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Purpose, trust and laughter matter.  SUMMARY Dr. Heather Wilson '82, former secretary of the U.S. Air Force, and Gen. Dave Goldfein '83, former chief of staff of the Air Force, highlight the human side of leadership — honoring family, listening actively and using humility and humor to build strong teams. Their book, Get Back Up: Lessons in Servant Leadership, challenges leaders to serve first and lead with character.   SHARE THIS PODCAST LINKEDIN  |  FACEBOOK    TOP 10 LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE Leadership Is a Gift and a Burden – Leaders are entrusted with the well-being and development of others, but that privilege entails tough, sometimes lonely, responsibilities. Servant Leadership – True leadership is about enabling and supporting those you lead, not seeking personal advancement or recognition. Influence and Teamwork – Lasting change comes from pairing authority with influence and working collaboratively; no leader succeeds alone. Embrace Failure and Own Mistakes – Effective leaders accept institutional and personal failures and use them as learning and teaching moments. Family Matters – Great leaders recognize the significance of family (their own and their team's) and demonstrate respect and flexibility for personal commitments. Be Data-Driven and Strategic – Borrow frameworks that suit the mission, be clear about goals, and regularly follow up to ensure progress. Listening Is Active – Truly listening, then responding openly and honestly—even when you can't “fix” everything—builds trust and respect. Humility and Curiosity – Never stop learning or questioning; continual self-improvement is a hallmark of strong leaders. Celebrate and Share Credit – Spread praise to those working behind the scenes; leadership is not about personal glory, but lifting others. Resilience and Leading by Example – “Getting back up” after setbacks inspires teams; how a leader recovers can motivate others to do the same.   CHAPTERS 0:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 0:00:21 - Guest Backgrounds and Family Legacies 0:02:57 - Inspiration for Writing the Book 0:05:00 - Defining Servant Leadership 0:07:46 - Role Models and Personal Examples   CONNECT WITH THE LONG BLUE LINE PODCAST NETWORK TEAM Ted Robertson | Producer and Editor:  Ted.Robertson@USAFA.org Send your feedback or nominate a guest: socialmedia@usafa.org   Ryan Hall | Director:  Ryan.Hall@USAFA.org  Bryan Grossman | Copy Editor:  Bryan.Grossman@USAFA.org Wyatt Hornsby | Executive Producer:  Wyatt.Hornsby@USAFA.org      ALL PAST LBL EPISODES  |  ALL LBLPN PRODUCTIONS AVAILABLE ON ALL MAJOR PODCAST PLATFORMS     FULL TRANSCRIPT SPEAKERS Host: Lt. Col. (Ret.) Naviere Walkewicz '99 Guests: Dr. Heather Wilson '82, former Secretary of the U.S. Air Force, and former Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. (Ret.) Dave Goldfein '83  Naviere Walkewicz 0:09 Welcome to Focus on Leadership, our accelerated leadership series. I'm your host, Naviere Walkewicz, Class of '99. I'm honored to welcome two exceptional leaders whose careers and friendship have helped shape the modern Air Force, while inspiring thousands to serve with purpose and courage. Our guests today are Dr. Heather Wilson, USAFA Class of '82, the 24th secretary of the Air Force, now president at the University of Texas El Paso. And Gen. Dave Goldfein, Class of '83, the 21st chief of staff of the Air Force. Both are United States Air Force Academy distinguished graduates. Together, they've written Get Back Up: Lessons in Servant Leadership, a powerful reflection on resilience, humility and the courage to lead to adversity. And our conversation today will dive deeply into the lessons they learned at the highest levels of command and in public service, and what it means to serve others first. Thank you for being here. Gen. Dave Goldfein 1:08 Thank you for having us. Naviere Walkewicz 1:09 Absolutely. This is truly an honor. And I mentioned that I read this incredible book, and I'm so excited for us to jump into it, but before we do, I think it's really important for people to know you more than the secretary and the chief. I mean chief, so Gen. Goldfein, you came from an Air Force family. Your dad was a colonel, and ma'am, your grandpa was a civil aviator, but you really didn't have any other military ties. Dr. Heather Wilson 1:29 Well, my grandfather was one of the first pilots in the RAF in World War I, then came to America, and in World War II, flew for his new country in the Civil Air Patrol. My dad enlisted by that a high school and was a crew chief between the end of the Second World War and the start of Korea, and then he went back home and became a commercial aviator and a mechanic. Naviere Walkewicz 1:52 I love that. So your lines run deep. So maybe you can share more and let our listeners get to know you more personally. What would you like to share in this introduction of Gen. Goldfein and Dr. Wilson? Gen. Dave Goldfein 2:02 Well, I'll just tell you that if you know much about Air Force culture you know we all get call signs, right. Nicknames, right? I got a new one the day I retired, and you get to use it. It's JD, which stands for “Just Dave.” Naviere Walkewicz 2:17 Just Dave! Yes, sir. JD. I will do my best for that to roll off my tongue. Yes, sir. Gen. Dave Goldfein 2:25 And I will just say congratulations to you for your two sons who are currently at the Academy. How cool is that? Naviere Walkewicz 2:31 Thank you. We come from a Long Blue Line family. My dad was a grad, my uncle, my brother and sister, my two boys. So if I get my third son, he'll be class of 2037, so, we'll see. We've got some time. Gen. Dave Goldfein 2:41 We have grandchildren. Matter of fact, our book is dedicated to grandchildren and they don't know it yet, but at least on my side, they're Class of 2040 and 2043 at the Air Force Academy. Naviere Walkewicz 2:52 OK, so my youngest will be cadre for them. Excellent. Excellent. Dr. Heather Wilson 2:57 And my oldest granddaughter is 4, so I think we'll wait a little bit and see what she wants to do. Naviere Walkewicz 3:04 Yes, ma'am. All right. Well, let's jump in. You just mentioned that you wrote the book primarily for your film book. Is that correct? Gen. Dave Goldfein 3:09 Yes. Naviere Walkewicz 3:10 How did you decide to do this now together? Because you both have incredible stories. Dr. Heather Wilson 3:14 Well, two years ago, we were actually up in Montana with Barbara and Craig Barrett, who —  Barbara succeeded me as secretary of the Air Force. And our families, all six of us are quite close, and we were up there, and Dave was telling stories, and I said, “You know, you need to write some of these down.” And we talked about it a little bit, and he had tried to work with another co-author at one time and it just didn't work out really well. And I said, “Well, what if we do it together, and we focus it on young airmen, on lessons learned in leadership. And the other truth is, we were so tired of reading leadership books by Navy SEALs, you know, and so can we do something together? It turned out to be actually more work than I thought it would be for either of us, but it was also more fun.   Naviere Walkewicz 3:59 How long did it take you from start to finish? Dr. Heather Wilson 4:02 Two years. Naviere Walkewicz 4:03 Two years? Excellent. And are you — where it's landed? Are you just so proud? Is it what you envisioned when you started? Gen. Dave Goldfein 4:10 You know, I am, but I will also say that it's just come out, so the initial response has been fantastic, but I'm really eager to see what the longer term response looks like, right? Did it resonate with our intended tenant audience? Right? Did the young captains that we had a chance to spend time with at SOS at Maxwell last week, right? They lined up forever to get a copy. But the real question is, did the stories resonate? Right? Do they actually give them some tools that they can use in their tool bag? Same thing with the cadets that we were privileged to spend time with the day. You know, they energized us. I mean, because we're looking at the we're looking at the future of the leadership of this country. And if, if these lessons in servant leadership can fill their tool bag a little bit, then we'll have hit the mark. Naviere Walkewicz 5:07 Yes, sir, yes. Ma'am. Well, let's jump right in then. And you talked about servant leadership. How would you describe it? Each of you, in your own words, Dr. Heather Wilson 5:15 To me, one of the things, important things about servant leadership is it's from the bottom. As a leader, your job is to enable the people who are doing the work. So in some ways, you know, people think that the pyramid goes like this, that it's the pyramid with the point at the top, and in servant leadership, it really is the other way around. And as a leader, one of the most important questions I ask my direct reports — I have for years — is: What do you need from me that you're not getting? And I can't print money in the basement, but what do you need from me that you're not getting? How, as a leader, can I better enable you to accomplish your piece of the mission. And I think a good servant leader is constantly thinking about, how do I — what can I do to make it easier for the people who are doing the job to get the mission done? Gen. Dave Goldfein 6:08 And I'd offer that the journey to becoming an inspirational servant leader is the journey of a lifetime. I'm not sure that any of us actually ever arrive. I'm not the leader that I want to be, but I'm working on it. And I think if we ever get to a point where we feel like we got it all figured out right, that we know exactly what this whole leadership gig is, that may be a good time to think about retiring, because what that translates to is perhaps at that point, we're not listening, we're not learning, we're not growing, we're not curious — all the things that are so important. The first chapter in the book is titled, Am I worthy? And it's a mirror-check question that we both came to both individually and together as secretary and chief. It's a mere check that you look at and say, “All right, on this lifelong journey to become an inspirational servant leader, am I worthy of the trust and confidence of the parents who have shared their sons and daughters with the United States Air Force and expecting us to lead with character and courage and confidence? Am I worthy of the gift that followers give to leaders? Am I earning that gift and re-earning it every single day by how I act, how I treat others?” You know, that's the essence of servant leadership that we try to bring forward in the book. Naviere Walkewicz 7:38 Right? Can you recall when you first saw someone exhibiting servant leadership in your life? Dr. Heather Wilson 7:46 Good question. It's a question of role models. Maj. William S. Reeder was my first air officer commanding here. And while I think I can probably think of some leaders in my community, you know, people who were school principals or those kind of things, I think Maj. Reeder terrified me because they didn't want to disappoint him. And he had — he was an Army officer who had been shot down as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. He still had some lingering issues. Now, I think he had broken his leg or his back or something, and so you could tell that he still carried with him the impact of that, but he had very high expectations of us and we didn't want to disappoint him. And I think he was a pretty good role model. Gen. Dave Goldfein 8:47 You know, one of the things we say at the very end of the book is that we both married up. We both married incredible leaders, servant leaders in their own right. So in my case, I married my high school sweetheart, and we've now been together almost 43 years, coming up on 43. And when you talk about servant leadership, you know, very often we don't give military spouses enough credit for the enormous courage that they have when they deal with the separations, the long hours, very often not talked about enough, the loneliness that comes with being married to someone who's in the military. And so I just give a shout out to every military spouse that's out there and family to thank them for that very special kind of courage that equates to servant leadership on their part. Naviere Walkewicz 9:47 Excellent. Those are both really great examples, and I think, as our listeners are engaging with this, they're going to start to think about those people in their lives as well, through your descriptions. Early in the book, you make this statement: “Leadership is a gift and a burden.” Might you both expand on that?   Dr. Heather Wilson 10:03 So it's a gift in that it's a gift that's given to you by those whom you are privileged to lead, and it's not just an institution that, you know, it's not just the regents of the University of Texas who have said, “Yes, you're going to be the president of the University of Texas at El Paso.” It is those who follow me who have given me gift of their loyalty and their service and their time. It's a burden, because some days are hard days, and you have to make hard calls based on values to advance the mission and, as chief and service secretary, there are no easy decisions that come walking into that part of the Pentagon. The easy decisions are all made before it gets to the service secretary and chief and so. So there is that responsibility of trying to do well difficult things. And I think sometimes those are lonely decisions. Gen. Dave Goldfein 11:09 And I think as a leader of any organization, part of what can be the burden is if you care deeply about the institution, then you carry the burden of any failures of that institution, both individuals who fall short, or the institution itself. And we face some of those, and we talk about that in the book. One of our chapters is on Sutherland Springs and owning failure. There was no dodge in that. And there was, quite frankly, there was an opportunity for us to actually showcase and teach others how to take ownership when the institution falls short and fails, right? And you know, one of the interesting elements of the relationship between a secretary and a chief is that if you go back and look at the law and read the job description of the chief of staff of the Air Force, it basically says, “Run the air staff and do what the secretary tells you.” I'm not making that up. Because most of the decision authority of the institution resides in the civilian control, the military civilian secretary. So almost all authority and decision authority resides with the secretary. What the chief position brings is 30 years in the institution that very often can bring credibility and influence. And what we determined early in our tenure was that if we were going to move the ball, if we were going to actually move the service in a positive direction, neither of us could do it alone. We had to do it together. We had to use this combination of authority and influence to be able to move the institution forward. And so that was a — and we talked a lot about that, you know, in the book, and it sort of runs throughout our stories. You know, that that trust matters. Naviere Walkewicz 12:59 Absolutely. We're going to visit that towards the end of our conversation, because there's a particular time before you both — before you became the chief and before you became the service secretary, when you met up together. And I want to visit that a little bit. But before we do, Gen. Goldfein — JD — you shared a story in the book, and obviously we want everyone to read it, so I'm not going to go tell the whole story, but you know where you took off one more time than you landed, and you had to, you know, you were hit, you had to evade and then you had to be rescued. There was a particular statement you made to identify yourself. And many of our Long Blue Line members will know this: fast, neat, average, friendly, good, good. In that moment of watching the sun start to rise while you're waiting to be retrieved, how did that come to your mind? Of all the things you could be thinking of to identify yourself? Gen. Dave Goldfein 13:53 Well, you know, it's interesting. So, you know, for those who've never, you know, had gone through a high-speed ejection, people asked me, what was like? I said, “Well, I used to be 6-foot-3. This is all that's left, right?” And you know, my job once I was on the ground was, quite frankly, not to goof it up. To let the rescue team do what the rescue team needed to do, and to play my part, which was to put them at the least amount of risk and be able to get out before the sun came up. And at the very end of the rescue when the helicopters — where I was actually vectoring them towards my location. And I had a compass in my hand, and I had my eyes closed, and I was just listening to the chopper noise and then vectoring them based on noise. And then eventually we got them to come and land, you know, right in front of me. Well, they always teach you, and they taught me here at the Academy during SERE training, which I think has been retitled, but it was SERE when we went through it, survival training. Now, I believe they teach you, “Hey, listen, you need to be nonthreatening, because the rescue team needs to know that you're not — this is not an ambush, that you are actually who you say you are. Don't hold up a weapon, be submissive and authenticate yourself. Well, to authenticate myself required me to actually try my flashlight. And I could see the enemy just over the horizon. And as soon as the helicopter landed, the enemy knew exactly where we were, and they came and running, and they came shooting, and they were raking the tree line with bullets. And so, you know, what I needed to do was to figure out a way to do an authentication. And I just, what came to mind was that training all those years ago, right here at the Academy, and I just said, “I could use a fast, neat, average rescue,” and friendly, good, good was on the way. Naviere Walkewicz 15:53 Wow, I just got chill bumps. Dr. Wilson, have you ever had to use that same kind of term, or, you know, reaching out to a grad in your time frequently? Dr. Heather Wilson 16:04 Yes, ma'am. And, you know, even in the last week, funny — I had an issue that I had to, I won't go into the details, but where there was an issue that might affect the reputation, not only of the university, but of one of our major industry partners, and it wasn't caused by either of us, but there was kind of a, kind of a middle person that was known to us that may not have been entirely acting with integrity. And I just looked up the company. The CEO is an Academy grad. So I picked up the phone and I called the office and we had a conversation. And I said, “Hey, I'd like to have a conversation with you, grad to grad.” And I said, “There are some issues here that I don't need to go into the details, but where I think you and I need to be a little careful about our reputations and what matters is my relationship as the university with you and your company and what your company needs in terms of talent. But wanted to let you know something that happened and what we're doing about it, but I wanted to make sure that you and I are clear.” And it was foundation of values that we act with integrity and we don't tolerate people who won't. Naviere Walkewicz 17:30 Yes, ma'am, I love that. The Long Blue Line runs deep that way, and that's a great example. JD, you spoke about, in the book, after the rescue — by the way, the picture in there of that entire crew was amazing. I love that picture. But you talked about getting back up in the air as soon as possible, without any pomp and circumstance. “Just get me back in the air and into the action.” I'd like to visit two things. One, you debriefed with the — on the check ride, the debrief on the check ride and why that was important. And then also you spoke about the dilemma of being dad and squad comm. Can you talk about that as well? Gen. Dave Goldfein 18:06 Yeah, the check ride. So when I was in Desert Storm, an incredible squadron commander named Billy Diehl, and one of the things that he told us after he led all the missions in the first 30 days or so, he said, “Look, there will be a lot of medals, you know, from this war.” He goes, “But I'm going to do something for you that happened for me in Vietnam. I'm going to fly on your wing, and I'm going to give you a check ride, and you're going to have a documented check ride of a combat mission that you led in your flying record. I'm doing that for you.” OK, so fast forward 10 years, now I'm the squadron commander, and I basically followed his lead. Said, “Hey, I want…” So that night, when I was shot down, I was actually flying on the wing of one of my captains, “Jammer” Kavlick, giving him a check ride. And so, of course, the rescue turns out — I'm sitting here, so it turned out great. And so I called Jammer into a room, and I said, “Hey, man, we never did the check ride.” I said, “You know, you flew a formation right over the top of a surface enemy missile that took out your wingman. That's not a great start.” And he just sort of… “Yes, sir, I know.” I said, “And then you led an all-night rescue that returned him to his family. That's pretty good recovery.” And so it's been a joke between us ever since. But in his personal — his flying record, he has a form that says, “I'm exceptionally, exceptionally qualified.” So I got back and I thought about this when I was on the ground collecting rocks for my daughters, you know, as souvenirs from Serbia. I got back, and I looked at my wing commander, and I said, “Hey, sir, I know you probably had a chance to think about this, but I'm not your young captain that just got shot down. I'm the squadron commander, and I've got to get my squadron back on the horse, and the only way to do that is for me to get back in the air. So if it's OK with you, I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna get crew rest and I'm going to fly tonight.” And he looked at me, and he looked at my wife, Dawn, who was there, and he goes, “If it's OK with her, it's OK with me.” Great. Dawn, just a champion, she said, “I understand it. That's what you got to do.” Because we were flying combat missions with our families at home, which is, was not in the squadron commander handbook, right? Pretty unique. What I found, though, was that my oldest daughter was struggling a little bit with it, and so now you've got this, you know, OK, I owe it to my squad to get right back up in the air and lead that night. And I owe it to my daughter to make sure that she's OK. And so I chose to take one night, make sure that she and my youngest daughter, Diana, were both, you know, in a good place, that they knew that everything's going to be OK. And then I got back up the next night. And in some ways, I didn't talk about it with anybody in the media for a year, because my dad was a Vietnam vet, I'd met so many of his friends, and I'd met so many folks who had actually gotten shot down one and two and three times over Vietnam, in Laos, right? You know what they did after they got rescued? They got back up. They just went back up in the air, right? No fanfare, no book tours, no, you know, nothing, right? It was just get back to work. So for me, it was a way of very quietly honoring the Vietnam generation, to basically do what they did and get back in the air quietly. And so that was what it was all about. Naviere Walkewicz 21:25 Dr. Wilson, how about for you? Because I know — I remember reading in the book you had a — there was something you said where, if your children called, no matter what they could always get through. So how have you balanced family? Dr. Heather Wilson 21:36 Work and life. And so, when I was elected to the Congress, my son was 4 years old. My daughter was 18 months. First of all, I married well, just like Dave. But I also think my obligations to my family don't end at the front porch, and I want to make a better world for them. But I also knew that I was a better member of Congress because I had a family, and that in some ways, each gave richness and dimension to the other. We figured out how to make it work as a family. I mean, both my children have been to a White House Christmas ball and the State of the Union, but we always had a rule that you can call no matter what. And I remember there were some times that it confounded people and, like, there was one time when President Bush — W. Bush, 43 — was coming to New Mexico for the first time, and he was going to do some events in Albuquerque. And they called and they said, “Well, if the congresswoman wants to fly in with him from Texas, you know, she can get off the airplane in her district with the president. And the answer was, “That's the first day of school, and I always take my kids to school the first day, so I'll just meet him here.” And the staff was stunned by that, like, she turns down a ride on Air Force One to arrive in her district with the president of the United States to take her kids to school. Yes, George Bush understood it completely. And likewise, when the vice president came, and it was, you know, that the one thing leading up to another tough election — I never had an easy election — and the one thing I said to my staff all the way through October, leading — “There's one night I need off, and that's Halloween, because we're going trick or treating.” And wouldn't you know the vice president is flying into New Mexico on Halloween for some event in New Mexico, and we told them, “I will meet them at the stairs when they arrive in Albuquerque. I'll have my family with them, but I won't be going to the event because we're going trick or treating.” And in my house, I have this great picture of the vice president of the United States and his wife and my kids in costume meeting. So most senior people understood that my family was important to me and everybody's family, you know — most people work to put food on the table, and if, as a leader, you recognize that and you give them grace when they need it, you will also have wonderful people who will work for you sometimes when the pay is better somewhere else because you respect that their families matter to them and making room for that love is important. Naviere Walkewicz 24:36 May I ask a follow on to that? Because I think that what you said was really important. You had a leader that understood. What about some of our listeners that maybe have leaders that don't value the same things or family in the way that is important. How do they navigate that? Dr. Heather Wilson 24:52 Sometimes you look towards the next assignment, or you find a place where your values are the same. And if we have leaders out there who are not being cognizant of the importance of family — I mean, we may recruit airmen but we retain families, and if we are not paying attention to that, then we will lose exceptional people. So that means that sometimes, you know, I give a lot of flexibility to people who are very high performers and work with me. And I also know that if I call them at 10 o'clock at night, they're going to answer the phone, and that's OK. I understand what it's like to — I remember, you know, I was in New Mexico, I was a member of Congress, somebody was calling about an issue in the budget, and my daughter, who was probably 4 at the time, had an ear infection, and it was just miserable. And so I'm trying to get soup into her, and this guy is calling me, and she's got — and it was one of the few times I said — and it was the chairman of a committee — I said, “Can I just call you back? I've got a kid with an ear infection…” And he had five kids. He said, “Oh, absolutely, you call me back.” So you just be honest with people about the importance of family. Why are we in the service? We're here to protect our families and everybody else's family. And that's OK.   Naviere Walkewicz 26:23 Yes, thank you for sharing that. Anything to add to that, JD? No? OK. Well, Dr. Wilson, I'd like to go into the book where you talk about your chapter on collecting tools, which is a wonderful chapter, and you talk about Malcolm Baldridge. I had to look him up — I'll be honest — to understand, as a businessman, his career and his legacy. But maybe share in particular why he has helped you. Or maybe you've leveraged his process in the way that you kind of think through and systematically approach things. Dr. Heather Wilson 26:49 Yeah, there was a movement in the, it would have been in the early '90s, on the Malcolm Baldrige Quality Awards. It came out of the Department of Commerce, but then it spread to many of the states and it was one of the better models I thought for how to run organizations strategically. And I learned about it when I was a small businessperson in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And I thought it was interesting. But the thing that I liked about it was it scaled. It was a little bit like broccoli, you know, it looks the same at the little flora as it does at the whole head, right? And so it kind of became a model for how I could use those tools about being data driven, strategically focused, process oriented that I could use in reforming a large and not very well functioning child welfare department when I became a cabinet secretary for children, youth and families, which was not on my how-to-run-my-career card. That was not in the plan, but again, it was a set of tools that I'd learned in one place that I brought with me and thought might work in another. Naviere Walkewicz 28:02 Excellent. And do you follow a similar approach, JD, in how you approach a big problem? Gen. Dave Goldfein 28:07 I think we're all lifelong students of different models and different frameworks that work. And there's not a one-size-fits-all for every organization. And the best leaders, I think, are able to tailor their approach based on what the mission — who the people are, what they're trying to accomplish. I had a chance to be a an aide de camp to a three-star, Mike Ryan, early in my career, and he went on to be chief of staff of the Air Force. And one of the frameworks that he taught me was he said, “If you really want to get anything done,” he said, “you've got to do three things.” He said, “First of all, you got to put a single person in charge.” He said, “Committees and groups solve very little. Someone's got to drive to work feeling like they've got the authority, the responsibility, the resources and everything they need to accomplish what it is that you want to accomplish. So get a single person in charge. Most important decision you will make as a leader, put the right person in charge. Second, that person owes you a plan in English. Not 15 PowerPoint slides, right, but something that clearly articulates in one to two pages, max, exactly what we're trying to accomplish. And the third is, you've got to have a way to follow up.” He said, “Because life gets in the way of any perfect plan. And what will happen is,” he goes, “I will tell you how many times,” he said, “that I would circle back with my team, you know, a couple months later and say, ‘How's it going?' And they would all look at each other and say, “Well, I thought you were in charge,” right? And then after that, once they figure out who was in charge, they said, “Well, we were working this plan, but we got, you know, we had to go left versus right, because we had this crisis, this alligator started circling the canoe, and therefore we had to, you know, take care of that,” right? He says, “As a leader, those are the three elements of any success. Put someone in charge. Build a plan that's understandable and readable, and always follow up. And I've used that as a framework, you know, throughout different organizations, even all the way as chief to find — to make sure that we had the right things. Dr. Heather Wilson 30:21 Even this morning, somebody came by who reminded us of a story that probably should have been in the book, where we had — it was a cyber vulnerability that was related to a particular piece of software widely deployed, and the CIO was having trouble getting the MAJCOMMS to kind of take it seriously. And they were saying, “Well, you know, we think maybe in 30, 60, 90 days, six months, we'll have it all done,” or whatever. So I said, “OK, let all the four-stars know. I want to be updated every 36 hours on how many of them, they still have, still have not updated.” I mean, this is a major cyber vulnerability that we knew was — could be exploited and wasn't some little thing. It was amazing; it got done faster. Naviere Walkewicz 31:11 No 90 days later. Oh, my goodness. Well, that was excellent and actually, I saw that in action in the story, in the book, after the attack on the Pentagon, and when you stood up and took charge, kind of the relief efforts, because many people were coming in that wanted to help, and they just needed someone to lead how that could happen. So you were putting into practice. Yes, sir. I'd like to get into where you talk about living your purpose, and that's a chapter in there. But you know, Gen. Goldfein, we have to get into this. You left the Academy as a cadet, and I think that's something that not many people are familiar with. You ride across the country on a bike with a guitar on your back for part of the time — and you sent it to Dawn after a little while — Mini-Bear in your shirt, to find your purpose. Was there a moment during the six months that you that hit you like lightning and you knew that this was your purpose, or was it a gradual meeting of those different Americans you kind of came across? Gen. Dave Goldfein 32:04 Definitely gradual. You know, it was something that just built up over time. I used to joke — we both knew Chairman John McCain and always had great respect for him. And I remember one time in his office, I said, “Chairman, I got to share with you that I lived in constant fear during every hearing that you were going to hold up a piece of paper on camera and say, ‘General, I got your transcript from the Air Force Academy. You got to be kidding me, right?' And he laughed, and he said, Trust me, if you looked at my transcript in Annapolis,” he goes, “I'm the last guy that would have ever asked that question.” But you know, the we made a mutual decision here, sometimes just things all come together. I'd written a paper on finding my purpose about the same time that there was a professor from Annapolis that was visiting and talking about a sabbatical program that Annapolis had started. And so they started talking about it, and then this paper made it and I got called in. They said, “Hey, we're thinking about starting this program, you know, called Stop Out, designed to stop people from getting out. We read your paper. What would you do if you could take a year off?” And I said, “Wow, you know, if I could do it, I'll tell you. I would start by going to Philmont Scout Ranch, you know, and be a backcountry Ranger,” because my passion was for the outdoors, and do that. “And then I would go join my musical hero, Harry Chapin.” Oh, by the way, he came to the United States Air Force Academy in the early '60s. Right? Left here, built a band and wrote the hit song Taxi. “So I would go join him as a roadie and just sort of see whether music and the outdoors, which my passions are, what, you know, what it's all about for me.” Well, we lost contact with the Chapin connection. So I ended up on this bicycle riding around the country. And so many families took me in, and so many towns that I rode into, you know, I found that if I just went to the library and said, “Hey, tell me a little bit about the history of this town,” the librarian would call, like, the last, you know, three or four of the seniors the town, they'd all rush over to tell me the story of, you know, this particular little town, right? And then someone would also say, “Hey, where are you staying tonight?” “I'm staying in my tent.” They said, “Oh, come stay with me.” So gradually, over time, I got to know America, and came to the conclusion when I had to make the decision to come back or not, that this country is really worth defending, that these people are hard-working, you know, that want to make the world better for their kids and their grandkids, and they deserve a United States Air Force, the best air force on the planet, to defend them. So, you know, when I came back my last two years, and I always love sharing this with cadets, because some of them are fighting it, some of them have embraced it. And all I tell them is, “Hey, I've done both. And all I can tell you is, the sooner you embrace it and find your purpose, this place is a lot more fun.” Naviere Walkewicz 35:13 Truth in that, yes, yes, well. And, Dr. Wilson, how did you know you were living your purpose? Dr. Heather Wilson 35:19 Well, I've had a lot of different chapters to my life. Yes, and we can intellectualize it on why we, you know, why I made a certain decision at a certain time, but there were doors that opened that I never even knew were there. But at each time and at each junction, there was a moment where somehow I just knew. And at South Dakota Mines is a good example. You know, I lost a race to the United States Senate. I actually had some interns — I benefited from a lousy job market, and I had fantastic interns, and we were helping them through the loss. You know, they're young. They were passionate. They, as Churchill said, “The blessing and the curse of representative government is one in the same. The people get what they choose.” And so I was helping them through that, and one of them said, “Well, Dr. Wilson, you're really great with students. You should be a college president somewhere. Texas Tech needs a president. You should apply there,” because that's where this kid was going to school. And I said, “Well, but I don't think they're looking for me.” But it did cause me to start thinking about it and I had come close. I had been asked about a college presidency once before, and I started looking at it and talking to headhunters and so forth. And initially, South Dakota Mines didn't seem like a great fit, because I'm a Bachelor of Science degree here, but my Ph.D. is in a nonscientific discipline, and it's all engineers and scientists. But as I went through the process, it just felt more and more right. And on the day of the final interviews, that evening, it was snowing in South Dakota, there was a concert in the old gym. I mean, this is an engineering school, and they had a faculty member there who had been there for 40 years, who taught choral music, and the students stood up, and they started singing their warm up, which starts out with just one voice, and eventually gets to a 16-part harmony and it's in Latin, and it's music is a gift from God, and they go through it once, and then this 40th anniversary concert, about 50 people from the audience stand up and start singing. It's like a flash mob, almost These were all alumni who came back. Forty years of alumni to be there for that concert for him. And they all went up on stage and sang together in this just stunning, beautiful concert by a bunch of engineers. And I thought, “There's something special going on here that's worth being part of,” and there are times when you just know. And the same with becoming cabinet secretary for children, youth and families — that was not in the plan and there's just a moment where I knew that was what I should do now. How I should use my gifts now? And you hope that you're right in making those decisions.   Naviere Walkewicz 38:43 Well, probably aligning with JD's point in the book of following your gut. Some of that's probably attached to you finding your purpose. Excellent. I'd like to visit the time Dr. Wilson, when you were helping President Bush with the State of the Union address, and in particular, you had grueling days, a lot of hours prepping, and when it was time for it to be delivered, you weren't there. You went home to your apartment in the dark. You were listening on the radio, and there was a moment when the Congress applauded and you felt proud, but something that you said really stuck with me. And he said, I really enjoy being the low-key staff member who gets stuff done. Can you talk more about that? Because I think sometimes we don't, you know, the unsung heroes are sometimes the ones that are really getting so many things done, but nobody knows. Dr. Heather Wilson 39:31 So, I'm something of an introvert and I've acquired extrovert characteristics in order to survive professionally. But when it comes to where I get my batteries recharged, I'm quite an introvert, and I really loved — and the same in international negotiations, being often the liaison, the back channel, and I did that in the conventional forces in Europe negotiations for the American ambassador. And in some ways, I think it might have been — in the case of the conventional forces in Europe negotiations, I was on the American delegation here. I was in Vienna. I ended up there because, for a bunch of weird reasons, then they asked me if I would go there for three months TDY. It's like, “Oh, three months TDY in Vienna, Austria. Sign me up.” But I became a very junior member on the delegation, but I was the office of the secretary of defense's representative, and walked into this palace where they were negotiating between what was then the 16 NATO nations and the seven Warsaw Pact countries. And the American ambassador turned to me, and he said during this several times, “I want you to sit behind me and to my right, and several times I'm going to turn and talk to you, and I just want you to lean in and answer.” I mean, he wasn't asking anything substantive, and I just, “Yes, sir.” But what he was doing was credentialing me in front of the other countries around that table. Now, I was very young, there were only two women in the room. The other one was from Iceland, and what he was doing was putting me in a position to be able to negotiate the back channel with several of our allies and with — this was six months or so now, maybe a year before the fall of the Berlin Wall. So things were changing in Eastern Europe, and so I really have always enjoyed just that quietly getting things done, building consensus, finding the common ground, figuring out a problem. Actually have several coffee mugs that just say GSD, and the other side does say, Get Stuff Done. And I like that, and I like people who do that. And I think those quiet — we probably don't say thank you enough to the quiet, hardworking people that just figure out how to get stuff done. Naviere Walkewicz 41:59 Well, I like how he credentialed you and actually brought that kind of credibility in that way as a leader. JD, how have you done that as a leader? Champion, some of those quiet, behind the scenes, unsung heroes. Gen. Dave Goldfein 42:11 I'm not sure where the quote comes from, but it's something to the effect of, “It's amazing what you can get done if you don't care who gets the credit.” There's so much truth to that. You know, in the in the sharing of success, right? As servant leaders, one of the things that I think both of us spend a lot of time on is to make sure that credit is shared with all the folks who, behind the scenes, you know, are doing the hard, hard work to make things happen, and very often, you know, we're the recipients of the thank yous, right? And the gratefulness of an organization or for somebody who's benefited from our work, but when you're at the very senior leaders, you know what you do is you lay out the vision, you create the environment to achieve that vision. But the hard, hard work is done by so many others around you. Today, in the audience when we were there at Polaris Hall, was Col. Dave Herndon. So Col. Dave Herndon, when he was Maj. Dave Herndon, was my aide de camp, and I can tell you that there are so many successes that his fingers are on that he got zero credit for, because he was quietly behind the scenes, making things happen, and that's just the nature of servant leadership, is making sure that when things go well, you share it, and when things go badly, you own it. Naviere Walkewicz 43:47 And you do share a really remarkable story in there about accountability. And so we won't spend so much time talking about that, but I do want to go to the point where you talk about listening, and you say, listening is not passive; it's active and transformative. As servant leaders, have you ever uncovered challenges that your team has experienced that you didn't have the ability to fix and you know, what action did you take in those instances? Dr. Heather Wilson 44:09 You mean this morning? All the time. And sometimes — and then people will give you grace, if you're honest about that. You don't make wild promises about what you can do, but then you sit and listen and work through and see all right, what is within the realm of the possible here. What can we get done? Or who can we bring to the table to help with a set of problems? But, there's no… You don't get a — when I was president of South Dakota Mines, one of the people who worked with me, actually gave me, from the toy store, a magic wand. But it doesn't work. But I keep it in my office, in case, you know… So there's no magic wands, but being out there listening to understand, not just listening to refute, right? And then seeing whether there are things that can be done, even if there's some things you just don't have the answers for, right? Gen. Dave Goldfein 45:11 The other thing I would offer is that as senior leadership and as a senior leadership team, you rarely actually completely solve anything. What you do is improve things and move the ball. You take the hand you're dealt, right, and you find creative solutions. You create the environment, lay out the vision and then make sure you follow up, move the ball, and if you get at the end of your tenure, it's time for you to move on, and you've got the ball moved 20, 30, yards down the field. That's actually not bad, because most of the things we were taking on together, right, were big, hard challenges that we needed to move the ball on, right? I If you said, “Hey, did you completely revitalize the squadrons across the United States Air Force?” I will tell you, absolutely not. Did we get the ball about 20, 30 yards down the field? And I hope so. I think we did. Did we take the overhaul that we did of officer development to be able to ensure that we were producing the senior leaders that the nation needs, not just the United States Air Force needs? I will tell you that we didn't solve it completely, but we moved the ball down the field, and we did it in a way that was able to stick. You know, very often you plant seeds as a leader, and you never know whether those seeds are going to, you know, these seeds are ideas, right? And you never know whether the seeds are going to hit fertile soil or rocks. And I would often tell, you know, young leaders too. I said, you know, in your last few months that you're privileged to be in the position of leadership, you've got two bottles on your hip. You're walking around with — one of them's got fertilizer and one of them's got Roundup. And your job in that final few months is to take a look at the seeds that you planted and truly determine whether they hit fertile soil and they've grown roots, and if they've grown roots, you pull out the fertilizer, and the fertilizer you're putting on it is to make it part of the institution not associated with you, right? You want somebody some years from now say, “Hey, how do we ever do that whole squadron thing?” The right answer is, “I have no idea, but look at how much better we are.” That's the right answer, right? That's the fertilizer you put on it. But it's just equally important to take a look at the ideas that, just for whatever reason, sometimes beyond your control — they just didn't stick right. Get out the Roundup. Because what you don't want to do is to pass on to your successor something that didn't work for you, because it probably ain't going to work for her. Dr. Heather Wilson 47:46 That's right, which is one of the rules of leadership is take the garbage out with you when you go. Naviere Walkewicz 47:51 I like that. I like that a lot. Well, we are — just a little bit of time left. I want to end this kind of together on a story that you shared in the book about laughter being one of the tools you share. And after we share this together, I would like to ask you, I know we talked about mirror checks, but what are some things that you guys are doing every day to be better as well, to continue learning. But to get to the laughter piece, you mentioned that laughter is an underappreciated tool and for leaders, something that you both share. I want to talk about the time when you got together for dinner before you began working as chief and service secretary, and I think you may have sung an AF pro song. We're not going to ask you to sing that today, unless you'd like to JD? But let's talk about laughter.   Gen. Dave Goldfein 48:31 The dean would throw me out. Naviere Walkewicz 48:33 OK, OK, we won't have you sing that today. But how have you found laughter — when you talk about — when the questions and the problems come up to you?   Dr. Heather Wilson 48:40 So I'm going to start this because I think Dave Goldfein has mastered this leadership skill of how to use humor, and self-deprecating humor, better than almost any leader I've ever met. And it's disarming, which is a great technique, because he's actually wicked smart. But it's also people walk in the room knowing if you're going to a town hall meeting or you're going to be around the table, at least sometime in that meeting, we're going to laugh. And it creates a warmth and people drop their guard a little bit. You get to the business a little bit earlier. You get beyond the standard PowerPoint slides, and people just get down to work. And it just — people relax. And I think Dave is very, very good at it. Now, my husband would tell you that I was raised in the home for the humor impaired, and I have been in therapy with him for almost 35 years.   Naviere Walkewicz 49:37 So have you improved? Dr. Heather Wilson 49:39 He thinks I've made some progress.   Naviere Walkewicz 49:41 You've moved the ball.   Dr. Heather Wilson 49:44 Yes. Made some progress. I still don't — I used to start out with saying the punch line and then explain why it was funny. Naviere Walkewicz 49:52 I'm in your camp a little bit. I try. My husband says, “Leave the humor to me.” Dr. Heather Wilson 49:54 Yeah, exactly. You understand. Gen. Dave Goldfein 49:58 I used to joke that I am a member of the Class of 1981['82 and '83]. I am the John Belushi of the United States Air Force Academy, a patron saint of late bloomers. But you know, honestly, Heather doesn't give herself enough credit for building an environment where, you know, folks can actually do their very best work. That's one of the things that we do, right? Because we have — the tools that we have available to be able to get things done very often, are the people that are we're privileged to lead and making sure that they are part of an organization where they feel valued, where we're squinting with our ears. We're actually listening to them. Where they're making a contribution, right? Where they believe that what they're being able to do as part of the institution or the organization is so much more than they could ever do on their own. That's what leadership is all about. Dr. Heather Wilson 51:05 You know, we try to — I think both of us see the humor in everyday life, and when people know that I have a desk plate that I got in South Dakota, and it doesn't say “President.” It doesn't say “Dr. Wilson.” It says, “You're kidding me, right?” Because once a week, more frequently as secretary and chief, but certainly frequently as a college president, somebody is going to walk in and say, “Chief, there's something you need to know.” And if they know they're going to get blasted out of the water or yelled at, people are going to be less likely to come in and tell you, right, what you need to know. But if you're at least willing to laugh at the absurdity of the — somebody thought that was a good idea, you know. My gosh, let's call the lawyers or whatever. But you know, you've just got to laugh, and if you laugh, people will know that you just put things in perspective and then deal with the problem. Naviere Walkewicz  52:06 Well, it connects us as humans. Yeah. Well, during my conversation today with Dr. Heather Wilson and Gen. Dave Goldfein — JD — two lessons really stood out to me. Leadership is not about avoiding the fall, but about how high you bounce back and how your recovery can inspire those you lead. It's also about service, showing up, doing the hard work and putting others before yourself with humility, integrity and working together. Dr. Wilson, Gen. Goldfein, thank you for showing us how courage, compassion and connection — they're not soft skills. They're actually the edge of hard leadership. And when you do that and you lead with service, you get back up after every fall. You encourage others to follow and do the same. Thank you for joining us for this powerful conversation. You can find Get Back Up: Lessons in Servant Leadership, wherever books are sold. And learn more at getbackupeadership.com. If today's episode inspired you, please share it with someone who can really benefit in their own leadership journey. As always, keep learning. Keep getting back up. Keep trying. I'm Naviere Walkewicz, Class of '99. This has been Focus On Leadership. Until next time. Producer This edition of Focus on Leadership, the accelerated leadership series, was recorded on Monday, Oct. 6, 2025.   KEYWORDS Leadership, servant leadership, resilience, humility, integrity, influence, teamwork, family, trust, listening, learning, purpose, growth, accountability, service, courage, compassion, balance, values, inspiration.     The Long Blue Line Podcast Network is presented by the U.S. Air Force Academy Association & Foundation  

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Andy starts with American University playing in the First Four tonight. Plus, Commanders WR Noah Brown resigns. (17:16) After much controversy over their inclusion, UNC boat races San Diego State in Dayton. (35:37) 59 years ago today, Texas El Paso defeats Kentucky in Cole Field House. (50:30) Gary Williams joins to talk about all the story lines heading into the tournament. To hear the whole show, tune in live from 9:00 AM - 11:00 AM Monday-Friday. For more sports coverage, download the ESPN630 AM app, visit https://www.sportscapitoldc.com. To join the conversation, check us out on twitter @ESPN630DC and @andypollin1See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

La escritora, poeta, docente y tallerista colombiana Andrea Cote coordina el programa de Escritura Creativa de la Universidad de TExas El Paso. Desde ahí conecta con su país para seguir promoviendo su literatura, como lo que hace con el libro Pájaros de sombra. Diecisiete poetas colombianas (1989-1964) en Vaso Roto. Su libro Puerto Calcinado (Universidad Externado de Colombia, 2003) es un parteaguas en la literatura sobre violencia en Colombia. Ha ganado numeerosos premios como Premio Nacional de Poesía de la Universidad Externado de Colombia en el año 2003, Premio Internacional de Poesía Puentes de Struga (2005), el Premio Cittá de Castrovillari Prize (2010) a Porto in Cenere, versión italiana de Puerto Calcinado, International Latino Book Award a la mejor antología poética (2020). Su último libro es Fervor de tierra. Poesía reunida 2003-2023 (Tusquets, 2024). *** The Colombian writer, poet, teacher, and workshop leader Andrea Cote coordinates the Creative Writing program at the University of Texas at El Paso. From there, she maintains a connection with her home country to continue promoting its literature, as seen in her work on the book Pájaros de sombra. Diecisiete poetas colombianas (1989-1964) published by Vaso Roto. Her book Puerto Calcinado (Universidad Externado de Colombia, 2003) marked a turning point in literature about violence in Colombia. She has won numerous awards, including the National Poetry Prize from Universidad Externado de Colombia (2003), the International Poetry Prize Puentes de Struga (2005), the Città di Castrovillari Prize (2010) for Porto in Cenere, the Italian version of Puerto Calcinado, and the International Latino Book Award for Best Poetry Anthology (2020). Her latest book is Fervor de tierra. Poesía reunida 2003-2023 (Tusquets, 2024).

These are the players the Tennessee football Volunteers should watch for on Saturday against the University of Texas El Paso. The Dave Hooker Show airs weekdays at 10am EST weekdays. Please turn notifications on! WATCH/SUB: https://linktr.ee/offthehooksports SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS The Dave Hooker Show. Represented by Banks and Jones. Tennessee's Trial Attorneys. Play to win. banksjones.com. Why Banks and Jones? Other lawyers say they'll go to trial. They won't. They'll settle. And settle for less. Banks and Jones is ready to go to trial for you. Truly Tennessee's trial attorneys. Why settle? Banks and Jones, led by T. Scott Jones. https://www.banksjones.com/ Apex Apparel Group Design Call to action - 15% off your first order Apex Apparel, but they do so much more. A one-stop shop for all brand supply products. Not just clothes. Design. Brand. Market. Your Way! Unique products to promote your business with unparalleled customer service. A full-on brand supply company. https://Orderapexapparel.com/ Call Tyler! (865)-919-3001 BetUS is your college basketball betting home. Get 125-percent bonus on your first three deposits. Plus 10-percent gambler's insurance. https://bit.ly/OffTheHook125SU3X Boundless Moving From our 2 hour Minimum to Turn Key Operations - We have You Covered! Brainerd Golf Course and Brown Acres Golf Course Golf Chattanooga's best public courses. Tee times available! Just click below. https://secure.east.prophetservices.c... Chattanooga Mortgage Congratulations! Your home search just got easier. Buying a home in Chattanooga has never been easier with Chattanooga Mortgage. https://chattmortgage.com/ City Heating and Air 50 years in East Tennessee. Integrity Matters! Don't trust a fly-by night HVAC company to tell you that you need a new unti that could cost thousands or more. http://www.cityheatandair.com Don Self - State Farm CUSTOMER SERVICE STILL MATTERS! For forty years, they have built their business on taking care of their customers. In the greater Chattanooga area. Call (423)396-2126 or go to http://www.donself.net Dynasty Pools and Spas Imagine having the best spas - made right here in the USA - in your backyard. Well, they're here! Now open, Dynasty Pools and Spas has their brand new showroom open in Athens with the best hot tubs and spas on the market. Delivery? Yes, they can do that. Complete support, spa cover and chemicals to keep your spa bubbling at it's best. That's Dynasty Pools and Spas. http://www.dynastypoolsandspas.com Hemp House The premier hemp dispensary online with a wide variety, great selection and strict standards to ensure you only receive the best in CBD or Delta products. https://hemphousechatt.com/ Use promo code "HOOKED" for 10-percent off. Quality Tire Pro The Eberle family has been serving Chattanooga community since 1957. All major brands of tires. Full Service Automotive. Brake, Alignments, Oil Changes and more. All work is covered by a nationwide warranty! Cherokee Blvd or online at qualitytirepros.com. Say OTH said “Hey Bo!” Ray Varner Ford Local you Trust. Innovation you can afford. http://www.rayvarnerford.com Rick Terry Jewelry Designs We want to be your Jeweler! Looking for affordable game-day jewelry. How about the fire opals? A Tennessee tradition. https://rickterryjewelry.com/ Sports Treasures Carrying Over 5-million Sports Treasures….and so much more! Follow on Facebook for the best sports memorabilia. Daily updates! / sportstreasurestn Tri-Star Hats For the latest in Tri-Star Hats, go to the orginal. Hats, apparel and more!!! http://www.tristarhatsco.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

These are the players the Tennessee football Volunteers should watch for on Saturday against the University of Texas El Paso.The Dave Hooker Show airs weekdays at 10am EST weekdays. Please turn notifications on! WATCH/SUB: https://linktr.ee/offthehooksportsSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSThe Dave Hooker Show. Represented by Banks and Jones. Tennessee's Trial Attorneys. Play to win. banksjones.com. Why Banks and Jones? Other lawyers say they'll go to trial. They won't. They'll settle. And settle for less. Banks and Jones is ready to go to trial for you. Truly Tennessee's trial attorneys. Why settle? Banks and Jones, led by T. Scott Jones. https://www.banksjones.com/Apex Apparel Group DesignCall to action - 15% off your first orderApex Apparel, but they do so much more. A one-stop shop for all brand supply products. Not just clothes. Design. Brand. Market. Your Way! Unique products to promote your business with unparalleled customer service. A full-on brand supply company. https://Orderapexapparel.com/ Call Tyler! (865)-919-3001BetUS is your college basketball betting home. Get 125-percent bonus on your first three deposits. Plus 10-percent gambler's insurance. https://bit.ly/OffTheHook125SU3XBoundless MovingFrom our 2 hour Minimum to Turn Key Operations - We have You Covered!Brainerd Golf Course and Brown Acres Golf Course Golf Chattanooga's best public courses. Tee times available! Just click below. https://secure.east.prophetservices.c...Chattanooga MortgageCongratulations! Your home search just got easier. Buying a home in Chattanooga has never been easier with Chattanooga Mortgage. https://chattmortgage.com/City Heating and Air50 years in East Tennessee. Integrity Matters! Don't trust a fly-by night HVAC company to tell you that you need a new unti that could cost thousands or more. http://www.cityheatandair.comDon Self - State FarmCUSTOMER SERVICE STILL MATTERS! For forty years, they have built their business on taking care of their customers. In the greater Chattanooga area. Call (423)396-2126 or go to http://www.donself.netDynasty Pools and SpasImagine having the best spas - made right here in the USA - in your backyard. Well, they're here! Now open, Dynasty Pools and Spas has their brand new showroom open in Athens with the best hot tubs and spas on the market. Delivery? Yes, they can do that. Complete support, spa cover and chemicals to keep your spa bubbling at it's best. That's Dynasty Pools and Spas. http://www.dynastypoolsandspas.comHemp HouseThe premier hemp dispensary online with a wide variety, great selection and strict standards to ensure you only receive the best in CBD or Delta products. https://hemphousechatt.com/ Use promo code "HOOKED" for 10-percent off.Quality Tire ProThe Eberle family has been serving Chattanooga community since 1957. All major brands of tires. Full Service Automotive. Brake, Alignments, Oil Changes and more. All work is covered by a nationwide warranty! Cherokee Blvd or online at qualitytirepros.com. Say OTH said “Hey Bo!”Ray Varner FordLocal you Trust. Innovation you can afford. http://www.rayvarnerford.comRick Terry Jewelry DesignsWe want to be your Jeweler! Looking for affordable game-day jewelry. How about the fire opals? A Tennessee tradition. https://rickterryjewelry.com/Sports TreasuresCarrying Over 5-million Sports Treasures….and so much more! Follow on Facebook for the best sports memorabilia. Daily updates! / sportstreasurestnTri-Star HatsFor the latest in Tri-Star Hats, go to the orginal. Hats, apparel and more!!! http://www.tristarhatsco.com

Well, the Huskers are 1-0. It's not much, except an improvement over several years of losing the first game of the season. And on top of that, 107 Huskers saw some sort of action in the 40-7 win over the University of Texas - El Paso. Dylan Raiola looked as advertised, as he went oan to be named the Big Ten Freshman of the Week. And the targets he found in the field, Isaiah Neyor, Jahmal Banks, and the rest, more than produced. Plus, Dante Dowdell, Emmett Johnson, Rahmir Johnson, and Gabe Ervin Jr all found success running the ball. The defense was crisp, allowing just 205 yards. Greg and Hoss break down the win, discuss the team's depth, and take a little look at this weekend's battle against Colorado.

Husker football opens its second season under head coach Matt Rhule on Saturday against the University of Texas El Paso at home. Tuesday, the athletic department unveiled some changes to the game day experience at Memorial Stadium.

This week on the Five Heart Podcast, it is officially game month. College football will be here be month's end, when the Nebraska Cornhuskers open the 2024 campaign against the University of Texas - El Paso.  As we get closer to gameday, we are delighted to discuss once and future Huskers. Adrian Martinez gets another shot at the NFL and Ndamukong Suh receives high marks about fifteen years too late.  Dylan Raiola welcomed the #1 offensive lineman prospect to Lincoln over the weekend and asked Husker Nation to turn out. 

Did you miss us? With the 2024 NFL Draft well in the rear view mirror, it's time for Ryan and Antony to gather their belongings and set off on the road to the 2024 College Football Season! Their first stop is the land of underdogs where an FCS rebellion is underway, Conference USA. After an exodus of teams to the American, the C-USA is finding new life with former FCS heavyweights, brand new FCS challengers making the move up, and future FCS contenders arriving in 2025. How does the conference and it's teams stack up heading in to 2024? Join the guys as they begin conference review season with the 10 challengers for the C-USA throne. Part 2 covers the 5 following teams; (The time the review begins is in brackets if you wish to listen to certain teams) Middle Tennessee State (05.00) New Mexico State (34.20) Sam Houston (1.08.10) University of Texas El Paso (1.36.00) Western Kentucky (2.08.15) Join Ryan and Antony as they go back to College! Explicit Language is in this Podcast. Facebook page: @Roarothelionsuk Facebook group: Detroit Lions Fans UK One Pride World Wide Twitter: @ROTL_UK Instagram: @ROTL.UK Twitch: rotl_uk YouTube: Roar Of The Lions UK Website: Rotluk.com (new merch store available via website)

An essential Baltimore bridge collapses after ship collision; University of Texas-El Paso targets teacher shortage; Queer churches in MA and nationwide offer all identities safe, sacred spaces; NY bill holds fashion industry accountable for climate-change impacts.

An essential Baltimore bridge collapses after ship collision; University of Texas-El Paso targets teacher shortage; Queer churches in MA and nationwide offer all identities safe, sacred spaces; NY bill holds fashion industry accountable for climate-change impacts.

University of Texas-El Paso targets teacher shortage; Trump's New York hush money case is set for trial April 15; Queer churches in Massachusetts and nationwide offer all identities safe, sacred spaces, New York bill holds fashion industry accountable for climate-change impacts.Podcast from March 26, 2024, on the Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network, online at heartlandnewsfeed.com, Spreaker, the Heartland Newsfeed Alexa radio skill, and other platforms. Now available on Google Assistant speakers!Listen Live: https://www.heartlandnewsfeed.com/listenliveFollow us on social mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/hlnfradionetworkTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/HLNF_BulletinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/heartlandnewsfeedMastadon: https://liberdon.com/@heartlandnewsfeedTikTok: https://tiktok.com/@heartlandnewsfeedDiscord: https://discord.gg/6b6u6DTSupport us with your financial supportStreamlabs: https://streamlabs.com/heartlandmediaPayPal: https://www.paypal.me/heartlandmediaSquare Cash: https://cash.app/$heartlandnewsfeedPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/heartlandnewsfeedCrypto via 1UpCoin: https://1upcoin.com/donate/heartlandmediaBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heartland-newsfeed-radio-network--2904397/support.

Happy Monday, friends! A new week means another new episode of The Way to College Podcast. This week, my guest is Tracy Cantu Almanzan. She is an attorney and Professor of Practice at the University of Texas-El Paso. Tracy is based in El Paso but her journey starts in the tiny south Texas community of Lytle. It was here that her dreams of college were nurtured by her family and other key people. Join me as we dive into Tracy's educational and professional journey. #podcast #latina #college #Trinity #UTEP #latinaleader #story #education #college #lytle

#152: Jeremiah Dickey is the Boise State University Athletic Director. Under Dickey's leadership Boise State has experienced tremendous success on and off the field and court. The Business Development and Revenue Innovation unit, Broncos United, and the Athletics Master Village are just a few of the many initiatives he has launched during his tenure in Boise. He is a great example of casting vision, working hard, building relationships, and getting things done. Prior to his time at Boise State he served as Associate Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics at Baylor University, as well as stops at the University of Houston, University of Akron, and the University of Texas El Paso. Dickey earned a bachelor's degree in sport management from the University of Texas and a master's of sport science and coaching from Akron.On the show he shares his story, getting into athletics, the importance of relationships, working hard, casting vision, plan the work and work the plan, leadership, making tough decisions, and much more.Enjoy the show!Boise State Athletics:https://broncosports.com/

Host Tim Z. Hernandez speaks with Rumi Sevilla Hernandez on this episode of the 3rd Story.Rumi is a fourth generation Latinx with roots in California, Texas, and Mexico. She's currently a student in the multi-media journalism program at the University of Texas El Paso. She has utilitized her artistic talents to create original videos, audio, music, and designs for flyers, art shows, and book covers. She lives in El Paso, Texas, and enjoys reading, coffee, and traveling.

Super excited to announce new guest, Maria Corley, to The Story!Maria Thompson Corley (BM, University of Alberta; MM, DMA, The Juilliard School) was born in Jamaica and raised in Canada. She has performed internationally, as both as a solo and collaborative artist, at venues including the Smithsonian Museum of African American History, Epidaurus Festival, Liszt Academy, Carnegie Recital Hall, and Aaron Davis Hall. Among her collaborators are Metropolitan Opera soprano Priscilla Baskerville, Juno Award-winning clarinetist James Campbell, Grammy-winning clarinetist Doris Hall-Gulati, Grammy-nominated baritone Randall Scarlata, renowned countertenor Darryl Taylor, and members of the New York Philharmonic and Philadelphia Orchestras. Her engagements as a soloist with orchestra include the Tallahassee Symphony Orchestra under the baton of Gunther Schuller. She and cellist Sara Male formed Duo Chiaroscuro in 2011; among their passions is performing concerts for people whose special needs prevent strict observance of concert protocols. Dr. Corley has recorded CD's for Naxos, Albany, MSR Classical, Navona, and independent labels. Excerpts from her discs have been featured on radio and digital platforms, nationally and internationally. Her recordings of selections from Valerie Capers' Portraits in Jazz were included in the HBO special, “Kebreeya's Salad Days,” her recording of Leslie Adams's “Etude in C Sharp Minor” was included in award-winning director Timothy Greenfield-Sanders's documentary, Toni Morrison: The Pieces I Am, and her performance of “Mother's Sacrifice” by L. Viola Kinney was selected for ABC's Women of the Movement: Mamie Till.A sought-after composer and arranger, her solo piano piece, “Lucid Dreaming,” was a semi-finalist in the 2021 international Fidelio competition, and her piece for trumpet and piano, “Helicity,” was the winner of the 2021 AMSONIA international competition's instrumental division. That same year, she was a co-recipient, with librettist Diana Solomon-Glover, of an Opera America IDEA grant. Her music has been commissioned, performed and/or recorded by several universities, Juventas New Music Ensemble, Canadian Art Song Project, Renaissance Winds, tubist Daniel Rowland, countertenor Darryl Taylor, mezzo-soprano Raehann Bryce-Davis, sopranos Nadine Benjamin, Sequina Dubose, Louise Toppin and Randye Jones, among others. She is published by Walton, North Star, Classical Vocal Reprints, and NoteNova. Her song cycle Grasping Water was added to the curricula at University of Michigan (Ann Arbor), Jackdaws Music Education Trust in the U.K., and University of California (Irvine). Her debut mini-opera, The Sky Where You Are, with a libretto by Jenny O'Connell, was part of the award-winning Decameron Opera Coalition's Tales from a Safe Distance. Her second mini-opera, The Place, with a libretto by Sandra Oyinloye, was written for DOC's subsequent production, Heroes. She is the librettist and composer of The Fox and the Cookie, a children's opera about The Golden Rule that world-premiered in 2023 at University of Texas El Paso.You can find Maria and her projects here:Website: https://mariacorley.com/Find The Story Podcast here: coryrosenproductions.com/podcastsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-story/donations

Traditionally, speech researchers have asked participants to classify speakers on a binary scale for gender. However, as our understanding of gender changes, so must our research methods. In this episode, we talk to Brandon Merritt (University of Texas - El Paso) about their research into updating research protocols to better encompass a diversity of genders and gain a more nuanced understanding of listeners' perception of speakers' identity.Associated paper: Brandon Merritt, Tessa Bent, Rowan Kilgore, and Cameron Eads. "Auditory free classification of gender diverse speakers" J. Acoust. Soc. Am. 155, ##-## (2024). https://doi.org/10.1121/10.0024521.Read more from The Journal of the Acoustical Society of America (JASA).Learn more about Acoustical Society of America Publications.Music Credit: Min 2019 by minwbu from Pixabay. https://pixabay.com/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=1022

Dez & Zane of Lesser Care join us on Episode 248. They talk about their Texas El Paso roots, dreamy post punk with an unrecognizable face, and the past, present, and future of Lesser Care.   Tune in. Enjoy. Listen to Lesser Care: https://linktr.ee/LesserCare?utm_source=linktree_profile_share

Crystal Nelson is a mixed-media artist based in the DFW area. She studied printmaking and painting at the University of Texas El Paso and recently retired from teaching art for over 25 years. In this college artist interview, Crystal shares seven ways to make shapes. Crystal often starts her work with collages by working out the color, shape, and textures. She uses a variety of methods to create exciting shapes in her work.Crystal recognized that she has a limited visual vocabulary after realizing she tends to repeat the same shape repeatedly and has investigated novel ways to discover new shapes. Number 1: Look at the packaging in your recycling bin and examine it for new shapes.Number 2: Cut plastic letter stencils in half to create fresh shapes.Number 3: Explore negative space around letter forms on stencils.Number 4: Before glazing, move the layer of transparent shapes around to see if they reveal a 3rd shape. Number 5: Paint your tissue paper with watered-down Golden Fluid and gel medium, and let it dry before using your stencils to cut out new shapes.Number 6: Use cheap Sulphite drawing paper and paint with sample house paint. Both paints are latex and work together. Extra tip: Use pre-painted Sulphite drawing paper to test placement. Number 7: Cut your shapes of old newsprint or porous book pages. According to Crystal, creating a story, whether layered or textured, is essential. Painting is a dance of adding and subtracting. At the end of the episode, Crystal reminds the listener, "In creativity, there is getting attention and paying attention," and there's room for both. Crystal has created art as long as she can remember, but for the last 4-5 years, she has primarily focused on making process-driven abstract art. She loves exploring intuitive abstract acrylic painting through textures, shapes, and color and finding the story within her surfaces. She teaches mixed media and Gelli printing workshops and recently curated the Deconstructed Exhibit for the Visual Arts League of Lewisville at the Lewisville Grand Theater. Crystal's motto is "Seek Beauty, Seek Truth". For more information, follow Crystal Nelson on Instagram @crysdnelson. For more information on CJ, follow him on Instagram @thespiritualartistpodcast or @cjmillerart 

Justin Lucero is artistic director of Theater Latté Da, in Minneapolis. In addition to nearly a dozen works directed for El Paso Opera,  Justin enjoys a robust freelance directing career for professional and academic stages, including past work with Abingdon Theatre Company, Pittsburgh Festival Opera, City Theatre (Pittsburgh), Creede Repertory Theatre, University of Texas El Paso, UTEP Dinner Theatre, the University of Houston, and Scaffolding Theatre, of which he was also Co-Founding Artistic Director.  As an assistant and associate director, he has worked with such major institutions as Oregon Shakespeare Festival, South Coast Rep, and Asolo Repertory Theatre under the mentorship of industry leaders including artistic director-producer Bill Rauch, director-playwright Lisa Peterson, director-choreographer Art Manke, artistic director Michael Donald Edwards, director-choreographer Peter Amster, Olivier-winning artistic director Timothy Sheader, Tony-winning playwright-director Mark Medoff, and Tony®-winning director-playwright Frank Galati.  Justin succeeded Theater Latté Da's founding artistic Director Peter Rothstein, who departed the organization at the end of June after 25 years of leadership, to assume a new role as producing artistic director of Asolo Repertory Theatre in Sarasota.

About Jake Logan:As the vice president for Institutional Advancement at UTEP, Jake Logan leads the dedicated teams in the areas of development, advancement services, and alumni engagement.He has more than 20 years of experience in non-profit fundraising, with more than 15 of those in higher education. Most recently, he served as president of the Ball State University Foundation and vice president for University Advancement, where he provided strategy and guidance for development, advancement services, alumni engagement, and the BSU Foundation, including managing the institution's endowment.Jake also served as assistant vice chancellor for University Programs at the University of Missouri, where he managed most of the university's central fundraising functions, as well as the endowments team.Other previous roles included executive director of development at the University of Oregon School of Law, and work as a development officer for his alma mater, the University of Florida, in the College of Agriculture and the College of Engineering.Jake began his career in philanthropy with the American Heart Association, earning national recognition for his pioneering work in online fundraising strategies. He ultimately became vice president for Field Development before leaving for academic advancement.He holds a Bachelor of Science in Public Relations from the University of Florida and a Master of Nonprofit Management from the University of Oregon.Since arriving at UTEP in May of 2020, he has made his home here in El Paso with his wife Sheena, their two children, Mills and Maisie, and their three dogs. Jake also has an older son named Max, a computer scientist who lives in the Austin, TX area.About Annie Quade: Following almost a decade in higher education advancement and a variety of roles that span the engagement pipeline, Annie Quade serves as the Assistant Vice President of Advancement Strategy, Talent & Culture at the University of Texas at El Paso (UTEP).Overseeing their integrated engagement team, talent, and people operations, Annie is responsible for enterprise engagement and the overall growth strategy for the division.Annie graduated from the University of Missouri, where she received a bachelor's degree in biology and a master's in public health. Prior to joining UTEP, she worked in frontline fundraising for her alma mater, first as a regional and planned giving officer and then as director for the School of Law.When she's not working, you can find Annie chasing after her two toddlers, tending to their hobby farm, or (hopefully) catching a few moments of quiet and calm with her husband, John.

Steed and Jrad are joined for the 27th time by Chubstep correspondent Vdog with their award winning segment ‘Smash or Pass' but this time it's with college mascots. They give you their in-depth take on everyone's favorite mascots like Artie the Artichoke from Scottsdale CC, Wheat Shocker from Wichita State, Big Red from Western Kentucky, Speedy the Geoduck from Evergreen State, the Stanford Tree, Paydirt Pete from the University of Texas El Paso, Sammy from the University of California Santa Cruz, and the Army Mules. Finally the guys get into the best investment you can make B!tc# Coin.

Beth Brunk Ph.D. is Dean of Extended University at the University of Texas at El Paso. Extended University supports Professional and Public Programs; the Center for Instructional Design; The Osher Lifelong Learning Institute; UTEP Connect, UTEP's suite of fully online degree programs; and the Office of Youth Program Development and Support. Dr. Brunk is professor of Rhetoric and Writing Studies and has served in several other administrative roles at UTEP including Director of First-Year Composition and Associate Dean of the College of Liberal Arts. A member of the inaugural class of University of Texas System Academy of Distinguished Teachers, Dr. Brunk is also a recipient of the University of Texas Academy Regents' Outstanding Teaching Award. Dr. Brunk has served on several national boards, task forces, and committees and has published in the areas of online teaching and learning, online collaboration, student retention and persistence, serving diverse student populations, and academic administration. She has served on nearly 40 dissertation committees and chaired 24 of them. She is PI, co-PI, or supporting staff on several awarded grants and gifts from the Department of Education, American Public and Land-Grant Universities, the University of Texas System, the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, and HCA. Dr. Brunk holds a Ph.D. in English from the University of Texas at Arlington, A Master of Arts in English from the University of Texas at El Paso, and a Bachelor of Arts degree in Mass Communications/Advertising from New Mexico State University. She previously taught at James Madison University.

In tonight's episode Craig is joined by DP World Tour & Challenge Tour professional Martin Leth Simonsen calling in from holiday in Texas! Martin is a pro since 2015 playing from Aalborg in Denmark the same place as Lucas Bjerregaard & a graduate of the University of Texas El Paso playing in the same fields as the likes of Jon Rahm, Jordan Spieth & Bryson DeChambeau. We learn of how Bryson would just come out with the most random stuff! A 2x European Am Team member for Denmark in 2014 at Linna in Finland & 2015 at Halmstad GC in Sweden losing in the final to Scotland that year. Martin alongside his good pal Niklas Norgaard & Nicolai Kristensen competed in the 2014 Eisenhower Trophy together in Japan with was won by USA (DeChambeau, Hossler & Denny McCarthy) other notables include Jon Rahm, Thomas Detry, the dangerous trio of Corey Conners, Taylor Pendrith & Adam Svensson as well as the 2 long sons of Italy Matteo Manassero & Guido Migliozzi. Martin reveals how Matteo was delighted for him winning his tour card even in his own struggles and is fastly the nicest guy on the tour and how great it is to have Manassero back playing well again! Martin would win Challenge Tour card in 2019 from the Nordic Golf League and a DP World Tour card in 2022 after finishing 14th overall in the Race to Mallorca standings for the season gaining full playing privileges on the DP World Tour for 2023 winning his only career title as a pro at Kaskada Golf Challenge in Prague at -20 beating the talented Marco Penge by 4 shots going wire to wire all the way! Although injuries and poor form happened in 2023 for Martin there is a sense of optimism that 2024 could be a great year on the challenge tour as Martin looks to win back his DP Tour Card for 2024/25 season! I hope you enjoy!

In this week's episode, Eric and Justin bring in their brother from another mother, Dr. Andrew Hunter, Director of Bands at the University of Texas El Paso. Dr. Hunter brings his convictions in this conversation about the concept of innovation in a world that can sometimes be caught up in tradition. This dialogue is filled with healthy, thought-provoking concepts to help the students we teach push to a greater destination as music makers. Listen and take notes on how this passionate and helpful episode can help you wherever you are in your journey.Please check out this week's episode to be encouraged and inspired. Enjoy and share!!! In Rotation:Eric- Marc Anthony & Pepe Aguilar "Ojala Te Duela"Justin- Jackson 5Andrew- Luke Comb's "Growing Up/Gettin' Old" & Dolly Parton's "Rockstar"Support the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

The DU Podcast visits with Dr. Brian Davis, Mississippi State University, and Dr. Phil Lavretsky, University of Texas El Paso, to discuss the latest discoveries in duck genetics and how these are changing our traditional view of mallard populations. New research shows westward expansion of game-farm mallard genes and reveals potential impacts on behavior, morphology, and potentially migration. So what's the big deal and how might this impact the future of waterfowl management? Listen in and find out!www.ducks.org/DUPodcast

Talk'n Throws with Samantha Hall- 2022 represented Jamaica at World Championships, 2021 PR Discus 206.6, Attended University of Texas El Paso 2014-2016, 2015 All American & set school discus record 191'11,  2015 Conference USA Discus Champion,  Finished 13th at NCAA Championships in DiscusTexas Track and Field Association Informative website for all things Texas Track and Field4Throws.com Family owned business offering all quality implements at reasonable prices. Code Talkinthrows10ReadyUp Athletic Development ReadyUP offers team consulting, semi-private & private strength and conditioning in the Austin area.Porta-Circle Making Throwing more accessible. Use the code“TEXAS4EVER” for 10% off.Big Frog of Colleyville Handles all printing and embroidery. FiberSport Discus We are taking the guess work out of discus selection. It is not just about rim weight. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.

As book bans become fashionable and favorable vs just outright discrimination, one of our own Librotraficantes has been deemed too controversial for K-12. Lupe Mendez, 2022 Texas Poet laureate and award winning author, has had his book "Why I Am Like Tequila?" banned at a Texas Panhandle school along with other BIPOC and LGBTQi+ books. Tony Diaz speaks with our hermano about why this happened, what this means, and what the next move is in the Librotraficante movement. Originally from Galveston, TX, Lupe Mendez (Writer // Educator // Activist) is the author WHY I AM LIKE TEQUILA (Willow Books, 2019), winner of the 2019 John A. Robertson Award for Best First Book of Poetry from the Texas Institute of Letters. He is the founder of Tintero Projects which works with emerging Latinx writers and other writers of color within the Texas Gulf Coast Region, with Houston as its hub. Lupe earned his Masters of Fine Arts from the University of Texas @ El Paso. Mendez's work can been seen in print and online formats including the Kenyon Review, Gulf Coast Journal, the Texas Review, the L.A. Review of Books, Split This Rock, Poetry Magazine and Poem-A-Day from the Academy of American Poets. Mendez is the 2022 Texas Poet Laureate. Follow Lupe on Twitter, at @thepoetmendez and on Instagram, at @ellupis. Tony Diaz Writer and activist Tony Diaz, El Librotraficante, is a Cultural Accelerator. He was the first Chicano to earn a Master of Fine Arts degree from the University of Houston Creative Writing Program. In 1998, he founded Nuestra Palabra: Latino Writers Having Their Say (NP), Houston's first reading series for Latino authors. The group galvanized Houston's Community Cultural Capital to become a movement for civil rights, education, and representation. When Arizona officials banned Mexican American Studies, Diaz and four veteran members of NP organized the 2012 Librotraficante Caravan to smuggle books from the banned curriculum back into Arizona. He is the author of The Aztec Love God. His book, The Tip of the Pyramid: Cultivating Community Cultural Capital, is the first in his series on Community Organizing. * This is part of a Nuestra Palabra Multiplatform broadcast. * Video airs on www.Fox26Houston.com. * Audio airs on 90.1 FM Houston, KPFT, Houston's Community Station, where our show began. * Live events. Thanks to Roxana Guzman, Multiplatform Producer Rodrigo Bravo, Jr., Audio Producer Radame Ortiez, SEO Director Marc-Antony Piñón, Graphics Designer Leti Lopez, Music Director Bryan Parras, co-host and producer emeritus Liana Lopez, co-host and producer emeritus Lupe Mendez, Texas Poet Laureate, co-host, and producer emeritus Writer and activist Tony Diaz, El Librotraficante, hosts Latino Politics and News and the Nuestra Palabra Radio Show on 90.1 FM, KPFT, Houston's Community Station. He is also a political analyst on “What's Your Point?” on Fox 26 Houston. He is the author of the forthcoming book: The Tip of the Pyramid: Cultivating Community Cultural Capital. www.Librotraficante.com www.NuestraPalabra.org www.TonyDiaz.net Nuestra Palabra is funded in part by the BIPOC Arts Network Fund. Instrumental Music produced / courtesy of Bayden Records Website | baydenrecords.beatstars.com

City Lights presents Tim Z. Hernandez in conversation with Peter Maravelis, the City Lights events manager. Tim Z. Hernandez reads from his new collection “Some of the Light: New and Selected Poems,” published by Beacon Press/Raised Voices Series. This was a virtual event. You can purchase copies of “Some of the Light: New and Selected Poems” directly from City Lights here: https://citylights.com/some-of-the-light-new-sel-poems/ Tim Z. Hernandez is an award-winning author, research scholar, and performer. His work includes poetry, fiction, non-fiction, and screenplays. He is the recipient of numerous awards, most notably the American Book Award, the Colorado Book Award, and the International Latino Book Award. His work has been featured in the “Los Angeles Times,” “The New York Times,” “C-Span,” and NPR's “All Things Considered.” “Public Radio International” hailed his book, “Mañana Means Heaven,” as one of their 2013 Books of the Year. In 2011, he was named one of sixteen New American Poets by the Poetry Society of America, and most recently he was recognized for his research on locating the victims of the 1948 plane wreck at Los Gatos Canyon, the incident made famous by Woody Guthrie's song of the same name, which is chronicled in his documentary novel, “All They Will Call You.” Hernandez holds a BA from Naropa University and an MFA from Bennington College, and is an associate professor with the University of Texas El Paso's bilingual MFA in creative writing. He lives in El Paso, Texas, with his two children. This event was made possible by support from the City Lights Foundation: citylights.com/foundation

On the latest episode of the Rex Chapman Show with Josh Hopkins, the guys are joined by Hall of Fame Member Class of 2022, Tim Hardaway. After a long career, Tim looks back on growing up in Chicago and why it's been a hotbed of NBA talent. Now as a parent of an NBA star, he talks about teaching the game of basketball to the next generation. 11:00 - Rex and Tim talk about joining forces in Miami and the incredible night Rex had against Michael Jordan and the Bulls. 12:45 - It was unusual to have a scoring point guard until Tim Hardaway came into the NBA. How did he balance being a scorer vs a facilitator for his teammates? 16:00 - Who does Rex think is the best comparison in the NBA right now for Tim Hardaway? 19:00 - Tim compares playing for Pat Riley in Miami to when he entered the league with the Warriors, with Run TMC. 23:00 - Tim discusses growing up on the South Side of Chicago, and talks about the heated rivalries with the West Side. 26:45 - Top 5 South side vs West Side Chicago Basketball OUT - Josh "I Admire you trying to answer it" 31:00 - When did Tim Hardaway get the basketball bug? It goes back to watching his Dad, a Chicago playground legend. 41:30 - What were some of the core memories Tim had as a kid growing up? It was always playing some kind of ball, whether that was basketball, football baseball, or soccer. 49:50 - Tim remembers Benji Wilson, and the tragedy around his murder. It was as if the President of Chicago had been killed. 52:30 - How did Tim Hardaway end up at the University of Texas El Paso? It's a pretty far way from Chicago. 56:00 - Once he made the NBA, Tim had to put the teams on notice that passed on him that it would be their biggest mistake. 48:30 - Where would the NBA be today without Tim Hardaway's crossover? 49:30 - The origin story of the UTEP Two Step 55:00 - Is it more gratifying or difficult having a son playing in the NBA? What would Dad have done if he had Jr's height? 55:00 - Tim "If I was 6-foot-6 I would be an MVP every year" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the '3rd Story,' host Tim Z. Hernandez  breaks down Gen Z facts with special guests Rumi Sevilla-Hernandez and Randy Barraza.  Sevilla-Hernandez is a fourth generation Latinx student raised in California, Colorado and El Paso. She is currently an undergraduate majoring in multimedia journalism at the University of Texas El Paso.  Barraza is a first generation Latinx student raised in  New Mexico, Arizona, and El Paso. He is currently an undergraduate majoring in political science at the University of Texas El Paso. 

Lea A. Ellermeier is the President of SheepMedical USA, a wholly owned subsidiary of SheepMedical Ltd, the #1 Japanese orthodontic aligner manufacturer. She is a serial entrepreneur who has co-founded and served as CEO of three dental technology companies 2C MedTech, REPLICATE Dental Technologies and Lingualcare, Inc. Lingualcare was purchased by 3M Company in November, 2007.  Post-acquisition, she was president of 3M's Lingualcare subsidiary and a member of the management operating committee of 3M Unitek. Lea has spent her career building disruptive technologies with executive roles at OraMetrix, acquired by Dentsply (NYSE:XRAY) AutoTester, partially acquired by Compuware, now BMC Compuware and marketing and international sales roles at  XTRA On-Line, Micrografx and GeoWorks.  Lea earned a B.A. in Political Science (Cum Laude) from the University of Texas El Paso and an M.B.A. from Thunderbird, School of Global Management in Glendale, AZ. Lea is a mentor at Tech Wildcatters and Health Wildcatters and has served on the board of TeXchange. She frequently speaks at start-up technology and healthcare forums and is a guest lecturer at SMU's Cox School of Business, University of Texas Dallas and Dallas public schools. Lea is also a painter and a writer. Her first book, Finding the Exit; It's Not Where You Start, It's Where You Finish, was published in 2018. Lea's art can be viewed on Instagram @leaellermeier.

Our guest this week is Rhode Island running legend Hollie Walton.  As fate would have it Hollie just happened to be a freshman at Hope High School where Bobby Doyle and Ted McLaughlin were beginning their legendary careers.  Before the two began to influence his stellar career, Hollie somehow missed the running portion of the Presidential Physical Fitness Test and was about to flunk gym class his freshman year!  Fortunately the physical education teacher found him in the gym shooting baskets and convinced him to finish the test with a one mile run on the track.  With borrowed sneakers that were two sizes too big and dress pants, Hollie cruised through the mile in 4:50 and the rest is history.  We hope you enjoy this episode as Hollie recounts his epic career from Hope High School, Johnson & Wales, University of Texas El Paso and back to J&W as a club runner.

This is season seven, public policy in action, where we will explore public policy issues impacting higher education today and how this will impact the work that you do on a daily basis. This week on SA Voices From the Field we interviewed Kimberly Steed-Page about some of the unique issues that student parents are dealing with as well as looking at policy and best practice concerns when it comes to the needs of these students.  A higher education professional with over 20 years of experience, Kimberly Steed-Page believes that when student parents succeed, their children and families succeed. Diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging center her work at MSU. As director of the MSU Student Parent Resource Center, she is dedicated to helping college students, children and families reach their greatest potential. Her goals as director are to increase campus and community awareness of student families and their experiences at MSU, expand services and support for student families, improve outreach to area schools and teen parents regarding college opportunities; and to engage  student families in advocacy. Kim earned her bachelor's degree in social work from the University of Texas El Paso and master's in social work from Michigan State University. She is also a clinical faculty member in the MSU School of Social Work and teaches  a variety of social work courses. Kim balances work with raising two boys, Bryson age 8, and Jayden, 17 with her husband, Rodney.   Please subscribe to SA Voices from the Field on your favorite podcasting device and share the podcast with other student affairs colleagues!

Heather Wilson, the current President of the University of Texas-El Paso, and former Secretary of the Air Force, has had a distinguished life in public service. In this conversation, Josh and Henry discuss her childhood desire to be a pilot, military service, experience in Congress, and the lessons she's learned from working in higher education.

Larry Lesser PhD is a professor of mathematics at the University of Texas - El Paso and is one of the nation's leading experts (and most fun guests) on the subject of lottery math. Larry has been on the air with me a couple of times before but it's been a few years so I'm psyched to have him back to answer your questions as we head into one of the biggest lottery drawings in American history with Friday's Mega Millions pot of slightly over $1 BILLION (though if you take all the money at once, you'd get something like $600 million before tax.) At the end of this blog note, check out Larry's great song, "The Gambler", about lottery math.

Today's episode is brought to you by Tableau, an industry leader committed to enabling 10 million people with data skills over the next five years.   As part of our Tableau series on the importance of data skills in education, and more specifically for BIPOC students, your host Ralph Newell sits down with Vanessa G. Leon from the University of Texas El Paso's College of Business Administration and Allen Hillery, vice president of communities and impact at Data Stories.   Hear from Leon, who is responsible for overseeing the partnerships and programming for three of the college's corporate academies and is kicking off their data skills journey. Hillery empowers people and communities around the world to eliminate misinformation and create positive change using words, data, and visualizations.   Don't miss this informative discussion on the necessity of data literacy, why students of color got left behind in data science, and the immediate need to bring data skills into education.   KEY POINTS: - What is data and how is it used by companies and organizations? - Why is data science so important for BIPOC students? - How to bring data literacy into K-12 education and communities - Supporting BIPOC students in fields where there is little to no representation  - The importance of business intelligence and communication skills - Tableau's initiatives to help their students “catch up” in data science    QUOTABLES: “It's also educating the students because half of the challenge is seeing yourself. A lot of times you don't see yourself, so you don't understand what you could be there.” “What's been opening doors for us in a lot of fields are alumni. There's always that one student that did not think that they could get a job at Microsoft, right, but they land that job. And now they become an advocate.”   GUEST RESOURCES: Tableau: Business Intelligence and Analytics Software Data Stories: Home | DataStories a Partners in Performance Company   PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here.         In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

On this episode of The Fowl Talk Podcast host Sam Porter has special guest Philip Lavretsky a biologist from the University of Texas El Paso, on to talk about his studies of  Mexican Ducks, Mottled Duck, Mallards, and Black Ducks. Mexican Mallards are expanding their range and interbreeding with Mottled Ducks and Mallards. Philip has a very interesting job allowing him to go on "research" trips where the harvest specimens in late spring to study.Support the show

Our guest today is a founding member of The PICTOR Group. The Pictor Group's mission is to assist intercollegiate athletics programs, athletics conferences and sports organizations to Rethink, Refocus, Recalibrate. The leadership team includes three former NCAA Division I Athletics Directors and a Division I Conference Commissioner. Our Team offers a unique blend of exceptional talent, expertise, and experience. Sandy Hatfield Clubb PICTOR President joins Richie to “PAINT' the constellation for visionary and ethical leadership.E-MAIL… shclubb@thepictorgroup.comLinkedIn… https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandy-hatfield-clubb-62b3698/Twitter… @Sandy_H_ClubbWEBSITE… www.thepictorgroup.comSandy Hatfield Clubb joined the The PICTOR Group in August 2017 after an 11-year tenure as Athletics Director at Drake University where she was named the 2013-14 Under Armor Athletics Director of the Year for the Football Championships Subdivision. Sandy has 28 years of intercollegiate athletics leadership experience at the NCAA Division I level. As the Athletics Director at Drake University, Sandy earned a national reputation as a leading voice for a transformative model of NCAA Division I athletics that aligns athletic excellence with the academic mission of an institution. Prior to moving to Drake University, Sandy spent 16 years in various top leadership and management roles in athletics administration at Arizona State University.Selected by her Missouri Valley Conference peers, Sandy served as a member of the inaugural Division I Council and as the first-ever Chairperson for the Strategic Vision and Planning Committee. She has served in numerous other national leadership roles including as a member of the Division I Values-Based Revenue Distribution Working Group, Division I Men's Basketball Issues Committee, and on the governing board of Women Leaders in College Sports. She also served on the Board of Directors for the United Way in Central Iowa and the Greater Des Moines Community Foundation.Sandy is a certified Talent Optimization Specialist and a member of the Humanlytics Team, a licensee of the Predictive Index. She currently serves as a member of the Knight Commission on the Intercollegiate Athletics consulting team.Sandy earned a Bachelor of Business Administration and a Master of Education in Kinesiology, Health, and Sport Studies from the University of Texas El Paso. In 2009, she was named the College of Health Science Gold Nugget, an award recognizing exceptional graduates who have given back to their communities and served as an inspiration for future generations of Miners.

Dan Wetzel takes us into the gray netherworld of sports, where some writers aren't willing to tread. We discuss how his experiences covering college basketball and AAU taught him to look beyond cliches. Hear about characters such as Sonny Vaccaro, Jerry Tarkanian and others who were easily cast into roles for a simple narrative. Dan puts us in the media room when John Chaney threatened to kill John Calipari. And the Yahoo Sports national columnist describes the tensions and emotions that existed in the court rooms when he covered the trials of Aaron Hernandez and Larry Nassar. Wetzel is the author of these books: · “Sole Influence: Basketball, Corporate Greed and the Corruption of America's Youth” with Don Yaeger of Sports Illustrated · “Glory Road” with former University of Texas-El Paso basketball coach Don Haskins · “Runnin' Rebel: Shark Tales of ‘Extra Benefits,' Frank Sinatra, and Winning It All” with former UNLV basketball coach Jerry Tarkanian. · “Resilience: Faith, Focus, Triumph” with Alonso Mourning · “Death to the BCS: The Definitive Case Against the Bowl Championship Series” with Josh Peter and Jeff Passan   And he has written several sports biographies for children as part of the Epic Athletes series : · Stephen Curry · Alex Morgan · Serena Williams · Tom Brady · LeBron James · Lionel Messi · Simone Biles · Kevin Durant · Patrick Mahomes · Zion Williamson   Follow him on Twitter (@DanWetzel) and Instagram (wetzelsports). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Latino Bookstore & Gift Shop is proud to continue its Texas Author Series Friday, June 3, 2022, at 6 pm, with free admission. The 2022 Texas Author Series is kicked off by Texas Poet Laureate Lupe Mendez who will present his collection. of poetry titled Why I Am Like Tequila. "I am thrilled to be a part of this literary movement in San Antonio!" Mendez said. He added, "The Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center has always been a beacon of hope and art in a city as proud as San Antonio. From theater to poetry, I've had amazing experiences with that space, so of course, I am damn proud to be able to share my work at its new bookstore. Whenever we can get together to celebrate each other‘s work, this is what resistance can look like, especially in a state where partisan politics looks to control what people read and what people study. I will always be here, con un Libro en la Mano.," About Lupe Mendez: Originally from Galveston, TX, Lupe Mendez (Writer//Educator//Activist) is the author WHY I AM LIKE TEQUILA (Willow Books, 2019), winner of the 2019 John A. Robertson Award for Best First Book of Poetry from the Texas Institute of Letters. He is the founder of Tintero Projects which works with emerging Latinx writers and other writers of color within the Texas Gulf Coast Region, with Houston as its hub. Lupe earned his Masters of Fine Arts from the University of Texas @ El Paso. Mendez's work can be seen in print and online formats including the Kenyon Review, Gulf Coast Journal, the Texas Review, the L.A. Review of Books, Split This Rock, Poetry Magazine and Poem-A-Day from the Academy of American Poets. Mendez is the 2022 Texas Poet Laureate. Follow Lupe on Twitter, at @thepoetmendez and on Instagram, at @ellupis The evening will be hosted by Tony Diaz, El Librotraficante, Literary Curator of the Latino Bookstore. He said, “The Latino Bookstore brings together so many legacies. Lupe Mendez is an alum of Nuestra Palabra: Latino Writers Having Their Say, which I founded in Houston, Texas. He first read in public at our events. Now, he is recognized statewide. for his work. it is thrilling for the Latino Bookstore to unite all Texans to celebrate our culture and books.” Cristina Balli, Director of the Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center, which houses the Latino Bookstore, said, “This is the kind of event and the caliber of talent that we want to showcase all year long at the Latino Bookstore. We want the West Side, San Antonio, and all of Texas to experience the power of Latino Literature at their fingertips." The Latino Bookstore's Texas Author Series takes place every First Friday. Subsequent authors will represent the entire state of Texas. Their work also touches on many other aspects of Latino culture, Mexican American History, and the other art fields that the GCAC specializes in. Additional programming includes community readings for local authors on Saturdays. The Mexican American Studies Series And more! Friday, June 3, 2022, 6 pm: Texas Poet Laureate Lupe Mendez with his collection Why I Am Like Tequila. Friday, July 1, 2022, 6 pm: California & Texas Unite for the Latina Tri-City Tour featuring Claudia Castro Luna author of Cipota Under the Moon & Ire'ne Lara Silva author of Hibiscus Tacos. Friday, August 5, 2022, 6 pm: Writer and activist, Tony Diaz, El Librotraficante presents his new book The Tip of the Pyramid: Cultivating Community Cultural Capital. Friday, September 2, 2022, 6 pm: Writer, poet, translator, and performer Jasminne Mendez presents her new book City Without Altar. The Latino Bookstore is open Tuesday through Saturday: 10 am to 6 pm. 1300 Guadalupe Part of the Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center. https://guadalupeculturalarts.org/

Nuestra Palabra Presents Poetry Spotlight with 2022 Texas Poet Laureate Lupe Mendez; listen to him from his book "WHY I AM LIKE TEQUILA" and from his new writings. This is a Nuestra Palabra Multi-Platform Broadcast across social media. You can hear us on 90.1 FM KPFT, Houston's Community Station. You can watch us at www.Fox26Houston.com Originally from Galveston, TX, Lupe Mendez (Writer // Educator // Activist) is the author WHY I AM LIKE TEQUILA (Willow Books, 2019), winner of the 2019 John A. Robertson Award for Best First Book of Poetry from the Texas Institute of Letters. He is the founder of Tintero Projects which works with emerging Latinx writers and other writers of color within the Texas Gulf Coast Region, with Houston as its hub. Lupe earned his Masters of Fine Arts from the University of Texas @ El Paso. Mendez's work can been seen in print and online formats including the Kenyon Review, Gulf Coast Journal, the Texas Review, the L.A. Review of Books, Split This Rock, Poetry Magazine and Poem-A-Day from the Academy of American Poets. Mendez is the 2022 Texas Poet Laureate. Follow Lupe on Twitter, at @thepoetmendez and on Instagram, at @ellupis. Thanks to Roxana Guzman, Multiplatform Producer Rodrigo Bravo, Jr., Audio Producer Radame Ortiez, SEO Director Marc-Antony Piñón, Graphics Designer Leti Lopez, Music Director Bryan Parras, co-host and producer emeritus Liana Lopez, co-host and producer emeritus Lupe Mendez, Texas Poet Laureate, co-host, and producer emeritus Writer and activist Tony Diaz, El Librotraficante, hosts Latino Politics and News and the Nuestra Palabra Radio Show on 90.1 FM, KPFT, Houston's Community Station. He is also a political analyst on “What's Your Point?” on Fox 26 Houston. He is the author of the forthcoming book: The Tip of the Pyramid: Cultivating Community Cultural Capital. www.Librotraficante.com www.NuestraPalabra.org www.TonyDiaz.net

Know Justice Know Peace is the title of Dr. Deborah Egerton's upcoming book, but it is also the way she has lived her life.  Deborah joins us this week on the podcast to share her incredible journey from child model in New York, to starting a runaway shelter in El Paso and a high school placement program in Germany, to being a thought leader on equity and inclusion.  Deborah has deep expertise in the Enneagram and believes it is a path to self knowledge, freedom, and healing our fractured society.  She has lived her life seeking justice for people around the world and works tirelessly to help people find peace within themselves.   Dr. Deborah Egerton, Founder and President of Trinity Transition Consultants, is an internationally respected psychologist and executive coach who is often described as an unforgettable thought-leader. Her work in the diversity, equity, and inclusion space is legendary. “Dr. E”, as she is affectionately known, is an inspirational Enneagram JEDI (justice, equity, diversity, inclusion) who teaches the Enneagram for introspective self-discovery. Additionally, she has been a trailblazer in developing ways to integrate the Enneagram into her work as a social justice warrior. She facilitates career growth and personal development with individuals and organizations by focusing her efforts on respecting the uniqueness of every individual and honoring their humanity. Her goal is to cultivate a world-wide community of socially responsible cultural allies.   She holds a BA in Mass Communications from the University of Texas El Paso, an MA in Counseling Psychology, Webster University, and a Ph.D. in Health Sciences from Saba University, Netherlands Antilles. Know Justice Know Peace - will be released on Sep 6, 2022 - available for pre order now on Deborah's website:  https://www.deborahegerton.com/

Material take-back programs for 3D printing are on the rise, as are technology advances geared toward recycling used prints and scrap into printable feedstock. Hosts Stephanie Hendrixson and Julia Hider discuss recent news and examples of recycling for 3D printing. Then, they look at examples of animals that have benefited from 3D printing and explore how these applications mirror and advance those in the human and industrial worlds.   This episode is brought to you by PTXPO.   Mentioned in this episode: Roboze take-back program Kimya and Armor Group's circular additive manufacturing strategy for polymers IC3D, printer manufacturer, parts producer, filament supplier and recycler GreenGate3D, producer of PETG filament from industrial waste 6K Additive, materials processer using mechanical milling and microwave plasma to create metal AM powders Metal Powder Works, creator of a fully mechanical powder production process Images of the animal applications discussed in this episode on Instagram or our website The Cool Parts Show episode on the enrichment device produced for the Cincinnati Zoo GE Addworks, which produced the device Sprocket the cat, recipient of a Formlabs-printed brace ActiveArmor, a company offering custom 3D printed casts for humans Patches the dog, a Dachshund that received the first known custom 3D printed cranial plate made for a canine An episode of The Cool Parts Show on a similar implant, a custom scapula for a human Meticuly, a company that has developed software tools to automate implant design Rattlesnake research at the University of Texas El Paso supported by 3D printed models Eve, a tripod dog who received a 3D printed limb prosthetic created by DiveDesign and Bionic Pets Additive America's work on custom 3D printed orthoses and prostheses Finalists in The Cool Parts Showcase including a scoliosis brace and a prosthetic socket

Tim Z. Hernandez is an award-winning writer, research scholar, and performer. The author of three collections of poetry, two novels, and a work of non-fiction, his work has been featured in the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, C-Span's Book TV, and NPR's All Things Considered. His most recent book, All They Will Call You, the first installment of “The Plane Crash Series,” was released in 2017, and received critical acclaim by the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, and other media outlets. Hernandez holds a B.A. from Naropa University and an M.F.A. from Bennington College. He is an Associate Professor at the University of Texas-El Paso's Bilingual M.F.A. program in Creative Writing, and he divides his time between California and El Paso, Texas where he lives with his two children. You can find more info at www.timzhernandez.com Five Song Playlist 1. Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate (Live Session) 2. Allison Russell - Nightflyer (Official Music Video) 3. Benjamin Booker - Witness (Live at Columbus Theatre) 4. Phosphorescent - "My Beautiful Boy" 5. Jim James - Here in Spirit (Live at WFUV) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/staysuckafree/support

LTC Chaveso “Chevy” Cook and his wife Ashley are from Columbia, SC. She is his high-school sweetheart and a personal trainer. Their most important triumphs are being together for over two decades and their beautiful daughters London and Lola. LTC Cook commissioned from the United States Military Academy (USMA) at West Point, NY. His career began as an Air Defense Artillery officer in 3-4 ADAR (A), 82nd ABN DIV, Fort Bragg, NC. After selection and training he branched Psychological Operations (PSYOP), spending his initial special operations career in 8th PSYOP BN (A) at Fort Bragg. Afterward LTC Cook returned to USMA as a Tactical Officer (D4). Fortuitously he also became an instructor in the Department of Behavioral Sciences and Leadership. Returning to Fort Bragg he commanded D Co, 3rd PSYOP BN (A)(D) and then served as S3 for 7th PSYOP BN (A). During his career he has deployed during “The Surge”, the “Arab Spring”, and the fight against ISIS, in positions ranging from Battery XO up to Task Force J3 (Operations). These and other operational experiences span Iraq (x3) Qatar (x2), Niger, Jordan, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Tajikistan, and the United Arab Emirates. LTC Cook is completing his PhD at Tufts University where he studies Human Development. LTC Cook's civilian education includes degrees from USMA (2004), the University of Texas-El Paso (2008), and Columbia University (2013). Of his professional memberships his non-profit role as co-founder and Executive Director of MilitaryMentors.org allows him to uniquely serve others outside of the uniform. He has guest spoken and been widely published on topics of social justice, character, leadership, organizational change, diversity, in extremis leader development, inclusion, innovation, mentorship, and a range of other professional development topics. He has fulfilled all the military education required of an officer and a PSYOP professional, including SERE-C (High Risk), Advanced Airborne School, Military Deception Planners Course, and the Information Operations Capabilities/Applications Course. Of his awards and decorations, he is most proud of his two Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medals for sustained community and organizational investment, his branch's Major General Robert McClure Medal (Bronze), and the 2016 Secretary of the Army Diversity and Leadership Award, given to one officer yearly for commitment to equal opportunity practices, Army Values and the professional development of others.

Hey, welcome. Thanks for hanging out with us. This is the it and the D show. We are broadcasting live from our homes and from the bar. Um, this is Bob, the sales guy, Dave, the geek, uh, Randy, I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters, uh, guests this week include, we got the Mikey from the old shillelagh downtown, and we got August in the house, old friend from whiskey in the jar and Hamtramck. We’re going to be talking about life behind the bar, and now that things are slowly opening up. And then also we’ve got a ton of stories going on. We’ve got his big boys gone forever. We’re running out of pennies and Dave, you may fire when ready? Wait, wait. I don’t think we can get started until I get some shredded cheese for my fajitas. Oh, good Lord.       Alright, go ahead, Bob. Hey, welcome. What is going on? This is the it and the d show. Can we still call it the it in the d show, we got to rename it. And at some point, Judy, Bob did, I’ve been, I’ve been lobbying for two and a half geeks for four years now. Can you still be Dave? I don’t know. We’ll figure that out later. This is episode three 54. We are broadcasting live from either our quarantine homes or the bars in one of them in Hamtramck. This is Bob, the sales guy that is Dave. The geek Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter. You can find us online at [inaudible] dot com. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. We, uh, and again, we’ve talked about this before. Uh, we are, uh, Lee, we’re leaving events out, uh, until August, no pun intended. Uh, and we’ll, we’ll be bringing them back then. We’ll do something outside and yeah. So that’s, that’s the update there. So yeah. Hey, just like we just introduced earlier, we have two illustrious guests, friends of ours for very, very long time. Both of them bartenders, we kind of want to do, uh, discuss, um, what life was like a behind the bar. We, we, you know, a few of us have been to the bar, but, uh, joining us is, uh, Mikey from the old Shalala downtown Detroit, sir. How have you been, haven’t seen you in awhile? Uh, I’ve been well, man, uh, just getting used to this non quarantine stuff and living the life and working, uh, dealing with all of the wonderful public. And then now this is a, it’s actually a first for the show. We’ve been doing this for what? Seven years. We haven’t had anyone ever calling live from the bar. August gets legs in the house. I mean, we’ve, we’ve done live broadcasts from bars, but we got August in the house. He is actually tending bar right now at whiskey and a jar down in Hamtramck, sir. How you doing? You’re on mute bud August. I’m actually not working tonight, but I figured it’d be fun to come here and show you just exactly what we’re looking at These days at afar in Hamtramck. Uh, ms. Katie is pretty much by herself with a few people outside, a couple of regulars. And that’s about the state of the world down here. Yeah. So odd. I’ll start things off with you like life behind the bar. Like, so I started trickling into a few bars. I live out everyone, you know, I live on Rochester Hills, Auburn Hills, um, the bars out here pretty much business as usual. Um, a couple of them took out a couple of tables. Most of them like the open air ones in Rochester Hills are still the same. Dave was telling stories about going to, uh, with down a Cass corridor. They haven’t set up like a, like a seven mile gas station with a plastic barricades and little, little windows. So some people are taking it to huge extreme, some people aren’t, I guess what’s your take on, I guess, the new normal behind the bar? Well, it really depends on where you are. Like I went up to a bar in McComb County last week. I walked in and right walked right the hell out. Any place where you can buy beer by the bucket seems to not be following any protocols. There was no hand sanitizer around the same amount of bar stools. They might have tables. They don’t mind everyday. You come down here. Everyone’s pretty much following the rules. I walked into a place downtown, half the bar, stools, half the tables. It’s all about your local enforcement. And I understand that different areas, the city feel different political views about what’s going on, but behind the bar, it’s very bartender driven. We take the bar stools away and then by, you know, one 30 in the morning, there’s a few of them have found their way back up to the bar and just kind of deal with your friends and try to keep them, you know, the wear their masks when they’re ordering. So Katie Palona Sera is working, does not tolerate that. She’s only tolerating it because it’s me. I guess that was the, this reminds me a lot of when smoking got banned originally, there was, there was a hard line. There was not any, Oh, I’ll just lay it up. No one on mine. No, it was, it was, there was no middle. It was, it was off. Right. You’re you’re going to go outside and you’re going to smoke with this. It seems like there’s this weird yet? Depends on the bar. I was like, well, yeah. I mean, well, and let’s be real with the smoking thing. It really kind of dependent on where you were. Um, you know, a lot of the bars on the East side, you know, put the tip jar out and just said, Hey, throw some cash in. So if they come in and find us, we got it covered. Oh Jesus. Yeah. I kind of remember those days. It’s still a bar down here. It still exists. So I guess Mikey bringing you in old [inaudible] it’s one of the, uh, you know, I would say top 10 oldest bars in Detroit, at least from, from my standpoint, it’s one of the, one of the mainstays, um, I guess what’s life like behind the bar by you are obviously things are different, but like, Well, and keep in mind, Shalala closed literally right before st. Patrick’s day, which, you know what, you know, that, that kind of like bank rolls your year. Yeah. St. Patrick’s day and opening day. Yeah. That’s huge chunk for us. Um, bartenders are basically, uh, turned into cocktail servers right now. Uh, we’re taking care of all of the tables and stuff. Uh, we, it wasn’t until this weekend we allowed people to come to the bar, but there’s like, we set up four tables, uh, going long ways. So not out to the bar, just like connect to the bar. So people still can’t pass those tables to order. Um, they have to stand at one of those tables and you can congregate four or five people tops there and you have to stay at that table. And or when you’re at any other table, you have to be at those tables. We actually have a really good friends in the park, right guys, the guys that own the parking lot behind us, we’ve been dealing with the Aubrey’s for years. Like ever since, you know, my dad was working downtown and stuff. And so they are, uh, being very nice and generous and letting us finagle and see how, what works for us as far as extending our outside patio into a, the parking lot to therefore put more tables and get better business in. But it’s the same, it’s the same thing, man. People are going to do what people are going to do. And the fact that people have to be told four or five times to put their mask on when they’re walking around, uh, people have to be told that, look, I get it. There’s a DJ here, but the PJ’s here so it can provide different sounds. So we’re not just listening to Pandora, a full song. That could be a good, a good vibe going on. But So we’re not listening to Bob and Dave take over the jukebox. Yeah. But there’s still no dance. Right, right. Worse than both of us combined. True. That’s true. I get very there’s you guys look, man, I’m pretty sure the T and it stands for touched. That’s what it is. It’s it’s a MIT in the D that’s. Yeah. It’s the AMI Am. I Just wrote, Mike wrote our Alma mater Kudos to you, sir. That’s what I do. Um, but yeah, so people are like, you know, doing the dance floor thing and it’s like, the DJ literally stopped and said, Hey, move. There’s like eight feet here. And for some reason, 10 of you want to crowd into it to start dancing. When we don’t have a dance floor, he has stopped it. He put, he has put on Miley Cyrus, uh, to cause that no one dances to Miley Cyrus. Right. Um, Randy does, Randy doesn’t even do. Randy’s like, okay, wrecking ball. Got it. Got go In. The USA is not terrible. Is here. Welcome to episode three 54 beat on Randy. That’s going to be the title of visit. That’s nothing bad for him. I didn’t, I didn’t say off. I said on, I was thinking, but yeah. So people were still coming up to the bar. We had to say, get back six feet. We’re not going to serve you. We’re apparently the problem because we’re enforcing rules. Uh, you know, we have to be like, we’re not the governor. We didn’t set these rules up. We just have to follow them. Uh, you know, I, I commend what, uh, the Shalala has done. You know, even the health departments come in and said, didn’t have to tell us to move anything. They just were like, just put a couple more signs up. You know what I’m saying? So add a little bit more six feet, add a little bit more of this. Um, but it doesn’t matter what we do because the customers are just doing whatever they want to do. And it’s impacting us, which is a problem. Like not the business, but like the staff, like we stay away from. Right. Like I, yes, I’ve had COVID-19 but nobody knows specifically what happens anymore. Right. I could still get it again. There’s reports now saying that the immunities, the antibodies don’t last very long. It lasts a couple months. Well, guess what I had at st. Patrick’s day that’s two or three months, these antibodies aren’t protecting, I’m not guaranteeing, they’re protecting me from anything. I just, just help people out, man. But they don’t care. And because they don’t care, you’ve seen things like in the temple bar, in Detroit, which, I mean, they shouldn’t have been doing that anyway. A Mexican Fiesta out in Dearborn just went back down to, uh, only carry out orders because they’re like, you guys are acting like assholes to our staff. And while we’re the cleanliness of everything is a priority. Now the safety of our staff has to be a top priority. So we’re going to have to say, get away. And Mexican Fiesta is amazing. August, August. I wanted to bring in on that too. Like that’s the one thing I keep hearing is people being bundles and it’s like, yeah, I get it. You’ve been cropped up. Yeah. I get it. You’re excited about being out what it’s like, you should be so excited about coming out, like, okay, what do you need me to do to be out cool. I got it. I’m done. Like when I’ve gone out, I’ve made sure I’ve followed the, you don’t follow whatever the guidelines are, the place you’re going to. It’s not that hard friend Michelle’s still is not comfortable eating indoors or being indoors at a bar at all. We had reservations for eight o’clock on Friday, down at the Monarch to sit outside and she canceled them because it was supposed to rain and she wasn’t gonna eat it inside. I get it. Everyone has their different comfort levels. But then look at what happened in East Lansing. One clown shows up at Harper’s 62 people get sick and now 30 people and girls point all tied to the same spot. The number was 85. Yeah. Cause they all went back to a bonfire afterwards and hung out yet. Yeah. And now it just hit the news that, uh, fifth Avenue and we’re alone, three people that tested positive were in there, you know, on the 19th of June. So any surprised, So, yeah, so here’s my question. And this is actually one of the stories that I shot across for us to yak about, but I haven’t you guys here. Uh, so Imperial, uh, in Ferndale, uh, said they shut down, uh, because they got an anonymous phone call from someone, uh, that said they were in the restaurant a couple of days earlier and they were COVID positive. So like, is that the new, like one star Yelp review slash swatting where like, even if that’s not true, you call a place and say that, and you know, you’re basically shutting them down. Like you are shutting them down and forcing them to go through a deep, clean, and being a major inconvenient pain in the ass That, that joke has already run through all the sports talk radio about how these different teams are going to suddenly try to open up and play sports again. And the anonymous calls it. So and so really tested positive and they’re baking. It is going to shut down basketball or baseball or football, shut down a bar As bartenders. Are you both kicking out people who aren’t complying with rules or, Um, I have not had a problem where someone completely refused or didn’t have a mask with them. Uh, there’s always, someone will walk in off the patio without it. That guy will be like, dude. Oh, okay. And they’ll throw it back on. Uh, and I’ve not had that confrontation that I am dreading. Cause I know what’s coming next. I mean, I’m not gonna lie. I went to that’s by my house and it’s the middle of suburbia, not one person who had one on. Yeah. That’s what I noticed in McComb County, the servers and the staff had them, the customers gave them. No, no. Yeah. We’re the same way. Uh we’ve actually, we have boxes of masks. So if you don’t have a mask, when you come to the bar to come in, we’ll provide you with mat. I mean, if it’s like a group of like 10 people were eventually just be like, no, because obviously you haven’t had a mask this entire time, but we’re not, you know, if one or two people or like a dude’s mask broke while he was walking through the entrance and we gave him another mask, but it’s not so much that people are refusing to comply. It’s it’s like, again, it’s like you’re telling a five-year-old four or five times to do the exact same thing, you know? And, and that’s, and that’s the problem is I sh I’m not telling a four year, five year olds do the same thing, four or five times, I’m telling a 35 year old the same thing to do four or five times innovation. You gotta realize that it’s not just about you and your, this business could be, could take a, hit. The staff could take a hit. I mean, and look, the first weekend I was back, people were assholes and I’m talking about money-wise like, which is crazy to me. But the second and third week that I was back, people were amazing. Right. They shouldn’t have been loaded when they came back, man. Like you would think so. Right. But again, let’s not pretend like everyone’s gotten their unemployment check. So, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s a weird dynamic. I appreciate I’m the same way I was his girlfriend, same thing, same way. I don’t feel comfortable going out that much. Uh, I’ve gone, uh, eaten in downtown Royal Oak and I sat on a patio. Uh, I’ve walked around a couple places, you know, and that’s, that’s about it, man. Like I haven’t even, I went out the first night the bars were, uh, the Shalala was open and I really only went out to look and see what I was walking into on a scouting run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, then a friend was like, Hey, I’m down, down at pappies we’re sitting on the patio, come on out. And I was like, well, if you’re on the petty, you know, and, and, and that’s what it is. There’s a comfort level to everyone. And just because you, uh, your source of information tells you that whatever you’re doing is not necessary, that’s fine. And I’m not saying that you’re wrong for that. What I’m saying is you’re wrong for selling someone or making someone else feel like their source of information is wrong. So they have to follow your way. And I w what’s the worst that can happen. That you, when you wear a mask, do you find out you were right anyway, but you wore masking, made someone else feel comfortable. What’s the best that can happen. You find out you’re wrong and you help protect people. Correct? You were, you were mildly inconvenienced for a review, Right, man. And I’ve said it from the beginning to the end of this thing, when it was announced that in stores, private businesses have a no shirt, no shoes, no service, all of them. Now they’re saying no, no mass, no service. That’s not taken away. Your rights, man, that business has all the right in the world to tell you, you can’t be a Patriot. If you don’t wear a mask, get over it. So many people don’t realize that these are private businesses. They are not mandated to serve you under any circumstances. Like, I don’t know how that slipped by a lot of people. Um, I guess I’ll open up the floor to both of you guys, but I got a curious thing, like, let’s say this whole thing, poops the bed and it shuts down again. Um, how many of these bars can survive this thing? Because I know a lot of them run shoe strings right now. A lot of them are hanging on by the, you know, think other landlords aren’t being dicks type of scenarios. But I mean, if this thing shuts down again for like three months, how many of these restaurants and bars are, or actually going to be able to come back and whether this There’s plenty of ours, I’m going to jump real quick. And they just said, we’re not going to deal with here. Couple of the customers coming from the patio. So they’re ordering right now behind me, but Susie’s bar. They don’t have any staff that’ll work and they just take it off their loans and a ride it out. And I expect to see, I think we’re going to shut down again. I think we’re going to take one more hit for like two weeks. Yes. Yeah. I’m going to say I’m in the same boat. I honestly think that, uh, our governor without playing politics, I think our governor has done well. Perfect. Hell no. Has she done things to play politics and maybe get a VP? Not sure, but that’s her job. My job as a bartender is to work you, to get the best tip out of you, right? Anyone who does their job correctly knows ways to make it so they can make better money for anything else. That’s what you have to do in your job. I know I have to do, I have to tell Karen, she’s a great book, great person, right? Because I know Karen will finally give me 15% finally. Right. But Karen’s a piece of crap, but I can make her feel like she’s amazing. So the bottom line is I feel that they are, the government has, the governor has done well, not perfect. Well, and There was no way, Mikey. There’s no way you were going to ever make everyone happy. Okay? Exactly. This is in Madison. Which way you went. This is the unknown, right? I am not, I can’t be mad at you for doing, taking extremes when you didn’t know what was coming. So my thought process on this is just like August. I think every, I think it’s going to shut down for two weeks, but I’m hoping she does slap on the wrist style. We’re going to pull back bars, any place. That’s just mainly alcohol. We’re going to shut them down for two weeks and keep restaurants at 50% capacity. We’ll see what it looks like. Because I feel if she goes hard as tries to do extreme again, then she might start losing some of her base supporters. So I think she’s gonna take the EAs way. So the season we’re in it’s summertime, this was a little bit easier to pull off when it was still cold out, you know, February, March. I mean, that was doable. If she was a half to try to start to shut it down now in a place like Michigan, like Texas people are hiding inside. Anyways, there’s 110 degrees outside, Florida. This is our outside season. It’s gonna be really tough, especially if she does it statewide and not by zones again. Cause you know, a whole bunch of people are going to be flooding saga top and plugging Trevor city and flooding Mackinaw city and Marquette drink. If she does it, there’s no easy right way to do it. Right. It has to be, you know, state the state region, the region, there are flooding up North. They flood up North as it is. I mean, I’m not even sure about regions Right on 75, try to come a Sunday, six, o’clock go look at 75 coming back home. Yeah. It’s people who live there. They have their houses. They’re not the renters and the hotel people. Cause I know folks that are, they can get a room at saga talk with 24 hours notice right now that’s insane for July and Jimmy Vegas pricing. They’re pretty much given rooms away for a dollar just to get your ass down here. Yeah. But what’s it going to go on to Saugatuck if you’re not on the beach and the bar isn’t open. Yeah, no doubt. Exactly. Well, and that’s, you know, I, I was talking with Fred earlier today, Fred Brown. He shot me like his latest PowerPoint deck and all that stuff. And, and he, he kind of lines up with what you were just saying that, I mean, the reality is like this Harper story is pretty much the tip of the iceberg. We’re going to see a lot of bad news hit over the next two weeks. Um, now here’s, let me, let me ask you a question. I don’t know if you know Dave or if the guys know like how do they know that? Cause it takes like what two weeks to get tested, right. Or to test positive for it. How do they know that, uh, that all emanated from a single bar? Like to me, I read that. How did that, you set a protocol questions, you have to answer For people who test positive, they trace you and everywhere you’ve been and everything you’ve been doing, it’s it’s a thing. Yeah. So like, so, so it was that it was basically one guy who already was sick and wasn’t feeling well. And the day after all this nonsense went and got himself checked out into it. Oh yep. COVID where were you? Um, and then contact Tracy Chino trace back, started taking a look at those people. Yup. And it, you know, and it’s funny, the, the w the one, like really kind of concerning stat that, that Fred throughout, when we react, when we were chatting earlier was of, they did, they just did some like anonymous statistics and 75% of people that went to a hospital or an ER, or an urgent care for non COVID things. Like they went because they fell and broke their arm, or they had a gunshot wound and went to the ER, that kind of stuff, 75% of the people that were checked in tested positive for COVID. Um, and so like, so that’s that hidden asymptomatic population yet again, the reason why you should be wearing your damn mask, even if you, you know, even if you think you feel fine, Right? Yeah. That’s it just put your mask on me, whether everything was right or not. Sorry, just again, same thing I was gonna say earlier, like what you believe or not give a shit about other people, that’s all it is. Who cares? Just be nice. Yeah. I was one of the lucky ones that got to go through the secretary of state. Um, and that was a, yeah, I know. There’s like somewhat outside. They don’t really ask you if you have symptoms, they just ask you what your name is. Like. I was kind of shocked that they would not have like the, the temperature gun. Cause that is not very hard to do. Um, they just really go, what’s your name? Cool. Like you had a mask on, they let you in, and then you left. It was like, it was, it was kind of bizarre. Actually. They didn’t have more precautions in place The problem with the temperature gun. And this is because I think I talked about this on one of their shows either last week or the week before is they’re not very accurate. Um, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s almost kind of like the facial recognition system software, where if you’re white, uh, you, you tend to like, it, it tends to be pretty accurate. Um, but anybody, any people of color, it, it tends to be a lot further. Yeah. I never heard that before. That’s crazy. Well, I mean, it it’s just a thing. Um, and so it’s, you know, it, it, it, it can be, and you know, and the thing, you know, you may be asymptomatic and not have a fever. You might have a fever because you have a cold, you might have a fever, you know, for a number of reasons, not related to COVID. So, I mean, it’s, you know, but it’s a, it’s a PR move more than anything else to at least take that step. All I know is there’s somebody at Amazon right now, wondering why there’s a run on a, do not enter pool. If you have diarrhea signs. Cause we put one at our community pool and it’s caused an absolute uproar. No one realizes that like every water park in America has a don’t enter the water park if you have diarrhea signs. So she put them up at the bar, the questionnaire at city hall every day. And I always checked off, but I had just for fun, you know, the, the thermometers, you shoot the infrared guns. Good to know, you know what the, you know, what the difference is. Right. You know what the differences August the taste, the taste. Yeah. Nice. And that like, like the ones I picked up for the studios, they actually have different settings. Like you can, you can tell it, you’re taking a, um, a skin temp, a zone temp or room temp. Uh, you know, like, so I mean, it’s, they’re decent, but I mean, you know, the, like the more I looked into them, like I said, I mean, it’s, they’re only so accurate and only for so many different scenarios. So You guys know if you guys noticed an uptick, I don’t know if you guys monitor your Yelp pages or whatever. Have you noticed any people leaving like shit reviews? Cause they made us, we’re a mess bar. Like what have you guys noticed an uptick in those? I haven’t even looked. I mean, I’ve, I’ve seen them. I’ve seen people calling them out on Facebook. Like a lot of Facebook, like people like, and people are calling out people that are leaving those reviews. That’s what I’ve seen is, you know, screw you for leaving the, you know, for leaving them a negative review because they said you had to wear a mask and that kind of stuff. Here’s the thing. I’m like, I’m as you know, like, I don’t wanna say noncompliant, but I’m about as is like leave me alone type of person who is government wise. But when I go to the, if you go to the grocery store, I couldn’t imagine if someone told me in their business, like put a mask on and I’ll be like, Oh my God, I’m so sorry. Like that would be my first inclination not be like, screw you. I hate videos. And this just blowing my mind. How people can think like that what’s that August give us a decent human being. Believe it or not. Yeah. No, but like, would you, I couldn’t imagine like, yeah, like getting yelling at anyone in like in, if it’s their house, like, which is, I consider any businesses that are house, you got house rules. Take my shoes off at the door. Sure. Okay. I’ll take my shoes off at the door. Yeah, No, don’t worry about it. You know, like, Oh, through your house, I’m going to have barbecue down the street. FYC. I’ll go out and find, I’ll go have diarrhea in somebody else’s pool. Just don’t have it at whiskey in the jar, man. I had to grow up either. Once it was a worst day of my life. They’re really, really clean and sterile now though. Oh, I bet we’re spending that time at the bar in Monroe you’re ever going to do in Hamtramck is whiskey right now. I was like, yeah, it can’t be any worse than that. Dive bar in Monroe, Bob. It can’t, it can’t Now what’s the percentage. The percentage like, w I know you guys always kept a clean bar, both of you, but like, what’s the percentage now that you have to clean versus what is it? Double, triple what you had to do in the past, as far as wiping things down, it’s a lot more, as far as picking up garbage, significantly less because less crowded. Well, yeah, Most people aren’t throwing their stuff around. Yeah. And it’s the exact same way. Just being cognizant of their surroundings type of things. Right. Instead of wiping down the shelving under the pier bottle, under the liquor bottles and everything a couple of times a week now you’re doing it every shift. But granted, the way they’re working for us is we’re only open Friday and Saturday and they have a, they have a Sasha Friday and a staff for Saturday. So even though that we’re dealing with all of this, we can still get the underemployment because we’re not working. The hours are making the money that we did. So we can still claim the underemployment to get that extra 600 a week. That’s how they’re working it out for us, which I think is amazing. That’s great for you guys. Now, what about a draft beer? You guys just doing plastic cups? Are people shying away from it? Plastic cups. That’s all we offer all plastic plastic. We basically, every day is st. Patrick safer everything plastic. Right? Well, it’s, I mean, and that’s the thing. I mean, like, I guess how is, how is the general tone of the businesses now without the big parties, without the big events, without that kind of stuff going on? Like, is, is it, you know, Hey, we’re all we’re going to just see how this goes and roll with it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there’s nothing else to do. We know we didn’t have our big fundraiser in March. We don’t see the August date for the bag of guy party as viable. We just don’t see one that’s going to work. And you miss you guys, ms. Pouncy day, you guys missed Punchy day was the last big event that I, yeah, that was the last one. Yeah. With your wife, Bob. Yeah, that was, yeah. That was really like the only big thing of 2020 that actually went well. Yeah. Cause you figured out, cause I remember the tigers opening day. I remember tigers opening day paying off people’s bars. I bought places downtown, like back in the day, like talking about that. Yeah. And like, I remember Shalala, I think Mike, you were telling me, well, that one day is kind of the year. Yeah. St Pat’s and opening day, man. They take care of us. I’m wondering what their, if it actually happens, uh, in less than a month, what it’s going to be like, cause obviously they can’t have fans, but that’s not going to stop people from coming down and tailgating like they do. But again, if everything’s still in the restrictive state, what’s, you know what I’m saying? It changes a lot of things. So other than, uh, I mean, other than the obvious where I’m asking you to come in, um, tip, well, um, you know, don’t, uh, don’t, you know, group dance. What, uh, any other recommendations, things that no one’s thought about, you know, tips, tricks. We keep hand sanitizer all over the place, but we do appreciate what people have their own. It’s a visual for kind of everybody to feel a little bit better. I carried some with me everywhere. I’m going. I get it. Um, other than that, I mean, people have been over tipping on my shifts. I’ve been fortunate. Uh, thank you, Dave. Um, I try to make sure I have all my own stuff specifically. So my girlfriend and let me come back over because it shows that I’m being responsible and I need to, and I want to support the bars right here in my neighborhood that are three blocks from my house and only have six people in them, which is easy to feel safe in and easy to control your surroundings. But that’s not what everybody else is doing. You never know. So take care of yourself and just assume the bar isn’t, even though we are Well, that’s the thing like with my neighborhood bar. Yeah. It was all neighbors, but I haven’t, I don’t know what they’ve been doing all spring right at their plate. You know what I mean? Cause like, yeah, it was like a reunion. I, Hey, you know, and then the hardest part was I had to go to a funeral this weekend where everybody’s, everybody’s hugging everyone And that was, it was, you know, I kind of threw all the rules out and we’re kind of holding our breath now going, Oh, you know, I’m sure we all will be okay. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. We’re the same way, man. Uh, just, you know where your mask, when you come in, if you have your own stuff, that’s fine. And that’s great. You know, we really appreciate it. Cause obviously we’re, we’re spending all the money to make sure that we can be open under the guidelines for what we have to deal with, you know? And that’s like, I don’t under, I just wish that people would just come in with a better attitude. Like thank you for being open rather than finally you’re open. I can do what I want here. No that’s going to happen where you’re at. And you’ve got a much more transient non-regular crowd than I do. And it’s a different world and you know what, let me be very honest. It’s 10 30 beyond PM. As soon as 10:30 PM hits until 2:00 AM. You know, that’s when the majority of the crap starts everyone in the earlier Wait, cause everybody’s had a few drinks. They’re a little more, a little loosened up a little more forgetful. A little more. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s, and it sucks, but you know, just don’t make it seem like I’m the bad guy for having to ask you to do what I have to ask you to do, you know, it’s like, everyone’s the drunk girl who wants to take her shoe, their shoes off right now. You dirty bastard. Stop anyone Shoes off anywhere. How about that? I’m not going to stop them. Yeah. I’m sure you wouldn’t. Yeah. Alright. Well, so yeah, there you go. Yeah. Take your shirt. I’ve used it as a mask. Perfect. Um, alright, so, Hey, I guess we’ll let you guys get back to it. So where do we find you when you’re not at whiskey in the, we’ll get a jar. I’m the Hamtramck city clerk underwater buried in absentee ballots right now. Um, but I’m not actually back behind the bar for two weeks. Mike and I are split it up Mikey Smith, who I work with and take the July off. And uh, but I’m here at Hampton whiskey Hamtramck and at city hall. And you need me? Yeah. For what it’s worth. Uh, Michelle just joined the watch party. If you wanted to refer to her as your girlfriend again, to get some brownie points and then Mikey, where do we, where do we find you, Man, if you don’t find me on Saturdays right now, the old shalala.com and you’re a fan of professional wrestling, you can check me on a breaking down the ring podcast, breaking down the ring.com at BDR cast for all of our social media. As you can check us, check me out there every Sunday at 11:00 AM. I haven’t been in a guest in a long time. Like you what’s going on. Hey man, we haven’t had a single person in studio in a long time, either. Good point. I can, I can shoot you the zoom link. If you, anytime you want to join. I mean, I’m not going to play that game. Do you know where to find me? I do. All right. Well cool. Thanks guys. Enjoy the rest of your night. We’re going to hang and bullshit about some other stuff. Hey, thanks for having us guys. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it guys. Do you guys be good? Um, I need to start off with it with the thing that’s that’s ruined my entire day. Oh, good Lord. That I’ve been I’ve literally had to, um, share it with everyone I’ve ever known. It’s um, this video. Oh the, the, the golfer, This was, that was live on PGA TV guy rips a huge three or three wood and then cuts a sheet ripper for about 10 seconds. And then they comment about it. The one guy, and then, then this is the best part. The guy gets on TMZ and all this stuff. He starts making fart jokes, talking about that’s the way to social distance. If you’re going to fart on national TV, like that’s how you own it. Like this guy, like literally everyone today at every meeting I ever like, did you hear about the golf guy that farted? And they’re like, what are you like, literally you gotta be the dumbest person. So like literally I’ve been playing this thing. Then the one guy he’s like, aren’t they supposed to be more silent than that. It’s just a beautiful, and then the guy goes, did you get that? He’s like the other guy go stay over there. And he goes, aren’t those supposed to be more silent? So like the guys are walking down the fairway anyway, commenting on. Anyway. Um, I had to, I had to share that cause that’s been my entire day today. Um, I guess my like the stunning news and information for the day, there’s a coin shortage. I don’t know what’s going on. Like apparently everyone’s been saying, um, the, the self checkout lines at Myra have gone cashless. Um there’s yeah. There’s there’s basically, um, I don’t know. How do you get a coin shortage? Did I, that I saw a couple of posts from like, you know, stores on Facebook that really, I saw one from a seven 11. That was like, Hey, you bring us rolled coins and we’ll give you not only the cash back, but you can get a free Slurpee. Like apparently like they’re like, they’re that desperate to get coins, like, which is weird. The announcement never came out. The banks never came out. Usually like there’s something like that you would think would be prefaced over the next course of the next three months, by the way we are bubble, blah. Um, you know, and they’re calling it a national coin shortage. So it was like, you know, the conspiracy peoples, the tinfoil hats are lightning. Oh goodness. I can’t even imagine. Yeah. Although they want to make us cashless, you know, however, you know, I don’t think like, hang on whatever, right, Dude, I’ve been in favor. At least I have been in favor of abolish the penny since the nineties. Like I just like, I’m all in favor of that. Like that they make no sense to me. Yeah. Um, who carries them? No one cares. Here’s the thing. No one carries them around. No one uses them as tender. They are just, they’re basically little kids banks that sit there for 30 years. Then they cash them out for $14 when they turn 20 Or 21 when they’re looking for beer money. Yeah. Right. But yeah. No, I didn’t, I didn’t realize that was such a thing, but yeah, there were stories about Meyer. I’m going completely cashless. They were, you know, cause he had, they had to, um, they couldn’t dispense coins or like some places were saying like even cashiers are just rounding stuff up or rounding stuff down to make it to the nearest dollar. You see? I always like, you know, when you learned about like cash and coin circulation, it’s like, they always, um, when they go to the bank, they think the old money they shred it, then they put a new money where there’s always like this constant flow. And, but no one ever said like the, like during all this COBIT stuff where the mince closed, like where they still lose production. Well, I guess a, it wouldn’t surprise me if they had to shut the mins down. Uh, just because, I mean like everything else, they had their own issues. Um, but I mean, I guess it might be just a matter of it disrupted the natural supply chain. I mean, just like, you know, grocery stores have a hard time getting ahold of things. If people aren’t coming into the stores and using change and then using, you know, they’re, they’re not, you know, and banks were shut down and not, I mean it, I can see why it’s an issue. It’s just, I guess it’s just something, it’s one of those things I never thought about. Yeah. People aren’t using them. So there aren’t them having them at stores to give back. I mean, you think about it. I mean, you know, like, you know, they weren’t taking returnables for the longest time I wear all those, like Coinstar machine shut down. I, you know, cause I would assume that would be one of the places where they were getting their change in coinage and all that kind of stuff. Oh, I just know they’re in the stores. I can’t tell you the last time I went to one Last time I used one, I got an Amazon gift card. So that was yeah. Cause it’s so charged. Yeah. Oh it’s only change only a charge if you get cash back out of it. So what have you guys been watching this week? I, uh, I caught a pretty sweet movie last night. I was, uh, I never heard of it and I was like shocked. It was, you never heard, you never heard of this one? Well, no, no, no. The movie though, I’m talking about dr. Sleep. Like you, you never saw the ads for it or anything. I never saw a thing. I didn’t know what existed. So I’m watching this movie and the little boys got this, like seventies bolt cut. I’m paying no mind. And he’s talking to this, the black guy that looks like the guy from the shining Hong Kong phooey guy. And then he’s talking to his mom, Shelly Duvall. And I’m like, what? In the blue health shining movie is this like Google it it’s the SQL Bob. Yeah. The book’s been out for awhile. That was the movie. Yeah. I honestly had no idea. This thing existed. I just like, Oh, I read the preview and it didn’t say anything. It said the shine, but it didn’t say anything about the shining site. I thought it was something different. What did you watch it on HBO last night? Oh, you know, um, I thought it was great by the way, they did a great job with it. The shining is, um, one of the weirdest movies in the history of humanity, uh, mr. Kubrick, um, this thing like didn’t explain it kind of explained what all the, what the kids’ premonitions were in the first one. And then I gave a good background to it. I dunno. Um, again, the OB one thing is kind of a said, what did he say? The same line is star Wars. And it threw me off for a half an hour. He’s like something like, Oh, that’s these, aren’t the droids you’re looking for say that it can only mean one thing invasion. He did like a Obi wan Kenobi line in this movie that completely threw me off. Like, I don’t know if they snuck that in there or, or what, but yeah, no great flick. I would highly recommend it. I watched a Padma Lakshmi’s taste the nation. It’s a series on Hulu. I saw it. Yeah. I saw that was there. I added it to my watch list. I haven’t, I haven’t started watching it. Episode is like a different immigrant group and their, um, their impact on food in America. Uh, or they did one with, uh, native American cultures because you know, they’re also cultures, but they’re here and not an immigrant group. So, and that actually, that’s, that’s a funny tie in. So I’ll also on Hulu. I’ve been obsessed with hate die neighbor, um, which is, uh, it’s a stent, there’s two seasons of it. So far, it’s a standup comic from London, uh, who basically goes mostly all around the United States, but he also goes to like London, um, and the Ukraine and a couple other places and hangs out with hate groups, uh, for a week or two and he’s biracial, he’s half white, half black. Uh, and, and, and so like, but it’s funny because as he’s arguing with these white supremacists or, you know, whoever else he’s like, you know, if it weren’t for immigrants, the food here Would really suck. Just so you know, like at some point in time during each episode that comes up. But it’s interesting because like he, like, so he goes to like, he hangs out with like honest to God Nazis. Uh, he hangs out with white supremacists. He hangs out with, uh, the EDL in London, which is trying to kick all of the Muslims out of England. Um, he hangs out with, uh, as the Azov folks in Ukraine, um, he hangs out with, uh, the black Israelites, uh, that are like way, way, way black supremacists. Um, it’s I mean, and it’s, it’s just a, it’s fascinating that there are that many different hate groups out there that he, and he goes all over. And so like, like in one episode he starts hanging out with this one, um, uh, what do they call a national socialist it’s it’s not Nazi their, their national socialism. Um, and he hangs out with this one guy in Pennsylvania, um, who then says, Hey, but I can arrange an invite for you to this thing down in, uh, Kentucky or Mississippi. And so he goes down and so like the guy in Pennsylvania, and it sounds stupid. Like he, like, he just hates Jews. Like he Only hates Jewish people and he’s not really overt about it. Um, he, he, he just hates Jewish people, but then he refers him down to these guys down in Mississippi and they’re straight up Nazis. Like it’s, it’s a swastika burning thing that they call the lightning. Uh it’s, you know, they’re all wearing armbands with sweat, like, and it’s like, it, it’s just, it’s insane and intense and you don’t do it. It’s very real. It’s, it’s very, very, um, it is. And like I said, it’s, it’s interesting because there are some people that he makes some headway with and there are some people cause like, and, and so the last, like couple minutes of every episode is him sitting down with them after and going, okay, look, this is why I think you’re full of shit. Um, or, you know, here’s where, you know, here’s why I think, you know, whatever. Uh, and it’s, it’s interesting, like, cause I guess, you know, he, you know, the guys in Mississippi, he was just like, you guys are just straight up assholes. Like it is what it is. And they’re like, and he’s sitting in the car and he’s talking with this guy and that the original guy back in Pennsylvania and, and they, and they had actually gotten to be like kind of friends. And the guy had told him that he like that like the, the lady he was with that had all of his little like socialists spawn with, um, was his second wife and his first wife was Indian and they had two kids. And so he starts like, and so the, the comics starts making, you know, starts questioning him on well, don’t you realize that you’re basically espousing a group that hates your children because they’re, and he was and like, and that like really, like, it’s almost like the first time the guy ever heard that before or thought of that before. Um, and so, I mean, it’s, like I said, it’s, it’s Testing to see It’s American history, X the series, basically. But like, but like I said, you know, but some of the international flavor is really interesting. Like the, I just watched one where he to, um, he went to pride in Israel, uh, but hung out with, uh, the guy who is the most like, like basically leads a little terrorist group against gay people, um, in Israel. Uh, and, and, and it’s funny because like he bounces back and forth, like, so we would hang out with that guy for awhile. And like at one point he’s hanging with them at the end, cause like, he goes with them, like when they go to do their demonstrations and that kind of stuff. Um, and then like, like he does like the cutaway to the camera and he’s like, look, I know I’m doing this for like the show and everything. Um, and he’s like, Hey, thanks Mike. Cause it’s a, it’s a vice series. He’s like, Hey, thanks, vice we’re paying for the trip and everything. Um, but I’m going to go hang with the pride crew cause they’re having a lot more fun and then like the camera crew would follow with them for awhile and he would, and so that’s the thing, like he gets there, he it’s like the, you know, the victims or the targets view on things as well. And it’s just, it’s, it’s fascinating. Like it really is just an interesting show to get, to see that mindset and see that there are so many different people out there with so many different kinds of hatred in their heart, The old, uh, the old standup comedy thing, because those people, but you should have sit in their basements until the internet was created and they found the others and then they made groups, you know, they used to just sit in their basements and just rocking back and forth. Yep. I hate whatever. Now They found others now they found each other and, and they’ve, they’ve they? Yeah. They’ve borked. Um, and they procreate. Yeah. So yeah. So that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s been my, my newest obsession. Um, yeah. I’ve been watching the hell out of that just because it is, it is. I mean, it’s, to me that, like, that kind of stuff is just utterly fascinating to see the, the rationalizations and like, especially like the guys in England, the EDL, like, like th the one guy he followed around just calls everyone patties. Cause it like, it’s like, I guess that’s the derogatory term, like, cause, cause they’re not all from Pakistan, but if you like, it’s just, you know, Paki, like that’s, that’s, that’s the word for them. Um, and you know, making this guy and like at the end of the episode, when he does his little like, okay, here’s what I really think. Like the guy tried to fight him. Like it’s like so apparent, like the vast majority of the EDL are like their soccer hooligans. Um, and, and so like this guy was like taking a shirt off, trying to get through the producers, Adam, the cops were like, so, I mean, it’s, it’s just it’s I mean, it is, but it is. I, like I said, I highly recommend it. It’s called a hate, my neighbor. Um, it’s it’s just an it’s it’s an educational watch if nothing else, By the way, have you seen that? Well, how the internet is going crazy today? Um, from it’s it’s apolitical, but the, with the protest in st. Louis that went through the rich neighborhood. Oh, Karen and Ken. Yeah. Karen and Ken. Yeah. The funny thing is it doesn’t matter. Like I follow pretty much every political group, libertarian, Republican Democrat, and everyone is like, just literally destroying, like, this is like the, one of the, one of the funniest, absolute things. It’s like, there’s, there’s an old expression that says the internet has one star every day. Your goal is to not be that person Was all the concern, all this stuff that I was watching, like from the rights or like the libertarian point, it was like, yeah, you kind of have a right to defend your property, but your brandishing and you have no trigger discipline. You’re an asshole. So it’s like, and then the left is like yours, Stupid. Like, yeah. You’re, you’re, you’re you you’re brandishing weapons that people that are just walking by your house, they’re not even, they wasn’t no favors with anyone like, Oh, in the end, the best part is apparently they’re both lawyers, um, and have their own firm. And so their Facebook page just got destroyed to the point where they turned off reviews and recommendations. And so people just dove in on whatever and started commenting on whatever posts that they had. And it’s just, it is, did I, like I had tears streaming down my face while I was reading some of this crap. Cause did like the internet, the internet takes no prisoners. It’s it’s just, it’s amazing. The means came out immediately. Like I’m talking like good meme. Oh yeah. Like dude, like full Full-blown movie posters with those two. And it was, it was just, it’s outstanding. The Halloween costumes steal this look, it’s like Brooks brothers, cotton performance polo, $89, 50 cents Soho fit, chinos, oatmeal color, $128. I do. 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They were there on the evening of June 19th. Is Remy still bartending there? No, no. He’s been gone from there for a while. So that’s what? 10 days ago. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you guys think about the, um, do you guys think the dream cruise is actually going to be canceled? Well, I think so all of that, none of the public events will happen. Like that’s that’s for damn sure. Um, and, and my like, dude, you can’t stop people from getting in their car and going and driving like you can’t. Um, but you can, you can stop all of the crowds and you can stop. You can stop, you can stop all of the parking lot hangout, stuff like that, you know, but as far as the cruise itself will likely still happen, but none of the other stuff will. Yeah. What I would have read, not saying I’d rather have that announcement. I’m saying like biker is like, Hey, listen, if you’re going to do the cruise, stay in your car, do not park, do not congregate. You know what I mean? At least set up. Maybe we’re past all that with setting up guidelines cause people aren’t gonna effing follow them. Anyway. You know, I would have that saying, instead of just saying it’s outright canceled, just saying, Hey, the official event, isn’t going to be what it is. Um, if you guys want to take your, you know, if you want to take a lap and show up your cars, please, you know, I dunno, Here’s the issue with that? Like isn’t like there, like I would assume there is a, an organization or several organizations that are behind that. And so if it moved forward, officially there would be liability. And Does it not own it? The North American auto, I don’t, I don’t care who owns it, who, whoever owns it, there would be an enormous liability issue if that were to go forward. And it came out that that was a hot spot. And you know, there was, you know, a super spreader event. Um, I’m, I’m sure, you know, there’ll be lawsuits out the wazoo, uh, cause this is America. It’s what we do. Yeah. By the way, speaking of America, America’s all about dumb arguments. I want you guys to settle something for me, we’ve all had the argument is hotdog. A sandwich is tofu food. Um, but this one, this one happened this week. Tofu is not food. Right? Exactly. Um, this one happened this weekend, so we’re at the, you know, they open up the neighborhood pool and one of the neighbors, No, Bob, no, you should not go in the pool with diarrhea. Was that, was that okay? Was that okay? I got diarrhea. So when I go swimming now, that was not very well. The argument was, um, so I ordered a pizza places delivered to the pool that been there long enough where they kind of know us address and say the pool. Um, basically, so then I order a deep dish around or deep dish with me around with veggies and cheese bread. Right. Okay. And the one kid doesn’t want to eat. He’s like, I just want a pizza with no sauce. And I go cheese bread. I go to that’s the first thing I said, I go, I got cheese bread. He goes, no, it’s good. It doesn’t, it’s not the same. And I go bread. Jeez, no sauce. And he goes, well, they got spices on it. And I go open it up. I go, I don’t see any spices Skippy. And he goes, there’s Parmesan on it. I’m like, bro, what do you think they put on pizza? It’s like, I’m sitting here and he goes, Hey. And then everyone starts piling on me going. He likes what he likes. Let them be. I’m like, no, no, somebody, somebody needs to teach This kid. Cause obviously his parents are failing him. Somebody has to step in. I was in my house. It would be like, fine donate. I give a shit like, go get this, go get the salami out of there, out of the drawer, if you want to eat tonight. Um, but then someone else brought it up. They go, Hey, he has a meeting. I go, no, he wants pizza without the sauce. And they go, yeah, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, all this time. I go, what am I? What have I been missing? Um, but anyway, that was the, uh, the dumb argument. And uh, you know, then the other dumb argument is okay, like last week we talked about, um, you know, anti-Obama and uncle Ben and they’re kind of, you know, at what point, like, is it stop becoming admirable and stop and start being ridiculous because right now we’re hearing, they’re starting. It’s starting to, I don’t, maybe you, you tell me if, uh, see, I didn’t know who voiced Cleveland on family guy, but apparently he’s white and he stepped down. I’m saying he didn’t want to voice. You know? So then all of a sudden the internet goes, The girl that the girl that voices, uh, Missy on, uh, on big mouth has stepped down now. Oh my really? But then like, you know, then all of a sudden, now everyone starts piling on being okay, the Simpsons are yellow and Seth McFarland voices, a dog is going to come out to make him step down. Right. Yeah. Is, is Joe on family guy only going to be able to be voiced by a paraplegic now? Well, no. And here, and here’s my thing like, and this is why, like, I kind of understood the blow back against Scarlet Johansson, um, over ghost in the machine. Cause that was, you know, an Asian character. She is not an Asian actress. Like, okay, fine. You know, but like we’re not talking about like Scarlet Johanson playing like Harriet Tubman in the movie. Like we’re talking about voice actors here. And to me, especially like, so an actor’s job at the end of the day is to make you not remember who they are because they were supposed to be playing a character that is even more true in my head when it comes to voice actors, because you don’t see them, you don’t know who they are. And to me, like when, cause, and I started having this conversation yesterday with a few people, then I just had to stop. Um, but like, so to me, if you’re saying that a person of color must be voiced by that person of color, that is almost taking a step that says, okay, well, black people only like black people sound a certain way. Asian people sound a certain way, you know? And, and so is isn’t that right? So like, I, I don’t, I really don’t know that I agree with this one at all. And, and, and, and while the blow back about that was happening, there was the other flare up, uh, that I started getting into with people about, uh, with last night, there was an incident with protesters down in DC, down in Detroit, um, where they were leaving a protest and a cop car with its lights and sirens on, uh, people basically swarmed around the cop car. Uh, apparently their back window was broken and the cop just drove the SUV through the people. Um, and, and people were jumping up on, they were not, they did not get hit and thrown up on the hood. They jumped up on the hood of the car. Uh, and so like, and I was like, okay, look like unpopular opinion. But here’s where I started having a problem with protests and protesters. Because at that point you are not peacefully protesting. You are not, you know, you’re not, you’re not doing anything. You are, you are a interfering with traffic, be interfering with a police vehicle with its lights and sirens on that for all, you know, is trying to get to a gunshot victim or a far more serious set of circumstances, um, than dealing with you walking down the street, trying to get back to your cars. Cause I believe that’s all it was at that point. Um, and, and that’s like, that’s how you get a black eye on, on your entire movement is by trying to pull shit like that. And so, you know, kind of like this, like I do. So kind of the same thing. I, I think that, I think the voice acting thing is going a little bit too far. And I think like that is like, cause we were like, Oh, this is outrageous that this happened. I’m like, no, you, they, they were trying to start shit. And they got shit that like, that they were Then the media didn’t do any favors by seeing the cop car plowed through them. Cause I watched it from eight different angles. Yeah. And that car stopped three times then all of a sudden then when they piled on the hood back window goes out, then the gas hit like plowing through is plowing through like you’ve seen truck drivers that yeah. Yeah. That’s, that’s legit. It happened to people. Right. And so, yeah, like I, Here’s the thing, like not to jump around a little bit, but it’s the same token, like Bart Simpson has been voiced by a woman for what? 30 years. Yeah. However long that show’s been on. Yeah. Since I’ve been 13, so yeah, probably close to 30 years. Um, but I don’t think anyone’s ever complained. Like, you know, like, I don’t know, there’s Darth Vader. Yeah. Darth Vader, white guy, white guy inside it voiced by a black guy. Well, and it’s, you know, and it’s one of those things where like, and like, and I understand like one of the sentiments that’s out there is, well, Hey, they’re trying to basically step away from this role to free up a spot for a person of color that, that might then get that job. Okay. But who’s to say that that person of color is the best person for that job. Like what, like, so like now I look at, so now the family now family guy is going to change and, and Cleveland’s voice is going to be different. Now they did that a while ago. Um, now, you know, big mouth, which is just starting to really gain traction. One of the main characters is going to change. Um, and yeah, I just, I, I mean, recasting, isn’t an issue though. Like they replaced, you know, Lacy Shabbir well, yeah. I mean, so like Lacey Shavera was the voice of Meg, the first season of family guy. Um, and then, y