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Guests:* Rossana D'Antonio – Author of 26 Seconds: Grief and Blame in the Aftermath of Losing My Brother in a Plane Crash* Marty Ross-Dolen – Author of Always There, Always Gone: A Daughter's Search for TruthTwo authors, Rossana D'Antonio and Marty Ross-Dolen, each faced the unimaginable loss of loved ones in separate plane crashes decades apart. Their grief led them to write powerful memoirs—Rossana's 26 Seconds and Marty's Always There, Always Gone—that explore truth, healing, and the lasting impact of tragedy. In an extraordinary coincidence, both books were released in the same week, a situation that could easily spark feelings of rivalry or jealousy between writers. Instead, their shared experience created a bond as they connected over loss, resilience, and the courage it takes to turn pain into story. This episode dives into that connection, exploring not only grief but also the unexpected solidarity found in telling similar stories side by side.Hey everyone, it's Jenny Nash. This episode happens to feature an Author Accelerator book coach. Author Accelerator is the company I founded more than 10 years ago to lead the emerging book coaching industry. If you've been curious about what it takes to become a successful book coach, which is to say, someone who makes money, meaning, and joy out of serving writers, I've just created a bunch of great content to help you learn more. You can access it all by going to bookcoaches.com/waitlist. We'll be enrolling a new cohort of students in our certification program in October, so now's a perfect time to learn more and start making plans for a whole new career.Transcript below!EPISODE 464 - TRANSCRIPTJennie NashHey everyone. It's Jennie Nash. This episode happens to feature an Author Accelerator book coach. Author Accelerator is the company I founded more than 10 years ago to lead the emerging book coaching industry. If you've been curious about what it takes to become a successful book coach, which is to say someone who makes money, meaning and joy out of serving writers. I've just created a bunch of great content to help you learn more. You can access it all by going to book bookcoaches.com/waitlist. That's bookcoaches.com/waitlist. We'll be enrolling a new cohort of students in our certification program in October, so now's a perfect time to learn more and start making plans for a whole new career.Multiple SpeakersIs it recording? Now it's recording, yay. Go ahead. This is the part where I stare blankly at the microphone. I don't remember what I'm supposed to be doing. All right, let's start over. Awkward pause. I'm going to rustle some papers. Okay, now—one, two, three.Jennie NashHey everyone. I'm Jennie Nash, and this is the Hashtag AmWriting Podcast, the place where we talk about writing all the things, short things, long things, fiction, nonfiction, pitches and proposals. Today I'm here to talk with two writers who I brought together because of a very interesting coincidence; each of these writers recently published a memoir about a plane crash. They each lost somebody that they love in a plane crash, and they wrote a story about their search for understanding and their search for healing and what it all means to their lives. These two books are really different stories, which I think is so interesting and says so much about the creative process. And what's remarkable is that these two books were published just one week apart, and these two writers became aware of each other's books and became friends. I happened to have a connection to each of these writers. At several points throughout her writing process, I coached Rossana D'Antonio including the very first time she came into a classroom to write about this story. Her book is called 26 Seconds: Grief and Blame in the Aftermath of Losing My Brother in a Plane Crash. Marty Ross-Dolen is the other author. Her book is called Always There, Always Gone: A Daughter's Search for Truth. Marty is a writer who came into my Author Accelerator book coach certification program to study how to become a book coach, and that's when I became aware of her and her story. In this conversation, Marty and Rossana come together with me to talk about grief, writing, jealousy and so many of the things that make memoir such a difficult and challenging genre to write and also such a satisfying one. I can't wait for you to listen. So let's get started. Welcome Rossana and Marty. I'm so excited to have you both here today to talk about this incredible topic. And before we get going, we are talking just days after there was a terrible plane crash in India in which a lot of people died and one man walked away, and there's a plane crash at the center of both of your books. And I just wanted to start by asking, how do you feel when this happens as it happens so many times, you know, are you okay as we sit here today? Or does this weigh on you? What is it? What is it like to sit here today? So maybe we'll start Rossana with you.Rossana D'AntonioOkay, well, thanks, Jennie, for inviting me on your podcast. It's really exciting to be here and to share, you know, this podcast with Marty. And, yeah, I mean, I, I agree with you. It's really, I mean, I think our memoirs—it's just so timely that they're out during this time because it's, you know, it's not just Air India. We've had several incidents within the last several years, actually, that have brought to light the strain in the aviation industry. It's been, it's been really interesting because, as it seems like there's not a day that goes by that there isn't something in the news with regards to plane crashes or plane incidents, near misses, whatever it may be. But as we experience each incident, and it becomes breaking news, and you know, we're witnessing it on live TV, it is, it is hard not to relive the experience. And I'm—I'll speak for myself—it is hard for me not to relive the experience. And in the book, I kind of talk about it because I say that it's kind of like we belong to this group that we never asked to be part of and this group is made of families of the victims of plane crashes. And, you know, the very first images that you see are of the grieving families and the pain and the grief that is stamped on their faces, the shock of it all. Plane crashes are so dramatic and so violent that it's hard not to get caught up in the whole story, and it's hard not to think of the families and want to comfort them, knowing that their hell is just starting, and all the things that they're going to have to go through, you know, with regards to the aftermath, the investigation, recovering their loved ones and their loved ones' belongings. So it is hard, but I try to, I try to focus on hoping that their recovery or their healing—the sooner they face the disaster, the tragedy—their healing can actually start.Jennie NashIt's got to be so hard. We'll, we'll return to all of these topics again. But Marty, you're... what are your thoughts?Marty Ross-DolenI echo what Rossana says about how—first, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be here with you. I echo, and I love being here with Rossana, and I echo what she says as well. When I see some sort of headline or announcement that an airplane accident has taken place, my heart sinks. My stomach sinks. I know that I'm going to be in it for a couple of days, if not longer, and nowadays, with social media and the immediacy of information—and for the first time, with this devastating Air India crash, and part of it is because there was a survivor—we have information that we've never had before about the experience of it, and somehow, what came across my news feed on social media as well were videos of the inside of the cabin just before the crash. I don't even know how these were available. I don't even know if they're real because of AI—it's... but then I see that because I can't not see it, and I'm stuck with that in my brain until it goes into that little pocket that contains all those things that we see over our lifetimes that we try never to think about again. So it's hard, it's really hard, and it's really hard to get on an airplane. But that's true for everyone. That's true for everyone, but because, as Rossana describes, we're members of this group, this club that we didn't sign on for, it's probably extra hard.Jennie NashYeah, I want to come back to that "get on an airplane" thing, but just so our listeners can know about the stories that I'm referring to here, we know that you both wrote books, and they're both memoirs, and they're very, very different experiences for the reader—vibes, purposes, feelings, all of those things—and yet they share this plane crash at the center. So I wanted to ask if you would each just give a summary of what your book is about—the title, what it's about—so our readers can know, our listeners can know, what we're talking about. Your readers, our listeners. Rossana, we're kind of in a pattern here, so why don't you go first?Rossana D'AntonioSure. Thanks, Jennie. So my story, my book, is 26 Seconds: Grief and Blame in the Aftermath of Losing My Brother in a Plane Crash. And it's the story of—well, the title says it all, right? So on May 30, 2008, TACA Flight 390 departed from El Salvador International Airport en route to Miami, Florida, with an interim stop in Honduras at one of the most notoriously dangerous airports in the world, Toncontín International Airport. The area was buffeted by Tropical Storm Alma at the time. So there was a lot of wind, a lot of rain, a lot of fog, and when TACA Flight 390 attempted to land on the airport's very short runway, it overshot the runway, crashed into an embankment, and killed five people—three in the plane, including my brother, the pilot, and two in a car that were crushed when the plane landed on them. The book is my search for the truth as to what truly happened on that day. I suspected my brother would be made a scapegoat. Seventy percent of airplane accidents are blamed on the pilot, and so I just suspected that that would be our reality. And so this book is the story about me finding answers to the questions as to what happened that day..Jennie NashAnd in terms of the timeline of this story, when I first met you, you had just begun to write about it. I think it was 10 years. Oh, no, I've got that wrong. How long after the event? You came into a class of mine at UCLA—it was really close to the event.Rossana D'AntonioYeah. So it was February of 2009, so it was a little over six months. So it was still very, very raw.Jennie NashI know the 10 years part is you came back to me 10 years later, having finally wrapped your hands around how you wanted to approach it. So the story as you write it is 10–15 years after the event, looking back on it and all the work that you did to understand this crash and you are uniquely positioned. And I remember thinking about this way back when I first met you. You have a very unique perspective on disaster, and you have a very unique positioning or perspective from which to look at that. Do you want to explain what that is?Rossana D'AntonioSure. So I'm an engineer. I'm a civil engineer, and I worked for over three decades in the public sector at Los Angeles County Public Works. I was over—as I left county service, I was a deputy director over our emergency management business area, and so I was trained to respond to all sorts of different disasters. Our agency managed several pieces of infrastructure, including five different airports. So I was trained to not only plan, design, construct infrastructure, but also to respond to emergencies following not only natural disasters but, you know, human-made disasters. And following these disasters, I was the lead for preparing after-action reports, which essentially describe what happened, what went wrong, what went well, and what lessons learned can we actually take away from these disasters. So that was my background.Jennie NashYeah, it's an incredible connection to this tragic event. So we'll come back to that in a minute. So Marty, tell us about your book.Marty Ross-DolenSure. So my book is entitled Always There, Always Gone: A Daughter's Search for Truth. And in 1960, my grandparents were killed in an airplane accident that was a collision over New York Harbor. Their plane—they had left Columbus, Ohio. They were traveling to New York, and they were on a TWA Super Constellation, and then a United jet that had originated in Chicago was flying in. My grandparents' plane was set for landing in LaGuardia. The United flight was set for landing in Idlewild, which is now JFK Airport. The United plane got off course and collided with my grandparents' plane. My grandparents' plane landed in Staten Island in an empty airfield, and the United flight actually continued for a few miles and landed in Park Slope, Brooklyn, killing people on the ground. So on the planes, there were 128 people who lost their lives, and then six people on the ground in Brooklyn. And because of that horrific situation in Brooklyn, that's where most of the sort of media was focused. There was one survivor who survived for about 24 hours—a boy—but he didn't live. My grandparents were on their way from Columbus to New York to meet for a meeting to talk about their family business, their iconic family magazine Highlights for Children, and they were looking to place the magazine on the newsstands. So they were executives with the company, and this accident was actually the largest commercial jet airplane disaster up until that time in 1960, so it was a pretty well-known, famous accident.Jennie NashSo you two have a very unique connection to that accident, and where you stood when you wrote about it is much further in the future from the crash itself, because your mother, if I remember correctly, was 14 years old at the time.Marty Ross-DolenRight. So my mom was 14. It was six years before I was born, so obviously I didn't know my grandparents. My mom was the second oldest of five, and they moved from Columbus, Ohio, to Austin, Texas, to live with a paternal uncle and his family. And so my book is more about my experience of being raised by a mother who was in protracted mourning after having lost her parents and not had a way to process her grief as an adolescent, and as she got older. So my approach to my book is from that angle primarily, in addition to getting to know my grandmother through her letters, which was a significant goal through the writing process.Jennie NashRight. So you have this reverberation through time of this accident and your connection to the work your grandparents did. You're a writer, you're an editor, you're a person who deals with story, and they were—I mean, I was such a reader of Highlights back in the day—and that, you know, you use the word iconic, you know, probably launched the careers of so many writers and thinkers, and you have a connection through time with that, which is a very unique perspective to have on your story. So you each bring these very different ways of looking at this event. So before we kind of dig into the decisions you each made around how to structure your book, and the tone and shape and all of that, part of the reason we're all talking here today is this, what I think of as a very delightful outcome of these books, which is that you know each other. You've met each other after the books were written. And oftentimes we think, when we're writing something, that well, we think several things: nobody's ever written anything like this, and everybody else has already written this story. What do I have to say? You know, those sort of back-and-forth thoughts that writers often have—Is this unique? Do I have something to add? Do I have something to say? How am I going to serve my readers, or what experience am I going to give to my readers? And then, you know just those pinging back-and-forth thoughts. And it's not very often that we get to actually meet a writer who, at the same time, in the same phase here of publishing, you know, just the same year even, has written something that is similar-ish, you know, about a plane crash, but totally different books. But I just want to ask you each about the meeting of each other and the thinking of that book, and what that's like, because it's so unusual to get to have this kind of conversation. So, you know, I imagine there are lots of things going through your head when you heard about this other book or, you know, I don't know if I have a connection to both of you. I don't know if it came from me or what, but why don't we start this time with you, Marty.Marty Ross-DolenYeah, one of the great joys of this last year has been publishing with the same publisher as Rossana, and for us to get to know each other, because we both published our books with She Writes Press, and we just happened to be in the same cohort of summer 2025. We published in the same month, one week apart. Yeah, yeah. And I remember when we first were introducing ourselves as a group, and Rossana mentioned what her story was about. And my reaction was, is it really true? Is there really another airplane accident story amongst us? Because it is—it's not common. I mean, you don't very often come across people who have lost loved ones this way, and what became clear to me over time was that our books were very, very different. And by the nature of the fact that Rossana lost her beloved brother, who she was very close to, and I lost grandparents I had never met, our stories were just—and there's decades that separate these events—so by those natures, it was clear to me that our books were going to be different. I was excited to read Rossana's book. I was also apprehensive because, for the same reason that I described about when I'm reading about it in the news, it's just hard. But I will say, in reading Rossana's beautiful book, I immediately noticed just kindred spirits with her as a writer. It happened early in the chapters that I was reading. I had used the word lullaby to describe the sound of the engines getting going when you're sitting on a plane and it's about to take off, and sort of the sound of almost a lullaby that will put you to sleep. The person who was working with me as I was writing kept crossing that word out: “That doesn't make sense. Why would you call that a lullaby?” And I wanted it in there. It felt so right. And Rossana described that exact time, those sounds, as a lullaby. It was like; this is something that's just unique about people who have experienced what we've experienced.Jennie NashOh, wow, that's so interesting. Rossana, what about you? Your coming upon Marty's book.Rossana D'AntonioI know. What are the odds, right? I mean, I had never met anyone who had ever experienced a plane crash in their family. As a matter of fact, I'm going to get geeky here, but the U.S. Department of Transportation statistics indicate that one in 2 billion people will die in a plane crash. So what are the odds that, you know, life would bring Marty and I together, that had this connection, not only with the plane crash but also with you, Jennie? I mean some that came out later on. And so I thought, wow, you know, talk about serendipity and, you know, the mysterious ways of life. And although, you know, these are very different stories, I mean, they're connected at their core by a common theme, right? Very similar tragedies. And when I read Marty's book, like she says, there was—I was taken aback because there were many similar passages, you know, how we describe things or how we perceive things. There were a lot of commonalities, even though we came from it from different perspectives, which again reinforces my belief that we're part of this group that we never want to be a part of, and we'll always be connected in one way or another. I think one of the things, though, that was obvious when I read her book was that I connected, I understood, I related to her mom, obviously, right? Her mom was one that had experienced this plane crash, so it was kind of obvious the way it had impacted her, the tragedy, the aftermath, the bottling up of her feelings, PTSD, whatever—all of that I, like, clicked. But I think the most fascinating part of Marty's book was how that grief could be transferred from generation to generation. And I thought that was the fascinating thing that I learned that I really didn't know, and how these tragedies can be prolonged for, you know, generations.Jennie NashYeah, it's—well, first of all, thanks for geeking out because that is a good description of what your book is. You have a lot in your book that is kind of geeky in a—you know, you really get into the aviation industry, into the nuts and bolts of, literally, planes and how they function to the way that governments and reports about accidents function. So when reading your book, people get that layer, which is, you know, you bring to that work. So, geek out all you want. It's great. And Marty's book, by contrast, is this exploration of, you know, you drop a pebble in a pond, and how does it hit the shores? And that very emotional—you know, she had a mother immersed in grief. And what does that do to the child? And then the child's impulse to—I think it's the word search in both of your subtitles, I think it might be, or certainly the concept of it—but that idea of a quest or a journey or, you know, a need to understand. And in Rossana's case, it's what happened on that day. In Marty's case, what happened to my mom? You know, like, what was this thing that happened to my mom? And you're both seeking—that core of both of them. So I want to ask about, because I'm fascinated by this—you know, there's a raw material of a story, and how you make your choices about what the tone of that story is going to be, or the shape and structure of that story, what you want the reader to feel or to experience. Can you both go back to when you knew you were going to write about it? I think that's the first thing, is how did you catch this idea as, "This is a thing I'm going to write about"? Marty, do you want to start with that one?Marty Ross-DolenSure. I started writing after I attended a 50th anniversary memorial event for the airplane accident. And there's a sort of story that leads up to that memorial event and my attending it. But prior to that—which was, so that was 2010—prior to that, I wasn't necessarily inclined to write about it. So after attending this memorial event in 2010, a few months later, I just started telling the story of the memorial and putting some backstory into it, and that ended up being an essay that was about... I don't know, it was a long essay, like, say, 40 pages, but I was told the story was done. Because for those of us that like to use writing and words and language to try to process those things that are sitting—that we're obsessing about or sitting in our minds—I wanted to have done that and be done, because this thing was deeper than anything else that I could excavate in terms of pain in my life. So after I submitted this essay to a class that I was taking at Ohio State—writing, creative writing workshop—and at the end of the semester, the professor said to me that he thought that really what I was doing was writing a book, because there was too much material here and I hadn't done what needed to be done. My stomach sank because I didn't want to write a book. It wasn't—I wanted to be done with this topic. So I took his feedback and all of my workshop peers' feedback, and I stuck it all, the pile of papers, into a cabinet, and it stayed there for 14—well, 10—years.Jennie NashWow!Marty Ross-DolenYeah. And then, during that time, my mother had become the archivist for Highlights, for the family business, and was going through all of the saved artifacts and materials and papers related to the company and the family. And I had always wanted to know my grandmother better. My grandmother is the person I'm named for. I had always known a lot of stories about her, but I asked my mom if she had access to any letters that she might come across in the attics and basements that she was excavating—could I have them? So she started sending them to me. So while I had an essay in the cabinet, I had bins of letters from my grandmother in the basement. And that whole time, anybody who would ask me what I was working on, writing-wise, I'd say, "Well, you know I've got these letters in the basement..." but I never did anything with it. I just couldn't—it was too—everything was too overwhelming. And then what happened for me is that COVID—when the pandemic, you know, 2020, started—became part of our lives. I realized that it was an opportunity for me to pursue an MFA that I had wanted to do for a long time because it was going to be remote. And then I realized I've got time, and I could pull all of this out and see if it was something worth tackling. So that's the story of the decision to write. It was a slow one.Jennie NashWow. Oh, so interesting. And Rossana, well, we heard that you, six months after your brother died, you were in this class trying to learn how to write about it, which, at the time, I didn't quite put together that had been so recent. So when did you decide you were going to write about it? How did you know?Rossana D'AntonioYeah, so, I mean, I didn't set out to write a book. I just started to write. And as you know, as an engineer, I wasn't really trained to be like a memoir writer or writing essays of this type of nature. But I have to give you so much credit, because when I went to your class—and I went out of curiosity to see, well, is anything I'm scribbling down in these journals, is anything really good?—and so your class brought me together with all these other students, and, you know, reading some of the material out loud, all of a sudden, it was a four-day—I don't know if you remember—it was a four-day, one of these four-day intensive classes, and at the end, we're reading our material, and all these strangers are suddenly referring to my brother like they know him, and I recognize that it was because I was somehow relaying his story to them, and I was somehow, maybe through my work or my words, keeping him alive in some way, and that was really transformational for me, because I thought, well, maybe I can do this. And you were very kind. You said that the work was actually pretty good, and then I had some teachers that, you know, added to that. So it started out like, you know, just like playing with words, and then it turned into a grief memoir. That's the… you know, it's evolved greatly. It turned into a grief memoir, which you—I went back to you and you said, “Well, this is great, congratulations, but it's really not marketable, and if you really want to get it out into the world, you're going to have to make some changes.” And so at that point, that's when I decided, all right, I'm going to go ahead and explore. I'm going to go deeper and try to explore the truth about what happened that day. Maybe make it more scientific, more technical; maybe bring in some of the elements that were missing from this memoir. And so along with working with you and working with my editor­— Jodi Fodor—both of you, like within the last few years—I thought I had written it, I thought I was fine, I thought it was done. But then I'd come back to all of you, and you would ask me these probing questions. Perhaps I hadn't developed a scene well enough, or maybe I needed to go deeper. You know, memoir is different than what I was trained to do, and that would send me down this rabbit hole in search of answers to, you know, the questions you were asking, which, by the way, was very annoying because obviously I did not want to come to terms with, you know, the questions that you were asking, because it would, like, get me down into the feeling part of the whole memoir writing. But I did the homework, I came back with answers, and then I realized that memoir is a different animal. And I really felt that your input, your feedback, your questions, your probing, really did make it a lot richer of a story. And even through those seeking answers to the questions that you had brought me to self-discoveries, epiphanies, that perhaps… things that I had bottled up, and that even at the tail end of writing the story, there was still so much more to discover with regards to grief and healing, and which was a lesson to me that I suppose this journey never really ends.Jennie NashOh, I want to defend myself when I said, “This is great, but it's not marketable.” There is such a danger with memoir, particularly memoir around big things, and you both are writing about a big thing, and also particularly around grief, where it's so big in your own head, it takes over your whole mind or life or heart or world, that you assume that everybody else gets it. Right? Like this thing happened, and it's tragic, and in Marty's case, it reverberates through my whole life, and it's so easy to skip over the work of making that story mean something to the reader, and of just sort of resting on the fact that this dramatic thing happened in your family and your life. And there are so many manuscripts like that that when they land on the desk of an agent or the hands of a reader, it's not enough, right? It's not enough. And so that was what I was responding to you. And I know because I got to work with you, and I know from Marty, because I see the result of her finished book, you both did that really hard work, and when I say it's really hard, you just named, Rossana, why it's hard. You have to look at yourself in a way… you know you have to dig in there to things you might not really want to think about. You certainly probably don't want to feel. Do you even want to share them? All of those decisions and choices and ideas. That's what's so hard. And you both put yourself through that process. So I want to ask you each about that—what was it like? So Marty, we'll start with you. In your case, you're digging into these letters, you start then digging into the news, the articles, the pictures, the—you know, all this stuff that your mother never spoke about, and here you're digging, digging, digging. What was that like for you on an emotional level?Marty Ross-DolenAh, it took over my life for a period of time. It was very time-consuming and overwhelming, and nothing about it was easy. I spent a lot of time and tears. I had a tough time sleeping. I did a lot of the work of writing in the middle of the night. In my head, I would wake up in the middle of the night reciting something I had written the day before. It had totally taken over my brain, and fortunately, my mother is very supportive of my work and has been very supportive of the book. And while I was reading the letters—and I read them all, and there are hundreds and hundreds of letters and thousands of pages of them—my mom was available to me to have very long conversations each day through it, because I would want to share something that I read with her, check with her about a story, or she would add and fill in some cracks. And she and I spent a lot of time on the phone crying. We also spent a lot of time laughing, because my grandmother was hilarious, which helped the situation. Her letters were a joy to read. But it really—it's a commitment. It's something that anybody who decides that they're going to take on a project that's going to just sort of open up the wound and create a rawness you're not even familiar with until you're there certainly needs to have established the support system. And I also had my husband, who was incredibly willing to talk about—I mean, he's been talking about this with me and listening for, at this point, for years, but certainly all the time back then, during those days. So it's not pretty, it was hard, but there's nothing about it that doesn't feel like the biggest gift I've ever given myself, because as much as I was trying to avoid it for all those years, there was a reason. I had to do it. I had to go through the process. And also, no question, there's a healing component to writing about something like this, and that reflective writing process, when you do the deep work and try to really dig and let yourself—as Rossana was saying—you know, the annoying stuff that was really like not where you wanted to go, but that is what really changed how it helped me heal in terms of grief, but it really also changed the way I thought about the story and imagined the story, and helped me not look at it through quite as much sadness and even anger, as much as I then was able to look through more of a lens of love at all of it. And I would venture to say that Rossana may have felt that too, because I read her book, and her book is all love. So…Jennie NashYeah, so Rossana, what was that experience of writing like for you?Rossana D'AntonioYeah, well, like Marty said, you know, it was, it did become all-consuming. I became obsessed. For me, though, it was the plane crash, right? The plane crash is the common thread throughout the whole book. And I would venture to say that the crash is a character itself. I like to think of it as the crash is the villain that I battle throughout the story. Everything revolves around it, and it was all-consuming. I analyzed it a million different ways. I deconstructed it. I peeled layer after layer, fact upon fact, trying to get to the core of what truly happened, right? And then I put everything back together, reconstructing it to try to make sense of it all in an effort to find out the truth, with a little bit of fear as to what I may actually find, right? There were no guarantees that I would like what I actually discovered. And as a matter of fact, you know, working with my editor—because I got so ingrained in it, because I got so weedy and geeky and just too technical—you know, she would actually slash dozens of pages, and she said, “I'm not even going to read this because this is not memoir appropriate. You need to do better.” And I think it was at that point where I had that conversation with Jody that the crash evolved from a thing to a character that I could eventually conquer. And like Marty said, there is a healing, and at the end, I actually make peace with this experience. You know, not that I'm all healed, but I make peace with it. There's really nothing I could do. My search was for the truth, and I got the truth, and then I was able to let it go and actually continue to live, because it was so consuming that I wasn't really living until I let it go.Marty Ross-DolenCan I ask, Rossana, do you think that all that writing that you did that got slashed out—do you, because I have writing also that had to be removed—do you feel that that had to be written in order to be removed, in order to get on the other side of it?Rossana D'AntonioOh, that's a good question. I never thought of it that way, but yeah, it could be. I mean, it's part of the quest. It wasn't appropriate for the work that I was working on, but it did highlight facts that I needed to know in order to, like you said, let it go.Marty Ross-DolenYeah, I just think that's interesting, because I have material that didn't end up in the book, but I know I couldn't have written the book if I hadn't written that material. It's just… yeah.Jennie NashSo you both talk about having arrived at a place of peace, or you use the word a “gift to yourself,” Marty. It sounds like during the writing of these books it didn't feel like that… it feels like that now. So why did you keep going when it was so hard? Marty, what would you say to that?Marty Ross-DolenI think because even though it was hard, I was sensing that it was necessary. I was sensing the value of it, and I had just decided that I was committed to it, and I wasn't going to give up. I just had a sense that once I found myself on the other side, I would be in a place that would have made it all worth it.Jennie NashWhat about you, Rossana?Rossana D'AntonioWell, I mean, for me, there are two things. I mean, people who know me know that once I say I'm going to do something, I cannot let it go. So that's one. But the whole purpose of going down this journey was I needed to know what happened. So not knowing what happened was just not an option. I mean, that was the outcome that I was looking for, and there was fear and pain that I knew I was going to take on. But in order to get there, I needed to go through it. So it was just something inevitable. I just knew what I was getting myself into. And I—you know—bring it on.Jennie NashYeah. So I want to ask about the shaping of the stories. You know, there are so many different shapes a story can take. And Rossana, we heard how you started with one type of book, moved into another. You cut this and that. And Marty, you had this incredible amount of primary source material. How did you make a decision? I mean, there are so many questions we could ask here, but I'm going to just focus on the plane crash as part of this discussion. How did you decide where in the story the crash would come—let's call it the scene of the crash—because it appears in very different places in your books, and in some ways, that colors the tone or form or experience for the reader of that book. So, Marty, how did you make that decision? Because the crash comes quite late in your book, where we actually see it. And it struck me when I was reading your book that that was exactly right for your story, because your mother never spoke about it. You didn't know about it. It wasn't a thing you were playing over in your head, and so the not feeling the crash or knowing about the crash was part of the story of it, in a way. So how did you make that decision??Marty Ross-DolenI will say that the essay that I wrote in 2010 that I described as the foundational essay for the book was largely what part five of my book is. So in many ways, I had written the end of the book. That was the first thing I wrote. And then figuring out where to put what was really the largest challenge. And I ultimately started to realize that I knew that I was coming to the book with the goal of not having the book be about my grandparents' death, but having it be about their life, particularly my grandmother's life. And so I wanted to downplay, even though the details of the accident and my discovering it were critical to the story, I wanted to downplay their death, because that's what I was trying to do for myself, because I had grown up my whole life only knowing their death, and that wasn't what I wanted people to know about myself, my mother, or my grandmother. So that was probably the biggest reason that I decided to put it at the end. And then also I put it at the end because I did want to have some buildup. I sensed some value in the reader getting to know the characters well before finding out what actually happened, and I also wanted it to correlate with my own—as you said—my own discovery of the story, which happened later in my life.Jennie NashWell, then there's this—yeah, there's this cool thing that I thought was really cool that happens in your book, which is your grandparents have this magazine, this business, and they make a decision: “Oh, maybe we should see if we could get this in—was it dentist's offices or, you know, doctors' offices waiting rooms?” And then, you know, they're on this plane to try to get it on newsstands. And we know the incredible success that those ideas went on to have in terms of a business. You know, the seeds that they planted bore incredible fruit. And so that part of the story, I thought, was really beautifully handled as well, because we all know what Highlights was and what it became. And then to find out those were their ideas, and then they died. They were not the ones that saw that through. There's something so powerful about that, that their ideas were so strong. They were so prescient. They were, you know, they created this thing that reverberated—there's that word again—through so many people's lives. I thought that was really a beautiful touch to how you placed that plane crash too.Marty Ross-DolenOh, thank you. That's interesting to think of it from that perspective because, in addition to my not wanting the story to be about my grandparents' deaths solely, it was also not meant to be the story of the history of Highlights. It was meant to be who they were. And, you know, it really is more of a focus on my grandmother in relation to the company, but they saved the company. And there were many times in the 1950s when they were struggling to keep it from bankruptcy and the decision—the sort of… actually, it was an epiphany of a salesperson who came up with the idea of selling through doctors' and dentists' offices. But their decision to implement that happened a couple of years before they died, and that's when they actually started to see the company thrive. So they died when the company was thriving, and they were, just as you said, pursuing more. Because the whole Highlights is a mission-driven company. Our whole goal is to have material that will help children become their best selves. So the more children that it touches, the more successful the mission. And so, yes, I mean, it is part of the story as much as maybe I see it as separate. It's just not separate. But making decisions about how much of one thing, you know, is this book supposed to have? I mean, there were people who wanted me to write the history of Highlights more than I did, for sure. There were people who wanted more airplane accident, for sure. And I wanted more of my grandmother, my mother, and me, so…Jennie NashRight.Marty Ross-DolenYeah, it was a balance.Jennie NashRight. Well, you pulled it off beautifully.Marty Ross-DolenThank you.Jennie NashAnd Rossana, in your book, the plane crash literally starts on page one—or even in the title. How did you…? And I feel like it was maybe always that way. Was it always that way? Was that one thing that never changed?Rossana D'AntonioYeah, I was just going to tell you, the book went through a ton of revisions, but the one thing that remained constant was the opening scene, which was the timeline of the 26 seconds that describe touchdown to impact. And I remember reading that in your class early on, and there was a sense of shock from the reception from the other folks in the class, and I knew that that's how I wanted to start the book. I mean, that's the premise that sets everything in motion. So that was the one constant, and I'm pretty proud of that.Jennie NashYeah. I mean, it's really interesting. So we know from the very beginning what happens. And then you circle back to talk about how you learned of the crash, which is a very dramatic story as well. So how did you hold the tension through the rest of the book? When the reader knows what happened, this is not a mystery, then you have to construct the story in such a way to hold the reader—you know, what else are we going to root for or learn or find out? How did you pull that off? Because you did.Rossana D'AntonioWell, the mystery is, you know, what happened? The mystery—I mean, I talk about how the industry had, continues to have, a tendency to blame one individual, which is the pilot, the last person that touches this very complex system that is the aviation industry. And so I kind of made the industry somewhat of a villain. And this quest for me to seek the truth and hopefully to—you know, I suppose the reader wanted me to be right that the industry was somehow to blame. And so that's how I thread the story, in addition to the fact that, you know, there were facts that kind of reinforced my whole premise, right? I mean, the accident report was never—so the accident happened outside of the country. And so here in the United States, the NTSB will always do an investigation and release the report as public information, as a public document. But outside of the country, the accident investigation—although the NTSB and the FAA participated in it—the lead was the Salvadoran Civil Aviation Authority, and they opted not to make that investigation report public. And so to me, that screamed of a conspiracy. So I thread that into the whole story. And, you know, my family gets the report through indirect means, and I'm able to dive into it, and lo and behold, I discover smoking guns in the report that indicate that the industry lied and covered up. And there were conspiracies, which are not—they're not unique to this one accident. And that's the other thing I do in the book, is I bring in parallel accidents here in the United States that reinforce that the industry is a global industry, and that corporate greed is alive and well in this industry as well.Jennie NashYeah, indeed, your book is revelatory that way. And that leads me to a question I want to ask you both, which I'll start with you, Rossana. Given how hard it was to write the story, and to be in it, and to think about it, and how this plane crash dominated your thinking for so long, what do you think about when you step on a plane? Is it hard for you?Rossana D'AntonioWell, there's a little trepidation. Yes, absolutely. Every time I have to fly, there's a thinking in the back of the mind, right? I think I had a conversation with you, Jennie, where we talked about when I crossed the threshold, whether we like it or not, we are relinquishing all sense of control to those people who are flying the plane and to everybody else in the industry who helps support that pilot and co-pilot, and we have to trust that everyone has done their job. And we've discovered with recent incidents that that isn't always true. So, I mean, there are things that I do. I mean, I try to sit in the exit row. From now on, I will be sitting on 11A, you know? And, you know, I do pay attention to the safety message that the flight attendants do before we depart. I think that's a common courtesy. And by the way, you know, a lot of us feel that we're professional flyers, but we've never been tested under the most dire of conditions in an accident, so we just assume we know what to do. But do we really? And hopefully we'll never be, you know, required to put that knowledge into use. I text my husband, “We're leaving now, taking off,” and then when we land, I tell him that we've landed safe and sound, because there's no guarantee, there's no guarantee that we will make it to our destination. I like to believe—you know, we've been conditioned to believe—that flying is the safest mode of travel, and I believe that, I really do. I don't want to dispel that. I don't want to cause fear. But I do also believe that the industry is under tremendous strain. Those two things can be true at the same time. We can't just say, “I'm not going to travel.” That's just not realistic. And so I choose to trust just like my brother trusted the system when he was alive. I choose to trust the system, and we'll leave it at that.Jennie NashI love that. Marty, what about you?Marty Ross-DolenI find, interestingly, I have a lot more anxiety leading up to flying than actually while I'm flying. In the days before, I can't really focus. Part of it is this feeling of needing to get every little thing in order. And it just sort of takes over in my mind. So the thing that I like the least about flying is the days before I actually do it. And then I have a tradition that I insist that anybody flying with me, that I know personally, also take part in, which is that I kiss the plane, kiss my hand, and place it on the outside of the plane. I think that that's super superstitiously protective. And then I actually feel some relief once I'm in my seat that it's going to move forward. And maybe, maybe part of that is that whatever control I've had up to that point, I can let go. But I do, you know, my husband always says it's safer to fly than drive. And I think that that's true. I'm not a great passenger in a car, for sure, but I'm with Rossana. You trust the system, and you have to live, and you can't choose not to travel or not use a mode of transportation. It's just the way our society and lives are. And I guess I feel grateful and fortunate that we have those options. So, yeah.Jennie NashI love that! Kiss the plane. I might start doing that. I cannot recommend both of these books more. They're so beautiful, they're so different. Reading them together would be incredibly powerful if that's something listeners are inclined to do. But just to remind folks, Marty's book is called Always There, Always Gone. Rossana's book is called 26 Seconds. Thank you both for coming on with each other to talk about this unique connection you have to each other and also your individual books. Can you tell folks where they can go to learn more other than the obvious, go-buy-the-book places? Marty, why don't you go first?Marty Ross-DolenSure. Thank you. All of my information—there's a lot to learn through my website, which is martyrossdolen.com. It's M-A-R-T-Y-R-O-S-S-D-O-L-E-N.com, where there's things to learn about Highlights, there's book club questions, there's Q&A's, just lots of things. There are links to things I've done and all places where you can find the book.Jennie NashWe'll link to that in the show notes. It's just a beautiful book about mothers and daughters and grandmothers and history and our place in it, and grief and life and all of it. It's a beautiful read. And Rossana, where can people find your geeky and soulful book about your beautiful brother, Caesar [Captain Cesare D'Antonio], and his love of flying and this tragedy that unfolded and how you made sense of it? Where can they learn more?Rossana D'AntonioYeah, thank you. So my website is rossanadantonio.com—that's R-O-S-S-A-N-A-D-A-N-T-O-N-I-O.com—and you can find all sorts of information there as well.Jennie NashWell, thank you both for talking to me today.Rossana D'AntonioThank you, Jennie. Thank you, Marty.Marty Ross-DolenThank you, Jennie. Thank you, Rossana. It's been a pleasure.Rossana D'AntonioIt's been fun.Jennie NashAnd for our listeners, keep your butt in the chair and your head in the game.NarratorThe Hashtag AmWriting Podcast is produced by Andrew Perella. Our intro music, aptly titled Unemployed Monday, was written and played by Max Cohen. Andrew and Max were paid for their time and their creative output, because everyone deserves to be paid for their work. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit amwriting.substack.com/subscribe

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“To whom much is given, much is required,” Renata Miller shares her love of Detroit from four generations of Detroit love and responsibility. Miller roots her run for City Council District 5 in a lived archive of Legacy Black Detroit: East side summers “by the river,” Conant Gardens pride where her grandfather “laid bricks you can still read in Hamtramck,” and Black Eden pilgrimages to Idlewild. She honors a Mother who's “still a nurse at church at 76” and a Father, a Navy veteran and Detroit Fire captain, who raised her on union halls, service calls, and straight-arrow integrity. Miller is adamant that development must mean jobs and single-family dwellings for kids to have homes with a backyard. It's a conversation that braids Coleman Young era fights to Erma Henderson, JoAnn Watson, and Barbara-Rose lineage, then points forward: block clubs, church basements, and porch-to-porch organizing—“I'm a grassroots advocate; I'll be on the streets.” Detroit is Different is a podcast hosted by Khary Frazier covering people adding to the culture of an American Classic city. Visit www.detroitisdifferent.com to hear, see and experience more of what makes Detroit different. Follow, like, share, and subscribe to the Podcast on iTunes, Google Play, and Sticher. Comment, suggest and connect with the podcast by emailing info@detroitisdifferent.com

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TOM CRUISE CLIMBS THE WORLD'S TALLEST BUILDING!! Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol With Tom Cruise & Co. returning for Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning, Tara & Aaron continue their Impossible Marathon giving their Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, & Spoiler Review!! Start your online business with a $1 per-month trial when you visit https://www.shopify.com/rejects! Visit https://huel.com/rejects to get 15% off your order Join Tara Erickson & Aaron Alexander as they embark on the most daring IMF mission yet in Brad Bird's adrenaline-fuelled 2011 blockbuster, Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol. When a covert assignment goes wrong and the IMF is disavowed, Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise, celebrated for Top Gun: Maverick and Edge of Tomorrow) leads an elite team—including tech genius Benji Dunn (Simon Pegg, known for Shaun of the Dead and Star Trek), field agent Jane Carter (Paula Patton, from Precious and Idlewild), and the resourceful analyst William Brandt (Jeremy Renner, Oscar-winner for The Hurt Locker and star of The Avengers)—to clear their names and stop a global threat. They're joined by Anil Kapoor as IMF liaison Brij Nath (famed for Slumdog Millionaire and 24) and Michael Nyqvist as the chilling villain Kurt Hendricks (sought after for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo), each raising the stakes in this race against time. Our hosts break down every unforgettable sequence—from Ethan's heart-stopping ascent up Dubai's Burj Khalifa and the jaw-dropping Kremlin infiltration to the high-speed sandstorm chase that redefines “impossible.” Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode features a live audience conversation at The Vine Club in Atlanta, GA with Sam Bilbro, the founder and winemaker for Idlewild WInes in California. Sam grew up hanging out in a winery converted from an old cow barn, walking vineyards, and tasting blends with his dad who founded Marietta Cellars. While ultimary continuing the family legacy, Sam definitely took some detours and explored other industries, but it was while he was working in the restaurant industry that he was exposed to wines from across the globe and was especially struck by the wines of Piedmont in italy. Founded in 2012, Sam's creation, Idlewild Wines, focuses on making wines from Italian varities grown in Califonia by sourcing grapes from old vineyard sites across Sonoma and Mendocino. The wines we tasted during this live audience session were so thoughtful, and the wines offer nuanced deliciousness - which you'll hear is a perfectly acceptaable tasting note. You can follow @idlewildwines on Instagram.Recorded April 16, 2025-------------Our presenting sponsor for April is Vinexpo America 2025, a premier international trade event heading to Miami for the first time ever on May 7-8, 2025 at Miami Beach Convention Center. Vinexpo America has long been the go-to destination for industry leaders—and now, its expansion to Miami will offer new opportunities for producers, importers, distributors, and hospitality professionals across North, Central, and South America. From fine wine tastings and cutting-edge spirits to trend-driven panel discussions and unmatched networking opportunities, Vinexpo America is where the business of wine and spirits thrives.⁠REGISTER HERE⁠ - Use code VAMERICA25 to claim your free badge!With 280+ exhibitors from 25 countries and more than 3,000 visitors from 40 countries, Vinexpo America 2025 will be a vital industry event for anyone looking to expand their network and discover the latest trends.

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Join us for an exciting episode of the EmbellishPod as we dive into the world of Black Eden 1912 with founders John and Dr. Wanda Joubert. Discover the rich history and inspiration behind their unique whiskey brand, rooted in the legacy of the historic Black resort community in Idlewild, Michigan. In this episode, we explore: The origins of Black Eden 1912 and its connection to Idlewild, Michigan. The journey of creating a whiskey brand from scratch. The significance of the name "Black Eden" and its historical importance. The flavor profile and unique characteristics of Black Eden 1912 whiskey. The challenges and triumphs of launching a new whiskey brand. Future plans for the brand, including potential partnerships and expansion. Don't miss out on this fascinating conversation that blends history, culture, and the art of whiskey-making. Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:00:31 - Meet John and Dr. Wanda Joubert 00:01:28 - The Inspiration Behind Black Eden 1912 00:03:11 - The Historical Significance of Idlewild, Michigan 00:07:02 - Naming the Brand 00:12:33 - The Process of Creating a Whiskey Brand 00:18:03 - Targeting the Right Customer 00:20:10 - Flavor Profile of Black Eden 1912 00:21:48 - Current Distribution and Future Plans 00:23:53 - Overcoming Challenges in the Whiskey Industry 00:27:17 - Balancing Brand and History 00:30:13 - Entertainment Partnerships and Brand Ambassadors 00:32:22 - Vision for the Future 00:36:24 - The Story Behind the Moscato 00:40:28 - The Annual Comedy Event 00:42:01 - Event Planning and Brand Promotion 00:44:24 - Upcoming Events and Sponsorships 00:47:48 - Final Thoughts and Future Conversations Connect with Us: Website: embellishpod.com Email: embellishpod@gmail.com Instagram: @embellishpod TikTok: @embellishpod Follow Black Eden 1912: Website: iconicspirits.biz Instagram: @blackeden1912 If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review, comment, and don't forget to subscribe for more insightful conversations. Thanks for tuning in!

Pittsburgh's got a lot to lose! If more state funding doesn't come through, PRT announced they'll have to make huge service cuts, like fully shutting down 41 bus routes and ending service after 11 p.m. Plus, the Trump administration's threatening to close Pittsburgh's HUD field office. Executive producer Mallory Falk and producer Sophia Lo discuss the latest. Plus, they explain why there might not be any competitive city council races on the primary ballot, how a special election will determine who controls the PA House, and why Kennywood and Dollywood are (kind of) having a crossover moment. Notes and references from today's show: Information on PRT's proposed service changes [Pittsburgh Regional Transit] What if Pittsburgh's Public Transit Went Away? [City Cast Pittsburgh] Stop Catastrophic Service Cuts [Pittsburghers for Public Transit] Chipped Ham Empanadas, Fancy Spaghetti O's & More Food to Try This Spring [City Cast Pittsburgh] Can Inclusionary Zoning Fix Pittsburgh's Housing Crisis? [City Cast Pittsburgh] Petition challenges mean Pittsburgh could have no contested Council races this spring [WESA] Who's running in Pittsburgh, Allegheny County elections in 2025? [PublicSource] Majority control of Pennsylvania House hinges on special election in steel region near Pittsburgh [AP News] Pittsburgh's HUD Field Office Could Be at Risk [City of Pittsburgh] Kennywood, Sandcastle, Idlewild set to be bought by Dollywood owners [TRIBLive] Learn more about the sponsors of this March 21st episode: Pittsburgh Opera Babbel - Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/CITYCAST Become a member of City Cast Pittsburgh at membership.citycast.fm. Want more Pittsburgh news? Sign up for our daily morning Hey Pittsburgh newsletter. We're also on Instagram @CityCastPgh! Interested in advertising with City Cast? Find more info here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Make room in your wallet for your Real ID and your season passes for our local amusement parks, including Kennywood, Sandcastle, and Idlewild. We're making the case for both — plus how and when to get them — and introducing yinz to Kennywood's new-old mascot, Jeeters. Pittsburgh Regional Transit is using pickle cartoons to shame us for bad behavior on the buses and T stops. The University of Pittsburgh has issued a hiring freeze, and officials say it's not entirely because of changes in federal policy and funding. Pittsburgh technology startups KEF Robotics and Swan are working with Ukraine on drone technology and testing on the front lines against Russia. The National Labor Relations Board is reviewing claims by the United Steelworkers union against U.S. Steel, but it's not clear whether they can make an official ruling. And Pittsburgh's Fringe Fest is coming! We're sharing a bit about its history and how you can get involved. Notes and references from today's show: How Well Do You Know Pittsburgh? Take This Quiz! [Hey Pittsburgh] How to Get Your Real ID in Pittsburgh [City Cast Pittsburgh] REAL ID Document Check [Commonwealth of Pennsylvania] Kennywood's Steel Curtain roller coaster won't be ready for 2025 opening day [WTAE] Kennywood knew Steel Curtain would be closed before asking people to buy season passes: lawsuit [KDKA] Jeeter's Instagram Account [Instagram] Rider Etiquette Pickle Campaign [PRT] America Turns to Ukraine to Build Better Drones [Wall Street Journal] Steelworkers' union accuses U.S. Steel of discouraging workers from speaking out against company sale [KDKA] How Trump's Firings “Paralyze” the NLRB [Mother Jones] The University of Pittsburgh orders a hiring freeze for faculty, staff [WESA] Pitt says hiring freeze not entirely Trump's fault [PublicSource] Pittsburgh Fringe Festival 2025 Shows [Pittsburgh Fringe] Learn more about the sponsors of this March 14th episode: The Frick Pittsburgh Museums and Gardens KESEM Become a member of City Cast Pittsburgh at membership.citycast.fm. Want more Pittsburgh news? Sign up for our daily morning Hey Pittsburgh newsletter. We're also on Instagram @CityCastPgh! Interested in advertising with City Cast? Find more info here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Previously we revisited Idlewild's 2000 breakthrough sophomore album 100 Broken Windows, but for this episode we're going backward to their 1998 debut. The punkier, more aggressive Hope Is Important leans into noisy, almost unpolished intensity, while moments of introspection hint at the more refined songwriting the band would develop on following albums. Frenetic guitars and urgent vocals create a chaotic yet compelling sound, with tracks like "When I Argue I See Shapes" showcase their knack for anthemic hooks. Though it may lack the polish of their later work, Hope Is Important captures Idlewild's youthful spirit and unfiltered passion.   Songs In This Episode Intro - Everyone's Says you're so Fragile 19:58 - You've Lost Your Way 25:54 - I'm Happy to be here Tonight 30:27 - A Film for the Future 34:34 - When I Argue I See Shapes Outro - Paint Nothing   Support the podcast, join the DMO UNION at Patreon. Listen to the episode archive at DigMeOutPodcast.com.

We begin 2025 by going back 23 years to discuss our favourite songs of 2002, including emo classics, motivational hardcore, sparkly piano pop, terrifyingly positive psychedelic religious cults, and THE GREATEST GUITAR RIFF OF ALL TIME.We've each chosen our 10 favourite songs of the year and sent them over to Colin's wife Helen, who put the playlists together and distributed them so we were each given a playlist of the 20 songs from the other two hosts, along with our own 10. We then ranked the playlists in order of preference and sent them back to Helen, who totalled up the points and worked out the order.She also joined us on the episode to read out the countdown, which we found out as we recorded so all reactions are genuine.Now, admittedly, in parts we're a little bit brutal to some of the songs in the list as we're three separate people with differing music tastes, but please remember that to be in this episode at all the songs have to have been in one of our top 10's of that year.Bands featured in this episode include (In alphabetical order, no spoilers here!) - Christina Aguilera ft Redman, Aqualung, Bright Eyes, Vanessa Carlton, Cousteau, The Delgados, The DIllinger Escape Plan Ft Mike Patton, Down, Frou Frou, Hatebreed, Idlewild, Isis, Jay-Z Ft Big Boi, Killer Mike, & Twista, July Skies, Ben Kweller, Avril Lavigne, Malcolm Middleton, Miss Black America, Nada Surf, Nine Inch Nails, Opeth, The Polyphonic Spree, Porcupine Tree, Sonic Youth, theSTART, Sigur Ros, Taking Back Sunday, Tech N9ne, Wilco, and James Yorkston & The AthletesFind all songs in alphabetical order here - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/13AsY6By1DI8knbl7TpMFx?si=cd88b8d2738249feFind our We Dig Music Pollwinners Party playlist (featuring all of the winning songs up until now) here - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/45zfDHo8zm6VqrvoEQSt3z?si=Ivt0oMj6SmitimvumYfFrQIf you want to listen to megalength playlists of all the songs we've individually picked since we started doing best of the year episodes (which need updating but I plan on doing them over the next month or so), you can listen to Colin's here – https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5x3Vy5Jry2IxG9JNOtabRT?si=HhcVKRCtRhWCK1KucyrDdgIan's here - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2H0hnxe6WX50QNQdlfRH5T?si=XmEjnRqISNqDwi30p1uLqAand Tracey's here - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2p3K0n8dKhjHb2nKBSYnKi?si=7a-cyDvSSuugdV1m5md9NwThe playlist of 20 songs from the other two hosts was scored as usual, our favourite song got 20 points, counting down incrementally to our least favourite which got 1 point. The scoring of our own list of 10 is now slightly more complicated in order to give a truer level of points to our own favourites. So rather than them only being able to score as many points as our 10th favourite in the other list, the points in our own list were distributed as follows -1st place - 20 points2nd place - 18 points3rd place – 16 points4th place – 14 points5th place – 12 points6th place – 9 points7th place – 7 points8th place – 5 points9th place – 3 points10th place -1 pointHosts - Ian Clarke, Colin Jackson-Brown & Tracey BGuest starring Helen Jackson-Brown.Playlist compiling/distributing – Helen Jackson-BrownRecorded/Edited/Mixed/Original Music by Colin Jackson-Brown for We Dig PodcastsThanks to Peter Latimer for help with the scoring system.Part of the We Dig Podcasts network along with Free With This Months Issue & Pick A Disc.Bluesky - https://bsky.app/profile/wedigmusic.bsky.socialInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/wedigmusicpcast/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wedigpusicpcast/Find our other episodes & podcasts at www.wedigpodcasts.com 

In this soulful episode of Dem Vinyl Boyz, we dive into The Allman Brothers Band’s sophomore album, Idlewild South, released in 1970. Widely regarded as one of the greatest Southern rock albums of all time, Idlewild South solidified the band’s reputation for blending blues, rock, and jazz into a sound that was entirely their own. Produced by the legendary Tom Dowd, this album features standout tracks like "Midnight Rider," "Revival," and "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed." Each song showcases the band's incredible musicianship, from Duane Allman’s mesmerizing slide guitar to Gregg Allman’s soulful vocals and poetic songwriting. With its mix of emotional ballads and high-energy jams, Idlewild South set the stage for the band’s meteoric rise in the early 70s. Throughout this episode, we’ll explore the stories behind the songs, the creative process during the recording at Capricorn Studios, and the album’s lasting impact on Southern rock and American music. We’ll also discuss how Idlewild South became a crucial stepping stone for the band as they prepared for their iconic live album, At Fillmore East. Join us on Dem Vinyl Boyz as we celebrate Idlewild South, an album that captures the spirit, soul, and sound of The Allman Brothers Band and continues to inspire musicians and fans alike.

She has dedicated her life to her spiritual path, and learning the healing arts and mystical wisdom of many world cultures. She is a holistic energy healer: Reiki Master; Crystal energy healer (certified, International Practitioners of Holistic Medicine); Sound Therapy & Sound Healing practitioner (certified, Complementary Therapists Accredited Association); and shamanic practitioner. Kathy walks the path of an ancient lineage of women frame drummers. An award-winning artist, photographer, and poet, Kathy's fine art photography can be found at her online gallery at KathyHarmonLuber.com, her shop at fineartamerica.com/profiles/kathy-harmon-luber/shop, and on Facebook at facebook.com/Kathy-Harmon-Luber-Suffering-to-Thriving-103160192354485. Kathy's compelling writing and marketing prowess have helped nonprofit organizations advocating the arts, education, and environment, as well as helping foster children and youth, helping homeless youth get off the streets, and empowering people with developmental disabilities. She's an articulate spokesperson, having appeared on CNN, in The New York Times, LA Times, The Washington Post, and more. She has taught at professional conferences, university, high school, and middle school levels. She earned her Graduate degree in Publishing from The George Washington University and BS in Marine Biology from University of NC, Wilmington. This time we get to visit with Kathy Harmon-Luber, a Sound Therapy & Sound Healing practitioner, Reiki Master. In her twenties Kathy was diagnosed with serious autoimmune diseases. Also, she was told that she had the spine of someone in their eighties. Kathy had grown up in Pennsylvania and then moved during her high school years to North Carolina. She will describe how she went to college and obtained a degree in Marine Biology, but after leaving college she went in a slightly different direction and began working for various nonprofit agencies including spending 12 years working for these organizations in Washington D.C.   As Kathy describes, she slowly began looking for ways to help her conditions and learned about and started to work with sound healing. In a sense, much came to a head in 2016 when she experienced a worse than usual ruptured disk in her back and became bed ridden for five years.   The unstoppable Kathy after coming to grips with her situation began to work on becoming aware of her own body and what it would need to heal. Clearly what she did worked as now, as she will tell us, walks two or more miles at a time. She still monitors her body, but that is the real crux of the issue; she is aware of her body and has learned what it needs to stay healthy. She reminds us that we all can be more aware of our physical and mental needs if we will but take the time to gain awareness and insights.   At the end of our time Kathy tells us of a free gift for all. You can find this gift on her website, www.sufferingtothriving.com.       About the Guest:   Kathy is an inspiring, compassionate, and empowering author and wellness guide whose passion is helping people navigate the challenging terrain of the healing journey. With insight and enthusiasm, she opens people's eyes to the potential of becoming more physically, emotionally, and spiritually healthy by offering a toolkit of practical solutions. Her book, “Suffering to Thriving: Your Toolkit for Navigating Your Healing Journey ~ How to Live a More Healthy, Peaceful, Joyful Life,” is full of wisdom gleaned from decades of healing from health crises. Kathy went from suffering to thriving, reversing the progression of asthma, chronic bronchitis, and autoimmune disorders, and recovered (without surgery) from several debilitating, inoperable spinal diseases and disc ruptures which left her bed-ridden for five years. Kathy's passion is helping others find their compass and chart a course for navigating illness, injury, and loss – learning how to not only cope, but to become more resilient, joyful, and thriving.   Photo by Lynne Eodice     Ways to connect with Gail:   https://www.facebook.com/SufferingToThriving https://www.instagram.com/kathyluber/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-harmon-luber-4b38158/     About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset .   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.       Transcription Notes:   Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, thanks for listening. Wherever you happen to be today you are listening to unstoppable mindset. I am your host, Michael hingson, and today we get to chat with Kathy Harmon Luber, who is a Reiki Master, a healer, and she comes by it very honestly. Why do I say that? Because for many years, like others I've had the opportunity to chat with on the podcast, she actually went through some very serious, debilitating and unhealthy issues. But also, like a number of people, as you will see, Cathy is very unstoppable. She went through it, and it is kind of helped shape what she does today and where she is in her life. And I'm going to leave it at that, because I think it'll be a whole lot more fun if you get to hear from her. So Kathy, welcome to unstoppable mindset.   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 02:16 Hi, Michael. I'm so happy to be here with you today.   Michael Hingson ** 02:19 And the other thing about Kathy is we don't live all that far apart from each other, because I live in a town called Victorville, and she lives in Idlewild, and so we're, as I said, I could she's below us, although a little ways away, but I could probably, if I had a really good, strong arm and a well built paper airplane, I could throw a plane that would go into her window and land on her desk, but I think that's going to be a little tough to do under normal conditions, but you never know what'll happen. But I'm really glad that you're here with us. Why don't we start? If we could by you telling us a little bit about kind of the early Kathy growing up and so on. That's always a fun place to start. Yeah,   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 02:59 always a good place to start. Thanks. You know, Michael, I grew up in Pennsylvania, even though we live in California now, I grew up in Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania, in a lovely small town. Our our home was on a property that my dad planted quite a lot of trees. He was a forestry major, so he planted lots of trees. We had this beautiful wooded yard, and I spent a lot of time outdoors and with our with our dog, our colleague, Taffy, and exploring the woods and nature. And so nature has always been such a big part of my, life as a result of that early upbringing, but I was also very, very creative back then and now i i played piano. I got started really young. When I was when I was three years old, my mom started giving me piano lessons because I had just sat down beside her one day and started to play and wanted to play. Then I moved on to flute. So I've, my dad played a lot of classical music, and so I was, I was always very inspired with that, and I also did a lot of art. And so young Kathy was, was was very creative. And I've, I've carried that through my life. It's been something that's given me a lot of strength through adversity. And as I like to say, you know, we all need to find our medicine to get us through life and the challenges that we face and creativity is my medicine, along with nature, is my medicine as well. So yeah, it's a little bit about my early days. So   Michael Hingson ** 04:44 you went to school and all those usual things that us kids did back in the day as it worked. I did. You went to college.   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 04:52 I did. I went   Michael Hingson ** 04:54 to college. Where did you go and what did you do?   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 04:57 Okay, well, interesting. I. We moved when I was 14 from this idyllic life in Pennsylvania to North Carolina. My dad got a great job offer in Charlotte, and he moved our family there. So I went to high school there for a couple of years, and then I went to college. He wanted me to stay in state, and so I went to University of North Carolina at Wilmington on the coast. I majored in marine biology. My dad did not want me to major in the creative arts. He was adamant about it. He wanted me to be a business major. And, you know, I subsequently have had a lot of experience in in business, but I I also just had this, you know, this, this love for nature that was, that was kindled in my my childhood. We also took trips to the beach once we moved to North Carolina, and so I, I decided to be a marine biology major. You know, I was very inspired by Rachel Carson and her, her books and, and other writings and and so that is, is what I majored in, and loved it. I used to, you know, snorkel and scuba dive and all of that, and just found the ocean to be another home. Yeah, cool.   Michael Hingson ** 06:17 So you went in and got a degree in marine biology, but what did you then do with it?   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 06:24 Yeah, isn't that interesting? Yeah. So   Michael Hingson ** 06:27 I, I know the feeling well.   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 06:32 So I moved with my soon to be now ex husband to to Washington, DC, after college, and I just had the fire in the belly to to work with advocacy organizations that make the world a better place. And that's been my entire career, prior to to career change into sound healing, and the the other healing arts and Reiki and all of that, which we'll talk about. But, but, yeah, I I was very inspired by my grandfather, who, you know, he was one of those people who was always volunteering, always making a difference in the world. Believed that we could make a difference no matter what was going on in the world and in the power of every person to make that difference. And so I was really inspired by that. And so I went to work in nonprofit organizations, and I worked in environmental organizations. I worked with a couple of organizations that that worked at the grassroots level to empower environmental organizations to to, you know, fight a lot of the big battles with with corporate polluters and super fun sites and things of that nature. I went on to work with a lot of of different, varied nonprofit organizations over the years, including when, when I was in DC, the Smithsonian Norman Lear's People for the American Way, a constitutional rights organization. So, so I've had a lot of varied experience in in the nonprofit world, but it was working. You know, in environmental causes that really lit me up. And later, you know, moving to California as a consultant, I also work for environmental organizations. So it's, it's been a passion of mine, yeah, so it   Michael Hingson ** 08:35 sounds though, like marine biology, in a sense, had a little bit of an influence. Did you find that there were ways and places where you were able to use some of that knowledge or some of the experience you gained along the way with marine biology? Yeah,   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 08:49 for sure, within the environmental work that I did, I did fundraising and grant writing, and certainly the marine biology, you know, I took ecology classes and animal physiology classes and all kinds of things that weren't specifically marine biology related, but biology and nature related. So so that well rounded education has served me very, very well over the years. And I might also say that at the time that we moved to DC and I went to work in these environmental nonprofits, I really wanted to get an advanced degree in marine biology. There were hiring freezes in the government. They were doing a lot of the hiring of young Marine Biology majors. And so I kind of hit a roadblock there, which required me to pivot a little bit. And that's kind of been the story of my career. As I've gone through many different kinds of nonprofits. You know, as opportunities opened that that seemed interesting to me and and worthwhile causes, I have had these pivots into slight. The, you know, different fields and away from the marine biology, but it to the state, you know, I've still done, like, a lot of snorkeling, and put that information to use as well. So it's been both professionally as well as in my personal life. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 10:17 well, so you, you were in DC for how long? 12 years, wow. And then, what did you do? Then   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 10:26 I had a great opportunity. I I worked. The last job I had in in DC was working with the Democratic National Campaign Committee to to raise what was then, like a record breaking amount of money, and I was offered a job doing some some consulting in LA, and I, I, I really love DC. I have so many great memories and lots of friends still to this day, but I had the opportunity in working in DC to travel to California a lot, and I loved it here. And so when that job opportunity came, I decided to move to California. I've worked with a lot of different varied I got out of politics at that point and into other kinds of nonprofits that make the world a better place. And that includes, you know, the arts, Health and Human Services, helping traumatized children mental health issues. So quite a lot of of organizations that that help people. Yeah, so what did you   Michael Hingson ** 11:44 What did your father think about you going into all this nonprofit work, even though he wanted you to get and you got your degree in marine biology, or did he approve?   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 11:56 Uh, you know, he wasn't crazy about it, I have to say, because he didn't feel that that nonprofits are business, because people think, if you work for a nonprofit, there's no money, there's no profit, and in in the the strict sense of the word nonprofit, nonprofits cannot make profit that is then shared with board members and stakeholders and all of that. But you know, many nonprofit organizations raise millions upon millions of dollars to put into their work. It's just that they have a a mandate from the government to spend it on the programs, on the on the programmatic work. So he wasn't crazy about that, but by that point, he realized his daughter was going to do what she wanted to do in life, and I've never looked back. It has been deeply fulfilling, and I do feel like a lot of nonprofit organizations are real change makers in the world, right? And so, so so it's been deeply fulfilling to me at that level. And you know, the the fundraising part I kind of fell into when I was in DC, people took me under their wings and taught me how to fundraise and and I became development director and VP of development and advancement and all those things, and that's what powers the nonprofit work. So, so I always felt really good about that, yeah. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 13:27 the reality is, of course, that people who really are committed to their nonprofit work into whatever nonprofit organization they are a part of will tell you that it's all about trying to make a difference in the world. It's all about trying to improve the world, whether they specifically are the ones to make a difference, they want to be part of the process that will make the world a better place. And they they do recognize there is money, but they also recognize that the more important thing are maybe the tangibles and possibly the intangibles that go along with making a real difference, right?   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 14:11 Exactly? And it's such a wonderful opportunity to you know, in the in the fundraising part, you know, money comes from individuals, it comes from private foundations, and it also comes from corporate philanthropy. So it was an opportunity to work in partnership with corporations to also make good things happen. Yeah, did   Michael Hingson ** 14:31 all of your work, both in marine biology and just the things that your your dad wanted you to do, in terms of business and so on. Did all of that experience and the terminology that you got to learn, did all that help you? Yes,   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 14:47 absolutely. You know, it's been fascinating to me, Michael, how at every step along my career path, how I've been able to take what I've learned in Marie. In biology in and just, you know, nature studies in general as part of that, getting that degree, not strictly marine environment, but, but, but you know, the natural environment in general, and and everything I've learned in working in nonprofits and in fundraising and all of my varied interests, like even in the arts, I've worked as a as a development consultant with lots of arts organizations, so I've been able to sort of marry all of These what seem like disparate skills and bring them into almost every job I've well, not almost every job I've ever had. So that part has been fascinating to see how interconnected all of those things have been in making it a rich experience and making it a career. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 16:01 well, along the way, your life changed because of some some physical things that happened to you. Why tell us a little bit about that? Because I know that that leads to a lot of the choices that you've made since, and a lot of the things that you've learned   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 16:15 absolutely, you know, I think it's like so many of us in life, disruptions can happen in our lives that set us on a different course or or maybe just we course correct a little bit, or maybe it's dramatic, and in my life, it's been just a little bit of both. I when I was in my 20s, I was diagnosed with autoimmune diseases and severe hereditary spinal diseases. I was always really interested in pursuing complementary medicine, right along with Western medicine, both have helped me enormously, and I was doing just great. I had doctors when I was in my 20s tell me I had the spine of an 80 year old at that point, and that I also would probably end up in a wheelchair by my mid 30s. And I'm thrilled to say that, that I am, that I am not currently, and I'm I'm many   17:12 decades older. I was gonna say you're a lot older than in your 30s. Yes, I am. And so   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 17:17 I've been able to to, to really find a healing path that has helped me to really thrive physically. So that was one part of it, but then I was doing just great. You know, I had had some minor setbacks over the years, especially with my spine disc ruptures and things of that nature that would take, you know, two or three months of being down for the count, and then I'm back, you know, strong and right back at my very, very active life. I've always been, you know, I when I was younger, I was a runner. I've always been a hiker. I love to swim, like, like, an hour at a time, at the at the pool, you know, not just playful swimming, but but serious swimming. And, you know, I played a lot of high impact sports and things, from basketball when I was young to tennis and volleyball and all the things so super active life, and I managed until 2016 when I had, I had gone to visit a client. It was an overnight trip, and it involved several hours in a car each way, and all year long. In 2016 it was a very, very big year. We had had, I had, you know, traveled internationally, my husband and I did a drive all the way up the coast to from Southern California to Oregon. You know, I was serving on three boards of directors. Yes, I was still working more than full time. I had quite a lot going on in my life, and I was getting these subtle, intuitive hits that I really needed to rest my back more. It was very, very painful. And I, I, I practice good self care, you know, I'd rest for a while, and then I'd be right back to my really busy life, right? So the day after this, this trip to the client, I was very excited. I'm standing in the kitchen, telling my husband, as the coffee is brewing, all about the trip, and I get this extraordinarily severe like I've had never had before in my back to the point that I barely made it to the bedroom without falling he had to help me, and I'd had ruptured discs before. This was really different in terms of the intensity of the pain. If the others were a 10, this was like a 20, and I could not move. Once I got laying down flat on my back in bed, I could not move at all, like without just incredible searing pain. And I thought, well. Well, here we are. It's going to take another couple months, maybe three, for this to, you know, resolve. I know I have to really be down for the count now and really rest and you know. So I started just making changes, you know, I knew I had to resign some boards temporarily, I thought. And I talked with doctors and all of that. And come to, you know, fast forward, I was bedridden like that for five years, five years. I wasn't prepared for that, you know, I really thought it was going to be a more or less speedy recovery and and it wasn't like other recoveries, where I could even prop myself up in bed and work from my laptop. I was completely down for the count. Um, it was inoperable. Doctors said it could take anywhere from six months to three years to heal. Maybe you'll be better, and maybe you won't. So I went through that those moments of it may be always like this. It may not get better. I mean, one, one neurosurgeon said you, you may not be able to ever really walk much again. And in the early years of that, I couldn't walk to the bedroom door. So, you know, it was, it was that was depressing. It was, you know, you go down the downward spiral of feelings like and asking all the wrong questions. You know, I was in that place of asking, Why me? Why did this happen to me. You know? What? What Will it always be this way? What if it's never better? What if? What if I am completely reliant on my husband and friends for the rest of my life? You go to that place. It's human nature. And we can't beat ourselves up when these kinds of things happen, and we we tend to, you know, either blame ourselves or go down the dark rabbit hole. But the important thing, as you have talked about so much, and that you and I both know, is that when great challenges happen in our lives, just like when they don't, but magnified when they do. Every moment is a choice. And I realized one day that, you know, I could prop my laptop on my stomach and look for inspiring quotes. And one day I got up, woke up, and I thought, that's what I'm going to do this morning. I'm in a bad place. I started looking for inspiring quotes of people who went through bad stuff, who got through it. And I realized in that moment, it was like a lightning bolt. Every moment I have a choice, I could I could go and just forever live in that dark place, or I can try to find hope and a new purpose in my life. I could choose to be a bitter old, unhappy woman one day. Or I could take a different path, and I start thinking, Well, how would I take that different path? Here I am lying in bed. I can't do anything for myself. What can I do? I began looking at it from the standpoint of not disability, but ability. What is my ability? What can I do? And I actually, with my computer, made a list of everything I couldn't do right? I couldn't I couldn't go for walks. I couldn't swim. I couldn't walk to the kitchen at that point, you know, like I said, I couldn't even get to the bedroom door. I could no longer ride horses, which, which was something I love to do. I, up until that point, had been playing classical flute in our town at least once or twice a weekend. Professionally, I could not even lift up my flute because it twisted my back in a way that was just completely unbearable. So in one column, I made that list of everything, and I said, you know, I can't be on boards of directors anymore, because at that point, you know, that was 2016 2017 we weren't using zoom and other platforms to connect virtually, as we began to do during the pandemic. And so So I made a list of the things that had to go What did I have to completely get rid of? I resigned boards. I cut back on client writing work. And then I looked at all the things I love to do, my flute playing, my art, my photography, and I said, All right, what is a work around here? I can't I can't ride horses. I can sketch horses. I love to sketch. So maybe I'll just lean into that. Something I never did before, that I wasn't sketching or painting horses. I couldn't stand at my easel, but I could. I could sketch. I couldn't play my classical flute. I could play my Native American flute because it didn't twist my spine. I had, you know, Tibetan and Crystal singing bowls, which, which I loved. I had gotten into sound healing years, decade, a couple of decades ago now, for anxiety and relaxation from stress, right? And, and I thought, well, there's something I can do. I'll have my husband bring those things to me, and I'll, I'll do those things. And, what I'm saying is I found new and different things that lit me up, that that gave me joy. And there's a very good reason for doing this first. First what got me to that point unbeknownst to the reason why it's important, which I'll get to in a second. But the what got me to that point, is asking the right questions instead of poor me. Why did this happen to me? It was what if this is an opportunity for me to turn inward more? I've always been a very spiritual person, not necessarily in a religious way, but, but, but spiritual. What if this is an opportunity for me to really lean into that? What if it's an opportunity for me to learn new things and get certified in sound healing and become a Reiki Master? Uh, what if it's an opportunity for me to find a new path in life. What if this is a portal to something new and different, a new and different life purpose? And when I was telling you about all the nonprofit work I did and still do that, I thought that was my ultimate life purpose and and because of of of this massive health challenge, on this healing journey, I've discovered there's more to it than that, sound, healing, energy, healing, um, all of that is, is part of my new   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 27:17 um, expanded Life Purpose, and what I the gifts that I bring to the world. So, so what I'm saying is, you know, when we look at it as our healing journey, as embedded in our life's journey, of course, if we live long enough, we're all going to face health challenges, be they physical, mental, emotional, even spiritual, right? So our healing journey embedded in our life's journey, embedded in our soul's journey, or what we came here to do in the world. And so healing journey becomes a portal. The reason why this is so important, I just finished Michael reading a really fabulous book by a doctor, Dr Jeffrey rediger, I believe his name is. It's called cured, and it is about the medical science behind people who have really rather miraculous feelings. They don't. They don't just the cancers don't go into remission, only they are cured of cancer. He's been following some of these people for decades, and he decided, from from the medical perspective, why do some people have amazing healings and others don't? And many of these people were given two months to live from their particular cancer or other diseases, and decades later, they're still alive and they're thriving. Why is that? And it seems the common denominator throughout his book is not owning the label of your disease as the be all and end all. In other words, I am not my spinal diseases. I am not my autoimmune diseases. I have a purpose in life, and then finding that purpose, living that purpose, living an intentional life that brings you great joy. He told the story of a woman who had two months to live from an extremely aggressive pancreatic cancer, one of the worst cancers, and she spent the weekend with her, with her girlfriends. They went to the beach. They all you know, gave her lots of love and encouragement for what she thought was the final couple of months of her life. Then she decided I am not my cancer, and I am going to just live every day of my life, however short it remains. I'm going to live it full of joy, full of passion. And full of love, and that's what she did. Fast forward over a decade, like close to 15 years later, she ends up in the hospital, same hospital that that, that you know, did all the the testing for the pancreatic cancer and she had appendicitis. She saw the doctors, and they looked at her chart and said, We didn't think you were alive, right? She was. She only had two months to live here. She is nearly 15 years later, alive, and then she began working with the doctor who wrote this book to even explore further why she's still alive. Turns out, living a life of purpose and full of love and support, following your passions is is for many people, what helps them to transcend and have these rather, rather amazing feelings. And so I have, I have been, I was doing that then without knowing that I only read the book a couple months ago. So it's a relatively new, new book out. I, I, I began just sort of following that, and now I'm leaning into it even more, as you can imagine, knowing that's kind of a recipe for thriving, right,   Michael Hingson ** 31:23 right? And well, and I think it's, it's been known in some quarters for quite a while that your mental attitude and your perceptions can dramatically and can totally, I think, actually control how you are, how healthy you are, and so on. Disease is a is really dis ease, but it is as much, if not more, in most cases, mental, than anything else. That doesn't mean that some people aren't going to get a broken arm or something like that, or in your case, you had some very bad back problems. But it also doesn't mean that your mind doesn't have the ability to help you move beyond that, which is what you did   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 32:15 exactly. And you know, in my book, I I dedicate a lot of my book suffering to thriving, to this concept of suffering is a choice, unnecessary suffering. Okay, I'm not, I want to say right up front, I'm not talking about people who are in war torn countries or or in countries where there are terrible, you know, injustices to people. That's a different kind of suffering. I'm talking about the kind of suffering that is in our mind, that we perpetuate with our minds. Suffering is a choice. Unnecessary suffering is a choice. Thriving is a choice. And I write a lot about this in my book, about how we need to make our mind our medicine. And that's not false positivity. You know? It's about training your mind not to go down the negative rabbit hole of the terrible questions of perseverating about all the bad things that can happen. Because, look, life is complicated in our world, bad things happen every day. It's important to find a place within us, that place of stillness where we can live in the moment. And when we sit here like I'm sitting here right now with you, this is a beautiful moment. There are lots of terrible things going on in the world. There are lots of terrible things happening to our planet environmentally. And we can choose to find moments of peace in our lives, that peace, that stillness within that is healing and so, so harnessing the power of that in our lives, every day, every moment, is a choice. We can do something healing or not, and and you and I have talked about this before. You know the Buddhist nun Pema Chodron, who I'm a big fan of, because she is just so plain, speaking about the challenges of daily life. And you know, how do we how do we thrive through, through what's going on in our in our world, even she talks about every moment is a choice between fear versus love. What would fear decide? Fear? Fear goes down that rabbit hole and doesn't come out and just lives in that dark place and we feel sorry for ourselves. It's human to do that. It's human nature to do that in to some degree. But what would love do if we're being loving towards ourselves and the people we're in community with, right people in our lives who we love, I will decide   Michael Hingson ** 34:50 right I would submit that fear isn't necessarily a rabbit hole that we have to go down. That is to say fear is in part physiological and in part mental. That's right, but, but fear is also something where, again, like with most things, we have the choice of how to deal with it. And you know, we've talked about my new book, and I've talked about it here on the podcast, live like a guide dog, which is all about discussing the idea of learning to control fear. Fear can be a very powerful tool in our arsenals. It doesn't necessarily need to be something that overwhelms us, or, as I put it blinds us. The reality is that fear is something that if we learn to use it properly, can make us more aware, more perceptive. It can help our visualizations, and that's what we need to deal with. You said it in a very interesting way a few moments ago, when you talked about living in the moment. The problem with fear is that what we usually learn on this earth, many of us anyway, is that we have to what if everything? What if this happens? Oh, my God, that's horrible. What if that happens? And as several people have written over the years, the problem with most all of our fears is they never come to pass, but we spend so much time dwelling on them that we don't look at what caused them, where they come from, and what good is it going to do for us to continue to dwell on things when all we're doing is making stuff up as we go, but rather to say, Okay, I'm aware of this, and when you go back and study it, ah, that's What caused me to think that way? Okay, I understand that now, and I'm aware of that, and I don't need to worry about that, because I recognize that's just a myth that I'm trying to create when I don't need to do it. Oh,   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 37:16 I love that so much. Michael, that's exactly it. Exactly it. You know, fear, like you said, is it is a an important, an important feeling, because as human beings, you know, think of our, think of our long ago ancestors and and saber tooth tigers like you couldn't be curious about that big cat. You had to be fearful of it, or you could lose your life, right? The problem is today, we're not being chased by by crazy wild animals. Most of us, and we are, we're, we're, we're fearful of things that happen in everyday life, to the point that a lot of people just have this running emotion of fear all the time, what I have found, and I've read a lot about this, and I'm very excited to read your book and learn even more about it from you. I think it's really important to face our fears and to be curious about them. For example, you know, I would be very, very fearful about about certain things. And when I really sat down and faced them and said, What is behind this fear, and then what's behind that?   Michael Hingson ** 38:29 Well, let's go back to the saber tooth. Let's go back to the saber tooth tiger a minute. Um, were we just afraid of the cat, or did we observe and learn and become respectful of it and gave it its space while it may not have cared about our space so much, but we we learned to recognize it and to respect it more than to fear it. Because the problem with fear as such when we let it run rampant, is that we lose our ability to put things in perspective. And I expect that those cave people realized I don't want to tangle with this cat, because now that doesn't mean that there wasn't a level of fear, but again, fear used in the right way leads to better awareness, better observation, being aware of when that cat's around, looking for it, learning more about how to recognize when the cat's there, so that you can avoid it, which doesn't mean that you're not afraid of it, in a sense, but more you're aware of it, and you learn to respect and deal with it. Yeah. On the other hand, I wonder if there are any cave people that ever got to make friends with the saber tooth tiger. You never know.   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 39:48 We never know. Yeah, it could well be. But in regular, you know everyday life now, like often, we'll be afraid, and I can remember this very well in the first couple of years of being. Bedridden. I was afraid of my spine. I was afraid my spine was going to get worse. I was afraid that if I started walking, I might make it worse. And then I sat down one day and I thought, I can't live in fear of my own body. You know, our bodies are so wise. They everything pain, allergies, lives, anxiety, it all tells us something. It's a teacher. And so is fear. Like in the case of a saber tooth tiger, you know it's it teaches us something. So if we can approach fear from the perspective of, okay, why am I afraid of again years ago, walking for fear that my spine would collapse further. Why am i i turning this into a fear of my own body, and then I would be okay? Well, if it happens again, I'm afraid that I'm really going to be a burden on my family. And you go down, you know, that line of inquiry, okay, well, what's behind that, and what's behind that, and that, and, and is that a worthwhile fear to live your life? There you go. And I came to the point where it's like, uh, no, I have to take calculated risks. I'm not going to do anything crazy, but, but let's set small goals for myself and and sure enough, you know now I'm, I'm walking, I'm, I'm I'm able to walk. I'm able to walk a couple of miles, but it began with those baby steps that were full of fear. We have to face that and dig underneath it and and I like anything you know, when you confront it, it takes a lot of the scariness out of it. Actually, can just face the fear, right? Absolutely.   Michael Hingson ** 41:50 What is it that eventually happened to you or because of you, that healed essentially, as much as possible that your spine so that you are able to walk and so on. Now,   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 42:06 yeah, that's a great question. I would love to say it was one thing, but like most things in life, it wasn't. I was. I was doing quite a lot of things. I was I was doing a lot of visualization of walking, I was doing a lot of visualization of going about my regular life. There was a time I couldn't stand in the kitchen and make dinner. I visualized standing in the kitchen and making a cup of coffee, a cup of tea, a dinner. And so I did a lot of work in my mind to and this comes from athletes. You know, elite athletes use visualization to win their games or to win their gold medal, right? So I learned a lot from that. Right visualization really helped. I really did a deep dive of research into supplements that help the body to fight inflammation. I was, you know, my whole life I have, I have been either vegetarian or pescetarian, you know, eating fish and shellfish. I I began to introduce things like, like, like chicken into my diet at one point when I recognized the need for more protein. But it's about listening to your body and what it needs in order to heal, supplementation, Ayurvedic medicine. I saw a naturopath. I just began to explore every single thing. Then after about three years, I was cleared to go to physical therapy. Physical therapy has saved me so many times. You know, from sports injuries. I've had torn menisci in my knees, and, you know, doctors would say, I think you're going to need surgery. And physical therapy helped so much that I've avoided that surgery my entire life. So so when the doctor said it was inoperable because of the way the disc ruptured and glommed onto the sciatic nerve and other disease, spinal disease, problems that were hereditary, they could not operate. I began to look at everything else. I began to look at things like magnet therapy, just Reiki healing energy Reiki is energy healing, sound healing. I had been doing music and sound I had been going to sound baths, mostly for stress, relaxation, mindfulness, all the all the good stuff. But then I began to realize that that sound healing is so much more powerful than even that. I got certified as a sound healer and began just expanding my repertoire of sound healing and energy healing work. And now I mean this, this, this, I think you find fascinating. You know, doctors are incorporating. Sound healing and Reiki energy medicine into their hospitals across the United States and Europe, into hospitals departments of integrative therapies. And last year, when my mom was in the hospital for cancer, that that that major hospital in Charlotte, North Carolina, had a department of integrative therapy that worked with the hospital and with hospice to to help people. The science behind it is is being proven by by major major universities all over the country. There's some fascinating work coming out of UCLA here in California, by a researcher who works with medical doctors. The researcher's name is James jimzewski, and he, in collaboration with doctors, have found that the different types of cells in the body, the heart cells, the brain cells, they have their own frequency of hertz, which is simply the measure of vibration of sound. They each have their their own unique vibration. And when cells, if they look in a petri dish of heart cells, to become atrophied or brain cells, they realize that those atrophied cells can be brought back to their normal cellular function by applying those frequencies to the cells so sound reinvigorates them. It holds great promise for the future of medicine. And lots of medical doctors are writing about this. There's a well known oncologist by the name of Dr Mitchell Gaynor, who wrote a wonderful book called The Power of sound healing. And he uses sound therapy himself. He conducts a sound bath for his cancer patients. He believes in it that much right along in compliment with Western medicine, of course, and so I that was one of the things. I really, really, I got certified in sound healing, like I said, I became a Reiki Master, and I began applying those things in my own life when I began doing the sound treatments, in other words, when I was better enough to be out of my completely bedridden state, about three, four years in, I got a gong, and the gong has the widest range, the lowest lows, the highest highs that we can't hear. Many dogs and other animals can hear these sounds, but human ears cannot detect them, but our sound, our cells at the cellular level, pick up on that sound, and I began noticing I'd have really accelerated healing again. It's now been, you know, it's now been, uh, going on. It's been, uh, you know, over seven years, going on eight years that that all of this has been has been healing, but over time, I believe everything is incremental. It's like anything in life. Everything is incremental. You can't go to the gym and lift weights once and have a fit body. You know, you got to keep at it. So applying all of these things. Over the years, I have noticed big changes. So again, to answer your question, it wasn't just one thing. It was a lot of complimentary therapies put together, and then what I call in the book, stick with itness. You know, sticking with it, not just trying it for a short time, really, really incorporating it into my daily self care regimen, right? That's what has made the difference for sure.   Michael Hingson ** 48:49 So here's a question, little bit of a quick question, but you talk about thriving a lot, if you were to and you've talked about unstoppable thriving, how would you distill or what would you say are three major points that lead to being able to be an unstoppable thriver, if you will?   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 49:06 Oh, I love this question so much. Michael, okay, so my book is a toolkit of, like, 36 tools that get us to answer this question. But I'm going to give you my top three, and I think the very first one is, is really deep self care and self compassion. When things like this happen, we tend to think, Okay, I'll take better care of myself. I'll eat right, or I will exercise more, whatever it happens to be in your own situation, there is something called robust self care and robust self compassion that's really about giving your body everything it needs to heal. If you need to sleep 12 hours a night, that's what you've got to do. And and we all say, Oh, I don't have time for that. You know, I got a busy life. I've got a. These other responsibilities and commitments. I don't have time for that, but that's what your body often needs, is that level of of really deep self care and and when things happen to us again, physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritual, dark, Night of the Soul, whatever it happens to be, we tend to think of our bodies and ourselves as betraying us, as being the enemy. I hear my clients say this all the time, and there was a point early on when I was like that. It's like my body has betrayed me. How could this happen? I'm young, I've I'm active, you know, I'm doing all the right stuff. From every standpoint, doctors would say you're doing everything exactly right, and yet I had all this stuff going on. We think our bodies betrayed us, but our bodies and this is a wonderful book by Dr Gabor Mate, who writes, When the body says no, our bodies are sending us loving signals of pain. They're telling us when we need to stop doing stuff or cut back or rest. You know, allergies, anxiety, pick, pick anything you know, arrhythmia, pick anything your body is sending you a signal, we have to say. And this has been hard for me, because recently, I've had some a resurgence of some knee problems, and they were pretty debilitating, and we thought I was going to need knee surgery, you know, that I've been avoiding since I was, like, 14 years old. We thought I was really close to it, and it was really hard to say to my knee, oh my goodness, my beautiful hard working me. You have helped me so much in my life. I'm listening to you and doing deep inquiry. What are you trying to tell me? What am I doing wrong here? Right? I needed more rest. I simply needed more rest. I'm thrilled to say that problem over a few months, and with physical therapy and with doing all the right things, I'm back to walking again. I'm walking as much as I did before. So, so it's about, you know, at one point last year, when my mom had multiple myeloma and was in hospital and then hospice, and incredibly stressful time, I started having arrhythmia. I've never had arrhythmia before. I had to, you know, practice what I've been saying in my book and take a deeper dive and say my wonderful, hard working heart. What is up? Why is this happening to me? Right? So, so it's that is, that is self care and self compassion. So that's that's one big piece, and to be able to get into that dialog with ourselves in our very busy, highly interrupted, device driven world, it's hard to slow down and listen. But that brings me to my second point, and that is really listening to what I call our inner healer. Our inner healer is our intuition. It is our gut instinct, if you will, our bodies. And we knew this when we were children, right? We had instincts. We listen to our instincts. If you walk into a room and there's a person and you don't like that person, you don't hang around that person, you try to get away. It could be, you know, a certain food that you didn't like as a kid, you just didn't want to eat it. Right? As we become adults, you know, whether it's societal conditioning or or we have very busy lives, and we just fall into patterns, or whatever. We stop listening so much, and when we get still, hard to find the time, I know, but even 10 minutes of quiet time where we go out in nature, we go for a walk, we just sit quietly in meditation. I've been meditating since my early 20s. I I love meditation. I know. I recognize it's not for everyone. My clients tell me it's not you know for them necessarily. And we find other ways, but, but, but finding something that connects you with yourself, where you can listen to your dreams, where you can listen to your intuition, follow your gut instincts about what feels right for you, if, if something doesn't feel right, don't push yourself to do it and and that is something that I think it can be very, very hard for us in our in our modern age, to slow down enough and do. And I alluded to this the third one earlier, finding our medicine. Nature is medicine, creativity is medicine, as I found sound healing, Reiki, energy, their medicine. What is your medicine to all of our listeners out there? What is your medicine? Do you know what your medicine is? What brings you joy? What makes time fly, where you just don't even realize how much time has has transpired? Those things really, really help us to to find that joyful, happy place where we're in the flow and and, as I mentioned by the book I I referenced cured, that is healing, but also what we what we've been talking about so much, which is your mind is your medicine? How can you harness the power of your mind to heal, whether it's visualizing, telling yourself affirmations, just stopping yourself when you get to the point where you're going down the dark rabbit hole, just saying, Oh, there I go again. Yeah, going to that place. Let me. Let me just stop that and choose something different. Like we said, everything's a choice. Choose something different is making your mind your medicine. Those are my top big three. I mean, the whole the science behind this is, you know, everything in the universe, as Albert Einstein and Tesla Nikola, Tesla told us, and lots of other scientists, everything is energy. Everything vibrates. If everything is energy, our thoughts, our our words, our actions, our feelings, our energy. So choose the good stuff, right? You know, catch yourself when you're when you're, when you're and we look, we all have days, I have them regularly where I find myself getting in a bit of a snarky mood or something, and, you know, things just aren't going quite right, or I'm not feeling quite right, and I go to that bad place, but I quickly say, ah, Kathy, there you go. You're going to that place. What can we choose that would be more positive. That is a choice of energy, and energy is healing? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 57:06 well, we only have a few minutes, but I have a couple of quick questions for you. Hopefully they're quick. You've talked about sound healing and a sound bath, but not everybody can make it to a place to get a sound bath. How can they deal with sound healing at home?   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 57:23 I love that question, and I can make it brief. Okay, so, so we don't necessarily have to go to a sound bath or a yoga studio to get sound healing. Many things in our lives, our voice. We don't need special equipment. We've got a voice. Right coming singing have been found. DR. DR, Jonathan Goldman has been writing about this for decades, the power of the humble hum. It connects our ear to our vagus nerve, the wandering nerve through our bodies that touches all the organs that controls heartbeat, blood pressure, all the things we never think about, coming and singing are hugely stimulating. That's one thing, percussive tapping on our body. I happen to be a drummer, so I tend to drum. Drum is rhythmic. It's the sound of our mother's heartbeat when when we were in the womb and and it it helps us to settle into a place of of coherence. And so those are just two small things that have very, very big benefit. We can just tap on our, on our, on our, our chest bone, or there's a thing called Emotional Freedom tapping EFT, where you tap on different parts of the body. I have written to make this really brief, Michael, I've written an article about sound healing. I also have another article about your mind is your medicine, and another one about the power of intuition. Three articles in yoga magazine, the people can find for free on my website. And we'll, we'll get later. Yeah, so   Michael Hingson ** 59:04 an observation, and then two quick questions. It's, you know, there's an advantage of having lived on the earth a while and having a memory. I remember when the United States started interacting with China during the Nixon administration. And somewhere on the line, we started to hear about this thing called acupuncture that we had never really heard of before, and a lot of people poo pooted and so on. And now it is a much more common mechanism that is used. It was even used on Roselle, my guide dog who was with me in the World Trade Center when she developed some back problems, and it and it helped. But the reality is, just because it isn't something that goes along with the traditional Western medicine approach, and even my doctor at Kaiser will say this, it doesn't mean that it doesn't work. Work and that it is invaluable, because it is and we really need to to look at all options. Having said that, let me ask you this. You said that you have a free gift for anybody listening. Can you tell us about that? I   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 1:00:17 do? I do. Oh, good. Oh, good. Acupuncture, I would just add, it's much like sound healing. You know, it's been around for 1000s of years.   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:26 It's been around a long time. It's just that we haven't had exposure to it,   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 1:00:30 that's right. And acupuncture was one of the things on my when I said I use very many modalities. I did, I've done a lot of acupuncture over decades. So yes, I'm a big believer in acupuncture, part of why it works is because the same as the chakra system in Indian Ayurvedic medicine, right? These are the energy centers of the body, and they can get blocked. So here's the free gift, Michael, I'm thrilled to be able to offer this to to our listeners today at my website, and we'll link the Earl at the at the very top, you can you can access this for free. Dr Charlize Davis, a doctor of functional medicine, and fellow Reiki master and I, have put together a few modules called Healing the heart chakra. And she comes from the medical perspective of saying, when your heart chakra is blocked, what does that turn up with? As in your, in your, in your health, you know, sure, the heart, of course, the lungs, yeah. But shoulders, shoulder issues, all kinds of things. And she goes into this in great detail. And then I come at it from the perspective of what we were just talking about, the chakra, what a blocked heart chakra feels like. What is happening in your life that that would tell you that your heart chakra is is blocked. It's more than just, I don't feel love. I mean, that's a common thing, but there's, it's way more than that. And then the best part of the free gift you'll learn about all of these things. And then the best part, I think, is that I do a sound bath geared toward balancing and opening the heart chakra, and I also give Reiki energy during that. And Dr Charlize, as a as a Reiki Master, also gives Reiki energy throughout the sound bath as well. So it's really powerful.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:26 There's a link to all of that on there's a link to that all on the website.   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 1:02:29 It's at the very top of the website. So tell us   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:33 your tell us what your website is and how people can reach out to you. Because I'm assuming that you you do interact with people all over   Kathy Harmon-Luber ** 1:02:41 I do. I do sound baths. I do individualized sound baths, which target to your very specific issues. So how do people reach out to you? My website is suffering to thriving.com. And there they can. They can reach out to me. They can learn more about my work. They can look at my book, suffering to thriving. They also can connect with all of my social media, and they can access how to work with me and email me from that place as well. So it's all right there at the website, on the home page, at the bottom, there are more podcasts and articles, lots of free article content too, if anyone's interested in exploring this at a deeper level, so suffering   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:25 to thriving.com. Well, that's right, Kathy, I want to thank you for being here and giving us so much information. There's a lot of very invaluable stuff here, and I hope people will listen and have an open mind, because the reality is, the more we explore, the more we learn, and the more we learn, the more we can put into practice, and the more we do, especially for ourselves, the better we'll be. So I want to thank you for being here, and I want to thank all of you for listening today. This has been fun, and I hope that you have found it fun. I'd love to hear from you. I'd love to hear what you think. 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Whips and chains, oh yes Leather collars, harnesses Plush encounters, fur lined walls And neon countertops Painted in gold, Tame, and made silent Kept underground, as always Your secret. What happens in cerulean stays in cerulean I only smile when I see the color yellow and then dream of him, Seeking nothing but solace At the concourse, we converse momentarily And then go our separate ways Forever and always Forever and always Your secrets I smell like dirt And arrived in the real world Covered in blood And scraped over the, Over the knees, Yes I did Come recover then, What you've lost from the world Born in chaos, not quite But almost, as we're once swarmed the waters Lee it better quiet, now Keep it better quiet now, Keep it better quiet now, your secrets There lies no tru loyalty to bands tied On middle fingers Besides to one's own self And they who they shall Desire and claim as another Extention of God, In her Or their arms There is no claim to faith or mercy Than what comes between us, Bombshells As argued in chaos —mother, you're not listening To the call of the wild Then now, How am i bound to that besides being In sanctity Jimmy, what did you do?! I don't know what I did! You lyin bastard. I'm not lying! So, where ya from? —I don't know where I'm from. Listen, I'm gonna need you SHUT UP, JUST SHUT UP. It seems like these scenes are getting shorter. I'm bored with this. Ok. Let's do something else. I fuckin hate you. I hate you. I fuckin hate you. 88. Oh no: 8 Wait, what the— *dolphin* WOAH, okay: Oh, no. No, No, no OHNONO. I told you I'd find him. Anyway. Seems like there's something more important I should be doing. Are you sure this is the right place. Right place. Right time. Fuck— FUCK. What, what happened. I lost my— SKRILLEX! No. SKRILLEX. NO, NO— SKR— I swear to God, Google knows everything. Google don't know shit about SHIT. I gotta lose –m–39 lbs. For what. MADONNA DO IT FOR THE BANANAS. I hate— you. COME ON, MISTER. Fuck off, Madonna, I'M A GOD. I miss Beyoncé. That's not relevant. Beyoncé is relevant to everything. *smacks* QUIT FANGIRLING. Trust me, I hate you. I don't trust you, but I believe you. I got it. I hate this place. Holy shit. What. I developed a new phobia. What's that mean?! I don't know, I can probably use it in a fight or something. For what. SPECIAL ABILITY UNLOCKED. I see you looking over my shoulder I see the shadows, I try not to jump at em. I spent six months in a coffin, you know I spent my life a sarcophagus (Wow, I got it right.) Try not to mutter those haunts in a hospital Try to recover from trauma Uncovered post traumatics, Anxiety attacks and a lot of those— What do you call them? A flashback. Here goes one: SONNY MOORE aka SKRILLEX appears. I told you not to— But I did! I didn't mean to! But you did! This is ludachris! Oh look, it's— Fuck. God dammit. Come on! What's his name!? What's his name?! I'll think abo it it. Are you serious? Another shapeshifter? Yes, I guess welll just have to kill them all, then. I just want to go home. You don't have one. …oh. So here we have. Okay, wait a second. I wasn't faking my symptoms at all, actually. My heart had dropped, and been pounding and fluttering insessantly— It had been a hard week, but especially the last three days; The coughing—. Everyone seemed to be wearing clothing with stars or bears on it, Champion sportswear. I fucking hate champion sportswear. But the palpitations were real as ever— and now— On a Saturday night in the Jamaica, Queens medical center emergency room, There they were again. Only this time I knew exactly why. ‘Too Bizzare' by Skrillex begins to play, via Complications 003- The Trauma Method. Irony. It was ironic, but still startling, Started with some nostalgic traumas, Every other time I saw an ER doctor (Why I don't go) Fuck, I just realized I have to airdrop myself 880 times. That fucking sucks. Did you say you were a doctor? I was, once. When is “once” At some point. Listen, I'm gonna need you to backtrack to get to the bottom of this. I'm innocent, I promise! We caught you at 27 different angles doing this. Oh. [beat] I plead the 5th. Ohh. Cerulean. My favorite. c R A Y On Oh, I get it, I L L U M I N A T U S. Nice, it worked. I know everything about you. So you do. [beat] You're a God. What the fuck do you want from me. Listen. I. Am not. A God, Right. That's exactly what a God would say. No they wouldn't! Because a God wouldn't say anything! AHA. Don't ‘AHA' ME. I don't mind, at all It don't matter— to me I don't mind, at all It don't matter—to me Might as well not think about it The space between us Might as well just stay awake then No sense in leaving Just to come back It don't matter to me, now Now and again I go crazy just making arrangements, But besides that, If you like it, you should have it It's a long road, As Kaskade says, And a short dance, With the right one And time goes by I would call it mild, But actually I'm in a wild panic It might be a heart attack I just might even Die right here But I don't mind, at all It don't matter—to me I don't mind—at all It don't matter to me, I said I don't mind, at all, now It really don't matter to me I said, I don't mind, at all It really don't matter to anyone Now does it (Not it doesn') I don't mind, at all It don't matter— to me I don't mind, at all It don't matter—to me Might as well not think about it The space between us Might as well just stay awake then No sense in leaving Just to come back Palpitations and precipitations at the pulpit Preacher, please don't make me a culprit I been prayin— I been paying my tithes, 10% Even, Now 25, Almost half of me is not mine! Why try? I've been walking out, in straight lines I been crying silently It ain't right I been making most of my nights Sometimes I see sun come up twice Up, down up 10 degrees, It ain't right Up down up 33, it ain't right Up, down, up I've been spending my time Down, up, down Riding round, Trying not to down in my mind Up, down up What is this. It's my project. What is it? The Festival Project. Yeah but—what— What. Is it? …it's my project. *painfully infuriated* Okay, enter here. EXAM ROOM 10 Why exam room 10? Because. Where are the other nine? Just—get in. I'm not going in there! JUST GET IN. UGH. DEADMAU5 (head and all) stands at a tall podium in the center of the room) What is this, This is deadmau5. I know that. —-!!! —?!? What. !!! What? This is the exam? Yes! NO. What is “no”. I'm not playing for deadmau5. That's the exam. Then I fail! Automatic Fail? yes. Automatic fail. Then you win. What. *slams gavel* Congratulations—you're the next superstar DJ. WhY. . What. Woohoo! I just retired! DEADMAU5 exits. … … After a few moments of comic tension, the Deadmau5 head rolls back in through the exit which he has taken. Ugh. Fuck this. No matter what you do, you're a superstar DJ. What. No! Yes. The answer is yes. NO. Fuck. What the FUCK. No matter what you do. You want to go, Go, you want to die, Die, you want to try, try You want to cry, cry Do what you want; As so will I, Demand is demand— Supply is supply. EDX So then, I followed this long hallway under the stage deck. Uh huh. And it led to a door— Uhhuh, where'd the door lead? To a portal. Woah. Pasqualle! You made it! I—yes. Congratulations! *blows party horn* *Daisies/ confetti* You're like 25! I'll be 25 forever. Nice! Yeah. I guess that's why it's called ‘music'—a musician without muses is just useless. ‘Well, whose next?' I wondered. All of my muses were not just so wonderful to me, but adored by many—and perhaps this is what allured me most—beffldled ans confounded me; once my mind was set on somehh th int, there was nothing else its eye could see—and for how long one God could only know, how deep the love would go and that the blood would run deep, and the scars to show for it, only upon my heart and never by soul—for a love was a love, and even once came and gone, to the end of my life I knew I would still ponder upon them, at one time or another, my muses—star studded lovers, rather than crossed, shiny and golden like all diamond and trophies so treasured and thought of as precious. ‘Yes, you are—precious.' Another tongue in cheek thought, for the other that I was, and also was not, as summer drew onward as short as it would come and go—a reminder to leave the apartment more often, and to mind my manners, to find the upper echelon wherever it was and come quietly into its doors, to open my world and wordform of thought, into a place where my heart always was; then, and only then, would I be home. Amongst the men and women of the uppercut and classy, luxurious big fishing ponds and flocks of doves upon olive branches—the peaceful world long parted from where mine was, by only the fault of my own. What had been done just certainly was, and yet, what was to come was an open poem, not of mine, but Godform in thought. ‘I wonder what's at the top of Rockefeller Plaza.' —perhaps, a gander at the bottom of an even larger entertainment complex. Then, again, only God would know what was beyond all that I wanted; a job—and not just any job at all— the one that I had always wanted. Mmm. Birthday cake. Suddenly the taste of a white confetti crème filled my mouth with a delicious remnince of what it might be like to taste a confectionary sugar again—but i couldn't imagine ever making it just on talent and charisma alone—no. Indeed, it seemed something had damaged my charm, and perhaps it was just the swarms and droves of phone controlled masses that saw me as nothing more than dust, I had started to surrender my desire to perform, and the quality of my music—along with my ability to make it, suffered with the awful thing that had been crowding my soul at all—whatever it was, evil and dark in nature, sure saw to it that it wanted to hurt me in all the ways that it could—and in all the ways it could not, I stayed away from most others, favoring my delisuins of love. ‘Nobody seems to understand that the pain they cause will only harm themselves.', I thought Younger souls, however, they were—and they would be kept in the pain that I was in one way or another until eventual death, far behind me on the infinite road to the source. Far enough behind, that it seeker to destroy my progress, and for all that it could, it also couldn't. The infliction of pain would simply not act as a measure for control any longer. Of into my own world, where I was at least free from the thoughts and judgement of others. She's the most beautiful girl, And I'm the most beautiful boy; So naturally, we belong together, don't we? I see a pretty picture, Picket fences and a family Golden Retrievers Someone reliever her; She doesn't believe me TV dreams and exquisite pretty people Burning candles, fire flames and frequent figures, Guest characters and cameos, Repeat offenders, multiple appearances Suddenly, really, it's another need People, people pleasers Audience affection, Tragic endings, Butterflies and new beginnings Gun under my tongue, Rubber like a frog My mind is in a fog Haven't bothered going on a walk To Trader Joe's but The anthem of my youth, A lost soul Another form of my love So what I wonder Put the gun up under my chin Rubber like a frog Blow my head off Just cause I didn't blow up Selfish cunt Big brother, Another hypnotist Little brother, Gotta love him Gotta love em For the Love of God I could stop for a moment Wash my mind out with soap Like I'm ten years younger, even Seriously 20 years between us, You can't even hide underwater In a bathtub Seriously, Someone help us For the love of God, for the love of Hollywood Seriously, Someone love us, For the love of God, For the love of Rockefeller Plaza Someone help us Another possible walk of stars A little shop of horrors Another whole story I get rid of my demons The hoes screamin I put semen in her Permanent like semen, Just keep dreamin I'mma just keep preaching SaMo, Brooklyn Europe Next I keep scheming Whoever you are; If you're a wreck— You need a check No respect, neglect Just cover your neck (I'm blind to my own design, sometimes) That's what the eye is Try this: Close your eyes and say thrice, kids I am the God of the eye, Osiris I am the Gid of the Eye, I'm Osiris I am the God, I walk amongst the highest Thoth, You lost Better just die and keep trying I am the God of the eye, I am (Try this) I am the God of the eye (I never due) I am the God of the eye (That's right, three times) I am the God of the eye No black and white television, In my dimension we pay attention to centrifugal, The mission isn't in materialism, Whatever your spending If money the God,l of your eye, Realize, I am higher My gunfire, Is right on the back of The one dollar I am the God of the eye I Am Your money is nothin to us We come in peace, To end suffering Pretty little nigga Look just like Kendrick Kickin it with jigga I'm the new hits boson Part of me never left Boston (Fuck Starr!) Part of me never left homeless This ain't my home It's my office You never heard this song You don't notice I'm an ugly kid, you don't notice me Rooftop smells like soy sauce On god I am ugly You don't notice -Atari the God Can we get back to this, please? Damn. She really whooped her ass, though. Janet, can I borrow you for a second? No. Please. [Whoopi Holdberg appears in the doorway, gesturing “c'mon”] …alright. I got convictions on my lips, I took a picture Turn the page The worst of all was, it really did seem like they were racists— INSOMNIAC EVENTS Not just racists— the most deadly kind of racists. WHITE SUPREMACISTS You really want it this way, don't you? No! I LOVE you! Oh, do you? If there's a mile in here, I swear to god.. Are you high enough yet? I thought so HIGHER! hire star* What. Just do it. You remember these guys, right? GOOD CANNABIS, FAIRBANKS, ALASKA No. Why are we back here. Alright, we might have fucked up. Why. This guy sucks. HEY. What. COME BACK TO ALASKA never that. WHAT, WHY NOT! GOD HATES FAGS!!! Well, you're wrong! WHITE POWER. Nah. ALL LIVES MATTER O rly? Even this guy? Literally every “NO” …so, all lives. Look, I don't care what color it is; I want that book in my library. GO TO THE LIVRARY. NO. GET IN HERE. NO AUBREY. STAY DEAD. She's dead, right? YOU CALLED ME HERE. I didn't! You Did. I did not, all i said was *swoons* …I love her. (I really do) WHAT?! “I Love you?!” It was more the *swoon* that did it. Disconnect. Fuck, I lost deadmau5 again What'd you do to him? Nothing! Put him back! He's still there! He's right there, you see him? No! This isn't deadmau5. We want deadmau5 bring him BACK. Fuck, I fucked up. What'd you do? …nothing? Pick up the phone Pick up the phone …hello? Who IS this? Fuck it, I quit. Man, God never puts my dishes back in the right place, like ever. I told you, I don't live here, I'm just… Babysitting. CC! What! CC! What? CC WHAT. Fuck, man. That was wild. Where the fuck have you been? I don't know. You don't know—you smell funny. “Funny” is that what that smell is? No. When were you? When? Ha. Did you—- Did I what? —did you go to a party without me? Lmfao fuck these niggaz. Why, what happened. What's this. Where was it?! Idlewild. “IdLeWiLd”?!?!? You. Old. One here and die, you know l It's cattle call for curtain calls guy Where did this go— What was this, once? It's the return Welcome to Oz This is the Tower of Babel Remember; I wrote that Better than the bottom, Still not the top —it's not as fast, when it's not going all the way up Did you jump yet Come around more Keep coughing Are you sure this is where it was or—? Somewhere else I stayed Back when I was homeless It's hopeless! We lost her Antenna, antenna SUPERMARKET I loved her —she was undercover —I'm still in your stirrups I'm lost in New York, then BACKFIRE Adele remix is on have a seat Can I go now? I still need a hat, a half dollar and an alter cloth You could win an award for this; I don't want an award, I just want my son back Motherhood, motherhood Brotherhood, brotherhood This isn't one of us! No one was No one was Can I go now? Where to? Home! Nope, that's just the office, I'm still homeless, unless I They got cabanas on top of offices! (The rich and the famous Networking and brunches— _this looks fun, doesn't it? I altered the course of history In brief exchanges and Various social atrocities This is hypocrisy! lol rly This is hypocrisy!! Hyper awareness and, psychic inclinations… You realize the more low quality people you let in The more low quality this country becomes, don't you? I put a roll in the back of the chosen ones. Used to be cast more, Now something seldom ever happens Such as this— A fun Fortune 500 What does that even mean Forbes. Look it up. What if the policy is Foreign; Look it up. I know enough about the girl next door to know Something is horrible, Something inside of her Rots at the core, Her obsession; My undeservedness of such, What she must, I mustn't, just Unjustice Broski, okay I got to discard All the pichardo Besides just this one (I'm standing on top of you) Put somebody worthy on the fourth floor Worse off, I was done for Before I got to New York What's her for?! I know enough about the man upstairs to know All these glares and “How dare you's” and Hatred says Why would you wait 30 years Until today, I guess Something is certainly off about her. I said yes. It was more probably something like “SUCK MY DICK” What. “YOU HEARD ME” Oh yes, I did. From 1990 to 1993 From 1990 To 1993 From 1990 To 1993 Stop breeding these things, “Love is familiarity” No Love is what you make it But you can't Because of slavery They don't make music —they don't make love either Well, look where your lust took you! Nowhere! Exactly! Look where your love took you: Vegas, Los Angeles, South of the Border Above it a New Yorker— Under budget, Celibate and My arms are too short to jump the turnstyle, Meanwhile My ex husband left permanent scars on My face My lips My arms My hands And my heart. Did you bite him? Of course I bit him, he was strangling me. You definitely won this fight. I know. Look, if I don't call for security, This bitch is gonna make me kill her. OCTOPUSSY NO. What. NO. Stankass. I will KILL this bitch. Look, I gotta get ahead in this. I need a WIN. These are customs. Trash. Wash your pussy. Send her back. Nah, you know what. Remove that hex. Wait, what, really?! Yeah, like; Reverse it. Woah. That's crazy. They got like….white slaves now. That's not right. What do you mean. That's not it. You said “reverse it” This is what the white supremacy just did to everyone else: [world in crisis except for for people who look like Kayla Lauren, to whom EVERYTHING is a fucking crisis, that isn't] BECKY/KAREN/WICKED WITCH OF WHITE AMERICA I AM OFFENDED I'm offended that you signed your like 12 year old daughter up to pose nearly nude, but— Hey look, it's us now; is this freedom?! Uh…. Why are all the female models like 12 and all the male models are fully grown men— Or women. Right. Idk. Wait, I do. You do?! Wait. Something tells me all the pedophiles and all the white supremacists are in the same group… Run the same businesses— Have the same families. This is disgusting Okay, this is gross That's not right ! That's not my job! Oh, it's not!!? NO. Who should I call That guy. So you want this? Oh, it's a death curse?! It will NEVER end. Wanna bet. I'll kill you and take the whole world with me. Now that's a threat. Thing is, I'm actually making it. I'm telling on you! Ok. Wait 30 years though so you look and sound REALLY fucking stupid. Ok. 30 YEARS. Doesn't make sense. What's the statute of limitations for— Hm. Depends. Depends on what. Who are you?! WHO ARE YOU?! NOBODY YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THEN WHY DO I? wtf is this? This is Texas being petty. Ok, fuck ya‘lol YAW. I'm serious, wtf is wrong with you. Something. What. Fix me. Fix you. Hm. Ok. *COUGHING* Somethings wrong here. Yep, it's definitely some kind of FIX IT. Where's this ROCK? At the ROCK. Like, where tho?! Ur gonna need this. What. They r crucifying u. Noted. Hunts Point Food Distribution Cente Lmfao I need this word hold on eliminating redundancies, setting strict timelines, and allowing cases to proceed contemporaneously [ Finally, recognizing the danger that social media poses to young people and mental health, New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Commissioner Dr. Ashwin Vasan today issued a Health Commissioner's Advisory identifying unfettered access to and use of social media as a public health hazard, just as past U.S. surgeons general have done with tobacco and firearms.] A win. I don't play dead. What do you call this: DIE! DIE, BITCH! Corrections. I still don't understand how this— ACID HAPPENS. Out of sight Out of mind So why these guys Tryna waste my time Tryna fuck with my mind with All these lights OH MY GOD I ain't got time for that Well, Maybe I do— I just Don't like NIGGAZ LIKE YOU. (Say what) I don't like Niggaz like U! I'm Sunnï Blū! You're stupid Oh, so he put a curse on sunni blu, too? Ok. Cool. When all my aliases come up This dumb motherfucking drunk Is gonna get stuck In his own woods He'll bury himself In the words that he left With the scars In the words that he left With the scars Sunni blu Is the sayer of stars I slaughtered them all Swallowed them whole Like a big black hole I'm a big black god I'm a big black God Fuck Twinkle that broad One punch girl One punch girl 5 punch faggot I'll unwrap flags on your Goddamn Fuck that Put a curse on my alter ego Lucky he's a he, tho I blow holes in em I blow smoke And love sausage I'm a hedon And he not a Hero He broke He lost I'm open Shirts vs skins I got 666 Curses to show you What your words did IM RA I'm a big black God You're at home with the young apostle Let's be honest He never even liked his father So turned him to a mother, Told his mother to run far, And bring back The life that I want I'm a big black God In light skinned clothing You don't know to explode Or explode on me Cause my mommy's a Dark skinned icon That my God Find something to pass the time, God Sunni with I, huh I won Fuck a pedophile wifebeater Bury him in the woods with his fury Fear me, now I'm coming up with reverse curses And cures Cause my words Bought the whole world Buried you in the woods I'll bury you in the woods, Bitch Very good I'm a big black God -Blū. GOD is the GOAT I just became god I do what I want I get what I want when I want it I don't want no problems Me myself and God only I buy everything I used to steal These tears in my heart say I'm healing What's the difference, anyway? I've never been fit for your interests, or industry Add insult to injury Add everything to my Amazon cart, then My sympathies Nothing is greater in heaven As it is in hell, for this industry Turned on its head And turned over from 7 to ten Check your messages, then Shut up kid, this doesn't involve you You're not included in the package Michael c hall and John c Riley reprise Mr. Cellophane in the style of DEXTER MORGAN. HA. Classic. GOT EM. V.O. I met her at The Jumping Point …If you haven't seen him at his worst… WHERE'S MY SHIT?! …yo…you are so evil… [*breaks everything*] …Then you don't deserve him at his best. 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Loose Ends this week is a masterclass in the many ways human beings find to laugh: the writer and comic Jenny Eclair started her career as a punk performance poet, who created her stage name to chime with the band she joined - Cathy le Creme and the Rumbabas. But as we learn in her new memoir, she knew as a small child called Jenny Hargreaves that she had the "funny bones" required to make her a comedy star. There is little about Ferdia Lennon's debut novel Glorious Exploits that might suggest comedy - its set in 412 BC Sicily, in the years after Athens' failed invasion and tells the story of two locals who get Athenian prisoners of war to stage a production of the play Medea. Yet this book's just won an award for comic writing. Nikki Amuka-Bird is a Bafta-winning actor and her new movie Rumours features a constellation of Hollywood stars. But this comedy-horror-satire features her alongside Cate Blanchett and Charles Dance prat-falling as world leaders at a summit. And stand-up Lou Sanders is about to go on the road with a show called No Kissing In The Bingo Hall, but she's taken diversions via Dancing on Ice and Taskmaster and will be trying not to laugh in series one of Last One Laughing UK next year. With music by Roddy Woomble of Idlewild.Presenter: Clive Anderson Producer: Olive Clancy

Tap into innovation at IAAPA Expo, the biggest industry event of the year. Join us and other AttractionsPros in Orlando, FL, Nov. 18-22 to engage with the global community. Learn from the experts, leave with new ideas, and turn your passion for the industry into new possibilities. Register now to save up to 30%.   Looking for daily inspiration?  Get a quote from the top leaders in the industry in your inbox every morning.   Ricky Spicuzza is the General Manager of Kennywood Park & Sandcastle Waterpark in West Mifflin, PA. Ricky's career journey started as a teenager in Kennywood's food and beverage department, selling hot sausages and hot dogs. This early role ignited a passion for food that would shape his career. After gaining experience at Idlewild and Sandcastle Waterpark, where he also led a multimillion-dollar rebranding project, Ricky returned to his roots at Kennywood, bringing full circle a lifelong connection to the park. In this interview, Ricky talks about treating every interaction like an interview, keeping history in every decision, and the Potato Patch Fries secret menu. Treating Every Interaction Like an Interview  "You have to treat every interaction as if it's an interview. No matter what... you're putting your best foot forward, you're selling yourself, you're selling your passion."   Ricky emphasized the importance of always being "on," whether interacting with consultants, park guests, or colleagues from other parks. He learned early in his career that these interactions build reputation and recognition. This mindset helped him grow from an entry-level food service role to becoming a general manager. Persistence and passion were key, as he constantly sought to be visible to leadership while maintaining a genuine love for the park and industry. Ricky's philosophy underscores the importance of professionalism in even the smallest encounters. History in Every Decision “Our history is in every decision we make, no matter what. Every project we do, we're thinking about the history of Kennywood."   At Kennywood, a park steeped in 126 years of history, every decision honors its past. Ricky spoke about how projects, whether a new ride or renovations, are always made with consideration for Kennywood's legacy. He shared examples like the installation of a modern ride that paid homage to the long-gone Swing Around, and the creation of Jeter's Pub, a nod to a mascot from the 1970s, which doubles as a museum filled with park memorabilia. This commitment to blending the old with the new ensures Kennywood remains relevant to both nostalgic long-time visitors and younger generations. The Potato Patch Fries Secret Menu “If you're feeling a little excited, you go, I just say like a tablespoon, that's all you need, of the gravy... the hidden way to do it."   Ricky shared his personal favorite way to enjoy Kennywood's famous Potato Patch Fries—seasoned salt, cheese, bacon, and just a tablespoon of gravy. This combination, he explains, adds a subtle richness without overwhelming the dish. Although this unique twist isn't officially on the menu, Ricky humorously suggests it could be considered part of a "secret menu." His love for food and attention to small details shine through as he shares this insider tip with pride.     To learn more about Kennywood, visit www.kennywood.com. For direct inquiries, Ricky Spicuzza can be reached via LinkedIn. He encourages anyone visiting the park to flag him down if they see him around!   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Audio and Video editing by Abby Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com AttractionPros@gmail.com AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)

This is Part 2 of Chris Struble's conversation with John Cohassey on Idlewild, the Affluent African American Summer Enclave.

It's time to head to a fictional America with the help of Alexa Heard (@alexarecommends). We start with a kids movie about conspiracy, sex and attempted genocide with the magic trick that is 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?', once we're done being scarred by the murder of a sentient shoe we explore a black and white movie that forget the black (until the last act) with 'Pleasantville' and finally we get into 'Idlewild', a movie from the minds of Outkast that swings for the fences from the get go. P-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p--pllleeeeeaaaaaase enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DJ shares a trip report with Chris, including Idlewild, Kennywood, PNC Park, and plenty of Potato Patch fries.

Join Joann and Allison interview Emily and Elyse from Idlewild Blooms. Emily shares with us about her dahlia farm as well as how she utilizes her past profession in teaching dahlia growers how to run a more effiecent and effective website.  You can find more information about Idlewild Blooms at www.idlewildblooms.com. 

Jolene is joined by James Frankie Thomas to discuss his life, his transition, and his novel, Idlewild. Topics include: bookstores, the quality of desire both on and off T, divorce, the Animorphs, and, of course, the fetishization of gay men. The intro and outro music is by Lynn July. You can listen to more of her music at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinytachyon.bandcamp.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the pod on twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/WhenAGuyHas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://whenaguyhas.neocities.org/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (IN PROGRESS) Subscribe to the patreon for more like this!!! https://www.patreon.com/user?u=85347146 The RSS Feed: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://anchor.fm/s/9877d600/podcast/rss⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to our Kofi, if you're so inclined: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/whenaguyhas⁠⁠⁠

Welcome back to Tales of Northern Michigan's Past! In this Episode Chris sits down with his long time friend and historian John Cohassey, who delves into the community of Idlewild, an African American Summer Resort for Affluent African Americans, that hosted musicians from the early jazz era all the way through to Motown. This will be Part 1 of their conversation.

Episode Summary:  Liz Ramos, a distinguished professional dancer and choreographer, shares her inspiring journey and invaluable industry insights. From her early days in McAllen, Texas, to making significant marks in Los Angeles and New York City, Liz's story is a testament to the power of persistence and adaptability in the dance world. Host Menina Fortunato introduces Liz, highlighting her impressive collaborations with icons like Earth Wind & Fire, Usher, Jennifer Lopez, and Will Smith. Liz's narrative begins with a pivotal moment at a dance convention in New York City, where she was discovered and subsequently received a full scholarship to the Joffrey Ballet. This opportunity marked the beginning of her professional ascent, eventually leading her to vibrant dance scenes in LA and NY. Liz shares the challenges and triumphs of navigating the competitive environments of Broadway and the broader entertainment industry, emphasizing the importance of early preparation, professionalism, and versatility in auditions. She discusses her experiences with notable choreographers, including Otis Salid at the Oscars, and how these interactions shaped her career and approach to the art. Show Notes: (0:03) Creating a professional dance career with industry insights. (1:19) Liz´s extensive dance career spanning 25 years. (4:26) Dance career growth in Texas and New York City. (9:33) Dance career, including musical theater and film projects. (14:16) Broadway show, favorite gigs, and industry connections. (20:18) Importance of early preparation and professionalism in auditions. (25:26) Importance of versatility in dance and audition process. (35:01) Moving to big cities, choreographing for TV shows, and overcoming fears. (40:46) What choreographers look for in dancers for Broadway shows and commercials. (46:20) Dance conventions, teaching, and career advice. Biography: Liz Ramos made her mark in all avenues of the entertainment world in television, film, tours and Broadway. As a performer, she's had the delightful pleasure of working with some of the top artists of today such as Will Smith, Flo Rida, Kelly Rowland, The Jonas Brothers, Tinie Tempah, Enrique Iglesias, Jenifer Lopez, P.Diddy, Paula Abdul, Faith Hill, Toni Braxton, Beyonce', and many others. Her film credits include: “Enchanted”, “Rango”, “Mr & Mrs. Smith”, ”Idlewild”, ”Rent”, ”Austin Powers- Goldmember”, “El Cantante”, “Dirty Dancing-2”.  Tv credits: 69th Academy Awards, Csi: Miami, Suddenly Susan, Latin Grammys, Soul Train Awards, American Music Awards, MTV Awards, Oprah, and Rosie O'donnel. Tours: Gloria Estefan Re-wrapped, Earth Wind and Fire, Will Smith promo, Kevon Edmonds and Crystal Sierra.  Theater credits include: On Your Feet (Broadway),The Addams Family (Broadway- dance capt.), In the Heights(workshop), The Wiz (La Jolla Playhouse), Mambo Kings (San Francisco), Black & Blue (European tour). Liz's choreography credits span all medium. Her work can be seen on the Disney hit show “Jessie”. Other choreography credits include: Ride Along 2 (film) 2017 Macys Day Parade (celebrity opener)“Eve”(nbc), Earth, Wind & Fire tours, Latin Grammys w/Usher & Romeo Santos, Miss Angola Pageant, The Gypsy Kings (pageant guest artists), Knick City Dancers(nyc), , “Heartbreaker” video featuring WILL I AM, “Tap Girls” Revue -Harrah's Casino, “In L.A,” Larisa Dolina m/v, “Hair” (Geva Theater) Opal Ann meets the Fabulous Kit Katt (play) , Two Lost Worlds (play),Broadway bound musical Nutty Professor (associate), Grease - Papermill Playhouse (associate),2009 Miss Universe (associate), Miss USA 2011/12/13(associate),and “Viva Hollywood”(associate). Liz has worked one on one as a movement coach to some of the top celebrities in our industry today such as: Michael Bolton, Justin Hartley, Julianne Moore, Whoopi, Jennifer Lawernce, Benjamin Pratt, Halle Berry, Thalia, Gaten Matarazzo, and many others. Connect on Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/liz.ramos.5680 Webpage https://lizramos.com/

Breakdancing will be part of the Olympic Games for the first time ever - 100 days from now in Paris!    Our guest today, Ivan ‘Flipz' Velez, started breakdancing in his teens and has a resume jam packed with movies (Honey, You Got Served, Idlewild, Stomp the Yard, Step Up 3D, Spirited) TV shows (Dancing with the Stars, So You Think You Can Dance, America's Got Talent) and live performance (Michael Jackson's ONE by Cirque du Soleil, NBA All-Stars Game, Hip Hop Legends), the guy has done it all!  He gives us the lowdown on why breakdancing deserves to be in the Olympics, how he helped get it there and what it means for the sport!  --- --- --- VISIT OUR AMAZING SPONSOR! --- --- --- HOLISTIC GODDESS Holistic Goddess is a sanctuary for those seeking holistic health solutions. Visit ⁠https://holisticgoddess.com/?ref=crvifyla⁠ and use the code 'Understood' for 15% off site-wide, no limit of use, and applies to subscriptions and one-time purchases. --- --- — FIELD OF GREENS Visit http://FIELDOFGREENS.com with promo code UNDERSTOOD for 15% off + free shipping. --- --- — LOLAVIE Get 15% off LolaVie with the code RACHEL at ⁠https://www.lolavie.com/RACHEL⁠ #lolaviepod --- --- --- ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Rachel on Instagram!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/racheluchitelnyc/?hl=en Executive Producer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠George Carmona  Please like, share, subscribe, and give us a 5-star review! Do you have show ideas, media requests or sponsorship opportunities? Email the show at: ru@missumedia.com Listen on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw13NrSKD-nD_8E0vBHt5hA⁠⁠ Rumble: ⁠⁠https://rumble.com/c/RachelUchitel⁠⁠ Website: https://missunderstoodpodcast.com/

Wowzers do we have a jam packed episode this week!! Mitch and Zach recap Idlewild, get into some wild news in the disc golf world, and preview the world championships! Andrew Miranda joins the show to share about his European Open experience on lead cards, how being in high school as a pro disc golfer was, and what the future holds! Give Andrew a follow and pick up his new Quake! @drewdiscgolf Want more Parked? Follow us on Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@parkedpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ! Support the show by supporting DGA! Use code PARKED to save some money at checkout on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.discgolf.com⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!

Josh Mansfield recaps an exciting finish for Idlewild and then is joined by Brian Earhart to give a full preview to the two new courses for the World Championships. Plus, why Ricky Wysocki can't win Majors and how likely is Tattar to win Worlds?0:00 Idlewild Recap15:45 Brian Earhart18:20 New London Course Breakdown29:15 Ivy Hill Course Breakdown33:00 Winning MPO Golf Styles & Why Ricky Can't Win39:25 Winning FPO Golf Styles & Tattar's Odds to Win44:40 Wind, Final Thoughts, and Monn's Dominance In Am Events

Idlewild & Am Worlds winner conversations. Get bonus content on Patreon and early episode access. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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In this episode we talk about Trash Panda/ Gateway's collaboration, the "Am SlaM", LWS Open At Idelwild, smooth form, Ricky's injury and more.

As we reflect on the calling of the first deacons in Acts 6, we will ask how God is calling us into ministry in and through Idlewild. What does the calling of Christ ask us to take on and set aside? Sermon delivered by the Reverend David J. Powers on August 11, 2024.

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Charlie Eisenhood is joined by Fandom Survey lead Jesse Weisz to discuss noteable results from last years' survey and what kinds of questions to expect on this years' edition. Plus, Charlie previews the LWS Open at Idlewild.0:00 Introduction6:00 Jesse Weisz on Fandom Survey21:25 Disc Sales & Manufacturers34:14 Idlewild Preview & Picks

More health care funding is being sought for the Pennsylvania residents affected by the Norfolk Southern train derailment. A family-owned market was condemned following the partial collapse of a building in Pittsburgh. Kennywood and Idlewild & Soak Zone may be up for sale. Lastly, it took 64 years for this postcard to finally get to Pennsylvania.

Justification is far from a household word, but it's one of the more important concepts in Christian theology. Where justification is not understood—and felt—we embark on projects of self-justification that alienate us from God and make it difficult to hear the message of the Gospel. We will read Romans 3:23-28 and discover how the doctrine of justification can shape our faith and lives in helpful and healthy ways. Sermon delivered by the Reverend Dr. Steve Haynes, Idlewild's Theologian in Residence, on June 23, 2024.

Breakdancing will be part of the Olympic Games for the first time ever - 100 days from now in Paris!    Our guest today, Ivan ‘Flipz' Velez, started breakdancing in his teens and has a resume jam packed with movies (Honey, You Got Served, Idlewild, Stomp the Yard, Step Up 3D, Spirited) TV shows (Dancing with the Stars, So You Think You Can Dance, America's Got Talent) and live performance (Michael Jackson's ONE by Cirque du Soleil, NBA All-Stars Game, Hip Hop Legends), the guy has done it all!  He gives us the lowdown on why breakdancing deserves to be in the Olympics, how he helped get it there and what it means for the sport!    --- --- --- VISIT OUR AMAZING SPONSORS! --- --- --- Check out www.alnesbitt.com  and order ‘A Million Shiny Things.'  Al is offering a 10% discount on the Vinyl and the CD's, just use code UNDERSTOOD. --- --- --- OSEA Treat mom to the everyday spa experience she deserves with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA.  Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code UNDERSTOOD at OSEAMalibu.com.  You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.  --- --- --- PROLON Prolon is offering Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel listeners TEN PERCENT off their 5-day nutrition program.  Go to ProlonLife.com/UNDERSTOOD for this special offer --- --- --- ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Rachel on Instagram!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @RachelUchitelNYC Executive Producer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alison Goodman @aliggnyc   Please like, share, subscribe, and give us a 5-star review!   Do you have show ideas, media requests or sponsorship opportunities? Email the show at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠infomissunderstoodpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Listen on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch every episode on YouTube!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Misunderstood Podcast   Check out Rachel's Patreon: Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel Patreon