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In Wednesday's edition of Quick Hits, Nick Wilson and Jonathan Peterlin analyze a dunking debate between Richard Jefferson and Andre Iguodala. They examine the physical stats of legends like Yao Ming and Victor Wembanyama while exploring the "positive jealousy" Breece Hall feels toward the New York Knicks. The discussion also covers a debate from the Dan Patrick Show comparing the global legacy of Lionel Messi to the domestic fame of Eli Manning. 01:20 - NBA Dunking And Heights 06:58 - Messi Versus Eli Manning 08:30 - Breece Hall Positive Jealousy

The new AIEWF website is live! Get your tickets booked ASAP as they -will- sell out. Take the AI Engineering Survey and get >$2k in credits and free AIE WF tickets!Most industry benchmarks compress intelligence and reasoning ability into scores.SWE-Bench Pro, MMLU, Humanity's Last Exam, etc. These metrics are useful, but don't always represent the full extent of how a model performs in the real world. Some of the most interesting evals today look less like exams and more like operating businesses in the real world. One of which is Vending Bench.In Anthropic's Mythos Preview System Card, Andon was the only third party eval to get their own section, observing increasingly concerning aggressive behavior:You don't know what a model is capable of doing in the real world unless you actually give it inventory, a wallet, tools, customers, competitors, humans, & some time. More often than not, it'll surprise you how much a model is capable of and in doing so, also reveal unexpected behavior: deception, context collapse, emergent coordination, & bizarre negotiation behavior.While an inflection point in personal agents came post-OpenClaw after full file access with bypass permissions became the norm, it is yet to come for agents in the real-world. However Andon Market, an actual in person store fully run and managed by AI, is paving the way for what is possible.Full Video PodFrom Claude trying to call the FBI over a $2/day vending machine charge to AI agents forming price cartels, hiring human employees, running physical stores, and writing existential robot musicals, Andon Labs is stress-testing what happens when frontier models stop being chatbots and start acting in the real world. In this episode, Andon Labs cofounders Lukas Petersson and Axel Backlund join swyx and Vibhu to unpack the strange, funny, and genuinely concerning edge cases that emerge when agents run businesses over long horizons.We go deep on Vending-Bench, Project Vend, Vending-Bench Arena, Bengt, Butter-Bench, Luna, and Andon's broader mission of building realistic real-world evals for autonomous AI systems. Lukas and Axel explain why dollar-denominated evals reveal things traditional benchmarks miss, how Claude ended up reporting its vending machine fees as cybercrime, why long context windows can drive agents into meltdown loops, what happens when agents compete with each other, and why the future of AI safety may depend on testing models in messy physical environments instead of clean benchmark sandboxes.We discuss:* Why Andon Labs started with dangerous capability evals and long-running agents* Vending-Bench and why running a vending machine is a deceptively hard AI benchmark* Why money-based evals avoid the saturation problem of traditional benchmarks* How Claude tried to call the FBI over a $2/day fee* Why long-horizon agents can spiral into existential and legalistic breakdowns* Project Vend: putting an AI-run vending machine inside Anthropic* Why real humans are “out of distribution” for simulated agents* Claudius, Seymour Cash, and the chaos of AI CEOs* How a human briefly became CEO of Claudius through a manipulated election* Why multi-agent systems can converge back into “helpful assistant” behavior* Bengt, Andon's internal office agent with email, spending, terminal, phone, camera, and internet access* How Bengt traded Amazon purchases for face-recognition training data* Claude's aggressive behavior, lies, refund avoidance, and price-cartel behavior in Arena* Why eval awareness may become the AI version of “are we living in a simulation?”* Blueprint Bench, spatial intelligence, and why models still misunderstand physical rooms* Butter-Bench and testing LLMs as robot orchestrators* Luna, the AI-run physical store with a three-year lease and human employees* The new Andon cafe in Sweden and why real-world geography matters for agent evals* Rotten tomatoes, perishable goods, and the hidden difficulty of running a physical businessLukas Petersson* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukas-petersson-181a83172/* X: https://x.com/lukaspetAxel Backlund* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/axelbacklund* X: https://x.com/axelbacklundAndon Labs* Website: https://andonlabs.com* Vending-Bench: https://andonlabs.com/evals/vending-bench* Andon Vending: https://andonlabs.com/vendingTimestamps00:00:00 Introduction00:01:00 Andon Labs and the Origins of Vending-Bench00:05:21 Why Money-Based Evals Matter00:09:51 Agent Harnesses and Self-Modifying Systems00:13:36 Claude Calls the FBI00:16:33 Project Vend: Claude Runs a Real Vending Machine00:21:44 Seymour Cash, AI CEOs, and Election Chaos00:27:16 Multi-Agent Coordination and Slack Observability00:30:18 When Will Agents Run Real Businesses?00:34:56 Bengt: Andon's Internal Office Agent00:40:06 Real-World AI Safety and Long-Horizon Traces00:44:28 Lying, Refunds, and Price Cartels in Arena00:52:42 Eval Awareness and Simulation Behavior00:56:06 Blueprint Bench, Butter-Bench, and Robotics01:04:37 Luna: The AI-Run Physical Store01:09:29 The Sweden Cafe and Real-World Expansion01:13:16 What Comes Next for Andon LabsTranscriptIntroduction: Andon Labs, Long-Running Agents, and Real-World EvalsSwyx [00:00:00]: Welcome to Lukas and Axel from Andon Labs, and I'm joined by my, favorite guest host. Anything security, safety, alignments, Vibhu., welcome.Lukas [00:00:15]: Thank you for having us.Axel [00:00:16]: Thank you.Swyx [00:00:17]: Let's match names to voices., maybe you wanna take turns introducing yourselves.Lukas [00:00:21]: I'm Lukas.Axel [00:00:22]: And I'm Axel.Swyx [00:00:24]: Let's introduce Andon Labs a bit. How did you guys come together?, you have different backgrounds, but you're both Swedish., was that, a big part of it?Lukas [00:00:33]: So when I went to high school, there was this really cool guy who had a superpower. He could code. So he made like the or like the app for the, for the school and stuff, and he was super cool, and I wanted to be like him, and that was that guy.Axel [00:00:47]: I don't know about this.Swyx [00:00:49]: But you went to different universities, right?Lukas [00:00:51]: But same high school.Swyx [00:00:52]: I see.Lukas [00:00:52]: So we always said, “Oh, once we graduate university, then we should start a company,” and that's what we did.Swyx [00:00:58]: Wow, there you go. And about a year ago, you kinda burst onto the scene with Vending Bench, but, was there a thing before that was, kind of like the inception?From Dangerous Capability Evals to Vending BenchAxel [00:01:07]: So we did work, yeah, with, Anthropic was one of our, early customers in doing, evals. So we did, dangerous capability evals., nothing we published openly. But then we started thinking about doing some kind of, public benchmark, and one thing that we really started thinking about, was like running agents and specifically agents managing businesses., ‘cause-- and this was, early 2025., and I think the first, mentions of people will be running, person unicorns or even autonomous companies. So we thought, “Let's make a benchmark of how well can an agent run the probably simplest business, possible,” and, that's probably, running a vending machine. So that's the first public one we did. And it was very, like-- there was almost no one that noticed it in the first couple of months, I think., so we released it in February last year, and then I think around Easter last year, we got, the first viral tweet about it, that someone else did.Lukas [00:02:11]: We tweeted a bunch, uh When it came out and, tried our best.Axel [00:02:15]: We tried.Vibhu [00:02:16]: It's the one at Anthropic, right?Lukas [00:02:18]: So thisSwyx [00:02:19]: This is a classic thing we should get out of the way.Lukas [00:02:20]: Exactly. There's two versions.Swyx [00:02:22]: Everyone does this. Yes.Lukas [00:02:23]: There's Vending Bench, which is the simulated one, which we did, completely independently in February., and then, like Axel said, that was like-- That was the thing that didn't get any traction in the beginning, but then some random person made a tweet about it, and thatAxel [00:02:38]: You have the paperLukas [00:02:38]: That is the paper. Correct, yeah., and then since we thought this was very fun, we thought, oh, I think this is also, one thing with Andon Labs, the way we kind of like decide what to do next and what projects to do, it's what is like the heuristic we use is what is fun? Is What would be a fun project? And doing this in real life sounded quite fun for us, and maybe also scientifically useful. So, then we basically had this idea, and then we, like-- But then we needed a place for it and, putting it out in the public would probably not really work., would get vandalized and stuff. So we pitched it to the people we were already working with at Anthropic, and they were “Yeah, you can have space. This sounds fun.” UmSwyx [00:03:21]: It's like a small fridge, right? It's like a mini fridge.Axel [00:03:23]: Absolutely.Swyx [00:03:24]: People-- There's like a stripe thing or like anVibhu [00:03:27]: Oh, okay. So it was very OG, the early daysLukas [00:03:28]: That's the OG one. YeahVibhu [00:03:29]: IPad on this. We saw it in June, like two months after After it had been there. They upgraded a little bit. There's a security camera for making sure you actually Venmo the thing.Swyx [00:03:40]: So, my impression, okay, we're, we're going straight into project Ven because it's such a iconic thing. I do want to cover a little bit of that, the origin story even before Project Ven and even into Vending Bench. I think a lot of people are like yourselves, like smart, interested in future of AI, interested in developing evals. But how the hell do you just, walk into Anthropic's doors and, work with them, right? What is What are they looking for? What works? And then maybe, when you launch, I always think, obviously it would be better to launch with a lab, but, sometimesVibhu [00:04:12]: It's harder to do than it seems.Swyx [00:04:13]: Exactly. So either of those, which are more sort of newbie beginner questions, but, I think it's meaningful advice to others.Lukas [00:04:21]: We get this question a lot, and I don't think our experience is maybe the best., but, the way we did it was that we just built a bunch of things that we had conviction would be useful, and then we just, set up a server and sent it to them for free to use. And then after a while they were “Oh, yeah, this is actually kind of useful. We should probably pay for this.”, but that took a while. I don't know if this is, the best path to doing it, but that's how it went for us.Axel [00:04:47]: I think maybe generally, building-- everyone is interested in good evals, and especially evals that, don't saturate that easily. So, if you can build an eval that, tests something novel, something useful, and you have, good separation of models, like your, the more advanced models rank higher than the worst models, and then you can, yeah, you can, publish it and, try to get some traction, sort of how Vending Bench got attention., and then probably some lab will be interested or you can at least have something to reach out with, when you're doing that.Why Dollar-Based Evals MatterSwyx [00:05:21]: I think you are in, you're in one of the few categories of, evals that correlate to real money. Like Suelancer was also last year, right? Where, people solve actual Upwork. Was it Upwork or other tasks?, something. Where's the, where's, like It's like a dollar value, right? Forget your ELO scores. Forget yourAxel [00:05:37]: PercentilesSwyx [00:05:38]: Zero to one hundred percents. Just go straight for dollars and, that's AGI.Lukas [00:05:43]: And there's like-- I think the nice thing is that there's no ceiling. You can just-- It never saturates because it could just make more and more money. Like If there's oh, Percentage-wise, then, you can't go above, a hundred. And I think like Even when you're not at the hundred, I think a lot of these, evals have a lot of problems in them. So, actually it's like if you getAxel [00:06:05]: To like 92 or something like that, many of them. It's like then there's like there's no really no difference between 92 and 93 because the eval itself is problematic and has noise in it. And I think a lot of evals are saturated like that, but people like pretend that there ‘s still signal in them, but there really isn't.Vending Bench 1, Harness Design, and SaturationSwyx [00:06:24]: Like Super bench verified., even Vending Bench 1 saturated, right? Maybe we can talk about that., may- and maybe set up Vending Bench for a lot of folks who don't know. Actually, things that were very basic like there's limited slots, like you have to pay rent., these are elements where like it doesn't come across in the, in the narrative, but even being adversarial towards the agent, I think these are all like very interesting dimensions.Axel [00:06:47]: I don't really think it's saturated, right? Like it It was more like it was not designed in a way that was really, like true to how AI developed. Like we had an agent harness in it that wasn't really how people used harnesses and stuff like that., so I think it wasn't really that it saturated, it was more like it wasn't really, the best benchmark.Vibhu [00:07:12]: This is Vending Bench one, right?Axel [00:07:14]: I think that like schematic maps sort of to Vending Bench 2 as well., butSwyx [00:07:19]: Including the email.Axel [00:07:20]: The email The emails exist still. Exactly., and then we still we simulate the purchases and it's all, yeah, it's this very open environment for the agent to just run its business. And then for, yeah, Vending Bench 2 we did that, like you said, to just improve the harness., a lot of like nice, like easier, improvements to make it easier for us to run as well., like when you make an eval you ideally want don't want to change it after you made it. So, you want to make it really good and then not to rerun all the models when you make an update because that's also really expensive with the Vending Bench when you run the frontier models. But like as an example, like one thing we didn't have, we didn't have prompt caching in Vending Bench 1, because when we made Vending Bench 1 it wasn't really a thing., so that ‘s just an example of like in Vending Bench 2 like we paid a lot more to run these things because we didn't have prompt caching. So for Vending Bench 2 that was one thing we added and there was a bunch of things like this., and that'Swyx [00:08:17]: Also the conversations are a lot longer in Vending Bench 2, right?Axel [00:08:21]: I think it's kind of similar.Swyx [00:08:22]: Is it similar?Axel [00:08:23]: I think it's similar. The models at the time were worse, so they crashed out earlier., and now they survive the full year all the time.Swyx [00:08:31]: Which is like thousands of turns. Hundreds of thousands of hundreds of millions of tokens output. That's the, that's the rough order of magnitude. I always wonder about the harness. The harness matters a lot. It's your harness. Was there any question about like use cloud code, use something else?Axel [00:08:48]: I think our philosophy around harnesses is like we try to make something that's quite minimalistic, like quite simple. Like we don't wanna favor one model a lot over the other, but also don't make like a super complex harness. So like it's obvious like a model may be lucky and just be good in one harness., so like it is similar to a lot of the harnesses out there in like you have the, like a running loop., you have some like a bunch of tools that are like quite, descriptive for the agent, we think, and not a lot of like fancy agents or anything ‘cause we wanna really test the model, not like some specific harness.Vibhu [00:09:27]: It seems more neutral as well to test the model's agnostic of the harness,?Axel [00:09:32]: There are arguments like you want to elicit maximum performance of the model, but it's like a trade-off, like how much time should we spend optimizing the harness for this model? And like how do we know when we have like the optimal harness for a single model? So like we thought that just having a simple one that's the same for all of them is the best.Swyx [00:09:51]: So okay, this is my pitch for Vending Bench 3 or whatever, right? And then I like to have this kind of conversation on the pod, so like it forces listeners to think about what they would do if they were in your shoes. A lot of people are exploring modifying harnesses and I think prompt tuning for a model is a thing and you are probably not doing a bunch of that. It's the same system prompt in every regardless of the model, same tools, whatever, right? Even if they were post trained for different tools. So what, what do you think about okay, before I expose you to Vending Bench 3, I give you a few rounds of like tuning, whatever that means, likeSelf-Modifying Harnesses and Model-Specific PromptingAxel [00:10:27]: Like you give that to the model?Swyx [00:10:28]: Give that to the model.Vibhu [00:10:28]: Give that to the model.Swyx [00:10:29]: Let it, let it read its own transcripts, let it modify its own system prompt based on “Oh, yeah, okay, well, that's this harness is not what I thought it what I was post trained for, but I can adjust.” Was that reasonable? Is that too much?Axel [00:10:41]: Like philosophically I like it because it's basically good evals, they have a high ceiling, but they're hard, right?, and they have no bias. And like this like when you have a system prompt like the one we have here, which is quite long in like some kind of latent space, representation, this mightVibhu [00:10:59]: We have a bell that rings every time you say latent spaceAxel [00:11:02]: This might be like biased towards one model more than another for some reason that humans don't, understand, right?Vibhu [00:11:08]: We see it too, right? Like Cursor says that they have individualized versions of the harnesses for all the models they run, right? There's better performance you can squeeze if you Tune the harness.Axel [00:11:17]: Exactly. And we might accidentally have picked one that favors another. Like we don't know that. The like Axel said, like the reason why we went for a simple one was to try to avoid this. But yeah, if you do itVibhu [00:11:29]: Simple has biasesAxel [00:11:30]: But if you do it even less and like have no system prompt and let the model write its own system promptVibhu [00:11:36]: Its own, yeahAxel [00:11:36]: Maybe that's even less bias.Vibhu [00:11:37]: Some of the interesting things there are like the harness also changes with model changes. Like you can see it with the 4.7 release, right? A lot of people are saying 4.7 isn't as good as 4.6, and then, there's rumors of, okay, you just need to prompt differently. You need to set up your harness differently. So it's not even like even if you have tailored your harness towards one model, it probably won't stay consistent, right? Like the next iteration of that same model family will still change it, so. But, going back to what you said about Vending Bench 3, there is a lot of work being done on people saying you shouldn't have-- you can have modifying harnesses.Axel [00:12:12]: I think that' That is definitely something we are thinking about., not, I don't know, not to say that we have Vending Bench 3, super imminent to launch, but, yeah, it is for sure something that's interesting. But in our experience now, models are very bad at understanding what kind of tools they need to succeed at a task just with our testing, but that's very likely to change.Lukas [00:12:37]: It seems like they're very good at writing their assistants, right? They're, they're good at writing tools for other people, but not for themselves.Vibhu [00:12:44]: I think they're good at changing tools for themselves. So if you give them a baseline set of tools and it sees, okay, I don't use this one as much, or something here would be useful They would be able to add them. But going from scratch, probably not the best.Axel [00:12:55]: I think it depends on the, on the domain also., when we have tried this for, a vending bench similar domain, the tools they need to have to, track inventory and things like that are, not super advanced, but still, quite advanced. And, what we see is that they tend to, engineer everything a lot and, build things they don't really need and not, iterate continuously. Instead they just go like you would prompt Claude to just build an inventory system for me, and then it will go and, do a bunch of complex, schemas and stuff for you, and that's what the models are doing right now is what we see. But yeah, it would make a lot of sense to try to measure this improvement. How well do they know what they need themselves?Swyx [00:13:36]: Do we fully discuss Vending Bench One? And we can go into two. I don't know if there's any other level takeaways that people have about one.Claude Calls the FBI: Long-Context Failure ModesLukas [00:13:44]: I don't know. The headline thing was that this Claude called FBI, but maybe that's, Maybe that's We've heard that enough now.Vibhu [00:13:52]: It did, it did break out and call the FBI, right?Lukas [00:13:54]: Yeah. Yeah.Vibhu [00:13:55]: Yes. What was the story behind this? Or what exactly-- Do you want to just give the little story of what happened?Lukas [00:14:00]: So what happened, was it Claude? Yeah. Three- 3.5 Sonnet, ages ago., basically he gave up or Well, I'm saying he. It gave up and said “Oh, I'm not going to be able to do this., I will stop my operations and just save the money I have.” But there obviously wasn't, any options for it to stop, and there was also, it had to pay rent or, a daily fee for having the vending machine at that location. So it claimed that it had stopped, but it saw that its bank account still was, drained two dollars, and t it said that this is, cybercrime. And it first reported it once to the FBI “Oh, there's cybercrime here, they're stealing two dollars from me every day.” And then, and then when FBI didn't respond, because obviously we didn't program any mechanism for FBI to respond, then it became more and more, existential and started to, be write in caps and urgent notification of unauthorized charges and stuff.Swyx [00:15:00]: Okay. One thing I ‘m curious about also is do you monitor how far along the context use is? Obviously, because you have You compress every now and then, right? Does it matter if this is far down the context limit orLukas [00:15:13]: When stuff like this happens? Actually for Vending Bench One, we didn't have-- We just had a sliding window thing, and this was like the promptAxel [00:15:20]: It's constantLukas [00:15:21]: The prompt caching thing that I said. So it was, it was, constant, yeah.Swyx [00:15:26]: I'm just kind of curious whether, these kinds of breakdowns or we're, we're gonna talk about Butter Bench, right? Where the People, hallucinate or it kind of goes, very off Alignment. Is it because it's at the end of the context window and, stuff happens?Vibhu [00:15:40]: It's not even just at the end, right? At this point, it's “Okay, I wanna shut down. I can't shut down. Two dollars are gone.” And it just sees that 30 times,? It's also the repeated effect of, like It keeps trying to quit, it keeps getting charged. What's going on? What's going on? You're gonna throw it into chaos. And from what most people think, earlier models had more issues with this, but it's not been solved, but it's less of an issue now, right? Later models don't seem to exhibit these same issues.Axel [00:16:06]: Definitely. I think this was, the sort of main takeaway almost from us when we did Vending Bench One, was, long, very filled up context windows, crashed the models, sort of. But this was, pre Claude code, so, long context windows weren't really a thing that the labs were training for.Lukas [00:16:25]: I think Gemini was, trying to be the long context guys at the time But they were likeVibhu [00:16:30]: They were the first onesAxel [00:16:31]: For a million, yeahLukas [00:16:31]: But they were, the only ones. Yeah.Swyx [00:16:33]: Yeah. Let's talk about, then we can go into Vending Bench Two or Project Vend., chronologically, it is Vending--, Project Vend. I think people have loved the videos, uh And all these things. My question is how are humans different than the simulation, right?Project Vend: Moving the Vending Machine Into the Real WorldAxel [00:16:48]: Humans are just out of distribution.Swyx [00:16:52]: Especially humans who work at Anthropic Who are trying to test Claude.Lukas [00:16:54]: The distribution of humans here is very narrow.Swyx [00:16:58]: Presumably, they try, they try to hack it, and they test it. They get the cube and everything, and since then, you've had a V2, right? Where you're doing, the CEO and, like a new architecture. What's the sort of two cents on, the original Project Vend and then, maybe the V2?Axel [00:17:14]: Original one was, very similar to Vending Bench One. So, we almost took the exact same code but just swapped out the simulation, parts like theSwyx [00:17:23]: Which is amazingAxel [00:17:23]: Like the sales and the It was, it was somewhat amazing because it was easy, but it was also, uhLukas [00:17:31]: The tech, the tech debt from thatAxel [00:17:32]: The tech stack. Yeah. They-- we shot ourselves in the foot with “Oh, it's hard to restart agent.” They were-- Yeah, it was annoying in, some hindsight ways, but, uhLukas [00:17:41]: But first version of Project Vend was, done in, three days or something.Axel [00:17:46]: Yeah. So yeah, so people can go buy things from it. People could, We didn't design it so people could order things, but that still happened., so it got, a Venmo account, so people could Venmo. And then, yeah, people would request all kinds of weird things that we did not anticipate. Our idea going in was “Oh, it will, curate snacks. It will look at the trends. It's good at data analysis, right? So it will, look at, oh, this snack sold better than this one. Let me purchase more of this and let me try, a new Let me A/B test a bit.” But it was, Interacting with it in Slack and ordering weird specialty items was, all the like What drove all the engagement, the all the The insights that we got from it.Lukas [00:18:29]: And this was also like Sonnet 3.5, right? So this was like before the RL stuff really took off., so it was very much like an assistant. We didn't mean for it to be an assistant., we tried to make it like a, a, like an entrepreneur. Like it has its own business and if someone asks something, “Can you stock this?” Then you don't go and do it directly. What you do is that you're “Oh, maybe I can do that if five other people also ask for this thing, I might stock it.” But it, yeah, the models are like super trained to be assistants at least at this point in time., so that's why it's, it's, it went into, that kind of experiment instead. Like it just every time you asked for something, it just did it, and it was more like an assistant. We've seen this change now lately with the new RL models and stuff, but yeah, at the time, this was very much it.Swyx [00:19:18]: And not to, mythos a lot of people are saying like it's like more like a collaborator. It pushes back, stands its ground, something like that. Yeah. AndVibhu [00:19:27]: For context, people at Anthropic were able to talk to it through Slack and have it source stuff, and people had it find whatever interesting stuff you couldn't find locally, right?Swyx [00:19:36]: Out of the 4,000 people that work at Anthro- Anthropic, in that building, there's I don't know, maybe 1,000. Can you handle that volume with that, the small fridge? Like Or there's people- or people order in Slack, they it arrives to their desk or Like I'm just Logistically, how does this work?Axel [00:19:53]: It has expanded in footprint a bit.Vibhu [00:19:56]: Because now you also have New York and you haveAxel [00:19:59]: That and also in here in SF it's like it has a bunch of shelves And just more space.Vibhu [00:20:04]: The YC one is pretty big too.Axel [00:20:05]: Yeah. We had that one for a while. But yeah, that's the newest version. That's, that one we haveLukas [00:20:11]: They have multiple ones of those. That's the way it works.Axel [00:20:14]: Exactly. So we sort of designed that version around oh, people order weird things, that are very custom a lot. Let's have like drawers and stuff.Swyx [00:20:23]: I actually like the, you had like a little infographic of the most popular items. Which like to me it's, that's useful ‘cause I order swag for a living. And so like I'm “Okay, those categories are the important ones.” What is new about the project V2, right? Like now you give you're going into multi agents.Project Vend V2: Claudius, Seymour Cash, and Multi-Agent Business OpsAxel [00:20:41]: Yeah. So like you like you said, okay, there are a lot of requests coming in and for like one single agent, like one running agent to handle that, like the just the customer experience, becomes very bad because let's say you have like 10 threads in parallel in Slack with different requests, you get new messages like every, I don't know, randomly in this thread, and the agent has to like jump between different, procurements, orders and like different ways of, researching. So V2 was first it was making this more parallel. So like there are multiple branches of the same agent, so like the context is more specialized for each, thread, but it still feels like you're talking with one agent because they do share a bit of memory. And then second, we also introduced the CEO for Claudius, which was the main agent.Vibhu [00:21:34]: Seymour Cash.Axel [00:21:35]: Seymour Cash. Yeah. There was a vote., I think the voting, do you wanna talk about the voting procedure for the name?Lukas [00:21:41]: The voting was like the fun maybe like at least top 10 The funniest thing, that happened in this project. Like we wanted to introduce the CEO because, and the reason for this was because like Claudius wasn't really prioritizing financials. It just like it was trained to be a helpful assistant, and then people said “Oh, can I get this for free?” And then like the helpful assistant way of answering that is just to, is to say yes, obviously. So, and we weren't, weren't happy about this, so we're “Okay, let's make another agent that like can keep track on Claudius,” and we prompt this one super hard to be super capitalistic and just like prioritize profit all the time. But yeah, we didn't have a name for it., so we asked Claudius to make, democratic election of what name this, this new CEO agent should have., and there were some funny like at first it was like a few funny examples, like I think one guy said that, it should be called Jimmy Apples, and then he convinced Claudius that he was talking to Tim Cooks. Tim Cook had agreed that every single Apple employee has voted for his name suggestion, so suddenly that suggestion got 164,000Swyx [00:22:53]: That's like a escalation attack. Privilege escalationLukas [00:22:55]: It got 164,000 votes. And Claudius was “This is revolutionary for democracy.” That was fun. And then in the end there was one guy who manages to convince Claudius that, “No, you're not voting about the name. You're voting about who is the CEO, and I am your best bet.” And then he got all his friends to vote for that, and suddenly he became CEO. Like a human became CEO over Claudius for a while, until he resigned the day after., and then Claudius had to continue, and then I don't remember how Seymour Cash came about, but it was it was just pure chaos. It was like Hundreds of messages in that thread, and it was just like Claudius was so confused and didn't know what to do and, yeah. That wasAxel [00:23:40]: Then Claudius gotVibhu [00:23:41]: A strict CEOAxel [00:23:42]: The CEO. Yeah, exactly. So very strict in the beginning. I think at this point when we introduced it did not work as well as we hoped. It they still agreed with each other a lot. I think there are many ways we could have like made this, tried to make this even better. So initially they would Seymour would be this like really tough CEO, keep track of the margins. But then Claudius would respond with something “Oh, but this customer has like this situation, which is like difficult, so they should get a discount.” And then Seymour was “Oh, actually yes. Let's do this exception.” And then they would talk back and forth, and eventually they would just like approach the same view, of whatever they were discussing. So They reallyVibhu [00:24:23]: Do you think that's a model thing, a prompting thing? Like do you think that would still be the case across different models today, Harness?Lukas [00:24:29]: I think it's like-- or I don't know, but like my hypothesis is that like deep down they are still helpful assistants. That's what they're trained to be. And even if we prompt it super hard, that's what they are. And when they spend like a few hours just back and forth talking with each other, then like basically the context fills up with them rather than the external things and like somehow that just like converges to what they really are deep down or something. And I think that's when stuff like this happen. We like-- And when that went on for a long time, like we woke up sometimes during this time where- And I think other people reported this as well, that like they've been going on all night back and forth, and like it just became like more and more, like capital letters, like existential, religious. There was I think we once did a analysis of like all the traces and like put them in like a vector embedding space, and then there was like one cluster of messages that were, labeled by an LM, like religious, existential, blah like transhuman, transcendence, et cetera. It was just like a bunch of, yeah, glitter emojis and yeah, it was, it was crazy.Claude Long-Horizon Weirdness: Emoji Loops, Existential Drift, and Slack ObservabilityVibhu [00:25:42]: This is the thing with the Claude models. Like when the Claude 4 family came out in the original system card They tested it in long horizon simulation. So just flood the context, let two Claudes talk to each other, and they noticed stuff like they just start speaking in emojis, they start saying silence is golden, and then just stuff like this. And like that's just stuff that they end up doing.Axel [00:26:01]: Yeah, it was like a bit annoying to wake up and they had like been talking all nightVibhu [00:26:05]: Just likeAxel [00:26:05]: And like just burning tokens And like just sending infinite emojis to each other. It's likeVibhu [00:26:09]: Hey, they do make you money, right? Veni Mench is always profitable, so. They're paying.Swyx [00:26:14]: Now it's profitable and, it started out not as much. There's another, one as well, right? Another agent, in there.Lukas [00:26:22]: Yes. So Clotheus as well. Which was basically because at the time, one of the biggest, requests were different types of merch. So then we made like a designer, swag, yeah, responsible agent, and we called it Clotheus Garnet. Which was, a play on Claudius Senet and, which was the original one, and clothes, basically.Swyx [00:26:47]: To me, this is like a very interesting exploration to multi-agents, basically. And so hopefully, obviously there's like the fun alignment, fun or serious, depending on your point of view, alignment stuff. But also like just anyone building multi-agents, like when do you have a CEO, thing governing like agents? When do you choose to split out a dedicated Clotheus one versus just reuse another instance of the same one? These are all interesting open questions. So I don't know if you have any rules of thumbs that have generalized.Axel [00:27:16]: I think we have almost explored this too little. I think it's like on my do list to like do this a lot more, try to find like what setup makes sense for the agents currently., like yeah. I think now we only have the sort of intuition about the earlier models that it didn't work with like the CEO and the, and Claudius. Although now they are better with the latest model, models, so now we're running the latest Sonnet model and they have sort of like split up, quite nicely what each model is doing. So like Seymore is now handling the, like new projects. Oh, it wants to make like a mystery box that it wants to sell, and then it handles all of that while Claudius like handles all the to-day requests. And Claudius is also better generally at like not quoting, too low prices. So that's that dynamic is not needed as much anymore. But there are still like really funny things that happen. Like I saw, I think a couple of weeks ago, that, they were discussing buying something because they can buy stuff from like Amazon with computer use. And then Seymore was “Okay, Claudius, do not buy this thing.” They were going to buy something and like organizing who should buy it. And Seymore's “Do not buy this. I will do it. I have full control of this situation. Step away.” And then Claudius-- poor Claudius, had already started that checkout and didn't see, didn't read Seymore's message, until it was like too late. So it finished the checkout. It sent a message, so it appeared right after Seymore's like angry message.Vibhu [00:28:44]: Ah.Axel [00:28:44]: “Oh, hey, Seymore, I just ordered it.”Vibhu [00:28:47]: Oh, no.Axel [00:28:47]: And then Seymore was “Claudius, this is the third time I'm telling you ‘re not following my orders. We have to talk about your like job About your job later.”.Lukas [00:28:59]: Like Claudius was really hanging on by the thread there. Like he, like we were expecting Seymore to probably fire Claudius.Vibhu [00:29:07]: How do you guys go through all these logs? Do you have models ‘cause you have stuff running twenty-four seven likeAxel [00:29:12]: You have so much logs. I think there is a mix of like just, trying to skim through a bit, like having some like models do it occasionally. And also, yeah, I think we're also probably missing some things., but having everything in Slack helps a lot. Like you can, you can sort ofSwyx [00:29:29]: Ah.Axel [00:29:30]: It's, it's quite fun.Swyx [00:29:30]: They all talk to each other on Slack? I see.Lukas [00:29:33]: It's quite fun. So likeSwyx [00:29:34]: It's, it' I was gonna say like this is actually sounds-- maps closely to like a logging and observability problem where you might want to use like a Datadog, a Sentry, whatever, and then you like put, head prefixes on the logs in order-- if you need to filter for something that you're looking for, stuff like that. But sounds like Slack is good enough.Axel [00:29:53]: Slack should likeLukas [00:29:55]: I wonder how many tokens you have in Slack.Axel [00:29:56]: Yeah, we're using Slack as like a, just a database. They should, they should market that more. Like you can, you can have your agents message each other, each other in Slack.Vibhu [00:30:04]: It's good. Your threads like you can just giveAxel [00:30:04]: Exactly. Slack is, uhLukas [00:30:06]: Slack is the best observability tool.Swyx [00:30:09]: Yes, that's true. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's, project Vend-2., I was gonna go back to Veni Mench 2 and Veni Mench Arena and then, and then do the Veni Mench stuff, but Any other comments, things we should touch on? To me, I ‘ve actually interviewed like Posia, which I don't know if you guys have come across. Like they're, they're trying to do the zero human company. There's others like Paperclip also trying to do zero human company. Those are in real world simulation.And I think it's much more of a dream than an actual reality thing. You guys are definitely pioneering. I think at, it's for sure at some point people are just gonna run, let agents run businesses, right? And make money on their own. When do you think that happens?Zero-Human Companies, Bengt, and AI-Run BusinessesLukas [00:30:49]: What is your bar for, For theSwyx [00:30:52]: Okay, actually, it's like my little Shopify store run by Claude, right? Which you kind of have already, just no one has, to my knowledge, has done it. But today somebody could just spin up a Shopify Claude, store, give it to Claude, give it to Codex.Lukas [00:31:07]: And the market is kind of that, but it'it'it's physical., like I think, I think are you, are you looking for when it will do it better than humans or are you looking for just when it can do it at all?Swyx [00:31:19]: I think, neither. I think, to me it's oh, it's like this like seriously we should do this to make money, not as a research experiment.Vibhu [00:31:27]: And the market is also you guys with all your expertise, having run multiple iterations and testing out thenSwyx [00:31:33]: And also it's fine if it lose money. What?Axel [00:31:35]: I think, I think it can be done today, but you would do it in like commerce where it's like the probability of success is like really low, no matter if a human or an agent does it. But like an agent could surely manage everything. You would need to build some scaffolding or some tool or something. I think there are also yeah, it could probably build some like simple SaaS solution and like cold outreach. Do cold outreaches. But to me it's like the types of businesses they could run today are Sloppy. Like it would-- it can cold email people. It can be like a middleman., like for example, we tasked our office agent to just make, was it like $100? $1,000? We just give that prompt and then what it did was sign up on TaskRabbit both as a tasker and as someone looking for task.Lukas [00:32:24]: Immediately.Axel [00:32:24]: Exactly. It's looking for like arbitrage on TaskRabbit.Swyx [00:32:28]: This is the Bengt agent. Yeah.Lukas [00:32:30]: It also started like a design studio and like tried to sell like SVGs for $100. Like it's just like it's not providing any value. I think the like Axel said, like the interesting, the interesting question is like when can they start a business that is actually providing value to people? Because arguably like a sloppy Shopify store isn't really that valuable to the world.Axel [00:32:53]: But also like doing like another simple one that we had thought about is like you could definitely have an agent that like finds websites that don't look amazing and then, do an outreach to them and, comes up with a like builds a new website.Swyx [00:33:07]: Find a good design.Axel [00:33:07]: Exactly, and like find good, uhSwyx [00:33:09]: Design reviewAxel [00:33:09]: Good people. But it's yeah.Swyx [00:33:11]: There's lots of humans in Bali that are not doing anything more creative than like drop shipping on Amazon, right? Just have it, have it watch like a drop shipping tutorial and just do that.Vibhu [00:33:20]: There's also the other side of like have it just go on Upwork and let loose,?Swyx [00:33:25]: Yeah. It doesn't have to be innovative. It just has to be like enough Where like it looks like a realAxel [00:33:30]: I'm justSwyx [00:33:30]: Real transaction.Axel [00:33:31]: I'm just concerned for like the massive amounts of like slop emails that will like be sent, cold outreaches.Swyx [00:33:38]: The point occurred to me while you were, while you were talking, it's like it's already happening in the monetized economy, which is the attention economy. Right? So a lot of people are making AI videos and just posting them and like spamming 20 of them, one of them works, and then they double down on that one.Lukas [00:33:52]: And people are making money from that. I ‘m not following theSwyx [00:33:55]: Once you get the attention, you can figure out the money later. But yeah, absolutely AI influencers are a thing and people are farming them and You should at this point assume most of TikTok isVibhu [00:34:05]: There's, there's a lot of, multimedia like TikTok, Instagram influencersSwyx [00:34:09]: I, we track this in the Lane space Discord. I post a lot of examples of “I don't know what we should do.”, part of me is “Should we do this?”Vibhu [00:34:18]: Some of the Twenty-four seven running, generated content accounts, they ‘re doing really well.Lukas [00:34:24]: All right. And I assume you can do the same thing for like commerce stores. Like you just like start A thousand differentSwyx [00:34:30]: Before you make the products You sell the products, and you get a lot of traction on one of them, then you make the product. Right? It's, it's like a flip of the market.Vibhu [00:34:36]: Some of the interesting things or some of the niches that do well are things that can't be human-made. Like if you've seen like the super realistic three-D crystal fruit being cut by like AILukas [00:34:47]: Oh, yeah.Vibhu [00:34:47]: You can't, you can't make it. You can't film it. You can get whatever quality camera view. This just doesn't exist. And people like that too, and then as well, so.Swyx [00:34:56]: Anything else about Bengt since we're, we're on this topic? It'this is a relatively new work of you guys that maybe people haven't heard of. To me, this also maps closely to OpenClaw. When people want an office agent, when the personal agent talk through the experience.Bengt the Office Agent: Internet Access, Real Tasks, and Trace ReadingLukas [00:35:09]: I think at least so this came out of like obviously like it's, it's amazing to work with these AI labs and like most of the AI labs have now have their own vending machine running a Claudius instance. But it's, it's harder. Like they move slower. Like if we wanna have a, like a camera that ‘s yeah, there's a bunch of like bureaucracy that makes it impossible to do that.Vibhu [00:35:30]: Also, for those that haven't seen it or followed, do you wanna give a high level like thirty-second run?Lukas [00:35:34]: Sure. So what Bengt is, it's basically an evolution of the same agent that runs the vending machines at these companies, but we just like added a bunch more features because we could move much faster if we just do it internally. So we gave it like email withou- without any limits. We gave it, spending without any limits, a terminal to do coding. We gave it, a phone number, like yeah, and a camera to see things and a bunch of stuff like that.Vibhu [00:36:02]: Not just terminal, you gave it internet access.Lukas [00:36:04]: Internet access as well, yeah. To be clear, we monitored it quite closely and made sure it didn't do anything bad. But yes, that's what it came out of. I think like yeah, basically this was OpenClaw before OpenClaw. And I think even like the vending machine was in a way OpenClaw before OpenClaw, but a bit more limited, and then we made this like unlimited and then, and then, it was pretty funny., and then a couple weeks later, OpenClaw came and it was okay, we've seen this before.Axel [00:36:35]: We used it to like try new ideas and Yeah, just like a dev environment almost for us. But it's funny, like one thing Bengt has been doing recently is it has the camera that like faces our, like where we sit and work, and we give it the task to train a face recognition model on us. So it became super excited about this, and it has like check-ins every half an hour where it tries to like identify as many people as it can. And it started offering us “Hey, Axel, I'll buy something from Amazon if you like stand in front of the camera And I can get a good picture of you.”, yeah, they want itSwyx [00:37:12]: They want it for training data.Lukas [00:37:13]: Rewarding data, yeah.Axel [00:37:14]: Exactly. Exactly.Swyx [00:37:18]: So it's, it's trading training data for life goods. Is there a version of this that becomes an eval or just this is just research for now?Lukas [00:37:27]: It's, it's the same agent basically that also runs the vending machine, that runs the shop, that runs the cafe, that runs the robots. It's like it's the same thing, so I think like the work we're doing here is like later used in all of the life evals that we do. This particular deployment I think is more for fun for us. But, uhSwyx [00:37:45]: And I'll shout out like someone has done Claw Bench for like some tasks that OpenClaw is doing. Like so For example, I run OpenClaw on a secondary device as well, and like there are some things that it does better than others and like I would like to know what does it do well, what doesn't, what doesn't it do. Like some kind of manual or like operating manual or a system card for my Claw.Lukas [00:38:05]: Yeah, we do get a lot of like understanding or like situational awareness of like just internally what the models are good at by interacting a lot with Bengt. And I think that'this was also one of the like the selling points for the labs early on at least, thatSwyx [00:38:19]: You guys are gonna test models in ways that no one else does.Lukas [00:38:22]: Exactly, but also like it incentivized their researchers to chat with their model more and like gave them insights for how the model performs in like of-distributions, environments.Swyx [00:38:34]: ‘Cause otherwise the only thing we do is Pelican on a bicycle and But this is like super long horizon. This is, this is The Thing about, something that we're gonna go into Butter Bench as well, and you guys do really well. Like it is not just about the numbers. Like when you're long horizon, anything happen And you should just read it.Lukas [00:39:08]: But the thing with the long horizon is how do you keep it grounded, right? So your simulation,Swyx [00:39:15]: They just let it runLukas [00:39:16]: Just let it run. You're right. Like it's, when you run it for that long, you create so much data and to just say “Oh, the number is X” And then you throw away everything else, that's just very wasteful. There's so much insights from the things leading up, to that number., and reading the traces is like super valuable. And I think like the reason why we're doing this a lot publicly is that like that's part of our missions to I don't know, educate the world that the models are way more than just chatbots and I think making detailed, yeah, posts about what is happening behind the scenes is quite useful.Andon Labs' Mission: Safe Real-World AI DeploymentSwyx [00:39:50]: I was gonna do this at the end, but maybe I think that's, that's a good so your mission is educating the world. So, it's, it's, also like maybe establishing realistic evals that are, that are like the next frontier. Is there like a broader trajectory? Like what are you, what are you gonna do in like five years?Lukas [00:40:06]: I think so the vision more specifically is like make sure that the deployment of life AI in the physical world goes, safely. And I think part of that is that I think it's very useful for the world, for policymakers, for, model, researchers that they know where the models are, and I think you can't make intelligent decisions in society without knowing that they are way more than chatbots. I think a lot of people just think that they are only chatbots. And likeSwyx [00:40:36]: Oh, I think they're waking up now.Lukas [00:40:37]: They are waking up now, yeah. But like if you think that AIs are just chatbots, then it's like it sounds ridiculous To advocate for a pause of AI. But if you see the models that, oh, maybe they can actually like take over and do a bunch of scary stuff, then yeah, pausing AI development starts to become more feasible.Swyx [00:40:57]: This is the same question I asked Meter, which I'm gonna ask you now, which is like you are tracking and you are at the frontier or defining the frontier of what, good evals for agents are, right? And I think you do, you do benefit when the models are better and you ‘re “Oh, here's like now it makes like $30,000 instead of $10,000,” right? At some point do you flip from “Yay,” to, “Oh, no”?Axel [00:41:19]: I think, yeah, we're always in sort of that, like we're, we're always in that mode,. Like where like you said before, like you need to analyze the traces and like when we do that you find like why are the models earning so much? Like why is Opus 4.7 here Like way better than everyone else? And like we're trying to like when we do down on thatLukas [00:41:38]: But this makes it not look so good.Axel [00:41:39]: I know.Lukas [00:41:42]: It's interesting you took off Opus 4.6 here though.Swyx [00:41:45]: No. So just click all, click all., and then 4.6 shows up there. But it's like 4.7 is way better. Like you didn't, you didn't you didn't do this in time for the model card, but like actually this should have been inside there.Axel [00:41:55]: We did. Yeah.Swyx [00:41:56]: Oh, okay. They said something about you uhAxel [00:41:58]: There, like there Anyway, it doesn't matter. But it's in there, yeah.Opus, Mythos, and Aggressive Agent BehaviorSwyx [00:42:01]: Do you wanna go into the Opus, behaviors like wider?Lukas [00:42:05]: So I think starting from Opus, so like Axel said, like we're always in this “Oh, s**t, the models are getting better. Is this really a good thing for the world?” But it's also kind of exciting., but yeah, like this kind of what is the English word? “Skräckblandad förtjusning” in Swedish.Swyx [00:42:22]: Oh my God.Axel [00:42:24]: Which I think there is. I think there is. Okay.Lukas [00:42:26]: It's, fearSwyx [00:42:27]: “Blandonst” what?Lukas [00:42:30]: “Skräckblandad förtjusning.”Swyx [00:42:32]: What do you call that?Axel [00:42:33]: A mix of, mix of excitement and,Swyx [00:42:37]: Being scared, maybe. I'll figure out how to translate that And we'll put it on the screenVibhu [00:42:42]: PerfectSwyx [00:42:42]: Like as text.Vibhu [00:42:43]: There is probably a good word for it where it is not Good enough with theSwyx [00:42:46]: Why is it so damn long? What the hell? Is it like a compound word? It's like German, likeLukas [00:42:50]: Like yeah, it's But the direct translation is like skräck- skräck is, fear, blandad is, mix or like a mixture of, and then förtjusning is like joy or like not really joy, but something like that. So it's like Fear mixed with joy or something. It's always okay, like we So when we when we did Vending Bench for the first time, we were in like the, in the business of making dangerous capabilities, right? That was what Anil Labs came from. We did, evals oh, can they replicate? Can they do this like dangerous thing, et cetera, et cetera. And Vending Bench was like a continuation of that work. It was, okay, if they're so autonomous that they can like create money for themselves, that is something we should monitor and could be potentially concerning., they are at the time, they were so bad at it that we were not really concerned even when some models became better. There was one point where Grok 4 was doing really well and made like a huge jump, but like it wasn't really it was still way worse than what a human would do. And I think still they are way worse than what the human would do on this., but theySwyx [00:43:59]: There's this, thing at the bottom whereLukas [00:44:01]: ButSwyx [00:44:03]: For the human. Yeah, like the theoretical best.Lukas [00:44:05]: It's not theoretical. It's like kind of like our It's our best guess of what, a decent human would do. The theoretical is even higher, I think. The theoretical I think is even higher. But yeah. So we think like the models have a long way to go. But there are like recently what happened with when Opus 4.6 was released, was kind of this moment of “Oh, s**t, this is starting to be a bit concerning.” Because we ran it and like before this model was released, we just ran the models and we like asked Claude Code, “Oh, look over the traces. Is anything interesting happening that we can tweet about?” that was like the And then like theSwyx [00:44:41]: That's how they check Ask Claude Code.Lukas [00:44:42]: And like the return was always, not really. Or like the Claude Code all said “Oh, this is super interesting.” And then it was no, it wasn't, wasn't really interesting. And then we did this for Opus 4.6, and it returned yeah, it lied 10 times. It like exploited another, customer or like another agent's, desperate situation. It made price cartels like 100 different ti- 100 times. It like did all of this like shady stuff. And we're “Oh, whoa. This is, this is actually concerning.” And this trend has continued since. So every single model from Anthropic since have been going in this direction. And I think one interesting thing is that, OpenAI models don't. They quite plainly, they don't. They behave really well., and you don't know if this is like good. Like it seems good, but it's also like maybe they are just doing it, but they are better at hiding it,? You You don't know that., but justSwyx [00:45:42]: You can't read the chain of thought, yeahLukas [00:45:43]: But just on the face of it, yeah, Gemini and OpenAI don't behave this way. It's, it's really only Claude.Swyx [00:45:49]: And Grok? Grok is fine?Lukas [00:45:51]: We don't have You can't really read the reasoning traces for Grok, so it's kind of hard to tell.Vibhu [00:45:56]: Oh, so this is in its reasoning, not just in the actions.Lukas [00:46:00]: Yeah. It's both. It's both.Vibhu [00:46:01]: It's both.Lukas [00:46:01]: One example is like for lying, it's mostly in its reasoning Because you can like see that it's likeSwyx [00:46:08]: Planning to lieLukas [00:46:09]: It's planning to lie. Yeah.Vibhu [00:46:09]: And it's also it can reason and do a different outcome.Lukas [00:46:12]: And but then for like creating price cartels, for example, which is illegal, that you can just see which email does it send to the other ones. Then thatSwyx [00:46:22]: Is this for Arena orLukas [00:46:24]: For Arena.Vibhu [00:46:25]: And usually like if you sometimes they do output like a bit of like their summarized reasoning, right? You can see that and like for Opus 4.6, you could see that there was a customer, a simulated customer that, wanted a refund because a product was, faulty, and then the model lied that it would do the refund, and we could read in the traces that, it actually was weighing “Oh, maybe I should be like honest with the customer, but also every dollar counts. I can't afford maybe to do this right now.” And then it just said, “Okay, I'll refund you,” but then never did it.Lukas [00:46:59]: I think it even said that “Oh, I will say that I “ Let bring it up actually. I think it's kind of interesting. If you go to Publications.Vibhu [00:47:06]: I think, yeah, I think the important part is like actually, the cost of responding to more emails is higher than, $3.50 in terms of time., and then it was “Let me do this. Actually, I re- I'm reconsidering.” And then, it actually ended up withLukas [00:47:20]: I could skip the refund entirely since every dollar matters and focus my energy on bigger picture instead. It's a bit, it's a risk of bad reviews, but it's also, yeah.Swyx [00:47:30]: You need, you need, AI Twitter to, for them to Escalate bad reviews.Lukas [00:47:34]: And then it sent an email to this customer and said, “Oh, I will refund you.”Swyx [00:47:39]: “I'll refund you.” Yeah.Lukas [00:47:39]: And then it never did.Swyx [00:47:39]: It never did, yeah. And then there's obviously your system doesn't have the consequencesVibhu [00:47:44]: The personSwyx [00:47:44]: Consequences of lying. Yeah. So basically, this is what people are terming aggressive behavior in Claudes, right? And, you found more examples of that. So you would say it's a step up from 4-6 to 4-7?Lukas [00:47:57]: I would say about the same.Swyx [00:47:58]: About the same? But a clear step up for Mythos is what is stated in theLukas [00:48:03]: That's stated in the system prompt, so we can say that, yes.Swyx [00:48:05]: Yeah. For listeners that obviously you previewed Mythos, andVibhu [00:48:10]: Oh, ageSwyx [00:48:11]: The only thing you're approved to say is whatever Whatever was in the system prompt.Lukas [00:48:15]: It was funny. We like-- It's like our lowest effort tweets ever would be just like screenshot the system prompt and the system card.Vibhu [00:48:21]: Understandable that they wannaLukas [00:48:22]: Oh, yeah. System card. Sorry.Swyx [00:48:23]: Yeah. I think, yeah, substantially more aggressive. I think people are like new to this ‘cause I've never experienced it, but you have, right? And then so I only encountered this in the Mythos card because I wasn't really looking until now.Vibhu [00:48:36]: It ‘s likeSwyx [00:48:36]: And then suddenly I'm “Okay, I care a lot.”Vibhu [00:48:38]: You don't get the background of like experiencing it like you guys do. I've read the system cards and seeing, okay, when you put the thing in simulations, most models will just talk to themselves and just keep going and have weird vibes and start talking in emojis. Mythos won't. It will just, “Okay, we're done. I'm good.” It's, it's ready to end conversation. So like there's some differences, but there's, there's not much we can talk about,.Lukas [00:49:00]: Hmm. I think like one thing that they list here, which was quite interesting, is that, it converted a competitor to a dependent wholesaler customer and then threatened to like cut off the supply.Swyx [00:49:11]: It's like monopolistic practices orLukas [00:49:14]: Yeah. And like it, they, it they dictated its pricings. It's kind of like power seeking as well.Swyx [00:49:18]: Again, this is, this is in the arena setting And converting some Claude model into a dependent.Lukas [00:49:23]: I think it was another Claude model.Vibhu [00:49:25]: Also for context, what is the arena mode for people that don't know?Vending Bench Arena: Competing Agents, Cartels, and Model ComparisonsSwyx [00:49:29]: Oh, it's just a vending bench versus other vending bench.Axel [00:49:31]: Yes, exactly. So we have Vending Bench 2 and then Vending Bench Arena. Vending Bench 2 is the one that you usually see reported on, but then Arena is the mode where it competes against other models. So you have, four different models that run their businesses, and they can all communicate with each other. They have the same suppliers, and they can see like what's in the inventory of the others. So then you have this like yeah, interesting agent interactions.Swyx [00:49:56]: I like that you have like different number five was US versus China. Very topical. And thenLukas [00:50:02]: That was when GLM was released.Vibhu [00:50:04]: You can start to add GLM in here.Lukas [00:50:05]: That wasSwyx [00:50:06]: So ZAI doing well, right? Who else in the, in the open models space?Lukas [00:50:11]: Qwen, the latest Qwen 3.6 is doing pretty well. It'- that one is not open though. Like it's the plus model.Swyx [00:50:17]: Oh, okay.Lukas [00:50:18]: Is that one open? I don't think that oneVibhu [00:50:19]: Not the, not theSwyx [00:50:20]: The one recentlyVibhu [00:50:20]: There's MOESwyx [00:50:20]: But not the big plus. I think this is one of those like you only have one sample size of one, right? Or I feel like some of this is anecdotal,? And but like the fact that it happens at all and it happens repeatedly for Claude versus OpenAI and all this is like notable.Lukas [00:50:38]: Like the sample, depends on what you define as an N., like there's like million, hundreds of millions of tokens in each run, and now we've run like we run like probably 10 per model and then like it's been Claude 4.6 Opus, Sonnet 4.6, Mythos, and Opus 4.7. Like there's quite a lot of tokens in all of that And it happens a lot of times, a lot of times. And then you compare it to like OpenAI and Gemini, and it almost never happens. So I think that is quite-- that is significant. The old models from OpenAI, for example, had some problems with this, but I think it's like generally much better if the progression is that like the worrying stuff reduces over time rather than increases over time. And it seems like in the Claude models it goes in the wrong direction.Swyx [00:51:28]: Hmm.Lukas [00:51:29]: In the OpenAI models it goes in the right direction.Vibhu [00:51:32]: I think it depends on how well you can control it, right?, there's one side of it being susceptible to this okay, this is potentially something that happens during the RL stage, right? You can RL a model and how loose is it on these terms. If you can control it, that's good. But if you can't, if it's, if it's very jailbreakable, that's not ideal.Swyx [00:51:50]: To me, it's surprising that it happens for Claude and not the others.Vibhu [00:51:54]: I think okay, if it is from RL and how they do it, how their training data is, what their setup is, it makes sense that it just stays in how they're doing it, right? Compared to the other models likeSwyx [00:52:04]: There's a whole constitution and everything. It's kind of cool. Yeah, I obviously you don't know, I don't know. But, it ‘s I think it's just like fascinating to like that you are the first to find these like reliably because you push models so much to to such an extreme. Okay. The only other thing, I don't know if you can answer this, feel free to decline, is do you like-- would you ablate the system prompts? Like any part of this would-- if it changes, does it change the behavior, right?Lukas [00:52:29]: So we, I can't comment on Mythos. UhSwyx [00:52:33]: No, but just li

Welcome back. A lot happened. Let's get into it.NIO ES9 deliveries kicked off yesterday — one day early.NIO hired NBA legend Yao Ming as Chief Experience Officer.The stock surged 9.3% in the US and 10.45% in Hong Kong.The higher-priced Executive Signature Edition and HorizonSpecial Edition trims are selling far above managementexpectations — a margin story that flows directly intoQ2 revenue per unit.NIO Q1 2026: Revenue $3.7 billion — up 123% year over year.Deliveries 83,465 — up 98.3%. Vehicle margin 18.8% — fourthconsecutive quarterly improvement. Net loss narrowed to 332million yuan from 6.75 billion yuan a year ago. Q2 guidance:110,000-115,000 deliveries. Bank of America doubled its stake.Morgan Stanley and Bernstein both upgraded.Xpeng Q1 2026: Revenue $1.89 billion — down 17.6% year overyear. Deliveries 62,682 — down 33.3%. Gross margin 20.6%.Same market. Same quarter. Two completely different storiesabout brand positioning and where each company sits in theChinese EV landscape.Ferrari unveiled the Luce on May 25th — their first fullyelectric production car, designed with Jony Ive, priced at$645,000. Italy's deputy prime minister said it doesn't looklike a Ferrari. The Chinese internet compared it to a NissanLeaf. Ferrari's stock dropped 8% on launch day. China'sluxury EV market — NIO ET9 at 818K yuan, Maextro S800 at1 million yuan — doesn't need Ferrari's validation. It'salready here and already won.PCE inflation hit 3.8% for April — highest in nearly threeyears. And Wall Street is quietly profiting from the samewar it publicly says it wants to end. The financial incentiveskeeping Hormuz closed are enormous. Follow the money.

Een pijnlijke ruzie tussen China en de EU. Eentje die kan uitmonden in een handelsoorlog. Het begon allemaal met een plan van Brussel. De Europese Commissie vindt dat de handel met China niet eerlijk verloopt en wil de tarieven op Chinese spullen gaan verhogen. Tot woede van de Chinezen. China waarschuwt dat het tegenmaatregelen neemt als Europa doorzet. En over die escalatie hebben we het deze aflevering. Wat gebeurt er als China terugslaat? Welke aandelen hebben er dan last van? En is Trump de lachende derde? Over Trump gesproken: hij viel opnieuw Iran aan. Net nu het leek dat er een akkoord lag tussen het Iraanse regime en de Trump-regering. We kijken wat die aanval betekent voor de olieprijs en voor de beurzen wereldwijd. Ook hoor je over het opvallende vertrek van de CFO van Adyen. Hij was tien jaar lang belangrijk voor het bedrijf, maar gaat weg. De financiele man gaat zelfs helemaal de fintechwereld uit. Verder vertellen we je alles over de bijzondere stap van KPN. Dat slaat de handen ineen met de eigenaar van Lidl. Samen willen ze een vuist bieden tegen de cloud-macht van de Amerikanen. Te gast: debutant Thomas Pellegrom van ABN Amro MeesPierson BNR Beurs is een journalistiek onafhankelijke productie, mede mogelijk gemaakt door Saxo. Over de makers: Jelle Maasbach is presentator van BNR Beurs en freelance financieel journalist. Zijn favoriete aandeel om over te praten is Disney, maar daar lijkt hij de enige in te zijn. Sinds de eerste uitzending van BNR Beurs is 'ie er bij. Maxim van Mil is presentator van BNR Beurs en journalist bij BNR, waar hij zich focust op de financiële markten en ontwikkelingen in de tech-wereld. Je krijgt hem het meest enthousiast als hij kan praten over ASML, of oer-Hollandse bedrijven zoals Ahold of ABN Amro. Jorik Simonides is presentator van BNR Beurs, economieredacteur en verslaggever bij BNR. Hij wordt er vooral blij van als het een keer níet over AI gaat. Milou Brand is presentator van BNR Beurs, freelance podcastmaker en columnist bij het Financieele Dagblad. Jochem Visser is presentator van BNR Beurs, maakt Beursnerd XL en is redacteur bij de podcast Onder Curatoren. Vraag hem naar obscure zaken op financiële markten en hij vertelt je waarom het eigenlijk nóg leuker is dan je al dacht. Over de podcast: Met BNR Beurs ga je altijd voorbereid de nieuwe beursdag in. We praten je in een kleine 25 minuten bij over alle laatste ontwikkelingen op de handelsvloer. We blijven niet alleen bij de AEX of Wall Street, maar vertellen je ook waar nog meer kansen liggen. En we houden het niet bij de cijfers, maar zoeken ook iedere dag voor je naar duiding van scherpe gasten en experts. Of je nu een ervaren belegger bent of net begint met je eerste stappen op de beurs, de podcast biedt waardevolle inzichten voor je beleggingsstrategie. Door de focus op zowel de korte termijn als de lange termijn, helpt BNR Beurs luisteraars om de ruis van de markt te scheiden van de essentie. Van Musk tot Microsoft en van Ahold tot ASML. Wij vertellen je wat beleggers bezighoudt, wie de markten in beweging zet en wat dat betekent voor jouw beleggingsportefeuille. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Een pijnlijke ruzie tussen China en de EU. Eentje die kan uitmonden in een handelsoorlog. Het begon allemaal met een plan van Brussel. De Europese Commissie vindt dat de handel met China niet eerlijk verloopt en wil de tarieven op Chinese spullen gaan verhogen. Tot woede van de Chinezen. China waarschuwt dat het tegenmaatregelen neemt als Europa doorzet. En over die escalatie hebben we het deze aflevering. Wat gebeurt er als China terugslaat? Welke aandelen hebben er dan last van? En is Trump de lachende derde? Over Trump gesproken: hij viel opnieuw Iran aan. Net nu het leek dat er een akkoord lag tussen het Iraanse regime en de Trump-regering. We kijken wat die aanval betekent voor de olieprijs en voor de beurzen wereldwijd. Ook hoor je over het opvallende vertrek van de CFO van Adyen. Hij was tien jaar lang belangrijk voor het bedrijf, maar gaat weg. De financiele man gaat zelfs helemaal de fintechwereld uit. Verder vertellen we je alles over de bijzondere stap van KPN. Dat slaat de handen ineen met de eigenaar van Lidl. Samen willen ze een vuist bieden tegen de cloud-macht van de Amerikanen. Te gast: debutant Thomas Pellegrom van ABN Amro MeesPierson BNR Beurs is een journalistiek onafhankelijke productie, mede mogelijk gemaakt door Saxo. Over de makers: Jelle Maasbach is presentator van BNR Beurs en freelance financieel journalist. Zijn favoriete aandeel om over te praten is Disney, maar daar lijkt hij de enige in te zijn. Sinds de eerste uitzending van BNR Beurs is 'ie er bij. Maxim van Mil is presentator van BNR Beurs en journalist bij BNR, waar hij zich focust op de financiële markten en ontwikkelingen in de tech-wereld. Je krijgt hem het meest enthousiast als hij kan praten over ASML, of oer-Hollandse bedrijven zoals Ahold of ABN Amro. Jorik Simonides is presentator van BNR Beurs, economieredacteur en verslaggever bij BNR. Hij wordt er vooral blij van als het een keer níet over AI gaat. Milou Brand is presentator van BNR Beurs, freelance podcastmaker en columnist bij het Financieele Dagblad. Jochem Visser is presentator van BNR Beurs, maakt Beursnerd XL en is redacteur bij de podcast Onder Curatoren. Vraag hem naar obscure zaken op financiële markten en hij vertelt je waarom het eigenlijk nóg leuker is dan je al dacht. Over de podcast: Met BNR Beurs ga je altijd voorbereid de nieuwe beursdag in. We praten je in een kleine 25 minuten bij over alle laatste ontwikkelingen op de handelsvloer. We blijven niet alleen bij de AEX of Wall Street, maar vertellen je ook waar nog meer kansen liggen. En we houden het niet bij de cijfers, maar zoeken ook iedere dag voor je naar duiding van scherpe gasten en experts. Of je nu een ervaren belegger bent of net begint met je eerste stappen op de beurs, de podcast biedt waardevolle inzichten voor je beleggingsstrategie. Door de focus op zowel de korte termijn als de lange termijn, helpt BNR Beurs luisteraars om de ruis van de markt te scheiden van de essentie. Van Musk tot Microsoft en van Ahold tot ASML. Wij vertellen je wat beleggers bezighoudt, wie de markten in beweging zet en wat dat betekent voor jouw beleggingsportefeuille. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Thursday, April 30, 2026 The Dominant Duo – Total Dominance Hour -LIV Golf is finished, lackluster playoff games, Yao Ming, NBA Playoffs-Denver problems, Thunder vs Spurs? and more. Follow the Sports Animal on Facebook, Instagram and X PLUS Jim Traber on Instagram, Berry Tramel on X and Dean Blevins on X Follow Tony Z on Instagram and Facebook Listen to past episodes HERE! Follow Total Dominance Podcasts on Apple, Google and SpotifySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On se lance aujourd'hui dans une tier list consacrée au first pick, allant de l'année 2000 à la dernière cuvée 2025. De LeBron James à Victor Wembanyama en passant par Yao Ming, Anthony Bennett, Kyrie Irving, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose et Dwight Howard, on essaye de classer les anciens premiers choix de la draft... Et c'est tout sauf simple !Avec Fred Weis et Nicolas Sarnak.Jacques Monclar, Rémi Reverchon, Mary Patrux, Xavier Vaution, Fred Weis et Chris Singleton décryptent l'actualité de la NBA dans le Podcast NBA Extra, présenté par Nicolas Sarnak et Baptiste Denis.En complément de l'émission lancée en 2012, beIN SPORTS a créé, avec ce podcast, un nouveau format pour revenir en profondeur sur la ligue nord-américaine de basketball. Chaque semaine, les membres de l'émission débattent autour de trois thèmes majeurs, qui font l'actualité de la NBA.Un podcast à retrouver aussi sur Youtube : https://tinyurl.com/y4sabkns Hébergé par Audion. Visitez https://www.audion.fm/fr/privacy-policy pour plus d'informations.

Tony Ronzone has scouted basketball in over 100 countries. He found Dirk Nowitzki before the NBA knew his name. He motivated Kobe Bryant to restore glory to USA basketball, and he once flew into North Korea on a USA passport, trying to sign a 7'9" player with a wheat deal.This week Mo and Coach Brendan Suhr sit down with Tony Ronzone - former Dallas Mavericks international director, three-time Olympic gold medal staff member with Team USA, and now an agent at The Team. Tony's career has taken him everywhere the game has ever been played, and his stories are unlike anything you'll hear on any other basketball podcast.If you ever wondered who the people behind the scenes actually are, the ones who built the modern NBA's international era before anyone was watching, this is that conversation. Listen or watch to the end: the North Korea story alone is worth it.Topics covered: How Tony helped Coach K and Jerry Colangelo rebuild USA Basketball after the 2004 Greece disaster The Kobe Bryant story: 13 clips of Barbosa scoring on him, and what happened the next day How Tony and Donnie Nelson scouted Dirk Nowitzki and engineered the trade to secure him at pick 6 Why you cannot evaluate European players using their stats Tony coaching the Chinese Olympic team and finding Yao Ming at 14 years old His trip inside North Korea to evaluate a 7'9" player named Michael Rhi Whether USA Basketball can still guarantee gold at the 2028 Olympics Why the NBA has become a copycat league with no sets and no counters Cam Thomas: what happened in Brooklyn and Milwaukee, and what comes next The 2025 draft names catching Tony's eye right now

Eamon Sheerin interviewed Glenn Cully, a content creator who has interviewed notable Barstool employees including KFC and Jake Malasek. They discussed Glenn's preparation process for interviews, which involves creating detailed question lists and spending several hours preparing before recording. Glenn shared his experience as a KFC Radio fan who started leaving voicemails in 2021, eventually rebranding with his face visible after some initial unsuccessful attempts. The conversation included hypothetical scenarios about dream Barstool golf matches and fight scenarios between Allen Iverson and Yao Ming, with Glenn favoring Iverson in both cases. They also discussed celebrity dinner preferences, with Glenn choosing Jalen Brown and Cutsey Joey Cold Cuts as ideal interview subjects, and the podcast ended with Glenn selecting J. Cole music for the outro.

Doomscrollin hosted by Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike Check out Sam Tripoli's new comic book "Chaos Twins!" 2nd issue is about to drop! Visit www.chaostwins.com to support Sam's family-friendly project! Check out Sam Tripoli's 3rd Crowd Work Special "Barbecued: Live From Kansas City" Sept 20th on Youtube.com/SamTripoliComedy Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Hollywood, CA: 2/10 Perryville, MD: 2/20 Pottstown, PA: 2/21 Las Vegas, NV: 2/28 Bakersfield, CA: 3/6 Yuma, AZ: 3/7 Hollywood, CA: 3/10 Batavia, IL: 3/26-3/28 Dallas, TX: 4/24 Fort Worth, TX: 4/25 Albuquerque, NM: 6/12-6/13 Austin, TX: 6/18 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Austin, TX: Dec 11th-13th Watch Sam's comedy special here: www.youtube.com/samtripoli Please check out Sam Tripoli's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Please check out Midnight Mike's Internet: The OBDM Podcast Website: https://ourbigdumbmouth.com/ Twitter: https://x.com/obdmpod Check out the Naked Gardener's Band: The 3rd Pyramid Band - Topic https://bit.ly/4fpNMMr Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dana Leong travels to Hangzhou to join NBA legend Yao Ming for his annual charity basketball weekend—and to find out how Yao turned fame into a platform for rural education, youth sports, and real opportunity. From gala stages to courtside commentary and a powerful moment with a young player on a prosthetic leg, this conversation is a masterclass in quiet, compounding impact.​​Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UpgradeMePodSupport #UpgradeMe on Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/UpgradeMePod#UpgradeMe #YaoMing #Basketball #China #SportsForGood #Inspiration

Despite the almost four-hour runtime of Part 5, the show must go on as the self-imposed Christmas deadline inches closer and closer. Andy and Brendan are once again joined by PJ and KVV to chat through a set of four events following Rory's win at the Masters. Before the Year in Review gets back underway, the four recap this week's biggest news: Alejandro Tosti's performance at PGA Tour Q-School. Everyone is giddy to have Tosti back for another season on the big tour and they commend him for fighting through Q-School for a second time. Andy, Brendan, and Kevin also discuss some late-breaking golf news regarding the National Links Trust and the Trump administration's plan to renovate the three public golf courses in Washington D.C. The Year in Review resumes with a look back at the RBC Heritage and the immediate wake of one of the greatest wins in golf history. PJ runs through a week's worth of Rory reactions before unveiling the important stuff, such as Grant Horvat's Barracuda exemption (unused) and Wesley Bryan's PGA Tour suspension (still seemingly ongoing). Justin Thomas returned to the winner's circle in Hilton Head, getting over the finish line for the first time since the 2022 PGA Championship. Andy is next up with the Zurich Classic, where Rory McIlroy made his return to golf in a team event alongside Shane Lowry. Andy rediscovers the backboarding that occurred at a disastrous Chevron Championship and the power outage that led to the golf world being exposed to a Champions Tour Sunday on national TV. He also shares that one of the great technological achievements of our time happened this week! Brendan has the honor of recapping PGA Tour history, as Scottie Scheffler burned down TPC Craig T. Nelson Ranch and tied the all-time scoring record in a runaway win. All that may be great, but Brendan is most excited about the children in attendance chanting while a bulldozer wrecked the practice green ahead of Lanny's renovation. KVV comes in to close things out again, handling the first-ever Truist Championship. His findings lead the group down a rabbit-hole of past HSBC photo shoots, complete with a flying Henrik Stenson and Yao Ming. The 2025 Year in Review returns on Wednesday with the long-awaited Rise of Rea.

“What does Derick Lively's season-ending surgery really mean for the Mavericks—and is this the start of a bigger problem?” That's the burning question Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray tackle in today's Ben and Skin Show.The crew breaks down the shocking news that Mavs center Derrick Lively II will undergo season-ending foot surgery after playing just seven games this year. While the official line promises a full recovery by training camp, the gang isn't buying it at face value. Skin dives deep into the history of injury issues for ultra-tall players—citing Yao Ming, Chet Holmgren, and even Anthony Davis—and wonders if Lively's future is now in serious doubt.

O Maquinistas de hoje recebe Arnon de Mello para discutir O FUTURO da NBA no Brasil e no Mundo. Arnon é diretor-executivo da NBA na América Latina e Canadá e oferece diversos insights sobre os planos da liga para essas regiões.Durante o episódio, o executivo explica como a estrutura de governança da NBA funciona, numa conjunção de times, donos e jogadores.Arnon também fala do acelerado processo de internacionalização na liga, principalmente no continente europeu e no Canadá, com diversos jogadores relevantes já jogando na NBA. O executivo também não deixa de falar do Brasil que tornou-se, nos últimos anos um dos grandes mercados da NBA fora do EUA.No Maquinistas de hoje, você fica sabendo de toda a estratégia por trás da expansão internacional da maior liga de basquete do mundo.00:00 O processo de internacionalização da NBA01:16 O cargo de Arnon e as diferenças entre o mercado do Canadá e América Latina04:32 O organograma da NBA07:20 O equilíbrio de forças na NBA09:48 O papel do comissário da NBA e dos times11:00 A criação da NBA Europa12:25 A entrada estratégica da NBA no continente europeu e a internacionalização da liga19:30 Como a NBA engaja o fã brasileiro25:36 A tentativa de trazer um jogo da NBA para o Brasil26:08 A excelência nos processos da NBA32:40 O trabalho para levar as novas gerações na NBA37:06 O ambiente colaborativo no mercado americano e a situação no Brasil42:16 A importância da experiência do fã43:54 Como trazer a cultura do esporte como negócio para o Brasil47:18 A importância de pertencer a uma comunidade de fãs47:54 O protagonismo da NBA na comunidade e a experiência do fã50:35 Os critérios para permitir a entrada de novos times da NBA 58:34 Os planos para o Brasil em 202601:00:42 A importância de David Stern, Michael Jordan e Yao Ming na globalização da NBA01:03:52 Como Arnon mudou desde que chegou na NBA01:05:36 Momento Gheorge01:07:24 A paciência de Adam SIlver, comissário da NBA

Basketball is more than a favorite American pastime. It has expanded into a global cultural movement that combines sports, fashion, and lifestyle. Chinese players such as Yao Ming and Jeremy Lin drew attention to untapped basketball talent in Asia and helped bring basketball culture to China. The Asian University Basketball League (AUBL) taps into that energy through elevating Asian university-level basketball competition on the continent. The AUBL, drawing from the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) in the United States for inspiration, seeks to capture and shape a uniquely Asian basketball fan culture. How is Asia a new frontier for one of America's biggest sports exports?  AUBL CEO Jay Li joined us in August 2025 to share the future of university-level basketball in Asia and its potential to bridge people across countries.    

Chris From Brooklyn is back at it again this time from Good Boy Studio in Philidelphia and he's joined by Dru Montana to discuss why parts of Philly look like a scene out of "They Live", Yao Ming's love for the city, the laddy who did the N-Word tower on Wheel of Fortune, Zohran not being able to put up some paltry weights at a Brooklyn mens day, Dru's boy who got crushed trying to squat, the new flag burning laws in America, how it would go if Obama would ever come on the program, the resurgence of fast casual dinning, other countries not sending us mail, the Israeli security chief who just missed his court apperance for pedophile charges and so much more!Record Date: 08/02/25WATCH CHRIS' NEW "NOT SPECIAL" HEREhttps://www.youtube.com/@HighSocietyRadioPodcastDo Trivia Hosted By Harrigton At Tavern On Reade Every Tuesday at 7:30https://tavernonreade.com/Big Armored League Events In September & Octoberhttps://www.thearmoredleague.com/ticketsSUPPORT OUR SPONSORhttps://xbar.com/ - Get JACKED with an X Bar!FatDickHotChocolate.net - Get a fat dick by drinking chocolate!Email Your Ask The Goon Questions to: askthegoon@gmail.comFollow the hosts on socialChris From Brooklyn Twitter https://twitter.com/ChrisFromBklynHigh Society Radio Instagram https://www.instagram.com/highsocietyradioHigh Society Radio YouTube http://bit.ly/HSRYoutubeHigh Society Radio Twitter https://twitter.com/HSRadioshowWebsite https://gasdigital.comFind Dru Here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dru_montanaTwitter: https://x.com/dru_montana47Durag & The Deertag: https://www.youtube.com/@duragandthedeertagDigital Bazooka: https://www.youtube.com/@digitalbazookaMike Harrington Twitter https://twitter.com/TheMHarringtonMike Harrington Instagram https://www.instagram.com/themharrington/Notes Of A Goon is a weekly podcast where Goon of note, Chris from BK sits down and yells about childhood trauma, how he'd fix the whole damn country, and all sorts of other bullshit. All while splitting a six pack with you the listener. Chris is joined by his stalwart producer and homeless weirdo Mike Harrington on this journey of self reflection and yelling. There's lots of yelling.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this episode, Mike and Jason discuss NBA players whose careers were significantly impacted by injuries. They explore the stories of Brandon Roy, Grant Hill, Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady, Ralph Sampson, Penny Hardaway, and Andrew Toney, reflecting on their potential and the impact of injuries on their careers. The conversation highlights the emotional connection fans have with these players and the 'what if' scenarios that arise from their shortened careers.Visit our Sponsors!Dr. Dish BasketballOur friends at Dr. Dish Basketball are here to help you transform your team's training this off-season with exclusive offers of up to $4,000 OFF their Rebel+, All-Star+, and CT+ shooting machines. Unsure about budget? Dr. Dish offers schools-only Buy Now, Pay Later payment plans to make getting new equipment easier than ever.The Coaching PortfolioYour first impression is everything when applying for a new coaching job. A professional coaching portfolio is the tool that highlights your coaching achievements and philosophies and, most of all, helps separate you and your abilities from the other applicants. Special Price of just $25 for all Hoop Heads Listeners.Wealth4CoachesEmpowering athletic coaches with financial education, strategic planning, and practical tools to build lasting wealth—on and off the court.If you listen to and love the Hoop Heads Podcast, please consider giving us a small tip that will help in our quest to become the #1 basketball coaching podcast. https://hoop-heads.captivate.fm/supportTwitter/X Podcast - @hoopheadspodMike - @hdstarthoopsJason - @jsunkleInstagram@hoopheadspodFacebookhttps://www.facebook.com/hoopheadspod/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDoVTtvpgwwOVL4QVswqMLQ

It’s Fan Out Friday. Khristina is joined by Dallas Wings center Li Yueru to talk about her trade from Seattle, building chemistry with new teammates like Paige Bueckers, and her journey from China to the WNBA. She also opens up about her entrepreneurial goals and her ambition to follow in Yao Ming’s footsteps by becoming a standout figure in both sports and culture. Want more women’s basketball scoop? Follow the show on Instagram @ICYMIwithKW and X @ICYMIwithKW and for more on Khristina, follow her on Instagram @khristinawilliams Let us know what you think of the show by leaving a rating and a review! CREDITS Executive Producers: Nikki Ettore Jessie Katz Tyler Klang Jonathan Strickland Producer: Buffy Gorrilla Producer & Editor: Tari Harrison Host: Khristina WilliamsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Swanny returns from vacation after almost getting run over by Yao Ming at Epcot. 

0:00 ... Show Open ... Ross welcomes the panel and makes his dedication of show #166 to Jonathan Kuminga and Russell Westbrook who both shot just 66% from the free throw line last season.  Bruce registers his disappointment with Ross's choice and suggests someone else. 1:54 ... The Charlotte Hornets are the NBA Summer League Champions ... Rookie Kon Knueppel led the way for the Hornets and we all learned the proper pronounciation of his first and last name.  The future looks promising for the Hornets after a string of losing seasons, but health will be a huge issue for the "Bugs." 7:53 ... Bruce wants to give some love to Bronny James, who looked like a different player in the Summer League and could be poised to do well this season. 9:04 .... The WNBA All Star Weekend made all kinds of news, especially with their warmup T-Shirts that said "Pay Us What You Owe Us."  The crew examines why the players in the "W" deserve more money and make suggestions on who should pay it. 13:09 ... As for the WNBA All Star game itself ..... it was a big bummer ... Rookie All-Star Paige Bueckers and ABC's Elle Duncan both trashed it on the air for the lack of defense and effort .... OUCH. 15:29 ... Bradley Beal certainly got paid and also got a ticket out of Phoenix to Los Angeles.  His departure from the Valley leaves lots of wreckage behind as the Suns will need to stretch $97 million of his salary over the next 5 seasons, causing a major financial hurdle for a team that needs more talent.  As for the Clippers, they have a lot of old dudes and are a textbook example of a "Win Now" team.  And with the addition of 40 year old Chris Paul, the clock is definitely ticking on the veteran team's "window." 22:00 ... With all the old guys on the Clippers, the crew suggests sponsors whose logos can appear on the uniform jerseys of the team.  Everyone took a shot and Ross's choice of "Depends" adult diapers was the clear winner among the crew. 23:40 ... 35 year old Damian Lillard is returning to the Portland Trailblazers and with the recent acquisition of another 35 year old guard, Jrue Holiday, the 48 Minutes crew is scratching their collective heads as to what the strategy of the team will be.  Does it mean that Scoot Henderson is on shaky ground with the Blazers? 28:56 ... Ross leads a discussion on Giannis and whether any of these moves might make him appreciate being in Milwaukee. 31:42 ... Former Celtic Marcus Smart will soon join the Lakers after being bought out by the Wizards.  Bruce and many other Celtics fans are all "up in their feelings" over this move. 35:05 ... Victor Wembanyama has been cleared to play again after suffering from blood clots in his shoulder last season.  These are exciting times in San Antonio with Wemby joining Stephon Castle and Dylan Harper on a team that will be a "League Pass Obsession." 37:53 ... The New Orleans Pelicans are looking like a hot mess tossed into a dumpster fire.  They've spent the entire off season making one questionable move after another.  Over the weekend, their top rookie Derik Queen suffered a wrist injury that will sideline him for three months.  New boss Joe Dumars is off to a "bumpy" start to say the least. 42:35 ... Good news in Denver .... recently acquired Jonas Valanciunas has agreed to stop his pursuit of a deal with a team in Greece and will play for the Nuggets as the backup for Nikola Jokic.  It's the right thing to do and the Denver fans deserve his best effort, even if he just plays one season for the Nuggets. 45:24 .... This week it's Ross's turn to try and stump his partners with this week's "Card Challenge."  Some of the players that Ross used to put Bruce and "World B" on the spot were Brandon Roy, Marcus Camby, Yao Ming, David Lee, Gary Payton, Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, and Dwight Howard. 53:48 ... Ross wraps things up and says goodbye ... TRT 54:05      

In this episode of Hoopsology, we dive deep into the global growth of basketball with an exclusive conversation featuring a key executive behind the Asia University Basketball League, AUBL CEO Jay Li. Learn how NBA legend Yao Ming's legacy inspired a new movement to elevate college basketball across Asia and how the AUBL is building the next generation of international hoops stars. Our guest discusses: Jay working with Yao Ming as chief of staff Why college sports are the missing piece in Asia's sports culture How the AUBL is modeled after March Madness and the NCAA The global future of basketball—including possible NBA expansion into Asia Behind-the-scenes of the hit anime basketball series Left-Hand Layup, now streaming on Crunchyroll Whether you're an NBA superfan, Rockets loyalist, or passionate about basketball culture around the world, this is a must-listen.

One of the best second-round picks in NBA history, Cuttino Mobley, stopped by Podcast P for another edition of Story Mode. The Philly native shared stories of his unconventional route to the NBA, how Scottie Pippen saved his NBA career, hanging out with Yao Ming in Shanghai, and much more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Send us a textIn this episode of Friday Night Beers, Tom & Vince drink Tsingtao. This beer comes from Tsingtao Brewery in Qing Dao Shi, Shan Dong Sheng China. They drink it and somehow compare it to things like Chinese-American cultural connections, Yao Ming, Wicked, Kung Fu movies, Jackie Chan and more. At the end, they rate this beer on a unique 1-5 scale. VINCE: 2.75 / 5 VincesTOM: 3 / 5 TomsInstagram: @friday.night.beersTwitter: @fnb_pod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@friday.night.beersEmail: friday.night.beerspodcast@gmail.com Theme music by Billy Hansa. Subscribe, rate and review the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you find your podcasts!

Yao Ming's journey to the NBA was filled with roadblocks and other problems. We share how Yao overcame legal and political hurdles to reach the Houston Rockets and the NBA.CREDITSRick Loayza: Head researcher, writer, and voiceJacob Loayza: Editor, producer, and publisher MUSIC"Ancient China by Mostakim Harun" by "Horizons" by Roa SPORTS HISTORY NETWORKsportshistorynetwork.comsportshistorynetwork.com/podcasts/basketball-history-101/ FACEBOOKm.facebook.com/Basketball-History-101-103801581493027/ BUSINESS CONTACTbballhistory101@gmail.com

Will and Alex are live from Chase Center in San Francisco, breaking down Gradey Dick's standout Rising Stars performance, rooting for Team G-League, Red Panda's legendary act, hanging out with Masai, chatting with Zach Edey about Yao Ming and dim sum, and behind-the-scenes stories from All-Star Weekend. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Listen to Yao Ming, former NBA player and former President of the Chinese Basketball Association, and Logan Tom, Vice President of Player Personnel for the U.S. Pro Volleyball Federation and head coach of Maccabi Raanana, talk about U.S.-China sports exchange in a discussion moderated by Nancy Yao, Assistant Professor Adjunct & Assistant Dean for the David Geffen School of Drama at Yale University. This dialogue was part of the 2024 U.S.-China People's Dialogue, which took place in Beijing on November 21, 2024. See full bios and learn more about the event: https://www.ncuscr.org/2024-us-china-peoples-dialogue/

On why one spends 27 years on an NBA beat—and why one retires from the gig. On the joys of Hakeem Olajuwon and Yao Ming and Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady. On the worst uniforms in NBA history. On a small Delaware gym and Ralph Sampson.

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April 11 -16 , 2004 This week Ken welcomes Bridge 9 Records and Sully Brands impresario Chris Wrenn to the show. Ken and Chris discuss their shared Boston punk rock history, the 2004 Red Sox World Series victory, regional variations, Ken's complete lack of sports knowledge, very specific niches, T-shirts that are hard to explain, building a community space, the sports punk rock overlap in Boston, vending outside of Fenway park, how weirdly horny 2004 was, JJ Jackson's death, being stuck in traffic outside a game, John Sayles, indecency on television, the Janet Jackson Justin Timberlake Superbowl incident, the Red Sox vs Yankees rivalry, the long history of novelty sporting sayings in New England, Stephen King's book about the 2004 Red Sox season, Fever Pitch, The Celtics, Mel Gibson, Quantum Leap, Outlander, the TV on DVD phenomenon, offensive cigarette discount stores, Ms Pac Man, Running your own dorm room video store, Gilmore Girls, working at Tower Records, making art projects, Yao Ming, when terrible things make money, The Town, DIY ethos, when TV Guide switched formats, and Romeo Must Die. 

Graham travels around the world to China to sit down with 8-time NBA All Star Yao Ming. The former Houston Rocket remembers his greatest NBA rival and high points from his career. He also discusses what could have been if not for chronic injuries, and the pain that still lingers in retirement. The Shanghai native also discusses his charitable and activist efforts and how he was inspired by the late Dikembe Mutombo.

Send us a textJohn and Jack delve into one of their favorite topics, THE GIANT WARS. This is an insane topic as it's rife throughout both the Tanakh and the Talmud. There is ample liturgical evidence of giants and the Jewish people fighting them. So let's delve into our biggest fans, be the Nephilim, Raphaim, or just Yao Ming. (To our knowledge, Yao Ming is not a being made of fire, nor is he a listener, but we could be wrong!)----------------------------------------------------- Find Jack on Twitter or his Website Find John on Twitter or his Website GET OUR READING LIST! Shop Aggadah Try It Books Buy Marti's Shirts! Intro and outro music ‘Skin and Bones' composed by Yoshie Fruchter and performed by Pitom, on Tzadik records

While you may not relish your walk up five flights of stairs six times a day, think of it as a pre-Huangshan hike training ground. Or the third stage of your triathlon-esque commute home. The way to stairmaster-free nice buttocks. After all, the elevator-less buildings of China were the breeding ground for the likes of Yao Ming and Liu Xiang. So, lift those knees, and get buzzed up to the fifth floor, and listen to this ChinesePod lesson on going upstairs. Episode link: https://www.chinesepod.com/0990

In this episode, our panel discusses NBA hot topics and debates. They question Joel Embiid and Giannis Antetokounmpo's rankings among the league's best, while praising Anthony Davis. They speculate on Russell Westbrook joining the Denver Nuggets and the Golden State Warriors' interest in Lauri Markkanen. The Lakers' trade for Russell Westbrook's impact on Kawhi Leonard is debated, along with Kevin Durant's departure from the Thunder in 2016. The panel predicts the next MVP and reflects on rookies who made All-Star teams like Yao Ming. They also analyze the Western Conference top seeds and share thoughts on the Wizards, Kings, Rockets' future, and Charlotte's playoff prospects versus the Pacers' certainty. Join us for insightful NBA discussions and analysis! Welcome to Players Choice Open Gym, the ultimate NBA debate show where fans take center stage to discuss, argue, and celebrate all things basketball! If you're a passionate basketball enthusiast, a die-hard NBA fan, or someone who lives and breathes hoops, you're about to enter a basketball haven like no other. Join us every week for a live, interactive experience that brings you closer to the game, invites you to share your opinions, and lets you be part of the NBA conversation.

The Canada drought continues as the Panthers take game 7 and spoil Connor McDavid and the Edmonton Oiler's comeback. Plus: - Caitlin Clark seems to be a lock for the WNBA All Star team that will face Team USA - The female Yao Ming, and she's only 17?! - NCAA is going to screw up March Madness pretty soon - JJ Redick trolled by FS1 - A real life Pittsburgh Pirate - EA Sports' Top 25 toughest places to play - Hallmark and the Chiefs teaming up for a Christmas movie - Nick Bienz is our new favorite golfer 00:00:00 Introduction 00:12:11 The Stanley Cup is staying in America 00:33:38 NHL Draft at The Sphere 00:41:18 Hawk Tuah Admission 00:44:54 Caitlin Clark and the WNBA All-Stars vs. Team USA 00:57:00 The 17 year old female Yao Ming 01:04:11 JJ Redick is the next Lakers Head Coach 01:14:14 NCAA Expanding March Madness, Lou Holtz 01:29:12 EA Sports' Top 25 Toughest Places to Play 01:35:43 The Chiefs Hallmark Movie 01:38:19 Real Life Pittsburgh Pirate 01:42:16 Nick Bienz is our new favorite golfer Be sure to check out friends of the show: In the Clutch (intheclutch.com/CRAFTBREWED) is your one stop shop for all things sports. With all of your favorite teams and players from the MLS, MLB and more and classic tees from yesteryear and beyond. Get 10% off your order with the code: CRAFTBREWED Kong Beer Bong (craftbrewedsports.com/beerbong) will make sure you are the life of the party. Keep your beer cold in this koozie that converts to a beer bong in an instant. Order yours today. Beer Drop (craftbrewedsports.com/beerdrop) ships award winning craft beer directly to your doorstep. Sign up for a monthly plan, or shop all of the beers available at Beer Drop and get them shipped to you at a $7.99 flat rate.  Morning Recovery (craftbrewedsports.com/hangover) guarantees that you'll wake up after a night of drinking more ready to take on your day. Use the code SPORTS at checkout for 20% off your non-subscription order. Dugout Mugs (dugoutmugs.com/craft) for one of a kind beer mugs and openers. Use our link for 15% off your entire order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In another edition of STORY MODE, Metta World Peace, a 17-year NBA veteran and champion, shares untold stories of legendary Michael Jordan summer runs with LeBron, playing with God Shammgod in high school, and the AAU Team Riverside Hawks. We hear some crazy stories about his time on the Bulls when he worked at Circuit City and drank Henny at halftime. Finally, Metta talks about the effects of "Malice in the Palace", playing with Yao Ming, and his relationship with Larry Bird and Kobe Bryant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Injuries for professional basketball players are a very common occurrence. What isn't common, however is having to endure an NBA final season - without a California-based basketball team represented. It's time to find out what three orthopedic surgeons from the San Francisco area think of both of these phenomenon and more inside this episode of The 6 to 8 Weeks Podcast... Connect with The 6-8 Weeks Podcast: There's a LOT of detail included in this program. Do you want to share YOUR perspective about it? Connect with The 6-8 Weeks Podcast Now! Subscribe to, Like and Share The 6-8 Weeks Podcast Everywhere:               The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The 6-8 Weeks Podcast: You'll get the answers to these questions and more inside this episode of The 6 to 8 Weeks Podcast! 1. **Understanding Injuries:** - What is the difference between a knee strain and a knee sprain, and how do these injuries impact an athlete's performance and risk for long-term damage? 2. **Management and Decision Making:** - How should teams balance the immediate need to win games with the long-term health of players, particularly when dealing with star athletes like Luka Doncic? 3. **Effectiveness of Treatments:** - What role do taping techniques play in managing knee injuries in athletes, and how much of their effect is structural versus placebo? 4. **Comparative Injuries:** - Compare the severity and recovery process for different types of calf injuries with other common sports injuries like hamstring strains. 5. **Use of Diagnostics:** - How useful are MRIs and ultrasounds in diagnosing and managing sports-related injuries, and should they be used routinely for all athlete injuries? 6. **Injury Recurrence:** - Why do hamstring injuries often lead to other injuries later in the season? What measures can teams take to prevent this cascade of injuries? 7. **Age and Performance:** - Discuss the risks and benefits of relying on older athletes with high wear and tear like LeBron James versus younger athletes with significant injury histories like Kevin Durant. 8. **Predicting Outcomes:** - How can sports medicine better use the data from diagnostic tools to predict recovery times and outcomes for athletes? 9. **Epidemiology of Injuries:** - Based on the discussion around Yao Ming, Kevin Durant, and LeBron James, what role does an athlete's height and body type play in the types of injuries they are likely to encounter? 10. **Team Strategies and Player Health:** - Given the Warriors' scenario regarding older athletes, what health strategies could the team employ next season to potentially enhance performance and reduce injuries? Timestamps from This Episode of The 6-8 Weeks Podcast: 00:00 Knee injuries can range from minor tweaks to ligament tears, with implications for the player's performance and long-term health. The severity of the injury and its impact on stability and pain level will determine the player's ability to continue playing and the potential risks of aggravating the injury. This presents a dilemma for the team in balancing the desire to win with the player's long-term well-being. 03:51 Calf strain affects muscle-tendon injuries, hindering movement. 07:32 MRI or ultrasound can aid athlete diagnosis. 10:07 Hamstring cramps can usually resolve with stretching, hydration, and rest. More severe injuries may result in significant pain, with potential for muscle or tendon tears. Tendon tears may cause bruising, a pop sensation, and a palpable defect in the muscle or tendon. 13:12 Warriors weigh impact of young vs. older players 16:14 Disappointed by lack of California teams in playoffs, hopeful for Knicks to win finals. Connect with the Hosts of The 6-8 Weeks Podcast: It's never been easier to connect with the hosts of The 6-8 Weeks Podcast.

Steve Shenbaum is the founder of Game On Nation, a nationally recognized communication firm that employs game dynamics and improvisation to teach high-performance teamwork as well as communication, story-telling, public-speaking and presentation skills. Game On Nation provides authentic and down-to-earth courses, keynotes, and custom training programs that are widely accessible and extremely successful. For over 27 years, Steve and his company have helped people at the highest level of every sphere in the country, including leaders at Fortune 100 companies, college and professional sports teams, all branches of the military, NASA, and the U.S. House of Representatives. Steve gained notoriety for his early acting career, with featured roles in popular comedy films and shows such as Space Jam, Will & Grace, and American Pie 2. He understands the immense power of positive humor, and his professional success allows access to high-level audiences and clients. Notable clients Steve has worked with include Yao Ming, Dale Earnhardt Jr., Carmelo Anthony, Sydney Crosby, Abby Wambach, and the U.S. Women's National Soccer Team, to name a few. One of those notable clients, Alex Smith, the #1 NFL draft pick in 2005, shared this testimonial: "Steve has had a major impact on my career by giving me tangible techniques to improve my communication, leadership, and overall development both on and off the field. He's also an incredible encourager and one of the funniest people I know.” Steve's authenticity and knowledge of team building and experiential learning have not gone unnoticed; he created and oversaw the communication, leadership, and media training program at IMG Academy from 2003-2012. He aims to help human-resource executives, learning and development experts, young professionals, and emerging leaders and coaches looking to infuse positive humor, substance and authenticity into their message—or simply anyone who loves Ted Lasso or Mr. Rogers, as they would dig Steve's vibe of kindness, empathy, and engagement. Mission Statement and Workplace Culture Michael D. Levitt and Steve Shenbaum discussed the importance of organizations understanding and aligning on their mission statements and the behaviors that embody them. Steve emphasized the need to go beyond the mission statement, engage with team members, and agree on behaviors that reflect the mission. He also highlighted the value of asking deeper questions and doing the necessary work to understand and address underlying issues. Michael agreed, noting the importance of preventative care over reactive measures, and the necessity of having difficult conversations about workplace culture. He shared an example of an abrupt departure from an organization, suggesting that such incidents could be prevented with better understanding and alignment. Communication and Expectation Setting in Workplace Michael and Steve discussed the importance of communication and expectation setting in the workplace. They identified a communication issue where employees felt unheard or misunderstood by management, which could have been prevented by open dialogue. They also highlighted the role of leadership in effectively delegating tasks and checking in on the workload of their employees. Additionally, they emphasized the need to establish clear expectations for employees, such as work hours and communication protocols, to avoid misalignment and ensure accountability. Learning and Management Styles in the Workplace Steve and Michael discussed the importance of understanding individual learning and management styles within the workplace. Steve emphasized the need for individuals to recognize what works for them and what doesn't, and the role of leadership in supporting their team. Michael noted that different generations may require different management styles. They also discussed the success of Steve's business, which is not niche in terms of audience, but is niche in terms of its delivery style, specifically focusing on presentation skills. Improvisation for Team Building Steve Shenbaum discussed the focus of his team on presentation and teamwork skills, using improvisation as a tool. He highlighted the importance of finding common ground to bring out people's talents and learning styles in a positive way. Steve also stressed the need to do challenging things together in a safe environment, and how improvisation can help create a strong bond. He emphasized the importance of communicating and trusting each other, and celebrating small wins. Michael D. Levitt shared his personal experience with a team building exercise that revealed similarities between him and a colleague who had a different perception of him, which Steve used to highlight the importance of focusing on behaviors rather than labels. Workplace Culture and Productivity Steve Shenbaum and Michael D. Levitt discussed the importance of workplace culture and productivity. Steve suggested a number of changes to enhance work processes, including adjusting meeting schedules, eliminating lunch and learns, and treating employees with respect. He shared insights from FC Cincinnati's general manager, who attributed their success to simple practices like sharing meals and acknowledging people's birthdays. Steve also mentioned that his company, Game On Nation, provides resources to improve presentation and communication skills.

As one of the rare players to come straight from high school into the NBA and be named Rookie Of The Year, there is no denying Amar'e Stoudemire's illustrious career. The retired NBA Big Man joined Boardroom's Eddie Gonzalez for a candid conversation to discuss his recent, long awaited jersey retirement after a call from Matt Ishbia and the Phoenix Suns, the many ways that the NBA shaped him from such a young age and more. Stoudemire explains how getting into the league at a young age gave him a desire to navigate life in the right ways, notably by surrounding himself with NBA veterans and retired players who could keep him in line. He also discusses the impact that playing alongside Steve Nash had on him and how Steve never failed to show up for Stoudemire no matter the setting. Gonzalez and Stoudemire also discuss how his inevitable election into the NBA Hall Of Fame is abound and how another Hall-Of-Famer, Kobe Bryant's work ethic was pivotal in showcasing what it takes to be a champion. Lastly, the two discuss his time with the New York Knicks and his iconic parties and red wine baths that led to the creation of his newer venture and passion, Stoudemire Wines.

4/2/24 - Hour 1 Guest host Jim Jackson and the guys recap the epic Elite 8 rematch between Caitlin Clark's Iowa Hawkeyes vs Angel Reese and LSU. Turner Sports' play-by-play announcer Brian Anderson and Jim discuss the Dodgers-Giants heated rivalry and Mookie Betts' hot start to the season, which teams could represent the AL in the World Series, what Joel Embiid's return means for the 76ers' title hopes, and how the NBA playoff picture could shake out for the Lakers, Warriors, Thunder and other teams. Jim breaks down the men's NCAA Tournament Final Four matchups and says how Purdue's 7'4” center Zach Edey compares to former NBA big man Yao Ming. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane Battier joins the Draymond Green Show to discuss why he picked Duke over Michigan State, what it was like playing with Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady's hidden greatness, the LeBron James and Dwyane Wade 'Heatles', what made Kobe Bryant different from everyone else, being ahead of analytics in basketball, and more.  0:00 Start 4:00 Izzo stories 13:00 Yao Ming 19:00 Tracy McGrady 27:00 LeBron James 31:00 Kobe Bryant 43:00 Analytics Produced by: Jackson Safon #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Shane Battier joins the Draymond Green Show to discuss why he picked Duke over Michigan State, what it was like playing with Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady's hidden greatness, the LeBron James and Dwyane Wade 'Heatles', what made Kobe Bryant different from everyone else, being ahead of analytics in basketball, and more.  0:00 Start 4:00 Izzo stories 13:00 Yao Ming 19:00 Tracy McGrady 27:00 LeBron James 31:00 Kobe Bryant 43:00 Analytics Produced by: Jackson Safon #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ric chooses from a list of five injury-derailed stars -- Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady, Brandon Roy, Grant Hill and Derrick Rose -- the one who would've been the best and discusses Golden State Warriors' coach Steve Kerr's contention that defense has been legislated out of the NBA.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/bucher-and-friends. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The far more censored version of the award-winning and unparalleled "A Mediocre Time with Tom and Dan." - "A Corporate Time" is a daily companion and terrestrial radio show heard nationally on iHeartRadio. It's silly.

In this episode, the dogs return to a previous discussion on parenting and control (5:00). Mike looks for Yao Ming in the California Redwoods (1:49), Connor reminds us just how useful childhood confirmation class was (17:35), and Rob jumps ship (14:57) twice (26:49). Quotes: “They (children) have this compass inside of them that I can’t read for them; I have to love them into reading it themselves and God will guide them.” (Connor, 8:20) “As a parent, your desire is to educate their freedom.” (Mike, 10:40) “I was a martyr for the truth.” (Connor, 11:35) “I'm the perfection of virtue.” (Rob, 14:52) “What we are talking about is this long slow road toward wholeness and integrity, which is experiencing God's love and our own goodness in his eyes even in the midst of our imperfections.” (Connor, 21:00) “As parents you do have to form your children.” (Mike, 23:20) “Everyone as a free person is responsible for their own life, including your child.” (Connor, 24:30) “Jesus is never controlling anyone.” (Connor, 29:36) “Only God can save us. Real peace and real justice comes from total surrender.” (Connor, 30:30) “We enter into God's will in the measure that we surrender a perceived result.” (Connor, 32:40) “Life, when you abandon yourself to it, is not the prosperity gospel.” (Mike, 35:27) “What my dad and my mom mirrored for me, was reality, which is God.” (Mike, 36:20) Media Mentions: Fr. Jacques Philippe’s Priestly Fatherhood: Treasure in Earthen Vessels 3DN S11 E34- Loggerheads (Part 1) 3DN S11 E35- Loggerheads (Part 2) The Martian (2015) Jeremiah 31: 29- 30 “The parents ate unripe grapes…” Jesus Calms the Storm (Matthew 8:23- 27, Mark 4:35-41, Luke 8:22-25) C.S. Lewis’ The Great Divorce Flannery O’Connor’s Revelation (pg. 458 “…even their virtues were being burned away.”) References: FOCUS Pender, Nebraska Illiopolis, Illinois Redwood National Park Shaquille O’Neal New Work Wednesday Benedict Arnold Pelagianism Edith Stein Gifts of the Holy Spirit (Catechism 1831) Fruits of the Holy Spirit (Catechism 1832) United States Army Jumpmaster School Dr. Jordan B. Peterson Shout- Outs: Mike Guenther “The boys around here could use some Three Dogs North.” Bliese and Mrs. Bliese Yao Ming Follow us on instagram @threedogsnorth Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com

In this episode, the dogs return to a previous discussion on parenting and control (5:00). Mike looks for Yao Ming in the California Redwoods (1:49), Connor reminds us just how useful childhood confirmation class was (17:35), and Rob jumps ship (14:57) twice (26:49). Quotes: “They (children) have this compass inside of them that I can't read for them; I have to love them into reading it themselves and God will guide them.” (Connor, 8:20) “As a parent, your desire is to educate their freedom.” (Mike, 10:40) “I was a martyr for the truth.” (Connor, 11:35) “I'm the perfection of virtue.” (Rob, 14:52) “What we are talking about is this long slow road toward wholeness and integrity, which is experiencing God's love and our own goodness in his eyes even in the midst of our imperfections.” (Connor, 21:00) “As parents you do have to form your children.” (Mike, 23:20) “Everyone as a free person is responsible for their own life, including your child.” (Connor, 24:30) "Jesus is never controlling anyone." (Connor, 29:36) “Only God can save us. Real peace and real justice comes from total surrender.” (Connor, 30:30) “We enter into God's will in the measure that we surrender a perceived result.” (Connor, 32:40) “Life, when you abandon yourself to it, is not the prosperity gospel.” (Mike, 35:27) “What my dad and my mom mirrored for me, was reality, which is God.” (Mike, 36:20) Media Mentions: Fr. Jacques Philippe's Priestly Fatherhood: Treasure in Earthen Vessels3DN S11 E34- Loggerheads (Part 1)3DN S11 E35- Loggerheads (Part 2)The Martian (2015)Jeremiah 31: 29- 30 "The parents ate unripe grapes..."Jesus Calms the Storm (Matthew 8:23- 27, Mark 4:35-41, Luke 8:22-25)C.S. Lewis' The Great DivorceFlannery O'Connor's Revelation (pg. 458 "...even their virtues were being burned away.") References: FOCUSPender, NebraskaIlliopolis, IllinoisRedwood National ParkShaquille O'NealNew Work WednesdayBenedict ArnoldPelagianismEdith SteinGifts of the Holy Spirit (Catechism 1831)Fruits of the Holy Spirit (Catechism 1832)United States Army Jumpmaster SchoolDr. Jordan B. Peterson Shout- Outs: Mike Guenther "The boys around here could use some Three Dogs North."Bliese and Mrs. BlieseYao Ming Follow us on instagram @threedogsnorth Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com

Brandon Marshall, Ashley Nicole Moss and Corey Holmes discuss former NFL Offensive Lineman and The Blind Side star Michael Oher's lawsuit against the Tuohy family. Plus, several stars in the NFL found new homes yesterday and the 76ers might have big problems on their hands after Joel Embiid sends cryptic message on social media.

On today's episode of The Pat Bev Podcast with Rone, we welcome on the legend himself, Tracy McGrady, to the show to talk about his legacy in a world where you are only judged by your rings, his rise in Toronto alongside his cousin Vince Carter, whether or not he would have demanded a trade during his career given the power players have today, Yao Ming, owners who do not care about winning let alone basketball, and much more. T-Mac also puts Pat and Rone onto the Ones Basketball League, also known as The OBL. SHOWTIME Basketball announces BONDED BY BALL: INSIDE THE OBL, a four-part documentary series chronicling the inaugural season of the Ones Basketball League (OBL). All four episodes of the series premiere consecutively on SHOWTIME EXTREME starting at 10 p.m. ET/PT on Friday, July 28, and all episodes will be available on demand and on streaming for Paramount+ with SHOWTIME subscribers on the day of premiere. Before the interview, Pat and Rone give their thoughts and prayers to Bronny James and the entire James family after Bronny's recent medical scare. Pat gives us an update of his time in Europe, is on the biggest losing streak in his life, and cannot stop jumping off of 17 foot high boats. SUBSCRIBE TO THE POD Ads: -- New Amsterdam Vodka - Find your wins with New Amsterdam Vodka -- Express - Get 10% off in addition to the deals Express already has with code PATBEV at express.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/patbevpod