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James Pardieu and Richard McChinak, co-chairmen of the Battle of the Brews 2025 join Steve Jaxon and Herlinda Heras on Brew Ha Ha. Richard was in the studio last year on this episode to promote the same event. Battle of the Brews 2025 will be Saturday April 12 from 1-5 PM at the Sonoma County Fairgrounds. This year marks the 25th annual event. It is sponsored by the Active 20-30 Club of Santa Rosa, a charity organization for persons between age 20 and 39. Members age out at 40, so there are always new people on the scene. More than half of the event is about BBQ now. There is also cider, Kombucha and mead. Herlinda is judging the beer competition in the morning, for the 11th or 12th year. The first time she remembers being the only female judge, but that's not the case anymore. Admission is $95 which includes all you can eat and all you can drink, responsibly! All the money raised goes to serve underprivileged youth in Sonoma County. Last year they raised over $72,000 and they have totaled over 1.5 million dollars over the last several years. The club uses the funds they raise for many local charities targeting youth. The have contributed to the Children's Museum of Sonoma County. Each member also participates in shopping for school supplies, benefiting over 200 kids last time. There are constant needs. "If there's a need, we're here to fill it.” Each chapter has their own area that they support. Visit our sponsor Pizzaleah in Windsor for the finest pizza menu and the most authentic flavors around!

“There's a fox in the henhouse!”  If you hear that phrase you know that it's describing a situation that's ominous.  Despite the treachery of the Pharisees, and their feigned warning to Jesus to avoid Jerusalem for His safety, Jesus did not let anything deter Him from His appointment with the cross. Wait until you hear the reason why!

Second Sunday in LentText: Luke 13: 31-35

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On Hacking Humans, this week Dave Bittner is on vacation so our two hosts Joe Carrigan, and Maria Varmazis (also host of N2K's daily space podcast, T-Minus), are sharing the latest in social engineering scams, phishing schemes, and criminal exploits that are making headlines. We start off the show with some follow-up from a long-time listener who shared how switching to Publii and Cloudflare Pages saved his wife's psychiatric nurse practice over $120/year in hosting costs after discovering static site generators on Hacking Humans. Joe's story is on a warning from an Oregon woman who fell victim to an online scam while trying to buy hens for her backyard chicken coop amid egg shortages caused by the bird flu, urging others to be cautious and avoid transactions on social media. Maria has the story on the increasing threats targeting sellers on online marketplaces, including phishing campaigns, scams designed to bypass platform protections, and the risks associated with off-platform transactions, all of which emphasize the need for heightened vigilance and security measures. The catch of the day, from Scott, highlights an email invitation that appeared legitimate but redirected to a phishing site designed to steal email credentials, with Scott's wife recognizing the suspicious nature and forwarding it for further investigation. Resources and links to stories: ‘Be suspicious': Sweet Home woman warns of chicken scam amid egg shortage Your item has sold! Avoiding scams targeting online sellers You can hear more from the T-Minus space daily show here. Have a Catch of the Day you'd like to share? Email it to us at hackinghumans@n2k.com.

Adam Ray, founder of the Santa Rosa Beer City Festival, and Colin McDonald from HenHouse join Steve Jaxon and Herlinda Heras on Brew Ha Ha. Also in the studio is Ryan Silva, winner of the golden growler. Colin was on Brew Ha Ha last June 13, 2024, when HenHouse was getting ready for the Freshtival. Adam Ray is the founder of Beer City Festival, Colin McDonald is here from HenHouse for the annual Big Chicken release, and Ryan Silva won the Golden Growler trophy, which he has broght. Beer City was born in Santa Rosa, THEE Beer City. There is a running event in the morning then a party in the afternoon. HenHouse is participating in Beer City and also in the Santa Rosa Beer Passport. They can't have Big Chicken on Saturday, it will only be at the brewery that day. Big Chicken is HenHouse's once-a-year special IPA. After Saturday it will be available in all their retail locations. Racing and Drinking Beer, or Just Drinking Beer There is a series of four of races at all the four different Beer City locations. There are races for 5K, 10K and half marathon. Runners can gain points by running more races for longer distance at better times. They announce the overall men's and women's winners at the end of the last day of races. Ryan won the giant growler as the overall men's winner last year. New this year is Race the Rex, a person in a dinosaur costume. You run a lap and take a drink. If the T Rex catches you, you're out. If you lose your cookies, you're out. It sounds very complicated, but they will have ushers and judges. Colin explains the mission of Big Chicken. Every year the recipe changes. Steve says it's delicious. Colin says they try to bring to every Big Chicken all that they learned about making hoppy beer during the last year. They are using special hops which are cryogenically extracted so that the beer is “oily” with hop flavor. Big Chicken The Big Chicken they are tasting was tapped off the main tank about 15 minutes ago. They are celebrating 13 years at HenHouse. Colin realizes that places him in the generation of distinguished elder craft brewers. 95% of their beer is sold in the bay area. Mark Carpenter, “a living legend” former BHH co-host and Anchor brewer, loves HenHouse. Take the Smart Train, it's sponsored and is there to help you get around while you enjoy Beer City Festival and while you fill out your Beer Passport. Visit Santa Rosa is a sponsor. Every Beer City attracts 60% visitors from out of county.

Author, podcaster and reader Daisy Buchanan joins Kate to discuss Read Yourself Happy, her latest book that explores ‘shelf-help' and the healing power of books and reading to inspire, comfort and fortify. You might not think that someone who regularly interviews literary stars like Anne Patchett and Lauren Groff on her podcast 'You're Booked' might also be someone who has struggled throughout her life with anxiety. Find out how books helped Daisy overcome her fears and inspired her to be adventurous in the manner of her favourite literary heroines. We also discuss the practicalities of the reading life, how to manage a mountainous TBR, and insider stories from the Jilly Cooper book club. With Valentine's Day in mind, find out how to 'Read Yourself Romantic' with Daisy's favourite romance novels. Oh, and you'll get about a million other brilliant book recommendations along the way! Notes If you're interested to try a Serious Readers lamp use our special offer code BCR at checkout for £150 off any HD light. Looking for your perfect bookish match? Use our offer code BookClubReview for 10% off a subscription to Book Lovers Dating. Reading list The Flatshare by Beth O'Leary Strange Beach by Oliwaseun Olawiola The Pirahna Club: Power and Influence in Formula 1 by Timothy Collings (my husband's book, by the way, in case you were wondering. He's been dipping in for something he's working on.) Rachel's Holiday by Marian Keyes Love, Nina by Nina Stibbe Happy All the Time by Laurie Colwin The Girl with the Louding Voice by Abi Daré A Little Life by Hanya Yanigahara Everything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton Rivals by Jilly Cooper The Come Up by Jonathan Abrams I Want my MYV by Rob Tannenbaum Uncommon People by Miranda Sawyer Early Morning Riser by Katherine Heiny Us by David Nicholls Good Material by Dolly Alderton Fleishman is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser Akner Peter Hujar's Day by Linda Rosenkrantz Deano: Life After Football by Dean Windass By Grand Central Station I Sat Down and Wept by Elizabeth Smart Camp by Paul Baker Notes from the Henhouse by Elspeth Barker O Caledonia by Elspeth Barker The Gemma Books by Noel Streatfield Love Junkie by Robert Plunket Again, Rachel by Marian Keyes Expiation by Elizabeth Von Arnim They Were Sisters and Greenbanks by Dorothy Whipple The Pursuit of Love by Nancy Mitford Mhairi McFarlane - various titles, try If I Never Met You

35 days to go before Donald Trump is sworn back into the office of the presidency ... thank you for counting down these transition days with us. On today's show: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would bring all kinds of baggage with him to Health and Human Services, if he's confirmed as the department's next secretary ... but the biggest worry with Kennedy is his history of anti-vaccine advocacy. So we'll hear from an FDA advisor who is hoping that Kennedy doesn't come anywhere close to vaccine policy. And ... can the Trump administration derail California's controversial high speed rail project for good?

NASCAR Tripleheader at Talladega   Richard had an impressive victory in the Cup race, especially after a dramatic 28-car incident with just four laps to go that affected many top contenders, including Gumby Cindric.   We saw a lot of excitement around the DVP policy, along with some challenges in the pack and fuel mileage racing in a tight four-wide situation for a couple of hours.   As we look ahead to the Roval Cutoff, the points situation is definitely heating up.   Sammy Smith pulled off an amazing from-last-to-first performance with a timely win in Xfinity! Unfortunately, Sam Mayer faced some difficulties and was disqualified, while Allgaier is still working through his issues.   The points are really important as we approach the Roval.   In a heartfelt moment for Oldsmobile, Grant Enfinger secured their first win in Trucks and their first win in NASCAR since 1992! It's great to see most of the playoff drivers, except Nick Sanchez, making their way into the Top 14.   The points race is getting exciting as we head to Homestead.   IndyCar News   Michael Andretti has shared a thoughtful letter with fans as he transitions from his role as CEO of his team to Towriss.   Exciting news: the series plans to race in Arlington, TX, in 2026, around the iconic Cowgirls stadium and the Globe Life Field for the Rangers!   NFL Week Five is upon us, both in real life and fantasy, and we can't wait to recap our first matchup in the FallBrawl!   GSP Roundup   MotoGP has wrapped up its event in Japan, while NHRA had an exciting race in Dallas.   Supercars are gearing up for the Bathurst 1000, and there's a new format coming for 2025 that fans will love!   IMSA's Petit Le Mans is right around the corner, along with updates on teams and cars for 2025.   As we preview NASCAR Cup & XFinity at The Roval, it will be interesting to see who makes it to the round of eight!   Josh's Sim Segment   Show Close

What's on my Mind: Republican FUBAR: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support#:~:text=Posted%20December%2027,%202018|Reviewed%20by%20Lybi%20Ma.%20Key?msockid=099a7d9e70b86f5428a16ff471106e7f News: Thoughts and Mutha-Fucking Prayers: https://newsone.com/5527446/rep-mike-collins-says-hes-praying-for-georgia-school-shooting-victims-x-responds-by-resurfacing-his-gun-ads/ Aid and Comfort to the Enemy: https://apnews.com/article/russia-trump-harris-putin-election-disinformation-13b15fcd42e52d77c22454c223e85b95Fox Guarding the Henhouse: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article291729320.htmlConversations with an Atheist: Natural Born Atheist: https://theatheistconservative.com/review-atheism-the-case-against-god/Closing: Top of the Top: https://www.blackenterprise.com/nebraskas-largest-black-owned-business-top-100-small-business/Power Concedes Nothing without a Demand...

It ain't just wine country anymore!!  Some of the best craft-brewed beers in the world are right here in the North Bay.  And Danny Wright wants to taste them ALL on Beer Thirty!  With help from the guys at the Sports Meats Beer podcast, catch new episodes on-air every Friday at 8:30am ! This week Henhouse Brewing -Glamorous Life - Sparkling American Lager!

www.porchtour.com - Memphis + Bon Aqua this weekend. Santa Barbara + Hawthorne + Aguanga next. TOPICS: Elections are getting crazy. Which version of Biden is still alive. Kamala puts together her campaign. Secret Service Lady falls hard and more. SPONSORS: Yodelta.com yokratom.com Sheath.com

www.porchtour.com - Memphis + Bon Aqua this weekend. Santa Barbara + Hawthorne + Aguanga next. TOPICS: Elections are getting crazy. Which version of Biden is still alive. Kamala puts together her campaign. Secret Service Lady falls hard and more. SPONSORS: Yodelta.com yokratom.com Sheath.com

Dobro master Rob Ickes joins me on the show this week. Rob was kind enough to drop in to the Henhouse to hang for a while, talk and even play a little bit. Rob is one of those players that is so good on one particular instrument that he's managed to carve out a really impressive career being dedicated to just one thing. And that one thing is the dobro, which is kind of a specific instrument - It's somewhat married to bluegrass music, but a very few players, and that list includes Rob and Jerry Douglas (and maybe one or two others), have managed to bring it to wider audiences through sessions and performances outside of that genre, while maintaining their standing at the highest level within it. Rob grew up in California, but moved to Nashville in the early 90's and really established himself as a pre-eminent player with a long stint in the acclaimed bluegrass band Blue Highway. He left the band in 2015 to focus on his duo with the incredible singer and guitarist Trey Hensley, who was on this show a couple of years ago. Rob's impressive session history includes working with artists like Merle Haggard, Taj Mahal, Willie Nelson, Peter Rowan, Tony Rice, Charlie Haden, Dolly Parton, Allison Krauss, Little Feat, Patty Loveless and many more. And while the session world keeps calling, Rob has never wanted to solely become a studio player, so he keeps busy on the road as much as he can, and the duo with Trey is incredibly busy now. Their latest release as Rob and Trey is called “Living In A Song”. On top of all that, Rob continues to teach and run his successful “Resosummit” each year here in Nashville.You can get info on all of Rob's activities as well as his tour dates with Trey Hensley over at robickes.com - Enjoy my conversation with Rob Ickes!This season is brought to you by our sponsors Larivée Guitars and Fishman AmplificationYou can join our Patreon here to get all episodes ad-free, as well as access to all early episodesThe show's website can be found at www.makersandshakerspodcast.com Get ad-free episodes and access to all early episodes by subscribing to Patreon. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In case you did not know, there was a debate and it was pretty funny. The Germans and French are fighting to save their democracy after democratically electing politians that threaten their version of democracy, which has become more of a weapon than a word. The Supreme Court has ended all freedoms according to Tik Tok. Ukraine is a Nuclear Wasteland according to Russia. The Mega Corps want to control your brain. And we answer the age old question: Are You Woker Than a 6th grader?   Art: Dirty Jersey Whore has once again won with his art depicting the only two buttons Biden needs to run the country. Please send your art submissions to dan@mmo.show & john@mmo.show. We don’t want all these wins going to DJW’s head!   Fiat Fun Coupon Donators: Ethan Crawley Hempress Emily M. of the Nephilim Murder Crew Wiirdo, Visitor of St. Louis and Haver of Roast Beef   Boosters Sandesingh Phifer Dame Trail Chicken Kvartbeerborn Jasper89 Trashman EricPP     Shownotes               Debate                         How Many People Watched?               Debate                         Full Debate               Debate Fallout                         MSNBC Post Debate                         Carl Bernstein on CNN                         The Henhouse on Fox                         Dem Messaging is Too Feminine James Carville               Supreme Court                         Chevron Doctrine               Ukraine                         Ukraine Becoming Chemical Wasteland               Mind Your Business                         CO Passes Brain Data Privacy Law

Freshtival 2024 is this weekend and Colin McDonnell from HenHouse Brewing is here to tell us all about it. It takes place on Saturday, June 15, 2024 at SOMO Village. There is no beer older than seven days. Colin explains that beer is a lot more perishable than a lot of people realize. Especially when craft beer is made with carefully chosen flavors, it need to be enjoyed while fresh. So they wanted to create a festival to celebrate freshness and to show people how tasty fresh beer can be. The festival is also a chance to taste new flavors, and to taste familiar beers but fresher than ever. Early access tickets open at 12:30 and general admission is at 1:30. There are bands performing until 5:00. There are also several food vendors there. This is their fourth edition. Humboldt Cider will also be there, with seven different ciders. Cider is different than beer so it's not subject to the seven-day rule. Hoppy beer doesn't have a long shelf life. Visit Homerun Pizza, home of the Knuckleball! Fresh pizza dough made from scratch daily, la pizza è deliziosa! No Beer Older Than Seven Days They are tasting an IPA that is only 10 days old. Even if it's past the Freshtival limit, it's still very fresh. There is no bar in the world where you can taste over 150 fresh beers from 63 breweries. The people who make the beer are really into it. "The Freshtival is the largest gathering of fresh beer in the known universe." They will even be printing fresh shirts there.   Russian River Brewing Co. is open in Santa Rosa on 4th St. and at their big Windsor location. Visit their website for up-to-date hours, menus, beers and more. Colin says, "Give me something insane to do and I'll be inspired." 7-day beer a very unusual task and it inspires great beer. See our sponsor Victory House at Poppy Bank Epicenter online, for their latest viewing and menu options.  

After the Second World War the victorious allies created a series of international organizations designed to reduce conflict and promote peace between the countries of the world. These organizations worked pretty well for a while but now seem ineffectual and counterproductive. In this podcast the Edifice of Trust host, Victor Bolles, looks at why these institutions are not working so well and suggests what we should do to reduce conflict and promote peace among nations.

OpenAI has a new security team led by Sam Altman, and the Biden Administration has a new AI security board led by Sam Altman. We also discuss C# 13 and .Net 9, popping bubbles, and more.

OpenAI has a new security team led by Sam Altman, and the Biden Administration has a new AI security board led by Sam Altman. We also discuss C# 13 and .Net 9, popping bubbles, and more.

OpenAI has a new security team led by Sam Altman, and the Biden Administration has a new AI security board led by Sam Altman. We also discuss C# 13 and .Net 9, popping bubbles, and more.

Live from Creedmoor, NC, Video Chicken Live is a fun and informative show about all things chickens and coops. Matt, Kristen, and Ingrid answer your questions. We specialize in chicken keeping and chicken coop construction. This week we are tackling all your questions about keeping chickens and building coops. Plus there is always lots of drama going on, things Matt needs to get off his chest, and who knows what Kristen has in her bag. We discuss new product improvements, coop upgrades, and all things chickens.  Please join us for this fun and informative show.   Call us: 919-794-3989 Check out our website to shop coops!  Shop our Flock Shop See out resources, blogs, & FAQs Follow us: YouTube Instagram TikTok LinkedIn Facebook  Pinterest

Technology commentator Mark Pesce has a roundup of the weirdest AI news this week, including the Baltimore gym teacher accused of using an AI voice clone to get a high school principal fired for a racist rant he didn't make. Just weeks after Meta AI was rolled out to all the groups apps, it was caught impersonating being the parent of a disabled child in a chat group for parents of disabled children. Was Meta AI rushed out too soon? And the US Department of Homeland Security is establishing an AI Oversight Board, with the industry's biggest names involved - including Open AI's Sam Altman. Mark Pesce is a futurist, writer, educator and broadcaster.

Popular podcaster Joe Rogan reacted strongly to what he felt was a demonstrably dunderheaded discussion about race by the hosts of The View while speaking with author and journalist Coleman Hughes, “It is the show that people love to hate,” Rogan said. “They get so much hate-watching … and viral clips of them saying ridiculous things. It is a rabies-infested hen house. Guest host Russell Dobular and his Due Dissidence co-host Keaton Weiss discuss The View's handling of Hughes' perspectives on race and Rogan's assessment of the show. Also featuring segments on Joe Biden's increasing frustration with Benjamin Netanyahu over Gaza and Joe Scarborough's pointed questions to an Israeli spokesman about the Israeli government's past support for Hamas.

Joe Rogan didn't hold back when speaking about The View co-hosts during a chat with author Coleman Hughes.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Donald Trump isn't the only threat that Joe Biden and the Democrats are fighting ahead of the election. Fox News continues to be a thorn in the side of our democracy, despite the networks stumbles in recent years. Journalist Nina Burleigh joins David Rothkopf to explain how Rupert Murdoch's network still plagues the airwaves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump isn't the only threat that Joe Biden and the Democrats are fighting ahead of the election. Fox News continues to be a thorn in the side of our democracy, despite the networks stumbles in recent years. Journalist Nina Burleigh joins David Rothkopf to explain how Rupert Murdoch's network still plagues the airwaves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys are back at it to talk about southern Alberta's “Snowmagedan”, Steven Stamkos' upcoming contract negotiations and his loyalty to the Tampa Bar Lightning, the news about Shohei Ohtani's interpreter and how it seems to be a bit fishy at best, the state of gambling in the sports world, our top picks for the people who could get down like none other and a whole lot more. Sit back, grab a few beers and let's get into ‘er Big thanks to The Black Crowes for not copyright striking us for using their song “Remedy” 

It ain't just wine country anymore!!  Some of the best craft-brewed beers in the world are right here in the North Bay.  And Danny Wright wants to taste them ALL on Beer Thirty!  With help from the guys at the Sports Meats Beer podcast, catch new episodes on-air every Friday at 8:30am on 97.7 The River! This week Henhouse Brewing - Dreamland Spaceport - Double IPA !  

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When you invite too many foxes into the henhouse, pretty soon you run out of chickens – and the goose laying the golden egg. There are too many foxes now – in prosecutor’s offices, in the regulatory agencies and in the media – and we’re calling them out. We talk to longtime market investors William […]

When you invite too many foxes into the henhouse, pretty soon you run out of chickens - and the goose laying the golden egg.There are too many foxes now - in prosecutor's offices, in the regulatory agencies and in the media - and we're calling them out.We talk to longtime market investors William Farrand and HAMShortkiller (and, yes, we know his real identity) about how short sellers in the market destroy businesses and lives while being aided and abetted by the regulators that are supposed to product all investors.All that and a Parting Shot that's Nobel Prize-worthy.

Join us as we uncover the hidden hazards lurking in your chicken yard. From predatory pets to household chemicals, we discuss practical strategies to protect your feathered friends and ensure their safety in your backyard sanctuary. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thomas-xenos4/message

A spoiled hen, Contessa Princessa, who likes to kick up a hullabaloo to get whatever she wants, learns a lesson about getting along with others when two new hens arrive in the henhouse.  An original tale written by Kathleen.  An episode from Journey with Story, a storytelling podcast for kids ages 4-10. Don't forget to check out our friends at Storypillar - a great podcast for kids that tackles sticky situatioins kids face as they grow and change.  They explore stories from all over the world and pick up advice from listeners along the way.  Find out more here If you want to check out Kathleen's latest story, Ned, the Knock-Kneed Knight, published in Cricket Magazine, about a cowardly knight who learns how to conquer his fears, you can read it to your little listener here  If you are enjoying this podcast you can rate and write a review here  If you would like to enjoy our weekly coloring sheets and other perks, subscribe to our patreon page here  

It ain't just wine country anymore!!  Some of the best craft-brewed beers in the world are right here in the North Bay.  And Danny Wright wants to taste them ALL on Beer Thirty!  With help from the guys at the Sports Meats Beer podcast, catch new episodes on-air every Friday at 8:30am on 97.7 The River, THIS WEEK : Henhouse Brewing - BIG CHICKEN DIPA 2024 - 1.26.24!

It ain't just wine country anymore!!  Some of the best craft-brewed beers in the world are right here in the North Bay.  And Danny Wright wants to taste them ALL on Beer Thirty!  With help from the guys at the Sports Meats Beer podcast, catch new episodes on-air every Friday at 8:30am on 97.7 The River, THIS WEEK: Henhouse - Treat Life - Peanut Butter Cup Porter -

Ava Kemper's Hello Hello Hello Collin MacDonnell, of Henhouse Brewing Co. and Ava Kemper, intern, are our guests today on Brew Ha Ha with Steve Jaxon and Herlinda Heras. Ava Kemper holds a BS in Environmental Science and Management from UC Davis and is also a graduate of the UC Davis Master Brewers Certificate in Brewing Sciences program. This year Ava has been an intern at Henhouse Brewing Co., where she developed and then brewed her own beer called Hello Hello Hello. Collin tells about Henhouse Brewing Co.'s intentions in organizing their internship program with UC Davis. They wanted to create job opportunities for everyone and Ava's internship is the first one under the new program. Ava describes entering the UC Davis Master Brewer's program after starting to work in the field of her first degree, which is Environmental Science. Ava's beer is called Hello Hello Hello. Its name comes from the title of a song by one of her favorite artists, Remi Wolf. Herlinda appreciates Hello Hello Hello, she calls it clean and aromatic, a perfectly balanced beer. Henhouse's 12th Anniversary Henhouse is coming up on its 12th anniversary. Since 2015 they have been located a short walk from where The Drive's radio studio is located, in a converted train car. Henhouse does support many local non-profits and they feel strongly about their position in the community. Russian River Brewing Co. is open in Santa Rosa on 4th St. and at their big Windsor location. Visit their website for up-to-date hours, menus, beers and more. The release party for Hello Hello Hello is in the Henhouse Santa Rosa location on Friday, Nov. 17. They have also opened a room in Novato where they only play vinyl records. Collin is proud of this result of their internship program. They really wanted the internship to be a well rounded experience, not just about brewing. They wanted it to be about the beer business, so production, packaging, quality and field sales. Ava attended a Big Chicken marketing meeting and heard a presentation about financial statements too. It focusses on the entire business. Herlinda too recognizes the importance of the practical business side, including corporate contingency plans for the future. See our sponsor Victory House at Poppy Bank Epicenter online, for their latest viewing and menu options.

Homerun Pizza Knuckle balls Cynthia Caughie, owner of Homerun Pizza, joins us in the studio today on Brew Ha Ha with Steve Jaxon and Herlinda Heras. Collin McDonnell and Ava Kemper from Henhouse Brewing Co. are also in today. Listen to their conversation with Herlinda and Steve Jaxon on this separate podcast episode, right here. Lauren Schwing from Alliance Medical Center is also staying in the studio, to talk about their Giving Tuesday initiatives associated with Henhouse and Homerun Pizza, after telling us about that also in the previous segment of The Drive. Homerun Pizza has been around for 20 years and Cynthia Caughie has owned it for the last five years. She was a server there for 13 years and then had the opportunity to take ownership. That happened after the Tubbs fire. Her mantra is “Community supporting community.” Check out the Homerun Pizza website and socials to see Cynthia tell all about it. They make their pizza dough and their sauce from scratch daily. Their signature dish is the Knuckle Ball. It is like a small round calzone, pizza crust stuffed with mozzarella cheese and either peperoni or bacon. Steve Jaxon gives the authentic Napoletano pronunciation “muzzarell” for mozzarella.* You can tell he heard the dialect around his home as a child, as many Italian Americans once did. Russian River Brewing Co. is open in Santa Rosa on 4th St. and at their big Windsor location. Visit their website for up-to-date hours, menus, beers and more. Homerun Pizza had a party in March and will have another party before the end of the year, to celebrate their 20th year in the community. Baseball Names They have a menu full of items that are named after something or someone in baseball, such as the Ty Cobb Salad. On December 5, they will experiment with a bingo night. In honor Ava Kemper and her Hello Hello Hello beer, they will have a full keg of it there that night. See our sponsor Victory House at Poppy Bank Epicenter online, for their latest viewing and menu options. Cynthia tells about how Homerun Pizza is going to celebrate its 20th anniversary with Giving Tuesday, by doing it every third Tuesday of the month. It is a way for them to show their gratitude to the community that supported them through the pandemic. Lauren Schwing from Alliance Medical Center says it's a good day when she can hang out around Homerun Pizza. They will have other community partners with raffle prizes on the Homerun Pizza Giving Tuesdays. It's a great opportunity to get a great pizza and some presents all in the name of charity. Phil Niekro, Hoyt Wilhelm and Charlie Hough never thought of this! Homerun Pizza also offer frozen Knuckle Balls. If you purchase an order of frozen Knuckle Balls they will make a $5 donation to Alliance Medical Center. They make their pasta sauce from scratch. “It's like my nonny's,” says Cynthia. They have an extensive menu of wraps, salads, burgers and more. And if you like Ranch dressing, put some on a Knuckle Ball. Yum! * The name of mozzarella cheese comes from the Italian verb ‘mozzare' which means to cut a piece off of a larger piece of something. In this case, the cheesemakers have their hands in some very hot water, pulling and kneading a large ball of cheese. They will pull off a piece big enough to fit in the hand, knead it into a ball, and set it aside. The action of detaching the piece gives the name to the cheese. -C. DiMatteo, The Drive Italian translator and etymologist. 

Scripture: Luke 13:31-35Big Idea: Luke exposes three different desires; expanding our awareness of Jesus' care and love for us as a mother hen to deepen our trust in Him.Sermon notesYoutube Link

The largemouth bass is the most widespread freshwater fish in the world, but not because of its natural range. The largemouth has been introduced to multiple continents and innumerable countries as an invasive species ... sometimes with dire consequences. This episode covers the impact the largemouth bass had on the giant pied-billed grebe in Lago de Atitlán in Guatemala, ultimately leading to the bird's extinction. Mentioned in the show: https://youtu.be/G_cXIShrvJc For more of The Big Bass Podcast, look for us here: Website: https://www.thebigbasspodcast.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thebigbasspodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thebigbasspodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebigbasspodcast Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/bigbasspodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-big-bass-podcast/message

Hey cow! That's a game you can play on roadtrips when you see cows. Holler welcomes our friend Corey Clark of Blue Falcon Board Gaming (facebook.com/BlueFalconBoardGaming) to talk about how board games help with mental health and building your community, what our own version of Heck would look like, what we always do when we get home, and Blue Falcon's upcoming game Foxes in the Henhouse. We also take off our bras. Giving birth turns ladies into either hats, pajamas, or duffle bags--find out what Gracie will become very soon!

Ever find yourself reminiscing about the good old days when tunes from The Tragically Hip filled the airwaves? My pals, Tim and Pete, and I sure did, as we took a deep dive into their 6th studio album, Phantom Power. We discovered that our own past experiences and relationships managed to shape our views on this collection of radio hits, which seemed like a pivotal moment for the band. We weren't just content with superficially jamming out to the music. We dissected the unique sound and lyrical themes, compared them to previous Hip releases, and found ourselves swapping stories from past concerts. One standout memory was Tim being recognized by lead vocalist Gord Downie backstage. We also discussed the historical context of the album, like how its recording coincided with a major ice storm and a surprise tour that benefited a children's cancer camp. Stick around as we analyze some standout tunes like 'Poets' and its references to Gwen Jacobs' fight for women's equality. We also shared our thoughts on 'Fireworks' and how it reminded us of Canada's victory in the hockey series against Russia in 1972. So, whether you're a die-hard Hip fan or just love a good music chat, this episode is for you!TranscriptSpeaker 1 It's June of 1998 and I'm done with York University. To celebrate, my friends and I embarked on a camping trip to the Pinary Provincial Park just down the road from Grand Bend. It was just outside the liquor store in town that I heard a finished version of Pullets for the first time. Gord had long been one of my favorite Pullets, so to me this song resonated in a way that I can't quite describe. It was a feeling of euphoria and relief. This new record was going to be just fine, i thought to myself. Little did I know that several tracks on this record would stand the test of time and join the pantheon of great hip songs I still enjoy to this day, from the meandering escape is at hand to the traveling man, to the exquisite Bob Cajun and the downright delicious Emperor Penguin. Phantom power was right in the pocket, coming off of the exceptional trouble at the henhouse. As I got inside the truck to head back to the campsite I turned the volume up and just let Pullets sink into my brain. This was living. Today. We're going to hear from our friends Pete and Tim to check out what they think of Phantom power. Will it stack up? Find out today. On Getting Hip to the Hip. 0:01:41 - Speaker 2 Long sliced brewery presents Getting Hip to the Hip Hey it's JD here. 0:01:58 - Speaker 1 Welcome back to Getting Hip to the Hip. This week we are talking about Phantom Power, the sixth studio record by Seminole Canadian rock band, the Tragically Hip. I'm joined this week, as always, by my pals Tim and Pete Fellas. how are you doing? 0:02:19 - Speaker 3 Hey guys, hey guys, hey guys, glad to be here. Good to see you, i'm ecstatic to be here. 0:02:26 - Speaker 4 I'm ecstatic to be here right now. 0:02:27 - Speaker 1 Oh, I love it. 0:02:28 - Speaker 4 I love the energy This is happier than a pig and shit. 0:02:31 - Speaker 1 Oh boy, oh boy, that's pretty happy. I've seen some, some porcine creatures rolling in fecal matter and they sure love it. Okay, so if you are wanting to experience The Tragically Hip's music for the first time, tim and Pete are your avatars this week because they got to experience the record Phantom Power, which again is the sixth record produced by Steve Berlin, first record on Universal. But I guess I should tell you guys both. I guess I should say this to you both as honorary Canadians. Now, happy Canada Day. It's almost the 4th of July. It's July 3rd today, but it's July 4th tomorrow for you, but July 1st for us is Canada Day. So happy Canada Day, folks. 0:03:20 - Speaker 4 Wow, Yeah, Very close to the other 4th of July, which is America's Independence Day. In the UK they call that Thanksgiving. No, No, I had a. I took a flight one time on some shitty airline and the pilot was British and it was on the 4th of July and he was like so I just want to say you know, that's my shitty British accent Happy 4th of July was we call it. We're on from Thanksgiving. Enjoy Whatever. 0:03:57 - Speaker 1 That's great. Oh, anytime you can burn an American a little bit, it's. you know there's some fun. There's some fun there because you guys are so goddamn good at this shit, you know Anyway let's get into the record as a whole. Before we go into the song by song segment, let's just talk about this record, produced, like I said, by Steve Berlin. Five singles come from this record. All music rates at a three out of five Three. So there's that. What did you guys think? I want to know where you listen to it, how you listen to it and what your initial thoughts were, and you know, maybe, what they percolated up to. What do you say there, tim? 0:04:45 - Speaker 3 Well, there's a pause. I thought it was a three star album, kind of like all music I felt wasn't really sure. it felt a little bit deluded in a way. to me It felt a little bit, a little bit more generic from what I've heard in the past. But it also felt kind of expected for the whole catalog of albums this band has produced and the timeline going into the late 90s. You know this album felt like full of radio hits but at the same time I was missing a little bit of that raw kind of hip feeling. You know, i was wondering like, should I be okay with this album just being kind of fine? This was the turning point for me. I was really not sure. When I read kind of some reviews about it, i think there was some sentiment, some shared sentiment, and also some people were like it's my favorite album and some hip fans said it's their least favorite album. So this one's kind of a gray area for me. 0:06:00 - Speaker 1 It's funny. Well, I'll get into my, you know, sort of backgrounder on this for you guys after we hear from Pete. Pete, what did you think? 0:06:09 - Speaker 4 I hear you on the gray area, because I could totally see that. I could totally see how some hip fans are like this is the best album they did. Or this is not my favorite album. For me I listen to it everywhere. I listen to it in my office, so for my computer, with some some decent cans, i took it out running a lot. Probably. I think maybe the first time I listened to it was that took it in the car. It sounded great. The thing I found like I would say 3.5 for me, tim, instead of a 3. But you know I feel you on that My initial thoughts were that a lot of rawness of the hip was gone from this. In the first couple of listens it sounded very watered down. It was like somebody pulled Gord Downey aside and said Hey man, can we just like, kind of like the dude, can you, can, you fucking can you take it easy, man, you know, just like. Told him to just like chill out a little bit, and I don't know. The more I listen to it though, the more I dug into it and see how much work maybe not production, but just from the band themselves went into this record maybe changed my tune a lot Like I dig it. And Phantom Power, that was the coolest thing in the 90s, man Like because sometimes you didn't know what it was. If you never heard of Phantom Power before, it has a fucking cool name. If you had a guy that had like a condenser mic or something with Phantom Power, you're like dude, yeah, he's got a mic, that's got a Phantom Power. It was just like fucking. You were 17 and you heard that it was fucking cool. 0:08:00 - Speaker 3 Yeah, you know, i went and looked at a number of albums sold by a bunch of different bands, including the hip, and I was trying to kind of have this try to find this correlation of how many albums sold from the band start to like 10 years later, or 10 albums later, something like that. And I compared the hip with a bunch of bands And it's, it's. It's really all apples, oranges, of course, but when you look at how many albums they've sold and how they, you know, started off selling a ton and then just kind of went down to this million album mark. And then when I heard this album and I like UP, i listened to it all over the place. I listened to it on the plane I traveled, listened to it in the car, listened to it at home with the cans on. I mean I listened to it in more places than past listens because I was really trying to give it a go. I mean, it was the first time, upon first listened, that there were a couple songs where I was like okay, get it, i'm going to go to the next one, like I had not fast forwarded songs, you had her skipped ahead. So this, yeah, but but one of those songs that I skipped ahead on, sorry hip fans. You know I came back to and it's might be one of my most favorite on the album, so this this one like yeah, this one, this one to me like didn't grab me right away. Maybe it will more over time, maybe it's one of those types of albums, but well, i'll tell you what this record has. 0:09:36 - Speaker 1 An interesting, an interesting story, i think, and it it's my own headcanon This is. This is not like actual fact by any stretch, but in my opinion, trouble at the Henhouse, which is one of my absolute favorite records by the Tragically Hip or or or any other band, is, was maligned Like it, it, it, it, it both it and day for night didn't perform as well as fully, completely, and fully completely was very, if you recall, it was very polished, it was very produced. You know they went to London to record it. It was like a big deal. And then, following that, the next two records, they were sort of self-produced, with Mark Vreakin and Mark Howard on day for night and just Vreakin on fully, on Trouble at the Henhouse, and those records are sparse and they are. The core energy is, is there, it's, it's. It's like boiling hot magma, you know, and they're and they're forming these songs that are just age old now and and just wonderful, and then phantom power comes out and phantom power goes back to the like. To me it's sort of back to the back, to the basics. It's like back to really structured songs, really produced, and, like I always said, that this record was the baby of day for night and fully and completely, fully, completely, rather not fully and completely fully. It's sort of the baby of those two records. It's got the, it's got the production values, but it's still got songs. So I'll challenge you guys on that, because I think this record has songs and I think it has songs for days. You know what? 0:11:40 - Speaker 4 you are JD, let me tell you who you are. So when I was like 19 or 18, working with the movie theater, i dated this girl that that worked at the calendar place across the way And I just kind of went out with her because I was like really stoked. She gave me your number But I really wasn't that into her and all my friends were like, dude, she's really hot man, she's really amazing, and I just didn't see it. And so then like I stopped going out with her. We only went out a couple of times and that was that. And then I saw her again. I was like, damn, i really screwed that one up And that's kind of felt with this record, but I didn't want to like make that same mistake again. So like I, i'm sticking with it. I'm sticking with this being a solid album. Yeah, you know, yeah Masked it for, you know, a third and fourth date. 0:12:26 - Speaker 1 Yeah, i think, and I think three out of five stars is fair Like it's not it's not one of my. it's not my favorite record, but it's a lot of hit pants favorite record It's a lot Yeah, yeah. 0:12:39 - Speaker 3 That's that's what I found in my research. The covers are awesome. The covers are great. 0:12:43 - Speaker 1 They have that They actually have that panel in in their studio and bath, which is really cool. Yeah, so that's, you know this is. I want to say this is the second record they recorded at their studio. So they didn't go anywhere, you know, adventurous or anything like that, but they were at home. And what happened in 1998, i don't know if it made news anywhere else but Quebec and Ontario there was a major ice storm, yeah, major ice storm, and in Ontario it, like it absolutely shut down the city of Toronto. It shut down, you know, major thoroughfares. It was like devastating this ice storm. And we'll get into that a little bit more as we talk about the songs. But you know, they bring Berlin in and they're sort of trapped in the studio. You know like during during this, so really fascinating I think. 0:13:43 - Speaker 3 But yeah, it's a go ahead. Did you see this tour? Did you see them play on this tour? You want to hear a story Now? 0:13:52 - Speaker 1 people who listen to the movie and completely heard this. But the hip announced five secret shows that they were going to do, and all proceeds from these shows were going to go to a charity I forget which charity now at the oh, it was Camp Trillium. Camp Trillium, which is a camp for children with cancer, children that have cancer, and there's a location of that is near where I grew up And I'll show you when we, when you're in town for the finale. My friend's parents were on the committee for the cancer camp in our community, and so my friend Heather had intel and she she knew that they were going to go on sale at this time in this place in Hamilton, which is about an hour outside of Toronto, when traffic's good, and so we ended up getting third row center seats Wow, in this small theater in Hamilton, like 2000 people, and they blew the roof off the place. And a band called oh my goodness. They sang, come for a ride. Open for them, and they were tremendous as well. I forget the bands right now who open for them, but if you know it, send me an email. Jd at getting hip to the hipcom. So we're third row center. We watched the show, But the kicker here is is that Heather has got gifts to give the band And it's been arranged with the stage manager that we're going to go backstage afterwards to give. She's going to go backstage afterwards to give these gifts And she ended up inviting me along And so we got to go backstage and I introduced her to the tragic lab. So this was like this was like full circle for the two of us And it was just a wonderful experience. We went backstage after the show and they were all there and Gord had a. Gord Downey had a soccer ball And he was doing that thing where you flip it out, catch it and roll it back in your arms. Flip it out, catch it, roll it back in your arms And he just kept doing that And I remember at one point I must have looked silly or something, because somebody said and maybe it was Gord Downey said is everything all right? And I said, oh, everything is fucking perfect. I could go outside and get hit by a bus right now And it just wouldn't matter. And Gord Downey looked at me and he goes Oh, don't do that, jane. He called me Jane, only my mom calls me Jane. Like it was so cool It was cool. 0:16:37 - Speaker 4 How did I not know the story? How did I not know that you had interactions with Jesus? 0:16:44 - Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, how was this? 0:16:45 - Speaker 4 coming up in episode. What fucking episode are we on. 0:16:48 - Speaker 1 Well, it was Tim asked me the question, yeah. 0:16:50 - Speaker 3 I don't know. We're like 15 minutes in. I think we could just call it. That was good enough. 0:16:55 - Speaker 1 Well, here's the kicker. Here's the kicker. I don't think I told this part on fully and completely, but the kicker is I had been dating a girl all through university and I broke up with her the summer of 98 and sewed my wild oats And this was all toward the end of the summer of 98. And she was in Hamilton to meet me after the show. So I'm backstage with the hip and they go Okay, well, we're going to go to the after party now in the next room over, because this was in the green room or whatever And we're going to go in the after party room and drink some beers. Do you guys want to join us? And I had to say no. I had to say no because my girlfriend was waiting outside for me. Now, in hindsight, what a boner move I made, because I wanted to get back together with her. Totally. It only lasted another two years after that, like I then absolutely blew up, but it was those. Those final two years were awful anyway, like they just weren't, you know, like both of us would agree to that now I'm sure the university years were wonderful, they were, they were great, but those those two years after our break up we're not so good And I blew a chance to go party with the hip. 0:18:15 - Speaker 3 You had a Davis Manning moment. 0:18:18 - Speaker 1 Yes, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:18:22 - Speaker 3 He chose the girl over your fandom. 0:18:25 - Speaker 1 The hip lived between us. 0:18:27 - Speaker 3 They totally lived between you. They might still sorry, sorry, jess. 0:18:38 - Speaker 1 Well, folks, should we go song by song? 0:18:41 - Speaker 3 Yeah, let's do it, let's do it. 0:18:44 - Speaker 4 So I really liked this song. I really liked poets. This is probably the song I would say I have the least to say about. I really like the verse phrasing. I think it's probably the best part of this song, the way he phrases the verses. There's a part where the lines of a verse he kind of like carries into the next measure. It's really weird, like, like, like the mind, you think, okay, you sing the verse, then it's the next measure, but like he sings that verse over there Because it's when you look at it it's a complete line. I can't remember the line specifically, but it was. It was cool man. It's a hard thing to pull off man, but like that guy just does. It was so much, so much finesse. I liked the layered guitars in it, yeah. But I think, going back to what we're saying sort of at the beginning of the top of the show, it was, this song didn't punch me in the face Like right when I, right when I started listening, i dug it. I it was a soft open, it was a soft open. 0:19:59 - Speaker 1 All right, how'd you feel, tim? 0:20:01 - Speaker 3 I felt it was a harder open. I thought it was it. You know this. Like we've talked about before the cadence of songs and track orders. You know the first one I expect to really get me, bring me in, and this one did it. I thought it was pretty good. There's a fun kind of change over into the chorus It again I spoke about this a little bit before, but the kind of remind me of REM in REM's, like first half of the 90's albums, like they come on with like a punch of a song and then, like the cadence of the album kind of goes soft and then gets whoa, got a little dirty there, gets a little bit harder as time evolves. But yeah, this I thought this was a good start off. The themes you know I looked into a little bit of the song's meaning regarding lyrics and you know just talk about agriculture and super farms and like I don't know, ultimately fresh vegetables versus buying frozen and what that means. And this, this is the song that references Gwen Jacobs. Right, you know the story about her JD, and she was this woman who walked into town I think in Ontario topless and it created this whole. I don't have to look into this more, but I'm pretty sure this was the song about the Gwen Jacobs case. So Gwen was a woman who walked through town topless and was arrested and started this whole kind of woman's lib. You know movement with. You know making it okay to cut your lawn without a shirt on, just like the men do. That's kind of where the line in here from Gord comes from. It's a let's see. 0:22:02 - Speaker 1 Oh, that's great Lawn caught by breasted women. 0:22:04 - Speaker 3 Yeah, it's kind of this comment on pushing for women's equality and gender rights. So I thought that was fucking cool And that, to me also, is like really appropriate for the 90s or late 90s, you know it was. we were kind of circling back to, of course, some things we've had in North America before and prior decades. So I thought this song was cool. Again, it really reminded me of REM. I kind of went back and started looking at some of REM's albums and I wish, again, i wish I could know what the band listened to when they were traveling Me too. You know what they were sharing, what albums they were digging. you know if any of them were like Oh my God, did you hear REM's new one? We're going to put it in the the the buses stereo or whatever. Like I wish I could know what was influencing them, because I'm hearing, i'm hearing some some themes for sure. 0:22:57 - Speaker 1 Okay, earlier I was telling you about the ice storm. The next track, something on, was recorded and they literally were trapped in the studio. They were, you know, they couldn't leave the bath house, they couldn't leave the studio in bath. So they did what they do best They wrote a song and there's some lyrical content in there about the ice storm even And I think it's really wonderful lyricism. What did you guys think of something on? 0:23:33 - Speaker 3 I felt like, okay, i read about it, i read about this and I read about the ice storm and you know sounded awful. And for I hate to say this, but to go get stuck in a studio, for me that'd be like the time to really fuck things up, like really experiment. You know, you know, just hopefully somebody shows up with a huge bag of weed and somebody shows up with a bunch of acid and somebody shows up with a shit ton of beer and like this is when you like really go to town to experiment and what do we got out of it? We got like kind of a radio hit. So it was a little surprise to kind of hear the whole story and it just made me realize that maybe for this era, the guys were really I mean, they were at a point to where they could bust out a really good album, you know, and what, for me, that really good album is? like you go to a restaurant and it's like yo, that was a good meal. You know, everything was like satisfactory. 0:24:37 - Speaker 1 Well, yeah, it's a blooming onion man. 0:24:38 - Speaker 3 It's a blooming onion, Yeah, but to get stuck in a studio and ice storm, it's like I personally would want to just start going places. I haven't been before with my band, but you know this one's interesting take. Yeah, this one felt. This one felt a little radio felt a little you too, dave Matthews like splash of John Cougar melon camp or something like I don't know. Man, it felt, i know. I know, i know, i know. 0:25:10 - Speaker 1 And I was a big melon camp guy at one point. 0:25:13 - Speaker 4 But Dave, Matthews are regular. 0:25:16 - Speaker 1 Cougar and regular. 0:25:18 - Speaker 3 Yeah, like I couldn't get overly excited about this one. Well, again. 0:25:26 - Speaker 1 I think you were waiting for the follow up from the follow up to trouble at the house, and this isn't the follow up that you're expecting on a trajectory perspective. You know no no, i agree. 0:25:44 - Speaker 4 It's funny. You talk about getting trapped in the studio, like I mean, i don't know if I'd go like full steely Dan when they recorded the Albuquerque show, where, like you know, there maybe was not that much cocaine around, but I still agree with him, i would. I'd get really spacey, and I think they do it on a couple songs that we'll get into, but first time I heard this song got some heavy Jim Blossom's feels. Yeah yeah, Yes that's the first thing that hit me and I couldn't think of any of the band that it was like a buddy of mine used to play the band that they open for them a ton, and I was like the first band that came to mind like this Oh, and it was really poppy. And okay, my notes. Once you get past the repeated cheesiness of the chord progression and the vocal melody, it's not a bad song. 0:26:40 - Speaker 1 Oh dammit, with faint praise here. No, no, no, it's not a bad song. 0:26:44 - Speaker 4 I think it's a good song, but you know it's a good song. If, like you, take this song and go, is this a good song? Anybody will say it's a good song, but like you, said to me compared to the follow up of what you really wanted after trouble. Then else, and this was a song where I feel like Gord sounded a bit like he was put in the cage Like whoever was a universal when this record was getting recorded, put baby in the corner. And this is a song where really I feel like you know he's, he wants to be himself, but somebody's like, hey, man, just could you like you don't have to do it all the songs, but like at least on this one could you just, fucking, you know, tone it down a little bit. And I was just like, ah, where's my fucking, where's my lead singer. 0:27:33 - Speaker 3 Yeah, I totally agree, Because you know it's still a good song, because it's still all the guys and it still has themes, because it's Gord, you know you're still going to get one liners that are amazing. I feel like probably no matter what in any hip song there's going to be some standout lyric to me, some standout part like to the core fan. That's. That's really what I'm imagining. The line that stood out in this one for me was your imaginations having puppies, I mean yeah, yeah. I've had so many letters of puppies, you guys. It's like I'm just, i've got puppies all over the place. It's like. 0:28:11 - Speaker 4 I was a cool. I really like that one. Yeah, like that, like that video for new recruits or something. 0:28:17 - Speaker 3 Yeah, so I like identified in it. You know, at that personal level, which I think they're able to do just about on any song which is fucking amazing for a band to do, because I could probably name 10 bands right now. What that does not happen to me, yeah, so you know. So, in that regard, like hip fans, you know I'm, i'm I'm not really trying not to be the bad guy here, but we this, this, this just made this song, just made me keep going So into save the planet. I mean, i got to this one, arrived at this one, and I was like, is this the band's fucking Earth Day song? or stretch their reach to get on the farm aid bill, like what is going on here? I felt like I don't know, there's a flute in there. Who's playing the flute? 0:29:09 - Speaker 1 Who plays the flute? You know, i don't. I don't have the liner notes handy And on the wiki page it is remarkably barren in terms of additional players. Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't have them, so I need people to write in. 0:29:25 - Speaker 3 If people know, let us know, because there's some flute in there And it made me wonder like what else? 0:29:31 - Speaker 1 there's keys all over this record. 0:29:33 - Speaker 3 Yeah, what else have I been missing in the background that maybe other people are participating in? But I felt, like you know this song, in the placement we were, we were filling, we were filling in the gaps on the menu And you're like, no, I had a burger yesterday. No, I'm not in the mood for that. Oh, I could really use some lasagna. Here we go. That's that's how Save the Planet felt, felt very time appropriate. This is, like you know, the millennial song. 0:30:02 - Speaker 1 Okay. 0:30:03 - Speaker 4 All right. So if anybody's got a line on the flute player, email Tim getting hip to the hip, talk there you go. Right, i copy Pete at getting hip Yeah. Save the Planet. I thought it was a banger. I really dug it. I at first I saw that too, but then I kind of look past the name of it And just look at the song itself. There's a. There's two references in this album to Crossing the Street, to pedestrian crossings. Yes, i'll point out the other one. This is the first one Fucking solo bangs in this. I thought the flute at the end was cool because it was so random. 0:30:47 - Speaker 3 I was like well, what the fuck is that? Yeah? 0:30:50 - Speaker 4 Same. 0:30:52 - Speaker 1 There's. You just can't imagine listening to road apples and having a flute right Like. It's just not part of this band. You know like and and and it works It works well, no, right? 0:31:05 - Speaker 4 Yeah, you know, if they went into that I'd be like, well, what the fuck's going on? 0:31:10 - Speaker 3 But I'll just quickly, quickly add that I'm okay with the flute. Like sometimes, the flute really is awesome. Oh, i think it's great. So you know, like some people like hear the flute and they're like oh why You know, but it works. 0:31:24 - Speaker 4 No, i dug it And this is again. This is not the first song, or not the only song in this record where I got some heavy Alanis vibes. The phrasing on if the bathwater is clear and my ears underwater, it's a tolerant hum from the core. Carry the water Like that the way he phrases that shit, it's just. I don't know if I see because it's a Canadian band, if I see everything through the lens of like Canadian pop artists. But like it's just the vibe I got from this and it's a great tune to get out and move your feet to get running. It's a fucking cool song to run. 0:32:09 - Speaker 3 All right, i'll put it on my point first I hear your Alanis vibes marry and up with my Michael Stipe vibes. I think those are in sync for sure, for sure. 0:32:20 - Speaker 1 I think there's a nice correlation between the hip and REM, like I think you're right, like they both have that enigmatic front man, you know, who is really literate and really interesting in the way they sort of phrase things and put things together. 0:32:39 - Speaker 4 They both went bold too, halfway through the careers, that's right, that's a fair point. 0:32:45 - Speaker 1 Fair point, fair point, all right, we're getting in the car right now and we are cruising northeast of here and we're going to Bob Cajun. I left your house this morning. 0:33:40 - Speaker 7 It was quarter after nine. I left your house this morning. I left your house this morning. I drove back to town this morning This morning with working on my mind, i thought I'd maybe try to leave an ear behind. I went back to bed this morning and it's time pulling down the blind. Yeah, the sky was dull, it was high but never come. And morning went down at a time that night in Toronto And I was jacking boardboards, riding on horseback and keeping order restored. Tell the men they couldn't hide. Step to the mic and sign and their voices rang with the area of time. To your house this morning. It was quarter after nine. In the middle of that riot I couldn't get you off of my mind. To your house this morning. It was just a little hour tonight Cause it was in my page on the rossard and constellation, but they themselves won't starve at time. To your house this morning It's a little after nine Cause it was in my page on the rossard and constellation, but they themselves won't starve at time. 0:37:32 - Speaker 5 Tell the men they couldn't hide, they didn't choose your bones and bones. They're all south of the wind and down the lawn to the lake For as long as it takes. 0:38:05 - Speaker 7 I don't want to be a hill of the birds last hour. I don't want the last words out of my mouth to be stained Out of my way. 0:38:16 - Speaker 4 Okay, I fucking love this tune. I got some heavy and Tim, yes or yes. If I hear no, I'm just I'm off this podcast Got some really strong G love special sauce vibes from this. Yes, Just the way they owe up. Am I my GD? 0:38:42 - Speaker 1 I don't know, i think I think I'm very familiar. 0:38:46 - Speaker 3 I did not go there, but I will Okay. 0:38:51 - Speaker 4 Right, i mean the. there's a oh dude that it could have been Willie, could have been the wine. I heard that song. The first time I heard that song I was. I took it out for a run and I came home and I like I listened to it again because I just thought it was such a good fucking song, because it's a weed. reference to may not necessarily be about them listening to Willie Nelson. It's like they were smoking weed or they were drinking wine, absolutely Yeah. The opening, like spacey guitar licks The dobro which I think he's playing. there's a dobro in there that he's playing which kind of gets sort of like a banjo slash guitar vibe. Oh God, just. 0:39:40 - Speaker 1 I feel like that lyric that you just quoted, though, could have been the Willie Nelson, could have been the wine. That's like one, like when he wrote that he should have just put the book down, put on a fedora, long overcoat, grabbed his briefcase, just went home for the day, that's. That's the days. That's the day at the office, that's a fucking. Exactly. 0:40:00 - Speaker 4 That's just a great lyric Exactly dude, no, 100%, it's so good. I was like you know. You know, a line is a good line when you hear it and it's so good you think you've heard it before. Meaning like I'm like right, i mean because it just sounds like it belongs on this in the history of life, Like like someone has, like if someone hadn't said it, they sure as shit should have said it. Does that make sense? Yeah, you know, it sounds like it's just. It's a great fucking line. I thought I maybe quit that line. It's just. It's really the part of this song where Gord starts coming out of the cage. On this record, i feel like that was the moment Somebody gave, somebody unlocked the door of the cage and he's starting to come out, and then the song ends on a random minor chord, which is so weird, it's such a happy, spacey song that ends on this minor chord. 0:41:09 - Speaker 3 I loved that. I loved that about it. So for me this one it felt a little Out of the gates. I need to listen to the beginning of it to see your G-Love reference. But out of the gates. It felt to me a little bit country and a little bit like are we reaching again for some crossover fans Along? the southern belt of the US. Like where are we? What's happening here? You know there's some slide guitar, but is it a song about lost love? You know looking up at the stars waiting for a reveal. You know there's synth work in here again, so there's some sort of keyboard happening, which is fucking cool. And to me, the first lesson I had all those kind of questions going through my head And then I thought at one moment like this is actually a fucking beautiful song. Like it's a little bit of an odd man out on the album, but it's actually a beautiful song. There's this long ending with no singing. It's just mysterious. Like you said, pete, the last five seconds or so, or this just bizarre tune out. It's like I found one quote when Gord was asked about this song. He said this was an interview in 2004,. He said this one asks the question evil in the open or evil just below the surface? That was his comment about this song. So it's like this song to me was super mysterious Yeah, super mysterious song which I fucking love, like I don't need literal storytelling every single song you know. Social themes, i don't know all these different things, i don't need that. Every single song I love you know kind of the knuckleball that comes in. You're like whoa okay, this is reeling me back in to the album in a good way, a way that I'm looking for, you know, i'm hoping for, but still, again, this one felt a little bit odd, man, just the way it fits into the album. They've done this before. They've gotten. 0:43:15 - Speaker 4 They lose green man. 0:43:16 - Speaker 3 Yeah, they've gone on this path of like okay, this one, now we're going to turn off the highway and head down this two-lane road and we're going to stop at this farm and we're going to have an afternoon barbecue with this family, and you know, i don't know, like it's just this one's off the highway. 0:43:35 - Speaker 1 Cool. What do you guys think of the bridge? It makes my arm hair stand up That night in Toronto with the checkerboard floors. There's a bar in Toronto that's famous legendary in fact called the Horseshoe and that references the Horseshoe, the checkerboard floors. Oh shit, that's one of the first big gigs they played in Toronto. 0:43:55 - Speaker 4 Can I get taken to that bar when I come visit Toronto? 0:43:57 - Speaker 1 Absolutely. Let's do it. Sure shit hopes so man. 0:44:00 - Speaker 4 That would be cool. This song is actually the most listened to hip song on Spotify. 0:44:07 - Speaker 1 Oh, wow Yeah. 0:44:09 - Speaker 3 Surpasses. I read something about that as well. 0:44:13 - Speaker 4 What was the one that it surpassed? 0:44:16 - Speaker 1 I can't remember Anyway yeah Well, so it's a hit all around Pop Cage. 0:44:21 - Speaker 3 Yeah, it was a fucking interesting song, right? This is. 0:44:25 - Speaker 1 So we shift gears now in a well, not in a huge way, because this is sort of low tempo or slower tempo. We go to Thompson Girl and you're both hesitating to start Thompson Girl. 0:44:41 - Speaker 4 Go ahead Tim. 0:44:42 - Speaker 3 Yeah, well, you know what's the story about here. I don't know. It's the story potentially about where is it here, This town in Manitoba, thompson, yeah, or it's. You know it's potentially about a nickel mining company up there. You know it's got this kind of sweet, forlorn grunt work somewhere between dream and duty, poking through with all them shoots of beauty. I mean, what is that about? You know, this is kind of a cute, in a way stripped down acoustic song. There's some banjo in there. You know, i've kind of been waiting for, I had been waiting for this type of stripped down, simpler song that you know it's kind of this forlorn, sad song to me at the same time. 0:45:42 - Speaker 1 Probably Pete. 0:45:44 - Speaker 4 I loved it. I thought it was cool. I think I don't know if it's consistent with you and I, tim, but like I really try not to look too deep into the lyrics because oftentimes I'm disappointed, that's why I don't do it. I know you do it a lot more than I do I totally do. 0:46:03 - Speaker 3 I mean it's because of Gord, like Gord Gord. for me, gord merits it. 0:46:09 - Speaker 4 I get intrigued though, but like dude so does. I mentioned Celie Daner earlier. Like Donald Fagan's lyrics are notoriously cool as fuck. But have you ever asked that guy like what he you know what's, what's the meaning of? you know Dr Woo or whatever, like he'll be, like I don't know man, we're on so much cocaine. Back in the day I was just getting shipped to prime or whatever you know like, and I know that's not really the case here. But that line, the way he goes up so high with grunt work, i can't. I'm not even gonna fucking try lest I fucking destroy your listener base JD by singing that line. But when he goes grunt work time between dream and duty the melody is so fucking good It's then there's a part. Um, i don't know if it's like, i don't know, i wouldn't call it the bridge, but it is a bit of a some sort of key change to the regular chord progression. When he goes really high and then the mandolin starts to come in fucking dug that. And then the piano kind of comes in at the end as well, it's fucking cool. I really dig it. Yeah, i liked it First. I didn't like it. I didn't like the chord progression. It just seemed to like, like you said, tim, acoustic. It's sending, like it was like this should be an acoustic song. 0:47:30 - Speaker 3 Keep it that way. Yeah, yeah. But then it grew on me real quick, which is maybe something I would potentially envision. From a stuck in the studio couple days, you know, you'd get to a point to where everybody's kind of burned out and you pick up the acoustic and somebody says to the piano and you talk about is it INCO, inco and the fucking nickel mining, and I, you know, i looked at it a little bit into that in Manitoba and was like, oh geez, here's, here's a historical. You know, just rabbit hole that I can't go down right now. But it just this, to me, is just one of those, one of those songs that fits in well with this whole album And it's something we haven't really had in the past. So it's kind of happy to hear it. Next one membership Who's who's singing backups Somebody found, is it Gord Is? 0:48:28 - Speaker 1 it Gord over. Usually it's Paul Angla, usually Well. 0:48:32 - Speaker 3 I don't think it's Paul. It might be doubled. If you, if you go in and listen again, check out membership and listen to the backups, because it sounds like a woman to me and it sounds really familiar, like I've heard this voice before And I've looked and looked and looked but I can't find anything. It might be one of the guys, just you know, editing it in post or something, i don't know. But there's, there's some beautiful backup happening. This one, though you know it's wasn't my favorite on the album, i'm not going to put it on the playlist There's kind of a big change after the three minute mark with, like this new chorus. Of course it has my fade out at the end. You know there's there's kind of this bigger start to the song, but it's kind of slow in a way. I don't know. It's maybe about addiction, it's kind of a ballad. you know this, this one, it just felt like it didn't really fit in, didn't really wasn't really sure how it was working and it it made me consider you know I've done this a few times that it made me consider the band and what they were feeling you know they're coming in on 2000 here What they were feeling after 10 years, which is long for any band to retain some amount of success 10 years of playing and predominantly being popular in their home country and not even gaining a huge you know the level they deserved in the neighboring USA. So this this kind of made me think about all those things. I just didn't know if it was like about power abuse of power addiction or longing loss, i don't know. This song was kind of all over the map for me, but ultimately the chorus bugged me and it stuck in my head for a little while. I was like, oh, i need, i need some other, i need some other hip song stuck in my head and that's kind of where, honestly, that's where, like blow a high dough, just comes and takes over my brain. So that's what happened. 0:50:50 - Speaker 4 on membership, I you know I have a ton to say about this song. It's kind of like I put in the same categories Poets. It wasn't my favorite song in the record. I liked it, felt it like it was a very drone rock with a chord progression. It's the way it sounded. I love the harmonies. Tim mentioned the harmonies being drawn along by it. Like that line with the harmonies come in The middle, guitar solo where they kind of tease you with the guitar solo helps build the song kind of cool. But then, yeah, the fade out at the end is just like to me. It felt like they maybe didn't have, they didn't nail everything down with this one. That's all I'll say, you know, but yeah we can move on if you want, let's slide over to fireworks. 0:51:46 - Speaker 7 You like fireworks? Yeah, me neither. The frustrating part Never back in old 72 Without school, just a gun, without a gun or trigger. I don't remember a reason. Set me sight of you. You said I couldn't get a fuck about the party. Never heard something true back before You held my hand. We were on the long way Loosing in my grip on Bobby Moore. Never heard anything wrong before I blushed. When these ever sensations get in your way, no doubt this shit me spurred right now By your shoulder, and that an amazing what you can't accomplish now I'm not together every single moment. That's what we thought. We'd be married. We both do deep with the grip of art, of fish chaos, believing in the country, me and you. Christ has a faith in Christ, the sinner cramming Yeah, we've heard all this before It's winter time. The house is solid to the bones, loosing in our grip on this fake cold war. Is it an amazing and a better accomplish When we don't let no nation get in our way? No doubt this shit me spurred right now By your shoulder, and that an amazing what you can't accomplish now, next to your comrades in the nation of fitness, the program regarding some eternal past time, clopping to the mind in a fit of laughter, showing no patience, no tolerance, no respect By your words, next to the distance, contemplating towering, towering star By your words. And in late, never, till there are no stars anymore By your words. And in, straight in heaven, contemplating towering, towering star, till there are no stars shining up in heaven, till there are no stars anymore. Isn't it an amazing and a better accomplish When we don't let no nation get in our way? No doubt this shit me spurred right now By your brand of error, shining up in heaven, contemplating towering, towering star. I think this one thing never goes away And this ones thing's always supposed to stop. Oh, this funny thing doesn't have to go away, and I'm gonna lie. 0:55:41 - Speaker 4 Oh fuck, How much time you got, then Fucking song, this song, i just have the word. It's this fucking rush, rush, rush, rush, rush. Just so much rush in this song. Really, there's a couple of rush references on this record and this is number one. I would say that is it. Gord Sinclair, yeah, so like and I think he would agree with me, because I don't know that I don't know any bass player in Canada, let alone the entire world, would put them up against Geddy Lee. So I can't like, true, Like. I don't think the bass in this song was supremely rushed, but the chord progression, the structure of the song, the lyrics, isn't it amazing? anything's accomplished Is fucking. It's so fucking dude, it's fucking rush, completely Fucking. It's like they should have just made a record with one song on it and sent it to Rush and been like this is for you guys, we love you guys. And dude, i'm not saying anything remotely like they jocked anything. It's an homage in the sweetest sense. It's fucking beautiful. I fucking listened to the song so many times. There's I don't know if he's playing a Les Paul or a Hamer Rob Baker, but it's got some hollow tone electric guitar. There's a line in there Christ in the Kremlin. I'm fucking. The words in this song are fucking spectacular. I bet it just destroyed. Destroyed. The crowd live Like. I mean if they played this fucking live you'd have to close with this or I don't know what you'd play with this. I mean it's just fuck. What's the other line Next year? comrades in the National Fitness Program caught in some external flex arm hang dropping the mat. Dude the lot. This that the way he speeds up that verse and fits all those fucking words into that, and then he goes back to the normal cadence, like when I say cadence I mean like the tempo, not a modal cadence, but like tempo. He goes back to that. I just bet when they, when they all listened to this track after it was mixed, or they all recorded everything, they all just fucking high-fived and hugged each other and had a big old fucking circle 100% Yeah. Dude, it's a fucking. It's one of my favorite fucking hip songs period. 0:58:23 - Speaker 3 Oh, you know what they. You know what they said after they recorded this. They were like this is going to be an every jukebox across Canada. I mean, it's a jukebox song. I mean, really, this is like play something by the tragically hip. Okay, i'm at the jukebox. Stick in a quarter. Oh, here's fireworks. Everybody loves this song. You know, that's that's. I couldn't agree more, pete. I just felt like this could be put on a seven inch only and out in the world. You know it was one of the first songs in a while where, like, i immediately just started snapping my fingers. It was like, okay, this, this song's, this song's moving. I completely agree with the rush references I love. I so identified with this girl. There was actually a girl who said she didn't give a fuck about hockey. I never heard a girl swear and I've never heard someone say that before. It was like there was some whole other world out there which is hard to fathom at times. I don't follow hockey. I totally identify with this. When I go on Facebook and it's like near the weekend it's mostly fucking NFL comments from people I know in Southern California. It's like, god damn, i wish I had a sports filter on my life because I don't really follow any sports. So the hockey the hockey comment, i was like yes, i, i want to hang out with you, let's go drink beers. You know, i probably follow that. It's whatever I just I just identify with that part, it's. You know this, though, you're right, pete, isn't it amazing you could do anything when the notion isn't in your way, believing in the country of me, and you, ah, you know, it's just, it's, it's, this is, it's more. It's more than an anthem. 1:00:17 - Speaker 4 You know, the crazy is so it's so, Getty Lee, though man. 1:00:21 - Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. What's? 1:00:24 - Speaker 4 this, it's, it's spirit of the radio. Okay. That's the song thing you have in so many ways. Yeah, i mean, and I don't think any musician in the band would say like they can you know drum? like Neil Pert? I think the guitar is pretty. It's got some solid Alex life and vibes. like you could fucking compare that guitar wise. but like bass and drums, you can't fucking come close to those, like it's just. but sorry, tim, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but it's just a fucking. 1:00:55 - Speaker 3 That's good. Good, it's such a JD. What JD, what? what were your thoughts on the song? Do you have, do you have memories of hearing the song, or anything, or like? 1:01:03 - Speaker 1 I think it's, I think it's a romantic song, Like. I think it's like the firework of like meeting somebody that is just, you know, absolutely the sparkle of your eye, you know, sort of thing. The context, to give you some context, the goal that he's talking about, the goal that everyone remembers, is when Canada beat the Soviets in 1972. And that was, that was during the Cold War. So it was a big deal, that series, Canada playing hockey against Russia. you know a few games here in Canada and a few games in Moscow. It was a big deal, Like for these Canadian hockey players to go to Russia. Like at that time Russia was so mysterious And there was a very famous goal that won the series by Paul Henderson that everyone remembers. It's one of those moments in Canada, the, if you're of the right age or generation I'm not, I'm born in 74. So it's over my head, But if you were there then it's one of those like you know where you were moments. you know what I mean. 1:02:10 - Speaker 3 It's huge huge moment in sports history. 1:02:13 - Speaker 1 So for him to be just blown away. Like you know, loosening my grip on Bobby Orr, like I just picture, the 16 year old who's in love with Bobby Orr has the hockey cards on the wall, you know, he's just tremendous and all of a sudden he just oh, there's girls out there. Oh, and there's this particular girl who doesn't give a fuck about what, like whoa fireworks, you know. 1:02:40 - Speaker 3 Yeah, great song, Great song. This. yeah, I could have had this song, you know, and had a satisfied meal and went to bed. 1:02:49 - Speaker 1 You and your food All right. Go next to vapor trails. 1:02:58 - Speaker 3 So vapor trails, like I started this one and paused and had to come back to it, i didn't keep going like this, this, this, this was one of the breaks. And now for me, where I was like, okay, i'm not, either not in it enough or not focused enough, let's come back to it and didn't hold your attention. He would not not at the get go, but eventually it did. Oh, eventually it did bring me in. It totally was one of those songs that I wasn't so sure about, but over time was like humming it while walking around the house. You know, there's just to me it has some mysticism to it. There's this mysterious not to say it again but backup singer, whoever is in there. I mean there's some really good backup singing happening, but I just love some of the lyrics. There's nothing uglier than a man hitting a stride. 1:04:00 - Speaker 1 What a great lyric, right Dude And just the way he says it as well. There's nothing uglier than a man hitting a stride, yeah. 1:04:09 - Speaker 3 I can't wait to use that some point in life. You know, watching something happen, yeah, chords, use that line, throw away the rudder, float away, like they portrayals. You know, i get this. It's like, it's this feeling of like giving up. You know, at some point we all, everyone, i think everyone has contemplated, you know, life being different or serious change, or giving up, or you know, we've all had these heavy times in our lives and maybe the song kind of hits on that. There's amazing guitar riffing just towards four minute mark. It felt, you know, just to kind of wrap it up. For me it felt like a produced ending. You know, the fade out was like it wasn't just let's wrap the song up, let's just fade it out, it was like let's produce the fade out. So it was a little, i don't know a little more, a little more orchestrated. But yeah, it's, this song is. This song was a banger. I think it was really good for the spot in the album. I think it was like really fitting. 1:05:27 - Speaker 1 Yeah, because we're well into the second side now. Yeah yeah. Second track, second side, if you're playing by those roles, It has a good place, good place in the album. What do you think of APR Trail's Pete? 1:05:39 - Speaker 4 Well, this is the other thing that I thought was it's not. It's not a Rush reference, but I actually think there's a possibility that Rush's 2001 record Vapor 12, vapor Trails was perhaps, maybe, an homage to Tragically Hip. Wow, i don't know, that's my, that's my in my dream world. I don't know if that's really true, but and I saw them on that tour and they were fucking just amazing. Saw them at the Irvine Meadows man. 1:06:18 - Speaker 1 Such a great show. 1:06:19 - Speaker 4 Never saw. 1:06:20 - Speaker 1 Rush. I was supposed to see Rush on a tour in 93 and guess who was opening for them? Who, tragically Hip Jesus Christ. Wow, on Road Apples. Yeah, dude. 1:06:30 - Speaker 4 I don't know what's a bigger fail That or not partying with them. 1:06:34 - Speaker 1 Oh God, it's the, that's the, that's the fail. 1:06:36 - Speaker 3 They're close. Not partying, I think. 1:06:39 - Speaker 4 Well, we, let's put it this way, we, we, we showed to that concert, i think, and they were they, we were at that time. It's strange, real quick, because I know. but during that time, because 2001 was coming out of the Napster years and years, right And into, like I think it was right where the iPods came out, um, so people started buying music online again, sort of. So bands didn't have money to pay for opening bands during that time, so a lot of bands would tour and be like who's opening? And like there's nobody opening. So we assumed that somebody was opening, for Rush happened to me with pavement one time, but that's another story Um, and we walked, we're, we're racing through the parking lot Because we hear a spirit of the radio, but right into Red Bar Chat after that and just fucking made my, made my life. But to the song. Paper Trails. Um, the fucking vocal melody in the opening verse same. I got the same cadence, Tim. I don't know if you mentioned this as Thompson girl. Um, but the song I loved it. I imagine when they sung this song live, that when Gord sings the line you can throw away the rudder. He probably blows out either part of the low end or part of the mid end frequencies in the fucking speakers at this this, this house, his voice is just at that frequency where, if he really punches it like he could, he could break. He could break some fucking windows, because it's, it's just fucking just the way he delivers that shit. Throw away the rudder, um, uh, what else? Yeah, just that line to me was worth buying the fucking record. Pulled the car over. There's nothing uglier. Yeah. Then a man hitting his stride. Yeah, there's a transition from the bridge back to the chord progression. That's super abrupt And it's so cool because there's no transition. It's just like boom, boom, they go right back into the chord progression and it's fucking cool. I'm not, can't think of any band that I've heard do that. And then the last thing is the line, and it's it's. It's maybe Rob Baker, i don't know who's singing the backup, but Mexicans dressed in beige shirts Crazy line, yeah. 1:09:16 - Speaker 1 Yeah, I've never heard that Mexicans dressed in beige shirts. 1:09:19 - Speaker 4 It's. It's like almost whispered. 1:09:25 - Speaker 3 Wow references you know references, folks who spend their life picking the strawberries and raspberries. 1:09:31 - Speaker 1 We, i believe, Yeah, I would guess so. 1:09:37 - Speaker 3 I believe it does So yeah. 1:09:39 - Speaker 4 Are we going to? 1:09:40 - Speaker 1 rules. You got it, dude. 1:09:48 - Speaker 4 I love the song. It was so fucking cool and so chill. This starts out with those huge cymbal crashes in the beginning. This is the second song in the record that references a pedestrian crossing, talks about a crossing guard not doing their job. 1:10:04 - Speaker 1 So yeah, it's really reference of and the second reference of super farmer. Uh-huh Right. 1:10:11 - Speaker 3 In that same in that same Stan's line. Got some agricultural themes happening. Probably the third agricultural theme. 1:10:21 - Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know I just the phrasing was beautiful. I'm wondering what a bard is. B-a-r-d. 1:10:28 - Speaker 3 There's a couple of references with that. One is it has to do with a Shakespeare reference. 1:10:35 - Speaker 1 That's what I thought, yeah. 1:10:36 - Speaker 3 Yeah, and then the other one is I'm not going to butcher it, the other one has to do with fighting. I have to look it up. 1:10:46 - Speaker 1 Let's just go with Shakespeare. 1:10:48 - Speaker 3 Yeah, it's some Shakespeare reference. 1:10:52 - Speaker 4 And then to the line about the vacuum's got a guarantee. I just that line hooked me in so much because it was so random that I was like really in just pay super close attention to what he said. And the next line that he delivers, which is it could suck a virus, an ancient virus from the sea, is like what the like again put on the hat, put on your jacket, close the briefcase. Fucking. Done your job today. 1:11:23 - Speaker 1 Leave the office, gordon, that's right Punch out or whatever. 1:11:27 - Speaker 4 The whole, that whole stand is fucking amazing. There's a table slide And then oh, by the way, this song, and fuck, there was one other song. God damn this song. and one other song at the record. on the record It's earlier. I want to say it may be something on or say the planet. at the very end of it You hear the word somebody in the studio is cool. Yeah, so it doesn't feel so and there was one other two, one other song on the record that they did, so I was like they did that twice. 1:12:05 - Speaker 1 That's cool. I'm going to need access to your premium sound system. 1:12:10 - Speaker 4 Well, I mean GD, that's. We know this is not stuff we just hand on. It's kind of like you know top secret Clarence, There's a lot involved, A lot of screaming All right, all right, all right. 1:12:22 - Speaker 3 He passed. He's done it. Yes, true, yes, we're adjourning my current, for he's had it. Yeah, i heard the song and I thought Pete loves this song so much And when we come talk about it on the pod it's going to be all Pete. 1:12:43 - Speaker 1 You know how much to say. 1:12:44 - Speaker 3 I thought it was kind of a yonder. I got you know some, some from it, But you know I was like this. The song isn't for me. I thought it was kind of a yonder. I was going to leave it to Pete. 1:12:58 - Speaker 1 We're going to come back in a year because it's going to be a grower for you. I guarantee this song will be a grower for you. 1:13:04 - Speaker 3 If it's not, you guys both have to buy me beers. I can live with that, Yeah, yeah. 1:13:11 - Speaker 1 Okay. Well then let's slide into Sugar and Falls Ohio. 1:13:15 - Speaker 4 Take it Timbo. 1:13:17 - Speaker 3 Yeah, so Sugar and Falls. So this song I thought was basically a huge fuck off to corporate man, to the man. I thought this is like. This song is driving some culture into the fan base. It's probably, you know, was played a lot on the radio. I thought this one you know I could be wrong, but this song to me felt like on the verge of angry a little bit more than usual. I'd maybe really wonder about it live, if this got more raucous, if it got a little bit more I don't know violent feeling. And I think it's because it thematically, which is where I'm going to go, not so much with music on this one, but thematically it Sugar and Falls, in my research. That's the headquarters of Clear Channel, which at the time Clear Channel Corporation was slowly taking over media, especially North America. Yeah, so that's a lot of the references to Grand Falls. You know where the unknown won't even go. Because at this point I mean that line to me says if you're an artist and you're trying to make it like, avoid your Grand Falls, avoid Clear Channel, you know, be careful with what radio you're sending your tapes to your CDs to like this. This is that song that is kind of the band's shout to the world of, you know, corporate media is taking over the airwaves, you know, be aware So that that to me the song has like a mission. It felt like the first time I listened to it. When I got to you know, three quarters, two thirds of the way through, i thought is this song like over five minutes? you know it felt long, but it didn't feel long in a bad way, like it felt like a good, just a really well written song. Like I was kind of digging through Grand Falls, it felt like a five minute song, but it's not a five minute song. I didn't look up live versions of it but I definitely want to find something. 1:15:47 - Speaker 1 Yeah, get the answers to your questions. I can't, unfortunately, answer because I saw them on that tour and I don't remember if they played it, but I can't. 1:15:57 - Speaker 3 It was somewhat rare. I feel like it was probably going to be a rare rarely. 1:16:01 - Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be one that would be, you know, gosh. Well, let me just quickly look up how many times they played it. 1:16:09 - Speaker 3 I mean for people that don't know, Clear Channel took over corporate. I mean took over FM radio. Over time, like so many stations became Clear Channel stations and became programmed. And I remember hearing the transition because, as a big radio listener, being bored in 71, you know, i listened to radio for like 20 years, 15 at least, 20 years and they just completely took over And I remember hearing DJs demeanor changing from independent radio station to now being put into this box And I feel like that's what the band is trying to talk about in this song And I think it's their fuck you to this corporate system of being in a band and trying to make it and just to inspire people to be independently minded. 1:17:08 - Speaker 4 Yeah, it's funny you mentioned Clear Channel only because I want to talk about the song, because I feel a little bit different about the song in some ways than you do, tim, and it's funny, like Tim, i didn't do fucking a pubic here. The research you did for this fucking song. I had to look up where Chagrin Falls was but, and I dug it. But yeah, that's when there used to be a great station in classic rock station in LA called Arrow 93. And they went over to that Jack. You know that Jack format Jack FM, which is just, it's just a guy who like record something and it's like a cheesy line and he

We're taking you on a journey through the Tragically Hip's live album, 'Live Between Us', which was released back in 1997. Our excitement leading up to its release was off the charts, and we're here to share that with you! We'll be dissecting some of the tracks on the album, such as 'Grace, too', 'Ahead By A Century', and 'Nautical Disaster'. Prepare to be immersed in the intimate connection between the band and their fans that this record so beautifully captures.In this episode, we dive deep into the recording process of 'Live Between Us', exploring the incredible energy of the show, and the role the audience played in the final product. Also, get ready for an insight into the potential impact a sax player could've had on the band's sound, as well as a fascinating anecdote about Dave Matthews' tour bus incident in Chicago. Plus, we'll delve into the tough decision faced by sax player David Manning – stay with the Hip or leave with his girlfriend?Finally, let's talk about the Tragically Hip's songwriting process and live performance dynamics. We'll discuss how the energy of the show and the crowd's reactions influenced their performances, and examine the live version of 'Fully Completely', which unlocked the song in a completely different way from the original recording. We'll also touch on the band's influences and listening habits, and how they incorporated lyrics from other bands into their set. So, join us as we unearth the magic of 'Springtime in Vienna' and the excitement its introduction caused among the crowd. You don't want to miss this!Transcript0:00:00 - Speaker 1So, guys, this is Pete here. I'm coming to you with a very important message. Okay, this is serious stuff. I know we joke around a lot on the on the pod, but in all honesty, i'm asking for a favor. I need you to do yourselves a favor. I need you to do your family and friends a favor. I need you to do society as a whole favor. Go to getting hip to the hipcom, click on the bonus feed and join the bonus feed, because there's some pretty next level content or covering everything from geopolitics to UFOs and the tragically hit most importantly, but you're really not gonna want to miss it. So, again, do yourself a favor, do the next generation a favor. Okay, before you, before you focus on recycling and nobody cares about climate change, the more important thing is to join the bonus feed. Getting hip to the hipcom click bonus feed. 0:01:14 - Speaker 2You. 0:01:41 - Speaker 3A live hip record on May 2 for a weekend. What more could I have asked for? It was 1997 and I was getting ready to do my annual sojourn from Toronto back home to Waterford. The hip was still number one for me and this record was something I had been craving since having first seen them live. For some reason, though, it didn't scratch my itch the way I wanted it to. No matter how many times I spun the CD on my discman, i just couldn't get as excited about it as I did for a studio record. Were the hips so good live that it was impossible to capture the greatness in ones and zeros? I don't know, but what I can tell you is the album has aged extremely well and it's often something I go back to when I need a jolt that, for whatever reason, it didn't offer me back in 97. Now, in this episode recorded before his untimely passing, we get into the late Davis Manning. So allow me to acknowledge that now. Rest in peace, davis. If you've been following along, you know how hungry Tim and Pete are for a live performance from the band. Although they'll never get to see them in person, the time is right to unleash live between us onto them? Will they eat it up the way I think they will? We'll find out today. on Getting Hip to the Hip. Long Sliced Brewery presents Getting Hip to the Hip. If you've ever wondered what it would be like to hear the tragically hips music for the first time again, here's your chance. Join music fans Pete and Tim from Portland, who have never heard the band before, on a journey through the hips discography, accompanied by me, their guide, jd. Welcome to Getting Hip to the Hip. How's it going, guys? 0:03:56 - Speaker 5Going great, it's going good. 0:03:59 - Speaker 1Fantastic Couldn't be better. 0:04:01 - Speaker 5Glad to be back. 0:04:03 - Speaker 3Yeah, it is, it is. It's good to be back at it. Okay, before we get into things here, we are talking about the live record that everybody was really waiting for. You know, around the time it came out It was 1997. Everybody had heard that this was a really great band to see live and to experience live, and so we were all longing for, you know, a live record, and when it was announced we were really quite excited And I'm curious how you guys felt. But before we get into your feelings, let's take a look under the hood of this record. This one was recorded live at Kobo Arena in Detroit, michigan, november 23rd 1996. It was released May 24th 1997 for the long weekend. Produced by the tragically hip and Mark Freakin. It clocks in at 70 minutes and 31 seconds and it was released on MCA. All Music gave this a 2.5 out of 5. And here's what they had to say about this. The tragically hip, one of Canada's musical merry makers, are also praised for their raw, sweaty live performances. Frontman Gordon Downey is a real dynamo, lyrically and physically, and his bandmates only support the beautiful live chaos. With that aside, the hip treated fans with their first ever live album, live Between Us, recorded well. On tour in support of 1996's Trouble at the Henhouse, live Between Us documents one of the band's more ambitious evenings. Without any technical tweaking, a very loyal Detroit audience is captured at the sold out Kobo Arena and a very tight knit and fiery, tragically hip is in command. The unity between the hip and their fans depicts something heavy. Downey's random improvising and loose poetic ramblings spark the intro of Grace 2. It creeps along with Johnny Faye's electric percussion and already Live Between Us is a steady, creatively stripped and vibrant. The emotional rage fully, completely sets up the rest of the record, particularly the relaxed ballad ahead by a century Layered backing vocals and plucking acoustics depict the hip's signature sincerity and the sneaky rock snippets of David Bowie's China Girl And the Beach Boys Don't Worry Baby midway through New Orleans' sink and flow without hesitance. Most stunningly is his lyrical rant of Jane Sivarys' The Temple Near the End of the Taunting Nautical Disaster, which also includes a verse from the reaesthetics Bad Time to Be Poor. As a whole, the band is abrasive in a simplistic sense, making Live Between Us an intimate jam between the band members themselves and a shared moment with the fans. The tragically bad men have maintained their beloved status because of such grateful informality. What in the living fuck is a 2.5 out of 5? The only negative word in there is abrasive, and abrasive comes right to the end. It's such a pussy review, wow. 0:07:15 - Speaker 1It's a bitch review. It's like going out on the best date of your life or something and then just saying like, yeah, maybe I'll call you next week or whatever, or maybe I won't. I can't even think of something stupid and shitty to compare it to, because it's so fucking bullshit. Sorry, what a shit. the bed review that is Sorry. 0:07:42 - Speaker 5Well, i have a maybe, maybe, why So kind of the elephant in the room on this recording is the actual show is longer than what they put out for the album And we're missing all these. We're missing, yeah, we're missing all these songs. So if you, let's say, the writer, went to this show in Detroit and was so psyched about it And then a year or whatever, whatever it was, later bought the album and brought it home and realized it was three quarters of the songs and they don't even get the actual ending of the show on the record, and so you're kind of you're like you're playing if you got this on vinyl or CD, you're playing like the highlights of the show And as a very amateur taper and someone who absolutely loves live shows and kind of you know, on some of the bad weeks lives for them, you know, when I listened through this I was like okay, is this just the hits? Like what is this album Like? I really questioned what was going on with it. I absolutely loved it And I loved. You know I have all these comments about everything that I dig from it But at the same time I'm like God damn. So that's when I pursued the search of the whole recording, start to finish, because I mean I have socked away whole recordings of shows And this is not a whole recording. 0:09:11 - Speaker 3Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting, I wonder. I was just going to say it's interesting. I wonder why they did it that way. What do you think, pete? That's what I was going to say. 0:09:21 - Speaker 1No, it's totally yeah, because here's a couple things Like I see what you're saying, but I'm also looking at this from 1996, number one, number two it's on MCA, which at the time MCA was a really large record company. Okay, so you know, you've got, you've got the record company's influence of. oh, i don't think this track should be on there, whatever They take it off. You know they wanted this to be a sellable record that they were going to put out number one. I'm not defending it, i'm just saying I'm just trying to get in the mind of the methodology of what, why these decisions were made. And on top of it, i think nowadays bands will put out a live record and it'll be like you know, because, for example, new Orleans is sinking. You know, nowadays that would be New Orleans is sinking. Parenthetical China girl slash, don't worry, they met me or something. You know they'll throw that shit in, whereas back in the day, when you had a packaged live record, that shit was a no. No, you know, i didn't see it a lot that I remember Either way. Dude, this fuck all music, dude. I think that's the narrative we need to stick with, because they don't know what the fuck is going on. 0:10:38 - Speaker 5It. Just this record blew me away. Yeah, I would say. I would just add that my my only thought behind their low review score is because they didn't get all the show, Maybe they went to it and they saw it and they wanted to hear it all again. Yeah, exactly, or maybe they didn't, i don't know, but it's just the review is written It was a bad way. 0:11:01 - Speaker 3Kindly like it's. so it's such a nice review, really, until the word abrasive comes out and then which is weird And then it ends with like a nice, like they're redeemed, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then it's like 2.5. It's like this person is a hard grader man. That's all I'm going to say. 0:11:20 - Speaker 1But I don't, i don't buy that. Oh, i mean, i see what you're saying, tim, again about the record. You know. But look at, you know, a lot of live records aren't even a whole concert, let alone you're going to put a whole concert. So if a band plays for you know, three hours or plays a three hour set, like the Stones, and they put out a live record, they're not going to do that. Led Zeppelin's How the West is One great live record. It's probably. You know, if you look at the back and the liner notes, it's recorded in Madison Square Garden, it's recorded at the Long Beach Arena. It's recorded different places. It's not one concert. They kind of just took the best takes. 0:11:57 - Speaker 3I do like they used just the Kobo Hall performance because a lot of bands do that for live. They do like two or three nights and they record and they pick the best stuff. 0:12:08 - Speaker 5The actual album is about 83% of the show, so you you miss the whole. Encore There is some. There is some missing there The entire encore you missed. 0:12:17 - Speaker 3So what you do get the end of the record is the Weirothal, which is the last song they played. But whatever we missing, it goes Grace to fully completely springtime in Vienna. Trust my arm gift shop ahead by a century. The luxury 700 foot ceiling is not on there. 0:12:33 - Speaker 2Courage. 0:12:34 - Speaker 3That sucks, is courage on there. 0:12:36 - Speaker 5Daredevil is not. Daredevil is not Daredevil is not. 0:12:40 - Speaker 3Flamenco is not Scape is at hand for the traveling man is not, which is crazy because that's on the next record. So they were showcasing Wow, yeah, yeah, if anyone's got this. 0:12:52 - Speaker 5No, i'm thinking, don't wake, daddy. 0:12:55 - Speaker 3Yeah, please send an email to Tim at getting hip to the hipcom. He's a completist. I need it. Oh little bones man That would have been fucking rad. 0:13:06 - Speaker 5Yeah, ender with me locked in the trunk of a car would have been the ominous Ender. But then you got little bones, so new, the very end. I mean we got you another recording. You get 82, like I said, 83% of the whole entire show, which is killer. And you know, honestly, a positive there is it gives people access to the hip live who may own like one album, and then they pick up a CD with a bunch of live shit and they're like, oh man, why haven't we seen this band play yet? You know, so that could be part of it. It's a little bit of a teaser without an encore or a second encore. I mean I don't know, though That's all the same time. I've, i've recorded shows and I've sent friends just the encore, just kind of piss them off, but sometimes like from a recording. Sometimes for me, listening to the encore, like the last three, four songs, you're like fuck, yeah, that probably was an amazing show. I get it And you know this recording without hearing the, on course I pretty much get it too, but just specifically, i talk about the show. 0:14:10 - Speaker 3Yeah, well, this is what I want to. I want to sort of level off with the audience. You know how we're going to approach this Yeah. And you know, you came up with the idea of approaching it like it's a real concert, like let's give, give it a concert review. My curiosity starts to go from there. What do you look for in a live concert without referencing this record? What, what are? or, if you want to reference this record, what do you look for when you go to a show like that makes it a great show. 0:14:40 - Speaker 5Yeah, well, oftentimes it's the crowd. Man, if it's a rock and roll band, if it's a band with energy, you know there's. There's a electronic duo that we love, that we've seen play a handful of times. That really gets their crowd going like it. Just, oftentimes it's the crowd. You know, at the beginning of this album, as I listened to it, i thought, okay, probably not, because I didn't research it much. You know, i was excited to hear a live album But I thought, you know, it's probably not. The stadium sounds big, though definitely arena feeling and crowd sounds pretty hyped. They weren't. They weren't screaming like a bunch of fucking going crazy, drunk ass Canadians. They were hyped But it wasn't. To me it didn't feel like a home show. Well Tim, the ABV in the back blue is not that high Just well, sure, sure, sure, sure, Sure, sure, but you know, but when I did research it I was like, oh, i was like, oh, detroit, okay, detroit shows must have been really fun Because you know, you're in the US, you're in the USA. Whether or not is highly regarded in Detroit is like there is their home away from home. So the crowd for me was either way like hitting the mark that the crowd was pumped in the just right off the bat I had wondered about you know, because I'm nerdy that way like how it was recorded And I thought about the time and the era and what people were using to record stuff. So I did a little bit of research on that note, just to see, like what the heck or see if there are any notes about how they recorded this thing, because back then it was like dat recorders or radar recorders. I mean it was like the kind of the evolution beginning evolution of digital audio recording which people could then just pump out on the scene or mini discs around. 0:16:28 - Speaker 3At that point I forget when I had, i had a. 0:16:30 - Speaker 5Yeah that was, that was the yeah, those things were cool. Yeah, that was around the same time. You could yeah, you could plug those straight into a sound board and get like CD quality. So I was curious about that as a taper person, you know, just to hear how it went down, because it overall you know whether it was on my home sonosystem or my basement PSS premium sound system or on my my home headphones, my Bose headphones, like it sounds fucking good Like whoever. Whoever posted this did a great job. 0:17:06 - Speaker 3What did you think, pete, in terms of your rubric for measuring a live show? 0:17:13 - Speaker 1It's a it's a weird question because you know, and Tim comes from a place of recording a million shows in his history On me. I look, i gotta kind of look at it back. We gotta kind of look at this backwards because, number one, we worn out the show. You know, if we judge it by the crowd, i think, but by anybody's standards, you know, the show that Peter Frampton played at the Fillmore West for Frampton Comes Alive was was a banger on the show. But if you know anything about that record they dubbed in the audience of the crowd. Do you know? do you know that, right, tim? 0:17:47 - Speaker 5Boo. 0:17:47 - Speaker 1I say that Boo, i mean it's, it's, it's. the American Idol effect is of of making things seem like they're popular when they're not. 0:17:57 - Speaker 5Now I have a. It's the fucking laugh track, you know it's a laugh track. 0:18:02 - Speaker 1So I have a weird take on this. This record made me, gave me a weird take on this band as a whole that I'm really looking forward to show you guys. But just to your question, jd, before I get ahead of myself. I think the the show you can. You can hear how good the show was from the band and what the energy that the bands convey, what Gord Downey's saying and how he's interacting with the crowd, cause you never know with the crowd again. The Frampton record but based on what you're hearing from the band, it was a fucking rager. Yeah, whoever was at this show you know, kiss my ass, i wish I, i wish I was there, i mean, you weren't there. 0:18:49 - Speaker 3She was an email. JD at getting hip to the hipcom. 0:18:52 - Speaker 5Hey, jd, question for you. 0:18:53 - Speaker 3Call her Go ahead Yeah. 0:18:55 - Speaker 5Yeah, jd, you know. So after I did research this show a bit, i came upon the reason why it's named what it's named. Do you want to share that? And yeah, so it sounded like in the early days the hip had a sax player. 0:19:15 - Speaker 3David's. 0:19:15 - Speaker 5Manning, that's right, am I right? 0:19:17 - Speaker 3Yeah, talked about him in the first episode. 0:19:20 - Speaker 5So that that kind of rocks, yeah, yeah, I forgot all about that. I forgot all about that, obviously, and and I thought, oh my God, and I just I just kind of sat there and wondered about everything I've listened to and how there has been no sax player. And there could have been a sax player, you know, and there's, and it recalled to mind some bands that I love that have horn players that you know really feels like part of the soul of that band with this horn player. So can you imagine, like recordings up to this date, having this sax player? that's like you know, i don't know, would he have been the equivalent of I don't know the guy's name, the guy that plays um Phil or violin for Dave Matthews, you know, wouldn't have been this overwhelming presence, so that that first of all. 0:20:08 - Speaker 3First of all, dave Matthews, barf Barf. 0:20:12 - Speaker 5Oh, i know right, the best, the best story about Dave Matthews Segway is the story about his tour bus in Chicago. Do you guys know this story? 0:20:22 - Speaker 1Oh yeah, the the, yeah, the shit. 0:20:24 - Speaker 5Yeah, So he's he's. 0:20:25 - Speaker 1I thought you were going to say Clarence Clemens of uh, yeah, that's where I thought it was No, Yeah, Dave Matthews tour bus. 0:20:32 - Speaker 5You know they're whoever's on the bus, but they're driving in Chicago across an abridge and they're uh, they're black water tank, which is all the poo, poo and wee wee supposedly broke open and burst onto a bunch of tourists on a on a boat platform, boat going down the river on a scene. 0:20:50 - Speaker 3Oh my God. 0:20:51 - Speaker 5So Dave Matthews has actually shit on fans, so that's, that was pretty fun. Anyway, back to this. 0:21:00 - Speaker 3Hey, today's all about live music. 0:21:02 - Speaker 1Metaphorically and and sonically. 0:21:05 - Speaker 5I I last week I turned down the opportunity to co-host that Dave Matthews podcast. Um, so so this fellow uh, uh, uh, dave, dave is manning It was at a crossroads with staying in the band or not and was given to ultimate him by his girlfriend, who I wonder if he's even still with her doubt it. And, um, she, she noted that that the hip lives between us, to him, to Davis. So she was like you know, the band lives in between us in bed, the band is in between us. You got to pick, you got to pick one of us, pick the band or pick me And he's supposedly chose her, and this was spray painted on the wall of I don't remember some building I don't know in in whatever Queens Yeah, in Kingston, and, uh, you know when, it was lived between us. So I think the actual record is lived between us, but everybody calls it live between us because it's live. 0:22:06 - Speaker 3That's why I've all got it live between us. But yeah, i knew that, but I knew that story. But I still call it live between us. I don't yeah What man. if you've got to take on that Pete, do you? 0:22:15 - Speaker 1But isn't that a? isn't that a dick move, dude, like I mean? it's a I got to. How do you for the band in their current form to name it? 0:22:24 - Speaker 5that is like I think it's awesome. 0:22:28 - Speaker 1I think it's awesome too, but God. 0:22:29 - Speaker 5Here's the code It says. There, in an alley that now stands beside a tattoo parlor, he painted a huge mural featuring a weeping eye and a shooting star, which is hard to decipher. In the art He painted the hip live between us in large letters across the wall and an apparent reference to he and his lover. In the end, davis chose his girl, left the band and continues to be an active musician to this day. The mural stood until the summer of 2005, when it was painted over by local business owners. His artwork was used as the CD art, which is fucking hilarious and perfect for the hips 97 live release. The disc, in clever turn of phrase, was called live between us. 0:23:12 - Speaker 3That's very cool. 0:23:13 - Speaker 5Perfect. It's just perfect. I love it. That right there just made me love the whole thing. It was like great story, Great story. 0:23:21 - Speaker 3So let's start at the start. With the opener is Grace to a good opener. Hello. 0:23:55 - Speaker 2This is for the real statics. We're all richer for having seen them tonight. All right, i got a son, came up shocked with the lines. Today was the day that I was already behind Steal the drink. Our brothers and sisters, our young all-ter체 Note Uhl are here at the site. Come on, blir gladzis. I can hear a singing. I'm turned off from No, they don't know no more. That's why I'm here, for I kept them downtown, but I'm ready for you. I went well into Dona Nace and Brace to leave. I'm a little bit alone. I was, so I'm a little bit. I can't hear you. Can't you fucking hear that man? Can't you fucking hear that? Can't you hear what I heard? Look out, jesus Christ, big fuckin' bear. The secret rules of engagement Are hard to endorse When the appearance of comfort Meets the appearance of force, when I can guarantee They've been a knock on the door, i can't hear you. I'm turned off from here. I'm turned off from the door. That's why I'm here, for I kept them downtown, but I'm ready for you. I went to scale and it's my strength. Yes to you. I didn't give a fuck. Where the hell did you get an inch? I never fought for a thing. I never fought for anything. I got a palace wage gone to do. I'm like so many of you. I see around me Nothing to live or die for, no limits in tune. Help, help, no, no. I was growing up in town. I was growing up in town And I was gonna pick up my friends And I know you'll come to some kind of dead end. Oh, but I can swear there's a bear. I can swear there's a place where all is A bit to be manned And you can never be a piece of cake. And then there's everyone Around you smiling and everyone Around you styling. You got nothing to worry about. And then you got nothing to worry about. You got nothing to worry about. You got nothing to worry about. 0:29:31 - Speaker 1So fucking Lulie, absolutely, i mean. 0:29:34 - Speaker 5Perfect. 0:29:35 - Speaker 1It's just the way they come into it. I pictured like I don't know if they had played arenas this big before I know they toured. They sounded so tight, they couldn't fuck up if they tried, you know. And this band just sounded so good. Yeah, what was this? How far was this show off of their SNL release? SNL appearance. 0:30:12 - Speaker 3Oh well, snl was March of 95 and this was November of 96. 0:30:22 - Speaker 1Yeah, i mean, they knew then that this was a banger of a tune. But just What a way to ease in, to get everybody to get the water warm in the bathtub. Man. 0:30:36 - Speaker 3Did you dip your toes in the bath there, timmy? 0:30:40 - Speaker 5I did, i did, and it's good. The jets came on right away, so in the tub. So, yeah, i loved his phrase. Sun came up and shot through the blinds. Today was a day And I was already behind. You know, like I First of all, great line, great, just random thing. And it was also like I don't know. I love that phrase Cause to me it was like Sun came up and shot through the blinds. Today was a day And I was already behind. You know, and this is this to me, is a line that says it's kind of okay, you know, it's okay to be behind. You know, i don't know, i just you could read this line in so many ways. You can read it as like You're fucked, or you can read it as fuck it, and I love that about it. So, you know, there's there's just the grace to as a starter. You know, the first time I heard it as a starter live was that 99, woodstock, woodstock, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the first time I heard that was like okay, this is what gets the crowd going, this is, this is the shot in the arm energizer, and you know this, this is it for for this show as well. And to try, i love he has. Gord has one of his now iconic Woo. Yes, this is like, yes, the crowd is psyched, we're psyched. You know, that's to me going back to the crowd, kind of making the show. There you go, he screams. He's got like he does this droll, this guttural scream. You know, come from downtown. You know it's just, i just love it. I love it yeah, i love it when singers kind of stray and do something a little bit different Than the recordings and just get fucking into it, and that's that's how this started, for sure. 0:32:35 - Speaker 3And it carries on into a song that I don't recall how you felt about it on the fully, completely record, but to me this live version is so like, almost like psychedelic-y and like maybe it's because I've been listening to it high, i don't know but there's something really awesome about the live version It just unlocks live. I'm curious if you agree about certain songs, in this case, fully, completely Getting unlocked in a live version. 0:33:17 - Speaker 1The perfect word you use is unlocked. I couldn't think of a better word to use, because I don't know if they make them anymore. They used to be these 12-cylinder Mercedes-Benz two-door coupes. Do you remember those, Timmy run around. 0:33:35 - Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, they came with like an extra, extra gas tax on the They're ridiculous. 0:33:40 - Speaker 1Who needs this 12-cylinder? 0:33:46 - Speaker 5It was like a luxury gas tax in California that was added. 0:33:49 - Speaker 1That's how I feel about this song. 0:33:52 - Speaker 5And. 0:33:52 - Speaker 1I actually remember, because I remember thinking about it too. Jd, this was a song that I didn't say. I didn't like it but it wasn't my favorite on the record. I remember specifically because it was the title track And this was like again, a nice Mercedes, i would say a Ferrari, but whatever, whatever, your nice car is that you like sitting in your driveway and being like that's really cool, that's really pretty to look at. Okay, then you get in your fucking Honda, your fucking shitty beater, and you drive to work, but the live record gives you the keys to open it up and to fucking take it for a spin And it was, oh my God, yeah, exactly Like I really enjoyed this tune. It made me like and respect this tune for what it is And yeah, i mean think of all the reasons why. But again, you know I'll say that for a couple of other tunes. But I loved it, kim. What? 0:34:52 - Speaker 5do you think, man, i related to it quite a bit. You know I loved his singing, ranting poetry, whatever. At the beginning He's talking about being in love with the old rule being raised by TV. I mean, that's me, you know, that's my childhood. But I will add the end of this, which I couldn't find any reference on. Maybe someone else can find it. But towards the end of this I think is the first time he starts singing lyrics from other bands at the show And I didn't find this noted. So he, towards the end, he starts singing. Please take me there. He sings there's a light that never goes out. These are lyrics from the fucking Smiths from the 80s And I have a feeling, you know, i'd really just wish I could know what the band was listening to from early through later, like what they were really jiving with. You know what they listened to on the bus and what their influences were. If they were carrying around CD player, fucking Walkman, whatever. You know what they were jamming to cause. There's more see early, more see lyrics here. I might be wrong, It might just be a coincidence, but when I heard that the first time I was like fuck. 0:36:12 - Speaker 1Well, we know what Tim was listening to, please. 0:36:16 - Speaker 5One of my first. Honestly, that's one of my. My second tape was the Smiths Queen is Dead. 0:36:22 - Speaker 1Same here. 0:36:24 - Speaker 5That was it. So, yeah, i felt like this took it bigger. I hear the song in this order at this show. It took it a level bigger and louder and took it a level more aggressive. It was like Pete, you know the V12, you drive your shitty Honda, but you get in a car. it's a V12. It's like a jet boat, you know. and this I felt, i felt fully, completely, really dug in and kept us accelerating. I love your old ways, i love your old world ways is what he sings towards the end And I just that's so romantic to me. That's like pulling on my heartstrings because, you know, I'm a Gen Xer. There's so many times in my life where I want to throw my iPhone across a room. Yeah. 0:37:11 - Speaker 1Yeah, the torque it gave us, i thought one of the. I thought the crazy part about springtime in Vienna was and if I remember correctly, he introduces it And I don't know if the crowd goes nuts for it. But I'm just thinking to myself like the minute this song starts. I'd fucking lose all my shit if I'm in the car. 0:37:35 - Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, losing my shit. 0:37:37 - Speaker 1And the fact that he introduces it is almost like, kind of like, is he doing it because it's a light record? And there's maybe people that are gonna buy this record and not be looking at the back of the CD when they when it's on, i mean I don't know because, whatever, but this song, i mean just when it goes on the fucking chorus, it's just it's madness too. 0:38:02 - Speaker 5It's Yeah, you love this song. 0:38:04 - Speaker 1You hate to be loved, right? Yeah, i love this song and I just feel like if I I can hear the band having so much fun playing this song, you can hear it. 0:38:17 - Speaker 5Yeah, you can, you can. You can hear it a lot of times throughout this whole performance. Yeah, you can hear the amount of fun, i think, through the bass that's happening. You know there's some really the bass guitar so many times to me is like fuck, these guys were into it, you know. And springtime in Vienna, just like that. I felt like that was the point in the show, where you're like either chugging down your second beer or you're lighting up another spliff or whatever. Like this is like serious momentum. twist my arm, which was next, you know That to me felt I don't know that's that to me for this position of this show. This is like where you were dancing, Like this is super fun, like it felt danceable. You know, it's like I'm not standing still at this show. That was my comment for that one. 0:39:14 - Speaker 1I got some weird takes, i mean and these aren't necessarily related to this particular songs And the first thing I want to say is that I feel like like when I was young, jd, my dad used to tell me when I was playing in a band, you need to play with dynamics, right. And when you're young and you're just fucking want to turn your amp up louder than the guy next to you, you don't know what the fuck dynamics are. And it's ironically. You know, i don't have to give away my age, but I'm up there And I still I'm trying to play with people who don't know what the fuck dynamics are. Some people get it, some people never get it. It's just the ability to listen to one another, to play to the band, not to just play your instrument right, and this you can just tell. This band is weathered by the road. They have amazing dynamics to start songs like well, springtime in Vienna gift shop, especially a head by a century which builds. So just do this, do what is. Isn't it the most streamed song of the band period? Yeah, yeah. 0:40:31 - Speaker 5Head by a century. 0:40:32 - Speaker 1Yeah, head by a century, which is funny because race two on this record has more streams on this live record than head by a century. 0:40:45 - Speaker 3Oh really. 0:40:46 - Speaker 1Yeah. 0:40:48 - Speaker 3Oh wow, well, maybe it's not that, i'm not sure What. We should look that up, you know. 0:40:55 - Speaker 1You know me, though, but yeah, I think they know what they're doing on stage clearly. 0:41:03 - Speaker 5Yeah, you don't want a drummer or a guitarist or a fucking keyboardist. I'll talk a little, reference the doors there for two seconds. You don't want another musician in your band getting in the way. You know, like I actually, who is it, i'll recall. But anyways, i heard someone once say yeah, i just can't have a drummer who gets in the way. You know, you don't want somebody just cranking themselves too often And I think that's kind of what you're saying. Pete, this show, you know it. just it gets this momentum going to where you might all of a sudden realize oh shit, we're already in song five or this is already the sixth song. Like, i feel like their shows have this build up. I would assume now, after hearing this one, that their shows kind of have this build up and then they start carrying people. you know, before you, yeah, before you realize it, you're like, oh, my God, you know, it's probably halfway over or something, i don't know. It's like a century when it, yeah by century, when it started on this recording, that kind of felt like a mile marker with Gordon, his goofy start, when he's doing his one liners and making sense and not making sense at all, like that. that was kind of like the check in to to like yeah, catharsis one Yeah. That all about right, right. That to me was like let's see how into it the crowd is. You know, maybe we'll make somebody fall over with these statements, i don't know. But that, but there's a moment in a head by a century on this recording that I've kind of been waiting for to hear these guys live, do And that's like a right around the three minute marker. So they just start riffing a little bit more. They dig, they dig a little bit deeper. They reached that, you know, five fifth speed of the V12 Mercedes and they're finally on the stretch of freeway where they can let it go a little bit. And that's that's what happens with with this song. I've been waiting, waiting to hear that. So that was, that was good, that was good for me. 0:43:10 - Speaker 3Gift shop I wanted to ask you guys about, because gift shop to me feels like grace two, in the sense that it's like an opener Like. It feels like an opener to me. So I'm just curious about where it gets put. Like you've you've talked about this car metaphor you know you get grace two to open the show, then fully, completely, which sort of like you know, gets you, gets you sort of high, and then springtime in Vienna to get you jumping up and down And then twist my arm is like an old classic at this point. So you're like wow, like, like Tim said, you're dancing, And then gift shop sort of resets everything. 0:43:52 - Speaker 2You know what I mean. The rest of the world becomes a gift shop. So you're like wow, like Tim said, you're dancing. You're like wow, like Tim said you're dancing. You're like wow, like Tim said, you're dancing. You're like wow, like Tim said you're dancing. You're like wow, like Tim said, you're dancing. I don't know what to believe. Sometimes I even forget. And if it's a lie, a terrorist may be saying A beautiful love, a dangerous time, we get to feel a smile. I'm high up above. I'm high up above. I'm high up above. I'm high up above. I'm high up above. I'm high up above. I'm high up above. I don't know what to believe. 0:47:43 - Speaker 5I wish I knew what to believe. I knew what to believe. Close the window. You'll hear the sound of death. Run, run, run, run run. 0:48:38 - Speaker 1I feel like gift shops an opener too. Absolutely. If you want to use the car analogy, that's cool, but if we're powering a big amplifier with a car battery, it's like it's got some juice, it's got some sound. It's really pushing. You're waking up the neighbors and you hook up a second car battery. Now all the tubes are really lit up. Gift shops. It's just like Grace II and that it's another opener. It's the nitrous oxide on the engine. It just puts the show forward even faster and harder. 0:49:28 - Speaker 5I agree with that. I think it's not my favorite song simply because it's. I feel like it's. I don't know we're up to bat against a pitcher. You know you're going to get it on. It's an easy one, the chorus is easy, it's sing-alongable. I think gift shop could be an opener of the show, but I feel like it fits here well, because it's like dude, we've had the basses loaded twice. We're going to have the basses loaded twice. Let's just fucking keep bringing them in. And that's gift shop for me for sure. 0:50:02 - Speaker 3A lot of the baseball. 0:50:04 - Speaker 5Yeah, that was for you, buddy. 0:50:06 - Speaker 3Basses loaded twice. So the basses were loaded with Grace II, fully completed in springtime in Canada, and then gift shop ahead by a century and the luxury which is. This is a cool thing. If you're exploring Hiptim, you to Hiptim and you want to explore, there's a website called HIPBASE H-I-P-B-A-S-Ecom And it's got like every lot. It's like setlistfm, except for it. It's got super detailed statistics Like so, for example, the luxury this was only the 19th time that it played the luxury live. That's interesting. Yeah, it's like it's an older song at this point, but they've only played it 19 times. They only ended up playing it 65 times in total in their career. 0:51:01 - Speaker 1I feel like it's a good. It brings it down a little bit. It it, it. It mellows it out. You know, i mean being as that ahead by a century was such a popular song, like the crowd was going I mean they were going to eat shit right. When that song started, as it was This kind of like you know, take some away from the edge for a little bit. It's a really cool song, super cool bass groove. I love that. Yeah, one thing that really showcases Tim Is that on your guys' end, That's on my end. 0:51:38 - Speaker 3I think, yeah, that's JD, i come from downtown. 0:51:42 - Speaker 1One thing that Tim mentioned about drummer not getting in your way. It's crazy Again because, like my thoughts on this record are more broad and as opposed to individual songs, but I felt like like Gord Downey for the longest time and listening to the records and listening to it at this point has been the draw, and not in a bad way, but I'm saying it in the context of what Tim said the guy who's in everybody's way And I don't mean that in a bad way because he's such a fucking talent, absolutely And this was the first time where I was actually and I feel kind of like a fucking douchebag, because when it comes to the whole entire band I mean the entire band you really hear like whoa, these motherfuckers are good musicians, these guys are Yeah. And that's really hard to come through on a record because you don't know when what's recorded, how it's cut together. 0:52:42 - Speaker 5Yep. 0:52:42 - Speaker 1All that. When you hear it live you're like, okay, this is the way it sounded there And everybody sounds so good. So it's, you don't hear and I don't mean that again at this respect of Gord Downey getting in anybody's way, but like he's so good It's sort of hard to not Have that guy overshadowed. Yeah, yeah, the band, but live you don't get that vibe at all. On the records I sort of do. The records are really smooth, this far sort of, but on the fucking live performance holy shit. 0:53:16 - Speaker 3Yeah, and that's. It's funny because that was one of the questions I literally just wrote down. I was going to ask you guys if the band, if you feel differently about the band now that you've heard them play live, and you just answered that exact question, do you get what I'm saying now about being sort of an improv troupe? 0:53:35 - Speaker 5Yes. 0:53:36 - Speaker 3Because Gord will sort of carry on and do his own thing and they still have to end a song And they don't know if he's like how far he's going. Or sometimes they'll just end a song and go into, go right into something else And he's still sort of like finishing a thought or explaining an idea or whatever. 0:53:59 - Speaker 1The musicians clearly all listen to each other enough to know when to where things are going, You know. 0:54:07 - Speaker 3Yeah, And they're just as in charge as he is in a sense. 0:54:12 - Speaker 5I have to wonder what that would have been like if Davis was playing sax and all this, you know might not have been. It would have been different. Could you imagine just having a horn blowing in here and there? Yeah, like I said, having horns and bands and having a fit. but oh it may have been, I don't know I think like in excess. 0:54:34 - Speaker 3You know, they were good with the sax, yeah, but yeah, it would have been different for sure. 0:54:38 - Speaker 5Last night we were listening to this band that I loved, loved, from Boston, called Morphine. If anyone hasn't listened to Morphine, you got to check them out. They're no longer, but they were a three piece and saxophone, bass player and drummer, and that was it. It's one of the perfect examples of a unique rock and roll band where saxophone fits in and leads and doesn't take over, because it was such a unique trifecta of you know of a band. But you know, i just I think where was I going to go with this? I think, yeah, i think it would have been so different. I just circled back to the luxury. I commented on this before. It's noted on the internet, of course, but I would love, jd, for you to to play the end, maybe, of the luxury of this one and then blend in, come as you are from Nirvana, cause dude, it's the same. I mean they, they, the band was listening to Nirvana. It's just the same guitar, the same bass. It's pretty fucking cool, and I've noticed that the first time I listened to the luxury, and it's completely evident in here as well. 0:55:57 - Speaker 3But the luxury came out in 91. How much art came out in 92? 0:56:03 - Speaker 5Well, they heard it, i swear. I mean it's timing or not? 0:56:09 - Speaker 3Or Nirvana heard it. 0:56:11 - Speaker 5Yeah, nirvana heard it, who knows? 0:56:12 - Speaker 1Yeah. 0:56:13 - Speaker 5But anyways, courage, So courage. I love courage. It couldn't come at a worse time. 0:56:47 - Speaker 2Where something more familiar, quickly something familiar. Can't change my words, it doesn't matter. Sleep, watch so fast, asleep in a motel that has a lay of hope And piss on out of your background And piss on three eyes around your face. Can't change my words, it doesn't matter. Can't change your words, it doesn't matter. Can't remember, it doesn't matter. Can't change my words. Time. It's pretty snowy in here. Snow is so merciless for old country. There's no sample explanation for anything important Any of us do and yet a human tragedies, obsession or necessity of living with the consequences of depression and depression. Can't change my words, it doesn't matter. Can't change your words, it doesn't matter. Can't change my words, it doesn't matter. Can't change my words. Can't change my words. Can't change my words. I'm a child of the church, god. Snow is so merciless for old country. There's a spite of everything that's happening. It's a spite of love. Can't change my words, don't you worry, i'm a child of the church, god. I'm a child of the church, god. Snow is so merciless for old country. 1:00:57 - Speaker 5Can't change my words. Can't change my words. I don't know. There's something about this song that it's positive. It's. You know, it's something I can't turn off when I hear it, Like I got to go through the whole song. I got to sing the chorus One of the coolest parts. The bridge, Yeah, yeah, it's good. One of the coolest parts of this live recording for me, of this song, Courage, is you can hear the crowd singing a little bit Like Gord stops. When Gord stops singing, the crowd carries the lyrics for him. There's a brief moment of that, which I just adore when bands do that, when the crowd is so into it that they just stop singing. But I have the question. I don't know, This is a question. Towards the end of this he starts to talk about Montreal and the snow and poor old Montreal, You know, and I guess that's a reveal on a song in the future about Montreal or something. 1:02:15 - Speaker 3Is that true? Actually, a song from the past. 1:02:18 - Speaker 5Oh, oh, oh oh. 1:02:20 - Speaker 3It was a song that was written for Road Apples. Oh, that's right. It never came to light until much later on, but they always played it. They always sort of kept it in the back pocket and would pull it out and play it occasionally, and there's a live recording of it that just came out in a box set. That is a really good live recording. I also have the demo. I have the demo from Road Apples Ooh, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. So, yeah, it's a great song and it's fucking ooh, it's a tough one. It's about the young man who shot and murdered 14 young women at a school in Montreal, and it happened in late 80s and it's recognized annually as a result. 1:03:10 - Speaker 5Oh, yeah, So I just pulled that up. It's the massacre at Montreal's Polytechnic School, which was fueled by misogyny, horrifying memory of a bygone era. Damn Fuck. 1:03:27 - Speaker 3Yeah, so the song Montreal is about that. 1:03:33 - Speaker 5Got it. There's our heavy sort of segue in there to get us to New Orleans and Sinking. So New Orleans and Sinking for me. I don't know about you, pete, but man, this was fun. On this recording This is like crowd goes berserk. The guitar has this big start, the drums are big. It feels like we've reached top speed perhaps of the show. It oddly slows down about. There's a I don't know if you caught this, pete there's this tempo, little chug, slug, like it slowed down for just a little bit there. Like it really caught my attention that the band kind of went a tiny bit out of sync and I think that was with the drums. But man, this one I think the crowd was just, for lack of a better term banging their heads and just going along and, you know, felt so awesome The fucking David Bowie references at the end talking about where's my little China girl, all that you know that was China girl was like forever stethled to my brain because of MTV as a youngster. You know that was just such a memorable video for me Made me an instant David Bowie fan. It's just I just. New Orleans and Sinking. It might have been, might have been one of my. We're gonna get into it one of my top songs here. 1:05:25 - Speaker 2Silly way down this sidewalk in jail. My memory is muddy. What's this riff that I'm in? You gonna need to sink it, man. And I don't wanna say that I'm a child, i'm a throne. I'm going home, can't do this now. I'm a party, he said. You know yourself. Shut your big mouth. Gotta do what you feel is real. Got no pictures false gods. Got no shivers in these. My fingers she won't open when I'm thinking about those. Yeah, i'm a child, i'm a throne. I'm going home, can't do this now. I'm a party, he said. You know yourself. Shut your big mouth. Gotta do what you feel is real. I'm a child, i'm a throne. I'm going home, can't do this now. I'm a party, he said. You know yourself. Shut your big mouth. Gotta do what you feel is real With my ginocent girl. Wake up in the morning. Where's my ginocent girl? She's too tired, she's too small. Baby, just shut your mouth, she says. She says, yeah, don't worry, baby, everything will turn out alright. There's a light bulb hanging on a wire, sucking up the sun doesn't stoop to fire. Taking out the highlights of the scenery, saw some little clouds and looked a little like this In the river, my feet back up on the banks looked up to the Lord above, said hey, hey, hey, banks. Sometimes I feel so good I've got to scream. He says Georgie, baby, i know exactly what's the change He says. He says I swear to God. He says hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. My memory is funny. What's his clever man of man? he won't need to sink in that, i don't want to sell Trout. 1:10:36 - Speaker 3Trout, trout, trout. 1:11:31 - Speaker 1Trout, trout, trout. 1:12:21 - Speaker 3Trout, trout, trout. 1:12:46 - Speaker 1Trout Trout. 1:13:00 - Speaker 5Trout, trout, trout, trout, trout, trout, trout, trout. 1:14:13 - Speaker 3Trout, trout, trout, trout, trout, trout, trout, trout. 1:15:25 - Speaker 5Trout Trout, trout Trout. 1:16:12 - Speaker 3Trout Trout. 1:16:21 - Speaker 1Trout Trout, trout Trout. 1:16:56 - Speaker 3Trout Trout. 1:17:13 - Speaker 4Trout Trout. Questions or concerns, email us at JD at GettingHipToTheHipcom. We'd love to hear from you. 1:18:16 - Speaker 3Hey, it's JD here. 1:18:18 - Speaker 5Hey, it's Tim. 1:18:19 - Speaker 3And Pete Fellows, i'm really excited that you're flying to Toronto on Friday, september 1st for our big party GettingHipToTheHip an evening for the Downey Wain Jack fund. We just need to sell some tickets. How are we going to do that? 1:18:33 - Speaker 5Go to our website GettingHipToTheHipcom and you'll find a link to get tickets to our event at the rec room in Toronto. 1:18:40 - Speaker 1Early burn tickets are 35 bucks. If you go to GettingHipToTheHipcom and click on the bonus fee, you get 10% off, which means tickets are 31.50 right now. If you were to join the bonus fee and buy tickets, you'd literally have to be stupid not to do that. Definitely join us on September 1st. I'll be at the bar putting out the vibe JD. where are you going to be at? 1:19:00 - Speaker 3I'm going to be watching 50 Mission perform some tragically hip songs and I'm really excited for you guys to see them. 1:19:06 - Speaker 5Yeah, and we have a silent auction which we've garnered some great prizes so far. It's amazing what people are donating. Some hip fans are really coming forward with some great donations And again, all proceeds are going to the Downey Wain Jack fund. 1:19:18 - Speaker 3And the Long Slice beer will be flowing because Long Slice is stepped up and they are our title sponsor for the event. How cool is that. 1:19:27 - Speaker 1I cannot wait to drink some delicious beer and also watch the comedy of Pete and I too, because that guy is a side splitter, that's for sure. 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What happens when an iconic band leaves a lasting impression on you? Join us and our special guest, Dan from London, as we reminisce about the Tragically Hip's fifth studio album, Trouble at the Henhouse. We explore the album's lyrical genius and discuss tracks like "Don't Wake Daddy" and "Springtime in Vienna," while also delving into the technicalities behind each track.From the anticipation leading up to its release for jD to the experience of listening to this album for the first time, we'll analyze dark, politically charged lyrics and the unique phrasing, strange tempo, and guitar work that make certain songs stand out from the rest.Step back in time with us as we appreciate the album and discuss the raw energy and chaotic elements that make it truly iconic. With Dan's perspective, we'll explore the album's success in different countries and the sense of mystery surrounding it. So tune in and join our captivating conversation about this timeless musical masterpiece.Transcript0:00:00 - Speaker 1Hey, it's JD here and I'm with Pete and Tim and we have a really big announcement we want to make. Are you strapped in Good? Mark your calendars for Friday, september 1st, as long-sliced brewery brings to you getting hip to the hip on evening for the Downey Wend Jack Fund. 0:00:22 - Speaker 2Join us at the Rec Room in Toronto for a night of music, unity and making a meaningful impact. This event is dedicated to honoring the legacy of the tragically hip, while supporting the Downey Wend Jack Fund. 0:00:32 - Speaker 3Immerse yourself in a powerful tribute performance by 50 Mission, celebrating timeless classics that have shaped Canadian rock history. We'll also wrap up the podcast in a memorable way by doing our finale live that evening, but it doesn't stop there. 0:00:48 - Speaker 1This event is all about making a difference. So we've got a silent auction with prizes. you've got to see, from Blue Jays tickets to tragically hip ephemera to kitchen appliances. If you're looking for something cool, chances are you'll find it at our silent auction. 0:01:05 - Speaker 2All proceeds for the evening will go directly to the Downey Wend Jack Fund supporting healing, reconciliation and positive changes for Indigenous communities. 0:01:13 - Speaker 1Tickets are on sale June 1st and can be picked up by visiting gettinghiptothehipcom and clicking on finale By attending Getting Hip to the Hip, you're not only enjoying a night of incredible music and comedy, but also contributing to a brighter future. 0:01:30 - Speaker 2Join a community of like-minded individuals who believe in the power of music and unity Tickets are only $40, so mark your calendars and visit our webpage to secure your spot at this unforgettable event to celebrate the hip with fellow hip fans. 0:01:45 - Speaker 3Getting Hip to the Hip. An evening for the Downey Wend Jack Fund promises to be an experience that leaves a lasting impact. Please join us at the Rec Room in Toronto on September 1st and be part of something truly meaningful. We'd love to see you there. 0:02:02 - Speaker 1For months leading up to the release of the hip's fifth studio long play, i felt a palpable sense of mystery about what the band was going to do next. One day that feeling became a reality as I logged into my York email from the hip instructing me to visit a URL. At the URL was a long road leading to a horizon and a bolt of lightning flashed through the desert sky. What the hell was this, i wondered out loud to my friends. To them, though, this was just another hip record, but to me this was an album coming from a band that was white-hot at its apex or so it seemed at the time and poised to make something memorable. I was intrigued and delighted when May 14th 1996, rolled around and I opened the beautiful gatefold CD with the mysterious cover I say mysterious because I can't say for sure if the dog on the front is the menace or the hero Thanks yawning or snarling. At any rate, from the opening strains of Gift Shop through the last notes of Put It Off, i was musically stoned. This album was like hash, putting me into a body buzz that I couldn't explain with words if I tried. That was my experience with this record. What was your experience, and do we have any idea at this point what Pete and Tim might think? Now we've also thrown a curveball at you because we've got a special guest on this episode, and that's Dan from London. What will he think? Let's get right to it on this episode of Getting Hip to the Hip. Long Slice Brewery Presents Getting Hip to the Hip. If you've ever wondered to yourself what it would sound like if two people who had never heard of the Tragically Hip before got taken on a tour through their discography in chronological order. well, it's not going to sound something like this, because today we have three people. We have a special guest, that's right. I am proud to introduce you to Dan from London. Dan, how's it going? 0:04:55 - Speaker 6Good, all good down here. Even the sun is out today. 0:05:00 - Speaker 1Oh, the sun is sort of out here, but it's cold. It's very cold, and I'm joined by my usual cohorts, pete and Tim from Portland. How you doing fellas? I'm doing good, i'm great, you know Just awesome. 0:05:19 - Speaker 7Dan has been sunnier there since the Queen pass. That's what I heard. 0:05:24 - Speaker 6No, No, the whole place is in decline at the moment. Put it that way. 0:05:32 - Speaker 2If things are not good. I thought you were going to say since Harry and Meghan left. Oh, thank you. 0:05:42 - Speaker 6Listen, listen, I am not a royalist, so don't ask me anything about any of that. It's not my concern. 0:05:49 - Speaker 2Me too, dude. I do not follow that crap at all. And people are just like did you see the thing with the, with Harry's? And I'm like who the fuck has time to follow that shit? No, really, dude. 0:06:03 - Speaker 1A lot of people apparently. Yeah, apparently. My sister, my sister, it's a whole industry for having sex, you know. 0:06:14 - Speaker 2It's like, it's like Disney, when they I don't know if you know the pin people. No. I don't know what Disney is personally. 0:06:24 - Speaker 7Well, yeah well there, yeah, there's a. 0:06:27 - Speaker 2I mean, because I grew up 15 minutes from Disney. My guys, right, but they have these pins. They're like you know those. you know those If he was my babysitter Yeah. It was actually actually, actually Donald was, but that's no. there's. there's pins that people keep like lapel pins And like you know, i don't know, And like there's like this weird subculture of people who collect these pins and trade them and like, like you can go into a store at Disney and ask them to trade one of your pins. It's very, it's like furry level. No Punks to anybody listening who's a furry? 0:07:11 - Speaker 1Not that that's, yeah, there was hopper audience. Thanks, trying to get furry. We're huge in the furry huge in the furry, in the furry demo. Oh man. Well, today we are here to discuss the band's fifth full length LP. It came out May 14th 1996. I remember it well because it was like my third year of university and we had a computer lab and the hip were one of the first bands I remember that had like a website and they had this ominous picture of a road with a lightning bolt at the end of it and trouble at the henhouse coming soon, you know, and it was like wow, i cannot wait for this record. This is going to be so good because it was coming off, you know, such a triumvirate of records road apples, then fully completely, then day for night which I adored as a teenager. So this record was highly anticipated by me. But I wasn't sure what to expect, given the sharp turn from fully completely and day for night. What was it going to be? another sharp turn? Was it going to be more of the same? Was it going to be a subtle difference? I didn't have a clue And I'm curious. This one Dan will be for just him and Pete, because they've been doing project from the go. I'm just curious what your initial thoughts were on the record in that regard. 0:08:53 - Speaker 7Or no, it was Pete's favorite, So I'm just going to click commute and take a little nap, go ahead. 0:09:01 - Speaker 2Pete, Oh, I thought you were asking Dan first. Dan, where do you go? Well, just to start off all music, that website, you pulled those ratings from JD. 0:09:18 - Speaker 1Yeah, they butchered it. Fuck those people dude. Two out of five. I didn't look it up, oh yeah, two out of five They can go. 0:09:28 - Speaker 2Yeah, i mean disgusting. This is the record that I love so much And, to be honest with you, this last week, listening to it, i even come to love it way more than I loved it before. I don't want to. I don't want to. You know, spoil the spoil the porridge, just chat, because I got a lot when we go song to song. But this fucking album made me not just be thankful that JD has allowed us to be on this journey with him, but made me really like this morning, when I was writing some notes, i was like God damn, i feel so ashamed. I never saw this band live. It's like I remember I had a chance to see David Bowie before he passed away and I blew it. I didn't do it, i just was like, eh, you know, and then he dies. That's painful, it's like this. I feel ashamed. They never saw this band live. So I mean, this record means a lot to me. 0:10:39 - Speaker 1It's very loose, fitting right. It is like live sounding And I think they recorded a lot of it. you know, again, this is the first record they recorded while they recorded it at the Kingsway again, which is where they recorded Day for Night. But they also in the interim had built a studio in a town just outside Kingston called Bath And this was the first thing that they released to us, that we got to hear that was done in that Bath studio. So there's that. 0:11:21 - Speaker 7Yeah. I felt it had, you know, next level all the way around. I think it was just the next level All the way around. Sound production I'm always, like I've said, talking about the drummer in the bass guitarist working together, and this one was next level. I think this album was really good. It was similar sentiments as you, pete, you know, with the live comment. That's happening to me more and more for sure, because there's a couple songs on here where I thought maybe as a recorded track, this one, i'd rather hear life. You know that happens. 0:11:59 - Speaker 1That kind of happens. Make sure to point those out when we get there. 0:12:03 - Speaker 7Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 0:12:05 - Speaker 1Yeah, all right. so, dan, this is your. this is your first taste of the Tragically Hub. Yeah, and I'm wondering how you approached it. 0:12:17 - Speaker 6based on that, there's no approach Just listen and listen and listen and just see what forms, see what grows. I mean, i had initial impressions and then a lot of those just completely transformed. Yeah, so the journey isn't it which an album should be, but it is difficult not having a reference point with the band and the previous work And even things like you know where, where would they are in their career at this point. you know how big word A and again is. this, is this? I don't know. is this, is this a sort of offbeat turn for the band or not? I don't know. 0:12:55 - Speaker 1Oh, that's interesting Oh you can you, can you can answer a question from a previous podcast, because I was going to say, to quantify you know your your comment the record did six times platinum in Canada, which is 600,000 copies In America. Six times platinum would be 6 million copies. Is the system the same in the UK? Like did they talk about? like platinum gold, yeah, so diamond, all that shit, yeah. 0:13:27 - Speaker 6But, but as you say, i think, isn't it sort of like economies of scale? So doesn't it be based on the population, i don't know Or does it base itself on world? why, i don't know you know. 0:13:40 - Speaker 1That's why I don't, that's why I don't know, like in the UK, what's platinum? do you know? How many records do you have to sell? 0:13:47 - Speaker 6I've never sold that many records, i can tell you. 0:13:51 - Speaker 1Oh God, i don't know, we'll have to look at it, okay, yeah, again, if anybody knows info at fully and completely dot ca, that would be cool to put a put a button in this subject. Any other comments? 0:14:08 - Speaker 7The picture for us? did Yeah, yeah, it's for Dan, did you? can you paint the picture for us? Did you like listen on headphones at home, or kind of what was your, what was your first listen scenario? 0:14:18 - Speaker 6Okay, commutes to work basically here. So a lot of this has been on the road And then when I ran out of time towards the end of the week, a lot of it from home as well. But I much more appreciated listening to this on the road, and for me that is on the brand new section of London underground, the Elizabeth line, and you know that starts off going through a real, you know, urban landscape past the Olympic Park before descending into tunnels. So I get that. You know I get a subterranean vibe going on as well as passing through urban stuff. But a lot of it was great for, yeah, just traveling, especially passing through the rain, you know, yeah sure, sure Cool. 0:15:04 - Speaker 1I know that commute, dan, that's so cool You do. Well, shall we crack open this record and put on side one? 0:15:17 - Speaker 7Yeah, yeah, let's do it Yeah. 0:15:19 - Speaker 1All right, we open with the very spacious and vibey opening track. This is similar to day for night. You know an opening track that is almost built to be played live, like it just sounds like. It sounds like it almost is live. In a sense It's gift shop. Who wants to go first? I'll go. 0:15:51 - Speaker 7So I saved this album for a car ride and then it didn't listen to it again. I listened to the whole thing on two car rides and then it listened to it again until I took the Amtrak from train from Portland to Seattle. So, dan, it was, it was fun to listen to, like you did on the train. I thought this one. The first time I heard this one I thought it felt danceable, like I was happy, like it's, it's got this tempo to it, like toad happened, like it was just sounded like a good, positive opener. Yet it's like Blake, it's kind of a Blake song. So that juxtaposition to me was fucking awesome. I was like, damn there, this span reels you in and can pull you apart in a couple of different ways at the same time. The who does the synth work for them, the synthesizer, and this one's really cool. 0:16:48 - Speaker 1It's interesting. I don't know the answer to that And if I look on the, if I look on the wiki page, it's got like the band listing and it doesn't have any additional band play. I could get out the liner notes and yeah, but I but I don't know offhand. 0:17:06 - Speaker 7Yeah. 0:17:06 - Speaker 1I mean, there's great right. 0:17:08 - Speaker 7Yeah, but there's and also there's like a minute and a half build up, which I love, you know. so this, this was a banger of a of a start off. I was happy. 0:17:21 - Speaker 1Nice Yeah. What did you think? 0:17:26 - Speaker 6Yeah. so as an opener I mean it's good, It's a builder. I mean you know good, moody, atmospheric star, and then, yeah, you've got that sort of growth, that little step up into the second verse and then it goes into like the you know, fully fulfilled chorus, basically because you've already heard a downplayed chorus before. And then, yeah, from that point on it it's just going, it's great And it really feels like it's going to lead you into something next. And I like the guitar work at the end as well. He almost slidey, sort of sustained. that tricks you into thinking the guitar's going into reverse on a few occasions. Lovely. 0:18:07 - Speaker 2Cool Pete I mean, what a fucking, what an opener Dude. I mean I put myself in the in the camp of like, if I was a, if I was a young hit fan and this was just coming out and, having heard the previous records being excited, this is the record store and then just this, being the first track on the record, will lose my shit. The line. The pendulum swings when that hits. It's just fucking. And I listened to it on because I have this record courtesy of Mr JD, had this record on vinyl And so my wife's got a pretty sweet turntable that we run through. I wouldn't say it's, it's, it's, it's. It sounds really good, but listening to it in the car, listening to it on headphones, there's that oscillating. You, tim, you said it was a, was a synth, but I don't know if there. Maybe it works for that. I thought maybe there were other parts of like a guitar effect that was like this A lot of these weird guitar effects that I that. 0:19:17 - Speaker 7I yeah, yeah, that's what really layered in on this one. 0:19:22 - Speaker 2Yeah, a lot of them. And then there's like a bop that I wrote bop, bop, da bop bop. I can't remember a melody of it, but just a little something towards the end of the song. Some backup, just just yeah it's a great song, yeah, but what is wrong? And it was a single too. 0:19:43 - Speaker 7So, but I was a little nervous. I was. I was, you know, hoping Dan wouldn't be like guys. I stopped at this one. I just can't do it anymore because, I have to tell you the first, the first couple albums that you know, there were times where both Pete and I were like fuck, all the fans listening to this are going to think we're fucking assholes, you know. But so so at the start of this one I was like let's keep going. The horse is out the gate. 0:20:12 - Speaker 6Yeah, it's just opinions. We're not killing anybody with this, surely? And don't call me surely? 0:20:26 - Speaker 1Um we live, to survive our paradoxes. Springtime in Vienna. 0:20:33 - Speaker 9Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. 0:22:04 - Speaker 4Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. 0:23:00 - Speaker 9Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. Springtime in Vienna. The bomb is just inside Territory of his own. The spinning from the new time. 0:24:19 - Speaker 4We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. 0:24:50 - Speaker 6We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes, we live to survive our paradoxes. 0:25:50 - Speaker 1We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. 0:26:20 - Speaker 7We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. 0:27:01 - Speaker 2We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. We live to survive our paradoxes. It's unlike any other U2 album It's a cool record. It's a cool record. It's a cool record. 0:28:40 - Speaker 8It's a cool record It's a cool record. 0:29:04 - Speaker 2It's a cool record. 0:29:11 - Speaker 6It's a cool record. It's a cool record. 0:29:31 - Speaker 1It's a cool record. It's a cool record. 0:29:51 - Speaker 7It's a cool record It's a cool record. It's a cool record. It's a cool record. It's a cool record. It's a cool record. 0:30:50 - Speaker 1It's a cool record. It was on the. They played New Orleans, the Synchon, and in the middle they started playing this little jam and the lyrics went as follows So like vulgar, vulgar, vulgar, put some, put some coins in the swear jar, gord, and you know, tweak this song into something that became the biggest single in Canadian history. That's got to be why they played it last, that's got to be why. But you are right, it does stump you that. The last lyric is disappointing. You's getting me down. Oh boy, that shivers down my spine. 0:32:06 - Speaker 2Pete, what were you thinking of this one? I wrote down that line to the melody line. The guitar I love the half step flat that he does. It's kind of strange on the ear, it just lands right with me. And then the vongos, the percussion. When the drums come in after the rain falls, it just Yeah, i don't know that it's Oh, it just got buzzed, man again. Anyway, i love the song. I thought it was fantastic. The last thing I'll say is that the melody line that's when the horn had stung me. That melody is just fucking so good. God damn, i wish that guy was still alive So they would see him alive. Man, sorry, i'd say. 0:33:19 - Speaker 1Mr Dan. 0:33:20 - Speaker 6Yeah, i can't really improve on much that Pete said. I mean it's, um, it's lush, you know it's, it's. It's a beautiful little track and it builds up in the right places. And, as you say, rain falls in real time. When that kicks in, i mean that's like, isn't that like kind of almost like halfway through the verse, you know? so it's another time to kick in, But when it does it's, it's emphasizing what it needs to do, and I just love technicalities like that. I think that's why I love most of the first side of this album. It's, it's full of little things like that, you know, little formal technicalities that are in the background that just get in there to build things up. But I say I had such a hard time getting past this track. This is the one that just firmly embedded itself and made me come back to this album for more, you know, but I just it's just hard to get past that track, but eventually I did, which is good news for all of us. 0:34:16 - Speaker 1Well say keep, keep. Keep the wagon real rolling then and tell us what you thought. I don't like daddy. 0:34:23 - Speaker 6Okay. So following on by yeah from that, which is the best selling single, Yeah, you'd want something that does well. And yeah, don't wait, daddy, doesn't disappoint. Yeah, Space is opening. I love all of the base on this as well. I'm not so keen on the, you know kind of the sort of slower, don't wait, daddy section, But it has its place And I just, I just love yeah, every everything else. I mean the lyrics again are fantastic. Again, the bass at the end is a really nice sort of kind of base bend in there really, with the whole, you can stuff your void of your astronaut Asteroid. Yeah, And the. I think the lyrics to this are great as well. There's some, there's some key lyrics in here as well. I like it, Love the pace. I think it's great. 0:35:29 - Speaker 1Wicked Yeah. Any other lyrical faves in this one Pete for you. 0:35:37 - Speaker 2I can concur with Dan. I like the, the chorus itself. I didn't see how don't wait, daddy, fit in, but I fucking love the song. You can stuff your void with an asteroid, That part when he goes really high. There's a part when he says you're, you're damned as he whispers it. 0:36:04 - Speaker 1Yes, It's just, and then it doesn't he go, doesn't he whisper it and then, and then it's right after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:36:15 - Speaker 2It's a fucking great band. The baseline to your there's. There's a lot of amazing bass work on this record, but this is the first song where I was like whoa. Okay. Everybody, everybody's clearly starting to master their instrument in this band at this point, am I? 0:36:38 - Speaker 6they're not just fucking you know a bar band anymore. 0:36:45 - Speaker 8Clearly. 0:36:45 - Speaker 7Yeah, jd, is this. is this truly the Kurt Cobain, song? Is this the one? In what regards sorry. Is it this song kind of have the heavy reference to Kurt Cobain's passing? 0:36:58 - Speaker 1Oh, absolutely, i mean that lyric that lyric off the top, like just imagine, just imagine the, the I don't even know the word the imagination to come up with a concept. You know that, like Kurt Cobain reincarnated is like a sled dog somewhere in the tundra, you know, Sighing and still sighing though, And then licking his face. Just what great imagery. And then I don't know how much the rest of the song is Exactly about, about Kurt Cobain, but it's got another one of my favorite lyrics in it as well, which is you teach your children some fashion sense, And they fashioned some of their own, And I fucking love that. I just love that. 0:38:05 - Speaker 7Yeah, i don't have any more to say. I think everybody has said it all It's a good, it's a good heavy one And it's there's a good gore. Fade out of even his singing, you know, like disappearing off into nothing. 0:38:20 - Speaker 6Yeah, good, good. The final lyric is sing to end all songs. To end all songs, which is again in itself as a paradoxical bit of madness. Yeah, it's great. 0:39:16 - Speaker 9And then I don't know how much the rest of the song is Don't play daddy, don't play daddy, don't play daddy, don't play daddy, don't play daddy. You can scalp your boy in the air, stirrionettes hurtling toward the air. You can drop the bomb at the stores of town when promises reverse. Don't play daddy, don't play daddy. It's the perfect time now for a plentiful joy. They're all asleep by pastels. It's time to hear your voice. I sing to end all songs, to end all songs. I sing to end all songs, to end all songs, which is again in itself as a paradoxical bit of madness. Don't play daddy. Yeah, thanks a lot. 0:43:34 - Speaker 1Well, tim, do you want to kick off Flamenco? 0:43:38 - Speaker 7Flamenco, slow, quiet, kind of this politically dark, gorgeous song, i like to sweep the air and weave the sky. Stamp for feet for everyone. If I ever have to tell one of my sons that you might need to prostitute to teach how to take a compliment, i mean, there's a hell of a line right there. Oh, my God, this song, for being, you know, a number five, slow one, which I think fits well in the cadence of what's going on so far, yeah, i like it. That has a place for sure. 0:44:24 - Speaker 2Pete Hi JD, you know I love this song. I still haven't completed the cover of this song that I was working on, but I just love this song. I think that's probably one of the coolest signs to Tim. you're right, it's so. it's so cool, it's so unique. I would say a million things about this song but just like when you go back to the first record, you can't. it's like having a child that's born on the day it's born and then immediately fast forwarding and not imagining that the child's going to one day grow up and be, you know, this amazing, influential person or cure cancer, or like an amazing whatever the hell. And like that's where we're at right now, because this song is just from what we started out, in my opinion. Damn it, i keep getting buzz man. I'm sorry. 0:45:32 - Speaker 1I don't know where I'm coming from. 0:45:32 - Speaker 2I think it's this mic. I think I have a problem with this mic, If there's something that's uh. 0:45:41 - Speaker 1I'll get it when I edit. I'll get it, though, because I'll be editing your track and I'll get all of what you got. 0:45:46 - Speaker 2Yeah, well, it's what I'm hearing, but anyway, good, good point. It's not what I'm saying Yeah. 0:45:55 - Speaker 1I love special mics. I record what you're hearing. 0:45:59 - Speaker 2Okay, yeah. 0:46:03 - Speaker 1Special act. 0:46:05 - Speaker 2You're like our government. Um, it's a great song. How do you how? 0:46:10 - Speaker 7I have to ask, pete, how does JD know how much you love the song? Do you guys call each other up and do you play it for him, usually late at night? What's going on between you guys? 0:46:23 - Speaker 1I'm on the 15th floor and one day I looked down and there was Pete with a ghetto blaster. And I was like and I was like turn it up, stupid. I'm on the 15th floor. 0:46:41 - Speaker 2Well, and I mean Flamenco music is the is the dominating genre of music. that in great tone. 0:46:50 - Speaker 1It's the dominating genre of music where I met, So that's probably what drew me to the song first was just the name you know Well, every year on the tragically hip fully and completely feed, we do a pod list and all these great tragically hip cover bands submit songs And I release that usually May long weekend. So because we released this new show May long weekend this year, i'll have to push that back and make it a birthday pod list or something like that. We'll see. We'll see how we play it out. 0:47:32 - Speaker 6But yeah, Flamenco, fucking dynamite right there, yeah, just you know, with just coming back to this song, It's, i don't know This is, this is one that I need to listen to more. I think it's just one that's kind of got lost on me. I haven't got that many notes on it. You know it's, it's, it's just weird. I don't know what I'm, what I'm, what I'm missing on this song. You know where this song gets lost on me, so can you guys explain what you love about the song? 0:48:08 - Speaker 2The, the nature of the song being. Because if you listen like I'm, tim Hads as well, obviously the previous records there's nothing, there's nothing remotely close to this type of song with the keyboards, the melody, the lyrics, the, the phrasing, which he's super unique As far as somebody who phrases their lyrics. But there's nothing like it. It's so not even left field. It's not the same. You know that Jules Winfield line? not the same fucking sport, it's not even the same. It's not even close to anything they've ever done. It's just different. So it's for me it makes me want to like listen more intently and be like what the hell are they doing? What are they thinking? This is not like what they do. 0:49:02 - Speaker 7You know, i just I just thought of fit as part of their evolution, of all the albums we've heard so far. If I would have heard something like this in an earlier album you know, song post five it might have felt like it was a little bit more, it might have felt a little more unusual, but to me, for the era you know, this was what was it 96? 96. Yeah, for the style of music coming out then and a lot of bands having these slower quiet songs, you know, even even some of the harder grunge bands were still doing slower quiet songs. It wasn't always my favorite thing, but this one just fit in the fit in the peg. well, for the slot. I didn't have a ton of notes either, dan. I just thought, you know, let's keep moving. The songs are working still. Let's keep going. 0:49:51 - Speaker 1And to me, like I'll comment, I just think it's one of his greatest lyrical achievements, Like I just that line alone. You know, maybe a prostitute could teach you how to take a compliment, But then the way he phrases it like it's so strange. So if you, you know, if you write it out like, but it just works, And Yeah, I really appreciate that. 0:50:20 - Speaker 2You know, you asked Dan another thing, just to give you a little bit more context too, at least for me and JD. You alluded to it right there. As simple as the song sounds, it's not at all simple. It's one of those things like tapping your stomach and rubbing your belly and tapping your head or whatever. That seems easy, but it's not. The tempo of that song and playing it on like a guitar is odd. The phrasing is really odd. To try to sing it you'd have to sing it exactly like he does, otherwise you can't find where the words go. There's no. Do you know what I'm saying, dan? Like it's-. 0:51:10 - Speaker 6No, I completely understand that. yeah, Yeah, there you go. I'll go back and listen to that with that in mind. 0:51:16 - Speaker 1yeah, Maybe we'll check in with you later on in the season. 0:51:22 - Speaker 7Maybe Pete'll show up and serenade him, who knows? 0:51:29 - Speaker 1Pete has to feel about Yeah, okay, Yeah how'd you feel about 700 foot ceiling, Pete? This was a single. 0:51:35 - Speaker 2I really liked the guitar work, which was just random like no rules. I thought the bridge was a little strange in the song. Wouldn't be my first choice of it. I'm just kind of the way they approached it. The this note is on a lot of songs on this record, but I definitely got some Alanis vibes on this, the Overdub vocals, a lot of what she did on the first track on Jagged Little Pill what I really want, i think Maybe that's not the first track anyway Really cool. Love the ending I would say probably of all the songs, and I love this record. My least favorite song on the record, perhaps one of the- Cause. 0:52:34 - Speaker 3The other ones are just like everything else he typed in first. 0:52:39 - Speaker 1Well, we were on try to ride, though too right, like almost the full side of the record that is-. Yeah, yeah, that is. You know there's not like. You can definitely put that side on and rest easy. Dan's nodding his head. So what do you have to say about that young man? 0:52:59 - Speaker 6Yeah, it's a bit of a banger, isn't it? Straight from the get-go? good, as we were saying, that guitar stuff, great, kind of bendy sort of riff as well. But in my notes I've got nothing. Nothing is overplayed here, everything's just right, you know. But when he's doing the whole seven foot ceiling bit, the guitar really holds back and it's almost like a sort of you know, intentional sort of drop out which you know gives it a completely different vibe. But then you get the whole it's part hard bit with, as you were saying, all of the backing singing, which is just fantastic. Yeah, that really, i don't know, just kicks into another dimension as well. But with this I can't get into the lyrics. The lyrics don't like. They seem quite throwaway for this and I don't really get any kind of visualization of scenes or anything. I mean the references to Flood in. I mean, what is all that about? 0:53:55 - Speaker 1Well, yeah, it's definitely like Flood in the Ice is like to build like an ice rink, So like somebody's building an ice rink that you could skate on and play ice hockey likely, you know, out in the middle of the woods somewhere. So it's, the water is sort of got that darkened color from the birch, from the bark that has fallen off the trees and colored the water a little bit. So there's a nice visual there, right Like. but if you, if you're not vibing it, then it flies right over your head, Like you said, and it can sound very throwaway. I don't think this is his strongest lyrical effort on the record by any stretch, but I'm not ready to say it's throwaway either, you know. 0:54:39 - Speaker 7Guys, i thought this one it almost had kind of a celebratory start like song one. but I agree, pete, like the guitar seems like maybe it was mixed in too many times after the guys were done recording. It's kind of a winter angry song, so it made it feel kind of like a staple single for the hip. Just, you know, didn't didn't grab me or pull me in any direction, whether good or bad, was just like okay, this song six feels kind of like maybe a little bit of filler song. Let's keep moving and see what's next on the album. That's how it felt for me. 0:55:18 - Speaker 1So then you're flipping the record over and you're getting butt-swiggling. To start ["Sweet Sound of Patent Approval"]. 0:55:39 - Speaker 8The sweet sound of patent approval coming down in a not quite far Sweet sound of patent approval coming down in powdery sparks. The sweet sound of patent approval coming down with holiday concern. The sweet sound of patent approval coming down in a world of hurt. In my opinion, the drug is ready. In my opinion, the drug is ready. The warm hand of abject approval coming down with throaty veins. The warm hand of abject approval coming down to the fingerboard. In my opinion, the drug is ready. In my opinion, the drug is ready. In my opinion, the drug is ready. ["sweet Sound of Patent Approval"]. ["sweet Sound of Patent Approval"]. The cold-eyed constant approval coming down to freeze the blood. The cold-eyed constant approval coming down to look real close. In my opinion, the drug is ready. In my opinion, the drug is ready. In my opinion, the drug is ready. In my opinion, the drug is ready. In my opinion, the drug is ready. 0:59:02 - Speaker 1["sweet Sound of Patent Approval"]. And, if I'm not mistaken, butz Wigglin. Yes, butz Wigglin comes from the Kids in the Hall, brain Candy. When the Kids in the Hall released their feature film Brain Candy, this song was the not the theme song, but it was the featured song in the film. I'm guessing it was written after having seen Brain Candy and knowing roughly what it's about. Not able to tell you right now because my memory is so poor, but I can see bits and pieces And I'm guessing they wrote it after having watched you know, watched the movie because of the subject matter. Did you get into the subject matter at all, or did you just get into the song, or did you not get into the song? Where were you, dan? 1:00:06 - Speaker 6Yeah, not totally into it. I mean, the contrast between the verses in the chorus is, you know, the verses are all pretty noodly and a bit weird and then it's a very distinctive chorus And it just doesn't kind of work for me. It just doesn't feel cohesive. I mean, i don't mind it, you know, i'm not saying it's bad, but for me, yeah, it doesn't sound fully formed. 1:00:38 - Speaker 1You've heard better on the record, right, yeah, at this point. Yeah, yeah, you've got some context. 1:00:43 - Speaker 6We've come from a greater place than this on the record so far. 1:00:46 - Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. 1:00:49 - Speaker 7Tim, for all those reasons, i liked this one. Oh, okay, i like that. Yeah, like I. I heard that too. I heard that too You went out. 1:01:03 - Speaker 2Tim, you went out. I didn't hear it, like I could barely hear you, and then I just I got zapped. Sorry guys. 1:01:15 - Speaker 8I was in love with it. 1:01:17 - Speaker 7I promise I'll continue with this one. Did anyone hear Lou Reed on this song? Come on, no, i can Go back and listen and think about Lou Reed singing this song because it's there. But this song to me has kind of this locomotive just trying to get the engine going and it struggles a little bit. But I like that about it. It's more raw, like there's this intermittent keyboards in there that seem kind of out of pace with it. Honestly, it reminds me of Paintman a little bit, because it's just scrappy. And oh, let's add this in Does this song have enough? I don't know. Like it just felt different than their other songs. There was just more. It was a little more chaotic, whereas the songs on this album so far seemed pretty polished. I like the ending. You know I like this one. This one caught me off guard and it was maybe briefly, with kind of the Lou Reed reference. Oh, you guys got to hear this. 1:02:30 - Speaker 2What's that? I can't hear anything. 1:02:33 - Speaker 7Can you hear that? Damn it. I have a naval bass, our view is of a naval bass, and the trumpet goes off every morning. 1:02:43 - Speaker 8Oh, It's a wake us up, I guess. 1:02:45 - Speaker 7It's like a pre-recorded fucking trumpet. Yeah, god. 1:02:49 - Speaker 2Cut and call. Can't even afford the trumpet to hear. 1:02:52 - Speaker 7Yeah, i dug this one. This one was the fucking dog you see on the street, and you finally get it to come to your house and you can start feeding it. That's what this song was for me. It was good. There's so much Lou Reed there, though Go back, you'll hear it. You hear Lou. 1:03:10 - Speaker 1Reed, do you hear Lou Reed? I'll read it. 1:03:14 - Speaker 2JD, could you say that again? Do you hear Lou Reed? Yeah, i know I pick up what Tim's put down in that respect. And, dan, i also feel what you're saying about it. I took this record in a lot of different places. Obviously, i have it on vinyl, which, by the way, jd, you've got to make a quick correction. You've been saying this mistake throughout the whole show. We don't flip the record, because this record actually came on two discs. 1:03:49 - Speaker 1That's right, it's a three sided record. 1:03:52 - Speaker 2So just go back and edit it out. Let's go back and edit it all out. I listen to this on the vinyl. I listen to it with my headphones, my computer, with my phone in the car, with what you know, daniel I don't know if you know, but I have a pretty nice, like a premium sound system in my car, so driving and listening is quite enjoyable. No, but I took this album running a lot And this song just burrowed its way in. I loved it, absolutely loved it. Just the line. In my opinion, the drug is ready. It's just so cool. Warm hand of abject approval. And this is, if you again go back to the Europa reference, there's a song on there called Dirty Day. This is that song. It's like, it's almost like they kind of took pieces of that song and made this song, but it's just like that. It's super weird. Lugerty and for sure Tim, for sure, loved it Absolutely fucking love this song. 1:05:15 - Speaker 1Yeah, all right. Okay, well, did that love stick around for a parmint song? 1:05:23 - Speaker 2Oh, most definitely. The opening is amazing, The vocal melody. She's the horrible estate. Am I pronouncing that correctly? Maybe not the way it Canadian? Yeah, Yeah Again. Super big Alanis vibes on this. I love the shit out of this song. It's the fact that Let's clarify. 1:05:56 - Speaker 1Let's clarify In the last episode you mentioned that you heard a lot of production in Alanis, more set first record Jack and Little Pill on Day for Night, and now you're saying it's here on on on the hand house. 1:06:15 - Speaker 2Which is after Jack and Little Pill now, because that was in between. Jack and Little Pill was in between. Oh, I felt like the hip influenced her, and then now she's kind of in turn, return in favor, right, and this song it's it's Tim, tim and Jade. You know this, dan, but I'm taking this, this songwriting class, right now. Laugh me all you want, it's fine, but it's with Scott McMicken from Dr Dogg, and it's awesome because I love Dr Dogg And he's a great songwriter. But they do prompts And this song sounds like. Gord Downey took songwriting class and they gave him a prompt and they said write a song about your apartment. And he, fucking, he destroyed the entire class with it Because this fucking song like the line about like, um, just what our apartment does when we're not around does not concern us, like talking about the plates in the cupboard or something or whatever It's just fucking so cool, dude. It's so cool. And it's not even about that too, i know, in so many ways. 1:07:29 - Speaker 7I can hear the national anthem. Okay, now we're going to try. Yeah, now we're going to try. 1:07:34 - Speaker 1I could hear it. 1:07:37 - Speaker 7This is what we have every morning at this Airbnb, which has the most light bulbs of any any house I've ever been. 1:07:43 - Speaker 1I've heard an Airbnb Yeah that's a lot of light bulbs. You are very well lit. Sorry, sorry, sorry, i was going to say we just take them all, Fucking hell. 1:07:59 - Speaker 7God damn, Nothing like ruining a boner, but the US national anthem Fuck, Sorry honey. Oh, I'm sorry honey. God damn it. We have to try it. Do they do it on it's Sunday morning? Oh, that's why I mean church bells. I think maybe I could keep a boner during church bells, but not the goddamn national anthem. 1:08:25 - Speaker 2Maybe, not. 1:08:26 - Speaker 7That's weird too, maybe not. 1:08:28 - Speaker 2And then, okay, anna comes on your legs. I'm back at it, baby. 1:08:35 - Speaker 7God damn it. It's noon. There's like three more bells still. 1:08:44 - Speaker 1Where did you land on apartment, song Tim. 1:08:49 - Speaker 7You know, i thought maybe it was a bit long. I loved it Overall. I thought maybe it was a bit long and I thought what would this song be live Like? I went through kind of all those questions in my head. I agree with you, pete, that it's kind of a given, a prompt to go right about it, and that's maybe that's in part the simplicity of it for that reason made me kind of not super fall in love with it. Perhaps The idea of pursuing excessive beauty is the comment he made, pete, i love that reference. I kind of dove into that one and thought about all the people that kind of fit that goal. They're, like you know, famous famous actors, or my own asshole self every once in a while. So it kind of gave me some things to think about. But yeah, it's fine, it's fine. 1:09:53 - Speaker 1Where did you land Dan? 1:09:56 - Speaker 6In an apartment, definitely, yeah, i mean, on my notes I've got one of those tracks where you're immediately placed in a scenario. Yeah, this track, when I'm listening to it on the way to work, is always the one that I'm coming up the escalator into the tube station to get out. I've resurfaced And, yeah, it's mellow, i think, like Tarmac. It could be a little bit shorter for me, i think, but it's okay. I mean, i'm not normally used to listening to this kind of track, where it's you know it sort of chugs along a little bit. It's maybe a bit more traditional. Obviously, the structure is traditional as well, but I don't mind it at all. Yeah, yeah, i like it. 1:10:45 - Speaker 1All right, yeah, it's definitely one of my favorites, but you're right at 357,. You know, it's just shy of four minutes. You know, maybe, maybe This is the first record that they produced, like their last record was Howard Vreakin and the Tragically Hip. This one is the Tragically Hip and Mark Vreakin, so, like I think this is sort of their baby in a way, and their baby was perhaps formed in a steady 40 foot stream of coconut cream, wouldn't you say, dan? Oh yeah. 1:11:31 - Speaker 6Yeah, no one saw that one come in, did they? Yeah, i mean yeah. Well, you know, as the fashion dictates, i'm going to like this one because it's a banger. But it's a big banger And, as all bangers should be, it should have, you know, totally nonsensical lyrics. you know think of song two and things like that as well. So it's good. But again, this, you know this really lifts you up after those last two songs. you know I needed this to be in it, i needed the energy, basically, and again, you know it's on here. you know I've just got like. you know there's a, there's a plane taking off at the end and it kind of personifies the track. It's a sonic lift off that does not lose pace. Yeah, interesting. 1:12:22 - Speaker 1All right Tim. 1:12:27 - Speaker 7Tim, i heard pretty quickly in this one, the, the guitar tempo, and it was a little bit, you know, more specific to the era, rock and roll wise, for me, had this kind of indie punk feel and it threw me straight in straight to this band that I was listening to at the time in 94, 95, era 96, probably two from North Carolina. They're called Super Chunk And if you, if you go back and listen to their album here's where the strings come in I would be shocked if anyone from the hip didn't listen to that album during this time, because I went back and listen to that album. There's such good similarities, you know, like I don't want to do another food metaphor, but but yeah, this, this song, it had gripped me a little bit more. I loved it. I loved it, i. When it got to the ending and it kind of cut, and then the fucking jets. I'm like, ok, this is unusual, but I love shit like that. I love hearing sounds, you know, juxtaposed in layers. But when I read about it it was when they record. When they were recording, the power went out in the studio, in the building. At the end of this song, the power went out. So that's why it cuts out And that's why you have this little added tiny guitar layer in there, i believe. But it's, it's the fucking Blue Angels. Here I am sitting across from a Navy shipyard And it's the Blue Angels. That's who's passing? They're like. They're like the US Navy's show team. They travel around and do all their aerial acrobats and hopefully don't crash into the crowd and cost us cost And they cost us you know like one million dollars per second while flying or some shit. But yeah, it's the Blue Angels at the end of this. So you know what the hell is that reference? And they were that recording of the, that recording of the flyover of the Blue Angels was. you know, somebody in the band did it while they were in San Francisco. It's like, oh fuck, here comes the Blue Angels, Start recording and they fucking blended it into the song. So that just made me like an even more I love, I love shit like that. 1:14:43 - Speaker 1So that won me over, very cool. 1:14:46 - Speaker 7Yeah, very cool, very cool recovery from power outage during recording. 1:14:54 - Speaker 1Right, especially if you feel like he just got it. You know like, yeah, what the fuck. 1:15:00 - Speaker 7What do we do now? Yeah, here comes the Blue Angels. 1:15:08 - Speaker 2Yeah I, that's, crazy I mean, i don't know, it does blow my mind. 1:15:14 - Speaker 7That blow your mind. I mean, come on, they're fucking Canadian band. It's not like we're flying the Blue Angels across Canada. They'd hopefully get you know. shot down the bow and arrow, whoa. 1:15:24 - Speaker 1Whoa Hey now. We have cross moves, we have cross. 1:15:29 - Speaker 2All of Canada, sorry, just hold the breath right there Choked on their teeth. 1:15:39 - Speaker 7You can edit that one out. 1:15:42 - Speaker 8I'm you know I'm trying to develop. 1:15:45 - Speaker 1I'm trying to develop some things Good. I love. 1:15:51 - Speaker 2I'm not a big fan of it. I'm not really a fan at all. In the United States military, not those who serve, but the you know. Let's just leave it there. That was that. The apparatus. The apparatus if you will. But I love watching airplanes fly and I do love watching the Blue Angels because it's just cool, It's just and yeah, that's part of the stress out to you And it's like you know it's like watching them watching a thriller film. You know why do people do that. But anyway, this song I do. Like the song, The words, the lyrics just go. Can shooting coconut cream? Okay, all right, there's knowledge you can leave into the imagination there. But the only thing I will say, because I think everybody summed it up pretty well the airplane thing. the same thing happened to me again. If you remember I don't know what record it was There was another airplane sound on the recording. Do you remember JD? 1:17:05 - Speaker 1That's right, you talked about it. You talked about it because you thought you're driving near the airport and you thought it was. 1:17:12 - Speaker 8And so. 1:17:13 - Speaker 2I don't remember what it was. Maybe the first or second record, i forgot, but I took this one out running And I had the record going in the background with a guided run, you know where there's somebody telling you where to how fast to go and slow down and go fast school And I didn't know. I was like is this the fucking recording of the guy to run? And then I take my headphones out and I look up as I'm running. There's no airplane. And then I stopped the guy to run and I was like it's the fucking recording again. And it was the only reason why I said that trick happened to you before when I was driving by the airport And it was because of the fucking hip. How random is that? Like second time lagging strikes twice in the same place. 1:18:08 - Speaker 1Fuck, Pretty random man. 1:18:11 - Speaker 7Pretty random. 1:18:14 - Speaker 1Any other thoughts on coconut cream? 1:18:17 - Speaker 7Great, great track. 1:18:20 - Speaker 1All right, you guys have. you guys have potentially changed my mind on both, but Swiglin and coconut cream Those are those always rank up in my lower tier, which is tough for me to reconcile, because this is maybe my favorite record, like maybe my favorite record, so it's it's. you know it's. it's tough for me to reconcile that it's got two songs I don't like out of 12. How can that be your favorite record then? But now, now I'm going to go back and listen to the butt Swiglin with Blue Reed on my brain, and coconut cream, like, just the idea of like, like, when you said song two, it's like. yeah, okay, there they're just having. it's just fun. It's just, and maybe I'm a little too into flamenco and not enough into the fun that I need to back it down a little bit. But that takes us to track 10. Let's stay engaged. 1:19:17 - Speaker 2Stay on, stay engaged by talking about staying engaged. Let's stay engaged. I love the track. Man, i thought I was banger It's and if you notice that the airplane comes into this track, the airplane from the previous track comes into this one, which I think is really is really cool. The lyrics lies over time. The chords are super simple but really complex. Again, a lot of Alanis vibes, love the solo and a lot of weird guitar effects. The bass is just the bass is really what shines in this song. Just the rolling bass. That's just great. Love the song, really joy. 1:20:19 - Speaker 1Cool. How are you Dan? 1:20:22 - Speaker 6Yeah, well, you know, from the whole jet thing that goes into it, as Pete was saying, you know the lyrics start off pretty much sort of airport referential, don't they? We've sort of latent departures and things like that as well. I mean I like this track but I just wish it went somewhere. I just wish it built towards the end. That's the only thing it's missing really. You know, i think this deep into the album to have something that sits a little bit level. You know, you really feel it. You really feel like maybe you're chugging towards the end rather than accelerating to the end with a great kind of crescendo. So I just wish it had. I just wish it had some other elements, a few more layers had it in at the end. But I did notice towards the end that there is like a layer of weird fuzz towards the end of it that cuts off before the end And then, if anybody didn't notice that, then there's some. I don't know what that was. 1:21:16 - Speaker 7Yeah, i did notice that And I thought that I don't know, this one didn't really have any surprises for me. I agree with both of you guys in general This, it just felt like the placement of it was okay. let me start over. if the ending, dan your comment if the ending had some slight tweaks to it, it could have been drawn out a little bit more, not much. I feel like this song could have been the end of the album, like I was. I was hearing, you know, i knew where it was in the placement of the recording of the album, but hearing like the last one minute of it, i thought if the drums, the drums have kind of this I don't know prehistoric kind of feel and it just feels like if it just fade out and the song could be the end of the end of the whole album for me. but it isn't. 1:22:07 - Speaker 1I'm glad it isn't, because if it wasn't, then we wouldn't get Sherpa. 1:22:35 - Speaker 9I'm glad it isn't, because if it wasn't, then we wouldn't get Sherpa. I'm glad it isn't because if it wasn't, then we wouldn't get Sherpa. I'm glad it isn't because if it wasn't, then we wouldn't get Sherpa. I'm glad it isn't because if it wasn't, then we wouldn't get Sherpa. We were hard, we were Sherpa hard. We conspired against old friends. We said we must live with friends of dark and we died a thousand times since then. We were hard, we were hard, we were hard, we were hard, we were hard. I'm glad it isn't, because if it wasn't, then we wouldn't get Sherpa. Download wwwcdc bringing more video To Share this parts with other 2 people. We can write it down and obliterate it. And the laughter far. let me hear, the love I hear. We can lay down and obliterate it. 1:27:30 - Speaker 1And I fucking love Sherpa. So I have questions. Somebody let me down if you need to, but what do you think, tim? What are you saying? 1:27:45 - Speaker 7I thought the line we must be friends or die. I needed to announce that lyric as applicable for our foursome right now. At the end of this. If you guys were like fuck that guy, tim, what the hell was up with him on that recording, i would have to kill you so we have to be friends, or die. But it made me wonder with this album is this when the guys J&A? did you ever read anything about them doing hallucinogenics? 1:28:14 - Speaker 1Did they ever? 1:28:15 - Speaker 7comment about it. 1:28:17 - Speaker 1I'm sure they must have, because this is the track. This is wonderful. It's wonderful to listen to on a marijuana high. It's wonderful to listen to totally straight as well. It's lull, it's spooky. 1:28:38 - Speaker 7It had this acid trip feel to me, which was a little bit different. Then previous songs, this quiet guitar and the piano in there. The piano, i thought I'm kind of wanting more key type sounds in general to keep adding in layers. It's this new topping that we haven't had much of. So I thought Sherpa was pretty great, but I wanted to know. I couldn't find much. So is this when one of the guys went on this epic journey of a trip, or like? how was this song written? 1:29:15 - Speaker 1Yeah, i've just had it, If anyone out there knows. 1:29:18 - Speaker 7Write in to send JD an email at. 1:29:23 - Speaker 1JD at gettinghiptothehipcom. Dan, where are you at? 1:29:30 - Speaker 6Yeah, it's good, I've got it down as the high point on site too. Again, as you're saying, everything about it spaced out in every way, lyrically, spatially, vibrally, But then it does. I just get the feeling that at the end, after the point where we're, at the point where we love and hate it, It does fly off into sounding like something off the bends by Radiohead. It's just got that vibe to it. The final layer of guitar, the single note, higher guitar stuff, is very much Bend sort of related, which was released a year before, I think 1995. But it's all put together so well and love it all good. 1:30:19 - Speaker 7See, yeah, it's just got beeped again. The electricity in Spain is. You might be having some surge happening. 1:30:34 - Speaker 2That might be a point I don't know. All jokes aside, but this song I mean. You guys summed up most of it for me. I absolutely fucking dig this song. I don't know what was going on, the imagery in it. I was picturing a Sherpa when I was listening to it. Just by virtue of the name It just stuck in my head. And the bendy guitar riff. It's disorienting to the ear. It made me confuse listening to it. It was really cool. I've been thinking of it now because I've heard it so many times the last couple of days. It's that Jeff Bechtoun from The Artbirds. He bends it. You know what I'm talking about. They've been playing a lot of Jeff Bechtoun because he died. Anyway, that guitar riff in the song is very fucking cool. We dug it the line and we spoke languidly. When that hits right after that line, it's so fucking cool. There's piano reverb. That is just. Tim, you mentioned pavement earlier. I can't think of a B-side tune that reminded me of, but I heard it on here too with that piano reverb. We've died a thousand times since then. Super, at the very end of the song the chords go to major. I think it's definitely the best song on side two or side three. I guess we're saying Side four, but it's side four. 1:32:33 - Speaker 1No side. Four no side four, it's up there. No, there's no side four. Yeah, that's right, because the fourth side's blank. Yeah totally It's like why was Alley Totally? 1:32:45 - Speaker 7There you go. Okay, Great, very strong. 1:32:51 - Speaker 1Put it off. This is where we wind the record down and get ready to put it away, regardless of whether you're listening to it on a CD or MP3s or albums. This is it. This is what you get from 1996. We have to wait another two years for the next long play. Does put it off. Do the job of an ending track in your estimation, tim? 1:33:23 - Speaker 7Yeah, i think so. This one got me. It kind of had all the fixings for the recipe. There's definitely some storytelling. This album, i think, musically, gripped me more than storytelling compared to past albums, lyrically But this one had it. This one checked the box Talking about how There's a whole reference with how the Nazis stole art across Germany and created this Traveling art show to show all the degenerate artwork and they had museums that they graffitied the walls of And hung these paintings that they stole from all these fucking liberals or whoever they fucking plucked them from. This song is kind of like the dog off the street and you realize how that it's beautiful. Anyways, there's a reference to Eric's trip, which is, i think, the second Sonic Youth reference I've picked up, which is fucking cool that they're referencing Sonic Youth. 1:34:31 - Speaker 1Well, it's a reference of a reference, that's right, that's right. Because it's referencing the Canadian band Eric's trip, who's named after the Sonic Youth. Okay, yes, true. 1:34:42 - Speaker 7Okay, double, double one there. Anyways, you know that I love to hear there's some fucking sitar going on, totally yeah, right, in the background. 1:34:51 - Speaker 1That's what that is, isn't it? 1:34:52 - Speaker 7Yeah, yeah. So I'm sure we'll hear that again. Like this album just based on Sherpa, i was like, okay, who's doing a little acid and writing some of the songs? Because that's coming out a bit, i hope, because I just love the experimental part. It's a big closer. It turns down into this beautiful quiet ending. It was the closer I needed. It was a great tune. It was a loaded hip closer of a track for sure. 1:35:32 - Speaker 1How about you Dan? 1:35:36 - Speaker 6Well, one of the phrases I've used to describe this track is heavy menace. It's foreboding isn't it? It's stark. You've got these mystic sitar vibes. You've got this intensity there. It's up and down. It's probably a great live track for everybody to hang on to. That tension and release and then tension back on again. I don't know whether I like it as the end of the album. I don't know, because it's like getting somewhere and then being hit over the head with a mallet. It's like a kind of blunt third, almost. You know You sort of live through part of it and then you kind of get a little bit overwhelmed. But yeah, i don't dislike that, i've just got to get my head around it. Really, i'll say this build up to the end of the albums. If Let's Stay Engaged has that little bit of a rise up there, i think that would do it for me. But no, it's good, it's good. I need to listen to it more definitely. 1:36:55 - Speaker 1Yeah, you should always listen to it more, but it still might be where you land, you know, and that's cool. 1:37:02 - Speaker 6Yeah, but I'll say this is an album that I will be buying. 1:37:04 - Speaker 1Yeah, I will be getting hold of this for repeat listens. 1:37:09 - Speaker 7Excellent. It was a good one for Dan to come in on. I think you know Yeah. For sure sounds good. Lucky you Yeah yeah, thank God. 1:37:22 - Speaker 1What did you think of putting it off Pete? 1:37:25 - Speaker 2I definitely feel Dan's vibes on i

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Bob is joined by guest Peter St. Onge to discuss how SVB's CEO, as well as Bernie Madoff, had key positions advising the Fed and SEC. Then they discuss how we should think about central banks losing money. How the SEC was Charmed by Madoff: Mises.org/HAP389a Bob's Understanding Money Mechanics: Mises.org/HAP389b

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