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World Alternative Media
IMPORTANT: 50 YEAR CANCER CURE - Man Forced To Be Smuggler As Cancer Cure Covered Up!

World Alternative Media

Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2025 46:48


GET YOUR APRICOT SEEDS at the life-saving Richardson Nutritional Center HERE: https://rncstore.com/r?id=bg8qc1 Use code JOSH to save money! Josh Sigurdson talks with Rick Hill, author of the book 'Too Young To Die' who is a 50 year cancer survivor following a diagnosis in 1974 at the age of 23. Rick Hill was told to take chemotherapy and gather with his family in preparation for death at the Mayo Clinic following a diagnosis of Stage 3 Embryonal Cell Carcinoma which is basically a stage 4 cancer. Instead of taking the chemotherapy, he took the advice of a priest and member of the John Birch society and went to the Oasis Of Hipe Hospital (then a clinic) in Tijuana, Mexico to do laetrile treatment. Laetrile (or Vitamin B17, amygdalin) comes from apricot seeds and has seen millions of examples since the 1970s of "miraculous" recovery. Rick Hill went on a 5 year program but felt better within only 2 weeks of treatment. When he returned home to the United States and the Mayo Clinic staff saw him, people's jaws dropped. He was supposed to be dead. In 1975, the American Cancer Institute came after him only for Mayo Clinic to stand up for his in a letter proving he did indeed face a deadly cancer and now he was cured of it. Beating cancer naturally is possible and indeed there are countless cases of this. This is important to understand in an age where we see a record breaking cancer epidemic break out. Rick was forced to smuggle apricot seeds or laetrile into the United States from Mexico due to restrictions put on doctors and many arrests over the issue in the 70s, making Rick a smuggler solely because he wanted to stay alive. If that doesn't expose a blatant agenda, what does? Stay tuned for more from WAM! DITCH YOUR DOCTOR! https://www.livelongerformula.com/wam Get a natural health practitioner and work with Christian Yordanov! Mention WAM and get a FREE masterclass! You will ALSO get a FREE metabolic function assessment! HELP SUPPORT US AS WE DOCUMENT HISTORY HERE: https://gogetfunding.com/help-wam-cover-history/ GET NON-MRNA FREEZE DRIED MEAT HERE: https://wambeef.com/ Use code WAMBEEF to save 20%! GET HEIRLOOM SEEDS & NON GMO SURVIVAL FOOD HERE: https://heavensharvest.com/ USE Code WAM to save 5% plus free shipping! Get local, healthy, pasture raised meat delivered to your door here: https://wildpastures.com/promos/save-20-for-life/bonus15?oid=6&affid=321 USE THE LINK & get 20% off for life and $15 off your first box! SIGN UP FOR HOMESTEADING COURSES NOW: https://freedomfarmers.com/link/17150/ Get Prepared & Start The Move Towards Real Independence With Curtis Stone's Courses! GET YOUR WAV WATCH HERE: https://buy.wavwatch.com/WAM Use Code WAM to save $100 and purchase amazing healing frequency technology! GET ORGANIC CHAGA MUSHROOMS HERE: https://alaskachaga.com/wam Use code WAM to save money! See shop for a wide range of products! GET AMAZING MEAT STICKS HERE: https://4db671-1e.myshopify.com/discount/WAM?rfsn=8425577.918561&utm_source=refersion&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=8425577.918561 USE CODE WAM TO SAVE MONEY! GET YOUR FREEDOM KELLY KETTLE KIT HERE: https://patriotprepared.com/shop/freedom-kettle/ Use Code WAM and enjoy many solutions for the outdoors in the face of the impending reset! BUY GOLD HERE: https://firstnationalbullion.com/schedule-consult/ PayPal: ancientwonderstelevision@gmail.com FIND OUR CoinTree page here: https://cointr.ee/joshsigurdson JOIN US on SubscribeStar here: https://www.subscribestar.com/world-alternative-media For subscriber only content! Pledge here! Just a dollar a month can help us alive! https://www.patreon.com/user?u=2652072&ty=h&u=2652072 BITCOIN ADDRESS: 18d1WEnYYhBRgZVbeyLr6UfiJhrQygcgNU World Alternative Media 2025

Western Edition
Hidden Pasadena: Prologue

Western Edition

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2024 4:38


More than 50 million viewers begin each new year looking to Pasadena, tuning into the Rose Parade to see flower and seed-coated floats cruise slowly down Colorado Boulevard.  But to nearly 140,000 of those viewers, the “City of Roses” is home, a complex suburb of downtown Los Angeles with a deep history. Internationally known for the Rose Bowl, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Playhouse, the Arts and Crafts Movement, Jackie Robinson, Julia Child, Octavia Butler, Mildred Pierce, its little old ladies, the Arroyo Seco, and so much more, Pasadena has played a greater role in American and Pacific histories than most of its residents even know.The fourth season of Western Edition — the podcast from the Huntington-USC Institute on California and the West (ICW) — digs deep into the “Crown City” of the San Gabriel Valley. Western Edition: Hidden Pasadena shares six little-known Pasadena stories, from Simons brickyard to Vroman's bookstore, St. Barnabas church to the Shoya House at The Huntington. It also considers Pasadenans from the past, from John Brown's children to John Birch's followers.

Contra Radio Network
Elsa Kurt with Clay Novak | Resilience, Heroism, and Constitutional Fidelity: A Conversation with Mark Deluzio

Contra Radio Network

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2024 67:18


Join us for an enlightening conversation with Mark Deluzio of  @ConstitutionSolution &  a pioneer in lean manufacturing and the mastermind behind the globally revered Danaher Business System. Hear Mark's inspiring story, from his humble beginnings in New England to his pivotal role in shaping modern manufacturing practices taught at Harvard. Mark also opens up about his personal life, sharing the heart-wrenching tale of his sons' military service and the tragic loss of his younger son, Steven, providing listeners with a raw and heartfelt perspective on resilience and heroism.We shift gears to discuss some of today's most contentious political issues  involving President Obama and the broader implications of globalism and communism. His close friendship with Sheriff Joe Arpaio adds a personal touch to the investigation insights we delve into. We also explore the legacy of influential figures like John Birch and Senator McCarthy, drawing connections to current leaders like President Trump, who challenge these ideologies in their fight for election integrity and against globalist agendas.The episode takes a deep dive into the crucial year of 1913, examining its lasting impact on America's economic and political landscape. From the establishment of the Federal Reserve to the 16th Amendment, we uncover the constitutional concerns that continue to shape the nation. Personal reflections on grief and heroism, along with a critique of modern political dynamics, round out this rich and multifaceted discussion. Through Mark Deluzio's compelling narrative and our critical analysis, listeners are offered a mix of inspiration, historical insight, and a call for constitutional fidelity.Learn more about Mark's son Scott: https://driveonpodcast.com/product/surviving-son  Support the Show. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/contra-radio-network/support

Contra Radio Network
Elsa Kurt with Clay Novak | Resilience, Heroism, and Constitutional Fidelity: A Conversation with Mark Deluzio

Contra Radio Network

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2024 67:18


Join us for an enlightening conversation with Mark Deluzio of  @ConstitutionSolution &  a pioneer in lean manufacturing and the mastermind behind the globally revered Danaher Business System. Hear Mark's inspiring story, from his humble beginnings in New England to his pivotal role in shaping modern manufacturing practices taught at Harvard. Mark also opens up about his personal life, sharing the heart-wrenching tale of his sons' military service and the tragic loss of his younger son, Steven, providing listeners with a raw and heartfelt perspective on resilience and heroism. We shift gears to discuss some of today's most contentious political issues  involving President Obama and the broader implications of globalism and communism. His close friendship with Sheriff Joe Arpaio adds a personal touch to the investigation insights we delve into. We also explore the legacy of influential figures like John Birch and Senator McCarthy, drawing connections to current leaders like President Trump, who challenge these ideologies in their fight for election integrity and against globalist agendas. The episode takes a deep dive into the crucial year of 1913, examining its lasting impact on America's economic and political landscape. From the establishment of the Federal Reserve to the 16th Amendment, we uncover the constitutional concerns that continue to shape the nation. Personal reflections on grief and heroism, along with a critique of modern political dynamics, round out this rich and multifaceted discussion. Through Mark Deluzio's compelling narrative and our critical analysis, listeners are offered a mix of inspiration, historical insight, and a call for constitutional fidelity. Learn more about Mark's son Scott: https://driveonpodcast.com/product/surviving-son  Support the Show.

The Elsa Kurt Show
Resilience, Heroism, and Constitutional Fidelity: A Conversation with Mark Deluzio

The Elsa Kurt Show

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2024 67:18 Transcription Available


Join us for an enlightening conversation with Mark Deluzio of  @ConstitutionSolution &  a pioneer in lean manufacturing and the mastermind behind the globally revered Danaher Business System. Hear Mark's inspiring story, from his humble beginnings in New England to his pivotal role in shaping modern manufacturing practices taught at Harvard. Mark also opens up about his personal life, sharing the heart-wrenching tale of his sons' military service and the tragic loss of his younger son, Steven, providing listeners with a raw and heartfelt perspective on resilience and heroism.We shift gears to discuss some of today's most contentious political issues  involving President Obama and the broader implications of globalism and communism. His close friendship with Sheriff Joe Arpaio adds a personal touch to the investigation insights we delve into. We also explore the legacy of influential figures like John Birch and Senator McCarthy, drawing connections to current leaders like President Trump, who challenge these ideologies in their fight for election integrity and against globalist agendas.The episode takes a deep dive into the crucial year of 1913, examining its lasting impact on America's economic and political landscape. From the establishment of the Federal Reserve to the 16th Amendment, we uncover the constitutional concerns that continue to shape the nation. Personal reflections on grief and heroism, along with a critique of modern political dynamics, round out this rich and multifaceted discussion. Through Mark Deluzio's compelling narrative and our critical analysis, listeners are offered a mix of inspiration, historical insight, and a call for constitutional fidelity.Learn more about Mark's son Scott: https://driveonpodcast.com/product/surviving-sonSupport the Show.DON'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT EMERGENCY, PLUS, SAVE 15%: https://www.twc.health/elsa#ifounditonamazon https://a.co/ekT4dNOTRY AUDIBLE PLUS: https://amzn.to/3vb6Rw3Elsa's Books: https://www.amazon.com/~/e/B01E1VFRFQDesign Like A Pro: https://canva.7eqqol.net/xg6Nv...

Connecting Minds
Thriving Outside of "Their System" w/ Jay Noone

Connecting Minds

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2024 121:35


Bourne in ‘79 on western Massachusetts, the oldest of six kids. Jay was raised by an O.G. libertarian horse trader, Spud Noone. Jay spent his youth at horse auctions, livestock auctions, stacking hay, competing in horse shows and rodeos. Jay also attended many freedom meetings and law study groups like ones put on by the John Birch society. As a teenager Jay worked or apprenticed in many trades that include, HVAC, logging, auto and equipment repair, roofing, welding, blacksmithing, farrier, feed broker, hay stacker and all around farm hand. Jay was a hay dealer and horse trader until 2013, then he moved to Colorado to work on a 3500 acre crop farm, a large commercial dairy operation, and a harvest crew, that was Owned buy his Mom Karen and Stepfather Trent.Then he moved to New Hampshire in late 2016 to join the FreeStateproject.org. Jay met his wife Shalon at the Porcupine Freedom Festival (Porcfest) in 2014, they got Married at Porcfest in 2018 bought a home with some land. A proud father of 2 kids and started raising cows, pigs and chickens and preparing generation next to not need government. Jay Started a home school event called ManCamp, to build confidence in children by teaching them real life skills like welding, blacksmithing, farming, ranching, problem solving, patience, tolerance, and most importantly encouraging kids to earn there dopamine hits from farm work.Jay is a long time advocate of trading out side of fiat money, buy using barter, Bitcoin, silver, and gold-backs. A long time co host on Free Talk live, and has made many appearances on declare your Independence with Ernest Handcock.Jay is Currently developing a series of lectures, titled "Invest In Our Posterity" as he feels people are just letting the algorithm and government schools raise their kids. The work he is doing now is preparing generation next to have the confidence and competence to not need government, and teaching parents how to build confidence in their children.Connect with Jay: Website: https://jaynoone.com/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLtqcQP48gA7gjPtNU4HVOAGet 10% off Anarchapulco 2024 replays with code JAY: https://anarchapulco.com/Christian's links: My new book, How to Actually Live Longer, Vol.1: https://amzn.to/3OnZJGlHealth Consulting (book your free 15-min session with me):Optimal health and longevity: https://christianyordanov.com/optimal-health-and-longevity/Complex / chronic issues: https://christianyordanov.com/health-consulting/

JFK The Enduring Secret
Episode 209 The Secret Service Question Part 20 The Chicago Plot

JFK The Enduring Secret

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2024 61:01


Episode 209 is the twentieth  in a series covering the Secret Service and  possible involvement in the coverup, or the  actual plot itself to assassinate President Kennedy.  Today's episode covers the  plot to  kill the president in Chicago on November 2nd, 1963. just twenty days before his actual assassination in Dallas. President Kennedy was scheduled to attend the Army Airforce Game in Chicago. Several days prior to his arrival,  the FBI phoned the  secret service Chicago office and apprised them  that there was a plot afoot that deployed paramilitary gunman to kill the president. And that they were likely to be aiming at the president as he exited the expressway close to stadium. The clue was provided by a man with the first name of Lee. Shortly after a landlady came across rifles with scopes in one of four rooms that she had rented to four men, she concluded it was suspicious and informed the authorities. The head of the local secret service knew it was the plot that he had been forewarned about by the FBI. For reasons that are still, to this day, not completely clear, the FBI chose to "turf" the case entirely over to the secret service. They did so despite the fact that the secret service had minimal personnel in the Chicago office, consisting only of eight agents at the time. After a surveillance snafu, only two of the four men were identified and taken into custody for questioning. The other two men known to the landlady, were never identified or found. Meanwhile, through an unidentified tip, the authorities became aware of an ex-Marine that turned out to be a perfect patsy. Thomas Arthur Valley. His credentials looked surprisingly like Oswalds...both were marines, both  served in the marines in  japan at bases there, and both bases were CIA fortresses. With a history of far right leanings and connections to the John Birch society and later shown to have trained with  anti-Castro Cubans, Valley had a sketchy mental health background. No doubt that he  would have been  considered a lone nut. A perfect patsy. He had recently taken a job in a manufacturing concern located  in a multi-story building along the motorcade route, close to a point in the road where the president's limousine would come to the end of the expressway and stop, and then make a 90 degree turn.  Eerily similar to the Dealey Plaza scenario. Details of the Chicago plot were  sealed up by the secret service and apparently not made available to the planners in Miami, Tampa and  the Texas trips including Dallas.  It was many years later before the plots were revealed generally.  Was there more to the story. Why were these details withheld from planners in Dallas?Even as early as 1964, rumors and serious concerns over  the lone gunman theory and the evidence that might contravene it,  were becoming a major concern for the government and the commission. Conspiracy theories were contrary to the government's stated narrative from the very beginning. This  real-life story is more fascinating than fiction.  No matter whether you are a serious researcher or a casual student, you will enjoy the fact filled narrative and story as  we relive one of the most shocking moments in American History. An event that changed the nation and changed the world forever.

The John Steigerwald Show
The John Steigerwald Show – Thursday February 1, 2024

The John Steigerwald Show

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 41:10


MAYBE ROBERT WELCH WAS ON TO SOMETHING    Robert co-founded the John Birch society in 1958. He gave a speech at the time that was  considered by most  people to be the ravings of an insane conspiracy theorist. Turns out he was right about almost everything.    Looking for another reason not to buy an EV? According to a study by the University of Nebraska, your chances of crashing through a guard rail or a cement wall  are much better than with an old fashioned gas powered vehicle.    Laura Beltz, Policy Director for the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression has the results of a study on free speech rights on college campuses. They're not encouraging.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dirty Moderate with Adam Epstein
Eisenhower was a Commie! *and other MAGA type nonsense from the John Birch Society

Dirty Moderate with Adam Epstein

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2023 60:23


This is not America's first manipulative fascist rodeo. Our grand experiment has been peppered with religious and MAGA type freaks throughout its 247 years. When a large group of independent thinkers, adventurers, natives, freedom seekers, religious zealots, and young, scrappy and hungry individuals come together in one pot and create a beautiful stew of a nation there are bound to be some interesting concoctions and even a few stinkers. The John Birch Society was a powerful machine fueled by hate, white privilege, manipulation, and good old fashioned religion as a weapon, along with a slew of “deep state” conspiracy theories like Jewish bankers were controlling the world and Dwight D. Eisenhower was a dedicated Communist agent LOL. Sound familiar? We see you Moms for “Liberty”.Author, GW professor and historian Matthew Dallek has written a new book called “Birchers: How the John Birch Society Radicalized the American Right” which expertly shows how the GOP allowed a small, but organized band of conspiracy theorists, racists, anti-semites and paranoiacs to lay the groundwork for the party of Lincoln to become the party of MAGA and Trump. In this wide ranging conversation, Matthew Dallek joins Dirty Moderate to spill the sad, but important hiThanks for helping us save democracy one episode at a time!Join the Dirty Moderate Nation on Substack! Tell us what you think on Twitter! Or, if you are fed up with Elon's bullshit, hit us up on Threads! There are always shenanigans over on TikTok too…Are you registered to VOTE?

Conspiracy Clearinghouse
JBS BS: The John Birch Society

Conspiracy Clearinghouse

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2023 36:09


EPSIODE 89 | JBS BS: The John Birch Society History is full of those who became tyrants or aspired to become one. Even in a country like the United States in the fairly enlightened 20th century, there were those who thought that, well, actually, their vision of how things should be was the best one, and that they should probably just be in charge. And if you opposed them, they said all sorts of disagreeable things about you. And sometimes they just outright lied. Welcome to the John Birch Society, where anything and everything goes in the life and death struggle against international Communism. And they are kind of the foundation of today's far right. Like what we do? Then buy us a beer or three via our page on Buy Me a Coffee. #ConspiracyClearinghouse #sharingiscaring #donations #support #buymeacoffee You can also SUBSCRIBE to this podcast. Review us here or on IMDb! SECTIONS 02:10 - Candy-Coated Commie Hater - Candy maker Robert Welch Jr. was a smart guy, but also a hardcore Baptist and rabid anti-Communist 04:37 - Birch the Baptist Spy - Angry Baptist zealot John Birch became a spy in China during WWII, getting killed by Communists just after Japan surrendered; Welch was inspired, founding the John Birch Society in 1958 along with Fred Koch, Robert Waring Stoddard, Harry Lynde Bradley and anti-Semite Revilo P. Oliver, who went pretty much full Nazi later on 09:32 - Red Scares - Marxism's beginnings, the First Red Scare (1919-1920), bans and deportations, the Immigration Act of 1924, the Second Red Scare (1947-1958), loyalty oaths, the Communist Party outlawed, the Black List 15:04 - JBS BS - Conspiracy theories aplenty, America was "great" in the year 1900, created the water fluoridation freakout, Dr. Strangelove, membership grew while Welch got weirder, other far righter groups not so supportive, Barry Goldwater set the stage for Reagan, the Soviet Negro Republic pamphlet 23:28 - Go Your Own Way - The Birchers started to lose supporters in the 70s and 80s, the ultra-conservative US Taxpayers Party splits off and then becomes the Constitution Party, the American Heritage Party split from them and then became the Christian Liberty Party - both foundational to the Tea Party movement 29:48 - Fellow Travelers - Jim Gilchrist is a fan of the American Heritage Party, so is Alex Jones lapdog Jerome Corsi, who eats heartily from the conspiracy buffet; the JBS pushes Agenda 21 CTs, keeps records on political voting records; some think Trumpism is basically Bircherism Music by Fanette Ronjat More Info:  Who Was John Birch? - 1961 Time Magazine article Robert Welch, Founder of Birch Society, Dies at 85 The New American (the JBS magazine) JBS Freedom Index The Constitution Party website Christian Liberty Party website America at the Turn of the Century: A Look at the Historical Context The John Birchers' Tea Party Tea party: Dark side of conservatism on Poltico The Tea Party, the John Birch Society, and the Fear of "Mob Rule" The Tea Party Movement as a Modern Incarnation of Nativism in the United States and Its Role in American Electoral Politics, 2009-2014 paper The John Birch Society Is Back Flight from reason - Thomas Patterson looks at the threat to Democracy in ‘How America Lost Its Mind' Today's right-wing conspiracy theory mentality can be traced back to the John Birch Society Today's Paranoid Right Has Surpassed the John Birch Society It Didn't Start with Trump: The Decades-Long Saga of How the GOP Went Crazy How the John Birch Society radicalized the American Right The fringe group that broke the GOP's brain — and helped the party win elections on Vox American Psychosis: A Historical Investigation of How the Republican Party Went Crazy by David Corn Robert Evans's Behind the Bastards podcast Behind the Bastards episodes about the John Birch Society:  Part One & Part Two Follow us on social for extra goodies: Facebook Twitter Other Podcasts by Derek DeWitt DIGITAL SIGNAGE DONE RIGHT - Winner of a 2022 Gold Quill Award, 2022 Gold MarCom Award, 2021 AVA Digital Award Gold, 2021 Silver Davey Award, 2020 Communicator Award of Excellence, and on numerous top 10 podcast lists.  PRAGUE TIMES - A city is more than just a location - it's a kaleidoscope of history, places, people and trends. This podcast looks at Prague, in the center of Europe, from a number of perspectives, including what it is now, what is has been and where it's going. It's Prague THEN, Prague NOW, Prague LATER

KRIMILAND
JFK – Episode 23: Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues

KRIMILAND

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2023 55:22


I dette afsnit taler Johan Wizan om det paranoide USA. Om Den Dybe Stat og om CIA som magtfuld institution, også om det fejlslagne militærkup i 30'erne, som måske kan have relevans i forhold til mordet på JFK. Vi dykker også ned i nogle meget spændende passager fra George de Mohrenschildts afhøring i Warren-kommissionen. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Austroads: Transport Research and Trends
Best-Practice Guidance for the Design, Delivery and Testing of Road Tunnel Aesthetic Features

Austroads: Transport Research and Trends

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2023 52:04


Austroads has recently completed a project to identify best-practice guidance for the design, delivery and testing of in-tunnel aesthetic design features, with the aspirations to improve tunnel safety and customer experience. Through the review of recent tunnel projects, current literature and practices, a definition was developed for in-tunnel aesthetic design features and a best-practice process through which in-tunnel aesthetic design features are designed, delivered, and tested. This webinar with Warwick Keating and John Birch provides an overview of the findings of this project and the best practice methodology which should be considered when planning, designing, procuring, operating and maintaining in-tunnel aesthetic design features.

Loving Liberty Radio Network
03-25-2023 Liberty RoundTable with Sam Bushman

Loving Liberty Radio Network

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2023 109:40


Hour 1 * Guest: Chris Carlson – Without God, we can never win, With God, we can never lose, The Battle for Freedom is the Lord's, but we need to be engaged in the fight! * Guest: James Edwards – Race, Politics & Hypocrisy in 21st Century America – thepoliticalcesspool.org * James Edwards: I am pleased to announce that The Honorable Cause: A Free South has just been released and is now available for purchase! – The purpose of this book is to retake the narrative related to Southern nationalism and secession advocacy. For too long, our political and cultural enemies have been able to drive and define that conversation. This book will serve as a vital tool in taking the communications mantle back from those who seek our destruction and ruin. * The Honorable Cause: A Free South is a collection of twelve essays written by pro-Southern and pro-secession activists. * Mr. Edwards contributed the opening chapter “There's No Place Like Home” of this compilation that features essays written by Rebecca Dillingham, Dr. Michael Hill, Neil Kumar, Padraig Martin, Anne Wilson Smith, and several other leading champions of a free and independent South. * I hope you will purchase your copy today – Deo Vindice, James Edwards. * Deo vindice – Latin for “With God as Our Defender/Protector”! – National Motto Of The Confederate States of America. * The Enemy Within the Gates – The war with China is not “coming,” it's already here – Bill Jasper, TheNewAmerican.com * Robert Welch a successful manufacturer, scholar, and ant-communist activist, discovered the crime and its coverup and wrote The Life of John Birch in 1954. In 1958, he founded the John Birch Society, an educational, patriotic and anti-communist organization, naming it in honor of Captain Birch, whom he saw as a heroic martyr and the first casualty of the Cold War. * “If you wait for missiles to be launched and bombs to fall, you've already lost. China launched the war years (nay, decades) ago. They call it “unrestricted warfare” and “war by other means.” * This is political, social, psychological, and kinetic. They are using trade, investment, theft, espionage, infiltration, bribery, propaganda, intimidation, drugs, organized crime, social turmoil, cyber-attacks, social media, biological agents (as in viral pandemics), and much more as weapons of destabilization. Hour 2 * James Edwards: “If they can purge faith and family from our hearts, then it's only a matter of time before they can dominate and destroy us; and with their toughest opposition out of the way, they can dominate the world.” * Economic Dependency: They are weakening us by hollowing out our industrial/manufacturing base and making us dependent on them for just about everything from computer chips, smart phones, and critical electronic components to clothing, tools, machinery, and medicines. * According to the International atomic Energy Agency, China has 19 new nuclear plants under construction, more than double the next competitor, India, which is building eight new plants. Tied for third place are Russia and Turkey, both of which have four under construction. Meanwhile, the United States, which pioneered nuclear energy and was once the undisputed leader in the field, is finally building two new nuclear power plants. * Scott Paul president of The Alliance of American Manufacturers, laid out a long list of horrifying statistics: “China now produces 54 percent of the world's steel and 51 percent of float glass, as well as 75 percent of the world's EV batteries, 80 percent of polysilicon utilized in solar panels, and 80 percent of some active pharmaceutical ingredients and components.” * Joel Skousen's Interview With Owen Shroyer (WAB Mar. 3) * Skousen: “Russia and China are against our globalists, but not because they intend to give any semblance of freedom to the world, but because they want to establish their own system of New World Order." --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/loving-liberty/support

Liberty Roundtable Podcast
Radio Show Hour 1 – 03/25/2023

Liberty Roundtable Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2023 54:50


* Guest: Chris Carlson - Without God, we can never win, With God, we can never lose, The Battle for Freedom is the Lord's, but we need to be engaged in the fight! * Guest: James Edwards - Race, Politics & Hypocrisy in 21st Century America - thepoliticalcesspool.org * James Edwards: I am pleased to announce that The Honorable Cause: A Free South has just been released and is now available for purchase! - The purpose of this book is to retake the narrative related to Southern nationalism and secession advocacy. For too long, our political and cultural enemies have been able to drive and define that conversation. This book will serve as a vital tool in taking the communications mantle back from those who seek our destruction and ruin. * The Honorable Cause: A Free South is a collection of twelve essays written by pro-Southern and pro-secession activists. * Mr. Edwards contributed the opening chapter "There's No Place Like Home" of this compilation that features essays written by Rebecca Dillingham, Dr. Michael Hill, Neil Kumar, Padraig Martin, Anne Wilson Smith, and several other leading champions of a free and independent South. * I hope you will purchase your copy today - Deo Vindice, James Edwards. * Deo vindice - Latin for "With God as Our Defender/Protector"! - National Motto Of The Confederate States of America. * The Enemy Within the Gates - The war with China is not “coming,” it's already here - Bill Jasper, TheNewAmerican.com * Robert Welch a successful manufacturer, scholar, and ant-communist activist, discovered the crime and its coverup and wrote The Life of John Birch in 1954. In 1958, he founded the John Birch Society, an educational, patriotic and anti-communist organization, naming it in honor of Captain Birch, whom he saw as a heroic martyr and the first casualty of the Cold War. * “If you wait for missiles to be launched and bombs to fall, you've already lost. China launched the war years (nay, decades) ago. They call it “unrestricted warfare” and “war by other means.” * This is political, social, psychological, and kinetic. They are using trade, investment, theft, espionage, infiltration, bribery, propaganda, intimidation, drugs, organized crime, social turmoil, cyber-attacks, social media, biological agents (as in viral pandemics), and much more as weapons of destabilization.

The Source
‘Preparing for War' traces the history of white Christian nationalism from John Birch to Jan. 6

The Source

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2023 48:50


There has been a recent rise in religious and political leaders who have embraced the ‘Christian Nationalist' label. In fact, most adults who live in the United States falsely believe that America's founders intended the country to be a Christian nation, and 45% of adults who live in the United States today believe that it should be a Christian nation. This subsect of Christianity thinks that a civil war is imminent.

Missouri Liberty Report
MissouriLibertyReport 1-13-2023

Missouri Liberty Report

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2023 56:01


I'm joined by Constitutional expert Robert Brown. He's worked with the John Birch society and has educated thousands of people on not just the Constitution, but the history behind it. He has a YouTube series called the Constitution is the solution. We'll be going into nullification and the long history of it. Not just in this country. There are other historical instances of nullification throughout history. Constitution is the solution video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvk-b... Robert's video on nullification: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%... John Birch Society website: https://jbs.org/ Missouri Liberty Report odysee channel: https://odysee.com/@MissouriLibertyRe... Our Sponsor: https://www.slaphappybeverage.com/ You can also hear the Missouri Liberty Report here: http://molibertyradio.us/ and here https://www.keygatheringplace.com/key... Missouri Freedom Initiative: https://www.mofree.org/ YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@missourifree... Odysee channel: https://odysee.com/@MissouriLibertyAl... You'll find their livestream on Odysee on Saturday evenings at 7:30 central time. Be sure to listen on Sunday evenings from 7:00-9:00 here: http://molibertyradio.us/ Off the Cuff radio show with Sam and Trish Britto

Missouri Liberty Report Plus
MissouriLibertyReportPLus 1-13-2023

Missouri Liberty Report Plus

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2023 128:31


I'm joined by Constitutional expert Robert Brown. He's worked with the John Birch society and has educated thousands of people on not just the Constitution, but the history behind it. He has a YouTube series called the Constitution is the solution. We'll be going into nullification and the long history of it. Not just in this country. There are other historical instances of nullification throughout history. Constitution is the solution video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvk-b... Robert's video on nullification: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%... John Birch Society website: https://jbs.org/ Missouri Liberty Report odysee channel: https://odysee.com/@MissouriLibertyRe... Our Sponsor: https://www.slaphappybeverage.com/ You can also hear the Missouri Liberty Report here: http://molibertyradio.us/ and here https://www.keygatheringplace.com/key... Missouri Freedom Initiative: https://www.mofree.org/ YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@missourifree... Odysee channel: https://odysee.com/@MissouriLibertyAl... You'll find their livestream on Odysee on Saturday evenings at 7:30 central time. Be sure to listen on Sunday evenings from 7:00-9:00 here: http://molibertyradio.us/ Off the Cuff radio show with Sam and Trish Britto

AHC Podcast
John Wayne

AHC Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2022 65:53


There aren't many things more American than baseball, apple pie, and John Wayne.  Wayne lived in a time where movie stars were revered, almost as mythical figures, and due to lack of social media, 24/7 coverage, and the good ‘ole boy system.  He dodged the cancel culture by multiple decades, but as the internet has shown, you can't hide forever.  What could “The Duke” have done to bring him to our courtroom?  Was he a real American hero, or was there a lot more to his war-time story?  We'll dive into this and more in this episode of AHC Podcast.               Intro Music Credits: Wild West by ZitronSound http://bit.ly/2nXGy9W Promoted by MrSnooze https://youtu.be/wTm-WFM0v-g Creative Commons — CC BY-ND 3.0 https://goo.gl/QHshNa   Song shortened to fit intro time                 Citations: Dowell, P. (1995, September 25). John Wayne, Man and Myth. The Washington Post. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/reviews/wayne.htm?itid=lk_inline_manual_26 Frankel, G. (2014, April 4). 'John Wayne: The life and legend' by Scott Eyman. The Washington Post. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/john-wayne-the-life-and-legend-by-scott-eyman/2014/04/04/f3cc6dc2-af84-11e3-9627-c65021d6d572_story.html Guardian News and Media. (2015, June 6). Hollywood and the downwinders still grapple with nuclear fallout. The Guardian. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/06/downwinders-nuclear-fallout-hollywood-john-wayne Land, G. (2021, October 15). 10 famous actors who served in World War Two. History Hit. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.historyhit.com/famous-actors-who-served-in-world-war-two/ Mirkin, G. (2021, August 15). Dr. Gabe Mirkin. Dr Gabe Mirkin on Health. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.drmirkin.com/histories-and-mysteries/john-wayne.html Najib, S. (2022, September 15). Sacheen Littlefeather says 1973 John Wayne Incident was 'most violent moment' in Oscars history . Peoplemag. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://people.com/movies/sacheen-littlefeather-says-1973-john-wayne-incident-was-most-violent-moment-in-oscars-history/ Rosenberg, E. (2019, February 20). 'I believe in White Supremacy': John Wayne's notorious 1971 Playboy interview goes viral on Twitter. The Washington Post. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/02/20/i-believe-white-supremacy-john-waynes-notorious-playboy-interview-goes-viral-twitter/ Salmon, C. (2019, February 20). Should we be surprised by John Wayne's racist and homophobic views? The Guardian. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/feb/20/john-wayne-racist-homophobic-views-1971-playboy-interview Stilwell, B. (2020, October 30). This is what happened when a newspaper called John Wayne a 'fraud'. We Are The Mighty. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-culture/john-wayne-invades-harvard/ Trickey, E. (2021, January 15). Long before QAnon, Ronald Reagan and the GOP purged John Birch extremists from the Party. The Washington Post. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/01/15/john-birch-society-qanon-reagan-republicans-goldwater/ Walsh, N. P. (2003, August 1). Book tells how John Wayne survived Soviet assassination. The Guardian. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/aug/01/film.russia Wikimedia Foundation. (2022, August 27). Hollywood babylon. Wikipedia. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Babylon Wikimedia Foundation. (2022, November 4). John Wayne. Wikipedia. Retrieved November 5, 2022, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne

Free Forum with Terrence McNally
Episode 576: DAVID CORN, The Stakes of the MidTerms:- AMERICAN PSYCHOSIS: How The Republican Party Went Crazy

Free Forum with Terrence McNally

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2022 60:00


In AMERICAN PSYCHOSIS, DAVID CORN reminds us that Trump and Trumpism is not a radical departure for the Grand Old Party. Picking up the story at the end of World War II, he traces a continuous, long, deep-rooted Republican practice of boosting and weaponizing the rage and derangement of the Right, nurturing and exploiting fear and loathing fueled by paranoia, grievance, and tribalism. John Birch to The Big Lie, Rush Limbaugh to Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, The Religious Right to the Supreme Court. And a very real threat to democracy up and down the ballot in the mid-terms. We talk about that history as well as what's at stake in these elections.

SimplyWhy
Dr. John Birch: Science + Faith

SimplyWhy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2022 19:27


This week Connor is joined by Dr. John Birch, who spent 16 years as a nuclear physicist before becoming an associate professor at Indiana Wesleyan University and a published author. Listen in to hear how faith and science mesh together, what quantum mechanics is about, and how to prevent nuclear injuries. Link to Religious Diversity in the American Experience: https://www.amazon.com/Religious-Diversity-American-Experience-Theological/dp/0826427944 Follow Us:Website: simplywhypodcast.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iwuglobal/?hl=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/IWUGlobal/Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/IWUGlobal

The Paranoid Strain
New! Qanon: How we got here - Dedicated, conscious agents of the anti-Communist conspiracy

The Paranoid Strain

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 40:07


We're finishing up our Bircher talk here, with our discussion of the group's great crusades to keep people from having more rights, because apparently expanding civil, women's, or gay rights played right into the commies' hands. Plus, they really, really wanted to get rid of Chief Justice Earl Warren. Did they? Kinda. I mean, he retired. So Victory! Plus, you'll learn who this John Birch guy is, and why it's not called The Robert Welch Society. Next week--well, we don't wanna spoil it. But you're not gonna want to miss it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Fate of Fact
August 25th: John Birch Is Killed

Fate of Fact

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2022 6:35


On August 25, 1945, John Birch is killed in the Far East. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

JFK The Enduring Secret
Episode 113 A Shot At General Walker Part 1

JFK The Enduring Secret

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2022 30:16


Episode 113 is  the first of a two episode miniseries covering  the attempted murder of General Edwin Walker in Dallas on April 10, 1963.  It was learned after the assassination of JFK,  that Lee Harvey Oswald was the likely perpetrator of the attempt on Walker's life, based on evidence found at Ruth Paine's home and testimony provided by Oswald's  wife after Oswald was murdered.  Walker was an ultra conservative and high profile former army general who was a member of the John Birch society and was expelled from the military for promulgating his ultra right wing views amongst service men.   The Warren commission identified this attempt on Walker's life by Oswald to be one of five stated factors that formed the possible motive for why Oswald killed the president, citing this as a prior act of violence where he demonstrated the willingness to attempt to murder a political figure using a  a rifle. Join us in this rather interesting story that, like other parts of the JFK assassination, has it's own twists and turns and mysterious elements.  Let us know  what you like about the podcast orr just provide us with comments on the episode via  email at podcastjfk@gmail.com or get active in our blog for each episode at www.podcastjfk.com   Either way, keep listening, and join us for the whole series of episodes about the fantastic goings on that encompass this part of the JFK story. Our episodes have now begun  to explore  an array of matters that  dive into a deeper  darkness  related to what  went on that day in Dallas and in the  period before and after the assassination.  Matters   that possibly point  to a  wider  and more sinister  plot to kill the president and  that clearly call into question the theory that there was a  lone assassin.   Complex cases without  an eyewitness that can actually identify the shooter make the forensic and circumstantial evidence that much more important.  Ironically, problems abound with much of the evidence in this case. Evidence that is complex, incomplete and sometimes conflicting. Even as early as 1964, rumors and serious concerns over  the lone gunman theory and the evidence that might contravene it,  were becoming a major concern for the government and the commission. Conspiracy theories were contrary to the government's stated narrative from the very beginning. Stay tuned as there are many more episodes to come!This series comprehensively explores the major facts,  themes, and  events leading up to the assassination in Dealey Plaza and the equally gripping stories surrounding the subsequent investigation. We  review  key elements of the Warren Commission Report , and the role of the CIA and FBI. We explore the  possible involvement of the Mafia in the murder and the review of that topic by the government's House Select Committee on Assassinations in the 1970's. We explore the Jim Garrison investigation and the work of other key figures such as Mark Lane and others. Learn more about Lee Harvey Oswald the suspected killer and Jack Ruby the distraught Dallas night club owner with underworld ties and the man that killed Oswald as a national TV audience was watching.  Stay with us as we take you through the facts and theories in bite sized discussions that are designed to educate, and inform as well as entertain the audience. This  real life story is more fascinating than fiction. No matter whether you are a serious researcher or a casual student, you will enjoy the fact filled narrative and story as  we relive one of the most shocking moments in American History. An event that changed the nation and changed the world forever.

JFK The Enduring Secret
Episode 114 A Shot At General Walker Part 2

JFK The Enduring Secret

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2022 35:57


Episode 114 is  the second and last  of a two episode miniseries covering  the attempted murder of General Edwin Walker in Dallas on April 10, 1963.  It was learned after the assassination of JFK,  that Lee Harvey Oswald was the likely perpetrator of the attempt on Walker's life, based on evidence found at Ruth Paine's home and testimony provided by Oswald's  wife after Oswald was murdered.  Walker was an ultra conservative and high profile former army general who was a member of the John Birch society and was expelled from the military for promulgating his ultra right wing views amongst service men.   The Warren commission identified this attempt on Walker's life by Oswald to be one of five stated factors that formed the possible motive for why Oswald killed the president, citing this as a prior act of violence where he demonstrated the willingness to attempt to murder a political figure using a  a rifle. Join us in this rather interesting story that, like other parts of the JFK assassination, has it's own twists and turns and mysterious elements.  Let us know  what you like about the podcast or just provide us with comments on the episode via  email at podcastjfk@gmail.com or get active in our blog for each episode at www.podcastjfk.com   Either way, keep listening, and join us for the whole series of episodes about the fantastic goings on that encompass this part of the JFK story. Our episodes have now begun  to explore  an array of matters that  dive into a deeper  darkness  related to what  went on that day in Dallas and in the  period before and after the assassination.  Matters   that possibly point  to a  wider  and more sinister  plot to kill the president and  that clearly call into question the theory that there was a  lone assassin.   Complex cases without  an eyewitness that can actually identify the shooter make the forensic and circumstantial evidence that much more important.  Ironically, problems abound with much of the evidence in this case. Evidence that is complex, incomplete and sometimes conflicting. Even as early as 1964, rumors and serious concerns over  the lone gunman theory and the evidence that might contravene it,  were becoming a major concern for the government and the commission. Conspiracy theories were contrary to the government's stated narrative from the very beginning. Stay tuned as there are many more episodes to come!This series comprehensively explores the major facts,  themes, and  events leading up to the assassination in Dealey Plaza and the equally gripping stories surrounding the subsequent investigation. We  review  key elements of the Warren Commission Report , and the role of the CIA and FBI. We explore the  possible involvement of the Mafia in the murder and the review of that topic by the government's House Select Committee on Assassinations in the 1970's. We explore the Jim Garrison investigation and the work of other key figures such as Mark Lane and others. Learn more about Lee Harvey Oswald the suspected killer and Jack Ruby the distraught Dallas night club owner with underworld ties and the man that killed Oswald as a national TV audience was watching.  Stay with us as we take you through the facts and theories in bite sized discussions that are designed to educate, and inform as well as entertain the audience. This  real life story is more fascinating than fiction. No matter whether you are a serious researcher or a casual student, you will enjoy the fact filled narrative and story as  we relive one of the most shocking moments in American History. An event that changed the nation and changed the world forever.

War College
We All Believe Conspiracy Theories

War College

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2022 39:05


Conspiracy Theories are part of the foundation of the United States. Our first strong third party, the Anti-Masonic party, had its roots in the belief in a conspiracy theory. Years later the John Birch society shaped American politics. Things feel different now. Lies are doing something to the United States that no foreign enemy has been able to achieve: Shredding it. The bizarre QAnon, imaginary purple elephant and, far more dangerous, the big lie of a stolen election.It's time to talk about our gaslit nation and what this conspiratorial bullshit means going forward.Joining us to do just that is Joseph Uscinski. He's professor of political science at the University of Miami. He's the coauthor of American Conspiracy Theories (Oxford, 2014) and editor of Conspiracy Theories and the People Who Believe Them (Oxford, 2018). And we're lucky to have him.Angry Planet has a substack! Join the Information War to get weekly insights into our angry planet and hear more conversations about a world in conflict.https://angryplanet.substack.com/subscribeYou can listen to Angry Planet on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or follow our RSS directly. Our website is angryplanetpod.com. You can reach us on our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/angryplanetpodcast/; and on Twitter: @angryplanetpod.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/warcollege. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Random Soundchecks
"Gun Sale at the Church" 2022-05-25 Random Soundcheck

Random Soundchecks

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2022 3:10


Beat Farmers, firing pins, and old John Birch.

Chrysalis with John Fiege
4. Adam Rome — An Historical Perspective on Our Environmental Future

Chrysalis with John Fiege

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2022 89:20


Each year, we celebrate Earth Day; and each year, our collective actions lead to more greenhouse gas emissions, more habitat destruction, and more species extinctions. It's hard for Earth Day not to feel like more of a superficial patting of ourselves on the back or a greenwashing opportunity for corporate sponsors than a serious call for transformative change. The first Earth Day, on April 22, 1970, was something totally different. With 12,000 events across the country and more than 35,000 speakers from every walk of life—young and old, scientists and preachers, liberals and conservatives—the transformative power of the first Earth Day, conceived as a teach-in rather than a rally or a protest, is hard for us to imagine in our contemporary era of stark political polarization, hashtag protests, and climate denial politics.Adam Rome is an environmental historian who digs deep into the historical record and emerges with profound insights about the first Earth Day and the origins of the environmental movement. His work reveals the vital importance of understanding our environmental history in order to forge a more promising environmental future.Adam Rome was my advisor many years ago when I studied environmental history and cultural geography in graduate school at Penn State. And now, I'm very happy that he's my good friend and colleague here at the University at Buffalo, where he's Professor of Environment and Sustainability. My conversation with Adam travels through history, long before and after the first Earth Day, from beaver hats in feudal Europe; to the post-WWII era of prosperity and suburban development; and up to the present, as he probes the business world's attempts to become more sustainable. You can listen on Substack, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other podcast platforms.Please rate, review, and share to help us spread the word!Adam RomeAdam Rome is professor of environment and sustainability at the University at Buffalo. A leading expert on the history of environmental activism, his first book, The Bulldozer in the Countryside: Suburban Sprawl and the Rise of American Environmentalism, won the Frederick Jackson Turner Award and the Lewis Mumford Prize. His book on the history of the first Earth Day, The Genius of Earth Day: How a 1970 Teach-In Unexpectedly Made the First Green Generation, was featured in The New Yorker. He is co-editor of Green Capitalism? Business and the Environment in the Twentieth Century. From 2002 to 2005, he edited the journal Environmental History. In addition to numerous scholarly publications, he has written essays and op-eds for a variety of publications, including Nature, Smithsonian, The Washington Post, Wired, and The Huffington Post. He has produced two Audible Original audio courses: “The Genius of Earth Day” and “The Enduring Genius of Frederick Law Olmsted.”Quotation read by Adam Rome“The question is whether any civilization can wage relentless war on life without destroying itself, and without losing the right to be called civilized.” — Rachel Carson, from Silent SpringRecommended Readings & MediaTranscription IntroJohn Fiege Each year we celebrate Earth Day. And each year our collective actions lead to more greenhouse gas emissions, more habitat destruction, and more species extinctions. It's hard for Earth Day not to feel like more of a superficial patting of ourselves on the back, or a greenwashing opportunity for corporate sponsors, then a serious call for transformative change.The first Earth Day on April 22, 1970 was something totally different. With 12,000 events across the country, and more than 35,000 speakers from every walk of life, young and old scientists and preachers, liberals and conservatives, the transformative power of the first Earth Day, conceived as a teaching rather than a rally or protest is hard for us to imagine in our contemporary era of stark political polarization, hashtag protests, and climate denial politics.Adam Rome is an environmental historian who digs deep into the historical record and emerges with profound insights about the first Earth Day in the origins of the environmental movement. His work reveals the vital importance of understanding our environmental history in order to forge a more promising environmental future.Adam Rome But mobilizing isn't organizing. And mobilizing isn't empowering. It doesn't take people new places, you know, and then you think about other you know, advertising isn't about teaching you anything. It's about getting you to buy, you know, something. Political messaging isn't about educating you. It's about getting you to vote for this guy or woman rather than that person. So, it's yes or no, you know, Earth Day, the original Earth Day was so much more complicated than that. It left it up to millions of individuals to say, what does this mean to me, what am I going to do? It didn't try to marshal them all in one direction, or to enlist them into a preexisting cause.John Fiege I'm John Fiege, and this is Chrysalis.Adam Rome was my advisor many years ago when I studied environmental history and cultural geography in graduate school at Penn State. And now I'm very happy that he's my good friend and colleague here at the University of Buffalo, where he's professor of Environment and Sustainability.My conversation with Adam travels through history long before and after the first Earth Day, from Beaver hats and feudal Europe to the post World War Two era of prosperity and suburban development, and up to the present, as he probes the business world's attempts to become more sustainable.Here is Adam Rome. ---Conversation John Fiege If you could just tell, tell me a bit about where you grew up, and about your relationship to the rest of nature when you were a kid.Adam Rome I grew up in West Hartford, Connecticut. The town itself is a couple 100 years old. But the particular house that I grew up in, was in a was built in the late 1950s. In what had been a golf course, for some reason, the golf course moved a mile away. And so, when I was growing up, the former golf course was being slowly developed. And in fact, I remember one day, I don't know how old I was maybe eight, seeing bulldozers come and knocking trees down on one of the nearby yards. That that was undeveloped still. And that I think was really crucial, even more than the wild are places that I used to hang out that a couple of friends and I would go in the wild parts, the still undeveloped parts of the old golf course. And back then parents weren't worried about their kids in the way they are now. So, my parents had a big cowbell on their front porch. And when it was, you know, 15 minutes to dinnertime, they would ring the cow bell, and I can hear it anywhere in the neighborhood and come home, and that's so idyllic. But it was a very typical 50s suburban neighborhood.John Fiege So, you, you went to college at Yale, and then you were a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, and then you landed in Kansas. Can you tell me the story of how you got to Kansas and what you did when you were there?Adam Rome Kansas interestingly, I'll answer your question in a second but, but I had a much much more overwhelming emotional response to the landscape in Kansas than I ever did to any place around where I grew up, you know, that that John FiegeWhy do you think that was? Adam Rome I think I I loved the vastness of the sky. I love the spectacular sunsets. I love watching clouds move through the sky. I mean, you know, there's there's no tall buildings even in the cities in Kansas, compared to the northeast. So, you could see forever. And another thing that I really loved was, especially in the Western two thirds of the state. Wherever there was a river, you could tell those 15 or 20 miles away, because that would be the only place there would be trees. Right. And I love that the landscape was so powerful a presence, everybody thought about it all the time.John Fiege So, you eventually landed at University of Kansas, studying environmental history under Dan Webster, who's one of the great minds and founders of the discipline. Tell me what you got what got you interested in environmental history? Had you done anything with that prior to graduate school? And how did you come with? How did you come to work with Don Wooster?Adam Rome Environmental history really didn't exist as a field. That or at least it was in its most infant stage. When I was in college, which was 1976 to 1980. I actually got introduced to Don's work and to one other really renowned, now renowned, environmental historian through this humanities project that I did, about the little-known historical places. One of them was a place that during the dustbowl years of the 1930s, when the great plains were decimated by these unbelievable windstorms that that made up, you know, parts of Kansas look like Cape Cod, the dunes on Cape Cod that I had seen as a kid, devastating dust storms. And the government tried to reclaim some of those lands, it was really a pioneering effort of environmental restoration or ecological restoration. And so, there was this Cimarron grasslands in the very southwest corner of the state. It was one of the little-known historical places that I wrote about. And the background work that I did for that involved Don Westers first prize winning book, which is just called Dustbowl, and that book blew me away, I never imagined that you could write a history that combined environmental history and political history. And it's really an effort to understand the dust storms not as a purely natural phenomenon, but it's something that had been partly, maybe even predominantly caused by human activity in the decades leading up to it. And I read that book and it blew me away. And then right after that, I discovered this one other book that had just come out by William Cronin called changes in the land, which is about Native Americans and English colonists in New England, and all the ways in which they changed the landscape that the colonists did. And it gave a new way of understanding why the colonists were able to supplant the natives. But it also had some brilliant ideas about basic ways that we think about, about nature.John Fiege  08:09Let's turn to your first book, which is the bulldozer in the countryside. And it's a powerful environmental history of suburbia in America and how after World War Two developers brought Henry Ford's assembly line concept to the production of cheap tract housing on cheap land, on the outskirts of cities across the country. I want to read a passage from the book, but first, could you talk about how the suburbs were created and give us a sense of the scale at which this transformation of the countryside took place?Adam Rome Well, first, you have to keep in mind that before World War Two, not counting farm areas, where homeownership was much more common. In cities, there never been a point where more than 40% of Americans owned their own home. And homebuilding in those decades. was was really a mom-and-pop kind of thing. I mean, it was it was a craft. It wasn't it wasn't an industry. A lot of home builders might only build one or two houses a year. So, after World War Two, most famously in Levittown, New York, and then several other Levittowns, but mimicked all across the country. People figured out a way to to turn to mass produce housing, and in order to do that, they also needed cheap land, and large tracts of cheap land. So, although some of these postwar subdivisions that were mass produced were within the boundaries of cities, most of them weren't because the land that was cheap and widely available was was outside the city limits, right and so on. and all kinds of new earth moving equipment, especially the bulldozer had come into common usage during World War Two. And it became possible to turn almost any kind of landscape, you know, a marsh, a steep hillside a forest, into a flat pad, that's like a technical term for building and then breaking down the construction process into, you know, I don't remember the exact number, but let's say 20 different components. So, you know, one crew would would just bring the wood for the roofing, you know, where another would just do the bathroom or, and they could do in the case of Levittown, you know, 17,000 houses in in, you know, a year or two, right. And, and so the new combination of the new mass production method of building houses, and then unbelievable pent-up demand for housing, because there'd been virtually no housing construction during the Great Depression in the 1930s. And then virtually no housing construction during World War Two, right, and then the baby boom after the war. So, you've got millions and millions of people desperate for places to live, they didn't necessarily want to live in the suburbs, but they wanted a place to live and an affordable place, it was often cheaper to buy a Levittown house than to rent an apartment in a city. So, these, and by the late 40s, early 50s 2 million homes a year are getting built, which is an astonishing number. I don't think it had ever been more than 400,000 in a year in American history up to that point. So, a territory the size of Rhode Island, basically, every year is getting turned into new subdivisions, mostly in suburbs. And that that was I write in my book that was in whatever else it was, it was an environmental disaster on the scale of the dust.John Fiege Right, right. Just clearing all that land. Yeah, I grew up in Greenbelt, Maryland, one of Eleanor Roosevelt's plans, communities. Yeah, from the 30s. From the 30s. There's kind of pre pre post war, suburban development, but it was right on the outskirts of Washington DC. And, you know, had a little bit more of a idyllic you know, communitarian feel to it than, than the later suburbs. So, with your book, let me let me read a quote you you quote, the writer, Margo Tupper. Oh, yes. Like millions of Americans moved with her family to the suburbs after World War Two in Maryland. Oh, really? Was that Maryland? Yeah, realize that. Oh, that's interesting. Well, let me read the quote. So, she might have been your neighbor. Yeah. Wow. I had no idea. So let me it's a kind of a long quote, but I think it's worth reading because it's so it's so rich. “At that time, our house was second from the last on the dead end street. Beyond were acres of untouched woodlands, which were a refuge for children, a place to play natural surroundings. Youngsters in the neighborhood would go there build dams or catch minnows and a little creek, gather wildflowers and pick blossoms from the white dog woods. They built tree houses, picnicked under the tall tulip trees, and dog Jack in the pulpits, wild Fern and Violets to transplant to their gardens. Then one day my little girl Jan ran into the house shouting, Mother, there's a bulldozer up the street. The men say they're going to cut down the trees. They can't do that. They're my trees. Where will we play? Please, Mother, please stop them. Jan ran frantically out the door shouting. I'll get Susan Georgie Sissy and all the other children. If they're going to take our woods away. We'll have to save all we can. The children returned several hours later, pulling wagons loaded with flowers and plants. Jan brought home a small dogwood tree and planted among the wildflowers in the South Garden. Indeed, the bulldozers did come, these huge Earth eating machines raped the woods filled up the creek, buried the wildflowers and frightened away the rabbits and the birds. The power saws came too and took part in the murder of the woodlands near our home. Dynamite blasted out the huge tree roots trucks roared past our house carrying the remains sections of murdered trees and tons of earth in which were buried vines, shrubs and flowers. Then the dozers came to level the earth and power shovels to dig grade holes in less than a month, the first of 200 look like closely set small all houses rose to take the place of our beautiful forest.” So, at the heart of your book is this great irony that the experience the experiences of suburbanites like Margot Tupper and her family, who witnessed the destruction, on the frontlines of suburban development firsthand out there, front windows, helped ignite the environmental movement. In the 1950s and 60s, the majority of women had not yet entered the labor force. And it was women in particular, who spearheaded the new environmental movement. Can you talk about what Margo is writing there? And how this played out?Adam Rome Yeah, so that book came out in 1965, as I recall, and at that point, there had already been, maybe I'd say, for six, seven years, mounting concern, for lots of reasons, but, but one of them was the destruction of places for kids to play. And, and yeah, there's a powerful irony that the house that she lived in, and in her daughter, and all the neighbors that her daughter played with, you know, that had been something wild too, before it was made into their house. And, you know, it might have been that, that an earlier generation would have cried about that, you know, earlier generation means, like a year or two before. And she herself was sensitive to that she doesn't, she doesn't want there to be no development at all. But she's part of a movement to try to imagine land saving ways of development, ways of having same number of people have places to live even single-family homes, but clustered together with much larger, open space that wasn't just yard but was truly Wilder. And that was, that's keeps getting rediscovered, by the way, you know, every, like, 10 years people, people realize, that's an interesting idea. It's never become the norm. But but, you know, my whole book is really about people coming to realize that what, and this is part of a broader story and world after World War Two, that, you know, we have all these amazing technological changes, and new products, new ways of doing things that, that seemed miraculous, they allow us to, to have comfort and convenience and, and wealth on a scale that we hadn't imagined before. But they turned out to also have incredibly bad, unexpected environmental costs. And so, my book is really the story of how people try to come to terms with that, how do they try to reduce the cost of suburban development? Without ending it, you know, that they weren't saying no development at all? No one was, but But trying to figure out ways of meeting the need. And, and even that's an interesting question, you know, what, what do we need and housing? What is a good house? But how do you do that at at much less environmental costs. And it turned out that, you know, I was really stunned. I didn't think anyone would have been thinking about that until the 1970s. After the first Earth Day, and after the, you know, the whole environmental movement is obviously roaring along. But in fact, I found that even in the midst of World War Two people were beginning to find fault with some aspects of this new way of building and with each decade, more and more of these horrid side effects come to light and some of them become only of concern to experts. But open space, in particular led to real grassroots activism, real grassroots protests, and a new language. You know, she writes about rape. And no one had talked like that before, not even John Muir, when he was talking about the destruction of wild spaces. He came close but but this was so much more intimate than, you know, some spectacular place in Yosemite Valley getting destroyed for a damn this, this was your backyard. This was the place your kid played. And people start putting the word progress in quotation marks, you know, that, that it's not obvious to them anymore that that that these new homes are, are just purely good. So that's something radically new.John Fiege Yeah, and you bring up property rights in the book and kind of relates So what you're saying about Margo tuber being part of this movement to have more land and common open space. And the new ecological thinking that emerged in this era began to challenge and redefine property rights. Can you? Can you talk a little bit about that, and how that became a central issue and the struggle to protect ecological health?Adam Rome Yeah, this was another huge surprise to me. That, you know, with pollution, it's obvious that the, the biggest polluters are businesses. And, and so challenging corporate polluters is part of a long tradition of trying to rein in corporate power. But there aren't, you know, billions of corporations or millions of corporations, there's, there's only hundreds of really big ones, with with property, millions and millions of people own property. And it had been part of American history, that owning property was easy here, which it wasn't in Europe, and ordinary people could own property. And they could do with it, whatever they wanted. That, you know, that was one of the great freedoms of America in the minds of many people that came here from Europe. And by the 1960s, people are coming to realize, not just with homebuilding with development of all kinds that the way you use your land, couldn't really be entirely private decision, because it had consequences beyond the boundaries of your property. And, and people talked about this in the 60s as a quiet revolution, the growing awareness, both in the courts and in state legislatures, and in national forums, that, that how you use your land, how you developed it, especially could have far reaching detrimental consequences to the public good. And that, therefore, the public ought to have some say in what you did, didn't necessarily mean that it would, that it would bar you from doing certain things, although people said that to you know, in the same way that you're not allowed to sell tainted meat, you know, you shouldn't be able to build in a wetland, if that's going to cause flooding somewhere else. Or you shouldn't be able to build on a hillside, if that's going to endanger people who own property lower down the hill, or, you know, any number of things of that kind, where how you use the land could have far reaching implications beyond your borders. And, you know, that idea then, eventually led to a powerful counterattack. People talked about it, as you know, the new regulations that come in the 1960s and early 70s, as a new feudalism, the opponents called it so Feudalism was, you know, pre capitalist way of thinking about rights and responsibilities that came with land ownership, and only a few people could use it. And they, you know, they had to use it in a way that serve the community, whether they wanted to or not. So that's part of the powerful cause the rise of modern conservatism part of the rise of Ronald Reagan, was this idea that, that among those who own property that that didn't accept that idea that it was really a matter of public interest. They wanted to go back to the days when they could do whatever they wanted with their land.John Fiege  23:36Right, right. Oh, that's so interesting. And I love the title of your book, The Bulldozer in the Countryside. It paints such a vivid visceral image. And and you mentioned somewhere that that echoes The Machine in the Garden, the book by Leo marks, can you talk about that book and how it relates to your work?Adam Rome Yeah, Leo Marx. I'm not sure if he's still alive. I did meet him. He was a professor for a long time at MIT. And I did meet him when I spoke there more than a decade ago. But he wrot e this brilliant book, it's one of the most famous books that any American scholar has ever written in the humanities, called the machine in the garden. And it's a study of the literary responses in America, although it starts with Shakespeare in The Tempest. So, imagining America to the spread of technology of development of modern civilization into seemingly pristine areas. And, and, and, and for much of early American history, people just thought that was great, you know, that was fulfilling a biblical injunction to subdue the earth to write to make to make the wild spaces into a productive garden. But by the time of Thoreau, and others in the, you know, 1830s 1840s 1850s people are starting to have at least a very elite, well-educated group of artists and writers, more mixed feelings about that they, they, they know it's part of America's destiny seemingly to transform the wilderness, but they also lament some of the consequences of that. And, and The Machine in the Garden in in Leo Marxs is the railroad, that that was the great symbol. Once the railroad came, everything was going to change. And and the railroad goes right through Concord, Thoreau could hear it. Nathaniel Hawthorne can hear it. So, I took that image. And actually, the publisher didn't like the title. I had to really...John Fiege Oh really?  Adam Rome yeah, John Fiege wow. Adam RomeIf it was, if it was a trade press, I would have lost they would have been able to title what they want, but because it was a university press, I won.John Fiege Great. Well, moving on from the suburbs. Let's talk about Rachel Carson, who's one of my heroes.Adam RomeMine too. John FiegeYou wrote an article about her legacy that began this way. “In the decades after World War Two, many Americans imagined that modern technology finally would free humanity from the constraints and burdens of nature. We would overcome disease, moderate the extremes of climate, travel great distances in a flash and enjoy abundance of all kinds. Detergents will get clothes cleaner than clean. Nuclear Fission would generate electricity too cheap to meter. Plastics, seemingly inexhaustible, and infinitely malleable, would end our dependence on scarce natural resources. Bulldozers would transform marshes and steep hillsides into buildable land. Soon we would live on a perfected Earth where everything was easy, comfortable, and safe.” And then enter Rachel Carson, and her nineteen's landmark 1962 book, Silent Spring. What did she bring to that mentality that was really dominant in the 50s, and 60s?Adam Rome It's, you know, because we live in a post Rachel Carson world, it's so hard in some ways to imagine just how gung ho people were, especially Americans, but it wasn't it wasn't unique to us. After World War Two, the idea that, that we that we could conquer nature, that we could overcome any natural limit. And, you know, because nowadays, we we all think we love nature. But we're never as honest as we should be about the fact that there are a lot of elements of nature that we don't love, maybe even hate. And, and a lot of those are limits. most obvious one is death, you know. But that was another thing that people thought they could conquer, you know, that they thought modern medicine might allow a kind of immortality almost. Right. So, there's this tremendous faith that in the 50s and 60s that we're bringing nature under control, and that we are, you know, incredibly rapidly overcoming all these natural limits. And, and Rachel Carson is probably the, I mean, lots of people began to have doubts about that. But I would say she is by far the most powerful voice. And it's so amazing. It's just this lone voice, this one woman, she had no institutional by the time she wrote Silent Spring, she's just a writer. John Fiege RightAdam Rome She has no institutional support. And she's taking on one of the most powerful industries in the country. And she's taking on even more powerfully, this whole way of thinking about what our relationship to nature should be, and saying, no, it can't possibly be conquest. You know, nature is bigger than us. We can't conquer nature. And when we try, we may get a lot out of it in the short run, but in the long run, where we're risking undermining the foundations of our life. And and her warning is about that they were specifically about the new chemical pesticides that came into wide use after World War Two like DDT, but but she was really attacking much more broadly a whole kind of technological hubris of thinking that we could change nature in any way and that it would just be for the good, you know, it would be better we could make a better nature than nature had made. And she said that preposterous. And ultimately, it threatens our survival. But even if it didn't threaten our survival, it also was you know, she had different adjectives for it an immature way of thinking, a brute way of thinking, an immoral way of thinking, you know, that, that she too was saying we could do better. That's not our best self, our best self would be finding a way to to thrive while everything else also thrives.John Fiege Right. But you do point out that despite the huge impact of Silent Spring, and the government regulation and pesticides that followed, you write, we use more pesticides now than in 1962. Adam RomeYeah. John Fiege And which makes me think, like, has the change been in our mentality and our actions? Or has it been in our messaging and our vision of ourselves? Like, have we covered things up, but not really dealt with the underlying problems that continue in different forms?Adam Rome So, so one of the reasons why pesticide use is up, it's not just up in the US. But lot of other parts of the world have developed industrialized agriculture that relies heavily on pesticides. And, and, and that's true about a lot of things, you know, our air is cleaner, our water is cleaner. But that's partly because we don't make stuff here as much as we used to, it's made in China or Vietnam or wherever. Yeah, their air is not cleaner. There, you know, we've exported, we've exported our pollution. Yeah, we've outsourced our pollution, as well as a lot of our manufacturing jobs. And, you know, I go back and forth about this, I have a split personality. On the one hand, I'm Dr. Earth Day. You know, so I, I've spent a lot of time thinking about environmental activism in the US in the last 150 years, and how much more powerful environmental activists have become than they were. And that's an inspiring story, you know, but then the other side of me is Mr. Apocalypse, you know, all the ways in which things just keep getting worse, or at least they're still incredibly threatening. John Fiege RightAdam Rome And, and I'm trying to understand why, you know, without understanding why we can't possibly hope to, to avoid those outcomes.John Fiege So that's a great place to jump to your next book, which is The Genius of Earth Day, with a subtitle “How a 1970 Teach-In Unexpectedly Made the First Green Generation.” Can you paint a picture for us of the state of the environment on the eve of the first Earth Day on April 22, 1970?Adam Rome Yeah, it's so hard to imagine now, just how much more polluted visibly polluted the country was in 1970. You know, every city was just full of smoke of all kinds. And, you know, smoke from, from burning trash from incinerators, folks, from utilities, from manufacturers, on and on cement places. The waters were just horrid. You know, you couldn't swim in most urban rivers and many, even rural ones. You couldn't eat the fish safely. You couldn't do a lot of other recreational things, you know that the waters would smell they'd be, they might be acidic, they might even burn you if you fell in. You certainly couldn't drink them. And there was no regulation of waste disposal of any kind, not just ordinary trash, but hazardous what we now call hazardous waste. That phrase hadn't been invented yet. There was no regulation of it. So people could just dump incredibly toxic stuff wherever they wanted. And even, you know, things you you can barely imagine when I was in Kansas, canoeing down the biggest river in the middle of the state, which in Kansas is called our Kansas, of course. You know, you'd see rusted hawks of cars on the riverbanks, you know, that people would take out the few valuable parts of the car that they could sell and, and then they just dump them on the riverbank, and they were sitting there decades later. So, you know, everywhere people were aware that this wasn't like news. You could see it every day. But what was missing was the will to do something about it, it had always been considered the price of progress. You know, as part of a booming economy, we had to put up with pollution, especially in cities. And finally in 1970, after, you know, growing discontent that leads to the modern environmental movement, and to the first Earth DayJohn Fiege On January 18, 1970, Senator Nelson's environmental Teaching Committee took out a full page ad in the New York Times, announcing the upcoming event for the first time, it read in large font, April 22, Earth Day, and then it went on "A disease has infected our country, it has brought smog to Yosemite, dumped garbage in the Hudson, sprayed DDT in our food and left our cities in decay. The carrier is man”. Can you tell me the story of how earth day got its name? But how the idea of the teach-in that Senator Nelson had remained foundational to to the concept of what Earth Day was.Adam Rome So, Nelson. And he never wrote down anything about the aha moment when he had the seed of the idea that became Earth Day, but apparently, he was flying back to Washington and having gone out to California to see about six months after the devastation in the wake of the first unfortunately, only the first great oil spill in Santa Barbara. And he read about is a tactic that was used by people who were opposed to the Vietnam War called the a teaching, which was essentially a kind of politicized extracurricular, curricular activity on a couple dozen college campuses in the mid 60s, where opponents of the war and proponents of the war would come together and argue, was organized by the opponents, they were convinced that that would inspire people to to action that it would mobilize them against the war. And Nelson was he he was one of the first senators to oppose the war. That was one of his most courageous moves. But he was inspired by that he thought, you know, maybe the President has failed on this Congress has failed in this, maybe young people could could really carry the ball and make the environment a national priority. So, he, he promised in Seattle in September 1969, that he would organize a nationwide environmental teaching. And, and at first, he was only envisioning it as some small number of campuses, only on college campuses. But and he didn't know anything about how to do this, you know, he's at that point was a 53-year-old establishment figure. He wasn't some young Radster. And he rejected the advice that he got from a good friend that he did, he tried to make it a hierarchical top-down kind of thing. Instead, he decided basically, anyone who wanted to have a teaching could have it and they could do anything they wanted. And he just trusted that that would work out that that that would involve a lot of people, and they would do great things. And he was right. And quickly, this overwhelmed his staff, there was a lot more interest in it than he expected. And K to 12 schools got into it. And then people in communities wanted to have events that weren't tied to educational institutions. So, he hires this, this small number of 20-somethings who had been activists mostly and other causes in the 60s, to help him organize it. And, and, and they found this hipster ad guy in New York, Julian Koenig, who was willing, pro bono to come up with better names they thought environmental teaching sounded too academic. Even Nelson's adviser thought that but that he wasn't able to come up with a better name. And and Julian Koenig comes up with the name Earth Day and then this really blows me away this is part of Gaylord Nelson genius was he really he really didn't try to micromanage soJohn Fiege Right Adam Rome These 20 Somethings decide earth day is a much better name and they take out this ad and as far as I could tell they never asked him whether that was okay. They just did and then they changed the name of the of the you know, they weren't technically for this not for profit that Nelson set up called Environmental Teaching Inc. They couldn't legally change the name but they they changed the name on the stationery and everything else to environmental action. You know, again, they were trying to suggest that, that they were about action and protest and transforming America. But but the teach-in ideas still was very, very powerful. And most Earth Day events were places that people talked about these issues, it was an unprecedented discussion that involved, you know, potentially 20 million people. And 10s of 1000s of speakers, who had most had never spoken publicly about environmental issues. And these discussions were very intimate. Some of them were soul searching in the words of the New York Times, and the media to got into it. So, you have all this media discussion, unprecedented media coverage, and then you have these much more intimate settings where people are talking about these issues. And together, that was transformative. I think a lot of people thinking about these issues for the first time realized they cared about them a lot. And they were willing to do a lot to try to solve the problems and to keep doing it, often for decades.John Fiege And, you know, I'm really struck by, you know, you already mentioned this, but his willingness to let go, and the profound significance that had, and I just wanted to kind of revisit that, because particularly from today's today's perspective, it's almost impossible to imagine a US senator, starting something like this, and then just being like, Ah, I'll let it go have a life of its own. And I'll put the kids in charge. And hopefully, it's, it's a thing, but you know, I'm not gonna micromanage it like, that doesn't happen.Adam Rome No, no, I agree. And he didn't just let it go. I mean, he worked like hell, John Fiege right Adam Rome to publicize it, and to raise money for the staff and to, John Fiege right, Adam Rome you know,John Fiege But his, his ego didn't seem to get in the way.Adam Rome He didn't think of it as his thing. And I think, the way I've put it as he led by encouraging other people to lead, and that was brilliant. And, and you're right, especially in politics, that's so rare. You know, most people in politics want to be the center of attention. And, and he didn't. And in fact, you know, the New York Times, the day after day, the man of the man of the day was the 20, something guy that he had hired Denis Hayes, not Gaylord Nelson. But but it was actually Gaylord Nelson, that set the whole thing in motion. And so, I think that that modesty is so amazing. And that, that, that, you know, and I again, I don't know whether this was just a brilliant intuition on his part, or whether it was a little more carefully thought out, but, but I think he understood that it would be more powerful if a lot of other people could take ownership of it, if they could make it their own. And they did. And that was one of the biggest discoveries in the book for me is how many people all across the country had the idea to do this and spent months and months working on it. And, and those months and months were incredibly transformative for many of them. And they were not just an education on the issues, but people realized they had all kinds of skills they didn't think they had, or they had a passion they didn't realize they had. And and so many of those Earth Day organizers come away after Earth Day thinking, I want to keep doing something like this. And there were there were no, you know, books with hundreds and hundreds of eco jobs that you could just pick, you know, there were only a handful of things that were well established careers, and anything remotely to do with the environment. And a lot of these Earth Day organizers and many other people that just participated in Earth Day, they go out, they pioneer new career paths, they create new kinds of jobs and new kinds of organizations and new new ways of being, you know, an architect or a journalist or a professor, for that matter, to to continue to work on this and that that was only because they had already invested so much of themselves in the Earth Day.John Fiege Yeah, and the scale of the first Earth Day is amazing. It generated 12,000 events across the country and more than 35,000 speakers. And, and you write, that this first Earth they brought opposites together in powerful ways. Can you talk about how this big tent of unusual combinations of people gave us Earth Day?Adam RomeWell, it was a big tent and that too, is a almost inconceivable now in or was celebrated everywhere, right red states, blue states purple states. A lot of the places that I ended up writing about in the book are, you know, diehard Trump country now Alabama, you know, Montana, they had incredible Earth Day of events. And so part of it was that it was much more bipartisan than you can imagine. But I think one of the places where it brought people together was it combined the power of the establishment, you know, Gaylord Nelson could open doors, he could do lots of things, with the energy and the creativity of the grassroots. That was incredible. And that was so different than some of the other huge events of the 60s that were either more establishment or more grassroots than Earth Day, which was both. It also brought together young and old. And that was, again, something I didn't think about initially, but was hugely important, because that was a time, you couldn't take that for granted. I mean, a lot of old folks looked at college kids in thought troublemaker. And a lot of kids under 30 looked at old folks and said, can't trust them. You know, right. But Earth Day brought together intergenerational collaboration, all kinds of folks and again, at the national level, but also at the grassroots. And, and again, as I mentioned, a few minutes ago, I think this, it created this unprecedented debate about what people started calling the environmental crisis. And the debate didn't take place purely in the media or purely face to face, it was both. And I think that made it more powerful than it would have been in either of those places alone. And I think there's a lesson in that for our social media age, powerful as social media is it can't do some of the mobilizing, and the educating and the life changing things that the face-to-face conversation and the face-to-face planning of Earth Day. accomplished.John Fiege Right. So, I've always, to me, it's always been strange that the environment is such a political politicized issue, as if pollution and ecological destruction don't affect everybody. And I just when I read you talking about the kind of, you know, specifically democratic liberal intellectuals theorizing about this as like, is that part of the DNA of how we understand the environment, and therefore, it's so politicized in this country as a result?Adam Rome It wasn't, though in 1970. And in the same way, and and even conservatives, except for the most hardcore, you know, the John Birch are far far, far far right, folks, or the, you know, the totally southern segregationist forever, conservatives. Even most conservatives understood that pollution was a real problem, you know, there weren't deniers, then. They they disagreed sometimes with liberals. And as I said, there were liberal Republicans as well as liberal Democrats, right, about what to do about it. But there were a lot of conservatives that spent a lot of time in 1970, trying to figure out what would be a conservative approach? Is there a way to address these issues without big government? And, and so for example, there were people talking about global warming wasn't an issue, yet someone was talking about carbon tax, but there were people talking about pollution taxes, you know, that part of the problem was the market didn't force businesses to pay for the pollution that, but if they did have to pay for it, then they would reconstitute their way of doing things. So, they produced less pollution that was the market. Right. You know, there were conservatives talking about that, in 1970. And I think a couple you know, you there's a whole book about how the Republicans went from supportive to totally opposed, or almost totally opposed. But But I think the biggest thing that happened was, and this is another irony, you know, that modern environmentalism comes out of the prosperity of the post war years, right, and the prosperity is causing a lot of the problems, but it's also creating the political will to do something about them. And and then in 1973, more or less, the post war economic boom comes to an end and and the whole rest of the decade is full of economic turmoil, in fact, unprecedented, you know, high unemployment and high inflation which was supposed to be impossible, that the same, right and, and no one seems to be able to do anything about it. So, in that in that context, it suddenly becomes possible to have people argue again, what, wait a minute, we can't afford to keep going in this direction. Or, you know, these regulations are an onerous burden. By 1980, you know, you have Ronald Reagan saying he's going to undo all the environmental initiatives of the 70s. He doesn't, he can't. But he tries. And he has a lot of support for that that was inconceivable even five years before 10 years before.John Fiege Totally. You write: "Earth Day was an educational experience, as well as a political demonstration, that rare combination enabled Earth Day to have both long term and short-term impact". In the book, you tell this wonderful story of the San Mateo high school in California and its biology teacher, Edmund Home, who mentored students in the ecology club as they plan their Earth Day teaching. What happened there in those interactions between the teacher and his students? And what does it reveal about what the nature of the first Earth Day was?Adam Rome Yeah, so that's one of my favorite stories. I'm glad it struck you too. And that's the sort of thing Gaylord Nelson himself didn't envision, you know, he didn't originally envision high schools doing anything. But, but at this high school in Santa Monica, the teacher was a nature lover. But all the kids in the ecology club, most of them weren't, they were just interested in math and science. And they thought this was a cool thing. The way to be less nerdy was also something that appealed to some of the civic minded people in the school. So they're, you know, student body president, cheerleaders. You know, they met the teacher and the students over lunch, initially, just once a week for months, to talk about, you know, what, what would in environmental teach-in at their school be. And they had the total support of the principal. And, and those discussions in themselves, some of the participants told me were empowering, you know, that they weren't the kids weren't used to having an adult, listen seriously to their ideas about what they might do about anything. Right. And, and then, you know, they had to start doing the planning and figure out who might speak and what the activities were going to be. And you know, whether any of it was going to be funny, even though these were deadly, serious subjects, they decided they wanted humor. And, you know, they had to decide whether to address politically difficult issues, like population growth, which meant talking about sex, which you weren't supposed to do without permission. And, you know, they do all this interesting stuff. And as it gets closer to April 22, then they start, you know, the key organizer start meeting with, with the teacher at home every day. And again, you know, they he didn't tell him what to do. He had some suggestions, but it was their deal. But he, he nurtured them, he gave them the sense that they could do it. And so many people told me that not just the high school kids that I talked about a lot of the college and graduate school organizers to that, that it was empowering to work on this, that they they came away with it with this can-do sense that anything was possible.John Fiege It's so unusual. Adam RomeYeah. John Fiege To have an experience like that, that profound at that age. Adam RomeYeah. John Fiege So, you know, the institutional achievements in the wake of the first Earth Day are really remarkable. The formation of EPA and the passage of the Clean Air Act in 1970, the Clean Water Act in 1972, the Endangered Species Act of 1973, all under a Republican administration, no less. But in 1990, just after climate change, became a widely publicized environmental concern. There was a 20th anniversary celebration of Earth Day. It was also a huge event with more professional planning, better funding, and a more focused message than in 1970. But it didn't lead to an environmental decade that confronted climate change or any other environmental issues. And as the first birthday had, as you write, can you talk a bit about Earth Day 1990. And what it reveals about how remarkable and achievement the first Earth Day was, and what lessons we might draw from those differences.Adam Rome It's interesting. I often hesitate to talk about the personalities involved, but So Dennis Hayes, and he was the guy Dennis Hayes, who, who was the main force behind Earth Day 1990, the 20th anniversary. So, Dennis Hayes was was not Gaylord Nelson. And Denis Hayes, I think drew exactly the wrong lesson. And he's gone on to do incredibly interesting important things as an environmentalist. But the lesson that he drew was top down. And and so an Earth Day 1990 It had, you know, I don't remember the exact numbers, but let's say 20 or 30 times the budget of the first Earth Day, it had all these political consultants and Hollywood gurus and advertising mavens working pro bono, on their on their messaging and polling and tie in merchandise and getting celebrities involved. And, you know, so they made the mistake, I think of of hoping that they could just mobilize people. But mobilizing isn't organizing. And mobilizing isn't empowering. It doesn't take people new places, you know, and then you think about other you know, advertising isn't about teaching you anything, it's about getting you to buy, you know, something. Political messaging isn't about educating you; it's about getting you to vote for this guy or woman rather than that person. So, it's yes or no, you know, Earth Day, the original Earth Day was so much more complicated than that it left it up to millions of individuals to say, what does this mean to me, what am I going to do? It didn't try to marshal them all in one direction, or to enlist them into a preexisting cause. Earth Day 1990 Did Did those other things, it tried to get people to join groups that already existed, and they did. Environmental groups reached their new heights of membership in the wake of Earth Day 1990. And it certainly heightened the message that individuals what they consumed mattered. But I don't think, you know, when you go to a March, that's very powerful. But it's not necessarily life transforming, it's not right to change the way you think. And the same thing when you go into the voting booth. So, taking politics and marketing as your models, that was a mistake. And they got a lot of people involved way more even than the first Earth Day and they made it global. But they didn't understand that the deepest change comes from the empowerment, that's a much slower process and requires more give and take, you know, it's not just getting the message out, and then having people hear it and do something.John Fiege I want to turn to your most recent work, which revolves around business and the environment. With much of your recent writing, you're asking whether it's possible to green capitalism, and if so, what does that look like? you frame the question this way:  "At one extreme critics of capitalism dismiss all corporate talk of sustainability as greenwashing as a way to distract people from the fundamental destructiveness of the system. At the other extreme, the boosters of green business take for granted that sustainability is the inevitable next stage of the evolution of the market. Neither view is historically grounded". Why not?Adam Rome It's really definitional. So, if you can define capitalism, a variety ways, but some of the ways of defining capitalism make it just theoretically impossible that it could ever be green. So there, they don't they're not drawing on any historical data. It's a theoretical argument. The other argument, the booster argument, I'd say the historical record already clearly disproves. Capitalism is not just going to evolve, right, to a more sustainable thing. There are all kinds of reasons why, why the people that even that have tried the hardest to green, their businesses or their industries haven't been able to do it. So, if there's any chance of capitalism becoming green, the historical record, I would say so far, says it can only happen if there's powerful movement, a social movement, a political movement, that rewrites the rules that the change is what guides business. So that, that the default for business becomes doing the green thing rather than the exception.John Fiege Right. Let's talk about a specific example. You write about DuPont. And, you know, at some point in the late 80s, early 90s, DuPont kind of decided to start to lead the way in terms of environmental sustainability. And you really asked the question of how far can the company realistically go and how much can they truly fulfill this idea of, of sustainability, can you tell a little bit about the story of what happened with DuPont and what you drew from that?Adam Rome Sure. And so, it's 1989 that they have a new CEO, Edgar Willard. And he says, we need a new corporate environmentalism that's pretty much a phrase that he coined. And to think that they, they have to go in the phrase of the day beyond compliance. They can't just do what the law requires. That they they'll for all kinds of business reasons, they have to actually do better. They have to start thinking about how to green operations. And that's not just true for manufacturing firms, although it was manufacturers and particularly heavily polluting manufacturers that got the message first. So, I had already been thinking about what's the environmental impact of a company like DuPont, and how has it changed over time, and then I noticed that their CEO, Edgar Willard, becomes this national focal point, for an effort to try to create a corporate environmentalism and the next long serving CEO and board chairman of DuPont, Chad Holliday also becomes a national international leader in this movement. And for him, the key phrase was sustainable growth that he tries to envision to reorient the whole company toward some new areas that he foresaw as great needs if we were to become a more sustainable society. And both of them do real things that are, were hard. And in some cases, I would even say courageous. And they make dramatic improvements in certain ways. But in other ways, they totally fall short and the most egregious of their efforts that are non-efforts. Something that predated either of them that one of their iconic products at DuPont was Teflon —still is— and making Teflon involved a chemical usually just called C8, that they didn't make themselves three M made it and they bought it from 3M. But well before Willard comes into office. 3M begins to think C8 is not safe, or it could be hazardous in certain circumstances. They weren't DuPont. And DuPont has some serious internal debate about this. And they decide not to do anything differently than then. And and, and neither Edgar Willard nor Chad Holliday ever reconsiders that decision. In fact, they do the opposite when, when evidence of how dangerous it is to use C8 and and how C8 has escaped from their factory in West Virginia and is polluting the water and is polluting nearby land where they were dumping waste. They doubled down 3M eventually decides it's not going to make C8 anymore. And DuPont instead of finding an alternative builds their own C8 factory in North Carolina. And all of this is secret. This only comes out as a result of a miraculous series of circumstances, all of which could have easily not happened that allow an attorney Rob Billot to slowly build the evidence of how much DuPont knew, how great lengths they went to keep it secret, how they didn't make decisions that they easily could have made that wouldn't have even been that expensive, that could have avoided an environmental catastrophe. And the more interesting discovery in some way for me with DuPont was they they tried to create sustainable alternative to artificial fibers like polyester and nylon. And they tried to create a sustainable biofuel as an alternative to gasoline and for that matter, ethanol. And they put a huge amount of effort into it. And and they didn't get the results out of it, the financial results out of it that they hoped. And I think that's a key part of the puncturing of the balloon of the boosters, is that, you know, they make it sound like if people just had the will, they could create all these green new products and people would buy them and they'd make money. Green is Gold is the title of one book. It's not that simple. First of all, it's not always clear what is more sustainable product is and most companies don't have any expertise in thinking about this. So, they make mistakes but the market, the fundamental flaws of capitalism mean that greener products are always competing against things that are cheaper but dirtierJohn Fiege right, and then the public absorbs the costs, right? Environmental cost.Adam Rome Exactly. And, and some of those products can still find a niche, you know, like the Prius, or, you know, early on certain kinds of organic food. But a niche doesn't change the world, John Fiege RightAdam Rome and it and it also doesn't make enough money for big multinationals like DuPont that are publicly listed corporations to satisfy the shareholders... Right, and the shareholders rebelled. So, DuPont doesn't exist anymore. And part of what the part of what the shareholders the activist shareholders were rebelling against was the R&D Enterprise, which, which is crucial to sustainability. If you have to only think three months ahead, you're not going to be developing a lot of sustainable products, the things that DuPont was trying to do took a decade or more. And that's hard, even even if it's just a standard product, but especially if it's something that's trying to anticipate what would really be greener, 10 years from now. But, you know, the market doesn't reward that it rewards quick and dirty returns, not long-term farsighted thinking.John Fiege And you make this, this point that I think is really powerful that, you know, there, there are two different types of making business more sustainable, there are things like reducing waste, and being more efficient. And and using fewer materials, those things are all beneficial environmentally, they also make the cost of doing business less right there, they save money for the company. And companies have very enthusiastically taken that side of kind of eco thinking on and and often advertised how great they are for doing that. But there are other things that actually make the cost of doing business much higher, and things more difficult and more risky and less likely to to produce shareholder value. And those are the those are the things that companies haven't done well at all Adam Rome Right.John Fiege I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about that. And what you've seen with DuPont and otherAdam Rome Right, so those those win-wins, where it's environmentally better, and it's more profitable, are usually in the category of what's come to be called Eco efficiencies. And even those aren't always easy. That was another lesson for me and DuPont was Woolard pushes his scientists as researchers to find ways to reduce waste. And in their initial response is pushback. No, we can't do that. Are you crazy? If you know if we could do that we would have done it already. It's going to cost more or it's technically impossible. But a lot of times thinking outside the box, in fact, allowed these win-win solutions, these eco efficiencies. And sometimes the savings were gargantuan, really. John Fiege Right. Adam Rome And, and it's not all just in production processes. You know, Xerox, realized that it could take back copiers and use the parts in the copiers to quote remanufactured copiers. And that would save them a lot of money. And it was and then they realized it would save them even more if the copiers were designed from the beginning to be disassembled and reused like that. And that was, you know, hundreds and hundreds of million dollars a year of savings. But only, you know, someone had to prod them to do that. So, it takes leadership. But then there are all these harder things were in the current business model. They're not likely to to be as rewarding as the alternatives. And at the worst extreme, you know, there are incentives in the market right now, to make climate change worse, you know, there are lots of ways not just a fossil fuel, people can profit from some of the things that are going on, rather than trying to solve the problem. So, if your actual goal is a green economy, whether it's a capitalist one or any other kind of one, then the rules have to change fundamentally the way we understand what business is and what it does, and what its responsibilities are having to change fundamentally. Because we're never going to get to a sustainable economy. If some things pay, and some don't that are greenJohn Fiege RightAdam Rome Everything has to be paid to be green, or we have to get to a system where that's not the standard judgment anymore.John Fiege Yeah, yeah. You've also done some really fascinating work around fashion as a driver of consumption, environmental destruction. Could you talk a bit about the story of the Beaver, and kind of the the ascendant merchant class in Europe and the wide-ranging impacts of the fashion aspirations on on rivers, meadows, wetlands in North America, that kind of thing.Adam Rome The reason fashion looms so large for me was you know, there's only so much that you can eat or drink. No matter how wealthy you are, you know, there's, there's a biological limit. And, and that's true for a lot of other things that we consume, but, but fashion creates this potentially unlimited demand, that, that if something goes out of style, and you're no longer willing to use it, even if it's perfectly functional in every other way, and then you buy something new, that's, that's an unbelievable demand on resources, to have, essentially insatiable appetites. And it started with clothing, and especially with the beaver hat, that became a fashion item in Europe, and then and then in the US. But in the 20th century, it's expanded to lots of other things, you know, your, your smartphone is a fashion item, Apple is a fashion company, in many ways, you know, cars became fashion items, and were sold on style, as much as anything else. And so many other things have become like that, that that's become a major form of marketing is to get you to be dissatisfied with what you have, because it no longer is cool, right, and then to junk it and get something else and, and, and that cycle is incredibly destructive, but it starts with beaver. The poor Beaver, you know, their pelt happened to be really good for making hats better than wool, which was the alternative, you know, it was easier to shape, and it was water resistant, and it was easier to dye in it. And it was more expensive. So, it also therefore was more of a status object. And, you know, at the beginnings of modern capitalism, the rising merchant class wanted to have a way of showing that they were important and, and having stylish attire, and especially stylish hats was part of it. And as a result, all the Beaver in Europe is wiped out except for the very far reaches of Siberia, then the New World, new to Europe, at least, is opened up to exploitation. And there's lots of beaver in the northern US and in Canada. And over the course of the centuries, the Beaver is nearly wiped out in North America. All to satisfy this never-ending demand for stylish new hats.John Fiege It always struck me as kind of the perfect example of what environmental history is. Because not only did this fashion sense in Europe, originally, wipe out the Beaver for the most part in North America. But because beavers were no longer making dams, then it changed the dynamics of the rivers. Adam Rome Right.John Fiege and it destroyed wetlands. And it it changed the dynamics of whether there were meadows or not. And this, this very lofty idea of fashion and what people thought of themselves, in a, in a distant land in Europe, had these very real and immediate environmental impacts on the landscape in North America. And that, to me, that seems to be such a perfect encapsulation of the power of what environmental history is combining those two things.Adam Rome You're right, you know, that's part of the

PIJN NEWS
Keeping Jesus Close In The Deep and Beyond

PIJN NEWS

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 28:30


Jim Sandman of US Submarine Veterans Shares His Testimony and Ministry and the John Birch society. Finally, Jim Shares about His Book; Heaven Is Like ... Get free alerts at http://PrayInJesusName.org (c) 2022, Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD. Airs on NRB TV, Direct TV Ch.378, Roku, AppleTV, Amazon FireTV, AndroidTV, GoogleTV, Smart TV, iTunes and www.PrayInJesusName.org

PIJN NEWS
Keeping Jesus Close In The Deep and Beyond

PIJN NEWS

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 28:30


Jim Sandman of US Submarine Veterans Shares His Testimony and Ministry and the John Birch society. Finally, Jim Shares about His Book; Heaven Is Like ... Get free alerts at http://PrayInJesusName.org (c) 2022, Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD. Airs on NRB TV, Direct TV Ch.378, Roku, AppleTV, Amazon FireTV, AndroidTV, GoogleTV, Smart TV, iTunes and www.PrayInJesusName.org

The Not Your Grandmother's Book Club Podcast
NYGBC: Episode 100! W Cleon Skousen with X From Utah Outcasts

The Not Your Grandmother's Book Club Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2022 66:17


This Week! We reach an incredible, but ultimately we recognize unimportant milestone of 100 Episodes!!! Thanks to all the listeners and patrons who have stuck with us through all the inane ramblings of conspiracists and zealots on our little quest.   This week we took a look at a man who might be the single most important figure in right wing thought until 2015, W. Cleon Skousen, the man who gave John Birch conspiracism a new twist for a new era, and inspired some of the most virulent morons of our time.   We were joined this week by X from the Utah Outcasts. You can find more of him and all his compatriots doing their good work over at https://www.youtube.com/c/UtahOutcastsOfficial as well as wherever you get podcasts.   Thanks as always for listening and enjoy the show!   Music: "Say You Will" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In House Warrior
The Sanctity of the Rule of Law With T.L. Cubbage III, President of The Center for American and International Law (CAIL) and Host Richard Levick of LEVICK

In House Warrior

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2021 31:39


The Sanctity of the Rule of Law: Thomas (T.L.) Cubbage III, President of The Center for American and International Law (CAIL) speaks with host Richard Levick of LEVICK about the current and historic threats to the rule of law, Jim Crow, John Birch, improving the quality of justice – for law enforcement, prosecutors and defense lawyers and those in private practice -- through continuing education. Tens of thousands of lawyers and law enforcement officers from all 50 states and more than 130 countries have participated in programs of CAIL. Coming directly out of the Nuremberg trials, CAIL was founded in 1947, based on the realization that the rule of law is sacred and should never be taken for granted.

This Day in Esoteric Political History
The John Birch Society Is Born (1958) w/ John S Huntington

This Day in Esoteric Political History

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2021 31:49


It's December 9th. This day in 1958, a group of twelve men met in Indianapolis to found the “John Birch Society,” a virulently anti-communist, conspiracy-minded group that would come to be influential and controversial in 20th century conservatism. Jody, Niki, and Kellie are joined by John S Huntington to discuss what the Birchers were hoping to accomplish, how they've floated in and out of conservative movement, and why a John Birch style of thinking is alive and well today. John's book is “Far-Right Vanguard” — find out more about his work on his website. This Day In Esoteric Political History is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX. Your support helps foster independent, artist-owned podcasts and award-winning stories. If you want to support the show directly, you can do so on our website: ThisDayPod.com Get in touch if you have any ideas for future topics, or just want to say hello. Our website is thisdaypod.com Follow us on social @thisdaypod Our team: Jacob Feldman, Researcher/Producer; Brittani Brown, Producer; Khawla Nakua, Transcripts; music by Teen Daze and Blue Dot Sessions; Julie Shapiro, Executive Producer at Radiotopia

Jexit 2020
ExJW Interview: "John Birch"

Jexit 2020

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2021 32:40


In this episode, my anonymous guest, "John Birch", is a former Jehovah's Witness who started waking up from his indoctrination on the day of his baptism! After a few years of having doubts, John eventually faded from the "religion" because he couldn't agree with the Witness teaching of all "Worldly" people being destroyed at Armageddon. This is his story. How To Support My Work Become a patron Get your Jexit merch One-time donations Follow, Connect, Contact All of my links Email

Freedom is the Cure
Canceling Critical Race Theory Indoctrination

Freedom is the Cure

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2021 46:22


Host Paul Dragu discusses with JBS Vice President Wayne Morrow and JBS coordinator Robert Owens the communist origins of Critical Race Theory, its impact on American society, and what concerned Americans can do to keep it from poisoning their loved ones. Resources & Citations Critical Race Theory Exposed | Constitution Corner – The John Birch […] The post Canceling Critical Race Theory Indoctrination appeared first on The John Birch Society.

Choam and The Navigators
Episode 1 part one of two

Choam and The Navigators

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2021 75:47


The Navigators are folding space/time, we maintain the graveyard shift and focus on transmissions from another planet.  Long live CHOAM.

Digital Field Service
40 x 40 for Lent: Day 40 (Holy Saturday)

Digital Field Service

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2021 3:59


Welcome to 40 x 40 for Lent, a 40 second fitness challenge for the 40 days of Lent. Each episode contains a Bible reading, 40 seconds of 'phys' and a closing prayer. Remember: it is important to warm up and cool down before and after any physical activity. For a lesson in how to complete the exercises, please use the following links: Mon - Burpees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSrV9tHQMVo Tue - Plank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzr1xn9Ls1M Wed - Press Ups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZuDR_dHzFs Thurs - Squats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_nLh7SaupI Fri - Reverse Lunges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY22GxtJ7RM Sat - Crunches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-17Yc_7qtas Remember: Only work to a level you feel comfortable with. If you have an injury, medical condition or have been told not to take part in exercise by a medical profesisonal, please do not undertake these exercises. All Bible verses are taken from: Holy Bible, New International Version® Anglicized, NIV® Copyright © 1979, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide. Our daily prayers are from the following sources: Mon: Fight the good fight by John Samuel Bewley Monsell Tue: Adapted from Archbishops' Council New Patterns for Worship (London: Church House Publishing, 2008), available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Wed: Copyright © 2016 John Birch, available at: https://www.faithandworship.com/#gsc.tab=0 Thurs: A traditional Gaelic blessing Fri: Sarum Primer taken from Archbishops' Council, Common Worship: Daily Prayer (London: Church House Publishing, 2005): available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Sat: Jenny Child Copyright © 2019 Dean and Chapter of Canterbury, avilable at: https://www.pilgrimswaycanterbury.org/ To find out more about the Digital Field Service, visit us at: https://www.facebook.com/DigiFieldService/, https://twitter.com/DigiFieldChurch or at https://www.youtube.com by searching Digital Field Service.

Digital Field Service
40 x 40 for Lent: Day 39 (Good Friday)

Digital Field Service

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2021 3:47


Welcome to 40 x 40 for Lent, a 40 second fitness challenge for the 40 days of Lent. Each episode contains a Bible reading, 40 seconds of 'phys' and a closing prayer. Remember: it is important to warm up and cool down before and after any physical activity. For a lesson in how to complete the exercises, please use the following links: Mon - Burpees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSrV9tHQMVo Tue - Plank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzr1xn9Ls1M Wed - Press Ups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZuDR_dHzFs Thurs - Squats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_nLh7SaupI Fri - Reverse Lunges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY22GxtJ7RM Sat - Crunches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-17Yc_7qtas Remember: Only work to a level you feel comfortable with. If you have an injury, medical condition or have been told not to take part in exercise by a medical profesisonal, please do not undertake these exercises. All Bible verses are taken from: Holy Bible, New International Version® Anglicized, NIV® Copyright © 1979, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide. Our daily prayers are from the following sources: Mon: Fight the good fight by John Samuel Bewley Monsell Tue: Adapted from Archbishops' Council New Patterns for Worship (London: Church House Publishing, 2008), available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Wed: Copyright © 2016 John Birch, available at: https://www.faithandworship.com/#gsc.tab=0 Thurs: A traditional Gaelic blessing Fri: Sarum Primer taken from Archbishops' Council, Common Worship: Daily Prayer (London: Church House Publishing, 2005): available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Sat: Jenny Child Copyright © 2019 Dean and Chapter of Canterbury, avilable at: https://www.pilgrimswaycanterbury.org/ To find out more about the Digital Field Service, visit us at: https://www.facebook.com/DigiFieldService/, https://twitter.com/DigiFieldChurch or at https://www.youtube.com by searching Digital Field Service.

Digital Field Service
40 x 40 for Lent: Day 38 (Maundy Thursday)

Digital Field Service

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2021 3:29


Welcome to 40 x 40 for Lent, a 40 second fitness challenge for the 40 days of Lent. Each episode contains a Bible reading, 40 seconds of 'phys' and a closing prayer. Remember: it is important to warm up and cool down before and after any physical activity. For a lesson in how to complete the exercises, please use the following links: Mon - Burpees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSrV9tHQMVo Tue - Plank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzr1xn9Ls1M Wed - Press Ups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZuDR_dHzFs Thurs - Squats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_nLh7SaupI Fri - Reverse Lunges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY22GxtJ7RM Sat - Crunches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-17Yc_7qtas Remember: Only work to a level you feel comfortable with. If you have an injury, medical condition or have been told not to take part in exercise by a medical profesisonal, please do not undertake these exercises. All Bible verses are taken from: Holy Bible, New International Version® Anglicized, NIV® Copyright © 1979, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide. Our daily prayers are from the following sources: Mon: Fight the good fight by John Samuel Bewley Monsell Tue: Adapted from Archbishops' Council New Patterns for Worship (London: Church House Publishing, 2008), available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Wed: Copyright © 2016 John Birch, available at: https://www.faithandworship.com/#gsc.tab=0 Thurs: A traditional Gaelic blessing Fri: Sarum Primer taken from Archbishops' Council, Common Worship: Daily Prayer (London: Church House Publishing, 2005): available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Sat: Jenny Child Copyright © 2019 Dean and Chapter of Canterbury, avilable at: https://www.pilgrimswaycanterbury.org/ To find out more about the Digital Field Service, visit us at: https://www.facebook.com/DigiFieldService/, https://twitter.com/DigiFieldChurch or at https://www.youtube.com by searching Digital Field Service.

Digital Field Service
40 x 40 for Lent: Day 37 (Wednesday)

Digital Field Service

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2021 3:59


Welcome to 40 x 40 for Lent, a 40 second fitness challenge for the 40 days of Lent. Each episode contains a Bible reading, 40 seconds of 'phys' and a closing prayer. Remember: it is important to warm up and cool down before and after any physical activity. For a lesson in how to complete the exercises, please use the following links: Mon - Burpees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSrV9tHQMVo Tue - Plank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzr1xn9Ls1M Wed - Press Ups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZuDR_dHzFs Thurs - Squats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_nLh7SaupI Fri - Reverse Lunges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY22GxtJ7RM Sat - Crunches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-17Yc_7qtas Remember: Only work to a level you feel comfortable with. If you have an injury, medical condition or have been told not to take part in exercise by a medical profesisonal, please do not undertake these exercises. All Bible verses are taken from: Holy Bible, New International Version® Anglicized, NIV® Copyright © 1979, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide. Our daily prayers are from the following sources: Mon: Fight the good fight by John Samuel Bewley Monsell Tue: Adapted from Archbishops' Council New Patterns for Worship (London: Church House Publishing, 2008), available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Wed: Copyright © 2016 John Birch, available at: https://www.faithandworship.com/#gsc.tab=0 Thurs: A traditional Gaelic blessing Fri: Sarum Primer taken from Archbishops' Council, Common Worship: Daily Prayer (London: Church House Publishing, 2005): available at: https://www.churchofengland.org/ Sat: Jenny Child Copyright © 2019 Dean and Chapter of Canterbury, avilable at: https://www.pilgrimswaycanterbury.org/ To find out more about the Digital Field Service, visit us at: https://www.facebook.com/DigiFieldService/, https://twitter.com/DigiFieldChurch or at https://www.youtube.com by searching Digital Field Service.

Blackbird with James Jenneman
BB16: Potpourri Episode with Patrick MacFarlane

Blackbird with James Jenneman

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2021 88:24


Potpourri Episode with Patrick MacFarlaneMy friend Patrick MacFarlane from Liberty Weekly stopped by for a chat. This conversation touches on all the things: The future impacts of covid, masks, the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, conspiracies, crypto, the Gestapo, John Birch, and Patrick’s interesting family history.Patrick LinksPatrick’s site, Liberty WeeklyJoin the Liberty Weekly MeWe GroupJoin the Liberty Weekly Discord serverWatch Liberty Weekly on OdyseeCheck out Patrick’s work at The Libertarian InstituteRecommended Reading: The Kentucky And Virginia ResolutionsRecommended Reading: Conceived in Liberty Volumes 1-4Supreme Court Opinion mentioned: Jacobson v. MassachussettsRecommended Video: Alan Dershowitz discusses legality of mandatory #COVID​-19 vaccinesSponsorCheck out Paloma Verde CBD and be sure to use coupon code blackbird at checkout to get 25% off your order! I recommend trying the mint tincture!Crypto ResourcesUse the Ledger Nano X wallet to keep your crypto secure when it’s not on an exchange (which it shouldn’t be unless it’s actively making you money!)Check out 3Commas for crypto trading bots.Join BlockFi to earn interest on your crypto.Join Binance or Binance US to start trading. (Note, if you join Binance, we’ll split a percentage of your initial investment. Binance US gives the whole commission to me.)A quick word of warning: In order to comply with IRS regulations and various and sundry state laws, Binance's United States operation is entirely run by Binance dot US. Binance dot com is for non-US customers only.A quick tip: It's important to remain safe and secure online. Using a VPN, you can hide your location from hackers, malicious websites, governments, and other nefarious ne'er-do-wells. I've had great results with Proton VPN and IP Vanish.Learn With MeRenegade UniversityJoin me at Thad Russell’s Renegade University. His postmodernism course is available on replay now. Check out the other offerings to enroll in current and future courses. I think you’ll be particularly interested in what’s coming up in March, a course with CTRL+Pew.Liberty ClassroomI’ve renewed my Basic Membership to Tom Woods’s Liberty Classroom so many times that I finally just sprung for the lifetime Master Membership. I recommend you do the same. You’ll get unlimited access to courses on history, economics, political theory, logic, and even literature taught by liberty-loving professors from colleges

50 Baptists You Should Know

For episode 37 of the "50 Baptist You Should Know" Series, we will discuss the ministry of John Birch. Born to Presbyterian missionaries in India, John Birch was a gifted young man. He found himself at Bible Baptist Seminary under J. Frank Norris, who we discussed a couple episodes ago. Listen along as we explore the life and ministry of John Birch, who eventually lost his life during WWII.

New Books in World Christianity
Matthew A. Sutton, "Double Crossed: The Missionaries Who Spied for the United States During the Second World War" (Basic Books, 2019)

New Books in World Christianity

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2019 28:15


What makes a good missionary makes a good spy. Or so thought "Wild" Bill Donovan when he secretly recruited a team of religious activists for the Office of Strategic Services. They entered into a world of lies, deception, and murder, confident that their nefarious deeds would eventually help them expand the kingdom of God. In Double Crossed: The Missionaries Who Spied for the United States During the Second World War (Basic Books, 2019), historian Matthew Avery Sutton tells the extraordinary story of the entwined roles of spy-craft and faith in a world at war. Missionaries, priests, and rabbis, acutely aware of how their actions seemingly conflicted with their spiritual calling, carried out covert operations, bombings, and assassinations within the centers of global religious power, including Mecca, the Vatican, and Palestine. Working for eternal rewards rather than temporal spoils, these loyal secret soldiers proved willing to sacrifice and even to die for Franklin Roosevelt's crusade for global freedom of religion. Chosen for their intelligence, powers of persuasion, and ability to seamlessly blend into different environments, Donovan's recruits included people like John Birch, who led guerilla attacks against the Japanese, William Eddy, who laid the groundwork for the Allied invasion of North Africa, and Stewart Herman, who dropped lone-wolf agents into Nazi Germany. After securing victory, those who survived helped establish the CIA, ensuring that religion continued to influence American foreign policy. Surprising and absorbing at every turn, Double Crossed is the untold story of World War II espionage and a profound account of the compromises and doubts that war forces on those who wage it. Stephen Colbrook is a graduate student at University College London, where he is researching a dissertation on the interaction between HIV/AIDS and state policy-making. This work will focus on the political and policy-making side of the epidemic and aims to compare the different contexts of individual states, such as California, Florida, and New Jersey. Stephen can be contacted at stephencolbrook@gmail.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New Books in Diplomatic History
Matthew A. Sutton, "Double Crossed: The Missionaries Who Spied for the United States During the Second World War" (Basic Books, 2019)

New Books in Diplomatic History

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2019 28:15


What makes a good missionary makes a good spy. Or so thought "Wild" Bill Donovan when he secretly recruited a team of religious activists for the Office of Strategic Services. They entered into a world of lies, deception, and murder, confident that their nefarious deeds would eventually help them expand the kingdom of God. In Double Crossed: The Missionaries Who Spied for the United States During the Second World War (Basic Books, 2019), historian Matthew Avery Sutton tells the extraordinary story of the entwined roles of spy-craft and faith in a world at war. Missionaries, priests, and rabbis, acutely aware of how their actions seemingly conflicted with their spiritual calling, carried out covert operations, bombings, and assassinations within the centers of global religious power, including Mecca, the Vatican, and Palestine. Working for eternal rewards rather than temporal spoils, these loyal secret soldiers proved willing to sacrifice and even to die for Franklin Roosevelt's crusade for global freedom of religion. Chosen for their intelligence, powers of persuasion, and ability to seamlessly blend into different environments, Donovan's recruits included people like John Birch, who led guerilla attacks against the Japanese, William Eddy, who laid the groundwork for the Allied invasion of North Africa, and Stewart Herman, who dropped lone-wolf agents into Nazi Germany. After securing victory, those who survived helped establish the CIA, ensuring that religion continued to influence American foreign policy. Surprising and absorbing at every turn, Double Crossed is the untold story of World War II espionage and a profound account of the compromises and doubts that war forces on those who wage it. Stephen Colbrook is a graduate student at University College London, where he is researching a dissertation on the interaction between HIV/AIDS and state policy-making. This work will focus on the political and policy-making side of the epidemic and aims to compare the different contexts of individual states, such as California, Florida, and New Jersey. Stephen can be contacted at stephencolbrook@gmail.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gospel Tangents Podcast
Benson & the John Birch Society (Part 9 of 13)

Gospel Tangents Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2019 20:57


If you were born after 1975, you may not have heard of the John Birch Society.  Dr. Matt Harris tells us more about this group, and President Benson's allegiance to this anti-communist group.  Check out our conversation…. https://youtu.be/uWhykFRJz5U Matt:   He meets a man named Robert Welch who founds this very controversial anticommunist organization called the John Birch Society, named after a fallen GI in World War II, John Birch. Welch organizes the Birch Society in 1958. He writes an extremely controversial book that will get him pilloried in the national press. It's called The Politician. He writes it in '58, but it's not published until '63. So it's this big long manuscript that he shares privately with some friends and Benson will get a copy of this manuscript before it's published in book form. In the manuscript, it says that Eisenhower and members of his cabinet are communists. He also said that Milton Eisenhower, the president's brother and close advisor, is also commie. He spells out several people. He says that the CIA director, John Foster Dulles, the Secretary of State--they're all commies. He gives several reasons why. Eisenhower doesn't curtail the New Deal policies. This is liberal new deal. Of course, a lot of conservatives at the time thought that liberalism equated to socialism and communism. Well, one of the things that President Eisenhower doesn't do is drastically roll back the New Deal and that leaves him open for criticism among people like Robert Welch. There's some other things. Welch criticizes some decisions that President Eisenhower had made, General Eisenhower had made during World War II and somehow that equates to communism. I mean, really, it's far reaching here. I guess what surprises me is how Benson turns on Eisenhower, after the two had been such good friends! Henry D. Moyle is in the First Presidency when this letter is sent out. He's a Democrat and Hugh B. Brown's a Democrat, too, the other counselor at the time. You can imagine they're just mortified over this. Here's a moderate Republican now getting accused of being a commie--a five-star general who spent his entire adult life fighting communism and now his erstwhile cabinet secretary accuses him of being a commie. Moyle calls him in. He calls him Taft. Moyle called Taft in and one participant, or one witness said, "He ripped Taft, ripped him." One of the things he said was, "How could you be disloyal to President Eisenhower like this?" You can imagine that as he's sending this around, his son, in the meantime joins the Birch Society and becomes a high ranking official in the Birch Society. He's the National Communications Director, I think, is one of his titles. And he's going around giving speeches to Birch audiences, both in Utah, Idaho, actually one here in Denver, Colorado. He calls President Eisenhower a commie, out in the open--the news media is there. GT: Reed Benson? Matt:  Reed Benson, yeah. Ezra is a little more circumspect. President--Elder Benson at that point knew that it probably wasn't good karma to give speeches, you know, so his son would do that. But Elder Benson did get himself into trouble in 1963. Check out our conversation, as well as our first conversation about how Benson joined the Eisenhower cabinet. Ezra Taft Benson, and his son Reed, were big supporters of the John Birch Society  

A Bob Dylan Primer
The Voice of a Generation

A Bob Dylan Primer

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2019 20:34


Once, a single song could change the world. In 1963, a 22-year-old kid wrote a song called Blowin' In The Wind … and it changed the world.   Episode links: Dylan – Talkin' John Birch...

Peter Boyles Show Podcast
Happy Anniversary John Birch - Oct 10, 2018 - Hr 3

Peter Boyles Show Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2018 52:56


Jack McManus on to discuss the 60th anniversary of the John Birch Society.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Sectarian Review
Sectarian Review 88: The John Birch Society

The Sectarian Review

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2018 63:56


This episode explores the weird history and legacy of the John Birch Society. The conservative organization organized itself around a fervent anti-communisim and took its name from a missionary it saw as a martyr. The story of the real John Birch is told, and the show discusses how the Society that bears his name worships a false image of the man himself, who would have not agreed with the Society's politics. How did the Birchers get kicked out of mainstream conservatism by William F. Buckley? Why did they hate Eisenhower? The episode also explores the conspiratorial nature of fringe politics in general and reflects on what the Birchers can teach us about Q anon, the Tea Party, and more paranoid styles of politics. Starring Jay Eldred and Jordan Poss!

Peter Boyles Show Podcast
More From John Birch on Hickenlooper - Jun 11, 2018 - Hr 4

Peter Boyles Show Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2018 54:58


Jack McManus from John Birch Society continues a deep dive into the "deep state"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sign on the Window
016 – "Hard Times in New York Town"

Sign on the Window

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2017 53:12


SHOW NOTESTo open (1:45), Kelly and I discuss the song. We listened to three versions – on from TBLS Vol. 1-3 one from TBLS Vol. 9: Witmark Demos, and one from Folksinger’s Choice recorded in early 1962 with Cynthia Gooding. Daniel waxes poetic (3:00) about the chances, o the chances (or the desire for our brains to have order and meaning, especially after the black hole of Dylan & The Dead that the attendant’s at the Tower of Song would pair one of Dylan’s earliest songs — from Bonnie Beecher’s apartment during the holidays in 1961 — with his Nobel Prize in Literature speech delivered on June 4, 2017.The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016Kelly (4:40) loved the song and found herself singing it throughout the week. It’s simple, its short, the musicality prevails through the strong finger-picking. We try to determine (5:00) if we could hear the noted progression from his pre-New York self, his post-Columbia contract self, and his post-Bob Dylan self. Each version was unique in its own way — but none more proficient than another. (Once we flesh out this period, give The Minnesota Hotel Tapes a proper listen, and maybe raise some money to get that dang Karen Wallace tape, we’ll speak more on the subject.) Kelly’s favorite was the slower Witmark version, which had an extra verse (7:35):The weak and the strong and the rich and the poor Gathered there together, ain’t room for no more Crowded up above and crowded down below When someone disappears, you never even know.In David Pitacshe’s book, Song of the North Country: A Midwest Framework to the Songs of Bob Dylan, he notes (8:00) that New York is a town of “the kickers and the kicked.” “Dylan links the the kicked poor with the country — while wealthy urbanites like ‘Mr. Rockefeller’ and ‘Mr. Empire’ sit silently on their comfortable perches” (pg. 28). Not to disparage lovely Iowa, but I compare the excising of the above line with the omission of,There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me. The sign was painted, said ‘Private Property.’ But on the backside, it didn’t say nothing. This land was made for you and meandOne bright sunny morning in the shadow of the steeple, by the relief office I saw my people. As they stood hungry, I stood there wondering if God Blessed America for mefrom “This Land Is Your Land” (and is similar to what Dylan would encounter in a few months with "Talkin' John Birch"). Coca-Cola conceptions of America juxtaposed with a radical conception of freedom, liberty, private property. Why did Dylan keep “country” in on of the versions he sang? (He’d swap it with “city” in another.) Kelly felt it was “country” in the macro sense, hard times in America, while Daniel kept in the Midwest and imagined “New York Town” as somewhere the author was trying to conceptualize to fit into his ever-changing sense of scope. It’s the push and pull of being woke and contending with where you came from.In the end, what always gave this song oomph was its finale — When I leave New York, I’ll be standing on my feet. It just feels good to sing, good to dream on. So far, that and Dylan singing, Don’t ask me nothin about nothin / I just might tell you the truth in "Outlaw Blues" are two of Kelly’s favorite Dylan moments.History of New York (11:30)“that was a big theme this week, go figure.” Daniel wants the beginnings of New York. “What was once New York, er, is now New Amsterdam, or the other way around.” Henry Hudson, in 1609, “found” the island of Manhattan, also known as Manna-hatta that was occupied by Algonquins. Hudson went to the Dutch king guy and said there’s some cool stuff in Manhattan and the Dutch king, Schure, creates West India Trading Company — for beaver. In 1624, 30 Dutch families roll into Manhattan. In 1626, Dutch buy Manhattan. Urban legend of $24 is wrote. They paid (with the help of Mr. Minuit, in Dutch money (not shekels, gilders!) equivalent to about $1,000. We own Manhattan and the Lenape ain’t happy but they’re sellin their beaver, we’re sellin our beaver. There’s windmills. There’s 36 bars. Priorities. This guy Jonas Bronck shows up and buys some land. Wilhelm Kiff, becomes leader of New Amsterdam, he builds a wall to keep out the “savages” — this becomes Wall Street. Peter Stuyvesantwas peg-legged. People liked him: “Everything is cool. He’s not obsessed with building walls. Everything is going great. We’re drinkin, we’re smokin…” Hold up!,” Stuyvesant shouts from the back. He wanted to keep people out of New Amsterdam — not just drunks and criminals, but also Jews and Quakers… Everyone: “Guess what, while you weren’t paying attention over the last 40 years, people here aren’t really Dutch anymore. We’re kinda from everywhere.” Enter: King Charles II. III? II. One of the Charles’s sends a fleet and is, like, “Hey!” Not a single shot is fired as the English take control of New Amsterdam. Charles’ brother was the Duke of York. Yeah, you’re piecing this together!Brief aside on Cynthia Gooding (19:00)Bio of Cynthia Gooding! Kelly loved her voice and just wanted to know everything. She was born in Minnesota — “where Bob Dylan was born, see, I remembered!” — and moved to New York City — “see, it’s all relevant!” Elekra Records president found her a “folk party” (let that sink in) in Greenwich Village. She sings in Spanish, Italian and Turkish. She recorded “La Bamba” years before Ricky Vallance did. Folksinger’s Choice on WBAI in NYC. First interview with Bob Dylan. We listened to the final song of the program. She moved to Spain to record flamenco music. Worked for the National Endowment of the Humanities. Died in 1988 in NJ. We talk about her in relation to Alan Lomax. And excerpt her talking with Dylan at the end where she asks if he’ll wear the hat when he’s rich and famous. He says he’ll never rich and famous. Can’t ask for a better segue into the present.The Nobel Prize (23:45)It’s a lot to wrap your head around, especially if you haven’t been around for the entire ride. It was nice to hear more about his life(see Vol. 1 – No Direction Home for more), especially with the piano underneath. The connection of American songwriting with him —through Buddy Holly (who transferred his powers to him) onto Leadbelly and forward. From The New YorkerWhat he is saying is that he learned his consummate literary technique—how to wield metaphor and make simile sing, how to sew his songs with rhyme and spin a whole uncanny scene from a perfectly worded image—from the great vernacular tradition of American songwriting, a vast library stored not on shelves but in minds and chord-picking fingers.Dylan rhapsodizing (27:45) was one of the highlights for Daniel. Then… the book report (29:30)! Moby-Dick, All Quiet on the Western Front, and The Odyssey. Heylin notes, Dylan “saw himself as part of this process — as an interpreter of a hoary ol’ tradition of self-expression, not as an originator of new forms of song”(Bob Dylan: The Recording Sessions 1961-1994, pg.2). While we aren’t under any kind of microscope that Dylan is under, we are all products of our time and culture and the myth of Dylan’s original sin is something that we also carry around as distraction from the truth that the love we project, the words we write, the proclamations we attest to are just sirens of our shared history writ large. Better to own that than try to explain your originality.So what about all this plagiarizing? (32:00) Noisey’s headline: TFW the book report is due tomorrow morning and it’s midnight already. Importantly, they note: “Dylan began (and will likely end) his career recording covers before he decided to toss Biblical archetypes and pop-culture references together and set them to electric folk-rock, so he’s a synthesist by nature.” Slate was out for blood but their interviews with academics was gold:Longtime Dylan fan and George Washington University English professor Dan Moshenberg told me no alarm bells went off for him while reviewing the passages. Gwynn Dujardin, an English professor from Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, had more issues with Dylan’s approach, noting the irony that “Dylan is cribbing [from] a contemporary publication that is under copyright instead of from Moby-Dick itself, which is in the public domain.” A final reviewer, Juan Martinez, a literature professor at Northwestern University, said, “If Dylan was in my class and he submitted an essay with these plagiarized bits, I’d fail him.But it’s not up to them.As The New Yorker put it, after Dylan claims to have read Don Quixote and A Tale of Two Cities in grammar school, “Welcome to Dylan Self-Mythologizing 101.” To close with Dylan’s speech (34:00):That’s what songs are too. Our songs are alive in the land of the living. But songs are unlike literature. They’re meant to be sung, not read. The words in Shakespeare’s plays were meant to be acted on the stage. Just as lyrics in songs are meant to be sung, not read on a page. And I hope some of you get the chance to listen to these lyrics the way they were intended to be heard: in concert or on record or however people are listening to songs these days. I return once again to Homer, who says, “Sing in me, oh Muse, and through me tell the story.Dylan will die one day but these songs will live on. Who hasn’t gone for lists of Nobel, Man Booker, National Book Award, Pulitzer Prize winners to pick the next book, play, poem? Dylan will be unique on this hypothetical list for some hypothetical kid discovering him a hundred years from now. Hopefully he isn’t asking, “What’s music?” or lamenting that guitars don’t work well under water, but if there is a world then, that person will be stumbling upon a treasure trove of people — like us, in our so-far small way — who devote time and resources to this artist.All of that and Kelly kept replaying the ending to Battletar Galactica. Typical! Then Daniel got all personal and macro about life beyond the podcast… though Kelly got stoked about a future space episode! (38:00)THE EPISODE’S BOOKLET & PLAYLISTRECOMMENDATIONSRecommendations: Kelly (41:20). DMX. Wu-Tang. Not Smashing Pumpkins(though she thinks she invented the phrase “Chicago grunge”) and the podcast Throwing Shade.Daniel (43:20): our Spotify playlist, Spotify’s Summer Rewind, and Titus Andronicus’ 2010 album, The Monitor (and an easter egg on the episode’s excerpt of “The Battle of Hampton Roads”).ENDINGS (46:00)I surprised Kelly with two drawings from random.org (who should just sponsor us at this point). First, we pick 3 numbers, 1 through 98, for Dylan’s Theme Time Radio Hour, our next in The Supplemental Series. Kelly selected three incorrect numbers but chose “Dreams.”Then, our OG list (49:30). 1 out of 527.Kelly guessed 493. It was 356.Could have been "You're Gonna Quit Me" but is "Ring Them Bells" from 1989's Oh, Mercy.Follow us wherever you listen to podcasts. See our real-time playlist See That My Playlist is Kept Clean on Spotify. Follow us intermittently on Twitter and Instagram.Tell your friends about the show, rate and review wherever they let you, and consider supporting us by subscribing or at Patreon. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit signonthewindow.substack.com/subscribe

Sign on the Window
012 – "Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues"

Sign on the Window

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2017 49:38


EPISODESHOW NOTESThis song first appeared in Broadside, his first. Famously, he was scheduled to perform on the Ed Sullivan Show in 1962 — which had just broke Elvis and would later break the Beatles. He auditioned the song, people loved it, but when it came down to the show, he was told he couldn’t perform because it could be a “libel” against the John Birch Society. He refused to change the song and walked off the set. National attention followed. Sullivan supported him saying the John Birchers shouldn’t be above criticism.Stodgy Columbia, learning this was scheduled for Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, pulled the song off the record (less than 300 copies of the album went out). Dylan relented and also pulled “Let Me Die in My Footsteps,” “Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Willie”and “Rocks and Gravel.” He replaced them with “Bob Dylan’s Dream,” “Talkin’ World War III Blues,” “Girl From the North Country” and “Masters of War.” John Hammond said, quoted in Shelton’s No Direction Home:The CBS lawyers, not Columbia Records, decided that the reference to Hitler involved every single member of the John Birch Society, therefore it was libelous, or some crap like that. I get away with much worse material with Seeger than was ever on a Dylan album.I couldn’t find the Freewheelin’ version of the song for this recording but we did listen to the 1963 demo (released officially on TBLS Vol. 9: The Witmark Demos) and the Halloween 1964 performance at the Philharmonic Hall (released on TBLS Vol. 6) in addition to the de facto version off TBLS Vol. 1-3.Song itselfThe song is a classic and still finds resonance today. “Reds,” of course were one in a long line of boogeymen the United States has sought to make the Other. The Birchers are the real threats to freedom of speech when everything uttered is “communist.”The song is our first rendition of the “talking blues,” which he’d use often in this period with “Talkin’ New York,” “Talkin’ Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues,” Talkin’ World War III Blues” and “I Shall Be Free” to name a few (to say nothing of less-talky “T.V. Talkin' Song” off Under the Red Sky.To Dave GloverBefore going into the history of the John Birch Society, Daniel read Dylan’s 1963 open letter to his friend Dave Glover:I keep rememberin the songs we used t sing an play The songs written thirty fifty years ago The dirt farm songs – the dust bowl songs The depression songs – the down and out songs The ol blues and ballads I think a Woody’s songs I think a Woody’s day “This land I’ll defend with my life if it be” An I say t myself “Yeah that’s right” “Hitler’s on the march” “I don’t wan”m takin my ground” “I don’t wan”m livin on my land” An I see two side man I see two roads to pick yer route The American way or the Fascist way When there was a strike there’s only two kind of views An two kinds of tales t tell the news Thru the unions eyes or thru the bosses eyes An yuh could stand on a line an look at yer friends An stand on that same line an see yer foes It was that easy “Which Side’re You On” ain’t phony words An they ain’t from a phony song An that was Woody’s day man Two sides I don know what happened cause I wasn’t aroun but somewhere along the line a that used t be day things got messed up More kinds a sides come int’ the story Folks I guess started switchin sides an makin up their own sides There got t be so many sides that no eyes could could see the eyes facin’m There got t be so many sides that all of’m started lookin’ like each other I don pretend to know what happened man, but somehow all sides lost their purpose an folks forgot about other folks I mean they must a all started goin against each other not for the good a their side but for the good a jes their own selves An them two simple sides that was so easy t tell apart bashed an boomed an exploded so hard an heavy that t’day all’ts left and made for us is the one big rockin rollin COMPLICATED CIRCLE Nowadays folk’s brains’re bamboozled an bowled over by categories labels an slogans an advertisements that could send anybody’s head in a spin It’s hard t believe anybody’s tellin the truth for what that is I swear it’s true that in some parts a the country folks believe the finger-pointers more’n the President It’s the time a the flag wavin shotgun carryin John Birchers It’s the time a the killer dogs an killer sprays It’s the time a the billbord sign super flyin highways It’s the time a the pushbutton foods an five minute fads It’s the time a the white collar shirt an the white sheeted hood and the white man’s sun tan lotion It’s time a guns and grenades an bombs bigger’n any time’s ever seen It’s the time a Liz Taylor fans – sports fans and electric fans It’s the time when a twenty year ol colored boy with his head bloody don get too much thought from the seventy year ol senator who wants t bomb Cuba I don’t know who the people were man that let it get this way but they got what they wanted out a their lives an left me an you facin a scared raped worldJohn Birch Society todayJBS, somehow, still lives on today. It’s main activity in the 1960s, according to Rick Perlstein, “comprised monthly meetings to watch a film by Welch, followed by writing postcards or letters to government officials linking specific policies to the Communist menace” (kind of like watching cable news and then tweeting at perceived menaces!)It’s stances are incredible, mainly for being on the wrong side of history on nearly every issue across decades: Against Civil Rights Act of 1964. Against Equal Rights Amendment. Obsessed with the 10th Amendment. Against all free-trade agreements/globalization. Anti-interventionist. Believes fluoride is a communist conspiracy – which they deny but, come on. Thought Eisenhower was a communist. Against OSHA. Against diplomatic ties to China. Against transferring Panama Canal over to Panamanians because, you know, communists.But it’s interesting: Antisemitic, racist, anti-Mormon, anti-Masonic groups criticized the organization’s acceptance of Jews, non-whites, Masons, and Mormons as members. And in a bitterly ironic twist, given today’s world where the Right still worships Ayn Rand, in a 1964 Playboy interview, she said,I consider the Birch Society futile, because they are not for capitalism but merely against communism … I gather they believe that the disastrous state of today’s world is caused by a communist conspiracy. This is childishly naïve and superficial. No country can be destroyed by a mere conspiracy, it can be destroyed only by ideas.Today, the Southern Poverty Law Center lists the society as a “‘Patriot’ Group. It believes a “one world government” is coming so it pushes the US to get out of the United Nations. They still want to dismantle the Federal Reserve. It’s currently led by Ray Clark, who has a fake degree from Donsbaugh University School of Nutrition in Huntington Beach, California – and he puts nutrional supplements in every photo of JBS literature. And, if you want a trip, go to their Twitter to see how hard they’re trying to #hashtag their way into the hearts of the youth.THE EPISODE’S BOOKLET & PLAYLISTRECOMMENDATIONSRecommendations. Kelly recommended Nick Drake and Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 while Daniel listened to Chris Stapleton From A Room: Volume 1.ENDINGSOnly 653 songs left.Kelly guessed #319, which would have been “Bourbon Street” off The Basement Tapes.It was #642, "God Knows," off 1990's Under the Red Sky.Follow us wherever you listen to podcasts. See our real-time playlist See That My Playlist is Kept Clean on Spotify. Follow us intermittently on Twitter and Instagram.Tell your friends about the show, rate and review wherever they let you, and consider supporting us by subscribing or at Patreon. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit signonthewindow.substack.com/subscribe