Podcasts about Yada

Let's go to the WRD Talk LIVE. We talked to Gerald in Cowpens. How you doing, Gerald? Hey, buddy. So, Charlie, if you wanna see a awesome parade, go to Cowpens Town Hall Facebook page. We had a parade Saturday that honored the w w two veterans that served on the USS Cowpens. It is heartwarming to watch. We will certainly check that out. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Gerald. Well, the Democrats, they should change their name. They that's what they need. I saw this guy this weekend. I think it was over on TikTok. He was like he was like, how can I make a can of Pepsi healthy? How can I do that? And he went on I mean, it was amazing what this guy did. First of all, he changed it to Pepsi hydration. Pepsi hydration made mostly water, and and he rebranded it to say, the main ingredient it is is always water. Made from all natural ingredients. Yada yada yada. And he took this ordinary can of Pepsi, rebranded it, and made it look like something you go, man, I'm gonna give me some of this Pepsi hydrate. Yeah, ma'am. Oh, yes. I'm I'm dehydrated. I better get me a big old can of Pepsi. It was just Pepsi. That's all it was. But he was able to rebrand it and make it into something that it completely was not. The Democrats need a rebranding. They need to drop that name, the Democrat Party. That's not working for me. It's got, it's got too much too much baggage with it, too much luggage, too much bad history. They need to change the name of the Democrat Party to exactly what they really are, and that is the Dunning Kruger party. Now if you don't know what the Dunning Kruger effect is, let me explain it to you. And I've got I'm gonna go here. I'm gonna get the official definition. The Dunning Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people with low ability in a specific area tend to overestimate their competence, while those with high ability tend to underestimate their ability. Essentially, unskilled individuals lack the self awareness to recognize their own incompetence, leading them to believe that they are more skilled than they actually are. Conversely, highly skilled individuals may underestimate their abilities because they perceive tasks that are easy for them to be easy for everyone else as well. In other words, what's that saying is people, the Dunning Kruger effect means that you're an idiot, and you're too stupid to know that you're an idiot. Can you think of a better definition of the Democrat party? They're dumb, and they just don't know it. All of this I mean, literally, all of this stuff that they say when you got you got what that that mayor of Chicago now calling for reparations. Basically saying that the the city of Chicago is only going to work with black vendors. Literally saying that. That happened today. This guy is so dumb. He doesn't even realize how dumb he is. Maxine Waters is so dumb. She doesn't even realize how dumb she is. But, boy, everything she says, she says with the utmost confidence. So, yeah, the Democrat party, they should be renamed the Dunning Kruger party because while they're idiots, while they're incompetent, in their own little pea brained mind, they believe they are. They literally think they're doing a good job. They're sitting there putting forks in light sockets, thinking they're doing something good. They have no idea. They really don't. So they get involved in all of these causes, like these no king. I will guarantee you, most of those people at the no king's protest that were going on this weekend really truly had no idea why they was there. They were just there because somebody told them to go. Now we've had a couple of no kings parties, no kings protest in this country in the past. The first one happened in 1776. The latest one that happened was on February, actually, when we elected Donald Trump. Theirs was the party that were acting. They were the ones that were the authoritarians. They were the ones that were shutting this country down. They were the ones that ar ...

Let's go to the WRD Talk LIVE. We talked to Gerald in Cowpens. How are you doing, Gerald? Hey, buddy. So, Charlie, if you wanna see a awesome parade, go to Cowpens Town Hall Facebook page. We had a parade Saturday that honored the w w two veterans that served on the USS Cowpens. It is heartwarming to watch. We will certainly check that out. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Gerald. Well, the Democrats, they should change their name. They that's what they need. I saw this guy this weekend. I think it was over on TikTok. He was like he was like, how can I make a can of Pepsi healthy? How can I do that? And he went on I mean, it was amazing what this guy did. First of all, he changed it to Pepsi Hydration. Pepsi Hydration made mostly water, and and he rebranded it to say, the main ingredient it is is always water. Made from all natural ingredients. Yada yada yada. And he took this ordinary can of Pepsi, rebranded it, and made it look like something you go, man, I'm gonna give me some of this Pepsi hydrate. Yeah, Mel. Oh, yes. I'm I'm dehydrated. I better get me a big old can of Pepsi. It was just Pepsi. That's all it was. But he was able to rebrand it and make it into something that it completely was not. The Democrats need a rebranding. They need to drop that name, the Democrat Party. That's not working for them. It's got, it's got too much too much baggage with it, too much luggage, too much bad history. They need to change the name of the Democrat Party to exactly what they really are, and that is the Dunning Kruger party. Now if you don't know what the Dunning Kruger effect is, let me explain it to you. And I've got I'm gonna go here. I'm gonna get the official definition. The Dunning Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people with low ability in a specific area tend to overestimate their competence, while those with high ability tend to underestimate their ability. Essentially, unskilled individuals lack the self awareness to recognize their own incompetence, leading them to believe that they are more skilled than they actually are. Conversely, highly skilled individuals may underestimate their abilities because they perceive tasks that are easy for them to be easy for everyone else as well. In other words, what's that saying is people, the Dunning Kruger effect means that you're an idiot and you're too stupid to know that you're an idiot. Can you think of a better definition of the Democrat party? They're dumb, and they just don't know it. All of this I mean, literally, all of this stuff that they say, when you got you got what that that mayor of Chicago now calling for reparations. Basically saying that the the city of Chicago is only going to work with black vendors. Literally saying that. That happened today. This guy is so dumb. He doesn't even realize how dumb he is. Maxine Waters is so dumb. She doesn't even realize how dumb she is. But, boy, everything she says, she says with the utmost confidence. So, yeah, the Democrat Party, they should be renamed the Dunning Kruger Party because while they're idiots, while they're incompetent, in their own little pea brained mind, they believe they are. They literally think they're doing a good job. They're sitting there putting forks in light sockets, thinking they're doing something good. They have no idea. They really don't. So they get involved in all of these causes, like these no king. I will guarantee you, most of those people at the no king's protest that were going on this weekend really, truly had no idea why they was there. They were just there because somebody told them to go. Now we've had a couple of no kings parties, no kings protest in this country in the past. The first one happened in 1776. The latest one that happened was on February, actually, when we elected Donald Trump. Theirs was the party that were acting. They were the ones that were the authoritarians. They were the ones that were shutting this country down. They were the ones th ...

What is it that God is calling us to when He says, “Come and worship”? Let's seek to answer that question by looking first at some… Biblical Examples of Worship.The first example is found in Psalm 95. It gives us not only a call to worship, it also provides a pattern for worship. Celebration (v. 1-5) Notice the phrases “sing for joy,” “shout aloud,” and “let us extol Him.” Worship is a time for God's people to celebrate their Lord. Adoration (v. 6-7) Here we're called to “bow down,” to “kneel” before the Lord. It is a quieter, more intimate response.Instruction (v. 8-11) The psalmist says, “Today if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.” Part of worship is hearing God's Word. Psalm 96 provides us with a few additional insights. The very first word in this psalm is “sing.” Three times in the first two verses, we are told to “sing to the Lord.” This is one of the most common commands in Scripture. This is why singing is such an integral part of our corporate worship gatherings. As you worship the Lord…Sing boldly.Sing thoughtfully.Sing wholeheartedly.Sing skillfully.Something else we see in Psalm 96 is the call to “bring an offering.” (v. 7-9) Giving to God is an act of worship. As such, when we give, we should…Be intentional.Be thoughtful.Be cheerful.Next, let's look at some…Biblical Expressions of Worship.Here are eight Hebrew words, often translated as “praise,” that may revolutionize your worship.1.     Halal: to boast; to celebrate; to be vigorously joyful; to be clamorously foolish (Ps. 35:18) Halal is the more common word for “praise” in the Psalms. It's the root from which we get the term “hallelujah.” It's is an explosion of enthusiasm in the act of praising. 2.     Tehilla: to sing; to laud (Ps. 33:1) Literally, this is the singing of one's halals. 3.     Zamar: to touch the strings; to make music (Ps. 104:33) This is why we use instruments in our worship.4.     Shabach: to address in a loud tone; to triumph; to glory (Ps. 145:4) This is a loud verbalization of praise—a shout. 5.     Shachah: to bow down; to pay homage; to prostrate oneself; to have the arrogance knocked out (Ps. 96:9) This refers to lying prostrate, flat on your face before the Lord.6.     Barak: to kneel down expecting a blessing from God; to bless God as an act of adoration (Ps. 34:1) This is kneeling before God in humility and surrender, but also expectation. 7.     Yada: to acknowledge God's character; to make a declaration of worship; to throw out the hand enjoying God (Ps. 63:3-4) This involves lifting our hands to the Lord in worship.8.     Todah: to extend hands in thanksgiving and acceptance; to offer a sacrifice of thanksgiving (Ps. 116:17) This also involves the lifting of hands to the Lord, but it more specifically has to do with offering a sacrifice of praise.  Text: Psalm 95, 96Originally recorded on January 24, 1999, at Fellowship Missionary Church, Fort Wayne, IN

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2 Peter 1:10-11 // Jonathan NeefDiscover how knowing Jesus with your whole being, body and soul, is the key to true virtue. This video explores the connection between spiritual disciplines, embodied knowledge, and the Christian life. Learn practical ways to "make every effort" in your faith journey, not through striving, but through deeper intimacy with Christ.SERMON NOTES (YouVersion): https://bible.com/events/49434513PRAYER REQUESTS: https://ccefc.ccbchurch.com/goto/forms/2542/responses/new25.05.18

2 Peter 1:10-11 // Tom NelsonDiscover how knowing Jesus with your whole being, body and soul, is the key to true virtue. This video explores the connection between spiritual disciplines, embodied knowledge, and the Christian life. Learn practical ways to "make every effort" in your faith journey, not through striving, but through deeper intimacy with Christ.SERMON NOTES (YouVersion): https://bible.com/events/49434514PRAYER REQUESTS: https://ccefc.ccbchurch.com/goto/forms/2509/responses/new25.05.18

2 Peter 1:10-11 // Gabriel CoyleDiscover how knowing Jesus with your whole being, body and soul, is the key to true virtue. This video explores the connection between spiritual disciplines, embodied knowledge, and the Christian life. Learn practical ways to "make every effort" in your faith journey, not through striving, but through deeper intimacy with Christ.SERMON NOTES (YouVersion): https://bible.com/events/49434515PRAYER REQUESTS: https://ccefc.ccbchurch.com/goto/forms/2553/responses/new25.05.18

2 Peter 1:10-11 // Bill GormanDiscover how knowing Jesus with your whole being, body and soul, is the key to true virtue. This video explores the connection between spiritual disciplines, embodied knowledge, and the Christian life. Learn practical ways to "make every effort" in your faith journey, not through striving, but through deeper intimacy with Christ.SERMON NOTES (YouVersion): https://bible.com/events/49434516PRAYER REQUESTS: https://ccefc.ccbchurch.com/goto/forms/2546/responses/new25.05.18

2 Peter 1:10-11 // Paul BrandesDiscover how knowing Jesus with your whole being, body and soul, is the key to true virtue. This video explores the connection between spiritual disciplines, embodied knowledge, and the Christian life. Learn practical ways to "make every effort" in your faith journey, not through striving, but through deeper intimacy with Christ.SERMON NOTES (YouVersion): https://bible.com/events/49434512PRAYER REQUESTS: https://ccefc.ccbchurch.com/goto/forms/2574/responses/new25.05.18

In this powerful episode, Brady Cone sits down with Amber and Ashley from Across My Heart Ministries—two sisters who are leading the next generation into a better understanding of biblical sexuality, purity, and God's design for relationships. They dive deep into:✅ What purity really means (hint: it's not just abstinence)✅ How Gen Z is rethinking purity culture✅ Why shame-based messaging fails—and the gospel doesn't✅ How parents can disciple their kids with grace and truth✅ What the word Yada actually means and how it changes everything

What's happening y'all? This is an honest to God, real live actual planned podcast episode. So let's dig right on into it. I got a question, a good question, the other day. I forgot who asked me so I can't credit them that, but whoever you are, thanks for asking it. The question was, what three beliefs do you wish you had when you were 20? Which was really a good question. All the self-help folks, as a generalization, will tell you that your beliefs affect your thinking, your thinking affects your decisions, your decisions affect your actions and in your actions affect your life. Yada, yada, yada. I believe all of that to be true. Only reason I'm yada yada yada -ing it is because I know you've heard it a billion times, just like I have. Man, what a good question. So I spent a lot of time thinking about it and I don't know if I've got three, but I've got one that I wish I would have, I could have installed in my 20s and here it is...

In a rapidly changing world, ancient truths remain steadfast, offering wisdom and direction to a new generation. Understanding old words in a new light requires a deeper exploration of their original meanings, often found in the richness of the Hebrew language. Biblical Hebrew is layered with depth, where a single word can carry multiple shades of meaning, revealing insights that modern translations may not fully capture. Words like shalom (peace) or hesed (loving-kindness) go beyond simple definitions, embodying profound spiritual realities. By studying these ancient words, we uncover timeless truths that speak directly to our lives today, bridging the past with the present and helping us grasp God's message with greater clarity and depth.

On the surface, at least, getting drunk on Purim is not only part of the simcha of the day but certainly enhances it as well. What would the day look like if we all remained sober?However, it doesn't take much thought to realize that drinking to the point of "Ad d'lo Yada" seems to contradict the entire intention of the Torah! Living a life of Avodas Hashem requires us to be fully mindful and maximize the cognitive powers that The Ribono Shel Olam has endowed us with.If so, how could Chazal give us a mitzvas hayom to reach a state where we are literally wasted?When we probe deeper into this mitzvah, aside from answering this question we will gain valuable insight into a unique opportunity that Purim offers unavailable to us the rest of the year!Please share your comments and insights If you seek the Torah's timeless wisdom to assist in navigating your life's challenges, check out other helpful episodes on this podcast.

Cours Halakha Time du Mercredi 19 Février 2025 (durée : 7 minutes) donné par Rav Yossef AYACHE.

Al and Kevin discuss their most anticipated games of 2025 Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:02:22: What Have We Been Up To 00:27:27: What We Are Looking Forward To In 2025 00:58:05: Outro Contact Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Al: Hello farmers and welcome to the first episode of the harvest season of 2025. My name is Al. (0:00:38) Kev: Wow, I’m Kevin and hmm. Did you smell that new 2025 smell that New Year’s? No (0:00:46) Al: It smells very much like 2024. We are recording this episode quite early. Four weeks early, (0:00:56) Kev: Yeah, something like that yeah, we broke a favor no (0:00:56) Al: three weeks early three weeks early three weeks early so uh (0:01:01) Al: so yeah who knows what the world will be like in three and a half weeks (0:01:06) Kev: Oh, and boy! (0:01:08) Kev: Oh, gosh, that, you know, that was a time that could have been a “haha” joke, you know, that’s a serious threat these days. (0:01:14) Al: So obviously, we will not have any news, any news that we’ve missed over the last two weeks (0:01:15) Kev: Oh, no! (0:01:24) Al: will be in the next episode. We’ll probably do a news catch-up episode. But yeah, we’re (0:01:30) Kev: Yep. So, you know, very. (0:01:31) Al: going to talk about our exciting, what we’re looking forward to for this year, our most (0:01:37) Al: anticipated games of 2025. (0:01:40) Kev: I mean, surely, you know, chocolate, or haunted chocolatier, which undoubtedly will have the release date by this point, because we’re not recording it early. (0:01:51) Kev: But yes, no. 2025, look at-looking. (0:01:53) Al: I mean, considering he just said that he hasn’t worked on it at all in the last year, (0:02:02) Kev: Yeah (0:02:03) Kev: Yeah (0:02:03) Al: basically, I don’t think that’s the case. (0:02:04) Kev: Yeah (0:02:06) Kev: Those screenshots were doctored (0:02:09) Kev: Yeah, no probably not but uh, but hey things to look forward to 2025 because boy do we need to find those especially out here in the (0:02:19) Al: So we’re going to talk about that, but first of all, Kevin, what have you been up to? (0:02:28) Kev: Okay, so all right since we already broke (0:02:32) Kev: All in um, I mean I’ve been playing a lot of the usual Marvel snap is it’s very busy right now (0:02:38) Kev: There’s a lot going on Marvel snap. I’m playing on its new season (0:02:43) Kev: I’m having fun with it (0:02:44) Al: Of course, when this comes out, it will be nearly time for another new season. (0:02:48) Kev: Probably actually the new season will be out but it’s funny though because (0:02:50) Al: No, because this is releasing on the 1st of January, so it will be another couple of days. (0:02:55) Kev: You’re right, you’re right. Okay. Well almost yeah (0:02:57) Kev: well the end of uh almost the end of that season well either way i’m having fun (0:03:02) Kev: at the start of the season I can’t say about future kevin who he’s out of my mind probably (0:03:07) Kev: um but um honestly that goes hand in hand with uh uh what i’ve really been up to uh because the (0:03:17) Kev: marvel snap season for december is a crossover season with marvel rivals which at the time of (0:03:24) Kev: recording just brought the kids to be here the day before yesterday it’s been a little more than 24 (0:03:29) Kev: hours. (0:03:32) Kev: It’s just Overwatch, but with Marvel, it is just Overwatch, and original Overwatch, (0:03:44) Kev: so I played Overwatch when it first came out in 2016, almost 10 years ago, which is wild, (0:03:50) Kev: 8 years at this point I guess, and I loved Overwatch, I adored it, I played so much Overwatch, (0:03:58) Kev: And then they basically ruined it. (0:04:02) Kev: It was two things. I mean, even before Overwatch 2, (0:04:06) Kev: they, the way they updated and patch things and balance things or whatever, (0:04:14) Kev: they started gearing it very much towards like high level competitive tournament stuff or whatever. (0:04:21) Kev: So they reworked a lot of characters and just basically they ruined a lot of it for me. (0:04:25) Kev: It was just nowhere near as fun when I dropped out. (0:04:30) Kev: which I can’t remember. (0:04:32) Kev: Pre-COVID I think when I finally kind of dropped it, but yeah. (0:04:35) Kev: And then Overwatch 2 came out, which was great because they just– (0:04:40) Kev: here’s the secret, Al, it really was just more Overwatch. (0:04:44) Kev: It was not Overwatch 2. (0:04:46) Kev: It was just the same thing, except they made it even worse (0:04:49) Kev: because I don’t think all the characters were free. (0:04:54) Kev: They changed it from 6v6 to 5v5 and just all sorts of nonsense. (0:05:02) Kev: It’s so– embarrassingly so, I would say. (0:05:06) Kev: Actually, just like the week before Rivals dropped, (0:05:08) Kev: Overwatch 2 did a mode called Overwatch Origins or something. (0:05:11) Kev: I don’t remember. (0:05:12) Kev: Basically, they had a mode where everything (0:05:15) Kev: was set back to the original Overwatch cast and abilities (0:05:19) Kev: and balances and stuff like that, which is really funny. (0:05:22) Kev: They were trying to capture that magic again (0:05:24) Kev: because Rivals was right around the corner. (0:05:28) Kev: But it doesn’t matter because Rivals is here (0:05:32) Kev: and die now. (0:05:34) Kev: So yeah, Mar– (0:05:35) Kev: OK. (0:05:37) Kev: First of all, Marvel Rivals, very stylistic. (0:05:41) Kev: It’s made by NetEase, a Chinese company. (0:05:43) Kev: They have that, what I call Chinese anime aesthetic, (0:05:47) Kev: like ancient impact and stuff. (0:05:49) Kev: Here’s this very edgy, pointy, and stylistic. (0:05:52) Kev: I like it myself. (0:05:55) Kev: But they also have– (0:05:56) Kev: I counted them where, I believe, 29 characters (0:05:59) Kev: at launch, which is insane. (0:06:02) Kev: Then when Overwatch 1 shut down, just at launch, which is wild. (0:06:07) Kev: So we have a good, healthy pick. (0:06:10) Kev: I’ve been trying to play different characters, (0:06:12) Kev: but there’s so many of them. (0:06:15) Kev: There’s– I mean, I like Squirrel Girl a lot. (0:06:19) Kev: She’s like the first one I picked. (0:06:20) Kev: And I think she still might be my favorite. (0:06:22) Kev: Penny Parker with her robot is pretty fun. (0:06:25) Kev: Captain America is really fun. (0:06:27) Kev: His shield just reflects everything. (0:06:29) Kev: I just stand there and let things hit the shield. (0:06:32) Kev: I’m contributing, yeah. (0:06:35) Kev: Hulk is fun. (0:06:37) Kev: Some characters are really hard. (0:06:39) Kev: OK, so Spider-Man played just like Spider-Man (0:06:42) Kev: from the PS4 or 5 games. (0:06:44) Kev: He has a swing. (0:06:45) Kev: He punches. (0:06:46) Kev: He does the web shoot. (0:06:47) Kev: His movement feels just like the PS5 version. (0:06:52) Kev: But that also makes him insanely difficult (0:06:54) Kev: because it’s such a chaotic game. (0:06:56) Kev: So you have to be very precise with Spider-Man. (0:07:00) Kev: and you’re trying to hit other, you know, actual… (0:07:02) Kev: players and such um it’s uh yeah it’s it’s uh it’s great great fun so you’ve never played overwatch (0:07:12) Al: I have not. I’m not a big first person game of any sort kind of person. Like, I’m struggling (0:07:18) Kev: - Mm-hmm. (0:07:19) Kev: - Okay. (0:07:20) Al: to think of any first person game that I actively enjoyed, whether it’s a shooter or anything (0:07:22) Kev: - Yeah. (0:07:24) Kev: - Short. (0:07:26) Al: else. I’m not a huge fan of the perspective, because I think the thing is that you’d think, (0:07:27) Kev: - Short. (0:07:33) Al: oh, well, first person should be the most realistic thing, right? But the problem is (0:07:38) Al: that your screen is not as wide as your (0:07:42) Al: peripheral vision is so I just feel like and this happens in a lot of games (0:07:43) Kev: Yeah, oh, that’s a good point (0:07:46) Al: with movable cameras in that I just feel almost claustrophobic is obviously (0:07:47) Kev: Uh-huh (0:07:51) Al: not a phobia but it’s that sort of idea of like I feel hemmed in and I can’t see (0:07:52) Kev: Yeah (0:07:54) Kev: I get it right yet (0:07:57) Kev: It feels busy. Yeah, I totally can get that. I’m generally not a first-person shooter person either (0:08:03) Kev: I did pick it up for overwatch and whatnot, but you know, here’s here’s the secret out. Here’s a surprise (0:08:09) Kev: Marvel Rivals is not first-person (0:08:11) Al: Oh, it’s not! (0:08:13) Kev: It’s it’s you you hold the back third-person camera. You see your full character when playing (0:08:19) Kev: So as you say you do have a much wider (0:08:23) Kev: Like scope you like how much you can see at once it is my yeah (0:08:26) Al: Oh, yeah. (0:08:29) Kev: So the camera is is focused on you like you’re always centered on it and whatnot (0:08:35) Al: Is Overwatch like this as well? (0:08:37) Kev: No, it is not (0:08:38) Al: Is Overwatch first person? (0:08:39) Kev: Overwatch is first-person. Yes, so you’re not you’re not (0:08:40) Al: Okay, so I’m not so I’m not just making I’m not just making because because people are (0:08:43) Kev: No [LAUGH] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I know, yes, because you’re not crazy, no, right? (0:08:44) Al: just saying this is just and you did this exactly. (0:08:46) Al: It’s Overwatch, but Marvel. (0:08:48) Al: So so I’m not going crazy. (0:08:50) Al: I was thinking if it’s Overwatch like Marvel, that would mean it was first person, but it’s (0:08:54) Al: not. (0:08:55) Al: Okay, fine. (0:08:56) Al: I was like, have I just miss on miss remembered this game for like, what, 10 years? (0:09:02) Al: Is that how long since the first one came out? (0:09:04) Kev: No, yes, no, no, no, you are correct and but yeah, here’s like, that’s a big thing, right? (0:09:10) Al: Not 10 years, eight years. (0:09:11) Kev: And yeah, eight years almost ten years, but. (0:09:13) Al: 2016 that year. (0:09:13) Kev: Well, okay. And that’s a big thing because I mean, first of all, like you said, the whole camera thing, like, yeah, I can understand. And so obviously that improves that, especially like I couldn’t imagine playing that as Spider-Man, like being first person while swinging around and fly. (0:09:31) Al: No, no, I’d feel sick. (0:09:32) Kev: Oh my gosh. That would be insane. That would be unplayable. So it works well. They can do stuff like that, right? (0:09:41) Kev: And furthermore, I think (0:09:43) Kev: Because much like overwatch one of the (0:09:50) Kev: Foundations let’s say of the game the pillars is cosmetics right like different skins and emotes and so on and so forth, right? (0:09:56) Kev: so (0:09:57) Kev: When overwatch you get a cool skin well, you can’t see it most of them (0:10:01) Kev: You don’t see it when you’re actually playing the game, right? You see like the characters hand maybe but and the death camera (0:10:06) Kev: I guess but here you can actually see your costumes the whole time when you’re playing the game, which is you know, very nice (0:10:14) Kev: And so and actually on that note (0:10:17) Kev: monetization like they were very clear and (0:10:21) Kev: Transparent about it. They dropped the link a blog like actually two days before the game came out (0:10:25) Kev: we didn’t actually know what it was gonna look so right then but (0:10:29) Kev: Two things they were very adamant and clear about one the game is free to play which overwatch (0:10:34) Kev: original was not I don’t know about overwatch - but Marvel rivals is completely free to play and download and play and (0:10:40) Kev: and furthermore, every character is free to play. (0:10:43) Kev: Like I said, Overwatch, I believe that is not the case anymore. (0:10:46) Kev: In Overwatch 2, you have to buy characters or whatever. (0:10:49) Kev: But here, nope, you can pick whatever character you like. (0:10:52) Kev: They have a Season Pass, Battle Pass thing. (0:10:55) Kev: They have bundles that they call them, (0:10:58) Kev: where you can buy a skin and an emote and an animation. (0:11:01) Kev: All sorts of different things, it’s all grouped up together, right? (0:11:05) Kev: And that’s how they’re going to focus on the monetization. (0:11:08) Kev: It’s all going to be cosmetics, which is fantastic. (0:11:12) Al: And so this game is free to play, and you can play all the characters, and it’s in third (0:11:13) Kev: It is free to play, yep. (0:11:17) Kev: That’s correct. (0:11:18) Al: person, and it’s characters I like. (0:11:20) Kev: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. (0:11:22) Al: Damn it. (0:11:23) Kev: Yes, I did it, score. (0:11:26) Al: And it’s on Steam, presumably, so I can play it on Steam Deck. (0:11:26) Kev: It is on Steam, PS5, and Xbox, whatever the current one is, I’ve lost track. (0:11:32) Al: Is it cross-play? (0:11:34) Kev: Okay, actually, I think they did a very fair way of approaching that. (0:11:38) Kev: It is cross-play, if you’re playing casual matches. (0:11:41) Kev: if you’re just doing quick play. (0:11:43) Kev: It is cross play and I see that all the time if you’re playing ranked. (0:11:48) Al: what about cross save (0:11:50) Kev: I think it is cross save. (0:11:52) Kev: I haven’t looked too hard into that but that probably should be I think so. (0:11:53) Al: so if I want to if I want to start it on my steam deck and then go on to my ps5 (0:11:59) Al: presumably I can keep any settings I have (0:12:01) Kev: I I yeah, I don’t I don’t have that hard information in front of me, but I would wager that’s the case. (0:12:10) Kev: But yeah, so if you play ranked, it’s uh, yeah, I know right. (0:12:13) Kev: They’re answering all the questions correctly. (0:12:16) Kev: If you, uh, play, um, if you play ranked, you, you just play with (0:12:20) Kev: people on the same systems or whatever you’re on, which seems fair. (0:12:23) Kev: Yeah, that’s, that’s fine. (0:12:24) Kev: Um, but you can totally play cross play with other folks on slack or whatever. (0:12:28) Kev: Um, so yeah, all right. (0:12:30) Kev: There you go. (0:12:31) Kev: Al’s on board. (0:12:32) Kev: You people should try it too. (0:12:33) Al: Oh, my word, forty seven gigabytes. (0:12:37) Kev: It’s, it’s a beefy boy. (0:12:38) Al: Oh, I literally don’t have enough space on my steam deck. (0:12:39) Kev: Um, wait, 40. (0:12:43) Al: Forty seven, I’m seeing forty seven is what it’s saying on Steam. (0:12:43) Kev: seven? Really? Oh. Good times. Good times. Um, but yeah, it’s, I can’t recommend it enough. (0:12:47) Al: Forty seven gigabytes. (0:12:48) Al: I need to uninstall something or get a bigger SD card. (0:12:52) Al: Because I have forty three gigabytes free. (0:12:59) Kev: It’s, it’s fun. It’s got lots of different styles of play. Groot builds walls. He’s fun. (0:13:06) Kev: Um, Iron Man is always flying. He’s just shoots from the air. He is always lying. Like a little, (0:13:11) Kev: I don’t think he can actually run. (0:13:14) Kev: Loki creates duplicates, so on and so forth. It’s good fun. (0:13:18) Al: this feels like a game that I’m going to stick on my PS5 and use, because I am one of those suckers (0:13:25) Al: that has a PS Portal. So it feels like I’m going to stick it on my PS5, use my PS Portal, (0:13:26) Kev: There you go. (0:13:32) Al: rather than trying to fit it on my Steam tech, which is full to the brim of different games. (0:13:38) Al: Whereas my PS5 currently, I have been playing Astro Bot on it just the last few games. They’ve (0:13:45) Al: they’ve added some the like speed as. (0:13:48) Al: Speed run levels, so I’ve been doing them and I’ve just about to once I’ve finished (0:13:54) Al: playing Zelda, which I will have done by the time this episode comes out, (0:13:57) Al: but I’m not going to talk about that because I’m talking about that. (0:13:59) Al: In the second episode that I’m recording today, just a little behind the scenes. (0:14:00) Kev: that is releasing that is releasing before this episode so you’ve already (0:14:07) Al: March before, three weeks before, I will, I’m going to once I finish Zelda, I’m going to start. (0:14:09) Kev: so you’ve already talked about it actually (0:14:18) Al: Hopefully finish before the end of the year, Sonic Shadows. Sonic Shadow generations. (0:14:24) Kev: Oh I gotta get into that too. Generations, yeah. Oh man I gotta get to that too. (0:14:27) Al: Yeah, because you finished it, haven’t you? (0:14:29) Kev: Uh, no, I finished Sonic, uh, uh, Frontiers, the, the, the open world one. (0:14:33) Al: Oh, I thought you said you finish it, January. I thought you said something about that. (0:14:36) Kev: Oh, I put, uh, original, Sonic Generations, the original Sonic, mm-mm, no, no, I’ve not (0:14:38) Al: No, no, no, no, no. I’m sure I saw you saying something about Shadow. (0:14:42) Al: Did I just misread what you said? (0:14:43) Kev: gotten, maybe, because I finished Sonic Frontiers, but not, uh, I’ve not touched Shadow Generations (0:14:48) Kev: yet, um, I, I actually do have it, it is ready to open, and as soon as I… (0:14:54) Kev: probably finish up the, well, we’ll see, I don’t know, because Marvel Rivals is eating (0:14:57) Kev: my life right now, so at some point I will get to it. Um, uh, going back to, dude, I just posted, (0:15:05) Kev: uh, in the chat here, uh, a Penny Arcade comic, you gotta see it, it’s about playing Marvel (0:15:09) Kev: Rivals on the Steam Deck, just like you were talking about, good times. Um, but yeah, that’s, (0:15:14) Kev: uh, Marvel Rivals, I’m glad I sold Al on it, sick, um, big thumbs up, I’m sure it’s even better by (0:15:21) Kev: by the time this actually comes out. (0:15:21) Al: Oh, well, what I’m going to talk about. Obviously, I’ve also been playing, (0:15:24) Kev: what do you have been up to, Al? (0:15:26) Kev: other than (0:15:30) Kev: yes, other than the Zelda (0:15:32) Kev: which you’ve already talked about (0:15:33) Al: yeah, I’ve also been playing Snap, but I think I’m kind of wrapping up on that for just now, (0:15:39) Al: because I’m just getting a bit tired. I’ve been playing it every single day (0:15:43) Al: a lot, because, I mean, you know, you’ve seen the leaderboard on there. I don’t stop. (0:15:47) Kev: I you you do you I play daily but yeah you curve saw me on the leaderboard (0:15:52) Al: I would love to see, what do I play? I play it on my Mac. I don’t think it has, like, (0:15:54) Kev: every every week you do play good (0:16:00) Al: time, amount of time you’ve played on that. But, like, yeah, the amount of time I put in is just (0:16:07) Al: stupid. Like, I would be playing it for, like, what, two to three hours every single day, (0:16:16) Kev: That’s not, ha ha ha ha ha ha. (0:16:16) Al: two to three hours minimum every single day for about six months. (0:16:21) Kev: Ahhhhhh. (0:16:21) Al: I think I’m rolling back on that a little bit, just because I want to play some other things, (0:16:25) Kev: I don’t, weren’t you so high? (0:16:29) Kev: Yeah, until they bring you back in. (0:16:30) Al: and I’m just getting a little bit tired. They will, of course, because this happened last (0:16:32) Kev: It’s the ebb and flow. (0:16:35) Al: time as well. I played it from launch for a good nine months or something like that, (0:16:41) Al: and then I got tired again, and stopped for a while, and then got back into it six months ago. (0:16:48) Al: I’m sure it will get me back in again, and I’m sure I’ll be annoyed that I… (0:16:51) Al: I took the break because obviously I will be so far behind with the cards, but… (0:16:55) Kev: Well, hopefully they’ll have fixed it by then. (0:16:59) Al: We’ll see. We’ll see. (0:17:00) Kev: We’ll see. (0:17:01) Kev: Probably not. (0:17:01) Kev: It’ll probably take them a minute to fix it. (0:17:04) Al: And I’ve been playing Pocket as well, just my regular daily Pocket. (0:17:09) Al: I’m managing to actually do that as an actual how people do daily games, right? (0:17:13) Al: Of putting like 15 minutes into it a day. (0:17:18) Al: Crazy, I know. I don’t do that. (0:17:18) Kev: I don’t blame you but um well hey pocket no I would just say like I still haven’t got (0:17:19) Al: I put my entire game. (0:17:21) Al: gaming time into a game normally when I’m playing it. (0:17:23) Al: But the other thing I’ve been up to recent. Oh, sorry, are you gonna say something? (0:17:34) Kev: into it and like I don’t know something about it it just feels almost uh the more I hear (0:17:41) Kev: about it while not playing it the weirder it sounds to me which like is very much a (0:17:46) Kev: a me thing like I don’t have all the pieces (0:17:48) Kev: in the puzzle but it’s just I don’t get it I still but regardless good for you (0:17:54) Kev: enjoy your wonder pics which I just learned what is today what’s that it’s (0:17:57) Al: I enjoy it, I like collecting things, and this allows me to collect things without battling. (0:18:09) Al: The other thing I’ve been up to, because I will have talked about all the other games (0:18:13) Al: in different episodes, I’m going to talk about I have been watching the TV show Legion. (0:18:19) Kev: Okay, I have not, but I am familiar with it. First of all, who thought of that premise? (0:18:26) Kev: Let’s make a show about Legion, the Professor X’s son. (0:18:28) Al: it’s it’s yeah and it’s funny it’s funny because um that it that’s the entire link (0:18:36) Al: to marvel stuff is legion and minor spoilers for legion but if you know anything about the (0:18:44) Al: character this will not be a spoiler for you shadow king right that is that that’s it (0:18:48) Kev: yeah yeah I actually found out about shadow king just yesterday I don’t remember how I ended up (0:18:55) Kev: it was a wiki hole and somehow I ended up well I don’t know too much about legion to be honest (0:19:00) Kev: but shadow king showing up threw me for a loop i’ll say that um I guess it makes sense because (0:19:05) Kev: he’s a telepath that’s probably the entirety of it um uh I will say um shadow king actually looks (0:19:05) Al: Yeah. (0:19:13) Kev: decent like they did a good job with how it looks. And Aubrey Plaza is sha- (0:19:18) Kev: I’m not okay when I read that. I was like, “Well, she’s possessed.” I know. Yeah. (0:19:20) Al: she’s yeah I don’t want to say too much because there’s some spoilers but yeah she is acting (0:19:26) Al: shadow king for some of it yeah it is she’s fantastic I mean she’s fantastic and everything (0:19:32) Al: I think I have never been disappointed by her and she does but it’s like such a different character (0:19:32) Kev: I was about to say that “yes” in everything. (0:19:39) Al: to other characters that she’s done like I know she does weird characters like that’s her thing (0:19:44) Kev: Yeah, I was about to she’s not her weird because she has the you know that very blasé face and a lot of the characters (0:19:44) Al: she does weird characters yeah no this is (0:19:50) Kev: They run into that, right? (0:19:50) Al: this is very much she turns up the evil rather than the weird right which is what you want from (0:19:54) Kev: That is yeah, yeah, that’s that’s interesting. I can’t remember the last time I saw replaza play, you know evil (0:20:02) Al: properly evil rather than just like accidentally evil. (0:20:03) Kev: but (0:20:06) Kev: Yeah, oh, yeah, yes, okay. Yes, that’s correct (0:20:10) Kev: Or let’s it may be malicious maybe not outright evil, but (0:20:13) Al: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, for sure. (0:20:14) Kev: But yeah, but yeah like a straight evil that’s that is fascinating but hey, but look (0:20:19) Al: Straight evil and nobody said straight. (0:20:22) Kev: Yeah (0:20:24) Kev: She’s um, I mean hey good good. She’s good. She’s a great actress though. Like everyone. I’ve seen her so I’m sure she kills it (0:20:31) Al: Yeah, no, she absolutely does. (0:20:32) Al: She kills, the role is fantastic, but other than, yeah, other than Legion and Shadow (0:20:40) Al: King, every other character is like an original character for the show, which is a little (0:20:44) Kev: Okay, what about not even Charles like cuz that’s (0:20:46) Al: bit weird. (0:20:48) Al: He is, he’s hinted at, but he’s never explicitly said. (0:20:52) Kev: Okay as about this like I I don’t (0:20:54) Kev: Okay, cuz I don’t expect them on screen, but you know that’s kind of a fundamental part of Legion’s characters (0:21:01) Al: So I think they can. (0:21:02) Al: They kind of hint at the fact at some point they hint about his dad being a telepath and they have like a cartoon drawing of who is clearly Charles Xavier, obviously, but it’s just like it’s hinted at, he has never explicitly said. (0:21:17) Kev: Okay (0:21:20) Al: said. (0:21:21) Kev: Okay, so okay (0:21:24) Kev: Two questions one do they ever I’m assuming they don’t have the really stupid Legion here that you see in the comics (0:21:31) Kev: But do they ever make a joke about it? (0:21:32) Al: No, I haven’t, I haven’t noticed anything I like that he has. (0:21:33) Kev: Yeah (0:21:36) Kev: Okay, darn it (0:21:36) Al: I mean, his hair is kind of, yeah, I mean, it kind of sticks up in some way, (0:21:41) Kev: It’s vertical (0:21:42) Al: but it’s not, yeah, it’s not as tall. (0:21:44) Al: It’s nowhere near, it’s like, it looks like a normal, like a possible (0:21:47) Kev: Okay, it’s a plausible hairstyle, okay (0:21:48) Al: realistic hairstyle that is an homage to it, I think they do. (0:21:51) Kev: Okay, so they translated it. Okay. I see. All right. Okay, because yeah, his comics hair is ridiculous. It’s like taller than his head (0:21:57) Al: Yeah. (0:21:59) Al: Yeah. (0:22:02) Kev: Okay, the other question (0:22:04) Kev: how is the (0:22:06) Kev: Multiple personality stuff done right because the bar is now set at moonlight, right? How is how do (0:22:11) Al: So, the interesting thing, so I’m finished season two, and I’ve got one season left to (0:22:17) Al: go, the up until the end of season two, they don’t touch on the multiple personalities (0:22:26) Al: very much. (0:22:26) Kev: What? (0:22:26) Al: Obviously, they’d know, let me finish, let me finish, because up until that point, he’s (0:22:33) Al: almost, he’s not quite sure of what his deal is, right? (0:22:41) Al: He starts off the series being diagnosed with schizophrenia in a mental hospital, and then (0:22:48) Al: gets out of the hospital and is like, “Oh, I wasn’t mentally ill, I was just a powerful (0:22:53) Al: mutant and people didn’t understand that.” (0:22:57) Al: And by the end of season two, they’re like, “No, no, you’re not, it’s not that you’re (0:23:02) Al: not mentally ill, it’s that you’re both.” (0:23:06) Al: So that’s how they finish the second season. (0:23:09) Kev: OK. (0:23:11) Al: Up until the last episode of season two, they’ve done a thing where he’s got voices (0:23:19) Al: talking to him, but until the last episode of season two, they don’t do explicitly his (0:23:25) Al: different personalities talking to each other. (0:23:28) Kev: Okay. Well, yeah, towards. Yeah. Okay. (0:23:28) Al: So they’ve not done that very much. (0:23:32) Al: With Moon Knight, his personalities don’t talk to each other, right? (0:23:36) Al: that is dissociative. And I know that I know that legions meant to be dissociative. (0:23:41) Al: But they do seem to be talking to each other, which is interesting. (0:23:46) Al: So it’s very different from how “Moonlight” works. (0:23:51) Al: And this is probably one of these things where this is not at all what it’s like in real life, (0:23:54) Al: and I understand that, I’m not trying to say. (0:23:55) Kev: oh yeah oh yeah for sure like I have even less expectations of legion in that end because legion (0:24:03) Kev: is so over the top with everything he’s got going on so yeah okay so uh-huh okay (0:24:06) Al: It’s, yeah, it’s very much more towards schizophrenia rather than DID, because it’s like, it’s framed (0:24:16) Al: as voices talking to him in his head, and he talks back to them. And then, yeah, so (0:24:21) Al: are we interested to see what they do in season three with it? Because he’s now kind of like (0:24:26) Al: realized this and like, everybody else realizes it. And he’s kind of like moving towards a (0:24:30) Al: kind of almost villain arc, but it will be interesting to see where they take that because (0:24:34) Kev: Ah. (0:24:35) Al: ‘cause obviously he’s a complicated– (0:24:37) Al: –character who, you know, yeah. (0:24:37) Kev: Whoops. (0:24:38) Kev: Oh, just a little. (0:24:41) Al: So it’ll be interesting to see where they end up, but I’ve enjoyed it so far. (0:24:41) Kev: Just a little. (0:24:43) Kev: OK. (0:24:45) Kev: Well, that’s great. (0:24:45) Al: But yeah, it’s been very weird. (0:24:46) Al: It’s like there’s a character that’s clearly meant to be kind of like rogue, (0:24:52) Al: but not really, in that if she touches someone, she swaps bodies with them. (0:24:54) Kev: Mmm (0:24:58) Kev: Her name is bros not rogue (0:25:01) Al: No, it’s not. (0:25:02) Al: It’s Sydney. (0:25:02) Al: But no, instead of like stealing someone’s power, she literally swaps bodies. (0:25:03) Kev: Okay (0:25:05) Kev: Yeah, that’s that’s pretty cool (0:25:06) Al: With them is interesting, and they’ve very much gone in a dark way with this, rather like, you know, there’s a like, we go into her, her childhood and there’s some like really not great moments where she realizes she can do this and. (0:25:21) Kev: No, I’m sure. Oh, oh gosh. There’s a lot of bad places you can go with that. Oh, that’s not great. Oh (0:25:28) Al: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m not going to talk about them on the podcast, but I mean, I might, if you’re if you’re not going to watch it, I might tell you one of them after the podcast because it. (0:25:32) Kev: Sure, but (0:25:36) Kev: Dude I can already take a guess but do tell like mmm (0:25:37) Al: I don’t think that particularly got me. (0:25:40) Al: After the podcast. (0:25:40) Kev: Y’all you could you can yeah there is room to work with there. Absolutely (0:25:46) Al: But yeah, so everyone else, including her are like, as far as I can tell, unique characters, because I was like, I don’t recognize these characters and I went on to Wikipedia and they’re not like. (0:25:58) Al: Legion is linked as the Marvel Legion, and then obviously Shadow King is linked as Shadow King, the Marvel Shadow King and all the other ones, they’re just. (0:26:02) Kev: Yeah, no. (0:26:06) Al: So and so, as this character name, and there’s no like link to a Marvel equivalent for them, so I’m assuming they’re all original characters. (0:26:12) Kev: Uh-huh (0:26:15) Kev: Sure, sure. Okay. Okay. Well (0:26:17) Al: They also have Jermaine Clement. I don’t know if you know who I who I’m talking about. (0:26:21) Kev: That name sounds familiar, let me see. Ah, okay, okay (0:26:22) Al: He was a flight, one of the flight of the concords. No flight of the concords? Yeah, he’s excellent in it as well. So yeah, no, it’s very good. I’m enjoying it and I’m looking forward to season three. (0:26:36) Al: But I’m still finished by the time you hear this episode because I’m going to watch it this week. I’ve only got eight episodes left to go. (0:26:42) Kev: it is it’s such a fascinating thing right because he’s I mean Legion is he is a (0:26:50) Kev: character of some note but not like you know he’s not an A-lister to name in the (0:26:57) Kev: Marvel verse let’s say that right but here they are making a spin a show (0:27:04) Kev: entirely centered or out to him without any of the other Marvel connections so (0:27:09) Kev: So when you hear that, it’s such an interesting practice. (0:27:12) Kev: It’s very cool that they managed to do good with it. (0:27:14) Kev: I have heard good things about it. (0:27:18) Al: Maybe. Yeah, so that’s mostly what I’ve been up to that I haven’t talked about on other episodes. (0:27:26) Kev: All right, cool (0:27:27) Al: Shall we talk about what games we are most looking forward to in 2025? (0:27:34) Kev: “Wildflowers 2” which might be announced by the time this comes out. (0:27:38) Kev: I don’t know. (0:27:39) Al: Oh yeah, they’ve hinted at something coming, haven’t they? (0:27:42) Kev: Yeah, I think it’s coming out. (0:27:44) Kev: So I don’t remember any dates or anything, but that may actually be announced by the (0:27:49) Kev: time this comes out. (0:27:50) Al: Yeah, so I know. (0:27:51) Kev: That may not be a joke. (0:27:53) Al: I know that so I I sent you a link, didn’t I? (0:27:56) Al: Yes, here it was. (0:27:57) Al: So they’re announcing something in the wholesome snack, (0:28:00) Al: which as we’re recording, it’s happening in three days. (0:28:04) Kev: Oh, great. Wildflowers 2 is going to be announced in three days, and I’m not for– (0:28:05) Al: So. (0:28:09) Kev: I can’t confirm it, because I don’t actually know at the time of the recording. (0:28:14) Al: Like, have they hinted towards there being a Wildflowers, too, and it’s not just (0:28:17) Kev: No, okay. That’s me just being hyperbolic. I don’t know, but it’s Drydock Studios. (0:28:22) Kev: It’s from their account, isn’t it? The Wildflowers account, so… (0:28:26) Kev: I don’t know. Who knows? It could be. That would be my hope, of course. Maybe with a different art (0:28:31) Kev: style but you never know um who knows what it’ll be (0:28:35) Kev: um i’ve got my eye on it though for sure though so we’ll see (0:28:37) Al: You’ll play whatever they make, basically, is what you’re saying. (0:28:41) Kev: yeah basically (0:28:44) Al: OK, cool. So we’re going to go through. We’ve each got a list, presumably. (0:28:48) Al: I can’t see Kevin’s list, but presumably we both have a list. (0:28:52) Al: I think what we’ve previously done is talk through one each. (0:28:59) Al: I just kind of go alternately and we’ll talk through our opinions on why we’re looking (0:29:05) Al: looking forward to it, et cetera. (0:29:10) Kev: I am where I cannot find my list I do right if you have a big you had a big list on you (0:29:15) Kev: Where is it? Uh, hold on. Let me see. I’m trying to remember here. You need to go on in slack (0:29:22) Al: I don’t think I’ve posted a big long list of what’s coming out, but it should be on if you look on the notion, there’s a big long list. (0:29:23) Kev: You did yeah (0:29:34) Kev: Um, oh, here it is. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yes. Sorry. Okay. Yeah, I could not find it. Um, but alright, let’s uh, let’s um, yeah. Alright, you start it. (0:29:46) Al: All right, so my first one, and I feel like this has been on my list so many times, but (0:29:52) Al: that’s because I still haven’t properly played it. And that is Snacko because obviously Snacko (0:29:58) Al: is in early access. I haven’t played it yet because it’s been so busy. I think when it (0:30:04) Al: came out last year was a really bad time because it’s December and I’m not going to play a (0:30:08) Al: brand new farming game in December because I’m already like out of it. But. (0:30:16) Al: At some point this year, Snacko will release 1.0 unless something goes seriously wrong. (0:30:23) Al: Like they’ve posted their updated roadmap and it has four updates on it. And it sounds (0:30:29) Al: like they’re expecting that to be done kind of reasonably early next year. So I would (0:30:33) Al: be very surprised if Snacko 1.0 doesn’t come out. So I think that’s probably the thing (0:30:37) Al: I’m most looking forward to. (0:30:38) Kev: Yeah, yeah (0:30:42) Kev: All right, yeah, no, that’s fair like I (0:30:45) Kev: snako isn’t on my radar, but like I (0:30:49) Kev: this is one of those I’ve talked, you know ad nauseam like (0:30:53) Kev: Games that are in early access forever and then they get the 1.0 release like it’s uh (0:30:59) Kev: It’s I don’t know something almost perplexing unless they have a send some games do do it. We’re like a massive (0:31:06) Kev: Addition or patch change, right? (0:31:09) Kev: To list the features to 1.0 (0:31:12) Kev: But you know, we’ll see if it can’t drop. Hopefully it will drop (0:31:15) Kev: Um, I will say the art style still looks great. I will say that right like the pixel cap, but everything else is 3d (0:31:22) Al: Yeah (0:31:22) Kev: um (0:31:23) Al: They’ve they’ve done a lot of work as well (0:31:26) Al: So I’ve seen some recent screenshots and some screenshots from like when they first announced it and they’ve they’ve improved the graphics (0:31:34) Al: A huge amount while still feeling like it’s the same style, which is really impressive (0:31:40) Al: And it’s just I think the thing about snako is I have been talking about this game since we started the podcast. I’m pretty sure (0:31:46) Kev: Oh, that sounds about right. (0:31:48) Al: So, you know to to go that long (0:31:52) Al: I can’t even remember how long is it is this is this the end of year six or is this the end of you? (0:31:57) Al: I think it’s the end of year six in January. It will be six years of the podcast. So (0:32:02) Al: Yeah, just the idea of you know, I’ve been talking about this game for that long (0:32:07) Al: And I’m super excited to to finally properly played it. Obviously I played a (0:32:12) Al: demo (0:32:13) Al: Years ago now, but it’s obviously changed a huge amount since then (0:32:16) Kev: Yeah, that will be cool. Once it hits 1.0. I will say heck maybe even I’ll get on board at that point. I don’t know (0:32:26) Kev: But yeah, it’s uh (0:32:28) Kev: That’s good. Can you imagine that the finally that since it’s you finally get into it (0:32:35) Kev: I mean everything talking about it for this many years and finally we get 1.0 and you play the game proper (0:32:42) Kev: But yeah, all right, I’ll (0:32:45) Kev: I’ll, I’ll take the baton. (0:32:46) Kev: Um, my first pick, um, kind of like, I just talked about Snacko, but this is a similar boat where the game is already out, but I haven’t gotten to it. (0:32:58) Kev: And more importantly, it’s going to be the console release of Hello Kitty Island Adventure. (0:33:02) Kev: Um, ah, well, there you go. (0:33:02) Al: Ah that’s on my list as well. This I’m so excited for because yeah I really liked the game in (0:33:12) Al: general but I hated playing it on my iPad so I was like I played it as much as I needed to (0:33:18) Al: for the episode and went I will play this when it’s on something else because it is such a good (0:33:25) Al: game it is such it looks great it feels great everything about it is great I just did not want (0:33:31) Al: to do it on a touch screen! (0:33:32) Kev: It looks like it looks I know I say this knowing Hello Kitty is like one of the biggest franchises in the world just (0:33:43) Kev: monetary wise right but it looks so much better than what I expect it to be right because I’m not saying Hello Kitty is isn’t like it (0:33:52) Kev: doesn’t do quality stuff but it just does so much stuff right like it’s so everywhere that I’m just I don’t know and I don’t (0:34:00) Kev: expect, you know, super high (0:34:02) Kev: highs, let’s say that, right? But this looks incredible. Just everything going on. Like the (0:34:08) Kev: writing, you write minecarts in this game, it’s wild! And finding the Gudetama’s hidden around, (0:34:15) Kev: oh my, it just sounds incredible. And like, just the massive list of Sanrio characters. (0:34:24) Kev: Yeah, no, this, this, like ever since the, you guys talked about it on that one episode, I’ve been so (0:34:28) Kev: hype for it. You and Maddy talk about it. (0:34:32) Kev: This is probably number one, just because I mean, of course, like we know what it is more or less, right? It’s come out. (0:34:39) Kev: We know I know what to expect. So that’s probably why out of all the names here, it is the one I’m most looking forward to, I would say. (0:34:46) Al: Yeah, I wonder, here’s a question for you. (0:34:47) Kev: Yeah, good stuff. Yeah. (0:34:49) Al: Do you think this will be a Switch 2 launch title? (0:34:57) Al: So as of just now, we just know 2025 for Hello Kitty Island Adventure. (0:35:02) Al: We don’t know when in 2025 and also we’re expecting the Switch 2 to be released in (0:35:10) Al: 2025 and it was announced that it was coming to Switch. (0:35:17) Al: Or it was announced that it was coming to anything else (0:35:20) Kev: Yeah. Yeah. (0:35:21) Al: in a Nintendo Direct, you know, in 2024 this year, June 2024. (0:35:29) Al: You know for a fact that if the Switch 2 is coming out next year, (0:35:33) Al: there are developers that have a version to build against an SDK, right? (0:35:40) Al: You know for a fact that there are games (0:35:41) Al: companies that have that because there’s no way they would release the game (0:35:46) Al: Switch exclusives and this feels like it could be something, right? (0:35:51) Al: Like, do you know? (0:35:52) Kev: fact that it’s already have you know it’s already out right it’s it’s just a port as opposed to ground-up game doesn’t make it a (0:35:58) Al: Exactly, yeah. (0:35:59) Kev: Lot more likely um I I don’t know how strong lead field I’ll say it’s greater than 50% chance. It’ll be a launch title (0:36:06) Al: It’s the fact that we still don’t–it’s been six months, and we still don’t know when it’s (0:36:08) Kev: You know I don’t know (0:36:12) Al: coming out next year, you know? And there were many–like, the general assumption is (0:36:13) Kev: Yeah, you know what that’s that’s fair um (0:36:16) Kev: Umm… (0:36:22) Al: that the Switch 2 release announcement was delayed from September. So June to September (0:36:30) Kev: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah (0:36:31) Al: could be a sort of expected timeline between announcement and date. Don’t know. (0:36:54) Al: Yeah, it will be backwards compatible, but I will say, and this is the thing that people (0:36:58) Al: keep getting wrong, backwards compatible does not mean it will run better on the Switch (0:37:02) Al: 2, necessarily. That’s not how these things work, right? (0:37:04) Kev: No, you’re right, I’m not saying, you know what, that’s a good point. (0:37:10) Kev: Yeah, no, you’re right. (0:37:10) Al: So if they make, because it’s the same thing with PS4 versions on a PS5, do not run better (0:37:16) Al: than on a PS4. Well, not better than a PS4 Pro. They do run better than a PS4, but they (0:37:21) Al: don’t run better than a PS4 Pro (0:37:24) Al: They’re not compiled for the PS5, they’re compiled for the PS4 and PS4 Pro (0:37:29) Al: and then they also work on the PS5 and so like when we got, I remember when I first got a PS5 (0:37:36) Al: Fall Guys was just the PS4 version and then like a year later they released the PS5 version and it (0:37:39) Kev: yeah (0:37:43) Kev: um really oh wow I didn’t try on the ps5 i’ll have to try that (0:37:48) Kev: um (0:37:48) Al: With your ps5 that’s just sitting in the corner (0:37:51) Kev: that’s cool look ps5 was my zen the zone zero machine (0:37:56) Al: Would you have a ps5? Oh, I didn’t know that fair enough (0:37:57) Kev: it was stupid oh yeah I do (0:38:01) Kev: yeah yeah yeah I like I use it it’s not just even the ps5 like in general my playstation or (0:38:08) Kev: or non-Nintendo consoles are– (0:38:09) Kev: get used just from a handful of games, right? (0:38:11) Al: » Yeah. (0:38:11) Kev: Like, they’re games, I want them, right? (0:38:12) Al: Same. (0:38:14) Kev: Like, it’s my Street Fighter machine, (0:38:16) Kev: it’s my Send the Zone Zero machine. (0:38:18) Kev: Now my Mar– well, actually, no, (0:38:19) Kev: I’m not even playing Marvel, (0:38:20) Kev: I’m playing Marvel, I was on Steam, (0:38:21) Kev: Calvin got the– (0:38:23) Kev: ‘cause Calvin was a big Overwatch fan, too, (0:38:25) Kev: so we’re both hyped about it, (0:38:26) Kev: so I was like, okay, you know what? (0:38:27) Kev: I have a computer that can run it, (0:38:29) Kev: I’ll run Marvel, I was on Steam, (0:38:31) Kev: you play on the PlayStation, (0:38:32) Kev: and that’s how we split it up. (0:38:33) Kev: But anyways, but there’s another– (0:38:36) Kev: yeah, Fall Guys, right? (0:38:40) Kev: I probably won’t try it, actually, (0:38:41) Kev: ‘cause I don’t have too much other stuff. (0:38:44) Al: I still love fall guys. It’s great. I don’t play as much as I used to, but I still, it’s (0:38:46) Kev: Oh, yeah, Fall Guys is excellent, (0:38:48) Al: a good fun, good. They they’ve been adding, they’ve been adding loads of great, uh, what’s (0:38:49) Kev: like, there is no denying that, (0:38:51) Kev: they knocked that out of the park. (0:38:52) Kev: I wonder how far it’s come. (0:38:53) Kev: Oh, now I’m curious, maybe I will. (0:38:58) Al: the word I’m looking for? Um, skins. And I really like how they’ve been doing the skins (0:39:04) Al: in that you can quite often get a lot of skins for free. Um, so there’s, there’s a, they (0:39:09) Al: They have a, okay, okay, here’s what I really love about what they’ve been doing. (0:39:14) Al: They have a premium pass, or what do you call it, a ladder, or whatever it is you (0:39:20) Al: call it. (0:39:21) Al: I can’t never remember the terminology these games use. (0:39:24) Al: The battle pass, yeah, sure. (0:39:24) Kev: Battle pass, season pass, I don’t know. (0:39:26) Kev: Yeah. (0:39:26) Al: Season pass. (0:39:27) Al: There we go. (0:39:28) Al: Season pass. (0:39:29) Al: They’ve got a season pass. (0:39:30) Al: But the season pass gives you back the currency that you use to buy the season pass. (0:39:38) Kev: Okay (0:39:38) Al: So if you reach level 40 in the season pass, you have a sentry. (0:39:42) Kev: Yeah (0:39:44) Al: Eventually, refunded your season pass. (0:39:47) Kev: You have the next one free which is always great, yeah (0:39:48) Al: Exactly, so if you’re playing it regularly, you can get so much stuff without actually (0:39:55) Al: having to pay except that first payment, which is really good. (0:39:58) Kev: Yeah, yeah (0:40:00) Al: And they have like a whole bunch of bundles where it’s like, here’s a bunch of skins and (0:40:03) Al: the currency that you use to buy the battle pass. (0:40:04) Kev: Yeah, yeah (0:40:06) Al: So I think, obviously, it still is shoving these things in your face a lot and there’s (0:40:11) Al: a lot of stuff you can’t get without paying. (0:40:14) Kev: Yeah. (0:40:14) Al: You’re exclusive to pay money, pay 20 quid, and you’ll get these skins, but that’s fine. (0:40:20) Al: It’s skins. (0:40:21) Al: Who cares? (0:40:22) Al: You know. (0:40:24) Kev: yeah yeah yeah exactly right at the end of the day even if you don’t care like the game’s (0:40:27) Kev: free and you can still play and it’s entertaining on its own right absolutely um yeah no um so so (0:40:29) Al: Exactly, but my other point about Hello Kitty is they are releasing on PS4 and PS5, they’ve (0:40:35) Kev: there you go fall guys one of my most anticipated 2020 (0:40:44) Al: exclusively said that, so it’s not like they aren’t known to release on two generations (0:40:48) Kev: Yeah, yeah, that’s great. Oh, so there you go. Maybe we’ll get (0:40:49) Al: of the same console at the same time. (0:40:56) Kev: That’s switch to version after all then the ounces (0:41:00) Al: we’re getting close to the point where we’re going to know when the switch is coming out and we’re (0:41:04) Al: going to get the first indications of what the launch titles are. Obviously there will be some (0:41:10) Al: Nintendo stuff but there’s going to be some third-party stuff as well and I would not be surprised if (0:41:15) Al: this is one of them. All right my second one, I guess, I mean my third one was Hello Kitty (0:41:16) Kev: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, you know, yeah, I could see it. Um, okay. Okay, go ahead. Yeah. (0:41:27) Al: island adventure as well. So how many more do you have? (0:41:28) Kev: All right. Oh, god. I, wait, how many do you have? I’ll just try to match you, because I’m, I’m… (0:41:30) Al: For organizing this. I have four in total, but that included Hello Kitty. But if you have four. (0:41:38) Kev: Oh, oh, well, I could probably go, I could probably do… (0:41:42) Kev: We’ll see. I’ll see. I’m going down the list. Just double check again. (0:41:44) Al: You do another one, do another one now, then because I’ve just (0:41:47) Kev: Okay. All right. Well, first of all, stop the presses. Sorry, as I’ve been double checking all these things, I’ve been in double checking trailers. (0:41:47) Al: done alligator as well. So what’s your, what’s your next one? (0:41:56) Kev: There’s Professor Layton got an out. This is neither here nor there. This might be for the greenhouse. This is Professor Layton. Oh, my gosh. Anyways, okay. (0:42:05) Kev: Okay, here’s one. I’m going to say this not because I (0:42:13) Kev: I might not play it, but I’m just so… (0:42:16) Kev: …curious about it? (0:42:19) Kev: Uh, WANDERSTOP? (0:42:21) Kev: Because that’s the one by the Stanley Parable guy, right? (0:42:25) Kev: And it’s, like, such a wild departure from that. (0:42:30) Kev: I’m… I just wonder what it’s gonna look like, right? (0:42:33) Kev: And, like, we have a trailer, and the game looks fine and whatnot. (0:42:36) Kev: Um, it just looks like a straight, you know, straight-shooting, cozy-type game. (0:42:41) Kev: But, um, so, you know, I don’t know if it’s gonna bring anything super new, but… (0:42:46) Kev: Just the history of that developer really has me wondering what that’s gonna look like. (0:42:50) Kev: Because I’m not expecting there to be some weird Stanley Parable-esque twist, (0:42:57) Kev: but at the same time, I don’t know, maybe? (0:43:00) Al: I don’t expect it to be like a meta-commentary on games the way that Stanley Parable was, (0:43:01) Kev: Like… (0:43:05) Kev: Yeah, yeah. (0:43:06) Al: but I will say that it’s describing itself as a narrative-centric cosy game about change and T. (0:43:12) Kev: Uh-huh. (0:43:13) Al: I feel like it’s going to do something interesting, and that’s not going to be a really boring story. (0:43:16) Kev: » Yeah, it might. (0:43:21) Al: It’s going to be hard-hitting in some kind of way, like I don’t think they would make it (0:43:26) Al: just to make a cosy game. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was… (0:43:30) Al: Maybe a meta-commentary on coziness or something like that, you know, like I could see them (0:43:36) Al: like completely appending what you would expect from a cosy game. (0:43:40) Kev: Yeah, yeah, I I could see that absolutely (0:43:45) Kev: Yeah, so you know like I don’t know if I will get to it (0:43:49) Kev: Maybe it drops out and it’s amazing, but it certainly has grabbed my attention. I’ll say that (0:43:53) Kev: that. (0:43:54) Al: it will, even if you don’t play it, you’ll find out a lot about it because this is going (0:43:58) Al: to be talked about. You know, like the same way that the Stanley Parable was talked about (0:44:00) Kev: Oh, oh, absolutely, right? Like, oh, I’m sure, right. I mean, just having that pedigree alone, like, it’s gonna get talked about, absolutely. (0:44:14) Al: I just noticed the music is done by C418, the guy who did Minecraft music. (0:44:18) Kev: Oh, what? (0:44:20) Kev: Minecraft guy, yeah. Oh, I’m like, ooh. Ooh, that’s, that’s strong. That’s good music. Oh. (0:44:20) Al: » Yeah. (0:44:26) Kev: Um, alright, well, that was an honorable mention, but here, let me, uh, let me- (0:44:30) Kev: I can actually throw one. I probably will play, um, “Tales of Sekyu”? I think that’s how you pronounce it. (0:44:36) Al: say yeah I can I who knows yeah (0:44:38) Kev: I think so. Um, okay. (0:44:44) Kev: Uh, so there is, um, so it is a, you know, it’s- (0:44:50) Kev: What’s the premise? It’s- it’s farming, but it’s yokai. (0:44:51) Al: Jokai. Farming, but Jokai, yep. That’s a perfect explanation of it, really. (0:44:54) Kev: Farming but yokai, right

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Cours Halakha Time du Mercredi 4 Décembre 2024 (durée : 5 minutes) donné par Rav Emmanuel BENSIMON.

Cours Halakha Time du Mercredi 4 Décembre 2024 (durée : 5 minutes) donné par Rav Emmanuel BENSIMON.

Fazlasıyla hareketli yapay zeka gündemi ile ilgili son gelişmeler, meslekleri değiştiren, bitiren uygulamalar, hizmetler, hepsini anlatmaya çalıştık. Yapay zeka dünyasında size klavuz olmaya çalıştığımız programımız her hafta Cuma günleri yayında. Bu hafta konuştuğumuz bazı konu başlıkları; - Loong video oluşturma - Adobe'nin yeni tanıttığı yapay zeka destekli uygulamalar - Elon Musk'ın 100 bin işlemcili veri merkezi - Google'ın nükleer santral yatırımları - RemSpace isimli şirketin, kişilerin aynı rüyanın içerisinde olabileceğini iddia ettiği bir teknoloji geliştirilmesi ve bunun sonuçları - Fizik ve Kimya Nobel ödüllerinin yapay zeka alanında yapılan çalışmalara verilmesi - Yapay zeka dünyasıyla ilgili iki kitap tanıtımı - 2027 yılında yaşanması beklenen yapay zekanın zeka patlaması ve sonuçları #yapayzeka #zekapatlaması #nükleersantral

November 8, 2024 Yasha'yah / Isaiah 63:1-5 - Yada reads his latest work in his soon to be updated book; Yada Yahowah Series, Vol 5. For now, follow along with Isaiah and Yada here: https://yadayah.com/Books/An-Introduction-to-God/Volume-1/Chapter04.html?nonav&jmp=pnum442 Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company.

Do you know God? Scriptures teaches us that there is more to knowing about God than meets the eye. Pastor Ian Thornton unravels the Hebrew word "Yada" which means "to know," and walk us through the various layers of this word and how it pertains to our relationship with God. Join us as we dive into this beautiful picture of how to step into knowing the Lord deeper! Big House Church is cultivating a community of passionate worshippers who partner with Jesus to create a kingdom culture on earth as it is in heaven. We regularly meet on Sundays @ 9 & 11 AM at the Zeider Theater in Town Center Virginia Beach.Learn more at www.bighousechurch.com.

Do you know God? Scriptures teaches us that there is more to knowing about God than meets the eye. Pastor Ian Thornton unravels the Hebrew word "Yada" which means "to know," and walk us through the various layers of this word and how it pertains to our relationship with God. Join us as we dive into this beautiful picture of how to step into knowing the Lord deeper! Big House Church is cultivating a community of passionate worshippers who partner with Jesus to create a kingdom culture on earth as it is in heaven. We regularly meet on Sundays @ 9 & 11 AM at the Zeider Theater in Town Center Virginia Beach.Learn more at www.bighousechurch.com.

Codey and Kevin talk about Township Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:02:17: What Have We Been Up To 00:16:25: News 00:40:52: New Games 00:52:11: Township 01:16:21: Outro Links Research Story “0.10” Update Horticular “1.1” Update My Time at Sandrock “1.4” Update Winds of Anthos DLC Delay Moonstone Island’s Fishbo now in Coromon Super Zoo Story Kickstarter Gaucho and the Grassland Cattle Country Forgotten Waters Contact Al on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheScotBot Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Kev: Hello farmers and welcome to another episode of the harvest season. My name is Kevin (0:00:36) Codey: and my name is Cody. (0:00:38) Kev: And we are here to talk about cottagecore games whoo (0:00:44) Codey: are we here to talk about cozy games I just wanted to to trigger al a little bit (0:00:46) Kev: I hope not (0:00:52) Kev: I’m triggered (0:00:54) Kev: Doesn’t sound like coat. It doesn’t sound like a cozy game from what you’ve described sounds like an addiction (0:01:00) Kev: Stop welcome (0:01:02) Codey: a plague that needs to be released (0:01:04) Kev: Welcome to the the township intervention of podie today everyone (0:01:10) Codey: yeah for sure (0:01:14) Codey: I played Township, and when we needed a topic on a dime, I was like, “Can we please cover this game so I can uninstall it?” (0:01:25) Kev: Yeah, I mean, yeah, oh, yeah (0:01:28) Kev: if people only knew like it was like I (0:01:33) Kev: Mean first of all, I guess supposed to do an episode out and we had a pivot like twice and then he grew sick (0:01:39) Kev: It’s how the Cody had to join and then we had to pivot with that (0:01:41) Codey: He was very ill, yeah. (0:01:44) Codey: Oh yeah, we had to pivot. (0:01:45) Codey: I had a small breakdown because of personal reasons, (0:01:49) Codey: but I am here and I am queer. (0:01:50) Kev: » Yeah. Yeah, we’ll get to there after we talk about. (0:01:53) Codey: Okay, so township episode, that’s what today is. (0:01:58) Codey: And that’s what today is. (0:02:08) Kev: I don’t I don’t know if I’ll even I don’t recall if I’ll says it but we’ve got the you know how it works folks (0:02:14) Kev: We got the show notes. You got the transcript on the website all those good things (0:02:18) Kev: And speaking of good things. Hopefully what have you been up to Cody? (0:02:18) Codey: yeah. I have been getting healing from tearing my calf muscle. Yeah so I tore (0:02:30) Kev: Oh, oh, that’s not great. (0:02:34) Codey: my calf muscle. It is, at least it wasn’t the Achilles. We initially thought it was (0:02:41) Codey: the Achilles but it was not that. So tore that and then… (0:02:48) Codey: I am in physical therapy now and it’s honestly already so much better so it did (0:02:52) Codey: not it did not slow me down y’all. Last week, sorry what? I tried to run for four (0:02:54) Kev: That’s great. How did the tearing occur? (0:03:01) Codey: whole seconds. I ran for four seconds and I tore my calf muscle. And this kids is (0:03:08) Kev: just (0:03:09) Kev: immediate collapse (0:03:10) Codey: why you don’t exercise. No. I am a super clumsy human and super oxidized. (0:03:11) Kev: But. (0:03:18) Codey: I had a mini meltdown because I did not want to go through that again but it was (0:03:32) Codey: not it is thankfully not that it was just a calf muscle and it cannot keep me (0:03:36) Codey: down. I am already out of the boot. I’m already doing stuff though the the (0:03:40) Kev: Yeah, that’s great. (0:03:42) Codey: physical therapist today had me do lunges for a whole minute and I had to (0:03:48) Codey: go. I kept trying to go and she was like girl no you’re done like stop she’s (0:03:53) Kev: I’m going to tear it again. (0:03:53) Codey: like yeah basically she’s like you’re pushing yourself too hard and I was like (0:03:58) Codey: I should be able to do this and she was like girl no to come back next week. They (0:04:04) Kev: Silence. (0:04:04) Codey: love me there because they know me if they remember me from my ACL tear and (0:04:08) Codey: how like they would say like okay you can stop at 10 and I’d be like I’m gonna (0:04:14) Codey: to do 20, or like they would put (0:04:18) Codey: the weight on like 30 pounds or something. (0:04:20) Codey: And then they’d come back and they were like, did you make, (0:04:22) Codey: did you up the weight? (0:04:23) Codey: And I was like, 30 was too light. (0:04:26) Codey: I wanted 40. (0:04:30) Codey: So they’re, they’re very aware that they need to like reel me in. (0:04:34) Codey: Um, so that was the big thing two weeks ago. (0:04:37) Codey: And then last week I was at the B lab down in Maryland. (0:04:42) Codey: So there’s a gentleman down there who is the B God of the East coast. (0:04:48) Codey: And pretty much any B and he can identify it for you and tell you all about its (0:04:50) Kev: Yeah, I remember we talked about this (0:04:51) Codey: national history. Yeah, he is amazing and he’s so sweet. (0:04:54) Codey: And so we went down to have him identify some of our bees. Um, and I, (0:04:59) Codey: and when we go down, (0:05:00) Codey: he doesn’t accept payment because he’s he works for the government. (0:05:04) Codey: So he like can’t accept payment and he also can’t be on (0:05:09) Codey: like a, he can’t be an author on papers. It’s like too difficult for him. (0:05:13) Codey: He doesn’t want to. So usually when we go down to do stuff like that, (0:05:18) Codey: and he identifies things for us, we just do things for them. (0:05:21) Codey: So they basically had a bunch of bees that needed to be organized. (0:05:24) Codey: So we did that. It was very interesting. Unfortunately, (0:05:27) Codey: he got COVID very quickly into us being there while we were there. (0:05:32) Codey: He liked by the second day, he was very ill. (0:05:36) Codey: So we didn’t see him anymore. (0:05:37) Codey: And he still has our bees because he was not able to do them. (0:05:41) Codey: And I hope honestly that he as well, I actually have not asked for an update. (0:05:45) Kev: Wop wop, that’s rough. (0:05:46) Codey: I need to do that. (0:05:48) Codey: But I mean, we still did our part and so now we’re just waiting and now I’m (0:05:53) Codey: back and I am ready to hit the ground running with my research and stuff and (0:05:58) Codey: continuing to play Coral Island. Yeah, no, I’m not. I’m not gonna run literally for (0:06:00) Kev: Figuratively, please don’t run from the literally (0:06:05) Codey: a while. Still playing Coral Island and I am now, I have upgraded my home to the (0:06:14) Codey: max level. And I am I have proposed (0:06:18) Codey: to Scott once. Um, and he said no. So he said no. So I tried to propose to him one (0:06:22) Kev: Wait, they can say “no”? (0:06:25) Kev: Whoa. (0:06:28) Codey: day and he was in the thing was like, your house is in big enough. And so I was like, (0:06:31) Codey: okay, so I went and like updated my house. No, no, no, no. No, I upgraded my house and (0:06:32) Kev: Oh, that’s why. Oh, that’s how it is. (0:06:36) Codey: then I went back and he was like, you know, I’m just not ready to take that next step (0:06:39) Codey: with you. And I’m like, boy, you have 10, we have 10 hearts. Like I don’t know what (0:06:46) Codey: you want. (0:06:48) Codey: I tried to give him the diamond and everything and the diamond ring and he was just like “Nah.” (0:06:54) Codey: So I don’t know if there’s this magical other thing that happens or something. (0:06:58) Codey: So I’m just still throwing fossils at him and hugging him whenever I can and taking him on dates. (0:07:04) Kev: is diamond to your face! (0:07:08) Codey: I don’t know if I have to ask him at a certain point because then I went to the cavern recently and he was there. (0:07:16) Codey: And he was just like I… (0:07:18) Codey: just I always feel like magical when you’re here in the cavern with me and I (0:07:21) Codey: was like oh am I supposed to propose to you in the cavern so or or maybe in the (0:07:25) Kev: Oh? Oh? (0:07:27) Codey: museum I don’t know maybe he just didn’t want it under that tree with the doctor (0:07:31) Codey: watching so (0:07:32) Kev: you know what that would be that would be that’s actually kind of cool if it’s (0:07:36) Codey: a little awkward (0:07:39) Kev: like a location requirement or whatever right to be meaningful or special (0:07:41) Codey: yeah oh and I have also made it to the Savannah now (0:07:48) Codey: but fun fact you make it to the Savannah and then before you can enter the cave (0:07:53) Codey: of memories you actually have to like do another thing so I’m just perpetually (0:08:02) Codey: fighting these quests and these thresholds but I’m gonna get there I’m (0:08:06) Codey: still motivated to get there I’m still enjoying myself what about you Kev so (0:08:12) Kev: Sick what wait? I’m just think what it what is (0:08:18) Codey: memories there’s a couple other animals that unlock once you get to the Savannah (0:08:23) Codey: there was like ostriches there and there’s like some kind of kind of (0:08:26) Codey: buffalo and some other stuff I don’t know if you have to go to a certain (0:08:29) Codey: person there’s not a map and the fun thing about the cloud gaming servers is (0:08:40) Codey: sometimes if you do too much in a day it it protests and it just erases all of (0:08:48) Codey: the progress for the day so I have lost I’ve like and usually I’ll play for like (0:08:49) Kev: Oh, that’s great. (0:08:55) Codey: an hour hour and a half and then I hit the point where it like I it’s like (0:08:59) Codey: saving the game day or whatever and it says saving game and then it just like (0:09:04) Codey: shuts down and is like lost connection to the server and then when I start it (0:09:08) Codey: back up it just goes straight to the like loading up and it has to it starts (0:09:14) Codey: the day all over. So whenever, whenever I do something new (0:09:18) Codey: I usually like go like with the Savannah. I went to the (0:09:22) Codey: Savannah. I like progressed the quest for the Giants and then I (0:09:27) Codey: was like, this is not I like basically stood on the cliff (0:09:30) Codey: overseeing the Savannah and I was like, oh, this looks really (0:09:32) Codey: nice and then I went home and ended the day at 7 AM because I (0:09:36) Kev: Ha ha ha ha! (0:09:37) Codey: was like, I don’t want to do anything else today. I just (0:09:41) Kev: Sick. (0:09:43) Codey: want this to make sure that it saves the fact that I got to (0:09:46) Codey: to the Savannah. (0:09:48) Codey: Man, I have not attempted that, maybe I can, maybe I should try that, but I just always (0:09:50) Kev: Can you not save without the sleeping part? (0:10:01) Codey: go home and sleep. (0:10:03) Codey: I’m also at the point where, sorry this is suddenly coral island cast, I’m at the point (0:10:09) Codey: where I have the computer and all of the upgrades and so I can look whenever there’s, I can (0:10:13) Codey: look and see what insects are spawning, what critter ocean critters are spawning, and what (0:10:18) Codey: I don’t have in the museum, I can find it, but I’m in the middle of Spermanir, the end (0:10:24) Codey: of spring now I guess, and I’ve caught all of the spring stuff. (0:10:28) Codey: So I am kind of like almost at the point literally of just like starting the game, ending the (0:10:33) Codey: day. (0:10:34) Codey: Starting the day, ending the day to like get through spring because I just want to be in (0:10:36) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:10:38) Codey: summer so I can start getting the summer stuff. (0:10:42) Kev: Mm-hmm can’t can’t change that DS clock. Oh, I know crossing (0:10:46) Codey: No, I’m not going to do that, I would just start day and do. (0:10:51) Kev: Yeah, oh man good times good times (0:10:54) Codey: But what are you up to? (0:10:57) Kev: Oh (0:10:58) Kev: for (0:11:00) Kev: I actually I was somewhat ill last week and I just (0:11:06) Kev: You may hear me coughing due to it, but just a heads up for folks (0:11:11) Kev: Thank you bees. I consumed much honey during the recovery period so you know they helped (0:11:18) Kev: As I am (0:11:19) Kev: These cool (0:11:21) Kev: But when I do game the brief moments, I mean it’s it’s all (0:11:26) Kev: Right now. I’m in a very much like (0:11:29) Kev: I’m doing my dailies sort of thing for different games right like I’m not I (0:11:34) Kev: I don’t have… I think mostly the (0:11:36) Kev: time I would say to dedicate to a big (0:11:39) Kev: venture trying to clear stuff or (0:11:41) Kev: whatever so a lot of grindy mindless (0:11:44) Kev: stuff that’s fun for me right that’s (0:11:47) Kev: stuff like Marvel snap Pokemon unite (0:11:51) Kev: probably the biggest time sink is still (0:11:54) Kev: zenless zone zero are you familiar with (0:11:57) Kev: that one Cody okay so well I think I’ll (0:11:58) Codey: I am not, what is that? (0:12:02) Kev: talk about it here but brief recap for (0:12:07) Kev: it is a mi hoyo game which is the (0:12:09) Kev: genshin impact company so it is it is a (0:12:14) Kev: gotcha game much like genshin impact (0:12:17) Kev: and their other one honkai but this one (0:12:20) Kev: is a while genshin is kind of like (0:12:22) Kev: breath of the wild the honkai is a turn (0:12:25) Kev: based RPG sort of thing this one is more (0:12:28) Kev: character actually bashing stuff buttons (0:12:31) Kev: to beat up bad guys real-time that sort (0:12:34) Kev: thing. (0:12:35) Kev: It is a… (0:12:35) Kev: Um, it is uh… (0:12:37) Kev: It’s a very stylish and fun game, um, it’s also very heavy on the lore and the world, building a whole bunch of nonsense. (0:12:47) Kev: Basically, they live in a world where there’s just space-time distortions that’ll just pop up everywhere, and people turn into monsters in them. (0:12:56) Kev: And so, yeah, people trying to navigate life, that kind of risk around the corner, um, where it could just pop up anywhere and you can turn into a monster. (0:13:07) Kev: But, uh, yeah, that’s uh, they- that’s what I’ve been up to, I’m caught up with the story, it’s a relatively new game, it’s only started in the summer, so it’s only up to like the 4th chapter right now. (0:13:21) Kev: Um, and so, you know, each chapter you get a different crew that you can play as, they’ll give you trials, and then- or, you know, trial usages, and then later you can pull for them as part of the gacha or whatever, right? (0:13:33) Kev: And so there’s different factions and whatnot. (0:13:36) Kev: You have this fancy butler group, they call themselves a housekeeping group, but they’re really fun, so on and so forth. (0:13:48) Kev: There’s animal people in this world too, like it can vary from your typical cat boy/girl to full on wolf furry or just a bear. (0:13:58) Kev: You can play as just a bear guy. He’s Ben, I love him, he’s an accountant. (0:14:00) Codey: Oh my gosh. (0:14:02) Kev: Um, yep, um, the game (0:14:06) Kev: is quite uh because if it’s a bacha daily nature they fill it up with all (0:14:14) Kev: sorts of extra content lots of little minigame events and things like that to (0:14:18) Kev: keep you busy there was an event where I ran a restaurant for a little bit there (0:14:23) Kev: was there there’s an arcade with in-depth minigames that have sucked me (0:14:28) Kev: in lately and so on and so forth um but yeah so that’s one of my go-tos that I (0:14:33) Kev: just grind through and enjoy. (0:14:36) Kev: Mahoyo games are more or less designed to be on anything, including mobile. (0:14:46) Kev: This game will run on a strong enough phone or whatever. (0:14:50) Kev: I play on the Playstation, but it’s cross save and whatever, so you can play pretty much wherever. (0:14:58) Kev: I don’t think it’s on the Switch that might be the only one it’s not on because they don’t have Mahoyo games on the Switch. (0:15:04) Kev: Other than that, it’s on pretty much anything. (0:15:06) Kev: Uh, um, nah, so that’s roughly what I’ve been up to, like I said, just very zen me time, uh, no pun intended with the name there, but uh, but yeah, that’s roughly what I’ve been up to. (0:15:20) Kev: Um, oh, oh, no, there is one other thing, actually, just this past week. (0:15:26) Kev: Um, art, uh, so, oh gosh, I haven’t actually posted on, like, art account yet, but it is, uh, uh, Inktober or, you know, uh, League of Legends. (0:15:36) Kev: Inktober since that one’s taken and actually there’s this one guy who (0:15:43) Kev: organizes thing for pixel artists specifically in September since I (0:15:48) Kev: forgot about it last month I’m doing it this month and the theme is a quite fun (0:15:52) Kev: one it’s a monster maker not like a universal spooky monsters but as in (0:16:08) Kev: I put it on the Slack where we hang out with friends, (0:16:14) Kev: but I’ll be posting it soon on my art account. (0:16:17) Kev: I’ll be able to get that going. (0:16:19) Kev: So that’s certainly been fun. (0:16:22) Kev: But yeah, that’s roughly what I’ve been up to. (0:16:26) Kev: There we go. (0:16:27) Kev: All right. (0:16:28) Kev: Now let’s see what the world of Cottagecore has been up to, (0:16:31) Kev: shall we? (0:16:32) Codey: world of cozy. (0:16:33) Kev: So unfortunately, let’s go. (0:16:39) Kev: All right. (0:16:40) Kev: First, let’s talk about cozy researching, (0:16:44) Kev: because Research Story has an update. (0:16:48) Kev: I only had 0.10 update. (0:16:50) Kev: That’s– no, I thought they were farther in. (0:16:52) Kev: OK. (0:16:54) Kev: The cosmetic things, some small fixes. (0:16:59) Kev: But the next update, 0.11, will be a bigger one (0:17:04) Kev: that they’re hoping to complete by the end of the year, which (0:17:07) Kev: will include. (0:17:08) Kev: All NPC orange heart events, like similar to their dating stuff, the greenhouse, not (0:17:13) Kev: our premium show, but probably farming ad nauseam, uh, house upgrade 2, and, oh good, (0:17:21) Kev: gosh, timbers, we’re variant creatures, what, oh, you know how, you know how, you know how (0:17:24) Codey: Shinies (0:17:29) Codey: Your shiny shiny research story Pokemon (0:17:33) Kev: every farming game doesn’t have to have romance, so guys, every, mmm, mmm, oh come on, d- (0:17:38) Codey: creature collector. (0:17:38) Kev: does not need, does not need SHINEEES, if it does it, it’s- (0:17:44) Codey: I will say though that in the real real every now and then I do see like an actual shiny like (0:17:50) Kev: Yeah, sure. (0:17:52) Codey: Pokemon quote-unquote Pokemon like wild wildlife like every now and then at the Wildlife Center will get like an all-black (0:17:59) Codey: squirrel or an all-white raven (0:18:02) Kev: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah for sure that right absolutely right like I mean I’ll buy noism (0:18:03) Codey: Yeah, and so they basically are like real-world shinies, but they do (0:18:11) Kev: Right like is the you know poster child for real life change, but even other odd color parents (0:18:13) Codey: Yeah, it’s albanism, albinism and melanism are the two. (0:18:18) Codey: So melanism is when things are darker and albinism. (0:18:20) Kev: Ah, I didn’t realize (0:18:21) Codey: Oh, and then leucistic is another thing. (0:18:25) Codey: It’s not, it’s like albinism, but it’s not as intense. (0:18:30) Codey: Like leucistic things will usually only have (0:18:32) Codey: either part of the like skin won’t be, (0:18:37) Codey: or like the fur or feathers. (0:18:40) Codey: So it won’t be all of them that are lighter colored, (0:18:42) Codey: but they also do not. (0:18:43) Codey: have the red eyes so albinism is like an entire lack of anything and so they (0:18:48) Kev: Right, right (0:18:50) Codey: don’t even have eye color so it’s just like red but so yeah there’s actually a (0:18:53) Kev: You right (0:18:55) Kev: Okay (0:18:57) Kev: Okay (0:18:57) Codey: secret third thing. (0:18:59) Kev: The secret third shiny very that’s that’ll save Pokemon go. Um, I (0:19:03) Codey: Leucistic. So yeah. (0:19:06) Kev: Yeah, I’m looking at the pictures right now. Okay, I see there’s obviously no albinism with the the total lack of (0:19:12) Kev: Pigmentation you can see the red shows up because of the blood vessels and all that right (0:19:16) Codey: Yep, yep (0:19:17) Kev: But yeah, I’m seeing these are (0:19:18) Kev: Some of these are just like white animals, but like look more normal. Yeah, I’m more shiny variance. That’s really cool (0:19:20) Codey: Yep (0:19:23) Codey: Yes, those would be leucistic so so I will say so so if they do exist (0:19:28) Codey: They’re not it’s not shiny (0:19:30) Codey: But the calling it the shimmers. I think is where we’re like, okay, come on (0:19:33) Kev: Mhmm. (0:19:36) Codey: I really am sorry. (laughs) (0:19:37) Kev: So… (0:19:38) Kev: See… (0:19:39) Kev: We’re a game called “Research Story”. (0:19:41) Kev: It would be co- (0:19:42) Kev: I would be… (0:19:43) Kev: Have the TOTALLY opposite reaction if they just went by these actual names, right? (0:19:48) Codey: Yeah, like find the loose the leucistic variant, the (0:19:48) Kev: Like… (0:19:48) Kev: Th-that would be so dope. (0:19:51) Kev: Yeah. (0:19:52) Kev: That would be so dope. (0:19:54) Codey: dude, so super zoo story should do that because it’s a wildlife (0:19:57) Codey: thing. Because so oftentimes melanistic or leucistic animals (0:20:03) Codey: depending on their habitat, like, it can really reduce their (0:20:07) Codey: ability to survive in the wild. And so some of them, like some (0:20:10) Codey: leucistic, like, if we get a super leucistic animal, like we (0:20:15) Codey: are a leucistic groundhog that was just (0:20:18) Codey: white like a white groundhog that thing’s not going to survive so we don’t end up releasing (0:20:18) Kev: Yeah. (0:20:24) Codey: those um melanism it depends so like we get melanistic squirrels all the time and we just (0:20:30) Codey: they’re fine and it’s a recessive trait so if you put we always release them on the property because (0:20:30) Kev: Yeah, sure. (0:20:36) Codey: then they’ll produce more melanistic squirrels with the melanistic population we already have (0:20:42) Kev: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, that definitely sounds like a win-win, because yeah, if you’re, you know, like a white, like, literal walking target, um, yeah, and so you can hang out in a zoo and be a cool thing that people are gonna want to see. (0:20:52) Codey: Yeah, a hundred percent. (0:20:58) Kev: Yeah, no, that, that, uh, that seems like a win-win to keep those. (0:21:02) Kev: Um, oh, man. (0:21:02) Codey: Yeah. (0:21:06) Kev: Oh, you got small tangents around wildlife talk. I saw, where did they go? Katie? Katie did? (0:21:12) Codey: A katydid! (0:21:12) Kev: Those are the, yes, I saw one for the first time the other day outside. Um, the mmm, those are so cool. (0:21:18) Codey: Yeah, so you (0:21:20) Codey: Yeah, you can hear them. Um, I mean they’re basically nighttime crickets, right? So like crickets usually will chirp (0:21:28) Codey: um (0:21:29) Codey: during either dawn or dusk (0:21:31) Codey: Um, but katydids do it at night (0:21:34) Codey: And so they make and they’re called katydids because they sound like they’re saying katydid katydid katydid like whatever (0:21:40) Kev: Just like Pokemon! (0:21:41) Codey: Just like Pokemon. (0:21:42) Codey: And there’s some really cool ones we I actually saw one so they’re usually herbivorous so they (0:21:47) Codey: eat like plant material because they’re basically they’re kind of like a grass they’re super related (0:21:51) Codey: to grasshoppers and crickets but there is one that’s a predator it’s just a leaf with yeah they (0:21:52) Kev: Yeah, it’s just a leaf with a grasshopper head, that’s all it looks like. (0:21:58) Codey: do mimic leaves to like not getting um but I did see one in Costa Rica that was predatory (0:22:06) Codey: so it mimics leaves and it actually eats other things and it was on this it was eating beetle (0:22:06) Kev: Oh, oh dang. (0:22:12) Codey: on this one it was really cool and they are pretty they’re they don’t they are not (0:22:17) Codey: predatory very often so it was really cool to see that (0:22:22) Kev: - Yeah, no, that would be fascinating. (0:22:28) Codey: Yeah (0:22:30) Codey: It’s basically yeah (0:22:32) Codey: It’s basically like if you saw it if you found a cow in the wild and then the cow like ate like I guess (0:22:38) Codey: Well, so bird cows will cows and deer and everything they’ll eat birds (0:22:44) Codey: If they find like if they find baby bird a baby bird nest, they’ll eat them (0:22:44) Kev: they were really huh I hadn’t (0:22:50) Codey: They yeah nature is wild (0:22:54) Kev: what’s that family guy clip are you scary (0:22:58) Codey: Yeah, nature is scary, 100%. (0:23:02) Codey: Things do whatever they need to do. (0:23:06) Kev: hey that’s my pink sorry i’m just google image searching I didn’t know that that’s so cool (0:23:09) Codey: They can, there are some pink, pink kitty dead. (0:23:11) Kev: Thanks for watching! (0:23:12) Codey: There’s some really cool butterflies that have pink, (0:23:12) Kev: If you enjoyed this video, please subscribe and like! (0:23:13) Kev: Thank you for watching! (0:23:15) Codey: like pink edges on their wings and stuff too. (0:23:20) Codey: More shimmer Pokemon like it, or not Pokemon, (0:23:22) Kev: Yeah (0:23:23) Codey: life like in research story but (0:23:24) Kev: But the real ones dude do the real ones at least that’s research story (0:23:32) Kev: Look if it to me and Cody, there’s a good chance we’ll get into wildlife talk (0:23:36) Codey: Tangents! (0:23:40) Kev: She lives in it by her profession I live in it by my where I live (0:23:47) Kev: Okay, so that is research story again the original thing that (0:23:58) Kev: check the link it’ll be in the show notes um speaking of updates that are (0:24:02) Kev: out now Horticular our gnome game has an update um boy I don’t remember (0:24:18) Kev: So it focuses largely on community feedback with huge changes to how you can build and manage your habitats in your garden (0:24:27) Kev: because being the premise of the game is you’re a bunch of gnomes trying to restore a garden. (0:24:33) Kev: So yeah, there’s a pretty decent size, right? Like it’s 1.1. (0:24:43) Kev: A lot of UI stuff and how the creatures will interact with you. (0:24:47) Kev: Thank you. (0:24:48) Kev: There’s a pretty decently sized changelog to describe it, but I do appreciate the response, basically, because it’s all community feedback, so this sounds like a really nifty feature. (0:25:02) Kev: Good for them. (0:25:04) Kev: Apparently, one of the big things is creatures will let you know earlier if they don’t like their habitat. (0:25:12) Kev: And so on to it. (0:25:12) Codey: Yeah, so apparently before, like they would just move. (0:25:15) Codey: And so you would just like, you’d be like, (0:25:17) Codey: where did they go? (0:25:18) Codey: Um, but now they’ll let you know earlier. (0:25:19) Kev: It’s like Animal Crossing. (0:25:22) Codey: Yeah, you see, you see your person, (0:25:26) Codey: instead of just like them being gone, (0:25:27) Codey: you actually get to see them walking around (0:25:29) Codey: with a thought bubble now. (0:25:30) Codey: I’d be like, no, what are you, what do you want? (0:25:30) Kev: Oh, man (0:25:34) Kev: The good old days of og Animal Crossing where Oh (0:25:36) Codey: How, where you just got, you just got, (0:25:38) Kev: Ah. (0:25:40) Codey: you re-log. (0:25:42) Codey: You re-logged on after you dropped it for a while and then your favorite villager is like gone and you re- just… (0:25:44) Kev: Yup, yup, or if you play with friends the risk, the russian roulette that you lose your (0:25:48) Codey: Just… (0:25:52) Codey: Oh, yeah. (0:25:54) Kev: neighbor to the wild times og in a crossing, why, oh my goodness, um so there you go. (0:26:00) Codey: And then you gotta like… (0:26:03) Codey: and then you never like that friend again because they stole… (0:26:07) Codey: they stole blue bear from me. (0:26:13) Kev: Um, so there you go. Horticular off faster response time than animal crossing. There you go folks (0:26:20) Codey: Did you mention that it’s 20% off on Steam until October 21st? (0:26:24) Kev: Well, there you go (0:26:25) Codey: There you go. (0:26:27) Kev: All right (0:26:28) Kev: Next up actually I think stay at the time of recording (0:26:32) Kev: I think I saw like steams doing an animal fest thing that might be part of it (0:26:38) Kev: So yeah, yeah, there’s probably actually a handful of cottage core s similar (0:26:43) Kev: Games on sale on that people might like so I suggest you guys hop on steam and check it out (0:26:49) Kev: I really appreciate those themed weeks and and sales and whatnot (0:26:55) Codey: My wallet doesn’t appreciate them. (0:26:56) Kev: Wow true true well, you’re right. I appreciate in theory, but I can’t partake in it right now (0:27:03) Kev: - No, no. (0:27:03) Codey: Yeah, no, I don’t you like mentioned that it’s on and I was that there’s like that that sale and I’m like (0:27:03) Kev: Yeah, um… (0:27:09) Codey: I’m not looking I’m not gonna do it (0:27:12) Kev: Don’t look, don’t look. (0:27:16) Kev: Alright, next up we got my time at Sandrock. We got the 1.4 update dropping October 8th, which will already be out by the time you guys are listening to my voice, our voices. (0:27:30) Kev: You unlock brand new host marriage quests for Justice. Oh, uh, Grace, she, P, I don’t even know how to pronounce that, Logan. (0:27:40) Kev: Emora Feng, Mian Nia, and Unseo. (0:27:42) Kev: I appreciate doing stuff with your spouse. Hopefully. (0:28:10) Codey: Yeah I am actually feeling related to that. I’m feeling bad about trying to get Scott to marry me (0:28:16) Codey: because I don’t want him to just lose his entire autonomy. So it is nice to like think of or that (0:28:23) Codey: know that some games are giving them some form of after marriage life for sure. (0:28:30) Kev: Yep, so yeah, that’s one of the big things, but there’s a handful of other things in the (0:28:39) Kev: update, some Kickstarter designed stuff, including a new quest, some monsters, a bus system for (0:28:51) Kev: start running from Porsche. (0:28:52) Kev: I don’t know what that means, but some home furniture stuff and so on and so forth. (0:29:00) Kev: Yeah, all that is part of the free update. (0:29:03) Kev: There is… let’s see here… oh, new voice recordings, huh? (0:29:08) Kev: I didn’t know that. (0:29:09) Kev: That’s interesting. (0:29:10) Kev: Yeah, again, that’s all out, or should be up by the time you guys hear this. (0:29:16) Kev: Yeah, so go check it out. (0:29:17) Kev: Again, Steam page has all the details and whatnot. (0:29:20) Kev: Also, my time at Evershine, geez Louise, Kickstarter’s up to 1.8 million. (0:29:28) Kev: Juh-m-million! (0:29:30) Kev: Dollars with roughly two weeks to go as of this recording (0:29:30) Codey: Yep. (0:29:35) Codey: Yep. (0:29:36) Kev: Okay, good for you, Evershine. They’re they’re out there. They’re hustling (0:29:37) Codey: Wild. (0:29:41) Codey: They are… (0:29:42) Kev: Alright (0:29:44) Kev: speaking of (0:29:45) Kev: Hustling question mark. I don’t know because this feels like it should have been there already (0:29:51) Kev: winds of Anthos a (0:29:55) Kev: There’s been a slight DLC delay. It’ll be October 10 (0:30:00) Kev: Only a week late from the original date and again by the time you guys listen this will probably be out (0:30:05) Kev: And that’s you can camp wherever you are, which really feels like they should have been there at the beginning (0:30:10) Codey: Yeah and you can like bring your pets camping with you and like all this other (0:30:15) Codey: stuff it was it was a cute little sounding update and so yeah they just (0:30:18) Kev: Yeah. (0:30:20) Codey: they just gave it up an extra week to probably finish some stuff. You know I’m (0:30:22) Kev: Can you make curry with your friends, though? (0:30:25) Kev: Yeah. (0:30:26) Kev: Uh-huh. (0:30:26) Codey: sick of making curry in games. (0:30:30) Codey: I want to make macarons with my friends. (0:30:35) Kev: Oh my- backgrounds are real hard to make, aren’t they like- (0:30:37) Codey: They are, yes, that’s how you (0:30:40) Codey: test a friendship for sure. (0:30:42) Kev: Oh my- IRL over cooked the Macarons of Challenge. (0:30:46) Codey: Oh gosh. (0:30:47) Codey: Yeah. (0:30:47) Codey: That’s how that’s going to be me and my boyfriend this upcoming weekend. (0:30:51) Codey: He said that he’s going to make macarons for this party we’re going to. (0:30:54) Codey: And he is of the mind that like, if it is at all, not incorrect, but like not (0:31:00) Codey: to his standards, he just, he just tosses them and I’m like, they’re still delicious. (0:31:04) Kev: oh yes no no no yeah oh that’s how you grow that’s the training you gotta you (0:31:05) Codey: They just didn’t rise the way you wanted them to please let me eat them. (0:31:09) Codey: And he’s like, no! (0:31:10) Codey: They’re mediocre! (0:31:12) Codey: I’m like, no! (0:31:18) Kev: gotta take your licks and it’s usually not as bad as you think as someone who (0:31:20) Codey: No, dude, he’s such a perfectionist. (0:31:24) Codey: It’s never as bad, yeah. (0:31:24) Kev: likes to cook right like you’re your own harshest critic (0:31:27) Codey: It’s never as bad. (0:31:29) Codey: And we can just tell people I made them. (0:31:31) Codey: I don’t care. (0:31:32) Codey: Like, if they look bad. (0:31:34) Kev: » They got damaged in transit. (0:31:36) Codey: a couple of them lost their lives on (0:31:38) Kev: No, there’s no macarons in this update. (0:31:45) Kev: But what there is, is something else people aren’t probably sick of. (0:31:49) Kev: Fish bow, Moonstone Island. (0:31:52) Codey: ♪ Fish Bow ♪ (0:31:52) Kev: Continuing their tradition of crossing over with things and (0:31:57) Kev: fish bowing everything, yeah, they crossed over the hills. (0:31:59) Codey: Crossing over. (0:32:04) Codey: No, do you know crossing over with John Edwards? (0:32:07) Codey: Like, or whatever, whoever it was. (0:32:09) Codey: It was this show. (0:32:11) Codey: There was this guy who was a medium (0:32:13) Codey: who would help people, quote unquote, (0:32:16) Codey: help people talk to their loved one from beyond the grave. (0:32:20) Codey: So, and that was called. (0:32:22) Codey: He crossed he so like I’m like thinking about like fishboat like leading a séance like fishboat being the medium to like sorry I’m we’re off the rails y’all yeah pretty much Jesus you call fishboat to talk to grandma and figure out where the treasure was buried (0:32:34) Kev: Call California (0:32:36) Kev: Fishbows to get guidance (0:32:38) Kev: on your life and (0:32:40) Kev: finances (0:32:48) Kev: Sick, I’d be (0:32:50) Kev: be down for that. (0:32:52) Kev: I mean, you can have that idea and give us our medium… give us our psychic medium fish bow. (0:32:55) Codey: Just free, just completely free. (0:33:00) Kev: It wouldn’t be outlandish. There are psychic types in that game. (0:33:06) Codey: Dude, and he already looks like he already kind of has this like mystical look to him (0:33:12) Kev: yeah just put on a hat on the bowl oh okay fish boat is coming to chloromon (0:33:13) Codey: Just put on a hat yep, okay, but what about what about fish bow? (0:33:22) Kev: which is another creature collector that I didn’t really know existed until today (0:33:27) Kev: but it has nice key art i’ll say (0:33:39) Kev: uh there’s actually a few other ones including the standard avatar um the wizard guy forget his name (0:33:44) Kev: and uh but yeah fish bow uh what what’s interesting is so fish bow is is like the (0:33:51) Kev: fish bow with legs but here it’s a guy with the fish bow for the head um so you have full arms (0:33:57) Kev: and everything um so yeah koromon that’s only five dollars on steam right now um (0:34:12) Kev: um so yes oh so yeah that’s uh that’s I think that’s there’s nothing I think actually in (0:34:20) Kev: uh moonstone island in regard to this but they’re just announcing that fun little crossover (0:34:25) Kev: so go check out uh quorum on and get your your your fish bow for for you um okay speaking of (0:34:33) Kev: things for you and by for you I mean for me and probably cody super zoo story the kickstarter is (0:34:38) Codey: Whoo (0:34:40) Kev: Now Live! (0:34:42) Kev: So this is the game we’ve we’ve covered it before (0:34:46) Kev: Actually, but it’s a your (0:34:50) Kev: Typical cottagecore farming thing, but it’s focused on a zoo instead of a farm, right? (0:34:55) Kev: Which is a cool concept in my opinion or fresh spin on it. Um (0:35:00) Kev: The Kickstarter is now live. The goal has been crushed. We are at 60k. What was their original goal? (0:35:09) Kev: or no (0:35:12) Kev: The original goal was 60k. We’re almost at 100k at the time of this recording. Um (0:35:18) Kev: So, you know, it’s it’s going to be made theoretically (0:35:24) Kev: Currently only on Steam, but there are going to be stretch goals (0:35:30) Kev: When some which are we are they’ve already hit they’re adding some (0:35:34) Kev: extinct and rare animals (0:35:37) Kev: We’re getting the animal encyclopedia already. We are close to the bird aviary (0:35:42) Kev: So we can house the birds and the insects. That’s an important one. Go fund it guys. It’s only like 4k more. Come on (0:35:50) Kev: I want a two camp (0:35:53) Kev: So there you go, so put that in there and there’s several other (0:35:58) Kev: stretch goals (0:36:00) Kev: Consoles are pretty high up there. That’d be nice. But second island expansion. What does that mean? (0:36:08) Kev: Yeah, so yeah go check it out um if you (0:36:12) Kev: haven’t seen it like the whole Kickstarter has you know all the (0:36:15) Kev: details on the game um it looks pretty quality a lot of love in this one out of (0:36:19) Kev: you know if it’s going to be a Stardew like clone whatever um they are putting (0:36:24) Kev: a lot of effort into the zoo aspect of it all the animals look really nice it (0:36:28) Kev: looks like you know a lot of care and systems do that and of course you have (0:36:34) Kev: all your relationships and romances and so on and so forth and there is farming (0:36:39) Kev: of course. Festivals, all. (0:36:42) Kev: All that good stuff. (0:36:43) Kev: Oh, there’s dinosaurs! That’s already in there. Sick. (0:36:48) Kev: Super Zoo Story. I’m already locked down. I’m going to get this one 100%. (0:36:54) Codey: Yeah, so I’m I just figured out my Kickstarter I’ve been literally (0:36:59) Kev: I’m looking down the list as well. (0:37:04) Kev: It’s… (0:37:05) Codey: The whole time that you’ve been talking I’ve just been like trying to figure out my kickstarters (0:37:12) Kev: All these are quite reasonable $35 the highest there’s there’s not the 2000. Oh wait, those are all gone. Never mind (0:37:19) Kev: Oh wait, there they are. I was looking the wrong one. Oh, no, there it is. There’s the three thousand one. Oh (0:37:21) Codey: there we go. Okay, back. Back this project. Digital game key. Do I want to do I want beta (0:37:23) Kev: My god. Oh, oh you can design your NPC for marriage (0:37:29) Kev: You know if I had the money I’d love to do one of those one day just for the giggles (0:37:33) Kev: Um. (0:37:36) Codey: access? I don’t think I do. I don’t care about in game. I don’t know. I’m just going to do (0:37:46) Kev: Yeah, probably $20 usually a safe one to go with right that’s usually play the game and stuff (0:37:52) Codey: Uh, it needs my, oh, cool. (0:37:54) Codey: Nevermind. (0:37:54) Codey: My card is saved on this computer. (0:37:55) Kev: Hey, that’s your credits (0:37:59) Kev: Yeah, yep, yep, so check it out folks if you have it, you know 3k just sitting around (0:38:01) Codey: No, oops, that’s not right. (0:38:06) Kev: Drop it in and you know drop drop it in (0:38:09) Codey: What 3k. (0:38:10) Kev: Yeah to get to get to design an NPC for marriage candidate (0:38:14) Kev: So, you know for the (0:38:17) Kev: The sake of the podcast just just dropped 3k and you know, I could add fish bow in or or owl (0:38:23) Codey: I did it! I pledged. (0:38:24) Kev: You’re pick (0:38:26) Kev: There we go. One step closer to the bird sanctuary (0:38:30) Kev: So this has 23 days to go grab a couple weeks, but don’t forget (0:38:34) Kev: I know everyone will forget and we’ll remind you when it’s about to end but check it out (0:38:39) Kev: Back it looks like a great game (0:38:42) Kev: Very excited for super-easy story (0:38:43) Codey: I never I never back things. This is come on y’all join me (0:38:47) Kev: » Yeah, there you go. (0:38:50) Codey: I want the console releases at 210. Okay, and we’re almost at 100 we can do it. We got 26 days left. Oh (0:38:56) Kev: We got extinct animals, but which extinct animals did they get the good ones? (0:39:03) Codey: Yeah, let me look at that they had the list (0:39:06) Kev: Holy Marsupial wolf, the quagga. (0:39:10) Codey: Marsupial the marsupial wolf makes me (0:39:13) Codey: super-sack because that like we still have pictures of it like like it became (0:39:20) Codey: extinct so recently that we had photographs of it (0:39:26) Kev: Moas? I’d like a moa. (0:39:27) Codey: well it says they only list a couple what is a quagga oh it’s (0:39:32) Kev: Have you ever seen that show extinct or alive? (0:39:37) Kev: No, so it’s it’s about a guy like I think he’s the grandson of the guy who (0:39:44) Kev: Hey, you like found the the modern-day coelacanth or whatever, right? (0:39:48) Kev: So he’s dedicated to conversation (0:39:50) Kev: So the grandson’s dedicated to conservation all that and he goes out and tries to find animals that are supposedly extinct to see if (0:39:57) Kev: They’re still out there, which is cool. Yeah (0:39:58) Codey: Okay. (0:40:00) Kev: Yeah. (0:40:00) Codey: Wonder if there’s an Ivory Build Woodpecker episode. (0:40:03) Kev: I believe there is actually, yes. (0:40:06) Codey: That was, that was drama. (0:40:13) Kev: He actually has a pretty high success rate, all things considered. (0:40:16) Codey: Well, yeah, I’m not gonna bring it up. Let’s continue. (0:40:21) Kev: I mean, yeah, all right, all right. (0:40:24) Kev: But yeah, Super Zoo Story, you can enjoy extinct animals without all that drama, (0:40:30) Kev: the Wooly Rhino or the (0:40:32) Kev: the wolf okay I like in the notes even alcis my god is this game going to get me to kick start it (0:40:41) Codey: No, no, so I wrote that, sorry I wrote that, and yeah it did. (0:40:43) Kev: oh oh okay well there you go (0:40:47) Codey: You started talking about it again, or you started talking about it and I was like, yeah. (0:40:53) Kev: all right so that’s all for the updates and such um let’s talk about new game announcements um and (0:41:00) Kev: And we’re going to start off with one (0:41:02) Kev: And here and dear to me in whether I want to or not genetically speaking gotcha on the grassland (0:41:10) Kev: Where you play as a lot and cowboy in all caps per the steam page? (0:41:12) Codey: Mmm. (0:41:17) Kev: Where you farm the farm and there’s adventures grasslands and of course highlands they have to be cozy (0:41:24) Codey: They are cozy they are quoted as cozy (0:41:26) Kev: Yup, yeah, so it’s uh, I (0:41:31) Kev: I will say despite, y’know, all- (0:41:34) Kev: All the general, uh, or the usual, uh, descriptors, I think the game looks fun. (0:41:39) Kev: Um, it’s a 3D game, it has a very, sort of, cartoony art style to it, kinda reminds me of Fabledom, I would say. (0:41:47) Kev: Um, you can feel the Latin influence, the music, uh, some of the character designs and architecture, stuff like that. (0:41:55) Kev: Um… (0:41:56) Codey: even if even if y’all aren’t in the in the market for a new game go watch this (0:42:02) Codey: trailer it slaps that music that me I was like dancing (0:42:05) Kev: It’s pretty good. (0:42:09) Kev: It’s got a pretty dang good soundtrack or, you know, demo music, whatever you wanna. (0:42:15) Kev: Yeah, there’s a fire horse. There’s magical creatures. There is a Ponyta in this game. (0:42:22) Kev: So yeah, that is Gaucho in the Grasslands. (0:42:26) Kev: It looks very cool. (0:42:27) Kev: “Relief date aiming for February 2025.” Not terribly far away, to be quite frank. (0:42:33) Kev: I highly suggest everyone check this out. (0:42:35) Kev: I love the trailer, again, for nothing else for that sick, uh, music. (0:42:39) Kev: Um, yeah, that looks great, um, uh, obviously heavy bias here for the Latin stuff, but, uh, (0:42:46) Kev: you know, any sort of, you know, minority thing. (0:42:47) Codey: also the the dog has a mustache and the dog also has like those like eye tufts that you he like (0:42:51) Kev: Yeah. (0:42:55) Kev: As, as is in Mexico, as, (0:42:57) Codey: can’t see he’s just so cute (0:43:02) Kev: is pretty good. (0:43:04) Kev: It’s the, um… (0:43:06) Kev: Yeah, the, the, the… (0:43:07) Kev: Yeah, everyone knows that design now. It’s pretty popular these days. (0:43:10) Kev: The thick eyebrows and the mustache. (0:43:12) Codey: The thick eyebrows. (0:43:14) Kev: That you can’t… (0:43:14) Kev: Yeah, it’s good, good, good stuff. (0:43:17) Kev: Um, looks very colorful. (0:43:19) Kev: Very, very cool looking game. (0:43:21) Kev: Uh, and if, say, you need more cowboy-ing, (0:43:25) Kev: uh, you can also look at… (0:43:27) Kev: Seattle County. (0:43:29) Kev: Seattle Country! (0:43:31) Kev: Uh, I’ll read the blurb, um… (0:43:58) Kev: Should I have read that in a, in a, in a western twang? (0:44:00) Codey: Yeah, you should have you should have a hundred percent. Let’s do it. Please do it again (0:44:02) Kev: I can do it. (0:44:05) Kev: It’s like, oh, alright, here we go. (0:44:07) Kev: Here, here you go, Al. Here’s your editing work. (0:44:09) Kev: Alright, so, uh, here’s Cattle Country. I’ll read the blurb here. (0:44:13) Kev: Howdy, partner. (0:44:15) Kev: Welcome to Cattle Country. (0:44:17) Kev: The only cozy cowboy adventure life, Sim. (0:44:20) Kev: The trauma-determined pioneer traveling west to start a new life. (0:44:25) Kev: Make a home in the mountains. (0:44:27) Kev: Take on bandits. (0:44:29) Kev: Discover destiny plots. (0:44:31) Kev: Build a farm. (0:44:32) Kev: Develop your town. (0:44:33) Kev: and make friends with (0:44:34) Codey: I was not what I was expecting! (0:44:42) Kev: nailed it. (0:44:43) Codey: Nailed it. (0:44:45) Codey: I want you to talk like that forever now. (0:44:49) Codey: My dopamine just went through the roof. (0:44:52) Codey: Also, if you are… the word cozy was said in a title, take a shot. (0:45:00) Kev: Ugh, that’s already two sh*t. (0:45:04) Codey: I love water. (0:45:05) Codey: Take a shot of water. (0:45:10) Kev: So this one, unlike Gasho and the Grasslands, is more Stardew-esque with your top-down-pixel-ish (0:45:18) Kev: book. (0:45:21) Kev: They do try to, you know, have that more pioneer Western-y. (0:45:25) Kev: Not even Western, more pioneer I’d say, right, because when I think Western I think out in (0:45:30) Kev: more desert-y with the tumbleweeds and whatnot. (0:45:33) Kev: We got grassy areas, so they’re more pioneer-y. (0:45:36) Kev: But they got the music, they got some of the designs. (0:45:41) Kev: All things considered, like, it does look fun, you got guns and you’re pew-pewing at (0:45:46) Kev: other cowboy guys, I guess. (0:45:49) Kev: You got fishin’, you’ve got top-and-trees, lumberjacks, houses riding a horsey, mining- (0:45:57) Kev: although all of the usual, uh, fixings. (0:45:59) Codey: Oh yeah, it takes some… ugh. (0:46:01) Kev: Yup, there you go. (0:46:04) Kev: Um, so that is, uh, and with an open beta coming October 25th. (0:46:11) Kev: So get in the saddle. (0:46:14) Kev: Um, and wishlist now. (0:46:16) Kev: They should have, they should have hired me to do the western voiceover. (0:46:20) Codey: They really should. (0:46:21) Kev: Um, but yeah, no, uh, no, uh, actually. (0:46:33) Kev: Um, there’s a saloon. I mean of course there is. I like western cowboy motifs. I don’t (0:46:42) Kev: think they’re leaning heavily enough into it actually. That’s probably my biggest complaint. (0:46:48) Kev: The color palette just should be more brown and orange and whatnot, but I digress. Yeah, (0:46:55) Kev: check it out. It is one of those. Uh, all right, next up, uh, gone. (0:47:02) Codey: they don’t they don’t have it in this one this upcoming one (0:47:03) Kev: Well, actually I’m sure Cozy is, do they have Cozy in there? Oh, I don’t know if they actually (0:47:09) Kev: have Cozy. Nope, there’s no Cozy, but they do have another hallmark of several cottage (0:47:16) Kev: corgames as sexy fish people. Um, and we’re talking about forgotten waters and underwater (0:47:26) Kev: farm sim. Create your dream farm in an underwater world. Grow, build, and thrive under the (0:47:34) Kev: sea. Um, so yeah, you play as a fish person, uh, with feet, no, no more tail or whatever. (0:47:41) Kev: Um, think of like, uh, Luca. That’s what I’m thinking of. Yassified Luca. With an octopus (0:47:45) Codey: Yeah, okay, yep. (0:47:48) Codey: Just fine. (0:47:51) Kev: for hair. Like it’s, it’s like, it’s literally just an octopus sitting on your head. That’s, (0:47:56) Codey: Yeah, it is (0:47:57) Kev: that’s, that’s forming your dreamy locks. Um, so yeah, uh, you know, I digress. (0:48:03) Kev: It is underwater largely, but I think you can go to the surface because you’re having (0:48:07) Kev: dinner with what looks like a regular human. Yep. So this is, this is just Luca, the, the, (0:48:10) Codey: yeah at one point you’re in like a tavern that is like doesn’t seem like it’s under the water (0:48:15) Codey: looks like you’re dating a land a lander lander land lover I don’t know (0:48:23) Kev: the game. It really is. Have you seen Luca? Oh, well, it’s, uh, yeah, I enjoyed it. It’s (0:48:24) Codey: oh wow okay I have not you recommend it okay (0:48:31) Kev: It’s not bad, it’s not, you know, (0:48:33) Kev: not one of the top tier, but I enjoyed it for what it is. It’s a fun. (0:48:35) Codey: Right. I’ve been I’ve been making my way through them. (0:48:40) Codey: I just saw Princess and the Frog for the first time like not too long ago so and that’s been a while. (0:48:42) Kev: Uh, that one’s… Oh man. Like, that one’s not stellar, but the fact that it’s 2D makes (0:48:53) Kev: it so much better. Oh yeah, oh no, Dr. Facilier is top tier, and his song is such a banger. (0:48:54) Codey: Dude, but I I really liked that the villain and his songs they were (0:49:04) Kev: Like holy mackerel. Oh my god, yeah, he is. He’s fantastic building this song. Ah! Friends (0:49:10) Codey: Yup. (0:49:10) Kev: on the other side that’s what you (0:49:12) Codey: Oh, you’re pretty. (0:49:12) Kev: can have with you play for the other side so this is a Kickstarter on they (0:49:16) Codey: 100%. (0:49:22) Kev: have already they’ve just hit their goal of pen that’s a little over 10,000 (0:49:29) Kev: almost at 11,000 about two weeks ago or at least time recording October 23rd so (0:49:38) Kev: So wait, what? (0:49:40) Kev: One of the stretch goals is the jellyfish will assist- (0:49:42) Kev: I’m not sure if that guy in the bottom left, he’s kinda got a lot of metal going on. He might be a robot man- I don’t know. (0:49:44) Codey: I I need to see that (0:49:50) Codey: How do they do that I need to know (0:50:01) Codey: question mark (0:50:12) Codey: Okay (0:50:12) Kev: Girl person, I don’t know, Bernie. (0:50:14) Kev: Oh man, they’re running the gambit of fish people. We got one with no pupils, we got Amaya, we got- looks like just an air stewardess Lee. (0:50:28) Kev: Okay, yeah, there you go. And all sorts of other characters. Yeah, there you go. There’s all your attractive fish people and underwater crops. (0:50:42) Codey: I like so from looking at the trailer I was like really not sure what they were (0:50:42) Kev: What did I just date Sidon from Breath of the Wild? That’s the ultimate one, r

On this episode, my guest is Craig Slee, a disabled writer, consultant and theorist dealing with mythology, folklore, magic and culture, exploring life through the lens of landscape, disability and fugitive embodiments.He has contributed essays and poetry focusing on the numinous and disability to various anthologies including The Dark Mountain Journal. Craig has also co-facilitated multiple seminar series at the Dresden Academy for Fine Arts, regarding ableism in the arts, as well as how ableism affects our relationship to space. In 2023 he was one of the speakers at the World Futures Studies Federation 50th Anniversary Conference, introducing the concept of (Dis)abling Futures. Craig resides in the northwest of England.Show NotesCornwall and the Seasons Who Gets to Decide What it Means to Know a Place?The Folding in of Identity to TourismA Question of Productive vs Generative AbilityAbleism and AttentionFinger Bending and the Freedom of MovementRedefining and Remembering Other Forms of MovementWhat is Stillness?The Dance of MountainsObeying LimitsHomeworkCold Albion (Craig's Blog)Goetic Atavisms (Hadean Press)Craig's Blue Sky Page | Facebook PageTranscriptChris: Welcome to the End of Tourism, Craig. Craig: Thank you for having me. Chris: Yes, it's great to be able to speak with you today. I've been ruminating for a couple of years now as to the themes that we might speak of. And I was introduced to you via a mutual friend and have come closer to your work via the Emergence Network's online gathering, We Will Dance With Mountains, in the last quarter of 2023.And so, to begin, I'd like to ask you first where you find yourself today and what the world looks like for you, where you are. Craig: Where I find myself today is by the canal in my flat, looking out the window, just as evenings coming in, in the northwest of England, in Lancaster, and it's chilly here which is actually a good thing, I guess, these days.Chris: Perhaps I could ask you to elaborate a little bit on what Lancaster looks like, but I know that, you know, from our conversations previous that you grew up [00:01:00] in Cornwall, a place that was previously, a town, an area devoted to fishing and mining, and from what you've told me, it's also become a massive tourist trap that you know, from the little that I've seen online, that the area receives around 5 million visitors a year, and tourism makes up about a quarter of the local economy.So I'm curious what you've seen change there and what do you think has happened to Cornwall and its people as a result and maybe there's something in there as well regarding Lancaster. Craig: Yeah, so I should emphasize this. I was born in Cornwall. My family has been lived down there for many many generations anyway and my father's side of the family actually, at various points, worked in the tourist trade as well before they went on to other things.And, [00:02:00] yeah, I mean, I left because, frankly, there was no jobs that weren't tourism. I came to Lancaster to study because one, I have a physical disability which means that Cornwall is a very rural area, so you need to drive everywhere, and that's fine, I drove at that point, but for good or ill, a more urban center was better for me later in life as I left.But the way that it shifted, even in the years when I was growing up, was that, you know, essentially was a rural area where nothing really happened socially or culturally that much until the summer seasons. So, you were very, very aware of the seasons in terms of, you'd have visitors [00:03:00] starting, and that was when the town would wake up, and then it was kind of dead for the rest of the year, so it was very much one of those things where the tourist trade has actually made me more aware of human rhythms in the natural world than perhaps I would have been, because it's so based on seasonal stuff.And just looking at the way the infrastructure because a lot of the towns and areas, they boomed a little bit well, quite a lot in certain areas with the tin mining of the 19th century. But a lot of the architecture and things like that was 19th century. So you had small villages and slightly larger towns, and they have very, well, I guess some people, if they were tourists, would call "quaint, narrow streets."And when you have that many visitors, in the summer, you can't get down the streets. [00:04:00] You can't drive it because it's full of people walking. You know, there's an interesting anecdote I'd like to recount of when my father, he was a vicar, he was a priest, moved to a new area he would go to the local pub and all the locals would greet him as the priest and be like, very polite.And then when it would come out that my dad was actually a local, that he was born down there and part of the family, everybody would relax. And there was this real sort of strange thing where people came and stayed because it was a lovely area, but there was still that whole issue with second homes and certainly keeping an eye on things from a distance here during the pandemic when people left cities during the pandemic, they went down there amongst places in Britain.And that meant that, [00:05:00] literally, there were no houses for newly starting teachers, you know, teachers who had got jobs and were moving down there, couldn't find places to live because during the 2020 and sort of 2022 period, everything was just opening up either as Airbnb because there was this influx from the cities to the more rural areas because it was supposedly safer.You know, and I feel like that's a reflex that is really interesting because most people think of it as, oh, "a tourist area," people go there for leisure, they go there to relax and get away from their lives, which is true, but under a stressful situation like a pandemic, people also flee to beautiful quotes isolated areas, so there's that real sense of pressure, I think and this idea that we weren't entirely sure, growing up, [00:06:00] whether we would have a place to live because a lot of the housing was taken up by people with second homes. And plenty of people I went to school with because it's a surfing area took the knowledge that they learned in the tourism trade, and actually left and went to Australia. And they live on the Gold Coast now. So it's this self perpetuating thing, you know? Chris: Well, that leads me to my next question, which kind of centers around belonging and being rooted and learning to root, maybe even becoming a neighbor or some might say a citizen of a place.And with tourism or a touristic worldview, we seem to be largely stunted in our ability to know a place, to become part of that place in any significant or enduring sense of the word. And so, I'm curious what your thoughts are on what it means to know a place, [00:07:00] and perhaps on the often mad rush to say I know a place for the sake of social capital, you know, given the context of the kind of relative difficulties that one might incur, or in a place like Cornwall, and the relative degree of exile that forces people out.What do you think it means to know a place in the context of all of these economic pressures denying us that possibility, or at least making it really, really difficult. Craig: I think we have a real problem in modernity with the idea of knowing as a sense of capture, right? So if I know you, I have this boundary of this shape, this outline of Chris, right, that I can hold, that I can grasp. And I think sometimes when we say, "oh, I know a place," or, "oh, I know a person" there's no concept of the [00:08:00] ongoing relationality. You know, you capture the image and then you keep it. And it's a whole construct of extractive knowledge that really, I think, comes down to the idea that the humans are the ones who get to decide what a place is, right?So. I could say in the standard sense, "Oh, I know Cornwall because I, you know, I grew up there for nearly 20 years." My family has been there since about the 1500s. You know, "I know a place, it's in my bones." Yada yada yada. All the metaphors you want to use. But the fact of the matter is, the place itself influences me more than I influence it. So there's this strange sense of belonging in which modernity [00:09:00] says "I belong" or "it belongs to me" rather than perhaps the place has extended hospitality to me and allowed me to grow and I could live/work in a place for 30 years and never know it because we're not comfortable as a culture with the idea of going, "I don't know this place."And it's a variety. It's always changing. And I think about all the times I used to watch the sea and talk to folks whose parents were fishermen or lifeboatmen, and they'd be like, "Yeah, we know the waters, but the waters can change. We know roughly what they do under certain conditions, but we don't know them completely, because they can always surprise us."And So, when somebody says, "oh, you're from Cornwall, you're a Cornishman," and all that sense of identity, [00:10:00] I'm like, "yeah, but that's, that's both really fluid for me, because, you know, there's a lot of history." Is it the tourist world of the 20th and 21st century, or is it the farming and the mining that goes back to the Neolithic?How we relate to a place purely in a modern sense isn't, to my mind anyway, the only way to conceive of belonging because, even though I'm now 300 miles away from there, I have its isotopes, its minerals from drinking the water in my teeth, you know. So, on some level, the idea that you have to be in a place also to belong to a place is something that I'm curious about because, there's this whole notion, [00:11:00] "you're only in the place and you've been in a place for this long and that means you know it and you're local." Whereas growing up, there was this sort of weird thing where it was like, "yeah, you might have been here 30 years and everybody knows you, but you're not a local." Right? You still belong, but there was this other category of " you're not local or something like that."And so it's complicated, but I really do, for my personal take, tend to look at it as a, the landscape, or wherever it is, influences my sense of belonging in a non human context, or more than human context, if that makes sense. Chris: Hmm. Yeah, there's so much there. Yeah. I mean, I'm also, in the context of identity, also wondering in what ways, not only has the tourism industry shaped one's identity of being local, which [00:12:00] is, I think, a huge issue in over touristed places in the last, you know, 10 or 20 years, as identity politics rises into the mainstream, and but then also not just the industry and the interaction with foreigners or, or guests, or tourists, but the way in which the image of that place is crafted through, often, ministries of culture or heritage, you know, so you could grow up in a place that isn't necessarily overly touristed or anything like that. But then have your identity crafted by these ideas of culture or heritage that the government's, federal and otherwise, have placed on people.Craig: And especially because where I come from, Cornwall, actually had its own language, which died out, which was on the verge of dying out in the 19th century. And slowly there are more speakers of it now. And you go back there now and you'll find, [00:13:00] even when I was growing up it wasn't so prevalent, but you'll find a lot of the signs for the street signs will have the English and the Cornish.So that's where the government has embraced this identity and enhanced it after people have been saying, you know, "this is a language we've rebuilt it. It's cousin to Welsh and Breton. We should use it. It's part of our identity and it's got folded into that." And so the infrastructure itself is now been part of that. You know, those very same streets have a name that wasn't known for like, 50, 60, maybe to 80 years, and suddenly people are now deliberately using the old names in non English languages because of that. And it's very strange because, especially in the UK, what with all [00:14:00] of Brexit and all that, there is a very weird sense wherein the rest of England, i. e. North and London and those sort of areas don't understand because Cornwall was a peripheral area and much like Wales, there's a lot of distrust of central government. Hmm. So, you've got this whole construction of a personal identity of nobody actually really understands what goes on outside. Either they're incomers, either they're emmets. You know, which "emmets" is the old English for "ants." Referring to tourists as ants in a kind of, yeah, they get everywhere. And the whole notion of who we are is always constructed. But in that case, going away and coming back to visit, I'm going, "Well that street didn't [00:15:00] have that label on it when I left. But it does now. And so in a certain sense it's the same place, but it's got this overlay of somewhere different that really enhances that sense of layers for me of "which Cornwall?" "Which of any of these places are we talking about?"Like you say, is it the one you see on a picture postcard or an Instagram or is it the ones who sat there as kids going, right, 'there's nothing to do, let's go and drink in a field?' You know and all of these things can co exist.Chris: Hmm, right. Yeah, I just interviewed a friend of mine, Christos Galanis, who did his PhD on hillwalkers, as well as homecomers in the Scottish Highlands, so people who spend their weekends climbing, summiting the Highland Mountains, and also the Canadian or Americans who travel to Scotland on heritage trips or ancestral [00:16:00] journeys. And he mentioned how in the Highlands that the governments have placed the original Gaelic place names on all of the the signs there, whether you're entering a village or perhaps on the street signs as well.And that he said that something like "only three percent of the of the people in Scotland actually speak, speak Gaelic," so they see the sign, they see the name, the vast majority of people, and they have no idea what it means. And I also remember the last time I was in Toronto, which is where I'm from originally, or where I grew up.And my family grew up in the east end of town, and the main thoroughfare in the east end of town is largely referred to as "Greek Town." You know, when I was a kid it was certainly Greek Town. The Greek letters, the Greek alphabet names as well as the English names of the street signs in that area.But it's much, much, much less Greek than it was 25 years ago, right? So again, [00:17:00] this question of like, is that to some extent trying to solidify the kind of cultural geography of a place. That people come to that street and that neighborhood because they want to experience Greekness in its diasporic kind of context.And yet, so many of those people, so many of those families have moved on or moved along or become more Canadian in their own sense of the word, so. Craig: Yeah. It's very strange as well because things like that attract... there's a loop obviously, because you'll get people coming to experience the greekness or the cornishes, and people will be like, oh, we should open a business that will enhance the greekness or the Cornish of the place, and that will draw, and it just becomes this thing and, yeah.Yeah, it's very strange. And I would totally agree with you on that one. Chris: Yeah. [00:18:00] Yeah. Until like a Greek person from Greece or a Cornish grandmother comes into town and says like, what? No, that's not Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I'd like to shift the conversation, Craig, a little bit towards ableism, and begin with this question that comes from our dear mutual friend Aerin and who admits that she's happily robbed it directly from Fiona Kumari Campbell.Yes. So, you might have heard this question before but she she felt the need to kind of pose it anew and and so the question is this. How does disability productively color our lives and Aerin wanted to ask it, to modify it slightly and ask, how does disability generatively or creatively color our lives? Craig: I can't speak to anybody's life other than my own really. But I would say that for me disability has, [00:19:00] one, given me a real sort of ability to look at the world and go, "you guys think this is how everything works and it clearly doesn't."You know, it has given me a generative gift of going, "hold on, what people think of the default really isn't the default, because I was never born as the default, and so I've had to find my own way of relating to the world" and that means that anybody goes anytime anybody goes "Oh, well, everybody knows..." or "the only way to do it is this?" I am always going "are you absolutely sure about that?" You know, "are you absolutely sure that what you're looking at or experiencing or noticing is only perceivable in one way, it's only ever [00:20:00] frameable, in one context?" But also this idea for me that disability is simply a fact.It's not good or bad. It is a thing that exists in the world and ableism is essentially the urge to measure against the vast field of disability and impairment and go, "We don't want that. That's the worst thing to be. So, we will strive to not be that." As Fiona Kumari Campbell would say, " It sets up a ranking and notification and prioritization of sentient life."So, this is why we, to a certain extent, we have such a obsession with youth culture. Young, healthy, fit folks are in some way better than the elderly. Oh god, nobody wants [00:21:00] to get old cause, if you're of white extraction, "oh, they'll probably stick you in a home."Nobody wants to conceive of the idea that actually you can have a generative and intimate relationship with somebody, not necessarily a romantic one, but a deep, deep friendship that also involves, frankly to put it crudely, perhaps wiping somebody's arse, right? There's this whole notion of messiness and failure and why Aerin reworded it from "productive" to "generative" is that whole idea of being productive, of having capitalist use, to produce, to make for purposes. And for me, disability and the field of disability in which I exist says "I exist and I don't have to be productive." it really [00:22:00] challenges the capitalist framework for me. And also, ableism, because it's set up to rank things like speed, mobility, all kinds of things like that, having a disability where you're sitting there going, but there are other ways to do this. There are other ways to exist. To notice the way our bodies move that are mostly ignored in the sense of "yeah, we don't pay attention to our posture or our muscle structure or what our guts are doing because we're all already forced along to the next thing.You know, we're already touring from, "okay, I've got up in the morning. Next thing I've got to do is have breakfast," right? And if you can easily shift between those stages, so you get up in the morning, start your breakfast, put your clothes on easily. [00:23:00] You don't think about it as much, but if it takes you 10, 20 minutes to even get out of bed and you have to do specific things, maybe exercises, maybe things like that, the whole process thickens.And in a sense, for me, it's an antithesis to escapism because there are things you cannot escape. There are things you have to deal with. And because there are things you have to deal with, you have to pay attention to them more. And that means the most ordinary mundane thing becomes or can become, if you're willing to gently sense it, a lot richer.So, this is one of those interesting things where if people want to go places to experience new things, Okay, that's a whole issue that you've obviously talked about throughout the podcast, but there is a certain sense in [00:24:00] which we don't even know where we started from. We've not explored our own bodies.I mean, I wrote a piece in 2020 when all the lockdowns hit that got shared around various bits of the internet and I think even in the newspaper at one point in, but I got a request to syndicate it, of how to exist when you're stuck in your house. You know, what do you do to "keep," in inverted commas, "sane," which, of course, is an ableist framework, but what do you do to stop yourself from losing mental health? How do you function? And I broke it down and I sort of made practical suggestions of, this is how I, as somebody that doesn't actually have a, quotes, "normal life," and spends a lot of his time unable to travel or go out much, stops myself from feeling isolated, [00:25:00] because I've ended up having to learn to explore what some might regard as a limited domain.But to me, that limited area, that limited domain has given me this sense of vastness that's, you know, I can't remember which philosopher it is, but there is a philosopher who basically says, I think it is a Camus, who says "you just need to reopen when you're in your room and the whole world will reveal itself to you."And when you don't have a choice, when you're stuck in chronic pain, or sickness, or something like that and you have to work out what to do with your limited energy, to embrace life, there becomes a sort of challenge, to go, "okay, how can I feel like things are enriching? How can I, almost metabolize the things that other people would reject.⌘ Chris Christou ⌘ is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.You know, [00:26:00] because disability is so "Oh, it's so sad he's disabled. Or we've got the cure for this and that. And we've got to cure it." And it's not really about ameliorating suffering. Which is a good thing. It's an analoid good to ameliorate any form of suffering. But there is this sense that the only way to perceive the world is through a so called "non disabled" abled body.The only way to experience a rich world, and again, I'm not knocking people who do a lot of travelling per se, but the only way to experience the world is to go on long journeys, and backpack and explore you know, new ways of thinking. That's great. And I'm not saying you can do exactly the same at home, but you can also become radically hospitable to yourself and to the environment in which you find [00:27:00] yourself.And that opens a whole lot of doors that I think I would regard as generatively colouring life and revealing life. In a way that was possibly occluded before. Chris: Yeah, I mean, so much of what I've come to in the research around tourism and hypermobility is this question of limits.And that certainly comes up in other themes, in other contexts. But not just the limits to one's place. Like, where does your place end? But also the limits of the human body. And, when we talk about freedom generally in the West, or in, in the context of modernity, it's so often pinned or underpinned via the freedom of movement, in part, because I know you're coming from the other side of the Atlantic, but certainly in, in this part of the [00:28:00] world, in the Americas and especially North America, freedom is understood as freedom of movement because that's in part how, the states and, and the nation's existences are justified.And so, I would just ask you what you think of that in the context of freedom being, of course a synonym for liberation. And how so many of our western notions of freedom are attached to movement and have. To a large degree become glorified in the hyper mobility of our times.Craig: I would agree with you. I think it was always there because of the colonial urge, but I think North American notions of freedom have, through a certain cultural hegemony, filtered back. You get it in the media, even Star Trek, you know, the final frontier, you know. Things like that. Or wide open spaces. There's still this notion of, freedom to move, room to live. It has its own European context and [00:29:00] horrors, unfortunately.But also, I think the notion of freedom as freedom to move. There is a question there for me, because I'm not sure we know what we're doing when we move. Right? And one of the questions that always was raised for me is, if I raise my finger, as I'm doing now, and I bend it so it's 90 degrees, how did I do that?What did I do? Well, science would say, okay, you used all your tendons and so on and so forth, and I'm like, yeah, "okay, those are nice descriptors. But what did I actually do?" Where's the connection between the impulse and the urge to bend my finger? Right. I don't know what I did there. I just thought I'm gonna bend my finger and the [00:30:00] finger bent But there's a whole bunch of stuff going on.So when I'm thinking about freedom of movement First the question is, "freedom to move in what way?" Right? So the the classic example is, in perhaps North America and and English speaking countries is "to go where I want, when I want, with none to to gainsay me, none to say you can't go there," which has been problematized thanks to the history of enclosure of land and capture by state and political actors, but also this notion that if you get into a city and you can go and people go, "Oh, I'm free to go wherever I want."I always sit there and I'm going, "yes, but you can go wherever you want, but if a place has stairs and no lift..." right? I [00:31:00] can't go there. So do I have less freedom? Well, according to the traditional notions of freedom, yes. I am less free. When I grew up, as an example in the UK I went to America when I was about four or five, and I was absolutely stunned by the amount of public toilets that had a disabled toilet.Right? Because virtually nowhere where I grew up at that point had a disabled toilet. This was due to the fact that the U. S. has a disability rights movement that was slightly ahead of the U. K. 's. So I was freer to go about my holiday in the U. S. than I was technically at home. I couldn't go certain places because there weren't toilets, or there weren't ramps, because that had not been legalized. You know, there'd been no legislation. In the UK, there was [00:32:00] no disability legislation until 1995. You know, so technically, I was born in 1981. I had no specific extra legal rights that I needed for 14 years. Now some would say, "oh, that, you've got freedom there... the law has given you freedom.It's giving you the ability to move, but it's only given me the ability to move in approved ways, right? And so every single time somebody talks about room to move, my query is always, okay. "One, as I said, move in what way? And two, who taught you what method of movement is approved or disproved?" So, particularly in Europe, we have folks like the Romani, the Irish travellers, [00:33:00] even the so called New Age travellers, right, who are nomadic folks.And despite this obsession with freedom, the idea that people are nomadic, are shiftless and rootless, still exists. Yes, a degree. The degree of privilege, the degree that I could be, quote, "more confident going into public spaces." And you'll see this in American history and throughout European history as well.And when I was talking about the nomadic folks, I was saying, you know, there are only certain people who are allowed to move in certain ways, to travel in certain ways that are approved. In similar ways with disability there were only certain kinds of people who were allowed into public spaces.They might not have been legislated against in the mid twentieth century. They might have struck those off the books, but at [00:34:00] various points, at least in the US, if you look up the Chicago Ugly Laws, people who were regarded as vagrants or unsightly, were not allowed in public spaces. They could be jailed for that.It's not just loitering. It was very much anything that could give offense because they were physically disabled. Or, the idea that the physically disabled are more likely to be begging or doing things like that. That was all folded in. So, this notion of freedom as the ability to move and move in space.Despite the North American urge to be like, "well, nobody can tell me what to do." There's still a certain level of certain forms of movement are privileged or regarded as normal versus others. So, you know it's weird if you don't stay [00:35:00] in one place or perhaps, it's weird if you don't have a reason for your seasonal job, right?When I was a kid and a teenager... like I said, where I grew up was kind of known for surfing, right? And I met folks who would come from places like Australia and live in Volkswagen transporter vans and work in the seasonal hotels and then go surfing. And then sometimes in the winter they disappear off to Morocco.And you wouldn't see them for six months and they'd come back and there's all this kind of idea of Differing rhythms, which has really influenced my entire life because those folks, they were there there were hundreds of them you could see them parked on every road and I knew several of them very very well, but the fact of those seasonal rhythms, which weren't [00:36:00] approved. It wasn't approved that they didn't stay in one place and pay taxes. To some that might be, you know, "Oh, that's freedom! That's telling the government, I don't have to pay your taxes or I don't have to stay in one place and be a registered visible citizen. I can be a free spirit and go to Morocco whenever I want. But, the fact of it is, if you walked on the, on the roads, people would look at you funny, right?If you look at people who do long distance walking in areas that are drivable, I mean, especially I guess in North America, that's looked at as very, very, very strange, because you guys don't have the infrastructure. So, for me, it's this really strange notion that we're fixated on particular kinds of movement to do with agency and power, right?And we, we will say, "oh, [00:37:00] that's mobile, that's fast, that's quick, that's agile." And I'm always curious about what criteria we're using to say, "oh, that's fast, that's agile, that's nimble," when you look at the so called natural world, and you've got plants that are seemingly immobile, but they actually turn to the sun.You just don't notice it until you stick it on a stop motion camera. And then you're like, "wow, they move." But you could go past that plant every single day and be like, "yeah, it doesn't move. It's a plant. It just stays there." Right? Because our perception of what movement is and what is approved is based around one, what we're taught and two, what we see every day.But also three. What we can't notice unless we're forced to look at the same thing over and over again, right? [00:38:00] Because our tendency is to see one thing, think, "Oh, I know it. I've spotted it. I know what it is. I've identified it. It's fitted into my matrix of identity. I can move on now. It's all sorted." But the whole ethos, I guess, that I'm coming at iswhat if you don't know? What if you don't know? What if that microphone that I'm speaking into and you're speaking into it looks like a particular thing and you think you could describe a microphone to somebody but go down to say the flows of the electrons and it's a context issue. You know? And, and So, I'm interested in thinking about what are the contexts are in the room with us right now that we're not even paying any attention to, and not even in the room, in our own bodies, in our own language.Chris: Wow. Yeah, again, there's so much there. My [00:39:00] my thoughts just flew off into a million different directions. And I feel like it would probably take me a while to to gather them in.Craig: No problem. You do what you need to do. I mean, that's, that's the whole point. Chris: Yeah. So I had a queer crip travel writer named Bani Amor on the podcast in season three.And we were talking about the fallout and the consequences of the COVID 19 pandemic. And she said something like, you know, "the settler can't stay still. That the pandemic showed us that we can't stay still." In the context of that time that so many people who had been engaged in and who glorify or who simply have been taught to live a hyper mobile life, that there was this opportunity to question [00:40:00] that, to bring it into a different context.And I know a lot of people, couldn't necessarily leave their houses in the quote unquote lockdowns. But I don't think that wouldn't necessarily stop people from tending to or allowing themselves to witness the more than human world in that way. And so, my question is, assuming we have the opportunity, in some manner, in any manner, how do you think we might have our understandings of movements subverted, or at least challenged, by virtue of looking at the movement in the more than human world.Craig: Great question. I think one of the biggest notions, and I just want to return to that phrase, "the settler can't stay still." And really, agree with that, and so add to secondary things of what actually is stillness, right? We have [00:41:00] this idea of stillness as immobility, as, as, as perhaps staying in one place.Not moving, but actually, if we look at what we're doing when we're actually apparently still, there's still movement going on, right? There's still movement going on in our bodies. There's still a different kind of mobility going. And we're not the only ones, right? The more than human does this exactly as well.If you look at a rock, oh, you think a rock doesn't move? I mean, it doesn't move, but then you have erosion, right? Then you have the rain, and the way that particles are shaved off it, and it shifts. So, when we're thinking about outside, when we're thinking about... and when I say "more than [00:42:00] human," I'm not saying "better than human," I'm saying "exceeding the human," I just want to make that clear, it exceeds the boundaries of the human. Disability as mutual friend Bayo would define it is, I believe he said "it's a failure of power to contain itself." So, that's Bayo Akomolafe. And this notion that the world and the modern human flows through and beyond any sort of boundary, right? So, any outline we form is not immune in the sense of there's no boardwalk, right?A wall is not an untouchable upright edifice. It's actually touched and permeated, right? So everything in the more than human context interrelates and is, to a certain extent, degrees of [00:43:00] permeable. So, yeah, our cells keep certain things out, and let certain things in, but even the things they keep out, they're in contact with.They're relating to. Right? Because in the same way, with COVID 19 vaccine, people think, "oh, it's a vaccine. It's immunity, right? It'll stop me getting COVID. Or it'll stop me getting this, or stop me getting that." What it actually does is it has an interaction with your, the vaccine has an interaction with your immune system.There's a dialogue, there's a discussion, a call and response, which then engenders further responses in your body, right? So, there's constant relation that is ongoing. So, nothing is one and done, right? To borrow from Stefano Hani and Fred Moten No motion is ever completed, right? Nothing's [00:44:00] ever finished. It's not like we're gonna get off this and, and you'll be like, "oh, I've finished recording the podcast." Sure, you've hit the stop recording button, but the recording of the podcast is still ongoing. And there's this fundamental ongoingness, which is a product of the world.The world is worlding, right? And that means the most ordinary, mundane thing you can think of is ongoing. The mug I have right in front of me right now with tea in it. It's ceramic. It's been painted, but it's still ongoing, right? It still has the relation to the machines that shaped it. And it also has this ongoingness with the human history of pottery.Right? And people go, Oh, that's ridiculous. That's not practical. You know, "it's a mug," but I always [00:45:00] think. Isn't that just commodification? Like, is that not just saying it's a commodity, it doesn't have a story? Like, I don't want to get all Marxist here, but there's that real alienation from ongoingness and the fact that we also are ongoing attempts at relation. We're not even fixed identities. Our movements cannot be technically circumscribed because I have a disability which means I can't dance. Right? I use a wheelchair. I can't dance. I can't do the tango. Right? Okay. But everybody uses dance in a context of bopping to the music and doing all this thing and it's a bit like freedom. You know, everybody assumes that dance is a particular thing.But as Bayo and We Will Dance with Mountains, the course, the whole point of it being [00:46:00] called We Will Dance with Mountains is the fact that mountains don't dance like humans. Mountains dance like mountains. And the only way we spot how mountains dance is to actually pay attention to them and attempt to relate to them.We can't get out of our framework completely, but we can be open to say, what does our framework for a mountain miss about those massive landforms? What are we missing when we say a mountain doesn't move? And that's where you have references to indigenous and local stories that actually talk about these landforms, these places, these folklore places, as the living, moving beings that they actually are.Hmm. You know. Yeah, "okay, that stone circle over there was because a bunch of women were dancing on a [00:47:00] Sunday and in a Christian country, that's bad, so they got turned to stone," or in Scandinavia, "that rock there, it's actually a troll that got caught out in the sun." that these are living, ongoing beings and events, which it's not woo, it's actual or intellectual, I think.If you look at anything for long enough, you start to notice what's ongoing with it, even something that's solid and fixed. And that, to me, the gripping is the bending of the perception, right? That is queering, but crip-queering is that point where you have the restriction involved. People will talk about queer liberation, and yeah, we want crip liberation. That's cool. But if you think about crip liberation as, it might actually be the limits that bring us liberation.And then, if you track back [00:48:00] into mythologies long enough. You've got figures like Dionysus or then poetic gods who say, they're the ones that fetter you. They can bind you, but they can also set you free. And that is really interesting to me that a lot of these liberational figures also have a side that they can tie you up.And I don't just mean in a bondage sense. It's this notion that the two things, the two complexes are part of a whole thing, and you can't divide it into restricted and free and you can't escape. You can't pull a Harry Houdini from existence, which, to a certain extent, some people, when they go on holiday, engage in tourism, they're trying to escape for a little while, their other lives. But we all know you can't escape them. Mm-Hmm. But the inescapability of it is not bad. Right. By default, it's not [00:49:00] bad. It can be, but the assumption something is inescapable, just like, oh, something is disabling. Mm-Hmm. the assumption of good and bad. If you can hold that in abeyance and actually look at it for a second and go, Okay, what's going on here?Maybe our conceptions of this need reevaluating. Now the reason we don't do this on the regular, even in modernity, is because it takes a lot of effort and time to focus. And that's another benefit that I get as a disabled person, right? Because I can't use my time for a whole bunch of things that non disabled folks can.So I've got more time, I've got a different relationship to time and space, which means that I can sit and look at things with that differing relation to time and space, and be like "Huh, I never noticed that." And then I get to talk [00:50:00] about this stuff to folks like you, and people get surprised.And they're like, "you think about this all the day." I'm like, "no, I don't think about this. This is my life. This is how I live. This is my embrace of life, right? And this is my freedom to literally, Be like, " well, okay, my restrictions. How do they actually open me to the world?" And I'm not offering a prescription here, because everybody's different.But it strikes me that even the most nomadic person always carry stuff with them, right? And to borrow from Ursula K. Le Guin with her "Carrier Bag Story of Fiction," which Bayo talked about in We Will Dance The Mountains, the idea of what we're carrying is really interesting, but how often do we rummage in our own bags?Hmm. [00:51:00] Right? How often do we take off our backpacks and rummage just for the sake of it? Often we just look in the backpacks for something specific. Hmm. Right? Oh, I need a map. Oh, I need a chocolate bar. Oh, I need my, you know my iPad. We rarely stick our hands in and notice the way our clothing might shift around our fingers or the way, you know, the waterproofing is possibly coming off and means that the fabric has these different textures because we don't take the time and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's the fact that we don't have that relationship to time and space.And babies, kids do. It's why kids put things in their mouth. All those things where you're like, "Oh no, don't put that in your mouth, it's bad for you." They don't know that. But the whole point of putting it in their mouth and feeling it is to try and not [00:52:00] understand it, not get it.There's nothing there in a baby in its early function that says, "I must understand what that is." The understanding comes upon you through experience. But there's no bit, at least as far as I can work out, that's like, "I must understand what it is that I'm putting in my mouth."It's more like, "hmm, that tastes interesting, it has some interesting textures," and then your brain does all the work or your brain and your body mind do all the work, but the personhood isn't also doing all the work, just like the "I" of my body, right, my relationship with the "I", as in my sense of self, I have to expand that to my entire body, You know, because there's so much going on right now in this conversation that I'm not aware of, right?There's stuff going on in my room that I'm [00:53:00] not aware of, but it's going on now. And so I have to expand and that expansiveness also means I sometimes have to venture into realms of pain, right? Because I have chronic pain. And in order to fully experience that, sometimes I have to encounter that pain.I have to slow down and focus and go, "Oh, the chronic pain that I was mostly ignoring because just in the background, it suddenly leaped to the fore because I'm paying attention." Now, modernity says you shouldn't do that. You shouldn't do stuff that causes you pain. Understandable in a certain context, but If I didn't understand that the pain was also part of the experience and changes how I move, if I didn't understand that chronic pain changes how time stretches, then I wouldn't be where I am.So the more than human permeates the human in ways [00:54:00] that the human is either deliberately trained to deny or doesn't even know is going on and the pandemic basically was, in my eyes, the more than human kind of knocking on the door going you are not this completely hermetically sealed box, right? Your society is not a hermetically sealed box. Chris: Amen. Amen. I mean, could have gone in a lot of different directions, but here we are, at least being able to reflect on it in a good way, and I'm reminded, this notion of abeyance and attention and, and the expansion of the I.I'm reminded of this, this line from Simone Weil who said that "absolutely unmixed attention is prayer." And so, I think that it, something like that is worthy of the times we, we wish to live in and perhaps sometimes do. Craig: [00:55:00] Definitely.Chris: And so, you know, I wish we had more time, Craig really getting into some beautiful black holes there. But hopefully we get the opportunity to speak again sometime.Craig: I'd be, be happy to. Be happy to. Chris: And so before we depart, I'd just like to ask the kind of token question that always comes at the end of interviews, which is where can our listeners find your work?And I'm pretty sure you had a book that came out last year entitled, Goetic Atavisms, if I'm not mistaken. Craig: Yes, I did. So you can find me on my mostly moribund, but strange little blog at cold-albion.net. And you can also pick up the book, which is, to be clear, more of an occult angle on this, but it also brings in the disability angle directly from the publisher Hadean Press or you could get it from, you know, the Bezos Behemoth, if you really [00:56:00] wanted. I am also not really on social media as a project, but I'm also on you know Blue Sky, so you can search me up there, or Mastodon, which you could always search me up there, and I occasionally post things on there.Chris: Wonderful. Well, I'll make sure that all those links and connections are available for our listeners once the episode launches. And I very much look forward to reading Goetic Activisms myself. So, thank you so much, Craig.Chris: Thank you, Chris. Get full access to ⌘ Chris Christou ⌘ at chrischristou.substack.com/subscribe

September 13th, 2024 Yada presents Yasha'yah / Yahowah Saves / Isaiah 53:1-6, the inspiration for his poem and song, "Yahowah Sings to Yisra'el... Come Home." Watch the music video here: Yahowah Sings to Yisra'el - Yada Yahowah Music Group #music #israel #podcast (youtube.com) Link to Twistianity Vol. 5 coming soon! Read Yasha'yah 53:1-5 by Yada, here: Twistianity - Devil's Advocate - Harpayesomeoa (yadayah.com) (Twistianity, Vol. 3, Ch. 12, pg 519). Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company.

September 6th, 2024 Special Episode tonight! Join us as we talk about friendship and family from a Covenant perspective. Yada shares his new unpublished translations of Mizmowr | Lyrics to be Sung | Psalms 110 - 114. Rea' Owlam | Eternal Friend (youtube.com) Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company.

In this episode of “The VBAC Link Podcast,” Meagan is joined by Lauren from Alabama. Lauren's first birth was a Cesarean due to breech presentation where she really wasn't given any alternative options. Her second was a VBAC with a head-down baby, and her third was a breech VBAC with a provider who was not only supportive but advocated on her behalf!Though each of her births had twists and turns including PROM, the urge to push before complete, frequent contractions early on, and NICU time, Lauren is a great example of the power that comes from being an active decision maker in birth. She evaluated pros and cons and assumed the risks she was comfortable with. Thank you, Lauren, for your courage and vulnerability in sharing not only your birth stories with us but also your incredible birth video!Lauren's YouTube ChannelCleveland Clinic Breech ArticleThe VBAC Link Blog: ECV ExplainedNeeded WebsiteHow to VBAC: The Ultimate Prep Course for ParentsFull Transcript under Episode Details Meagan: Hello, Women of Strength. If you have ever wondered if a breech vaginal birth or a breech VBAC is possible, let me just tell you right now, the answer is yes and our friend Lauren today is going to share her story to confirm that it is 100% possible. Obviously, we do have some breech VBAC stories on the podcast but they are few and far between. I mean, Lauren, when you were going through it, did you hear a lot of breech births in general let alone VBAC? Did you hear a lot of people having those? Lauren: No. I had heard a few on The VBAC Link but that was really it. I did a lot of research. Meagan: Yes and it's so unfortunate. This story is a double VBAC story but also a breech VBAC which we know a lot of people seek the stories for this because as she just said, there is not a lot of support out there when it comes to breech birth in general. We have a client right now who was just told that her baby was breech and they've already said, “We're going to try to flip this baby but if not, it's a C-section.” They didn't even talk about breech vaginal birth being an option and it makes me so sad. I'm really, really excited to get into your episode. You are in Alabama. Is that correct? Lauren: I am. Meagan: Awesome. So any Alabama mamas, listen up especially if you have a breech VBAC but VBAC in general. If someone is willing to support a breech VBAC, I'm going to guess that they are pretty supportive of VBAC in general. We do have a Review of the Week so we will get into that. This is by sarahinalaska. It says, “HBA2C attempt”. It says, “Thank you, thank you. Your podcast came to me at such an amazing time. You ladies are doing something amazing here. I'm planning on (I'm going to) have an HBAC after two C-sections in February. I look forward to listening to your podcast on repeat to fuel my confidence, ability, and knowledge.” Sarahinalaska, this has been just a minute so if you had your VBAC or just in general, if you are still listening, let us know how things went and congratulations. Late congratulations because this was a couple of years ago. Meagan: Okay, everybody. Lauren, thank you again for being here. Lauren: Thank you for having me. Meagan: Yes, so okay. Obviously, every VBAC journey starts with a C-section so if you want to start right there. Lauren: Yeah. So my first son was about 7 years ago. He was born by C-section. He was also breech. Meagan: Oh, interesting. Okay. Lauren: He was breech through the entire pregnancy. We had talked to my doctor about doing the version but at 36 weeks, my water broke. Meagan: Okay. Lauren: So once your water breaks, you can't attempt a version. I went to the hospital and they said that it would have to be a C-section at that point. I really didn't have the knowledge that I do now and basically, it was worded as “I don't have an option” and that's just it. So that's what we did. Meagan: Yeah. It's so common. Even with non-breech, there are so many times when we come into our birth experience and we are left feeling like we don't have an option. Lauren: Yeah. Meagan: It's just so hard to know. Obviously, that's why we created this podcast so you know all of your options. And then talking about flipping a baby and doing an ECV after your water broke, that is something I've only seen one time in 10 years of practicing so most providers will be like, “Nope. I won't even attempt it.” I was actually floored when my client was actually offered that. Obviously, it's a more difficult experience and it can be stressful on the baby as well so there's that to consider. She ended up trying it. He tried it twice and it didn't happen and then they ended up going into the OR. So okay. Baby was breech. Do you know why baby was breech? Did they say anything about your uterus or any abnormalities there? Lauren: No. They said sometimes it just happens. They knew how badly I wanted to have a vaginal birth and they said, “You are an excellent candidate for a VBAC.” So I was like, “Okay, great.” Meagan: Awesome. Lauren: That's when I really took a deep dive into birth in general because the stuff that they were saying just didn't sound right to me. Meagan: They said you were a candidate. So where did your VBAC journey start as you were diving in? How did that begin? Did you do that before pregnancy or after you fell pregnant? Lauren: Before pregnancy. Probably before the time I came home from the hospital with my son, I was already researching. Meagan: Baby was a couple of days old and you're like, “And let's figure this out.” Listen, I get that. That's exactly how I was too with becoming a doula. It was literally two days after I had my C-section. I signed up to become a doula. Okay. You started diving in and what did you find? Lauren: It was very shocking to me how most providers don't practice evidence-based. I found out the difference between evidence-based versus the standard of care. I was shocked about that too. I was just like, How can you do that as a doctor when you've got all this evidence here? But another doctor is practicing this way so it's okay for you to do that. Meagan: Right. It becomes the norm or it has become the norm. Yeah. Okay. So you get pregnant and you know VBAC is possible. Tell us that VBAC story. Lauren: So that was just a wonderful experience but part of my research, I joined ICAN and I wanted the most VBAC-supportive provider out there. I did switch providers and I switched even before I was pregnant. Right when we were trying, I was like, I need to get in with a provider who is supportive. I found a wonderful provider. The pregnancy was great. I did all the things. I sat on the birth ball instead of on the couches. I made sure to take walks every day. I kept up with my chiropractic care. All of that were just tips that I had seen so I did that. She was head down by 20 weeks so I was super excited about that and she waited until 40+3 which was also a big thing for me because with my first son, they took him to the NICU so I did not want the NICU. The NICU was a horrible experience. I was like, Please, please, please hold on until 37 weeks. 40 would be great.She did. She held on until 40. It was funny too. It was like a switch flipped at that point and I was like, okay. Now I want to get her out. I was eating the spicy food and everything to try to get labor started. But 40+3, my water broke with her as well before labor started. I panicked a little bit because I didn't want to be on a clock. Although I felt that I was with a good provider, I still hadn't birthed with her yet and I've heard stories about people having this doctor who tells them everything they want to hear and then they get in the birth room and it's completely different. Meagan: The bait-and-switch, yeah. It's so hard because they talk about how we have to have this proven pelvis to be considered the best candidate or to have full faith in our ability, but at the same time, I feel like sometimes from us at a patient's standpoint, they need to prove to us. They need to prove to us that they are supportive throughout. Lauren: Yes. For sure. So pretty quickly after my water broke, I started pumping and while I was pumping, the contractions started so I felt so much better. I was like, Okay, good. Now we've got contractions going. I had a doula at that point as well because I felt like having a doula was going to be extremely important for a VBAC. I called her and let her know. She came over and she just hung out a little bit. We did a henna on my belly and we just talked and talked through some fears and excitement and stuff like that. Then she said, “Well, I'm going to go get my stuff. Why don't you lay down and take a nap and see if once things pick up, we can go to the hospital?” I said, “That sounds great.” This was my first time experiencing labor because with my son, even though my water broke, I never had contractions. They just went straight to the C-section. I went upstairs and I laid down on my left side. Within a minute, I was just like, Whoa, these feel totally different. This is crazy. Probably within 30 minutes or so, I was having contractions every 2-3 minutes. Meagan: Whoa!Lauren: Yeah. I was just like, This just picked up really fast. I think I was supposed to already go in by now. Meagan: Were they intense as well on top of being close or were they not as intense but just close? Lauren: In hindsight, they were not intense but it was my first time having labor and they were more intense than the beginning contractions. “Okay, they are more intense. They are close together. I've got to go now.” I was panicking. We made it to the hospital. They checked me and I was 2 centimeters. Meagan: Okay. Lauren: I was like, “You've got to be kidding me.” Meagan: Yes. That's the hardest thing because we are so focused on the time. We are told if they are this close together, it's time to come in but we sometimes forget about the other factors of intensity and length and what's the word I'm looking for? I was going to say continuous but they are that pattern always. They are sticking to that pattern. They are consistent. They are consistent, yeah. Okay, so you're 2 centimeters which is great by the way. It's still great. Lauren: Yes. Oh, and I forgot to mention too that another that was like, Okay, I probably am with a good provider, I did call her after my water broke and she said, “What are your plans?” I just said, “I'd like to stay home as long as possible and contractions haven't started yet but I'm going to try to start pumping and get them started.” I said, “I'd like to wait until tomorrow morning to come in if nothing has started.” She was like, “Okay. Sounds like a good plan. Just let me know what you need.” I was like, Wow. She let me go past 24 hours. Meagan: Yeah. I just love that she started out, “What's your plan?” Lauren: Yes. Meagan: Versus, “This is what you have to do now.” Lauren: Yes. Exactly. She is wonderful and you'll see through the story how amazing she is too. But anyway, we get to the hospital and I actually started out with a wonderful nurse. The hospital policy is continuous monitoring. Meagan: Yeah, very common. Lauren: But I did not want that. I was so lucky because the nurse who started, she was about to leave. Her shift was about to end but she let me start on intermittent monitoring so I was able to get up, walk around, get on the birth ball just to help things moving. Shortly after that, she left and the next nurse was not so nice about it. She told me, “It's our policy. Yada yada.” I said, “Look. I've been doing the intermittent. I'm fine with the intermittent. That's what I'm going to stick with.” She said, “You're going to have to sign a form.” I said, “Bring it on.” Meagan: Yeah. Lauren: I signed the form and I was just like, “That's fine. I have no problem signing a form to say this is my choice.” Then we labored in the hospital room for several hours and my doula suggested I got in the shower at one point and that was amazing. It was euphoric. It felt so good to get in the hot shower and I was progressing slightly more than a centimeter an hour which I know is what they look for so things just progressed pretty slowly and then that night at around– oh, well actually once I hit 6 centimeters, my body started pushing. Meagan: Oh, yes. That can happen. Lauren: I was terrified when I found out I was only 6 centimeters because they kept saying, “You need to stop pushing or you're going to the OR.” I was like, “You don't understand. I'm not pushing. My body is doing it.” It was several hours of working with my doula to try to stop my body from pushing. Every time I had a contraction, and they were still going every 2 minutes–Meagan: Did they give you any tips on how to cope with that or how to avoid pushing like horse lips or things like that?Lauren: The thing that worked best for me was opening my mouth and saying, “Ahhhh.” So that helped a lot but I would still say that 50% of the time I could not stop the pushes. I still remember that nurse saying which was not helpful at all, “Are you pushing? That's the quickest way to the OR.” Meagan: Ugh. Not very kind. You're like, “I'm trying not to. Can you see what I'm doing here?”Lauren: Yes. Then my doctor came in around 11:00 that night to check me and she said, “Oh, you're complete.” I just remember being like, “Thank God.” I said, “Does that mean I can push now?” They're like, “Yes.” That was the best thing I had heard because that was all I wanted to do was push. I was already in the bed because they had me on the monitor at that point. I was on my back so they just leaned the bed back. I didn't really want to push on my back but at that point, I was like, “I'm not moving. I'm just going to push how I am.” I pushed. It took about 20 minutes and she just slowly came out. It was– oh, I'm going to get emotional. It was wonderful. My doula was also my birth photographer and she got some pictures. She got a picture of my husband. It's really sweet. I hope he's okay with me telling this but she got a picture of him crying. It was when she was almost out. I asked him about it and he said, “I just knew at that point you were going to do it. I knew how important it was to you.” Sorry. Meagan: I'm sure he had that overwhelming flood of emotions like, “I know this is important and I can see it. She's there. She's going to do this.” Lauren: Yes. It was wonderful too and then I got to hold her on my chest for a while but they weren't too thrilled with her breathing so they never took her out of the room but they did take her over to the table and they were suctioning her and stuff like that. I started feeling a little panicky because with my son, what happened was after my C-section, they showed him to me. I got to kiss him and touch him and all that but then they started leaving the room with him. I was like, “Whoa, where are you going?” They were like, “Oh, we've got to take him to the NICU because he's having trouble breathing,” but nobody told me anything. They just started leaving with him. I was panicking thinking that was going to happen with my daughter. I was like, “Please, please, please just give her to me. All she needs is me. She's going to be fine. Just give her to me.” The nurse was like, “No. She needs suction. We need to do our job,” but my doctor was so wonderful. She came over and said, “What they're doing right now is suctioning her because they are not happy with her oxygen level.” She sat there and she told me, “Okay, now she's at 94.1%. Now she's at 94.2%. Now she's at 94.3%.” Every time that thing went up, she would tell me. She was just so calm and it was like she got me. She understood. Meagan: She understood what you needed in that moment. Lauren: Yes. Yes. Another thing too which I thought was really interesting is that first off, she did ask before she did anything. We got half of my daughter's head out but she got a little stuck so the doctor was like, “You know, we really want to get her out.” She said, “I think the vacuum might help or are you okay with me manually helping you?” I said, “What do you mean by that?” She said, “I could just insert my fingers and tilt her chin. I think that will get her out.” I said, “Yeah. Let's do that one.” So she did. She went in and popped her little chin and then she came out.Meagan: Awesome. Lauren: But it was nice to be asked instead of told what needed to be done. Meagan: Well not even told and just have it done. Lauren: Yeah, just do it. I've heard that a lot and it was crazy because that actually was going to happen with my first son. Before my nurses knew I was breech, they came in and they started. They were about to put medicine in my IV and I said, “Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing?” She's like, “Oh, this is Pitocin. We need to get your contractions started.” I was like, “No, I don't want Pitocin.” She's like, “We need to birth him within 24 hours or he's going to be a C-section.” So it was just crazy the difference in being told what was going to happen and being asked for not only my opinion but my consent. Meagan: Yeah, absolutely. That's so important. Women of Strength, if you are listening to this, please, please, please I beg of you to help you know. I don't know how we can let you know even more but you guys have the power to say no and consent is so important. Your consent is so important with anything, even just getting Pitocin drips. If anything is happening to your body, you have the right to say no and you always can question. You can pause and say, “Tell me all of the risks here” or whatever. You don't just have to have it be done to you. You do not have to. Lauren: Yes. Meagan: It's hard to say no in that moment. Lauren: It is. It is. Meagan: It's hard to say no especially when they are coming in and making it sound like something you need. Whether it's something you need or not, you still deserve to have consent. Lauren: Yes, exactly. Then they throw that at you where it's like, “Oh, the baby will be in danger.” You're like, if you're not knowledgable then you'll be like, “Okay, then. I don't want my baby in danger.”Meagan: Exactly. Of course, we don't. Duh. Of course, we do not want our baby in danger but most of the time rarely is our baby in danger if we are not starting Pitocin right away. Yeah. Awesome. So you had this beautiful vaginal birth with support. It was a way different experience with good, true informed consent even into the postpartum period which should keep continuing anytime you are under care with anyone like this no matter in hospital or out of hospital. This kind of consent should continue. Lauren: Yes, for sure. Meagan: Awesome. Awesome. And then baby number three. Cute little baby. I don't know if I'm allowed to say his name so I won't. Lauren: Oh, yeah. You're fine. Ollie, yeah.Meagan: I was going to say I got to see on the recording just before we got started that he was another breechie. Lauren: Yes, he was. I was just like, Oh my goodness. His pregnancy was so similar to my first son. It was a little freaky. I had a lot of anxiety to work through because of that. I was like, This can't happen again. He was breech the entire time and basically stayed in the same position. He moved his little head around and that was about it. This time, I was I guess a little more– I don't know if cocky is the right word but confident that everything would be fine. I was a little more lazy. I didn't do as many walks as I should have. I sat on the couch a little more than the birth ball and things like that. I was like, Oh, he'll be fine. So at about 20 weeks when he was still breech, I was like, Maybe it won't be fine. Maybe I need to get this going. I started trying to do a little more of that stuff. Also, my doula had moved out of state so I was like, Oh no. Meagan: Dang it yeah. Lauren: I know it's so important and having a doula was definitely important for me. I started the search for a new doula which ended up turning out great. I loved both doulas so I was very pleased but I was very nervous. But yeah. I found my doula while I was pregnant and then I just had so much anxiety about my first son's birth that I needed a plan ahead of time basically. I talked to my doctor about it and I went in there just nervous to even bring it up. I said, “So he's still breech. I know that he's got plenty of time to turn but I am nervous because I have a history of this with my first son. He was breech and I had to have a C-section.” I said, “What are your thoughts on a breech vaginal?” She goes, “Well, I don't see why we couldn't.” I was like, “What?”Meagan: You're like, “I wasn't expecting that.” Lauren: She's like, “You've already had a VBAC. You did fine. He can't be sideways. He's got to be to where he could actually come out breech. It's just something that we'll talk about.” She did mention an ECV as well and she was like, “We've got a long way away but I don't have a problem doing a breech VBAC with you.” I immediately just felt so much relief. Meagan: I bet. Lauren: Yes. So we went along the pregnancy like that and then at 37+3 at 5:00 in the morning, my water broke. Meagan: 3 for 3 water breaking, you and I. They say 10% but when you're 3 for 3, you're like, “Hmm.”Lauren: That's what I was thinking and the breech stuff is only 3-4% are breech and I had it twice. It's like, How is this possible? But yeah, my water broke around 5:00 AM and me running to the bathroom, I woke my son up and he came in. It was really sweet. He got in bed with me and we just cuddled for about an hour and I talked to him about how his baby brother was going to come today. It was just a really nice moment to cuddle with him. Meagan: Oh yeah. Those moments are so precious because you're like, these are the last moments of just us as a family of 4 and now we're adding a 5th and these are the last little moments together without little siblings. I'll always remember that. So we did that. We cuddled for about an hour and then the contractions actually started without me having to pump. This time, I was going to wait a little bit longer before pumping because I wondered if the contractions every 2 hours with my daughter for the whole labor was maybe because of the pumping. Having contractions that close made things really difficult. Meagan: Oh yeah. Not a lot of a break. Every 2 minutes, there's not a ton of a break especially when they were a minute long. Not a lot there. Lauren: No. So I was like, Maybe that will change. I knew I could handle it but I was like, If I don't have to, that would be great. They started pretty slow about 6 minutes apart or so really gently. At around 6:00, I went ahead and woke my husband up and let him know. I called my parents. I had texted my doula but I went ahead and called her just to let her know. I called my doctor. She again just asked me, “What are your plans?” I just said, “Stay here to let things pick up and then head to the hospital.” She was like, “Okay, that sounds good.” I just labored at home. My parents live 2 hours away but they were coming to get our older two kids. I was going to try to pack the hospital bag because I had not done that yet. Meagan: Well, at 37 weeks. Lauren: That was the plan for that weekend. I kept having to sit down because of the contractions. My husband said, “Let me do it. Tell me what you need.” I would just give him the instructions as I just bounced on the birth ball. We got that done and my parents showed up. They brought me a big smoothie because I was like, “I want to eat but I don't want to chew so get me a smoothie.” That was really nice just to have something in my stomach and give me some energy and stuff. They got here at around 9:30 and at around almost 11:00, I was like, “These contractions are starting to feel real.” I had a first birth reference at that point. Meagan: Yeah, like more intense and frequent and strong. Lauren: Exactly. Oh, but I will say by 7:30 again, at 7:30 that morning, I was back at 2 minutes apart. Meagan: Oh man. It's just something your body does. Lauren: That's just me, yeah. But they weren't intense and this time, I knew. I was like, Okay. I know this is not intense. I'm still able to talk through them. I'm able to recover very well, but then right around 11:00, I was like, “Things are getting really intense now so I think we need to go.”We left for the hospital and let my doula know. I called my doctor as well and it was really wonderful talking to her too because she said, “You know, when you go in there, make sure you are confident. Tell them this is the plan. You are going to do a breech VBAC. We have already discussed this.” I think she was worried too. The hospital, I will say, I do not feel was supportive. I think it was mainly that they were scared. I think she knew that too, but having her in my corner was what I needed. Meagan: Yeah, very huge. Lauren: We got to the hospital and she had gone ahead and called them to directly admit me so I didn't have to do triage and all that. That made it so much quicker. We got there probably around 11:40 or so and we were already in our room and the doctor was coming in by 12:00. She came in and she checked me. She was like, “All right. You're already at about a 5 or a 6 so you're doing great.” She's like, “I'll be in the hospital for a while so they'll just call me when you need me. Just do your thing. I was like, “All right. Here we go.” I did get in the bed for a little while so they could do the IVs and stuff like that. I told them I wanted the wireless monitor. They were having trouble working it but they still never made me do any monitors because I told them I can't do continuous unless it is wireless because I need to be able to move. They didn't argue with that so that was nice. Once they got all that done, I got on the birth ball. We played some music that I had preplanned and my doula and my husband both helped me work through the contractions then it was 12:58 which was less than an hour when my body started pushing again. I'm like, You've got to be kidding me. I can't do this.They called the nurse in because I was like–Meagan: Last time this happened at 6 centimeters. Please don't tell me. Lauren: They came to check and she was like, “Oh my gosh, she's complete and he's right there.” I was like, “What?” Meagan: Yay!Lauren: Yes. They called my doctor. I was panicking a little bit but she wasn't there. She was in the hospital but because she wasn't in my room and I went from a 5 to complete in less than an hour, I'm like, “Is this baby just going to shoot out of me?” I was like, “I need her to be here.” Anyway, she got there very quickly and this time, I knew I didn't want to be on my back so they had me just try some different positions but I really liked when the bed was sat up and I was facing the back and leaned over it so I was upright. Then I was able to move my pelvis around and just find a comfortable position. I really liked that. I started pushing because I could. He just very, very slowly came out and my doula was recording because I wanted a recording of my last birth but I was just too out of it to even ask for it so I had let my husband and doula ahead of time that I wanted it so my doula took care of that. She was there recording it. Meagan: Awesome. Lauren: Yeah. I was pushing I remember this one hurt a lot more than my daughter. I think they stretch you differently. I remember panicking to my husband, “Oh my gosh. This hurts.” He was just slowly coming out but I couldn't see what was going on. With my daughter, they rolled out a mirror so I could see what was going on. I felt like I was pushing wine. I didn't ask him to but my husband stepped in and he was like, “Okay, I see a leg now. Oh, there goes the other leg.” He started just telling me body parts and I was able to get a visual which was so helpful to be able to know how much was coming out. When it got to his chest, it felt like my body was just like, Okay, we're done. The contractions just stopped and I was like, “What's going on? They were coming so fast and now they're just chilling out or whatever.” They were like, “It's fine. We'll just wait until the next contraction.” They did start coming back but it didn't feel as strong and it felt slower. I don't know what that was about. It could have just been my perception too. He came all the way out up to his neck and then he wasn't really coming much further after he got to his neck. The doctor was turning him because he had the cord wrapped around his neck twice. He just didn't seem to be moving like he was supposed to. She said, “I need to check and see if his head is flexed,” and it was not. She had to put both hands inside to flex his head so that it was in the correct position and she had turned him over to try and get some of the cord off as well. It got a little intense there for a minute. She said, “Okay. I need you to get on your hands and knees,” so I did that and that wasn't working. She said, “Okay, mom. I want to get you to flip over. I just need a different angle to get him out.” I flipped over on my back which I was completely fine with at that point. I wasn't panicked. I had a little bit of anxiety and fear but I wasn't really scared because my doctor seemed so confident in that she's got this. We just need to do something a little different to get him out. We flipped on my back and she got his head exactly where it needed to be. I did two more pushes and he came out. He had gotten stuck longer than they wanted him to so she said, “We're going to go ahead and cut the cord and get him to the nursery team who was coming in” because they needed to resuscitate him just from the time it took. Meagan: He was shocked Lauren: She said too, “He's going to be okay. He's trying to cry but he needs help.” I said, “Okay.” I felt good at that point. I knew that if he was trying to cry that he was still conscious. The NICU team– it was charted wrong how long he was stuck. I think they panicked a little bit because they just went and they intubated him immediately and they said, “Okay, we need to get him to the NICU.” I hadn't even touched him at that point. I said, “Can I touch him or kiss him or talk to him before you take him?” I asked my doctor that and she said, “Can you bring him over here so she can give him a little pat before you take him?” The nurse looked over and she goes, “She can see him from where she's at,” and they left with him. Meagan: Oh. Oh. Oh boy. Lauren: To me, it did feel like a punishment for doing a breech. They went back and looked and they charted that he was stuck for 5 minutes. We had a video and he was stuck for a minute and 40 seconds. Huge difference. Meagan: Very big, yeah. Lauren: They went immediately to what they would do with a baby who had been stuck for 5 minutes. They charted his APGAR as 0 but my doctor said, “It can't be because he whimpered when he got out so he's got to have at least something.” It was all just a big overreaction at that point. They were supposed to monitor him for 4 hours to make a decision and they immediately just made the decision to admit him to the NICU which meant he was stuck in NICU for at least 3 days. Then within– when I went to go see him, it was within 2 hours. They had already extubated him. He was already breathing on his own with no problems whatsoever. Meagan: He was fine. Lauren: Yeah, he was fine.The next morning, my doctor went and talked to the doctors–Meagan: The pediatricians? Lauren: Yeah. Yeah at the NICU and just let them know, “This is wrong in the chart. This is wrong in the chart,” educating them about breech VBAC. She also did talk to them about the behavior of the nurse and she said, “It was unacceptable.” They talked about that. Oh, because that same nurse, when I finally got up to the NICU to see him, she had her back turned and she didn't see me coming and I heard her talk. She goes, “Well, you know, he came out the wrong way.” Then she realized that I was behind her and she walked away. I never saw her after that. Meagan: She probably was avoiding you. Lauren: I was like, Oh my goodness. I can't believe that just happened. Meagan: Seriously. Obviously, she's got a chip on her shoulder toward people who are doing things that are actually normal, just a different variation. Lauren: After my doctor talked to them that morning, as soon as she left, they called me and they weren't going to let me breastfeed or hold him or anything like that because he had a central line in his umbilical cord and they said, “It's too risky. It could fall out.” As soon as she left, they were like, “We're going to actually let you try to latch and hold him. We'll just have to be really careful.” Meagan: Good for your doctor for advocating for you guys. Lauren: That was one of my things that I just really love about her. That's not something that she had to do. She took the time out to review everything that night. I had him on a Saturday so she reviewed everything that night, got up early the next morning, went to the NICU, advocated for me, and I'll just never forget her for that. She's my angel.Meagan: Yeah. That's how it should be. That's really how it should be. Are you willing to share her name for anyone looking for VBAC support and especially for breech? Lauren: Yeah. Her name is Dr. Robinson and she's at Alabama Women's Wellness Center in Huntsville, Alabama. Meagan: Awesome. Lauren: Yes. It's really hard to find a VBAC-supportive provider in Alabama but breech VBAC? That's hard anywhere. Meagan: I have Alabama Women's Wellness Center because we have our supportive provider list that we are working on right now to perfect so everybody can get access to that in a better way and we don't have her on there so I'll make sure to add her. Lauren: Yes. Thank you. Yeah. She's amazing. That's probably an understatement. Meagan: She sounds absolutely incredible. I'm just so happy for you. I'm so glad that you had that advocate through a provider and it sounds like the second time, it was a little bit more of that informed consent, truly wanting to incorporate you into this experience with a little less of that the second time, but holy cow. Amazing. A minute and 40 seconds, that might feel like an eternity to someone watching, but really, that's actually pretty quick and your provider knew, “Okay, let's change positions. Let's move. Let's get this going,” and baby's out. It can be common for babies to come out a little stunned breech or not breech. Sometimes they come out a little stunned and you also had a really fast transition so you went from a 5 to a 10 really fast. There are a lot of things to take into consideration there for sure. Lauren: Yeah. I think she said that they charted from the time his butt came out is what they told her and with a breech, you're supposed to chart once the shoulders are out. Meagan: Yeah, the shoulders and the neck. That makes sense that they got that mixed up. Well, I wanted to go over the different types of breech. You already said this earlier that it's kind of crazy that 3-4% of people will have a full-term breech and I know baby number one was 36 weeks but pretty much right there right around the corner of full-term. But 3-4% and you've had two so it's pretty low but we know that breech is happening. It's just not being supported. I wanted to talk about a couple of different things.There are different types of breech and that is something that I think is important to know. We've got frank breech and that's where the baby's butt is down into the vaginal canal or down and the legs are sticking right up where the baby's feet are in front. Do you know if your baby was frank breech? Lauren: Yeah, they were both frank. Meagan: Yeah. That's typically where a provider, if they are supportive, will allow a vaginal birth, and then complete breech is where the butt is down and both the hips and knees are flexed. Footling is where one or sometimes both– it's like they are either standing inside or where they are being a flamingo and doing a one-foot thing facing down. Or we know that there is transverse where the baby is sideways. Footling and transverse– I mean, transverse for sure cannot come out vaginally. Footling has some more concerns so most providers will not support that. Anyway, overall, my suggestion is if you have a breech, one, know the options to try to help rotate a baby. If you so choose, there are also risks to ECVs. We have a blog around ECV and we want to make sure it's in the show notes. We are going to link some more about breech babies as well but know that you have options. You do have options. It's not like Lauren's first where she walked in and was felt that she was stripped away of all the options. If you're looking for a VBAC-supportive provider, something that I always tell my clients and I need to suggest this more on the podcast is while you are asking questions like, “How do you support VBAC?” and all of these questions talk about, one of those questions is “What if my baby's breech? What does that look like?” I think that's a really great question to add in there because then you can know, “Okay, not only is this provider VBAC-supportive, but they are even breech-supportive.” We never know. Sometimes babies just flip and sometimes they flip in the very end. It's very rare but it happens so it's just really important to know. Add that to your list of questions as you are going through and asking for support for VBAC how they are for breech. Do you have any other things that you would suggest for someone maybe going to have or deciding to have a breech birth in general? Lauren: Just try to be as knowledgeable as you can about it because that gave me a lot of peace just knowing all the facts and just the knowledge. It made me feel a lot more comfortable with it all. Meagan: Absolutely. It sounds like you did. You just told me a stat just barely so it sounds like you are very confident and you know about breech. I would suggest the same thing. Know the pros and the cons of all three– ECV, breech vaginal, and Cesarean. Let's learn all of them. Well, thank you so much for being here with me today and sharing all of your beautiful birth stories and letting me meet your sweet Ollie via Zoom and sharing these stories to empower other Women of Strength to make the best choice for them. Lauren: Yes. I really appreciate it. I was very excited when you asked me to come on. Meagan: Oh my gosh. We are so happy to have you. Lauren: Thank you. ClosingWould you like to be a guest on the podcast? Tell us about your experience at thevbaclink.com/share. For more information on all things VBAC including online and in-person VBAC classes, The VBAC Link blog, and Meagan's bio, head over to thevbaclink.com. Congratulations on starting your journey of learning and discovery with The VBAC Link.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-vbac-link/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

August 30th, 2024 Yow'el / Yahowah is God / Joel 2:15-16 (God Damn Religion - Sunnah & Suratun - A Voice (yadayah.com) pg 500) Yada discusses an overview of the Miqra'ey through the lens of Yow'el regarding end times, and shares details of the future fulfillment of the final 4.  Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company.

Yada yada something about can't pick your family, but you can pick your nose. We let "yada" do a lot of the heavy lifting around here! Russ and Jared are reminding you all that when you're here at ITMT, you're family, as they get into the trailer for A Family Affair (2024), starring best-friends-of-the-pod, Zac Efron and Joey King, as well as Nicole Kidman, Kathy Bates, Liza Koshy, and Sherry Cola. Stay tuned for the full, scene-by-scene breakdown next week!

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August 2nd, 2024 We shared an email from a listener dubbed "Mrs. Harsh" and discussed Yada's reply. The final 20 minutes were spent reviewing Yow'el | Yahowah is God 2:11 (Coming Home V3 - link to be inserted). Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company.

Send me a Text Message!Did you ever feel like you were all alone?  Like nobody sees you or cares about  you.  Nobody wants to know you.  Nobody is paying attention to you. Psalm 139 is a psalm that resounds with this truth, "God is paying attention to you." God knows when we sit and when we stand. His eyes were on you yesterday when you sat down to take a break, and He knows your schedule; how busy you are, all the places you have to go and things you have to do. He's charted our path. He's familiar with all our ways.  He knows the hidden paths we walk; our unseen attitudes, and secret wishes.  He knows more about us than we do.  And here is the most astounding, heart-filling truth, "the one who knows you best, loves you the most." That's yada. Let His yada shape your prayers.

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Julie Francom joins Meagan on the podcast to talk about checking the validity of the information you see surrounding VBAC. There is so much information out there and so much misinformation that we want to help you figure out what is actually evidence-based! Julie and Meagan draw on their personal experiences with making corrections to information they understood and have shared. They talk about how the structure, size, and date of a study can influence the statistics. Julie shares why Cochrane reviews are her favorite.The VBAC Link is committed to helping you have the most evidence-based and truthful information as you make your birthing decisions. We promise to update you with all of the new information as we receive it!How to VBAC: The Ultimate Prep Course for ParentsFull Transcript under Episode Details 03:30 Checking the validity of social media posts08:01 Our corrected post about VBA2C12:56 The production behind a statistic or article18:37 Cochrane reviews19:06 Checking the dates of studies and emailing us for verification23:29 Nuchal cords25:21 Julie's sleep training story29:45 Information at your fingertipsMeagan: Hey, hey everybody. Guess what? We have Julie today on the podcast. Julie: Hey. Meagan: Hey. We're going to be doing a short but sweet, maybe also a little sassy because as Julie has said, she likes to get sassy these days. We're going to do a short but sweet episode on how to tell if VBAC or HBAC or really just anything–Julie: Any. Meagan: Yeah, any information you see online is real or fake. Now, if you're following along on our social media, you likely have seen a lot of our myth and fact posts. I think we share them probably once a week honestly because there really are so many things out there that are myths and things that are facts, but on a whole other side and a whole addition to myth and fact is really what should we be believing? What should we be resharing? Right, Julie? I think that this definitely is something that is close to our hearts at least I'm going to say is close to my heart. I think it's close to Julie's heart. Julie: Oh, for sure. Meagan: We want to protect this community and we want this community to find the real information, and not the false information. We know. You can Google anything. Julie: So much false information. Meagan: You can Google anything and find the real and false information but when it comes to VBAC, like she said, so much false information. We're not even going to do a Review of the Week. We are going to jump right in in just a second after the intro. 03:30 Checking the validity of social media postsMeagan: All right, Julie. Are you ready to get spicy?Julie: Yeah, I think maybe the biggest reason we decided to do this episode and at least for me anyway why I brought it up is because there is so much information out there that looks good, right? You can be like, Oh my gosh, yes. This is amazing. We're passionate. We as in me and Meagan, but we as in you too who is listening. Clearly, you're passionate. But we really need to be careful what we're sharing both from our business accounts and what we're resharing from other people because sometimes if you share this information and it's incorrect and wrong and it goes viral which there is a recent post that has and sparked this thing, and we're not going to call anybody out, but when you share misinformation and it goes big and people start believing this incorrect information, it can really do damage to the efforts that we're trying to make here which is increasing access to VBAC for everybody. If you have this entire group of people who think that their chances of having a VBAC at a hospital let's say are 30% or something like that when really your chances of having a successful VBAC if you get to try– get to try I'm using very loosely– are really between 60-80%. Those are the numbers. But there was a post recently that went viral that said it was around 32% in the hospital and that is just simply not true. The post went viral and everybody is jumping on board like, Look how much better home birth is than hospital birth, but those statistics were very flawed from a flawed study that was super small from Germany 20 years ago. Meagan: Less than 2000 people. Julie: Yeah. Yeah. It could give you some pretty conclusive. Some, but it's not big. It's not a meta-analysis. It's definitely not something to be definitive. It's from Germany and there are a lot of flaws in the study as well. But everybody saw this thing, Oh, HBAC success is 87% and hospital VBAC success is 32%, or whatever the number was. People are like, Look how much better it is at home, and spreading this information which don't get me wrong, having three HBACs myself, I love home birth. I love home birth after Cesarean for whoever feels it is appropriate for them, but I also know that those numbers are just wrong and if you share that information and these people believe it, they might be choosing HBAC out of fear. Meagan: Well, yeah. Absolutely. Julie: Instead of having the right information and making the right choice for them. I don't know. That's what we want to do here. We want to help you spot misinformation easier and learn to question the things that you see on the internet which sounds so silly. For me, I'm like, Okay. Let's challenge everything. But I saw that post and my first thought was, Heck yeah. That's crazy. I'm all for home birth but then I was like, Wait a minute. These numbers don't feel right to me. Meagan: It doesn't make sense. Julie: So then I dug a little bit deeper into it. We just want to equip you with knowledge so you are doing your best to get the most accurate information and spot the information that is not necessarily true. I think we are all guilty of it. I'm just going to keep talking, Meagan::. Meagan: I know. I was going to say really quickly. Just like what you said, you were like, Heck yeah, as someone who is passionate about birth or maybe someone who may have trauma. I'm talking about this specific post but really in any general post, someone who may have trauma surrounding the opposite of what that post is supporting, it's so easy to just be like, Boom. Share. You know?Julie: Yeah, you'd be like, Oh my gosh, yes. I love HBAC. Let's share this. Let's increase VBAC. Everyone needs to hear this. This is important information. We get excited, right? Meagan: Right, but we need to do exactly what Julie said and take a step back and I mean, this goes for anything. It might be sharing the correct age of a child being out of a car seat. I mean, just random and you're like, Yeah, that looks good. Boom. Share. Make sure that you are sharing the right stuff. 08:01 Our corrected post about VBA2CMeagan: So let's talk about this. Keep going, Julie. I know you were on a tangent going into it. Let's talk about how to understand if it's real. Julie: Well, first of all, I think before we do that, I want to admit that we have been guilty of sharing, I don't want to say misinformation because I guess it kind of was. A few years ago, we misquoted an ACOG bulletin about VBAC. Meagan: Yeah. Julie: It was me. I did it. It was me. I'm the problem, Taylor Swift fans. What had happened was that ACOG, in their bulletin about VBAC after two C-sections, cited two studies. One study that they cite– first of all, they say that VBAC after two Cesareans is a safe and reasonable option for parents to attempt and the decision should be patient-based. Anyways, so they cite two studies. One study that they cited about VBAC after two Cesareans shows no increase in rupture rates with VBAC after two Cesareans compared to one. The second study that they cited showed risk of almost double the rupture rate for VBAC after two Cesareans compared to one. It's really interesting because they cite these two studies that are equally credible that had drastically different results. So when I made the post, I paraphrased the bulletin that said something to the effect of, “VBAC after two Cesareans shows no increase of rupture risk.” Now, that was only really kind of half true because I saw the study and I was like, Oh my gosh, like Meagan:: said, This is exciting! Everyone needs to know this. I made the post then we started getting some kickback on it and so we looked again because I was like, Oh, well I will show you where in the ACOG bulletin it says this, and then I went and I was just like, Oh yeah, it doesn't say exactly that. I unknowingly spread this misinformation so what we did is we updated the post and we posted an additional post that was a correction because here at The VBAC Link, we want to make sure we are giving you 100% accurate information all of the time. The reality is that we are humans. We are going to make mistakes sometimes but as soon as we realize that we make these mistakes as long as they are actual mistakes and not just people wanting to talk crap, we're going to correct ourselves. That's the biggest thing. I want to say that it's okay to not be perfect all of the time, but I think it's also important that when you realize you've made a mistake that you correct it in the same space that you made it. Anyway, I just wanted to say that. Meagan: Yes, not wanting to shame anyone for being excited and making these posts. Julie: You should be excited. We're excited. Meagan: Yeah. We were really excited to even see that post earlier and then we had to take a step back. It's not to even shame that person. They are probably really excited to share that information but again, as a poster, one, take a step back before you share, and two, take a step back before you post. If you post and there is question which unfortunately there were a lot of questions on this post, change it. It's okay. It's okay to be like, Oh, I actually misunderstood this. Julie: Update it. I didn't see this. Yes. Meagan: Or, I didn't realize this wasn't as credible as it felt. Julie: Or seemed. Right. Meagan: One of the best ways to find out of the research or the study or what you are looking at is really, really credible is if it's peer-reviewed honestly. Right? Julie: Right. I think before you even go into that is if you see data or information like this post shared and it doesn't seem quite right or even if it does seem right and you don't see a source cited, ask for a source. Meagan: Ask for it. Julie: Mhmm, especially if they are throwing out numbers like, Home birth has an 87% success rate for VBAC and hospital birth only has 32%, everybody wants to get on board with those numbers, but there were no studies posted. There was no anything so I actually went on and made a comment. I asked about it and she posted four different studies. I was like, Three of these studies aren't even relevant at all and this one where you are getting numbers from is incredibly flawed. I think it's really cool to get on board with something that shows these fancy numbers, but it's really important to at least see a source cited I would say. Bare minimum, see a source. Ask for a source and then go through and verify the source. Meagan, yeah. Let's talk about what makes a source credible. 12:56 The production behind a statistic or articleMeagan: Yeah. Julie: These are just some things. Not all of these things are going to be true all of the time for a credible source, but these are things to look for and why they are important. Sorry, go ahead. Meagan: No, yeah. I think one is looking at who even produced it. Who produced this stat or this article or whatever? A lot of the time, someone who produced the article may not be the person who produces the stat or the evidence. That's something to also keep in mind just because if Sally Jane at whatever company shared an article, it doesn't mean that she's not a credible person but I think sometimes when we are digging deep into what is credible and the real original source, it will take us to the original source which then we need to look at. ACOG, right? We pay attention to ACOG. Midwifery groups and things like this, we want to look. Who wrote it? I think one of the things is what is the full purpose? Julie: Yes. Meagan: One of those articles that I was reading actually wasn't in relation to what the post was about. Julie: Exactly. Meagan: I don't know if you saw that. Julie: Three of them. Meagan: The purpose of this article and the goal of why they are one writing it in general and what's their ultimate goal in giving you the information. Julie: Right. Meagan: I mean, when I was reading one of them, I was like, Wait, what? Julie: And when she shared these four links and I called her out, I said, “These three are about this, that, and the other thing. They are not related to the other things that you posted,” she deleted all of the other information that she shared and just kept the one outdated German study up. I felt really salty then. I still feel a teeny bit salty about that. But yeah, I feel like asking the author and the poster. I know that at The VBAC Link, when I was there, I tried to really make sure that we did this and I feel like you still do but whenever we post anything with stats or numbers or anything like that, we try to post a source with that every time. Meagan: Yeah, for sure. Exactly. Julie: It's in the course like that. Sorry. I feel like we are going in different directions there so circle back. Meagan: Yes. I think you really need to break it down and look at the ultimate study. If it is saying that you have a whatever success chance of having a VBAC in the hospital or having a VBAC in general and you're looking at the stats, if you're looking at a review that has 9,000 people and then there is another one that has 400,000 people involved in that study, to me, automatically I'm going to be looking at the difference there because to me, 9,000 is a lot but this one was less than 2,000 specifically. Julie: Right. Meagan: So when we're looking at big studies, if you have a very small control group, it's just not as credible as some other sources. Julie: Right. 18:37 Cochrane reviewsJulie: What I really love is when I can find a Cochrane review of something. Cochrane reviews in my opinion is the most credible place because what Cochrane reviews are is they are a meta-analyses of a bunch of different studies. What they do is they find a whole bunch of different studies or research papers or evidence or just huge collections of data. They go through and pick them all apart and find out which ones are credible or which ones are not credible and then they compile the results in those studies to have a bigger meta-analysis which is a collection of a whole bunch of credible studies pulled apart and data presented. I love if I can find a solid Cochrane review because I know that is just about as credible as you can get. Also realize that most studies have flaws and limitations like Meagan:: was talking about. Who is behind the study? Who funded the study? Who contributed to the study? What were the study controls? How many variables were there? Because if you have a study with more than one variable, then your numbers are going to be skewed anyway because these different variables may influence each other. If you have, for example, the ARRIVE trial. The ARRIVE trial we know had flaws. I'm not going to go over all of them but they were funded by a doctor at a hospital whose goal was to show that induction provides the same or better outcomes than waiting for spontaneous labor. That was the intention of the study. When you go in trying to prove something, you're already introducing bias into the study and you could bring protocols or procedures into the study that might not be realistic in the real world that could influence the results of the study which is one of the things that actually happened in the ARRIVE trial. A lot of studies I feel like could be picked apart and torn apart which is why I really love Cochrane reviews and meta-analyses is because you can compile all of these and get more accurate results and information. Also, here's the thing with that study, that one study that she showed that had less than 2,000 people and is 20 years old and is based in Germany, that's not going to be relevant in the current day in the United States. Meagan: That's another thing that I wanted to bring up. 19:06 Checking the dates of studies and emailing us for verificationMeagan: How long ago was the study? If the study was done in 1990 and we are now in 2024, there is a large chance that things have changed either way. Maybe in favor of that or the opposite. Julie: Right. Meagan: So we need to look also at the date. If you are looking at something and here at The VBAC Link, we know we have stuff that was even published in 2020 that there may be a new article out in 2022 or 2023 and we need to stay up to date on these things so it is so important to also look at that date because something 20 years ago or even 10 years ago, that might actually be the most recent study. Julie: Yeah, and if that is, that's all you can use. Meagan: Right. Right. There's that. But there may be a newer study. So again, before just clicking “share” or “create” or something like that, it just goes back to stepping back and looking at it. Let me tell you, Women of Strength, right now, if you find a study online and you are like, Wow. I am really, really curious about this post or about this study or whatever it may be, but you are unsure, email us at info@thevbaclink.com. Email us. We will help you. We will help you make sure to break it down and tell you the efficacy. Julie: The corrected-ness. Meagan: How efficient and correct it is. Julie: I don't think efficient is the correct word. Accurate. Meagan: Accuracy. Julie: Oh my gosh. You should listen to us. We know how to speak. Meagan: Email us, you guys. I don't even know how to use my words but I can tell you how to break down a study. No, but really. Accuracy. That's the right word. Thank goodness for Julie. Julie: I think that maybe a more appropriate thing for her to have said in that post would be like, “Your chances of having a VBAC are higher at home than in a hospital.” That is accurate, 100% because it is true. Out-of-hospital births, at least around here in Utah. I can't speak to other parts of the country so maybe I should say that. Around here in Utah where we are, I can confidently say probably in other parts of the country too, when you have a skilled home birth midwife and you are a low-risk pregnancy and VBAC does not make you high-risk P.S., you have a much higher chance. Now, there are no studies done here in Utah, but we have seen a lot. I mean, there is this Canadian home birth study that was just done that took a look at VBAC as well that showed some similar things but we know that the American Pregnancy Association says that women who attempt a VBAC have between 60-80% chance of getting a VBAC. Now, around here, we in our birth centers and out-of-hospital births and home births see over 90% of that success rate in all of the midwives and stuff like that who we have seen and talked to who have shared their data with us. That is good data. Meagan: It is pretty high here. We are lucky here. I have only seen out of 10 years of doing births two VBAC transfers and actually, the one was because she really just wanted an epidural. That's the only reason why she left and the second one was because we did have quite a stall. I think it all was a mental thing. I think she actually needed to be at the hospital and then they still had VBACs so that's great. Julie: For sure. I've seen one transfer, but that cord was wrapped around that baby's neck four times and they had to cut the cord before they took the baby out via Cesarean. Meagan: Whoa. 23:29 Nuchal cordsJulie: Nuchal cord, a cord wrapped around the neck most of the time is not a need for a Cesarean, but this mom pushed and pushed and pushed at home for hours. We transferred and got her an epidural. Baby's heart rate started to not do good. They took her back for a C-section. The cord was wrapped around its neck four times and they couldn't even take the baby out because it was wrapped so tightly. They had to cut the cord in four places before they could pull the baby out by C-section. Meagan: Wow, wow. Julie: Wild, right? That was an absolutely necessary Cesarean. That baby was not coming out. Absolutely necessary. And things like that are going to happen and it's cases like that where we are so grateful for C-sections. This is one of those things where if it had been 300 years ago, mom and baby probably would have died because that baby was so wound up in there. This was one of those true cases. Most of the time when people say that, it's not true in my opinion. Don't cite me. Meagan: Okay, well the true takeaway from today's episode is to check your facts and if you see something that doesn't feel right, check it again but don't just share it and ask for the source if there's not a source. Check if it's peer-reviewed. Check if it's a Cochrane review and all of these things. Again, check the date. Check the amount of people who were in it. Really do your research and if you do have a question, please do not hesitate to email us at info@thevbaclink.com. We'd be glad to help you decipher if that is a good and factual or not-so-factual article or stat or whatever it may be. Julie: Whatever it may be. 25:21 Julie's sleep training storyJulie: Do you know what is funny? Let me throw out another example really fast and then we will wrap this thing up. Years and years and years ago, nine years ago– my first VBAC baby just turned 9. After he was born, oh my gosh. All the things. I had all of the mental health things. One of my biggest things was that I thought, this is probably going to be a little controversial. I thought that in order to be a good mom, I had a checklist because I wasn't going to have a NICU baby. I wasn't going to have the same situation. I thought it had to be completely different. I had to breastfeed. I had to go and get him every single time he cried right away instantly and drop everything. I thought I had to do all of these X, Y, and Z things. What is that method called? It starts with a W I think. Anyway, it's kind of a modified version of crying it out. You let them cry for a minute and then two minutes or whatever. It worked really well and he is still my best sleeper to be honest. I thought, Oh my gosh. I am so bad. I can't believe I damaged my child. Yada, yada, yada and there are probably people listening right now who are like, Well, you did damage your child by doing that. But anyway, he's damaged for other reasons but not that one. So with my second, I wasn't going to do it because there was a study that showed that babies who were left alone to cry it out had the stress part of their brain remain activated up to an hour after they stopped crying and all of these things. I was like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe I did that. I'm the most horrible mom ever.Clearly, I think differently now, but I paid a postpartum doula to come in and help me learn how to gently encourage them to sleep. Well, it turned out my stinking baby would cry in his sleep. He would cry while he was sleeping. Meagan: Oh, no way. Julie: I would go in there and I would be like, Oh, super mom to the rescue. I would pick him up and wake my baby up who proceeded to cry for two hours because he couldn't go back to sleep because I was waking him up. Anyway, it was this whole thing. I know, stupid right? Every baby is different. But my point is that this study which everybody was sharing about the damages of crying it out and how we are damaging our children and they are going to grow up to be people who feel unloved– that was the thing. Do you remember that? Do you remember that? It was 9 years ago or so, maybe a little bit more recently than that. The study had four babies in it. Four, Meagan::. Four babies. Meagan: Four? Julie: Four. And these babies were in a hospital environment in those little plastic bassinets so not only were there only four babies, but they were monitoring them in an environment that is unfamiliar and not letting their caretaker come in and soothe them at any time during this study. Meagan: What? Julie: Yes. Don't let your baby cry until they throw up for sure. Go and soothe your baby, but four babies in an unfamiliar environment without their caretaker there at any part of it. Meagan: Wow. That was enough to say that that was– Julie: Yes. This is where all of these advocates for not letting your baby cry at all got their information from. Isn't that ludicrous? That is insane, right? Meagan: That is insane. That just means that we need to take a steb back, look at what we are sharing, don't just share it, and always look at the study. Always, always, always look at the study. Julie: Absolutely. And look at the damage that did to my mental health and not only me, everybody else's. I know I'm not the only one. So seriously, dig in deep and trust your intuition and follow your instincts. You know what's right. Going on the tangent for your baby, but also if you see something that feels a little strange or is showing numbers without information, ask for evidence. Ask for proof. Where did you get that information from? 29:45 Information at your fingertipsJulie: Because we have, I will say this and then we will close it up. I promise. I hate it when people say, “Oh, don't confuse your Google search for my medical degree.” Well, that's B.S. because do you know how many times I've seen doctors Google something while I've been in their office? Yeah, for real. First of all, not saying that a Google search is the equivalent of a medical degree at all. I know way more goes into that. But, we have access to the largest database of information that was ever existed in the entire history of humanity. We have access to Google. There's Google. There's Google Scholar and if you know how to distinguish between credible versus non-credible information, there is so much power in a Google search that you can use to help you in anything you need to know. Anything in the entire world. Should you have a doctor? Sure. You absolutely should. But also, you know yourself and you have access to all of this information and it's a very powerful tool that we have and we should be really grateful for it because we don't have to rely 100% on other people with a different knowledge than us anymore. So don't discount that. Don't discount your ability to find out if something is credible or not because you have access to that power at your fingertips. It's pretty freaking amazing. Okay, done.Meagan: It is. Okay, done. All right, Women of Strength. We are going to let you go. We said it was going to be a quick one. It really was and hopefully, you got some information and will feel more confident in going out and looking at all of the many things that it said about VBAC. I honestly think that is another reason why we created our course, Julie, because we were so easily able to find so many things that were false out on the internet and we wanted to make sure that all of the real, credible sources were in one place. So find those places, you guys. Check out our blog. Check out the podcast. We have lots of links. Check out our course. So many amazing things. So many great stats. And hey, if you find a stat and find something within our blog and you are like, Oh my gosh, I've seen something new, let us know for sure. We want to make sure that the most up-to-date information is out there. So we do not hesitate to take any suggestions. If you see something, question us for sure. Please, please, please because like Julie said earlier, sometimes people misunderstand or misword or whatever and we want to give them credit but we really want to make sure that the right information is given to you. Julie: Absolutely. Meagan: Without further ado, I'm going to say goodbye and I love you. Bye. Julie: Without further ado, we will say adieu. Meagan: We will say goodbye. Julie: Bye. ClosingWould you like to be a guest on the podcast? Tell us about your experience at thevbaclink.com/share. For more information on all things VBAC including online and in-person VBAC classes, The VBAC Link blog, and Meagan::'s bio, head over to thevbaclink.com. Congratulations on starting your journey of learning and discovery with The VBAC Link.Our Sponsors:* Check out Dr. Mom Butt Balm: drmombuttbalm.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-vbac-link/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

June 14th, 2024 Mizmowr / Lyrics to be Sung / Psalm 5:1-8 (Coming Home - Qowl - Make This Known (yadayah.com) pg 131 - 144). Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company. 

June 7, 2024 Join Kirk and Dee as we reviewed the details of the Shabuw'ah menu, along with counting the Shamitah and Yowbel!  Shamitah.pdf (yadayah.com) 'Elyah Taken (shamartowrah.com)    Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company. 

Al and Kevin talk about the people they wish were marriage candidates Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:02:18: What Have We Been Up To 00:07:01: Marvelous Game Showcase 00:28:38: New Games 00:33:40: Other Game News 00:49:36: People We Want As Marriage Candidates 01:15:43: Outro Links Marvelous Game Showcase Harvest Moon: Home Sweet Home Gourdlets Release Date Slime Rancher 2 0.5.0 Update Paleo Pines 1.4.3 Update Minami Lane 1.1 Update Potion Permit Complete Edition Sakuna Anime Contact Al on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheScotBot Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:31) Al: Hello farmers and welcome to another episode of The Harvest Season. (0:00:37) Al: My name is Al and we’re here today to talk about cottagecore games, woohoo, woohoo, wow. (0:00:38) Kev: My name is Kevin last I checked (0:00:45) Kev: Whoo (0:00:46) Kev: Like cottage snore games. I’m kidding. No, actually it’s very exciting today. We have a lot of views (0:00:51) Al: I was gonna say, I was gonna say, are you Johnny? (0:00:54) Al: Like that’s, feels like something he would say. (0:00:56) Kev: No, no, I just I I don’t think that jokes been made yet. Um, I had to seize the opportunity (0:01:01) Al: I’ll need to search through the transcripts to see if it’s been said or not, but you’re (0:01:05) Al: right, I don’t remember it being said. (0:01:08) Al: All right, this episode, our main topic, if you will, although I suspect it will be the (0:01:15) Al: smallest part of the episode, but we’ll see, our main topic is people in cottagecore games (0:01:22) Al: that we want as marriage candidates that currently are not available as marriage candidates. (0:01:27) Al: This is the third of the trilogy of our marriage candidates. (0:01:30) Kev: Yeah, I get that the new that’s the you know, the last of news regards last minute last minute is so big (0:01:38) Kev: Like I forgot that’s what we’re here to talk of (0:01:39) Al: You’re like, oh, yeah, we’re actually we’re going to do that. (0:01:42) Al: Yeah, we’ve got that bit to do as well. (0:01:43) Kev: Yeah, I’m glad you also specified a (0:01:47) Kev: Cottagecore games, right because unfortunately I can’t talk about Jenny from high school (0:01:55) Al: Before that, we have some news. (0:01:58) Al: We have just some generic news. (0:02:01) Al: We also have some new games announced and we have we’re going to talk about (0:02:06) Al: marvellous games showcase, that’s marvellous (0:02:09) Al: the games company not marvel the comics company marvellous so we’re going to (0:02:16) Al: talk about that but first of all Kevin what have you been up to (0:02:21) Kev: Um, so, not, I mean, okay. (0:02:25) Kev: A lot of my pre times being consumed by fable them, the 1.0 came out. (0:02:29) Kev: I picked it up. (0:02:30) Kev: I’m playing it. (0:02:31) Kev: I’m enjoying it. (0:02:32) Kev: It’s, it’s the village builder I wanted. (0:02:36) Kev: I’m doing it. (0:02:37) Kev: Um, you know, I, like, I could go into detail, but that’s probably better for (0:02:42) Kev: another time, um, just, it’s really good. (0:02:43) Al: Yes. Yes, I’m sure you’ll go into detail on it on a future episode. (0:02:45) Kev: I enjoy it. (0:02:45) Kev: Thumbs up. (0:02:46) Kev: Um, when uh, uh, (0:02:51) Kev: um, uh, so that’s when I need the chill to, you know, brain dead game, more or less. (0:02:59) Kev: Uh, when I do feel like actually playing, I picked up some fighting games this week. (0:03:05) Kev: Uh, again, in particular, uh, Street Fighter 6 is the big one because they had, uh, the last of their wave of season one DLC or whatever dropped. (0:03:16) Kev: They added Akuma, who’s a big scary guy, both as a character. (0:03:21) Kev: I’m enjoying getting back into that. I am bad, I have lost everything, I feel worse than ever, but I am still playing. (0:03:32) Kev: So, you know, fighting games. (0:03:32) Al: when you when you said that you’re you’re bad I was going to say obvious the (0:03:35) Kev: What about you, Al? What have you been up to? (0:03:38) Kev: Okay, go ahead. (0:03:40) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:03:42) Al: important thing is that you’re enjoying it and then you immediately followed up (0:03:45) Al: with I feel worse than ever about it so I was like mmm well awkward well we love (0:03:51) Kev: Yeah, well, look, we’re Pokemon fans. (0:03:55) Kev: We’re gluttons for punishment. (0:03:58) Al: Okay, what have I been asking for? (0:04:02) Al: I have picked up Starstruck Thagobond, which came out about a week ago as we’re recording. (0:04:10) Al: And yeah, I’m enjoying it so far. We’ll see where it goes and how much I enjoy it, etc, etc. (0:04:20) Al: I also may well go into more detail on that in the future episode. (0:04:26) Kev: Okay. [laughs] (0:04:28) Al: I’ve… (0:04:32) Al: Yes, yes it does. I have also been playing more farm RPG, which was, (0:04:39) Al: I don’t know if you’ve listened to this week’s episode or not, Kevin, because it’s only two days (0:04:42) Al: since it came out. Well, that’s what we were talking about me and Cody, and I have continued (0:04:42) Kev: I’m… Yeah, no, I have not caught up on that. (0:04:49) Al: to play it, so I don’t know how long I will continue to play it for, but it is, it’s very (0:04:52) Kev: Hey, well, there you go. (0:04:55) Al: much my just, I’ve just been kind of tapping buttons on mobile when I feel like it sort of thing for it, (0:05:01) Al: So. (0:05:03) Al: Yeah, I have been, I have been playing that. I don’t know if enjoying is the right word. (0:05:04) Kev: You enjoy the number go big some people do (0:05:09) Al: It’s like, do you, it’s like if you play cookie clicker, do you enjoy that? (0:05:13) Al: Is it? I don’t know. Yeah. Yeah. Enjoy is just an interesting word for it. Anyway, (0:05:21) Kev: That’s that (0:05:23) Al: we don’t need to get into that. And I’ve been playing some more Pokemon, as usual. It’s, (0:05:28) Al: It’s raid weekend, Kevin, so I’ve done the raid this weekend. (0:05:32) Al: I thought you were going to say Street Fighter 6 has Swampert. (0:05:32) Kev: Who’s rate or what is being attacked? What is that a Swampert? You know, what’s crazy? (0:05:41) Kev: What if I told you Street Fighter 6 introduced rates (0:05:48) Kev: No, no, I wish (0:05:49) Al: How does a raid work in a fighting game, a one-on-one fighting game? (0:05:54) Kev: Yeah (0:05:56) Kev: Basically, you’ve got to beat up a bunch you beat up X number of opponents or whatever and you (0:06:02) Kev: Earn attack points and then those attack points are used to fire a big cannon at a big scary version of Akuma in this case (0:06:12) Kev: To whittle down. It’s held to a zero and rewards are based on how much you contribute yada. Yada (0:06:18) Kev: Obviously, it’s not actually like a (0:06:20) Al: Yeah, yeah, it’s it’s like a yeah, it’s a it’s a whole world sort of get a big number type thing. (0:06:22) Kev: You know cooperative thing (0:06:27) Kev: Yeah, yeah, it’s a goal like like those Sun and Moon events you remember back (0:06:32) Al: Yes, I do. (0:06:33) Kev: 8 billion eggs or whatever. Yeah, I like that. But okay Swampert’s cool. I like Swampert. They should bring (0:06:42) Al: Well maybe they will with this upcoming game. (0:06:46) Kev: I hope so. (0:06:46) Kev: Yeah, I know. (0:06:48) Kev: I’m so excited. (0:06:48) Kev: Oh my gosh, we’re back. (0:06:51) Al: Excited but excited-ish. Excited for what could be. (0:07:00) Kev: Yeah, yeah. (0:07:02) Al: All right let’s talk about we’re gonna first talk about the Marvelous game (0:07:06) Al: showcase. It’s interesting. Marvelous game showcase. It’s not games. (0:07:12) Al: It makes it sound like they’re just showcasing one game but it was definitely (0:07:15) Al: multiple games. Well it was multiple games kind of because we didn’t really (0:07:20) Al: get any details about anything. Are you excited about Far Magia? (0:07:22) Kev: Speaking of being excited for what COULD be… (0:07:29) Al: The concept of it anyway. (0:07:31) Kev: Uh, okay. So… (0:07:35) Kev: What is the concept? (0:07:36) Al: Well that’s a good question. So Far Magia is their first. They (0:07:41) Al: He originally announced this game a year ago. (0:07:42) Al: This is going to be, you’re going to hear this a lot in this section. (0:07:47) Al: They originally announced this game a year ago at the Marvelous Game Showcase (0:07:50) Al: 2023 as Project Magia, and they didn’t really say anything about it. (0:07:55) Al: They just said, we’re making it. (0:07:57) Al: And then they’ve shown a little cut scene, game introduction type thing with a bunch (0:08:04) Al: of characters and they went into detail about some of the characters. (0:08:07) Al: And that’s, that’s it. (0:08:08) Al: We still don’t have any game, game footage, gameplay. (0:08:12) Al: We don’t have any real information about the game itself, like what actually is it. (0:08:18) Al: I’m assuming it’s going to be a farming game based on the name, but I might be wrong. (0:08:24) Kev: That would, that would be why, I mean, yep, right. (0:08:24) Al: Because my assumption is it’s farm, magia, as in like magic farm, that’s my assumption. (0:08:32) Al: But it could, it might be far. It might not be farm, it might be far. (0:08:38) Al: Because we didn’t even hear them say the name because it was said in Japanese. (0:08:42) Kev: Oh, no, you’re right (0:08:42) Al: I assume a lot of things, but my current assumption is it’s farm, magia. (0:08:48) Al: And it’s going to be a magic based farming game. (0:08:48) Kev: Well, and I mean, you know (0:08:53) Kev: Given this company’s history you would expect that right? (0:08:56) Al: You would, yeah, you would think so. (0:08:58) Kev: But like I don’t yeah, yeah, that’s a reasonable assumption (0:09:03) Kev: But like at the same time, I don’t think we actually saw any sort of form ish related thing (0:09:08) Al: No, nothing. (0:09:10) Kev: But we did see Wasmoth. (0:09:12) Kev: Monster collecting, or monster fighting, yeah I don’t know. (0:09:14) Al: Monster fighting. I don’t think there was any collecting, but there was there was definitely fighting of some kind. (0:09:18) Kev: Well, there were different kinds of monsters it might be collecting, who knows. (0:09:23) Kev: It’s popular with the kids. (0:09:25) Kev: Um, and, yeah, I want to be excited, oh okay, okay. (0:09:30) Al: Oh we do actually see a farm. We do see a farm. I’ve just noticed four minutes and 58 seconds into (0:09:37) Al: the video, the showcase, we see what we see. This looks like a farm with moving plant, (0:09:39) Kev: Okay let me, let me look at that. (0:09:42) Kev: No, so there’s, there’s don’t. (0:09:47) Al: they look like they might be creatures. It’s it’s like literally shown for a second. (0:09:54) Al: And it’s like little tails waggling. (0:09:54) Kev: going through but yeah I mean that I mean you know obviously there’s a few (0:10:00) Kev: people there’s a few does room fact like someone’s never actually played a room (0:10:04) Kev: factory game does room factory combined monsters with your farming and whatnot (0:10:08) Al: Yeah, it’s basically it is essentially just a farming game, but with much more emphasis (0:10:14) Al: on the fighting. (0:10:16) Al: So think of it, I mean, it’s actually not miles away from what Stardew is right with (0:10:23) Al: the cave and with the skull cavern and stuff like that because Stardew has quite a few (0:10:28) Al: different areas now with monsters. (0:10:32) Al: But it’s much more like there is a story to that, to the monster fighting as well. (0:10:38) Al: Like you’re going out and trying to find your way through an area for a story whereas in (0:10:39) Kev: - Yeah. (0:10:43) Al: Stardew you’re doing it because it’s there, you know. (0:10:48) Kev: OK, right. I get you. (0:10:52) Al: So yeah, the fighting isn’t the unique thing, the kind of the story around why you’re fighting (0:10:52) Kev: Well, hopefully. OK. (0:10:57) Al: and what you’re doing and why you have amnesia. (0:10:58) Kev: Now, OK, I get you. (0:11:01) Kev: Well, hopefully this does combine the two, maybe a bit more. (0:11:09) Kev: You know, I’m always down for that, right? (0:11:11) Kev: Because I feel like at this point, we’ve had a handful of games (0:11:14) Kev: trying to combine the monster catching and the farming. (0:11:17) Kev: but I don’t feel like (0:11:18) Kev: any have actually done it that well (0:11:22) Kev: meshing the two together not not just having them both in the game but (0:11:24) Al: Oh, you’re right, it does look like Monster Collection, because it definitely looks like (0:11:25) Kev: actually you know (0:11:26) Kev: working together that’s what I want to see like paleo pines is the one that i (0:11:31) Kev: can think of that i’ve (0:11:37) Al: they’re telling monsters with cards what to do. (0:11:42) Kev: Yup, that you go triple A, level, I don’t know whatever A, this is Moonstone Island, maybe, who knows. (0:11:42) Al: So it looks like it might be a deck builder. (0:11:50) Al: A farming creature collector deck building. (0:11:52) Kev: Marvelous Moonstone Island, there we go. (0:11:59) Kev: Maybe, who knows. One, one other thing, like, I don’t, I’m gonna, you haven’t mentioned it, (0:12:07) Kev: So I’m guessing it doesn’t hold much weight for you, but they got Hiromashima to work on (0:12:12) Kev: the art, which is pretty cool for people not familiar. He’s a Japanese bengaka. He has (0:12:18) Kev: some pretty big hits. I think most notably he’s called Fairy Tail. The art for the characters (0:12:23) Kev: he has. Very distinct that those eyes are like his trademarks. But anyways, personally (0:12:29) Kev: that excites me. I like Hiromashima, so that’s pretty cool. That’s a good get. (0:12:32) Al: enough so they say this game is in development and will be releasing this (0:12:38) Al: year I don’t think it’s releasing this year like if this is I mean it’s June (0:12:40) Kev: which is wild (0:12:44) Al: basically right it’s June and they they’ve not even shown any game footage (0:12:45) Kev: yeah (0:12:50) Al: or even really given us a good idea of what the game is and they say it’s (0:12:52) Kev: yeah that’s wild to me (0:12:55) Al: coming out this year doubt it we’ll see we’ll see six months you can do a lot in (0:12:57) Kev: I don’t I don’t know (0:13:01) Kev: we’ll see (0:13:02) Al: a guess me I mean it’s it’s very possible that they just don’t want to (0:13:04) Kev: that you can (0:13:06) Al: hype it up too quickly and too fast and actually they are on track to be ready (0:13:09) Kev: - Yeah. (0:13:11) Kev: Yes, I will say that I haven’t, okay, I haven’t kept up with Marvelous' (0:13:17) Kev: released schedule history, but I haven’t heard bad things about it at least, right? (0:13:22) Kev: Like, I haven’t heard huge delays or whatever. But, um, the real question is, (0:13:24) Al: no they don’t they don’t they don’t tend to do they don’t tend to have delays (0:13:30) Kev: yeah. Yeah, so we’ll see. I think 20, 24, it’s, I think it’s possible. (0:13:35) Al: oh except for Rune Factory 5 that was delayed by multiple years but (0:13:40) Kev: Well, yeah, touche. (0:13:42) Al: to everyone that’s listening and screaming Rune Factory 5 yes yes yes (0:13:43) Kev: The question for me is when or if it will get localized. (0:13:54) Al: Yeah, yeah, that’s always a good question because they have… I’m trying to remember (0:13:54) Kev: That’s what I wanna know. (0:13:59) Al: if any… I think Pioneers of All of Town may be released the same time over here, but yeah, (0:14:06) Al: I don’t think they generally… Oh, and the newer Doraemon game, Doraemon, Story of Seasons, (0:14:14) Al: Friends of the Great Kingdom, that released at the same time everywhere, but I think in (0:14:21) Al: general, like a wonderful life was (0:14:24) Al: was like a couple of months, wasn’t it? (0:14:26) Kev: Yeah (0:14:27) Al: And the Friends of Minero Town remake was a couple of months (0:14:30) Al: and Rinfactory 5 was like three or four months. (0:14:31) Kev: Yeah (0:14:33) Kev: Well, I mean that’s a reasonable time right like question the bigger question is the if all right because (0:14:40) Kev: You know, this is a new title and franchise whatever right? (0:14:43) Al: Well, let’s, I mean, let’s put it, let’s put it this way. I, I mean, this was the English (0:14:43) Kev: So I don’t know if they’re gonna feel like it’s gonna hit in the States or outside (0:14:53) Al: language version of their showcase. Now granted it was in, it was all of, they didn’t have (0:14:59) Al: it dubbed, but they did have it subbed and it was a specific version of the video for (0:15:05) Al: the English language YouTube channel. (0:15:06) Kev: That is true, and we get in English official English title for major. You know I take it back (0:15:11) Kev: It’s gonna get localized. Doesn’t think about that (0:15:13) Al: I think Farmagia is just, is just the name. I think that’s what they’re calling it in (0:15:14) Kev: and they (0:15:17) Al: Japan as well. Yeah. (0:15:17) Kev: Oh is it okay (0:15:19) Kev: Well there you go (0:15:22) Kev: Well, they said showed it like in English. I don’t know and that could have been the name in Japan in Japan (0:15:25) Al: Yeah, they called it… (0:15:27) Kev: But with Japanese characters you know I mean (0:15:30) Al: Yeah, I just listened to it, and yeah, they called it “Pharmagia” is what they called it in the in the Japanese. (0:15:30) Kev: But we’ll see (0:15:32) Kev: Okay, Mike. I hope sir hi (0:15:36) Kev: All right, there you go. (0:15:41) Kev: And also, they very clearly labeled other things in the showcase as Japan only. (0:15:43) Al: They did, yeah. That’s a good point. They had one of the arcade cabinets was Japan only, the Pokemon one, and one of the mobile games was Japan only. (0:15:54) Kev: In the crane game we don’t get fluffy cow plush (0:15:56) Al: Oh yeah, the crane game. Well, you say game. I do feel like it’s like, is it a game? Like, this is stretching game quite a lot, like gambling box. (0:16:06) Kev: Okay, that one, that one I don’t know. (0:16:11) Kev: Other crane games, I, yes, I think they are, (0:16:14) Kev: but that one did specifically. (0:16:16) Kev: I don’t know, that was a weird design. (0:16:16) Al: it was very different it was very it definitely looked a very large plush (0:16:18) Kev: But who cares? (0:16:19) Kev: I just want the cow inside. (0:16:25) Kev: Yeah, yeah. (0:16:27) Kev: So just, we gotta plan our trip to Japan (0:16:30) Kev: so we can review the cow plush. (0:16:34) Al: Subscribe to our Patreon! (0:16:38) Al: I promise, Kevin, if we get enough patrons to mean that I can afford to take me and you (0:16:41) Al: to Japan, I will do it. (0:16:43) Al: It’s not gonna happen, but… (0:16:44) Kev: that’d be great yeah yeah we need okay that’s (0:16:48) Al: Next we have Story of Seasons. (0:16:50) Al: So in the grand tradition of this video of not giving us any real information, we got (0:16:55) Al: No real information about this either! (0:16:58) Kev: Nope. (0:17:00) Al: So we got the same little video that we got last year (0:17:04) Al: of the chickens and the cows. (0:17:05) Al: And then they showed us a little bit more of the seasons (0:17:11) Al: and the weather and someone looking up at the sky (0:17:14) Al: and seeing fireworks. (0:17:16) Al: And we saw a horse. (0:17:18) Al: And the one gameplay feature difference that we’re seeing (0:17:21) Al: is there’s a glider, which is interesting. (0:17:24) Kev: Yeah, I don’t know how about it. I don’t know how I feel about that. I don’t know how gliders you’re gonna fit in (0:17:29) Kev: But I guess we’ll see (0:17:31) Al: I mean, it definitely leans towards the fact that this is going to be, if possibly not (0:17:36) Al: open world, but certainly a full 3D exploration kind of farming game type thing, more like (0:17:41) Kev: I imagine, at the very least, I bet they’re gonna have a big wild area type of area, where (0:17:46) Al: how the… yeah, they’re going to do something. (0:17:53) Kev: you can maybe catch canvas or something, I don’t know. (0:17:57) Kev: The one thing that I haven’t paid attention to previously when they nest or whatever, (0:18:02) Kev: but they did emphasize, like, they’re putting a lot of focus on the visuals, and it is absolutely (0:18:07) Al: Yeah, it looks, it looks, it looks fine, but like, I mean, I’m also just okay. Fine. Like, (0:18:09) Kev: the prettiest story of season’s game ever. (0:18:19) Al: but why? Like, I just, I don’t know what I have to be excited about it, other than, (0:18:25) Al: yeah, it looks, looks, looks nice. (0:18:28) Kev: We get HDTaos. (0:18:29) Al: Yes, but what is this game? Like, I don’t know, what is it? I want to know what it (0:18:30) Kev: That’s exciting for me. (0:18:37) Al: is. And like, what was the last game they actually released that was actively exciting? (0:18:37) Kev: That, eh, validating, yeah, yeah, yeah. (0:18:45) Al: I know you liked A Wonderful Life, but you liked A Wonderful Life because you like A (0:18:49) Al: Wonderful Life, right? Like somebody who had not played that before would not be excited (0:18:51) Kev: Yes. (0:18:54) Al: about that. The second Doraemon game was okay, but it wasn’t like exciting and different (0:18:55) Kev: They should be. (0:19:00) Al: from the first, really. The first Doraemon story of season’s game, that was probably (0:19:05) Al: the last actually exciting. (0:19:07) Al: and pioneers of all of town was fine but it wasn’t amazing it didn’t do it I mean (0:19:10) Kev: Well, yeah, I guess we’ll have to see, won’t we? (0:19:18) Kev: Right. (0:19:19) Kev: Yeah. (0:19:20) Al: it wasn’t bad right but nothing about it is memorable like as bad as bad as the (0:19:23) Kev: It was whelming. (0:19:27) Al: most the last to harvest moon games have been at least they’re memorable like (0:19:33) Kev: It is better to be a trash fire than just a mediocre. (0:19:34) Al: pain. (0:19:38) Al: Yeah. So I hope they’re doing something rather than just going, what if story of seasons, (0:19:45) Al: but 3D, you know, like, I hope it’s more than that. (0:19:50) Kev: Yeah (0:19:51) Kev: Well, yeah, well, yeah, that’s a good question. I will have to see who knows (0:19:56) Al: But I’m also, well possibly, I’m also just a little bit surprised by (0:19:57) Kev: Maybe for Magia be the winners (0:20:04) Al: we got maybe a little bit (0:20:07) Al: more than the amount of footage we got last year, a year ago. We still don’t have a name, (0:20:13) Al: we still don’t have any actual gameplay, just some pre-rendered cutscenes. And no idea about (0:20:18) Al: what this game actually is, a year later, after the first initial indication that this (0:20:21) Kev: Yeah, that’s a good point, yeah. (0:20:23) Al: game was coming. And that’s not the last time I’m going to say this. But the other thing, (0:20:28) Kev: When will you say it again? (0:20:35) Al: before we get on to that. The other thing that I’m surprised (0:20:38) Al: by is last year they announced there were two Story of Seasons games coming. This one (0:20:41) Al: that they’ve been talking about now, a single player focused one, but also a multiplayer (0:20:45) Al: focused one. We got no indication that they’re even still doing that at all. It wasn’t even (0:20:50) Al: a like ‘oh we’re still doing this’. Nothing at all. They didn’t mention it at all. They (0:20:55) Al: talked about one Story of Seasons game. So has that second Story of Seasons game died? (0:21:01) Al: Have they decided to just stop talking about it until it’s closer? (0:21:04) Kev: I don’t know became became the nude Damon ex machina. That’s what happened (0:21:12) Al: Right, okay, next we have Rune Factory, Rune Factory Project Dragon, which is not Rune (0:21:16) Kev: So what what else did they talk about? (0:21:24) Al: Factory 6, because as I’ve just mentioned for the Story Seasons multiplayer game, they (0:21:29) Al: didn’t mention Rune Factory 6, even though they mentioned Rune Factory 6 a year ago. (0:21:32) Kev: Yep. (0:21:37) Al: Yeah, I don’t know why… (0:21:37) Kev: I’m starting to get the impression (0:21:39) Kev: they may have made some questionable PR decisions. (0:21:42) Al: Whoever decided what they were going to tell us all that information last year, like, (0:21:47) Al: just silly, silly decision, you should not do that. (0:21:52) Kev: Yeah, although they did give the small disclaimer at the beginning that they were there were gonna be games (0:21:58) Kev: They talked about last year that they were gonna talk about this year (0:22:01) Kev: So they acknowledged it (0:22:02) Al: Yeah, but for what reason, though? This is the thing. They didn’t say why. Right? So (0:22:07) Al: this is my thing. It’s like, don’t announce a game. Because they did this with Rune Factory (0:22:08) Kev: That is fine (0:22:14) Al: 5, right? They announced, “Oh, we’re making Rune Factory 5.” And then it took four years, (0:22:19) Al: was it? Until they actually released Rune Factory 5, and they basically gave no information (0:22:28) Al: for most of that time. (0:22:30) Kev: Yeah, mmm, so look forward to farm Asia is the theme of this showcase (0:22:36) Al: Fine, let’s talk about Project Dragon. (0:22:40) Al: So they said that this is a game where you save the world through dance, (0:22:41) Kev: Dance (0:22:46) Al: but all the stuff they showed us was just pretty standard combat. (0:22:46) Kev: And I didn’t see dancing (0:22:50) Kev: Yeah, I was about to say that it looks you know what it looks like it looks like genshin impact boy, that’s that’s some genshin impact (0:22:58) Kev: Okay. (0:23:00) Al: I’ll take your word for it. I haven’t actually played (0:23:00) Kev: Um, I mean, I haven’t played that much either, but I’ve seen Genshin Impact gameplay and it, it looks very similar. (0:23:08) Kev: Um, but yeah, it, like one thing ever and down here is like, it, there’s no farming that we really saw. (0:23:16) Kev: Is it just the combat oriented one? (0:23:18) Kev: Maybe because brand. (0:23:18) Al: I feel like why would they call it Runefactory if it didn’t have farming in it? (0:23:22) Al: But then I feel like if they were going to do that, they would have called Farmagia one of, they would have called it a Runefactory. (0:23:29) Kev: Well, you know what? The thing is, this isn’t a mainline room factory game. It’s a side game. (0:23:36) Al: I mean you’re right though they didn’t say anything about farming so we don’t know if (0:23:42) Al: it’s got farming in it. We do know it’s got combat which they claim is dance. I didn’t (0:23:42) Kev: Yeah. (0:23:48) Kev: I didn’t see dancing. I wish it were. I’d be excited if it were actually fight dancing. (0:23:50) Al: see dancing either. I guess there’s a bit that I’m watching where they’re they’re fighting (0:23:59) Al: a wooly and it does look like they don’t actually have a weapon and they’re doing moves like (0:24:03) Al: you have a weapon and it’s shooting off fireballs. (0:24:06) Al: That just looks like standard magic stuff in these games, right? (0:24:10) Kev: Yeah (0:24:10) Al: Like it doesn’t… (0:24:11) Al: I don’t… (0:24:12) Al: What makes this dance? (0:24:13) Kev: Yeah, it doesn’t it’s probably just the story whatever it’s probably not actually the game (0:24:16) Al: Yeah. (0:24:18) Al: No information on when it’s releasing. (0:24:23) Al: I think they’d originally said this was meant to be coming out this year. (0:24:26) Al: It’s probably not. (0:24:28) Kev: Yeah, who knows? (0:24:28) Al: Yeah. (0:24:29) Al: Yeah. (0:24:29) Kev: So far, Meiji, uh-huh. (0:24:30) Al: I don’t… (0:24:32) Al: It certainly weirdly seems like the one that’s closest to release, and also the (0:24:36) Al: one that’s possibly most exciting out of these. (0:24:37) Kev: Yeah. (0:24:39) Kev: Because it feels the most real. (0:24:42) Al: Maybe that’s… (0:24:43) Al: Maybe that’s why. (0:24:44) Kev: Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, (0:24:46) Kev: even though we didn’t get the gameplay trailer, (0:24:48) Kev: first of all, we get the release date, (0:24:50) Kev: which implies they’re close to completion to some degree. (0:24:52) Al: Well, we got released year, year, yeah, but I like it’s, it’s a very wide way. (0:24:55) Kev: Release year, oh yeah, yes, year, right? (0:24:58) Kev: Release window, let’s say that, right? (0:25:00) Kev: There is a number. (0:25:02) Al: It’s a six month long window at this point. (0:25:04) Kev: Sure, sure. (0:25:06) Kev: Yeah, but I mean, the others have a much wider window. (0:25:12) Kev: At least, they’re telling us that this game (0:25:15) Kev: will very likely exist from Asia, (0:25:19) Kev: from Agia, whatever they call it. (0:25:21) Kev: And hey, like, what we can in French on the trailer, (0:25:24) Kev: you know, monster catching farming, (0:25:26) Kev: It all sounds fun, so. (0:25:28) Kev: So, yeah, I’m excited about it, and hey, yep, yeah, the Dracula one, yep, that’s, uh, it’s fine. (0:25:30) Al: Yeah, they had a little indie section in the middle as well where they talked about a few (0:25:36) Al: of the games that they are publishing, including Moonlight Peaks, which is one we’ve talked (0:25:41) Al: about before, which is interesting. They’ve apparently said it’s coming out in 2026 now, (0:25:48) Kev: Okay, sure, take your time. I’m in a rush. I’m keen on the game. (0:25:49) Al: which before it was saying they didn’t have any date before, so just updating my list. (0:25:58) Kev: You know how your grandpa. (0:26:00) Al: That is, that is the first game. That’s the first game on my list to say 2026. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. (0:26:06) Kev: You know how it’s always your grandpa or whatever who judges your farm? (0:26:14) Kev: Does this mean we’ll get Dracula to judge our farm? (0:26:15) Al: Yeah. (0:26:18) Kev: I like that. (0:26:24) Kev: There was that Death by Guitar game. (0:26:26) Kev: game. It wasn’t Cottagecore, but you played it. (0:26:28) Kev: It plays an electric guitar. I think that’s red. (0:26:30) Al: Yeah, I kind of vaguely paid attention to that, but I was like, I don’t have the headspace (0:26:34) Al: to figure out what is happening. And there was a… (0:26:34) Kev: And that’s fine. And Pokemon– who thought– I didn’t know Pokemon actually would ever hear one of these, but there we are. (0:26:38) Al: Yeah, the… (0:26:42) Kev: It’s not Cottagecore, it’s an arcade game. Very excited-looking children, but… (0:26:42) Al: Yeah. (0:26:45) Al: I think it actually looked kind of cool because it was like too stuck together and you can (0:26:53) Al: play them individually or you can join up for co-op and it covers all both screens for (0:26:56) Kev: Yeah (0:27:01) Kev: Yeah, arcade machines are cool and like they do really cool stuff in Japan with them (0:27:06) Kev: So it’s a pity they’re dead pretty much everywhere else, but that there you go (0:27:12) Kev: No cow plushie for us (0:27:12) Al: There was a Metroidvania as well, which looked fine, but it looked like a pretty standard (0:27:16) Kev: Yeah, I do I (0:27:18) Al: Metroidvania, right? (0:27:19) Al: There’s nothing like, “Oh wow, it was amazing,” but it was fine. (0:27:20) Kev: Followed Hollow Knight did the Stardew thing where it’s just kind of ruined (0:27:27) Kev: Genre, why why did you have to give it the cape like the Hollow Knight? (0:27:35) Al: I’m looking for my first farming Metroidvania. (0:27:39) Kev: Oh (0:27:42) Kev: I’m trying to think you know Hades 2 has farming. It’s not metroidvania. Oh, no, I’m not it has farming. Absolutely (0:27:47) Al: Oh please tell me you’re joking. (0:27:52) Al: So it’s more like Cult of the Lam. (0:27:55) Kev: And maybe? (0:27:56) Al: Damn, am I gonna have to play this stupid game? (0:27:58) Kev: Because I don’t know if you remember Hades one had the fishing right so they like they said we’re gonna kind of expand on (0:28:04) Kev: That and they threw in farming now (0:28:05) Al: Yeah, the thing the thing is, right, the fishing is just like, it’s not really interesting to me, (0:28:11) Al: because it’s just all of the stuff in Hades between the runs was just things you did (0:28:11) Kev: Yeah (0:28:15) Kev: Yeah, yeah, yeah (0:28:16) Al: to make the runs better, right? Whereas the thing about Cult of the Lamb was the runs (0:28:21) Al: were to make your your village better, not the other way around. (0:28:24) Kev: Yeah (0:28:26) Kev: That’s a good point. I don’t know how far goes into that. I just know farming exists in the game (0:28:32) Kev: I haven’t played it myself or anything (0:28:34) Al: I don’t want to play this game. Don’t make me play this game. (0:28:36) Kev: Cottagecore (0:28:39) Al: Speaking of games that I’m gonna play but I don’t expect to enjoy, we have a new Harvest (0:28:45) Al: Moon game being announced, Harvest Moon Home Sweet Home, but this is a mobile game. It (0:28:52) Al: is coming to iOS and Android in August of this year. So in two months, between two and (0:28:58) Kev: Ha! (0:28:58) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:28:59) Al: three months, but we didn’t get any gameplay footage or screenshots of this game at all. (0:29:04) Al: in this announcement. And it very much feels like they went, “Oh, (0:29:08) Al: the Marvelous Showcase is tomorrow. Let’s announce our new game, even though we’re not ready to.” (0:29:14) Al: Because it was announced literally 24 hours before the Marvelous Showcase. (0:29:18) Kev: Look, there’s no denying that Marvelous has done better than Natsume, but Natsume likes (0:29:25) Kev: to hold up that Harvest Moon logo just to remind them. (0:29:28) Al: Yeah, so they announced this game, all they did was one tweet and it says “Harvest Moon (0:29:29) Kev: Just to rub the salt on their one win. (0:29:33) Kev: And it works! (0:29:34) Kev: It hurts me to see it! (0:29:42) Al: Home Sweet Home is coming to iOS and Android August 2024. Home is where the heart is. After (0:29:48) Al: 10 years of city life, you’re ready to head back home in Harvest Moon Home Sweet Home. (0:29:53) Al: Your childhood friend has convinced you to move back to your hometown to try to revitalize (0:29:58) Al: to be easy going. The town of Alba, I’m assuming it’s Alba, not Alaba, because I don’t know. (0:30:04) Al: Did we have this conversation around the other game? What was it called? Alba Wild Life Adventure, (0:30:08) Kev: I mean, there’s Jessica Alba, right, so I’m going with that. (0:30:17) Al: because the word Alba is also, that spelling is a Gaelic word to refer to Scotland, but (0:30:28) Al: it’s not pronounced Alba, it’s pronounced Alapa. So it’s like, I’m assuming you’re correct in this (0:30:31) Kev: Well, the invisible woman lied to me. (0:30:35) Al: Alba, but I can’t read it and not think about that, the fact that it could theoretically be (0:30:43) Al: Scotland. I doubt it, but anyway, we’ll move on. Back to the quote. “The town of Alba,” I’m just (0:30:49) Al: going to say Alba for now, “has seen better days and not all its residents are happy to see a city (0:30:53) Al: slicker like you back. Can you convince even the negative naysayers? (0:30:58) Al: That you truly have the village’s best interests at heart? And can you revitalize Alba with the (0:31:03) Al: help of your childhood friend and other villagers on your side? You definitely can. (0:31:08) Kev: okay so there’s there’s nothing here like uh let’s be clear but but it’s giving me some ideas (0:31:11) Al: No. (0:31:13) Al: Yeah, that was a lot of words to tell us nothing. (0:31:17) Kev: but it’s giving me some ideas and we get a cottage poor farming game where the residents (0:31:26) Kev: all are hateful and and discriminating and and not nice i’d be down for this (0:31:32) Al: We should do it where you like you get to choose um I don’t know if this is really bad (0:31:39) Al: or not but I’m going with it anyway I’m leaning in you get to choose what minority you are (0:31:44) Al: and then everybody in the village hates that specific minority and you have to justify (0:31:47) Kev: Yeah (0:31:53) Kev: Yeah (0:31:54) Al: justify why you should exist oh no (0:32:01) Kev: Somebody get on this. This is gold. Mmm. Oh (0:32:04) Al: don’t know how I feel about even talking about that. That’s dreadful. Oh my word. No! (0:32:09) Kev: You could you could do some mean stuff at one point they have to burn your crops, you know when they have to (0:32:15) Kev: - Thank you. (0:32:17) Al: - No. (0:32:17) Kev: - Yeah, it’s good stuff. (laughs) (0:32:22) Kev: Hmm. (0:32:24) Al: Yeah, so there’s nothing here about this game, we don’t have any information about it, because (0:32:29) Al: like all of this is saying is basically the plot of every farming game. (0:32:35) Kev: Yep, yep, this this description gave me an another angle to another idea (0:32:41) Kev: Why don’t we do the reverse where you move to the city to? (0:32:46) Kev: Gentrify the village to modernize it ruin ruin the lifestyle. Let’s see that. Let’s see that angle. Come on (0:32:53) Kev: Be the this slick real estate guy (0:32:57) Al: It’s just taking the, um, the Georgia route to the extreme. (0:33:02) Kev: Yeah, yeah, basically (0:33:05) Kev: Thank you harvest moon for in announcing these ideas in my head (0:33:05) Al: You know, you know, there’s a fun. (0:33:10) Kev: Heh heh heh. (0:33:10) Al: There’s a fantastic bit in, you know, how on, in the 1.6 stardew update, (0:33:15) Al: you can pay to find the walnuts on ginger Island. (0:33:18) Kev: Yeah, yeah. (0:33:19) Al: If you do that, there’s a fantastic cut scene where, uh, what’s, isn’t (0:33:24) Al: Morris is sitting on our bed. (0:33:27) Al: Deck chair in the middle of the island with bags of cash sitting around him while his (0:33:29) Kev: Yeah. (0:33:32) Al: parrots go and find all the walnuts is fantastic okay so that’s that’s all of this the marvelous (0:33:32) Kev: You’re the last. (0:33:35) Kev: It’s good, that’s good, I like that. (0:33:39) Kev: That’s, that’s strong. (0:33:44) Al: stuff and the natsume stuff so we have some other game news as well which is a little (0:33:50) Al: bit more concrete shall we say so first of all we have gourdlets gourdlets have announced (0:33:57) Al: they’re releasing in summer 2024 so just to summarize this this was this is it describes (0:34:05) Al: itself as an easy-going sandbox game about building towns for cute vegetable folks yeah (0:34:12) Kev: That’s exactly what it looks like. (0:34:16) Al: you love when you’ve got a description of a game and you’re like yeah that is yeah okay (0:34:19) Al: sure and it’s very sad it like it’s very sandboxy like there’s some bits of them actually just (0:34:25) Al: putting just making. (0:34:27) Kev: It’s that isometric (0:34:29) Kev: You know view with you see the whole island and clearly you can add to it and cubicle or whatever (0:34:36) Kev: Yeah (0:34:37) Kev: Those are some Pikmin vegetable people (0:34:40) Al: I. I mean. (0:34:40) Kev: Yeah, all right. That’s cute. When do they add the turnip boy crossover to ruin everything? (0:34:47) Kev: Does he fit in? (0:34:47) Al: I’m intrigued as to see how well this will work with controller, (0:34:50) Al: because it does say it will have controller support. (0:34:53) Kev: Hmm (0:34:54) Al: I’m intrigued to see how well that will work, because it looks very mouse based. (0:34:57) Kev: It does, one of those vegetable people is cooking, okay. (0:35:03) Kev: I don’t know, they don’t have hands, I don’t know how they do it, but they do it. (0:35:06) Al: You don’t need to question these things (0:35:10) Kev: Also, this isn’t their fault, but (0:35:14) Kev: Ooblets has really claimed their stake on that name and (0:35:20) Kev: the (0:35:20) Al: let’s hmm well we’ll see what we’ll see what comes of it so they’re releasing in (0:35:27) Al: the summer and I don’t think that’s early access I think that’s just 1.0 (0:35:32) Kev: Yeah, their demo’s out now, so probably. (0:35:34) Al: slime rancher 2 have announced that they have just released a 0.5 update it (0:35:42) Al: doesn’t seem like there’s much to talk about if you don’t already have played (0:35:46) Al: the game. There’s stuff about a new shop. (0:35:50) Kev: Okay. Look, I, well, I get, like, I get marketing has to be a thing, but you can announce your early access. I get that. But after that, I don’t want to hear anything about it until 1.0. (0:36:03) Kev: It feels so weird to me to announce these half updates or whatever. Like it’s wild. (0:36:12) Al: Am I part of the problem Kevin? Speaking of weird update numbers, (0:36:15) Kev: No, you’re not. You’re, no, no, no, no, not by any means. It’s, it’s like, (0:36:21) Al: Paleopine’s 1.4.3 adds the now let me see if I got this, (0:36:21) Kev: ha ha ha. (0:36:28) Al: if I can pronounce this properly, Sarcosuchus, or Sarcosuchus? (0:36:32) Kev: Uh, circus sutures, I’d say sutures, but it could be, because I don’t, you might be right. (0:36:38) Kev: It might be circus, circus, circus, circus, circus, circus. (0:36:39) Al: A new dinosaur. (0:36:41) Kev: I don’t know which one. (0:36:43) Al: - It adds a new dinosaur, that’s what matters. (0:36:46) Al: And if you, listener, are like, I love dinosaurs, (0:36:50) Al: but I specifically wanted the Sarkosuchus, (0:36:52) Al: and I wasn’t gonna buy paleopines until that was in the game. (0:36:56) Al: Now’s your time. (0:36:57) Kev: there you go um I think then that’s a plushie too yep there’s a plushie of it yep a good old (0:37:05) Kev: makeshift um I do think it’s cool that they add more dinosaurs to this game because you know (0:37:11) Kev: obviously that’s going to be the appeal right but but I want a really big on the 2.0 update that adds (0:37:18) Kev: like a whole new class of dinosaurs like the sauropods they were in the game they were just cut (0:37:22) Al: You’d rather wait six months and then get 10 dinosaurs than get one a month. (0:37:28) Kev: Yes, absolutely, absolutely. (0:37:30) Al: I think that’s fair, and maybe there’s a time we need to have a conversation about (0:37:34) Al: this on the pod properly, but I do feel like there’s something big about that, like (0:37:39) Al: there’s something exciting about like the Stardew updates every two or three years. (0:37:45) Kev: Yeah, and like, I think, because like, I mean, it’s Hello Pines is very much in the vein of monster collect the right maybe not as as intense as other games but it’s a lot of the same bones right of collecting dinosaurs right. (0:38:02) Kev: I think monster collectors in general like, because Moonstone Island does the same thing every couple of months they’ll release like one or two new creatures or whatever which in a game we’re collecting (0:38:15) Kev: is a big deal like, I think it’s just not exciting to collect one new one you know, like, I mean, Pokemon right they do they drop, you know, a whole (0:38:20) Al: Yeah, well that’s actually, Pokemon’s a really good example of that actually because I still (0:38:30) Al: play Pokemon Go all the time, Pokemon Go specifically, but I really miss when every (0:38:38) Al: few months they had here’s 10 new Pokemon, right? And now that it’s like every so often (0:38:45) Al: there’s one new Pokemon, you know, because they’re obviously slowing down because they can’t create (0:38:47) Kev: Yeah, or can they? (0:38:50) Al: Pokemon to add in, they can only work with what they’re given. (0:38:57) Kev: We don’t know what what gen 10 will be, could be released exclusively through Go. (0:39:01) Al: Well sure, but that’s still the Pokemon company and Game Freak making the Pokemon up, right? Niantic (0:39:03) Kev: I know, I’m, yeah, I know, I’m messing, but yeah. (0:39:07) Al: cannot create new Pokemon, they can only work with what they’ve got, and so they’ve slowed (0:39:13) Al: that down massively so that they don’t run out, but that just makes it less exciting, right? (0:39:20) Al: Oh, here’s a Pokemon, you’re like, oh great, I’ll go out and catch that one new Pokemon. (0:39:24) Al: It’s not exciting. Yeah, I would agree. (0:39:26) Kev: yeah yeah yeah so um yeah but yeah so that and and again paleo going back to the paleo (0:39:35) Kev: pines thing like it’s like dinosaurs are cool and I appreciate but just and I know they’ve shown (0:39:41) Kev: they had a lot of content or things they were planning to add so I feel like they’re gonna (0:39:46) Kev: plan a 2.0 some sort of big update with a bunch of dinosaurs and I don’t know like I said I personally (0:39:50) Al: It’s possible that they are doing that. I will also say that Paleopine’s works a bit (0:39:53) Kev: Well wait, but it does keep it in the news cycle. (0:39:59) Al: differently to like normal creature collection and you can’t - it’s hard to like just go (0:40:02) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:40:05) Al: out and collect everything, right? So actually having that steady release of here’s a new (0:40:06) Kev: Yeah, it is, yes. (0:40:10) Al: one means that you might always have something that you haven’t got yet, which is possibly (0:40:16) Kev: - That is true, that is true. (0:40:16) Al: a good thing. It’s a difficult one. (0:40:20) Kev: Yeah. (0:40:20) Al: My point is I don’t think there’s a “this is always the best way” because I think we’ve (0:40:24) Al: talked about it before and that I don’t think everybody can do the stardew thing because (0:40:29) Al: you’re not going to be constantly interested in every game releasing a massive update every (0:40:35) Al: two years. You’re also not going to be interested in every game releasing an update every month (0:40:36) Kev: Yeah, I guess. (0:40:40) Al: but be that as it may. Speaking of updates, Minami Lane. Minami Lane. Minami Lane. (0:40:41) Kev: Yeah, that’s true. (0:40:48) Kev: What? Oh, minomulate? I don’t know, whatever. (0:40:50) Al: Minami Lane. Anyway, they’ve released an update 1.1. It has gamepad support and six new languages (0:40:58) Al: and a bunch of quality of life and improvements and (0:41:02) Al: fixes etc. But the main thing is that the controller support and the languages. (0:41:07) Kev: This is the one with that raccoon, the war veteran, right, I think? (0:41:11) Al: No, that was Akka was the war veteran. (0:41:14) Kev: Oh, yeah, no, you’re right, that is that guy. (0:41:18) Al: Yeah, I know this one’s a (0:41:20) Al: a small village builder. It’s not really a town builder. It’s a village builder. (0:41:26) Al: It’s more like a street. It’s like one street. (0:41:26) Kev: almost like a neighborhood builder yeah okay yeah that’s there’s that isometric sandbox again (0:41:36) Al: we love it I have owned this I do own this game I haven’t played it yet (0:41:43) Al: because do you want to guess why I haven’t played it yet (0:41:43) Kev: Okay (0:41:47) Kev: You’re playing Stardew Valley no, I don’t know (0:41:49) Al: nope it didn’t have controller support (0:41:52) Kev: Now I was that I was about to actually guess that after I said that I don’t know I was like I look like oh (0:41:58) Al: if you release a game on steam and it doesn’t have controller support i’m not (0:42:01) Al: playing it until it has controller support because i’m playing it on my (0:42:04) Al: my Steam Deck, that is where I’m playing it. (0:42:06) Kev: Yeah, even as someone who doesn’t have this thing, I feel very similarly. (0:42:14) Al: I feel like if I was like a student now rather than 15 years ago, instead of building a gaming (0:42:23) Al: PC, I would have just bought a Steam Deck, I think, because the portability is such a (0:42:28) Al: huge thing. And you can still use it like a standard PC by plugging it into monitors (0:42:35) Al: and stuff like that. But obviously it didn’t exist back then. Sad. (0:42:37) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:42:40) Kev: Yeah, that’s yeah, yeah, that’s fair. Yeah, I think so and (0:42:45) Kev: steam tech saw like it’s a big appeal of (0:42:49) Kev: The consoles for me or just open the box and play the thing right like in steam deck is very much in the line (0:42:52) Al: Exactly. And yes, sure, it’s something you might have to update more often than you would if you (0:42:59) Al: were putting a lot of money into a high-end PC. But one, you’re still spending less money, (0:43:02) Kev: …Right. (0:43:04) Al: right? Because high-end PCs cost a lot of money. People go, “Oh, well, you can get a lot more for (0:43:04) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:43:09) Al: your money in a PC, sure, but you have to spend a lot to get something better than a console.” (0:43:13) Kev: We have updating you don’t need to update as much. (0:43:15) Al: And two, I can’t remember my number two. What was my point? What was I arguing about? (0:43:21) Al: Yeah. You. (0:43:23) Al: Yeah, it’s just it’s one of the oh, yes, I remember the steam deck is like the baseline now for games. So if you have a game, a steam deck, you know, it’s going to be able to run most games, most games are going to be able to run on it. Not all, but most games will be able to run on it. (0:43:38) Kev: Yeah, mm hmm. (0:43:41) Al: And so even though they might not run the best and they might not have the best graphics, it’s still, you know, you’re going to be able to run it. Whereas if you have like a cheap PC you’ve put together with a bunch of things or you have. (0:43:52) Al: Like a cheap laptop or something, no guarantees there, you know, having that guaranteed hardware that, you know, that someone has played someone, someone else in the world has played this game on that hardware. (0:44:05) Al: You know that you can guarantee that there is somebody that has played this game on a steam deck. And if if there’s an issue with it, they will have told the developer, whereas your random PC that you’ve shoved stuff together may well have some really weird edge case bug. (0:44:20) Kev: Yeah, yeah, you’re right. Yeah, it’s absolutely the (0:44:30) Kev: Consistency that’s around looking for here consistency, right? That’s that’s a big appeal (0:44:32) Al: Yep, exactly. Potion Pyramid have released their Complete Edition. The Complete Edition (0:44:39) Al: will contain the base game of Potion Pyramid and all paid DLC, with over 30 cosmetic pieces (0:44:46) Al: of furniture to decorate your potion house. The Complete Edition will be available as a physical (0:44:50) Al: version on PlayStation 5 and Nintendo Switch. A Complete Edition DLC pack will be available (0:44:56) Al: digitally for those that own the base game and want all the available DLC. (0:45:00) Kev: Yeah, I do appreciate get doing the big everything’s here release including the physical (0:45:02) Al: Yeah, it also seems to be 66% discounted just now. The complete bundle. You can get the whole (0:45:18) Al: bundle for £18, which is only £1 more than the base game is at its standard price. (0:45:26) Kev: Well there you go. (0:45:27) Al: And I assume it’s a similar sort of price in the US, but I’m looking at the non-US price. (0:45:31) Kev: Yeah. (0:45:32) Al: So if you have been… no, you go, nope, you go. (0:45:33) Kev: Yeah. (0:45:34) Kev: Look, I’m sorry. (0:45:35) Kev: Just go in. (0:45:38) Kev: I would just get it. (0:45:38) Kev: Look, I’m sorry. (0:45:39) Kev: Like potion permanently. (0:45:40) Kev: Good for you. (0:45:41) Kev: And I’m looking at the next news items so harder. (0:45:45) Al: All right well let’s go for it then. I could have added this into last week’s episode but (0:45:49) Al: I felt like I needed to leave it for this one because Kevin the Sakuna anime is now going to (0:45:52) Kev: I’m so excited. It’s so pretty oh (0:45:56) Al: be airing in Japan from the 6th of July. It does look really good. (0:46:01) Kev: That’s so close it looks so good. Holy mackerel. They got I didn’t realize that Toho animation like that is a (0:46:10) Kev: An anim

Episode Summary This week on Live Like the World is Dying, Spencer and Inmn talk about bike packing and how cool bikes are. What is bike packing? Where can you ride? What do you need? Find the answers here. Guest Info Spencer can be found on IG @spencerjharding or at www.spencerjharding.com Host Info Inmn can be found on Instagram @shadowtail.artificery Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Transcript Live Like the World is Dying: Spencer on Bike Packing Pt. I **Inmn ** 00:15 Hello, and welcome to Live Like the World is Dying, your podcast for what feels like the end times. I'm your host today Inmn Neruin, and today we're going to be talking about something that I've been wanting to do an episode about for a really long time because I really love to do it. And I think what I'm going to learn in this interview is that I have been doing it really wrong. Or not wrong, but making it so much harder for myself. And it's just going to be...it's going to be a lot of fun. And today we're gonna be talking about different ways that you can travel long distances, or short distances over strange terrain, on a bicycle. And we're gonna be talking about bike packing. But before that, we are a proud member of the Channel Zero Net of anarchists podcasts. And here's a jingle from another show on that network. Doo doo doo doo doo. [singing] **Dissident Island Radio ** 01:27 You're listening to Dissident Island Radio, live every first and third Friday of the month at 9pm GMT, check out www.dissidentIsland.org for downloads and more. **Inmn ** 02:15 And we're back. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. Could you introduce yourself with your name, pronouns, and just a little bit about what you do in the world? And what you're here to tell us about today? **Spencer ** 02:32 Hi, my name is Spencer Harding. My pronouns are he/him/his. I do a lot of things related to bikes and I have for the last...oh, at least 10 or so years. I'm currently a photographer, writer, and editor for a website called theradavist.com. We do all manner of cycling related articles and content reviews. I've worked as a bike mechanic at local community coops and full on bike shops a like, and I've been traveling by bike since 2009 pretty regularly. And that's been a huge focus of my interest in bikes and kind of my forte in bikes. **Inmn ** 03:18 Cool, cool. Um, it's funny because I know you real life and we, you know, we like play dnd together and I actually didn't know that's what you for work. And I just knew you knew a lot about bikes. So cool, great. **Spencer ** 03:40 I don't love that I'll know people for years and years and years and I think in a lot of the communities I've been in for years, no one really asks what anyone does. And it's not really important because we're all just doing these weird niche activities or hobbies together. And it's kind of fun. **Inmn ** 03:55 Yeah. I'm going to immediately go offer a little script. How did you get into bikes? **Spencer ** 04:07 I got into bikes right on the verge of the huge fixed gear craze that happened in like the early aughts. **Inmn ** 04:18 Oh yeah, I remember. **Spencer ** 04:21 So I was in school at Long Beach State in Southern California. I saw some people riding around bikes. It was the begining of my second year of college. I was moving off campus and I realized that I could buy a bicycle for the same price as a parking pass. And it took me as long to ride from my apartment to my classes as it did to walk from the parking lot to my class. So I took the, what, $130 that that parking pass would have been and I bought an old Schwinn off Craigslist. And it's been all downhill from there. **Inmn ** 04:59 [Laughing] I'm sure it has not been all downhill, but I appreciate the pun. We'll get into this later, but I did a big--introduction to me and biking--is that I have always just really loved bikes. Like similarly I had this thing in high school where a car became suddenly unavailable to me. And I lived in like a suburb of a suburb of a suburb. And I was like, can I take my dad's old Schwinn that's in the in the crawl space and ride it to the city? And the answer was, yes, I could. But like, fast forward many years to going on my first bike tour, and we like went over the continental divide and I was like, "So it's all downhill from here, right?" 06:00 [Laughing] That's one of the things. You never trust the elevation profile. There's always more up somehow. You could be on top of a mountain and somehow there will be some more uphill. **Inmn ** 06:11 Yeah. Always uphill. Always. Um, cool. Well. So yeah, let's just kind of happen to it. Um, what is like...what are the different kinds of scopes of bike travel? I feel like there's like a lot of words that were new to me as of a couple of years ago where I was just always "bike touring." But now there's all these kind of other words that people use that maybe seem like little subsets of bike touring, like gravel bikes or bike packin or r maybe there's other words that I don't know about. 06:50 There's so many buzzwords, and most of it is marketing, and like an ever smaller niche-ification of bikes. When we talk about bike travel, I think the word that comes to mind is bike touring, like, everything is bike touring. You're touring on a bike, you're riding, you're exploring, you're traveling by bike. The buzzword of the last decade has been "bike packing." And there's a lot of arguments about what that means, what that constitutes, what's bike packing, what's not bike packing. I won't go down a huge rabbit hole. I feel like the word bike packing ushered in a more modern sense of ways to pack a bicycle as opposed to what was classically bicycle touring. But if you're traveling by bike and you're strapping shit to your bike, you're going bike touring, Call it bikepacking. Call it gravel biking. You can call it...there's a multitude of other things like that. But when it boils down to it, it's all bike touring in my mind. **Inmn ** 08:09 Yeah. Okay. Um, golly, I'm going to immediately go on another tangent because I... [Spencer encourages it] It's reminding me of like.... I suddenly found myself thinking about like, wait, I wonder if Spencer knows the history...like what the history of the development of the bicycle was? This is a question I should have sent to you yesterday. And I mean, maybe you do, maybe you don't-- 08:39 I'm not super familiar. It popped in my head like I should probably do some sort of research. I mean I know the vagaries of it. But nothing specifically. I couldn't sit tell you names or dates or anything like that. **Inmn ** 08:53 Totally. But it's like, it is something that people have...like people have been riding long distances on bikes since bikes were invented, which is something that I find really interesting. Like there's.... Which I know you could take like a rewritten fairy tale and call it like absolute historical fact, you know but have you ever had any Angela Carter books. **Spencer ** 09:22 I haven't. **Inmn ** 09:24 She got famous for like rewriting the for rewriting a lot of fairy tales. And people were like, "Oh, you rewrote them with like a feminist lens." And she was like, "I absolutely didn't. My goal was to bring out the innate horror in all of these stories, and these stories just happen to be really like femicide-idle. And so that reads is feminism because the main conflicts in them are misogyny." But there's this story called Lady of the House of Love. About this vampiress who like lives in a collapsing, ruinous castle in Transylvania and is the offspring of like Dracula or something, who's just like quite bored in the world at this point. And there's this like whole diatribe in the story about this guy who she lures into the castle who has been traveling around France in Europe on a bicycle. And this is my funny tie in, and this is like in... this is like, in the early days of World War Two when this... Yeah, that's what.... And it's like, it's like these little nods where I'm like, okay, it's it's a fictional story, but I'm like, that sounds like a real thing people did, just travel around Europe on a fucking bicycle. **Spencer ** 10:56 I am 100% sure that there is some real world influence. Yeah, there's all those memes, you'll see. Like, there's some Scandinavian guy who just lived by his bike forever and ever. And, you know, big beard and all that jazz. I can't think of his name. But I can only imagine that there's some truth or they met some weird guy in a cafe one day and decided to just write them into the story after that. **Inmn ** 11:23 Yeah. Okay, wait, but back to the things. So if you had to kind of put a definition on what bike packing is, what is bike packing? **Spencer ** 11:37 So I would even back up to just bike travel. So bike travel is riding your bike multi day--so that could include a single night--somewhere, taking whatever you need for that journey, whatever that may be. Totally self sufficient. Maybe just change the clothes and a credit card. But using your bike as a means to explore and travel to somewhere. **Inmn ** 12:08 Cool. Cool. That sounds right. And what.... I guess maybe this.... It's like maybe some of these specific classifications kind of seems like it maybe gets down to what kind of bike you're riding or what kind of gear you're using? Or like something? I don't know. **Spencer ** 12:35 Yeah, there's been some discussion last few years about intent. So by touring, they've gone to the more recreational side of the venn diagram. So people on vacation, people going for a weekend trip, or for enjoyment. And by packing has, since it came at a time when people were packing less stuff on their bikes in new and creative ways that lent itself to more off road or very light and fast travel. So some people had defined bike packing as like a racing intent or like a competitive intent. And there are bike packing races. Someone who's staying with me right now, Austin Trace, she's training to ride the Arizona Trail and possibly some others. And that's an incredibly long distance. That's 800 miles of off road. There's many like 3000 plus mile bike packing races that happen all over the world over. So some people say bike packing for that kind of competitive intent. Some people will say they're going bike packing, when they're going camping for a weekend. There isn't really a line in the sand that I can thoroughly really draw. Bike packing is definitely like a new buzzword that's popped up in the last few years. And it encompasses everything that bike travel or bike touring would, depending on who you talk to or how you want to delineate that. **Spencer ** 14:07 Yes. And this is another fun thing where we have like, you know, all bikepacking Is bike touring but maybe not all bike touring is bikepacking. So all road bikes are gravel bikes, but not all gravel bikes or road bikes. If you really want to get into it--and this is even...I just wrote a review talking about how the word gravel needs to be split into two things because we're getting a recreational version of what gravel means and a competitive version of what gravel means, and those things are very different. Roughly speaking a gravel bike is traditional-ish road bike. You know, curvy handlebars, road levers. You're just getting bigger tires and typically a more relaxed geometry. That's the easiest without going into a whole mess of other unnecessary details, but the just is road bikes with bigger tires optimized for riding on dirt roads, like farm roads, forest roads, things of that sort. **Inmn ** 14:07 Yeah. Okay, that makes...that makes sense. And then there's this other word that I've been hearing people use a lot lately, which is--and by lately, I mean, this is years ago and I'm just like, really behind the the ball on things--but like, gravel bikes? **Inmn ** 15:35 Okay. Where can you ride a bike? **Spencer ** 15:40 These days? Where are there **Inmn ** 15:41 Or rather where are places that you can not ride your bike to? **Spencer ** 15:46 Legally speaking or terrain-limiting speaking? **Inmn ** 15:50 Terrain. Let's go with terrain limiting for right now. **Spencer ** 15:54 Okay, we don't need to dive into like the Wilderness Act limitations on mechanized travel. There are, if you're looking into that, there are so many crazy bicycles out there these days. There are very few places that you could not ride a bicycle. You're looking at incredibly steep and loose terrain or very deep snow or sand. But even that...like there's so many cool things with...like fat bikes have opened up just an incredible amount of terrain and versatility that wasn't available even like, you know, 20 years ago to bikes. And that's even expanding now. I've heard about some cool stuff I can't talk about, but there is some cool new stuff coming down the line that I'm very excited about in the monster truck realm of bikes. So there's.... Off road in the last few years has just totally exploded with gravel, with the accessibility of fat bikes, and like what those can.... So, fat bike, if I'm talking about, you're talking about four to five inch tires. They're just massive. So you run those incredibly low pressures like 10psi You're riding on snow, you're riding on sand, like, you know, that just opens up so many things that you can experience by bike and can travel across. And you can type in "adventure fat bike," and you'll get some crazy shit in fucking Alaska. A bunch of my friends have done it and they're just like...they have little boats and they're putting a bike on boats and they're riding down beaches and like...just places you would never would ever expect you could ride or get a bike to. And they can get a bike there and they can ride it. So there's obviously limitations like verticality or steep terrain but as far as like surfaces, you're...the world's kind of your oyster these days with that. There's so many options. **Inmn ** 18:07 Okay. Wow. Some of those are new to me and I'm like, okay, cool. Cool. Cool. **Spencer ** 18:14 I have a fat bike I just built it. You can come over and ride it. Play monster truck. Come over here, Inmn. I'll show you next time you come over for dnd. **Inmn ** 18:22 Wow. Love it. I, you know, on.... So like a background for me is my first bike tour, I didn't know anything about bike touring. I just knew that I wanted to do it. And so me and my friend Marie, we like...I met her up in Portland and then we rode our bikes to--Portland, Oregon--and then we rode our bikes to Boston. **Spencer ** 18:56 Oh, wow. Okay. [Laughing with incredulity] My first bike tour was taking the train to Santa Barbara with my like messenger bag and then riding back to LA as an overnight. You went full hog. Okay. **Inmn ** 19:11 Yeah, first first time ever riding a bike more than I could ride it in a day. **Spencer ** 19:19 Impressive **Inmn ** 19:19 It...you know, we're gonna go with a blend of impressive and utterly reckless. **Spencer ** 19:30 I know and I want to talk to this in the end too. Like, you can be really reckless on a bike and if shit goes totally pear shaped just.... Yeah, and like the accessibility of things going wrong and the ability to fix those or to get out of those situations is just such a cool component of bicycle touring that you don't get with like cars or motorcycles or, I mean, I guess hiking even less so, like there's even less to pickup. But yeah, tell me the story. How did it all go, you know, on the way to Boston? **Spencer ** 20:05 Oh, those are the worst. **Inmn ** 20:05 Um, well actually, you know, we're going to talk about that a little bit later, probably. But just, as this one funny tie in, was that in Glacier National Park, we met a...we met someone who is about to finish his bike tour. And he had been...he'd ridden the entire continental divide on a bicycle with like a little, like one of those little swivel trailers. **Inmn ** 20:06 Or, actually I don't know what they're called. They're like two wheels, in line. **Spencer ** 20:20 Oh, the bob trailer. **Inmn ** 20:42 Yeah, the bob trailer. Yeah, yeah. And he had crossed the Continental Divide like 30 times or something over the course of it. And it was utterly incomprehensible to me at the time. I'm like, "Are you riding on trails?" And he was like, "Sort of?" **Spencer ** 21:03 If I may do a quick... So the Continental Divide Trail is a long distance hiking trail that is mostly not bikeable due to the Wilderness Act thing with the wilderness stuff. I think the route you're referring to is the Tour Divide. **Inmn ** 21:18 Yes. **Spencer ** 21:20 Yeah. So those things kind of get interchanged, but they're vastly different beasts. The Tour Divide is a very popular off road route that a lot of people do these days and is one of the first mapped long distance routes, and still remains one of the longer documented off road touring routes in the world, too, which is super cool. **Inmn ** 21:42 Cool. Okay, wait, I'm trying to try to follow a little bit of a thread here. [Pauses, thinking] And maybe this is where to start. How do you...how do you start traveling long distances by bike in, you know, whatever capacity, whether you're like, I want to ride to a neighboring city, I want to ride across the country. I want to ride into the wilderness. These are vastly different. How do you get started? How do you get started? **Spencer ** 22:19 So my start was literally, my friend in college gave a talk, and at the time I was a backpacker. I'd done some backpacking, like three, four days. Stuff like that. And my friend gave this talk about how she went to France and took a bunch of kids bike touring and they took all the camping gear and they put it on their bikes and they just rode their bikes for like two months. And that blew my fucking mind. I was like, wait, I could put all my camping gear on my bike and go ride my bike. And this is in the very like first few years of me riding bikes. I was like, "This is the shit. I love this. Wait, I can go camping and do this?" So that was my first introduction. And I literally, New Year's Day, 2009, I took my road bike and my like good o'le Chrome messenger bag and I zip tied my sleeping bag under my saddle rails on my road bike and I took the train to Santa Barbara and I rode from Santa Barbara down like Highway One, like out near point Magoo, and I camped for the night. And I rode back to Long Beach the next day. And that's part of the Pacific Coast bike touring route. So it's just another established route from Adventure Cycling, who also does the Tour Divide, which you mentioned earlier. And that was my first time properly traveling by bike, and I was like, "This is cool." And a few months later a good friend of mine, Julia, who had just ridden across the country, kind of as you did. I can't remeber if she started in San Francisco or Portland as well. But she did that same trans-america ride. And she was like, "Hey, I just got off school. Like, I don't want to drive back to Southern California. Do you want to just like take a bus up here, and we're gonna bike back to LA together?" So I went back a few months later that summer and tried...like I got a different bike that had racks and all that shit and some bags. And you know, as that ball rolls, you get more bags, you get more specific stuff, you get bikes that are designed for it. And then I rode back from Santa Cruz to LA and then I was like, "This is fucking sweet." So, two months later, I flew to Seattle and rode all the way back to Santa Cruz that same summer too. So that ball kind of rolled pretty quickly for me. So, I think it's literally taking...like at the time I had a messenger bag and a sleeping bag and a stuff sack and that was what I took and I had a little tiny pocket stove and a sleeping pad. I don't know if I even brought a sleeping pad. I might not have. I have to look back at the photos. It might have been strapped to my handlebars or something. But it's really what you have. If you have most any kind of like reasonably lightweight camping gear, from car camping to backpacking. Like, all of that gear translates. And if you have a bicycle, there's--especially these days--almost...there's so many ways that you can affix things to your bike. **Inmn ** 25:14 And yeah, it's kind of funny, because I feel like I've seen this funny arc of like "bike luggage" or something. I don't know what to call it. [Spencer laughs] Where, like, when I was trying to get into bike touring, it's like--I'm sure like gravel bike/bike packing/offroad stuff, I'm sure I'm sure all that stuff existed, but I was less aware of it. But in the realm of bike touring, it seemed to be all about like how to like really neatly contain a lot of stuff on a bicycle, you know? And, like, now I see people's gravel bike or bike packing setups, and it's literally just like shit strapped anywhere that it could be. **Spencer ** 26:02 Yeah, so if we're gonna get into like, if we're gonna delineate two words, we're gonna do bike touring on one side and we're gonna do bike packing on the other. If we look at bike touring luggage, or traditional touring luggage, was usually two to four panniers [rhymes with "your"], Panniers [Rhymes with "yay"]. There's a whole video you can watch about someone from Webster's talking to my buddy Russ about how to actually pronounce that fucking word. It's a bag strapped to a rack. You can argue about it all day long. Typically two to four panniers, maybe a little bag on your handlebars, some water bottles, that was kind of the traditional setup that's been around since the inception of bicycles. Bike packing is when we're moving to more off road focus. So you, obviously panniers are just little hooks on a rack and maybe a bungee. If you've ever written off road with those they don't...they tend to eject. I've got buddies who have got busted collarbones from catching someone's unwanted, flying paneer **Spencer ** 27:02 Oh, no. **Spencer ** 27:03 So in the other corner, we have more modern bike packing bags, which arose from a cottage industry of people developing bags for things that they wanted to do that didn't exist at the time. There's a ton of them, like Revelate Designs has been around since the beginning and were big pioneers in a lot of these venues. And typically what that looks like is you have a bag on your handlebars. It's typically a double sided stuff sack, say 10 to 15 liters. Smaller, bigger exist. That's rolled on there, secured with some straps. There's harnesses and all that jazz. A big thing in bike packing that has really bled out to a lot of the other aspects of cycling, it's really convenient, is using the main front triangle of your bike. So bags that fit the center of your bike and fill that space. **Inmn ** 27:56 That's like the spot kind of like underneath where you're sitting, right? It's like the space between the seat and the handle bars, right? **Spencer ** 28:01 Correct. So, if you're thinking about a bike frame, this kind of goes back to the--I wanted to actually mention this in the history too--so a double triangle, like a diamond. So you have two triangles. You have the front triangle and the rear triangle. That design has been around nearly since the inception of bikes and fundamentally hasn't changed, which is kind of miraculous. There's there's always going to be some kooky weird shit that people are cooking up to make bikes better. But 99% of bikes that have ever existed have been the same design, and it's still the best and most efficient. So, you're filling that front triangle with gear. So it's where you would typically have your water bottles and things like that, but being able to put four liters of water, as opposed to two bottles, and a bunch of camping gear is more efficient. So frame bag. And then there's a bag attached to your seat post called a rocket bag or a butt bag or...[laughs] And this is where stuff gets real bondage-y. There's like 17 straps holding those fucking things on. They sway if you don't pack them right. And there's a bunch of designs to make that better, and we're getting really close to really nailing it. So you have those kind of are your three main staples for bike packing bags. There's bags that strap your fork, there's bags that go onto your down tube, there's ones that attach to your stem to put snacks in. If there's a tiny spot in your bike, there's a bag for it, I guarantee it. And those are kind of your two corners of like bicycle luggage. **Inmn ** 29:32 I see. I see. You know, what I.... Something I weirdly really appreciate about some of these bike packing luggage, or whatever, is when I was...when I was first hearing about some of this and I was like, oh.... Like I remember like 10 years ago when people were starting to have frame bags and stuff, and I was like "Where do you get a frame bag, like where can I go and buy this?" And the answer was, you had to just know someone who fucked around and made one and wanted to make you one. And it was like...it's like watching an entire--like, you know, fuck an industry, but it does make it more accessible for people that there's like more people making these things--but an entire way of making things, or a culture of making things, like erupting from like watching some people just fuck around with fabric and like cordura and vinyl and shit and just like.... Yeah, I don't know. I feel like...yeah, it's like watching that and watching the same thing happen with messenger bags like 15-20--I know, it's been more--years ago. But I don't know, it's something I've weirdly always appreciated about like bikes is that there's been a lot of innovation not on an industrial level. It's like on the level of people just messing around with stuff in their garages and figuring out some really cool things. I don't know, does that...does that track? Is that real? Am I under the right perception? **Spencer ** 31:11 100% There are so many cottage bag makers and a lot of them have scaled up and some of them are still really small. And a lot of the innovation is still coming from those cottage industries. Big companies have caught up. So there are a multitude of companies offering frame bags produced overseas that you can get at REI or on Amazon. There's a there's a host of options. Industrial production has caught up to it. One thing that's cool that they will never be able to do is there's a bunch of frame bike bag sewers--builders? What's the word? And you can send them a photo and they've written their various different scripts and computer programs and you send them a photo of your bike with like a ruler in it. And they will make a custom tailored bag exactly to fit your bike where you can put bolts through it, like just over the internet. And that's somethingl.... Like I personally have one from Rogue Panda. Nick is a crazy mad scientist and incredibly innovative. Yeah, you can just send him a photo of your bike or if they have the dimensions already in their system, they just sew you an exactly perfect custom bag. So you can get a bunch of off the shelf things that will work for most bikes, but if you have a weird like I do, or many that I do, you can get a custom one, and that's something that's always going to be around as like a cottage level industry. **Inmn ** 32:38 Um, okay, how.... Or.... Okay, so say...let's say I want to...say I want I want to ride my bike from where I live to a neighboring city. It's like...maybe it's four days away, or something, by bike. What...or, this is a regular thing that I want to do. This is a thing that I want to kind of invest in doing. And I'm asking this from the perspective of, so like on my month long bike tour, I feel like there was a way to have a bike that I didn't fucking hate riding. And so I'm wondering...I'm wondering kind of like what kind of bike do I need to do that? What will make my life be less terrible? I was on an old Schwinn steel frame that I put a mountain bike drive train on, essentially. And some like other mountain bike parts. I like converted it to 700s [wheel size]. I didn't know anything about fat tires. I just had like-- **Spencer ** 34:03 It barely existed back then. So yeah. **Inmn ** 34:05 It was like, I don't know like one and a half inch ties. This is embarrassing to say at this point. **Spencer ** 34:14 That's fine. I can't tell you the breadth of dumb ideas around bicycle. **Inmn ** 34:22 Yeah, yeah. And it's like my life was so bad in comparison to my road partner who was riding a Surly Long Haul. [Specialty touring bike] **Spencer ** 34:34 Yeah. So to segue out of this, if you ask the internet, the internet's gonna tell you the Surly Long Haul Trucker's the best bike touring bike for blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to tell you right now, the Surly Long Haul Trucker rides like fucking dogshit without about 100 pounds of gear on it, and I don't think is the right bike for almost anyone in this current day and age ofbike touring. But let's get into your actual question. So the cool thing about touring is the bags will fit to most bikes without racks or rack mount. So if you have a bike that's comfortable, that fits you, it's probably...it can probably be made to be some kind of touring ready. So every bike is a bike touring bike if you have enough gumption. I've written tall bikes halfway across this country on multiple occasions. So I wanna say that you can always a specific bike tailored to the trip or the adventure you want to go on. But you can probably make whatever you have work. And I could recommend, if you give me more specifics, I could be like, yeah, you should get this size tire. This is a great bike for that. Like, height matters. All right, before I run away on this, let's start at the...let's start at the bike. So more important than any other consideration is whether you have a bike that's comfortable for you? Does it fit you? **Inmn ** 36:07 What does that mean? **Spencer ** 36:09 So bikes come in multiple sizes for different bodies, different heights. Like, I'm all torso. I've got relatively short legs for my height, but I'm like 6'1" so I ride an extra large bike. If you're 5' or shorter, you might write an extra small. That's going to be...those bikes are gonna fit differently. So there's a varying size run. So most importantly, you want a bike that fits you. And that's going to mean different things to different people, depending on if they have any back issues or what have you. So comfort is going to be kind of paramount to start. So your four day trip, is it off road? Is it mixed between the two? Is it single-track mountain biking? You're not going to take your Schwinn Varsity on a bunch of single track trails in Arizona, because you're not going to have any fillings or teeth left at the end of that ride. So, once you have a bike that's comfortable, once you have a bike that fits you, then you want to say, "Does this bike...is it adequate for the terrain?" And that's typically going to be tire size. So tires come in a bunch of different flavors, but you're pretty much looking at anywhere between a 26" rim, a 27.5" rim, or a 29" rim, which is also coloquially referred to as 700c. And those come in--oh my God I'm really in the rabbit hole here--so many sizes. But, so is your bike comfortable? Does your bike fit you? Do you now have the appropriate tire size for the terrain you hope to traverse? And we're going to assume that you have all of those things. And the next consideration will probably be luggage. So how much frame bag space do you have? Can you get a frame bag for it? Do you have mounts to put a rack on the front, or even the back, of the bike? You want to make panniers to go on there? You can strap anything, like anything with the stuff sack, you can strap. I mean the quintessential like bike co-op special is the old kitty litter boxes with hardware hooks and some bungee cords. Like, do you have a cat? Do you use cat litter? And these are all things that can become bike touring luggage. It's so up to you and how you can fit it. I've seen such a plethora. There's such a rich community of people DIYing these things. And there's ways to use like old cutting boards to make handlebar rolls to hold stuff sacks, you know? Like, I could go on and on. So the next thing you want to figure out is how are you going to pack all your shit on your bike? And okay, we've got that. There's a plethora. And next thing is food and water. Is there water available? Do I need a water filter along the way? Where can I get more food, snacks, etc... along the way? How many days of food I need to pack? Those water and food options are probably going to inform how you pack or what kind of luggage you're going to need, beecause those your essentials. Like if you want the bike to move, you have to pedal it and you have to be alive to do that. So you're gonna need to eat and drink. **Inmn ** 39:36 Yeah, can I have a little segue off that? It was funny on this cross-country bike tour, like our attitude about that changed throughout the trip, you know, where it was like--Marie definitely had more like bike touring experience than I did--but like when we started, we were in rural Oregon, we were in Montana, we were in all of these big western states. And we didn't have a water filter, which is probably something we should have brought. But like, you know, we weren't camping. We weren't--or sorry, we were camping every night, but we weren't trying to ride off to find nice places. We were like, whatever's along the road, you know? And so we were like, "Okay, well, we just have to bring all of this stuff with us." Like, I think we had like two weeks' worth of food each and three gallons of water on us at all times. And it was utterly absurd, like our bikes were so goddamn heavy. But we often went a week without going to a grocery store. **Spencer ** 40:57 That could be the reality of your trip. And there's some of these long distance routes, especially the off road ones.... Like road touring, if you're on established routes, like highways or secondary highways, you're gonna hit a gas station hopefully once a day, if not every other day. And like, you know, it's not gonna be great food. But that's...those are all considerations to how much you need to pack. And that's...that's typically the first thing I would be like where's my reasonable resupply? Especially ifwe live down to the desert, like water is the main concern and the limiting factor for a lot of my trips. Like how much do I have to carry? Where can I get it? How can I get it? **Inmn ** 41:39 Yeah, cuz it's like, you're not--unlike being in the Northwest or something, you're not just gonna happen on a stream that you can like.... **Spencer ** 41:47 Exactly. I mean, maybe you can if you know that's there. But that's a big if, and I've planned to get water from a stream and then I got there, and the stream was dry. And I was like, "Oh, this is going to be interesting." **Inmn ** 42:01 But yeah, sorry. You're talking about water, food, etc... I don't know what you were going to say next. **Spencer ** 42:09 Yeah. So once you figured out how much water and food you need to be able to carry between places that you can get water or food, then you're gonna go to gear. So clothing, is it going to be hot? Is it gonna be cold at night? And then you're thinking about sleeping. So tent, sleeping pad, sleeping bag, at the bare minimum. How warm is that sleeping bag need to be? What's the weather going to be like? Is it going to rain a lot? How nice of a tent do you need? How many people are going to fit in that tent? And once you've figured out those things, those are all going to inform all the decisions we made already about like luggage. Like oh, I need to make a three person tent because there's three of us. Are we going to split it? Yada yada yada. If you've been camping at all, you understand that these are like kind of the basic things you want to have with you. Or maybe you're going there's a hotel every night and you're like, I'm just gonna get a hotel in and take a shower, and people do that and it's great. It's a different way to tour. **Inmn ** 42:10 We met someone like that who was credit-card touring, as it's called, I think. And, you know, I have a friend who just writes crazy distances in like single times, but like meeting this person who was like...he had a very fancy performance road bike and a couple regular small water bottles and like some granola bars and in his fucking lycra pockets, or whatever, and a credit card that was it. That was every single thing this person had. **Inmn ** 43:07 Still bike touring. My 20 year old self would be would be shaking at me saying that but still bike touring. **Inmn ** 44:01 Yeah, I mean if you got a credit card and he just like fucking get a hotel every night. **Spencer ** 44:08 But, you know, these are considerations with things. Like, I've stayed at hotels on bike tours. Like I had a real shit day got rained on for like this last trip I did in the Midwest past summer. We got stuck in like damn near a tornado. And I was putting up our tent in the downpour rain and then it was drizzling the whole next day. And I was like, fuck it. I'm getting a hotel. Going off route. I'm going to a hotel. Sleep in this hotel and shower and dry all of our shit out. And these are things you want to consider and this is all part of what goes into considering to go on a bike trip. **Inmn ** 44:44 Yeah, um, so we're getting close to the end of our time for today. I didn't say this at the beginning, but this is a two part episode. And I'm wondering if we could kind of end today's episode with, could you just tell us a story about going on a bike tour. Could have gone well, could have gone horribly. Kind of whatever. Tell us about a trip that you went on and kind of like what... Yeah. Yeah. **Spencer ** 45:21 Alright, I'm gonna tell you about my favorite bike tour. And it will bring it back together because you met that lovely gentleman in Glacier on the Tour Divided some years ago. So my buddies Kurt and Sam--this was 2016--so fledgling days of kinda packing bags. This is when one of the bigger companies, Blackburn, was getting into making bags. They sponsored a bunch of folks to go ride big long off-road routes. My friends got this scholarship sponsorship thing. And I was like, okay, cool, like, I'm gonna go meet them. I just finished up work. I worked as a bicycle tour guide, but the van stuff, not so much the touring that we're talking about, but going to hotels, yadda yadda yadda. And I got off work, drove out there. I took my dad's hybrid from like 1994 and I strapped a bunch of bags to it. And we went riding down. They had like slick bikes, all the new bags. But the fun thing was they were big rock climbers at the time. So we were carrying all of our camping gear and a full 60 meter rope, a full trad rack of cams and nuts and like our climbing harnesses and shoes, and every week we were climbing at least once a week. So we're doing trad climbing up some mountains in Montana or Wyoming or wherever the hell we want that being that week. And we packed nothing. We had.... Like none of us had real tents. We have like one spare tube between us because we just didn't have room for anything with all the climbing gear. It was just so reckless and stupid. We hitchhiked a ton and climbed a bunch of shit that was really sketchy. And it still to this day is one of my favorite memories of traveling by bike, just getting to go climb and just riding those wide opens stretches of Montana, Wyoming, a little bit in Colorado. And it was just the dumbest fun. God I miss you, Sam and Kurt, if you're out there listening somewhere. That was my bike penultimate trip that had been on. It just...it was silly and dumbn. There's photos and videos of that from years ago that I can send you some links to or whatnot. But the joy I still take from those memories and that trip stick with me. **Inmn ** 47:35 Hell yeah. That's wonderful. Um, one of my like, weirdly favorite memories of going on bike tour was--and we'll talk about this a little more in part two--but is preparation, how to prepare for a trip, how tolike plan an actual trip, you know. And me and Marie didn't plan literally at all. We just hopped on our bikes and started riding. Every day we woke up and we were like, "Yeah, let's go on that road. That makes sense. Whatever. It'll be fine." Weirdly, we did end up on...we accidentally ended up on Adventure Cycling routes, you know? Which makes sense. They were the most logical roads to ride on. We just didn't know. But our lack of preparation and planning was actually the most fun part of the trip. **Spencer ** 48:39 So my buddy Kurt on that trip, and we did a bunch of subsequent trips, and I'm a big planner and Kurt hates planning. He made me fly to fucking Columbia with zero plan and like one half contact that we called when we got to Bogota and a bunch of paper maps and was like, "Nah, we're just gonna figure it out." Speaking of accidentally winding up on ACA routes, did you the pro move where you found someone riding in the opposite direction and you asked if they were done with their maps because you were going the opposite way? **Inmn ** 49:11 No, that would have been smart. But we didn't... We met a couple other people on bike tour. We were incredibly surprised. We met exactly three people on bike tour on a two month long trip and I was actually surprised about it. **Spencer ** 49:30 Wow. I wound up on that TransAm for a little bit. And I didn't have any maps because I was being a total of shit bird and would be like, "Hey, you done with that section?" cause I didn't want to buy maps. **Inmn ** 49:42 Yeah, they're expensive. **Spencer ** 49:45 I mean, Adventure Cycling is a really lovely organization that has done a lot of good and they're a nonprofit. Do you ever, did you guys go through Missoula and go to the headquarts? **Inmn ** 49:55 We did. We got the free ice cream. **Spencer ** 49:56 Popscicles and soda. Yeah. Okay, well, that's why those maps are so expensive is they gotta give free sodas and ice cream to all the dirt bag toursists that won't buy them. **Inmn ** 50:07 Yeah, yeah. Cool. Well, that about does it for the time that we have today. Before we go, are there any things that you want to plug, any projects, any places that people can find you on the internet where you would like to be found? Anything like that? **Spencer ** 50:29 Anything on social media, is just Spencer J. Harding. Like I said, I write for the theradavist.com. You can type my name in there and there's a bunch of reviews and trip reports and stuff like that. My website is just SpencerJharding.com. There's a bunch of photos organized there from a bunch of my bicycle travels, if you want to check that out. **Inmn ** 50:50 Yeah. Cool. Cool. And for folks who...just to let you know what we're gonna be talking about next time, next time being next week, we're gonna be talking about how to actually plan a bike trip, what are things you should be prepared for kind of like on the road, why traveling by bike is just a really cool idea--if you haven't been swayed already--what are its limitations, and how does this fit into preparedness models for any kind of collapse or disaster situation that we might be in. So tune in next time. **Inmn ** 51:33 If you enjoyed this podcast, then go hop on a bike and ride around and see what happens. And also, if you like this podcast, you can please just tell people about it. It's the best way that people hear about the show and one of the best ways to support us. But if you would like to support us in other, I think, sillier ways, you can support the show financially. And you can support us financially by supporting our publisher Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness. And the best way to support us is to go to tangledwilderness.org and buy some books. There's some really cool books you can buy. You can buy a cool TTRPG that me, Margaret, Casandra, and Robin wrote called Penumbra City. You can get a lots lots of other really cool books too. And you can also support us by supporting our Patreon at patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. And there's a bunch of different levels of support that you can give us, anywhere from like $5 a month, which kind of gets you a lot of cool stuff. It gets you discounts, it gets you digital versions of all of the stuff that we publish and just like lots of really cool updates. You can also get a zine mailed to you every month, that we put out as part of our monthly feature, which if you also just want to hear those, you can read them on our website or you can check out another podcast that I do called Ttrangers in a Tangled Wilderness, where we take our monthly feature and turn it into an audio zine and interview the author. And then there's another fun part of it, which is that for $20 a month, you can get us to thank or acknowledge anything that you want us to thank to or acknowledge, whether that be you or a cool organization that you want to get shouted out, or whether it's just someone you love and care about. Or as I'm still plugging for, a fictional or theoretical concept. So check us out on Patreon and we just want to give some special shout outs to these folks right now. 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May 17th, 2024 Tonight we discussed Yada's insights regarding Shabuw'ah and the Towrah Millennial Timeline (Yada Yahowah Resources). Join Yahowah's family as we explore the Towrah of God. We will expose religious corruption while most importantly espousing Yah's Towrah truth.  Hosted by the author of the Yada Yahowah series, An Introduction to God, Observations, Coming Home, Babel, Twistianity, God Damn Religion, and In The Company. 

Praise Series | Yada & Towdah Part 2

Ahsoka is accused of bombing the Jedi temple and killing clones to cover up the crime and she's now on the run. The Jedi council, having decided that Ahsoka is guilty, chooses to send the most logical people to catch her: the two Jedi she has the closest relationships with, Anakin Skywalker and Plo Koon. After calling Barriss Offee to ask for help, she is spotted by police, and escapes into the lower levels of Coruscant, where she is captured by bounty hunter Asajj Ventress. Ahsoka offers her a deal - help Ahsoka prove her innocence, and Ahsoka will get Ventress a pardon.Barriss offers Ahsoka a lead - Letta visited an old munitions factory nearby when acquiring the nano-droids used in the bombing. As they depart, they are spotted by Commander Wolfe and his men. Ahsoka and Asajj fight their free, making sure not to kill any of the clones. Once Ventress is on her own, she's knocked out by a mysterious assailant, who takes Ventress' mask and lightsabers - then attacks Ahsoka while in disguise! The clearly Force-using masked attacker manages to knock Ahsoka out and into the hands of Anakin and Wolffe, who take her into custody and back to the temple.Tarkin is SpaceTiming(™) into the Jedi temple with the Senate's demands that Ahsoka be tried for her crimes. Yoda says that Ahsoka will be tried by the Jedi and Tarkin makes a pretty salient point that a bunch of weird space ninja wizards with a penchant for kidnapping young children might not be willing to let justice take its course. The Senate is asking that Ahsoka be expelled from the Jedi order so she can be tried by a military tribunal. Yoda says that the dark side clouds many things, but still wonders who might have force choked Letta if not Ahsoka. Yada yada perception dump stat yada. If only telepathy were a Jedi skill. Ahsoka is kicked out of the Jedi, and stripped of her rank in the Grand Army of the Republic. Anakin tracks down Ventress in the slums and proceeds to get investigatory. Ventress cops to wanting to turn Ahsoka in for the reward, but changed her mind when she realized that Ahsoka was also betrayed by her master and abandoned by the Jedi order. Anakin goes slack jawed when he realizes maybe other people exist in the universe beyond being bit players in his own personal drama.Ahsoka's trial begins and Sheev is adjudicating (and sounding suspiciously like Nigel Thornberry). Anakin is adrift because Ventress is the only one Ahsoka talked to, but AHa! Ventress remembers her talking to Barriss.Anakin goes to chat with Barriss, and decides that only swinging a lightsaber at her head can reveal the truth. Nat 20 and she fends him off with Ventress' stolen lightsabers. That was almost a very awkward conversation with Luminara.Anakin takes Barriss to the trial to undercut Sheev's monologuing. Barriss admits to everything but gets in a pretty good takedown of the Jedi before she gets taken away. Yoda offers her her place back in the Jedi, but Ahsoka declines. Anakin catches up to Ahsoka and tries to make it about himself, and to her credit Ahsoka says it's not about him. Best character in Star Wars. Anakin says he understands wanting to walk away from the order, and Ahsoka says she knows. Padme's sex yacht is the galaxies worst kept secret.Ahsoka walks into the sunset and Anakin is left alone.https://twitter.com/ClosingCrawlhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/closing-crawl/id1530133296https://www.closingcrawl.com/Merch at: https://bit.ly/spacetimetm

Confidence Hack #59: The Hebrew word Yada means ‘to do' and ‘to know.' No, not Yoda, the little green guy from Star Wars. Yada. In the Hebrew language the word for ‘to know' and ‘to do' are the same word. One of the most significant gaps in society and a growing canyon is the difference between knowing and doing. The confidence boost today comes from embracing yada. When you know something, trust that there is a reason you know what to do, and instead of doubting yourself, trust God's doing power, and all will work out in the end! Hey! If you love this show, share it with family and friends! It's the best way to help get this info into the hands of people who want to grow and become the most CONFIDENT LEADERS they can be! And please throw us a 5-star review! To get these hacks and other AMAZING information straight to your inbox, go to davidnurse.com and sign up for the FREE newsletter!

Conversation about fast food prompts Jay to order fish sandwiches for the entire crew! Bobby recalls who sent him down a spiral of unhealthy eating with monkey bread.