas erste Harlem-Shake-VideoKotzkuchenJoji – Glimpse of UsJoji über den Harlem Shake bei Mass AppealDie Harlem-Shake-Version, die viral gegangen istHarlem Shake im französischen GefängnisDer „originale“ Harlem Shake (Schlepp Films)Héctor El Father – Los TerroristasPlastic Little – Miller TimeFolgt uns auch auf Instagram:

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Follow everyone on social media!Marisha AustinVania DysonEric DizzyEPISODE BREAKDOWN~ [00:00:00] - Dive into Diddy Drama:Kicking things off with a deep dive into some Diddy-level controversy. Yes, the king of Harlem Shake himself. We explore TikTok trends, with a dude yelling, “Stop playing with me!”—probably what Diddy tells himself in the mirror every day. The convo spirals into some serious talk about Hollywood's sketchy underbelly. Morals? Overrated. Apparently, you need to drop them like it's hot if you want to survive the Hollywood jungle.[00:01:30] - Soft Porn or Just Working Out?:Our hosts debate whether workouts count as soft porn. The verdict: it's subjective, y'all. If you're out here flexing your muscles, just know the OnlyFans recruitment team is lurking.[00:02:45] - Parenting Woes:Dads unite! This section features a hilariously relatable rant about parenting, with one host likening part-time fathers to the Army Reserves. If you only see your kids every other weekend, kindly sit this one out—you have no idea what it's like on the parenting frontlines.[00:05:00] - YouTube Stars: The Real Power PlayersEver wonder why your kid loves those annoying YouTubers? It's because they have millions of fans, most of whom are five years old and broke. So, if you're trying to sell merch to toddlers, good luck! They can't even click "subscribe" properly without their parents' accounts.[00:07:00] - Parenting Advice from the Weekend WarriorsBrace yourself for a hilarious roasting of those part-time parents who try to dish out advice. The hosts make it clear: if you're only in "dad mode" every other weekend, your opinion is as valuable as a grocery store flyer. Cue the slow clap for full-time parents who are out here surviving sleepless nights, sick kids, and endless chicken nugget meals.[00:09:00] - Body Image: The Never-Ending StruggleFrom wishing away body dysmorphia to laughing at the fact that loving yourself might involve staring in the mirror chanting “I love you” ten times a day, this segment hits hard. Spoiler: your abs aren't going to appear just because you chant at your reflection.[00:12:00] - Boobs: A Love-Hate RelationshipThe struggle is real—those post-weight loss "gone with the wind" boobs aren't making a comeback. And no, they didn't disappear on vacation; they're just MIA. Turns out, getting your dream body involves some serious sacrifices. RIP to those curves.[00:18:00] - Fat Acceptance: Hard PassA walk down memory lane has the hosts discussing how America has a food problem. Barbecue calories are sneaky—by the time you're on the mac and cheese, you've already consumed enough for a week. The result? Full-bellied naps and plenty of regret.[00:23:00] - Raising Kids Right… Or At Least TryingNo shade, but if you're depending on school to teach your kid everything, you're doing it wrong. One host proudly describes how his three-year-old can already read. Meanwhile, your kid is probably learning more from Roblox than from school. Ouch.[00:28:00] - Meat vs. Plant-Based Diets: The Eternal BattleFeeling sluggish? Blame carbs. Turns out, eating steak makes you feel invincible, but toss in a few carbs, and suddenly you're ready to nap like you just ate Thanksgiving dinner. Plant-based might sound nice, but where's the fun in that?[00:34:00] - Status Symbols: Why We're All BrokeWhy drive a perfectly fine 2004 car when you could compare yourself to people in newer models? The hosts poke fun at how status rules everything, even when the cars are paid off and reliable. Gotta love that subconscious need to impress strangers.[00:43:00] - “Managing Your Pussy” 101No beating around the bush—literally. The hosts get into some serious advice about managing your sex life with the skill of a CEO. Lesson: keep the bad vibes (and people) out of your bed… and your life.[00:51:00] - Michael Jackson: A Weird Dude from Gary, IndianaLet's talk about the King of Pop—whose pop star career is mind-boggling, especially when you remember that he started as a regular guy from Gary, Indiana. But somewhere between “Thriller” and pet chimpanzees, things got… strange.[00:57:00] - White Women Tears: The Ultimate WeaponNo one can cry their way out of a situation like white women. They go from acting tough to waterworks faster than you can blink. The hosts talk about how dangerous it is to even be in the same room with those tears—because next thing you know, you're the bad guy.[01:00:00] - Code-Switching OlympicsThe hosts dive into the exhausting sport of code-switching, where being Black in corporate America means you're always balancing on a tightrope. Zoom calls with white co-workers? Better switch up your whole personality. And let's not even talk about the extra challenge when you're on calls with other Black folks but still under that corporate microscope.[01:05:00] - The Art of Not ForgivingForget what they told you about forgiveness being key to peace. The hosts come in hot, saying they don't need to forgive to sleep well at night. And honestly, why should they? Holding a grudge is way more satisfying than letting people back into your life with a smile and a hug.[01:10:00] - House Vibes: Cleanse Your Space from Wicked EnergyIf you've ever let someone into your home and felt their bad vibes lingering, you're not alone. One host talks about the need to bless the house after shady people come through. Demons be lurking, so make sure to sage the hell out of your living room.[01:16:00] - Steak Preferences: Dealbreaker EditionIt turns out steak preferences can be a real dealbreaker. Order your steak well-done? Congratulations, you've just disqualified yourself from any future romantic interactions. Pink and juicy is the only way to go—both for steak and other… things.[01:22:00] - Diddy's Downfall: Cue the Conspiracy TheoriesWe're all singing “Last Night” as the hosts predict Diddy's days are numbered. According to them, this isn't just a cancellation—it's a full-blown setup for his exit. If the man has any sense, he's uploading his blackmail files right now because the countdown is on.[01:30:00] - Michael Jackson, Again: More Than Just a MoonwalkWrapping it up with another round of Michael Jackson analysis. From the King of Pop's peculiar mannerisms to his Peter Pan lifestyle, the hosts can't get over how bizarre it all was. But hey, when you've got that much money and fame, being a little weird comes with the territory, right?

2x platinum music producer/DJ Baauer joins Brandon to talk about RFK Jr and Amber Rose's very strange brainrot reel use of “Harlem Shake,” the analogous journeys of “Harlem Shake” and “the sheriff of suckin u off,” the general uncontrollable nature of the internet, a long story about meeting Pharrell, Sabrina Carpenter's new album, and how to get a music guru position where people just trust you to vibe and you become very rich despite not knowing how to play music. Jamel will be back next episode but for now, enjoy The Baauer Wardell Show. Please join the Patreon for bonus episodes and our ongoing unauthorized audiobook for “Side Chick Catching Main Chick Feelings” https://www.patreon.com/thebrandonjamelshow Follow Baauer on IG, TikTok, and Twitch and keep an ear out for his upcoming album dropping later this year.

Matt's Family Fun Day (bring back the Harlem Shake) - see dabwood dog evidence here https://bit.ly/dabwood-dog . Alex's Campaign Launch (and teacher surprises) Clickfish and meet our new producer Elise  Get tickets to Matt Okine x Boilermakers gig on September 20th at https://bit.ly/boilermakersgig . Get Alex Dyson for Wannon Merch at https://bit.ly/adyson-merch . If you've got something to add to the show, slide into our dms @matt.and.alex at https://bit.ly/mattandalex-ig   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Eleven years ago, a little 6 second video sharing social media app that could (until it no longer did) came into being. The app: Vine. The First: Well... the first video shared on Vine, of course! We discuss a lost subway clip, the first Vine tweeted (which is probably the oldest still out there), the first Vine to be sold as art, and so much more! Did someone say "Capitalism"!? Plus, join us for a birdin' buggin' fallin' MouthGarf Report, and a rousing game of I See What You Did There! Please give us a 5 star rating on Apple Podcasts! Want to ask us a question? Tell us about your favorite Vine? Pay to hear the end of Chelsea's stories? Email us at  debutbuddies@gmail.comListen to Kelly and Chelsea's awesome horror movie podcast, Never Show the Monster.Get some sci-fi from Spaceboy Books.Get down with Michael J. O'Connor's music!Next time: First Trapeze Artist, with a special guest! 

It's been a minute, but we are back with a jam-packed show for you all. We asked for your hot takes, and BOY did you all answer. We're rating every single hot take that you, the fans, dropped to us on Twitter. We're getting weird with it. Also, other Pitt sports news. The usual, to be honest. If you liked the podcast, be sure to follow us on Twitter @semplefipod rate us on your podcast app of choice! It helps out the show tremendously. Hosted & Produced by Zack Kaminski, who writes on Substack and has been featured on Meet at Midfield. Co-hosted by Kent VanderWoude and Mason Kling. Podcast Art & Logo were commissioned from friend of the show Birdblitz.

Vor Kurzem war Pfingsten. Eine Hochsaison für christliche Jugendfestivals, die sich auf social-media dann auch von ihrer besten Seite zeigen. Naja fast, Chrissigesicht musste schon schlucken, als er gesehen hat, dass da welche den 10 Jahre alten Harlem Shake auspackten. Da wuchs die These: Bedienen wir nur alte Trends in unserer Bubble? Oder gibts uns auch in fresh? Ist christliche Musik nur ein Abklatsch säkularer Mukke oder ist da noch eigene Schaffenskraft? Außerdem in dieser Folge: Dectective SChönnenberg geht in die nächste Runde zum Fall @warumlila und @obros, ob‘s da neue Erkenntnisse gibt? Und noch was: Kann AI Worshipmusik ersetzen? Zudem war Freddyfrosch wieder Geschichtslehrer mit nem ganz heißen Eisen aus der Musik der Aufklärungs Epoche. Klasse wird's. Viel Erfolg, bis später

The latest episode of the Straight Dope Show is filled with engaging and thought-provoking discussions on various topics, from basketball playoffs to music beefs. Join hosts El Uno and TraB the Wonder as they dive into the East Coast basketball scene, dissecting the performances of teams like the Knicks and the Celtics. They also share their candid opinions on recent music releases, including a deep dive into the Kendrick Lamar and Drake beef. With lively banter and insightful analysis, this episode is a must-listen for fans of sports, music, and pop culture. Tune in to the Straight Dope Show for an entertaining and enlightening podcast experience. [00:02:46] East Coast basketball discussion. [00:06:07] Team dynamics in basketball. [00:11:39] Celtics player dynamics and performance. [00:15:02] Smart decisions in NBA contracts. [00:19:48] Drawing fouls vs. making baskets. [00:23:52] Team dynamics in basketball. [00:29:08] Coaching in sports and movies. [00:33:13] The Celtics playoff journey. [00:37:32] Defensive Player of the Year debates. [00:39:45] Defensive player of the year. [00:45:25] Fanatical hip-hop song opinions. [00:49:42] Harlem Shake and Turn Down For What. [00:53:01] Drake's public image scrutiny. [01:00:28] Celebrity friendships in the industry. [01:02:40] Drake's controversial behavior.

BrownTown talks memes, mass mobilization, and more with Camila Cuevas (AKA @ComradeCami), Chilena expat living in Florida, USA. She uplifts liberation struggles and provides social movement resources through memes and social media via what she calls "thirst-trapping the masses into class consciousness." The team dissects our current moment in the social media landscape, the influence of TikTok on Palestine and other issues, how to push radical politics in a policed tech-world controlled by billionaires, and breakdown their favorite political memes. Originally recorded April 17, 2024. "Dude. They have all the money in the world to make propaganda…AND WE GOT MEMES!" Follow Camila on Instagram @comradecami (backup @issacommiemami), Twitter, and listen to the 805 Uncensored Podcast. Mentioned in episode:Ep. 77 - Independent Media Creation in the Age of Spin (& Capital) ft. Sophie Elizabeth JamesUS-backed coup in Chile: Salvador Allende & Augusto Pinochet (NPR)The Supreme Court effectively abolishes the right to mass protest in three US states (Vox)MEMES: Communist Squidward, 9/11 (slide 7), Brandon v. Vallas, rubbing hands dudePolitical meme/video accounts to follow:@this_is_memecoreJames Rehwald@blackleftiss@buddyhead_@peachteacommunist@cocktailsandcapitalism@abnormalize.being@anfemwaves@wlotspod@thisamericanleft@seedingsovereigntyCaitlin Johnstone (IG, Twitter, YouTube) CREDITS: Intro soundbite from @seansvv on TikTok. Outro music Harlem Shake by Baauer. Audio engineered by Kiera Battles.--Bourbon 'n BrownTownFacebook | Twitter | Instagram | Site | Linktree | PatreonSoapBox Productions and Organizing, 501(c)3Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Site | Linktree | Support

Do you know your Harlem Shakes, or your Taylor Swift? US number ones were one of the themes in Music Master, but how will you fare?

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The fellas are together today pre #eclipse for the standard Sunday Banter. #NCAA reactions, #nba predictions, the east coast #earthquake are justa few topics to expect to hear. Of course thoughts on #jcole gettin his lick back mist be addressed. 

Host Robbie Thomson is back in the hot seat, joined by Ligue 1 and PSGTV commentator Andreas Evagora and the Classique podcast's Baptiste Reynaud to discuss all the ins and outs form the past three weeks in French football.The chaps discuss Brest's improbable Champions League tilt and the pressure they face from Monaco and Lille, who are coming in hot in the final stretch of the season, while pondering the eventual fate of early-season front-runners OGC Nice and recent-season revelations RC Lens.There's everything you need to know about the OL-PSG Coupe de France final - as well as Jonathan Johnson's preview of the league clash between the sides in Round 30, and a long hard look at the upcoming European quarter-finals PSG-Barcelona, LOSC-Aston Villa and OM-Benfica, the last of which comes replete with Andy Scott's profile on Marseille's main man in attack - a certain Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.Saint-Etienne's Harlem Shake ftg. P-E Aubameyang as Bart Simpsonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey1bsMG1flwAubameyang's top goals from breakout season (2012-13)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7xEj-8M9uoPierre-Emerick still has it - Marseille highlightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCXmWDvRRIkLast-minute equaliser... A very frustrating game for OM | Focus on Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (with Angus Torode!)https://youtu.be/RvVkEhxl1aE?si=bZdllKT4O2eUMRkmAubameyang on fire against Le Havrehttps://youtu.be/kxSDTUBn0rk?si=eP4b62AuIqa0qOA1Meanwhile in Déjà Who land, Robbie announces the winner of March's Teddy Teuma jersey and drops the first clue - another impenetrable head scratcher - in the race for April's signed Terem Moffi OGC Nice Jersey. All that - and the usual mix of inside knowledge and anecdotal excellence that makes Le Beau Jeu the only French football podcast you need!Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Send us a Text Message.We're back, baby! During this episode number 95, the hosts begin by discussing popular events in music, news, and entertainment in 1995. Followed by the recent tragedy of the Francis Scott Key Bridge wreckage in Baltimore. Also, Netflix released the trailer for the upcoming “Good Times” renewal animation, P Diddy's homes being raided, and Beyoncé's newest album “Cowboy Carter”. The hosts also discuss Lizzo quitting music, the newest episode of BMF and much more. https://instagram.com/weaintdonepodcast?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

The Dynasty: Jim has some opinions on the new Apple TV+ The Dynasty Patriots documentary. This is a straight up Bill Belichick hatchet job, presumably by the Kraft family. Theater Monster: A hero/antihero passed out during a screening of Love Lies Bleeding after jacking himself into oblivion. Weekend At Bernies: A real life Weekend At Bernies as two old ladies propped up a dead man and took him to the bank to get his money. Also a Taco Bell gets lost in the dark in Winchester. WATCH THIS!, THE BEAR!, DIRE STRAITS!, MONEY FOR NOTHING!, PLAY THE GUITAR!, INTRO!, STING!, DOMINOS!, COSTCO!, PI DAY!, BLAZE PIZZA!, DEALS!, ROCK PAPER SCISSORS!, THE 80S!, DAVID BOWIE!, HAIR METAL!, DB DEATHLORD!, F-SLUR!, SARCASTIC!, MTV!, MOTLEY CRUE!, MILLIONAIRE!, WRESTLEMANIA!, ROMAN REIGNS!, THE ROCK!, THE DYNASTY!, AARON HERNANDEZ!, BILL BELICHICK!, HIT PIECE!, THROW UNDER THE BUS!, ROBERT KRAFT!, TOM BRADY!, TIGHT END!, GRONKOWSKI!, APPLE TV!, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS!, THE MURDER!, SPYGATE!, DEFLATEGATE!, NETFLIX!, GAY!, APOLOGY!, NFL!, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE!, DRUNK DRIVING!, AMENDOLA!, EDELMAN!, SUPER BOWL!, EAGLES!, MALCOLM BUTLER!, BUSY PHILIPPS!, QVC!, QVC+!, HSN!, NEW LATE NIGHT SHOW!, BUSY TONIGHT!, MUSCLE MOMMY!, LOVE LIES BLEEDING!, DRUNK GUY!, JACK OFF!, PUBLIC!, MOVIE THEATER!, ALCOHOL!, SMALL DICK!, VAPE!, MARLBORO!, MADAME WEB!, WHERE'S THE CUM!?, INDECENT!, NARC!, TATTLE TALE!, ARRESTED!, DARK SNITCHER!, ANATOMY OF A FALL!, PIRATE!, DUMB!, ARTISTIC CHOICE!, SAME SCENE!, DARK FILTER!, AMAZON PRIME!, STREAMING!, FRINGE!, EVIL!, SKIP INTRO!, CURSED!, COOL!, ATM!, WEEKEND AT BERNIES!, DEAD GUY!, DRIVE THRU!, DOUGIE!, HARLEM SHAKE!, BERNIE!, 900!, PROPPED UP!, KAREN CASBOHM!, LOREEN BEA FERALO!, ASHTABULA!, WINCHESTER!, TACO BELL!, TORNADO!, SEVER WEATHER!, INDIANAPOLIS!, MISSING!, DARK!, NEWS GUYS!, WINDS!, HURRICANE!, RICKY STANICKY!, CONAN O'BRIEN!, ADAM SANDLER!  You can find the videos from this episode at our Discord RIGHT HERE!

Full Court Press: The Caitlin Clark Effect, LeBron Reaches 40K Points, Clippers Rebrand  That Actually Happened: Jimmy Butler Was In A Fall Out Boy Music Video  3-on-3: A Celebration of Hornets Commentator Eric Collins  And Also: Awkward Elevator Rides, Dulcet Tones, Ignominious, 1300 Toilets, Dry Erase Menus, Green Flags, Aggressive Dreadlocks, GRVL, Tomball, Emo Cowboy, Harlem Shake, Bejeweled Magic 8 Balls, Hum Diddly Dee  Sponsor: Shaker and Spoon! Get $20 off your first box at www.shakerandspoon.com/horse Find Us Online - website: horsehoops.com - patreon: patreon.com/horsehoops - twitter: twitter.com/horse_hoops - instagram: instagram.com/horsehoops - facebook: facebook.com/horsehoops HORSE is hosted by Mike Schubert and Adam Mamawala. Edited by Kensei Tsurumaki. Theme song by Bettina Campomanes. Art by Allyson Wakeman. Website by Kelly Schubert. About Us On HORSE, we don't analyze wins and losses. We talk beefs (beeves?), dig into Internet drama, and have fun. The NBA is now a 365-day league and it's never been more present in pop culture. From Kevin Durant's burner accounts to LeBron taking his talents anywhere to trusting the Process, the NBA is becoming a pop culture requirement. At the same time, sports can have gatekeepers that make it insular and frustrating for people who aren't die hard fans. We're here to prove that basketball is entertaining to follow for all fans, whether you're actively watching the games or not. Recently featured in The New York Times! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

William Montgomery and Casey Rocket are in studio with comedian Heath Cordes. The trio dives into the intriguing new rule changes in Major League Baseball, not only will two batters be at the plate at the same time, but you're now also allowed to knock the ball out of the catcher's mitt with the bat if it's called a strike! Unfortunately these new rule changes come in as Heath shares his extraordinary story of tearing his ACL, not once, but three times in a single game, ending his Major League Baseball career. Will Heath ever make his comeback with the Jets? ALSO Casey recounts his solo adventure to The Great Wolf Lodge. Armed with nothing but swim shorts and a 20 spot, can Casey overcome the odds and fulfill his family rite of passage? Or will he be another sacrifice to the suave A.I. known only as Mr. Wolf? All we can say now is, don't blink! And what's a better way to prepare for your trip to The Great Wolf Lodge, than a quick visit to Nordstroms? Where the talent is plentiful and ripe for the picking! Will the chosen former "Nordy" staff be able to make it out of The Super Dome? Or will they remain at the bottom of the worlds greatest pyramid scheme? Plus William went to the dermatologist yesterday and had the weirdest experience as the doctor got a little too comfortable inspecting his naked body. Along with The Boys doing the Harlem Shake courtside at the Harlem Globetrotters game with none other than Elton John, you DON'T want to miss this episode of The William Montgomery Show!  Watch new episodes of The William Montgomery Show on YouTube every Wednesday at 8:30 PM Central: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQJ2SBnAMI8SSm5qpLXBRiw Follow William onInstagram: @william.f.montgomery1 https://williamfmontgomery.com Merch: https://william-montgomery-town.creator-spring.com For More William Montgomery, check out ‘Kill Tony' live every Monday at The Comedy Mother Ship in Austin TX and on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/KillTony Find more Casey Rocket on Instagram @caseyrocket and at https://www.patreon.com/caseyrocket Get your own Grimace shirthttps://rawpaw.ink/products/congress-is-furious-by-casey-rocket  Original cover art illustration by Ryan J. Ebelt: https://ryanjebelt.com Recorded in Austin Texas at Record ATX. Send William an email at: TheWilliamMontgomeryShow@gmail.com Leave William a voicemail at: (737) 471-1098 Send your letters & packages to:P.O. Box 40316 Austin, TX 78704 The William Montgomery Show is produced by William Montgomery & Brett Erickson A FannieCo production William F Montgomery is an American stand-up comedian.  A native of Memphis Tennessee, William now resides in Austin Texas.  Under the tutelage of a top young rising comedian, Tony Hinchcliffe, & Brian ‘The Podfather' Redban, William has become a fan favorite & the longest serving Kill Tony Regular. William has performed in front of comedy icons such as Joe Rogan, Whitney Cummings, Russell Peters, Tiffany Haddish, Doug Stanhope, Tim Dillon, Doug Benson, Donnell Rawlings, Jeff Ross, Dane Cook, Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, Ron White, Ari Shaffir, Big Jay Oakerson, Luis J Gomez, Dan Soder, Jim Gaffigan, Andrew Santino, Dom Irrera, Steve Simone, Brian Holtzman, Sal Vulcano, Ian Edwards, Greg Fitzsimmons, Shane Gillis, Kyle Dunnigan, Ms. Pat, Josh Potter, Mark Normand, Ryan Sickler, Eddie Pepitone, Josh Wolf, Moshe Kasher, Bonnie McFarlane, Steve Lee, Adam Ray, Andrew Shultz, Pauly Shore, Bob Saget, Michael Rapaport & Don Barris. Montgomery has garnered many monikers over the years: The Big Red Machine, The Vanilla Gorilla, The Memphis Madman, The Tennessee Tickler, The Strawberry Twist & The Raisin-Bread Kid. William regularly opens for Joe Rogan in the Austin Area. Along with David Lucas, William has previously hosted ‘Brothers in Cursive' & ‘Are We Really Brothers'. William has appeared on podcast such as ‘Jeremiah Wonders with Jeremiah Watkins', ‘Unlicensed Therapy with Ari Mannis', ‘Dead Air with Brian Holtzman', ‘Shenk with Sara Weinshenk' & ‘The Fat Pessimist with David Lucas'.#WilliamMontgomery #KillTony #Comedy

It is Tony's birthday! Brian has a brand new spooky cryptid for us to be terrified of! We also got a batch of movies like Godzilla Minus One and Thanksgiving to review! A new creep of the week right in Scaredycast's hometown! Also, remember the Harlem Shake? Check out our YouTube where you can now WATCH episodes of Scaredycast! And follow us on social! https://linktr.ee/scaredycast Become a PATRON to support the show and get spooky exclusive content! https://www.patreon.com/scaredycast Original music by Mangy Bones https://mangybones.bandcamp.com/ Recorded at XYZ Media https://www.xyzmedia.info/ True crime, haunted happenings, UFO sightings, and cryptid creatures. All the spooky you can possibly endure inside one little horror podcast. Get the thirst of your morbid curiosity quenched when you check out Scaredycast!

When it crash-landed on the charts in 2019, Lil Nas X's “Old Town Road” felt new and old at the same time: a savvy, TikTok-fueled viral hit that summarized a century of cross-cultural collisions between R&B, rap and country. It was also unexpectedly huge—a record 19 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100—and controversial, as Billboard magazine pulled the song from its Hot Country Songs chart, prompting a reckoning on race and the very definition of country music. “Old Town Road” wasn't just a reckoning—it was a culmination. As a hard-to-categorize hit, it called back to cross-genre experiments by everyone from Ray Charles and the Rappin' Duke to Bubba Sparxxx and even Jason Aldean. As a viral smash, its antecedents date back to “The Twist,” right through “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” and “Harlem Shake.” In honor of his new book Old Town Road (now in bookstores!) join Chris Molanphy as he walks through the many predecessors to “Old Town Road” and explains why can't nobody tell Lil Nas X nothin'. Podcast production by Kevin Bendis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When it crash-landed on the charts in 2019, Lil Nas X's “Old Town Road” felt new and old at the same time: a savvy, TikTok-fueled viral hit that summarized a century of cross-cultural collisions between R&B, rap and country. It was also unexpectedly huge—a record 19 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100—and controversial, as Billboard magazine pulled the song from its Hot Country Songs chart, prompting a reckoning on race and the very definition of country music. “Old Town Road” wasn't just a reckoning—it was a culmination. As a hard-to-categorize hit, it called back to cross-genre experiments by everyone from Ray Charles and the Rappin' Duke to Bubba Sparxxx and even Jason Aldean. As a viral smash, its antecedents date back to “The Twist,” right through “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” and “Harlem Shake.” In honor of his new book Old Town Road (now in bookstores!) join Chris Molanphy as he walks through the many predecessors to “Old Town Road” and explains why can't nobody tell Lil Nas X nothin'. Podcast production by Kevin Bendis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When it crash-landed on the charts in 2019, Lil Nas X's “Old Town Road” felt new and old at the same time: a savvy, TikTok-fueled viral hit that summarized a century of cross-cultural collisions between R&B, rap and country. It was also unexpectedly huge—a record 19 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100—and controversial, as Billboard magazine pulled the song from its Hot Country Songs chart, prompting a reckoning on race and the very definition of country music. “Old Town Road” wasn't just a reckoning—it was a culmination. As a hard-to-categorize hit, it called back to cross-genre experiments by everyone from Ray Charles and the Rappin' Duke to Bubba Sparxxx and even Jason Aldean. As a viral smash, its antecedents date back to “The Twist,” right through “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” and “Harlem Shake.” In honor of his new book Old Town Road (now in bookstores!) join Chris Molanphy as he walks through the many predecessors to “Old Town Road” and explains why can't nobody tell Lil Nas X nothin'. Podcast production by Kevin Bendis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When it crash-landed on the charts in 2019, Lil Nas X's “Old Town Road” felt new and old at the same time: a savvy, TikTok-fueled viral hit that summarized a century of cross-cultural collisions between R&B, rap and country. It was also unexpectedly huge—a record 19 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100—and controversial, as Billboard magazine pulled the song from its Hot Country Songs chart, prompting a reckoning on race and the very definition of country music. “Old Town Road” wasn't just a reckoning—it was a culmination. As a hard-to-categorize hit, it called back to cross-genre experiments by everyone from Ray Charles and the Rappin' Duke to Bubba Sparxxx and even Jason Aldean. As a viral smash, its antecedents date back to “The Twist,” right through “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” and “Harlem Shake.” In honor of his new book Old Town Road (now in bookstores!) join Chris Molanphy as he walks through the many predecessors to “Old Town Road” and explains why can't nobody tell Lil Nas X nothin'. Podcast production by Kevin Bendis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When it crash-landed on the charts in 2019, Lil Nas X's “Old Town Road” felt new and old at the same time: a savvy, TikTok-fueled viral hit that summarized a century of cross-cultural collisions between R&B, rap and country. It was also unexpectedly huge—a record 19 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100—and controversial, as Billboard magazine pulled the song from its Hot Country Songs chart, prompting a reckoning on race and the very definition of country music. “Old Town Road” wasn't just a reckoning—it was a culmination. As a hard-to-categorize hit, it called back to cross-genre experiments by everyone from Ray Charles and the Rappin' Duke to Bubba Sparxxx and even Jason Aldean. As a viral smash, its antecedents date back to “The Twist,” right through “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” and “Harlem Shake.” In honor of his new book Old Town Road (now in bookstores!) join Chris Molanphy as he walks through the many predecessors to “Old Town Road” and explains why can't nobody tell Lil Nas X nothin'. Podcast production by Kevin Bendis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When it crash-landed on the charts in 2019, Lil Nas X's “Old Town Road” felt new and old at the same time: a savvy, TikTok-fueled viral hit that summarized a century of cross-cultural collisions between R&B, rap and country. It was also unexpectedly huge—a record 19 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100—and controversial, as Billboard magazine pulled the song from its Hot Country Songs chart, prompting a reckoning on race and the very definition of country music. “Old Town Road” wasn't just a reckoning—it was a culmination. As a hard-to-categorize hit, it called back to cross-genre experiments by everyone from Ray Charles and the Rappin' Duke to Bubba Sparxxx and even Jason Aldean. As a viral smash, its antecedents date back to “The Twist,” right through “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” and “Harlem Shake.” In honor of his new book Old Town Road (now in bookstores!) join Chris Molanphy as he walks through the many predecessors to “Old Town Road” and explains why can't nobody tell Lil Nas X nothin'. Podcast production by Kevin Bendis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's the role of a music video today? In the 1980s, music videos flipped the industry thanks to MTV. Videos helped artists like Michael Jackson and Madonna become cultural icons. Record labels spent millions on music videos to promote their CD sales. Everyone was winning.Music videos don't hold the same power today in the streaming era. The budgets are smaller, but they still get made. To break it all down, I was joined by MIDiA Research analyst Tati Cirisano. Here's what we covered:0:52 What is the role of a music video today?2:15 MTV's role in music videos7:46 Comparisons to TikTok11:27 Music video budgets peaked in mid-90s14:30 Napster changed everything17:27 Music videos as career launchpads18:50 YouTube revitalizes music videos25:44 Range of video budgets 31:04 Big dollars going to documentaries and short films32:53 Rise of lyric videos41:42Does YouTube have a music video formula?44:09Measuring ROI of music videos in 2023Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | SoundCloud | Stitcher | Overcast | Amazon | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts | RSSHost: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.coGuests: Tati Cirisano, @tatianacirisanoThis episode is sponsored by DICE. Learn more about why artists, venues, and promoters love to partner with DICE for their ticketing needs. Visit dice.fmEnjoy this podcast? Rate and review the podcast here! ratethispodcast.com/trapitalTrapital is home for the business of music, media and culture. Learn more by reading Trapital's free memo.TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Tati Cirisano: There's an argument to be made that MTV like almost invented the music video or almost like made music videos a thing because having that audience there and having that like cultural impact is what led to bigger budgets for music videos so I almost feel like MTV gets credit for like kind of inventing the music video. [00:00:19] Dan Runcie Intro: Hey, welcome to the Trapital Podcast. I'm your host and the founder of Trapital, Dan Runcie. This podcast is your place to gain insights from executives in music, media, entertainment, and more who are taking hip hop culture to the next level.[00:00:47] Dan Runcie Guest Intro: This episode is all about music videos and what their value prop is in the industry today. Back in the MTV era, the role of a music video was clear. This was your four minute opportunity to sell the hell out of your artist and for your label to promote its artist. Yet fans bought into the lifestyle, the identity, the persona of this person, and get them to go to Sam Goody, go to Tower Records and buy the albums.It was a marketing channel and it was a marketing channel that the record labels were continuing to put money into, and as the effectiveness continued to grow, they put more and more. Into that and that budget exploded. By the time we got to the mid to late 90s, we saw music video budgets hitting millions of dollars, and artists were doing out of this world things in these videos.But we slowly started to see those budgets slash. Went at the introduction of Napster and the CD era started to decline and the money was no longer flowing the way that it once was. But we started to see music videos take a new turn in the YouTube era. And now in the TikTok era, what is the ROI of a music video?What role do they serve in today's industry? And to break it down, we're enjoying by Tati Cirisano, an analyst at MIDia Research. He's been on the podcast a bunch of times, and this topic was right up her alley. So we talked a bit about that and more. Hope you enjoy this episode. Here's our breakdown on the role of music videos in today's industry.[00:02:16] Dan Runcie: All right. Today we are going to take a trip down memory lane to the wonderful World of Music videos, how this art form has evolved over the years. And I'm joined by Tati Cirisano from MIDiA Research, Tati welcome. [00:02:28] Tati Cirisano: Thank you. Good to beback once again. [00:02:31] Dan Runcie: Yeah, definitely. Can I start with a story? You mind if I start with a story with this one?  So, a couple weeks ago I was catching up with, CEO from one of the major record labels. This is someone that if you're probably listening to this household, if you're probably listening to this podcast, you probably know, and they run a label that is also a household name, and they were telling me about a conversation they had with an artist who is also a household name and how this artist wanted to have a million dollar plus seven plus figure, multi-million dollar music video budget because they wanted to make this big splash with what they were doing. And the CEO was like, no, I'm not giving you that. Like, what do you think this is? And for context, this is a artist who hasn't had a big hit since George Bush's first term. Let me say that roughly, just to give some context here. So,So it's been some time, but I also was a bit surprised because this is someone who seemed like they were up with the times in tech, and I remember asking the label exec, I was like, what's the deal? I thought this artist was with this. You see the movies they're making here, there, and this, that, and the third.And he was like, Hey. You would be surprised sometimes the egos get the best of these people and this is what they want. And that was a big inspiration for this conversation because I know you and I have talked about things like Spotify versus YouTube. YouTube, of course, having such a big focus in music videos and it's role.But that's what made me think it would be a great time to take a trip down memory lane and just revisit music videos themselves and. Going back to 1981, I feel like we could start music videos well before that. That obviously was there, but I think that was the origin place for a lot of what became known as the Modern Music Video and MTV itself.What's your take on how impactful MTV was? Because there was definitely a big shift of any music videos we saw before and any music videos we saw after.[00:04:36] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, I mean, you're right that like we could start this even further. Back in history, there were artists like the Beatles were making music films in like the 60s. David Bowie did the same but there wasn't really a place to showcase them the way that MTV, like, the one that MTV created. So I feel like it's not just that really iconic, amazing music videos, like those of, like Michael Jackson and, others made MTV a thing.I feel like there's an argument to be made that MTV like almost invented the music video or almost like made music videos a thing because having that audience there and having that like cultural impact is what led to bigger budgets for music videos and labels kind of focusing on this as an art form and a promotional piece.And that also led to more interesting creative videos. So I almost feel like MTV gets credit for like kind of inventing the video, the music video. [00:05:30] Dan Runcie: And inventing the video as a distinct art form that can live on its own in distinction from the music itself, because you mentioned The Beatles, you mentioned some of those other artists from that time. Music videos almost felt more like a utility. They were a commodity. Let's put the camera up while you're recording the tune, and maybe we'll add in some things.Maybe they'll add in some B-roll. And that's what it very much existed as for years. But then MTV takes it and makes it this unique thing. And we saw from the early days, whether it was Duran Duran, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Madonna, they were some of the early people that really made it their own thing.And you saw more of those movies and that's where MTV being able to capture the eyeballs there, the growth of cable as well, and them becoming one of the more popular channels there. You see this platform having this type of impact, you invest more dollars into it, and this becomes a much stronger marketing channel, which then commanded and justified them putting more and more money over time into these videos.[00:06:35] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, and speaking of Madonna, I think it also made music a lot more visual where music videos kind of opened this pathway for artists to become not just music icons, but kind of like style and fashion and cultural icons. there's so many videos that. Are just kind of like etched into everyone's brains and so many iconic outfits like people still dress up as, Britney Spears and the Baby One More Time Video and like all these other iconic ones. I think it, started making music more of a visual thing. And in turn, that also helped drive fandom around artists. Cuz if there's one thing I've learned in all the studying of, fandom that I've done and how it develops, it's pretty much always about context.It's always maybe listening to a song makes you a fan or doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a listener of the artist. But it's only once you know more about, who they are and like what their style is and what their aesthetic is and all these other things that you become a true fan. I think a lot of fandom was formed by sitting around the TV with friends and like watching a video for the first time on MTV.It was just a more captivating way to get to know an artist and have that context around them. [00:07:47] Dan Runcie: It's a big point, and that's something I definitely related with too. Growing up in that era, you were able to see and interact with those artists. If I had just heard these artists on the radio, it would've been a very different relationship. But I know that for a lot of people, that's how they gravitated to music.That's how they captured this, and that wasn't the way that it, I grew up for me, whether it was watching them on MTV, watching them on BET, That was the experience, and especially as things started to take off in the CD era, we saw more artists having success with it. We also started to see more pushback as well.I think it was around the early 90s, even the late eighties, this was around the time MTV was really kicking into gear. And the sales and numbers, everything was just up and to the right from a growth perspective. But we started to hear more critiques, some of the more traditionalists in the music industry started to say things like, these music videos are turning artists into one trick ponies.It's no longer about the music anymore. It's about making, Music video. And that's clearly resonating with some of the critiques. We now hear about TikTok as well. But it makes me think about the patterns that music often follows and when there is a new art form that does allow some type of growth, there's critiques, but those critiques also do stem from bit of this.If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. And we've seen this time and time again where a lot of those artists that had. Had critiques about MTV, whether it was Mariah Carey in the very early days, or even groups like REM, they would go on to make some of the most iconic music videos from the 90s as well.And I think we've seen the same with whether it's streaming or TikTok music videos was one of the things that I remember as having a bit of that cyclical pattern.[00:09:32] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, and there's so many trends in music videos that I feel like now we're play, we're seeing play out on TikTok or have already seen like there was sort of the dance, video craze of like, single ladies and crank that and PSY with Gangnam style.There were all these music videos that were about getting everyone to do a dance. And that was the way, that was like the promotional thing of if you got people to do that, then they would do it at the club when the song came on, they would do it in public. It would sort of become this bigger moment. And then that was kind of the first phase of TikTok when it started to rise in the 2020 when in early 2020 was like all dance videos.and even. I remember there were some videos that people, I know we haven't gotten to YouTube yet, but when YouTube came into the equation, people were uploading their own versions of videos and now that's like a pretty common thing. But yeah, it's interesting how all this stuff is cyclical and I think like video to the stuff about, the criticisms and like being one trick ponies and that kind of thing.I think that video has kind of, with music, always been about creating a cultural moment, aside from it just being another art form that I think artists delight in taking part in. Cause it's just another way to be creative. But I think it's, it's, about creating a cultural moment and creating a cultural moment in this day and age has morphed into this concept of virality, but it's always been about the same thing.Like viral in the 90s was, people wanting to be Britney Spears in that music video I was just talking about, and it kind of like being, this thing everyone was talking about for months. The same thing is happening now on TikTok. It's just happening faster. so yeah, I think that a lot of this stuff is cyclical and those criticisms, the point is that it's a promotional tool, so of course it's gonna lead to kind of like flash in the pan moments.So, Yeah, I have complicated feelings about those criticisms, I guess.[00:11:28] Dan Runcie: Yeah, I do too. I understand and I think that what we saw in the next decade, especially with some of those artists that came around and ended up leaning in, said a lot about where it is. And not every artist needed to do the MTV thing. Not every artist needed to lean into it all the way. Granted, I do think that most artists had music videos to an extent, but there was clearly a wave of where things were going.And right around the mid to late 90s, We saw the peak, at least from a budget perspective, of how much money was being put into music videos. And when you're talking about creating moments and in the pre-internet era, there wasn't necessarily as much virality, but the thing that got people locked in was how visually stunning or something that you've seen that's never been seen before.It's almost this bigger was better era. And then we get to points where in the mid 90s, Both Madonna and Michael and Janet Jackson are having music videos that aren't just one or 2 million. That screen music video was rumored to be around five to 7 million depending on the source you look at, in 1995 dollars, and that's that black and white video.They're shape shifting and all this stuff. And we continued to see this over the next couple of years. Of course, hype Williams and everything that he did from music videos was always unique, is always futuristic and with all of the elements that he had there. But it took a lot of money to make those music videos the same way with NSYNC and all those no strings attached music videos.Those were multimillion dollar music videos too. And it brings me back to even the things that they would spend money on. I'm thinking about, Busta Rhymes and Janet Jackson, they had that once. It's gonna be a music video where you have the silver liquid that's like coming over. Both of them and Busta Rhymes took guitar lessons.Apparently that's what MTV's making the video thing had said in its, little popup that comes to the music video. But all of those things [00:13:24] Tati Cirisano: I missed those popups. [00:13:26] Dan Runcie: I know it was such a fun era, right? It was. It was such a, I guess a lot of that's been now disrupted by what we see on YouTube, which I know we'll get into in a minute, but that was such a moment.I think it spoke to, why people were willing to put in money at the time with just where things were with the era that was the marketing channel. Music videos were seen purely as an expense to be able to sell more CDs the same way that touring at the time was seen as an opportunity to try and sell more CDs.And the artists that sold the most often got the biggest budgets. And at the time, bigger was all often seen as better, especially when it came to the contemporary Pop X and that whole ecosystem of music, video culture, and everything around it made that take off the way it did.[00:14:13] Tati Cirisano: no, absolutely. I think the promotional power was worth it at the time. and like you said, you could justify spending that much on a music video if you were gonna make it back in CD sales if you were one of these superstars. So it made a lot of sense at the time. And then came master.[00:14:31] Dan Runcie: Yeah, that changed everything because and there was a fair amount of overlap there just with the way things were because so much of the industry was still focused where it was, I look at even the music video economy where there was a cyclical nature where because of the demand, The programs themselves or the channels themselves started launching programs dedicated to showcasing music videos, whether it was 106 and Park or TRL.They had different shows throughout the day, but all of them were some unique flavor of just trying to show you more music videos. And that's what was cool about it. You were able to have this whole ecosystem there, but then as you mentioned, Napster comes in, changes everything. The dollars are no longer flowing, and it.Is harder to justify spending millions of dollars on a music video if you can't confirm that that artist is gonna be able to do that. I think in a lot of ways, the peak was, we talked about them before in sync, Britney Spears, Nsync being able to sell, I think it was nearly 3 million units of an album the first week that it comes out.Like people skipping school in order to go buy, no strings attached. That just didn't happen any more to that level. I mean, we eventually saw examples like Adele and even this Taylor Swift album, but it wasn't the same way that it was then, and it shifted everything and I think it eventually Led to lower budgets.We still saw a lot of creativity. I still remember watching tons of music videos, especially in the mid to, especially in the mid two thousands. But it was definitely a different vibe cuz it was this pre and post Napster, but pre YouTube era where the budgets were still somewhat strong, but it wasn't quite what it was before.[00:16:13] Tati Cirisano: and there was this whole ecosystem before that, like, it's, kind of stunning me to remember how many different roles there were. Like music directors I feel like got a lot more shine because there were the VMAs and all these kind of things dedicated to them. But then there were the VJs of the time.and there were kind of like the. dancers and the other like characters in these videos, which kickstarted a lot of actors and actresses careers. Just being in these music videos, there was this idea of like the video vixen, which is a term I absolutely cringe to the n degree at, but like that was a role, like there was such an ecosystem around it. You're totally right and then it really so much since then. [00:16:54] Dan Runcie: When you think of the term video vixen, who's the first person that comes to mind?[00:16:58] Tati Cirisano: I think of people like Eva Mendez in the Miami video with Will Smith, I think of Scarlet Johansen. which one was she in? It was like some, [00:17:09] Dan Runcie: Justin Timberlake, what goes around comes around.[00:17:11] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, there were so many, I don't know. Alicia Silverstone I know was in a couple of music videos. Kim Kardashian was in Fallout boy, thanks for the Memories, which was a bit later and like she was already famous. But like that remembering that blows my mind. Like there were just so many of these examples. I don't know. [00:17:27] Dan Runcie: Yeah, there's a few that comes to mind. I think about someone like Vida Guerrera, like she was always in a bunch of them. Even male video vixen's too. I'm thinking [00:17:37] Tati Cirisano: Yeah. [00:17:38] Dan Runcie: Beckford and, Toni Braxton's Unbreak my heart, in that one. And then Tyrese and, what music video is that was that angel of mine with Monica.So you definitely had 'em back and forth. Even the artists themselves sometimes ended up being vixens and other ones. Terrence Howard was in a bunch of 'em. But I think that this too, it talks about just how music was a launchpad, right? You mentioned the VJs earlier. So many of these VJs started as those types of personalities, but then they went on to go do other things.I mean, Carson Daley is a media personality now doing his own thing. He got his roots in TRL. I feel like, aJ from 106 and Park still does media things suspense. Terrence Jay definitely does as well. So you see those, but you also saw it on the music video side too, where directors like Spike Jones is now doing, you know, Hollywood movies. Look at the Daniels, they directed turn down for what? the little John's music video, and then they just directed and won an Oscar for Best Picture and best Director with everything everywhere, all at once. So music continues to be a launchpad in [00:18:45] Tati Cirisano: What a pivot. Turn Down for What to Everything Everywhere All At Once.[00:18:50] Dan Runcie: Yeah, never would've guessed that one, never would've guessed that one. And I think with that, we should probably start now talking about the YouTube era because things took another turn here. You mentioned a little bit of this earlier where user-generated videos started to take off, but I think the success of YouTube started to tell people that, Hey, The things that are going viral and getting attention.It isn't just using the most amount of money possible to see outta this world stuff. As cool as it was to see Hype Williams creating action figures of Missy Elliot running around in space, we don't necessarily need to see that much out of this world to do it. It can be Soulja boy doing his type of dance and then having all this other user generated content on Crank that Batman, crank, that Spider-Man, crank that whoever, and we saw that time and time again.So I think YouTube, and this was before any of the licensing deals came. The fact that crank that blew up became the number one single in the country stuck out in a way. And I think that led to another evolution of what people were willing to spend money on and how they thought about the promotion of music videos as well.[00:19:59] Tati Cirisano: Totally like remember the okay go music video with the treadmills. Like remember how cool we all thought that was? I mean, I'll speak for myself, but like it's like funny to think about now. That was such a big deal. That they made this like really low budget video, just kind of like running around on treadmills.And I think that's the other thing that's interesting about YouTube is, so pre MTV, there was like not really any place to showcase music videos. Then there was this channel for it, but it was really limited to the major label signed artists. And then you got to YouTube where there wasn't any gatekeeping around music videos anymore.Anything could be uploaded and anything could be played. And there was just less of that gatekeeping. But then the flip side of that is it also means that it's a lot harder to stand out. And so YouTube has, kind of made any one of those videos a bit less impactful for that reason. Over time, I think, and that gets back to like the fragmentation that, you know, I love to talk about.[00:20:57] Dan Runcie: It's fascinating because I think that each time something goes viral or each time something breaks out on YouTube, You do get a lot of copycat behavior. You see a moment where things are happening. It isn't always rational, but that's kind of the beauty of it. And then you go on to something else. I was looking at things talking about the 10 year anniversary of Harlem Shake, of that whole video wave where people were doing all those crazy dances.The music then stops, and then a couple years later we saw Black Beatles and that saw reach a whole nother level because of the freeze challenge thing that people were doing. And that was a whole nother culture with it because again, we started to see less flashiness of them trying to do particular things.But once the licensing came, music videos then became revenue generating tools. On their own and it was no longer necessarily just about trying to have a song get retired on the charts, whether it was on a 106 and Park and TRL there became the subculture of how can we get this music video to hit this?Number of streams or this hit this number of views. And I know we start to see this now more where most of the services are publicly sharing how many streams and views their songs and music videos have. But I feel like we started to see this on YouTube first, and a lot of the chatter that you would once see started to live in the comments section.And you started to see these subcultures of fans that would gravitate and connect to songs in that way. And I felt like that was something that was unique.[00:22:29] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, and there were a lot music videos, over the past, like five years, over the past 10 years, like the single ladies video and like Childish Gambino with this is America. And even like more recently, like the Kendrick Lamar video with like the AI generated faces, I forget which song that [00:22:46] Dan Runcie: Oh yeah, the hard part five.[00:22:47] Tati Cirisano: Yes. But you're totally right that rather than the go, the virality of a music video. Just being about driving streams. they also, those videos also became revenue generated themselves. So going viral on YouTube, having a video that everybody was gonna be anxious to watch, was a big deal for that.And there, I feel like there were kind of less so today, but like pre TikTok in like 2016 to like 2020. It kind of feels like there was a bit of a mini revival of like, Music videos being this bigger promotional tool, like, do you remember all the promotion around the Thank you Next video for Ariana Grande?That was nuts, like, we were all waiting weeks for that video to come out and there was so much, conversation about it and so many clips and so many interviews in the press and I feel like there was kind of a moment before TikTok came around when music videos were once again, kind of this really big promotional tool and way to kind of break through the noise and generate revenue.[00:23:47] Dan Runcie: With Thank you, next. That was the one where they spoofed mean girls, right?[00:23:51] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, and like a bunch of other of those types of movies, like there was like a clueless scene in it. I feel like there [00:23:57] Dan Runcie: Oh yeah, yeah. [00:23:57] Tati Cirisano: I feel like there were a bunch, maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I think they, they did that with like a bunch of different, like 90s and two thousands movies. And there were so many cameos. There were so many cameos. [00:24:08] Dan Runcie: Oh yeah, that's right. It did. It did. And I think a few of those music videos, you mentioned Salish Gambino as well. He's clearly someone that I think is calculated and knows what he's doing from a communication perspective, but with that video, it wasn't even necessarily about how much money was spent on this or something. It was more so here's this timely thing and there was a shock value that was linked to it, and I know that music videos have always had a bit of, have always had shock value, especially since the MTV area era think specifically about an artist like Madonna and then even Britney later on that leaned into this.But we started to see artists lean, lean into it even more from a. political standpoint, making statements and trying to say things that they wouldn't otherwise have said. And even thinking about artists like Joyner Lucas who had someone that was wearing a Make America Great again hat in their music video to then show that as some type of hypothetical conversation of what it could be like to talk to people that may think differently.I may be misremembering parts of the music video, but we started to see more of that integrate where. That then stems from how flexible this art form can be. You can have a music video like wp, which I do think was one of the more recent, you know, TikTok era music videos that created a moment. You could have them have these standalone things as well. [00:25:29] Tati Cirisano: Mm-hmm. That's exactly what I mean with how music videos give you so much more context like it's just another way for the artist to tell their story and express themselves. It's just another avenue for that, and there's so many different ways to do that. It is such a flexible art form. [00:25:44] Dan Runcie: Yeah, definitely. I have a few stats here that I think would be helpful just for some context setting. As we mentioned earlier, we talked about music video budgets in the late 90s and even the early two thousands where, top artists getting million dollars plus for their music video wasn't uncommon.But here, let me share some numbers. Cardi B had shared some self-reported public numbers of things she spent on music videos just over the years. This was from two years ago, so I'm sure she's done stuff then. But Bodak Yellow, that was the music videos that they had done. That one in Dubai, that was $15,000.Granted, she was much smaller at the time. People likely weren't charging her as much, but she did that for just $15,000 and then, Bar Cardi, that was $150,000. The money music video, which did look like a pretty elaborate and not cheap music video. That was 400,000, please Me. The one that she did with Bruno Mars, that was 900,000 and then WAP was a million dollars.But those are two artists coming together, and that was also another expensive looking music video with a bunch of cameos as well. So even WAP, something that I would consider on the highest degree. Of what, major record label might be willing to spend. Even that was just a million dollars or compared to how much more they were willing to spend a couple decades before.[00:27:02] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, yeah, I mean that, that kind of doesn't surprise me. Like I feel like the ROI for music videos has just gone down a lot and it just doesn't make sense to spend much more than that on a music video. Like you can still make a splash, it can still be, a good promotional tool. And a way to, generate more revenue, but they don't tend to last as long as they used to, and it's just really hard to get people's attention on one thing these days.I think short form is also being prioritized or that's kind of the sense that I'm getting and yeah, it doesn't totally surprise me, does it? What do you think about those numbers? [00:27:44] Dan Runcie: It doesn't surprise me either because of where so much music is consumed and how things go viral. But it is a bit interesting when I think about music videos as a visual art form and what tracks and what resonates compared to other forms of entertainment where I do feel like we've continued to see bigger and bigger com, bigger and better, at least from the money that's put into these productions for major film studios, for instance, what they're putting into superhero films, what they put into Fast and Furious films, or even what James Cameron had put into Avatar. Spending 300 million, not even on the marketing, just on the budget for these movies isn't even unheard of now. So there's clearly an attraction of doing that, even if it is one of these tent pole franchise movies, even for some of the things that have gone straight to video.But that didn't necessarily happen in the same way in music videos. It started to pull. We obviously know that the industry was hit harder than others, so it pulled back. But even as the industry continued to grow, and I think, I mean, I know now the numbers unadjusted for inflation have the highest, at least revenue on the recorded side.Bigger hasn't necessarily translated to better in that perspective. Even if you look at video games, the graphics, all the things that are stunning are the things that we continue to see. And granted in, video games, we've seen a few outliers, like when Nintendo, we blew up. Clearly that wasn't a graphics thing, but they were tapping into something that Xbox and PlayStation weren't at the time.But in music videos, the bigger, better graphics of artists doing crazy things just didn't resonate in the same way, the only music video I can think of is, Ed Sheeran, what's that music video he did? I think he's kind of floating around and stuff and moving. I think it's bad habits. But one of those, I think that's probably the most recent one, but even that one I don't think is like that expensive of a music video, but we just haven't seen better.I'm thinking back to in the 90s. Yeah, I mentioned the Hype Williams music videos or even, you know, Backstreet Boys like moving around in space and larger than life. We just haven't seen that translate in that same way in music videos. [00:29:51] Tati Cirisano: Yeah. Well the other thing that you just that just made me think of when you mentioned film is how do I put this? Like album promo cycles these days are so much less premeditated, right? It's more about putting songs out and seeing how people react, and then deciding which ones to push forward as a single, then deciding what to put music, video resources behind.So I think that the other difference with music versus something like film and TV is things are just getting decided on the fly. Like a song goes viral and then you're like, okay, now we're gonna make a video for this song, but you wouldn't decide that until you saw how the songs were performing. So I think that that's a big, big factor in it as well. But we've also seen some good, like low but lower budget music videos. Like I loved the Ice Spice Pink Panther for boys a Liar. And it was literally just them like hanging out on a fire escape. And I was like, this is perfect. So I think we've also seen like some good lower budget ones come out of this as well.But yeah, definitely doesn't feel like the same, you know, spending all this money on like these crazy graphics and like whatever it is, has as much of an impact or is, as worth it as it might be in film. [00:31:04] Dan Runcie: I feel like we've seen a few outliers here or there in music. Kanye West's music videos, especially in that, let's say 2007 to 2015, 16 range, it seemed like there was still a good amount of money that was being put into those. And even some of the extended ones that, that short form video, the short form film version of Runaway, still felt like a pretty expensive music video.And I'm pretty sure Hype Williams directed that. But I also wonder is. Is the definition of what we consider music video, and the expansion of that. Also shifting what people are putting money into and how it's categorized. And by that I'm talking about some of these documentaries that have come out and what bucket we put those in.I look at something like when Taylor Swift had recorded those pond sessions after the folklore evermore albums had come out. She essentially did an entire visual album of her at this pond or wherever. She wasn't that like Cottage and Sells and sold that to Disney, and then Disney then streams and puts that out and it's an hour or two hours or however long it is.Beyonce is recording her Coachella performance and then sells that to Netflix, and then Netflix puts that out. And you're essentially watching an alternate version of a Beyonce music video that is just over this two hour or two hour 15 minutes, however long it is. But when I think about that, I think about these visual albums and just how so many of them have spanned in, had different forms and ways they've gone about it. Is that where some of these more expensive projects are going? Is that where some of the more expensive dollars are going when looking at video as it relates to music, as opposed to just this music video bucket that we may have put it in?[00:32:53] Tati Cirisano: I think so, and I think I would also put in that category like the more. Like the short films that our music videos. And that's something that artists have been doing forever. But I mean, like, I don't know, like the Taylor Swift All Too Well video and even like, I feel like the SZA Kill Bill video was like longer than the song and like had, a lot of artists are starting to add more of a story and create more of like a short film. And I think part of that is a way to like just stand out from all the other music videos and actually grab people's attention because you are really telling a story, you're taking it to the next level. And even having parts where like the song isn't even playing, and I think you're probably right, that more of the budget that used to go to music videos, Is now going more sparingly to a few of those types of projects for the bigger artists. Whereas, l ike for what was traditionally a music video is now becoming lyric videos or sort of like these animated videos that I've seen come up that are so much cheaper to produce and often also involve AI generation, which is, an area that I feel like we haven't really touched on in all of the discourse about AI and music is like AI for music videos.And maybe that will end up lowering the cost to making these really fantastic crazy concepts that we used to see that used to cost 7 million. And now, well you can click a button. So I don't know, maybe we'll see like a reversal of what, of everything we're talking about, of like music videos kind of shrinking and instead becoming bigger. But yeah, I think you're right.[00:34:28] Dan Runcie: The point that you mentioned about music videos and just the storytelling, adding in the short film piece of it. I don't know if he was the first, but Michael Jackson Thriller is the one that comes to mind there, just with how that became this extended film. But again, not everyone was getting that much budgeter opportunity to do that in that way.Michael Jackson had built up the track record in order to make that happen, and then as you see, we continue to see that now with Taylor and others. I'm glad you mentioned the piece around lyric videos and AI, because lyric videos have long been the low-hanging fruit. Of YouTube, especially for artists.Yes, it's great to have your own music video, but sometimes people don't want that. They just wanna be able to have it there playing and Sure from a purely practical perspective, you could tell yourself. They can go listen to that and Spotify or they can just go listen to the audio version. That's what they want, but not necessarily.There are creative and unique things that you can do with music videos. It doesn't always have to be the text scrolling across the same way it would on a karaoke screen or something like that. Artists have had unique ways to go about it, and AI music videos isn't even necessarily something I necessarily thought of, but what's holding it back? You look at the same way that the images went viral of the Pope in, you know, wearing the bomber jacket or whatever it was. The same thing can happen with the music video. And when I'm thinking about this, I'm thinking again about like how we started this conversation around where some of the critiques are that people have had with music videos when they first came out. Some of the critiques, we hear now about this more user generated era of music, videos and content as well. The path and the journey. It seems that once music gets too derivative in some ways, two things happen. One, it expands and grows the pie for the overall industry, which is good because we wanna be able to see the impact in music.We wanna be able to see it grow. That's always gonna naturally attract detractors that wanna see the thing in the pure form, but nothing stopping them from seeing the thing in the pure form. But we do wanna be able to see the growth in evolution there. And AI is the next version of this where, what is the core piece that you have, whether it's the artist and the music that the rights holders have the control and ownership of, but whether it's music, video, or just other ways to do it, what are the ways that that can be unlocked? And if that can be done in a great way, that's where the potential comes.That's where you unlock all of the opportunity in the industry. And who knows, like you said, it doesn't even need to be as expensive as it was, but you're giving people the opportunity to do something unique. [00:37:06] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, and speaking of the SZA one, I don't know if this is something that she planned or if it's just something she's encouraged, but there's a whole culture on TikTok of fans making their own SZA music videos. Not copying the ones that have already been created, but making their own. And she'll repost them and comments on them and like talk about the ones that are her favorites. And that whole thing is really fascinating to me. And it even like brings me back to the lyric videos because the whole reason that the music industry started to realize, oh, we should release these music videos, was because fans were already making them and it was just revenue that the industry wasn't, and eyeballs that the industry wasn't capturing.So lyric videos were just a way to kind of formalize that, and I think we're seeing that in so many ways on TikTok with sped up songs that fans uploaded and then record labels formalized. So I don't really know where I'm going with this with music videos, but I feel like there's a connection there of like, How, video could potentially enter more of that. I mean, music videos could potentially enter more of that, UGC space. But the other thing I wanted to bring up before I forget, is that I did grab some stats from our research at MIDia about, both of those things. So just for context here. 59% of global consumers use YouTube to watch music videos weekly. And then we had another question where we asked how do you engage with music artists beyond listening to their music? And 35% of consumers said they watch lyric videos. and that's from our Q4 22 consumer survey and our Q1 23 respectively. So, both arepretty high. [00:38:41] Dan Runcie: Yeah, I would say so. I wonder for some artists, the numbers that they've had for the music videos and lyric videos are probably closer than they think, right? And sometimes a lot of it just depends on what you're in the mood for. Sometimes, there's just so many more opportunities to have a passive thing in the background, and sometimes I've done it myself without even thinking, I think what is the user experience that then causes me to go to a lyric video, even when I know the music video is there. And most of the time it's when I wanna have the thing in the background. Maybe I'll go to it, but I don't necessarily wanna stare at the screen for the next few minutes and it makes perfect sense and there's so many more use cases for that.So I wouldn't be surprised if for certain artists, they both serve a purpose, but they might actually be making more from the respective lyric song. And I think when you just think about it overall, the Lyric song does enable you to have your entire album up on the streaming services guy, I guess you could technically have a few versions where I've seen some artists have the music video, they have the lyric video, and then they just have the still with the cover art of the album there.So you have three different options and that could all be, revenue that goes back to the artist and the rights solar.[00:39:53] Tati Cirisano: Mm-hmm. There's also this interesting idea of like how all these things kind of play together. Like going back to the episode that we did on, that was about YouTube and, kind of contrasting these short form video platforms and how YouTube's whole pitch is that they're able to unite long form and short form so that, you know, there isn't that gap where people watch a TikTok video about, and then they don't actually go in and learn more about the artists. So, I don't know. I think there's something interesting there with YouTube being the main place where people watch music videos. The only, like the main place, I won't say the only. And also having the short form video platform. So I think that is a really strong proposition to be able to kind of marry the two. [00:40:35] Dan Runcie: Here's a question for you similar to that I actually don't know the answer to this myself, but thinking about how like audio and music itself, we see how music has adapted over time based on the mode and the medium that it is, whether it's CDs and streaming. And then we see the impact of TikTok and everything else.And music videos we've seen similar where we knew what a an MTV era music video looked like, especially if it was a music video that's trying to be on TRL. There's almost a certain formula that you saw to it. And we also see now what a TikTok video can look like where you see the types of dances and you see the way that the music video is made almost in a way to make it easily be replicated, whether it's a Drake, Lizzo, Doja Cat, Cardi B, plenty people have done this.Do you think this exists as well with YouTube? Was there a certain type of music video that stands out to you, is Yes. This is a YouTube music video. This is a music video that personifies the YouTube era of music videos.[00:41:38] Tati Cirisano: I love that question. that's a really good question.[00:41:42] Dan Runcie: As I'm thinking about it, there's one person that did come to mind. NBA Young Boy is a person that I do think speaks to the YouTube era of music videos because he approaches this the same way that. Someone like Mr. Beast approaches videos. There is a formula there, he has his hook, he has the things.There is a bit of the storytelling dynamic of what he is trying to do, or the challenge that they're trying to overcome, and then they do the thing. But it's definitely told in this way that has the hook and the elements that you naturally see. In YouTube and the way that the font for the name of the music video scrolls up, that is very much the formula.How quick it is for the beat to start. All those types of things, I think speak a lot to the YouTube era.[00:42:27] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, I also think, I'm thinking of artists who have sort of played into meme culture with their videos, like Drake has kind of done that. Remember how meme'd the Hotline Bling video was like. Even like the video for, what's that song you have with Justin Bieber? Pop Star was like, kind of playing into like the stereotypes about them in a way.Like I think artists like them who have sort of played into internet culture in their videos are maybe part of that YouTube era. Charli XCX, the boys video felt very YouTube, Yeah, I would say things like that. And then also videos that invited user participation, like the dance video craze, where it was kind of intended to get you to make your own version.And that was kind of like the early TikTok was being YouTube. So, yeah, that's a great question. [00:43:22] Dan Runcie: Yeah, and I think we saw some of this with Instagram as well, because I think about Drake in my Feelings. That was another one where there was clearly a Instagramable place where he's saying, please repeat this, because TikTok really wasn't blowing up the way that it was then, but he clearly made this video leading into that.And if anything, I think that the video came after we saw the viral instagram clips of, what was that guy? Shaggy that was doing the dances for that music video and then Danny Le as well. So there were a few people that had done that.[00:43:55] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, no, the correlation is so fascinating. I could do a whole nother podcast on how Drake lyrics invented Instagram captions, but we'll save that.[00:44:09] Dan Runcie: And no, we will definitely table that one. And I think as. Yeah. No. I have a few thoughts on that one, but as I think about this, I feel like a good way to, to close this one out is thinking about the ROI of these videos. And there's a number of ways to look at it, but with the way that a video is now, what do you think the best way is to measure the ROI?Because of course there's the hard dollars that the video could generate, the impact, but what's your take on that? [00:44:36] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, aside from the things like, aside from the things that are just like hard views and streams, I think it's also about cultural impact, which is kind of impossible to measure. it's about UGC, like how many videos was. I don't know, how many people kind of created their own version or did the dance in the music video, wherever it is.I guess that kind of depends on the video, but I think there's like some element of like creations related to the video that are part of it. and then did anyone dress up for Halloween as that music video? That's the biggest measure of cultural impact.[00:45:18] Dan Runcie: Like Lil Nas X dressing up as Ice Spice [00:45:21] Tati Cirisano: Yes. Yes. And I'm sure there were people that dressed up as Drake in the hotline bling video. the scene that that came out. So, look at Halloween costume sales, all you label executives. No, I don't know it's a really hard question to answer, but I think it's, mix of those and it's increasingly about, how fans are kind of like recreating their own versions of things. [00:45:42] Dan Runcie: Because there's a clear need to, water creates something that creates shock value, but you can't do those moments automatically cuz sometimes randomly it's gun just being gunna and then, Rihanna dresses up like him for her Halloween costume in like multiple settings and stuff, and it's like, oh, okay.I guess this is a thing. Like I don't think he knew that he was putting a fit out there, but you can't always guarantee that that's what's gonna come out, right? You have artists like Da Baby that I think have always tried to do stunty things to get cloud out there, but I don't know if, I've never necessarily seen people try to dress up like him for Halloween in that way.But that's a good one, and I think at first I was like thinking you're saying it in jest, but it's a hundred percent true. Like how are you able to capture zeitgeist? And I think that checking Instagram tags especially, or hashtags or just trending topics Twitter can tell you. Yeah. definitely. [00:46:36] Tati Cirisano: Well, many gift uses did you get of a clip from the music video?[00:46:41] Dan Runcie: Exactly. Or are people creating gifts of you in some type of way? [00:46:45] Tati Cirisano: Exactly. [00:46:46] Dan Runcie: Definitely. Well, Tati, this was fun. We have a couple of topics that I know we'll dig into eventually on this, but before we let you go, what are some things that you're digging into? What should the travel listeners stay looking out for?[00:46:59] Tati Cirisano: Yeah, that's a good question, let me think. So many things. I mean, we have a new report at MIDia that'll be out next month, for clients that's about live music consumers. We did a big survey, with bands in town asking people about their attitudes towards ticket prices and all sorts of things like that. So if you're listening and you're client of ours, look out for that. If you're not and you're interested in it, feel free to reach out. but yeah, that's the thing that I'm working on a lot right now and very excited about. [00:47:27] Dan Runcie: Nice. All right. We'll stay looking out for that. Thank you. [00:47:31] Tati Cirisano: Awesome. Thanks Dan.[00:47:32] Dan Runcie Outro: If you enjoyed this podcast, go ahead and share it with a friend. Copy the link, text it to a friend. Post it in your group chat. Post it in your Slack groups. Wherever you and your people talk, spread the word. 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Transcript: VICTORIA: This is the Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots Podcast, where we explore the design, development, and business of great products. I'm your host, Victoria Guido. And with me today is Brendan Schwartz, Co-Founder and CTO of Wistia, software that makes it easy to find, engage, and grow your audience with video. Brendan, thank you for joining us. BRENDAN: Thanks so much for having me. VICTORIA: And I believe this will be your third time, at least, on the Giant Robots Podcast, right? BRENDAN: Yes, I think this is my third appearance. Thank you for having me back. VICTORIA: Yes. BRENDAN: Is there anything I receive? What is it when you host SNL in a [crosstalk 00:39]. VICTORIA: You get a jacket. BRENDAN: A jacket, yeah. VICTORIA: Yeah, we should. BRENDAN: [laughs] VICTORIA: We should do a Giant Robots jacket or something from returned guests. I love it. So it's been great to follow along your journey here. So, for those who don't know, like, what is Wistia? And I'll say, just a precursor, that thoughtbot is a client of Wistia. So we use it ourselves. But why don't you just give us a little bit about what is the product and what makes it different? BRENDAN: Sure. And thank you so much for being a customer all these years. You kind of hit it at the top, but we help businesses of all sizes thrive with video. And so we serve mostly marketers. To dive a little bit into the history of the business, we'll be around seven...is that right? 17 years. It sounds like a long time when I say it out loud, [laughs] 17 years this June. And, for most of our history, we were, I'd say, a video-hosting platform for marketers. So if you want to put video on your website, track who's watching it, how they're watching it, and integrate that data with your other marketing systems, that was our focus and what we did. And over, I'd say, the past two years, we've brought in that focus to help businesses with all aspects of their video marketing from creating video...We recently introduced a live video product for webinars and for live events last fall. We just launched last week, which I'm very excited about native video recording in the Wistia platform. So you can record your webcam and your screen. And there's also a very simple video editor in the platform, which has been really powerful for folks to make small adjustments to content or to atomize content, take out highlights or sections of things, and to be able to publish them to their audiences. VICTORIA: Thank you for providing that context. And I'm curious if there were any, like, environmental or market forces that pushed you in that direction with the latest updates on the platform. BRENDAN: So, like I mentioned, we...in a large part, our success came (We're a relatively small team.) it came from being focused. And so for, you know, that decade or more, there were a lot of things that we had heard from the market or from customers. Like, live video was an obvious one we had been asked for a really long time. When will Wistia do live? When will Wistia do live? And, you know, our approach to that is we want to be really good and excellent at the things that we do and be focused. And I think that has served us well over the time that we've existed. And some of that came out of; I'd say, the really early days of the company where...it's funny, [laughs] we've always built Wistia, you know, sometimes we say in the shadow of YouTube, so YouTube and seeing YouTube. My co-founder was the first person who showed me YouTube in 2005, I think it was, and that was part of the inspiration to start Wistia. We are both really into video. And we saw that and having video be more accessible on the web, we knew was something that was going to change the world. There was a question...this sounds kind of dated nowadays to say, but there was a question if you were starting a business, you know, let's say, in 2006 or 2007 or '8, right? What are you going to do when Google enters your space? [laughs] It was a funny one for us to answer because we said...well, I forgot when YouTube was bought by Google. It was maybe in 2006 or something like that. Like, Google is already in our space, and it's free. So that was always an interesting challenge. And the way that we were successful there [laughs]...obviously, YouTube is at a much larger scale [laughs] and level of success than Wistia is. But to the extent we have a business at all against a very well-known and free competitor from those early days, it was being really focused on our customers and keeping the product footprint fairly small. Our business changed a lot during the pandemic. There were some obvious things, right? Video was used a lot more. So existing customers had a lot more usage. We saw an influx of customers, people who maybe were late to adopt video in their organization, and then that became a much obvious way that people could reach their audiences and grow. So that was something of a tailwind for us. And then it also forced us to kind of take a step back and look at the market in general with clear eyes. It was a funny moment, I think, for me and my co-founder because in the years leading up to that, you know, it had been like 12,13 years of doing Wistia, and it felt like we had solved a lot of problems in the product. We were still building new things, but they were for the most mature part of our audience or the most advanced marketers, which was pretty fun. But it felt like a lot of the problems had been solved. We were always, like, is the product done? Is the product complete? And when we took a step back and looked at the market, what we had found was that we had kind of just, like, got ourselves into this, you know, more mature corner of the market. But in a large part, because of COVID, so many businesses, existing and new businesses, were very new to video and were using video in new ways. And people who had been using video, their solutions to do that were super fragmented. You'd have one product that is providing...[laughs] You might have a different product you're using for internal meetings, video meetings, and that's different than a live event product, that's different than a webinar product, that's different than where you might publish your videos or host your videos, which is different than how you'd, like, analyze your performance. And as video became more important to organizations, that fragmentation of the solutions was something that was super painful. And we had heard from a lot of people who were Wistia customers and people who were not...having this as an all-in-one platform was something that they really desired, which I was also kind of, you know, we were, like, cynical about a little bit, right? Because if [laughs] you're in the world of product, it's like you can ask, you know, if you had a magic wand, what would you want? And someone says, "Oh, I want it all in one. And if you could just do everything for me, that would be so great." You know, it's hard to say, is that what people really want? And what gave us more confidence at that was, correct, is when we started digging into some of the details and hearing about existing workflows that existed that marketers have to deal with, including ourselves. We do a lot of content marketing. A lot of the really interesting things you could do in a product that is all in one it opens up new opportunities. And you could just imagine...you've hosted a webinar before. Almost always, it's the best practice that you host a webinar; after you're finished, you probably have a good marketing asset there. You should publish it to your website. You usually need to do some light editing. Maybe you're going to take off the Q&A before you publish it. And you put it on your website. And then, a while later, you're like, was this effective? Did it work? And then you have to, you know, probably have a spreadsheet somewhere. You have to go into the tool used to host the webinar to figure out who was watching it and [laughs] who registered. Did they attend? And then where's the data for how it performed on your website? How many people watched it? Did you get subscribers if you were, you know, had an email gate on that content? It's cumbersome, and it's a mess. And then, you know, the most motivated people who are well-resourced have the time to do that and analyze the performance. But then a lot of marketers who are on smaller teams they just don't have time to do that, which means a lot of content gets under-utilized or under-marketed. So a lot of evidence and motivation to change what we were doing and expand the product footprint. So that had us make a big investment in our product design and engineering teams, and we almost...we doubled them in about 18 months. And then that kind of set us on this journey that we started maybe two years ago to greatly expand what we're doing. VICTORIA: Well, that's great. So just to play that back, staying close and focused on your customers almost had you to a point of being stable with your product until COVID happened. And you have this increased demand for video that opened it up to almost have Wistia be like a startup again and create a whole new feature branch, right? BRENDAN: Yeah, that's exactly right. And that was really fun and motivating. I mean, we...that early-stage energy and not having all the answers to things where stuff is a little bit, you know, less-researched, and it's faster paced is something that I really like. That was a big shift for the company. So there was some, I don't know, I think we had some self-doubt a little bit if I'm honest, of, you know, when you've been so focused for so long. Like, can we do this? Like, will we be able to create something really good with this expanded footprint, and what resources that take? And is it going to take shifting the culture and mindset of the team, like, in ourselves? But, I don't know, that's kind of why I started the [laughs] business in the first, like, the adventure and not knowing what's next is very appealing. So that's been the fun part of it. VICTORIA: And how did you go about shifting that mindset? Or even what was the moment where you realized that you needed to go after this shift? And how did you start lobbying everyone around you to get on board? BRENDAN: A lot of those customer interviews and market interviews, we worked with an outside firm. We worked with Boston Consulting Group, who was a really great partner. We have obviously worked with folks outside. We hadn't worked with somebody; I'd say, at that scale in terms of kind of, like, tie-in with our company strategy today. But that was really helpful to have a partner, especially to push us. We got to something different than we had been doing, I mean, not dramatically so. But it was expanding what we were doing. So that was really helpful. It helped...that put some structure around it to what we had, and the whole company knew this was happening and was along for the ride. So I'd say the communication and getting to a clear strategy was something we did pretty well, and telling that story internally. I'd say where we didn't do as well [laughs] and were maybe late to make some decisions is how the culture would need to change to support that strategy. Again, like I said, we've doubled the product design and engineering teams. That is now feeling in a pretty good spot, but that was a lot of growth for us. And was, I'd say, pretty messy along the way. So the beginning, I'd say, was clear, and I think communicated well. And then I feel like in the middle it was, I don't know, a big mess where we got maybe a year in, and we're like, wow, we have this new strategy, but we really haven't executed much on it. Some of these things we're building are taking a lot longer than we thought. Our velocity doesn't feel great. Like, maybe we didn't plan some of this stuff out. Like, we've hired a lot of people, but, like, are they productive yet? And so, yeah, I think we were in a pretty [laughs] tough spot maybe last summer. We were a year into this strategic shift, but it didn't feel like we were really moving against it as much as we had hoped. VICTORIA: It makes sense that it would take some time to change strategic direction and then get to that high-velocity point that you would expect. Were there other blockers that you found you were able to remove to get the team back up to that high velocity on delivering features for clients? BRENDAN: [laughs] Well, it's funny that you say that. I wish; I mean, that is pretty obvious, I think, and obvious in retrospect. But, for some reason, when you're in this, or when we were in this, you're impatient, and you want it faster. And I think probably [laughs] having some clear expectations would have made the ride a little smoother along the way for this. I feel like I have to remind myself of this pretty frequently. I mean, Wistia is not big. We're 180 people or so but certainly bigger than...I can think back to various other sizes. Doing that strategic shift it takes time for leadership, let's say, or me to shift my mindset about some of those things. And then once you've changed your mind, you kind of... it's easy, or at least for me, to discount the time it took and all the information it took to lead to that, which needs to cascade through an organization. And so that's where some of that impatience...or just the piece you said about, yeah, it makes sense that this would take time. I was like -- VICTORIA: [laughs] [inaudible 11:56] BRENDAN: [laughter] You're like, once you've got it, you're like, wow, this is so exciting. Let's go. Let's go. And everybody is like, what are you talking about? VICTORIA: Yeah. My background has been in, like, Federal IT consulting. So you're used to kind of the pace of things being a little slower. And I think people forget that as an organization gets to any amount of size, that kind of bureaucracy tends to creep in. And, like you're saying, the information just needs to cascade down throughout everybody. I think my original question was, were there any blockers or interesting problems you found that you were able to remove and help your team get to that speed or velocity you really wanted? BRENDAN: Yeah, there were a lot. I think most of them and most of the hardest ones to move centered around cultural change, and they weren't necessarily so clear at the onset. And so, you know, one thing that kind of partway into the strategy change that became clear is, and you had said it, it's like going from, you know, basically thinking of ourselves as being in a late stage or more mature market to being in an early-stage environment. And the type of culture that, you know, succeeds in those worlds is different. One thing that we've learned along the way at Wistia that we have employed and I think been successful with is this concept that when you update your strategy as a company, you should be thoughtful and, like, make conscious updates to your culture and values. And so much is that...so you're saying culture is the way that you work. You want that to be in support of strategy. And I remember when I first heard this concept, and we were earlier into our journey. I was like, what is this, like, corporate nonsense? Culture is just this, like, intangible, you know, it's this sum of how everyone works. And it's, like, this beautiful symphony of values. [laughs] It was a more kind of, like, idealistic [laughs] view of it or more organic view of it, which I think is reasonable. But you can also be intentional about your culture. So when we wrestled with that the first time...this was many years ago when we updated. I forgot even what the strategic changes at the time. But we updated our values, and we set about making a conscious cultural change. So when we changed the strategy this time, we did the same thing. I'd say we were a little bit late doing it, like, getting to it. But we did do it. And so some of that was there were certain things...so, for instance, being so focused. We had a really lean team. And we were optimizing for things like predictability of outcomes and needing to be correct. So, for instance, if you're only going to make...let's just, like, say, on the product side. Like, if you're only going to be able to ship or do, you know, a few big improvements to the product per year, like, you're well served to kind of go slowly and make sure those have a reasonable chance of success. This was, like, the culture and the mode that we were in. That doesn't really work very well when you're in an early-stage environment where things are pretty unpredictable and things are moving really quickly. So that was an example of something that we kind of identified, and we're like, we're going to need to change this. So it was this shift from teams feeling the need to be correct and really well-researched about something to moving towards; I'd say, you need to talk to a lot of customers to build customer intuition in order to make decisions faster. But that shouldn't be the case that; for every product decision you need to make, you have to talk to 5 or 10 customers to validate that. You should be able to build an intuition to be able to make those decisions faster, and we should be more tolerant of failure. And so, we should work in a more incremental style. I mean, some of this is, like, super familiar to anybody [laughs] listening to this, right? It's like a more agile style. So work more incrementally, like, work incrementally towards great as opposed to, you know, this big thing that's going to be super polished and correct from the jump. VICTORIA: I think that's really interesting. And it's not necessarily wrong to be so thorough in your changes when you're in that steady state, and you, like, know what clients you have, and you have a pretty well-defined product. But it's interesting that it took quite a bit of effort, it sounds like, to shift back into a flow state where you're incrementally doing changes very frequently to get that new product and find those new customers that you're targeting. BRENDAN: And it continues to be. We've made a lot of progress on this. And maybe it's helpful...I don't know if it's helpful to folks listening to dive into some of the details of how we went about making those changes. It's still really difficult, right? There's a lot of things in tension. So I'd say in our previous mode, one thing we were pretty good about is when something was released, it was well-tested. It was high quality. It was, like, well-communicated. Throughout the org, people knew what was coming. Obviously, there were hiccups with that, but, like, that's the side of the spectrum that we were on there. And then in this mode where we're building faster and more incrementally, we have a lot of internal tension in terms of quality, like, is this good enough? Is this first version good enough? Are we going to make a bad first impression? And so, obviously, you do this for a...it's a set of trade-offs, right? There's no free lunch, but that is still very much we're trying to find the right balance. VICTORIA: Right. So, like, in your role as CTO, how do you make people feel comfortable failing [laughs] [inaudible 17:06] describing. BRENDAN: Some of this cultural change, I think, it's been interesting to go through because some of the properties of how we had been working are, you know, things that are part of the way I like to work. Like, it makes me uncomfortable to release something that you know the flaws in it. And that's an old kind of startup advice that I think is generally right. Like, if you release something and it doesn't make you a little bit uncomfortable, you have waited too long. [laughs] Advice is very easy and abstract. It's hard to apply. Like, there's a huge spectrum there of, like, how uncomfortable [laughs] you want to be. But I will say that that's been something that's been, yeah, hard to reconcile with. And I guess that the piece that I'm able to do in my role is, like, remind folks where we're headed, right? So the first version can be a bit rough. What matters is what happens after that. So, if we're quick to listen to customers, to fix those things, to correct that, and people can see that momentum, I think that matters for a lot. And I think that's, like, something...I've been telling that story repeatedly. Internally, I've had other leaders, and that's what we've really been leaning on is, like, we've adjusted how we're delivering customer value. And that we're going to push things out that might be a little bit more raw, but where we ultimately are going to get them to and get them to quickly is something that we're really proud of. So that has helped. And then, I'd say we still haven't figured out, which is, again, like, in these smaller increments, things can be a failure, and that's okay as long as we learn something and correct and move forward. And one thing that's been a little bit tricky to recognize, too, is there's some places where you have some experiment, and you're not actually sure if there's a market or if there's a need for a feature. So you might do something, and it really doesn't land well. And then you learn something about the market or the customer base and say, okay, that isn't what people needed. But, in a lot of places that we're building product, like, let's say, take live video, for example. [laughs] When we launch a live video product, it may be a failure. Like, the first version may not be completely right or may be a failure. But the customer need for [laughs] a live video for a webinar exists, right? So that's not the type of failure that you go, oh, I guess there's not [laughs] a market there. Or, it's like, you go back and say, okay, how do we need to improve this to make it work? I don't think we have the right language internally around that. You know, there are certain areas where it's like a failure, and then it's like, okay, we've learned not to do that again. And there's other areas where it's like, we're going to keep...[laughs] not we're going to keep failing. I mean, there are goals to succeed, right? But we're going to keep improving this until we get it to work because we know there is a market here, and there is a customer need. VICTORIA: Making a culture where it's acceptable to run experiments [chuckles] and as long as you're learning from the failures. And honestly, it sounds like you all are very connected to your customer. Like, you're talking to them regularly. You're testing out features with them and getting that feedback. And that sounds like that's really what you want to focus on and want your whole team to focus on. BRENDAN: Yes, yeah, exactly. Mid-Roll Ad: As life moves online, bricks-and-mortar businesses are having to adapt to survive. With over 18 years of experience building reliable web products and services, thoughtbot is the technology partner you can trust. We provide the technical expertise to enable your business to adapt and thrive in a changing environment. We start by understanding what's important to your customers to help you transition to intuitive digital services your customers will trust. We take the time to understand what makes your business great and work fast yet thoroughly to build, test, and validate ideas, helping you discover new customers. Take your business online with design‑driven digital acceleration. Find out more at tbot.io/acceleration or click the link in the show notes for this episode. VICTORIA: You mentioned a little bit about your values. So, what would you say is, like, your most important personal value that drives your decision-making at Wistia? BRENDAN: So, like I mentioned, we've changed our values over time when we've changed strategy. And we think of our values as a decision-making framework, not as a set of things that we value. For instance, if you go on our website on wistia.com, I think about/values, about/company. It's somewhere. And you can see our values. It's not a list of everything that Wistia values or even the things that we value the most. For example, Wistia has, like, creativity is something that I value a lot that is very built into Wistia's culture that we value a lot, but it's not a listed value. It used to be at one point, and then we found that as a decision-making tool, it wasn't very helpful. [laughs] If you're faced with a decision, and you say, okay, one of the values is creativity, how do I make this more creative, right? VICTORIA: [laughs] BRENDAN: That's not usually the question you want to ask. So we have, over the years, shifted towards the values are a decision-making framework. And I'd say the one value that has stood the test of time in there is simplicity, which is not unique to Wistia, but it's something that I care a lot about personally. It's served us well as a business. It's almost always harder to get to a simple solution or answer than it is to get to a complex one. It takes a lot of failure. Sometimes there isn't a simple solution, but I think it's always worth the pursuit of trying to find one. And that's served us well in keeping a focused and easy-to-use product. I think that's fairly self-evident [laughs] why that matters to customers. And it's something that I think it's hard to do as you grow, and add, and get bigger. And it's an important feature of the product. And it's an important feature of, I don't know, companies' internal policies or the employee experience. The simpler something is, it's easier to understand. I think the more someone who works inside your company can wrap their arms around more of that context or, you know, more of the product, more of the all the ins and outs of how it is to work there, the better informed they'll be, the better faster they'll be able to make decisions, and the better work they'll be able to do. So, yeah, simplicity, minimalism, those are things I think that have served us well over the years. VICTORIA: Oh, I appreciate that. I could see how that could apply to how you're writing your code, or how you're designing a feature, or even your pricing structure. BRENDAN: Yeah, and I don't think...we definitely don't always get it right. So, you know, all of this is aspirational, but I think it's the right thing to aspire to. VICTORIA: Right. Oh, I'm familiar. [laughter] It's like that, I mean, the Marie Kondo, like, keeping it simple and organized. It's definitely aspirational [laughter] in my personal life as well. But that makes sense. Okay, I have a fun one for you. What is your favorite viral video style that you think people should do more of on Wistia? [laughs] BRENDAN: Oh, whoa. That's a hot-button one. [laughs] I think we have long said...this, like, feels like it takes me back to when we first started Wistia. The term viral and viral video was a new thing for the internet, I guess because video on the internet was still fairly new. I've always been on the side of this, like, hardworking video. And most of our customers are B2B businesses, so these are, like, marketing teams at B2B companies. I'm sure a lot of people who are listening to this have seen some very cringeworthy, you know, attempts at a viral video made by various corporations. Those usually don't land well. There are some people out there maybe that can crack this and make something that is viral through some art and science, but most everybody else cannot. VICTORIA: [laughs] BRENDAN: It's like, not something that can be kind of, like, bottled and captured. So we've always been on the side of, like, be authentic, be yourself, make these harder-working videos. But -- VICTORIA: I think that's generally good advice for businesses that was, like, maybe don't try to just do viral trends...[laughs] Like, make your own authentic content. But you personally now, like, yeah, if you were going to do whatever the latest TikTok trend is, which one would you pick? BRENDAN: You know, okay, maybe here's one. So we have always been, as I described it, on the side of, like, do not do this. It is, like, almost always going to be cringe-worthy. But do you remember...I don't know what year this is from, the Harlem Shake. It was mostly kind of a business trend, right? You'd play this track, the Harlem Shake, and have, like, when the beat dropped, it would go from normal office to everyone dancing in a costume. VICTORIA: Oh, that's fun. BRENDAN: So it was, like, a fun trend. But it was...we were and still are, I'd say, fairly, like, anti-trend. I don't know what, you know, like, contrarian when it comes to marketing trends or things like that. But then, when this happened, we were like, this will be really funny. We should set a calendar reminder to do this, like, ten years in the future. Actually, the last onsite that we had; unfortunately, it was the last day. Our head of production [laughs] who, like, we kind of had this, like, running joke of he randomly saw a news article. I think that it was the 10-year anniversary of the Harlem Shake [laughs] or whatever. He's like, oh, this would be...this is the perfect time to do this, now that it's so, so, so out of vogue. But, you know, people, like, maybe have fond memories of it. And now this is so out of fashion. I think it could be funny to do it. [laughs] VICTORIA: Yeah, right. You don't want to do it just because it's the trend. But if it fits your personality and your business, then I think it would make sense. BRENDAN: Yeah. VICTORIA: I've heard that there might be a Wes Anderson style. [laughs] And I wanted to do a Wes Anderson goes to RailsConf video, but I'm actually meeting this -- BRENDAN: Did you do it? VICTORIA: I didn't do it. I'm not actually good enough. I think tomorrow I'm meeting with the Wistia customer success team. [laughs] I'm going to ask them to help me. BRENDAN: Oh yes, we'll help you. VICTORIA: Yes. BRENDAN: I do like...that trend is nice. That feels like a; I don't know, like, less aggressive. I've seen a lot of those, and they don't feel, I don't know, cringeworthy to me because maybe it's a nice shell in which to put some personality and content, as opposed to -- VICTORIA: Just being goofy or whatever, yeah. [laughs] BRENDAN: Yeah, I don't know exactly how to describe it. But I think that one works better. Yeah, someone at Wistia did that the other day in the office, and people enjoyed it a lot. That was more for, like, internal consumption. But those ones are nice. VICTORIA: Yeah. Well, I like the idea of bringing some of these editing tools to marketing teams where they can maybe not create viral videos all the time but do a lot of very highly editing and having it all in one place as well. Like you mentioned, I do run webinars, [laughs] and I'm familiar with the bouncing around between different tools to get everything to work. And there's even sometimes, like, security issues with different types of video-hosting tools. So I think there's a lot to offer for a marketing team who may not have as many resources to do the individual pieces. BRENDAN: Yeah, that's a story we've heard, yeah, from a lot of customers. And we have a lot of video resources internally because we're a video company, and we invest a lot in that. But even so, yeah, if you talk to folks on our marketing team, they'd say it's hard to get those resources, especially if you have something small that you want to do. I think it's always better if the person who has the need can easily do the thing themselves, right? More and better work gets done that way versus if it's, like, this chain of having to, like, ask other people because then you're like, should I really ask? It's like, do I want to, you know, spend social capital or budget on this thing? Will it work, will it not? But you can be, I think, faster and also experiment more when you have those tools available to you. VICTORIA: Yeah, no, that makes sense. Because I don't know if it's worth [laughs] me spending my team's time to make this Wes Anderson video, but I want to do it for fun. So we'll see if I can do it at RubyKaigi next week. BRENDAN: You should. That's great. That's, like, the perfect example of it because I feel like, yeah, well, maybe not. You might be sheepish to be like, yeah, I'm going to spend, like, ten grand with this, like, contractor to make this Wes Anderson...and to be like, what do you...what? What are you doing? VICTORIA: [laughs] That makes sense. BRENDAN: But if you do it, I think, you know, it's very likely it'll be really well-received, and you'll learn something about your audience. And then that could, like, blossom into, you know, a whole bunch of other things. I feel like that's been the case for us in our content marketing. We've long said, and this is, like, much more commonplace now, but one of the advantages of having a video producer in-house, like, is exactly that you now are employing someone full-time. And so you've, you know, like, maybe knocked off, like, the major pieces of content that a business would make with video, some of the obvious things. But then it's exactly what you're talking about that, oh, we could take a risk, and we could try this. And that's where you learn and figure out new things and things that are different than your competitors might be doing or more creative approaches. VICTORIA: Oh, That's great. You know, something I like to ask everybody who comes on the show, and it will be super interesting since you've been on a few times before, but if you could go back in time to your younger self when you first started Wistia, what advice would you give yourself? BRENDAN: Patient...One funny thing of when we started Wistia, we had really unrealistic expectations. I don't think that's [laughs] unique when starting a business when you're young. But yeah, I was 22 or 23, as was my co-founder, Chris. And we really honestly thought—this is, like, this is cringeworthy to say—that we would either be really successful and, in six months, build this great business and sell it to Facebook or now Meta, right? But that was, like, a hot company at the time. So we'd be wildly successful and sell to Facebook in six months, or we would fail in obscurity. That was, like, our honest-to-goodness business plan, which is so naive. [laughs] And here we are, you know, 17 years later and having a wonderful time. So I guess I would say, I mean, it's the most cliché advice, and you're young, and you never listen to stuff like this, but it's, like, enjoy the journey. [laughter] Things haven't always been easy. And there are, you know, hard challenges and, like, times filled with self-doubt. But even in those moments, if you have support from people around you, if you can learn to enjoy the growth and the journey, that is what keeps you motivated to do something for a long period of time. And usually, you know, people who stay focused on something for a long period of time you figure it out and can be successful. This sounds like the most generic advice as I say this out loud. VICTORIA: [laughs] BRENDAN: It really is. Enjoy the journey. [laughs] VICTORIA: Enjoy the journey. But I think that's common. And even actually talking with Chad a few weeks ago and interviewing him about thoughtbot, is his younger self would tell him to have more fun [laughs] during the whole process and really enjoy it. And I think it's also interesting that you had either the most optimistic and the most [laughs] pessimistic as options and, like, nothing in between [laughter] that you expected would happen. Which is funny because I have people ask me, like, is there still money in building apps and building new products? And it's like, yeah, like, it feels like there's these big people in the space, and they're doing everything you could think of possible. But there's still niche market that you can pursue [laughs], right? And there is still the ways that you can differentiate yourself as a product. BRENDAN: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. What advice would you give to your younger self? VICTORIA: Oh, me? I think, you know, probably something similar. Like, I feel like all of the times in my life where I've been, like, what am I going to do next and been really stressed out about it, within, like, three to six months, I found a new job, or I found something better where life improved a hundred-fold. [laughter]. So I think that's something even now I like to keep in mind is, like, if things turned down badly, like; usually, things turn around in a few months after that, [laughs] and a lot of times for the better. And that's, you know, true with, like, moving to California across the country from DC a few years ago. And yeah, a few other points like that. I think the other part I think about is who I might have invested more time in and who I would have invested less time in. And like what you were saying, like, having the support of people around you, and finding the people who really have your back and support you, and, for people who don't, maybe letting go a little sooner. [laughs] BRENDAN: Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's good advice. Yeah, I feel like both of those things are things I should probably remind myself of more frequently. [laughs] VICTORIA: Right? And have more fun, which means...there's another quote I heard that's, like, when people travel back in time, they're worried about changing a small thing that will affect the future. But people don't think that they can make small changes now that will affect their future big time. BRENDAN: Oh, that's a good one. I haven't heard that. But that's a good one. VICTORIA: Well, super cool. Just to kind of really summarize or go back to some things we mentioned already about video, just how important do you think video really is to marketing in the current landscape for businesses? BRENDAN: I mean, [laughs] I'm a very biased party, but I think it is becoming increasingly more important. I think it is the default way a lot of people want to consume information. This is a whole other tip that we didn't talk about with what's happening in the world of generative AI. And I'm sure a lot of people listening to this have voice cloning and how good those things have been getting. I think it's going to make the value of authentic connections in video much more important in the short and medium term. And there's some challenging questions about how do you tell what's real in an environment where we've gone past the uncanny valley in terms of generating, you know, an avatar of me or you with the perfect voice clone? But I think people are going to rely a lot on video to break through. VICTORIA: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It's going to be just more video world [laughs] as it goes. What does success look like for Wistia six months from now and even five years from now, the longer term? BRENDAN: I think for six months from now, so there's a lot of new areas of the product that we've added. And, in the next six months, we should be able to make pretty substantial progress to have those parts of the product have really solid adoption and repeated usage by customers. I think that's what success looks like, which we're seeing it now for our editors, probably the farthest along, that it has really good adoption among the customer base, and repeat usage, which I think is, like, a really good sign of success for a product. Live is still really early for us. You don't get a lot of shots if something goes wrong with a live event. [laughs] You know, I'd be pretty quick to look for another platform. And that's a pretty mature market where there are a lot of really strong competition. I think if we can get to a place in six months where we've got, you know, a few hundred customers using that every week or every month, we'd feel like we're on a path towards success. And the five-year version, I don't know, we recently started making three-year goals for the company a few years ago that have been pretty helpful to have as an anchoring. We have not made a five-year goal. But the thing I'm very excited about right now and what we're doing is, again, like, live is a small example. The market for live itself is much bigger than the market that traditionally Wistia has been in, and just in terms of video hosting, which itself has always grown a lot over the years. And it's itself a big market, as is video recording and creating video. So we have entered into a bunch of new markets that are all really quite large. And it's pretty humbling to be in a spot where I feel like we have a really solid base with a lot of in-depth knowledge of marketing and our customer to be able to build a really excellent product for that set. We're playing in a much bigger market than I ever thought we would. VICTORIA: It's like, success already achieved. [laughter] BRENDAN: Well, I don't know. It doesn't feel that way. It doesn't feel that way. But -- [laughs] VICTORIA: Maybe next time you come on the podcast, you'll have another success story to share with us. [laughs] BRENDAN: I hope so. Yeah, I feel like that's always the case, right? It's like, yeah, there are moments where we're certainly very proud of what we've been able to achieve. But most of my time is spent [laughs] in the headspace of, you know, why are we so slow? Why is the product not good enough? Why are we, you know, like, all the stuff that's going wrong, right? Which drives you to be better and is exciting. VICTORIA: Right. That makes sense. Well, hopefully, this helps remind you all the good stuff that you all have done so far, too. BRENDAN: [laughs] VICTORIA: I'm really excited to hear about just how your values drive your decisions and then how that goes to the rest of the team and how closely you're listening to your customers, too, on the product. I think those are all just really great cultural examples and ways to build great products. So, thank you for sharing your story with me. And you can subscribe to the show and find notes along with a complete transcript for this episode at giantrobots.fm. And if you have questions or comments, you can email us at hosts@giantrobots.fm. And you can find me on Twitter at @victori_ousg. This podcast is brought to you by thoughtbot and produced and edited by Mandy Moore. ANNOUNCER: This podcast is brought to you by thoughtbot, your expert strategy, design, development, and product management partner. We bring digital products from idea to success and teach you how because we care. Learn more at thoughtbot.com. Special Guest: Brendan Schwartz.

You voted and here are the Round 1 Results! Who moves onto the Sweet 16? We had blowout victories, nail biters and ties! Here were our matchups: Fads: Crocs vs. Hoverboard, Selfie Stick vs. Google Glasses, The Harlem Shake vs. Planking and Jeggings vs. #yolo TV: Work It vs. #FWBL, Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo vs. H8R, Rob vs. Allen Gregory and Dads vs. We Are Men Music: Psy vs. Ke$ha, Rebecca Black vs. The Chainsmokers, LFMAO vs. Robin Thicke and 6IX9INE vs. Enrique Iglesias Movies: Movie 43 vs. A Haunted House 2, The Cobbler vs. Transformers 4, The Devil Inside vs. I, Frankenstein and Jonah Hex vs. The Last Airbender. Find out who continues to fight for the crown of worst of 2010-2014. Slack Tide is now being served in PA and NJ Check them out at www.slacktidebrewingco.com and purchase some of their award winning beer. Come see Chris do standup at Soul Joel's every Tuesday. Go to souljoels.com for more deets. Make sure to check us out at our new website www.digginginthedome.com and join our mailing list. Go to our social media to follow, like, subscribe, like again and so on. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/digginginthedome Twitter: @diggingdome FB/IG: @digginginthedome

This week on Mummy Dearest Podcast Zach and Sloane unwrap 1993's gender-bending crime filled divorce dramedy: Mrs. Doubtfire. This is their longest episode ever but maybe also one of the best? They really take the time to unpack this classic and discuss everything from Pierce Brosnan's back hair to the multiple crimes that Robin Williams commits during this film. Zach reminds Sloane of a time long ago where people had a menu drawer in their kitchen and the duo reminisce about the time Blippi defecated on his friend during the "Harlem Shake" craze. All that and so much more on this week's Mummy Dearest! Support the show

Today we talk about the time everybody did the Harlem Shake.

Own this week's episode, we're happy for Finn! Yay college! We revisit the Harlem Shake, the now-illegal 4Loko, and the coping mechanisms of the Glee club. Idina's back to initiate an audition conversation, better original(ish) songs, and Corrina drops a bomb on Ian. Then another bomb. And, of course, the Pitch Perfect discourse.@gleeaggressive@epicadventureof@ibroskigleeaggressive@gmail.com Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/gleeagressive. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

2013 was a big year -- we had just survived 2012 (the year the Mayans thought the world was going to end), we were all doing the Harlem Shake on Vine, and -- most importantly -- our regular co-host Ben Day became the Executive Director of Healthcare NOW, the nation's leading Medicare for All advocacy organization. In this episode, Gillian interviews Ben about the past decade in the movement for healthcare justice, revisiting the highs, the lows, and the weird in-between shit! Like a lot of folks, Ben Day began his journey to Medicare for All activism as a patient. He was a graduate student in Labor Studies in his 20s when he developed a panic disorder that put him in the hospital and racked up his medical bills. He was so outraged by the experience of getting hung out to dry by the for-profit healthcare system that he decided to change course and spend his life fighting to bring down the system! Back in 2006, when Ben started as an organizer with Mass-Care, the Massachusetts campaign for Single-Payer Healthcare (This was before the term Medicare for All was commonplace in public discourse.), Massachusetts had just passed "Romneycare," a package of healthcare reform laws that became the model for the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"), so Ben got a preview of how trying to reform the system without eliminating the private insurance companies can go VERY wrong, resulting in limited networks and other industry tricks to keep profits high. Of course, even with that insight into how reform unfolded in Massachusetts, Ben and other single-payer healthcare activists were marginalized and dismissed as naive radicals throughout the years of debate leading up to the 2010 Affordable Care Act, as moderate Democrats consolidated their efforts into demanding the policy non-solution that refuses to die: the public option. That ended badly both for advocates of the public option and advocates of Medicare for All, who lost out in the final version of the bill, but it was a positive development for private insurers, who now had millions of new customers lining up at their doors! By the time Ben came to work for Healthcare NOW in 2013, the whole country was mired in the backlash from right wing Republicans fighting tooth-and-nail to "repeal and replace" the Affordable Care Act, which had become a political symbol of the Obama administration. Ben explains that this was a turning point for the healthcare justice movement, as regular people who hadn't been involved with politics before stood up at town halls and listening sessions across the country, not just to defend the ACA, but to push legislators further and demand Medicare for All. Since then, we've seen massive growth in support for Medicare for All, and thanks in-part to Bernie Sanders, Medicare for All has been the top issue in the past two presidential elections, and Healthcare NOW is working with thousands of activists throughout the US to make Medicare for All a reality in our lifetimes. Ben speculates that even though we still have a fight on our hands to win, there are enough of us now that we won't be marginalized or dismissed in the debate about healthcare ever again! Want to help us celebrate Ben's 10-year anniversary and make sure we get Medicare for All in a timely fashion so he doesn't have to do this job for another 10 years? Make a donation to Healthcare NOW today!

Tap in with King Acklin, Big Homie Hoody and Special Guest Ghost St. Patrick as they touch on Cap of The Week and the following: Hitmaka VS Hit-Boi Joe Budden vs Logic Drizzy says Rappers need to send him a Father's Day card since he helped birth their careers Nicki Minaj allegedly crowns Ice Spice the Princess of Rap Is Ja Morant trying to Die Nasty? A.I. generated Kendrick Lamar voice causes concerns QOTD: Is Troy Ave testifying in upcoming trial snitching or not? --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/amor351-king/support

This week, the girls talk trends: Planking. Silly bands. Skinny jeans. OMG. Harlem Shake. Reality TV. Yo-Yos. Mannequin Challenge. Gangnam Style. Tik Tok. But what trend could possibly be next? Rockie and Riley think screaming, obviously. Join the #screamingchallenge now by shrieking in any public place and go viral, guaranteed!⇣⇣⇣Follow Men Can't Drive on IG: @mencantdriveTik Tok: @mencantdrivepodcastTwitter: @mencantdrivepod

Grammy-winning trumpeter, composer, collaborator, and producer Nabaté Isles seeks to bring the groove and movement back to jazz, in order to get people to dance, just like at a block party. Isles, who was born and raised in New York City (Queens), takes an eclectic approach in his music which might incorporate funk, disco, Latin, and R&B, but also reflects the sounds he grew up with: new jack swing, hip hop, and Caribbean music - all in sophisticated arrangements and with improvisation. Nabaté Isles plays new music from his latest record, En Motion, in-studio, with a sweet nod to his talented young person. Additionally, Nabaté Isles is also a producer and sports talk show host who has coveted sports trivia titles to his credit. Follow @NabateIslesSMTA. (Dear Citi Field, it would be magic to have Nabaté Isles play "Narco," as the relief pitcher Edwin Díaz walks on the field for the Mets in the late innings.) Set list: "The Jump Off", "Perfect Cadence", "Harlem Shake" Watch "The Jump Off": Watch "Perfect Cadence": Watch "Harlem Shake":  En Motion on Bandcamp: En Motion by Nabaté Isles

Carlos Tomasini trae los detalles de lo que se vivió este fin de semana en los Eslan 2023. Alex Polit, director de Axon Latinoamérica, nos dice cómo esta empresa ha desarrollado un ecosistema tecnológico. Recordamos el día del Harlem Shake.

Sorry this episode is a little shorter, we cut out the last 30 minutes (a fiver horror story), it wasn't that great but maybe we will post it as a bonus one day.Thank you everyone for listening! Be good, stay safe and laugh at the dark stuff!#Wildman

Bob and Monet discuss viral trends from the last few decades from the Harlem Shake to KONY 2012 to TikTok's latest celebrity death prank.

The 2010s were so fire, so lit, and so cringe, we just had to revisit our five-part series looking at the decade. In the 2010s, we had good times, probably, and bad times too, and pop culture was there to get us through it all. The Pop Culture Junkie Podcast is again bringing you the most memorable moments of the years 2010 through 2019 with our series We Love the 2010s. This week, Alex, Hayley, Nicole and Shauna give their hot takes on the years 2012 and 2013. 2012 was the year of natural disasters like Sharknado, the end of the world as we know it and Honey Boo Boo (is there a correlation there?), the 50 Shades of Grey book and “Gangnam Style,” Magic Mike and “Call Me Maybe” and so much more. And 2013 had us twerking and doing the Harlem Shake, listening to Lorde and “Blurred Lines,” and wondering what does that stupid fox really say? We will feature the Marvel Minute and the Year of Our Lady Gaga for each year of the decade, too. Join us for a look back at everything that made life worth living (or at least, worth talking about) in the 2010s. Soundbite credits for 2012:
 Pitch Perfect | Brownstone Films/Universal Pictures © 2012 
Arrow | Warner Bros. Television 
Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm courtesy The Walt Disney Company
 KGTV ABC 10 San Diego (“Mayan calendar”)
 Magic Mike | The Estate of Redmond Berry LLC/Warner Bros. Pictures © 2012
 Inside the ‘Honey Boo Boo' House courtesy Associated Press
 KNXV ABC 15 Phoenix (“Fifty Shades of Gray dubbed ‘Mommy Porn'”)
 WBFF Fox 45 Baltimore {“Fox45 Morning News Shows Off Gangnam Style”) 
The Hunger Games | Lions Gate Films © 2012 Soundbite credits for 2013:
 Sharknado | The Asylum © 2013
 Orange Is the New Black | Netflix/Lions Gate Television © 2013
 Steve Harvey (“Ask Steve: Twerking”) courtesy East 112th Street Productions
 KSLA News 12 (“Our Take on the Harlem Shake”) 
Pacific Rim | Warner Bros. Pictures/Legendary Entertainment © 2013
 ABC News (“‘Blurred Lines' Case: Robin Thicke and Pharrell Williams Ordered to Pay $7.3 Million to Gaye Family”)
 KSLA News 12 (“Our Take on the Harlem Shake”)
 Rick and Morty | Cartoon Network 
The Ellen Degeneres Show (“Ylvis The Fox”) courtesy Telepictures Productions
 On Fire (This Is Fine) courtesy Cartoon NetworkLinks: Apple Podcast: 
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My guest today is Brandon Martinez (https://mobile.twitter.com/proudlywashed). He is a veteran entrepreneur having previously founded music startup INDMUSIC, most known for working behind the scenes of the 2013 viral meme, “Harlem Shake.” Martinez sold that business to Live Nation in 2016 and went on to run their YouTube business for the next three years. Martinez participated in Snapchat's Yellow accelerator, Transparent Collective, First Round Fast Track, On Deck Founder Fellowship, and is a member of Friends with Benefits. He is currently building SNKRHUD (https://mobile.twitter.com/snkrhud), an NFT-based playground for sneakerheads and their kicks, and FlowScore (https://mobile.twitter.com/flowscorenft), a Ranking & Token-Based Rewards Platform for the best projects on the Flow Blockchain. Show Notes & Topics: Scientific approach for building your personal brand or business Do your own research - you need to find the opportunity you want to spend your time on Create a hypothesis - find a person or company who has achieved the result you want then breakdown the path it took for someone to get there Experiment with the right audience - be simplistic and clear in your presentation; think of it as a series of 1 act plays because reactions will vary Iterate - be open-minded; no two paths are exactly the same so be flexible and dynamic in your narrative and thinking to account for context How do you bring your brand into Web3? Understand the community, and all of the different ways they interact with their common interest - for sneakerheads this was understanding the whales ability to buy a collection on Sotheby's for millions all the way to the individual who only buys fractional interests in top end pairs of sneakers Look for shifts in the culture and identity of a community - collectors in NFT world reflect same behavior of new sneakerheads Grassroots, authentic WOM marketing based on your own identity - Brandon was everywhere, AMA, pods, sharing collection Education - bridging the gap between Web3 and the current landscape - starting with Telegram before Discord to avoid the scammers Embrace the early adopters to help you build the best product Leaning into your blockchain - Flow (and Snap in Web2) provided tools that helped them grow early Tourists vs. Purists - why is your community here? The tremendous opportunity for curating Web3 data Compile the known data, what is on-chain Create archetypes of the on-chain data Understand how IRL data impacts the community Where does the data live? Aggregate in a manner valuable to everyone, from individual collector to entire blockchains Thanks for listening! Did you know you can also watch the show on YouTube? Just hit the link below and don't forget to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmLdoo9oEu2AhkH1cJHemfw (Web3 w/ Me - YouTube)

Hosts Nate Wilcox & Ryan Harkness discuss EDM's Animal Farm moment when the genre and its practitioners were finally accepted by the American music industry. Buy the book and support the podcast.Download this episode.Have a question or a suggestion for a topic or person for Nate to interview? Email letitrollpodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Twitter.Follow us on Facebook.Let It Roll is proud to be part of Pantheon Podcasts.

Vincent Bryant is here and things get off the rails. Vincent is a comedian from St. Louis. He is a writer on the Ms. Pat Show on BET Plus. Vince has been seen on Comedy Central, and he was a JFL New Face. In this episode Vincent and Rob talk about the confidence of a young Nelly, the origins of the Harlem Shake, and Vincent's new Samuel L. Jackson Podcast with Mandal The Mother F*cking Podcast.Denver come see Rob Haze live at the High Plains Comedy Festival Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

We take it uptown this week with our special guest Lizzy Chanel aka the new Ms. Harlem Shake. she walk us through what it took to get there, her new responsibilities, and how often she rocks her sash. Plus of course Tina and Slops run down the usual current events in another cool vibe to get you through the week. Featured Tracks: G Mims - This is Harlem

#158 - INTERVIEW with the Owners of NYC Favorite, Harlem Shake ***** Harlem Shake is a fan favorite in its namesake neighborhood and they recently branched out into Brooklyn to open a second location. I had the opportunity to sit down with co-owners, Jelena Pasic & Dardra Coaxum, to talk all about systems, growth, and what comes next for this 8-year old brand. IMPORTANT LINKS: Harlem Shake Website - https://www.harlemshakenyc.com Profile in Edible Brooklyn - https://www.ediblebrooklyn.com/2021/harlem-shake-expands-to-brooklyn/

#158 - INTERVIEW with the Owners of NYC Favorite, Harlem Shake ***** Harlem Shake is a fan favorite in its namesake neighborhood and they recently branched out into Brooklyn to open a second location. I had the opportunity to sit down with co-owners, Jelena Pasic & Dardra Coaxum, to talk all about systems, growth, and what comes next for this 8-year old brand. IMPORTANT LINKS: Harlem Shake Website - https://www.harlemshakenyc.com Profile in Edible Brooklyn - https://www.ediblebrooklyn.com/2021/harlem-shake-expands-to-brooklyn/