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Peace talks took center stage at the White House as President Trump hosted Ukraine's Zelenskyy—who even showed up in a suit—alongside top EU leaders, with Trump promising U.S. backing for European security guarantees and pushing for a face-to-face with Putin next. Meanwhile, a Tax Foundation analysis says Trump's “One Big Beautiful Bill” delivers Michigan families an average $3,000 tax cut while boosting jobs nationwide, and fresh FBI numbers rank Saginaw and Detroit among America's most violent cities—fueling debates over crime, leadership, and policy priorities.Get the stories from today's show in THE STACK: https://justinbarclay.comNew gear is here! Check out the latest in the Justin Store: https://justinbarclay.com/storeKirk Elliott PHD - FREE consultation on wealth conservation - http://GoldWithJustin.comJoin Justin in the MAHA revolution - http://HealthWithJustin.comTry Cue Streaming for just $2 / day and help support the good guys https://justinbarclay.com/cueUp to 80% OFF! Use promo code JUSTIN http://MyPillow.com/JustinPatriots are making the Switch! What if we could start voting with our dollars too? http://SwitchWithJustin.comGet the stories from today's show in THE STACK: https://justinbarclay.comNew gear is here! Check out the latest in the Justin Store: https://justinbarclay.com/storeKirk Elliott PHD - FREE consultation on wealth conservation - http://GoldWithJustin.comJoin Justin in the MAHA revolution - http://HealthWithJustin.comTry Cue Streaming for just $2 / day and help support the good guys https://justinbarclay.com/cueUp to 80% OFF! Use promo code JUSTIN http://MyPillow.com/JustinPatriots are making the Switch! What if we could start voting with our dollars too? http://SwitchWithJustin.com

From peace talks in D.C. to crime stats at home, the headlines keep coming—President Trump presses for an end to the Ukraine war while warning no U.S. boots will hit the ground, and new FBI numbers show crime plunging in D.C. just as Trump cracks down while Saginaw and Detroit land in America's top 10 most violent cities. Former AG Bill Barr testifies Trump had no ties to Epstein, even as Dems try to spin distractions, and Gavin Newsom flops in California with rallies barely drawing 100 as his Twitter trolling backfires. Meanwhile, Trump's “One Big Beautiful Bill” delivers $3,000+ in tax cuts for Michigan families, Texas opens the largest migrant detention center in U.S. history, and Hamas signals acceptance of a ceasefire deal.Get the stories from today's show in THE STACK: https://justinbarclay.comNew gear is here! Check out the latest in the Justin Store: https://justinbarclay.com/storeKirk Elliott PHD - FREE consultation on wealth conservation - http://GoldWithJustin.comJoin Justin in the MAHA revolution - http://HealthWithJustin.comTry Cue Streaming for just $2 / day and help support the good guys https://justinbarclay.com/cueUp to 80% OFF! Use promo code JUSTIN http://MyPillow.com/JustinPatriots are making the Switch! What if we could start voting with our dollars too? http://SwitchWithJustin.comGet the stories from today's show in THE STACK: https://justinbarclay.comNew gear is here! Check out the latest in the Justin Store: https://justinbarclay.com/storeKirk Elliott PHD - FREE consultation on wealth conservation - http://GoldWithJustin.comJoin Justin in the MAHA revolution - http://HealthWithJustin.comTry Cue Streaming for just $2 / day and help support the good guys https://justinbarclay.com/cueUp to 80% OFF! Use promo code JUSTIN http://MyPillow.com/JustinPatriots are making the Switch! What if we could start voting with our dollars too? http://SwitchWithJustin.com

“Manager and leader”? What's the difference. During my conversation this time with Scott Hanton, our guest, we will discuss this very point along with many other fascinating and interesting subjects. As Scott tells us at the beginning of this episode he grew up asking “why” about most anything you can think of. He always was a “why” asker. As he tells it, unlike many children who grow out of the phase of asking “why” he did not. He still asks “why” to this very day.   At the age of 13 Scott decided that he wanted to be a chemist. He tells us how this decision came about and why he has always stayed with it. Scott received his bachelor's degree in Chemistry from Michigan State and his PHD from the University of Wisconsin. Again, why he changed schools for his PHD work is an interesting story. As you will see, Scott tells stories in a unique and quite articulate way.   After his university days were over Scott went to work, yes as a chemist. He tells us about this and how after 20 years with one company how and why he moved to another company and somewhat out of constant lab work into some of the management, business and leadership side of a second company. He stayed there for ten years and was laid off during the pandemic. Scott then found employment as the editorial director of Lab Management Magazine where he got to bring his love of teaching to the forefront of his work.   My hour with Scott gives us all many insights into management, leadership and how to combine the two to create a strong teaming environment. I believe you will find Scott's thoughts extremely poignant and helpful in everything that you do.     About the Guest:   Scott Hanton is the Editorial Director of Lab Manager. He spent 30 years as a research chemist, lab manager, and business leader at Air Products and Intertek. Scott thrives on the challenges of problem-solving. He enjoys research, investigation, and collaboration. Scott is a people-centric, servant leader. He is motivated by developing environments where people can grow and succeed, and crafting roles for people that take advantage of their strengths.   Scott earned a BS in chemistry from Michigan State University and a PhD in physical chemistry from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is an active member of the American Chemical Society (ACS), the American Society of Mass Spectrometry (ASMS), and the Association of Lab Managers (ALMA). As a scientist Scott values curiosity, innovation, progress, and delivery of results. Scott has always been motivated by questions beginning with why. Studying physical chemistry in graduate school offered the opportunity to hone answers to these questions. As a professional scientist, Scott worked in analytical chemistry specializing in MALDI mass spectrometry and polymer characterization.   At Scott married his high school sweetheart, and they have one son. Scott is motivated by excellence, happiness, and kindness. He most enjoys helping people and solving problems. Away from work, Scott enjoys working outside in the yard, playing strategy games, and participating in different discussion groups.   Scott values having a growth mindset and is a life-long learner. He strives to learn something new everyday and from everyone. One of the great parts of being a trained research scientist is that failure really isn't part of his vocabulary. He experiments and either experiences success or learns something new. He values both individual and organizational learning.   Scott's current role at Lab Manager encompasses three major responsibilities: ·      Writing articles and giving presentations to share his experience with lab managers. ·      Driving the creation and growth of the Lab Manager Academy (https://labmanageracademy.com/) that currently contains three certificate programs: lab management, lab safety management, and lab quality management. ·      Helping people through his knowledge of science, scientists, management, and leadership. He is very happy sharing the accumulated wisdom of his experiences as a researcher, lab supervisor, and lab manager. Each article posted on Lab Manager addresses a decision that a lab manager needs to make. Lab management is full of decision-making, so helping people make better, faster, more complete decisions is very satisfying. Ways to connect with Scott:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-hanton/   About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset where inclusion diversity and the unexpected meet, and mostly we get to deal with the unexpected, as opposed to inclusion or diversity. But that's okay, because unexpected is what makes life fun, and our guest today, Scott Hanton, will definitely be able to talk about that. Scott has been a research chemist. He comes from the chemistry world, so he and I in the past have compared notes, because, of course, I come from the physics world, and I love to tell people that the most important thing I learned about physics was that, unlike Doc Brown, although I do know how to build a bomb, unlike Doc Brown from Back to the Future, I'm not dumb enough to try to go steal fissionable material from a terrorist group to build the bomb. So, you know, I suppose that's a value, value lesson somewhere. But anyway, I am really glad that you're all here with us today, and we have lots to talk about. Scott, as I said, was in chemistry and research chemist, and now is the editorial supervisor and other things for a magazine called lab manager, and we will talk about that as well. So Scott, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad   Scott Hanton ** 02:38 you're here. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to have this conversation with you today.   Michael Hingson ** 02:43 Well, I think it'll be a lot of fun, and looking forward to it. Now, you're in Michigan, right?   Scott Hanton ** 02:48 That's right. I live in South Lyon, Michigan,   Michael Hingson ** 02:51 ah, what's the weather back there today?   Scott Hanton ** 02:55 It's probably about 55 degrees and cloudy   Michael Hingson ** 02:58 here today. Well, it's still fairly sunny here, and we're actually, according to my iPhone, at 71 so it was up around 80 earlier in the week, but weather changes are still going to bring some cold for a while   Scott Hanton ** 03:15 in here in Michigan, I visited a customer earlier this week, and I drove by about 1000 orange barrels on the highway, which means it's spring, because there's only two seasons in Michigan, winter and construction.   Michael Hingson ** 03:29 There you go. Yeah, I know. I went to the University of California, Irvine, UCI. And if you ask somebody who doesn't know that UCI stands for University of California at Irvine. If you ask them what UCI stands for, they'll tell you, under construction indefinitely. Sounds right? Yeah. Well, it's been doing it ever since I was there a long time ago, and they they continue to grow. Now we're up to like 32,000 fresh, or excuse me, undergraduates at the university. And when I was there, there were 2700 students. So it's grown a little. That's   Scott Hanton ** 04:05 a lot of change. I'm used to big universities. I'm a graduate of both Michigan State and the University of Wisconsin. So these are big places.   Michael Hingson ** 04:13 Wow, yeah. So you're used to it. I really enjoyed it when it was a small campus. I'm glad I went there, and that was one of the reasons that caused me to go there, was because I knew I could probably get a little bit more visibility with instructors, and that would be helpful for me to get information when they didn't describe things well in class. And it generally worked out pretty well. So I can't complain a lot. Perfect. Glad it worked well for you, it did. Well, why don't you start, if you would, by telling us kind of about the early Scott growing up and all that sort of stuff.   Scott Hanton ** 04:49 I grew up in Michigan, in a town called Saginaw. I was blessed with a family that loved me and that, you know, I was raised in a very. Supportive environment. But young Scott asked, Why about everything you know, the way kids do? Yeah, right. And my mom would tell you that when I was a kid, why was my most favorite word? And most kids outgrow that. I never did, yeah, so Me neither. I still ask why all the time. It's still my most favorite word, and it caused me to want to go explore the sciences, because what I found, as I learned about science, was that I could get answers to why questions better in science than in other places.   Michael Hingson ** 05:34 Yeah, makes sense. So what kinds of questions did you ask about why? Well, I asked   Scott Hanton ** 05:43 all kinds of questions about why, like, why are we having that for dinner? Or, why is my bedtime so early? Those questions didn't have good answers, at least from my perspective, right? But I also asked questions like, why is grass green, and why is the sky blue? And studying physical chemistry at Michigan State answered those questions. And so   Michael Hingson ** 06:03 how early did you learn about Rayleigh scattering? But that's you know?   Scott Hanton ** 06:07 Well, I learned the basic concepts from a really important teacher in my life, Mr. Leeson was my seventh grade science teacher, and what I learned from him is that I could ask questions that weren't pertinent to what he was lecturing about, and that taught me a lot about the fact that science was a lot bigger than what we got in the curriculum or in the classroom. And so Mr. Leeson was a really important person in my development, and showed me that there was that science was a lot bigger than I thought it was as a student, but I didn't really learn about rally scattering until I got to college.   Michael Hingson ** 06:43 But at the same time, it sounds like he was willing to allow you to grow and and learn, which so many people aren't willing to do. They're too impatient.   Scott Hanton ** 06:58 He was a first year teacher the year I had him so he hadn't become cynical yet. So it was great to just be able to stay after class and ask him a question, or put my hand up in class and ask him a question. He also did a whole series of demonstrations that were fabulous and made the science come to life in a way that reading about it doesn't stir the imagination. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 07:23 I had teachers that did that too. I remember very well my freshman general science teacher in high school, Mr. Dills, and one day, and he loved to do kind of unique things, just to push the boundaries of students a little bit. He came in one day and he said, I got a pop quiz for everybody, which doesn't help me, because the pop quiz was in print, but he handed it out. And then he took me to the back of the room, and he said, You're not going to really be able to do this quiz. Let me tell you why. And he said, Oh, and one thing he said is, just be sure you follow all the instructions and you'll be fine on the test to everybody. He brought me back to the back of the room. He says, Well, here's the deal. He says, if people really read the instructions, what they'll do is they'll read the instruction that says, Read all the questions before you start answering, and if you get to the last question, it says answer only the first question, which is what is your name and and sure enough, of course, people didn't read the instructions. And he said, so I wouldn't be able to really deal with you with that one, with that whole thing, just because it wouldn't work well. And I said, I understand, but he loved to make students think, and I learned so much about the whole concept of realizing the need to observe and be observant in all that you do. And it was lessons like that from him that really helped a lot with that. For me,   Scott Hanton ** 08:48 I had a high school chemistry teacher named Mrs. Schultz, and the first experiment that we did in her class, in the first week of classes, was she wanted us to document all of the observations that we could make about a burning candle. And I was a hot shot student. Thought I, you know, owned the world, and I was going to ace this test. And, you know, I had maybe a dozen observations about a burning candle, and thought I had done a great job describing it, until she started sharing her list, and she probably had 80 observations about a burning candle, and it taught me the power of observation and the need to talk about the details of those observations and to be specific about what the observations were. And that experiment seems simple, light a candle and tell me what you see. Yeah, but that lesson has carried on with me now for more than approaching 50 years.   Michael Hingson ** 09:47 Let's see, as I recall, if you light a candle, what the center of the flame is actually pretty cool compared to the outside. It's more hollow. Now I wouldn't be able to easily tell that, because. Is my my process for observing doesn't really use eyesight to do that, so I I'm sure there are other technologies today that I could use to get more of that information. But   Scott Hanton ** 10:12 I'm also sure that that experiment could be re crafted so that it wasn't so visual, yeah, right, that there could be tactile experiments to tell me about observations or or audible experiments about observation, where you would excel in ways that I would suffer because I'm so visually dominant. The   Michael Hingson ** 10:33 issue, though, is that today, there's a lot more technology to do that than there was when I was in school and you were in school, but yeah, I think there is a lot available. There's a company called Independence Science, which is actually owned and run by Dr Cary sapollo. And Carrie is blind, and he is a blind chemist, and he wanted to help develop products for blind people to be able to deal with laboratory work. So he actually worked with a company that was, well, it's now Vernier education systems. They make a product called LabQuest with something like 80 different kinds of probes that you can attach to it, and the LabQuest will will provide visual interpretations of whatever the probes are showing carry, and independent science took that product and made it talk, so that There is now a Talking LabQuest. And the reality is that all those probes became usable because the LabQuest became accessible to be able to do that, and they put a lot of other things into it too. So it's more than just as a talking device, a lab device. It's got a periodic table in it. It's got a lot of other kinds of things that they just put in it as well. But it's really pretty cool because it now makes science a whole lot more accessible. I'm going to have to think about the different kinds of probes and how one could use that to look at a candle. I think that'd be kind of fun.   Scott Hanton ** 12:15 And it's just awesome to hear that there's innovation and space to make science more available to everybody. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 12:23 the real problem that we face is the one that we mostly always have faced, which is societal attitudes, as opposed to really being or not being able to do the experiments, is people think we can't, and that's the barrier that we always, usually have to overcome.   Scott Hanton ** 12:39 What I find in my time as a coach, mentor, supervisor, is that if somebody believes they can't do it, they can't do it. Yeah. And so it's often about overcoming their own mental limitations, the limitations that they've placed on themselves,   Michael Hingson ** 12:56 and that's right, or unfortunately, the limitations that other people place on us, and we, all too often and weigh too much, buy into those limitations. So it's it is something that we, especially in the sciences, should recognize that we shouldn't be doing so much of. I know that when I was at UC Irvine as a graduate student, I learned once that there was a letter in my file that a professor wrote. Fortunately, I never had him as a professor, but it and I was in my master's program at the time in physics, and this guy put a letter in my file saying that no blind person could ever absorb the material to get an advanced degree in physics at the University. Just put that in there, which is so unfortunate, because the real thing that is demonstrated there is a prejudice that no scientist should ever have.   Scott Hanton ** 13:51 I'm hopeful that as you graduated, there was a retraction letter in your file as well,   Michael Hingson ** 13:57 not that I ever heard, but yeah. Well, I'd already gotten my bachelor's degree, but yeah. But you know, things happen, but it is a it is a societal thing, and society all too often creates limitations, and sometimes we don't find them right away, but it is one of the big issues that, in general, we have to deal with. And on all too often, society does some pretty strange things because it doesn't understand what science is all about. I know when we were dealing with covid, when it all started, leaving the conspiracy theorists out of it. One of the things that I learned was that we have all these discussions about AI, if you will. But AI was one of the primary mechanisms that helped to develop the mRNA vaccines that are now still the primary things that we use to get vaccinated against covid, because they the artificial intelligence. I'm not sure how artificial. It is, but was able to craft what became the vaccine in a few days. And scientists acknowledged, if they had to do it totally on their own, it would take years to have done what AI did in a few days.   Scott Hanton ** 15:13 The AI technology is amazing and powerful, but it's not new. No, I met a person who shared her story about AI investigations and talked about what she was doing in this field 30 years ago. Yeah, in her master's work. And you know, I knew it wasn't brand new, but I didn't really realize how deep its roots went until I talked to her.   Michael Hingson ** 15:37 I worked as my first jobs out of college with Ray Kurzweil, who, of course, nowadays, is well known for the singularity and so on. But back then, he developed the first reading machine that blind people could use to read printed material. And one of the things that he put into that machine was the ability, as it scanned more material, to learn and better recognize the material. And so he was doing machine learning back in the 1970s   Scott Hanton ** 16:07 right? And all of this is, you know, as Newton said on the shoulders of giants, right, right? He said it a bit cynically, but it's still true that we all in science, we are learning from each other. We're learning from the broader community, and we're integrating that knowledge as we tackle the challenges that we are exploring.   Michael Hingson ** 16:27 So what got you to go into chemistry when you went into college?   Scott Hanton ** 16:33 That's a good question. So when I was 13 years old, I went on a youth a church group youth trip to another city, and so they split us up, and there were three of us from our group that stayed overnight in a host family. And at dinner that night, the father worked in a pharmaceutical company, and he talked about the work he was doing, and what he was doing was really synthetic chemistry around small molecule drug discovery. And for me, it was absolutely fascinating. I was thrilled at that information. I didn't know any scientists growing up, I had no adult input other than teachers about science, and I can remember going back home and my parents asking me how the trip went. And it's like, it's fantastic. I'm going to be a chemist. And they both looked at me like, what is that? How do you make money from it? How do you get that? My dad was a banker. My mom was a school teacher. They had no scientific background, but that that one conversation, such serendipity, right? One conversation when I was 13 years old, and I came home and said, I'm going to be a chemist, and I've never really deviated from that path. Did you have other siblings? Younger brother and another younger sister?   Michael Hingson ** 17:54 Okay? Did they go into science by any remote chance?   Scott Hanton ** 17:58 Not at all. So they were both seventh grade teachers for more than 30 years. So my brother taught math and English, and my sister teaches social studies.   Michael Hingson ** 18:10 Well, there you go. But that is also important. I actually wanted to teach physics, but jobs and other things and circumstances took me in different directions, but I think the reality is that I ended up going into sales. And what I realized, and it was partly because of a Dale Carnegie sales course I took, but I realized that good sales people are really teachers, because they're really teaching people about products or about things, and they're also sharp enough to recognize what their products might or might not do to help a customer. But that, again, not everyone does that, but so I figure I still was teaching, and today, being a public speaker, traveling the world, talking, of course, about teamwork and other things, it's still all about teaching.   Scott Hanton ** 18:57 I think I've always been a teacher, and if you talk to my coworkers along the way, I enjoy helping people. I enjoy sharing my knowledge. There's always been a teacher inside but only in this job as the editorial director at lab manager have I really been able to do it directly. So we've developed what we call the lab manager Academy, and I create e learning courses to help lab managers be more successful, and it's been a passion project for me, and it's been a load of fun.   Michael Hingson ** 19:30 And it doesn't get better than that. It's always great when it's a load of fun, yes,   Scott Hanton ** 19:35 well, so you left college and you got a bachelor's and a master's degree, right? No masters for me, that step you went right to the old PhD, yeah. So I went straight. I went graduated from Michigan State. So Michigan State was on terms back in those days. So graduated in June, got married in July, moved to Wisconsin in August. To graduate school at the end of August at the University of Wisconsin. Okay? And my second year as a graduate student, my professor asked me, Do you want to stop and complete a master's? And I said, Wait, tell me about this word stop. And he said, Well, you'd have to finish the Master's requirements and write a thesis, and that's going to take some time. And I said, Do I have to and he said, No, and I don't recommend it. Just keep going forward and finish your PhD. So that's   Michael Hingson ** 20:30 and what does your wife do?   Scott Hanton ** 20:33 So my wife also is in the graduate program at the University of Wisconsin, and she decided that a master's degree was the right answer for her, because she didn't want to be a PhD scientist in XYZ narrow band of science. She wanted to be a master of chemistry. Okay, and so we took different paths through graduate school, but each of us took the path that worked best for us, and each pass has great value, so we're both happy with the choices that we made,   Michael Hingson ** 21:06 and complement each other and also give you, still lots of great things to talk about over dinner.   Scott Hanton ** 21:12 Absolutely. And she took that master's degree, went into the pharmaceutical industry and largely behaved as a librarian in her first part of her career, she wasn't called a librarian, but what she really did was a lot of information integrating, and then moved into the Library Group, and was a corporate librarian for a long time, and then a community librarian. So that path worked brilliantly for her. She also has a Masters of Library Science. So I have one PhD. She has two Master's degree. I have one bachelor's degree. She has two bachelor's degree.   Michael Hingson ** 21:50 Oh, so you can have interesting discussions about who really progressed further,   21:54 absolutely.   Michael Hingson ** 21:57 Well, that's, that's, that's cute, though. Well, I I got my bachelor's and master's. My wife, who I didn't meet until years later, wanted to be a librarian, but she ended up getting a a Master's at USC in so in sociology and and ended up getting a teaching credential and going into teaching, and taught for 10 years, and then she decided she wanted to do something different, and became a travel agent, which she had a lot of fun with. That is different, it is, but she enjoyed it, and along the way, then we got married. It was a great marriage. She was in a wheelchair her whole life. So she read, I pushed, worked out well, complimentary skills, absolutely, which is the way, way it ought to be, you know, and we had a lot of fun with it. Unfortunately, she passed now two and a half years ago, but as I tell people, we were married 40 years, and I'm sure she's monitoring me from somewhere, and if I misbehave, I'm going to hear about it, so I try to just behave. Sounds like good advice. Yeah, probably certainly the safe way to go. But we, we, we had lots of neat discussions, and our our activities and our expertise did, in a lot of ways, complement each other, so it was a lot of fun. And as I said, she went to USC. I enjoyed listening to USC football because I thought that that particular college team had the best announcers in the business, least when when I was studying in Southern California, and then when we got married, we learned the the day we got married, the wedding was supposed to start at four, and it didn't start till later because people weren't showing up for the wedding. And we learned that everybody was sitting out in their cars waiting for the end of the USC Notre Dame game. And we knew that God was on our side when we learned that SC beat the snot out of Notre Dame. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh gosh, the rivalries we face. So what did you do after college?   Scott Hanton ** 24:09 So did my PhD at the University of Wisconsin. And one of the nice things, a fringe benefit of going to a big, important program to do your PhD, is that recruiters come to you. And so I was able to do 40 different, four, zero, 40 different interviews on campus without leaving Madison. And one of those interviews was with a company called Air Products. And that worked out, and they hired me. And so we moved to Allentown, Pennsylvania to go to work. I went to work at Air Products and and Helen found a role in the pharmaceutical industry at Merck. And so we did that for a long time. I was initially a research expert, a PhD expert doing lasers and materials and analytical stuff. And over the years. I progressed up the ladder from researcher to supervisor to what did we call it, group head to Section Manager, to operations manager, and ultimately to General Manager.   Michael Hingson ** 25:13 Well, at least being in Allentown, you were close to a Cracker Barrel restaurant. Yes, that is true. That was the closest to one to where we lived in New Jersey, so we visited it several times. That's how I know   Scott Hanton ** 25:26 about it. Maybe we were there at the same time. Michael, maybe this isn't our first. It's   Michael Hingson ** 25:31 very possible. But we enjoyed Cracker Barrel and enjoyed touring around Pennsylvania. So I should have asked, What prompted you to go to the University of Wisconsin to do your your graduate work, as opposed to staying in Michigan. So   Scott Hanton ** 25:47 my advisor at Michigan State, our advisor at Michigan State, told us, here's the top five schools, graduate programs in chemistry, apply to them all. Go to the one you get into. And so I got into three. Helen got into two. The one that was the same was Wisconsin. So that's where we went, yeah?   Michael Hingson ** 26:09 Well, then no better logic and argument than that.   Scott Hanton ** 26:14 It was a great Madison. Wisconsin is a beautiful city. It one of the things I really liked about the chemistry program there then, and it's still true now, is how well the faculty get along together so many collaborative projects and just friendliness throughout the hallways. And yes, they are all competing at some level for grant support, but they get along so well, and that makes it for a very strong community,   Michael Hingson ** 26:41 and it probably also means that oftentimes someone who's applying for something can enlist support from other people who are willing to help.   Scott Hanton ** 26:50 And as a graduate student, it meant that I had more than one professor that I could go to my advisor. There was a whole group of advisors who ran joint group meetings and would give us advice about our work or our writing or our approach, or just because we needed a pep talk, because completing a PhD is hard. Yeah, right, so that community was really important to me, and it's something I took away that when I started my industrial career, I had seen the value of community, and I wanted to build stronger communities wherever I went, yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 27:26 So what does a company, does air products do   Scott Hanton ** 27:31 that's sort of in the name, right? They're an industrial gas company. Got some of their big, biggest products are taking air and separating it into its components of nitrogen, oxygen, oxygen, argon, whatever, right? But at that time, they also had a chemicals business and a semiconductor business, or electronics business. So there was a lot of chemistry going on, although a lot of my work colleagues were chemical engineers who were working on the gasses side of the business, we had significant number of chemistry, sorts material science, sorts of people who are working on the chemicals side. Now, over time, Air Products divested those businesses, and now it's much more of a true industrial gas company. But I had the opportunity to work in an integrated science company that did all sorts of things.   Michael Hingson ** 28:23 Yeah, and as as we know, certainly a little helium never hurt anyone.   Scott Hanton ** 28:30 No little helium, you know, raises people's spirits, it   Michael Hingson ** 28:34 does and their voices, it does. I I've visited helium tanks many times at UC Irvine when they had liquid helium, which was certainly a challenge because of how cold it had to be. But occasionally we would open a valve and little cold but useful helium gas would escape   Scott Hanton ** 28:56 very cold. Please be safe. Cryogens are are dangerous materials, and we gotta make sure we handle them with due respect.   Michael Hingson ** 29:05 Yeah, well, we, we all did and and didn't take too many chances. So it worked out pretty well. So you stayed in Allentown and you stayed with Air Products for how long   Scott Hanton ** 29:19 I was in Air Products for 20 years. So the analytical group that I was part of, we were about 92 or 93 people when I joined the company, when I just left after earning my PhD. After 20 years, that group was down to about 35 just progressive series of decisions that made the department smaller, and as the Department got smaller and smaller, we were worried about our abilities to sustain our work. And so a dear friend and a key colleague, Paula McDaniel, and I, worked to try to see what other kind of opportunities there were. Yeah. And so we reached out to a contract research organization called Intertech to see if they would be interested in maybe acquiring our analytical department. And when we called them, and by the way, we called them before we talked to our boss about it, she forgave us later, but when we called the guy on the end of the phone said, Wait a minute, let me get your file. And it's like, what you have a file on Air Products, analytical, really? Why? Well, it turned out that they had a file, and that they had an active Merger and Acquisition Group, and they wanted an integrated analytical department on the east coast of the US. And so we engaged in negotiation, and ultimately this analytical department was sold by Air Products to Intertech. So on Friday, we're a little cog in a giant engine of an global, international company, and our funding comes from Vice Presidents. And on Monday, we're a standalone business of 35 people, we need to write quotes in order to make money. So it was an enormous challenge to transition from a service organization to a business. But oh my goodness, did we learn a lot,   Michael Hingson ** 31:13 certainly a major paradigm shift,   Scott Hanton ** 31:18 and I was lucky that I lost the coin flip, and Paula won, and she said, I want to be business development director. And I said, thank God. So she went off to be the key salesperson, and Paula was utterly brilliant as a technical salesperson, and I became the operations manager, which allowed me to keep my hands dirty with the science and to work with the scientists and to build a system and a community that allowed us to be successful in a CRO world.   Michael Hingson ** 31:49 So at that time, when you became part, part of them, the new company, were you or the standalone business? Were you working in lab? Still yourself?   Scott Hanton ** 32:01 Yes. So I had the title Operations Manager and all of the scientific staff reported into me, but I was still the technical expert in some mass spectrometry techniques, particularly MALDI and also tough Sims, and so I still had hands on lab responsibility that I needed to deliver. And over time, I was able to train some people to take some of those responsibilities off. But when the weight of the world was particularly heavy, the place for me to go was in the lab and do some experiments.   Michael Hingson ** 32:34 Yeah, still so important to be able to keep your hand in into to know and understand. I know I had that same sort of need being the manager of an office and oftentimes working with other people who were the engineers, coming from a little bit of a technical background as well. I worked to always make sure I knew all I could about the products that I was dealing with and selling, and my sales people who worked for me constantly asked, How come, you know, all this stuff, and we don't then, my response always was, did you read the product bulletin that came out last week? Or have you kept up on the product bulletins? Because it's all right there, whether I actually physically repaired products or not, I knew how to do it. And so many times when I was involved in working with some of our engineers, I remember a few times our field support people, and we were working out of New Jersey, and then in New York at the time, in the World Trade Center, we had some customers up at Lockheed Martin, up in Syria, Rochester, I think it was. And the guys would go up, and then they'd call me on the phone, and we'd talk about it, and between us, we came up with some bright ideas. And I remember one day, all of a sudden, I get this phone call, and these guys are just bouncing off the walls, because whatever it was that was going on between them and me, we figured it out, and they put it in play and made it work, and they were all just as happy as clams at high tide, which is the way it ought to   Scott Hanton ** 34:13 be. It's great to work in a team that finds success. The longer I was in technical management, the more I enjoyed the success of the team. It didn't need to be my success anymore that helping the scientists be successful in their roles was truly satisfying,   Michael Hingson ** 34:33 and that helped you, by definition, be more successful in your role.   Scott Hanton ** 34:36 And no question, it could be seen as a selfish byproduct, but the fact is that it still felt really good.   Michael Hingson ** 34:43 Yeah, I hear you, because I know for me, I never thought about it as I've got to be successful. It's we've got problems to solve. Let's do it together. And I always told people that we're a team. And I have told every salesperson. I ever hired. I'm not here to boss you around. You've convinced me that you should be able to sell our products, and sometimes I found that they couldn't. But I said my job is to work with you to figure out how I can enhance what you do, and what skills do I bring to add value to you, because we've got to work together, and the people who understood that and who got it were always the most successful people that I ever had in my teams.   Scott Hanton ** 35:30 One of the things I strive to do as a leader of any organization is to understand the key strengths of the people on the team and to try to craft their roles in such a way that they spend the majority of their time executing their strengths. Yeah. I've also discovered that when I truly investigate poor performance, there's often a correlation between poor performance and people working in their weaknesses. Yeah, and if we can shift those jobs, change those roles, make change happen so that people can work more often in their strengths, then good things happen.   Michael Hingson ** 36:07 And if you can bring some of your skills into the mix and augment what they do, so much the better.   Scott Hanton ** 36:16 Yeah, because I'm just another member of the team, my role is different, but I need to also apply my strengths to the problems and be wary of my weaknesses, because as the leader of the organization, my words carried undue weight. Yeah, and if, if I was speaking or acting in a space where I was weak, people would still do what I said, because I had the most authority, and that was just a lose, lose proposition   Michael Hingson ** 36:43 by any standard. And and when you, when you operated to everyone's strengths, it always was a win. Yep, which is so cool. So you went to Intertech, and how long were you there?   Scott Hanton ** 36:57 I was at Intertech for 10 years, and work I can if you know, for any listeners out there who work in the CRO world, it is a tough business. It is a grind working in that business, yeah? So it was a lot of long hours and testy customers and shortages of materials and equipment that was a hard a hard a hard road to plow,   Michael Hingson ** 37:22 yeah, yeah, it gets to be frustrating. Sometimes it's what you got to do, but it still gets to be frustrating gets to be a challenge. The best part   Scott Hanton ** 37:32 for me was I had a great team. We had senior and junior scientists. They were good people. They worked hard. They fundamentally, they cared about the outcomes. And so it was a great group of people to work with. But the contract lab business is a tough business. Yeah, so when covid came, you know, the pandemic settles in, all the restrictions are coming upon us. I was tasked as the General Manager of the business with setting up all the protocols, you know, how are we going to meet the number of people this basing the masks, you know, how could we work with and we were essential as a lab, so we had to keep doing what we were doing. And it took me about a week to figure non stop work to figure out what our protocols were going to be, and the moment I turned them into my boss, then I got laid off. So what you want to do in a time of crisis is you want to let go of the the general manager, the safety manager, the quality manager and the Chief Scientist, because those are four people that you don't need during times of stress or challenge or crisis. On the plus side for me, getting laid off was a bad hour. It hurt my pride, but after an hour, I realized that all the things that I'd been stressing about for years trying to run this business were no longer my problem. Yeah, and I found that it was a tremendous weight lifted off my shoulders to not feel responsible for every problem and challenge that that business had.   Michael Hingson ** 39:14 And that's always a good blessing when you when you figure that out and don't worry about the the issues anymore. That's a good thing. It was certainly   Scott Hanton ** 39:25 good for me. Yeah, so I'm not going to recommend that people go get laid off. No world to get fired. But one problem that I had is because Paula and I worked to create that business, I sort of behaved like an owner, but was treated like an employee. And my recommendation to people is, remember, you're an employee, find some personal boundaries that protect you from the stress of the business, because you're not going to be rewarded or treated like an owner.   Michael Hingson ** 39:58 Yeah, because you're not because. Or not.   Scott Hanton ** 40:01 So I got laid off. It was in the height of the pandemic. So, you know, I'm too busy of a human being to sort of sit in a rocking chair and watch the birds fly by. That's not my style or my speed. So I started a consulting business, and that was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed doing the consulting work, but I learned something really important about myself, and that's that while I can sell and I can be an effective salesperson, I don't like selling, and as a company of one, when I didn't sell, I didn't make any money, yeah, and so I needed to figure out something else to do, because I really hated selling, and I wasn't doing it. I was procrastinating, and that made the business be unpredictable and very choppy   Michael Hingson ** 40:51 in that company of one, that guy who was working for you wasn't really doing all that you wanted.   Scott Hanton ** 40:56 Exactly the Yeah, you know me as the founder, was giving me as the salesman, a poor performance review was not meeting objectives. So I had a long time volunteer relationship with lab manager magazine. I had been writing articles for them and speaking for them in webinars and in conferences for a long time, probably more than 10 years, I would say, and they asked me as a consultant to produce a a to a proposal to create the lab manager Academy. So the the founder and owner of the the company, the lab X Media Group, you really saw the value of an academy, and they needed it done. They needed it done. They couldn't figure it out themselves. So I wrote the proposal. I had a good idea of how to do it, but I was new to consulting, and I struggled with, how do I get paid for this? And I had four ideas, but I didn't like them, so I slept on it, and in the morning I had a fifth, which said, hire me full time. I sent in the proposal. An hour later, I had a phone call. A week later, I had a job, so that worked out fantastic. And I've really enjoyed my time at lab manager magazine. Great people, fun work. It's really interesting to me to be valued for what I know rather than for what I can do. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 42:23 the two relate. But still, it does need to be more about what you know, what you really bring, as opposed to what you can do, because what you can do in general probably is an offshoot of what you know.   Scott Hanton ** 42:38 So this gives me the opportunity to help lots of people. So on the outside of the company, I'm writing articles, creating courses, giving talks to help lab managers. Because I was a lab manager for a long time, yeah, over 20 years, and I know what those challenges are. I know how hard that job is, and I know how many decisions lab managers need to make, and it's wonderful to be able to share my experience and help them, and I am motivated to help them. So was it hard? Oh, go ahead, on the inside, I'm literally an internal subject matter expert, and so I can coach and teach and help my colleagues with what's the science? What do lab managers really think? How do we pitch this so that it resonates with lab managers, and I think that helps make all of our products better and more successful.   Michael Hingson ** 43:31 So was it hard? Well, I guess best way to put it is that, was it really hard to switch from being a scientist to being a lab manager and then going into being a subject matter expert and really out of the laboratory. So   Scott Hanton ** 43:48 people ask me all the time, Scott, don't you miss being in the lab and doing experiments? And my answer is, I miss being in the lab. And I do miss being in the lab. You know, on very stressful days at Intertech, I'd go in the lab and I'd do an experiment, yeah, because it was fun, and I had more control over the how the experiment was run and what I would learn from it than I did running a business. But the flip side of that is, I do experiments all the time. What I learned as the general manager of a business was the scientific method works. Let's data hypothesis. Let's figure out how to test it. Let's gather data, and let's see if the hypothesis stands or falls. And we ran a business that way, I think, pretty successfully. And even now, in in media and publishing, we still run experiments all the time. And it's kind of funny that most of my editorial colleagues that I work with, they think my favorite word is experiment. My favorite word is still why, but we talk all the time now about doing experiments, and that was a new thing for them, but now we can do continual improvement more in a more dedicated way, and we do it a lot faster. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 45:00 yeah. So what's the hardest thing you think about being a lab manager?   Scott Hanton ** 45:06 I think the hardest thing about let me answer that with two. I'm not going to be able to narrow it down to one, so I'll give you two. The first one is you transform, maybe one day to the next, from really being in control of your science and working with whether it's animals or rocks or electrons or chemicals, whatever you're working with, having a great degree of knowledge and a lot of control, and the next day, you're hurting cats. And so it's about that transition from having control over your destiny to influencing people to get the work done, and working with people instead of working with experiments, that's really hard. The second is, as a lab manager, there's endless decisions, and so combating decision fatigue is a big deal, and everybody in the lab depends upon you for the decisions you make. And it's not that every decision has to be perfect, you know, that's just a different failure mode if you try to make perfect decisions, but every decision needs to be made promptly. And as a scientist, I could always make more data in order to make a better decision, but as a lab manager, I would often only have maybe 40 or 50% of the data I wanted, and a decision had to be made. And getting comfortable making decisions in the face of uncertainty is really hard.   Michael Hingson ** 46:29 So certainly, being a lab manager or Well, dealing with managers in the way we're talking about it here, has to be very stressful. How do you how do you cope with the stress?   Scott Hanton ** 46:42 So I think ways to cope with the stress successfully is, first of all, you've got to take care of yourself. You know, we've all flown on airplanes, and what is the safety person in the aisle or on the video? Do oxygen masks will fall from the ceiling, and what do we do with them? We put them on before we help somebody else, right? We all know that. But in the workplace, especially as a manager, it's hard to remember that as we care for our team and try and take care of our team, there might not be enough time or energy or capacity left to take care of ourselves, but if we don't fill that gas tank every day doing something, then we can't help our team. And so one way to deal with the stress is to make sure that you take care of yourself. So   Michael Hingson ** 47:28 what do you do? How do you deal with that? So   Scott Hanton ** 47:31 for me, ways that I can reinvigorate is one. I like being outside and get my hands dirty. So I'm not really a gardener, but I call myself a yard dinner. So I grow grass and I grow flowers, and I trim trees, and I want to go outside, and I want to see immediate return on my effort, and I want it to be better than when I started. And it's good if I have to clean from under my fingernails when I'm doing it. Another thing I like to do is I play all kinds of games I'm happy to play, sorry, with little kids, or I'll play complicated strategy games with people who want to sit at a table for three or four hours at a time. Yeah? And that allows my brain to spin and to work but on something completely different. Yeah. And another thing that's been important for me, especially when I was a lab manager is to be involved in youth coaching, so I coached kids soccer and basketball and baseball teams, and it's just beautiful to be out there on a field with a ball, with kids. And you know, the worries of the world just aren't there. The kids don't know anything about them. And it's fun to work with the ones who are really good, but it's equally fun to work with the ones who have never seen the ball before, and to help them do even the most basic things. And that kind of giving back and paying it forward, that sort of stuff fills my tank.   Michael Hingson ** 48:51 Yeah, I empathize a lot with with that. For me, I like to read. I've never been much of a gardener, but I also collect, as I mentioned before, old radio shows, and I do that because I'm fascinated by the history and all the things I learned from what people did in the 2030s, 40s and 50s, being on radio, much Less getting the opportunity to learn about the technical aspects of how they did it, because today it's so different in terms of how one edits, how one processes and deals with sounds and so on, but it's but it's fun to do something just totally different than way maybe what your normal Job would be, and and I do love to interact with with people. I love to play games, too. I don't get to do nearly as much of it as I'd like, but playing games is, is a lot of fun,   Scott Hanton ** 49:52 and I agree, and it it's fun, it's diverting, it's it helps me get into a flow so that I'm focused on. Me on one thing, and I have no idea how much time has gone by, and I don't really care. You know, people who play games with me might question this. I don't really care if I win or lose. Certainly I want to win, but it's more important to me that I play well, and if somebody plays better, good for   Michael Hingson ** 50:14 them, great. You'll learn from it. Exactly. Do you play   Scott Hanton ** 50:18 chess? I have played chess. I've played a lot of chess. What I've learned with chess is that I'm not an excellent I'm a good player, but not an excellent player. And when I run into excellent players, they will beat me without even breaking a sweat.   Michael Hingson ** 50:34 And again, in theory, you learn something from that.   Scott Hanton ** 50:37 What I found is that I don't really want to work that hard and yeah. And so by adding an element of chance or probability to the game, the people who focus on chess, where there are known answers and known situations, they get thrown off by the uncertainty of the of the flip the card or roll the dice. And my brain loves that uncertainty, so I tend to thrive. Maybe it's from my time in the lab with elements of uncertainty, where the chess players wilt under elements of uncertainty, and it's again, it's back to our strengths, right? That's something that I'm good at, so I'm gonna go do it. I've   Michael Hingson ** 51:20 always loved Trivial Pursuit. That's always been a fun game that I enjoy playing. I   Scott Hanton ** 51:25 do love Trivial Pursuit. I watch Jeopardy regularly. A funny story, when we moved into our new house in Pennsylvania, it was a great neighborhood. Loved the neighbors there. When we first moved in, they invited my wife and I to a game night. Excellent. We love games. We're going to play Trivial Pursuit. Awesome like Trivial Pursuit. We're going to play as couples. Bad idea, right? Let's play boys against the girls, or, let's say, random draws. No, we're playing as couples. Okay, so we played as couples. Helen and I won every game by a large margin. We were never invited back for game night. Yeah, invited back for lots of other things, but not game night.   Michael Hingson ** 52:06 One of the things that, and I've talked about it with people on this podcast before, is that all too often, when somebody reads a question from a trivial pursuit card, an answer pops in your head, then you went, Oh, that was too easy. That can't be the right answer. So you think about it, and you answer with something else, but invariably, that first answer was always the correct answer.   Scott Hanton ** 52:32 Yes, I'm I have learned to trust my intuition. Yeah. I learned, as a research scientist, that especially in talking to some of my peers, who are very dogmatic, very step by step scientists. And they lay out the 20 steps to that they felt would be successful. And they would do one at a time, one through 20. And that made them happy for me, I do one and two, and then I'd predict where that data led me, and I do experiment number seven, and if it worked, I'm off to eight. And so I they would do what, one step at a time, one to 20, and I'd sort of do 127, 1420, yeah. And that I learned that that intuition was powerful and valuable, and I've learned to trust it. And in my lab career, it served me really well. But also as a manager, it has served me well to trust my intuition, and at least to listen to it. And if I need to analyze it, I can do that, but I'm going to listen to it,   Michael Hingson ** 53:31 and that's the important thing, because invariably, it's going to give you useful information, and it may be telling you not what to do, but still trusting it and listening to it is so important, I've found that a lot over the years,   Scott Hanton ** 53:47 Malcolm Gladwell wrote a book called Blink, where he talks about the power of the subconscious, and his claim is that the subconscious is 100,000 times smarter than our conscious brain, and I think when we are trusting our intuition, we're tapping into that super computer that's in our skulls. If you want to learn more, read blank. It's a great story.   Michael Hingson ** 54:10 I hear you. I agree. How can people learn to be better leaders and managers?   Scott Hanton ** 54:18 So I think it's there's really three normal ways that people do this. One is the power of experiment, right? And I did plenty of that, and I made tons of errors. It's painful. It's irritating, trial and error, but I used to tell people at Intertech that I was the general manager because I'd made the most mistakes, which gave me the most opportunity to learn. It was also partly because a lot of my peers wanted nothing to do with the job. You know, they wanted to be scientists. Another way is we, we get coached and mentored by people around us, and that is awesome if you have good supervisors, and it's tragic if you have bad supervisors, because you don't know any better and you take for granted. That the way it's been done is the way it needs to be done, and that prevents us from being generative leaders and questioning the status quo. So there's problems there, too. And I had both good and bad supervisors during my career. I had some awful, toxic human beings who were my supervisors, who did damage to me, and then I had some brilliant, caring, empathetic people who raised me up and helped me become the leader that I am today. So it's a bit of a crap shoot. The third way is go out and learn it from somebody who's done it right, and that's why we generated the lab manager Academy to try to codify all the mistakes I made and what are the learnings from them? And when I'm talking with learners who are in the program, it's we have a huge positive result feedback on our courses. And what I talk to people about who take our courses is I'm glad you appreciate what we've put together here. That makes me feel good. I'm glad it's helping you. But when these are my mistakes and the answers to my mistakes, when you make mistakes, you need to in the future, go make some courses and teach people what the lessons were from your mistakes and pay it forward. Yeah. So I recommend getting some training.   Michael Hingson ** 56:17 What's the difference between management and leadership?   Scott Hanton ** 56:21 I particularly love a quote from Peter Drucker. So Peter Drucker was a professor in California. You may have heard of him before.   Michael Hingson ** 56:29 I have. I never had the opportunity to meet him, but I read.   Scott Hanton ** 56:34 I didn't either material. I've read his books, and I think he is an insightful human being, yes. So the quote goes like this, management is doing things right. Leadership is doing the right things. So as a technical manager, there's a bunch of things we have to get right. We have to get safety right. We have to get quality right. There's an accuracy and precision that we need to get right for our outcomes and our results. Those are management tasks, but leadership is about doing the right things. And the interesting thing about that definition is it doesn't require a title or a role or any level of authority. So anyone can be a leader if you're consistently doing the right things, you are exhibiting leadership, and that could be from the person sweeping the floors or the person approving the budget, or anyone in between.   Michael Hingson ** 57:33 Yeah, I've heard that quote from him before, and absolutely agree with it. It makes a whole lot of sense.   Scott Hanton ** 57:41 Other definitions that I've seen trying to distinguish management and leadership tend to use the words manage and lead, and I don't like definitions that include the words that they're trying to define. They become circular at some level. This one, I think, is clear about it, what its intention is, and for me, it has worked through my career, and so the separation is valuable. I have authority. I'm the manager. I have accountability to get some stuff right, but anyone can lead, and everyone can lead, and the organization works so much better when it's full of leaders   Michael Hingson ** 58:21 and leaders who are willing to recognize when they bring something to the table, or if someone else can add value in ways that they can't, to be willing to let the other individual take the leadership position for a while.   Scott Hanton ** 58:40 Absolutely, and you know that really comes down to building an environment and a culture that's supportive. And so Amy Edmondson has written extensively on the importance of psychological safety, and that psychological safety hinges on what you just said, right? If the guy who sweeps the floor has an observation about the organization. Do they feel safe to go tell the person in charge that this observation, and if they feel safe, and if that leader is sufficiently vulnerable and humble to listen with curiosity about that observation, then everybody benefits, yeah, and the more safe everyone feels. We think about emotion. Emotional safety is they anyone can bring their best self to work, and psychological safety is they can contribute their ideas and observations with no threat of retaliation, then we have an environment where we're going to get the best out of everybody, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 59:46 which is the way it it really ought to be. And all too often we don't necessarily see it, but that is the way it ought   Scott Hanton ** 59:53 to be. Too many people are worried about credit, or, I don't know, worried about things that I don't see. Yeah, and they waste human potential, right? They they don't open their doors to hire anybody. They they judge people based on what they look like instead of who they are, or they box people in into roles, and don't let them flourish and Excel. And whenever you're doing those kinds of things, you're wasting human potential. And businesses, science and business are too hard to waste human potential. We need to take advantage of everything that people are willing to give. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:33 we've been doing this for quite a while already today. So I'm going to ask as a kind of a last question, what, what advice do you want to leave for people to think about going forward in their lives and in their careers?   Scott Hanton ** 1:00:48 So I was participating in a LinkedIn chat today where a professor was asking the question, what sort of advice would you wish you got when you were 21 Okay, so it was an interesting thread, and there was one contributor to the thread who said something I thought was particularly valuable. And she said, attitude matters. Attitude matters. We can't control what happens to us, but we can control how we deal with it and how we respond, right? And so I think if we can hold our attitude as our accountability, and we can direct our strengths and our talents to applying them against the challenges that the business or the science or the lab or the community faces, and we can go in with some positive attitude and positive desire for for change and improvement, and we can be vulnerable and humble enough to accept other people's ideas and to interact through discussion and healthy debate. Then everything's better. I also like Kelleher his quote he was the co founder of Southwest Airlines, and he said, when you're hiring, hire for attitude, train for skill. Attitude is so important. So I think, understand your attitude. Bring the attitude you want, the attitude you value, the attitude that's that's parallel to your core values. And then communicate to others about their attitude and how it's working or not working for them.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:31 And hopefully, if they have a positive or good enough attitude, they will take that into consideration and grow because of it absolutely   Scott Hanton ** 1:02:41 gives everybody the chance to be the best they can be.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:47 Well, Scott, this has been wonderful. If people want to reach out to you, how can they do that?   Scott Hanton ** 1:02:51 So LinkedIn is great. I've provided Michael my LinkedIn connection. So I would love to have people connect to me on LinkedIn or email. S Hanson at lab manager.com love to have interactions with the folks out there.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:08 Well, I want to thank you for spending so much time. We'll have to do more of this.   Scott Hanton ** 1:03:13 Michael, I really enjoyed it. This was a fun conversation. It was stimulating. You asked good questio

EZ off till Monday, 7/28/25. Enjoy three Patreon encore "Who Are These Zanes?" showsNotes from ep 04: The Cow with Two MouthsRadio station: WEEG "Eagle 97.3" Saginaw, MichiganI did mornings at this station for just a few months in the the Winter/ Spring of 1999. This show was all sorts of fucked up, which leads to all sorts of hilarity 23 years later! My partner, Brian Bailey and I worked hard at sounding like fuck. I hope you enjoy as we begin our search for "The Cow with Two Mouths."Notes from ep 05: Stop Calling Me MikeRadio station: WEEG "Eagle 97.3" Saginaw, MichiganHours after the Columbine massacre, only one radio show was stupid enough to carry on with wacky games and various awkward interactions...you guessed it; enjoy part two of the "day after Columbine" episode with Eric and Brian on the Eagle.Notes from ep 06: Hockey Player HarassmentRadio station: WEEG "Eagle 97.3" Saginaw, MichiganPart 3 of the "Day After the Columbine Massacre Nut Hut Laugh Fest." Looking back on these last three shows has made me nearly throw up with how tone deaf I was. My God. While families and all of the world try to cope with the sudden, tragic loss of innocence, one radio idiot soldiered on with wacky bits like "Karnak the Magnificent" and "Hockey Player Harassment." What the fuck? God, this is bad.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-eric-zane-show-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Dan and Shawn are joined by Mike Morreale (15:53) to talk about the NHL Draft, he  predicts, as many have, that 17-year-old defenseman Matthew Schaefer from Erie of the Ontario Hockey League will go to the New York Islanders with the No. 1 pick. But Morreale goes way beyond just the prediction, backing it up with facts and information about Schaefer, including how he got to be the consensus No. 1 despite playing only 17 games this season. Morreale also discusses many of the other top prospects, including Michael Misa of Saginaw in the Ontario Hockey League, James Hagens of Boston College, Porter Martone of Brampton in the OHL, and Anton Frondell and Victor Eklund of Djurgarden in Sweden. The guys start the episode breaking down the widely reported four-year extension of the Collective Bargaining Agreement and how the NHL and NHL Players' Association got to this point with such a strong working relationship. They close the episode discussing some of the moves we've already seen, including the Utah Mammoth acquiring forward JJ Peterka from the Buffalo Sabres for defenseman Michael Kesselring and forward Josh Doan, and forward Evander Kane being traded from the Edmonton Oilers to the Vancouver Canucks. 

“I realized- dam, I'm causing them shit now and I'm not able to take it…I almost need to save them from me now. I'll come save you from anybody, and now, I have to come save you from me.” Draymond Green In one of the most personal and revealing episodes of The Pivot Podcast, 4x NBA champion and outspoken leader Draymond Green joins Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for a raw, unfiltered conversation that dives deep into the mind of one of sports' most polarizing figures. Draymond opens up about his journey from Saginaw, Michigan to the NBA spotlight, the evolution of his role with the Golden State Warriors, and the challenge of balancing intensity with leadership. He reflects on the highs and lows of his career—including that infamous punch—and how holding teammates accountable has shifted into something deeper: holding himself to an even higher standard. He speaks candidly about the moments he regrets—on and off the court—and how his passion, at times unchecked, has shaped him as a teammate, a leader, and a man. Offering rare insight into who he is beyond the headlines, Draymond contrasts public perception with personal truth, sharing emotional stories of fatherhood, the sacrifices of family, and one pivotal moment that nearly made him walk away from the game he loves. He also addresses Steph Curry's recent admission of imposter syndrome—why it surprised him, and why it didn't—shedding light on the bond between teammates whose dynasty was fueled by doubt and relentless drive. Draymond also breaks down LeBron James' take on ring culture, offering clarity on a message he believes was misunderstood, and shares thoughts on KD's future and the shifting nature of loyalty in the NBA. From legacy to leadership, mindset to media, Draymond doesn't hold back—offering one of the most honest, vulnerable, and introspective conversations of his career. With retirement now looming, he reflects on the fears that come with closing this chapter and the legacy he hopes to leave behind. This isn't just a basketball conversation—it's a story of growth, accountability, and a story of one of the most misunderstood sports' figures. Tap in now for a side of Draymond Green you've never heard before. Don't forget to subscribe for the latest content and comment to let us know what you think!  Get a free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/pivot. Thanks to ShipStation for partnering with us on this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Why is the Michigan Chamber of Commerce sounding the alarm on a possible corporate income tax increase  proposed for road funding? Why do state budget negotiations feel especially different this year, and can a cell phone app someday be used to make lobby gifts more transparent?  Talking about such topics and more are two State Representatives, Jaime Greene, the northern Macomb County Republican, and Ann Arbor Democrat Carrie Rheingans (5:57).  Also, MIRS meets attorney Sharon Almonrode, who's been representing residents impacted by the May 2020 Edenville Dam failure. Nearly 800 business owners and individuals in Midland, Saginaw and Gladwin Counties want the state to take accountability for damages they argue the government could have prevented (36:26). 

In this powerful episode, we talk with Austin Davis, a licensed professional counselor and founder of Clearfork Academy, about how childhood identity, faith, and resilience shape mental health outcomes. This episode highlights the intersections of childhood trauma, the search for identity, spiritual awakening, and breaking generational cycles. Austin shares his journey from a 10-year-old tasked with being “the man of the house” to a father, therapist, and founder of a life-changing teen treatment center. Welcome back to Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads—an award-winning mental health podcast with over 1 million downloads! We're honored to be the 2024 People's Choice Podcast Award Winner for Health and the 2024 Women In Podcasting Award Winner for Best Mental Health Podcast. We want to hear from you! Leave us written input or a voice message at: https://castfeedback.com/67521f0bde0b101c7b10442a "When we focus too hard on not becoming something, we often become exactly that. Healing is found in accepting what made us and choosing differently." – Austin Davis Meet Our Guest: Austin Davis, LPC-S Originally from the Saginaw, Eagle Mountain area, Austin Davis is a Licensed Professional Counselor-Supervisor in Texas. He holds a B.S. in Pastoral Ministry from Lee University and an M.A. in Counseling from The Church of God Theological Seminary. Austin's career bridges the church and clinical mental health worlds. He has served youth through ministry and worked extensively in state mental health hospitals, gaining experience with nearly every mental health diagnosis. He is the founder of Clearfork Academy, a Christ-centered residential treatment center for teens struggling with mental health and substance use. He thrives on working with clients others might call “difficult,” driven by compassion and clinical skill. Austin is also the author of My Kid, My Crisis (2023), a moving collection of stories and insights into parenting, faith, and therapeutic transformation in the face of teen mental health challenges. When he's not working, Austin enjoys being with his family, making music, woodworking, reading, and staying active.

On the day that Sam Dickinson of the London Knights was named Canadian Hockey League Defenceman of the Year we go back to a night where he had a massive night against the Spirit at the Dow Event Center in Saginaw, Mich. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Father Richard John shares about his journey to the priesthood, the importance of hope and our call to serve and evangelize. Parish of the Week: St. Dominic Parish in Saginaw is our Parish of the Week.  Their Parochial Administrator, Fr. Richard John, joins us today!Message from Fr. Richard John – Ordained in 2009, I have now journeyed 16 years as a priest, and I share this reflection as a thanksgiving to the Lord who called me. I come from the Archdiocese of Hyderabad, Telangana, in southern India, and currently serve as the Parochial Administrator at St. Dominic Parish since 2023.Three early influences shaped my vocation: my grandmother Margaret John, whose daily Rosary and devotion to St. Anthony inspired a prayer movement in our neighborhood; my father Aron John, a daily communicant who introduced me to the beauty of the Eucharist; and my first encounter with the story of Mother Teresa, whose radical commitment deeply moved me as a child. These seeds of faith were nurtured by my parish priest, and I joined the seminary in 1998 after 10th grade.Growing up in a joint family of modest means, financial struggles were common. I often joined sports camps at school just for the meals. Yet, through God's providence and support like CFCA sponsorship from Sr. Shirley Ruder, a Dominican nun from Michigan, I could continue my education.Despite health challenges during formation, I experienced healing that confirmed my call. Over the years, I've served in various ministries — from being assistant to the archbishop, to working at St. Anthony's Shrine, teaching, radio ministry, and youth outreach.My path to Saginaw in 2022 was guided by God's providence, facilitated by friends, Fr. Raj, Fr. Bill and Bishop Gruss. I remain grateful to the Lord, the bishop, fellow clergy, and parishioners whose support makes this mission meaningful. Thank you

Malcolm X would have turned 100 years old today. We revisit a series of conversations about why Americans so often overlook Malcolm X when it comes to Black History Month celebrations and formal education spaces. GUEST: Ven Johnson, the attorney representing flood victims in Gladwin, Midland, and Saginaw counties, is involved in a lawsuit accusing the state of intentionally delaying the legal process and avoiding accountability. Also heard on this episode: Mid-Michigan dam restorations are picking back up, with residents to pay nearly $218M from WCMU Public Media reporter Teresa Homsi. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUicR1InL2s Episode Description Heather Shea shares how working in a women's center and bringing feminist icon Gloria Steinem to campus shaped her personal, political, and professional journey. She reflects on the enduring need for activism and advocacy in women and gender equity centers. Suggested APA Citation Gardner, H. (Host). (2025, May 14) Here's the Story: "Meeting Gloria, Finding Myself" (No. 270) [Audio podcast episode]. In Student Affairs NOW. https://studentaffairsnow.com/meeting-gloria-finding-myself/ Episode Transcript Helena GardnerWelcome to Here's the Story, a show that brings Student Affairs to life by sharing the authentic voices and lived experiences of those who are shaping the field every day as part of the Student Affairs now family, we're dedicated to serving and furthering the people who walk the walk, talk to talk and carry the walk that all of us find ourselves doing who work in Student Affairs in Higher Education. You can find us at studentaffairsnow.com, or directly at studentaffairsnow.com/heresthestory, or YouTube or anywhere you enjoy podcast, I like to start off by thanking today's sponsor Huron. Huron's education and research experts help institutions transform their strategy, operations, technology and culture to foster innovation, financial health and student success. I get to be your host today, Helena Gardner, and my pronouns are she? Her, her, and I serve as the Director of Residence, education and housing services at Michigan, Michigan State University. I live my life as a mom, a sister, a daughter, a friend and a mentor. I'm with you today from the ancestral, traditional contemporary lands of the Anishinabe three fires, confederacy of Ojibwa, Ottawa and Potawatomi peoples. The university resides on land seated in the 1819, treaty of Saginaw, home to Michigan State University. And I'm going to toss it to my co-host. Neil E. GolemoHowdy. My name is Neil Golemo. I use he, him pronouns, and I am blessed to serve as the Director of Campus Living Learning and Texas A name's Sonny Galveston campus, and I'm just over here living hard and making it look easy, Helena Gardnermaking it look easy now, because today, today, we have a special guest for you. Today. Want to introduce to you, Heather. Shea, you may be familiar with Heather. Shea, we see her often on Student Affairs NOW, kind of a big deal. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of a big deal. Like, kind of a big deal, like, we got a special guest today. I'm really excited. I have the pleasure of seeing Heather probably a little bit more often in real life on campus, as we get to be great colleagues doing this thing at Michigan State. Don't know, welcome Heather. Share whatever you want to share about you. And we're real curious what you gotta say today, so you let us know, and then we will get started. Alright. Heather SheaWell, it's so great to be here. Thank you for the invitation and for all of the work that the three of you are doing to create this, this amazing podcast, I think it's just such a powerful way of bringing the field to life, right? Because we are nothing if we are not the stories that have have shaped us. So I Yes, work at Michigan State, alongside Helena. I have been here since 2013 but before that, I lived in the West. As I like to say, I'm from the west. My originally born and raised in Colorado, moved to Arizona, then moved to Idaho, which is where I was right before coming to Michigan State, which Idaho will play prominently in my story that I'm going to share with you all today. Helena GardnerAlright. Well, Heather, we so you do this, and we typically see you get into our scholarly and practitioner land. Mm, hmm. And so, you know, tell us a story from the heavenly Alright, with that slide, all right. Heather SheaWell, this is the story about how I met feminist icon Gloria Steinem. And I'm going to share this story because it was one of the probably most um.

Our Chief Love Officer, Steve Harvey has advice for... Ayanna in Philly – My daughter is 5 years old and I haven’t had a job since she was born. Her father told me that he wants to date other people. If we break up and he moves out, I will have to get a job to make ends meet. Do I try to hold my little family together by letting him date other women or should I get a job and leave him? Trent in Saginaw – I helped my female co-worker get the air fixed in her car. She told me it was expensive but she didn’t ask for my help. She went to my technician and I paid for half of it. Her sorry boyfriend told me I was foul for what I did. Was I wrong to help? Dorothy in Metairie – My best friend passed away in 2022 and her husband got remarried in January. It’s unsettling to see the new wife wearing my friend’s old hats to church and driving around in her old car. I don’t like it. Should I talk to the husband about this? Chester in New Rochelle – My neighbor swerved to avoid a trash can and he ended up hitting my fence. He said he’s not paying to fix my fence because my trash can should not have been in the street. Is it best to take him to small claims court or beat his a$$? Steve Harvey Morning Show Online: http://www.steveharveyfm.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A Detroit nonprofit called Make Food Not Waste has an initiative to cut Michigan's food waste in half by 2030. There's a Give a Scrap Food Scrap Pickup Service available in Bay City, Saginaw and Birch Run. May 31 is the date for a Scrap Tire Drive put on by Bay County Mosquito Control. For more, visit https://mrgreatlakes.com/

“You can't put love into a house you don't own.” That one quote encapsulates the spirit of Ken Elkins' journey, vision, and mission as founder of Renewed. In this powerful Detroit is Different interview, Ken speaks truth to the generational impact of housing instability, sharing how growing up in a series of rentals shaped his understanding of pride, permanence, and purpose. From his early days in Saginaw, working at Chuck E. Cheese and joining the Navy Reserves just to find a path to college, to co-founding Ferris State's “Black Leaders Aspiring for Critical Knowledge,” Ken's life is a testament to how community can turn potential into power. “When I owned my first home, I felt value for the first time,” he reflects. Now, he's pouring that lesson back into Detroit, offering affordable homes where the mortgage is never more than 25% of your income. It's not just about equity—it's about emotional stability, dignity, and the ripple effects of ownership for families who have long been priced out of their own neighborhoods. As Ken puts it, “I can't stop the developers, but I can flip one house and keep that in the community.” Filled with laughter, real talk, and a deeply rooted love for the culture—yes, lamb chops, buffs, and all—this episode is a masterclass in what it means to build legacy through healing and homeownership. Detroit is Different is a podcast hosted by Khary Frazier covering people adding to the culture of an American Classic city. Visit www.detroitisdifferent.com to hear, see and experience more of what makes Detroit different. Follow, like, share, and subscribe to the Podcast on iTunes, Google Play, and Sticher. Comment, suggest and connect with the podcast by emailing info@detroitisdifferent.com

In this episode, Brandon Caputo previews the Western Conference Championship Series in the 2025 Ontario Hockey League Playoffs between the top seeded London Knights and third seeded Kitchener Rangers, creating another bitter chapter between the two storied franchises.To help with the analysis, Brandon welcomes aboard a pair of special guests to preview what should be another chapter in a great rivalry series:First, Mike Stubbs, the longtime voice of the London Knights from 980 CFPL joins us to chat about this group looking to go for "one last dance" together as they advance to the West Final for a third straight season and looking to finish on a high after winning the 2024 OHL Championship and losing in the Memorial Cup Final to rival Saginaw, the demeanour of the team and X-factor players to watch in the series as the core favourites with lofty expectations look to achieve great things before graduating to the pros.Second, Mike Farwell the voice of the Kitchener Rangers on 570 News Radio in Kitchener talks about the Rangers unexpected path in reaching the West Final for the first time since 2017-18 after a reverse sweep of the second seeded Windsor Spitfires, coming back from 3-0 down to win Game 7 in overtime, and how the next chapter of the storied junior hockey rivalry between the Knights and Rangers is taking shape. SegmentsIntro: 0:00Part 1 - Mike Stubbs, voice of the London Knights: 01:05Part 2 - Mike Farwell, voice of the Kitchener Rangers: 29:42Armchair Merchandise Site: https://the-armchair-gms-sports-ne-shop.fourthwall.com/en-cad/Use our code to save $15 off your first order: https://hockeystickmancanada.myshopify.com/?sref_id=wxgk4kp&utm_campaign=referral_program&utm_source=loyalty== FOLLOW THE NETWORK ==X: https://x.com/ArmchairGMPodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCJUaG5QNg1jwQ5a_32rZs1QFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ArmchairGMsNetwork/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/armchairgmsnetwork/Website: https://www.armchairgmsports.com/== ALSO AVAILABLE TO LISTEN TO ON ==Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/thearmchairgms​Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-armchair-gms-sports-network/id1462505333Spotify: http://bit.ly/ArmchairGM​Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/f69c2372-97f9-4c0e-8d52-ade7d7591cd4/the-armchair-gm's-sports-network== FOLLOW THE HOST ON TWITTER ==Brandon: https://twitter.com/BCaputo_AGM

In this episode of End of the Road in Michigan, we uncover the remarkable 1838 journey of 15-year-old Edward Petit, the first European child born in Port Huron. As a teenage fur trader fluent in Ojibwe, Petit set out to locate a lost winter camp led by the elusive Chief O-ta-was. Braving freezing rain, hunger, and vast wilderness along the shores of Saginaw Bay, he completed one of the most successful trades in Michigan's early frontier history.This story sheds light on the human side of early settler-Indigenous relations and the forgotten routes that shaped Michigan's Thumb.

Explore the rise, golden era, and trials of Bay Port, Michigan's Gillingham Fish Company – once the world's largest freshwater fishery – in this documentary-style narrative.Discover how this Saginaw Bay fishing empire expanded to Charity Island, endured a devastating fire and economic decline, and lives on today through the Bay Port Fish Company.We also examine modern threats to this 140-year fishing legacy, from climate change to proposed conservation laws. Read the full story at R. L. Gillingham Fish Company - Surprising Insights of Commerical Fishing at Bay Port 1896-1978

In this episode of End of the Road in Michigan, we follow fur trader Louis Campau as he builds the first permanent white settlement in the Saginaw Valley in 1815. From his log trading post on the Saginaw River, Campau traded with the Anishinaabe and helped shape the future of Michigan.His post became the site of the 1819 Treaty of Saginaw, a deal that ceded over 6 million acres of Native land to the United States. Learn how one man, one building, and one treaty helped launch the city of Saginaw—and marked a turning point in Michigan's early history.Read more about this story at The Campau Trading Post – How One Fur Post Sparked the Founding of Saginaw.

 Hour 2 of the Big Show with Rusic & Dumas is on demand! To open up the hour the guys discuss the playoff chances of the Calgary Flames. The guys look at Minnesota's schedule, possible must win games for Calgary and how many points the Flames need the rest of the way out to feel good about their chances.  (11:45) Later on, Frank Seravalli joins the show! Frank speaks on Nazem Kadri's consistent play, Aydar Suniev signing an ELC in Calgary, if Zayne Parekh might get into some games if Saginaw is eliminated from the playoffs, what will happen with Rasmus Andersson this offseason, who deserves coach of the year love and more!The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.    

It's the most wonderful time of the OHL year -- the playoffs! Farwell and Dan break down the early returns with an emphasis on Erie. Or is that Saginaw? Either way, that series is surprising. Plus, the Petes will pick first in the draft for the first time in franchise history, which will only add to an already deep roster of first rounders from the past two drafts. But the guys have some ideas for improvement when it comes to the OHL draft, including taking a lead from the WHL. And with the playoffs underway and the games meaning more than ever, it's time to put officiating under the microscope. Share your thoughts anytime at ohlpodcast@rogers.com. The OHL Podcast is supported by Draft Kings Sportsbook.

In this episode of End of the Road in Michigan, we revisit the terrifying days of September 1894, when the deadly Hinckley Fire in Minnesota blanketed Michigan in dense, choking smoke. For five straight days, daylight vanished across Saginaw, the Thumb, and the Upper Peninsula. Ships refused to sail. Trains stopped. Residents feared the apocalypse had arrived.We share and uncover how a fire 400 miles away turned Michigan's sky black, caused widespread panic, and triggered shutdowns across the Great Lakes—featuring original 1894 newspaper accounts, eyewitness reports, and the harrowing story of a burning train that outran the flames. If you've never heard of the 1894 Hinckley fire's impact on Michigan, this is the episode that brings it out of the shadows.

Three civic starters joined the podcast to discuss their city management internships. Emilia Krajewski is a Management Intern for the City of Chandler, Arizona; Diksha is an Administrative Intern in Economic Development for the City of Saginaw, Texas; and Sarah Nissen is a City Management Intern for the City of Plymouth, Minnesota. They shared their main responsibilities during their internships, what projects they are working, and the most surprising thing they have learned. Host: Meredith Reynolds

The higher education landscape is changing by the day. Join us as Owl Talk learns from Dr. Matt Johnson (Saginaw Valley State '00) about the latest trends in the higher education industry that are impacting our chapters today and the future of Sigma Pi Fraternity tomorrow. In addition, learn about some of the volunteer work that Dr. Johnson is performing for Sigma Pi Fraternity to prepare us for the future!

This is in Ann Arbor, by the same lawyers who handled the case in Saginaw. https://www.lehtoslaw.com

In this episode of Total Michigan, we dive into the story of Lonnie Paser, owner of Artisan Urban Bistro in Saginaw. With a deep love for food and community, Lonnie transformed her restaurant into more than just a place to eat—it's a movement. From using locally sourced ingredients to launching a weekly ‘Grateful Pasta' night that raises funds for nonprofits, Lonnie shares how small businesses can create a huge impact. Tune in to hear how this world-traveling chef turned entrepreneur is feeding both stomachs and souls.How Lonnie transitioned from retail and travel to restaurant ownership.The importance of sourcing locally and how it strengthens communities.How ‘Grateful Pasta' nights have raised funds for nonprofits for over three years.Links & Resources:Visit Artisan Urban Bistro: Facebook PageAddress: 417 Hancock Street, Saginaw, MIPhone: (989) 401-6019Support the Grateful Pasta Nights: Follow their Facebook for updatesSubscribe to our Email Newsletter: https://totalmichigan.com/join/Find us on Facebook: https://facebook.com/totalmichiganWatch on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@totalmichigan Show Notes:01:00 - Introduction04:00 - Lonnie's journey: from world traveler to small business owner:07:00 - Reinventing herself and entering the restaurant industry:14:00 - How sourcing locally builds a stronger community20:00 - What inspired ‘Grateful Pasta' nights and how they help nonprofits23:00 - The impact of giving back and how small efforts make a big difference25:00 - How to support Artisan Urban Bistro and visit the restaurant

Never underestimate the power of a mother's love. We sit down with Jenny Dumont Radler, the founder of A Place for Grace, Michigan's only fully inclusive childcare, preschool, afterschool program, and teen center for children with special needs. Jenny shares her deeply personal journey of raising her daughter, Emma, who was born with a bilateral cleft lip and palate. Through her struggles and triumphs, Jenny found her calling: creating a place where all children—regardless of ability—are welcomed, loved, and given the tools to thrive.✅ How Jenny's personal experience raising her daughter with special needs led to founding A Place for Grace.✅ The challenges special needs children face in traditional daycare settings—and how inclusive childcare can make a difference.✅ The incredible stories of resilience and transformation happening at A Place for Grace.✅ The power of faith, forgiveness, and finding purpose through adversity.✅ How you can support A Place for Grace and the children it serves.Links:

On July 1st, 2013, on a residential street in Saginaw, Texas, the body of a young girl was discovered under a tarp. The body belonged  to 6-year-old Alanna Gallagher, who had been missing for just hours. Just over two weeks later, the car belonging to Alanna's parents was set on fire, as was a memorial for Alanna. What happened to this young girl shook the small town of Saginaw, a tragedy that would be exacerbated when it was determined what happened to the young girl. Click here to join our Patreon.  Connect with us on Instagram and join our Facebook group.  To submit listener stories or case suggestions, and to see all sources for this episode: https://www.inhumanpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this inspiring episode of Total Michigan, we visit the Eastside Soup Kitchen in Saginaw, where Executive Director Diane Keenan shares the incredible work being done to serve the community. With a deep passion for helping those in need, Diane and her team prepare and distribute over 8,000 meals a week, ensuring that individuals and families have access to nutritious food and essential resources. We discuss the history of the soup kitchen, the challenges of funding and food supply, and the many ways volunteers and donors contribute to this life-changing mission.What You'll Learn in This Episode:The origins of the Eastside Soup Kitchen and how it has evolved since 1980.How the kitchen prepares and distributes 8,000 meals per week.Volunteer opportunities and how you can get involved.The additional services provided include medical care, clothing, and support programs.Links:Call to donate or volunteer: 989-755-3663East Side Soup Kitchen Website: https://www.eastsidesoupkitchen.org/East Side Soup Kitchen Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialeastsidesoupkitchenSubscribe to our Email Newsletter: https://totalmichigan.com/join/Find us on Facebook: https://facebook.com/totalmichiganWatch on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@totalmichigan

I don't want to go back to the cold, hard streets of Saginaw yet, but I confirmed a bar crawl for St. Paddy's Saturday with Mrs. & Mr. Snowman, and scheduled a haircut with Rachel, so I'll feel a nice connection and flow during reentry.  See you when I retire again next year, Alabama. Really lookin' forward to the weekend, you guys.   Subscribe for 101 episodes of K4RDS

As OHL expansion seems inevitable, Farwell and Dan break down a listener's proposal for a future junior hockey model. It's hard to say exactly what this league will look like in a decade, but we know for sure that the NCAA rule change has made waves and there's little doubt the OHL will look different in the years ahead. Are you ready for some change? Plus, the weekly Wraparound recognizes a night to remember for a Niagara netminder and some big points in Windsor and Saginaw. And thanks to the Otters and Petes, we picked the perfect week to remember some wild games from a bygone era. Got a thought on what junior hockey could look like in the future? Remember a wild game that you saw years ago? Drop us an email anytime at ohlpodcast@rogers.com. The OHL Podcast is produced in partnership with Draft Kings Sportsbook.

Where has the time gone?!!    We began coming straight out of the Covid closures in the back of Alan Garcia's garage podcast studio in Essexville in February of 2021. Now we fire up in our new comfy confines of the Bay City Historical Museum Second Floor where the Michigan Rock and Roll Legends displays can be witnessed. When we first moved to the Museum, you could hear us trying areas, tables, spaces. Now we have our own 'couch relaxed' room, boom mic'd and offering even more quality as our MMHP989 brand continues to expand by word of mouth from music lover to music lover, musician to musician, fan to DJ, author to Podcaster. We are 118 episodes deep according to Apple Podcasting--sounds about right!    Because of YOU listeners and our first class guests, we are getting requests from more music legends now to help tell their story and be featured on our show. As we roll into year four, we plan to expand the horizons and look at our show from other angles. The best is yet to come!    In our four year catch up, Dr. J dishes out the details behind our new first class operation, discusses state of the state of the amazing Michigan Rock Hall (have you visited it yet?), we talk about our joy of the show and how its reached beyond the state of Michigan, and we get a deep dive into an artist whom has passed away from Saginaw, songwriter Bob Buchanan who wrote the great Hickory Wind with the late Gram Parsons while on a train, members of the International Submarine Band. Told only as Sir Fred can, bruises and all! We are lucky to have this outlet for this story--so stick around for it. Sit back and celebrate our Fourth Anniversary with the MMHP989!

Kid welcomes in Jay Bird talkin' about trucks sliding on ice, dumbasses flagging semis too late, chaos on I-75 and Florida's fuckroads. Semis don't care, crashing with beds to nap in. Jaybird caught Keanu sneaking out a Detroit dive and Kevin James will be in Saginaw soon; Kid's chasing a Paul Blart scribble—haters can choke, Leah Remini's too fine for that schlub. Thanksgiving flashback: Kid wishes he ditched turkey for Cheech and Chong—family can wait. We revisit 2015: with Copper and Kid, blitzed after Silverback's karaoke flake, dodge cops in a shitty Pontiac. Drunk, stoned, weaving through Essexville streets, they bullshit their way out via J-Mac's notoriety.  Jaybird and his daughter hit the Heisman in NYC—she drives like a beast, Statue of Liberty's ass pops from Jersey, then she nails a Pennsylvania blizzard, tailing trucks.  Kid is wearing a Braves hat that honors his dead pal Andy, saving Kid's skull in a bike crash—collarbone snapped, brain intact. They plot a no-flirt waitress night—fat fucking chance.

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A full-on cock-punching assault with Kid A.G. and El Pres shitting all over the Bay City bridge fuckfest. They're plotting to strut across those bridges with their pants down, assholes winking at the Bay City Bridge cocksuckers, daring them to ram it in deep.  Kid's itching to drop daily audio turds, skull-fucking these toll-charging dickwads ‘til they choke. Screwing downtown raw, and they're raging it wasn't fixed when they could have—fucking morons.  Some badass is pimping a pontoon ferry to flip the bird at tolls—free rides to Sand Bar, H2Os, and the docks, if he can suck enough sponsor dick. Kid's texting his crew about how these bridges are choking the life out of downtown's 20-year rimjob revival—traffic's deader than a nun's pussy. El Pres bitches about the west side being a ghost town—school, brewery, mall, and fuck-all else—while the east side's got parades and concerts up the ass.  Saginaw's bridges are free, motherfucker—Kid's ready to dive off Bay City's spans with a middle finger raised, hawking “Fuck the Bridge 2023” tees to every stubborn shit in town. Kid's got a clip of some cunt busting her man with two families, four brats, and a double-dick life. El Pres fesses up to juggling two dripping pussies in his sleazy 20s, dodging busts with “Wasn't me” bullshit ‘til they caught his ass on Bay Road. They unload on clingy whores—strip club sluts and needy cunts who can't handle “just friends” without wanting cock.  Kid's done with marriage—“Fuck that shit ‘til my balls rot off!”—and they're calling out a shady ex-cohost, a lying sack of shit who dodges invites and spins tales. Drag his ass in here—let's see if he's got the sack to spill his filthy guts.

Republicans and Democrats are working rapidly toward a compromise on Michigan's future paid sick time law. Angela Madden of the Michigan Association of Ambulance Services is especially worried about how court-ordered changes to sick time policies might impact emergency services (1:30).  Also, MIRS hosts a special Presidents Day segment with Jordan Cash, a constitutional democracy professor. He talks about the country's few unelected presidents, and the constitutional questions raised by President Donald Trump's executive orders (22:10).  Additionally, where does public transit fit in Michigan's upcoming road funding debate? MIRS catches up with John Dulmes of the state's public transit association and Jamie Forbes of Saginaw's regional transit authority (44:05).

https://youtu.be/ZU3n1YBJfr0?feature=shared Episode Description Faced with a difficult financial need and slightly overwhelmed with doubt,  a single mom learns a powerful lesson about collective good and allowing colleagues and others to help with creative resolutions.   Suggested APA Citation Golemo, N.E. (Host). (2025, February 5). Here's the Story: “Leaning on Collective Good.” (No. 244) [Audio podcast episode]. In Student Affairs NOW. https://studentaffairsnow.com/heres-the-story-leaning-on-collective-good/ Episode Transcript J.T. SnipesWelcome to Here's the Story, a show that brings Student Affairs to life by sharing the authentic voices and lived experiences of those who are shaping our field every day as a part of the Student Affairs NOW family, we are dedicated to serving and furthering the people who walk the walk, talk, the talk, and carry the rock all of us who find ourselves serving students and their education in student affairs and higher education, we hope you'll sit with us every Wednesday where we'll laugh, reminisce, commiserate, maybe even cry a little, but always celebrate our own little corner of the college experience. You can find us at studentaffairsnow.com, or directly at studentaffairsnow.com/here'sthestory, or on YouTube and anywhere you enjoy your podcast. Today, we'd like to thank today's sponsor evolve. Evolve. Evolve helps senior leaders release fear, gain courage and take action for transformational leadership through a personalized cohort based virtual learning experience, and I'm your host. J.T. Snipes, my pronouns are he him and his? I serve as an Associate Professor and Chair of Educational Leadership at Southern Illinois University Edwardsville. I'm trying my best to live as a free black man in a world that would have me live otherwise. I'm with you today from the ancestral lands of the Kickapoo and the Illinois Confederacy. My university resides on land seated in 1819 treaty in Edwardsville, and is now home to SIUE. I'm here with my wonderful co host, Helena. Helena GardnerI'm Helena Gardner, and my pronouns are she, her, hers. I serve as the director of residency, education and housing services at Michigan State University. I live my life as a mom, a sister, a daughter, a friend and a mentor. I'm with you today from the ancestral, traditional and contemporary lands of the Anishinabe, three fires, confederacy of Ojibwa, Ottawa and Potawatomi peoples. The University resides on land seated in the 1819, treaty of Saginaw, and is home to Michigan State University. J.T. SnipesHelena. So glad to be with you today. And now I want to introduce my friend Neil, who has a story to tell. But first, Neil, I'd love for you to tell our listeners about how, here's the story podcast came into being and why we're doing this project. Neil E. GolemoY'all, I'm so excited that we're finally, after all the work we've been doing, that it's paying off our first episode. So first I want to say, you know, I'm coming to us from the lands for the COVID The atacap Ishaq and the Karen Kawa people once roamed where they thrived, where they built their lives and left their legacies. And so I'm super excited. I want to remember them for land I'm home. So about this? Okay, so we all know this is a new thing. It's a, you know, a project, this passion thing that we have. It all started, well, actually, it all started with the joke I used to tell about being the one white guy I know that doesn't have a podcast. And, you know, it really kind of comes from this idea that, you know, it's a tough world out there, and in student affairs, it's just one of those. It's not a, you know, it's a calling. It's not yeah question so much. And it's tough out there, you know, like we are problem solvers, and so often we're the ones who get called to clean up messes. Yeah? You know, it's one of those jobs where, like, when you're operating at peak, you know, and you're doing excellent, amazing work,

https://youtu.be/Glu7V0aro2g?feature=shared Episode Description In the midst of managing a campus hurricane evacuation during a pandemic, an administrator recounts a story of an escaped hamster lost in a hotel and his precocious 7 year-old daughter's spirited campaign to find and rescue it. Suggested APA Citation Snipes, J.T. (Host). (2025, February 5). Here's the Story: “The Hamster and the Hurricane.” (No. 243) [Audio podcast episode]. In Student Affairs NOW. https://studentaffairsnow.com/heres-the-story-hamster/ Episode Transcript J.T. SnipesWelcome to Here's the Story, a show that brings Student Affairs to life by sharing the authentic voices and lived experiences of those who are shaping our field every day as a part of the Student Affairs NOW family, we are dedicated to serving and furthering the people who walk the walk, talk, the talk, and carry the rock all of us who find ourselves serving students and their education in student affairs and higher education, we hope you'll sit with us every Wednesday where we'll laugh, reminisce, commiserate, maybe even cry a little, but always celebrate our own little corner of the college experience. You can find us at studentaffairsnow.com, or directly at studentaffairsnow.com/here'sthestory, or on YouTube and anywhere you enjoy your podcast. Today, we'd like to thank today's sponsor evolve. Evolve. Evolve helps senior leaders release fear, gain courage and take action for transformational leadership through a personalized cohort based virtual learning experience, and I'm your host. J.T. Snipes, my pronouns are he him and his? I serve as an Associate Professor and Chair of Educational Leadership at Southern Illinois University Edwardsville. I'm trying my best to live as a free black man in a world that would have me live otherwise. I'm with you today from the ancestral lands of the Kickapoo and the Illinois Confederacy. My university resides on land seated in 1819 treaty in Edwardsville, and is now home to SIUE. I'm here with my wonderful co host, Helena. Helena GardnerI'm Helena Gardner, and my pronouns are she, her, hers. I serve as the director of residency, education and housing services at Michigan State University. I live my life as a mom, a sister, a daughter, a friend and a mentor. I'm with you today from the ancestral, traditional and contemporary lands of the Anishinabe, three fires, confederacy of Ojibwa, Ottawa and Potawatomi peoples. The University resides on land seated in the 1819, treaty of Saginaw, and is home to Michigan State University. J.T. SnipesHelena. So glad to be with you today. And now I want to introduce my friend Neil, who has a story to tell. But first, Neil, I'd love for you to tell our listeners about how, here's the story podcast came into being and why we're doing this project. Neil E. GolemoY'all, I'm so excited that we're finally, after all the work we've been doing, that it's paying off our first episode. So first I want to say, you know, I'm coming to us from the lands for the COVID The atacap Ishaq and the Karen Kawa people once roamed where they thrived, where they built their lives and left their legacies. And so I'm super excited. I want to remember them for land I'm home. So about this? Okay, so we all know this is a new thing. It's a, you know, a project, this passion thing that we have. It all started, well, actually, it all started with the joke I used to tell about being the one white guy I know that doesn't have a podcast. And, you know, it really kind of comes from this idea that, you know, it's a tough world out there, and in student affairs, it's just one of those. It's not a, you know, it's a calling. It's not yeah question so much. And it's tough out there, you know, like we are problem solvers, and so often we're the ones who get called to clean up messes. Yeah? You know, it's one of those jobs where, like, when you're operating at peak, you know, and you're doing excellent, amazing work,

The Sharks began the week by stopping a 6 game losing streak with an impressive outing by Yaroslav Askarov in a defensive win over a struggling Pittsburgh team. However, the Sharks finished a light week with what coach Warsofsky called a “downright embarrassing” loss in Seattle during the dad's trip followed the next morning with a bag skate. The Sharks also spent a down weekend making deals with Dallas. We also cover mounting injuries to the roster, moving goalies and what to do with Askarov. We discuss the obvious quarter century team, the manufactured hype, and what's wrong with the selections. Some notable quotes from the Q&A event with Jonathan Becher, Mike Grier, and Ryan Warsofsky are also debated. Meanwhile, Utah can't figure out what to name their team, salary cap increases excite pending UFAs, Vanecek rehabs with the Barracuda, and Igor Chernyshov starts strong for Saginaw. - Yaroslav Askarov posts a .970 in a 2-1 W over the Penguins - Yaroslav Askarov allows 3 goals on 3 shots during 6-2 loss in Seattle - Mikael Granlund and Cody Ceci traded for picks to Dallas - Injuries mount while Vitek Vanecek is set to return - Askarov to be sent down, will play in the AHL All Star Game - Stock Up, Stock Down - The obvious quarter century Sharks team isn't so obvious? - Questionable answers to Sharks' fan questions - Around the NHL: Utah Hockey Club names, salary cap jumps, 4Nations jerseys drop too late - Barracuda update: Pink In The Rink, 3 of 4 points against Henderson, Vanecek rehabs, Bystedt returns, AHL ASG - and more… Teal Town USA - A San Jose Sharks post-game podcast, for fans, by fans! Subscribe to catch us after every Sharks game and our weekly wrap-up show, The Pucknologists! Want audio only? Subscribe to our audio-only platforms below:

A struggle for the San Jose Sharks as they lose to the Seattle Kraken 6-2. Good news is that Will Smith extended his point streak to six games. However Seattle's four goals in less than six minutes in the second period did in Team Teal. Jules, Landi, and Puckguy discuss a rough loss, Igor Chernishov's debut for Saginaw, and where you can get access to game worn collections. Teal Town USA - A San Jose Sharks' post-game podcast, for the fans, by the fans! Subscribe to catch us after every Sharks game and our weekly wrap-up show, The Pucknologists!
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The story of the Prodigal Son has captivated hearts for centuries, revealing profound truths about our relationships with each other and with God. We all know what it feels like to be lost or to long for a place to belong. In this series, we'll explore Jesus' invitation to find our way home—a place of rest, belonging, and grace. No matter where you find yourself, there's always a way home. If you would like more information about Hopevale and be a part of all that is happening you can download our mobile app by texting HOPEVALEAPP to 77977. You can also go to https://www.hopevale.org/weekly to subscribe to your weekly updates. We want to thank you for giving to the Lord here at Hopevale. It is because of you that we can use digital platforms like this to share the hope of Jesus. To give you can simply text HOPEVALE to 77977 or go to https://www.hopevale.org/give. You can also mail in your donation to 5360 Shattuck Road, Saginaw, MI 48603. Thank again! If you need prayer your Hopevale family is here for you. You can email us at prayer@hopevale.org for our Saginaw campus or bcprayer@hopevale.org for our Bay City campus.

On this episode of the It's All Your Fault podcast, Jeremy K. Gover of AP-Radio and Emma Lingan of The Hockey News discuss: What does Nashville's win over Vegas mean?Does the next six-game stretch make or break the Trade Deadline?Is Filip Forsberg back?Should they trade Ryan O'Reilly?Should they trade Gus Nyquist?A conversation with Preds prospect and recent World Junior gold medalist Joey Willis!Follow both of our hosts on Twitter at @ItsGovertime & @emma_lingan and then follow the show @IAYFpodcast !

Send us a textPlease Like and Subscribe to my YouTube Channel for more Great Guests and Contentwww.youtube.com/@thedanlevelyshow/streamsBag of Tricks Cat is an underground rapper based in Glendale, Arizona. His artistic persona reflects a non-gimmicky approach to hip-hop, emphasizing authenticity and creativity over commercial appeal. He has built a reputation for his unique style and lyrical content, which often resonates with fans looking for substance in music.Bag of Tricks Cat has collaborated with various artists across the hip-hop spectrum, including notable figures such as Mega Ran from Philadelphia, D12 from Detroit, ASTRAY from Saginaw, MI, Whitney Peyton, WILLY NORTHPOLE from Arizona and Smoke DZA from New York. These collaborations highlight his versatility and ability to blend different styles within the genre. He has also performed internationally, showcasing his music beyond local venues.Follow "The Dan Levely Show" onFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/thedanlevelyshow -Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/thedanlevelyshow -YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@thedanlevelyshow/streams -Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/danlevelyshow*THE VIEWS, OPINIONS, OR COMMENTS EXPRESSED ON "THE DAN LEVELY SHOW" BY ANY GUEST BEING INTERVIEWED ARE THOSE OF THE GUEST AND DO NOT REFLECT OR REPRESENT THE VIEWS AND OPINIONS HELD BY "THE DAN LEVELY SHOW"*Support the show

Send us a textPlease Like and Subscribe to my YouTube Channel for more Great Guests and Contentwww.youtube.com/@thedanlevelyshow/str...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! We're ringing in 2025 a little differently this episode.  We are reaching out and spreading the word about a brand new Commitee forming here in Saginaw, MI called "The Beyond the Stars Committee."  With  founding members Junior Junior, Matt Seegers, Alexander Griffin and Charles Conley joining me this week to talk about the Who's?  What? Whys? and How all this came about...  I urge viewers to express your ideas and thoughts in the live chat.  A very informative episode!!!Follow "The Dan Levely Show" onFacebook:   / thedanlevelyshow  -Instagram:   / thedanlevelyshow  -YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@thedanlevelys... -Twitter:   / danlevelyshow  On The Go? Listen to "The Dan Levely Show" on Spotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3YzScsk...THE VIEWS, OPINIONS, OR COMMENTS EXPRESSED ON "THE DAN LEVELY SHOW" BY ANY GUEST BEING INTERVIEWED ARE THOSE OF THE GUEST AND DO NOT REFLECT OR REPRESENT THE VIEWS AND OPINIONS HELD BY "THE DAN LEVELY SHOW"#TheDanLevelyShow #BeyondTheStarsCommittee #SaginawMI #CommunityImpact #podcastSupport the show

Ready to diversify outside the stock market? EquityMultiple brings you streamlined real estate investing. Access vetted, cash-flowing opportunities from anywhere. Start today, with just $5K, at equitymultiple.com_________________Dr. Kristine Goins and Dr. Christopher J. Allen discuss the epidemic of sleep deprivation among physicians. Dr. Allen highlights how long shifts, irregular schedules, and cultural expectations in medicine often lead to chronic burnout.He provides insightful tips, such as maintaining consistent wake times, keeping a sleep log, and prioritizing restorative rest. He also addresses travel-related sleep disruptions and the effects of "sleep debt," explaining that while recovery is possible, it requires consistency and patience. Dr. Allen advocates seeking help for persistent issues and stresses that sleep is fundamental to effective caregiving.BioDr. Christopher J. Allen is a board-certified specialist in Sleep Medicine for both children and adults, as well as Pediatric Neurology. He received his training at the University of Michigan, the University of Chicago, and is currently the CEO and Lead Physician of Quality Sleep and Neurology PC, located in Saginaw, Michigan.A proud alumnus of Howard University and a certified pediatric neurologist, Dr. Allen is deeply passionate about neurology, with an even greater dedication to sleep medicine. His mission is to ensure that everyone has access to quality sleep, recognizing its vital role in overall health. He is a staunch advocate for prioritizing rest in a world where it is often undervalued, playfully referring to himself as a “sleep superhero” on a mission to improve sleep health.Beyond his professional life, Dr. Allen is an enthusiastic Raiders fan, a spirited karaoke performer, and a dance enthusiast.Website:https://www.qualitysleepandneurology.com/Socials.Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sleepdrchrisFacebook: https://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093550283321Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SleepDrChris  Dr. Kristine Goins' BioFind more about Dr. Goins here: https://www.physiciansguidetodoctoring.com/drgoins   Did you know…?You can also be a guest on our show. Please email me at brad@physiciansguidetodoctoring.com to connect or visit www.physiciansguidetodoctoring.com to learn more about the show!Socials:@physiciansguidetodoctoring on FB @physicianguidetodoctoring on YouTube@physiciansguide on Instagram and Twitter Visit www.physiciansguidetodoctoring.com to connect, dive deeper, and keep the conversation going. Let's grow! Disclaimer:This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical, financial, or legal advice. Always consult a qualified professional for personalized guidance.

Port Strike panic-buying, Garth Brooks accused of rape, RFK Jr's can't keep the ladies away, the Teebs-abration continues, new Donald Trump obstruction charges, Will Smith's smelly farts, and Maz tried to cover his lies. ALDS is starting this weekend. Everyone has Detroit Tigers fever. The Cleveland Indians Guardians are going down! We try Andy Dick about working with Dane Cook in the movie Employee of the Month. Andy didn't answer. He was probably busy trying to hawk his Dane Cook ticket for an upcoming canceled show. Politics: The Trump Election Interference case was unveiled 34 days prior to the election. Melania Trump loves abortion. There was a fight at a Trump rally in Saginaw between an attendee and a vendor. Where's Rescue 45?! FEMA is running short of money for Hurricane Helene because Congress is on break. Go buy all the toilet paper.Plus you'll need more toilet paper because of the Port strikes. RFK Jr has been getting it on all over the place. He's not the only politician sniffing out some strange. BREAKING NEWS: Will Smith cleared out the Men In Black set with the nastiest fart known to man. Joy Mode brings you the Bonerline. Use promo code DREW. Call or text 209-66-Boner to communicate with the show. There's a new documentary about The Menedez Brothers coming out soon on Netflix. This time, they get to tell their story and try to convince us that they're innocent. An 18-Year-Old Minnesota kid calls mommy to save him from his car that is stuck at 120 MPH. A New York Congressman up for election is busted for black face for dressing like Michael Jackson almost 20 years ago. He also traveled to support Jacko in his pedophile trial. Drew loves Megyn Kelly and they both share something in common about black face. We call Tom Mazawey right after he got his ball shined up and his bowling shoes tied. Maz is pumped for the MLB playoffs, Tom addresses his lies, talks about his Alabama vs Georgia prediction, and predicts Tork breaks out against The Guardians. Teebs was interviewed on Channel 4 with the worst audio ever. Jim's List: Songs with Tigers and Lions. Britney's loser boyfriend, Paul Soliz, is getting divorced. His wife, Nicole, just filed. We call Nicole's mom to get the scoop. Jennifer Aniston was on Kimmel last night and has PTSD because of her Greek family. And now she has a children's book. Go buy it. Just some more Diddy news. This time, a 6 year old was at one of the parties. Garth Brooks is now being accused of rape. The dockworkers strike is now over. Enjoy all your TP idiots! Visit Our Presenting Sponsor Hall Financial – Michigan's highest rated mortgage company. If you'd like to help support the show… consider subscribing to our YouTube Channel, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (The Drew Lane Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels, Jim Bentley and BranDon).

-- On the Show: -- Republican Senator Tim Scott tries to defend Donald Trump's economic policy on CNBC and it does not go well -- Melania Trump reportedly demanded $250,000 from CNN to be interviewed -- Donald Trump supporters appear to fight each other before his event in Saginaw, Michigan -- Donald Trump accuses Kamala Harris in his latest demented rant, this one in Waunakee, Wisconsin -- Fox News host Neil Cavuto admits to and almost seems surprised by Donald Trump's crimes -- Republican Congressman Jason Smith appears on CNBC and has no idea how they will pay for Donald Trump's tax cuts -- CNN guest Keith Boykin crushes CNN for allowing Trumpists like Byron Donalds to lie about crime -- This week's Friday Feedback -- On the Bonus Show: A very special bonus show ☕ Beam melatonin hot cocoa: Use code PAKMAN for up to 40% OFF at https://shopbeam.com/pakman ⚠️ Try Ground News and get 40% OFF the Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman

We first shared the story of Eric Franks' disappearance in October 2021. While his case is still unsolved, we have significant new information to share with you nearly three years after our original episodes aired, which could potentially shed light on this mystery. In March 2011, 38-year-old Eric Franks disappeared from Saginaw, Michigan. In 2010, Eric learned he had a teenage daughter, so he traveled to the Saginaw area to connect with her. Eric went radio silent in early March, but then his family began receiving emails from Eric periodically. They went along with this for a time, as they had no reason to question that Eric was sending the emails. Still, something was off about the whole thing, and later, they decided to report Eric missing. Over the last 13 years, a bizarre string of events has unfolded, unraveling disturbing clues about what may have happened and who may be responsible for Eric's disappearance.If you have any information about the disappearance of Eric Franks, please call the Michigan State Police at 989-495-5555.If you have a missing loved one that you would like to have featured on the show, please fill out our case submission form.Follow The Vanished on social media at:FacebookInstagramTwitterPatreonSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.