Podcast appearances and mentions of Dan Brown

  Een waargebeurde Dan Brown of Umberto Eco. Een duistere kathedraal in een stad waar het altijd regent en mistig is, een omstreden religieuze leider, valse nonnen en een verdwenen manuscript.... Luisteren dus! Wil jij een PodcastHeld zijn? Dat kan! Geef me vijf sterren op Spotify of een duimpje op Podimo en volg me op Instagram, TikTok, of Youtube. Of koop mijn nieuwe boek! Nu ook verkrijgbaar als audioboek! Een besneeuwd kasteel, een vervloekte diamant, een gemaskerd bal, een onverklaarbare moord... Kom mee naar Kasteel De Haar. Als je durft... Mijn nieuwe boek is Moord in Kasteel de Haar. In dat boek worden Joop en Nettie, het dynamische duo uit De Moord op mr. Jacques Wijsman, door barones Hélène van Zuylen uitgenodigd op Kasteel de Haar.  Het hoogtepunt is een gemaskerd bal waar iedereen als Napoleon moet verschijnen. Tijdens het bal wordt één van de Napoleons vermoord. Wie heeft de trekker overgehaald en hebben ze eigenlijk wel de juiste Napoleon te grazen genomen? Als ze tot overmaat van ramp ingesneeuwd raken met de moordenaar moeten Joop, Nettie en Hélène zo snel mogelijk de moordenaar ontmaskeren... Ik groeide op in Haarzuilens, letterlijk om de hoek van het kasteel, heb er ook jaren als gids gewerkt. Het was altijd de droom om nog eens een boek te schrijven waarin barones Hélène allerlei avonturen zou beleven. Dit is dat boek. Sterker nog, de VIJFDE DRUK is net van de pers gerold!!! Moord in Kasteel de Haar is overal te koop, zoals Bol en Bruna, maar ook bij je lokale boekhandel zoals Boekhandel Van Kralingen in Breukelen!!!

Episodio 68 | Lula y la sombra de Bolsonaro — con Ana Tereza Duarte A días de la primera vuelta del 4 de octubre, la politóloga brasileña Ana Tereza Duarte analiza la contienda entre el presidente Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva y el senador Flávio Bolsonaro. Hablamos de por qué los logros económicos de Lula no se reflejan en las encuestas, de un candidato que vive pegado a la figura de su padre encarcelado, de la coalición de "la Biblia, la bala y el buey", del escándalo del Banco Master, de los aranceles de Estados Unidos que terminaron favoreciendo a Lula y de si la democracia brasileña se sostiene tras el intento de golpe. Ana Tereza Duarte es politóloga, profesora de la Facultade Central do Recife, con maestría y doctorado en ciencia política de la Universidade Federal de Pernambuco. Es miembro de la Red de Politólogas. Capítulos 00:00 Introducción 04:18 Bienvenida: de vuelta desde el Twitter Space de 2022 06:03 Trece candidatos, dos con posibilidades reales 07:36 Cómo llega Lula al 4 de octubre 09:22 ¿Puede Lula ganar en primera vuelta? 10:36 La controversia de los debates 12:02 La nostalgia como estrategia de campaña 14:50 Logros concretos, encuestas estancadas: el rechazo cruzado 17:09 ¿Pesa la edad de Lula? El PT y el mundo después de Lula 18:43 Flávio Bolsonaro: la copia sin carisma 21:00 La Biblia, la bala y el buey 22:19 Listas abiertas y un Congreso fragmentado 23:22 La batalla cultural en el centro de la campaña 25:59 Flávio y los BRICS 27:45 El escándalo del Banco Master 31:32 La intervención de Estados Unidos y los aranceles 35:04 Bad Bunny y la campaña de Lula 36:10 Qué dicen las encuestas y si se puede confiar en ellas 37:53 Las alianzas para la segunda vuelta 38:57 ¿Se sostiene la democracia en Brasil? 39:41 La apuesta de Ana Tereza 40:56 Recomendación de lectura Recomendación de lectura: El último secreto, de Dan Brown. Lee también: el perfil de Lula en el Substack de La Ventana PR → Lula contra todo Suscríbete y apoya este proyecto independiente: laventanapr.substack.com Sígueme en las redes sociales: Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, X, y TikTok.

The problems are mounting for Andy Burnham ahead of his first Labour Party Conference as Prime Minister.After a positive first two months in Downing Street, the economic picture is becoming more challenging. Government borrowing has risen, inflation is above 3% and the Government's fiscal headroom is under increasing pressure ahead of the October Budget.On the eve of Labour Party Conference in Liverpool, Northern Spin hosts Chris Maguire and Frank McKenna ask whether Burnham can turn the good vibes of his first weeks in office into the tough decisions demanded by government.Is he prepared to tackle politically difficult issues such as the pension triple lock, tax rises and welfare spending?Or was former Bank of England chief economist Andy Haldane right to warn that financial markets risk seeing Burnham's administration as a 'traditional tax and spend socialist government with better TikTok videos'? In this episode, Maguire and McKenna also discuss:Is the PM putting too many of his eggs in the devolution basket?What can we expect from October's Budget?Reform and the donations rowOur regional round-up from across the NorthAnd finally – who's on manoeuvres?Northern Spin is a joint production from BusinessCloud and Downtown in Business. The podcast is produced by Dan Brown of Renowned and sponsored by Sancus Lending UK.

Don Bentley returns to No Limits: The Thriller Podcast for a full, spoiler-packed conversation about Double Tap, the latest Mitch Rapp thriller.Warning: This episode contains major spoilers for Double Tap. Don and I go deep on the book's biggest twists, the return of familiar characters, Mitch Rapp's early evolution as an operative, the high-stakes deep-cover mission at the center of the story, and the choices that shape the novel's ending.We also discuss how Don approaches writing in Vince Flynn's world, the pressure and responsibility of continuing the Mitch Rapp legacy, and what it means to revisit this pivotal stage of Rapp's career with both longtime fans and new readers in mind.In Double Tap, a young Mitch Rapp goes undercover to stop a jihadi cell after a Pakistani chemical-weapons scientist is kidnapped in Verona—an event that reignites old vendettas and threatens to push the Middle East toward crisis.—

This episode of the Billy and Lisa Morning Show is a wild ride, full of laughs, surprises, and some serious discussions. The hosts dive into the iHeartRadio Music Festival, where they share their experiences and insights from the event, including a hilarious story about running into author Dan Brown in Vegas. They also discuss the latest news in music, sports, and pop culture, with a healthy dose of humor and banter.The hosts share their thoughts on the festival, where they saw some amazing performances, including BTS, Cardi B, and the Smashing Pumpkins. They also talk about the controversy surrounding Ed Sheeran's upcoming concert in Gillette, Massachusetts, and the importance of being aware of the issues in the world. The conversation is engaging, informative, and entertaining, making this episode a must-listen.The hosts also discuss some of the lighter side of life, including their personal preferences and quirks. They share their opinions on some of the most debated topics, such as pineapple on pizza, washing your legs in the shower, and the best way to sleep. The conversation is lighthearted and fun, but also thought-provoking.If you're looking for a podcast that's a little bit of everything, this episode of the Billy and Lisa Morning Show is a great choice. With its mix of music, news, and humor, it's a must-listen for anyone who wants to stay up-to-date on what's happening in the world. So grab your headphones and tune in to hear the full episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Don Bentley joins us to talk about Double Tap, the latest Mitch Rapp thriller and his newest entry in Vince Flynn's bestselling series.In this spoiler-free conversation, Don discusses writing a younger Mitch Rapp, continuing the American Assassin era of the series, and bringing familiar characters back into Rapp's world. We also talk about the challenge of honoring what longtime Vince Flynn readers love while giving this early chapter of Mitch's career its own urgency, danger, and emotional stakes.Double Tap sends young CIA operative Mitch Rapp on his first deep-cover mission as he confronts a terrorist organization pursuing chemical weapons—while old alliances, enemies, and vendettas begin to collide. The novel continues the story immediately after Denied Access and arrives September 22, 2026.—

POILER WARNING: This full-spoiler interview with husband-and-wife co-authors K.B. Brodsky contains major spoilers for Beyond Honor.We discuss the biggest twists in Beyond Honor, its high-stakes “don't get caught” tension, the emotional pull of “only I can save him,” and what it is like to write a thriller together as married co-authors.If you have finished Beyond Honor, join us for an in-depth conversation about its characters, suspense, motivations, pivotal choices, and the moments we can finally discuss openly. We also explore the writing process behind the book, co-author collaboration, and how the team builds a thriller in which danger, trust, and survival are constantly in question.—

How do you distinguish “highbrow” from “lowbrow” books? Does a highbrow book imply it's better than other books? Host Jacob Shymanski and guest Red Szell explore the division between the two concepts and deconstruct its relevancy in modern day. Books mentioned in this episode include: • “The Da Vinci Code” by Dan Brown• “Dungeon Crawler Carl” series by Matt Dinniman• “To Kill a Mockingbird” by Harper Lee• “Moby-Dick” by Herman Melville• “Finnegans Wake” by James Joyce• “Infinite Jest” by David Foster Wallace• “Mrs. Dalloway” by Virginia Woolf• “Dracula” by Bram StokerThis episode was produced Andrika De Lanerolle Audiobook Café broadcasts on AMI-audio in Canada and publishes two back-to-back podcast episodes every Friday at 5 p.m. ET. Follow Audiobook Café on Instagram @AMIAudiobookCafe We want your feedback!Be that comments, suggestions, hot-takes, audiobook recommendations or reviews of your own… hit us up! Our email address is: AudiobookCafe@ami.ca About AMIAMI is a media company that entertains, informs and empowers Canadians with disabilities through three broadcast services — AMI-tv and AMI-audio in English and AMI-télé in French — and streaming platform AMI+. Our vision is to establish AMI as a leader in the offering of accessible content, providing a voice for Canadians with disabilities through authentic storytelling, representation and positive portrayal. To learn more visit AMI.ca and AMItele.ca.Find more great AMI Original Content on AMI+Learn more at AMI.caConnect with Accessible Media Inc. online:Instagram @AccessibleMediaInc / @AMI-audioFacebook at @AccessibleMediaIncTikTok @AccessibleMediaInc Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this week's From-the-Patreon-Vault episode, we bring it all home with Breaking Dawn AND Midnight Sun (because we're monsters, Bella!). Topics include “having a hair up your butt”, the end of an era(s tour), the imprinting on a baby of it all, the unnecessary length of Midnight Sun (and how it does Bella both dirty…and…well? ugh), Edward's self-loathing, good ol' Rigatoni, what our vampire powers would be, the enigma that is Stephenie Meyer, and the legacy of the Twilight Saga.This month's cocktail: Born to be a VampireINGREDIENTS:Sparkling red wineEdible glitterINSTRUCTIONS:Pour yourself a big glass of red wine, sparkling if you can get itAdd more sparkle with edible glitterSip and bask in the knowledge that you vamp better than anyone elseWell, it's been a real slice, folks. Thanks for coming along on this journey with us! Join us next time as Kayla returns from maternity leave and we read The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown.

Across many parts of the world, data center investment is being blocked due to community opposition. In this podcast, Ashurst Perkins Coie’s Elena Lambros and Dan Brown reflect on the lessons for data center developers and financiers in Australia. Together, Dan and Elena reflect on the eye watering sums of data center investment dollars that have been stalled or withdrawn in the US and UK recently. They explain how governments are responding to community concerns around energy and water consumption. And most importantly, they consider potential solutions that could benefit people and planet, as well as profit. In the context of Australia, Dan and Elena explain how old fossil-fuel powered station sites could be repurposed to house data centers – offering developers pre-existing water, transmission and fiber infrastructure on sites already permitted under stringent environmental standards. They also highlight the benefits of clear, transparent community engagement for all data center developments. And they explain why a single, coherent fact base for ESG performance would benefit the data center industry, as well as the communities they serve. Check out past and future episodes of Nearing Net Zero on the Ashurst Perkins Coie website. And subscribe to ESG Matters by Ashurst Perkins Coie wherever you get your podcasts. The information provided is not intended to be a comprehensive review of all developments in law or practice, or to cover every aspect of the topics discussed. Listeners should obtain legal advice before applying it to specific issues or transactions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

K.B. Brodsky return to No Limits: The Thriller Podcast on their publication day for a spoiler-free discussion of Beyond Honor, an emotionally rich, high-stakes spy thriller that may be one of the best books of 2026.Karen and Bill Brodsky, who write together as K.B. Brodsky, take us inside the creation of Beyond Honor—from the tensions and rewards of co-writing as a husband-and-wife team to building a novel that combines espionage, suspense, and genuine emotional weight.In this conversation, we discuss:How Karen and Bill co-write fiction as a married couple—and how two creative voices become one cohesive novelThe process of developing Beyond Honor as a propulsive spy thrillerWhy character emotion matters just as much as plot, tradecraft, and international intrigueThe characters' journeys, personal stakes, relationships, and arcs—without revealing key plot developmentsWhat makes espionage fiction endure and why a great spy novel needs readers to care deeply about the people at its centerWhy Beyond Honor is a standout thriller read for 2026If you enjoy intelligent spy novels, espionage thrillers, morally complex characters, and stories where the emotional consequences of danger matter as much as the action, this interview is for you.—

Han cantado bingo es una novela inclasificable. Y un éxito inesperado, sobre todo, para su autora, Lana Corujo, una diseñadora gráfica canaria que se remonta en esta historia al territorio a veces oscuro de la infancia para entregarnos un texto impregnado de ternura, sensibilidad y emoción. En este Club intentamos explicar las razones de este fenómeno editorial publicado por Reservoir Books.Y hablando de truenos literarios, quién no puede pensar en El Código Da Vinci. Han pasado más de 20 años de la publicación de una novela que fue vapuleada por la crítica, y sin embargo, ha vendido 80 millones de ejemplares en todo el mundo. ¿Cómo trabaja Dan Brown?En la sección de Audiolibros, La tabla de Flandes, una de las primeras novelas de Arturo Pérez-Reverte. Entre las novedades que trae el trimestre, la nueva novela de Carmen Mola. Los huérfanos es el título.

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Jon thinks things are quiet ... maybe too quiet. David ponders the RNC midterm convention. Support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/electionprofitmakers Send questions and comments to contact@electionprofitmakers.com GET YOUR WAR ON live show tickets: http://bit.ly/getyourwaron25 Watch David's show DICKTOWN on Hulu http://bit.ly/dicktown Follow Jon on Bluesky http://bit.ly/bIuesky

Biological War: A Scenario by Annie Jacobsen is the subject of this spoiler book review from No Limits: The Thriller Podcast. Chris and Mike break down Jacobsen's terrifying nonfiction scenario about an engineered biological weapon, a fast-moving plague, and the systems meant to stop a global catastrophe.How does Biological War compare with Nuclear War: A Scenario? Does Annie Jacobsen successfully combine deeply researched journalism with the propulsive pacing of a thriller—or does the book's apocalyptic vision become too bleak to feel believable?—

Send us Fan MailSeptember 1, 2026About 62% of American adults call themselves Christians.  Almost all recite the Nicene Creed once a month but virtually none of them know anything about what it  says or where it comes from.  Now, after 1700 years, Dan Brown writes The Da Vinci code which promotes six falsehoods.  Being a former Christian who continues to wonder about the imponderables of the Christian faith, I have recorded this podcast to shed just a little light on an extremely complex and puzzling subject. Below, please find an order form for Christmas chocolates.  I will be shipping chocolates starting on October 1, allowing the El Niño disaster to calm down a bit.   Listen to Podcast 66-->https://www.buzzsprout.com/1057903/episodes/19732175Support the showWrite to me at  twneuhaus@gmail.comTo learn more, visit  http://www.projecthopeandfairness.org

Send us Fan MailSimon and Lee start off sleepy and a little weepy, which somehow tips into a debate about the line between pornography and eroticism, sparked by the Heated Rivalry novels Bob bought Lee for his birthday (which, they discover, started life as Bucky Barnes/Captain America slash fiction). From there it's kettlebells, sarcopenia, and shirtless YouTube fitness bros neither of them can bear to watch, before Lee reports that Bob's own kettlebell-honed solidity got tested by a phone-distracted man who shoulder-checked her on a London street – and didn't move. It closes on who gets to take up space and who doesn't, from Coventry's lime bike gangs to the rarity of ever seeing a pack of women do the same.MentionedThe Empire Strikes Back (Star Wars) – Harrison Ford's sequel to the original film; invoked as a comparison for writing a hit follow-upThe Da Vinci Code / Angels & Demons (Dan Brown) – blockbuster novels; used as another sequel comparison, with mock embarrassment at picking the less-loved oneDan Lepard – baker and food writer; arrives as a punning mishearing of "Dan Brown" and becomes its own jokeDan Brown's latest novel – unnamed page-turner about consciousness, featuring his recurring Robert Langdon character (described as "the same Tom Hanks character")Heated Rivalry (Rachel Reid) – romance novel series, a birthday gift; discussed as having started life as Bucky Barnes/Captain America slash fiction before becoming an original hockey romanceStar Trek – Kirk and Spock's relationship is cited as the origin of the term "slash fiction"Swedish death cleaning – decluttering philosophy; referenced in a joke about a now-discarded handmade cassette collection Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner – actors who played Spock and Kirk; clarified that their characters never had an on-screen romanceCaptain America / Bucky Barnes / Winter Soldier (Marvel) – the fictional pairing behind Heated Rivalry's fan-fiction originsChatGPT – joked about as a possible personal trainer YouTube and Instagram – named as the real source of workout routines, alongside a complaint about shirtless fitness influencersLime – e-bike share scheme; its riders in Coventry prompt a discussion about groups occupying street spaceBack to the Future – referenced via its high school principal character while describing a run-in with a pack of e-bike ridersGet in touch with Lee and Simon at info@midlifing.net. ---The Midlifing logo is adapted from an original image by H.L.I.T: https://www.flickr.com/photos/29311691@N05/8571921679 (CC BY 2.0)

Het eerste deel van een historische mysterie-serie vol intriges, geheimen en onverwachte plotwendingen en onopgeloste raadsels, van de vrouwelijke Dan Brown. Uitgegeven door Oceaan Spreker: Jorien Zeevaart

Guy Morris has led an extraordinary life. After escaping an abusive childhood at age 13 to become a homeless runaway, Guy worked alongside migrant workers before he earned three degrees by age 25, including acceptance to Harvard MBA and a scholarship from University of Arizona. Recognized for his innovations in building a macro-economic that out-performed the Federal Reserve and change how economic models are still built. After working with IBM and Burroughs in main frame computer manufacturing, his career led him to international Occidental Petroleum where he pioneered adoption of early-stage AI called expert systems and worked in strategy, operations, capital planning, and M&A deals worth billions. Guy can also speak to leadership roles at IBM, Oracle, and Microsoft, as well as start-ups he either founded or led. A respected thought-leader and innovator, Guy has led high-performance teams to push the boundaries. A talented musician and composer, Guy has recorded multiple CDs and wrote songs published by Disney Records. His adventures led him from receiving cartel death threats in Latin America to shark diving in Moorea – from boardroom politics impacting early climate change studies to raising his son aboard a 50-foot sailing yacht with a charter captain's and PADI divers license. Now, a multiple award winning author of thrillers, most often compared to Dan Brown, every one of his stories and characters pull from a rich life of diverse experiences grounded with deep, deep research.  Gold Book Award. Silver Book Award. Literary Excellence Award. International Impact Award and Finalist Impact Author of the Year. His nonfiction book, The AI Tsunami - A Survival Guide for Humanity provides guidance to individuals and small business owners on how to survive and thrive the comings waves of change. His thrillers are deeply researched and thought provoking covering technology, advanced sciences, political corruption, economics, history, religion and archaeology.Guy strives to write books that thrill, educate, and inspire thoughtful dialogue on genuine issues facing humanity.

In this week's episode of No Limits: The Thriller Podcast, Chris and Mike go nuclear as they break down Annie Jacobsen's terrifying nonfiction book, Nuclear War: A Scenario.Join us as we step inside the war room to examine the harrowing 72-minute timeline from an initial missile launch to global obliteration. Does Jacobsen successfully blend deeply researched journalism with the pacing of a thriller—or does the book struggle to decide what it wants to be?Topics we cover:The reality of “launch-on-warning” policies—and how split-second decisions could doom the planetMissile defense systems, the illusion of control, and whether anyone can truly stop an incoming attackThe long-term consequences of an EMP attack on modern infrastructureWhy surviving the initial blast could be worse than dying in itWhether Nuclear War is the ultimate cautionary tale or a bleak exercise in determinism—

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How can you tell where the real innovation in publishing is happening right now, and why is it emerging from the indie side first? How do you market your own book when you've spent 35 years marketing everyone else's? John Bond talks about Going Indie and what he's learned about authors who last. In the intro, my thoughts on writing with AI, Charles Dickens and encouragement for the 3-year-old dancing to K-Pop at the wedding, UK copyright law, The end of an era — Hugh Howey; Notre Dame, Paris; Today's show is sponsored by Bookfunnel, the essential tool for your author business. Whether it's delivering your reader magnet, sending out advanced copies of your book, handing out ebooks at a conference, or fulfilling your digital sales to readers, BookFunnel does it all. Check it out at bookfunnel.com/thecreativepenn This show is also supported by my Patrons. Join my Community at Patreon.com/thecreativepenn John Bond is the co-founder of Whitefox, a premium publishing services agency, and has over 35 years in traditional publishing, from bookselling to marketing and management. He's also the co-author of Going Indie: Publishing Your Book Your Way, with James Silver. You can listen above or on your favorite podcast app or read the notes and links below. Here are the highlights and the full transcript is below. Show Notes Why 2012 was a watershed moment for publishing in the UK Whether the snobbery around self-publishing has finally gone How to co-write a book with someone, and why there's no formula The pride swallowing involved in getting endorsement quotes for your own book The shadow economy of indie sales that no industry chart measures The hallmarks of writers who build a long-term career You can find John at wearewhitefox.com. Transcript of the interview with John Bond Jo: John Bond is the co-founder of Whitefox, a premium publishing services agency, and has over 35 years in traditional publishing, from bookselling to marketing and management. He's also the co-author of Going Indie: Publishing Your Book Your Way, with James Silver. So welcome back to the show, John. John: Thank you, Jo. Thanks so much for having me. Jo: You were last on the show in 2022. You've been on a couple of times, but just set the scene. Tell people a bit more about you and your long background in publishing. John: I suppose I could say I started as a marketing manager at Penguin back in the early 1990s in London, and that role eventually evolved into running sales and marketing, as it often does. I did that at Penguin and at HarperCollins. Then I ran one of the publishing divisions at HarperCollins, including 4th Estate, and published Hilary Mantel and Jonathan Franzen and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and others. I left that in 2011 and set up Whitefox in 2012, and it's a classic startup story. It was somebody I worked with at HarperCollins. We sat around a kitchen table, came up with an idea for a business, which was Whitefox, and that's grown into the creative agency that it is today. Jo: So back then, did you think, “I can do this better”? Was that the impetus, “I can do publishing better than Penguin and HarperCollins”? John: No, I thought we would solve a problem. There's something very attractive about that whole startup mentality and beginning something from scratch. I mean, I was in my early 50s. I'd had a long career in traditional publishing. On the plus side, I knew a lot of people, and I thought I could get meetings, people would reply to my phone calls or my emails. On the downside, I didn't necessarily have the energy of a 20 to 25-year-old. I knew a lot of people and I knew quite a lot of things, and I also knew what problems something like Whitefox could solve. We set up with this idea that if we could galvanise and organise the diaspora of freelancers in the publishing space and make them available to anybody that wanted to make a book, that that would be quite a powerful thing. These incredibly creative, wonderful people who were below the radar and were not particularly valued or managed or utilised properly. I thought if we could access that and make that available not just to traditional publishing people who know about these people, but to individual authors, businesses, brands, people that wanted to make a book, and if you added a layer of our expertise from traditional publishing, that could be quite powerful, I suppose. That's what I was thinking back then. Jo: It's funny, though. You said these wonderful freelancers who were not particularly valued or managed or utilised properly. That could also apply to a lot of authors in traditional publishing. John: Totally. Totally. But if I'm honest, I don't think I was thinking about that. What's really evolved since we started, even in that 2011, 2012 period, is so much has happened to independent writers, indie authors. The whole ecosystem has become much more vibrant, and what is accessible to those writers is much greater. I'd like to think we've played a part in that. What that's done is put power back into writers' hands, and that quickly became apparent in the business as a byproduct of what we'd set up. Jo: Yes, and 2012 I do think in the UK was a pivot point, because I got into self-publishing in 2006/2007 when the Americans did with the beginning of the Kindle and the iPhone. Really the American ecosystem grew first. I happened to be in Australia, and so I think I was able to escape the negativity of the vortex in the UK, which took a number more years to embrace self-publishing as a force to be reckoned with as opposed to an embarrassing thing in the corner for vanity press. Do you see 2012 as a changing point in UK publishing? John: I think we'd just come out of the Kindle moment, hadn't we? There were all sorts of conversations going on about how that was going to change things forever. I think no one quite knew what the upshot of that was going to be, but we knew that it was incredibly disruptive. In 2012, Penguin, as it was then, before Penguin Random House, had offered to buy Author Solutions for $115 million, presumably seen as some kind of defensive measure as to what the market was going to evolve into. I think it felt like a real period of change. In the UK, James Daunt took over running Waterstones, and he was then ultimately going to run Barnes & Noble. It felt like a bit of a watershed. I think we were lucky in that sense, that maybe in the UK and in London, what we were creating coincided with an opening up of opportunity and creativity, and people wanting access to more tools to be able to do things themselves. Getting this idea that you invest in your own talent and what that could mean for your ability to do things quicker, better. Some of it was happenstance, but lucky for us. As you say, we then became aware that in a sense a lot of these things had come to fruition earlier on the US side. In London, that whole idea of setting up something that wasn't a traditional rights-owning model, but where you wanted to be working with people creatively, felt actually really exciting and timely. Jo: And when you started to work with independent authors, probably a couple of years after that, you started to work with a lot more indie authors and things really started to change in terms of the business side. Did you feel any of the snobbery from the traditional industry? Like you mentioned, you have a lot of contacts, a lot of connections. I came to your wonderful launch party and there were just people from all over the industry. I wondered if you got any kickback, or if anyone raised their eyebrows a little bit at who you were choosing to work with? John: Oh, definitely. And I would say I really think that's gone. You may think differently, Jo, but from my perspective, I think there has been such an evolution in the nearly 15 years that we've been going. So any of that residual snobbery, looking down your nose at people that were going DIY, producing multiple books, learning from every single publication. We've spoken about this before. I remember you sat on the panel of a FutureBook conference in the UK, which was run by a trade magazine, with this idea of looking at the, in quotes, “digital future of the business.” It felt like there were a lot of things being talked about, but not a lot of action on the traditional side. I suppose some sort of awe that there was some magic going on with people who were making a success of self-publishing. But then quite a lot of people looking down their noses at things that shouldn't get through the gatekeepers. I do think that's gone. Or if it's not completely gone, I can see it on the way out of the door, because there's no room for that when agents are struggling to sell books to publishers because publishers are looking at the next indie author, the next Freida McFadden, the next Sarah J. Maas, the next Rebecca Yarros. So whoever it may be, or wherever they're publishing, whatever they're doing now, wherever they may be, knowing that a lot of those people will already be publishing and be on not their first, second, third or fourth, but potentially their 10th or 11th book. It's a race to see who can help those authors, as a traditional publisher would see it, amplify what they're doing. I think the idea that there's an us and them, if it did exist then, which it certainly did in certain publishing quarters, is gone. I used to go to those conferences, like the FutureBook Conference, and certain publishers would talk about publishing, and when they meant publishing, they meant a really tiny area of quite literary, traditional imprints. That's what publishing meant. They didn't even mean publishing to mean educational publishing, or children's publishing, or academic publishing, and certainly not Kindle or POD or whatever. So I think that's had to change for very good, sound, commercial, economic reasons. Jo: Yes, you're right. I definitely have heard, as we go to similar events sometimes, and you do hear agents used to talk a lot more about finding books very occasionally in a slush pile, or doing courses so you could meet people and do pitch events and all this. Now it's often build an audience on BookTok or whatever, and sell lots of books, and traditional publishing as an amplifier, as you said. That's how I always hear them pitch it now, the question of— What can traditional publishing still do when indie authors can do so much? It does seem to be, well, we can amplify you, we can get you into traditional press, we can get you in traditional bookstores, we can help you with film and movie deals, that kind of thing. So that's really interesting, because that's actually changed quite a lot. They don't now seem to say, “Oh, well, we can make sure we pay you,” or, “We are editorial success as such.” John: I think they don't say editorial success or quality or indeed marketing, because that was what used to be said. I think there's an understanding that a lot of indie writers are better marketeers of their own books than traditional publishers, and if you go into the publishing machine, then you'll get your slot. It lasts for a certain period of time and then that moves on to another book. Whereas obviously if you're writing your own book and you're marketing your own book, you're able to do that yourself 24/7 wherever you are in the world, and you will know more about your readers and your audience and how that evolves than a traditional publisher would. What they probably mean now is, as you said, as much as anything, distribution, or even physical distribution. Because to be part of that process, I think that is still where a large conglomerate is able to wield some muscle, with this idea that if you physically want to see your book in bricks and mortar retailers in X outlets around the world, that's potentially easier to do if that is your aim, via a traditional publisher. So it is constantly evolving, because it used to be that marketing was the silver bullet, and I don't think that's the case anymore. Jo: No. We'll come back to marketing, shall we? Struggling with marketing. So let's get into your book. You recently co-wrote Going Indie with James Silver, Publishing Your Book Your Way. Obviously you already knew a lot about indie authors, so I wonder, what did you discover in the process of researching the book and the interviews you did? And I was one of your interviews. Did anything come up that surprised you, since you're already pretty embedded in the world? John: I would say some of it was reinforcing what I knew. So how everything is so intertwined, how in some ways unlinear everything is. People are doing lots of things in a different order to the way that traditionally writers would perceive this relay race of a manuscript gets passed to an editor, an editor passes on. That's just not how it is or needs to be anymore. I still think there is—not even a misconception—but I think there's a received wisdom that when you're talking about self-publishing, you're talking about fiction. The majority of books that Whitefox produces are not fiction, they're non-fiction. Some of them are quite mainstream, some of them are quite niche. That idea of connecting to your audience and your followers, and being slightly more scientific about how you find readers in your non-fiction niche, I think is still unspoken about in a way, in that genre fiction tends to be what people automatically assume the conversation is about. This probably doesn't surprise you, but I was pleasantly surprised to have it confirmed to me quite how much swapping and sharing there is of skills and knowledge in that space. I'm not saying indie writing is egoless at all, but there's quite a lot of sharing of knowledge and what works, and collaboration, which I think is great to see. Again, if you've, as I did many years ago, come out of corporate conglomerate publishing, traditional publishing, there's less of that by the very nature of the kind of organisation. And look, we just talked about marketing a little while ago. I do think this whole idea that the cutting edge of experimentation, it's not traditional publishing, it's indie writers. They are looking at not just how to find readers, but how to fulfil orders, how to make commercial sense of what they're doing from the absolute outset and get-go of what they're doing. And just how now the lines are blurring between what would be classified as traditional digital publishers and the writers who are doing their own thing, or doing their own thing on behalf of a few other writers. Those lines have completely blurred. There used to be this traditional hardback, paperback, X number of books a year, a year after hardback there's a paperback. This is the model we have been doing for centuries, and people doing things on their own. I think that's blurring massively, and the Venn diagrams of people's areas of expertise are just overlapping massively. Jo: Well, I think you're right there, and certainly the hardback special editions with sprayed edges and foil. A lot of us now are doing that first and not putting out the other, or putting out the rest of it at the same time. I dare say probably there are more indie authors with sprayed edge hardbacks than there are traditionally published authors. John: I'm sure that's right. And what's interesting is if you go to a traditional book printer, they are loving the direct communication with writers, that's not coming through traditional channels and traditional relationships. It's great business, it's interesting. I think that's something that's even developed in the last couple of years, that cutting out of some of the middle men required. Jo: Yes, and in terms of supporting freelancers and small publishing houses and printers and stuff, the other thing I've heard is that indie authors pay upfront, or they pay quickly, compared to some of these big publishers who are asking for long lead times and steep discounting. So actually a lot of these independent businesses are doing better under indie author work than they were under traditional. John: I think that's right, and that's what I mean also about the sharing of information and this collaborative idea of sharing creative knowledge. I mean, I'm making it sound like a kind of 19th century cooperative, which it isn't. I'm not suggesting that for a second. It's this idea that there's a lot of people learning a lot of things and there's a keenness to share some of that information, because if you've developed your own readership for your unique creative product, some of those learnings are very exciting. The printers I've spoken to love working on those kinds of things, because they are also being challenged to come up with new ways of developing ever more innovative physical product. Jo: Yes, I think it's a fun, creative time for sure. Things like Kickstarter, which you came on and talked about crowdfunding years ago, and I've obviously done. I think, what am I on now? Seven? I've just done my seventh. John: Wow. Jo: It's so much fun. But now what's happening is traditional publishers are arriving on Kickstarter and all that kind of thing. So we really see a blurring. Let's come back to your book, so Going Indie. You co-wrote it. Now obviously there are lots of positive sides of collaboration, but in terms of any challenges with collaboration and co-writing and the writing process of doing this? Because I've done this several times and I've found it very challenging. So tell us about the collaborative writing process. John: We thought a lot about it before we took it on. What I would say, having done it, is I am assuming there is no formula for how you do this. At Penguin I worked with a married couple who were crime writers, and they wrote books together. They merged their names so it appeared to be one name. I could not tell you, and they didn't share what that process was, whether they were writing different chapters or … I don't know. So I can only speak from my own experience. James is an established journalist. He's great with deadlines. He was very good at chivvying me along when I needed to be persuaded to hit the deadlines that I'd promised. I write blogs, I write newsletters, I write content for our website, but this is my first book. I've never written anything of this length. So in a way it started with the structure. It started with this idea that we would play to what we perceived as our respective strengths in terms of writing. We absolutely were not each writing every third word or anything like that. It was a process of trust in different parts. I thought, James had done some research and will be better at writing that. He deferred to me on areas that he took to be my areas of expertise. We did every interview for the book together. We went over the notes from those before they became part of the interviews for the book. And some of the book's elements are diagrammatic, so those are very easy to collaborate on. I think we tried to be professionally, creatively constructive with each other. So it was raising an eyebrow rather than shouting at each other if we didn't agree about something. A lot of it was down to the editing, and I don't know what your experience was like with a co-writer, but a lot of it came down to: here is something which is quite baggy. How do we, between us, make this as tight as we possibly can? I don't mean copy editing or proofreading. I mean the actual sort of, how do we get this into a pithy, usable, practical but discursive book? We didn't ever set out for this to be a pure reference book at all. We wanted to take a snapshot of what was going on. So a lot of it was genuinely trying to do some research and get people to feed into what was going on from lots of different perspectives, which is why we wanted to get mainstream traditional publishers, we wanted to get agents, we wanted to get indie writers, we wanted to get people who have all sorts of experiences and perspectives. That's what makes it what it is, which is, here's what we think are some of the interesting discussion points of what's going on now. Jo: It is a fantastic snapshot. I think it's really interesting—and obviously you also have seen my book, Successful Self-Publishing, which is on its fourth edition—this is one of the difficult things with snapshot type books. So have you already thought about that? I know this one has just come out, but have you thought, “Oh no, in five years we have to do it again”? John: Well, I think we thought we're going to have to address AI, which we do in the book, and we really tried to caveat that with saying, look, so much may change so quickly, and here we are talking about what we know now. We obviously tried to set the context for where we are now, and we tried as much as possible to make something which would last as long as we can. I think what we did think was, we have tried to make it as international a perspective as possible. But at the same time, we are a London-based agency, and a lot of the views will be from people based in the UK. So I think what I would like to explore is something that looks at potentially somewhere like the US, where I think there'll be different people that would perhaps have different perspectives on different things. So I think we thought about potentially there being future iterations of the book, but not yet. Jo: Not yet. This is the challenge with non-fiction, of course. On that, I would say what you just said around the US and stuff, the successful UK authors all use the same systems as the US. So I wouldn't say that the US … I mean, we all have the US companies we all use. I say Kobo is obviously Canadian, but I would say that we use the same ways of doing things. Obviously you might interview a different author, but … John: That was all I meant. I meant interviewing. Because we've interviewed agents and authors and publishers and they are largely UK based. So it was the idea that maybe there are some perspectives on things rather than systemic. Jo: Differences. John: Yes. Just that. Jo: So then I guess another challenge, we've kind of nodded to it so far, is marketing. So let's talk about the challenges of getting this book out in terms of publishing and marketing. Because you've been on the inner circle side, trying to do that for other people's books, but your own book, this is a whole nother thing. So tell us about that. John: Well, how do you do it, Jo? I mean, honestly, I've loved some of it. I get how you become completely obsessed with your book and trying to make sure that you can get it into the hands of the people that you want to get it into the hands of. We've got some great endorsement quotes, which was a task that, how can I say this? I would call it pride swallowing. The idea that you really try and get people to say nice things about your book and, if they don't reply, you think, “How much do I pester them? How much do I annoy them by asking them again nicely?” And the absolute sheer unadulterated joy when they come back with something positive that you can use and utilise in some way. So that whole process of waiting for feedback, I suppose, and hoping that people are going to like what you've done and help you spread the word for it. We had a launch event, we've given books away. We've published the book as ebook and POD. I think one of the great things about that is it's enabled us to be completely adaptable and make changes right up until the last minute. That drove everybody in my team completely crazy because we were making changes up until the last minute. So, is the book definitely going to be available on publication date? What's it going to do? You know, all of that kind of stuff. Also, just getting this idea that I suppose you can never stop. Is that a very obvious thing to say to a writer? It probably is. You just can't stop, because if you go, “Right, well, I've done it,” complacency is the enemy. Just as soon as you've got that quote, or someone said that they're going to give you an opportunity to talk about it on a platform, it's just another day and you've got to keep thinking about how you can spread the word and tell people that it exists. Jo: Yes, well, I think that's right, and particularly non-fiction, which unless it's very timely and you must get it out right now. But other than that— Most books you just have to keep marketing for years. Then just as you say, when do you stop? Well, you kind of never stop unless you want to, unless you want to retire and just give up, basically. Dean Wesley Smith, who's a big writer in the US and a kind of a mentor of mine in past years, he talks about it as this massive sea of books. And when a book arrives, he pictures it coming down and landing on the water. So the day you launch, it's landed on the water, and then it begins to sink. Then there are all these other books coming down. It's like this rain of books, and your book is sinking as soon as it lands. And your job is to keep it afloat somehow. John: Keep it afloat. Jo: Yes. John: I think you're right, and it's such an interesting perspective for us, who work with a lot of people who have one book. You know, they've spent 10 years writing it. It's their life story. It's their memoir. It's their self-help book. It's their book that accompanies them on their speaking journey, or whatever. Then there are the people who are writing constantly and can't stop writing because they're exercising that creative muscle all the time and wanting to get better, and wanting to improve and learn and understand why this works and why that hasn't worked. Just getting a glimpse into what it must be like for that person for whom writing is not a hobby. I kept saying to myself, “This is not something you're doing as a hobby.” I want this book to be of value to people, and if I'm investing that time and effort into something that I want to get out there, you've got to commit to whatever it is you need to do to make sure you're not sinking. Jo: Yes. John: I will now not be able to get that image out of my head. Jo: Yes. I know there's people listening who don't have a mind's eye, which I always find fascinating, but for those of us with a mind's eye, you can now picture that and you will never forget it. The other thing, I guess, is that, having done a lot, over 40 books now, the inevitable thing is you cannot keep pushing all of those books back up to the surface. So when you do get the bug as such of writing, the most interesting thing for all of us is always the next book. It's always like, ooh, the next thing I'm doing, I'm very excited about. So you do have to pick your battles on marketing. So have you got the bug, do you think? Are you thinking of other books in general? Because as you said, you must be, I guess, in your 60s. John: I am. Jo: You could retire. John: I am. You were talking about that long career. I could. I mean, I really love doing it, and I would love to do more. I think one of the things that surprised me was just how many ideas came up while we were doing the book about tangents that one could take it. I have no desire to write a novel. I don't want to do that. I wouldn't be very good at that. I do think there are some interesting spaces around where there's a kind of intersection of creativity and learning, and how you can develop books that would help people who are trying to achieve different things in different sectors of publishing. So without getting too granular about it, this book doesn't really address brands who want to become publishers, and I think that is something that our business has developed into working with, not just individuals, but businesses and brands. I think there's definitely spin-offs of this book which are not about repeating what we've done so far. And this whole idea of what you've been doing for a long time, what we've been doing since 2011, 2012, it's evolving now at such a speed. I mean, who would have known what was going to come out of TikTok? As you talk about TikTok to Shopify, that whole kind of new ways of finding readers, of taking books to market. As you said, Kickstarter, crowdfunding. There's all sorts of things that I think will emerge, because in a funny sort of way traditional publishing at the moment feels quite conservative with a small c. I mean, the bestsellers. Dan Brown is number one in the bestseller list this week in the UK as I speak, who has been a bestseller forever. And obviously new writers come along the whole time, but the market feels a little bit as if it's waiting now for innovation. I think if that innovation's going to happen, it's probably going to happen in the indie space before it happens in mainstream publishing. So people are coming to us and thinking, does that represent a trend? Does that represent something which could be a way of looking at something a little bit deeper, doing some research around and creating something which is not a long book, not a massive thesis, but something which is indicative of something which could be useful for people. Jo: Just coming back on the Dan Brown is in the bestseller list. I think this is completely to do with the way that traditional publishing measures things. For many years, more than a decade, probably since the beginning of Kindle, certainly the beginning of Kindle Unlimited, there is a shadow economy, I call it, or a parallel economy. I would say that almost zero of my own personal sales are measured by any industry standards. Anyone who makes any money from Kindle Unlimited or Kickstarter or Shopify, or selling direct in any form, or selling books at conventions, none of this is measured by any traditional things. As you know, the New York Times list, for example, does not include Amazon sales in their bestseller list. So you've got indie authors in the UK who are incredibly successful who have to decide, say, someone like LJ Ross, for example, decides, “Okay, I'm going to set up a proper imprint with Gardners or whatever so that I can get in bookstores so that I can hit a Sunday Times list or something.” So I would say that seeing things like Dan Brown on a bestseller list has almost no meaning in the shadow indie economy. John: No, you're absolutely right. We're not even able to see audiobook sales. Jo: Yes, audio. Any kind of borrows, like Spotify. John: No, you're completely right. I suppose I was making a broader cultural point, that it doesn't feel like there's an enormous amount of innovation going on or risk taking within what I would call mainstream trade publishing. And there doesn't seem to be the need to be, because there will be more consolidation. Small companies will be bought by big companies, so there's growth through acquisition. There's still a hope that something will take off that is a surprise, and there's still an enormous reliance on established brands who, even through the traditional metrics of how you measure them, are probably selling less, but still at the top of the pile. I suppose that's what I was meaning. Jo: Yes, and I agree with what the industry looks at as signals. It's just, as we said, a lot of these signals are invisible. So coming onto innovation, at London Book Fair this year there were a lot of sessions on AI, and you mentioned AI briefly, and there is a chapter in Going Indie on generative AI. And of course there's a lot of negativity and drama and lawsuits and this, that and the other. But at the same time, at London Book Fair, a lot of traditional publishers talking about using it, and of course they always say, “Oh, we use AI only in marketing and business, not with the creative or editorial.” Everyone makes this distinction. What are your thoughts on what's happening and where's it going with AI? Is a lot of this stuff not happening in public and just going on behind closed doors? John: I think so. We do have a chapter in the book on AI. We've generated summaries of every chapter using AI, which we explicitly said in the book as well. We've got our Ten Commandments of what we think are useful guidelines. I think that there has to be an enormous amount being done, whether it's experimentation or speeding up for efficiency's sake, or things that slow you down, within mainstream publishing. There has to be more than just the guardrails around the creative process. And clearly when we're talking about metadata, book description, cover copy, presumably royalty calculations, presumably if you're trying to grow your newsletters. There has to be an enormous amount of activity going on. We're driven by the market, so we do not commission. Writers come to us and they either want to work with us and we want to work with them, or that doesn't happen. So we're in a sense seeing what the market is seeing, and that is a whole range of things. As I've said before, there's a lot of sweeping generalisations out there, which if you look back to that Kindle moment, we were talking a little while ago about what was going on in 2010/2011, about the enormous broad brush strokes that were being perceived as a result of Kindle. Kindle has affected some areas of publishing, it's affected some not at all. I think it will be absolutely fascinating when the sweeping generalisations stop and there becomes, I suppose, even more transparency. The thing that people are looking for, isn't it? A little bit less opaqueness as to what is really being done. Because everybody's being so careful about what they say they're doing and what they're not doing. I suppose ElevenLabs is the one where people are openly engaging on the audio side. I mean, everyone is being so careful and cautious. Jo: Me too. John: What do you think? We spoke a bit about AI within the book, and I'm interested to know what you think. Jo: Well, I've obviously been openly talking about it since 2016. I openly talk about using it, and I've got my Patreon community where we talk about how we're using it, and tips on how to use it. But then, because I have been writing and publishing since 2007, 2008, I'm very strong in my creative voice. I'm very strong in my understanding of what I consider to be my level of output, and what I publish under my own name is what I publish under my own name. John: Totally. Jo: So the problem is for people who are less confident, I think, in what they're doing creatively perhaps. I know some people feel like they're scared it will take over or something. When you're as strong-minded as me, it's not taking over anything. John: It's not going to take over anything. And the other side of the coin is how many people are finding Whitefox using ChatGPT. Jo: Mm. John: I'm thrilled that we are emerging, through very detailed briefing of AI, as something that is worth engaging with. Jo: Positive marketing. John: Yes, exactly. As you say, I think there's a lot of negativity, and I think it will settle down eventually. I think less hysteria. Jo: Yes, hopefully sooner rather than later. So as we come to an end, you've been in the publishing industry a long time and seen a lot of people who have disappeared, but also those who've lasted. I wondered if maybe you could comment on those who last, because I definitely feel like I'm in my 50s now, and I want to keep doing this. I'm pretty obsessed with— What are the hallmarks of people who have a long-term career? So reflections on that. John: Oh, that's such a good question. I think there's some common characteristics and themes. So I think authenticity, I think this idea of being continually curious. I think there are people who can't help but create, and this idea that once you've sort of expelled once, that's enough. I think there's people that just can't stop creating, whatever you do with it. But this idea that the more you do, the better you get, the more you evolve and keep an open mind. I think there's definitely entrepreneurial writers who love this idea of keeping their readers engaged, and how that conversation is something that evolves and that collaboration evolves, is fascinating. I think if you love that, and you listen, there's always an opportunity to keep building on what you do. I love the writers who we work with. I can think of a writer who we're working on his fourth novel at the moment, and he is a bundle of positivity. No matter the trials and tribulations, the things that have gone wrong, his expectations definitely not being met with his first book. He definitely has this idea that he wants to keep writing, he wants to get better, and he is getting better. It isn't a journey that has a beginning and an end. It's something that will continue for as long as he wants to write. Every single book that he has published, he has learned and gained confidence, gained a network of connections that he's utilised himself now to not make the first half a dozen mistakes he made on the first book. Who knows where it will end up? But certainly the satisfaction he's getting, and the sales he's getting, are growing as he becomes savvier and quicker to make the right choices and decisions. So I think that's my honest answer to that. I think there are definitely people who think, “Phew, I have really wanted to do this book. Now I can rest easy. I've done my book.” Then there are people who really, whatever their objective, whatever the definition of success is from the get-go, just can't help creating. I do love that and respect that. I don't think our book falls quite into that category, because I think it's a slightly different thing. I think there are people who are still making a success of what they do and redefining that as they go on, and who are really open to ideas and input from different people and are not closed off. I love working with those people. Jo: So where can people find Going Indie and everything you do online? John: Well, Going Indie is available online at all good bookshops. It's available at Amazon and anywhere you buy books online as ebook and POD. Our website is wearewhitefox.com, and you'll find information about not just our book there, but a lot of other things that we're doing on that site. Jo: Brilliant. Well, thanks so much for your time, John. That was great. John: Thank you so much, Jo. It's been a pleasure. The post Going Indie, Publishing Innovation, And The Challenges Of Book Marketing With John Bond first appeared on The Creative Penn.

Micah T. Dank was born in 1983 in Oceanside New York. From a young age, he had wanted to be a writer, coming from a family of writers. His father was a producer and radio news editor at CBS News in Manhattan and his grandfather was a Producer at CBS News. Micah was an actor in High School and became interested in writing from his 12th grade English teacher Russell Reid. From there he majored in English at SUNY Albany and transferred down to CUNY Hunter College in Manhattan to earn his Bachelors's degree in ‘Language Literature and Criticism'. It wasn't until he moved to Boston for a new job that he became interested in all the esoteric sciences including astrology and astrotheology prevalent through his book series. Micha is an author with his new series “Into the Rabbit Hole”. His first book is “Into the Veil” which he compared to Dan Brown's “Davinci Code”. Micah explores astrology and the hidden codes in the bible and how it relates to what is real and what is possible related to politics, conspiracy, fringe medicine, history, language and what it means to survive in these times! United Public Radio & UFO Paranormal Radio www.uprntalkradio.com

Are we one generation away from a synchronized societal collapse? Today, Mike and Chris unpack the terrifying near-future dystopian thriller Eulogy for the Stripes with debut author Michael McGehee. No spoilers!Set in 2049, this cautionary tale ditches the super-soldier tropes for an everyday analyst navigating an authoritarian uniparty, a constitutional crisis, and a devastating standoff in Texas. Michael reveals how his 20-year career in Air Force logistics and systems tech inspired this hyper-realistic breakdown of American infrastructure and institutions. —

In this episode, we dive deep into the journey of real estate mogul Dan Brown, founder of Blue Mahi Real Estate. From dropping out of college and selling jewelry to grinding in the timeshare trenches at Wyndham, Dan has picked himself up by his bootstraps to build an absolute empire. Tune in as Dan shares his invaluable playbook on transitioning from a top-producing agent to an independent business owner, leveraging virtual assistants to reclaim your time, and shifting from transactional sales to building a powerful, community-driven brand. Whether you are a business owner, entrepreneur, or sales professional, this episode is packed with major golden nuggets to help you scale faster! If you need extra bandwidth and the leverage of a VA, grab a spot that fits your week: https://bit.ly/4cj3SqG #RealEstateEmpire #TheLeveragePodcast #RealEstateAgent #RealEstateInvesting #VirtualAssistants #BusinessScaling #SalesPlaybook #Entrepreneurship #CommunityBranding

Back with our once-a-month Shakespeare, this week wrapping up the trilogy of Henry plays with my personal favorite, Henry V. This week I did a quick review of how I read Shakespeare--movie, Folgers Shakespeare edition--and then we jumped into the play. After the humor of Falstaff and the exploits of our Prince Harry, Henry V is decidedly more serious. Prince Harry has become King Henry V, and he's going to war to claim the French throne. Shakespeare gives us a guide, the Chorus, who navigates the action as we watch Harry lead his army through the siege at Harfleur and the slog to Calais. The ragged army arrives at the field of Agincourt vastly outnumbered by a fresh French army when Henry gives what I think is one of the finest speeches in all of Shakespeare (although I have only nine other plays to compare to!). The "band of brothers" St. Crispin's Day speech is one for the ages!The play isn't only about battles, though. We see Harry struggle with betrayal and the consequences of leadership, and we see him court Princess Katherine of France in some of the lighter moments of the play. And while we no longer have Falstaff, the French leadership provide their own share of comic relief, which must have played well in Elizabethan England, too.By the way, you truly MUST watch the Kenneth Branagh movie, Henry V. As of July 2026 it's included in Amazon Prime--this is a movie that will win over the most anti-Shakespeare person in your life.Next month we take on our first comedy, As You Like It. And we are choosing plays to read in the coming months over on the Substack chat--please let me know what you want to read! That link is below.And next week, we take a closer look at the historical Henry V with Dan Brown's 2024 biography. Will the real Henry V please stand up?BOOKS IN THIS EPISODEThe Folgers Shakespeare Library: Henry IV Part 1, Part 2; Henry V; As You Like ItDan Brown's Henry VCONNECTLet's talk about Shakespeare: Crack the Book Substack ChatThe complete list of Crack the Book Episodes (Amazon affiliate links): https://cheryldrury.substack.com/p/crack-the-book-start-here?r=u3t2rTo read more of my writing, visit my Substack - https://www.cheryldrury.substack.com.Follow me on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cldrury/ Like what you heard? Buy me a coffee! https://ko-fi.com/crackthebookLISTENSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/5GpySInw1e8IqNQvXow7Lv?si=9ebd5508daa245bdApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crack-the-book/id1749793321 Captivate - https://crackthebook.captivate.fm

Crowley Clark joins No Limits: The Thriller Podcast for a non-spoiler conversation about Shadows of the Fathers, his debut thriller set inside Mexico's cartels — a novel brimming with suspense, passion, family drama, legacy, and a touch of the occult. Crowley also shares his process for crafting characters, writing dialogue, and marketing a first novel.“Crowley Clark delivers in this explosive Jack-Ryan-meets-James-Reece debut that won't stay in the shadows for long.” — ThrillerPod.com—

LaToya and Barry conducted their 201st podcast episode, discussing various personal updates and topics. LaToya shared details about moving her home office to her bedroom due to upcoming house guests, including a new sit-stand desk and monitor setup. They discussed their experiences with the recently completed World Cup tournament and MLS soccer, including Atlanta United's performance. LaToya mentioned reading Andy Weir books, and Barry discussed his recent reading of Dan Brown's latest novel. Both talked about their use of the Refract app as a replacement for TV Time to track their media consumption. LaToya revealed she had injured her foot after the World Cup and was starting GLP-1 medication again, while Barry shared that he would need to stop taking Ozempic two weeks before his upcoming colonoscopy. They also discussed Barry's writing career and royalty income, and LaToya's upcoming cruise plans. The conversation concluded with them noting they had 199 episodes remaining before reaching their 400th episode milestone.

Die Amerikaner, Jackson Suber, loop op vyf onder baansyfer 65 voor na die eerste rondte van die 154ste Ope Kampioenskap op Royal Birkdale in Engeland. Dis die 26-jarige Suber se ope-debuut en eerste besoek aan Europa. Hy is een hou voor Dan Brown van Engeland en die Suid-Koreaan, Im Sung-jae. Die verdedigende kampioen, Scottie Scheffler van Amerika, het geopen met twee onder 68. Rory McIlroy van Noord-Ierland het sy poging vir ʼn sewende major-titel met ʼn teleurstellende twee oor 72 begin. Suber sê hy het die eerste rondte geniet:

The Detective Jackson Suber (-5) leads by one over Sungjae Im and Dan Brown after the first day at Royal Birkdale. Join us as we break down all the action from the 2026 Open Championship, including Down the Leaderboard, news and notes, and much more. Presented by Titleist. Support our sponsors: FootJoy - the #1 shoe in Golf! High Noon - Sun's Up! Golf Pride - 20% off with NLU20 at https://golfpride.com AT&T - Connection Changes Everything Looking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Fully Booked, Roland and Craig are joined by Ralph R. “Rick” Steinke, a 28 year U.S. Army veteran, West Point graduate, former Defense Attaché to France, and author of the Major Jake Forina thriller series. Rick shares how a career spent commanding troops, working with NATO, leading counterterrorism efforts, and building international partnerships has shaped the stories he writes today. From deadly virus outbreaks to the Russia Ukraine conflict, he explains how real world experience helps him create fast paced thrillers that feel both authentic and cinematic. The conversation also explores Rick's approach to the writing process, including what he learned from James Patterson, Dan Brown, and Ken Follett, why he combines planning with discovery as he writes, and how short chapters and strong cliffhangers keep readers turning the page. Rick also shares insights from his writing journey, including how he balances realism with entertainment and the realities of publishing on Amazon. Whether you're writing your own thriller or simply enjoy stories inspired by today's global events, this episode is packed with insight and inspiration.   Ralph R. “Rick” Steinke https://ricksteinke.com/   Hidden Gems Need our help publishing or marketing your book?  https://www.hiddengemsbooks.com/author-services/   All episode details and links:  https://www.hiddengemsbooks.com/podcast

Army Ranger and Green Beret Jack Murphy joins us to discuss his explosive new military thriller, The Most Dangerous Man. We dive into the inspiration behind Staff Sgt. Jeremy Lopez's fight for survival when he becomes the ultimate prey in a deadly game of billionaire hunters, the real-world tactics that make this book so authentic, and what it's like to write a modern “Most Dangerous Game” with a Special Forces twist. No spoilers — just a conversation about craft, combat, and what makes a hunter truly dangerous. —

On the latest episode of the ABA Banking Journal Podcast — sponsored by Q2 Software — ABA economist Dan Brown discusses the recent release of Home Mortgage Disclosure Act (HMDA) data for 2025. He examines several trends, including the varying composition of bank mortgage loans in different regions, where banks face the stiffest nonbank competition in the mortgage market, a recent rebound in refinancings and a growing generation gap in homebuying activity.

In this spoiler-filled review of Choke Point by Brad Thor, we break down the return of a major character, the biggest twists, and how the latest Scot Harvath thriller lands overall. If you've read the book, this is the full spoiler conversation. —

Poisonous plants in pastures can pose serious risks to grazing cattle, especially when conditions change throughout the season. In this Successful Farming Saturday Short, Cornell University animal science professor Dan Brown explains how plant toxicity varies by region, dose, and time of year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How does a husband-and-wife team co-author a spy thriller? Bill and Karen Brodsky (K.B. Brodsky) join No Limits to discuss their debut political thriller, Beyond Honor — a novel that blends the tension of Red Sparrow with the high-stakes momentum of The Terminal List.They talk about their collaborative writing process, balancing two perspectives on espionage fiction, and crafting a story built around CIA betrayal and an Oval Office conspiracy.For spy thriller fans curious about how married co-authors create espionage fiction together, this interview is a must-listen.—

Our guest today is the hugely successful author of twisty, suspenseful, page-turning, gripping novels - such as Tell No One, Fool Me Once and Deal Breaker - Harlan Coben. Here, Harlan talks to Gyles about his childhood, spent in a very ordinary all-American town in New Jersey, which had secrets and rumours lurking beneath its cookie-cutter exterior. He talks about his family - his inspirational father who died too young, and his mother, who lied about her age and was a feminist and a wild-child. He talks about his grandfather's shady mafia dealings. He talks about falling in love, being at college with Dan Brown, and the poetry of Bruce Springsteen. Harlan also talks in depth and detail about his approach to writing. If you've loved any of Harlan's brilliant books or watched any of the thrilling Netflix adaptations of his work - you will find this fascinating. If you're not yet familiar with Harlan's work - you'll want to be after listening to this. What a charming, perceptive and wise person... Thank you Harlan for your time, energy and stories. Enjoy this. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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A SECRETIVE religious group that wields power in Washington, D.C. and other world capitals — sounds like the basis for Dan Brown's next novel, but it's real. Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, has been following this group for years, even living at The Family's headquarters for a time. What he found is a group that justifies its pursuit of political power by claiming that it's for the kingdom of God.Read Jeff's original expose of The Family, “Jesus Plus Nothing,” at Harper's Magazine online. Christians are taking heat for The Family from the likes of The Huffington Post and MSNBC. The irony is that The Family isn't promoting a Christian agenda, but a New Age agenda. See Constance Cumbey's five-part series The Family and its Hijacking of Evangelicalism.  As Jeff Sharlet asked, where is the outrage from influential evangelicals?Derek's book Destination: Earth, co-authored with Donna Howell and Allie Anderson, is available in paperback, Kindle, and as an audiobook at Audible!Our latest book The Gates of Hell is now available in paperback, Kindle, and as an audiobook at Audible! Get our free app! It features all of our weekly content—this podcast, our weekly Bible study, the Gilbert House Fellowship, and our weekly program Unraveling Revelation. It's free and available for iOS, Android, Amazon Kindle Fire tablets, and for Roku and Apple TV. Find the link here: www.GilbertHouse.org/app/.Thank you for making our Build Barn Better project a reality! We truly appreciate your support. Thank you for making it possible! If you are so led, you can help out by clicking here.Please join Derek and Sharon Gilbert each Sunday for the Gilbert House Fellowship, our weekly Bible study podcast. Log on to www.GilbertHouse.org for more details.Discuss these topics at the VFTB Facebook page and check out the great podcasters at the Fringe Radio Network!

Send us Fan MailSeason 17 of TGTPTU calls a wrap on its third of four directors in its 4x4 this week with Ron Howard's THE DA VINCI CODE (2006).   Starring Tom Hanks, father of musician and male model Chet Hanks but also known for leading roles in such earlier Howard films not covered on this podcast as Splash (1984) and Apollo 13 (1995), with a grotesque haircut as supersleuth symbiologist Robert Langdon from Dan Brown's 2003 best-selling page-turner of the same name, the movie is a bunch of nonsense that got some Catholics upset for suggesting Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the disputed son of a disputed desert deity, had children, likely through consensual intercourse unlike the legend of his siring. Howard's The Da Vinci Code also has great French actors used poorly in this flick mostly set in France and at least one Jellicle cat, one Sony Spiderman villain, and one Avenger (MCU, not BBC) actor of British lineage to help out the American Langdon in his quest for an ultimate truth that could rock the world to its core assuming it's not flat (see Revelation 7:1 and Isaiah 11:12, ya heathens).   Holy host Ryan goes above and beyond in his research for this ep; the son Jack passes the season's assignment; the father Ken is unimpressed by the chase scenes; and Doubting Thomas in real time processes that the female lead is the same actress as the titular Amélie (2001).  If you like anagrams and unstimulating action sequences, this might be the movie for you.    Skcus eivom siht.   P.S. You know that I am Opus Dei.  THEME SONG BY: WEIRD A.I.Email: thegoodthepodandtheugly@gmail.comFacebook: https://m.facebook.com/TGTPTUInstagram: https://instagram.com/thegoodthepodandtheugly?igshid=um92md09kjg0Bluesky: @goodpodugly.bsky.socialYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6mI2plrgJu-TB95bbJCW-gLetterboxd (follow us!):Podcast: goodpoduglyKen: Ken KoralRyan: Ryan Tobias

It's Wayback Wednesday, with another interview drawn from our archive of programs dating back to June, 2009. This week, it's a discussion from 2009 about an ostensibly Christian group that wields an inordinate amount of power behind the scenes in Washington, D. C., The Family. Originally released September 20, 2009 A SECRETIVE religious group that wields power in Washington, D.C. and other world capitals — sounds like the basis for Dan Brown's next novel, but it's real. Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, has been following this group for years, even living at The Family's headquarters for a time. What he found is a group that justifies its pursuit of political power by claiming that it's for the kingdom of God. Read Jeff's original expose of The Family, “Jesus Plus Nothing,” at Harper's Magazine online. Christians are taking heat for The Family from the likes of The Huffington Post and MSNBC. The irony is that The Family isn't promoting a Christian agenda, but a New Age agenda. See Constance Cumbey's five-part series The Family and its Hijacking of Evangelicalism. As Jeff Sharlet asked, where is the outrage from influential evangelicals? Follow us! X: @viewfrombunker | @sharonkgilbert | @derekgilbertTelegram: t.me/gilberthouseSubstack: gilberthouse.substack.com | SharonKGilbert.substack.comYouTube: @GilbertHouse | @UnravelingRevelationFacebook.com/viewfromthebunker Thank you for making our Build Barn Better project a reality! The building has HVAC, a new floor, windows, insulation, ceiling fans, and an upgraded electrical system! We truly appreciate your support. If you are so led, you can help out at www.GilbertHouse.org/donate. Download our free app! This brings all of our content directly to your smartphone or tablet. Best of all, we'll never get canceled from our own app! Links to the app stores for iOS, iPadOS, Android, and Amazon Kindle Fire devices are at www.GilbertHouse.org/app. Please join us each Sunday for the Gilbert House Fellowship, our weekly Bible study podcast. Log on to www.GilbertHouse.org for more details. JOIN US IN ISRAEL! We will tour the Holy Land October 11–23, 2026 with an optional three-day extension to Jordan. For more information, log on to GilbertHouse.org/travel. Special offers on our books and DVDs: www.gilberthouse.org/store. Discuss these topics at the VFTB Facebook page (facebook.com/viewfromthebunker) and check out the great podcasters at the Fringe Radio Network (Spreaker.com/show/fringe-radio-network)!

I loved my conversation with Nicholas Teeguarden about his Masa Chronicles, and I loved the story. Listen in and see why. note: links may be affiliate links that provide me with a small commission at no extra expense to you. For those of you looking for action over romance, you get it in this book! There IS a light romance, yes, but it's strongly secondary to the main plot. Note: I read the book and LOVED this story. I really loved the story, actually. I listened to the audio, though, and since I was so excited about the audiobook, I thought I should mention that I didn't enjoy the audio experience. My biggest complaint is the pronunciation of so many things.  Story great. Others might not have trouble, but I needed to be honest about that since I was so excited to see it. The Copper Scroll  by Nicholas Teeguarden Book of the Year Finalist A lost scroll. A deadly secret. A race across the Middle East—where every clue could be fatal. When grad student and Army veteran Joshua Bennett uncovers a cryptic Dead Sea artifact, he's thrust into a world of coded messages, ruthless rivals, and ancient conspiracies. Every answer leads to new danger—and every ally could be an enemy. Perfect for fans of Dan Brown, Steve Berry, and Indiana Jones—this is a clean, high-octane archaeological thriller you won't want to put down. Learn more on Nicholas's WEBSITE and follow on GoodReads and BookBub. Like to listen on the go? You can find Because Fiction Podcast at: Apple Castbox Google Play Libsyn RSS Spotify Amazon and more!

Robert Langdon is back in action and this time he has to solve... wait. what does he do in this book exactly? This week we read The Secret of Secrets by Dan Brown with return guest Johnathan Fernandez!Mean Book Club is four ladies (UCB, BuzzFeed, College Humor, Impractical Jokers) who read, discuss and whine about NYT bestselling books that have questionable literary merit. It's fun. It's cathartic. It's perfect for your commute. New podcast (almost) every Tuesday! Here's the Season 21 reading list:Rose in Chains by Julie SotoHeated Rivalry by Rachel ReidNinth House by Leigh BardugoPowerless by Lauren RobertsThe Secret of Secrets by Dan BwonRemarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van PeltSometimes I Lie by Alice FeeneyQuicksilver by Callie HartSend any future book suggestions to meanbookclub@gmail.com! Follow us on the socials @meanbookclub!Rate, like, subscribe, and check out our Patreon page at patreon.com/meanbookclub to become a true patron of the mean arts.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mean-book-club--3199521/support.

We once again travel back to the dark heart of the Bush era by discussing one of the biggest cultural events of the 2000s. Ron Howard's THE DA VINCI CODE (2006) adapted Dan Brown's turgid bestseller into an even more turgid blockbuster. Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus

Today we bring you a story from our sister podcast Outside/In, produced and reported by Marina Henke. In 2009, the state of Maine ordered farmer Dan Brown to stop selling his raw milk. It kicked off a five-year legal battle that stoked the flames of Maine's dairy wars. But, after Farmer Brown lost his case and hung up his milking hat, things quieted down.  Twenty years later, raw milk has surged back into the zeitgeist. Influencers are saying it tastes like ice cream, RFK Jr. is taking shots of it at the White House, and Gwyneth Paltrow is putting it in her coffee. All of which makes for a pretty obvious question… What's the appeal? Is raw milk some kind of superfood? Or something to avoid at all costs?  Featuring Dan Brown, Andy Bisson, Danny Bisson, Nicole Martin, Pamela Ruegg, and Mary McGonigle-Martin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Holy Grail is the most sought-after object in human history. The legend goes that the grail could bring whoever finds it unbelievable power, influence, youth and even eternal life. Which is why the hunters have included everyone from the knights of King Arthur to full-blown Nazis, hunting for a secret weapon to win them the war.We trace the whole story back to the Last Supper, via the Crusades, Heinrich Himmler, Dan Brown and Indiana Jones.--Patreon - Ad-free & Bonus EpisodesYouTube - Full-length Video EpisodesTikTok / Instagram

Vinny talks about the Dan Brown book he is reading and the brain is discussed.