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Today, I had a breakthrough and found clarity on my avatar - Business owners where we can leverage their customer stories! To teleport their cold traffic and warm traffic into buyers!  Accelerating their audience through the buying process.Show notes:The aha moment – defining the avatarThe emotional impact of this clarityDocumenting emotional moments as per mega business ladies and influencers Natalie Hodson and Kailyn PolandWant help getting your customer testimonials go to www.TestimonialGuy.comEmail me: contact@belove.mediaFor social Media:      https://www.instagram.com/mrmischaz/https://www.facebook.com/MischaZvegintzov

In this live panel discussion, Shane and Natalie discuss something that they know absolutely nothing about. Modern dating in Boise. Powerhouse guests Natalie Hodson, Frankie Katafias, Tyler Grant and Tazz Weatherly spill all the juicy details. We discuss “Swipe Life” and “Situationships”. The specific issues of being an Alpha woman in the dating world. And the impact of a large religious community on the culture of dating. We also invite each guest to share one of their craziest dating stories, and believe us, they did not disappoint. Add in a fantastic live audience at Treefort Music Fest and it's a great time.

Join Natalie and me as we talk about all the things she's been through, how she was able to make it through it, and how now it gives her the motivation to live the life she wants! https://www.instagram.com/nataliehodson1/ https://www.facebook.com/nh.scents

https:www.VirtuallyFamous.cc/castmember We want to make marketing and your message easy. I've made writing stories memorable for you. So, whenever you are writing an email, sales letters, and marketing campaigns use one of the three types of stories start with one of the three H's. History Humanize Hero Today, we are telling you a story about yourself. Humanizing what really happened to Natalie Hodson who made a million dollars with her tiny mishap.  This is an excerpt from the Virtually FAMOUS book, if you want to be an original Cast Member, where you will go through the book chapter by chapter go here to learn more.

In this episode, Sharon and former Idaho fishing state record-holder Natalie Hodson sit down together to talk about Wyoming's first female governor, Nellie Tayloe Ross. Nellie was the kind of person who was born to break barriers, and when her husband died in office, Nellie ran in a special election to take his place as governor of the state of Wyoming, becoming the first woman governor in the nation. But it was just the beginning of her long political career as Nellie moved her way east to Washington DC. In 1933, President Franklin D Roosevelt appointed her another barrier-breaking position: she became the first woman Director of the Bureau of the Mint and served five full terms. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this second installment of this special interview, Russell and Josh go super deep on ‘the master story' and the attractive character…and what happens when you have tons of followers and NO ONE buys! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- Russell Brunson: What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. So, today's episode is probably from most of my conversations with Josh, might have been one of my favorites. It was really, really fun. We started talking about expert secrets and storytelling and how they work, and attractive character profiles, which one you should be using, and how they work, and can you change them? And then also he started going into his concept of the master story, which is something I talk about in Perfect Webinar, but he goes really, really deep in it. And anyway, we geeked out. This was a really fun episode. I hope you enjoy it. With that said, let me cue up the theme song. When we get back, you'll have a chance to listen to this exciting conversation with me and Josh talking about story and attractive character, and a bunch of other really cool things. JoshForti: I got to ask this. Are you not on Twitter? Like I see you on Twitter a lot, and I see you posting stuff on Twitter. But is it not you that's engaging on Twitter? Russell: No, I don't know how to tweet. Josh: You don't know how to tweet? Russell, I tweeted you a lot. Or not a lot, but I tweeted you quite a bit. Russell: Oh, hey. Josh: And then sometimes you like my tweets. Dang it. Russell: I do like all your tweets. They're awesome. Josh: Yeah. Oh, man. Russell: I personally, I enjoy Instagram, probably my favorite. And then Facebook's probably number two. But that's the two social platforms I spend my personal time on the most. So, if it's from either of those two platforms, it's usually me. If it's other places... Josh: Do you have it like broken up? Like are you like, "Instagram, I do this type of content and stuff on. And Facebook, I do this type of content on." Or is it kind of like a mixture of both? Or... Russell: Um. Josh: For you personally. I know your team posts stuff, but... Russell: The only place I really post/do stuff typically is Instagram, like stories. That's where I kind of, like me personally, do stuff. And then Facebook and my personal page, probably once, every once in a while, I drop stuff there. And everything else, that's my team. Josh: Yeah, that's rare though, not often. Russell: Yeah. Josh: You're not like me who's like, "What? It's been 48 hours without some form of controversy? What can I say? Oh my God." All right. Well, actually, I kind of want to talk about that though. Not so much controversy, but creating content specifically around storytelling, because I think this is probably one of the biggest... Let me give backstory, a little context around this. I came into the world completely backwards of what most people do, right? So I was the guy that came into the world, and most people have no following and no followers, and they can't get leads to happen. Right? And they don't get anybody to show up to their webinar. And then they're super depressed because nobody showed up and nobody bought. I had the exact opposite problem. I had everybody show up and nobody bought. And let me tell you, that's way more depressing. You know why? Because when everybody shows up and nobody buys, you're like, "Crap. Now I really am screwed because I have no idea what's going on." Right? Russell: It was me, and not the… whatever, yeah. Josh: Right. It's not because nobody's hearing it. It's because I actually suck. And I remember the first time I ever did a webinar, we actually... I don't know if you remember this or not. I actually sent you a Snapchat. This is right when you first got Snapchat. This is way, way back in the day. I've told this story before. And I went and I was like, "Russell, what's up, man? I'm trying to build this webinar. How much would you charge me to build out a webinar for me or whatever?" Right? And you sent me a little video, a Snapchat video back. You're in the Jeep, and you were like, "Man, I don't really do that. I don't really do that anymore." So I like snapped you back, and then you snapped me back, and you're like, "It'd probably be like $250,000 or something like that. But I don't really do that." I'm like, "Man, I really wish I would've hired you for 250 grand." But anyway, so I go and we do this huge webinar, and everyone told us... We were like, "We're going to have all these people sign up." And everyone's like, "No. No, you're not. Nobody gets people to their webinar that easy. You maybe have a hundred registrants." We had 2000 people register, and we had a thousand people... We maxed out the room with a thousand people on live. At the pitch, there was like 982 people in the room. I go through, I do my pitch. No one buys, not a single person. And then we hung up, and like an hour goes by, and one person had bought. And most miserable, depressing... Russell: That's the worst because then you're like, "Crap. I thought there was no sound or something. Maybe they didn't hear me." Josh: Right, right, right. But I sat there and it was a bad webinar. We had like dozens, probably hundreds of emails and comments of like, "Can I have my money back for a free webinar? This totally sucks. Worst experience ever." It was awful, right? And what was interesting is that really scarred me for a while, from doing presentations and from doing anything where I pitched live. And so I basically went and I just did sales from that point on. I did lots of presentations. I did lots of content. But I did not actually go and pitch because really, it was like PTSD almost. Right? It was like, "I don't want to go back there." And what was interesting is I went and I would do sales, and I got good at sales, but sales is hard, man. Sales is just a different game. It's just like pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. Right? And then my brother died, and out of just sheer not knowing what to do, I just started sharing my story because at that point you're like, "What do you do? My whole life is messed up at this point. I'm so confused." And so I just start sharing what I was going through, and I start sharing things of like the emotions and what I'm learning and what I'm going through. And I remember people just started buying, and it was like the weirdest thing, because I wasn't selling anything. Right? But I would go through and I'd be like, "I'm super grateful and thankful to have an audience right now because I'm able to go through and have a business that allows me to go and like be mobile and go to my brother's funeral or whatever." And then people started buying my programs. And I was like, "What in the world?" And then I would share other things, and then people would start buying. And I'm like, "I'm not actually selling these things. I'm just talking about my life." And what was interesting is I went back eventually later that year, and I went back to all these different people, and I was like, "Why did you buy this product?" And they're like, "Well, because you told such and such a story." Oh, that's interesting. So then I went over here and I was like, "Why did you buy that product?" And they're like, "Well, you guys told such and such story." And it was a completely different story. And it was like they were buying because they would hear a story, and they would associate that story with a product that I was selling, and they would go buy it. And so I had all these different products and all these different stories, and I was like, "Okay, well, I got to figure out what's the one story that I want people to figure out?" Right? So I could sell the one product. And so that's what I've really been focused on recently. But that lesson taught me that storytelling was everything, because I had heard that from you a million times. Right? Russell: Yeah. You didn't believe it. Josh: Story, story, story, story. Right? And I'm like, "I'm telling stories, Russell. What more do you want me to do?" But I wasn't. I was telling facts and I was going out there and trying to sound smart. And when I just let go of it all and was like, "This is the story, like the real, the raw, the genuine. I'm not trying to sell you anything. This is legitimately what's going on in my life." I made more money and more sales than I had before. And so I would love for you to talk about... Like I know in Expert Seekers you go through like storytelling and all the different, the core four stories, and the change of false beliefs. But what's the key? And maybe that's it, like going back through that. And that's fine. But like what's the key to telling a good story? Because I think not only do people... And there's a follow-up question to this, which I'm not going to tell you what it is yet. But what are the elements that make a good story? What actually makes a story work? And how do you tell one effectively? Russell: Yeah. First off, it's fascinating because I went through a very similar journey when I got in this world too. I remember going to my very first event. I saw people selling from stage, and seeing the numbers and doing the math, I was just like, "This is crazy. There's no way this actually works." And then I remember getting invited to speak at a seminar, and it was different because webinars are painful, but man, standing on stage and doing a pitch, and then it bombing was even worse. Because it's just like all these people, nobody moved, and it was just like... In fact, I remember I was like, "I'll never, after the first one, I'll never do this again." That was the worst experience ever. And that's when I joined the Dan Kennedy world, and they had this public speaking course. It was like 40 CDs. I remember the pack was like this thick of CDs. And I bought it because I was like, "I want to figure this thing out." I started listening to him. And I don't remember the course at all, other than this feeling of just like it's not teaching. Teaching is not what gets people to buy when you're on stage. It's telling these stories that connect with people. And it shifted my mindset, and so it shifted to the point where I went and tried again. And the next time I tried, I tried to weed these things in, and I got like six sales, a thousand bucks apiece. And I was like, "Oh, okay." Like I got the reward of like this actually worked. And then I was like, "Okay, do it again and do it again." And then you start getting obsessed with it. And then for me, most of my education for the next five years... Because there wasn't a lot of people that had courses on public speaking or things like that. There were a couple, but there wasn't a lot. I just went... And from a timeline, it was before the big 2000 whatever, the big crash in 2008 or whatever. And so there were events happening every single weekend. So I'd go to an event every weekend, and I would sit there and I would just watch the people speak. And I would watch what they were doing and then see how people would buy at the end. And people, the ones that had the big table rushes and stuff, I was like, "Okay, what did they just do? What'd they do to me? How did they do it? What did they say?" And I was like trying to dissect what they were doing. And then I would model that for my presentations. I'd be like, "Oh, I like how they did that part, how they told the story or how they got emotional." Sort of like just studying. McCall Jones calls it charisma hacking. I didn't know that's what it was at the time. But I was just watching how they did stuff and how it made me feel. And it wasn't just like selling from stage. I started watching religion people as well. Like some of the best presenters in the world are preachers and pastors and things like that. And I was watching just people speak and how they got me to feel and move, and how they told stories in a way that was exciting. And then so that's like this study I started going on. Then I met Michael Hague. I started learning about story structure. I was like, "This isn't just made up. There's actual structures and there's things in place. And this guy's way easier," because now I'm not just guessing. There's actually a pathway. Anyway, so that's kind of my history with it too, but it's fascinating. But I think that if I was to break it down into something for people to understand that's not complex but simple... Because you can go to the Expert Secrets book and it can get really complex. But the simplest form is that if somebody's coming to you, it's because they're looking for something different, right? They want change. They want more. There's some result. And I always think about this like on a mountain because Dan Kennedy used to talk about this. He's like, "You need to become the guru on the mountain. And people are going to come to the base of the mountain, and the closer they get to you up the mountain, the more they're going to pay." Right? So, the base of the mountain, they're paying a hundred bucks a month for a newsletter. And then they want to get closer, they pay 500 bucks a month, then a thousand bucks a month. And for whatever, for 50 grand, they can sit at your feet and talk to you." And he used to always talk about that guru on the mountain thing. And back when I was first studying this, the way people sold was different. It was much more like that. It was more of a status play like, "This is how successful and why you should come up here. And if you want to be like me, you got to come to me, pay me more money." And I never really resonated with that, partially because I'm awkward and I always felt awkward like positioning myself. So I never liked that, and so I started learning about story structure. It was cool because I realized that the positioning of you on the mountain, it's essential, right? But it's not like you sell from the top of the mountain, yelling down to the people. It's like people see you on the top of the mountain, and they're down here like, "I want to be up there." You're like, "Cool." And then it's you coming down off the mountain, running down to where they're at, and being like, "Okay, I know exactly where you're at. Let me tell you my story, because I was in your same spot at one time." Right? And that's the power. So, if you look at the way I do my presentations, I usually drop like one slide or one thing like, "Hey, this is the thing you want." Right? Like, "Cool, I've made whatever." Like I'll do my quick posturing just so they know that I've been to the top of the mountain they're trying to get to. But then I don't stay there. But again, if you watch the old-time speakers from the nineties and early 2000s, they would spend the 90-minute presentation talking about them on top of the mountain the whole time. And I just hate it. So I drop real quick, so you know that I know I've been where we're trying to get to, but I got to come back very, very quickly. And the story I'm telling you is the story, my story, of them. Right? I have to put myself in their spot. Like where was I when I went through the same thing? Because all of us, if you got to the top of the mountain, somewhere you had to start hiking. And you went through that journey to be the guru on the top. Right? And so it's like coming back and remembering where are they at or where were you at, telling your story. And if you tell it the way that they connect, they're like, "Oh my gosh, they are me. I was Russell. Russell went through this. He understands." And there's empathy. Then they trust you. Then they want to go on that journey with you. That's like when you came out and you started telling your story, it wasn't you posturing a position of how great you were. But it's like, "Hey, I've done this thing you're trying to figure out. But let me tell you my story and how I'm struggling, how I'm still struggling, the struggles I went through, and the pain and the fear." And all of sudden they're like, "Oh, I feel that too. I feel the pain. I feel the fear. I understand those things. This person understands me. I can trust them to take me on this journey because he's not going to be the person who's just positioning how great they are. It's someone who I have empathy with. They understand me." And that's the key. Because if they feel like you understand them, then they're going to go on that journey with you. And you do that by telling the story, like your version of their story. Because they're living it right now, and you've lived it the past. You've got to tell that in a way where they connect and now they're going to want to go on that journey with you. And that's kind of the key to it all. Josh: That's super, super interesting. Yeah. Because when I think about story structure, because I've like tried to simplify things down in my own head... Because it's always interesting, because I'll watch everything that you do, and so it's funny whenever I do presentations, people are like, "You're a mini Russell." I'm like, "Well, that makes sense actually. Right?" Like I've watched all this stuff, right? So, but for me, man, going through Expert Secrets, I don't know, it was probably the third or fourth or maybe even fifth time through before I finally actually was like, "Oh yeah, you actually do know what you're talking about." Because every step of the way I'd be like, "But my story doesn't fit in. That doesn't work." Or like, "Mine doesn't have that." Or like, "It's not that systematic." Or, "Russell, it's too much of a science. There's more of an art to it." And then I'd read about it and I'd be like, "This is so scientific." And then I'd watch you do it and I'm like, "That's so artistic." And I'm like, "But they're the same." Right? And so I would try to figure out ways to simplify it down to a way I can understand it. And then once I would understand it, I would plug it into yours, and then it would work. Right? And so for me, it was always like, okay, there's four parts. It's, "How did I get here?" Right? That's backstory. Like, "How did I get to right here right now?" That's like that. And then it's, "Where am I going?" Right? So, the goal, the desire. And then it's, "How am I going to get there?" New vehicle, new opportunity, right? And then it's, "What's it going to look like?" The vision, like what's it going to look like in the process of all that, so we can paint this thing and we get people emotionally attached? And so for me, in my brain... And they don't always happen in that sequential order. Like sometimes you start with the desire, and then you go back, but it has to have all four of those parts. And then I would take that and I would go, and then I would apply it to the Expert Secrets, and then it would start working. Right? I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what Russell's doing here and here and here." And then you actually have this whole framework out about it, right? And I think one of the things for me is I always go... Because we've done book clubs on Expert Secrets. I teach stories in marketing. I teach stories in personal development. Like stories and storytelling is a big part of what I do now, especially over the last six months and moving forward. One of the questions that continues to come up is... Well, there's two parts. Let me start with the first one. "Hey, Russell, that's all great, but I'm not a leader. I'm not the attractive character that's the leader." Right? "I'm not the person that figured it out and am living my customer's journey." And there's actually a lot more of those people than I thought. I thought most people were leaders because that's what I was when I first got started. So my question is, do you tell this story a different way? Or how is the story different, how is it positioned differently, if you are not the leader? Because I know you're not in your story. You're the reluctant hero, right? And so I tell people, I'm like, "Before you start figuring out your story, you got to figure out what attractive character you're going to be." Right? And we go through the four inside of Expert Secrets. It's like there's the leader, there's the adventurer, there's the reporter, and then there's the reluctant hero. And what's interesting is early on in my journey, I was the hero. Right? I was the one, I was like, "Guys..." I was literally this broke kid, freaking living in a $500-a-month apartment with duct tape windows. And now I'm not, right? And Instagram was the thing, and social media, and here we go. Right? But as I evolved, then the podcast came. And without even realizing it, I became the reporter. Right? And so how does, based on your attractive character, how does that change the story or how you tell it? Russell: Yeah. And it's funny because mine's transformed, not only just throughout time, but in different situations as well. Right? Like sometimes I'm the attractive... You know, when I got started, say when I was an interviewer, so I interviewed people. So I was a reporter for a long time. But then I transitioned to like a reluctant hero. But there's other times, like if I'm on Hockey Live, I'm not the reluctant hero, right? At that time I've got to be the hero. Like I'm coming in and I'm setting authority because I've got a whole group of alphas in the room. And if I don't come there as like the head alpha, they will run me over. If you're like in a situation with Tony Adib, like if I'm that situation, I'm transitioning more back to reporter because I'm leveraging Tony's expertise and things like that. And so I'm going back as a reporter. Same thing with Dan Kennedy right now. You look at... It's fascinating. Like we just bought Dan Kennedy's company, right? We just launched the first Dan Kennedy new offer. By the way, if you're listening, go to NoBSLetter.com and go sign up. But yeah, like... Josh: By the way, make sure you go through my link. Russell: Yeah. But look at like how I've... It's /JoshForti, yeah. Josh: Yeah. Russell: But if you look at like how I'm positioning this offer, it's not me coming as like Russell's the alpha. Right? I'm coming back here as like, "This is my mentor. Boom. And I had this chance to acquire, but I'm going to go through 40 years of his stuff, and I'm bringing it back to you." And I'm pulling these things out, and this is what I learned from Dan and what I learned from Dan here." Right? And it's me coming back in a reporter role with my mentor, and that's how I'm introducing the world to him. So, it shifts, right? It shifts based on the story and the situation. Like what are you using it for? Right? Like I could've come in and be like... Because there's different posturing. Like I could've come in and been the hero and like, "I bought Dan's company. We bringing it back from the dead. Da, da, da." Like put it on me. But that story, first off, didn't feel good. But second off, it's not the story that needs to get people to move. The stories to get people to move is me giving homage to this guy who's changed my life, and now I'm going to be having the chance to bring these things back to you. Like me becoming the reporter back in that phase, in that business and that side, is a more powerful story to use. Right? And so it's all coming down to figuring out what's going to be the best story, right, in this situation and where you're at, and thinking through that. Because right now you're in a reporter role, but other times I still see you, you shift back over where you're running different things. So it's just trying to figure out what's... Again, these are all tools. I was talking to the Two Comma Club X members this week. And part of the group's doing challenges, part are doing webinars, part are doing different things. And they're like, "Which one should I do? Which one's the best?" I'm like, "No, it's not which one's best. These are tools. Like this is a hammer, this is a saw, and different jobs and different tools." And so it's like if I'm coming in here, I want a hammer, but over here I want a saw, and here I want a hammer and a saw, because I'm going to do this thing. Right? And same thing with stories, understanding that. Like your attractive character can shift. Mine's shifted more throughout time, but also situationally it shifts where it's like, okay, this is the role I need to be here, and it's okay to shift back to reporter. I've seen people, in fact... Well, can I drop names? Yeah. Who cares? So like Grant Cardone's a good example. I love Grant. Grant is like the leader, right? And at 10X, after we set all these sales records, Grant was going to shift to the interviewer and he was going to interview me. And it would've been a really fascinating thing for him to pick my brain and ask. And we sat down and we got in the thing, and he sat there for a second, and all of a sudden he was like, he didn't want to. He thought like shifting to the interviewer was a decrease in status. And he literally stopped before he started and said, "Actually I don't want to interview you. I'm going to have somebody else do it." And he got off the little thing, had somebody else come in, and that person interviewed me. And I was like, "Ah, dang it." It would've been so powerful for him. Josh: Come on, Grant. Russell: It would been so powerful for him, for his positioning, for people to connect with him better, if he would've come off like, "I'm Grant Cardone." You know, trade, come down for a second, and done the reporter, and been excited. Because he genuinely was excited. He, backstage, was freaking out. He was like, "I've never seen what you just did. That was amazing." Like it was this cool thing. And it humanized him for a minute. And he could have had that moment where he did it, and he didn't. Whereas me right now with Kennedy, I'm paying all homage to Dan. He's amazing. And it, first off, makes the offer better, makes the story better, but it also makes me more... People connect because now it's like they're the same thing. Like, "Oh my gosh. I have mentors. I can be excited about what they're learning." I don't have to posture all the time where I'm the only person. You know what I mean? Josh: Yeah. Well, it's super interesting that you say that because studying influencers has been something that I've kind of geeked out about. And one of the things you talk about in there, in Expert Secrets or whatever, is the attractive character has flaws. Right? And when the attractive character owns those flaws, it actually makes their supporters love them more. And what's interesting is that I've looked at people like Trump, and we're not trying to get political here in any way, shape or form, but one of the big criticisms of Trump, even from his own people, and I being one of those, is he never admits when he's wrong. He never will step down and even give the idea that somebody else could be right. And because of that, that actually hurts him a lot more in the long run than in the short, than it gains him in the short term. Right? And so it's that same concept. And then I look at someone like a Dave Portnoy, right? And do you follow Dave at all? Dave Portnoy? Okay. So he's the founder of Barstool Sports, and he's the one that did the Barstool Fund and everything like that or whatever. Here's a dude who, I mean, his fan base is not as large as Trump's, but as far as like fans and fans, people love Portnoy. Right? Like, I mean, there's his fans. But he makes fun of himself constantly, right? And he's constantly coming back and being like, "Yeah, I messed up." All of his bets are public because he owns like a gambling or a sports betting company. So you go to his Twitter and it's nothing but all of his wins and then all of his losses. Right? And so you can see both, and people just love it. And anytime people are trying to bash up on him, all of his supporters come and they're like, "Yeah, we know he's an idiot. Right? But he's an amazing idiot. Yeah." Right? And so it's like when you show that other side, people connect to you even better. And it's such a fascinating concept because it's opposite of what our brains think. You know what I mean? Russell: A hundred percent. It's counterintuitive. Like we want to always posture position, thinking that's the... It's just like the guru on the mountain we talked about, right? Like in the eighties, nineties, every expert wanted to be the person, the infallible expert up here at the top. But man, that's not what gets people to connect. It's the coming down and like, "Dude, I struggle too. I remember the pain. I remember the pressure, the fear, the scare, like all those things." And that's what connects people. People crave connection now. Maybe there was a time in history where people just wanted the other thing. But nowadays it's not that way. People connect with vulnerability. But it's hard, it's scary, because it's like... In fact, Natalie Hodson, I think she quoted Brene Brown, but she's the one that told me this. She's like, "When you're vulnerable, you feel small, but people looking at it, it feels makes you feel big to them." So it's a weird thing where you're like, "I feel horrible," but it makes them look at you and like, "Oh my gosh, this person's willing to say things I'm thinking in my head and I don't dare to talk about because of my own fear and anxiety and status, and all those kind of things." And it gives them that thing, and that's what gets people to connect with you. It's really fascinating. Josh: Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay. Last piece on this, which will take up the rest of the time for sure, is the number one question that I get hands down when it comes to stories... I'm sure you've heard this a million times, but in the odd case that you haven't, Russell, your people want to know this. Okay? The number one question is: How do I know which story to tell? Russell: Ooh, that's good. Josh: Right? It's the hardest thing because people are like... And it's always hilarious because I'll sit down and I'll be like, "Well, what story are you trying to tell?" And they're like, "I don't know." And I'm like, "Well, here's your life story." And I will tell them because I'm like their coach and I've been around them for six weeks or whatever it is. And I'll go, "Here's your story. Boom, boom, boom." And I'll summarize their entire life in 30 seconds. And they're like, "How did you do that?" And I'm like, "Because it..." Well, anyway, I want to know the answer to their question. How do you know what story to tell? Because everybody has these. We're so close, right? And for me, I'm about to turn 28, right? My 28th birthday, we'll do a big birthday bash. Russ is coming on. It's going to be great. We're going to want to do podcasts. It's going to be so cool. Right? But it's like I've got 28 years worth of experiences. How do I know what to tell? Russell: Yeah. It's fascinating. When I wrote the first version of the Expert Secrets, I didn't know that was the question people had. I didn't even know how to answer. It never crossed my mind. And anyway, I wrote the second version of the Expert Secrets and I'd seen it, so I'd updated it. But no one ever commented. And it wasn't until... Actually, you came to it. You came to the most recent FHAT event I did, right? The expert one? Yes, okay. Josh: Yeah, not the e-com one, but yeah. Russell: Yeah. So the first time I shared that publicly was at that event, and I remember it was fascinating because Steven Larson is probably one of the people that have studied me the most. And he raised his hand like, "Oh my gosh." He's like, "I finally understand what story I'm supposed to tell." And that was coming from Steven who like... And I was like, "Interesting." So, this is the problem I think that... And I always tell people, "Tell your backstory. Tell the origin story." So they're like, "Okay. I was born in Provo, Utah, March 8th, 1980. It was a cold night." And they, they go back to there, right? Because they think that's the story, because I tell them, "Tell your origin story." And it wasn't until at that event... Again, I think, I'm pretty sure in the second version, the hardbound version of DotCom Secrets, it's in there. But it was that event where I really said, "The story you're telling is not like your origin story. It's your origin story of how you came upon or created or figured out your framework. It's your interaction with the framework you're sharing." That's the key, right? So, when I'm talking about the perfect webinar, for example, the origin story I'm telling is not my origin story. It's my origin story discovering this framework. So, for example, I went to Armand Morin's event and I saw people speaking on stage. I did the math, and then I spoke on stage, and I looked like an idiot. And I went back home, and then I bought Dan Kennedy's course. I realized it was wrong, and then I went through the thing. And so it's that story, it's how I learned or I earned this framework. Like how did I come up with... What was the things I went through to discover this gem that I'm bringing now from the top of the mountain down to them, saying like, "This is the thing I found out, and this is the story about how I found it. Let me share it with you." And be like, "Ooh, I want that gem. I want that gold nugget." And then they come with you on the journey to go and get that with you. So, that's the most simple way I've figured out how to explain it. I'm curious on your side, because you've explained versions of this as well, would you add to that or change it? Or what are kind of your thoughts on it? Josh: Well, so let me start by telling you the biggest struggle that I had. Like I'm talking for over a year of reading Expert Secrets, I struggled with one specific thing that I could not figure out, and it was the question that I wanted to ask you for the longest time. And then like right before we got an interview, I figured it out. I was like, "Oh my gosh." But it was I didn't understand the difference between the backstory and secret number one. And what I meant mean by that is like, to me, I'm like, "First you discover funnels, and then you teach them the framework for funnels. It's the same thing." But then you would say they're different. And I'm like, "How?" Right? Like I don't understand the difference between those two things. Now, at first I didn't understand it at all. And then kind of my first epiphany or my first breakthrough was, "Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. First the backstory introduces the thing. And then secret number one has the framework for the thing." Right? And so then that was kind of my first realization of like, "Okay, these are separate. It's one, it's the thing. And then the framework for the thing." But then I would look at your webinar and I would go, "Russell, Russell, what's your framework? Like what's the framework to build a funnel?" I'm like, "It's hook, story, offer." That's what I thought, right? I'm like, "In order to build a good funnel, it's hook, story, offer." And then I was like, "Well, maybe that's not the framework. Maybe it's add all the upsells and break the beliefs, and then go through." And I was like... But no matter what it was, it was never... Like the framework for building a successful funnel was never to go and model somebody else's funnel, and then build all the up. I'm like, that's a thing, but that's not the parts of a funnel. Right? And so I got confused because I thought the framework that I was supposed to teach in secret number one was the parts of the thing, not the framework for how to build the thing. Right? And so I think one of the biggest 'aha' moments for me is like each part of the webinar that you're doing is its own separate section, and they build off of one another, but they're also each standalone. Right? And so I thought that the backstory or that the story that I told in the backstory was the story through the entire webinar, and it's not. Right? And so whenever I would hear you say, "Well, tell the backstory about how you learned it and how you earned it," I thought it was like that was the story for the webinar, and then I had to go through and tell each thing. And then I realized that there's a separate story for each thing. Right? There was a separate story for the backstory. And by the time you're done with the backstory... And I think it was you that said it. I go back and forth. I really like how Dan Henry explained some of the things specifically when selling courses, because that was the other problem, was you were selling a software and I was like, "Well, what happens if I'm not selling a software? Oh, crap. Where does it fit in?" Right? But I think it was you that said by the time you're done with the backstory, there's a percentage of your people that are ready to buy. And I'm like, "Whoa. That's the story that I've got to figure out." And so for me, I was like, "What is the story that I have to tell, that if I were not allowed to tell secret one, secret two or secret three, people just took me at my word that what I said was the solution to their problem? What's that story that I have to tell that people would go and buy?" And I became obsessed with that, and that's what I call a master story. Because I'm like, to me... And that's why I was telling you where I was geeking out about it. I'm like, to me, once I figure out that, and I've gone through and taught all these students how to teach stories, if I focus all of my time on the three secrets, we never get anywhere. Like literally. It's ridiculous. We'll spend so much time, and then they'll do the presentation and it won't work. But if I spend 80% of my time on just the backstory and we get that right, they basically figure out the other three secrets like that. And I spend 20% of my time in the other three secrets. Russell: That's fascinating. Josh: Yeah. Russell: Because I spend both of my time doing the three secrets, because that's where people get stuck on my side. But man, the way you frame that's really cool, because I always think about... There's different markets I go after, right? So if I'm going after like a beginner market, my first thing is telling the potato gun story, because it's like, "I had a potato gun, we had an upsell, da, da, da." And for beginner, like... Josh: Which 100%, by the way, 100% of what I've done... The last like six, three months I've been doing sales calls like crazy. Whenever I mention the master story, I go, "Hey guys, do you know Russell?" They're like, "What's the master story?" I'm like, "Do you know who Russell Brunson is?" They're like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Do you know the potato gun story?" 100% of the people say yes, every single time. There's not been a single person... I'm like, "That's his master story when it comes to funnels." Anyway. Russell: That's always interests me because I have a different master story if I'm going over like a more advanced audience, which is the master story of no VCs. Right? So it's like, "We're competing against InfusionSoft and all these things. They had a hundred million dollars in funding. We didn't have any money. We were broke. And so we put this thing together. Da, da, da." And they're like, "Now we get customers for free, and then they buy software." And that master story is what sells it to more of like the corporate, like the business owners who think through the world of like investing. So, that's story that I lead... If I talk about potato guns with them, they're lost, right? So again, it's like, people are like, "But I only have a story." It's like, "No, you have different stories. What are the stories that fit the audience?" Dan Kennedy 101, message to market match. Like how do you connect these things? Right? It's like here's the market I'm talking to. In fact, I think you know this. We bought Doodly.com and we bought like Brad Callen's whole company. And these people, I didn't realize at the time, I thought they were internet marketers using software to make sales videos. But no, they were actually course creators who don't know anything about marketing. And so I went and did my webinar pitch to these people and it bombed, and it was like the worst thing ever. And I was like, "What?" And it was like, "Oh my gosh. I didn't understand the market." And so I had to change. So we rewrote it, changed the story, changed the thing to match the market we're going after. And now it's converted really well. But it was like, it's just understanding that in every situation, like figuring out, "Okay, who am I actually speaking to? So there's the market. And what's the message, the story I think I have that's going to match that to then bring them into our world?" Because I'm selling the same product, no matter what, but there's different stories that's going to hit different markets as you go through. You'll probably hear me quote a lot more Dan Kennedy in your future, as I'm going through all his courses again right now, and having the time of my life with it. So... Josh: Yeah. Well, it's just interesting, just going back to that one concept of like the first core story, the master story, the backstory of it all. I think one of the big problems that I know I ran into this is, once again, I thought the whole webinar was designed to teach and educate. Like that's when I would introduce and teach it, the whole entire process. But it's not. Like secret one, secret two, secret three are designed to educate on the thing that you introduce in the backstory. Right? And for me, with the people I work with on a pretty consistent basis, it's like they don't understand that either. And so when I go in and I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no. Forget about teaching them about it. You have to teach them what it is, why it's so important." And I always go back to that story when you were like no one was buying it and then you're like, "Do you understand what I went through then?" I'm like, "That! That's what you're trying to create." It's like forget the framework for it. Forget how it works. Forget why it worked for them. Forget the external objections for a second or whatever. Like what do you have to do that, if you didn't get to do anything like that, how would you convince somebody that this is the most greatest, amazing thing, and then be like, "And just take my word for it that it's going to work for you." Like, what's that story that you would tell? And for me, once I identified that was what it was, and I started working on my students with that, all the rest of the webinars and find new challenges and everything became easy. Whether it was Catherine Jones when we worked with her, whether it was Brad Gibbon, casual tactics, like all of them, it was like, once we figured out that, then all the rest of the things fell into place. Russell: Yeah. It's fascinating because the reason why I bombed when I first started versus why I started studying dance stuff, is that realization of just like, "They haven't bought into the fact that they want to funnel yet or that they want weight loss or whatever the thing is." Like your only goal during the webinar or the challenge or whatever is to convince them that this is the vehicle that's going to be the most likely successful to get up on that mountain and get the result that they've been looking for. Because they've been looking for the result for a long time, right? I think Katlyn said the average woman goes on eight diets a year. Right? So it's like, now that they're like, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to lose weight." It's not like this, "Oh my gosh, I'm going to make money. Oh my gosh, I'm going to..." Like, they already want the result. They tried three or four other things. You're trying to convince them that your presentation or your challenge or whatever is to convince them that of all the different potential opportunities, that your new opportunity is the one that's most likely to get them success. And if they buy into that, then you can take them on the journey. But you start teaching around the gate. You're trying to take them on this journey, and they're like, "Wait, but there's like 10 other options. I don't think you're the right... I don't even know if you're the right option. I have no idea." So your job and your role is 100% only there to convince them that this is the most likely thing that's going to give them the success they're looking for. And yeah, then you won. Then you can bring them into world. Now you can serve them. Now you can change their life. But until you've sold them on the fact that your vehicle is the one that is most likely to give success, you can't serve them. You can't change their life. You can't do anything. And so that's what we got to become really good at is that transition. So, anyway, so fun. Josh: All right. Well, that'll wrap up the story episode there. I think that was really, really good. I think we got a lot accomplished. Russell: We should go, another time, or next time you're a voice, we should do like a half-day live with everybody on like the master story. That'd be fascinating to go deeper just on that, without the context of having to have all the rest of the webinar things. I'd love to geek out with you deeper on that. So, there's the thought. If you guys want more of that, you got to let me and Josh know, and maybe next time we're around some UFC fight or some fake YouTube boxing fight, we'll plan something fun like that. Because that'd be really cool to go deep on that. Josh: That fake YouTube boxer fight, that's 5 and 0, right? Oh, man. All right. Russell: All right. Thanks, you guys, for listening. If you enjoyed this, please let us know. Tag us on social. Tweet us out. Instagram us. YouTube... I don't know. All the different places. Josh: Don't tweet us. Russell won't tweet at you. He'll just fake like your tweets. Instagram? Instagram. Russell: Tweet at Josh, and then I'll share it. Josh: Yeah. Russell: My team will share it. Anyhow, let us know. We're enjoying doing these, and hopefully you guys love them as well. And the last way, if you want to help grow this podcast, please just tell other people about it. And yeah, that's all I got. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Josh.

Here is another awesome episode from the Traffic Secrets book launch podcast. Want to know how to grab (and KEEP) your customers' attention, and draw them into your world? On this episode, Russell shares: The 3-part method to crafting a high-converting sales funnel. How Natalie Hodson used this method to sell 120K copies of her book! How to use this SAME method to attract and convert your dream customers, no matter where they're coming from! Listen in to learn more! Also, go get your FREE copy of Traffic Secrets here! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody. This is Russell. Welcome back to wherever you're hanging out with me at. We've got Instagram. We've got Facebook going right now. And I am home during week number two of our quarantine. And I'm guessing a lot of you guys are as well. And so while we're sitting here, trying to figure out what to do, I figured this is a good time to start talking more about traffic. So hopefully, you guys are all excited and pumped for that. Anyway, excited to be here with you guys today. And it's interesting, as we were talking this morning as a team, and we started talking about all the fears. There are obviously a lot of fears, right now, happening in society and the economy and things like that. It's like, "Well, how do we protect ourselves? How do we create a life preserver around our company? What does it look like? What does that need to be?" And honestly, the biggest, most important life preserver you can create for your company is getting customers. That is your life preserver, especially in times right now, where so many companies aren't able to get customers. That's why the economy's failing, why businesses are failing is because they can't get customers. And so I figured, from now until the next, I don't know, two or three weeks, two or three months, I'm going to be talking about this like crazy with you guys. How do we get customers? How do we get customers? Because it's the thing that we all need right now. It's the safety net we need to protect ourselves and to protect our businesses. And so that's kind of the game plan. So with that said, you guys excited if we go jump back into Traffic Secrets book some more? First off, thank you so much for all you guys. Obviously, we launched this Traffic Secrets book in the middle of chaos, and the books are selling like crazy. And so I want to thank you guys so much for doing that. That's exciting. Tom Greece said, "We are pregnant, and the next generation funnel hackers are on the way." Congratulations, Tom. We got funnel hacking babies coming. I love it. Oh, I heard the prediction is that after this whole everyone's quarantine come down, there's going to be a whole bunch of babies popping up nine months later. And the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed with that. So good thing they're preparing now, I guess. Anyway, so I want to jump into this next section here of Traffic Secrets with you guys. So if you have been, obviously, the books don't ship until May 5th, but tons of you guys have been, told me you got the audio book, which is awesome. If you've been listening to all of the things, today we're going to be jumping into secret number three, which is by far the most, probably one of, if not the most, important secrets in the entire book, which I'm excited for you guys to get into. So things we've covered so far. Secret number one, we talked about who is your dream customer and really getting a deep understanding of them. Are they moving towards pleasure or away from pain? Are they a searcher? Are they a scroller? Getting deep into their mindsets so we understand them because if we understand who they are, then we can understand secret number two, which is where are they actually hiding. Where are they congregating online? Where is the existing streams of traffic happening? So we can go, we can find those people, and we can tap into them. So that's number two. So now secret number three is what we call, are you guys ready for this? Hook, story, offer, and the attractive character. Now, man, if you guys have been following me at all for the last two years, not quite, a year and a half or so, about a year and half ago-ish is when I first came up with the new framework, hook, story, offer. And I started freaking out. I was like, "Ah." And I remember it was one of those things, where I was doing a training for my two comma club X members, and it just kind of came out. I was teaching something, and I was like, "if you notice, every single page in the funnel has hook, story, offer. The ad does. The emails do. The landing page, the sales page, upsells, every single page has hook, story, offer. And as we got deeper and deeper into it, I realized that if anything in the funnel isn't working, it's always because of either the hook, the story, or the offer. And then I started freaking out. I remember the next morning I came in, it was like six in the morning. I was lifting weights with James P. Friel and Dave Woodward. And I was like, "You guys, guess what? I just figured out this thing." And they're like, "What is it?" I'm like, "It's called hook, story, offer." And they're like, "That sounds weird." And we spent the entire hour, we didn't lift a single weight that day. We just talked about hook, story, offer. And they were freaking out. I was freaking out. I'm looking at every funnel we've ever done. Like, what was the thing that made them work and not work? And it was crazy that every single time it always had to come down, and it was always either the hook, the story, or the offer. And so I want to give you guys, as you guys know, when I wrote the new Traffic Seekers book, at the same time I went and I rewrote the DotCom secrets book. I rewrote the Expert Secrets book. And then I wrote this book as well. I wrote this one first, and then rewrote those other two. And because hook, story, offer, it's crazy because it's such a fundamental important concept. But because I didn't come up with that framework until after these first two books were published, these two books were missing it. And so part of the big rewrites in these include the hook, story, offer. So in DotCom Secrets book, I go deep in hook, story, offer. Expert Secrets, I go back into it as well. In DotCom Secrets, we talk a lot about funnel audibles and testing your funnel and funnels not working. And there's a whole new section in the back here about that. And what's cool about it is it's all based back on hook, story, offer. Anyway, and so in the new book, Traffic Secrets, I talk a lot about this as well because it's such a big part. In fact, traffic, one of the most important things I've tracked is being good at throwing out hooks. A hook is like, how do you grab someone's attention? Most of our customers all day are on their phone scrolling, and they're scrolling, and they're scrolling. A hook is the thing that gets them to stop scrolling. So the hook could be the picture of you. Notice I didn't just do this on a white wall. I'm like, "Hey, I need a picture back here." And I totally forgot. I usually have something different back here, but there's the default Apple TV backdrop. I've got my books here. And then, notice I'm doing things like this. I'm trying to hook your attention. So if you're scrolling through Facebook or Instagram, all of a sudden you see this. Like, "Why is Russell so excited? Ah." And that hooks you. So hook could be the headline. It could be the image. It could be the picture. It could be a backer. It's everything you have in your tool chest to grab someone's attention. There's hook. Okay. The second part of hook, story, offer is story, which in the Expert Secrets book is the deep dive on story, storytelling, story process, how it works, how it doesn't work. And so I talk about story a lot here, but Traffic Secrets is primarily finding the people and getting hooks to grab their attention. Expert secrets is like how you tell the story to build a perceived value of what you're going to sell. And then actually, in Dotcom secrets, we go deeper into offer. So you got hook, story, offer. They kind of weave backwards in the books, but I touch upon them deep in each book. But so, Traffic Seekers book, in section number three, or secret number three, is all about hook, story, offer. So I'm going to flip open to there really quick. So you see the picture here. If you guys can see, if you're watching, you can see there's a picture of all these little hooks. Then there's the story. And there's the offer. And this is the core framework of funnels. When you really start understanding it. All right. Are you guys cool, if I read you part of the book? Ah. Okay, I'm going to read you a story. And this is, anyway, this is a fun one. "So it was 9:27 PM. Sorry. It's 9:27 PM. And the last of Jessica's kids had just fallen asleep. It had been a long day that started out way before the sun came up and was finally ending. While Jessica was exhausted, it was her time now. And she had a few precious moments to herself without kids pulling her in a million directions." Does that sound like any of you guys? If you've got kids, it sounds like me, especially during this quarantine. "Soon she would have to start her nighttime routine of cleaning up the house, getting herself ready for bed, taking off her makeup, and finally falling asleep for a few hours before she had to wake up and start it all over again. As she fell on the couch, she reached in to her pocket and slowly pulled out her phone. What had been happening in everyone else's lives today, she wondered. She opened Facebook and swiped through the lives of her friends and family, hoping to find some comfort, knowing that she wasn't the only one who had a busy day. Soon she started to get bored. But when she was about to close the app, she saw an image fly past her screen. She almost missed it, but she slowly moved her finger back up the phone, bringing the picture into the middle of the screen. Yep. She thought she was right. It was a picture of a woman about her age in workout clothes with gray shorts on. The thing that caught her eye wasn't the shorts, though, it was the dark gray spot in the middle of her shorts. A little confused. She looked around above the image and read the words, 'Let me tell you about the time that I peed my pants during a workout. I was filming for dollar workout club. I'd never been so embarrassed before.' Jessica was right. It was a picture of a grown woman who had peed her pants. She laughed for a second, but then her laughter turned into uneasiness as she realized that she knew exactly how this woman had felt. She had experienced the same thing earlier that year, when her kids had wanted her to jump on the trampoline with them. She wanted to be a good mom, but after a few jumps, she had to get off because she had peed her pants. She quickly came up with a reason why she couldn't jump anymore. And after apologizing to her kids, she had run to her house to get changed. She knew the story she told her kids wasn't true, which added to her mom guilt even more. This also made her think about other activities she knew she would love to do but were off limits for the same reason. After a few seconds of looking at the image, Jessica decided she wanted to see why in the world this woman would post a picture of herself on Facebook telling others that she had peed her pants. She clicked on the image and was immediately taken to the page of the video with the same woman in the picture. Jessica clicked on the video and started listening to the story. The woman's name was Natalie Hodson, and she was a fitness blogger and a mom of two amazing kids, who were both 10 pound babies. Natalie told her embarrassing story, when she accidentally peed her pants during a workout she was filming for her blogs. She then talked about a doctor that she had met, who specialized in helping women with this problem. She shared how the doctors were able to help her. And after she had success, she wanted to share it with other women. Natalie mentioned she had worked with the doctor to create an online program that anyone could do from home with simple exercises to strengthen their abs, core, and pelvic floor. Together, Natalie and the doctors, made an ebook that also came with bonuses, like diet, nutrition trips, exercises, and movements, and special training programs. They wanted to make this offer for all the moms who had struggled with accidental leaks after having babies but didn't have the ability to meet with the doctor in person. Instead, you could get the same advice without ever leaving the comfort of your home, and you can get the ebook with all these bonuses mentioned for just $47. Excited, Jessica jumped off the couch and ran across the room to find her credit card. After typing in her credit card numbers, within minutes, she had access to the ebook that would solve her problem forever. Even though Jessica story is fictional, this type of experience does happen each and every day to women who are embarrassed when they accidentally pee their pants a little bit, when they cough, sneeze, or even jump on the trampoline. Over the past three years, over 120,000 women have purchased Natalie's ebook. This made Natalie Hodson a household name, giving her the ability to change the lives of countless women around the world and made her very wealthy in the process. The framework that Natalie used to get 120,000 people to buy her book, Abs, Core, Pelvic Floor, is called hook, story, offer." Oh, you guys see where this is going? Okay. So think about this. This is happening every single day. And I shared that story at the beginning because Natalie's business has blown up, but it's all based on the same concept. People have their phones, or they're on their computer. They're scrolling through Facebook and Instagram, through YouTube, through blogs, like whatever their method of learning is. They're doing their thing. And then something's got to capture their attention. Now for us, as business owners, as marketers, as entrepreneurs, as funnel hackers, our job has become great at getting people's attention, throwing out hooks that grab their attention. So for Natalie, as she was scrolling through their feed, they see her standing there embarrassed with the peed pants. Like she's sobbing. What is that? Boom. You got them. You hooked them just long enough that you can now tell them a story. Now, the goal of the story is to increase the perceived value of whatever it is you're going to be selling. And then, excuse me, and then you make them an offer.. And that's it. That's the game. That's how we drive traffic. That's how we sell products with things that we're selling inside of our funnel. And I mentioned this earlier, what's interesting is as you start looking at your funnel, at your ad campaigns, everything, if something's not working, launched the ad campaign. It's not working. Why? It's always because of one of these three things, either the hook wasn't right. It's not getting people's attention. Or if it is grabbing attention, but then they're not buying, that means the story did not increase the perceived value of what they're selling, or what you're selling. And if the hook's good, and the story's good, it means the offers is no good. So if you get all three of them working, then everything works in the funnel. And that's true every page. Like the ad, there's a hook, a story, and an offer on the ad. There's a hook, story, offer on the landing page. There's a hook, story, offer on the sales page. Hook, story, offer on the upsell page. Hook, story, offer on the down sell page. Every single page in the funnel has a hook, a story, and an offer. This video alone, literally, I'm here with you guys. This video is a hook. There's a whole bunch of hooks around me. There's the books, the pictures. There's me reading a story. There's me being all animated. There's stuff like that. There's a headline. It's the hook, story, offer, attracted character on Facebook. It wasn't on Instagram because I can't do headline on Instagram. But that was the hook. And so far, live, I've gotten about 200 people on Instagram and about 350-ish on Facebook. So 500 people, boom, and with a second scroll because hook grabbed you guys to get your attention. Now, I have your attention. Now my job is to tell you a story. And the goal of my story is to increase the perceived value of the offer I'm going to be making. So I'm telling you a story about this book. I'm talking about it. I'm reading parts of it to you. I'm getting you excited, where you like, "Oh my gosh, I need that book." And if I've done my job right, if the story is good, it's increased the perceived value of this book. And then I make you the offer. Like, "Hey, I want you to go to trafficsecrets.com and get a copy of his book right now." Here's my offer so the offer is this book normally sells on Amazon for 24 95. You can get it for free at trafficsecrets.com. It's pre-launch right now, but you can get it for free. You just pay 9.95 shipping and handling, and I'll ship one out to you, as soon as we start shipping on May 5th. And then on top of that, I've got five bonuses you can go through immediately. There's five different videos you get for free. And you get this video. Each video is over an hour long of some of the greatest traffic minds on the planet. One was an hour long presentation that I gave at funnel hacking live. One's an hour long presentation, or a 30 minute presentation, for Peng Joon on traffic. And then there's Prince Ea. He's got over 3 billion views on his videos. There's a presentation from him. And there's, I'm blanking on the offer, but there's all these things. And now, if you go to trafficsecrets.com, you get this right now. So good. Hook, boom. I threw a hook out there. Got attention of 500 of you right now. And this will probably get, I don't know, between, over the next week, probably a hundred thousand plus views. So a hundred thousand people see this, if the hook was right. Okay. I tell the story. The story should be engaging. We get to know each other. And then I make you an offer. Hook, story, offer. That is the foundation of all marketing, all business. That's why it's now in the DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets and the Traffic Secrets books. It's your job to understand that. Now, in the Traffic Secrets book, it's called hook, story, offer, and the attractive character because it's you. It's your personality. You're the one who's throwing these hooks out. You're the one grabbing people's attention. You're going to have to be engaging. You have to be exciting. You have to be figuring things out. And there's books everywhere on every platform. Like, any of you guys who follow me on Instagram, you go to my wall. Everyone of those images is a hook. Like yesterday, I did an image of me holding a post-it note that had a scripture from the book of Esther that said, perhaps, I'm going to mess up the quote right now. "But perhaps you were born for times of right now." That was a hook to people's attention. There are all this panic, all this fear, and people are scrolling through feed. And then boom, I'm throwing the thing to say, "Look, the S is scary, but this is your time. It's time to step up and try to stand." I hooked. I was telling you a story. And the offer is just people like it. I think I had like 4,000 likes in the first, I don't know, like five or six hours. So hook, story, offer. It's happening there. It's happening there. It's happening when I'm selling, happening in my videos, happening in my emails, happening in my ads. Everywhere you're publishing, everything you're doing, hook, story, offer is there, over and over and over and over and over again. Kim said, "Russell, is a hook just an image?" It's not just an image. It can be an image. Yes. But it can be so many other things. A hook is anything that grabs your attention. And so when you're scrolling through your feed, sometimes the thing is like, in fact, this is your assignment. Tonight, when we got off this, whenever you get off this, whatever you're listening to, go to Instagram or Facebook or YouTube, wherever you're excited about. And just start scrolling, just go through the feed and start scrolling. And notice what things grab your attention. And when someone grabs your attention, stop. And then what was it that grabbed the attention? Was it the headline? Was it the image? Was it the crazy person? Was it something? Was it the comments? There's something that grabbed attention. Whatever that was that grabbed attention is the hook. So I'm making my videos. I'm looking for, I set up this location, right here, for a couple reasons. Like, here's a potential hook that might grab some. You see some books. I could put something on the screen, back here. I'm in my funnel hacker shirt. I'm excited. I'm talking. All these elements are things I'm doing to try to hook people. I don't know what's going hook. Something hooked all of you guys. Some of it's because you know who I am. So that's the hook. Some of it's, you're looking for traffic. That's the hook. Some of you guys just like, "There's this weird guy who's all excited. What is it? what's happening?" The hook is different… your energy is the best hook. So hook is just, it's whatever it is that grabs their attention. So it's all the tools we have in our tool chest. We're trying all of them. We're throwing everything out to get their attention just long enough that they're going to stop from their scrolling. List stop. And then you say, "Okay, cool. Now, I got your attention. Let me tell you a story." I'm telling the story. And again, the goal of the story is to build, to increase the perceived value of the thing that I'm going to sell them next, the offer I'm going to make. And then I make an offer. That's the game. That's it. What's fun is because now it's like when people have a funnel, like, "My funnels not working, Russ. What do I do?" And it's funny. I have people, we do consulting. And it's, I don't really do it any more because it just, I ran out of time. But last time I did consulting it was a hundred grand for a day, and people coming in like, "My funnel's not working. I want to increase." Literally, what I would do, I would go to the ad and look at that and say, "Okay, this ad is doing all right. How can we make it better? Is there any better hooks we could use? Is there a better story you can tell? What's a better offer?" And we spent some time on that. Then we'd go to the landing page. "Okay, here's your landing page. Cool. It's doing all right. What's a better hook we can do? What's a better story we could tell? What's a better offer?" And then go to sales page, hook, story, offer, hook, story, and that's it. There's no magic trick. You want to see the magician, how he reveals his magic tricks. That literally is it. It's hook, story, offer. If you paid me a hundred grand today, that's all we would do. What's interesting is at funnel hacking live two years, let's see, not last year but a year before, funnel hacking live, my opening keynote presentation, I talked about hook, story, offer for first time ever. And I remember Stacy Martino was there, and she said, "I went home that night. And I was like, 'Okay, I need some help, but I don't know what to do. If I was to pay Russell, he would just tell me it's hook, story, offer. So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to think what's my hook, my story, offer'." She started looking at her business. She said, "Oh my gosh, my story is amazing. My offer's amazing. I'm not throwing out enough hooks." She says, "I'm going to throw out some more hooks." So she started doing all these things, and she messaged me, I don't know, like two weeks later. She's like, "Russell, thanks for consulting." I'm like, "hat are you talking about?" She's like, "You told me that if I was to hire you, you'd do hook, story, offer. So I just looked through my own business. I said, 'Is it the hook, the story, the offer?' I realized it was hook. I threw out a bunch more hooks. And she said, "We just had the most profitable month of our entire business because of that." I'm like, "Wow, that's amazing." Like now, you know my tricks. Now I'm useless in the equation. That's what's important for you guys to understand. Your job as marketers is to become good at throwing out hooks that grab someone's attention. Then after you have their attention, tell them a story that builds the perceived value of the offer you're going to make them. And then make them an irresistible offer. When you become good at that, you'll be able to write your own paychecks for the rest your life. So your homework right now is to start going through your feed, newsfeed, Instagram, Facebook, Google, anywhere you're going at and start paying attention to the hooks that are grabbing your attention. And then if the hook grabs your attention, click on it. And then go listen. Listen to what's the story. What's the hook on the landing page? What's the story they're telling you? What's the offer? And you start paying attention. This is what funnel hacking is all about, noticing what's happening and watching it and paying close attention because the way you do this is not going to be magic. It's just you're looking at that, and you're figuring out how do I do the same thing? How do I throw out hooks? How do I tell stories? Especially right now, like right now, the media is good at this. Why is media pushing so much fear? Because fear is a great hook I'm not a big believer in let's throw fear out there to try to sell products. But that's what the media is doing. They're really good at throwing out hooks. They call it clickbait. The clickbait, they're trying to get hooks out there. It's the same thing, but ethical, that you're trying to do. And so that should help. So Mateo said, "How do you help us survive in Corona time?" This is how you survive. You need to build a life preserver around your business. The life preserver are customers. Business is all about just getting customers and serving them at the highest level possible. People still have money. There's the false belief like, "Oh no, people don't have money." It's like, no, they still have money. Money hasn't disappeared. It's going to shift a lot of businesses. People are losing jobs and stuff, but it's like, you understand people have money. They're still spending money on things that they need. Like, look at what people are buying now. There's a lot of things people are buying right now. You have to understand that, and you have to protect your company. You have to build a life preserver of customers. And how do you do that? The best way is to get traffic, people, customers to you, which is why I'm going live every single day until further notice about this Traffic Secrets book because that's what I'm talking about. I know I have an interview. I got to jump off. It's happening in three minutes. So I'm going to bounce, but I want all you guys right now, it's time right now, during this moment of fear and frustration and quarantine and whatever the season we're in right now, this is the time for you to sharpen your saw and become better. I recommend going to trafficsecrets.com, getting copy of the free book. The book doesn't ship until May 5th. But the order form bump, the upsells is the audio book, which is seven hours of me reading the book. You can get it today. It's ready right now. So that's happening. And then, like I said, I'm going live every day during the weekday, going through chapter by chapter. So go pay attention. Go back and watch and start learning these principles. Even while you're waiting for the book, you can start understanding these principles and start becoming better at them. And test some hooks today. Post something on your Instagram wall or your Facebook wall or wherever you post stuff and test a hook out. See if you can get someone's attention. And just practice your hooks because the better you get at hooks, the more people. That's kind of game plan. So, all right, that's it you guys. It's time. Go get your book at trafficsecrets.com. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for hanging out today. You're all amazing. And I hope you guys enjoy your time in quarantine. I know it's scary and stressful times, but we need to be focusing on the positive and focusing on building life preservers around your business, which is traffic. It's customers. It's people. And so let's focus all about how to get, not just customers. If I can get this down here, not just customers, but how to get your dream customers, the right ones, the ones you actually want to serve into your business. And so that's the game plan. All right. Thanks guys. Appreciate you all. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. All right. Bye everybody.

Tune in now and don't forget to sign up for www.solciety.co!Speaker 1 (00:03):Welcome to the Solarpreneur podcast, where we teach you to take your solar business to the next level. My name is Taylor Armstrong and went from $50 in my bank account and struggling for groceries to closing 150 deals in a year and cracking the code on why sales reps fail. online teach you to avoid the mistakes I made and bringing the top solar dogs, the industry to let you in on the secrets of generating more leads, falling up like a pro and closing more deals. What is a Solarpreneur you might ask a Solarpreneur is a new breed of solar pro that is willing to do whatever it takes to achieve mastery. And you are about to become one what's up SolapreneursSpeaker 2 (00:42):Taylor Armstrong. Here we are back with another great week, another awesome week of content for the podcast. So before we get into the show today, you are going to learn how to recruit more quality reps, how to stop losing reps. And we're going a little, get a little podcast preview for the week. What else do we have coming up here? So before we dive into that, I wanted to have a rather ask a special request. We are at 96 reviews on iTunes, on podcasts. And my goal is I want to get to a hundred reviews. So if you could please do me a favor, we need four more, who are my four players that are, that are going to come in clutch. I need four superstars to go and leave me an awesome review. And then we're done no more reviews after that. I'm just kidding.Speaker 2 (01:36):You can be number one oh one if you want, but I would really appreciate it. If you could go leave a review and let's get to a hundred reviews, let's change some lives and then also share the podcast. If it has helped you so special request, please do me a favor, help me out. Yeah, but besides that, we've got a great week of content here at Solarpreneur. Today, we're going to be talking a little bit about recruiting. Some things you can do to improve on that and actually really kind of the focus of the week because our special guests we have coming on later in the week is River Skinner. You may have seen him. He's big on Instagram. He's got a podcast and we've got them coming up later this week on the show. So I'm stoked to have him. Um, and he actually spoke at door to door Fest in Dallas, that I was at a few weeks back at the time of this recording, he had dropped some serious value on us and shared some ways that we can recruit shared some things that he does, um, have helped him win awards for being top recruiter.Speaker 2 (02:41):Um, recruit a team of, I think he had 75 reps at one point huge teams. So he has some serious secrets he's going to share with us. You don't want to miss out on the next one. So today I'm going to kind of give an update on a few things that happened on the recruiting front here in my office, in San Diego, and then just kind of preview a few things. Give my thoughts on a few things that actually River spoke at the events and hopefully get you excited to go hear what the next episode brings. So let's get into it. Um, this week on the recruiting front, I had sort of a loss good and bad. Um, so the bad news is we lost one of our top dudes to another team, but the good news is he is still on, um, in our office.Speaker 2 (03:30):He's just on the north team. Um, so what happened was, um, he he'd been working with us for awhile. He might listen to this. So hopefully me saying this will get them to come back and join our team again. But he'd been working with us for a while, was doing good, having some successes, we got them trained up. Um, but we have, um, he did live more in the Northern area. So he'd started hanging out with guys from the north team, which is fine. Well, yeah, we're in San Diego, we got north NSL team. Um, it's more just the names of the team. We've got guys living in all parts of San Diego, but he started spending time going to the gym with the enemy. Just kidding. They're not enemies, but hard or north part of the team, a few guys, he was going to the gym with them, spending more time with them.Speaker 2 (04:24):And um, then he approached me actually last week and he said, Taylor, um, Hey man, I appreciate all you've done. Um, yeah, I love the training I've gotten from you. But, um, I just feel like partly because of area and then partly, um, because I've been spending a lot, a lot of time with the Northern guys and they've been coming to some of my closes, things like that. Um, I just feel like it makes more sense to me to go on the north team. I want to hop on their team and um, their closing style. I really like, it's been vibing with me and that's what I wanna do. So I'm like, all right. Um, yeah, I mean, it's the same team at the end of the day, so yeah, you can do whatever. And I was a little bitter about it, all knit, um, tried to be cool, but I was a little bitter.Speaker 2 (05:14):I was like inside. I was like, what the heck? We've trained. You, we've helped you get some successes. Why you want him to go on the other team? And I got to thinking about why did he actually want to join the team? Is he just saying like, is actually because of what he said or why they want to? And I know partly it's because of the reasons he told me, but at the end of the day, I started thinking and I'm like, man, if I would have provided them more value by what I helped him have more success. Um, and he saw that I was the reason he was getting success. Um, my training was delivering more value than anything else. There's no way you would've switched. There's no way. Cause if we can help guys achieve level of levels of success that they haven't seen before, then they're not going to leave.Speaker 2 (06:04):If we can help them feel like family, help them feel part of something bigger than themselves, they're not going to leave. So that's a mistake I made is I failed to give him enough value. I failed to make him, um, feel like family and he wanted to go to the other team. And part of it was because he's good friends with these other guys. I mean, he's going to the gym with him. Um, I actually lost another recruiting battle. Um, a few months back, I was trying to get my, uh, I guess you call my cousin-in-law. I don't know my cousin's husband. He was trying to decide between pest and solar. And um, I'm like, bro, you gotta come do solar. Anyone that knows anything knows solar is where the money is that it's where people want to be. We got people switching from pests all the time.Speaker 2 (06:55):That's what I, I came from. And um, when I was talking to him and he's like, yeah, Taylor, that makes sense. Um, he agreed that he could make a lot of money. There's more potential to make bigger money. Um, but then he left and at the end of the day it's cause he had like four or five buddies selling pest control. That's a big factor too. Sorry to get off on a little tangent there. But if you can help guys just, um, feel like they're part of a family, become their friends and get that environment. Then it's very unlikely that they're going to leave. So I think that's a huge thing that people forget about. Okay. And so speaking of those things, I want to go over three, just points that I feel will help, help you. Number one, recruit more and then help you.Speaker 2 (07:42):Number two, retain the, the guys you do recruit. And some of these are going off of what River shared in his, um, in his presentation at the event. So you'll hear a little bit more of these in depth, um, on the next episode too, but I've got three points. Okay. And I want to get into them here. So number one is add value and focus on becoming a better leader. Hey, so River talked about this. How, if you can focus on becoming a great leader, first focus on becoming a great performer, then you're going to naturally bring in quality recruits. And he talked about the reticular activating system, which if you guys aren't familiar with that, that's basically the part of your brain that, um, recognizes things. So for example, um, probably a lot of people have heard when you're going to buy a specific car, a Tesla or something.Speaker 2 (08:37):You start noticing all the Teslas. A recent example for me is I started doing this, um, program 75 hard, which a lot of you have probably heard of. And right when I started doing it, I suddenly, I started seeing way more people around me doing the same challenge on social media guys. I never recognized, um, their posts. Um, I started seeing 75 heart everywhere. And so what does that have to do with recruiting? If you can focus on becoming a better leader, then you're going to start district and I, as leaders, you're going to start to recognize those traits. If you're developing those leadership qualities, those leadership traits within yourself, you're going to start to recognize those and other potential recruits. You see, Hey, and so how can you do, how can you, um, become a better leader? Well, that's um, yeah, that's a topic for another episode, but you know, focus on reading leadership books, um, focusing, focus on improving yourself, um, yeah.Speaker 2 (09:42):Practice leadership in other, um, and other things you do. Um, guys go to church guys, go to, um, different classes, things like that. How can you be the leader in those settings? That's one way you can do it. Okay. But example that River gave, um, two that can directly correlate to your recruiting is just cheer other people on, Hey, Rivers being on this, he would go and, or he'd still does all the time on social media. He'll add people on Facebook, Instagram, people that are in the industry, different companies, all that and cheer on their wins. This is something that I started doing when River talked about this. I mean, add me at other people in the industry. Um, guys are posting when they're closing deals, Hey, 12 kilowatt system closed today. And naturally I want to be like, dang, I wish I could have closed that a big deal, but try to change that attitude, change it from the jealousy and cheer those people aren't on, Hey, you're going to gain more respect.Speaker 2 (10:45):And that's one way to also practice your leadership skills here. The second point that's very important River also talked about in his presentation is be vulnerable, practice being vulnerable. And it's something that I do. That's why I share my losses too. In the podcast, you guys know, I make a lot of mistakes trying to improve every day, but it's important. Share your losses too. What things do you need to work on? And you see a lot of guys on social media that make this mistake. They're all about posting the pictures in the lamb bows, posting them with the gold chains, with the money flying up in the air, all that stuff. If that's all you're posting, then you're yeah. You're missing a huge opportunity in attracting those people that want to see your faults, your weaknesses too. People love hearing the juicy details. People love hearing what your failures failures are.Speaker 2 (11:41):And I know that because when I've shared my failures, guess what? It gets way more comments, way more people dm'ing me, shoot me comments. Then if I post my successes, believe it or not. In fact, I've had just this last week, I had two or three calls with guys. It's, I'm wanting to hear about some of the programs. We have a sole solciety, shameless plug. If you want to go check it out. But some programs and guys that wanted to potentially come work with us in San Diego, they hit me up. And that was, um, probably the biggest compliments I received. So appreciate those guys that I talked to. And um, yeah, they just said, Hey, I like how you share your losses. I like how you share everything that's going on. Um, it makes me feel like I can trust you a lot more than these guys that are just posts and closing deal after deal.Speaker 2 (12:33):Um, nothing never going wrong. And that's the other thing, establishes trust. Cause we all know guys that are just flashing their Lambo is flip, flashing their wins all the time. They've got losses to Hey, but if, if they can share it, then we're going to trust them. We're naturally an example. This is, um, I'm big in the click funnels. That's kind of a marketing community. Um, but a lady that had spoken at several of these ClickFunnels events that I went to her name's Natalie Hodson and what she did, she sold, I think it was 4 million of a $37 product online, which is insane bonkers. And the way she did it is she basically posted a video of her peeing, your pants, like after a workout or like mid workout and her kind of hook for it was, Hey I'm um, I recently gave birth. Um, and you can see here, I actually just peed my pants during this workout.Speaker 2 (13:36):And so I've compiled a product to help you. So you don't pee your pants for all the pregnant mothers or people that recently gave birth. And everyone just bought this $37. It was like an eBook or something. Everyone bought it. She had self herself herself. And it was just because she had like her message. She had her message of vulnerability. So think of ways you can do that as you're recruiting. How can you share the losses any next time? You're in an interview next time you're talking to someone about the job, be real with them, share your losses, share things that, um, that maybe they don't want to hear. Okay. Cause if you can be real with them, that's how we're going to establish that trust. Hey, and then the last point is do something that makes you stand out is another thing that River talked about is he went and he closed nine deals in a day.Speaker 2 (14:29):Some you might've seen him. Um, he documented it. He set up all these deals on a Saturday, he was working from 7:00 AM to 11:00 PM and he had just backed back, back to back deal after deal. And he ended up closing. I mean, his goal was like 12 or something out of the day, but you close nine, which is incredible. And um, yeah, he told us that when he did that and when he compost that fee, um, he looked at like his post stats and he was getting like, I think triple or quadruple the views they normally got on just like his regular posts he was making because he did something incredible. He did something great. Okay. So for those that are trained, you attract recruits or especially, you know, use social media to recruit and get people wanting to come join your organization. Think what can you do?Speaker 2 (15:21):That's going to blow some people's nines. Hey, can you go close nine deals in a day? And it doesn't have to be incredible as that, but maybe it's, I don't know, doing like a cold bath challenge. Okay. Earl Kapule one of our guests. He does these cold bath challenge where he goes and jumps in ice baths for five minutes. Um, maybe it's um, I dunno, talking to 50 homeowners in a day, maybe it's knocking from 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM in a day. All these things are, I mean, just something that most people aren't doing, what can you do to turn some heads? And if you start thinking that way, how can you, or, um, you will be able to attract some attention and you will be able to, um, get people, you know, hitting you up and saying, Hey, what do you got going? How you pulling this off?Speaker 2 (16:14):Okay. So that's the flip side of it be vulnerable, but then also think of things you can do to, um, to really, you know, turn some heads, get some eyeballs, think of some big accomplishment, some feet you can do. Hey, so that's the tips. And again, you'll hear more about these things when we get into river's episode. So don't miss out. That's coming up here in a few days. So hop on that one, but let me know what you thought of this. Let me know. Um, if you guys appreciate the content like this and we will see you on the next one, don't forget. Please hit me up with four more reviews. If you wouldn't mind five ads and value. 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This learning community was designed from the ground up to level the playing field and give solar pros access to proven mentors who want to give back to this community and to help you or your team to be held accountable by the industry's brightest minds. For, are you ready for it? Less than $3 and 45 cents a day currently society's closed the public and membership is by invitation only, but Solarpreneurs can go to society.co to learn more and have the option to join a wait list. When a membership becomes available in your area. Again, this is exclusively for Solarpreneur listeners. So be sure to go to www.solciety.co to join the waitlist and learn more now. Thanks again for listening. We'll catch you again in the next episode.

Tune in now and don't forget to sign up for www.solciety.co!Speaker 1 (00:03):Welcome to the Solarpreneur podcast, where we teach you to take your solar business to the next level. My name is Taylor Armstrong and went from $50 in my bank account and struggling for groceries to closing 150 deals in a year and cracking the code on why sales reps fail. online teach you to avoid the mistakes I made and bringing the top solar dogs, the industry to let you in on the secrets of generating more leads, falling up like a pro and closing more deals. What is a Solarpreneur you might ask a Solarpreneur is a new breed of solar pro that is willing to do whatever it takes to achieve mastery. And you are about to become one what's up SolapreneursSpeaker 2 (00:42):Taylor Armstrong. Here we are back with another great week, another awesome week of content for the podcast. So before we get into the show today, you are going to learn how to recruit more quality reps, how to stop losing reps. And we're going a little, get a little podcast preview for the week. What else do we have coming up here? So before we dive into that, I wanted to have a rather ask a special request. We are at 96 reviews on iTunes, on podcasts. And my goal is I want to get to a hundred reviews. So if you could please do me a favor, we need four more, who are my four players that are, that are going to come in clutch. I need four superstars to go and leave me an awesome review. And then we're done no more reviews after that. I'm just kidding.Speaker 2 (01:36):You can be number one oh one if you want, but I would really appreciate it. If you could go leave a review and let's get to a hundred reviews, let's change some lives and then also share the podcast. If it has helped you so special request, please do me a favor, help me out. Yeah, but besides that, we've got a great week of content here at Solarpreneur. Today, we're going to be talking a little bit about recruiting. Some things you can do to improve on that and actually really kind of the focus of the week because our special guests we have coming on later in the week is River Skinner. You may have seen him. He's big on Instagram. He's got a podcast and we've got them coming up later this week on the show. So I'm stoked to have him. Um, and he actually spoke at door to door Fest in Dallas, that I was at a few weeks back at the time of this recording, he had dropped some serious value on us and shared some ways that we can recruit shared some things that he does, um, have helped him win awards for being top recruiter.Speaker 2 (02:41):Um, recruit a team of, I think he had 75 reps at one point huge teams. So he has some serious secrets he's going to share with us. You don't want to miss out on the next one. So today I'm going to kind of give an update on a few things that happened on the recruiting front here in my office, in San Diego, and then just kind of preview a few things. Give my thoughts on a few things that actually River spoke at the events and hopefully get you excited to go hear what the next episode brings. So let's get into it. Um, this week on the recruiting front, I had sort of a loss good and bad. Um, so the bad news is we lost one of our top dudes to another team, but the good news is he is still on, um, in our office.Speaker 2 (03:30):He's just on the north team. Um, so what happened was, um, he he'd been working with us for awhile. He might listen to this. So hopefully me saying this will get them to come back and join our team again. But he'd been working with us for a while, was doing good, having some successes, we got them trained up. Um, but we have, um, he did live more in the Northern area. So he'd started hanging out with guys from the north team, which is fine. Well, yeah, we're in San Diego, we got north NSL team. Um, it's more just the names of the team. We've got guys living in all parts of San Diego, but he started spending time going to the gym with the enemy. Just kidding. They're not enemies, but hard or north part of the team, a few guys, he was going to the gym with them, spending more time with them.Speaker 2 (04:24):And um, then he approached me actually last week and he said, Taylor, um, Hey man, I appreciate all you've done. Um, yeah, I love the training I've gotten from you. But, um, I just feel like partly because of area and then partly, um, because I've been spending a lot, a lot of time with the Northern guys and they've been coming to some of my closes, things like that. Um, I just feel like it makes more sense to me to go on the north team. I want to hop on their team and um, their closing style. I really like, it's been vibing with me and that's what I wanna do. So I'm like, all right. Um, yeah, I mean, it's the same team at the end of the day, so yeah, you can do whatever. And I was a little bitter about it, all knit, um, tried to be cool, but I was a little bitter.Speaker 2 (05:14):I was like inside. I was like, what the heck? We've trained. You, we've helped you get some successes. Why you want him to go on the other team? And I got to thinking about why did he actually want to join the team? Is he just saying like, is actually because of what he said or why they want to? And I know partly it's because of the reasons he told me, but at the end of the day, I started thinking and I'm like, man, if I would have provided them more value by what I helped him have more success. Um, and he saw that I was the reason he was getting success. Um, my training was delivering more value than anything else. There's no way you would've switched. There's no way. Cause if we can help guys achieve level of levels of success that they haven't seen before, then they're not going to leave.Speaker 2 (06:04):If we can help them feel like family, help them feel part of something bigger than themselves, they're not going to leave. So that's a mistake I made is I failed to give him enough value. I failed to make him, um, feel like family and he wanted to go to the other team. And part of it was because he's good friends with these other guys. I mean, he's going to the gym with him. Um, I actually lost another recruiting battle. Um, a few months back, I was trying to get my, uh, I guess you call my cousin-in-law. I don't know my cousin's husband. He was trying to decide between pest and solar. And um, I'm like, bro, you gotta come do solar. Anyone that knows anything knows solar is where the money is that it's where people want to be. We got people switching from pests all the time.Speaker 2 (06:55):That's what I, I came from. And um, when I was talking to him and he's like, yeah, Taylor, that makes sense. Um, he agreed that he could make a lot of money. There's more potential to make bigger money. Um, but then he left and at the end of the day it's cause he had like four or five buddies selling pest control. That's a big factor too. Sorry to get off on a little tangent there. But if you can help guys just, um, feel like they're part of a family, become their friends and get that environment. Then it's very unlikely that they're going to leave. So I think that's a huge thing that people forget about. Okay. And so speaking of those things, I want to go over three, just points that I feel will help, help you. Number one, recruit more and then help you.Speaker 2 (07:42):Number two, retain the, the guys you do recruit. And some of these are going off of what River shared in his, um, in his presentation at the event. So you'll hear a little bit more of these in depth, um, on the next episode too, but I've got three points. Okay. And I want to get into them here. So number one is add value and focus on becoming a better leader. Hey, so River talked about this. How, if you can focus on becoming a great leader, first focus on becoming a great performer, then you're going to naturally bring in quality recruits. And he talked about the reticular activating system, which if you guys aren't familiar with that, that's basically the part of your brain that, um, recognizes things. So for example, um, probably a lot of people have heard when you're going to buy a specific car, a Tesla or something.Speaker 2 (08:37):You start noticing all the Teslas. A recent example for me is I started doing this, um, program 75 hard, which a lot of you have probably heard of. And right when I started doing it, I suddenly, I started seeing way more people around me doing the same challenge on social media guys. I never recognized, um, their posts. Um, I started seeing 75 heart everywhere. And so what does that have to do with recruiting? If you can focus on becoming a better leader, then you're going to start district and I, as leaders, you're going to start to recognize those traits. If you're developing those leadership qualities, those leadership traits within yourself, you're going to start to recognize those and other potential recruits. You see, Hey, and so how can you do, how can you, um, become a better leader? Well, that's um, yeah, that's a topic for another episode, but you know, focus on reading leadership books, um, focusing, focus on improving yourself, um, yeah.Speaker 2 (09:42):Practice leadership in other, um, and other things you do. Um, guys go to church guys, go to, um, different classes, things like that. How can you be the leader in those settings? That's one way you can do it. Okay. But example that River gave, um, two that can directly correlate to your recruiting is just cheer other people on, Hey, Rivers being on this, he would go and, or he'd still does all the time on social media. He'll add people on Facebook, Instagram, people that are in the industry, different companies, all that and cheer on their wins. This is something that I started doing when River talked about this. I mean, add me at other people in the industry. Um, guys are posting when they're closing deals, Hey, 12 kilowatt system closed today. And naturally I want to be like, dang, I wish I could have closed that a big deal, but try to change that attitude, change it from the jealousy and cheer those people aren't on, Hey, you're going to gain more respect.Speaker 2 (10:45):And that's one way to also practice your leadership skills here. The second point that's very important River also talked about in his presentation is be vulnerable, practice being vulnerable. And it's something that I do. That's why I share my losses too. In the podcast, you guys know, I make a lot of mistakes trying to improve every day, but it's important. Share your losses too. What things do you need to work on? And you see a lot of guys on social media that make this mistake. They're all about posting the pictures in the lamb bows, posting them with the gold chains, with the money flying up in the air, all that stuff. If that's all you're posting, then you're yeah. You're missing a huge opportunity in attracting those people that want to see your faults, your weaknesses too. People love hearing the juicy details. People love hearing what your failures failures are.Speaker 2 (11:41):And I know that because when I've shared my failures, guess what? It gets way more comments, way more people dm'ing me, shoot me comments. Then if I post my successes, believe it or not. In fact, I've had just this last week, I had two or three calls with guys. It's, I'm wanting to hear about some of the programs. We have a sole solciety, shameless plug. If you want to go check it out. But some programs and guys that wanted to potentially come work with us in San Diego, they hit me up. And that was, um, probably the biggest compliments I received. So appreciate those guys that I talked to. And um, yeah, they just said, Hey, I like how you share your losses. I like how you share everything that's going on. Um, it makes me feel like I can trust you a lot more than these guys that are just posts and closing deal after deal.Speaker 2 (12:33):Um, nothing never going wrong. And that's the other thing, establishes trust. Cause we all know guys that are just flashing their Lambo is flip, flashing their wins all the time. They've got losses to Hey, but if, if they can share it, then we're going to trust them. We're naturally an example. This is, um, I'm big in the click funnels. That's kind of a marketing community. Um, but a lady that had spoken at several of these ClickFunnels events that I went to her name's Natalie Hodson and what she did, she sold, I think it was 4 million of a $37 product online, which is insane bonkers. And the way she did it is she basically posted a video of her peeing, your pants, like after a workout or like mid workout and her kind of hook for it was, Hey I'm um, I recently gave birth. Um, and you can see here, I actually just peed my pants during this workout.Speaker 2 (13:36):And so I've compiled a product to help you. So you don't pee your pants for all the pregnant mothers or people that recently gave birth. And everyone just bought this $37. It was like an eBook or something. Everyone bought it. She had self herself herself. And it was just because she had like her message. She had her message of vulnerability. So think of ways you can do that as you're recruiting. How can you share the losses any next time? You're in an interview next time you're talking to someone about the job, be real with them, share your losses, share things that, um, that maybe they don't want to hear. Okay. Cause if you can be real with them, that's how we're going to establish that trust. Hey, and then the last point is do something that makes you stand out is another thing that River talked about is he went and he closed nine deals in a day.Speaker 2 (14:29):Some you might've seen him. Um, he documented it. He set up all these deals on a Saturday, he was working from 7:00 AM to 11:00 PM and he had just backed back, back to back deal after deal. And he ended up closing. I mean, his goal was like 12 or something out of the day, but you close nine, which is incredible. And um, yeah, he told us that when he did that and when he compost that fee, um, he looked at like his post stats and he was getting like, I think triple or quadruple the views they normally got on just like his regular posts he was making because he did something incredible. He did something great. Okay. So for those that are trained, you attract recruits or especially, you know, use social media to recruit and get people wanting to come join your organization. Think what can you do?Speaker 2 (15:21):That's going to blow some people's nines. Hey, can you go close nine deals in a day? And it doesn't have to be incredible as that, but maybe it's, I don't know, doing like a cold bath challenge. Okay. Earl Kapule one of our guests. He does these cold bath challenge where he goes and jumps in ice baths for five minutes. Um, maybe it's um, I dunno, talking to 50 homeowners in a day, maybe it's knocking from 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM in a day. All these things are, I mean, just something that most people aren't doing, what can you do to turn some heads? And if you start thinking that way, how can you, or, um, you will be able to attract some attention and you will be able to, um, get people, you know, hitting you up and saying, Hey, what do you got going? How you pulling this off?Speaker 2 (16:14):Okay. So that's the flip side of it be vulnerable, but then also think of things you can do to, um, to really, you know, turn some heads, get some eyeballs, think of some big accomplishment, some feet you can do. Hey, so that's the tips. And again, you'll hear more about these things when we get into river's episode. So don't miss out. That's coming up here in a few days. So hop on that one, but let me know what you thought of this. Let me know. Um, if you guys appreciate the content like this and we will see you on the next one, don't forget. Please hit me up with four more reviews. If you wouldn't mind five ads and value. Hey, thanks again for being on a loyal listener of the show. And we'll see you guys on the next episode.Speaker 3 (17:01):Hey Solarpreneurs. Quick question. What if you could surround yourself with the industry's top performing sales pros, marketers, and CEOs, and learn from their experience and wisdom in less than 20 minutes a day. For the last three years, I've been placed in the fortunate position to interview dozens of elite solar professionals and learn exactly what they do behind closed doors to build their solar careers to an all-star level. That's why I want to make a truly special announcement about the new solar learning community, exclusively for solar professionals to learn, compete, and win with the top performers in the industry. And it's called Solciety. This learning community was designed from the ground up to level the playing field and give solar pros access to proven mentors who want to give back to this community and to help you or your team to be held accountable by the industry's brightest minds. For, are you ready for it? Less than $3 and 45 cents a day currently society's closed the public and membership is by invitation only, but Solarpreneurs can go to society.co to learn more and have the option to join a wait list. When a membership becomes available in your area. Again, this is exclusively for Solarpreneur listeners. So be sure to go to www.solciety.co to join the waitlist and learn more now. Thanks again for listening. We'll catch you again in the next episode. 

The Power Of Vulnerability - Natalie Hodson Natalie was able to turn her pain into a real business in a relatively short period of time. I ask her if she was going to do it again what would she do differently.

Natalie Hodson is a Global speaker, Author, Fitness & mindset guru, podcaster, and CEO of NAH & Peak Business Academy. She is also dealt with many business and personal struggles but always found a way to push through. Find out how to cultivate more resiliency in your life as Natalie shares her story. Connect with Natalie on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nataliehodson1/ or her website https://nataliehodson.com/After the episode, be sure to connect with your hosts at:http://www.livingaheadpodcast.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LivingAheadPodcast/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livingaheadpodcast/Kelly:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.moser.180Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelly_moser_/Shay:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shay.alsa.54Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shayalsahhar/Until then, KEEP LIVING AHEAD!Music: https://www.purple-planet.com

Today’s mastermind is another one for the books as we are joined by Natalie Hodson. She is a speaker, CEO, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. She was our guest a few episodes back, so you can go back and check out episode #511 if you want to listen to that. In this episode, Natalie shares with our Next Level University members the power of and what it takes to be vulnerable and authentic in both your personal life and business. Natalie has a gift of answering questions and telling stories, so make sure you stay tuned.Where to find Natalie: Web: https://nataliehodson.com/21-day mindset challenge: https://shop.nataliehodson.com/collections/21-day-challengeIG: https://www.instagram.com/nataliehodson1/Show notes:[0:00] Intro[2:41] A little bit about Natalie and how her business started[4:35] The curse of the 3 Ps[10:59] “All humans are wired for connection.”[12:54] 16 different topics that are universal[14:47] “We are going to hit ceiling in the areas where we have shame.”[19:00] Should you be vulnerable all the time?[20:55] On sharing past trauma when parts of the story aren’t yours to tell[27:47] Do you want to level up in life, love, and wealth? Join our private Facebook group #NextLevelNation[28:21] From being vulnerable to becoming an expert[33:52] Fear of being too vulnerable and losing your identity and credibility[37:54] Where and how is vulnerability helpful in the business?[40:50] How to turn insecurities into confidence within[49:00] Self-belief vs. self-worth or value[54:12] Join the #NextLevelNation on Facebook to join a fast-growing community where you can be yourself[56:00] Natalie’s programs and courses[57:30] OutroFEEL FREE to reach out to us for any reason on LinkedIn, Instagram, or via email Website: http://www.nextleveluniverse.com/Instagram:Kevin: https://www.instagram.com/neverquitkid/?hl=enAlan: https://www.instagram.com/alazaros88/?hl=enLinkedIn:Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-palmieri-5b7736160/Alan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanlazarosllc/Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/The-Hyper-Conscious-Podcast-106871136824274/Emails:Kevin@thehyperconsciouspodcast.comAlan@thehyperconsciouspodcast.com

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena…” Theodore RooseveltYou guys know how much we love to talk about vulnerability because we sincerely believe that if you allow yourself to be vulnerable, we are going to live a more beautiful and meaningful life. So we brought one of the perfect persons to talk to us about being vulnerable and how it brought her to where she and her business is today. Our guest is Natalie Hodson, a speaker, CEO, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. There are so many nuggets of wisdom in this episode that we promise you, you are going to truly enjoy.Where to find Natalie:Web: www.nataliehodson.com21-day mindset challenge: https://shop.nataliehodson.com/collections/21-day-challengeIG: https://www.instagram.com/nataliehodson1/Show notes:[0:00] Intro[2:15] Natalie’s background story, her core belief, and entrepreneurial journey[13:10] Shame and vulnerability[15:15] The “incident” and how it skyrocketed Natalie’s career[24:12] People are ready for authenticity[25:01] Do you want to level up in life, love, and wealth? Join our private Facebook group #NextLevelNation[26:40] How to keep track of information that you want to preserve to share at a later time[28:43] On forced vulnerability[30:34] DROP method[33:37] How to choose the people who can be vulnerable to[36:06] How to handle haters[41:00] Where to find Natalie and what is she working on right now?[42:38] Uncovering shame and forgiving oneself[48:30] “All that matters is taking action”[52:21] OutroFEEL FREE to reach out to us for any reason on LinkedIn, Instagram, or via email Website: http://www.nextleveluniverse.com/Instagram:Kevin: https://www.instagram.com/neverquitkid/?hl=enAlan: https://www.instagram.com/alazaros88/?hl=enLinkedIn:Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-palmieri-5b7736160/Alan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanlazarosllc/Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/The-Hyper-Conscious-Podcast-106871136824274/Emails:Kevin@thehyperconsciouspodcast.comAlan@thehyperconsciouspodcast.com

Natalie Hodson has taught me a lot about running a business, perseverance and even a bit about gardening! Back in June of 2020, she interviewed me on her podcast, and now I am sharing it with all of you. I tell my story about why I left work in the conventional medical system, how I found intermittent fasting, and why I teach the nutritional concepts that I do. I teach them because they HEAL! You can find Shana’s book, Fast To Heal, A 5-Step Guide to Achieving Nutritional PEACE on Amazon in paperback and Kindle versions. It is also available on her website, https://www.fasttoheal.info, in digital format. Work with Shana one-on-one, or join one of her quarterly 28-Day Finding Nutritional PEACE challenges by visiting https://www.fasttoheal.info.  Share your Fast To Heal story with Shana by emailing: shana@fasttoheal.info Follow Shana on Instagram @shana.hussin.rdn Connect with Shana on Facebook by following Fast To Heal, or by joining her closed support group, Fast To Heal Nutrition Support. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1036849436675764 Listen to Shana on the Fast To Heal Stories podcast: Fast To Heal stories on iTunes If you like this podcast, make sure to subscribe to the show so you don't miss an episode! I always appreciate your honest review.  

Natalie Hodson is a mom of two and an influencer who is best known for her ability to connect with women and their real-life situations. Natalie's wildly popular blog and social media presence gets more than 3 million monthly unique visitors. Her greatest strength with audiences is her ability to present the most understandable content, with a flair of vulnerability- making her instantaneously likeable for any audience. Natalie has built a multi-million dollar empire in just three short years writing and selling digital products: ebooks, membership sites, and courses. This is a very exciting episode where Natalie talks to me about her pivot in her business. She went through a massive change in the past couple years and it is inspiring to learn about! You can find Natalie on instagram @nataliehodson1 Detailed show notes are available here: https://www.profitablecourses.com/blog/Natalie-Hodson

Michelle is a coach, consultant, speaker and most importantly a Facebook ads specialist. She has helped a lot of big influencers like Jenna Kutcher, Julie Stoian, Natalie Hodson and many other big names out there to generate over $20 million in revenue. I had an opportunity to have a chat with an expert, I was so impressed with her performance in advertisement field. So I decided to invite her and talk about Facebook ads. Top 3 BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS:  (1) Step-by-step to scale ads (2) Picture vs video ads, and which can get more leads. (3) One powerful tip to get more buyers through ads. Visit www.michellebridger.com to know more about Facebook Ads. Get free gifts from Michelle at www.michellesfreegift.com Connect with me on Facebook: facebook.com/asyraafero. Join the waitlist for my upcoming book: rebrand.ly/podcastbook

The most common question asked in the Cashflow Tactics community is what should people invest in. Brad, Ryan, and Jimmy are often grilled on what the hottest asset is or where they should look for their next investment property or opportunity. While these questions aren’t inherently bad or wrong, it often overlooks the most important investment of all. You! Today’s guest is such an advocate for nurturing ourselves and remembering that we are our own best investment. Natalie Hodson is a successful entrepreneur and speaker in the health and wellness space. She has had to overcome a lot of money mindset issues in her own life to get where she is today. In this interview with Natalie we will discuss how you can RISE UP and live free no matter where you start. Freedom is earned by taking clear and decisive action.  Key Takeaways:The weight of our money mindset (3:55)Facing the reality of where we’re at (10:44)How to build true self-confidence (15:48)Natalie’s entrepreneurship journey (18:43)Number one shame trigger for men (24:42)How trust is created (27:59)--Additional Resources:Join our Cashflow Tactics GroupTake our FREE 5-day Cashflow Tactics ChallengeSign up for our Freedom Fast Track training courseFind Natalie on her website, Instagram, and the infamous workout video that helped her grow her following.----Subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast app so you never miss an episode!If you enjoy listening to the Rise Up Live Free podcast, leave us a rating and a review on Apple Podcast!!

I'm always trying to find ways to live a more authentic life. As entrepreneurs, this can be especially hard because we feel we have to wear different masks: the “leader” at work, the “caretaker” at home, the strong one, the funny one, the “figure it out” one. If we're not careful, we end up building businesses or communities that we don't really feel a connection to because we did not build them from a place of authenticity and vulnerability.  On this episode of The Amplify Show, I talk with Natalie Hodson. I've known her for a couple years and have always admired her ability to share her heart while still earning respect and being a strong leader. In this episode, she tells her story of building a multimillion-dollar business after going through a divorce, navigating life as a single mom, and even peeing her pants on video- yup, we talk about her accidental viral fitness video! She talks about why she's so open with her experiences and how to be vulnerable and authentic, especially as a business owner.  We get pretty deep about some of our experiences and I specifically ask her about some of my biggest hangups I experience in being transparent about failures, life challenges, and hardship. Natalie also shares advice for handling shame, criticism, and trauma (yes, EMDR therapy works!). You don't have to own a business or have experienced significant trauma to learn from Natalie in this podcast, so take a listen.  Topics discussed with Natalie Hodson on this episode of The Amplify Show: [6:30] Her embarrassing story of peeing her pants that led to a shift in her business [9:25] People crave vulnerability and connection [12:10] Natalie's tip for being authentic even when it feels hard  [13:40] The formula Natalie uses to tell vulnerable stories [16:00] Handling criticism & haters online [19:30] Natalie talks about shame and vulnerability  [22:00] Emily and Natalie talk about their experiences with EMDR Therapy  [27:00] Taking off the mask of perfection [31:45] How to separate your identity from your actions [36:00] Natalie talks about the 3 mentors she modeled and how she did it “As humans, we want connection. We want to be seen and heard. And I believe the more you own your stories, the less power those stories have over you.” -Natalie Hodson Connect with Natalie Hodson: Website Instagram Facebook Connect with me: Website   Instagram  Facebook  This episode was first published at www.emilyrichett.com/2020/04/10/episode-16-marketing-with-connection-authenticity-and-vulnerability-with-natalie-hodson

Feeling stuck? If you're feeling stuck in motherhood, your career, in a relationship with a loved one or anything in between, tune in to hear Natalie Hodson's 5-Part-Framework to getting UNSTUCK so that you can become the woman you were meant to be. https://www.nataliehodson.com

There's a lot that goes into unleashing your vulnerability, the main thing being the meaning you give to your identity. Every one of us has failed but that doesn't mean that we are failures. With her close family member attempting suicide Natalie is not unfamiliar with the heart breaks that come from mental illness, especially depression and anxiety in her own life. Through sharing her stories she not only allowed herself to be helped but she also unleashed the movement of other amazing people who struggle with us in battling with our mental health on a daily basis.

In this episode of The Happy Hustle Podcast Natalie and Cary go deep on the power of owning your story and sharing your vulnerability in order to create massive success.  Natalie Hodson is a mom of two and an influencer who is best known for her ability to connect with women and their real-life situations. Natalie's wildly popular blog and social media presence gets more than 3 million monthly unique visitors. Her greatest strength with audiences is her ability to present the most understandable content, with a flair of vulnerability- making her instantaneously likeable for any audience. Natalie has built a multi-million dollar empire in just three short years writing and selling digital products: ebooks, membership sites, and courses.   Natalie is a highly sought after speaker and has spoken on stages for: Brendon Burchard, Grant Cardone, Dave Ramsey, Birth Without Fear Conference, Russell Brunson, Dean Graziosi, and many more.  Natalie has a podcast called “Pulling Back The Curtain with Natalie Hodson” that is consistently ranked in the top 200 business podcasts, is an avid outdoorsman, and hosts outdoor wilderness retreats for women. She holds two state records in Idaho for her fishing skills! Natalie is such an awesome human being, I know you guys are going to love this episode! She is definitely a Happy Hustler and shares her message unapologetically with the world while delivering massive value!  For more info check out www.caryjack.com/podcastin Love and Light fam!

If you had to start from scratch what would you do?  Most people if not pushed will do very little with their life.  However, if your life depended on it.  ⠀ ⠀ If you had to raise £100,000 in less than a month  or else your kids would die Would you be prepared to do anything? That being said I interviewed the worlds best out there And let's see what they say Here is Natalie Hodson who has made over a million in just 4 months selling ebooks....holy god 

In this episode, Matt, Jessica, and Steve will share part two of their conversation with Natalie Hodson on her Pulling Back the Curtain Podcast. They will dive into everything from religion, divorce, and dating, with each one sharing their own personal experiences on those topics, while Natalie will talk about how she is making all types of relationships work in her life.Matt, Jessica and Steve will also talk about their very atypical relationship and how they co-parent together while maintaining the utmost respect for each other. This episode will be very beneficial to you no matter what relationship situation you are in, so stay tuned.Highlights of the discussion:How and when Matt and Jessica met (01:20)Navigating the legit gay community in Boise (06:19)Dating is hard no matter who you are (09:28)Natalie’s ideal guy and her current dating life (15:35)Continuing forward by being genuine and real (22:52)Going through a vulnerability hangover (29:52)Dealing with negative feedback (34:17)Additional Resources:https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic--Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts.If you haven’t already, please rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts!

I am joined by the first author of one of my favourite research papers: The impact of acute and chronic strenuous exercise on pelvic floor muscle strength and support in healthy nulliparous women. Dr Monique Middlekauff (Registered Clinical Exercise Physiologist, Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist, Higher Education Teaching Specialist, and former volleyball athlete) joins me to discuss details of this study, including her amazing team Drs. Marlene Egger, Janet Shaw, and Ingrid Nygaard.  We talk about specifics of this study which looked at women doing CrossFit compared to women walking for exercise, the fun of her PhD and running this study, her online work, and her love and passion in helping people (you cannot miss the passion in her voice!). Links (also highlighted in text above): Instagram: @exerciseandsportscience Fitness for Us  Instagram:@fitnessforus_monique Abs, Core & Pelvic Floor - online content with Natalie Hodson

In this episode, Matt, Jessica and Steve will share the conversation they had with Natalie Hodson on her Pulling Back the Curtain Podcast. They will talk about everything from religion, divorce, and dating, with each one sharing their own personal experiences on those topics.Matt, Jessica and Steve will also talk about their very atypical relationship and how they co-parent together while maintaining the utmost respect for each other. This episode will be very beneficial to you no matter what relationship situation you are in, so listen in.Highlights of the discussion:The coolest co-parenting relationship (00:52)Doing the things that make you happier (05:17)Navigating through divorce (13:29)Jessica not wavering on their Mormon standards (18:58)Dealing with infidelity and learning to forgive (21:23)Coming to terms with things you can’t control (32:56)Connect With Natalie:Natalie's podcastFollow Natalie on InstagramAdditional Resources:https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic--Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts.If you haven’t already, please rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts!

Josiah sits down with Natalie Hodson, the CEO of NAH, Inc., public speaker, author and an outdoor enthusiast.She shares her journey on how started a blog sharing her workouts and meals plans and built it into a successful seven figure business, by creating content around her life and passion, while also going through a divorce and raising two kids.https://nataliehodson.com/

In this episode, I’ll be welcoming Natalie Hodson, an incredible entrepreneur who has helped tens of thousands of women all over the world, and yet remains a mom, humble individual, and a great fan of outdoor adventures. Natalie comes on to share the incredible story of how vulnerability helped her make a million dollars in 4 months from a $37 eBook, and we also dive into the issue of mindset, identity, faith, political correctness, so much more. It’s gonna be a long but super resourceful episode. See you on the inside. Key Points Discussed: Missing a trip to the Bahamas with Natalie and Russell Brunson (03:34) Accidentally falling into the fitness space (05:53) $1 Million in sales in 4 months on a $37 eBook (10:36) Overcoming the biggest vulnerability hangover imaginable (14:16) Dealing with backlash from family (20:47) We only have control over our attitude and our effort (27:25) Identity is the story you tell yourself about yourself (28:57) Uncertainty creates growth and that creates progress (32:18) Believing in something makes it possible and easy to accomplish (39:02) Having anchors that keep you going (45:14) Doing the daily gratitude journal (59:55) The importance of understanding people in achieving sales success (01:08:13) Building a brand off of vulnerability (01:10:35) You can find the transcripts and more at www.thinkdifferenttheory.com/91 Additional Resources: The Four Agreements by Miguel Ruiz Natalie’s Website Natalie on Instagram -- Be sure to follow me on Instagram @joshforti Subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify, Google, Stitcher, or anywhere else you listen to your podcasts. You can find this episode plus all the previous episode here. Be sure to grab a copy of The Mindshift Playbook here. If you haven't already, please rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts!

On this episode Dave talks about a storytelling process he recently heard about from Natalie Hodson. Here are some of the things you’ll hear about: When things happen to you, how and why you should record a video of yourself in those situations. What it means to “document the process” Why it is important to convey raw and pure emotion in your story telling So listen in to hear about the difference of telling a story as if it were a wound or a scar.

I am so excited to introduce you to Natalie Hodson (if you don’t already know her). Natalie is a mom of two, and an influencer in the world of fitness. She is the co-author of an e-book called “Abs, Core and Pelvic Floor” for women who have experienced diastasis recti (mommy pooch) from pregnancy. She also has created several workout and nutrition bundles for before, during and after pregnancy in addition to many other things. Recently, she started a podcast called “Pulling Back the Curtain” where she explores topics that most people simply won’t talk about. She is known for being real, genuine, raw and vulnerable, and has been a huge source of inspiration for so many women from all walks of life.

Today I'm talking with the CEO of NAH, Inc. and my friend, Natalie Hodson. She does it all including raising 2 wonderful kids, running a very successful company and hosts her own podcast called, Pulling Back the Curtain with Natalie Hodson. In our interview, Natalie talks about how she found the strength and courage to do it on her own and shares her tricks on how to get started and be efficient at whatever it is you would like to accomplish. I love our conversation about just starting somewhere. Even Apple had to start with a version 1.0. You can find Natalie on her website: www.nataliehodson.com or on Instagram at: www.instagram.com/nataliehodson1. Also, be sure to check out her podcast called Pulling Back the Curtain on any podcast listening app. You can get tickets to my You ROCK Workshop here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/you-rock-workshop-with-monica-tanner-tickets-59080178404. I would love to see you there!

Today I’m talking with the CEO of NAH, Inc. and my friend, Natalie Hodson. She does it all including raising 2 wonderful kids, running a very successful company and hosts her own podcast called, Pulling Back the Curtain with Natalie Hodson. In our interview, Natalie talks about how she found the strength and courage to do it on her own and shares her tricks on how to get started and be efficient at whatever it is you would like to accomplish. I love our conversation about just starting somewhere. Even Apple had to start with a version 1.0. You can find Natalie on her website: www.instagram.com/nataliehodson1 (http://www.instagram.com/nataliehodson1) . Also, be sure to check out her podcast called Pulling Back the Curtain on any podcast listening app. You can get tickets to my You ROCK Workshop here:  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/you-rock-workshop-with-monica-tanner-tickets-59080178404 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/you-rock-workshop-with-monica-tanner-tickets-59080178404) . I would love to see you there!

Episode 15: Everyone hears about the importance of doing your kegels, but do you know that kegels are only a small part of toning your pelvic floor? And it's not just moms who have pelvic floor dysfunction. Many women don’t decide to do anything about their pelvic floor issues until they have symptoms. They can range from degrees of incontinence to discomfort during sex, a heaviness or bulging in the vagina or rectum to separation of the abdominal muscles with pregnancy- and more! Listen to find out why it’s common for women to pee a little when they sneeze or cough but why this shouldn’t be considered normal. Learn how to contract your pelvic floor muscle properly, keys to proper exercises and how important breath work is in the health of your pelvic floor.Things to try: MUTU System, Natalie Hodson, The Bloom MethodSubscribe to the podcast to catch every episode. Follow us on Instagram at #wineandgyn and @wine_and_gyn, and join our discussion forum on Facebook called Wine & Gyn Community.

Listen to the final part of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I dive deeper into understanding and mastering hooks. On today’s episode you will hear part 4 of 4 of Russell’s first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Find out why the hook is a little harder to catch onto, but why it’s also the most important part. Find out why you should practice different hooks, much like a comedian practices different jokes. And find out how you can find examples of other hooks proven to work, and model your own after them. So listen here to the exciting conclusion of Russell’s keynote presentation at Funnel Hacking live this year. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. You are about to listen to part 4 of 4 of my keynote presentation from Funnel Hacking Live, the exciting conclusion of this presentation. We’ve talked about offers, we’ve talked about stories and now we’ve dived into the hooks. And the hooks aren’t something that take as much time to explain, but it’s probably one of the hardest parts for people to do. So make sure to pay a lot of attention to this part of it and start thinking through what are the hooks you could be throwing out. And hopefully you notice allt he hooks I throw out. I’m throwing out hooks every single day between my podcasts and the blog posts and the Facebook live’s, and Instagrams and on and on and on. So hooks are the key because that’s what gets somebody’s attention and let’s them focus on your story so then you can make them your special offers. So I hope you enjoy the exciting conclusion of my keynote presentation at Funnel Hacking Live. With that said, I’m going to queue up the theme song, and then we’ll jump right in to part 4 of 4 of my presentation. Okay, I’m going to go over the last step. We talked about offer, we talked about story, the last piece in this is the hook. So what is the hook? To understand this really well, I want you guys to imagine what happened right before you probably came into this room. You were in the bathroom and you were sitting kind of like this, and most of you had your phones and you’re going like this. So what a hook is, is the thing that makes you stop and be like, “Whoa.” That’s a hook. This is how I judge my hooks. I imagine all of you guys swiping and what’s going to make you like, “Whoa, hold on. I gotta finish so I can find out what that thing is.” This is literally what’s happening, in case you’re wondering like, ‘Oh my customers don’t do that.” They do. I was in the airport two days ago, I walk into the airport and for the women I’m so sorry you have to find out about how gross and disgusting men are. But there’s a dude swiping while he’s…I’m like, seriously. Put it in your pocket for like 30 seconds, it doesn’t take that long. It was just amazing. That’s what they’re doing. So you gotta imagine, this is what’s happening in today’s world. It’s not that they’re sitting at their desktop, studying you and reading things and researching. What’s happening is this. They’re flipping through their phone and seeing their friends and their pictures and their profiles and their cat videos and thing after thing after thing after thing. And your ad has a shot in there for like 1 second, probably less, in the middle of the scroll. If you don’t stop them right there and they don’t say, “Hold on, put the phone down, I gotta come back and check this out.” You’ve failed. The hook is the key. Without a good hook nobody will ever hear your story, without a good story no one will care about your offer. Now the hook in and of itself does not provide, does not increase the value. The hook does not increase the value of what it is you’re selling. What the hook does is it grabs your attention long enough that they’ll listen to your story. The story increases the value and then the offer increases the value. The hook grabs them just long enough that you can tell them the story. So every story you have has multiple hooks. That’s why it’s so important for you guys to be publishing and putting things out there all the time because I have no idea what hooks are going to land, which ones people are going to resonate with and which ones don’t. I was at a retreat, like a mastermind group with Brendon Burchard and Dean Graziosi and a bunch of really cool people, both of whom are going to be here this weekend speaking with you guys, it’s going to be amazing. And we’re sitting around the campfire and Dean told this story that was so good. He said, “It’s interesting, if you look at a comedian, you see them on the Tonight show and they pick up the microphone and they do their thing. They do the thing and they land it and everyone’s like, ‘oh my gosh, this is the funniest person on earth.’ You don’t understand. The comedian doesn’t just get up there and do his thing. “What happened is two years prior he got a job, he went to a dive bar over here, wrote ten jokes, got in front of like 30 people and tried his thing and he tried it. He told joke one, two, three, four, five…and one of the ten jokes landed. And he’s like, ‘okay, that joke was good, the rest were horrible.’ Goes back to his apartment, writes 9 new jokes, got the ten new jokes, goes to the next dive bar and gets in front of it, boom he does it. Nails the first joke because he knows it’s amazing, does the other 9 and like 2 of the other 9 work right. Now he’s got 3 new jokes. Then he goes back, rewrites the other 7 comes back the next night. Boom, he keeps doing it and doing and doing it, until he knows he’s got ten of the most amazing jokes in the world, then he gets on the big stage and performs and every single joke lands.” It’s the same thing that we’re doing right now. I have no idea what hooks are going to work, right. So what do I do? When I hear a story in the morning I jump on my phone, I get my phone out as I’m driving to the office. And half of you guys are like, “Russell, don’t drive while you’re podcasting.” It’s like a block, and there’s no anything anywhere. I wish I could show people that. I get…anyway, whatever. So I’m doing my thing, talking and I tell a story right. That’s my first time. Then I come in and I see Dave and Dave’s like, “Ah!” and I’m like, “Ah! I gotta tell you a story.” I tell Dave the story. I tell it a little differently this time. I’m like, ‘okay, that worked. It made sense, he got excited.” Then I go out to the bull pen with all the marketing team and I tell them the story. Then I jump on a Facebook Live, I tell the story there. I tell it 4 or 5 times until I know how to tell the story. I see what lands, I see what hooks that got people interested. Or If I tell a story and Dave’s like, “That’s really cool.” I’m like, “Crap. If Dave’s not flipping out, it’s not a good story.” And that’s how we know. So it’s testing these things, testing it, and testing it. So when you have a story you’re putting out different hooks, like which of the hooks are people grabbing onto? What are the ones that are interesting? What are the ones that people actually pay attention to? And then like, “Cool, now we’ll build things bigger on those.” But you gotta be practicing stuff all the time, because if you’re like, “I gotta, this one has to work. It’s gotta be perfect, it’s gotta be, I don’t want to screw this up so I’m going to wait to tell my story, I’m going to wait, I’m going to wait.” It’s the equivalent to walking up on the Tonight show and being like, “I’ve never tested this material. Let’s go.”  You would never do that, right? Yet we do it in our businesses all the time. You can’t do that, you gotta be telling the stories, telling the stories. Every single one of you guys in here should be Facebook Living your experience today. Seriously. If you’re not, why did you waste that experience. There’s some story that will impact you today, if not me, by somebody else, that affects your life and your customers directly, and you better be talking about that tonight when you get home. Either podcasting, video, facebook live, something to start practicing. It begins tonight. It doesn’t begin manana because manana never comes. Alright so how do you find the hooks that you want to model? So next time you guys are doing this, and you shouldn’t do this, it’s really disgusting, but maybe you’re at your desk doing this, but as you’re scrolling through look at the stuff that stops you. Look at the stuff that stops you and be like, “Why’d that hook work? What was it?” Okay, the Thirty Days book was not my idea. Someone else had a Thirty Days thing in another industry, I was like, “That’s a good idea. He hooked it over there, I’m going to hook it over here.” because it made me stop. Now if you find an ad, instead of just looking at it and being like, ‘That’s a really good ad.” Then you go the ad and Facebook had done the coolest thing in the world, there’s a little tab here that says ads and info, you click on it and it literally shows you every single hook that that person is running right now.  So if you clicked on that right now, you would see, “here’s a couple of hooks that Russell and John and the team are currently running.” “Russell, that’s a lot of ads.” Yeah, we’re throwing out insane amounts of hooks every single day. And you can do this with any advertiser, you see their ad on facebook, you click on their thing and it will show you, here’s every ad they are actively running right now. You can see all the hooks. So every time someone hooks you, stop, pay attention, go look at the thing and look at all the ads and start studying, start looking, start geeking out. That’s a lot of ads, how many do we have on here? Now this is, I was doing this last night. At one in the morning I was still working on slides and I was like, “how do I really sink this in?” and I started thinking about the Two Comma Club winners, the Two Comma Club X winners and I was like, I want to show some examples of some of these. Because you hear these people all the time, right. You see their pictures, you hear the stories and you’re like, “This is amazing, I want Two Comma Club.” Now how many of you guys have actually looked at the hooks that they’re throwing out. If they’re in the Two Comma Club and Two Comma Club X it means they are insanely good at hook, story, offer otherwise they would not be here. So we should be looking at it. So I started looking at it, I’m like, I’m just going to pull up a couple of random people. So the first one I pulled here is Drew. Is Drew in the room right now? I think he is. So this is, this is amazing. Drew owns a company called Fit 2 Fat 2 Fit, have you guys seen his ads before? So Drew is a personal trainer who was ripped and amazing, and I might be telling the story wrong, it’s awkward that he’s in the room, so hopefully I tell it right. But he was ripped and amazing and his clients were like, “Well, you’ve never been fat, so you don’t know what it’s like.” And he’s like, “Oh yeah? This is what I’m going to do. I’m going to get fat, super fat.” So he gained a whole bunch of weight to prove to everyone. He went from being fit to getting really, really fat and then losing all the weight again. Probably not healthy in retrospect I’m guessing, but that is an amazing hook. So you see, here’s like a thousand different weight loss offers out there, “Hey I’m sexy, I’m ripped.” Then you see Drew sitting here with Jay Leno and he’s like, “I went from being fit to fat to fit” and shows the before and after, and that hook is amazing. Boom, Two Comma Club X winner. This is Natalie, how many of you guys remember Natalie Hodson from last year? There’s Natalie right here.  Two Comma Club winner, she’s getting close to Two Comma Club X, same thing. What’s interesting, Natalie’s business prior to this was a good business. She had good hooks, good story, good offer, it was doing well, but never like amazing. Then she came back and she was like, “What’s the hook, what’s the story, what is it?” and she shifted from her other business that was doing okay to this. And you guys remember Natalie’s story? She talked about vulnerability last year. She talked about how she was doing this live video and she peed her pants during it, which is like the most humiliating thing ever, right. And then she turned that into a product teaching women how to control that, and went from zero to Two Comma Club winner in 4 months, because of the hook. Find a better hook. Again, if your funnel’s not working, it’s always either a hook, story, or an offer. That hook’s amazing, her story is insane, and the offer was amazing. A million dollars in four months. Garrett White there in the middle. Here’s a landing page I found of his, one of my favorite landing pages. How is this for a hook? “Attention married business men, learn how to unlock nearly unlimited sex, power, and money without having to cheat on your wife, get a divorce, ignore your children, leave your church, sedate with drugs, or party like a rock star in Las Vegas.” What? How do you not click on that as a man? I could have everything I want in life without all the bad stuff, this is amazing. He’s a master at hooks. If you look at anybody in this club, anyone who is on stage, all the people who are doing what you want to do, you guys, they’re amazing at hook, story and offer. And if you want to be on stage you have to become better at hook, story and offer. So as you’re telling your story, start building your inventory, “What are the hooks I can test out?” Test out this, test out this. And my question is, how many hooks are you guys actually throwing out. You need to be throwing out a lot. Okay, hook story, offer. And then one last thing that I want to kind of show you guys. If you look at this hook, story, offer, this is happening at every single step in your funnel. Your ads, there’s a hook, a story, an offer in your ad. Someone’s scrolling, there’s a hook, you’re telling them a quick story, you make an offer, click here, there’s the offer. Then they come to your landing page, there’s a hook,  there’s a story, there’s an offer. Then they come to buy your product, hook, story, offer. Upsell, hook, story, offer. This framework is essential for you guys to master. It’s so simple. That’s why I wanted to start today, it’s so simple, but it’s the most important thing. You do it over and over and over again. If something isn’t working inside your funnel it’s always either your hook, your story, or your offer. I don’t care what funnel it is. You’re going to learn about a ton of different funnel types this weekend. You’re going to learn about challenge funnels, and summit funnels, and book funnels, 100 funnels, it doesn’t matter which one it is. This framework fits into every one of these funnels. And the last one it mentions, the hook, story, offer, this is the key. Hook story offer is the thing that grabs somebody, brings them into your world, and after you have them, the next phase then is how do we increase the value? How do we help these people along the line? In the books you guys got yesterday, I actually printed off a copy of our value ladder so you guys could see, this is our value ladder. And the person speaking after me is Stacy Martino, I’m so excited to have her. You guys are going to love Stacy. But she is a master at taking people up the value ladder. How do you take people, after you’ve hooked people and you’ve got them into your world, how do you love them and give enough value that they want to continue to progress with you throughout everything else you’re doing? So I am out of time. I want to show one quick video and then I’m going to be done for this morning, and then Stacy is going to be coming out, which I’m so excited for you guys to meet her. This is a video we made last year at Funnel Hacking Live, we showed it at the very beginning. I want to show it really quick, it’s only about a minute long, but it’s going to kind of re-sum up my feeling of you guys as our funnel hackers and why we’re so passionate about this weekend. After the video is done, if you guys could go crazy, do a huge round of applause, and we’re going to bring Devon back out, when the video’s over. You guys ready for this? Here we go. “Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes, the ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, about the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things, they push the human race forward, and while some might see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.”

Everything you see in me now is PRACTICED…   I  want to tell you a little bit about my mindset... and how I installed some of the habits of successful people that I WASN’T born with myself…   I’m gonna tell you why I really am the most UNLIKELY SUCCESS… and how YOU can literally change YOUR brain and rewire yourself for success!   ANNIE GRACE   I recently went on yacht trip to a little island called Bimini...   I've never seen water so clear and still. There were no waves and the ocean was like glass.   One of the things that I wanted to share with you today is something that I learned during that trip from an amazing lady called Annie Grace.   If you don't know who Annie Grace is, she has an entire business teaching people how to break the habits of being an alcoholic.   The level and depth that she’s studied the way the brain works to truly be effective in helping people is incredible.   She has a MASSIVE following. Annie Grace is truly impressive.   I want to walk you through some of the things that she taught while we were on the island because there are a lot of ties with how I've tried to behave…   It’s fascinating to know WHY thing worked as well as they have, and how you can build a new brain that supports your success.   I'm gonna to go over what I learned from Annie, and then tell you why I want to share this with you… THOUGHTS ARE LIGHT.   #1: Thoughts are things.   The source of thought and thoughts are things.   #2: Thoughts are literally electricity with protein.   The thought itself is like a blast of electricity in the brain that travels really, really fast. Thoughts are literally light (which is fascinating in itself).   #3: Proteins build structures around your brain to guide the light.   So when you have thoughts... and when you’re experiencing a new “A-ha,” or whatever... there are little lightning bolts shooting around in your head.   #4: The reason we keep having the same thought is that proteins build pathways in our brain that channel the light.   #5: 80% of what we thought about yesterday will be what we think about today.   #6: Repeated thoughts build protein on protein on protein… and this is literally what establishes habit.   So if you have a habit or reoccurring thought… if you're thinking the same way over and over again, the reason is that you have a build up of protein that’s occurred over time which guides the light (meaning your thoughts) in your head. #7: These proteins actually guide your thoughts inside of your head.   Obviously, there are pros and cons to this…   For Example:   If you’ve grown up in a family or culture were those you're hanging around continually spur the same negative thought.. or continually tell you, “No, you're never going to do this,” then you’ll have a negative reoccurring thought pattern to deal with.   *THIS* is the reason why you really are the average of the top five people that you hang around with.   If I want different thoughts, I need a different environment to help you build protein on protein to help you channel the new thoughts in your head.   #8: The MORE protein that’s have built up in certain areas the easier those thoughts are to have and keep.   (Seriously, how interesting is this! This is really fascinating.)   #9: Habits are literally lots of proteins paths that make it easy for the light to travel.   So if you want different habits of thought… you need to build up different parts of your brain to make it easy for the light to easily travel.   Here’s an example Annie used (this made me laugh), she said:   “If you keep having the same thoughts, or you develop a skill set... the amount of time the light has spent spinning around in your head means that you’ll have MORE proteins built on top of each other.   You physically have a larger part of the brain for those thoughts…   For example, The part of Stephen Larsen's brain on offer creation is huge... it’s massive!   He has a huge bulging area where offer creation exists in his brain.”   I was like, "Oh!"   I thought it was funny.   #10: What part of your brain is biggest indicate your biggest habits.   (How cool is that?!)   #11: Whatever you think about MOST will grow.   This was one of the major things that Annie taught about...  You can physically change your brain.   Your brain is like a stamp of what you actually thinking about.   Her argument was being happy, being unhappy... different things in our life are a result of patterned thinking.   #12: You can completely rewire the brain starting in four days, and be completely rewired in as fast as 21 days.   The first step to break and rebuild the thoughts inside of our head is to gain awareness of the fact that we have a thought that we don't want.   #13:  To start rewiring your brain you need to get clarity on why that thought may be wrong and then flip it. Annie calls this THE A.C.T:     Awareness Clarity Turnaround    STEPHEN, HOW DO YOU…?   Anytime somebody asks me what I do I just say, "Oh, I sell stuff on the internet," because I don't want to explain. (I should probably come up with another way to say that.)   But when I'm hanging around people who know what I do and geek out with me, a recurring theme I'm beginning to be asked is:   "Stephen you seem to move with such ease. You set a goal, you see where you want to go, and then you just do it. You just go for it." This has been commented on multiple times, especially in the last little bit. And I'm like, "Well, yeah."   That's my answer.   Why, if I know what I want, would I sit back and NOT move towards it?   But that question is becoming a recurring theme, so I want to peel back the curtain a little bit to help you understand why I’m able to move that way.   EVERYTHING IS PRACTICED   I've been in this game now for almost eight years. I didn't start publishing until about four years ago...   And when I started, I sucked at it super bad. I was absolutely terrible at it (like, seriously).   On the Sales Funnel Radio YouTube channel you can go back and watch some of the earlier videos. I haven’t deleted them, but I want to. They're that bad.   I’d try to go live on Periscope…   I’d wait for people to show up, but I felt I had to fill the time, so I would just start talking. I didn't even know what the hell I was talking about.   I’m 100% the least likely success story.   I didn't know how to talk. I didn't know how to think. I was kicked out of school. I'm pretty sure a massive addiction to video games in high school. I didn't want to speak to any adults. I didn't know how to study. I was very much overweight; I was 35% body fat. (I'm not just pulling that number out. That was the actual tests I was taking... The little pinching tests and stuff. I was fat.) I was lazy. I had no discipline.   I am the exact opposite person today than I was back then. And I didn't start changing without a lot of just freakin' grit.   What I'm trying to help you understand is that EVERYTHING that you see and EVERYTHING that I've done has been a result of will.   It has not been an accident.   There are little hacks and little tiny, I don't want to say tricks, but there are ways to speed up the process...   BUT… there are very few real shortcuts.   Publishing consistently is a shortcut for making up for funnel building skills or lack thereof... but there are NOT many other real shortcuts to development.   BUSINESS GROWTH & PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT   While we were driving back from the yacht trip, (we came back into the port of Miami) … I was in the same Uber with Brent Coppieters and Natalie Hodson.   Natalie and I were talking, (and it was really nice of her), she said, “Stephen, it's crazy how much you've just blown up in the last year and a half.”   I can't remember exactly what she asked, but I told her that I’d realized that:   My business does not grow beyond my personal level.   I've danced between marketing and systems, marketing and systems.   I have these spurts where just tons of a lot of cash comes in, but then it’ll out-do my systems, and I'm like, “Crap! I've got to pull back and go build more systems.”   This has been true for my business overall and my own personality/ capacity.   There’s NOT a chance I could actually be performing the way I am even four years ago.   *I DIDN’T QUALIFY* My mindset wasn’t up to the challenge.   One of the things that I've really been careful to do in this last little bit is to become conscious of how I'm thinking…   So I just want to give you a few little tips, or pieces of advice (hope that's okay)... on the things that I've done that have made a lot of difference to how I think.   ...Because (going back to Annie Grace), if your brain’s literally getting fatter in the areas you think about most... that's something to be conscious about!   That’s great news! but there’s also some bad news...   BREAKING PATTERNS   # The bad news might be that you have some really fat parts of your brain filled with unhelpful patterns that you'll have to break:   These may have come from your family. They may have come from bad advice that someone who’s poor gave you that you shouldn't have listened to.   (We've all done that stuff, right!)   So we need to become cognizant of the beliefs inside of our head.   The negative could be that we have learned things in our lives that are NOT actually true.   We believe them because we’ve got a crap ton of proteins built up that make it easy for the thought to spin that story inside your head over and over again.   # The Positive of all of this (and Annie taught this), is that you can have a complete rewiring in 21 days. That's insane!   REGENERATE YOUR BRAIN   The body regenerates every cell every three months, (or something like that…)   You physically can become an entirely new human being every three months.   So if you're like, “Oh, my gosh, I'm so tired of this in my life,” or being broke... or having scarcity mentality... or being freakishly negative all the time.   (That is draining to me. I hate being around people like that.)   BUT…   if you're tired of being, whatever it is…. You can change it!   That's the point of this episode.   So my answer to all these people keep walking up saying, "Stephen, how do you move so freely?"   *IT’S PRACTICED*   There's the answer…   There's plenty of times, I wake up and I'm like:   “I don't freakin’ want to do what I'm supposed to do today.”   That happens a lot. A lot. A lot. But I get up.     I use my environment as a place to get me in state. There's no person out there who wants to be doing what they are 24/7.   A CALLOUSED MIND   One of my favorite guys I'm listening to a lot is David Goggins. If you’re offended by swearing don't listen to him. He swears a ton, but I'm a huge fan of his mentality.   He runs these crazy ultra marathons.   I was listening to an interview when someone said to him, "Why do you run if you hate it so much?" And he's said something like:   "What are you talking about? I run because I'm preparing for life. I'm not running to run. I'm running because it's hard and I hate it. I'm running because I'm developing a calloused mind."   I believe everything single thing he's saying about that. That's exactly how I've done it. There's no other way.   MINDSET   When I started doing the Two Comma Club X Program, the Original 2 Comma Club Program, the One Funnel Away... all my other programs, I thought I would be teaching marketing principles…   More often than not, I don't even get to the marketing principles, strategies and cool tactics... because people can't handle them. I can't even get inside someone's business and do what I know will work... because I'm fighting their brains.   I've got to break those proteins down... and I've got to do it faster than 4 - 21 days.   So I've gotten really good at breaking and rebuilding people's beliefs *QUICKLY* ...or at least satiating them enough to try and install a new belief in their brain.   So I'm trying to give you a few little tips and tricks on how I've done this. Tricks is a stupid phrase. I shouldn’t say tricks. There are no tricks…   There's the path and your speed on it. That's it. There are NOT really any shortcuts.   BORROW THE LIGHTYou've got a few options:   You can increase your speed. Don't do anything.   Understand that…   #1: If you're having a hard time believing that any of this works... or believing you could do it… or you don't make any money with it, or whatever...   Understand that you DON’T have to be your own source of light for a while.   If you're like, “I have a hard time even thinking like that…” Don't try and conjure it from your own head then. Borrow it.   I've borrowed light  and motivation from other people when:   Life sucks Something is really hard I lose Something's intense Things are taking longer than I want, or whatever…   I listen to a ton of motivational videos. I listen to a ton of comedy. I'm trying to isolate my brain and borrow light, ideas, thoughts, and positivity.   “I really could do this because that person has and that person has, and that person has... If I haven't achieved my goal  it means I'm the variable, NOT the idea.”   You understand?   BUILDING MIND MUSCLE   I have a playlist on YouTube. I think it's public. Anyone can listen to it. It's called Mind Muscle.     When Annie Grace started talking about this, I was like, “That's how I think about it.” It's so true.   Mind Muscle: I'm literally trying to build up areas of my brain to have consistent thoughts about... whatever. Positive thoughts, new ideas, new things…   That's how I can look at a funnel, or at a business, and just have tons of ideas on how to could solve any problem…   I have a lot of logged hours.   Waaay more than 21 days where I've constantly repeated thoughts trying to build up (now I know) those proteins in my head.   So #1: What I'm trying to help you understand is that if you have a hard time being positive...   (Not that you have to be this freakin' cheery fairy all the time, you know what I mean? I'm NOT positive all the time. I'm not.)   BUT… if you have a hard time believing:   The that what I do is real? That you could also pull it off yourself? You have the ability? The resources? The capacity around you to make it happen…?   STOP acting like you're the ONLY source of the light and the ideas that can install those new beliefs in your head. *YOU’RE NOT* INSTALLING NEW BELIEFS   Go find a ton of playlists or videos (or whatever) on YouTube. Motivational stuff that’s really inspiring to you.   Inspiration that makes you feel like:   “Man, I wanna take over the world, baby. What's up? Yeah!”   Save that, and then listen to it A LOT   Multiple times I’ve laid on the very floor with my phone above my head thinking about and listening to motivational stuff when I can't conjure it on my own.   Every single influencer, every single leader has a support system, and they’ll lean back on it when they're NOT feeling strong enough.   Just understand that.   I think there's this mentality sometimes like, “Stephen's got it all together. Russell's got it all together. All these people who are big, they've got it all together.”   That’s so freaking NOT true. That is terrible crap. That is a HUGE LIE. I'm begging you NOT to believe it.   What we've all gotten good at is knowing how to get into state.   WHEN LIFE’S NOT PERFECT   I'll tell you, this morning I'm tired, man. I'm tired. There's a huge to-do list on my desk. It's MASSIVE. In the past, that would stress me out and I would seek dopamine releases and distractions.   I’d watch excessive TV, play video games, or seek the feel-good of dopamine, the chemical distraction.   I’d try and get myself distracted and feeling good instead of focusing on that massive list.   This is something I've fought.  I had to get over that. There's a huge to-do list on my desk. I mean it's absolutely massive.   I have presentation slides to finish (Actually, I haven't even started 'em. And I'm supposed to have them done in four days from now) which is like, “GAH!”) I have an internal funnel team and I need to set up a whole bunch of stuff for them so that they can do what I hired them to do. I need to edit a chapter for my book.   There's a lot of stuff on my plate right now; there's a lot and it's big, big projects.   ...And when I have a lot of creativity-based things on my head, that's a heavy weight.   However, I've got good at taking those things, breaking them down and belittling the weight. I think, “Ah, it's not that big of a deal.”   Really it’s a HUGE. Freaking huge. It's a big deal. I have a lot of pressure on my noggin right now, but the way I handle it is practiced, my friends.   I could not have handled this amount of pressure even two years ago... even a year ago. It is practiced. It is practiced.   There are protein build up in my head that shows me how to act in my various roles:   CEO Entrepreneur Stage speaker Consistent Podcaster (which takes a lot of work)   I'm just trying to help you guys understand that there is NOT a freaking soul on this planet that wakes up one day and says, "I got it all together!"   “Stephen, how do you have all these pieces together?” I don't!  I just have more of it together than you do (if you're asking me that question).   So what I do is I build up a support system…   Find your inspiration outside of you. Know what inspires you. So that when you're NOT feeling it, you can plug into that. Get your little solar charge... and move on.   So, there are a few things that I do to do that:   Motivational videos. I listen to these consistently. Comedy (even if I've heard it before). I'm trying to keep things light.   I think it was Abraham Lincoln that said, "With all the pressures of my life, if I did not laugh, I would surely die."   I listen to A LOT of comedy, I don't think I've told you that before... because if I didn’t laugh I would surely die.   I'm trying to change the world, but you don't get it without really wanting it.   I'm trying to take something that I have that's very unique. That no one else has ever done, and go and change lives with it. And it’s working!   But you're not going to be successful without really, really wanting it. And I do, and so I'm gonna get it.   So what I want you to understand is:   You need an outside support system. What motivates you. Be very careful of the advice you listen to. Be conscious of who you hang around... VERY careful. Make sure that you are in charge of your energy levels, even, you're not totally feeling it.   Something that I learned from the army:   Fake motivation is still REAL motivation.   And so when I step out and I'm like, “Man, I'm ready to rock the day,” I'm not lying to myself.   I'll have a little Debbie Downer moment where I'm going to experience my true emotions as it is:   “I don't want to do what I'm doing right now.”   I'll have a little pity party for two-three minutes, and then I'll go through the things that help me get back in state.   Listen to Comedy. Listen to motivational videos. Look at my goals. Watch where I'm trying to go and simplify it. I will actively oversimplify the weight of the tasks at hand. (Not to lie to myself, but just make it manageable.) Then I'll just focus on one little piece at a time. Put music on to drown everything out and just move.   It's a practiced system that I've developed over the past eight years.   I wasn't really cognizant of it until about four years ago. I really wish I had someone to guide me back in the day. I just didn't.   I hope that you understand what I'm talking about here...   You can literally change the makeup of your brain, but it doesn't start without your recognition of what you don't like about how you think.   HOW TO TALK YOURSELF INTO FALSE BELIEFS   One of the biggest beliefs I hear from people is, "Stephen, I have shiny object syndrome."   Believing that you have that problem is literally self-manifesting the fact that you have it.   I don't have shiny object syndrome, but I do suffer from insatiable curiosity… and I know that about myself. I'm not going to try and change that…   So I go into the playground zone... and then I get hyper-focused. I say, “NO” to pretty much everything that's out there. That is practiced. I used to say,“YES” to everything.   I equated the number of opportunities on my desk with success and I got nothing done.   That was a very painful period of me.   I knew I had the power to make money, but I wasn't  because I couldn't focus.   I'm just trying to help you guys understand that there's no guru out there, no influencer, no one who has it all together... Each successful person you see had to build these habits in their brain.   Marketing itself is the act of changing beliefs with the intent of a sale. I'm literally rewiring brains with what I do... and I've gotten good at it. But the same is true for our own brains as we move forward. A NEW YOU?   If you're willing to shift up, change, break yourself a little bit, and go through some pain by thinking differently... literally, in a very short amount of time, you can be a new you.   A new life requires a new you!   If you're like, "I want that... but I've never had it before," prepare to change, my friend.   Get real about it.   Be open about the fact that you're freaked out. Name it. There's nothing wrong with that. You should be honest with yourself. Don't act like your pains NOT there...   Don't wallow in the pain. Come up with an attack plan. Figure out a way.   Understand that a lot of successful people, just know how to recharge and replug when things get though... and that's it. That's the secret.   I keep things simple with the thought that:   What I get done today will determine where I am tomorrow.   If I don't get the things I need to get done, then it’s like I’ve done nothing that day.   If I'm building a project, what I get done today will determine where I am tomorrow...   So, I better freaking build and do the things that create a real foundation... and not just fluffy dumb work.   I only work on those things that I can build upon and progress day by day.   So understand:   The whole light thoughts in the brain thing is a true thing. You create your thought patterns. If you want a new you… you have complete power over that. No one else will or CAN do it except for you. Don't expect to be able to do it on your own. None of us have, none of us will, and no one will in the future. Start looking outward. I've never seen anyone EVER show up with a 2 Comma Club Award who did it on their own.   There are over 500 2 Comma Club Awards now. 500 people have made a million dollars. What other proof do you freaking need, right?   For most of them, this is the first time they’ve ever done anything really successful. It's not like they all came these successful backgrounds.   I just laugh every time someones like, "You always have it together." Yeah, that's not true. That's not true for anybody.   BOOM!   Just try to tell me you didn't like that.   Hey, whoever controls content controls the game. Want to interview me, or get interviewed yourself?   Grab a time now at stevejlarsen.com.  

Find out what really happened this year, behind the scenes of the 10x growth con. On today’s episode Russell gives a summary of all the things that occurred day two of the 10x Growth Con Event. Here are some of the crazy things that happened: Hear what Garrett White had to say about Russell’s calling, that had everyone listening in tears. Find out how Russell was still able to give an amazing presentation despite an alarm blaring, and people doing the wave. And find out what prevented people from actually being able to buy Russell’s product at the end of the event. So listen here to see all that went wrong and right at the second day of 10x Growth Con. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Yesterday I gave you guys behind the scenes of day number one of the 10x Growth Con, convention, event, what happened, how I did on sales, and hopefully you enjoyed kind of hearing behind the scenes of it. Now I’m going to take you guys to day number two because I had a chance to speak two days at this event. So I’m going to walk you guys behind the scenes of what happened there later on how my second presentation did, and share a bunch of other cool stuff with you as well. Alright, so I woke up day number two and once again I was nervous. So I woke up, got on my slides and start working on my slides and getting them fixed for this new presentation that I’ve never done before. I’m stressing out thinking, how in the world am I going to do this presentation? There’s an echo, nobody can hear me. And I did my best and got everything ready and then I headed over to the venue. When I got to the venue I saw Dave Woodward and Dave had been helping a ton. Dave is just amazing, an amazing human, one of the hardest workers you will ever meet and just someone who’s amazing at getting stuff done. So Grant and his team was pulling on Dave like, “What should we do? How do we fix this?” So they went and got pipe and drape and wrapped the whole upper concourse of the event, hoping to block sound. They opened up the top of the dome, because after Grant parachuted in they closed it, and it was super humid and hot inside. In fact, I was on stage just pouring sweat off my face because it was so humid. We had captured all the humidity. So they broke it back open, just like 10% open, just so some of the echo could get out. The changed the microphones, they removed some microphones, did a bunch of things to try to clean up the sound, and it was better. Still was not amazing, but it was better. So I got there and one of the things they said, “Russell, you can’t speak as fast as you do. When you speak this fast, everything bounces off the walls. If you’re going to do this presentation you have speak in sound bites. You say something it hits the wall and comes back, you say the next thing, it hits something and comes back. Everything’s got to be spoken in sound bites.” I was like, “Oh crap, I have a big, like a 200 slide presentation. I can’t do that in 90 minutes with that.” So I went in and deleted probably 50 slides to, in fact, some of my favorite parts. Someday I’m going to do this presentation and I want you guys to see it, because I literally do the presentation and in the presentation I show you what I did to do the presentation. It’s so cool. But I had to delete all that because it just wasn’t going to, I couldn’t get it all fitted in there, so I deleted a bunch of stuff. And then one of the big ideas I had for this presentation, I was going to bring other speakers onstage, people who have gone through our training, and let them go on stage and just tell their stories, which I was really excited for. So my second presentation was called 10x Secrets Mastery, and then it was how they could learn how to speak from stage. And I was really excited for this because at the last 10x I had 3.2 million, this one we had just done 2 million the day before. I was going to show them, “Look, how to make a million dollars, or 2 million. How to sell to the masses.” Like most of the people in the room were salesmen, I’m like, “Selling one on one is one thing, but selling one on many is a completely different skill set you have to learn and master, and I want to show you guys how to do this.” So we did when we created this presentation. So what happened, this is really cool. I think all of us were kind of feeling a little bummed out and sad from the day before because we hadn’t hit our goals. So we kind of licked our wounds and all the people who we were going to bring onstage, I had them meet me in the greenroom to kind of go over the presentation so I could show them what was going to happen and we could talk about it. So I brought them in and I showed them my presentation. Now a couple of the highlights of the presentation, I found footage of the very first time I ever spoke onstage, and it was so bad. So I showed them those clips. And I started walking through the presentation, and in the presentation I take two big jabs at Gary Vaynerchuk, which was really fun because Gary called me out on a podcast recently, so I thought, as long as I have the mic and I’m standing in front of 35,000 people, I should definitely make fun of Gary Vaynerchuk, so I did and it was amazing. It was cool because I talked about, there is two ways to become a speaker. Number one is to become famous and get paid to speak. I show how people like Tony Robbins, Schwartzenegger, Oprah, Bill Clinton, Ellen, Richard Branson, Cuban how much they charge for a keynote, which is like $200,000-ish or something. I was like, if you add all those up it’s 1.4 million to get all those guys to be your public speakers. But I was like, at 10x last year I sold 3.2 million, my take home was 1.6 million. So I was like, you can either become famous and make 200,000 grand, or learn how to sell from stage and make way more. And then I showed this picture of me and Gary Vaynerchuk sitting there and I said, “Look, there’s too paths and Gary chose a different one than me. Gary wants to become famous. Gary charges $105,000 for a speech.” And then I showed a slide where I was like, I made 3.2 million dollars in 90 minutes and then I went home to be with my kids and my family. And then I said, “Do you know how many keynotes Gary would have to give to be able to make what I did in 90 minutes. He’d have to give 22. That’s one a week, that’s 22 weeks.” And then I said, I showed a picture of him looking super tired. I said, “You could go and you could hustle and be tired if you want to become famous. Or you could just learn how to sell and make the same amount in one presentation.” And that was jab number one. And I made another jab later on, but it was fun. So for those who love Gary, sorry. But he talked trash about me, so I got my, I got the last word, which was amazing. People were laughing super hard, which was great. Anyway, then I went down and I showed them where they’re going to come in. So some of the people that were coming in to do parts of the presentation, the first one was Garrett J. White, he came in and he was going to talk about his results taking this framework. Then we had Brad Give and his partner Ryan Lee, who they’ve done, they basically used to sell financial services across a kitchen table, and then they took this methodology of selling to the masses and had a webinar pitch and they had 1200 people on a webinar last week, and now they actually just passed Two Comma Club X. They made over 10 million dollars on one of their funnels, which was amazing. Then I had Jaime Cross, who is using the same presentation to sell soap and her oils and things like that. And I had Stacy and Paul Martinos, Stacy came up and talked about how they’re using this to save marriages. Then I had, let’s see, who are the other people? I’m scrolling through here to make sure I don’t forget anybody. Then we had Natalie Hodson came up, she talked about going to the FHAT event and her experience. How she went to the FHAT event and four months later made over a million dollars selling her $37 ebook, which is amazing. Then I had Annie Grace talking about how she used this to help people quit drinking, and then she used it to make a bunch of money at her event. And then I had Myron Golden who was going to come up and do his magic, because he is one of the most amazing humans I have ever had a chance to meet in this world. And Myron, we were going to bring up and have him tell some of his stories and do what Myron does best, which is get the audience to buy. So we were all excited, and you know, I was still kind of nervous because of how bad it had been the day before. And it was funny because I kind of walked them all through the presentation, show them what worked, everyone’s excited and they started asking, “What’s the goal? How many am I gonna sell?” And I was like, “If we can get 100 I’ll be happy.” And Myron’s like, “100? We could do a thousand.” And everyone’s kind of all over the place, and it was pretty cool. And as we’re recording this, it was funny because Dan Usher, who runs the Clickfunnels studio up in Toronto and he’s an amazing videographer, he wanted to capture this thing by having Garrett kind of come and pretend like he was the coach. And it was supposed to be this joke thing. So Garret, they mic’d him up and then he came over and started doing this jokey thing for probably a minute, and then he just like, “Screw it.” I don’t think he said screw it. You know Garrett, he swears instead of that. But then he just like switched over into this, I feel like he was a coach in a locker room like coaching all of us through the callings we had, and how this was a platform we had to share these callings. And it was 5 or 6 minutes long, and by the time it was done I looked around at all the speakers and they were all crying. I feel bad because Annie was back there and her makeup was all smeared. And I looked at Garrett and as he’s telling this to me, directly to me, he’s got tears streaming down his face, and I’m sitting there and I start crying. And all of us are sitting here in this room, just bawling our eyes out, crying as Garrett’s talking about our missions and how they all tie together. Anyway, what’s cool is because we had put on the mic for this thing that we were trying to capture, we captured this whole amazing speech that was not planned, and brought me and so many people on my team to tears. So I actually wanted to share it with you. I got the recording of it, and I wanted to plug it in right here so you can hear what Garrett said, because I think it meant a lot to me and it meant a lot to those who are here. And hopefully it gives you guys kind of a glimpse of your business and my role in your businesses. You know when I was, over the last couple of years I’ve had times where I’m like, what am I doing this for? What’s the purpose, I help people grow businesses, why does that matter in the whole grand scheme of things? And it’s interesting because one of my mentors and friends, her name is Tara Williams, Tara told me, she said, “If you look at your mission, I really think it’s a couple fold. One is there’s people that have so much financial strain that they can’t do anything else, trying to figure out how to get out of financial strain and then you come in and give people the tools they need to free themselves from the captivity of debt or money, and when they free themselves of that, then they can look outward and start serving and helping other people.” And when she said that, I was like, “Oh my gosh, maybe that is my thing.” Because who cares if you guys make a million bucks, or ten million bucks. It doesn’t matter. What matters is if I can get the stress and the pressure of you having to make money off your back, then you can start looking outward and start serving other people. That’s why in our community I look at all these people. All the people who were on stage were all people who were, who had a vision, they had a message and they couldn’t get it out, so they came, somehow they bumped into us and what we’re doing and we were able to help facilitate and get them into a spot where they could take the pressures of money off their backs so they could focus on serving other people. And everyone who was speaking there had now served thousands and tens of thousands of people. Stacy and Paul Martino had saved over 10 thousand marriages. Annie Grace has helped thousands of people beat the chains of alcohol addiction, and on and on and on. So I think that’s why I was so emotional for it. So I’m going to actually plug in that clip right here so you can hear the speech that Garrett gave in the locker room. Garrett: Do you know why I’m here? I’m here because I believe in you, truly. I was already gone for 6 days. This is the longest I’ve been gone from my family in 5 years. I’m here because of you. You’re called to do what you do. I was not called to do what you do. Without you I can’t do what I was called to do. I’m not here for promotion, that’s great, it’ll be great for me, I’m here because I’m in your military force. I’m on your team, I’m in your unit, you’re the general. I run a unit, my men listen to what I say, in the way I’m called. I follow you because you’re called, like we stay here, I listen to your stories. Every single one of us have the same thing, I know the back story, I know what the story is. Yeah, the example is sell soap, but at the end of the day you’re sending a message to women. This shit is serious for me. When I shared with you earlier, the piece that they’re not getting today, and they haven’t gotten so far. They haven’t gotten the reason why I follow you. It’s this thing there. This thing that’s bigger than you and it’s bigger than me. Dude, I love you I respect the f*** out of you. Today I’ll go to war with you, but for something that you have seen long before I could see it. It’s not flowery speech for me to talk about how Clickfunnels did something for me, hey, what can I get from this? Without Clickfunnels, there is no movement of warrior. Without the frames, there is no conversion for men to learn to live and marriages and family f***ing die, in my world. People follow you because of who you are and what comes through you. The software is the weapon, the frame is the game, but you’re the reason. And I love the reluctant hero, I do. I love it. But there’s a piece in you too that’s ready to click. This is the piece that you got f***ing an army, just waiting for that little click of fire and it’s game f***ing over. There’s no one that will stand on this stage, that can harness the power, including me, that you have access to right now, because you built an army and you weaponized them. And you believe in God, and I believe in God. And I know that all of us here are doing something bigger than we actually understand. So out there was a circus yesterday, and it happened on purpose, and it set up what’s about to f***ing happen. From the beginning when you walk on to the beginning of when Martin and you finish it up, every single one of us has an important role to play, which is get into the state that’s required, so that when you start speaking the thing that comes through him comes through you. So that this is seen not as a Russell show, or a Garret show, or any of us, it is not even a CLickfunnels show. It is a movement of people who have been called to lead movements all centralized on one thing, which is waking people up. I see you, man. I’ve seen you for a long time and I know you see me, because in that we see the same thing. And when I get to spend time with you guys that I haven’t got to spend time with, I see the same thing in you guys. So all the frames to the side, the frames everybody knows, 35000 people doesn’t matter, that means that on the other side of a game we cannot see, there are numbers we cannot contemplate, that are currently standing and waiting for you simply to get out of the way and speak. And they’re sitting in the ears of everyone in their seats whispering, “This is the time.” So I’m here because I follow you. My wife’s life has changed because of you. It sounds funny that she was reading her book, but you were the only one that could have got into her. So I’m honored to be here, honored to support you and your calling. And I’m honored to meet all of you, and be here with you. And some of you I know better than others. And this was supposed to be a locker room speech of a different kind and be funny, and the truth is I don’t really know how to f***ing do that on queue. So anything funny I ever say, it’s not on purpose, it just f***ing happens. But this right here, this is why I’m here. And I needed what you had to be able to take this that I feel and take it to literally hundreds of thousands and soon millions. Thank you. Russell: Alright, and I don’t know about you, but again, in the room it had all of us crying. And I’m just so grateful for Garrett because it gave us, it kind of regrouped us and gave us the motivation like, “Okay, let’s get out there, we’re going to change all these people’s lives.” So we got done and then I had to hand the slides off to Jake on my team and Jake ran it to the audio and video guy, and I was like, “Okay, I can’t touch the slides again, here we go.” And so that’s what happened. Alright, so now fast forward 3 or 4 hours later. I was supposed to be the last speaker before the end of the day. And at the very, very end of the day they had some DJ or some Dougie Fresh, or I don’t know, something like that. He’s supposed to be doing some rap thing after me, but everything ran late. So everything was like an hour and a half beyond what we’re supposed to be. But they’re like, “The last thing is like this rapper, so just do your thing. This is how we’re making the big money.” And if you think about this, again from a choreographing of the event, this could have and should have been where this event made its money. It should have been the big payday, and everything should have been coordinated to that. But unfortunately, things happen. So I got back prepared to do my thing and a couple of things happened. Number one, right before I got onstage, and this makes no logical sense and it’s like the backwards choreography, but Grant was onstage and he told everyone, “Hey everyone, we’re going to do 2 for 1 t-shirts right now, but you gotta get them in the next hour, otherwise when they’re gone, they’re gone.” And literally 30% of the entire audience stands up and runs out, right when he’s announcing me. Runs out to go buy t-shirts. Like a $10 offer. It was like, you’re blocking a $25000 offer with a $10 offer. Everyone’s running out of the stadium to go buy t-shirts. Number two is every speaker has been announced from behind the stage, where the thing lifts up and you walk out and it’s this big thing. So I’m back behind stage, about to be announced that way, and then Grant messages his guy and says, “I don’t want Russell to be brought out from underneath the screen again, have him come out from the side of the curtain.” I was like, dude, you’re supposed to be positioning me to be doing the big sale, and then you diminish my positioning by having me come out from the side instead of under the…it’s just insane that he would do that. Anyway, whatever. So I lost the positioning, which hurts when you’re doing a $25,000 offer, then a fourth or a third of the audience was running out of the stadium to go buy $10 t-shirts, and then I was announced and came out. So that was interesting choreography. So I get out there and I start speaking and then an alarm goes off. Literally, there’s an alarm. Somebody set the alarm, and for the first 10 minutes of my speech there was an alarm blaring through the hallways of this whole thing, which is crazy. And then one section of the stadium, they decided to start doing the wave. So everyone’s up there doing the wave, and I hear them yelling and shouting, and I hear the alarm going off, and I’m up there like, “What in the world is happening. This is chaos, I don’t even know what to do. It’s crazy.” But I step onstage and start my presentation, and I start it slow. I say a line, boom deliver a line, wait for it to bounce back. Next line, deliver it, wait for it bounce back, deliver it…and I could feel it, there was something about this presentation that was different, it was magical, it was so good. So we’re delivering the thing and I bring my guests onstage and I have Garrett White come and do this thing and I have each person come and share their part, and it was just beautifully orchestrated. Everyone’s success stories and testimonials just weaved in perfectly, and it was like the perfect thing. Myron comes onstage, does his close, doing his thing and it’s just, it was magical. In fact, Myron leaned over to me at one point and he said, while one of the, I think it was Natalie, or Annie was giving their testimonial and he was just looking at the audience, and I looked and everyone was so engaged. And he’s like, “The worst case scenario you get a thousand people.” And I was like, “Oh my gosh. That’s 25 million dollars.” I’m freaking out. So we go through this thing and we finish the thing and then we’re going through the stack and the closing and we had one more close left and Grant’s team I guess was like, “The Dj’s supposed to be up right now.” And he goes to Dave and he’s like, “You have to get Russell off stage.” So Dave comes over and gives me this look like, you have to end this now. And I’m like, ugh. We had one more, the most important close of the entire thing we have left, it was Myron’s, the best one. And I have to go to Myron and I’m like, “We have to cut this off, we have to stop.” So we didn’t get to do the last close, which is like the most important close of the entire freaking thing, so we missed that one. I do the last call to action and I drive to everyone and said, “Okay, everyone on the floor, the people that paid like $10,000 to be here, there’s a sales table right here on the floor, go over here. It’s $25,000. There’s a sales table over here.” And when we got to the table people started jumping up and running. And upstairs told everyone to start running. And it was so perfectly executed. It ends, pull off stage, and I’m feeling on top of the world. I’m like, “Oh my gosh, the presentation was perfect. The delivery was perfect. People are running to the sides. Everything was amazing.” I go back to the green room, I’m kind of hanging out and relaxing. Oh and then, all the people who were onstage, they were over at the sales tables to go close sales, and I told them, “Look, all the people we met onstage today are over at the table, come over and talk to them, they’re going to tell you their stories. If you have any questions, how this will work for you.” So anyway, that’s what happens, people go to the things, I go back to the green room and kind of relax, waiting for the numbers, waiting for the numbers. And probably ten minutes later Garrett White comes in and he’s like, “Dude, you got screwed.” I’m like, “What do you mean?” He’s like, “They blocked off the sales tables. I was by the sales table and there’s all these people trying to get to me, and they completely blocked it off and they wouldn’t let us come back. I was trying to close sales and I couldn’t talk to a single person.” I’m like, “What?” Then the others came in and they’re like, “Yeah, we got kicked out.” And then Dave comes in later and he’s like, “The Fire Marshall closed off one of the sales tables because there were too many people supposedly on the floor. So the Fire Marshall closed off one, all the people running to the table, the Fire Marshall blocked them. And then the DJ, who was preparing for the thing, his team blocked off the other sales table.” So both sales tables on the floor, with all the 3000 people that paid $10 grand a piece to sit down there, the best buyers in the room, the two sales tables where people were supposed to get money completely blocked. They blocked the two sales tables. There’s no way for people to give the money. It was insane. So I’m like, “What in the world?” and then finally when everything kind of ends and we’re about to leave, Dave comes in and I’m like, “How did we do? How did we do?” I’m thinking like, if we bombed we would have done 100. Based on the presentation and the feeling of the audience, the people running and everything, I’m like, worst case scenario we did a hundred, which is 2.5 million, which is now will be at almost 5. I’m like, I guess we’re halfway to what our goal was. Dave comes up to me and he’s just pissed. So mad. He’s like, “I don’t even want to tell you, but I’ll tell you.” And I’m like, “What?” He’s like, “14” I’m like, “14?” He’s like, “Yep, they blocked both sales tables. We only got 14 people who randomly found us in other spots.” I’m like, “Are you kidding me. There’s no way.” And he’s like, “Yep, and now they’re kicking us out because there’s a rapper that’s going to rap, who will make them zero dollars at this event.” And it’s just like, oh my gosh. So that’s kind of how that one ended, which is just like, ahh, so frustrated. I feel like we executed everything on our side perfectly. So that night we took our team, all 40 of them who were killing themselves, we rented a yacht, and we went on this three hour yacht thing at night, had dinner with them, let them all dance and have fun and it was a good time. And then the next morning we woke up and all of our team went back and started closing deals. Our team closed another, they got 13 more people that they found in the hallways to sign up. So they ended up with, what’s that? 27 or so. I think we had 675 thousand dollars in sales from the 10x. So when all was said in done from the event, I think it was 2.7 million we ended, which again, is not bad. It’s great. But it’s just tough when you’re expecting 10 to make about 3. Anyway, so that was kind of how it all went. That next, that day we just kind of wrapped up the rest of the vacation because it was crazy. All of our affiliates from the 10x launch as well as the people who spoke onstage, we put them on, we were on these two yachts and we sent them to the Bahamas. So they went out that morning on this Mastermind Yacht and started masterminding while they were on the yacht. And then my wife and I had to go shopping for Funnel Hacking Live clothes, so we shopped til we dropped. And then we jumped in a private, in a sea plane, a private plane is a sea plane though. So it’s sitting in the water and it takes off from the water, and flies you over to the Bahamas. And we land in the Bahamas and we hung out all night that night masterminding with all those people, which was really cool, just amazing. So we masterminded with everybody, which is awesome. The next morning we woke up and jumped back on the yachts and went back to Miami. And that’s a whole other story in and of itself. We had, they smuggled somebody onto our yacht, who when we got close jumped off and swam off. They wouldn’t let us, a couple of us missed our flights because they wouldn’t let us off because of passport issues. It was just nuts. But somehow managed to be at the airport, my wife and I flew home and the whole trip ended. So that was the 10x experience. It was kind of funny as we were talking about it. Everything that could have gone wrong, literally went wrong on this trip. But at the same time we had such an amazing experience. Grant and his team, I love those guys, they work so hard. So many things are outside their control. The echoing, the different things. How do you get 35,000 people into a stadium? So many things like that, and they did an amazing job with the event. I think it was a smashing success for everybody. And while I was frustrated with some of the choreography of the event, that’s not their strong suit and it’s something that maybe next time we’ll work with them a little closer on. But anyone that can put 35,000 people in a room is amazing. I don’t even know how that’s possible, but somehow they did it. It was amazing. And the b-roll, the pictures. I’m sure you will see for the next year in every ad of mine you’ll see pictures and videos of all the amazingness, because we got to capture some cool stuff. So worst case scenario, we got the b-roll and it was a really great experience. So thankful for Grant and for Jared, for allowing us to come and partake in that and be part of it. And thank you for everyone who was there, even though a lot of you guys couldn’t hear me. I hope that you heard my message and the love that we have for all of you guys. We honestly want nothing more in this life than to change your lives. That’s why we’re here and why we’re doing this whole craziness, because I tell you what, I could have made 2.7 million dollars sitting at home not doing anything. But we wanted to come and have a chance to share our message, Clickfunnels with you and with everybody who was there. And also because it’s been interesting, you know this whole internet marketing thing that all of us are doing, is not mainstream yet. It’s funny because I feel like, when I got started doing this 15 years ago, it was like this weird thing and people thought that we were weird. And you know, one of the things I’ve been trying to do over the last 4 or 5 years is really make this a mainstream thing. Make funnels a mainstream thing. I want someday where people don’t talk about websites anymore, they talk about funnels. And I’m doing my best and I think this was such a huge platform for us to be able to share that with so many people. And I feel like for all you guys, whatever businesses you’re in, I’m trying to lead the way by making what I do mainstream and hopefully you guys will do the same thing with your businesses as well. So with that said, I’m going to wrap this up, my voice is almost gone. I’m going to get home, play with my kids. Thanks so much for listening everybody, and Funnel Hacking Live is now a week and a half away. I cannot wait to see a bunch of you guys there. I have 5 or 6 presentations I’m doing now to get ready for Funnel Hacking Live, it’s going to be amazing. And I feel like Funnel Hacking Live is our family, I’m so excited to go to that event and just feel at home with my people and people who get me and get us. And I’m excited to share that with all of you. With that said, I appreciate you all and I’ll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody.

A simple 5-step process to finally find your passion. On today’s episode Russell talks about an Instagram post he saw by Tom Bilyeu about how to develop your passion. Here are the awesome steps you can take to figure out what you’re passionate about. Go experiment with a ton of stuff. Identify things that spark your interest. Engage deeply with those things. As you engage, if it goes from interest to true fascination, go down the path of gaining mastery. Fascination + Mastery = Passion. So listen here to here Russell explain each of these steps so you can begin your journey into finding out what you are truly passionate about. ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today’s episode is one I’m really excited for. It’s a question I’ve gotten a lot over the last ten years, ever since I first started talking about business and started telling people they needed to create products and sell them online and how much fun it is. They always ask, “What should I do? How do I find a market?” and I say, “find something you’re passionate about and talk about that.” And what always was strange to me, so many people asked me, “Russell, how do I find my passion?” and I’m like, “What?” for me that concept never made any sense. So that’s why I want to dive into that a little bit more in this episode because I think I may have found an answer. Alright everybody, I got a little excited in the intro and started jumping into it. I thought, Igotta stop, we need the theme song. Or else what’s the point of a podcast? So I’m back. I want to talk about how to develop your passion. This is something that so many people ask me about. So many people, they want to get into business, and they naturally want to know what business they should be in, and I’m like, “Do what you’re passionate about. What fires you up? What gets you excited?” When I first started learning this business I was wrestling at the time, and I wanted to build a wrestling company, teaching wrestling, showing wrestling stuff, and selling wrestling shoes and singlet’s, because that’s what I was passionate about. As I started getting into marketing and business I became passionate about this and started geeking out and all I could think about was the marketing of things, and the selling of things. So that became my business. And I think for most of you guys if you really want to have a business that’s worth while, that you love, not just in the short term, but in the long term is the one that you are going to be the most passionate about. So the question I get though is, “Well, I’m not passionate about anything Russell. How do I find what I’m passionate about? What’s the process?” And for me, I just, I think I was born with this weird thing where I’m excited about everything all the time. So it’s a blessing and a curse. It’s a blessing because I already know, if Clickfunnels wasn’t here, what would be the next business? I know exactly what I’d do next, and exactly what I’d do next. I have an order of the things I’m excited about. I know for myself I could very easily know exactly what I’d do and I would do it. So because of that, that question was always hard for me. I don’t understand, it doesn’t compute in my brain. And then a couple of days ago I saw an Instagram post by Tom Bilyeu, who is the founder of Quest Bar, Quest nutrition, which was recently valued at over a billion dollars, he sold a whole bunch of it. Anyway, super cool dude. I had a chance to hang out with him earlier this year, just a ton of respect for him. I’ve been following him and he’s got a podcast called Impact Theory, which is amazing. And he’s probably the most quotable guy in the world. Our friend, Natalie Hodson, if you guys have been following Natalie at all, her whole house is covered Tom Bilyeu quotes. She writes them all out. Everything he says is just amazing. With that said, he posted something on Instagram that I was like, “Oh yes, this is it.” And I took a snap shot of it, and right now I’m looking at that snap shot because it was like an actual blue print for how to find a passion and I it is what so many people are missing. So if you are in that spot where you’re like, “I am just not passionate.” Or “ I don’t know what I’m passionate about, what do I do?” This instagram post from Tom is amazing. So I’m going to read it and we’re going to talk about it. So I appreciate Tom helping us out with the content for today. So his post said, “How to develop passion.” And he goes through 5 things. Number one – Go experiment with a ton of stuff. Now if you don’t know what you’re passionate about, that’s probably because you’re not trying enough things. Go do a bunch of things. Just go randomly try tons of stuff. Try bowling, try basketball, try running, try playing games, try reading books, try reading more books, try listening to podcasts. Just experiment with a ton of stuff until you find stuff that starts peaking your interest. That’s number one, go experiment with a ton of stuff. Number two – Identify things that spark your interest. So as you’re going through this thing where you’re just trying a whole bunch of stuff, what are the things that peak your interest? What is it you’re like, “Oh that is cool. I want to learn more about that.” What is it you get deeper into? What are the things when you’re scrolling on instagram stop you and you’re like, “Oh, I want to learn more about that.” And you start searching and start geeking out on it.  So number one, go experiment on a ton of stuff. Number two, identify things that spark your interest, and then number three – Engage deeply with those things. So things that spark your interest, now it’s time not to just get surface level, but to get deep into it. So when you go deep into something, it’s when you start going and you’re like, “Okay, what are the other books, the other podcasts, the other things, the other places I can go and study and learn this some more? Who are the mentors? Who are the people? The more you go, the deeper you go, typically what’s going to happen, one of two things. You start going deep and either you lose interest. Or you go deep and it starts getting more and more excited. I know with me, in college, when I decided I wanted to sell software online, I thought I’m going to do that. It sparked an interest in me. So I shifted my major to be Computer Information Systems, I started studying it, and I started going to class. And the first day I was like, this is amazing and I started getting deeper and deeper into it. And four days in I was like, “I don’t even know what they’re talking about anymore.” So I started going deep and it didn’t keep resonating. I was like, I can’t build software. It didn’t engage me. But I didn’t know that until I started trying to go deep. So some people just never go deep. So you have to start going deep and start engaging with those things to find out which ones really stick and which ones are going to have a huge impact with you. So start geeking out. Now in our world today, it’s so easy. Literally go buy all the books, listen to the podcasts, as much as you can on those topics. I remember when I first learned about NLP, Neural Logistics Programming, when I first heard that topic I was like, “Oh this is cool.” I started dabbling, I started geeking out, and then I literally went on a binge. I went on Amazon and bought every book that had the world NLP in the title or description. I went to iTunes and I searched for every podcast about NLP. I started YouTubing it, and within about a week and a half I had everything ever created on NLP in my office or on my desk or in my computer. I was listening to it, studying it, mastering it, and in a very short period of time it became something that I would actually love to go and create courses on NLP and how they relate back to sales and sales funnels. And maybe I will someday, but I got deeply passionate and I went deep.  So number three is engage deeply with those things. Number four – as you engage, if it goes from interest to true fascination, go down the path of gaining mastery. That’s what I’m talking about right now. As you’re engaging, as you’re going deeper you’re looking for what things are going to shift into a true fascination. And after you have that it moves you to step number five, which he wrote – Fascination plus mastery equals passion. Ooh fascination plus mastery equals passion. So you’re fascinated by something and then you start geeking out and going deep on it until you become a master of it, and that is your passion. So if any of us think passion is just going to bubble to the top and you’re just like, “Oh I’m passionate about this thing.” It doesn’t typically work that way. Think about your kids. When kids are young they do a whole bunch of things. My kids are trying a whole bunch of different sports and activities, and schooling, and friends and they’re just experimenting with tons of stuff right. Number two, they identify things that spark their interest. Number three, they deeply engage with those things. They go deep and start figuring it out. Number four, as they engage if it goes from interest to true fascination, then they go down the path of gaining mastery and number five, fascination plus mastery equals passion. Oh, so good. Tom you are the man. Thank you for sharing that with us today, I hope that helps any of you guys who are trying to figure it out. Now you’ve got a path and a framework and it’s not difficult, it’s pretty simple. So I’m going to read this one more time, just so you guys have it, for those who are taking notes, or those who are in the car and just need repetition, because this is one of those things that if you’re struggling with it, I don’t want you to miss it. Number one, go experiment with a ton of stuff. Number two, identify the thing that sparks your interest. Number three, engage deeply with those things. Number four, as you engage if it goes from interest to true fascination, go down the path of gaining mastery. Number five, fascination plus mastery equals passion. That is where you’re going to find your passion. Alright, I got one more cool quote I want to share with you guys, also from Tom’s instagram today. And this one, is actually today that I’m recording this, its Martin Luther King Day, so I know it’ll be a week or two past that, when you guys have a chance to listen to it. But this is a quote from Martin Luther King, which is so good. He said, “Whatever your life’s work is, do it well. A man should do his job so well that the living, the dead, and the unborn could do it no better.” Oh that is good. That is good. So that come backs to this whole fascination plus mastery. Master your craft, become so good at it, like what Martin Luther King said, “Whatever your life’s work is, do it well. A man should do his job so well that the living, the dead, and the unborn could do it no better.” So for me, I think that’s what it is with funnels. What is it for you? Alright guys, appreciate you listening, hopefully this will help you on your path to figure out your passion because I promise you, if you vision is built upon things you’re passionate about, you’ll have way more excitement, way more joy, way more fulfillment, as you are changing the lives of the people that you’re serving. If it’s something you’re not passionate about, you’re not going to care as much about that, about the people, about anything. So become passionate, become obsessed. I remember I was watching the Dry Bar Comedy Club interview that Andrew Warner from Mixergy did with me about two months ago. I was watching the replay, just kind of getting into it, and it was funny because he’s talking about business, he’s like, “You could build anything, but you picked funnels. And you’re so passionate about funnels and getting all these people excited. Why funnels? That’s like the most boring thing in the world.” I was like, “I know, but for me it was fascinating.” And it’s funny because for the first decade of me doing this, I would learn about these things, I’d go to these business conferences and half the people in the audience are sound asleep and no one’s that excited. I’m like, “Gall, are you guys not getting this, this is the most amazing thing in the world.” I’d be freaking out. And as I’ve kind of built my platform I’m like, you know, I want to make this cool. I want to make funnels and direct response marketing and these things that are geeky and nerdy subjects, that typically aren’t exciting, I want to make this exciting because it is exciting. So for me it’s like, if I look at this path, you know, I engaged in it, I got true fascination, and then I mastered it myself and then my passion is like sharing this with other people. That’s why we built Clickfunnels, that’s why we have these books and the courses and the podcast and everything because we’re so passionate about it. And the passion creates excitement and desire in other people and if I can do that right, then other people will come to us and come to me, and come into our world, because they see the passion, they see mastery, they see those things, and we can make them fascinated as well. So when you are extremely passionate about something, it’s way more likely that others around you will be as well. So alright, I’m going to bounce, I need to get back to work on my slides. The 10x event is like a week and a half away, a lot of work to do. Appreciate you guys listening in. If you enjoyed this podcast please take a picture of it, share it on Instagram and Facebook, tag me and also use the hash tag Marketing Secrets, and I would love to see that, see your comments. Thanks everybody, appreciate you all and we’ll talk to you soon. Bye everybody.

On today’s episode you will hear part two of three of Russell first presentation from Funnel Hacking Live 2018. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear today: How Russell went from having 12 businesses and always making only 3 million dollars, to figuring out that he needed to focus on just one. Why you need to focus on the “what” and the “how” to get from zero to a million dollars. And hear some stories of how a few other people were able to make it to Two Comma Club by focusing on the “what” and the “how”, and having only one funnel. So listen hear to find out why the “What” and the “How” are so important. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell again. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. We’re going to continue with day two of my initial presentation from last year’s Funnel Hacking Live event. I hope you’ve enjoyed it so far. If you are enjoying these, please take snap shots on your phone and then post them on Instagram and Facebook and tag me. I’d love to see them. And also use the hashtag Marketing Secrets. And with that said, let’s jump right into the intro music, and then we’ll pick up on the next part of my presentation. Inside of Clickfunnels and Funnel Hacking Live and all sorts of stuff, there are basically a couple of phases we’re going to be taking you guys through. The first phase in your Clickfunnels experience, is we want to give you guys all the tools you need to free yourself. Now, that’s Clickfunnels but we also have tomorrow afternoon, we’re going to be showing you guys some new features and tools and things that are coming out inside of Clickfunnels. It will continue to free yourself as an entrepreneur so you can focus on getting your message out to people, without all the techie stuff behind it. Let Todd and Ryan and the geniuses focus on the tech stuff, and you can just focus on selling what it is that you sell. So that’s coming out. Number two, we want to give you guys the education you need to create your future. That’s what these events are for, the books, everything is create an education. And then the third thing is to help give you guys a vision to impact the world. So the first phase is freeing yourself, the second phase is creating your future, and the third phase is impacting yourself. Now, during my first presentation I’m going to be walking you guys through what I call the Funnel Hacker’s Vision. I want everyone here to see where you guys are going. One of the biggest things I find with entrepreneurs is that they don’t really know where they’re going. They’re excited, they’re passionate, they start running and then they start doing some stuff, and they have some success and then everything starts falling apart and they get stressed out and then it’s all over the place. How many of you guys have felt that a little bit before? You’re my people, yes. I understand this. And it’s interesting, when I was growing my companies over the last ten years or so. I remember we got to a million dollars in sales and I started trying to decide, “How do you go from a million to ten? And ten to a hundred?” I wanted to understand that process. What are the tools, what are the things that I need to know as an entrepreneur? And I remember buying all sorts of books and courses and things, and they were great. But what they basically said, the goal of the entrepreneur, the entrepreneur is amazing at the beginning, but then you’re kind of a nuisance and you need to step away and let other people run the company.  And all the books about management and hiring people and plugging people in……and I agree with that, but I’m the entrepreneur, what am I supposed to do? If I go from zero to a million, and I want to go from a million to ten, and ten to a hundred, what’s my role? Where am I supposed to fit in? The interesting thing here is that the problem with entrepreneurs is that the thing that makes us awesome, happens to also be the thing that makes us terrible. The same thing. You’re like, how is that? That’s confusing right. So I have a question for you guys, how many of you guys in here have more than one business? Who here has more than 2 businesses? Three? Four? Five? Six? Holy cow. Seven? This is like that thing of like, who travels from the furthest away. Who’s got more than nine? Holy cow, you guys are worse than I thought. This first presentation is to help free yourself from this. I understand this more than you will ever know. So my business, this is what happened. And I want to know if your journey has been similar to this at all. This is what happened. I got excited, I started learning all this marketing stuff. I was on fire, I had all this passion, I was like, ‘I’m going to do this.’ And I started creating my first business and the cool thing about an entrepreneur, the thing that makes us amazing, is the hardest part of a business, getting it from an idea phase and getting it into orbit. You look at big companies, and what do they do? They bring in these amazing entrepreneurs, put it into orbit, and then they go hire MBA’s and all these people to come in and they’re like, “Just don’t crash my baby.” And then it just kind of stays in orbit. But getting it off the ground is the hardest part. So as an entrepreneur I get excited, I get the idea, the vision, I start creating like crazy and I get to a million dollars or so in sales and then I’m like, I don’t know what to do now. I’m going to…..and you look at it, you’ve got a million dollar business, it’s great. You know what I’m going to do? I’m going to create another one and then I’ll have two million dollars coming in. That’s the first thought. How many of you guys, that’s the first thing your mind went to as well? You’re like, “I’m going two businesses. I got one business and I need to start creating the second one.” And then what happens? The second one starts creating, and it’s going and you’re all excited and you’re like, “Boom, we got to a million dollars.” And you look back and this baby you had before, what happened to it? It died. And you’re like, “Crap, okay. That one’s dead. I’m going to make another one. This is at a million bucks, I’ll make the next one.” So you go create the next business, you put it all together, and you’re ready for it, it makes a million bucks and this one dies. And you start on this path and you keep doing it over and over and over and over again. How many of you guys can relate to that? Okay, this was my life, for ten years of my life. Just so everyone is super clear with that. So I understand this more than anyone. I remember the first time I got a business, my first business I got to about 3 million dollars a year. I’m like, “This is awesome.” And I was like, “Okay, I’m gonna…” and I got stuck at that point. I couldn’t figure out how to scale it. It was at 3 million, I’m like, “Okay, if I launch a second business and I get that to three million, I’ll make six.” And I launched the second one, that’s what happened. And this one died and this one got to three million and it was like, ugh. We did all the work for the whole year, end of the year I got my taxes back from the accounting guys, looked at it and I’m like, “Crap, we did three million dollars. That’s what we did last year. Dang it, we need another business. Let’s do another one.” So we did another business, put the whole thing together, launched it, going up, everything. The tax returns come at the end of the year, I look at the thing and I’m like, “Three million dollars? We have three businesses now, how are we still at 3 million dollars?” So I did the smartest thing any entrepreneur can do, and that next year, you can ask, this is a real thing. You can ask Brent or Dave or a lot of people who were there. I had this idea in January after we did tax returns, I’m like, “Okay, we keep launching a business a year and we’re stuck at three. How about we launch 12 this year.” And we did. Pre-Clickfunnels by the way, so this was like hand coding, it was horrible. We launched that one, launched the twelve, and one or two of them does okay and it’s like, ‘Oh it’s going awesome.” And these other ones all crash. And then tax time comes and we get this thing and I was like, “We have 12 companies, how did we do 3 million dollars again?” And all the sudden I realized that the problem was me. If you look at great companies, look at Apple. There is a time when the entrepreneur is the most amazing thing in the world. Steve Jobs came in, took Apple and blew it up, and then guess what happened. He started screwing everything up. They had to fire him, they had to kick him out. So they kicked him out and then they figured things, got systems in place, everything structured, and then they’re like, “We need someone to innovate because now we’re just stuck.” And they had to bring the entrepreneur back to blow this thing up. So I’m looking at my thing as we started launching Clickfunnels, one of the big concerns a lot of people had around me, on my team, but also people in our community, they’re like, “Russell, this is awesome, but I know you. You’re going to launch this thing and then you’re going to go to the next thing.” How many of you guys didn’t use Clickfunnels for a more than a year because you thought I was going walk away from it and move onto the next thing? That’s a real thing. I got that from a lot of my friends like, “This is awesome, but I’m not going to use it because I think you’re going to move on to the next thing.” So I consciously talked to Todd and Dylan as we were starting this, I said, “Okay, I’m going to focus all my effort and it’s going to be hard. But I need to focus or else, this can be something great, but only if I focus. And it’s going to hard for me, so I need your guys’ help. I need to be able to put my creativity into something.” So we did that, and we launched CLickfunnels. Now, I’m going to walk you through the different phases, but what I realized is that the skill set that entrepreneurs have to go from zero to a million dollars is one thing, and about a million- two million, about in that range, we have to shift where we focus our creativity. At the very bottom here we call it the creativity switch, because I knew what was going to happen. And this is, again, if you read any business books they’re going to say, “as soon as you get to this point, now you gotta hire a manager and teams and people and all this stuff.” And it’s awesome, you do need that. But I guarantee that most of us creatives, if that’s our job and that’s our role, we’re going to wake up in the morning and we’re going to dread going to the office. How many of you guys wake up and you’re like, “I’m going to go hire someone today. Yay.” No, I cry when I hear that. I don’t want to do that. I want to? How do I focus that? So what I learned from going zero to a million, and a million to ten, and ten to a hundred is I had to shift where I focusing my creativity. Shift it from launching a business, launching a business, launching a business, to launching a business and then how do I grow that business? How do I drive more traffic? What are the offers I creates? So I’m going to show you through this presentation, where did I shift my focus? Where does it have to be? Because I want you guys to understand that, because a lot of you guys, and I see it….How many of you guys got your first Two Comma Club Award and then the second one came really, really fast afterwards? A bunch of them. Usually the first one’s the hardest and then it’s like, “Oh crap, that was easy.” And the next one comes and the next one comes, the next one… We have someone in two days that’s getting 7. Because it’s easy, after you learn the process it’s easy. So for us, our minds going to go to like, do it, launch the next business, launch the next business. It’s like, if we just shift our creativity from business, business, business to business and then shift it to offers and front end offers, back end offers, shift it to traffic, then all the sudden everything we’re doing is compounding and our businesses grow bigger and bigger and bigger. So that’s where we talk about that creativity shift we have to take as entrepreneurs. Now one thing I want to stress with this presentation, over the next four days that we’re here you guys, we’re going to be talking at different levels of this. Some of you guys are in the phase where you’re, like from startup to a million dollars. How many of you guys are in that phase where you’re somewhere between zero and a million dollars right now in your business? Awesome. Some of you guys are in the middle phase. How many of you guys are at a million to ten? How many of you guys in that phase of your business? Awesome. How many of you guys are from ten to a hundred? How many are in that phase of business? Okay, so one thing I want to talk about, because I don’t want you guys feeling overwhelmed as we’re going through a bunch of stuff. When we talk about stuff, I want, some of you guys will be like, “This is a cool strategy, but I’m not ready for it yet. This is something when I’m like this big, that’s what I’m going to do.” So don’t stress about it. Be like, “I remember when I get to ten million dollars I’m going to focus on this strategy, but not right now.” Or “When I get passed a million dollars I’m going to focus on this strategy.” So as you go through the next four days just understand that. Every presenter, every speaker is going to speaking to different parts of this. Now, I’ll try to reference so you guys know, “this is like where you’re focusing at for zero to a million.” “This is where you’re focusing for a million to ten.” “This is where you’re focusing at over here.” Okay, so some things you’re not ready for, don’t stress out just be like, “Cool, I’m going to come back and watch the recordings or whatever when I’m ready, when I’m going from ten to a hundred, or from one to ten.” Things are going to be broken down through here. So I’m going to kind of go through this journey with you guys on what to expect from zero to a million, a million to ten, and ten to a hundred. Does that sound like fun? Yeah. Alright, so number one going from zero to a million dollars. This is what I call the what and the how. This is where you as the entrepreneur has to figure out what in the world am I selling? And how do I actually sell it. This is the only thing that matters in this phase. If you were hiring employees in this phase and you are buying desks and getting big fancy computer systems and stuff, you did this wrong. The only job going from zero to a million dollars is this, figuring out what it is you’re selling. What does the market actually want? Not what do you want to create? What does the market want? The what. And then what is the system I’m going to use to actually sell it? So the what is what you’re selling, the offer. And then how is how are you going to sell it. The question then is, “Russell, how do I know if what I’m selling is the right thing, or I’m selling it the right way?” And the reality is, when you get the right what and you get the right how, you will know because you will go from zero to a million dollars really, really fast. The market will tell you. The market will say, “That’s awesome. I want to buy that stuff.” If you’ve been stuck in a range below a million dollars for a while, it means you haven’t figured this out yet. You’re selling the wrong product, it’s not what people want. Or you haven’t figured out the right way to sell it. Because as soon as you figure out the what and the how, your business explodes. Our 258 Two Comma Club members, I’ve watched them. I’ve been watching people try, try, try, try and all the sudden, as soon as they figure out the what and the how, boom, going from zero to a million dollars is fast. That’s how you know that market wants what you’re selling. If you’re stuck at 6 figures, 150-200 thousand dollars, in that range, you’re not selling the right thing. People aren’t excited about it enough, or you’re not selling it the right way. So the what and the how. What am I selling and how am I selling it? We have a lot of presentations during this week about how do you create your offer. How do you actually make something that’s sexy and amazing that people are going to want to buy? And then what kind of funnel should I use to sell it? We some of our amazing funnel hackers, going to be sharing the different funnels. We have a whole bunch of different types of funnels. I wanted you guys to see this. If you look at all the presentation line ups, each funnel, each presenter has a different type of way that they do their how. A different type of funnel. Some people are doing a webinar, some people are doing high ticket, some people are doing trip wire, some people…everyone’s got different things and I’m not going to tell you, “This is the best funnel for your business.” I want you guys to look at all the different options and be like, “That’s the one for my business. That’s the one that’s going to work for me.” And then use that one. Pick it, and that’s going to be the how. So figuring out the what and the how. The market will tell you and you’ll know because you’ll go from zero to a million dollars fast. But that’s it. That’s what’s happening in this phase, the what and the how. Now, how many of you guys have read the Expert Secrets book? Who hasn’t? Alright, nobody….If you look at this book, the whole point of me writing this book was to help people understand the what and the how. What are you selling? We talk about creating offers, finding your market. This is the what. Then how do I sell it? Using stories, using funnels, this book is the what and the how. So if you’re stuck, you should read this book over and over and over. I spent ten years of my life bleeding to bring this to you, so you could understand the what and the how. That’s what’s going to help you understand. So that’s, if you’re stuck, that’s the book to start studying and learn over and over and over again. It’s going to give you the what and the how. There’s a lot of presentations over the next four days that are going to be going deep in this as well. The first thing we’re always going to be selling is the opportunity switch, and we’ll get into that a little bit more later, but that’s what we’re going to help you figure out. Alright, the other thing is going from zero to a million, I want you guys focusing on just one core funnel. How many of you guys, that stresses you out? We get people all the time like, “Russell, I’ve got 800 funnels in my account, I need to upgrade.” I’m like, “800? Are you doing well?” They’re like, “No, I haven’t started making money.” I’m like, “You should just do one and just make that one work.” 800? This is a real thing we get in our office sometimes. “Russell, I can’t afford the $97 a month payment. I need more funnels.” What? Delete the other ones, they’re horrible. There’s no way, if you’re struggling with the $97 a month payment, that you got a what and a how that’s right. The biggest focus, at the very beginning, you gotta be focused on one core funnel. When we launched Clickfunnels, it took me six different variations of the funnel. I tried one what and how and it failed. I tried the second one, third on, fourth one, fifth one, sixth one, boom. That one hit. We went from zero to a million dollars in about a week. I was like, “Oh man, this is it.” Guess what I didn’t do, luckily, because most of think when we launch this funnel it’s going to be amazing, and then what’s going to happen is you’re going to get bored with it before the market does. All my Two Comma Club members, by the way, just really quick, if you just keep focusing on that first one, it’ll grow to ten. Most of you are like, “Oh sweet. What’s the next one?” That’s what we do as entrepreneurs. We’re insane. I don’t why we do that, but we do that. We understand, your ability to get 7 figures, there’s a direct correlation between that and your ability to focus on one funnel. One. So don’t stress out about 20-30. Focus on one funnel. Focus on that. How many of you guys here read the Dotcom Secrets book. Yeah, thanks. So in the Dotcom Secrets book I talked about a concept called the Value Ladder. People come into your world and they start, typically they’re not going to write you a check for a 100 thousand dollars day one. Maybe they will if you’re amazing. But most people it’s not, you have to build value to people. So you come in with something usually lower ticket in the bottom and you send people up and they get more value, and then they trust you more and they’re willing to invest more money. So I almost feel bad, I shared that in Dotcom Secrets, and what happened is everyone was like, “Okay I need to create…” the come to me like, “Here’s my value ladder. I’m going to go from here to here to here.” And then explain like 30 different steps of the value ladder and they’re trying to create all of them at once and everything. I’m like, “No, the value ladder is where you’re going, not where you’re starting.” Understand that someday I’m going to probably go here. But I’m not creating 18 funnels to start, I just need to know where I’m taking people. So this is the Clickfunnels value ladder. Oh, now you guys know what we do.  That’s it. This is the Clickfunnels value ladder. Now a couple of things that I want you guys to understand about this. When we launched Clickfunnels we didn’t start at the bottom of the value ladder. A lot of people try that, it’s more difficult. So what we do is we start in the middle of the value ladder. The middle of the value ladder is, the reason why I like is because it’s typically more expensive, which it gives you the ability to spend more money to acquire customers. That’s why I try to get people so often to do webinars, because webinars are such great middle of the value ladder things because there’s so much profit in them. So typically you can spend a lot of money to generate leads. That’s the core, that’s what we’re driving to people. So all you guys should be looking, what’s the core thing I want to sell? A couple of things about my core offer I like to do, I like something that’s infinitely scalable. Where the more I sell, the more I don’t get stressed out. Some of you guys have businesses where you stop selling stuff because you’re like, “The more people we sell, the harder it gets.” I want to try to figure out something that’s infinitely scalable as your core thing. And that’s typically where you start. When people come in and join my inner circle, or my other coaching programs, my goal with them is figuring out like, just do one webinar. My inner circle members know that I have a rule that I’ve yelled at almost all of them at least twice. Anyone want to tell them the rule? Who remembers what it is? Wanna say it loud? You have to get to at least a million dollars before I will allow you to create your second funnel. Because this is what happens, “Russell, I’m working my webinar. Russell, I’m doing this thing. Russell, I launched it. Russell, it blew up, it’s going crazy.” I’m like, “That’s awesome.” They’re like, “So my next offer…” I’m like, “No, no, no, stop. Please stop. You just created this baby, you gave birth to it. I know you’re tired of it, but there’s so much value to that. If you would just focus on it for the next 12 months it will make you a million dollars, probably 3, probably 5, probably 10. But you gotta focus.” I tell them all, “As soon as you make a million dollars, then I will allow you to create your second funnel.” I want that in your guys’ mind set because so many of you guys are creating a funnel and make $10 grand and then you’re creating the second funnel, you’re making $5 grand, you’re creating the third..you’re in this thing forever where your wheels are just spinning. It’s crazy. I did that for ten years. It’s hard, it’s painful. It’s so much easier to double down on one thing. So focus on one funnel, right. So for us when we launched Clickfunnels, this was the one that worked, we focused on it, and again you can start comma two after you make the Two Comma Club. Now the second thing, after this funnel is working and customers are coming, you’re making money, we’re at about a million dollars, what’s happening is we’re building up pressure. I want to build up a bunch of pressure so that when I release funnel number two people will go crazy for it. If I would have launched Funnel Hacking Live before I launched Clickfunnels, guess how many people would have showed up? No one. Nobody would have come. I know, I did events before and nobody ever came, it was really stressful. True story, the first Funnel Hacking Live we had 600 people signed up, and I was so scared the day of, I was hiding in the back and I’m like, “No one’s gonna…” because I had done events before where very few people showed up, and I’m hiding in the back and I remember peaking through the curtains, and I was like, “Oh my gosh, they came.” I was so excited, because this happened before. So what happens, when the focus is, you’re focusing on your core offer, you’re building customers, getting people to love you, fall in love with you, all that kind of stuff and then you can release, now here’s my second funnel. For a lot of people, then it’s like you released your backend funnel. It’s like, “Hey, now we have a high ticket thing.” But you’ve got all this pressure built up and they just go crazy. That’s where we get a lot of people here and they go and after they’ve been running their webinar or whatever it is for their funnel for a long time, then they launch the next thing and they’re like, “My first funnel took my like 6 months to get to the two comma club. Second one I did in a weekend.” Yeah, you built up a bunch of pressure because people wanted to give you more money, you released it and then boom, it’s really easy the second time. And it keeps getting easier and easier and easier. So I want to kind of walk through some stories of people who figured out the what and the how and I want to show you how fast they blew up. The first one, some of you guys may know him, this is Dan Henrie. Is Dan in the room? He must…How is that so quiet? So Dan, I know his story really well. The reason why I know this really well, is one night after he moved into the new Dan mansion, he was drinking a lot and then he made me this video. I’m going to show you guys a little clip from it. “I know. Russell, listen I’m drunk. It’s cool. Listen, I have to tell you something man. Look, I’m good at what I do. I am. I’m good at what I do. I hope I’m in the right group because I’m flippin’..I said “flippin” Am I in the Dotcom Secrets Inner Cirlce group? Bradley can you tell me? Please tell me if I am? Hold on, because I’m a little drunk. I think I am, yeah. Listen Russell, I’m good at what I do. I’m good at Facebook ads, I’m good at all that. But your perfect webinar, thank God Bradley. Can I say something about your perfect webinar, my friend? Listen, I get it, hold on, you know I gotta say this. You know I want to speak at Funnel Hacking Live, but I get it if you don’t want me to do that because I’m whatever, I cuss a lot, and I’m a loose cannon. I get it, though I would never do that, but I understand. I do get it okay. “So forget all that crap. I just want to give an honest thank you. Because look at this stuff, God, I can’t believe I’m actually censoring myself while I’m drinking. Hold on, look at this. Look at this right now. One webinar, one mother effin’ webinar, okay. One mother effin’ webinar, look at this crap right now. That right there, and the third floor is not even lit up, bro. The third floor, that’s the…you can’t even see it because it’s not lit up because all the lights are off. But bro, that’s one webinar okay! This right here is a fish light.” Alright, I’m going to stop here. Okay, so Dan, he struggled and he struggled and he struggled and guess what happened, he figured out his what and his how and he went from zero to a million dollars in how fast? In five months. That’s what we’re talking about. You guys want to hear the other cool part of this story. I’m sitting at my house and my phone blings saying that someone is streaming into our group and I look and it’s Dan drunk, and I’m watching at first and I’m like, “oh man.” And then I’m like, “Oh man, this is awesome.” So I’m like, I jump on my computer and the second it ends, I download it and we turn it into a video ad, selling my book, post it back up and check this out, right now it’s got 3.7 million views. This video has sold thousands and thousands of books for me, so thank you Dan, I appreciate that. That was amazing. Alright, so there’s Dan’s story. Jamie Cross, where’s Jamie at? Over here, this is Jamie. She didn’t know I was going to talk about her today. Jamie was, last year came to Funnel Hacking Live, the first time you came, right? And she was creating a business and she was trying to figure out the what and the how and she was struggling. She is a herbalist, herbal…yes, that. She makes herb stuff, and she makes her own soaps, her own lotions and a whole bunch of amazing things in her home. And she was trying to figure out, “how do I sell this?” and she figured out an amazing product, she figured out the what. She has an amazing product, you guys should all give her money because it’s legitimately amazing. She has an amazing product, she couldn’t figure out the how. She came to Funnel Hacking Live to try to figure it out. We talked about Perfect Webinar. And what’s funny about her is she’s like, “How do I sell, I’m selling soap and lotion. I can’t do a webinar.” How many of you are ecomm people are like, “Russell, your webinar sucks. I’m selling physical products.” A couple of you guys are saying that to me, I get it. So she didn’t say that. She’s like, “I gotta figure this out. I know the what, but how am I going to sell this.” So she tried doing webinars and all sorts of stuff and eventually she made a four and a half minute perfect webinar facebook live, and in the first 90 days went from zero to 90,000 dollars in sales and has been blowing up ever since. Isn’t that amazing? Yeah. So figure out the what and the how. This is the first phase you guys, if you’re not there. This is the, all you should be thinking about every single day, “What am I selling, how am I selling it? What am I selling, how am I selling it?” And you put it out there, and then the market will tell you if you guessed right. If you didn’t come back, back to the drawing board. What and how, what and how. What am I selling, how am I selling it? What am I selling, how am I selling it? Put it out there and the market will tell you if you’ve failed or not. That’s the game. As soon as you know, then you can blow it up. Next one, Liz Benney. Unfortunately Liz isn’t able to be here this time. Same thing with Liz. I started working with her, she called me up, she joined one of our coaching programs. The very first call I had with her she’s like, “Russell, my goal is to make $50,000 in the next 30 days.” I was like, “That’s a horrible goal.” She’s like, “What?” I’m like, “This is the deal. We have to figure out your what and your how. It’s going to take a little while and it’s probably not going to happen in 30 days, but we’re going to try some stuff and figure it out. And as soon as you figure it out, then you can make 50,000 dollars really, that’s really actually small thinking. But it’s going to take more than 30 days to figure out this initial thing.” So I kind of set her expectations, and she went out there and spent the next four or five months figuring out the what and the how. She figured out what to sell, she created the product, figured out how to sell, created a webinar, and as soon as it worked went from zero to Two Comma Club almost overnight. Next one is Natalie Hodson, is Natalie in the room. Yeah Natalie. Give her a huge round of applause. You’re going to have a chance to hear from Natalie here in about an hour or so, which I’m very excited for, to hear her presentation. I don’t want to spoil the whole thing. But last February she came to an event, and afterwards she launched a book that went from zero to Two Comma Club in like four books. Crazy. An ebook, a $37 ebook, amazing. She figured out the what and the how. And there’s over 258 other stories just like that in this room you guys. I want you to understand, that’s the first phase. Zero to a million is figuring out the what and the how, the what and the how. And you gotta figure that out. Are you guys committed to that, figuring out the what and the how? And if it doesn’t work, don’t get stressed out. Some people launch something, it doesn’t work and they’re like, “Ahh. This doesn’t work. Funnels are a scam. Russell is a scam. I tried the thing and it didn’t work.” No, you gotta, Clickfunnels I had to do six, and I’m pretty good at this game, six funnels before we got one that worked. Was it worth it? Yeah. I don’t want to be that annoying guy that talks about money and stuff, but it was worth it. Six funnels! Holy crap, yes. You will make more when one funnel hits than you will make in a lifetime of hard work otherwise. So is it worth it? Yes, it’s worth it. Figuring out the what and the how, the what and the how. And the market will tell you. And as soon as it lets you know, then you take off and you explode.

A cool new way to look at how you structure your sales funnel. On this episode Russell talks about a new kind of funnel he’s been developing for the 10x Secrets launch, called the Unboxing Funnel. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in this episode: What an Unboxing Funnel actually is. How you can use the Unboxing Funnel in addition to the webinars you already have to sell the same products. And how this funnel can allow new customers to come in, who you would be unable to close on a $1,000 webinar funnel. So listen here to find out what an Unboxing Funnel is and you can use it. ---Transcript--- Good morning everybody, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today we’re going to be talking about what I call an unboxing funnel. Hey everyone, I hope you are all having an amazing weekend. I am actually out today in my yard. We’ve been having fun with the kids, cleaning things up, getting ready for winter, which is near upon us. And I’m hoping the wind doesn’t blow too loud as I’m sharing this stuff with you. But I just got this thought in my head, and I’m excited and wanted to share with you. So I’m going to dive deep into an unboxing funnel because next week we’re launching out 10X secrets master class, which I’m really proud of and really excited for. And what we’re doing in is what I call an Unboxing Funnel, so I’m going to break down what that is and share it with you guys because I think for a lot of us marketers when we’re doing things, we only look at things one way. Like a lot of you guys are doing webinars and you’re looking at that one way, so I want to share with you this because basically what we’re doing is what we’re calling an unboxing funnel, which is like a webinar, but we’re chipping out the side and breaking it up and unboxing it into a really cool offer. So I’m going to go walk you through that in a second. But first I’d love to get your guys’ feedback because I started thinking, I don’t know if you guys all do the same thing, but when I see people I’m competing against do things….I’m always watching, right. I think it comes from me growing up as a wrestler. As a wrestler I knew what I was trying to accomplish. First I wanted to be State Champ, then I wanted to be an All-American, then I wanted to be a National Champ. So I had these things and I’m watching all the people I’m competing against. So I’m watching the matches, I’m watching the scores, I’m watching what they’re doing, I’m watching the moves they’re good at, then I’m practicing based on that. So I’m back in my, I’m watching a tournament and I see a guy who’s better than me, who wins a tournament. Maybe I take third, he wins it. I watch the match, I study it, I go back to my dorm room, I start figuring out how do I beat this guy? This is what he did, and how he did it. I gotta get better in these positions and this thing. So when I had the chance to wrestle him next time, I’d be able to beat him. That was my whole life. That was twenty years of my life, which is, if you wonder why I compete so much in business and why I love this game, it’s because it’s the same thing. I’m looking at my competitors and what they’re doing and trying to figure out the next move. It’s like a game of chess for me. It’s fascinating to me, I don’t feel like….for some reason, no one is being willing to step up and hard core compete against us, which is kind of frustrating as a competitor, I’m used to that. I’m not used to that, I want people to step up and compete. And instead nobody really is, which I guess is probably good. But at the same time it always surprises me. So I look to people I’m competing against and I’m watching, I don’t know about you but I watch what they do. It’s like Chess and I’m looking at the moves they’re making. I see the move they make and then I try to, based on this I’m going to do this. And this is where I got to get stronger, and this is where I gotta protect ourselves, which is logical strategy as an athlete, as a competitor. But for some reason in business, nobody’s…I don’t know. It’s interesting. So instead what I do is I watch as our competitors make moves, and then what I do is I put myself in this role where I’m like, if I was consulting these people, this is what I would do. It’s kind of a fun exercise in my head. In fact, I remember probably two and a half years ago, I did a podcast episode, it was right have Clay Collins, the founder of Lead Pages had done something that was totally playing into, it played into our strengths and it was like the greatest thing he could have done for me. And I remember being so shocked. It’s like if I was wrestling in a wrestling match and the person is like stepping into me, which opens up the leg for me to shoot on. I was like, “Why are you doing that.” I remember being so confused like, dude, you literally just opened up a gap to make it so easy to dominate you. So I’m so confused by this, so I did a whole podcast episode I remember that day, driving to the office. Like, “If Clay Collins hired me as his consultant, this is what I would have said, and what I would have showed him, how he executed things poorly.” And it was a really funny episode. And then I realized I was probably a jerk to post that, so I didn’t. I don’t think I ever posted it. I don’t even know. I may still have it somewhere. I should go look for it. But it was a really funny podcast, me coaching my competitor on what they should have done, as opposed to what they did do. “You stepped here, which means you were out of position, which is why we were able to attack and open up and expose your flaws, which in a wrestling match is how I beat you. Whereas, instead if you would have done this, this actually would have been, something for me as your competitor I would have been on my toes for.” Anyway, I didn’t publish that one because I thought it would be probably too soon. But part of me is almost wanting to do the same thing right now and publish for example, this is insanity to me. Word is on the streets, and I’ve seen some of the stuff they’ve been publishing, it’s crazy. Infusionsoft right now is in the process of changing their name. And in the documents sent out to their partners saying why they changed their name is literally because people are teasing them, calling them confusion soft. I’m like, you guys have a 18, 19, 20 years of branding behind this thing, and you’re literally changing your name because people in my community, and I didn’t start this, it was all them, have been teasing them and calling them confusion soft. It just blows my mind. I want to, as a marketing consultant I want to be like, “Dude, what are you doing? There’s no better…if I were wrestling you literally just stood straight up and put your arms down by your side, and it’s almost impossible for me to not score and take you down at this point.” It’s strategically insanity, but that’s the move they’re making right. So part of me, and it’s not just that I tease them, there’s all, like it’s happening with other businesses around, like, people I look at like, these are legitimate competitors that could have a shot if they would just play their cards right. And they’re doing everything, they’re literally like, “Here’s my leg Russell.” And I’m like, “Is this a joke? Are they setting me up?” And I grab the leg and take them down and I’m like, “Nope, they literally gave me their leg.” What were they thinking? So part of me wants to start a whole podcast where I just critique my competitors and tell them what they should have done to actually be a threat, as opposed to giving us their leg and letting us just take them down. Maybe I can’t do that. Maybe I should do it in the past like, record them all and then publish them like a year later. Anyway, let me know if you guys want me to do more of those things because I think it’s funny and at the same time I think it’s good for you guys because we should all be thinking strategic like that, looking who are the people who are also trying to serve your customers. And if you’re half as passionate as I am about my customers, the reason why I’m so aggressive, if you’re wondering, “Why is Russell such an aggressive marketer? Why doesn’t he just play nicer?” It’s like, I honestly feel in my gut if people aren’t using us, if they’re not using Clickfunnels, not going through our training, not doing our stuff, any other option that they’re going through is like less effective for them, they’re going to struggle. I care about my customers so much that I, that’s why I market so aggressively. Because I want my customers to have success and I feel like any other option is blocking them from the success that they deserve. So that’s how you have to kind of look at your business, and when you realize that, “oh my gosh, these people are doing great things, that’s cool. But man, I could serve these people at such a higher level. I need to do everything in my power to get my message out to protect and save these people that I’m serving.” That’s how I feel about it. That’s the gut feeling you should have as you are serving your audience, and if you don’t have that yet, it’s like, oh man, you need to make your product better, make your service better, make your message simpler to understand, make your processes….whatever it is, make it better, because you should feel that way, because no one else is going to feel that way about your business except for you.  You’ve got to feel that passion about it or else it doesn’t make sense. At the traffic secrets event I was telling, I went kind of on a little tangent rant with those guys there, but I told people, it’s funny people are always blown away, “Russell you close 15% of the webinar. You close 45% of the room.” Whatever the numbers are and I’m like, “Yeah, that’s really, really good, but honestly when I get done I’m so pissed that I wasn’t able to close the rest of them.” Like, what was wrong? What did I say to, what more could I have done to convince these people that this is the path they need? Like the 10X event, it’s funny because there’s 9000 people in the room. We did 3.2 million, that means we closed a little over a thousand people, which means 8000 people didn’t buy. And for me it’s like, what more could I have said to convince those other 8000 people? I don’t know what else I could have done. And it frustrates me because I’m like, I know any other option, any other alternative that they try to go for is not going to be nearly as, it’s not going to help them get to their goal faster than what I’m offering them. It’s like, what else can I do to make sure that happens. So that’s why I’m so always focusing on this game, because I care enough about our people. So there’s number one. Alright so let me know if you guys want me to do a podcast like that, because it would be funny. Alright, let me go back to the purpose of what I want to talk to you guys about today. So the concept I want to talk about today is what we’re calling the unboxing funnel. So what is an unboxing funnel? Well, it comes down to the offer and the first time we started nicknaming it this was about last year’s Funnel Hacking Live, because every year we get a bunch of ecommerce people. They come in and they’re like, “This funnel thing doesn’t work for us. It works for info products, but not for physical products.” And I’m like, “No, you don’t understand.” And I started talking about like, imagine if somebody came to your ecommerce store, it could be Amazon, it could be Shopify, whatever. They came to your store and they bought everything you got right. They fill up the whole cart with all the good stuff, and all the things they would need to be successful with whatever the product or service is they’re buying from you right. What an unboxing funnel is, you’re taking this cart of everything they could buy and then you’re pulling things out of the box. You say, “What’s the very best thing that somebody could possibly want from me?” And that’s what you’re going to lead with. Then what’s the second best thing? That’s going to be my order form bump. What’s the third best thing? That’s going to be the next piece. So you have this, you’re unboxing all the offers that are in this cart, and then you put them in a logical sequence of order. And that’s how you build a funnel the right way. So if somebody comes in, like for example Trey Lewellen, when he launched his flashlight offer, the same one that did $20 million dollars in like 6 weeks, which is insane. He could have just had people come to his flashlight store and he has his flashlights and cases and warranties and all that stuff that’s there. But instead he unboxed what his dream client would buy and said, “Okay what’s the best thing they would want?” The best thing they would want is the survival flashlight, so that’s the first offer. “What’s the next thing?” They probably want a case, that’s the second thing. And the third thing, they want extra batteries. The fourth thing they want, a warranty. Fifth thing, faster shipping. And he unboxed all the things he could potentially give his customer at one time, and let them kind of pick and put them into a funnel. So that’s what an unboxing funnel is. So it’s funny because the product we’re launching next week, which by the time you guys hear this it will probably already be launched, so if you haven’t purchased it yet, you’re insane. Go to 10xsecrets.com and go buy it. And if you don’t buy, at least I’m going to explain the strategy behind it so you understand. So I very easily could have just done a webinar to sell 10x Secrets, but I have done a webinar multiple times and my role in this ecosystem at this point, I don’t feel is to just keep doing the same thing. If I did then all I’d get is people that are coming doing webinars through us. My job is to keep developing and inventing and creating new funnels, new ways to sell so that you guys can model them. Does that make sense? The last thing I need in my life right now is more money. That’s not what I’m doing this or the launch for. It’s so I can create a model for the rest of our community to look at and then to emulate for their funnels. It’s like if I just did another webinar, you’re like, “Oh Russell did another webinar. Yay.” And there’ll be times I do more webinars, but it’s like the reason why I did the thirtydays.com funnel was so that you guys could listen to that, look at and be like, “Oh my gosh, how could I use something like this in my business?” “How could make a summit?” “How could I do a challenge?” We’re just innovating and developing and creating and doing new things, to be a model for you guys to come back and model what we’re doing, funnel hack it and take it back into your businesses. So that’s what I feel like my role is in this ecosystem. So this time we’re like, “How do we create a cool funnel that shows people what’s possible?” I feel like the people who study me close have done, they’ve all done webinars now and free plus shipping offers, because that was the two funnels we have done primarily. So it’s like, okay I’m going to do new things, new concepts. Alright so that’s what this unboxing funnel is. Instead of doing a webinar, which I could definitely do a webinar. If you look at what the offer actually is, it’s a thousand dollar offer. If I were to sell it on a webinar I could easily sell it for a thousand dollars and it’d be, “You’re going to get this and this and this and everything when you buy.” So instead what I’m doing, instead of doing that, I’m making an unboxing funnel. So I’m unboxing the pieces out of here. So if I was to sell this on a webinar, I look at what’s the offer that on the webinar I’d sell for a thousand dollars. So I have all that, and I look at all the pieces of the offer and say, what’s the sexiest, best, most exciting piece of this offer. I figure out what this and I pull that part out, pull it out of the funnel and now it becomes the front end. So you’ll see when we launch this, the front end offer, what it actually is, and it’s going to be my 10x training, the 6 ½ hour training, that’s the core thing, and there’s a couple other bonuses that go with it. Those are all things that would have been pulled out of the stack slide, and that becomes the frontend. We’re going to sell that for anywhere from, I can’t remember yet. We’re still kind of going back and forth on the price. Somewhere between $197 to $300, somewhere in that range is where the front end will be. So people will buy that. Then the order form bump on the page will probably be $47 and it’s going to be the Power Point slides and a video of me explaining how the slides work and kind of going through it and training them on the slides. So that was another component that would have been the stack slide if this had been a webinar. The upsell now is going to be this closing program. Like, how do you close on a webinar, what are all the different closes. So I’m bringing in all the people that I learned closing from, John Childers came and taught his Childers Chunks. In fact, he actually let me license, this is so cool. He used to sell a $25,000 speaker training where he taught his Childers Chunks and I paid him a ton of money to license that, so now inside the Closer Secrets program there’s a licensing, we licensed how to do the Childers Chunks. So you get his entire $25,000 course, it’s in there. And then I got, John Childers is the guy I originally learned public speaking from, so it’s like his best stuff. And then its Myron Golden coming in and teaching how to do the price marinade and the repitch. We’ve got Ted Thomas coming in teaching Trial closes, all the closing stuff. That becomes the second part of the offer. And that part will probably sell for, I believe, $297. So we have a $197 product and a $297 upsell, a $47 order form bump, and then we’ll have a second upsell, which will be the FHAT event. So those who came to the original FHAT event, it’s the same event that Natalie Hodson came to before she launched her Abs Core and Pelvic Floor product that a did a million dollars in four months. It’s the same event that Brandon and Kaelin came through before their webinar. The same, all these people went through this event, they each had to be $25,000 to be in my inner circle to be at that event. It was a private event I did just for them, and people have talked about ever since because they have seen all the results from it. But that event is then, three day event is the second upsell, which is the FHAT event recordings, stuff like that, which will be a $497 offer. So if you take that, and you take all the products, the front end and the two upsells and you add up the price of what we’re actually selling it for it ends up being a thousand bucks, which is the same I would have sold it for on the webinar, but I’ve unboxed each of the pieces to turn it into an actual funnel. Does that make sense? So $197 front end, $297 upsell, $497 upsell, but it’s the same product, but I’ve unboxed it. So instead of selling it through a webinar with a longer form presentation, I unboxed it and I can sell it differently. So I sell it through sales letters and sales videos and things like that. Anyway, so that’s what I wanted to share with you guys, because a lot of you are like, “I have a webinar that’s killing it, what should my next offer be, Russell?” A lot of times the next offer isn’t doing a whole new offer, it’s unboxing the webinar that you’re killing it with. Unbox it and create an unbox funnel, which is like front end, upsell, downsell type thing. So it’s not like you have to create something new from scratch, it’s just you’re unboxing it, and selling it in a different way. Same product, different funnel, different strategy, different way to do it. Because some people may never be will to pay the $1000 for you course, but they may be able to pay $200 or $97 for your front end. And maybe they can’t buy all the upsells, but it gets them in, and now you get a whole bigger segment of the market and helps get into your products, and then you can serve them and eventually you’ll be able to send them up to the higher levels. So that’s kind of what I wanted to share with you guys today. The concept of an unboxing funnel and thinking back about that with whatever it is you’re selling. If you’re trying to figure out, what’s my next funnel, what’s my next product, what’s my next thing? It might be just as simple as unboxing it and doing something amazing. So there you go you guys. I hope that helps. With that said, I’m going to go finish cleaning my yard and then go play with my kids some more. We’re going to a football game tonight. It’s the BYU, Boise State football game. For those who know my backstory, I wrestled at BYU and then they cut the wrestling program so I transferred to Boise State and wrestled at Boise State, and then they cut the wrestling program. So I honestly hope both teams lose tonight. I hate them both. But it will be fun to go with my kids and have a good time. I know my daughter is a BYU fan, and my other boys are Boise State fans, so it will be kind of a family war and rivalry. And honestly I’m going to cheer for whoever is winning because I flip flop because I played for both teams, I got letterman jackets for both teams, so I’m allowed to. Anyway, other than that you guys, have a great weekend. And if you haven’t got your tickets yet to Funnel Hacking Live, what are you waiting for? You are insane. We are more than halfway sold out, tickets will be gone soon. Just go to FunnelHackingLive.com. We are putting on a huge show for you, I’ve already spent over a million dollars cash, out of my pockets, to put on this party for you and I don’t know about you, but if I had a friend who was obsessed with marketing put on an event and spent over a million dollars to entertain me for four days and teach me funnels and change my life forever, I would spend a thousand bucks to get a ticket and show up. Unless you hate money, you should be there as well. So appreciate you guys, hopefully I’ll see you at the event here in a couple of months. With that said, I’ll talk to you guys soon. Bye everybody.

Why Dave Decided to talk to Alex: Alex Charfen is co-founder and CEO of CHARFEN, a training, education and membership organization for entrepreneurs and small businesses. Alex has dedicated his life to answering the question, How do you make business grow? which evolved into a larger calling to understand How do you help people grow? Listen to Alex and Dave talk about Alex’s Billionaire Code and the 4 Rs of organizations to figure out exactly where you business currently stands and how to excel to the next level.  Tips and Tricks for You and Your Business: Why you can’t sell your way out (3:00) The Billionaire Code (9:00) The 1,3,7,1 Levels (14:00) Time Inventory (22:00) The 4 R’s (24:00) Quotable Moments: "When you make that transition from me to we, you have to change who you are as an entrepreneur." "There is a difference between having a product and having a business." "Your success is the sum of what you focus on." "Your business is broken and if things go well, it always will be." Other Tidbits: No business is perfect,  you want a system and team that is adaptable. Embrass issues in your business and that’s how you grow. Links: FunnelHackerRadio.com FunnelHackerRadio.com/freetrial FunnelHackerRadio.com/dreamcar ---Transcript--- Speaker 1:     00:00       Welcome to funnel hacker radio podcast, where we go behind the scenes and uncover the tactics and strategies top entrepreneurs are using to make more sales, dominate their markets, and how you can get those same results. Here's your host, Dave Woodward. Everybody. Welcome back. Speaker 2:     00:18       You guys. I seriously. I'm so excited for you guys to hear this podcast. This is a guy I have the hardest time getting. I see them all the time. We talk all the time, but to actually get enough time to have a focus for a podcast is next to impossible because he's literally building million and billion dollar brands. And with that I want to introduce and welcome back to the show Mr Alex Charfen. Alex, welcome. Thanks Dave. Great to be here with Humana. For those of you guys who don't know, Alex, it is. You're the honesty. I, I haven't. Rustled hasn't even been on more than once. So it actually, you're my first third time one. Actually, this is really cool and honestly I, for those of you guys don't know Alex, first of all, I'd recommend you go listen to the momentum podcast. I actually, the first time I met Alex was at genius network and I was so mad because he was giving out a limited supply of 500, literally numbered 500 of his entrepreneurial personality type books and it gave one to Russel and I'm like, dude, I am never going to get that. Speaker 2:     01:17       Russell doesn't give out his books, so that was like a gone deal and unfortunately been able to get a copy, but this is a guy who is literally helped thousands of entrepreneurs and a ton of my personal dear friends get over some of the struggles they have is as an entrepreneur to actually build a business and I think the key here is helping people really understand what it means to really build a business instead of just having a product. Now I know I've been to a ton of talking, but one of the things we're going to dive right into it, I am so excited about and that is this whole concept of why, in fact, first of all, before we dive in, anything else you want to say about how amazing you are, Alex? No, Dave, I just, Speaker 3:     01:51       I really appreciate you having me back on. You and I always have a lot of fun and I love the clickfunnels audience. It's like it's my favorite podcast audience if besides my own, and it's absolutely my favorite live audience, so I can't wait to speak in funnel hacking live this year. Speaker 2:     02:06       I am so excited about tickets. You should buy tickets. Seriously. If you haven't bought a ticket, go to funnel hacking live right now and go buy your ticket. You should be there because if you're not, you're going to Miss Alex and this is. This is your third time. It's my third time, but I want everybody to understand. I've been to have been to three funnel hacking lives. I missed one because the tickets sold out, so don't be like me like I, you know, I spoke three years ago. I missed the next one because there were no tickets left. We always sell out. So get your tickets. Go to funnel hacking, live back on right now and get you buy your ticket. I'm one of the topics. Alto, the great thing that Alex, so you could literally talk about a ton of different things. He's one of our two comma club x coaches and people absolutely love everything he does. Speaker 2:     02:51       He's a systems guy and understands people and more importantly what it takes to really build a business. And I think that's why I wanted to make sure I them on this time is we want to talk to you about this topic that has come up quite a bit recently and this whole idea as far as why you can't sell your way out. And with that I'm let Alex kind of talk a little about it and I'm going to come back and tell you a personal story here. But Alex, let's kind of. Let's dive more into this as far as why is it that you feel you can't sell your way out? Speaker 3:     03:20       So Dave, I want to give a little background to this. So I, you know, I've been a part of a lot of different groups in masterminds and one of the groups that I was in awhile ago used to have this same like you can sell your or market your way out of any problem and every time they would say that to the people in the room, I'd get a pit in my stomach. I get physically uncomfortable because I know that that's absolutely not true. Now you can of a lot of problems, but if you have a delivery issue and you sell more, you're going to have a bigger problem. If you have a ton of leads and you don't have a good sales team, you're going to have an even bigger problem. And so there gets to this point where you have sales and marketing or how you launched the business. Speaker 3:     04:01       Operations and processes and systems and putting the right people in the right place. The right communication in place and the right systems in place is how you really grow a company. And I think that's something that nobody really talks about because it's a lot of fun to talk about sales and marketing. But one of the reasons that I have so much respect for Russell is that he's building a real organization, a real team, and it's growing like crazy. And the reason is there's like 200 of you who are making click funnels grow and you know, if Russell early on had said, I'm just going to focus on nothing but marketing and not build the team, not build the organization to be anywhere near where you are today. Speaker 2:     04:36       I appreciate that. I can say that is a lesson I had to learn the hard way. Uh, I've had a ton of different businesses over the years and, uh, one of those businesses I, I really thought because I had heard that saying that from the exact group that you mentioned, and I thought, you know what? I don't have a problem. As long as I can sell my way out, there's an I know I can market, I can sell, I will just, I'll just, I'll just put so much more massive action into this thing and I will solve every problem just by selling more and marketing more. And that in of itself will take care of everything. And what it ended up doing basically was land in the almost on the streets of the bankruptcy court because I had sold a whole bunch of stuff that I then couldn't fulfill on or I couldn't fulfill fast enough. Speaker 2:     05:20       And then all of a sudden I started getting refund requests. I'm like, no, you can't read. You can't know that. Okay, if I'm going to get a refund, that means I've got to sell even more. I got to sell to replace the one I just lost plus get more money in. And it literally just became this downward spiral, which I know is kind of a weird topic for us to be talking about here when we're talking about funnels and everything else. But what I really want to make sure you guys understand is how important these systems really are. We were wrestling with in a couple of weeks ago, we were joking around about we sold our way real fast to 10 million. I mean, it was real quick and we actually did a pretty good job of even selling in the first two by the time we hit our end of our second year, our third year, we're at over $30 million and that was where we started realizing, you know, and we fortunately had, we had people in place but we didn't have systems and that was one of the big differences. Speaker 2:     06:11       There's a huge difference between routine and having people in place and we were fortunate we have a very, very strong culture inside of our organization as well as a long with our customers. But the biggest problem we found is we didn't have the systems for those people. And again, we had always focused on hiring a players and we'd always focused on making sure that we had great people around us but the systems was, was our downfall. And that's again, when things you've talked so much about. So with that Alex, I want to kind of dive in more and help people understand what exactly. I mean this whole billionaire code you talked about. I remember the first time you laid this out to me, I just freaked out. I was like, oh my gosh, where's Alex? Ben? For the last 50 years in my life, I only heard about this and seen this because it, it literally applied specifically to every time I looked at all the business I've done over the years, every time I had one that didn't go well or had a problem with a partner, it was because of every single thing that was in your, in your code. Speaker 2:     07:08       I mean, it literally. It was like crap if I'd only known that. So I had learned through the school of hard knocks. So in the next 15, 20 minutes I'm going to have alex as he poured his heart and soul out to you and basically give you as much as he can. Speaker 3:     07:20       Yeah. And so, and here's, here's here. So first the billionaire code, the billionaire code is, is a matrix that shows the nine levels that it takes to go from zero to $100,000,000 and exactly what you should be focused on along the way. And today, you know when, when, if anybody who wants to can go to the billionaire code.com and you can download that Matrix, it'll show you exactly what it is. In fact, you can go to my podcast episode 180. There's 20 episodes, did spell out the entire billionaire code. And if you went to funnel hacking live, you can go watch the presentation from last year because I did. And what we all need to understand though, is as you ascend as an entrepreneur, once you get to around a million dollars, and this is why it's so important for this audience because right when you're hitting the two comma club, you make this massive transition as an entrepreneur from me to we like a lot of entrepreneurs can, can overclock it. Speaker 3:     08:15       They can push themselves up to 2 million, 3 million, 4 million without a team. But it's tenuous and it's hard and it's difficult and it feels really precarious. And when you make that transition for me to change who you are as an entrepreneur, you know, I tell people that in order to grow the business you want, you have to become the person who can run it and if you don't have the business you want, you haven't become the person who can run it yet. And the major change there is making this transition from being an entrepreneur centric you, to actually building the team, building the organization. And for us, the way we coach it goes in three different places. It's putting the right people around you, doing the right things, recruiting the right members. It's using the right processes so that there's a process for everything in your business, including how you communicate and focusing on the right projects. Speaker 3:     09:04       And the billionaire code gives you exactly what projects you should be focused on each level of development, but then you have these two levels level. Putting the right people in place and the right processes in place. And the biggest deficit in most entrepreneurial businesses is in the people department with process. Because here's what most people say when they work in an entrepreneurial business, we don't know where we're going. The strategy changes way too often and nobody communicates with us. So if you can solve that, your team knows where they're going and there's consistent communication. Your Business will explode. And like you've said, you know, we've taken even some members of like the inner circle who have had really fast growth businesses, but we add those things, three things, the right people, the right process, the right projects, and all of a sudden you've got a $10,000,000 business that goes to 50 million within like 10 months. So it's been cool. I honestly, I think one I can, we can talk about just recently I was literally just within the other day was and Ryan. Yeah, what an incredible difference. So I'll let you tell their story. You know that an ideal even. Well. So Brad and Brad and Ryan at Atlas. Well financial. So it's um. Oh Man. I always say I'm Brad's last name wrong. It's Brad and Ryan Lee. Speaker 3:     10:20       Crap. I always want to say Brad Cobb, because I grew up with a kid named Brad cops. So anyway, right. And he noticed like, I've told him this every time I say your name, I say it wrong, but um, but they're phenomenal entrepreneurs. I love the two of them. And we started working with them about nine and a half months ago and when we first started talking they were considering doing something else. Getting out of the atlas was walking away from it because they couldn't figure out how to make it work. And we sat down, we structured a structure to a plan where they were going to put the right person in place. So they got, they went out and got an executive assistant and then we started really planning around how they were going to both act in the business, what they were going to do in the business. Speaker 3:     10:58       And we created a forward looking strategy and they took that strategy and they went from about a $1,000,000 business to in about a nine and a half month period, a $3,000,000 business. Now they're well over $3 million. And they have some months where they're run rates over $4 million and I just had a call with those guys this week. They went from a two person team to a six person team there now in and now they're in the place where they're doing everything. They're now getting back out of the strategy there. They're moving, they're ascending again, going from one to three now they're going to go in and go from three to 10. But here's what's so important about this. The business that they had had that potential, it's just they didn't have the right people in the seats, the right processes in place, and they weren't focused on the right projects. We flipped that and immediately they go from one to 3 million and anybody who's listening who's in that two comma club range, it's crazy. If you've gotten there, you'd be blown away. What happens when you the right systems in place? Speaker 2:     11:55       It's an honest. It's one of the things I've loved the most. I'm joking around just before he did the recording as far as an email, we had to send out some of our subcontractors and it was kind of funny just because, uh, I've looked at that, the success of, you know, one of the great things about our inner circle is russell is a genius when it comes to the sales and marketing piece and I've seen a lot of our inner circle members of that, a lot of success in doing that. And it's been interesting as they've worked with us as well to then see the system to get in place and it's. And it just takes it to the next level. And I think the best part, the part I like the most is once you have the system in place, that's when you can go back to the sales and marketing and you can totally pour the gas on it. Speaker 2:     12:34       You know, when you do that, you. That's where you see that astronomical growth. And the hardest part for most of us as entrepreneurs is we get so focused just whatever our skill set is. And for me I'm a driver. I'm just always going to drive. I'm just going to push. I'm gonna push. I just believe I'll make something happen and I know even for Brad and Ryan, they were sales guys and financial services. You may have always in the financial service industries think I'm just going to sell, sell, sell, and they just get burned out. After awhile. You're like, I've been just busted my button and yeah, and money's coming in, but it's not growing. I think that's the part I want to make sure people, you guys are listening to this, understand there's a difference between having a product and having a business. You can start off selling a product which is great and it's one of the great things about click funnels is you can take that product and all of a sudden that product you can turn that. Speaker 2:     13:22       I look at Natalie Hodson. I mean natalie had this crazy, crazy product that I hit the two comma club selling a $37 Ebook, which is just astronomical. I mean you got to be, you don't have it upsale, you don't just have a $37 ebook but you did it. But again, the cool thing for me is I take a look at where she's at now. It's because of the people she's brought in. It's because of the system against you could sell and she could mark it and she did an amazing job and she got to that level. But to get to that next level it requires the things you're talking about. And so Alex, if you don't mind, if you could help people. Let's take a step back. There's a lot of, you and I have talked a lot about this whole idea as far as one, three, seven, one meaning $100,000, 300,000, $70,000, million, $3 million, 7 million, 10 million, 30 million, 70 million, 100 million. And at each of those tiers it kind of fits it a little bit. Kind of along the lines of your billionaire code. Yeah. And as people are in those different levels, what if you could kind of target those people who right now are under 100,000 and tell them what they should focus on and then from those people who are in that $3 million and then the million above, you don't mind. Speaker 3:     14:27       So if you're under 100,000, here's the biggest issue for most people that are under 100,000, you haven't decided who you're working with yet. You haven't gotten really clear on your market. I mean if you're just starting out, there's two things. It's one personal. Your personal skill sets, your habits, your routines, like are you as a human being ready to own a business? And for most people the answer is no, they're not doing the things that they need to do. They're not forward planning, they're not strategic planning, they're not clear on what really want. And then second, are you clear on who you want to serve? Once you get that covered from 100 to 300, it's how many leads can you generate? And can you lock in lead generation? Can you get that population coming towards you? Then from 300 to a million, it's building the system so that you can deliver and making sure you can deliver consistently and convert sales consistently and then from a million to three you have to not only build systems around what you do well, but then you have to build a team around what you do well and then now it gets interesting when you get to 3 million and you're going above three. Speaker 3:     15:23       That's a transition where your ability to lead a team is almost exclusively what is going to help you move forward. For most entrepreneurs, and I think what happens is a lot of entrepreneurs get there and they don't realize you have to make a full transition from doing everything yourself to having the team do it with you and it's not just having the team do the things you don't want to do anymore. It's having a team do most of what you do well and that's why I gave the numbers don't lie. The numbers of the United States are crazy. Check this out. There's 29 million businesses in the United States under a 100,000, $22 million under a million 25 million. So when you are. Sorry, 26 million. So when you look at the population of businesses in the United States, 26 million are under $1,000,000 out of 29 million and so the numbers don't lie. Most entrepreneurs never get there. If you get over a million dollars, you're part of the three percent club. Three percent of businesses overall that are ever started getting to a million dollars or more. That's why clickfunnels is so crazy because the fact that click funnels isn't just like the fastest growing business I've ever observed and one of the craziest Unicorns that's ever out there, but it's a million dollar business factory. I don't think that's ever existed in the history of the world before. Speaker 2:     16:41       No, we've again, it's because of people like you. It's because of a lot of. We have over right now. We were, in fact when you were in her office, we were kind of counting and as far as on the walls, the different plaques. So we're now just cross over 373, two comma club award winners and we just got our 27th application for eight figure awards and so you started adding all this up and I forget what the actual number was you and I came up with when you're in the office, but I mean it's literally billions of dollars a business that's been created and I think the part that I loved the most, especially as you take a look at your billionaire code, is the ability for a person who wants to move. And again, not all entrepreneurs do. They you get comfortable and there's nothing wrong with that. Speaker 2:     17:25       But for a person who really wants to get to that next level, whether it's from 300,000 to $700 from a million to three or from 3 million to 10, for those who really want to do it, there are people like you who can help you actually make that kind of thing happen. And I think the part I'm most excited about as far as clickfunnels is we've been fortunate to attract people like you and others and who it. Because they're here, it's becoming this magnet magnetism of others who all of a sudden come to clickfunnels. And I was literally just buying a domain and the company I was buying the domain from my. Anytime I buy a domain, I never tell them who I am. Speaker 2:     18:04       I've learned that you could ever get an email from j Levi Parker, that's kind of mine. Chris Brown. So it was funny because, um, we finally negotiated the terms and then his secretary was a big financial service company and they own this domain that we really wanted. And she finally says, now what's the email? And I told her the email. She goes, what's your name? I said, oh Dave. She goes, why is it j? Levi Parker? I'm like, Oh crap, I totally screwed that up. My name, here's my real name. And she goes, wait a second, hold on. And she puts me on the phone with the CEO who were buying the domain from. He goes, is this Dave Woodward from clickfunnels? I said, yeah. He goes, we love click funnels. And I'm like, Oh my God, I'm glad to know that now. But you'd probably charge more if you. Speaker 2:     18:54       He asked me and I'm glad that we didn't find that out up front and they actually did ask for a free click funnel hacking live ticket and the negotiation. But uh, no. My only reason I'm saying that is I think it's interesting as you take a look, this was a financial services company and I never would've thought click on those would apply to them. But again, these guys they're doing that this year it'll be about 12 to $15 million and they're using a product and yet at the same time what has got them there is people and systems. And I think it's one of the greatest skill sets that you've offered to so many other people. And I want to make sure that people who are listening, you've mentioned already the billionaire code. So if you want to go to the billionaire code.com and download that, highly highly recommend it. Speaker 2:     19:35       It's one of the greatest things out there as far as really the part I love most. Alex is in one sheet of seeing from zero to $100, million and little. You can find out where you're at and the part I like most about it is you could be, even though it's all columns, rows and columns, but all of a sudden you might be in one column but in a different role and you go, wait a second, I'm behind in these areas and you see where your weaknesses are and because that you're able to make those changes super fast. The other thing is if you didn't, if you haven't heard Alex's billionaire code, if you get a ticket funnel hacking live, you actually, we will send you the recordings from last year and I. It's one of my favorite presentations to be honest with you. I love anytime you speak, you have this unbelieve seeing you on stage. Speaker 2:     20:18       As much as it's cool watching you here and we're doing this podcast, but seeing you on stage, it's a totally different element. You are. You just come alive and it's the coolest thing for me to see because you pour so much into the audience. I mean, you're, you were born to be on stage. It's the coolest thing ever because of the way in which you give and you care so much because you connect so much better with the people as you see them. It's just you have this personal relationship with them. It's really a neat thing. For me. I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a complete introvert, like in real life. But um, I learned very young how to speak Speaker 3:     20:48       it. I love public speaking. It's one of my favorite things in the world. This is what you and Russell at the same, same exact way. Total introverts. You put you on stage and oh my gosh. It's like nobody believes I'm an introvert, but you know, I, I used to have a debilitating stutter. I had. So for anybody listening who's like, oh, I don't think I could ever speak on stage a lot. Younger English was my second language. So I had a crazy accent that I used to get made fun of for in school. I used to stutter because I was really, I had a hard time talking in front of people. I'm dyslexic, so if I ever had to read in public, it was really hard. It sounded like I didn't know how to read, but it was just the words were moving around on the page and um, you know, I, I learned how to speak in high school with my speech coach and getting the opportunity to speak on a stage like click funnels, funnel hacking live. Speaker 3:     21:38       It's crazy. There's so much energy in that room when you say you build a relationship with the audience in that room, they build a relationship with you. Well, thank you. Love 5,000 people that are dying to have a relationship with you, Alex. so one thing I'd want to make sure we touch on, and I think because it applies to anybody, no matter where they are in your billionaire code and that is your time study. Yeah. Kind of going into that real quick. Only because I was the worst person in the world on that and I hate this, but it's a life changer. So this is, you know, I've been a consultant for over 20 years and I use strategies that work and it doesn't matter how difficult they are, it doesn't matter how confronting they are. To me, it's how do we get the biggest result with the least amount of time and one of the things that we, we inventory as entrepreneurs is money. Speaker 3:     22:22       We all like we look at how much money we're making but we don't really look at what we're doing with our time. And so how do you inventory your time, take that data and improve what you're doing with your time. Because at the end of the day, your success is the sum of what you focus on. And until you can inventory where your focus is, you don't know what's really going on. So what we have people do in our programs and in our company like Haley right now, my assistant is doing it, two wait time study. She writes everything down that she's doing in 15 minutes and then commence. And anybody can do this. You write it down in 15 minute increments for two weeks. And what will happen is in the first couple of days, you'll already start modifying your behavior, but at the end of two weeks, right at the end of two weeks, you'll have a full inventory of where you spent your time for a two week period. Speaker 3:     23:07       And then here's what we have people do. Go through that inventory and mark, was it strategic or tactical? And as an entrepreneur, the more time you spend in strategy versus tactics, the more you're going to grow your business. And most entrepreneurs are over 90 percent tactical in any given week. And for me like this podcast with you, this is strategy. This is strategic. I'm the only one in the business that I would want to have do this. But setting up the time for the podcast, setting up the appointment, put it into the calendar, all those things. Somebody else did all of that for me. I just showed up and click the button. And so at the end of a two week time study, you really know where you are. And I think, you know, I, I often share with people your story that we were talking and you were asking me for strategies and then I shared the time studying and you're like, okay, I'm going to do that. And then two days later I get a voicemail where you're like, I just want you to know I kind of hate you. Speaker 2:     23:58       I totally, I really do that. Oh yeah. And I think the other part I do want you to talk about, and that's the four rs I'm going through right now and I'm creating for ours, for my, my role here at click funnels. And it's been fascinating for me as I've been doing this. As I look at the four rs with my time study, it totally changing the game because I'm like, oh my gosh. Even though that is what I'm classified with, strategy, I don't need to be the person doing that strategic thing and I can have someone else do it. Which was kind of, it was mine. Again, I'm still struck. I haven't completed my forearms right now. I'll have it done by tomorrow, but it's been fascinating for me to see that a lot of things that I thought I still needed to be doing, I don't. So if you don't mind, can you explain what the four r's are? Absolutely days. So, um, you know, Speaker 3:     24:49       in most positions in the world do you have a job description and a job description is usually like one or two paragraphs describing what somebody does in a role in our organization and the organizations we coach, we found one or two paragraphs woefully inadequate. And what we want to be able to do is give somebody a very clear idea of exactly what we want from the person. So whether you're recruiting or managing a team member, we use what we call a four r document, its role. That's where most job descriptions start. Stop. So we have a paragraph about the role, then we have responsibilities. What are the exact responsibilities that that person has? Then the results, what results is that person driving? And then the last thing is the requirements. And so for example, for a salesperson, you might have a rule that says, you know, this is an inside salesperson, they're going to be available full time, remote remotely located, they're going to call it on high ticket clients, and then in the responsibilities it's making 100 calls a week, having this level of conversions, this is how many actual live calls they have to have, and then in results it's driving x number of dollars in business a week and then you know exactly what the results that they should have the right client bringing in the right Avatar, making sure that there's not a high return rates, high retention rate, and then the last thing in requirements for sales might be excellent phone communication skills, excellent written skills. Speaker 3:     26:10       And so once you have that all built out, if you're recruiting, you are so likely to find the right person because it's very clear. And then this is the only document that we know of that you can take from recruiting right into the position. Speaker 2:     26:24       So it becomes a tool you find them with and you lead them with. I think that's the part you just said there. I for me has been the part I've enjoyed the most because I'm actually the people who work for me now I'm asking them to create their four r document and it has been so mind opening for not only for me because they're doing some things on there that that's not part of their role or the responsibilities and and other things that I thought they knew where their responsibilities don't even show up anywhere on, on the document. Speaker 2:     26:56       So again, anyone who's listening, if you have somebody who is works for you, and again, I think even if it's you're an assistant, it doesn't matter who it is. Impact. Yeah. I think you're crazy. These days. I, I fight all structure. I just innate in me to fight it. I just ate it, but it's been for me. The thing that has helped me the most is working with people like yourself, Alex. I'm like, okay, I gotta get into this thing and I have to realize that the structure actually is what's going to help me get to the next level. I mean, we'll do $100 million this year and you and I had the conversation earlier as far as, you know, Dave, who do you want to be and where do you want to lead? And for me, I know there's no way I can lead or be involved in a company that had $100,000,000 level unless I change who I am. And it kind of goes back to the, you know, the proverbial thing people have got you here will never get you there or at least the situations you're in, you have to change. And for me the best way of changing has been this for our document. It's been a great, great opportunity. Do you have any resources where people can go to get that or understand a better? Um, you know, Speaker 3:     28:02       we, we teach that in all of our programs. So if you go to a billionaire code.com or if you download the entrepreneurial, not download, sorry, if you buy a free plus shipping copy of the entrepreneurial personality type book, um, we will, we'll, we'll give you in our follow up sequence. We talk about where the for our documents are, where, where we, where we have all these resources. In fact if somebody wants to, they can go to free momentum book dot Com and get that. And by the way, I now have a funnel there that were, that I'm willing to share on funnel hacker radio because last year when I spoke at funnel hacking live, real funnels weren't quite there yet, but now we're very proud of the funnels were putting out. Um, we've got some pretty incredible click funnels now. Speaker 2:     28:43       Well, I think the coolest thing is the fact that, uh, if you haven't listened to Alex's podcast, a highly, highly recommend that you do as far as the momentum podcast, he actually, I have to give Kudos to him. He hit the, he got to the million dollar or the million downloads level faster than I have. I'm not there yet, so please support me and get me to the millions so I can come back and to be like, one point three, one, I'm, I think I'm around 900,000 and you started six months after me on a podcast and you're doing it like every day though. I mean I've got like 300, 85, 400. It's crazy. So it's just sheer volume. Speaker 2:     29:20       That's a lot of content, but the coolest thing honestly is I highly recommend you guys go check out the momentum podcast. It's what Alex contributes and gives is just amazing things for any entrepreneur to really help. And what I love is they're short the quick and it's stuff that people can implement that day and I think that's the, that's the secret. Does fast implementation. So again, we've talked about the whole idea as far as why you cannot, why can't sell your way out of your problems. Talk About for our document talking about time studies. Anything else you want to make sure we cover here in a few minutes before I let you get back to your day? Speaker 3:     29:55       Uh, you know, Dave, I think, I think we've pretty much covered it. You know, I have this saying that I share with business owners, your business is broken and if things go well, it always will be. And here's what I mean by that. You know, volume creates complexity and success creates deficits. And so as a business owner, you don't want a perfect business. What you want is you want a system and a team and a structure that is adaptable and can cover complexity and filling deficits. And I think that there's far too many business owners today, they think that some day they're not gonna have any problems. I would look at it differently. I wouldn't tell you all embrace the issues in your business, chase them down, hunt them down, solve them. And that's how you really grow a company by pretending like there aren't issues by, by wanting to perfect business, by trying to drive the problems out of your business, you're actually creating the biggest constraint you possibly can. So just remember, success creates deficits and volume creates complexity. What you want a team is a team and an organization that can cover both and you'll get to the level you want to as an entrepreneur. Speaker 2:     30:58       I love it. So everyone check out billionaire code.com. Make sure you follow Alex on his momentum podcast and by all means, if you have not bought a ticket to funnel hacking live, go there right now. Buy Your ticket. You do not want to Miss Alex on stage. This guy literally gives his whole heart and soul to anybody he comes in contact with. So the great thing about actually being with Alex at funnel hacking live is you're one of the most approachable people in the world, which is just, I mean, it's such an amazing thing for me to see how willing you are to give and share during the full three days, not just the time you're on stage, but as people I've seen you in the hall talking to people and you just give and give and you give and you give. So the only way you get that is by going to funnel hacking live.com. Spend time with Alex. it will literally bless your life. He's always blessed mine and it's been an honor to spend time with he and his wife and his two daughters. It's always fun. So Alex, Ian, thank you a ton. Any parting words here before we go Speaker 3:     31:49       now just say how your family for me, you're a constant source of inspiration and I love you man and I appreciate you having me on three. Pete. Now Speaker 2:     31:59       one. Thanks so much. I think so. I think someone trademark that. It's A. I probably owe some money on three people. We'll talk to you. Bye. Speaker 4:     32:12       Hey everybody. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen to podcasts. If you don't mind, could you please share this with others, rate and review this podcast on itunes. It means the world to me. We're trying to get to as a million downloads here in the next few months and just crush through over $650,000 and I just want to get the next few 100,000 so we can get to a million downloads and see really what I can do to help improve and and get this out to more people. At the same time, if there's a topic there's you'd like me to share or someone you'd like me to interview, by all means just reach out to me on facebook. You can pm me and I'm more than happy to take any of your feedback as well as if people would like me to interview. I'm more than happy to reach out and have that conversation with you. So again, go to Itunes, rate and review this, share this podcast with others and let me know how else I can improve this or what I can do to make this better for you guys. Thanks.

In today's episode Tobe sits down with super entrepreneur, Natalie Hodson from NatalieHodson.com. Natalie shares with us her keys to success, how she combats the loneliness of being an entrepreneur, and how she grew her tribe to over half a million followers between Instagram and Facebook.

When it comes the vulnerability entrepreneurs are getting it wrong. We are taught "never let them see you sweat" or "fake it until you make it" Both of which will keep you start and stop you from getting what you need. Even worse they will stop you from one of the most important entrepreneurial assets that you can create, human connection. As an entrepreneur connection to your tribe, to the market at large, and your team will help you create momentum. Lack of connection will make it difficult for you to create momentum and long-term success. This week I was reminded by Natalie Hodson that vulnerability is the ultimate human connector.

Haha, what's up, guys? This is Steve Larsen.   This is Sales Funnel Radio, and before we cue the intro here, I want you to know, this episode for me was really special.   I interview an incredible entrepreneur. Her name is Natalie Hodson. She's fantastic. I love learning and studying from her.   She's gonna talk about some things that went on kinda crazy in her life, and how to leverage the crazy things inside of your life for your audience - particularly around the subject of vulnerability.   So this is how to be vulnerable without looking like you're weak, right? And for a lot of guys, that's super important.   For a lot of selling in general, that's super important - the purpose is not to look like you're weak.   So anyways, let's cue the intro here. I hope you guys enjoy it, and if you have liked this, please reach out to her and say thank you. She puts some really amazing things out.   Thanks, guys, so much, and see you on the episode.   I've spent the last four years learning from the most brilliant marketers today, and now I've left my nine to five to take the plunge and build my million-dollar business.   The real question is, how will I do it without VC funding or debt, completely from scratch? This podcast is here to give you the answer.   Join me and follow along as I learn, apply, and share marketing strategies to grow my online business using only today's best internet sales funnels.   My name is Steve Larsen, and welcome to Sales Funnel Radio. What's going on, everyone?   Hey, it's Steve Larsen, and I'm really excited to have you here today.   Stephen: I have someone that I've been trying to get on the podcast for a very long time - because I just think the world of her. It's been super amazing to get to know this person. Anyways, I'm excited about it.   The first time that I got to hear this story,  it was heart-wrenching for me to see, not just everything that had happened, but the inspiration that it's causing in other people's lives.   The way it's changing other people's lives is a huge deal.   It was fascinating for me to see that this is real, you know, this is a big deal.   I already knew that, but just to continue to watch it in application... I was like, "Gosh, the thousands and thousands and thousands of lives that it's changed."   It's my incredible honor and privilege to have you on the show. Guys, I wanna welcome Natalie Hodson. How are you doing?   Natalie - Hey, thank you so much, Stephen. That was an amazing intro.   Stephen - I mean it.   Natalie -  I'm so excited to be here too. I've watched your stuff, and I've binge listened to all your podcasts. Your advice has helped me so much, so it's like a win-win. I'm excited - you're excited. It's awesome.   Stephen - Oh, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.  I know a lot of people may not know about you yet, and frankly, it's just a matter of time... I think everyone's gonna know who you are.   Natalie - Aw, thank you.   Stephen - Could you tell us a little bit about your story, and kind of the background, 'cause it's inspiring, and...   Natalie - Yeah.   Stephen - There's obviously funnels in there, but that's a vehicle for this whole thing. You're changing people's lives, and I'd love you to grace my audience with that... that'd be great.   Natalie - Totally. Well, there's a long version and a short version. I'll try to keep it towards the short version, but I tend to be long-winded.   So at any point, if you're like, "Natalie, take it this direction," you know...   Stephen - We have happy ears.   Natalie - So I'm in the fitness space. But I always say that I accidentally fell into the fitness industry because I was a history major in school. I didn't know:   #1: That there even was a fitness industry   #2: That I ever wanted to be a part of it.   After I had my son, I gained 70 pounds when I was pregnant with him. I was like big, out here. He was a 10-pound baby.   Stephen - 70 pounds?   Natalie - Yeah, I was really big. And after I had him, I remember feeling lost. I remember looking in the mirror and feeling like, "I don't even recognize myself... I just wanted to feel like myself again," and it wasn't even so much about the weight. I just didn't feel like me.   So I started a blog, and honestly, it was like an online journal - just as a way to keep me accountable for my fitness stuff.   I didn't tell a single person that I knew in real life, because I was embarrassed.  I didn't want the people I knew to know what I was struggling.   This was when Pinterest very first got started, about eight years ago.  I just started sharing...   I like to cook, so I started sharing healthy recipes, and I started putting them on Pinterest.   And honestly, if you look at my first pins back then, they were taken with a flip phone, just awful photos, but luckily for me, now people are taking gorgeous pictures for me.   So I started to get a lot of traffic to my website.   Stephen - You were just kinda documenting what you were doing?   Natalie - I was just documenting what I was doing and sharing.   This was right when Facebook groups weren't even a thing, and I started a Facebook group with this training program I was doing. I started sharing my ups and my downs, just because I felt like it was a safe space.   I was really vulnerable and telling, you know, my struggles; like I got called out of the gym daycare again - just like real struggles, you know?   I was struggling with all this stuff. And so, I did that 12-week program, and had awesome results, and got some recognition from bodybuilding.com.   I was getting a lot of traffic to my site. So I was like, man, if I'm getting traffic, I might as well monetize it. So I got certified as a personal trainer and started writing - I wrote a couple of ebooks.  I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't how to write an ebook. I just kind of figured it out as I went.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - And then, I started recognizing, basically, like, long story short, what happened is one day...   I was at an event, and this girl came up to me. And she's like, "I love following your stuff! I could never do what you do, because I have stretched skin after I had my babies, and I could never look like you."   I got really confused in the moment, 'cause I was like, "What are you talking about? I have tons of stretched skin."   And then I started realizing that, I don't share that. I have all these beautiful professional photos where I stand up straight, and I angle myself just right so you can't see it, right?   Stephen - Right, yeah.   Natalie - Posture and perfect looking. I started realizing, like, "Holy crap," in my head, I look down, and I'm like, "Oh, yeah, I have stretched skin, whatever," but I wasn't like, showing that to anybody else.   And so, that night, I pulled out my camera, and I filmed this video,  just saying to people, "Look, I recognize that I've never shown you... this is what that looks like."   People talk about that a lot, but this was six years ago, and really, nobody was talking about it.   I remember the first time I posted that video, my hand was shaking. I thought I was gonna lose every follower I had. But I was like, "I know that if I'm struggling with this, other people are too."   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - And I posted it, and I shut my computer down. I wouldn't look at it, 'cause I was like, "everybody's gonna hate this."   When I opened it up an hour later, there were just thousands of comments, and that video went kind of viral.   Then I started realizing that the more I talked about things that felt scary or uncomfortable, it was actually more of like a magnet. People started to feel like, "Whoa, she gets me. Whoa, she's talking about things that I think in my head, but nobody's really talking about."   And then what happened is it started to  heal broken parts of me too - because I started to realize that those fears and insecurities weren't even real. It was just the story that I was telling myself.   So the more I talked about my story, the less power it had over me.   And so, total side note here, fast forward to right now... 'cause this was years ago... but I feel like I worked through all that body image stuff kind of on accident.   Stephen - Sure.   Natalie - I was being vulnerable, and it's crazy, 'cause right now, I'm going through a very similar process. I'm trying to do a lot of self-work. Learning to be perfectly imperfect with the body stuff - I feel like I did that, and I'm okay with it.   Stephen - “Perfectly imperfect” - that's cool.   Natalie - Yeah, and now it's like, "Okay, how can I...?" I've always struggled with this idea of perfection, and now with relationships, I'm trying to recognize that it's okay to not be perfect in relationships. That when you work through the hard stuff, when you talk about the hard stuff, it actually...   So anyways, I'll turn back now. I skipped a big chunk in there, but...   Stephen - No, that's fascinating what you just said... We will come back to that.   Natalie - Okay.   Stephen - Keep going, 'cause there's this whole spot... I'm like, "This is so cool."   Natalie -  I might not have the right words for it, because I'm just starting to figure it out. It's what I was talking to my friend Yara about last night.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - So, anyways, I built this big audience, all organically. I had about 400,000 followers, but I wasn't really monetizing it.   I was selling ebooks and making decent, good money, probably  around six figures as a stay at home mom - so it was good. Like, it was awesome, and I was enjoying it. I was writing.   And then I went through a divorce. And then it got really scary, because I was like, "All right, I don't have child support, I don't have alimony.  I have to figure this out."   Stephen - Right.   Natalie - And it just so happened... like, you know, I swear, a lot of times, things fall in place when they're supposed to, or you meet people when you're supposed to.   Stephen - Right.   Natalie - It just so happened that... I don't know actually what happened. I don't know if my name got thrown around in a mastermind or something, but all of a sudden, I got emails or phone calls from eight different people wanting to build a funnel for me in ClickFunnels, and all this stuff.   I was like, "What? what is a funnel? What is this?" And so, I started researching and googling, and I kept seeing this name, Russell Brunson.   It's so embarrassing now 'cause I know what a good, honest, genuine hard-working guy Russell is... but honestly, at first, I was like, "Is this a scam? Why are people promising me the world, and like telling me they can..."   Usually, if somebody tells you something that's too good to be true - it is, right?     ...And they're like, "With that audience, you can make all this money." And I was so skeptical.   But the embarrassing part is, Russell wrestled in college with my cousin, and we live like just right down the street from each other. So we had all these mutual friends.   Stephen - Right.   Natalie - I messaged him on Facebook, and basically just... I mean, I didn't say, "Is your company a scam?"... but that's basically... I mean it was rude!   And now that I know who Russell is, I'm like so embarrassed, and I'm so grateful he didn't just say, "See ya, I'm never talking to you again."   So I started finding out about ClickFunnels, and then I read his DotCom Secrets book, and I was like, "What?"   'Cause  I'd built this big audience, but never in my life had I even spent a dime on Facebook ads.   So, I started reading his book, and I was like, "What? These are real secrets. Why is he sharing this?"   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - Look, this is my original notepad.   Stephen - What?   Natalie - That's crazy. I was organizing my office, and it happened to be sitting here.   So what I did, this was cool. I pulled out this notepad, and as I went through the book, I started saying, "How can I apply that to my business?" Like, five variables of successful campaigns:   Step one, who are your competitors? And I started writing down who are my actual competitors? This is cool. Blast from the past.   Stephen - That's so cool. I just found mine the other day.   Natalie - No way!   Stephen - Yeah, it's just right over here - the exact same thing. I was just showing it to somebody else. But, yeah, I found mine. It's like going way back.  "I remember the first time I realized this!" This is a huge deal.   Natalie -  I was mind-blown, and I was like, "What?" And so, I started implementing it, and I was like, "This works!"   I brought somebody on to help me with building the funnel at the beginning. Now we've since split ways...   So we launched the funnel. So, okay,  this story's getting very long, so we'll wrap it up, but...   Stephen - No, it's awesome. Super valuable.   Natalie - Okay, so, basically, at that point, I was like, "Hey, my back's against the wall. I need to figure out, how am I gonna monetize what I have here?"   So what I did was, I looked at my Google Analytics on my website.  I was like, my audience is telling me what they're interested in through my analytics, right? So, I took my five most popular blog posts, and I said, okay, I'm gonna make an offer around each of these.   Stephen - Wow.   Natalie - So the first one was this weird word called Diastasis Recti. Which is basically ab separation.   When you're pregnant, your abs can separate to make room for the baby, and in about two-thirds of women, they don't always come back together the right way. So it can cause you to look pregnant, even if you're eating right or exercising. It can cause you to have like just core weakness.   The other post was this thing called Pelvic Floor Dysfunction, which in layman's terms means like, if you laugh, cough, sneeze, jump on a trampoline, exercise too hard, a lot of times, women, after they have babies, will pee their pants a little bit.   Stephen - Right.   Natalie - And so it just so happened that one of my good friends from college had just gotten her Ph.D. in this specific area.   So, I reached out to her, and I was like, "Hey, Monique, I am getting a massive amount of traffic to this blog post. Do you think we could do something together?"   And that's when she told me. She's like, "Oh my gosh, Natalie, the peeing your pants stuff doesn't have to happen! Just 'cause it's common, and happens to so many women it doesn't mean that it's normal or healthy. It can be improved."   And I was really skeptical again at first. I was like, "Yeah, right!" I was like, "Yeah, I've had two 10-pound babies." I got kind of defensive.   Stephen - Your kids were 10 pounds?   Natalie - Yeah, both of 'em. Isn't that crazy?   Stephen - Oh my gosh. Our first two were five and a half.   Natalie - Oh, wow.   Stephen - We have little kids.   Natalie - Yeah, and I had 'em at home too, with midwives, yeah.   Stephen - Oh my gosh.   Natalie - It was crazy. So crazy.   Stephen - Amazing.   Natalie - So, long story short, last year, it was November of last year,  I talked to her. It was that first conversation. And it's funny, 'cause we have the Facebook messages still with the date.   And I said, "Hey, do you think we can write a program helping women?"   Because she put me through a program, and it totally worked.  I knew that if I'm struggling with this, other women must be too.     We started talking about it on Thanksgiving. We began writing it at Christmas. We launched on January 31st.   It was like, a month, a month, a month.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - And we launched it through ClickFunnels, and within four months, we'd sold a million dollars of this $37 ebook.   Stephen - Do the math on that, people.   Natalie - Yeah.   Stephen - How many people? That's crazy.   Natalie - Yeah, it was really crazy. We don't sell the physical version, but this is the physical version, and it's just an ebook. I mean, there's nothing super fancy about it. It's kind of text, parts of it are kind of textbooky.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - I partnered with the doctor to write that. I'm glad I did because she has the credibility, and I have the connection, so it's kind of like a one-two punch.   Stephen - I love that, yeah.   Natalie - I don't think I could have created that program 100% on my own, because when you're talking about the body and anatomy - there are so many things that I wasn't qualified to talk about, but anyways.   So then, it was this whirlwind of like, "Holy crap." Before this, it was just me in front of my computer answering emails.   Then all of a sudden, it's like, "whoa," we have this big company and this big machine, and I need to learn how to hire people and scale and be a CEO of a company instead of just like, a little solopreneur.   Last year was a real whirlwind of a year. I had to learn how to be tough with business. I had to learn the value and the importance of contracts and of not let people take advantage of you.   I had to grow and scale - and create value. I mean, just everything was...   Conceptually, I knew what I needed to do, but applying it was kind of a whirlwind.   I still feel like we're still... we'll always be working on our businesses, but...   So, that was the world's longest answer to "How you got started," but that's how I got involved in the ClickFunnels community.   The one thing I will say is; if anybody is watching this and is skeptical, "I understand," 'cause I felt the exact same way.   But if you just do what Stephen teaches, what Russell teaches it works. It really, really works! It's not scammy.   If you have a good product and a good message to give to the world, follow the system and don't try to change it, and it will work. That's all I did.   I didn't do anything fancy, other than I came up with the idea and the program...  I just did what you guys say to do, and it worked.   Stephen - That's so cool. That's so awesome.   Natalie - Yeah.   Stephen - That's so awesome. Yeah, sometimes people look at it. I had a buddy who looked at it once, and he's like, "That looks like it's scammy," - you know, the same kind of thing. I'm like, "Ah, no, we actually end up delivering more value than if you don't do it this way."   Natalie - Yes, 100% agreed.   Stephen - Fascinating.   Natalie - Yeah.   Stephen - You gave a speech at Funnel Hacking Live which was incredible.  I was so excited. I think we were sitting in the front row, or something like that, I was pumped.   I was like, "Yeah, Natalie's next!" You gave a speech about vulnerability. And you talked about some of the ways you build in vulnerability - and this isn't a weakness.   Natalie - Yeah.   Stephen - Right, but how do you find the strength to be vulnerable?   I guess, first of all, can you tell us what it means to be vulnerable?   You're such an... I don't know if you wanna call it vulnerability secrets, vulnerability expert, or hacks? Whatever, like, but you're really good at doing this in a way that doesn't come across, you know...   It seems like most people are like, "I'm not gonna be vulnerable 'cause it means I'm weak."   Natalie - No, it's not.  I get that, 'cause I felt that way for a long, long time.   So first off, I think a lot of times, especially if you're talking to guys, they will hear the word vulnerable, and they'll be like, "I'm a man. I am not vulnerable," right? And I get that.   So, another way of saying "be vulnerable" is just "be real," right?   Look at Russell. He shares the ups and the downs, and because he shares the downs, you wanna champion and root for him on the ups.   If somebody only shares the good times, then you don't connect as much.   It's almost like we naturally, as humans, have a tendency to...   If you think somebody is only always doing good, it's harder to wanna cheer for them and root for them, you know?   Stephen - "Yeah, the cards are always in that guy's favor... are you kidding?"   Natalie - Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, when it comes to being vulnerable, it's not about crying all the time, and it's not even about being vulnerable all the time.   If you look at my content, 80 to 90% of it is just really good quality content, and then occasionally, I'll add some real honest truth or raw moments into what I share. And what it does is it brings, this isn't my phrase... it from an author named Brene Brown, her books changed my life.   *Natalie looks for books* I don't have them here, but "Daring Greatly" and "Rising Strong" literally, personally and professionally, changed my life.   Brenee is a shame and vulnerability researcher. She teaches that vulnerability is the ultimate human connector because vulnerability and shame cannot survive together.   And so the more vulnerable you are, the less shame can survive, and the less power that story has over you.   And so, you know, we all have moments that we feel embarrassed to talk about, or we think that people will judge us, or we feel ashamed, and what's crazy.   I've found that the more you talk about the hard stuff:   #1: The less shame you feel talking about it, and you start to feel more comfortable with it   #2: People start to open up to you and say, "oh my gosh, me too. I didn't think anybody experienced that."   And so what happens is it creates a different level of trust with your audience.   However, there's a fine line between being vulnerable to get sales and actually being vulnerable, right? That's kind of hard to teach. And so, you know, I didn't start this off saying, "I'm gonna be vulnerable so I can build a big audience and make all this money."   I genuinely have a heart to help people, and selfishly, it helped me along the way, too, because it made me feel less insecure about these things.   People always say, "Okay I get it in theory, it makes sense to be vulnerable, but how do you actually do that without coming across as that crazy person on Facebook that puts all their drama there?"   Stephen - Always crying, the person like, "Oh, crap, unfollow."   Natalie - Yeah, and you're just like, Where's the popcorn. Let's watch their drama unfold." And so I kind of have this four-step system that I didn't mean to create. It's just how I naturally write, but it works really well.   The first thing that I do is #1, remember that you don't always have to share your vulnerable moments in the moment.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - So, if you haven't worked through something and you're still feeling very fragile about it - it's okay to wait to share. Because, I've made that mistake before.   If you get criticism back and you haven't really worked through it yet, that criticism can be shattering to your confidence.   And so, one of the tricks that I have...   For a long time, I struggled, 'cause when you're going through the vulnerable stage when you're really sad or excited or happy or embarrassed or feeling ashamed when you're in the moment, the feelings feel very real...   But sometimes it's hard to sit in front of your computer later and remember the real emotion that you felt during that moment.   So one of the things that I do now, a trick that I have, is I'll pull out my phone and pull up the notes section when I'm in that moment feeling, you know, small or hurt or scared or whatever the feeling is, right? It can be good or bad.   And I'll just shorthand write out the raw feelings. Not like full paragraphs, but, now I have this big catalog of feelings, so if I want to tell a story that relates to this, that relates to body image, or that relates to whatever,  I have all these raw emotions to draw on.   I'm not faking vulnerability. It's my real stuff.  It's my real moments that I can draw from and turn into actual stories.   Another tip: A little family joke is that I'm really bad at analogies, and my family calls them "Natalogies" because a lot of times, like, you know...   The whole crux of expert secrets, is you have to be able to do epiphany bridges and analogies. And my analogies do not make sense half of the time.   I'll say them, and people are like, "that didn't make sense?" I'm just not good at them.   I hope someday, I can learn to be better at analogies. So what I try to do instead is just pull on these stories that I have - and kind of weave it together instead - 'cause my "it's kind of likes" never actually make sense.   So that's like my trick, you know how Russell talks about in the soap opera sequences, to start with the drama - to start with the most dramatic point, and then you tell the back story...   In my posts, a lot of times, I do that.   I start with like the hurt, the pain. Whatever you're feeling, the run moment, start with that, 'cause then people will automatically be like, "Whoa. She's talking about something nobody talks about."   And then what I do is I, and this is just my style. Everybody will find their own style.   But my step number two is to show myself some grace. Remind myself "perfectly imperfect, it's okay," or,  just show yourself some grace, and in some words, type that out.   Then the third step is to try to remind myself of a time when this has happened before and I worked through it -  or when somebody else has gone through something like this and worked through it.   Stephen - Right.   Natalie - And then the fourth step is; I always finish up on a positive note.   So like, either how I worked through it - if this is a past experience, or if I don't know how to work through it, I share what my plan is to try to work through it, even if you fail trying, right?   So what it does is it puts people, like, when you're, when you start with the raw stuff, it makes people feel like, “whoa, like, that could be me, because I've felt that exact same way.”   And then you're giving yourself grace, and you're teaching other people how to show, how to give themselves grace if they're in the same shoes, and then when you talk about how you work through it.   It's like, somebody else could look at you, look at your situation and say, “Whoa, I'm in that situation too, and if she can work through it, I probably can, too.”   And so, I think that's why a lot of my content has gone really viral, is because I make it relatable by sharing, it's not fake. I mean, they're the real moments, and then I come up with like a positive, and it's not.   Stephen - End with hope at the end.   Natalie - It ends with hope, yeah, but it's not like, talking down to somebody.   It's not like, you have to do x, y, and z, or I'm so perfect on my high horse here.   It's more like, we're in this together. We're all in the arena, and we've all fallen down. Let's dust off our knees, and this is how I'm gonna try to stand up. I might get knocked back again, but like, this is what I'm trying.   I don't know if that makes sense at all, but I think that's why... there's an underlying subtleness of talking down to somebody or being on the same playing field and championing everybody to come up together.   I don't know if I have the language to always describe how I do it, but that's kind of the feeling behind it.   I have written and deleted and written and deleted, 'cause I'm like,“This feels like I know everything,” or you know, I'm like talking down, and I never want that to come across that way.   Stephen - Right. Absolutely, and you know, you know what it reminded me of is so like, you know, we always tell people, like, start publishing before you have a big following.   Natalie - Mmhmm.   Stephen - So that you can bring them with you and you become the expert in front of them.   Natalie - Exactly.   Stephen - Rather than become an expert and then start publishing, 'cause it's so less believable.   You've done the same thing with the vulnerability, which is fascinating. Like, yes, start it. Don't be afraid to talk about the low moments, not that it always needs to be low, and it probably shouldn't always be, but you know...   Natalie - Totally.   Stephen - But being open about what's actually going on and doing it in front of 'em rises everyone together. That's fascinating.   Natalie - Well, and what's crazy is that it never gets... well, it's always a process, right?   So, what's weird is that eight years ago, for me to talk about the body image stuff, it was so hard for me, 'cause that's where I was. I was in that phase of my life where I was really struggling with that, right?   And so, I did the work, and I went through the process unintentionally.   I didn't know I was doing the work at the time. I was just being vulnerable. I was sharing.   So what's cool is that, fast forward to now, I don't really have all of those body image insecurities that I had then, and I think it's honestly because I was willing to talk about it in the moment.   Now, fast forward to today, and the issues that I'm struggling with are different.   I'm a different person than I was eight years ago, right?   So when I built my audience with talking about the body image stuff, now, it's like, "okay, I don't feel like I have to talk about that as much, 'cause I've not grown past it," - that's not the right word, but  it's not my main focus anymore. And now it's...   Like, okay, you know, I went through a divorce, and I haven't really talked about that very much publicly.   But now it's like, "Okay, now I'm sitting in this moment where  I'm at a crossroads." Am I gonna do what has worked for me in the past and be vulnerable and open up and share these things that feel uncomfortable to me again, right?   It's not the body image stuff anymore. Now it's personal development and relationships and the struggles that I've had with my business.   Like, it's always changing.   So vulnerability is never like, you just learn how to be vulnerable and you've got it. Like, it's always easy.   It is easier for me to be vulnerable on the body image stuff, but now it's shifted to "how can I grow?"   And the only hope I have is that I know that it worked with the body stuff. So  I'm hoping that five years down the road, I can look back and say, "Okay, I was scared to be vulnerable.  I was scared to talk about these things, but it got me into this confident, comfortable zone because I shared."   Stephen - No, totally, totally. Like, I went through a lot of the exact same, you know, it's funny because I feel like it's the emotion that binds people.   While I haven't gone through a divorce, there are other times where I felt really vulnerable as well. And so whilst that person may not have gone through a divorce, if we didn't have the same experiences, we did have the same emotions, and being able to expose the emotion, I feel like, is what binds people. I think it's interesting what you said.   Anyway, quirks, the little quirks that you have or the little vulnerabilities you have, that's your superpower. That's the reason people follow you. They don't follow you because of pure perfection 24/7. That actually annoys people after a while. But you actually get personal healing along the way. Like that's so, that's so amazing.   Could you tell us a little bit... I mean, this is Sales Funnel Radio, and you're talking about your sales funnel. Like, what does this have to do with sales funnels? Why does it matter? 'Cause it totally does, but just for everyone else, you know.   Natalie - Well, it 100% matters because the thing that I've learned is although I'm not the best trainer in the world. Like, I will be the first to admit that. Yes, I'm a personal trainer, but like, people don't buy my programs because....   I mean there are probably people that can talk science better than I can. I stumble over my words. I have mild dyslexia, and I mix up scientific terms all the time. But the reason people follow me and the reason people buy my programs, the reason we were able to sell so many of this book, is because of the connection.   I owned a company called Dollar Workout Club a couple of years ago, and we would film our workouts, and we never cut the cameras. And we would always be joking and be like, "guys, if you're at home you can relate to the doorbell ringing or whatever, right?" And it was very relatable.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - Well, in one of the workouts, I happened to be wearing gray shorts, and Drew, the only guy, the other trainer, wrote the workout, and it was all jumping exercises, right?   So, we're doing the jumping, and I'm like, "Oh, crap." I could tell I was like, peeing my pants a little bit, right?   It was so embarrassing.  I'm wearing gray shorts and you can see this little tiny spot, then by the end, my whole butt was just... it was so gross. It's just covered in pee. At the end, I'm trying to stretch and turn sideways so you can't see.   Anyways, I could have never shared that, and I didn't for a while. I was really embarrassed about it. But we have that footage. So then when I went to go create this program, I could take screenshots from that video. I could take the actual video and put it in my funnel.   So what happened is people were like, "Whoa, this woman actually peed her pants." Like, this is embarrassing. I mean, truth be told, this program almost didn't come out, 'cause I had to have a heart-to-heart with myself really, and say, "okay, Natalie, are you willing to tell the whole world that you used to pee your pants," you know?   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - But what happens is then you can put those real stories in your funnel. You can put the photos. And it's kind of like instead of social proof this is your real story and your real-life proof.   "Whoa, this woman understands me and this woman gets me." Because the truth is that real change, like, I can give you the best meal plan and the best workout program in the whole world, but it's not gonna have a lasting, long-term effect until you make that internal change and have that belief in yourself.   I feel like that is my gift, is helping people see their value and their power. And so, you know...   Stephen - People kind of have an identity shift with the vulnerability that you have, almost. That's fascinating.   Natalie - 100%. And so that's the psychology behind it.  I think that when you are willing to be real vulnerable, not fake vulnerable... If you're willing to be real vulnerable, people can relate to that. And once people relate to it, they begin to trust you, and then once they trust you, they'll buy from you.   My biggest fear is that when people listen to me talk about this, they're gonna be like, "Oh, I see dollar signs. I'm just gonna like, figure out how I can be vulnerable." But the truth is, people are smart. Your customers are smart, and they will smell out fake vulnerability.   Stephen - Right.   Natalie - And so.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - The biggest thing... If you're sitting there and you're thinking, "There's no way I could ever talk about this," then you're on the right path. That's how you know it's real vulnerability.   If you seriously feel nervous to share it and talk about it, and you think: “Everybody will think I'm a fraud. Everybody will think I'm a bad parent." Everybody will think I'm a bad husband or wife. Nobody's gonna find me attractive."   All of these things, these stories that we tell ourselves that you feel if you start talking about, people are gonna think you're terrible... Guess what? That's the real good stuff that you need to be talking about and sharing if you wanna create real connection and live a wholehearted life.   Stephen - Totally believe that yeah. 'Cause I struggled. Anyway, when you got up, and you were speaking about that on stage, I was like, "Man, I know, I feel ya, holy crap."   I had like, zero confidence. So rather than choose not to be active and do this game, I just called out my fear publicly, and that became a theme for a little bit.   It was like, "Look, guys, I don't really wanna be doing this, although I got something cool to show you, all right?"   And for a while, that was the theme of it. And then as I grew up and healed, (I like how you said that) I passed certain things in front of the audience.   Then it was like, "Whoa, I've gotta wait for this new episode," or "what's he doing now?" And it was crazy, crazy. That was worth more than me putting hundreds of episodes out of just the best content ever.   Natalie - Yeah.   Stephen - It was crazy, crazy what that did.   So, what would you say is, like...   So you tell people, go ahead and start recording down things that are going on in the moment. Don't feel the pressure to go ahead and say it in the moment, which I totally agree with. I don't know if I can handle that.   Natalie - Well, and it can be whatever platform you like the most, right? Mine happened to be Facebook, but some people are better at YouTube, or some people are better at podcasting or Instagram.   There's not one that's better or worse. Just find what feels the easiest for you and start there.   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - I will say too...   So, one of the downsides of being vulnerable is, and I don't let this scare you from being vulnerable, but it does happen. It still happens to me.   So when you're open and transparent about your life, for some reason, and I get it. We're that way with celebrities, right?   You're like, "I wanna know why they broke up." And both sides of the story; people feel like they know every aspect of your life. And I do share a lot, but I don't share everything.   And so what can happen is that you get harsh people on the internet. And we all get that anyways. Even just last night.   I get mean from people messages every day pretty much.   Luckily, I have my team now to kind of shield me from it, just 'cause it's like silly.   Stephen - I have to do the same, yeah.   Natalie - Yeah, just 'cause it's hard for me to continue to be vulnerable if I'm always reading the negative messages.   Stephen - Yeah, I'm the same.   Natalie - But one woman was like, "You are so different from how you used to be. You used to share your progress photos, and now you just talk about your life."   The truth is, we all change and grow as people, right? And so for me, posting an ab selfie now, I don't get validation or fulfillment. I don't need that like I did six years ago. So, yeah, if you look at my feed, I don't post as much like, like, body image stuff, because I'm kind of like in a different space.   And so what will happen is that as you're transparently sharing what you're focused on in your life, sometimes, you will get people that you don't attract anymore.   Like, they're still in a different area, and they want to follow people that are in that area, and that's okay.   What I've had to learn is that the number-one thing when you get mean people on the internet, and it took me a long time to figure this out, is that it's so much more about them and what they're personally struggling with than it is about you, you know?   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - Okay, so, for example, my peach tree. So we had a big wind storm. I'm sure you saw it 'cause we live in the same town.   So, this tree that I've nurtured for two years, finally had some fruit coming off of it, well the storm completely broke the tree, and I was really sad. I posted about it on my Insta Story, and she wrote back, and she was calling me all these mean names, and she's like, "To think that your biggest worry right now is that your peach tree died. My mom just died, and my brother is sick."     And I realize she's hurting because of that, and she's lashing out at me, right?   So it's a reflection of her. It's not a reflection of me. And so that was the hardest thing I had to learn, being open and vulnerable in the online space, is that you will get critics.   I always say it's like the people in the peanut gallery out there who aren't, like...   I'll listen to criticism from people who are in the arena with me, right, people who are battling and fighting and trying and working hard, but if it's just a critic out in the peanut gallery that isn't there fighting along with me, then their opinion doesn't matter.   It's probably more about them than me.   Stephen - You're better than I am, then. There are times I just, I don't know.   Natalie - Well, I did block her.   Stephen - I like to fight with 'em sometimes. And I shouldn't, and I'm growing past that, and there's me being vulnerable. I like to stir the pot sometimes when it's already brewing.   Natalie - You should talk about that, Stephen. So you should talk about it-  not just like the fun, "I said this, and he said that" but the real issues, "why did that trigger you?" And what's the story behind that insecurity?   Those are the things that people love. Not just the story, but going deeper into the feeling or the "why" behind it - you know?   Stephen - Yeah.   Natalie - I don't know.   Stephen - I told you, yeah, some of it's going on right now still with some other people. Like, it comes in waves. I don't know if that happens for you too.   Natalie - Yes.   Stephen - It's like the criticism goes down, whoa, and then it goes away, and you're like, everything rocks, and then you try something big again, and everyone's like, "whoa!" Not everyone, but there's like, anyway, the talking heads, as I call them, come on out. It's the armchair quarterbacks.   Natalie - Uh-huh, 100%.   Stephen - Yeah, I told you, and I've been planning on doing that. Funny you say that. I just haven't quite formulated how to do it yet, so.   Natalie - Yeah.   Stephen - It's top of mind.   I wanna thank you for being on here with everyone, and guys, Sales Funnel Radio, we're talking about vulnerability.   This is everything, especially if you are the attractive character in your own business - which I hope that you are, and you choose to be.   This is not a tiny subject. It's something that you will not have the choice to go around. You will address it whether it's through haters or your own personal growth. You're gonna get it.   So, please, please go follow Natalie. Natalie, where should people go to follow you?   Natalie - My website is nataliehodson.com, or Facebook is Natalie Hodson Official. Instagram is nataliehodson1   Stephen - Cool.   Natalie - If anybody has any questions, you know, you can leave 'em, and I'll keep checking 'em. I'll answer them and stuff.   The books that I talked about are Brene Brown's Daring Greatly and Rising Strong.  I think they're books every single human being on this planet should listen to.   I call the books magic, 'cause I've listened to them probably six times now, and every time, I need to hear a different piece. I gain something different from them every time, you know? They're good books.   Stephen - I wrote it down. I'm excited. I'm gonna go get them right after this.   Natalie - Cool.   Stephen - That's awesome. Everyone, guys, thank you so much.   Please reach out to Natalie and say thank you and go follow her, and watch her practice what she preaches on this stuff. It's fantastic and amazing - and that lets her audience open up as well.   So Natalie, thank you so much for being on, and it's been a pleasure.   Natalie - Yeah, you're so welcome.   Stephen - Woohoo, hey, thanks for listening.   Hey, many don't know that I actually made my first money online as an affiliate marketer.   If you wanna know how I funded my entire company without using any of my own money ever, you can learn to do the same for free at affiliateoutrage.com.

How to create the right hook that’ll make it so that selling becomes almost super easy. On this episode Russell gives a condensed version of a training he did for Two Comma Club X, where he teaches about the hook, story and offer. Here are some of the things you will hear on today’s episode: Why it’s so important to have a hook that grabs people’s attention. What he used as the hook for his recently launched Book of Mormon Challenge Podcast. A few other examples of hooks people used to sell their own products, and why they were so effective. So listen here to get a quick idea of what you need to know about having a great hook and story to be able to really sell what you’re offering. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I’m going to be talking about a hook, a story, and an offer. Alright everybody, I hope that today has been amazing for you so far, whenever you’re listening to this. I want to share with you, a lot of you know that we launched, at the Funnel Hacking Live event we launched the Two Comma Club X coaching program, and it’s insanely good. It’s amazing, but there’s kind of the pros and the cons of it. The pros are it gives you everything you could possibly need to start, launch, scale, grow your company. The bad thing is there’s like so much stuff that people get overwhelmed. So I wanted to go through and record a fast track that kind of goes through a higher level, like fast track of all the courses in order so people kind of know where they’re going. So this week I recorded module number two, or fast track number two, which was called hook, story and offer. And went on for like 45 minutes, and I think it was pretty good, and then one of the guys in the group, he’s probably listening to this right now, so by the way, thank you. He said that, “I listened to every one of Russell’s podcasts, I’ve been to two Funnel Hacking Live events, I’ve done every course, every book, that was the best training I’ve ever done from Russell.” I was like, “That’s awesome.” And I had a 45 minute conversation with Dave Woodword and James Friel when we were lifting weights on Wednesday, talking about it as well. And unfortunately I have to jump on a video here in like an hour, so I can’t go too deep into this, but I did want to share some thoughts with you guys because I think it’s super, super, super essential and I wanted you guys to think through it for yourself. So what I want to talk about is, what’s the hook and the story of what it is you’re selling? Now, in the video that I did for our Two Comma Club X members, it was like, I was going into offer hacking. How to find people’s offers and hack them and all sorts of stuff like that, but one of the biggest things we talked about and we noticed is the key is like, for the really good offers, there’s three pieces. There’s the hook, the hook that grabs you. What’s the thing that grabs you? What’s the thing that grabs you? And then there’s the story you tell behind that, and then there’s the actual offer that they’re going to get. And then each component of the offer there’s a hook, a story and an offer for each component of the offer. I wish I had more time to share everything, but the thing I wanted to share with you guys today is, it’s one of the most important things. What’s the hook of the story that you’re sharing? And if you don’t have one yet, you need to create that. So in the video I went through and I took, if you guys know Drew Manning, he’s one of our Two Comma Club winners, he’s an awesome dude. He’s got a program called Fit to Fat to Fit. And his story is, he was a trainer for his whole life and helped a lot of people get skinny, but he never actually knew what it was like, so he’s like, “You know what, I’m going to get fat and then I’m going to try to get fit again.” So he went and gained like, I don’t know, 100 pounds and told the whole world. “This is what I’m doing, I’m gaining a bunch of weight, it’s going to be a huge thing. I’m going to fat and then I’m going to lose it again.” And because of this story, this hook of this story he got tons of PR, he was on Jay Leno, all sorts of stuff. And now it’s like, whatever he sells, it’s like, “Hey, I’m Drew, I’m the fit to fat to fit guy. I’m the guy who was a trainer who never knew what it was like to be fat so I gained a whole bunch of weight and then I lost it all again.” And then anything that he says after that, people will give him money. You want to know why? Because the hook of the story is so good. Drew, if you’re listening to this, there’s a lot of critiques I could give you to help you make your offers better, because that’s…but because the hook, it doesn’t really matter. A good hook and a good story will make up for a lot of other stuff. He’s killing it, and I was like, imagine, there’s stuff that…..anyway, someday I’m going to work with him personally and just be like, “This is how you ramp it up.” But his hook and his story is so good that he’s making millions of dollars now. I was thinking about this, throughout time. If you guys remember Robert Allen, he has sold over a billion dollars under the Robert Allen brand. And Robert Allen had a really good hook and a story. He told people, “you could take me anywhere in the world, throw me in any city without any contacts or whatever, and within a month I will have purchased a house with no money down.” Or whatever. He told people that and no one believed him. So he actually did it, did this big PR stunt, went and flew somewhere, did the whole thing and boom, he became Robert Allen because of that, the hook and the story. Natalie Hodson, Natalie spoke at Funnel Hacking Live, she’s amazing. What’s amazing about Natalie is the hook in her story. It’s funny, because there are people now who are trying to knock off one of her products, her first Two Comma Club product. It took her 4 months to go from zero to Two Comma Club with a $37 ebook, which was teaching women who, mothers how to not pee your pants. “Abs, Core, Pelvic Floor.” And she sold like 50 or 60 thousand copies of this ebook. It’s funny because there are a lot of people now trying to knock her off, and they’re all going to fail because they’re copying the offer but they’re missing the hook and the story. So what’s Natalie’s hook and story. Well she was on a…I think she was actually in a video with Drew, if I remember right, it’s a small world. Anyway, so she’s filming a video, a workout video and in the video she pees her pants. And instead of hiding it she decides this is a good, I don’t know if she consciously did this, but she put it out there and it’s an amazing hook. “I’m a fitness trainer, I’m teaching people how to lose weight and I’m sitting there live on camera and I peed my pants, here’s pictures of it, it’s so embarrassing.” So she tells that story, the hook and story and people get excited. And then boom, 60 thousand copies of her book later. The hook and the story were so, so good. And the better the hook and the story are, I’m not saying the offer can be worse, but like, the better hook the story is, you can sell anything. It’s funny, Drew is actually selling Ketosis stuff now which has nothing to do with his actual fit to fat to fit story, but the story and hook is so good, he tells the story, people are hooked and then boom, he can sell them whatever he wants at that point. So for you, I want you thinking, what’s my story, what’s the thing? Some of you guys may know, I launched my religion podcast this week actually, yeah this week. I went through the same process here, I could just make a podcast like, “Hey, I’m going to teach you what my beliefs are..” but the hook and story were horrible. I need a hook and I need a story. It’s got o be something that’s going to drag people in. The good thing about stories is people share stories. They’re like, “Oh, there’s this girl named Natalie..” “Oh this guy named Drew he went fit to fat…” and they tell the story right. So I was like, I need a story. I didn’t consciously do this, but this is what came out. I was like, I need something really, really cool. So the hook for my podcast was basically, “I’m Mormon, I believe in the Book of Mormon, and I look at my house, there’s all these Book of Mormon’s laying on the ground everywhere that I never read. They just sit there. And I realized this thing that’s so important to me, I’m not treating it…I’m treating it lightly.” And so I was like, I need to make this real to me. So I went online and I found on eBay a copy of one of the original 5000 Books of Mormon, I spent a small fortune on it, and now I’m reading it and sharing my journey because I want to make it special to you again, right. So that was the hook. And now I got all these people who are sharing my podcast that are like, “This dude Russell, he..” all my Mormon friends, it’s kind of fun watching. They’re sharing it and like, “my friend Russell, he’s a Mormon too..” so they’re sharing it in Seminaries and Elders Quorum. Anyway, it’s kind of fun how fast it’s growing inside the church because everyone’s like, they feel that same way. Like, “Man I feel the same way.” If you’re Mormon and you’re like, “I don’t treat the Book of Mormon like I should.” And all the sudden there’s this guy who felt the same way so now he spent a fortune, bought an original one and now he’s taking us on a journey.” And all the sudden people are like, “Oh, I want to be part of that story.” I’m sure there’s a lot of people who, I think about Drew and again, I don’t know Drew’s whole story, I don’t know him super well. But you know, one of the biggest things in the weight loss space, I see when people try to teach people how to lose weight, but they’ve never been fat in the past, it’s hard for them to get a lot of traction. A lot of times they can do personal training, but it’s hard for them to blow up as a celebrity, as a guru, as an expert or whatever you want to call it because the masses are like, “Well they don’t know what it’s like to be fat.” So he told that story and now everyone’s like, “Dude, this trainer who wanted to prove that he could do it. So he gained all this weight.” Now it’s a story worth sharing, it’s a good hook. Now the same thing happened with this, it was a story so it started getting spread. Then this week I was like, “I need another good hook and good story. What can I do to get people listening to this, now that it’s live and it’s launched?” Some of you guys saw yesterday, I actually, there’s this guy in the Mormon church, his name is Parley P. Pratt, he lived back in the 1800s. And someone gave him a copy of one of the original Book of Mormons, because that’s all that they had back when they first came out. And he started reading it and he read the entire thing in a day. He said that eating and sleeping became a nuisance to him. Anyway, I found out that yesterday was actually his birthday, so I was like, “I’m going to do a Parley P. Pratt day.” So I took the day off of work, and I went and read the entire, well I tried. I spend 18 hours, I almost got halfway done. It’s a big book. But I read the whole thing. I did a Facebook live where Italked about it. And this is something that I put zero dollars in advertizing behind, I just posted on my personal wall, “Hey, I’m doing this crazy thing.” And from that, I think this morning it had like 3.9 thousand views, over 1500 comments, likes, and shares, like interactions with it. And hundreds and hundreds of people subscribed to the podcast from it. So it was like this thing. I made a story, an event, a thing out of it and that’s what got people excited. It was the hook and the story. Now people are subscribing to the podcast. If you’re interested in my beliefs and my faith go to bookofmormonchallenge.com you can subscribe and listen in. But that’s kind of what it is right, you’re creating a story, you’re creating a hook and story that gets people interested.

My own personal biggest take-aways from the first day of Funnel Hacking Live. On today’s episode Russell talks about the events and speakers from the first day of 2018 Funnel Hacking Live. Here are some of the coolest parts of day one: Seeing all the Two Comma Club winners, as well as the all the people who made 8 figures and their awesome awards. Finding out what Operation Underground Railroad is and how much money they were able to raise on their behalf. Being able to watch the documentary film about OUR, to inspire people to help. So listen to this episode to be able to relive what happened the first day of Funnel Hacking Live, or be filled with regret if you missed it. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I’m going to recap day number 1 of 4 of the Funnel Hacking Live event. What’s up everybody? I hope you guys who were here at Funnel Hacking Live with us, made it home safely and that you had a great time. The journey of the last four days has been amazing. I found a cool spot of quietness here. You’ll probably see people walking back and forth with their suitcases, but hopefully that’s alright with you guys. I just wanted to kind of, over the next four days recap Funnel Hacking Live. A lot of you guys were there, some of you guys weren’t, the crazy ones weren’t. But everybody else was there and those who were crazy enough not to come this time, I know you’ve got your tickets for next time already coming. If not, depending on when you go, funnelhackinglive.com has tickets for next year, but it’s going to be pulled down either today or tomorrow. So if you don’t have your tickets yet, go and get them for next year’s event. But I wanted to kind of just spend a little time over the next four days going through some of the key take-aways, key points, and key ideas that happened at the event. So hopefully those of you guys who missed it will get some insights and you’ll have more reason to come next year. Some of the things, first off, this year….Funnel Hacking Live’s in the past have been three days, but for some reason four or five months ago at like two in the morning, I had this idea that like, to get everything done that I needed to do, it had to happen in four days. So we shifted it to basically a three and a half day event and it’ll probably end up being four days next year, just to get all the cool stuff in that we’re trying to plan. It takes at least three and a half, four days to change somebody’s life. We’re trying to change 3,000+ people’s lives, it’s a lot of work. But to kind of give you an end result of what happened and then we’ll kind of back fill over the next few days. This event was amazing. We raised over a million dollars for Operation Underground Railroad. Those who are watching the video, I’m wearing the shirt that everybody got. I’ll talk about that here in a minute. Number two, we had 91 new people on stage that got two comma club awards, which is amazing. We’re up to 258 people now that have achieved that. We have 15 people who have made 8 figures, over ten million dollars in a funnel, who got their new award which is this huge plaque. It’s twice as big as the two comma club one. Plus they got these rings that are like 2 karats of gold and four karats of diamonds. So we gave those away, which was insanely cool as well. 3,000+ people were here and then we launched our new two comma club x coaching program to get people from 0 to a million, a million to ten and I’m not going to share the exact numbers, but those who were there know that it was crazy. 30 days ago at Grant Cardone’s event, I got onstage and did over 3 million dollars in sales in 90 minutes. And at this event we did, again I’m not going to give you the exact numbers, but it was over 10 million dollars in sales, which is insane. A new world record. And it was more than that, it was crazy. I’m not going to share the numbers, not because I don’t mind sharing numbers, more so because at Grant Cardone’s event there was $3 million cash in the bank account in that time, this was different because there was two options. There was $1800 a month or $18,000 a year. So if I was to say an exact number it would have been stomper math, which is a joke for another day. But it was amazing and I’m excited for the over 650+ people who decided to take a leap of faith and go on this journey for the next 12 months. And in 12 months from now, my guess is that most of those guys will be back onstage. My goal for next year is to have 500 new people to get the two comma club award and from that we’re going to get dozens and dozens who get the 8 figure award. So it’s insane. But I wanted to kind of recap. One of the main reasons we decided to do this extra day, probably 7 or 8 months ago, I’m not going to share all the details of the story, but I got a call from somebody who I’ve respected my entire life, asked me if I’d be willing to help with this project called Operation Underground Railroad. I didn’t know what that was at the time. I remember I jumped on that night and started Googling and searching it, and watching videos and I remember the feeling. In fact, if you guys watch Funnel Hacker TV, that night I made a video and I said, “I feel like the direction of my life will be forever changed because of this.” At the time we were planning Funnel Hacking Live and I’m like, how can we weave Operation Underground Railroad into Funnel Hacking Live? What’s the process? How do we do that? And a few months later, during a time of a lot of prayer, trying to figure out the best way to serve this audience and have our community to help them, I had an idea that we needed to make a documentary. I was like, I don’t know how to make a documentary. But I met a guy named Nick Nanton a couple of years earlier. I didn’t know him super well, I just knew that he had won  6 Emmy’s and done like 50 different documentaries and this voice in my head said, “Call Nick.” I was like, I don’t even know Nick’s number. So I messaged him on Facebook like, “Hey man, I need to talk to you.” This is like 5 minutes after I heard the voice in my head say, “Call Nick.” So I’m like, okay I’m doing what I’m told. I messaged Nick, got him on Voxer, I voxed him and said, “hey man, I don’t know how but I think we need to make a documentary about Operation Underground Railroad, are you in?” and he’s like, “Dude, I’m 100% in.” I said, “The only thing is we have to do this by Funnel Hacking Live. We have to show it at Funnel Hacking Live.” He’s like, “dude, that’s not very much time.” I was like, “I know but it has to happen.” And he’s like, “Alright, we’ll make it work.” So over the last 5 months since that call, he’s flown to Haiti, flown around the world, filming, documenting, all these kind of things. So at Funnel Hacking Live, we had the chance to actually watch the documentary. And it was cool because when we had orchestrated the day, the very first presentation I had was called “Funnel Hackers: we see things differently” which was kind of the whole premise of the event. We had a really cool video that I’m sure we’ll post online here soon, of just kind of that concept. I was sharing different people in our community who have changed people’s lives and their businesses. I talked about Stacy and Paul who have saved over 10,000 marriages, I talked about Pamela who save hundreds of thousands of doctors lives from doctor suicide. I talked about Annie Grace who’ve helped all sorts of people break the chains of alcohol addiction, then I talked about Tim Ballard who has saved over a thousand kids from sex trafficking. So I shared that in the original presentation and I said, “Tonight we’re going to have a chance to watch this documentary together as a community.” Then after I got off stage Kaelin Poulin came on stage, it was so good. She came up and talked about how she’s built her cult-ture. Man, it was good. Her whole presentation was amazing. I’ve heard her talk about this before, I’ve been studying her like crazy. One thing she said, there’s so many good things, but one thing I took away that was like, she was talking about how you’re empowering people to become super heroes and change their life and she talked about funnel swag and how that’s like their super hero cape. If you give them swag wearing your brand, your logo, your message, your mission, then they feel more empowered and they’re literally everyday putting on their super hero costume. I was like, oh my gosh. I’ve been a big believer in swag since the whole funnel hacker movement began and we got tons and tons of shirts. This shirt for example, OUR shirt, this is one that I’m wearing right now, this is now part of my super hero costume. I put this on and I’m out there ready to save kids. And what’s cool, is we actually had a funnel swag store here at the Funnel Hacking Live event this year, which is the first time we’ve ever done that. I think we’re going to start going harder into swag because I want everyone feeling more empowered. I want every morning when our community wakes up and they put on a funnel hacker shirt, or I build funnels, or I build follow up funnels, or all the different swag we have to empower them and it’s literally like your super hero costume. That was one of the thousand amazing things she said during her presentation. I feel bad, most of the speakers had 30 minutes to speak and I wish that her and everyone could have gone longer. But she spoke and then right after her we had Natalie Hodson come up. And Natalie, she cracked me up, her first four slides are like, “I’m Natalie Hodson, this is me I was broke.” She flipped to the next slide, “This is me, I peed my pants on live camera and then I made the two comma club award. The end.” It was like boom, boom, boom. I was like, “What?” and everyone was like, “What?” and then she came back and told her whole story about vulnerability and how one of her most vulnerable times was, she’s in the fitness industry and she was recording a video and she actually  peed her pants on camera and how embarrassing it was. And she could have and probably should have hid that, but instead she said, “No, this is my most vulnerable thing, so I’m going to share this because no one else is willing to talk about it.” So she shared this thing and wrote an e-book teaching women how to strengthen themselves, so they won’t have that same problem that she had. She sold 60,000 copies of her e-book in four months and became a Two Comma club winner with a $37 e-book. And it was just so cool when she talked about the power of vulnerability and how to do it, like real vulnerability. I’m going to try to block this wind, it’s coming in hard. Anyway, real vulnerability, not the type that some people try to put out there online. And it was also amazing. So we led with two of the most amazing women speakers in our community, which were amazing. At Funnel Hacking Live this, almost half the speakers were women. My goal next year is to have more than half of the speakers be women, because our women are doing such amazing things. I’m going to let this lawnmower pass. This is what happens when you’re recording a live podcast, right, without a mic. Anyway, they both spoke and I think it was amazing and I think it gave people faith and hope and understanding of how to build a community and then how to open up yourself as the leader, which is the hardest thing, how to be vulnerable. So many times we as leaders try to be so postured and perfect and put on a good face for people and the reality is that actually pushes people away more than it draws them to you. Actually breaking down your barriers and being vulnerable, truly vulnerable and not, what did she call it. “Oh, ever since I lost all this weight these pants are so baggy.” That’s fake vulnerability. True vulnerability is like, the thing she mentioned is, “I was at the grocery store today and I saw my ex-husband with his new girlfriend and it broke me down.” That’s something truly vulnerable that you can share that has a bigger impact. Both those messages were so awesome, then afterwards, after they both spoke, then we had, I got onstage with Todd Dickerson, my partner, I basically brought him onstage and I introduced Operation Underground Railroad. We had Tim Ballard come up and we had Nick Nanton both come up to talk about what they were doing and they came up and we showed the trailer of the documentary, which is, you guys now could go see it. I posted it live. Go to OURfilm.org, if you go there you can actually see the trailer. If you do go watch it, please share it as well. I’m trying to get everyone in our community to share it, but OURfilm.org. We watched the trailer and everyone went crazy. I said, “This is a hard film to watch. I haven’t actually seen it yet. Tim hasn’t seen it yet. Nick’s the only one who’s seen it, but if you want to watch it tonight, we’re going to take a break and go and do our speed networking, but when you come back you can have a chance to watch this together as a community. But it is hard, so if you’re not able to come back, I totally understand as well.” So at that point, I basically talked about how for anyone who was at the event, unfortunately this is only available at the event, but for $250 they would get the recordings of the event and it would go towards Operation Underground Railroad. $2500 would save a kid, and $10,000 would save a kid and rehabilitate them. And then they could also sign up for monthly if they wanted to go on a recurring donation and keep helping long term. Basically I told everybody that, and this was Todd’s idea the night before. Todd said, “What if we matched everyone’s donation?” I’m like, “Are you serious?” So we decided anyone who donated, we would match their donation. So that was what we put out there and from that a whole bunch of people went and started donating money, which was so cool. I think the first night we raised like 200 and something thousand dollars and with our match it was 400,000. So throughout the event we kept talking about that and talking about that, it was cool. So then we broke and had this vender speed dating where everyone had the chance to network, meet other venders, and we paid for dinner for everyone, which is a big bill to feed 3,000 people, but everyone came and ate, it was cool. Everyone got a chance to network and hangout and get to know each other, which is cool. When that ended we invited people to come back in and watch the documentary. I would say we probably had, conservatively, 85% of everybody came back, which was really, really cool. We watched the documentary together as a group and man, I cried for an hour straight. I couldn’t even compose myself. Then we came onstage afterwards, Nick and Tim and I and we couldn’t even….I couldn’t compose myself, it was so hard. And then we let people ask questions. A lot of people needed closure after that obviously, and we let people open the mics and ask Tim questions and he responded and it was just so cool. And then we gave people another push, “donate to charity. Again, we’re matching it. Go and help.” I think that night we had raised over 300,000, with our match made over 600,000. At that point, Todd and I were like, “Let’s see if we could do a million. I think we could do a million.” So throughout the event we kept pushing that and pushing that and before lunch the final day we were just below a million dollars. I came up on stage and I’m like, “you guys, we’re just below a million dollars. Anyone else who goes and donates, if you guys all donate $250 I will not only give you the recordings to this year’s event, I’ll give you the recordings for all past year events as well. And they went and did that, everyone stepped up and when we came back from lunch we had just crossed the million dollar mark and it was cool. And what was crazy, this is the best part of the story. At the end of the documentary, which you guys will have a chance to see here soon, in fact go to ourfilm.org and go and register, we’re going to be doing a big, huge live online premier here soon. You can go register and watch it with us together as a community. But when we went there……at the end of the documentary, I’m trying to catch my thoughts here….At the end of the documentary, I don’t want to ruin it for you, but basically two of the children that Tim rescued, he’s been trying to adopt for the last 3 ½ - 4 years, and he’d just gotten the call before he flew to our event, that they were able to go get them. So he actually flew from our event to Haiti to pick up his children. So on the last day, right before Tony Robins got on stage, we were able to Skype in Tim Ballard from his home, it was so cool. We Skyped him in, he was with his two new kids he’d just adopted. Everyone got to see them, meet them and then we had some of the OUR operators who were there, onstage, we had them come up and we got his huge check and we wrote the total, One million dollars, thirteen thousand or whatever it was and we presented it to their team and also to Tim. It was super emotional and amazing. And what’s cool is Tony Robins is their biggest donor right now, he’s raised more money than anyone else, he actually went on a sting operation with them, went undercover and all sorts of crazy stuff. So we did that and Tony came out right afterwards and was talking all about them and the mission and it was so cool. The whole thing was amazing. So I just wanted to give you guys a glimpse of that, for those who missed it. That was day number one and it was an emotional day. I remember going to bed that night and I was like, we had started at noon that day, it was supposed to be half a day, we got done about midnight. I was just like, that was an emotionally draining day, how are we going to do three more days of this? But we did and it was amazing. So that’s the recap of day number one, I just wanted to share that with you guys. So those who weren’t here had a chance to hear and see what happened. I’ll let the rolling bag go by so you can continue to hear me. But that was day number one and it was awesome. So throughout this week I’m going to share, I’m here with my kids at Disney for the rest of the week, so each day I’ll kind of share each day, the big take-aways and aha’s. But that was what happened day number one. So for you guys right now, I recommend the biggest thing to do right now is go to ourfilm.org and go watch the trailer and share it. You can donate on the thank you page afterwards and start sharing with people. When you guys do that, you’ll be on a waiting list, but when the big event goes live, when the documentary goes live, you can actually see it with us as a community, which is going to be super fun. So that’s it for today, go watch at ourfilm.org, check out the documentary, opt in to be on the list to see the live documentary in the next few weeks when we go live, and please share it on Facebook, Instagram, tell your friends and family, everyone you know because this is a mission worth talking about and worth sharing. I told everyone day one, the biggest thing is that slavery is existing here. It’s happening in America, around the world  and nobody even knows about it. So my goal with this documentary is to shine a light on the darkness. If you shine a light in a room full of cockroaches, they all scurry to the corner and they hide and that’s what we’re trying to do, blow this thing up and shine a light on the darkness. So the best way you can help them and this organization is to go to ourfilm.org and share that message right now and get ready for the launch of the documentary which is coming soon. Anyway, that’s day number one you guys, again I’ll recap each day, each of the next things and I hope you guys love it. Again, thanks so much for everyone that was here, I hope you guys enjoyed it. I cannot wait to start working with our 650+ people in the Two Comma Club x coaching program. I got some amazing things in store for you guys. We’re going on a cruise with everybody at the end of it, which is going to be insane and it’s going to be amazing. So again, thanks for everything you guys, appreciate you all. Thanks to everyone who came to Funnel Hacking Live and we’ll see you guys soon. Bye everybody.

Listen as “The Goat Farmer” drops some powerful Q & A during this episode of Marketing Secrets. On this special episode Russell is interviewed by Dana Derricks for Decade in a Day. Here are some of the fun and informative questions you will get to hear the answers to: What would be the one thing Russell would suggest anybody starting out in business should focus on? What’s Russell’s biggest secret to building funnels? What Russell wishes he would have done differently? And what Russell’s team relieves him from? So listen here for the answers to these questions and many more from Dana Derricks. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. I’m so excited to have you here. Today I’m going to share with you a behind the scenes interview with my man, Mr. Dana Derricks. Hey everyone, welcome back to Marketing Secrets. If you have not yet subscribed, if you are on iTunes, please subscribe and leave us a comment. If you are watching this one YouTube, please click on our YouTube channel and subscribe so you keep getting amazing videos like this. Right now, what I want to share with you guys is behind the scenes of an interview that happened earlier last week. Dana Derricks is in my inner circle program, he just started year number two and when someone joins my inner circle, or they re-up after a year, I let them be part of what we call Decade in a Day. Decade in a Day is basically where I take a decade of my life experiences, my business experiences and jam it into a day for that person. Basically I do this about once a month with my inner circle members. And it was really funny because this time, Dana showed up and instead of just asking me a bunch of, or instead of doing a normal consult back and forth, he just came back and said, “Hey I have a whole list of questions I want for you.” Some were really good questions, some were off the wall, there were all sorts of place, it was hilarious. But there was some really powerful, strong things that came out of the interview and I thought between the humor and the gold, I thought it would be awesome to share with you. So I asked Dana if he’d be willing to let me share this with you guys. And luckily for me and for you and for everybody, he said yes. So I want to take you guys behind the scenes of a Decade in a Day call with Dana Derricks. Like I said, for those who don’t know Dana yet, you will appreciate and love his humor. He is a goat farmer, he’s speaking at Funnel Hacking Live, and some of these questions are amazing. With that said, we’re going to jump over to the interview and have some fun. What’s up Dana? Dana: Yo! What’s up? Russell: How’s it going man? Dana: Good, good. How are you guys doing? Russell: Amazing. (Other people greeting and cheering.) Dana: Oh this is going to be great. Russell: This better be great. Dana: Yeah, no pressure, right. Russell: We were betting before we turned it live, we’re like, “Is he gonna have any goats in the office with him?” Dana: Well, if it wasn’t so cold, I probably could have made that happen. Russell: That’s amazing. So obviously, I know you really well. Do you want to tell everyone who you are, who doesn’t know, and then we can have some fun? Dana: Yeah, we can do that. You’re in for a treat by the way. You’re going to like this, I’m glad I’m last. Whoever set that up, kudos to them. They deserve some treat, Mandy. Oh man. Hold your breath. Russell: Literal or no? Dana: You’ll be fine. You ready? Russell: I’m ready. Ready to rock and roll. Dana: Are we live? Russell: You’re live. Dana: I thought you had to press a button or something. Hey what’s up everybody? I’m a goat farmer, I don’t know technology very well. We’ve been live for 5 minutes, I’ve blown 5 minutes of my time. If you don’t know me, my name is Dana, I’m a goat farmer that Russell let into the inner circle. Also I write copy. And that’s about all. Russell: And books, a lot of books. Dana: Oh yeah. Russell: I got a few books from you this week and I was like, “Did you write both of these this week?” amazing. Dana: Kinda. Yeah did you get that package? Russell: Yeah, that was amazing. Thank you. Dana: Oh yeah, no, for sure. Russell: It was like, here’s the salad you can eat now and here’s what you can have after the BORT. Did you hear we changed it from BART to BORT? Dana: You did? Russell: A Big And Ripped Transformation and BORT is Big Or Ripped Transformation, so you get to choose. We’re calling Bart- Bort now. So feel free to do that, he’ll love it. Dana: Bort Miller, I love it. Yeah dude, the secret about sending stuff in the mail is it’s a lot harder to opt out of receiving mail in the mail, as opposed to like email. So that’s kind of the trick. Russell: During your presentation you should show that clip from Seinfeld where Kramer’s like, “I’m out.” And he breaks up his mailbox. Dana: That’s good. I like that. And you can tell when they do opt out because your stuff comes back to you. That’s awesome. Okay, so I guess I have something prepared. I don’t have slides or anything. I don’t really understand technology that well. So I have a list of just a bunch of questions I’m going to ask you, if that’s okay? Russell: Heck yeah. Dana: Alright cool. So there’s going to be three sections. The first is just business, the second is life, and the third is whatever questions we’re going to open it up to. You guys can ask me, feel free to pick my brain all you want. And then the audience can interject. I don’t know where they are, but if you guys can see anything that they’re saying, let’s do it. Cool? Russell: Let’s do it. Dana: Alright, I might, if you start talking too long, because I’ve got this spaced out just right, I’ll probably just cut you off, okay? Don’t worry about it, I’ll control the time. We’ll start off easy okay. What would you estimate to be the ROI on the spend of one goat over a twelve month period? Russell: For average humans or for Dana? Dana: You’d be surprised. I’d say average humans. Russell: For an average human it’s probably not very good. You can milk goats, right? Dana: You can. Russell: Can you eat goats? You probably don’t eat goats, do you? Dana: I wouldn’t advice it. Russell: You milk them, you shear them to get wool? Dana: No, they have weird fur. Russell: So just milk. Alright. Dana: Pretty much, milk and cheese. Russell: Milk and cheese. I bet you double the ROI. I bet you pay a thousand for a goat you get $2 grand back? Dana: That’s really close. That’s real good. Did John tell you that. Russell: No, that was off the top of my head. I had no idea. Dana: Nice. Good, good. You’re going to have goats soon. Russell: I have astro turf on my field now, they can’t… Dana: They’ll eat it, don’t worry. What would be the one thing you would suggest anybody starting out in business to focus on? Russell: Like the initial, when you’re first, first beginning? Dana: Yep. Russell: Probably focusing on developing yourself through serving other people, until you actually become amazing at whatever it is you want to sell in the future. Dana: So other people’s results instead of your own? Russell: Yeah. Go and serve people, get results, then that becomes the catalyst for everything else. Dana: Nice. What would be one thing you would suggest, anybody that’s already having success, to focus on? Russell: Is this going to become a book someday? This is like the chapters of a book. He’s pre-writing it, he’s making me write the book for him. Dana: Getting content one way or another. Russell: I can use this time however I want Russell. So people who are already having success, I would say the biggest thing is, a lot of times, especially with creators, we have success and then we get complacent for a while because I think initially when we start, a lot of times we are thinking about ourselves. And then you get to the point where it’s like all your needs are met. And most people sit complacent until they realize that this has nothing to do with them. Then you transition back to how do I serve people more? That’s when the next level of success happens. For me, business for me was selfish for a long time. I was trying to figure out how to make money, then my needs were met, and then more so, then it’s like, now what? It wasn’t until I really started focusing on the contribution side of it, then all the sudden, then it lights you back on fire again because you don’t….someone asked me yesterday, why don’t you sell for whatever? And I’m like, I don’t need money at this point in my life, this is about the contribution which is like, the exciting part. Money gets dumb. After you pay your house off, you’re like, well I don’t know what else to do. Dana: {Inaudible} Okay, awesome. Love it. What’s your biggest secret to building funnels? Russell: I don’t start building a funnel until I’ve found another funnel that I’m modeling, like a concept. So I’m always very clear of this is where we’re going. And number two I focus most of the effort or energy on the copy or the stories. Each page in a funnel is its own story that you’re telling, you’re crafting to get them to take the next action, and that’s where we focus. Anyone can do a funnel now with Clickfunnels. Woo hoo, I’ve got a funnel. It’s like understanding and mastering the story, even the short form story. I’ve got a headline and an opt in box, what’s the story I’m telling there? What’s the story on the landing page, and the upsell page? Basically taking the Perfect Webinar structure and breaking it down into, over a set of pages and orchestrating the whole thing together. So that’s where I spend most of my… Dana: Okay, would you also say it’s like, then connecting the dots too? It’s like taking them on a journey. Because people think you just throw them in the top and then they end up in the bottom. But you have to hold their hand throughout. Russell: Yeah, hold their hand and it’s like, when I’m doing a funnel I always think about if my mom was to come and buy this thing….like let’s say she bought this superman little thing. She’s like, “This is awesome.” And then she buys that and then she looks and “What should I get next?” and I’d be like, “Okay, let me explain to you why you need the next thing.” And it’s not like, I get people who all the time that ask me, their questions are like, “What price point should my upsell be?” and I’m like, that has nothing to do with anything. Price point is completely irrelevant. They just bought this, what’s the next logical thing that they need or they think they need to get the end result they’re trying to get. Whatever the price is, doesn’t really matter. It just doesn’t logically make sense. “I have this, now I need this, and this is where I’m going.” Dana: Dude, you’d be such a good goat farmer, because it’s like, they get out, they’re in the neighbor’s yard. So you gotta go over there to get over there, and you gotta bring just enough treats to get them back into your yard. So now they’re in your yard, which is an improvement, but they’re still not in the pen. Then you gotta get them over to the gate with another set of treats. Then you gotta keep them there long enough to get the gate open and then get them back into their actual pen. It’s the same thing as funnels, right? Russell: Goat funnel secrets. You should tell this, that’s actually really cool. That’s what you’re doing, that’s the name of the book we’re writing right now, isn’t it? Dana: Maybe. That’s awesome. What’s your biggest secret to traffic and getting people into your funnels? Russell: You know the answer to this already. But our biggest focus is Dream 100, at all levels. SEO’s Dream 100, PPC’s Dream 100, Facebook ads Dream 100. Dream 100 is affiliates. So it’s like, I’m a hyper, big believer in we’re not going to create traffic so who’s already congregating to that traffic, and then we Dream 100 them from every level, every aspect. We’re doing SEO stuff right now and it’s like, it’s funny because everyone’s like, “How do we get back links?” and it’s like Dream 100. “What do you mean?” I’m like, “Find who’s got the best blog with the best traffic, the best page rank, we Dream 100 them and get an article, and then that gets the dream link we want back and that solves all problems.” Dana: Awesome. What’s your biggest secret to converting traffic once they’re in your funnel? Russell: I always say that the world we live in right now, there’s two steps. The front end direct response, it’s all conversion to get somebody to do whatever to get them into our world, and then when they’re in our world I transition from, I don’t transition away from direct response, but I layer in branding with direct response and now it’s like personality and direct response principals together. Because the front end doesn’t, personality doesn’t get somebody to opt in, typically a new person. It’s like hard core curiosity, the right hook to get somebody in, and after they’re in, to keep them there, it’s like I instantly transform into brand and personality and things like that. The better connection I can build with people the faster, the easier the conversion is. So it’s like putting in all this time and effort into building trust, rapport and the conversions become easier and easier afterwards. Natalie Hodson did a video I think two nights ago. I watched it last night, a Facebook live. It’s her like, “Don’t buy my courses.” And then told her whole story about why she started doing this and how she, it told her whole story of how she came into this business and how much money she has to put in ads to sell a book and how she’s able to have…told that story and I told her, I voxed her like, “This is so good. Everyone who opts in, make them watch this first because they will instantly love you, and then they will buy everything else you have from that point forward.” But that would be horrible as a front end ad. Nobody would ever buy off it. But you convert them in, use that attention now to build a brand and a connection and then conversion becomes super easy. Now its just taking them on a story of your life and you’re offering them bits, the story of how you created that and how that story comes back to them. Dana: Love it. So with that too, that’s part of the strategy of entertaining and putting out, just letting them into your life. And I think it’s important for people to know too because ultimately, looking at the stats, that stuff you could argue is a waste of time, but at the end of the day it’s not because you’re doing exactly what you’re suggesting, that’s the overall strategy on that, isn’t it? Russell: 100% Because I could do an offer nowadays not to my own audience, if I try to drive traffic to it, it would never convert. But I do that same offer to my audience and we’ll do a million dollars in a webinar because it’s like, they love me, they trust me at this point, they have a connection with me, if I’m creating it, whereas with cold traffic it wouldn’t work.  It’s that, I don’t know, when I got started in this game it was 100% direct response, and there was like the branding guys who I always hated. And now it’s like, the mushing of those two worlds together. Direct response to get them in, and then the branding to build a connection and then the hand off is like, I think that’s the future of marketing. Those two schools of thought merging together into a super power. Dana: That’s awesome. I totally get that as a direct response guy. Okay, before I ask the next one, I have to just throw a disclaimer. I was not involved in all of the question selection. So, just putting that out there. Okay, so I wanted to clear the air and dispel the rumors. Is the CEO of Lowkey Pages actually running the company from prison? Russell: I think so. Dana: Okay, awesome. Russell: I’m pretty sure. Dana: Must be, with the branding it makes perfect sense. Russell: Did you know that the real CEO of the real Lowkey Pages got, anyway, I probably shouldn’t say it publically on video. Never mind. Dana: I didn’t do any back research on that one, that was a mistake. What’s your best advice for somebody deploying the Dream 100? Russell: I think it’s understanding tiers of levels. When I first got in this game I remember the people that I was trying to connect with were Joe Vitale, Mark Joyner, all these guys who were legends and I tried so hard to get their attention. No matter how creative I was it just kind of fell on deaf ears. I remember being offended and kind of upset at first, but I was, I don’t know, I was just kind of a nobody at the time. So after trying it out for a while and not having success I was like, this doesn’t work. Then I met a bunch of people that were kind of at my same level, or a little above me, but they were approachable. It was guys like Mike Filsaime, I don’t remember who it was back that, but a bunch of guys like that. We were all kind of the same level. So I started connecting with them with Dream 100, and because they weren’t up here, they were here, we became friends and we also crossed with each other, helping each other. It was cool. In a very short period of time, within a year, year and a half, all of our businesses came up to these other guys. At that point I started contacting these guys again and they were like, “Oh I see you everywhere man.” And I’m like, “I’ve been sending you stuff for years and you never respond back.” And then they answer your call and it’s like, “Yes, send a package to Tony Robins, that’s amazing. He’s probably not going to do a deal with any of us.” It took me 10 years to get Tony to finally promote something, 10 years of my life, and he was like, “Russell’s book is awesome, you should read it.” But 10 years it took. That’s awesome, but what’s better is look around at the market right now, and who’s kind of at your level and start connecting there. It may not be a billion dollar win over night, but a whole bunch of little wins add up and eventually you’re best friends with whoever you need to be up here, at that level. So I think that’s the biggest thing I would tell people. Dana: Man, I hope the inner circle is listening. Because that is a great lesson for all of us. There you go. How many times were you on the verge of completely giving up? Russell: Like how many days did that happen or like…. Dana: How many different times do you think? Russell: There were a lot, one happened early. It lasted a couple of weeks. Oh, I’m going to figure out the piece. After our company collapsed and I had to lay off 80 people overnight, it was everyday for two years. I would have quit if I didn’t have tax obligations to the IRS that would have thrown me in jail if I would have quit. I had some really good motivators. For two years I hated this business, and I did not like it even a little bit. Until we finally paid the IRS off, it took that strain off, where it’s like, now creativity could happen again and then it became fun again. But a lot of times, I sometimes nowadays even, it’s funny because some days it’s like, why are we doing this? I don’t know what causes that, but I think for me, whenever that does happen it’s like a selfish thing. When I’m thinking about myself more, but what’s cool is I’ll go to bed and sit there miserable and see my phone and I’ll see a bunch of voxers from people and every time I have a voxer and someone says something nice to me I star it. So I have a whole list of starred ones, so I’ll go and listen to those. And all these people who are like, I got one of yours in there, I got other people. It’s just like, you hear them, their gratitude for what you’re doing. Thank you for what you do…it’s like alright, that’s why we do this. Then we’re back into the game. So it’s less often nowadays for me, for sure. During the down times it’s tough and it happened a lot. Dana: That’s awesome. Okay, cool. And he’s definitely not lying folks, because when I was out there writing copy for you, I remember somebody did something stupid, I don’t know, somebody said something or whatever and you got like, “Geez, seriously?” You’re like, sarcastically I think you said, “I don’t want to be CEO anymore. I just want to create stuff.” And I’m sitting there in the corner, thinking, I glance over at Dave thinking, “I’ll be CEO.” Russell: I want your problems, Russell. That’s awesome. Dana: Yeah, so I’ll be on deck. Russell: I think about this a lot. My goal was never, 15 years ago when I started I wasn’t like, “Someday I’m going to be CEO of this big, huge company. I’ll be on video.” No, I just wanted to create. For me this is art. Why do I keep creating funnels? People are like, “Your company is doing great.” It’s the art for me. I’m an artist, this is how I do my art. I just love it. A lot of times I would much rather hang up the CEO hat and go back to the art of doing the thing. Dana: Yeah, it’s awesome. Looking back, what do you wish you would have done differently? Russell: From Clickfunnels as a whole, or business as a whole? Dana: Yeah, let’s look at business as a whole. Russell: I think, man, the first 10 years of my life I was running around trying to be all things to all people, and like 3 ½ - 4 years ago was the first time I was like, kind of set my flag in the ground what I was going to do. As far as Clickfunnels as a whole, looking back on it now, I would have started a software company way faster. That’s 100% sure. Of all the business models I’ve done, it’s the one I like the most. But I would have done it different too. I think if I was to start over from scratch, I would have just done Clickfunnels and that would have been it. We wouldn’t have had Backpack and Actionetics and all these other things. I would have made it simpler. I look at some people have software where it’s sticky but it’s simple. Like it does one thing. There’s power in that. You’re tech team can focus on making that one thing better and better and better as opposed to… Like right now, our biggest problem we’ve had until just recently is our tech team can focus on this part over here, and it’s like, “Okay, everyone move over here and over here.” So now we’re at a point where, as we did that the last time through, we are taking focus here. We hired a whole bunch of people to learn it while they were in there focusing and then we left, and now they’re focusing on making it better. The mistake is three years to get to that point. So I think I would have made simpler software that everyone could focus on one thing. That’s the thing too, with Clickfunnels I have so many messages I have to sell now, so many. I would have focused on just a simple message, simple tool, simple thing. Dana: I love that. Do you know what a Juicy Lucy is? The burger? Russell: No, sounds amazing. Dana: It is. It might be a Minnesota thing. So Brandon and Kaelin flew out for a Viking game and then we went and hung out for a while and they took me to this bar in this weird neighborhood, it was really sketchy, to get a Juicy Lucy. So it’s basically a burger with cheese in the middle, and it was this place called Matt’s Bar in St. Paul, Minnesota, it’s world famous. Anyway, we get in there, and I’m with Brandon and Kaelin, we get in line for the burger, it’s just a nasty looking place, really bad, but great burger, world famous. And what we noticed was, they served us the burger with fries and ketchup and a napkin in a crappy little basket, and then we had water. And then I think it was Kaelin, was like, “Hey, do you have ice?” And they’re like, “Nope.” A bar without ice. And I was like, someone else asked for something but then I asked, “Do you guys have a fork?” “Nope.” So they have Juicy Lucy’s and French fries, and they do that better than every other person and that’s why even despite all their shortcomings they’re the best. So it’s a good a lesson, I think, for everybody. Alright, lightening the mood a bit. Did you know that James P. Friell is actually a really nice guy, deep down? Russell: He’s actually a nice guy, deep down. Dana: He is. Russell: I see glimpses of that, I think it’s possible. Dana: Is he there? Where is he? He has the day off. Russell: Did he leave for the day? Woman: I don’t know. His computer’s here, I don’t know where he is. Russell: His computer’s here. We’ll make fun of him when he gets back. Dana: Of course he’s probably skipped out early. Okay, what are you glad you did and wouldn’t change, business wise? Russell: Biggest thing I’m glad I did, and this took me 12 years before I did it, was actually bringing in partners. I was first 12 years like, “No, I’m Russell. I’m the guy who started this business, blah, blah, blah.” So because of that, you could hire people, but that’s it. Clickfunnels came around, Todd and I sat down and brainstormed the whole thing with Clickfunnels and he’s like, “Hey, I’m only going to do this if we can be partners instead of like an employee.” And I was just like, ugh. And the prideful Russell was like, “No, I’m not…” but then I was like, witnessing my whole business crashing, I’d been humbled a lot. I was like, “You know what, let’s do it.” And it transformed everything. So grateful for that, and I think if I was ever to start a company again, I think my first step before everything, would be assembling my Avengers team, or my Justice League team, whatever you want to call it, before it got started. I need the best in the world of these 5 spots. I gotta identify, here’s the 5 or 6 people, the things we need and I’d go and spend the first year just recruiting those people and getting them in place, then create the thing. Instead of starting as an entrepreneur and hiring employee one and employee two, it’s so much faster just to go the other way around. Dana: Awesome. What’s the craziest thing you’ve ever sent in the mail? Russell: Physical mail? Dana: Mmmhmm Russell: I don’t have mine, but I’m going to tell you my friends story because it’s the craziest ever. Dana: I think I know it but.. Russell: Did I tell you this already? So my friend, he pooped in a box and then he mailed it, and apparently it’s a federal offense to send poop. He did it at college and the college mail room got it and smelled it, and he actually got expelled from Brigham Young University, but it never went through the mail. But apparently it’s a federal offense to mail poop. Dana: Wow, so it got intercepted before it departed from BYU campus? Russell: It could have been bad. Dana: Wow. Okay, so I don’t recommend that. Russell: I think the weirdest thing I’ve ever mailed, not mailed but it was like pizza, I’ve done this a lot of times, called up a pizza delivery place wherever a guys at and deliver like 10 pizzas at once. Stuff like that. Dana: yeah, just to get people’s attention. Russell: Yeah, it works good. Dana: Love it. What’s something that having a team relieves you from? Russell: It lets me, like right now with Clickfunnels people ask me, “How do you keep up with the software?” I’m like, I don’t. I use it and I complain and that’s all I do. And that team does everything. So I don’t have to worry about that. I only have to focus on the part I like, which is the marketing. And that’s all I have to, I get to stay within my unique ability and not the blend of all other things. And I think that’s the key of, in fact, James P. Friell if he were here, he’d quote some famous old guy who said something that was really cool. But the division of labor, something, something. There’s the quote, he can find it for us. Basically letting me do my unique ability and having every other person do their unique ability as opposed to other things. Mandy, when she started coaching with us, it was really cool. She gets to focus on the coaching of it. At first I was like, “Okay and then do this and this and this.” And then she struggled. The administration of it wasn’t very good. Melanie is amazing at administration, how about Melanie help Mandy, and now it runs awesome. And Melanie is the most amazing person at that in the world. So it’s like, everyone has a good and unique ability, whereas I used to try to bring someone in a role and give them 30 things to do, because I thought they should all be able to 30 things. When they did one thing with their unique ability and everything else just sucked. I did a podcast on this a little while ago, but I think the reason is because as entrepreneurs, we start the business initially and we have to do all 30 things, and we suck at most of them, but because we have so much brute force, we have success. And then we hire people, expect them to do 30 things like we did, and that’s the wrong way to look at it. You bring someone to do the one thing and be the best at that. They take that piece away from you and do it a million times better and then you can keep doing that. That’s what gives me the ability to do that, just focus on my unique ability and just nothing else. Dana: Love it. I reserved 30 second timeslot for you to give a shameless plug to something you’d like to sell, starting now. Russell: Hey everybody, welcome to the pitch section of the Decade in the Day. I would really like to sell, I have nothing else to sell these guys. I kind of want to do….I got nothing man, I don’t even know. Oh I know what we can do! Okay, you see this book, it’s pretty cool. This book I’m not going to sell, but we just wrote a book called Network Marketing Secrets for MLMer’s, and it’s exactly this thin and it’s got cartoons like this in it. It’s so awesome. So that’s going to go live in like a week and a half, so you guys should go buy that, even if you’re not in network marketing. Just to support me and to funnel hack me. Dana: Awesome, love it. How do they get it? Is there even a URL yet? Russell: There will be networkmarketingsecrets.com. Dana: go there. Okay, dude that was actually really good off the cusp like that. Well done. I should have given you a heads up. Okay, now I have reserved myself 30 seconds for a shameless plug. Mine’s more rehearsed. Go. So all the time, people ask me, literally all the time, “Dana, how do you sell a book for $2,000 when everybody else sells them for $20 bucks? How do you charge $20 grand for something that other people charge $500 for? How do you make so much money as a goat farmer with only 4 goats in your herd?” and I’m just like, dude, it’s simple. It’s the Dream 100. If you haven’t had a chance, or if you don’t know what the Dream 100 is, go get Chet Holmes Ultimate Sales Machine book. If you do and you’re ready to just go hog wild in it and explode your business, then go get the Dream 100 book. Russell: Where do you get the Dream 100 book, Dana? Dana: Dream100.com. Okay, cool. Russell: What’s the price on it, is it still….? Dana: It’s $2 grand, well, unless you find the secret link where you can get it free plus shipping. But yeah… Russell: Is the secret link dream100.com? Dana: forward slash free. Don’t share it. Oh boy. What’s the biggest domino you tip over every day? Russell: Dang, these are good questions. Every day? For me now, it’s making sure that my team all has what they need to get done what they’re doing.  I look into my role now, it’s less of me doing things and more of me coaching people who are doing things. Making sure that everyone has the ability to run in the morning, so they’re not waiting on the direction. You know what I mean? And we have a lot of east coast people, so before I go to bed at night, I try to make sure east coast people have what they have, so when they wake up 2 hours before I do, they can start running. That’s the biggest thing. Dana: Awesome, that’s great. I heard the internet speed in Boise is capped at 1.5 Megabits per second. Is that really true? If so, how can such a successful tech company be headquartered there? Russell: Is that true, Melanie? Do you know? Melanie: I have no idea. Russell: I have no idea. We do get angry though, often at it. Is that really true? Dana: I have no idea. I’m in a much more rural area, so I doubt it. I just published my 5th earth shattering book for entrepreneurs and sellers, should I keep writing more and put them on the shelf for a while to collect dust and do nothing at all with, the hundreds of hours invested in them, or start promoting and sell them? That’s a jab at myself because you called me out on the last mastermind. Russell: No I think, what’s funny though, at the last mastermind is where I had my big epiphany too, of focusing on the value ladder, and then all our creativity should be focused on the front end of the value ladder, bringing people in. I spent almost every day since then, trying to get the rest of my value ladder in place. I’ve killed two businesses that both made over a million dollars a year, because they didn’t fit in the value ladder. So I took that to heart and hopefully you have as well. But I think that’s it. You can keep creating stuff, but as long as there’s the back end to support it. Dana: Love it. The only other time I went to Orlando Florida, my fiancé ended up coming home pregnant. Should we put out a PSA to warn couples traveling there for Funnel Hacking Live that there’s something in the air down there? Woman: Did you hear Melanie’s laugh? Russell: Melanie’s dying over there. Are we doing a wedding when we get down there this time too, so it could be, the first time you got pregnant, the second time you got married? Dana: I got people lobbying for it right now. It’s going to become a hashtag, yeah. Okay, I’m just going to skip to the good ones. I read about a story about a farmer who was visiting your house, that tripped into your pool, in the pitch black, and fell flat out on your pool cover and nearly ripped it apart, and scared all of your children in the process. Is that true? Russell: It is so true. I wish the camera would have been rolling for that, because it was amazing. We have a pool color that’s the same color as the cement around it, and it was dark outside. So Dana goes and walks right to the pool cover and it’s like woosh. And my kids are like, “No!” it was amazing. Dana: Oh man. Okay, finishing up here. Will you sell me your domain name Dream100secrets.com please, you’re not even using it. Russell: Do I own that one? Dana: Yeah, you’re not using it though. I could use it. Russell: I might be up for that. Definite maybe, definite maybe. Dana: Just think about it. Okay, well I’ve exhausted all the good ones. Unless there’s any good ones in the chat. Russell: Did we check the chat? I have no idea. Woman: Everyone’s going crazy. Russell: Everyone’s just laughing at you. Woman: “Loving this.” “This is amazing.” “This is gorgeous.” Russell: No good questions. Dana: That’s alright, unless you have anything for me? Russell: Let me think. When are you launching the super funnel? Actually, did I tell you what we called it inside our office now, for us? Dana: This is going to be good. Russell: Which board is it on? There it is. This is called Project Mother Funnel. This is our Mother Funnel that sends people all the way through our value ladder in the shortest period of time possible, in the most exciting way possible. AKA, Project Mother Funnel. My question for you, with your new value ladder and multiple front ends, when is your Project Mother Funnel all going live? I’m holding you accountable. We gotta cover up that wall. Dana: I know, I wish I could show you through that wall. It’s still there. I’m going to say ASAP, how’s that. Russell: I love it. I’m getting this done by my birthday, March 8th. It’s my birthday present to myself. Can you get yours done by March 8th? Dana: I’ll do it. And what’s the bet then? Who has to do what? Woman: That’s how you motivate Dana. It’s not money. Russell: That’s good. Let’s see, I has to do with wedding or goats or both. Dana: Yep. Dave: If you lose, Dana, you get married at Funnel Hacking Live. Russell: He wants that though. Dana: I actually do. Russell: They want a beach wedding. So on the beach we could do it. Dana: We could bring the beach to us. Russell: I have sand, there’s sand in Boise. We could bring it in the room. It’d be a pain but it’d be worth it. Dana: How about you have to bring a goat to your office for a day, if you don’t hit yours. And I have to sleep with my goats for a night. Dave: You’d enjoy that though… Russell: Yeah, there’s different levels of that. Dana: There we go…I have to….Don’t knock it until you try it guys, geez. Russell: How about this, if you get the whole thing live by my birthday I may be willing to sell you Dream100secrets.com, if not I’m launching a competitor product, I’m going to take you out. Dana: Geez. This is going to be a nasty smear campaign. Okay, deal. I take the deal. Russell: That’s awesome. Dana: What happens if you don’t get it by March 8t? Woman: Oh, he will. Russell: Goat for a day, I’m in on that. Dana: Okay, that’d be actually a good episode. Alright, thank you guys. I appreciate you. Russell: Thank you Dana, you’re awesome, man. Have a good weekend.

Two presentations that I gave, where I thought that no one was listening, that literally changed a few people’s world. On today’s episode Russell talks about being able to make a difference even when he thought something seemed like a waste of time. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode: Why Alex Hermosi heard Russell’s message, but didn’t do anything about if for a year. How well Alex has been able to do with his business despite having tiny goals. And why speaking to only 15 people at Affiliate Summit actually turned out to be a good thing. So listen here to find out why it’s important to keep putting your message out there, even if you think no one is listening. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I got something cool to share with you today. Hey everyone, so first off, I want to share something that’s a little different than normal. We’ve been promoting Funnel Hacking Live, we’re getting close to selling out tickets so I thought it’d be fun to do Facebook Lives with all different speakers. So today I did two Facebook Lives, one was with Alex and Layla Harmosi, and then Myron Golden, who are amazing people. Then tonight I did one Kaelin Polin and also with Natalie Hodson. It’s just been really fun to talk to the speakers and get them excited, but what they’re talking about is getting everyone else excited as well. During one of the Facebook Lives today, we had a really cool thing come out of it. Alex Harmosi, some of you guys may know Alex because he spoke, this is his second Funnel Hacking Live he’s spoken at, he and his wife are going to be speaking at this one. But what’s interesting is at the end of it I was asking, “Why do you think people should come to Funnel Hacking Live?” and he was just like, he said, I think it was like 3 or 4 years ago he went to an event, it wasn’t my event, it was Traffic and Conversion actually, Ryan Deiss’ event. He was at the event and I was speaking at the event. He told me this story later, so I’m kind of filling in the back story. He didn’t talk about this but I’m filling in the back story for you guys so it makes sense. At this event, I had an hour to speak and they wouldn’t let me pitch anything, which is painful for me, as someone who loves to sell things, because I feel like selling is actually how we change people’s lives. So I get on stage and do my entire Funnel Hacks presentation and I get to where I transition to my close and I’m like, “Well, that’s all I got. See you guys.” And I had to end. What I didn’t know at the time was Alex was sitting out there in the audience. And Alex at the time had one or two gyms, he was doing alright but not loving it. He told me, “I was sitting in the audience and it was just like, I want to do that. Whatever he just talked about, I want to do that.” But I didn’t sell anything, so he couldn’t buy anything. So it ended. The event happened and he went back home. He said, I can’t remember exactly, 6 months, a year later or something like that, he was sitting there at a time when he was just not super excited with what he was doing and  he was like, “That dude I heard speak at T and C, what was his name again? Russell Brunson.” And he didn’t know, he had never bought any of my products or services, he just Googled Russell Brunson coaching, or something like that. He was like, “Maybe I could hire him to be a coach or something, I don’t know.” So he Googled that and found my Inner Circle page, applied for Inner Circle, signed up for it. It’s funny, I had my very first call with him. And on my first call, he’s telling me he’s got these two or three gyms and Alex, if you talk to him, he’s super charismatic, dude’s done 5,000 one on one face to face sales in his lifetime. He’s just a great salesperson. But I’m doing this call with him. When people join the Inner Circle, I call it a decade in a day, so I try to cram a decade of my life into a day with them. And I want to shortcut their success, so I have an hour long call with them. So I’m doing this call and he tells me on the call, “you know my goal, if I can make 20 grand a month online, that would dramatically change my life.” And I kind of started, I feel bad, but I started laughing at him. And he’s like, “What?” and I’m like, “Dude, 20 grand a month?” Just hearing him talk I’m like, “You have so, you’re like, your skill is so high, you’re in a level two or three opportunity with a level ten skill. If we just shift some things….20 grand, we’ll try to do that tomorrow and let’s increase from there.” And it was fun because on today’s Facebook Live, he was talking about the business right now, they’re doing a million and a half recurring, off his business they launched 8 months ago. It’s crazy. They’re trying to hit the 8 figure club before Funnel Hacking Live. So that basically means, they made 10 million dollars in 7 ½ - 8 months and it’s interesting. So I share that because first off, it’s inspiring, second off, it’s always fun to tease Alex about his huge goals he had initially. But most importantly I want to share this for you guys. Because how many times do we go and do things, that on the outside don’t seem fruitful. Like I spoke at T and C, I spoke in front of these people, I shared my message, I didn’t get to sell anything, it ended and then it’s like, you leave and I don’t know if that helped. How many times do we do a Facebook Live and we get 30 people who see it? Or you do a YouTube video and you get like 120 people to watch it? You look at those things, sometimes we look at those stats and see other videos that get like a million views and things like that. And we see ours and we’re like, “Oh, only 120 people saw that. What a waste of time, I shouldn’t have been doing that. I should have been focusing on something else.” But what we don’t realize is that, that was 120 people that heard your message and who knows who those people are? One of them could have been the Alex Hermosi, who was sitting in the audience, heard your message, it resonated with him, he didn’t do anything. And then a year later, in a time when he’s probably not happy and not completely fulfilled, it’s like, “What was that dude again? What was his name?” and they start Googling and they find you. And then fast forward a little bit, they’re doing ten million dollars in sales. Think of that for your business, how many times do you do a Facebook Live and you feel bummed because you didn’t reach enough people? But those little numbers, 1 person, 2 people, 20, 50, 100, those are people. If I’m in my Inner Circle room right now, this holds I think about 75 seats, for those who are seeing the video version. 75 seats, that’s 75 people. When I do my Inner Circle, there’s 75 people, 75 people is a lot of people. And everyone in this room paid 25 grand to be there, it’s a lot of money. It’s little but it’s 75 people. And if I’m sharing my message in this group, I’m not depressed, “Oh, only 75 people  heard it.” 75 people heard it, each of these people are going to go and transform the world with it because it’s so cool. So I don’t want you guys getting discouraged when you do a video or Facebook Live or a podcast, and only 100 people heard it. Realize that you’re planting seeds and you’re doing these things out there and you never know who’s going to hear it and resonate with it. And it might not be immediately, but Alex, a year later, because of something I said at an event, and I didn’t meet him, I didn’t bump into him. I just did my thing and I left, I didn’t know if it helped. And a year later it was the seed that we planted that got him to Google the name, make the phone call, get in the program, and not only make this money for him, but look how many people’s lives he’s affecting. So I just wanted to share that because for me it was one of those round robin things, where it came back to the beginning. It’s just like, that is cool. I’m so glad I went to T and C and I spoke and didn’t sell anything, didn’t make any money. It’s something that seemed like kind of a waste of time afterwards, I’m so glad I did it. Something similar happened last year, I went to Affiliate Summit. In fact, I did, I feel bad, I did a podcast talking about how their business model was the worst business model I’ve ever seen, and I still stand behind that. But I feel kind of bad about it, anyway, you can rewind that podcast and listen to it. But what’s interesting is I don’t usually go to speak at events unless there’s a minimum of a thousand people in the room, or else it’s just not worth the time. Next month we’re speaking at Grant Cardone’s event, which is supposed to have 8500 people at it. For me, just for my time, it’s tough. But Affiliate Summit was one of the first events I ever went to, so I was like, “I want to go and speak.” And I get to this event and they have guards at the door and the attendees have to pay extra to actually come into your room. So I’m doing my keynote speech in this room and there’s like 15 people. And I’m like, “Are you kidding me? I spent all this time and money.” Someone asked for one on one consulting today and I quoted them 250 grand a day. Because that’s what it would take for me to break away a day from my office to be able to do it. So I spent the travel time there, the time there, and the time back. If I was to bill that out we’re looking at half a million dollars or more to do that. And I’m sitting in a room with 15 people. I was just angry because I’m like, “Dude, are you serious? 15 people?” So I shared my message and then it got done. A bunch of people came and shook my hand and then I left, went out to eat with my team that was there, then I flew home annoyed that I wasted my time at this event. But what I didn’t realize was sitting at the event was someone who’s become a dear friend. Her name is Alison Prince. Alison was at this event and she’s like, and I didn’t know this until like 2 weeks later. She calls our office and she’s like, “I was at Affiliate Summit, I heard Russell speak, he was the only speaker onstage who wasn’t drunk. I was resonated with that, someone who doesn’t drink and because of that, I want to join the coaching program.” And this was literally 2 days before the very first FHAT event we ever did, and Derrick’s on the phone, like “okay.” And she has 3 multimillion dollar businesses, so she’s killing it but she wanted to learn this side of the business we do, funnels and stuff. So she signed up and jumped in her car and drove here and showed up the morning of the event. I knew everyone else who was coming because we invited Inner Circle members, and I was like, “I don’t know who you are.” And she’s like, “I just joined yesterday. I was at Affiliate Summit last week, you were the only speaker who wasn’t drunk so that’s why I’m here now.” I was like, “Whoa.” And then last night, I don’t have my phone here with me, dang it. Last night she messaged me, it’s been 8 months, no, 10 months, 10 ½ - 11 something like that. Yeah, it was February she came and now we’re in January. So it’s been 11 months and she messaged me yesterday, she said, “Guess what Russell?” I said, “What?” she said, “I just sold my thousandth course.” She sells this course for a thousand dollars, that means she made a million dollars. She said, “This is the fastest I’ve ever gone from 0 to a million dollars in any of my companies ever. I just joined the Two Comma Club.” She’s freaking out, and by the way Alison is speaking at Funnel Hacking Live. And I heard that and I’m just thinking, man, I’m so grateful I went to Affiliate Summit because if I wouldn’t have, Alison, one of those 15 people who was sitting in the room, wouldn’t have heard my message, she wouldn’t have come. I look at the lives she’s transformed now because of it. So I just want to share that with you. I don’t know where to go other than, keep doing what you’re doing even if it feels like it’s not making an impact at the time. 15 people saw that video, that presentation that I gave. 15 people saw it, but Alison saw it. And because of that, it’s transformed her life and it’s transformed a thousand of her customers’ lives now and it’s going to continue that, moving forward. She’s speaking at Funnel Hacking Live, so those of you guys who are coming, she’s going to have a chance to transform your life as well. Alex and Layla are going to be there, they’re going to transform your life. It’s just a really cool thing. So don’t get bummed out if nobody seems like they’re listening right now. It doesn’t matter. You’re sowing seeds, you’re doing what you love, you’re putting your message out there. Just keep doing it. Do it with faith, knowing if you plant enough seeds the right people will come back. Your sheep will hear your voice and they will come to you. That’s a scriptural, doctrinal principal, that Christ taught. It’s the same thing for you. Put your message out there and your sheep will hear your voice and they will come to you. And then you’ll have an impact on them, that you can have, and that’s what’s so exciting. So don’t stop, keep publishing, keep putting out there, even if it feels like no one’s listening, because you never know who is actually listening. So with that said, I’m going back in, we’re about to launch a funnel, I gotta go. I just thought the lights looked cool on the video and wanted to share that with you guys. So I appreciate you all, have an amazing day and we’ll talk to you guys soon. Bye. And yes, that is Batman, for those who are watching, in the background.

When it comes the vulnerability entrepreneurs are getting it wrong. We are taught "never let them see you sweat" or "fake it until you make it" Both of which will keep you start and stop you from getting what you need. Even worse they will stop you from one of the most important entrepreneurial assets that you can create, human connection. As an entrepreneur connection to your tribe, to the market at large, and your team will help you create momentum. Lack of connection will make it difficult for you to create momentum and long-term success. This week I was reminded by Natalie Hodson that vulnerability is the ultimate human connector.

The power of vulnerability, acting with urgency, and a whole lot more… On this episode Russell gives some of the awesome highlights from the latest set of Inner Circle mastermind meetings. Here are some interesting things to listen for in this episode: How everyone in the Inner Circle group has been able to grow together making $30-50 grand a month last round to making $100-200 grand this round. Why it’s important to celebrate other’s success in order for them to celebrate yours. And what makes being vulnerable so powerful with your audience. So listen here to hear these and many other highlights from the inner circle mastermind meetings. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets. This is the day after the mastermind and I’ve got a whole bunch of secrets to share with you guys. Alright everyone, inner circle mastermind just ended. We have been going, basically I’ve had 8 days of inner circle mastermind meetings with a week break. So group one came Monday, Tuesday. It was a group of 25 entrepreneurs. Then Wednesday, Thursday. Then a week off. Then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So 4 groups of 100, 4 groups of 25 equals 100 entrepreneurs, they’re my inner circle. It’s a cool group because its interesting watching how everybody within this group, year after year, everyone keeps growing together. People first came in a while ago and everyone was trying to get their businesses launched and now it’s getting to the point where they’re doing, last set of meetings everyone was doing 30-50 grand a month. Now at this set of meetings everyone’s doing 100-200 grand a month. Everyone together as a group keeps leveling up. We’ve had a couple of members breaking the million dollars a month mark and now everyone else, that’s what they’re gunning for. It’s just so inspiring and so cool to watch what’s happening. The businesses and industries are so different. We have everyone from, I’m trying to find the book right now. Dr. Wiebold, Pamela Wiebold who is helping doctors who commit suicide, helping to not commit suicide and literally saving lives, to people teaching business to people teaching dentists, everything in between. So many just amazing people. In fact, I’ve got from this meeting, those who are watching the video, these are my two notebooks, one got completely filled up and one got half filled up. That’s a lot for one set of meetings. Anyway, it’s amazing. Obviously I can’t share everything, because it would take 8 days. But there were so many cool things. So I’m just going to kind of share a couple things as I’m flipping through here. Maybe over the next few weeks I’ll share other cool thoughts and ideas. So as I’m flipping through my pages, just some things I jotted down that were so, so powerful. One of them was from Alison Prince, she was talking about through her course that she celebrates the people in her community. She said when she wins they celebrate me, because I celebrate them. I thought, how cool is that? As you’re finding more success, you’ll probably notice this, people around you, you think everybody would be happy for you, but instead it’s usually the opposite where they’re not happy and there’s this weird thing under where you’re like, “you should be happy for me. I’m having success.” But when you’re depressed, everyone’s like “Oh me too.” And everyone loves you, but when you have success usually people aren’t happy and it’s weird. So it’s kind of cool within your community as you celebrate their success, they celebrate yours. So it gives you a spot to be able to talk about your wins and get people to celebrate with you. So that’s kind of fun. What else? So many cool things. One thing from Alex and Layla, they were talking about in their ads, that they actually say what they’re really feeling. Most of us who write ads, we’re trying to be all postured like, “number one top secret blah, blah, blah.” And it was cool, what they talked about in their ads. They literally in their ads say, “Hey I feel like a cheesy person writing an ad, but I need to get this message out to you. I’m not going to….You’re probably thinking this right now and I want to make sure that you…..” Just kind of breaking down those barriers in the ad. Because it’s an ad and people know it’s an ad, so instead of being an ad, actually having fun with it. If you saw what their acquisition costs were, it works really, really good. Another cooll thing, a lot of times we talk about in our company, setting KPI’s, Key Performance Indicators and things like that, but one thing that Alex Charfen said, “if you look at a sports team, there’s two things they all have. If you ask a football team, ‘what are your goals?’ ‘My goal is to win the superbowl and be in the Hall of Fame.’ There’s a superbowl goal, which is like their goal. Then there’s the legacy goal, which is the Hall of Fame.” So it’s cool, we talked about for a company what is your superbowl goal? And what’s your Hall of Fame goal? And also within your organization, with working with you team members, what’s their superbowl, what’s a win for your company? Do they know what it is? I don’t think my team knows. I haven’t really sketched, “This is our goal. This is how we get to the superbowl.” It hasn’t ever been defined, this is the thing, this is how we get in the hall of fame. And I think now that that’s a thing in my head, I’m so excited to figure out what’s our company’s superbowl goal and what’s our hall of fame goal? When you have those it becomes more clear, more tangible. David Derricks awesome, talking about a bunch of stuff. One thing is he just wrote a new book called the Dream 100, which is a big concept none of us ever…I talk about it all the time and nobody ever does it. And my quote at the top says this is the foundation for our entire company. If you’re not doing Dream 100 yet, it’s time to start. Go back and listen to any of my stuff on Dream 100 but it’s how we figured out what our market was, what our blue ocean was. How we figured out where our customers…..everything we’ve done was based on the Dream 100 concept. There’s so many good things here. I don’t even know where to… Oh this is a good one. So Brian Bowman, such a stud. He had a really cool, emotional presentation. He talked about how he was working hard and moving forward and getting things done. And he had a coach who was one of Garret White’s coaches, one of the Warrior Week coaches. He asked, “What’s your target?” and he’s like, “This is what I’m going for.” And then he asked him, “Are you operating with a sense of urgency?” And Brian, while he’d been working hard and hustling and all these kinds of things, he’s like, “Am I operating with a sense of urgency?” And I don’t have permission to tell his story behind what and how, but as soon as he had that thought in his mind, everything shifted for him. He went and instead of moving things toward a goal he was like, “I need to operate with a sense of urgency.” And I think how many times for us we’re like, “Yeah, we’re moving forward, moving towards things. I’m going to launch my product someday. I’m going to write my book. I’m blah, blah, blah.” Whatever our thing is, but it’s like that’s good, but are you operating with a sense of urgency? Is this doing…when is this….this needs to be urgent. If it’s not urgent, you’re never going to do it. So are you operating with a sense of urgency? That was just so powerful. How many times do we not do that? How many times are we just kind of wandering, doing our thing, and it’s not urgent. Because of that days turn into weeks, weeks turn into months, months turn into years and sometimes we never get it accomplished. I think one of the big reasons we’ve had so much success with Clickfunnels is because we do operate with a sense of urgency. I’m always stressing out, which maybe is to my downfall, it’s what makes me tired all the time. I just think it’s interesting, operating with a sense of urgency, having that as a thing we are thinking through all the time. So many good things. What else, what else? Natalie Hodson talking about the power of vulnerability. How vulnerability is the ultimate human connector. So many of us, we try to be postured and perfect and that’s why, because we’re trying to get connection, we think people want to see us perfect and instead it actually pushes people away. How vulnerability is the big secret. It was interesting, Natalie just joined the inner circle. But she came to our FHAT event in February, five or 6 months ago and she was telling this story. She was creating, she’s in the weight loss, fitness market, and she was working out live on Live streaming or Facebook Live or whatever, she did a work out. She’s a mom, she has two kids and during her workout she wet herself, on camera, live in front of the entire world and how embarrassing it was. And obviously that’s an embarrassing thing and most people would never talk about that again, they would leave the video, they would run away from it. But instead she realized that, “If I’m struggling with this, I bet other people probably are too. Maybe I can help them.” And she found a business partner or a content person, who that’s what they specialize in. Helping women to strengthen their pelvic floor so they don’t have those issues. And she created a $37 dollar book teaching the process and she put it out there and on a sales page she’s got pictures of her on a live stream with peed pants in front of the entire world. And she talked about this problem that she has and she knows all these other women have. Anyway, from February until now she sold 50,000 copies of a $37 book. So over a million dollars in sales. And think about how many women’s lives she’s been able to affect because she didn’t posture herself and come off perfect all the time, because she was willing to be vulnerable. It’s just such a powerful thing. I look at the times in my life when I’ve gotten real connection with my audience, it’s not when I’ve been sharing the highlight reel, like we like to do. I think what’s good to do is sometimes to touch on the high reel. “Hey, I’m awesome. Just want to make sure you know this, but let me tell you the truth.” And then break it down. And that has been a theme. In fact, the third inner circle group, I think I’ve never seen so many tears in a mastermind group in my life. The girls were crying, the men were crying, everybody was crying. But because people actually got vulnerable and shared and that’s been a big theme throughout the inner circle. You go to other masterminds and people are sharing the highlight reel and bragging about stuff, where with us everyone has to share, “Here’s what we’re doing awesome, but let me get vulnerable and share with you what’s actually happening.” And then we work at that level. It’s different and interesting and causes real actual change. Anyway, it was amazing. I wish I could take all of you guys along on these journeys. But a lot of our inner circle members are going to be speaking at Funnel Hacking Live. The sales page for Funnel Hacking Live will be going live next week, it’s at funnelhackinglive.com and you’ll have a chance to hear Natalie talk about the power of vulnerability, a lot of these other people I pick are speakers for the most part, inner circle members. So I have a chance to see them present here in my office a couple of times a year. I get to know them intimately, I understand their business, I understand where it fits with what I want to share with our audience. So a lot of them will be speaking at this. So if you don’t have tickets yet, when we go live next week, get them. We pre-sold out over a thousand tickets, I think we have another, I don’t know how many left. Not a lot. So if you want to be there, you know you need to be there and you do, now is the time. Funnelhackinglive.com, get on the waiting list and then wait. My guess is probably Tuesday it will go live. So by the time you hear this, it may be live. But make the effort to be there. It’ll be worth it, I promise you, it will change your life forever. It’s going to be a lot of fun. So yeah, that’s basically the best spot to get the actual highlights, at Funnel Hacking Live. Anyway, with that said, appreciate you. Thanks so much for listening in today to the podcast, and we’ll talk to you guys again soon. Bye.

The power of vulnerability, acting with urgency, and a whole lot more… On this episode Russell gives some of the awesome highlights from the latest set of Inner Circle mastermind meetings. Here are some interesting things to listen for in this episode: How everyone in the Inner Circle group has been able to grow together making $30-50 grand a month last round to making $100-200 grand this round. Why it’s important to celebrate other’s success in order for them to celebrate yours. And what makes being vulnerable so powerful with your audience. So listen here to hear these and many other highlights from the inner circle mastermind meetings. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets. This is the day after the mastermind and I’ve got a whole bunch of secrets to share with you guys. Alright everyone, inner circle mastermind just ended. We have been going, basically I’ve had 8 days of inner circle mastermind meetings with a week break. So group one came Monday, Tuesday. It was a group of 25 entrepreneurs. Then Wednesday, Thursday. Then a week off. Then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So 4 groups of 100, 4 groups of 25 equals 100 entrepreneurs, they’re my inner circle. It’s a cool group because its interesting watching how everybody within this group, year after year, everyone keeps growing together. People first came in a while ago and everyone was trying to get their businesses launched and now it’s getting to the point where they’re doing, last set of meetings everyone was doing 30-50 grand a month. Now at this set of meetings everyone’s doing 100-200 grand a month. Everyone together as a group keeps leveling up. We’ve had a couple of members breaking the million dollars a month mark and now everyone else, that’s what they’re gunning for. It’s just so inspiring and so cool to watch what’s happening. The businesses and industries are so different. We have everyone from, I’m trying to find the book right now. Dr. Wiebold, Pamela Wiebold who is helping doctors who commit suicide, helping to not commit suicide and literally saving lives, to people teaching business to people teaching dentists, everything in between. So many just amazing people. In fact, I’ve got from this meeting, those who are watching the video, these are my two notebooks, one got completely filled up and one got half filled up. That’s a lot for one set of meetings. Anyway, it’s amazing. Obviously I can’t share everything, because it would take 8 days. But there were so many cool things. So I’m just going to kind of share a couple things as I’m flipping through here. Maybe over the next few weeks I’ll share other cool thoughts and ideas. So as I’m flipping through my pages, just some things I jotted down that were so, so powerful. One of them was from Alison Prince, she was talking about through her course that she celebrates the people in her community. She said when she wins they celebrate me, because I celebrate them. I thought, how cool is that? As you’re finding more success, you’ll probably notice this, people around you, you think everybody would be happy for you, but instead it’s usually the opposite where they’re not happy and there’s this weird thing under where you’re like, “you should be happy for me. I’m having success.” But when you’re depressed, everyone’s like “Oh me too.” And everyone loves you, but when you have success usually people aren’t happy and it’s weird. So it’s kind of cool within your community as you celebrate their success, they celebrate yours. So it gives you a spot to be able to talk about your wins and get people to celebrate with you. So that’s kind of fun. What else? So many cool things. One thing from Alex and Layla, they were talking about in their ads, that they actually say what they’re really feeling. Most of us who write ads, we’re trying to be all postured like, “number one top secret blah, blah, blah.” And it was cool, what they talked about in their ads. They literally in their ads say, “Hey I feel like a cheesy person writing an ad, but I need to get this message out to you. I’m not going to….You’re probably thinking this right now and I want to make sure that you…..” Just kind of breaking down those barriers in the ad. Because it’s an ad and people know it’s an ad, so instead of being an ad, actually having fun with it. If you saw what their acquisition costs were, it works really, really good. Another cooll thing, a lot of times we talk about in our company, setting KPI’s, Key Performance Indicators and things like that, but one thing that Alex Charfen said, “if you look at a sports team, there’s two things they all have. If you ask a football team, ‘what are your goals?’ ‘My goal is to win the superbowl and be in the Hall of Fame.’ There’s a superbowl goal, which is like their goal. Then there’s the legacy goal, which is the Hall of Fame.” So it’s cool, we talked about for a company what is your superbowl goal? And what’s your Hall of Fame goal? And also within your organization, with working with you team members, what’s their superbowl, what’s a win for your company? Do they know what it is? I don’t think my team knows. I haven’t really sketched, “This is our goal. This is how we get to the superbowl.” It hasn’t ever been defined, this is the thing, this is how we get in the hall of fame. And I think now that that’s a thing in my head, I’m so excited to figure out what’s our company’s superbowl goal and what’s our hall of fame goal? When you have those it becomes more clear, more tangible. David Derricks awesome, talking about a bunch of stuff. One thing is he just wrote a new book called the Dream 100, which is a big concept none of us ever…I talk about it all the time and nobody ever does it. And my quote at the top says this is the foundation for our entire company. If you’re not doing Dream 100 yet, it’s time to start. Go back and listen to any of my stuff on Dream 100 but it’s how we figured out what our market was, what our blue ocean was. How we figured out where our customers…..everything we’ve done was based on the Dream 100 concept. There’s so many good things here. I don’t even know where to… Oh this is a good one. So Brian Bowman, such a stud. He had a really cool, emotional presentation. He talked about how he was working hard and moving forward and getting things done. And he had a coach who was one of Garret White’s coaches, one of the Warrior Week coaches. He asked, “What’s your target?” and he’s like, “This is what I’m going for.” And then he asked him, “Are you operating with a sense of urgency?” And Brian, while he’d been working hard and hustling and all these kinds of things, he’s like, “Am I operating with a sense of urgency?” And I don’t have permission to tell his story behind what and how, but as soon as he had that thought in his mind, everything shifted for him. He went and instead of moving things toward a goal he was like, “I need to operate with a sense of urgency.” And I think how many times for us we’re like, “Yeah, we’re moving forward, moving towards things. I’m going to launch my product someday. I’m going to write my book. I’m blah, blah, blah.” Whatever our thing is, but it’s like that’s good, but are you operating with a sense of urgency? Is this doing…when is this….this needs to be urgent. If it’s not urgent, you’re never going to do it. So are you operating with a sense of urgency? That was just so powerful. How many times do we not do that? How many times are we just kind of wandering, doing our thing, and it’s not urgent. Because of that days turn into weeks, weeks turn into months, months turn into years and sometimes we never get it accomplished. I think one of the big reasons we’ve had so much success with Clickfunnels is because we do operate with a sense of urgency. I’m always stressing out, which maybe is to my downfall, it’s what makes me tired all the time. I just think it’s interesting, operating with a sense of urgency, having that as a thing we are thinking through all the time. So many good things. What else, what else? Natalie Hodson talking about the power of vulnerability. How vulnerability is the ultimate human connector. So many of us, we try to be postured and perfect and that’s why, because we’re trying to get connection, we think people want to see us perfect and instead it actually pushes people away. How vulnerability is the big secret. It was interesting, Natalie just joined the inner circle. But she came to our FHAT event in February, five or 6 months ago and she was telling this story. She was creating, she’s in the weight loss, fitness market, and she was working out live on Live streaming or Facebook Live or whatever, she did a work out. She’s a mom, she has two kids and during her workout she wet herself, on camera, live in front of the entire world and how embarrassing it was. And obviously that’s an embarrassing thing and most people would never talk about that again, they would leave the video, they would run away from it. But instead she realized that, “If I’m struggling with this, I bet other people probably are too. Maybe I can help them.” And she found a business partner or a content person, who that’s what they specialize in. Helping women to strengthen their pelvic floor so they don’t have those issues. And she created a $37 dollar book teaching the process and she put it out there and on a sales page she’s got pictures of her on a live stream with peed pants in front of the entire world. And she talked about this problem that she has and she knows all these other women have. Anyway, from February until now she sold 50,000 copies of a $37 book. So over a million dollars in sales. And think about how many women’s lives she’s been able to affect because she didn’t posture herself and come off perfect all the time, because she was willing to be vulnerable. It’s just such a powerful thing. I look at the times in my life when I’ve gotten real connection with my audience, it’s not when I’ve been sharing the highlight reel, like we like to do. I think what’s good to do is sometimes to touch on the high reel. “Hey, I’m awesome. Just want to make sure you know this, but let me tell you the truth.” And then break it down. And that has been a theme. In fact, the third inner circle group, I think I’ve never seen so many tears in a mastermind group in my life. The girls were crying, the men were crying, everybody was crying. But because people actually got vulnerable and shared and that’s been a big theme throughout the inner circle. You go to other masterminds and people are sharing the highlight reel and bragging about stuff, where with us everyone has to share, “Here’s what we’re doing awesome, but let me get vulnerable and share with you what’s actually happening.” And then we work at that level. It’s different and interesting and causes real actual change. Anyway, it was amazing. I wish I could take all of you guys along on these journeys. But a lot of our inner circle members are going to be speaking at Funnel Hacking Live. The sales page for Funnel Hacking Live will be going live next week, it’s at funnelhackinglive.com and you’ll have a chance to hear Natalie talk about the power of vulnerability, a lot of these other people I pick are speakers for the most part, inner circle members. So I have a chance to see them present here in my office a couple of times a year. I get to know them intimately, I understand their business, I understand where it fits with what I want to share with our audience. So a lot of them will be speaking at this. So if you don’t have tickets yet, when we go live next week, get them. We pre-sold out over a thousand tickets, I think we have another, I don’t know how many left. Not a lot. So if you want to be there, you know you need to be there and you do, now is the time. Funnelhackinglive.com, get on the waiting list and then wait. My guess is probably Tuesday it will go live. So by the time you hear this, it may be live. But make the effort to be there. It’ll be worth it, I promise you, it will change your life forever. It’s going to be a lot of fun. So yeah, that’s basically the best spot to get the actual highlights, at Funnel Hacking Live. Anyway, with that said, appreciate you. Thanks so much for listening in today to the podcast, and we’ll talk to you guys again soon. Bye.

Drew welcomes Dr. Monique Middlekauff to the show. Monique is a Clinical Exercise Physiologist, a researcher of pelvic floor function, a Certified Higher Education Teaching Specialist and a woman who knows about incontinence. She joins Drew to discuss her findings of who is most at risk for pelvic floor dysfunction, which exercises for pelvic floor muscles can help strengthen and repair them and how using her new program can help athletes find their competitive edge. Struggling with pelvic floor dysfunction? Click here to learn more Key Takeaways: [9:25] Monique was drawn to speak with people in a way that connected with them. [14:35] Muscular endurance can help gauge a person’s level of fitness. [18:14] Monique has completed a marathon and competed in a figure competition. [23:34] Monique describes her dissertation which focused on pelvic floor strength and support. [32:57] Ways to improve your pelvic floor strength. [36:16] The benefit of using biofeedback tools for quantitative results. [40:16] Finding your edge and what sets you apart by working on your pelvic floor. [41:16] Monique defends her findings on pelvic floor strength. [44:31] Women should address pelvic floor dysfunction issues immediately. [45:47] Mothers should take the time to repair and recover after vaginal childbirth. [48:14] Monique and Natalie Hodson are forming a program for women. [50:18] The Lightning Round.   Sponsors: Drop an F Bomb - Mention Fit2Fat2Fit at checkout! Quest Keto Dollar Workout Club   Mentioned in This Episode: Monique Middlekauff Exercise and Movement Science on Facebook Exercise and Sports Science on Instagram Transform with Drew’s Fit2Fat2Fit 6-month Program Fit2Fat2Fit Fit2Fat2Fit Book Fit2Fat2Fit on A&E Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com  

Getting your fitness groove on is difficult at first. Fear of being judged at the gym can cause you to skip your workout. But what do you do when you really want to lose the baby weight, tone your muscles and make yourself healthier and happier? Try focusing on only the things you are able to change and make small, attainable goals for yourself. Lynn’s soul sister and stunt double, Natalie, shares with us how her honesty led her to a new career, a healthier life and gained her millions of followers. Plus, 3 grocery store hacks you can use to buy nutritious, tasty food for less money.   Key Takeaways: [:59] Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar - Yes please and follow it up with a Dollar Workout Club Video [3:28] Natalie never thought she would be in the health and fitness industry [5:01] Without 12-week trainer my fitness journey may not have happened [6:10] Finding ways to make eating healthy taste good [8:30] We were swimming in student loan debt, so I needed to work [14:32] I used exercise as self-care when I reached mommy burnout [17:35] Getting women on the same page [19:30] Frustration about my body changes and no one talked about it [21:20] Natalie’s #ownit campaign - Focus on things you can change [27:00] Helping with the Perfectly Imperfect campaign [28:47] There have been mean comments [29:36] Men have insecurities and inadequacies too [31:47] Dave Ramsey Podcast [33:05] Natalie’s grocery store hacks [39:10] Dealing with a spouse who is not on board [43:07] Lynn survives being thrown under the bus by Drew, again [44:10] It’s a difficult situation discussing your fitness goals with your spouse [47:30] A 3rd child? [48:20] Natalie would do a fit2fat2fit journey [50:30] The Lightning Round - Accidents happen   Mentions: Quest Nutrition Natalie Hodson @nataliehodson1 Dollar Workout Club LiveFit Trainer Bodybuilding.com Scentsy #ownit Smart Money, Smart Kids Fit2Fat2Fit 2FitatHome  

Lynn and Drew welcome us to listen to their new podcast. They answer the most common questions they receive, Drew about his Fit2Fat2Fit experience and Lynn about why she only works with women. Drew is not just another trainer with a 6 pack. His experience has given him a unique perspective on the mental and emotional draw of today’s common food options. He wrote a book to share his experience with the world. Lynn feels women are more harshly judged by their physical aspects and knows it is harder for women to lose weight. She believes learning to love oneself is an important first step. Subscribe in iTunes for their next episode!    Key Takeaways: [:15] Why we like Quest Nutrition  [1:31] Drew who? and Lynn the Foodie  [4:33] Why Drew do the Fit2Fat experience? [5:07] I wanted people to embrace a healthier lifestyle change [6:11] The journey was mental and emotional  [7:53] I was pregnant so I was happy to have good food in the house [9:31] He was obsessed with his health and fitness to the point of disliking carrots [11:02] What training methods have changed since your experiment? [11:52] I really do focus more on the mental and emotional side of weight loss [13:39] I don’t pretend to know exactly what it’s like [14:31] Why do you only work with women, Lynn? [14:57] I had some underlying bitterness towards the physical differences in weight loss  [16:33] I learned why it is harder to lose weight but if you love yourself it’s easier [17:35] Our goal is for overall better medical health  [18:46] This podcast will have interviews with people in the health industry [19:42] All feedback is welcome  [20:00] Drew will have a part in an A&E show in the future [20:45] We are working with Natalie Hodson on Dollar Workout Club  [22:14] Leave your comments and subscribe to us on iTunes   Mentions: Fit2Fat2Fit 2 Fit at Home Quest Nutrition  Dollar Workout Club