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I have been anticipating having the opportunity to speak with Carl Amari on an episode of Unstoppable Mindset for several months. Carl and I share a passion for vintage radio programs sometimes called “old time radio shows”. Carl heard his first broadcast in 1975 when he heard Cary Grant staring in a program from the 20-year long series entitled “Suspense”. That program left the air in 1962, but like other shows, some radio stations kept it alive later.   Carl's interest in vintage programs goes far beyond the over 100,000 transcription master's he has amassed. He has also created some programs of his own. For example, in 2002 Carl asked for and received the rights to recreate the television show, “The Twilight Zone” for a radio audience. He used many famous actors while recreating the series. He talks about what he did and how he brought “The Twilight Zone” to life on the radio.   He also has dramatized five versions of the bible. His most well-known work is “The Word Of Promise Bible”. When I first purchased that bible from Audible, I had no idea that Carl was its creator.   Carl Amari is quite a creative guy making movies, collecting and producing radio programs and he even hosts podcasts.   I hope you have as much fun listening to this episode as I did in creating it with Carl. We definitely will have him back as he has many more stories to tell.       About the Guest:   Carl Amari has been licensing classic radio shows from the owners and estates since 1990.  He has amassed a library of 100,000+ master recordings.  Amari broadcasts these golden-age of radio shows on his 5-hour radio series, Hollywood 360, heard on 100+ radio stations coast-to-coast each week.  Amari is also the Host/Producer of The WGN Radio Theatre heard each weekend on legendary Chicago radio station, WGN AM 720. Amari is the founder and curator of The Classic Radio Club.  Each month Amari selects the best-of-the-best from his classic radio library to send to members.   Amari is also a published author.  In 1996, he began writing a series of books about classic radio for The Smithsonian Institute.  More recently, he teamed with fellow classic radio expert, Martin Grams, to co-write the best-selling coffee-table cook “The Top 100 Classic Radio Shows” (available at Amazon).  Each bi-monthly, Amari writes a classic radio-themed column titled “Good Old Days on the Radio” for the nostalgia publication Good Old Days Magazine.   In 2002, Amari licensed the intellectual property, The Twilight Zone, from CBS and The Rod Serling estate to create and produce The Twilight Zone Radio Dramas, which are fully dramatized audio adaptations based on Rod Serling's Emmy-Award winning TV series.  Hosted by prolific actor Stacy Keach, each hour-long radio drama features a Hollywood celebrity in the title role.  The Twilight Zone Radio Dramas has won numerous awards of excellence including The Audie Award, AFTRA's American Scene Award and the XM Nation Award for Best Radio Drama on XM.  The Twilight Zone Radio Dramas are broadcast coast-to-coast each week on nearly 100 radio stations.    In 2007, Amari parlayed his experience and passion for radio theatre and love for the Bible into the creation of the award-winning Word of Promise celebrity-voiced, dramatized audio Bible published by Christian giant Thomas Nelson, Inc.  The New Testament won 2008's highest Evangelical award, The Christian Book of the Year.  The Word of Promise stars Jim Caviezel (“The Passion of the Christ”) reprising his film role as Jesus, with Michael York, Terence Stamp, Lou Gossett, Jr., Marisa Tomei, Lou Diamond Phillips, Ernie Hudson, Kimberly-Williams Paisley and many other celebrities voicing roles of the New Testament.  In 2008, Amari produced The Word of Promise Old Testament featuring more than 400 actors including: Jon Voight, Gary Sinise, Richard Dreyfuss, Max von Sydow, Malcolm McDowell, Joan Allen, John Rhys-Davies, Sean Astin, Marcia Gay Harden and Jesse McCartney. The Old Testament was combined with the New Testament and released as The Word of Promise Complete audio Bible in 2009 and has won numerous awards, including three Audie awards.  The Word of Promise has become the #1 selling audio Bible of all time.  In 2009, Amari produced The Truth & Life Dramatized Audio Bible: New Testament, a Catholic Bible featuring Neal McDonough, John Rhys-Davies, Malcolm McDowell, Kristen Bell, Blair Underwood, Julia Ormond, Brian Cox, Sean Astin and other celebrities.  It was released by Zondervan Corporation, the largest religious publisher in the world.  Amari secured an Imprimatur from The Vatican and a foreword by Pope Benedict XVI for The Truth & Life Dramatized Audio Bible: New Testament, which has become the #1 selling Catholic audio Bible in the world.  In 2016, Amari produced The Breathe Audio Bible for Christian Publisher Tyndale House.  Celebrities voicing roles include Ashley Judd, Josh Lucas, Kevin Sorbo, Hill Harper, John Rhys-Davies and Corbin Bleu.  Amari currently produces a weekly radio series based on this audio Bible called The Breathe Radio Theatre hosted by Kevin Sorbo, heard on Christian radio stations coast-to-coast.    In 2000, Amari produced the feature film Madison starring Jim Caviezel, Bruce Dern, Jake Lloyd, Mary McCormack and John Mellencamp.  In 2001, Madison was invited by Robert Redford to be the opening film at Redford's prestigious Sundance Film Festival.  Madison was later released worldwide by MGM.  Amari also spends his time creating television series for Warner Brothers and Gulfstream Pictures.  Amari's latest film projects include producing, Wireman, starring Scott Eastwood and Andy Garcia, a true-story set in 1978 Chicago and Crossed, a Zombie Post-Apocalyptic story by The Boys creator Garth Ennis.  Both films will be released in 2025.   Amari's company was twice named to the INC. 500 list of fastest growing privately-held companies.  He was selected as one of Chicago's Very Own by Tribune Broadcasting and his business accomplishments have been highlighted in The Wall Street Journal, The Chicago Sun-Times, The Chicago Tribune, Variety, INC. 500, The Associated Press, Entertainment Weekly, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times and The New York Post. Ways to connect Carl:   https://www.hollywood360radio.com/   https://classicradioclub.com/   https://ultimateclassicradio.com/   You can also provide my email address: Carl@ClassicRadioClub.com   About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, hello to you all, wherever you may be, welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset. Oh, it's always good to have an unstoppable mindset. I am really very joy today. I'm really happy because I get to have an hour to chat with someone who I've admired for a while, although I haven't told him that but he, I first heard him on a show. Well, he did a show called Yeah, on a program called yesterday USA, which is a program that plays old radio shows on now two different networks. They have a red network and a blue network, so they have emulated NBC, and they're on 24 hours a day, doing a lot of old radio stuff. And I've been collecting radio shows for a long time, although our guest, Carl has has done, in a broad sense, a lot more than I have. But anyway, he collects shows. He does a lot with master copies of radio shows, and I don't, don't have that many masters, but he's also done some other things. For example, in 2002 he acquired the rights from CBS and the Rod Serling estate to create Twilight Zone radio, and he is created versions for radio of all of the Twilight Zone broadcasts. The other thing that he did that I didn't realize until I got his bio, is that he created something else that I purchased from Audible, probably in 2008 or 2009 the Word of Promise Bible, where he got a number of entertainers and and special people and Celebrities like Michael York and others to create the Bible, and it's only 98 hours long. So you know, it takes a little while to read, but still, it's worth doing. So I would like to introduce you all to Carl Amari and Carl, welcome to unstoppable mindset. Michael,   Carl Amari ** 03:14 thank you so much for having me. It's a real honor. Thanks so much.   Michael Hingson ** 03:19 Well, the honor is, is mine as well. I really am glad that that you're here and we do get to talk about radio and all sorts of whatever comes along. Well, I want to start this way. Tell me about kind of the early Carl, growing up and all that well for an opening, yeah. Gosh,   Carl Amari ** 03:35 that was a long time ago, but when I was 12 years old in 1975 I heard my first classic radio show. It was an episode of suspense, and it starred Cary Grant in a show called on a country road. Yeah, and I was at a sleepover at my friend's house, and we were kind of rowdy, as as 12 year olds will be. And his father had this show, I think it was on an eight track tape or a cassette tape, and he played it, and it was the first time I ever experienced theater of the mind. And I, you know, grew up watching Batman and the Twilight Zone and Wild Wild West, and I had never had anything, you know, that that really, really just blew me away, like hearing a radio drama where you hear the the actors performing, and you see the, you know, they have the sound effects and the music, and it creates this movie in your mind. And I was at a 12 as 12 years old. I was just completely just, you know, flabbergasted, and I wanted to learn all I could about classic radio and and so I spent, really my entire career, the last 40 plus years, licensing and putting out these radio shows, licensing from. The estates and putting them out on radio and on CD and digital download and so forth.   Michael Hingson ** 05:06 Cool. Yeah, I remember on a country road the first show. Well, I remember a few times my parents were listening to radio in the early 50s, and I think one of the first ones I heard was Dick Tracy, but I don't even remember that, but I think it was 1957 in October or so. I was listening to the radio, and all of a sudden I heard, and one of my maybe it was 58 but anyway, one of my favorite songs at the time was Tom Dooley by the Kingston Trio, and this announcement came up that on suspense this Sunday would be the story of Tom Dooley. And I went, Oh, that's Oh, right, right. Listen to that. And I did, and I was hooked for the very same reasons that you were radio really presents you the opportunity to picture things in in your own mind, in a sense, the way you want. And what they do in the radio production is get actors who can draw you in, but the whole idea is for you to picture it in your own mind. So I did it with Tom Dooley, and I got hooked. And I was listening to suspense and yours truly Johnny dollar ever since that day. And then also Gun Smoke and Have Gun Will Travel came along, and then that was fun.   Carl Amari ** 06:23 Yeah, those were those shows that you just mentioned. They were on still in the 50s. Because when you think of the golden age of radio, it was really the 30, late 30s all the way to the very early 50s, golden age of radio. But there were hangers on. There was Johnny dollar, and, like you said, suspense. And you know, some of these programs that were still on fiber, McGee and Molly, even, you know, Jack Benny, were still on during the 50s. And then, of course, most of the shows made the transition to the visual medium of television. But the eyes, I still say, you know, today, listening to these radio shows is more fun, and I think they're more impactful than the television versions. Oh,   Michael Hingson ** 07:07 I think so by any standard. I think that's true. And gun Well, let's see. Suspense went into, I think 1962 Johnny dollar did, and suspense and Gunsmoke and Have Gun Will Travel. Started on television, actually, but then transitioned to radio. There were a few shows, a few of the plots that actually were on both, yes, but John Danner played Paladin on the radio, and that was fun. And then, of course, Gunsmoke as well. So they, they, they all went into the 60s, which was kind of kind of cool, yeah.   Carl Amari ** 07:43 And usually they had, you know, sometimes they had the same cast, and other times a completely different cast, like with Gunsmoke, you know, William Conrad was Marshall Matt Dillon on on radio. And, of course, people remember him as canon on television, also Nero Wolf on television. But William Conrad, who was probably in more radio shows than anyone I can think of. Yeah, was, was Marshall, Matt Dillon, and then on on television, of course, James Arness, so yeah, and but then, you know, the Jack Benny Program, there was the same cast, you know, the very same people that were on radio, moved to television, same with Red Skelton and many of the shows, but other times, completely different cast.   Michael Hingson ** 08:22 I was watching this morning when I woke up, me too. Let's see, was it me too? Yeah, was me TV? They're great and and they had Jack Benny on at 430 in the morning. I just happened to wake up and I turned it on. There's Benny season five, where he took the beavers to county fair. Of course, the Beavers are fun. And I've actually, I've actually had the opportunity to meet Beverly Washburn, which was, oh, sure,   Carl Amari ** 08:52 sure. Oh man, Jack Benny, probably the high water mark of comedy. You know, when you talk about, you know, a guy that was on, he started in vaudeville, you know, and then he had his own radio show, his own TV show was in movies, and probably the most successful. And when you think about Seinfeld, right, when you think about the series, the television series Seinfeld, there's so many correlations between Seinfeld and the Jack Benny Program, you know Seinfeld. It was, was a comedian, you know Jerry Seinfeld, playing himself. He had this cast of Looney characters all around him. Same thing with the Jack Benny show. It was Jack Benny with a cast of Looney characters. And so it's probably was an homage, you know, to to Jack Benny. And   Michael Hingson ** 09:39 I, I'm, think you're right. I think in a lot of ways, that probably absolutely was the case. And you know, there are so many radio shows that that, in one way or another, have have influenced TV. And I think people don't necessarily recognize that, but it's true, how much, yeah, radio really set the stage for so many things. Yeah, I think the later suspenses, in a sense, were a lot better than some of the earlier ones, because they really were more poignant. Some were more science fiction, but they really were more suspenseful than than some of the early ones, but they were all fun.   Carl Amari ** 10:13 Oh gosh, suspense that's now you're talking about, I think the best series of all time, you know, because it was about almost 1000 episodes. It lasted from 42 to, I believe, 62 or 63 and and it had, for a time, there was a lot of true stories on suspense when Elliot Lewis took over. But yeah, you're right. It had the best actors, the best writers, the best production values. So suspense to this day. You know, I think is, of all the shows was, was one of the best, if not the best.   Michael Hingson ** 10:45 Oh, I agree. I can't argue with that at all. And did so many things. And then for at least a summer, they had hour long suspenses, but mostly it was a half hour or Yes, later was 25 minutes plus a newscast, right,   Carl Amari ** 10:59 right, right? It didn't seem to work in the hour long format. They only did a handful of those, and they went back right back to the half hour once a week, you know. But, yeah, no suspense, one of my favorites for sure.   Michael Hingson ** 11:13 Oh, yeah. Well, and it's hard to argue with that. It's so much fun to do all of these. And you know, on other shows in radio, in a sense, tried to emulate it. I mean, escape did it for seven years, but it still wasn't suspense, right,   Carl Amari ** 11:27 right. Closest thing to suspense was escape, but it was never and I think because you know, as as you know Michael, but maybe some of your listeners don't realize this, these actors, these big actors, Humphrey Bogard and chair, you know, James Stewart and Cary Grant, they were, they were studio, they were under a studio contract. So they weren't like today, where they were freelance. So when, like, let's say, Jimmy Stewart was being paid, I'll just make up a number $5,000 a week to be under contract to make movies when he wasn't making a movie, they wanted to make money on this actor, so they would loan him out to radio. And these actors were on suspense, like on a routine basis, you had movie stars every week appearing on suspense, the biggest movie stars on the planet. So and you would think, well, how could they afford these movie stars? Well, because the studios wanted to make money when their actors weren't working, right?   Michael Hingson ** 12:23 And and did, and people really appreciate it. I mean, Jess Stewart, yeah, even some of the actors from radio, like fiber began, Molly, yeah, on a suspense. And they were, that was a great that was a great show. But, oh yeah,   Carl Amari ** 12:38 back, I think it was back, right? Yeah, yeah, which   Michael Hingson ** 12:41 was really cool. Well, you license a lot of shows from, from people tell me more about that. That must be interesting and fascinating to try to negotiate and actually work out. Well,   Carl Amari ** 12:52 early on, when I was in college, you know, as a communications major, and I learned very early on that these show, a lot of these shows are, copyrighted so and because I was actually sent a cease and desist letter on a college station just playing a show. And so that was, and it was from Mel blanks company, man of 1000 voices. And he his son, Noel, helped me learn, you know, taught me that, hey, you know, these shows are were created by, you know, the the estates, you know, the that were still around Jack Benny and, you know, CBS owns a ton of stuff and different, you know, entities that own these shows and and he helped, and he introduced me to a lot of people, including Jerry Lewis and Milton Burrell and and so I spent My early career in my 20s, flying back and forth to LA and New York and licensing these shows from like Irving Brecher, who created the life of Riley and the Jack Benny estate. And, you know, golden books at the time, owned the Lone Ranger and so licensing that and Warner Brothers, you know, DC for Batman and so, and Superman, I mean, which had Batman on it, but Superman, I licensed those. And, you know, MCA universal for dragnet and the six shooter and so on and on and on and and I spent, as I say, my early career licensing. I now have over 100,000 shows under license, and mostly from Master transcriptions, because I only like to collect from the master source, because we put them out through a club, the classic Radio Club, and I air them on my I have a national radio show called Hollywood 360 we air them every week, five shows every week on the network. There's over 100 stations, including Armed Forces Radio and and so I want the quality to be impeccable. I don't want dubs of dubs or, you know, cracks and pops. And I really want to give people what it sounded like back then when they aired   Michael Hingson ** 14:54 and well. And you you can sort of do that, but the sound is probably even better today. With the audio equipment that people have access to, yeah, the sound is even better than it was. But I hear what you're saying, and it's cool to listen to those, and they're not stereo. Oh, that would be interesting to to try to reprocess and make that happen, but the audio is incredible. Yeah,   Carl Amari ** 15:16 yeah, that's kind of what our, you know, our trademark is, Michael is, you know, if you're listening to Hollywood 360 which, as I say, is on a lot of stations across the country, when you listen to that show, and in every hour, we play a we play a show, you know you're going to get something that sounds just, is like we're talking right now. You know that's that's important to me. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 15:37 well, and I can appreciate that, and it makes perfect sense that it is because we should really preserve the the programs, and we should do what we can to make them sound as good as we can, and we should really get that high quality. And the high quality is there, yes, just not always what people find, and people are willing to, well, accept less than what they should, yeah,   Carl Amari ** 16:01 well, I, you know, I grew up collecting from where I wherever I could. But then, when I started licensing them, I would get the masters from the, you know, whoever owned them. And then I also have about a half a dozen collectors that only collect on 16 inch disc, which is kind of great. And so if I have, let's say, you know, suspense and and I'll, you know, let's say, you know, because we license that from CBS. But if CBS doesn't have a certain show, but a collector on disc has it, I'll get that from the collector and still pay the royalty the CBS because they own it. But I'll get that, that disc from a collector. And, you know, we, and it's a cost of doing business, but we'll get it transferred and and put it out to the public that way.   Michael Hingson ** 16:46 Typically, what are the discs made of? So   Carl Amari ** 16:49 they're, they're like, uh, they're like a shellac. I mean, they're, they're like, a glass. Some of them are actually glass,   Michael Hingson ** 16:55 yeah, you know, some of the Jack Benny shows were glass, yeah,   Carl Amari ** 16:59 and acetate and things like that. And so I there's one gentleman that's in in Redding, California, Doug Hopkinson, who is just an expert on this, and he does most of the transfers. We recently licensed 41 different series from Frederick zivs estate. And you know, we're talking the entire collection of Boston Blackie bold venture with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall, Philo Vance, with Jackson Beck, Mr. District Attorney, and I was a communist for the FBI. And Doug is actually doing they're all on they're all zivs Personal discs. Frederick Ziv, he had them. There's 10,000 more than 10,000 discs in a controlled warehouse in Cincinnati, and we are slowly but surely working our way through 10,000 shows. And Doug is doing all those transfers. So he's a busy guy. Does he go there to do it? No, we have him sent. So you do cardboard boxes. Yeah, yeah. To California. And then Doug has two, you know, it's special equipment that you have to use. I mean, it's very, very it's not just a turntable, and it's a special equipment. And then, you know, we get the raw file, you know, we get the, he uses the special needles based on that album, you know, or that disc he has, you know, a whole plethora of needles, and then he tests it, whichever gets the best sound out of there. So, yeah, he's really, he's tops at this. And so we're doing those Troy, we just transferred all the, I was a communist for the FBI with Dana Andrews, yeah, and all the Boston blackies, which is one of my favorites   Michael Hingson ** 18:40 and bold venture. And, yeah, I have those, good man, so I know that it's interesting. You mentioned the needles. So for people who don't know, in order to get a program on one disc, the transcriptions were literally 16 inches. I mean, we're all used to LPS or 12 inch disc, but the radio transcriptions were 16 inch discs, right?   Carl Amari ** 19:05 And that held 15 minutes. And now you needed two discs, yeah? So generally, you needed two discs to give you one show, unless it was one on one side and one on the other side. But a lot of times it was, it was, it was two discs for one show, yeah, and then, and then, on the opposite side, you'd have another show. One   Michael Hingson ** 19:24 of the things that I got the opportunity to do was to collect my dad knew somebody when he worked at Edwards Air Force Base that had a number of 16 inch transcriptions, and I had a turntable. Wasn't great, but it served the purpose for a college kid. And one of the things I discovered was that there were a few recordings that, rather than putting the needle on the outside and the record spins and plays in, you actually start from the inside and go out.   Carl Amari ** 19:56 Yes, I've seen that, yeah, and I'm told we're that way. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 20:00 I'm told that they did that because the the audio quality was actually better. Doing it that way, really? Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know, but that's what I was told, was that the audio quality was even better. Wow,   Carl Amari ** 20:11 yeah. I mean, it's a skill, you know, because with we really have one shot to get these 10, you know, these, these discs and and and we were getting them from, from literally, Frederick zivs Personal. They were, I told, like the first one off the duplication line. When he would, he would bicycle the discs all around the country. We're not using discs that were ever touched by radio stations. In fact, a lot of them, we have to drill out the holes in the middle because they've closed up a little bit. So these have never been played. They're unplayed. His master discs that are unplayed and and if you have the bold venture, you know what we were able to pull off those masters, it's like high fidelity. Mon Oro,   Michael Hingson ** 20:56 yeah. They're as good as it can get. And they do, they sound really great. Well, even the Boston blackies are good. Yeah,   Carl Amari ** 21:02 oh yeah, yeah. I'm excited about that, because that, that's one of my favorite shows Boston.   Michael Hingson ** 21:07 I like Boston Blackie and yeah, and I like, I was a communist for the FBI, and I haven't gotten those yet, but I'm waiting to get Dana Andrews that whole   Carl Amari ** 21:15 they just shipped. So there you should be getting them, Michael. So thank you for that. They'll   Michael Hingson ** 21:20 be they'll be coming, yes, which is pretty cool, but it is so fun to have the opportunity to listen to all these and I really urge people, the easy way is you can go to places like yesterday usa.net, online and listen to a lot of radio programs, but you can go to Carl's website, or when he can tell us how to do it, and you can actually purchase the opportunity to get copies of some of these shows, and they're absolutely fun and worth doing.   Carl Amari ** 21:54 Yeah, thank you, Michael. We are. We have, you know, our radio show has a website. You can learn about our radio show that's that's easy. It's Hollywood. And then 360 so Hollywood, 360 radio.com, that's like my and you can reach me, but there's ways to contact me through there. And then we, I think I mentioned we offer these through a club, which is pretty cool, because what I do every month is I'll comb the library of we have over 100,000 shows, and I'll take, I'll pick 10 shows every month and put them either on five CDs with a booklet, historical booklet, and it's in a nice case. And you get about every 30 days, CD members get a new 10 C 10 show five CD set in the mail, or you can get those same shows via digital download. So if you don't want the CDs, you just want a link sent to you there, they're done that way too. And that's classic radio club.com and all of the information is there at Classic radio club.com and as I say that that we put out only the best quality there, like, the best quality you could possibly get, which,   Michael Hingson ** 23:04 which is so cool, because I have heard some of those programs as you say that they're dubbed or people, for some reason, have the wrong speed. They're not great quality, right? So frustrating. Yeah, there's no need for any of that. And some people, of course, cut out the commercials, not being visionary enough to understand the value of leaving the commercials in, right? And again, they didn't do a very good job of cutting them out.   Carl Amari ** 23:31 No, we leave everything in. Even, you know, it's so interesting to hear cigarette commercials, or, you know, all you know, vitamin commercials, like, you know, you know, ironized yeast presents, lights out. You know, it's fun. It's fun to hear, you know, these commercials. And sometimes, like on the dragnets, when they're talking about Chesterfield, they're like, oh, doctor recommended, you know, and all this.   Michael Hingson ** 23:55 Well, even better than that, I was just thinking the Fatima cigarettes commercials on dragnet. Yeah, research shows, yeah, I wonder where they got that research,   Carl Amari ** 24:07 yeah. Oh my gosh. They were, they were, it was crazy how they would do that. I mean, they got away with it. They did. They did. They did. And, you know, we, even when we air radio shows, we don't cut the commercials unless it's cigarette commercials, because there's an FCC rule that you can't hear cigarette commercials. But like, you know, when we play Jack Benny and there's and there's, you know, Grape Nuts flakes commercials, we leave it in. We want people to hear the Fun, fun of those commercials and things well,   Michael Hingson ** 24:36 and sometimes, of course, like with great nuts flakes commercials, the commercial is part of the program. Yes, it's integrated. Break away. It's all integrated in which makes it so fun. I didn't know that there was an FCC rule that said you can't air any cigarette commercials even for educational purposes.   Carl Amari ** 24:55 Well, it might be for educational purposes. It may be non commercial, but I know on commercial stage. Stations, I can imagine that. Yeah, yeah. And Hollywood, 360 is commercial, you know, we have sponsors like, you know, we have Prevagen is one of our big sponsors, cats, pride, kitty litter, and, you know, they've been with me forever. And, you know, whatever, the Home Depot, Geico, you know, my pillow, these are some of our sponsors. And, and so we're on commercial stations across the country.   Michael Hingson ** 25:21 Yeah, so it makes sense that that you you do it that way, which, yeah, you know, is understandable. But, boy, some of those commercials are the Chesterfield commercials. Accu Ray on Gunsmoke. Yeah?   Carl Amari ** 25:37 A gimmick to get you to buy their cigarettes.   Michael Hingson ** 25:39 Yeah, I bet there was no accuray machine, but, oh, probably not, probably not. It is so funny. Well, you did the Twilight Zone radio programs. What got you started on doing that?   Carl Amari ** 25:53 Well, you know, growing up, I think I mentioned earlier, it was one of my favorite shows, yeah, always mine too, you know. And just watching that I was so blown away by twilight zone as a kid. So then when I got into the licensing of these classic radio shows, and I I was, I guess I was just always really envious of these producers that got to do these radio shows. And I always thought, man, I was. I was born in the wrong decades. You know, I was, I wish I was around back in the 40s and was able to produce suspense or escape or one of these shows. And I thought the show that would work the best, you know, that was on television, that that would work great in the theater of the mind realm, would be twilight zone, because growing up watching, you know, the makeup wasn't that great and the costumes weren't that great. You could see the zippers on the Martians sometimes. And I thought, you know, the writing was so amazing, right? And the stories were so vivid, and it worked for your theater of the mind that you didn't really need the visual with Twilight Zone, especially if you, you know, you have to write them in a way for radio. There's a special technique for writing for radio, obviously. So I, I reached out to to CBS and the rod Sterling estate, and they thought it was cool. And they said, you know, what do one, we'll let, we'll let, we'll take a listen to one, you know. And they sent me the television script for monsters are due on Maple Street. That was the one they sent me. And at the time, I was trying to get Robert Wagner to be the host. I always liked to take the thief and and, and he thought it was interesting, but he passed on it ultimately. And, and then at the same time, I was working with Stacy Keach, senior, Stacy keach's Dad, who had created Tales from the tales of the Texas range Rangers, right? And, and, and so I was at, actually at Jane Seymour's house, because Jane Seymour was married at that time to Stacy's brother, James Keach, and I got invited to a party there. And I got to meet Stacy Keach and and I heard his voice up close, you know, standing next to him, and I was like, this is the guy I gotta get to be the host. And so I started telling him about what I was doing, and he's like, I'd love to be the host of that. And so that was the beginning of a lifelong friendship with Stacy, and he was just incredible on it. And we did one, we did a pilot, monsters are doing Maple Street. And they loved it. And said, go ahead. And that was it. And it was like, in 2002   Michael Hingson ** 28:29 the first one I heard was, if I remember the title, right, a different kind of stopwatch, okay, the one with Blue Diamond Phillips, Blue Diamond Phillips, that was the first one. I think you. You offered that as a, as a sample. Yeah, yes, when I got that was pretty cool. But you   Carl Amari ** 28:43 wouldn't believe Michael, how many whenever I would reach out to an actor like Jason Alexander, I mean, Jay, I remember Jason, when I reached out to him and I said, Hey, I'd like to you to do these. And he was like, Oh, I'd love it. And then he did it, and then he'd call me and say, You got any more of those? Love doing it, you know, because they never get to do this. They, you know, these actors don't get to do radio. And so people like, you know, Lou Diamond Phillips and Luke Perry God rest his soul, and and Michael York and Malcolm McDowell and, you know, Don Johnson and Lou and Luke Luke Gossett Jr, so many of these people that I reached out to, Jane Seymour, another one, they were just they were they couldn't say yes fast enough. They just loved doing radio drama. It was so easy to book these stars. I've   Michael Hingson ** 29:38 been talking with Walden Hughes, who, you know, is the guy who now runs yesterday USA, we've been talking about and we've been doing recreations of a number of shows. The problem is that the people who are involved, oftentimes have never really gone back and listened to the shows they're recreating and their voice. And what they do are so different than the kinds of things that you actually would hear on the shows, they just don't do it very well. And we've actually thought about the idea of trying to get a grant to try to teach people how to be radio actors and really learn to do the kinds of things that would make the shows a lot more meaningful. We'll see what happens. We're really working on it. We're going to be doing some recreations in Washington for enthusiasm. Puget Sound, yes, and one of my favorite radio shows has always been Richard diamond private detective. I thought such a wise guy, and so I am actually going to be Richard diamond in Nice,   Carl Amari ** 30:46 oh my gosh, yeah, wow. Well, you know, there's a real, there's a real special magic to doing these radio shows, as I know, you know, you understand, you know, there's, there's, and that was that really boils down to having great actors and also great writing like so CBS would send us. He would, they would send me the our the Rod Serling scripts, you know, we really, we'd get them, but they, of course, would not work on radio because it was written for a visual medium. So I had, I had a two time sci fi fantasy winning writer Dennis echeson, who is no longer with us, unfortunately, but he, he, he was an expert on Twilight Zone and also how to write for radio. And it's all about that it's taking that he would take the TV scripts and and redo them so that they would work without the visual, and that you start with that. And then you can, you know, then you can create, when you have a grin, you have a great group of actors. And I hired only the best Chicago supporting cast here, you know, the the Goodman theater and, and, you know actors and, and, you know people like that. And then, of course, the star, we'd fly the star in, yeah, and they, they knock out two shows. I bring in lunch in the middle of the day, we'd knock out two shows. And it was a wonderful experience doing like, I don't know, I think I did, oh gosh, close to 200 episodes.   Michael Hingson ** 32:13 Now, were some of the episodes, shows that never were on the the TV series, or they, yeah, when   Carl Amari ** 32:19 we got through the original 156 shows, because that's how many were in the original Rod Serling run. So we did them all. We actually one of them I never released because I wasn't happy with it. I think it was called come wander with me. So that one I never released, we did it. I wasn't happy with it, because it was a musical one, you know, I think it had Bob Crosby on it, or somebody like that, and on the TV show, and so it was a lot of singing, and I just wasn't happy with it. But after that, there was no no more. I could have gone into the later series, but I just, I said to them, can I hire writers to write new ones, you know? And they said, Sure, but we have to approve it and all that. And so a lot of them got approved, and a lot of them didn't. And then we, we, I think we produced maybe close to 4030, or 40 originals,   Michael Hingson ** 33:13 right? Yeah, did you ever meet Rod Serling? No, never   Carl Amari ** 33:18 did. He was gone before I got into this. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 33:22 he came to UC Irvine to lecture once when I was still on campus. I was actually Program Director of the radio station, and so several of us from kuci got to interview him. And one of our, the people who was involved with that, actually had one of the ape costumes from Planet of the Apes. So he came dressed up as one of the Apes. Was Wow, but great. But the thing about rod Sterling his voice is it's hot. How do I describe this? No matter what his voice sounded like on television, it wasn't nearly as deep as his natural voice, and microphones couldn't get the same level with his real voice, and so we interviewed him. His voice was very deep, and then we did then we went out and listened to the lecture at the gym, and he sounded like Rod Serling, but he didn't sound like Rod Serling when we were talking with him, yeah, and when we could hear him with our ears, when it came out on on the show that we did the interview, it again, sounded like Rod Serling, but just the microphone. Couldn't really get the full breath of his voice, which was sure,   Carl Amari ** 34:35 yeah. I mean, what a talent, right? I mean, and then he had that show, Zero Hour, zero hour, right? Yeah, radio. And that was an interesting series, too. He tried to bring back the and he didn't. It was a, I think it was a fine job. You know, good job. Yeah. There were others, you know, CBS Radio, mystery theater, of course, diamond Brown. And there were some other ones. But I. I'm real proud, really, really proud of The Twilight Zone. I think they're, they're, they're, I mean, they're not nothing is as good as the way they did these the shows in the golden age. I mean, I don't think anyone can get to that point, but they're, I think they're pretty close, and I'm very proud of them.   Michael Hingson ** 35:15 Oh, yeah. And, but it still is with the Twilight Zone. It's really hard to compete with that, my favorite Twilight Zone, and for me, it was tough because I never knew the titles of the shows, because they would show you the title, but I could never, never really hear them. But when I started collecting and got access to, like your your radio Twilight zones and so on. I started to learn titles, and so my favorite has always been valley of the shadow. Oh, great one. Yeah. I just always thought that was the best of the it was an hour long instead of a half hour. But I Yeah, on TV. But I always thought that was just so innovative. I   Carl Amari ** 35:57 think Ernie Hudson did that one for me. I'm trying to think, but yeah, there was, we had, we had so many incredible actors on it. I mean, it was, it was a real fun, you know, four or five years that I was doing those, lot of fun doing them. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 36:12 you had several with Stan Freeberg. And, of course, yes, who don't know Stan Freeberg was definitely very much involved in radio, especially in the 50s, late 40s, with, that's rich, but mostly in the 50s, a satirist and incredible humorist and entertainer. But he did several Twilight zones.   Carl Amari ** 36:31 He did, you know, yeah, I was working with him on, you know, I created the show when radio was, which is still out there today, and and when radio was I ever initially had art Fleming as the host, you know, the original host of original Jeopardy guy, yeah. And then when art passed away, I hired Stan Freeberg, and Stan was the host of that show for many years. And then, then, when I started doing Twilight Zone, I said, Hey, would you like to do some of these? And he's like, Yeah, I'd like to do them all, yeah. Let me have all the scripts. But the one that he did that I think, is just off the charts amazing, is called Four o'clock ever, yeah, one, yeah, yeah. That is just the most interesting show, The Twilight Zone episode that we did where he plays this kind of a loony, a loony guy, who is that? What you describe him as, narking on everybody doesn't like anything, like anybody or anything, no, and it's so and he calls people and harasses them and oh my gosh, and he says, I'm gonna shrink everybody to four inches tall at four o'clock. Four o'clock, right? Yeah, and it's just, oh my gosh, what a what a great episode. It's one of my favorites.   Michael Hingson ** 37:48 And of course, if you think about it, listening people out there who got shrunk at four o'clock,   Carl Amari ** 37:56 well, let's not give it away, but yes, I think you can figure it out.   Michael Hingson ** 37:59 I think it's pretty,   Carl Amari ** 37:59 easy to figure out, but, and I actually played, I actually played a role in that episode. I played the bird. I did all the bird sounds on that episode. And so I feel like I had a co starring role, because, yeah, he had a parrot. You know, that was every time you would say something. And I played that, that part on there. But   Michael Hingson ** 38:22 yeah, all the Twilight zones were, were so clever, yeah, and, and I love listening to them. I I have a an mp three player that I carry on airplanes, and I have audio copies of all the Twilight zones. So every so often as I'm flying somewhere or two on and listen there, Michael,   Carl Amari ** 38:43 I'm so glad to hear that. Oh, man, you make me so happy to hear that. So   Michael Hingson ** 38:47 fun. And you know, another one of my favorites was, will the real Martian please stand up now? Yeah, that was cute, and I won't give it. Oh,   Carl Amari ** 38:57 great. So great. Yeah, I sent trying to think who the actor was in that one, but it's been a while, but that's a great one, yeah. And I remember, you know, watching it on TV and and thinking, Oh, this would work on radio. So great, you know, so love doing them. Yeah, I'd love to do more. I might consider coming back and doing more. I mean, originals, you know, might be a lot of fun to do those again, I was   Michael Hingson ** 39:21 going to ask you if you've got any plans for doing anything future. You know, in the future might be interesting, and there's a lot of leeway, of course, to take it in different directions. Do x minus one, but you don't have to do the same stories, even, although, yeah, a lot of good stories in in the original x minus ones on for those who don't know x minus one is a science fiction series. It was on from what 1955 through 1957 I   Carl Amari ** 39:49 believe, yeah, it was a great series. Sci Fi really lends itself really, very well to radio drama. You know, in theater of the mind, it's great because you can, you can go in. Anywhere you land on any planet. And you know, it's very easy to do on radio, where it's tough to do on TV. You know, you have to spend a lot of money to do that. So, I mean, Stan Freeburg proved that with his with his giant ice cream Sunday.   Michael Hingson ** 40:15 All right, go with the marasino Cherry. For those who don't know, is that he said, we're going to empty Lake Michigan now. We're going to fill it up with whipped cream. We're going to drop a maraschino cherry into it and other things. He said, You can't do that on TV.   Carl Amari ** 40:31 Try doing that on television. Yeah, he was something. He was so much fun to wear. Of all the people that I've met over the years, you know so many of these radio stars, and I've interviewed so many hundreds of them, really, over the years, I'd have to say I have a special place in my heart for Stan the most, because I got to work with him for so many years, and we used to just go to lunch together all the time, and and he had a, he had a, he had a, what was it again? Now? Oh, oh, I'm trying to think of the car that he drove, a jaguar. It was a jaguar, and it was a and we used to drive around in his, his big Jaguar all around LA, and just have so much fun together. And I just loved working with Stan. He was such a great man. I   Michael Hingson ** 41:17 never got to meet what would have loved to Yeah, Jack Benny and Jimmy Durante, oh my gosh, yeah. And, of course, Stan Freeberg, but yeah, you know, I wasn't in that circle, so I didn't write that. But what, what wonderful people they were. And, yeah,   Carl Amari ** 41:32 George Burns, George Burns used to, yeah, George used to take me to the Hillcrest Country Club, and we would just have the best time. He just thought it was the most interesting thing that a young guy in his 20s was so passionate about, you know, those days. And he we would just talk for hours. And I used to go to his office in Hollywood and in his and we would just sit and talk. And I have pictures of of those, those times I have them in my office, you know, he and I together. He was like a mentor to me. He and Stan were both mentors.   Michael Hingson ** 42:05 Did you get recordings of many of those conversations? Yes, I do.   Carl Amari ** 42:08 I do have quite a few with with George and Stan. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 42:12 it was great, you know, yes, nothing like talking to God, that's   Carl Amari ** 42:16 right. And he had a coffee cup in his office. It's it was a white coffee cup, and it had God on it, and black to drink out of that coffee cup. And he had, I was to say, when I first, my first time, I went to his office in Hollywood, you know, he was a real long office, narrow with is all paneling, and there was all these beautiful pictures, like photos of all the people he and Gracie had worked with. And then there was this beautiful painting of Gracie above him, you know, where he was sitting at his desk. And I remember walking in. I said, Hi, George, because I had talked to him on the phone a lot of times. And he said, Ah, come on in, you know. And I said, Oh, man, George, these photos are amazing on the walls, looking as I was walking towards his desk. And he says, You like those pictures? I said, Yeah. He goes, everyone in those pictures is dead except for me. I knew him the last about four years of his life. From that, from he was 96 to 100 I knew George, and we'd, we'd go   Michael Hingson ** 43:16 to the Hillcrest together. It was fun. Did you meet or get to know Bob Hope, never   Carl Amari ** 43:21 met Bob Hope No, because he lived, what, two, yeah. He lived 100 Yeah. Never met Bob Hope No.   Michael Hingson ** 43:27 And Irving Berlin got to 100 Yeah, yeah. But so   Carl Amari ** 43:30 many, I mean, Jerry Lewis, and so many others that that, I mean, Jerry was so great. I mean, you know, probably one of the most talented people to ever live, you know, and he could even sing, and he could, he could do it all. I mean, he was something. I mean, I was in such awe of that man. And we, he was very kind to me, licensed me to Martin Lewis and all that. So, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 43:52 we saw one of my favorite musicals. I originally saw it as a movie out here on K Shea was the million dollar movie. It was Damn Yankees,   Carl Amari ** 44:03 damn Yeah, he was on Broadway. Did that on Broadway, and he did it on Broadway,   Michael Hingson ** 44:07 and we read about it. And his father, he had how his father said, You'll really know you've arrived when you get to do something on Broadway. And that was the only thing he ever got to do on Broadway. And we did get to go see it. We saw, Oh, wow, yeah,   Carl Amari ** 44:20 Broadway, amazing, yeah, amazing, yeah, yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 44:24 I'm so sad that there was so much acrimony for so many years between him and Dean Martin, yeah, which was really probably brought on more by all the people they worked with that, yes, that cost a whole lot more than them. But yeah, near the end they, they did deal with it a little Yeah?   Carl Amari ** 44:42 They, they got back together a little bit. Yeah, yeah. He was an interesting guy, Boy, I'll tell you. You know, just talking to him, I learned so much, learned so much over the years.   Michael Hingson ** 44:53 Yeah, yeah. It's so much fun to to be able to do that. Well, I really do hope you do get. To do another show, to do something else. And you're right, there's nothing like science fiction in terms of what you can do, and maybe even doing a series, yeah, yeah, as opposed to individual shows. One of my favorite science fiction books by Robert Heinlein is called the Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and I would love to see somebody dramatize that. I think it would take, probably, to do it right? It's going to take about 15 hours to do but, oh, wow. What a great what a great thing. If you've never read it, read the book, it's really, oh, I   Carl Amari ** 45:30 haven't, so I'm not familiar with it, so I'll give it a read. The Moon is a Harsh, missus,   Michael Hingson ** 45:34 yeah, yeah. Pretty clever. A computer helps organize a revolution on the moon, which was being colonized and run from the lunar authority on earth. Here's what gives it away in 2075 subtract 300 years. Yeah, it's all about the same thing, like the revolution here, but a computer, Mycroft wakes up and helps organize the revolution. It's really pretty clever. Oh, wow,   Carl Amari ** 46:04 that would be fun to do in a series. Yeah, it   Michael Hingson ** 46:08 would be worth doing. But, but, yeah, I've always enjoyed the book. Robert Donnelly read it as a talking book for blind people. Oh, okay, okay, yeah. So I actually have it. I'll have it, I'll have to find it. I could actually send you the recording. You could listen to it. Oh, please do. I'd love that. We won't tell the Library of Congress, so we will know much trouble.   Carl Amari ** 46:33 But you know, then I kind of, you know, my other passion is the Bible. Yeah, I was gonna get to that. Tell me, yeah. I was just gonna, you know, and so a lot of these same actors that did, you know, Twilight zones and things for for me, I just, I met, like Jason Alexander and so many of these people, Lou Gossett Jr, when I decided to do the to dramatize the entire Bible on audio. A lot of these same actors and many, many, many more, were really, were really great to be in that too. It was a lot of fun.   Michael Hingson ** 47:06 Yeah, well, very recognizable voices, to a large degree, like Michael York,   Carl Amari ** 47:12 yes, yes, he was the narrator. So he did the most. He worked the longest. What a great man. Just an amazing actor. He was the narrator. And then you know Jim Caviezel, who played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ, played Jesus in it, right? And then you know Richard Dreyfus was Moses John Voigt was Abraham. Max von Saito played Noah John Rees Davies was in it. I mean, we had, we had, I mean, Marissa Tomei was Mary Magdalene. I had many, many Academy Award winners in it, and so many people, you know, was in it. That was a four year deal that took me four years to do the full Bible. Yeah, 98 hours on audio, fully scored the whole thing.   Michael Hingson ** 48:01 Well, you had a great publisher put it out. Thomas Nelson, Yes, yep. They also did my first book, Thunder dog. So can't complain about that too much. No,   Carl Amari ** 48:10 they know how to market. It Was it, was it, I think, I think today it's still the number one selling dramatized Audio Bible in the world. I believe, you know, so it's, it's been a big success for Thomas Nelson, yeah, that was, that was, that was quite, I mean, you should have seen what my passport looked like when I did that. I mean, it was stamped for every country all over that I was going and, you know, and having to produce, because a lot of the actors, like, you know, John Reese Davies. He lives in, he lives in the Isle of Man, and, you know, and then, you know, Max von Saito was nice France, and we scored it in Bulgaria. And, I mean, you know, it was just crazy and traveling all over the world to make that audio. But you've done some other Bibles in addition to that. I have, yeah, yeah, I have. I've done, think I did. Now it's like five different ones, because I like doing different translations, you know, because it's different. I mean, even though it's the same story, the translations people people have translations that they love, you know, whether it's the RSV or it's the New Living Translation or the Nkj or, you know, and so I, I've enjoyed doing them in different translations. That's   Michael Hingson ** 49:25 pretty cool. Do you have any, any additional, additional ones coming out?   Carl Amari ** 49:29 No, no, I've done, I've done done, like, five and, and so I'm more doing, you know, more concentrating now on my radio show, Hollywood, 360, and, and some movie production stuff that I've been working on. And then I'm one of the owners of a podcast company. So we're, we're always putting out, you know, different podcasts and things. And so my plate is very full, although I would love, I think I would love to do some. Thing, like, what you're saying, like, either more Twilight zones, or maybe something like that. It might be, you know, I'd love to do something in the theater or the mind, you know, arena again, too, because I love doing that. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 50:11 I think it'd be a lot of fun to do. Tell me about the podcast,   Carl Amari ** 50:15 yeah. So, um, so we have a podcast company called Gulfstream studios, and we have our main, our main podcast is a is, is. So we're, we, we do a show called, well, there's, there's several podcasts that we're doing, but, but it's the spout is the is the one that's a music oriented we have all the biggest music artists on there. It's really great. So spout is the name of that podcast. And then we're working on, we're working on a Bible podcast. We're going to come out with some a Bible podcast pretty soon. I'm real excited about that more soon. Hopefully you'll have me back when we launch that. Well, yeah, and then, you know, we have, we're always looking for any so I'm ready to, I'm ready to take your podcast onto our platform. Whatever you say. Michael, oh, we'll have to,   Michael Hingson ** 51:10 we'll have to look at that and work it out. But in the meanwhile, I said earlier, I'd love to come on any of the podcasts that you want. And if, yeah, have you read thunder dog,   Carl Amari ** 51:19 no, I didn't know. I didn't have not read it. No. So thunderdog   Michael Hingson ** 51:23 was my story of being in the World Trade Center and getting out and so on. But you should read it, because there are also some, some really poignant parts, like, just to briefly tell that part of the story, I'll send you a video where of a speech I've given, but one of the parts of it is that, as I was running away from tower two, as it was collapsing, because we were at Vesey Street and Broadway, so we were like 100 yards away from tower two when it came down, I turned and ran back the way I came. And as I started to run, I started, I said to myself, and I stayed focused pretty much. But I said to myself at that point, God, I can't believe that you got us out of a building just to have it fall on us. Right? I heard a voice as clearly as we are hearing each other now in my head that said, don't worry about what you can't control. Focus on running with Roselle and the rest will take care of itself. Wow. And I had this absolute sense of certainty that if we just continue to work together, we would be fine. We did, and we were but I am very much a a person who believes in the whole concept of God. And for those who who may disagree with me, you're welcome to do that. You'll you'll just have to take that up with God or whatever at some point. But I would love to really explore anytime you you need a guest to come on and be a part of it, and who knows, maybe I'll be good enough to act in a radio show you do.   Carl Amari ** 52:49 I'm sure you would be, sure you would be Michael, but it would be, yeah, but it would   Michael Hingson ** 52:54 be fun to do. But I really enjoy doing all this stuff, and radio, of course, has become such a part of my life for so long, it has helped me become a better speaker. Was I travel and speak all over the world?   Carl Amari ** 53:10 Yeah, wow. Well, I'm a big fan of yours, and, and, but I'd love to read the book, so I'll order it. Can I get it off of Amazon or something like that? You can get   Michael Hingson ** 53:19 it off of Amazon. You can get it from Audible, okay, or wherever. And then I wrote, then we wrote two others. One's called running with Roselle, which was really intended more for kids talking about me growing up, and Roselle my guide dog at the World Trade Center growing up. But more adults buy it than kids. And then last year, we published live like a guide dog. True Stories from a blind man and his dogs about being brave, overcoming adversity and moving forward in faith, and that one is really about people need to and can learn how to control fear and not let fear overwhelm or, as I put it, blind them. And you can actually learn to use fear as a very powerful tool to help you function, especially in emergencies and unexpected situations. And so live like a guide dog uses lessons I've learned from all of my guide dogs and my wife's service dogs, Fantasia that have taught me so much about learning to control fear. And I realized at the beginning of the pandemic, I've talked about being calm and focused getting out, but I've never taught anyone else how to do it, so live like a guide dog is my solution for that, which is kind of that, that,   Carl Amari ** 54:26 that I'm sure helps a lot of people, you know, that's because fear is, is, it's, it's debilitating, you know? So, yeah, well, that's, but it doesn't need doesn't need to be, that's right, that doesn't need to be, yeah, it's one of the reasons why I wanted to do the Bible stuff, because I learned at a very early age that these theater, these radio shows you under, you listen and you actually interpret them and understand them deeper with the theater of the mind than watching them on television or reading them like, like. I think even reading a book as great as that is, if you heard it dramatized on radio, it's even more powerful. I and so I knew that if I took the Bible, which is the greatest book of all time, and it was dramatized in a way, in a kind of a movie quality way, with sound effects and music and wonderful actors that I thought people would get a deeper meaning of the word. And I think we it. We were successful with that, because so many people have written about it on Amazon and things and saying like I, you know, when I heard the Word of Promise, and when I heard this audio, I had to go and get my Bible and see, does it really say that? You know? So here's people that had read the Bible many, many times, and then they heard the dramatization of it, and were like, wow, I didn't even realize that, you know, that was that happened in the Bible. So it's, it's, it's pretty cool, you know, to read those you know how it's helped people, and it's helped save souls, and it's just been a great you know, it's been a very rewarding experience. Have you   Michael Hingson ** 56:09 ever taken it and divided it up and put it on the radio? Well, that's   Carl Amari ** 56:12 one of the not in the radio, but we're going to do some podcast with, we're going to, we're going to be doing something really, really unique with, with one of my later ones that I did not the Word of Promise, but a different one. And, and it's going to, it's going to be really, really special. I can't wait to talk about it on your show. Looking   Michael Hingson ** 56:30 forward to it, yeah, well, we have had a lot of fun doing this, and I'm going to have to sneak away. So I guess we'll have to stop, darn but we do have to continue this. And, and I'd love to find ways to work together on projects and be a part of your world and love you to be more a part of mine. I'm really glad that we finally had a chance to get together and do all this. It's been a lot of fun. Me   Carl Amari ** 56:53 too, Michael, me too. It's really, I said it was an honor, and it really was an honor. And thank you so much. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 56:59 for all of you listening, we hope you've enjoyed this episode of unstoppable mindset. Love to hear your thoughts. Feel free to email me at Michael H I M, I C, H, A, E, L, H i at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, I B, e.com, or go to our web page where we host the where we have the podcast, w, w, w, dot Michael hingson.com/podcast, Michael hingson is m, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I, N, G, s, O, n.com/podcast, love to get your thoughts wherever you're listening. Please give us a five star rating. We value that very highly. We really appreciate you giving u

Honoring Sacrifice: Veterans Reflect on Their Service and the Meaning of Memorial Day.  This poignant discussion on Memorial Day with two distinguished Vietnam War veterans, Vincent (U.S. Navy) and Steve (U.S. Air Force). They share their personal enlistment stories, experiences in Vietnam, and the profound significance of Memorial Day. Vincent and Steve reflect on the sacrifices of fallen comrades, the importance of educating younger generations about patriotism, and the camaraderie that helped them through tough times. The episode underscores the need to honor and remember those who served, particularly through community events like the Grayslake Memorial Day Parade. Honoring the Sacrifice: A Deep Dive into Memorial Day with Vietnam Veterans In this special episode of "Discovering Grayslake," we delve into the profound significance of Memorial Day through the eyes of two distinguished Vietnam War veterans, Vincent Mark Taranto and Steve MacInnis. Hosted by Speaker 1, this episode offers a heartfelt exploration of the personal experiences, reflections, and insights of these veterans, shedding light on the true meaning of Memorial Day.  Understanding Memorial Day: More Than Just a Day Off The True Meaning of Memorial Day Speaker 1 opens the discussion by emphasizing that Memorial Day is not just a day for barbecues and leisure but a solemn occasion to honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. Vincent Mark Taranto (Speaker 2) underscores this by highlighting the importance of educating others about the distinction between Memorial Day and other patriotic holidays like Independence Day. He stresses that saying "Happy Memorial Day" misses the point, as the day is meant to honor those who are no longer with us. Personal Reflections on Service and Sacrifice Vincent shares his poignant experiences from his time in Vietnam, reflecting on the young lives lost during the war. He recalls the emotional weight of seeing caskets draped in flags and the impact of losing friends in combat. One particularly moving story involves his college roommate, Michael D. Oliver, a lance corporal in the Marine Corps, whose obituary he heard on the Armed Forces Radio. This moment prompted him to pay tribute to Michael during a visit to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, capturing a powerful photograph pointing at Michael's name on the wall. Steve MacInnis (Speaker 3) adds to this by sharing his own experiences of returning home from Vietnam and the lack of support and understanding from society. He describes how he and other veterans were met with hostility and indifference, leading to feelings of isolation and frustration. The Journey to Enlistment: Different Paths, Same Destination Vincent's Story Vincent recounts his decision to enlist in the U.S. Navy after realizing he would likely be drafted. He chose the Navy based on the uniforms and enlisted on November 17, 1965, going active in January 1966. His journey took him to various locations, including the Philippines and Danang, where he worked with the Marines and experienced the intense atmosphere of a combat zone. Steve's Story Steve's path to enlistment was different. After a year at Oregon State University, he decided to enlist in the Air Force to avoid being drafted into the Army. Despite trying to avoid the physical exam, he ended up passing and joined the Air Force, eventually serving in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War. His entry into Vietnam was marked by a sobering realization as he witnessed the return of bodies from the war, a stark reminder of the reality of combat. Camaraderie and Humor: Coping Mechanisms in Difficult Times Building Bonds Both veterans emphasize the importance of camaraderie in coping with the challenges of military service. Steve recalls playing softball after shifts and engaging in social activities to unwind and support each other. Vincent agrees, highlighting how they looked out for one another regardless of their backgrounds, forming strong bonds that helped them through tough times. Moments of Humor Humor also played a crucial role in maintaining morale. The veterans share anecdotes of light-hearted moments that provided much-needed relief from the stress of combat. These moments of levity were essential in fostering a sense of unity and resilience among the troops. Honoring the Fallen: Personal Tributes and Community Involvement Remembering Friends Both veterans share stories of specific individuals they honor on Memorial Day. Vincent remembers his close friend, James Edward Hays, a chopper pilot who lost his life in Vietnam. He recalls the profound honor of being a pallbearer at James's funeral. Steve reflects on the importance of remembering those who served bravely and the impact they had on their lives. Community Events The discussion highlights the significance of community events in honoring the fallen. The Grayslake Memorial Day Parade is mentioned as a key event that brings the community together to pay tribute to veterans. Zoe (Speaker 4) describes how the parade culminates in a ceremony at Memorial Park, where the names of local veterans who lost their lives are read aloud, serving as a poignant reminder of their sacrifices. Educating Future Generations: Instilling Patriotism and Respect The Role of Veterans Both Vincent and Steve emphasize the importance of educating younger generations about the values of patriotism and service. Vincent shares his experiences speaking to youth about the realities of military service, urging them to appreciate the sacrifices made by veterans throughout history. Steve highlights the need for veterans to share their stories to provide a more accurate understanding of what Memorial Day represents. Engaging the Community The veterans encourage listeners to participate in local events, such as parades and memorial services, to honor fallen soldiers. They also suggest simple acts of kindness, such as displaying flags and memorials in their yards, to remind the community of the sacrifices made by veterans. Conclusion: A Message of Hope and Resilience As the episode draws to a close, the host thanks the veterans for their service and encourages listeners to engage in acts of kindness, particularly towards veterans. He challenges everyone to show appreciation for those who have served, whether through a simple thank you or by participating in community events that honor their sacrifices. This episode of "Discovering Grayslake" serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of Memorial Day and the need to honor the sacrifices of veterans. Through their personal stories, Vincent and Steve shed light on the challenges faced by veterans and the need for society to recognize and support them. By educating future generations and participating in community events, we can ensure that the memories of fallen soldiers are kept alive and inspire pride in our nation.

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

The first half of this ginormous double episode features Garth Franklin and a chorus of OHM Discord (David, Jacob, Marco, Rob, Marisa and Alex) racing with Will Graham to Francis Dollarhyde's lair. "The main difference [between MANHUNTER and CRUISING] is that [in MANHUNTER] blue lighting means isolation and safety whereas blue lighting in CRUISING usually means someone's getting fisted." When I ask for internet movie news, trailblazer - and one of my dearest friends - Garth Franklin to be on MINHUNTER he brings his whole self. GARTH FRANKLIN - EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, DARKHORIZONS.COMOne of the very first online entertainment journalists, Sydney-based Garth Franklin has clocked up more hours, stories and experience in this field than the entire staff of various other sites combined. Respected and well-regarded amongst his peers, Franklin created and designed the very first Dark Horizons® incarnation on geocities.com back in April 1996 and has steered it through at least four major re-designs, two recessions, hundreds of interviews, thousands of screenings, and tens of thousands of articles.Franklin, who is also a ‘Top Critic' on Rotten Tomatoes and member of the Australian Film Critics Association, has also contributed columns for several outlets including Empire Magazine Australia, Cinescape Magazine and AOL, served as a film critic on both Foxtel's Channel V and ABC Radio 702 with Angela Catterns, contributed content or towards pieces for numerous outlets ranging from IGN to USA Today to the U.S. Armed Forces Radio and Television Service, and guested on several podcasts including The Leaky Cauldron, Smodcast's Team Jack, Pod Save Our Screen and Hell is for Hyphenates.Join our Patreon for as little as $1 a month to receive an exclusive weekly podcast and access to the OHM Discord here.ONE HEAT MINUTE PRODUCTIONSWEBSITE: ONEHEATMINUTE.COMPATREON: ONE HEAT MINUTE PRODUCTIONS PATREONTWITTER: @ONEBLAKEMINUTE & @KATIEWALSHSTX & @OHMPODSSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/one-heat-minute-productions/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-a

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!   I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!   I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!   Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?   Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

A Mixed Bag on a Sunday...First a look at the events of the dayThen Stan Freberg, originally broadcast October 6, 1957, 67 years ago, All About Werewolves.  "Cocktails For Two," "Gray Flannel Hat Full Of Teenage Werewolves," a great story about a werewolf who changes into a horrible monster in the daylight (an advertising executive!)We follow that with the news from 67 years ago, then Yours Truly Johnny Dollar starring Bob Bailey, originally broadcast October 6, 1957, 67 years ago, The Bum Steer Matter. Cattle rustlers? Yes and no, but it's anthrax that counts!Then It Pays to be Ignorant, originally broadcast October 6, 1944, 80 years ago with guest Deems Taylor.  An Armed Forces Radio recording of the zany show. The first question (during the program): "What is the name of the Indian maiden the song (to be played) is about?" Don't miss, "The Old Oaken Bucket."Next The Charlie McCarthy Show, originally broadcast October 6, 1946, 78 years ago with guest Jack Benny.  Charlie's in love with two girls, twins named Daisy and Maisie. Guest Jack Benny offers Charlie a show of his own. Jack appeared on his own show the same day.  Two shows?  Good thing he's just 39...Finally, Superman, originally broadcast October 6, 1941, 83 years ago, Crooked Oil Association. Clark Kent (Bud Collyer) and Jimmy Olsen (Jackie Kelk) fly out West to help Tumbleweed Jones fight a crooked oil protection association.Thanks to Honeywell for supporting our podcast by using the Buy Me a Coffee function at http://classicradio.streamIf you like what we do here, visit our friend Jay at http://radio.macinmind.com for great old time radio shows 24 hours a day

Timmie Rogers was an African-American comedian, singer-songwriter, bandleader and actor. Rogers was one of the first Black comedians allowed to directly address a white audience. Before Rogers, African-American comics had to either work in pairs or groups, only conversing with each other, and they had to play a character. Because of this, Rogers was known as the Jackie Robinson of comedy. Rogers was born in Detroit in 1915. At the age of eight, he was earning money by dancing on the street. At the age of 12, Rogers ran away from home and found a job as a dishwasher on a boat, where he learned to speak 9 languages including French and German. By 1932, Rogers was a professional dancer, and in the 1940s he began performing on radio. In 1949, Rogers starred in America's first black prime-time television show Uptown Jubilee on CBS. He was also a recurring guest star on The Jackie Gleason Show on CBS-TV for over 12 years, and would continue to work with Jackie for the next thirty years. In the late 1950s Rogers recorded for Cameo and Parkway Records. His hits included "Back to School Again" and "You'd Better Go Now". When performing, Rogers often played a 10-stringed guitar-like instrument called a Martin tiple, which he used on a 1975 episode of the Redd Foxx sitcom Sanford and Son. Rogers was inducted into the National Comedy Hall of Fame in 1993. You will hear Timmie Rogers perform on 3 editions of the Armed Forces Radio show Jubilee, the first two in 1945, and the third in 1947. More at KRobCollection.com

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey! I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh? Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Joachim Krauledat kommt im April 1944 in Tilsit in Ostpreußen zur Welt. Heute ist das Sovetsk im Nordwesten Russlands. Im harten Winter 1945 flieht seine Mutter mit ihm ins thüringische Arnstadt – und 1948, um den sowjetischen Besatzern zu entgehen, weiter nach Hannover.Der kleine Joachim ist farbenblind und extrem lichtempfindlich. Deshalb trägt er schon als kleiner Junge eine Brille mit abgedunkelten Gläsern – was ihn im Umfeld der Gleichaltrigen zum Outsider macht.Sein bester Freund wird das Radio, das U.S. Armed Forces Radio, das ihn früh mit Blues, Folk, Rock'n'Roll und Country in Verbindung bringt.1958 wandert die Familie nach Kanada aus. In seiner Schulklasse kann niemand seinen Namen aussprechen – also ist er ab jetzt John. Und aus Krauledat wird einfach: Kay.Kay lernt Gitarre, spielt Mundharmonika, schreibt Songs und schließt sich 1966 der Blues-Invasion-Band The Sparrow aus Oshawa, Ontario an. Nach einem Zwischenstopp in New York zieht die Band nach Kalifornien, tourt zwischen Los Angeles und San Francisco.Einige Veränderungen im Bandgefüge später entsteht aus der Blues-Invasion-Band eine zeitgenössischere: Steppenwolf. Direkt auf dem silbern schimmernden Debütalbum aus dem Januar 1968 ist der Song, der die Karriere und das Image der Band maßgeblich bestimmen wird: „Born To Be Wild“.Unter dem Titel mit dem Nachtrag „Eine Band namens Steppenwolf“ hat Regisseur Oliver Schwehm eine äußert sehenswerte Dokumentation über die außergewöhnliche Geschichte der Band gedreht, voll mit Archivmaterial und Zeitkolorit, gespickt mit Selbstironie und getragen von den bemerkenswerten Lebensläufen ihrer Protagonisten. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh? Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped! Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh? Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Being a life-long blind person I have never served in the military and thus only understand the military way of life vicariously. There is reading about it, of course and there is talking to military people about their lifestyle. Today you get to hear a conversation not only about military life, specifically the army world, as it were, from a 20-year career soldier, Chase Spears who recently retired from the military as a major in the army. Chase grew up always interested in the news and what was going on in the world around him. He attended college, both undergraduate studies and later graduate work at universities in Tennessee. Along the way an army recruiting officer persuaded him to join the army. By that time, he was well married to a woman who, surprising to him, supported his decision to leave college and join the army. Chase's telling of this story is wonderful to hear. As you will see, he is quite the storyteller.   He and I talk a great deal about the world of a soldier, and he puts a lot of things into perspective. For those of you who have served in the military much of what you hear may not be totally new. However, since Chase served in public affairs/relations duties throughout most of his army career, you may find his observations interest. Chase and I had a good free-flowing and informative conversation. I personally came away fascinated and look forward to talking with Chase again in the future. A few months ago, Mr. Spears retired and entered into a doctoral program at Kansas State University where he is conducting research concerning how military life impacts the citizenship of those who serve. You will get to hear a bit about what he is finding.   About the Guest:   U.S. Army Major (Ret.) Chase Spears is first and foremost a Christian, Husband, and Father to five children who help to keep him and his wife young at heart. Having grown up with a passion for news and policy, Chase spent 20 years in the Army as a public affairs officer, trying to be part of a bridge between the military and the public. He merged that work with a passion for writing to become one of the Army's most published public affairs officers, often to resistance from inside the military. Chase continues that journey now as a doctoral candidate at Kansas State University, where his dissertation research explores how military life impacts the citizenship of those who serve. His other writings focus on topics including civil-military dynamics, communication ethics, and the political realities of military operations.   Ways to connect with Chase:   LinkedIn/X/Substack/Youtube: @drchasespears www.chasespears.com   About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.     Transcription Notes: Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Hi there and welcome once again to unstoppable mindset. And we have a I think really interesting show today are interesting episode we get to chat with major retired Chase Spears. I've been saying ret all morning because he's got Rhett in parentheses. And I didn't even think about it being not a name but retired. But anyway, that's me. Anyway, he has been involved in a lot of writing in and out of the military. He was a major military person for 20 years. He's now in a doctoral candidate program, Kennedy C candidacy program. And my gosh, there's a lot there, but we'll get to it also. Major Rhett major Chase spears. Welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're here.   Chase Spears ** 02:13 just thrilled to be with you, Michael. Thanks for having me. Now   Michael Hingson ** 02:17 that now that we've abused you with Rhett, but that's okay.   Chase Spears ** 02:20 I think God worse. Well, there   Michael Hingson ** 02:22 you are. And by your friends, I bet. So that's what really makes them more fun. But we're but I really am grateful that you were willing to come on and spend some time with us. Why don't we start I love to, to start this way to give people a chance to get to know you. Why don't you tell us some about the early Chase spheres and growing up and all that stuff?   Chase Spears ** 02:44 Well, it's yeah, it's been quite a journey. I grew up in the southeast us My family was out of Florida. And when I was a teenager, we ended up moving we went out to Texas, which was really just kind of a an entire change of culture for us. If you can imagine going from the kind of urban parts of Florida that are really highly populated a lot of traffic, a lot of tourism, a lot of industry. And we went up to North Central Texas in my teen years. And if you can imagine going from from that, you know, Florida to a town of about 9000 people it was a an oil and agricultural cattle town, and Graham, Texas and it was really kind of a culture shock at first, but turned into some of the best and most formative years of my life where I I really learned the value of hard work working on the fields with my dad really got to kind of connect with nature and just taking some gorgeous sunsets in the evenings out working in the fields enjoying the views of the wildlife Hall. I was out working. But one thing that I did learn from hard manual labor, was it made sure that I kept on track for college. And so I ended up going to Lee University in Cleveland, Tennessee in 1998. Right after I graduated from high school, I was homeschooled and met my Hi my sweetie there, Laurie. We were married by senior year we decided neither one of us we wanted to graduate and leave the other one behind. So we got married start a family pretty young afterwards. Went on to the University of Tennessee at Knoxville afterwards because I thought, hey, I want to work in journalism. And it'd be great to have a master's degree in journalism to prove my commitment to the field make people take me seriously. And it was during that time that I ran into an army recruiter while I was working my part time job at a law firm. I was working at the courthouse one day filing paperwork. And this gentleman and I just struck up a conversation in an elevator he was there in his full dress uniform was very impressive to me as a civilian at the time. And so I started asking him questions about what he did. In what army life was like just trying to be friendly, conversational, I was genuinely curious, though I was not looking for a military career. Well, as a good recruiter does, he managed to coax a phone number out of me. And seven months later there I am raising my right hand, swearing into the army in Knoxville, Tennessee. And so we were in the army for 20 years, we moved to several different parts of the nation, we've landed in northeastern Kansas, just on the outskirts of the Greater Kansas City, Missouri area. And now we're kind of starting a new phase of life after the army enjoying being kind of planted Gayndah. Watch our kids grow in a smaller community. And we're excited about what's next. So   Michael Hingson ** 05:42 what is the postdoc? Where are the doctoral degree in, that you're seeking.   Chase Spears ** 05:47 So I am in a program entitled leadership communication. But I'm kind of a misplaced public policy scholars what I've learned, but the faculty there have been so wonderfully gracious to me, and I've been very supportive of my research agenda. So I'm a career communicator. In the army, I was a public affairs officer. So everything I did was about stuff like this. I didn't community engagement, I did interviews, I was did social media strategy, I was part of the bridge that the military tries to build between it and the public, which is incredibly important in our form of governance. And so I love all things communication. And I also love team leadership, small organizational leadership, I had the chance to, to lead teams, I had the chance to lead a company while I was in the army, so fell in love with that. So when I saw a degree program that merged both of those, you know, they had me at hello, I was a sucker from the get go when I saw the marketing. So I applied and they very kindly accepted me. So I've been studying leadership communication, but my research agenda is actually more in the policy realm. My dissertation work is studying how did we come to this concept that the military isn't a political and air quotes institution, when it is funded by the government when it is commanded by elected leadership? When when we exert our national will, on other nations with it there absolutely political connotations to all of that. And And yet, we kind of say the opposite. So I was curious, I was like, this would be something fun to explore, how did we How did we get to where we believe this in spite of what we do? And so that's what my research Jind agenda is all about. And I'm having a lot of fun writing.   Michael Hingson ** 07:37 Well, and I guess we could go right to why well, so why do you think the reason is that we are not a political but we say we are? Oh, are you still researching it to the point where you're not ready to answer that yet? Well, I   Chase Spears ** 07:57 have, I have some theories and what I believe are pretty educated guesses. I'm trying to make sure that I don't bore your audience going too deep in the weeds on this. It's really kind of comes out of the Second World War. When you look at the history of the United States. Traditionally, we are a nation, our ancestors were part of a nation that were really cautious about the idea of having large standing military forces during peacetime. Because there had been this historical observance over hundreds of years, particularly in Europe, that large forces during peacetime ended up causing problems for society and the nations that bred large armies inevitably found ways to use them, that might not always be to the benefit of the populace. So we come out of the Second World War, and the nation has decided we're going to become the global military superpower, we didn't want to be caught off guard again, like we were for what Germany had done in the years after the First World War. And we also have a rising Russia, we need to counter that. So we decided as a nation, yeah, we will become a global, permanent, large, highly industrialized, highly institutionalized force. Well, how do you gain public support for that when the public has traditionally for hundreds of years been very, very suspect of that and very much against it? Well, Samuel, in walk Samuel Huntington, a brilliant political scientist who writes the book, the soldier in the state, and in it he proposed a theory of military supervision in which officers would abstained from voting and then over time that grew legs into Okay, well, now we're just not involved in politics and then in time that grew legs into where a political, but if you go around the force and ask most people what that means, if you ask them to define that word, few would actually be able to define it. It's one of those kind of discursive terms that we've come up with kind of like for the public good. Well, what is for the public good? Can you actually define that, and it's largely often in the eyes of the beholder. So that that's where I believe it came from, I'm still doing quite a bit of work and reading in that. But historically, it's very fascinating to see where we've come and just 70 years on that topic. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 10:25 And also, we're in a phase of all of that, where it seems to be at least that it's changing and morphing again, I mean, with what's happened in the last seven years in this country, and the, the lack of desire for discourse, the the desire on some people's parts to really involve the military and a lot of things. It seems like we're possibly changing again, or perhaps even strengthening the military in some way. And I'm not sure what that is.   Chase Spears ** 11:04 We there's really kind of been somewhat of a public backlash, the last, I'd say, five to 10 years, we saw an increasing comfort with military members publicly advocating for political policy for political parties, which is absolutely within their constitutional right to do, George Washington himself said, we did not lay aside the citizen to assume the soldier. But again, that that discourse coming out of the Second World War, really kind of conditions the American public to think that when you're in the military, you do give up your rights to expression that you do give up your rights to citizen agency, and, and, and meaningful involvement in civic processes. And while we do rightly give up some expressive rights, and that is captured and codified in military regulations, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, there's some legitimacy to that argument. But I would say, you know, if you're, if you're holding a ruler in your hand, the regulations kind of restrict us somewhere between the two and three inch mark on the ruler, whereas the perception that's just kind of come out of the repetition of these terms and ideas is more that we're up around the nine or 10 inch mark on the ruler, if that makes any sense for you. So we we've seen in the last few years, more military people being willing to get involved politically, and there has been somewhat of a backlash to it. And therein is the problem. You if you're going to hold to a belief to a doctrine to a discursive claim, then you have to match it. And the military is really kind of at a point right now they have a decision to make, are we going to hold on to this discourse to this idea? Or are we going to acknowledge that? Well, the regulations are much less restrictive than what people have been led to believe? It's it's a tough spot to be there's not a perfect answer, to help the institution requires cracking down on constitutional freedoms. And well, what is the institution there to serve? So it's a very sticky issue?   Michael Hingson ** 13:11 Well, it does seem to me that in no way, because the person becomes a soldier. And even in their oaths, do they give up the right to be a citizen of the country? So I'm with George Washington?   Chase Spears ** 13:26 Oh, absolutely. No, I am with with George Washington himself, you know, the greatest American? And I think we would, it's a, it's a good reminder of the importance of knowing our history and knowing where we came from. It's in my interviews with military members on this topic. In my research, I'm finding that that like me, most of them were just kind of told these things verbally. They were never pointed to the actual rules. They were never actually pointed to the actual laws. I only know the regulations because I have a personal fascination on the topic. And I went and looked them up. But no one ever told me where to find them. That was research on my own team and figure out where do I look for this. So it's, we really need to do better, nationally, to know our history and know where we came from.   Michael Hingson ** 14:14 We do have a really interesting paradox in the world, because we've gotten in the last two government administrations, to different views of not only how to govern, but to a degree how the military needs to be a part of it, and that's gonna not be very helpful to things either.   Chase Spears ** 14:34 Absolutely. The the military at the end of the day is controlled by the Civilian governance. Now. I'll acknowledge that General Mark Milley didn't really seem to think so and there have been other figures in military history who MacArthur being one of them who who seemed to challenge who was actually in charge of the military. But at the end of the day, constitutionally, we We are governed by by civilians. And that that is right, that is proper any anything else would be a coup and you don't want that. So we, it comes down to how does the military try to hold a consistent line? When you have governments that change every two to four to eight years and have drastically different perspectives on policy? How do you as a military hold an even keel and another wise stormy sea. And in previous generations, we had senior general officers who were pretty good at that they were pretty good at saying, regardless of what the ship of state is doing, the ship of military is going to remain on a heading to serve everyone. And there's been somewhat of a lack a breakdown of discipline at the senior ranks in the last probably 10 years, that's really kind of shuttered the ship of the military. And I think the current some of the recently promoted, general officers understand that I think General GA is the new Chief of Staff of the Army, I think he understands that and he's trying to do some things to reintroduce some stability, but it's a hard thing.   Michael Hingson ** 16:16 Yeah. And the other part about it is that the military, in some ways is a part of society. So we've had things like the whole Don't Ask, Don't Tell dealing with LGBTQ types of issues. And, and of course, even women in the military, and there's been a lot of things that haven't necessarily been as visible as they have become, and are issues that we are starting to face and deal with more. But it seems to me that the military, like it or not, is part of society. And we do need to recognize that collectively, as well.   Chase Spears ** 17:02 We were absolutely drawn from society. We serve society, we exist, you know, for the protection of society. But I will say there's one thing that's all always kind of set Western militaries apart a little bit, and the US military hails from that Western tradition of understanding that just because society chooses to take a move in one direction, doesn't necessarily mean that it's in the national security interest of the United States for the military, to follow suit. And then there's kind of a reason that the military has always tried to, in some way, set itself apart, of acknowledging that there's some things that society will do or want to that are affected by the times as Shakespeare himself noted, there's always a tide in the affairs and man, the tide comes in the time tide goes out the the, the winds shift. And but one thing that was said at the military part was this idea of, at the end of the day, if it's a societal change that enables us to better defend the nation, then that's the direction we'll move. If it's a societal change that could potentially be a friction point or cause additional challenges in securing the nation, we might, we might think on that one a little bit harder, we might be a little more a little slower to adopt that. And we've seen that has kind of broken down the military is very much going out of its way to be reflective of society. And in some ways that can be good in some ways that's caused additional unnecessary frictions to the force and is rightly being having questions asked about it.   Michael Hingson ** 18:45 And that's where having good solid leadership in the military at the highest echelons, has to be an important part of it, because that's where ultimately, the direction that the military goes, is at least in part, going to be authored. Yes, there is a civilian government that and civilian commander in chief, but still the military leaders have to really be the ones mostly to figure out where the military should go in terms of policies and how it deals with different issues or not, I would think.   Chase Spears ** 19:27 And the key word that you hit on there, Michael is leadership. Back a few months ago, I wrote a piece that was published by real clear defense called seven new things the new Sergeant Major of the Army could do to restore trust in the force. And the argument that I made his predecessor was one who was very kind of reactive to the, to the whims you might say, of a the younger generation of soldiers. He was very much all over Twitter about telling me your issues. Let me get involved in your issues. And he was, in some ways a very divisive, senior official in the military. And I equated it to you, you want to look at kind of the British constitutionalist position, the British Crown, if you're looking overseas, it has traditionally been something that it's kind of the rock, unmovable, unshakable, the parliament will do what parliament will do that the Tories and Labour will do what they will do, but the crown is unmovable the crown serves all. And that's kind of something that the military reflected, and I call out to the new rising generation military leaders to remember that, to remember that we don't own this, we owe nothing in the institution, we all leave it one day, as I left it a matter of weeks ago. All I have are my memories and and hopes that I was able to leave some things better than I found them and that the people I served that I hope I served them well. But at the end of the day, we hand it off to someone else. And it's so important for to have good leaders who recognize that we we steward the profession, that we we want to do the best we can with it in our time, and recognize the decisions that we make, will impact those who serve long after our time and do our best to hand it off in the best possible condition that we can for them. Because then to the to society, we returned. And then we depend on this who came after us for our national defense. And so it's the steward mindset to me as key.   Michael Hingson ** 21:41 Yeah. Well, and going back a little bit. So you're in graduate school you got recruited in and accepted and went into the military. What did you do? What was it like when you first went and that certainly again, had to be quite a culture shock from things that you would experience before? Ah,   Chase Spears ** 22:02 yeah, I figured absolutely was you'll never forget your first shark attack at basic training for for anyone who's unfamiliar with that, it's when you once you've done your initial and processing there, whatever base you get your basic training at, for me, it was Fort Jackson in South Carolina. And then they eventually buss you off to your your training companies, which is where you will actually conduct your combat training. This is after you've received your uniforms and done all your finances, paperwork, and life insurance and all that. And then the buses stop and the drill sergeants, they're just there waiting for you. And it's a moment you never forget. And of course, you jump off the bus and they're giving you all these commands that they know it's impossible for you to, to execute to any level of satisfaction. And then when you fail, as you inevitably will, you know, the entire group just gets smoked over and over and over again. And I remember that moment just having that realization of I have not in Kansas anymore, like the next next few months of my life are about to be very different than anything I've ever experienced. And it was it absolutely was. I got through that. And I think the first thing that was really kind of shocking to me be on to the training environment was the use of last names. So yeah, I go by chase my friends call me chase people who know me call me chase. I'm I'm not hung up on titles. I'm a simple guy. In the military, you are your rank and last name. I was specialist Spears sergeants First Lieutenant spears or LT Captain spears, major spears. And I remember at my first unit, there were other other people who in my unit there were the same rank as me. And so I thought were peers I'd call them by their first name. And they never gave me problems about it. But our higher ups would you know, people have rank spears, we don't go by first names spears. And I never I never 20 years and I still never really adjusted well to that I learned how to how to keep myself from getting as many talking to us about it over the years is I had in previous times. But that was a culture shock. And, and just the the constant what we call the military, the battle rhythm, you know, civil society would call it your work schedule, while in the military. It never really ends your day start very early. You have physical training that you're doing with your unit at 630. Depending on what unit you're in, you may be off at a reasonable time in the late afternoon, early evening, or you may be there. I've remember staying at work one night till 4am Just because the boss gave us a job to do. Frankly, it was an unreasonable job. But he gave us a job to do and an extraordinarily tight deadline and it took us till 4am to get the job done and And I was at work by 630, the next morning. So you never, ever really do get used to that in some ways, because you kind of come to accept it. But it's been really eye opening to me in the last nearly three months now that I've been now, looking back and having some control over my schedule now for the first time in 20 years, and realizing, wow, that was such a foreign existence I lived. But when you're when you're swimming in a fishbowl, you don't know you're wet. So every time you do adapt to it, but it's been neat being on the other side and realizing, you know, can kind of breathe in and start to have some say over what a schedule looks like, because I'd forgotten what that was, what that'd be like.   Michael Hingson ** 25:44 But as you rose in the ranks, and I assume took on more responsibility, did that give you any more flexibility in terms of how you operate it on a day to day basis.   Chase Spears ** 25:56 It all depended on the position, there were there were some jobs I had, where were, regardless of the rank, I had flexibility. And then there were other jobs, where I absolutely did not even as a major want, there was a job that I had, where the boss was very adamant. This is the time you will be here and you will be sitting at this desk between these hours and you are authorized authorized is a big term in the military culture, you are authorized a 30 minute lunch break period. And you will be here until this time every day. And this was when I had you know, I think I was at my 1718 year mark. And I remember thinking to myself, golly, do I need to ask permission to go to the bathroom to see, it seemed I didn't. So it really kind of depended on your job. There's a perception a lot of times that the higher you go in rank, the more control you have over your life. And I observed that the opposite is actually true. The higher you go, typically, the more the more demands are placed on you. The more people are depending on the things that you're doing. And and the bigger the jobs are. And the longer the days are was my experience, but it had been flooded depending on what position I was in at the given time.   Michael Hingson ** 27:17 Now, when you first enlisted and all that, what was Laurie's reaction to all of that.   Chase Spears ** 27:23 I was shocked. She was so supportive. She actually grew up in an Air Force household. And so she knew military life pretty well. Her dad had been been in, he spent a lot more time in the air force than I did the army. And then even after he retired from the Air Force, he went on and taught at the Naval Academy as a civilian. So she is just always had a level of familiarity with the military as long as she can remember. She joked with me that when she got married to me and then had to give up her dependent military ID card that it was kind of a moment of mourning for she didn't want to give that thing up. So one day, there we are Knoxville, Tennessee, and I approached her. And I'm trying to be very careful, very diplomatic, very suave, and how I bring it up to her and let her know I've been thinking about the army. And I'm kind of curious what she might think about that. Because it'd be such a drastic lifestyle change from everything we've been talking about. And I was bracing for her to look at me and be like, are you insane? And instead, she was like, Oh, you won't get in the military. And I get an ID card again. Yes. She was she was supportive from from Jump Street. And so you talk about a wife who just was there, every minute of it, and loved and supported and gave grace and rolled with the punches. milori Did she was absolutely phenomenal. Though, I will admit when it got to the point that I was starting to think maybe 20. I'll go ahead and wrap this up, because my original plan had been to do 30. But when I started talking with her about that she was she was also ready, she was ready to actually start having me home regularly for us to be able to start making family plans and be able to follow through with them. Because we had the last three years we had not been able to follow through with family plans, because of the different positions that I was in. So she was very, very supportive of me joining and then she was equally very supportive of me going ahead and and calling it calling it a day here or the last just at the end of this year. But what a what a partner could not have done it   Michael Hingson ** 29:41 without her. So where did she live when you were going through basic training and all that.   Chase Spears ** 29:46 So she stayed in Knoxville for nonGSA. Yeah. And then from there, she actually ended up moving up to her dad's and his wife's place up in Maryland because my follow on school after base See training was the Defense Information School. That's where all the Public Affairs courses are taught. And it's so happens that that is located at Fort Meade, Maryland, which is just about a 45 minute drive traffic dependent from where her dad lived. So while I was in basic training, she went ahead and moved up there to Maryland so that while I was in school up there, we could see each other on the weekends. And then from there, we didn't have to go back to Tennessee and pack up a house or stuff was already packed up so we could get on the road together there to wherever our next duty station was. And it turned out funny enough to be Colorado Springs, Fort Carson. And here's why that's funny. When, when I approached Laurie, about joining the army, one of the things that she was really excited about was seeing the world if you're in the military, you get to see the world, right. And my first duty assignment was the town that she had grown up in, because her dad had spent the last few years of his career teaching at the Air Force Academy there on the northern end of Colorado Springs. So so her her dreams of seeing the world with me, turned out that our first tour was going to write back home for her.   Michael Hingson ** 31:14 Oh, that has its pluses and it's minuses.   Chase Spears ** 31:17 Yep. So it was neat for me to get to see where she had grown up and learn the town little bit.   Michael Hingson ** 31:23 I've been to Fort Meade, and actually a few times I used to sell technology to folks there. And then several years ago, I was invited to come in after the World Trade Center and do a speech there. And so it was it was fun spending some time around Fort Meade heard some wonderful stories. My favorite story still is that one day somebody from the city of Baltimore called the fort because they wanted to do traffic studies or get information to be able to do traffic studies to help justify widening roads to better help traffic going into the fort. So they call it the fort. And they said, Can you give us an idea of how many people come through each day? And the person at the other end said, Well, I'm really not sure what you're talking about. We're just a little shack out here in the middle of nowhere. And so they ended up having to hire their own people to count cars for a week, going in and out of the fort was kind of cute.   Chase Spears ** 32:23 Well, there's quite a bit of traffic there. Now that basis when   Michael Hingson ** 32:26 I was then to there wasn't just a little shack, of course, it was a whole big forest.   Chase Spears ** 32:32 Yeah, yeah, it's I was back there. Golly, I want to say it wasn't that long ago. But it was about five years ago now is back there. And I almost didn't recognize the place. There's been so much new built there. But oh, I know, as far as army assignments go, it's a it's a pretty nice place.   Michael Hingson ** 32:50 Yeah, it is. And as I said, I've had the opportunity to speak there and spend some time dealing with folks when we sold products and so on. So got to got to know, people, they're pretty well and enjoyed dealing with people there. They knew what they were doing. Yeah,   Chase Spears ** 33:07 yeah, that's a it's a smart group of people in that base.   Michael Hingson ** 33:10 So you went through basic training and all that and what got you into the whole idea of public relations and what you eventually went into?   Chase Spears ** 33:20 Well, I had studied in college, my undergraduate degree was in television and radio broadcasting. My master's was in journalism, I'd grown up kind of in the cable news age, and the at the age of the emergence of am Talk Radio is a big, big tool of outreach. And I grew up thinking, this is what I want to do. I love communication. I actually thought it'd be really neat to be an investigative reporter on if, if you remember, back in the 90s, it was this big thing of, you know, Channel Nine on your side, yeah, had this investigative reporter who tell you the real deal about the restaurant or the automotive garage. And I always thought that would be amazing, like what a great public service like helping people to avoid being ripped off. And so I wanted to be a news. I'm sure you're familiar with the Telecom Act of 1996. That That caused a tremendous consolidation of media for your audience who might not be familiar with it. It used to be that really, if you had the wherewithal to buy a media station or a television station or radio station, you were unlimited in what you could you there were limits, I should say on what you could buy, so that you couldn't control too much, too much media environment, the Telecom Act of 1996, completely deregulated that and so large media companies were just swallowing up the nation. And that meant there's a tremendous consolidation of jobs and the my junior year in college. I was in the southeast us at the time at Lee University. Atlanta. Nearby was our biggest hiring media market, my June Your year CNN laid off 400 people. So I could tell really quick, this is going to be a chat and even more challenging field to break into than I thought. And that's why I ended up working part time in a law firm was in, in Journalism School. Afterwards, because I was looking great. I was looking for a backup plan. I thought if journalism doesn't work out, I also love the law. It'd be nice to get some experience working in a firm to see if I want to go to law school. So it was a natural fit for me when the army recruiter started talking to me. And he was asking me what I was interested in. And I told him, Well, here's what my degree is in, here's what my career plan had been, here's who I really want to do with my life. And he said, we have public affairs, I said, What's that? It turns out, the military has radio stations, and they have television networks and you PR, I had no idea. I was a civilian. And I was like, Well, that sounds good. And so I thought, yeah, sure, I'll I will enlist for that come in, do one four year contract, I'll build a portfolio and and then I'll be able to take that portfolio out into the civilian realm. And hopefully that will make me more competitive for a job in the news market. And of course, a couple of years into that. I was in Kuwait deployed to camp Arif John. And my brigade commander sat me down to lunch one day, and made it very clear that he expected me to apply for Officer Candidate School, which was nowhere on what I was interested in doing was nowhere on my radar, I applied, I really didn't have a lot of confidence. I thought, I looked at officers and I thought they were people who are way, way more intelligent than me, way more suave than me. And I really didn't know if I'd get in, well, I got in. And after I commissioned officer candidate school is about like basic training all over again. So that was fun. And I ended up being assigned to a combat camera unit. And then afterwards, I was able to put my paperwork in to branch transfer right back into public affairs, it was a perfect mess was everything I wanted to do. I didn't get to work in news directly. I wasn't a reporter. But I got to work with reporters, I got to be an institutional insider and help facilitate them and help to tell the stories of what some great American patriots were doing, and wanting to serve their countries. And so it was, for the most part, more often than not, it was a really, really fun way to earn a living living.   Michael Hingson ** 37:34 I collect as a hobby old radio shows I'm very familiar with but back in the 40s was the Armed Forces Radio Service, then it became Armed Forces Radio and Television Service. And so I'm aware a little bit of, of the whole broadcast structure in the military, not a lot, but but some and know that that it's there. And it does, I'm suspect, a really good job of helping to keep people informed as much as it can as they can with the things that they have to do in the world. It's   Chase Spears ** 38:04 definitely it's a comfort over the years, if you're spending a lot of time overseas to have kind of that that taste of home and our forces network does a really good job of that letting I think we're starting to see some debates inside the military. Now. What do we want to continue of it? Because now information is so ubiquitous, if you will, you can pull it down, you can stream whatever you want, wherever you are in the globe. So I kind of wonder in the next 1020 years, will it still be a thing, but during my early career during my early deployment before he could stream stuff, it was really cool to have an AFN radio station to tune into is really cool to have an AFN television network to tune into to be able to get a taste of home. That was much a comfort,   Michael Hingson ** 38:52 right? Yeah, it is. It is something that helps. So you can't necessarily stream everything. I spent a week in Israel this summer. And there were broadcasts I could get and pick up through the internet and so on. And there were stuff from here in the US that I couldn't get I suspect it has to do with copyright laws and the way things were set up but there was only so much stuff that you could actually do.   Chase Spears ** 39:20 And what a time to be in Israel you will I bet that trip is even more memorable for you now than it would have been otherwise.   Michael Hingson ** 39:27 Fortunately, it wasn't August. So we we didn't have to put up with the things that are going on now. But still Yeah, it was very memorable. I enjoyed doing it. spending a week with excessively over there and got into getting to meet with with all the folks so it was definitely well worth it and something that that I will always cherish having had the opportunity to do get   Chase Spears ** 39:51 for you. If it's on my bucket list. I've always wanted to spend some time over there.   Michael Hingson ** 39:56 Hot and humid in the summer, but that's okay. Let's say but they love breakfast. Oh, really? So yeah, definitely something to think about. Well, so you, you joined you got you got the public relations, jobs and so on. So how did all that work for you over? Well, close to 20 years? What all did you do and what, what stories can you tell us about some of that?   Chase Spears ** 40:25 It was it was fascinating. It was fascinating because everything that I got to touch was, in some way a story. And so my first job was in radio and television production. I did quite a bit of that in Kuwait. And it was actually there that I got my first taste of crisis communication, and I was immediately addicted. Do you remember back in? It was December 2004. Donald Rumsfeld said you go to war with the Army you have not the army want or might wish to have it another time? Yeah. I was there. That that was uttered in camp you're in Kuwait. And that was such an interesting moment. For me in terms of a story to tell. I was with the 14 Public Affairs Detachment we were deployed to camp Arif John to provide public affairs support for for Third Army's Ford headquarters. This was back during the height of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. And so there's a lot of military going over there. We were part of that. And I remember hearing this tasking that had come down that the Secretary of Defense is going to come out here is going to do this town hall meeting with the troops. There's going to be no question that you can't ask. You're going to be allowed to say anything you want to say to the Secretary of Defense, nothing's going to be scripted, nothing's going to be put through for review. And by the way, 14 pad you guys are going to make sure that it can be televised live back to the United States. And so here I am thinking what can possibly go wrong. And so we helped we all the event, Secretary Rumsfeld hindered and handled it really, really well. They set up this big, you know, fighting machinery display, they're in a in a big aircraft hangar epic camp bearing which is in northern Kuwait, just not too far south from the Iraqi border. And he gets up he gives the speech. He's well received by the troops. And it goes to the q&a part. And soldiers were asking him all sorts of questions. Most of them are jovial, you know, hey, when when do we get to go to Disney World, stuff like that. They were kind of big jocular with them.   Michael Hingson ** 42:42 Seems a fair question.   Chase Spears ** 42:44 Yeah, you know, I felt them right. And so finally, this one guy, I'll never forget his name, especially as Thomas Wilson from the 2/78 Regimental Combat Team. Tennessee National Guard asks him a question about when are they going to get the body armor that's needed? And in true Rumsfeld style, he's he says, Well, I'm not quite sure I understood the question. Can you ask it again, which is a great technique. He used to buy him some time to think the answer. And then it came back after the second question. And the whole hangar about 1000 of us in there. It was hast. I'll bet you could have heard a plastic cup hit the floor at the back back of the room. I mean, everyone was like, what? Oh, no, what just happened? What's about to happen? And Rumsfeld makes that remark, you go to war with the army have not the one you want or need. Yeah. And and then the questions went on. And there was not be after that. There was no awkward moment for the rest of the time. And I and I thought, wow, that could have gone south. But it didn't cool. It was just it was neat to watch. I was running the television camera that caught the moment. I was in the room. And so we me and my sergeant had to stay up there the rest of the day because there were some other television network interviews with other officials that we were running the satellite transponder for. And it was a long day our commander was kind of being a jerk to us. So by the end of the day, we were tired we'd been up there sleeping on cots for a couple of days, we were kind of just ready to get back to data camp Arif, John to our beds and put the whole mission behind us. And then we drive to three hours through this pouring pouring rainstorm in Kuwait, and a Canvas side Humvee that's leaking. All you know, water just pouring into this thing on us. So we're done. We're done. We're done. We're like, we just want to get a bed. We get back to our base. We're offloading all the equipment, putting everything away. And at this point in time, I forgotten about the moment earlier in the day when that question was asked, and I walk in and there we had this wall of televisions you know, tracking all the different news networks back in the US and on all of them Their Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, you go to war with the army have not the army won or wish to have another time. And at that moment, I was like, it's about to be an interesting few weeks around here. And it turned out, it turned out indeed to be an interesting few weeks, an interesting few months. And I got to be on the front end of what the public affairs response to that looks like. And I can tell you, I've never seen armored vehicles flow into a place as quickly as they did in the following month. So the power of a message transmitted is a real thing. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 45:39 so whatever happened to specialist Wilson?   Chase Spears ** 45:44 I don't I don't know. I know that news coverage. When that news reporters were asking that very question and coverage that I saw said, Oh, his unit, his assured that nothing bad will happen to him. He was a national guardsmen, so he kind of fall under a different, different command structure than us. From time to time, I have wondered that and I've tried to look him up online, and just try to find out what happened to the sky and what was life like for him? I'd love to talk to him and ask alright, what was it like, man, what is your unit do? But I, I have no idea. I can't find him. I presume he's gone about his life and doesn't want to be famous about it. But it also goes back to National Guard culture versus active duty culture. We talked earlier about the citizenship aspect. And the National Guard gets that way more than the active component. At the end of the day, they demobilize. And they go home. Right, you're running into the same people you serve, with the church, at the grocery store, at the grocery store, at the PTA, places like this, some of them might be your neighbors. And so they have an entirely different outlook. This is what they do to serve the country when needed. And then they go on about their lives. I don't think you would have seen an active duty soldier ask that question. I really don't because the culture is so so markedly different. And there's a level of kind of freedom of thought and expression, present that guard that that is much more lacking in the active component.   Michael Hingson ** 47:19 Should there be more freedom, in that sense in the active component? Or do you think that it's really appropriate for there to be the dichotomy that you're describing?   Chase Spears ** 47:32 And the act of force you need discipline? You need a discipline force, who, when they're given a lawful order, will carry it out hastily, because lives could hang in the balance. That's absolutely important, and we can never lose that. But sometimes we can use discipline I say sometimes, often, more is the more appropriate term often we confuse discipline with silence. We confuse discipline with a lack of willingness to ask tough questions. We confuse discipline with just saying Yes, sir. When you know, in the back of your mind, there might be something you need to dig into more. We we need, unfortunately, since the end of the Second World War, going back to my comments earlier about this large, industrialized, institutionalized force we have it breeds careerists. It breeds a mindset that's fearful to ask tough questions, even if you know they need to be asked. Because you want to be promoted. Right? You want to get assignments, right. And it breeds a culture where you really are much more timid. Or you're much more likely to be timid than someone who's maybe a reservist or National Guard member. We need people who will ask tough questions. We don't need indiscipline, we don't rush showmanship, we don't need people who are being performative just to be seen. But there are valid questions to be asked is, you know, is US defense policy? Better set for a 400? Ship navy or a 300? Ship? Navy? That's a valid question. Is it better for us to use this route of attack versus that route of attack? Given the Give Me Everything we know, those are valid questions. We need people in the military who who are willing to be critical thinkers, and there are a lot of extraordinarily brilliant people in today's armed forces, as there always has been. But there is on the active duty side a culture that works against original thought and that's really to our detriment. And I think the manner in which the evacuation of Afghanistan ended is one more blatant indicator of that.   Michael Hingson ** 49:48 It was not handled nearly as well as it could have been as we have seen history tell us and teach us now   Chase Spears ** 49:56 Absolutely. i It broke my heart. I'm A veteran of that conflict I'm not one who cries easily, Michael but I can tell you that morning when I saw the some of the images coming out of cobbles especially there's a video of a C 17 cargo jet taking off and people literally hanging to and falling to their deaths. Just i i fell off, I fell off my on my run into a sobbing human being on this on the ground for a little bit it is there's a lot to process and it has continued to be a lot to process. And there again, there's a great example of why you gotta be willing to ask tough questions. There was no no reason at all. We should have abandoned Bagram and tried to evacuate out of downtown Cabo. But that's a whole nother conversation. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 50:52 Well, speaking of you, I understand that you weren't a great fan of jumping out of airplanes, but you got used to doing them? I   Chase Spears ** 51:01 sure did. Oh, yeah. I always thought that would just be something that no, I don't want to say no sane person would do. I mean, I enjoy watching skydivers, I think it's really cool. And obviously, they're saying, I never thought I'd be among them. I thought, Nah, that's just something, I don't think I'm gonna do that. And when I was an officer candidate school, I was roommates with a guy who had been to Airborne School earlier in his career. And he was like, man, don't do it. Don't let him talk you into going to Airborne School, though, you'll be stuck at Fort Bragg, you'll just you'll be broke all the time, you'll be hurting all the time, the army takes the fun out of everything. And he's right. To an extent the army does take the fun out of most things that touches. But I got to my first unit as an officer. So I'd done enlisted time for three years, then I went to Officer Candidate School. And then my first job as an officer was at the 55th combat camera company, which is not a full airborne unit, but it's a partial airborne unit. And they had a hard time keeping enough active duty paratroopers on hand. And so I remember day one, when I was in processing the unit, there are all these different places you go, when you're in process, you gotta go see the training room, and you got to go see the administrative room, and you got to go see the Transportation Office and all these places, and they're just checking your paperwork. And so I see the training room, and there's the sergeant in there. And he's looking through my list. And he's asking me all these questions, you know, when was your last PT test? Where's the last physical, you know, making notes on me for the unit record? And then he says, Do you want to go to Airborne School? And without thinking, I said, Absolutely not. I have no interest in going to Airborne School. And his reply to me was go ahead and get an airborne physical. And I thought, There's no way I'm ever getting an airborne physical because I'm not going to Airborne School. So a few weeks later, I'm in the unit, I'm more comfortable. And I'm across. I'm in a different office across the hall from where this guy worked. And I'm joking around with this other sergeant. And I'm like, sir, and you're just such a cool guy. Like you've got all together, you're, you're like everything I want to be when I grow up. What how do you do it? He said, Well, sir, you got to go to Airborne School. That's step one. The other guy across the hall ever hears that, you know, mouse ears, I don't know how. But he darts out of his office across the hall into this opposite we're in, looks me straight in the face and said, Did you say you want to go to Airborne School? Like no, is not what I said, I absolutely have no interest. I'm not going to Airborne School. And he again replies with schedule your physical. And I thought, I'm not going to disappoint me scheduling a fiscal. So I get back to my office that later that day. And I thought this guy is not going to give up. So I came up with this brilliant plan. It was smart, smartest plan you'll ever hear of, I'm going to pretend I'm going to get my airborne physical and then he'll forget about me, leave me alone. So I called him and said, Hey, Sergeant, what's the phone number I have to call them schedule an airborne physical and it gives me the phone number and the the name of the person to talk to and I said, Great. I'll talk to him. There were two or three other lieutenants set to show up to the unit next in the next month. So I thought he will assume I'm getting a physical which I'm not getting and there's other guys will show up and he will convince them to go and I will fall off his radar. I was incorrect. That was a bad bad miscalculation on my part, you might say a flawed operation   Michael Hingson ** 54:39 with your the and you were the one who was talking about brilliant people in the army Anyway, go ahead.   Chase Spears ** 54:43 I know I know. Right? Yeah, I am a paradox. And so that within an hour I get an email from him with my he's already put me in for school. I already have orders generated to go to jump school. And then he calls me he's like Hey, by the way, your report in like three weeks, I need your physical as soon as you can get it. And I thought this guy, I told him I'm not going to Airborne School. Well, at the same time, our unit commander was a paratrooper, and he loves jumping out of airplanes. And I had two or three paratroopers in my platoon who were underneath me. And I thought, There's no way I can go now. Because if I, if I get the commander to release me, one, I'll lose face with the old man. And I'll lose face with the troops that I lead because the soldiers have to compete for this. They're just giving it to me. And so I went, protesting, kicking, screaming the whole way. I hated ground week. I hated tower week. And then they put took me up to the 250 foot tower and dropped me off the side of it under a parachute. And I loved it. I was like, Oh, this is fun. I actually asked if I can do it again. And they said, they don't get what's right. So the next week, we go into jump week in there I am in the back of an airplane, and it comes to my turn to get up and exit it. And I do, and I get to the ground and I survive. And I literally just sat there and laughed uncontrollably because I couldn't believe I just jumped out of a plane. And it was my first of 40 jobs. So I was I was absolutely hooked from that moment on.   Michael Hingson ** 56:20 And what did Lori think of that?   Chase Spears ** 56:23 She was a little bit surprised. She She again, was supportive. But she was surprised she never thought it's something that I would take to and it ended up being a great thing for us. Because having been on jumped status, it opened the door for me to request the unit and Alaska that we ended up going to for six years, you had to be on airborne status to be able to go to that job. And so had I not going to jump school, I would not have qualified to go into Alaska for that particular job. And so it ended up being a wonderful, wonderful thing. But I would have never guessed it, it just it's another one of those poignant reminders to me that every time that I think I've got a plan, it's God's way of reminding me that he has a sense of humor, because what's going to work out is always going to be very different from what I think.   Michael Hingson ** 57:10 And you help Laurie see the world. So well worked out. Absolutely.   Chase Spears ** 57:15 Yeah, she we never, we never got to spend time together overseas. But Alaska was an amazing adventure. And, gosh, if if no one in your listeners haven't been there yet to go see a Sunday?   Michael Hingson ** 57:29 Yeah, I went there on a cruise I didn't see as much as I would have loved to but still, I got to see some of them. It was great.   Chase Spears ** 57:38 It's nothing like it. No. Now you   Michael Hingson ** 57:42 as you advance in the ranks, and so on you, you started being in public relations, being a communicator, and so on. But clearly, as you advanced, you became more and I'm sure were viewed as more of a leader that was kind of a transition from from not being a leader. And just being a communicator and doing what you were told to be more of a leader, what was that transition like?   Chase Spears ** 58:07 That was another one of those things that I would have never seen coming. After I did my three years as the spokesman for the Airborne Brigade. In Alaska, I ended up becoming the deputy communication director for US Army, Alaska, which was the highest army command there in the state responsible for 11,000 troops and their families in multiple locations. And I remember one day, my boss came to me and saying, hey, the general is going to give a speech to the hockey team at the University of Alaska, about leadership. And so I need you to write it. And I looked at him and I said, boss, all right, whatever he told me to write, but the general has forgotten more about leadership than I know, like, how do where do I start with this? And I don't remember the exact words, I think it was something to the effect of, you're smart, you'll figure it out. And so I put together a speech, it was by no means anything glorious, but it was the best I had to give that moment in time and what leadership was fully convinced that I was not one. And then over time, I there are people who spoken to me at their headquarters who called out leadership that I didn't see they were pointing out influence that I had there pointing out people who I was able to help steer towards decisions that I didn't realize that I didn't know and it made me start looking back in other parts of my career and realizing, Oh, my goodness, I actually led that team. This man actually looks to me for decisions. I actually I am a leader, I had no idea. There's something I always thought if if you were in the military and you're a leader, you were some grand master, you know, like, like Patton or Eisenhower and I didn't think think myself anything like that. And so finally, in 2015, I was offered A chance to take command of a company which in civilian terms, that's kind of like being the executive director, if you will, of an organization of 300 people. And I was so excited for it. Because by that point in time, I finally made the mental transition of saying, I'm not, I'm not merely a communicator, communicating is what I've done. But occasionally it's I've worked on delivering us on passionate about, by came to realize, I love that so much because communicating is a part of leading and, and I, I am a leader, it's just something. Looking back. Of course, my life has always been there, I just never knew it. I never saw it, I never believed in it. And so by the time I was offered the chance to command, I was very excited for it, I was very eager for it, because I realized this is going to be an a wonderful adventure getting to lead a team at this level of this size. And it was the hardest job I ever did in the army, and the most rewarding. I don't know if you've ever watched any of the Lord, Lord of the Rings movie. But there's this moment where Aragon is being chided, is set aside the Ranger Be who you were meant to be to be the king. And that meant that came back to my mind several times I had to challenge myself that just because I only see myself as a communicator all these years doesn't mean that I can't do other things. And so it was a joy to actually walk into that. Believing is not easy. There's there are a lot of hard days or a lot of hard decisions. Especially when I was a commander, I agonized every decision. So I made because I knew this will have an impact on a person, this will have an impact on a family this, this will change the directions and plans that people had. And so it's a heavy weight to bear. And I think it's good that those kind of decisions come with weight. And I would question someone who who can make those kinds of calls without having to wrestle with them.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:01 When you look at all the things that you've done, and the work that you do, and the work that you did, at the end of every day, or at some time during the day, I know you were pretty busy. But did you ever have the time to just kind of sit back and reflect on how did this go today? How did that go? What could have been better? Did you do any kind of introspection? Or did you feel you had time to do that?   Chase Spears ** 1:02:24 I didn't really feel I had time. And it would be easy for me to blame the unit, it'd be easy for me to blame people. But that responsibility rests with me. It's a discipline that I didn't develop until way too late in my career. And I eventually did develop it, I eventually came to realize the importance of reflection of introspection of taking a mental inventory of what I've accomplished I didn't accomplish and what I can learn from it. But it was sadly something that I didn't do as much as I should have. And I didn't do it as early, I was really, really bad at assuming well, because the unit needs this right now. I can't take care of this thing that I need to take care of that will that will allow me to be the leader that I need to be you know, I get in a car, someone slams on my car, and I need to get them to take care of it. Why don't have time unit Scott has to have me We gotta move on. Well, I've got six screws in my left hand and my left shoulder right now because I was always too busy to listen to the physical therapist and take care of myself, you know, the unit needs me the unit needs me the men need me. And so it, it was a hard, hard learned lesson. The importance of sitting back and reflecting is something I wish I would have learned much sooner. But once I did, it served me well. And it's a discipline that I still practice now.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:46 Yeah, yeah, it's, I think a very important thing. And a lot of things can can stem from that. What's the best position your favorite position in the army and why?   Chase Spears ** 1:03:59 The best thing I ever got to do is company command. And it's hard to say that because it's really it's really closely tied with being a brigade director of communication. And t

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh? Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?  Did you doze off? No?? Well. If you want to know more, then you'll just have to ask me when I'm on-air!

Howdy! If you've landed here, then I suppose you wanna know my deep, dark secrets. Sorr-rey!  I will tell you I am a U.S. Navy disabled veteran. All my duty stations in a nutshell: I started in Antarctica (Summer Support based out of Port Hueneme, California) and Christchurch, New Zealand, Hawaii, Illinois briefly for Forecast school. Then off to Iceland; spent 1 year at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a quite torturous year in physical therapy. From there I ended up as Staff Meteorologist as an E-6 (after my E-7 left and told the detailer an E-7 AG wasn't needed at that command) to an admiral in Okinawa. In between I went to the Philippines, Thailand, oh and South Korea a few times and once to Yokosuka, Japan. My final duty station was at Whidbey Island, Washington. I finished my journyeyman course there and became a Certified Journeyman Meteorologist. Still wasn't good enough for the National Weather Service, though. Oh well. And, believe it or not – I did volunteer DJ work for Armed Forces Radio in both Antarctica and in Iceland! Out of all of that, I don't have ONE good sea story for you!  I spent 10 years as a weather producer making all the graphics you would see for the then startup of CNN International. All but one producer were pink slipped!  Still with me?? Wow… you DO like punishment, don't you? So after another ten years of drifting around for work, I did the absolute final injury to my back and am now in a fully disabled state as far as work goes. Good thing I had that ten years at CNN International, since I missed out on retiring from the Navy. For my 65th birthday just this last May, I gave myself one helluva gift by toally blowing the quadricep tendon to my left knee! What a way to celebrate one's milestone birthday, huh?

Nick Clooney - famous Cincinnati broadcaster and local icon, joins Jack and Randy to share his Reds fandom from the late 1930s to the present day. A captivating discussion touching on long forgotten names from the 1940s, Grady Hatton, the integration of baseball, how fans "watched the radio" before TV broadcasts of the Reds, Waite Hoyt describing the action after receiving teletype of the game action on the road, and meeting members of the Big Red Machine when he was working in Cincinnati beginning in the 1970s. Nick explains why "The Natural" is his favorite baseball movie and how he helped to mentor children in Cincinnati by explaining his story. And, of course, memories of his son George Clooney.Win a $50 Gift Card from Prime Cincinnati by emailing us at freepete14@gmail.com! Cincinnati's finest steakhouse and seafood restaurant!

Audio introduces the Armed Forces Radio rebroadcast of an April 6, 1945 "Comedy Caravan" starring Garry Moore and Jimmy Duranted with guest vocalist Georgia Gibbs.

Today we're talking with Cal Thomas, about his latest book, “A Watchman in the night: What I've seen over 50 years reporting on America”. Thomas is a Vietnam era veteran who served as a radio broadcaster on Armed Forces Radio and then went on to become a legendary conservative journalist and Fox News broadcaster. We discuss what inspired his thoughts on American culture and conversations with Presidents, politicians, and world leaders including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.Thomas reflected on the way news is reported and consumed today, and offered some advice for the way all Americans should pursue the truth in today's ratings-driven media landscape. He also shares how lunch meetings he had with President Ronald Reagan shaped his conservative ideals.Thomas also discussed his Christian faith- and how it has been received as a journalist in the national media, his thoughts on the current Israel-Hamas War, and why he does not believe in a two-state solution.Find more from Cal Thomas here:https://calthomas.com/Check out his book “A Watchman in the night: What I've seen over 50 years reporting on America”https://www.amazon.com/Watchman-Night-Years-Reporting-America/dp/1630062375To reach CBS Eye on Veterans Host, Phil Briggs: phil@connectingvets.com Follow on Twitter: @philbriggsVet @eyeonveteransSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The nature of this program.... basically Virginia plays contemporary songs of the late 1950's and early 60's and then Andy will play an original version of the same song done by a different artist 25 to 30 years before.. Listeners got to hear the two versions which were often very different. Program aired 1000 times from 1957-60 over the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service. There is a playlist "Turn Back the Clock" where this track and more like it, are stored. Thanks for listening...

Audio Intro gives the organization of the show which was quite unique. Aired over 4 years and 1000 shows on the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service. Virginia plays a contemporary song of the era and Andy then plays the original version of the same song recorded 25-30 years earlier... often sound very different. Fun show to listen to... This track will be in the "Turn Back The Clock" Playlist on this podcast originating from Soundcloud.com

That swinging musical show for Armed Forces Radio, full of jazzy jive. Playlist: Ernie Whitman hosts, and calls on Jimmy Lunceford to kick things off with, Deep Rhythm. Tina Dixon…

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Duffy's Tavern on Forecast Audition July 29, 1940 CBS  Duffy's Tavern guest starring Milton Berle first broadcast January 5, 1943 on the Blue Network This is an Armed Forces Radio rebroadcast

We start off tonight with an episode of “Suspense” that isn't all that suspenseful, i.e. spooky.  But it's a lot of fun.  “The Lost Special” is based on a non-Sherlock Holmes story by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, which first appeared in “The Strand Magazine” in August, 1898.  Orson Welles narrates.  This is an Armed Forces Radio rebroadcast, which means the ads have been taken out.  It was played overseas for US troops.  Then, our guests on tonight's episode of the quiz show “Information Please” are science popularizer Bernard Jaffe and … Harpo Marx?  Yes.  The show revels in the sheer novelty of having Harpo, the one Marx Brother who doesn't speak, on a panel, and he still manages be witty and delightful.   Episodes Suspense September 30, 1943“The Lost Special”2:04  Information PleaseOctober 25, 1938 “Guests: Bernard Jaffe and Harpo Marx”33:18

Rebroadcast for the Armed Forces Radio, first song Down in Union County Original Air Date: June 17, 1944Host: Andrew RhynesShow: Grand Ole OpryPhone: (707) 98 OTRDW (6-8739) Special Guests:• Minnie Pearl• The Duke of Paducah Song List:• Down in Union County• Things that Might have Been• Home in San Antone• Red Wing• Beautiful Brown Eyes• […]

Audio Intro has concept of the show and the playlist of 4 songs in this broadcast that was "rebroadcast" by the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service in 1960. Virginia and Andy Mansfield play a contemporary song and then the original version of the same song which may have been recorded 15 to 33 years prior to 1960. Interesting to hear the differences in style for the same song. Playlist is "Turn Back the Clock"

Armed Forces Radio Theater 48-09-26 Fifth Avenue Girl

Exploring Tomorrow - Space Baby -Aka-The First Baby In Space From-1958 Announcer-Guy Wallace, with-Carol Teitel & Lawson Zerbe From Mutual, Armed Forces Radio & Television Service rebroadcast. "The Space Baby". Where do you find an incubator in a manned space station when one is needed in a hurry?

On this track is a Sci-Fi adventure story that was produced by the AFRS on Nov 6, 1955. The idea for "Destination Mars" was sent in by a listener as part of "Contest Theater"... a program that asked listeners to present their ideas for stories. If they were selected, popular actors of the time would be featured in a radio adaptation of the winning idea. Actor Dane Clark stars in this story of 4 astronauts, 3 men and a woman, who make the first trip to Mars... and were more than surprised at what they found there. This track will be stored in the "Sci-Fi" Playlist. The Armed Forces Radio Service evolved after World War II and by 1949, all of the wartime original AFRS programs had been discontinued and the then-renamed Armed Forces Radio and Television Service had grown their operations and studios to the TV media as well as radio. The AFRTS moved to Hollywood to Sun Valley in 1986 and then to March Air Base in Moreno Valley in 1995. Today, the American Forces Network (AFN) Broadcast Center, is a world-class facility and is the center of all AFRTS broadcasting activity.

This week, we have Death for Sale, an episode of Inner Sanctum. This episode was first broadcast over CBS on July 13, 1952. This recording is a rebroadcast by the Armed Forces Radio & Television Service and stars Boris Karloff. For more on Eye of Vengeance, visit https://brickpicklemedia.com/eye-of-vengeance/.

David Temple, a veteran of the radio and television industry, joined the show to talk about how he became a professional in the industry, his incredible next chapter as the host of The Thriller Zone, and a ton more!  About David: David enjoyed a prolific 25-year career in Radio, creating #1 Morning Shows in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Norfolk & Charlotte. Working in formats from Classic Rock to Soft Rock, and Hot Country to News/Talk, as well as on the Satellite Channels: Westwood One Radio and Armed Forces Radio, David spent "Chapter One" of his career building big audiences and loyal listeners.In his "Chapter Two," David acted in TV & Film. Television shows include: Discovery ID: Your Worst Nightmare, Army Wives, The Confession, Surface and One Tree Hill. Films include: Slice, Chasing Grace, Ace Wonder: Message from a Dead Man, Remember The Daze and The Ultimate Gift.Now in "Chapter Three," David merges a love of writing with his passion for podcasting. Learn more at: DavidTempleBooks.com and TheThrillerZone. For an even quicker & deeper dive, visit: bio.link/davidtempleSupport the show