Praise Hands

“I have always believed that the music of the church has the power to shape the message of the church.” Robby Valderrama Church attendance is down. Awareness of racial inequality is up.  Many families are struggling to make ends meet, all while the music of the church is slowly but surely learning to embrace diverse voices. Three years after the start of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear our host Robby Valderrama share brand-new data along with his one-of-a-kind insight on where the American church is, and where it might be headed. On this episode, hear Robby discuss: How economic policies are affecting the local church, and what to do about it Exclusive data and inside analysis on today's worship music industry The future of the Praise Hands Podcast Each episode on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“People sometimes have strong criticisms of contemporary worship without actually knowing it.” - Glenn Packiam Glenn Packiam is a songwriter, a theologian, and an Anglican priest pastoring at New Life Church in Colorado Springs. His recent books Worship And The World To Come and The Resilient Pastor are helpful and hopeful guides for Christian leaders who are navigating leadership in our current global health crisis. In this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Glenn talk through: His experience as a Malaysian-American in the worship music industry Three Congregational Worship paradigms that shape Sunday mornings Key takeaways from his research on congregational worship Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“We are not establishing some new morality that is an over-realized understanding of heaven on earth. Reparations are love of neighbor.” - Duke Kwon Reparations: A Christian Call for Repentance and Repair is a brand new book from Pastor Duke Kwon and cultural educator Gregory Thompson that’s sending shockwaves through the American church. On this timely and hotly debated topic of reparations to the African American community, Kwon and Thompson use theology and history to argue that the church has a unique moral responsibility to repair our nation’s original sin. In this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Duke and Gregory talk through: Frameworks for understanding racism, white supremacy, and reparations The church’s crucial role in developing America’s racial caste system How Christian creatives can use their repentant imaginations to create change Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The perception that Christianity is a ‘White man’s religion’ is the single greatest obstacle to the Gospel in the world.” -Vince Bantu Vince Bantu is an assistant professor of Church History and Black Church Studies at Fuller Theological Seminary and a director of the Meachum School of Haymanot, a seminary that offers education from Afrocentric and Biblical perspectives.  In this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, Vince explores the history of the global church and the struggle for modern people of color as they wrestle with the racialized stigmas of Christianity, discussing: Christianity’s multicultural heritage and how it can be reclaimed today The Pan-African Church’s historical relationship with the Roman Church, Islam, and White America  How past theological and cultural disagreements affect current racial reconciliation conversations Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“There is a mysticism to life with God. If we believe that God is present with us, how can there not be?” Rich Villodas   Some of the most ancient practices of the church, like contemplation and silence, still have much to teach us in our always-on, always-connected world. In his book, The Deeply Formed Life, pastor and author Rich Villodas shares personal insight on how spiritual union with Christ can fuel a life of justice. On this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Rich and Robby discuss: How Christian meditation differs from other mindfulness practices The role that silence can play in our corporate worship experiences The challenges in building authentically multicultural churches Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The beauty of God is not limited to our culture. Are we willing to create space?” - Jaewoo Kim Josh Davis and Jaewoo Kim from Proskuneo Ministries and their families moved to Clarkston, Georgia, one of the most diverse square miles in the entire United States. On their street, they live, work, homeschool their kids together, and co-lead a vibrant multicultural worshipping community. On this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast featuring co-host McKenzie Abbott, Josh and Jaewoo share:• How to cultivate a worshipping community vs simply creating worship experiences • The cultural challenges immigrants face in American churches• What John’s visions in Revelation can teach us about multicultural worship Each episode on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

In honor of our 50th Episode, Robby chatted with past guests on a fun and laid-back Praise Hands Podcast 50th Episode Zoom Party, including a quick appearance from Robby’s wife. Watch the Zoom on YouTube, or hear audio-only on your podcast app of choice. 0:00:33 Patrick Chappell 0:30:30 Lex The Advocate 0:52:00 Barna Group’s Brooke Hempell 0:57:50 DJ Chuang 1:17:08 Thank You’s and Fake Ending 1:19:53 Jackie The Educator 1:25:57 Ricky Ortiz Listen around the hour-mark for details on how to enter to win, as well for an exciting announcement from Robby on a living legend who he’ll be interviewing shortly for a new episode.   Time Codes (along with guest’s original episode title):   0:00:33 Patrick Chappell (EP28 “The Myth Of "Organic" Diversity”) Hear Patrick share about his new role as a campus pastor, and about the ways his church is looking to move past traditional models to reach and empower their neighbors. Also, hear about his unfiltered, unashamed obsession with the rock band Weezer.   0:30:30 Lex The Advocate (EP5 “Sex Trafficking: A Survivor's Story”) Hear Lex share about her new role with Exodus Cry fighting sex trafficking through films, public policy, survivor care, and directly confronting pornographic channels.   0:52:00 Barna Group’s Brooke Hempell (EP26 “Data And Diversity: A Call To Dig Deeper”) 0:57:50 DJ Chuang (EP22 “Cultural Competency, Shame, And Generosity”) Hear Brooke share about her new podcast “Race And Redemption”, and hear both Brooke and DJ share about their experience and data findings surrounding the church’s status through the global health crisis. Learn about DJ’s new podcast and other issues (such as generosity and church health during 2020) from an Asian American Christian leader’s perspective.   1:17:08 Thank You’s and Fake Ending 1:19:53 Jackie The Educator (EP8 “Hurt, Hustle, and Healing in Black America”) Hear about the mind-blowing growth of Jackie’s Black Christian Influencers, along with the story of how Robby and Jackie’s connection led to their friendship and Kingdom collaboration.   1:25:57 Ricky Ortiz (EP27 “Rethinking Urban Church Planting”) Hear Ricky share about his experience pastoring a NYC church plant that had 65% of its members displaced due to Covid-related moves. Hear him share vulnerably about how he realized that his church as a whole wasn’t as committed to their neighborhood as he had hoped, and what he’s doing to encourage a new culture of outreach and mutual accountability.   About Praise Hands Podcast Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The culture of social media has made us bold in the wrong ways.” Wendy Cunningham On January 5th, 2021, third-party voter Wendy Cunningham was a highly successful entrepreneur who was loved and respected by her business partners across the country. Two days later, after peacefully attending the January 6th rally in Washington DC, she was cut out of a lifelong friendship, labeled a racist, and had her family’s lone income source threatened by colleagues. On this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Wendy open up about: Why a third-party voter like her made the trip to DC Her on-the-ground experience on January 6th What it’s like to be cancelled in cancel culture Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“I think we trust politicians’ words more than God’s Word when it comes to immigration.” Moving from a Trump to a Biden presidency, The Immigration Coalition founder Rondell Trevino shares his family’s immigration journey, along with how the church in America can have its priorities right on this urgent and complicated issue. On this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Rondell share: How Rondell’s family navigated through the U.S. immigration process His thoughts on Christian Nationalism and idolatry Why Christians must be pro-life across the political spectrum Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“You don’t have to be perfect to make a difference.” Danielle Coke At the beginning of 2020, Danielle Coke (@ohhappydani) had 700 Instagram followers and an iPad. A few months later, her racial justice-themed artwork went viral, causing her to gain 300,000 Instagram followers in one week, and leading her work to be featured on the Today Show, Buzzfeed, NBC, and countless other media outlets.  On this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Danielle share: The creative process behind her popular artwork Tips for building a brand around your passion How her relationship with Jesus shapes her social justice work   Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The church must shift from a mindset of being reformed to being reformers.” As an innovation strategist, Doug Paul has advised Christian leaders across the US, and his book Ready or Not: Kingdom Innovation for a Brave New World provides a roadmap for church leaders who are eager to shift their ministry during a COVID-19 and post-COVID culture. On this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Doug and Robby chat about: The relationship between diversity and creativity Predictions about the future of the church Systemic change in church, tech, & racial justice Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Donate, volunteer, and join the Praise Hands Facebook Group at http://praisehands.com/getinvolved. Join the Year End Giving Campaign by becoming a monthly or one-time supporter at http://praisehands.com/donate. All donors in December 2020 will be automatically entered for a chance to win a copy of Doug's new book "Ready Or Not". Learn more about Doug at DougPaul.org.

“In the American church, we conflate worship and music… *everything* that we do should bring glory to God as our living worship.” Dr. Emmett Price Dr. Emmett Price III is a leading expert on African American Music, Christian Worship and the Black Christian Experience, and leads the Institute for the Study of the Black Christian Experience at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. In this Praise Hands Podcast interview, Dr. Price switches seamlessly between his academic, pastoral, and musical hats, addressing the following: What Our Educational Models Can Learn From Jesus The Redemptive Song of Black America The Church’s Responsibility To Lead Cross-Culturally Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Donate, volunteer, and join the Praise Hands Facebook Group at http://praisehands.com/getinvolved. Join the Year End Giving Campaign by becoming a monthly or one-time supporter at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“What would it look like for love, not fear, to shape our policies?” Shane Claiborne    As an activist, author, and speaker, Shane Claiborne has shaped a generation’s view of Jesus and social change. His radical activism has led him to Iraq and Afghanistan (for anti-war efforts), jail (for homeless advocacy), Calcutta (for work with Mother Teresa), and to Washington DC, where today’s interview took place a few steps from The White House.    In this episode highlighting the 2020 Presidential Election, Shane shares:  • Why the death penalty is incompatible with Christian teaching  • How the American church has neglected the teachings of Jesus  • How restorative justice and forgiveness can fix the US prison system    Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Donate, volunteer, and join the Praise Hands Facebook Group at http://praisehands.com/getinvolved.    Learn more about Shane at http://shaneclaiborne.com and http://redletterchristians.org and buy his books Jesus for President, The Irresistible Revolution, and Executing Grace at BookShop.org to support an indie bookstore. 

“We have to get back to families supporting each other and not depending on government agencies.” As a retired CPA, certified fraud examiner, and IRS agent who specialized in auditing pastors, Sherry Peel Jackson now helps churches and families achieve financial sustainability while preventing government overreach. Tune in to hear Sherry discuss: Shocking revelations about the U.S. income tax code What churches and families can learn from President Trump’s alleged tax strategy How home-based businesses can turn your passion into profit DISCLAIMER: This is not meant to be tax, legal or accounting advice. This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for tax, legal or accounting advice. You should consult your own tax, legal and accounting advisors before engaging in any transaction. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Donate, volunteer, and join the Praise Hands Facebook Group at http://praisehands.com/getinvolved. Learn more at sherrypeeljackson.com.

“Whether it’s material, spiritual, or emotional, everyone has experienced poverty.” Amidst national conversations about eviction moratoriums, Matt Pritchard’s nonprofit HomeStart has saved 2,500 Boston-area households from eviction, with 95% of these households maintaining their housing long-term. Lean in as Matt shares: What he learned by choosing to live in a shelter for a year How personal growth fuels organizational impact Why he avoids the term “Homeless People”  Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“What’s happened in 2020 can’t unresurrect Jesus.” Dr. Esau McCaulley Dr. Esau McCaulley is an author, priest, and New Testament scholar whose work has been featured in outlets such the New York Times, Christianity Today, and the Washington Post. He completed his doctoral studies under the direction of N.T. Wright, and recently released his book “Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope”.  In this second episode of Season 4, Esau and Robby chat about: • Why voting can be a profoundly Christian act • How Christianity addresses the brokenness of the world • Why we must articulate Christian beliefs in public conversations Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The Christian faith is a narrative. Which narrative is shaping what I do every day?” Dr. Rob Hewell Dr. Rob Hewell is the Professor of Worship and Director of Online Learning Initiatives for Ouachita Baptist University, and the author of the provocative and timely book “Worship Beyond Nationalism”. In this opening episode of Praise Hands Podcast Season 4, Dr. Hewell and Robby Valderrama speak frankly about: The inherently political nature of Christian worship The priority of the Kingdom of God over earthly allegiances The tension of unity in the church and partisan convictions Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“We must work to view the world through our neighbor’s eyes.” Derek Ham Would you be willing to walk a mile in the shoes of a Black man in the South at the height of the Civil Rights Movement? Or respond to a life-threatening dispatch call in the place of a modern-day police officer? Through virtual reality simulations, storyteller Derek Ham helps communities do just that, creating a bridge of empathy between people of color and law enforcement officers. Hear Derek share about: • His unlikely journey as an African American male in tech • How virtual reality can disrupt implicit bias and prejudice • How the non-violent usage of gaming echoes the non-violent protests of MLK Jr  Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehandspodcast.com/donate. 

“It’s in the broken pieces that we find the church being reshaped to fit the mission of God in new places, new people and new contexts.” - Brian Sanders The Underground Network is a diverse movement of microchurches living out the mission of God at the edges of society. In this episode, hear founder Brian Sanders share how their model of ministry activates the creativity of the church, and hear medical clinic director Kathryn Eng share how their Underground Clinic is doing exactly that in Tampa, Florida. Listen to Episode 38 to hear Brian and Kathryn share: Why their church hub is a co-working space, not a sanctuary How to use healthcare to show and share the Gospel Why the hierarchy must serve the decentralized in the 21st Century Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“Poverty as an economic condition only misses both the problem and the cure.” - Jason Janz Non-profit thought leader Jason Janz is the CEO of CrossPurpose, a Denver-based nonprofit committed to abolishing economic, relational, and spiritual poverty in its neighborhood. In addition to talking through his booklet “Black Swan Leadership: Ten Recommendations For Your Non-Profit During A Pandemic”, he and Robby chat about: • Best practices for collaboration between local churches and nonprofits • Why the current social disruption may be an “innovator’s Disneyland” • Mobilizing human and financial capital to fight poverty Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“We’re still learning how to live a message of the Gospel that doesn’t favor any one color over another.” - Dr. Amos Yong Dr. Amos Yong is a theologian and professor currently serving as the Dean of the School of Theology and the School of Intercultural Studies at Fuller Seminary. He is also the author of numerous books on Pentecostal theology, race, and ethics, including “Who Is the Holy Spirit? A Walk with the Apostles.” In this interview on the Praise Hands Podcast, Dr. Yong examines crucial contemporary issues through Biblical exegesis and his own background as an Asian American, addressing the following: A Biblical examination of Christ and the Holy Spirit The conflicted racial history of Pentecostalism How Christianity can overcome limitations of Western constructs Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“We’ve moved compassion further and further down the list of priorities and moved safety, protection, and money up. I’m hoping we can use this crisis to re-evaluate this.” Ben Walker From shortages of necessary equipment to inadequate staffing levels, COVID-19 is exposing the cracks in a healthcare system that many of us take for granted. In Part 2 of our conversation on the COVID-19 crisis and healthcare, Robby continues his conversation with healthcare insider Ben Walker as they discuss: • How to equitably address rising healthcare costs • Centralization and decentralization in church and state • Christianity’s history of caring for the sick Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“In a time of crisis, we start weighing the good of society versus the good of the person.” Ben Walker In light of Covid-19, an important question is emerging: “what roles should individuals, businesses, and governments play in finding solutions for a global health crisis, and who should decide?” To help answer this question, Robby invited his old friends and healthcare insiders Ben Walker and Ian Patterson on the show. In this timely episode, hear Ben and Ian discuss: Arguments for and against tighter government regulation How the FDA blocked initial testing for Covid-19 Balancing consumer choice and human equality Learn more about Ian Patterson at  https://ipatterson.com and https://twitter.com/ianesque. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“You can’t take a wait and see attitude with your church finances. The time to pivot is now.” Mark DeYmaz Mark DeYmaz and Luke Dooley are the creators of the Church Economics Accelerator, which helps ministry leaders leverage church assets to bless their communities and generate sustainable income. They’ve been helping churches prepare for a scenario like COVID-19 for years, and you’ll want to share this episode with every church leader you know. In this timely episode, hear Mark and Luke discuss how churches can: • Reduce their tithe dependency through creative thinking • Minimize job loss in their communities in light of COVID-19 • Position themselves to lead well in shifting economic landscapes Check out Mark DeYmaz’s latest book The Coming Revolution in Church Economics and find out more about him by visiting www.markdeymaz.com. Learn more about Luke Dooley’s work and the Church Economics Accelerator at www.churcheconomics.org. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists at the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“Are you going to chase the dollar, or are you going to help preserve a community?” - Derek Minor Nashville-based Derek Minor is a rapper, producer, and entrepreneur whose initiative “Ownership is the New Black” works to develop the next generation of Black owners. In light of the recent Nashville tornado, Derek and Robby talk about how racially-discriminatory government policies have made the Black community particularly vulnerable to displacement through natural disasters and gentrification. In this episode of the Praise Hands Podcast, hear Derek talk about: • How to shift from “consumer power to ownership power” • How Christian music and social justice can co-exist • The tragic ending of the “Black Wall Street” in Tulsa, Oklahoma Listen to Derek’s music at https://www.derekminor.com and learn more about Ownership is the New Black at https://www.weownnow.com.  Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“It shocks me that every Christian on the planet doesn’t see themselves as a cultural translator.” Brock Shinen As an in-demand lawyer and consultant in the worship music industry, Brock Shinen understands the complex and sometimes messy relationship between churches, creatives, and business. In this third episode of the Praise Hands Podcast series “Can I Trust The Church?”, Brock shares from his new book “The Christian Entrepreneur”, touching on the following topics: The dangers of separating faith and business What it means to be a “cultural translator” “Win-win” relationships between churches and creatives Learn more about Brock’s work at https://www.brockshinen.com and https://www.worshipmusicindustry.com. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The church has tried to protect position instead of holding up repentance as the greatest prize.” Andrea Burke “There is such a weight on shepherding people - each of your sheep are not the same.   Although there are godly principles, if you’re going into ministry, that means you’re ministering to a flock of individual sheep.” Sharona Sledge Amidst imperfect people and imperfect churches, the devastating consequences of moral failure and sexual sin affect us all. In this second episode of the Praise Hands Podcast series “Can I Trust The Church?”, worship leaders Andrea Burke and Sharona Sledge share how they navigated guilt, deceit, and betrayal in their evolving relationships with God and the church. Listen now to hear Andrea and Sharona talk about: ● Dismantling “church shame” through a culture of confession ● When and how to confront signs of abuse or wrongdoing ● How to find freedom from sexual sin and help others do the same Learn more about Andrea at www.andreagburke.com. Learn more about Sharona at www.sharonasledge.com. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

"People trust pastors to handle their money and assume that everything is okay. It’s not.” Gina Zurlo By the year 2025, as much as $100 Billion per year in Christian-donated dollars will be lost due to embezzlement, estimates Gordon-Conwell’s Center for the Study of Global Christianity. The Center’s co-director is Gina Zurlo, who, along with co-authoring The World Christian Encyclopedia, was named among BBC’s 100 most influential and inspiring women of 2019. In this paradigm-shifting episode, hear Gina share about: • The Pros And Cons of Entrepreneurial Christianity • Practical Ideas For Relationship Across Faith Backgrounds • The Biggest Trends Shaping The Future Of Christianity Follow Gina’s work at http://twitter.com/csgc and http://globalchristianity.org. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“People want diversity to happen organically, but sometimes you have to be intentional on the way to organic.” Patrick Chappell Growing up Black in the South, Patrick Chappell attended both predominantly Black and White churches and often felt like an outsider in each. But his pain led him to his purpose: creating grace-filled spaces for diverse relationships and intentional conversations. Learn from Patrick’s story and expertise on the following topics: How he survived a childhood of physical abuse and deep-seated racism Why leaders must proactively pursue those on the fringes How intentional, encouraging words can overcome fear and division Follow Patrick at https://www.instagram.com/patrickchappell and subscribe to the Patrick Podcast. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“If you want to change a society then you have to tell an alternative story.” NYC-native Ricky Ortiz had a heart to reach his city, but knew that traditional church planting financial models would prove difficult in the high-cost Big Apple. A few years later, Ricky’s thriving Meta Church serves as inspiration for church planters across the US. In this episode, hear Ricky share the strategic steps he’s taken to develop socioeconomic diversity and financial sustainability in an urban context. Hear Ricky’s wisdom on topics like: Inspiring A Shared Vision In Your Local Church Why He’s Okay With Members Missing Sunday Morning Tips For Reducing Your Church’s Tithe Dependency Follow Ricky at Instagram.com/rico6886/ and Meta Church at Instagram.com/metanyc. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“Averages only tell the average story. They don’t tell a minority’s story.” Brooke Hempell As the Senior Vice President of Research at Barna Group, Brooke Hempell and her team have interviewed thousands of leaders across America about issues of faith and culture. Yet some of her most meaningful insights have come from pursuing racial reconciliation and church planting in her hometown of Atlanta. In this episode, hear Brooke share trusted insight including: • Common Misperceptions About Economic And Racial Realities • How Millennial and Gen-Z Voices Are Challenging The Status Quo • Surprising Data About The Power Of Diverse Worship Music Follow Brooke’s work at Barna.com.  Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“Believing that the way that I know God is the way that everybody should know God is called religiously-powered ethnocentrism.” Angie Kay Hong Angie Kay Hong is a convener, a sought-after voice on issues of church and culture, and a worship leader with experience on staff everywhere from church plants to megachurch Willow Creek Community Church. Fresh off the heels of a summit of multicultural worship academics and practitioners, Angie and Robby speculate about the future of church music. Listen now to hear Angie speak to:• Evolving Strategies for Multicultural Worship • The Christian Populism Of Martin Luther • How Leaders Can Share Power In Healthy Ways Learn more about Angie at http://angiekayhong.com and follow her at http://instagram.com/angiekayhong. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Join the Year End Giving Campaign at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The church was here before Kanye West, and the church will be here after Kanye West.” KJ Scriven As well as being the Creative Arts Pastor at Charlotte-area’s Transformation Church, KJ Scriven collaborates as a songwriter and artist with diverse voices outside the local church. Hear KJ’s thoughts on Kanye West, Kirk Franklin at the Dove Awards, and other issues shaping Christian creativity. Listen now to hear KJ and Robby chat through: Scriptural Perspective On The Christian Kanye West How Black Musicians Have Shaped The Sound Of American Music Creating Music With Those Who Don’t Share Your Faith Learn more about KJ at http://kjscriven.com and http://transformationchurch.tc/.  Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“Proximity breeds relationship, relationship breeds understanding, and understanding breeds compassion.” KJ Scriven Multiethnic worship pastor and songwriter KJ Scriven has a passion to see the church become the diverse family Jesus envisioned.  Dive right in to hear KJ and Robby discuss: How Slavery Shaped The African-American Worship Experience Robby’s Story Of Confronting A Distracting Tambourine Player In Church How The Early Church Gave Voice To Underrepresented Minorities Tune in next week to hear KJ and Robby talk through all things Kanye West, and learn more about KJ at http://kjscriven.com and http://transformationchurch.tc/. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

“The American church is beginning to listen to the Spirit of God working through the global church.” DJ Chuang As the author of the books “MultiAsian.Church” and “Erasing Shame”, DJ Chuang is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the Asian-American church, mental health, and radical generosity. Hear DJ and Robby discuss the following: • The Asian-American-Led Multiethnic Church Movement • Facilitating Conversations About Shame And Mental Health • Overcoming Church Consumerism Through Generous Giving Learn more about DJ at http://djchuang.com. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.

As co-directors of Atlanta’s OneRace Movement, Josh Clemons and Hazen Stevens have seen firsthand how prayer and repentance can redeem even their city’s deepest wounds. Hear them share on the following: Overturning Atlanta’s History Of Church Segregation Why The Gospel Demands Racial Justice The Power Of Multigenerational, Multicultural Friendships Learn more at http://oneracemovement.com. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate.  

"Jesus didn’t have a healing ministry. He had a reconciliation ministry.... and one of the ways that manifests is physical healing." Joshua Silverberg What if miracles are waiting for us on the other side of our comfort zones? Joshua Silverberg never thought he’d write worship songs with artists like Jesus Culture, Kari Jobe, and Matt Redman. He also never imagined God would use someone like him to pray and see hundreds of people experience miraculous physical healings. Discover new levels of faith and adventure as Joshua dives into the following subjects: An insider’s view of the worship music industry Why physical healing is a form of reconciliation Revealing the heart of Jesus through music and prayer Follow Joshua on Instagram at http://instagram.com/joshuasilverberg Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate. Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor TheChurchAhead.com: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including City Impact Coaching, Culture Coaching, and more.⠀

People should look at Christian art and ask, “What must I do to be saved?” Dwan Hill As a musician, arranger, and Grammy-Award Winning songwriter, Dwan Hill has long been a secret weapon for legendary artists including Lauren Daigle, CeCe Winans, Josh Groban, and others. But recently, local church relationships and a deeper exploration of the Gospel have launched Dwan’s artistry to new heights, resulting in the fresh and colorful songs of Nashville Life Music. Hear Dwan and Robby chat through: The diverse worship scene that’s emerging in Nashville How Lauren Daigle transcended the “Christian” and “Gospel” divide What Jesus’ resurrection means for creatives today Learn more about Dwan’s work at http://dwanhill.com and http://nashvillelifemusic.com. Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, and economics. Support the show at http://praisehands.com/donate. Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor TheChurchAhead.com: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including City Impact Coaching, Culture Coaching, and more.⠀

“The multi-ethnic church movement is nothing new... this is what was going on in the first century.” Mark DeYmaz As the founder of Mosaic Church of Central Arkansas and Mosaix Global Network, Mark Deymaz has pioneered a multiethnic, socially responsible, and financially sustainable church model that’s built to last. Hear Mark speak on the following topics: • How healthy multiethnic congregations communicate God’s love for all • Church theology in an age of technological disruption • Why tithes and offerings are no longer enough and what leaders can do about it Find Mark’s new book “The Coming Revolution In Church Economics” wherever books are sold, and register for the Mosaix National Multiethnic Church Conference at http://mosaix.info. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. Learn more at http://praisehands.com. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS // Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor The Church Ahead: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including City Impact Coaching, Culture Coaching, and more. Learn more at http://thechurchahead.com.

"The caliber of your future will be determined by the choices you make today.” Anthony O’Neal Best-selling author, speaker, and Ramsey Personality Anthony O'Neal grew up in a highly spiritual church and family environment. Yet a lack of financial education and bad mistakes as a college student left him homeless and hitting rock bottom at 19 years of age. As a result, he's now passionate about financial literacy, and is celebrating the release of his latest book “Debt-Free Degree: The Step by Step Guide to Getting Your Kid Through College Without Student Loans.” During this episode, Anthony shares how he went from homeless to homeowner, and how ditching debt set him up for a lifestyle of generosity. Hear Anthony touch on the following topics: • The importance of knowing your "why" when getting out of debt • Why the church should prioritize financial education • How cross-cultural relationships promote creativity Learn more at http://daveramsey.com and http://anthonyoneal.com. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. Get Involved at http://praisehands.com/getinvolved. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS // Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor The Church Ahead: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including City Impact Coaching, Culture Coaching, and more. Learn more at http://thechurchahead.com.

“We should be in the places where people are suffering and we should be innovatively creating communities of solidarity amidst that suffering.” Michael Rhodes In a city known for segregated churches, racist politics, and intergenerational poverty, Sarah Lockridge-Steckel and Michael Rhodes are changing the conversation and creating a new Memphis. Sarah is a Harvard and Yale alum who serves as the CEO of The Collective which provides young adults in Memphis with pathways to jobs. Michael is the Director of Community Development at Union University and the co-author of the economic justice manual “Practicing the King’s Economy”.  In this episode, learn from Sarah and Michael’s expertise on: • Past and present examples of systemic racism • Surprising Old Testament models of economic justice • The roles of government, church, and business in promoting human flourishing ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. Learn more at http://praisehands.com. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS // Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor The Church Ahead: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including City Impact Coaching, Culture Coaching, and Worship Planning. Learn more at http://thechurchahead.com. RELATED // Memphis, Tennessee, Systemic Racism, Old Testament, Justice, Economic Justice, Government, Economics, Church, City Planning, Urban Development, Economic Development, Racism, Antiracist, Union University, Yale, Harvard, Crosstown Concourse, Brian Fikkert, Robby Holt, Chattanooga, Corner To Corner, Will Acuff, Unemployment, Community Solutions, Community Activism, Job Creation, Redlining, Racial Justice, Baker Books

"Every community can’t be a diverse community, but every Christian community ought to be a reconciling community.” David Bailey One person, song, and conversation at a time, David Bailey and friends are changing the narrative of Richmond, Virginia from the "capital of the Confederacy" to the "capital of reconciliation". Hear David share on the following: Why diversity alone is not enough How he walked alongside Gabe Lyons and Q on issues of race and culture Practical paths towards spiritual growth, culture creation, and community reconciliation Learn more about David at http://arrabon.com and http://www.urbandoxology.com. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. Learn more at http://praisehands.com. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS // Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor The Church Ahead: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including City Impact Coaching, Culture Coaching, and Worship Planning. Learn more at http://thechurchahead.org. RELATED // Richmond, Virginia, Arrabon, Urban Doxology, Reconciliation, Christian Music, Gospel Music, Q Conference, Gabe Lyons, Hymns, Humility, Narrative, Spiritual Formation, Discipleship, Culture Making, Billy Graham, Lecrae, Social Anthropology, Cultural Anthropology, Anthropology, Worship, Worship Music, Communion, Meet With Me, Conversations, Hospitality, Praise Hands, Racial Justice, Racial Reconciliation, Anabaptist, Abraham Kupyer, Seven Mountain Mandate, Cultural Mandate, Latifah Alattas, Page Cxvi

“An orphan doesn’t just feel like an orphan at 10 o’clock on Sunday.” Robbie Reider With around 20 congregations throughout Ohio and Kentucky, Crossroads Church is a Jesus-following, people-loving, and city-changing machine. In this episode, hear Chuck Mingo and Robbie Reider share unbelievable moments of racial reconciliation and community transformation, as well as vulnerable stories of challenges they face every day. Hear Chuck and Robbie discuss the following: Local vs. centralized aspects of multisite ministry What their church has learned from Corporate America How their "Undivided" racial reconciliation curriculum and "City Link Center" are impacting the city of Cincinnati Learn more about Crossroads Church at the following links:  http://www.facebook.com/crdschurch Live worship every day at 8:30am EST https://www.citylinkcenter.org/2019-documentary City Link Center Documentary on Angela’s Nine Month Journey http://crdsmusic.com Learn more about Crossroads Music ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. Learn more at http://praisehands.com. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS // Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor The Church Ahead: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including City Impact Coaching. Learn more at http://thechurchahead.org.  

"We believe God exists in many dimensions: the physical, the spiritual, the digital, and we’ve experienced Him in the virtual." DJ Soto *This episode is also available via video on YouTube. Become a monthly donor and receive exclusive access to bonus content from this episode and others at http://praisehands.com/donate.* Across the world, Virtual Reality (VR) enhances the way we work, learn, and play. And according to DJ Soto of VR Church, it may also be changing the way we encounter God. Hear DJ address the following heavy-hitting topics: How VR helps eliminate physical and financial constraints to human connection The theology of digital church, including virtual water baptisms How VR's radically inclusive, decentralized platform is enabling marginalized groups to experience Christ Learn more about DJ Soto and VR Church at http://vrchurch.org. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS // Special thanks to this episode’s sponsor The Church Ahead: offering resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including coaching, contracting, and courses. Learn more at TheChurchAhead.com. Big thanks also to Digital Worlds VR Arcade in Franklin, Tennessee for hosting our filming.

“If you borrow, you become a slave to the lender. And this applies whether you’re a family or a government.” Andres Gutierrez The Mexican-American border has been called an economic, political, and humanitarian disaster. People who support border enforcement are labeled inhumane, and those who oppose it are deemed unamerican. In the midst of this seemingly impossible situation, how can we address immigration in a way that supports both human dignity and political reality? As a financial coach in the Hispanic community, Andres Gutierrez has an inside look at the stories of people on both sides of the border. In this episode, Andres sheds light on the following topics: • How Mexican debt and American economic policy created the border situation • Balancing the rule of the law with compassion and forgiveness • Why education and small business may be the best solution Learn more about Andres at AndresGutierrez.com. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join host Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. Support Praise Hands at Praisehands.com/donate. RELATED // diversity, church, race, multiculturalism, hispanic community, ministry, economic justice, dave ramsey, financial peace, paz financiera, immigration, us mexico border, nafta, dreamers, daca, mexican american, economic policy, debt free, debt, borden detention, immigration policy, china tariffs, trade war, refugee, small business

“Our brotherhood trumps my blackness. Our brotherhood trumps his whiteness.” Bernard Emerson “There has got to be a sustained, communal response from the church that's more than a tweet or a Facebook post.” Kyle Brooks Amidst daily headlines of racism and polarization, Pastors Kyle Brooks and Bernard Emerson of Tapestry Church in Oakland, California are taking radical steps to reflect the kingdom of God in their city. During this episode, Kyle and Bernard share how their desire to reimagine church God’s way led to the merging of a Black church and a White church—fusing different traditions, age demographics, and worship styles—into one congregation now known as Tapestry Church. Hear Kyle and Bernard discuss the following: • Why their friendship trumps their ministry goals • The challenges and rewards of cultivating a multicultural congregation • Creative solutions for equipping the local church’s social impact Learn more about Tapestry Church at TapestryOakland.org or find them on Instagram @tapestryoakland ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // Each week on the Praise Hands Podcast, join host Robby Valderrama and learn from creative, cross-cultural solutionists who are shaping the future of church, race, music, economics, and technology. Learn more about Praise Hands at PraiseHands.com. RELATED // oakland california, the way, oakland communion, the tapestry, kyle brooks, bernard emerson, black church, white church,  segregation, unity, diversity, church, race, multiculturalism, hispanic community, ministry, prison ministry, incarceration, justice, multicultural worship, radical, tradition, bay area

"We have a strong historic tradition. But there are also beautiful things happening now.” Caleb Deas Black Christian Influencers Tiffany Hines, Caleb Deas, and Kelli Marie are creating spaces for expression and encounter outside Sunday morning, and are impacting their respective communities in profound ways. During this episode, learn how these three are shaping the future of Christianity while honoring the rich religious and cultural heritage of Black America. Hear real-talk about the following: • Why the church must become more than a building • How to model Jesus' outward-focused ministry • Not being 'Black' enough for Black church Follow each of today’s guests on Instagram at @tiffanyhinesmusic, @calebjdeas, and @ms_kelli_marie. Enjoying the show? Leave Praise Hands a 5-star review and share this episode with your friends. Get Involved at PraiseHands.com. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // The Praise Hands Podcast examines the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Robby Valderrama is the co-founder of The Church Ahead, which offers resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including culture coaching, church plant coaching, and more. To book a free 30 minute discovery call with Robby, visit thechurchahead.com. RELATED // Atlanta, Black Owned, Leadership, Unity, Christianity, Reconciliation, Urban Ministry, Christianity Today, Missions, Evangelism, Race, Cultural Studies, Bethel Church, Bethel Music, Gospel Music, Atlanta, Chicago, Black America, Church, Dallas, Todd Dulaney, Jon McReynolds, Travis Greene, Chh, Alan Hirsch, Black Church, Gospel Music, Gospel

"Christ didn’t come to create a Christian-brand. He came to manifest God on earth.” Lawrence Souffrant On any given day, you might find JR Rivera, Lawrence Souffrant, and Sharona Drake pastoring their communities, teaching young adults, or inspiring thousands of followers through a thought-provoking Instagram post. On April 5, 2019, these three powerful Black Christian Influencers were all in the same room, and we were honored to host a panel with them live at the Create Conference in Atlanta. During this episode, discover how to find your unique purpose, how to develop your personal brand, and how you can leverage your social media influence to show Christ’s love to the world. Hear this power trio address the following: • Promoting yourself online without oversharing • Being a healthy, intentional, and vulnerable leader • Reconciling your digital and spiritual identities Learn more about each of today’s guests at http://instagram.com/_jrrivera, http://lawrencesouffrant.com, and http://sharonadrake.com. Enjoying the show? Leave Praise Hands a 5-star review and share this episode with your friends. Get Involved at PraiseHands.com. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST // The Praise Hands Podcast examines the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Robby Valderrama is the co-founder of The Church Ahead, which offers resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including culture coaching, church plant coaching, and more. To book a free 30 minute discovery call with Robby, visit thechurchahead.com. RELATED // Atlanta, Social Media, Black Lives Matter, Black Owned Business, Leadership, Unity, Christianity, Reconciliation, Urban Ministry, Christianity Today, Missions, Evangelism, Race, Cultural Studies, Church, TD Jakes, BET, Bryan Meadows, Nipsey Hussle, Chh, Digital Marketing, Click Funnels, Social Media, Instagram, Mastermind

"We’ve had a huge pulling away within the Black church. They’re not pulling away from the faith, but from the church. And I believe that the church is needed in this next phase.” Chicago-native Jackie The Educator has a two-part vision: first, to see Christian influencers affirmed in their respective cultural identities. And second, to see these various cultures united for the multicultural cause of Christ. During this episode, Jackie shares about the importance of Christlike reconciliation, provides education around factors preventing racial equality today, and opens up about the hidden wounds of the African-American community. Hear Jackie's practical insight on the following: • Is it "Black" or "African-American"? • Confronting racism inside the Black community • How she's leveraging social media as a tool for unity Learn more about Jackie at JackieTheEducator.com and BlackChristianInfluencers.com. Enjoying the show? Leave Praise Hands a 5-star review and share this episode with your friends. Get Involved at PraiseHands.com. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST
 // The Praise Hands Podcast examines the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Robby Valderrama is the co-founder of The Church Ahead, which offers resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including culture coaching, church plant coaching, and more. To book a free 30 minute discovery call with Robby, visit thechurchahead.com. RELATED // Black Christian Influencers, Chicago, Hebrew Israelites, Social Media, Black Lives Matter, Black Owned Business, Leadership, Unity, Christianity, Reconciliation, Urban Ministry, Christianity Today, Missions, Evangelism, Racism, Cultural Studies, Church, Englewood, Segregation

"The majority of the top worship songs have been written by middle-class, Caucasian, males… there’s something missing in Christian music.” As a Korean-American in the Christian music industry, marketer Wisdom Moon has worked with countless artists including Lauren Daigle, Israel Houghton, and Darlene Zschech. During this episode, Wisdom shares about being bullied in school as an immigrant, working as a racial minority in the Christian music industry, and why he’s more encouraged than ever at where the music of the church is headed. Hear Wisdom's honest and hopeful take on the following: • How listeners can voice their demand for diverse Christian music • The inner workings of the Christian Music industry • Why Kingdom-collaboration is better than self-promotion Learn more about Wisdom at http://www.marketingwithwisdom.com and http://www.indieartistuniversity.com.  *FULL SHOW NOTES AVAILABLE ON PRAISEHANDS.COM* Enjoying the show? Leave Praise Hands a 5-star review and share this episode with your friends. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCASTThe Praise Hands Podcast examines the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Robby Valderrama is the co-founder of The Church Ahead, which offers resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders, including culture coaching, church plant coaching, and more. To book a free 30 minute discovery call with Robby, visit TheChurchAhead.com. RELATED:Christian Music Industry, Christianity, Music, Look Up Child, Centricity Music, Integrity Music, Nashville, South Korea, Church, Kansas City, Marketing, Music Marketing, Church Marketing, Church Consulting, Church Leadership, Race, Diversity, Multiculturalism, Worship Music, Gospel Music

"Everywhere you look in Christianity, relationships is the hallmark. And that makes it distinct from any other religion on the planet." Dr. Michael Schluter is the epitome of a creative, cross-cultural solutionist. He’s been honored by the Queen of England for his Biblically-derived social policy, and he's facilitated peacebuilding initiatives everywhere from Korea to Rwanda to South Africa during Apartheid. This episode is the last in a three-part series on Economic Healing, and will feature Dr. Schluter's eye-opening perspective on the following: • How prioritizing relational health over economic growth can help transcend political divides • Why Christians in particular should care about economics • How Biblical teaching on relationships speaks to capitalist concepts like advertising, limited liability, and interest. Learn more about Dr. Schluter at http://jubilee-centre.org and http://relationalthinking.net. *FULL SHOW NOTES AVAILABLE ON PRAISEHANDS.COM* Enjoying the show? Leave Praise Hands a 5-star review and share this episode with your friends. ABOUT PRAISE HANDS PODCAST The Praise Hands Podcast examines the American intersection of church, race, music, and economics. Robby Valderrama is the co-founder of The Church Ahead, which offers resources and advice for forward-thinking Christian leaders. To book a free 30 minute discovery call on “Economic Healing”, visit TheChurchAhead.com. RELATED: England, Margaret Thatcher, Capitalism, Economics, Social Justice, Socialism, Public Policy, Election 2020, American Politics, British Politics, European Union, Kenya, Apartheid, Rwanda, Relationism, Relational Thinking, Conscious Capitalism, Social Studies, Cambridge, Economic Justice