Podcasts about Avenue B

The drummer and percussionist Billy Martin, whose name many Time Sensitive listeners may recognize—he created the Time Sensitive theme song—defies any boxed-in or limiting definitions of his work. Best known as a member of the band Medeski Martin & Wood (MMW), he's spent the past three-plus decades making experimental, boundary-pushing, and uncategorizable instrumental jazz-funk-groove music, shaping sounds that feel as expansive as they are definitive and distinctive. Across all his artistic output, Martin continually, meditatively searches for harmony. He is also a composer, a teacher, a visual artist, and a builder and craftsman. His expansive creative practice comes most alive at his home in Englewood, New Jersey, where he has cultivated a bamboo garden, crafted his own Japanese-style teahouse, and constructed a music studio. Martin is someone for whom rhythm is not just something heard, but also seen and felt.On the episode, he talks about his MMW journey at length, his concept of “rhythmic harmony,” and why he views sound creation as a sacred act.Special thanks to our Season 11 presenting sponsor, Van Cleef & Arpels.Show notes:Billy Martin[7:31] Medeski Martin & Wood[7:31] John Medeski[7:31] Chris Wood[7:31] “Not Not Jazz” (2024)[10:12] Iggy Pop's “Avenue B” (1999)[10:12] Don Was[11:27] “The Lover” (1995)[11:27] “Friday Afternoon in the Universe” (1995)[11:27] “Old Angel Midnight” (1973) by Jack Kerouac[13:44] Ra-Kalam Bob Moses[13:44] John Scofield[13:44] David Baker[15:57] “Shuck It Up” (1993)[15:57] “It's a Jungle in Here” (1993)[18:12] “Latin Shuffle” (1998)[18:12] “Combustication” (1998)[18:12] Frankie Malabe[18:12] Art Blakey[33:25] Thelonious Monk[33:58] “Life on Drums” (2011)[38:32] John Bonham[38:32] Charlie Watts[38:32] Stewart Copeland[38:32] Elvin Jones[38:32] Max Roach[38:32] Danny Richmond[38:32] Charles Mingus[38:32] Jack DeJohnette[38:32] Joe Morello[38:32] Roy Haynes[38:32] Stan Getz[38:32] Airto Moreira[38:32] Naná Vasconcelos[38:32] Babatunde Olatunji[39:58] Gus Johnson[39:58] “Whatever Happened to Gus” (1998)[39:58] Steve Cannon[40:54] “Chubb Sub” (1995)[40:54] ”Uncle Chubb” (1992)[46:41] “Shack-man” (1996)[47:06] “Drumming Birds” (2004)[54:48] “Bamboo Rainsticks” (1999)[54:48] Amulet Records[1:00:23] Creative Music Studio

Once considered polar opposites, country music and rap have had a bit of a moment together as of late with artists like Jelly Roll & Post Malone and releases like Beyonce's Cowboy Carter hitting the charts. The thing is, Brooklyn, NY born bluegrass/hip-hop group Gangstagrass have been doing it since 2007. Returning guest, sociologist Alana Anton, brings us their latest release: 'The Blackest Thing On The Menu', and makes the case that these genres have more in common than record label marketers would have us believe. Songs discussed in this episode: Long Hard Times To Come (Justified Main Theme), Freedom - Gangstagrass; Feathered Indians - Tyler Childers; The Only Way Out Is Through - Gangstagrass; Rebel Without A Pause - Public Enemy; Good At Being Bad - Gangstagrass; Hunger Strike - Temple Of The Dog; Up High Do Or Die, Gone Gone - Gangstagrass; Texas Hold 'Em - Beyonce; You Can Have The Crown (Sturgill Simpson Cover) - Post Malone; Mother, Obligatory Braggadocio, Avenue B, Palette, It's Alive, Sankofa, Mother (Instrumental Jam Mix) - Gangstagrass

Harm reduction advocate Julie Dingwell of Avenue B in Saint John comments after a fatal overdose in Fredericton involving bromazolam.

Alexus reports on a fatal hit-and-run on Avenue B nar Edgewood Avenue. Late Wednesday night, a woman was hit twice - by a dark SUV and a white sedan. Both vehicles fled the scene.

Welcome to the Nothing Shocking Podcast 2.0 reboot episode 189 with our guest Pete Damien Marshall (Formerly of Samhain and Iggy Pop).  In this episode we discuss his journey into music, recording and touring with Samhain and Iggy Pop and more!   For more information visit:  https://www.misfitscentral.com/bios/pete-marshall.php   Please like our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/nothingshockingpodcast/  Follow us on twitter at  https://twitter.com/hashtag/noshockpod.   Libsyn website: https://nothingshocking.libsyn.com For more info on the Hong Kong Sleepover: https://thehongkongsleepover.bandcamp.com   Help support the podcast and record stores by shopping at Ragged Records. http://www.raggedrecords.org  Saturday Aug 19th Alternating Currents at Ragged Records and Trash Can Annie - Sidewalk Sale 10am-4pm and live music 6pm-8pm featuring the Dendrons (Chicago, IL) and Running Man (Quad Cities).     

    1. New School Inc, Dinco D, DoItAll, Freedom Williams, Kangol Kid - “F*ck Dumbshit”    2. Four Elements & Beyond ft. Planet Asia - “Recognize The Real”    3. Jay Morelli ft. Terminology & Passport Rev - “Pull Up”    4. Rojoz, Gil-Scott Heron, & DFD Baby Lee - “Dogs In The Streets”    5. Che Noir ft. Skyzoo - “Brilliance”    6. Diamond D - “OUUU”    7. Smif N Wessun - “The A.L.L.”    8. Styles P & Havoc - “Fuck Around”    9. Scar Lip - “This Is New York”    10. Ru$h x The Da God Fahim ft. Big Cheeko & Jay Nice - “New Elite”    11. Novatore ft. Ill Bill & Lord Goat - “Suicide Choir”    12. Troy Ave., Demarco, & Rytikal - “Why You Mad”    13. Coast Contra, Masta Ace & Marco Polo - “Certified”     14. M.O.P. ft. Ras Kass - “How The Block Sound”    15. Swizz Beatz ft. Nas - “Echo”

In New York's East Village during the summer of 1967 it was all about peace and love. But that all came crashing to a halt when on October 8, a young hippie couple, Linda and Groovy, were found brutally beaten to death in the basement of a dirty tenement building on Avenue B. The murder rattled the hippie culture-and would prove that drug induced violence had deadly consequences. Intro Music by Joe Buck YourselfHosts Heather and Dylan Packer www.patreon.com/mountainmurderspodcast

Good morning, Gus! We're at Fleet Coffee on Webberville but recording at the Lost Well next door. This week Gus and Geoff get into Avenue B sandwiches, Food on the east side, Conventions aren't vacations, Skiing in Australia, Giraffe vs possum, Taking ANMA on the road?, and Reevaluating conventions. Check out http://www.store.roosterteeth.com and grab an ANMA shirt. One has a lil devil man on it. This episode is sponsored by Better Help http://betterhelp.com/anma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Harm reduction groups are once again warning about the safety of the drug supply in New Brunswick, after a deadly benzodiazepine was detected in blood samples.We'll speak with Julia Dingwell at Avenue B in Saint John about what she's seeing on the ground.

ABBY EHMANN Bar Proprietrix, Sign Maker, Editrix, Costumer, Scribbler, Tiara & Crown Creator, Burner, Cheap Beer Swiller recently opened HEKATE, a new "sober bar" at 167 Avenue B between 10th and 11th Streets in the East Village, right across the street from her other bar - Lucky. Hekate is an intimate sober bar and specialty tea shop fueled by feminine energy, designed for those who seek the alchemy of herbal elixirs. It is a convivial community place for anyone who might appreciate an alternative to bars. Time Out New York loves Hekate! In this session, Dr. Lisa takes a deep dive into what Abby learned about herself while in pandemic shutdowns: alcohol, humanity, fantastic new developments in alcohol-free drinks. She is putting her new ideas into action—this lady is an inspiration!

Today on The Best Dam Podcast we have the pleasure of visiting with Pastor Adam Stetson.  Paster Stetson is with the Christ Lutheran Church.  He views his job as shepherding the flock at 5th and Avenue B in beautiful Boulder City, Nevada.  He is an amazing family man that loves his profession, his congregation, his community, and his faith.  We will get to hear more about some of his favorite things like reading, volunteering, and visiting with those in need.  Pastor Adam shares an emotional “AHA” moment (he had me in tears) and what he has learned from some very private low points in his and his family's lives.We also find out more of the details of the creation and development of the “at-home learning” program that his talented wife Jessica Stetson designed and implemented during the pandemic.  She found solutions when others struggled to even know how to get started.  We will also learn of their academic and daycare programs still happening today, and how we can help them meet some of their goals to be able to expand and assist even more children in our community. Pastor Stetson completed over 10 years of education in the Seminary and still loves to learn through reading and interacting with other clergy in our community.  He shares more on the book he is reading right now, Martin Luther and Islam.  A history that many of us should be more aware of today.We can learn more about Pastor Adam Stetson, his sweet wife, Jessica, and Boulder City's Christ Lutheran Church at https://www.christluthernbc.org and https://www.facebook.com/ChristLutheranBCThe Best Dam Podcast is a Podcast Production of the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce.CreditsThis episode is sponsored by the  i & i Podcast & Music Studio. Be Heard.   Music for the Best Dam Podcast was created by ZakharValaha from Pixabay.

Saint John police Chief Robert Bruce has struck a new community action committee to address the rising number of overdoses and overdose deaths in the city. Bruce said the solution is to work with organizations, such as Avenue B, and eventually get people off drugs entirely. The CBC's Hadeel Ibrahim spoke with Julie Dingwell, executive director of Avenue B, about the plan.

Iggy Pop, eterno animal escénico, electrizante y provocador, padrino del punk, sinónimo de hedonismo y peligrosidad. Con 75 años recién cumplidos se anuncian giras por teatros y auditorios de Valencia, San Sebastián, Madrid y Girona, y quizás, solo quizás, se trate de una gira que nos muestre al otro Iggy Pop, ese de voz profunda o guitarras acústicas, el cual ha desperdigado tempos pausados por muchos de sus discos y que en los últimos álbumes se ha entregado al jazz, el estilo crooner, el spoken word o la chanson francesa. (Foto del podcast por Rob Baker Ashton; Iggy Pop)   Playlist; (sintonía) IGGY POP “Funtime” (The Idiot, 1977) IGGY POP “The endless sea” (New values, 1979) IGGY POP “Main street eyes” (Brick by brick, 1990) IGGY POP “Nazi girlfriend” (Avenue B, 1999) IGGY POP “I want to go to the beach” (Preliminaires, 2009) IGGY POP “Only the lonely” (Aprés, 2012) IGGY POP “Chocolate drops” (Post Pop depression, 2016) IGGY POP “Love missing” (Free, 2019) SILVER SYNTHETIC “Unchain your heart” (ST, 2021) MORE KICKS “Rest of our lives” (adelanto próximo álbum) ANDREW TAYLOR and THE HARMONIZERS “Life is good” (ST, Rock Indiana, 2021) NOX BOYS “Out of touch” (Out of touch, 2019) MICKY Y LOS COLOSOS DEL RITMO “Growing up” (S/, 2022) NICK WATERHOUSE “Place names” (Promenade blue, 2020) Escuchar audio

Today we are talking with Julie Dingwell from Avenue B, Harm Reduction.Julie gives us a realistic view of addictions, resources offered to those struggling, and how we can come together as a community to best support our vulnerable populations.Trigger Warning: This episode may be difficult to listen to as the content includes uncensored discussion around addiction, related infectious diseases, and naloxone treatment for suspected overdose treatment. You can contact Julie or one of her colleagues at Avenue B through the following:Website: www.avenueb.caE-mail: avenueb@avenueb.caPhone: (506) 652-2437

Michael Hudson, American economist and author of Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire (1972) discusses the rentier economy that accounts for the growing disparity in wealth due to finance capitalism. Giving a history of the the polarisation of the US economy since the 1960s through the present, Hudson discusses how the high costs of education and housing have led to a growing problem of student debt, higher costs of living and increasing austerity. Noting how 80% of bank loans are made for real estate in the US, Hudson expounds upon how loans and exponentially growing debts outstrip profits from the economy proving disastrous for both the government and the people who are paying increasing amounts on housing with little to no money left to spend on goods and services. Hudson contends that finance capitalism is a “self-terminating” oligarchical system leaving workers traumatised, afraid to strike or react to working conditions, while they are pushed towards serfdom as US and Europe are heading towards a debt crisis on par with that of Argentina and Greece.TranscriptIntroduction: Welcome to Savage Minds. I'm your host, Julian Vigo. Today's show marks the launch of our second season with a very special guest: Michael Hudson. Michael Hudson is a financial analyst and president of the Institute for the Study of long term economic trends. He is a distinguished research professor of economics at the University of Missouri Kansas City, and the professor at the School of Marx studies, Peking University in China. He's also a research fellow at the Levy Institute of Bard College, and he has served as an economic adviser to the US Canadian, Mexican, and Latvian governments. He's also been a consultant to UNITAR, the Institute for Research on Public Policy and the Canadian Science Council, among other organisations. He holds a BA from the University of Chicago and an MA and PhD in economics from New York University. Professor Hudson is the author of Killing the Host: How Financial Parasites and Debt Bondage Destroy the Global Economy (2015), and most recently, J is for junk economics, a guide to reality in an age of deception. His super imperialism, the economic strategy of the American Empire has just been translated into German after its appearance in Chinese, Japanese and Spanish. He sits on the editorial board of lap times quarterly and has written for the Journal of International Affairs, Commonweal, International Economy, Financial Times, and Harper's, and he's a regular contributor to CounterPunch. I welcome Michael Hudson, to Savage Minds.Julian Vigo: Class analysis in the United States is rather subterfuge amidst all these other narratives of the American dream as it's framed—that being the right to own one's home. In the UK, that became part of the Trojan horse, that Thatcher built to win her election. It was a very smart move. She won that election—she won her elections—by the reforms in the “right to buy” scheme as I'm sure you know. I t was really clever and disastrous for human rights in the country. I've spent quite a bit of my life in the UK and to see that in 1979 was, I believe, 49% of all residential housing was council housing. And when I wrote a piece on this for the Morning Star about eight, nine years ago, that rate was reduced to under 11%. So we're seeing the haves- and have-nots. And this is where your work really struck a chord for me. And let's kick into the show at this point. I have written over the years, about rentier capitalism, a term that is increasingly used to describe economies dominated by rentier, rents and rent-generating assets. And you discuss this quite a bit in your work, more recently, your article from July, “Finance Capitalism versus Industrial Capitalism: The Rentier Resurgence and Takeover.” And in this article, you discuss how today the finance, insurance and real estate sectors have regained control of government creating a “neo-rentier” economy as you put it, while you note—and I quote you: “The aim of this postindustrial finance capitalism is the opposite of industrial capitalism as known to nineteenth-century economists: it seeks wealth primarily through the extraction of economic rent, not industrial capital formation.” Unquote. I was wondering if we might begin our talk by branching out from this piece you wrote in July. And if you could explain for our listeners why discerning rentier capitalism is essential for understanding the global push to privatise and financialise those sectors that formerly existed in the public domain such as—and we see this everywhere, including in the EU—transportation, health care, prisons, policing, education, the post office, etc.Michael Hudson: Well, most textbooks depict a sort of happy world that almost seems to exist in the 1950s. And this “happy world” is when wealthy people get money, they build factories and buy machinery and hire workers to produce more goods and services. But that's not what the credits created for today, it's the textbooks that pick the banks that take in people's deposits and lend them out to people who build industrial production, and you'll have a picture of workers with lunchboxes working in. But actually, banks only lend money against assets. And the main assets do not make a profit by employing people to produce things there. They simply are opportunities to extract rent, like real estate 80% of bank loans are made for real estate. And that means they're made against primarily buildings that are in land that are already there. And the effective more and more bank credit is to raise the price of real estate. And in the United States, in the last year, housing prices have gone up 20%. And typically, in America, if you go to a bank and take out a loan, the government is going to guarantee the bank that you will pay the loan up to the point where it absorbs 43% of your income.So here's a big chunk of American income going to pay simply for housing, those price increases, not because there's more housing, or better housing. But in fact, the housing is built worse and worse every year, by lowering the standards, but simply inflation. There are other forms of rent, other people pay, for instance, 18% of America's GDP is healthcare, much higher than the percentage in any other country for much lower quality of service. So you know, that's sort of taken out of people's budgets. If you're a worker in the United States, right away, you get your paycheque 15%—a little more, maybe 16% now—is deducted for Social Security and medical care for when you're older. They also need up to maybe 30%, for income tax, federal, state and local income tax before you have anything to spend. And then you have to spend for housing, you have to pay for transportation, you have to pay for your own medical insurance contributions, your own pension contributions. So there's very, very little that is left over in people's budgets to buy goods and services. Not only have real wages in the United States, gone down now for three decades, but the disposable income that people and families get after they meet their sort of monthly “nut,” what they can spend on goods and services is shrunk even more. So while they're getting squeezed, all this money is paid to rentiers as at the top. And because of the miracle of compound interest, the amount that the 1% of the economy has grows exponentially. Any rate of interest is a doubling time. And even though people know that there's only a 0.1% rate of interest, now for the banks, and for large wall firms, it's about 3% if you want to buy a mortgage. and so this, the 0.1% is lent out to large companies like Blackstone that are now buying up almost all of the housing that comes onto the market in the United States. So in 2008, 69% of homeowners of Americans own their own homes. Now it's fallen by more than 10%. It's fallen to about 51%. All this difference has been basically the financial sector funding a transformation away from home ownership into landlordship—into absentee ownership. And so the if you're part of the 1%, the way that you make money is by buying stocks or bonds, or corporate takeovers, or buying real estate and not building factories. And that's why the factories and the industry have been shifting outside of the United States over to China, and other countries. So, what we're having is a kind of…I won’t say its post-industrial capitalism, because people thought that the what was going to follow industrial capitalism was going to be socialism. They thought that there will be more and more government spending on providing basic needs that people had. And instead of socialism, and a more, egalitarian distribution of wealth and income, you've had a polarization of wealth and income, you've had the wealthy people making money financially, and by real estate, and by rent seeking, and by creating monopolies, but not by building factories, not by producing goods and services. And that is why the economy's polarizing, and so many people are unhappy with their conditions. Now, they're going further and further into debt and their student debt. Instead of education here being a public utility that's provided freely, it's become privatised at NYU, it's now $50,000 or $60,000 a year. There is no way in which the United States can compete industrially with other countries when they've loaded down new entrants into the labor force with huge housing costs, student debt, huge taxes have been shifted off the 1% onto the 99%. So in the United States, finance capitalism basically is self-terminating. It leads to a polarised economy, it leads to austerity. And it leaves countries looking like Greece looked after 2015, after its debt crisis, it looks like Argentina is trying to struggle to pay its foreign debts. And that seems to be the future in which the US and Europe are moving towards.Julian Vigo: I posted on my Facebook wall about this about maybe five weeks ago, that the rentier class, I'm not just including the likes of Blackstone, but the middle class that are multiple home dwellers. I noted that during the lockdown, I was reading through accounts on social media of people who were being threatened by landlords, landlords, who actually had no mortgage to pay. And I had to wonder at that point, what is the input of the rentier class by the landowning class who are not necessarily part of the 1%. These are people who, as some of these people came on my wall and said, “I worked hard to buy my second and third houses!” And I thought, “Well, let me pull out my violins.” One thing that really alerted me during lockdown was the lack of sympathy for renters. And I don't just mean in the US, in fact, I think the US had a kinder response to renting in some sectors such as New York state where there has been—and still—is a massive pushback against any form of relaxation of rent forgiveness, since lockdown in the EU and Italy and France. It's appalling the kind of treatment that renters received here. I spoke to people in Bologna, who were doing a rent strike, but fearful of having their name mentioned. I ended up not being able to run the piece because of that. And there are so many people who don't have money to pay their rent in the EU, in the UK, and yet, we're somehow focusing oftentimes on these meta-critical analyses of the bigger corporations, the 1%. But where does the middle class fit into this, Michael, because I do have to wonder if maybe we should be heading towards the model I hold in my mind and heart is St. Ives in Cornwall, which about eight years ago set a moratorium saying no second homes in this city. Now, they didn't do it because of any allegiance to Marxism or socialism. They did it in part because of that, and because of a left-leaning politics, but mostly because they didn't want to have a ghost town that when the summer was over, you had very few people living in town. What are the answers to the rentier class that is also composed of people who consider themselves hard-working people who just want someone else to pay for their house, as one person on Twitter, put it.Michael Hudson: This is exactly the problem that is plaguing left wing politics, from Europe to America in the last fifty years.Julian Vigo: Exactly. It's astounding because there was a lot of debate on Twitter around last summer, when one woman wrote, I just did the math, I'm almost 29 years old, and I paid and she listed the amount in rent, I have just bought my landlord a second house. And people are adding it up that we are back to understanding. And I think in terms of the medieval period, remember in high school in the US when you study history, and you learn about feudalism, and the serfs coming in from far afield having to tend to the Masters terrain. And I think, are we heading back to a kind of feudalism under a new name? Because what's dividing those who can afford rents and those who can, it's not only your eligibility to receive a bank loan in this climate, which is quite toxic in London. I know many architects, lawyers, physicians who cannot get bank loans. Ironically, the bar is being raised so high that more and more people in London are moving on to the canal system—they're renting or buying narrowboats. The same is happening in other parts of the world where people are being barred out of home ownership for one reason or another and at the same time, there's a class of people often who got loans in a period when it was quite easy in the 80s and early 90s, let's say and they hold a certain control over who's paying—43% of income of Americans goes on housing. And as you know, in New York City that can be even higher. How can we arrive at a society where there's more equality between these haves and have-nots? Because it seems that the middle class is playing a role in this. They're trying to come off as being the hard-working schmoes, who have just earned their right to own their second or third homes, and then the others who will never have a foot on that ladder, especially given the crash?Michael Hudson: Well, I think you've put your finger on it. Most people think of economies being all about industry. But as you've just pointed out, for most people, the economy is real estate. And if you want to understand how modern economies work, you really should begin by looking at real estate, which is symbiotic with with banking, because as you pointed out that in a house is worth whatever a bank will lend. And in order to buy a house, unless you have an enormous amount of savings, which hardly anyone has, you'll borrow from a bank and buy the house. And the idea is to use the rent to pay the interest to the bank. And then you end up hoping late hoping with a capital gain, which is really land price gain. You borrow from the bank hoping that the Federal Reserve and the central bank or the Bank of England is going to inflate the economy and inflate asset prices and bank credit is going to push prices further and further up. As the rich get richer, they recycle the money in the banks and banks lend it to real estate. So, the more the economy is polarised between the 1% and the 99%, the more expensive houses get the more absentee landlords are able to buy the houses and outbid the homebuyers, who as you pointed out, can't get loans because they're already loaned up. If they can't get loans in England to buy a house, it's because they already owe so much money for other things. In America, it would be because they own student debt or because they own other bank loans, and they're all loaned up. So the key is people are being squeezed more than anywhere else on housing. In America, it rents care too and on related sort of monopoly goods that yield rent. Now the problem is why isn't this at the centre of politics?Is it because— and it's ironic that although most people in every country, Europe and America are still homeowners, or so they only own their own home—they would like to be rocky as a miniature? They would like to live like the billionaires live off the rents. They would like to be able to have enough money without working to get a free lunch and the economy of getting a free lunch. And so somehow, they don't vote for what's good for the wage earners. They vote for well, if I were to get richer, then I would want to own a house and I would want to get rent. So I'm going to vote in favour of the landlord class. I'm going to vote in favour of banks lending money to increase housing prices. Because I'd like to borrow money from a bank to get on this treadmill, that's going to be an automatic free lunch. Now, I not only get rent, but I'll get the rising price of the houses that prices continue to rise. So somehow, the idea of class interest, they don't think of themselves as wave generators, they think of themselves as somehow wouldn't be rentiers in miniature without reaising that you can't do it in miniature. You really have to have an enormous amount of money to be successful rentier.So no class consciousness means that the large real estate owners, the big corporations like Blackstone, that own huge amounts can sort of trot out a strapped, homeowner and individual, and they will sort of hide behind it and say, “Look at this, poor family, they use their money to buy a house, the sort of rise in the world, and now the tenants have COVID, and they can't pay the rent. Let's not bail out these, these landlords.” So even though they're not getting rent, we have to aid them. And think of them as little people, but they're not little people. They're a trillion dollar, money managers. They're huge companies that are taking over. And people somehow personify the billionaires and the trillion dollar real estate management companies as being small people just like themselves. There's a confusion about the economic identity.Julian Vigo: Well, certainly in the United States, we are known to have what's called the “American dream.” And it's, it's quite interesting when you start to analyse what that dream has morphed into, from the 1960s to the present, and I even think through popular culture. Remember Alexis, in Dynasty, this was the go-to model for success. So we've got this idea that the super rich are Dallas and Dynasty in the 80s. But 20 years after that, we were facing economic downfalls. We had American graduates having to go to graduate school because they couldn't get a job as anything but a barista. And the model of getting scholarships or fellowships, any kind of bursary to do the Masters and PhD. When I was doing my graduate work, I was lucky enough to have this, but that was quickly disappearing. A lot of my colleagues didn't have it. And I imagine when you went to school, most of your colleagues had it. And today, and in recent years, when I was teaching in academia, most of my students doing advanced degrees had zero funding. So, we've got on the one hand, the student debt, hamster wheel rolling, we have what is, to me one of the biggest human rights issues of the domestic sphere in countries like the US or Great Britain, frankly, everywhere is the ability to live without having to be exploited for the payment of rent. And then we have this class of people, whether they're Blackstone, and huge corporations, making billions, or the middle class saying, “But I'm just living out the American dream.” How do we square the “American dream,” and an era where class consciousness is more invisible than ever has it been?Michael Hudson: I think the only way you can explain that is to show how different life was back in the 1960s, 1950s. When I went to school, and the college, NYU cost $500 a semester, instead of 50,000, that the price of college has gone up 100 times since I went to college—100 times. I rented a house in a block from NYU at $35 a month on Sullivan Street. And now that same small apartment would go for 100 times that much, $3,500 a month, which is a little below the average rent in Manhattan these days. So, you've had these enormous increases in the cost of getting an education, they cost of rent, and in a society where housing was a public utility, and education was a public utility, education would be provided freely. If the economy wanted to keep down housing prices, as they do in China for instance, then you would be able to work if the kind of wages that Americans are paid today and be able to save. The ideal of China or countries that want to compete industrially is to lower the cost of living so that you don't have to pay a very high wages to cover the inflated cost of housing, the cost of education.If you privatise education in America, and if you increase the housing prices, then either you're going to have to pay labor, much higher rates that will price it out of world markets, at least for industrial goods, or you'll have to squeeze budgets. So yes, people can pay for housing, and education, but they're not going to buy the goods and services they produce. And so and that's one of the reasons why America is not producing industrial manufacturers. It's importing it all abroad. So the result of this finance capitalism that we have the result of the rent squeeze, that you depict, and the result of voters not realising that this is economic suicide for them is that the economy is shrinking and leaving people basically out in the street. And of course, all of this is exacerbated by the COVID crisis right now. Where, right now you have, especially in New York City, many people are laid off, as in Europe, they're not getting an income. Well, if your job has been closed down as a result of COVID, in Germany, for instance, you're still given something like 80% of your normal salary, because they realise that they have to keep you solvent and living. In the United States, there's been a moratorium on rents, they realise that, well, if you've lost your job, you can't pay the rent. There's a moratorium on evictions, there's a moratorium on bank foreclosures on landlords that can't pay their mortgage to the bank, because their tenants are not paying rent. All of that is going to expire in February, that’s just in a few months.  So they're saying, “OK, in New York City, 50,000 tenants are going to be thrown out onto the street, thousands of homes are going to be foreclosed on.” All over the country, millions of Americans are going to be subject now to be evicted. You can see all of the Wall Street companies are raising private capital funds to say, “We're going to be waiting for all this housing to come onto the market. We're going to be waiting for all of these renovations to take place. We're going to swoop in and pick it up.” This is going to be the big grab bag that is going to shape the whole coming generation and do to America really what Margaret Thatcher did to England when she got rid of—when she shifted from housing, the council housing that you mentioned, was about half the population now dow to about 1/10 of the population today.Julian Vigo: This is what I wonder is not being circulated within the media more frequently. We know that major media is not...[laughts] They like to call themselves left-of-centre but they're neoliberal which I don't look at anything in the liberal, the neoliberal sphere, as “left.” I look at it as a sort of strain of conservatism, frankly. But when you were speaking about paying $35 a month for an apartment on Sullivan Street, get me a time machine! What year was that? Michael?Michael Hudson: That was 1962.Julian Vigo: 1962 And roughly, the minimum wage in New York was just over $1 an hour if I'm not mistaken.Michael Hudson: I don't remember. I was making I think my first job on Wall Street was 50 to $100. A year $100 a week.Julian Vigo: So yes, I looked it up because I was curious when you said 100 times certainly we see that. If the tuition at New York when and New York University when I left was $50,000 a year you were paying $500 a semester. This is incredible inflation.Michael Hudson: And I took out a student loan from the state because I wanted to buy economic books. I was studying the history of economic thought and so I borrowed, you know, I was able to take out a loan that I repaid in three years as I sort of moved up the ladder and got better paying jobs. But that was the Golden Age, the 1960s because in that generation there was the baby boom that just came online. There were jobs for everybody. There was a labor shortage. And everybody was trying to hire—anyone could get a job. I got to New York and I had $15 in my pocket in 1960. I'd shared a ride with someone, [I] didn't know what to do. We stayed in a sort of fleabag hotel on Bleecker Street that was torn down by the time you got there. But I,  took a walk around and who should I run into that Gerde's Folk City, but a friend of mine had stayed at my house in Chicago once and he let me stay at his apartment for a few weeks till I can look around, find a place to live and got the place for $35 a month,Julian Vigo: When there was that debate on Twitter—there were many debates actually about renting on Twitter—and there were a few landlords who took to Twitter angry that they learned that their renters had received subsidies in various countries to pay their rent. And instead of paying their rent, the people use this to up and buy a downpayment on a home. And they got very upset. And there was a bit of shadow on Friday there with people saying, “Well, it's exactly what you've done.” And I find this quite fascinating, because I've always said that the age of COVID has made a huge Xray of our society economically speaking. And it's also telling to me that in countries that I would assume to be more socialist leaning, if not socialist absolutely, in the EU, we saw very few movements against rent. Very few people or groups were calling for a moratorium on rent. It's ironic, but it was in the US where we saw more moratoria happen. What is happening where—and this reaches to larger issues, even outside of your specialty of economics and finance—but why on earth has it come to be that the left is looking a lot more like the right? And, don't shoot me, but you know, I've been watching some of Tucker Carlson over the past few years, someone who I could not stand after 9/11. And he has had more concern and more investigations of the poor and the working class than MSBC or Rachel Maddow in the biggest of hissy fits. What is going on politically that the valences of economic concern are shifting—and radically so?Michael Hudson: Well, the political situation in America is very different from every other country. In the Democratic Party, in order to run for a position, you have to spend most of your time raising money, and the party will support whatever candidates can raise the most money. And whoever raises the largest amount of money gets to be head of a congressional committee dealing with whatever it is their campaign donors give. So basically, the nomination of candidates in the United States, certainly in the Democratic Party, is based on how much money you can raise to finance your election campaign, because you're supposed to turn half of what you raised over to the party apparatus. Well, if you have to run for an office, and someone explained to me in in the sixties, if I wanted to go into politics, I had to find someone to back up my campaign. And they said, “Well, you have to go to the oil industry or the tobacco industry.”And you go to these people and say, “Will you back my campaign?” And they say, Well, sure, what's your position going to be on on smoking on oil and the the tax position on oil, go to the real estate interest, because all local politics and basically real estate promotion projects run by the local landlords and you go to the real estate people and you say, “Okay, I'm going to make sure that we have public improvements that will make your land more valuable, but you won't have to pay taxes on them.” So, if you have people running for office, proportional to the money they can make by the special interests, that means that all the politicians here are representing the special interests that pay them and their job as politicians is to deliver a constituency to their campaign contributors. And so the campaign contributors are going to say, “Well, here's somebody who could make it appear as if they're supporting their particular constituency.” And so ever since the 60s, certainly in America, the parties divided Americans into Irish Americans, Italian Americans, black Americans, Hispanic Americans. They will have all sorts of identity politics that they will run politicians on. But there's one identity that they don't have—and that's the identity of being a wage earner. That's the common identity that all these hyphenated Americans have in common. They all have to work for a living and get wages, they're all subject to, they have to get housing, they have to get more and more bank credit, if they want to buy housing so that all of the added income they get is paid to the banks as mortgage interest to get a home that used to be much less expensive for them. So basically, all of the increase in national income ends up being paid to the campaign contributors, the real estate contributors, the oil industry, the tobacco industry, the pharmaceuticals industry, that back the politicians. And essentially, you have politics for sale in the United States. So we're really not in a democracy anymore—we're in an oligarchy. And people don't realise that without changing this, this consciousness, you're not going to have anything like the left-wing party.And so you have most Americans out wanting to be friendly with other Americans, you know, why can't everybody just compromise and be in the centre? Well, there's no such thing as a centrist. Because you'll have an economy that's polarising, you have the 1% getting richer and richer and richer by getting the 99% further and further in debt. So the 99% are getting poorer and poor after paying their debts. And to be in the centre to say, and to be say, only changes should be marginal, that means—a centrist is someone who lets this continue. With that we're not going to make a structural change, that's radical, we're not going to change the dynamic that is polarising the economy, between creditors at the top and debtors is at the bottom, between landlords at the top and renters at the bottom between monopolists and the top and the consumers who have to pay monopoly prices for pharmaceuticals, for cable TV, for almost everything they get. And none of this is taught in the economics courses. Because you take an  economics course, they say, “There's no such thing as unearned income. Everybody earns whatever they can get.” And the American consciousness is shaped by this failure to distinguish between earned income and unearned income and a failure to see that dynamic is impoverishing them. It's like the proverbial frog that's been boiled slowly in water. So, with this false consciousness people have—if only they can save enough and borrow from a bank—they can become a rentier in Miniature. They're just tricked into a false dream.Intermission: You're listening to savage minds, and we hope you're enjoying the show. Please consider subscribing. We don't accept any money from corporate or commercial sponsors. And we depend upon listeners and readers just like you. Now back to our show.Julian Vigo: I don't know if you saw the movie called Queen of Versailles. It was about this very bizarre effort to construct a very ugly Las Vegas-style type of Versailles by a couple that was economically failing. And it spoke to me a lot about the failings of the quote unquote, “American dream.” And I don't mean that dream, per se. I mean, the aspiration to have the dream, because that is, as you just pointed out, unearned income, that is the elephant in the room. And it almost seems to be the elephant maybe to keep using that metaphor, that the blind Sufi tale: everyone's feeling a different part of it, but no one is naming it. And I find this really shocking, that we can't speak of unearned income and look at the differences as to which country's tax inheritance and which do not—this idea that one is entitled to wealth. Meanwhile, a lot of US institutions are academically, now formally, being captured by the identity lobbies and there are many lobbies out there—it's a gift to them. They don't have to work on the minimum wage, they don't have to work on public housing, they don't have to work on housing.They can just worry about, “Do we have enough pronoun badges printed out?” And I find this really daunting as someone who is firmly of the left and who has seen some kind of recognition have this problem bizarrely, from the right. We seem to have a blind spot where we're more caught up in how people see us, rather than the material reality upon which unearned and earned income is based. Why is it that today people are living far worse than their grandparents and parents especially?Michael Hudson: Well, I think we've been talking about that, because they have to pay expenses as their parents and grandparents didn't have to pay, they have to pay much higher rent. Everybody used to be able to afford to buy a house, that was the definition of “middle class” in America was to be a homeowner. And when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s, everybody on the salary they were getting could afford to buy their house. And that's why so many people bought the houses with working class sell rates. As I told you, I was getting $100 a week. At least if you were quiet you could do it. If you were black, you couldn't do it. The blacks were redlined. But the white people could buy the houses. And that's why today, the white population has so much more wealth than the black population, because the white families would leave the house to the children and housing prices have gone up 100 times. And because they've gone up 100 times, this is endowed with a whole white hereditary class of kids whose family own their own homes, send them to schools. But America was redlined. Now Chicago was redlined, blacks were redlined. In New York City, the banks would not lend money to black neighbourhoods or to black borrowers. I was at Chase Manhattan and they made it very clear: they will not make a loan to a mortgage if they're black people living in my block. And they told me that when I was on Second Street and Avenue B. I won't repeat the epithet racist epithets they used. But what has caused the racial disparity today is what we've been talking about: the fact that whites could buy their own homes, blacks could not.And the reason I'm bringing this up is that if—we're working toward a society where white people are now going to be reduced to the position that black people are in today: of not having their own homes, of not being able to get bank credit. One friend of mine at the Hudson Institute, a black economist, wanted to—we were thinking of cowriting a book, The Blackening of America. The state of, well, the future of the whites, is to become blacks if you don't solve this situation. And I've been unable to convince many black leaders about reparations—that the reparations, very hard to get reparations for slavery, which was to their grandparents, their reparations are due to the blacks today who do not have housing, their own homes, because of the redlining that they have been experiencing right down to today.So, you have this, you do have a separation in this country. But this is not the kind of hyphenated politics that the politicians talk about. Not even the black politicians, the fact that if you're going to hyphenated American, how did this hyphenisation affect the real opportunities for real estate, for homeownership, for education, and all of these other things. I think maybe if people begin to think as to how there is a convergence of what was diverging before—now you're having the middle class pushed down into its real identity which was a dependent wage-earning class all along—you're going to have a change of consciousness. But we're still not to that. People don't realise this difference.And at the top of the pyramid, at New York University, for instance, where we both went to school, I have professor friends there and there was recently an argument about getting more salaries for professors, because they're hiring adjunct professors at very low prices instead of appointing them full time. And one professor turned to my friend and said, “They’re treating us like wage earners.” And my friend said, “Yes, you are a wage earner. You’re dependent on the wage you get from New York University.” And he said, “But I’m a professor,” as if somehow being a professor doesn't mean that you're not a wage earner, you're not dependent on salary, you're not being exploited by your employer who's in it to make money at your expense.Julian Vigo: Oh, absolutely. We've got the push from NYU in the 1990s by adjunct professors to get health insurance, and to have a certain modicum of earnings that would allow them to pay rent in an extremely expensive city. I find it amazing how many of my students at the time had no idea how much I was being exploited at the time, I was at lunch after the graduation of two of my students, they invited me to lunch, and they were having a discussion about how well we must be paid. And I laughed. I didn't go into the details of my salary. But later in later years, they came to understand from other sources, how exploitation functions within the university where they were paying almost quarter of a million to go to school, and graduate school, and so forth. So it's quite shocking that even though we have the internet and all the information is there, anyone can see precisely how much NYU or Columbia cost today, or how much the cost of living is, as opposed to 1961, for instance, that people are still not putting together that when you have housing, that is like income. For most of us, if housing is affordable, the way one lives, the efficiency to live, the ease, the mental health, and physical health improves. And it's fascinating to me that during lockdown, people were told, just to bite the bullet, stay inside, and how many publications, how much of the media went out to discover the many people being locked down in extremely small hovels? Multiple families living in three bedroom houses, even smaller. And I just kept thinking throughout these past 20 months or so that the media has become complicit in everything you've discussed, we've seen an extra tack added on where the media is another arm of industry and the 1% they are able sell lockdown stories: stars singing, Spaniards singing, accordionists from Neapolitan balconies, everyone's happy. But that was a lie. And that was a lie being sold conveniently.I regularly post stories from CNN, where their recent yacht story—they love yachts—their recent yacht story from about five or six days ago was how the super-rich are “saving” the world's ecology. And it was a paid advertisement of a very expensive yacht that uses nuclear power, what you and I hope: that all the rich people are running around with little mini nuclear reactors on the seas. And I keep thinking: what has happened that you mentioned campaign financing? Remember what happened to Hillary Clinton when she suggested campaign finance reform? That went over like a lead balloon. And then we've got CNN, Forbes, all these major publications that run paid sponsored news articles as news. It's all paid for, they legally have to see it as but you have to find the fine print. And we're being sold the 1% as the class that's going to save the planet with this very bizarre looking yacht with a big ball on it. And another another CNN article about yacht owners was about how it's hard for them to pay for maintenance or something and  we're pulling out our tiny violins.And I keep wondering, why is the media pushing on this? We can see where MSNBC and CNN and USA today are heading in a lot of their coverage over class issues. They would much rather cover Felicity Huffman, and all those other stars’ children's cheating to get into a California University scandal which is itself its own scandal, of course. That gets so covered, but you rarely see class issues in any of these publications unless it refers to the favelas of Brazil or the shanty towns of Delhi. So, we're sold: poverty isn't here, it's over there. And over here, mask mandates, lock up, shut your doors stay inside do your part clap for the cares and class has been cleared. Cut out. Even in the UK, where class consciousness has a much more deeply ingrained fermentation, let's say within the culture, it's gone. Now the BBC. Similarly, nightly videos at the initial part of lockdown with people clapping for the cares. Little was said about the salaries that some of these carriers were getting, I don't mean just junior doctors there, but the people who are cleaning the hallways. So, our attention has been pushed by the media away from class, not just the politicians doing the dirty work, or not just the nasty finance campaign funding that is well known in the US. What are some of the responses to this, Michael, that we might advance some solutions here? Because my worry, as a person living on this planet is enough is enough: Why can't we just try a new system? Is it that the fall of the Berlin Wall left a permanent divide in terms of what we can experiment with? Or is there something else at play?Michael Hudson: Well, recently, Ukraine passed a law about oligarchs, and they define an oligarchy as not only owning a big company, but also owning one of the big media outlets. And the oligarchy in every country owns the media. So, of course, CNN, and The New York Times and The Washington Post, are owned by the billionaire class representing the real estate interests and the rentier interests. They're essentially the indoctrination agencies. And so of course, in the media, what you get is a combination of a fantasy world and Schadenfreude—Schadenfreude, when something goes wrong with people you don't like, like the scandal. But apart from that, it's promoting a fantasy, about a kind of parallel universe about how a nice world would work, if everybody earned the money that they had, and the wealth they had by being productive and helping society. All of a sudden, that's reversed and [they] say, “Well, they made a lot of fortune, they must have made it by being productive and helping society.” So, everybody deserves the celebrity, deserves the wealth they have. And if you don't have wealth, you're undeserving and you haven't made a productivity contribution. And all you need is to be more educated, managerial and intelligent, and you can do it. And it doesn't have anything to do with intelligence. As soon as you inherit a lot of money, your intelligence, your IQ drops 10%. As soon as you don't have to work for a living and just clip coupons, you write us down another 30%. The stupidest people I've met in my life are millionaires who don't want to think about how they get their money. They just, they're just greedy. And I was told 50 years ago, “You don't need to go to business school to learn how to do business. All you need is greed.” So what are all these business schools for? All they're doing is saying greed is good and giving you a patter talk to say, “Well, yeah, sure, I'm greedy. But that's why I'm productive.” And somehow they conflate all of these ideas.So, you have the media, and the educational system, all sort of combined into a fantasy, a fantasy world that is to displace your own consciousness about what's happening right around you. The idea of the media is that you don't look at your own position, you imagine other people's position in another world and see that you're somehow left out. So, you can say that the working class in America are very much like the teenage girls using Facebook, who use it and they have a bad self image once they use Facebook and think everybody else is doing better. That's the story in Congress this week. Well, you can say that the whole wage earning class once they actually see how awful the situation is they think, “Well, gee, other people are getting rich. Other people have yard spots, why don't I have my own house? Why am I struggling?” And they think that they're only struggling alone, and that everybody else is somehow surviving when other people are struggling just the way they are. That's what we call losing class consciousness.Julian Vigo: Yes, well, we're back to Crystal and Alexis wrestling and Dynasty’s fountain. Everyone wants to be like them. Everyone wants a car. You know, I'll never forget when I lived in Mexico City. One of the first things I learned when you jumped into one of those taxis were Volkswagen beetles,  Mexicans would call their driver “Jaime.” And I said to them, why are you guys calling the taxi drivers here “Jaime”? And they said, “We get it from you.” And I said, “What do you mean you get it from us? We don't call our taxi drivers Jaime.”And then I thought and I paused, I said,  “James!” Remember the Grey Poupon commercials? That's what we do—we have James as the driver in a lot of these films that we produced in the 1970s and 80s. And the idea became co-opted within Mexico as if everyone has a British driver named James.Now, what we have turned into from this serialised, filmic version of ourselves to the present is dystopic. Again, you talked about the percentage of rent that people are paying in the US, the way in which people are living quite worse than their parents. And this is related to student debt, bank debt, credit card debt, we've had scandals directly related to the housing market. We saw that when there were people to be bailed out, they had to be of the wealthy class and companies to be bailed out. There was no bailout for the poor, of course. I was in London during the Occupy Wall Street. In London, it was “occupy the London Stock Exchange” (Occupy LSX) right outside of not even the London Stock Exchange. It was outside of St. Paul's Cathedral. And there was a tent city, and people were fighting ideological warfare from within their tents. There wasn't much organising on the ground. It was disassembled months later. But I wonder why Americans, even with what is called Obamacare, are still not pushing for further measures, why Hillary Clinton's push for or suggestion merely of finance reform within the campaigning system, all of this has sort of been pushed aside.Are there actors who are able to advance these issues within our current political system in the United States? Or will it take people getting on the streets protesting, to get housing lowered to maybe have national rent controls, not just of the form that we have in New York, which, before I got to New York in the late 80s, everyone was telling me how great rent control was. Now it's all but disappeared? What is the answer? Is it the expropriation of houses? Is it the Cornwall style, no owning more than one house type of moratorium on homeownership? What are the solutions to this, Michael?Michael Hudson: There is no practical solution that I can suggest. Because the, you're not going to have universal medical care, as long as you have the pharmaceuticals. funding the campaign's of the leading politicians, as long as you have a political system that is funded by campaign contributors, you're going to have the wealthiest classes, and decide who gets nominated and who gets promoted. So, I don't see any line of reform, given the dysfunctional political system that the United States is in. If this were Europe, we could have a third party. And if we had an actual third party, the democratic party would sort of be like the social democratic parties in Europe, it would fall about 8% of the electorate, and a third party would completely take over. But in America, it's a two-party system, which is really one party with different constituencies for each wing of that party, and that one party, the same campaign contributors funds, both the Republicans and the Democrats. So it's possible that you can think of America as a failed state, as a failed economy. I don't see any means of practical going forward, just as you're seeing in the Congress today, when they're unwilling to pass an infrastructure act, there's a paralysis of change. I don't see any way in which a structural change can take place. And if you're having the dynamics that are polarising, only a structural change can reverse this trend. And nobody that I know, no politician that I know, sees any way of the trends being reversed.Julian Vigo: The funny thing is that scandal, quote-unquote, scandal over Ocasio Cortez's dress at the Met Gala was quite performative to me. It's typical that the media does. “Tax the rich,” as she sits at a function that I believe cost $35,000 to enter. And she socialised the entire night even if she allegedly did not pay either for her dress nor for the entrance. And I'm thinking, isn't this part of the problem: that we have so much of our socio-cultural discourse wrapped up in politics in the same way that Clinton's suggestion that campaign finance reform disappeared quite quickly? Is there any hope of getting campaign finance reform passed in the States?Michael Hudson: No. Because if you had campaign finance reform, that's how the wealthy people control politics. If you didn't, if you didn't have the wealthy, wealthy people deciding who gets nominated, you would have people get nominated by who wanted to do what the public ones, Bernie Sanders says, “Look, most of them are all the polls show that what democracy, if this were a democracy, we would have socialised medicine, we'd have public health care, we would have free education, we would have progressive taxation.” And yet no party is representing what the bulk of people have. So by definition, we're not a democracy. We're an oligarchy, and the oligarchy controls. I mean, you could say that the media play the role today that the church and religion played in the past to divert attention away from worldly issues towards other worldly issues. That's part of the problem.But not only the pharmaceutical industries are against public health care, but the whole corporate sector, the employer sector, are against socialised medicine, because right now workers are dependent for their health insurance on their employers. That means Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve Chairman said, this is causing a traumatised workers syndrome, the workers are afraid to quit, they're afraid to go on strike. They're afraid of getting fired because if they get fired, first of all, if they're a homeowner they lose their home because they can't pay their mortgage, but most importantly, they lose their health care. And if they get sick, it wipes them out. And they go broke and they lose their home and all the assets.Making workers depend on the employer, instead of on the government means you're locked into their job. They have to work for a living for an employer, just in order to survive in terms of health care alone. So the idea of the system is to degrade a dependent, wage-earning class and keeping privatising health care, privatising education, and moving towards absentee landlordship is the way to traumatise and keep a population on the road to serfdom. Get full access to Savage Minds at savageminds.substack.com/subscribe

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Debbi Mack interviews crime writer Cathi Stoler on the Crime Cafe podcast. For your podcasting needs, I use and recommend Blubrry Podcasting. I also recommend Stitcher Premium, if you're a fan of podcasts. If you like true crime or crime fiction, there are loads of podcasts out there for you. And with Stitcher Premium you can listen to the exclusive archives from Criminology or bonus episodes from True Crime Garage. You can also listen ad-free to episodes of your favorite podcasts. I've subscribed, and for only $4.99 a month, it's nice to have ad-free entertainment. Just go to www.stitcher.com/premium and use the promo code, CRIMECAFE, to try it out absolutely free for a month. And, once again, we have a transcription of the show notes. Click here to download a copy in PDF. Debbi (00:02): Hi everybody. My guest today writes mystery and suspense novels. Her latest novel and her giveaway book is BAR NONE from the Murder on the Rocks mystery series. A board member of Sisters in Crime, New York/Tri-State, MWA and the International Thriller Writers, she's also a founding member of Sirens of Suspense, a group that offers expertise and knowledge for aspiring crime writers. I'm pleased to have with me again, Cathi Stoler. Hi Cathi. It's great to have you on. Cathi (02:27): Hi, Debbi. It's great to be here. Debbi (02:32): Oh, well it's my pleasure. Believe me. And I'm just glad you're here and doing well I hope in New York? Cathi (02:40): Yeah. You know, I mean like everyone else, it's just been a little ... Debbi (02:45): Been a little off-putting? Cathi (02:48): Yeah. Even just going outside, there's not the usual energy, you know, you feel it after a while. I'm sure you know what I mean. Debbi (02:57): Mmm-Hmm. Yeah, it's strange times overall. Tell us a little about Jude Dillane. Am I saying that correctly? Jude Dillane? And the Murder on the Rocks series? Cathi (03:14): Well Jude owns The Corner Lounge on 10th street and Avenue B on the Lower East Side. She seems to have a penchant for getting in trouble and involved in murders and mysteries. There's three books in the series. The one that was, both BAR NONE and LAST CALL came out pretty close together. The end of last year, one in July and one in November. So I'm working on the third one, it's called STRAIGHT UP and it will continue that character. And will also continue part of the story from LAST CALL, but she has a good pal Sully Thomas, Thomas "Sully" Sullivan. He's her landlord and her friend. She has good friends from before and they both sort of work together and help each other. Debbi (04:12): So there are three books in the series so far, but you're working on the next one? Cathi (04:17): I'm working on the third one. I'm almost finished with that. And then there will probably be a fourth. Debbi (04:24): Got ya. Okay. So what's the third one called again? Cathi (04:28): The third one is called STRAIGHT UP a Murder on the Rocks mystery. They will all have that tagline, same tagline. Debbi (04:40): Yeah. What inspired you to write a mystery series set in a bar? Cathi (04:45): Well, my husband was in the restaurant business for many, many years before he left that business, and I used to go visit him. He always worked close to where we lived and I would visit him at the bar, and I got to know all the people, the waiters, the waitresses, the cooks, and you know, the other staff. And it was just fun. You know, it was a fun kind of environment. He always said, Oh, he thought maybe he'd write a book someday, but I knew he was not going to really do that. So I just stole his idea. No murders ever took place at the bars where he worked or anyone involved in any, so. [M]y husband was in the restaurant business for many, many years before he left that business, and I used to go visit him. He always worked close to where we lived and I would visit him at the bar, and I got to know all the people, the waiters,

This episode we travel down Avenue B and look at a case where a highly untrained person ends up taking a life. Tune in, share, and subscribe! Find more at Patreon.com/Podculture Thanks for listening! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/americancrimes/support

This installment of Avenue B we travel south to look at a serial killer once considered more dangerous than Ted Bundy by the FBI. Tune in, subscribe, and share! Find Exclusive Content at Patreon.com/Podculture thanks for listening! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/americancrimes/support

This episode we head to Illinois and take a look at the infamous case from 8213 Summerdale. A man of the community ends up taking several lives, and claiming it was someone else. Did he have an accomplice this whole time? Tune in and subscribe! Get these episodes days earlier by subscribing to Patreon.com/Podculture --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/americancrimes/support

Diane Kearns with Avenue B says people with addictions and mental health problems are increasingly struggling due to the pandemic, and there's no help in sight. 

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EP190 - Marketplaces Deep Dive   This episode is a deep dive into Marketplaces. Background Product Marketplaces Today Trends in Product Marketplaces Trends in Non-Product Marketplaces Recommended Resources Jeff Jordan a16z Blog Page (@JEFF_JORDAN) Andrew Chen a16z Blog Page (@ANDREWCHEN)  Action Items Don't forget to like our facebook page, and if you enjoyed this episode please write us a review on itunes. Episode 190 of the Jason & Scot show was recorded on Monday, September 30. 2019. http://jasonandscot.com Join your hosts Jason "Retailgeek" Goldberg, Chief Commerce Strategy Officer at Publicis, and Scot Wingo, CEO of GetSpiffy and Co-Founder of ChannelAdvisor as they discuss the latest news and trends in the world of e-commerce and digital shopper marketing. Automated Transcription of the show Transcript Jason: [0:24] Welcome to the Jason and Scott show this is episode 190 being recorded on Monday September 30th 2019 I'm your host Jason retailgeek Goldberg and as usual I'm here with your co-host Scott Wingo. Scot: [0:39] Hey Jason and welcome back Jason Scott show listeners hey Jason do you know what kind of show we are going to do today. Jason: [0:46] I'm guessing a deep dive, Jason and Scott show. Scot: [1:02] That's right we are going to do a deep dive into everyone's favorite topic will at least mine marketplaces. Jason: [1:09] I sort of assumed that you assumed whatever your favorites were where everyone else's paper. Scot: [1:15] Of course yeah and so we've done deep Dives on Amazon well done a couple other topics in marketplaces come up a lot. I thought this is a good time to talk about marketplaces cuz there's actually a lot of innovation going on in market place has a lot of changes and then. The ratchet here together and I'm speaking on at a B2B show tomorrow called B2B next and I'm talking about marketplaces and how that impacts B2B folks. Jason: [1:41] But it should be said that you probably created a bunch of fascinating unique content just for the podcast and you might reuse it but you're not just giving us the. Scot: [1:50] Oh no this is totally custom for our listeners. Jason: [1:52] William you of course are the marketplace Guru but so I am super excited to hear your latest updated take on how marketplaces are doing and where they're going so take it away is God. Scot: [2:05] Yeah yes it is the first thing I want to do is just the down-low backgrounds are all on the same page and the number one question that comes up is what is a Marketplace and I think everyone out there has their own definition I have a pretty broad definition of marketplaces because then I think. That helps us not talk about the different flavors and. You know some of the pros and cons of those flavors some people have a really tight definition of marketplace is a lot of times it's funny you get into these late-night over beer discussions around well is that a Marketplace or not. Azure me simply a Marketplace. Jason: [2:37] People in the world get into a late night beer conversation about. Scot: [2:40] You'd be surprised especially at the people you and I hang out. Jason: [2:45] Imagine if the channel advisor conference is that happens a lot but yeah. Scot: [2:49] There's actually Prime more discussion around what's not a Marketplace and what is anyway my kind of loose definition of a Marketplace is a venue where buyers and sellers come together to meet and buy stuff. The meeting is just part of the fun of it all but it's really a a way for buyers and sellers to meet each other or transact and and. How many conomic kind of exchange is that that you're definition. What will talk as we go into different types of marketplaces so we can kind of talk about you the different flavors with in that room. Jason: [3:23] No I don't that's not a controversial definition to me I guess the Nuance buyers and sellers come together to buy stuff like I probably would say buy stuff from each other like to me that's the. Scot: [3:36] Exchange so what's interesting is when you look at the data out there. The trend is marketplaces are growing faster so marketplaces is Corinne Gartner a growing 23% year-over-year in the US versus kind of 15% of eCommerce now they're part of that 15% so it's actually probably like. 12% or 10% - marketplaces the number of marketplaces exploding if you look at markets like China over there over 90% of transactions are on a Marketplace so you hear the US were at something like 55 60% and you have a lot of people would would predict that at some point we may actually get because marketplaces are growing so fast in there so many new ones popping up maybe we'll look more like China down the road so that begs the question why are these marketplaces so popular and I can look at five areas where marketplaces add value in in today's world in this kind of layers in with changing consumer behavior for the consumer has changed more in the last 10 years in the last hundred so consumers Love convenience what were my favorite Jeff Bezos isms is people asking you I'm starting a company what should I. [4:49] What should I bet on and his recommendation is bet on things that won't change so instead of picking something that's like the hot new thing that on something that's not going to change and this is why I consumers like marketplaces because they bring elements that that you know people are just going to love more of down the road so convenience no one. People dye their time more and more so convenience is a good one selection so if you're going to go to Avenue B at a physical location or website or an app for what not you know the more you have to buy from assuming you can navigate it the better off I'm people of Valium so in addition to convenience bball is love to save money I'm and then the those are pretty tangible and we can measure them the ones that are little bit harder to measure our trust. So a lot of the value provided by marketplaces is giving the buyer and seller this kind of trust umbrella to to make sure that if something goes wrong in the transaction and can be unwell and then. [5:48] You another thing that's really helped the surge of marketplaces is the increase of mobile traffic so a lot of bubble places we'll talk about have elements that they give mobile kind of the Titan with the phone that's obviously helped Amazon and eBay so when he when you're when you're we're out and about the more products in your hand the better off so mobile has been another area that's really cause to search here and then the creation of a lot of the new marketplaces can be put back. [6:19] Mobile the surgeon mobile the last one the last trenda I spend a lot of time thinking about it and we've had Casey on the show is that this bifurcation this is value or any consumer versus the convenience or any consumer and what are things that I think a lot of. People I talked to in the industry that don't get is you like okay convenience I get it but then there's like this addictive element of convenience so you know you and I are big Starbucks user so once you've used the mobile app functionality of Starbucks then the next time you get in that Starbucks line even though I happily waited there for years before the mobile app came out. When should when you get back in that line it just feels like it's taking 10 times longer than it should server example I checked into my hotel hear the lock didn't work they sent for someone to come they didn't come in 5 or 10 minutes it felt like an eternity so I just went it was easier to go get a new room then then to the Other Extreme tips of people are addicted to zero friction and decreasing friction and that's going to be a theme that you'll see when we talked not openly about why are marketplaces so popular vote but wire what are the next wave of marketplaces. Jason: [7:30] I totally buy that song like the focus on these sort of a bum Evergreen benefits. Scot: [7:37] So those are the benefits that marketplaces Bluebird by a lot of people are familiar with this kind of Amazon flywheel I was one of the first people to use it now it's kind of overdone but yeah it it shows this is one of the reasons marketplaces are growing so rapidly is you have this this virtuous cycle a lot of people call it Network effects where you know you. If I will get started off with selection is anger point so he could to resolve selection that brings more consumers in that means more sellers come to your platform cuz they're going after the buyers and that brings more selection that's one leg of the flywheel and then the other leg is once you get enough selection you start have overlapping selection now you have competition prices go down that's kind of this classic flywheel this built on these consumer preferences that that are causing marketplaces to grow faster than individual consumer things. Cool so you know if you're most of our listeners are kind of what I would classify as retailers or brands of all sizes why should you care. The boy that says it's kind of largest segment of e-commerce it's growing and we want to do on this one is actually kind of turn your head sideways a little bit and talk about Sony's new models and then I think that will help you dick even most retailers are already kind of cross the chasm of thinking about should I sell on a Marketplace or not there's a couple of new ways to think about marketplaces I wonder who's here if they will talk about. [9:06] Let's talk about the the types of first of all let's listen to these couple terms so we talked about marketplaces one of the things we talk about is we use this slang one piece repeat. I'm a third-party Marketplace is a Marketplace like eBay where just sellers are are there and it's only sellers involved. I'm a first party transaction is where is a traditional retail transaction. So Amazon's one of those marketplaces that's kind of unique in that you have first party meeting Amazon is departing and third-party meeting through other sellers. I'm so we would tend to use more talk about marketplaces as an industry we tend to use this one p3p kind of language. I'm your specific to Amazon a lot of people within just Amazon Silo Amazon has two platforms vendor Central and Seller Central so vendor Central is the one p platform so if you're going to sell on Amazon to use that. I'm in the 3p platform is vendor Central those things are emerging as as a popular strategy has become to do both which is even kind of more mind-bending. So it's those are just some binoculars to make sure one understands cuz we'll start to use those another common language is gmv gross merchandise value or volume depending on who you talk to I'm in weird catching there is just like the payments world you have kind of two measurements you have Revenue but it's a derivative of the transactional value going to the system I'm in the payments roll we use TPB a lot of times is that. [10:36] Kind of a transaction processing volume and then gmv is the value of the goods going through the marketplace and then the formula is the most Mark marketplaces have a a commission. Take rate are there a lot of different names for I prefer take rate the fees they charge for transacting on their platform the revenue is is essentially gmv X take rate equals the revenue of the marketplace so those are bunch of terms I just wanted to lay out there. Jameson. Jason: [11:07] I think it's the big ones a question I often get and I'm curious what your answer is is what happened at 2 p. Scot: [11:15] Yes or some people call Dropship to pee so so that would be second-party yep so you know if you want to kind of stretch at you can you can kind of say a Dropship relationship is is kind of a 2p. Jason: [11:30] Yeah I just like to say it's it's not it's not a sequence it's we're talking about first party things and third-party things not counting. Scot: [11:37] Yeah yeah there's no fourth party stuff there could yeah I don't know if you have to the types of products are the types of marketplaces so so, I just mentioned so eBay is a pure third-party Marketplace a lot of people are familiar with some of the Chinese marketplaces like tmall and taobao all those are all pure third party then you have your Amazon introduced this idea of what I would call hybrid Marketplace so you have some first-party some third-party all the other retailer type marketplaces are like that so Walmart Sears Etc they would be this hybrid kind of a thing there's. If you're on a Marketplace and you can't tell you no it's a market Place item but you can't tell who the seller is I call that a Dropship Marketplace yeah there's probably some other way there to Brand it where the seller is masked so you're essentially you know you're buying from this these kind of sellers back there but they're not identified in their own way that's how all Overstock works for example in a couple of the new marketplaces will talk about. What are those all of this stuff I just described are what we call two-sided marketplaces so there's a buyer and a seller. [12:49] What are the interesting things in The Last 5 Years in this is kind of probably part of the Advent of of the rise of the smartphone in the mobile world is 3 sided marketplaces so you add this third side I'm a classic example here is the food delivery companies so you have the buyer who is the hungry consumer not like you and I right now it's around dinner time and then the seller is typically restaurant it may actually be a commercial kitchen is kind of coming up as another thing. [13:14] That's two sides of the marketplace but the two of us unless we're going to go pick up the food the two of us can transact until we have that third side which is typically the delivery Marketplace so a lot of this was born from realizing with the ride sharing apps Uber lifting the big ones and then Dede in the. [13:35] In China's accident D D D D D D anyway. To that created this this kind of ability to say hey there's there's a fair number of gig workers out there that are willing to move something from point A to point B. Plug them into this Marketplace and now we've got a three-sided Marketplace that's one example you're now seeing. Obviously ubereats kind of participates that in themselves but now you're seeing furniture delivery all kinds of marketplaces now that are on this three sided so that the third leg that most of you they're familiar with product marketplaces is new is the the middle infrastructure Logistics kind of marketplace to get to plugged in on that side. Jason: [14:20] And is I can imagine that a little bit of a gray area like. How much value that that middleman provide sort of designates whether it's a two party or third-party market like cuz you you could look at Amazon and say. Like even on their third party sales when they're doing fulfillment by Amazon and adding all all this value to the sale that that could be a 3 of 3 sided Marketplace. Scot: [14:47] Where to get super technical at kind of think if if if the buyer or seller is providing the logistics it's a two-sided Marketplace. But an example where would be a three-sided Marketplace is Amazon does have Flex which is a driver Marketplace so so if your order came through Flex I would argue that's a three-sided Marketplace but if Amazon was employed the drivers now on Amazon does have this hold delivery program which is kind of sin cholita 99 so yeah so so if I think increasingly more and more of it is three sided. [15:19] Yea nice things blurry over time, so that's kind of where we are and that's the history so it said you can look at the size out there the biggest Marketplace operator I put elastics here cuz why these China Chinese companies that when they report these DMV numbers their there they're not gaap accounting there's a lot of craziness that goes on in the China market around did a transaction really happen or not. I'm and there's there can be a bigger disconnect between the DMV and the actual Revenue the company silver example Alibaba has a Marketplace called. A cowbell where and in an Ali Baba itself to be to be Marketplace really buyers and sellers meet and it's more of an ad platform and then you know they make some assumptions and say that's the gmv they're not actually collecting. A rake. Take Kratom from that Marketplace so I think I actually just recently taobao. What's London's weeaboo tencent. So so tencent Alibaba and JD depending on your kind of which day do you look at and believe there there's a largest ones out there and and that's because you have the Chinese e-commerce markets already bigger than the US and then 90% of its marketplaces and and the others there's there's a kind of race they all have to, put out bigger and bigger DMV numbers hard to tell how much of that is true. Jason: [16:45] I sometimes think of it they now LG is like a Craigslist where. Craigslist probably classified ads like facilitated a lot of sales but Craigslist wouldn't know. Exactly how much sales they they fulfilled so you can imagine them reporting some estimate of how much sales were generated then there may not be perfectly at. Scot: [17:08] Yeah what they do is just the way you and I we were kind of napkin diagramming this we would say well yeah we had this many what you do know is traffic numbers rights we had this many listings in this many buyers come through let's assume a conversion rate of. X percent somewhere between 5 and 10 probably and then an average order value of 75 bucks and then boom you know Craigslist does 50 billion dollars a year. Those numbers you have to take a grain of salt, then as we as we go down a level on Teen Mom which is another part of the Alibaba that one is actually you know you're required to use a Lipe and everything it has at a crate so there you can see that you. It's relatively large and even just tea Mall itself is effectively. To Amazon's in an eBay so it's huge so you know it's kind of the scale we're talking about here so there's a bigger marketplaces in the China area, I'm did you come down to the US Amazon has grown to be larger than than eBay kind of north of 100 billion and then you have eBay at about 90 billion and then you come down and and you have a bunch of smaller marketplaces. [18:15] I'm so glad all this up and it's about 50 to 60% of transactions you guys are going through I'm by by gmv dollars transaction dollar amount are going to marketplaces. So so definitely a big opportunity for Brands to consider and and and think about as well as retailers. Let's talk about some of the new trends in marketplaces so some of the new marketplaces that have hit the scenes so Target plus I think it's one of the biggest ones that's been announced in the last year that hasn't gotten a lot of PR so you know full disclosure I guess I should have said this at the top but I started a company in 2001 called Channel advisor we went public in 2013 2015 I moved from CEO to Executive chairman of still chairman of the board there but I'm not involved in the day-to-day but I didn't know we're one of their launch Partners at Target plus and that's been a big. From what I understand that's been really successful for those sellers on there now a lot of times when when folks. Get into the world of marketplaces they they rightly do so cautiously nothing Targets in that camper I think it's an invitation only type of a Marketplace but. I'm right here it's doing pretty well. [19:33] The end in one of their they're interesting Innovations is using that store footprint when we have conversations with retailers about launching of marketplace one of the big concerns is I am so someone buys a pair of sneakers from Jason sneaker shop and they try to return them to the Target store you know what it what the heck is the sales associate going to do. I'm Target to the lot of chair with their Marketplace tube to really kind of tie that whole experience together and in my understanding is it works really well where you could buy anything on the market place and return it in the store on your next Target once it's kind of a neat. Differentiator that have their Walmart obviously has had kind of ups and downs with with marketplaces so they had their own Marketplace in the acquired judge Mark Lori who came along with that acquisition is a big believer in marketplaces and he was at Amazon for a long time. He started Quincy which didn't operate a Marketplace but sold was very aggressive selling on marketplaces and leveraging them and we mentioned you mentioned on a recent new show that they're kind of doubling back down on marketplaces at Walmart, you you point it out to other new marketplaces that you wanted Highland. Jason: [20:43] So I sign in malls has launched the marketplace and appreciate that make is a head-scratcher but then you realize Simon has traffic that comes to their own website and they've. They're trying to drive traffic to their own website and they want to be able to sell all the. The goods that their tenants in their mall would offer it right and so what what's the solution for having a. You know website owned by Simon that can sell goods from all these different tenants from their brick-and-mortar properties it's essentially hosta Marketplace where are those tenants can sell their goods to the traffic that comes to send them all so they're kind of created a digital version of there. Their physical malls I know and this was interesting to me because Urban Outfitters is sort of a vertically integrated set of brands that mostly sell their own stuff. And they actually the last year launched the marketplace and sort of expanded their assortment which is interesting because I don't think that they were a big wholesaler outside of the marketplace. Scot: [21:55] Yeah and then another Trend within marketplaces is to go really vertical so you know if you're a buyer of a certain category the generic experience you get from an Amazon or Ebay or Target or Walmart is your maybe you have some filters by size or something like that. But let's say I'm a comic book collector and I really care about you is this graded by a commercial Grading Company and what is that grade and you know what series is this thing I maybe if I go to eBay looking for that item I maybe it's kind of going to 5000 listings to try to narrow it in that maybe and then I can't really get my handle on if it's really kind of what I'm looking for so you're seeing this kind of explosion of what I would call hyper vertical experiences for folks one that's kind of a really interesting one is house so this is in the in the. [22:50] Home home home improvement category, how started out is this really cool way to husband and wife team wear I think I did was a kitchen remodel I think they did a remodel part of their house they realized that there was no tools for really kind of visualizing it in and putting together the whole project. So you know being I think one of them are there both Engineers they they said there's a need here so I think they kind of. [23:16] You know I necessity was the mother of invention that created this tool I'm in for a long time it was just that and then what they realized is if you go through the steps of saying alright I want a new bedroom and here's the drapes and the bedding and the mattress and all that stuff and you could print a shopping list when I go that last kind of step and say hey here's a little Marketplace of your now you're at the bed Choice selection now you can see a Marketplace of beds you can see a Marketplace of wall coverings whatever it is so that's really interesting one where you know you would you wouldn't have to think of a Marketplace being plugged in that way but it do, I've actually seen them on the IPO watch list recently that this the GMB from the marketplace component is is by far the largest part of what they do and it kind of. You know that that tail is wagging the dog now where the remodeling tool is become just a driver for sales into the marketplace one of our favorite guest and listeners Jason Del Rey is really into the sneaker area there they're called sneakerheads so there is a huge I don't know how to size this was all so funny about the internet and then they become. [24:28] Five ten fifteen billion dollar niches because once you kind of get in there to find it in proven experience it can explode on you so there's a company called goat and they recently merge with Fight Club they're effectively a Marketplace for new and used sneakers really kind of putting out a grape by her experience for that sneaker collector I'm which can imagine you know notify me when you find this item I've been looking for in my size and this condition again the things that are really important to these folks have a different differentiated experience. [25:01] On the show we've been talking a lot about real real recently that's essentially a Marketplace for these kind of higher-end items that need a verification stuff. So if you're going to go and make a an investment in a $500 Louis Vuitton bag or a certain piece of jewelry you don't want that to be something that was sold outside the Theater District on a on a sidewalk if you want someone that is an expert in, identify certifying and verifying that these are real items that are are you know from the manufacturer. So so those are some of the interesting things Trends there another Trend we wanted to talk about was. Marketplaces kind of going offline so it so there's a couple we had date on the show that's a good example of you know you could call that a krog Marketplace but sky like a real estate Marketplace in the way to so your Betta is gone out and and adult stores and they have these brands that are kind of like Mike releasing some of the real estate inside of their crate this really interesting unified experience for people to discover products what are some of the other up-and-coming physical marketplaces. Jason: [26:11] Yeah but I think that's physical marketplaces are really catching on there's a neighborhood Goods which started out in Dallas and I think they just did. A reasonable size raised in my head I want to say like 10 million. And they've announced a few new stores like there might be one coming to New York right now there is a store in New York called Schofield fields that has some like interesting spins on the customer experience they offer for each one. Macy's has a. A separate section of the store they called Macy's Marketplace which is powered by Beta so uses the beta technology but it's it's Macy's property and they essentially lease a space in that and those are. I'm starting to me all examples of these emerging physical marketplaces. Scot: [27:01] Yeah and Alibaba is actually gone on record in and that's their biggest strategy for the next five years as they call it Ono online and offline so taking all these things they learn in the marketplace online we have infinite shelf and then boiling it back down into a physical type experience. Jason: [27:16] And I forgot to mention there's a. One of these physical marketplaces in the Mall of America which I think it's called four corners and then Mackenzie the Strategic consulting firm just announced they were going to open their own brick and mortar store as a. Certified living retail lab also in Mall of America and my understanding is that is basically a brick-and-mortar marketplaces well. Scot: [27:43] I think we need a road trip to Mall of America. Maybe we'll go next July I don't I don't go to Minnesota past October. Jason: [27:50] Probably smart and I'ma have to you may have a tough time adapting to Caribou Coffee in Minnesota that will get moved. Scot: [27:56] Okay I can make the coffee change its the minus 10 degree weather that doesn't sit well with. Jason: [28:00] Fair enough. Scot: [28:01] So that's kind of an interesting trend is in the end product marketplaces is kind of going it from online into the offline world a couple other big trends that we're seeing in product marketplaces put into two buckets what is friction reduction in this is kind of an that your convenience bucket that we talked a lot about in the other one is advertising Marketplace hybridization so I did the things are Blended together the site of reduction of friction you know one of the sets of Facebook has been quite active in the marketplace category in there taking a couple runs at this that that haven't worked if you remember Way Way Back you should be able to set up your company pages and have a little store in a tablet I'm weeks terminal out with that with folks and knowing whatever they could barely find your company page much less the antelope Marketplace tab. [28:51] And then then Facebook kind of just created what they saw was all these people forming their own little groups so we have one of these in my neighborhood where it's just kind of a the Facebook group and then it it tends to very quickly have a little kind of product section. [29:05] Play Private Eyes that with something called Facebook Marketplace which is really more that Craigslist kind of a vibe but now they're they're doing a lot of experimentation around that to make it and inviting real sellers in there that are not just kind of know hey I have used cops for fifty bucks kind of a thing they're they're putting the kind of tiptoeing into a seller platform payments platform in those kinds of things and then also. Also within that world Instagram has been quite aggressive on this and just rolled out Instagram check out and that is seems to be getting a lot of focus from Facebook and in a lot of nursing directions they could take that so what interesting direction is if I'm an influencer could I recommend a certain product and have you know almost like an affiliate type relationship there where I promote you I have a picture of this item and it made its cool pair of shoes and you know. You can buy it directly from the brand but then I get some kind of a revenue share from from promoting them so that's the only really interesting and they seem to be putting a lot of a fair amount of effort into the Instagram check out then so far it seems to be going really well didn't you want to add on the Facebook Instagram son. Jason: [30:22] No I mean again I think those are definitely. Interesting experiments at the moment like it you know it big controversial question is that that model has worked really well for a long time in China so far it hasn't had amazing success in the US so it's I feel like it's interesting to. Keep watching that and see if it gets customer. Scot: [30:46] Yeah absolutely said so the there's been way more failures here than than successes in the US to Twitter had a buy button Facebook how to buy Button as well as part of the ad format. Jason: [30:59] Yeah I think Pampers at online store on Facebook in 2007. Scot: [31:04] And you know what I would is a Marketplace person with a lot of these Market. Please continue to get wrong is the user experience so that order one for example you know and we were we were one of their Partners on this. You know it's pretty easy to put a buy button out there but it's really hard to answer questions like well where is the product detail Page live. Yeah what would a lot of people that want to do a quick and dirty Marketplace also don't get right is inventory so you know the Twitter answer was will people will go buy the stuff and then the retailer can't all of it was out of stock let's see you do that twice is consuming your life. Forget the Twitter by button because you know it's totally not helpful things like sizes so and then if you get another calories categories to get into a parent-child relationship so you got like colors and sizes and then you get into fitment in so so a lot of a lot of times people say you know this kind of Go Fast and break stuff and BP culture I'll Chris he's really bad user experiences and I would argue a lot of these guys have not made it into the marketplace world because they've got so many corners it was really bad customer experiences early on. Jason: [32:17] Diana it gives me I just in general with marketplaces what are the magic you have to get right is you you have to make it work for both audiences the buyers and the sellers and if you like you know some people are really good at. Appealing to the buyers. But they don't offer nothing manatees to the sellers or you know some people are really good at offering amenities for the sellers but they're not graded attracting buyers and it seems like the trick to all successful marketplaces is. They're they're able to grow their value prop on both sides of that Marketplace in relative Harmony so they they don't end up with a. Ton of buyers and not enough stuff for them to buy and they don't end up with a ton of inventory and not enough consumers that want an inventory. Scot: [33:02] Yeah yeah Dan and I you know how to start a guy get approached by a lot of people building marketplaces and analogy like to use is it's like rowing a canoe or a kayak if you if you only roll on one side yours can go in this endless circles and, marketplaces great when you get it up to scale but it's really hard to get it up to scale because you're essentially building to businesses you're blowing the buyer side in the seller side and you've got to have enough capital and hotspot and then also. You know there's this balance in the force kind of a thing that you have to do on on both sides of the equation to build the marketplace right and most of them do fail because they'll, they want reason of capital they'll they'll row on one side of boat and not the other or you know that they won't nail that. User experience in the middle or they won't have enough value a lot of times you just kind of introducing a buyer and a seller isn't enough you have to really kind of had that. Trust factor and you know that serendipitous Discovery and in some of those things that are really hard to nail 100%. Jason: [34:07] I was going to say I don't know that you'd call these different kinds of marketplaces or not but two that are coming up a lot and my conversations so I'm starting to have a lot of what I've been calling B2B marketplaces. A business that usually is the manufacturer of a product that historically did not sell that product to direct direct to their there. In business user that they had a an intermediary distribution Channel and so is the world is gone from physical to digital and they stop taking fax orders and move to a website. They still don't want to cut out their distribution channel so. Traffic for the product is going to the brand manufacturer But ultimately the brand manufacturer wants. One of their value-added resellers are there Distributors are there dealers or whatever their framework is to be the person that sells that product and so. Marketplaces a perfect solution. For that so I'm trying to see a lot of businesses like she would Packard Enterprise where you know one about the servers at hpe. Calm and then by the server from. A bar that's essentially a seller on hewlett-packard's Marketplace. Scot: [35:25] Absolutely yes so this is where we can I take this Marketplace concept and most people think of it and I should I saw an Amazon or not it's kind of like they're big Marketplace question but if we turn it on if we turn it 90 degrees how can you use marketplaces to make your business better so so using it as a way to using a Marketplace as a way to you know navigate Channel conflicts is one opportunity another one that we see a lot of and it is kind of what you see with the targets and Walmarts in the world is exploding Out product selection so let's say, you not like to argue about the away suitcases for example so it's always built this really great audience of Travelers and if they want to really explode out there skus sure they can go to the old school way of of kind of building a bunch of them themselves but what if what if they just want to you have some recommended products that work well like maybe some Bose headphones or something like that for travelers or. [36:22] Hello I'm selling that they probably wouldn't build they can go to that old school way of going and sourcing people to EDI and all the stuff or would it be more effective to effectively just kind of hanging a travel Marketplace off of their website so it's another thing that's kind of interesting is you know and then. And you don't have to again when it when you bring that up a lot of people like oh you know I don't want people to buy toys from my thing you can you can because you can control this you can control the rules of engagement right so even in your B2B example A lot of people will say why don't want. [36:56] Tell her one and tell her to compete with its that's fine you don't have to. Marketplaces that. Just have one seller and maybe it's by geography whatever the Rules of Engagement are of your Marketplace it have there but what you're doing is you're part of that that ethos of the Ring a Marketplace is. Everyone having a great user experience giving the seller tools to manage things on their selves versus you as a company taking on all the ownership of that management of things so it's a much better shared responsibility and your supplier will be happier when when they have cell service tools cuz they can make a bunch of decisions themselves versus you kind of forcing them on them within the Rules of Engagement. Jason: [37:40] That's why make sense the other use case that's come up a lot I don't know if it's just. Accord have timing or there's a lot of these these these kids is out there but is a Marketplace solving a regulatory problem and so by that what I mean is the automotive industry for example like in most cases the manufacturer is not allowed to sell the cars to a consumer so a manufacturer makes the car. A dealer has to sell the car to a consumer and so even one of the solutions there is at the manufacturer's website via Marketplace and have the Dealer's be. Sellers on that Marketplace and in much the same vein is illegal for the the alcohol product. Creator to sell the alcohol to a consumer so drizly one of the most popular alcohol delivery services. Is really just another Marketplace you know they're they're not the seller of record selling alcohol and having to deal navigate all the. The issues with alcohol licenses in distributor licenses versus dealer license is there a market place and they allow. Retailers that have a retail distribution alcohol license to sell on their Marketplace. Scot: [38:54] Yeah and you can imagine you know what's used automobile dealership because it's kind of near and dear to my heart you know you can imagine will who gets the lead well let's say you're in you look like our region of Raleigh-Durham there's like four Toyota dealers within like a kite area well now it now you can use those Rules of Engagement to create the right Behavior so you can say who gets the highest scores on there their service department whose sales reps get the highest NPS scores and you can kind of change the the flow of leads are our sales into the the dealership based on these kinds of Rules of Engagement and drive the behaviors you want so you maybe have a bunch of dealer saying that vehicles in stock and they don't suit so there's all out of stock in the stock thing a lot of the same kind of things we we see in the world. I guess cars are product but they can have in the widget world could be applied to the vehicle thing or or. Or even alcohol which alcohol store gets the order could be based on you know. [39:58] How update are you on this then you can start to create all these interesting new monetization mechanisms you know like you know the dealers made us an ad platform you could learn them so that's another one of things we're going to talk about the second is is this is interesting way to layer in advertising into marketplaces in and have a whole nother layer of you know self management in letting giving the marketplace seller participants pools to let them hash it out figure out what the right thing is for the consumers. [40:30] So then so the two biggest Trends in marketplaces that were seeing kind of here around 2019 I talked about reduction of friction so so we're seeing people trying to do that in Social and a lot of times what we're doing is we're bringing the transaction up right so let's use Instagram as an example so you see this exciting new shoe on Instagram now you go to Shalom some shoe site and then you have to login create a thing you know all that stuff, and then re-enter all your payment details so bad by pulling it up and getting getting a bunch of clicks it's going to make it better for everybody that's whatever it's got going for the Holy Grail and as you mentioned has worked in China but not the US ship was in that vein Google has been chewing away at this for a long time and their own kind of version 4 or 5 of this on the latest iteration is Google shopping actions and that's where you do a search for something and you'll see this little icon and that effectively you can buy now right from the Google ad on your mobile device I believe this is Android only right now but where are you know, again. Lozier child as a partner in the sand I think we're seeing some really good traction from folks that are in this program because you can imagine you know you go from a you all right I didn't add I got to click then I had to have a converging and all that good stuff to now I had an ad and I got to convert so you take all these steps out of there it's going to be better. Jason: [41:59] Just less friction between the purchase intent and the purchase. Scot: [42:02] Yeah. Yeah and you know what's interesting is the travel industry is ahead of us in the e-commerce world so Google travel has you can buy a ton of stuff right from Google travel and I think they're taking a bunch of learning as they've got there I'm weird that song Like a Virgin 600 and they're bringing it over into the product world so so I think you know with all the Google smarts going on and they seem pretty committed to this all the way up to company so so that's why I want to keep an eye on and it would be a Jason's not sure if we did talk more about Amazon sew in April this year Amazon announced one day Prime so you're just when everyone thought that they could kind of catch up to 2-day Prime now there's one day Prime and you know I seen data that shows increasing late that day since April they've really been dramatically delivering on this and ramping up their delivery program kind of in in front of holiday so it's something like, about half of the products now Prime eligible products are also eligible for one day Prime so so I think my holiday next year will have you know almost. All prime deliveries will be 1-day except for certain regions like Wyoming or something. [43:11] Another big Trend in marketplaces is this ad Marketplace hybridization and Ali Baba was way out in front of this show so taobao for example almost all the revenue on taobao comes from ads because that's a person-to-person Marketplace and they're not collecting at a crate a really is is they make all the money from ads say to bestie mad Mormon put in tea malt in about half the revenue and tmall is from a transaction fee in the other half is from an ad you have to do is we have to be careful is just when you throw ads in there it can do no do spam right cuz a lot of times the person that can spend the most on an dad. [43:49] Actually may have the worst product offer for consumers because they've got the most margin to spin on a Stanley add Amazon is very clever way around this is you have to own the buy box which means you got a great value then you can do an ad so then as we talked the Amazon ad functionality is a exploded a bus for vendor Central and Seller Central in overwhelmingly a large percentage of the pixels on the screen are sponsored or advertising. So that has been a huge Trend and now we've seen Walmart replicate that and I think you're going to see a lot of other people look at this marriage of ads and marketplaces makes it hard as a vendor in this world be at 1 P r3p or even hybrid cuz now you got all these. Just give you this whole nother set of levers should I reduce the price on my product and nickel or should I spend more on Advertising is it really how much of its accretive like truly additional and how much of it isn't so that you know you're still a lot of thinking going on around there and I'm sure you guys think a lot about that as well. [44:54] Set and then also you kind of brings crashing into the world all the agency guys now and product guys are like hey what are you guys doing here go do some TV ads or whatever it is you guys do so it's really interesting that that that intersections causing a lot of friction and and a lot of resetting and Mini Market Place examples back to you're thinking well I thought I knew it all I was on this Marketplace let me rethink that figure out how how do I leverage this advertising piece and how do I think about the ROI on that. I always keep an eye out side the World Of Products on marketplaces to see what's going on there's a lot of really interesting things they are going going down one of the biggest ones is you know for a long time investors love these kind of zero asset marketplaces so eBay 0ass at Marketplace it's a bunch of people in San Jose just kind of guiding the marketplace and all the buyers and sellers. [45:46] Get involved with the company Amazon is more full stack because they do get involved at the 1p Parton to get involved in the shipping, that's a big Trend so as companies have started to try to have a better customer experience they are they're going deeper. Classic example you a lot about is in the real estate industry so in the early days you had Zillow and Trulia those two companies. Merged and you know they would essentially they're kind of a lead Marketplace for realtors then accompany kind of came out and said you know if we if we did really good data analytics and we just bought the houses for kind of turn to 20% below market and then flipped him very quickly we can have a much higher take rate so the average take rate in a real estate market place is like 10% but these guys have like at 33%. Take right now. That's one that's kind of the the bullish example the bearish or negative example would be by really loading up on a lot of real estate if there's a recession you know who's going to be the last person kind of in the musical chairs there so it's so that it remains to be seen what's going on there we work gets pulled into this because I effectively kind of. [46:59] Kringle market place where they go and take long-term leases and then they're kind of real estate Marketplace inside of that lease Airbnb is a great Marketplace for vacations and where you want to stay there going why it is so there is trying to put together unique experiences that kind of say all right you know you you want to have a fun family outing we're going to put you in a treehouse and along with that Randy horse riding and and and that kind of thing. Last one I'll point out is this is where Uber and Lyft are doing some interesting things and this is anchoring around the customer and they're saying my customer wants transportation and they came to me for cars what other Transportation can I give them so it's this is called multimodal in the transportation world so they'll say all right Jason you want to get from this location in Chicago 2 and location in New York you're going to scooter from here to the subject of the what he got caught the L I'm here in Chicago and that's going to take you to the airport and then that's going to take a New York and then we're going to have Lyft pick you up and take you from point A to point B I'm in and maybe in there you'll you'll ride other mix mixes of Transportation so so taking the consumer and trying to grab more of their journey is a really interesting kind of thing and then that world you call it multimodality I'm so kind of fun to Think Through what else can we do in their product world for people around this stuff you know if are there signals that we get from these products where we could tie in. [48:26] Maybe a trip somewhere or travel or who knows what else we could try in there. Jason: [48:31] Even just like that installation services and stuff that you see marketplaces like Amazon start to bundle with sales feels like a a permutation of that. Scot: [48:41] Yeah and then the last one if you if you are interested in learning more there's a lot more material out there about marketplaces when I remember it was kind of lonely in 2001 being the guy screaming it top of Mount about marketplaces but now the good news is there's a lot more content out there one of the best ones is they're Dilaudid PCS that that it really almost got Focus to the exclusivity on marketplaces one of the biggest ones that that loves marketplaces is Andreessen Horowitz. Search Marc Andreessen founder of Mozilla and Firefox and then his partner Ben Horowitz It's Kind of a Funny Thing. [49:26] You eat your so the word internationalization has would like 18 character says i18n so use that same saying Andreessen Horowitz there's 16-character so I think it's a16z I'm so you go to a16z they have a lot of really good content around marketplaces the two folks that really publish a lot there or Jeff Jordan and he was the CEO of eBay and PayPal for a while and then he focuses a lot on marketplaces and then they just recently brought in a guy Andrew Chen and he does a really good job of pontiff Hughes from Uber. I'm in on their growth team so so a lot of really good content there and when you go you may say Scott's crazy while I think about this but you have to kind of connect the dots and think all right. I have a certain business problem in your B2B examples a good one could I use a Marketplace here in a different way that I'm thinking about marketplaces which is the normal should I sell on eBay or Amazon, so a lot of interesting some of this content is how do you solve that two-sided problem of building two things you know how do you how do you fake Demand on one side how do you fix a play on the other there's a lot of really interesting he said he's now in conton out there so what will link to their their blog a landing page and then they also have some good Twitter feeds that willing to in the show. [50:42] So we're getting tight on time so hopefully that gives you a good feeling for marketplaces and some of the different flavors out there and what's going on in the product Market Place world. Some action items so you know if you really one thing I wanted to One Last Train I want to talk about is this is kind of in that category of things becoming marketplaces you wouldn't think, this is maybe even a little bit early prediction for for our prediction show Shopify is an e-commerce platform press and bees and they just recently announced that they're building their own FBA like shipping capability well you know one thing. Shopify lakhs to be a Marketplace is a unified or four people come in and say I want to shop amongst all the Shopify Merchants so so for me that's really interesting one where you know I think we're going to see Things become marketplaces you would have never guessed someone Shopify does it does it then why wouldn't Salesforce all the platform companies you're having this kind of vinaigrette interesting interesting way of taking on Amazon by having a unique shop amongst my Merchants kind of a capability I think we're going to see a lot of. [51:52] Innovation in the next 5 years around that I action items to thanks for making it this far so I'm a big believer that you have to really Embrace these marketplaces they're not for everybody but in the in the kind of the obvious use case figuring out how to sell on them should you sell on them if you're if you're not going to you're going to miss kind of half the opportunity out there. Another one is everyone is very siloed and I think about advertising in one bucket and then where to sell your products in another those worlds are colliding you need to have kind of that capability integrated on your side the the table Stakes of convenience of getting your products out there are very high so you need to be able to partner with someone to help you with those delivery times. The good news is because Amazon's raise the bar a lot of people I've talked to said why I went to a 3pl and you know it was like five days and three times as expensive or more Partners out there that can do this I mention Shopify Zone Network. FedEx UPS Wise Guys now have programs that are very Amazon FBA asked not only in their cost but in their service levels. [53:09] You know you can't say enough about data quality we we we we just talked about personalization earlier and and. The Venn diagram of data quality overlaps for pretty much everything on site merchandising. Yeah that is the one topic you see people don't invest enough in product data so so that's one of those things you get kind of 10x when when he invested really rich product data the same shoe for marketplaces cuz you're going to want to go to sell on Amazon or build your own Marketplace and you're not going to have the right taxonomy and way to do this this is a whole new way of thinking about things so there's a whole new set of measuring and kpi is to develop their and then the last one we talked a little bit about this is consider applying a Marketplace to a part of your business that that's not maybe immediately obvious could have been offline thing you do could it be a way of dealing with suppliers in a much more efficient self-service type way this more scalable and then has some yo. Add-on benefits that that you wouldn't get if you just kind of did it the old school way. Should you have your own third-party Marketplace there's a variety of vendors out there now that will help you set up a Marketplace so they can plug into most of the platforms the one we've talked about on the show before is Miracle they just raised a pretty sizable around 6 to $89 you were smooching there's a couple other than yours out there. Jason: [54:31] Miracle is I think I've is sort of the original enterprise-class solution and it's it's spelled peculiarly for her listeners that I've heard it before it's a m i r a k l which I'm sure they thought was cute but it's kind of been. Yeah yeah and in fact it was the French version of best by fnac that these guys wrote an internal Market play software for. And I thought oh my God like other people need this besides fnac we should turn this into a product until it's either so that's how a miracle was born from. From a fnac but we have not seen a platform. Have native Marketplace functionality yet which is interesting like you you might expect that to come but we have a miracle has done enough traction and with the fundraising we seeing the number of. Newer competitors emerge that can be sort of a plug-in Marketplace like miracle and so one that I've seen in the US a lot recently is one called marketplacer. Which I understand is started out as a European provider in and there are some small or ones that I personally know less about but I do see in the marketplace there's one called near me. There's one called Iceberg there and then when I seen a number of times it's called arcadier and some of these are. [55:55] Flea product I solution some of these are code bases that you can use to add to sort of cells maintain platforms like Magento in a few of them I think are even plugins that are available in the Shopify App Store so you can kind of. Pretty easily add them to your to your existing Shopify installation and then kokorico is the funnest one to say. Scot: [56:18] Coco Rico. Jason: [56:21] I don't either but it's it is another one of these like a startup software service mark. Scot: [56:28] Did you have any other action items for folks on marketplaces that you've seen out there. Jason: [56:32] No I do I think your advice not to overlook. The customer experience elements that it's not just about the offer in the customer I think it is very relevant because I feel like a lot of the. The marketplaces that we've seen not succeed and not every Marketplace in the US has succeeded. It feels like it often comes down to that customer experience at execution until I I I certainly. I'm sort of agree with with that point but yeah that sounds like a great west of action item. Scot: [57:09] And with that we are we hope you've enjoyed this deep dive on marketplaces. Jason: [57:14] And as always if you have further questions especially hard questions for Scott then I highly encourage you to visit us on our Facebook page or hit us up on Twitter. We'll try to stump Scott on the marketplace questions I'm if you have any easy questions I'd be happy to weigh in on them as well. And of course if this show added value we sure would appreciate it if you'd get on iTunes and give us that five star review iTunes being another example of a Marketplace. Until next time happy commercing.

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This we go on an in-depth tour of LA's Little Tokyo with infamous video gamer Chazo (you can read about him here: http://supersmashbrosgeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Chazo). He'll tell me how anime is a community based on much more than overly sexualized imagery and hilarious theme songs -- and he'll try to kick my ass at the arcade. Check him out on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/chazostatue 33:54 - After a few trips to West Hollywood council in my cross-town rambles, I decided it might be appropriate to mash up a public address from @goingdeepwithchadandjt with Vespa by Bicep. I mean, who can argue with adding in some historical context of the ancient vespa debate vis-a-vis our modern trials and tribulations with the e-scooter? You should follow those dudes now. Also, it even led to the actual Mayor Pro Tem to actually tune in to this very podcast. Expect more civic-ambient mash-ups in the episodes to come... 48:16 - And I meet up with dnb mainstay @marcus-visionary as he graces East LA with #heavy jungle and #liquid rollers. 1:11:29 - Rad Reviews - Deb Montgomery "All the Water", Elza "Nothing's Wrong" @elzanoise, The Goldwyn Experiment "Avenue B" @thegoldwynexperiment Music in the episode from: @bloodorange, @dannylharle, @dialogg, @easyfun, @iiris, @spacehardware, @feelmybicep, @jubei-1, @king-krule, @devonlisinski, @houndstoothlbl, @forestswords, @hannahdiamond, @nightbassrecords, @denissulta, @hauznated, @prince_rama-1 + @duskymusic Theme: @nasoshnik

Morgan Weidinger Live as per Morgan Weidinger on this special episode with MUSIC! Morgan is the creator of an experience which we'll call Morgan Weidenger Live. Morgan is a St. Louis-born violinist who also plays piano, guitar, and sings while she plays, sometimes looping the instrument underneath. But that's not all, Morgan's not just an original artist, musician, performer but so much more which becomes apparent at either one of her shows be it The NFL halftime show in 2015 or a more recent show at Rockwood Music Hall or her weekly show Speakeasy Sessions at The Roost (every Thursday night at 8 at 222 Avenue B) or even while talking to her around her home in Alphabet City or elsewhere. perNYC is the “MUST LISTEN NOW" podcast really exploring NYC creations as per their creators. Also now, you can help perNYC grow by listening to more episodes, leaving a review, spreading the word about us, messaging trusty host Jennifer, recommending a creator or creation, coming onto the show and clicking on our websites at www.perNYC.com or @perNYC or @perNYC or @perjennifer More Morgan? https://morganwmusic.com/  

In part two of our series on Rhetorics of Place, Alex and Calvin squeeze into a 5x5 sound booth (reminiscent of a $1,000/month+ studio apartment, or perhaps one floor of a Tiny Home, in a gentrifying Pittsburgh neighborhood) with CMU Master's Candidate in Literary and Cultural Studies Scott Reiss to talk about the politics of urban development. We map out some of the different social, economic, and political factors in gentrification, and how these are specifically playing out in the city of Pittsburgh. We also discuss how the frontier metaphor is used by developers and in the news as a way of justifying the influx of "urban pioneers" to impoverished neighborhoods. Finally, we conclude with some thoughts on different actions that can be taken at a local level to resist gentrification and/or make redevelopment policies that bring wealth to impoverished communities without displacing their residents.Cover image: A “tiny home” designed and sold in the neighborhood of Garfield by Eve Picker, developer and landlord of the East Liberty “Last Billboard” space discussed on our previous episode. Post image: “Keep Pittsburgh Shitty” bumper sticker spotted by a user on the r/pittsburgh subreddit (t-shirt here).Works, Concepts, and News Items Cited in this Episode:Dionne Jr, E. J., Ornstein, N. J., & Mann, T. E. (2017). One Nation After Trump: A Guide for the Perplexed, the Disillusioned, the Desperate, and the Not-yet Deported. St. Martin's Press.Edbauer, J. (2005). Unframing models of public distribution: From rhetorical situation to rhetorical ecologies. Rhetoric Society Quarterly, 35(4), 5-24. [Discusses how the slogan “Keep Austin Weird” was appropriated by developers in Austin.]“Future of Manufacturing To Rise Within Abandoned Steel Mill.” [CMU website article describing the university's new development in Hazelwood.]Glass, R. L. (1964). London: aspects of change (Vol. 3). MacGibbon & Kee. [Coins the term “gentrification.”]Harvey, D. (2008). “The right to the city.” The City Reader, 6, 23-40.Kelly, M. & McKinley, S. (2015). “7 Paths to Development That Bring Neighborhoods Wealth, Not Gentrification.” yes! Magazine.Moore, D. (5/8/2018) “Secrecy surrounding Amazon HQ2 bid will help Pittsburgh win, Allegheny Conference CEO says.” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.Smith, N. (1996). “‘Class struggle on Avenue B': The lower east side as wild wild west.” The New Urban Frontier. New York, NY: Routledge, 3-27.St-Esprit, M. (5/8/2018). “As Bloomfield weighs new development, residents seek to prioritize affordable housing.” Public Source. [Note for Pittsburghers: “The BDC will hold another public meeting regarding affordable housing options in the community at 6:30 p.m. May 24 in the West Penn School of Nursing auditorium.”]

The second episode from DJ Beth & Rex's infiltration of the belly of the DPW beast. The epilogue and afterword for Frisky Whisky's playa plane crash (from S02E07.) Gage's first season. Friend-of-the-Show Xeno is giving Mohawks. Pound Town figures out the timing. Rob is never going back. The Peppermill is a thing. Ice skating on playa. The Gerlach barbecue. Lucky's on Avenue B in NYC. Weird in the wrong way. Plus, everyone shouts "no" at Beth, and variable intoxication throughout. Also, Stories. Meet Stories. And come to Accuracy Third Live.

Pour ce quatrième épisode de la saison, Service Musical reçoit PARAZAR. Au sommaire : actus, sorties, débat et un mix vinyl de 1h !  Tracklist : - Al Dobson Jr. - Peru Timing Pt2 - Amin - Reach For Love - Jeen Bassa - Fania Club - SlowSupreme - African Time - Exodus - Together Forever - 3 Chairs - Misty City - Cholly Rock and the Avenue B. Boogie Band - Cash Money - E Davd - Ice Moon - Christian James - Back In Stride - André Sebastian - Limit Break - Philou Louzolo Edits - Tartit's Tribe (Edit) - Nudge - The Soul Attic - The Black Science Orchestra - Varrio (SOS) - Dj Shanté & Haircules - Temper Say - Franck Roger - K Russel - Hot City - Feelin Love

Pour ce quatrième épisode de la saison, Service Musical reçoit PARAZAR. Au sommaire : actus, sorties, débat et un mix vinyl de 1h !  Tracklist : - Al Dobson Jr. - Peru Timing Pt2 - Amin - Reach For Love - Jeen Bassa - Fania Club - SlowSupreme - African Time - Exodus - Together Forever - 3 Chairs - Misty City - Cholly Rock and the Avenue B. Boogie Band - Cash Money - E Davd - Ice Moon - Christian James - Back In Stride - André Sebastian - Limit Break - Philou Louzolo Edits - Tartit’s Tribe (Edit) - Nudge - The Soul Attic - The Black Science Orchestra - Varrio (SOS) - Dj Shanté & Haircules - Temper Say - Franck Roger - K Russel - Hot City - Feelin Love

Keeping things low-budget can be difficult, and there are many things indie filmmakers do to stretch their budgets as far as possible. This week, we discuss a few of the methods we have used in the past to achieve professional results on an amateur budget. From home-made (and safe!) squibs and blood pumps, how to create a gun muzzle blast with ANY editing software, to inexpensive lighting diffusion and a $5 follow focus. We hit on all of these, plus more items that will help you get that shot you've always wanted, but thought you couldn't afford. Come on out to Lovecraft Bar NYC on Friday, August 25th at 6pm and join us for the HP Lovecraft 127th Birthday Party, and check out three of our short films there; Sleepless, The Au Pair and Knock Knock! 50 Avenue B, New York NY, 10009$5 entry donation, one drink purchase mine21+ event.HORROR Readings 6pm - 9pm BANDS 9pm -midnightHORROR ART SHOW/FILMS 6pm - midnightSubscribe to us on iTunes, Stitcher, YouTube, Google Play, or your favorite podcatching app. And don't forget to rate and review us! Email us at filmmakingsucks@gmail.com with any questions, comments, or subjects you'd like to hear us discuss.We have also (contrary to what was said in this episode) opened our Facebook page, so you can now follow the podcast at www.facebook.com/filmmakingpodcast!#FilmmakingSucks “Even a low-budget film costs way more money than a high-priced record. So, it’s mo’ money, mo’ problems. When you have more money, it just creates more people trying to get involved and you have more trouble.” — Rob Zombie

Our series continues with a journey from Avenue B to Bushwick: Kathy Kirkpatrick tells us about the final days of her Life Cafe in the East Village and essayist Tim Kreider tells us about his exile in Bushwick. Plus your host tries to make sense of the first time he got a glimpse of the new New York at a party in late September 2008. *********Click on the image for the whole story about this week’s installment**********

1.HowSoonIsNow - TheSmiths.JohnPorter.Morrissey.JohnnyMarr (RoughTrade) 2.RidersOnTheStorm – Doors (Elektra) 3.Tatoo - Siouxsie&TheBanshees 4.Alive&Kicking - SimpleMinds 5.BeingBoiled - HumanLeague 6.LetMeGo - Heaven17 7.GimmeShelter – SistersOfMercy 8.SuchAShame – TalkTalk 9.EverythingCounts - DepecheMode 10.SmakesCrawl - BushTetras 11.WalkingOnThinIce - YokoOno. 12.HomeComputer – Kraftwerk 13.Don'tGo – 14.GreenEyes - NewOrder Save The Robots was an after hours club, located at Avenue B and 3 Street, in the East Vilage, New York City in the Eighties and into the Nineties. There was never anything like it then and has never been anything like it since.It's interior was painted by Dom Blonde. Its floors were made of beach sand. "Robots" was frequented by drag performers, musicians, club kids, employees of other bars and clubs, skinheads and other denizens of downtown New York nightlife, You will have to go to the FB page to get an idea of why it was so special. But to put it in a nutshell... it was a place where you could go and find people with great personalities of creativity and originality. The door policy was the most selective of any… and that too I would not be able to define. It was just super interesting. I considered myself privileged every time I made it past the doorgodz. My club The Choice was on the same block. People would go back and forth between the two clubs. Both underground clubs had their distinct flavor of music and club celebrities. I had an opportunity to DJ there several times, and Denis Pruvot owner of STR would often visit The Choice to relax and socialize. Since The Choice served no alcohol … drinkers would run over to STR for it’s speak easy. When STR closed at 8am many would continue their weekend at The Choice until noon. This mix in no way represents the wide breadth of STR music… but I think it does represent the core of what was underground in the early eighties. We called it Dance Oriented Rock, or Post Punk and New Wave. https://www.facebook.com/groups/STRobots/ https://www.facebook.com/richard.vasquez.56211 https://www.facebook.com/richard.vasquez.5494