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“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone."~ Matthew 18:15Why do I get caught in the middle of arguments in my family?Why is it so tempting to bring someone else into a tense situation?How do I break the cycle of being brought into triangles among my family & friends?In Episode 74 of This Whole Life, Kenna Millea welcomes Ben Baker, LMFT and Addy Diaz for a lively Relationship Roundtable all about “triangulation”—that sneaky dynamic that can pop up in families, friendships, and work relationships alike. The team breaks down what triangulation actually is (spoiler: it's more common—and human—than you think), how to spot it in real life, and why we're all tempted to avoid tension by pulling in a third person, habit, or even technology. With honest stories, practical metaphors (think wobbly tables and silent dinners), and plenty of humor, they explore how triangles can sometimes stabilize a relationship—but also block the deeper connection we're really seeking. Tune in for relatable insights, gentle challenges, and actionable tips on how to recognize, understand, and break out of unhealthy triangles for healthier, more authentic relationships.Episode 74 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and becoming a therapist8:32: What is triangulation?19:48: Triangles are stabilizing - even harmful ones26:23: How do we recognize triangulation?33:21: What causes triangles?44:47: How do I get out of a triangle?52:55: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?When have you been brought into a triangle? When have you triangulated someone or something else?How does it feel when you've been dragged into a triangle? Why does it feel that way?Why are triangles so stabilizing? When are they healthy and unhealthy?When are you most tempted to triangulate others? How can you get out of triangles when they happen?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Join the community of supporters of This Whole Life! ❤️

Jesus said to him, “What if I want him to remain until I come? What concern is it of yours? You follow me.”~ John 21:22Why do I get so angry at others' opinions & actions?How am I supposed to handle the evil & falsehood in the world?Why is it easier for me to explain what I'm against than what I'm for?In episode 73 of This Whole Life, hosts Kenna and Pat Millea welcome back Fr. Nathan LaLiberte for a candid conversation about identity, vulnerability, and the subtle trap of living in antithesis—defining ourselves primarily by what we're against. Together, they explore how easy it is to move through life reacting to what we don't like or want, rather than proactively following Christ's invitation to an authentic identity rooted in his love. With honesty and a good dose of humor, the trio reflects on the pitfalls of fear-based living, the grace of following Christ, and the challenge of forging deeper relationships built on shared pursuits rather than shared enemies. From the temptations of social media outrage and cable news to the deeper work of self-reflection and forgiveness, this episode invites listeners to consider what truly forms their identity—and how to embrace a more Christ-centered, joyful life.Episode 73 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards16:24: Don't be an antithesis26:34: The temptations & evils of resentment33:07: Recognizing antithesis in my own life42:32: Where am I putting my energy?51:53: The personal invitation to follow Jesus54:19: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?Is it easier for you to be against things or for Christ?How do media, especially social media, affect your opinions and reactions to others?When have you vowed to "never" be like someone or do something? How did that impact the way that you approached daily life?How can you take practical steps to living for Christ and allowing him to guide your responses to the sins & shortcomings of the world?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Join the community of supporters of This Whole Life! ❤️

"Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."~ 1 Corinthians 13:7Why do I get so hurt by others' actions?Why is it so hard for me to let things slide?How can I give people close to me the benefit of the doubt?In episode 72 of This Whole Life, Kenna and Pat dive into the concept of Positive Sentiment Override, a game-changing mindset for building stronger, more joyful relationships. Kicking things off with some spirited candy rankings for the Easter season, the duo opens with laughter before turning to the more serious - but deeply practical - work of cultivating a positive lens in daily interactions with loved ones. Together, they break down Dr. John Gottman's research on how seeing the best in others impacts not only our relationships but our own mental health. Together, they share real-life scenarios of how our internal narratives can shape the atmosphere in our homes, grounded in both faith and psychology. Whether you're looking for ways to make your domestic church into a greater sanctuary or wanting to shake off negativity in your marriage, family, or friendships, this episode is packed with relatable stories, actionable takeaways, and faith-filled encouragement.Episode 72 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction, Candy Rankings, and Highs & Hards18:09: What is Positive Sentiment Override?27:40: What if they're truly doing something wrong?32:28: How do I know I'm in Negative Sentiment Override?43:39: Practical situations50:56: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?When have you enjoyed positive sentiment override with others? When have you been stuck in negative sentiment override?How do you know when you're in a negative space with a loved one? What are the signs?How do you break out of negative sentiment override and think more positively of your loved ones?Why is it so hard to give the people closest to us the benefit of the doubt? What can you do to extend that grace to them?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Support the showThank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"...we also boast in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us."~ Romans 5:3-5How are Christians supposed to respond to suffering?How do I know if I'm suffering well?How do I know whether I should avoid or accept a specific kind of suffering?In episode 71 of This Whole Life, hosts Kenna and Pat Millea are joined by their good friend, Fr. Nathan LaLiberte, to delve into the complex topic of suffering from both a faith-based and psychological perspective. They explore the idea that suffering is not just to be avoided but can be a path to personal growth, connection with God, and redemption. Fr. Nathan shares insights from his experience and studies, highlighting how pain can signal areas for growth and conversion. The conversation is grounded on the Christian ethos of finding purpose in suffering, and includes sound psychological principles like those of Alfred Adler and Viktor Frankl. They also discuss the Fruits of the Holy Spirit and the virtue of prudence as essential tools in discernment, helping listeners navigate when to accept suffering and when to seek change. Join them for a thought-provoking exploration of suffering in the pursuit of sanity and sanctity.Episode 71 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards13:42: The meaning of suffering21:24: What kind of a God allows suffering?25:38: There is no growth or change without pain35:16: Do I accept this suffering or ask for help?45:07: The example of Chiara Corbella Petrillo50:37: Challenge By ChoiceReflections Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?When have you experienced suffering in your life? What was that like for you?Has your suffering helped you to know Jesus better or has it challenged your faith?How has hardship helped you to grow, become stronger, and experience conversion?How do you discern whether to accept suffering in faith or to seek out resources to diminish the suffering?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Join the community of supporters of This Whole Life! ❤️

“Man becomes an image of God not so much in the moment of solitude as in the moment of communion.”~ St. John Paul IIHow do men connect with others?What makes it hard for men to have strong marriages & friendships?What can a man do to create healthier connections with others?This special episode of This Whole Life is the first "Relationship Roundtable," tackling issues related to human connection and struggles in relationships. Pat Millea is joined by an outstanding panel of guests, including Ben Baker, John Braun, and Andy Norton, who dive into the vital topic of men's relational health. They explore what it looks like when men are truly connected with others—be it their wives, parents, children, friends, or coworkers. The episode unpacks the dynamics of honor, vulnerability, self-reliance, and the often-complicated nature of friendships. From pop culture references to real-life anecdotes, the conversation reveals both the strengths and pitfalls that men often face in relationships. Each guest offers insights from their own experiences, linking them to mental health and the Christian life. With practical steps and spiritual encouragement, they challenge men to take bold steps toward deeper and healthier connections. Whether you're a man seeking to improve your relationships or someone who loves one, this episode offers valuable perspectives and encouragement.Episode 70 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Intro & positive & negative examples of men connecting with others18:22: When men are in healthy relationship with others25:30: Self-reliance, withdrawing, & struggles for men in relationships29:58: The cycle of shame in men38:21: Relationship goals & reaching out for connection45:41: Practical ways for men to foster healthy relationships58:02: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?When men are in healthy relationships, what are they doing well?When men are struggling to be connected to others, what are the pitfalls or temptations?How can men have strong, connected relationships while maintaining a sense of personal competence and strength?Men: How can you reach out to someone for greater connection? Women: How can you support the men in your life with their relationships?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Join the community of supporters of This Whole Life! ❤️

"True listeners no longer have an inner need to make their presence known. They are free to receive, to welcome, to accept."~ Henri NouwenWhy is it so hard to listen well to others?Why am I so pained when others don't listen to me?Can I become a better & more active listener?In this episode of This Whole Life, Pat and Kenna welcome guest Addy Diaz to explore the art of active listening. Delving into how active listening fosters deeper connections and empathy, Addy shares insights from her experience in clinical counseling and ministry. The discussion highlights the importance of being present and attentive to others' stories, avoiding common pitfalls like bringing conversations back to oneself or offering unsolicited advice. Addy discusses practical "Dos" and "Don'ts", such as eliminating distractions and reflecting feelings and posture, to enhance one's listening skills and connection to others. Through engaging anecdotes and relatable scenarios, this episode emphasizes the transformative power of truly hearing others and provides listeners with tools to become better listeners.Addy Diaz is a Masters Level Clinician seeking advanced licensure as a Licensed Practicing Clinical Counselor. Addy holds a Master of Science in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from the University of Mary in Bismarck, ND. She received her undergraduate degree in Communications from Northern State University in Aberdeen, SD. Addy is passionate about integrating the truths of the Christian faith and the realities of mental health for a holistic understanding of the person. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with friends, brewing kombucha, gardening, and playing music. Episode 69 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards15:28: The transformative power of active listening24:07: Embracing the levels of personhood32:36: Listening communicates worth40:36: Resisting the temptation to minimize45:43: Advice & Criticism53:34: Receiving, not educating57:39: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?On a scale from 1-10, how skilled are you at active listening? Have you become better or worse over time?When have you had an experience of being heard well and with love? What did that mean to you?What is hard about active listening in your relationships? What are the temptations or distractions?What is one way you will work to become a better listener?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Join the community of supporters of This Whole Life! ❤️

"What we can be always sure of - no matter what is happening in our lives - is that we are not alone. You are not alone! God knows your suffering intimately and wants to walk with you through it."~ Bishop James ConleyHow should a Christian respond to a mental health crisis?Do priests & bishops know what it's like to struggle with their mental health?Is it worth it to be open & honest about my struggles?In this beautifully personal episode, Kenna and Pat are joined by Bishop James Conley, who candidly shares his personal journey through mental health struggles and his path to recovery and wholeness. Bishop Conley opens up about the challenges he faced, including situational PTSD, anxiety, and major depressive disorder, and the transformative power of faith, vulnerability, and honesty. Drawing from his experience, he offers insights into the intersection of faith and mental health, emphasizing the importance of an approach to wellness that serves the whole person. The conversation expands to touch on societal issues such as the role of technology in mental health and the responsibilities of the Church in these areas. Bishop Conley's story serves as a testament to the enduring hope and healing available through faith, community, and professional support. Tune in for an inspiring and enlightening discussion that celebrates the pursuit of wholeness and holiness.Bishop James Conley has been the bishop of the Diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska since 2012, where his episcopal motto is "cor ad cor loquitur" ("heart speaks to heart"). Bishop Conley was ordained a priest in 1985 and has served at the Vatican and as auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Denver prior to his current assignment. In 2024, he shared A Future With Hope, his pastoral letter on mental health.Episode 68 Show NotesA Future With Hope, Bishop Conley's Pastoral Letter on Mental HealthChapters:0:00: Introducing Bishop James Conley7:43: Highs & Hards18:09: Bishop Conley's mental health journey35:30: The experience of vulnerability42:52: Hopeful responses to mental health from the Church46:44: Daily mental health practices53:15: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What situations and forces are threats to your mental health? How do you respond to them?What do you take from Bishop Conley's openness about his struggles with mental health? How might you be more open & vulnerable with your loved ones?How do you see the Church and individual Christians responding to mental health crises? Where do you see hope?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Love without truth devolves into sentimentality. Truth without love becomes cold and calculated."~ Bishop Robert BarronWhere did we get to this place with regard to gender?How do I, a Christian, treat people who are gender nonconforming?What is the relationship between truth and love in real relationships?In Episode 67, hosts Kenna and Pat engage in a profound & faithful conversation with Dr. Julia Sadusky about gender identity and gender dysphoria. Dr. Sadusky, a licensed clinical psychologist, brings her expertise in psychology, gender, and faith, offering compassionate insights into how parents and individuals can navigate the complex terrain of gender identity with love and truth. This episode delves into the complexities of gender dysphoria, highlighting the real emotional challenges faced by those experiencing it, and provides practical guidance for parents aiming to support their children's gender exploration in a healthy and faith-filled way. Dr. Sadusky also shares her personal journey into this work, illustrating the power of compassion and the importance of presence in moments of suffering. Listeners are invited to examine their own positions and postures, fostering meaningful and empathetic relationships with those navigating gender questions.Dr. Julia Sadusky is a licensed clinical psychologist and the owner of a private practice in Littleton, CO. She is also an author, consultant, speaker, and adjunct professor. Dr. Sadusky has done extensive research and clinical work in sexual and gender development and specializes in trauma-informed care. She earned a bachelor's degree from Ave Maria University and a master's degree and doctorate in Clinical Psychology from Regent University. She has authored several books around human sexuality, with her most recent two-book series entitled, "Start Talking to Your Kids about Sex: A Practical Guide for Catholics" (Ave Maria Press, 2023) and "Talking with Your Teen about Sex: A Practical Guide for Catholics (Ave Maria Press, 2024). Episode 67 Show NotesVisit Dr. Julia Sadusky's website and check out her booksChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards12:57: Defining gender & gender identity19:34: Gender dysphoria & distress around gender27:33: Parents facing gender confusion in their children42:16: Public gender nonconformity & pronouns54:28: Position vs. Posture59:49: Navigating gender expression with loved ones1:10:52: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions: What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?When have you encountered challenges around gender?How do you balance truth and love in the face of conversations around gender?What comes up in you with conversations around gender?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Above all, let your love for one another be intense, because love covers a multitude of sins."~ 1 Peter 4:8What is a love language? What is MY love language?Why is it hard to connect with my spouse?How do I talk to my spouse about what makes me feel loved?In this heartwarming episode of This Whole Life, Kenna and Pat explore the concept of love languages, inspired by Gary Chapman's popular book. They dive into how understanding love languages can enhance relationships, especially during the busy, challenging seasons of life. Pat and Kenna share personal anecdotes, discussing their own love languages and how these have influenced their marriage. They break down the five love languages: words of affirmation, quality time, receiving gifts, acts of service, and physical touch, and provide insights on how to recognize and appreciate the love languages of significant others, family, and friends. These love languages help each of us to love in the deepest sense, in self-gift for the good of others. Tune in for a mix of playful banter, thoughtful discussion, and practical advice to nurture your most cherished relationships.Episode 66 Show NotesTake the online quiz to discover your Love Language!Download a summary of the Five Love LangaugesOrder The Five Love Languages by Gary ChapmanChapters:0:00: Intro Game and Highs & Hards14:01: Explaining the Love Languages19:22: Words of Affirmation24:28: Quality Time29:44: Receiving Gifts33:32: Acts of Service39:20: Physical Touch49:54: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What is your love language? What is the love language of your spouse or another loved one?How have you felt loved well? What made you feel loved?When have you not felt loved very well? What was happening or not happening?How can you communicate better with your spouse or loved ones about your love language?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"If in spite of everything God does not give them children, they should not regard themselves as being thwarted. They should be happy, discovering in this very fact God's will for them. ... There is, then, no reason for feeling they are failures or for giving way to sadness."~ St. Josemaría EscriváIs God present in infertility?How do I deal with the sadness & anger of losing a dream?When I feel like I don't fit in, what do I do?In this profoundly moving episode of This Whole Life, Kenna and Pat delve into the delicate and deep topic of infertility. They engage in heartfelt conversations with three couples who each share their unique and intimate journeys through infertility. Through candid stories of struggle, hope, and healing, the couples reveal how their experiences have shaped their relationships with one another and with God, how they navigate cultural expectations, and how they have developed emotional and mental resilience. This compelling episode sheds light on the realities of infertility, offering insights into how these couples have found support and love amidst their trials. Whether journeying through infertility or seeking to support those who are, you will discover profound lessons about life, love, and the reality of redemption in the midst of suffering.Episode 65 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Three couples' journey of infertility13:50: How has infertility impacted your marriage?18:13: How has infertility impacted your relationship with God?23:28: How has this journey affected your emotions & mental health along the way?36:17: Where have you found the most support & care?43:28: What have you learned about life and love?48:08: Witnessing generosity & openness up closeReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What is your experience with infertility, in your own life or in a loved one?What is one time that a dream was lost? What did you feel, and how did you respond?What are some of the expectations put upon you by the culture or those in the Church? What do you do when you don't fit those expectations?How can you love & support those living with infertility? If you experience infertility, what do you need from others?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“It is easy to love the people far away. It is not always easy to love those close to us. Bring love into your home, for this is where our love for each other must start.”~ St. Teresa of CalcuttaWhy am I so emotionally tied up in my kids' accomplishments?Is my child's behavior a verdict on my parenting?How can I be invested in my child without trying to control them?In Episode 64 of This Whole Life, Kenna welcomes guest Rachel Balducci for an insightful discussion on parenting, identity, and faith. They delve into the emotional journey parents undergo as they detach from their children's achievements and embrace their true identity and worth. Rachel shares personal stories, emphasizing the importance of humor and grace in parenting. The conversation highlights the need to maintain healthy boundaries, allowing children to forge their own paths while anchoring self-worth in the Lord, not external validation. Rachel also reflects on fostering authentic community and the transformative power of prayer, offering listeners encouragement in building genuine relationships and seeking holiness in everyday life. The episode is a thought-provoking exploration of how faith and mental health intertwine in parenting, with Kenna and Rachel offering wisdom and guidance for navigating challenges with love and understanding.Rachel Balducci is a cohost of The Gist, a talk show for women on CatholicTV, and teaches journalism at Augusta University. She is the author of No Such Thing As Ordinary, Overcommitted: Cut Chaos and Find Balance, Make My Life Simple: Bringing Peace to Heart and Home and How Do You Tuck in a Superhero and Other Delightful Mysteries of Raising Boys. Rachel and her husband, Paul, live in Georgia and have five sons and one daughter.Episode 64 Show NotesRachel Balducci's booksChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards10:32: Humility & candor in parenting17:24: Finding community & letting go of control33:42: Freedom from others' opinions of my children as extensions of me46:30: Receiving our value from the Lord, not from our children54:55: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What are the most wonderful things about marriage & parenting? What are the most challenging things about parenting?In what ways can parents balance the tension between helping their children pursue excellence and reminding them of their worth regardless of their accomplishments?What kinds of community and friendship have you sought out in your journey? Where are you most in need of support right now?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.”~ Blaise PascalDo the big, existential questions of life really matter?Why is it so tempting to avoid the big questions?How can I deal with the big questions in ways that I can process?In Episode 63 of This Whole Life, Pat and Kenna engage with clinical counselor Alex Wallace to explore the big questions: Why am I here? What is my purpose? Should I be vulnerable with others? Alex emphasizes the necessity of vulnerability and community in addressing existential questions and mental health challenges such as anxiety and depression. Drawing from personal experiences and Catholic teachings, he integrates faith with therapy, highlighting the crucial support therapists can provide in addressing deeper issues. The episode weaves humor with wisdom, referencing St. John Paul II's Theology of the Body and the Lion King. Join the conversation to face the things that really matter.Alex is Catholic, a husband and a father of four. He is also a Counselor with the Ruah Woods Institute and has twelve years of clinical experience, working to serve the needs of individuals in various settings, including private practice, community outpatient services, intensive youth rehabilitation, hospital chaplaincy, and collegiate sport performance. Alex holds credentials as a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor with training supervision designation (LPCC-S) in Ohio and is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) in Indiana.Episode 63 Show NotesThe Ruah Woods InstituteChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards14:02: The journey to becoming a Catholic therapist23:32: Existential questions & mental health29:27: Vulnerability & the Lion King42:37: Practicing as an authentically Catholic therapist51:05: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?In what ways does embracing vulnerability contribute to healing of mind & soul?Why is community essential in the process of wholeness according to the discussion?What big questions do you reflect on often? What big questions do you tend to avoid?In what ways does the world push us away from the big questions of life? What impact does that have on us, psychologically & spiritually?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"The Christian community is called to help them [parents] in teaching children how to live in a media environment in way consonant with the dignity of the human person and service of the common good.”~ Pope FrancisDoes technology really harm children & teens?How do I raise my children in a world steeped in tech & social media?Is it even worth the fight to resist the culture when it comes to technology? This is an important one, friends! In Episode 62, Pat and Kenna delve into the complexities of technology's impact on children, families, and parents. They discuss the critical role of guiding children towards responsible tech use, while resisting the cultural push for children using devices & social media at a young age. Exploring the emotional strain parents face when limiting tech access, they emphasize the empowerment found in community support. The episode also highlights the importance of fostering real-world engagement & joy. The couple shares personal insights on managing children's screen time, advocating for setting boundaries to promote healthier interactions.If you've ever faced difficult conversations or decisions about technology with your children, this episode is for you!Episode 62 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards17:50: Approach to technology & some statistics27:37: Feeling a lack of agency33:59: Proposing a vision for kids' tech use40:52: Concrete actions & conversations around technology50:17: The need for community among parents58:09: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions: What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What difficulties have you faced around technology & social media in your own life? In your children's lives?What does healthy tech use look like to you? What are your values around technology?What are technology & social media good for? What are the dangers of technology? How can you help your children enjoy the good and avoid the dangers?When you listen to the Holy Spirit, how are you being called to lead your family with regards to technology?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"As you sent me into the world, so I sent them into the world.”~ John 17:18How do I share the gospel when others aren't open to it?Can I be an authentic Christian if my job doesn't allow me to express it openly?How do I love people who are hostile toward my faith?Our world is fallen and broken, and in many ways it seems to be growing more opposed to the Christian life. Pat is joined by licensed therapist Isaac Wicker for a profound conversation about this struggle. Whether you're in school, at work, or with friends & family, we all find ourselves in a position of witnessing our faith to those who don't seem to be open to it. They might even be openly hostile toward the faith. But the call of Jesus is not to return vitriol with vitriol or to run away from the world, but rather to engage others with love and a willingness to preach the gospel at all times, with words and actions. Isaac Wicker is a Catholic therapist, speaker, and content creator with a decade of mental health experience. Outside of his therapy work, he founded and runs two online Catholic programs for integrating faith and mental health: Whole Human Challenge, a 7-week Catholic challenge to uproot anxiety and enliven faith; and KNOWN: Embraced by the Heart of the Father, a 12-week online Catholic journey to heal wounded relationships with God the Father. You can follow his instagram @knownbythefather and find him on YouTube @wholehumanpsychology. Isaac lives in Minnesota with his wife and three children.Episode 61 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards9:40: Living faith in a fallen world20:29: Being a living instance of a loving God28:10: A Catholic therapist in a secular mental health field37:30: The courage to go into the world47:11: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What secular environments do you live or work in? What challenges and opportunities do you find there?When has someone helped you know God's love when you felt unlovable? When have you shown God's love to another?What is the value of acknowledging someone's good desires, even if they're being lived out in unhealthy or sinful ways?Who is one person who you have a hard time loving, but needs the love of God through your witness?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“Have patience with all things, but chiefly have patience with yourself. Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections, but instantly set about remedying them - every day begin the task anew.” ~ St. Francis de SalesWhy are my habits so hard to change?Why do I keep doing the things I don't want to do?How do I build a new habit and get rid of others?In Episode 60, Kenna and Pat Millea take a deep dive into the psychology and spirituality of habit formation. They unpack the common struggles that we face when trying to build or break habits and encourage a self-compassionate approach that motivates us toward real change. Drawing insights from sources like Thomas Aquinas and James Clear's Atomic Habits, they explore how habits can align with spiritual goals and lead to a Christ-centered life. Whether you're hoping to be free from habitual sin or to create a workout routine, this episode offers practical tips for habit formation, paying attention to cues, cravings, responses, and rewards. Join us for a clearer way toward self-discipline and holiness! We're happy to share this episode of This Whole Life with the SEEK Podcast Network. Episode 60 Show NotesLearn more about SEEK 2025: Follow MeChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards9:21: Why habits matter18:33: The four stages of a habit29:05: Analyzing my cues & the way habits compound41:21: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?How can habit formation be a tool to enrich your spiritual life, and not just as an exercise in self-improvement? What are one or two bad habits that you want to break?What are one or two good habits that you want to create? How might you invite the Lord into the work of building good habits? What natural steps can you take through your own will & efforts?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Follow us on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me has not been in vain."~ 1 Corinthians 15:10Why do I react the way that I do?How much of my personality can I change?How does my temperament impact my relationships, my work, and my faith?Join Kenna and Pat as they dive into the fascinating world of temperaments with Art and Laraine Bennett, renowned authors of "The Temperament God Gave You." In this enriching episode, discover how understanding temperaments can lead to personal and spiritual growth, enhancing relationships and helping us to be more like Christ. The Bennetts explore the strengths and challenges of each temperament — choleric, sanguine, melancholic, and phlegmatic — and offer practical tools for navigating personal and interpersonal dynamics. Listen in as they discuss the importance of self-awareness, the power of community, and how temperaments can promote freedom and growth in holiness and virtue. This is a fantastic conversation that you don't want to miss.Art Bennett has a B.A. in philosophy and an M.A. in counseling psychology from Santa Clara University. He has co-authored three books on temperament and 6 books with Laraine and is a licensed (California and Virginia) Marriage and Family Therapist with more than 35 years of clinical experience. Laraine Bennett has a B.A. in philosophy from Santa Clara University and an M.A. in philosophy from the University of California, Santa Barbara. She created the game, Know Thyself! The Game of Temperaments (Sophia Institute Press, 2022) and has written two solo books. Art and Laraine are frequent speakers on marriage and family issues, both nationally and internationally. They have four adult children and eleven grandchildren.Episode 59 Show NotesDiscover your temperament!Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards12:41: Uncovering & sharing the temperaments18:25: Temperaments: the science of reactions28:42: What are the four temperaments?41:17: What's the point of understanding the temperaments?51:17: Can my temperament change over time?1:03:36: Challenge By ChoiceReflection Questions:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What is your temperament? How does your temperament affect your reactions?How might knowing your temperament help you grow in holiness & virtue?What do you understand about the temperaments of your spouse, children, and loved ones? How does that help your relationships?What is one weakness of your temperament that you feel compelled to address?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“Return home and recount what God has done for you.”~ Luke 8:39Where has the Lord been most clearly present in the story of your life?Is my story really worth telling?What good would it do to share my story with someone else? In this heartfelt and enriching episode of "This Whole Life," hosts Kenna and Pat Millea engage in a profound conversation with Fr. Angelus Montgomery, the vocations director for the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal. In the framework of "telling your story," they delve into themes of personal brokenness, healing, and the unique callings that reveal aspects of Jesus. Fr. Angelus shares his "second conversion" and the transformation it sparked, and he highlights the role of vulnerability, storytelling, and the Christian call to love others as Jesus did. Together, they explore how great storytelling in literature mirrors The Story, the beauty of being chosen by God, and the significance of stepping back to see life's bigger picture. Join them for a heartening dialogue - your story is worth it.Fr. Angelus Montgomery, CFR, a Nebraska native, is a priest with the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal, currently serving as the community's Vocation Director at Joseph Friary in Harlem, New York. Along with his duties in helping young men in their discernment, he is involved with the Community's outreach to the poor and vulnerable, and also is co-host of the Poco a Poco Podcast, produced by the CFR's. Fr. Angelus's heart is filled with gratitude to God for the gift of being a Franciscan priest and spiritual Father. Episode 58 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards11:33: Getting into story telling & story work22:11: Walking with others & Father's second conversion34:51: Finding healing through telling my story41:46: The power of saying it out loud57:19: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?When have you shared your story with someone else? How did they receive it?How has telling your story helped you receive healing and the love of God?What is difficult about telling your story? What is difficult about receiving the story of someone else?What is your reaction to the statement that we don't have to "fix" poverty, homelessness, etc.; we just have the love the person in front of us?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“Come see a man who told me everything I have done. Could he possibly be the Messiah?”~ John 4:29Is there a place in the Church for people with an LGBT+ experience?Does God have a joyful plan for people living with same-sex attraction?How can Christians love all people and uphold the teachings of the Church?  Pat Millea engages in a profound conversation with Shannon Ochoa, co-founder of Eden Invitation, and recurring guest Fr. Nathan LaLiberte. The episode explores the intricate intersection of faith, sexuality, and mental health, focusing on how to nurture whole-person formation for LGBT+ individuals within the Catholic Church. Shannon shares her personal journey of reconciling her faith with her attractions and the challenges faced along the way, highlighting the importance of God's grace, community, and unconditional love. Join us for insightful reflections on Jesus' mercy, the heart of true discipleship, and practical ways to support celibate individuals and foster a sense of belonging and dignity for all. We invite you into this deeply relevant and heartfelt conversation.Shannon Ochoa is the co-founder & vice president of Eden Invitation, where she directs programs, nurtures relationships, and develops community. Shannon graduated from the University of Wisconsin-Madison with degrees in Social Welfare and Gender & Women's Studies.  She has fallen for men and for women, but ultimately she fell for the beauty of Christ and His Church. Prior to founding Eden Invitation, Shannon worked in college campus ministry with The Evangelical Catholic and Brew City Catholic. If you're looking for her, try the shore of the nearest body of water. She'll be in a hammock.Episode 57 Show NotesLearn more about Eden InvitationChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards10:54: Shannon Ochoa's journey of faith & self-knowledge18:05: Bringing together faith & the LGBT+ experience31:33: Tying up heavy burdens & the woman at the well40:22: The work of Eden Invitation48:02: Practical wisdom for a LGBT+ person or a loved one57:58: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What experiences do you have with an LGBT+ experience or persons?What feelings surfaced in you during this conversation? What are those feelings telling you?How have you seen the Church and Christians respond well to LGBT+ persons? How have you feel Christians fail in their response?How can you better carry the burdens of others? How can you invite others to help carry your burdens?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"But woe to the solitary person! If that one should fall, there is no other to help."~ Ecclesiastes 4:10How do I know if I need therapy or spiritual direction?Why doesn't my pastor offer more counsel in confession?Do I need to talk to a priest or a therapist - or both?In episode 56, Kenna welcomes Fr. Nathan LaLiberte to delve into the nuanced interplay between confession, therapy, and spiritual direction. Together, they distinguish between these different, but sometimes overlapping, practices of spiritual & mental healing. Fr. Nathan shares his experience as a confessor and spiritual director, and now in school for counseling as well. Listeners are invited to evaluate how they seek spiritual and emotional guidance for the sake of their wholeness. Join us for an honest and clarifying conversation that's sure to help you know where to turn for support!Episode 56 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards21:54: Defining Therapy, Confession, & Spiritual Direction28:48: From confession to spiritual direction37:17: Parish life as primary spiritual direction44:41: Directing change & the various styles of spiritual direction53:25: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What experiences have you had with confession, spiritual direction, and/or therapy?How do you understand the differences between therapy and spiritual direction?When have you had a powerful experience of healing? Was it in confession, therapy, spiritual direction, or somewhere else?Which of these types of healing would you benefit most from right now?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed."~ John 8:36Is there hope for people who are stuck in addiction?Is healing really possible for everyone?If God really knows what I've done, how could he forgive me?In episode 55 of "This Whole Life," Pat engages in a profound conversation with guest Scott Weeman, founder of Catholic In Recovery. Scott shares his personal journey through addiction and finding a path to recovery through faith and humility. He reveals the connection he identified between the 12 Step recovery process and the sacraments, shedding light on the universal spiritual truths embedded within them.The dialogue delves into the significance of building a supportive community, reclaiming a sense of purpose, and finding hope amidst difficulty. Scott's insightful reflections and practical advice offer a beacon of encouragement to those navigating the complexities of addiction and seeking hope when things seem darkest. Join Pat and Scott on this transformative journey towards humility, recovery, and wholeness.Scott Weeman is the founder of Catholic In Recovery and the author of The Twelve Steps and the Sacraments: A Catholic Journey through Recovery. Scott was born and raised in northeast Wisconsin, and after high school he attended college in New York City and his experience around drugs and alcohol started to spin out of control. After a series of unconventional events, he found himself seeking the mercy of the Lord through the Catholic community in San Diego. Scott supports others in their recovery by writing on a variety of Catholic and twelve-step topics, speaking at events, and developing one-on-one relationships with those seeking help. He enjoys a wide range of recreational activities including sports, cooking, hiking, reading, traveling, and relaxing over a pot of hot tea. Scott lives with his wife and children in Nashville, Tennessee.Episode 55 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards10:13: Scott's story of addiction & recovery21:57: Christianity & the 12 Steps31:57: Facing & overcoming shame41:51: The virtue of humility (and humiliation) in recovery50:51: Finding joy & handling social situations in recovery56:16: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What experiences do you have in common with Scott's journey of addiction and recovery?In what ways do you, and those closest to you, struggle with freedom from addiction and compulsions?What is one substance or behavior that you feel challenged to give up for 3 weeks in order to gain greater freedom?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"There is an appointed time for everything, and a time for every affair under the heavens."~ Ecclesiastes 3:1Change is hard. Yet, it's something that every person experiences on a daily basis. How can something so universal be so difficult for us?In this episode of This Whole Life, Pat and Kenna dive into the challenges surrounding life changes and transitions. So many clients bring their questions and struggles to them when they're facing changes, and the hosts take time to reflect on the ways they have handled changes well and poorly in their lives. They stress the value of seeking support and connection during times of change, emphasizing the need to communicate openly with loved ones. Through thought-provoking conversation and practical advice, this episode provides valuable guidance on handling life's transitions with grace and resilience.Episode 54 Show NotesChapters:00:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards14:24: Highs & Hards19:42: Coping with change in a mentally healthy way26:00: Real life transitions that we handled well & poorly31:43: How to approach change in a healthy way43:53: Why change is so hard52:16: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What changes have you handled poorly in your life? What changes have you handled well?How easily do you tolerate change?What helps you to manage change in a healthy way?What tips from this episode might help you manage transitions better in the future?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"There is a God close to us who calls us by name and says: 'Rise, cease your tears, because I have come to free you!'"~ Pope FrancisPornography, masturbation, sexual sin, and sexual addiction are not only problems for men.In Episode 53, Kenna and guest Rachael Killackey confront the sensitive yet crucial topic of sexual sin and addiction among women through the lens of faith and mental health. The discussion addresses the complexities of female sexuality, the impact of "purity culture", and the essential role of women sharing and understanding each other's stories. The episode offers insights into the relational nature of women's hearts, the importance of parenting with both moral formation and humble openness, and the necessity of holistic faith-filled sexual education for children. Rachael also joyfully shares her journey of founding Magdala Ministries, the first of its kind in the Catholic Church, to support women struggling with sexual addiction. This beautiful episode offers a step toward hope and healing for women burdened by sexual sin, and clarity for those who want to better love & support the women in their lives. Join the conversation and take the next step toward freedom and wholeness!Rachael Killackey is the founder & executive director of Magdala Ministries and a Colorado native (depending on your definition of native). She earned her bachelors and masters degrees in Theology from Ave Maria University, and since first sharing her testimony in college, Rachael has had the privilege of hearing dozens of beautiful stories of healing from sexual addiction, and is pursuing certification in sexual addiction therapy. Rachael married her husband, Tommy, in 2021. They now live in Tampa, FL, with their daughter, where they enjoy the beach (almost) as much as they enjoy the mountains. Her book, Love in Recovery, is available through Ave Maria Press.Episode 53 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards12:30: The origins of Magdala Ministries & Rachael's healing journey20:10: Moving from addiction to openness & healing27:49: Gender differences & purity culture40:10: How can we help our daughters & granddaughters grow up in the age of pornography?48:22: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?Do you think woman have been excluded from discussions around sexual sin? Why or why not?What impact have you seen "purity culture" have on Catholic approaches to sex?How can parents help prepare their children to confront pornography in a healthy and resilient way?What kind of freedom has the Lord offered you in the face of sin?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"In your journey as a family, you share so many beautiful moments: meals, rest, housework, leisure, prayer, trips and pilgrimages, and times of mutual support…"~ Pope Francis, Letter to Families, February 2014Do you feel like you need a vacation to recover from your vacation?Have you spent time and money on trips that leave you feeling disappointed & frustrated?Do you have nightmares of children shouting "Are we there yet?" and arguments with relatives?Family trips and vacations are sources of such deep joy and fulfillment, but they can also bring so much stress, anxiety, and conflict. What strategies & approaches would help you get the most out of trips with family and friends? On the heels of a cross country road trip with their 7 children to spend a week with extended family, Pat & Kenna share some practical ways to make family trips more fruitful and peaceful. From communication about expectations and hopes to embracing healthy boundaries and car entertainment, we welcome you into this relevant and practical conversation. Listen in and share your own traveling tips & tricks with us! Episode 52 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Intro & This or That?: Movie edition16:48: Highs & Hards24:08: The joys & stresses of family trips28:10: Communicating hopes & fears before the trip35:51: Expectations & Boundaries on a trip46:20: Final practical tips for trips55:42: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?What memories do you have of trips you took growing up? What parts of those memories are joyful or painful?What do you appreciate about trips as an adult? What makes trips with family or friends stressful or difficult to manage?Why do you take trips? What values of yours are attached to trips with loved ones?How can communication about expectations and boundaries help create a more joyful trip?What tips & strategies have made your family trips more joyful?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"I no longer call you slaves, because a slave does not know what his master is doing. I have called you friends, because I have told you everything I have heard from my Father."~ John 15:15Friendship is one of the highest experiences of human life, but it can also be the source of some of our greatest pains and struggles. Why do we desire deep and abiding friendship? Are all friendships the same? What does the Lord desire in our friendships, and which friends are best for us?In episode 51 of This Whole Life, Pat is again joined by guest Fr. Luke Marquard to delve into the complex and profound topic of holy friendships. They explore the various levels of friendship, the importance of deep connections, and the role of faith in nurturing meaningful relationships. Drawing from personal experiences and insightful reflections, they highlight the beauty of seeing others as gifts and the pursuit of heavenly glory within friendships. Fr. Luke shares valuable insights on the influence of virtue, intentionally seeking of like-minded individuals while allowing ourselves to be challenged and stretched by our friends. With heartfelt discussions on the challenges of loneliness, manipulation in relationships, and the importance of incorporating Christ as the center of it all, this episode offers invaluable guidance for listeners seeking to deepen their connections and appreciate the gift of true friendships.Fr. Luke Marquard is pastor of St. Joseph Catholic Church in West St. Paul, Minnesota.Episode 51 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Intro, Over/Under and Highs & Hards16:19: Focus on Friendship22:57: The Three Levels of Friendship33:40: What does bad friendship look like?40:06: The parish as a source of friendship46:21: When it's hard to make good friends58:19: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?Who are your best friends? What makes them so valuable to you?Can you identify people in your life at all three levels of friendship? What feelings or reflections do you have about the people at those levels?How might healthy recreation and solitude lead to better and deeper friendships?What is the Christian vision of friendship, and how is it distinct from a more worldly version of friendship?When has someone been a true friend to you, and how did it impact your life?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"It is not the soul alone that should be healthy; if the mind is healthy in a healthy body, all will be healthy and much better prepared to give God greater service."~ St. Ignatius of LoyolaWhy do I respond to things differently from others?What can I do when I'm feeling overwhelmed?How can I help my kids process & respond to the world around them? Episode 50 brings an eminently relevant conversation between Kenna and guest Caitlin Russ, a trained occupational therapist. Together they bring out the importance of proactive strategies for managing sensory overload and daily stress, and the unique sensory responses of individuals in finding balance and well-being. Join Kenna and Caitlin as they explore the ways that God made our minds and bodies to receive sensory input, offering practical insights and strategies for navigating life's difficulties, transitions and various seasons.Caitlin Russ is an Occupational Therapist who spent years working in a pediatric outpatient clinic and with older adults in transitional care. She is passionate about educating people about the benefits of occupational therapy especially as it relates to regulation and sensory processing, and she now utilizes her training in raising her children. Caitlin received her degrees in Psychology and Peace Studies from the University of Notre Dame and went on to St. Catherine University for her Masters in Occupational Therapy. She currently resides with her husband, Sam, and their four, soon to be five, children in Inver Grove Heights, MN. They love spending time outdoors either at the baseball park or hiking.Episode 50 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards9:06: What is occupational therapy?20:48: Different people receive input differently33:44: How do I respond when I'm overwhelmed?49:25: Behavior can indicate needs56:17: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?How do you know when you're feeling overwhelmed? What signs do your loved ones give you when they're feeling overwhelmed?What kinds of sensory input are most likely to feel like "too much" for you and for those in your household?How do you regulate your senses when you've taken in too much input? How could your sensory capacity be stretched to tolerate more input? What parts of your sensory profile in need of being accepted as part of God's design for you?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Through Sunday rest, daily concerns and tasks can find their proper perspective: the material things about which we worry give way to spiritual values..."~ St. John Paul IISunday, the Lord's day, has a very particular purpose and call. But our world has diminished Sunday to look like any other day. How can Christians reclaim this part of their inheritance with reverence and rest on Sunday?Dr. Michael Naughton joins this episode of This Whole Life to explore the significance of reclaiming Sunday as a day of rest, celebration, and fulfillment of the commandment to keep the Sabbath holy. Dr. Naughton emphasizes the deep human need for rest and receptivity on the Lord's day, reflecting on the consequences of neglecting the Lord's day in his own family and work experiences. The conversation delves into the complexities involved in reframing and reclaiming Sundays. In a fallen world this is a messy project, but it's one that holds deep value for our wellbeing and for the health of our families. Join us as we explore the transformative power of honoring the Lord's day and unlocking the gifts that God desires to give us every Sunday.Dr. Michael Naughton is the director of the Center for Catholic Studies at the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, MN where he holds the Koch Chair in Catholic Studies and is a full professor in the department of Catholic Studies. He also taught in the College of Business for over 20 years. Author, co-author and co-editor of 12 books and monographs and over 60 articles, his most recent book is What We Hold in Trust: Rediscovering the Purpose of Catholic Higher Education (2021). He serves on multiple boards including as board chair for Reell Precision Manufacturing, which has plants and offices in the US, Europe and Asia and the board of trustees at the University of Mary and Catholic Eldercare.Episode 49 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards8:08: Why Sunday matters21:05: What happens if we get Sunday wrong? What happens when we get it right?33:28: Making the worthwhile sacrifices to reclaim Sunday42:57: A well-ordered life starts on Sunday55:48: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?How do your Sundays look right now?What are the ways that you currently honor the Lord's day? How are you feeling convicted to be more faithful to the Lord's day?What would being a "technosabbatarian" look like for you? How can Sunday be a day of distance from screens and social media?What sacrifices would you need to make in order to reclaim Sundays? How do you envision the graces from those sacrifices spilling over into your week?What is one way that you can better keep holy the Sabbath this coming Sunday?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“It is the love of God dwelling in our actions that makes us whole. It is love that keeps us sane.”~ Fr. Marc FoleyIt's the grand finale of our book club! In Episode 48, Kenna, Pat, and Fr. Nathan LaLiberte wrap up their discussion on The Love That Keeps Us Sane by Fr. Marc Foley. Together, they reflect on moments of conviction, the essence of love as our primary vocation, and the interwoven nature of holiness and sanity in everyday life. From personal anecdotes to spiritual insights, the trio navigates the challenges of showing true charity, letting go of expectations, and embracing the beauty of ordinary moments. It's appropriate that, in approaching a great saint who sought to do "small things with great love," we consider this small book with such great opportunities for transformation. Join the conclusion of this transformative journey as we all uncover the profound impact of living a life grounded in charity and authenticity. St. Thérèse of Lisieux, pray for us! It's never too late to join our book study on The Love That Keeps Us Sane by Fr. Marc Foley, OCD!Order your copy here Episode 48 Show NotesDid you miss Part 1 of our book study? Check out Episode 47 here.Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards10:43: Chapter 4: The Sanity of Loving Freely23:11: Chapter 5: The Divine Perspective of Charity31:10: Chapter 6: An Attended Life, an Authentic Life43:03: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one specific thing that you're taking away from this book study?How does the concept of being gentle with oneself and embracing "more littleness" resonate with your own experiences and reflections on life?Do you see the concern with "becoming a saint" as a focus on my efforts rather than on God's grace & mercy? What do you see as the defining goal of your life?How do you view love as your primary vocation in life, and how does that perspective influence your daily interactions and decisions?When is it most difficult for you to see people and situations with God's perspective? How might you see with the eyes of God more consistently?How might you apply the concept of right care (attentiveness in the doing) over wrong care (worry about the outcome) in your spirituality, relationships, and pursuits?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“Her ‘little way' was her means of holiness, and it was also what kept her sane.”~ Fr. Marc FoleyIt's book study time! At long last, Kenna and Pat are joined by Fr. Nathan LaLiberte to delve into the thought-provoking spiritual gem, The Love That Keeps Us Sane: Living the Little Way of St. Thérèse of Lisieux by Fr. Marc Foley, OCD. Drawing from the psychological and spiritual genius of St. Thérèse, they discuss the interplay between sanity and sanctity as a fruit of humility, the value of silence, and the complexities of human relationships. The conversation covers the perils of external validation, the significance of personal agency, and discerning what to share with others. As the trio reflects on the opportunities and struggles of seeking sanity and sanctity in a broken world, the conversation offers illuminating insights that touch on the intersection of faith, mental well-being, and everyday life. Join them in the pursuit of authenticity in spiritual practices. Be a part of our book study on The Love That Keeps Us Sane by Fr. Marc Foley, OCD: Order your copy here Episode 47 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards12:51: Intro to The Love That Keeps Us Sane26:01: Chapter 1: The Secrets That Keep Us Sane37:12: Chapter 2: Finding Her Way53:41: Chapter 3: The Sanity of Silence1:06:56: Challenge By Choice Questions for Reflection & Discussion:What are your previous experiences and impressions of St. Thérèse of Lisieux? Is this book showing you a new side of her?Fr. Foley says that Thérèse "had the genius of knowing how to love others without becoming entangled or enmeshed in their problems." When are you able to love like this? When you do you struggle to love without becoming enmeshed?How would you distinguish between bad secrets that lead to shame and the "secrets of the King"? How do you decide whether to give someone access to your interior life?Thérèse lived in complete commitment to humility, even anonymity. How are you motivated by fame & being validated by others? What would greater humility look like for you?What do you think of Thérèse's personal motto, "the loser always wins"? How can such a counter cultural motto lead to greater sanity & sanctity for you?How do you decide whether to speak your mind or to remain silent? What motivations, values, and consequences do you consider when making that decision?Send us a text. We're excited to hear what's on your mind!Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Holiness consists simply in doing God's will, and being just what God wants us to be."~ St. Thérèse of LisieuxThis Whole Life returns to its roots! In episode 46, Kenna is joined by Fr. Marc Foley, OCD, author of the seminal work that led to this very podcast: The Love That Keeps Us Sane: Living the Little Way of St. Thérèse of Lisieux.  Together, Kenna and Fr. Marc delve into the complexities of human nature and God's work in the midst of our messy thoughts, emotions, and relationships. As Fr. Marc explains, St. Thérèse of Lisieux is far more relevant to our 21st century experience than we might initially think. In preparation for our upcoming book study (episodes 47 & 48) on The Love That Keeps Us Sane, Fr. Marc shares insights from his extensive psychological and spiritual experience, emphasizing the value of patience with oneself while working toward greater virtue. The discussion covers topics such as resisting the temptation to create a perfect persona, managing the balance between acceptance without complacency, and interpreting human experiences from a spiritual perspective. We live in a fallen, and often insane, world; it is the love of God lived through us every day that keeps us sane.Fr. Marc Foley, O.C.D. entered the Discalced Carmelites in 1967 as a lay brother and was ordained a priest in 1981. He studied psychology at the Catholic University of America and continued on to receive a Master of Divinity. He later earned M.S. and CAS degrees in Pastoral Counseling at Loyola College in Baltimore. Fr. Foley has served as a parish priest, a postulant director, a director of formation, and a professor. Fr. Marc is currently the prior of the Carmelite monastery in Washington, D.C., a spiritual director, an author, and the publisher of ICS Publications. Get ready for our book study on The Love That Keeps Us Sane by Fr. Marc Foley, OCD: Order your copy here Episode 46 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introducing Fr. Marc Foley, OCD11:13: Human nature in conflict with itself17:48: Radical Acceptance without Complacency23:01: Temptations as a path to virtue, not just vice32:13: Pay attention to what you desire and you'll find out what you're avoiding42:50: There's no step too big, but a step can be too small50:12: How St. Thérèse's life speaks to us todayQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one thing that stuck out to you from this episode?How have you experienced your own "human nature in conflict with itself"?When have you been discouraged by your failures? When has God's grace broken through and consoled you in your despair?How are your desires an indication of what you might be avoiding?What might St. Thérèse be able to teach you about your own "cloister" life with the people you interact with most?Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“The loveliest masterpiece of the heart of God is the heart of a mother.”~ St. Thérèse of LisieuxThe arrival of a child is an unspeakable gift and a grace for which to be thankful. But there can also be deeply painful moments during pregnancy and after the baby arrives. Millions of mothers know the hardship of postpartum depression, anxiety, distance from their spouse, disappointment, difficulty nursing, and the resulting shame. Is there anything we can do in the middle of such big, and sometimes surprising, challenges?Dr. Lyndsey Day joins Kenna for a beautiful and deeply real conversation about the mental health challenges associated with pregnancy and the postpartum months. Dr. Day's faith allows her to journey with women as an OB-GYN in a way that is a ministry and a mission for the good of mothers and families. She and Kenna discuss the reasons that the postpartum period is so difficult, impactful options for offering healing & support to mothers, and the impossible expectations that women so often feel. Join us for an encouraging and consoling conversation that is hand-made for all mothers & those who love them!Dr. Lyndsey Day received her Bachelor of Science degree in Biology with a minor in Chemistry from Saint Ambrose University and her medical degree from the University of Iowa. She completed her residency in Obstetrics and Gynecology at Loyola University Medical Center just outside of Chicago, Illinois. Dr. Day has a passion for women's healthcare and thoroughly enjoys providing obstetric and gynecologic care to women throughout all phases of life. Dr. Day loves to garden and hike and be with her family. Dr. Day's husband and 5 children fill her life with much joy, many trips to Costco, a fair amount of life experience, a small menagerie that the kids are constantly trying to add to (currently includes 4 cats and a golden retriever), and so very much love.Episode 45 Show NotesFor more information on help for postpartum depression, including support groups, visit postpartumdepression.orgGet ready for our book study on The Love That Keeps Us Sane by Fr. Marc Foley, OCD: order your copy hereChapters:00:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards11:24: OB-GYN medicine as a ministry21:10: Dealing with disappointment in parenthood26:47: Postpartum mood disorders36:53: The place for medication & Giving yourself grace50:24: Surrendering to God's will 53:58: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one thing that stuck out to you from this episode?Mothers, what was your pregnancy and postpartum experience like? What were the greatest joys and struggles?What are some of the unfair expectations that mothers feel? What contributes to these expectations?Why do so many mothers feel shame about their postpartum struggles? How can you hThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."~ John 13:35It's time to be honest: we all have people in our lives that we don't particularly enjoy. Their personality or quirks might rub us the wrong way, or maybe we don't agree with their opinions or choices. They're not necessarily bad people, we just don't like being around them. And while we're being honest, we can also admit that we can be difficult to deal with ourselves. So what do we do, as Christians, when we don't like someone?Pat & Fr. Nathan LaLiberte take on a heartfelt exploration of dealing with difficult people. They embrace the struggle of relatable hardships with family members, coworkers, and neighbors in a blend of faith, mental health, and the quest for constant charity and authentic joy. In drawing important distinctions between love and "liking" someone, and between kindness and "niceness", they highlight the Christian obligation to love challenging individuals. Don't miss this opportunity to gain a fresh perspective on loving difficult people, and to embrace authenticity and patience in the process!Episode 44 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Intro & This or That?17:01: Defining "difficult people"23:02: Christian love vs. "liking" someone28:51: Examples of Jesus dealing with difficult people39:42: Real life situations & choosing love54:03: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one thing that stuck out to you from this episode?Being careful to avoid gossip or detraction, when have you found it difficult to be around someone? What did you recognize about yourself in that situation?What are the differences between liking someone and loving them? How does the Christian understanding of these ideas differ from the world's understanding?When have you been a difficult person in someone else's life? How might reflecting on those times help you grow in patience and mercy toward others?Who is someone that you find it difficult to relate to right now? In what tangible ways can you love them by choosing their good?Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Pure love is capable of great deeds, and it is not broken by difficulty or adversity."~ St. FaustinaDo you have the same arguments over and over again? Are you frustrated by a lack of connection in your relationship? Is it possible to still be connected when you disagree with the person you love?In this episode, Kenna and Pat Millea explore the transformative power of prioritizing Process over Content in communication and relationships. They delve into the significance of empathy and vulnerability in fostering genuine connection, especially during times of hardship or conflict. Through personal anecdotes from their own marriage, Kenna and Pat demonstrate the healing potential of empathy and authenticity in a relationship. The truth is that our arguments aren't really about the content: the thing that happened or what someone said. On a deeper level, our conflicts are about the process: how we were affected, and how badly we desire to be loved, known, and understood, even in times of conflict.Join Pat & Kenna for a fun and fruitful episode and take the next step toward conflict that connects!Episode 43 Show NotesChapters:00:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards13:52: Empathy creates connection22:24: Process over Content28:59: Fostering connection by focusing on Process41:15: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one thing that is sticking with you from this episode?What is a time that someone has truly empathized with you and worked to understand your feelings? How did that make you feel?When have you fallen into the trap of prioritizing being "right" over fostering understanding and connection in a conflict? How might a focus on Process over Content have led to a different outcome?When is it most tempting to get bogged down in content? How can you focus on process instead?What is a first step you can make to prioritizing process over content moving forward?Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?"~ 1 Corinthians 6:19"Why isn't my body different?""Why did God give me this particular body?" "What if I feel frustrated by, or even hate, my own body?"All of us have feelings & questions about the bodies that God has given us, and sometimes those feelings can become deep experiences of sadness, disgust, or shame; especially in a culture that idolizes only some appearances & body types. In this episode of This Whole Life, Kenna invites Megan Lawrence, LAMFT in that tender and crucial conversation to help shed light on the dark places of struggles with body image. Drawing on Megan's personal and clinical experience with eating disorders, they reflect on the meaning and purpose of the human body as God's gift for the good of his children. And informed by St. John Paul II's Theology of the Body, they propose a stance of non-judgment as a path toward acceptance of your body as the beautiful and definitive gift that it is.Megan is a Licensed Associate Marriage and Family Therapist who holds a Master's Degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of Nebraska - Lincoln.  Megan approaches therapy through an attachment-based, trauma-informed lens, and is trained in EMDR.  She has specific experience within eating disorder recovery. Megan received bachelor degrees in Studio Art, Printmaking and Drawing, and Art History from Drake University.  While serving four years as a missionary with the Fellowship of Catholic University Students (FOCUS), Megan's passion deepened for accompanying others on their healing journey. She enjoys exploring art museums, thrift stores, and the outdoors. Episode 42 Show NotesIf you or someone you love may be struggling with an eating disorder, please reach out for support. The National Eating Disorders Association is a great place to start.Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards10:45: Understanding body image & eating disorders26:36: The power of the Theology of the Body39:15: Gratitude for the body & acceptance of the body50:08: Challenge By ChoiceQuestions for Reflection & Discussion:What is one thing that is sticking with you from this episode?What feelings do you have about discussing body image & your own body?When have you had a difficult time seeing your body as a good & valuable gift from God? What experiences led to those difficulties?Do you see the value of your body in its appearance (the way it looks), in its function (in what it can do), or as a gift (the simple fact that God gave it to you)?How does God see & value your body? What do you imagine God wants you to know about your body?Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"...and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us." ~ Romans 5:5So much of human life is marked by shame and guilt. We feel the weight of our mistakes, sins, and failures. Shame and guilt are both difficult to feel, but are they both bad? Do they serve a purpose? Do they drive us closer to God or farther from Him?In episode 41 of This Whole Life, Fr. Nathan LaLiberte returns for a conversation that delves deep into the themes of shame, guilt, and our personal struggles with them. Together with Pat & Kenna, they reflect on the Biblical roots of shame and guilt and the ways that they each affect our spiritual lives & relationships. The discussion also touches on the factors that contribute to shame, the antidotes to shame, and the place that guilt holds in a healthy spiritual life. Despite the weighty topics around self-talk and self-condemnation, the episode is punctuated with lighthearted banter and humor, as you are invited to explore your internal monologue and to begin overcoming shame.Episode 41 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards15:52: The origin & roots of shame20:29: The ingredients of shame24:49: The antidotes to shame33:58: The value of guilt42:53: Examples of shame vs. guilt48:15: Challenge By ChoiceDiscussion & reflection questions:How do you distinguish between shame and guilt?Reflect on a time when you experienced shame and how it affected your self-image. What steps have you taken to address these emotions and move towards healing?Consider the difference between guilt and shame in your own life. How do these experiences show up in your thoughts and actions? Explore the impact of internal dialogue on your emotions, behaviors, and relationships. How can recognizing and reshaping negative self-talk contribute to a healthier sense of self-worth and compassion for others?When was a time that you brought a fear or humiliation into the light and shared it with another? What was the result of that process? What did you learn from it?Thank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"My friends, if anyone is detected in a transgression, you who have received the Spirit should restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness. Take care that you yourselves are not tempted."~ Galatians 6:1Why is it so tempting to speak harshly to the people that we love most in the world? How do we overcome this habit and speak with the gentleness that comes from the Holy Spirit? In this final installment of their four-part series on Dr. John Gottman's 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse for relationships, Kenna and Pat discuss Criticism. They delve into the importance of clear behavioral requests, replacing criticism with positive interactions, and the concept of a "gentle startup" as the antidote to criticism in relationships & marriages. Drawing from their own experiences, they emphasize the detrimental effects of criticism on emotional connection and vulnerability. This episode offers an insightful and heartfelt exploration of emotional connection, personal growth, and the impact of communication dynamics in relationships - not to mention a heated discussion about popular musicians.Join Pat & Kenna as they close their series on the 4 Horsemen, and get ready to embrace a more connected and joyful relationship!Episode 40 Show NotesCheck out the first 3 episodes of the 4 Horsemen series:Episode 14: Defeating DefensivenessEpisode 18: Tearing Down Walls & Building A Connected Marriage (on Stonewalling)Episode 30: Conquering Contempt Chapters:00:00: Intro & a new music-related game18:22: Highs & Hards27:42: Explaining Criticism, the last of the Four Horsemen for relationships42:03: The antidote to Criticism50:09: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."~ 2 Corinthians 3:17How often do we hear that someone is "obsessed" with a new show or that they keep a clean home because they're "a little OCD"? The reality is that the burden of OCD weighs heavily on millions of people who suffer with this disorder, and on those who love them. How can we understand OCD and its effects on faith? And, even more importantly, how can we support those who are working on healing from OCD - or seek help and support ourselves?In Episode 39 of "This Whole Life," Kenna welcomes Dr. Katherine Posch, a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and anxiety disorders. They tackle the complexities of OCD and its terrible cycle. Dr. Posch emphasizes evidence-based treatments, including Exposure and Response Prevention therapy, and offers a hope-filled way forward for those struggling with religious OCD or scrupulosity. Through personal experiences and professional expertise, the episode offers hope, understanding, and practical guidance for those impacted by OCD - and for all of us who can be stuck in a place of fear and anxiety. Freedom is real and possible!Katherine Posch, Psy.D., LP is a licensed clinical psychologist at  Renew Behavioral Health in Minneapolis, Minnesota. She is a graduate of the University of Texas at Austin and earned her Doctor of Psychology in Clinical Psychology from Baylor University. She completed a clinical internship at George E. Wahlen Veterans Hospital in Salt Lake City, Utah and a Postdoctoral Fellowship in PCBH/Health Psychology at Hennepin Healthcare Medical Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Find out more about Katherine's work at renewbehavioralmn.com.Episode 39 Show NotesThe International OCD Foundation & their provider directoryChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards15:17: What is OCD?26:15: Treating OCD & discovering hope39:19: Approaching OCD related to faith & religious practice47:51: Supporting a loved one struggling with OCD53:45: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

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"And whatever you do, in word or in deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."~ Colossians 3:17Marriage and family life is a beautiful, romantic, sacramental vocation. And in the midst of that vocation, spouses also need to deal with finances, schedules, meal plans, parenting, budgets, and to-do lists. How are we supposed to maintain an organized home and family while being connected to each other in love & faithfulness? In Episode 38, Kenna and Pat invite listeners into the concept of Family Meetings — a deliberate practice that allows couples to navigate their roles and responsibilities, as well as support their shared values and goals. With wisdom and practical tips, they discuss the benefits and structure of their Family Meetings, offering valuable advice for listeners seeking intentional living and unity within their families. Through prayer, reflection, and concrete planning, family meetings can be transformative in fostering a deeper, more purposeful connection within the home.Episode 38 Show NotesClick to download your Family Meeting Agenda templateChapters00:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards10:21: The value of family meetings20:27: The practicals that support our values29:29: The Family Meeting Agenda40:44: Takeaways from the family meeting43:25: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Bear with one another and, if anyone has a complaint against another, forgive each other; just as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive."~ Colossians 3:13In the prayer that Jesus gave us, we hear: "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." We pray these words so often that we can overlook how challenging, and even unpopular, we find the reality of forgiveness. We have all been hurt by others, sometimes in profound and life-altering ways. Why would Jesus command us to do something as difficult - maybe even irrational - as forgiving?In episode 37 of "This Whole Life", Kenna and Pat Millea delve into the complexities of forgiveness with Fr. Nathan LaLiberte. Together, they explore the spiritual, emotional, and psychological freedom that forgiveness brings, emphasizing its importance for personal wholeness and healthy relationships. The conversation touches on the challenges of seeking and offering forgiveness, the difference between forgiveness and reconciliation, and the significance of self-forgiveness. Drawing from Christian truths and psychological perspectives, the episode offers insights into the transformative power of forgiveness, emphasizing the ongoing process of releasing resentment and embracing personal freedom. Begin or continue your path toward freedom and healing with this impactful conversation!Episode 37 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards10:07: Forgiveness is essential25:30: Practical approaches to forgiveness37:15: HOW do I forgive?47:09: How can I forgive myself?51:53: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me has not been ineffective."~ 1 Corinthians 15:10As humans living in a fallen world, we often feel the space between our hopes and reality, and in that space we find disappointment, frustration, and heartbreak. Our relationships, our families, our work are marked by this hardship. What do we do when we are so tempted to either deny reality or wallow in the difficulty?In episode 36 of "This Whole Life," Kenna and Pat delve into the topic of radical acceptance, navigating the complexities and challenges of embracing this skill in everyday life - especially during the holiday season. They share personal stories and insights on practicing radical acceptance, emphasizing the importance of Acknowledging, Honoring, and Accepting reality in order to move forward in hope and joy. From dealing with difficult relationships to facing professional uncertainties, Kenna and Pat illustrate how radical acceptance can lead to emotional growth and newfound possibilities. Radical acceptance does NOT mean accepting sin or giving up our efforts to work for better relationships and situations. Rather, radical acceptance allows us to move forward with purpose by clarifying our starting point in the present moment.Join us for this hopeful, real, and relevant conversation!Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards13:50: Lightning Round: Hot Takes25:29: Exploring Radical Acceptance39:51: Real life example of radical acceptance54:52: Challenge By ChoiceEpisode 36 Show NotesThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"It is necessary that the heroic becomes daily and that the daily becomes heroic."~ Saint Zélie MartinIn this fallen world, there are particular evils that require the grace of God and the support of loved ones to overcome. Pornography certainly falls into this category. In the second half of the conversation about pornography, Pat & Kenna discuss the consequences that brokenness and addiction had for their marriage. They also recall key moments that led them to reconciliation and deeper intimacy. Loving relationships, especially marriages, are the ones most affected by pornography and sin of any kind. And it's also true that loving relationships and marriages are one of the most powerful agents of healing on the path to recovery and wholeness. How can we restore a sense of unity and connection when hope seems lost in a relationship? How do we even begin to build trust when there has been so much betrayal? Join Pat & Kenna for this forthright conversation, and get ready to move toward authenticity and communion!Episode 35 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards11:19: Continuing the conversation on pornography14:29: Responding to listener questions26:18: How healing & hope looked in our marriage41:33: Earning & building trust50:10: United together against a threat to our marriage55:23: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Create in me a clean heart, O God..."~ Psalm 51:12How can something that affects all of us be something that we almost never talk about honestly and purposefully? Pornography has infiltrated individuals, marriages, families, and the Church, and it's time to deal with it in ways that are faithful and fruitful. In this incredibly candid episode, Pat and Kenna dive into an intimate and inspiring discussion about the impact of pornography within their marriage and their own personal journeys. With raw vulnerability, they reveal the emotional toll, struggles, and triumphs experienced during Pat's journey to recovery and their path to healing in their marriage.From the deceptive nature of pornography's allure to the deep wounds inflicted, Pat and Kenna unpack the complexities and offer personal insights into navigating the aftermath. Together, they explore the transformative power of openness and healing, emphasizing the need for accountability, grace, and compassion in the face of addiction. This compelling episode addresses the profound effects of pornography on relationships and highlights the resilience and growth that can emerge from facing such challenges. Join Pat and Kenna as they courageously share their story, offering wisdom, hope, and guidance for all navigating similar struggles.Please send us your questions and feedback to include for the next episode of this 2-part series on pornography! You can send us a message on Instagram or Facebook, or send us an email at thiswholelife@martincenterforintegration.com. Episode 34 Show Notes (Including all the great resources for overcoming pornography mentioned in the episode)Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards11:53: When pornography is personal20:33: Explaining this 2-part series & studies on porn25:59: When did you know that porn was a problem?37:08: Feeling a loss of worth & maintaining boundaries45:00: What helped turn things around?55:56: Getting past porn to the deeper wounds1:00:45: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"To attribute the efficacy of prayers or of sacramental signs to their mere external performance, apart from the interior dispositions that they demand, is to fall into superstition."~ Catechism of the Catholic Church §2111Let's face it: it's really scary to realize that we're not in control, and that's understandable. But grasping for control through superstition is, at best, fruitless and can even be mentally and spiritually harmful. From rabbit's feet and lucky coins to empty "religious" routines, superstitions are all around us.In Episode 33, Pat Millea delves into the intriguing topic of superstition and its impact on our lives and faith. Joined by guest Fr. Nathan LaLiberte, they explore the dangers of relying on superstitious practices and the importance of giving God alone control in our lives. They examine the consequences of seeking control through superstitious beliefs and highlight the need to break free from these shackles, which can even constrain our otherwise good religious practices. From discussing the physical aspects of Catholicism to the connection between superstition and OCD, Pat and Fr. Nathan provide insight and a way forward in trust of God. Join us for this relatable and relevant conversation that we all need!Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards13:59: What is superstition & what's wrong with it?24:02: Examples of religious superstitions34:00: The impact of superstition on mental health44:24: Superstitions vs. Genuine virtue in faith47:21: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"I do not ask that you take them out of the world but that you keep them from the evil one. ... As you sent me into the world, so I sent them into the world."~ John 17:15, 18Let's face it: the fallen world around us is a difficult place to be. We, who desire a healthy and holy life, are surrounded by secular influences and misguided worldviews. What are we supposed to do? How do we stay sane and holy in a secular world? It can be tempting to either give in to the values of this world or run away from it altogether.But the life and ministry of St. Paul offers us a middle path: engaging the secular as a means of leading others toward the sacred. In this episode, Pat & Kenna are joined by Fr. Nathan LaLiberte and Fr. Luke Marquard in Athens, Greece near the end of a pilgrimage in the footsteps of St. Paul. Together, they delve into the difficult - but invaluable - call to be leaven in the world and to reject fear. This has crucial and practical implications for us, our children, the Church, and the world. Be not afraid!Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards12:11: The Sacred & the secular23:44: The tradition of "baptizing" secular places & actions30:29: Rejecting objective evil vs. a rigid dismissal of the secular35:43: The value of prudence in making wise choices45:37: Paul in Corinth & Titus on Crete51:33: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"We should strive to keep our hearts open to the sufferings and wretchedness of other people, and pray continually that God may grant us that spirit of compassion which is truly the spirit of God."~ St. Vincent de Paul ➡️"Snowplow" parenting, friendship, or marriage➡️Trying to fix other people's problems ➡️Over-functioningWe care so deeply for our loved ones, and it pains us to watch them struggle and suffer. Sometimes it is good and necessary to help alleviate their suffering. But all of us are tempted to cross the line into interfering in others' lives in order to assuage our own discomfort. But where is the line, and how is over-functioning harmful to people and relationships?Using real-life examples and their unique perspectives as therapist, minister, and parents, Kenna and Pat discuss the dangers of "snowplowing" and the impact it can have on personal growth and relationships. They also reflect on the profound suffering endured by Jesus and his mother, and how their example can guide us in supporting our loved ones in the midst of their own struggles. Join us as we explore together the beautiful opportunity to sit with our loved ones in their hardship and, at the same time, offer them the gift of growth and resilience.Chapters:0:00: Intro & Highs and Hards12:26: Introduction to overfunctioning18:02: Overfunctioning is about MY discomfort, not my loved one's23:15: Examples of overfunctioning in film & Scripture31:08: Mary as a witness of sitting with someone in the struggle40:31: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"All bitterness, fury, anger, shouting, and reviling must be removed from you, along with all malice. And be kind to one another, compassionate, forgiving one another as God has forgiven you in Christ."~ Ephesians 4:31-32On the wedding day, most couples can't imagine ever treating their spouse with contempt. But in this broken world, we know that so many marriages suffer with belittling speech and actions. How does a marriage devolve into habits of contempt, and what are the antidotes to get the relationship back on track?Drawing from their own experiences and insights from relationship expert John Gottman, Kenna and Pat discuss the third - and most dangerous - of Dr. John Gottman's "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" for marriages: Contempt. They discuss the power of positive interactions, not only through words but also through body language and gestures of love and warmth. Reflecting on personal stories and Scripture, they shed light on the damaging effects of contempt and its connection to feelings of superiority and inadequacy. Tune in to discover practical tips and ideas for cultivating healthy, kind, and contempt-free relationships in this relatable and encouraging episode.Episode 30 Show NotesChapters:00:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards15:05: Understanding Contempt in relationships22:41: How does contempt show up in marriages?34:46: Contempt can be nonverbal38:08: Antidote #1 to cure contempt45:58: Antidote #2 to cure contempt54:03: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"As a body is one though it has many parts, and all the parts of the body, though many, are one body, so also Christ."~ 1 Corinthians 12:12You were made by our loving God to be an amazing human person - a beautiful integration of mind, body, and soul all working in dynamic harmony. But each of us who are fallen experience dis-integration, and the parts of us don't always exist in cohesive unity. We might think things like "Part of me wants to do this, but part of me doesn't", or "Why does a part of me seem to complicate things that should be simple?", or even "I hate that part of myself." How can we recover a sense of our True Self and move toward greater unity within ourselves?This Whole Life welcomes guest Louisa Hall to delve into the fascinating world of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy. Louisa shares their personal journey of understanding mental health and the significance of integrating different parts within one's internal system. She recounts her experiences with a friend diagnosed with bipolar disorder, the lack of mental health support in some ministry settings, and her own therapy journey. From True Self to Protectors to Exiles, Louisa explains the roles of various parts and the transformative power of IFS. Louisa and Kenna also highlight the crucial alignment between IFS and the Catholic understanding of the human person, while highlighting the importance of self-compassion, understanding, and finding one's true self. With anecdotes and insights, Louisa and Kenna explore the integration process, the impact of IFS on relationships, and the hope and flexibility it offers. Join them as they provide practical steps for you to understand and embrace your own interior world.Louisa has a Bachelor of Science degree in psychology with an emphasis in experimental psychology from Minnesota State University, Mankato. Currently, Louisa is enrolled as a graduate student at Divine Mercy University seeking to obtain her Master's in Science degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. She enjoys pondering new ideas and questions, reading books, creating, and spending time in nature. Louisa recognizes that faith, truth, and God's mercy have influenced her journey of healing. Episode 29 Show NotesChapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards13:04: Introducing Internal Family Systems21:01: Integrating our parts like a jazz band (not multiple personalities)34:40: How do we recognize our True Self?41:40: Louisa's reflection & personal example of IFS parts work53:30: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"The world offers you comfort, but you were not made for comfort. You were made for greatness."~ Pope Benedict XVIWe live in a world that often seems to be designed for our human comfort. We now have access to temperature-controlled homes, split-second mobile computers in our pockets, fast food, and delivery services. And as comedian Louis C.K. once said, "Everything is amazing right now, and nobody's happy."Why do we find ease and comfort so enticing but, ultimately, so disappointing? Why do we so often chase pleasure after pleasure, never finding true fulfillment in the things of this world? Is there a higher call for us in this earthly pilgrimage? Pat & Kenna welcome Isaac Schmidt, a college student well acquainted with discomfort and difficulty, into the conversation to discuss the Christian call to heroic holiness rather than comfort. Step into the discussion and be prepared to reject mere comfort and to strive for greatness!Isaac Schmidt is a student at the University of Mary in Bismarck, North Dakota studying business and construction management. He graduated from St. Agnes Catholic High School in 2022 and was honored with the Palm Award, the school's highest honor. Selected by the faculty, the award honors one young man and young woman from the senior class who have achieved excellence in virtually all areas: Faith, academics, activities, athletics, character, virtue, leadership, friendship, and service. Isaac is also an accomplished athlete, placing at the Minnesota high school state wrestling tournament, and he recently spent 9 weeks on a fishing boat off the coast of Alaska. Chapters:00:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards09:44: Introducing Isaac Schmidt16:16: You were made for greatness, not comfort23:23: Confronting the desire for comfort30:43: Discomfort that leads to spiritual growth34:36: Good mental health care isn't downplaying discomfort & hardship, but learning how to move through it40:03: Choosing good, uncomfortable things especially in human relationships49:55: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“Soon we'll have the intimate happiness of the family, and it's this beauty that brings us closer to God.”~ St. Louis MartinThe Terrible Twos. Three-nagers. A-Four-itarian. It's time to dive into the wild world of parenting toddlers (and kids of any age) with a blend of wisdom, humor, and relatability! Drawing from their own experiences as parents to a brood of seven children, ranging from 3 to 12 years old, Pat & Kenna share 10 valuable and hard-earned tips to help navigate the challenges that come with raising little ones.From the struggle of saying "yes" to the importance of addressing underlying needs behind challenging behaviors, this episode offers practical advice on fostering connection, emotional regulation, and secure attachment. We'll also stress the importance of asking for help and identifying one area to focus on for progress in parenting.With encouragement and authenticity, Kenna and Pat remind listeners that they are not alone on this journey and that small steps can lead to big changes in creating a joyful, connected, and fulfilling home.Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards17:26: Intro to Parenting Toddlers23:04: #1: Connection Before Correction26:03: #2: Empathy, Empathy, Empathy28:39: #3: Physically get on their level, Emotionally do NOT get on their level31:26: #4: Prioritize things with your toddler that bring you JOY34:02: #5: Ask questions instead of making assumptions38:40: #6: Take a breath & take a break41:53: #7: Behavior demonstrates a need47:06: #8: Start with ONE thing49:53: #9: How can I say yes?53:06: #10: Ask for help56:38: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

"Be angry but do not sin; do not let the sun set on your anger, and do not leave room for the devil."~ Ephesians 4:26-27ANGER. It's a word that brings up so many feelings and reactions for each of us. Some struggle to control their anger, and others are tempted to ignore or squash their angry feelings. How are we, as followers of Christ, supposed to understand anger? Is anger an emotion or a sin? Is it involuntary or can we learn to control it? Is there a way that we might even be able to bring good out of anger?In this episode, Fr. Nathan LaLiberte joins Pat & Kenna to talk about a view of anger from a perspective of sound psychology and Catholic teaching. You'll come away with a better understanding of how to identify, communicate, and process anger in ways that can actually benefit our relationships with God and others.Episode 26 Show NotesChapters:0:00 Introduction and Highs & Hards14:08: What is anger?21:45: The power of anger to overcome evil32:17: What do we with our anger?42:07: Having empathy for my anger47:23: Speaking on behalf of my anger53:51: Challenge By ChoiceThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.

“Man cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself.”~ St. John Paul IIIt sounds so simple: do good things that make me healthy, happy, & holy and avoid the things that stop me from thriving. But so often we feel like St. Paul: "For I do not do the good I want, but I do the evil I do not want" (Romans 7:19). How do we practically move toward greater wholeness in our thoughts and actions, and how do we make that journey in the context of a marriage?Andy Norton joins This Whole Life to share a valuable tool that he and his wife developed called Integrated Pathfinding. Integrated Pathfinding is based on a therapeutic intervention called Behavioral Activation, which they adapted with a foundation of faith into a weekly process for the good of their marriage and family life.If you have a desire to follow the Lord more consistently and to be more connected to your spouse in the process, you'll love this conversation and the resource it offers! Be sure to check out the Episode 25 show notes for a pdf step-by-step guide to Integrated Pathfinding.Andy Norton is a passionate and mission-driven Catholic man with a desire to foster wholeness and holiness in the lives of God's people. He worked in ministry for 14 years, including evangelization work with FOCUS and NET Ministries. Andy is a graduate of the Franciscan University of Steubenville with a Master's in Theology from the Augustine Institute. He now works as a Production Support Developer and lives in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife Sarah and their 4 children. Chapters:0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards15:22: Introducing Andy Norton24:08: Context for Behavioral Activation36:45: The value of Integrated Pathfinding40:37: Marriage isn't about keeping score46:18: Healthy boundaries in self-discovery52:33: Shared meaning in the midst of conflict56:47: Challenge By Choice & step-by-step Integrated PathfindingThank you for listening! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas.Check us out on Instagram & FacebookInterested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for IntegrationMusic: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.