Podcasts about Jerry Tarkanian

This is the first episode of a weekly episode of This Week in Sports History. In this episode among other great basketball championship games that took place week (March 30- April 5) we are going to highlight the 1991 Final Four that took place in Indianapolis. The Final four that year was highlighted by the national Semifinal between defending champion UNLV Runnin' Rebels coached by Jerry Tarkanian and the Duke Blue Devils which was a rematch of the National Championship game the year before. Along with several college basketball title games that took place that week, we will highlight a pair of heavyweight boxing matches including one that took place over a century ago. To contact the show, please e-mail us at Historically.Speaking.Sports@gmail.com.

Bob Huggins, a member of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, the 3rd-winningest coach ever in Men's D1 College Basketball and who led two different programs (Cincinnati and West Virginia) to Final Fours, talks with Says Who Sports to share his perspectives on a variety of topics, including his thoughts on a possible return to coaching, his continued philanthropic efforts on behalf of his fellow West Virginians (especially youngsters), the powerful influence of his father and legendary coach, Charlie, including the valuable experience he gained working the renowned Eastern Ohio basketball camps started decades ago by his dad and Pennsylvania coaching legend Ed McCluskey, the factors that separate a great coach from a good coach, the impact on him of close friend and mentor Charlie Spoonhour, his longtime friendships with Jerry West, Jerry Tarkanian and John Calipari, what it was like coaching great players such as Kenyon Martin, Nick Van Exel, and Da'Sean Butler, learning from mistakes including those in the spring of '23 that led to him leaving his job as head coach at West Virginia and how he has become a better person thru that learning, his thoughts about the state of college basketball including the NCAA and (some) university presidents, his days as an assistant coach for Eldon Miller at Ohio State and conversations with Woody Hayes, his plans for Christmas, a prevailing gratitude for family and his life journey including the many gifts the game of basketball and those around it have given him, and more! 

In what was a first for this podcast, Georgia Tech head coach Bruce Heppler escaped from an elevator just in time to record. Safely back in his office, Heppler talks about the significant of the Yellow Jackets' win at the Olympia Fields/Fighting Illini Invitational last weekend, Ben Reuter's incredible journey so far in college golf, the ever-changing landscape of college golf and athletics in general and what it was like coaching 6-foot-9 Christo Lamprecht. He then shares some old stories about his start in coaching – and time before that serving as 'cheerleader supervisor' and equipment manager for the UNLV basketball team under legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian. The story about Heppler, Stacey Augmon and Co. driving around Louisville one night is a must-listen! Burko and Brentley then say goodbye to Hepp and dive right into a bevy of results, from Oklahoma winning Valero to Texas getting its first win under coach Laura Ianello at the Mason Rudolph. Oh, and if you have any tips on growing grass in Central Florida, please send to Brentley.

Part 3 with longtime college basketball assistant Jack Fertig. Here Jack discusses his long association with the one and only Jerry Tarkanian. Also - which is worse for college athletics: NIL or the Transfer Portal.  Please Like, Comment and Follow 'The Christopher Gabriel Program' on all platforms:    The Christopher Gabriel Program is available on the KMJNOW app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever else you listen to podcasts.  ---  The Christopher Gabriel Program   | Website | Facebook | X | Instagram |   ---  Everything KMJ   KMJNOW App | Podcasts | Facebook | X | Instagram   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jack Fertig is one of the nation's elite basketball minds. He was a top assistant for many years at places like Tennessee, USC, Oregon, Washington State and, notably, at Fresno State where he worked alongside Jerry Tarkanian. In the first of three parts, Jack discusses the move to the Pac-12 by Fresno State (beginning in 2026, announced on Thursday, Sept. 12th), the hiring of Vance Walberg and how this all may (or may not) shake out.  Please Like, Comment and Follow 'The Christopher Gabriel Program' on all platforms:    The Christopher Gabriel Program is available on the KMJNOW app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever else you listen to podcasts.  ---  The Christopher Gabriel Program   | Website | Facebook | X | Instagram |   ---  Everything KMJ   KMJNOW App | Podcasts | Facebook | X | Instagram   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Part 3 with longtime college basketball assistant Jack Fertig. Here Jack discusses his long association with the one and only Jerry Tarkanian. Also - which is worse for college athletics: NIL or the Transfer Portal.  Please Like, Comment and Follow 'The Christopher Gabriel Program' on all platforms:    The Christopher Gabriel Program is available on the KMJNOW app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever else you listen to podcasts.  ---  The Christopher Gabriel Program   | Website | Facebook | X | Instagram |   ---  Everything KMJ   KMJNOW App | Podcasts | Facebook | X | Instagram   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jack Fertig is one of the nation's elite basketball minds. He was a top assistant for many years at places like Tennessee, USC, Oregon, Washington State and, notably, at Fresno State where he worked alongside Jerry Tarkanian. In the first of three parts, Jack discusses the move to the Pac-12 by Fresno State (beginning in 2026, announced on Thursday, Sept. 12th), the hiring of Vance Walberg and how this all may (or may not) shake out.  Please Like, Comment and Follow 'The Christopher Gabriel Program' on all platforms:    The Christopher Gabriel Program is available on the KMJNOW app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever else you listen to podcasts.  ---  The Christopher Gabriel Program   | Website | Facebook | X | Instagram |   ---  Everything KMJ   KMJNOW App | Podcasts | Facebook | X | Instagram   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Braves hurtful to watch, Soler's pinball play in right, bad balls & strikes, Snitker ejected, Bristol Motor Speedway to host Braves & Reds, White Sox finally win, Falcons WR injury, Browns to move to the burbs in a domed stadium? Caleb Williams carries your grandma's purse, Saints owner is a Saint, Spencer Rattler riles up LSU fans, Cris "Crybaby" Carter talking tough, Longhorns RB major injury, Harbaugh slapped on wrist, Olympics cocaine, women proposing to men? Lebron makes an arse of himself, Irish real woman boxer wins, IOC is Orwellian, green wackos attack Messi, yachts, swimming the English Channel & no that's not an illegal immigrant story, Dream Team, Jerry Tarkanian, Frank Howard, Jose Cruz, Ken Dryden, rock climbing, Federer, Alan Ameche, Gene Mauch, Bobby Bowden, Iron Joe McGinnity, Les Brown, Joe DiMaggio, Casey Stengel, Pete Rose, lesbian Dodgers fans kissing, John Smoltz, Mark DeRosa, This Day in Sports History, plus quotes from Jimmy Breslin, Harry Caray, and Jay Leno! 

Chris Herren's story is one of profound struggle and eventual redemption. Addiction impacts millions of families in heartbreaking ways. I know this personally and through sitting with multiple clients who have been going through it with loved ones. This makes today's conversation about addiction and recovery on the Cracking Open podcast especially powerful. As a young basketball prodigy from Fall River, MA, Chris soared to fame with over 2000 points in high school, even gracing the cover of Sports Illustrated before graduating. However, his journey with addiction had already started to derail his life and his future as a professional athlete. Due to repeated failed drug tests, Chris was expelled from Boston College.Legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian reached out to Chris and gave him a second chance to play college basketball at Fresno State. He flourished there, leading him into the NBA, playing with the Denver Nuggets and Boston Celtics. In secret though, Chris was still battling with alcohol and drug addiction, and basketball simply couldn't compete with the lure of alcohol, cocaine, and heroin. Despite his success on the court, his personal life spiraled out of control, culminating in an overdose and near-death experience in 2008. Through what he calls his "sherpas" – guiding lights on his journey – Chris fully embraced recovery, and has been sober since August 1, 2008. He continues to share his story through various platforms, including his bestselling memoir Basketball Junkie and the Emmy-nominated ESPN Films documentary Unguarded.Chris has dedicated his life to sobriety and creating a positive impact in the world. Through his company Herren Talks, he has reached over a million students and community members, sparking crucial conversations about substance use disorder and wellness. Chris's nonprofit Herren Project, empowers schools and communities to make healthy choices and supports families through recovery. Herren Wellness, established in 2018, offers residential health and wellness programs to support substance-free living.Chris's journey and this conversation around addiction recovery will resonate deeply with many of you. Even if you have not been personally touched by addiction, understanding this topic and its impact is crucial, making this conversation particularly significant.Love,MollyLearn more about Chris Herren and his work hereFollow Chris on InstagramMolly's next 3-month Cracking Open group coaching program starts in July 2024! Learn more here.Interested in a VIP Coaching Day with Molly?Email Molly for more details!Follow Molly on Instagram and Facebook

The ghost of Jerry Tarkanian doesn't care about baseball.Featuring:Beyond the Veil [Lauren Frost]

TalkSports 11-30 HR 3: Was Jerry Tarkanian Whacked By The Mob? by Fanrun Radio

This is one of the most powerful conversations on the subject of addiction and redemption I've been honored to host in the eleven-year history of this show. Left untreated, addiction decimates everything in its path. I've lived through it. I've borne witness to its wrath in countless others. And I've walked the wreckage it inevitably reaps. But my story pales in comparison to what Chris Herren has endured—and survived to now share in service of helping others. Lauded as one of the greatest basketball players of his generation before he even graduated high school, Chris graced the cover of Sports Illustrated during his freshman year playing point guard for Boston College. Ousted courtesy of his outsized partying led him west to Fresno State, where he flourished for a flash under legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian, leading to stints in the NBA with the Denver Nuggets and Boston Celtics. It didn't last (it never does) so he took his game across the European and Asian circuits, a ticking time-bomb awaiting detonation. Basketball simply couldn't compete with alcohol, cocaine, and heroin. So it wasn't long before Chris' nightmare turned him into into roadkill—an overdose he barely survived that would, inelegantly and eventually, lead to a rebirth and redemption. What has transpired in the 14 years since Chris got sober is a remarkable, phoenix-like journey of recovery and redemption that has transformed his life from utterly craven to one of extraordinary purpose, meaning, and selfless service as a leading voice on the topic of substance use prevention. Note: This conversation traverses difficult emotional terrain. If you are struggling, please raise your hand and reach out for help. You can find information about Alcoholics Anonymous (and meetings near you) at AA.org and Narcotics Anonymous at NA.org. You can also contact SAMHSA's National Helpline at 1-800-662-HELP. If you are experiencing suicidal ideation, know you're not alone. I encourage you to call the Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1(800) 273-TALK. If you are suffering from some form of addiction, this episode is a must-listen. Even if you're not an addict, I encourage you to embrace this conversation as a means to better understand the affliction, as chances are you probably know someone in need of help. Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today's Sponsors: Roka: ROKA.COM/RICHROLL Faherty Brand: FahertyBrand.com/RICHROLL AG1: drinkAG1.com/RICHROLL On: On.com/richroll Peace + Plants, Rich

Harvey Hyde has had a long career in coaching through the collegiate football ranks. He started as a high school assistant coach and worked his way to the head football coach at Hawaii and UNLV. He talks not only about winning on the football field, but how football taught him to win in life! Harvey talks about the days when him and Jerry Tarkanian used to run Las Vegas and why he was let go. Harvey's Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoachHarveyHyde?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor http://harveyhyde.com/ https://www.instagram.com/mikeduppod/ Please share with a friend or two - and please don't forget to leave a review and 5 stars!

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Rich reacts to the Baltimore Ravens pre-draft press conference that got a bit heated when all the reporters wanted to ask about was Lamar Jackson. Shoe/Marketing legend Sonny Vaccaro joins Rich in-studio where he says what it's like being portrayed by Matt Damon in the new film ‘Air,' how bringing Michael Jordan into the Nike fold changed sports marketing forever, how he knew Kobe Bryant was a special competitor even when he was just a junior in high school, and discusses Jerry Tarkanian's UNLV Runnin' Rebels and Michigan's Fab 5's impact on sports culture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Far Middle episode 90 is dedicated to the 1989-90 UNLV Runnin' Rebels basketball team and Coach Jerry Tarkanian, aka “Tark the Shark.” Nick describes the 1990 NCAA Tournament Champs as disruptive and innovative thanks to a combination of super-talented players, coaching, and buttressed by the Amoeba defense. Nick continues the themes of disruption and innovation throughout episode 90, beginning with former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s late 2022 comments on the Uyghur Policy Act. Nick says her speech was quite good, but her words don’t mesh with Congress’ energy and environmental policy actions over the past several years. Those actions have worsened the planet's environmental health, strengthened the oppressor's hand, weakened Western democracies, and are crushing the freedom of the individual. The words from former Speaker Pelosi were great, but unfortunately, her and Congress’ policy actions speak much louder. Nick then rewinds the clock to a May 1941 radio address by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, drawing similarities to FDR’s comments on Germany to the threat we face today from China. “It’s like a voice from the past is warning us about the dangers of the present,” says Nick. He notes he’s not FDR’s biggest fan, as you can read about in Precipice, but commends the former president’s ability to inspire. Next, Nick addresses the confluence of influences and forces that have come together to indoctrinate our next generation into believing climate change is the country and the world’s most pressing problem. The information campaigns that have led to these beliefs are the same that has led to two major mid-Atlantic natural gas pipelines being delayed/canceled by their developers—projects that would have reduced carbon dioxide emissions by approximately 400 million tons. While the U.S. strangles natural gas infrastructure investment, China welcomes it with open arms—to the tune of $2 trillion. And those trillions in state investment are attracting private investment from banks, investors, and private equity. Nick moves from China to the Eurozone, continuing to discuss dollars and illogical sense, as Eurozone government spending is now more than half of the region’s economic output. Nick concludes by noting that February 11, a few days after this episode’s release, marks the day Nelson Mandela was released in 1990 from prison after serving 27 brutal years of incarceration. Nick closes with three inspirational quotes from Mandela. And in Far Middle connection-serendipity, February 11 (2015) also marks the anniversary of Jerry Tarkanian’s passing.

The Pioneers collection is a celebration of black excellence in college basketball during Black History Month, featuring teams such as Texas Western who won the national championship in 1966 with five all-black starters, 1984 Georgetown led by coach John Thompson and star center Patrick Ewing, UNLV led by coach Jerry Tarkanian and players Larry Johnson, Stacey Augmon, and Greg Anthony who won the title in 1990, and the Fab Five, a highly-recruited class of five freshmen who changed the game on and off the court in the early 1990s.Referenced in the show - https://www.blackfives.org/Coach Thompson's Biography - https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250619341/icameasashadowPodcast on Coach Thompson - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5YyHijQybcVmVbvvSbCh1X?si=uU3RH7rmQuC1243u7upJewRich Paul Biography- https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/12/13/People-and-Pop-Culture/rich-paul-book.aspx19nine | Celebrating Hardwood History 19nine knows college basketball. Officially Licensed proud to partner with the leading universities.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. APPLE, SPOTIFY 19Nine Instagram, 19NineTwitter Email Us: 19ninePodcast@19nine.com

Jack Fertig is a veteran basketball coach who worked for Hall of Famers George Raveling and Jerry Tarkanian. Coach Fertig joins Jeff and Lason to share stories of his coaching career.

Take a trip around the world with Alexander Wolff, one of the most lyrical writers of his era. He shares some gems from chronicling basketball's international growth during his 36 years at Sports Illustrated. We're in a car with him, Dennis Rodman and Carmen Electra at 3 a.m. We tag along to remote Asia where royalty wasn't keen on man-to-man D. We hear about Jerry Tarkanian making an offer that Alex refused. Go to Tobacco Road and learn the differences between Dean Smith and Mike Krzyzewski. Alex recounts the college version of Michael Jordan, and how MJ helped spread hoops around the planet. We also talk a little football as Alex explains the backstory of his open letter to The U and its blowback from outraged Miami fans.   The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame recognized Wolff with its 2011 Curt Gowdy Media Award for lifetime contributions to the game as a print journalist. Alex joined Sports Illustrated as a researcher in September 1980 after earning a bachelor's degree in history with honors from Princeton, where he had served as a freelance writer for the Trenton Times. Wolff became a writer at SI in 1982, at age 25, and the magazine named him a senior writer in 1985.   Besides basketball, Wolff also covered the Olympics, the World Cup, the World Series, every Grand Slam tennis event, and the Tour de France before leaving Sports Illustrated and SI.com in 2016 as the longest-tenured writer on staff. He reported from China, Cuba, Russia and Iran, and often wrote about issues where and sports and society intersect.   Wolff's work has been anthologized in The Best American Sports Writing, Best Sports Stories, Sports Illustrated's Fifty Years of Great Writing, and The Princeton Anthology of Writing. In 1996, Alex collaborated with Hoop Dreams filmmakers Peter Gilbert and Steve James to make Team of Broken Dreams, which detailed the impact of the Yugoslav crisis on basketball players from the Balkans. The documentary, based on one of Wolff's Sports Illustrated articles and broadcast on NBC, was nominated for an Emmy and won the International Olympic Committee's Olympic Media Award. When he served as president of the U.S. Basketball Writers Association, Wolff helped found the USBWA's Full Court Press journalism scholarship and seminar program. He is the former owner of the now defunct Vermont Frost Heaves, which won American Basketball Association championships in 2007 and 2008.   Wolff is the author or co-author of seven books about basketball: Wolf also edited and introduced a collection of basketball writing for the Library of America in 2018 called “Basketball: Great Writing about America's Game.”   “Endpaper: A Family Story of Books, War, Escape, and Home” is Wolff's latest book, published in 2021. He explores the lives of his grandfather and father, who were both born in Germany and later became American citizens.   Check out Alex's website: https://alexanderwolff.com/   Read articles that Alex wrote for Sports Illustrated: https://alexanderwolff.com/stories-for-sports-illustrated/   Follow him on Twitter: @alexander_wolff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this Friday edition of the show, Aaron explains why we actually learned a lot about Big Ten Media Days, including the confident Michigan Wolverines, James Franklin speaking his mind and Kevin Warren being full of-you-know what. Then he welcomes in 10-year NBA vet Rafer Alston to talk about the And1 MixTape Tour and a new documentary and wraps with "Aaron Right/Aaron Wrong." Here's a full rundown of the show: What we learned at Big Ten Media Days (3:00): Aaron opens the show by discussing Big Ten Media Days takeaways. He explains why the event proved Kevin Warren is full of it, and why he doesn't buy any expansion rumors. Also, confident Jim Harbaugh, swaggy James Franklin and why Scott Frost saying nothing, meant everything. Rafer Alston joins the show (24:00): Next up, Aaron welcomes on 10-year NBA vet Rafer Alston to the show to discuss the new Showtime documentary "Point Gods." The guys discuss growing up in New York, playing for Jerry Tarkanian, the And1 Mixtape tour and more. Aaron Right/Aaron Wrong (57:00): Finally, Aaron wraps with America's favorite segment - Where Aaron Was Right, Where Aaron Was Wrong. Among the topics include SEC football projections, LIV Golf, Jeremy Pruitt, John Calipari's recruiting and more. Today's episode is brought to you by DraftKings Sports Book - bet $5 on any UFC 277 fight and automatically win $100 in free bets thanks to DraftKings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan Wetzel takes us into the gray netherworld of sports, where some writers aren't willing to tread. We discuss how his experiences covering college basketball and AAU taught him to look beyond cliches. Hear about characters such as Sonny Vaccaro, Jerry Tarkanian and others who were easily cast into roles for a simple narrative. Dan puts us in the media room when John Chaney threatened to kill John Calipari. And the Yahoo Sports national columnist describes the tensions and emotions that existed in the court rooms when he covered the trials of Aaron Hernandez and Larry Nassar. Wetzel is the author of these books: · “Sole Influence: Basketball, Corporate Greed and the Corruption of America's Youth” with Don Yaeger of Sports Illustrated · “Glory Road” with former University of Texas-El Paso basketball coach Don Haskins · “Runnin' Rebel: Shark Tales of ‘Extra Benefits,' Frank Sinatra, and Winning It All” with former UNLV basketball coach Jerry Tarkanian. · “Resilience: Faith, Focus, Triumph” with Alonso Mourning · “Death to the BCS: The Definitive Case Against the Bowl Championship Series” with Josh Peter and Jeff Passan   And he has written several sports biographies for children as part of the Epic Athletes series : · Stephen Curry · Alex Morgan · Serena Williams · Tom Brady · LeBron James · Lionel Messi · Simone Biles · Kevin Durant · Patrick Mahomes · Zion Williamson   Follow him on Twitter (@DanWetzel) and Instagram (wetzelsports). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

PennLive's David Jones and Bob Flounders chat with Yahoo Sports columnist Dan Wetzel on this episode of the Blue-White Breakdown. Wetzel, a New York Times' best-selling author, shares his thoughts on the Big Ten's best coaches, the impact of NIL, the future of Big Ten football schedules and his favorite Jerry Tarkanian stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ross Porter pays his first visit to the “Fifth Hour with Ben Maller, and Danny G Radio.” Ross spent 28 glorious seasons working alongside Vin Scully calling Los Angeles Dodgers games on radio and television. We do a deep dive into his spectacular career behind the microphones that started in Shawnee, Oklahoma at the tender age of 14. Ross has seen and done it all, he worked at NBC in LA with TV legends Tom Brokaw and Tom Snyder, covered Super Bowl I, called regional NFL games, and UNLV basketball during the Jerry Tarkanian glory days and so much more. It's a resume that landed Porter a spot in the Southern California Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Ross played an influential role in helping Ben as a neophyte on DodgerTalk early in his career.  Follow Ross on Twitter @therossporter, and check out his YouTube channel: Ross Porter Sports. Follow Danny G Radio on Twitter @DannyGradio, Follow Big Ben on Twitter @BenMaller, and listen to the original "Ben Maller Show," Monday-Friday on 450+ terrestrial Fox Sports Radio affiliates, iHeart stream, and SiriusXM Radio channel 83, 2a-6a ET, 11p-3a PT! #BenMaller #FSRWeekends See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ross Porter pays his first visit to the “Fifth Hour with Ben Maller, and Danny G Radio.” Ross spent 28 glorious seasons working alongside Vin Scully calling Los Angeles Dodgers games on radio and television. We do a deep dive into his spectacular career behind the microphones that started in Shawnee, Oklahoma at the tender age of 14. Ross has seen and done it all, he worked at NBC in LA with TV legends Tom Brokaw and Tom Snyder, covered Super Bowl I, called regional NFL games, and UNLV basketball during the Jerry Tarkanian glory days and so much more. It's a resume that landed Porter a spot in the Southern California Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Ross played an influential role in helping Ben as a neophyte on DodgerTalk early in his career.  Follow Ross on Twitter @therossporter, and check out his YouTube channel: Ross Porter Sports. Follow Danny G Radio on Twitter @DannyGradio, Follow Big Ben on Twitter @BenMaller, and listen to the original "Ben Maller Show," Monday-Friday on 450+ terrestrial Fox Sports Radio affiliates, iHeart stream, and SiriusXM Radio channel 83, 2a-6a ET, 11p-3a PT! #BenMaller #FSRWeekends See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ross Porter pays his first visit to the “Fifth Hour with Ben Maller, and Danny G Radio.” Ross spent 28 glorious seasons working alongside Vin Scully calling Los Angeles Dodgers games on radio and television. We do a deep dive into his spectacular career behind the microphones that started in Shawnee, Oklahoma at the tender age of 14. Ross has seen and done it all, he worked at NBC in LA with TV legends Tom Brokaw and Tom Snyder, covered Super Bowl I, called regional NFL games, and UNLV basketball during the Jerry Tarkanian glory days and so much more. It's a resume that landed Porter a spot in the Southern California Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Ross played an influential role in helping Ben as a neophyte on DodgerTalk early in his career.  Follow Ross on Twitter @therossporter, and check out his YouTube channel: Ross Porter Sports. Follow Danny G Radio on Twitter @DannyGradio, Follow Big Ben on Twitter @BenMaller, and listen to the original "Ben Maller Show," Monday-Friday on 450+ terrestrial Fox Sports Radio affiliates, iHeart stream, and SiriusXM Radio channel 83, 2a-6a ET, 11p-3a PT! #BenMaller #FSRWeekends See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Casey Hall and I take a deep dive on "Winning Time" Episode III, uniquely titled "The Best Is Yet to Come". This episode highlights the search for a new Lakers coach, with Dr. Buss adamant that Jerry Tarkanian is his guy. Other subplots include Earvin Johnson's acclimation to Los Angeles socially and Jerry West finding his way. It's our favorite episode so far, so enjoy!

Llegamos al tercer capítulo de la serie de HBO Max Lakers: Tiempo de ganar, y comentamos con ustedes los momentos mas importantes en este capítulo, como la salida de jerry West y su reacción posterior, aparece por primera vez el personaje de Pat Riley, la tortuosa relacion de Magic y Norm Nixon, el interés de Jerry Buss de hacerse de los servicios del legendario coach colegial Jerry Tarkanian para dirigir a sus Lakers, las tentaciones para Magic en Los Ángeles, y mucho mas. www.deportres.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/deportres/support

Trysta looks at the latest episode of Winning Time and a crazy story she was unaware of. There are also team trying to make power moves before the playoffs, and Poppovich is actually having some fun not that he has an untouchable resume. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former NBA Player turned Motivational Speaker Chris Herren was gracious enough to talk with host Tim McCarthy of 20TIMinutes. Tim & Chris talk about Chris's addiction to drugs, how it ruined his playing career, his recovery which lead him to be a motivational speaker, the mission of ‘Herren Talks’, and the two also even talk little pro wrestling to wrap up the interview. This is a really fun and intriguing conversation! Be sure to watch the interview on YouTube, so you can witness their rock, paper, scissors matchup! Chris Herren was a high school basketball legend from Fall River, Massachusetts, who scored over 2,000 career points while at Durfee High School and was named to the 1994 McDonald’s All-American team. Starting his collegiate career at Boston College, Chris transferred to Fresno State after several failed drug tests, playing for legendary basketball coach Jerry Tarkanian, known for giving second chances to players. He was named to the All-WAC first team in 1996 and 1997 before announcing that he would need miss part of the 97-98 season to seek treatment for an ongoing struggle with substance use disorder. Chris realized his lifelong dream of playing in the NBA when he was drafted by the Denver Nuggets in 1999, and then was traded to his hometown team, the Boston Celtics, in 2000. After suffering a season-ending injury as a Celtic, Herren went on to play in five countries including Italy, Poland, Turkey, China, and Iran. With the unwavering support of his family and friends, Chris has been sober since August 1, 2008, and he now shares his story with the goal of making a positive difference in the lives of others. His recovery journey has been documented in the bestselling memoir, Basketball Junkie, the Emmy-nominated ESPN Films documentary, Unguarded, and in countless local, national and international stories by The New York Times, The Boston Globe and Sports Illustrated, among others. Through Herren Talks, Chris has spoken to over 1 million students and community members, sparking honest discussions about substance use disorder and wellness. In 2011, Chris grew his vision of support for others when he founded the nonprofit Herren Project. Through the organization, Chris and his team empower schools and communities to make healthy choices, while also guiding families through recovery. In 2018, Chris also founded Herren Wellness, a residential health and wellness program that helps guests lead healthy, substance-free lives. With recognition ranging from the Boston Celtics’ Hero Among Us Award to the Faces and Voices of Recovery National Voice of Recovery Award, Chris’s incredible impact on his community continues to grow. Follow Chris: YouTube Instagram Twitter Facebook Purchase 20TIMinutes Merch:Phx Print Co Collab20TIMinutes Gear Follow Tim: YouTube Instagram Twitter Facebook Download the FREE 20TIMinutes AppSupport 20TIMinutes on BuyMeACoffee.com DISCLAIMER: This podcast is for entertainment purposes only & informs all listeners of the podcast, that the views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in the each episode belong solely to the host of 20TIMinutes, Tim McCarthy, and not necessarily to the podcast hosts employer, organization, committee or other group or individual. Tim is NOT a mental health professional. Tim only speaks about his own personal struggles and what works for him. If you're in need of help mentally or physically, please contact your primary care provider, a mental health professional or in case of an emergency, dial 911.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Canzano talks to Eric Prisbell of On3.com about the NCAA Tournament bracket, who he likes as trendy upsets, and tells some stories from his early days in sports journalism covering Jerry Tarkanian and UNLV. Subscribe NOW to this podcast for more great content. And catch The Bald Faced Truth with John Canzano live every weekday at a new time, 3-6 p.m. on 750 The Game. Follow @JohnCanzanoBFT on Twitter

On this week's episode, we go over coaches as titans of college basketball from Coach K to the Izzone. We finish talking about conference tournaments.  In our Unanswerable Questions segment, we break down Billy Ball and Oklahoma's best team. Longtime CBS analyst Billy Packer, in his book, placed the Sooners among the top 15 college teams of all time. They pressed full court, created turnovers galore, shot quickly and played ferociously. The starting unit of Grace and Blaylock and Harvey Grant and Stacey King and Dave Sieger became so well-conditioned that by season's end Tubbs rarely had to substitute, and the assault was never ending. There is nothing like it in college basketball anymore. The days of Nolan Richardson's 40 minutes of Arkansas hell and Jerry Tarkanian's Runnin' Rebels and OU's BillyBall are over. The game is pedestrian, played not by refined stars but by young prospects headed for the NBA after a college drive-thru. That was a unique group of guys because we had speed, quicks and endurance,” Tubbs said. “And they loved to play like we wanted to play. It's hard to play like we played. That's why people don't play that way. It takes tremendous endurance.” And Josh gets a personal favorite off his chest discussing an all-time ACC performer Randolph Childress.   We finish up with And 1 Grail record you'd most like your progeny to have - Maravich scoring record, On a team that matches UCLA's win streak, On an undefeated team...And 119nine | Celebrating Hardwood History 19nine knows college basketball. Officially Licensed proud to partner with the leading universities.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.

Colin reacts to the college hoops postgame handshake altercation between Michigan HC Juwan Howard and Wisconsin's Greg Gard, why Phil Mickelson's take on the proposed Saudi golf league sounds like an Onion headline, and which team makes sense for a Tom Brady comeback. (3:00) Then, Ian O'Connor -- NY Post columnist and author of Belichick and the upcoming Coach K -- and Colin discuss the time both of them spent covering Jerry Tarkanian and UNLV (11:00), the rough early years of of Coach K at Duke (16:00), the turning point for Coach K's program (21:00), if Coach K has surpassed John Wooden on the all-time college hoops coaching list (26:00), the biggest factors in Krzyzewski's decision to retire (28:00), why so many New York pro sports teams are so bad (31:00), which bad NY franchise has the best chance to turn it around (34:00), and why Ian thinks it's only a matter of time before Tom Brady comes back to the NFL (37:00), and how Bruce Arians may have driven Brady away (39:00). Make sure you follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Colin reacts to the college hoops postgame handshake altercation between Michigan HC Juwan Howard and Wisconsin's Greg Gard, why Phil Mickelson's take on the proposed Saudi golf league sounds like an Onion headline, and which team makes sense for a Tom Brady comeback. (3:00) Then, Ian O'Connor -- NY Post columnist and author of Belichick and the upcoming Coach K -- and Colin discuss the time both of them spent covering Jerry Tarkanian and UNLV (11:00), the rough early years of of Coach K at Duke (16:00), the turning point for Coach K's program (21:00), if Coach K has surpassed John Wooden on the all-time college hoops coaching list (26:00), the biggest factors in Krzyzewski's decision to retire (28:00), why so many New York pro sports teams are so bad (31:00), which bad NY franchise has the best chance to turn it around (34:00), and why Ian thinks it's only a matter of time before Tom Brady comes back to the NFL (37:00), and how Bruce Arians may have driven Brady away (39:00). Make sure you follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

We are taking it back to one of our favorite eras of hoops for this one. The Super-Sub is in the house! Ricky Sobers joins us on the podcast for an episode that true basketball fans will absolutely love and appreciate. Ricky Sobers grew up in The Bronx, NY during a very special era of basketball. He was one of the greatest players from the city to ever play on the blacktop during his time and never even played a minute of High School basketball. His love for the game and guidance from  Tiny Archibald helped him continue his basketball dreams to the College of Southern Idaho and UNLV where he was coach Jerry Tarkanian's first big recruit and was the WCAC Player of the Year in 1974-75. Sobers became the 16th overall pick in the 1975 NBA Draft. He played 11 seasons in the NBA and played in the famous "Greatest Game Ever Played”.This was truly an honor. Sobers shared amazing stories about the blacktop game in NYC, Tiny Archibald, Joe Hammond, Jerry Tarkanian, UNLV, Rick Barry, Paul Westphal, Gar Heard, The Greatest Game Ever Played, raising his number 40 to the rafters and MUCH more. BIG Thanks to Ricky Sobers! We are forever grateful for the opportunity and we know you'll all love and appreciate his journey just as much as we did.Thank you Ricky Sobers!Be ready for his book titled “The Ghost of the South Bronx” Or if you would like to learn more about Crypto or his Travel Club then you can email him at his email listed at the end of the episode.You can find this episode on Apple, Spotify or any source for podcasts.Follow us on social media for news, updates and highlight reels!Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/notin.myhouse.79Instagram- @Not_in_my_house_podcastTwitter - @NOTINMYHOUSEpc

The Runnin' Rebels, coached by Jerry Tarkanian, entered the season as defending national champions and entered the 1991 NCAA tournament unbeaten, but lost in the national semifinal to eventual champions Duke when Anderson Hunt's desperation three in the final seconds bounced off the backboard and into the hands of a Duke player, Bobby Hurley, ending a 45-game winning streak that dated back to the previous season. This podcast is brought to you by Lumberlend Co, Home of the Original Bat Mug.

John Canzano talks with Eric Prisbell, a college sports business writer for ON3 Sports as we get set for Tip-Off Tuesday in the college basketball world. Canzano asks Prisbell about the overall feeling of this upcoming college basketball season, which teams and players he is most curious to see early in the season, what does he make of coach Mike Krzyzewski's legacy and final season at Duke, what does he make of the disrespect show to the Pac-12 after such a great NCAA tournament performance last season, how has NIL affected college basketball, what did he learn from his experience covering Jerry Tarkanian, and more. Subscribe NOW to this podcast for more great content. Follow @JohnCanzanoBFT on Twitter

There's a place where sports and data meet, and it's as powerful a collision as on any football field!  Jeff Sagarin has been a figurehead in the sports analytics realm for decades, and we're thrilled to have had the chance to have him on to talk about his data journey!  There's a fair mix of math AND sports geek out time in this episode.  And, did we mention that Dr. Wayne Winston is sitting in on this episode as well? References in this Episode: 2 Frictionless Colliding Boxes Video Scorigami Episode Transcript: Rob Collie (00:00:00): Hello, friends. Today's guest is Jeff Sagarin. Is that name familiar to you? It's very familiar to me. In my life, Jeff's work might very well be my first brush with the concept of using data for any sort of advantage. His Power Ranking Columns, first appeared in USA Today in 1985, when I was 11 years old. And what a fascinating concept that was. Rob Collie (00:00:29): It probably won't surprise you if I confess that 11-year-old me was not particularly good at sports, but I was still fascinated and captivated by them. 11-year-old kids in my neighborhood were especially prone to associating sports with their tribal identity. Everyone had their favorite teams, their favorite sports stars. And invariably, this led to arguments about which sports star was better than the other sports star, who was going to win this game coming up and who would win a tournament amongst all of these teams and things of that sort. Rob Collie (00:01:01): Now that I've explained it that way though, I guess being an adult sports fan isn't too terribly different, is it? Those arguments, of course, aren't the sorts of arguments where there's anything resembling a clear winner. But in practice, the person who won was usually the one with the loudest voice or the sickest burn that they could deliver to their friends. And then in 1985, the idea was planted in my head by Jeff Sagarin's column in USA Today, that there actually was a relatively objective way to evaluate teams that had never played against one another and likely never would. Rob Collie (00:01:33): I wasn't into computers at the time. I certainly wasn't into the concept of data. I didn't know what a database was. I didn't know what a spreadsheet was. And yet, this was still an incredibly captivating and powerful idea. So in my life, Jeff Sagarin is the first public figure that I encountered in the sports analytics industry long before it was cool. And because it was sports, a topic that was relevant to 11-year-old me, he's really also my first brush with analytics at all. Rob Collie (00:02:07): It's not surprising then, that to me, Jeff is absolutely a celebrity. As a guest, in insider podcasting lingo, Jeff is what we call a good get. We owe that pleasure, of course, to him being close friends with Wayne Winston, a former guest on the show, who also joined us today as co-guest. Rob Collie (00:02:28): Now, if none of that speaks to you, let's try this alternate description. He's probably also the world's most famous active FORTRAN programmer. I admit that I was so starstruck by this that I didn't even really push as hard as I normally would, in terms of getting into the techniques that he uses. I didn't want to run afoul of asking him for trade secrets. At times, this conversation did devolve into four dudes sitting around talking about sports. Rob Collie (00:02:59): But setting that aside, there are some really, really interesting and heartwarming things happening in this conversation as well. Again, the accidental path to where he is today, the intersection of persistence and good fortune that's required really for success in anything. Bottom line, this is the story of a national and highly influential figure at the intersection of the sports industry and the analytics industry for more than three decades. It's not every day you get to hear that story. So let's get into it. Announcer (00:03:34): Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention, please? Announcer (00:03:39): This is the Raw Data by P3 Adaptive podcast with your host, Rob Colley and your co-host, Thomas LaRock. Find out what the experts at P3 Adaptive can do for your business. Just go to p3adaptive.com. Raw Data by P3 Adaptive is data with the human element. Rob Collie (00:04:02): Welcome to the show, Jeff Sagarin. And welcome back to the show. Wayne Winston. So thrilled to have the two of you with us today. This is awesome. We've been looking forward to this for a long time. So thank you very much gentlemen, for being here. Jeff Sagarin (00:04:16): You're welcome. Rob Collie (00:04:18): Jeff, usually we kick these things off with, "Hey, tell us a little about yourself, your background, blah, blah, blah." Let's start off with me telling you about you. It's a story about you that you wouldn't know. I remember for a very long time being aware of you. Rob Collie (00:04:35): So I'm 47 years old, born in 1974. My father had participated for many years in this shady off-the-books college football pick'em pool that was run out of the high school in a small town in Florida. Like the sheets with everybody's entries would show up. They were run on ditto paper, like that blue ink. It was done in the school ditto room and he did this every year. This was like the most fascinating thing that happened in the entire year to me. Like these things showing up at our house, this packet of all these picks, believe it or not, they were handwritten. These grids were handwritten with everyone's picks. It was ridiculous. Rob Collie (00:05:17): He got eliminated every year. There were a couple of hundred entries every year and he just got his butt kicked every year. But then one year, he did his homework. He researched common opponents and things like that or that kind of stuff. I seem to recall this having something to do timing wise with you. So I looked it up. Your column first appeared in USA Today in 1985. Is that correct? Jeff Sagarin (00:05:40): Yeah. Tuesday, January 8th 1985. Rob Collie (00:05:44): I remember my dad winning this pool that year and using the funds to buy a telescope to look at Halley's Comet when it showed up. And so I looked up Halley's Comet. What do you know? '86. So it would have been like the January ballgames of 1986, where he won this pool. And in '85, were you power ranking college football teams or was that other sports? Jeff Sagarin (00:06:11): Yes. Rob Collie (00:06:12): Okay. So when my dad said that he did his research that year, what he really did was read your stuff. You bought my dad a telescope in 1986 so that we could go have one of the worst family vacations of all time. It was just awful. Thank you. Jeff Sagarin (00:06:31): You're very welcome. Rob Collie (00:06:39): I kind of think of you as the first publicly known figure in sports analytics. You probably weren't the first person to apply math and computers to sports analytics, but you're the first person I heard of. Jeff Sagarin (00:06:51): There is a guy that people don't even talk about very much. Now a guy named Earnshaw Cook, who first inspired me when I was a sophomore in high school in the '63-'64 school year, there was an article by Frank Deford in Sports Illustrated about Earnshaw Cook publishing a book called Percentage Baseball. So I convinced my mom to let me have $10 to order it by mail and I got it. I started playing around with his various ideas in it. He was the first guy I ever heard of and that was in March of 1964. Rob Collie (00:07:28): All right, so everyone's got an origin story. Jeff Sagarin (00:07:31): The Dunkel family started doing the Dunkel ratings back I believe in 1929. Then there was a professor, I think he was at Vanderbilt, named [Lipkin House 00:07:41], he was I think at Vanderbilt. And for years, he did the high school ratings in states like maybe Tennessee and Kentucky. I think he gave Kentucky that Louisville courier his methodology before he died. But I don't know if they continue his work or not. But there were people way before me. Rob Collie (00:08:03): But they weren't in USA Today. Jeff Sagarin (00:08:04): That's true. Rob Collie (00:08:06): They weren't nationally distributed, like on a very regular basis. I've been hearing your name longer than I've even been working with computers. That's pretty crazy. How did you even get hooked up with USA Today? Jeff Sagarin (00:08:23): People might say, "You got lucky." My answer, as you'll see as well, I'd worked for 12 years to be in a position to get lucky. I started getting paid for doing this in September of 1972 with an in-house publication of pro football weekly called Insider's Pro Football Newsletter. Jeff Sagarin (00:08:45): In the Spring of '72, I'd written letters to like 100 newspapers saying because I had started by hand doing my own rating system for pro football in the fall of 1971. Just by hand, every Sunday night, I'd get the scores and add in the Monday night. I did it as a hobby. I wasn't doing it for a living. I did it week by week and charted the teams. It was all done with some charts I'd made up with a normal distribution and a slide rule. So I sent out letters in the spring of '72 to about 100 papers saying, "Hey, would you be interested in running my stuff?" Jeff Sagarin (00:09:19): They either didn't answer me or all said, "No, not interested." But I got a call right before I left to go to California when an old college friend that spring. It was from William Wallace, who was a big time football correspondent for The New York Times. That anecdote may be in that article by Andy Glockner. He called me up, he was at the New York Times, but he said also, "I write articles for extra money for pro football weekly. I wanted to just kind of talk to you." Jeff Sagarin (00:09:49): He wrote an article that appeared in Pro Quarterback magazine in September of '72. But during the middle of that summer, I got a phone call from Pro Football weekly, the publisher, a guy named [inaudible 00:10:04] said, "Hey Jeff. Have you seen our ad in street and Smith's?" It didn't matter. It could have been their pro magazine or college. I said, "Yeah, I did." And he said, "Do you notice it said we've got a world famous handicapper to do our predictions for us?" I said, "Yeah, I did see that." He said, "How would you like to be that world famous handicapper? We don't have anybody." Jeff Sagarin (00:10:25): We just said that because he said William Wallace told us to call you. So I said, "Okay, I'll be your world famous handicapper." I didn't start off that well and they had this customer, it was a paid newsletter and there was a customer from Hawaii. He had a great name, Charles Fujiwara. He'd send letters every week saying, "Sagarin's terrible, but he's winning a fortune for me. I just reverse his picks every week." So finally, finally, my numbers turn the tide and I had this one great week, where I went 8-0. He sent another letter saying, "I'm bankrupt. The kid destroyed me." Because he was reversing all my picks. That's a true story. Rob Collie (00:11:07): At least he had a sense of humor. It sounds like a pretty interesting fellow on the other end of that letter. Jeff Sagarin (00:11:13): He sounds like he could have been like the guy, if you've ever seen reruns of the old show, '77 Sunset Strip. In it, there this guy who's kind of a racetrack trout gambler named Roscoe. He sounds like he could have been Roscoe. Rob Collie (00:11:26): We have to look that one up. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:11:27): It's before your time. Rob Collie (00:11:28): I don't think I saw that show. Jeff Sagarin (00:11:29): Yeah. Wayne's seen it though. Rob Collie (00:11:31): Yes. I love that. There are things that are both before my time and I have like old man knees. So I've heard this kind of thing before, by the way. It's called the 10-year overnight success. Jeff Sagarin (00:11:47): I forgot. How did I get with USA Today? I started with Pro Football weekly and continued with them. I was with them until actually why don't we say sometime in the fall of '82. I ended up in other newspapers, little by little: The Boston Globe, Louisville Courier Journal. And then in the spring of '81, I got into a conversation over the phone with Jim van Valkenburg, who is the stat guy at the NCAA. I happened to mention that going into the tournament, I had Indiana to win the tournament. They were rated like 10th in the conventional polls. Jeff Sagarin (00:12:23): And so he remembered that and he kept talking behind the scenes to people in the NCAA about that. And so years later, in 1988, they called me out to talk to them. But anyhow, I had developed a good reputation and I gave him as a reference. Wayne called me up excitedly in let's say, early September of 1984. He said, "Hey, Jeff. You've got to buy a copy of today's USA Today and turn to the end of the sports section. You're going to be sick." Jeff Sagarin (00:12:53): I said, "Really? Okay." So I opened to where he said and I was sick. They had computer ratings by some guy. He was a good guy named Thomas Jech, J-E-C-H. And I said, "Damn, that should be me. I've been doing this for all these years and I didn't even know they were looking for this." So I call up on the phone. Sometimes there's a lot of luck involved. I got to talk to a guy named Bob Barbara who I believe is retired now there. He had on the phone this gruff sounding voice out of like a Grade B movie from the film, The War. "What's going on Kitty?" It sounds like he had a cigar in his mouth. Jeff Sagarin (00:13:30): I said, "Well, I do these computer ratings." [inaudible 00:13:33] Said "Well, really? That's interesting. We've already got somebody." He said, "But how would you even send it to us?" I said, "Well, I dictate over the phone." He said, "Dictate? We don't take dictation at USA Today, kid. Have you ever heard of personal computers and a modem?" I said, "Well, I have but I just do it on a mainframe at IU and I dictate over the phone to the Louisville Courier and the local..." Jeff Sagarin (00:13:58): Well, the local paper here, I gave them a printout. He said, "Kid, you need to buy yourself a PC and learn how to use a modem." So I kind of was embarrassed. I said, "Well, I'll see." So about 10 days later, I called him up and said, "Hey, what's the phone number for your modem?" He said, "Crap. You again, kid? I thought I got rid of you." He says, "All right. I'll give you the phone number." So I sent him a sample printout. He says, "Yeah, yeah, we got it. Keep in touch. We're not going to change for football. But this other guy, he may not want to do basketball. So keep in touch. Who knows what will happen for basketball?" Jeff Sagarin (00:14:31): So every month I'd call up saying, "It's me again, keeping touch." He said, "I can't get rid of you. You're like a bad penny that keeps turning up." So finally he says look, after about five of these calls, spreading out until maybe late November, "Look kid, why don't you wait... Call me up the first Sunday of the new year," which would have been like Sunday, January 6 of 1985 I believe. So I waited. I called him up. Sure enough, he said, "You again?" I said, "You told me you wanted to do college basketball." Jeff Sagarin (00:15:04): He said, "Yeah, you're kind of right. The other guy doesn't want to do it." So he said, "Well, do you mind if we call it the USA Today computer ratings? We kind of like to put our own name on everything." I said, "Well, wait a minute. During the World Series, you had Pete Rose as your guest columnist, you want not only gave his name, but you had a picture of him." He said, "God damn it." He said, "I can't..." He said, "You win again kid. Give us a bio." Jeff Sagarin (00:15:32): An old friend of both me and Wayne was on a business trip. He lived in California, but one of the companies he did work for was Magnavox, which at the time had a presence in Fort Wayne. So he had stopped off in Bloomington so we could say hi. We hadn't seen each other for many years. So he wrote my bio for me, which is still used in the agate in the USA Today. So it's the same bio all these years. Jeff Sagarin (00:15:56): So they started printing me on Tuesday, January 8 of 1985. On the front page that day and I got my editor of a couple years ago, he found an old physical copy of that paper and sent it to me and I thought that's pretty cool. And on the front page, they said, "Well, this would be the 50th birthday of Elvis Presley." I get, they did not have a banner headline at the top, "Turn to the sports and see Jeff Sagarin's debut." That was not what they did. It was all about Elvis Presley. And so people will tell me, "Wow! You got really lucky." Jeff Sagarin (00:16:30): Yeah, but I was in a position. I'd worked for 12 years since the fall of '72 to get in position to then get lucky. They told me I had some good recommendations from people. Rob Collie (00:16:42): Well, even that persistence to keep calling in the face of relatively discouraging feedback. So that conversation took place, and then two days later, you're in the paper. Jeff Sagarin (00:16:54): Well, yeah. He said, "Send us the ratings." They might have needed a time lag. So if I sent the ratings in on a Sunday night or Monday morning, they'd print them on Tuesday. They're not as instant. Now, I update every day on their website. For the paper, they take whatever the most recent ones they can access off their website, depending on I've sent it in, which is I always send them in early in the morning like when I get up. So they print on a Tuesday there'll be taking the ratings that they would have had in their hands Monday, which would be through Sunday's games. Rob Collie (00:17:26): That Tuesday, was that just college basketball? Jeff Sagarin (00:17:28): Then it was. Then in the fall of 85. They began using me for college football, not that they thought I was better or worse one way or the other than Thomas Jech who was a smart guy, he was a math professor at the time at Penn State. He just got tired of doing it. He had more important things to do. Serious, I don't mean that sarcastically. That was just like a fun hobby for him from what I understand. Rob Collie (00:17:50): I was going to ask you if you hadn't already gone and answered the question ahead of time. I was going to ask you well, what happened to the other guy? Did you go like all Tonya Harding on him or whatever? Did you take out your rival? No, sounds like Nancy Kerrigan just went ahead and retired. Although I hate to make you Tonya Harding in this analogy and I just realized I just Hardinged you. Jeff Sagarin (00:18:10): He was just evidently a really good math professor. It was just something he did for fun to do the ratings. Rob Collie (00:18:17): Opportunity and preparation right where they intersect. That's "luck". Jeff Sagarin (00:18:22): It would be as if Wally Pipp had retired and Lou Gehrig got to replace him in the analogy, Lou Gehrig gets the first base job but actually Wally Pipp in real life did not retire. He had the bad luck to get a cold or something or an injury and he never got back in the starting lineup after that. Rob Collie (00:18:38): What about Drew Bledsoe? I think he did get hurt. Did we ever see him again? Thomas LaRock (00:18:43): The very next season, he was in Buffalo and then he went to Dallas. Rob Collie (00:18:46): I don't remember this at all. Thomas LaRock (00:18:47): And not only that, but when he went to Dallas, he got hurt again and Tony Romo came on to take over. Rob Collie (00:18:53): Oh my god! So Drew Bledsoe is Wally Pipp X2. Thomas LaRock (00:18:58): Yeah, X2. Rob Collie (00:19:02): I just need to go find wherever Drew Bledsoe is right now and go get in line behind him. Thomas LaRock (00:19:08): He's making wine in Walla Walla, Washington. I know exactly where he is. Rob Collie (00:19:12): I'm about to inherit a vineyard gentlemen. Okay, so Wayne's already factored into this story. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:19:23): A little bit. Rob Collie (00:19:23): A bit part but an important one. We would call you Mr. Narrative Hook in the movie. Like you'd be the guy that's like, "Jeff, you've got to get a copy of USA Today and turn to page 10. You're going to be sick." Jeff Sagarin (00:19:37): Well, I was I'm glad Wayne told me to do it. If I'd never known that, who knows what I'd be doing right now? Rob Collie (00:19:44): Yeah. So you guys are longtime friends, right? Dr. Wayne Winston (00:19:47): Yeah. Jeff, should take this. Jeff Sagarin (00:19:49): September 1967 in the TV room at Ashdown Graduate's House across from the dorm we lived, because the graduate students there had rigged up, we call it a full screen TV that was actually quite huge. It's simply projected from a regular TV onto a maybe a 10 foot by 10 foot old fashioned movie projector screen. We'd go there to watch ballgames. Okay, because better than watching on a 10 inch diagonal black and white TV in the dorm. And it turned out we both had a love for baseball and football games. Thomas LaRock (00:20:26): So just to be clear, though, this was no ordinary school. This is MIT. Because this is what people at MIT would do is take some weird tech thing and go, "We can make this even better, make a big screen TV." Jeff Sagarin (00:20:38): We didn't know how to do it, which leads into Wayne's favorite story about our joint science escapades at MIT. If Wayne wants to start it off, you might like this. I was a junior and Wayne was a sophomore at the time. I'll set Wayne up for it, there was a requirement that MIT no matter what your major, one of the sort of distribution courses you had to take was a laboratory class. Why don't we let Wayne take the ball for a while on this? Dr. Wayne Winston (00:21:05): I'm not very mechanically inclined. I got a D in wood shop and a D in metal shop. Jeff's not very mechanically inclined either. We took this lab class and we were trying to figure out identifying a coin based on the sound waves it would produce under the Scylla scope. And so the first week, we couldn't get the machine to work. And the professor said, "Turn it on." And so we figured that step out and the next week, the machine didn't work. He said, "Plug it in." Jeff can take it from there. Jeff Sagarin (00:21:46): It didn't really fit the mathematical narrative exactly of what metals we knew were in the coin. But then I noticed, nowadays we'd probably figure out this a reason. If we multiplied our answers by something like 100 pi, we got the right numbers. So they were correctly proportional. So we just multiplied our answers by 100 pi and said, "As you can see, it's perfectly deducible." Rob Collie (00:22:14): There's a YouTube video that we should probably link that is crazy. It shows that two boxes on a frictionless surface a simulation and the number of times that they collide, when you slide them towards a wall together, when they're like at 10X ratio of mass, the number of times that they impact each other starts to become the digits of pi. Jeff Sagarin (00:22:34): Wow. Rob Collie (00:22:35): Before they separate. Jeff Sagarin (00:22:36): That's interesting. Rob Collie (00:22:36): It's just bizarre. And then they go through explaining like why it is pi and you understand it while the video is playing. And then the video ends and you've completely lost it. Jeff Sagarin (00:22:49): I'm just asking now, are they saying if you do that experiment an infinite amount of times, the average number of times they collide will be pi? Rob Collie (00:22:57): That's a really good question. I think it's like the number of collisions as you increase the ratios of the weight or something like that start to become. It's like you'll get 314 collisions, for instance, in a certain weight ratio, because that's the only three digits of pi that I remember. It's 3.14. It's a fascinating little watch. So the 100 pi thing, you said that, I'm like, "Yeah, that just... Of course it's 100 pi." Even boxes colliding on a frictionless surface do pi things apparently. Jeff Sagarin (00:23:29): Maybe it's a universal constant in everything we do. Rob Collie (00:23:29): You just don't expect pi to surface itself. It has nothing to do with waves, no wavelength, no arcs of circles, nothing like that. But that sneaky video, they do show you that it actually has something to do with circles and angles and stuff. Jeff Sagarin (00:23:44): Mutual friend of me and Wayne, this guy named Robin. He loves Fibonacci. And so every time I see a particular game end by a certain score, I'll just say, "Hey, Robin. Research the score of..." I think it was blooming to North against some other team. And he did. It turned out Bloomington North had won 155-34, which are the two adjacent Fibonacci, the two particular adjacent Fibonacci. Robin loves that stuff. You'll find a lot of that actually. It's hard to double Fibonacci a team though. That would be like 89-34. Rob Collie (00:24:18): I know about the Fibonacci sequence. But I can't pick Fibonacci sequence numbers out of the wild. Are you familiar with Scorigami? Jeff Sagarin (00:24:26): Who? I'd never heard of it obviously. Rob Collie (00:24:29): I think a Scorigami is a score in the NFL that's never happened. Jeff Sagarin (00:24:32): There was one like that about 10 years ago, 11-10, I believe. Pittsburgh was involved in the game or 12-11, something like that. Rob Collie (00:24:40): I think there was a Scorigami in last season. With scoring going up, the chances of Scorigami is increasing. There's just more variance at the higher end of the spectrum of numbers, right? Jeff Sagarin (00:24:50): I've always thought about this. In Canada, Canadian football, they have this extra rule that I think is kind of cool because it would probably make more scores happen. If a punter kicks the ball into the end zone, it can't roll there. Like if he kicks it on the fly into the end zone and the other team can't run it out, it's called a rouge and the kicking team gets one point for it. That's kind of cool. Because once you add the concept of scoring one point, you make a lot more scores more probable of happening. Rob Collie (00:25:21): Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. You can win 1-0. Thomas LaRock (00:25:25): So the end zone is also... It's 20 yards deep. So the field's longer, it's 110 yards. But the end zone's deeper and part of it is that it's too far to kick for a field goal. But you know what? If I can punt it into the end zone and if I get a cover team down there, we can get one point out. I'm in favor of it. I think that'd be great. Jeff Sagarin (00:25:43): I think you have to kick out on the fly into the end zone. It's not like if it rolls into it. Thomas LaRock (00:25:47): No, no, no. It's like a pop flop. Jeff Sagarin (00:25:50): Yeah. Okay. Rob Collie (00:25:50): If you punt it out of the end zone, is it also a point? Thomas LaRock (00:25:52): It's a touch back. No, touch back. Jeff Sagarin (00:25:54): That'd be too easy of a way to get a point. Rob Collie (00:25:57): You've had a 20 yard deep target to land in. In Canadian fantasy football, if there was such a thing, maybe there is, punters, you actually could have punters as a position because they can score points. That would be a really sad and un-fun way to play. Rob Collie (00:26:14): But so we're amateur sports analytics people here on the show. We're not professionals. We're probably not even very good at it. But that doesn't mean that we aren't fascinated by it. We're business analytics people here for sure. Business and sports, they might share some techniques, but it's just very, very, very different, the things that are valuable in the two spaces. I mean, they're sort of spiritually linked but they're not really tools or methods that provide value. Rob Collie (00:26:39): Not that you would give them. But we're not looking for any of your secrets here today. But you're not just writing for USA Today, there's a number of places where your skills are used these days, right? Jeff Sagarin (00:26:51): Well, not as much as that. But I want to make a favorable analogy for Wayne. In the world of sports analytics, whatever the phrases are, I consider myself to be maybe an experimental applied physicist. Wayne is an advanced theoretical physicist. I do the grunt work of collecting data and doing stuff with it. But Wayne has a large over-viewing of things. He's like a theoretical physicist. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:27:17): Jeff is too modest because he's experimented for years on the best parameters for his models. Rob Collie (00:27:27): It's again that 10-year, 20-year overnight success type of thing. You've just got to keep grinding at it. Do the two of you collaborate at all? Jeff Sagarin (00:27:35): Well, we did on two things, the Hoops computer game and Win Val. I forgot. How could I forget? It was actually my favorite thing that we did even though we've made no money doing the randomization using Game Theory of play calling for football. And we based it actually and it turned out that I got great numerical results that jive with empirical stuff that Virgil Carter had gotten and our economist, named Romer, had gotten and we had more detailed results than them. Jeff Sagarin (00:28:06): But in the areas that we intersected, we had the same as them. We used a game called Pro Quarterback and we modeled it. We had actually, a fellow, I wasn't a professor but a fellow professor of Wayne's, a great guy, just a great guy named Vic Cabot, who wrote a particular routine to insert the FORTRAN program that solved that particular linear programming problem that would constantly reoccur or else we couldn't do it. That was the favorite thing and we got to show it once to Sam White, who we really liked. And White said, "I like this guy. I may have played this particular game," we told him what we based it on, "when I was a teenager." Jeff Sagarin (00:28:46): He said, "I know exactly what you want to do." You don't make the same call in the same situation all the time. You have a random, but there's an optimal mix Game Theory, as you probably know for both offense and defense. White said, "The problem is this is my first year here. It was the summer of '83." And he said, "I don't really have the security." Said, "Imagine it's third and one, we're on our own 15 yard line. And it's third and one. And the random number generator says, 'Throw the bomb on this play with a 10% chance of calling up but it'll still be in the mix. And it happens to come up.'" Jeff Sagarin (00:29:23): He said, "It was my eight year here. I used to play these games myself. I know exactly." But then he patted his hip. He said, "It's mine on the line this first year." He said, "It's kind of nerve wracking to do that when you're a rookie coach somewhere, to call the bomb when it's third and one on your own 15. If it's incomplete, you'll be booed out of the stadium." Rob Collie (00:29:46): Yeah, I mean, it's similar to there's the general reluctance in coaches for so long to go for it on fourth and one. When the analytics were very, very, very clear that this was a plus expected value, +EV, move to go for it on fourth and one. But the thing is, you've got to consider the bigger picture. Right? The incentives, the coaches number one goal is actually don't get fired. Jeff Sagarin (00:30:14): You were right. That's what White was telling us. Rob Collie (00:30:14): Yeah. Winning a Super Bowl is a great thing to do. Because it helps you not get fired. It's actually weird. Like, if your goal is to win as many games as possible, yes, go for it on fourth and one. But if your goal is to not get fired, maybe. So it takes a bit more courage even to follow the numbers. And for good reason, because the incentives aren't really aligned the way that we think they are when you first glance at a situation. Jeff Sagarin (00:30:41): Well, there's a human factor that there's no way unless you're making a guess how to take it into account. It may be demoralizing to your defense if you go for it on fourth and one and you're on your own 15. I've seen the numbers, we used to do this. It's a good mathematical move to go for it. Because you could say, "Well, if you're forced to punt, the other team is going to start on the 50. So what's so good about that? But psychologically, your defense may be kind of pissed off and demoralized when they have to come out on the field and defend from their own 15 after you've not made it and the numbers don't take that into account. Rob Collie (00:31:19): Again, it's that judgment thing. Like the coach hung out to dry. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:31:22): Can I say a word about Vic Cabot, that Jeff mentioned? Jeff Sagarin (00:31:26): Yeah, He's great. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:31:27): Yeah. So Vic was the greatest guy any of us in the business school ever knew. He was a fantastic person. He died of throat cancer in 1994, actually 27 years ago this week or last week. Jeff Sagarin (00:31:43): Last week. It was right around Labor Day. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:31:46): Right. But I want to mention, basically, when he died, his daughter was working in the NYU housing office. After he died, she wrote a little book called The Princess Diaries. She's worth how many millions of dollars now? But he never got to see it. Jeff Sagarin (00:32:06): He had a son, a big kid named Matt Cabot, who played at Bloomington South High School. I got a nice story about Matthew. I believe the last time I know of him, he was a state trooper in the state of Colorado. I used to tell him when I was still young enough and Spry enough, we'd play a little pickup or something. I'd say, "Matthew, forget about points. The most important thing, a real man gets rebounds." Jeff Sagarin (00:32:32): They played in the semi state is when it was just one class. In '88, me and Wayne and a couple of Wayne's professor buddies, we all... Of course, Vic would have been there but we didn't go in the same car. It was me, Wayne and maybe [inaudible 00:32:48] and somebody else, Wayne? Jeff Sagarin (00:32:49): They played against Chandler Thompson's great team from Muncie Central. In the first three minutes, Chris Lawson, who was the star of the team went up for his patented turn around jumper from six feet away in the lane and Chandler Thompson spiked it like a volleyball and on the run of Muncie Central player took it with no one near him and laid it in and the game essentially ended but Matt Cabot had the game of his life. Jeff Sagarin (00:33:21): I think he may have led the game of anyone, the most rebounds in the game. I compliment him. He was proud of that. And he's played, he said many a pickup game with Chandler Thompson, he said the greatest jumper he's ever been on the court within his entire life. You guys look up because I don't know if you know who Chandler Thompson. Is he played at Ball State. Look up on YouTube his put back dunk against UNLV in the 90 tournaments, the year UNLV won it at all. Look up Chandler Thompson's put back dunk. Rob Collie (00:33:52): Yeah, I was just getting into basketball then, I think. Like in the Loyola Marymount days. Yeah, Jerry Tarkanian. Does college basketball have the same amount of personalities it used to like in the coaching figures. I kind of doubt that it does. Rob Collie (00:34:06): With Tark gone, and of course, Bob Knight, it'll be hard to replace personalities like that. I don't know. I don't really watch college basketball anymore, so I wouldn't really know. But I get invited into those pick'em pools for the tournament March Madness every year and I never had the stamina to fill them out. And they offer those sheets where they'll fill it out for you. But why would I do that? Jeff Sagarin (00:34:28): I've got to tell you a story involving Wayne and I. Rob Collie (00:34:31): Okay. Jeff Sagarin (00:34:31): In the 80 tournament, I had gotten a program running that would to simulate the tournament if you fed in the power ratings. It understood who'd play who and you simulate it a zillion times, come up with the odds. So going into the tournament, we had Purdue maybe the true odds against him should have been let's say, I'll make it up seven to one. Purdue and Iowa, they had Ronnie Lester, I remember. Jeff Sagarin (00:34:57): The true odds against them should have been about 7-1. The bookmakers were giving odds of 40-1. So Wayne and I looked at each other and said, "That seems like a big edge." In theory, well, odds are still against them. Let's bet $25 apiece on both Purdue and Iowa. The two of them made the final four. Jeff Sagarin (00:35:20): In Indianapolis, I'll put it this way, their consolation game gave us no consolation. Rob Collie (00:35:30): Man. Jeff Sagarin (00:35:31): And then one of the games, Joe Barry Carroll of Purdue, they're down by one they UCLA. I'm sure he was being contested. I don't mean he was all by himself. It's always easy for the fan who can't play to mock the player. I don't mean... He was being fiercely contested by UCLA. The net result was he missed with fierce contesting one foot layup that would have won the game for Purdue, that would have put them into the championship game and Iowa could have beaten Louisville, except their best player, Ronnie Lester had to leave the game because he had aggravated a bad knee injury that he just couldn't play well on. Jeff Sagarin (00:36:11): But as I said, no consolation, right Wayne? Dr. Wayne Winston (00:36:14): Right. Jeff Sagarin (00:36:15): That was the next to the last year they ever had a consolation game. The last one was in '81 between LSU and Virginia. Rob Collie (00:36:23): Was it the '81 tournament that you said that you liked Indiana to win it? Jeff Sagarin (00:36:28): Wait, I'm going to show you how you get punished for hubris. I learned my lesson. The next year in '82, I had gotten a lot of notoriety, good kind of notoriety for having them to win in '81. People thought, "Wow! This is like the Oracle." So now as the tournament's about to begin in '82, I started getting a lot of calls, which I never used to do like from the media, "Who do you got Jeff?" I said confidently, "Oregon State." I had them number one, I think they'd only lost one game the whole year and they had a guy named Charlie Sitting, a 6'8 guy who was there all American forward. Jeff Sagarin (00:37:06): He was the star and I was pretty confident and to be honest, probably obnoxious when I'd be talking to the press. So they make the regional final against Georgetown and it was being held out west. I'm sort of confidently waiting for the game to be played and I'm sure there'll be advancing to the final four. And they were playing against freshmen, Patrick Ewing. Jeff Sagarin (00:37:29): In the first 10 seconds of the game, maybe you can find the video, there was a lob pass into Ewing, his back was to the basket, he's like three feet from the basket without even looking, he dunks backwards over his head over Charlie Sitton. And you should see the expression on Charlie Sitton's face. I said, "Oh my god! This game is over." The final score was 68-43 in Georgetown's favor. It was a massacre. It taught me the lesson, never be cocky, at least in public because you get slapped down, you get slapped down when you do that. Rob Collie (00:38:05): I don't want to get into this yet again on this show. But you should call up Nate Silver and maybe talk to him a little bit about the same sort of thing. Makes very big public calls that haven't been necessarily so great lately. Just for everyone's benefit, because even though I'd live in the state of Indiana, I didn't grow up here. Let's just be clear. Who won the NCAA tournament in 1981? Jeff Sagarin (00:38:29): Indiana. Rob Collie (00:38:30): Okay. All right, so there you go. Right. Jeff Sagarin (00:38:33): But who didn't win it in 1982? Oregon State. Rob Collie (00:38:38): Yeah. Did you see The Hunt for Red October where Jack Ryan's character, there's a point where he guesses. He says, "Ramy, as always, goes to port in the bottom half of the hour with his crazy Ivan maneuvers and he turns out to be right." And that's how he ends up getting the captain of the American sub to trust him as Jack Ryan knew this Captain so well, even knew which direction he would turn in the crazy Ivan. But it turns out he was just bluffing. He knew he needed a break and it was 50/50. Rob Collie (00:39:08): So it's a good thing that they were talking to you in the Indiana year, originally. Not the Oregon State year. That wouldn't be a good first impression. If you had to have it go one way or the other in those two years, the order in which it happened was the right order. Jeff Sagarin (00:39:22): Yeah, nobody would have listened to me. They would have said, "You got lucky." They said, "You still were terrible in the Oregon State year." Rob Collie (00:39:28): But you just pick the 10th rated team and be right. The chances of that being just luck are pretty low. I like it. That's a good story. So the two of you have never collaborated like on the Mark Cuban stuff? On the Mavs or any of that? Jeff Sagarin (00:39:43): We've done three things together. The Hoops computer game, which we did from '86-'95. And then we did the Game Theory thing for football, but we never got a client. But we did get White to kind of follow it. There's an interesting anecdote, I won't I mentioned the guy who kind of screwed it up. But he assigned a particular grad assistant to fill and we needed a matrix filled in each week with a bunch of numbers with regarding various things like turnovers. Jeff Sagarin (00:40:13): If play A is called against defense B, what would happen type of thing? The grad assistant hated doing it. And one week, he gave us numbers such that the computer came back with when Indiana had the ball, it should quick kick on first down every time it got the ball. We figured it out what was going on, the guy had given Indiana a 15% chance of a turnover, no matter what play they called in any situation against any defense. Jeff Sagarin (00:40:44): So the computer correctly surmised it were better to punt the ball. This is like playing Russian roulette with the ball. Let's just kick it away. So we ended up losing the game in real life 10-0. White told us then when we next saw him, we used to see him on Monday or Tuesday mornings, real early in the day, like seven o'clock, but that's when you could catch him. And he kind of looked at us and said, "You know what? We couldn't have done any worse said had we kicked [inaudible 00:41:14]." Rob Collie (00:41:13): That's nice. Jeff Sagarin (00:41:14): And then we did Mark Cuban. That was the last thing. We did that with Cuban from basically 2000-2011 with a couple of random projects in the summer for him, but really on a day to day basis during a season from 2000-2011. Rob Collie (00:41:30): And during that era is when I met Wayne at Microsoft. That was very much an active, ongoing project when Wayne was there in Redmond a couple of times that we crossed paths. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:41:43): And we worked for the Knicks one year, and they won 54 games. Jeff Sagarin (00:41:47): Here with Glen Grunwald. So they won more games than they'd ever won in a whole bunch of years. And like three weeks before the season starts or so in mid September, the next fire, Glen Grunwald. Let's put it this way, it didn't bother us that the Knicks never made the playoffs again until this past season. Rob Collie (00:42:10): That's great. You were doing, was it lineup optimization for those teams? Jeff Sagarin (00:42:15): Wayne knows more about this than I do. Because I would create the raw data, well, I call it output, but it needed refinement. That was Wayne's department. So you do all the talking now, Wayne. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:42:26): Yeah. Jeff wrote an amazing FORTRAN program. So basically, Jeff rated teams and we figured out we could rate players based on how the score of the game moved during the game. We could evaluate lineups and figure out head to head how certain players did against each other. Now, every team does this stuff and ESPN has Real Plus-Minus and Nate Silver has Raptor. But we started this. Jeff Sagarin (00:42:58): I mean, everybody years ago knew about Plus-Minus. Well, intuitively, let's say you're a gym rat, you first come to a gym, you don't know anyone there and you start getting in the crowd of guys that show up every afternoon to play pickup. You start sensing, you don't even have to know their names. Hey, when that guy is on the court, no matter who his teammates are, they seem to win. Jeff Sagarin (00:43:20): Or when this guy's on the court, they always seem to lose. Intuitively since it matters, who's on the court with you and who your opponents are. Like to make an example for Rob, let's say you happen to be in a pickup game. You've snuck into Pauley Pavilion during the summer and you end up with like four NBA current playing professionals on your team and let's say an aging Michael Jordan now shows up. He ends up with four guys who are graduate students in philosophy because they have to exercise. You're going to have a better plus-minus than Michael Jordan. But when you take into account who your teammates were and who's his were, if you knew enough about the players, he'd have a better rating than you, new Michael Jordan would. Jeff Sagarin (00:44:08): But you'd have a better raw plus-minus than he would. You have to know who the people on the court were. That was Wayne's insight. Tell them how it all started, how you met ran into Mark Cuban, Wayne, when you were in Dallas? Dr. Wayne Winston (00:44:20): Well, Mark was in my class in 1981, statistics class and I guess the year 1999, we went to a Pacers Maverick game in Dallas. Jeff Sagarin (00:44:31): March of 2000. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:44:33): March of 2000, because our son really liked the Pacers. Mark saw me in the stands. He said, "I remember you from class and I remember you for being on Jeopardy." He had just bought the team. And he said, "If you can do anything to help the Mavericks, let me know." And then I was swimming in the pool one day and I said, "If Jeff rates teams, we should rate players." And so we worked on this and Jeff wrote this amazing FORTRAN program, which I'm sure he could not rewrite today. Jeff Sagarin (00:45:04): Oh, God. Well, I was motivated then. Willingness to work hard for many hours at a time, for days at a time to get something to work when you could use the money that would result from it. I don't have that in me anymore. I'm amazed when I look at the source code. I say, "Man, I couldn't do that now." I like to think I could. Necessity is the mother of invention. Rob Collie (00:45:28): I've many, many, many times said and this is still true to this day, like a previous version of me that made something amazing like built a model or something like that, I look back and go, "Whoo, I was really smart back then." Well, at the same time I know I'm improving. I know that I'm more capable today than I was a year ago. Even just accrued wisdom makes a big difference. When you really get lasered in on something and are very, very focused on it, you're suddenly able to execute at just a higher level than what you're typically used to. Jeff Sagarin (00:46:01): As time went on, we realized what Cuban wanted and other teams like the next would want. Nobody really wanted to wade through the monster set of files that the FORTRAN would create. I call that the raw output that nobody wanted to read, but it was needed. Wayne wrote these amazing routines in Excel that became understandable and usable by the clients. Jeff Sagarin (00:46:26): The way Wayne wrote the Excel, they could basically say, "Tell us what happens when these three guys are in the lineup, but these two guys are not in the lineup." It was amazing the stuff that he wrote. Wayne doesn't give himself the credit that otherwise after a while, nobody would have wanted what we were doing because what I did was this sort of monstrous and to some extent boring. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:46:48): This is what Rob's company does basically. They try and distill data into understandable form that basically helps the company make decisions. Rob Collie (00:46:58): It is a heck of a discipline, right? Because if you have the technical and sort of mental skills to execute on something that's that complex, and it starts down in the weeds and just raw inputs, it's actually really, really, really easy to hand it off in a form that isn't yet quite actionable for the intended audience. It's really fascinating to you, the person that created it. Rob Collie (00:47:23): It's not digestible or actionable yet for the consumer crowd, whoever the target consumer is. I've been there. I've handed off a lot of things back in the day and said, "The professional equivalent of..." And it turned out to not be... It turned out to be, "Go back and actually make it useful, Rob." So I'm familiar with that. For sure. I think I've gotten better at that over the years. As a journey, you're never really complete with. Something I wanted to throw in here before I forget, which is, Jeff, you have an amazing command of certain dates. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:47:56): Oh, yeah. Jeff Sagarin (00:47:57): Give me some date that you know the answer about what day of the week it was, and I'll tell you, but I'll tell you how I did it. Rob Collie (00:48:04): Okay, how about June 6, 1974? Jeff Sagarin (00:48:08): That'd be a Thursday. Rob Collie (00:48:10): Holy cow. Okay. How do you do that? Jeff Sagarin (00:48:11): June 11th of 1974 would be a Tuesday, so five days earlier would be a Thursday. Rob Collie (00:48:19): How do you know June 11? Jeff Sagarin (00:48:19): I just do. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:48:23): It's his birthday. Rob Collie (00:48:24): No, it's not. He wasn't born in '74. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:48:27): No, but June 11th. Jeff Sagarin (00:48:29): I happen to know that June 11 was a Tuesday in 1974, that's all. Rob Collie (00:48:34): I'm still sitting here waiting what passes for an explanation. Is one coming? Jeff Sagarin (00:48:39): I'll tell you another way I could have done it, but I didn't. In 1963, John Kennedy gave his famous speech in Berlin, Ich bin ein Berliner, on Wednesday, June 26th. That means that three weeks earlier was June 5, the Wednesday. So Thursday would have been June 6th. You're going to say, "Well, why is that relevant?" Well, 1963 is congruent to 1974 days of the week was. Rob Collie (00:49:07): Okay. This is really, really impressive. Jeff, you seem so normal up until now. Thomas LaRock (00:49:16): You want throw him off? Just ask for any date before 1759? Jeff Sagarin (00:49:20): No, I can do that. It'll take me a little longer though. Thomas LaRock (00:49:22): Because once they switch from Gregorian- Jeff Sagarin (00:49:25): No, well, I'll give it a Gregorian style, all right. I'm assuming that it's a Gregorian date. The calendar totally, totally repeats every possible cycle every 400 years. For example, if you happen to say, "What was September 10, of 1621?" I would quickly say, "It's a Friday." Because 1621 is exactly the same as 2021 says. Rob Collie (00:49:52): Does this translate into other domains as well? Do you have sort of other things that you can sort of get this quick, intuitive mastery over or is it very, very specific to this date arithmetic? Jeff Sagarin (00:50:02): Probably specific. In other words, I think Wayne's a bit quicker than me. I'm certain does mental arithmetic stuff, but to put everybody in their place, I don't think you ever met him, Wayne. Remember the soccer player, John Swan? Dr. Wayne Winston (00:50:14): Yeah. Jeff Sagarin (00:50:15): He had a friend from high school, they went to Brownsburg High School. I forgot the kid's name. He was like a regular student at IU. He was not a well scholar, but he was a smart kid. I'd say he was slightly faster than me at most mental arithmetic things. So you should never get cocky and think that other people, "Oh, they don't have the pedigree." Some people are really good at stuff you don't expect them to be good at, really good. This kid was really good. Rob Collie (00:50:45): As humans, we need to hyper simplify things in order to have a mental model we can use to navigate a very, very complicated world. That's a bit of a strength. But it's also a weakness in many ways. We tend to try to reduce intelligence down to this single linear number line, when it's really like a vast multi dimensional coordinate space. There are so many dimensions of intelligence. Rob Collie (00:51:11): I grew up with the trope in my head that athletes weren't very bright. Until the first time that I had to try to run a pick and roll versus pick and pop. I discovered that my brain has a clock speed that's too slow to run the pick and roll versus pick and pop. It's not that I'm not smart enough to know if this, than that. I can't process it fast enough to react. You look at like an NFL receiver or an NFL linebacker or whatever, has to process on every single snap. Rob Collie (00:51:45): It's amazing how much information they have the processor. Set aside the physical skill that they have, which I also don't have and never did. On top of that, I don't have the brain at all to do these sorts of things. It's crazy. Jeff Sagarin (00:52:00): With the first few years, I was in Bloomington from, let's say, '77 to '81, I needed the money, so I tutored for the athletic department. They tutored math. And I remember once I was given an assignment, it was a defensive end, real nice kid. He was having trouble with the kind of math we would find really easy. But you could tell he had a mental block. These guys had had bad experiences and they just, "I can't do this. I can't do this." Jeff Sagarin (00:52:25): I asked this defensive end, "Tell me what happens when the ball snap, what do you have to do?" I said, "In real time, you're being physically pulverized, the other guy's putting a forearm or more right into your face. And your brain has to be checking about five different things going on in the backfield, other linemen." I said, "What you're doing with somebody else trying to hurt you physically is much more intellectually difficult, at least to my mind than this problem in the book in front of you and the book is not punching you in the face." Jeff Sagarin (00:52:57): He relaxed and he can do the problems in the room. I'd make sure. I picked not a problem that I had solved. I'd give him another one that I hadn't solved and he could do it. I realized, my God, what these guys they're doing takes actually very quick reacting brainpower and my own personal experience in elementary school, let's say in sixth grade after school, we'd be playing street football, just touch football. When I'd be quarterback, I'd start running towards the line of scrimmage. Jeff Sagarin (00:53:26): If the other team came after me, they'd leave a receiver wide open. I said, "This is easy." So I throw for touchdown. Well, in seventh grade, we go to junior high. We have squads in gym class, and on a particular day, I got to be quarterback. Now, instead of guys sort of leisurely counting one Mississippi, two Mississippi, they are pouring in. It's not that you're going to get hurt, but you're going to get tagged and the play would be over. It says touch football, and I'd be frantically looking for receivers to get open. Let's just say it was not a good experience. I realized there's a lot more to be in quarterback than playing in the street. It's so simple. Jeff Sagarin (00:54:08): They come after you and they leave the receivers wide open. That's what evidently sets apart. Let's say the Tom Brady's from the guys who don't even make it after one year in the NFL. If you gave them a contest throwing the ball, seeing who could throw it through a tire at 50 yards, maybe the young kid is better than Tom Brady but his brain can't process what's happening on the field fast enough. Thomas LaRock (00:54:32): As someone who likes to you know, test things thoroughly, that student of yours who was having trouble on the test, you said the book wasn't hitting him physically. Did you try possibly? Jeff Sagarin (00:54:45): I should have shoved it in his face. Thomas LaRock (00:54:49): Physically, just [crosstalk 00:54:50]. Rob Collie (00:54:50): Just throw things at him. Yeah. Thomas LaRock (00:54:52): Throw an eraser, a piece of chalk. Just something. Jeff Sagarin (00:54:56): I'll tell you now, I don't want to name him. He's a real nice guy. I'll tell you a funny anecdote about him. I had hurt my knuckle in a pickup basketball game. I had a cast on it and I was talking to my friend. And he had just missed making a pro football team the previous summer and he was on the last cut. He'd made it to the final four guys. Jeff Sagarin (00:55:18): He was trying to become a linebacker I think. They told him, "You're just not mean enough." That was in my mind. I thought, "Well, I don't know about that." He said, "Yeah, I had the same kind of fractured knuckle you got." I said, "How'd you get it?" "Pick up [inaudible 00:55:32]. Punching a guy in the face." But he wasn't mean enough for the NFL. And I heard a story from a friend of mine who I witnessed it, this guy was at one point working security at a local holiday inn that would have these dances. Jeff Sagarin (00:55:47): There was some guy who was like from the Hells Angels who was causing trouble. He's a big guy, 6'5, 300 whatever. And he actually got into an argument with my friend who was the security guy. Angel guy throws a punch at this guy who's not mean enough for the NFL. With one punch the Jeff Sagarin tutoree knocked the Hell's Angels guy flat unconscious. He was a comatose on the floor. But he wasn't mean enough for the NFL. Rob Collie (00:56:17): Tom if I told my plus minus story about my 1992 dream team on this show, I think maybe I have. I don't remember. Thomas LaRock (00:56:24): You might have but this seems like a perfect episode for that. Rob Collie (00:56:27): I think Jeff and Wayne, if I have told it before, it was probably with Wayne. Dr. Wayne Winston (00:56:31): I don't remember. Rob Collie (00:56:32): Perfect. It'll be new to everyone that matters. Tom remembers. So, in 1992, the Orlando Magic were a recent expansion team in the NBA. Sometime in that summer, the same summer where the 1992 Dream Team Olympic team went and dominated, there was a friend of our family who ran a like a luxury automotive accessories store downtown and he basically hit the jackpot. He'd been there forever. There was like right next to like the magic practice facility. Rob Collie (00:57:09): And so all the magic players started frequenting his shop. That was where they tricked out all their cars and added all the... So his business was just booming as a result of magic coming to town. I don't know this guy ever had ever been necessarily terribly athletic at any point in his life. He had this bright idea to assemble a YMCA team that would play in the local YMCA league in Orlando, the city league. Rob Collie (00:57:35): He had secured the commitment of multiple magic players to be on our team as well as like Jack Givens, who was the radio commentator for The Magic and had been a longtime NBA star with his loaded team. And then it was like, this guy, we'll call this guy Bill. It's not his real name. So it was Bill and the NBA players and me and my dad, a couple of younger guys that actually I didn't know, but were pretty good but they weren't even like college level players. Rob Collie (00:58:07): And so we signed up for the A league, the most competitive league that Orlando had to offer. And then none of the NBA players ever showed up. I said never, but they did show up one time. But we were getting blown out. Some of the people who were playing against us were clearly ex college players. We couldn't even get the ball across half court. Jeff Sagarin (00:58:33): Wayne, does this sound familiar to you? Dr. Wayne Winston (00:58:35): Yes, tell this story. Jeff Sagarin (00:58:38): Wayne, when he was a grad student at Yale, and I'm living in the White Irish neighborhood called Dorchester in Boston, I was young and spry. At that time, I would think I could play. Wayne as a grad student at Yale had entered a team with a really intimidating name of administration science in the New Haven City League, which was played I believe at Hill House high school at night. So Wayne said, "Hey Jeff, why don't you take a Greyhound bus down. We're going to play against this team called the New Haven All Stars. It ought to be interesting." Rob Collie (00:59:14): Wayne's voice in that story sound a little bit like the guy at USA Today for a moment. It was the same voice, the cigar chomping. Anyway, continue. Jeff Sagarin (00:59:25): They edged this out 75-31. I thought I was lined up against the guy... I thought it was Paul Silas who was may be sort of having a bus man's holiday playing for the New Haven all-stars. So a couple weeks later, Paul Silas was my favorite player on the Celtics. He could rebound, that's all I could do. I was pitiful at anything else. But I worked at that and I was pretty strong and I worked at jumping, etc. Jeff Sagarin (00:59:53): So a few weeks later, Wayne calls me up and says, "Hey Jeff, we're playing the New Haven All-Stars again. Why don't you come down again and we'll get revenge against them this time?" Let's just say it didn't work out that way. And I remember one time I had Paul Silas completely boxed out. It was perfect textbook and I could jump. If my hands were maybe at rim level and I could see a pair of pants a foot over mine from behind, he didn't tell me and he got the rebound and I'm at rim level. Jeff Sagarin (01:00:24): We were edged out by a score so monstrous, I won't repeat it here. I'm not a guard at all. But I ended up with the ball... They full court pressed the whole game. Rob Collie (01:00:34): Of course, once they figure out- Jeff Sagarin (01:00:36): That we can't play and I'm not even a guard. It was ludicrous. My four teammates left me in terror. They just said, "We're going down court." So I'm all alone, they have four guys on me and my computer like my thought, "Well, they've got four guys on me. That must mean my four teammates are being guarded by one guy down court. This should be easy." I look, I look. They didn't steal the ball out of my hands or nothing. I'm still holding on to it. They're pecking away but they didn't foul me. I give them credit for that. I was like, "Where the hell are my teammates?" Jeff Sagarin (01:01:08): They were in terror hiding in single file behind the one guy and I basically... I don't care if you bleeping or not, I said, "Fuck it." And I just threw the ball. Good two overhand pass, long pass. I had my four teammates down there and they had one guy and you can guess who got the ball. After the game I asked them, I said, "You guys seem fairly good. Are you anybody?" The guy said, "Yeah, we're the former Fairfield varsity we were in the NIT about two years ago." Jeff Sagarin (01:01:39): I looked it up once. Fairfield did make the NIT, I think in '72. And this took place in like February of '74. It taught me a lesson because I looked up what my computer rating for Fairfield would have been compared that to, let's say, UCLA and NC State and figured at a minimum, we'd be at least a 100-200 point underdog against them in a real game, but it would have been worse because we would never get the ball pass mid-court. Rob Collie (01:02:10): Yeah, I mean, those games that I'm talking about in that YMCA League, I mean, the scores were far worse. We were losing like 130-11. Jeff Sagarin (01:02:19): Hey, good that's worse than New Haven all-stars beat us but not quite that bad. Rob Collie (01:02:24): I remember one time actually managing to get the ball across half court and pulling up for a three-point shot off of the break. And then having the guy that had assembled the team, take me aside at the next time out and tell me that I needed to pass that. I'm just like, "No. You got us into this embarrassment. If I get to the point where like, there's actually a shot we can take like a shot, we could take a shot. I'm not going to dump it off to you." Thomas LaRock (01:02:57): Not just a shot, but the shot of gold. Rob Collie (01:03:00): The one time we did get those guys to show up, we were still kind of losing because those guys didn't want to get hurt. It didn't make any sense for them to be there. There was no upside for them to be in this game. I'm sure that they just sort of been guilted into showing up. But then this Christian Laettner lookalike on the other team. He was as big as Laettner. Rob Collie (01:03:25): This is the kind of teams we were playing against. There was a long rebound and that Laettner lookalike got that long rebound and basically launched from the free throw line and dunked over Terry Catledge, the power forward for the Magic at the time. And at that moment, Terry Catledge scored the next 45 points in the game himself. That was all it was. Rob Collie (01:03:50): He'd just be standing there waiting for me to inbound the ball to him, he would take it coast to coast and score. He'd backpedal on defense and he would somehow steal the ball and he'd go down and score again. He just sent a message. And if that guy hadn't dunked over Catledge, we would have never seen what Catledge was capable of. So remember, this is a team th

Dave Severns is the Director of Player Development with the LA Clippers. Prior to joining the Clippers Coach Severns spent two years on Del Negro's staff with the Chicago Bulls as Assistant Coach for Player Development. Severns spent 13 years in player development with Nike, working with college players at the All-American Camp, All-Asia Camp, Jordan Flight School, Nike Skills Academies, as well as an assistant at the college level spending time coaching under Jerry Tarkanian at Fresno State. Prior to his time at the collegiate level, Severns spent 12 years as a high school coach in California. He has a Bachelor's and a Master's Degree from California State University-Chico. The Hoosier Gym Coaches Clinic | August 27 - 28 | Knightstown, IN Speakers: Mark Cascio | Rob Jones | Tyler Coston | Jamy Bechler | Phil Bechner | Joe Stasyszyn | Travis Daugherty Take advantage of Early Bird Discounts - Register at https://www.unitedbasketballclinics.com/hoosier This episode is sponsored by the Dr. Dish Basketball. Mention "United Basketball & Leadership Podcast" and receive $300 off on the Dr. Dish Rebel, All-Star, and CT models. Connect with Dr. Dish on Twitter or Instagram @drdishbball

Rafer "Skip to My Lou” Alston joins Will Gates and Arthur Agee on the premiere episode of Hoop Dreams The Podcast. The guys chop it up with the streetball and NBA legend about coming up in Queens, New York, some of his high school alumni (a couple names might ring a bell), why LL Cool J is his favourite rapper and how he earned his nickname and how he kept it. They dive deep into the business of AND 1 and the birth of the AND 1 mix tape tour and how he ended up on the cover of SLAM. Rafer chronicles his journey from New York to Fresno to the NBA Finals with the Orlando Magic and talks about his college days playing for legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian. Sit back and listen to the man who took the streetball game to main street and influenced a generation of point gods. 

We're extremely excited to have Fox Sports Men's College Basketball Analyst, CBS Sports (during March Madness), and former Men's basketball head coach of UCLA and St John's Steve Lavin join us today in the first of a two-part episode. We kick off the episode talking about playing basketball in high school and how before the era of YouTube, cell phone cameras, and a million sports networks how you would get exposure with college scouts. Next, we talk about his transition into the coaching world and how he wrote letters to legendary coaches like Bob Knight, Gene Keady, and Jerry Tarkanian for advice on how to break into the ranks of coaching. Steve eventually was hired as an assistant at D.J.'s alma mater, Purdue University under the legendary coach Gene Keady. While at Purdue, Steve talks about coaching a young Matt Painter, who is currently having a great coaching career at Purdue, and meeting the legendary Coach John Wooden (also an alumna of Purdue University). Ultimately his relationship with Coach Wooden resulted in him taking an Assistant Coach position at UCLA under former coach Jim Herrick. We finish out part one talking about the 1995 National Championship season and Tyus Edney's famous buzzer-beater against Mizzou in 1995 and a little-known story about Steve's celebration after the buzzer. Check back again next week for Part 2 as we talk about how a recruiting scandal led to him becoming the head coach at UCLA, along with Coach Wooden's support, moving to television, and being diagnosed with prostate cancer while coaching at St John's University. Be sure to follow Steve on social media and check him out on Fox Sports during the college basketball season! Twitter Instagram Check out the video of this interview and don't forget to hit the subscribe button over at our YouTube channel! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/stadiumscenetv/message

Chris's love of basketball was forced on him in his childhood.  It was a very competitive household.  His brother was s very successful basketball star in high school, and Chris found himself following in his footsteps.  His father was an alcoholic, and Chris feels he inherited this troublesome trait. Chris Herren had a storied career in basketball.  He loved the culture of basketball & performing, but he didn't truly see this as a passion in his life. In his senior year, Herren was named the Boston Globe and Gatorade Player of the Year. He also was named to the McDonald's All-America Team.  He went to Boston College in 1994, where he failed multiple drug tests for marijuana & cocaine, which led to him being kicked out of college and the team.  He then transferred to Fresno State under coach Jerry Tarkanian.  Chris says that the first four years at Fresno State were his career-defining years.  He was at his best during that time but eventually fell back into his old habits. When Herren made it to the NBA, he eventually made his way back to Boston to play for the Celtics.  This is when his drug use hit its peak.  He also started to increase his painkiller use with pills like OxyContin, Vicodin & Percocet.  During playing abroad in Italy, he tried heroin for the first time.  He would play for NBA teams abroad in places like Iran, where the punishment for heroin usage and sale is death, and yet he would still take that risk to get high. He says looking back now that he was actually in worse shape during the season because the money he was getting paid at the time all went to drug use.   It hit a new low for Chris in 2007, he was charged with possession of heroin in the parking lot of a Dunkin' Donuts.  A year later, Herren overdosed on heroin and crashed into a utility pole. According to paramedics, he was allegedly dead for thirty seconds.  A lot of people in Chris' life at this point tried to get Chris some help, including fellow NBA player & Golden State Warrior Chris Mullen & his family, who got Chris into his first treatment center. When you go to Chris Herren's house, you won't see and memorabilia from his time in the NBA.  He is only proud of his time with Fresno State because he feels that this was the most passionate & level-headed he was playing basketball, in his entire career.  He says here that this was the only time of his career that he's proud of to this day.  After his recovery, he started a program called Hoop Dreams, where he has, so far, taught over 1000 kids basketball. After founding Hoop Dreams, he wrote a book in 2011 called ‘Basketball Junkie: A Memoir'.  In 2012, It was turned into a documentary called “Unguarded” and nominated for 2 Emmy Awards.  Chris Herren now devotes his time to the Herren Project.  He opened Herren Wellness, with one location in Virginia, one in Massachusetts, that specializes in health and wellness, and recovery for addicts.  They have placed over 5,000 people into treatment, 27 family online support groups a week.  The program requires honesty, transparentness, and the ability to not break from the routine.  A very inclusive approach that includes the whole dynamic of family & friends of the person in recovery. He describes the involvement of their therapists, life coaches, and other medical staff when they are accepting a new addict for treatment.  According to Chris, they are very involved in the recovery process, more so than similar programs.  This is his new passion and new drive in his life & hopes to reach & help as many people as possible.  This is Chris Herren in his own words, on Knockin' Doorz Down. For Carlos Vieira's autobiography Knockin' Doorz Down https://www.kddmediacompany.com/ For 51FIFTY use the discount code KDD20 for 20% off! https://51fiftyltm.com/ https://www.facebook.com/51FIFTYLTM https://www.instagram.com/51fiftyltm/ https://twitter.com/51fiftyltm For PodCorn go to https://podcorn.com/podcasters/ and tell them you hear about them on the Knockin' Doorz Down podcast. For more on the Knockin' Doorz Down podcast and to follow us on social media https://www.kddmediacompany.com/podcast https://www.instagram.com/knockindoorzdown/ https://www.facebook.com/knockingdoorsdown/ https://twitter.com/kddmediacompany https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUSJ5ooBFqso8lfFiiIM-5g/ For more information on the Carlos Vieira Foundation and the Race 2B Drug-Free, Race to End the Stigma, and Race For Autism programs visit: https://www.carlosvieirafoundation.org/ https://www.facebook.com/CVFoundation/ https://www.instagram.com/carlosvieirafoundation/ For more on Chris Herren https://herrentalks.com/ https://www.facebook.com/herrentalks/ https://www.instagram.com/herrentalks/ https://twitter.com/herrentalks    

Subscribe NOW to The Help Show:https://youtu.be/s0TvJ32VsGg​ Get MORE of The Help Show: ► LISTEN:https://thehelpshow.podbean.com/​ ► LISTEN:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...​ ► CATCH UP on What You Missed: https://youtu.be/s0TvJ32VsGg​ ► FOLLOW us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thehelpshow/​ ► FOLLOW us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thehelpshow​ ► LIKE us on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/thehelpshowc...​ Executive Producer: NJI Holdings Associate Producer: Amy King - @thechiefeternaloptimist Producer: NiEtta Reynolds - @niettareynolds Editor: Ebony Hamilton and Julia Smith Video Shooter/Editor: Dr. James Johnson @tailoredpenguin   NiEtta will host part 2 of our podcast "Major Problems Minor Recognition: Minorities and Mental Health in Sports" to help us understand the effects of racism on minority athletes' mental health across all levels of sports. Her goal is to create opportunities for those in need of access to mental health resources and help them overcome challenges to lead healthy, productive lives. Our co-host, Dr. Kenneth Rogers, has over 20 years of experience as a board-certified psychiatrist addressing PTSD and other trauma. His clinical research demonstrates the positive outcomes of intervention through community-based mental health programs. He will help lead our discussion regarding minority athletes' mental health, the significance of diversity and inclusion in sports, and effective coping strategies. This month, our guest speaker is the head coach of Florida Memorial University Men's Basketball Team Ansar Al-Ameen. Al-Ameen began cultivating his coaching career with the Oakland Soldier AAU program powerhouse in Northern California. Al-Ameen has been highly successful at both the AAU, collegiate, and NBA levels. In 1997, Al-Ameen joined the Fresno State University basketball staff under renowned head coach Jerry Tarkanian. He's held successful collegiate coaching positions with TSU, PVAMU, and the University of Missouri. In addition to his coaching experience, Al- Ameen has been a trainer for many NBA players. Such as Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, Jamal Crawford, and Paul Pierce, to name a few Al-Ameen has encountered basketball legends, All-Stars, and Hall of Fame coaches. He's known in the NBA industry as one of the foremost basketball trainers in America. It's safe to say he has left a leading legacy on the court and in the community.

Subscribe NOW to The Help Show:https://youtu.be/s0TvJ32VsGg​ Get MORE of The Help Show: ► LISTEN:https://thehelpshow.podbean.com/​ ► LISTEN:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...​ ► CATCH UP on What You Missed: https://youtu.be/s0TvJ32VsGg​ ► FOLLOW us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thehelpshow/​ ► FOLLOW us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thehelpshow​ ► LIKE us on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/thehelpshowc...​ Executive Producer: NJI Holdings Associate Producer: Amy King - @thechiefeternaloptimist Producer: NiEtta Reynolds - @niettareynolds Editor: Ebony Hamilton and Julia Smith Video Shooter/Editor: Dr. James Johnson @tailoredpenguin   NiEtta will host part 1 of our podcast "Major Problems Minor Recognition: Minorities and Mental Health in Sports" to help us understand the effects of racism on minority athletes' mental health across all levels of sports. Her goal is to create opportunities for those in need of access to mental health resources and help them overcome challenges to lead healthy, productive lives. Our co-host, Dr. Kenneth Rogers, has over 20 years of experience as a board-certified psychiatrist addressing PTSD and other trauma. His clinical research demonstrates the positive outcomes of intervention through community-based mental health programs. He will help lead our discussion regarding minority athletes' mental health, the significance of diversity and inclusion in sports, and effective coping strategies. This month, our guest speaker is the head coach of Florida Memorial University Men's Basketball Team Ansar Al-Ameen. Al-Ameen began cultivating his coaching career with the Oakland Soldier AAU program powerhouse in Northern California. Al-Ameen has been highly successful at both the AAU, collegiate, and NBA levels. In 1997, Al-Ameen joined the Fresno State University basketball staff under renowned head coach Jerry Tarkanian. He's held successful collegiate coaching positions with TSU, PVAMU, and the University of Missouri. In addition to his coaching experience, Al- Ameen has been a trainer for many NBA players. Such as Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, Jamal Crawford, and Paul Pierce, to name a few Al-Ameen has encountered basketball legends, All-Stars, and Hall of Fame coaches. He's known in the NBA industry as one of the foremost basketball trainers in America. It's safe to say he has left a leading legacy on the court and in the community.

Welcome to the 19Nine podcast we are continuing our journey in Hardwood Heaven with our guest today Kris Stone,  Kris is - Sr. Director Global Sports Marketing - Under Armour , and works Directly with Steph Curry on all things Curry Brand, was also a grad assistant to Coach Tarkanian at Fresno State and going way back played alongside Jason Kidd in high school. +Tell us your basketball origin story.  -How did you fall in love with the game?-What was it like to play in the same HS backcourt as Jason Kidd?-You went to Fresno State to play golf, was basketball or golf your favorite sport and which one were you better at?+Fresno State+Grad Assistant Under Tark-Give us a behind the scenes look at what kind of coach Jerry Tarkanian was.-in an ESPN article it had you listed as towel preparer what did Tark say about the towes-Those Fresno State teams had some big talent and bigger personalities.  What sticks out to you the most about the Tark Fresno teams?-Do you think college basketball will ever have the legendary personalities it used to have with guys like Tark, Coach Knight, Jimmy V, Rollie Massimino, John Thompson, Al McQuire, etc or have those days come and gone?+Elite 24-Explain how you came up with the concept of the Elite 24 showcase and how it all came to be.-Any chance of a revamp and taking it back to The Rucker?+Under Armour-How did you get connected with Under Armour?-As Senior Director of Global Sports Marketing at Under Armour and the Curry Brand what does your job entail?  Or what is your favorite part of what you get to do on a daily basis?-What kind of pressure comes with being a part of a team that is responsible for marketing a once in a generation talent like Steph Curry?-Is there anything new or exciting coming up with Under Armour and/or the Curry Brand that you can share?+Hardwood Heaven-The gates to Hardwood Heaven open, Dr. Naismith meets you and escorts you in and says, “Here is everything related to basketball you've ever dreamed of.  I want you to setup a game/showcase/contest.”  What are you throwing together?  Is it Vince vs Mke in a Dunk Contest, Steph vs Bird in 3pt contest, is it the Fab 5 vs Tark's 90 or 91 team?

It's time for another timeless journey of Excellence, when our guests talk exclusively and candidly about their journeys of Excellence like never before. This is not a glorification of excellence, but a deep examination of the all-encompassing path of Excellence. Hosted by Brian Hurlburt.Our guest this week is Greg Anthony, an NCAA national champion (UNLV), 11-year NBA veteran, current NBA announcer and business person.CLAIM YOUR FREE 10 LIFE & BUSINESS LESSONS FROM SEASON 1 GUESTS E-BOOK By Host Brian Hurlburt NOW.Click and enter email - NO ObligationGreg's Takeaways"Excellence is obviously a powerful word. I think Excellence is the ability to have a high level of consistency. As human beings, we have faults and flaws, and we're not perfect, but Excellence  is when you approach the challenge of trying to be perfect and you create a level of consistency." "I think we always want to focus on Excellence being relative to your circumstance""Jerry Tarkanian instilled confidence in me""Pat Riley instilled confidence in the team""It's really important to set markers that you want to aspire to, because that creates an environment where you can go and pursue (Excellence) without fear of failure or fault, and not be worried about being judged.""I think you have to find something you genuinely care about.  You want to find something you're passionate about and that passion will create the journey for you. If you truly love something enough, that that should bring about a certain level of focus and discipline that you have to have to be good at anything."  Greg's StoryGreg's path of Excellence has been winding, from growing up without his father's influence, to being under-recruited out of high school, to  playing through a broken jaw during the 1990 UNLV national championship season, to other obstacles hurdled, but through it all, his perseverance has never been in short supply.The city of Las Vegas and the 1990 UNLV team bonded in a special way and the foundation of it all were teammates that played for, and trusted, each other. under legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian. In addition to an 11-year NBA career including on some legendary New York Knicks teams playing for another legendary coach, Pat Riley, Greg has also been my friend since third grade, when we played on the same basketball team for three years. These days, Anthony is a respected NBA television announcer and also president of Altitude International, a company that is bringing a new and innovative Excellence to sports training. He's also the father of four, including NBA rookie, Cole, of the Orlando Magic, and daughter, Ella, a top-ranked high school player.We invite you take another journey of Excellence with us. Please stay tuned and thanks for listening.

“Boy, I’m glad it’s over. I’m glad we don’t have practice this week or next week.” I’ve never seen a coach so openly defeated after a loss. There’s no stoicism here, no talk about being proud of his players, no looking forward to next year. There’s no energy left for that. Here is the great Jerry Tarkanian, a coach I’m used to seeing emanate such intensity that he has to bite on a towel during games, and boy, he’s just glad it’s over.It’s one of the final scenes from Between The Madness, the 1998 documentary following the Fresno State men’s basketball team over the entirety of their disastrous season that year. A baby faced Andy Katz is standing with Tarkanian, looking in this moment more like a friend lending an ear than a sports reporter for the Fresno Bee. The two are in the bowels of Madison Square Garden after Tarkanian’s team lost a heartbreaker in the NIT. It feels like a private moment between the two, but there’s an unseen third party holding the camera, peering at Tark’s exhausted looking face from around Katz’s shoulder. Whoever holds that camera spent the better part of their year watching from close distance as the team broke apart in headline grabbing fashion. As I watch this scene I wonder if that person is glad it’s over, too.Fresno State entered that season with a loaded roster predicted to make the Elite 8 by Sports Illustrated. Tarkanian assembled an unprecedented amount of talent for a Western Athletic Conference team with four players that would go on to play in the NBA, and more that had the potential to. Despite their talent the team never found consistency due to player suspensions for violations as trivial as smoking weed, as serious as domestic assault, and as unbelievable as threatening with a samurai sword. So much s**t hit the fan in Fresno that Mike Wallace brought his 60 Minutes crew to campus to file an expose on the program. I have to link to Wallace’s GOTCHYA segment on the program here, not because it’s good, but because it’s a chance to hear Mike Wallace muster up all his 60 Minutes gravitas to say the phrase “White (blanking) honkey b***h.”Between The Madness first aired on Fox Sports One on Thanksgiving, 1998. The film’s producers agreed not to show NCAA violations (Fresno State would later vacate wins for the following season and the two after that), but otherwise had creative control and unprecedented access to the team for the duration of their season. The resulting raw behind the scenes feel was jarring to me as a modern viewer accustomed to careful brand curation that has a firm grasp on modern sports media. Before watching this film I didn’t realize how thoroughly conditioned my expectations have become by our era of Players’ Tribune, sportswriters guaranteeing brand-friendly coverage in exchange for access, broadcasters employed by the team, and player produced documentaries.There are some similarities to The Last Dance, the docuseries that drew millions of viewers when it aired on ESPN earlier this year and now lives as a binge friendly hit on Netflix. Both make use of beyond the norm access to tell the inside story of a season, and incidentally both had cameras rolling in the same time of the same year. The differences are more interesting. While Dance uses interviews taking place in our time to look back, in Madness the viewer is trapped in the moment with no faces from the future guaranteeing a happy ending. Dance, being a product of our time, also required sign-off from it’s billionaire star subject so predictably avoids venturing far from corporate interests. Dance may make you feel like you’re finally getting the real story, but ultimately it’s the same story you’ve gotten all along, the tried and true one that has been told in two minute commercials for decades. The crew behind Madness had license to tell whatever story they felt was most worth telling, and the result feels a lot more human and interesting. While Jordan and Phil were masterminding their final triumphant season in Chicago, in Fresno there was a group of young players caught in bad situations made worse by draconian NCAA policy, while the national media shook their collective finger at them for having it too good for too long. If The Last Dance shows us the system working perfectly to reward talent and effort, Between The Madness suggests that’s more an exception than rule.I’m hyping this film up knowing you can’t watch for yourself and disagree, because some years ago Between The Madness disappeared. Internet searches bring back only a few clips and some old message board posts written by fans trying to track down a copy for themselves. It can’t be found in any great online warehouses or auctions or pirate sites. The film is unavailable, but just because something is unavailable doesn’t mean that it’s entirely gone. I first heard of Between The Madness in a bar in Austin, Texas in 2016. I was there performing in my first ever comedy festival, which was being held during South by Southwest but was not an official part of that indie rock fest turned thinkfluencer/tech/media/music/whatever/free stuff bonanza that is modern South By. The fest I flew in for was an independent venture put on by the local alt-comedy club opportunistically timed to siphon off some SXSW asses for their seats and attract sponsor dollars from players too small to buy-in to the main event. Getting suckered into paying your own way to a bad festival is a stock comedian story, and this one turned out to be mine. The day of the festival I learned my involvement consisted of one ten minute set, to be performed in the lobby of the club, in the early afternoon, standing alongside sponsor booths as they handed out free samples. I’d had rough sets before but this was the first time I’d been upstaged by organic soybean chips.The chips were not good but they were my compensation, so I finished my set and stuffed my bag full of them before heading back out into broad daylight to find a drink. Walking through the towering corporate absurdity of SXSW was a welcome distraction. I remember AMC promoting a new show about a Preacher teaming up with a vampire by constructing a massive upside down church. USA Network set up an entire carnival to promote Mr. Robot in all it’s corporate approved anti-corporate splendor. I saw handsome Canadian basketball legend Rick Fox for the second time in my life. My bleak festival debut was forced into the backseat.I was staying on the couch of my friend, the hoops writer Ananth Pandian, and I met up with Ananth and his friend Luke Bonner at a bar. Luke starting talking about Between The Madness. I had never heard of it. He told us he saw the film only once in his life, when he was heading into his freshman season at West Virginia, and called it one of the biggest learning experiences of his time in college. Sitting there in summer class, before his freshman season had even started, Madness gave Luke what he felt  was his first real look at the world he was entering as a college basketball player. Line cast and hook set, he reeled me in: He’d never been able to find the film again. He’d been trying for years, he said, and it didn’t seem to exist anymore.Learning that an obscure and noteworthy documentary existed, and that was difficult (impossible?) to find was like a designer drug created specifically for the part of me I’ll describe as Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons but for basketball. I had to find it. I would find it. Then I would judge it. When I got back to Portland I started searching online and two things kept happening: I would not find the film, and I would learn a more about that team’s notoriety that made me want the film even more.As my obsession grew and online searches failed I decided to start reaching out to anyone I could who was associated with the film over social media. I told them I was creating a podcast about my search for the film and that I’d like to talk and, oh yeah, do you happen to have a copy? That podcast never got off the ground as I imagined it but now, three years later and thanks to a pandemic putting stand-up in a choke hold, I had time to go back and re-listen to the interviews from 2017 and share them, finally.I eventually watched the film courtesy of Paul Doyle, the Director, who I tracked down using LinkedIn. By that time Paul was living a different professional life running a business that helped seniors find various services. Along the way I also talked with Terrance Roberson, a star on the team and one of the main subjects of the documentary. Terrance is the first player interviewed in the film, as a sophomore sitting alone in the locker room he tells the story of his mother dying in front of him after suffering a heart attack in church, and the tone is set. Terrance was the only member of that team to play four seasons at Fresno State and talked about his standout career there,  regrets, and current life as a mentor to basketball talent and a mental health technician in his hometown of Saginaw, Michigan.My first break, though, was talking with a member of the film’s crew named Stephen Mintz. I came across Stephen’s name on an old Fresno State message board where someone mentioned he made the film and had since become a stand-up comedian in Fresno. I found his comedian page on facebook and soon we were talking via Skype about his experience chasing around the team with a camera on his shoulder for six months. Mintz developed an attachment with the team that would strain after filming. After the season, still wanting to be close to the team, Mintz took a job as statistician and academic advisor. In the latter role he gained notoriety when he told a newspaper that he wrote papers for players in exchange for money, part of a scandal that got his name everywhere from the Fresno Bee to the New York Times and made him persona non grata to the program. He talked about all of it. Later I’d meet Mintz in person when he got me up on a stand-up show in Fresno and get to talk comedy-shop, basketball, and about his gig at the local Haunted House.Paul, Terrance, and Stephen all spoke with reverence about Tark and shared stories of their time with him. They talked about the emotional toll of that season, the mixed feelings they have, and the impact the film had on their lives nearly twenty years later. And, of course, I got their inside perspectives on the samurai sword incident for the record. I forwarded the film to Luke Bonner, now retired from basketball, who finally got to see the film that hit him so hard as a teenager. Luke thinks the film is still great, and I agree. Since there are no plans to re-release the film these interviews are as close as anyone can get to the experience. I like to imagine another basketball obsessive will come across them while conducting their own search for the film.Now with time to reflect I’ve been able to feel gratitude for how much better it was that I couldn’t simply order Between The Madness from Amazon. It’s unavailability gave me a quest and conversations with people I’ll never forget. Despite how bad that comedy festival was I’m glad I decided to use my “emergencies only” credit card to pay my own way. F**k all soybean chips forever, though. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit sethallen.substack.com

The Perdomo Champaigne Noir is the cigar of choice for this week's episode of Bet Your Ash. In Ep 23 Cornelius and Magee are rejoined by Timmy Nebraska who hopefully keeps coming in throughout the NBA Playoffs. This week the guys discussed such important topics as the length of shorts in the NBA, Space Jam casting, Jerry Tarkanian and UNLV, the number of QBs selected in round 1 of the NFL draft, the number of Alabama players selected in round 1 of the NFL draft, potential trades of first round picks in the draft, John Elway's effectiveness as a GM, team building around Giannas Antentukumpo, The Celtics approach to defending The Bucks, Kyrie's play in the playoffs, The 76ers bench, 50th birthdays, the most Jordan-like player today, why Jazz are no match for the Rockets, potential Rockets v Warriors series matchup, potential Nuggets v Trail Blazers series matchup, whether or not Westbrook can ever win a championship, weird Google search terms, The Nuggets best chance in Western Conference, The Nuggets future roster, and the state of Nebraska being a hub for men's tennis players.

Dave talks Maryland hoops, the future of sports information work in a SnapChat world, and how to foster an ideas driven office culture.   Introduction: Hey everyone and welcome to the All-Star Leader Podcast, where together we learn about leadership from the best and brightest, and keep it fun by connecting it to our passion for sports! I'm your host Daniel Hare, and today we are talking with the Commissioner of the Great Northwest Athletic Conference, Dave Haglund. Dave is in his fifth year at the GNAC after serving in the same role at the Cascade Collegiate Conference, and prior to that spent a combined 27 years in media relations at the University of Maryland and Fresno State University. This is Dave Haglund. Dave thanks so much for coming on the show! Interview Questions: So I don't think we've talked about this before, but if my timing is right I was on the basketball staff at Oklahoma and you were at Maryland when we played in 2001 in Cole Fieldhouse. Maryland won in a very good, rare out-of-conference February game. What do you remember about that one?! First year Maryland went to the Final Four; Juan Dixon was scoreless in the first half, changed shoes and led Now that we have that out of the way, let's start at the beginning. You grew up in Portland; so you're back in your hometown. What was it like growing up there and what were some of your early interactions with the sports world? Grew up an Oregon State fan; Portland Timbers were big and he went to some of those playoff games; and then Trailblazers were big as well Always devoured the sports page; after high school got a sports clerk job at a local newspaper The Oregon Journal which launched his career You went to Oregon State for college; what was that experience like and how did it move you closer to the career you ultimately decided on? The ability to make connections were big, which led to more opportunities; Oregon Journal editor called the Oregon State SID and helped Dave get a job there as a student Big round table in the Oregon State SID room where Dave worked; and Ralph Miller (OSU men's basketball coach) would use that table and Dave's chair to talk to the media after games How did you wind up at Fresno State? Who had an impact on you during your time there and how? What did you learn from a leadership standpoint during your time at Fresno State that still impacts you today. Scott Johnson was assistant SID at Oregon State and got hired at Fresno State as the head SID; offered Dave a job, and he had a job from Oregon State upon graduation as well Three coaches: men's soccer coach Jose Elgorriaga helped him with his confidence; baseball coach Bob Bennett taught him hard work and standing up for your program; football coach Jim Sweeney too. You were at Fresno for a couple of years of Jerry Tarkanian. What can you share about him and his leadership style? Enjoyed working with Tark; easy to work with He was a celebrity coach, and he returned to Fresno which was his hometown after a long, stellar career As a PR person, having someone the media wanted to talk to all the time was great for the job and career There was always controversy that followed him and his program that you had to deal with What drew you to Maryland? Same question: Who had an impact on you during your time there and how? What did you learn from a leadership standpoint during your time at Fresno State that still impacts you today. Leap of faith to move to a new part of the country and a new conference, etc. Hired Ralph Friedgen and went to an Orange Bowl Back to back final fours and a national championship in 2002 As a media relations professional, what were the benefits and challenges of being in the massive media market of Washington, D.C.? Number one benefit was the exposure because of the number of media outlets that were covering you When men's basketball went to the NCAA Tournament, they would take 80 media members along with them Always in the public eye; USA Today, CNN, PBS are right there, so anything a national sports news issue arose, those outlets would want to interview Maryland athletics' staff Let's pause here and drill down on your area of expertise for a moment. Where do you think the traditional area of media relations/sports information is going in the age of SnapChat, Instagram and Facebook? Wishes he was an SID with all the new media Athletic departments and coaches can communicate directly with their fans; this is a great thing! Create your own content in different forms and deliver it, and not need the media Balance between the old and new; the old doesn't totally go away; example is the hardcopy media guides are now gone You left Maryland to take the Commissioner position at the Cascade Conference. Can you talk a little about the motivations behind that move out of major Division I athletics and also out of media relations? Who are a few of the Cascade schools so our audience has some frame of reference? Always thought the Maryland time was temporary and would want to go back home Took a risk by leaving Division I and taking on a commissioner role of an NAIA league Was a one-man band and worked out of his home Was able to bring several national championships to the Portland area 11 institutions in three states: Oregon, Washington and Idaho; supportive presidents and good ADs; Oregon Tech won the men's basketball national championship (Daniel asks about future of NAIA) – they have lost 50+ schools to NCAA Division II in recent years but this has slowed; and Dave thinks there is a place for the NAIA; they are at 240 or 250 schools right now. Then we stole you away at the GNAC in 2011; talk about taking over that role and some of the challenges you've faced. The vast footprint: Alaska, Oregon, Montana, Idaho and Alaska; plus Canada; there's a lot of travel and air travel There was only one postseason championship at the time, and he added baseball, softball and soccer Small college football in the west is very challenging; there just aren't many schools playing; GNAC has five members and plays a double round robin Next year, men's women's basketball championship will be in Alaska this year The air/long-trip leagues are financially challenging because it really is a cost of living increase to compete at the same level Something I like to ask all our guests who have worked in conference offices: how do you go about getting individual schools to put their own best interest aside for the greater good of the conference? (if at all?!) Teamwork; everyone matters ADs have an understanding of what it takes to make the conference work; they are collegial and know there are times when what's good for the group might not be good for them as an individual school, and they are okay with that. Audience question from John Owen: How do you communicate so your team feels welcome to talk to you and bring new ideas? (from email list daniel@allstarleaderpodcast.com) Keep an open door; pop into people's offices and shoot the breeze; when you're relaxed and talking about what's going on, new ideas will come that are worthy Five rapid fire questions Name one trait or characteristic you look for when you hire someone. Work ethic and desire What habit has been key to your success? Underpromise and overdeliver Most important app or productivity tool? iPhone and Dropbox Most influential leader you've personally been around? Debbie Yow (N.C. State AD) One sentence of advice for emerging leaders? Don't remain in your comfort zone too long. GNAC happenings Four final fours in 2016; three teams reached the national championship; Western Washington won the women's soccer national championship Women in Sports Career Seminar – Saturday, April 8th, Portland (3rd annual) 10-15 panelists of women working in sports industry Open to high school/college students interested in pursuing a career in sports WOU Director of Sports Performance Cori Metzgar (Episode 3 guest) has been a panelist @davehaglundgnac on Twitter; @gnacsports Thank Yous/Acknowledgements: Antioch Live/Clear Day Media Group – music More here. Jonathan Davis – production Clint Musslewhite – voice over  

We begin with hoops as we enter the NBA All-Star break. We discuss the first half of the season, trade rumors, and the All Star weeks action, including the Rising Stars (USA vs. World), 3Pt Contest and the Dunk Contest. With Dirk Nowitzki added to the West and Kyle Korver joining the East we look at the rosters and snubs. We make predictions for all the weekend's events, including the All Star Game and the MVP. Next we discuss NCAA men's Top 25 games and the loss of the legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian who won the NCAA title in 1990 with the UNLV Runnin' Rebels. We end with Off The Field news in the NFL, MLB and more. Call in to talk with us at 718-664-9098. @RaeAndTayToday www.RaeAndTayToday.com

Tune in as Vinny Hardy and Terry Brown chat about the Kentucky Wildcats two most recent victories over the Florida Gators and LSU Tigers and preview their upcoming game versus the South Carolina Gamecocks.They will also discuss the passing of two legendary coaches: Dean Smith of the North Carolina Tar Heels and Long Beach State, UNLV, San Antonio Spurs and Fresno State head coach Jerry Tarkanian. Former Kentucky Wildcats in the NBA All Star Game will be talked about as well as the Three Point Contest and Slam Dunk Contest.We are proud to have Johnny Pittman, cohost of The Mills Show, as our guest. He'll be along at 7:15!--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/cats-talk-wednesday/messageSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cats-talk-wednesday/support