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Welcome to a very special edition of Business of Drinks. In this episode, co-hosts Erica Duecy and Scott Rosenbaum team up with Rabobank's Liquid Assets podcast hosts — VP of Beverage Research Bourcard Nesin and Senior Beverage Analyst Jim Watson — for the first-ever Bev-Alc Debate Club.Today's topic? The question that's haunting boardrooms and bottling lines across the country: What's wrong with the alcohol industry?To unpack it, we went head-to-head in a spirited draft format. Each of us chose what we believe is the biggest force behind Bev-Alc's current decline — and then we debated the heck out of it.What followed was a lively, insightful, and at times contrarian conversation that spanned:

Ben Branson is one of the most creative minds in beverages today. As the founder of Seedlip — the world's first distilled non-alcoholic spirit — he didn't just launch a product, he pioneered an entire category. That category, once niche and unproven, is now valued at more than $11 billion, and Seedlip was acquired by Diageo in 2019, just five years after its launch.Now, Ben's back with a new venture: Pollen Projects, a drinks innovation studio creating a range of unconventional non-alcoholic products. The two early standouts? Sylva — a non-alcoholic sipping spirit distilled and matured from trees (yes, trees!) — and Seasn, a duo of cocktail bitters designed to flavor everything from seltzer to cocktails.In this conversation, Ben takes us inside his product development process — from cold-calling 500 top bars to obsessively studying 17th-century distillation texts — to assess white space for Seedlip. He also shares what's next for Sylva, including a new distillery in upstate New York to make spirits from American trees. That operation will accompany Sylva's existing UK distillery, which is already producing spirits made from British Hazel and African Padauk wood.In this conversation, Ben shares the research, philosophy, and creative rigor behind his brands — and what he's doing differently this time around. You'll hear about the early days of Seedlip, how Sylva's distillation and aging process borrows from perfumery and traditional spirits, and why simplicity — not trend-chasing — is the secret to building lasting brands.We discuss:Why Ben isn't just making non-alc alternatives, but rather inventing a new class of liquidsHis methodical, data-driven approach to product innovationThe surprising reason he chose to launch Seedlip into high-end, on-premise accounts rather than DTCThe innovative techniques used to produce Sylva's non-alcoholic sipping spiritsWhy Ben emphasizes clarity above all — whether in product design or brand strategyWhat he learned from early product missteps — and how he's applying those lessons to Sylva and SeasnWhy Ben doesn't build brands for himself — he builds them to meet real consumer needs with standout experiencesLast Call:In this Last Call update, we reconnect with Issamu Kamide, co-founder of Wonderwerk, to hear what's driving growth for one of the most innovative brands in wine.We first featured Wonderwerk last fall in Ep. 36 Since that time, Wonderwerk has grown its revenue 30%. We discuss:

While much of the wine industry is softening, Treasury Wine Estates — home to brands like DAOU, Penfolds, Frank Family, Matua, and 19 Crimes — is experiencing double-digit gains. In this episode, we speak with Ben Dollard, President of Treasury Americas, who shares “the how” behind one of the wine world's most compelling growth stories.Under Ben's leadership, Treasury Americas grew net revenue more than 22% in 2024, scaling to 6 million cases annually across North and South America. That growth has been powered by a two-pronged strategy: One focused on culture-forward, accessible brands like 19 Crimes (with partnerships like Snoop Dogg and the UFC), and another dedicated to luxury, estate-driven wines like DAOU and Penfolds.In this episode, Ben shares:Why DAOU has become the #1 U.S. luxury wine brand — and what makes it stand out in a sea of premium competitorsHow Treasury successfully integrates acquired brands without losing their magicWhy the company is leaning into consumer experience at the tasting room level — not just as a sales tool, but as a source of insightHow Treasury is using AI to tell brand stories and simplify wine discovery in a fragmented retail environmentWhat other drinks entrepreneurs can learn from building brand pillars and maintaining authenticity at scaleBen also talks about how he's future-proofing the company through a focus on innovation and team culture. Treasury Americas was recently named a finalist in Fast Company's “Best Workplaces for Innovators,” and Ben shares how that same creative energy is helping build a more connected, purpose-led portfolio.If you're looking to build a brand that can scale across channels, price points, and countries — without losing its soul — this episode is packed with insights that matter now.Last Call:In this Last Call segment, your Business of Drinks co-hosts spill on the most jaw-dropping drink they've had this year.Caroline found a tiny importer sourcing neoclassical French & Italian wines with pure electricityScott discovered a Negroni remix in Denver that left him speechlessErica brought a rare Cretan wine to a collector dinner — and stole the showDon't miss our next episode, dropping on June 11.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:YouTubeLinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Portfolio Development Director at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

What does it take to build a breakout non-alcoholic beverage brand in today's ultra-competitive drinks market? For George Youmans, co-founder and Chief Revenue Officer of Hiyo, it starts with a crystal-clear brand promise: a stress-relieving, mood-boosting sensation they call “the float.”In just three years, Hiyo has grown into a category leader, selling over 500,000 cases annually, with +212% year-over-year retail sales growth — making it the #1 contributor to growth in the functional-other beverage category, according to SPINS. With its USDA Organic formulation, a national rollout in 946 Target stores, and a recent minority investment from Constellation Brands, Hiyo is cementing its place as a top player in the fast-rising functional non-alc space.In this episode, George shares:How Hiyo went from a bootstrapped pandemic idea to tripling retail revenue last yearThe role of e-commerce in Hiyo's early success, including a 10X sales leap in year two and 3X in year threeWhy the “floaty feeling” — not just functional ingredients — became the emotional core of the brandHow the team leverages its 500K+ DTC customer base to drive velocity at retail with targeted geo campaignsWhy Hiyo prioritizes rate of sale over door count, aiming for sustainable growth over splashy expansionHow packaging design — based on Californian sunset palettes — became a brand differentiatorThe importance of staying operationally lean while growing fast — and what George learned from early forecasting mistakesHow event partnerships with EDC, HARD Summer, and Breakaway Music Festival support liquid-to-lips trial with over 300,000 festivalgoersWhy George believes Hiyo can be for hard seltzers and RTDs what Athletic Brewing is for beerLast Call: On Last Call, we dive into a new per-capita wine consumption map from Visual Capitalist and the NIAAA — and what it reveals about:Why wine consumption is lowest in the Midwest and SouthHow D.C. became the nation's most wine-loving "state"The surprising disconnect between income, control states, and wine salesWhy tasting room visitation may be dropping in California — but rising in states like Michigan and VirginiaDon't miss our next episode, dropping on June 4.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:YouTubeLinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Portfolio Development Director at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In a wine retail landscape where most businesses are flat or declining, Benchmark Wine Group continues to post steady growth — reaching $45 million in revenue in 2024, up more than 12% from $40 million a year prior. And they're tracking to break that record in 2025! So how are they doing it?! Benchmark is more than a high-end wine shop. Under the leadership of CEO/Owner David Parker, the company has evolved into a multi-pronged wine and spirits ecosystem, with a data and tech backbone that rivals Silicon Valley startups.Benchmark is setting a new standard for what a modern drinks retailer can look like, with operations spanning from BenchmarkWine.com, to Brentwood Auctions, Benchmark Wine & Spirits in Washington, D.C., Wine Spectrum in Napa, and a powerful technology division — First Growth Technologies, which powers Wine Market Journal and Spirits Market Journal.In this episode, David shares:How Benchmark's rare wine focus, data infrastructure, and high-touch customer service helped it thrive while others contractedWhy the company built five complementary businesses and how each arm — from tech to retail to auctions — supports the othersHow First Growth Technologies' data fuels pricing strategy, inventory decisions, and trade relationships in real timeWhy Benchmark's customer base is rapidly diversifying, with 30% of sales now coming from millennial collectors (!!)How the company sources inventory from well-documented private cellars, and what goes into its renowned “provenance guarantee”What's behind the rise in interest for rare spirits, and why Benchmark's D.C. location has become a critical growth engineHow automation, APIs, and AI-driven personalization are shaping the next phase of digital growth — and giving customers better tools to discover and collectWhy David says the company is constantly optimizing for efficiency, trust, and staying power in a complex regulatory and logistical environmentLast Call:This week, we're talking AI, automation, and a radically smarter sales funnel. Alexis Beechen, founder of agave wine brand Ola Sol, is reimagining drinks industry sales using tech tactics that feel more Silicon Valley than traditional beverage. She shares: How AI is helping qualify leads before her sales team walks in the door — with off-the-shelf tools that built a 51% email open rate and 10% meeting conversion. Don't miss our next episode, dropping on May 28.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

What does it take to create a spirits brand that's irresistible to both consumers and potential acquirers? For Elwyn Gladstone, the answer lies in big ideas, bold packaging, and global hustle. Elwyn is the founder of Biggar & Leith, the spirits company behind hits like Malfy Gin, acquired by Pernod Ricard in just four years, and Shanky's Whip, a black Irish whiskey liqueur now sold in 80+ countries and tracking toward 130,000 cases in 2025.In this episode, Elwyn unpacks his approach to building globally resonant brands — from his roots on the teams that launched Hendrick's Gin and Kraken Rum, to creating one of the most original and fastest-scaling brands in Irish whiskey today. With no outside capital and a lean team, he's showing just how far smart storytelling and standout design can take a brand.Elwyn shares:Why differentiation is everything — from liquid to packaging to positioningHow Malfy Gin was built to stand out at shelf with color, Italian provenance, and flavor innovation — and why “lemon gin from Italy” worked everywhereHow Shanky's Whip won over skeptics with a unique flavor (vanilla + caramel + Irish whiskey) and a product story that was fun, not intimidatingWhy Biggar & Leith ignored the “go deep before wide” rule — and built brands in dozens of countries from Day OneHow the team uses a plug-and-play playbook for each market, with toolkits, pricing, and targeted channel strategiesHow Elwyn keeps his team lean (fewer than 10 FT hires), yet executes in 80+ countriesWhat most drinks founders misunderstand about scale, distributor relationships, and brand-building prioritiesLast Call:On Last Call, we're commemorating the 20th anniversary of Granholm, which was decided on May 16, 2005. On Last Call, we're joined by Sean O'Leary of O'Leary Group, one of the country's leading liquor lawyers, to break it all down:Why Granholm helped wineries — but left retailers and spirits brands behindThe legal trends that could reshape shipping againWhere producers are still blocked — and what states to watchWhat smart founders should know about future DTC expansionDon't miss our next episode, dropping on May 21.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

At a time when much of the wine industry is flat or in decline, Avaline — founded by Cameron Diaz and Katherine Power — is breaking sales records. In 2024, Avaline crossed 213,000 cases sold, generated $33.2 million in tracked retail sales, and saw 48.8% year-over-year growth.In this episode, we speak with Jen Purcell, Avaline's CEO, who has led the company to retail dominance. Under her leadership, Avaline has dialled in its retail strategy, becoming a top-selling wine at key retailers like Sprouts, Whole Foods, and Total Wine. They've expanded to all 50 U.S. states, and built a loyal DTC and affiliate customer base — all while disrupting wine norms with a transparent, health-conscious, and lifestyle-forward approach.In this episode, Jen shares:How Avaline built traction with consumers by emphasizing organic ingredients, clean labels, and simplicity over terroirWhy Avaline launched in retail first, grew DTC later, and is only now expanding into on-premiseThe thinking behind early SKUs like “White” and “Rosé,” and why the brand later expanded into varietals like Cabernet, Chardonnay, and Sauvignon BlancHow the team grew an affiliate network of 700+ brand fans who drive sales through community-based storytellingWhy Avaline's marketing team is built with talent from fashion, beauty, and lifestyle — not wineWhat's working in paid ads, social, and influencer marketing — including a focus on UGC and lifestyle content over traditional product shotsLast Call:Do wine writers need formal wine certifications? That's the provocative question we're tackling on this week's Last Call on the Business of Drinks podcast — sparked by a viral Substack post from author Henry Jeffreys. With 134,000 people taking WSET exams in the past year alone, wine education is booming. But is it necessary to be a great communicator? We've got thoughts.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on May 14.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSORS: This episode is brought to you by eBev 2025 — the premier forum for beverage marketing leaders, happening May 28–30 at The Conrad in Indianapolis. Visit bevmarketing.org for more info.The next wave of beverage design is here! Check out Studio Garces at martigarces.es Reach out at hola@martigaces.es and mention Business of Drinks for a free 30 minute consultation. SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In just five years, The Finnish Long Drink has grown from a quirky imported concept to one of the fastest-scaling RTD brands in the U.S.—crossing 2.7 million 9L cases in 2024, up from just 33,000 cases in 2019.In this episode, Evan Burns, co-founder and CEO, shares the story of how he and three Finnish co-founders turned a legacy Finnish beverage — originally invented for the 1952 Helsinki Olympics — into a U.S. juggernaut. With 52,000 retail doors across 46 states, investors like Jay-Z's Marcy Ventures, and a growing fanbase that spans demographics, Long Drink has become one of the biggest breakout hits in spirits-based RTDs.In this episode, Evan shares:How The Finnish Long Drink grew 50%+ year-over-year through focused execution and simple, consistent brandingWhy “availability and awareness” are the two metrics that drive every business decision — and how the team measures cold box placement, displays, and social tags dailyWhy Long Drink keeps it SKU set small — and why Evan believes "flavor isn't innovation"The origin and impact of viral marketing moments — like the #PantsDrunk campaign during COVID and $5 Venmo bar activationsHow organic celebrity interest from actor Miles Teller, DJ Kygo, and golfer Ricky Fowler led to authentic, long-term brand ambassadorshipWhy Long Drink turned down multiple VC offers and focused on velocity-driven growth with strategic capital partnersHow the team grew to 110 employees, prioritizing on-the-ground brand ambassadors and salespeople over corporate hiresThe real reason Evan says they'll never make a pumpkin spice Long DrinkLast Call: This week, we explore the overlooked (and often underestimated) world of fruit wines — and why smart wineries should be paying close attention. States like Michigan, New York, Virginia, and North Carolina are growing incredible fruit beyond grapes, and making some pretty compelling fruit wines. Should they lean into it? We discuss.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on May 7.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

While much of the wine industry is flat or declining, Archer Roose is bucking the trend in a big way. The canned wine brand, founded by Marian Leitner-Waldman, has more than tripled production since 2021, surpassed 100,000 9-liter case equivalents, and is on track to double again in 2025. With its distinct format, irreverent branding, and placement in non-traditional channels like JetBlue, Dave & Buster's, Vail Resorts, and Regal Cinemas, Archer Roose is proving that smart strategy and sharp storytelling can rewrite the wine sales playbook.In this episode, Marian shares how she built Archer Roose into one of the most innovative and fast-growing wine brands in the U.S. — a company that's not only thriving but helping reshape how, where, and why consumers enjoy wine today.Listen for these insights:How Marian built a premium wine brand that's grown every year since launch and now sells 70,000 cases annually on JetBlue aloneWhy partnering with beer distributors was the key to breaking into non-traditional channels like ski resorts, arcades, and movie theatersThe technical innovations that enabled Archer Roose to achieve a 2-year shelf life in cans, thanks to R&D with Cornell UniversityWhy Archer Roose focuses on 7 tightly curated SKUs and builds winemaker partnerships for each varietal and regionHow celebrity co-owner Elizabeth Banks became Chief Creative Officer and helped the brand go viral — while also keeping the focus on the end consumerHow controlled pours, waste reduction, and high-margin glass sales have made Archer Roose a profit-driving partner for on-premise operatorsWhy Marian structured her sales team like a tech company, with dedicated roles for business development, key accounts, and regional wholesale managementHow the brand uses humor and performance marketing to build mindshare across DTC, retail, and on-premise accountsLast Call: This week, we talk about seasonal selling. Are limited time offers or holiday promotions — like margaritas for Cinco de Mayo or Negroni Week in summer — good, bad, or indifferent? Caroline, Scott, and Erica share their perspectives.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on 4/30.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

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In this episode of Business of Drinks, we sit down with Harmon Skurnik, president of Skurnik Wines & Spirits, one of the most influential importers and distributors in the U.S. With more than $200 million in annual revenue, a wholesale presence in nine states, and import reach across the nation, Skurnik has grown into a powerhouse while holding tight to its roots as a family-run, quality-first business.Unlike many peers, the Skurnik team has never chased scale for scale's sake. Instead, their approach has been defined by thoughtful, organic growth — expanding only when the opportunity was right. From rescuing a struggling Ohio distributor to launching what would become their top-selling brand, The Pinot Project, Harmon shares how Skurnik's strategy has delivered both scale and staying power. In fact, Skurnik's sales were up in 2024, while much of the wine industry contracted — a testament to their effective operations and strategic growth path.In this episode, Harmon shares:How Skurnik Wines & Spirits grew from a two-man operation in NYC to a national player with 270+ employeesWhy they still personally taste every wine and interview every employee — even with operations in nine statesThe story behind The Pinot Project, now their #1 SKU, selling 65,000 cases and $6 million annuallyHow the team turned around a failing Ohio distributor into a thriving business in Ohio, Kentucky, and IndianaWhy the company avoids expansion for expansion's sake, and only grows where it can add true valueHow Skurnik positions itself as a marketing partner, not just a logistics provider, for its suppliersWhat makes a good distributor in today's market — and why asking "how many reps do you have?" misses the pointLast Call: We dig into a provocative piece by cocktail historian and author David Wondrich: “Why Is My Drink So Damn Weird?” (via Punch). Erica, Scott, and Caroline debate:

If you want to understand how to build a breakout brand at warp speed, this is the episode for you.In just two years, Aaron Nosbisch, founder and CEO of BRĒZ, has scaled his functional THC beverage company from zero to a projected $50M+ in revenue for 2025. The results so far are remarkable: BRĒZ sold $28 million in product in 2024, largely DTC and via a quickly expanding retail footprint of some 2,000 retail doors nationwide — and the company was profitable after just 6 months.In this conversation, we unpack how BRĒZ became a rocket ship in the functional drinks space, combining hemp-derived THC, CBD, lion's mane mushrooms, and adaptogens to create a new class of social beverages that's resonating with audiences young and old.Even more remarkable? Aaron has built BRĒZ in public, posting monthly breakdowns of the company's financials, subscriber counts, customer acquisition costs, and more.In this episode, Aaron shares:Why BRĒZ is a functional platform, not just a THC beverage — and why that distinction mattersHow the brand scaled to 8 million cans and achieved $28M in revenue in less than 24 monthsWhy DTC was the launchpad — but retail is now the growth engineThe inside story behind BRĒZ's formulation, branding, and “ancient-future” designHow Aaron uses his background as founder of Lucyd, the largest cannabis advertising agency, to win on Meta, TikTok Shop, and AmazonWhy audience psychographics > demographics — and how BRĒZ appeals across generationsThe playbook behind Total Wine sellouts, 87% DTC revenue, and hitting 10,000+ subscribersLast Call: Join Caroline, Scott, and Erica as we dive into the Areni Global report, Rethinking Wine Education, to unpack the massive gap between what's taught in formal wine certifications — and what the modern wine industry actually needs.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on April 16.For the latest updates, follow us:For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

If you want a real-world blueprint for explosive growth in the drinks industry, look no further than Carbliss — an independently owned RTD brand that scaled from a home kitchen experiment to 2.7 million cases in 2024 — in just five years.In this episode, we sit down with Adam Kroener, co-founder and president of Carbliss, to break down how he's disrupting the RTD category with a product-first, regionally focused strategy. Rather than going national too soon, Adam and his team have taken a “narrow and deep” approach, flooding targeted markets with retail and on-premise placements to build velocity and pull-through demand — a playbook that's landed Carbliss among the fastest-growing RTD brands in America.In this episode, Adam shares:How Carbliss grew from 400K cases in 2022 to 2.7 million in 2024 — and why he's not in a rush to go nationalWhy flavor is everything — how Carbliss wins at “liquid-to-lips” and drives high velocity per outletThe brand's unique on/off-premise playbook — focusing 50% of the year on each channel for maximum impactHow they hold distributors accountable to performance targets before expanding into adjacent marketsHow Carbliss built a 35-person sales team to support deep regional distribution and prevent product from sitting on shelvesAdam's journey from cheese co-packer to beverage CEO, and why his lack of beverage industry experience turned out to be a competitive advantageHow a combination of bootstrapping, smart credit, and one key angel investor allowed them to scale without giving up controlWhy Carbliss appeals to a broad range of drinkers — from 21-year-olds to 80-year-olds at the VFW, and what that means for their brand strategyListen in to get Carbliss' growth playbook!Last Call: This week, we unpack an eye-opening chart from the American Association of Wine Economics. Did you know that one supplier controls a full third of the market? And the top 10? They're responsible for about 70% of total case volume. We break down what this means for the wine aisle, and how that's changed over time (we refer to a 2011 study). And we discuss why indie brands struggle to break through; how the biggest players keep growing; and the one strategy that's working for small brands right now.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on April 9.For the latest updates, follow us:For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In this episode, co-host Scott Rosenbaum sits down with Vishal Patel, CEO of James Gin, one of the fastest-growing and most unconventional spirits brands on the market. Founded in the UK by Top Gear's James May and master distiller Hugh Anderson, James Gin has already surpassed $2 million in revenue, with 50% of sales coming from the U.S. — a market not traditionally known for embracing gin.Vishal shares how the brand is flipping the traditional playbook on its head, building a media-first business with over 1 million followers across social platforms, and driving sales through digital-first, DTC strategies (!!). His insights are essential for any drinks entrepreneur navigating today's saturated and highly competitive landscape.In this episode, Vishal shares:How James Gin scaled past $2M in revenue while launching in both the UK and U.S. markets within its first four years.Why the team operates more like a content studio than a traditional spirits brand — and how its "anti-celebrity" tone sets it apart.The data-driven rationale behind going DTC-first in the U.S., and how James Gin expanded from 15 to nearly 40 Total Wine stores in California.The importance of conversion metrics, and how improving the site's 0.75% conversion rate is central to doubling the business.How the brand's flavor innovation and storytelling — with SKUs like Asian Parsnip, London Drizzle, and California Dreamgin' — create buzz and drive sales.Why 95% of James Gin's social media followers are male, but 40% of purchasers are women — and what they're doing to bridge that gap.Why Vishal believes founders must be clear about their end goal before taking investment, and how overextending can derail brand building.Last Call: We discuss the DISCUS 2024 Annual Economic Briefing report — quiz style! Scott challenges Erica and Caroline on the latest stats including which category grew the most in 2024; which category claimed the top market share spot; and, whether hospitality employment has really bounced back?Don't miss our next episode, dropping on 4/2.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In this podcast episode Molly fills her proverbial six pack with tequila, recommended by connoisseur, Jose Hernandez of 4 Ever Acres Kitchen. Tune in to hear this interview recorded in Hawaii!Check out the Boozy Blonde blog for bonus content and exclusive links to what we reference in this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boozyblondes.com/blog/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Enjoy social drinking ? Join the party and on our social media to find out the Drink of the Episode, Giveaways and more:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boozyblondes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/boozy.blondes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/boozyblondes/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@boozyblondespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support us through our Affiliate Links:Winc (wine club) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://winc.mivh.net/c/2968324/584021/9573⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Drizly (liquor delivery) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drizly.sjv.io/c/3042410/841291/9425⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠H-Proof (hangover cure) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lddy.no/126cf⁠⁠

In a time when much of the wine industry is seeing declining sales, La Crema is growing its audience and strengthening its brand by tapping into new communities and leveraging data-driven marketing strategies. The 1.4 million-case winery, part of Jackson Family Wines, has become a case study in how to connect with modern consumers, thanks to bold marketing initiatives, strategic partnerships, and a long-term approach to brand building.Shilah Salmon, SVP of Marketing at Jackson Family Wines, joins us to break down the real data behind wine's challenges—and opportunities. She shares how La Crema continues to expand its reach, including through partnerships like the WNBA sponsorship, highly effective experiential marketing activations, and a focus on under-targeted audiences with real conversion potential.In this episode, Shilah shares:How La Crema has grown to 1.4 million cases annually and why it continues to resonate with consumersHow the brand is attracting younger, more diverse audiences through events, digital marketing, and non-traditional wine activationsThe "leaky bucket" problem in wine — why the industry is losing more drinkers than it gains, and how La Crema is countering this trendWhy marketing campaigns should be built over months and years — not weeks, and how brands that pivot too quickly risk losing their audienceWhat wine brands need to do to optimize digital marketing in the era of AI-powered search tools — ensuring SEO, earned media, and branding are working in syncWhy La Crema focuses on lifestyle moments rather than traditional wine-drinking occasions, and how this shift has driven growthLast Call: This week, we discuss a listener question: “Should a mid-sized wine distributor embrace non-alc, or stay focused on fine wine?”It's a BIG question, and one that many distributors are asking as non-alcoholic and THC beverages gain traction. Hear us talk through the pros and cons.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on March 26.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

What if you could get the buzz without the booze? That's the promise of Nowadays, a THC drinks brand whose growth has been off the charts. Co-founded by Justin Tidwell in 2023, Nowadays has already hit an estimated $15 million in revenue, and Justin says it's on track to double that in 2025. The brand started with a simple but radical idea: a THC-infused spirit that mimics vodka or tequila, giving people the ability to mix their own THC cocktails at home. Now, they're in 5,000 retail doors across 25 states, partnering with top alcohol distributors to bring THC drinks into bars, liquor stores, and even hotels.In this episode, we get into the nitty-gritty of how Nowadays went from a viral TikTok hit to a full-blown beverage powerhouse. Justin shares his playbook for launching a category-defining brand, scaling through social media without paid influencers, and tackling the unique challenges of building a THC drinks business in a world designed for alcohol.We discuss:- From zero to $1 million in 90 days: How a single TikTok post turned Nowadays into an overnight success.- Cracking the THC spirits market: The formula behind their best-selling 750-ml bottled spirit and its tiered dosing system (2 mg, 5 mg, and 10 mg THC).- Retail expansion: The strategy behind Nowadays' 400% growth in retail doors and why partnering with alcohol distributors is a game-changer.- Social media without paid influencers? Why Nowadays bets on organic content and lets consumers drive the conversation.- Funding and profitability: How they raised capital after proving demand and built a high-growth, profitable business at the same time.- The future of THC beverages: Justin's vision for making THC drinks as common as beer and wine in bars, restaurants, and liquor stores.Last Call:Don't miss our next episode, dropping on March 12.A recent study from Oregon State University and researchers in New Zealand found that some consumers actually like the taste of smoke tainted wines. As you might expect, we have opinions about this! Listen in as we debate.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

The non-alcoholic cocktail space is booming, and Mocktail Club is one of the brands leading the charge. Founded by Pauline Idogho, Mocktail Club is redefining the way people experience sophisticated, alcohol-free drinks. Since launching in 2019, the brand has expanded into 1,300 retail locations, including Whole Foods, Sprouts, Kings, and Target, and is on track to produce 2 million cans this year.Pauline didn't come from the drinks world — her background is in investment banking and private equity, where she closed some $10 billion in transactions before pivoting to entrepreneurship. That financial acumen has fueled Mocktail Club's smart growth strategy, taking the brand from small-batch startup to a nationally recognized player in the rapidly expanding non-alcoholic beverage market.In this episode, Pauline shares: How a closing dinner while pregnant sparked the idea for Mocktail Club — and why she knew the market was underserved. Why she chose globally inspired flavors with ingredients like shrub bases, teas, and spices instead of mimicking classic cocktails. Her strategy for breaking into Whole Foods, scaling her retail footprint, and now moving into alcohol distribution channels. How she built Mocktail Club as a mission-driven brand, donating 1% of sales to Water for People and committing to sustainability. What it takes to fundraise successfully in the drinks industry, including how she secured investment from the incubator Pronghorn. Why the non-alc consumer is a cross-category buyer, and how retailers are finally recognizing this growing segment.Last Call:Every month, another celebrity launches a non-alc brand. But does it really work? In Last Call, we break down a Punch article by Hannah Walhout that asks: Are you even famous if you don't have a non-alc drink line?We debate:- Wellness or virtue signaling? – Are celebrities jumping into non-alc for health reasons—or just to boost their luxury image?- Social media marketing – A photo of Bella Hadid in Target holding Kin Euphorics works…but does it build long-term brand loyalty?- Authenticity vs. cash grab – Some celebs have stakes in both alcoholic and non-alcoholic brands. Does that send mixed messages?Don't miss our next episode, dropping on March 12.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: ⁠https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In this episode of Business of Drinks, we're diving into a new-to-world tequila product that's shaking up the industry: Quintaliza, the world's first coffee-aged tequila. Founder and CEO Michael Winters joins us to discuss how he took an unconventional idea — aging tequila in coffee-seasoned barrels — and turned it into a fast-growing brand that's gaining traction with both consumers and industry insiders.Michael isn't just another spirits industry veteran launching an agave brand — he's a serial entrepreneur who built Quintaliza from the ground up, first in his own kitchen and then with a world-class distillery in Jalisco. The brand has already won Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America's “Brand Battle” competition in 2024, and with a deep-not-wide distribution strategy, it's set to sell 12,000 bottles in 2025 across four key markets: Florida, New Jersey, Tennessee, and South Carolina.In this episode, Michael shares:- The origins of Quintaliza – How his background in restaurants, branding, and coffee shops led to the creation of the world's first coffee-aged tequila.- Building a brand from scratch – Why he didn't take the easy route of private labeling and instead developed a proprietary aging process in ex-bourbon and coffee-seasoned barrels.- Going deep, not wide – Why he turned down multi-state distribution deals in favor of a strategic approach focused on building strong relationships in a few key markets.- Winning over distributors and bartenders – The tactics he's using to build awareness and pull-through in a competitive spirits category.- The role of storytelling in brand-building – How Michael's authenticity and hands-on leadership help differentiate Quintaliza in a crowded tequila space.- Scaling smartly – Insights on when (and how) to expand without overextending resources or losing brand momentum.Last Call:The wine industry keeps saying “make wine more accessible” for younger consumers. But what if that's not what they want? Contributor Caroline Lamb brings on Eater's Southeast Regional Editor Henna Bakshi to discuss how private wine clubs in Atlanta are thriving with millennial members — who are paying up to $8K+ per year to join. Find out more about this emerging trend.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on March 5.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search, North America at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Ever wondered how to pack the perfect cooler for a day on the water? In this podcast episode the Boozy Blondes will show ya how to do it. Or at least how they do it. Tune in to hear their top 6 boat day drinks. Check out the Boozy Blonde blog for bonus content and exclusive links to what we reference in this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boozyblondes.com/blog/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Enjoy social drinking ? Join the party and on our social media to find out the Drink of the Episode, Giveaways and more:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boozyblondes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/boozy.blondes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/boozyblondes/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@boozyblondespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support us through our Affiliate Links:Winc (wine club) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://winc.mivh.net/c/2968324/584021/9573⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Drizly (liquor delivery) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drizly.sjv.io/c/3042410/841291/9425⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠H-Proof (hangover cure) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lddy.no/126cf⁠⁠

In this episode, Ryan Malkin, principal attorney at Malkin Law, returns to Business of Drinks to answer listener questions on essential legal topics, like: How far can you go with functional claims? Who needs D&O insurance? What's happening with DTC spirits shipping? We discuss everything from THC beverages and functional ingredients to distribution contracts and risk management. With the beverage industry seeing rapid innovation, especially in functional and cannabis-infused drinks, Ryan's insights are invaluable for ensuring your brand stays compliant and competitive in 2025.In this episode, Ryan shares:- Functional ingredients and health claims – Learn why alcohol and THC brands should avoid making direct health claims about ingredients like ginger, probiotics, or adaptogens to prevent lawsuits — and how to communicate ingredient benefits without crossing legal lines.- The evolution of THC beverages – Ryan discusses the booming category, and explains the legal nuances between hemp-derived and marijuana-derived THC products and how brands can stay compliant as regulations evolve.- FDA vs. TTB oversight – Ryan clarifies when brands need to engage with the FDA (non-alc and functional ingredients) versus the TTB (alcohol formulations and labeling), and how to work with each agency.- Key contract considerations – From co-packing agreements to distribution contracts, Ryan highlights why clear legal contracts are your first line of defense, ensuring accountability when things go wrong and protecting founders and directors from litigation.- Emerging legal issues – Ryan discusses new regulations on standards of fill, direct-to-consumer shipping for craft distilleries, and why THC brands are creating their own distribution models instead of relying on big distributors.Last Call: Caroline Lamb interviews wine influencer Pilar Brito (@BarPilarr). Pilar's rapid rise to 140K+ followers on Instagram and TikTok in just over a year(!!) offers valuable lessons for wine brands looking to leverage influencer marketing. Pilar shares insights on creating engaging content, building community, and forming authentic partnerships.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on 2/26.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineIf you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

This is an essential episode for any drinks brand founder looking to break through the noise and build something truly disruptive. Contributor Caroline Lamb sits down with Aaron Trotman, founder of NON, who has not only pioneered the non-alcoholic wine alternative category — he's redefining what premium non-alcoholic beverages can be. With a chef-driven approach, meticulous ingredient sourcing, and a relentless focus on quality, NON has earned a place on the menus of the world's top restaurants and is now scaling globally.In this episode, Aaron shares:Creating a new category – How NON was inspired by fine dining NA pairings and built with a culinary mindset, not as a wine mimic but as an entirely new premium experience.How to win over sommeliers – The strategy behind launching NON directly into top-tier restaurants before expanding into retail.Breaking into the U.S. market – The challenges and advantages of setting up NON as its own importer and signing a major distribution deal with Southern Glazer's.Why transparency matters – Aaron's commitment to using real, traceable ingredients, and how this transparency has helped build credibility in the natural wine space.Bootstrapping, then scaling – NON started as a self-funded project before raising investment capital to scale production to more than 500,000 bottles a year.Staying premium in a crowded category – NON refuses to chase volume at the expense of brand integrity, avoiding mass retail and instead focusing on independent and regional chains.Last Call:In this week's Last Call segment, co-hosts Scott Rosenbaum and Erica Duecy discuss new products on their radar, from non-alcoholic innovators like Van Sha and Winderton Citrus Aperitivo to unexpected entrants like Sango African Agave, an Tequila-like spirit from South Africa and Cheramie Rum, a new agricole-style cane spirit made in Louisiana.Don't miss our next episode, dropping on 2/19.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host ofBusiness of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm ofBusiness of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host ofBusiness of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor atBusiness of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineIf you enjoyed the conversation, followBusiness of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In the latest episode of Business of Drinks, we sit down with David Duncan, second-generation proprietor and CEO of Silver Oak, one of Napa's most iconic and beloved wine brands. While many wine businesses have struggled, Silver Oak remains a category leader — balancing legacy with innovation, exclusivity with accessibility, and deep tradition with modern engagement. David shares how Silver Oak has grown its devoted following, cultivated multigenerational brand loyalty, and stayed relevant across evolving consumer preferences. Whether you're building a new beverage brand or strengthening an existing one, this conversation is filled with valuable insights on staying power, strategic growth, and community-building. In this episode, David shares: The power of trust and consistency – How Silver Oak has maintained a devoted customer base for more than 50 years by delivering a reliably high-quality product and never chasing trends. Cultivating brand loyalty through experience – From release-day celebrations that draw hundreds of superfans to exclusive partnerships with fashion designers and luxury luggage brands, Silver Oak has mastered the art of cross-category collaboration. The intersection of exclusivity and accessibility – How Silver Oak sells $1,000 limited-edition wine luggage while also maintaining a connected, engaged presence in social media spaces. How to successfully engage multiple generations – With 40% of its consumers now Gen X, followed by Boomers and Millennials, Silver Oak tailors its messaging and experiences to different audiences while remaining true to its core brand identity. Social media as a community-building tool – Silver Oak's Bottle Stories blog and interactive approach to social media create deep emotional connections with consumers, making them feel like part of the brand's extended family. How to build a business with staying power – David's best advice for drinks entrepreneurs, including why patience, brand authenticity, and long-term vision matter more than short-term pivots. Last Call: With the U.S. Surgeon General's new advisory warning linking alcohol consumption to cancer risk, many in the industry are asking: Is this a turning point for beverage alcohol? Erica and Scott unpack the implications of this advisory — and discuss why the sky is NOT falling for the alcohol industry. Don't miss our next episode, dropping on February 12. For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks: LinkedIn Instagram @bizofdrinks Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram @ericaduecy Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Instagram @borkaline If you enjoyed the conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In this episode of Business of Drinks, Scott Rosenbaum sits down with Monique Huston, Vice President of the Spirits Portfolio at Winebow, one of the country's leading wine and spirits distributors. Monique has been leading the charge in the spirits world for over a decade, having quietly developed one of the most impressive spirits portfolios in the country, especially when it comes to agave spirits. Winebow represents brands like Fortaleza, David Suro's Simebra Spirits, ArteNom, El Buho, and Siete Leguas. Monique talks about how she's built a high-performing portfolio across multiple categories — and discusses how brands can work more effectively with their distributors. She shares the “dos” of landing and nurturing a distributor relationship, and perhaps more importantly, the “don'ts!” There are plenty of actionable insights and best practices in this episode — it's an essential listen for any brand looking to grow their wholesale business. In this episode, Monique shares: - The keys to building — and maintaining — a strong spirits portfolio and brand relationships. - Why brands should treat their distributor as a customer, fostering collaboration rather than friction. - How incentives have evolved post-COVID and why authentic relationships and educational investments are more impactful than cash incentives. - Why transparency and preparation are essential in pitching to distributors — don't just send an email without pricing, packaging, or a compelling story. - Why visiting markets and doing grassroots research is critical before launching a brand in a new region. - What comes next? The emerging sub-categories and trends that should be on your radar in the spirits space.  Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Feb. 5.  Follow us!  Business of Drinks: LinkedIn Instagram @bizofdrinks Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram @ericaduecy Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Instagram @borkaline If you enjoyed today's episode, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In this podcast episode the Boozy Blondes fill their proverbial six pack with the Best Reality TV shows to binge while nursing a hangover Check out the Boozy Blonde blog for bonus content and exclusive links to what we reference in this episode. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boozyblondes.com/blog/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Enjoy social drinking ? Join the party and on our social media to find out the Drink of the Episode, Giveaways and more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boozyblondes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/boozy.blondes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/boozyblondes/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@boozyblondespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support us through our Affiliate Links: Winc (wine club) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://winc.mivh.net/c/2968324/584021/9573⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Drizly (liquor delivery) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drizly.sjv.io/c/3042410/841291/9425⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ H-Proof (hangover cure) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lddy.no/126cf⁠⁠

Who's up in a down wine market? Mary Taylor Wine — that's who! This brand is a quiet disruptor, having transformed how Americans discover and enjoy European wines over the past several years. Mary Taylor, founder of the eponymous brand, identified a unique opportunity in the market: bridging the gap between big brands and small growers.  By turning her import label into a trusted front-facing brand, Mary has made terroir-driven wines accessible, approachable, and affordable. In 2024, her brand achieved remarkable growth, up 16% to $20 million in global retail sales, bucking industry trends. In this episode, Mary shares: How Mary Taylor Wines simplifies European wine exploration with consistent, recognizable branding across 47 wine appellations Her innovative approach to offering terroir-forward, low-intervention wines in the $12-$18 retail price point  The key to developing long-lasting relationships with family-owned vineyards that practice organic and traditional winemaking methods Why staying lean, avoiding outside investment, and maintaining direct relationships with her growers have been critical to her success The strategic use of efficient logistics and creative marketing to operate sustainably and profitably  The growing role of trust in wine retail and how her brand serves as a safety net for wine-curious consumers overwhelmed by retail options Find out how Mary's bold strategies helped her thrive while others have struggled. Click to listen and discover how you can apply these principles to your brand. In today's Last Call:  Caroline, Scott, and Erica tackle drinks industry trends in a “two truths and a lie” quiz. What do drinks industry publications say they want to keep or kill in 2025? We take a wild guess. Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on January 29.  For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks: LinkedIn Instagram @bizofdrinks Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram @ericaduecy Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Instagram @borkaline If you enjoyed today's conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In this episode of Business of Drinks, contributor Caroline Lamb interviews Jess Druey, founder of Whiny Baby, a wine brand that's helping to redefine wine culture for Gen Z and new wine drinkers. In a market often seen as intimidating and exclusive, Whiny Baby brings a fresh, playful, and inclusive perspective.  Since launching, Jess has scaled the brand to 6,000 cases in 2024, with plans to double production in 2025. Jess shares the story behind Whiny Baby, her bold approach to branding, and how she's meeting new consumers where they are. In this episode, Jess shares: The inspiration behind Whiny Baby: an awkward date and an overwhelming wine aisle experience led Jess to create a wine brand that's accessible and approachable for beginners. How naiveté can be a strength: Jess credits her lack of experience for allowing her to reimagine how things "should" be done in the wine industry, from branding to distribution. Breaking the wine mold: Whiny Baby features bold, sticker-inspired labels, crown caps, and playful bottle beads that resonate with Gen Z's nostalgic and irreverent aesthetic. How a strategic partnership enabled the brand to scale quickly: Jess's joint venture with the McBride Sisters Wine Company got Whiny Baby onto shelves in 27 states in just a couple of years. Viral growth through TikTok: Whiny Baby's success was boosted by early viral TikToks, helping Jess sell out her first batches of wine and reach a broad audience. Last Call: This week, we discuss brands that are cruising marketing. Join in as Scott, Caroline, and Erica talk about what they're seeing in the marketplace, from La Crema's inclusive activations to Fireball's viral stunt to Firestone Walker's mini-format beers.  Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Jan. 22.  For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks: LinkedIn Instagram @bizofdrinks Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram @ericaduecy Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners. LinkedIn If you enjoyed the conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

In today's bonus episode, Gastor and Shalewa talk about Gastor's happy thoughts, Disney losing a wage lawsuit, and overdue tips finally being paid out to Drizly drivers. Follow The Team: Instagram @SilkyJumbo @GastorAlmonte Twitter: @SilkyJumbo @GastorAlmonte Theme music "Guns Go Cold" provided by Kno of Knomercyproductions Twitter: @Kno Instagram: @KnoMercyProductions

In this episode of Business of Drinks, Erica interviews Rocco Lombardo, president of Wilson Daniels, a luxury wine importer and marketer. Despite formidable industry-wide headwinds, Wilson Daniels achieved over 6% revenue growth in 2024, expanding its sales to $250 million — while the broader wine market contracted.  How did Rocco and the Wilson Daniels team come out ahead?  In this episode, Rocco shares: Why Burgundy, Piemonte, Tuscany, and value sparkling wines are among the fastest-growing categories in the portfolio. Strategic initiatives that have fueled growth, building on the portfolio's strong foundation of family-run wineries, sustainable practices, and deep market discipline. How Wilson Daniels grew from a West Coast-focused company to a national powerhouse with a $350+ average case price for its brands at wholesale. How Wilson Daniels uses storytelling and authenticity to engage consumers with the rich histories behind its luxury wines. Rocco's insights into market challenges, including tariffs, shifting consumption trends, and competition from emerging categories like RTDs and cannabis. Last Call:And don't miss Last Call, where Scott, Caroline, and Erica discuss what they're drinking this winter — and why. The category-spanning selections might surprise you! Don't miss our next episode, dropping on January 15. For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks: LinkedIn Instagram @bizofdrinks Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram @ericaduecy Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners. LinkedIn If you enjoyed the conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and don't forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

As we head into 2025, we're thrilled to bring you our annual drinks trends episode featuring Bryan Roth, director of insights for Sightlines and the consumer and market analyst for Feel Goods Company. Widely respected as one of the industry's top forecasters, Bryan shares his perspectives on what's shaping the future of beverages, from emerging categories to shifting consumer behaviors. In this episode, Bryan shares: Why the no- and low-alcohol segments are diverging and how each is evolving into distinct categories Insights into flavor trends, from bold Asian-inspired influences to the growing embrace of bitter and savory profiles Why young consumers demand both customization and immediacy in their drink choices How RTD beverages are becoming more sophisticated, catering to consumers' desire for flavor clarity and premiumization The untapped potential for draft beverages — beyond beer — as the on-premise market continues to rebound Bryan's insights highlight the key opportunities and challenges for drinks brands in 2025, offering actionable takeaways for founders, marketers, and innovators alike. To hear more of Bryan's drinks trend updates, subscribe to the Sightlines newsletter. Enter the code "DRINKS" on the signup page (https://www.sightlines.news/sign-up) for a free month of access. Last Call:On this week's Last Call, Scott quizzes Caroline and Erica on industry stats, such as: How many new bev alc producers were licensed by the TTB last year? How many new products came onto the market? Listen in for the answers you need to know!  Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on January 8.  For the latest updates, follow Business of Drinks LinkedIn Instagram Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedIn Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners. LinkedIn If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you!

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This episode dives deep into the non-alcoholic cocktail space, featuring Megan Klein, founder of Little Saints. From its beginnings as an experimental product during the pandemic to its current $9 million annual revenue, Little Saints is a brand that's forging new territory in the drinks space with its functional beverages featuring lion's mane and reishi mushrooms. Whether you're a founder in the drinks industry or simply a curious consumer, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss. In this episode, Megan shares: Her journey from corporate lawyer to beverage entrepreneur and how her love for nature inspired Little Saints. How Little Saints uses adaptogens like reishi and lion's mane mushrooms to offer unique effects, from relaxation to cognitive "magnetism." The challenges of pivoting Little Saints' business model, including abandoning costly PR and marketing for direct-to-consumer advertising. A behind-the-scenes look at Megan's appearance on Shark Tank, where she confidently walked away from undervalued offers. Why Little Saints' branding and consumer focus have shifted to attract a broader, gender-neutral audience. As Megan shares in the episode, Little Saints is more than a non-alcoholic beverage brand — it's a movement toward mindful drinking and better living. Learn how she's connecting with customers around the country, and forging a community of superfans who share her vision. And on Last Call, we discuss our “Cocktail Mt. Rushmore” — the top four cocktails each of us would happily subsist on if all other cocktails disappeared. Did the Manhattan, Espresso Martini, and Last Word ascend the peaks of cocktail greatness? Find out. Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on January 1.  For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/ Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks, and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks, and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/ Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks, and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/ Caroline Lamb, contributor:  Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/ If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you!

It's the episode you didn't know you needed! We sit down with Steve Riboli, president and CEO of Riboli Family Wines, to unpack the incredible journey of Stella Rosa, the #1 import brand in the U.S. and a pioneer in flavored, semi-sparkling wines. Discover how this family-owned brand has become a powerhouse, scaling to 4.1 million cases in 2023, a 5% YOY gain, per Impact Databank, while the broader wine industry has faced declines. In this episode, Steve shares: How Stella Rosa's low-ABV, flavor-forward wines are redefining the category and attracting new, younger drinkers. The story behind the bestselling Pineapple & Chili wine, which turned heads as 2023's #1 new wine SKU in America, per Nielsen. Insights into the multicultural and millennial appeal that has driven Stella Rosa's sustained growth. The challenges of scaling a brand while staying true to its roots in tradition and innovation. Why retail activations and authentic storytelling are central to Stella Rosa's success. With over 3,000 tasting activations annually(!!), a commitment to consumer connection, and a clear vision for the future, Stella Rosa is not just growing its market share — it's growing the wine category itself. Whether you're a wine aficionado or a founder in the drinks space, this episode is packed with inspiration and actionable insights. And on Last Call, we discuss the article “Does a Decline in Humanities Majors Have Anything to Do With the Declining Interest in Wine From Younger Consumers,” in David Driscoll's Two-Nineteen blog. Don't miss it!  Link: https://www.two-nineteen.com/blog/does-a-decline-in-humanities-majors-have-anything-to-do-with-the-declining-interest-in-wine-from-younger-generations Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Dec. 11.  For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/ Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks, and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks, and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/ Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks, and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/ Caroline Lamb, contributor:  Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/ If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you!

In this episode, we talk with Tom Baker, co-founder of Mr Black, America's best-selling premium coffee liqueur. Tom shares the serendipitous beginnings of his company, the divine intervention of the "coffee gods" that led him to his co-founder, and how Mr Black carved an unexpected niche in the spirits industry. We track the brand's rise from a small Australian startup to a multi-million dollar company, diving into the challenges Tom faced in the early days, launching a coffee liqueur as craft spirits and coffee culture were both emerging. We also explore how Mr Black differentiated itself from competitors like Kahlua with a product that truly tastes like coffee, and how the brand helped shape the Espresso Martini's renaissance. (The Espresso Martini is now the Top 4 best-selling cocktail in America, just two years after hitting the Top 10 list, per Nielsen data!) You'll hear how Mr Black leveraged crowdfunding to gain early traction, the importance of building strong distributor relationships, and how the brand scaled globally. Tom also shares his insights on managing the operational complexities of growing a business, the role of Diageo's acquisition, and why staying focused on a singular vision helped the brand achieve sustained success. And don't miss Last Call, where our on-air team weighs in with the trends they're seeing in their respective markets. We hear from Caroline in Detroit, Scott in the Washington D.C., and Erica in NYC. From the resurgence of aquavit and savory cocktails to a fresh crop of hybrid drinking spaces, find out what's on our radar! LINKS:  The Four Disciplines of Execution by Chris McChesney, Sean Covey, Jim Huling Brand Mysticism by Steven Grasse and Aaron Goldfarb The Right It by Alberto Savoia Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Nov. 27.  For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/ Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks, and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks, and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/ Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks, and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/ Caroline Lamb, contributor:  Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/ If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you!

Today we're diving into a topic that's not just about sipping whiskey but about legacy, innovation, and breaking barriers in the beverage industry. We're thrilled to welcome Fawn Weaver, founder and CEO of Uncle Nearest Premium Whiskey. Fawn Weaver is no ordinary founder. She's a trailblazer who's not only resurrecting the legacy of Nearest Green, the first known African-American master distiller, but she's also shaking up the whiskey world in a big way. Under her leadership, Uncle Nearest has become a symbol of quality and inclusivity, earning accolades and a devoted fanbase. And it's officially hit unicorn status with a valuation topping $1 billion.  Uncle Nearest is also the fastest-growing American whiskey brand in U.S. history, the best-selling Black American-founded spirit brand of all time, and the most award-winning Bourbon every year from 2019 to 2023. It has earned more than 1,200 awards and was named "World's Best" two years in a row. This is a tale you need to hear to believe. Fawn's story is a masterclass in how vision, determination, and authentic storytelling can disrupt even a centuries-old industry like American whiskey.  We discuss: The No. 1 most important skill for a drinks brand founder to nail How Fawn navigated the roadblocks she faced as a Black woman founder in whiskey How Uncle Nearest raised $225 million in funding from private investors How to build a mission-driven brand – and the advantages of doing so Fawn's iconoclastic approach to brand storytelling And much, much more! Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Nov. 13.  For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/ Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks, and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks, and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/ Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks, and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/ Caroline Lamb, contributor:  Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/ If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you!

In this episode, we're joined by Brandon Joldersma, CEO of Surely and Arlow, two exciting players in the non-alcoholic and low-alcohol wine space. Brandon brings a wealth of experience from the beverage industry, having worked in restaurants, hard cider, and whiskey before taking the reins at Surely. We discuss Surely's origin story, its growth strategies, and its transition from direct-to-consumer to national retail on the path to racking up $20 million in sales over the past three years.  Then we dive into the recent launch of Arlow, a groundbreaking low-alcohol brand, offering wines at 6.5% ABV. Low-alcohol wines are an area of anticipated growth for the wine category in the coming years, with volumes predicted to grow at a CAGR of +14% between now and 2027, according to IWSR. Arlow is leveraging a first-mover advantage to build sales and brand recognition for its growing audience of affluent, health-conscious Millennial consumers. Some key takeaways: • The non-alcoholic and low-alcohol wine market is growing rapidly, driven by consumers seeking to moderate their alcohol consumption. • Creating a new category (like truly low-alcohol wine) can provide a first-mover advantage, but also requires significant consumer education. • Transitioning from direct-to-consumer (DTC) to retail distribution can significantly boost revenue, but requires careful planning and execution. • Product development in the non-alcoholic wine space is especially challenging, requiring innovative approaches to replicate the taste and experience of traditional wine. • Transparency in ingredient labeling and a focus on health and wellness can be key differentiators in the market. • The target demographic for non-alcoholic and low-alcohol wines tends to be affluent millennials who are health-conscious but still enjoy drinking occasionally. • Influencer marketing and in-person tastings ("liquid to lips") are crucial strategies for building brand awareness and trust. • Securing national retail accounts can provide substantial growth opportunities, but these partnerships take time and strategic pitching. • Also, one KEY MISTAKE not to make when launching a drinks brand. Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Oct. 30. LINKS: Is the bev-alc slump part of a cyclical slowdown? See what Time magazine had to say, way back in 1986! https://time.com/archive/6706878/blithe-spirits-for-the-sober-set/ And join the debate on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erica-duecy-4a35844_ready-for-a-mind-blowing-moment-would-activity-7234563401622900737-hR8Y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/ Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks, and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks, and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/ Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks, and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/ Caroline Lamb, contributor:  Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/ If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes.

Welcome to the Business of Drinks podcast. Today we're joined by Erik Segelbaum, founding partner of SWIG Partners, to discuss the complex world of beverage alcohol distribution in the United States.  Erik brings over 20 years of industry experience, having worked his way up from chef to sommelier overseeing $100 million in annual beverage sales across 42 restaurants. Now, as a leading beverage consultant and co-founder of SWIG Partners, he helps brands navigate the challenging three-tier distribution system in the U.S. But before we get too far, a declaration of conflict of interest. SWIG Partners will be coming on as a sponsor for future episodes of Business of Drinks. Just to be clear, though, this episode was BOD's idea, and was in the works before that agreement. In this episode, we explore: The inspiration behind launching SWIG Partners and the gap it fills in the marketplace. Current trends and issues in the distribution landscape. Challenges brands face when attempting cold outreach to distributors. The best regional markets to target for launching new brands. The state of the three-tier system — and whether there's truly a bottleneck in distribution. What distributors are looking for in the brands they're picking up. Why focusing on relationships — not transactions — is the key to long-term success. The growing demand for low- and no-alcohol products in distributor portfolios. Erik shares invaluable insights on what distributors and importers are looking for in brand partnerships, common pitfalls to avoid, and how SWIG acts as a matchmaker between brands and distributors.  Whether you're a foreign brand looking to enter the U.S. market or a domestic producer seeking wider distribution, this episode offers a ton of insights on strategically growing your brand's presence.  SPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their service fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinks Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on October 16.  For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/ Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks, and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks, and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/ Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks, and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/ Caroline Lamb, contributor:  Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/ If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you

 Looking to raise funds? You're in luck. Today we're talking with Kat Weaver, co-founder of Power To Pitch. She's a top pitching coach who's helped hundreds of startups raise capital.  Kat was able to scale and sell her first company she started out of her college dorm room. After winning 22 of 23 pitches she entered, she founded Power To Pitch to help founders build a winning pitch, deck, and fundraising strategy to help them get funded faster. To date, Power To Pitch has helped founders raise over $25 million in grants and venture capital. As we discuss, there are so many mistakes founders make when raising funds — from failing to discuss monetization to pitching investors as if they were potential customers. Understanding what's important to investors is key to Power to Pitch's program. Kat and her business partner Katie Dunn help bridge the gap by helping startups learn the art and science of pitching.  Get a leg up on the competition with these key insights! We discuss:  How to approach storytelling and craft a compelling narrative Maintaining a consistent core message while tailoring pitches to different investors The most important metrics to include in your investor deck Best practices for preparing for your pitch How to handle tough questions The role of product samples in investor meetings How to follow up effectively after a pitch How to create a connection and build rapport with investors What to expect when you're pitching different types of investors How to approach potential new investors And Power To Pitch has extended a discount code for Business of Drinks listeners: For $50 off the Grant Program that shares over 200+ grants per month: https://www.powertopitch.com/offers/TogBrmEa?coupon_code=BIZOFDRINKS50 For $250 off the Investor Prep Program, apply here: https://www.powertopitch.com/apply Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Oct. 2.  Show links: https://www.numerator.com/resources/blog/non-alcoholic-beverage-trends/ For the latest updates, follow us: Business of Drinks LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/ Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks, and one of the drinks industry's most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks, and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.   https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/ Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks, and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/ Caroline Lamb, contributor:  Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/ If you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you're listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you!

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Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! To start things out, the household gets together to talk about the conclusion of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig not being nominated at The Oscars. Then, we are joined by Taylor Ann Green to talk about all of the drama between her, Shep, Austen, and Olivia. We get her thoughts on our interview with Olivia, the timeline of her and Austen's drunken kiss, behind the scenes of filming, and where things stand today. Finally, we have two Texting Office Hours callers who have been invited on a bachelorette trip that's out of their budget - an anonymous donor has come forward offering to pay the difference, but they don't know if they should accept.  “You have a habit of seeking validation from toxic places.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Drizly - Is your January looking dry? Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com Must be 21+, not available in all locations. Hungryroot - Right now, Hungryroot is offering The Viall Files listeners 40% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to https://www.Hungryroot.com/viall to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Rocket Money - Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.RocketMoney.com/VIALL  Sundays For Dogs - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.sundaysfordogs.com/VIALL or use code VIALL at checkout. Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @tayloranngreen@alison.vandam @dereklanerussell @leahgsilberstein

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! First, the household gets together to talk about the premiere of the Bachelor, our first thoughts on the women this season, and our predictions for Joey! We also talk Housewives and recap Episode 4 of Traitors. Then, we are joined by Kylee Russell to get the exclusive tell-all of what happened between her and Aven following last season of Bachelor in Paradise - we have photos, text receipts, and what's next for the two of them. Finally, we hear from a Texting Office Hours caller who just ended two messy situationships and is skeptical about finding something drama-free. “Why did you think you wouldn't get caught?” Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Brooklinen - Start the year off right by investing in yourself with Brooklinen's sleep and self-care essentials. Visit in-store or online at https://www.Brooklinen.com and use code VIALL for $20 off your order of $100 or more. StitchFix - Try today at https://www.StitchFix.com/Viall and you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix. Drizly - Is your January looking dry? Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com  Drizly is the go-to app for alcohol delivery. Must be 21+, not available in all locations. OUAI - Give your hair a glow-up with OUAI. Go to https://www.THEOUAI.com and use promo code VIALL for 15% off any product. Manscaped - Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code VIALL at https://www.Manscaped.com  Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @kyleeemarie @nnataliejjoy @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell @leahgsilberstein  

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! To start things out, the household gets together to talk about Taylor Swift's second cousin, Jason Kelce retiring from the NFL, and Vanderpump Villa (with some insider tea from the casting process). Then, we are joined by Allison Holker to talk about her year since the passing of her husband, Stephen “tWitch” Boss. She's able to enlighten us about her grief journey, and what she is looking forward to in 2024. We also talk about her children's book “Keep Dancing Through,” that she and Stephen wrote before he passed. Allison also gives Nick and Natalie some parenting and childbirth advice before we have a Texting Office Hours caller who is struggling after a breakup and debating reaching out to her ex to get answers. “Something that happens to you does not define you.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Chomps - Right now, Chomps is offering our listeners 20% off your first order and free shipping when you go to https://www.Chomps.com/VIALL  EveryPlate - Get a meal for $1.49 PLUS $1 steaks for life by going to https://www.EveryPlate.com/podcast and entering code 49viall. Subscription must be active to qualify and redeem $1 steak.” Vuori - Not only will you receive 20% off your first purchase, but enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns. Go to https://www.vuori.com/viall and discover the versatility of Vuori Clothing. Drizly - Is your January looking dry? Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com Must be 21+, not available in all locations. Apostrophe Skincare - We have a special deal for our audience: Get your first visit for only five dollars at https://www.Apostrophe.com/VIALL when you use our code: VIALL. That's a savings of fifteen dollars! This code is only available to our listeners. Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @allisonholker @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell @leahgsilberstein

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! Today we are joined by Gabby Windey to talk about all things reality TV. First, we talk about Gabby's thoughts on the Clayton paternity scandal and his recent episode with us. Then, we talk about some recent Vanderpump Rules headlines, and the women on the View telling Taylor Swift to smile. Then, we talk about Housewives - Salt Lake City, Beverly Hills, and Miami. We finish by talking about Natalie's pregnancy, wedding updates, and their honeymoon.  “It's worse case scenario after worst case scenario.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Brooklinen - So start the year off right by investing in yourself with Brooklinen's sleep and self-care essentials.  Visit in-store or online at https://www.Brooklinen.com and use code VIALL for $20 off your order of $100 or more. Drizly - Is your January looking dry? Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com  Drizly is the go-to app for alcohol delivery. Must be 21+, not available in all locations. Hinge - Manifest the dating experience you want this year - Download Hinge and find someone worth deleting the app for. Grammarly - Start being more productive at work. Go to https://www.grammarly.com/PODCAST to download for FREE today. Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @gabby.windey @nnataliejjoy @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell   

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! To start things out, we talk about the response to our interview with Gypsy Rose, and Nick and Natalie's experience at the premiere party in New York. Then, we are joined by Clayton Echard to talk about his recent paternity scandal and get his side of the story - he walks us through each moment and answers all of our burning questions. We have timelines, text and email receipts, and a man ready to defend his character.  “My character has been attacked, again.”   Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Article - Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. To claim, visit https://www.ARTICLE.COM/viall and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout.  Drizly - Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com Must be 21+, not available in all locations.  Hinge - Manifest the dating experience you want this year - Download Hinge and find someone worth deleting the app for. Vessi - Ready to embrace your new year with style and comfort? Check out Vessi's spectacular collection at https://www.vessi.com/VIALL  Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @claytonechard @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell  Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 17:38 - Clayton, Welcome 19:43 - Clayton's Side Of The Story 01:59:05 - What's Next? 02:13:15 - Outro 

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! To start things out, we have to break down the recent drama on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City - from Monica to Heather and everything that is revealed about the Instagram troll account. Then today we are joined by Katie Maloney and Dayna Kathan to talk about their new podcast Disrespectfully! We also dive into their dating life, a recent party that created some drama, and Vanderpump Rules Season 11 tea and predictions. Finally, we have a Texting Office Hours caller who isn't sure if she should stay in a loveless marriage or file for divorce.  “I was collecting hickeys like Pokemon.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Hinge - Manifest the dating experience you want this year - Download Hinge and find someone worth deleting the app for. Drizly - Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com Must be 21+, not available in all locations. Hungryroot -  Go to https://www.Hungryroot.com/viall to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies for life. Rocket Money - Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.RocketMoney.com/VIALL  One Skin -  Get 15% off OneSkin with the code VIALL at https://www.oneskin.co/  #oneskinpod Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @musickillskate @dadadayns @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell 

Welcome back to The Viall Files! Today we have another special “where are they now” update show where we give you updates from our past callers to see what's happened in their situations and relationships since appearing on the show.  We bring on our first caller who had originally called in about a guy friend who was getting a little too close to be ‘just friends.' Our caller sent a text, and we find out on this call whether he's gay or just friendly. Our second caller first called in because she broke up her engagement, but was missing her ex. We discover how she's set her boundaries of needing full clarity, and his efforts to hold her back. Our third caller, who we've seen many times, first called in for giving too many blowjobs, with no pleasure in return. She updates us on trying to pursue genuine relationships over empty sexual interactions. Oh, and someone has a penis infection?! We also have some written updates - our caller whose boyfriend's business was ruining her relationship, our caller who's dating someone her sister had a threesome with, and our caller who's friend wouldn't stop kissing her baby on the lips.  To catch up on all of these callers original questions please see the show numbers:   Original Episode numbers for callers: Episode 681: Ask Nick with Lewis Howes - She Slept With My Roommate Episode 669: Ask Nick - I Need to Stop a Wedding in 2 Weeks Episode 659: Ask Nick Updates Special Episode - Part 13 (Original appearance on Episode 583 Vanderpump Recap with Gabby Windey)  Original Episode numbers for written updates: Episode 666: Ask Nick - My Gay BFF Is in Love With Me Episode 646: Ask Nick Updates Special Episode - Part 12 (Original appearance on Episode 640 Ask Nick - Everyone Caught Feelings During Threesome) Episode 629: Going Deeper w Teddi Mellencamp Plus Bethenny's Cause, Scooter Braun's Loss & Taylor Swift's “Don't create situations just for the sake of it.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://www.viallfiles.supportingcast.fm  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes.  To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Quince - For free shipping and 365-day returns, go to https://www.quince.com/viall  Drizly - Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.drizly.com. Go-to app for alcohol delivery. Must be 21+, not available in all locations. Rocket Money - Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.rocketmoney.com/viall  Odd Pieces - Head over to https://www.oddpieces.com/viall and treat yourself to an exclusive 15% off with code VIALL. IQ BAR - Our special podcast listeners get twenty percent off all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your twenty percent off, just text FILES to sixty-four thousand. That's 64000. Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell

Welcome back to another episode of The Viall Files: Ask Nick Edition! We're back to answer your burning questions about the world of dating and relationships. Before getting to our callers, we read an email from a listener who's wondering if she should confront the guy she's dating over following a ton of naked girls.  Then, we get to our callers.  Our first caller's landlord is cheating on her girlfriend, and our caller is wondering if she should tell her. For context, the landlord's previous relationship broke up due to infidelity as well… but is it our caller's place to step in? Our second caller hasn't found love nor dated anyone since coming out. He's not into the hookup experiences of gay culture, and last dated a woman. Our final caller is looking for advice on how to return her ex's things. This was a year long situationship, that ended when she saw him with another girl at the bar. She's afraid he'll beg for her back. “Sometimes breakups have to be black or white.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes.  To Order Nick's Book Go To: https://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice, send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line!  To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Chomps - With thousands of five-star reviews, snackers around the world have satisfied their hunger cravings with Chomps. Right now, Chomps is offering our listeners 20% off your first order and free shipping when you go to https://www.Chomps.com/VIALL  Vessi Footwear - Go to the link, https://www.vessi.com/VIALL for 15% off your first order! Free shipping to CA, US, AU, JP, TW, KR, SGP. Squeezed.com - Get Same day local delivery or Free Fast delivery nationwide by going to http://www.Squeezed.com and using code VIALL. Drizly - From holiday cocktail staples to new seasonal flavors, find all of your holiday drinks on Drizly. Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com Must be 21+, not available in all locations. Lume Deodorant - Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @lumedeodorant and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code VIALL at LumeDeodorant.com! #lumepod Apostrophe Skincare - We have a special deal for our audience: Get your first visit for only five dollars at https://www.Apostrophe.com/VIALL when you use our code: VIALL. That's a savings of fifteen dollars! This code is only available to our listeners. Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @alison.vandam  @dereklanerussell